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I explore the concept of feminine responsibility and its misalignment with societal expectations shaped by masculine norms. The historical shift to agrarianism distanced women from nature's feedback, limiting their development of responsibility. This has led to a perception of universal irresponsibility among women, which is a result of inadequate adaptive pressures rather than inherent traits. I argue that societal collapse stems from the separation of decision-makers from those who bear the costs, rather than from women's political engagement. The focus should be on restoring accountability across genders.
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@LukeWeinhagen - Luke Weinhagen

FEMININE RESPONSIBILITY (OR NOT) Q: Presentations from the Natural Law Institute imply, or state, that the feminine is irresponsible and any difference in behavior from the masculine will reduce to evasion of responsibility, do you mean politically or universally? Has the point been made to differentiate between political irresponsibility, which involves a monopoly of responsibility for children and the local community (which healthy women do), and universal irresponsibility, which results from the cultivation of immaturity that currently afflicts both genders? A: The feminine attempts to evade *masculine* responsibility. In the process of our domestication into interactions of civilization, the West (and most others that frequently interact with the West) shifted nearly every market, including the political, to being nearly exclusively markets of masculine responsibility. As such, there is currently little observable distinction between "irresponsible by the measure of masculine expression" and "universal irresponsibility". This does not reflect an inherent irresponsibility in the feminine, but a misalignment with the forms of responsibility recognized, incentivized, and rewarded in today’s social structures. This misalignment stems from inadequate exposure to adaptive pressure to produce responsibility. There is overlap, but environmental pressures differ in producing the expressions of masculine and feminine responsibility. We’ve been pushing adaptive pressures away from women (and thus the primary vector for developing the feminine expression of responsibility) far longer and more completely than men (at least until the last few generations). Agrarianism itself erected a barrier between nature and women in ways it wasn't for men. By that, I'm not suggesting it was easy for either women or men; just that the move to agrarianism began the slow process of driving the dangers of nature away from the farm and home. The entire record of our civilization will reflect this break from nature’s feedback. From the earliest writings, we see men observing women's less developed nature. We just never see them connecting this "less developed nature" to the essential observation of being "less exposed to nature." I’m hoping we come to recognize this cause-and-effect relationship before men fully catch up to women in this "less exposed to nature" dynamic. One of the strongest feedback mechanisms for the development of responsibility is exposure to being the needs provider to another. Put another way, to have someone else depend upon you. The most accessible way for this to occur throughout history was parenthood. Many other proxies for parenthood have also emerged throughout history: - The older sibling in larger families. - The older student in the one-room school house. - The minder of neighborhood children. - The young employee of the family business. - The apprenticeship. - The position within a hierarchy. - The position​s of leadership in the community, the church, the job, the military or the government. You can see from this short, nowhere near exhaustive, list that we've largely removed the domains where the feminine best develops. That aligns most strongly with the nurture bias of the reproductive female. Leaving the most masculine-biased proxies in place. These masculine domains are also those that favor masculine group correction. The demand for responsibility from each other. The demand for responsibility gets promoted in the demonstration of merit. In these masculine domains, unequal outcomes drive feedback from peers as a proxy for feedback from nature. To the feminine development of responsibility, this kind of feedback feels just as oppressive as nature's feedback from a dangerous environment would feel. We didn't do this for men on purpose. It was a happy accident that many of these masculine domains are simply required to keep society functioning - even as it slowly collapses. A happy accident stumbled upon by stupid apes. As such, men are still exposed to more proxy pressures, including each other. Women, by contrast, don’t even raise their kids anymore, dropping them into daycare from the age of 2, while they spend their days immersed in male proxy pressures (​and once there, fighting the very things that make those effective pressure proxies for males). The removal of adaptive pressure from men is catching up rapidly. What often gets called the "feminization of men" is instead the withdrawal of adaptive pressures producing the development of pro-social adaptations. In the context of slow progression that is adaptive pressures, the Industrial Revolution effectively did to men what the Agrarian Revolution did to women - jump-started the process of wrenching open a gap between their daily lives and their direct exposure to nature's feedback. Men are becoming more like women for the same reason women became more like children - in our well-intentioned distancing of the dangers of our natural environment we inadvertently removed the feedback that produces adults. And we've not been paying close enough attention to link one to the other allowing us to internationally develop proxies to compensate.

@LukeWeinhagen - Luke Weinhagen

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@LukeWeinhagen - Luke Weinhagen

INSURERS & DECIDERS (the "women in politics" issue) In a healthy society/civilization, these are the same entities. As they separate, and to the degree they separate, societal/civilizational dysfunction manifests until eventually no insurance is left and the society/civilization collapses. Some framing - In World War 2 the Royal Air Force was losing lots of planes to enemy fire over mainland Europe. They turned to the Statistical Research Group at Columbia University to assess what could be done. The SRS recorded bullet holes in planes that made it back creating a hit map. The obvious impulse based on these hit maps was to armor those areas receiving the most damage. One of the group's members, mathematician Abraham Wald, advised to instead reinforce those areas clear of hits on the hit maps. His reasoning, the planes used to determine where hits occurred were the ones that survived and made it back. Those hits were survivable. It is the areas where their maps showed no data that represents the planes that did not make it back. The impulse to armor the obvious hit zones represents survivorship bias. When we focus on the obvious problem we often miss underlying causal contributors. I view the collapse of societies/civilizations much the same way. (generalizations required to articulate the broad dynamic) Depending on how we measure, there have been anywhere from a few dozen to a few hundred distinct societies/civilizations in recorded history. Nearly all of them have collapsed. Ended. Transformed into something completely wiped from existence or transformed into something different enough from what they emerged as to no longer be the same society/civilization. And across those societies/civilizations, only a small fraction have granted women political to any real degree. So when I look at this problem I have to think - maybe it is not women (or the feminine) having political franchises that represent what causes the collapse of societies/civilizations. It certainly looks like women in politics must be the problem as we examine our own society/civilization. The primary vectors of undermining can largely be traced back to changes in politics and policy emerging after women's suffrage, both in the US and across the West. The political engagement of the feminine lights up the hit map of societal/civilizational "hits". "Women in Politics" represents the obvious problem that must be reinforced. Right? Yes. And No. You see, I don't use our society/civilization as the representative sample for the problem. I add our hit map to the data from as many other societies/civilizations as know well enough to use as samples. As I mentioned earlier, most of these did not have women engaged in politics. So while women in politics may be OUR problem, it seems unlikely it is THE problem. Instead, what I see is any time those making directional decisions for a society/civilization are different from those insuring a society/civilization, that civilization begins to fall apart. If your insurers, those responsible for paying the costs of decisions, and the decision makers separate the decisions themselves lose their incentives to support the well-being of the society/civilization. Our founders recognized this dynamic. It was voiced in their primary complaint; "Taxation without representation!" They were held accountable as insurers of the decisions affecting their society/civilization but were not afforded a corresponding role as decision-makers. We recognize this when we point to the ideal of the "Ruler of Last Resort" being embodied in the same entity as the "Insurer of Last Resort". It's why monarchies, at least those that maintain these dynamics, worked throughout history. And why our founders in the US set our government up specifically to create a governing body serving this role. Success has led us to the opposite conditions today, where the decision-making is in the hands of people who pay no costs for the decisions they make. Detached from any investment into the society/civilization. Extractive and parasitic. Consumptive. Adding even more weight to the feminine expressions, the consumptive expressions, are the source of the problem. My argument is that dependence, not women, produces the problem. That the separation of decision from insurance is the underlying cause. Free riding. Cost evasion. Responsibility evasion. Accountability evasion. All just separation of decision from insurance. "It's the women" accounts for our societal/civilizational collapse. "It's the evasion" accounts for all societal/civilizational collapse. We see evasion so strongly associated with women in the West because agrarianism began the separation of women from natural pressures early and effectively. Removed from them the adaptive pressure to express the abstract responsibility required to insure society/civilization. Guaranteeing we get exactly to where we are not once women are fully engaged in politics. The West is a society/civilization built from the ground up to separate children first, and women as the caretakers of children second, from the costs of direct exposure to nature. A social structure that ensures they are unlikely to become insurers while simultaneously our high-trust bias compels us to extend them the responsibility as decision-makers. But again in this, the problem is not women inherently (as it looks obvious to be), but the separation between insurer and decision maker. The blank spots in our societal/civilizational hit map. When my peers frequently observe that many societal/civilizational problems can find their origin in women's suffrage they are not incorrect. When they argue that removing women from politics will solve the problem, the survivorship bias occurs. Because of the way the West has developed and evolved, women in our society/civilization have become the primary vector of the underlying cause but they are not inherently the underlying cause. If we "solve the feminine influence in politics issue" we may delay collapse (making us even more blind to the true threat in the process). But as history overwhelmingly shows us, masculinity itself is no safeguard of society/civilization. If our society/civilization permits the separation of cost accruing from cost paying, decision-making from insuring, we lose our society/civilization - no matter who. (The upside is that the fix is the same no matter the who, no separation of cost making and cost paying - no political power for the dependent, any dependent.)

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