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When criticism of Israeli policies arises, the tactic is often to label dissenters as anti-Semitic. This strategy involves invoking the Holocaust when Europeans criticize Israel and using the power and influence of the American Jewish establishment to stifle criticism in the US. Those who defend Israel unquestioningly refuse to acknowledge any wrongdoing and dismiss critics as anti-Semitic, justifying actions against Palestinians.

It's a trick we Israelis often use. When Europeans criticize Israel, we bring up the Holocaust. Here in America, critics of Israel are labeled anti-Semitic. The ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment are strong. They are a talented group of people and wield power in media and money. Their attitude is "Israel, my country, right or wrong". They aren't open to criticism. It's easy to dismiss those who criticize the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, evoking the Holocaust and Jewish suffering to justify our actions towards the Palestinians.

An Israeli Jew responds to the accusation of anti-Semitism when criticizing Israeli government policies. They explain that it's a common trick to silence dissent by invoking the Holocaust or labeling critics as anti-Semitic. The strong ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment, along with their power in media and finances, contribute to this dynamic. The speaker emphasizes that this attitude of unquestioning support for Israel and the reluctance to accept criticism allows for the justification of actions against Palestinians.

An Israeli Jew responds to the accusation of anti-Semitism when criticizing Israeli government policies. They explain that it's a common trick to silence dissent by invoking the Holocaust or labeling critics as anti-Semitic. The strong ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment, along with their power, money, and media influence, contribute to this dynamic. The speaker points out that this attitude of unquestioning support for Israel and the reluctance to accept criticism allows the Israeli government to justify their actions against Palestinians.

Speaker 0 argues that Israel, through its lobby, has manifested so much power over the United States Congress that the country is embroiled in wars they believe they should not be in. He states that whenever Israel is mentioned, someone claims you’re an anti-Semite, and he contends that policies in the Middle East have been one-sided and subjective, leading to many enemies and the importing of terrorists as a consequence. He asserts: “Israel through their lobby has manifested total power of the congress of the United,” and expresses a concern that taxpayers and the citizens of the United States should control their government, not a foreign entity. Speaker 1 challenges these assertions, saying: “You did. That’s not what you said. You said they’re controlling our foreign policy. They’re controlling our domestic policy.” He presses back, stating: “That quote, they are influencing and the sole control of influencing of our domestic policy is an absurdity. It sounds like you are a kook.” He explicitly disputes the idea that Israel controls the Congress and domestic policy. Speaker 0 clarifies, “I believe they control the senate and the house foreign affairs committee.” Speaker 1 repeats that claim as insane, prompting Speaker 0 to insist: “I’m not suggesting it. I served in congress for seven…,” implying a longer service and experience to support his concerns, though the sentence is cut off. The exchange centers on claims of disproportionate Israeli influence in U.S. federal policy, the objectivity of Middle East policy, and the contention that foreign lobbies, particularly related to Israel, have undue power over congressional decision-making, contrasted with direct rebuttals labeling such claims as irrational or insane.

Nick Fuentes discusses being enemy number one to the government, citing being on the no-fly list and having bank accounts frozen. He says questioning the Israel lobby in 2017 led to backlash. He describes being blacklisted by conservatives and social media censorship, including being banned from platforms and banks due to "reputational risk." Fuentes says he was a libertarian neocon in his youth, consuming Breitbart and Prager University content. He gets his information from the New York Times, Axios, and Twitter, using background knowledge to discern truth from propaganda. He acknowledges biases but tries to be objective. He addresses accusations of antisemitism, attributing them to political correctness. He admits to "baiting" early in his career to break through censorship. Fuentes wants America to be more Christian, specifically Catholic, and more white and European. He questions when enough immigration is enough, citing assimilation concerns. He believes the 2016 and 2020 elections were referendums on America's identity. He says individual actions determine right and wrong, criticizing Israel's actions in Gaza. He claims the Israeli government's actions stem from not being Christian. Fuentes denies being a white supremacist but believes race is real. He says Jewish people are influential due to tribalism, not just IQ. He says they are allowed to work as a team in an open system. He questions their loyalty to America, citing loyalty to Israel. He says they had a long-term relationship with the US, but it is dubious how much they benefit the US. He says they are playing a very long game and have influence in many capitals. He says they are a country, we're a country, they have a distinct national interest, they're threatened by us, and we should be threatened by them. Fuentes says third-party journalists are not allowed in Israel, which is a red flag. He says if everything is what someone says it is, then why are certain third-party publications not allowed to go and report? He says it's hard to make the conclusion that something bad isn't happening or something wrong isn't happening with that being true. Fuentes says he got in contact with Ye after the DEFCON 3 tweet. He went to Mar-a-Lago with Ye, who asked Trump to be his VP. He says Trump lost his mind and said Ye could never win. He says Ye is a good man who loves everybody but is getting screwed over. He says he wants to move on, but they won't let him move forward unless he apologizes. Fuentes says he would consider being in politics, but they're gonna throw everything he's ever said in his face. He says he's not a hateful guy, but he makes jokes about black people, Polish people, Mexicans, you name it. He says he doesn't think there's any constituency. Fuentes says he hates working out because it hurts. He says the gym bro culture is so vain. He says people should work out, but some people take it a little too far. Fuentes says after the election, he got really viral, because he said, Your body, my choice. He says everybody posted his home address, his phone number, and so people started just coming to his house. He says a kid came to his house with a gun and a crossbow and killed his dogs. He says he thinks it had to do with that tweet. He says now he has security at his place. Fuentes says he's not a really social person. He reads a lot. He plays video games. He says he's a big gamer. He says he plays, like, map games, like Civilization V and Call of War. He says he's a big fan of Joseph Stalin. He says he wants to understand life. Fuentes says he's definitely a Big Mac guy. He says everything about UFOs comes from the DOD. He says he thinks it's a big SIOP. He says he doesn't think there's any aliens here. Fuentes says there's no aliens. He says if there's aliens, we don't know about them. He says some people say aliens are demons. He says everything that we know about them or learn about them literally comes from the Department of Defense and the Pentagon, all these disclosures. He says he thinks it's a big SIOP. He says he doesn't think there's any aliens here. Fuentes says he's not a Nordic, that's for sure. He says he's a gray. Fuentes says he's not a really social person. He reads a lot. He plays video games. He says he's a big gamer. He says he plays, like, map games, like Civilization V and Call of War. He says he's a big fan of Joseph Stalin. He says he wants to understand life. Fuentes says he's definitely a Big Mac guy. He says everything about UFOs comes from the DOD. He says he thinks it's a big SIOP. He says he doesn't think there's any aliens here. Fuentes says there's no aliens. He says if there's aliens, we don't know about them. He says some people say aliens are demons. He says everything that we know about them or learn about them literally comes from the Department of Defense and the Pentagon, all these disclosures. He says he thinks it's a big SIOP. He says he doesn't think there's any aliens here. Fuentes says he's not a Nordic, that's for sure. He says he's a gray. Fuentes says he had never heard from Nelk before, but he woke up at 2 PM, and his phone's blowing up. He says they said, Oh, Nelk wants you to come on the show. He says that's how he heard about it. He says they said, Yeah, we want your reaction to the to the interview. He says he washed his face, he got on, and he thinks they they were getting a lot of shit for that. He says they were getting a lot of blowback. He says they were looking for the other side to come on and kinda tell them, you know, that what they did was okay, or it wasn't that bad. He says that he was, like, the counterweight, which is kinda funny to think about. He says it's kinda funny that they bring on Netanyahu and they think, we need to hear from the other side. He says, Let's get Nick Fuentes, which is like prime minister of Israel, like livestreamer. He says that that's the two. Fuentes says he agrees with the host, and he said that to them. He says, Like, obviously, you're gonna take it. He says, Because as a content creator, it's like you say, it's gonna be a big interview. He says, But the thing is, when it comes to pushback, it's just doing your due diligence. He says, You're acting almost on behalf of the audience and saying, what would the audience say? He says, What would a skeptical mind say in this circumstance? He says, And he told them, the only way to make it right, or the way to make it fair, is you gotta interview the other side. He says, If your goal is we're gonna hear everybody out, gonna hear out Netanyahu, we're not gonna give a ton of pushback, okay. He says, But unless you interview the other side, then it's propaganda. He says, So you gotta interview the pro Palestine side, whatever. Fuentes says he doesn't wanna say it, but he heard that they got hooked up with somebody who's pro Palestine. He says that's fitting, because it's an Israel Palestine war. He says, But even an America first person, even someone like Tucker for that matter, who is up with a similar stature to Netanyahu in terms of notoriety. He says, Or you. He says, Or me. He says, But he doesn't wanna be a shameless self advocate. He says, They should talk to me. Fuentes says he didn't watch the whole interview. He says it was just clips.

"If Bibi Netanyahu, if he does something I don't like and if I criticize it, am I, like, a bad Christian? Absolutely not." "What I find strange is that we're able to criticize the American government sometimes in the Christian world with more freedom than the Israeli government." "To be pro Israel means you believe in the nation of Israel Mhmm. Not necessarily the government of Israel." "When you when Joe Biden was president, you and I were what we loved America, but we detested our government. And those two those two things beautifully coexisted." "Exactly. And what they don't want is they don't wanna be called bad Christians Mhmm." "If they challenge a foreign government, which is what happens so often. Right. Like you're a bad Christian if you have a question about a foreign government." "Right. That creates backlash that I don't think people understand."

Charlie Kirk is accused of critiquing Israel’s actions in Gaza during this summit, with claims that he is supposed to be a Christian conservative. A number of participants argue that critiques of Israel are being framed as anti-Semitism, while others emphasize that disagreeing with the current Israeli government or questioning AIPAC does not automatically make someone anti-Semitic. One participant says the repeated “anti-Semitism” labeling is being used as an excuse to “spout anti-Semitism.” They argue that people treat Israel as sacred while demanding reduced involvement, referencing uncertainty about “Messiah” and “Reminds me of the CIA.” Another participant responds that an ally should treat an ally differently, and claims they are told that criticizing AIPAC is anti-Semitic. A participant states they have “concerns about AIPAC,” describing it as a prioritization problem: citizens vote and pay attention to American interests, but “a separate group gets higher priority.” Another participant says the entirety of the idea of a PAC is to represent a group, but criticizes allowing a group they claim “doesn’t even represent American interests” to influence representatives. They also claim that only about 20 members across the Senate and House are fully doing the work of the American people. The discussion includes examples of anti-Semitic accusations being dismissed. One participant says they do not hate Jews, and argues that defending a nation should not be treated as hatred. Another participant compares the dynamic to how “racism” is used—if people disagree, they are called names without proof, based on inability to “prove them wrong.” On Israel aid, a participant says the U.S. sends almost $4 billion to Israel “every year,” totaling $319 billion adjusted to inflation since 1948, and says this makes them upset. They argue the money could be better spent supporting an economy at home, including homes, rather than military strikes. They respond to a hypothetical five-year plan for Israel to decouple from USAID by saying Israel could be self-reliant, with balanced budgets and a sovereign wealth fund, and that such a transition would make people think higher of Israel and stop constant discussion. Religious references are raised, including Genesis 12.3 and Romans 9-6, and the conversation notes someone describing being ethnically Jewish and having concerns about AIPAC. A final exchange asks whether canceling Tucker would change anti-Semitism levels; one participant says it would increase because supporters would be treated as anti-Semites by association. The conversation ends with a claim that there is an “earthquake” coming on the issue that others do not believe, and urges hearing it “from people themselves.”

The speaker says a figure has annoyed the Jewish community over the last few months with criticisms of Israel. He cites a Jerusalem Post piece about backlash after Tucker Carlson spoke at SAS, where people were calling him an anti Semite. "I know Charlie and here he's little do they know half the time he's on college campuses, all he's doing is Hasbara and defending Israel. And he doesn't even wanna be. He doesn't even know the issues that well, but he's forced to." "But he dutifully with a smile on his face, defends Israel left and right." We saw him in England, at the debate, passionately defending Israel. And that's not even what he wants to be doing. Now he's getting criticized as an anti Semite. So I wrote that piece in the Jerusalem Post basically saying, listen, everybody. Stop with the purity tests for every single view that he has to line up with, I don't know, B. B. Cabinet decisions. "Relax. Okay? This is our greatest ally. Yes, he has questions. Yes, he's influenced by the other side as well." "Good. I'm talking to him."

"If Bibi Netanyahu, if he does something I don't like and if I criticize it, am I, like, a bad Christian? Absolutely not." "What I find strange is that we're able to criticize the American government sometimes in the Christian world with more freedom than the Israeli government." "To be pro Israel means you believe in the nation of Israel Mhmm. Not necessarily the government of Israel." "When you when Joe Biden was president, you and I were what we loved America, but we detested our government." "You never you never once said, hey, I'm I'm out on America. On America's right." "And what they don't want is they don't wanna be called bad Christians Mhmm." "If they challenge a foreign government, which is what happens so often. Right. Like you're a bad Christian if you have a question about a foreign government."

"And that suits the Israelis just fine." "And if you're wondering why there's an awful lot of lunatic antisemitic comment about Israel online, you have to wonder how much of that is organic." "But how much of it is not organic at all?" "How much of that is being ginned up on purpose to make legitimate questions about the US government's relationship with the government of Israel seem like crackpot stuff, like hate, like David Duke level lunacy?" "Probably some because it serves their interest." "And so the true shame here, the actual villain in the story is the leadership of The United States that is putting up with serial humiliation for decades." "You'd think every country would act that way, and most do." "And for what reason? So if there's someone to be mad at, it's our leaders."

Pat Buchanan says, in response to a question about whether Congress will resist demands for further aid, that “the congress of the United States is Israeli occupied territory.” He explains this means the most powerful lobby in Washington, specifically the pro-Israel lobby, has gotten its way in Congress year after year, and that the automatic votes for $3 to $4 billion in aid to Israel are not necessarily in the national interest of the United States. He argues that his comment ridiculing the subservience of Congress is valid, and he states he believes the government should not subsidize “Israeli socialism,” nor should it subsidize a West Bank policy that denies Palestinian rights, which he says he supports from Lithuania to Croatia. He also asserts that Pat Buchanan is entitled to stand up and speak out against political lobbies, whether it’s the Greek lobby or the pro-Israel lobby, without being labeled vile. Buchanan recalls the backlash: when his remark about the Amen Corner was made, APAC listed five conservative columnists who accepted the “pro Israeli lobby.” He recounts traveling the country to speak, and a young woman from the junior league telling him she received horrible calls from New York about him. He notes that individuals who are pro-Israel go around the country speaking in synagogues and telling people to call CNN to have him taken off the air, and he describes these tactics as un-American and as occurring in the name of the First Amendment, while he says they violate the spirit of the First Amendment. He emphasizes that he has been in Washington for about twenty-five to thirty years, that he is controversial, sometimes insensitive, and tough, but he considers these tactics “beyond the pale.” The exchange includes Buckley’s remark about a column from eighteen months earlier, and Buchanan reiterates his stance on the legitimacy of speaking out against political lobbies and the consequences he faced for his comments.

One speaker believes people should be allowed to have differing views on immigration and debate the merits of the Israeli lobby's power. However, Pat Buchanan discredits this conversation because he gives the sense that he has another agenda related to personal dislike, conspiracies, and the belief that Jews are a sinister force trying to affect American politics. Another speaker questions if a certain individual exclusively targets people in the same group and makes Holocaust jokes. This speaker suggests this individual is like David Duke, who would endorse their shows. They believe David Duke is part of a campaign to discredit people on the right, and that Nick Fuentes is doing the same. They clarify that this doesn't mean everything he says is false, that he isn't talented, or that he's a bad person, but that he is clearly part of a campaign to discredit non-crazy right voices.

Speaker 0: "Israel operates the most powerful lobby in congress" (APAC), and "through control of congress, Israel demands and gets nearly $5,000,000,000 annually." It claims "No elected official dares criticize Israel" for fear "the Jewish lobby will accuse him of antisemitism, the kiss of death for any politician," and that "the president also knows what Israel wants, Israel gets." It states "The mass media founded and controlled primarily by Jews manipulates the spigot of information out of which Heartland America drinks" and that "if you criticize Israel, you are antisemitic." "Keep your head down, or you are fair game for being knocked off by the Zionist shooting gallery." Speaker 1: "our president and elected officials are slaves to political correctness when it comes to Jews and Israel." They "cannot seriously criticize Israel," cannot end aid to Israel, and "cannot even protest Zionist control of congress."

The speakers discuss a controversial figure, possibly Nick Fuentes, noting his talent and articulation while also acknowledging problematic aspects of his views. It's claimed he appeals to young white men who feel economically disenfranchised and unrepresented. One speaker suggests this figure is part of a campaign to discredit legitimate right-wing voices. Concerns are raised about his alleged belief in conspiracies and the idea that Jewish people are a sinister force manipulating American politics. The figure is described as portraying himself as a victim persecuted by a powerful cabal for speaking truth to power, similar to Karen Silkwood. He is accused of making Holocaust jokes and targeting individuals within a specific group. Pat Buchanan's presence is said to discredit certain conversations.

The discussion centers on political criticism and backlash tied to Israel. One participant says Americans can be criticized heavily about their own government—citing being “brutal” on presidents from Barack Obama to Joe Biden and also being critical of Donald Trump “where he deserves it too”—but claims a different standard applies when criticism involves Israel. They describe a “hard no” response from a faction of the conservative movement, where critics are labeled “grifter[s]” and attacked by “bots nonstop online,” alongside an “apparatus” that “immediately turns on you.” They ask who is effectively trying to “veto” or block efforts by figures such as Tom Massie, podcasters, and people raising issues on social media. The other participant argues that the groups involved “entirely support Israel,” and points to Israel-related funding and campaigns, saying they have to set aside “seven hundred and fifty million dollars in a propaganda campaign” and references hiring Brad Parscale. They say Brad Parscale runs Salem Media and “had to register as a foreign agent for a foreign government.” They also claim that during the Trump reelection effort, “millions of dollars had disappeared from the campaign,” and that Parscale was “in charge of it,” implying it is “kind of shocking” and “odd” that he would be responsible for missing money and later overseeing other efforts. They add that it was “so significant” that he “had no choice,” and note that Parscale is “upfront about being a paid—at least… about being” something related to the arrangement being discussed. The conversation then returns to criticizing Israel’s government and foreign policy. One participant says it is “fine to be critical of Israel,” arguing that having “an issue with Israel’s foreign policy” or claiming Israel “getting us into a war” should not automatically make someone an “anti-Semite” or “a bad person.” The transcript ends mid-sentence with “I question the.”

Israel's supporters label critics as anti-Semites, making the term lose meaning. Criticism of Israel and the lobby is not the same as hating Jews. The Israel lobby aims to silence criticism by undermining free speech. Pressure is put on universities and politicians to stop protests. Rich donors linked to Israel influence universities. The lobby pushes the narrative that Israel is a close ally, impacting US politics. Criticizing Israel risks political backlash, as seen with President Biden. The lobby's influence threatens freedom of speech.

Criticism of Israel often leads to accusations of anti-Semitism in the U.S. This tactic is used to deflect dissent, similar to how the Holocaust is invoked when criticism comes from Europe. The American Jewish establishment has significant influence, including power, money, and media, and tends to adopt an unwavering support for Israel. This creates an environment where criticism is not welcomed, and dissenters are quickly labeled anti-Semitic. The historical suffering of the Jewish people is often used to justify actions taken against Palestinians, making it difficult to engage in open dialogue about Israeli policies.

To get into government, one faces headwinds if they oppose the US-Israel relationship, in both appointed and elected positions. The Israel lobby has incredible power over government decisions. Questioning Israeli government policies leads to accusations of antisemitism, which is unique. There are legitimate concerns about antisemitism on college campuses.

Speaker 1 responds to Speaker 0’s question by describing a recurring tactic: when Europeans criticize Israel, the Holocaust is invoked; when people in the United States criticize Israel, they are labeled antisemitic. He calls this a trick that is "we always use it," and notes that the organization behind this dynamic is strong and has a lot of money. He asserts that there are very deep ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment within the United States, and that those ties are strong. He acknowledges that they have power, and he attributes this to their talent as well as their wealth and media influence. He describes them as possessing "power, money, and media, and other things," and characterizes their attitude as: "Israel, my country, right or wrong." He claims they identify with fiction, suggesting they are not ready to hear criticism. According to Speaker 1, it is very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as antisemitic and to bring up the Holocaust and the suffering of the Jewish people. He contends that this dynamic is used to justify everything that is done to the Palestinians. In his view, criticism of Israeli policy by Europeans or Americans is reframed as antisemitism, and the Holocaust is leveraged to shield Israeli actions, thereby silencing dissent and rationalizing actions against Palestinians.

A speaker states that information and money are controlled by a small group of people, and naming them results in being labeled antisemitic. Another speaker questions politicians' allegiance to a foreign nation over their own, suggesting Israel's interests are prioritized over America's. One speaker asks if America is a sovereign nation or controlled by Israel. Another claims "they" are out of control and killing us, identifying the real enemy as "satanic Jews" who control everything. One speaker highlights fear surrounding discussion of Israel, claiming it can lead to internet censorship and loss of advertisers due to "Zionist infiltration." They advocate getting rid of APAC and Israeli control over the country, asserting they don't care about America.

In an interview, Pat Buchanan explains his comment about Congress being "Israeli occupied territory." He clarifies that he meant the pro-Israel lobby is very influential in Washington and Congress often supports policies that may not be in the best interest of the United States. Buchanan believes that criticizing any political lobby should be allowed without being attacked. He shares that after making his comment, there were efforts to silence him, including calls to drop his column and remove him from the air. Buchanan finds these tactics un-American and believes they violate the spirit of the First Amendment. He acknowledges his controversial nature but considers such actions unacceptable.

Congress is heavily influenced by the pro-Israel lobby, leading to unquestioned support for aid to Israel. Pat Buchanan criticizes this, arguing against subsidizing Israeli policies and advocating for Palestinian rights. He faced backlash for his comments, with efforts to silence him by lobbying groups. Buchanan condemns these tactics as un-American and a violation of free speech. Despite his controversial nature, he believes such actions go too far.

Speakers discuss Netanyahu’s influence: "He's using The United States, its economy, and its military power for his own ends." They note it's common but "remarkable how effective he's been at that and how contemptuous he is." "80% of Americans support us." They warn U.S. support is "tens of billions a year." "Phoebe Netanyahu is a foreigner." Concerns about Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz surface: "Ted Cruz says right into the camera, I was elected. My main goal was to help Israel." They argue antisemitism is "a dodge" and that "anti Semitism very often is a way to pass the buck. It's their fault." They contend Netanyahu is a threat—"I think that clearly they're gonna try and blow up Al Aqsa Mosque" to "build the third temple"—and ask, "Where's our self respect?" "I am way, way more angry at my leaders than I am at Netanyahu."

He's using The United States, its economy, and its military power for his own ends. What's remarkable to me is how effective he's been at that and how contemptuous he is. "80% of Americans this is an old one. 80% of Americans support us." "BB is completely evil and completely destructive." "He's hurting The United States and he's destroying his own country and I think he imperils the world." "They're gonna try and blow up Al Aqsa Mosque" "to build the third temple, and then you've got global war." "No, I am way, way more angry at my leaders than I am at Netanyahu. Much it's not even close." "Ted Cruz says right into the camera, I was elected. My main goal was to help Israel." "Where's our self respect?" "anti Semitism very often is a way to pass the buck." "It's their fault." "Why are we allowing this?"