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There's support for clearing government waste on both sides, but also concern about the access Musk and Doge staffers have to sensitive data, especially given Musk's investments with China. As a congressman, I can say that the IRS has been a nightmare. When I write letters of concern for my constituents, it takes up to six months to get a response. The IRS has hundreds of groups with access to sensitive information, yet there were no complaints. Now that Elon Musk is involved and potentially making changes, suddenly everyone is upset. If you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to be asking questions. Congressmen will be in trouble when this paper trail leads back to them.

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An individual stated they have not heard from the IRS after speaking out, but prior to doing so, they heard that people within the IRS were nervous about their plans to speak publicly, as it is strongly discouraged. They describe the IRS's IDRS system as antiquated and question who benefits from it remaining an analog system from the 1960s. They ask anyone with information about why the system hasn't been updated to contact them, suggesting this reason is why changes haven't occurred. They express hope for future changes.

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As a policy advisor for the Treasury, I work on national security risks, monitoring investments into the US. Recently, Doge gained access to the Treasury to cut waste. I think we're an easy target, and there are people here who don't do much. My colleagues and I are worried about Doge and potential firings. What Elon is doing feels like government-sanctioned harassment. People here think it's not going to fire the right people, it's going to fire the wrong people. Many of us in my office are worried about being fired, especially the new hires. Some people care more about money than the country. I also feel that Doge shouldn't have access to the Treasury due to national security risks. No one knows what they want to do with the system. Giving people access to information creates vulnerabilities.

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Sam Korkos, a special advisor within the US Treasury, and Treasury Secretary Scott Vessant, discuss modernizing the IRS. Korkos is reviewing the IRS's modernization program, which is 30 years behind schedule and $15 billion over budget. The goal is to update the IRS's legacy infrastructure, which still uses old mainframes. Korkos says the IRS has talented software developers, but they haven't been empowered to make decisions. Vessant says entrenched interests and consultants have constricted themselves around the IRS, costing taxpayers unbelievable amounts of money. Korkos notes the IRS processes the same amount of data as a mid-sized bank, but with far more IT staff and a much larger budget, 80% of which goes to contractors and licenses. Vessant says his priorities for the IRS are collections, privacy, and customer service, none of which are being well served. Korkos has stopped work and cut about $1.5 billion from the modernization budget. He says the career staff has been cooperative. Vessant wants the American people to understand what is being done to make government work better, cheaper, faster, and with more privacy.

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The IRS has been using AI to access American citizens' bank accounts without warrants. They claim to have access to everyone's accounts and are willing to go after small taxpayers. Jim Jordan and I demanded answers from the IRS. We need a new administration to protect our civil rights from this lawless surveillance.

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Concerns exist regarding the Doge team's access to sensitive payment systems. The team, comprised of two Treasury employees, has read-only access for operational improvements, not system modification. They cannot alter systems; that authority resides with the Federal Reserve. The team has never had the ability to change systems and wouldn't be granted such access. There's no engagement with IRS data, despite the IRS's outdated systems. We haven't blocked any payments, despite Elon Musk's tweet. This program aims for significant cost savings for the American people, a methodical process that shouldn't be misrepresented. We are aligned on cutting waste and increasing accountability and transparency.

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There's support for clearing government waste on both sides of the aisle, but also concern about the access Musk and Doge staffers have to sensitive data, especially given Musk's investments with China and billions from the government. When PayPal was owned by Elon Musk, there were no security breaches. The IRS is a nightmare, with folks not back to work years after COVID. As a Congressman, it takes me up to six months to get a response regarding constituent concerns. The IRS has hundreds of groups with access to sensitive data. People are only complaining now that Elon Musk is involved. The only reason to ask questions is if you're doing something crooked. Congressmen will have red faces when this paper trail leads back to them. People are pitching a fit because Musk is making needed changes.

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There's massive fraud in this country, including foreign nationals using fake social security numbers and identities to steal billions in taxpayer benefits. By clamping down on this fraud in our tax and entitlement systems, we could save over a trillion dollars. Doge are subordinate staffers of the federal government and political appointees that serve and answer to the president. They will analyze and assess for signs and symptoms of fraud and how IT systems are failing to detect it. We need to protect the integrity of these systems that Americans rely on. We are restoring neutrality, ethics, and accountability to the IRS to identify large-scale fraud, unfair politicization, and unfair targeting. We want to ensure confidence in the IRS and that no dollars are being stolen from the American people.

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Before Elon Musk, no one knew about the unnamed bureaucrats in our government. Now, Musk is being scrutinized for the transparency and access he's providing. We're happy to provide the receipts, showing contracts that DOGE found across our government. For example, there's a $36,000 DEI contract for US citizenship and immigration services, and a $3.4 million contract for inclusive innovation at the US Patent and Trademark Office. There's also $57,000 for climate change in Sri Lanka. DOGE is identifying these line items daily and moving very fast. This administration is transparent about what DOGE is doing. We're providing transparency and accessibility daily. We also have a DOGE daily report available with all of their findings, and we're happy to provide this information.

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If Doge targets USAID today, they might go after other agencies tomorrow, like the postal service or the IRS. There's a disconnect in our reactions; Chuck Schumer suggests that if they audit USAID, they could also audit the IRS or postal service. The IRS audits individuals, and there's a fear that your money could be used against them. Has anyone else noticed this?

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My Reagan administration mentors couldn't penetrate bureaucratic obfuscation because they lacked technical expertise. Elon Musk's team gained direct access to tech systems, a first for any administration. They bypassed gatekeepers and uncovered shocking data. We're talking payments to people with duplicate or no social security numbers, totaling up to $100 billion. Funds were also traced to entities like Internews Network, pushing a specific viewpoint globally, and even to protesters worldwide. We're being transparent about it; we accessed the data directly and exposed it. It's only been twenty days, and we're already releasing a lot. People are trying to slow us down, but the main question is can we stop their grift?

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I welcome Elon Musk to come to the briefing room, as he provided great answers and common sense yesterday in the Oval Office regarding Doge. There's no lack of transparency; Doge has an X account, a website posting contracts and stopped payments, making our government efficient. Before, it was unnamed bureaucrats. Now, Musk is under scrutiny for his access, but we're transparent and happy to provide receipts. Here are examples: a DEI contract for US citizenship, a contract for inclusive innovation, and climate change spending in Sri Lanka. These are line items Doge identifies daily. We're providing transparency about Doge's findings, like the Federal Employee Retirement System processing in Pennsylvania. These actions are fraudulent, wasteful, and an abuse of taxpayer dollars, contrary to the President's agenda.

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I work at the Treasury, reviewing investments into the US for national security risks. Recently, Doge gained access to the Treasury to cut waste, but I think we're an easy target. People I know have worked for the government for years and don't do much. Doge shouldn't have access to the Treasury due to national security risks. It's weird because no one knows what they want to do with the system or why they need access to random people's tax information. Giving people this kind of access creates vulnerabilities. They could misuse the information or give it to another country. Elon's actions feel like government-sanctioned harassment. Everyone in my office is worried about getting fired. Some people care more about money than the country.

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I consider myself a humble tech support, and that’s almost a literal description of the work the Doge team is doing to help fix government computer systems. Many of these systems are extremely old and don't communicate, and the software doesn't work. The overall goal is to help address the enormous deficit. We simply cannot sustain $2,000,000,000,000 deficits. The interest on the national debt now exceeds the Defense Department spending. If this continues, the country will become de facto bankrupt. It's not an optional thing; it is essential. If we don't do this, America will go bankrupt. I'm confident that we can find a trillion dollars in savings.

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"AI has access to, like, everybody's bank account?" "Yes." "I doubt it." "They are assholes. Really? They are the definition of an asshole." "The Department of Justice and inspector general." "it's actually the Department of Justice who is currently, quote, controlling the AI used by the IRS." "There's also the Bank Secrecy Act, which examines transactions to detect money laundering and tax evasion." "That draft memo states, quote, to improve accountability for AI issues, agencies must designate a chief AI officer." "The Biden White House issued an executive order, which included some federal limits on the use of artificial intelligence." "Alex Mayna, who works in criminal investigations at the IRS, says that they're currently targeting the National Football League." "So last week, Ladar decided to go after the owners of the NFL teams." "All of them." "Because they they are, like, billionaires, and, like, they pay, like, very little taxes."

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I'd love for Elon Musk to come to the briefing room; that's why we had him in the Oval Office yesterday. Trump and Musk have been incredibly transparent about what Doge is doing. They tweet daily and post receipts of reviewed contracts and stopped payments on their website. Before Musk, it was an unnamed bureaucrat. Now, as a scrutinized figure, Musk is providing access and transparency. We're happy to provide receipts, and I've brought some today: a $36,000 DEI contract for US citizenship and immigration services, a $3.4 million DEI contract for inclusive innovation, and $57,000 for climate change in Sri Lanka. These are the line items Doge is identifying daily. We're happy to show you the paperwork. Here’s a tweet about the Federal Employee Retirement System being processed in a Pennsylvania mine. We are providing transparency and accessibility daily.

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I welcome Elon Musk to the briefing room, as he provided great insights in the Oval Office yesterday, speaking in layman's terms. There is no lack of transparency with Doge. Trump and Musk are transparent about Doge's work, with an active X account and website posting contract receipts and stopped payments. Before Musk, an unnamed bureaucrat handled government efficiency. Musk, now highly scrutinized, provides great access. We're happy to provide receipts and are not hiding anything. Here are screenshots of contracts Doge found, like a $36,000 DEI contract for US citizenship and immigration services, a $3,400,000 DEI contract, and $57,000 for climate change in Sri Lanka. Doge identifies these line items daily. We're transparent about Doge's work, including tweets about the Federal Employee Retirement System in Pennsylvania. We provide daily transparency and accessibility.

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I work for the Treasury, reviewing investments into the US for national security risks. Recently, Doge gained access to the Treasury to cut waste, but people are resisting. They're an easy target because there are people who don't do much, and we should be getting rid of them. What Elon is doing feels like government-sanctioned harassment, and everyone in my office is worried about being fired. No one knows what Doge wants to do with the system or why they need access to certain information. When you give people access, it creates vulnerabilities. They could take that information and give it to someone they shouldn't. There's a class of people in this country who care more about money, and Elon is showing that what he cares about is money.

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My Reagan administration mentors couldn't penetrate bureaucratic obstacles because they lacked technical expertise. Elon Musk's team gained direct access to tech systems, something unprecedented for any president. They bypassed the usual obstruction and uncovered shocking data. They saw payments to individuals with duplicate or missing social security numbers, totaling billions. Money flowed to entities like Internews Network, pushing a left-leaning agenda globally, and even to protesters worldwide. We're being transparent about accessing the data and revealing these findings. Despite facing resistance and attempts to slow us down, we're actively releasing information, and more is coming soon. The real question is whether we will be stopped from continuing this process.

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The speaker asks if Elon Musk starting a new political party worries the Trump administration. The secretary responds that the principles of Doge were very popular, but Elon Musk was not, according to polling. He believes the boards of directors at Musk's companies want him to run those companies, as he is better at that than anything else. The secretary imagines the boards of directors did not like the announcement and will encourage Musk to focus on business activities, not political activities.

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I work for the Treasury, reviewing investments into the U.S. for national security risks, like we initially did with TikTok. My team monitors agreements with companies to ensure they address identified problems. Recently, Doge gained access to the Treasury to cut waste, and I admit we're an easy target. Some colleagues don't do much, and we should get rid of them. What Elon is doing feels like government-sanctioned harassment. Everyone in my office is worried about being fired. There's a class of people who care more about money than the country. Doge shouldn't have access to the Treasury due to national security risks. It's weird; no one knows what they want to do with the system or why they need access to sensitive information. Someone with access could give that information away, even if they're American.

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I had two questions regarding tariff revenue and the IRS. President Trump discussed replacing income tax with tariff revenue to combat waste, fraud, and abuse. The China tariff revenue, estimated between $500 billion and a trillion dollars over ten years, should facilitate the passage of a Republican bill. I also asked about comments regarding cutting $50 billion in waste, fraud, and abuse by unelected bureaucrats. The narrative from the president's critics is that Elon Musk is an unelected bureaucrat. Is one of Doge's objectives to get rid of the federal bureaucracy? The executive power is vested in the president. The existential threat to democracy is the unelected bureaucracy. President Trump is removing federal bureaucrats who defy democracy by failing to implement his lawful orders, which are the will of the whole American people.

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I know people who worked in the Reagan administration. When they asked the bureaucracy questions, they were often blocked and deterred because they weren't technical. Elon Musk's team bypassed this by directly accessing the tech systems. No president has ever done this. They found crazy things like payments to people with duplicate or no social security numbers, totaling up to a hundred billion dollars. Payments were also going to organizations like Internews Network, which promotes a left-leaning point of view, and to protesters worldwide. My team is being transparent about it. We went to the data, we found it. We've only been at this for twenty days, so give us a chance. We're already releasing a lot of information. People are trying to slow us down, but the biggest question is whether we can stop their grift.

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Sam Korkos, a special advisor within the US Treasury, and Secretary Scott Bessent discuss modernizing the IRS. Korkos, also CEO of a software company, was brought in to review the IRS's modernization program, which is 30 years behind schedule and $15 billion over budget. The goal is to migrate the IRS's legacy infrastructure, similar to old banking systems, to a modern system. Bessent says entrenched interests are constricting the system, costing taxpayers. Korkos notes the IRS processes data equivalent to a mid-sized bank but with far more IT staff and a larger budget, with 80% going to contractors and licenses. Bessent wants to improve collections, privacy, and customer service. Korkos says he's cutting wasteful projects and has stopped $1.5 billion in spending. He says career staff have been cooperative. Bessent says the goal is government efficiency, not elimination, and wants the IRS to work better, cheaper, faster, and with more privacy. Korkos is committed to the project for six months.

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Elon Musk and his allies have reportedly gained significant control over the U.S. Treasury Department and other federal agencies, leading to concerns about their access to sensitive government payment systems. Musk's allies sought access to a system responsible for distributing trillions in federal payments, which Treasury officials deemed highly unusual. This access allows Musk to influence payments for programs like Social Security and Medicare, raising alarms about conflicts of interest since he is not an elected official. Additionally, Musk's aides have locked career civil servants out of the Office of Personnel Management, which manages personal data for federal employees, creating cybersecurity risks. They have also infiltrated the General Services Administration, seeking to access agency technology and data. Musk's actions have sparked discussions about a potential constitutional crisis, as he operates without electoral legitimacy or congressional oversight. Critics argue that his unilateral decisions undermine democratic processes, with concerns that he is effectively deciding which federal agencies and programs should exist. The situation reflects a broader distrust in institutions and raises questions about the future of governance in the U.S.