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@JackMaxey1 - Jack Maxey
More threats. I know because his shit bag Intel thew me in a chair in Puerto Rico USA 2/14/22 and MY government did nothing. Time the whole world turn on these ungrateful pricks - and yes if I die, they did it. PS People below are all Mossad agents who stole every electronic device from Hunter 10/18 so they could blackmail his father. Of course traveling on Russian passports per usual.
@netanyahu - Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו
לאף מחבל אין חסינות. כל מי שמאיים על מדינת ישראל - דמו בראשו. https://t.co/EbhbjVuEdi
Posted - June 17, 2025 at 2:04 AM
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@JackMaxey1 - Jack Maxey
As you know I'm no Bannon fan, but I am reposting because it apparently pisses off the neocons to no end. The war Trump needs to worry about is the one brewing right here in America. I do not think he understands the depth of anger.
@TuckerCarlson - Tucker Carlson
Former Trump chief strategist Steve Bannon on how the president’s enemies are working to destroy MAGA with the war on Iran. (0:00) Will the Iran War Be the Downfall of MAGA? (6:55) Fox News’ Pro-War Propaganda (12:42) The Never-Trumpers Pretending to Be On Trump’s Team (15:30) Attacks on Anti-War Voices (25:48) The CIA Is Too Powerful (35:00) Why Is Tom Cotton Working to Keep the JFK Files Classified? (41:16) Lindsey Graham’s Warmongering Motives (48:30) Why Was Nobody Held Accountable for the Iraq War? (54:12) The Spiritual War Is More Evident Than Ever (1:00:53) The California Riots (1:08:55) Why Leftists and Neocons Are Scared of the Term “Nationalist” Includes paid partnerships.
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Donald Trump's election was fueled by an unprecedented coalition, challenging the traditional left-right paradigm. The coalition's core tenets are stopping forever wars, securing the border, deporting illegal immigrants, and redoing trade deals to bring back manufacturing jobs. A potential war with Persia threatens to dismantle this coalition and derail efforts to deport illegal immigrants.
The speaker argues that a "deep state" apparatus, beholden to Wall Street, foreign investors, and Silicon Valley, consistently undermines these objectives, regardless of whether the president is Barack Obama or Donald Trump. This apparatus, deeply embedded within agencies like the CIA, FBI, and Pentagon, operates with its own agenda, prioritizing globalist interests over national sovereignty.
The speaker advocates for a direct confrontation with the deep state, demanding transparency, accountability, and dismantling of its power structures. He criticizes Fox News for allegedly playing a central role in a propaganda operation, reminiscent of the Iraq War era. He also suggests that the US is closer to a third world war than many realize, with conflicts in Ukraine, Gaza, and potentially Persia escalating tensions.
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Speaker 0: Donald j Trump gets elected in November on the back of this amazing coalition, unprecedented coalition, different parts of American society. You never thought of anything in common. Trump paints a picture that makes it really obvious that the old structure, left versus right, Democrat versus Republican, is basically BS and a control device, I think. This is my interpretation anyway. So he creates this brand new coalition.
New York Times writes almost nothing about it because it's such a massive threat. But this coalition, which you are you described earlier and more precisely than anybody by far, is the defining fact of American politics, and it kinda feels like it's being blown up over this war in Iran. That's my observation. Correct me.
Speaker 1: Well, I think if you look at the three planks, no forever stop the forever wars, seal the border, and deport the illegal alien, you know, invaders, and redo the commercial relationships in the world around trade deals and bring high value added manufacturing jobs back here, they're trying to shut all three down. Right? But the one that they the one that they're obsessed with the most, which I find strange, is the forever wars. They've gotta be in the forever wars and particularly in The Middle East. I mean, this is what and I I'm a big supporter of Israel.
Yes. And I'm telling people, hey. If we get sucked into this war, which inexorably looks like it's gonna happen on the combat side, it's gonna not just blow up the coalition. It's also gonna thwart what we're doing with the most important thing, which is the deportation of of the illegal alien invaders that are here. If we don't do that, we don't have a country.
And you just see right now, they're doubling, tripping out. This is actually potentially a real civil war in our biggest cities, and president Trump has to have our backing. And so and this came out of nowhere. I mean, the the trade deals you saw he put he put together the liberation day, but they've been thinking about it a long time. Mean, Trump's been talking about this since Lou Dobbs back in the nineties.
He lays that out there. It's very sophisticated. He's got Scott Bessent running around with Lutnick. They're trying to make these deals. He sealed the border already in the first sixty days.
Now we're really going down and actually having the deportation, see the fight. And then out of nowhere comes a war with Persia. It's like a shooting war with Persia, a massive shooting war with Persia. It's like, how did this happen? And that's why I've been up as a defender of Israel and someone who's very pro Israel.
I've been saying, hey, this is gonna be the end of Israel because of the way these decisions have been made and you have, I think, shockingly, today, early when we had you on the show, you bring up a point that we have to address which I think is the thing itself. What is it about this apparatus? When you have a coalition that's like 1932 that's coming together like like Roosevelt had Harvard professors and crackers and and democrats and ranchers out West and big city bosses and the Irish and the Italians, and he put them all together and they juggled it and they
Speaker 0: Butte, Montana, Birmingham, Alabama, and they're all on the same side. Like, how does that happen?
Speaker 1: And they govern literally almost all the way to Trump. You know, Reagan took out part of it, Newt Gingrich took out part of it, but it was fifty, sixty, seventy years. We have the same ability. We have hardscrabble Hispanics on the rear grand valley of South Texas. We have, tech bros.
We have, you know, economic nationalists. We have economic populists. We have people that wanna stop their forever wars. There's three planks. And right at the beginning of it, you know, and it's on the tenth anniversary of coming down the golden escalator.
That was ten years ago, Sunday. And I tell people as many triumphs and tragedies, victories and defeats, good days and horrible days when we're winning and sometimes we're losing, those ten years of everything that's gone on is just the preamble for where we are today on the convergence of these crises and now all of a sudden, a shooting war where they're taking the Nimitz battle group out of the South China Sea and sending three carrier battle groups now to the North Arabian Sea, Red Sea, plus Arleigh Burke, destroyers and a whole fleet, in the Eastern Mediterranean. We're prepping for a major shooting war. And how did it happen? I think what's most shocking is what you said.
Hey. It was like Iraq. You're inexorably just drawn, and decisions kinda just happened. It's like, what's happened over the last seventy two hours? How do we even get to this point?
How did this actually happen? Who made these decisions when we had the intel out there that this was not, a thing? This was something that was gonna happen a year or two from now. Yes. Bebe admitted to Brent Baer on Sunday night, and so the question before us is not simply the Israel Persia situation, it's what the fuck is going on in this city that just drives this city whether you're Barack Obama or Donald Trump.
And if we don't sort it out now, and I mean right now, that's what we have to have a throwdown. We have to name names. We have to expose it. If we don't throw it out now, throw it down now in the summer of twenty twenty five, we're not gonna have a country. You know, forget the midterms.
Forget the the the the the next election still. We have to have this. What the CIA what happened in Ukraine, what the CIA has done, what DNI is doing, what the justice department, what what the FBI, what DIA and the Pentagon. Because right now, we only have a tenuous grip on those. We have two people at the FBI, Cash and and Bongino.
We got a handful of people over at the a justice department in a massive 30 some person 15,000, 20,000 person operation. We have three or four people at DNI with 17 agencies. We're putting a couple of people in there. At the Pentagon, we got Pete and a handful a handful of guys, and every time a guy steps up or the team steps up to say they wanna stop the forever wars, they're turfed out. He's lost 10 people since we've even got there.
Every time Bridge Colby tries to do something, you know, Bridge Colby's on the front page of, that he's an appeaser. So my point is that we now we're getting down to it. With all these converging crises, we have a apparatus that reports to Wall Street, to foreign investors, to Silicon Valley, in business with the Chinese Communist Party that's running the deal, and now's the time we got we if we don't lance the ball over this, this country you're you're not gonna if you can't turn around with Trump, the Trump team he has, people like you, myself, and the they're blessed to have these apparatuses. If we can't do this now, it's not gonna get done. And so that's why, to me, it's gone of everything we're doing, stopping the forever wars, redoing the commercial relationship with China to bring jobs back, and sealing the border and sending home the 10 deporting 10,000,000, which is gonna be massive, almost like a civil war in these big cities, of all of those, and I've always said the deportation is the most, to get our sovereignty back, the war we have to have now, the throwdown we have to have now is with the deep state, and we can't I think we've we've we've looked away too often.
We're just kinda kicking the can down the road, and if we can't do it now with Trump, it's not gonna get done.
Speaker 0: It does feel like Fox News is playing, and I never criticized Fox because they were so kind to me, but they are playing a, like, a central role in the propaganda operation here, it feels like.
Speaker 1: It's it's the it's what let's go back to the Iraq war. I mean, you were there. You saw it. Look at the Iraq war.
Speaker 0: I promoted the Iraq war.
Speaker 1: Because of the information you were giving. Knowingly, what they did, if you go back to look at Iraq, it's not like these things are successful. They're not successful. They're unsuccessful. They can't be successful because as Lincoln told us, what you need is popular opinion to have your back, and we don't do enough about educating the American people on what reality is.
In fact, they give them the exact opposite. That's why it's all that's what this is the rise of Trump is from two things. The rise of Trump is from the failed Iraq war and from the two thousand eight financial collapse. Exactly. You you had Buchanan before that.
We had Perot before that. We had even Reagan from some populism national. You had the Sprouts. You could see people were trying to get there, but they couldn't. It was those two cataclysmic events.
Right? An epic failed war. Right? That we were lied to about everything the reason we went in. Because remember, first, American people supported it given the information Yes.
They were given. Then later, they realized that, hey. Not just with the initial predicate for this a lie, all the updates were kind of a lie. Right? All the updates were a lie.
We really weren't winning. Right? Until we sent general Kelly to the Amber Amber Province to be the toughest tribe, it was it took forever. And it what? Eight thousand dead, fifty thousand wounded, $9,000,000,000,000, 2,000,000,000,000 in or 7,000,000,000,000 in Iraq and and 2,000,000,000,000 in Afghanistan.
You're just lied about the entire time. That's what's happening here. We're not being dealt with straight, and I'm just saying that on the information that's put out, the Israeli position on this has changed three or four times. First, it was the, nuclear bomb, the the processing of there was gonna be something like last weekend, you had to go now. You had to go on Thursday night.
It had to happen. Right? Then we find out it's a year away at earliest and then it's a decapitation strike. They're trying to have regime change. That just kinda came up over the weekend and saying, oh, since they're there, we're there, we have to do it.
Understand they said this is unilateral, we're doing our own but understanding that they needed American air assets on the defense to protect themselves and this is why the Arleigh Burke were rushed in and this is why American air defense assets have been used nonstop. Now they're talking about, oh, by the way, we really can't take out Fedora. We can't take out the the hidden mountainous second part of this. We need American combat sorties. We need American tankers to refuel us.
We need the buster bunker busting bombs, and we need assets. These things changes all the time. When Tulsi Gabbard's still out there as the last thing publicly said by a senior intelligence official. She said in March, they don't have a program. They haven't had a program.
And Brett Baer asked that's what Brett Baer asked asked Bebe on Sunday night, and Bebe said, well, we have new information, new intelligence. Well, hold it. We were told that we gave you exquisite intelligence. You weren't giving us intelligence. Exactly.
We have to have a total vetting. And by the way, we need to get a vetting on Ukraine. We need to get a vet a vetting on was American intelligence involved because it's a zero probability that without our satellites, without targeting information, without fire control information, there's no chance that the Ukrainians, as courageous as they are, as, as as much valor as they have could have pulled out something so complicated. And so this is right now the fight. The fight has to be we have to take on the deep state, we have to name names, and we have to basically take these organizations and take them apart, and that's then you're gonna unmask everybody in DC that's not really on your side.
You're gonna unmask all those people that say they're conservative and say they're Republicans. When they start protecting this, you're gonna say, well, hang on for a second. This doesn't mean we're a constitutional republic. Trump's commander in chief. This is what a constitutional republic's about.
I don't care if AOC is the president later on or Bernie Sanders or JD Vance, another right winger. Right now, we have a system that's like the prairie guard. It just it's got its own national security policy. It's got its own reason for existence, and it doesn't care who whether it's progressive like Barack Obama or a, a economic populist nationalist like Donald Trump. And so that is the fight we have to take on today.
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There's this mad scramble in Washington on the right to invoke Trump's name and to make the case that, no, no, I represent Trump. He's on my side. I'm true MAGA. And you wind up with these kind of hallucinogenic scenes where you have people who hated Trump, who were never Trump. Mark Levin, you know, hates Trump, which is fine.
But he's like the standard bearer for Trump. But what makes it even more perverse is that these same people are allied with a deep state that is subverting Trump's stated agenda, is negotiation toward peace, both in Ukraine
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 0: And in The Middle East. Trump has said, we wanna get to an agreement with a lasting peace so we can all be richer, safer, and happier. And in both places, his so called allies who secretly hate him have destroyed that.
Speaker 1: And most of those guys are almost all of them to a person were for the Ukraine war. People in your audience should understand one principle thing. We are farther down the pike in a kinetic part of a third world war than how world war two started. If you go back if you go back from September 1939, the invasion the start of the European war, not the Asian. But if you start with the invasion of Poland by the Germans and you go to nineteen June of nineteen forty one, the invasion of Russia by the Wehrmacht, and you look at that time, which really they called the phony war, you look at the casualties from the battle of Britain, the blitz, the fall of France, you look at what happened in North Africa early on, Finland, throwing 300,000 in Finland.
You add it all up, it's not half of what's happened between Ukraine and, and Gaza today and now and now in Persia. We are much bloodier. This is a much we're in a we're in a shooting part of the third world war. The third world is not about to start. It has started, and that's what Trump is saying.
What he wants to do is have everybody lay their guns down. Let's get to the table and figure out a tenuous, at least, you know, subtle piece that we can then use capital and trade and commerce and try to rebuild these countries and let's get people back to work and maybe and maybe tamp this thing down. Whereas the apparatus is doing is exacerbating the conflict part of it. That's where we are right now in the summer of twenty twenty five, and that's this thing is gonna be in the next two hundred days. The next two hundred days are some of the most perilous times for the American Republic in its history because if we don't get this sorted, we're gonna be drawn in totally into a conflict as a combatant, as not a supplier of logistics or as an actual combatant, a participant in the situation in Ukraine, what they did in Russia, in the situation of what Israel is right now doing, to the mullahs as bad as they are and as evil as they are.
Right, we're gonna get sucked into a shooting war of which it'll be ten years and the casualties will dwarf anything you saw in World War two.
Speaker 0: One of the lessons that we never talk about from World War two since you evoke the comparison is that the second the shooting war started in Great Britain and The United States, opponents of the war went to jail, and Winston Churchill's entire political opposition went to jail with their wives, with their wives for the duration of the war, and some of them died. That's been completely just fact. And you can call those people whatever you want and they may have been terrible people, whatever, but they were his political opponents and he put them in jail. And and Roosevelt did, you know, sic the federal government on opponents of the war. Flat out.
So if Lincoln did the
Speaker 1: same thing.
Speaker 0: And Lincoln did the same. That's exactly right. I love Lincoln.
Speaker 1: And in areas that we control in the revolutionary war which not a lot, the same thing happened. That's called war. Exactly.
Speaker 0: This is what happened. Exactly. And opponents of war are invariably described as allies of the enemy and they're persecuted. Do you worry about that happening to you? You just said on camera, I don't want this war, but we're moving toward a third world war.
Speaker 1: Well, I saw a look.
Speaker 0: Are you worried about going back to jail?
Speaker 1: I went to this I went to prison on a misdemeanor, but it was kinda one of the same things. I wouldn't testify. I wouldn't turn because I said this committee is not legitimate. Doesn't have a ranking member. Doesn't have a minority council.
It's totally legitimate. Plus, he's got executive privilege. That's good enough for me and I if I have to fight this and I think it's gonna go to the supreme court, although I've served my prison sentence, I'm taking it up to the supreme court because I had a pretty good ruling, not terrible, from the from the from the appeals court. A couple of the judges are making arguments about why I should take it further. It's definitely gonna happen.
Look what's happening to you. I mean, I've known you for a long time, and I sit there and I look at what's this saying about Tucker. I said, what is Tucker saying so so bad? He's kinda laying out these arguments that ought to be debated right now in the halls. It's moderate.
Tom Cotton's coming out and saying all these influencers and podcasters aren't well, let's have a debate. When we had a debate about the Ukraine about the funny Ukraine in the senate, we beat him. This is why Mitch McConnell had to resign. We we because why? Because the podcasters and influencers are much closer to the MAGA base and can deliver the heat into the house and the senate, and they know that.
I'm all for having a war powers act debate right now.
Speaker 0: Exactly. I
Speaker 1: agree. Let's let's have the American people weigh in because you're gonna see the American people are 90% against, forever wars. And even people that support Israel are saying exactly what we're doing here. We thought we had this thing in Gaza you had to clean up with the Muslim brotherhood in Hamas. Next thing you know, we're dropping we're bombing we're bombing Tehran, and you're taking income is what's happened in Tel Aviv over the last twenty four hours is pretty shocking because you're taking these ballistic missiles.
What's Trump's been saying? Everybody calm down. Let's get back to the table. I can get actual thing. He said, I can get it.
We can take it apart. We can blow it up if we want to, but I can cut a deal. And Wittkoff and Trump, if you gotta talk about two deal makers that don't are not like diplomats, but guys actually going to get stuff done, I feel more confidence with Steve Wittkoff and Donald Trump trying to work something out than continue on the shooting war where, trust me, with a carrier battle group heading over there and all these tankers heading over, to, to the Middle East, we are prepping right now to come in on the offensive side of combat sorties and that's a game changer. As bad as it is now that we're a combatant because we are a combatant, which I say, if they're unilateral, why do we get sucked in here? Where is that decision?
Where you said, hey, Steve, decisions just get made. You never know how they get made.
Speaker 0: They're organic. Don't there's never a moment where we stop and we say, do we wanna be involved in another Middle Eastern war? You just wind up there, just like everything in life. You're just like, how did I get here?
Speaker 1: But I think that's why they're attacking you, because you're saying, hang over a second. Let's have a national discussion on this right now before we get in, and they don't want that.
Speaker 0: But why the viciousness? Not not toward me. I mean, I'm kinda punched out of society, but, like, why is it this topic evokes a a cruelty and a dishonesty that no other topic does?
Speaker 1: It's never been questioned like this. There's never been question out in the out in the open. We've never had this debate that you've kinda led for the last couple of months, and now we're actually having this debate. They've never had people, in government like Tulsi Gabbard, like, like Bridge Colby, like others. And look, I I don't think Bridge is hard enough in the Chinese Communist Party, but his book was amazing and he's got the pivot to Asia which we have to get to.
If people wanna see how the institutions and apparatuses work and this why the democrats are all institutionalists now. Right? Oh, no. We're the anti institutional guys because to see how corrupt they are, You you need not look further than CENTCOM. One of the problems we have is that Obama tried it.
Obama put his whole presidency on the national security side. We're gonna pivot out of Asia. We're gonna pivot out of Middle East to Asia, the pivot to Asia. Put Joe Biden in charge. After eight years, he had one combat brigade of marines, four deployed to Brisbane, Austral Darwin, Australia.
That was it. No other changes. No other changes.
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Speaker 1: Hey. On our on our first Wait.
Speaker 0: Hey. Ask me a buzz. I supported that. That was like the I despise Obama. I think he wrecked the country, but I don't think that's a that was not a crazy idea to pivot.
Speaker 1: We're having this debate. I had Flynn on today after you. The same we're having the same debate today. Remember, the carrier battle group that's overprotecting Taiwan in the South China Sea is now en route to the Malacca Straits. The Nimitz battle group is going to the North Arabian Sea.
Speaker 0: So you're a former naval officer. Give us a sense of the decision making process that leads
Speaker 1: to a move Well, here's what, in in on November fifth of seventy nine, I'm a destroyer officer, navigator on a destroyer in a carrier battle group. We're doing the changeover from San Diego from we're home port. The third fleet to the seventh fleet all takes place in Hawaii, the Hawaiian Opera. You do, like, three or four days of workup because you they have a certain different lingo and a different tempo, you gotta get to how they do it. We get called in in the middle of night in the red phone.
Everybody line up single file and head into Pearl Harbor. Well, Pearl Harbor as a CD tail is almost impossible to do because it's so narrow. Right? And Honolulu is up there, so it's not like World War two. It's very dangerous.
We go in there and we hear the hostages have been taking taken, and now all of our assets in in in Korea, in the South China Sea, and in Japan are heading towards the North Arabian Sea, which the United States Navy had never been at. We had a couple of white painted destroyers in Bahrain, but we were not we were not used to that. So they go, we follow a carrier all the way to Korea because you had to be at we were a gas turbine. We're the only ones who can keep over the carrier. 35 knots for, like, two weeks.
Damn. We destroyed the ship. We destroyed the sonar dome because you go through a typhoon, you go through some heavy weather. Because we had a treaty at the time with Korea. We would keep a carrier battle group within a twenty four hour strike of North Korea.
So we have to get there. Once we get there, they peel us off, us and our squadron of ships, the famous destroyer squadron twenty three, Arleigh Burke's Little Beavers, we go to the North Arabian Sea. Why? They're working up for and that is like a hostile. I tell people, if you haven't been off the coast of Iran or Persia as I call it, it's like the landscape of the moon.
This is the most inhospitable place on Earth. I've been there. Yeah. You've been the Straits Of Hormuz, the Persian Gulf, the North Arabian Sea, and our carrier battle group stayed. We rotated out after about four months.
People stayed and eventually, a couple months later, actually did the failed risk car. We practice every day. You could see every day. They had the they had the lift capacity. The helicopters were practicing going in.
We were actually going to do playing guard against potential Russian fighters in the in the Persian Gulf, put the radars up cause nobody knew what was gonna happen. It was a failed effort but I tell people and it turns out the Nimitz is now about to be decommissioned. This may be their last cruise. They were there fifty years ago is the first time they really got commissioned. Their first assignment was in Gonzo And Camel Station in the North Arabian Sea.
So these are big decisions the Pentagon makes when they particularly today, when they decide to take a carrier battle group, strike group away from the South China Sea and the defense of Taiwan given how on pins and needles we are there because the the Chinese Communist Party are not doing exercises. They're doing rehearsals for an invasion. Yes. To take that out and to take it to the North Arabian Sea is signaling the world that we're about to do something and that's what's so scary right now. And when you get to your theory that these decisions, you're just getting inexorably drawn in, now we have all of our basically air assets that are ready to launch combat sorties on Tehran and whatever else happens, they're in place.
So it just takes it's not like you make a decision, well, it takes us a week to get there. They're in place. The tankers are over there. We could do in tank refueling. So I think in the next twenty four to forty eight hours, a decision could be made and that's why I'm getting more and more vocal, not less vocal, that we need to go full stop right now.
We need to find out because there's too many moving pieces. The moving pieces about exactly what's going on, what's the risk. We haven't had a full debate about this and I would like to see some voices come forward. I'd like to see Tulsi Gabbard come forward and tell us, has anything changed in DNI which is 17 agencies including the CIA for this? Has anything changed from what you told the public at a hearing in March?
Is it if it's changed, let's just hear it. I would like to have John Ratcliffe go to the sticks and I think Ratcliffe's a good man. Mhmm. John Ratcliffe should go to the sticks and say two things. Number one, we had no involvement at all in the Ukraine assault in in under Russia.
Just just just say because he's kinda been in hiding in that and then he ought to be open to parties.
Speaker 0: Criticized. No one ever criticizes John Ratcliffe.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason I think they're not I think the reason they're not criticizing John Ratcliffe and John Ratcliffe's a good man Mhmm. But you have to remember John Ratcliffe was a mayor of a small town in Texas Yep. That went to congress, did a great job, people president Trump likes him a lot. He's he's got Mike Ellis over there but there are two guys. Right, we don't have 10 political appointees which we should have.
We got two guys running that building.
Speaker 0: That's the way the agency is structured. There's no civilian control of the VA.
Speaker 1: No. Well, you you know better than anybody but but it's it it runs it runs the way it's gonna run. I mean, we sent Pompeo over there.
Speaker 0: It's an army. It's a business. It's a government issue. See? A country.
It's a venture capital firm. Literally a venture capital firm, and its budget is unknown. Its reach is and, you know And we have no idea
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Of course,
Speaker 0: because the majority of things that they do are not, you know, US government employees doing, even the door kickers. No. It's they're working through some exile group they've been funding for thirty years. Right?
Speaker 1: They will also look you right in the eye Oh, know. And lie to you. Oh, I because that's the the wilderness of mirrors. Right? Look.
Look.
Speaker 0: And they're smart. Somebody said to me the other day, someone knowledgeable said, the problem with the US government is like, why can't we do this or that? And, like, if you wanted light rail, you know we couldn't do it. And this person said, because all the smartest people in government are
Speaker 1: at CIA. They also with the interagency process, they control the entire process. This is why downsizing NSC was so important. When you have this we had these detail leads that come from all the different departments because NSC should have 30 people, but it had 250. There are 60 political appointees.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right? And there's 280 come from different agencies to do all the different paperwork. They have the interagency process. The CIA controls that process. They control the process at the Pentagon.
They control the DHS. Yep. They control over the justice department. They are embedded deep because they've been around, you know, they've been around so long, and they know how to embed deep, right, with the smartest people out there. And so if you don't get control of that, you're not gonna get control.
They're like a praetorian guard right now. We have to we have to lance at it. This is like the Roman late stage of the Roman Empire when the praetorian guard kinda ran the deal and they would put forward every legionary captain that they thought was gonna be good for a time, and they are planning right now to thwart president Trump's second term, make sure they wait him out, and they're gonna have a hand selected person for the third term. And I don't say this as a conspiracy theory guy. This is just basic fact.
Speaker 0: Totally true. They're so clever that if you criticize them, they will leak to people that you work for them. I happen to know. Oh, it's just, like, kind of brilliant. Like, if if you're an effective critic of CIA, Joe Ken, I've lived this personally, but also Joe Ken, who's a wonderful man, totally sincere man.
Speaker 1: Great man.
Speaker 0: Former CIA contractor, lost his wife in Syria in Obama's Syria war, and and became an opponent of the way things are running. And they CIA played in his primary and the way they did it was by convincing Republican primary voters that Joe Ken, who's the single most effective critic of CIA in The United States, was actually working for CIA. I mean like wow. I I tipped my nonexistent hat in deference to the brilliance of that.
Speaker 1: This is how brilliant they are. You notice from president Trump the the arc that he went through on Friday. I you know something's up when David Ignatius at the Washington Post, which we call the Langley Bugle. He's the he's the head of comms. Oh, I'm aware.
When Ignatius comes out on Morning Joe and says, Trump is doing such a really magnificent job here. He's acting like your commander in chief. That should be the red flare that goes up and goes, what the fuck? What the fuck? So I mean
Speaker 0: It's too funny to swear I don't have a TV because it's too frustrating to like, I don't know a single person who doesn't like David Ignatius personally, and that would include me, and he's just such a courtly man. He's like the Murdochs. He's just you can't dislike him. He's just elaborate wonderful manners. He's very nice.
But like he is he is the spokesman for
Speaker 1: CIA and you wonder The Washington Post is the lamely
Speaker 0: The lamely people. When Lewis Joylan West, who was one of the last visitors to Jack Ruby in his cell before he went insane, was a CIA physician and, you know, deeply involved in a lot of really dark some of the darkest things we've ever done. When he died, I went and looked up the Walter Pincus obit from the Washington Post. Walter Pincus was the CIA. Think Walter Pincus wrote it.
And there was no mention in the Washington Post obit that Jolly West worked for CIA. And it's just like, oh my god. Where they were. It's like but you wonder, like, do people watching Morning Joe have any idea who these people are?
Speaker 1: No. That's the whole the furthest out.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a great story. You you talked about the Kennedy thing today. There's a great story in in the book. The guy just came out about the the Kennedy assassination and and and the the house and senate committees, the church committee, the biography of the church committee came out about a year or two years ago. He talks about when it was first formed, Frank Church is gonna be one thing, but they got Gary Hart in there who had just been elected.
Yeah.
Speaker 0: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Mike Mansfield, the old head of the know, really a guy knew how to run things. Right? Mansfield from Montana picked both of them. Church to head the committee, but Gary Hart was gonna be assigned to the CIA to find out what went on. So Hart's seeing Colby and seeing some of the former directors and and they and they tell him and said, hey.
The guy you really gotta see all of them tell him to say, it's nice to have dinner. You guys see Angleton. Angleton Angleton runs the deal and he was the counterterrorism Yeah.
Speaker 0: Counter intel.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Legendary guy there forever. Yeah. And he goes to, I think, the Metropolitan Club
Speaker 0: Of course.
Speaker 1: For dinner and Angleton would take a drink And Gary Hart sitting there kinda working him, and so towards the end of the evening, he can't get up enough courage to ask, like, the questions. So finally, he says, you know, it's about over. I gotta do this. He says, look, mister Angleton, I just got a question, from the committee. We we need to know, did the did the CIA have anything to do with the Kennedy assassination?
Speaker 0: He asked Angleton that?
Speaker 1: He asked Angleton. It's in the bar. Call it. Angleton takes another drink, puts it down, and goes, senator Hart, you were a you were a theology major, were you not? Goes, yeah.
As a matter of fact, I was a theology. He said, so you know the the New and Old Testament pretty well? He goes, well enough. He goes, in my father's house, there are many mansions. Cary Hart goes, what the fuck?
Didn't ask another question. Went back to church in Mansfield, Mansfield goes, okay. Shut it down. He goes, no. This is why they came out the CA.
Remember, they had tried to kill guys in The Congo. Oh, yeah. They even had the cigar in Castro. Nothing about the domestic stuff at all. That all got shut down immediately and they figured, oh, it was a Lumbumba in in in
Speaker 0: Patrice Lumba in Congo.
Speaker 1: In Congo and they had tried to kill or killed three or four other guys, maybe Degg, Hammarshar, who knows?
Speaker 0: But they got Definitely Degg.
Speaker 1: They got into all these things that the American people are interested in, why are killing foreign leaders, but they didn't get to the heart of many mansions. Gary Hart is that I I'm not going any farther on this one. Right?
Speaker 0: And within ten years, Frank Church is dead of galloping cancer and Gary Hart is totally destroyed in 1988 through the
Speaker 1: The leading presidential candidate at the time Oh, yeah. On with a picture Just
Speaker 0: lured onto the monkey business.
Speaker 1: And then they and then in his house, the first time they ever just surrounded his house, remember? Oh, I
Speaker 0: never forget it at all. And boy, and the Washington Post led the and I'm not for Gary Hart or whatever, but he today's don't need be
Speaker 1: awesome though. You're gonna you're gonna pay this. It's be payback.
Speaker 0: It's literally unbelievable, but you can't how do you have a real country in the middle of that?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't under Well, you can't. This I think you make the point. Since 1963, it's we've devolved. And that's why I'm not kidding. As Elon was the special government employee to do Doge, to try to get waste, fraud, and abuse, I think because we're at war now and the war we're at is an internal war.
It's an internal war with this apparatus that we finally have a leader that who have the back of people that will go in because he wants it taken down. I think he's getting terrible advice around that. Someone like you, not to organize it, but who knows the history of these institutions and quite frankly where the bodies are buried, have to come in as a special government employee to help get the people on the gun organized. We have to go to war against the deep state now. If we don't go to war with the deep state immediately and have a couple of wins that we can point to and some momentum and put them on their back leg, their back foot in the next two hundred days, nothing in America is gonna change.
Speaker 0: And we should be clear about who's serving its interest. Tom Cotton, who's the chairman of the Senate Intel Committee, the Select Committee on Intelligence, was one of the primary drivers of secrecy around the Kennedy files. So Tom Cotton, I think, was born in the eighties, and I like Tom Cotton a lot. I know him. I know his wife who worked at CIA.
Nice super nice people. But when it came down to it, when Trump gets elected and gets inaugurated in January, Tom Cotton's he's denied this, but he's lying because it's true. I know for a fact. Tom Cotton's running around being like, well, whatever we do, we can't put people in place. We're gonna declassify all the Kennedy assassination files.
Sixty two years later. I think Tom Cotton was born in the eighties. Why would he care? It's not
Speaker 1: a sources and methods thing anymore.
Speaker 0: What is Why would Tom Cotton be so concerned about releasing the Kennedy documents that he's trying to prevent people from getting jobs on the basis of his belief that they might reveal those documents? Like, what is that? Because that's It's disqualifying. He shouldn't be in the senate, of course.
Speaker 1: But he knows that that is the key that can pick the lock. That something happened in 1963. We had a coup d'etat. Yep. Yes.
The country's never faced up to it. Nope. The country understands that, like, 80% something's dead wrong. They understood at the time the Warren Commission was gun decked. Yes.
You go back and read this new book even by New York Times writer. You see how what a joke it was, how the FBI stepped in immediately. Jerry Ford was their guy. It was a complete joke.
Speaker 0: But he was a made president without an election.
Speaker 1: Made president without election? I'm just saying there are no coincidences.
Speaker 0: Jerry Ford of the Warren Commission becomes president without an election, and you're like, The
Speaker 1: if you go I've read the testimony of the Warren Commission. Justice in the Warren Commission, the in the in the Sixth Floor in the depository where the gunman sat, right next to him, the guy I think his name was Willie Davis. He was a worker. Of the of the black guys were up on the top deck pointing afterwards when the shot took place, he was gonna go join those guys. He actually sat there and had his lunch right next to where the assassin was.
Now you know assassins in in in CIA and in Navy SEALs, I mean, their heart's beating out of their chest before that happens because they understand it may be the last time they take a breath on Earth Yeah. Is when they fire. So they are really ready to meet their maker, and they're highly focused. The last thing you're do on Earth is get that target. That is just is just these cartons just suppressing by a few feet.
This guy's giving testimony and it's unbelievably, they go, well, you were there? Yes. What were you doing? He says, was eating a, a chicken sandwich, a bag of Fritos, and a and a Coke. And and they're going, you're right next to him and everything's going and you're hanging on the edge of it.
And then all of a sudden, Jerry Ford steps in and goes, excuse me. I have a question. Do you have a criminal record? And the guy goes, excuse me? He goes, do you have a criminal record?
And the guy goes, well, I was picked up. No. No. No. You're a felon.
Right? And the whole conversation drops. I go, oh my god. We're literally at the moment and literally five ten minutes before the shot takes place, we have a witness that's there and you gotta ask him, did you hear anything? Did you see anything?
Yeah. No. And and Jerry Ford told us and as you mentioned with Angleton and the guys, a few years later, out of nowhere, on a on a Watergate, another operation they were deeply involved in. Right? He's made vice president of United States?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Because the president's the most popular president in American history is undone by a naval intel officer posing as a journalist. Exact just Just the Washington Post. You probably have a lot going on in your life, meaning you don't wanna waste a lot of time thinking about life insurance though you know you need it. We all need it.
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Policygenius.com/tucker. So you wonder, like, a lot of this is taking place in private, and it's one of the great frustrations as an American is you don't know what your government's doing, and you you have no way to find out. Even when it's done sixty years ago, you don't know. But some of it's taking place totally in public, the Tom Cotton stuff, and grieves me to say this because I like Tom and I think he's smart. Really smart, actually, and a good guy in a lot of ways.
But he's acting on behalf of CIA, not on behalf of the people of Arkansas, obviously. But then there's Lindsey Graham, who's like florid out in public, like there's no kind
Speaker 1: of hiding who Lindsey Graham is and what how does what is that? The whole Ukraine thing, he and Pompeo, how the weekend before the drone assault takes place. He's in Ukraine saying something's gonna happen. He's in France. I mean, if you talk to people over there, it's like he had inside baseball.
He was all jacked up. The good things are gonna happen. Pompeo's in, like, Odessa giving a talk. I mean, what is Mike Pompeo? There's a middle of a war over there.
We're trying to extract ourselves. What is Mike Pompeo in Odessa giving some, you know, a rally speech and essentially pumped these guys up? And he's talking about certain things that could happen or certain positive things to hang in on this war. Exactly what president Trump's counter to. President Trump is trying to have everybody lay down their guns and let's because right now, the British papers report is a million Russians dead or wounded.
There's 750,000 Ukrainians dead or wounded. I mean, this has been devastating like World War one type of Yeah. Of casualties. President Trump is sitting there going, we need to put the guns down. I need to get people at the table.
We need to talk we'll even buy your dirt. We'll buy your rare earths. We'll put money in, which we oppose, but if president Trump thinks he needs that for a peace deal, we'll support him. What is, what is Mike Pompeo and Odessa jacking these people up? What is Lindsey Graham over there jacking people up about?
These questions have to be asked. We have to ask what part of our government is going against the commander in chief and what the commander in chief is is trying
Speaker 0: to do. Is it legal for Lindsey to do that?
Speaker 1: Well, there's Logan Act. You know, I called Well, yeah. I called for his arrest. Good. In fact, absolute or cancel his passport.
Do two things. Either don't lay him back in the country or arresting. And and I'm adamant about this in Pompeo also because I think there are arguments around the Logan Act that they're over there countering what the commander in chief's trying to do and I
Speaker 0: think And they have security clearances too, which I don't have, and you don't have, I assume, a security clearance. Not anymore. Right. But why does
Speaker 1: I don't want one right now.
Speaker 0: No. I don't either. Because you can sit there and go, hey.
Speaker 1: Do mean? No. Don't blame me.
Speaker 0: I didn't see But why does Lindsey Graham and why does Mike Pompeo have security clearance?
Speaker 1: Well, I think you gotta ask Mike because I'm very disappointed in him. I I knew him for years.
Speaker 0: Me
Speaker 1: too. The guy I know today, the guy I see today is not the guy I knew. And I think I think people have to I think they ought to come on when they come on TV is they ought to have the like, NASCAR drivers. Like, who's on the whose payroll they are? Exactly.
Right? We the American people are at least ought to be in a Chiron who they're taking money from.
Speaker 0: But who what what's the deal with Lin oh, let me just say, I've known Lindsay for twenty five years and it's impossible not to like Lindsey Graham. He's one of the most charming, funny. He's just a wonderful person to travel with. He's the most charming person in the world. I'll just say that because it's just true.
I like him. If he was here, I would be having fun with Lindsey Graham. But his effect on The United States is so destructive. I don't understand what that is. What is his motive?
You know him well, of course, because you're
Speaker 1: Well, know. Look. I think, number one, he's very involved in the Pentagon on our services committee. The Pentagon, the building runs like the building's gonna run. I mean, it's a trillion dollar.
Why when president Trump says we're gonna go to a hemispheric defense from Greenland to block the Russian submarines to Alaska and maybe Canada for the Arctic because that's the new great game of the twenty first century. Is reasonable. To to the Panama Canal because they're gonna block the Chinese and Russian neighbors and get the Chinese out of the Caribbean. We'll deal with Venezuela. We'll have the Central Pacific, which has always been kind of our strategic pivot, the three island chains.
And America's hermetically sealed. You you add a golden dome or some sort of ballistic missile. America can live in peace and we do greatest. And we can do expeditionary not that we're not engaged in the world, you can do expeditionary forces anywhere you want in the world.
Speaker 0: You can put Chinese infrastructure in Saint Croix, which they have a lot of in Saint Croix, which we control.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 0: So you can't let the Chinese control your hemisphere. That seems reasonable and they'll say to us, okay, get out of Japan. At which point you say, okay. This I mean, that seems like logical.
Speaker 1: This budget is not a trillion dollars going up. Right? Because right now, it's over a trillion dollars. If you add the supplement that's coming in, the reconciliation bill with the NDAA, you're over a trillion dollars and it's only gonna keep increasing. This is the way the defense contractors make money.
They embedded it over there. They kinda run the building right now. You don't see any pushback by armed services. In fact, every district's got huge plants. As you know, our industrial policy that we do have is really around arms manufacturing.
Speaker 0: That's it.
Speaker 1: Right? And it's a it's a high margin business and we wanna sell weapons to the entire world. It's that system that's running the country. Remember, the difference between president Trump's first term and his second term is what happened under Biden is a massive concentration of power because they didn't back Lena Khan or the antitrust people like we have now in president Trump's administration like Gale Slater and what's happening to the FTC under Andrew Ferguson taking big tech to court and trying to break them up. Right now, have Wall Street, you have big tech, you have big agriculture, you have big pharma, you have the big health care industry, you have the defense contractors, you have the concentration of these massive industries that have every lobbyist, every, every, communications expert, all the big law firms on their payroll.
If you and I want to start today and say, hey. Guess what? We wanna take on one of the industries. Let's take let's take on big ag. You literally can't get a great law firm to represent you or a great lobbyist because they're all they're all hired by these guys.
That concentrates
Speaker 0: And they'll set up regulatory hurdles that are insurmountable. This is the regulatory capital. I'm living that in something that we're doing on the side, and you just find out that it's crazy. That concentration of power
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Regulatory capture and really regulatory merger. It's we said when we gave China everything after Tiananmen Square, when we gave them most favored nation status and WTO access that that the more they more they get prosperous by because they were a backward agricultural country at the time. The more prosperous they get, the more they'll become like a liberal democracy like The United States. I remember that.
We actually have copied the model of the Chinese Communist Party. They have a handful of state owned industries, very powerful, merged in with the central government, an authoritarian government. That's what we have and that's what president Trump the promise of president Trump is to break that. The American people don't want it. They hate it.
Now they need the tools to do it, and that's why I think this next couple hundred days coming after the tenth anniversary of really president Trump what happened? At the top of the escalator, Trump was in seventh place because people didn't know if he's serious about running or not. No. Right. He had just gone to CPAC, I think, ninety days before.
In in the twenty fifteen CPAC, Trump finished seventh in the poll at three and a half percent
Speaker 0: I remember. Behind all
Speaker 1: these guys. At the top of the escalator, he's in seventh. That night, they do a flash poll, I think, on CNN. He's first. Why?
That talk was in a nomenclature and a vernacular the American people weren't hadn't heard from a politician about the border, about deportations, about China, about bringing jobs back, about ending the forever wars. Remember, as the campaign went on, he goes to South Carolina. I'll never forget it. And in South Carolina, he literally blew up the entire not just Bush apparatus, kind of Fox and kind of everybody on the right that had been in there. And when he said it, you could hear the audience gasp so many commentators came on and said, that's the end of him because
Speaker 0: They all said that. Except me because I was the only one at Fox News that who I knew, I was like, yes. Thank you for telling the truth finally.
Speaker 1: But everybody around you was that he's finished.
Speaker 0: They hated me for agreeing with him. They hated me personally.
Speaker 1: And he won in a landslide.
Speaker 0: Karl Rove, never who was my neighbor and always got along with him. Again, perfectly charming guy, sort of. Very not a good person at all, but but smart and, know, Carl. But after that, that's that was the moment I realized it was in that Greenville, South Carolina debate that all that mattered to them was a projection of force abroad. That's it.
Everything else was just
Speaker 1: they were so shocked he said it and united in the fact that he can't win?
Speaker 0: That's when Bill Crystal turned against him, was that night. And if you look you could look it up. Check his Twitter feed. The day before, Crystal was like, you know, Trump's kind of a pig, but he's our pig, and actually we can kind of use him, and maybe we should make peace with Trump. Bill Crystal said that, who I used to work for for many years.
The day after that Greenville debate, he took the position that he has now, which is, you know, we'll destroy the country to prevent Trump from exercising power. Like, was a sworn enemy of Donald Trump's effort when he came out against the Iraq war. How weird. Why if you hit some if you killed a child in a DUI, okay, you're drunk, you accidentally run over a child, there's no possibility you could meaningfully advance in American life because people would say, we've forgiven you, Steve, but you did something that's
Speaker 1: so horrible. Irresponsible.
Speaker 0: It's just horrible. It was a mistake. Yeah. It was a mistake, but it was horrible. We allowed the architects of the Iraq war who gravely injured The United States, got all these people killed, Americans killed, to continue to advance.
They were never held to account for what they did ever at all. Well, on the same They became the head of the World Bank. But how do we
Speaker 1: do The specter of that is what we faced over the last seventy two hours. This is exactly the same pitch as the Iraq war. Weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 0: Oh, I know.
Speaker 1: You have to get it so they they understand one thing. They think the playbook works. This is why we have to stop it now. If we don't stop it now, we're we're it's gonna work all the time. They think that playbook of lulling the American people to sleep and telling them that there there's there's these evil people that have to be taken down, or if they're taken down, everything's gonna be fine after that and that we face an apocalypse if that doesn't happen.
They're running the Iraq war playbook over again with almost some of the same players or at least the proteges, right, in the verticals of who those players were.
Speaker 0: But why does institutional conservatism allow it? If Mike Pompeo shows up at the, you know, Republican County of dinner in some state, like, he's treated as I was in a restaurant with him recently. Everyone's like, oh, Mike Pompeo. He's treated us like a legitimate person. No one has ever the right does not hold its own people accountable on the most basic
Speaker 1: I say the right. The Republican Party is controlled opposition. Okay? They've they because they've never really put a fight. Let's go back to the three central tenets of Trumpism, you know, immigration, border and sovereignty, trade and ending forever wars.
The official apparatus of the Republican Party hates all three of them and doesn't agree with and they agree with the Do
Speaker 0: any them still true?
Speaker 1: It's a 100%. This is look look what happened here in the last twenty four hours on the immigration side. All of a sudden, was a they promulgated that, because of big agriculture's needs, that we can no longer have raids on farms, raids in hotels, all of it, that that had to be counted by president Trump saying, hey. There's 20,000,000 illegal aliens. I'm a get them all out of here.
And then today or this morning, he came out with, we're gonna triple down the raids in sanctuary cities. Right? I'm a get all these guys out of here. No. There's huge institutional fight led by Fox News.
Right? Their biggest is the forever wars. But if you look at the Wall Street Journal and if you look at Fox News on the trade and bringing jobs back from China, they're very ambivalent about that. They're talking about the cost of living. I mean, they're putting up that, you know, because they're all free traders, which is the way the country got in the in the in in the first place.
They're also quite ambivalent on, on on the immigration and mass deportation. Remember, mass deportation is just not the criminals. You have to get president Trump said they 20,000,000. I say it's, 10 came in on Biden's watch. They all have to leave, but you're seeing a lot of ambivalence to that, particularly the public party.
They're saying the Wall Street Journal says, well, no. They they add 2% one and a half to 2% to GDP, right, because they buy so much stuff. Number two, they've driven down wages among particularly low skilled black and Hispanics. I say this is why we put the coalition together. This is why 39% of black men are voting for us.
This is why South Texas is now MAGA territory because they understand their wages to be driven down. So I think the Republican Party hates the basic tenets of president Trump's platform, particularly the one they most hate is ending the forever wars. That's tied to both Wall Street. It's tied to the defense industry. It's also tied to this mentality that we have an American empire.
Remember, you and I saying, hey. We are actually a republic. We wanna go back to being a republic. Like Yeah. The founders of our country, when they set the constitution, they looked to Republican Rome.
That was their source of not the Roman empire. No. What we've done, in fact, they said, I think it was general Washington, don't go over seas looking for monsters to slay. Exactly. Right?
We have enough to do here. Let's do this. And I think that that's why we've gotten so far off track and we have an American empire. That empire has to be taken apart brick by brick because all it's done is to basically destroy the inner workings of The United States and just particularly destroy the very people who are the cannon fodder in these wars. Right?
And that's why
Speaker 0: Destroy the nation. Drive around drive around the country. Just get in your vehicle and drive. And I don't see how anybody could say things are better now than they were fifteen or twenty years ago or forty years ago. It's a disaster and so the empire destroys the country.
Speaker 1: And you add on top of it the national debt and the trillion dollars every month and the the discussions. We have a discussion. Doge goes to a bunch of different places, but they never go to the Pentagon. They're not really allowed to go to the Pentagon. We have a a budget that we're talking about how do we make these cuts, how do you cut Medicaid, how do you cut the food stamp program, which all have to be looked at and done.
But it's sacrosanct we can't even talk about defense. We have a trillion dollar defense budget, and I keep saying Trump's laid out a strategy of hemispheric defense. It's very different than postwar where we're everywhere, the American empire in really around the ring of the Eurasian landmass. Right? And I said, he's talking about a hemispheric defense.
The budget is totally misaligned with the hemispheric defense, both in the allocation than the navy taking down big army. But, hey, baby. The defense budget's gonna go, and you're not gonna cut a a penny out of it because, like you, you're raising your voice as someone that that likes Israel and agrees with Israeli nation. You're saying that you raise your voice and all of sudden you're being eviscerated, that you're an enemy of the Jewish people, that you're an anti Semite, that not just that, you're an appeaser, and he said Tucker's a pacifist. Right?
A peaser and a pacifist because they understand Show
Speaker 0: up at my house and find out how far my pacifism extends. No. I mean, it's no. It's all it's slander and it's it it bothers me simply because it does convince people whose opinions I care about and I who I care about personally, and it it fractures relationships. And it also comes from people I know really well, and Ari Fleisher, who I've never, you know, like, respected, but I always liked him, and I he wrote something.
Somebody sent me this thing yesterday, and, you know, I'm just a carnival barker, I'm pretending to have my views, and I I texted him, I was like, come on. Like, this is not you know I may be totally wrong. You, of course, disagree with me. That's fine. But you know that I'm sincere.
I'm totally sincere. Why else would I do this? Of course, he didn't respond to me, but it's painful.
Speaker 1: Of Ari who every day went to the podium and pulled us just another day away from fighting weapons of mass destruction. How could they sit there and enlighten the nation? Now, I am quite serious. Given because you're a product of Washington DC. Yeah.
There's no one better in an emergency. We have an emergency. We have a break the glass emergency to actually be an adviser to the president, right, in a temporary thing than you who know the whole land you know the canvas. Not that you're orient but you could sit there in the in the in the NSC, in the in the tank or the tanks of Pentagon, but down where the Kennedy Room and actually walk through, this is the apparatus. This is what we have to do.
This is what we have to do with the FBI. This is what we have to do with the CIA. This is we have to do with DNI, the Pentagon, and then we have people execute that.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Never survive that. But, I mean, I don't come back. I had breakfast alone in the dining room in the Metropolitan Club this morning, which is place I love. It's the only person there.
It's me and the waiters who I know well and love. And the second I walk outside that building, I'm like, woah. The vibe in the city is It's bad. Can you feel that?
Speaker 1: Just feel it. Ever since ever since president Trump left in January 2021, because it was an armed camp then. We had around the
Speaker 0: I'd I'd left by then. I was like, I'm out.
Speaker 1: You came to the War Room. We had a 100 national guard troops
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: With two Humvees, barbed wire everywhere. It took from the guys at at Fox and One America to come up to the War Room. It's only a five minute walk up the hill. Forty five minutes to get there, they go through checkpoints. Ever since that time and I hate to say with all the positive energy president Trump has brought, it's still a dark specter.
The the this imperial capital is probably and I tell you why. They understand there's an internal civil war here, that one side's gonna win and one side's gonna lose. Their their belief is they're gonna wait us out, that for all the Tucker Carlsons and Steve Bannon's and other people around president Trump are sitting there going, the Bobby Kennedy's, right, and other people that know how this apparatus works at every level and are sitting there going, we have to do this now. They believe that they will wait president Trump out, and I don't put a a a a possibility of an assassin if president Trump is to go too far into this Yeah. And bring you into that, do not think they would not think of an assassination attempt.
They have no intention of turning over control and power of the most powerful empire in man's history, it has to be taken from them and I tell people we either do it now, if we don't do it now, this this wave of kind of people that have come together, we're not gonna be able to do it and if we don't do it, I'm not sure we win another election because I think people are gonna they're gonna force us into doing either not deporting the 10,000,000, right, and that's occurring the border, not forcing China and not really cutting tough deals that start to bring real high value added manufacturing jobs back because Wall Street doesn't want that. They they think our labor cost is too high. They think the environmental cost is too high. They love the slave labor of Lao Wei Jiang. And most importantly, they're not gonna stop the war machine.
They're not gonna stop and I'm not a pastor. I spent eight years of my life as a naval officer. My daughter went to West Point. She fought in in Iraq in 2010 under Obama. Right?
It's not that we're pacifists. We'd see what we see, and what we see now is a very evil specter over this imperial Capital, and one side is gonna win. The president Trump kinda rebels or revolutionaries versus his praetorian guard apparatus and that's why this fight to me is gonna happen. The next two or three hundred days, we're gonna we're gonna know what side this is gonna we're we're gonna know if there's enough momentum on our side to actually win.
Speaker 0: Yeah. There's a you get to spiritual thing and you can I texted my wife this morning? It's the second this administration's gone, I'm never coming back here and I'm gonna spend got here in 1985 and it's really shocking.
Speaker 1: You see you feel that though
Speaker 0: when you're here. Oh. Yeah. It's just dark. It's super dark, and where I live normally is very you know, it's not thriving at all.
It's poor and there are lots of problems and people die of drug ODs and all that, but you don't feel a lot of people die of drug ODs, but you do not feel this kind of when we sold our house five years ago, my wife sold it over the phone, and next thing I know, there is a it was a great house, beautiful house, super pretty house, not huge, but beautiful, in the District Of Columbia, and she sells it to a CIA officer. Who pays cash? But in court. And the next thing you know, there's a Ukraine flag falling from my flagpole. And I'm not making this up.
And my neighbor sent it to me. He's like, oh, look what happened to your house, a house I really loved. And I was like, wow, that's just metaphor. But okay, so let me ask you. You've made a couple of allusions.
I almost don't wanna ask you because it's upsetting, but to the country coming apart Yeah. To conflict here. Clearly, there's been a rise in violence, This weird Minnesota story, which I'm not even gonna ask you about because I don't understand it at all. I don't think anybody does. But I wanna ask you about what's happening in California.
It does seem like resisting federal authority on immigration is an act of sedition, more profound than anything they did at Fort Sumter in 1861, and this is not resolved. Like, don't what are we watching right now in California with Gavin Newsom?
Speaker 1: You're you're from DC. I'm from Richmond. I'm raised in Richmond and I keep telling people, I thought we settled this about federal law and and states rights in succession in the mid eighteen sixties. We had a civil war to determine the outcome of this. We've had that discussion.
We've had that argument. It's been settled. I said this to president Trump in the first term that this whole thing of sanctuary cities and sanctuary states is absolutely a neo confederate, you know, mentality Yes. That you can have Gavin Newsom, right?
Speaker 0: Have he said that on War Room? Yes.
Speaker 1: I've said
Speaker 0: That is neo confederate.
Speaker 1: He's so smart. It's a neo confederate.
Speaker 0: It is. That's exactly what it is. Jackson I'm stealing that by the way. No. No.
No. Because So good.
Speaker 1: Jackson look. He had this thing before the civil war with with Andrew Jackson and John c Calhoun Yeah. On tariffs where they remember, the the landed aristocracy in South Carolina were some of the richest people. I think Charleston had more what would be equivalent to billionaires Yes. At the start of the civil war than any place on earth.
Speaker 0: And it shows in the battery down there.
Speaker 1: Battery. It's magnificent today. John C. Calhoun, is his vice president, was gonna stop and go down and defend, South Carolina said, we're not gonna do these tariffs. And Jackson said, I'm gonna call the army down there, and if Calhoun's defying me, I'm gonna hang him from the first lamppost.
I mean, Jackson was a guy who was gonna take immediate action. What's happening in California is kinda the equivalent. You've had the sanctuary cities, and if president Trump had not sent the troops in and federalized the national guard, what would happen in LA was what we see in all these cities. It would explode. It'd been the summer of love of of twenty twenty five where there was a lot more rhetoric than actually action.
One of the reasons president Trump had Bill Barr and Esper and all these people that wouldn't execute what he wanted. Now he's got a team, and that's I'm so glad he came out last night and says, I'm doubling and tripling down the rates. My recommendation on the show the day after this stuff happened over that weekend was president Trump ought to triple the ICE raids and he ought to go to, you know, he ought to go to schools or hey. They gotta go. Right?
They have to go, and it's not pleasant. We gotta be very humane about it, but you have to have a show of force. And if you need to send in the army, if you need to send in federalized national guard, we have to do it. California is the railhead of this. That's why you have to break it there.
It's gonna obviously pop up in Chicago and New York, but you have to take and Steven Miller said this. I've known Steven a long time ago. Andrew and Steven Miller and Ben Shapiro, Alice Mullen, they all came out of kinda West LA. Right? Ben may have been the valley, but they're all West LA guys.
Steven Miller has been saying since the time I knew him, the war for America is gonna be won or lost on the streets of Los Angeles. He said this now for almost twenty years, and this is what this fight and this is what's so disturbing about the timing. We're totally focused on that and president Trump actually implementing the deportations, a mass deportation. And all of a sudden this thing breaks out in in in Persia, in The Middle East, and now the whole country is just focused on that. It's almost like a time diversion to get
Speaker 0: our attention. Feel that
Speaker 1: way. Because Bebe gave it up. There was no that didn't have to happen on Thursday night. We were told, but it was leaks, oh, there's a bomb, and they're gonna have it. And, you know, this is something they have to have immediately, immediately, immediately.
He comes on Brett Bear and says, well, it's twelve or thirteen months. We've heard the twelve or thirteen months for twenty years. Maybe it is twelve or thirteen months, but that doesn't mean you have to act on Friday. Why is it Thursday and Friday when we're in the middle of actually the most important part of this third world war is the 10,000,000 invaders we've had in this country or 20,000,000 according to president Trump? They all have to go.
You understand that there's many bad actors that came in on this, right, that are now sleeper cells in this country. Everybody's gotta go, and we have to do it. That is the cent when I talk about Third World War, the central battlefront for The United States Of America is internal to The United States Of America. This is why we have to focus on this in the timing because there's no coincidences of how all of a sudden we're asked to do bombing runs in in Iran a half a world away, and it sucks up all the media attention that you don't even you don't even there's not even a discussion on this, and that's why President Trump coming out and doubling down. And Homan and Stephen Miller, there ought to be three more raids tomorrow, and we gotta get the focus back on that.
Speaker 0: How should you deal with I mean, when Orville Faubus, who was the governor of Arkansas in 1956, presides over the state that refuses to desegregate after the Supreme Court says you have to desegregate in Brown versus Board. And Dwight Eisenhower, who's not a liberal, says you can't ignore federal authority on a federal issue. This is a Supreme Court decision, and he sends the hundred and first airborne to Little Rock, to Central High School, and says, sorry, you're gonna desegregate. Now, whatever you think of that, it's kind of disgusting in certain ways, but it's also essential to preserving the union. I mean, I don't understand, like, how can you have your biggest state being like, no, to the federal government?
Like, what
Speaker 1: On a central issue.
Speaker 0: On a central issue. Who lives here?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: Who takes federal benefits?
Speaker 1: Right. You know? Who's actually a citizen? Who has allegiance to this country?
Speaker 0: Who gets to choose our leadership in a democratic This is
Speaker 1: why this radical neo Marxist Democratic Party will fight. This is the hill they will die on.
Speaker 0: But I don't understand how you can put up with that. How can you put up with that? That's like maybe a little more important whether Iran gets the bomb.
Speaker 1: Well, you can't. By the way, the American people the American people don't. I think it's like sixty forty where they agree with president Trump on these mass deportations. Remember, one of the reasons we're winning the African American vote is president Trump does not believe like the Democratic Party and Kamala Harris in mass incarcerations. He believes in mass deportation.
When I was in prison, the only thing I put up from Danbury was, like, on the August 26. Said, hey. Victory's at hand. I can tell from the prisoners in Danbury, the Hispan young Hispanics and blacks who hate the Democratic Party Yeah. And they particularly hated Kamala Harris.
You guys said, look. The Democratic Party is for mass incarceration to break our families and to make us dependent upon the government. I mean, these guys were smarter than guys going to Yale and the political science department because it's a lived experience of them, and they support mass deportations because in a place like Danbury, 10% of the prison is bad hombres from these other countries that are the most dangerous criminals, convicts you have in these prisons. People at the street level have our back on this. This is this new coalition, but we have to we have to succeed in this.
We have to succeed in the deportations and getting wages to rise. In fact, I think there was just something in the Wall Street Journal. They said wages for low skilled workers are coming up. Yeah. Right?
Because guess what? You have less noncitizens here competing as a people in their own country shouldn't have to compete against a noncitizen for a job. This is president Trump's the centerpiece of the entire Make America Great Again movement, and that's why it has to succeed and everybody now in the official political apparatus is trying to thwart him in this and this is why it's so important for him to go in the deep state is also remember, one of the reasons that DHS is burning through money and there's not as many deportations you talked to to the guys at the White House, talked to guys at DHS, they're still playing by the old playbook. In other words, they have to have a deportation order from a court. They go to a guy's house and make sure there's no kids around.
They take, like, 20 agents a week to go serve on two people and get them out of here. Well, obviously, that doesn't that's the old playbook. You have to get much more aggressive on your deportations. I think Miller and Holman are trying to change the culture over there to actually do it, but even there, the apparatus, it's a the administrative state's got its own mind on how they're gonna do things. I think this is one of president Trump's big battles.
Speaker 0: My last question has to do with, like, the first principle from which these positions flow, which is there's a certain segment of our population, I think the majority who think the US government's job is to help American citizens in America, but there is another very powerful segment, which is most of the US government, that believes the opposite. Ten years ago, I'm on an Amtrak train to New York from Washington for work at Fox, and I get a call from a neocon writer called Julia Ioffu, I think is Russian born Sure. Yeah. Running for the New Republic. And she says to me, and at this point, I'm like she thinks I'm neo con or something, but she's calling me for like, what do we make of Trump?
And she goes, Trump's calling himself a nationalist. She was like way offended. It was just prima facie, like nationalism bad. And I said, well, I'm I'm a nationalist. And she goes, she's not stupid.
And she goes, you're a nationalist? I said, well, I don't know. I think I am. I mean, I like America. I think the US government should work for America.
She was, like, horrified, and I don't think I've ever spoken to her again. Why does that idea, which is nonthreatening, it's not a Nazi idea, it's like a basic idea, was the founder's idea that the US government should act on behalf of Americans. Why is that offensive? So offensive to some people.
Speaker 1: What is it? I'm a tell my Mark Levin story because I I like Mark a lot, although and I think he's one of the smartest guys in the constitution. Although, I will say, I think we're opposed on every big topic dealing with president Trump. Just saying. Because Mark is a neoliberal neocon, and that's what Fox is.
Right? Which is different than Yes. Populism nationally.
Speaker 0: Right.
Speaker 1: Totally different. They're too different. Totally different.
Speaker 0: And I've always got along with Mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And this is why neoliberals this is why neoliberal neocons, the whole Fox apparatus with the Murdochs are, they're much there's just a difference. You know, Gore Vidal said it's just two sides of kind of the same coin run the American empire because American empire is run on neoliberal principles and neocon principles. So Mark, when I kept saying nationalism and populism and nationalism, he calls me up. And as you know, Mark goes, Bannon.
He goes, you gotta drop nationalism. And I go, this is ten years ago, twelve years when I first started doing it at Breitbart and I go, why? He says, it's Americanism. And I go, no, Mark. It's actually nationalism.
Right? And I tried walking through and he goes, no, no, no. It's Americanism.
Speaker 0: And then he puts out a
Speaker 1: book later, I think Americanism, which talks about certain tenets of nationalism, but they don't wanna use that phrase, I think, because of connotations that came from Europe in the nineteenth century and then obviously in the twentieth century. I said, this is this is completely different. It is populist nationalism. It is a populist movement that puts America first and American citizens first. That's the big part of the nationalism they never get to.
That is
Speaker 0: what unites us. But how can they see that as bad? I'm honestly ten years in, I'm baffled by it. Like, what's bad about that?
Speaker 1: You mention that word, they they get lit up. I I have still many people today. People accuse me. Oh, in fact, Ben, and Ben Shapiro is one of the smartest guys in the country. Ben, said when I was running Breitbart when he left, whether he left Arizona quarter or fired him is still a matter of debate.
Still a matter of debate. Ben goes, I turned I turned Breitbart into Trump Pravda, right, with with the populist, net hellism and away from Andrew's court tennis. So listen, that is an ideological fight about nomenclature which is very important in us going forward, but the tenets of it and what we're trying to do I think is what you're seeing president Trump do. We have a government apparatus of these people that when institutions carry on year after year after year and pass the baton and they control and you know many of these people. They most of them come from middle class backgrounds.
They're not they're not coming just from elite No.
Speaker 0: They're not Rockefellers.
Speaker 1: Not Rockefeller. There are some Rockefellers and there's some some Nebo Derby's, but
Speaker 0: They're irrelevant.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Mainly just middle class people.
Speaker 0: Strivers.
Speaker 1: But they're in control of the greatest, most powerful apparatus on Earth, and you mentioned early today the thought of going into war and actually killing people. That's something that turns certain people into the power of it. Right now and that's why I say tell people, when you come to Washington, you can really feel it's a spiritual war
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: Because of the dark specter that hangs over this town. Now that spiritual war manifests itself in money and power
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: And you see so many people I've seen come here in congress and and people I've known that come here and they get corrupted and they get corrupted because that basic human nature of being attracted to money and power is is very tough and that's we're in a situation now that people we admire, people we like, people we've known, we have to go to war with them. This war against this apparatus is gonna be as brutal as the war we're fighting in the streets of Los Angeles today to make sure that actually Los Angeles is part of this American republic because right now California is not, but the major cities in this country led by Los Angeles and San Francisco are definitely not. They're a totally different entity.
Speaker 0: I'm sad that you say that because the last thing I wanna do is spend my day arguing with Ben Shapiro or Mark Levin. I mean, agree with those guys on a lot and I know them, of course. I'm not mad at them personally even now. I don't wanna fight with them. You know what I mean?
I wanna fight with George Soros or something or Gavin Newsom, and but I feel like they are making it impo this is my read, probably self serving, but I feel like they are making impossible to sit back in silence as they wreck the country.
Speaker 1: That fight, as important as that is, to me is a secondary, tertiary fight right now than the fight that we need you on. And the fight we need you on, you have a unique historical understanding of the institutions of this town Yeah. And the smarts. We need a handful of smart people around president Trump. They're saying, this is the look.
We put Cash and Bongino into FBI. We've put Ellis in in Ratcliffe, CIA. We put a handful of great people at DOJ. We put Pete and a handful of great people at defense. We put Tulsi and Joe Kent and a handful of people at DNI.
It's not enough. The apparatus still runs the deal. We are hanging on in a very tenuous shape. We need to go to war like they wanna go to war in in Persia, we need to go to war with them and I mean take the sword out of the scabbard and throw away the scabbard. We have to do that now.
Speaker 0: Damn. If I got anywhere near any kind of institutional power, which I've never sought and I don't seek now, but if I ever did, you know, I think the Tom Cottons and the donors and people like that, I mean, I think they'd I mean, I think that would be really hard. I think they put kitty pore on my computer, I'd get pancreatic cancer. I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: Think First off, just the announcement of that, the intention of that would unmask. We need part of this is going through an unmasking. Who's on our side and who's not on our side because a lot of people that are pretending to be on our side are on the opposite side and we can go through a great unmasking and
Speaker 0: that's why fear is sincerity because I'm hardly the smartest person in DC well, not in DC, but I'm hardly the smartest person in this conversation at all, and I don't think I'm like, you know, have like brilliant, cohesive, philosophical ideas or anything like that. I'm just sort of a bumbling, middle aged, you know, hopefully try to be Christian person. But I'm totally sincere, and that's why they hated MTG, who's also, you know Marginal. Just Right. We've probably got the same SAT score.
You know what I mean? It's like she's not kidding. She's total in that kind of What you see in that chick way where they get mad and they just like start telling the truth.
Speaker 1: What you see
Speaker 0: is what you get. Only women do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah. No. She it it look, she's central to Mecca. Mean, do mean? She's she's been Oh, she's out today
Speaker 0: by Mark Levin.
Speaker 1: I know. She and I don't always agree on everything, but she's a 100% nagging. It's not your question. That shows you the level they're prepared to go to. No.
What you have is which is tough in this town to get is actually historic understanding of these institutions. The only other person, and this would be great if you did it, the only other person I know that has that is Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy has that understanding, obviously, what his family's gone through, but he at a very deep level, he knows the interconnections.
Speaker 0: Good friend of mine. Seeing him tomorrow morning. Steve Bannon, thank you for taking the time to do this. I am grateful and Thanks. Godspeed in this city.
Speaker 1: Thanks. Tucker, it's amazing. I can't wait till you get your appointment.
Speaker 0: Can't wait. Are. You too.
Speaker 1: Be be the first interview on War Room after he gets it. I'm not kidding. When I get hey. I've had longer odds on things than this, so standby.
Speaker 0: Oh my gosh. Thank you. Thank you so
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