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After 9/11, the speaker supported sending troops to Afghanistan but worried about a repeat of the Soviet experience. He claims he privately met with King Zahir Shah of Afghanistan in Paris, convincing him to return to Kabul and unite tribes to accept American troops. The speaker states his intel team informed him that Bin Laden was sighted in Ladiz, Iran. He alleges that the CIA would neither confirm nor deny this information, nor reports that Bin Laden was being treated at a military hospital outside of Tehran. The speaker recounts meetings facilitated by Jack Murtha and Ron Klink, where a former intelligence operative offered to locate Bin Laden in Tehran. Separately, an Interior Department bird expert introduced him to a falconer who claimed his contacts could locate Bin Laden in Iran by tracking his birds. The speaker says that Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's Bin Laden task force, contacted him after he left office, stating that the people who met with him had shown him documents he never saw while working at the agency.

According to Speaker 1, the intelligence agencies hid the fact that Bin Laden was in Iran, not Afghanistan or Pakistan, to justify military action in the Middle East. This manipulation started under Clinton and continued under Bush Jr. Speaker 1 claims that intelligence agencies have tentacles around the world and don't answer to anyone, which is a problem for Trump. Speaker 1 alleges that they were targeted after questioning 9/11, resulting in an FBI raid on their daughter's house weeks before an election, which they believe was politically motivated to remove them from office. No charges were ever filed against the daughter, and boxes taken were returned unopened months later. Speaker 1 claims that the person who ran the campaign against them was managed by the staff director of Sandy Berger's company. Speaker 1 asserts that some individuals within intelligence agencies are making money from conflicts and vows to expose them.

Shortly after 9/11, the speaker encountered Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz at the Pentagon. A general called him urgently, revealing that they had decided to go to war with Iraq. When asked why, the general admitted they didn't have any new evidence connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda. The decision was made because they didn't know what else to do about terrorism and believed their military could overthrow governments. Weeks later, the speaker asked if they were still going to war with Iraq, to which the general responded that it was even worse. He showed the speaker a classified memo outlining plans to attack seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and ending with Iran. The speaker regrets not seeing the memo and asks for the general's name.

The speaker claims Biden, Hillary, and Clinton made an agreement with Iran to move Bin Laden to Pakistan, then back to Iran. Communication from Iran to Obama allegedly said, "we got your neck in a noose," demanding money. The speaker states $152 billion, including $2 billion on an airplane pallet, was paid for secrets, and that Obama and Biden paid with the blood of Seal Team Six by having them killed. This is described as blackmail and extortion. The speaker claims to possess terabytes of documents, video, and audio evidence. When asked if they would deliver the documents to President Trump with guaranteed safety and transportation, the speaker agreed, stating they are not concerned about safety and it would be their pleasure to bring the material to President Trump.

A speaker asks if the recipient is aware that many Americans believe a recent shooting was a coordinated assassination attempt, not the act of a lone shooter. The speaker cites the shooter's age, proximity to the target with an AR-15, drone surveillance, and being spotted with a rangefinder as reasons for suspicion. The speaker, identifying himself as a former Navy SEAL sniper, notes the obvious sniper position from a water tower. He asks if the recipient is surprised that Americans suspect more to the story, given attempts to bankrupt and imprison the target, and depictions of him as Hitler. The speaker asks if the recipient's team entered and investigated the suspect's home prior to the shooting, to which the recipient says they participated in securing it and provided bomb assets. The speaker then asks if any agents reported anything "fishy" at the home, such as silverware or trash, or if it was extremely clean like a medical lab. The recipient states he was not given those details. The speaker concludes that this is what he is hearing and finds it "interesting."

An individual claims his staff advisor said he could become president if he helped bring Bin Laden back with a share of the $50 million reward. He alleges Leon Panetta instructed him to focus on North Korea only and not pursue Bin Laden in Iran. He says he's had daily discussions with the Iranian government, supervised by his attorney, and has sent 88 pages of translated correspondence to President Ahmadinejad, discussing scenarios for Bin Laden's transfer and analyzing US concessions. He is assembling a bipartisan coalition to go to Iran to discuss Bin Laden's transfer and wants Senators Collins and Lieberman to accompany him to the Oval Office to brief the President. He believes Hillary Clinton inherited and enlarged this policy from the Bush administration. Another individual says his daughter's house was raided by the FBI and that a book being written by a US Attorney will expose the truth. He plans to connect the speaker with Brian Ettinger, Joe Biden's close friend and chairman of the interagency organized crime task force. Ettinger confirms he was told the speaker wants Collins and Lieberman to brief the President or Vice President. The speaker claims Bin Laden has been met six times inside Iran and that Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta are involved in covering it up. He says Bin Laden is protected by the US because he made a deal not to attack inside the US.

The speaker recalls a conversation about going to war with Iraq. They question the reason behind it and inquire about any evidence linking Saddam to Al Qaeda, but there is none. The speaker later learns about a memo outlining plans to attack seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and ending with Iran. When they ask if the memo is classified, the person confirms it is. The speaker mentions bringing up the memo again in a recent conversation, but the person denies ever showing it to them.

The speaker claims that despite the FBI's extensive search under Louis Free, they have been unable to locate Osama bin Laden. The speaker contrasts this with a reporter who easily found and interviewed bin Laden with no budget. The speaker suggests two possibilities: either the entire US intelligence community is incompetent, or they are lying about searching for bin Laden. The speaker alleges that the CIA created, recruited, and trained Osama bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, and continues to fund him to create a "boogeyman" for world government, now that Saddam Hussein is no longer viable. The speaker urges listeners not to believe anything blamed on Osama bin Laden.

The speaker claims that despite the FBI's extensive search under Louis Free, they have been unable to locate Osama bin Laden, while a reporter easily found and interviewed him. This suggests either incompetence within the US intelligence agencies or a deliberate deception. The speaker alleges that the CIA created, recruited, trained, and funded Osama bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. They claim the CIA continues to fund bin Laden and is now using him as a "boogeyman" to bring about world government, as Saddam Hussein is no longer viable. The speaker urges listeners not to believe anything blamed on Osama bin Laden.

The speaker discusses the FBI's investigation into a person accused of espionage. The FBI mistakenly believed that the person had left the country, but he was actually living in DC. Despite this, the FBI hired him and paid him over $200,000, even though they knew he was a Russian spy. The speaker also mentions another individual, Charles Dolan, who was a source for the false dossier used to spy on American citizens. Dolan and the Russian spy even met on a park bench, but the FBI refused to interview Dolan. The speaker criticizes the FBI's actions and highlights the problem of running investigations from headquarters instead of assigning a US attorney.

Starting in 2023, a British nongovernment organization, which specializes in conflict resolution, invited me to help them bring this guy out of the terrorist world and into regular politics. And at first, I have to tell you, I was very leery of going. I sort of had images of me in an orange jumpsuit with a knife to my throat. But after talking to several people who had gone in, and one of whom had met him, I decided to take the chance. And so the first time I met him, this guy's name, is known to Gare, was Abdul Qatir Jolani, but his actual name is Ahmed Sharah, which he only revealed to the world after he captured Damascus in the Blitzkrieg of December 2024, about five months ago. First time I met him, I sat down next to him, and I'm literally as close as I am to Roy. And I said, this is all in Arabic, I said, never in a million years could I imagine that I would be sitting next to you. Long beard, thin fatigues. And he looked at me, he speaks very softly. And he said, me neither. And we went on and actually had a pretty civil conversation. I share this because he said something which really piqued my interest. He never apologized, never apologized for the terrorist attacks in Iraq or in Syria, although there were many fewer in Syria. Never apologized. But he also said, you know, now I am governing an opposition held area of Northwest Syria, and I am learning that the tactics and the principles that I was following in Iraq do not apply when you actually have to govern 4,000,000 people. And they had 2,000,000 residents of that area of Syria, and then another 2,000,000 refugees who had come there from other parts of Syria. So they had a population of 4,000,000. He said, I am learning that to govern, you have to make compromises. I was very struck by that. So that was in March 2023, just over two years ago. We went back a second time in September.

Before Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden became a new threat after the Gulf War. However, the speaker claims that if they were the head of the CIA, they would have captured or killed bin Laden within two weeks. They mention a CNN reporter who supposedly interviewed bin Laden in his secret hideout, but the speaker dismisses it as false and calls anyone who believes it foolish. The speaker warns not to trust any future events blamed on bin Laden.

To create a defensive program against bioterrorism, the speaker consulted with unconventional sources. These included former U.S. bioweapons experts from decades ago, international figures from countries like the U.K., and defectors from the Soviet Union. The speaker learned from these experts to inform the development of a multi-billion dollar program.

Someone sent the speaker a video of a young, talented person from Chicago attacking him, claiming his father was in the CIA. The speaker initially dismissed this as untrue. However, after his father's death in March, he learned his father was indeed involved in that world, which shocked him. The speaker questions how this person knew about his father's involvement in intelligence, given his father's age. The person in the video claimed the speaker was a CIA operative. The speaker vehemently denies this, expressing strong animosity towards the CIA. He also says the person has since claimed he is funded by Russia. The speaker finds the CIA accusation personally offensive.

The speaker discusses their efforts to bring Osama bin Laden back to the United States from Iran. They mention speaking with Leon Panetta, who advised them to focus on North Korea and not pursue bin Laden in Iran. They claim to have had discussions and negotiations with the Iranian government and have corresponded with President Ahmadinejad. They also mention their desire to involve Senator Susan Collins and Joe Lieberman in negotiations with Iran. The speaker expresses concerns about their family's security and mentions a book being written by a US attorney. They plan to have a conference call with Brian Ettinger, who is Joe Biden's close friend and former staffer. The speaker mentions their involvement in falconry and their connections to the royal family in the United Arab Emirates. They also discuss their encounters with bin Laden in Iran and their opposition to the Bush and Clinton administrations' handling of the situation.

I was surprised to find CIA documents about bird cameras. The program started in 1976, using 16mm film for surveillance. Funding reached almost $1,000,000. The documents also mention using electrical brain stimulation for guidance and influencing human behavior. It's spooky to think about. The birds really do work for the CIA.

I hate drama. I hate influencer drama. I hate Internet drama. I hate the theatrics of it. And so I want to tell you something. The only reason that I'm going up against Crenshaw is I am sick and tired of watching government officials and people in high places try to silence and bully regular American citizens. I'm sick of saying it. Somebody's gotta stand up to this shit. It might as well be me. It might as well be me. On 12/09/2025, I received a legal demand letter from lawyers representing congressman Dan Crenshaw. They are threatening to sue me for defamation because of comments I made on my podcast about a message that he sent me. So this all transpired from a conversation that I had with Tulsi Gabbard. And I was concerned... Although I didn't mention his name in the interview... I wanted to know how a newer congressman can afford to hire a mainstream DJ, Steve Aoki, to spin at his fortieth birthday party. I didn't just make this up. Somebody sent me the invitation that he had sent out to everybody for his fortieth birthday. And so that's where I got this from. Anyways, here's the clip with Tulsi. Is there any direct money? I mean, know, you see all these people you see all these people show up in Congress, the Senate, the cabinet, whatever, and, you know, not wealthy. Yeah. Speaker 1: I don't have firsthand experience in this. I have often questioned the same thing. I know a big factor is the insider trading that goes on in Congress. And again, some people will say, well, like, hey, I didn't know anything about this. I'm just making investments for my family or my wife or my husband is making investments. I don't know anything about what's going on. Maybe they're being honest, maybe they're not. But the reality is you're in a position where you're making decisions, either in committee or on the House floor, that influence our markets, that influence the outcomes of certain industries, either causing some to tank or others to skyrocket. And the mere perception of insider trading shouldn't exist. This is legislation, again, I introduced in Congress years ago. No member of Congress should be allowed to do any trading of any stocks, neither should their spouse, neither should their senior staff. Period. These are the people who have access to proprietary private information that's not open to everybody in the public, or certainly before it becomes public. And the possibility of the abuse of power in trading on that information should not exist. It's interesting because as we're seeing there are some members of Congress who say that share my view on that, but who are continuing to trade stocks themselves. The Senate just passed, I think out of committee, first step legislation that would reflect similar to banning members and their spouses. We'll see where it goes. In the Senate we've heard a lot of talk coming from leaders from both parties, but no action has been taken. That to me is the most obvious way that people are going from being elected and having no money and you make, what, dollars $160 a year or whatever the salary is now to literally becoming multimillionaires. That is the most obvious way. There are kind of stringent requirements of financial reporting that every member has to do certainly at least once a year, more often if you are actively trading in stocks. But it I think it would be a little hard, not impossible, but a little hard if somebody's just coming and bringing you a sack of cash. Speaker 0: So after the conversation with Tulsi, that's when I got the text or the message on Instagram from congressman Crenshaw that I find threatening, telling me he spoke with his boys at six. Here's a screenshot. Hey, Sean. You have the ability to contact your fellow team guy if you've got a problem with me or have questions about how I'm getting rich. Some of my boys at six told me about your indirect swipe at me. Some of my beliefs are based on trendy narratives instead of facts. And just so you know, I mean, Dan does have a history of threatening people. Once again, here is Dan threatening to kill Tucker Carlson. And then, again, he reaffirms that he's not joking. Speaker 2: Have you ever met Tucker? Speaker 0: We've talked a lot. He's the worst person. Okay. So I get the message. I take it is extremely threatening. It is a tier one unit, the best, most effective tier one unit in the world, deadliest unit. But I don't do anything. I move on. And then a little over a year later, I'm interviewing, oh, a member from SEAL Team six. Maybe he's one of Dan's boys at six. So he brought up the fact that he had asked a congressman with an eye patch, didn't wanna mention his name, to help him with his book debacle. He received no aid. I filled in the blank. I said, oh, you must be talking about congressman Crenshaw. Let me share my experience with you, my interactions with congressman Crenshaw. So I shared him. I told him about the Instagram message, and I told him that I found that threatening. And then I asked Matt if he was one of Dan's boys at six, Maybe he was here to come beat me up. Matt assured me he wasn't. Here's the clip. Speaker 2: I'll give you another example. In the height of my my issues, I contacted a former SEAL. I won't name names, but he has an eye patch, And he's a congressman out of a state You Speaker 0: mean Dan Crenshaw? Speaker 2: I'm not naming names. Speaker 0: Another one of my Speaker 2: favorite Sir, here's my situation. You know, Dan? Speaker 0: Dan actually sent me a message. I should fucking read this to you. But, basically, he tells me I brought something up about him, and I never even met I gave him the courtesy of not even mentioning his fucking name. It was about his birthday party where he hired Steve Aoki to to DJ his birthday. I mean, that can't be fucking cheap. Right? Especially on a congressman's salary. And I brought that up. And Dan sends me a message that says his boys over at six are really upset with me that I brought that up, and they're gonna they might come beat me up. Speaker 2: Boys at six. Speaker 0: His boys over at six. Speaker 2: Well, to infer he's got I don't know why congressman would be Speaker 0: threatening me with seal team six, but I'm still fucking waiting. This is actually a couple years This Speaker 2: is threatened quite a Speaker 0: have not had my ass kicked by a couple of guys over at six. But Dan Crunchy he fits with all these fucking people you're talking about. Speaker 2: So I called him. Right? He's a sitting congressman. He's a former officer. And drum roll, please, he was getting ready to release his book. So I call him up. I get a conversation with him. I said, sir, here's my situation. I hired an attorney. The attorney gave me bad advice. Book was published. I've given up attorney client privilege, cooperated everything I can to to fix this. They've still come after me. We can get into all the the other stuff that I'm dealing with. I said, sir, can you help me out with this? He's like, well, you know, I'm I'm about ready to publish my book, and I'm I'm not getting it reviewed. I'm like, well, sir, same same letter of the law that they came after me for failure to seek prepublication review. I didn't get prepublication review because my lawyer told me I didn't have to, and he could do it. Like, in your case, you know you have to get reviewed. I'm here telling you, confirming you have to get reviewed or the government's gonna come after you. He's like, yeah. No. But I'm not gonna write anything classified in my book. I'm like, there's nothing classified in my book. They they said there was. They went through it. They said, nope. There's nothing classified in it. You just failed to seek review. I'm like, so if I only thing I failed to do was seek review, you're willingly going around that obligation, and you don't give a shit. He's like, yeah. But I'm not gonna write about anything classified in my book. That was his answer. Never talked to him again. So he published his book. No review. Nothing's happened. He's kept his money. He's a sitting congressman. I got a payment plan. So so to say I've been alone So Speaker 0: I guess I guess you're not one of Dan's boys over at six. Speaker 2: That's kinda Definitely not Dave Boys at six. That's a pretty ridiculous statement if I've ever heard one.

About 10 days after 9/11, the speaker met with Secretary Rumsfeld at the Pentagon. A general informed him that they had decided to go to war with Iraq, but when asked why, the general had no answer. There was no evidence linking Saddam to Al Qaeda, but they felt they had a strong military and could overthrow governments. Later, the speaker learned that there was a memo outlining plans to attack seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and ending with Iran. The speaker asked if the memo was classified, and it was confirmed to be so.

The speaker discusses their efforts to bring Osama bin Laden back to the United States from Iran. They mention speaking with Leon Panetta, who advised them to focus on North Korea and not pursue bin Laden in Iran. They claim to have had discussions and negotiations with the Iranian government and have corresponded with President Ahmadinejad. They also mention their desire to involve Senator Susan Collins and Joe Lieberman in negotiations with Iran. The speaker expresses concerns about their family's security and mentions a book being written by a US attorney. They plan to have a conference call with Brian Ettinger, who is Joe Biden's close friend and former staffer. The speaker mentions their involvement in falconry and their connections to the royal family in the United Arab Emirates. They also discuss their interactions with Sheikh Mohammed and Sheikh Saud. They mention their opposition to the Bush administration and Hillary Clinton's involvement in protecting bin Laden.

The speaker criticizes the FBI for not being able to find Osama bin Laden despite a reporter with no budget managing to interview him in his hideout. The speaker questions whether the intelligence community is incompetent or lying about their search for bin Laden. They claim that the CIA created bin Laden, trained him, and funded him to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Now, bin Laden is being used as a scapegoat to further the agenda of world government. The speaker urges viewers not to believe anything that will be blamed on bin Laden in the future.

The speaker explains he is trying to navigate possible collaboration with federal authorities while maintaining personal integrity. He says he has a statement that is “completely true” that he’s “never been in contact with any federal authority,” and he’s torn about how to start working with DHS to address threats he faces as a national figure. He claims “the Yemenis, a million of them came out into the streets” and that they want to kill him, with a fatwa on his head. He asserts he would need DHS to make a statement that “the Houthis and their fatwa that they placed on my head will not be stood,” and that “American citizens exercising our rights will not be, you know, subject to to Muslim murder, rituals.” He describes hundreds of thousands of death threats in his DMs and says, to deal with them, he would need to walk into an FBI building and give them a printout, but he “don’t fucking trust the FBI.” He accuses the FBI of having “destroyed my life,” pointing to past raids on his and others’ homes and references to the Mar-a-Lago search, stating he is trying to figure out how to navigate this situation without claiming contact with Harmeet or making contacts he “don’t want to.” He notes that when he and others exercised their rights in Dearborn, he views it as a civil rights hate crime, saying “the Muslim oppression of Christians in Dearborn” was a civil rights hate violation and that “they punched me in the face because I’m white” and “they punched me in the face because I’m Christian, not for anything else.” Harmony Dillon is described as wanting to prosecute this as a hate crime, with others subjected to spit, food thrown, assaults, pepper spray, etc. He mentions the Trump administration’s purported interest in bringing these people to justice, but he expresses a wish not to feed into it, citing personal integrity and caution. He questions whether the rank-and-file FBI officer’s motives are aligned with his interests, contrasting a year ago with a “grandma that walked through the capital” to now a Muslim who punched a Christian, implying hypocrisy or moral decline. He asserts there are “deep state embedded figures in the DOJ, in the FBI, in DHS,” who were involved in actions like the raid on Mar-a-Lago and other “schemes.” He says he needs assurance that these agencies have “our best interest” and that they are not “deep state shills.” Ultimately, he states he has refused to make contact because it’s “too risky” and he cannot be associated with people he deems “un American.”

A CNN reporter supposedly found Osama bin Laden, interviewed him and his top leaders in their hideout, and reported that bin Laden would attack the U.S. and Israel within three weeks. The speaker finds this suspicious because the U.S. intelligence community and the FBI have been searching for bin Laden for years without success. The speaker believes that either the intelligence agencies are incompetent or they are lying. The speaker claims the CIA created, recruited, and trained Osama bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, and continues to fund him. They are allegedly using him as a "boogeyman" to bring about world government, now that Saddam Hussein is no longer useful. The speaker urges listeners not to believe anything that will be blamed on Osama bin Laden.

The speaker claims that a year before 9/11, they identified every Al Qaeda cell, including the New York cell, but the Able Danger team was stopped from sharing this information with the FBI three times. They assert that former FBI Director Louie Free stated this information could have prevented 9/11. They also allege that after criticizing the agency, the Pentagon's inspector general, John Crane, filed a whistleblower paper claiming he was told to lie to Congress. The speaker calls the 9/11 Commission a "cover-up," led by Philip Zelikow, who was allegedly handpicked by Condoleezza Rice. They claim Zelikow shut down Tony Schaeffer's office and tried to destroy his career after Schaeffer met with him in Afghanistan and had information about 9/11 in advance. The speaker states that the government bought and destroyed all copies of Schaeffer's book, "Dark Heart," because it named Zelikow. They also claim that the intelligence they received as vice chairman of a committee was not solid, and they formed a network of intelligence agency insiders who fed them raw data. They allege that intelligence agencies manipulate the media and play games with Congress. The speaker believes that some individuals within these agencies have become wealthy through their positions. They claim that after speaking out, the FBI raided their daughter's house, leading to their electoral defeat. They felt responsible for 9/11 because they knew it could have been prevented.

The speaker claims that despite the FBI's extensive search under Louis Free, they have been unable to locate Osama bin Laden, while a reporter easily found and interviewed him. This suggests either incompetence or deception within U.S. intelligence agencies. The speaker alleges the CIA created, recruited, trained, and funded Osama bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, and continues to use him as a "boogeyman" to bring about world government, now that Saddam Hussein is no longer viable. The speaker urges listeners not to believe anything blamed on Osama bin Laden.

About ten days after 9/11, the speaker describes going through the Pentagon and seeing Secretary Rumsfeld. A general then pulls him aside and says they must talk briefly. The general says, “we’ve made the decision. We’re going to war with Iraq.” When the speaker asks, “Why?” the general replies, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” The speaker asks if they found information connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda. The response is, “No. There’s nothing new that way.” The general explains they had “made the decision to go to war with Iraq,” and that it seems, as the speaker reflects, “we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we got a good military and we can take down governments.” A few weeks later, the speaker returns to see the general amid bombing campaigns in Afghanistan and inquires again, “We still going to war with Iraq?” The answer is presented as worse than prior: the speaker says the general tells him, “I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the secretary of defense office today.” He describes a memo that outlines “how we're gonna take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.” The speaker asks if the memo is classified, and the general confirms, “yes, sir.” He adds, “Don’t show it to” (the transcript ends there). Key elements include the asserted decision to invade Iraq without evidence of a direct link to Al Qaeda, the perception that the administration chose military action because other options were unclear, and the claim of a broader plan to “take out seven countries in five years” beginning with Iraq and extending through Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran, with the memo described as classified. The account ties the Iraq invasion decision to a larger strategic agenda and emphasizes a chain of communication from the secretary of defense’s office to field-level comprehension, all within the context of ongoing Afghanistan bombing.