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Собеседники спорят о Буче: один говорит, что это «хорошо спланированная акция…», чтобы показать агрессивность, кровожадность, убийцы россияне; другая сторона отвечает, что «ничего подобного там не было» и знает «номера автомобилей» организаторов БУДЖ, спрашивая, «почему это всё замяли на Западе?» Разговор переходит к телам: «я своими глазами видел», «на войне… тела» — один настаивает, другой сомневается. Путин якобы говорил, что «вся Буча это фейк», но оппоненты утверждают, что их «спецслужбы» обращали внимание Запада, однако «вы замылили их». Interlocutors discuss Bucha: one says it was a 'well-planned operation to show aggression, bloodlust, murderers'—the other counters that 'nothing like that happened there,' claiming to know 'car numbers' of the organizers of BUDZH and asking why it was hushed in the West. Bodies: 'I saw with my own eyes.' Putin allegedly said that 'all of Bucha is a fake,' while others say their 'intelligence services' drew the West's attention, and that 'you concealed them.'

Добрый день. И это о том, что я retaken by Ukrainian Authoritys, and the mayer of bucha, was on tv. 2days later. BBC, Broadcasting Team, Show the images of Central Street of the буча with bodys, doesens of bodys, lank in some interesting godder, и я Several Times, we an I vos in New York for the General Assembly Sessions, I was meeting with the media, including NBC correspondance. And I said: this butcha incident was used и я пользуюсь. Good afternoon. This is about that I retaken by Ukrainian Authoritys, and the mayor of bucha was on tv. 2days later. BBC, Broadcasting Team, Show the images of Central Street of the буча with bodys, doesens of bodys, lank in some interesting godder. и я Several Times, we an I vos in New York for the General Assembly Sessions, I was meeting with the media, including NBC correspondance. And I said: this butcha incident was used и я пользуюсь.

Russian occupiers are committing genocide in Ukraine, endangering the lives of millions. We urgently seek global support to save innocent lives, including women, men, children, families, and entire communities. The destruction caused by Russia in cities like Mariupol, Volnabakh, Bakhmut, and others cannot be ignored. We demand justice for these atrocities.

С тех пор, когда был этот пропагандистский эффект реализован, никто об этой бузе не вспоминает, кроме нас. Я еще раз обращаюсь в присутствии генерального секретаря и уважаемых министров: пожалуйста, добейтесь от украинских властей, чтобы они сделали элементарный шаг опубликовали имена тех людей, чьи трупы были показаны в городе Бучи. Я об этом прошу уже не один месяц никто не слышит, никто не хочет реагировать. Since the propaganda effect was implemented, no one remembers this fuss except for us. I address you again, in the presence of the Secretary-General and honorable ministers: please ensure from the Ukrainian authorities that they take the elementary step of publishing the names of the people whose bodies were shown in the city of Bucha. I have been asking about this for more than a month; no one hears, no one wants to respond.

В начале апреля украинская армия вошла в Бучу, сопровождаемая бойцом Азова. По рассказчику, они прибыли без паспортного контроля благодаря этому агенту. Она заметила трупы в центре города и увидела, как из небольших машин достают другие трупы, которых военные и гражданские раскладывают рядом на дороге. Журналисты ждут, пока трупы разложат, и после этого фотографируют. Автор считает, что это постановка ради наиболее впечатляющих кадров. In the start of April, the Ukrainian army entered Bucha, accompanied by a fighter from Azov. The narrator says they arrived without passport checks thanks to this agent. She noticed corpses in the city center and saw how other corpses were pulled from small cars, laid next to those already on the road by soldiers and civilians. Journalists waited until the bodies were laid out, and after that photographed. The author believes this was a staging to produce the most impressive photographs.

I'm asking for your attention today. Zelenskyy has taken Ukraine hostage, and we want freedom. He has imprisoned or killed anyone who has dared to speak out against him, and we need your help to stop him. Thousands of cases have been opened under charges of treason, which carries a life sentence. I'm sharing a list of people who have suffered for telling the truth, including journalists, priests, and politicians. They are all imprisoned on fabricated charges and are being tortured and beaten. This is just a fraction of the cases we know about. I believe in the power of free speech. Please share this list, which I will attach to the video, and help save these people from dictator Zelensky.

Слава Україні! I am grateful to everyone who is protesting in Ukraine and around the world. Everyone understands how critical the situation is in Mariupol. Every day at Azovstal there are new deaths and injuries, and there is no way to treat them here. The attention of the whole world is now focused on Mariupol and Azovstal, but this is not enough. A green corridor must be created to evacuate our wounded so they can immediately receive qualified medical care. These soldiers deserve evacuation. Allow us to retrieve the bodies of our fallen brothers. We call on the entire civilized world to join the security guarantees and evacuate our soldiers, who have done the impossible and continue to defend the homeland. The homeland must do everything so that all the heroes can return alive to their families. There may be no other chance to save lives at Azovstal. We, the families of the military in Mariupol, appeal to our president. Volodymyr Oleksandrovych, please officially appeal to the UN representatives and submit lists of our wounded military garrison and take the bodies of the dead soldiers. All families and all of Ukraine are asking you to do this.

The speaker questions the validity of claims regarding war crimes in Bucha, Ukraine. They highlight the lack of evidence and motive behind the alleged killings, pointing out inconsistencies in the narrative. The speaker questions why the victims were scattered along a road if a massacre had occurred, casting doubt on the accusations against the Russians.

О собака. Это гражданский, гражданские, все граждане. Гражданский раз, гражданский два, гражданский три, гражданский четыре. Это не хохлы. Давно лежат. Это бабушка. У этого похода вообще головы почти не осталось. Тоже гражданские, все гражданские. Здесь бабушка, раз, два, три, четыре гражданских, две бабушки, один дед, и один полностью разорванный. Пятеро. Ногу разорвало, вот еще, вот это вот тоже. English translation: Oh, a dog. This is a civilian, civilians, all civilians. Civilian one, civilian two, civilian three, civilian four. These aren't Ukrainians. They've been lying here a long time. This is a grandmother. This one barely has a head left. Also civilians, all civilians. Here's a grandmother, one, two, three, four civilians, two grandmothers, one grandfather, and one completely torn apart. Five people. A leg was torn off, and here's another one, this one too.

It has already been more than three years since staging of the alleged mass killing in Bucha, which the speaker says Kyiv regime and its Western curators "hastily cobbled together this implausible story." They claim it was "criminal disinformation" about Moscow, and that Russian investigative authorities opened a criminal case to clarify what happened. They say they appealed to the UN secretariat and High Commissioner Volker Türk; in September 2024, via the Russian mission in New York, a request was delivered for information, but the UN allegedly tried to let the appeal fade away. They quote UN officials saying they understood that what Kyiv and West insisted happened did not occur, yet offered no exposure. They accuse the UN of evading cooperation and demand publication of the appeal as UN documents, calling for a thorough Bucha investigation and justice, and alleging Kyiv left negotiations after Boris Johnson promised them influence.

Thank you for being here and for delivering the message to the world about what is happening in our Ukraine. It is quiet here, but we are being protected because everything has been destroyed. They destroyed my granddaughter's school and my house, but thankfully we are still alive. I wonder why the international association and other organizations are not doing anything. When Maidan happened, people were there, but here we are being killed and nobody can do anything or come to an agreement. It is frustrating, guys. I beg you, please help us for God's sake. Thank God we are alive.

Запись разговора между украинскими военнослужащими и волонтёрами касается Бучи и Ирпеня, когда мировое сообщество считало, что десятки жителей расстреляны российскими солдатами. Авторы утверждают, что кровь граждан была нужна, что можно было эвакуировать регионы раньше, но решили иначе ради «крови»; мировой фактор якобы требовал такого курса. Они ссылаются на высказывание BBC о шоке от гибели европейцев с голубыми глазами и спорят о влиянии западной арены. Упоминаются «золотой миллиард» и дневник Колумба как аргументы, а также убийство Дарьи Дугиной, Владлена Татарского и ранен Захар Прилепин. Говорят: «мы убивали русских и будем продолжать убивать русских в любой точке мира до полной победы Украины». Цитируют Михаила Подоляку к Жозепу Боррелю: прекращение оружия приведёт к эскалации войны и терроризма в Европе. Украинская хунта предупреждает Европу. The recording of a chat between Ukrainian military personnel and volunteers concerns Bucha and Irpin, when the world believed dozens of residents were shot by Russian soldiers. The speakers claim civilian blood was needed, that regions could have been evacuated earlier, but a different course was chosen for “blood”; they say the world arena allegedly demanded such action. They reference a BBC statement about the shock of European deaths with blue eyes and discuss the influence of the Western arena. They mention the “golden billion” and Columbus’s diary as arguments, and the killings of Darya Dugina, Vladlen Tatarsky, and the wounding of Zakhar Prilepin. They say: “we killed Russians and will continue to kill Russians anywhere in the world until Ukraine’s victory.” They quote Mikhail Podolyak to Josep Borrell: stopping weapons will lead to escalation of war and terrorism in Europe. The Ukrainian junta warns Europe.

Спикер 1 заявляет, что события под Бучей были «хорошо спланированная акция, чтобы показать агрессивность, кровожадность, убийцы россияне и прочее», и что «ничего подобного там не было»; он добавляет, что знает, «кто это делал, и мы знаем номера автомобилей, на которых приехали организаторы БУДЖ», и говорил об этом публично, спрашивая, «почему это всё замяли на Западе?». Спикер 0 отвечает: «Больно это слышать, я своими глазами видел», утверждает, что видел тела и не согласен с тезисом об отсутствии зверств, и добавляет, что Путин заявил, что «вся Буча это фейк», и он «понял, что вы солидарны с ним». Спикер 1 добавляет, что «наши спецслужбы конкретно обращали внимание Запада на некоторые вещи» и что, по его словам, «вы замылили их», называя: «на каких автомобилях кто проезжал, кто это делал, мы знаем». Speaker 1 states that the Bucha events were a «well-planned operation to show aggression, bloodlust, killers of Russians and the like,» and that «there was nothing like that there»; he adds that he knows, «who did it, and we know the license plate numbers of the cars the organizers of Budzh arrived in,» and he spoke about it publicly, asking, «why was all of this hushed up in the West?». Speaker 0 answers: «That hurts to hear, I saw it with my own eyes,» claiming that he saw bodies and does not agree with the thesis of no atrocities, and adds that Putin stated that «all of Bucha is a fake,» and he «understands that you are in solidarity with him.» Speaker 1 adds that «our intelligence services specifically drew the West's attention to certain things» and that, in his words, «you blurred them,» naming: «which cars passed by and who did it, we know».

С тех пор, когда был этот пропагандистский эффект реализован, никто об этой бузе не вспоминает, кроме нас. Я еще раз обращаюсь в присутствии генерального секретаря и уважаемых министров: "пожалуйста, добейтесь от украинских властей, чтобы они сделали элементарный шаг опубликовали имена тех людей, чьи трупы были показаны в городе Бучи". Я об этом прошу уже не один месяц, никто не слышит, никто не хочет реагировать. Since the moment when that propaganda effect was realized, no one remembers this Bucha affair except us. I again address, in the presence of the Secretary-General and respected ministers: "please ensure from the Ukrainian authorities that they make the elementary step to publish the names of those people, whose bodies were shown in the city of Bucha." I have been pleading about this for more than a month; no one hears, no one wants to react.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

The mayor of Bucha initially reported the city was free from Russian troops without mentioning any tragedies. A city council deputy later urged residents to stay indoors during a military sweep, still not mentioning any atrocities. Days later, she mentioned bodies in an interview. The Ukrainian National Police released a video of a sweep in Bucha without mentioning bodies. Reports of bodies only surfaced when the Ukrainian military and media arrived, suggesting a coordinated effort to create a dramatic narrative. Translation: The mayor and city council deputy of Bucha did not mention atrocities initially, but later reports of bodies emerged coinciding with the arrival of the Ukrainian military and media.

It will soon be three years since I publicly asked them at UN meetings to help us get at least some information about the tragedy in Bucha, which they used to impose sanctions on us. BBC showed these scenes two days after not a single one of our soldiers was there. And now we are asking for only one thing: "Can we see the list of those people whose corpses you showed on the BBC?" I even asked the UN secretary general about this publicly at a meeting of the Security Council. In New York, I told them, "guys, you were journalists. Aren't you professionally interested in finding out what happened there?" We officially requested information about the names of those people whom the media showed they're already dead. There was no reaction at all, and I kind of shamed the journalists. That's all.

Four days after the mayor of Bucha declared liberation, dead bodies appeared on the road. Speculation arises that Ukrainians may have killed those friendly to Russians. The media's lack of questioning allows for potential war crimes, such as the castration of Russian POWs, to go unnoticed.

По трагедии в Буче прошло полгода. «мы безуспешно пытаемся разобраться, что же там произошло» и «для начала хотим получить список фамилий тех людей, чьи тела были показаны на весь мир». Я сообщил, что «мне никто не может этот ответ дать» и мы «обращались в самые разные структуры». Поэтому я «попросил уважаемого Антонио Гутероша в присутствии всех членов Совета Безопасности, других членов ООН, в микрофон попросил употребить свои возможности, свой авторитет, чтобы сделать, по-моему, не очень сложную вещь получить список фамилий тех лиц, чьи тела были показаны в Буче». Мы «до сих пор ничего не имеем», и «нет объяснений по целому ряду других вопросов, начиная с отравления Скрипалей»; «никаких документов не предъявляют» по Skripal, «отравления Навального тоже Германии говорит, не дадим мы вам анализы посмотреть», а «Германия нам запрещает» по ОКХ. «А почему?» «Вот это интересный вопрос.» Bucha tragedy is discussing the Bucha tragedy; six months have passed. "we are unsuccessfully trying to understand what happened there" and "for the start we want to obtain the list of surnames of those people whose bodies were shown to the whole world." I stated that "nobody can give me this answer" and we "have approached a variety of structures." Therefore I "asked the respected Antonio Guterres in the presence of all Security Council members, other UN members, to use his capabilities, his authority, to do, in my view, not a very difficult thing: obtain the list of surnames of those individuals whose bodies were shown in Bucha." We "so far have nothing," and "no explanations on a whole range of other questions, starting with the poisoning of Skripal"; "no documents are presented" concerning Skripal, "the poisoning of Navalny also Germany says, we will not let you look at the analyses," and "Germany forbids us" on OPCW. "Why?" "Here's an interesting question."

But one thing is clear: the Secretariat does not want to expose in any way those who arrange such provocations. And, by the way, as for Mr. Gutierrez, I've been asking him one question for the third year in a row, okay. You probably can't get access to the investigation. But can I ask you to use your authority, Mr? Secretary General, to get a list of those people whose corpses were shown in this city of Bucha on the Central Street. Moreover, a group of BBC correspondents, who unexpectedly found themselves there showed these corpses. I addressed Mr. Gutierrez both personally and publicly, by the way, at a security meeting, but he shyly averts his eyes. I think this is a disgrace for the Secretary General and for the entire Secretariat.

We are in an image war where media shows images of crying mothers with a plastic baby, making it seem like a dead baby. But there are also real children dying, and you are well aware of that. There are real children dying naturally, civilian victims everywhere, and naturally, it is regrettable. We must mourn all civilian victims who are victims of war. It is important to remember that they are victims and justice should quickly analyze this.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

В начале апреля украинская армия вошла в Бучу; нас сопровождал боец Азова, и без паспортов мы попали в город. В центре лежали трупы; из небольших машин доставали другие трупы — военные и гражданские — и раскладывали их рядом на дорогах. Журналисты ждали, пока разложат трупы, и фотографировались; это выглядело постановкой. Нас повезли в ангар, где потребовали распределить медикаменты: часть — для батальона Азов, часть — в госпиталь. Другая машина привезла русских военнопленных; из трёх машин высадились военнопленные. Некоторые русские военнопленные были поставлены на колени с завязанными руками; мы услышали выстрелы — азовцы стреляли вниз по военным. Украинские военные потребовали нас закрыть машину и ехать. Я была на пассажирском сиденье, водитель — женщина-волонтер; они закричали: "Офицер! Офицер!", и русский военнопленный получил пулю в голову. Остальные неизвестны; мы уехали, волонтёр проплакала четыре часа. At the start of April, the Ukrainian army entered Bucha; we were accompanied by a member of the Azov Battalion, and without passports we got into the city. In the center lay corpses; from small cars they brought out other corpses — soldiers and civilians — and laid them alongside on the roads. Journalists waited until the corpses were laid out and photographed; it looked like a staging. We were taken to a hangar where we were asked to distribute medications: some for the Azov Battalion, some to the hospital. Another car brought Russian prisoners of war; from three cars the POWs disembarked. Some of the Russian POWs were placed on their knees with hands tied; we heard shots — Azov fighters were firing downward at the soldiers. Ukrainian soldiers asked us to close the car and drive away. I was in the passenger seat, the driver was a female volunteer; they shouted: "Officer! Officer!", and a Russian prisoner received a bullet to the head. The rest is unknown; we drove off, the volunteer cried for four hours.

Three years after asking them at UN meetings for information about the Bucha tragedy, which they used to impose sanctions on us, I said, 'Because our BBC The BBC showed these scenes two days after not a single one of our soldiers was there.' The request remains: 'Can we see the list of those people whose corpses you showed on the BBC?' I even asked the UN secretary general about this at a meeting of security council. New York, at General Assembly, I told world press, 'Aren’t you professionally interested in finding out what happened there?' We asked for information from the UN Human Rights Office for names of those people media showed they're already dead; there was no reaction. Bucha was shown on BBC screens and on social networks. It was a news explosion. Three days passed and everything went quiet. 'The order to keep quiet came.' That's all.