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Children are not affected by this virus, according to a researcher. Only 226 children have died in a year, and not all of them were due to COVID. The speaker accuses Anthony of planning genocide by vaccinating the masses and demands that he stop.

Estimates of deaths from the jab range from 500,000 to 17 million worldwide. The speaker claims even the low-end estimate exceeds the 457,000 U.S. deaths in World War II. The speaker alleges COVID is a bioweapons program spanning 75 years. They state SV40, which is not on any of the FDA's papers, contains 60 billion copies of DNA plasmids and SV40 promoter. The speaker asks if it's ethical for a doctor to inject that into a human being, and the other person says that if that were true, it would not be ethical. The speaker asserts more people have died in the last four years than in any world war the U.S. has been involved with.

The speaker claims the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of lives but acknowledges side effects and breakthrough infections. The speaker argues that the vaccine was claimed to stop transmission and infection, but it did not. An argument ensues with someone who disagrees, with accusations of being crazy and shutting up. The speaker denies using ad hominem attacks.

Some studies suggest that those who refuse vaccines may have caused 2 to 300000 extra deaths in the country. Thank you for your efforts in saving lives despite facing criticism.

The speaker claims that in Pfizer's initial vaccine trial with 20,000 vaccinated and 20,000 unvaccinated participants, the vaccinated group had 23% more deaths from all causes than the placebo group after six months. The speaker states that the claim of 100% vaccine efficacy was based on the fact that two people in the placebo group died from COVID versus one person in the vaccine group. The speaker asserts that people believed the vaccine would prevent them from getting COVID, which they now realize is false.

The transcript alleges that multiple senior FDA officials, not just Peter Marks, are “complicit.” It claims American people believed these officials, and that each day the officials lie “compounding the lie day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year.” It says this makes honesty “less likely” over time. The speaker then references a member of Congress who “cut videos” tied to “the jab,” arguing the videos would “end the pandemic.” The transcript asserts that the advocacy for the injections “killed people” and “permanently disabled them,” adding that doctors, federal health officials, and Stephen Colbert “wouldn’t want to do that.” The speaker describes what they call a “global state of denial,” saying other governments relied on federal health officials and “forced it down there,” with administration mandates requiring the injections “in complete violation” of the Nuremberg Code, which the speaker frames as prohibiting forcing medical treatment. The transcript claims that people died as a result. It contrasts political claims about the pandemic, saying Biden blamed “the pandemic of the unvaccinated” while “losing patients,” and then asserting, “Now we’re losing patients too.” The speaker says the central issue is that “your injection didn’t stop transmission” and that “your injection killed people” and “permanently disabled people.”

People glaze over when the possibility that "these things" caused problems is raised. Some confidently state the COVID vaccine saved millions of lives, but it's unclear how they know this. Many people know others who were negatively affected by the vaccine but don't want to admit it, claiming correlation isn't causation. The news scared people with death tolls, and there's a lot of money involved, including huge bonuses for fully vaccinated kids. Instead of attacking those who say this, it should be investigated as a potential conflict of interest.

Speaker 0 asserts that there is a new leading cause of death and disease in almost every country worldwide, with the exception of regions that have not taken the shot as aggressively—specifically mentioning Africa and a few Eastern European countries like Bulgaria and Latvia as the only places where death is less than expected. He states that since COVID and the vaccines, there has been an excess mortality of six percent, describing it as dramatic. He argues that if governments were legitimate, and they perceived a six percent excess mortality, they would come together to address it, rather than collaborate in a “scam on the population with the coronavirus operation,” which he claims was funded under the previous administration. He mentions Anthony Fauci in connection with this sentiment, describing Fauci in a way that aligns with the view that the response to the pandemic included a push for vaccination and other measures. The speaker then references Paul Alexander, described as an epidemiologist from Canada who was hired by Trump as an adviser. He asserts that Alexander “gave Trump very different advice” from what he characterizes as the prevailing or leg-based approach, which included opposition to lockdowns and other interventions. The speaker paraphrases Alexander’s alleged guidance as: don’t lock down the population, don’t put diapers on people’s faces, don’t try to vaccinate Rio of the pandemic, calling these positions insane. He also says, “Oh, and by the way, it’s not really a pandemic.” Regarding personal connections, he notes: “I haven’t met Donald Trump myself personally. I cannot give you any personal feedback on my friend Paul Hess and he said, he’s a good man and he was due by Fauci,” adding a brief, non-specific personal comment about Paul Hess, and promising a bit of feedback on that matter.

The speaker claims that the COVID vaccine is toxic and could have caused the deaths of 17 million people worldwide. They suggest that there is a temporary increase in all-cause mortality following vaccine rollouts, which is consistent across different countries. Another speaker points out that normally, deaths decrease in the summer, but during the vaccine campaign, there are spikes in mortality, even in the Southern Hemisphere where it should be low. They mention that this pattern is seen during booster rollouts as well. This phenomenon is described as unprecedented.

The organized anti-vaccine movement significantly influenced public perception of the COVID vaccine, leading to an estimated 200,000 unnecessary deaths in the U.S. due to vaccine refusal. This movement targeted individuals and spread misinformation about vaccine safety. In contrast, our low-cost COVID vaccine, developed without a patent, successfully reached 100 million people, particularly in India and Indonesia. However, the primary responsibility for vaccine hesitancy still lies with the organized anti-vaccine efforts.

I testified in the US Senate on December 7, 2022, stating that the vaccine is causing a significant number of deaths. The vaccine fulfills the criteria for causality according to the Bradford Hill tenets. As of December 23, 2022, the CDC reported over 6,000 Americans who died shortly after receiving the vaccine, but this number is likely underestimated.

In the Pfizer trial, more people died who received the vaccine than the placebo. The clinical trial showed one life could be saved from COVID for every 22,000 people vaccinated. However, more people died in the trial from the vaccine itself. While vaccines may have saved 10,000 lives in a year, at least 150,000 people have been killed by the vaccine, according to VAERS data. The speaker claims that 150,000 deaths is the cost of saving 10,000 lives, and that the risk benefit is even worse for kids, where 117 kids are killed to save one life. Doctors are allegedly not allowed to talk about deaths caused by the vaccine.

The speaker claims that the vaccine is toxic and could have caused the deaths of 17 million people worldwide. They argue that after each vaccine rollout, there is a temporary increase in overall mortality. This pattern is observed consistently across countries with sufficient data. Another speaker points out that typically, deaths decrease in the summer and increase in the winter, but during the COVID vaccine campaign, there are spikes in mortality right after the campaigns, even in the summer. They mention that this pattern is seen in both the northern and southern hemispheres. The speakers emphasize that this is a new phenomenon.

Speaker 0 asks about a report and how concerning it is, suggesting that if the reported figure is 10, there is a “real number” that could be higher. Speaker 1 says the main concern is that the analysis “dramatically understates the problem.” They describe the difficulty of getting autopsies during the pandemic and say medical professors didn’t want to perform them, resulting in very few autopsies. They state that NIH/CDC/FDA reviewed 96 pediatric autopsies and concluded about 10 were possible or probable. Speaker 1 then argues that safety signals were “screaming,” and points to VAERS. They claim there are almost 1.7 million total adverse events and 39,000 deaths worldwide. They say 24% of the 39,000 deaths occurred on the day of vaccination or within one or two days. Speaker 1 also references the point that VAERS doesn’t prove causation, while stating that if a person who was “perfectly healthy” died that day or within one or two days, they would “be blaming” the jab. They add that in some cases people may have been in bad health already, with death tipped over by another cause. Speaker 1 says the “bigger revelation,” which they claim was unveiled three weeks ago and is “still not being covered by the mainstream media,” involves FDA’s VAERS algorithm. They state that on 03/01/2021, Peter Marks (head of CBER/FDA’s division approving vaccines and surveilling post-approval safety) was briefed that their algorithm analyzing VAERS would “hide and mask safety signals.” They say that 26 days later, a new algorithm unmasked safety signals, producing 49 cases of extreme masking revealed and 25 safety signals, including sudden cardiac death, pulmonary infarction, Bell’s palsy, and different types of strokes. They claim that similar data runs over the next three months showed more safety signals and more sudden death. Speaker 1 further claims that FDA did not “pin a badge” on Anna Scharzman, referred to as the father of their expert, and instead “shunned her off to the side,” ordered her to cease and desist, and decided to use the algorithm they had been warned would hide safety signals, which they say is still being used. Speaker 1 states that Peter Marks left for Eli Lilly and claims “the entire world” is in denial. They say they have been unable to broadcast the story or get interviews on CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, MSNBC, or CNN, and that they challenged Jake Tapper, who they say agreed to read the report but has not invited them back yet.

A study using VAERS adjusted data and other data derived from MIT and the Florida Department of Health found a conservative range of 470,000 to 676,000 American deaths from the COVID-19 mRNA shots. The speaker states that Pfizer alone likely killed over 470,000 Americans, which is more than World War I, World War II, and Vietnam combined, if true. The study found a 36% increase in all-cause mortality among Pfizer recipients versus Moderna.

The speakers discuss a broad denial about vaccine injuries and the idea that, despite evidence, the medical establishment and political figures push the narrative that vaccines are safe and effective. They claim that many people who are vaccinated want to move on and avoid acknowledging serious side effects, including turbo cancers, undetected myocarditis, and neurological issues, and that autoimmune disease is being attributed to other causes. They argue that the medical establishment, federal health agencies, and some members of Congress who produce supportive content, such as segments like Steve Colbert’s, advocate for taking the shot. They question how many people were killed or died from the shot, asserting that Bayer’s data shows “close[ly]” to thirty-nine thousand worldwide, and that if only ten percent are reported, the true number would be in the hundreds of thousands. They claim there are millions of adverse events, but that this is denied and covered up. The speakers contend that the shot was not a real vaccine. They describe it as gene therapy rather than a traditional vaccine. They explain a sequence in which a vaccine is typically an attenuated or killed virus that requires adjuvants like aluminum or mercury to stimulate the immune system, because the attenuated or killed virus may not work well on its own. In contrast, they say this shot is mRNA, which is modified so it does not degrade. They describe how it is put into a lipid nanoparticle designed to permeate barriers like the blood-brain barrier, and they assert it would never stay in the arm, distributing all over the body. They claim the lipid nanoparticle allows the mRNA to enter cells, hijack cellular structures, and cause the cells to express spike protein, which the body then attacks as foreign. When asked who is responsible, they reference a “doctor Frankenstein” figure and name Francis Collins, head of the NIH, and Anthony Fauci as possible figures in question. The response indicates that while they consider all of them criminally liable, they would say it is primarily Fauci, with acknowledgment that people like Collins are implicated as well.

Vaccine makers face the challenge of misinformation. The speaker believes those who deliberately spread misinformation are criminals because they cost lives. They shared a personal story of their wife's death after getting the vaccine, which was falsely attributed to it. The purpose of spreading such lies was to discourage people from getting vaccinated. The speaker emphasizes that the number of people who died due to not getting vaccinated far outweighs the individual cases like their wife's. Therefore, they consider those spreading misinformation to be criminals.

The speaker believes the population was primed to fear a barely studied vaccine, leading to a reckless drug rollout that would create another wave. They claim the vaccine has likely killed more people than the virus itself. Referencing "John's work," the speaker alleges the vaccine has caused at least 550,000 deaths in the United States. They suggest that reported COVID-19 deaths are inflated due to comorbidities and iatrogenic deaths, estimating the true virus death toll to be a tenth of what is claimed and far less than vaccine deaths.

The discussion centers on COVID-19 misinformation and the roles of public figures and disinformation spreaders. Speaker 0 questions whether doctor Fauci is involved in a plot to kill millions. Speaker 1 says he cannot confirm involvement but asserts Fauci is not an innocent bystander and is aware of his actions; he doesn’t have the information to determine the extent of Fauci’s involvement. Speaker 2 identifies Dr. Dirashid Bhattar as one of the top spreaders of COVID-19 disinformation on social media, citing the Center for Countering Digital Hate, noting Bhattar once had more than a million followers. The dialogue includes several false or debunked claims attributed to Bhattar. Speaker 1 states that “More people are dying from the COVID vaccine than from COVID,” a claim Speaker 2 labels as not true, along with Bhattar’s assertion that “the Red Cross won’t accept blood from people who have had the COVID vaccine,” and his claim that “most who took COVID vaccines will be dead by 2025.” Bhattar’s broader theory is that COVID was a planned operation, politically motivated as part of a secret global plot to depopulate the earth. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes the pandemic was planned; Speaker 1 responds affirmatively but says he has no idea who is behind it. Speaker 2 warns that praising or repeating Bhattar’s views is dangerous, noting Bhattar’s use of false or twisted information to distrust vaccines. The conversation touches on whether the COVID vaccine works; Speaker 1 says the vaccine is “very effective at what it was designed for perhaps,” but “not preventing death.” Speaker 0 challenges this, and Speaker 2 counters that Bhattar doubles down on vaccines being more dangerous than the virus, even in the face of data. A numerical claim is raised: “6,340,000,000 doses of this vaccine have been given,” with implications if the claim were true. Speaker 1 says vaccines are designed with ingredients published and that each vaccine appears to be different, though he concedes not being a vaccine developer. Speaker 2 notes Bhattar has been removed from Facebook and Instagram for disinformation but remains active on Twitter, Telegram, and his own site. Speaker 0 references a September 5 retweet of a photo suggesting AstraZeneca was made in 2018; Speaker 1 acknowledges it could have been fake and questions why Bhattar would share such content. A combined exchange discusses questioning agencies and the consequences of misinformation, with Speaker 0 accusing Bhattar of contributing to a mass misinformation problem and Speaker 1 acknowledging the existence of a large follower base that has received false information. The dialogue closes with a mention of a statement from North Carolina’s Board of Medicine prior to COVID, implying regulatory context or action.

I recently testified in the US Senate on December 7th, 2022. I want to be very clear: the vaccine is killing people, and it's killing large numbers of people. It fulfills all the criteria for the Bradford Hill tenets of causality for a medicinal product causing death. As of December 23rd, 2022, the CDC has recorded over sixteen thousand Americans that have died within a few days of taking the vaccine, and that's probably a gross underreport. I was recently at a conference in Romania on the COVID crisis. There was a lot of work trying to unpack what we actually understand, and I saw a credible estimate of something like seventeen million deaths globally from this technology. When you scale up to billions, it's not hard to reach a number like that with a technology this dangerous.

Dr. McCulloch is asked to weigh in. Speaker 1 responds that he has presented at FDA advisory meetings and advised companies for decades on regulatory science. He states that when a product definitely results in death, and there are thousands of peer-reviewed papers on this, the COVID vaccines in some people sadly result in death—some on the very first day they take the shot. He argues that this must be a black box warning on the product immediately. He says he checked the package inserts for the currently available products, noting that the ones Senator Blumenthal wants to pursue, and what the Governor still wants to pursue, and what the FDA still wants administered, do not have the word “death” in the package insert. He asserts that Americans are not fairly informed. Speaker 0 asks whether Speaker 1 doubts that the COVID injection caused some deaths, and asks for his view on the numbers listed on VAERS (thirty-seven thousand, six hundred seven, per the prompt) and whether he has any science to back up his opinion. Speaker 1 replies that the best data are autopsies. He references the largest autopsy series published to date and notes that he is the senior author. He says they examined deaths after vaccination, had an adjudication committee and methods of arbitration to decide whether the vaccine caused death, and that in these autopsy cases, seventy-three point nine percent of individuals, it was determined that the vaccine was the cause of death. He mentions Holsher and colleagues, who are right behind him. Speaker 0 reiterates the FDA’s own laws, asking that this be included in the package insert, correct? Speaker 1 confirms, noting that in 2021 Dr. Carol Tocetta, working with the Daily Cloud, wrote about Peters’ marks in 2023 and asked, “where’s the black box warning? Where is it?”

Worldwide, the death toll from the COVID vaccine is estimated to be over 13 million, possibly even 17 million. The speaker agrees with this estimate. They praise an interview with Brett Weinstein and agree with his points. The conversation then shifts to questioning how governments can ignore the deaths of over 10 million people and not take responsibility or make amends. This raises philosophical questions about accountability and morality.

Some studies suggest that people who refuse to get vaccinated may be responsible for 2 to 300,000 additional deaths in the country. Thank you to the team for their efforts in saving lives, despite facing attacks.

The speaker questions the source of the claim that 20 million lives have been saved. They ask for data and studies to support this number. The response is indirect and the meeting is about to end when the speaker jumps back in to clarify that the 20 million lives saved refers to all vaccines, not just mRNA vaccines. The speaker is unable to ask for further clarification. They find it suspicious that this number is being thrown around without proper explanation. They suggest that these numbers are made up.

The speaker claims that data from the New Zealand Ministry of Health shows vaccines have killed 675,000 people in America and 13 million worldwide. This contradicts the FDA and CDC's safety claims. The data, from one-third of New Zealand's vaccination records, allegedly proves vaccines are not safe. Gaslighting is mentioned as a tactic to mislead people about the data's true meaning.