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Posted - May 9, 2026 at 6:00 AM
Saved - May 9, 2026 at 11:55 AM
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I trace a link: Oceanwide Expeditions’ MV Hondius and the Fentener van Vlissingen family via BCD Leisure, which sells Oceanwide trips. The family’s SHV/Makro interests edge into healthcare, with ties to Erasmus MC, and to Ab Osterhaus, Marion Koopmans, Diederik Gommers, and Marco Goeijenbier through ESWI and vaccine/patent networks. This web raises questions about whether these connections influence public narratives around pandemics and outbreaks.
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
English translation: - May 9, 2026 - By Martin Vrijland - Oceanwide Expeditions - MV Hondius What is the link between Oceanwide Expeditions, Ab Osterhaus, Marion Koopmans, Diederik Gommers, Marco Goeijenbier, and the billionaire Fentener van Vlissingen family? Oceanwide Expeditions, the Dutch company behind the MV Hondius (where the alleged hantavirus outbreak occurred), appears to be linked to the billionaire Fentener van Vlissingen family. Of course, one could dismiss it as a mere coincidence, but that would be too simplistic. How exactly does it connect? Well, BCD Leisure — part of the BCD Group owned by the Dutch billionaire Fentener van Vlissingen family — sells tickets for Oceanwide Expeditions, including cruises on the MV Hondius. Although BCD Leisure does not own any ships itself, it offers Oceanwide’s expeditions to its business and private clients. Cruises on the MV Hondius form a prominent part of this offering due to the ship’s modern facilities and focus on polar voyages to the Arctic and Antarctica. The Fentener van Vlissingen family has two major business branches. BCD Group was founded by John Fentener van Vlissingen (†2025) and focuses on business travel and leisure. SHV Holdings, headed by Annemiek Fentener van Vlissingen, is the broader family business behind companies such as Makro and Mammoet. Annemiek attended the 2025 Bilderberg Conference in Stockholm. Through SHV’s investment vehicle NPM Capital, the family is active in the healthcare sector with a buy-and-build strategy and stakes in NL Healthcare Clinics, Bergman Clinics, and Mentaal Beter, among others. Although the family is not a well-known direct producer of medicines, John Fentener van Vlissingen stated in 2021 that the pharmaceutical industry is one of the larger clients of their broader business activities. Martje Fentener van Vlissingen was, until recently, director of the Erasmus Experimental Animal Center (EDC) in Rotterdam, where she worked for over twenty years. Also connected to Erasmus MC was virologist Ab Osterhaus, who led the Virology department there for decades. Ab OsterhausIn 2001, Ab Osterhaus founded Viroclinics from Erasmus MC, a company specialized in testing vaccines and antiviral drugs for the pharmaceutical industry. Osterhaus also held shares in the Swedish company Isconova, which filed a patent application in 2011 together with Viroclinics for a vaccine adjuvant. The patent was granted in the name of Erasmus MC and Novavax. Isconova was subsequently sold to Novavax for $29.6 million. The share sale personally netted Osterhaus €5.6 million — an amount he initially refused to confirm but eventually acknowledged to Follow the Money. At the same time, from 2000 onward, Osterhaus was chairman of the European Scientific Working Group on Influenza (ESWI), which described itself as a link between the WHO, the Robert Koch Institute, and the University of Connecticut. ESWI’s funding came entirely from pharmaceutical companies, including Novartis, Hoffman-La Roche, Baxter Vaccines, GlaxoSmithKline, and Sanofi Pasteur. These are the same companies that earned billions from pandemic purchases following the WHO pandemic advice to which Osterhaus contributed as a member of SAGE (Strategic Advisory Group of Experts). A member of that same ESWI, Marco Goeijenbier, is now being deployed by all major Dutch media as an expert to sell the alleged hantavirus outbreak to the public through television programs like "Eva". - Marco Goeijenbier - Diederik Gommers And through Goeijenbier, we arrive at another name from the corona period: OMT member Diederik Gommers. Gommers held a patent on a type of ventilator; the Dutch government purchased €100 million worth of this type during the corona period. Gommers is also connected to Erasmus MC, as is Goeijenbier (a descendant of the Gommers family). And then we haven’t even mentioned Marion Koopmans yet. She too was head of the Virology department at Erasmus MC until 2025. We know Marion well from the Fauci affair and the spun narrative around the Wuhan lab — a story intended solely to keep the infection lie alive so the public would not discover that infections are a fairy tale. By dragging the public into a discussion about whether it was a lab virus or came from bats, the basic lie is perpetually maintained: that contagion theory is a fairy tale and that pandemics served only as an alibi to inject people with programmable substances. Marion Koopmans, Ab Osterhaus, Diederik Gommers, and Marco Goeijenbier must therefore know Martje Fentener van Vlissingen very well. The Fentener van Vlissingen link to Oceanwide Expeditions and the alleged hantavirus outbreak therefore suddenly raises questions. Source: ➡️ martinvrijland.nl/nieuws-analyse…
Posted - May 8, 2026 at 7:27 AM
Saved - May 8, 2026 at 12:26 PM
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I’m asking who led Dugway Proving Ground in Utah during the 2018 Hantavirus outbreak in Argentina. Also, recalling 2015—Dugway reportedly shipped live anthrax bacillus, mislabeled as inert, to bases and contractors. New Scientist suggests they were still producing anthrax spores in 2015 for testing and countermeasures, decades after renouncing biological weapons, shipping inert material worldwide.
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
Who was in charge of U.S. Army Dugway Proving Ground in Utah during the 2018 Hanta outbreak in Argentina? 🇦🇷 Remember the shipments of Anthrax in 2015? In May 2015 it was revealed that Dugway lab had inadvertently shipped live anthrax bacillus to locations around the country. Shipped samples, it was said, were supposed to be inert. According to reports from New Scientist, Dugway was still producing quantities of anthrax spores as late as 2015 to be used to develop anthrax testing detection and countermeasures, more than four decades after the United States renounced biological weapons, and shipping material intended to be inert to military bases and military contractors around the globe.
Posted - September 14, 2025 at 5:26 AM
Saved - September 22, 2025 at 11:06 AM
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
Uncle Mike "Mikey" Robinson - Ukrainian Special Operations - Wounded Warrior Cossack Foundation - Radio Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 - American Red Cross #⃣ CharlieKirk https://t.co/AKtt7x859M
Posted - September 14, 2025 at 5:06 PM
Saved - September 22, 2025 at 10:00 AM
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
@commonsense312 How about Logan Robinson? If you add 8 years to June 2017 you’ll end up in 2025. https://t.co/fQu29He2Ln
Posted - July 3, 2025 at 8:22 AM
Saved - July 3, 2025 at 5:52 PM
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
@DOD_the_OG YES, Dori we are. We are the real Gold-Diggers of Citizen Journalism. - Kootenai County, Idaho - Captain Jim Oxenrider - EMS Chief Pete Holley: Battalion 3 (BATT3) - Coeur d'Alene - Doug Presta - CRISIS24 https://t.co/gpZBqcsOzt
Posted - June 30, 2025 at 3:21 AM
Saved - July 1, 2025 at 8:34 PM
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A user expressed shock over a sniper targeting firefighters on the anniversary of a fire that destroyed the Aryan Brotherhood HQ 24 years prior. Another participant noted that the arson created a dangerous situation for the firefighters. They mentioned Sheriff Robert Norris, who had a background with the Joint Regional Intelligence Center after September 11, and questioned his connections to a previous task force. The conversation highlighted concerns about the implications of these events and the individuals involved.
@ColonelTowner - ColonelTowner-Watkins
I’m sorry WTH? So exactly 24 yrs ago fire fighter burn down the Aryan Brotherhood HQ and today on the anniversary a sniper opens fire on the firefighters after luring them to a fire? 🔥 😳😳😳
@SmeagolsT - Smeagols Thong
@TheNewsTrending 24 years ago today, firefighters burned down the aryan brotherhood headquarters. Same location as the fire & sniper shots. I don’t think this is a coincidence….. https://t.co/9v4QhLHX0J
@knowandserve - Till Wöhler
@SquashBumbles @ColonelTowner @saschact @FrauHodl Arson sets the stage for a shooting pen for firefighters on the 24th anniversary of a fire. And Norris, the 13th Sherriff of Kootenai County, Idaho came from L.A. county and was trained by Mossad.
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
@knowandserve @SquashBumbles @ColonelTowner @saschact Following the September 11 attacks, Robert Norris was selected to lead a team at the newly established Joint Regional Intelligence Center (JRIC) to assist the United States during the war on terror. He held a security clearance for sensitive compartmented information. https://t.co/3QSYnqa5zv
@knowandserve - Till Wöhler
@FrauHodl @SquashBumbles @ColonelTowner @saschact WTF? So Sherriff Robert Norris when he was JRIC was associated with Sherriff Tony Guy's 2001 JTTF team? That Guy overseeing the July 2024 Butler Pac Man where Beaver County snipers left their posts prior to the shots on Trump? @ColonelTowner @jeffreyprather @RealGeorgeWebb1 . https://t.co/5ROPGMvbtj
Posted - June 16, 2025 at 9:42 AM
Saved - June 19, 2025 at 11:40 PM
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
If you understand this, then you'll (almost) understand the current events in Iran. - Iran Nuclear Deal - Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action [JCPOA] - July 14, 2015 in Vienna - January 20, 2016 From Germany: 🇩🇪 Frank-Walter Steinmeier
@RealGeorgeWebb1 - George Webb - Investigative Journalist
Iran cleanup now was caused by DNC nuclear profiteering for Iran Nuclear Deal. We have followed the story for eight years from Piketon, Ohio's nuclear reservation, Megatons to Megawatts, and the Iran Nuclear Deal. https://t.co/a3cXREVIQV
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According to George Webb, the bombing in Iran is a cleanup operation related to loose nukes that originated from uranium that was supposed to go to Piketon. He claims the uranium never arrived there, and that the DNC sold it to Iran in exchange for the Iran nuclear deal, using BlackBerrys.
Webb alleges that Iran now has nuclear capabilities because of this DNC profiteering, specifically mentioning the Podesta Group and John Podesta's ARMZ. He warns that these nuclear weapons, potentially in suitcase form, pose a threat to major cities. He attributes the situation to the DNC selling old Russian uranium from Piketon to terrorists. He concludes by stating that Trump is cleaning up the DNC's mess.
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Speaker 0: Okay. Hello, everyone. George Webb, Iran cleanup. The cleanup in Iran, the bombing of all these these loose nukes that got to Iran. How did the loose nukes get to Iran?
Why are we doing the cleanup seven years later? No. Wait a minute. Eight years later, we went to Piketon. We said that's where the Russian missile uranium, the the winnings of the Cold War, were supposed to go.
We talked to dozens of people that said, hey. The uranium isn't getting here. The canisters are empty. The containers are empty. The Worthington cylinders are empty.
The DNC, we had all these people in Washington saying the DNC sold it to Iran for the Iran nuclear deal with the BlackBerrys. So we had all the evidence, and we've warned, warned, warned, warned over seven years. We've said to surgical strike this thing because this thing is once you get the missile material, the technology beyond that to build an atomic bomb is not that hard. Israel says there's nine bombs. We've had other people saying six.
Other people saying Iran's ready to go with eight. You know, one nuclear bomb ruins your whole day. So this is because this whole thing, this whole Iranian thing is because of the DNC profiteering Podesta Group. We put the Podesta Group out of business with ARMZ, John Podesta's ARMZ, but a whole bunch of people profited. That's what the BlackBerrys were doing with the uranium.
That's why the Iranians have the nuclear capability. That's why we the Western world had no choice. Remember, these people with suitcase nukes can take out major cities. That ruins your whole day if you're sitting there at the coffee. Right?
And if you have one person with one suitcase nuke, right, one DNC operative with a suitcase nuke and you blow up Minneapolis, now they're gonna we're gonna end up paying ransom city by city. We had to stop this thing. But the whole thing started when you give these terrorists nuclear weapons. The DNC sold the old Russian uranium from Piketon, and we we've been talking about this for nine years. Right?
That's where this whole thing started. So don't blame Trump for cleaning up your mess, DNC. You guys are blaming Trump for Trump and baby cleaning up your mess.
Posted - March 26, 2025 at 5:47 PM
Saved - March 28, 2025 at 12:15 AM
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
Talk to Patrick Soon-Shiong about ImmunityBio with Wesley Clark and CIA's John Brennan! What about 9/11 and Windber, Pennsylvania?
@TuckerCarlson - Tucker Carlson
Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong is a surgeon who made billions inventing cancer drugs. He says that Covid, and the vaccines that didn’t stop it, are likely causing a global epidemic of terrifyingly aggressive cancers. (0:00) Why Are Cancer Rates Rising in Young People? (6:16) What Is Causing This Cancer Epidemic? (14:52) Is There a Connection Between Covid and Cancer? (25:33) Why Dr. Soon-Shiong Never Got Covid (39:36) How Big Pharma Tried to Undermine Dr. Soon-Shiong (47:35) Dr. Soon-Shiong’s Analysis of RFK Jr. (1:02:47) The Healthcare Industry’s Conflict of Interest (1:05:51) How to Strengthen Your Immune System (1:10:32) What Your Doctor Won’t Tell You About How to Fight Cancer (1:20:58) Why Hasn’t Anyone Faced Consequences for These Crimes? (1:33:59) Why Dr. Soon-Shiong Bought the LA Times Includes paid partnerships.
Video Transcript AI Summary
Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong expresses concern over rising cancer rates, especially in younger people, citing instances of pancreatic and colon cancer in children. He notes a shift towards "turbocharged cancers" and attributes cancer's cause to the body's inability to kill defective cells due to immune system suppression.
Dr. Soon-Shiong suggests COVID and mRNA vaccines could be related, drawing parallels to oncogenic viruses like hepatitis and HPV. He claims the spike protein in COVID persists, causing inflammation and suppressing natural killer cells. He advocates for clearing the virus and reducing inflammation to restore immune balance.
He reveals his work on a T-cell-based "BioShield" to clear the virus and activate the immune system, contrasting it with antibody-based vaccines. He alleges that government agencies suppressed his efforts, favoring spike protein vaccines that don't clear the virus. He criticizes the FDA and NIH, claiming a "deep state" prioritizes politics over public health.
Dr. Soon-Shiong emphasizes the importance of a strong immune system, sunlight, sleep, and avoiding toxins. He advocates for a cancer treatment approach that exposes tumors, activates killer cells, and suppresses suppressor cells, all while minimizing patient suffering. He also discusses his acquisition of the LA Times and his efforts to promote diverse voices and fact-based opinions.
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Speaker 0: Doctor, thanks a lot for coming on. So you spent your life, you know, fifty years working on treatments for cancer. And when you started, it seemed like we were moving in the West toward the elimination of cancer. Smoking was a huge emphasis. Get rid of tobacco, and cancer rates will drop.
Obviously, smoking does cause cancer, and we got rid of it, basically, but cancer rates went up. And that is a very rarely remarked upon mystery that really bothers me. Tell us, since you you know, you made billions of dollars selling your companies, but you're still involved in medical research, which I admire, where are we now with cancer? What are you seeing in cancer rates?
Speaker 1: Well, what's really worrisome to me now is not just the rate, but the population in which it's increasing, I. E. The younger people. So we're clearly seeing an increase in certain types of cancer like pancreatic cancer, ovarian cancer, and we're seeing that colon cancer. And we're seeing it in younger people.
Speaker 0: Just to set a baseline, what's the ten year survival rate for pancreatic cancer?
Speaker 1: It's horrible. I think, you know, if you have pancreatic cancer today, I don't think there is a ten year survival rate, so to speak. Yes. What there is, however, if you have patients who are what we call the fatal standard of care, survival rate is in months. You measure it in two months.
Speaker 0: Yeah. That's certainly my understanding having watched a lot of people die of it. So advanced pancreatic cancerous edescence, Where are you seeing it now?
Speaker 1: Well, I I gotta tell you a really concerning story. It's not only am I seeing it now, I'm seeing it in younger people. And for the first time in my career, you know, when I left UCLA, I was doing all the Whipples, which is a surgery to actually remove most of the pancreas, a very big operation.
Speaker 0: You're a surgeon as well?
Speaker 1: I'm a surgeon. Yes. And I was also doing pancreas transplants for type two diabetes and islet cell transplants and stem cell transplant. So I had this diverse activity as a UCLA assistant professor. But I never saw pancreatic cancer in children.
And the greatest surprise to me was a 13 year old with metastatic pancreatic cancer that the family called us to help. And to me that was not only devastating, it emphasized the idea that we're seeing people with higher incidence of pancreatic cancer and younger. Right now in our clinic we have 45 year old, 50 year old, and what was sad about this young boy, by the time he came to see us, he had exhausted all standard of care and he came from Butler, Pennsylvania. And all the major medical centers really had exhausted all their therapy. By the time he came to see us, his body was ridden and he passed away.
So seeing cancers now in younger people and almost arise, almost like, I I wanna call it a non infectious pandemic, but this is what I think is gonna the worrisome in the world, not just in United States, but largely in The United States, we're beginning to see this, and it's really worrisome.
Speaker 0: A noninfectious pandemic of cancer, including deadly cancers. Correct. Like pancreatic. In in your career, which I think is about fifty years of working on this, how many 13 year old pancreatic cancer patients have you seen?
Speaker 1: Never. Never. I I inquired around because it bothered me so much now of why this is happening. So doctor Stephen Day was a good friend who who was trained with me at UCLA when I was at UCLA. He's now at the Angeles Clinic, and I called him and he said, listen, Patrick, I'm now seeing an eight year old, a 10 year old, an 11 year old with colon cancer.
Colon cancer. Colon We've never seen that. We're seeing now 30 old, 40 old ladies, young ladies with ovarian cancer. So this is a real phenomenon of a rise of cancer in early people, in in young people, and and really need to get to the bottom of that.
Speaker 0: Do you notice a difference in the virility of the cancer, of the speed with which it moves?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm getting reports, and they've even called it turbocharged cancers.
Speaker 0: I've heard that phrase.
Speaker 1: Right. I'm getting reports of that now that people that have been in remission before, even, are now getting back the cancers and very rapidly progressing. So if you really think about what the cause of cancer is, you know, and I did a piece with Sanjay Gupta many many years ago on sixty Minutes, and I said, you know, the cause of cancer is its inability. It's not the rapidity of its growth, but its inability to die. And its inability to die is because it either hides from the cells that are matter, I.
E. Your natural killer cells, your t cells, or, and this is what I'm really worried about, your body and the cancer has found a way to suppress your killer cells. And once they do that, once they activate what you call the suppressor cells, and you call yourself immunosuppressed, and then I think you see this rapid progression because there's nothing stopping them.
Speaker 0: What could possibly be causing this?
Speaker 1: Well, I think if you look back of causes, you know, ironically, when I was doing at UCLA, I was working on pancreas transplant where I want to immunosuppress the patients.
Speaker 0: Yes. You have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because you prevent and then I was working on cancer where I don't want to immunosuppress. So I I needed to understand the body's mechanism, and we have a crazy, wonderful, exquisite balance in our body. You have the yin and the yang of the killer cells and these things called natural killer cells and t cells.
Speaker 0: Whose job is to kill anything that threatens the body?
Speaker 1: Whose job is to kill, quite right, anything that threatens the body, whether you the body has infection, if you have TB, you have HIV, if you have hepatitis, you have COVID, these cells are there to recognize these infected cells and kill it. As you and I are sitting here today, our stem cells are growing in order to replenish parts of your body, your heart. If you didn't have that, you wouldn't have a heart. At the age of 14, you need those stem cells. But mathematically, there are some cells that are transformed and your body recognizes that through these natural killer cells and kills it.
I call that nature's first responder. And that's your mechanism. That's how we are all protected and we are in this state of equilibrium or balance. On the other hand, the moment either the tumor find a way to hide from these cells or your body's or the tumor causes these cells to be suppressed. And that's why I call this suppressor cells, and there are certain cells in your body called Treg cells or myelodarived suppressor cells, these are all technical, that when they get upregulated, you've lost your protection.
And so the question then is, how do we understand this balance? How do we increase the killers and how do we decrease the suppressors? So that's been fifty years of my challenge of and how do we expose the tumor? So on the one hand, you need to expose the tumor because it hides from the killers. And then you activate the killers.
And the other hand you have to suppress the suppressors. So we're truly playing a good game of chess. And I think like a astrophysicist where you're looking for God's particle, where all these molecules are are floating around talking to each other, all the cells are floating around talking to each other, and this dynamic interaction. And how do you understand all of that? You know, one of the best most fun lectures I gave, I gave a lot of lectures on this and tried to be non technical because it's basic, what I call basic immunology.
And the problem with cancer is it's being treated by oncologists and not immunologists. And immunologists don't see patients because they look at basic immunology, and then when you have infection, then you have virology. So this cross disciplines of virology, immunology, oncology, all these ologies don't talk to each other. Yes.
Speaker 0: So So you're saying just big picture for nonspecialists, of which I'm, of course, one, you're saying that cancer is, to some extent, a problem with your immune system.
Speaker 1: It is everything about your immune system.
Speaker 0: So you've got all kinds of defective cells that could become cancer or cancer in your body at all times.
Speaker 1: At all times.
Speaker 0: But your body is zapping them. Correct. Right? And that's the fundamental balance of the human body. Correct.
And when that body gets out of balance, when the killer cells become suppressed or less effective, that's when you get cancer. Correct. Okay. So I'm sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 1: Just No, I love it because that that's the perfect interpretation that I couldn't do in a nontechnical way because I think that's I I get too nerdy. So I'm glad
Speaker 0: Well, you are a doctor.
Speaker 1: So but that's that that's I think is what's happening in our body. We have these perturbations, but we're in equilibrium, you know, and that's a good thing. The moment you knock yourself out of equilibrium, now what could knock you out of equilibrium? And that's why when, you know, Bobby Kennedy is talking about standing up about the toxins in our food, the toxins in PFAS, the processed food, and viral infections. And really what knocks you out of balance basically is inflammation.
If you have inflammation in your body, there's this now I'm gonna get nerdy again. These cells called neutrophils that actually see an infection and tries to kill it, which it does. But if there's persistent inflammation, these neutrophils actually flip into a suppressor cell. So what people don't realize is that we have the yin yang in our body that every cell has a counter cell. And that's what I I was about to go there.
I said the most fun conversation I had where I was asked by astrophysicists or physicists to give a lecture is I I named this concept of cancer a quantum theory, like a physicist. And that in our body we have cells that can be in two states. It can be a killer or a suppressor. And like the Schroders cat, it could be alive or dead and it depends what you do with it. And so I named this thing Quantum Oncotherapeutics just to be controversial so that doctors could understand what I'm talking about is that we need to understand the fact that you have a killer t cell and you have a killer suppressor cell.
We have an m one macrophage that actually chomps things up, and m two macrophages that blocks that. You have an n k cell that kills, and NK cells that inhibits. And we need to have that balance, otherwise you'll get into autoimmune disease. But there's a thing called quantum entanglement that is the scat alive or is the scat dead? If somebody interacts with that, and the person that interacts with that is the doctor.
So you as a doctor could either be enlightened enough to activate just the activators and suppress the suppressors and change the dynamic towards the cure. But it's very complex because it's now quantum because all those changes are happening in minutes in your body. These molecules, like God's particle, where they're colliding with each other and cells are colliding and interacting, happens within minutes. So you need to have a theory of how you interact at that level. And in so doing, the first thing you need to understand is how does cancer happen, and then how does it grow, how do you stop it.
This idea of a vaccine, a cancer vaccine, do you radiate that cancer? Do you remove that cancer? Do you remove the lymph nodes? Do you give chemotherapy? And crazy enough, over the last fifty years, I figured out that everything we're doing is not the word wrong, because that's a bad statement, a pejorative statement, is not enlightened, or a better way to say it.
Because everything we're doing is tipping the scales towards the suppressor cells. We're activating the suppressor cells. We're not activating the killing cells. And we can go into this conversation where I can explain that. So the key system which you just said is cancer is all about the immune system.
So if you activate the immunosuppression system, you get more cancer. So then the fundamental root cause is what's activating that immune system on the other way. Yes. And that's inflammation.
Speaker 0: Something is suppressing people's immune systems, including the poor 13 year old boy who died of pancreatic cancer. And the question is what is that? And maybe there are a lot of causes, but it is you know, we're not the first people to notice there's been an increase in scary cancers in populations that didn't used to get them. It's very obvious just from living here. And a lot of people have pointed to both COVID, the virus, and to the mRNA COVID vaccines as potential causes.
Do you think that they're related?
Speaker 1: The best way for me to answer that is to look at history. What we know about virally induced cancers is well established. We know that if you get hepatitis, you get liver cancer. Hepatitis is a virus infection. We know if you get human papillomavirus, HPV, you get cervical cancer.
Yes.
Speaker 0: Certain kinds of throat cancer are caused by viruses as well, If
Speaker 1: you get HIV, you get Kaposi sarcoma. Yes. So we call that oncogenic viruses in medical terms, meaning viruses that are induced carcinogenic, and the fundamental basis for that are threefold. The hallmarks of an oncogenic virus is one, must persist, and why? Because it continues to create inflammation, and why?
With inflammation you get suppression because your body's trying to suppress it. It must inhibit the thing called p 53 that's in your body to try and protect your body from not having cancer. And if it persists and causes inflammation and and inhibits p 53, it begins to have the hallmarks of an oncogenic virus. So then the question is, does COVID, whether it come from the vaccine, which is the spike protein vaccine, or from the infection, which is spike driven, that gets into every cell of our body because it goes through the
Speaker 0: Each cell of the body?
Speaker 1: It goes wherever you have this thing called the ACE two receptor, which is in the blood vessels. So wherever you have a blood vessel in your body, it's where it's gonna go. And if it has an h two receptor on that blood vessel, that's where it can go because that's the purpose of the spike protein, to penetrate, to hijack that h two receptor and get into their cells. So that's why it gets in the pancreas. That's why you have brain fog because it it disrupts the blood vessels of the brain and cause mitochondrial dysfunction.
That's why in the colon, which is a high in the GI tract is a high h two receptor. That's why pancreas is a h two receptor where that's why you people have in the in the heart, you have dysfunction. You you've seen young people have sudden heart attacks all of a sudden. You see young people with pancreatic cancer all of a sudden. You see young people's colon cancer all of sudden.
So is it by coincidence that post COVID infection, post COVID vaccine, are we seeing all these events where we know the spike protein goes there? I don't think so. I think it's not a coincidence. So the question is, can we prove is this what I call long COVID virus persisting? And the group at University of California San Francisco has now definitively proven that and published that in papers like Nature.
Can we also prove that once you have that persistence of that virus, does that COVID virus suppress the natural killer cell? Does the natural killer cell actually not only go to sleep, becomes what you call anergic? That's now been published. The natural killer cell has gone to sleep.
Speaker 0: So by your definition, we just solved the mystery right there?
Speaker 1: I I think so. I think this is the conversation I had with the
Speaker 0: Well, but wait. I mean, billions of people, literally billions of people had the COVID virus. Over a billion got the spike protein vaccine. So that's like we're talking, like, a huge percentage of the Earth's population, unless I'm missing something.
Speaker 1: Now you understand what keeps you awake at night. And it's kept me awake at night for two years, two and a half years. And that's why I sort of abandoned everything just to focus on how do we clear the virus. Because the answer is to clear the virus From the body. From the body.
The answer is to stop the inflammation because it's chronic inflammation.
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Speaker 1: Far, we found three years, four years.
Speaker 0: Is there any reason to believe it'll naturally go away?
Speaker 1: Not if your body's immune suppressed. So it's a circle. You ask what causes cancer because your body's immune suppressed. You have in your body nature's compound. And if the tumor or the infection or the inflammation suppresses it, you have to find a way to reactivate it and clear the virus.
It's just literally as simple as that. And that's the missing link that I think
Speaker 0: So it sounds like you're describing what could be like the worst human health crisis in history.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say that without saying it. It scares the pants off me because I think what we may be I don't think it's virus versus man now. You know? This is existential. I I think when I talk about the largest non infectious pandemic that we're afraid of, this is it.
Because while there was an increased rise in cancer in our country because of the idea of the toxins and everything else. This immunosuppression that has occurred now globally, and more importantly, the immunosuppression tied to inflammation, chronic inflammation, which is asymptomatic in sometimes and sometimes it's not. There's fifteen million Americans with long COVID. And they're not psychiatric when they have memory loss. They're not psychiatric when they have instantaneous heart attacks.
It's not psychiatric when you have an eight year old, 10 year old with colon cancer, a 13 year old pancreatic cancer. So the idea was, is there a solution? And this is what Well,
Speaker 0: I certainly hope so. Because you spent your life around scary diseases. Like, that's been your life. And if you're scared, then that's that's not a good sign.
Speaker 1: I'm scared but hopeful. I think it's important for me to have this conversation with you, not just that's why okay. I'll I'll share with you a conversation I had. I got invited by the CEO of the Henry Jackson Foundation to come to DC, I think October, November last year during the election phase, and just to have a conversation about about what I'm doing. And there he brought the leader from Walter Reed, the barter, the DOD, the NIH, the NIED all into that room and it was just me.
And I said, it is time. It is time for me to reveal to this learned group of leaders about what I'm scared about. And I spent, I think it was three hours, no slides, just me speaking alone on the stage and all of them in the audience. When I first started the conversation, the first sentence was, I think COVID is oncogenic. One of the members of the audience said that's nonsense.
I said, okay. Let me explain to you what we've been doing in our research. At the end of three hours, four hours, he says, you gotta publish this. This is so important. And I said, yes.
We are processing the publication, and then what came out was this paper that they biopsied the colon of young people temporarily when no COVID, two COVID, and showed the persistence of replicating viruses in the colon tissue two years out.
Speaker 0: Replicating COVID viruses? Replicating COVID
Speaker 1: viruses. Replicating. Asymptomatic replicating in the tissue, meaning there's inflammation. And when you have this inflammation, these neutrophils, now getting geeky again, plasticize flip from a protective neutrophil to a suppressive neutrophil. It's called an n two.
It's called a myelodrived suppressor cell. That's official name. So now you have suppression in your body, and it's no wonder that then converts into colon cancer. Wait.
Speaker 0: So is this true, do you think, for I mean, have you had COVID?
Speaker 1: No. Lucky man. Not lucky man. T cell man. I have a T cell in my body that protects me from the nucleic capsid.
Where do I get one? That trial was held up by the FDA and by Collins and Fauci.
Speaker 0: But you never got COVID because your protector cells were so strong?
Speaker 1: Not only a protector cells. If I do get COVID, the virus clears. You want to clear the virus.
Speaker 0: Get the hell
Speaker 1: out of my body. Get it out. Wait.
Speaker 0: I just wanna pause here. I know you're in the midst of a much larger story, but this is something I think everyone can understand. So I think I'm in good health. I am in very
Speaker 1: robust. Did you
Speaker 0: have COVID? I did. How many times? One. I never took the vaccine.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: But I got COVID. Knocked me right on my butt. It was a bad three days. Fine. But I don't understand you're older than I am.
How did you never get let's just I just wanna get very specific. Like, how do I mean, everyone on the planet got COVID.
Speaker 1: Okay. So let me let me give you some idea. Okay? One, because we understand the implications. My wife, Dutch Wood, also never got COVID because both of us.
So this is this is the story. We by by unfortunately, relate this as a painful thing to me because I relate to Kobe's death. It was during Kobe's time when he passed And at the funeral Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 0: who you were close to.
Speaker 1: Correct. Very close And at the funeral, at his funeral, all the people in the room, and it was I think November, and I turned to Gavin Newsom and I said, listen, this is one virus I'm worried about because I was studying this virus. You know, I understand HPV very well and I understand hepatitis. I said this is not a respiratory virus, this is a dangerous virus. So I went back and I shut down our organization so that we could actually do nothing else but COVID.
My entire team of hundreds of scientists on Zoom and everything else around the world, I said we must go after this virus with a vaccine that clears the virus. And the only way to clear the virus is to have what we call a t cell, an n k cell, the cells that kills cancer cells. And I wrote a paper with Carl Scudon that says COVID's like cancer and cancer's like COVID, meaning it's immune suppression that causes its spread. And it's immune suppression by the COVID virus that allows it to persist. So the only vaccine that's important is a t cell vaccine.
But that's why I'm telling you, virologists think about antibodies versus cellular therapy. It's foreign to them to have a vaccine that stimulates t cells. So I said, I understand that internally.
Speaker 0: It's a little weird since in twenty minutes you explained it to me, not particularly high IQ, not a scientist. I understand exactly what you're saying. Why isn't it obvious to virologists why isn't that, like, day one lesson in virology school that the T cells, the cells that protect you against all potential internal harm, they're the key?
Speaker 1: Because every vaccine so far is antibody based. Dogma. Dogma. Blind spots. Okay.
Speaker 2: Now we're cooking with guests. Now I understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 0: Dogma. Blind spots. Nicely put. Okay. I'm sorry.
I keep stepping in your story. So so you figure out
Speaker 1: You're not stepping because you you're allowing you're actually interpreting as pleasure to me because I don't know what I'm saying sometimes, whether it's gonna be so geeky, it gets lost. It's important for the audience for you to interpret. This is what Sanjay did for me in the sixty minutes. He he was brilliant in this. He spent two years with me, by the way, doing a little fifteen minute piece.
Wow. Yeah. We'd come to LA. We'd do this through shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot.
Speaker 0: Yeah. We just had breakfast.
Speaker 2: That's it. But can I okay?
Speaker 0: So you figure out early everyone's panicked about COVID. Okay? But your position is they're panicked for the wrong reasons. Correct. And, actually, maybe they're not quite as panicked as they should be because this virus could pave the way for cancer because it will suppress the immune system of the human body.
So you in November, you said? When did you?
Speaker 1: Right. So so by March 2020, we had the vaccine. March 2020. Because I had built a full GMP facility for cancer using the same vaccine that NCI had retested for HPV and for colon cancer, we think we'll see. So I'd create this this vaccine in which we would educate your body prior to COVID for the treatment of cancer to educate the t cells to recognize a cancer cell to kill it.
That's called a cancer vaccine, but which by the way is for the only vaccine in clinical trials today to prevent cancer that the NCI is running using our technology.
Speaker 0: Is there any way you can take the word vaccine out and call
Speaker 1: it something else? I'm calling it BioShield. Good.
Speaker 2: Because vaccine just scared the crap out
Speaker 1: of you. I know. But because it's not a vaccine in that vaccine in that general sense of an antibody based vaccine. It's your body's BioShield. So we'll announce it on the show.
We're gonna call this Project BioShield, which by the way, in 02/2004, there was a BioShield Act for national preparedness for against radiation against pandemic or infectious diseases. So we have the worst thing that can happen to you is to have us one dose of radiation will wipe out your NK cells and your t cells. That's how you die. Yes. That's how you get cancer.
It saps your immune system. It saps your immune system. So we wanted to create a BioShield. And the BioShield is to educate your body to have these t cells called memory t cells that go and hide in the bone marrow and come out when they need it, and kill that cell so it can never do damage. That's the concept, and it's not a foreign concept.
We published it with the National Cancer Institute. So by March 2020, I took all my our resources. Thank God we had the resources. So that's the sort of Was this your money? All my money.
Speaker 0: Okay. So I should just say, I alluded to it earlier, but you had a couple of companies making cancer drugs. You owned all
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, you own,
Speaker 0: I think, a % of the companies. You sold them for $10,000,000,000 or something. So but rather than buy a vineyard, you continued in your work. Is that a fair
Speaker 1: Very fair. You know, as I said to you over breakfast, I had no idea about stocks. So when the two companies were bought, and they were bought for the right reasons. So one company was American Pharmaceutical Partners, and we were making literally close to a million vials a day in The United States, manufacturing of a 50 different SKUs for every part of the hospital, and we're safe for heparin. So Fresenius said, we wanna buy you.
We said, great. And then I developed this molecule that was feeding the tumor that could actually activate the immune system to activate the macrophages called Abraxane, and Celgene said, we wanna buy you. I said, great. And the purpose for my selling them was not for the money, clearly it was for the money, but the purpose or the use of the money to pursue this dream of this astrophysics to find God's particle in your human body to activate your immune system. That was the purpose of this money, and that's all I've done with the money.
I spent about $3,000,000,000 of this money. I've not gotten 1p from the government, not even 1 dime. You're the only one. Yeah. And maybe that's the freedom and the liberation.
Allow me to say what I I can say now.
Speaker 0: That's right. So, again, I keep pulling this away because there's a lot here that's interesting, but
Speaker 1: how did you not get COVID? Okay. So I recognized that so Peter Marks and I had these conversations. So he he was head of CEBA, And I was in pinging him with the science because this is a biologic. And I was saying to Peter, listen, Peter, I need to show you that we need to create a t cell vaccine.
And he said, well, we don't do t cell vaccines. Everybody's doing the other vaccines, but great. Let's continue. The antibody vaccines. Antibody vaccines.
And then he called me and he said, we're gonna create warp speed. And he's a Star Trekkie and I'm a Star Trekkie and I love warp speed. I said, okay. We gotta do this in warp speed. Absolutely.
But the only way, Peter, you're do this in warp speed, you need we need as a country to have NIH and BARDA fund a trial where we take macaque monkeys, we give them the vaccine, and everybody should throw their vaccine in because I don't care whether it's not mine or theirs, whoever's vaccine, to clear the virus. The only way to do this experiment, you give the monkeys the vaccine, it's under your control, you have a hundred monkeys, everybody gets a set of vaccines, and then you infect the the the monkeys in the BSL three facility with a high dose of COVID, and then you see in their lungs and the tissue that there's no virus after seven days. Absolutely. That was warp speed. So I was one of eight of warp speed.
Then I get a call, Patrick, you dewarped. You or are there I said, test my vaccine anyway. They did a vaccine test at the NIH and BARDA. It cleared the virus as I predicted. There was no virus in the lungs and a big infection.
So I said, okay. I'm dewarped, and this was a Francis Collins scheme and Anthony Fauci's scheme and Monty Slawi's scheme. And we one day, we're gonna talk about the conversation I have with Monty Sloughi and what I've learned about Francis Collins in that in that event. And they were gonna go after this antibody vaccine, which is this mRNA vaccine with Spike. And I said this is too important.
I told my people, we're gonna build our own vaccine with our own money. I couldn't get enough material other than to do one batch, and we're gonna do a phase one trial. And we're gonna inject as many people that we can do in the phase one trial. I'm one of them. I injected myself.
Speaker 0: And your wife?
Speaker 1: And then and we're gonna measure. I won't talk about I don't wanna talk about the family. Oh, of course. And we're gonna measure my own blood. I drew my own blood and tested, and I have t cells to to nucleocapsid and to spike.
Which means if I were to get COVID, touch wood, the t cells now are memory t cells, would clear the virus. So we then tried, begged, begged because not for funding even, but for the plastic bags that were now restricted as you grow these things to Pfizer and Moderna, all the materials that you need in a biologic facility. Got zero. I've only got one batch, so I say I'm going to South Africa and inject these in patients with HIV because that's the biggest test you could have. You couldn't generate t cells in the patients with HIV and do this phase two and phase three trial in South Africa.
So we did that and then I called Peter and I said, Peter, I'm sorry, what were the results like? T cells. The people that interestingly enough, it doesn't say, just so you know, you have to differentiate does it actually prevent the penetration of the virus versus the load of the virus versus the clearance of the virus? These are three different things. So we think it prevents the penetration, but we don't know because as soon as it does penetrate, it would clear so you wouldn't even know or the t cell vaccine.
This is anecdotal, but some of the people who got our t cell vaccine, their family members got COVID. They didn't get it, obviously, the vaccine, and they didn't get COVID from a time while living with their family. The issue of clearing the virus in transmission was the key. So an antibody vaccine may reduce the viral load and therefore reduce death, which is a good thing that president Trump did. But the next generation of clearing the virus was what was needed, and both should have been developed simultaneously.
It wasn't. I'll share with you to this day. It's a mystery to me why. But the the opportunity to clear the virus was actually known, think, by by Collins and by Fauci that it did not clear the virus.
Speaker 0: The spike vaccines.
Speaker 1: The spike vaccine. The Pfizer Moderna vaccine. Antibody vaccine does not, and to this day, does not clear the virus.
Speaker 0: That seems like a big deal.
Speaker 1: Well, what we talked about. If you don't clear the virus and you have pieces of the virus in there, spike, whether from the infection or from the vaccine, and now you get another infection, now the virus brings along this nucleic capsid. Now it reconjoins and replicates again in these what they call privileged sites. Two years later, it's what we're seeing. Now we're back to persistence That's now published just months ago, and this is what I shared with the NIH secretly four months ago.
And persistence, asymptomatic persistence but with inflammation and reduction of p 53 and immunosuppression are all the hallmarks and recipes for cancer. And coming back to your first question is why are we seeing an increase in young people? I think all of the above. The toxins, the history, the red dye, the PFAS,
Speaker 0: the COVID, all of the above. Does both COVID and the COVID vaccine lower over time the human immune system?
Speaker 1: The vaccine itself upregulates temporarily the antibodies. But if the vaccine the the spike protein breaks off and the the RNA or DNA goes into the cells whether from infection or the vaccine, that's where the controversy is. Right? It could be both. And the vaccine doesn't clear the virus.
That's the key. It doesn't clear the virus.
Speaker 0: And that's why we were told, of course, you take the virus, and then you can't get COVID or transmit it, but neither one turned out to be true. Demonstrably untrue. I mean
Speaker 1: Well, it's not only demonstrably untrue. It was knowingly untrue. That's what's bad about
Speaker 0: It would seem like that's criminal, actually. I mean, if I tell you that, you know, this car gets 40 miles to the gallon and instead it blows up, well,
Speaker 2: know, that's a crime.
Speaker 0: You can't sell anything under false pretenses. That's a crime. I don't see how this is not a crime, but
Speaker 1: Well, as you said of a breakfast, it's it's not a conspiracy if it's true. I
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We eat it and vouch for it. So and you know that they knew. You've established for a fact that the developers of this and our public health authorities knew that the COVID vax would neither prevent infection nor transmission. Yes.
Speaker 1: And worse, I think, you know, it's not well known that during the first president Trump election, he offered me a position. And I turned it down because I said to him, I really could help him from outside in better than and I had too much to do. I really should was working on this, thank God, working on this potential cure for cancer as well as clearing the virus with COVID. This this what I call the missing link, we can talk about, this activator of the unnatural killer cells, this BioShield. And we have this BioShield now.
So it was the right decision for me not to go into the government during that time and to stay stay out. This was 1617. Correct. But worse, I've since discovered, not by my inquiry, but it's been revealed to me emails about Francis Collins and some politicians work hard to prevent me from even joining becoming head of NIH. And I think that was the motivation all the way downstream that we asked, okay, so what happened to this vaccine?
So I called the FDA and said, okay, I can't do a randomized placebo controlled trial now because you got Pfizer's Moderna vaccines all over the place, so let me be the booster. And Peter Marks, to his credit, was the one who said, absolutely. Peter Marks, to his credit, was the one who says, I'm worried about this COVID vaccine and this long COVID. I want to study the effects of this vaccine. Peter Walksworth then said to me, Patrick, fine.
Go ahead. I injected the first three patients as a booster. I get the call from the FDA to say, you have to stop. I said, why? To this day, they never explained to me it wasn't Peter.
It was people around Peter said, you must stop. So we stopped. And there was nothing more we could do anyway because we didn't have any of the resources, the money, the supplies to complete a phase three.
Speaker 0: So the government has a monopoly on some of the materials that you need to do this kind of testing in a bio lab. Is that is that correct?
Speaker 1: Correct. But now we're into Biden era. So now we're the Biden era that said, I must stop. This is 2020 now. No.
No. Beyond It it was yeah. It was during the Biden era. And I think there there was this sadly, I'm I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but now I've come to realize it truly was a deep state inside there that had a motivation beyond it's sad to say, it's the most devastating to say, beyond public health. And I know I just tweeted recently of how so few people could hurt so many.
And that's why when I tweeted about finally we have the right person in HHS with Bobby Kennedy, we'll take this on. And that we have doctors that will be like Marty Makary, who I don't know, but I do know he's a surgeon who can understand and touch and feel what it means to be there on behalf of the patient. And my support for that I think we have a chance now to completely turn this around in this next few
Speaker 0: I think this last election was in part about that. I think the national realization that COVID was there was something very dark there. It wasn't just a virus that happened upon us. Naturally, that there was there was there was a lot of evil bound up in it. But just to back up a second, you said you have learned from watching COVID that a few people can hurt so many.
Who are those people?
Speaker 1: I think the main culprit really sitting there was Collins. Francis Collins. Francis Collins. And he controlled I mean, I had shared with president Trump that Francis Collins should not be the NIH director. He offered me a job.
Peter Thiel nominated me. And I've since found emails of Francis Collins sending an email to a politician that alarm bells, alarm bells, Peter Thiel has nominated Patrick Soon, shown we have to find a way to stop it. Why? To this day, power, greed, political need. He did the same thing with Craig Venter.
I remember during Clinton's time with the Human Genome Project where Craig Venter invented the sequencing machine for tens of millions of dollars and he was spending billions of dollars doing nothing but wanted the credit. I I I think what happens to you when you get into into Washington, the ego, greed, and power changes your mindset. So I can't give motivation to that. All I can tell you is when I saw that email, I was devastated that somebody would actually go to that extent and then send that same email to the CEO of Bio, which is all big pharma. And that CEO of Bio said, let's go to Google search to find some dirt on him.
Speaker 0: Dirt on you, on me?
Speaker 1: To stop me from being nominated to be head of NIH or whatever. Let's Google him to stop him? Let's Google to find some dirt, some bad stuff, negative research, whatever they want to find. They they probably couldn't find any dirt on me, but that was the interchange between them
Speaker 0: on email. But the funny thing is you made a product and by by the way, just a clarification of terms. My understanding was a vaccine was administered to a healthy person to prevent him from getting the disease. You're describing a product, the one that you made, that you can inject into an infected person and it cures the infection. That sounds more like a conventional medicine than
Speaker 1: a vaccine. It's a therapeutic. A therapeutic. Correct. So, you know, I use the word vaccine because that's what they understood.
You know, it's it's dogma and terminology.
Speaker 0: Right. But you're but you're giving this to people who have COVID, who have HIV.
Speaker 1: Well, I wanna give it to people who don't have COVID so we can get COVID, but then I wanna give I am now giving to patients with HIV. I'm giving to people with HPV. I'm giving it to people who are getting cancer and have cancer. And more importantly, I there's one in two hundred and eighty Americans. One in two hundred and eighty Americans have this thing called Lynch syndrome.
What Lynch syndrome is is a genetic predisposition of an eighty percent increase of colon cancer, ovarian cancer, breast cancer. It's a genetic predisposition where your cells don't repair themselves. Yes.
Speaker 0: I lost a friend to this. Yes.
Speaker 1: We are in clinical trials for the BioShield for patients with Lynch syndrome. We now have a hundred patients enrolled already, giving them this BioShield that'll prevent cancer. So it's one of the first trials of prevention of cancer, rigor than treatment of cancer. Then this drug, this BioShield, keep in mind, I don't wanna call it a vaccine, has just gotten approved in 2024 for bladder cancer. We now have people who failed everything, who would have their bladder removed.
Think about that. Your bladder removed, the nine percent mortality just from the surgery alone, where we've given them this BioShield, that's all they got is a subcutaneous injection or sorry, into the bladder. And they are now free of disease, still complete remission, nine years out. Alive today. We can go talk to them.
Published. We have patients with metastatic pancreatic cancer we just published. Bursary of disease, five years out. Senator Reid, who came to see me after having failed all other treatment with his pancreatic cancer spread to his liver, came to see me and he said to me, Patrick, I'm here, but I checked with Francis Collins who said don't go. I said, well, Senator Reid, it's your choice is I'm coming.
And we gave him the therapy. And his c a 19 went down to normal, He lived for two two years free of disease. He actually was very active. We had a patient with Merkel cell carcinoma, which is a terrible disease of failed everything. He came into our clinic, complete response.
Nine years out, he died of other causes. The reason I met Robert Robert Junior, I never I've not known him for about four months, is I called Bobby Shriver. His cousin? His cousin. And the reason I knew Bobby Shriver because Bobby called me seven years prior to that saying, Patrick, I'm on the city council of Santa Monica and the mayor of Santa Monica has this terrible tumor in his head and neck.
It's ulcerating under his chin, ulcerating through his jaw and usually lay in Cedars Sinai. He said, he's got two weeks to live. He's got to go to hospice. Can you see him? I said, absolutely, Bobby.
I think he needs our natural killer cells. He needs our BioShield. So I brought him to our clinic, we have in Los Angeles in El Segundo. The nurses broke into tears. The nurses says, Patrick, what are you doing?
UCLA said he has to go to hospice. You should give this man I said, no. You don't understand. We can dynamically activate this, and this is always an outpatient. We got him into complete remission.
Complete remission. Is
Speaker 0: still alive?
Speaker 1: So it healed and this melted the tumor. He went home because it was exposed, a little bleed happened in the blood vessel. His family took him to Saint John's, and then they called me frantically and says, the doctor says do not resuscitate. I said, what? Call let me speak to that doctor.
He said, well, it's bleeding and it's got this thing is is I think he's it was in his late seventies, early eighties. I said, please clip it. It's complete response and we're gonna do a flap to cover that. He did. We did the flap.
He lived for two years, eat, was able to eat. So when I called Bobby and I said, Bobby, you remember what we did? He said, absolutely, Patrick. A lot of people have asked me to introduce to to Robert. You know, Robert and I don't speak very much.
We've had an argument about about about his ideas, and I said, I understand, but I'm gonna give you a number to to to to to Robert to Bobby Kennedy, and he'll call you. Bobby called me in ten minutes and I said, Bobby, I'd like to introduce myself. He said, Patrick, can I meet with you? I said, please. And he came to meet with me at my home and we had this long conversation and I realized, I've just I watched your your show with him.
Here's what he is, an authentic man with a sense of purpose, conviction, courage. He says what he really believes. Sometimes it may be wrong, sometimes it may be right, but he says what he believes. And I really believed, oh my god, here's somebody who would have the courage to take on the world and ask the questions. Dennis, I'm gonna support you.
And that's what happened. That's how I got to know him.
Speaker 0: Amazing. He was dismissed by no. Not just dismissed. Attacked and vilified by a lot of people in the medical establishment, I would say, everybody. Why were you willing to listen to him?
Speaker 1: Because what he's saying is exactly what I was saying. And I I'm sort of attacked by these same people because of the dogma that's out there. So let me give you this exam. I said, Bobby, and I shared with him this story about Hope Hicks. I said that you you you probably just walked out to the office and I walked in in 02/2016 in 02/2017.
I said, listen. You people think of you as saying you shouldn't have a polio vaccine. You that you're an anti vaccinator. What you really are saying, you're worried about the excipients inside the vaccine. So About the what?
The So that's a technical the the materials that that go in with the vaccine. Yes. The mercury, etcetera. With the mercury, etcetera. So I understand there's a polio vaccine.
There's one, two, three, four polio vaccines that have now been manufactured. And now that all of sudden there's a new polio vaccine that's manufactured in which we have cow's serum, calf serum, inside that vaccine. And I know and you know, everybody knows, and The UK knows, you can get prion disease from this cough serum because you can't measure that. So that got approved in four days with just because of safety, the way dogma is happening. But there's other polio vaccines, So you can take the other polio vaccines, but don't take that one just like I was telling you about maybe I was telling you about propofol story over breakfast.
And you should explain it that way, that you want it just to be examined. And he said, exactly. I said, okay. Not only did I get him, he is asking the right questions, and people are scared to ask these questions because of his perverse incentives. And that was what bothered me.
Speaker 0: But in science, shouldn't any question be allowed? Exactly.
Speaker 1: So when I tweeted, I said he knows more science than most doctors. He's much of a It's a good
Speaker 0: thing you're rich because you'd be out of a job tweeting stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But it is. Right? And and and that's what's a blessing, I think. You know, live the American dream, and that's why you said, okay. I made all this money.
The money is for the purpose of me able to do this. I was very concerned about being too loud about it because if this deep state would hold up the approval, and they did, by the way, they put us into complete response letter. I got a thousand requests for information. The most my submission was close to 700,000 pages in order to get this thing through. 700,000?
Speaker 0: It's like The US tax code.
Speaker 1: This drug has been in trials now for eight years. Two thousand fifteen.
Speaker 0: How long was the Pfizer mRNA COVID vaccine in trials?
Speaker 1: Months. A month. Even. So that's why I'm trying to say, you know this when
Speaker 0: you I know which one I'm taking.
Speaker 1: You know, when you would talk about the the user fees, so we thought that the user fees was going to accelerate the approval where the FDA gets user fees from pharma. It turns out that the big pharma user fees are so large, it pays for the salary for all these reviewers. So now the biotech companies, the young biotech companies are throttled. So the big pharma that does just this incremental little dots that just follow the revenue, this checkpoints, multi billion dollar. Merck's, what, 20,000,000,000, 30 billion on revenue.
Bristol Myers follows it. AstraZeneca follows it. Roche follows it. There's no they're all the same, but it's all about incremental sameness and follow the dollar. But the innovation is really at this young biotech companies that are throttled.
This is what needs to be changed by the FDA today. They need a complete revamp where people with skill sets and the skill sets of the modern science, not the old drugs, have to be in place to understand what's at stake here.
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Speaker 0: Well, you have to take the conflicts out too. I mean, if a reviewer is paid by the company whose drugs he's reviewing, that's, like, such an obvious conflict in no other world would that be acceptable.
Speaker 1: Not only wouldn't it be acceptable if then that reviewer has also the role to block an innovator. It gets worse. Right? Again, this
Speaker 0: just seems like crime to me. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. If this were going on in another country for outside The United States and I'm an American, so I give United States every benefit of every doubt. It takes me forever to realize something's corrupt because it's America.
It's not corrupt. But if this were happening, I would just name the country, China, South Africa. You know, I'd be like, well, that's the most corrupt thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly the fear I have now. The Chinese don't have this restriction, and their innovation is now outstripping us. Think about that. I've always said America's lead in health care and biomedical innovation is the best in the world, and if we could use biomedical innovation as foreign policy for Africa and to Asia and to India to bring that to the rest of the world, that's how we lead. I now read the papers, and the Chinese science is now outstripping us.
Look what happened to AstraZeneca just last week. They just spent $2,000,000,000 investing in China now. That's a tragedy for us.
Speaker 0: Not for manufacturing? For innovation.
Speaker 1: Oh, so that's not good. Not good.
Speaker 0: Because the idea was we offshore all the manufacturing, but we the ideas generate here.
Speaker 1: So AstraZeneca's an English company. So what's what I'm saying is the fundamental problem, I think, lies at the FDA and even the NIH. So the change that Bobby's bringing in with Jay now being head of NIH and Marty being head of FDA and Bobby himself having the courage to stand up to talk both against the food industrial complex and the pharma complex. Take on the Mercs of the world and the Fisis of the world. I think we have maybe an opportunity, what I call a period of enlightenment.
And then really, I'm all about enlightenment. And if you can look at the Sanjay piece, we are there now. So I wanna actually send
Speaker 3: Can I stop and ask
Speaker 0: you question though? So your position is that cancer, but not just cancer, all kinds of illnesses are caused by weakened immune system and inflammation.
Speaker 1: It's all about the immune system. Your body functions, you live or you die by the immune system. The senescent cells aging is the immune system. The cells in your body that allow you to go to 100 years old, 120 years old is based on the activity and the function of the immune system, because the immune system, what's regulating your healthy cells.
Speaker 0: Can we just go through I know this is not patentable. This is not your business, but it's what are some of the obvious things a person can do to strengthen his immune system?
Speaker 1: So you ask what activates the natural killer cells? So it is it your it's like you know when you look at the leaf and you talk about apoptosis and the leaf actually sits and goes brown and and and and it changes, then goes back up. So all of human nature, all of nature is filled with this biology of this balance. So you have you're a product of nature. I mean, literally, you're a product of when you were a tadpole in a fish as we came out.
So this cell is evolved since the Cambrian age. Think about that. This cell, this natural killer cell in your body. I published my first article in natural killer cell in 1990. This cell was only discovered in nineteen seventies.
Think about that. And we've ignored that cell. This is what I call the missing link. I'm gonna announce that at the American Urology Conference in Las Vegas in the end of end of this month. We have discovered I've not discovered the missing link.
We've discovered the awareness of this missing link and how to activate this missing link. So the idea is to activate the natural killer cell. It has 30,000 receptors on this cell. What this natural killer cell does? It replenishes itself with sleep, so sleep is important.
It replenishes itself with light, with sunlight. And I believe there's a certain wavelength, the red wavelength in the sunlight that it actually requires for it to be stimulated.
Speaker 0: So this is why people get sicker in the winter.
Speaker 1: Exactly. That's why Seattle has the highest suicide rate. Think about that. Right? So these things and if you look at the places like Norway and Sweden where there's very little sun, Finland.
So nature's all about light, sunlight. So that's why I I think this is I
Speaker 0: like obvious observation. Nature's all about sunlight, of course. Plants don't grow without sunlight.
Speaker 1: Right. And at the end of the day, we we either about neutrons, photons, and electrons. That's what that's what we are. We as a human being is nothing else but a battery and an ingate when you think about that. Right?
So we have a bunch of electrons and neutrons and charges that's floating through us that actually interact. And that's how I think of of the human body. That's why I said I think of it as an astrophysicist. It's crazy, but that's how my mind works.
Speaker 0: So sleep, getting sunlight.
Speaker 1: And and and having food that doesn't immunosuppress. Your biome, the bacteria in your body sends out materials that actually will immunosuppress or activate.
Speaker 0: What are the immunosuppressive foods?
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think most natural foods are fine. It's the toxins in the food, exactly what I said, the excipients. So when you talk about red dye, the processed foods, all this unnatural processed stuff ultimately cause inflammation. Now when it gets back to this plasticity of inflammation, inflammation causes immunosuppression because it causes all these cells to flip from the killer state to the suppressor state. That's why we said we have this dichotomy of is the cat alive, is the cat dead.
Speaker 0: You see it you see it too in the elderly. You know, it's why an infection or a, you know, a diabetic foot infection can lead to a systemic infection and kill the person. Correct. Right.
Speaker 1: That's why, you know, when this guy discovered that h pylori causes gastric ulcer, they said, you're nuts. It's acid.
Speaker 0: I remember that so well.
Speaker 1: So well. So now when you think about that, so that's why I'm just this dogma.
Speaker 0: But that's a consensus now. Right? Acid does not cause ulcers.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a cause and effect. So h pylori causes the the the inflammation, and then the acid that's naturally in
Speaker 0: your stomach activates it. But it's not the core cause.
Speaker 1: Correct. Correct. Correct. But it's all about dogma. That's why I call this a vaccine, but it's a BioShield.
So So you have to fight dogma. Part of the problem is you're fighting. So I will ask you I wanted to ask us to do an experiment, I'm all for it, where we pick up the phone, call any random oncologist, not to shame them, primary care physician, pick up the phone, and said, you do a CBC, correct? Yes.
Speaker 0: Can you define what a CBC is?
Speaker 1: A complete blood count. Just so you take a blood and you look for
Speaker 0: Yeah. The blood screen that everyone has.
Speaker 1: Blood screen. Yeah. For whether you're anemic or not anemic. Yeah. People understand that.
Right? Red blood cells. And you see these red blood cells. And you give chemotherapy and radiation and you ask, what do you look for? Well, we look to see if you're anemic so we can give you this drug that Amgen makes called Epogen.
We look to see whether your platelets have gone down, so we can give you a platelet transfusion. We look to see whether your neutrophils have gone down so that you don't get an infection called neutropenic fever, so we give you this drug Neupogen. Well, the problem is does red blood cells cure cancer? No. Does platelets cure cancer?
No. Does neutrophils kill cancer? No. What kills cancer? The natural killer cells and t cells.
So in that CBC, there's a thing called the lymphocytes. Correct? Do you look at that? No. The only cell that is important that kills cancer, ninety nine point nine percent of oncologists will say, we don't pay any attention to that.
Speaker 0: That that is term it, that does seem mass backwards. But why why if you're not not to, you know, attack oncologist, but if you're fighting cancer, why do you ignore the one cell that fights cancer?
Speaker 1: I'd love that's the experiment I want to
Speaker 2: see. And
Speaker 0: and That's a little mysterious. Am I missing something?
Speaker 1: That's exactly. That's the missing link. The final frontier, the e equals m c squared, the God's equation. That is the key element in your body that we've been missing for fifty years. For fifty years.
But it's even worse than that. Those missing link we've actually destroyed with chemotherapy. We've destroyed with radiotherapy and we've destroyed with checkpoint inhibitors. We've destroyed with steroids. Guess what we give to patients?
Chemotherapy, radiotherapy, steroids, and checkpoints. Am I missing something?
Speaker 0: I don't know anything about this. You know? I was a Russian studies major. But I have no just because I'm 55, I know a lot of cancer patients. I have always been skeptical that the protocol is effective based on so what I have noticed is those therapies seem to beat back the cancer in short term.
But then so often, you watch it come roaring back. You know, I'm in remission, and then wham, you just get hit by a wave of cancer and eliminated.
Speaker 1: So if you see my writings, I have written so many times, you win the battle and you lose the war.
Speaker 0: So this is not I'm not imagining this phenomenon.
Speaker 1: You're not imagining it. You win the battle and you lose the war. The reason you win the battle is because you see this little blip of a response with chemotherapy, and then the moment you stop, or not even, you can, you've actually now killed the cells that are there to protect you, you've upregulated these suppressor cells, and you get metastasis, and you say, oops, sorry. You know, I have to go to hospice. Think about that.
That's what we've been doing for fifty years. That's the dogma that I'm fighting.
Speaker 0: So what okay. So let's just say I leave here and I'm diagnosed with, you know, a serious life threatening form of cancer, what would you recommend I do next?
Speaker 1: So this is where you play chess and don't play checkers. This is where you play Go, where you say, okay, what is the cancer doing first? Well, guess what? The cancer is not stupid, so it's figured out a way to hide from these killer cells. So the first thing you have to do is you have to expose the receptors on the cancers of the killer cells could recognize that.
So even in the presence of chemotherapy, you don't use chemotherapy to kill the tumor. You use a tiny dose of chemotherapy just to stress the patient, the the cancer, and the cancer's, oh my god, something's coming at me and it starts exposing itself. So you go from high to expose. So you use a chemotherapy at a low dose called low metronomic dose to use it as what I call an immunomodulator. Importantly Wait.
Wait.
Speaker 0: I was asking. You're describing cancer as almost like an autonomous entity that has a a goal, a will to destroy the human body.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 0: But that's I mean, you're describing like a It's a machine. But with with intent and kind of clever behavior, it hides, Like, what? You're describing like some force some, like, foreign entity in the body that's trying to kill the body.
Speaker 1: It is. It's like a virus.
Speaker 0: But how how can a tumor know to hide?
Speaker 1: Because it has genomic sequencing in there that actually blocks the expression. So
Speaker 0: That just sounds diabolical.
Speaker 1: It is diabolical. That's why I spent fifty years trying to understand. It's not a human brain. It's biology and how biology can mutate, actually, your body's a beautiful thing. I mean, it's an exquisite thing.
So it has to have this thing called epigenetics. So the it has the genomic sequencing that says, I'm not gonna express this. So we can now stress that and block the the blocker, and it now expresses something on its surface that our t cells can recognize. So that's the first step. Smoke it out.
Smoke it out. But your body has mechanisms to smoke it out. It gets even more complicated. Your body has a thing where you can induce what you call DAMPs, which is damage associated molecular patterns, but forget that. It's a way of actually smoking it out so now your t cells can recognize it.
Okay. So now you've done step one. That's just step one. That's one molecule. So this is why I think the FDA needs to understand we're fighting a war where you need battlefield awareness all simultaneously, where you have to orchestrate your marines, your army, your navy, your air force all in the right place so that you can use the tumor in your body to act as the weapon as the vaccine.
Because a tumor has molecules that is foreign to the rest of your body, and if you educate your t cells to recognize those molecules that is foreign to the rest of your body, that t cell can remember. Now you have a memory t cell. So for the first time in 2024, in our package insert, we have a molecule called the BioShield now, I'll call it the BioShield, that can activate the natural killer cell, activate the killer T cell, and drive memory T cells. We now have bladder cancer patients who would have lost their bladder in complete remission for nine years and still alive.
Speaker 0: And so the protocol is you low dose, you administer low dose chemo to identify where the tumor is. You smoke it out. You smoke it out.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you need to have the natural killer cells and T cells ready. So you give them the BioShield that upregulates and stimulates your natural killer cells and t cells.
Speaker 0: What about radiation? Does that play a role?
Speaker 1: That'll kill your natural killer cells and t cells. So no. Unless, and this is Ganzar, unless. Today the radiation is what they call seventy gigabits huge doses, unless you give a tiny little dose just to the tumor, nowhere else, to smoke it out. So you use radiation in a very different way called SBRT, a low dose
Speaker 0: To identify rather than destroy.
Speaker 1: To expose rather suppose. So the algorithm is expose, from hide to expose. The next algorithm is activate and proliferate your NK cells.
Speaker 0: And that's with the subcutaneous injection.
Speaker 1: The next algorithm is to educate your t cells with a vaccine that you anticipate that it's going to be exposed. So you now have educated t cells ready. So you've got educated t cells, you've got NK cells, and the next thing is to activate your macrophages so they become killer macrophages, and the next step is to suppress the suppressors. You do that all simultaneously.
Speaker 0: How much human suffering is involved in this? There's a lot in a conventional course of cancer therapy.
Speaker 1: All as an outpatient. We've done hundreds of patients now.
Speaker 0: So you're not so someone taking this course is not going to is he gonna lose his hair or
Speaker 1: throw up? All as an outpatient. No. What's even more exciting
Speaker 0: Because that matters for cancer patients. I mean, it's hard to be a cancer patient. It's horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But we're now seeing patients now in complete remission. More importantly, I wanna treat patients before they need surgery. So I can use the tumor itself in the body as the vaccine to educate the body and the t cells all about that tumor. What's even more exciting now, we can take blood from you, one pint, and extract the natural killer cell and the t cell and grow billions and store it in cryopreservation just like you do, I don't know, from cord blood.
We now have the ability to grow these natural killer cells and give it to anybody. So I hope we said for the first time we could become the American Red Cross of cancer, our country, and use these innovations as foreign policy.
Speaker 0: So could looking back, do you think it was unwise to require the population to get the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine?
Speaker 1: It depends on the time. I think it's unwise to keep on giving this nonsense. I shouldn't say that. I should be careful when I call it nonsense. The idea of agreeing an antibody vaccine and then creating another antibody vaccine and another antibody vaccine that chases your tail, I don't know what that's doing, those spike proteins.
Speaker 0: It's not ridding your body of COVID, though.
Speaker 1: It's it's not. Is it is it creating even more variants in your body? I don't know. But Is that possible? I I see the the the the idea, and I'm such a scientist, I need to actually go and actually pull out these variants and sequencing them.
That's what we do now.
Speaker 3: But is
Speaker 0: it theoretically possible?
Speaker 1: It's theoretically possible.
Speaker 0: Could there be any change to a person's DNA from taking this?
Speaker 1: Well, that's what this does.
Speaker 0: It's what the mRNA vaccines do.
Speaker 1: Correct. It converts into DNA, and it converts in replicating, and that's what it does, and it it replicates an RNA virus. It becomes it's the virus. Someone who's clearly you've
Speaker 0: made reference to it a couple times, interested in evolution. To change the DNA of a species is to change the species over time.
Speaker 1: No. I don't think it integrates. My concern is that this virus is all about itself. It
Speaker 0: Very selfish virus.
Speaker 1: Selfish virus. In fact, the fact that it's now less deadly is in the virus's interest. The virus doesn't wanna kill you because you are the incubator. Think about that. The virus wants you alive.
Speaker 0: You're you're speaking in a way that suggests intent and forethought.
Speaker 1: It's it's biology. It's evolution. Everything is evolution. It was the intent to go from a tadpole to to human being.
Speaker 0: I don't know. But to to consider the possibility you have something or the certainty that you have something within your body that is acting against your body's interest on purpose.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because it needs you to be the incubator. So, you know, the the the the the veracity when it when it when it was so man made. So you know viral evolution, it what you call affinity maturation, it matures itself so that it can be more infective. That's one thing it tries to do as a virus.
I mean, these viruses are living organisms. When I say living, they don't have brains or anything else, but they have machinery that are very it's very sophisticated. They have what do you call promoters and etcetera. Why would you make something like that on purpose? Well well, there are viruses in nature Of course.
Theoretically will go through what you call maturation that normally do not infect you. They're not species. They're species specific. Exactly. But why would you then change that?
And that's what this, you know, gain of function study was so dangerous. That's why it was prohibited.
Speaker 0: It's so self evidently evil to even play with something like that with the potential consequences, which we're now seeing, 13 year olds getting pancreatic cancer. Like, how could anyone do that, and why aren't those people imprisoned?
Speaker 1: Well, it was banned. Right?
Speaker 0: It was banned in The United States.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Hence, the Wuhan lab partnership.
Speaker 1: Well, and so we subverted it. Now you talk about, you know, why so so few people go to home home so many. How they got around that is for the investigators to find out.
Speaker 0: But I mean, you're someone who's created cancer drugs, who spent a lot of his life in a lab. That's why you're a billionaire. So you know a lot about this topic, obviously. And it's it's clear to you that that's that's just too dangerous to be doing that. Right?
Yes. To take animal viruses and make them
Speaker 1: You can't control it. I mean, because you've done affinity maturation that would have taken tens of maybe millions of years. In that fusion protein, they created this fusion protein and created and then then they created this vaccine, I think I think Bonnie Graham was the part with Collins and everything else, that was so proud to create this RBD and make it stable. Think about it. The spearhead, the tip of the spear that goes into your cell, we're gonna make it stable.
That's why this vaccine was produced. This was the mRNA vaccine was produced. So you've taken a virus that has now gone from bats to man only because I think the skin function work. You then create a vaccine by taking the spearhead of this virus that is now being created to get into you and make it the spearhead even more stable and put it on the vaccine and says, here we go.
Speaker 0: This seems super crazy. So just from the perspective of a of a layman again, if I've never had COVID and I get the m r a you know, if I get the Pfizer vaccine, mRNA vaccine, if I got it three years ago, can you detect COVID in my body now? Possibly. See, that's like that's just crazy town.
Speaker 1: Look. I know of a I won't name her, but she was a very senior person at the FDA, and she just got the vaccine. That's it. And within weeks, she got brain fog, loss of memory. So there's clear evidence that sometimes the vaccine's effect is is the cause and sometimes the the virus is the cause.
So that's what I'm saying. It's Yes. But it's not it's not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 0: I understand. And it's and it's
Speaker 1: But it's all about the spike.
Speaker 0: But it's but the idea that you would be introducing the COVID virus into a body that was not infected by the COVID virus is like Right.
Speaker 1: You went after the wrong protein, basically. I've been I've been begging them to go after the nuclear capsid protein because the nuclear capsid protein, which is in the core of the of the of the virus, is not the tip of the spear. Right. And if you have a t cell, it lasts for seventeen years. We know that from previous COVID infections.
Yes. But they refused to do it.
Speaker 0: This seems like a human tragedy at, like, an unimaginable scale.
Speaker 1: Completely. It devastates me.
Speaker 0: Well, that's incredibly bracing. And I think you're one of the very few people I've ever met who has the absolute authority to speak on this. And yet you you've you've not been encouraged to speak about it, it sounds like. I've been not been what? Encouraged to speak about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because I'm not a political person, and I have this bigger picture that we have to find a solution, not just for COVID, but for cancer. And the irony is this BioShield works for both. And the only because they're connected, sounds like. Completely connected.
And the only chance we have now, because I had no idea that the political deep state was so powerful and so vicious and so egotistical that they would stop good science. So now I'm out there speaking because the drug got approved. But that's not enough just for bladder cancer. It has the same treatment effect for pancreatic cancer, lung cancer, triple negative breast cancer. It is the only molecule for fifty years that upregulates these killer cells, period, the missing link.
Well, you never got COVID, so that's you really never got COVID? Never got COVID.
Speaker 0: How many people do you know who didn't get COVID? Well The president the United States had COVID, like, four times.
Speaker 1: So if you did get COVID, there's three antigens in the virus. There's a spike, there's a nucleocapsid and there's a thing called the m protein, m. And if you have when you do your blood test, you can see if you have the m protein. If you have the m protein in your antibody or t cell or antibody to the m protein, that means it came from the from the virus. If you have no m protein, it came from somewhere else.
It could come from the vaccine. I have no m protein, and I have t cells to n, and I
Speaker 0: have t cells to s. So you could basically lick a park bench and not get sick.
Speaker 1: No. It doesn't exactly. So now you need to differentiate and not conflate the ability of the virus to infect. It could still infect me, but my body has the protection, the BioShield to clear it immediately within seven days. Clear it.
Is this a lifelong protection? Well, based on the science of the what they call MERS one where it was Yes. Years is the is is protection. That was the original coronavirus outbreak. Correct.
Seventeen years as nuclear t cells is out there. So we
Speaker 0: I'll take that. I'll take seventeen.
Speaker 1: Exactly. And you can get a booster. Now what we're working on is a universal COVID virus vaccine for all coronaviruses because it's in. So what we did oh, that's a good segue to that. So during my genomic sequencing, was building the whole machine learning supercomputing network, I ran the national lambda rail for the GARDS particle, and I built supercomputers and AI way before AI was, and I presented the AI model to president Obama, believe not in that one pager for health care.
So our supercomputer, we combined ourselves with Microsoft so that we had the largest GPU cloud during COVID. And we're able then to actually look at the infectivity of every species, every variant of COVID with every human type. There's a thing called HLA. So that we could actually look at how the virus would change and avoid the t cells. The only thing that it could never do was change the nucleocapsid and never could void the t cells.
We made that software public. It is still public and published it so that anybody could test based on your HLA, your HLA, and my HLA type would be slightly different. There's hundreds and thousands of HLA types and know whether this sequence, if you had that sequence in your body, would be protective. Through that, we are developing what we call a universal COVID vaccine, BioShield t cell vaccine, and we have it. But how do you do it?
You know? So one of my thoughts was just to give it away to somebody. I actually offered to give it away to Regeneron and to Amgen way back, but they were too busy. Everybody was too busy during the COVID time. So one of the ideas now was for me to actually go to the Serum Institute in India and say, yeah, please go go build this and make this available to the world.
So there's just so much we could do as an organization. We're a tiny little biotech company relative to the Merck and the Pfizer's. But that's what my goal is. My personal goal is when you say I'm still doing it and I don't have a vineyard, the the resources that was given to me, it was like God's gift, I believe, that allowed me to do this. So, you know, we have hundreds of employees, have 40 acres of land in Los Angeles.
The other tragedy was I took over this facility in Dunkirk that New York State had put $200,000,000 in, completely empty, brand new, amazing facility for national preparedness, and I called Chuck Schumer to help me make that available for the country. Nothing. It's still sitting there, available for the country as a national preparedness manufacturing site in Dunkirk, New York, for which we put $50,000,000 in, but there's no employees in there right now. Nothing. That's crazy.
It is really ridiculous, right, without leadership, without skill sets in leadership, and without informed leadership how we as a country could go down the wrong path. And I'm so hopeful that these next four years could change that.
Speaker 0: So this has been an amazing story. You're obviously very famous in the medical research world and controversial, but I'm I'm I'm sold on what you said. So everything that you've done is, you know, you'll have a great obit because of it. Then you decided by the LA Times in February. Good.
And, you know, owning the main newspaper in the country's second biggest town makes you obviously a media mogul, but it makes you a political figure as well. And LA is so like, why would you do
Speaker 2: why would you you don't need that.
Speaker 0: Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Well, I think it it really helps to know how I grew up. Right? So I grew up in South Africa as apartheid. I because South Africa didn't have I did not see a TV until the age of 21, believe it or not.
Speaker 0: No TV?
Speaker 1: No TV. South Africa didn't have TV, so not a Like period? Period. Also, it was just books and newspapers. That was the only way I got educated, books and newspapers.
To the extent that I would go every day as a newspaper boy to the printing press in Port Elizabeth, sit at the printing press, get the first one off the press, read it, and then run with about two, three hundred papers throughout the city. That would be what I did and grew up. So I fell in love with the printing press, the clicket clack and the oil and the smell. And when the opportunity came, remember, as I said, I had this amazing gift of the resources of selling these two companies that I never anticipated in life. With Michael Ferro saying he took over this company called and they renamed it Trunk, and he was going to shut down the Washington bureau and move all the
Speaker 0: So he owned the LA Times?
Speaker 1: He owned the he owned the Tribune actually, the whole thing, yeah, at that point, yeah.
Speaker 0: Chicago Tribune, the Tribune company.
Speaker 1: The old Tribune company, which included the LA Times and San Diego Tribune, and he knew how desperately I wanted the LA Times because I had helped him invest to to buy the rest of the tribute himself as a minority shareholder then. And he came to me and said, hey, Patrick. You want it? Here's the price. You've got forty eight hours to decide, and it's $500,000,000, no due diligence.
No
Speaker 0: due diligence?
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 0: I Who would take that deal?
Speaker 1: Only crazy people.
Speaker 2: Yes. It's half a billion dollars and you can't see the books.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Nor can you go visit the newsroom because on Monday we're going to actually shut all that and move them all out, I don't want you to talk to these people, and you have until Monday to decide. And I was running a conference in LA with all my scientists in the National Cancer Institute, and all the scientists were there in this hotel, and I said, oh my god. So I went upstairs, and we got a private room, and I brought all the people into the room. And I said, I wanna do it, and I called my wife.
I said, we wanna do this. I think this is an opportunity for us to have a voice for the people, especially if they're gonna shut down Washington, they're gonna shut down LA, we'll never have a paper here. This is one of the most important things. So by Monday, I signed it, and that was it.
Speaker 0: And then And you paid him $500,000,000?
Speaker 1: 5 hundred million dollars. How grateful was he? Very.
Speaker 2: Sorry. I'm sorry to laugh.
Speaker 3: If you hadn't made
Speaker 0: so much money, I wouldn't be laughing because
Speaker 1: it'd be mean, but that's Right. Incredible. So Phil Anschutz saw
Speaker 0: me I've got some stuff I'd like to sell you. Is that
Speaker 2: what you So
Speaker 1: Phil Anschutz saw me at the next Laker game. He says, you know, Patrick, I always thought you were such a smart guy until yesterday. But you know, I have no regrets. I think what I did then was said, okay, I'm gonna take everything I know in health care, that rocket ship that I showed you, and and then create because during that time, Bezos would have this ARC. He'd had the software and he had the Washington Post, and he his team came to see me and said, listen.
We've got this ARC software that we want to run. I said, no. I don't like this old software. I'm gonna go build a completely new software content management system that could take podcast video, live streaming because I want this newspaper to be an educational moment for people. And at the end of the day, a newspaper is not just a newspaper, it's a basis of engagement.
I want to engage, use this as a tool to engage with people, because that's how I grew up. So we took the risk and we built this content management system. Took us five years and we launched it, which could talk to the printing press and it could talk to magazines, it could talk to podcasts, could talk to video, it talk to live streaming, and now it's just gone live. It's called LA Times Studio and LA Times Live. And the next thing we're gonna do is called LA Times Next.
And the LA Times Next, a gentleman called Eric Beach and I are forming so that we could create a platform that would allow voices to be heard and free speech to be heard unencumbered by either opinion or news. So now we have three platforms. We have a platform of news which supposedly is facts. We have a platform of opinion, which are now changed to voices, meaning everybody should have a voice, whether you're right voice, left voice, central voice, do you like Coca Cola, Pepsi Cola, whatever voice, and then a complete platform that allows free speech and video podcast, and now I have that platform. And we've built the infrastructure to accommodate that platform.
And I'm excited by LA Times Next because we're have a studio in in DC, we have a studio in LA, we may have even a studio in Nashville. Shows like this are important because I believe long forms like this is how you communicate for people who are interested. And it could be fun. It should be engaging. It should be interesting.
And that's why I bought the paper.
Speaker 0: Well, those are great reasons as far as I'm concerned, but they come with them. The purchase comes with it a you know, a lot of people who work at the paper. I've worked in newsrooms, like, my well, my whole life, and I know that they hate change. They hate they hate the owner no matter what. Everybody hates the owner just on principle.
There are a ton of unhappy people in journalism, I would say the overwhelming majority, or just for whatever reason we could speculate. And they're very hard to manage. And they're roughly about a hundred or maybe even more percent left wing everywhere, including at, you know, supposedly conservative places they're all lefties. So how do you deal with that?
Speaker 1: By being honest and transparent head on. And I I openly shared with them. I said, listen. We cannot be echo chamber. I won't tolerate it.
It's okay if you're left wing, but you need right wing. So I offered Scott Jennings an opportunity to write on the paper, and I said, we need all voices. And so I said, listen. I don't know who made these rules because I came into this newspaper. I don't know the difference between a columnist and op ed or editorial page and and and news.
And now when you're merging all of these, can you mention the layperson not really understanding the difference?
Speaker 0: That's right.
Speaker 1: And I want you to say, news is news, and you're the newsroom, fine. Theoretically, everything's edited. You've checked it. You fact checked it. But when it comes to an opinion, I'm gonna change that to called be voices, and I want all voices to be heard, all American voices to be heard.
And you know the Kamala Harris endorsement, I took a lot of heat because the editorial board resigned by my taking a stand that we cannot be an echo chamber of opinions not based on facts.
Speaker 0: So just for those who didn't follow it, and it was quite a story, for a couple days there, it was during the campaign, the editorial board, correct me if I'm wrong, wanted to endorse Kamala Harris, and you said no. What did they say to you, and what did you say back to them?
Speaker 1: Well, I can't put in
Speaker 2: Oh, come on. You've gone pretty far already.
Speaker 1: I can just say they were not happy.
Speaker 0: But what was their pitch?
Speaker 1: Like So so so the pitch was, we as a board have met and we have this prepackaged. We know this is outrageous blah blah blah. This prepackaged? What does that mean? We had a prepackaged endorsement.
Speaker 0: What do you mean prepackaged? They already written it? Already written it. After talking to Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1: Never having met her.
Speaker 0: They never met Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1: Never met her. Isn't the
Speaker 0: editorial board supposed to interview the candidates?
Speaker 1: By the way, the editorial board never met even. I'm on the editorial board. I said, I'm on
Speaker 0: the editorial Kamala Harris was in LA all the Correct. So In your neighborhood actually Correct. Raising money.
Speaker 1: Raising money, keeping the traffic in trouble, raising money. And that's and I'd never met her, nor did the board ever met her, and I said, this is unacceptable. And they know they as you could see, because it's a left leaning, they wrote terrible stories about president Trump, which is Had they met him? Not met him either. So my statement to them was, listen, you may have an opinion, but all of us should have opinion based on facts.
I mean, one of the statements that came, and I won't name him, came from a person that said within this concept that vice president Kamala Harris was the most consequential vice president in the history of The United States. So I said No.
Speaker 0: I shouldn't lie. I don't mean to be dismissive. What On what basis did the person say that?
Speaker 1: Having never met her and one so now exactly. You you just hit it on the head, and I said, on what basis do we say that? What are the facts? Can we actually show the the record of that? So I said, you know, it boiled down to, look.
We're not gonna do that. We're just not going to do it.
Speaker 0: What did the person say when you asked? Nothing. Why are you saying she's the most consequential vice president of The United States? Like, what the facts that underlie that judgment?
Speaker 1: Obviously, disagreed with that person, and there are no basis for that other than, as you said, a personal echo chamber. And look, I think I don't know what they're trying to protect. They're trying to if I'm trying to find, I'm trying to find the kernel of basis, the audience, because the audience is left so they need to be left. I don't think that's right. I think I mean, our audience, we lost a lot of viewers.
Right? I mean Yeah. Thousands of people unsubscribed. But I don't think it's right that we should be this canceling society. I think we should be a society that can have a civil discourse like we're having now and disagree.
It's okay. And understand each other's point of view. That's what I think is the value of the paper when you talk about voices. So that's what I'm instigating now. And so I've taken the opt Well,
Speaker 0: let's go back to the comma thing really quick. Were they they were shocked that you canceled that.
Speaker 1: They were worse than shocked. They resigned.
Speaker 0: They resigned.
Speaker 1: So I had three right now, 90% of my editorial voice resigned. And
Speaker 0: Where did they go? Because there are no editorial writing jobs left in the world.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Oh. So look, I think it's important look, I I the fact that I had the courage to resign, some of them know Kevin Murata, I fired. I fired Kevin before they resigned.
Speaker 0: Why did you fire him?
Speaker 1: One, because of leadership. Two, because of I gotta be careful. I don't want to disparage him. I I fired him because I didn't believe he was the right person or of creating taking the paper where it needs to be.
Speaker 0: He was formally at the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: Washington Post. Yeah. I remember that well. And and then after that episode, the editorial board, the rest of them resigned, and now we're rebuilding. Look, we have to we have to and what's exciting to me is I'm rebuilding with young people.
And what's exciting to me is this opportunity with LA Times Next and LA Times Studio and then the newsroom. Teri Tang is doing a fantastic job. She's she's she's working hard to take on the the people and the productivity. The productivity? Well, the increasing productivity.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're implying journalists? Okay.
Speaker 0: So that's a world I understand. Right. Yes. There are some productivity issues there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you ride one slug a month, I I think that's not gonna be good.
Been there. Been there. Yeah. So so it's an it's been an experience, but look, we we they're in for the long haul, I think. And look, it's just not us, by the way.
We gotta save these local newspapers.
Speaker 0: I agree.
Speaker 1: Right? We gotta save the ability to have local discourse. Now with the early fires, it's even more important. Right? Look, I called out Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, and these politicians, you
Speaker 0: know them both.
Speaker 1: I know them both. I text with them both, and I complain to them both, and what I tell the public is what I tell them, so I don't say anything behind their back. I personally say, I said, you're not doing the right thing, whether it be the homelessness. The homelessness, did a terrible job. Yes.
A completely wasteful job. So these are the kinds of things that I think it gave us the opportunity to have a say in our community, you know, and that's what I'll continue to do. Now we'll position ourselves in DC and I think the next four years will be really, I hope, monumental.
Speaker 0: Doctor, thank you for spending all this time.
Speaker 1: Alright. No. I really appreciate it. It's been fun and a pleasure. Thank Thank you.
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@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
David "Chris" Maland graduated from High-School in 1999 but worked for the Pentagon on 9/11? That's 2001 - 1999 = 2 years ⁉️
@mnhousegop - MN House Republicans
US Border Patrol Agent David "Chris" Maland tragically lost his life in the line of duty near the Canadian border on Monday. Today, his cousin, Rep. Krista Knudsen, and the entire House body paused to honor his sacrifice. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends. https://t.co/jn0dyiGdYS
Video Transcript AI Summary
I want to share a personal tragedy: my cousin, US Border Patrol agent David Chris Maland, was fatally shot during a routine traffic stop in Vermont. A native of Blue Earth, Minnesota, Chris graduated high school in 1999 and served honorably in the US Air Force, including security at the Pentagon during the 9/11 attacks. He also worked as a US marshal and in federal security, prioritizing fieldwork over promotions to make a tangible difference. Chris, the first border patrol agent murdered in over a decade, will be remembered for his courage and commitment to protecting others. Our family is heartbroken by his loss, and we will cherish his memory and sacrifice. I ask for a moment of silence to honor him.
Please stand for a moment of silence for the officer who was murdered in the line of duty.
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Speaker 0: Members, I would just like to take a minute to tell you about a national tragedy that affects my family personally. US border patrol agent David Chris Maland was fatally shot in the line of duty on Monday afternoon. Chris was my cousin. This tragedy occurred during a routine traffic stop in Vermont, near the Canadian border. Chris was a Blue Earth Minnesota native.
We grew up in Fairmont, Minnesota, where he graduated from high school in 1999. Was a man of service. He was a US Air Force veteran who worked security at the Pentagon during the nine eleven terrorist attacks. He also served as a US marshal and an independent contractor for federal security. He worked special security detail at both the White House and the Pentagon.
Throughout his career, he was offered many opportunities for promotion, which he turned down because he wanted to make he wanted to be more focused on making a difference in the field and seeing the impact that he had each and every day. He will be remembered for his courage and commitment to protecting fellow Americans. He is also a person who served faithfully with honor and bravery. He always put him put his service above himself. Chris is the first border patrol agent to be murdered in over a decade.
Chris was an incredible man and will be missed dearly. I am grateful for his service, and I know he was very proud of it. Our family is heartbroken. He died in the line of duty, serving to protect our country. We will cherish his memories and mourn his sacrifice.
Until we meet again, Godspeed, you good and faithful servant. I request a moment of silence.
Speaker 1: Members, please remain standing, and observe a moment of silence for the officer that was murdered in the line of duty.
Posted - August 15, 2024 at 12:37 PM
Saved - October 17, 2024 at 1:26 AM
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
#TrumpAssassinationAttempt Keywords: - Michel Vasiladiotis-Nicol: SWAT Medic - Michel Nicol: Deputy Coroner of Beaver County, PA - Greg Nicol
@FrauHodl - FrauHodl
@Tony_Guy_ @Kate_Hampstead Her full name is obviously Michel Vasiladiotis-Nicol and she was the SWAT Medic on duty on July 13, 2024. She is Greg Nicol's wife. According to Michel's LinkedIn-profile she happens to be the Deputy Coroner of Beaver County, PA since September 2019. https://t.co/qV3zljIiqz
