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The speaker highlights that although the current virus is not extremely deadly, it has had a significant impact on the world. This raises concerns about the implications of a larger problem like climate change. They agree with Ratko that the situation demonstrates the ability to make massive changes, such as stopping flights and locking down countries. This experience may make people more receptive to radical ideas for addressing climate change.

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The speaker states that the current virus, though not extremely deadly, demonstrates the potential global impact of a larger problem like climate change. The speaker agrees with Ratko that the pandemic shows the possibility of enacting large-scale changes, such as stopping flights and locking down countries, while life continues. This may make people more receptive to radical ideas for addressing climate change.

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the growing urgency of climate-related concerns and how global attention has shifted in recent years. Speaker 1 states: “the phenomenal change that's come about in the last two or three years is that probably isn't a child over the age of six that isn't deeply concerned about climate change. I mean, there were reports in the past, but now the focus of the world are on those problems, whether it's droughts, whether it's storms, whether it's the seaside being ruined, just undermining life.” This underscores a marked increase in concern among younger generations about climate issues and a perception that the world’s focus has shifted to problems such as droughts, storms, and the degradation of seaside environments, which are framed as threats to life. Speaker 0 adds context by noting that “Corona has slightly, I'm afraid, eclipsed the importance of this conversation. No one's saying corona isn't incredibly devastating, but actually, we do need to think long term about the planet.” This introduces a tension between the immediate impacts of the pandemic and the need for long-term planetary thinking, suggesting that the pandemic has overshadowed discussions about climate, even while acknowledging its devastation. Speaker 1 elaborates on the consequence of this shift, characterizing the pandemic’s impact as “a distraction. Well, more than a distraction. It's a tragedy, but it does have that knock on effect.” This phrase emphasizes that the pandemic is not only a distraction but also has broader knock-on effects that affect attention to climate and long-term planetary considerations. Together, the speakers convey a sense of heightened public concern about climate change among young people, the prominence of climate-related problems such as droughts, storms, and coastal degradation, and the challenge posed by the COVID-19 pandemic in diverting attention away from long-term environmental planning. The exchange indicates a tension between addressing urgent, immediate crises and maintaining focus on long-term planetary health.

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When facing immediate survival needs like paying rent or buying groceries, it's easy to deprioritize climate change. Instinctively, during tough times, the focus shifts to short-term concerns. However, we cannot afford to ignore climate change, as it requires long-term attention and action. Unfortunately, there is significant political messaging that contradicts this necessity.

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There is a sense of COVID fatigue among the public, causing them to latch onto new stories. The focus of the speaker's office will shift to climate change awareness once the pandemic is over. They anticipate showing videos of declining ice and the warming weather to highlight the effects on the economy. The speaker, Zach, and their team have discussed this as the next big story, similar to a pandemic, but with a longer duration. Climate change will be heavily emphasized, potentially with a lot of fear-based content.

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The conversation opens with Speaker 0 arguing that there is no climate catastrophe or climate emergency. They claim that the threat narrative is pervasive, describing “tentacles” extending across the public sector, private sector, and academia. The speaker asserts that politicians, exemplified by Mark Carney, use fear mongering to secure votes, and notes that this phenomenon is seen globally, predominantly in left-leaning governments. According to Speaker 0, the climate discourse represents self-sabotage and economic suicide. They describe economies as being strangled by a left-wing agenda, contending that such forces are shaping markets, national policy, media output, education, and financial flows. The overarching claim is that this agenda is about power and control, with fear mongering used to imply a climate catastrophe. The transcript then shifts to a brief interlude welcoming Desiree Fixler. Desiree Fixler is thanked for joining again, with a note that much has happened since their last chat.

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"There's the transformative, if I might use that word, experience that we've all had now in year five of COVID." The speaker says, "The thought that we won't have another pandemic, I think is naive at best and just not completely unrealistic at worst." They add, "I'm convinced that there will be another pandemic and that's the reason why we have to be perpetually prepared to prevent the terrible impact of a pandemic."

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The speaker discusses the future focus of their office, which will be on climate change awareness. They anticipate showing videos of declining ice and the effects of climate change on the economy. They mention that the head of the network, Zucker, and his counsel have discussed this as the next big story, comparing it to the pandemic. They believe that climate change will be a long-lasting issue and that it will be the main topic for their network.

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The speaker asks the panelists what percentage of our atmosphere is CO2. They give various guesses, ranging from 5% to 8%. The speaker then mentions that he often hears about climate change and CO2, but the actual percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.04%. He emphasizes that this small change in CO2 is causing a lot of concern and argues that if the percentage drops below 0.02, plant life will start dying off.

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COVID-19 and climate change are both global challenges that require action. The pandemic has shown us the importance of global cooperation, and we must apply that lesson to the climate crisis. As we rebuild from the pandemic, we have an opportunity to build back better and take strong action against climate change. The warnings about climate change are clear, and we cannot ignore them. We need to focus on this natural challenge and work together to find solutions. However, some argue that global crises are fabricated to gain control and that dissenting voices are silenced. These patterns, they claim, are proof of a scam.

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There were two pandemics happening simultaneously: the blue pandemic and the green pandemic. The green pandemic refers to COVID-19, while the blue pandemic is less visible due to the dominance of COVID-19. The speaker wants to understand why there were two pandemics and why only one was widely discussed. They mention that the two pandemics correlate strongly and suggest exploring other phenomena that occurred during this time.

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In the last few years, children over 6 are deeply concerned about climate change. The focus is now on issues like droughts, storms, and rising sea levels. The conversation about climate change has been somewhat overshadowed by the coronavirus pandemic, but it's crucial to prioritize long-term thinking about the planet. The pandemic is a tragedy, but it has also served as a distraction from addressing environmental issues.

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The speaker discusses the future focus of the media, stating that climate change will be the next big topic after the pandemic. They anticipate constant coverage of climate-related issues, such as melting ice and its impact on the economy. The speaker suggests that the media will heavily emphasize the science behind climate change and predicts that this topic will be extensively covered for a long time. They also mention that climate change will be the new "crazed machine" like COVID-19, with a similar level of attention and coverage.

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In the past few years, climate change has become a major concern for children aged 6 and above. The world's attention is now focused on the problems caused by climate change, such as floods, storms, and the destruction of coastal areas. However, the conversation about climate change has been somewhat overshadowed by the COVID-19 pandemic. While acknowledging the devastating impact of the pandemic, it is important to also consider the long-term effects on our planet. The pandemic has acted as a distraction, which is tragic and has consequences.

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Speaker 1 clarifies that when talking about climate change, they used metaphors to convey their message. They did not mean for people to literally panic, but rather wanted to evoke a sense of urgency. There was no specific scientific study that led them to this conclusion.

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The speaker acknowledges that while the current virus is not extremely deadly, it has had a significant impact on the world. They then speculate on the implications of a larger problem like climate change. They agree with Ratko that the current situation demonstrates the ability to make massive changes, such as stopping flights and locking down countries. They suggest that this experience may make people more receptive to radical ideas for addressing climate change.

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In the past few years, there has been a significant change in children's awareness of climate change. It seems that every child over the age of 6 is deeply concerned about it. The world's attention is now focused on the problems caused by climate change, such as floods, storms, and the destruction of coastal areas. However, the conversation about climate change has been somewhat overshadowed by the current pandemic. While the impact of COVID-19 is devastating, we must not forget to consider the long-term effects on our planet. The pandemic is not only a tragedy but also a distraction from addressing the urgent issue of climate change.

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The speaker highlights the impact of climate change, which is leading to an increasing number of climate refugees. They express concern about the xenophobia and political authoritarianism that has arisen from the relatively small number of refugees. With the projected number of refugees reaching one billion in this century, the speaker warns that our ability to govern ourselves will be compromised. Urgent action is necessary to address this global challenge.

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In the past few years, climate change has become a major concern for children aged 6 and above. The world's attention is now focused on the various problems caused by climate change, such as floods, storms, and coastal damage. However, the current COVID-19 pandemic has somewhat overshadowed the importance of addressing climate change. While acknowledging the devastating impact of the pandemic, it is crucial that we also consider the long-term implications for our planet. The pandemic is not just a distraction, but a tragedy with far-reaching consequences.

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Speaker 0 asks if there is something coming or a natural disaster and whether the other person has heard of claims about something big coming, and if they know what it might be. Speaker 1 confirms they have heard of them and are aware of them, but says they are not able to have that conversation. They ask what might be imminent and state that time is not a luxury we can afford; the time has come. They emphasize that we need to start having the conversation collectively, noting that we should have started a while ago, but now we really need to start having the conversation.

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Immediate action is needed to address the global crisis and create a sustainable future. The pandemic has highlighted the urgency of the situation, which has been ignored for too long. It is now becoming a catastrophic problem that will surpass the impact of COVID-19. To tackle this, a martial-like plan is necessary for nature, people, and the planet. The melting permafrost in Siberia and the fires in the Pantanal are clear signs of the critical state we are in. We must approach this challenge with a warlike mindset and shift our trajectory towards a net zero target.

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Climate change is a major concern, with the government prioritizing it over other threats like Russia or China. Activists have significant influence, and the issue has permeated all levels of government. Some link climate change to population control, believing it's a tactic to limit people's impact on the environment. This connection may not be obvious to everyone, but it's a key goal for those advocating for climate action.

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There is a sense of COVID fatigue, and the focus is shifting towards climate change. The plan is to constantly show videos of declining ice and the effects of global warming on the economy. Zach, the head of the network, along with his counsel, believes that climate change will be the next big story, similar to the pandemic. They expect it to last for years and plan to milk it for all its worth. There will be a lot of fear surrounding climate change.

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Climate change is the biggest threat to the world. Time is running out, and this is a fact. Finally, everyone in America is acknowledging it.

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Joe Rogan Experience #472 - Shane Smith

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The episode of The Joe Rogan Experience features Shane Smith discussing various topics, including mobile service provider Ting, which offers a no-contract model that charges users based on their actual usage, potentially saving customers money. They also touch on the evolution of mobile phones, including the LG Flex and the future of technology, such as roll-up phones and electric cars like Teslas. Smith shares insights from his travels, particularly regarding the geopolitical tensions in the Arctic due to melting ice, which is opening up new shipping routes and access to natural resources. He discusses the military buildup in the region, with countries like Russia and China vying for control over these newly accessible areas. The conversation shifts to climate change, with Smith emphasizing the urgency of addressing it. He cites a NASA climatologist who stated that human activity is entirely responsible for the accelerating effects of climate change, warning that significant portions of the world's cities could be submerged due to rising sea levels. Smith critiques the denial of climate change, noting that many people cling to conservative ideologies that contradict scientific consensus, often influenced by fossil fuel companies. He highlights the disconnect between the realities of climate change and the public's perception, particularly in regions experiencing severe droughts. The discussion also covers the economic disparities exacerbated by the 2008 recession, the influence of money on politics, and the role of technology in shaping future economies. Smith argues that the current economic system is flawed, with wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, and suggests that a new approach is needed to create a more equitable society. They explore the implications of surveillance and the erosion of privacy in modern society, particularly in light of the NSA's activities. Smith expresses concern about the normalization of a police state and the potential for technology to be used against citizens. The episode concludes with a reflection on the importance of grassroots movements and the need for individuals to take action against injustices, emphasizing that collective efforts can lead to meaningful change. Smith encourages listeners to engage with the issues discussed, highlighting the interconnectedness of global challenges and the necessity for awareness and action.