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Speaker 0 questions whether Benjamin Netanyahu deliberately boosted Hamas to prevent a Palestinian state. Speaker 1 answers yes, it was deliberate and systematic, even on record: “Whoever wants to avoid the threat of a two state solution has to support my policy of paying protection money to the Hamas.” With the prime minister’s permission, Qatar was allowed to transfer a huge amount of cash, probably more than $1,400,000,000. By doing it, they increased Hamas’s power, with the objective that Hamas would continue to control Gaza while the Palestinian Authority would control the West Bank so they would fight each other. Speaker 0 states that Netanyahu maintained the Qatar money was to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe. Having helped to build up Hamas, Netanyahu has now vowed to destroy it. He “fed the beast,” and it exploded in our face. If national security strategy is based solely on force, then one would need to win twenty four seven forever.

Palestine was never Britain's to give away. The truth will set you free. Washington is Israel's most subservient colony. I'm a former Zionist and Jew, join me in uncovering the truth. Netanyahu said the 9/11 attacks swung American opinion in Israel's favor, using it to terrorize the public into supporting Middle East wars for Israel's benefit. Al-Qaeda and ISIS were created by the Mossad and CIA to justify these wars and advance Israel's goal of a Middle East empire. Israel used 10/07/2023 as justification to implement a plan for genocide against Palestinians. JFK supported Palestinian refugee rights and opposed Israel's nuclear program, leading to conflicts with Zionist leaders.

Speaker 0: "The whole country is a fortress." He says, "you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR 15 or an automatic machine gun that's an IDF soldier." The country is "surveilled." He adds, "The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war," noting "hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution." He says, "Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead." He asks, "Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order?" Speaker 1: "I'm so fucking glad that people found this clip again" after sharing it, saying he was "one of very few people" saying the same thing and facing backlash. He recalls finding "a clip from Charlie Kirk" that helped shift the narrative, though "the clip disappeared and I couldn't find it anymore." He notes "There was he was on Ben Shapiro not long ago talking about why we cannot criticize Israel." "That's my biggest interaction with Charlie Kirk" and that "there were a few of us" trying to push the message until "it started to get picked up."

Charlie Kirk openly questioned the story Israel was trying to tell the world about October 7. Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. There's also another country that asked Qatar to support Hamas. It was Israel. In 2018, Netanyahu himself sent a secret letter to the Qatari leadership. In that letter, he urged Qatar to deliver $30,000,000 a month to Gaza. That policy was approved by the full Israeli Security Cabinet. Qatar just gifted The United States a $400,000,000 jet. Israel sending bombs in return is one heck of a thank you note. Is American hegemony in 2025 really watching our own air defenses shooting down US funded bombs launched from US made planes?

They say Charlie Kirk was offered an infusion of $150,000,000 by Israel to shield for Israel harder; Turning Point USA has a budget of $140,000,000. Israel allegedly aimed to make Kirk 'more pro Israel' and back regime change in Iran and 'ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.' Kirk refused the money. Netanyahu then invited him to Jerusalem for a 'reeducation tour' and the Holocaust museum—the burned babies, the beheaded babies; he refused that as well. They offered to bribe him and reeducate him, and he refused both. Two, Bill Ackman hosted this event at his house in the Hamptons where, according to supporters, pro-Israel mouthpieces berated and screamed at him for not supporting Israel enough; Kirk's friends say he felt scared and possibly blackmailed. Well, he's dead now, so he can't tell us what really went down; all we know is the alleged feelings of those present, not his perspective.

“If their government came out and said, we have a five year plan to decouple from USAID, would that help people's view of Israel if they said, hey, we want to be self reliant? Absolutely.” “We're now gonna decouple over the next five years and and basically transition.” “319,000,000,000 being sent to Israel over all these years, that's comparable to the amount we've sent to Ukraine.” “I believe Israel has a right to exist. I believe that they are the only state in that region with the right to exist.” “But why are we treating them differently than any other ally? Should we not be judging them, holding them to the same standard?” “Do you find it persuasive when the Israeli tourism board is bragging about how many gay pride parades they have in Tel Aviv?” “No.”

Netanyahu immediately weighed in with prayers about Charlie Kirk just minutes after he was killed. It was eerie. His body was still warm, and Netanyahu was beginning to claim Charlie Kirk's legacy. "Israel requires American Christian, mostly conservative men to fight the war of Armageddon that Netanyahu wants against Iran." Kirk, a conservative asset, was moving away from Netanyahu and privately despised him under Zionist donor pressure. The Grey Zone exposed a secret Hamptons influencer summit. Candace Owens later revealed more. Netanyahu released a video: "I did not kill Charlie Kirk. I never accused him of killing Charlie Kirk." The talk covers DEI funding via the Tikva Fund and a push to buy TikTok to suppress Palestine content, led by Larry Ellison’s network. Antifa designated as a terrorist organization; media consolidation and regional tensions involving Turkey, Syria, Qatar; Egypt’s red line on Gaza, Rafah.

- How did these guys not know this was taking place? The whole country is a fortress. - I've been to that Gaza border. You you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR 15 or an automatic machine gun that's an IDF soldier. The whole country is surveilled. - The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. - Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. - When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's forty five minutes. - They're live streaming the killing of Jews. - Was did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate, non conspiracy question.

Speaker 0: In February and March 2026, I'll be back on the road in Hull, Gateshead, Derby, and Colchester. 2026 is when they want to cross the line as fast as they can into an AI controlled humanity. We stand up now or we regret it forever. That's four dates. Speaker 0: I recorded an edition of a show for iconic.com called Legacy, relating the content of my books to today. A central concept is what I labeled in the 1990s as problem reaction solution, also known as a false flag. The idea is to create a situation—war, terrorist attack, banking collapse, or something similar—then present the version of the problem you want the public to believe to provoke outrage and urgency. Then you covertly create the problem, evoke a public reaction, and openly offer the solutions you’ve already prepared. Speaker 0: Nine-Eleven is given as a classic example: attack on New York and Washington, blame Arab terrorists, claim Osama bin Laden and the Taliban orchestrated it. The reaction is “do something,” followed by the invasions of Afghanistan and other Middle Eastern countries. In response to Bondi Beach, the point is made that representatives may not truly represent the people, and a global network I call the global cult drives dystopia through digital AI means, operating through governments, intelligence agencies, and militaries worldwide. Even leaders such as presidents or prime ministers may not serve their nations’ people but the global cult’s interests. Speaker 0: One center of this global cult’s operations is Israel, established in 1948 for that purpose. The claim is that leadership claiming to represent Jewish people operates for the global cult rather than Jewish communities, and may even sacrifice Jewish lives to advance its aims through problem reaction solution. The Gaza crisis since October 7 is described as the world’s large-scale trauma, with statements about the Israeli government’s psychopathy and a super psychopathology characterized by a complete lack of empathy and deletion of compassion. The question is whether such leaders can truly have compassion for fellow Jews if they are driven by a broader agenda. Speaker 0: Regarding October 7, the Gaza border fence is described as the world’s most defended border, with sensors so sensitive that even a small animal would be detected. Yet Hamas breached the fence in multiple places, and there were reports of a stand-down by the Israeli defense forces, allowing the cross-border assault and hostage-taking. The outcome, it’s claimed, was used by Netanyahu to justify mass slaughter and destruction in Gaza, with talk of plans to take over land and expel Palestinians. The narrative then shifts to global perception, with some Christian Zionists wavering in support due to Gaza atrocities, and Israel allegedly funding influence campaigns to restore its global image, including money to American politicians and media interests. Speaker 0: When a new attack—Bondi Beach in Australia—occurs, Netanyahu publicly notes a Jewish man disarmed one of the attackers (though a Muslim did so), before retracting. This is presented as part of a pattern: calls to crack down on anti-Semitism, equating anti-Semitism with criticism of Israel and Zionism. The claim is that the only beneficiary is those who use such events to justify censorship and control of information, while the victims, including Jewish people who died or were injured, gain nothing. Speaker 0: The discussion reiterates that mind-control techniques exist and could drive individuals to commit mass violence without full awareness, referencing mind-control concepts like Manchurian candidates. The speaker urges asking “who benefits?” and considering elements of problem reaction solution and false flags in analyzing events, recognizing that appearances of representation do not guarantee genuine representation. For readers interested in more, the speaker directs to their books and content.

- "Charlie Kirk is the pro Zionist guy." - "What if they were listening in to him and he was in communications with people saying, hey. I think I'm gonna go this direction and they knew his intentions or saw this pattern." - "Here's this pro Zionist guy with this incredibly powerful platform that they built, by the way, that Charlie has, thanks to them." - "So if he's gonna take what they gave him and turn it against them, that could literally destroy Israel because the youth is people they're most concerned about." - "We can't let him turn." - "Israel was never my top suspect until, you know, I've spent twenty four hours thinking about it, I'm like, it's not unreasonable. It's not even out of the question in terms of would Israel do this." - "it's in their wheelhouse."

Speaker 0 outlines 'the brilliance of Candace Owens' and says she 'literally smoking them out' with a video claim: 'forty eight hours prior to Charlie's death, Charlie Kirk notified Turning Point USA Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to completely abandon the pro Israel cause outright.' The narrative cites a '$150,000,000 offer from Benjamin Netanyahu' to Turning Point USA 'to shield for Israel harder, and in particular to support regime change in Iran and to support their ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.' Kirk allegedly refused. They allege Bree Lynn Hollyhan appeared on Fox News and that Turning Point is 'rebranding as our new Charlie Kirk' with 'ultra mega.' They declare 'Charlie did not die pro Israel.' The piece ends with 'Checkmate motherfuckers.'

October 7 is where history changed, where the Palestinians stood up and said no more. "To pretend that suddenly October 7 is where it all begins is ludicrous. Israel was bombing Hezbollah well before this. Israel was blowing up Iranian scientists well before this." "Israel is in itself a criminal enterprise. You can't commit a crime against a criminal enterprise. And we're funding them. We own them. We fund them." "parasites have taken over our body. They own us now. They're running Congress. They're running the presidency. They run the media." "In 1948, the CIA began a relationship with the organization of Ukrainian Nationalists at Stepan Banderas' murderous Nazi allies that continues to this day, to undermine the Soviet Union, funded by the CIA." "We support murderers in Ukraine. We support murderers in Israel. We have done so from the very beginning."

Charlie Kirk openly questioned the story Israel was telling the world about October 7: “Think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don't believe it.” The report notes Israel asked Qatar to support Hamas in 2018; Netanyahu sent a secret letter urging Qatar to deliver $30,000,000 a month to Gaza. “Qatar just gifted The United States a $400,000,000 jet.” It cites Jared Moskowitz on foreign influence operations and reports a foreign country signed a $45,000,000 deal with Google to spread propaganda. “Israel.” It mentions “the f 35” and that “Qatar has US Patriot missile batteries.” Mike Johnson reportedly discussed screening candidates for alignment with Israeli policies; when asked, he replied, “no.” “Those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed.” Qatar is an ally with a US base; Netanyahu wants forever wars in the Middle East; “they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza.”

Speaker 0 asserts that Netanyahu was continually helping Hamas to survive. Speaker 1 claims that while Netanyahu was under investigation, he arranged for Hamas to receive $35,000,000 every month from Qatar. Speaker 2 contends that Netanyahu cannot give the money himself because Israel would not give money to Hamas, and banks would not cooperate, so Netanyahu must beg Qatar, a small but very rich country, to provide money to their enemy. Speaker 0 contends that these suitcases of money were given to Hamas at the personal request of Benjamin Netanyahu, and that because the Qatari side knew him from the beginning, they asked him to send their requests in writing because they believed he would lie in the future. Speaker 1 asserts that Netanyahu allowed more than $1,000,000,000 to be transferred to the hands of Hamas because he believed he could control the level of hatred, and states that this notion is nonsense, adding that he cannot control the flames.

"They said come to Israel, meet with me. Charlie Kirk said no. Now he's dead." "Bill Ackman is a Wall Street Jewish billionaire." "after October 7, Bill Ackman shifted to the right. He put a million dollars behind Trump and became very active in Republican politics even though he's a lifelong Democrat." "When the FBI could not locate the alleged gunman on Wednesday, do you know who stepped up and offered a $1,000,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of Charlie Kirk's assassin? Bill Ackman." "the $1,000,000 will be paid out to the alleged killer's father." "Tyler Robinson was allegedly turned into law enforcement by his father." "I see a bit of a conflict of interest there." "That needs to be investigated."

Charlie Kirk was offered an infusion of $150,000,000 by Israel. Netanyahu offered Turning Point USA $150,000,000 for one purpose only, to shill for Israel harder. Turning Point USA has a budget of $140,000,000 and is pro-Israel. Israel offered him a $150,000,000 to be more pro Israel than they were, to be harder in their support for Israel, and in particular, to support regime change in Iran and to support their ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza. Charlie Kirk refused the money. I have confirmed that from four people I trust. Candice Owens, a friend of Charlie Kirk, and Max Blumenthal, who purports to have a source, corroborate. After Kirk refused, Netanyahu asked him to visit Jerusalem for a 'reeducation tour,' including the Holocaust Museum, the burned babies, the beheaded babies, and more; he refused that as well. They offered to bribe him and to reeducate him; he refused both offers.

The discussion centers on whether Netanyahu's government is in serious trouble and what recent developments suggest about Israeli politics and the Gaza situation. - Protests and public sentiment in Israel: Proponents point to large weekly protests in Tel Aviv against Netanyahu, noting claims of “massive protests” that have drawn thousands, with some saying a quarter of a million previously. The speakers emphasize that demonstrations before October 7 indicated substantial opposition to Netanyahu, including calls for a commission of inquiry into corruption and judicial overreach. They also acknowledge a shift after October 7, with Netanyahu attempting to build a coalition and currently holding about 65 of 120 seats, suggesting he remains in power. One speaker asserts that protests are used politically, while acknowledging their scale in the center of Israel. - Netanyahu’s political standing and coalition: The speakers describe Netanyahu as facing multiple felony charges related to corruption and note his history of coalition-building with smaller parties. They argue that war and conflict are used domestically to unite the population and distract from corruption allegations. They suggest Netanyahu’s government is the most extreme right-wing in Israel’s history, with two cabinet ministers having felony convictions for anti-Arab hate crimes and holding key security and finance roles. The prognosis offered is that Netanyahu is not likely to be removed from power soon, potentially leading through 2030. - Funds to Hamas via Qatar before October 7: A new report from the Tel Aviv newspaper Idiot “Iranath” states that Israel asked Qatar to increase funds transferred to Hamas in Gaza less than a month before October 7. The claim is that Netanyahu-era officials knew the money would enable Hamas to divert funds to arms and military preparedness, and that Hamas was exploiting Qatar’s civilian aid to strengthen its military capabilities. The discussion emphasizes that Israel funds Hamas indirectly through Qatar, and that nothing entering Gaza happens without Israeli knowledge or approval. - Stand-down orders and the October 7 attack: The conversation discusses Israeli stand-down orders and the protests among IDF soldiers about the events of October 7. There is an assertion that some young women in IDF outposts were put at risk, with questions about what the government knew and whether it allowed certain actions. The speakers describe a view that the Israeli military and political leadership may have been complicit or negligent regarding operations on October 7, including claims about attempted obfuscation of investigations and the Hannibal directive. - CIA, John Kiriakou, and past U.S. behavior: The dialogue references CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, noting his exposure of the Bush torture program and contrasting U.S. actions with Israeli policies. John Kiriakou comments on his experiences in the Middle East, including an anecdote about discussions in Riyadh in 1991 regarding Gaza’s infrastructure, and he asserts that Netanyahu’s government is deeply integrated with actions surrounding Hamas. - Prospects for accountability and investigations: The speakers express strong doubt about a credible investigation into October 7, arguing that Israel is in “survival mode” and that Netanyahu will not be imprisoned. They describe proposed commission arrangements as potentially whitewashing, with Netanyahu seeking to appoint some members himself, and they predict that the investigation is unlikely to be thorough or independent. - Summary stance: The discussion presents Netanyahu as politically resilient despite corruption charges, with a broad right-wing coalition and ongoing protests. It underscores the interconnections between Israeli funding structures for Hamas through Qatar, the alleged stand-downs surrounding October 7, and perceived obstacles to a transparent, independent accountability process.

Speaker asserts that 'Israel killed Charlie Kirk' and rejects influencer denials. They claim a plane 'left the airport... for forty five minutes' and then headed away, 'owned it? A big time rich Jewish donor.' Benjamin Netanyahu is described as nervous, with 'No. No. We didn't do this.' It was 'the Islamist, the extremist, just like he did nine eleven.' They add 'Guess who did nine eleven?' Benjamin Netanyahu. The shooter claim: 'the rifle was in his pants' and 'the scope back on' after; 'the gun they planted... was not the gun' and 'the scope was mounted too far back to even shoot it.' They call the shooter a 'professional shooter' hired by Israel at '140 yards.' 'Candice Owens said that on her show.' The speaker argues Kirk was waking up to these things and was afraid Israel would kill him, and they did.

The speaker describes meeting with prime minister Netanyahu as part of a Christian conservative Gen Z focus group, noting that Netanyahu listened attentively and heard their concerns. "APAC is not an Israeli organization. It has no ties whatsoever to the government of Israel. It's not foreign lobbying." "APAC, like, makes up less than 5% of the lobbying." "Israel is not offering to fund anybody. They're not trying to get involved in American political advocacy groups. That has never happened." "If you're about this, who you should be concerned about is Qatar because they are doing this." "Many of these protests slash riots that you see destroying our cities, a lot of that has foreign funding from Qatar." "Netanyahu's first address to congress was to say that they didn't want aid."

"Nothing concentrates the mind like the prospect of being hanged." "The corruption trial became a dominant factor in his decision making." "The engine is the corruption cases." "After the catastrophe of the October 7, the war became another instrument to stay in power." "A forever war is beneficial to Netanyahu." "The prime minister and his wife, Sarah, are getting gifts worth a quarter of million dollars." "Arnold Milchen has an access to the prime minister where other people don't get this access." "The felony that Netanyahu is indicted in is called breach of trust." "Netanyahu arranged for Hamas to receive $35,000,000 every month from Qatar." "The hostages must come home." "Total victory over Hamas." "Death toll inside Gaza now surpasses 15,000 Palestinians."

Charlie Kirk was offered an infusion of $150,000,000 by Israel to double Turning Point USA's budget; Turning Point USA has an annual budget of a $140,000,000. Netanyahu offered Turning Point $150,000,000 for one purpose and one purpose only, to shill for Israel harder. Israel offered him a $150,000,000 to be more pro Israel than they already were, to be harder in their support for Israel, and in particular, to support regime change in Iran and to support their ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza. Charlie Kirk refused the money. I have independently confirmed this by four people in the know; Candice Owens, a friend of Charlie Kirk; Max Blumenthal who purports to have a source. After Kirk refused, Netanyahu asked if he would come visit Jerusalem and give him the reeducation tour, the Holocaust Museum, the burned babies, the beheaded babies, the one Elon Musk took, the one our speaker of the house took; he refused that as well. They offered to bribe him. They tried to reeducate him. He refused both offers.

So first of all, I have to ask you, how did we reach a situation that prime minister Netanyahu needs to clarify today that Israel was not involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk? Because there are some people in The United States that have lost their minds. This is a blood libel. It's absolutely disgusting and, vicious. The level of untruth is such that it's hard even to think that you have to defend it, that you have to repudiate it. But there are people who will believe the most outrageous lies, and I guess we should learn from history that this is not something new. Where does this stop? And it's really, really disgusting, but I'm very glad the prime minister addressed it. Charlie Kirk was a true friend of Israel. True friend of mine. I've known Charlie since he was 19. A brilliant, brilliant young man.

Over at the Patriot Prayer Network did a nice little compilation of my interview with Tim Pool... this literally twenty minute compilation which would blow your mind. Right now, Gen Z support for Israel is 24%. Charlie Kirk has been holding meetings to convince Gen Z influencers to support Israel. In 2018, Netanyahu himself sent a secret letter to the Qatari leadership. In that letter, he urged Qatar to deliver $30,000,000 a month to Gaza. So in May 2025, Netanyahu publicly admitted that since 2018, his government had allowed Qatar to transfer money to Hamas in Gaza, and that was according to his own request. That policy was approved by the full Israeli security cabinet. So if you believe Netanyahu himself, he went from asking Qatar to send money to Hamas to bombing Qatar for not extraditing Hamas. But the fact is now Bibi and the Israeli hard right government has a mandate I gotta be careful the way I say this. To they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Yep. I mean, that that's and I'm I don't use that term lightly. Israel is losing support at a tremendous rate among the young generation. Ackman ... had this meeting to basically bully Charlie Kirk into submission. Charlie Kirk walked away, refused offers of funding and also refused the offer to travel to Israel and meet with Netanyahu. From Aramov, he says Turkey took out Charlie because he spoke against Islam. Israel killed their greatest advocate among Gen Z.

Claim: Charlie Kirk was offered an infusion of $150,000,000 by Israel to double Turning Point USA's budget (TPUSA annual budget $140,000,000). The offer was 'for one purpose and one purpose only to shill for Israel harder,' specifically to 'support regime change in Iran and to support their ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.' Kirk allegedly refused the money. Four trusted sources—Candice Owens and Max Blumenthal among them—report the offer, with others independently confirming. After the rejection, Netanyahu allegedly asked him to visit Jerusalem for a 'reeducation tour,' including 'the Holocaust Museum, the burned babies, the beheaded babies,' 'the one that Elon Musk took, the one that our speaker of the house took,' anyone that's ever criticized Israel has been subjected to; Kirk refused that as well. They offered to bribe him. They tried to reeducate him. He refused both offers.

Speaker 0 asserts that “What happened in October 7 was an Israeli setup,” and questions whether Benjamin Netanyahu deliberately boosted Hamas to prevent a Palestinian state. The question is framed as a direct challenge: “Yeah. Sure. He deliberately and systematically even even told this on record. Whoever wants to avoid the threat of a two state solution has to support my policy of paying protection money to the Hamas.” The removal of ambiguity is emphasized by the speaker’s phrasing that this was done “with the permission of our prime minister” and involved letting Qatar transfer a huge amount of money in cash, “probably more than $1,400,000,000,” with the claimed effect of increasing Hamas’s power. Speaker 0 then shifts to interrogate a separate line of inquiry, asking whether there was a “stand down order,” repeating the question: “Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don’t believe it.” The speaker emphasizes realism by labeling the question as legitimate and non-conspiratorial: “Was did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non conspiracy question.” The closing remark asserts a collective identity and responsibility: “The whole country is the IDF. The whole country is.”