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There are around 40 race-based laws in South Africa that are anti-white. Our president recently signed into law expropriation without compensation. This is the last straw after endless anti-white laws. I'm thankful that America and Donald Trump are taking notice because we are on the edge of a socialist abyss. I don't think we can fix this internally, we have to wait until the 2029 election, and I don't think our economy will survive until then. We need an external force to change things. Donald Trump and America taking notice and intervening may be what we need. South Africa has been infected with the woke mind virus way more than America has. We've got it times two, and there's no movement in South Africa to reverse it. It's actually going in the opposite direction.

The conversation centers on a shared focus on “deep state traders” and a distrust of the current political establishment. Speaker 0 insists that they are “focused on higher IQ conversations here” and that they want to “go after the deep state traders,” asking who is paying them and noting that the “Washington field office is one block away” from their location, implying proximity to the FBI in Washington, D.C. The exchange riffs on anti-establishment themes, with Speaker 1 adding that they have “gone dragged into forever wars on behalf of Israel,” questioning why the U.S. has been involved for “generations and decades” and asserting that Americans “will not allow” it, calling for white Christians to unite around “America First, America Only” and that there can be “competing interests.” The dialogue shifts to support for domestic groups and figures perceived as aligned with their cause. Speaker 0 says their priority is to gain reinforcements and to “pardon all the oath keepers.” Speaker 1 references the idea of aiding “the J sixers,” while Speaker 0 states they are focused on “the destruction of the world” and asks why they aren’t advocating for those groups. The conversation then explicitly identifies a racialized fear about the future, with Speaker 1 stating that “your children are gonna be black and Muslim,” and “your children’s children are gonna be black and Muslim,” attributing this not to genetic or demographic inevitability but to “the weak, feckless men that are allowing APAC to buy out our politicians and open up our borders.” Speaker 0 counters by describing “weak, tackless toxic, feckless men” in the country and reiterates that their priority is to “go after the traitors based on their actions and actions alone,” stressing that they have a “laundry list” of targets and that they do not care about appearances or which hair follicles or eye colors these people have. The two converge on the idea of targeting treasonous individuals, with Speaker 0 insisting that the focus is on those who have committed treason and that those who fund them come from all stripes. The overall thrust is an uncompromising approach to identifying and pursuing perceived traitors, tying together anti-war, nationalist, and white-identity rhetoric, while calling for pardons for controversial domestic groups and framing the fight as one against treason and influence from abroad.

There are Americans influenced by propaganda, similar to the support for Trump in 2016. It’s important to consider whether these individuals should face civil or criminal charges as a potential deterrent.

Speaker 0 describes the situation as not a lone incident but an intentional design to start an internal component of what he calls a color revolution, one among many to expect. Speaker 1 asks for clarification on what is meant by a color revolution, who is driving it against the United States, and who is in charge. Speaker 0 replies that a hard look back to 2016 under Obama is necessary and believes Obama is still in the mix, with John Brennan as the operational commander on the battlefield in the United States. He says there are indicators from Brennan’s statements and actions, and that Obama is part of the command structure. He mentions an international component he calls the axis of resistance, consisting of communists emanating from the CCP’s control and communists inside the United States, arguing that there are communists in Congress who voted in 1992 not to vote against socialism. He adds Islamists, narco cartels, and terrorist groups such as Hamas, Hezbollah, FARC, and the Cartel del Sol as part of this axis, with people at the “pincer” of it organizing and controlling the activities. He asserts the color revolutions in Ukraine as an example and claims the war there is a “total loser war” that must end. He says Trump must tell his team to ensure executive orders are implemented at all levels and emphasizes the phrase, “lawyers advise, leaders decide,” urging President Trump to gather all relevant agencies (CIA, DNI, Sec War, Sec State, Sec Commerce, and especially the Secretary of Homeland Security) and make a decision. He states that the color revolution is a long-term effort that accelerated after Trump’s 2016 victory, with ongoing actions described as economic warfare, cyber warfare, and political interference. He cites the New Virginia Majority, a communist movement inside the United States aiming to place communists in local government and school boards, and mentions contrived cultural shifts including Islamification in various parts of the country, including Florida, Dearborn, and Houston. He asserts Islam is not compatible with Christianity and Sharia law is not compatible with constitutional law. Speaker 1 agrees there were people who served their country; she supports removing those who served but opposes letting any of them into the United States, emphasizing a different culture. Speaker 2 agrees. Speaker 1 notes the large Muslim population spread across many regions, suggesting others could have taken Afghan refugees, but questions the appropriateness of bringing them in. Speaker 2 states it is not surprising that a CIA-trained individual who previously appeared untroubled could appear in Washington, D.C. to shoot at troops, and explains a broader pattern: old-school descendants became part of a strike force, loyal at one time but funded and equipped by the U.S., who were later abandoned during the Obama–Biden period. He describes withdrawal from bases and overnight equipment removal, followed by a lack of transition to self-sufficiency, leading to brought-in desperate fighters who may be paid to kill National Guard members. He asserts these events demonstrate a deep state pattern involving Biden, Obama, and Brennan.

South Africa is facing a crisis with 40 race-based laws targeting white people. Recently, President Cyril Ramaphosa signed "expropriation without compensation" into law, which feels like the final straw. We've been dealing with anti-white laws for a long time. I'm grateful that America and Donald Trump are paying attention because we're on the brink of a socialist collapse. I don't believe we can fix this internally and the economy may not survive until the next election in 2029. We need external intervention and hopefully America's involvement will provide the necessary change. South Africa is far more infected with the woke mind virus than America, and there's no effort to reverse it here.

Speaker 1 states that to be convinced there is no white genocide in South Africa, President Trump would need to listen to South African voices, including those of his friends. Speaker 1 believes that if there was an Afrikaner farmer genocide, his minister of agriculture would not be present. Speaker 0 claims there are thousands of stories, documentaries, and news stories about the genocide. Speaker 0 offers to show articles as evidence. Speaker 1 states that with or without parliament, people are going to occupy land.

The speaker thanks supporters for sharing her and her husband's story of suffering, alleging persecution by President Ramaphosa's government, the NPI, SAPS, prosecutors, and judges for four years. She accuses these entities of disregarding their rights as victims and credits AFRI Forum for their support. She claims her husband was falsely charged and that they were attacked by individuals involved in tender fraud, who she says the government protects. Informants from the community have told her about dangerous men, allegedly Tutsis, who exploit impoverished girls. She recounts a story of a politically connected woman who was abducted and murdered, highlighting the country's danger for women and children. She vows to fight back against those who threaten her family, comparing herself to a lioness protecting her cubs. She expresses support for President Trump and criticizes Backerbuddy for removing their fundraising page, suspecting political pressure due to their Afrikaner identity and accusations against the South African government.

South Africans are concerned about issues like potholes, job shortages, and daily power outages. Crime is rampant, and farm murders involve extreme violence, including the gang rape of elderly women. Some believe external forces stir up racial tensions, contributing to the destruction of the country. White farmers face brutal attacks, including rape, torture with boiling water or hot irons, and being dragged behind vehicles. Children are murdered in front of their parents, sometimes without any theft occurring. Political figures incite violence with slogans like "kill the farmer, shoot the farmer," and one leader, Julius Malema, has said "slit their throats," while gesturing the action. He stated he is not currently calling for the slaughter of white people, but cannot rule it out in the future.

The discussion centers on whether Afrikaners in South Africa are facing genocide and whether the U.S. is prioritizing them for asylum. The DHS representative states that 8,666 individuals have been granted asylum in the U.S. since January 20, including 59 Afrikaners who faced racial violence and land seizure by their government. She accuses the interviewer of defending race-based discrimination and violence and whitewashing the persecution of Afrikaners. The interviewer disputes the claim of genocide, stating that it is not recognized by the U.S. or the UN and that violence affects all races in South Africa. He questions whether Congolese and Sudanese refugees facing actual genocide will receive the same expedited path to asylum as Afrikaners. He claims the president has specifically let in Afrikaners. The DHS representative insists asylum is granted regardless of color or creed to those facing persecution and undergoing proper vetting.

The speaker discusses the attempt to shift focus from radical Islam and communist China to labeling American people and patriots as the biggest threat. The CIA claims a civil war has begun and leaders need to be arrested. Another speaker emphasizes white supremacy as the most dangerous terrorist threat in the US. They predict more staged events like January 6th and the fake kidnapping plot in Michigan. They suggest the current administration may be involved in orchestrating such events.

The speaker presents articles and videos depicting violence against white South Africans, claiming white South Africans are fleeing due to violence and racist laws. They cite attacks on white South African couples and the burning of white farmers. The speaker references President Trump's reaction to the situation, mentioning Trump asked about a jet that was given. The speaker claims officials are saying, "kill the white farmer and take their land." They state that friends who left South Africa warned that people there want to take land and kill.

I think most Americans stopped paying attention to South Africa after the end of apartheid in 1994, but the situation there has deteriorated. The democratic system set up in the 90s is being used to promote socialist ends. Black Economic Empowerment, for example, has nothing to do with economic empowerment. The ANC, South Africa's ruling party, has strong communist ties and is implementing policies that are actively discriminating against taxpayers. The government isn't protecting lives or property and is pushing to expropriate private property without compensation. This is coupled with a radical ideology being taught at universities that dehumanizes white people and could be a predicate for genocide. It's a collapsing society and the West cheers it on, but it's time to wake up to what's happening there.

The speakers are debating the former president's statements about an "enemy within." One speaker claims the former president suggested turning the American military on the American people. A clip is played of the former president responding to accusations of threatening people, stating he is not threatening anyone, but that "they" are the ones doing the threatening through "phony investigations" and "weaponization of government." The other speaker objects, asserting the clip does not reflect the former president's repeated statements about the American people being the "enemy within." This speaker claims the former president has talked about turning the American military on the American people, going after peaceful protestors, and locking up those who disagree with him, which they argue is unacceptable in a democracy.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if they believe white people should pay reparations, claiming Speaker 1 tweeted in January 2020, "Yes, the North. Yes. All of us. Yes. America. Yes. Our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes. Reparations. Yes. On this day." Speaker 1 denies the tweet referred to fiscal reparations. Speaker 1 states the tweet referenced owing much to those who came before. Speaker 0 calls this a bizarre framing of the tweet.

A speaker claims that in Britain, over a quarter of a million people have been issued non-crime hate incidents, and people are imprisoned for reposting memes and social media posts. They ask if the Trump administration would consider political asylum for British citizens in this situation. Speaker 1 responds that they have not heard this proposal or discussed it with the president, but they will speak to the national security team to see if the administration would entertain it.

Initially, USAID was created with good intentions. However, the agency has broken the trust with the American people and hasn't been transparent about where our taxpayer dollars are going. In 2021, the special operations command put out an instruction manual with instructions and examples on how the military could work with the state department, intel services, and USAID using race riots in order to destabilize nations. They also advocated for setting up job fairs near some of these riots so that disaffected workers could gain employment. These operations are taking place without government oversight, without the authority of the president, without the authority of congress. USAID needs to condemn this and provide oversight to congress on exactly where our tax dollars are going. Do you agree that this is wrong?

Speaker 0 asserts that Joshua Zimmerman is “the Jew” who is a traitor and an enabler to murder, claiming that Jews engineered the destruction of South Africa and the rise of the African National Congress led by the convicted terrorist Nelson Mandela, whom Speaker 0 says “was in jail for acts of terrorism.” They state Mandela “was not an angel or humanitarian.” The speaker then condemns Julius Malema, alleging he is inciting crimes, and warns of “Genocidal Jews” across Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran. Speaker 1 introduces Joshua Zimmerman as the person present in Ward 72 at Glen Hazel, saying they are there with fellow fighters to “conscientize the minds of those in the suburbs that the EFF is an all inclusive party regardless of race, class, or status,” and that “Slowly but surely, we are going to start winning more in the suburbs.” Speaker 2 leads chants: “Long live the commander in chief. Long live. Long live. Long live the commander in chief, Julius Malema. Long live. Long live. Viva EFF. Viva. Viva. Aman Clark. Away to.” Speaker 3 describes a crowd of “just under 100,000” chanting “kill the boar.” They identify the Boers as the remnant white South Africans who built South Africa, and say Julius Malema is leading the genocidal chant as head of the South African Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF). They claim the Boer community was betrayed by liberal whites decades ago. They describe South Africa as once prosperous, now suffering under majority black rule, with unreliable electricity and a collapsed agricultural sector, labeling it an economic basket case of savagery typical of failed African states. They claim white people face daily violence and live in a state of siege, particularly those who did not leave after Mandela and the ANC took power. Speaker 3 provides context on the EFF as a South African far-left pan-Africanist and Marxist party founded by Julius Malema and allies in 2013, noting Malema serves as president and that the party is the third largest in both houses of Parliament and growing. They state the party “hasn’t yet started the mass killings of whites, but it will if Malema is to be believed.” They reference an October 2022 speech in which Malema told branch members they should “never be scared to kill.” They cite a 2018 rally where Malema urged supporters to “go after the white man” and proclaimed, “we are cutting the throat of whiteness.” They mention a 2016 rally where Malema said, “we are not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now.” Speaker 3 notes that after Robert Mugabe’s death, Malema tweeted quotes hostile toward white people, including “the only white man you can trust is a dead white man,” and asserts that Malema has given warnings of white genocide. They claim that white people who acquiesce to replacement, mass immigration, or intercultural guilt narratives will face death, insisting: “Death follows. Be warned if your current white majority nation has adopted multiculturalism, diversity, and inclusion policies. It won’t end well.” The speakers claim the media hides the truth, leaving whites “supine and docile as they’re killed,” and reiterate Melena’s call: “Kill the whites.” They conclude with a call for whites to be racialists, meaning to defend their own kind.

Right-wing media and those seeking to undermine use false narratives to sow division. These narratives target those who stand up for human rights in Palestine and Kashmir, and are also used in relation to grooming gangs. To prevent division, false narratives must be addressed immediately by parliamentarians. It is crucial to ensure these narratives do not gain traction, as they can spread throughout communities and cause further division.

An individual asked about the 18 Secret Service agents protecting Hunter Biden in South Africa, questioning who is paying for it and if protection would be revoked. The speaker responded that they were just hearing about it and would look into it. The speaker noted that South Africa is on a watch list due to alleged brutality and that they have stopped sending billions of dollars to the country. The speaker stated that Hunter Biden being in South Africa is "very interesting" and that they will take a look at it.

The speaker warns Congress members who have taken APEC money to stop now or “you will be on the menu.” They claim these people have “sold our country out” and call them “treasonous traitors” who will be “hanging from the gallows” for treason. The speaker asserts that foreign assets and agents who “do not care about white children” will take over the country.

The speaker says that to be convinced there is no white genocide in South Africa, President Trump would need to listen to the stories and perspectives of South Africans, including his friends. Another speaker claims there are thousands of stories, documentaries, and news stories about it. They show a video of what they claim are burial sites of over a thousand white farmers, with cars lined up to pay respects. They say each white cross represents a white farmer or their family member who was killed. The first speaker expresses unfamiliarity with the scene and asks where it is located. The other speaker says it is in South Africa. The first speaker says they need to find out where it is.

The speaker claims the media is corrupt and refuses to report on a situation in South Africa that is the "opposite of apartheid." According to the speaker, the media constantly reported on apartheid, but now "nobody knows" about the current situation. The speaker states that the U.S. is being "inundated with people, with white farmers from South Africa," creating "a big problem." Marco Rubio reportedly told the speaker that he has "never seen anything like" the number of people wanting to leave South Africa because they "feel they're gonna be dead very soon."

A person asked a congresswoman if she would apologize for racist rhetoric inferring that white men should be put on a terror watch list solely based on their skin color. The person asked if she truly thinks white men are the greatest terror threat facing America.

The US often fabricates human rights violations to justify intervention, and South Africa is now a target. Right-wing groups are seeking foreign funding to establish independent states, which is part of a plan for economic isolation and military intervention. Agawa will be terminated, escalating tensions. We must dismiss groups exploiting US imperialism to fund racist fantasies; land will be expropriated without compensation. The US is not demonstrating strength but advanced capitalism, or imperialism. Its hostility towards South Africa stems from its imperialist agenda, not disinformation from a minor racist group. The US, with its sophisticated intelligence agencies, cannot claim to be misinformed. It is embracing imperialism through threats and aid termination. Our government is foolishly trying to explain policies to a maniacal president, as if the US is misinformed, but they know exactly what they're doing.

There are Americans involved in propaganda efforts, similar to those that supported Trump in 2016. It’s worth considering whether these individuals should face civil or criminal charges as a means of deterrence.