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Candace seeks help identifying Cooper Brown, the person who shoved a microphone away from a speaker at Utah Valley University's Charlie Kirk event. Brown later appeared on Fox News as eyewitness, described as a Leadership Institute volunteer who was 'feet away from Charlie' when the shot rang out and who 'held the microphone' during the event. Witnesses who 'heard multiple shots' were not given mainstream-media interviews; a viral clip shows a witness describing a gunshot and a man slumping, with skepticism about the shooter's origin. The video subject is clarified as not Andrew Colvert of Turning Point USA, and not a TPUSA employee or UVU student; instead, he is a volunteer connected to a TPUSA event, prompting questions about his background, the use of volunteers to manage microphones, and why he spoke to Fox News. Speaker asks for information from Southern New Hampshire University folks who might know Cooper Brown.

There is speculation about Maxwell Yurek from Arizona being connected to a white van at the Trump rally. The speaker visited Yurek's residence and questioned a family member, who denied knowing anything about Yurek's whereabouts or the van. The family member refused to provide any information and ended the conversation abruptly.

The transcript centers on a critical clash over Candace Owens, TP USA, and allegations surrounding Charlie Kirk’s murder investigation, focusing on Fort Huachuca, alleged alibis, and competing narratives presented by Candace Owens and her critics. - The speaker positions himself as having known and supported Candace Owens for ten years, but challenges her latest claims, calling them “ridiculous gaslighting” and “nonsense,” and promises to lay out the facts and where they land. - The ongoing dispute involves “Egyptian planes,” a “latest so-called witness and whistleblower,” Mitch Snow, and a broader question about possible foreign or domestic involvement in Charlie Kirk’s murder, which is tied to a Fort Huachuca narrative. - Mitch Snow is alleged to have claimed that he saw Brian Harpole leaving a meeting at Fort Huachuca on September 9, and also claimed that Erica Kirk was at Fort Huachuca the night before, at Candlewood Inn and Suites. Owens had hosted Snow’s claims as part of her investigation, and the speaker had previously advised Candace to check alibis. - Candace Owens’ supporters and surrogates allegedly attacked the speaker after he questioned the alibis; he persisted in investigating, noting that the Fort Huachuca storyline had “completely blown up” with those alibis. - The narrative shifts to Erica Kirk, with Owens stating she had claimed she did not say the military was involved and did not implicate TP USA, despite compilations of past statements suggesting otherwise. The speaker contends Owens moved the goalposts multiple times and used the Fort Huachuca angle as a distraction from a prior Egyptian plane storyline. - The speaker asserts exclusive access to HD screenshots from Andrew Colvin, the TP USA spokesperson, which purportedly show that Owens’ depiction of Andrew Colvin’s involvement in “secret damage control” is a fraud. He claims to reveal that Colvin was coordinating with Paramount Tactical, not Owens directly, and that Colvin reached out to Owens’ team with alibi requests regarding Erica Kirk. - A key incident involves a screenshot and a time-stamped image Erica Kirk allegedly sent to Colvin showing her with her kids at 08:33, purportedly from Phoenix, which Owens used as part of her alibi apparatus. The speaker presents this as evidence that Colvin’s communications were not a cover-up but a regular PR exercise, and that Owens used the image to claim a broader conspiracy. - The speaker narrates a back-and-forth where Colvin allegedly provided an alibi for Erica Kirk; he shows that Kirk sent photos from a park and home, and Colvin responded three hours later, asking not to display the photo publicly but to acknowledge the proof. Owens denies the alibi and reframes it as desperate behavior by TP USA. - The discussion expands to broader personnel and planes-related details: an undersecretary of the army allegedly went to Fort Huachuca on the eighth; a defense department border inspection visit is cited as context for why Fort Huachuca is significant. The speaker emphasizes that the focus should be on the ninth and the alleged base alibis, not the eighth. - The speaker accuses Owens of simulating a “gaslighting operation” and notes that she has discredited alibis by shifting attention to new claims; he maintains that the “ninth” is the core question, not the earlier Fort Huachuca references. - The narrative includes a conflict with commentators such as Alex Jones, Charlie Kirk, and The Daily Wire, and alleges that Owens’ circle has manipulated public perception to undermine TP USA and Charlie Kirk. - The speaker concludes with a denunciation of Owens’ tactics, insisting that the public should focus on the Charlie Kirk murder case and its true facts, while alleging Owens uses a pattern of deception, moving from one narrative to another to distract from the nine’s alleged details. He calls for prayer for Candace Owens and urges supporters to consider the broader battle against perceived globalist manipulation; he also frames this as a spiritual or existential conflict in which truth is being contested. Note: Promotional or advertising content included toward the end of the original transcript has been omitted.

The speaker introduces Emmanuel Bearer as someone they consider extremely shady and outlines a request to obtain explicit footage of him, specifically who he was with in the crowd, and to identify every person in attendance. The speaker claims Bearer is a former Oracle engineer, likely from Germany, and notes that Bearer attended the event. They question how Bearer, a relatively obscure figure, became an eyewitness who appeared in Salt Lake City in coverage by the mainstream media, specifically mentioning PBS. The speaker asks how PBS or other media outlets knew to reach out to Bearer and whether Bearer tweeted or otherwise indicated he was there. The speaker describes a desire to understand the process by which Bearer was selected for media interviews and to replicate a method of on-the-ground reporting at the UVU campus rather than relying on Bearer’s account. They reference a prior incident involving Tiffany Barker to illustrate concerns about how media connections are made and how certain individuals gain attention. The speaker asks for clarification on how Emmanuel Bearer was chosen as an eyewitness and why mainstream media pursued him. The speaker then presents a clip of Bearer testifying on PBS, quoting Bearer: “I hear this loud sound, and I'm like, that wasn't what I thought it was, is it? I was like, no. This can't be happening right now. And we all ducked.” They note that Bearer appeared on nearly every news channel and mention that there may be a longer clip they could locate. Finally, the speaker appeals to anyone who attended the UVU event with Bearer to come forward to clarify who Bearer was with, to send photos, and to explain how Bearer became an eyewitness that the mainstream media wanted to speak to, expressing strong suspicion about the unattended appearance and coverage of Bearer.

Aladdin and another participant discuss a string of controversial claims and conspiracy theories centered around Candace Owens and her husband, interwoven with personal updates and on-the-ground reporting plans. Aladdin introduces the topic by noting a disagreement with Zanny and invites Candace to continue, while also acknowledging support for a post in the nest. The conversation then moves to Candace Owens and her husband, described as a “MI5 asset” (a claim linked to his alleged background and funding). Speaker 1 identifies himself as a former intelligence officer who is currently in Ukraine, documenting the war to provide factual on-the-ground reporting and planning to visit Israel, Palestine, and Iraq to document events. He mentions a GoFundMe-style pin post on his profile for donations to his journey and stresses his aim to deliver factual reporting without spin. The discussion shifts to Candace Owens, whom Speaker 1 calls an “absolute fraud.” He cites “multiple indications back in 2022” related to Owens’s husband and references a firm he allegedly worked with, comparing it to a Wall Street-like operation in England. Specific firms mentioned include Parley or Glorify, and Avenger Capital Fund, suggesting that Owens’s husband is heavily funded by Jewish firms. When Owens speaks publicly, Speaker 1 argues, it appears to be designed to reveal a hidden network, prompting Aladdin to suggest peeling back layers of her narrative. The consensus among the participants is that Owens has become a prominent conspiracy disseminator who has shifted focus over time. The conversation traces Owens’s move from reporting about Charlies Kirk’s personal guard to broader conspiracies, expressing skepticism about the authenticity of texts Owens released between herself and Charlie Kirk. They describe those messages as not proving anything substantial about an assassination plot, though they debate their authenticity. The group notes Owens’s pattern of jumping between conspiracies without credible evidence, labeling some of her content as vile. Speaker 1 reveals that he knows Owens’s husband and alleges their marriage was arranged for clout, comparing the dynamic to a modern version of a high-profile “arranged marriage.” The discussion turns personal as Speaker 1, who grew up in Iraq, shares a harsh view toward Palestinians, calling them “parasites” and characterizing Palestinian behavior as spreading “cancer with their victimhood.” This remark is cited as part of the broader atmosphere of inflammatory rhetoric surrounding Owens and related narratives. Despite expressions of support for America, Speaker 1 emphasizes his Ukraine mission and reiterates his invitation for donations to fund his reporting. Toward the end, the group veers into light banter about a coin-toss game, humorously referencing heads for soap and tails for a lampshade, then moving through a quick aside about quarters and college games before returning to the ongoing discussion.

Candace Owens opens by acknowledging tech challenges and explains she wants to recap the Fort Huachuca situation to counter a widespread misinformation campaign. She shares a timeline she drafted to illustrate how rapidly events unfolded after receiving Mitch’s story about a Fort Huachuca meeting. She describes her decision-making process from the night of the eighth through subsequent days as she sought to verify Mitch’s claims, including face-to-face vetting with government/military contacts and cross-checking with people who could corroborate or challenge Mitch’s account. Key narrative points Candace presents: - Mitch’s account centers on a September 8-9 sequence at Fort Huachuca involving top brass and a likely on-the-brink mission. Mitch says he saw Erica Kirk at the Candlewood Inn and Suites on September 8 and later describes a high-level meeting on September 9, with 12-13 people she described as top brass. He initially identified a person who resembled Cabot Phillips as being present and later discussed Brian Harpole’s possible presence at the base in that context. - Candace states she asked for basic vetting from a trusted government/military contact and later confirmed certain details, including that Brian Harpole’s alibi was not fully established for the morning of September 9. She notes that Erica provided flight information for Harpole, which Candace used to test Mitch’s timeline but found it did not definitively confirm an alibi for the morning. - With Mitch’s consent, Candace had Mitch on her show to present his metadata (IDs, passports) and his broader story; she maintains Mitch is a Green Beret and that “everything he said was substantially true,” though she concedes uncertainty about whether Harpole actually attended the meeting. - Candace recounts an escalation in scrutiny: Alex Jones and others amplified Mitch’s story; Barry Weiss’s “stop, stop” clip and social media attention followed. She says Ian Carroll warned of an impending lawsuit by Harpole and that someone sought to derail the discussion with manipulated allegations (e.g., stolen valor accusations). She explains she received a cease-and-desist suggestion but pressed on with vetting Mitch’s claims. - She notes that during the back-and-forth, Erica Kirk provided Harpole’s flights but not a complete, verifiable alibi for September 9 or a full record of activities. Turning Point USA (TPUSA) and Erica’s team offered an alibi (she was making dinner for Charlie Kirk); Candace sought metadata to confirm whether the text messages with Charlie Kirk occurred, but those data were still pending. - Candace emphasizes that she did not claim Erica was at Fort Huachuca on September 9; she states Mitch specifically claimed Harpole was present, and she focused on verifying that. She mentions Cabot Phillips’s possible presence was investigated and found Phillips was on vacation during the relevant dates, complicating Mitch’s claims about Cabot being the person he saw. - She discusses the broader context: the investigation has drawn in other players (Paramount Tactical, Valhalla, exes, and Mitch’s family) who offered or alleged alibis or information. She asserts she has sought to publish verifiable alibis when provided and to debunk or corroborate Mitch’s story with available evidence. She asserts she would publish Erica’s alibi if provided with receipts or a verifiable text chain showing Charlie Kirk’s communications. - Candace acknowledges the debate about whether the Fort Huachuca discussion constitutes an assassination planning meeting, clarifying that she has not claimed Erica Kirk attended that meeting, only that Mitch said someone resembling Cabot Phillips and Brian Harpole were involved in the broader Fort Huachuca-related events. She notes that Harrisons and others push back on the inference that the Fort Huachuca episode proves an assassination plot, and she respects a range of views on the matter. - She reports ongoing efforts: contacting Brian Harpole multiple times for a direct alibi for the morning of September 9; continuing to request Erica’s complete alibi and metadata; engaging Turning Point USA for clarifications; and aiming to verify or refute Mitch’s account through primary sources (base personnel, flight logs, official records). - Candace highlights the general sentiment from viewers and participants: there is a strong urge for transparency and credible evidence, and a belief that those connected to TPUSA and its affiliates should provide clear, simple alibis if they care about debunking or clarifying Mitch’s claims. Several participants stress that the investigation should stay focused on Charlie Kirk’s murder and whether Mitch’s Fort Huachuca timeline intersects with that event, rather than spiraling into personal allegations or MeToo-era rumors. Input from participants and their positions: - Harrison Faulkner: Questions the significance of the Fort Huachuca meeting, asking what the actual claim is and what proof would entail. He noted that even if Mitch’s story has proof, the core question remains: what is the conclusion or inference about Charlie Kirk’s murder? - Morgan Ariel: Affirms she remains on board with the investigation while expressing reservations about Mitch’s credibility. Emphasizes the need to assess Mitch’s claims against credible evidence and to avoid conflating personal accusations with the core investigative goals. - Myron: Supports Candace’s approach, endorsing investigative rigor, considering that Mitch may have been misrepresented by informants, and highlighting the importance of corroborating facts with base personnel and official records. - Ian Carroll: Recaps interactions with “Paramount Tactical” and others warning of potential pushback or attempts to manipulate Mitch’s narrative. Notes Ben Shapiro/Andrew Colbert’s involvement and expresses concern about behind-the-scenes pressure. He emphasizes seeking a straightforward alibi from Harpole and Erica. - Isabella: Asks about Morgan’s involvement and notes the potential for coordinated messaging around Mitch’s case. Seeks clarity on positions of exes and allies in the narrative. - Diligent Denizen: Urges rigorous curiosity and accountability, questioning how to prove negatives and seeking direct, verifiable evidence (e.g., alibi confirmations, flight logs, phone/metadatum trails). Argues for open, transparent sourcing and discourages character attacks without solid receipts. - Suleiman: Asks about the feasibility of proving negative alibis and how to confirm absence from a location when no direct evidence exists; underscores the need for a robust evidentiary trail. - Mel: Brings perspective from personal military life, pressing for straightforward evidence (alibis) and criticizing what she perceives as “half-hearted debunkings” or distractions (e.g., focus on exes) that divert from the Charlie Kirk case. - Ryan and other attendees: Echo appreciation for Candace’s investigative work, urge Turning Point to provide clear accountability, and emphasize public trust concerns regarding TPUSA’s handling of the Fort Huachuca matter and Charlie Kirk’s murder investigation. Candace closes by acknowledging the ongoing, crowdsourced nature of the investigation, the need for receipts and verifiable alibis, and her commitment to continuing to pursue the truth. She reiterates that if Erica or Cabot provide solid alibis with verifiable evidence, she will publish them; if Mitch’s account is proven inaccurate, she will acknowledge it and adjust accordingly. She teases additional explosive reporting on related topics, including Tyler Robinson, and states she will be back with more on this case.

They push back on critics who say they can't investigate online, declaring "We're FBI agents. We're the investigators." They highlight Blake Bednar's rise—from about 500 to 23,700 followers—saying "he deserved... a 100." They discuss the Meta Glasses story: "the button on these glasses... it's on the right side" and "hit it once... that is a picture" and "hold it down... record." They say "snapping photos... for confirmation" to use facial recognition to verify a target, and note Blake "jump over to rescue Charlie Kirk" while wearing Meta glasses, "standing over his body." Speaker 2 confirms the sunglasses case: a security guard wearing "meta Ray Bans" records over Charlie's body. They critique the FBI/media narrative about a trans shooter and speculate Candice may reveal GPS and receipts to challenge the timeline, ending with "Save me the fucking lecture."

Candice believes there are 'Ukrainian ties' and 'some intelligence agencies ... involved in this assassination,' 'it's a military operation.' Names are changing: 'Phil Lyman's hiding all this shit,' 'the CIA wiping the fuck the names of the people from their gosh damn website' tied to a university. The piece mentions a mysterious person next to Shaner, 'one person from Austria' and a 'goth kid' Phil Lemmy doesn’t know; 'Robbie Hild' from Washington is suspected to be not his true identity, with no one claiming to know him. The discussion links UVU, CIA ties, and the New York Times report on 'Russian Ukrainian spies ... with new IDs' in America and Brazil. They speculate this could be a military operation with overseas actors, and reference a 'White Lotus idea' and 'they're training fighters.' They mention 'Charlie on a hit list' and call for CCTV footage, criticizing Kash Patel and FBI.

We reviewed the downloaded footage and the discussion centers on Shaner and his close friends retracing the killer’s footsteps at his grandma’s house, with his aunt on camera. The aunt mentions that there was a woman who was helping the shooter, and she's not sure whether that person was an accomplice. "If you time how long it took him to get from that little part over to here was way longer than it should have been." "So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff. Like, if there is an accomplice." And she notes, "it said right here, that picture from Sam's across the street, he was right here. Yep." The speaker adds that the subtitles are wrong and it's AI, "I wondered if there is an accomplice." They discuss "the woman who handed over her footage to the FBI saying, I wondered if that woman was an accomplice." "TMZ already had the doorbell cam footage." "the FBI already had the footage." "Why wouldn't the FBI immediately release that?" The narrator says, "I reached out to Phil Lyman."

Candice Owens’ podcast segment about Phil Lyman and Shaner Broderick: Phil Lyman claims Shaner Broderick acted like he didn’t know him, "No relation. No relative." There was "a woman that was running with the alleged suspect" and "There were two accomplices to this attempted assassination." Shaner Broderick "has, of course, mysteriously deleted all of his socials except for Instagram, but he's wiped his Instagram." A lead about FBI footage surfaced; a woman with the shooter is discussed; an aunt says, "I wondered if the girl had given him stuff... if there is an accomplice." TMZ had the doorbell cam footage; the FBI allegedly had it too. The host asks Phil Lyman for raw footage; he’s upset and cites two possibilities: "Either your cousin gave it to TMZ or the feds gave a portion of it to TMZ."

Discussion centers on Candice Owens' podcast about Phil Lyman and Shaner Broderick. Lyman claims that 'this Shaner Broderick acted like he didn't know him' and 'There was two accomplices to this attempted assassination.' New information: 'a woman running with the alleged suspect.' The judge is 'Judge Tony f Graff junior,' the coroner is new. 'An autopsy did take place.' Utah policy: 'these reports are actually kept private.' The video shows Shaner retracing the killer’s steps; his aunt says, 'If you time how long it took him to get from that little part over to here was way longer than it should have been.' She adds, 'So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff' and, 'Like, if there isn't a compost.' The speaker questions why the FBI did not release the woman in the footage and asks, 'Why would they rush to give it to TMZ?'

The speaker is being accused of being a CIA operative by Tucker Carlson and Peter Thiel's associates. Tucker Carlson called the speaker a "weird gay kid in the basement" from Chicago with trust funds, while Carlson attended a private high school and Ivy League school, and his father was a Reagan appointee. The speaker identifies as a "disaffected young white man" who was "red pilled" by Trump and punished for questioning Israel, years before Carlson addressed the topic. The speaker accuses Carlson and Candace Owens of gatekeeping and personality attacks, forgetting they pander to the same demographic. The speaker contrasts his background with Carlson's elite upbringing and Owens' marriage to British royalty. The speaker questions who is inauthentic, highlighting his own struggles and contrasting them with Carlson's CIA-linked father and connections to Peter Thiel. The speaker claims Carlson's and Owens' success came from contracts and connections, while he fought for everything.

Candace asks for help identifying Cooper Brown, the kid who shoved the microphone away from a speaker, who later appeared on Fox News. He’s described as a PR guy and a political expert, and as 'magically a ghost online, and nobody can find him.' The video notes witnesses insisting multiple shots were heard, including a man shoved as he tried to speak. He says: 'I was standing from probably the third row in the bottom. I saw hit I heard the shot ring out. I looked to my left, and I looked over to my right. I saw him slump over in his chair forward.' The shover is described as not a Turning Point USA employee or UVU student, but a volunteer who later spoke to Fox News. The speaker questions Cooper’s identity and seeks answers from Turning Point USA and asks for information from Southern New Hampshire University contacts.

The speaker describes a coordinated smear campaign against him, asserting that after he announced he would challenge Trump, a lineup of public figures began attacking him or being described as “feds.” He cites Ian Myles Chong, Tucker Carlson, and Milo as examples, saying the criticism revolves around insinuations that he is connected to or controlled by federal agents. He argues that these accusations are part of a broader effort to silence the American people and dismiss his voice. He contrasts the public’s reaction to his campaign with what he regards as a coordinated “fed” narrative, claiming that Tucker Carlson has insinuated he is a fed, and noting that Carlson’s father was a CIA agent who ran Voice of America for forty years, along with Carlson’s collaborations with people he labels as CIA assets. The speaker provides a cascade of biographical and investigative claims about people connected to Carlson and others: - Eric Prince, described as a CIA asset, appeared in a group chat with Tucker Carlson; Carlson had on Joe Kent, a green beret, who is described as intelligence. - Curtis Yarvin is described as the son of an American diplomat who works with Peter Thiel, who is described as a federal informant. - Peter Thiel is claimed to be an FBI informant; Thiel’s Palantir is said to have contracted with the CIA for almost ten years (2001–2008) and now contracts with the NSA and FBI. - Thiel funded JD Vance’s Senate campaign, giving $15,000,000 to help him secure the Trump endorsement; Carlson allegedly helped persuade Trump to make Vance the vice president. - Carlson is said to have invited Kevin Spacey, described as a close friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton, on a Christmas interview. - The speaker contends that a social media ecosystem includes many who see nothing suspicious about these connections, including CIA involvement, green berets, and intelligence ties that push certain candidates on Trump. He asserts he's been demonized for years: banned from social media, banks, airlines, and credit card processors; subpoenaed; and money frozen. He claims this is because he has grown a substantial, loyal following and uses it to organize and mobilize swing-state voters rather than taking advertising or sponsorships. He says his followers are genuine and committed, which frightens those who want influencers who can be paid to push narratives. The speaker reflects on Charlottesville and white anxiety, suggesting others only recently acknowledge these issues. He asserts he would appear civil in an interview with Tucker Carlson and asks for a platform to “clear the record.” He contends he is being targeted for standing up to the GOP establishment and for criticizing both the right-wing establishment and the left. He predicts he will be “patsied” and that those opposing him will try to take him down, leaving him to be the “dark MAGA” guardian, not the hero, who nonetheless confronts the country’s problems and fights for real change. He closes by declaring he will be the villain if necessary, stating that the country will never give him the credit he deserves, but that he performs this role out of duty, not glory.

"Charlie Kirk's assassination has deleted evidence that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson haven't mentioned once." "This guy told the cops to arrest him so the shooter could have more time to get away." "This guy was deployed for 09/11, deployed against Obama, for George Bush, and personally worked with senators and US congressmen." "And he personally admitted it, and they wiped everything, but I downloaded it just before. George Zinn," "These donors like Manafort, Berman, Ronald Weiser, they manipulate elections, create countries, and have personally admitted to taking money from all of these countries." "Zinn, the patsy, is an example of an actor they use." "I have a full twenty seven minute video going over exactly what happened, why people like Candace Owens might be lying to you, and the archive podcast link in bio."

The transcript centers on a long-form discussion of the Epstein case, the alleged “deep state,” FOIA operations, and political maneuvering around Trump, with frequent calls to aggressively release and pursue Epstein-related documents and other investigations. The speakers assert that the FOIA department is being used to shield deep-state ties and that many federal offices are filled with anti-Trump figures who have prevented full disclosure. - Epstein files and the role of the deep state - The speakers claim the Epstein files are being selectively redacted by FOIA departments to conceal deep-state connections. They state that FOIA personnel are controlled by deep-state actors and that Epstein’s case involves a “fleet of aircraft” and operations linked to major power centers. They argue Epstein’s activities connect to money laundering, information laundering, and a broader set of deep-state assets and operations. - They propose a remedy: appoint Tom Fitton as special counsel on the Epstein files, arguing he “knows how FOIA really works,” understands key personnel, and has litigated Epstein-related cases for years. They assert this would restore public confidence and expedite the exposure of Democratic ties and other actors alleged to be involved. - They advocate for Trump to have executive-privilege-style powers to declassify and release Epstein materials, suggesting a broad interpretation of “Epstein file law” that would allow him to disclose or appoint an ombudsman with power to release materials at will. They emphasize the need to disclose Democratic ties and to hold press conferences when releasing documents, avoiding the use of fake documents or videos. - Specific figures and institutions named - Kash Patel is cited as saying there are “open files on a dozen plus coconspirators” and as someone who has noted alleged misdirections by those handling Epstein-related material. - Kyle Serafin and Phil Kennedy are mentioned as documenting a person at the FBI capacity who is “an anti-Trump advocate,” implying that deep-state appointments control FOIA and related processes. - Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss replacing FOIA and related personnel who are deeply implicated; they specifically name Tom Fitton as the ideal choice and entertain other high-profile figures like Tulsi Gabbard as potential custodians of the Epstein disclosures. - Tulsi Gabbard is described as being in charge of broader investigations tied to the Epstein files and other major political issues (elections, COVID-19, etc.). They also reference “Epstein files” intersecting with other investigations they attribute to the deep state. - Epstein, Maxwell, and allied networks - Epstein is described as deeply embedded with Western intelligence agencies (French, Israeli, UK, and US) and tied to Robert Maxwell, with Maxwell’s daughter linked to Epstein. Epstein is portrayed as having been “recruited by Bill Barr” and as a central figure in a long-running intelligence and blackmail operation. - The discussion links Epstein to Leslie Wexner (Victoria’s Secret founder) and a French talent agency, portraying these connections as part of a large, interconnected network involved in money laundering, arms trafficking, blackmail, and intelligence work. - The speakers insist that Epstein’s activities extended to the late 1990s and beyond, including alleged involvement in “Shutters” in Santa Monica and other high-profile cases, with a consistent pattern of using underage girls and blackmail to exert influence. - They emphasize a broader motive: exposing the “deep state” to vindicate Trump and indict deep-state actors who allegedly engaged in illicit operations, including foreign intelligence services and Western governments. - The broader political frame and potential indictments - The Epstein files are presented as a potential hinge for indicting a wide array of figures across political lines, including references to Comey, Mueller, Hillary Clinton-era actors, and other “rogue actors” who allegedly hindered investigations. - The conversation ties Epstein to broader themes: the 2020 election, COVID policies, and anti-Trump actions by the “deep state.” They contend that the Epstein disclosures could demonstrate the depth of state interference in political processes and media, making Democrats and their institutions targets of accountability. - They argue the Epstien files could show criminal activity by multiple national actors, including Israeli, UK, and French components, and could reveal coordinated efforts to derail Trump and manipulate media narratives. - The Candace Owens angle and related criticisms - A substantial portion of the dialogue critiques Candace Owens, alleging she is running a “CIA-style” operation that distracts from the true conspiracy around the deep state and Tarantifa, and that she manipulates narratives related to Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk. - They accuse Owens of shifting narratives, fabricating alibis, and promoting disinformation, calling her a “SIOP” (psychological operation) and alleging her behind-the-scenes connections to MI6 or other international actors through her husband (George Farmer) and other associates. - They recount multiple incidents where Owens purportedly changed stories about meetings, alibis, and involvement in various investigations, asserting she uses “receipts” selectively and inconsistently to support divergent claims. - The speakers allege that Owens’s public warfare against Trump and TP USA is part of a broader intelligence operation intended to disrupt conservative momentum, link to Royal/MI6 circles, and undermine investigations into the deep state and its networks. - Tyler Robinson case and media dynamics - They describe Tyler Robinson as a Middle American figure whose transformation into a political actor is portrayed as a product of online radicalization and Tarantifa-linked influences. They claim there was a concerted effort to spoon-feed disinformation about Robinson and Candace Owens’ involvement. - They argue this is part of a larger pattern of media manipulation and disinformation designed to distract from real conspiracies and to target Trump and conservative movements. - Strategy and messaging guidance - The speakers advocate for Trump to go on the offensive with Epstein, releasing comprehensive, verified documentation, and pushing accountability for “rogue actors” in the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, and the NSA. - They stress the need for aggressive prosecution and the appointment of trusted figures to lead the Epstein disclosures, arguing that this could restore public confidence and pivot the political conversation toward accountability for the deep state. - They urge addressing the statute of limitations issues in COVID, January 6, and 2020 election-related cases before the window closes in early 2026, warning that delays by Bondi, Blanche, and others could jeopardize prosecutions and political support. - Promotional and logistical notes - The dialogue includes frequent mentions of promoting Alex Jones programs, products, and stores (alexjonesstore.com and infowarsstore.com) to fund operations, along with appeals to listeners to support the broadcasts financially and through purchases, framing financial support as essential to sustaining investigations, media efforts, and broader political action. In sum, the transcript presents an entangled, aggressively conspiratorial narrative: a claim that Epstein’s files illuminate a vast, deeply embedded deep-state apparatus spanning multiple nations and agencies; a call to appoint trusted figures (notably Tom Fitton) to supervise full disclosure; a push for Trump to declassify and publicly prosecute the implicated actors; a harsh critique of Candace Owens as part of a disinformation ecosystem; and a broader strategy to use Epstein, along with related investigations, to dismantle perceived institutional corruption while fueling political narratives and fundraising.

Gary Melton (Gary) and Mitch have a lengthy, meandering exchange that centers on veterans’ histories, alleged government manipulation, personal trauma, and the pursuit of truth around high-profile political cases. The core thread is an effort to verify Mitch’s claims about his SF background and to explore broader claims about political interference, media narratives, and potential conspiracies. Key points and exchanges: - Identity, background, and verification: - Gary identifies himself as a former SF soldier seeking to verify Mitch’s SF history after seeing his Candace Owens interview. - Mitch provides his SF timeline: he was in group from February/March 1993 until November 1996; MOS 18 Charlie (medic). He mentions attending the 300F1 course and a severe on-duty accident at Guadalupe River, involving a 60-foot fall that caused multiple injuries (spine, feet, knee, lumbar, dislocations, torn labrum, etc.). - Mitch describes his treatment (brace, three-week leave, then recycled into the next class and internship at Brookhaven Army Medical Center Burn Ward). He mentions ODA +1 63166/ +1 63/ +1 66 and places himself on +183 and +185 in the old numbering system; later, he notes the transition to the newer numeric system circa 2002-2006. - Gary asks for Mitch’s DD214 to verify the story; Mitch agrees and offers to share it. He references being in “Lake Baja” and knowing Nate (Nate Chapman), whom he spoke with the day before. - Personal stakes, trauma, and family: - Mitch explains a long, difficult divorce and custody battle that spanned many years. He says he was a stay-at-home dad for his son, who is now 13, and describes persistent, aggressive accusations against him (PTSD, abuse, murder) by courts and media figures. - He recounts a prior incident involving a coworker or classmate, Jimmy Walker, and notes that Walker later claimed PTSD and discrimination in SF contexts. Mitch frames this as part of broader patterns of how SF status can be weaponized in custody and legal battles. - Mitch and Gary discuss how the SF environment can foster suspicion, paranoia, and intra-community politics (e.g., clashes with SF Brothers, admin actions, and the difficulty of maintaining contact with peers after leaving the teams). - Candace Owens, TPUSA, and broader conspiratorial discussions: - The callers discuss Candace Owens’ involvement, the TPUSA circle, and the believability of various claims. Mitch says he has wanted to vet the claims through Candace and Joe Kent, and he’s offered to supply documents to verify stories. He notes that Candace has reportedly pulled threads about various shooters and narratives and that this has caused friction with TPUSA. - Mitch argues that Candace might be exploited by political or foreign adversaries and that her narratives sometimes lack corroborating evidence, distracting from “the truth.” He insists on corroborating Mitch’s own story with documents (DD214, other records) before airing anything publicly. - Gary responds with skepticism about online personas but agrees to vet Mitch’s materials, emphasizing integrity and a desire to verify truth. Both acknowledge the risk of backend manipulation, bot attacks, and the use of media figures to push narratives. - Ballistics and the Charlie Kirk incident: - A substantial portion of the discussion turns to ballistics surrounding Tyler Robinson and the Charlie Kirk incident. Mitch (the ballistics expert) explains that many variables affect ballistic outcomes (ammo type, grain, bullet construction, handloads vs. factory ammo, barrel condition, yaw, stabilization). He argues that the 30-06 round’s behavior can be highly variable and that an “atypical” (non-normative) wound could occur for many reasons. - He compares Martin Luther King’s assassination (65-yard shot, 30-06, open casket) to Charlie Kirk’s wound, noting similarities in the trajectory and lack of an exit wound in some high-profile cases. He cites Chuck Ritter (Green Beret) who was shot multiple times with 7.62x54R and survived, and uses these examples to illustrate the complexity of interpreting ballistic evidence. - Mitch asserts that multiple plausible explanations exist for Kirk’s wounds and stresses that the exact ammunition type, projectile, and ballistic conditions are unknown at present. He emphasizes that investigators possess DNA and surveillance records (DNA on the firearm, trigger, cartridge, towel used by Tyler Robinson) and text messages; he notes that Mitch is not claiming to know the entire truth but wants to see corroborating evidence. - The two discuss the possibility of government involvement or manipulation, while acknowledging that ballistics alone cannot prove a broader conspiracy. They note the challenges of obtaining complete ballistic data before trials, and they express openness to future verification once more information becomes available (e.g., during trial proceedings). - Custody, investigations, and accountability: - Mitch recounts the broader pattern of SF members being targeted by legal systems when in contentious custody situations, with accusations and judgments influenced by SF status. He cites examples of coercion, character assassination, and the weaponization of families in court battles. - They discuss how the FBI and other agencies have handled high-profile cases, noting distrust in narratives presented by authorities and media. They acknowledge that public transparency is essential, even as prosecutions proceed. - Platform, vetting, and next steps: - The two plan to continue the vetting process: Mitch will provide DD214 and related documents to Gary, who promises to verify and not disclose sensitive information without Mitch’s consent. They discuss sending further documents via email or text (Gary’s Paramount Tactical contact). - Mitch expresses a desire to appear on Gary’s show and to connect with Nate (Nate Chapman) for collaborative vetting. Gary commits to facilitating, offering to act as an advocate if Mitch’s story is verified and to help set up communications with Nate and Candace as appropriate. - The conversation closes with both agreeing on the importance of truth, corroboration, and accountability. They acknowledge the risk and the emotional toll of revealing sensitive histories but emphasize their commitment to pursuing the truth and preventing misinformation or manipulation. Overall, the transcript captures a tense, exploratory exchange between two veterans and affiliates about verifying SF credentials, the personal toll of custody and legal battles, the influence of political narratives, and the complexities of ballistics and forensics in high-profile incidents. The participants stress verification through documents, corroboration of anecdotes, and cautious, integrity-driven engagement with media figures and audiences.

Two speakers discuss a tip about video footage of Tyler Robinson. The informant says "I've been trying to get in touch with Candace Owens" and that "the FBI came to my job... and informed me that his phone pinged in this parking lot." They say the FBI was "going in her shopping center... to retrieve video footage" and shows "Tyler Robinson's car pulling into the parking lot" with a "white SUV" nearby. They claim "This video specifically doesn't make sense" because a person who just committed an assassination would not linger in a parking lot. They reference "surveillance footage" from the FBI in Utah that shows Tyler jumping off the roof and argue the rifle was "reassembled again." They cite Candace Owens' insider saying Tyler never admitted to being on UVU campus and question why law enforcement has not released the full footage, suggesting possible involvement of others.

The speaker discusses Maxwell Yurek from Arizona, claiming a white GMC van with Arizona plates towed from the Trump rally in Pennsylvania after a shooting is tied to him. The speaker urges viewers to Google Yurek's name, noting information is being scrubbed. The speaker claims Yurek is connected to Yurek Armoury Explosives in East Mesa, Arizona, and that Google searches for the company reveal a residence. The speaker and his brother drove to the residence and spoke to a woman there. The speaker presents a video of the encounter, where he asks the woman if Max is present. The woman initially claims not to know any Max Yurek or Yerling. The speaker identifies himself as Tyson Draper, a missing person investigator, and asks about a missing person report for Yurek. The woman denies knowledge of this. She acknowledges being part of the family but claims to have "no say on anything" and denies knowledge of the van.

Speaker describes the Utah case as increasingly bizarre. Candice "believes that there is most likely some Ukrainian ties, some intelligence agencies that are involved in this assassination. She's looking like it's a military operation." They allege "people changing their names" and that "Phil Lyman's hiding all this shit. His family's all involved. You got the governor involved, Spencer Cox. You got the CIA wiping the fuck the names of the people from their gosh damn website that were part of the university, a professor, two teachers." Speaker 1 cites a mysterious individual near Shaner, "one person was from Austria," a "goth kid" Phil Lemmy cannot identify, and "Robbie Hild" from Washington; inboxes aren't flooded with confirmations. They flag "Azov battalion" ties, "new identities," and a "direct pipeline from Russia to America" via UVU and CIA links. Tyler Robinson & "uncle Mikey" linked to the Azov battalion; NYT on spies; "terrorist cells" and a "neo Bolshevik militant tribe." Tomorrow, deeper; "release the CCTV footage."

The family says that the photo of the young man coming up the stairs, which was shared, that blurry image, is definitively not Tyler Robinson. "Face looks different." "Face looks more narrow." "That person looks taller." "Tyler Robinson also appears to have full lips." The speaker notes that Tyler has never stepped foot on UVU campus and was accepted to Utah State University, not Utah Valley, raising questions about how he could know rooftop routes to film a shot of Charlie Kirk on the Losey Center. Phil Lyman's nephew Shane posted a public tour retracing the shooter’s route, sharing photos and Converse footprints, asking who the two people in a staircase photo are. The speaker reached out to Phil and Shane; Shane made his profile private, Lyman left him on red. A public appeal for information and video uploads is made, with tips to canisowens.com.

I still can't get over the fact that they expect us to completely memory hold this and buy their trans sloth when Spencer Cox, standing right behind Cash Patel, literally tells us that they that he's lived at home with his parents, and he's lived there for a very long time. Check this out. I don't have any information on the mental illness part. He was not a student here at UVU. He was living and, and had lived for a long time with his family in, in Washington County. And had lived for a a long time with his family in, in Washington County. With his family in, in Washington County. It was most priorities. Thank you everyone for, for your great work in getting this information out.

Speaker 0 outlines concerns about Tyler Boyer, alleging shady activities behind the scenes at Turning Point with underage or of-age younger boys and money laundering operations, and notes Brian Farrance’s extensive deep dive connecting dots. Speaker 1 presents a 2015 vote of no confidence involving Boyer and alleges misuse of GOP County funds. The account claims MCRC funds were not a personal account to be used without discretion or discipline, with ongoing unethical financial behavior, including repeated use of the MCRC debit card without receipts, and abuse of MCRC funds and violation of federal election law. It asserts Boyer exhibited blatant dishonesty in internal and external communications about amounts of funds and budget, demonstrated chronic duplicity and deceptiveness, and violated FEC filing and Arizona election laws on multiple occasions. The resolution demanded an immediate independent audit of the EGC’s financial records and offices, and for Boyer to cease and desist using the MCRC debit card and relinquish all MCRC credit/debit cards or checks. The vote of no confidence was deadlocked, but Boyer cast the deciding vote to defeat the resolution. A former board member alleged Boyer embezzled an inflated fundraising by $50,000. Excerpts of the vote are cited, and a 2015 article notes Boyer “proves once again that he is unfit to lead the party.” The speaker asserts TPUSA (Turning Point USA) does not respond to requests for comment. Speaker 0 continues, quoting a thread that labels Boyer as “one of the most dishonest gaslighting grifters,” directly responsible for corruption in TPUSA, and accuses him of conflating issues while playing the victim. It cites Candace Owens calling out Boyer on her show, claiming she knew Boyer was lying when he tweeted that a man was commanded by the police to take down cameras, and urges viewers to check a clip. Speaker 2 references a video in which a participant says the video shows what Boyer was doing before cameras were taken down, including an incident with Charlie getting shot and a camera operator who was hired by Boyer. A subsequent thread alleges Candace Owens on Halloween described Boyer as “the king of shady” and says Turning Point USA is a Mormon organization rather than a Christian one. Speaker 0 adds that there is no story anywhere about Boyer involving sexual assaults, cover-ups, embezzlement, or bribery, and notes donors halted long-time TPUSA donations after the Ingram family and Family Trust demanded a governance and audit response, with others echoing concerns. It mentions harassment by Turning Point shills and references to past scandals (Halloween, COVID) and allegations including sexual assault cover-ups, embezzlement, and bribery. Speaker 1 notes that after donors halted contributions, more donors joined the concerns, and that this was followed by harassment of TPUSA and spread of propaganda, with mentions of doxxing and defamation threats. The clip ends with Candace breaking down the story on the show last week. Speaker 2 concludes by recounting further alleged details about Boyer’s involvement in Maricopa County politics, including embezzlement accusations, his alleged pattern of hiring people around Charlie, and claims about Boyer’s background. It also mentions Tyler Boyer’s education—majoring in Soviet studies—and his fluency in Russian, implying ties to Ukrainian communities and challenging assumptions about Russian speakers. The transcript ends with a disclaimer that everything stated is alleged, an opinion, not facts, and that everyone is innocent until proven guilty, explicitly applying this to Tyler Boyer.

Candace Owens is described as a former friend of Charlie and at one time an employee of Turning Point, accused of peddling conspiracies and “building her business off of these lies,” with the assertion that she is making “a huge amount of money” from them. The speaker’s response to Candace Owens and others spreading these lies is simply: “Stop.” The conversation then shifts to a revelation that the interview was prerecorded, with sources from CBS News and audience members who say they had to do multiple takes because Barry wanted to read a prompter and questions were pre-submitted. In addressing the question, the speaker asserts that the podcaster Candace Owens and others are “lying,” and that “All of the money. Millions upon millions of dollars” have been earned by some people, while others did not benefit as claimed. The speaker argues that Candace Owens implies that building a business from podcasting results in immediate wealth, but claims the speaker “already had this business” and was “already at top of the chart.” Eric responds, and the speaker’s response to what to say to Candace Owens who is lying is “stop,” with a request for Erica to be explicit about what was lied about. The speaker claims to have reviewed lists and cannot find the lie, asserting that “The lies that I find are coming out of Turning Point USA.” Examples cited as lies from Turning Point USA include Mikey’s blood on him, Mikey’s dad being confused, and Rob McCoy’s statements about his father, which the speaker says Rob McCoy was confused about. The speaker also says Mikey’s departure as a hero does not feel honest, and alleges Charlie’s claim that he stopped a 30-06 bullet due to healthy eating and strong bones was a modern-day Christian miracle and a lie. The speaker asserts Charlie never wavered in his support for Israel, calling that a “nasty lie,” and accuses Turning Point USA of lying about Charlie’s life in the last weeks. The speaker also mentions claims that Barry won something, and questions whether Charlie’s evangelical commitment and preference for Catholic architecture were misrepresented as lies. The speaker notes further that Turning Point USA lied about various other points, including a supposed “blood bad blood” between Ben Chifferro and others, and Terrell Farnsworth being told to remove an SD card by police, stating that Terrell Farnsworth personally told the speaker that was not true. The speaker claims Terrell removed the SD cards because hats were being stolen, not because of other thefts, and questions the logic of taking the cameras instead of just the SD card, especially the camera behind Terrell’s head. Additional alleged lies include Charlie establishing a Doge, which is claimed not to have existed, and prior to Elon Musk’s government-accountability remark, that Charlie Christine flew drones—described as a major lie by Brian Harpold, who also allegedly stated that security had communicated with UB police to secure rooftops, which the speaker calls a lie. The speaker asks what they lied about, acknowledging mistakes but insisting they have not found a lie, and asks why there isn’t the same energy about lies from the feds, who allegedly told lies as well. The speaker references missing footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in, unresolved questions about Egyptian planes, and years of tracking Charlie and Erika, with others laughing at these points. The speaker asks explicitly what they lied about and requests clarity, noting possible time-zone mistakes and a timeline discrepancy, and asking where the speaker is lying.

Candace Owens: Shabbat shalom and Hanukkah wishes. Israel has a right to defend itself. Then she riffs about Tucker Carlson and TikTok, but shifts to recount of a four-and-a-half hour meeting with Turning Point USA, Erica, Justin Streiff, and others to address questions and concerns. Candace Owens: She emphasizes she invited Erica and others to answer questions, noting there were no rules in the room for that four-and-a-half hour session; the aim was to get clear answers and understand what Turning Point USA could or could not disclose. She describes the participants: Justin Streiff, Erica, George for part of it, her cousin Mia for vibes, and later George leaving. She explains her goal was to determine why Turning Point USA hadn’t answered basic questions and to address what she saw as miscommunications and lies. Candace Owens: Erica owned apparent lies or miscommunications early in the discussion, explaining that 650 employees can be emotional and that messages circulating on Twitter didn’t always reflect management’s communications. She references a prior interview with Glenn Beck and a viral clip about Charlie’s phone, clarifying Erica looked at Charlie’s iMessages and found he used Signal and Telegram, not regular texting. Andrew Kolbet (Kolbet) told her that Andrew did receive a message the night before the shooting saying “they’re going to kill me,” and she notes that Dan Flood received a similar message; she cautions about confirming the exact wording for Dan’s message. Candace Owens: She contends that some content from Barry Weiss’s interview was planned and not random, and that Barry Weiss asked questions that were directed; Erica said she knew the general idea but not the exact Candace Owens question. Candace maintains she did not recant her suspicions and lists concerns about specific Turning Point USA figures: Terrell Farnsworth allegedly lied about camera disruptions; Blake Neff and Mikey McCoy’s call logs were discussed, with Candace blaming Terrell’s actions and questioning the credibility of Tyler Boyer and Rob McCoy. She notes Rob McCoy does not work for Turning Point USA, contradicting the sense that he was “America’s pastor” at Memorial and that his Wikipedia entry had been updated accordingly. Candace Owens: She discusses the “magic bullet” and the texting around Charlie Kirk’s shooting. She recounts Andrew Kolbet’s claim that a surgeon stated the bullet should have gone through Charlie and could have killed those behind him; she emphasizes Andrew went to the surgeon and claimed permission to post but acknowledges questions about HIPAA. She notes investigators later indicated the surgeon didn’t know Andrew before the tweet, and that Kolbet’s post reflected an unverified account. Candace Owens: She describes the security around the event, the involvement of Brian Harpole in interviews (Sean Ryan) and a lack of certainty about whether he still works with Turning Point USA. She says that investigators are in an ongoing process, that no one from Turning Point USA or Erica has seen new evidence beyond what the public has, and that an May probable cause hearing will reveal concrete evidence. She criticizes media narratives that declare “the evidence is overwhelming” and argues for a cautious, transparent approach, acknowledging she had pressed for more concrete proof before publicly asserting involvement of specific individuals. Candace Owens: She reveals she asked for Mikey McCoy’s logs and confirms Mikey’s real name, sharing that Mikey called his wife first, then his father, and only later added Erica to the call, with subsequent calls involving his brother. She notes Blake Neff’s call with his mother and the timeline around the shooting, addressing discrepancies in various retellings and emphasizing the need for accuracy in call logs. Candace Owens: She mentions the Hamptons retreat and alleged lies, referencing Seth Dillon’s confrontation with Charlie Kirk and concerns about funding offers from BB Netanyahu to take Turning Point USA to the next level, which she says Erica denied knowing about, while noting multiple sources confirmed the offer. She clarifies she never asserted a $150,000,000 figure, only that there were discussions about taking Turning Point to the next level and that the offer’s gravity raises questions. Candace Owens: She returns to Egyptian planes, promising an upcoming interactive timeline on her site showing planes’ patterns and how they tie to Israel, arguing this is part of the broader pattern they are following. She notes that planes regularly fly in and out of Israel with transponders off, and she plans to present this evidence tomorrow, inviting scrutiny of those planes’ activity. Candace Owens: The segment ends with a tease about presenting the Egyptian planes evidence and transitions to sponsor mentions.