TruthArchive.ai - Tweets Saved By @KyleSeraphin
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Kyle Seraphin discusses a surveillance video showing a figure carrying a long, dark object, possibly a rifle wrapped in cloth. He notes the rifle's impact with the ground could dislodge the scope, suggesting it was not securely mounted. He highlights discrepancies between the evidence box and the towel claimed to have wrapped the rifle. Rhiyddun questions the identification of the rifle as a Mauser, while LockeandLoad_SC supports the Mauser 98 identification. Rhiyddun reflects on a similar rifle from childhood, adding context to the discussion.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
🧵A bunch of people to include @ASavageNation have asked about the rifle, and what they believe doesn't add up. The university surveillance cameras seem to show a long item, dark in color, consistent with a towel or cloth covering a rifle as the subject dismounts the building. https://t.co/aYkT943tQp
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Below are grainy screenshots due to the camera distance and the resolution being 1080p. However, if you view where the arrows - key your eye, you'll see what could be the long gun, wrapped in cloth, carried across the roof, down off the building, and to the road https://t.co/DGxEHPPprE
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
The impact with the ground looks like the rifle landed butt first which could dislodge a scope from cheaper scope rings that aren't torqued to handle a heavy ground strike. As the figure crosses the grass, he adjusts this item several times from the left side of his body right.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
The last we can see prior to crossing the road is here. Now watch the video again with your eyes primed to look for this object that isn't an arm or leg, and appears longer and somewhat bulky. Lastly - this was the rifle picture released. It is in a standard evidence box. Not the towel LE claimed to have found it wrapped in. Note the scope is all the way to the rear and the rings are in contact with the front bel and the turret which would not be an advisable position for a rifle/scope like this. To me it indicates the scope slide back, and hard impact is a probable reason.
@rhiyddun - Rhiyddun
@KyleSeraphin My issue was the comment about it being a Mauser.. at a distance, the bolt lever looks curved, but zooming in, it's definitely not a Remington 700, but then neither does it quite look like a Mauser 18... https://t.co/G0O7TwfAHa
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@rhiyddun The claim in the charging doc was Mauser 98. The breach and action look consistent, but the photo release wasnt high quality. I don't see a reason to doubt, yet.
@LockeandLoad_SC - tacticalnerd
@KyleSeraphin @rhiyddun It does indeed look like a Mauser 98, or possibly the shorter 98k. You can just make out the distinctive throw-over safety catch above the breech. A sporterized M98, re-chambered in 30.06 with a cheap scope... It's the ultimate Bubba Fudd rifle, but sadly still did the job https://t.co/SScmkvnlad
@rhiyddun - Rhiyddun
@LockeandLoad_SC @KyleSeraphin Yea, makes more sense thinking about it, how he likely obtained it. When I was real young, my dad had an odd rifle, a .30-06, but instead of a blued barrel, it had a hard baked coating of some sort. It was some Brazilian military rifle.
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I shared details about Special Agent Christopher M. Meyer, who was involved in the Mar-a-Lago search warrant and is now flying FBI Director Patel. Meyer, previously with the disbanded CR-15 squad, was also linked to the arrest of @hw_floyd. Public records confirm his identity and proximity to FBI operations. There are only a few individuals with his name in the FAA registry, and he holds the necessary certification to operate the Gulfstream 550. This raises questions about his transition from investigating the former president to working closely with the current FBI leadership.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
🚨VETTING CRISIS CONTINUES: On Friday, I shared information with a Trump admin official that one of the FBI Special Agent pilots assigned to fly the private jet used by @FBIDirectorKash was THE case agent on the case resulting in the Mar-a-Lago search warrant. 🧵 https://t.co/fJUDqKncVX
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Special Agent Christopher M Meyer was assigned to Washington Field Office squad CR-15 which was disbanded this year due to investigations into @realDonaldTrump. Sources tell me Meyer was the case agent. Meyer is now reportedly flying FBI Director Patel in the FBI's Gulfstream 550.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Meyer was responsible for delivering a subpoena to @hw_floyd (Black Voices for Trump) who was arrested for an assault on Meyer and SA Walter Giardino. Per Politico, Giardino participated in the arrest of @RealPNavarro. Floyd was arrested after being served the subpoena (below). https://t.co/EM9Vt0mLsP
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
The FBI's internal directory lists a "Christopher M Meyer" (Official Bureau name) as a Special Agent assigned to "CIRG," the Critical Incident Response Group which manages, among other things, the FBI's fleet of planes including the Gulfstream 550 the Director travels on. The FAA's Airman Registry lists a Christopher Mark Meyer as living near the hangar the G550 is parked at, and within a short commute to the FBI's Manassas office on Discovery Blvd. The redacted address matches the address of a "Name withheld at request of Owner" notice in the PW County Tax assessor office - a courtesy offered to law enforcement officers in Virginia. These documents are public record, and have no expectation of privacy.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
There are only 4 Christopher M Meyer in the FAA's Airman registry - and Christopher Mark Meyer is the only one with the type certification to fly the G550 AND lives in Virginia. This substantiates multiple FBI sources (current and former) stating Meyer managed to transfer away from CR-15 between the election and inauguration in order to escape consequences. This database is public.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
The involvement with @hw_floyd's case proven by the police report, his name listed in the FAA Registry, the redacted name within PW County's tax registry, substantiates the statements of off-the-record sources within the FBI that Special Agent Chris Meyer went from @POTUS investigator to close proximity to the current FBI Director.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@NoticingSheep @FBIDirectorKash Correct.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@Constan36865676 @FBIDirectorKash Military veteran pilot who applied to be FBI agent. There are other examples. I have worked with several
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@RightWingJewess @FBIDirectorKash @julie_kelly2 There is no reason.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@MattWGraver @FBIDirectorKash @LauraLoomer 😂
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@wm_carney @FBIDirectorKash @FBIDDBongino Bwahahahahah
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@NICUnurse143 @FBIDirectorKash No we don't... he is part of the problem.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@TAttucks @FBIDirectorKash Why?
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@sissy_hat @FBIDirectorKash @LauraLoomer Told who what?
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Kyle Seraphin discusses the ongoing vetting crisis involving Special Agent Christopher M. Meyer, who was reportedly the case agent for the Mar-a-Lago search warrant. Meyer, previously assigned to a squad investigating Donald Trump, now flies FBI Director Patel on the Gulfstream 550. Seraphin notes that Meyer delivered a subpoena to a Trump supporter, leading to an arrest. He provides evidence from public records, including the FAA Airman Registry, to support claims that Meyer transferred to avoid repercussions and is now closely associated with the FBI Director.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
🚨VETTING CRISIS CONTINUES: On Friday, I shared information with a Trump admin official that one of the FBI Special Agent pilots assigned to fly the private jet used by @FBIDirectorKash was THE case agent on the case resulting in the Mar-a-Lago search warrant. 🧵 https://t.co/fJUDqKncVX
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Special Agent Christopher M Meyer was assigned to Washington Field Office squad CR-15 which was disbanded this year due to investigations into @realDonaldTrump. Sources tell me Meyer was the case agent. Meyer is now reportedly flying FBI Director Patel in the FBI's Gulfstream 550.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Meyer was responsible for delivering a subpoena to @hw_floyd (Black Voices for Trump) who was arrested for an assault on Meyer and SA Walter Giardino. Per Politico, Giardino participated in the arrest of @RealPNavarro. Floyd was arrested after being served the subpoena (below). https://t.co/EM9Vt0mLsP
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
The FBI's internal directory lists a "Christopher M Meyer" (Official Bureau name) as a Special Agent assigned to "CIRG," the Critical Incident Response Group which manages, among other things, the FBI's fleet of planes including the Gulfstream 550 the Director travels on. The FAA's Airman Registry lists a Christopher Mark Meyer as living near the hangar the G550 is parked at, and within a short commute to the FBI's Manassas office on Discovery Blvd. The redacted address matches the address of a "Name withheld at request of Owner" notice in the PW County Tax assessor office - a courtesy offered to law enforcement officers in Virginia. These documents are public record, and have no expectation of privacy.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
There are only 4 Christopher M Meyer in the FAA's Airman registry - and Christopher Mark Meyer is the only one with the type certification to fly the G550 AND lives in Virginia. This substantiates multiple FBI sources (current and former) stating Meyer managed to transfer away from CR-15 between the election and inauguration in order to escape consequences. This database is public.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
The involvement with @hw_floyd's case proven by the police report, his name listed in the FAA Registry, the redacted name within PW County's tax registry, substantiates the statements of off-the-record sources within the FBI that Special Agent Chris Meyer went from @POTUS investigator to close proximity to the current FBI Director.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
And just like that - Donald Trump forgot the "First Rule of Holes" (When you are in a hole, put down the shovel) https://t.co/CG6p7AUCjp
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Alleged MN shooter works at two funeral homes 6 days a week, but he worked in DRC (Congo) on food supply projects, and now he owns a SECURITY company? And he was appointed to a Workforce Dev Board by current gov Tim Walz in 2019? Dad of 5? What the hell? https://t.co/b0Xz6pRuYG
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Vance Belter lives in Greenell, Minnesota, and works full-time for Wolf Funeral Home, an intake location for multiple funeral homes and cremation societies. He also works for Metro First Call, handling traditional removals and removals for the Hennepin County medical examiner's office, often involving police and death investigators.
Vance has a wife, five children, and two German shepherds. He spent 30 years in the food industry and was invited to the Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire) to help improve their food supply system, as they import 80% of their food for their 100 million population. Drawing on his experience with farm-to-fork companies like Del Monte Foods and Golden Pump Poultry, he developed promising ideas. When his company wasn't interested, he and his wife decided to pursue these projects independently, focusing on farming and fishing. To support this work, he began working at a funeral home, which led to classes at DMACC and further interest in the funeral industry.
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Speaker 0: Hello. My name is Vance Belter. I just go by Vance. No other names that I use. I live in Greenell, Minnesota, about an hour away from the Minneapolis Saint Paul area.
I'm affiliated with two funeral homes. I work full time for Wolf Funeral Home, which is an intake location for about six funeral homes. And we also do all the intake for the National Cremation Society and the Neptune Society for all their cremation customers as well. So, I mainly do removals at this point. So I work at Wolf full time, and then I also work for another funeral home called Metro First Call.
And they also do traditional removals, at nursing homes, assisted living apartments, but they also have contracts with, medical examiner's office. So, like, one contract is the Hennepin County medical examiner's office, so we'll do removals, which, we're working with a lot of police officers and and, deaf investigators at the location where a decedent is found. Could be a crime scene or just a natural death. And our role is to just take the decedent from that place of death to the medical examiner's office. And so between those two, locations, I'm working about six days a week.
What else here? Family and pets. I have a wife and five kids, and we have two pets, German shepherds. Fun fact about myself, I've been about in the food industry about thirty years, and that led to an opportunity. I was invited to the, Democratic Republic Of Congo, which is located in Central Africa.
When I was in high school, the country was called Zaire. That's a little bit more familiar with people, but it's the largest, largest country in Africa right in the middle in the center there. And was asked a couple years ago to go and see what I could do for ideas in helping their food supply system. Their population is about a 100,000,000 people, and they import 80% of their food currently. So some of the food companies I worked for in the past were farm to fork, like Del Monte Foods and Golden Pump Poultry, where we did everything from at Del Monte, we planted the the products to harvested them to process them and then shipped them out in Golden Pump Poultry.
We had our own hatcheries, grow out barns with the farmers, and then processing plants. So between those two companies, I have some experience with agriculture. And so, over in the Democratic Republic Of Congo, I had some ideas, they thought were pretty promising, which, the company I was working for at the time wasn't interested in doing anything in Africa. So I talked with my wife, and we decided I'd just put in my two week notice, and we just go off on our own to try to do these projects to help out in Africa. So we're doing farming and fishing projects in the Democratic Republic Of Congo.
And to help pay the bills, I just started working at a funeral home because the shift worked good, for my schedule with the other things I was doing. And, that led to some classes at DMACC, which led to this course. So just learning more about the funeral industry. And I think that covers everything, and I will, look forward to seeing you in class, and we'll go from there.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Former FBI Director Chris Wray used these EXACT WORDS, OVER and OVER, to cover over the FBI missteps for 8 years. "Right thing for the right reason in the right manner" - Steven Jensen, J6 warlord (as Domestic Terrorism Section Chief) https://t.co/6qnDf63pum
@ItsYourGov - Oversight Project
Jensen claimed he was the strategic driver of J6 investigations. Jensen, the on-scene commander of J6, said the investigation was totally justified, and he would not do anything differently.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
This guy cannot stay in this job. And people need to be agitating about it.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Former FBI Director Chris Wray used these EXACT WORDS, OVER and OVER, to cover over the FBI missteps for 8 years. "Right thing for the right reason in the right manner" - Steven Jensen, J6 warlord (as Domestic Terrorism Section Chief) https://t.co/6qnDf63pum
@ItsYourGov - Oversight Project
Jensen claimed he was the strategic driver of J6 investigations. Jensen, the on-scene commander of J6, said the investigation was totally justified, and he would not do anything differently.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
So a local judge held a federal agent in contempt for doing his job and arresting an illegal alien. We about to see the supremacy clause in action in Boston? Humbling lib judges seems in Tom Homan's wheelhouse. https://t.co/avheheR78M
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Wilson Martell LeBron was arrested by ICE agents outside the courthouse last Thursday, even before his trial for providing false information on a license application was over. Defense attorney Murat Erkan provided video of the aftermath.
Judge Mark Summerville called an emergency hearing where two state troopers and an assistant district attorney were cross-examined about their knowledge prior to LeBron's apprehension. More prosecutors were to be cross examined, but Judge Summerville cut that short.
The case was ultimately dismissed due to prosecutorial misconduct, with the judge stating that the assistant district attorneys were not involved in LeBron's removal. Judge Summerville found two state troopers and ICE agent Brian Sullivan to be responsible, holding Sullivan in contempt of court.
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Speaker 0: It was a tense and unusual day in court as an assistant district attorney took the stand for questioning. This comes after Wilson Martell LeBron was arrested last Thursday outside of here by ICE agents even before his trial was over. Where are you taking him? New video obtained from defense attorney Murat Erkan showing the aftermath of his client Wilson Martell LeBron after ICE agents took him away last Thursday. Erkan says LeBron was leaving court for day one of his jury trial where he faced charges for providing false information on his license application.
Judge Mark Summerville called an emergency hearing Boston Municipal Court last Friday where two state troopers were cross examined. That continued Monday with an assistant district attorney for Suffolk County taking the stand about what information he knew prior to ICE agents apprehending LeBron in the middle middle of the trial. More prosecutors were supposed to be cross examined, but Judge Summerville cut that short.
Speaker 1: It's a case of violating the defendant's right to be present at trial and confront witnesses against him. Couldn't be more serious.
Speaker 0: Ultimately dismissing the case because of prosecutorial misconduct. Pointing out that he doesn't believe the assistant district attorneys took part in the removal of LeBron. He says two state troopers and ICE agent Brian Sullivan were to blame finding Sullivan in contempt of court.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
ABC reporting that Jonathan Buma has been arrested for printing off internal FBI documents for personal gain and writing a book about his time as an FBI Agent. His story has ALWAYS been bizarre, and his public interviews seemed strange to me. I said so when they went public https://t.co/NYCNkHgiNA
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FBI Special Agent Jonathan Buma states he witnessed suppression of intelligence reporting and experienced discrimination after attempting to present information. He alleges that while his superiors were interested in information potentially implicating the Bidens in business dealings with Burisma, they shut down his attempts to provide information that Rudy Giuliani may have been compromised by individuals suspected of Russian counterintelligence influence operations. Buma says he learned Giuliani received $300,000 from Pablo Fuchs, who had ties to transnational organized crime in Ukraine.
Buma filed a whistleblower complaint, but the retaliation increased, and he received no protection. He claims he was prohibited from reporting on criminal matters, public corruption, or anyone related to the White House or Trump. Buma states he experienced personal attacks and was moved to a squad where he couldn't work sources. He believes the FBI is not an arm of an anti-Trump agenda, but that the investigation into Burisma and the Bidens was prioritized over other leads. Buma says he wants to restore the integrity of the FBI and prevent other agents from experiencing similar retaliation.
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Speaker 0: I didn't want to be a whistleblower. I wanted nothing to do with it. I was at my wits end. I saw important intelligence reporting being suppressed. I started to experience what I believed to be discrimination, character assassination really.
My name is Jonathan Buma and I'm a FBI special agent. When I went and presented to the Assistant Director in Charge over at Los Angeles Field Office, He he he was very interested in the allegations concerning potentially implicating the Bidens and, you know, involved in business deals with Burisma, the company that was involved in alleged criminal activity. He's very interested and he was adamant about packaging that information up and transferring that to the appropriate case agent right away. But during the same meeting, when I attempted to provide information that Rudy Giuliani may have been compromised by individuals suspected of being involved in Russian counterintelligence influence operations, He shut me down and the meeting ended. I came to know that Julian had received $300,000 from Pablo Fuchs, a very powerful businessman who had deep ties with a transnational organized crime syndicate.
He was based in Ukraine. And that was deeply concerning to me, especially, you know, having heard that Giuliani had been working for the president pro bono. My questions that were going through my head were, who does he really work for? I wasn't trying to, you know, implicate Trump or do anything that would, you know, injure his reputation. This reporting implicates Giuliani.
He was the one that was in ongoing contact with foreign nationals and, you know, political activists who received hundreds of thousands of dollars from these sources. And at that time, Joe Biden was not yet the Democratic nominee. I said to my co handling agent, I said to him, why do they keep going back to the Bidens? So what if this is the leading edge of a disinformation campaign to create a theme of derogatory information about the Bidens in anticipation that Biden would be Trump's main political rival. And I started to experience pushback.
All of my reporting came under under really tight scrutiny to the point where I went from getting exceptional performance awards to being told that I was an inconsistent performer and that I had all these administrative I don't have a history of that, thirteen years before that. So it got to the point where it was pretty intolerable. So I filed a whistleblower complaint. All FBI agents get annual training concerning the protected federal whistleblower statute, which says that if you see misconduct in management, then you can file a whistleblower complaint with the inspection division. The managers involved in your chain of command are prohibited from committing any acts that could be considered reprisal or retaliation.
From that point forward, the retaliation actually increased, and I experienced no such protection, and there's never any mention or acknowledgment outside of an automated email response saying we received your information, and a letter that said we received your information. Nothing. No interviews. No anything. An email was sent with a brand new supervisor that specifically prohibited me from doing any more reporting on criminal matters, public corruption matters, or reporting on anyone related to the White House or any current or former associates of Trump.
But then now I started to experience personal attacks, not only suppression of the reporting. My reporting was corroborated already at that point, so if you can't undercut the reporting, you undercut the person. So that's what I was experiencing at that point. And I was moved to a squad where I couldn't work sources. I was sent to basically the Alaska of LA and it put into a position where it would be physically impossible for me to do any more source reporting.
I was never trying to drive the political process in one way or the other. I was only trying to make sure that everybody had all of the information, both sides, so that people could make intelligent, decisions about what they want to do, policy makers or voters or whatever. What chairman Jordan's investigation is alleging is that the FBI as a whole is an arm of the anti Trump agenda, and that's simply not true. There is this allegation out there that the FBI slow played the intake of information and their diligent effort to investigate Burisma and the Bidens. What I saw going on with some of these these hearings was they weren't getting the full story, and I wrote up a statement, went to his office, and I told him, quite honestly, here's what happened.
I think the management cared a lot about it and they wanted a special briefing about it. What needs to be said here is I later started reporting on Giuliani and, I really started to experience some suppression. And at that point, they shut me down, and they said, no. No. No.
We're we're only interested in things related specifically to Biden. I I don't think it's a legitimate investigation. The reason why I came forward is number one, I don't want any other FBI agent to ever have to go through what I've gone through, having their right of protection under the statute completely, blatantly violated. Number two, I want to restore the integrity of the FBI so that people have trust and faith in it. Because if it's gone, public corruption will become rampant and we will things will go to hell in a handbasket in this country real fast, faster than people think.
If the very agency that's charged with holding our public officials and the most powerful people in the world accountable can't hold its own self accountable and becomes corrupt itself, then, this country, things can get bad real fast. You know, it would be the beginnings of a fascist state. If they want to figuratively slaughter me by firing me, they can do that. But I have no intention of leaving. I'm gonna show up for work.
I'm gonna continue to show up for work in the hope of getting a good paycheck like any other American really wants. Hi.
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I received an exclusive notice regarding the removal of FBI employees involved in actions against me. The letter states that their significant roles in prosecuting me have led to a lack of trust from the Department's leadership in their ability to support the President's agenda. Consequently, they are terminated from their positions effective immediately. The notice also mentions the possibility of appealing this decision with the U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board within 30 days.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
🚨EXCLUSIVE: FBI Employees who were involved in the inappropriate actions against @realDonaldTrump have received this notice. "You played a significant role in prosecuting President Trump... Given your significant role in prosecuting the President, I do not believe that the leadership of the Department can trust you to assist in implementing the President's agenda faithfully." See complete notice below👇🏻 Notice of Removal from Federal Service This letter provides official notice that you are being removed from your position at the Department of Justice, and from the federal service, effective immediately. As President Trump declared on his first day back in office, "[t)he American people have witnessed the previous administration engage in a systematic campaign against its perceived political opponents, weaponizing the legal force of numerous Federal law enforcement agencies... against those perceived political opponents in the form of investigations, prosecutions, civil enforcement actions, and other related actions." Nowhere was that effort more salient than in the unprecedented prosecutions the Department of Justice vigorously pursued against President Trump himself. You played a significant role in prosecuting President Trump. The proper functioning of government critically depends on the trust superior officials place in their subordinates. Given your significant role in prosecuting the President, I do not believe that the leadership of the Department can trust you to assist in implementing the President's agenda faithfully. As a result, pursuant to Article Il of the Constitution and the laws of the United States, your employment with the Department of Justice is hereby terminated, and you are removed from federal service effective immediately. If applicable, you may have a right to file an appeal of this removal with the U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) within 30 days of the effective date of the removal action. For more information on how to file an appeal with the MSPB. please visit www*mspb*gov
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
🚨In honor of the FBI STILL sending out leads to agents to investigate people for "offenses on January 6, 2021" aka the "Capitol Siege" case, I'm reposting my audio with the FBI's IA/Inspection Division. After I posted this 2 years ago, they never contacted me again. 🔊Sound on https://t.co/20jlbkt1BQ
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You've got to be heard. When I returned, my boss said I caused extra work and removed me from my squad, despite moving 2,000 miles for this job. I was assigned to a national security squad, given no work for six weeks, and sent into a potentially dangerous situation. This organization feels petty and tyrannical, not looking out for my interests or those of Americans.
I was suspended without pay, complicating everything. I understand the investigation process, but it feels flawed. My experience has been filled with retaliation and unjust treatment. I want to express my side clearly during the interview, but I feel the system is broken. I don't trust the FBI anymore, and I doubt it can self-regulate. I appreciate your understanding, but I need to voice these concerns.
Let’s meet soon to discuss everything in detail.
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Speaker 0: You've gotta be heard. I want you to be heard. Alright?
Speaker 1: You I mean, you just have to understand that when you straight back up
Speaker 0: this process.
Speaker 1: When you get put in on AWOL and the next thing you show up and the first thing your boss says is, you've caused a lot a lot of extra work for me, so I'm glad that they just threw you off my squad. Even though you moved 2,000 miles across the country to come work criminal and you've been read out of the SCI programs, you are now gonna be assigned to a national security squad, given no work for 6 weeks and sent out in the desert for a potential ambush. That's the kind of shit that I saw. And at the end of that, you just go, I don't think this organization is a good place. I think the people who are running it are potentially evil.
They are definitely petty and tyrannical, and they don't have my best interest or Americans at heart. That's my experience of it, and it's very, very poignant. Marilyn, this is Kyle Sarafin. I'm trying to follow-up on the email I sent you.
Speaker 0: Oh, hey. Hi.
Speaker 1: How how are you doing?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Fine. Thanks for calling back. Alright. So, I don't even know if you know how these things normally go.
Speaker 1: I I don't. And the other thing was I wasn't sure if you knew that I was suspended and that they took my badge and my gun on 18th.
Speaker 0: No. I I do know that, and it it's really making things very complicated. And, I mean, I guess it's good that you don't know how these processes go because that a lot of times, the people that do know or they only know because they've, you know, fallen afoul of some of our policies and rules and regulations. Right? Mhmm.
So it looks like you've got that situation. Right? And, what we do, in inspection is, we try and figure out what happened. Right? That's that's what we're we're tasked with.
Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I've always heard you guys are very fair. Yeah, my limited experience of knowing people on the outside. So
Speaker 0: Yeah. This is this, group is populated by a bunch of old timer agents who have seen things, and we approach it with a very sort of pedantic, unemotional, but we don't want to see people in these situations, make things worse.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 0: So it looks like some of the stuff, if if I could just give you some advice, it's normally not what we do, but just calm down. Calm down. Stop moving. Stop all of the activity. You're you're doing a lot of stuff, and it's it's making things a lot more complicated.
Normally, when we're trying to lock down an appointment time to have an interview, it it's a lot less complicated than than what you've made it now. So if you can imagine, by some of the steps that you've taken, you you've made things more complicated. Okay? So just one agent to another, that that's what I'd ask you not to continue doing. Don't make it more complicated.
But, what we do from from my position is that, we're gonna be your voice. We're helping you tell your story. Okay? And we'll have an interview, and, ultimately, we produce a signed sworn statement from you. Okay?
Right.
Speaker 1: And this
Speaker 0: is your opportunity to say, you know, what your experience is, what your truth is, and, we'll try and get you through that unemotionally and, get the facts laid out as they're relevant to the matter at hand. Right? So you had a letter that explained what, we were looking into. K? And we now we keep the scope scope of what we're doing very narrow.
Alright? But with some of the actions that you've taken, you've kinda complicated things. So before I can lock down now with some of the events that have taken place, before I can lock those, the times down, that's for the interview, now we've got some complications. So I'm gonna have to take some steps to, work that out.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: Alright?
Speaker 1: The the first simple question that I had That's
Speaker 0: just making it more complicated.
Speaker 1: Understood. That's no problem. The only question that I was beginning with, which is from my attorneys, was whether or not this is a compelled interview or whether it's a voluntary statement.
Speaker 0: Okay. That's a great question. Right? And, again, you don't know that if you haven't stepped on a landline in your career yet. Right?
Right. So by virtue of you accepting your position with the bureau, these are compelled. Right? And and that's because they want all of the FBI employees to be on the same team. Right?
So we all have to work together to get our jobs done. And and sometimes, you know, people are grieved or what have you. Things they're not they're not seeing it the same way. So we've gotta work through that. Right?
And, that that's what we're gonna try and do. But they you know, as part of your, agreement to work for the bureau, We agree to help the bureau in any, internal investigations. Right? So this is an internal investigation. Right?
Like, just like the letter says that letter that you got. So, yes, by virtue of accepting your appointment to the bureau, you've also accepted to take part in any investigations. They're all compelled. Okay. Internal investigations.
Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then are you tracking that that security division has also compelled an interview on October 12th with me?
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: But but I didn't know that they had locked down a date.
Speaker 1: They gave me 2. Yeah. It was 11th or 12th, so 12th is fine. But they're the ones coordinating travel because, obviously, I have no ability to do that.
Speaker 0: Of October. Yeah. So we give you, like, I gave you that EAN, and you're still on our rules. You know? You're still on our books, and you have a process to get through.
Right? So my job is to help you get through that process.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that that's a that's a false I mean, that's that's kind of a false idea that there's no paycheck. There's no, ability for me to come back to work. And, there was no timeline when I asked about it, which I've I've asked about it to the, to the security clearance division. And they said, tuck in. This could take a really long time, like years.
And I'm not gonna go for years without a paycheck. That's not gonna happen. So I'm not trying to be difficult about it, but I already sold my house. Like, I don't live in New Mexico anymore. I'm no longer I'm no longer gonna be dealing with that division in any way.
And, there it's not a realistic idea that people would go for 5 plus months without a paycheck from an organization that they supposedly work for because that's not what work is. That's that doesn't make any sense. Nobody else thinks that way. And, so I don't I don't I'm not trying to be complicated or difficult, but if you don't pay people for 5, 6 months, they go do other things, which is what I'm doing, whatever that involves.
Speaker 0: Right. I understand what you're saying. And, unfortunately, by again, by that agreement of working for the bureau, you've agreed to enter into this very cumbersome, difficult process. And the reason why it's so difficult and cumbersome is because, you know, we're dealing with people that have access to national security topics. Right?
And because of that
Speaker 1: And and while I totally totally get it, and you sound like a highly reasonable person, so I'm very appreciative of of having that conversation, I did not do anything with anything that's national security related. I worked Indian crime, which is about the least complicated and least classified thing that the FBI does because nobody in America cares about it. And that was the reason why I went there. So when I'm with No.
Speaker 0: I would not agree with that. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: People I mean, it's just it's just not a sensitive subject. Is there are lots of things that are sensitive to the individual human beings, but it's local crime is what we do there. So it's not national security related. It's people hanging themselves and people sexually assaulting their children, which is a big deal, but it has nothing to do with national security,
Speaker 0: which is Actually, it it's it's interesting that you and it's interesting that you think like that, but it's not that that's not reality. It's like a spider's web. If you pull on one part, there's reverberations throughout this, network, if you will, because of the nature of what we do. And it's it's funny, but not funny but it's interesting that, you know, for example, in my career, I've worked with safety, for example. Mhmm.
Safety, you think, well, who cares what you're eating? Right? But even that has to do with national security.
Speaker 1: Sure. That's a that's an infrastructure concern. I I can tie a lot of them back. I can't tie Indian crimes back to it. I I just can't.
And it's it's not for a lack of imagination. I just don't think it's there.
Speaker 0: Okay. Well, we can, we can disagree on that.
Speaker 1: We certainly can.
Speaker 0: That's not what the point is. The point is getting you through this process. Right? And I I understand what you're saying, and I would advise you to, reach out to the security folks and see if you can get that waiver to take on a different job, right, to to produce that additional income. But when you enter into these these, internal affairs investigations, sometimes if you take actions that are because you're frustrated and I can totally understand how frustrating this is.
And I've seen, you know, just great people be crushed by this process. But I'm trying to get you through it as efficiently as possible. But taking certain actions just really complicates things. And because everything is litigious these days, we've just gotta be real careful. And I'm I'm trying to get you through as quickly as possible.
But when you take certain steps, it throws things back, and we have to now relook at this. You know? And and we were not gonna change the scope of anything without notifying you. But when you take certain actions, that's a natural consequence. So if you're aware of all of these policies, you've got training in them ad nauseam when so many of them seem seem like, why do we have to have that training?
Because it's obvious we should not do certain things. But then when you take those actions
Speaker 1: You're you're, you're you're speaking in in information. I I understand you're being very careful about what you're saying and you're and you're speaking vaguely about it. But when we, talk about media contact and discussing things openly that are going wrong in the FBI, which are a significant number of things, The the reason why I have felt free to do so, and this is on the advice of counsel, is that I was given notification that I have been relieved of all my rights, duties, and responsibilities as an FBI agent. And you may have seen what those things said, but that's what they said. And that they said you are free to do what needs to be done.
They also didn't think it was a great plan, but they said if that's where you need to go, if congress needs to hear about it, which they do, and the oversight needs to start happening in the FBI, and we have people that are doing blatant partisan targeting of human beings simply for their religious decisions, which is what's happening as well, then then that's what's gonna get exposed. And so, you know, I'm not shy about it because
Speaker 0: exactly the things that I and the whole infrastructure that I work with, the whole section that I work at, that's what we're fighting for. That's what our work involves solely. But there's a process for things. You have to let these processes happen.
Speaker 1: Well, the process has resulted in me losing probably, what, 50 or $60,000 worth of income for this year so far. So it's not exactly a situation that I can just wait out indefinitely, nor do I choose to. So I I I get it. I understand that you think that it's making it more complicated for me. I think it's making my path much more clear, and I'm not trying to do this in a mean way.
There's nothing mean spirited about it other than I think that the FBI is doing evil things to people who work for the FBI. And there are literally 100 of us that are in the same boat that believe the same way. So I'm I'm merely one person saying it, but there's a reason why you're probably going to see some really nasty things come down about the 7th floor that they shouldn't have been doing, and they're being exposed to congress the way they needed to be. And I imagine they'll probably come into your intake unit if they haven't already. Sexual misconduct and, dealing with subordinates in ways that are unacceptable and all the others that we've been exposing out there that are coming out through the congressional whistleblower process or the protected disclosures.
So I'm I'm not trying to make your job more complicated. I just wanted to see what, you know, our our end was. I really appreciate you having a nice conversation with me because, like I said, you seem eminently reasonable and I'm that's that's the reputation that you guys have out there. I'm also a little disappointed that when I reported to internal affairs that my boss was engaged in what I would believe is misuse of authority by sharing a video of me around that has no investigative purpose that, the FBI handed over to DOJ. The DOJ squashed it, and then now I'm back and forth with it.
Do you know about this?
Speaker 0: I can I can tell you about the process? That that's actually how every single we are mandated to, utilize that process. So the DOJ is given the right of first refusal on all investigations. Okay?
Speaker 1: Totally understood. But you you understand why
Speaker 0: situation.
Speaker 1: Do you understand why is that suspicious?
Speaker 0: That we're not going to investigate it. That absolutely does not mean that.
Speaker 1: Well, what happened is that I got I'm getting investigated by the same thing.
Speaker 0: We are not.
Speaker 1: So I got a letter from investigated. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Make that assumption, please.
Speaker 1: I I got a a letter from the DOJ saying that they shut down the investigation, that they had adopted it, and they had shut it down. And then we appealed it, and they are working that right now. And the FBI's attorneys have argued in literally dozens of pages of filings that the things that I did, and the things that I was alleging have nothing to do with what I say they have to deal with, which is false. It's a completely disingenuous way of arguing because the the the man, Chad Tang, who comes out of the OGC is, I I think he's an immoral actor. He he's a bad faith lawyer on behalf of the bureau.
But the thing that's really interesting is is I made an allegation on 3:15. And on 4:15, an investigation was opened up into me for the thing that I alleged happened, you know, the same exact topic, except on reverse. Now it was my fault. And so that's that's a very difficult thing to square with that it is somehow some sort of fair system that's going on because there's no reason why my super like, have you ever seen body cam footage of a SSA who, you know, wrap their view car around a a light pole? Because I've never seen that body cam footage.
It just doesn't get leaked around the bureau. That's not what we do. So and and nor should we. But the idea that somebody is sharing body cam footage of me around my office is absurd to me because one, it's really boring, and 2, I did nothing wrong, and 3, there's no investigation into me at that point. So why would that happen?
And and then for the
Speaker 0: know that it's very difficult for you where you're at right now to have any faith at all, but you've got to. And the only way to get truth out is to go through these processes. It is the only way, and it does take a while.
Speaker 1: Well, I have I have a lot of faith, but my faith is not in the FBI. I have a lot of
Speaker 0: things that make you look like you've just lost it completely, then it's just gonna look like you've lost it completely. But you're one of us, and I don't want to see an employee crushed by events. I want to see just take a pause and don't do the things that you know to be wrong. As far as our policy and, rules and regulations go, don't be lulled into taking those actions. That's what I would ask you to do.
I would ask you just to bear with this process. And I don't know if, you know, I don't know if everybody's giving you the best advice, but they're you you get through these processes. They are processes.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, here let let me, and and this is me exposing more than I normally would, but, let me just say this. I have no expectation of ever working for the FBI again because I don't trust the FBI as an organization, and I don't think anyone else should either. I think it's an untrustworthy organization full of some really, really good people, and I know some of them, and you sound like you're one of them. But as an organization, for a country that I said it's worth my life to more than once in more than one way, I got stabbed in the back for doing literally nothing wrong. Literally, there was nothing that I have done that's illegal, immoral, or unethical.
That should
Speaker 0: Truthfully is to go through this process.
Speaker 1: No. To to wait to wait 6 months or a year or 18 months for someone to tell me that I was right all along is not a reasonable thing that you ask a father with a 1 year old. That's not what that's not how that works. That doesn't work for that for anybody. Nobody would do that.
No other job with this happening. This doesn't exist in any other private sector or any other way.
Speaker 0: Alternative is anarchy. If
Speaker 1: if No. The alternative is is that this this job whatever,
Speaker 0: but that that's not how civilizations are able to function.
Speaker 1: I don't believe the FBI is beholding to any of the civilizations, the requirement.
Speaker 0: Be give and take. There always is. And then we have this very structured set of rules. And if you know that people are abusing those to then abuse some yourself, you're taking the light off of the things that you're trying to illuminate. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: I think that if you it it sounds like you also know that there's a lot of abuses that happen. And to wait out the process and go, you know, a long time with no income
Speaker 0: It's not to wait out the process. It's to go through the process. Make this happen.
Speaker 1: I can't so I guess the question is this. Because if I was in the situation where I'm investigating another agent whose family's on the line and there's legitimately no real concrete allegations of any wrongdoing, especially nothing that would take a security clearance away, because I've never done anything in my entire life that would do that. So that's a very easy question. I can answer that categorically. But if I was in charge of doing something like that, and there's 13,000 agents, and I can't imagine there's more than 500 that would be under this situation at any given time, I could get these things done almost immediately because that's somebody's livelihood on the line, and it wouldn't take very much for me to just get it done.
That's I'm a fast investigator. I'm a fast thinker. I'm a fast writer. So all these things should have been handled months ago if that was the case, and this is not your fault. This is because they decided to put me in a leave status, without leave.
I mean, without any paycheck. But when when security division revoked my security clearance based on nothing, there is no chance there could have been an investigation into me. And if it was, it would have revealed nothing. So that's a failure on their end.
Speaker 0: Can you can say that.
Speaker 1: No. I know that. I can say it definitively. I'm the only person that's
Speaker 0: Things don't work in isolation like that. You can't just make accusations. Like, they couldn't make accusations against you. Now, you know, for you to just make accusations against them and then take it upon yourself to take actions, that's not correct. You you have to understand that.
Speaker 1: No. I I believe that Jennifer Moore is an is an immoral actor. We have an executive assistant director who is an immoral actor who wrote me a $3,000 cash award for exemplary service months before she decided that I'm an unvaccinated pain who has told them in in no uncertain terms that what I think they're doing is illegal, immoral, and unethical, and that they are following the same path that they teach us about at the Holocaust Museum, which is to say it is a genocidal path to try to force people to do things that are against their religion. And when I stated that, I was on the outs and I was immediately removed in my paycheck the day that I said it. It happened.
That's wrong. And that should have been corrected not by me, but by the organization. But the organization backed people like Jennifer Moore, who are, in my opinion, scum. They are doing scummy things. They are doing awful things, and they should be ashamed of themselves, but they're not.
They're covered. And there's a reason why she just got called to testify in front of Congress as of yesterday. She's gonna have to preserve her papers and justify her actions. And the only way that gets done is people like me telling Congress, in no uncertain terms, that they have failed the American people because they are failing the people inside the FBI. And if the FBI, the people who work there, can't even have their own religious freedoms protected by the organization they work for, the FBI has no claim to the mission statement that it does.
It just doesn't work. It I I don't believe in any way. And I'm really passionate about this stuff. And there's no way that I'm gonna go back and work for a group that stabbed me in the back for doing what I know is correct. What I know is correct.
There's no question about it. And it's been correct since the beginning of this year. This has been going on since September of last year, a full year of this. So once again, it has nothing to do with you personally. Like I said, you sound very reasonable.
I I appreciate your, your, you know, your advice, which sounds to be based in what you believe is correct. And I I just don't agree with you, and I respectfully disagree with you. I don't think that this isn't a good organization, and I don't think it has been for a very long time. And so many retired agents have shared that with me because I spent a lot of time around people who've been If
Speaker 0: you wholeheartedly believe that, then you must be and maintain yourself as someone who will go through the process to prove what you alleged. And that's all that I would hope that you are trying to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're proving it right now because they haven't been able to fire me. There's nothing that would, that would be able to concretely terminate my employment. It's just this phony suspension that we're dealing with. And eventually, that's why I haven't resigned, even though I'm disgusted. I'm absolutely disgusted.
And so many others are too. I gotta tell you, it's literally 100, Marilyn, that talk to me every single day. It's it's a You're
Speaker 0: you're I can tell in your voice and the cadence, you are very, very frustrated. But I'm an old lady. Okay? I'm an old lady go it has, you know, decades in the bureau, and that's why I do the job that I do. Because in order for there to be change but also I'd ask that you be humble and truly look introspectively and look at what's going on and understand where the bureau has to if you get an executive order, you have to follow it.
Right? So
Speaker 1: Unless the executive order is illegal.
Speaker 0: But but that's not for the bureau to say. Right? Because
Speaker 1: Yes. It is a 100% the bureau to say. There was there was is
Speaker 0: what you learned in the Holocaust Museum.
Speaker 1: There was a court order that put an put an injunction on the vaccine mandate almost immediately. And the FBI said we are going to force you to take these, illegal tests because they're under emergency youth authorization only. It's black letter law that you cannot compel these things because they are not they are not, signed into full FDA approval. And so you have to have the consent of the person using them. That's black letter.
There's no question about what that says. And a judge agreed and another judge agreed. And now it's up in front of the end bank review of the 5th circuit, which I paid for that lawsuit. I paid for 4 people to be part of it, and I'm part of another one as well. This is an ongoing process, and the FBI said, we can compel you to take tests because of other authorities we have no further information.
That's nonsense. It's an it's that is a completely lawless position to hold because of the the FBI director does not get to make my medical decisions nor my religious ones. And so that's what they claimed. And if that sounds okay to you, then that's the part of the regime that you're in, but I'm not okay with that. And I and that is 100% what I will stand up for every single time.
Under no circumstances would I agree with that. It's you know, the president is not it doesn't matter who the president is. I don't I don't care about the political party. I've never even registered for a political party until this year, and it's only because my congresswoman was running for reelection, and I wanted to make sure she was in the in the primary. But, there's there's there's no political party that gets to make that decision on our behalf.
That's the point. And they did, and the FBI didn't have to do that. They doubled down on it politically based on what this president has done and what this attorney general has stated and pushed down through our our organization, which should know better and say we can wait out until this is not important. We can just put a pause on it. It'll still be there in a year, whenever the court sorted out.
That is the right answer, but they chose not to. And so that's where we're at right now. And it's left me in a a an untenable position for most people.
Speaker 0: I'd agree with that.
Speaker 1: It's an awful situation to be in. It's not like all I wanted to go do was go and, you know, mop up people that that, had problems on the res and go find out the bad guys, do manhunts for people that were doing bad things to little girls. I'm a 100% capable of doing those things. I was very well suited to
Speaker 0: got we've got very strict parameters. When you join this bureau, you gave up a bunch of freedoms to join this bureau.
Speaker 1: And yet we don't give up any of our civil liberties. None of those things can be forfeited. They can't. The bill of rights does not get forfeited because we've just signed up for a government job regardless of whatever the nonsensical legal. I don't even think they could enforce the Hatch Act.
They've tried, but there's very, very few people that have ever been prosecuted for that for a reason, because it doesn't really, you can't give up your freedoms of speech. You can't give up your freedoms of association or religion. You don't give up those civil liberties.
Speaker 0: Freedoms are impinging on others' freedoms to come to work and not be bombarded with political stuff. Political stuff has become crazy. Right? So that Hatch Act, I think, you don't see the prosecutions because people actually adhere to the rules.
Speaker 1: I disagree. Did you not did you not see the life size cutouts of president Obama while he was president and running for office? Because they were in many offices. I went down I saw over 20 field offices traveling around with SOB.
Speaker 0: His 2nd term, he was not again running for office. So it would have been perfectly acceptable. I I know it sounds like a loophole, but if the president
Speaker 1: becomes a historical figure at them. No doubt.
Speaker 0: Now it's election time. They're allowed to put up full size, but they could do whatever they want with his effigy because or image because, he's not running. The Hatch Act is about the people who are
Speaker 1: running for partisan office. I totally get it, which is why I've never had any problems with that. I've never been involved in anything along those lines. It's never been the case. And any allegation otherwise is false.
Having a picture of Ronald Reagan at my desk who's riding on a dinosaur, because I think it's funny because I think dinosaurs are funny and I think Ronald Reagan's great. And I think him holding an Uzi is amusing. That's, that is not a political statement.
Speaker 0: Though that somebody complained about a picture that you had of Ronald Reagan at your desk?
Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Oh.
Speaker 1: Because because we're we're living in a world where we have FBI contractors coming in and fixing the TV on one political party's show, which is CNN, which is a Democratic talking point. It's in every single skiff. And I don't mind that we listen to Democratic talking points. I listen to all the talking points. I listen to Fox.
I listen to MSNBC. I listen to CNN. None of these things matter. We should be looking at those as a national organization to know what's going on in the world because everybody covers different stories. But there's only one, and the remotes are hidden by people who don't even work for the FBI.
And they're the ones out there making these decisions in the little office that I was in, and it was the same in Washington field. It's the same in every single skiff I've been in. They all have CNN on 100%. And I used to think that some of the shows they did on there were, were satire. I didn't actually think they were being serious, and then I realized, oh, no.
That's actually what they're talking about. This is a wild. This is literally how they speak about the sitting president or, you know, this this presidential election cycle and so on. And they are absolutely engaged in a Hashtag violation by putting that on. Whoever put the TV on is the one who did that.
And that happened all the time. So we we're in this really strange world. I see
Speaker 0: what you're saying. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's pervasive. And and there's a reason why it's literally, I watch eyebrows raise when I speak to members of Congress's staff and say that CNN is on in every single SCIP I've ever been in. And I've been in a bunch. It's it's like it's like, why why would that be the case? It's like, I don't know why it's the case.
It's just that's the political lean of the people who write in them.
Speaker 0: I'm a scientist, so I could say, you know, because there's generally 2 channels. You got 5050 chance of that one being on.
Speaker 1: Well, when it's a 100% of the time times 20, then that, you know, that's not the coin flip that you expect in your basic probabilities. That's just not how probable works.
Speaker 0: Yeah. But if to talk about probabilities, then it's, you know, what is the cycle of your activity in front of the screen that means
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of excuses we can make about it. Pay or
Speaker 0: work for 10 hours.
Speaker 1: No. There's a lot of excuses we can make, but there's a lot of questions.
Speaker 0: Work for 5 days a week for 10 hours in the office, you know, it it throws in all kinds of, like, what if every time you walked out the door, they switched it to Fox?
Speaker 1: And yet they didn't.
Speaker 0: You know? I mean, like, you can't, scientifically, you can't say that it's always you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: I would agree with you other than the fact that I I know people who are in the office the entire time the office is open, and that's not the same.
Speaker 0: Having a a mental
Speaker 1: Yes. You I mean, we can we can do all kinds of interesting experiments, you know, theoretical thought experiments about it, but that's not what happens. And, and we both know that. It's just, that's what's fixed and blocked on the television. In fact, the remote is only sitting on one person's desk and that's her preference.
That was in Las Cruces. It was the same thing when I was in Washington field on multiple different floors. So that's just what goes on. And in the nineties, I would agree with you. It's like, okay, great.
Speaker 0: Most importantly, how's everybody at home? Is everybody getting over the flu?
Speaker 1: They're all still sick. Everybody, I got, I got 3 coughing kids. I got a wife who still feels achy, and I've had a sore throat for 10 days that I can't shake even though I'm on antibiotics. I'm on steroids as well.
Speaker 0: You're on adrenaline too. Holy cow. That's it's gonna take a toll on your health. Don't let this
Speaker 1: Well, that's too late. I'm on the I'm hopefully on the rebound from my health thing. I I took a a major plummet because I sold my house. I moved my family into an RV. We drove across the country and I did, you know, 5 different airports as well during that week.
So I'm some of it's obviously self induced. But yes, I am trying to heal and not be indefinitely sick because it's it's not helpful for what I'm doing. But it's, it's I'm not trying to avoid anybody talking. I just don't wanna get anybody sick or travel sick. There's no reason to do that.
There's a a long time I've been a paramedic at this point, over a decade, and I can be trusted to not, you know, go share public health crisis. It doesn't need to be done. So so I'm doing my best to do that as well. Anyway, we I'm I'm hap I mean and I'm more than happy to have this conversation over a Zoom call. My my attorney said that would be just as easy.
It would probably be nice and simple for us. They do it for marriages, and they do it for court appearances. So it it would save me the it would save me the flight.
Speaker 0: Lot more, you know, going on here. And, with the propensity to put things out in the media, we're gonna stick to the in person, 1 on 1 meeting when when we have our discussion. Right? When we do our interview for your statement.
Speaker 1: Do you do you wanna try to align it with that same time that, security division is doing whatever they're doing?
Speaker 0: That would be my you know, to the whole thing is we're trying to make this as I know you're going to laugh, but we're trying to make it as little stress on you as possible. And if we can get you out here and everybody can talk to you at once, we'll do that. Security has a they're different than us. Right? They've got different, things going on than we do.
We're looking at a at a narrow scope of an accusation, and that that's all it is. It's an accusation. Right? So we're gonna get a statement about that. But with all this other stuff going on, we're gonna take things into consideration.
I don't know how it's all gonna pan out, but we'll eventually sit down and talk. Right? And when you and I sit down and talk, we'll have everything laid out for you, like the paperwork that you already have. Right? And we'll we'll try and really stay on point.
But this is your statement, your signed sworn statement. Ultimately, this will be yours. Right? So if there are things that you wanted to talk about that we can relate back to what has happened and what the allegation is, well, then we'll talk about that. Okay?
And so we will have a very unemotional so that you can lay it all out. Right? We'll have a nice logic logical, flow in a statement. And if that statement's really long, the statement will be really long. Okay?
But I I do hope that we get a chance to sit down and and talk about all this. And, but if we do, it might they're still trying to decide if we can physically do it simultaneously with Sept d or if we have to keep it separate. The last I heard was they're wanting to keep them separate. So I I was just surprised that you locked down a date. Did you lock down a date with SECD, or did that that's just something that they
Speaker 1: proposed to? They proposed 2 days. I said they could have the second one. I I mean, it's it's all the same to me. Assuming assuming I get, clear of this illness, which right now it's been lingering for quite a while and it's bothering me for, you know, 10 days.
So I'm hopeful that in another 10 days, it will not be here, because it's it's long enough as it is. But they offered the 11th and 12th. They said that they would coordinate the travel arrangements through the, through my former CSO. And and that's agreeable. That's fine.
So so I'm I'm happy to be out there. And if it's you wanna extend it to another day beyond that, then, you know, less flying away from my family is preferable. I am Uh-huh. I'm less interested in leaving my wife again for this stuff.
Speaker 0: And it
Speaker 1: has been plenty of stress as it stands. And and, you know, at the end of the day, I don't really care about the outcome of working for the FBI because that's not what this was ever about at this point. Like, once we got to the point where it no longer mattered, which was when they said that you no longer have a paycheck and we are going to we're going to take your we're going to take your authorities, your badge, your gun, your credentials and your access to the space despite there being nothing that would actually justify that. Like, we know for a fact that guys have gone out and dealt drugs on duty and still have FBI access. There's a guy in Helena, Montana who was recently removed from his job, who was beating and stalking his ex, and arrested by the state police, and he remained on the job for 2 years after that.
There is nothing serious that anybody can allege about my behavior that would that would be anywhere near or comparable to those things. And yet instantly, my badge and my gun were gone. So this was always politically motivated. It was always gonna be a hit job on it. And so I had zero faith in it.
I your process is your own.
Speaker 0: I have to tell you, I I disagree with that because they would have to get people like me in that camp. And that's No.
Speaker 1: They did it was just the SAC. He just kicked me out because he's a political hack because he's a coward. And I told him so, unfortunately. Like, I just told him. I was like, you know, you should be shamed this.
This is a shameful action you're engaging in. And if you don't know that, then then you shouldn't even hold that that badge. There's so many people that have decided to go along and get along in this organization, and they all come and make apologies for their own behaviors to me over and over again. I have a lot of friends that retired. I have friends that retired over what's happened in the last 2 or 3 years, but they've told me basically since I signed up, it has gotten to the point where it is a snowball that is just running out of control down a hill.
And I know that you see some of those things because you've been there long enough. A lot of these people had 30, you know, 30 years in, 28 years, 27 years experience. My my close friend just called me and told me 27 years as an FBI agent. And he said, I no longer wake up and feel proud to be an FBI agent now, and it's one of the saddest things that I've had to experience. To me, that's absolutely gut wrenching.
And I'm absolutely ashamed for all the people that made it happen like that, but that's where we're at. We have a lot of really disappointed people and a lot of legacies that we're trodden on from from good work for a long time, and I'm not ignorant of those things. I'm just disappointed that so many other people are willing to just cosign on a bunch of evil behavior. And and I mean it. Like, in in no uncertain terms, do I mean it?
Or
Speaker 0: argue with you on that. We are not. I am not. I am in this job because of the same fire that is in your heart. It's the same thing that has me in this job, this particular job.
Speaker 1: And I think that's great. I'd I'd like I said, I'm not taking anything away from any individual. It's the aggregate. It's the aggregate, and it's the it's the perception that America holding that perception. And if you've gone out and done street interviews, you know.
Speaker 0: If you go around and tell them that we're a big pile of nothing, or worse, then, yeah, they're gonna go, oh, I see that. There's an FBI agent that's saying it's it's crap. There's nothing left to believe in. And don't you think that our adversaries want to just hug you for what you're saying and what you're doing in the undermining of America's faith in the only piece of infrastructure of government that is there to protect the American people?
Speaker 1: No. I don't I don't think that I don't think the enemy I don't think the enemy has any in interest in what I'm about because what I'm I'm I'm I'm such a small symptom of what's going on right now. We we rated we put up a search warrant into the sitting president's house. Like, people have have lost their flipping minds. We have done things like pick up a man who was a a Catholic street preacher, and he was a father of 7, and he was defending his son.
If someone came up and said the things to me in front of my children that they said to that man, I don't know if that person would still be breathing at any age. I would thrash them within an inch of their life. And all he did was push them out of the way and said, please stop talking to my son like that. And we went and arrested him. And I got it.
They probably got a bunch of probationary agents who needed to get an arrest, and they sent 25 people to his door. But that is absolutely confirmation. Like, the FBI doesn't need me to bad mouth them. They're bad mouthing themselves every single day for years. We had fake FISAs.
We had so many disgusting practices that happened, and we had so many awful human beings working in the office that I was at. I had Peter Strzok's name on my case files when I first inherited them as I started my first day on the job, and I had Andy McCabe signing off on cases that I had, and they were dog shit. They were absolutely garbage. They were just investigations into Americans that had no allegation of wrongdoing. And when I tried to close them, they wouldn't let it even happen.
They said, well, you have to keep it open so you can keep papering your file. So you have something for file review. That is a broken organization. Like, it doesn't matter what our our I I It's broken. It's so broken.
Speaker 0: How I
Speaker 1: You can't you can't have an organization that's investigating Americans that didn't do anything. That's true.
Speaker 0: Of the years that I've been with this agency, I've not seen anything like that, and I'm just really shocked that you're
Speaker 1: It was my first it was my first day.
Speaker 0: Short career, you've had exposure to things like that.
Speaker 1: It was literally the 1st day. The first eight cases they gave me were all trash. They were all investigations in the people for nothing. They were CI investigations. And when I went like, I read the file the 1st day, and I was like, this guy was just lazy on his SF f 86.
Like, why do we have an investigation? Why is it a code name investigation, a CI investigation to this guy? Can I go just talk to him? Well, no. He can't do that.
It took a full year before I could close the thing down, and it was always what I thought it was. He goes, I was just lazy when I filled out the the background check because I didn't care. And I was like, yeah. I know. You're from San Diego.
You're you're a surfer, bro. He was a surfer, bro. End up
Speaker 0: and be part of the solution.
Speaker 1: I did. What what there's no solution when you're a when you're a, you know, a GS 11. There's no solution.
Speaker 0: All start off as they all start off as GS, what, tens. Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah. A GS 11 is not gonna fix. It's a bunch of broken fifteens and SESers who the entire culture and the entire Washington field culture is disgusting to me. It's nauseating. When you watch the lady who weighs a £150 more than an FBI agent her size should weigh, she drops a knee for BLM and she gets promoted to unit chief and then ASAC to a criminal branch when she's never worked a criminal case.
It's so the fix is in. It's too like, we already lost. The people that cared about what the FBI were about, they already lost. I don't know if it can even be salvaged. And so many people are saying that because it's true.
Like, whether it be in congress or in the news media at this point, like, America already gets it. The bureau lost the thread. They picked a side, and I don't even know why we have to pick a side ever, but we did. And so we lost. I I don't think there can be an FBI at this point, like, honest to god.
And if you didn't see that, like, it's okay. But I watch You cannot I mean it.
Speaker 0: Cannot say that and think that our adversaries are not going to grab hold of that. Please don't say that. I don't think and I think this is where your youth is working against you. To say something like that is so detrimental to this country as a whole, a country bigger than the FBI, bigger than the Department of Justice. It's the entire country.
And, yes, we are in wars with, with adversaries that would just love for you to keep saying that and put that out in as many news channels as possible so that the whole of the American public loses faith in the only piece of infrastructure that is there specifically for them and their rights. So I just would ask you to be
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's not my public opinion. That's my personal opinion, and it's been shared to me. Like, the same opinion has been shared by 100 of FBI employees that it might have to be completely rejected.
Speaker 0: Kind of like, you know, when you you get angry with the sibling and you can say nasty things about them, but but, beware to the other person that's not related to you that comes in and tells you that your sister is horrible. Then you'd be like, hey. Wait a second. I can say that, but you can't say that. You know what I'm saying?
No.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I think they're entitled to their opinion. Undermine this country. I I don't think it undermines this country. I I I honestly don't.
Speaker 0: Really think hard before saying anything like that.
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about me saying that publicly. That's not something I intend to say publicly. It's something that I personally am very, very upset about. I'm very conflicted because I, just like you, at some point, we both stood up and said, this is a job that I wanna do. I think that there's value there and there's something good that can be done.
I don't believe that anymore. Not even close. And I understand that you still do, and I respect that too. I'm not telling anyone else what their opinion ought to be. I just know that there is no chance that the FBI, as it stands right now, can regain my trust because it betrayed me as an organization, because there was absolutely no reason for what happened to me.
It was immoral. It was wrong. It was wrong from the beginning and it was always an overblown reaction to something that should have been something that we relish. The entire point of our of our training going through this, the Holocaust Museum piece, was that if you see something wrong, you were supposed to say it. And guess who also gave executive orders that were immoral and illegal?
Like, the Nazi party wasn't just out there making things up without having the force of law behind it. Of course, they had the force of law. That's what the I mean, Germany in the thirties was wrong as an as an institution. Right? And so the things that we are seeing, they may never get there.
God, I hope they don't. Like, I literally pray that they do not at night, but it doesn't mean that I don't think they might not because we've set some really scary precedents in the last two and a half, three years. And when I saw stuff happen that nobody did anything about, on one side of the aisle, a left wing group of organizations that were burning churches and beating up my friends and throwing bricks at their heads, and we didn't go and arrest them like a like a bunch of, you know, like the they they did in the thirties with the gangs, Why did that not happen? But immediately afterwards, we've thrown everything in, and we have 3 full ridiculous squads over at Gallery Place that are investigating January 6th, which was a joke of an experience. Like, it may have been a scary moment for a few seconds, but it had nothing on the nights that were out there going on in Portland.
Nothing. Not even close. You know? I watched those people take over the entire city. The downtown looked like Beirut.
They had broken every single glass that that was available, and then all those all of the local businesses were just paying homage to this, like, occupying force, putting up spray paint all over their buildings. And in the meantime, where's the FBI in that? Where where was our our big strong response? And it wasn't there. It was just
Speaker 0: But we were turned away by the state government and
Speaker 1: There's a supremacy clause that says it doesn't matter when it comes to federal property. And it did matter. We gave up and we didn't do our job. And when I got there, the first thing they briefed my SOG team when I got to Portland was, this is Portland. Antifa is an idea, and we really love our activists in this city.
That was an FBIIA who was in charge of the, command post for some reason. And he was out there briefing all these teams. It's like, why am I here then? If we're not gonna do investigations into federal crimes, like, why are you wasting my time? Why did you fly me away from my family in the middle of a so called pandemic?
And they did it over and over again for all these stupid, you know, BS cases that never materialize, the so called threats to this country that just don't actually happen. Because the real threats get through because we don't know about them, and we let them through when they came in from Afghanistan. Because I was at the refugee camps. I've never spoken about it publicly, but I saw tens of thousands of Afghans come in. And I watched dozens of them raping little boys that we had to pull them out, and we didn't go prosecute those guys either.
We let them into America. We let dozens of little boy rapers into this country because they were CIA assets and they had they had worked with American forces at some point rather than throwing them out on their ass and leaving them somewhere in the Middle East. So there there's a lot of broken things that happen, and it's just it the there the volume of it is so extreme. There's literally no way I think that you could say that the FBI is not without absolutely filthy hands in all of this. It's been complicit, and it's been part of it.
And so, you know, whether or not the it doesn't matter what the enemy thinks. American the American public already knows this. Like, half this country has zero faith in the FBI because of what the FBI has done, not because of what Kyle Sarafin has done. It's completely irrelevant to me. Like, they don't care what I say.
They already knew it. They're watching people get arrested in political parties, like some Banana Republic third world garbage, and I can't believe that we got part of that. Like, I never signed up to be part of that. I'm sure you didn't either. You sound like a principal human being.
It's It's just nauseating that so many people's legacy just got trod on, like really good people, men and women who just stood up, said they wanted to help, investigated crime because there was information that there was crime to be investigated, not that they investigated people and found out what crimes they could find on them. And that's where we're at right now. So many agents have told me that they used to just find the crime and look for the person, and now we look for the person and find the crime, which is awful. It's just awful. And I know you you sound like you have a different experience.
I'm just telling you, it's it's out there and it's pervasive. And people may not talk about it at headquarters, but it happens in the field office every single day. If you get 3 agents together from different field offices, the first thing we'll talk about is how broken the FBI is. Every single one of them will.
Speaker 0: That's I mean, I go on fishing trips. The first thing you do, you get together and you talk about how jacked up the last captain was, took you to the wrong place. You know what I mean? Like, that's just human nature.
Speaker 1: I've worked in jobs where that's not the case. That's not the case in every single place, unfortunately. Of course,
Speaker 0: it's not the case in every single place. I mean
Speaker 1: Well, it can't be the case in the so called premier federal law enforcement agency. It just can't. It cannot be the way that it continues and have this country stand on its 2 feet. It's not gonna work. We're gonna have a break.
And you're like, I'm just I'm really fearful that the FBI is literally pushing all the buttons to make it worse. That's what it looks like from the outside. And it looks like they've hit the gas pedal in the last year.
Speaker 0: And I would argue to you, when you see that and you totally believe that is happening, that's when you have to stand firm and say, okay. This is the you want me I can do this. I can do this. I can have this fight, and I can have this fight in a weird way of fighting. But that's what I'm I'm talking about.
You need to
Speaker 1: You yeah. I mean, you're you're operating under but
Speaker 0: on somebody else's territory. So
Speaker 1: No. You're you're operating under the belief the FBI can police itself. I don't think it can.
Speaker 0: Those rules into your head. You know how to have these fights. You know how to have these arguments. You know how to have your voice heard. There's a way
Speaker 1: We did process that. Is the this is the question that was asked.
Speaker 0: Is supposed to then it will, but you gotta give it a chance to work.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I don't believe that the DOJ or the FBI have any ability to internally regulate themselves. That's the problem, and that's the whole point of what I've been saying, I think. And I you and you and I will have to agree to disagree on that. Like, you're seeing a very different process.
In a minute circumstances, there may be small actions that could be corrected. But as a culture, it is flawed. The people that we promote to the top are garbage, unfortunately. It's really, really disappointing to me more than anybody. I don't like seeing bad leaders.
I don't like seeing terrible management, but that's who's up there. And I've watched them be terrible managers and then get promoted because they call they all run through Washington Field. Everybody that's at the top of the 7th floor right now, they all run through Washington Field at some point. That's what they do, and they're garbage. They they're just they're not they they are people that are not interested in the same sort of principles that it sounds like you and I have.
So I'm ashamed of it, and I know a lot of other people are too. I don't speak in a vacuum. But, anyway, one way or another, you and I will have another nice conversation. I'm I'm certain of it.
Speaker 0: So we
Speaker 1: can and we can have a long term statement.
Speaker 0: Be a long conversation. Now I'm realizing it might be a long conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, unfortunately, I have a lot of, like, things that were retaliatory that happened against me, and they're all my CEO complaint. And you're welcome to you you're welcome to have access to it, I believe.
Speaker 0: And and and remember, the things that you have to the the process starts by you writing things down. Right? You gotta write everything.
Speaker 1: Things need
Speaker 0: to be submitted and writing.
Speaker 1: They were all written down. They've all been accepted as there's there's 12 retaliatory actions that the that the EEO has accepted on my behalf, and it does nothing to stop me from having no paycheck and no authorities and leaving my home and and taking my kids away from their friends because that's what just happened. And it's and it all happened in a like, in an insane string of things. Like, every 2 days, something new would happen to the point where one of the times, a good friend of mine out of DC called me and said, I don't want you going and following that order because they asked me to go out into the middle of Hidalgo County in New Mexico where we have arrested and or seized physical assets from the only police department in the entire county. It's a 3,000 person county that stretches across 38 100 miles.
And they said, I don't want you driving out there. I'm afraid they're setting you up for a hillbilly ambush where someone's gonna try to kill you because we've been told we can't go out there solo to go and talk to anybody because the police force there is hostile to us, and that's a fact. And I was sent out there with no rifle because they it's confiscated my rifle, and it's like, luckily, I have my own personal body armor and, you know, plates, and I wore freaking plates like I was driving out into Bagram or driving off the airbase, and I carried my own rifle. And I went out there and I did what I was asked to do, which was absurd because we let me do they sent me into the desert in the middle of nowhere to go see if we found any spies or terrorists because that's the squad that I was on, even though I didn't have an SCI read in. And so these kind of things, when someone sets you up in a place where your friends are like, I think you might actually be getting set up to be killed, that changes your
Speaker 0: Somebody somebody actually said that to you, and I hope that you've, like, submitted that as
Speaker 1: It's one of the retaliation claims in my EEO. Yeah. Of course. All of these things are in there. Okay.
Right? So my my You've gotta be heard.
Speaker 0: I want you to be heard. Alright?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you just have to understand that when you show back up this process. When you get put in on AWOL and the next thing you show up and the first thing your boss says is, you've caused a lot a lot of extra work for me, so I'm glad that they just threw you off my squad. Even though you moved 2,000 miles across the country to come work criminal and you've been read out of the SCI programs, you are now gonna be assigned to a national security squad, given no work for 6 weeks and sent out in the desert for a potential ambush. That's the kind of shit that I saw.
And at the end of that, you just go, I don't think this organization is a good place. I think the people who are running it are potentially evil. They are definitely petty and tyrannical, and they don't have my best interest or Americans at heart. That's my experience of it, and it's very, very poignant. From, like I said, 12 documented accepted EEO complaints of retaliation that are so in line, they just follow systematically.
Like, the insanity of it is beyond it's beyond any logical fact pattern you could look at. It's just it's undeniable what was going on, And and there's a reason why they accepted everyone. The woman who did my EEO complaint said, I have literally never seen this many retaliations categorized before, and I cannot believe that there are still more going on. And they and it's like, sorry. Here comes another one.
We just kept shoving it
Speaker 0: back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's it's not right. It's not a good place. And so if you don't have access to that EEO complaint, please grab it. I'm sure you can get it.
Speaker 0: Well, we're separate from EEO. That's the other thing. These are different processes.
Speaker 1: They are, but they have they shared it with OGC and they shared it in the open court. So
Speaker 0: You can provide me with that. You could provide just read that the the paperwork that they gave you with this allegation. There are,
Speaker 1: I'll send you the I'll send you the sworn sworn statement. It's a 17 page.
Speaker 0: You're allowed at any point, you can provide to the investigator anything that you feel is relevant to, to the allegation.
Speaker 1: No. Because the so, Marilyn, the problem is Anything
Speaker 0: is relevant, you go ahead. You can send me something that you want to incorporate, and we can reference it in your statement. Okay?
Speaker 1: Do do you know that I don't even know what the allegation against me is? They're just No.
Speaker 0: No. The the one for me, I have a it it's there's one allegation, and it's in the paperwork, the letter that you signed. It's right in the sort
Speaker 1: of top of the letter that you signed. Yeah. It says I was unprofessional to a police officer in my cohort. That's it. Is is that correct?
Speaker 0: That's that's it.
Speaker 1: That but that's not a that's not a specific anything. Like, the only time I've talked to a cop was on body cam. I assume you have that footage or do you not? Yes. You have.
The the footage speaks for itself. So that's a case closed. That's the end of it. There's there's literally nothing there. We nobody can argue otherwise.
I've showed it to dozens of law enforcement professionals, state and local and federal. Nobody knows what would be wrong with that. It was a professional interaction, so that's a case closed. So if you're still investigating that, that tells me the process is flawed. I'm just saying.
Speaker 0: No. That's the
Speaker 1: There is 0 there is 0 there's nothing derogatory. We'll we'll
Speaker 0: talk about it, and then I think that you'll understand what we have to do, what we have to go through. Alright? And then we'll we'll talk through the whole thing. Okay? And I believe that you will understand a different perspective, but it that does not, you know, that doesn't wipe away your perspective, and that's the whole point of this statement.
It'll be you're going to make a statement about what you did, what you knew, why you did it, and then that's your chance to explain the entire interaction.
Speaker 1: And wouldn't you think that should have happened before I was suspended considering how innocuous and the guy didn't even write a report? It wasn't even important enough for him to generate a report because it he doesn't know my name. I know his name because it changed my life dramatically even though it was nothing. It was nothing that happened. So that tells me the process is not a good faith action on behalf of the FBI.
It's nothing against you. It's just the FBI in general is not acting in good faith. That is a bad faith action. Because when the cop walks away and says there's nothing there, when he admits right up front he doesn't know what his jurisdiction is, nor does he know the state law governing the interaction that we're having, that is the end of it. Because as FBI agents, if we were for if we just politely tell somebody what the, state law is governing the interaction we're involved in, if we can't do that, how does any normal citizen who's not armed and doesn't have any authority set?
How do they deal with that? It's a really, really scary slope for me, and I I under there's no circumstances that I am willing to cede territory to a local cop who doesn't claim to know even what's going wrong. There's no judgment call in here at all. Like, there's none. And I've got plenty of evidence.
I'll send you I'll send you the pictures of where I was standing. The man and I were standing on top of shotgun shells while we were speaking on that that body cam footage. Shot like 1,000 of them. I'll send you pictures if you'd like. I walked out there.
And the drive
Speaker 0: Let me just leave you with this. Think about why that guy went out there.
Speaker 1: He self dispatched. Did you read like, did you get the radio reports?
Speaker 0: Yeah. But do you know why he went out there?
Speaker 1: Because they were shooting.
Speaker 0: What about shooting was disturbing?
Speaker 1: Nothing. It's New Mexico. There's there's No.
Speaker 0: That there's He's not. He came from a high school. Right?
Speaker 1: The high school is a half mile in the other direction, and it's it doesn't it it's irrelevant. Like, it's absolutely irrelevant.
Speaker 0: Again, I'm a scientist. Wind direction, the lack of moisture in the air makes sound travel. And in that situation, sound was traveling, and it didn't just sound like it was far away. Right? So that gentleman was dispatched, and then he's just asking you
Speaker 1: He's asking me to do something. He's asking me to do something that is outside of his legal authority to do. So as far as I can tell, could have opened a civil rights investigation under color of law because he was purporting to have authorities he didn't have. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 0: No. At least I did see the body cam. So no. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the authority to ask that under New Mexico state law.
Speaker 0: Ask anything. You can ask anything. It's United States. Right.
Speaker 1: But he but no. But he's a law enforcement officer, and he
Speaker 0: He wants you
Speaker 1: to do anything. But he's purporting to have the authority
Speaker 0: to do so. No. I I don't
Speaker 1: think he did.
Speaker 0: He said, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you to do something else, and I said, respectfully, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm not gonna be able to do that. And I didn't. Because we have a second amendment right to bear arms, number 1, and we have a state law right in the in in New Mexico.
Speaker 0: Right to do a whole lot of things, but does it make it the right thing to do?
Speaker 1: If I am legally doing something in a place where I'm legally allowed to do it, then yes. Then that's always gonna be acceptable in this country. It's
Speaker 0: not about it being acceptable even, and it's acceptable from one person's perspective
Speaker 1: No. It's legally acceptable. There's this distinct. Yeah. There's there's no there's no citation.
There's no force of law behind anything he said. It was 2 people talking about something, and he said, if I have any further issues, I'll send the supervisor to come chat with you. And I agreed.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was the end of that. So that interaction is a non interaction. It was polite. It was courteous. It was 2 professionals.
Somebody who knows a lot more about firearms law than the guy who I was talking to. I'm a I'm a massive advocate when it comes to that civil liberty. And so there was under no circumstances was I gonna cede that territory, not just for me. It had nothing, like, very little to do with me specifically, but for my friends who like to shoot, who live in New Mexico, and it's a different world, like you live in I assume you live in DC, and I don't know if you've ever lived out in the west, but public land is a very different animal. And so our public land states like New Mexico and Wyoming and Idaho and Montana, There are places that are owned by the people.
Like we were right next to land owned by America. And there are rules on the BLM land, and there are rules of what you're allowed to do in America that are very different than the eastern states. And so what what he was asking me to do was outside of his authority set, and it wasn't I wasn't impolite about it. He wasn't upset or worried about it. He didn't write up a report because it was a nonissue.
Because in New Mexico, there are hundreds of people on any given day shooting in public lands. That's what they do all the time. It's very, very common. And as you noticed in the conversation that I had, he said there were people shooting here yesterday. Mhmm.
There was no report from yesterday either. There's no there's no report ever because there's no law being broken. Mhmm. So the FBI is outside of the extruded purview of that one.
Speaker 0: Through all of this, and I will capture all of your points in this statement. Okay?
Speaker 1: Yes. I understand that that's the goal.
Speaker 0: And yeah. Alright. So the the 11th or 12th, you said, you're coming?
Speaker 1: That I will imagine be there the night before. Yes. That's my thought. Okay. Assuming I am not sick, which we hope we don't do that.
Speaker 0: You'll probably it'll be just in time for you to get sick from what your whole family is sick from this week. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Correct. I will definitely be susceptible to it. Priority. Sorry. Yes.
No. You're correct. You're not wrong.
Speaker 0: I ever do hope that you guys all get better and get stronger, and don't let this sap the life out of you. Okay?
Speaker 1: It is not. Get through it.
Speaker 0: We're gonna get through this. Okay?
Speaker 1: It is energizing.
Speaker 0: Oh, gosh. Okay. Okay. But, yeah. Alright?
Speaker 1: Alright. Well If
Speaker 0: you have any questions, you can call me and ask me. And and so the EAN, if you needed that, that was for, for your travel. So you could,
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I can feed I can feed it to the CSO. Send it
Speaker 0: all to us so that we pay that bill.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I
Speaker 0: pay you for that. We reimburse you or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How do you wanna do it? They're they're gonna pay it out of pocket because I'm not trying to be out of pocket. I don't have any income at the moment. So
Speaker 0: Okay. Okay. Well, that that's understandable. Yeah. We could do that.
Alright. Thanks. I'll get with SECD and,
Speaker 1: see what they're doing. See if you guys can mind if you think so.
Speaker 0: Monstrously long day for you, but we'll we'll see if we can either do it at the same time or if we can, you know, piggyback
Speaker 1: Yep. Or something like that. Their proposal was their proposal was 10 AM for your awareness. So whatever that involves afterwards Thanks. Whatever you guys line up, that's fine.
I will I will be there and available. I assume that my attorney will join me personally, but I don't know for a fact, and I may have another one.
Speaker 0: We've had folks had their attorneys on on the phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's I mean, you guys want me in in person for a reason. I would want my attorney there in person for a reason as well, if that makes sense.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: It's Okay. It's my preference.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Okay. I don't know. Yeah. I think that they work much better in person.
We generally don't ever do these, interviews. You know, if the the subject of the, inquiry, we would always want to have them in person. And then, yeah, their attorneys, it's more attorneys than not actually just do the phone call. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm familiar. I I
Speaker 0: And is your attorney in Texas?
Speaker 1: No. No. No. I have I have one that's in Virginia, and I have another one that is in, that is in New Jersey.
Speaker 0: Oh, I can't remember
Speaker 1: And I may be having another one who's in Virginia. Right?
Speaker 0: But I can't remember the guy's name.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Thomas Allen was the one that was cc'd on the most recent stuff. There's a
Speaker 0: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1: I may be picking up another person out of, another firm as well. So
Speaker 0: Okay. And Tom Allen is local to Virginia?
Speaker 1: I believe he's in I believe he's in New Jersey.
Speaker 0: Oh, okay. Alright.
Speaker 1: But but I may find I might
Speaker 0: how how you do it. But, generally, yeah, either way works for us, but we don't pay for the attorney to come.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 0: Understood. Okay. Alright.
Speaker 1: I imagine that I can pretty much crowdsource anything at this point. There's a lot of interest in what's going on with me.
Speaker 0: Crowdsource. I'm an old lady. I told you that. So crowdsourcing, that is like a GoFundMe or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Something to that effect, I imagine. Although, I'm sure GoFundMe is politically motivated as well, so they will not do that.
Speaker 0: I don't know. I'm stepping on all these political landmines because I I can't I hate politics so much. That's But you know what?
Speaker 1: They Why some of us try to
Speaker 0: leave DC? Attention to it, and you'll die by it. Right?
Speaker 1: That's correct. Yep. It's still there whether you like it or not, and it's whether I like it
Speaker 0: or not too. I hate it, and I should probably pay attention. Maybe when I retire, I'll pay more attention.
Speaker 1: It'll shorten your life if you can avoid it, I would I'd advise.
Speaker 0: I know. I I think at this point, I can't, or I would be infuriated constantly, so I have to not pay attention.
Speaker 1: Yep. Based on what you're saying, that sounds true. I think that's probably the case.
Speaker 0: Hide it
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hide it from it as long as possible. Angry. It's it's not a good feeling. Excuse me.
Alright. Well, thank you for taking my call. I appreciate your time. I appreciate the discussion. I will look forward to talking to you at some point in the future, and, whatever you guys work out.
My email is good. And if you cc my attorney on the on the list, that'd be great too. And we will have that conversation shortly.
Speaker 0: We're not gonna automatically cc.
Speaker 1: The attorney what the status
Speaker 0: of that is. And that that's, again, that's, like, written up in the
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 0: I'm I'm
Speaker 1: more than happy to share it to anybody that needs to be shared to you.
Speaker 0: But I take it into consideration here that you'd said cc the attorney, so I'll, you know, without
Speaker 1: Yeah. You're you're not gonna hurt my feelings. The FBI has already reached out to the wrong attorney for the wrong reasons multiple times at this point. Like, they have they can't get their they the field office couldn't get their thing together. Is it okay
Speaker 0: if I leave it to you to just, like, forward it on
Speaker 1: Yeah. Of course.
Speaker 0: To your attorney?
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's my attorney. That's fine. It's not a problem.
Speaker 0: Okay. Oh, thanks. Alright. Well, I look forward to, meeting with you and and getting through all this. And, I will I'm one of those praying types, so I'll keep you in my prayers, dude.
Speaker 1: That is very appreciated. Yep. We we'll take all the prayers we can get right now. That's the one thing I do have faith in. So
Speaker 0: we do. Everything else, nothing. But,
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a there's a lot of
Speaker 0: god fearing.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of god fearing people in the FBI. It's, it's sad that there's there's enough that are not that have driven that where we're at, I think. So but we'll we'll we'll talk about it in person. I look forward to it, and I hope you have a Alright. What is today?
Speaker 0: Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: Today's Friday. I hope you have a nice Oh, yeah. I hope you have a nice rest of your week.
Speaker 0: Oh, yeah. We're gonna get hit with this hurricane, but
Speaker 1: Yep. Tuck it in then, I guess, and make sure you got your water stored.
Speaker 0: Oh, yeah. Thanks. It's a good point. Yeah. Yep.
We've got that.
Speaker 1: We're ready
Speaker 0: to go.
Speaker 1: Good to go.
Speaker 0: Alright. You take care. Be safe, and, get healthy. Alright?
Speaker 1: Yep. Thank you, Marilyn. Appreciate it.
Speaker 0: Alright. Bye. Bye.
reSee.it AI Summary
The #ColoradoSupremeCourt decision states that it will never go into action, despite the reactions of victory and outrage. It is interesting to note that all dissenting judges graduated from the University of Denver Law School, while those who signed onto the ruling went to Ivy or old guard East Coast schools. Credit to @thevivafrei for pointing out that this decision is DOA for removing Trump, as the action order was killed in the decision on page 8.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Despite all of the hand wringing of victory, and the pearl clutching of outrage, the #ColoradoSupremeCourt decisions literally states that it will never go into action IN THE DECISION. What I thought was interesting 👇👇👇 🚨ALL of the dissenting judges graduated from University of Denver Law School. 💥ALL of those who signed onto the ruling went to Ivy or old guard East Coast schools (Harvard/Yale/UPenn/UVa). Wonder what that means...?
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Credit to @thevivafrei for calling it out yesterday. But this decision is DOA when it comes to removing Trump. They killed the action order IN the decision on page 8. https://t.co/vyusHJin4h
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Online conspiracy theories surrounding child sex trafficking, such as #PizzaGate, have been dismissed by many as baseless. However, recent concerns have been raised about expensive instant downloads of cheese pizza pictures on Etsy, specifically related to a seller named "Lala Babe." Questions have been raised about whether this is a covert operation or if Etsy is profiting from it. It is important to consider the potential implications and engage in self-reflection regarding the disturbing reality of child sex trafficking.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
This is why no one can believe things online... OBVIOUSLY no one is using such THINLY veiled "code words" like PIZZA to disguise child sex trafficking. That is ridiculous. On its face. Totally, unbelievable. Now... @Etsy - can we talk about these VERY expensive Instant Downloads of Cheese PIZZA pictures available right now? Just curious what's up with "Lala Babe." Is that a Fed Online undercover op? Or is Etsy profiting from what it looks like? Just asking questions here...
@AwakenedOutlaw - AwakenedOutlaw⚒️
To those who never believed #PizzaGate was real. Y'all realize that actual pedophiles actually fooled most everyone into believing that it wasn't true at all. That it was just the rantings of crazed conspiracy theorists. Welp, hate to break it to you but the truth is that a bunch of super-wealthy child-raping pricks got you guys to provide cover for them whilst they continued to go about operating their industrial-level child sex trafficking empire ever since. In effect, as doubters who actively participated in obfuscating all of it are involved as accessories (of sorts) to a crime by helping them cover up what amounts to a massive and sickening enterprise tied directly to all the most powerful DC elites. Think about that for a hot minute. And if that doesn't bother you, then you may want to engage in a little self-reflection. @LizCrokin knows the truth about all of this - and I can guarantee you that she wishes none of it was true. All of us do. This is truly horrifying shit we're talking about here.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
@Etsy **Follow-up: Because "BUY IT" is totally how "online stores" respond to basic questions.** https://t.co/rzJ4jIxEub
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Oh! Well… the @FBI public affairs office called @KerryPicket on a holiday weekend due to the TREMENDOUS backlash they are getting both internally and externally on this story. The @WashTimes has updated with their statement. Let me know below: Is the #FBI trustworthy? Or… https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/nov/10/whistleblowers-fbi-officials-singled-out-agents-wh/#insticator-commenting
Whistleblowers: FBI officials singled out agents who were former military for anti-Trump retaliation
FBI agents who served in the Marine Corps and other military veterans are being accused by bureau officials of being disloyal to the U.S. because they fit the profile of a supporter of former President Donald Trump, according to two new disclosures sent to lawmakers on the House Judiciary Committee.
washingtontimes.com
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FBI allowed McGonigal to run vital counterintelligence op, despite taking $225k from foreign agents. He retired, while whistleblowers were removed. FBI's corruption is evident. McGonigal hid ties, pursued conflicting business deals. No Espionage Act charges. Replace stars with bananas, give FBI the republic flag. [Link]
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
The @FBI allowed Charlie McGonigal to RUN the most important domestic Counterintelligence operation in the US gov. He took $225,000 from foreign agents while doing so (that we know of). He was able to retire. @GOBactual, @RealStevefriend, and I were removed from this agency. That tells me everything I need to know about what a piece of shit organization the #FBI has become. Promote corruption; remove integrity. “He was legally required to report his contacts with foreign officials to the FBI. Instead, he hid his ties and pursued lucrative business arrangements that conflicted with his job, prosecutors said.” Oh… taking money for foreign actors “conflicted” with his job? GTFOOH! It is called compromised. Where is the Espionage Act violations? You hit @realDonaldTrump with that and not the top FBI CI guy? Replace the stars with bananas. Give the FBI the republic flag. https://washingtontimes.com/news/2023/sep/22/charles-mcgonigal-ex-fbi-agent-pleads-guilty-to-co/
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
Watch the teaser trailer for the new @DineshDSouza Film "Police State", exclusively in theaters October 23 & 25. Tickets and email updates at http://policestatefilm.net @yesnicksearcy @dbongino @RealStevefriend @julie_kelly2 @Jim_Jordan #KashPatel @SeniorChiefEXW @LaBoscoSonya
Video Transcript AI Summary
We are your father. When the DOJ approved the no knock breach, we wanted the subject to be on display for full visual impact. Government told American citizens they couldn't go to church on Sunday, making people fear getting a knock at the door. The FBI used the Patriot Act and FISA against Donald Trump. These individuals have commissioned the biggest propaganda play in US history. Instead of going after those who rigged the election, they target those who want to uncover the truth. The FBI's focus is shifting towards domestic terrorists. Anyone right of center is labeled radical if they are pro-life or pro-family. We must deal with anti-government and violent extremists to protect freedom of religion.
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Speaker 0: We are your father. All
Speaker 1: Keep the busy council When DOJ approved the no knock breach, we want the subject to be on display. When the walk is came, full visual impact. Any questions? Are we becoming a police state?
Speaker 0: Government told American citizens they couldn't go to church on Sunday. For the first Time of my life, I'm saying to myself, am I gonna get a knock at the door?
Speaker 1: FBI war, come to the door now. The Patriot Act and FISA were used against Donald Trump.
Speaker 0: These individuals have commissioned the biggest propaganda play in US history.
Speaker 1: They don't go after the people that rigged the election. Go after the people that wanna find out what the hell happened.
Speaker 0: We don't need to have a crime. What we need is a person to look at And then we go find out what crime you did.
Speaker 1: FBI. What? Our focus is shifting. Our main priority as a bureau is gonna be domestic terrorist.
Speaker 0: Will he please anybody who's right of center? If you're a pro life, pro family captain, they define you as radical.
Speaker 1: These are anti government. We are freedom of religion and freedom of violent extremists, and they must be dealt with. We can do anything we want.
Police State | Official Site
D'Souza Media LLC presents a film produced by Dinesh D'Souza, Debbie D'Souza, and Bruce Schooley. Research by Julie Kelly and Peter Schweizer.
policestatefilm.net
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During the J20 protests in DC, I apprehended an Antifa activist who targeted the USParkPolice helicopter with a laser pointer. Surprisingly, this individual was released without charges. Meanwhile, others from their group burned private and government property, aiming to disrupt Trump's Inauguration. Astonishingly, there was no widespread effort to identify those responsible for these destructive acts.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
I was in the crown in DC on J20, 2017. I made a felony arrest of a likely Antifa activist who was attacking the @USParkPolice helicopter "Eagle 1" with a large laser pointer throughout the day. This individual was released without charges. His ilk burned private and government property and set out to "Disrupt J20" as part of a concerted effort to prevent Trump's Inauguration. A series of US Secret Service vehicles were burned on the north side of the parade route. There was no area-wide or nation-wide manhunt to find out who engaged in this activity.
@KyleSeraphin - Kyle Seraphin
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