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The speaker states that climate-related predictions are not science but politics. They claim that in the sixties, it was predicted oil would be gone in ten years. In the seventies, it was another ice age in ten years. In the eighties, acid rain would destroy all the crops in ten years. In the nineties, the ozone layer would be destroyed in ten years. In the 2000s, the glaciers would all melt in ten years. In the 2010s, the East and West Coast would be underwater from rising sea levels in ten years. The speaker asserts that none of these predictions came true, but they resulted in higher taxes.

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The speaker argues that the current climate is not warmer than previous periods in history. They claim that carbon dioxide levels are at their lowest in 600 million years. They also mention that the medieval warm period was warmer than the present, but this information was allegedly removed from the IPCC reports to fit a specific narrative. The speaker suggests that those who challenge this narrative do not receive sufficient media coverage. They mention the large amount of money invested in climate change.

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In the past, there were concerns about air pollution causing an ice age, but now the focus has shifted to global warming. The media and the United Nations have been promoting alarmist rhetoric about man-made climate change for decades. However, these predictions of doom have not come true. The purpose of this messaging is to instill fear, allowing governments to gain centralized power and control over people's actions. This serves the agenda of globalism led by the United Nations and the Chinese Communist Party, which is not in the best interest of Australia. These entities aim to control and weaken us, and that is the real emergency.

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According to consensus science, there is no evidence of human influence on hurricanes in the past century. Heat waves in the US have not become more frequent since 1900, and incidents have remained steady for the past 60 years. Global wildfires have actually decreased by about 25% since 2003, despite notable fires in Australia and California in 2020. The information on climate change goes through a chain from research papers to assessment reports, summaries, media, and finally reaches the public. This process leaves room for misinformation and manipulation. The speaker questions why individuals like Greta Thunberg, who hold catastrophic views, receive platforms while knowledgeable scientists who don't share the same perspective are overlooked. The speaker also mentions H. L. Mencken's quote about politicians using imaginary threats to keep the public alarmed.

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As a scientist, I emphasize looking at data to understand trends in extreme events and their causes. Historical records show that heat waves and wildfires were more severe in the 1930s than today. There is no long-term increase in hurricanes or global drought. Contrary to popular belief, polar bear populations are growing, and the Great Barrier Reef is thriving. The idea of a climate emergency is refuted by scientific evidence, challenging the narrative of man-made climate chaos. The so-called consensus on climate change is questioned, highlighting the importance of examining data objectively.

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The speaker believes climate change concerns are politically motivated, not scientific. They cite past predictions that did not come true: in the sixties, oil depletion in ten years; in the seventies, another ice age in ten years; in the eighties, acid rain destroying crops in ten years; in the nineties, ozone layer destruction in ten years; in the two-thousands, glaciers melting in ten years; and in the twenty-tens, coasts underwater in ten years. The speaker claims these instances of "fear mongering nonsense" always resulted in higher taxes.

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We are being misled with exaggerated information about a climate crisis. Human carbon dioxide emissions are said to drive global warming, but only account for 3% of emissions. The rest is natural. The climate hysteria is about money, not the environment. Expensive electricity bills and job losses are linked to this deception. It is a con not supported by science.

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The conversation opens with Speaker 0 arguing that there is no climate catastrophe or climate emergency. They claim that the threat narrative is pervasive, describing “tentacles” extending across the public sector, private sector, and academia. The speaker asserts that politicians, exemplified by Mark Carney, use fear mongering to secure votes, and notes that this phenomenon is seen globally, predominantly in left-leaning governments. According to Speaker 0, the climate discourse represents self-sabotage and economic suicide. They describe economies as being strangled by a left-wing agenda, contending that such forces are shaping markets, national policy, media output, education, and financial flows. The overarching claim is that this agenda is about power and control, with fear mongering used to imply a climate catastrophe. The transcript then shifts to a brief interlude welcoming Desiree Fixler. Desiree Fixler is thanked for joining again, with a note that much has happened since their last chat.

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We are being misled with exaggerated information about a climate crisis that doesn't exist. Human carbon dioxide emissions are not proven to cause global warming, as only 3% of emissions are from humans. The focus on climate change is driven by money, not environmental concerns. Expensive electricity bills and job insecurity are direct results of this deception. This is a major scam not supported by science.

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Climate experts have been making incorrect predictions for decades. In 1969, Paul Ehrlich claimed that everyone would disappear in 20 years, but he is still being cited today. In the 1970s, experts warned of a new ice age caused by air pollution. Leonard Nimoy even made a video about it. However, when the ice age didn't happen, they shifted to global warming. In 1989, a UN official said rising sea levels would wipe out entire nations by 2000. Al Gore also made incorrect predictions in his documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth." Despite these failures, the media continues to amplify these claims. Climate change is a natural process that we cannot control, and there are both upsides and downsides to it.

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The speaker argues that life on Earth is in crisis due to crop failure, social and ecological collapse, and mass extinction, framing these as part of Extinction Rebellion’s climate alarmist narrative and a broader political and financial “climate industrial complex” that aims to control purchases, diet, and travel in the name of sustainability and net-zero emissions. They contend that people rely on governments and the media rather than data, and promise to show that temperatures fluctuate, are not unprecedented, and that natural disasters are not getting worse. They claim climate data is unreliable and that CO2 plays a small role in climate, while presenting scientific evidence that we are not in a climate crisis. Using a 65-million-year temperature graph, the speaker states the Earth today is in a cool period and is coming out of an ice age, noting that life thrived in much warmer times without human CO2 emissions. They assert that over the last two thousand years there have been two warm periods and two cold periods, including the Roman warm period, the cold Dark Ages, the medieval warm period, and the Little Ice Age, with current warming described as a recovery from the Little Ice Age. The three degrees Fahrenheit of warming cited by scientists and the media is described as not unprecedented and not cause for alarm due to ongoing fluctuations. The speaker argues that warming and CO2 emissions have not made natural disasters more frequent or violent, citing hurricane and wildfire data. They reference a graph from the Bulletin of the American Urological Society showing a slight downward trend in US hurricanes per year since 1900, and a North Atlantic hurricane intensity graph from 1920 to 2016 showing no trend. They claim the 2014 US National Climate Assessment presents an illusory upward trend by focusing on a red-highlighted portion. They also claim that US and global acres burned by wildfires have been decreasing since 1900. Regarding data reliability, the speaker highlights a gap between climate model predictions and observed data, noting that temperature measurements from weather balloons align with satellite data, while climate models over-predict warming. They discuss the urban heat island effect, giving Paris as an example where city temperatures are much higher than surrounding rural areas, suggesting data can be biased to frighten the public. The speaker argues CO2 is not the climate control knob, as it is only 0.04% of the atmosphere, and that historical CO2 levels have been far higher than today. They cite MIT oceanographer Carl Wunsch (spelled as Karl Wench) to claim that when oceans warm, more CO2 is released, and when oceans are cold, CO2 is absorbed. A graph is described showing CO2 rising centuries after temperature increases, implying temperature drives CO2 more than the reverse. They acknowledge CO2 may have some small influence but emphasize many other factors—volcanic activity, cosmic rays, and the sun—and claim limiting CO2 would largely stunt biodiversity with little effect on temperature. The speaker argues CO2 is essential for photosynthesis and that farmers use high CO2 in greenhouses to boost crop yields, illustrating CO2 as a life-giving gas and stating it would green the planet and increase food supply if CO2 increases. They conclude that climate change is an existential threat in Western discourse but offer this as historical context from Aztecs to the Salem witch trials. They mention carbon taxes and individual CO2 budgets as signs of climate issues infiltrating daily life and frame their conclusion as pursuing truth by examining data themselves. In summary, the speaker presents historical temperature variability, critiques of data and models, downplays CO2’s role, highlights CO2’s benefits to plant growth, and asserts that the climate crisis is a hoax to be opposed by scrutinizing data personally.

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Anne expresses concern over the mainstream media accepting false information about climate change. She argues that data shows no increase in hurricanes, sea level rise, bushfires, or climate-related deaths. She criticizes the lack of evidence supporting the claim that human emissions drive global warming. The other speaker questions why the media continues to believe inaccurate predictions without questioning their credibility. Anne suggests that scare tactics and propaganda have been used for 30 years to manipulate public opinion.

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Climate change skeptics are often dismissed and mocked by the media. However, there is a manufactured consensus among climate scientists, driven by incentives like fame and fortune. Researcher Judith Curry, who spreads alarm about climate change, published a study claiming that the intensity of hurricanes had doubled. This was picked up by the media, who tied extreme weather events to global warming. Curry became popular among environmental advocacy groups and received media attention, being treated like a rock star. However, some researchers pointed out gaps in her research, including years with low levels of hurricane activity.

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The speaker notes that 'the climate change hysteria has sort of magically gone away' and offers two theories: 'the climate hysteria was astroturfed' with 'funding got pulled with Biden out,' or that 'there's so much money to be made in AI that no one wants to criticize the energy industry anymore.' They add that 'climate change was always a luxury belief in Europe but Europe is having financial problems.' The speaker argues that 'the data has been so not cooperating now for several years and we don't have we just don't have the signs that they promise us' and says 'All data is fake,' questions 'measuring the temperature of the earth,' mentions 'No. We don't have like a new technology,' and concludes 'climate change I'm not expecting to make a big comeback but I could be wrong.'

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The speaker claims that the current climate is not warmer than it has been in history, stating that the carbon dioxide levels are the lowest in 600 million years. They also mention that the medieval warm period was warmer than the present, but it was removed from the IPCC's reports to fit a specific narrative. The speaker criticizes the lack of media coverage for those who challenge this narrative, attributing it to the large amount of money invested in the climate change agenda.

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The speakers express concern about the mainstream media accepting false information about climate change. They argue that hurricanes, sea levels, bushfires, and climate-related deaths are not increasing as claimed. They criticize the lack of evidence supporting the idea that human emissions drive global warming. Despite the inaccuracies in their predictions, the speakers believe that the media continues to promote scare stories for attention. They highlight the absence of proof in arguments against coal, gas, and hydrocarbons. Overall, they question why the media's credibility remains intact despite their track record of incorrect predictions.

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Climate scientist Judith Curry discusses her journey from being an alarmist to a skeptic of climate change. She explains how her research on hurricanes and global warming was misinterpreted by the media, leading to her being demonized by both sides of the debate. Curry criticizes the politicization of climate science and the pressure to conform to the consensus. She argues that the extreme scenarios and alarming predictions are not supported by the evidence and that the real underlying problems, such as poverty and poor governance, are being ignored. Curry emphasizes the need for a more balanced and nuanced approach to climate change.

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The speaker argues that the current climate is not warmer than previous periods in history. They claim that carbon dioxide levels are at their lowest in 600 million years. They also mention that the medieval warm period was warmer than the present, but this information was removed from the IPCC reports to fit a specific narrative. The speaker believes that those who challenge this narrative are not receiving media attention. They highlight the significant amount of money invested in the climate change narrative.

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The speaker claims that the current climate is not warmer than previous periods in history. They argue that carbon dioxide levels are at their lowest in 600 million years. They also mention the medieval warm period, which was supposedly warmer than the present, but was removed from the IPCC's reports. The speaker criticizes the use of a graph called the hockey stick, which flattened out temperature changes and added an instrumental record that appears to show a significant increase. They believe that those who challenge this narrative are not receiving sufficient media coverage, despite the large amount of funding dedicated to climate change.

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The speaker argues that the current climate is not warmer than previous periods in history. They claim that carbon dioxide levels are at their lowest in 600 million years. They also mention that the medieval warm period was warmer than the present, but it was removed from the IPCC's reports to fit a specific narrative. The speaker believes that those who criticize this manipulation of data are not receiving sufficient media coverage. They highlight the significant amount of money being invested in climate change.

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The speaker argues that anthropogenic climate change is a lie and a scam. They claim that climate models are not the same as equations and that they do not accurately predict the future. They mention the COVID-19 crisis and how the predicted death toll was proven wrong, implying that climate change predictions are also unreliable. They mention a Nobel laureate in physics who denies the existence of climate change, suggesting a conspiracy. The speaker believes that attributing climate change to human activity is a plot to justify government intervention in people's lives and increase public spending. They view it as a form of totalitarianism.

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The speaker believes climate change theory is a conspiracy and is "completely stupid." They claim the narrative that carbon dioxide controls world temperatures is false. According to the speaker, data shows world temperatures control carbon dioxide concentration, and CO2 has no effect. The speaker alleges the climate is cooling, citing satellite data. They accuse American and United Nations operations of producing fraudulent data by manipulating past temperatures to appear colder and present temperatures to appear warmer.

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Twenty years after Al Gore warned of imminent polar melt, the transcript argues that Antarctic sea ice extent is now greater than it was when that claim was made, with satellite records dating back to 1979 showing long periods of stability and even overall expansion. The same pattern is reported in Antarctic wildlife: Gentoo penguins have expanded their range and increased in number, and Adelie penguins also demonstrate long-term population growth. On a global scale, the text asserts that extinction rates are far lower today than a century ago, citing a recent biodiversity study that attributes most species losses to hunting, habitat destruction, and invasive species in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, rather than climate change. The narrative further points to temperature data that allegedly contradicts alarming climate claims: in December 2025, Antarctica was colder than average, and more recently, on January 15, 2026, Concordia Station recorded a low of minus 43.4°C, described as an exceptionally frigid midsummer value for the Antarctic Plateau. The speaker contends that the Doomsday Brigade was wrong in its predictions, asserting there is zero accountability for those forecasts. The overall message contrasts alarmist climate narratives with what the speaker characterizes as evidence of stability or even improvement in Antarctic ice, wildlife populations, and broader extinction trends, while noting unusually cold conditions in specific recent measurements.

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The speaker believes climate change concerns are political, not scientific. They cite past predictions that did not come true: in the sixties, it was predicted oil would be gone in ten years; in the seventies, another ice age was predicted in ten years; in the eighties, acid rain was predicted to destroy all crops in ten years; in the nineties, the ozone layer was predicted to be destroyed in ten years; in the two-thousands, glaciers were predicted to melt in ten years; and in the twenty-tens, the East and West Coasts were predicted to be underwater in ten years. The speaker claims these instances of "fear mongering nonsense" resulted in higher taxes.

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Joe Rogan Experience #2397 - Richard Lindzen & William Happer
Guests: Richard Lindzen, William Happer
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In this Joe Rogan Experience podcast, Joe Rogan hosts Dr. Richard Lindzen, an atmospheric physicist, and Dr. William Happer, a physicist from Princeton, to discuss climate science and the prevailing narratives around climate change. Lindzen begins by outlining his extensive academic background in atmospheric sciences, noting his early enjoyment of solving tangible problems in the field before it became politicized by the global warming issue. Happer shares his background in physics and his experience as the Director of Energy Research under President Bush Sr., where he first became skeptical of climate science due to the dismissive attitude of climate researchers towards oversight. The conversation explores the history of climate change concerns, from early fears of an impending ice age in the 1970s to the focus on CO2 after Al Gore's film, An Inconvenient Truth. Lindzen and Happer argue that the demonization of CO2 is driven by financial incentives in the energy sector, which involves trillions of dollars. They suggest that politicians exploit climate change to gain power and control, stifling rational debate and labeling dissenters as 'climate change deniers.' They critique the notion of a scientific consensus on climate change, pointing out that while the science is supposedly settled, major factors like water vapor and clouds remain poorly understood. The guests challenge the narrative that the Earth's temperature should remain static, arguing that natural climate variability is normal. They express skepticism about net-zero policies, which they believe harm developing nations by making electricity unaffordable and causing phenomenal damage and pain. They contend that modernized coal plants could provide cleaner energy solutions for these regions, but are being blocked by net-zero agendas. The discussion touches on the politicization of science, where politicians co-opt the reputation of science to push their agendas, often confusing technology with science. They highlight the Earth's increased greening due to higher CO2 levels and share an anecdote about a biologist who avoided discussing the role of low CO2 levels in past human population declines. Lindzen and Happer recount their personal experiences with pushback and censorship when questioning climate change narratives. Lindzen shares instances of having papers rejected or editors fired for publishing his work. Happer discusses his experience in the Department of Energy, where climate scientists were resistant to his oversight. They criticize the peer-review process as being used to enforce conformity rather than promote open scientific inquiry. They also address the financial incentives driving climate research, noting how universities benefit from overhead income from climate grants, creating a disincentive to challenge the prevailing narrative. The discussion shifts to the factors influencing Earth's temperature, including water vapor, CO2, methane, and the sun. Lindzen explains that climate is defined as temperature variations over 30 years, and most climate change is regional rather than global. Happer notes that the establishment narrative downplays the sun's role in climate change, despite evidence of its variability. They discuss past warmings and coolings, such as those during the dinosaur age, and the periodic nature of recent ice ages. They suggest that the focus on CO2 has hindered climate science by 50 years, creating a 'plagistan era' where alternative theories are ignored. The guests explore historical parallels, such as the eugenics movement, where flawed science was used to justify discriminatory policies. They discuss the role of politicians in exploiting fear and hate, and the impact of climate change anxieties on young people. They criticize the use of extreme weather events to scare people and question the validity of climate models, noting that even UN models predict only a small reduction in GDP by 2100. They suggest that a country like Germany, with its extreme green energy policies, may serve as a cautionary tale. They also touch on the influence of social media and AI in spreading misinformation and the lack of trust in mainstream media. The conversation concludes with a call for open inquiry and verification in science. Lindzen and Happer advocate for multiple funding sources to prevent a single point of failure and encourage a more balanced approach to climate research. They caution against the dangers of political influence in science and the importance of critical thinking and skepticism. They also touch on the history of defense research and the challenges of discussing sensitive topics in academia. The guests emphasize the need to separate ideology from truth and to promote open discussion and debate based on data and facts.
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