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Speaker 0 says “it's clear that they're covering something and protecting someone or some people” and notes “there are a lot of powerful Democrats that are also on that list,” adding “there's definitely something being held back” and that it won't come out until this administration's progress. Speaker 1 references an OMG exclusive: FBI analyst Mitchell Rosas admitting that “the bureau and the administration is covering up the Epstein files,” and Rosas adds that “a lot of powerful Democrats are on that list.” They recall, “we're gonna release everything on JFK. We're gonna release everything on MLK. We're gonna release everything on Epstein” but, “Oh, never mind. We found some or it's like, oh, no. It turns out there is no list.” The piece says “the Department of Justice redacted every single word of the probable cause used to obtain the search warrant, the raid of my newsroom” and “The truth only comes out because brave people on the inside choose courage over silence.” They invite tips to OMG and promote the podcast “What's the name of your podcast? Price is my life. The Price is My Reelection, I would say.”

Speaker 0 delivers a rapid-fire set of bragging lines about wealth, fashion, and success: “Go see my eyes red on my demons,” “My postie racks up just to motivate my niggas,” “Rappers need a stylist bad, but I ain't use a stylist yet,” “I signed a million dollar contracts in my box to steal a text,” “Wake up, check my bank account, phone numbers in there, bitch. I'm blessed,” and references to private jets, being fresh off the press, sipping drinks with lines, a tinted eye, a moving piece, and owning a new bulletproof Cadillac. He notes money, private flights, and the ability to charge for Instagram content, while cutting off a girl who didn’t pick up. The tone centers on opulent lifestyle, independence, and status. Speaker 1 shifts to a hostile, accusatory monologue: “All over the place, guys. Jack Kosoviak, Gabe Hoffman, Mike Cernovich, Laura Loomer.” He claims Gabe Hoffman “is running humps on people” and calls him a “bad guy.” He says he looks like he’s seen a ghost and that someone close to him was there to infiltrate him, describing these people as “really fucking bad” and stating they are “evil,” including claims of them being “unregistered foreign agents.” He asserts he will be watching everything they do and declares ongoing surveillance and vigilance: “I will be watching. Everything you do, I’m gonna be watching.” Speaker 2 notes a logistical detail: “Hell yeah. On my way back to the site to get my burner phone so I can use my ghost accounts…” indicating plans to obtain a burner phone for anonymous or modified online activity. Speaker 3 adds a blunt, explicit line about using “ghost accounts” for actions, saying, “can use my ghost accounts to fuck,” reinforcing the theme of covert or deceptive online activity. Overall, the transcript juxtaposes an ostentatious wealth/aspirational rap persona (Speaker 0) with a conspiratorial, accusatory stance toward specific public figures (Speaker 1), and mentions of circumventing scrutiny or anonymity online (Speaker 2 and Speaker 3). The named individuals identified by Speaker 1 are Jack Kosoviak, Gabe Hoffman, Mike Cernovich, and Laura Loomer.

The speakers discuss a perceived “concerted effort” and a “politics of personal destruction.” Speaker 0 insults John Podesta with, “Fuck you, John Podesta.” Speaker 1 responds, “Well, you see where I'm coming from.” Speaker 0 continues with, “Okay.” Speaker 1 adds, “When I talk, that's because I'm interested in this ongoing whatever the hell,” and Speaker 0 asks, “they're doing. What's in your closet, John Podesta? Big Podesta? Big Soros? Do you want us to play these games?” concluding, “Because we're playing to win.”

Speaker 1 says that the real information about the Epstein files has not come out and that “there were only four Republicans, four of us that’s really fought to get them released,” who “signed the discharge petition, went against the White House,” and were “threatened,” with Donald Trump calling him a traitor and saying his friends would be hurt. He questions why anyone would vote for Republicans if the administration doesn’t release all the information, framing it as a line in the sand for many people. Speaker 0 asks why they think the Epstein files are being hidden. Speaker 1 responds that it’s because the hidden information would protect “some of the most rich, powerful people,” arguing that Epstein was “definitely some sort of part of the intelligence state” who was “working with Israel” and with the “former prime minister of Israel.” He asserts that these are “the dirty parts of government and the powers that be that they don’t want the American people to know about.” He concludes that, sadly, he doesn’t think the files will come out. Speaker 0 presses on whether Trump is in the Epstein files. Speaker 1 speculates that if someone is “living under blackmail” or “living under threat” and told not to release information, that fear could influence actions. He suggests that someone might be warned by threats to prevent disclosure, giving a hypothetical example: after standing on a rally stage, you could be shot in the ear and warned that “next time we won’t miss,” or that the bullet might be for someone you care about. He says he is “speculating,” but notes he has “a strong enough reason to speculate like that.”

The conversation centers on the Epstein file controversy, the DOJ's handling of it, and what the speakers see as systemic failures and political risk for Donald Trump and allied figures. - The Epstein/file issue is framed as predictable and frustrating. Alex Jones notes a “slow drip of nothing” and calls the initial promise of full file disclosure a pattern of “promise something, deliver nothing.” Pam Bondi’s statement that “the files were on my desk” is discussed as an apparent misstep or staged moment, but the core point is that large amounts of material are not being released despite public promises. - The discourse questions where the files actually reside and who controls access. The claim that a “truckload of files” existed and was hidden at DOJ is rejected as a mischaracterization; the speakers emphasize that the FBI and DOJ have files, but access and disclosure have been hampered by internal political dynamics. They highlight the tension between the Southern District of New York and the DOJ, noting that SDNY answers to the DOJ and the Attorney General, thereby questioning the premise that one regional office is independently sabotaging access. - There is a persistent critique of DOJ leadership and governance. The argument is that DOJ has not been “rooted out of corruption,” with mid-level and high-level managers and appointees still in place, propagating practices that the speakers deem contrary to transparency and accountability. They point to supposed failures by individuals such as Cash Patel and Pam Bondi in relying on FBI briefings rather than verifiable records, suggesting that power in intelligence agencies is still too dependent on information control. - The Epstein files are treated as emblematic of a broader issue: a two-tier or selective justice system. The speakers argue that there’s a pattern whereby powerful individuals have access to information and protection, while the public lacks full visibility. They mention that Trump’s response and the way the files have been handled have become a larger “Russiagate-like” narrative, with Epstein serving as a lightning rod for accusations of corruption and cover-up. - The political dynamic is central. Several participants emphasize that Trump’s stance and the responses of his allies are under intense scrutiny. They discuss the risk that Trump’s association with the Epstein disclosures could become a political liability if the files aren’t released. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tom Massey are mentioned as consistent voices pushing for full disclosure, while Roger Stone’s warnings about CIA and foreign involvement in the Epstein nexus are cited as supporting the view that a larger, international financial/transnational network may be implicated. - There is criticism of how the media and political opponents handle the issue. The speakers claim Democrats are using hearings to turn the Epstein matter into a broader political weapon and to portray Trump as obstructive or complicit, regardless of the factual state of file disclosure. They argue that the public is being led by a PR war, with “photoshopped” or redacted material used to frame narratives rather than to reveal truth. - The discussion turns toward accountability and remedies. The speakers insist that federal law requires the release of the Epstein files by a deadline, and that failing to comply constitutes a constitutional or institutional crisis. They argue that Congress lacks direct enforcement power and must consider funding or other leverage to compel compliance, noting the apparent reluctance of Congress to act decisively. - There are predictions about personnel changes and institutional reform. Dan Bongino is discussed as likely to depart from his DOJ-related role, with Todd Blanche as the lead prosecutor taking heat for not meeting deadlines. Andrew Bailey is floated as a potential replacement. The broader implication is that there will be a shake-up in DOJ and possibly FBI leadership in the near term, though the speakers acknowledge uncertainty about how far reforms will go or whether entrenched interests will impede real change. - The Epstein matter is used to illustrate how compromises and cover-ups operate across power structures. The speakers argue that the problem isn’t just the existence of the files but how the system treats those files—how access is controlled, how redactions are justified, and how political narratives are constructed around high-profile investigations. Harmony Dillon and Liz Harrington are cited as voices who underscore the need for mid-level reform and more transparency, suggesting that the deepest issues lie in organizational culture and incentives rather than in isolated acts by a few individuals. - A broader reflection on American governance finishes the discussion. The speakers warn that a failure to release the Epstein files or to purge corrupt practices could deepen distrust in federal institutions and threaten the legitimacy of the government. They suggest that if reform stalls, the country might devolve into a state-by-state dynamic or other less cohesive arrangements, as confidence in a functioning central government erodes. In summary, the transcript frames the Epstein file disclosures as a litmus test for DOJ integrity and political accountability. It portrays a pattern of delayed or selective disclosure, questions about who controls information within the FBI/DOJ, and a risk that political calculations are interfering with lawful obligations. It also foresees significant leadership changes and intensified scrutiny of the department in the near future, with Epstein serving as a focal point for broader critiques of how power and information are managed in the United States.

Speaker 0: You've seen most of the files. Who, if anyone, did Epstein traffic these young young women to besides himself? Speaker 1: Himself, there is no credible information. None. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. And the in information we have, again, is limited. Speaker 0: So the answer is no one? Speaker 1: For the information that we have. Speaker 0: In the files? Speaker 1: In the case file. Speaker 0: Okay. Now

Speaker 0 presents a very quick briefing and discusses the credibility of the different things they've seen. They say, "these files were made up by the sea. They were made up by Obama. They were made" as a claim about the files’ origin, with the sentence trailing off in the transcript.

The speaker states that files were fabricated by Comey, Obama, and Biden. They claim to have spent years dealing with similar situations, referencing the "Russia Russia Russia hoax." The speaker says that someone, presumably the person who gave the briefing, handled the situation well. They conclude that it is up to that person to decide what is credible and should be released.

The first speaker says Epstein files are going to be released, and they hope soon, but there are no dates. They mention there are tens and thousands of videos, and that it’s all for little kids, so they have to go through everyone. The second speaker notes that James O'Keefe got that video.

Speaker 0: The time game is over. Justice with General Flynn. They criticize the Department of Just Us and recall a past moment when they would have been brought into the DOJ in handcuffs. Speaker 1: Delivers a stream of violent, braggadocious lyrics about weapons, killings, and dominance, including references to shooting, trafficking, and threatening rivals. The content emphasizes keeping enemies in check, physical violence, and material wealth, with repeated lines about not losing sleep over killers, firing weapons, and "run it up" for money and power. Speaker 2: Argues that many people gaining sudden large followings on Twitter or talking about topics like low taxes or transgender pronouns may be pedophiles, suggesting conservative media uses people with criminal pasts as influencers. States that such individuals say things to align with a broader agenda and mentions Israel in the context of a broader critique of conservative priorities. Concludes with a tip to contact Charlie Cook for those seeking a "second act" in public life. Speaker 3: Kyle Clifton discusses an after-party associated with TPUSA’s America Fest in Phoenix on December 19, called the Grand Young Party. The party reportedly featured girls dancing half-naked on stage, girls locked in cages, underage drinking, stripper poles, sex on the dance floor, and mentions “strange ritual Zionist extremism.” He notes promo footage from Florida and Phoenix, blurred faces of attendees, and that age did not matter if the attendee knew the organizer, Joe Bazrawi. Background is provided on Maverick events as the organizers. He reports a security guard tackled an 18-year-old patron, causing injuries; police encouraged filing a report for assault. Parents of other female patrons are considering lawsuits for supplying minors with alcohol. The event was advertised as a TPUSA America Fest after party, hosted by TPUSA ambassador/employee Joe Bazrawi, whose travel and lodging were paid for by TPUSA. He claims TPUSA was aware of and encouraged the party, and that Bazrawi maintains a private dossier on conservatives who oppose his party or beliefs to blacklist them from TPUSA events. Bazrawi allegedly attends other events to photograph attendees for his dossier and share with TPUSA executives. Attendees allegedly included Matt Gaetz, with rumors that James O’Keefe and Madison Cawthorn were present; photos are mentioned. Questions are raised about TPUSA’s responsibility for hosting unsanctioned events with high-profile guests and potential legal consequences or PR damage. The after-party reportedly had about 30–40 attendees leave early; refunds were issued to some in response to public comments, while others did not receive refunds. Some attendees were admitted as late as 1:45 AM; the event ended at 2 AM. Ticketing was disorganized, with staff not knowing who attended. Local Antifa chapters reportedly planned to submit stories to CNN to harm Matt Gaetz’s career. The speaker expresses concern about the conservatism movement’s image and the potential implications for Gaetz and Cawthorn. Speaker 4: The Vault claims to possess extensive material—video, pictures, emails, audio, text messages, phone calls—on everyone and to be willing to drop it all. The speaker has “a lot of crap on Richard Spencer and everybody else” and suggests signing up for Telegram to access this material. Speaker 5–6: Expressions of fear or alarm from the audience, with a call to “Dale” and a plea for help or relief, indicating tension or distress in the room.

The conversation centers on the Seth Rich murder and its alleged connection to WikiLeaks and the 2016 DNC email controversy. An FBI forensic report purportedly found that Rich contacted WikiLeaks through a London-based WikiLeaks director, Gavin McFadden, and Rich allegedly provided McFadden with more than 44,000 emails and nearly 18,000 attachments. Rich was killed near his DC home on July 10, but his wallet, phone, and watch were not taken. WikiLeaks published internal DNC emails twelve days later, showing top DNC officials discussing ways to hurt Bernie Sanders at the polls, which contributed to the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz as DNC chair and the DNC’s top three officials. Speaker 1 questions whether there is an “October surprise” and whether material is being held. Speaker 2 of the Helix group states that they do not sit on material and emphasizes that whistleblowers take significant risks; they note Rich’s murder as an example of high stakes and risk to sources, asserting that sources seek anonymity with them. When Speaker 1 asks if Rich was a source, Speaker 2 declines to comment but says they are investigating what happened to Rich and are concerned about it, though no conclusion has been reached. Speaker 3 argues that Rich was a Bernie Sanders supporter who worked for the DNC and asserts that the DNC rigged the primary against Sanders; he notes that Rich was aware of this and was involved as it happened, with Donald Brazil also involved. He describes Rich as idealistic and patriotic, and recounts his murder after leaking information to WikiLeaks, insisting that this is not a conspiracy theory but a fact-based concern. He challenges others to acknowledge the alleged corruption within the Democratic party and suggests that those who ignore the facts are engaging in denial. He also critiques media portrayals and online accusations about his own credibility. Speaker 4 discusses Assange and WikiLeaks, criticizing the idea of a conspiracy theory and labeling Assange as a key figure who exposed corruption. He mentions that Assange now “works for Russia” and questions the Ecuadorian embassy situation, describing it as heavily manipulated by interests around Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. He connects the Seth Rich disclosures to broader allegations of a coordinated effort to undermine Clinton and her circle, while acknowledging that some related claims may be questionable. Speaker 6 notes that hacking of the DNC and the role of CrowdStrike remain controversial and points to the subsequent murder of Rich as a focal point for questions that have not been fully explored by the media. Speaker 7 echoes concerns about the timeline, the FBI’s involvement, and past inquiries that were not pursued, emphasizing a sense that the case and the broader narrative around the DNC emails have been inadequately examined. Speaker 8 presents a long, conspiratorial narrative alleging that on 11/01/2016 Hillary and Bill Clinton orchestrated a civilian coup through corruption and co-option of key institutions, while a countercoup through Julian Assange and WikiLeaks was initiated to undermine Hillary and the Clinton machine. The speaker claims a silent countercoup across the Internet, led by members of the intelligence community, to stop the Clintons from gaining power and ensure Obama leaves without pardon, framing the moment as a major transitional event and a second American revolution conducted without guns.

There is no client list detailing people Jeffrey Epstein trafficked. Instead, there is a redacted FBI affidavit from accusers accusing various people of improper sex. The speaker, as the former lawyer involved in investigations, knows the identities of those redacted, but claims none are public figures currently in office. Some were previously in office, and some are dead. The redactions are the result of court orders from two judges in Manhattan protecting alleged victims. Pam Bondi, the Justice Department, and Donald Trump are not responsible for these redactions, and the speaker is unaware of any undisclosed information they could release. The speaker claims the vast majority of names in the files are already public knowledge, appearing in articles and books. The speaker believes the media has not done enough to find the people already disclosed in the public record.

The speakers discuss powerful individuals who want to keep Speaker 0 out. Speaker 0 believes they should want him because he is a great candidate, but Speaker 1 suggests it's about control and being on their team. Speaker 0 refuses to make a deal with these people and sees it as a battle worth fighting. Speaker 1 mentions the importance of raising money to win and suggests pausing rather than going away. Speaker 0 disagrees and vows to be the biggest pain for these people, even if it means they might try to kill him. Speaker 1 understands but advises caution.

Speaker 0 admits to never believing that the CIA killed Kennedy. Speaker 1 claims to have read the entire JFK file, including the secret information and the 7 pages of the 911 report. Speaker 0 warns against sharing what they have seen, as they could be bribed. Speaker 1 mentions being bribed in Texas. Speaker 0 introduces themselves as Cash and mentions JFK and UFOs.

Documents are being suppressed to protect individuals, and the speaker knows the names of those individuals, why they're being suppressed, and who is suppressing them. However, the speaker is bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases and cannot disclose this information. The speaker knows the names of people whose files are being suppressed for protection, which they believe is wrong. The individuals being protected are politicians and business leaders, among others.

Speaker 0: "That's not corruption. That's leverage. And leverage is how you remove power without triggering collapse." Speaker 0: "If they had the leverage on Trump, they would have used it already, but they haven't because they don't." Speaker 1: "And the reason why the Epstein list will not come out, like I've said from the beginning, is because it is an intelligence operation." Speaker 1: "The best form of currency right now for control and power in our world is videos or pictures of children being abused by certain adults." Speaker 1: "The moment you prosecute a pedophile that would be on that list, you lose the leverage on them, and you also risk them telling the rest of the story." Speaker 1: "This is the reality that I want people to understand."

The speaker claims to know that documents are being suppressed to protect individuals, and knows the names of those individuals, why they are being suppressed, and who is suppressing them. However, the speaker states they are bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases, and cannot disclose what they know. When asked if those being protected are politicians, business leaders, or both, the speaker responds that they are everything.

Speaker 0: I’m a little pissed at the New York Times, honestly. But since you’re listening, I believe in your mission. When you write a technically completely illiterate article, you lose a lot of credibility if people are technical. That article about us being a surveillance thing is like where it’s all implied, what we do. The problem is you lose credibility with anyone who goes on the thing. That’s damaging for our democracy. Speaker 1: ask you this. And I’ll Speaker 0: look left and right. One thing I would say to people in the audience: you know you’re a lot of you think I’m right. And you know your spouse, your relative, your child, the person at work would be horrified if they knew it. You better speak up, because everyone who thinks I’m a ridiculous fascist, they’re speaking up. They write about it every day. If you do not speak up, the people who are disagreeing with me or think I’m stupid a lot, I disagree with myself. So, you have to speak up. And you cannot blame the far left, far right idiots. When they speak up for their views, do you speak up for your views? Where? Do you tell your colleague, I bet you at The New York Times a lot of people read that article about us and were ashamed. Did you go to your editor and say, how can you write something that’s technically illiterate? The guy might be a fascist, but this is technically illiterate. Okay. Speaker 1: Let me ask you different question. Speaker 0: Did you or didn’t you? Because I’m the only one speaking up. You’re gonna get a world of technical illiteracy on the right, on the left, and in the middle. Speaker 1: Alex, help me with this. A lot of Speaker 0: people

Both speakers were members of the secret society Skull and Bones, but they cannot discuss it. This secrecy will fuel conspiracy theories. Speaker 0 mentions a web number 322, but they haven't seen it. Speaker 0 is determined not to lose and has a clear vision for leading the country.

The transcript captures a short, informal discussion about Donald Trump’s handling of the Epstein files and the broader question of whether presidents protect rich and powerful people at the expense of victims in sex-crime cases. The dialogue unfolds between Speaker 0 and Speaker 1, with a recent history/politics flavor and an on-the-record moment later in the exchange. Speaker 0 begins by asking Speaker 1 how Trump fought to avoid releasing the Epstein files, noting that Trump initially indicated a release but then reversed course. Speaker 1 responds noncommittally, suggesting that Trump “probably” had friends who were involved and that Trump “saved them” from trouble. The question is framed as whether this constitutes presidential conduct—protecting powerful people rather than victims. Speaker 0 presses further, asking if protecting rich and powerful people over sex-crime victims is appropriate for a president, and whether such behavior is common in presidential history. Speaker 1 counters by pointing to historical examples, stating that many presidents have favored their friends and families, adding that while JFK’s affairs were noted, he claims Kennedy “got caught,” implying possible crimes. Speaker 0 acknowledges Kennedy’s infidelity but questions whether there were crimes, while Speaker 1 reiterates the point that Kennedy “got caught,” and asserts that such behavior is not becoming of a United States president. The conversation shifts toward evaluating current leadership: Speaker 0 asks whether Speaker 1 agrees with Trump’s protection of powerful individuals at the expense of crime victims. Speaker 1 answers, “All depends on who the powerful people are,” suggesting a conditional view rather than a blanket condemnation or approval. The discussion then veers to the expectation that a president should serve all Americans, not just the wealthy, and Speaker 0 reiterates the moral question. Speaker 1, initially evasive about personal details, asserts that they are a state representative and holds a badge, claiming to work for their country. The exchange ends with a sense of irony in the narrator’s commentary: the “moral of the story” being that it’s acceptable for Donald Trump to protect rich and powerful men because he himself is rich and powerful, effectively equating protection of the powerful with personal parity. Overall, the transcript presents a back-and-forth debate about why presidents might shield powerful individuals, how historical precedents factor into current judgments, and whether leadership should be equally accountable to all segments of society, ending with a skeptical, wrap-up sentiment about the perceived fairness of such protections.

Weed through a complete searchable database of 26,000 files related to Jeffrey Epstein. The speaker has spent hours and hours examining these files and will spend the coming days giving an inside look at them. A taste of the range of materials includes bizarre emails where Epstein is suspiciously dumping lists of names, including Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, and Woody Allen. There are emails over the years in which Epstein works with outside consultants to scrub Google search results and essentially bleach the Internet of bad press, claiming they can provide reinforcement from sites like Harvard and other publications they influence to meet Epstein’s needs. In another email, Epstein and Larry Summers, the former Harvard president and board member for OpenAI, are emailing about an article involving Donald Trump and Bill Clinton. Epstein mysteriously says he has some great stories after just coming back from a week of “Jeffrey style” meetings. There are also many emails related to Trump. Despite Trump’s public claim that the whole affair is a scam—with arrows pointing to the Democrats—the files show that he is mentioned in these emails more than anyone else. The speaker invites audiences to follow along as these files are examined and to work to hold everyone involved accountable.

Speaker 1 questions why House Republicans haven't released Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book, which is under the FBI director's control, to expose alleged pedophiles. When asked if he would declassify the Epstein files, Speaker 1 says he would, but expresses concern about potentially affecting people's lives if the information is phony. Speaker 0 says the issue is bigger than Epstein, 9/11, JFK, or RFK, and asks who is on the Epstein tapes and in the black books, questioning why this information has been hidden. Speaker 3 mentions Donald Trump has discussed the DOJ potentially releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Speaker 2 claims that the release is under review, following a directive by President Trump, stating that everything will come out to the public because Americans have a right to know.

Speaker 0 argues that conspiracy theories have been made to look like lunacy, noting that the Kennedy assassination popularized the term “conspiracy theorist.” He says it wasn’t widely used before Kennedy, but afterward it became a label for “kooks,” and he’s repeatedly been called that. Speaker 1 acknowledges this dynamic. He and Speaker 0 discuss what a conspiracy is—“more people working together to do something nefarious?”—and Speaker 0 asserts that conspiracies have always happened. He disputes the view that most conspiracies are due to ineptitude, insisting that when there is profit, power, control, and resources involved, most conspiracies, in fact, turn out to be true. He adds that the deeper you dig, the more you realize there’s a concerted effort to make conspiracies seem ridiculous so people won’t be seen as fools. Speaker 1 remarks on the ridicule as well, and Speaker 0 reiterates his own self-description: “I am a conspiracy theorist,” a “foolish person,” and “a professional clown.” He mocks the idea that being labeled foolish is a barrier, and reflects on how others perceive him. Speaker 0 then provides specific, provocative examples of conspiracies he believes are real: Gulf of Tonkin was faked to justify U.S. entry into Vietnam; production of heroin ramped up to 94% of the world’s supply once the U.S. occupied Afghanistan; and the CIA, in the United States, allegedly sold heroin or cocaine in Los Angeles ghettos to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. He states clearly that these claims are real and asserts that there are conspiracy theorists who are “fucking real.” Speaker 1 pushes back on reputation and judgment, and Speaker 0 reaffirms his self-identification as a conspiracy theorist who faces mockery. Speaker 1 suggests that this stance might give him a “superpower.”

Bezos owning the Washington Post is described as an arm of the CIA, a claim raised by Speaker 0. He suggests that the newspaper is part of a broader pattern where media power is consolidated in the hands of a few billionaires, accusing the outlet of being used to push a particular agenda. Speaker 1 responds dismissively to that assertion and mentions Ellison taking over of [text incomplete in the transcript], signaling ongoing concerns about who controls major media and institutions. The conversation continues with Speaker 0 asserting that Barry Weiss is trying to squash real news and hide it, and that reporters who are doing real journalism are being targeted, framed as investigations or actions run by a few billionaires who control much of the media landscape. A related critique follows, declaring Bill Clinton a “slimeball” for deregulating the Federal Communications Act of 1996. The speakers reference the consequence that there were thousands of independent radio stations, television stations, and newspapers before deregulation, and now six companies control 92% of the media as a result of that action, calling Clinton a “lousy little slime ball.” The discussion moves into personal remarks about Monica Lewinsky, with a claim that “I didn’t have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky,” followed by derisive language directed at Bill Clinton, describing him as “that little clown.” The conversation then shifts to the Epstein files, with frustration expressed about why those files are not being released. The speakers criticize the redaction of the Epstein files and question, “Where the hell are these Epstein files?” They argue that the redactions are to protect individuals, using charged language to describe the situation as disgusting, and they call for the files to be made public. The topic then turns to the DOJ’s handling of redactions related to Congressman Thomas Massey. The DOJ reportedly missed deadlines to provide reasons for the redactions to Massey and “walked right past his deadline.” The speakers say they interviewed Massey on the show, reiterating that the DOJ violated the deadline and ignored the will of the people, with the DOJ referred to as the “DOJ, Department of Jerkoffs.” Finally, Massey is praised as one of the top lawmakers, described as one of the few in Congress who is truly respected, and “one of a kind,” with Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 expressing strong admiration for his work and integrity.

The speaker contends that the real reason for hard efforts to prevent the release of the files for months is to protect billionaires, friends of the speaker and associated political donors. They claim Epstein had close ties to our own intelligence agencies and Israel's intelligence agencies, and argue that there will be attempts to stop this somewhere else, which they believe will backfire.