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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the growing urgency of climate-related concerns and how global attention has shifted in recent years. Speaker 1 states: “the phenomenal change that's come about in the last two or three years is that probably isn't a child over the age of six that isn't deeply concerned about climate change. I mean, there were reports in the past, but now the focus of the world are on those problems, whether it's droughts, whether it's storms, whether it's the seaside being ruined, just undermining life.” This underscores a marked increase in concern among younger generations about climate issues and a perception that the world’s focus has shifted to problems such as droughts, storms, and the degradation of seaside environments, which are framed as threats to life. Speaker 0 adds context by noting that “Corona has slightly, I'm afraid, eclipsed the importance of this conversation. No one's saying corona isn't incredibly devastating, but actually, we do need to think long term about the planet.” This introduces a tension between the immediate impacts of the pandemic and the need for long-term planetary thinking, suggesting that the pandemic has overshadowed discussions about climate, even while acknowledging its devastation. Speaker 1 elaborates on the consequence of this shift, characterizing the pandemic’s impact as “a distraction. Well, more than a distraction. It's a tragedy, but it does have that knock on effect.” This phrase emphasizes that the pandemic is not only a distraction but also has broader knock-on effects that affect attention to climate and long-term planetary considerations. Together, the speakers convey a sense of heightened public concern about climate change among young people, the prominence of climate-related problems such as droughts, storms, and coastal degradation, and the challenge posed by the COVID-19 pandemic in diverting attention away from long-term environmental planning. The exchange indicates a tension between addressing urgent, immediate crises and maintaining focus on long-term planetary health.

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The speaker discusses the pharmaceutical industry and its problems. They explain that the industry has struggled to keep up with advancements in molecular biology and the changing face of capitalism. The speaker highlights how the industry has become powerful and profitable by increasing drug prices and creating "me too" drugs with slight variations to extend patents. They criticize the lack of transparency and the influence of the pharmaceutical industry on decision-making at international and national levels. The speaker emphasizes the need for better pharmacovigilance and the importance of educating doctors about the risks and benefits of medications. They also mention the need for better reporting and understanding of adverse effects. The speaker concludes by stating that changes are needed in medical education and the way medications are developed and prescribed.

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Medicines we know from the COVID vaccine. Very effective, very welcome. The logistics around that vaccine were not straightforward because of the new technologies. We're talking about countries here that do not have advanced

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Our company is embracing cell and gene therapy, which has the potential to make a significant impact. The mRNA vaccines are a prime example of this. Just a couple of years ago, if we had asked the public if they would be willing to undergo gene or cell therapy, the majority would have refused. However, the pandemic has changed people's perspectives and made them more open to innovative solutions.

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"There's the transformative, if I might use that word, experience that we've all had now in year five of COVID." The speaker says, "The thought that we won't have another pandemic, I think is naive at best and just not completely unrealistic at worst." They add, "I'm convinced that there will be another pandemic and that's the reason why we have to be perpetually prepared to prevent the terrible impact of a pandemic."

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The speaker brings up the fact that the pandemic created many new billionaires in the pharmaceutical industry. They mention that pharmaceutical companies funded the 2020 election and made huge profits, with Pfizer alone making $100 billion. They also highlight that the public funded the development of vaccines but did not benefit from the profits. The speaker questions the economic system where companies benefit from crises, leading to perpetual crises that serve the interests of the elite rather than ordinary people.

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The speaker emphasizes the need for a pandemic treaty and global preparedness. They express optimism despite setbacks and stress the importance of learning from failures. Another speaker discusses concerns about big pharma's influence and the development of new vaccines. They highlight issues with peer-reviewed studies and the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. Additionally, they promote natural health products available at doctorjonesnaturals.com.

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Pharmaceutical companies generate over two-thirds of their profits in the United States, despite the U.S. accounting for only 4% of the world's population. The speaker expresses respect for pharmaceutical companies and their leadership. They believe these companies successfully convinced people for many years that the current system was fair, even though the reasons why were not widely understood.

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Stephan Uhlrich, a member of the board at Bayer and president of the pharmaceutical section, speaks at the World Health Summit. He commends the summit for its growth and impact over the years. Uhlrich highlights the importance of collaboration, transparency, and accountability in the pharmaceutical industry's response to the COVID-19 pandemic. He emphasizes the need for equitable access to healthcare innovations and mentions initiatives aimed at improving access to contraception and cardiovascular disease management. Uhlrich also discusses the role of innovation and the importance of translating academic knowledge into practical applications. He calls for global collaboration and joint efforts between government, science organizations, industry, and civil society to achieve health for all.

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Understanding the origins of the pandemic is not crucial for preventing future outbreaks, according to Speaker 1. The focus should be on implementing measures like masks, vaccines, and a different approach to handling cases. Speaker 1 is involved in discussions about advancements in diagnostics, therapeutics, and vaccine production to eradicate not only COVID-19 but also the flu and common cold. Speaker 0 asks if it is important to know how the pandemic started from a justice or moral perspective, to which Speaker 1 agrees but doesn't elaborate further.

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Pharmaceutical companies generate over two-thirds of their profits in the United States, despite the U.S. accounting for only 4% of the world's population. The speaker expresses respect for pharmaceutical companies and their leadership. They believe these companies successfully convinced people for many years that the existing system was fair, even though the reasons why were not well understood. The speaker claims to have figured out the reasons behind this.

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In this exchange, the speakers reference the World Health Organization’s ten-year plan. The first speaker states that the plan has long warned: “for the coming 10 years, there will be a large infectious disease crisis,” and notes that “this was year 1.” The second speaker adds that the aim is to prepare and help, should a second pandemic occur, and asserts that, based on years of the speakers’ discussions, “the chance that a second pandemic comes is very large.” The first speaker reiterates that there is consensus and that the plan has anticipated a major infectious disease crisis over the decade, emphasizing that the warning has been a longstanding part of the plan.

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Speaker 0 describes contracting COVID from his gardener, noting that the gardener had it first and died, while he survived. He says, “I got COVID from my gardener, and he had it first, and then I got it. I was like, ah, did I grab the hose or what, you know, what was I don't know. But it was it was I knew the guy for twenty years, and we both went to the same hospital. And he died, and I didn't. Jesus.” He claims they both received remdesivir, saying, “I think we both got remdesivir, which is not good. Not good. Not good. Causes kidney failure. I know.” He adds that he couldn’t walk for three months after receiving that treatment and that, “I couldn't walk for three months after I had that stuff. Really? Because it kills you.” He says he learned afterward that remdesivir “kills you,” and he ties this to a question about Fauci: “and that's why I wonder about Fauci, you know.” Speaker 1 responds, suggesting that the audience should indeed “wonder about that guy,” and contrasts this with actions he describes as preventing people from obtaining monoclonal antibodies: “Oh, you should wonder about that guy. When meanwhile, they were trying to stop people from getting monoclonal antibodies.” He criticizes the restriction of monoclonal antibodies as “fucking insane” because it followed a push to promote vaccines for profit, stating, “They've restricted monoclonal antibodies, which is fucking insane because they wanted to promote that vaccine because they wanted a profit off of it, which brings us back again to evil.” He asserts, “Evil's real. It's real. Putting money over human lives is evil. I agree.” He adds that there is a temptation to pursue such income, calling it “a real thing,” and reaffirms, “and there's a there's a temptation to do it too, which is even more crazy. Yeah.”

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Speaker 0: I have three friends. All three of them had stage four cancer. All three of them don't have cancer right now at all. And they had some serious stuff going on. And what did they take? Yep. Jesus. They took some what you've heard they've taken. Speaker 1: Ivermectin. Fenbendazole. Fenbendazole. Yeah. Speaker 0: That's it. Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm hearing that a lot. Speaker 0: They drank hydrochloride something or other? There's studies on Speaker 1: that now where people have proven that they've Speaker 0: drinking methylene blue and stuff Speaker 1: like that. Yeah. Methylene blue, which was a fabric dye. Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. It was a textile dye, and now they find it has profound effects on your mitochondria. Yep. Yeah. Speaker 0: This stuff works, man. There's a lot of stuff that does work, which is very strange Speaker 1: Mhmm. Because, again, it's profit. When you when you hear about things that are demonized and that that turn out to be effective, you always wonder, well, what is going on here? Mhmm. How is how is our medical institutions how have they failed us so that things that do cure you are not promoted because they're not profitable?

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the COVID-19 vaccine episode, challenging why the vaccine was pursued as a public health solution and exploring deeper incentives behind the program. - A knowledgeable figure at the stand answered a burning question: did they know the vaccine wouldn’t be effective from the start and could be dangerous? The answer given was that it was “a test of a technology.” The exchange suggests the broader aim was testing an entire program of control previewed in Event 2019. - They ask whether inoculation was necessary on billions, noting it could have been tested on a much smaller population. If shots had been basically empty or inert, the data could have been spun to claim success and end the pandemic, preventing injuries from appearing. The absence of that approach remains a mystery. - The speakers point to high pre-vaccine seroprevalence in 2020, including studies from South Dakota showing 50-60% seroprevalence before vaccine release, implying that a saline shot or no shot could have achieved “indomicity” (immunity) without a vaccine. - They discuss why people might fear vaccines and interpret the broader impact: the public is waking up to something terrible having occurred, as it revealed readiness to lie, potential data quality concerns, and risk to pregnant women and healthy children who might get little justification for risk. - The disease’s lethality is framed as greatest among the very old or very sick; for others, it was less deadly, with natural evolution potentially reducing vulnerability over time. - The mRNA platform was touted as a means to outrun mutations, but the timeline to release was still insufficient to stay ahead of natural change. They note accelerated development was the fastest vaccine in history, from detection to inoculation, reducing the timeline by about a year or two, yet not fast enough. - Political and logistical factors delayed release; there is mention that it would not have appeared under Trump and that Eric Topol argued to delay the rollout. Fauci reportedly sent Moderna back to trials due to insufficient racial diversity in participants. - The discussion questions whether the vaccine qualifies as a normal consumer product, given ongoing subsidies, mandates, indemnifications, wartime-like supports, and propaganda. They wonder if there has been an ongoing two-century revolt by industry against public scrutiny, with public interest repeatedly leading to pushback and rebranding. - A central theme is the sophistication of pharma: the “game of pharma” involves owning an IP-based health claim, crafting supportive research, convincing it is safe and effective, achieving standard-of-care status, securing mandates and government funding, and leveraging ongoing propaganda. They describe pharma as a long-running arms race with deep institutional knowledge, implying that it is far more capable of shaping reality than the public realizes.

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The speaker brings up the fact that the pandemic created many new billionaires in the pharmaceutical industry. They mention that pharmaceutical companies funded the 2020 election and made huge profits, with Pfizer alone making $100 billion. They also highlight that the public funded the development of vaccines but didn't receive the profits. The speaker questions the economic system where companies benefit from crises, leading to perpetual crises that serve the interests of the elite rather than ordinary people.

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The COVID pandemic highlighted the tragic failures in the availability of vaccines and medicines. In response, the World Health Organization proposed a pandemic treaty in 2021, emphasizing equity as its core principle. This treaty aims to ensure that everyone, regardless of their circumstances or location, has access to life-saving resources. By promoting shared data and allocating resources more fairly, the treaty would bring together problem solvers from different populations and countries to better prepare and respond to future epidemics. It is crucial to address the inequities experienced during the pandemic to protect humanity, as viruses do not respect political borders. A shared future is our only way forward.

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- Speaker 0 describes a doctrine where an agent or pathogen works best as a binary weapon if followed by mass exposure with vaccines, noting the insistence on gene transfection technologies to create a peptide with a prion-catalyzing epitope and pointing out that lipid nanoparticles are highly labile and inflammatory, constituting a combination of chemical and biological warfare. - Speaker 0 adds that if this was a weapon release, it may be done and now data will reveal its effects, and expresses doubt about how much trust can be placed in normal scientific methods and institutions to relay data to the public, inviting Speaker 1’s thoughts. - Speaker 1 (Stephanie) says the discussion has been an incredible and difficult ride since things began unfolding, with questions about natural versus lab-based origins, vaccine development versus biowarfare, and concerns about funding by China for bioweapons, acknowledging the impossibility of definitively answering many questions. - Speaker 0 agrees that ambiguity is the point and calls it the strength of the weapon. - Speaker 1 asks why someone would inject something to inflict a bioweapon on the entire population, suggesting population control as a possible motivation. - Speaker 0 notes the need to consider literature from top transnational power structures and corporations, asserting that it is not hidden. - Speaker 1 recalls prior concerns about population-control vaccines, referencing reports about vaccines used in Argentina and Africa that allegedly caused infertility, describing an example where a vaccine given to teenage girls could lead to antibody development to a fetus, making infertility less detectable over time. She mentions a memory of a “benign disease” vaccination program in Argentina that led people to suspect infertility, and notes that it could be a stealth method. - Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the idea that vaccines may have had effects on fertility and reference terms like human chorionic something, with Speaker 1 acknowledging possible occurrences in India as well as Africa and Argentina. - Speaker 0 refers to bioaccumulation seen in reproductive organs and cites pharmacokinetic studies beginning in Japan, noting the vaccine’s presence in the placenta and testes and recalling reports of harmful effects on male reproductive organs. - Speaker 0 mentions Anna Burkhart’s data as dark regarding spike protein expression in reproductive organs found in autopsies, while acknowledging uncertainty about how much weight to attribute to that data, but maintaining that biowarfare cannot be dismissed. - The discussion returns to the mechanism of biowarfare being distinct from a pathogen, describing a scenario where exposure leads to effects years later due to the disease mechanism being induced, rather than immediate pathogen-driven illness.

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The speaker brings up the fact that the pandemic created many new billionaires in the pharmaceutical industry. They mention that pharmaceutical companies funded the 2020 election and made huge profits, with Pfizer alone making $100 billion. They also highlight that the public funded the development of vaccines but didn't benefit from the profits. The speaker questions the economic system where companies benefit from crises, suggesting it perpetuates a divide between the interests of ordinary people and the elite.

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Speaker 1 notes that ivermectin has broken through to the public sphere beyond COVID and is now discussed for many diseases. Speaker 0 asks where ivermectin stands in the scientific and medical community today and what other use cases exist for the medicine. Speaker 1 responds that thousands of doctors follow their data; 18,000 GI doctors see their data when they publish or present at the American College of Gastroenterology. Word-of-mouth in the medical community is a major form of marketing, with one doctor speaking to another. Referencing the COVID era, Speaker 1 mentions corruption and retractions, then describes ivermectin as having created a healthcare revolution where doctors have lined up to work to see other benefits of ivermectin without needing to ask permission to treat patients. A whole branch of healthcare is moving away from the same institute that Speaker 1 helped create drugs to market with his sisters. He says a group of doctors who had sponsored or helped pharma are turning away from pharma and exploring other methods to treat patients. He states his job is to unite doctors to see the truth, while bringing pharma back to being righteous and stopping data manipulation and scientist censorship. Speaker 1 references his book, Let’s Talk SH.T, acknowledging he could be wrong and challenging others to prove him wrong and reproduce the data to retract the hypothesis or paper. He emphasizes that the scientific process should be followed, especially when everything was done by the book and as well as he could. He adds that the research was not funded by others; it was funded by his savings. He created the microbiome research foundation with the goal of raising money to study kids with autism and to push an IND to the FDA, which cost about $600,000 to obtain FDA approval. He clarifies that no external party paid for this work, and he continues to struggle to raise funds to treat poor autistic kids who cannot afford expensive stool testing, drugs, and vitamins; they need help and everyone should step in to assist these kids. Speaker 1 concludes that their focus is fixing autism, with the aim of later addressing Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and cancer.

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In 2018, remdesivir, described as one of my favorite targets, was deemed too unethical to put into Ebola clinical trials in Africa because it had a fifty-three percent kill rate published in medical journals. The speaker notes that Ebola doesn’t have a fifty-three percent kill rate, yet in April and May 2020 it was chosen to be the drug of choice to treat COVID. The drug was considered too unethical to use in an African clinical trial because it was killing fifty-three percent of the people to whom it was given. The speaker asserts that Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx were sitting next to the president advocating the use of remdesivir despite the World Health Organization stating it was unethical to use it. The central problem identified is that, as long as the financial interest that dictates which product is promoted is the one making the declaration of the pandemic, there is no possibility for accountability and no possibility for justice. The speaker argues that the decision-making is influenced by a lineage described as having emerged from the Eugenics office, specifically naming Carnegie Mellon in 1913, the same group of people that established the World Health Organization in 1953. The speaker claims that this same group is the one making the current decisions. The speaker asks the audience to consider their feelings about Eugenics and concludes by expressing a problem with it, tying these connections to the governance and promotion of pandemic responses.

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Speaker 0: "Are actually young global leaders of the world of. We penetrate the cabinets. The change is not just happening. The change can be shaped by us. We have to prepare for a more lot thing that think do. Only that we had and everything will be normal again. This is, let's say, fiction. It will not happen." Speaker 1: "There is only one way this pandemic is going to go."

Unlimited Hangout

Framing Surveillance and Eugenics as “Healthcare” with Johnny Vedmore

Guests: Johnny Vedmore

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Whitney Webb and Johnny Vedmore discuss how elite institutions that steered COVID-19 policies are moving to shape a post-COVID world, focusing on Welcome Leap and the Trinity Challenge, and tracing their ties to the Wellcome Trust, the Gates Foundation, DARPA, and Silicon Valley. They note Welcome Leap’s deep links to the Wellcome Trust, which was involved with the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine, and highlight a framework in which philanthropy blends with biotech and for‑profit entities. They quote a Sunday Times profile describing Wellcome as a vehicle where “what Henry Welcom set out was a double edged scheme to run a business and a charity together. The flagship would be a philanthropic body, now the Wellcome Trust, enjoying the image and tax benefits of magnanimous public spirited generosity. But behind this would operate, industrial organizations and, straight up and down for profit corporations.” They ask who holds more sway over public policy—Bill Gates or the Wellcome Trust?—noting overlap between Gates Foundation and Wellcome Trust in the developing world. They discuss Welcome Leap’s leadership: Regina Dugan, who began at DARPA in 1996, leading a program that won awards for identifying land mines, then headed a counterism task force, and later created a defense‑focused tech firm Red X Defense that contracted with the military. Dugan “greenlighted DARPA's investment in mRNA vaccine technology” and, after leaving DARPA, was recruited by Google to lead Building 8, with projects including “digital tattoo” and “digital authentication pill,” and a focus on neural wearables and transhumanist aims. Dugan’s association with the Clinton Global Initiative and Bilderberg, and her role in Google’s DARPA‑like efforts, are cited as part of a broader transhumanist trajectory. Ken Gabriel, COO of Welcome Leap, is described as a DARPA veteran who led MEMS research, worked with both the FBI and CIA, and later joined Draper Labs before becoming involved with the Wellcome Trust; he sits on the Galvani Bioelectronics board, linking GlaxoSmithKline, Google, and Verily. Jay Flatley, Illumina’s longtime chief, is highlighted as a genomics power broker tied to the World Economic Forum and a push to gene‑tested populations from birth to grave. The four Welcome Leap programs are introduced. HOPE stands for human organs, physiology, and engineering, with aims to grow and translate organ systems that “will have a functional immune system,” potentially replacing animal trials and advancing bioengineering for transplantable organs and synthetic hybrid organs. The second program, the “first thousand days,” targets infants from three months to three years, outlining “wearables, constant twenty four seven surveillance of children,” including respiratory rate, heart rate, eye tracking, and ambient data to build an “in silico” AI model of a child’s brain, with the goal of having “eighty percent of children” matched to the synthetic model within ten years. The third program, Delta Tissue, is described as precision medicine to map cells and tissues for cancer prediction and prevention, potentially enabling AI‑driven interventions. The fourth, Multi Channel Psych, aims to study “anhedonia” and to develop brain stimulation interventions to shape behavior, including mood quantification, and to create scalable measurement tools via wearables that monitor mood, sleep, social interactions, and reward processing. They turn to the Trinity Challenge, chaired by Dame Sally Davies, with founding members including the University of Hong Kong, Cambridge, Northeastern, Imperial College London, and corporations such as Microsoft, Facebook, Google, GlaxoSmithKline, and McKinsey, plus the Gates Foundation, Tencent, Aviva, and a Global Virome Project linked to EcoHealth Alliance and USAID. The grand prize went to POD (participatory one health disease detection) led by Open Dream in Thailand, with Matt Parker connected to Salesforce; Jane Sexbot (a child sex‑education chatbot) was another project. Founding members include the Skull Global Threats Fund, tied to Jeffrey Skoll, and its leadership connected to Google, Salesforce, the WEF, and CFR, underscoring the convergence of tech, pharma, and policy elites in shaping surveillance, data analytics, and predictive health, framed as preventing pandemics but described as moving toward surveillance, eugenics, and transhumanism. They warn that post‑COVID agendas are being advanced behind distractions about variants, urging pushback and accountability.

All In Podcast

E35: Biogen's controversial Alzheimer's drug approval, the billionaire space race, Bitcoin & more

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In this episode of the All In podcast, the hosts discuss various topics, starting with Chamath's location in Europe and the unusual weather patterns he observed, which he attributes to climate change. The conversation shifts to Biogen's newly FDA-approved Alzheimer's drug, Aducanumab, the first new treatment in nearly two decades. Friedberg explains that while the drug does not cure Alzheimer's, it may slow its progression. The approval process was controversial, with three FDA advisory panel members resigning due to concerns over the drug's modest efficacy. The hosts debate the implications of the drug's high price of $56,000 per year, considering the ethical questions surrounding pharmaceutical pricing and the responsibility of insurance companies. Chamath highlights the demographic disparities in Alzheimer's prevalence, noting that the disease disproportionately affects women and minorities. He also discusses the historical context of failed Alzheimer's drugs and the potential for this approval to stimulate further research and innovation in the field. The discussion continues with a critique of the FDA's approval process, questioning the rationale behind approving a drug with limited evidence of clinical benefit. Sacks argues for a more lenient approach to drug approvals for terminal illnesses, suggesting that patients should have access to potentially helpful treatments. The hosts also touch on the economic implications of high drug prices and the challenges posed by Medicare's reimbursement policies. As the conversation evolves, they explore broader themes of innovation, competition, and the regulatory landscape in biotechnology, emphasizing the need for a balance between safety and accessibility. The episode concludes with reflections on the future of healthcare, the importance of fostering innovation, and the societal implications of current policies.

The Pomp Podcast

Pomp Podcast #247: Jason Williams, Operational Challenges in Healthcare Around COVID-19

Guests: Jason Williams

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Jason Williams, a partner at Morgan Creek Digital and former physician assistant, discusses the impact of COVID-19 on the healthcare system. He highlights his extensive background in healthcare, including founding FastMed, which handled 1.5 million patient visits annually. Williams notes that during economic downturns, healthcare utilization typically increases, but the pandemic has caused a unique drop in ancillary services due to social distancing. Hospitals are overwhelmed with high-acuity patients while elective procedures, crucial for revenue, have ceased. He emphasizes the need for federal aid to support hospitals struggling with PPE shortages and operational challenges. Williams predicts consolidation in the healthcare industry, with larger systems acquiring struggling community hospitals and a significant rise in telemedicine adoption. He also discusses regulatory changes, such as relaxed HIPAA standards, which may lead to lasting innovations in patient care. The conversation underscores the intertwined nature of health and economic crises, stressing the urgency for a comprehensive response plan.