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A government memo confirms retaliation against individuals who reported illegal actions at Homeland Security. Despite their claims, no officials have faced discipline; instead, some have been promoted. Those who spoke out have suffered severe consequences: one had their law enforcement credentials and retirement revoked, while another was assigned menial tasks, hindering their career prospects. A third individual was demoted three levels and lost their firearm and credentials, marking a significant blow to their career. They collectively noted that in their combined 75 years of service, they had never faced disciplinary action until now. One supervisor even stated that the agency's goal was to drive them to despair or worse.

The discussion centers on accusations about government actions and the handling of whistleblowers. Speaker 0 argues that the FBI is examining the situation “to chill speech” and to silence Democratic members of Congress and other elected leaders who speak out against Trump. According to Speaker 0, the motive is to stop them from speaking out. Speaker 1 pushes back by asking for clarification, wondering what exactly should be stopped. The question arises: “Stop what?” and “you’re saying that you believe that inherent in the video is that Donald Trump has given illegal orders.” Speaker 0 responds that he will speak about Congress’s role in whistleblower protections, noting that there have been whistleblowers in the Biden administration as well as in past administrations. He emphasizes that Congress has a responsibility to ensure that whistleblowers inside the federal government and the military have protections, wherever they are located in government. Speaker 1 suggests that the message might be read as Democrats encouraging the military to defy the commander in chief over current orders that cannot be named, but Speaker 0 contests this reading, implying a misinterpretation of the message. In trying to clarify, Speaker 0 states: “Here's what I believe. I believe that regardless of the president, no one in our military should actually follow through with unconstitutional orders.” He asserts this as his belief, though he concedes uncertainty about other specifics: “I’m saying regardless. I don’t know. Regardless of justice. I’m not. I’m not understanding.” Throughout, the exchange centers on the tension between protecting whistleblowers and the implications of political messaging about the president and military obedience. Speaker 0 maintains that Congress must safeguard whistleblower protections across federal government and military contexts, citing the Biden administration as an example and noting similar protections have occurred in other administrations. Speaker 1 probes the interpretation of the video and the intent behind messages that might appear to call for disobeying orders or challenging the president, while Speaker 0 reiterates a belief in the obligation to refuse unconstitutional orders, independent of which president is in office.

As a former 18-year veteran of the Department of Justice, I now lead a group called Justice Connection, aiding current DOJ employees facing demotions, firings, and threats from various sources, including January 6th rioters and those believing in the "deep state" narrative. These individuals are terrified for their careers and personal safety due to increased doxxing and harassment. The current environment within the FBI and DOJ is destabilized, impacting morale and daily functions, making it harder to focus on critical tasks like counterterrorism. While the administration defends personnel moves as aligning with its priorities, the safety and security of dedicated DOJ employees is at risk, especially with doxxing and harassment being criminal offenses.

Speaker 0 raises the issue of leadership in Minnesota, noting that dozens of people have been charged and convicted for stealing millions of taxpayer dollars from government programs. The question is whether Governor Walls did enough to stop the fraud in the state, and whether Speaker 0 supports Walls’ decision not to run for reelection. Speaker 1 responds by crediting Governor Walls with achievements: Walls is the reason Minnesota has paid family leave and free school lunches. He notes that they have been through thick and thin together. Regarding fraud, Speaker 1 concedes that obviously everybody could have done more to prevent fraud, and he says that is a fair point to make. He points to current efforts, stating that Walls is setting up a whole bunch of infrastructure to do that. He affirms that the fraud is real and that it must be acknowledged. In terms of accountability, Speaker 1 emphasizes that when somebody commits fraud, there should be investigation, charges, prosecution, and, if appropriate, jail for the individual. He stresses that you do not hold an entire community accountable for the actions of individuals.

Odessa Orlewitz hosts Liberty Talk Canada and introduces Doctor Dimitri, a senior data scientist with the Government of Canada (employee of CBSA). Dimitri says he is coming forward publicly with his full story as his case becomes public in two weeks. He states he did not disclose his medical status or discuss private correspondences, but he began sharing data-driven insights from within the system, building a portfolio of resources over the last five years. He says he has included his discipline letter and investigation report, which detail violations and allegations he defended against for talking about data he analyzed. Dimitri describes a key, simple piece of evidence: deaths following COVID by vaccination status, published by the Public Health Agency of Canada. He argues that vaccine efficacy appears not to show significant improvement and that a technique he calls “algorithmic bias” or data skewing is used to hide the inconvenient truth. He says the data show that what researchers want to know—deaths among unvaccinated versus vaccinated—cannot be accurately inferred when data before vaccination campaigns are counted in, thus diluting comparisons. He frames this as a political interference issue, not a new phenomenon, comparing it to past concerns raised by Shiv Chopra and continuing into 2021. Dimitri emphasizes fear of reprisal in the public service. He notes that, in public-service surveys, fear of reprisal is highest in the Health Products regulation unit, which he says he uncovered, and claims colleagues would testify but fear losing their jobs. He explains that his own union activities and leadership seminars since 2019 involved teaching data visualization tools (including PSESS) to observe datasets and detect issues. He recounts that after pushing data on vaccination and COVID, he faced multiple disciplinary actions: five days of suspension without pay for discussing information conflicting with government messaging; an eight-day suspension; and a ten-day suspension, all connected to the hearing and his broader aim of alerting on red flags. Dimitri states that the hearing concerns limits to the duty of loyalty and insubordination in a democratic country like Canada. He argues that data people should be allowed to publish information that could challenge official messaging. He also notes that, outside Canada, Alberta passed a Regulated Professions Act and a Neutrality Act to protect free speech across regulated professions, suggesting a national parallel is needed for public servants. He says he will post updates in a newsletter and provide links to evidence and to testimonials from colleagues, professors from Ottawa U, and other data scientists who assisted with analyses, including Pfizer papers. Dimitri recounts personal context: he took his own vaccine dose and has presented his case publicly, including short videos from a journalist documentary and his Freedom Convoy presentation. He asserts that mainstream media, such as CBC, did not interview him during the convoy era, implying a cover-up by mainstream outlets. Odessa urges viewers to attend Dimitri’s hearing, visit his website, and share the information widely. She closes with promotional plugs and advises the audience to follow the case through ivim.ca and related links. Throughout, Dimitri stresses the overarching themes of political interference in data, fear of reprisal within the public service, and the need for transparency and accountability in health data and governance. He frames the hearing as a pivotal moment for trust in Canadian public institutions and urges support for whistleblowers like himself.

Over the past decade, I have been targeted for reporting on Benghazi by organizations like Media Matters for America. These groups, funded by taxpayers, aim to censor and intimidate those who speak out. This is a threat to journalists, scientists, and doctors. It's time for us, as the government, to stop funding our own suppression. Thank you.

Speaker 1 asserts that there is a two-tier justice system weaponized to persecute people based on political beliefs, and that Director Wray has personally helped weaponize the FBI against conservatives. He references the Twitter files, Missouri v. Biden disclosures, the Durham investigation and report, and the exposure and collapse of the Russian collusion hoax. He asks Director Wray what he is prepared to do to reform federal law enforcement to earn back the trust of the American people, noting that he asked Mister Durham about this, and Durham said he did not think things can go too much further given that law enforcement, particularly the FBI or Department of Justice, runs a two-tiered system of justice. Speaker 0 responds by disagreeing with the other speaker’s characterization, saying the description of his bias against conservatives seems insane given his personal background. He explains that the approach to protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution starts with emphasizing to his staff to do the right thing in the right way, which means following the facts wherever they lead, no matter who likes it. He outlines several actions: enhanced procedures, safeguards, approvals, double checks and triple checks, record-keeping requirements, accountability policies, and funding for new functions like an Office of Internal Audit that didn’t exist before. He notes the installation of an entirely new leadership team from his predecessor and asserts that where he can take action, he will to hold people accountable by removing them from the chain of command. The exchange ends with an invitation to speak further, though the remark is truncated: “Gentlemen, ladies, time to speak to the….”

A friend or colleague approaches Speaker 1 with information about a cover-up that should be exposed. Speaker 1 advises them to pray about it and offers to connect them with Congress, but strongly advises against taking action. Speaker 0 questions how this protects against corruption and misconduct, to which Speaker 1 admits it doesn't solve the problem. Speaker 1 warns that the FBI and the government will crush anyone who tries to expose their wrongdoing, using themselves as examples. Speaker 0 concludes the hearing, acknowledging the gravity of the situation.

The speakers confirm retaliation for speaking out against Homeland Security officials. No one at Homeland Security has been disciplined, demoted, or fired for not complying with the DNA law. The speakers faced consequences like losing credentials and firearms. They were marginalized and their careers destroyed. One supervisor mentioned the agency's goal was to bankrupt, force resignation, or worse.

People are really scared because overnight, many lost their next paycheck and ability to pay for childcare and medical bills. Christina Drey and Adam Dubard were fired this month amidst the chaotic shutdown of foreign aid distributed by USAID. Over 8,000 USAID employees were sent home, not based on competency but on loyalty tests. These are people with decades of public service across administrations, and they had to leave the building immediately. As far as I know, they received an email, and if they didn't leave, they were escorted out. There was no process or explanation given to them.

They're so mad. The salons are so mad. For years, you're at the dinner table talking with your family about how everything's good. Oh, we don't need to worry because the government and whatnot. I mean, 81% of these people are on welfare, but on top of that, they're collecting millions of dollars for these companies. Tax exempt, by the way, especially the daycares. So can you imagine how mad they are now? Like, that's why they're right now, there's like, people are so upset, like, there's, like, bounties on me here in Minnesota because people are so upset as far as the fraud that's being exposed because they know their time's up and they know everyone's just sick and tired of this happening inside their own state and across America. What what what have some of those threats been? Yeah. There was apparently like a BOLO that they they used. That's the word that some people told me it was on me, and I can't reveal too much because just because I don't want to reveal. But, like, yeah, very lots of messages, death threats, obviously, on social media, and then, it's just not the most safe thing for me to be moving around freely right now. I think that's fair. I mean,

A friend or colleague approaches Speaker 1, seeking advice on exposing a cover-up to the American people. Speaker 1 suggests praying about it and offers to connect them with Congress, but strongly advises against taking action. When asked about the importance of shedding light on corruption and misconduct, Speaker 1 admits that it won't solve the problem. They warn that the FBI and the government will crush anyone who tries to expose their wrongdoing, using themselves as an example. The conversation ends on a somber note, with Speaker 0 expressing their sobering thoughts and yielding back.

Speaker 1 explains that they were not fired by Mark Zuckerberg, but faced continuous attacks from the media and tech industry. They were put on leave for six months after making a $9,000 political donation supporting Trump. The speaker believes that if Trump had lost, the attacks would have been dismissed, but his victory made it unbearable. They acknowledge a direct connection between the donation and being pushed out of the company. Other Facebook employees fear speaking out or supporting any politician due to what happened to the speaker. The speaker advises right-leaning founders to keep their political leanings private to avoid being terminated by the mob, focusing instead on building and creating value.

The speaker asserts that fraud has been legalized and concealed through unethical behavior enabled by unethical legislation, effectively allowing the fraud to go unseen, untracked, and without accountability. The speaker highlights Nexus Family Healing, a nonprofit located in Plymouth, Minnesota, as an example. According to the speaker, Nexus Family Healing is a national nonprofit with an executive director earning well over $500,000 annually, who is awarded a $1,000,000 grant contract through Hennepin County. The speaker then alleges that this $1,000,000 grant morphs into a three-year $7,000,000 ongoing contract, and claims that nobody knows how or why this transformation occurs. The speaker notes that when Hennepin County workers approached Julie Blaha in the state auditor’s office with concerns, they were met with “complete radio silence.” The speaker contends that Julie Blaha refuses to take action. The claim is made that the state auditor’s office is currently opaque, with no visible duties, no responsibility, and no accountability arising from that office. The speaker adds that the office receives $8,000,000 in biannual funding, yet allegedly does nothing beyond purported TikTok dances. The overarching claim is that there needs to be someone in the state auditor’s office who actually takes responsibility for how taxpayer dollars are managed and accounted for. The speaker uses these points to argue that the current system enables undisclosed or unaddressed fraud through a combination of perceived legislative loopholes and a lack of oversight or action from the state auditor’s office. The narrative centers on alleged improper contracting and funding flows involving Nexus Family Healing, and the perceived non-responsiveness of Julie Blaha and the state auditor’s office in the face of county concerns about these matters.

The FBI is being accused of corruption and targeting politicians, parents, and ordinary citizens. Whistleblowers have bravely come forward, facing retaliation and being blocked from working both inside and outside the FBI. This is a troubling time for the American people.

Speaker 0: We have a problem with the CIA and FBI in Washington. Speaker 1: What's your plan to start over and fix them? Speaker 0: They've gotten out of control, with weaponization and other issues. The people need to bring about change. We were making progress, but more needs to be done.

In January 2022, a colleague alerted Speaker 0 that there had been a doubling or tripling of baby deaths in the last year, which sparked curiosity. Speaker 1 states that “Their own government told us a medical treatment was safe, and it killed babies.” Speaker 2 says she has “lost all faith that Health Canada is looking out genuinely for the best interests of Canadians.” Speaker 3 alleges that doctors “made extra money to push vaccines” and were given a billing code to do it, and that she has “pulled all the billing codes.” Speaker 4 asserts that “They've purchased the vaccine that hasn't been approved,” distributed it to the provinces so that once it’s approved, they can “start jabbing ourselves with it” and “start jabbing pregnant mothers with it.” Speaker 3 questions the necessity of vaccinations: “Why did we have to get these vaccinations? Like, why was this something that we had to do? You go to the hospital, you expect to have a baby, and you expect to go home, and then you don't.” Speaker 0 speculates on criminal negligence, saying, “I would suspect that there was criminal negligence on part of the government and the public health officials.” Speaker 3 notes that it is “highly recommended that pregnant women get their vaccine as soon as possible.” Speaker 0 contends that a narrative was pushed to everybody, including pregnant and breastfeeding women, that the mRNA shots were safe and effective. Speaker 2 claims wiretapping, harassment, charging, and barring expert witnesses: “They had wiretapped her phone. They had harassed her. They had charged her. They didn't allow any expert witnesses to testify.” Speaker 1 accuses police of trying to cover up Canadian babies’ deaths “to the point of stopping detective Helen Greaves from testifying about it.” Speaker 4 observes that “The dominant individuals keep the subordinates in their place by constant aggression.” Speaker 5 discusses vaccination choice versus public risk, remarking, “If you don't wanna get vaccinated, that's your choice. But don't think you can get on a plane or a train besides vaccinated people and put them at risk,” and claims CBC initially “started off with CBC running a story to implicate her and to paint her with a brush that looks uncomplimentary to the public.” Speaker 6 claims Canada must shift its understanding of what the is, describing it as “a state broadcaster pushing the agenda of the Liberal government of Canada.” Speaker 4 calls this “the most significant matter affecting our children today from a health perspective,” noting that authorities are “not investigating.” Speaker 2 concludes that everything emanates outward from this case involving law enforcement, the judicial system, the pharmaceutical industry, and health agencies, “how they work together, how they censored information. It all ties together to this one case, and that's what makes it so dangerous.”

Congressman: The Department of Justice has unfairly treated whistleblowers like Mr. Allen. Mr. Allen: The treatment is unfair, and the process felt like the punishment. Mr. Horowitz: Putting someone like Mr. Allen on unpaid leave for over two years is unfair. Congressman: The process was to punish whistleblowers and make an example of them for reporting improper actions at the FBI and DOJ. Congress has not appropriately protected whistleblowers, and continuing resolutions put no consequence on the DOJ or FBI for their actions. Congress should ensure whistleblowers receive back pay; otherwise, maybe the FBI director and attorney general shouldn't get their paychecks or perks. Voting for these continuing resolutions perpetuates the punishment of whistleblowers, and Congress underwrites the weaponization of the Justice Department.

The investigation into fraud in public daycare subsidies is described as massive and deeply obstructed. "Massive. They don't want a fraud unit to do anything. They want a fraud unit on paper." The discussion centers on Halicki, who was fired in 2013 while in the midst of a large probe. The county’s account of Halicki is that he was an insubordinate bully whose tactics hampered efforts to catch welfare cheats, while supporters call the firing part of a broader effort to suppress accountability. One side frames the situation as a cover up: “They don't wanna point fingers at various organizations and people. This is nothing but a giant cover up.” The reporting highlights deco daycare centers, with evidence that the company collected millions in public subsidies for providing bogus child care services to low income families. The overarching assertion is that, in essence, this scheme was a criminal enterprise. In December, Ramsey County charged the owner of Dico with fraud. The daycares shown are described as billing the county at rates over $100,000 a month. Halicki says that before his dismissal he was tracking a similar scheme in Hennepin County involving multiple child care centers. One building is noted as housing its third daycare center in as many years, with a new license granted despite concerns. The two previous centers had their public subsidies stopped by the county because of billing irregularities. Halicki recounts footage of centers with questionable visibility: “7AM to 6PM. There are no lights on.” He and the team visited centers that had no signs outside and, during posted business hours, no one answered. They checked state inspection records for each center on Halecki's tour, finding licensing violations—the kind that are red flags to the state's Department of Human Services. The core accusation is that this is a deliberate attempt by officials in Hennepin County to deceive taxpayers. Halicki claims to possess emails and documents proving knowledge of the wrongdoing and deliberate inaction. He cites an email to the supervisor of the fraud unit where the stated goal was to stop the bleeding quickly and protect taxpayer money from going out the door; the supervisor replies with a plan to tackle the centers, and Halicki reiterates, “It's nothing but a giant cover up.” Officials emphasize that the focus is on prevention, but they do investigate and take action with the county attorney when fraud occurs. In the two years since Halicki was fired, not one case has been prosecuted by the county. The report notes that most metro counties aren’t actively investigating daycare center fraud; instead, they’re handing those cases off to a DHS special team that was ramped up more than a year ago. Public frustration is voiced: “Nobody is more frustrated with the amount of time it's taking than we are.”

This internal government memo confirms I was retaliated against for speaking out against Homeland Security officials who I believed were breaking the law. No one at Homeland Security has been disciplined, demoted, or fired for failing to comply with the DNA law. To the contrary, some have been promoted. I've had my law enforcement credentials and firearm taken away, and my law enforcement retirement revoked. Publicly removing someone's firearm is the ultimate insult. I was iced, left to do menial tasks, and my future career potential vanished. I was demoted three levels, and like my colleague, my firearm and credentials were taken. Never in our combined seventy-five years of service have any of us even had a disciplinary action. One of the supervisors said the agency's goal is to bankrupt you, make you quit, die, kill yourselves, or preferably all of the above.

Speaker 1 stated they will do everything in their power to protect Seattle residents from anyone who comes to the city with the intention to hurt them or inhibit their first amendment rights. They believe they will probably go to jail and be in prison because the current administration has threatened to jail politicians and has done so.

The speaker reported a subordinate for criminal conflict of interest but was discouraged from doing so, learning that reporting corruption leads to trouble. Subsequently, the speaker was accused of publishing classified information from two years prior and fired, while those engaged in corruption kept their jobs. This created a culture where criticizing corruption leads to retaliation using tools meant for criminals. The speaker has been in court for three years trying to get the facts released, similar to cases with Senator Ernst, where information is withheld from courts and Congress. Regarding uncovering fraud inside USAID, the speaker believes forensic accountants are needed due to bureaucrats' crafty methods of hiding money. Even in 2019, programs unknown to political appointees were still being discovered. The speaker suggests that during the Trump term, some appointees were not vigilant enough, but now there is a stronger, more concerted effort to obtain all the information.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to elaborate on the statement "they'll be killed," referencing Tara Reid and John Paul Mac Isaac's claims of fearing for their lives under the Biden regime. Speaker 1 states they don't know the context, but the briefing indicated a 3-letter agency told the chairman they couldn't amass someone for that reason. Speaker 1 takes this seriously, as it came from the FBI and was witnessed by others. They find it interesting Fox News received no comment when inquiring about it. Speaker 1 believes individuals fear being harmed for revealing information, given the proven corruption and the billion-dollar impact of politics. They understand that two testimonies are needed for impeachment grounds. Speaker 1 concludes that the extent of the alleged wrongdoings of the Biden family and Joe Biden is worse than many people realize.

In the discussion, Congressmen Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie were shown viewing the unredacted Epstein files on Capitol Hill, including material that had been previously redacted by the DOJ. The hosts question why large portions of the files were redacted and accuse Pam Bondi’s team of noncompliance with the Epstein Transparency Act. They suggest the move to foreground Bondi is a signal of political maneuvering to manage the release of the documents. Speaker 1 presents a Super Bowl ad urging the DOJ to release what the law requires, followed by a note that Epstein’s associate and alleged child sex trafficking figure Ghislain (Ghislaine) Maxwell appeared before Congress and invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked about the men who allegedly abused underage girls. Ro Khanna’s reaction is shared: Maxwell should not be in a cushy setting and should be sent back to maximum security. Speaker 2 emphasizes that, of the files released, the names of clients and coconspirators in the sex trafficking ring have not been disclosed, while victims’ names have been released. This is framed as either over-redaction or omission, with a claim that government names should not be redacted under the Transparency Act. Speaker 0 introduces Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who explains her perspective. She notes the urgency of transparency and states that victims deserve the truth, accusing the DOJ of failing to comply with the Epstein Transparency Act and calling out a persistent “battle” over the release of files even after the 2025 law. Speaker 3 (Greene) describes the impact of the disclosures, noting that the files reveal “violence, possibly murder,” and that survivors’ testimonies are harrowing. She recounts facing personal and political backlash for pushing disclosure, arguing that the administration and many Republicans have shifted their positions since the revelations. She asserts that the released files show that “the DOJ breaking the law” through redactions of names of former presidents, secretaries of state, and government officials, while leaving victim information exposed. Speaker 4 asks Greene about the possibility that the information might point to a broader, deeper network. Greene responds by stating that the files include FBI forms about Epstein, implying a level of official involvement, and asserts that the Trump administration has not released the information; she claims President Trump referred to the Epstein issue as a “Democrat hoax” and that Pam Bondi, who works for Trump, controls the release. Greene suggests the “independent counsel” would be the American people themselves, explaining distrust toward political figures and the two-party system. She shares that she would not vote to support foreign aid or a central bank digital currency, and notes the chilling effect of the retaliation she and Massey have faced from party structures, including loss of campaign staff and suggestions of political blacklisting. Speaker 0 asks about potential accountability or a special counsel and whether there might be more significant revelations. Greene predicts limited accountability, arguing that the president has influence over DOJ and other agencies, and that the people are the true independent counsel. She laments the “uni-party” dynamic and predicts continued resistance to releasing the full Epstein files. Towards the end, Greene reiterates that she does not plan to run for higher office and reflects on the broader political environment, emphasizing that the public’s demand for transparency could drive change. The dialogue closes with Greene expressing willingness to return and discuss further.

The speaker testifies about the weaponization of the FBI and DOJ against its own employees and the American people. He served in the Army in Iraq and Afghanistan, then as a police officer, and later as an FBI special agent. Despite receiving high performance reviews and being selected for specialized units, he has been smeared as a subpar employee after witnessing weaponization within the FBI. He states that too many in the FBI prioritize avoiding difficulty over upholding the Constitution, leading to an Orwellian atmosphere that silences dissent. He is speaking out despite the potential personal cost, including the loss of his job and family's home. He claims the FBI allowed him to accept orders to a new position, sell his family's home, and report to the new unit before suspending him on his first day, rendering his family homeless. He concludes that bad actors have begun running parts of the government, but he will never stop trying to serve the nation and protect the innocent.