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Here's a video I put together a couple years ago that takes a deep dive into the TCF Center during the 2020 election cycle. I spent a couple of weeks reviewing testimony and videos to organize this video. https://t.co/3QMxqotVjT
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During the video, various speakers discuss their experiences at the TCF Center during the election. They mention issues such as lack of training, intimidation, and improper handling of ballots. Some speakers claim to have witnessed ballots being counted multiple times, while others mention the absence of Republican poll workers. There are also allegations of fraudulent activity, including the arrival of boxes of ballots in unsealed vans. The speakers express concerns about the lack of chain of custody verification and the potential impact on the integrity of the election process.
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Speaker 0: Now that's Why did they put the cardboard up on the windows?
Speaker 1: Like, because they're spec. Oh,
Speaker 0: okay. It was just something they they they they screwed up on. I mean, they just it was on. The emotion in that set TCF center was so high, it was caused by both sides. It that It wasn't just Okay.
Related to I'm sorry. Related to who? They training.
Speaker 2: Training. Lack of training.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I could see that.
Speaker 3: I don't know what
Speaker 0: I think people were going there looking for a place. That
Speaker 4: Coworkers are showed up, eager to work, all have been trained, and they did as they were trained to do.
Speaker 1: That that Your chairperson can issue him what type of ballot?
Speaker 0: A provisional.
Speaker 1: A provisional envelope. Why? That Where is it going?
Speaker 0: Not in the tabulator.
Speaker 1: Not in the tabulator. It's going in the envelope. Right? That He we have how many days? 6.
So what is the Department of Elections gonna do with it?
Speaker 0: That Alright. What I hope Destroy. That
Speaker 1: Challengers and Polar Watchers. That They have to wear a mask and they have to stay 6 feet. That's important because they can come behind your table. That But if you don't have 6 feet, they can't come back there. Any questions?
So the 6 feet back was a really
Speaker 0: good vision. Thick neck, please. Exactly. Okay. Yes.
They got
Speaker 1: really good vision. They're that They got really good pictures. They were not yours. 6 feet. That's the rule.
Right? That And you are entitled to your 6 feet. Is that common? We can we expect that in. Yep.
There is a common. That They come. I don't know if they're coming to every precinct, but they're coming to many of them in the city. Yes. We have already gotten word.
The state has already said that And the basic thing that's going to challenge is what? Adaptive. That That
Speaker 0: is correct.
Speaker 5: Anytime as a challenger, I tried to look at the ballot that And then try to verify it, I would get 2 or 3 of the poll workers literally screaming at me to get back 6 feet.
Speaker 6: That We were never told that the person that was inspecting the ballot, their job was to stand in front of the Republican poll challenger, but consistently, that's what that We saw. Whenever we would try to watch the process, the person that was inspecting the ballot would stand in front of us. And if we tried to move to the side, One of the agitators that were, at the TCF center, and there were lots of agitators that were there working on behalf, that in my opinion of the Democrat Party, they would challenge us and tell us to stand back, that we were too close, that we We were going to kill people with COVID. So that's what we encountered, and we were not allowed to get up close to the ballots. It just was prohibited.
It wasn't allowed.
Speaker 7: I was called names whenever my mask fell down even below a little below my nose. I'd be called names. I'd say I was killing people, stuff like that while they'd be talking to somebody not wearing a mask. People at the polling centers weren't wearing masks, the people who were doing the duplicating.
Speaker 0: That challenging as they start yelling and kinda making a scene. 911.
Speaker 1: They got they got standards. They got conduct standards.
Speaker 8: Okay. That
Speaker 1: Make a scene. Give him a bite of it. I'll probably serve.
Speaker 8: When I first arrived, this was interesting as well. I was wearing a mask. That And I was fidgeting with it because it was itchy. There was a gentleman who was a table supervisor. Again, he had the emblem on that his breast.
And he basically called me a bio terrorist, basically said I was killing people. We're in the middle of a pandemic and he was going to kick me out if I continue to itch my face because I was wearing an itchy mask. That I knew to itch my face because I was wearing an itchy mask. And I kept on trying to ask him, does everybody have to have this standard of wearing a mask? Because I saw numerous workers not wearing masks properly.
Because I saw numerous workers not wearing masks properly. Eventually, as he called me an agitator, I pointed to a gentleman. I said, does he have that wear his mask. And he didn't respond to me. And I wanted to stay in there because he told me he was going to arrest me because he identified himself as a that Wayne County, working for the Wayne County Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 10: It's important to know that I end up in assault and battery with a worker there. That
Speaker 5: At no time were we able actually to physically see the ballot and then see it in the, the poll electronic book. That The person opening the ballot would probably be sitting where senator Theiss is, and the electronic screen that we were that supposed to be watching is basically to where the committee clerk is. Now I don't know if you guys got binocular vision, but that I don't. So I cannot look at a ballot over here, run down to this screen, and be able to see it and verify that it is the same. I did address they with them multiple times and they told me, sorry, I should have planned better.
Speaker 6: At one point, when the military ballots came in, we were told to take a break, that it was a good time to take a break. I'd been there for 6 hours. I worked for a total of 13 hours that day, and the only time I sat down because Republican poll workers had to go upstairs to another room that to get lunch or to sit on a chair. Democrats and the agitators all had a corner where food was brought into them. They were served food.
They didn't have to leave. When it was time to go to lunch, we had to leave because we didn't have food provided. We had to go to another room. When we got back, the doors were locked. I was able to get back into the room.
Speaker 11: I also witnessed, several of the poll workers yelling, Cussing, all kinds of nasty things. And a lot of the poll challengers, including myself.
Speaker 3: That Several of us challengers watched quietly for over a long, long time for the military ballots. That one point, several police officers came in and stood between us and the ballots little over to the side. But, that a man came up and said we were to disperse. I said we were being respectful and standing more than 6 feet way that Away, he said, it has nothing to do with COVID. You are interfering with the process.
That. We were standing quietly doing nothing, but we spread out in the aisles like the little sheep. That Quincy, of course, from there. There seemed to be a concerted effort To, let us know that we were not welcome, very unfriendly and at times hostile. At one point, that I witnessed a challenger walk up to a a lady to look at the ballot.
That She turned aggressively brandishing a long metal letter opener to the gentleman. And in a threatening manner, pointed the sharp object towards his that And demanded that he move back, move back. He backed up and she took a step forward towards him, still pointing the sharp object at his that And repeating back up, she said it at least 4 times. Another time I was standing more than 6 that feet away from accounting board table when a man forcefully demanded get back. COVID, COVID, get back.
It was impossible for that Just to see what he and anyone else was doing at the table. Clearly, that was his goal.
Speaker 0: You stayed on till in the morning hours?
Speaker 12: I stayed in until I was kicked out. I was not I they said, you know, you can leave the room for a snack. I left the room for a snack, and immediately, they closed it down.
Speaker 0: What time was that?
Speaker 12: Around 2 PM. Okay.
Speaker 13: The thing that bothered me was that when every time a GOP challenger was being escorted out, all the poll workers, Democrats and everybody else, that were cheering, and that was very disappointing because these people were just doing their job. They were not attacking. They were not there with guns. They were just volunteering their time, and they were that Treated with utmost disrespect. There was a group of people, who were like agitators, who were trying to get GOP people in trouble, and, from my skin color, everybody assumes that I'm a democrat.
And, so they just kind of come to me, that And, one of the ladies was singing that let's get let's get these MFs out. And I'm like, MFs who? Like, because, she I thought I was a democrat. Then when I pulled out my tag, she looked at me and she's like, you're on the wrong side. I'm like, how can you say I'm on the that side.
I pick whoever I want. Right? Because this is a free country. But, then I noticed that they were going and getting all the white that Male Republicans out by, you know, just kinda sheer intimidation, you know, just saying, oh, your mask slipped. You're gonna get people killed like you heard from so many other people.
And, then what I did was I got trained by 2, both the that integration integrity fund. So I went to Tim Griffin of election integrity fund, and I said, can I have my nonpartisan, credentials? And then when I that.
Speaker 0: Audience Member: I brought that
Speaker 13: badge on, everything changed. Like people just looked at me differently. I was looked at with a lot of hostility when I had the GOP tag, and now that I have a that partisan tag. I was respected at the counting boards. I was respected by the Democrats in the ACLU.
Speaker 14: I was a Republican certified poll challenger at the TCF center that From November 4th to November 5th, I was one of the victims of harassment, discrimination and intimidation by election workers while I was fulfilling that My duty as a challenger. What the witness has shared are no conspiracy theories. Several times, election workers tried to remove me from the wrong with the that False accusations that I was impeding their process. They were the ones who blocked me from seeing the ballot and when allowed workers will complain. And Election worker was brought up to harass me with the base of being too close.
However, among themselves, they didn't social distance. That I explained to him that I was only following the chairperson direction in and out. Somehow, we got to the point that English was not my first language that And he implied that then I shouldn't be there. I told him that he was discriminating and that he was treating me like garbage. That He went away.
Later, port workers whispered to each other and brought police officers to remove me. It was pretty intimidating having officers Approaching me when I had not done anything wrong. I understood they were trying to do their job. I noticed an officer was Hispanic And I talked to him in Spanish. They were being that they were being lied.
The officer started backing up. I witnessed many Republicans being kicked that out of the room and it was scary. That is not the America I came to a few decades ago. They were marked, that Kicked out and not replaced even though they were Republicans outside to be allowed to enter. It didn't happen.
That With these
Speaker 7: manual ballots, after we watched duplication process go on, they brought more ballots over, and We watched them scan the ballots and put in the date 1/1/1900. I was actually with the democratic challenger too. We were both confused on why this was that happening. So we decided to call over a supervisor who the only response we got was, oh, that's the default date that we put. I was I didn't ask any other questions neither that he I was didn't ask any questions and the fear that I'd be kicked out as I just witnessed 4 other republicans slash independents get kicked out.
And it was that Interesting because in the guide or in the handbook, it does say that no propaganda is allowed inside of the polling center. And I did see Black Lives Matter masks. And, again, I feel that There's nothing wrong with that. But I feel like that's a double standard. I feel that it's wrong that people can have that and it's okay.
Speaker 15: As you've already heard from many people who've had that my positions. There was a lot of intimidation and hostility, vented toward the Republican challengers. I experienced a lot of that as well. Right away, of that Of course, we know rules were broken because there were very, very few. I count less than 5 when there was the hand raise, Republican poll workers that in the room.
There's supposed to be 1 at every counting table, at least, and there wasn't. By midday on Wednesday, there were no more that Republicans allowed into the room. There was a lot of intimidation around those who were in the room, particularly the men and the lawyers, and they were hauled out, that Forcibly by the police for really no good reason, while the whole room of, of workers cheered. That This is intimidating. They stood and they cheered repeatedly as Republicans were hauled out for doing their job.
This is wrong. That I personally was the victim of 2 different accounts of intimidation, 1 by workers, supervisors included, and 1 by Republican, that poll challengers or watchers. In both cases, I had, raised my hand to challenge a ballot. In one case, the ballot was being duplicated. I was that prevented from watching because only 2 workers were doing it, and they were shoulder to shoulder.
I'd moved into about 3 feet or so behind them so I could look that over the shoulders. The supervisor came over and told me I had to get out of there, at least 6 feet away. I told her that I by the rules, election rules, I could move in during the time that I was watching the ballot that Well,
Speaker 12: it was being duplicated.
Speaker 15: She was yelling at me. And a second that ballot ended up being, duplicated in error. We got a high enough supervisor to stop that. The 2nd time I was surrounded by, Republican or I'm sorry, Democrat, that challengers who, again, were yelling at me, calling me a racist, telling me my mother didn't love me, all kinds of, you know, stupid but meant to intimidate things. That This is wrong.
We all deserve a fair ability to vote our conscience and to participate in the election process. That This did not happen at TFC and it needs to be audited. And we're counting on you to do it.
Speaker 16: The complete hate, disdain, and apathy for Republican poll challengers that is but one way of how elections are stolen in Michigan. Before COVID nineteen, and I'm talking to the Democrat in the House, that And in every election in the last 25 years, Republican poll challengers were removed by the police, especially in Pontiac. That MCL 168.733 says, the election inspectors that and other election officials on duty shall protect a challenger in the discharge of his or her duties. Shall protect is not an option. That shall protect.
It is never done in the urban areas. Never never never in the urban areas. In the that 34 years I've been working for the, the the state of Michigan, and certainly not the 29 years I've been working at the secretary of state. That It also says in subsection 4, a person shall not threaten or intimidate a challenger while performing an activity allowed. That You shall not threaten or intimidate.
It is a misdemeanor for what they have done, these, these inspectors, to continue to intimidate that And throw out Republican poll challengers. It has been going on too long.
Speaker 1: 60 fat was a really good vision. Thick neck. See?
Speaker 17: They that 911.
Speaker 1: They make the scene. Give them a bite of it. I'll probably
Speaker 0: that that
Speaker 1: that How do you challenge a ballot? You take the ballot, you write in the under the barcode that 2003. And you cover it with what kind of tape?
Speaker 0: Post it.
Speaker 1: Post it. The post it tape. That But this time, you're gonna put it in a secrecy sleeve and mister Stark is gonna go both abnormal. That So this ballot is going through what? The tabulator.
Speaker 0: That that
Speaker 18: I observed that envelopes which were scanned in, in some cases, would have a different ballot number than was on the envelope. I was at Board 55 in TCF. The ballot number though was in the poll book as was the number on the envelope. The situation resulted in a challenged ballot. That the situation should result in a provisional ballot because there's no no one knows who voted for anything.
That I was would like
Speaker 9: to know about the ballot that you said you saw that was blank. Mhmm. Do you know what the disposition
Speaker 19: that Of that became?
Speaker 0: What do
Speaker 8: you mean the disposition of that?
Speaker 9: What happened to it?
Speaker 8: It was put in the folder to be tabulated, And it was ran through the tabulator from what my table supervisor told me.
Speaker 9: But it would have but it was blank. So
Speaker 8: She said then, the tabulator would uncover for that. And then it would be spoiled at that time.
Speaker 9: I see. And then you there was another ballot that you identified, you challenged specifically?
Speaker 8: Absolutely. Because when they they scanned it. The little window
Speaker 9: that it was
Speaker 0: just a duplicate.
Speaker 8: Computer. It said duplicate already processed.
Speaker 9: So what happened with that? So they
Speaker 8: they initially put it into the provisional ballot folder like they should have. Okay. And I thought that was great. And I was like, awesome. We got a process that's working here.
And then when I went up at the end of my shift because I was told there was gonna be reinforcements. So I left at 5 AM. It was a long day. And I'm from Grand Rapids. She told me that that All of the ballots in the provisional folder would be taken out and put into the folder to be tabulated because the tabulator would uncover the error.
The that Tabulator would find out that this was a duplicate ballot. And I asked her that twice because I was under the impression that the tabulator is a counter. That So I asked her, how will the tabulator uncover that? She told me and she assured me the tabulator would uncover the error.
Speaker 20: Okay. Do you that Have, when you speak about an audit and a complete audit, how do you what would you see as the appropriate type of that Would it be a forensic audit? Would it be a hand recount of ballots? What would you like to see done?
Speaker 16: 71% of Detroit cannot be recounted, that Which means that the boxes that the ballots are in cannot be opened. 71% is egregious, that And it happens in these communities of color. So if you cannot recount it because of a, quote, clerical error according to, that Secretary Benson. These are not clerical errors. These ballots are hidden in.
You can hide them in there until you're able to open them. That There are processes that have been allowed so that when those when you cannot balance your precinct, you can go to a accounting board or a board that To evaluate them at that time, those those errors are supposed to be fixed, and they can open up that The ballots. The only way to open up the ballots right now to get your ideas on it is for you to do a complete forensic audit that that needs to be done to open up those ballots because a recount is only gonna get you 71% that Of the ticker tape that says these are the numbers, and there are bad ballots inside. You cannot look at the ballots if you do a recount. That You need an audit in order to do a forensic audit to look at those ballots.
Some absentee ballots that were coming in that We're not even folded. How do you have a a pristine, flat, ballot that Without being folded, if it was an absentee ballot. And therein lies some of the problems. And once it goes into the machine multiple times, that You cannot open up the case. If you put the wrong number on the seal, you can't open it up.
If you put in it doesn't balance, that You can't open it up. And so there's problems with what's going on. We need to open up those ballots to for the integrity that because we cannot move forward in any further election.
Speaker 11: Can I ask a follow-up?
Speaker 20: So I am curious, that because I understand that a lot of them didn't balance. What is the appropriate process once you get done with the election, and you you've come, you've you've done the ballot count, that And you realize that they're not balancing. What would the would the appropriate process be right then?
Speaker 16: The precinct inspectors or the precinct captain who was supposed to be trained that are supposed to, contact the clerk's office if there is any problem with balancing. You're supposed to know that And have your hand on how many provisional ballots, how many spoiled ballots, where are the missing ballots, that What's going on, you're supposed to take care of it at the precinct level and then close your precinct. But if some reason you're not able to, there's accounting board that Where you take your ballots to to turn them in to say, I testified that I did this, and I've got my paperwork. I've got my poll books. I've got the notes written down in the poll books that Or in our electronic poll books.
And that counting board is supposed to say, you're not in balance. Let us open up that that container and make sure those poll books are are we can look at the ballots. We physically can look at them. But in these urban areas, they're lazy, And they're not taking this, the civic right very seriously or their duties very seriously. They take an oath when they do as a that precinct inspector.
They are not taking it seriously and have not for years. And the apathy toward the, the official duties here that Has become egregious because once they decide not to balance that precinct, then it goes through and you have the hot mess that you had, that Where you have these, canvassers board of canvassers for people that is supposed to amen that that That hot mess. Flint has never been able to balance, never been able to balance, and there's touch points across that where they have the ability to open that up, to do a, quote, honest, open of the ballot itself, the container itself. That If you're not able to open that container up, which after it leaves the accounting board, you're not able to do it unless you get a court order or an audit. And no one has been brave enough to do it.
71% of Detroit cannot be counted recounted. That We have nothing. And when we did a recount before, we saw some of the most egregious things when we looked through and did recounts before that In Detroit, there's some things in there that should never have been in there. And that is what I'm telling you about when you're able to open up those, that Ballot boxes. But it is not going to be at the Detroit canvasser level and certainly not at the Michigan State Board of Canvas level.
There. Thank you.
Speaker 21: So one more thing is what I wanna show you, and this is one that totally bothers me. That that There is nothing voted on this ballot. Everybody agree? Mhmm. It's a 100% blank ballot.
That I can go over here and tell it to stop adjudication, that And I can tell it to scan and adjudicate all ballots. I can go and vote that That blank ballot.
Speaker 0: Oh, wow.
Speaker 19: Charles. Oh,
Speaker 10: no. I mean, it's
Speaker 0: that Mister, can you stand a ballot more than once?
Speaker 21: I've just done it.
Speaker 1: That Yeah.
Speaker 0: You just keep scanning. Usually
Speaker 21: I just kept scanning that same like,
Speaker 0: you just keep sending I
Speaker 21: just scanned the same batches that y'all just voted. That Mhmm. I never got any more until that one.
Speaker 0: Know why they approved such a system. Don't get it. Mhmm.
Speaker 21: That To see, as I have it right now, I have it to do ambiguous mark and over votes. That It's supposed to do blank ballots. So let's see that If it does the blank ballots like it's supposed to. Let's see. That It scanned it.
I'm going to accept it into the system, that And now let's see if it goes over for adjudication. Or that And these red lines show me that these batches were adjudicated, that I touched those ballots, that That someone touched those ballots. But it does not know that I, Misty Martin, touched those ballots.
Speaker 10: That So they can be tracked which ones were adjudicated.
Speaker 21: It can be tracked, but it cannot be tracked to exactly what ballot it was.
Speaker 2: That tracked, but it can't be traced.
Speaker 21: Right. So, okay, it sent it to adjudication, that And there's my batch, my blank ballot that I want to adjudicate, that And I'm gonna vote for Doug Collins. I'm going to vote for Bubba, and I am going to that completed, and I just counted that vote.
Speaker 22: Holy cow.
Speaker 0: Is she working? That Yeah. If you intend to be honest, it works fine. Say that
Speaker 21: one more time.
Speaker 0: I said it works fine for honest people.
Speaker 21: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: Those who intend that to do wrong, though. Certainly can. That's right.
Speaker 21: Alright. I'm cutting it off.
Speaker 0: That
Speaker 1: Page 15. Alright. Page 15 is an example of a new voter registration receipt. That In Michigan, what can we do now as as new votes? We can register to vote up and through election day.
That The computer system, the electronic code book program is downloaded on Saturday before election day.
Speaker 0: That It is not a
Speaker 1: live feed. So if someone registers on Sunday or Monday, they're not gonna be in your computer. That But they should have a receipt when they register. If they do not vote at the time they register, they give them a receipt to bring to the priestly. That So mister Stark, he came in.
You looked and you didn't find him. So you're gonna say mister Stark, that Are you a registered voter in Michigan? Mister Stark is gonna say sure. I'm Ironman. That I flew in yesterday, and I'm registered to vote.
Right? Mister Starks, did they give you a receipt?
Speaker 0: That Hopefully he will have 1.
Speaker 1: He would have either. Right up under here. That The 1st type of receipt he might have is gonna say process him as a challenge voter. Everybody highlight that. That Then below that, it says note to election inspector.
Highlight that. Because those are gonna be the directions on how you process this ballot. That The one down below says, process him as a regular voter. A regular ballot. Highlight that.
So there are 2 separate types of receipts. That The 1st receipt is going to tell you to process him as a challenge voter. The 2nd receipt will tell you to that come as a regular voter. They might have either one.
Speaker 0: That
Speaker 6: about the military ballots. When it was time to count the military ballots wrap up. Pardon?
Speaker 9: I'll give you 15 more seconds
Speaker 6: to they Not one of the military ballots was a registered voter, and the ballots looked like they were all exactly the same Xerox copies that Of the ballot, they were all for Biden across the board. There wasn't a single Trump vote, and none of the the voters were registered. They had to manually enter the names and addresses and a birth date of that 1 120, which would override the system and allow them to enter non registered voters, of which I saw several that day. Throughout the day, that's how they would they voters that were neither in the electronic poll book or the supplemental updated poll book. Thank you.
Speaker 0: That that that that that
Speaker 23: So we had to trump up our recruiting process for the City of Detroit. And what we did at the top of the year, we worked with the Detroit Public Schools. Detroit Public Schools has 22 high schools And we called in, all of the student council representatives for each school And brought them in and talked to them about Democracy for Tomorrow. The beauty of that was the fact that we thought that we could kill 2 birds with that One stone. 1st and foremost, introduce voters, students, to the voting process.
And then the other part was we can register students to vote and recruit. We were able to register approximately 1200 students to vote for the upcoming election cycles, But the beautiful thing that occurred for us was the fact that, in one day we were able to recruit more than 700 poll workers, With that Democracy for Tomorrow program, the next process is to make sure that each one of those students have an opportunity To go through our training program. We start training poll workers approximately 60 days prior to the election And each one of those students will have an opportunity to go through the training process to ensure that they have a fundamental understanding of, that what they need to do at the precinct on Election Day.
Speaker 1: We know that we have a lot of high school students as CPIs. That And if you can't go to receiving the records late at night. Right? If you can't go, you need to tell your that Chairperson early in the day. Hey, I can't do the receiving board.
They will choose someone else to go with them.
Speaker 17: That that You actually can make that to borrow me the $50 if you took this laptop to the. But I stress that This only happened if your EPIs are a teenager. A lot of our EPIs are teenagers, you know, in high school. And they can't send them to you once to 3 in the morning. That So, you know, they need someone to drop us that off.
Because on election day, you will have you you have numbers for troubleshooters like myself and different coordinators. That But honestly speaking, it's gonna be hard to, you know, get ahold of someone because it's gonna be 10 people calling for, a mishap at the same time.
Speaker 24: That And, we ended up calling the war room in Lansing because I said, no. They have to call the clerk and have the ballot spoiled before they can issue him another ballot. That And, they didn't agree with me, so we've got that straight straightened out and that was true. They had to call the clerk. Well, the clerk that Wasn't answering.
They they were they weren't getting any answers. So I know they were just continuing to give people ballots that had, that You know, the question mark
Speaker 0: because no one would answer it at the clerk's office. That
Speaker 1: What do you notice about his name?
Speaker 2: It's pushed
Speaker 1: red and black.
Speaker 19: Absentee ballot. Absentee ballot.
Speaker 1: Absentee ballot what? That Sent and received. Do not what? You're not. National or him are valid.
That Mister Allen, we have received your ballot. Thank you very much. Received. For voting. Would you like a I wrote a that Right?
He's already voted. It's no reason for him to vote again at all. That Ever. That day. He's done.
But what if he gets what? That Loud. Rude. Rude. That's not me.
I need a vote. I don't wanna vote. That And just ask the purest right? That What can you do? Your chairperson can issue him what type of ballot?
Speaker 0: A provisional.
Speaker 1: A provisional envelope. That Why? Where is it going?
Speaker 0: I don't know that's not
Speaker 1: Not in the tabulator. It's going in that envelope. Right? That He we have how many days? 6.
So what is the Department of Elections gonna do with it? Alright.
Speaker 0: Well, I hope
Speaker 1: Destroy there.
Speaker 4: It's been long. A 120,000 have been published. That So, again, gone through the tabulator about a 120,000. About that 80,000 of those have been published, meaning they've gone through the adjudication process. They've been looked at.
There's no errors,
Speaker 0: that And they're good
Speaker 4: to go. The difference still has to go through that process, and you could ask the election consultant detailed information that About that process.
Speaker 22: Well, as the clerk mentioned, we've had a very active day here at TCF in terms of tabulating. We started on that yesterday, at 10 o'clock, and we've been at it, all day today. And as a result, we were able to tabulate that Upwards of a 129,000 absentee ballots. As she mentioned, about 48,000 of those are going that through the adjudication process. Let me explain that a little bit for you.
Our Dominion system, when we go when the ballot is processed through the high that tabulator. What occurs is is that it takes a snapshot of those ballots that have over votes, under votes, blank ballots, and they And then those ballots have to be looked at from a Democrat by a Democrat and a Republican. So at this point in time, there's about that 48,000 ballots that are still in the pipe. But as the clerk mentioned, we're very confident, that we'll be through this process by this time on tomorrow.
Speaker 25: With the adjudication process, when you're one of the there. Education process. When you're one of the one of the main arguments from Georgia has been, well, we've done 2 hand recounts. That Well, counting counterfeit money twice doesn't give you a different outcome. It gives you the same outcome.
So what we keep trying to explain to people, and we testified that To this point, when we we were in front of the senate committee in Georgia, and we explained, if you put a ballot in and it's adjudicated, that original ballot that with the voters' original intent is gone. So now there's a new ballot that you have that can be printed, and then they can keep that that as their record. So now when you're comparing them, they all add up. And it looks like, oh, yeah. That voter wanted to vote that way.
But that's not how the voter voted. That That's how the adjudicator determined voter intent, and that changes that outcome. And that's why that doesn't make any sense. An adjudication is supposed to have that Two witnesses from either party. Sometimes there's even an independent as well.
Those processes didn't happen. We spoke to the adjudicators. They didn't have that at all.
Speaker 26: So bottom line is with many of these ballots, it may just simply be impossible at this point to know the original voter intent.
Speaker 25: Exactly right. That Especially because the ballots are separated from their envelopes. They're put into a machine. There's no audit logs. There's no that login credentials.
The machine is already logged on. They don't even have to log in. You don't even know who made the change. There's no tracking. This is our most important civic duty, that And we have absolutely no receipt or record of what we've done.
And now that we're pointing out the errors and we're showing that there is a trail, And that the data speaks very clearly to that. They're saying, no. Nothing to see here. We don't want to look at that. Why?
Speaker 27: Adjudicate a large amount of ballots. Right? You can adjudicate a batch of a 100 and just say, okay, a 100 for for Biden, a 100 for Trump, however it works. And that entire batch that will now destroy the record for every single one of those ballots and move the vote to exactly what they put. And that's, that These are these are supposed to be adjudications individually, but that doesn't necessarily happen.
Speaker 28: What I witnessed, at the TCF center was complete fraud.
Speaker 0: That The whole 27 hours I
Speaker 28: was there, there was, batches of ballots being ran through the tabulating machines that Numerous times, being counted 8 to 10 times. I watched this with my own eyes. I was there to assist with IT. That these people on night shift, I had 4 people on night shift that I've known. One of them, I've known for over 20 years.
That He approached me and said he had absolutely zero training whatsoever, contradicting a 100% what Daniel Baxter claims, that they had so much training. That He said they had 0. I watched. These people had no idea what they were doing. Okay.
That Also, the, adjudication process, I witnessed numerous people walking up, claiming they were both Democrats, that Saying they were going they were sitting together judging ballots all night together, all day together. I witnessed it all. I was on the main stage with all of the city officials. That Daniel Baxter was in on the whole thing. And I am under the impression, a 100%, that, that At least 90% of those workers were all in on this.
There was not a single ballot the whole night, the whole 27 hours I was there that that I saw that was for Donald Trump, not one, not a single ballot. That is that is scary.
Speaker 10: That On the day of voting, became aware that we didn't have enough that GOP people available for doing simple things like duplication of ballots. That Excuse me again. The, point I wanna make is that, I approached Daniel Baxter, who was the that chairman for the, for this, AV center and asked him about directly, you know, about the number of GOP people that were there that Waiting for, a duplication of a ballot, and none showed up. So at that point, I asked him how many GOP people were workers that There were. He says, oh, we have about 10 or 12.
He says, well, are they on the on the tabulators? He says, oh, no. We don't need them over there. That This is they're on the adjudication, tables. And, 10 to 12 people didn't even man all the stations that were there, that Which, again, indicated to me that there was not a, an adequate number of, Republicans, that opposing to, validate the proper, that Dual party evaluation of all these, adjudicator tables, modify the regular ballot Accounting stations.
So
Speaker 12: In September,
Speaker 0: I met one of the bipartisan groups. That Yeah. And they were begging to have the law changed to allow them to pre to pre the congress because they were expecting that Don't load it. That's debouncing, and they would worry about being able to process any time on it much at night. We did allow them to they in in buckets, that I that I would not allow them to reach out.
They'll be didn't prove the. They'll be recording. Yeah. Now there. Time.
I regret that because, that's created a lot of, particularly, CCA.
Speaker 29: While our election workers across the state work to that Count each and every valid ballot. We have to honor that work that went in today to making sure every vote got in, honor the work that went in to it throughout these that Past month to ensure every absentee ballot was delivered and received on time. We're gonna know much more in the hours and days ahead, that of of that how that particular issue with the postal service affected Detroit and affected Michigan. I can say a couple of things. 1, The attorney general was at the Detroit processing center and the Pontiac center yesterday.
Actually, with eyes on any ballots, any election mail that That still had to be delivered and and was given every assurance that it would be delivered before polls closed today. And so you have to ask her for more information about that About that particular experience, but the assurance I got from her and the confidence I got from her was that we would see any mail that was left moving, but we didn't see a significant amount of mail that That was, supposed to reach Clarkson, Michigan that was, stuck or in any way delayed. What I've been looking at are the overall numbers, How many ballots have been sent out and how many have come back. And to have what we were at this morning, which was a 92% return rate was actually much higher than we've been at at past elections. That and so we're gonna continue to track that because we know, again, ballots kept coming in until 8 o'clock today, and that's why I said we'll ultimately know more, that in the hours ahead about about how many ballots got in and if any, were delayed or or should have gotten in.
Speaker 12: So and And then we had a new shipment announcement by mister Baxter at 4:30 AM on the microphone. He's saying, hey. We're gonna have some ballots coming in. So these ballots these boxes of ballots that brought in by mister Baxter, and his team at 4:30 am from the rear of the room, the TCF center. That so approximately, I I witnessed them bringing in boxes from the rear end of the room into the into the room.
This This is between 4:30 and 5. We estimate I estimate around, 84 boxes placed on tables in the center of the room. That Each box with approximately 600 ballots, totaling to approximately 50,000 ballots equal to the 2 rounds before. Because we were there From 10 to 1, we did a round about 50,000, and then 1 to about 4, with 2nd round about another 50,000. And then this last round, all you have to know is there's the same amount that ballots from the other 2 rounds.
I'm not sure if they were all brought in from the back because I think they were commingled and also brought in from other other other rooms. So I'm not sure how many that from the back and then from the other areas, but they're putting all it was it was just about the same amount. So most volunteers left at 5 AM, that And, the poll workers had a shift change between 5 and 6 AM. I stayed. At 6 AM, mister Baxter and the management got back on the microphone and yelled, that This is what democracy is supposed to look like in front of everyone, the with the new shift.
Right after that, the whole room cheered. And You can tell there was not a balancing in the poll workers there even at that shift.
Speaker 2: My name is Shane Trejo. I was there as that pole challenger TCF from about 9:30 PM to 5:30 AM, on the night after that election in the morning after the election.
Speaker 0: That that
Speaker 2: that to the back of there's a big, you know, the facility where all the rooms were set up. You go to the back and there's a way that cars would just drive right into the facility. And that was like a a garage door had opened and and cars were coming in with the ballots. From what I saw, there was not 1 ballot that showed up that From at least 10 PM, or let let me say at least 10:30 to the 3:30 AM when, that Roughly, the the number that Colbeck gave was 38,000 ballots showed up. There were I counted over 50 different boxes
Speaker 0: that This is a balance that showed up
Speaker 2: all at once at 3:30 AM. Someone gave an official count, of 61. That So 61 balance, they were all in USPS boxes. They weren't it wasn't delivered by you 61 boxes of balance. Yes.
That Yes. And it wasn't delivered by USPS necessarily. It was in a van, a white van that That had the city clerk's emblem on it. And the city it said, Janice Winfrey, that Some tagline.
Speaker 19: Some reports indicate that there are 2 other vehicles there at the same time. And, I don't know if there's affidavit to that effect. I can say that that Me personally, I went back there and I witnessed a little, mini panel truck, if you will, with Detroit Elections Bureau, that Regalia over the side. It had a vehicle ID number on it. I didn't capture that, but we had other people that captured that information
Speaker 0: or
Speaker 19: and the, license plate number that with it. It looked legit. And inside of it were a and this gets into some chain of custody discussions. There's no verification that there is a republican that a democrat during transfer. We don't know that they didn't take side stops to the nearby Coney Island to pick up a few more ballots from their buddies.
Speaker 0: That We have no way of verifying any of
Speaker 2: that information. Are you supposed to be able to have that information?
Speaker 19: Supposed to be able to, yeah, have verification all the way along that The whole chain of custody were supposed to be there. And because they were not sealed. If they were sealed, all this stuff was sealed and you verify the seal. And then when you came to another destination and you see if the seal's still intact, alright. That's that's that's okay.
Speaker 2: So that's what the verification is supposed to look.
Speaker 19: That That's what we're supposed to see on us. Yeah. When I
Speaker 9: do it in
Speaker 19: the suburbs where I was a, senator, when I when I started to come in, we had pretty much a whole army that would get out of the van,
Speaker 0: that Get out there, pull up all the
Speaker 19: data from the from the precinct, put it in the van under configuration control. Everything was sealed up with the tape and put out there. That There is probably one of the most egregious aspects of what happened in the city of Detroit at the AB accounting board was the utter lack of respect for chain of custody.
Speaker 0: That that that that that that that that that they that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that