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Разговор касается причин встречи президента и дат: упоминали 29-го и 26-го/27-го. Говорят, что сначала должна была быть встреча делегации: они готовили рамочное соглашение, затем — встреча президента, потому что подготовка документов, меморандум и сигнал партнёрам. Затем открылась Буча, и президент заявил: «Я вообще выхожу из переговоров». После возвращения из Стамбула Борис Джонсон в Киев и сказал: «мы вообще не будем с ними ничего подписывать, и давайте будем просто воевать.» The discussion covers why a meeting with the president was planned and dates (29th, with references to 26th/27th). It states that a delegation meeting should come first to draft a framework agreement, with documents, a memorandum, and partner signals prepared in advance, before the president’s meeting. Bucha opened, and the president said, "I am out of negotiations." After returning from Istanbul, Boris Johnson arrived in Kyiv and said, "we won't sign anything with them, and let's just fight."

Собеседники спорят о Буче: один говорит, что это «хорошо спланированная акция…», чтобы показать агрессивность, кровожадность, убийцы россияне; другая сторона отвечает, что «ничего подобного там не было» и знает «номера автомобилей» организаторов БУДЖ, спрашивая, «почему это всё замяли на Западе?» Разговор переходит к телам: «я своими глазами видел», «на войне… тела» — один настаивает, другой сомневается. Путин якобы говорил, что «вся Буча это фейк», но оппоненты утверждают, что их «спецслужбы» обращали внимание Запада, однако «вы замылили их». Interlocutors discuss Bucha: one says it was a 'well-planned operation to show aggression, bloodlust, murderers'—the other counters that 'nothing like that happened there,' claiming to know 'car numbers' of the organizers of BUDZH and asking why it was hushed in the West. Bodies: 'I saw with my own eyes.' Putin allegedly said that 'all of Bucha is a fake,' while others say their 'intelligence services' drew the West's attention, and that 'you concealed them.'

С тех пор, когда был этот пропагандистский эффект реализован, никто об этой бузе не вспоминает, кроме нас. Я еще раз обращаюсь в присутствии генерального секретаря и уважаемых министров: пожалуйста, добейтесь от украинских властей, чтобы они сделали элементарный шаг опубликовали имена тех людей, чьи трупы были показаны в городе Бучи. Я об этом прошу уже не один месяц никто не слышит, никто не хочет реагировать. Since the propaganda effect was implemented, no one remembers this fuss except for us. I address you again, in the presence of the Secretary-General and honorable ministers: please ensure from the Ukrainian authorities that they take the elementary step of publishing the names of the people whose bodies were shown in the city of Bucha. I have been asking about this for more than a month; no one hears, no one wants to respond.

Speaker 1 claims Russia is engaging in disinformation campaigns and planning a false flag operation in Eastern Ukraine using pre-positioned operatives. This is based on declassified U.S. intelligence information. Speaker 0 asks for evidence to support these claims, comparing the situation to "crisis actors" and "Alex Jones territory." Speaker 0 questions where the declassified information is, stating that Speaker 1 has only made allegations without proof. Speaker 1 says the information is declassified and being made public to deter Russia or, failing that, to expose their fabrication of a pretext for action. Speaker 1 states that making the information public protects sensitive sources and methods. Speaker 0 asks what evidence suggests Russia is planning this, and Speaker 1 responds that the U.S. is confident in its intelligence. Speaker 1 alludes to the U.S. having detailed information but will not spell out what is in their possession. Speaker 1 says Russia has positioned forces and undertaken preparations for a potential invasion.

В начале апреля украинская армия вошла в Бучу, сопровождаемая бойцом Азова. По рассказчику, они прибыли без паспортного контроля благодаря этому агенту. Она заметила трупы в центре города и увидела, как из небольших машин достают другие трупы, которых военные и гражданские раскладывают рядом на дороге. Журналисты ждут, пока трупы разложат, и после этого фотографируют. Автор считает, что это постановка ради наиболее впечатляющих кадров. In the start of April, the Ukrainian army entered Bucha, accompanied by a fighter from Azov. The narrator says they arrived without passport checks thanks to this agent. She noticed corpses in the city center and saw how other corpses were pulled from small cars, laid next to those already on the road by soldiers and civilians. Journalists waited until the bodies were laid out, and after that photographed. The author believes this was a staging to produce the most impressive photographs.

Speaker 0 accuses someone of making unprovoked actions and manipulating information to make it seem that way. Speaker 1 reports that CNN cannot confirm the claim of babies being beheaded, but mentions the claim of Israeli children being kidnapped and kept in cages. They reveal that the original video was published before the Hamas attack. Speaker 0 claims that the manipulators will play the victim and use pictures from the oppressed to support their cause. They also mention that the truth will always be clear for those who are open-minded.

In this video, the speakers discuss the situation in Mariupol, Ukraine. The first speaker claims that there is evidence of a fascist regime in Mariupol and mentions witnessing people being shot. The second speaker interrupts and accuses the first speaker of lying, stating that criminals attacked the local government and that the Ukrainian army is protecting the city. The second speaker also accuses the first speaker of spreading propaganda. The video ends with the second speaker requesting the Ministry of Justice to consider banning the Communist Party in Ukraine based on evidence of their alleged terrorist activities.

- «Почему встреча президента? Потому что в будущем.» - «27-го была встреча или 26-го же была? 29-го. 29-го, да.» - «Я сейчас уже не помню. Обуча это второе число, второе или третье.» - «Так сначала должна была быть встреча делегации. Они готовили рамочное соглашение, после этого должна была встреча президента. Потому что всегда подготовка документов, меморандум, сигнал партнерам, все остальное, и потом на встрече президента.» - «Открылась Буча. Открылась Буча, и президент сказал: Я вообще выхожу из переговоров.» - «Когда мы вернулись из Стамбула, приехал Борис Джонсон в Киев и сказал, что мы вообще не будем с ними ничего подписывать, и давайте будем просто воевать.» - «Why the president's meeting? Because in the future.» - «Was the meeting on the 27th or the 26th? 29th. 29th, yes.» - «I don't remember now. Obucha this is the second date, the second or the third.» - «So first there was supposed to be a delegation meeting. They were preparing a framework agreement, after that there should have been a meeting with the president. Because there is always preparation of documents, a memorandum, a signal to partners, everything else, and then at the presidential meeting.» - «Bucha opened. Bucha opened, and the president said: I am withdrawing from negotiations.» - «When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we won't sign anything with them at all, and let's just fight.»

"Почему встреча президента? Потому что в будущем." "Так сначала должна была быть встреча делегации. Они готовили рамочное соглашение, после этого должна была быть встреча президента." "Открылась Буча. Открылась Буча, и президент сказал: Я вообще выхожу из переговоров." "Когда мы вернулись из Стамбула, приехал Борис Джонсон в Киев и сказал, что мы вообще не будем с ними ничего подписывать, и давайте будем просто воевать." Why the president's meeting? Because of the future. Thus first there should have been a delegation meeting. They were preparing a framework agreement, after which there should have been a meeting with the President. Bucha opened. Bucha opened, and the president said: I am quitting the negotiations. When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them, and let's just fight.

The speaker questions the validity of claims regarding war crimes in Bucha, Ukraine. They highlight the lack of evidence and motive behind the alleged killings, pointing out inconsistencies in the narrative. The speaker questions why the victims were scattered along a road if a massacre had occurred, casting doubt on the accusations against the Russians.

It has already been more than three years since staging of the alleged mass killing in Bucha, which the speaker says Kyiv regime and its Western curators "hastily cobbled together this implausible story." They claim it was "criminal disinformation" about Moscow, and that Russian investigative authorities opened a criminal case to clarify what happened. They say they appealed to the UN secretariat and High Commissioner Volker Türk; in September 2024, via the Russian mission in New York, a request was delivered for information, but the UN allegedly tried to let the appeal fade away. They quote UN officials saying they understood that what Kyiv and West insisted happened did not occur, yet offered no exposure. They accuse the UN of evading cooperation and demand publication of the appeal as UN documents, calling for a thorough Bucha investigation and justice, and alleging Kyiv left negotiations after Boris Johnson promised them influence.

Докладчик заявляет, что «С тех пор, когда был этот пропагандистский эффект реализован, никто об этой бузе не вспоминает, кроме нас.» Он обращается в присутствии генерального секретаря и уважаемых министров: «пожалуйста, добейтесь от украинских властей, чтобы они сделали элементарный шаг опубликовали имена тех людей, чьи трупы были показаны в городе Бучи.» Он добавляет: «Я об этом прошу уже не один месяц никто не слышит, никто не хочет реагировать.» The speaker states that 'Since the propaganda effect was implemented, no one besides us remembers this.' He speaks in the presence of the Secretary-General and respected ministers: 'please, obtain from the Ukrainian authorities that they take the elementary step of publishing the names of those people, whose bodies were shown in the city of Bucha.' He adds: 'I have been asking about this for more than a month, no one hears, no one wants to respond.'

Запись разговора между украинскими военнослужащими и волонтёрами касается Бучи и Ирпеня, когда мировое сообщество считало, что десятки жителей расстреляны российскими солдатами. Авторы утверждают, что кровь граждан была нужна, что можно было эвакуировать регионы раньше, но решили иначе ради «крови»; мировой фактор якобы требовал такого курса. Они ссылаются на высказывание BBC о шоке от гибели европейцев с голубыми глазами и спорят о влиянии западной арены. Упоминаются «золотой миллиард» и дневник Колумба как аргументы, а также убийство Дарьи Дугиной, Владлена Татарского и ранен Захар Прилепин. Говорят: «мы убивали русских и будем продолжать убивать русских в любой точке мира до полной победы Украины». Цитируют Михаила Подоляку к Жозепу Боррелю: прекращение оружия приведёт к эскалации войны и терроризма в Европе. Украинская хунта предупреждает Европу. The recording of a chat between Ukrainian military personnel and volunteers concerns Bucha and Irpin, when the world believed dozens of residents were shot by Russian soldiers. The speakers claim civilian blood was needed, that regions could have been evacuated earlier, but a different course was chosen for “blood”; they say the world arena allegedly demanded such action. They reference a BBC statement about the shock of European deaths with blue eyes and discuss the influence of the Western arena. They mention the “golden billion” and Columbus’s diary as arguments, and the killings of Darya Dugina, Vladlen Tatarsky, and the wounding of Zakhar Prilepin. They say: “we killed Russians and will continue to kill Russians anywhere in the world until Ukraine’s victory.” They quote Mikhail Podolyak to Josep Borrell: stopping weapons will lead to escalation of war and terrorism in Europe. The Ukrainian junta warns Europe.

С тех пор, когда был этот пропагандистский эффект реализован, никто об этой бузе не вспоминает, кроме нас. Я еще раз обращаюсь в присутствии генерального секретаря и уважаемых министров: "пожалуйста, добейтесь от украинских властей, чтобы они сделали элементарный шаг опубликовали имена тех людей, чьи трупы были показаны в городе Бучи". Я об этом прошу уже не один месяц, никто не слышит, никто не хочет реагировать. Since the moment when that propaganda effect was realized, no one remembers this Bucha affair except us. I again address, in the presence of the Secretary-General and respected ministers: "please ensure from the Ukrainian authorities that they make the elementary step to publish the names of those people, whose bodies were shown in the city of Bucha." I have been pleading about this for more than a month; no one hears, no one wants to react.

Speaker 1 questions Speaker 0's claim that awareness of Yagoda is Western propaganda, arguing that almost no one in the West has heard of him. Speaker 1 states that Yagoda was a genocidal maniac responsible for millions of deaths in gulags. Speaker 0 denies knowing who Yagoda is. Speaker 1 expresses disbelief that Speaker 0 is unfamiliar with Yagoda while simultaneously claiming expertise on the topic and calling it Western propaganda. Speaker 1 mutes Speaker 0 for "denying the mass murder." Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of cowardice for muting him. Speaker 0 then asks about numbers.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

The mayor of Bucha initially reported the city was free from Russian troops without mentioning any tragedies. A city council deputy later urged residents to stay indoors during a military sweep, still not mentioning any atrocities. Days later, she mentioned bodies in an interview. The Ukrainian National Police released a video of a sweep in Bucha without mentioning bodies. Reports of bodies only surfaced when the Ukrainian military and media arrived, suggesting a coordinated effort to create a dramatic narrative. Translation: The mayor and city council deputy of Bucha did not mention atrocities initially, but later reports of bodies emerged coinciding with the arrival of the Ukrainian military and media.

Speaker 0 states that someone is killing people and something happened to a guy, which they dislike. Speaker 1 asks Speaker 0 about a report that a Russian commander said Putin was almost caught in a drone attack from Ukraine. Speaker 0 responds that they haven't heard about the drone attack report, but it could be a reason for the killing.

По трагедии в Буче прошло полгода. «мы безуспешно пытаемся разобраться, что же там произошло» и «для начала хотим получить список фамилий тех людей, чьи тела были показаны на весь мир». Я сообщил, что «мне никто не может этот ответ дать» и мы «обращались в самые разные структуры». Поэтому я «попросил уважаемого Антонио Гутероша в присутствии всех членов Совета Безопасности, других членов ООН, в микрофон попросил употребить свои возможности, свой авторитет, чтобы сделать, по-моему, не очень сложную вещь получить список фамилий тех лиц, чьи тела были показаны в Буче». Мы «до сих пор ничего не имеем», и «нет объяснений по целому ряду других вопросов, начиная с отравления Скрипалей»; «никаких документов не предъявляют» по Skripal, «отравления Навального тоже Германии говорит, не дадим мы вам анализы посмотреть», а «Германия нам запрещает» по ОКХ. «А почему?» «Вот это интересный вопрос.» Bucha tragedy is discussing the Bucha tragedy; six months have passed. "we are unsuccessfully trying to understand what happened there" and "for the start we want to obtain the list of surnames of those people whose bodies were shown to the whole world." I stated that "nobody can give me this answer" and we "have approached a variety of structures." Therefore I "asked the respected Antonio Guterres in the presence of all Security Council members, other UN members, to use his capabilities, his authority, to do, in my view, not a very difficult thing: obtain the list of surnames of those individuals whose bodies were shown in Bucha." We "so far have nothing," and "no explanations on a whole range of other questions, starting with the poisoning of Skripal"; "no documents are presented" concerning Skripal, "the poisoning of Navalny also Germany says, we will not let you look at the analyses," and "Germany forbids us" on OPCW. "Why?" "Here's an interesting question."

Speaker 0 asks who blew up Nord Stream, to which Speaker 1 jokingly replies that "we" did, implicating Speaker 0. Speaker 0 denies involvement and questions if there is evidence that NATO or the CIA did it. Speaker 1 avoids providing details but suggests looking for someone with an interest in such cases. Speaker 0 expresses confusion over the magnitude of the incident and suggests that if Speaker 1 had evidence, they should present it to win a propaganda victory. Speaker 1 claims it is difficult to defeat the United States in propaganda because they control global media, making it costly to get involved. They believe shining a spotlight on their sources of information won't yield results.

Speaker 1 claims to have heard "behind the scenes" that war is coming and NATO wants to send 250,000 troops into Ukraine. Speaker 1 states that Ukraine is losing the war, with the death toll approaching 1.5 million, and that Ukraine has "flatlined" according to computer analysis. Speaker 1 believes the West is gearing up for war and deliberately crossing Putin's red lines in order to provoke him into attacking NATO, so they can claim he is the aggressor.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

Speaker 1 stated he doesn't know what Tucker Carlson is saying about him being complicit in the war, and that Carlson should get a television network to say it so people will listen. Speaker 0 then asked if Speaker 1 had spoken to Zelensky before the bylaws.

В начале апреля украинская армия вошла в Бучу; нас сопровождал боец Азова, и без паспортов мы попали в город. В центре лежали трупы; из небольших машин доставали другие трупы — военные и гражданские — и раскладывали их рядом на дорогах. Журналисты ждали, пока разложат трупы, и фотографировались; это выглядело постановкой. Нас повезли в ангар, где потребовали распределить медикаменты: часть — для батальона Азов, часть — в госпиталь. Другая машина привезла русских военнопленных; из трёх машин высадились военнопленные. Некоторые русские военнопленные были поставлены на колени с завязанными руками; мы услышали выстрелы — азовцы стреляли вниз по военным. Украинские военные потребовали нас закрыть машину и ехать. Я была на пассажирском сиденье, водитель — женщина-волонтер; они закричали: "Офицер! Офицер!", и русский военнопленный получил пулю в голову. Остальные неизвестны; мы уехали, волонтёр проплакала четыре часа. At the start of April, the Ukrainian army entered Bucha; we were accompanied by a member of the Azov Battalion, and without passports we got into the city. In the center lay corpses; from small cars they brought out other corpses — soldiers and civilians — and laid them alongside on the roads. Journalists waited until the corpses were laid out and photographed; it looked like a staging. We were taken to a hangar where we were asked to distribute medications: some for the Azov Battalion, some to the hospital. Another car brought Russian prisoners of war; from three cars the POWs disembarked. Some of the Russian POWs were placed on their knees with hands tied; we heard shots — Azov fighters were firing downward at the soldiers. Ukrainian soldiers asked us to close the car and drive away. I was in the passenger seat, the driver was a female volunteer; they shouted: "Officer! Officer!", and a Russian prisoner received a bullet to the head. The rest is unknown; we drove off, the volunteer cried for four hours.