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New Whistleblower Alert! Canadian Government's Own Senior Data Scientist Is Whistleblowing PHAC's Purposeful Data "Skewing" To Hide What The Vax Was Really Doing To Canadians!! Do Not Miss This One! https://t.co/kr54VHm2UC
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Odessa Orlewitz hosts Liberty Talk Canada and introduces Doctor Dimitri, a senior data scientist with the Government of Canada (employee of CBSA). Dimitri says he is coming forward publicly with his full story as his case becomes public in two weeks. He states he did not disclose his medical status or discuss private correspondences, but he began sharing data-driven insights from within the system, building a portfolio of resources over the last five years. He says he has included his discipline letter and investigation report, which detail violations and allegations he defended against for talking about data he analyzed.
Dimitri describes a key, simple piece of evidence: deaths following COVID by vaccination status, published by the Public Health Agency of Canada. He argues that vaccine efficacy appears not to show significant improvement and that a technique he calls “algorithmic bias” or data skewing is used to hide the inconvenient truth. He says the data show that what researchers want to know—deaths among unvaccinated versus vaccinated—cannot be accurately inferred when data before vaccination campaigns are counted in, thus diluting comparisons. He frames this as a political interference issue, not a new phenomenon, comparing it to past concerns raised by Shiv Chopra and continuing into 2021.
Dimitri emphasizes fear of reprisal in the public service. He notes that, in public-service surveys, fear of reprisal is highest in the Health Products regulation unit, which he says he uncovered, and claims colleagues would testify but fear losing their jobs. He explains that his own union activities and leadership seminars since 2019 involved teaching data visualization tools (including PSESS) to observe datasets and detect issues. He recounts that after pushing data on vaccination and COVID, he faced multiple disciplinary actions: five days of suspension without pay for discussing information conflicting with government messaging; an eight-day suspension; and a ten-day suspension, all connected to the hearing and his broader aim of alerting on red flags.
Dimitri states that the hearing concerns limits to the duty of loyalty and insubordination in a democratic country like Canada. He argues that data people should be allowed to publish information that could challenge official messaging. He also notes that, outside Canada, Alberta passed a Regulated Professions Act and a Neutrality Act to protect free speech across regulated professions, suggesting a national parallel is needed for public servants. He says he will post updates in a newsletter and provide links to evidence and to testimonials from colleagues, professors from Ottawa U, and other data scientists who assisted with analyses, including Pfizer papers.
Dimitri recounts personal context: he took his own vaccine dose and has presented his case publicly, including short videos from a journalist documentary and his Freedom Convoy presentation. He asserts that mainstream media, such as CBC, did not interview him during the convoy era, implying a cover-up by mainstream outlets. Odessa urges viewers to attend Dimitri’s hearing, visit his website, and share the information widely. She closes with promotional plugs and advises the audience to follow the case through ivim.ca and related links.
Throughout, Dimitri stresses the overarching themes of political interference in data, fear of reprisal within the public service, and the need for transparency and accountability in health data and governance. He frames the hearing as a pivotal moment for trust in Canadian public institutions and urges support for whistleblowers like himself.
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Speaker 0: Another Canadian whistleblower is coming forward. Chief data scientist for the Federal Government of Canada is coming forward to try to tell you, Canadian residents, what the federal government did to him in 2021 when he was trying to let the public know publicly about the statistics he was seeing after each COVID shot. Did you know back in 2021, he released this information temporarily to let you know it's the opposite of what the government was saying? And they disciplined him, told him to be quiet and said, You are not to be loyal to these statistics. You are to be loyal to the Canadian government message that they're safe and effective.
You might be saying, Odessa, as your viewers, we know they were feeding us garbage. What does it matter now? Well, it does matter because now we have proof that a senior scientist with the federal government, hired by the federal government, is whistleblowing this. He tried to before, but now he's being even louder because he happens to have a hearing this week about what's going to be the fate of him for releasing this information. And did you know that they are not saying to him, You're in trouble for trying to put this information out because it was wrong?
No. They're saying your loyalty is with your job with the federal government. Why is it that they had no problem with any of the other scientific data work that he was doing until he wanted to show you the opposite effect the vaxx was having. He also wanted to show you that it wasn't stopping transmission and that with each dose it became deadlier. So we can't just say, Oh, you know what?
It doesn't matter now Because now you can talk to what we talk about the normals out there that don't want to believe it. They want to rely on scientists and the federal government for their information. Well, you're getting a data scientist from the federal government letting you know that what these people on the side of the road at the convoy with their signs were trying to tell you was true. I want to get into this and also let you know that I actually tried to put out this episode last week, but the information I read was from someone else's substack and they got a few things wrong. I wanted to put it out last week so that you guys would attend his hearing, but I had to scrap the whole show and redo it because two of the things I said out of like 50 weren't correct, but I just had to get it right.
It was too hard to edit, so I'm putting it out now. The hearing's happening now. I'm still going to show you how you can go to his Twitter, how you can support him emotionally, and we need the entire country to put this out so that we can say, Anita, Anand, you're disgusting. You signed this document with Pfizer knowing there could be problems. And then when a data scientist who's senior with the Canadian government tries to do the right thing as a Canadian resident.
He was told to be quiet. I have the proof. I'm actually going to have you guys watch a video he put out. I'm going to show you the most important clips. And this was a video he did to a group of people who were interviewing him.
Please make sure to share this information. Thank you so much for tuning in. Let's get started. I also forgot to mention quickly, I did an ad for AquaCure last episode, and it turns out the sale is till the February. So some of you were worried that you'd missed the sale.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's a singularity which can break the reality because there is no other person in the position I am personally here. And now I will tell you why it's quite a singularity in case here. So but I will start again by saying that I'm here talking only on behalf of myself. Yes, you will be able to find out that I am the employee of the Government of Canada, CBSA, Canada Border Services Agency. But again, here, I'm coming now actually publicly with the whole of my story because my case is becoming public in two weeks from now.
And so, I was not disclosing my medical status. I was not going into any details of my correspondences with my managers, with my colleagues. I kept it confidential for me. And at the same time, I was trying to do something from within the union because many members helped me to get elected two years ago into the union, professional institute. And we were able to achieve a few results there.
But, again, it's only now that I'm opening all the files. And the way I'm doing it here, I have a portal, which what I would like to do here, I would just like to give you a quick overview of the resources, which I'm I've been building over the last five years now. So so, again, very important for me to say. I have to be very careful in what I'm saying. And then I have already included the the discipline letter investigation report, which provides you detail on the violations, on the allegations, which I am defending against myself.
And these allegations essentially stand for me talking about the data which I was able to analyze myself. And just I know people like images more than words, and I have included some of those images here for the evidence, which comes from official public from official ground of candidate data here. And in particular, one thing which I have realized, there is no need to seek for many ways of abnormalities or red flags. It's just sufficient to stick to one, but which is like the most obvious thing here. And the most obvious thing, I think, which I found myself, which normally it's enough normally for five minutes to show it to any of my neighbors or colleagues.
It's called cases cases by deceased or COVID deaths by vaccination status. So it they are published by Public Health Agency of Canada. At some point, they were start they started to publish them. And what you would like really to know, okay, does vaccine help or not? You know, so how many people are dying with COVID being vaccinated versus non vaccinated or partially vaccinated?
So, I used this result here, and I started seeing that first, it's not showing any significant improvement. And most importantly, it shows that a technique which I called algorithmic bias or some people call it data skewing is used to hide the inconvenient truth. So it has become the key platform of my electoral key pillar of my electoral platform when I was running for vice president position in my in my union. So and here, you will see specifically very important insights, which I was showing to my colleagues very efficiently. Again, I'm not fighting here.
I'm just, as a data scientist, I'm trying to show them insights, very important insights from of political interference. We, Canadians, we should trust our professionals who are developing policies for us. And if we cannot trust them, how can we trust any policies? Right? So political interference is not a new thing.
It has been there for many years. And some of you may know Shiv Chopra twenty five years ago. But here we come a modern case. It's 2021. Evidence of politically motivated data skewing by PHAC in cases following vaccination reports.
So essentially, they are using data skewing technique or algorithm based in order to hide the inconvenient truth that what you'd like really to know how many people died of COVID unvaccinated versus, let's say, four times vaccinated. And when you compute it on a weekly basis, or at least from the time when you start administering the fourth dose, you would see, there is no evidence. Actually, the evidence is negative. It's worse for them. But what they've been doing, they're counting cases which happened way before they started vaccinating.
So this is a very blunt, very bold way of diluting data when you're comparing, let's say, two scenarios with unrelated data. So, I used it as part of my platform for when I was running for the union, vice president position here. And I tried to make it as professional as possible. I talk about these key issues. One of the issues is political interference, and the other one is a very important thing, which also is marked on my website, which is fear of reprisal.
Because we looked at what is called public service employee survey. Public service So this is I hope you can see on the screen. This is the key metric which they measure the culture within different agencies. And I build web applications to to observe what is the highest fear of reprisal. And the links are all here right right here, But I already have it opened on my it's a web app.
It's a web app. You can look at it, and you can see I already have chosen here Health Canada. You would see that the lowest ranking is in marketed health products. So this is the unit in the entire government of Canada who has the lowest ranking in the field of reprisal. And I was the only one to uncover it.
And of course, that happened way before COVID, way before COVID. So that gives me a little bit of credit here that I am not just it's not about COVID. It's about the issues within public service, which I am trying to address as a scientist and possibly as a union advocate as well. Now, the key objective of this meeting today was to invite everyone to attend this meeting. If you are in Ottawa, please come in person.
It will be very interesting. They allocated three days, which I think is quite remarkable. So I will be able to show a lot of evidence plus, of course, all the background, the political different stories which happened in the background. It's called arbitration. Federal Public Service Labor Relationship Employment Board.
Speaker 0: So I tried to get this out last week, like I said, so that people could sign up in time, but I had to scrap the whole episode. I couldn't reshoot it over the weekend. So at least I'm letting you know that this is going on. I think he has hundreds attending already, so that's good. I will make sure you guys have information to his website.
Again, this is Doctor. Dimitri.
Speaker 1: I will tell you when there will be testimonials, for example, from my colleagues from two professors who were helping me to analyze the data. They're my colleagues from Ottawa U. I am also a professor at Ottawa U. And because there was huge fear of reprisal for talking about this within the Government of Canada. No one of my colleagues from the public service could even testify.
They told me, I'm not going to testify because I don't want to lose my job. And the same happened, of course, in 2021. No one wanted to ask questions. I was the only one who could ask questions because, again, my reputation was quite special by that time already. Was probably one of the most known scientists within government of Canada, particularly in the field of biometrics and video intelligence.
And I built many good tools here. And I was just very active socially, very active. So I was able to publicize this issue. And also, very important component here, I've been leading the seminars as a very senior data scientist. I had lunch and learns seminars for anyone within Gout of Canada since 2019, before the pandemic.
So for many years, many months, I was teaching my colleagues within GCCOLAB, it's called network. I was teaching them different tools to visualize different interesting, what is important, interesting datasets. And before there was COVID, everyone was interested in PSESS. In this PSESS, powerful, powerful interactive visualizations, extremely descriptive of the problem and allows you to pinpoint to the area and to the unit where the area where the problem exists. So to make the story short, I've been teaching these tools to my colleagues, and after we've done with PSESS, we move to the next one.
What was the most interesting one in 2020? You guessed. COVID cases tracking. Yes, there was another app which was tracking COVID cases. Okay, we built this one, learning something interesting from data.
And of course, after we're done with COVID cases, the next most important thing was, of course, the data related to vaccination. Because by that time, by that time, some already started asking questions, you know, can we see the real data related to vaccination? Can we see the changes in death statistics, especially among young, for example, right? But this data has become available only in August 2021. So, just two months before Monday's have been announced to public service, the data has become available.
And again, I don't need to show you all the things here. The links are provided. What I do want to encourage you, if you are interested in this subject, please register. And secondly, you will find all the answers to your questions related to data. So, as I mentioned, this is the data.
And one, the data relates to low efficacy. Well, I would put it this way. I have to be very correct. There is no evidence from post marketing data that people who are vaccinated die less of COVID or transmit less or capture less. So there is no evidence.
And even though it was getting worse and worse with Omicron, it was getting worse and worse and worse. And eventually, even some senior people within TBS also acknowledged that vaccine efficacy, they say, away after six months. And that's why you need to boost yourself every six months. For example, at some point, a senior treasury secretary executive said that, and I was kind of, wow, they actually even say that. But when I said it to myself, I was told I am criticizing the government, I'm spreading misinformation, something like that.
So the second piece of information, of course, relates to excess mortality, especially among young, among children. And this is the most horrendous thing which I have observed and many of us observed. And we cannot talk about this because my colleagues in the government of Canada are fearful. They're younger than me, and they will lose their job, and it will be very tough for them. I'm more senior, you know, right now, but this data shows very, very well that there was no excess mortality among young before vaccination, and it started after vaccination.
So, data is here. But what I'm trying to say here, there is a system which encaptures everyone, and we need not allow the system to capture us. We need to remain humans. We need to remain collegial. We need to remain friendly.
And in fact, I can tell you that the people, my colleagues developing these websites with me, these applications, they're all amazing data scientists. And I can tell you that even my directors and director generals, they're also quite amazing data scientists, quite nice people. But, you know, they're captured by this system. They're saying, We have to follow instructions, and you need to follow instructions because this is what we need to do. We need to follow instructions.
So what I'm saying here that this case is not just for me. I'm saying I'm saying that actually everyone who goes there, even my people who wrote these investigation letters and discipline me, they are uncomfortable, I think. And no one would like to be in this scenario on either side because it's the system we are fighting here against. And here is another beauty about my case. I'm coming from Soviet Union.
Right? And in the summary, I make parallels with the disaster in Chernobyl. I was in Kyiv. I was in Kyiv in grade eight when Chernobyl exploded. People this is exactly the age of my children right now when COVID exploded.
So I was in Chernobyl. And all mainstream media was saying on the radio and everyone everywhere, all good. You need to go to the parade. It was first May parade. And if you don't go, you will have problems at work.
But my dad didn't follow the instructions. He was a physicist. He had his Geiger counter to measure radiation himself, and he saw it was clicking badly on the the on the streets of Kyiv. And he told everyone, leave Kyiv immediately as far as as soon as you can. And I was one of those who was able to leave Kyiv before May 1.
And and essentially, in this way, like, my father probably saved my life and life of many other neighbors.
Speaker 0: So he's comparing us to communist countries and what they do. We've become a communist country and it woke us up during COVID with what the Public Health Agency of Canada, what the Fed knew and told us to keep taking these things. That is a communist dictatorship, telling him he has to be quiet, threatening him that he'll lose his job, and be loyal to the Fed, meaning be loyal to the government, not to the statistics you're seeing, not to the Canadian people. Here he is comparing us to this communist government. We're supposed to hate Russia and Putin, but we're doing the exact same thing here.
Speaker 1: And friends, Kunky Told, don't believe whatever they say on TV. It's a disaster. Irradiation is very bad in Kyiv. You need to especially children, you need to remove them from Kyiv. So I think that's what my dad did for myself and my my generation.
And, essentially, I have tools, data science tools, to do pretty much the same. So there are narratives. There are, of course, corporate interests. There are foreign interests, but we have moral compass. We have our duties.
And here, again, I'm not fighting my managers. I'm fighting with them. That's the most important thing here. Because I was like them myself. I took my first shot and my story here also, like, I wrote my story here that I have I've taken my own shot here.
And if you're interested, there is a little video which was made by a journalist actually for a documentary for international films festival back in '22. But I was asked by my employer to remove it because this case is becoming public. So I have put here three videos, very short ones. This is my presentation at Freedom Convoy.
Speaker 0: Isn't it interesting that the CBC went out of their way to slam the types of people involved in the convoy, which was a whole bunch of races, religions, a lot of different races and religions were there and different viewpoints on life. And they would have known about this guy trying to get this information out because he was all over back then. Although I didn't know about him, which is why I know that many of my viewers didn't know about him because I wasn't in Ottawa. Didn't the CBC and CTV, etc, interview him, considering he was a completely reliable mainstream source? The senior had a scientist in his job.
Why did they not go interview him? Well, because they were part of the cover up.
Speaker 1: That's where we met. Very spontaneous. I just talked about very carefully. I'm not representing the government. I'm not representing any religion.
I'm just seeing some data. This what it shows. It shows what it shows.
Speaker 0: And that the Public Health Agency of Canada was purposely skewing the data and using data from way before to try to skew it so the average human being wouldn't understand it. But he's going to go into this hearing and say, Here's the data. So it'll be really interesting to see what happens after his hearing. It is so, so important that he wins. If he doesn't, we're done.
We're done as a country. We've become a communist dictatorship. We can just assume that our public health agency is a hell agency. They're fraudulent, and they're a cover up society. I don't trust one thing they say ever, ever again.
They need to clean house, fire everybody at the top that was involved in telling him to be quiet, any politicians involved, they need to be fired because if they ever want us to trust again, they need to bring in the honest doctors and scientists that were whistleblowing in 2020 and 2021. There are enough of those doctors, we know who they are, they're the ones that should be on these boards, etc.
Speaker 1: This is a video which shows a seminar. So when I was put on Live Without Pay, I continued leading my seminars, but from work. And I was inviting other data scientists. So, this is a meeting with one of data scientists from UK who analyzed Pfizer paper. We were trying to build web app to automate extraction of data from Pfizer papers.
So, this is evidence. These two are used as evidence against me for this hearing. So, they are used to reference specifically in the discipline letter and investigation that as if I'm against the messaging of the government of Canada. So, I've been suspended without pay for five days. Four, for the messages for spreading publicly and discussing publicly, messages which go contrary to the messaging of the government of Canada, which is that vaccines are safe and efficient.
So that's exactly how they stated, that I post information which goes contrary to my employees' messaging that vaccines are safe and efficient. But just to provide you a little more background, this was the first discipline. Then there was another one two years later, eight days of suspension without pay. And then another one just half a year ago, ten days of suspension without pay. And all of them are now rooted into this hearing.
So essentially, what it means that if I lose, the next level will be, as they say, up to dismissal. But again, I hope that it's effort for all of us. We're living in the country. I say it all the time. We're not in Russia.
Something like that will not be possible in Russia or Soviet Union. But because we're in Canada, I trust that our system is still very strong. Democratic system entity will allow to look into the evidence and see what were the options for me in my case. I saw the data. I showed it, and I think it is very useful for everyone.
I've done everything I could in my position to alert about the red flags which I observed. So that's why when I ran for the union position, I said, This is the core. It's a root problem. I have a dedicated page for this, which is called Evidence of Fear of Reprisal Within Public Search. So I hope you can see it on my screen right now, but you can click on the links provided.
It has been there for many years. Fear of reprisal. So you would see it's actually in PHAC Health Canada, specifically in the unit which deal with regulation of health products. And I know how it is done because people were contacting me for the as I was running for the union position. I've heard their stories.
Speaker 0: So if you didn't catch that, he said the worst are the people in charge of regulation of health products, that they are the most corrupt, but it's fear of reprisal. People that are the most unhappy, fear of reprisal is the worst in regulation of our health products, which is the most important thing for our bodies. Time to wake up that last neighbor of yours that's still listening to the Public Health Agency of Canada.
Speaker 1: This hearing is about me not following managerial's, what they call, expectations and not showing duty of loyalty. Because if I publish information which goes contrary to the my employees' messaging, it can be seen as not doing my duty of loyalty. So that's why I put in essence here, this hearing is about the limits to the duty of loyalty and insubordination in a democratic country like Canada.
Speaker 2: Dimitri, for your information, in Alberta, there was a law passed last year called the Regulated Professions Act. If you are regulated under a professional college, quite apart from the government, you have theoretically the freedom to speak your mind providing it's not done on company or government time or their computer. That is now in Alberta a protected statement.
Speaker 1: I know about that and every time I find information like this I will post it in my newsletter. So in fact, it is somewhere here. Alberta introduces I found it right away. Alberta introduces Neutrality Act to protect free speech expression across regulated professions. Why it matters for union and public servants across Canada.
This is exactly what needs to be done not only for Alberta, but for all public servants across Canada. Because how Canadians can trust public servants if they have fear of reprisal of speaking truth to the power?
Speaker 0: That will never happen in British Columbia under the David EBNDP government. Never, never, never. Maybe The Prairies, Alberta, maybe Saskatchewan, maybe even Manitoba. But David Eby is part of the cover up. We have to get rid of the NDP.
Those of you that are still voting NDP, we have to get rid of them for this sole reason alone. We have to get rid of Bonnie Henry. It's just horrible. We don't have enough nurses and doctors. They got rid of around 10% of nurses and doctors who didn't want to take these shots or the second shot.
They pretend it's a lower percentage, but I've spoken to doctors who said that they're not counting all the doctors and nurses that took early retirement because they didn't want to take the second one. So if they add those back in, it's around ten percent. We're still having long lineups because of it. So God bless Doctor. Dimitri.
Go to ivim.ca to follow what's happening with his hearing. Again, I'm sorry I didn't get it out last week. I had to redo the episode. So thank you so much for tuning in. Please share this widely.
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Breaking: 4 Minutes Of Clips Showing Canada's First Nations People EXPOSING The Corruption In The "Truth" And Reconciliation Industry.. https://t.co/9VNroPnTqk
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Indigenous voices condemn corruption in the reconciliation business, pointing to the missing $120,000,000 and accusing Chief Greg Deshleigh of avoiding questions about it while pursuing photo ops and development. They note comparisons with FSIN funding of over $34,000,000 and question when RCMP will step in. Audits set back Indigenous progress and they demand accountability, asking, "Why is nobody letting our people know what's going on?" They insist, "the elephant in the room" must be addressed and claim, "it's not the white guys causing financial harm to us Aboriginal people. It's our own chief and council." Calls for forensic audits and emergency meetings grow; some warn, "If you don't want questions about how you're spending your money, then raise it privately." They reference defunding of cross-country digs with little reporting, a Dallas Brody documentary on reconciliation, and suggest removing the United Nations from Canada and enforcing federal acts.
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Speaker 0: More and more indigenous are starting to speak out about the corruption in the reconciliation business.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the missing $120,000,000, chief Greg Deshleigh will not ask or answer anything about that $120,000,000. He'll be all over social media. He'll be all over taking photo ops, talking whatever single other thing, development, everything. But when it comes to 1 a $120,000,000 he's absent. Look at what happened, what's happening with the FSIN and only over $34,000,000 Not only, but that's a lot of money, but still compared to Frog Lake, 120,000,000.
He won't fix his backyard.
Speaker 2: At what point do the RCMP get involved? At what point did the RCMP say, we'll take it from here? How much more dollars do we need to find out?
Speaker 3: When we are finding things like this audit, it sets us back as indigenous people. Just when we get a little bit ahead, something like this happens.
Speaker 4: Why is nobody letting our people know what's going on? We should have be having emergency meetings right now. We've gotta talk about the elephant in the room. It's not the white guys causing financial harm to us Aboriginal people. It's our own chief and council.
Speaker 5: They dip into that? Yeah. What do you call an election? You drive roads? What area?
That's why they get in and keep getting in. You got too many poor, vulnerable, young people. They're all into drugs and shit on their seats. Sure. I wanna freeze their asses, get a lawyer to start a forensic audit.
Just two things are starting.
Speaker 0: Well, just in time for orange shirt day, a massive scandal has been exposed. It's really bad.
Speaker 2: What we are wanting is answers from the executive. Their silence speaks volumes. Maybe if we were to give them an honorarium and travel, they would show up.
Speaker 6: But there's just too much suffering and too much downhill situation going on in these reserves for this to continue. That federal act needs to be enforced and the members of each of these nations, or these tribes or bands, they need to know where the money's going. And when taxpayers of Canada are funding something, they have a right to know where the money's going. And that's my baseline principle. If you're taking public money, taxpayers have the right to know where it's going and how it's being spent.
If you don't want questions about how you're spending your money, then raise it privately and no one will ask you any questions. And at the same time that I was thrown out very quietly, the federal government pulled all further funding for the cross country digs that were supposed to be going on. And it was just very quietly rolled out. None of the mainstream media reported that they were too busy coming after me broadcasting my picture across the country. And meantime, there was a huge amount of funding going to digs that were supposedly taking place at something like 700 different locations across the country.
Not one bone had been found. And so the federal government defunded the program. But no reporting on that by Rosemary Barton. Where were you guys reporting on that? You don't report on probably the biggest story that hit this year that the whole program had been defunded because nothing was being found.
So that was quite something.
Speaker 0: I have Dallas Brody backstage. She's waiting to come on to give updates about her new documentary that's about to come out to expose the reconciliation business.
Speaker 6: It's just popped open like a jack in the box. Here you are. This is what you get. And this is what's happening. And you can't complain.
And if you do complain, guess what happens? Guess what you're called?
Speaker 5: We
Speaker 0: need to get the United Nations the hell out of Canada.
Speaker 6: Mary I know we do.
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I just caught up on the secret 2025 Bilderberg Meeting, which is currently discussing depopulation, immigration, and mass surveillance. Notably, Canada's Philippe Champagne and Chrystia Freeland are attending. Also, Pfizer's CEO Albert Bourla is part of these closed-door discussions.
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Dan Dicks reports from the Bilderberg conference in Stockholm, an annual secret meeting of influential global elites from finance, military, politics, and media. The conference operates under Chatham House rules, ensuring no attribution of statements. Depopulation and migration are on the agenda.
Dicks confronted Peter Thiel about Palantir's surveillance capabilities and Thiel's connections to Jeffrey Epstein. Palantir, co-founded by Thiel, is allegedly setting up a "Big Brother" surveillance system. Thiel abruptly left the conference early.
Canadian attendees include Finance Minister Philippe Champagne and Minister of International Trade Kristia Freeland, who has attended in the past. Freeland wrote a book warning about secret societies but now participates in Bilderberg.
Dicks also mentions a protest planned against the Bilderberg Group and anticipates further interactions with attendees at the airport. He encourages viewers to follow his coverage on pressfortruth.ca and support his work.
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Speaker 0: You're setting up a big brother surveillance system, and people know it, sir. You think the American people want this surveillance tech being used against them? People are waking up to what you're doing there, sir. That's why we're here covering this. There's a lot of heavy kind of tech representation here and military men who are preparing for something.
I've been covering the Bilderberg conference for nineteen years now. The first one I ever went to was in 2006 in Ottawa. There are some of the the most powerful and influential people in the world. Mark Carney, our new prime minister, is also a Bilderberger.
Speaker 1: Bilderberger Group, an informal and off the record conference for political and business elites in a forum that would allow for candid and frank discussions without the fear of being quoted or recorded. Thus, the meetings are held in secret and are by invitation only. For almost sixty years, the Bilderberg Group has been meeting behind closed doors in luxury hotels around the world to discuss in secret their plan for global control of world events and markets. The members of the Bilderberg Group have such an influence over the media that until recent years, their name and existence has been quietly kept from the general public through a veritable media blackout. With the advent of new social media tools and advances in technology, the Bilderberg Group is now finding it almost impossible to stay out of the spotlight and hide their powerful cabal from the public.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Liberty Talk. I'm Odessa Orlovitz. I already have Dan right here with us because we have twenty minutes because he is in Stockholm at Bilderberg. I'm so excited that you made this time for me, Dan. We want to quickly show a clip of you confronting Peter Thiel, and then you will tell my audience who he is, why it matters.
At Bilderberg, they're actually talking about depopulation. I am basically letting my audience know who you are and why they should go follow you while you're at Bilderberg because it's really exciting that you're there. Let's just quickly show this clip.
Speaker 0: Mr. Thiel, do you have any comments about Palantir's surveillance of the American people, sir, or any of your connections to Jeffrey Epstein? I think people are rather concerned about that last particular one. You're setting up a big brother surveillance system and people know it, sir. You think the American people want this surveillance tech being used against them?
Any comments at all on the Epstein connections? You're meeting with them? People are waking up to what you're doing there sir that's why we're here covering this. Wow. Peter Thiel was booking it.
That man picked up the pace. The second the word Epstein came out of CMD started getting a little faster, but stone cold Peter Thiel. Of course, co founded Talan Chew with Alex Karp, who is still here. And these are the guys who are setting up the Big Brother Surveillance System essentially to track trace and database everyone, not just Americans, you may have heard me say that, but literally everyone and that's a big reason of part of the reason why he is here. There is a lot of heavy kind of tech representation here and military men who are preparing for something.
Speaker 2: There's your first clip. Thank you so much for being over there. Tell us where everyone can follow you because you're putting out lots of stories about this. Besides Facebook, Dan Dicks, where can people find you?
Speaker 0: Well, the best place to go is probably pressfortruth.ca. There you can pretty much find everything. I've recently been returned to YouTube, believe it or not. So I got my channel back on YouTube, but, I'm also posting a lot of my Build A Bird coverage on X, it's dandickspft over there on, X, formerly Twitter. So I've I've I've been putting a lot of stuff up there, but, basically, pressfortruth.ca is probably the best place to go.
Speaker 2: Well, you are a well known documentary filmmaker and show host. So what is sort of why you wanted to go over there? There's depopulation on the agenda, and who is Palantir? Why should we care?
Speaker 0: Well, I've been covering the Bilderberg Conference for nineteen years now. The first one I ever went to was in 2006 in Ottawa and, I was hooked from the very first moment. It's in fact the Build A Bird Conference by coverage of it that, like a month later, I got home and decided this is what I want to do with my life. And I I launched Press for Truth in February, one month after my coverage of the very you know, my my first Bilderberg, and I've been coming to pretty much everyone that I've been able to ever since. I've covered them consecutively since 2012 up until of course the point where I was not allowed to fly out of my own country due to being a prisoner during, you know, the years of 2020 to 2022 or so.
We all know why, but I think it's of the utmost importance to cover this particular event because what we're talking about here, what we're dealing with is around 120 people on average, and these are some of the most powerful and influential people in the world. We're talking about the heads of finance, heads of military, the politicians and royalty and media moguls and a lot of people who can really pull the strings on world shaping events. So, when you come, you get an idea of some of the things you can expect to see in the near future just by simply paying attention to who they are inviting and some of the things that they are talking talking about. And, you know, you mentioned Peter Thiel. We already showed that clip.
The reason why I, you know, nailed him there, in a confrontation was because he's here and, he's secretly, you know, meeting with some of the global elite and he is the guy who co founded Palantir with Alex Karp. This is like a defense contract where they engage with the military on all sorts of things, but recently the Trump administration has expanded Palantir's capabilities to essentially to put point point, you know, point the cameras on the American people and to pretty much pretty much surveil them, you know, all through and through. It's like essentially setting up the big brother surveillance control grid is what they're working on. So I decided to confront him about that. And as you saw from the clip, also brought up the fact that this guy has met with Jeffrey Epstein.
Like this, you know, came out not too long ago. He's may have accepted some funds, from, you know, you know, Jeffrey Epstein. I wish I thought of asking him that at the time, but you know, it's, it's kind of tricky sometimes when all of a sudden, boom, he's there and I got to try to think of what to say on the spot. But yeah, I ended up hitting him up on the Palantir surveillance control grid, and the ties to, Jeffrey Epstein, but you know, this is why I'm here because sometimes you see some people who are actually not on the participants list, so you can't really trust the official list. But, the list has come out and I will document any discrepancies that we do find in the list.
And as you mentioned, there is a pretty interesting topic on the agenda. Literally depopulation and migration is one of the topics. Like, that's pretty big. So, you know, obviously migration, you know, they're they're using this right now to divide the West, in in a in a in a lot of ways. But in terms of depopulation, you gotta wonder, are are they talking about this in terms of this is something, you know, we need to work on, you know, decreasing or is this something we need to work on increasing?
I think they're they're they're going for global depopulation, and there's really only two ways that you can do that. If you want to depopulate the earth, you either got to increase the global death rate, or you have to decrease the global birth rate. Or I suppose you could do a combination of the two, but we're essentially already seeing that, right now with the poisoning of our food and water and air and the amount of chemicals were constantly bombarded with, which is essentially kind of already adding to that cause of decreasing the birth rate and increasing the death rate, but that should tell you a lot, you know, when some of the world's most powerful and influential people are meeting behind closed doors under strict secrecy, completely locked down by security to talk about things like depopulating the earth. It's absolutely mind boggling and the media doesn't report on it. That's why I'm here.
Speaker 2: So am I correct that they're not allowed to bring their phones in and all that stuff? And they're not allowed into the meetings?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Nothing is allowed to be recorded. They sweep the place for bugs, you know, before the meeting takes place. And they're under something, very strict rules that's referred to as Chatham House rules. And, what that means is they can they can talk a little bit about some of the things that may have been discussed at the meeting, but they're not allowed to say who said what.
They can't attribute any quotes to any particular people. So anytime I've tried to get information out of these guys, it's it's it's been a lot of, you know, running around because they stick to the the Chatham House rules, which just shows you just how unbelievably secret this meeting is. And you gotta think if if there was, let's say, 120, like, movie stars and and actors, you know, musicians and and athletes who are meeting in in this this building right there behind me, the whole world would want to be knowing what are they doing? What are they talking about in there? But here you have again, men royalty prime ministers and presidents, you know, heads of finance literally discussing the fate of the world.
The type of stuff that's going to affect you and me in the very near future and, basically the media has been instructed to not only not cover it, but there's about 24 or so, I think that I counted on this year's list of media who are inside the building and they're never gonna report on it. People from Atlantic, people from The Economist, people from Bloomberg, The New York Times, there's a bunch of them who are in there. Mhmm. But, you're never gonna hear anything about Bildenburg from them.
Speaker 2: Who's there from Canada?
Speaker 0: So this year, it's interesting. There's only, there's there's three people. There's this one guy named Murray something. I I kept I don't know his last name. I'm not super familiar with this guy, but he's apparently the head of British Petroleum, which is interesting to have a Canadian as the head of British Petroleum.
But there's also Philippe Champagne, the minister of finance, here in Canada, who actually was recently asked in parliament about his attendance and if he's gonna come to Build A Bird. And, he just kind of laughed it off and said, why are you so interested in where I'm going? Are you in love with me or something? Basically, was just like making a joke of it all. And then you've got Kristia Freeland as well, who has, you know, she's here again.
I documented her last year in Spain, the year before in Portugal, and of course, she is now the minister of of, of international trade and of transportation. Seems like she's potentially being demoted a little bit from her previous position of deputy prime minister, but you know, that could be because of the fact that Mark Carney our new prime minister is also a builder burger. So yeah, you've got three notable ones here and I find it interesting that the Bilderberg group seems to be so interested in Canadian finance ministers in particular, you know, you got this Philip Philippe Francois, Francois Philippe champagne or whatever his name is, who's the minister of finance. You've got, Kristi a freelance who was the minister of finance when she was coming at a time and also Bill Marnold has also attended the Bildenburg conference while he was the minister of finance. So for whatever reason, they they often seem to want to invite Canadian ministers of finance.
So but, right now they have one of those. They have the other guy from BP, British Petroleum and also, Kristia Freeland. And, you know, last time she was the deputy prime minister, I remember trying to look up her itinerary, and it did not say where she was on these particular days. So I wonder if any Canadians are gonna be aware right now that their minister of trade and international transport and international trade and all that is is secretly meeting with some of the world's global elite right here in, in Stockholm. In case people didn't know, she actually wrote a book.
She wrote a book. I can't remember what it's called right now, but it really touched on the secret society. She mentions Davos. She mentions Bildenburg in this book, and this is from like over a decade ago. In the context that these are international conferences that she was essentially almost kind of warning about at the time, but now she's completely flipped script and now she's literally a member and you know, so, we've managed to document, footage of her arriving.
She just got in today actually. So it's official now. Yeah, she's here and we have proof.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The fact that nobody has their phones and no one's allowed to report on what's going on there, we'll never know what they say about depopulation. And in fact, another article from scientists, real scientists and doctors has come out saying, Uh-oh, whoops, this thing may have screwed up some women's ovaries. Whoops, whoo. It's all going to be covered up anyways, but I'm so glad you're there to confront people.
Is there anything else on your agenda that you're really hoping to do before you leave?
Speaker 0: Yeah. I mean, tomorrow's going to be a big day. There is a huge protest actually that's being organized here in Stockholm against the Build A Beard group specifically. They're gonna be starting like in downtown, and they're gonna march all the way to the Grand Hotel. So that should be very interesting.
We'll we'll see what goes on with that. And then of course Sunday when all the Build A Burgers leave is typically a great time to get some face to face conversations and sometimes especially at the airport. Yeah, I'm often get a lot of good conversations with them at the airport when they leave. So that's gonna be happening on Sunday. So I look forward to that and people can look forward to that too.
But I'll give you one little interesting tidbit of information here that I just discovered like an hour ago and I'm starting to kind of put the pieces together. Peter Thiel, it looks to me like he just left. Like, he just booked it out of here. Okay. And the reason why I think so is because he left with his luggage, and you gotta consider what's happening right now with Iran and Israel.
And the fact that, he's running Palantir and probably had to take off to his buddies in Tel Aviv or something because it's very bizarre that he would leave so early. But when you consider, you know, what's happening right now in the world, it's like he's got some bigger things to deal with right now. So I found that a little bit shocking and interesting. Like he came when I confronted him yesterday, and he's already gone this morning, you know, on on the first day of the meeting, essentially. This is the first day, and and he's already gone.
So very, very strange for him to to show up and leave again. But when you consider what's happening right now in the world, I guess it kinda makes sense.
Speaker 2: Have you covered Palantir extensively so people can go follow you on that?
Speaker 0: I haven't, actually. I I I would like to do, like, a a stand alone video on Palantir, but I haven't done that yet. I've just been keeping up with some of the newer stuff that Trump administration has been doing in terms of turning Palantir on the American people. So yeah, I'd love to do a deep dive on that very soon, but running into Peter Thiel, I couldn't let up the opportunity to confront this guy about the fact of, you know, they're setting up a big brother surveillance Orwellian control grid. And I don't know if you could tell, but he looked
Speaker 2: Angry. Yeah.
Speaker 0: He looked angry and agitated and he was walking like militantly and so fast.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 0: Really really disliked those particular questions, but you know, you're not going to get in these kind of questions with these types of guys without coming to something like this. And I could tell you a funny little story about how I got that confrontation. I haven't told anybody this. So this is a first for you guys, but this is, this is cool. I was just at the right place at the right time.
Let me tell you, I was just standing there and this guy approaches these cops behind me and I just hear him say, excuse me, my client is about to walk in and he doesn't have his lanyard with him. Is that going to be a problem? And the cops are like, who's your client? They pull out a list and I just hear him say, Peter Thiel. And I'm just sitting there like listening to this guy going, is this really happening?
And then there and then the cops like, yeah, that that shouldn't be a problem. And so this is Teal's bodyguards. So they then walk all the way up the side of the building. So I decided to follow them. I followed them all the way up and sure enough out of a car way up there pops out Peter Teal and, it's just me Peter Thiel and it's two bodyguards and they had the, you know, we had the whole walkway all the way back down to the entrance where I was able to confront them with those questions.
So it was like a case of just really being at the right place at the right time. It just kind of worked out too perfectly for me, and I was very, very happy to get that confrontation.
Speaker 2: God had your back. Now, guys, Dan Dix has gone all the way over there paying for this by himself. He didn't ask me to do this, but it's your birthday and you have fronted a ton of money to go there to cover this for us for free. If you would like to donate a coffee or anything more, it would be great if you could donate to Dan Dick's trip there because you're doing this for us and I appreciate it. Where can people donate to you?
Speaker 0: Well, in any of my most recent videos at pressfortruth.ca, you'll find a link to my go get funding campaign. I launch one of those pretty much every year. These trips usually cost me around 3 or $4 or so for the flights and the accommodations and the travel and the food and all that. So I usually try to raise around, around that much. So that's kind of what I'm trying to raise now.
And I usually, you know, don't I walk away at a loss or or sometimes I, you know, break even but, you know, yeah, if anybody wants to chip into that, it would be very greatly appreciated. If you do not want to use Go Get Funding, you could also just go to pressfor truth.cadonate and there there's all sorts of different options, But I'm here either way and I'm gonna continue to bang out the videos as best as I can. But certainly anybody who wants to chip in is gonna be greatly appreciated. My birthday is tomorrow, which there's so much going on. There's like global uprisings being set by people all over, you know, like Antifa and God knows who else.
Donald Trump is trying to organize some sort of massive military parade. We've got this huge Bilderberg protest that's gonna be happening right here in front of the hotel. And yeah, it all happens to fall on my birthday. So honestly, I couldn't wish for a better way to celebrate my birthday than to be here exposing corruption on the front lines. So, thank you so much for letting everybody know about that.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you're watching on Facebook or Rumble or Liberty, it will be in the description how you can donate to Dan's trip over there. It's his birthday. I will donate to you right after this show. I'm so appreciative that you made time for little old me, and I really look forward to all your stories about Bilderberg and everything else.
I'm sure a lot of you know who Dan Dix is. Of course, you do, but if not, go follow him on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Press for Truth, Dan Dix. Thank you so, so much.
Speaker 0: No problem. I'll let you guys know. I actually did make a documentary film about the Bildenburg Group, specifically the Canadian connection to the Bildeberg Group. There's a huge section in my film that focuses directly on the Canadian connection to Bildeberg. It's called The Turning Point.
It's only a forty five minute, fifty minute film. You know, it's one of my shorter films, but it is available on my YouTube channel. You guys can go watch that for free. If you wanna learn more about the Bildenburg Group and specifically the Canadian connection to it, I would suggest you check out The Turning Point. In the spring
Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty four, Joseph Redinger, Polish political adviser and founder of the European movement that would lead to the founding of the European Union started the Bilderberg Group, an informal and off the record conference for political and business elites from European and Western nations. With the help of prince Bernhard of The Netherlands, along with other powerful politicians and businessmen, they organized the first annual Bildebrand meeting at the Hotel de Bildebrand in Oosterbeek, Netherlands. The Prince, a former executive for IG Farben and a former Nazi SS party member before the war, was also an influential executive in the oil industry working for Royal Dutch Petroleum. As a member of the Dutch royal family and the father of the current matriarch and fellow Bilderberger Queen Beatrix, Bernhardt was a very powerful and influential member of the European community. The original stated goals of the Bilderberg Group were to bring together the leaders of business, finance, and politicians from Europe and Western nations in a forum that would allow for candid and frank discussions of international issues without the fear of being quoted or recorded.
Thus, the meetings are held in secret and are by invitation only. For almost sixty years, the Bildenburg Group has been meeting behind closed doors in luxury hotels around the world to discuss in secret their plan for global control of world events and markets. Some notable members have included the Rothschild banking family, Queen Beatrix of The Netherlands, Prince Philip and Prince Charles of the British Royal Family, international financier David Rockefeller, and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. The members of the Bilderberg Group have such an influence over the media that until recent years, their name and existence has been quietly kept from the general public through a veritable media blackout. With the advent of new social media tools and advances in technology, the independent media has been exposing these annual meetings on an increasing scale.
We have reached the turning point. The Bilderberg Group is now finding it almost impossible to stay out of the spotlight and hide their powerful cabal from the public.
Speaker 2: I will put that in the description as well for sure.
Speaker 0: Cool. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I look forward to seeing you soon.
Speaker 0: Absolutely. Thanks for having me, Odessa. You keep up the great work. Talk to you later.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dan. Okay, bye. I'm so lucky that I was able to get Dan for the twenty minutes. He's so busy over there. I'm so grateful.
Do check out Bilderberg, do check out what they have listed as the topics they're covering, and make sure to follow Dan for updates. He's so great at what he does, and I'm sure he'll be talking more about Palantir in the future. Norm and I always say there's two things that are going to happen. Either the Democrats will bring in digital ID where we're tracked and traced, or the Republicans will eventually bring in digital ID where we're tracked and traced. I don't see us getting out of digital ID and tracking and tracing either way.
The Democrats have their excuses and then the Republicans will say, Well, we have to do digital ID because there's so many people coming in illegally. We have criminals. So in my book, it all ends in more tracking and tracing, unfortunately. Opt out of it as long as you can. Put up a fight.
Say no. That's the only thing we can do is continue to say no to the tracing and tracking and forced digitalization. I think if there hadn't been a pushback, we already wouldn't be using cash anymore, but they know there's a huge pushback. So continue to push back no matter who is in power. It is complicated with immigration, how they flooded illegals into America.
They're trying to find everybody, but that doesn't mean that they can get away with overstepping. But it seems like right now, as long as you have a cell phone, they can find you anyways. I don't know what's going to happen, but it's such an interesting topic. I appreciate you guys tuning in. Quick message from my sponsor and I'll see you guys next time.
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It figures that Albert Bourla who is the CEO of Pfizer pharmaceuticals was included in the secretive meetings at Bilderberg, where they make decisions about the planet that no one is allowed to know... https://t.co/eiTLwU1LXW
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Leaked audio of Prime Minister Mark Carney telling his elite $$$ buddies how they will "make a lot of money" off of their net zero plan (while the rest of us plebs go broke.) https://t.co/o3gqTYLVng
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An entity declared it will achieve net zero emissions by 2050, with specific targets for 2025 and 2030 to allow for short-term measurement. Implicitly, the entity anticipates significant financial gains from this transition, believing that being carbon competitive will create value as the world moves in this direction.
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Speaker 0: Stood up and said, you know, we're gonna manage to net zero by 2050. Actually, we're gonna have specific targets by 2025 and 02/1930, you can measure the short term. And they don't say this quite as loudly, but what they're also saying and thinking, and we're gonna make a lot of money off of this because, actually, this is the way the world's headed. I mean, I'm sure exactly where we get there, but to be carbon competitive is is is gonna be value creating.
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Shocking Cover Up By "Health" Canada, And This One Is Not About The Vax. Please Share This Story Widely. (These are just short clips from the full interview.) https://t.co/LjPxKF4Ppu
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A documentary alleges Health Canada suppressed a natural treatment for bipolar disorder, Empower Plus, after initial studies showed it was more effective than standard antidepressants. Following positive media coverage and government investment in further studies, Health Canada allegedly shut down the research and the company producing Empower Plus, with armed officers.
The documentary suggests Health Canada's actions were influenced by the pharmaceutical industry, due to conflicts of interest. One family recounts how Health Canada allegedly interfered with their access to supplements needed for mental stability, despite their pleas. A dream is described where serpents, representing the pharmaceutical industry, are defeated with a small pin, symbolizing that the battle against Health Canada is actually a battle against the pharmaceutical industry. The documentary aims to awaken Canadians to this alleged crisis and preserve their mental well-being from government interference.
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Speaker 0: Welcome to Liberty Talk. I'm Odessa Orlowitz. I have been so lucky that I was allowed to watch this documentary that I feel is probably one of the most important documentaries that have ever been made. It doesn't matter where you live in the world to see what Health Canada is doing to people, to their health, to the country. Even the mainstream news has done a piece about this back when they were allowed to.
There's no way the mainstream news would be allowed to do the clips that they did about what happened to this family now. The tour is so important where they go into community and show this film so that more people can awaken to the crisis that we're in. It's so, so important that Canada sees this documentary.
Speaker 1: An Alberta company has finally won approval to market pills for bipolar disorder.
Speaker 2: The day following CTV News covering the first study that came out on Empower Plus showing its profound effect, Health Canada says, okay. We need to shut this down.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, we had Health Canada breathing down our neck. They came in with armed officers, guns drawn.
Speaker 4: The question is why would they put that much energy and money into persecuting a small player in what is a massive industry?
Speaker 3: When you use excessive force, it's to send a message.
Speaker 4: Where they're spending millions of dollars to challenge some small bit player, you know that that is a threat to whatever they're trying to predict.
Speaker 0: Let's watch a few more clips.
Speaker 2: Was in February. It showed that it is over three times more effective than your standard antidepressants. That study would make national news.
Speaker 1: In medical news tonight, there is new reason for optimism for sufferers of disorder, a condition that causes manic depression and a condition that affects hundreds of thousands of Canadians.
Speaker 5: Bipolar illness ran through Tony Stefan's family. His wife Debbie committed suicide. His son and daughter were also ill and on drugs that didn't work.
Speaker 6: She had already been taking medication for over four and a half years and she was going to suicide. It wasn't helping. My son was on nine hundred milligrams of lithium per day and was absolutely out of control.
Speaker 7: The decrease in their symptoms is of a magnitude that is is very impressive. Any medication that ever had this effect would catch a lot of people's attention.
Speaker 5: In fact, the Alberta government is investing more than half a million dollars to fund more rigorous studies
Speaker 0: of these supplements.
Speaker 8: The next morning my phone rang.
Speaker 2: They said, who gave you permission to speak on national television last night about what you've been doing with these vitamins and minerals?
Speaker 8: I didn't realize I have to have your authority.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden we had Health Canada breathing down her neck.
Speaker 8: They just said, Listen, you're going to shut it down, and that's it. You don't have a choice.
Speaker 3: Halfway through the trial, Health Canada shuts it down.
Speaker 2: Health Canada is now in the business of suppressing science. They're trying to shut down the biggest scientific discovery in the field of mental health that's ever been made.
Speaker 9: When you've got the agency that's supposed to regulate the drug supply is actually being paid by the makers of drugs, there's an obvious conflict of interest.
Speaker 10: Imagine how my father and the rest of us in our family felt when Health Canada, the regulator, stands between us and getting the nutrients that my brother needed for his mental stability. And now we're fighting for our lives. We're fighting for our sanity. I remember my dad being on the phone with Health Canada agents pleading with them. Please let us get these supplements to the people that need them.
There's going to be deaths. There's gonna be suicides. People are relying on this for the mental stability, and you are standing in the way, and this is not okay.
Speaker 2: Having that trepidation, that fear of the government ended up having a dream one night.
Speaker 8: I remember he was in a very serious mood, and he sat down with me at the table. He said, hey. I had this dream last night. And he said, it wasn't a dream because I was there. I was absolutely there.
He said, I came into this room, and there were two very, very large serpents. I was so afraid. I was just taken over by fear of this thing. I'm gonna go kill this thing. It's gonna eat me.
And I looked and looked and looked, and on the floor, I found a little hat pin.
Speaker 2: And he was instructed to pick up this pin and poke
Speaker 1: him, and he did. And they deflated. There was nothing to be feared.
Speaker 8: The pin represented the great weapon, and all it was was just gone. And the other one,
Speaker 2: gone. Those two serpents represented the two serpents that are part of the occult symbolism that's attached to the pharmaceutical industry. That the battle that they were fighting with Health Canada wasn't a battle against Health Canada, it was a battle against the pharmaceutical industry itself and that there was nothing to fear.
Speaker 0: When I saw this movie, it's hard for me to not almost go into a depression. I've had a really hard time, like I'm verged of tears lately on what our country's become and how Health Canada has just been such an integral part of destroying us. I'll ask you, David, how do you get through every day?
Speaker 2: One step at a time. This is a big thing to take on, and it always has been. So it's just one step at a time being guided and allowing us to be instrumental in not only preserving the freedom of Canadians, but also in preserving their mental well-being regardless of the government interference.
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Breaking News. Staff members at CFIA have started leaking an emergency meeting they were called to about their bosses wanting to cull the ostriches at Universal Ostrich Farm in BC, Canada . Here is one question that was answered... https://t.co/CISFYr0Aja
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I'm not sure about the exact duration an ostrich can shed the virus, as ostriches aren't intensively cultivated in Canada. I haven't specifically researched this for ostriches. However, I can certainly look into it further to provide a more precise timeframe if you'd like a specific answer.
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Speaker 0: Nice question about how long, can the bird shed the virus, and I think it it sort of depends on a few things. So I thought maybe you could comment on on that. Yeah. I'm not sure that I've seen specifically for an ostrich exactly how long they that an ostrich can shed the virus. And, you know, we're talking about the species that we don't intensively cultivate in in Canada.
Right? So and I don't know that I've read it particularly, but I can take a double look for an exact time frame, if Mike would like your specific answer.
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I came across a shocking video where a pilot, unaware he was being recorded, confessed to regularly dumping toxic chemicals from his plane. This 18-minute episode is crucial for those who doubt the reality of these actions. Please help spread the word.
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Breaking: Pilot who didn't know he was being recorded is caught admitting to regularly dumping T0XIC chemicals from his plane all over humanity and nature. Important to listen to the whole 18 minute episode... Video of him at the end as well. This proves to the deniers it is not conspiracy theory. Please share widely.
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Welcome to Liberty Talk. Odessa Orlowitz shares a crucial video of a woman confronting a pilot about chemical dumping in her neighborhood. The pilot does not deny the allegations. This woman has collected over 20 rain samples showing high levels of aluminum, barium, and other metals after cloud seeding flights. She expresses concern for her community's health, linking the chemicals to rising health issues like early-onset dementia. Despite her attempts to reach out to the responsible parties, she feels ignored. The video highlights the need for transparency regarding the chemicals used in cloud seeding operations. Odessa encourages viewers to follow the woman's Substack for more information and evidence.
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Speaker 0: Welcome to Liberty Talk. I'm Odessa Orlowitz. Really important here that we get this information out. A hero has a video of her confronting a pilot about what they've been dumping all over her and her family and her neighborhood. This pilot does not even deny it.
This video needs to go viral. They're not even denying that they're dumping certain chemicals all over us, and this woman is a hero. And I suggest you all follow her Substack, which is mellowcat.substack.com. M e l l 0 w k a t Substack Com. I'm gonna quickly show you this short video where she has this guy recorded.
He doesn't know he's being recorded, where he doesn't deny at all what they're dumping. And then I'm gonna show you what she has to say in her substack with all the proof of the chemicals that she has collected. This woman's a hero. Quick quick message from my sponsor. We'll get right to the show.
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Speaker 1: So this is the Modesto Modesto Jet Center. K? Yes. Great. Hey.
Thank you.
Speaker 0: Good. What can I
Speaker 1: do for you? I'm here to you're Tim. Right?
Speaker 2: Nope. Oh, no. No. I don't know a Tim. Jody?
No. Don't know. Well, I know a Jody.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Jody Fisher?
Speaker 2: No. Yeah. I know Jody Fisher.
Speaker 1: You do? Okay. Good. Yeah. And you're then who are you?
Speaker 2: I'm one of the other captains.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Yeah. For okay. Great. So come on outside or not.
We're just whatever. Are you free now?
Speaker 2: No. I I gotta re flyer.
Speaker 1: Okay. So I I have paperwork for you that I wanna give to you. So hang tight. I'll go get it. But then, we've been trying to reach Jody and you for a long time.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And we are tired of you dumping heavy metals all all over our county. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not the one to talk to about that.
Speaker 1: No, but you are, but you're the one that's doing it. So I've been taking rain samples. I have over 20 samples. And every time you fly, we get high amounts of aluminum, barium, strontium, titanium, magnesium. So I wanna know, are you aware of what you're doing?
I know you think it's like to increase water supply to for Trilock and Modesto, but it's not really happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You can you can talk to
Speaker 1: I've tried. I've called them and they're not calling me back. So we're now getting really involved, and now we're gonna bring something legal against your company.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, you can talk to them about that for sure.
Speaker 1: I know. But I want you to know though, like, we are real people underneath what you're doing. You spray right over our houses. We hear you. We know you.
We see you. We're watching your planes and your patterns. K? Yeah. It's twice today now.
You did two flights. Two three
Speaker 0: hour flights. Yes.
Speaker 2: It's public knowledge. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's well, it's not really though. That's the problem. So you have not properly notified our board of supervisors about this. Hi. Are you the other pilot?
Yes. Hi. Hi. What's your name? Khaled.
Khaled? Yes. Okay. Hi. Hi.
Speaker 2: Hi. It's not our we have people at home base that you can talk to about that stuff.
Speaker 1: But they've not called back. So now we're getting to the point where we're getting our supervisors involved. So the supervisors of our county needs to be notified. They've not been notified. You've been doing this for thirty years.
I know it's a long time. You guys are like, it's cool. It's easy. We're talking about all of the metals and the flares that you're using. So aluminum is saying propel the silver iodide.
You're spraying right over us all the time. And our plant life is separating. They are now selling aluminum genetically modified seeds to grow food because our soil is so contaminated. Okay? And so, what you're spraying is not good for the environment.
And it's not good for the people because there's an early onset dementia, there's Alzheimer's, things are starting to happen to people's health. And I really do believe there's a linkage to what we're breathing in in the environment every day when you guys spray us in November through April. It's your yearly contract. We're I'm aware of that too. So I just wanted to meet pilots and say, you know, where's Jody?
I've called Jody, I've talked I think Leslie was the other one, Leslie Fisher. No. It's another Fisher. Yeah. Probably his wife.
Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No. That's that's that's their responsibility. That's not our responsibility.
Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah. And the but the money that you're receiving to do this is coming from is it taxpayers that are paying for this?
Speaker 2: I'm that's not my department.
Speaker 1: I want you to be aware. Are like, do you have family?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have family.
Speaker 1: I have family too. I have children. So we're outside and we hear your plane over us all the time. So that's what he sounds like over my area. The cloud seater.
He's out there now peppering us with heavy metals. I just got home and he's been out there for two hours, forty five minutes, maybe three hours. So right now, it's safe to say you are breathing in heavy metals. Nine zero four d k. That's who that is.
Weather Modification International. And I've been tracking this for a long time, and we have tried to get the supervisors involved, and they're clueless. They were not informed. According to the California codes and law, they should have notified our supervisors because you're doing this to benefit TID. Okay?
Mhmm. But it's not. It's it's happening over Well, it might be. But it's happening over our area. Okay?
Sonora, Groveland, Coulterville. You're doing your little eight figure eight loops. My 20 brain samples will show you that on the days that you're spraying or releasing your flares, we have copious amounts of aluminum, magnesium. There's been some varium strontium, but titanium is weird. Is titanium also in your flares?
K. That's a that's unique for me. So I want you to know that there are health impacts and impacts to the soil and the plant life and all of those things. And when you do this, there my whole community is watching. We don't know what to do.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: I understand your opinion.
Speaker 1: It's not an opinion, though. I will show you my samples.
Speaker 2: I love it. I don't wanna see your samples.
Speaker 1: Why is that? You can
Speaker 2: take those to wipe
Speaker 1: your flying the plane. But then how do I get in touch with Joey so he calls me back? I've left messages. We've tried reaching him multiple times. How do I get in touch with him?
Speaker 2: You're gonna call him again or Do
Speaker 1: you have a card I can can use?
Speaker 2: Use stuff. I don't have this card. No use.
Speaker 1: That's why I want you to know I drove on this way because I saw you flying for the second time tonight. So you flew twice tonight. I've listened to you now twice over my own house. Mhmm. And it impacts all of us.
And early onset dementia and Alzheimer's for people in their thirties and forties
Speaker 2: Probably from all the food that people eat too.
Speaker 1: That's true. But now I eat very clean and organic. So now if we're breathing in aluminum, you know, because aluminum and zinc again propel the silver iodide. It's not just silver iodide. It's the propellants within the flares.
And then there's other chemicals within the flares that cause problems too. I want you just to think about that. Every time you go out there, you are contributing to the pollution of the environment. I know the goal is to drive
Speaker 2: Did you drive here today? Yes, we did. You're contributing to the pollution and the environment
Speaker 1: as well? No. But I want you to know that No.
Speaker 2: There's not. I I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. You can take your concerns.
Speaker 1: Are you the chief pirate?
Speaker 2: My team. I know I'm not the chief pirate.
Speaker 1: What is your name again?
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It does matter. No. It It doesn't. I'd like to know. No.
No. It doesn't. Because you're
Speaker 2: gonna try you're gonna go try to smear that all over the place. No.
Speaker 1: But I wanna know. Like, are you
Speaker 2: chief pilot? None of your business.
Speaker 1: It is my business because you're over my head dumping shit on over our families
Speaker 0: and our houses. Anything illegal. So
Speaker 1: It's not illegal yet. But now we haven't had air district hearing boards for years now and people have not been paying attention but people are starting to pay attention because they do care about their health and the health of our food and the health of our population. I want you to know that you, whether you know it or not or wanna admit it or not, are contributing to dumping heavy metals on our soils and in our air. We're breathing it. We're drinking it.
We're eating it. K. It matters to me.
Speaker 2: I understand that.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it doesn't matter. I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It does matter.
Speaker 2: I'm not the one for you to bring these concerns to. Go talk to
Speaker 0: the bosses at my company.
Speaker 1: What's their number? What is their contact information? It's all on the Internet. I have called them before. So how can I say I spoke to the chief pilot or the the captain?
Speaker 2: Well, you give me your information
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And I'll get a hold of them, and I will tell them that you're trying to contact them and then
Speaker 1: call you back. Let them know I've called before. My name is Catherine. K? I've left messages before.
I will also send another email to the company at large if they need to respond.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And I've been having ongoing conversations with CARB, the California Air Resources Board. Unfortunately, the person I'm speaking with has retired, so it's a kind of a disaster. So I'm at the point now where you were out all day today, you came back again for a second round, and I'm saying, I've I've had enough. We've had flooding. We've had mess.
It's a disaster, and I don't like the metals that are in my rain samples. And I'll be happy to share them with you. I I'm sincere when I say it's concerning to see see the amount of metals that are in my rain samples.
Speaker 2: Okay? Alright.
Speaker 1: I come here just to say this to you. I it matters to me. I'm a mother. Okay? Yep.
I care. I understand that. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.
Did you hear what I had to say? Yep. I did. It's sincere. Every time you go out there, we are watching, and we are and it's heartbreaking, and it's distressing, and I don't know how to get a hold of Jody Fisher.
So I want you both to say, Jody, you got to address this. And you have to talk
Speaker 2: to the real tit as well. Wanna leave your information to the
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to. Do you have a piece of paper I can use? Alright. K. Thank very much.
Speaker 2: Yep. Alright.
Speaker 1: Again, I appreciate it. I hope you hear me.
Speaker 2: Yep. I understand your opinion.
Speaker 1: It's like 5,000 micrograms of aluminum. Like, the difference between when after you spray and when it just rains after, like, it's I I tested when it's raining the first fall. An hour later, an hour later, I put my money into this. I have a child that has neurological issues. I care about everything that we've been on for a while.
Speaker 2: I understand. I understand that. Okay. You're also You're also asking for any of the some of
Speaker 1: it too. Okay. Tell me how.
Speaker 2: Well, for I
Speaker 1: would love to talk with you about this. Like, really talk to you about this.
Speaker 2: For one thing, we're not making it rain.
Speaker 1: Well, you're adding to natural weather patterns that are coming in. You're and going to enhance it. Right? But you're still the flares are still how many, like, BP's We're
Speaker 2: we're not making it rain. Period.
Speaker 1: Okay. So what are you doing then?
Speaker 2: And you make it snow
Speaker 1: Okay. Over top of the mountain. You've done this over us, though. So Groveland, Coulterville, Sonora. Right?
And then the air is moving a certain direction. I get it, but it's like landing on us. And then it's gonna snow and then the snowpack benefits Turlock and Modesto Irrigation District, but you're spraying us. Right? I also I went out I went and met a pilot and was spraying adulticides to kill mosquitoes.
Okay? So I I mean, we're being sprayed with or, you know, adulticides and and nerve agents that they use in World War one. And I'm saying, hello. You know, we're being sprayed with nerve agents. And what the hell is going on under the guise of public health?
It's bullshit. I'm sick of it. So I I come out here tonight, but I'd rather be sleeping. And because I wanted to just find out. Do the pilots know?
You know? We've been doing this for a while. Yep. Long time. It's been thirty years I found out like this whole thing.
I just Yeah. It really stinks. I know. Going on
Speaker 2: you for a long time.
Speaker 1: Why do we let the natural pineapple express just do its job?
Speaker 2: There's a lot of research that goes into it for sure.
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: From both sides, right? Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: what do you think? I mean, like, why don't we just let nature do what it's gonna do? And if people are gonna it up because of their natural their emissions from their use or whatever they're doing, why don't we just let that happen and let it be what it is? I mean Yeah. Well I don't I don't wanna be I don't wanna breathe in my I can't go outside for a while and I know you're spraying.
I'm like, I wanna breathe that crap in. You know? Yeah. It's coming down. It comes down faster than other stuff.
So, I came to the country to grow my own food and raise chickens and to get away from all the in the city And now I can save it. You know? I hear you. It's like I hear the plan. I know it's you.
You know? And it was 522JP. It was, 304EA, I think. It was, like, all these different aircraft coming from North Dakota. I've been watching this forever, and I don't know how to reach anyone.
No one's listening. No one really seems to care. I really care. So I had to just come and say that to the people that are actually out there doing it. So So when you're up there, just know that someone's down there looking up going, you know, what's going on?
Yeah. I know.
Speaker 2: I I don't ever think that there's not people watching this. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
There is all that information there.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Bye. Have a
Speaker 2: good night. Alright. You too.
Speaker 0: Alright. Let me show you her substack, and I'll give you the link in the description. I won't read the entire thing because it's quite long, so you can click on the link and read it for yourself and go subscribe to her Substack. So she's been tracking cloud seeding flights, taking rain samples over 20. Here is all her evidence.
And she submitted several public record act requests engaging with Air Pollution Control District and CARB, which is California Air and Resources Board. She will share her previous effort below. Nothing has been done to address her concerns about the heavy metals in her rain after days of seeding. We're breathing, drinking, and eating these heavy metals, she says. Silver iodide is not the only metal that is released during cloud seeding operations.
That's the most important part of exposing this because that is what our governments are saying, and they're lying their asses off. Did you hear at the end that he is basically admitting all of it? He did not deny all the chemicals that are in there. They know the chemicals are dumping. The flares require aluminum and zinc for combustion and more.
Here is all the things that are listed: ammonium, perchlorate, zinc powder, aluminum powder, reactive metals, silver iodide, copper iodide, and ammonium iodide. And she's saying that these are not listed on the HSIS, but it's what she's finding and he didn't deny it Aluminum oxide, aluminum chloride, zinc oxide, zinc chloride, nitrogen, and water There's the analytical report she's got here. This woman's a hero. And she just talks about how she keeps hearing the buzzing of these guys. She checked the flight radar.
Very smart woman. She heard it again around 10PM, and then she just shows the video. Oh, actually, her friend, who was her wingman from that evening, she was actually videoing behind the locked doors. She says thank you, dear friend. So here is the proof that
Speaker 1: she's having this conversation with this gentleman. That's not
Speaker 0: a fake audio. I would never ever do a show if I thought it was a fake audio. It was very evident to me it was real because of her substack and everything she's been doing. There you go. You can see them having the conversation.
You can see this guy dressed sort of in a proper uniform for these guys. There's two of them, it turns out. She's hoping that the consciousness of these pilots makes them do the right thing. Doubtful. Doubtful.
And there's a Jodie Fisher was promoted to director of flight operations for weather modification international. There he is. They know exactly what's in there and they've been denying it and they can't deny it anymore because she's got all the chemicals there. And like I said, he did not deny all of the chemicals she found. She's got information here about cloud seeding and train derailment.
And can modifying the weather cause damage to your property? Let's take a look at her investigation into one situation that happened this year in her neck of the woods. I will let you guys read that full story. She's got symptoms of metal fume fever. Read her full story.
She's got a previous effort to expose the decades old cloud sitting operations over Tulum County in The States. This woman is worth a follow. Please get this out there. Please share it to all the podcasters that you know. Everyone should be covering this.
They've got it right here. Look at this invoice, weather modification international. This is in Fargo, NDUSA, Turlock Irrigation District. Purchase agreement, aircraft seating operations, 47,000. Fuel, flight time, seating operation, and material costs, Mobilization, 81,707.
That's an invoice. I mean, you guys know this is real, but this woman's showing the proof. That's what we need for all of the dumb dumbs out there that actually believe this is a conspiracy theory. Please share this audio show. So important.
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I just heard from Katie, the woman from the ostrich interview. The Liberal Canadian government sent them a threatening email warning against sending the ostrich's blood or samples to an independent lab, citing quarantine laws. I have her permission to share this.
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Update: I was just contacted by Katie the woman in this interview about the ostriches. The Liberal Canadian fed just sent them a threatening email that they better not send the ostrich's blood or sample to an independent lab or they are breaking the law. Quarantine law. (Yes I have her permission to let the public know.)
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A BC, Canada Ostrich Farm Owner's CRY FOR HELP From The Public. The Culling Agenda Marches On. Healthy Immune Ostriches With Antibodies Who Aren't Sick To Be Slaughtered By The Liberal Government. Ostriches Don't Go Anywhere & Not Used As Food Supply... https://t.co/dio9iwIhDa
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I witnessed a mass stabbing in Vancouver on a busy shopping street near the public library, with multiple random victims. I'm curious if the attacker was part of the "catch and release" program by the David Eby government. Now, we just have to wait for more information.
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Mass stabbing here in Vancouver BC on one of the busiest shopping streets beside the public library. Numerous random victims. I wonder if the man who stabbed everyone had been let out of jail in the "catch and release" program run by the David Eby government? I guess we wait to find out:
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Robson at Hamilton street.
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I shared that Lauren Southern testified about a troubling encounter with CSIS, where they allegedly threatened her and her child after she declined to become an informant linked to a scandal involving Tenet Media, which she knew nothing about. In her full testimony, I noted her strong critique of Canadian mainstream media and the federal government for their corruption, highlighting her resilience in addressing these issues.
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BREAKING: Well known Canadian podcaster Lauren Southern testified today that CSIS came to her home and threatened her and her child when she said NO to becoming an Informant/Asset due to a scandal in the US with Tenet Media. A scandal that Ms.Southern had no knowledge of nor anything to do with. Entire testimony in the comments section...
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CSIS came to my home while I was cooking for my child and approached me in an uncomfortable manner. Since then, I have faced harassment and stalking from them. Despite telling them I didn’t want to talk, they repeatedly called and even found my gym. They implied that if I didn’t become an informant, my safety and ability to care for my child could be at risk. I’m not impressed with law enforcement in this country. I have not been asked to reimburse any money, but CSIS has applied significant psychological pressure on me to cooperate. I declined their offer, as I refuse to be an asset for any government, and I want to know how much this has cost Canadians.
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Speaker 0: Yes. As I mentioned, CSIS came to my house while I was making dinner for my child and tried to, speak with me, but did so in a way that I was not comfortable with, and I've also quite frankly experienced quite a bit of harassment and stalking from them. When I told them I did not wanna speak, they called me dozens and dozens of times. They found my gym. They told me that if I if I did not essentially become an informant for them, that I love being a mother.
I love my child, and I would love to see him grow up and be there to provide for him, and it would be a shame if something happened to me. So I'm not too impressed with the state of law enforcement in this country right now, to be honest. So I have not been asked to reimburse any of that money, but I have been visited by CSIS who quite frankly have been, putting immense psychological pressure on me to become an informant on this subject and other subjects. Ultimately, I declined because I'm not looking to become an asset for foreign governments nor this government, and I did not like the way in which they threatened and stalked me. And I would like to know how much Canadians paid for that, by the way.
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Full testimony: It is unfortunate what happened TO Lauren Southern by Tenet Media and/but she did a great job of pummelling the Canadian MSM & Canadian Fed for their own corruption: https://t.co/a4z8ywQYNQ
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The committee resumes its study on Russian interference in Canada, welcoming witness Lauren Southern. Southern, a filmmaker and YouTuber, discusses her work with Tenet Media, which is under investigation for alleged ties to Russian funding. She asserts she had no knowledge of these allegations during her involvement and maintained full creative control over her content. Southern challenges claims about Tenet's influence, stating it had only 300,000 subscribers on YouTube, not the 16 million previously mentioned. She argues that many Canadians hold views opposing the government based on personal beliefs, not foreign disinformation. Southern expresses concern over the portrayal of her work as part of a foreign influence campaign and emphasizes her commitment to free speech and honest journalism. She also recounts her uncomfortable interactions with CSIS regarding her role in the investigation.
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Speaker 0: So pursuant to standing order 1082 and the motion adopted on September 19, 2024, the committee resumes its study of Russian interference and disinformation campaigns in Canada. I'd like to now welcome our witness today, miss Lauren Southern. Miss Southern, for your benefit, I'd I'd like to specify that the testimony, of yourself or of any witness is protected by parliamentary privilege. The House of Common Procedure Practice states the following. Witnesses appearing before the committees enjoy the same freedom of speech and protection from arrest and molestation as do members of parliament.
Before we proceed, I do have to inform the committee that the summons could not be served to Liam Donovan. So the committee can decide if they want to take any action there. And we're gonna move on to questions. Oh, sorry. Oh, we're gonna move on to opening statements first.
Miss Southern, your opening statement, please.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Honorable chair, esteemed members of this committee, I would like to thank you for so enthusiastically inviting me to speak today. My name is Lauren Southern. I am a filmmaker, a YouTuber, and a proud Canadian. In late 2023, I was contracted to make weekly videos by a start up company called Tenet Media.
Then recently, the US Department of Justice released an indictment which alleges the founders of Tenet created the company in conjunction with 2 Russian citizens with funding ultimately originating from the Russian government. Per the indictment, the founders of Tenet Media deceived the personalities they contracted regarding their alleged source of funding. I'll make a few points clear at the outset. At no point in my involvement with Tenet did I ever have knowledge of the allegations in the indictment. And 2, the only person who ever had any creative control over my videos was me.
No one from Tenet or anywhere else ever dictated what topics I covered or what opinions I helped. I always seek to fight disinformation in all of its forms, and therefore I have a duty to inform this committee that disinformation has been spreading within these very walls. Some in the media and even witnesses to this committee have attempted to paint a picture of Tennant as a hugely influential player in the political media landscape. This, frankly, is just not true. A previous witness to this committee who went unchallenged stated that Tennant Media controlled a network of over 16,000,000 subscribers.
This is not true. On their largest platform, YouTube, Tenet had barely over 300,000 subscribers. I believe the 16,000,000 figure referred to the total number of subscribers among all of the personalities who had videos contracted or licensed by Tenet. Subscriber base is that, given all of the facts, Tenet had absolutely no control over. To claim that Tenet controlled those subscribers would be like claiming that a TV network had influence over the United States presidency because they air reruns of The Apprentice.
The same witness claimed Tenet garnered over 1,000,000,000 video views and 20,000,000,000 impressions. I have absolutely no idea where those numbers came from. Very readily available public data shows that on its largest platform, YouTube, Tenet received only 16,000,000 total views. Based on the witness' spacious numbers, he asserted that Russia received extraordinary value for their money. Anyone with even a cursory understanding of new media would know, however, that $10,000,000 for 16,000,000 views on YouTube hardly qualifies as extraordinary value.
In fact, it qualifies as a total failure. So there is in fact a silver lining here. If the allegations are true, it appears Russia did attempt to influence Western media, but they failed pretty miserably. Now I know the chief concern of this committee is how this debacle may have influenced Canadians. Well, I was the only Canadian commentator and the only host that consistently discussed Canadian issues.
In fact, if the company had any creative control over me, which they didn't, they probably would have asked me to stop making Canadian videos since they didn't perform very well. So if you were worried about this alleged Russian money unduly influencing Canadian issues, good news, didn't happen. And I'll be honest, it has been surreal for me to watch our government experts and media assert that scripts I would jot down in my notes app in a line at grocery store were secretly part of a giant foreign influence campaign. Arguably, the largest actual impact on Canadians here has been the amount of tax dollars they've had to spend investigating this nonissue. Some in the media and this government seem to have concluded that the only reason a regular Canadian could possibly hold certain views that do not align with the current Liberal administration is because of pernicious widespread Russian disinformation.
I would like to propose an alternative hypothesis, and I know it may sound insane. I know this breaches the borders of conceivable thought, but maybe, just maybe, some Canadians consulted their own moral compass and decided they don't want this country funding foreign wars. Maybe they looked around them at the hospital lineups or housing prices and thought immigration might be a little high. Maybe they lost their business during lockdown and think, I worry about my freedoms in this country. Some in this government are hell bent on drastically exaggerating the extent of foreign influence because they can't seem to stomach the idea that they might be wrong about something and that a growing majority of Canadians legitimately and organically oppose what they are doing.
They simply can't conceive that they are becoming unpopular naturally, so there must be foul play at work. Let me make this abundantly clear once more. No one but myself and my true experiences as a Canadian have informed my opinions. And to any members of this government who may be listening, I would suggest you familiarize yourself with these opinions because they are rapidly becoming the views of the majority of this nation. Thank you.
Speaker 0: Great. Thank you, miss Southern. So we start with the speaking, with the questions. Mister Lloyd for 6 minutes.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You answered my question, mister Sher. Thank you, miss Southern for coming to this committee today. This has been a very interesting study, and I found your your statement today interesting, and it answered a number of my my questions that I was gonna have for you, but I still have some additional questions. The indictment itself, which you've read the indictment, I assume, alleges that RT employees and Tenet Media used a fake persona named, Edward Gregorian to deceive the commentators.
Were you ever approached to make content by someone posing as Edward Gregorian?
Speaker 1: No. The call I had, well over a year ago now that signed me up for the company, I was told vaguely about a tech investor. I can't remember the exact name I was given, but I never spoke to someone named Edward Gregorian.
Speaker 2: When were when were you first approached to do work for TENOMEDIA?
Speaker 1: I wish I could remember the exact date, but it would have been probably 4 months before the company launched.
Speaker 2: K. And the indictment alleges that this Kalashnikov, character edited your videos in the past. Like, is this true one and well, continue. In the past, have you allowed others to edit your videos? Is this a common practice?
Speaker 1: The editing process is just the cutting and adding of audio. In fact, I any sort of text that would be on screen or any sort of words said by me were entirely under my control. They had these individuals under the fake name editing the initial videos, and then I got an American editor assigned to me, later on, and I also edited some videos in house. But once again, the editing process has no control over the actual content of the videos.
Speaker 2: So you would sign off on the final content of the videos?
Speaker 1: I would go in, and I would say cut at 2 minutes 30. It's going too long. Add a soundtrack at 3 minutes. I had full control.
Speaker 2: So you can't say for sure whether or not this Kalashnikov person was involved in the editing at any
Speaker 1: time. I mean, I I don't know. They they had I believe it was someone under a fake name.
Speaker 2: K. Thank you for that. Now the US indictment alleges that commentators were paid upwards of a $100,000 to produce this, content. You know, how much were how much was this what you found in your experience was what content creators were being paid by Tenet?
Speaker 1: One of the this was one of the large surprises for myself when the indictment dropped. I was on 275,000 for all operations. That was not my personal salary. I was contracted to make 3 videos a week, news reports, and too many documentaries, and I had multiple staff, including researcher and assistant. So this budget paid for my studio, flights, videographers, staff, myself.
I only made around a 100,000 Canadian for my personal salary. So, if you wanna do a separate panel on the wage gap and alleged foreign influence campaigns, we can certainly do that.
Speaker 0: What
Speaker 2: sort of due diligence did you perform before you began working with TENOM Media? Like, did you ever question where this kind of money was coming from? Did you not find it at all suspicious?
Speaker 1: Once again, given the budget I was given and the offer, I was given from 2 people who have worked in media and were employed by The Blaze, you know, Lauren Chen. It was not suspicious that this would be a start up company whatsoever. Once again, I was running a severely underfunded operation. In fact, at multiple points, I found it difficult to continue to make multiple documentaries each month. And to afford that, I needed more staff on board, and so I would apply for more funds and and was told that the company simply didn't have them available given it was a small start up.
Speaker 2: And, do you feel that you were taken advantage of in this situation? Do you feel you're deceived by Lauren Chan and Liam Donovan?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I wasn't given the information in the indictment. So if it's all true,
Speaker 3: then yes.
Speaker 2: That seems clear. With that, chair, do I have any more, how much time do I have left?
Speaker 0: You still have 2 minutes left, actually.
Speaker 2: Well, you actually answered a lot of my questions on this already, miss Southern. So, I'll have to regroup and, pass it on to the next speaker. Thank you, mister chair.
Speaker 0: Great. Thank you, mister Lloyd. So the next speaker is mister Erskine Smith for 6 minutes.
Speaker 3: Thanks very much, chair. I just wanna get back to, the amount that you were compensated. Can you you said you made a $100,000 personal that you were able to take back with take take home with you, but, what was the total amount before you paid out different contracts?
Speaker 1: 5000 US.
Speaker 3: Sorry. I said, I missed that. It was 270,000 US?
Speaker 1: 275,000 US.
Speaker 3: Okay. And and how many videos did you create for Cana Media?
Speaker 1: It must have been upward of 80. I don't know. I couldn't tell you the exact number, but, quite a few. I had 3 Okay. The sorry.
Let me give you more specifics. I was contracted to do 3 videos a week and too many documentaries a month.
Speaker 3: And and you said they only have 300,000 subscribers. Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah. But what's more interesting to me is that it was only, I believe, a few months before the indictment dropped that they only had around a 100000 subscribers. And in fact, I had a documentary with the company that was at around 10,000 views for a long time, and mere days before the indictment dropped, it was at 1,000,000. So I think the numbers, and I know that there were ad campaigns done to promote the videos, but I think the numbers have been massively inflated by those who have an interest in exaggerating foreign interference.
Speaker 3: But what was your idea of the business model here? Because, I mean, they're paying you $275,000 US, and I I know you're you're taking home a 100,000 after that. But, there are others with, even more followers and presumably gonna get paid more as a result, in their sort of stable of of influencers. How how are they making money off this in EU?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I was the top contributor, so I was getting some of the top view counts at the site. I was hustling very hard to make sure my videos did well, trying to grow the company. I did not know the salaries of my peers, so I was under the assumption that they were getting paid the same, if not less, because I was doing a large amount of videos. So it made sense, certainly, that a start up from someone at a tech company could give the amount of money necessary. And, certainly, I was being asked start doing advertisements at Tenet, and I assumed, you know, the start up money must be drying up, and they need to integrate ads into this.
It certainly made sense, from all the information I was provided.
Speaker 3: And who is your main point of contact? Was it was it Lauren Chen was your main point of contact to Tenet?
Speaker 1: No. I was typically Liam, but, really, I was kind of just left alone as long as I was fulfilling my contract. I wasn't speaking to them that often.
Speaker 3: No. When someone comes to you and they say, we want you to join this and they make a pitch, you're not just gonna join anything. So it was Liam that made the pitch and sold you on it?
Speaker 1: Lauren made Lauren made the pitch, and then Liam sent the contracts over.
Speaker 3: Okay. So Lauren made the pitch. What what was your relationship like with Lauren before she made the pitch to you?
Speaker 1: Cordial. They they're very friendly people. We had met in person before. We had, I mean, 10 years of knowing her in the same industry as me. She's always kind of just made pretty decent videos on YouTube and for The Blaze and various other companies.
I,
Speaker 3: I mean, she's she's in your world. You know her for 10 years. I mean, you you've read the indictment, I assume.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, here, she and Liam hung up, talking about the Russians and that they are aware of where this money is coming from. That must have sent chills down your spine that you've been that you've been working for Russian money.
Speaker 1: We still if I know anything about my time spent in media and, people speculating both about the work I've done and personal life and all these things, it's that unless I was there, I don't know anything. I don't know what happened, and I'm not going to make comments about Liam or Lauren because I do not know the inside out of what went on there other than the comments in the indictment.
Speaker 3: So you weren't right. So you you read the indictment, and you and you sort of shrugged then. You said, well, I wasn't there. I don't know that this is true. So so it's of no concern.
Speaker 1: I certainly didn't shrug. I'm not looking to work for any, I'm not looking to be an asset of any government, foreign or domestic for that matter. So, no, I was not happy with the idea that I would be working for I was certainly happy with the integrity of my work, all of which was done of my own volition, all my own opinions. And, if there's any concerns by this committee about anything I may have published that was not factual, I'd be happy to correct that. But
Speaker 3: Well, one thing well, I don't know. I mean, one thing you said in your opening, you're you're talking about sort of, people getting frustrated with this federal government, but you said one of your major examples was people who have lost business during the lockdown. I mean, sure, people were obviously very frustrated they lost business during the lockdown, but you must know, having been very vocal on this, that it was provincial governments that implemented lockdowns. Right? You you are aware of that.
Speaker 1: Sure. But there were plenty of acts by the federal government to shut out shut down legitimate protests, shut down people's bank accounts.
Speaker 0: No. No. No. No. No.
No. No.
Speaker 3: No. Business sorry. You said lost my business during the lockdown. I mean, that that's a that's you you you would know, I assume. That would be a provincial act.
Speaker 1: I I think you're getting into semantics here. There are plenty of reasons to be concerned about freedom in Canada.
Speaker 3: Provincial and federal governments are are certainly not some semantic differences. You also said, though, in your opening, your views are rapidly becoming the views of the majority of this nation. Do you think the great replacement theory is gonna become the the views of the majority of this nation anytime soon?
Speaker 1: Depends what you mean by the great replacement theory.
Speaker 0: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: Well, what do you mean by the great well, that that, there's a an active attempt to replace a white population with a non white population.
Speaker 4: What
Speaker 3: do you mean by that?
Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of people that have concerns about the impact of mass immigration removing the culture in certain areas. I think you could ask people in Brampton or individuals in Surrey what they think about the language being spoke around them, whether it's a Canadian language whatsoever, whether they feel that their culture is being preserved. I don't think it's an insane concept. And in fact, I think many liberals would agree that many cultures and peoples have been replaced before by mass immigration, our indigenous population, not least of all.
Speaker 3: You might think it's insane, though, to head over to Russia, speak with a neofascist Alexander Dugan, and then praise the guy to say
Speaker 0: Sorry, mister Erskine Smith.
Speaker 3: You might think that's a level of insanity.
Speaker 0: Mister Erskine Smith, sorry. No. The the time is up. We're actually over a little bit.
Speaker 5: No good, sir.
Speaker 0: So, hopefully, another witness another, member, sorry, can give you time to answer the question, but, we're actually already over the time.
Speaker 6: Madam chair. I think it's fair to allow the witness to answer the question.
Speaker 0: So I'm gonna move on to, madam Michaud. And then mister John's order also. If you'd like, you can give, her time to answer that question from your side. Point of order. Yeah.
Mister Shipley, I don't know if
Speaker 7: sitting in this committee for many months, many years now. And prior to you taking over that chair, that was always the policy. If there was a question asked that the witness didn't have a chance to answer. No. There was always the policy.
Speaker 0: So I I actually tried to, stop mister from asking the question. I I spoke while he was speaking.
Speaker 1: Of some insane things, and I think
Speaker 0: that's If members feel differently, then then they can give, the witness time to answer from from their own time. Madam madam.
Speaker 8: Thank you, chair. Thanks, miss Southern. I'm going to be speaking French, so I hope that, yeah, you can hear me, that you can hear the interpretation. Thank you for, coming here to testify. You mentioned earlier that, you had a 100% control over your videos.
I really haven't had the opportunity to look at your videos, but could you give us an idea of the subjects that you dealt with on the videos and your understanding of why you were approached by Tenant Media in the first place, why they would have chosen you to make, 3, videos, per week and several documentaries per month. Just give us an idea, please.
Speaker 1: Yes. Thank you. Just I just wanted to take 2 seconds to respond to the allegations that I'm an insane person quickly for interviewing Alexander Dugan. Given my inspiration for the interview was from TVO's The Agenda, Steve Piken, who interviewed Dugan, I don't think we would be calling him insane in this house. I think there is a deliberate effort to slander me for political purposes.
Now to answer your question as to why you think think I would be picked to make these videos, I've made a lot of content over the past 10 years, multiple, documentaries that have received millions of views and really encouraged a lot of people to consider ideas they haven't thought of before, like the plight of farmers in South Africa who are being murdered or my film borderless, which covered mass immigration to Europe from the perspective of immigrants who quite frankly were being screwed over and sold a lie by human traffickers. I think that I have a long history of creating very honest journalism that addresses issues that a lot of people are too afraid to broach, and that's why I believe I was approached by Tenet to work for them.
Speaker 8: Thank you, did you make videos about, the Canadian policies, about politics here in this country, about, the, stance in Ukraine, and Russia's involvement?
Speaker 1: I don't believe I recall making a single video about the Russia, Ukraine situation, but I certainly made videos about Canada, and they were all based on my own experience living here as a Canadian. I made a video about housing prices in Vancouver, for example, something I have seen just go to absurd levels. I have families that live around me in my community who have been forced to live in trailer parks because the housing prices have gone so high. They cannot afford rent. I look at the inflation with groceries, families struggling to afford food because the taxes are so high, because of bad policy put in by this liberal government, and I make videos on these subjects.
I make videos about the concerns of mass immigration without integration. You know, just a few weeks ago, I had a friend of mine almost lose her daughter's life because of immigrant that refused to get a proper driver's license smashed into her car just missing her daughter and then tried to intimidate her into not contacting ICBC. When we have these issues of mass immigration without integration, when we have these issues of so many foreign buyers coming into this country and inflating prices, When we have these issues of not putting the Canadian populace first, people wanna hear these opinions. And I'm sorry to tell you once again to the people here who might think that this is all foreign propaganda. It's not no one told me to have these opinions.
I grew up in Surrey. I grew up in BC. I live in this country. I've lived I live paycheck to paycheck right now. You know?
I struggle under this government as many other Canadians do, and all of the opinions I put out here are my honest opinion.
Speaker 8: Thank you. Could you explain, the events that led to the criminal, inquiry on, the media and the allegations that have been made, about the videos. Were you surprised, when this all arose? Were you suspicious before, this, how it started?
Speaker 1: And I had no reason to be suspicious. Of course, I was surprised when the indictment dropped. I did not have knowledge of what was in the indictment. I once again, I I can't comment to how this all happened because I was simply a contracted video creator. I just made videos for them.
Speaker 8: Thank you. I certainly understand your situation, but, you seem to be taking very lightly this whole issue of foreign interference that does exist. And Russian interference does does exist in Canada at this time. Does that not concern you as much as it concerns me, in terms of our democratic institutions? The fact that this, does exist and can harm our institutions.
Speaker 1: Once again, as I opened in my speech, there were individuals that were witnesses to this committee who went unchallenged, who claimed that Tenet Media made the number 1 one of the number 1 podcasts in the world, the Rubin Report. The Rubin Report was created 10 years before Tenet even existed and had no association with Tenet Media. Dave Rubin, god bless him, his actual show at Tenet Media struggled to even reach 100 of views, and yet that level of misinformation was coming from within these very walls. So forgive me if I seem like I am downplaying what is going on, but there has been a great exaggeration to the point of lying within this committee about the level of foreign interference happening. And the biggest concern I have is the regular Canadians that I interviewed, that inspired my videos, that inspired my content, that are being slandered as Russian disinformation rather than, you know, the people here who might be disturbed by me correcting the record.
Speaker 9: Next slide.
Speaker 0: Thank you, madam Michaud. Mister Johns for 6 minutes.
Speaker 6: Miss Southern, before collaborating with other influencers, what steps do you take to ensure the media in which you are appearing is acting lawfully?
Speaker 1: What steps do I take to ensure the media I'm appearing in is acting lawfully? Yeah. I don't think that you know, as much as I would love to be able to afford a private investigator to go and confirm every contract I sign, 10 years of working with someone in the same industry and 10 years of working with someone in the same industry and being given a very standard boilerplate contract that I would get from any other company. I've never had this happen before, and I think in retrospect, it's easy to say that I should have done more investigation, but what investigation would you have done in my shoes?
Speaker 6: I I think I think, right, it I think it's important to do due diligence, and you have significant following on social media platforms where misinformation can spread rapidly. How do you ensure that the content you share is not used by foreign entities to amplify narratives that undermine Canadian democracy or national security?
Speaker 1: Are you accusing me of spreading narratives that have undermined the long history? Just asking the
Speaker 6: question, just like, you know, in terms of how do you ensure that the content you share is not used by foreign entities to amplify narratives that undermine Canadian democracy or national security? What what what measures do you take?
Speaker 1: I ensure that every contract I sign and have ever signed in media gives me full creative control of every single thing I say and publish. That's how I ensure it.
Speaker 6: Well, there there's concerns that individuals or groups may be unintentionally aiding foreign governments and spreading divisive narratives. How do you respond to allegations that your online content has been used to further Russian propaganda or influence Canadian public opinion?
Speaker 1: As far as I'm aware, just this month, prime minister Justin Trudeau announced a pause to immigration or a decrease in immigration for the next 3 years, citing unsustainable growth. This is one of the critiques that has been my main critique on Tenet Media and off Tenet Media. And having it portrayed as Russian disinformation by this committee or even aiding and abetting Russians has been very interesting. I may understand I may have been right too early on this issue, and as so I must be socially punished by this regime. But although much too late, I happen to believe that Justin Trudeau is making the correct decision there, and I would hope that this committee wouldn't advocate Canadians stop drinking water or wearing seatbelts because someone with the last name Ivanov or Petrov suggested it was a good idea.
Speaker 6: Yep. That's not what we're asking, but what is your stance on foreign interference in Canadian elections and political discourse? Do you believe there is a clear and present danger from foreign actors, such as Russia? And if so, what responsibility do individuals like yourself bear in preventing the spread
Speaker 10: of foreign influence?
Speaker 6: Do you do you take
Speaker 1: any responsibility? Commentator for a channel who had full control over the videos I made, and I ensured they were truthful. If you want to point to anything I've said that has been disinformation or aiding in a vetting
Speaker 6: asking what you believe. Do you believe there is a clear and present danger from foreign actors such as Russia? And if so, what responsibility do you believe the individuals like yourself in in your platform prevent in, you know, aid in in preventing, the spread of foreign influence?
Speaker 1: I think that it is rich that I am sat here and being asked what I have to do to stop foreign influence and foreign interference as a Canadian citizen while we sit here with MPs like Jennifer O'Connell who said boo hoo to conservatives who wanted actual elected politicians working with foreign governments to be exposed.
Speaker 6: So taking the regular responsibility. So sorry. I take it you don't take responsibility.
Speaker 1: Want to.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. It's not your turn, miss O'Connell. I'm gonna continue. How do you reconcile your business model, which prioritizes user engagement and and raking in massive profits from clicks with the necessity to protect users from harmful disinformation that can lead to real world consequences like hate based violence?
Speaker 1: How is anyone in this committee supposed to stop disinformation abroad if they can't stop it within this committee? Why wasn't Ben Scott why wasn't he challenged when he cited false numbers about Tenet's views? Why wasn't he challenged when it was said that Tenet created the top podcast in the world, that they were getting billions of impressions? If we cannot stop disinformation within this committee, I'm sorry, but no one here is stopping disinformation coming from a bot broad or foreign in interference.
Speaker 6: What effects do you believe your content has
Speaker 3: on Canadians?
Speaker 1: I think I speak for the majority of Canadians. I think I speak for people who don't have a voice in this government. I think I speak for people who feel they have been censored and shut up for too long by the mainstream media, and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 6: So g g like and I'm glad we're talking about how you personally feel. Can you speak about how you feel about your online content, you know, since, it was aiding in objectives that were planned, plotted, and executed in the Kremlin?
Speaker 1: Would you say that Justin Trudeau's reduction of immigration was aiding and abetting the Kremlin? Should he be pulled here because he had the same ideas asking you. That I had?
Speaker 6: I'm asking you. Do do do you have any personal feelings that your online content was aiding in those objectives?
Speaker 1: I do not. I disagree with that. I think I have very normal opinions that were all coming from myself. No one told me to have my views. No one forced me to have my opinions.
My opinions are based on living and growing up in this country.
Speaker 6: Okay. Have you ever been in direct or indirect contact with Russian government officials, organizations, or agents?
Speaker 1: I've spoken to RT before in the past Okay. Before the war.
Speaker 6: So, you know, can you provide more information about the nature of these interactions, if any?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I I believe the only I've done contributions to RT before as many did prewar, including Larry King, including Michael Moore. I think the only interview I ever did that even had anything to do with Canada was a brief interview on the Trucker live report on events happening around me. And I would have been just as willing to share that report with the CBC if they had asked me.
Speaker 0: Mister Jones, that does conclude, the first round. Thank you. We move on to the 2nd round now. And, mister Shiple, you are first.
Speaker 7: Thank you, chair, and thank you to miss Southern for being here today. Some of these questions have probably already been asked, but we'll make it a little repetitive. But if you could just give us a little more context to these. My first question is, have you ever employed by a digital media company to create content before signing on with Tennant?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 7: Do you wanna elaborate on that?
Speaker 1: Rebel Media.
Speaker 7: And before signing on with Tennant, had your content ever been monetized on YouTube?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 7: What was your relationship with Lauren Chen and Liam Donovan? How did they pitch this platform to you? Where were you? What were you offered, and what due diligence did you do before signing on?
Speaker 1: They were colleagues of mine in the media sphere working for various different companies. We had brushed shoulders at political events before, maybe only a handful of times. Lauren and I were fairly friendly. She called me and told me that they were starting up a new company, that they had an investor, that was in the tech realm, and I wasn't that interested at first, to be honest. And then she called me a few more times and told me that it would be a totally free speech contract.
I could do whatever I wanted. They sent me the offer. And, at that time, I was looking to expand and hopefully be able to hire some staff to improve the quality of my videos and being able to do so while having total freedom and control over the content I produce is quite frankly something you get at almost no media companies, very few anyways. So that's why I haven't worked at very many the last 10 years other than Revel, which had a similar contract. But, yeah, I considered myself pretty lucky to have found a startup company that was looking to give their creators full creative control.
Speaker 7: You did travel to Russia in 2018 and published an extensive interview with Alexander Dugan, a man who is referred to as Putin's brain. During your trip to Russia, did you engage with any other political actors? Have you maintained a relationship with any any individuals that you met in Russia?
Speaker 1: Yes. During my trip to Russia, I did interview quite a few, other subjects. I decided against publishing those interviews as I felt that there might be some influence on the direction of them, and I only published the Dugan one because I totally arranged that one.
Speaker 7: Have you been back to Russia since February 24, 2022?
Speaker 1: I have not been back to Russia.
Speaker 7: You unlisted several videos from your YouTube channel on the topic of the war in Ukraine and your travels to Russia. When did you unlist these YouTube videos and why?
Speaker 1: I I actually enlisted significantly more videos than just those, things that had to do with just life and relationships and various different topics. I I have made a decision a few months ago that I want to take a break from social media altogether. I think the entire thing has become very unhealthy, and one of the ways that I engage with it now is if I go on social media, I remove content instead of add it. So you'll look at this if you find my Instagram. There have been lots of selfies of me removed.
If you look at my Twitter, there have been lots of tweets of mine removed. So I go back and I choose a video or a post to remove instead of adding to it since I think that, we've really lost the threat of sanity on the Internet these days.
Speaker 7: Well, I think there's definitely some truth to that. I do I wanna keep asking some questions, but I'm just gonna take a brief moment aside from that. And I do wanna put a verbal notification, of a motion, and that motion will be, given that it is reported this week that the families of Paul Bernardo's victims had been denied the right to deliver their impact statements in person at his upcoming parole hearing, that the parole board is now saying it is, quote, currently working to accommodate the in person presentation of statements by victims, end of quote, who wish to appear at the November 26th hearing that the committee invite the minister of public safety, the chairperson of the Parole Board of Canada, the federal ombudsperson for victims of crime to appear separately for 1 hour each to testify on how these decisions are made and the process of determining whether they are unable to ensure safety and security of all hearing attendees and that these appearances occur before December 17th. I'll speak very briefly to this because I do wanna get back to miss Southern. I just obviously, everybody's probably aware of what's what's happened this week with the French Mohave families being barred from attending, Paul Verano's parole hearing in person.
Frankly, I was shocked and disgusted to hear this this had taken place. The parole board stated they were unable to ensure safety and security for all hearing the attendees. Not sure why that would be different now when he was in maximum security, they were allowed to attend being moved into media and then I was saying that security was going to be an issue. So, we did hear from the lawyer from the families, Tim Danson. He stated, quote, it was nothing short of gut wrenching to experience the painful and heartbreaking reaction of Debbie Mahaffey and Donna French when they learned that the PBC was prohibiting them from representing their daughters and themselves and denying them the right to confront Paul Bernardo in person.
He went even further in his letter calling the PBC's decision, quote, bone chilling, and argued that it runs contrary to the Corrections and Conditions Release Act, which he said enshrines the right to in person's victim impact statements. Mister, Danson also stated it is incredible how the system is there to assist and benefit Canadians' most notorious status, sexual, psychopath, and murderer, but not as victims who suffer every day. I just as I said here, I just wanna put that on verbal notification, please.
Speaker 0: Thank you, mister Shipley. It's on notice, and your time is up. Next, we will move to miss Stamoff.
Speaker 5: Thank you, chair thank you, miss Southern, for being here today. I wanna go back to your trip that you took to Russia in 2018. Who paid for
Speaker 1: that trip? I paid for it.
Speaker 5: You mentioned that you did, several interviews there. Were you paid for those interviews?
Speaker 1: I was not paid to do any of those interviews.
Speaker 5: So you I'm I mean, it's come up who you interviewed while you were there, Alexander Dugan, who not only has been referred to as Vladimir Putin's brain. Actually, before I ask you this, how did you get an interview with him?
Speaker 1: I, watched an episode of the agenda with Steve Piken where he interviewed Alexander Dugan, and then at a either earlier or later date, he also interviewed a translator of Dugan's, who was a University of Toronto PhD student. And I contacted either him or one of one of his translators and got his email and said, mister Dugan, could I conduct an interview with you? And in a very brief response, he just said yes.
Speaker 5: So so I just wanna read. In 2014, Dugan said Russia should, quote, kill, kill, kill Ukrainians. He's previously been involved with Palmya, which has been described as the most anti significant anti semitic organization since perestroika. He's expressed his admiration for the SS, adopting the alter ego, named Ham Sievers, named after the war criminal, who was general secretary of the Nazi Research Institute that Heinrich Himmler established. I'm just curious.
I know you've mentioned Steve Paikin a number of times, and I had limited time to look here slightly different than than the interview that that you did. I'll just be honest. I'm why would you wanna platform someone like that?
Speaker 1: The exact same reasons reasons Steve Paikin did and TVO did because he is an interesting geopolitical figure, and I was more right than I bargained for initially at how interesting he would get. When I watched the TVO interview and when I watched the work of, Michael Millerman, one of his translators, they kind of figured these ideas of, do you do you
Speaker 5: agree with his views on on Ukraine?
Speaker 1: No. I don't think we should kill, kill, kill the Ukrainians. On the contrary, I think we should be trying to, not kill anybody. Not not a big fan of killing people, Ukrainian or otherwise.
Speaker 5: And do you do you prescribe to his anti Semitic views?
Speaker 1: No. No. Once again, you're interviewing me right now. Do you agree with all of my opinions?
Speaker 5: No. I actually find some of them quite offensive. I'm I'm just curious what
Speaker 1: a Canadian language is. Is that Ojibwe and Cree? Typically, in Canada, our national languages are English and French. I I kinda figured this was common knowledge in here, but
Speaker 5: Okay. Well, I guess, you know, it's funny. I was just in the Baltic countries and met with the NATO Center of Excellence on strategic communications. And a lot of what you put out aligns perfectly with the the type of Russian misinformation that I heard about, particularly around immigration. But, anyway, that's just a that's just just a comment.
You have been you you you keep referring to Steve Paikin and the fact that he did an interview with someone. You went to Russia. If I'm not mistaken, you were barred from going to the UK. Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Yes. I was barred from going to the UK. And why was that? That was because I tried to set up a pride parade in Luton, and the Islamic population there typically are not a big fan of that. And I was told that it was stirring up hatred.
Speaker 5: And so you went to Russia to stir up hatred against Jews?
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. What what are you referring to?
Speaker 5: Look who you look who you you you deliberately made a trip to Russia to interview someone who is is one of the most anti Semitic people around. Is like, is it just to be controversial? Is that do you find that funny?
Speaker 1: What part yeah. I do find it funny that you were accusing me of taking a trip to Russia to stir up hatred around Jews when I don't think Jews came up once during my interview with Alexander Dugan. I don't know where you're getting that from. And once again, Steve Piken conducted an interview with him. I guess you would have to make the same anti Semitic accusation against TVO.
Speaker 5: Miss Southern, his views are well known, and you you deliberately went there. So you're you're basically trying to create chaos. Funny thing is that's what they say Russia does with all the things that they do is try to create chaos in society. So I it sounds like your goal is to try and and, create chaos, and, I don't get the sense that you have a lot of respect for western liberal democracy as it is. So anyway, that's my time, chair.
Speaker 6: Great.
Speaker 0: Thank you, miss Samoff. Madam Michaud,
Speaker 8: 2 and a half minutes, madam Michaud. Thank you very much, chair. I just I'd like to come back to the monetary issue that was addressed earlier. You said that Tenet Media gave you a 275,000, dollar US dollar budget, and your take home was about a 100,000 Canadian. That's what you earned for yourself.
Yes? Thank you. Did anybody at any time ask you to reimburse that money They when tenant was closed, when there were allegations, did you meet any, by, the RCMP or CSIS or any type of security service that you met, further to that?
Speaker 1: So I have not been asked to reimburse any of that money, but I have been visited by CSIS who, quite frankly, have been, putting immense psychological pressure on me to become an informant on this subject and other subjects. Ultimately, I declined because I'm not looking to become an asset for foreign governments nor this government, and I did not like the way in which they threatened and stalked me. And I would like to know how much Canadians paid for that, by the way.
Speaker 8: Thank you. In the UN, reported last September in February 22 that Russia, had begun an illegal war on Ukraine. There were more than, 11,000 civilians killed and many other 1,000 that were injured. That's a lot of people. What would, you think about, being an agent for this type of country that would wage this type of war on another country.
Does not that put you ill at ease?
Speaker 1: I you will never catch me speaking ill of the Ukrainian people. They are good people, and it is horrific what is happening to them and the losses that are happening to their community. And I hope that the suffering they are going through ends, and I hope that the Ukrainian people will be free. I do not and have never wanted to be an agent of any state, an asset of any state, foreign or domestic, and I have always, at any inkling that that is happening, have run the other way.
Speaker 0: Missy? Mister Johns for 2 and a half minutes.
Speaker 6: I I really only have one burning question left, and that's, you know, do you take any steps whatsoever to verify that, people paying you are legitimate and don't have ulterior motives?
Speaker 1: This would not be a question being asked of any individual working in media if not for the retrospect of this situation. I've had contracts. I've worked with many individuals. They have all looked the same as Tenet, and they have never come up with this problem. This is a very unique circumstance.
And once again, I think the eyes of retrospect are playing heavy on your questioning.
Speaker 6: Well, I think given the situation and that you're under invest the Tennant's been under investigation, with the US government. I think it it does, qualify as a reasonable question.
Speaker 1: If you think that there was a action I should have or could have taken that the average person would normally do, please do let me know, mister Johns.
Speaker 6: Will you take any in the future, will you be doing any, significant efforts to to ensure that, that the people are paying you are legitimate and don't have ulterior motives? Is this something that you're going to incorporate into your future business model?
Speaker 1: I have always worked very hard to ensure that the things I am doing are legitimate, that I'm not being influenced by anyone. I've lost jobs over this. Now there is a lot of money, as I'm sure you know. Probably not the majority coming from Russia, probably more from China, other countries going into politics, going into media, going into influencing what people think. The way I protect myself from that, because it is a completely messed up and influenced media organization system going on right now, ecosystem, is I only sign contracts with people who give me full creative control.
Because right now in this environment, that is the only way to protect yourself. If you are ever working for an organization that has creative control over you, you're gonna find yourself in hot water. And quite frankly, that is the majority of media outlets within this country too.
Speaker 6: Okay. So right now, you're telling us right now that you're not going to take any any different steps to ensure that the people that are paying you are legitimate and don't have ulterior motives.
Speaker 1: The steps I'm taking is I'm not gonna work in media again because I am tired of this subterranean fed level nonsense going on, and I would like to just go on with my normal life as a Canadian not being harassed by CSIS or the government or you people.
Speaker 0: Thank you, mister Johns. Mister Motz for 5 minutes. Thank you.
Speaker 10: Thank you very much, chair, and thank you, miss Southern, for being here. My questions aren't intended to harass, but rather find out some information. Now you're described as a social media influencer, someone who is political activist and a commentator, but, what what are your objectives when you, what what do you aim to achieve when you connect with an audience?
Speaker 1: My aim has always been to speak for people that don't feel they have had a voice in the mainstream media or regular media and to convey facts. You know? I'm a human being. Everyone that does media is a human being. I don't want people to follow me like I'm some sort of god and take everything I say as, you know, their opinion, 100% influence.
I want to provide as much factual information as I can, data from my own research or from on the ground, and let people take that information and look at a variety of different sources and come to their own conclusions. That is my hope for the work that I have done.
Speaker 10: So you said this briefly in your opening, I I believe, and then in answer to some of my colleagues' questions. But, what motivated you or prompted you to start collaborating with Tenant Media? Was it the friendship only, or was it other something else?
Speaker 1: It was that it's usually, very good to be working with a media company when you are in the, you know, social media content creation environment. I've been independent for so long, and it's very hard to do. It's very hard to fundraise for a studio, for equipment, to do films, and I wanted to expand the type of films I was doing. And although, once again, it was underfunded, it was a larger budget for me to be able to do more interesting and, higher quality work than I was doing before.
Speaker 10: Fair enough. Now, you had indicated that, that you always put significant efforts into making original and thoughtful videos and that your contract gave you full editorial control. You've made that very clear today. Now, have you ever been compensated to endorse a specific idea?
Speaker 1: No. No. On anything? No. From anywhere?
No.
Speaker 10: Have you ever received information or from another organization, an individual, or a government for you to share that on your social media platforms?
Speaker 1: No. Other than, like, not paid for. I've certainly had lots of people send me, hey. Share this tweet. I just did a interview.
Share this. Like, that's a very normal thing to happen in media.
Speaker 7: I don't
Speaker 10: know how much time I have left, but two two thoughts, from your answers to other questions. You indicate that when you were in Russia, you had concerns about some other interviews you had done, and you chose not to broadcast or or or, release those those interviews. And you didn't explain why.
Speaker 1: There was, an individual that had told me they can set up interviews in Russia for me. And, initially, I was excited about this, because they were able to get access to quite prominent figures. But as things went on, they, were pushing me to do content and work, which once again, I don't if anyone I feel is pushing me to share ideas, I push back, including, quite frankly, they were trying to get me to go and do a film on the Donbas region before, in 2018. I found this strange. Obviously, I didn't know there was going to be an invasion that would happen at any point, but, being offered all access to that area, military access, seemed suspicious to me.
And I rejected doing the film, and I deleted all the other interviews that I conducted or refused to publish them. Rather, that was in connection with this individual.
Speaker 10: Thank you for that clarity. In my final moments, you made a very direct and scathing comment about the current your your opinion of the current media landscape in this country. Can you expand on that a little bit? Obviously, there's, you know, and and other people have concerns as well. So can you expand on what you're referring to in your description?
Speaker 1: I have been doing YouTube for 10 years. When I started doing YouTube, it was individuals that were interested in sharing their opinions and beliefs without compensation that genuinely cared about issues. Over the past 10 years
Speaker 10: I'm referring to is you talked to mister John's question. You talked about receiving compensation, and you made reference to the the the media outlets that exist today
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 10: The national media outlets receiving compensation from potentially places in this globe that are hostile to our democracy in Canada?
Speaker 1: Yes. What I was getting to is I believe there is a, I would have to give a written response later with the details. But based on my time sorry?
Speaker 3: Could you Yes.
Speaker 1: I can. Based on the time I've spent in media, over those 10 years, I believe that a large majority of content is being influenced both from corporations, domestic government, foreign government being paid for. I I would say that even half the contributions, likes, and views on content are now all boughtted, not legitimate genuine views. They're being, and this is part of the reason that I am personally stepping away from my partaking in social media myself because I don't believe that a lot of the Internet we are engaging with today are real people. It is very different.
You can feel it if you spent time on the Internet 10 years ago.
Speaker 7: Great. Thank you.
Speaker 0: Thank you, mister Matz. Miss Sahed for 5 minutes.
Speaker 4: Thank you, chair. Miss Sadran, have you been contacted by Canadian or American law enforcement about your role in the Russian run tenant media op given the u US indictment?
Speaker 1: Yes. As I mentioned, CSIS came to my house while I was making dinner for my child and tried to speak with me, but did so in a way that I was not comfortable with. And I've also quite frankly experienced quite a bit of harassment and stalking from them. When I told them I did not wanna speak, they called me dozens and dozens of times. They found my gym.
They told me that if I if I did not essentially become an informant for them, that I love being a mother. I love my child, and I would love to see him grow up and be there to provide for him, and it would be a shame if something happened to me. So I'm not too impressed with the state of law enforcement in this country right now, to be honest.
Speaker 4: Are you aware that the content you created, for tenant media, Russian disinformation campaign, is still available on tenant's, Rumble page?
Speaker 1: I have no control over that, but sure.
Speaker 4: Have you, spoken to, Lauren Chan or Riem Donovan since the US indictment? I have not. You have no relationship with them?
Speaker 1: I have not spoken to them since the indictment. No.
Speaker 4: Will the will you use this opportunity today to call on Tenen to remove any and all content created by you from, their Rumble and X accounts?
Speaker 1: No. All the content I made was of my own volition based on my own opinions and free speech. So I'm happy for that content to still be out there. Quite frankly, I spent a lot of money making some beautiful documentaries in which hardworking Canadians are featured, who put themselves out there, and are now being slandered as Russian disinformation, and I think that's a real shame.
Speaker 4: TikTok, Meta, and YouTube have all removed Tenant Media from their platforms using the US indictment, ex formerly known as Twitter, has not. So why do you think that is the case?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm not. I don't work for these social media companies.
Speaker 4: Knowing what you do now about, like, about the channel media and where their money was coming from, would you do anything differently?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wouldn't have worked for them if I knew where the money was coming from.
Speaker 4: I'll pass my time to miss O'Connell.
Speaker 9: Thank you. Chair, I move to resume debate on the amendment to the motion proposed by mister Moran.
Speaker 0: So we have a motion to resume debate on the floor. I'm looking around the room. Do we have UC? No. I'm seeking, shaking of heads.
Do you wanna record the vote?
Speaker 10: Okay.
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I'm questioning whether the BC CDC and Bonnie Henry will reveal the amplification levels used in PCR tests for the recent "bird flu" case in a teenager. Was it 25, 35, 40, or even 45? Fauci mentioned that anything above 35 isn't reliable. Are we going to let this happen again?
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Will the BC, Canada CDC and Bonnie Henry be disclosing how high the PCR "test" was amped up to find a "bird flu?" in the teenager? Was it 25? Was it 35? Was it 40? 45? Even Fauci himself said 35 plus is not submittable. Here in Canada our corrupted officials were amping 40 plus to find Covid. Will we fall for this again?
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I live in a province plagued by corruption, particularly within our health authority, which recently reported Canada's first human bird flu case right after Trump's win. Leaked tapes reveal Bonnie Henry and others discussing plans for PCR testing and bird flu propaganda. Canadian farmers seem distrustful of the health officials, indicating they believe the testing is fraudulent. Clips from a leaked Zoom meeting show officials laughing about the situation and discussing potential shutdowns. I worry we might be the next epicenter for global restrictions.
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Just for the record I live in the most corrupted province with the most corrupted health authority, and it is coincidentally OUR BC health authority that just found the "first case of HUMAN BIRD FLU" in Canada coincidentally RIGHT after the Trump win. Don't forget that LEAKED tape of Bonnie Henry and the other corruptibles desperate to start PCR testing us to find the "bird flu" back in May. Leaked tapes in comments section...
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Funny they didn't diagnose anyone with "bird flu" until right after the Trump win. Will WE be the location that starts the next shut down of the world? Only time will tell. I hope not. https://t.co/Mm7v5CrKYz
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I discovered that emails obtained through freedom of information requests show the Gates Foundation, NIH, and BioNTech were planning COVID vaccines before the WHO officially recognized COVID-19 as a concern or declared it a pandemic. Check out the full episode for more details.
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Breaking: Freedom of information emails reveal Gates Foundation, NIH, and BioNTech had been organizing covid "vaccines" well before the WHO had even declared "Covid 19" as an official "concern" let alone a "Pandemic." These are just short clips from the full episode... https://t.co/wO97x909dR
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Welcome to Liberty Talk Canada. Bill Gates has been linked to COVID-19 vaccine preparations before the pandemic was officially declared. Through a Freedom of Information request, it was revealed that the Gates Foundation was in discussions with BioNTech about a vaccine as early as February 2020, despite the WHO not declaring a pandemic until March. The Gates Foundation had also invested in BioNTech in September 2019, suggesting prior knowledge of the outbreak. Emails indicate that NIH officials were more concerned about market sentiment regarding vaccines than public health. This behavior reflects a profit-driven approach, with key figures in the NIH potentially benefiting financially from vaccine developments, similar to Graham's involvement with Moderna.
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Speaker 0: Welcome to Liberty Talk Canada. I'm Odessa Orlowitz. Smoking gun, Bill Gates, through freedom of information request by ICANN, has been proven that he was teeing up COVID 19 vaccines well before the pandemic was even declared. At this point, they put Martha Stewart in jail for far less than what Bill Gates is slowly getting caught for. Back in 2020, ICANN sued NIH to get access to his emails during the pandemic and won.
The latest batch contains a very interesting email in which Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation official introduces Graham at NIH to Ugar Sahin, CEO of BioNTech. Now isn't that interesting? They were already working on COVID vaccines when it wasn't even declared till January 30th that it was an outbreak of concern. Nothing more than outbreak of concern. And the pandemic wasn't called a pandemic by the WHO till March 11th.
Why is it that prior to the WHO announcing that it's a concern on the 30th January 2019, these guys say they've already been working on a vaccine in their February 2nd conversation. In other words, they knew this was a pandemic, and they had been starting to prepare well before it. It's a smoking gun. These emails are a smoking gun. Even though the rest of it is redacted, this is enough.
So we know that the Gates Foundation bought shares in BioNTech back in September 2019. So one person had a cold that they labeled SARS CoV-two and they'd already been setting all this up. And that it is ready to discuss a corresponding license agreement. In another email on March 13, 2020, a market research company reached out to Graham saying that stock markets were plunging and asking him to answer some questions to help them understand market sentiment of the vaccines industry towards COVID 19 vaccines. So they weren't worried about saving lives.
They were worried about money. Graham forwarded the email to the VRC director and said, FYI, quote, I never answer inquiries like this, but do you think it might be appropriate for people like us to speak to the investor world and try to calm things down? In other words, saying, come on, guys. This is it. We're making these vaccines.
You're gonna make a ton of money. They they had this all teed up. Both these incidences show how the NIH acts just like a for profit corporation. This is Fauci. You know, he's the science.
Corporation with a vested interest in forming partnerships and worrying about financial markets, perhaps because the agency and many of its employees stand to profit from the success of the vaccines they develop, just like Graham did from the Moderna vaccine.
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Here's the full episode: https://t.co/e7JtFgzpx0
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I found John Rustad's interview today to be his best yet, as he confidently took on a CBC interviewer who seemed intent on undermining him. It felt like a clear win for him, highlighting how CBC is perceived to be aligned with the radical left NDP in BC. This is the John we need.
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BC Conservative leader John Rustad finds his voice and finally annihilated this CBC interviewer today who was obviously sent to try to squash John. This is the BEST interview John has done to date. Take a look at this CBC fake news absolute FAIL. CBC does not even bother to hide the fact anymore that they are working for the radical left NDP in BC. This is the John everyone wants and needs...
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I’m frustrated with CBC for cutting out the end of John Rustad's speech on their YouTube channel. After waiting over four hours to capture the moment, they removed the part where he brought his wife on stage, which was the most touching segment. It feels like this omission supports a false narrative about conservatives. I urge CBC to correct this by including the full speech, especially the part with his wife, as it’s important to present the complete context. This situation is disappointing.
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Hey CBC why did you CUT OUT the end of BC Conservative leader John Rustad's speech on your official YouTube channel? You waited for over 4 hours at the back of the room JUST to get this speech, but cut it off as soon as he brought his wife on stage for the most touching part of the speech. Is it because it would cancel your fake narrative that conservatives are misogynists? In the comments section is the CBC version. CBC will you do the right thing and replace the video with the part to include his wife? YOU CBC are GROSS.
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The speaker expresses gratitude for the support that has propelled the Conservative Party in British Columbia. He acknowledges the party was at 2% in the polls when he considered leadership, with no elected members in 50 years and no government formed in almost 100 years. He says he saw a hunger for common-sense change across the province.
He states the party now stands as the strongest conservative party in a century due to a grassroots movement. He says they are neck and neck with the NDP and haven't given up the fight. He believes the NDP will not keep its promises if it forms a minority government and the Conservative Party will resist further destruction of the province.
He thanks the candidates and volunteers. He credits Azim Jawani, Angelo Isadora, and Conor Gibson for their work. He thanks his wife, Kim, for her support and encouragement. He says the election isn't over and they still have a chance to form government and bring common-sense change. He hopes the Conservative Party will become the next dynasty to provide good government for British Columbia.
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Speaker 0: Wow. What a night. Thank you guys for being out tonight. How does it feel now to have conservative party rocking British Columbia? It's no question this has been a historic night.
This has been a night where we have seen the political landscape in British Columbia change forever. And that's all because of you, because of the work that you guys have done and your support. So I just wanna start by saying thank you to everybody who's been part of this Conservative Party in British Columbia. When I was first asked to consider taking on the leadership of the Conservative Party, I did question. I said, wait a second here.
This party is at 2% in the polls. It hasn't elected anybody in almost 50 years. It hasn't formed a government in almost a 100 years. But I looked at it and in particular, I started going around the province just jumping in my car, driving around with, with my Chief of Staff. And we would go and start meeting with a few people.
And we'd have a couple of people in here, maybe 4 people over there, maybe a dozen people in another community. And everywhere we went, we heard the same thing. People were hungry for common sense change in British Columbia. And that momentum kept growing. Every time we went to another location, we came back to the location, we'd have more and we'd have double, triple, quadruple the numbers that would come out.
People from all across the province saying, you know what, I actually think we've got a shot to do something here. And that belief kept growing. That belief right around this province kept building to the point today now where we now have the strongest conservative party that this province has seen in a 100 years. And the beauty of this is this is a grassroots movement. This is just people that the salt of the earth, the hardworking everyday people in this province that have stepped up to the plate and said, yes, we can do things different.
We can envision a province that can bring hope and prosperity for people across the province. That is what we've been trying to do as a party. That's what we have brought forward. And that, quite frankly, is why we're seeing us still neck and neck with the NDP and we have not given up this fight yet. We are gonna keep pushing hard.
And I believe strongly that this is what happens when you stand on values. This is what happens when you stand on principles. You put it out there. You say this is our vision. This is what we can do for our province.
This is where we can see our youth being able to build a future. And that is where I think we have gotten our strength. And I tell you something, we are so close right now. There is just a couple of seats that are just within 20, 30 votes that could very easily flip for us. There are still votes yet to be counted.
And I am optimistic that the people in this province I'm optimistic that people in this province are hungry for that change. And I can tell you something. What we have seen to date, because of the work that we've been doing, because of the pressure that we're putting on this government, think about it. They flipped on the carbon tax. They flipped on on on, decriminalization.
They flipped on involuntary care. They flipped on a whole bunch of things because they could see the damage that was being done. But I bet you this, and I'll say this right now, that if we have the unfortunate situation of David Eby being in a, a minority government, he will not do a single thing that he has promised. And that is something I'm almost guaranteed. And as the Conservative Party of British Columbia, if we're in that situation, we are going to make it as difficult as possible for this NDP to do any more destruction of this province.
We are going to continue this fight. We are going to continue this fight over the next days, over the next weeks, over the next months. If we have that honor of forming government, I can tell you something. We still are not going to give up. We're going to fight every single day to try to make sure that we do everything we can to improve the lives of people in this province.
People are counting on us. People are counting on the hope, on the opportunity, on the vision of what can be a British Columbia, a prosperous British Columbia. Not one, quite frankly, that is in the welfare state that it is today. That is what we are going to continue to fight on as the Conservative Party of British Columbia, certainly now and over the years to come. And I can tell you something, Gayles.
If we're in that situation of the NDP forming a minority government, we will look at every single opportunity from day 1 to bring them down at the very first opportunity and get back to the Bulls. This is too important for the people in this province. It's too important to not give or to to give up. It's too important to not keep fighting. People, the one thing I've heard and that really gave me strength throughout this entire campaign is the people coming up and saying that we were giving them hope.
We were giving them hope to be able to stay in this province and build a future. And to me, that's what has really struck to my heart. That is what has driven me. And I know that's what's driven our candidates, that hope that we can actually do something big and bright and better in this province. So we're going to continue that.
And I want to just say this to all of our candidates who stepped up to the plate and who ran. Thank you. You took a chance on us. You put your name forward. You gave us your time, your energy.
And you did us proud right across this province. And we have now elected already the largest number of conservatives in BC's history. But I tell you something, the candidates didn't do it alone. It was the volunteers that helped to make it work. And everywhere I went around the province connecting with the campaigns, the volunteers came out.
They were part of it. They just did an incredible job. And I can't thank the volunteers enough that took part in this campaign. You have really done this proud. You've done our province proud.
Most importantly though, you have done this party and you've done our hope, just spreading that hope for people. So thank you so much to our volunteers. I tell you without it, we would not have been able to do anything that we've done here today. You know, from day 1, when I was, kicked out of the former party for daring to stand up for my riding and the values that I believe or should be that we should fight for in this province. There's a person who really stood with me and helped me all the way along and that was my chief of staff, Azim Jawani.
He is somebody who has been working behind the scenes tirelessly and has done tremendous amount. Thank you so much to Azim. And I have to laugh because, in August of 2022, after, I found myself as an independent, I sat down and Azeem said, Hey, we've got to meet with Angelo. And we've got to meet with Angela Isadora, who is the, one of the, camp well, he was the campaign manager for us in this campaign, but he's one of the executive directors of the Conservative Party. And he said, let's have a conversation with them about what they're doing with the Conservative Party.
And that's where I got to really know and, understand the work that Angelo had done along with Conor Gibson, the other executive director. And I tell you something, those guys those guys along with the team, that was part of the Conservative Party, all the volunteers at the time because we had no money, we had nothing at the time. And so they just did an incredible job building up something that could actually be used in this province. So, you know, taking a party from absolutely nothing with no money and putting us in this situation today has been a remarkable job. And it's the people that were behind it that, working at the party that just, you know, a huge thank you to them.
They have done such a remarkable job to bring life into the Conservative Party of British Columbia. And I could tell you all the stories that went on, but it would take way too long. The stuff that happened behind the scenes as the party grew, all the growing pains and stuff. And it took a very strong president to make sure that they hold the ship going in the right direction to keep things happening. So, Asia, thank you so much for the work that you did.
Tremendous amount of work by our Lady. The whole team has been just remarkable to work with. And I want to take a second just to thank the team in my riding in the Chaco Lakes. I only got to spend one day or even half a day I should say during the campaign in my riding. And they fought very hard to make sure that we won that riding.
And so just a huge thank you to Nathan Giddey and the whole team up in the Chaco Lakes for the work that they did. And last, I want to call my wife up here. Kim, come up and join me on the stage. Kim has been an incredible rock for me, supporting me the whole way through. And a matter of fact, I wouldn't be doing this here if Kim hadn't actually talked me into this.
She really did an incredible thing. She pushed hard. She said, you know what? If you're not going to stand up and do this, who will? And she pushed hard to say, it's time.
We need to do this. We need as a family to do this sacrifice to do this work. And I'm very proud of Kim and the work that she's done and the support. It's just it's been absolutely incredible. So, Kim, I love you, sweetie.
Thank you so much for everything. So all I can say is this. We are going to carry on this fight. We are gonna fight every single day here. This election is not over.
We have an opportunity still to form government in the Colorado British Columbia and bring common sense change to British Columbia. So thank you once again and I tell you something, I really look forward to the work ahead. We will make sure that the conservative party carries forward in this province as the next dynasty to be able to provide good government for British Columbia. And it doesn't matter. We are going to carry on with this fight one way or the other.
And my hope is that sometime next week, we're gonna be in a different situation. And that's only because of you guys. So let's carry on. Let's carry on with the fight, everyone. Thank you so much.
Thank you, everyone.
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Important: A Vascular Surgeon in BC, Canada Exposes Just How Bad the NDP So Called "Healthcare Plan" Is. He Tells Why Right Here...And He's Pleading For BC Not To Vote NDP. These are shorter CLIPS of our longer interview. https://t.co/NhUS4wRkrC
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Bill 36 in BC, introduced by the NDP government, is being dismissed as a conspiracy theory by mainstream news. It suggests that foreign entities are gaining control and planning to exert more power over Canada. The author urges people to vote the NDP out in October.
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Yes I know we all already know about Bill 36 in BC, compliments of the communist NDP gov, but has everyone noticed this? Yet our mainstream news goes out of their way to say it's just a silly "conspiracy theory" that entities outside of Canada are in charge, and planning to take more power over us. In October vote the NDP out of power forever.
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Congrats to Dean Ryan in finishing his movie about Canada...It debuts this eve at 7pm PST. Link to one of the places it is airing in the comments section... https://t.co/7Gr4tae84a
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The video discusses the relationship between Fidel Castro and a woman, mentioning his charisma and charm. It also touches on his support for women's and gay rights, as well as his stance on marijuana legalization. There is criticism of Justin Trudeau, with mention of scandals and differing opinions on his leadership. Overall, the video reflects a mix of admiration and skepticism towards political figures.
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Speaker 0: Informal talks at an island hideaway intensified their respect for each other and their mutual enjoyment of skin diving added to the rapport. Oh, what a charmer. And you know why he's in power. He has got charisma coming out his ears. What a charmer.
Speaker 1: She said that Fidel was the sexiest man she'd ever met, and she spent the whole time flirting with him. In other news oh, wait. This is, Erin James Live with social media.
Speaker 2: Little
Speaker 3: did we know that the guy who did yoga,
Speaker 4: he was for women's rights, he was for
Speaker 2: gay rights. We thought he was just a run
Speaker 3: of the mill good guy. We had no idea what was coming for us.
Speaker 5: Marijuana? Well, why wouldn't I vote for him? I wanna see everybody have access.
Speaker 1: Been in my past, a very rare user of marijuana. The legalization of marijuana is not an event. It's a process.
Speaker 5: So it was a good vote for me at the time.
Speaker 1: Trudeau, sucker, slow. Troll sucker, Canada very much considers itself a collaborative, light, gentle, safe design. And over the last few years, that's really just your big reason for that is Just a few hundred tracks. I don't have
Speaker 5: The Trudeau is cash for access scandals, the AbiCon vacationing scandal. There's so many scandals many of the Canadians were duped.
Speaker 1: This feeling we have right now, this optimism for the future, if there's any country in the world that can live up to our collective expectations, it's this one. I, Justin and Jay so help me God. One word to Justin Trudeau. Treasonist, traitorist, scum.
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In a 45-second clip, Theresa Tam of Canada's Health is seen laughing about cats and bird flu messaging. Another clip shows Bonnie Henry of BC's Health Authority laughing about shutting down farms and people's livelihoods due to concerns about mink farms as a COVID risk. The posts refer to a leaked Zoom meeting discussing bird flu testing locations.
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Watch this separate 45 second clip where Theresa Tam of Canada "Health" laughs about cats and bird flu messaging, then next up: the infamous Bonnie Henry of BC's Health Authority laugh With glee about shutting down farms and people's livelihoods (due to her belief that mink farms were a covid risk.) Re: Zoom meeting leak about where to test for bird flu.
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We need to consider messaging about farm cats as pets. On a positive note, mink farms in BC were shut down, while Ontario still has them. A lawsuit against us was recently dismissed.
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Speaker 0: I I don't know who messages on that, but I I I also know that there's a gap. You know, we always seem somehow left with holding the bag as it were on the pets. So I'm assuming farm cats are pets. So we do have to think about it as well in terms of messaging. Yes.
There's a whole other Can I add one other thing? Sorry to Yes. On a positive note, the we shut down mink farms in BC, as you may know. Ontario, be aware, you still have them. But, and they launched a lawsuit against us that was just thrown out yesterday.
So
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LEAKED zoom meeting with Canada's Bonnie Henry and Theresa Tam from Health Canada and others from the "pandemic squad." This is just a clip. I am trying to upload the long version. Re: Getting ready for bird flu propaganda for their masters? https://t.co/J8oV3L2oh9
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In Quebec, the concern about H5N1 avian influenza is not high among the general population, but authorities are vigilant. There is a call for coordination between agricultural and health agencies at the national level in Canada. Funding is being allocated to address knowledge gaps, and there is a focus on pandemic preparedness. It is suggested to expand surveillance efforts to include goat and sheep milk testing. Communication strategies and preparedness for potential positive cases in Canada are emphasized. In British Columbia, there is interest due to past avian influenza outbreaks in poultry. Vigilance is urged, especially regarding raw milk products and potential risks to pets.
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Speaker 0: Just to just to share maybe that, it seems to be and it's really relevant, and I really appreciate last week discussion around this. But it is not seen as a a very large and, I mean, preoccupying problem inside the population in, at least in Quebec. I don't know if this is the same elsewhere. It it is in the backyard of of the information, but not seen as a big problem. In the meantime, in the same time, it's it's a concern for the authorities and namely the the premier or their office to make sure that we're not missing anything.
So it's just I'm not sure if it's the same everywhere in Canada, but it it is not seen as something very, worrying for the population so far. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yep. Don, did you wanna respond?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just. We we're seeing the exact same thing is that the, agricultural stakeholders are very live to it and the usual academics are very live to it. But the general population here in Canada has not really latched onto this story. The The only thing I will say to that, though, is that in the US, it started like that, and then it flipped very rapidly with the announcement of positive milk, and suddenly there was a huge groundswell of attention.
So I wouldn't wanna underestimate what would happen if we did find positive milk samples in Canada. I think it was the initial messaging also of it's not here. We haven't found it. Granted, we haven't been looking very hard, but we haven't found it yet. And therefore, there's nothing to see here.
So we will definitely, I I think we should prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
Speaker 0: Yeah. No. No. That as this is a very good, perspective, and I'm not saying that we should, rest on it. Not not at all.
It's just to inform that at least in our own concern context, it's not that heavy for the population. But, you're absolutely right. So thank you very much, and I'm sorry I have to leave you. But, and Yves will continue. Thank you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1: I I don't disagree, Michael. So, I think we all know that we're each joined up with our ag and animal health people. So I think if we all think we should invite them all to this call, it's just to initiate the coordination, obviously, between our agencies. But that can be set up is one of the questions I had.
Speaker 3: But, of course I would say I would say a formal table at the national level that pulls pulls the agricultural and human health leads from each province plus to a federal level to a formal table just like Kieran's described we've got in Ontario, so the key people from across the country meeting together regularly, at least for a period of time.
Speaker 1: Yep. So so in pandemic protocols, we have methods to escalate. Right? And you have special vice committees. This is a one health construct, so, you know, this is a little bit new.
So we need to kind of morph what we have into that, and it's prevention rather than, you know, an actual kind of response. So the 3 of these different, let's say, context means that this is actually something a bit different to what we had before. So I think setting it up right, would be important. And, so in any case, we're trying to get a handle on the research and the additional, you know, enhanced surveillance pieces from the provinces that we think might be doing studies and research. But what you're talking about is an overarching response, which, you know, point taken.
We'll we'll bring that back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And just to be helpful to also coordinate with some of those individuals, we're doing it at the federal level. But just to mention for you, those of you doing it at the provincial level, that it would be useful to direct some of their energies to expanding rather than just duplicating the large scale work that is going on. So, for example, you know, there were reports of goats being positive in the U. S a single report of goats.
They could test goat milk or sheep milk. That would be a way to expand at least to do some kind of sentinel work and understand things beyond what are are already going on at a large scale. So feel free to leverage your communications and creativity to expand our knowledge base.
Speaker 4: Sure. Thanks, Teresa. I'll just say a few words here. First, there will be funding issued into the system, around knowledge gaps. So that is something that, we'll have a a good handle on.
For the biomanufacturing and life sciences strategy investments, which have been made federally, we are intending on convening the hubs of those of the investment in order to understand both the capabilities and activities that may be going on, given the intention behind those hubs is certainly to be focused in on pandemic preparedness, and so there's a good opportunity to leverage. Intramurally across government departments, we've had a good discussion federally and this has been very helpful in terms of billing in capabilities at the provincial level around what the lab, both our national lab, but also the National Research Council, the lab at CFIA, and other parts of the federal system are well positioned to do, and capabilities to be brought to bear, both in the immediate term but also in terms of surge capacity, if needed down the line, and there's certainly a strong precedent for that. So we'll also be working through the interdepartmental governance there. We're hopeful that we'll be able to track that in an ongoing way, and we're just working on how to do that. And so it's not a question of whether.
We will sort of gather who's responding to what. It's just a question of how, and that work is in progress.
Speaker 1: Great. So, in summary, I think there's actually quite a lot to discuss, both on an urgent bay you know, relatively urgent basis and, in the, short and medium term given the evolution of h five m one situation, particularly in the United States. I I think it is also an opportunity for us to just set up the right kind of structures and governance to enable the connectivity across, problems and territories. So I think, Michael, your point is really important. I know we focus on the science and the research and the, you know, studies for this call.
Now Bonnie is here. Kieran's here. I mean, we actually, you know, connect with chief veterinary officers. That's the quickest way is, like, sees chief medical officers and chief veterinary officers. We don't have a protocol, to be honest, to be escalating in the time of prevention, as I said, but things can be done.
You know? It can be done, and test some of these structures out.
Speaker 5: And we need to have a communication strategy, the first positive note there, there may not be a lot of outrage in Quebec, but there's certainly a lot of interest in the BC because of the high path AI in poultry that we've been through in the last 2 years. So it's on people's minds. If we have a positive milk, people will want to know that we know what it's about and that we're on it and that we're watching and that we're working together. So I to me, that's the most important thing we need in the short term.
Speaker 1: I think in in some ways, people are thinking, oh, well, it's only pass through our samples, and we expect it to be negative. Well, there will be the odd thing, you know, the unexpected. So we'll sort of press on with that with our colleagues. And I I keep telling you, I feel I'm more than they are. I'm not sure.
Maybe it's all hidden underneath, but, I prefer to be much more forward leaning and maybe anticipate that something is positive in Canada. And we can manage it, you know, as long as we, you know, set it out with a degree of thoughtfulness. Yes. And then we we should sort of, again, have a bit of a focus on the on the raw milk people because that is probably you know, dealing with the pasteurized bit is fine. I think this might actually go fairly smoothly, but then the, you know, we probably need a discussion on how to address all the people who, you know, counter anti pasteurization.
And then there's goat. I I know nothing about cheese. I don't eat cheese, but apparently, goat goat milk products are, you know, frequently more frequently unpasteurized. Slightly scary as well. And then there's all the other layers of surveillance that we thought might be useful for, the other mammals, yeah, swine, etcetera.
Right? But the animal health people are not quite as interested as we are, and it may be in the research domain that we're gonna be examining the swine and and other, relevant farm and, farm animals in particular. Yes. The cats don't do well. Do not feed your cats with raw milk products.
I I don't know who messages on that, but I I I also know that there's a gap. You know, we always seem somehow left with holding the bag as it were on the pets. So I'm assuming farm cats are pets. So we do have to think about it as well in terms of messaging. Yes.
There's a whole other
Speaker 5: Can I add one other thing? Sorry
Speaker 1: to Yes.
Speaker 5: On a positive note, the we shut down mink farms in BC, as you may know. Ontario, be aware, you still have them. But, and they launched a lawsuit against us that was just thrown out yesterday. So
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Canada's contract with Pfizer regarding Covid shots has been released through a FOI request, revealing concerning information. The interview with Cris provides un-redacted and redacted parts, exposing what Canada chose to withhold from its citizens. Watch the full interview for more details.
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FOI Forces Canada To Release Their Contract With Pfizer Re: Covid Shots. It Shows Our Gov Knew This Thing Was Dangerous & A Lot More Appalling Info. Interview. Cris comes on after my opening. These are just clips. I highly recommend watching the entire interview. He shows un-redacted AND redacted parts that other countries did not redact. He shows what Canada redacted for their citizens. How special. Full interview in the comments...
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The speakers discuss a contract between Pfizer and Canada, highlighting that it shows the government knew the vaccine's safety and efficacy were unknown. They criticize Trudeau for distancing himself from the contract and accuse the government of lying and covering up the truth. The speakers also mention that the contract lacks accountability and mention the issue of serialization. They argue that forcing people to take the vaccine without complete clinical trials is criminal. They express their belief that the government is evil and express their mission to expose and hold them accountable. The speakers also discuss the gender issue, batch differences, and the risks and uncertainties mentioned in the contract. They conclude by mentioning the removal of anti-bribery and anti-corruption sections from the contract.
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Speaker 0: That. And in the contract, it literally shows that they knew they didn't know if this was safe. They knew they didn't know how many people would be injured. They knew it might not work well before they forced it on everyone. So everything we've been saying is true.
The media is lying. The government's lying. Health Canada's lying was lying. I mean, you know, They're still trying to cover it up. So you get to actually see, for those of you on the fence, they knew.
And Chris is gonna talk about Trudeau and how he's trying to distance himself from it saying, I don't know. I didn't look at it. I don't know. You know you know what they do. You know what these parasites do.
Speaker 1: No. Let me clarify. So that's not bold. That's not italicized. This is still in the contract.
Oh my gosh. Okay. Even It's not even redacted.
Speaker 0: Oh my gosh. Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I we don't have to we don't have to, explain to anybody. This is actually in the contract. Purchaser further acknowledges that the long term effects and efficacy of the vaccine are not currently known, and then there may be adverse effects of the vaccine that are not currently known. Further to the extent applicable, purchaser acknowledges that the product may not shall not be serialized.
We're actually needed to talk to dark doctor Trozzi about this one, because every single vaccine and medicine has a serial number, And they've gone out of their way to not serialize these vials. So we're trying to get clarification on exactly what that means, but To me, it looks like they're trying to remove accountability. So this kinda breaks that section down. You know, the they have not completed clinical trials. Adverse effects are not known, you know, and and see my my note and see there is that any any claim of safe and effective is actually disinformation because that right there, which was not redacted, oddly enough, because you would think they would, 55 shows that they did not know They could not say it was safe and effective.
So that's one thing. They couldn't say it was safe and effective, but they did anyway. That's a lie. Forcing people to take it then becomes criminal, a criminal action. You know, lying is just, You know, run of the mill and just another day for politicians.
But the fact that they said you can't get on a plane, you can't get on a train, You're misogynistic. You don't know the science. Like, everything that Trudeau said about people, he knew that was a lie because they Actually, we're further into the science than he was the day he got on that television station and in Yeah.
Speaker 0: They've already signed a contract, Pfizer and Canada saying we don't know if these are safe or effective. It's right there in the Pfizer Canada contract that not enough people are talking about, and Thank you to the person that did the FOI. Do you know who did the FOI? Was it
Speaker 1: Daniel Daniel Freje.
Speaker 0: Okay. So it was him. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Thank you, Daniel.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So and and but that was not redacted. I mean, that is the biggest smoking gun in the whole contract, I think. And and they didn't try to hide that, which is great for us because it shows that they're they're truly evil. Like, I'm just I don't I try not to do my own judgment stage.
I try to just keep it factual and then report the truth, but I've really come to the conclusion that this government is Truly and truly evil. Like, it's just they're awful. So just watching the devastation all across BC, See, and now we've been doing it here in Ontario and same thing. It's what our government has done is is just beyond criminal. Mhmm.
You know, so anything that we can do to expose this and make sure that they get held accountable is is kinda half of our mission now. You know? The beginning of the contract is between her majesty the queen in right of Canada represented by the minister of public works and government services Canada. This goes back to Trudeau setting up his a case for himself, his own exit strategy. That was the only contract Out of all of them, and then we've now got the Albania one, and you can add that one on.
All of them were between Pfizer and either the Ministry of Health or the government itself. This is the only one that made one minister responsible for the contract. And that's what I'm saying. Like, Trudeau is setting Anita Anand up. He's gonna slaughter her.
And if her people's watching this show, you should protect your your, your MP there. So he's done that, and I also put a video, like, over a year ago where he is constantly saying, I don't know. Health Canada recommended these these shots. I don't No. Don't ask me.
I'm just a politician. So he's doing everything he can to give himself a safety net.
Speaker 0: After he went on TV and said, I will not sit next to an unvaccinated person on the plane, and then screwed all his federal workers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And we're we're about to get into that. It says, quote I'm quoting, and this is exactly from the contract. Except where con where the context expressly requires otherwise, a, the use of any gender herein shall be deemed to encompass references to either or both genders. So with all of their liberal rhetoric, when it comes to when push comes to shove, both scientifically and legally, Anita Anand has admitted that there are only 2 genders.
So regardless of their political, rhetoric that they wanna push out there, that's what she actually believes. So far as to even go, like, Canada and Israel were allowed to donate their excess. South Africa was neither allowed to donate nor give out Any of so their batch was their batch, and they weren't allowed to actually share it with anyone else, and they weren't allowed to take batches from somewhere else. So you start getting into Really serious questions on why that is. Well, we know all
Speaker 0: the batches were different and how bad's my batch, will tell you which batches people We're off the most.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. So under the definitions, I just, I glossed over that. But in commercially reasonable efforts, in section b, Pfizer's efforts to develop, and manufacture the product are aspirational In nature. So they'll aspire to do the best and subject to significant risks and uncertainties, and that's section 112 b.
So, basically, they have just said there in b that there are significant risks and uncertainties. So right there, that one line says that they cannot go around saying safe and effective. So They lied. That's one thing. But then they've coerced and forced you into doing it.
And that is being what becomes goes from negligence, criminal negligence into far more sinister, crimes.
Speaker 0: It it was very evident that this is why no politicians can say anything to their constituents bad about this. It's in the contract.
Speaker 1: It is, and Canada would have to pay for it if there was a lawsuit. Yeah. And that's a big thing. Always follow the money. Right?
Question b, Pfizer's efforts to develop and manufactured the product are aspirational in nature, so they'll aspire to do the best and subject to significant risks And uncertainties. And that's section 112 b. So, basically, they have just said there in b that there are significant risks And uncertainties. So right there, that one line says that they cannot go around saying safe and effective. So they lied.
That's one thing. But then they coerced and forced you into doing it. And that is being what becomes goes from negligence, criminal negligence into far more sinister crimes. So just going moving on to 112 c, it says, notwithstanding the efforts and yada yada yada, it ends with the Product may not be successful due to technical, clinical, regulatory, manufacturing, shipping, storage, or other challenges or failures. So once again, this undermines safe and effective.
So they have they have said straight out that it might not be effective and it might not work in in so far as To say it might be, risky. It's the little things. Like, everybody knew when the other two contracts came out that they've got this big identity clause and that That Pfizer wouldn't get held responsible. It's not Pfizer that we should be angry at. It's our government that actually are letting them get away With all the stuff they're letting them get away with, they signed this contract knowing that this was a risky product.
If you go back to Health Canada, the application to Health Canada in the beginning, you know, there you pick out a few things. Health Canada in the beginning, you know, there you pick out a few things like it was never tested for carcinogenic properties. And now what are we getting at? We're getting it we're getting into turbo cancers. So they never tested whether or not it would cause cancer.
The other thing it wasn't tested for is genotoxicity. It's a gene therapy, and they don't know what kinda action it would have on our genes. So they didn't test for any of that. And so that alone should have been enough for Health Canada to say no. Health Canada from this concert contract knows That it was not safe and it was not effective.
Speaker 0: Correct. Now
Speaker 1: using those words was ridiculous. Or in the other contracts, just it's a important note that There was actually 5 sections to anti bribery. Canada kind of took the easiest parts of section a and b and amalgamated them. But there was section c, d, e, and maybe even f, in the other two contracts. Canada gutted and took out most of the anti bribery, Anti corruption section of this contract.
Just for the record.
Speaker 0: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that's where you start looking at it in a different light, and that's why it's really important to see what they actually took out.
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Pfizer Whistleblower Exposes Glowing Vials, Satan Documents, Bizarre Bags From China And More...These are clips from our interview. Full episode in comments section. https://t.co/4CyllxTdiT
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The speaker, a quality auditor at Pfizer, shares their concerns about the company's COVID-19 vaccine. They discovered that the vaccine vials were glowing and raised the issue with corporate, but received an unsatisfactory response. They also found documents in the company's database that mentioned the use of aborted fetal cell lines in the vaccine's development and the possibility of graphene oxide being present. The speaker noticed unusual security measures and a lack of proper quality control procedures. They also stumbled upon documents referencing depopulation and Satanism. Additionally, they discovered a Pfizer research and development lab in Wuhan with the address 666. The speaker believes that Pfizer, along with other organizations like the FDA and CDC, are aware of these issues. They express their distrust in vaccines and pharmaceutical companies in general.
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Speaker 0: And then the 1st day that we got the product on the lines, I was one of the 1st auditors to go look at it. And I walk in the room, and it's glowing on the table. And I was like, I guess it's not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 0: So I started to really kinda start digging, observing a little bit more than normal, being more involved with my job, the normal, different things like that. And, I actually emailed corporate and asked them communications. I asked them. I said, hey. As a quality auditor, I'm concerned about the glowing of the vials and so are other people on the lines.
What is the glowing? And they were like, we're not aware of any glowing. Do you have pictures? And so I quit answering because clearly, if these are the people answering the questions coming in from all around the world about their product and they don't even know what it looks like. That really kinda killed my optimism, for the company, things like that.
I stumbled across the database.
Speaker 1: Okay. Hold on. Just to backtrack to that, once I I think it was on Man in America where You were talking about, how they were saying go ask the FDA or something. You're trying to say there's something up with this product, And Pfizer said, I don't know. Go ask the FDA.
Right?
Speaker 0: Well, I yeah. I actually emailed them asking them for an ingredient list, and they responded with the CDC link that was, the CDC's posted ingredients.
Speaker 1: Okay. K. But they wouldn't tell you what the ingredients are. They want you to find it from CDC.
Speaker 0: Because Pfizer won't lie to you. They'll have other people do it for them so that they can say they didn't say that.
Speaker 1: So you thought it was odd that they didn't just send you the ingredient list? Like, that was kind of weird.
Speaker 0: Yes. Because in our in quality, we're actually supposed to, like, verify the products. And when stuff's not matching up, we should to be able to have those answers, and they they didn't want us to have those apparently.
Speaker 1: Okay. So then what?
Speaker 0: Well, I got married in July of 2021, and so I was gone from work for a period of time during that. And then when I came back in August, I started to get things had amped up because I'd been gone for some time, and I come back and things had, like, changed. Like, security around this product was really weird. Why are we having security on product that's not controlled like morphine or something? Why why did we add new security and plants.
Why can't certain people walk by the product? Like, they they had it to where you had to have special access to go by the rooms and into the rooms and all this, and I just thought That was all weird and crazy. And I saw this interview on this show called FlyOver Conservatives, and they had a lady on there who said, these are the code words for all of the stuff that they're doing in these shots. And so I wrote all of those down, and I took them to work the next day. I had stumbled across the database that month, but I wasn't finding anything, like nothing that mattered at all.
And so I just thought, okay. And but when I typed in the codes that this lady had mentioned such as the HEK 293 T, those were getting the results, which, the first Thing I looked up was those HEK two three t cells, and I got those emails that Project Veritas exposed, which was them showing that they didn't want the public to know that they use these aborted fetal cell lines in the development of the vaccine, which means In the lab, they use these fetal cells. I can't prove that the fetal cells are in the vaccine, seen, but I can prove that they were used and that their intent for not wanting people to know was so that they could deny religious exemptions, by saying they weren't used.
Speaker 1: And also you stumbled upon an email that said, They can't guarantee there's no Graphene Oxide in these. Right? Was something about these are made all over the world? Tell me about that email.
Speaker 0: Yes. So there is a woman from communications who emailed someone higher up and was like, hey. This lady has a question. She wants to know if Graphene oxide is in the vaccine. Here is my suggested answer.
What do you think? And the suggested answer was, Graphene oxide is not listed as an ingredient on the Pfizer Biotech back experimental vaccine. However, we cannot guarantee that minute amounts of substances that aren't in the Ingredient list didn't make it into the product because we use global suppliers. Mhmm, for their Stuff. So to me, her answer was honest.
She's basically saying we can't guarantee there aren't flies in your peanut butter kind of thing. Like, we get so many people we can't guarantee what's in there and all of that. Well, then the guy that she asked for approval on that quest that statement. He said, could we delete that 2nd part and just leave the 1st part of graphite Side is not listed as an ingredient because it's our common disclaimer, to not guarantee that things aren't in there. So, basically, he's saying it goes without saying, like, don't say that because then they're gonna be like, oh my gosh.
So it it could be in there. Just say it's not an ingredient. That's all he wanted.
Speaker 1: Anna and other people have found Graphene oxide and Nanotech and all that. I've been following that.
Speaker 0: A lot of doctors since have come forward, and they've got down those. Yes. And that was just all being waved on. So she was having paperwork come across her desk for finalization to send this product to people, and there were missing signatures, and they she would just be told to sign them or leave them blank and just send it along. And same with dates.
Date, if there was a missing date.
Speaker 1: Can I ask, Mitt, what were those signatures supposed to say? It was quality quality control checked? Like, what kind of what were those signatures before?
Speaker 0: It's usually like, for example, cleaning the tubing. Sign that you clean the tubing. Guess what? That didn't get signed. Was the tubing ever cleaned?
We don't know because it wasn't signed for or dated. Another one would be, for example, if I performed an audit on the product, and I forgot to sign for it even though I filled out everything else. Because it missed my signature, it didn't count. Mhmm. But that all went out the window with the operation warp speed.
Speaker 1: Right. Mhmm.
Speaker 0: Okay. So you For every product, by the way, not just the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 1: And and was that happening for all of the other products? Did that not happen before that? It was kind of like when COVID started, all the products just kind of stopped being professional the way they're supposed to do it?
Speaker 0: Yes. And, you know, I mean, Humans are susceptible to error all the time, but when those error the errors used to be addressed and fixed or, like, done ethically in my opinion. And then when operation Warp Speed came in, it was, let's get as much out as we can. If there's a speed bump, just keep going, and that's just for everything. And I obviously was not comfortable with that.
I raised my concerns, I can't even tell you how many times, to my direct supervisor because Pfizer's very strict about their chain of command. I would go to my supervisor. My supervisor would go to his boss, and then he was supposed to do something with these this information, and I was always told to let it go. Not for my direct supervisor who also had these moral questions on these things, but his boss would just be like, yep, it's okay. It's okay.
Product would be in rooms it shouldn't be. Product, 2 different kinds of products side by side in a room. It's very dangerous. You know, you could be packaging Vancomycin and accidentally mix it with something else and get the wrong label on it, send the stuff out wrong, which has happened. Like I said, people are Easy to make mistakes.
Speaker 1: So What's interesting is it's just being shown now, because I know you follow everything now too, is that The product that they had approved and said this safe product was not even the one they gave everybody. Like, it's it was a completely different product.
Speaker 0: The approved, quote, unquote, approved vaccine has never been given in America. Yeah. And then there was 1 document in particular that I thought was really weird that was saying, like, repentance bounds, Satan and his all consuming power. And it was like praising Satan in the little because, like, I had to sign in to be able to view the entire document, which I wasn't gonna do, but I could preview the document. So I would preview it, and I can only see just a little bit of it.
And in that preview, it was like praising Satan, and, I searched the phrase that had been entered in that document. And Google searched it, and it showed up that it was from a book, a Satanist book. And I thought, well, that's really weird. Like, Not just anybody can put anything in the database. I tried.
I tried to put stuff in the database, and I couldn't because I'm a lower ranking employee, but supervisors and managers and Higher ups than them can put stuff in the database. So this isn't some 22 year old doing some funny book report on a satanic book for college that saved it to the computer, and It's on the database now. That's not how it works. And so, yeah, I found that
Speaker 1: high up had to put in a database that other people with the same clearance could look at,
Speaker 0: we could fully open, but they would have to log in to see it. So, like, I wasn't gonna fall for that trick because I felt like that would flag me. And because I was just hunting at this point. I wasn't like, I'm gonna whistle blow. That never came to my mind until a month, of being off work.
I took a mental health leave from work when I found those documents because I needed to get my stuff together. I needed to figure out what I was gonna do. At the time, I was just showing my loved ones Mhmm. The proof of all of that. And then the other document, I typed in depopulation, and it just said things that help control world population.
What can cause depopulation? And then they list, like, sexual disease, viruses. They just listed things that limit the population, and that's all that I could see. And I thought, well, that's weird. Like, what is this?
And I searched, like like I did for the Satan one where I copy paste it in Google to see where it would take me, and it wasn't coming up with a book or anything like that. So I still don't know, like, What are they talking about in that article or in that document that they had on their database about depopulation? Was it a something that was good about, like, They don't want depopulation, or was it good things for depopulation like they want to depopulate? So, that I don't know, but I thought it was really weird that it was in there. To me, if you have all these accusations coming at you that you're trying to kill the world, why do you got depopulation documents in your database?
Speaker 1: And Satan documents.
Speaker 0: And Satan documents. Yes.
Speaker 1: And, coincidentally, the Wuhan lab, You looked up the address, or how did you stumble upon the six six six address?
Speaker 0: Well, I searched 666 in the database, and, of course, a bunch of stuff pops up. There's a pediatric medicine they do, a pediatric serum that's number 666. That was the main thing I was finding. But then I found something that was like a like an invite of some kind. I don't really know how to describe it.
And I clicked it, and it was about Wuhan, China 666 Gaksau Lane, and it said Pfizer Research and Development Lab. So I was like, what? So then I went to Google. I typed in Wuhan 6 I typed in the address, and I typed in Pfizer. And it was Pfizer research and development in Wuhan, China address 666.
It was an actual place, and I was like, oh, that's really weird.
Speaker 1: Now you screenshotted that. You have it. Right?
Speaker 0: Yes. And I actually got in trouble at work because I posted it. But then after the whistle blowing, I gave a speech in my in a local church, and someone came up to me afterwards and said, hey. I worked in incoming quality during all of this, and I, saw these bags coming in, raw materials coming in that had Chinese or Asian letters they couldn't read, markings on the bags, and that's it. And I thought, oh, interesting.
So you worked in incoming quality and the other person worked in compounding, and she said, no. The these incoming quality people don't deal with anybody sitting on the floor like that, so they didn't even know each other. They didn't talk about this.
Speaker 1: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: And to hear that, I was kinda like, well, thank you. You kinda confirmed something else that someone else had said. And so now I tell people that, that, yes, there are other people, who have seen that these bags are unmarked and the only markings are Chinese or Asian marking letters, and they have a lot here with their their mixing.
Speaker 1: Fluid in bags, okay, that you're supposed to add to the vaccines.
Speaker 0: That is the vaccine. Mhmm. Oh. It is the yeah.
Speaker 1: Now in the history of you being with Pfizer and knowing people that do this, Is that normal?
Speaker 0: No. Absolutely not. It's almost like baking a cake is how it's supposed to be, which is you get all the ingredients, you have a sheet, tells you, you know, mix part a and a part b, then mix c and a d, then combine, or like it had. It's more intricate and scientific than that. But it had they had specific instructions for making the solution, and with that, it wasn't like that.
It was kind of like, here's your stuff. Just mix it together. And they couldn't read what they're doing. Like, they couldn't read the what's on the bags or what's on anything.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like they wouldn't even know what the ingredients are.
Speaker 0: No. They wouldn't. Yeah. They didn't.
Speaker 1: And in normal vaccines, were you aware of what the ingredients were?
Speaker 0: Well, just, honestly, we didn't make a whole lot of vaccines at my plant. It was mostly just injectable pharmaceuticals. So, like, Levafed, Vancomycin, hydroxychloroquine I can't
Speaker 1: even chloroquine.
Speaker 0: Yeah. All these different injectable, medicines that Okay. Probably a lot of people have used. You would probably have used 1. A lot of people use those.
And, no. Nothing was ever treated this way. Nothing. Nothing glowed. Nothing was ever marked in Chinese that they didn't know that they were mixing.
Nothing ever came in from China that was like that. That was the solution itself. It was all first time that that had happened. So we were making remdesivir, leaving it blank in blank vials, sending it to Gilead, and then Gilead would put their label on it. And I think Pfizer kind of knew they didn't want their face on that because it's like they're just on everything then.
All I know is they're all in bed together. Everybody. And when I say everybody, I mean Pfizer, the FDA, the CDC, WHO, NIH, all of it. They all know what they're doing, but here's the thing. I don't think everybody in that Category knows.
I think, like, the people who know, like, know what's actually going on is, like, 1 in a 100. Like, I really don't think that many people are aware. Like, for example, my coworkers, the people who are still there are not bad people. They're not sitting there going, you know, let's get this killer stuff out to people to kill people. They're going to work trying to pay for their kid's school.
You know what I mean? And they go there. They think How do I say this? They're like for example, they won't vaccinate, they won't get the COVID vaccine, but they still will go get the flu shot. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But that even shows how bad the COVID shot is if they're still willing to go get vaccines where they know Funny stuff could be happening in all of them at this point.
Speaker 0: Most Pfizer employees do not like getting shots because we've seen especially in quality, We know that things aren't as clean as you think they are.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 0: When I had my son, they were trying to give me Pfizer products. Okay? They were trying to give me some blood pressure medication that was, LL 86 at my old job, and it failed so much. We had to fail that batch all the time. It was the worst, the dirtiest line.
And I told them, you're not giving me anything unless I can inspect it myself. And that scared a lot of nurses because they're like, what do you mean it's not that there could be something in there? And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. There there can certainly be stuff in there, and they didn't even know.
They don't even check the vials before giving it to the product to people. That's one of the documents I found on their database also. Was there goals with mRNA had the flu vaccine on there. And the same with the kids vaccines. Scenes.
My son is totally he's never had a needle in him whatsoever. The worst the most he's ever gotten was Ibuprofen for teething. And even then, that was a very hard decision for me to make. I don't trust anything anymore. Nothing from big pharma.
If somebody has to take a heart pill in order to live, you know that's between you and God. I just would never do it. Not anymore.
@OdessaOrlewicz - Odessa Orlewicz
I was asked to provide a shorter clip of just the part where this Pfizer whistleblower exposes Satan documents she found and the 666 lab. Here is that short clip. https://t.co/sayWSBxbed
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The speaker discovered strange documents in a database at work. One document praised Satan and was traced back to a Satanic book. The speaker found it suspicious that only higher-ranking employees could add documents to the database. They also found a document about depopulation, but couldn't determine if it supported or opposed it. The speaker then stumbled upon an address related to the Wuhan lab in China, which had the number 666. They verified this information on Google and took a screenshot. The speaker got in trouble for sharing the screenshot at work.
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Speaker 0: And then there was 1 document in particular that I thought was really weird that was saying, like, repentance bounds, Satan and his all consuming power. And it was, like, praising Satan in the little because, like, I had to sign in to be able to view the entire document, which I wasn't gonna do, but I could preview the document. So I would preview it, and I can only see just a little bit of it. And in that preview, it was like praising Satan, and, I searched the phrase that had been entered in that document. And Google searched it, and it showed up that it was from a book, a Satanist book.
And I thought, well, that's really weird. Like, not just anybody can put anything in the database. I tried I tried to put stuff in the database, and I couldn't because I'm a lower ranking employee, but supervisors and managers and higher ups than them can put stuff in the database. So this isn't some 22 year old doing some funny book report on a satanic book for college that saved it to the computer, and it's on the database now. That's not how it works.
And so, yeah, I found that somebody
Speaker 1: high up had to put in a database that other people with the same clearance could look at?
Speaker 0: We could fully open, but they would have to log in to see it. So, like, I wasn't gonna fall for that trick because I felt like that would flag me. And because I was just hunting at this point. I wasn't like, I'm gonna whistle blow. That never came to my mind until a month, of being off work.
I took a mental health leave from work when I found those documents because I needed to get my stuff together. I needed to figure out what I was gonna do. At the time, I was just showing my loved ones Mhmm. The proof of all of that. And then the other document, I typed in depopulation, and it just said things that help control world population, what can cause depopulation, and then they list, like, sexual disease, viruses, just they just listed things that limit the population, and that's all that I could see.
And I thought, well, that's weird. Like, what is this? And I searched, like like I did for the Satan one where I copy pasted in Google to see where it would take me, and it wasn't coming up with a book or anything like that. So I still don't know, like, what are they talking about in that article or in that document meant that they had on their database about depopulation. Was it a something that was good about, like, they don't want depopulation, or was it good things for depopulation, like, they want to depopulate.
So, that I don't know, but I thought it was really weird that it was in there. To me, if you have all these accusations coming at you that you're trying to kill the world, why do you have any population documents in your database?
Speaker 1: And satan documents.
Speaker 0: Insane documents. Yes.
Speaker 1: And, coincidentally, the Wuhan lab, you looked up the address. Or how did you stumble upon the 666 address?
Speaker 0: Well, I searched 666 in the database, and, of course, a bunch of stuff pops up. There's a pediatric medicine they do, a pediatric serum that's number 666. That was the main thing I was finding, but then I found something that was like a like an invite of some kind. I don't really know how to describe it. And I clicked it, and it was about Wuhan, China 666 Gak Sao Lane, and it said Pfizer research and development lab.
So I was like, what? So then I went to Google. I typed in Wuhan six I typed in the address, and I typed in Pfizer, and it was Pfizer research and development in Wuhan, China address 666. It was an actual place, and I was like, oh, that's really weird.
Speaker 1: Now you screenshotted that. You have it. Right?
Speaker 0: Yes. And I actually got in trouble at work because I posted it. But then after
@OdessaOrlewicz - Odessa Orlewicz
Stefan Homburg Professor UniHannover Author "Corona-Getwitter" | Leseprobe: statt Haltung | https://t.co/ga9S414MDG
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In this video, the speaker discusses five key points related to the COVID-19 pandemic in Germany. Firstly, the speaker mentions that hospital occupancy reached an all-time low in 2020. Secondly, there were fewer respiratory illnesses reported during this time, as COVID-19 replaced the flu. Thirdly, the number of deaths in 2020 was not significantly higher than usual. Fourthly, the average age of those who died from COVID-19 was 83, while the average age of other deceased individuals was 82. Lastly, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated that Sweden, without strict lockdown measures, fared better than Germany. The speaker emphasizes the importance of these facts and criticizes the government's response to the pandemic.
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Speaker 0: Meine sehr geehrten Damen und Herren, wir haben dunkle Jahre hinter uns, zunächst das Wichtigste in fünf Stichpunkten. Erstens sank die Klinikbelegung in Deutschland bundesweit im Jahre zwanzig zwanzig auf ein historisches Allzeittief, sagt das Bundesgesundheitsministerium. Zweitens gab es zwanzig zwanzig und zwanzig einundzwanzig nicht mehr schwere Atemwegs Erkrankungen als sonst. Corona kam, die Influenza verschwand zeitweise, sangen die Sentineldaten des RKI. Drittens starben im Jahr zwanzig zwanzig altersstandardisiert nicht mehr Menschen als sonst auch.
Erst seit zwanzig einundzwanzig nimmt die Sterblichkeit zu, sagen Daten des statistischen Bundesamts. Viertens waren Menschen, die mit oder an Corona verstarben, im Mittel dreiundachtzig Jahre alt Und die übrigen Verstorbenen im Mittel zweiundachtzig Jahre alt, sagen RKI und Statistisches Bundesamt. Fünftens und letztens, schnitt das Masken- und Lockdown freie Schweden besser ab als Deutschland, sagt die WHO. An den Maßnahmen lag das alles also nicht. In der Summe sind die fünf Behauptungen so unglaublich, dass Sie in Ihren Tagesunter-, Tagesunterlagen einen Umbruch von mir finden, der heißt Amtliche Coronafakten, dort haben Sie jeweils einen amtlichen Link zu jeder dieser Behauptung.
Zusammenfassend, Klinisch in Bezug auf echte Krankheiten und Todesfälle gab es nichts Besonderes. Es war alles normal. Das sind Fakten und das ist der wichtigste Punkt. Die Vorstellung einer Pandemie ergab sich ausschließlich aus neuartigen, Anlasslosen Massentests, deren Ergebnisse enorm schwanken und dem Publikum vorgaukelten, es gäbe mehr Kranke und Tote Sonst, was nicht stimmte. Mit einem PCR Test auf Rhinoviren hätte man dieselbe Illusion erzeugen können Und das könnte man momentan auch, wenn man es wollte.
Wie hat die Politik auf diese klinische Normallage reagiert? Sie schloss Kitas, Schulen, Geschäfte, Kirchen und Betriebe monatelang, ließ Alte isolieren und einsam sterben, Zerstörte Existenz. Die Polizei verbot das Buchlesen auf einer Parkbank, machte Jagd Auf Jugendliche im Freien und auf Kinder im Schnee prügelte friedliche Demonstranten nieder. Die Politik grenzte jeden aus, der nach dem Sinn der Maßnahmen fragte, sie ließ das ZDF verkünden, Kinder glichen virenübertragenen Ratten und Ungeimpfte seien Blinddärmer, die nicht zum Volkskörper gehörten. Eine Sprache, wie wir sie seit fünfundsiebzig Jahren nicht mehr kannten.
Gewöhnlich wird die Macht der Regierung begrenzt durch Gerichte, Medien und Wissenschaft. Diesmal haben Sie alle versagt. Gerichte prüften die Verhältnismäßigkeit nicht und glaubten nur zwei Zeugen bis heute, nämlich dem RKI und PEI. Auf diese Weise konnte sich die Regierung die Notwendigkeit von Lockdowns und Impffichten selbst bescheinigen, Weil RKI und p I weisungsgebundene Behörden sind. Darüber hinaus schickten die Ärzte, schickten die Gerichte Ärzte, Die ihrem Ethos folgten und Patienten durch Bescheinigung vor Eingriffen in die körperliche Unversehrtheit schützen, ins Gefängnis.
Fast jeder bekannte Maßnahmenkritiker wurde kriminalisiert, suspendiert, entlassen, festgenommen Oder einer Hausdurchsuchung unterzogen. Und Karlsruhe ließ zynisch verlauten, die Grundrechte der Bürger seien nicht weg, Dürften aber nicht mehr ausgeübt werden. Medien verlasen bis zum Überdruss Testzahlen, Ohne zu erwähnen, dass die klinische Lage normal war. Sie folgten dem PCR Narrativ, stilisierten Professor Puschel, der weltweit als erster obduzierte zum Rassisten, Professor Bhakti zum Antisemiten Und buchstäblich jeden, der die Maßnahmen hinterfragte zum Verschwörungstheoretiker und Staatsfeind. Fachwissenschaftler, und das ist für mich der interessanteste Punkt, vor allem Epidemiologen und Ärzte für öffentliche Gesundheit Verschwanden von der Bildfläche.
An Ihrer Stelle traten Physiker, Verkehrsplaner, Mikrobiologen und Militärs, die das Publikum mit immer neuen Fehlprognosen und Modellrechnungen in Atem hielten, Monatelang, jahrelang. Eine Aufarbeitung dieser Ereignisse sollte drei Fragen klären nach meiner Ansicht. Erstens, laut Lehrbuch muss die Regierung zu Beginn einer wirklich gefährlichen Pandemie die Bevölkerung beruhigen, Folgeschäden zu vermeiden. Warum ließ die Politik stattdessen ein Schockpapier schreiben, Dass etwa Kindern Angst machte, ihre Großeltern durch Ersticken zu töten. Warum saß in dieser Schockpapierkommission kein einziger Arzt, wohl aber ein Soziologe und Deutschlehrer.
Warum befeuerte die Politik diese Panikmache jahrelang, Während sie jetzt behauptet, nur anfangs und aus Unkenntnis einige Fehler gemacht zu haben. Zweitens, Im Februar zwanzig zwanzig rieten Lehrbücher und WHO Richtlinien von Maßnahmen wie Lockdowns und Schulschließungen ab. Das RKI verkündete damals, Masken würden nichts bringen und Corona sei meist mild, was auch stimmte. Dies betonte auch Herr Drosten in Interviews. Derselbe Herr Drosten erklärte dem heutigen Bundeskanzler Olaf Scholz in einer Talkshow, Man würde die Pandemie ohne den PCR Test gar nicht bemerken.
Was ebenfalls stimmt. Was führte nun im März zwanzig zwanzig zur diametralen Kehrtwende, obwohl Daten schon zu diesem Zeitpunkt zeigten, Dass keine besondere Gefahr bestand. Weil das masken- und lockdownfreie Schweden als Vorbild Dienen konnte, muss man überdies fragen, ob die Maßnahmen wirklich Ansteckungen verhindern sollten, Was Sie offensichtlich nicht taten oder vielmehr dem Ziel dienten, den Impfwiderstand der Bevölkerung zu brechen. Drittens und letztens, warum hat die Politik die Verabreichung eines experimentellen Impfstoffs nicht nur erlaubt, Sondern die Menschen durch zwei g, drei g und sektorale Impffichten faktisch gezwungen, den Stoff zu nehmen. Warum gab es Notzulassungen ohne Not?
Warum haben unzählige Impfschäden keine Konsequenzen? Derzeit, und damit komm ich zum Schluss, erscheinen Bestseller mit deutlichen Titeln, die eine verbreitete Stimmung widerspiegeln. Die Intensivmafia von Tom Lausen, das Staatsverbrechen von Doktor Frank Oder die Coronaverschwörung von Frau Doktor Röhrig. Alle mit satt fünfstelligen Auflagen. Wer sich als Politiker diesen Diskurs verweigert, verliert Vertrauen und entfernt sich von der Wählerschaft.
Aufgrund der ungeheuren Dimensionen dessen, was der Bevölkerung widerfahren ist, wäre ein Untersuchungsausschuss richtig gewesen. Weil der Bundestag Ihnen nicht wollte, bin ich dankbar, dass wir heute in diesem Rahmen zur Aufklärung beitragen können. Vielen Dank.
@OdessaOrlewicz - Odessa Orlewicz
Pro Covid Vaccine Austrian doctor Changes Her Mind Big Time About The Covid Shots Based On What's Been Happening To Her Patients. She Comes Clean Here: https://t.co/zQEUSRrQyi
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In my practice, we have administered around three to four thousand vaccinations. Initially, we didn't see many side effects, but they gradually increased throughout the year. More and more people started experiencing post-vaccination symptoms such as heart rhythm disorders, extreme fatigue, persistent muscle pain, and nerve inflammation. We formed groups of doctors who also administer vaccines, and they observed the same issues in their patients. However, discussing these concerns was difficult, as it was dismissed as a psychological overreaction. It was shocking to find that scientific discourse on the matter was not allowed. The increasing number of patients created an internal conflict for me and many other doctors who genuinely want the best for their patients. One case that stood out was a sixteen-year-old boy who developed nausea and chest pain forty-eight hours after the second dose. His EKG showed significant abnormalities, and he was diagnosed with severe myocarditis and heart swelling. Thankfully, he recovered, but this made me pause and reflect, especially when other people, including parents, expressed uncertainty and entrusted their lives to us. This trust carries a tremendous responsibility to be honest. Whether we have seen a particular case once or ten times, the connection to the vaccine remains uncertain. Until proven otherwise, we must inform people about what we observe and the experiences we have. This right belongs to individuals when they decide to undergo any form of physical intervention, no matter how small. It became an internal conflict for me because there was immense societal pressure to vaccinate as many people as possible across all age groups, while my personal experience as a doctor showed that it is not without side effects. That was the moment when I realized I couldn't continue vaccinating because I had to stay true to the truth and honor that trust. We have had around three to four hundred people come to us with post-vaccination symptoms. I have seen approximately sixty to eighty EKGs that showed clear abnormalities or rhythm disorders in previously young and healthy individuals. I have also seen a similar number of imaging results.
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Speaker 0: Ja, wir haben in meiner Ordination so etwa drei- bis viertausend Impfungen durchgeführt. Und so wenig Nebenwirkungen wir zu Beginn gesehen haben, so wurde das langsam mehr im Verlauf des Jahres. Die ersten Fälle nimmt man vielleicht nicht so wahr oder tut sie als Einzelfall ab. Möglicherweise auch als psychische Überreaktion. Gegen Ende des Jahres wurde das mehr.
Es kamen dann immer mehr Menschen mit vermeintlichen Beschwerden nach der Impfung und da stellt man dann die eigene Wahrnehmung schon ein bisschen infrage. Und es war auch schwierig, darüber zu diskutieren. Und wir haben dann im Laufe des Herbstes zweitausendeinundzwanzig durchaus auch Gruppen gegründet von Ärzten, die ebenfalls impfen. Und dann stellt man fest, die nehmen in ihrem Patientenklientel das Gleiche wahr. Die Menschen schildern die gleichen Beschwerden wie Herzrhythmusstörungen, wahnsinnige Müdigkeit, anhaltende Muskelschmerzen, Nervenentzündungen.
Das wurde dann langsam reproduzierbar. Und dann versucht man natürlich auch, den wissenschaftlichen Diskurs besuchen. Und das war für mich dann schockierend, dass das nicht möglich war. Es wurde abgetan. Es war eigentlich eine absolut dogmatische und sichere und felsenfeste Aussage, das ist nicht von der Impfung.
Und je mehr Patienten kamen, umso größer wurde auch der innere Konflikt bei mir und bei vielen Ärzten, die eigentlich das Beste wollen für ihre Patienten. Ein eindrucksvoller oder erste Fall war ein sechzehnjähriger Bursche, der achtundvierzig Stunden nach dem zweiten Stich mit Übelkeit und dem Brustkorb bei uns ankam und ich hab eine EKG geschrieben und diese EKG eindrucksvoll verändert. Also nicht normal für einen Sechzehnjährigen. Wir haben ihn dann ins Krankenhaus geschickt und dort wurde eine massive Herzmuskelentzündung und Schwellung des Herzens festgestellt. Er ist Gott sei Dank wieder gesund geworden, aber das war der Moment, wo ich wirklich innegehalten habe, weil zeitgleich kommen Menschen, mit ihren Kindern, junge Menschen und die haben wörtlich sehr oft den Satz gesagt, ich weiß nicht, was richtig ist.
Ich lege mein Leben in ihre Hände. Und diese Mächtigkeit des Vertrauens induziert für mich persönlich eine enorme Verantwortung, ehrlich zu sein. Und es macht keinen Unterschied, ob man diesen Fall einmal gesehen hat oder zehnmal das Risiko besteht. Der Zusammenhang ist vakant. Bis das Gegenteil bewiesen ist, müssen wir eigentlich die Menschen auch darüber aufklären, was wir sehen, welche Erfahrungen wir machen.
Dieses Recht hat ein Mensch, wenn er sich für einen körperlichen Eingriff, auch wenn er noch so klein ist, entscheidet. Und das war für mich ein innerer Konflikt, weil der gesellschaftliche Zwang, möglichst alle Menschen zu impfen, alle Altersgruppen zu impfen, sehr groß war. Und auf der anderen Seite die persönliche Erfahrung als Arzt zugenommen hat, dass das eben nicht nebenwirkungsfrei geht. Und das war der Moment, wo ich mir gedacht habe, ich kann hier nicht weiter impfen, weil ich muss bei der Wahrheit bleiben. Ich muss diesem Vertrauen gerecht werden.
Wir haben sicher drei bis vierhundert Menschen gehabt, die uns aufgesucht haben mit dem Gefühl, sie haben seit der Impfung Beschwerden. Ich habe etwa sechzig bis achtzig EKGs, die bei vorher jungen gesunden Menschen eindeutige Veränderungen oder Rhythmusstörungen gezeigt haben. Und ich habe auch circa so viele eingemälde.
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Bonnie's lawyer discussed a chart comparing COVID-related deaths from 2022 to present, including 7-day rolling averages. The chart caused confusion between deaths directly caused by COVID and all-cause deaths. The BC CDC advises against comparing different time periods due to differing definitions. The judge's response remains unclear.
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20) Bonnie's lawyer talks about a chart talking about if a death is attributable to covid. 2022 to present and 7 day rolling averages. Deaths is defined as an individual dying of any cause. There was a mix up between died of covid and all cause deaths in interpretation of charts. BC CDC says don't compare time periods as diff definition. I am unclear if this helps or hurts her cause. Judges voice is muffles so I don't know what he said after that.
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The judge overlooks reputable studies contradicting Bonnie's expert. Petitioner's lawyer argues using limited studies. Other provinces' real-time data shows unvaccinated workers aren't causing outbreaks, which Bonnie fears. The hearing lacks a comprehensive discussion on this.
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34) The saddest part about this whole hearing is that the judge hasn't looked at the thousands of reputable studies stating the opposite of what Emerson (Bonnie's "expert" ) states in HIS chosen referenced studies. The petitioners lawyer has to stick to the few Emerson/Bonnie referenced studies to argue their case for the sake of the judicial review. No one is even mentioning the other provinces real time info that the "unvaxxed workers" are not causing outbreaks. The outbreaks Bonnie keeps saying she is worried about happening if she lets the "unvaxxed" come back.
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In a recent interview, Mahmoud Mourra revealed that two Canadian politicians attempted to bribe him, using taxpayer money through a "project" grant, to divert his focus from his parental rights mission. They also tried to sway him away from the political party he supports. Full episode link in comments.
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Here is a short clip from a longer 20 minute interview I just did with Mahmoud Mourra wherein he says 2 current Canadian politicians tried to bribe him away from his parental rights mission. He says they were willing to use taxpayer money to do it through a "project" grant. The full episode is in the comments. He also explains they tried to persuade him AWAY from a political party he is socially promoting.
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The speaker believes that something suspicious is happening behind the scenes, but is unsure of the details. They feel that the Canadian government is not protecting its citizens and is prioritizing other countries over its own people. Speaker 1 asks about the possibility of receiving funding through a grant, and the speaker confirms that they were offered up to $1,000,000 for a project. The speaker expresses concern about the government's intentions and emphasizes the need to protect Canadian values and principles. They also mention the influence of left-wing ideologies in schools and universities. The speaker concludes by urging everyone to stand up for freedom and for the country. Speaker 1 comments on the ease with which the grant was offered and the subsequent threats made when the speaker questioned their intentions.
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Speaker 0: But, yes, I do believe, there's something going on behind the stage. I don't know what it is. And the offer came to my plate. Could come to anyone's plate. Noah, if you play devil, you pray evil.
You could sell your principle. You could sell your values, and I do believe something happened and, something something. What is it? I don't know because I don't believe in coincidence. Something caused us to to to to to face this challenge.
And I believe this government is not doing the job supposed to do to protect its citizen because the prime minister of Canada is a prime minister for everybody except us Canadian.
Speaker 1: Okay. And just because everyone's gonna be asking so many questions, and I appreciate what you just said, They said pretty much so they said, just find a project. Like, if you give us a project, We'll fund it. Did you say on the phone to me they could do it through a grant? So as long as you find something so as long as you give them a project, They can give you up to $1,000,000
Speaker 0: Well, up to a1000000, from 0 to a1000000, just name the project you want, give us something to give you money. So if I tell them I wanna go up at strip club, school, whatever maybe. I don't know. I don't know. They they have their own way around thing.
They are the governments. They could they could find ruling. They could do many thing, man, as they've done it. And I could tell you one thing. There's some Veteran Canadian dying from hunger while they're sending money to Ukraine over $8,000,000,000 with all respect to Ukrainian.
While we have immigrant and refugee inside our country, they're bringing Afghani, Syrian, and so on, there's issue. There's a big issue. Again
Speaker 1: Oops.
Speaker 0: Sorry about
Speaker 1: that. That's okay. So, basically, what what they're saying is we can use Canadian taxpayer money. Mahmood, we want you to, like, stop what you're doing and, hey, we can give you up to $1,000,000 through a grant. No big deal.
And when you said, are you trying to bribe me? They're like, no. No. No. Right?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Absolutely. That's what they said. No. It's just a project.
Funded project, right, the government funding funded the program, and we help not just you, many others. And this is could be done under this recent government because we have the ability to do it. So we don't know if the next government comes in place, you will lose a chance. So, technically, that's exactly what they told me. And, honestly, I was took off guard.
Usually, I am recording. I take note and stuff. I wasn't expecting this. I didn't even know we're coming to this. And like I told you, there's some devils and evil out there playing games, and we are paying the price.
And we need to stand and hold our ground To protect this country, to protect our values, to protect our principle, and most and main important thing, we need To win, the hidden war taking place into our kids' classroom, into our kids' school because that dark left, the devil's Trying to do every way, every possible way to get into our kids. You and I were talking in the front line about protecting some some of the principal and the values, And but they're going into Arkansas school and to our university student and poisoned their mind, and that's why we will lose if we don't stand up and hold our ground to protect The freedom we once have in this country for every brother and sister, doesn't matter what you believe, god is 3, god is 1, aced Jewish, Canadian not can whatever Canadian aced whatever you call yourself, you need to stand for the freedom because freedom taste the same for everybody. There's no different taste for freedom. You could fool yourself, and I believe for every dog there's a master. There's a lot of them been out there, But the free people, they don't put their neck into someone's house, call her, and let them guide them and take them any in any way they want them to go.
Free person will stand for what you believe, and I believe we stand for our kid. We'll stand for this country, and god bless Canada.
Speaker 1: It's interesting how they you they offered you so, like, easily, you know, a grant for a project. And then as soon as you said, are you bribing me and you didn't take the They they quickly turned on you. That's very interesting. And then start threatening you
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Interview With Mahmoud Mourra Who Says He Was Recently Offered A Bribe To Stop His Parents Rights Mission In Canada.
Calgary Parental Rights leader Mahmoud Mourra explains that he was offered a bribe recently by using taxpayer money to do it through a "project" grant. He said they threatened him when he wouldn't take the bait. He also explains they tried to persuade him AWAY from a political party he is socially promoting.
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CUPE Local 3906's controversial post, which garnered 3.5 million views, has been removed. Parents, representing diverse religious backgrounds, are rallying against explicit content in schools and teachers discussing numerous genders. Their unity in Canada is stronger than ever, much to the dismay of CUPE, potentially influenced by Marxism.
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The infamous post below (that I screenshot) that CUPE Local 3906 put up that resulted in the trending word "disgusting" with 3.5 million views is now REMOVED. Oh to be a fly on the wall during that spanking. The peaceful and religiously diverse parents who are marching again Oct 21 against the p0rn in schools and marching against the teachers who are telling the tiny ones they need to choose between 10,000 genders have had a meeting and they are MORE UNITED THAN EVER IN CANADA. I'm sure Marxist infiltrated CUPE will be annoyed to hear that :)
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A nice fellow Canadian transcribed it.
The Meeting OFL Tried to Hide
Planning to thwart Sept 20 Parent Protests
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OK. No problem. It has just been released to 80 independent outlets as well. This is not illegal. I checked.
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The Ontario Federation of Labour recently held a meeting to discuss organizing counter protests against anti-2SLGBTQIA+ events in Canada. The meeting emphasized the importance of allies coming together to fight against hate and protect marginalized communities. Attendees from various labor councils and organizations shared their experiences and plans for mobilizing against hate groups. Concrete steps and resources were shared to ensure safe and effective demonstrations, including guidelines for organizing counter protests. A rally at Queen's Park on the 20th was announced, with the goal of overwhelming hate groups with numbers and promoting positive messaging. The focus is on building solidarity and continuing the fight against hate beyond the event. Financial support for logistics and crisis helplines specific to the trans, queer, and indigenous communities were also discussed. The meeting concluded with a call for a province-wide and national network to support ongoing resistance against fascism and bigotry.
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Speaker 0: There's more in
Speaker 1: the waiting room, Rob. K.
Speaker 2: Just bear with us as we let, folks onboard.
Speaker 3: Excellent day to have allies together for a very important conversation. Thank you everyone for joining us this morning. My name is Rob Helpin. I'm the executive director at the Ontario Federation of Labour. We're, We're gonna get started here momentarily.
We've got a pretty full agenda as well, to discuss today, of course, about our, Organizing around the counter protests for these events that are occurring on September 20th and and a few days thereafter, quite frankly, as well. As you may have seen in the, In the, the the communication that we, we sent out. I'm going to ask folks if you're okay, and we won't be sharing this publicly. This is just for our benefit In case we need to take minutes of some of the details that are discussed today, I'd like to record this. Again, we will not be sharing that recording externally.
And as soon as we're done with the minutes, we'll be, erasing that. So if everyone's okay with that, I'm gonna go ahead and press record Again, for the benefit of our support staff and and taking notes.
Speaker 0: Recording in progress.
Speaker 2: So, Okay. Bear with me here.
Speaker 3: Let me see if we get more folks in this room. Great turnout. Okay. So, let's get started. We have circled an agenda around.
I'm going to ask One of our, my colleagues from the OFL here to put that agenda into the chat so that folks can see it upfront. But to kick us off, I'm going to turn it over to OFL president Patty Coats for a welcome and, a land acknowledgment. Patty?
Speaker 1: Thanks, Rob. I want to thank everyone, for being here on such short notice. As you saw from our, memo that we sent out, there's a number of, protest Events that are taking place all across Canada. We can't just let this, be idle. We need to be able to organize.
We need to connect our communities, in Ontario, from what I know, there's approximately 22, different, events that are taking place and there could be more now. But as, as allies and those that protect, Workers' rights protect our kids' rights, and the rights of trans and our 2SLGBTQ plus community. We felt it very important that we do come together to fight against the rise of hate. And we're seeing it in province across province across province. We're seeing it now.
And our education system with our premier, and education, minister has put forward with regards to, The obligations of, of teachers and school boards, educators, and school boards. And so that's why we're Here, we're trying to, to connect with all of you to talk about what's happening in our communities and what we can do as allies and supporters, to fight against the hate, within our communities. So, with that, I'm going to, go to, to the land acknowledgement. And then I will pass it back so we can, start, our conversations. Today, because we are joining this meeting places across indigenous territory.
I'd like to begin this acknowledgement by honoring the lands each of us are on, which has been the site of human activities since time immemorial. It is the traditional territory of First Nations, Metis, and Inuit peoples from across Turtle Island. I'm attending this meeting from Innisfil in the community of Alcona, which is the traditional land of the Anishinaabe people. The Anishinaabe include the Ojibwe, Ottawa, and pot Potawatomi Nations, collectively known as the Council of 3 Fires. Please share in the chat, the indigenous territories that you are joining this meeting from.
But as we gather here today, these nations continue to experience ongoing colonialization and displacement where land acknowledgments are offered in place of land South. This territory is part of the Dish With 1 Spoon Wampum, a treaty made between the Anishinaabe, Mississaugas and the Haudenosaunee where nations entered into an agreement to protect the land and responsibly care for its resources in harmony together. And I think, You know, that's all very fitting because we all need to be working in harmony as we move forward. And as we know, No. Our indigenous indigenous, peoples are have been, have been oppressed for, years years, millennium, you know, in time.
And we're seeing that oppression again with Two spirited, people with our 2SLGBTQ, communities. So coming together, at a meeting like this, I think, is It's very important. And, we're very appreciative of the treaties that are on our lands, the treaties that we should all be following, and that we all become, stewards of our land. So with that, I'm going to pass it over Back over to Rob, and we'll, start working on our agenda. So thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Patty. Yeah. So the agenda has been identified in the chat. We're going to have a bit of an overview here, a bit of a 2 part overview. 1st, I'd like to get an update.
I'm going to call on Director of Women's Rights, Chandra Lee Paul from the Ontario Federation of Labor, to speak to item number 2, a little why and why Are these anti-2SLGBTQIA plus protests happening? And then we're also going to get an update from Vicki Smallman, who is joining us as well, regarding some of the work that's been happening at the CLC emergency task force On anti two s LGBTQIA plus hate. So, Shawnee, can I kick it over to you for a bit of an an update of of why This is happening and where this is happening?
Speaker 4: Hi, folks. As Rob said, my name is Kimberly Paul, otherwise known as Shawnee. Hi. Welcome to user one. My friend answers to her.
And, this is scary. I'll be honest with you is a is a, member who is a out crowd queer individual and activist who's been doing this work for Geez. Over 30 years now. It is in my experience, my personal experience, the first of this time that I've seen here in Canada of this super broadly and coordinated, case right across the country of this time. It we are seeing a, set of protests that are all being done simultaneously.
They're all being set for 9 AM in each of their time zones, in every single province of this country in multiple cities of these provinces. And it is really scary. It is extremely similar, as to what has been happening in the US, and we are very, very worried about What could be coming next? I am Zooming in from Tkaronto, otherwise known as Toronto. The place in the water where the trees are standing, and, I'm I'm extremely worried about what's been popping.
And so what what we're is, a a, far right extreme response to, inclusive education, teachings that have anything to do with the 2SLGBTQI community, for the heavy response, in particular, The trans education, anything to do with that, in the schools and, You know, indoctrinating children, you know, in regards to anything to do with, you know, how queer information fair, right, or rainbow community, All various ways that we wanna, you know, reference, anything other than what the the far right, sees And so we are, wanting to show a very strong response, countering these protests to show that, you know, they even think that there's a possibility of bringing what's happening in other places Here, we're going to be there to counteract every single, step of the way. We want to show a very heavy love is what we have here. There is no space in Canada, in particular, you know, in in Ontario as this is what this group is here to discuss. And so what we see is that they, have coordinated, a rallies at legislatures, for 9 AM in each time zone across the country. And so, and then following up with 11 AM marches after those rallies.
And so what we understand, what we sort of see, the way they coordinated that, is that they plan to capture the media cycle Throughout the entire day right across the country. So they start in the Far East at, you know, 9 o'clock in the morning. And then As, you know, 9 o'clock gets spread across the country, they'll be capturing those media cycles, those new cycles right across to the other side of the country, which is, extremely worrisome. We wanna make sure that our messaging of no space for hate, of love, inclusion, diversity is, you know, what that messaging should be. We don't want them to get into those news feeds and capturing the, the, you know, the negative Aspects into those weeks, we want to be gathering those as much as possible.
And so we, we certainly, want to make sure that we are Safe in what we're doing, and that's what this discussion is here today. We want to hear from you what we you know, how we can help. Nobody is gonna be left alone. We wanna make sure that we're all being safe in this response. And we understand that there are many, many people on this call that have a lot of Experience in dealing with this type of thing that can help us keep each other safe and be strong in the response that we're, they're doing as well to these, to these hate mongers, really.
And so, what I'd like to do is we're we will share, back and with each other where we know protests are happening. As Patty said, we see, approximately 22 Rob. Cities in Ontario alone that have protests that are already set. That list keeps growing and growing from what we can see. A little later on, we can share, the the, you know, the the list of cities that we see so far.
And then if we're missing any, you can help us know where those are. But, it's, it's important, and I'm really happy to see that everybody that's here on this call is here. And we're we're looking to work with each other to to do this. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually, bring Vicky Smallman on to speak now. Vicky Smallman is the director of human rights at the Canadian Labor Congress, and she, is one of the leads on the CLC's emergency Task force on anti-two s LGBTQIA plus 8.
And, Vicky is going to give us a bit of an update, what's happening, Canada wide to the, yeah, the, yeah, the national perspective. Vicki. Thank you so much for being with us here today, and
Speaker 0: I'll throw it over to you now.
Speaker 5: Thanks. So just to give folks a bit of a background introduction, I'm Vicky Smallman. I'm the director of human rights at Canadian Labor Congress. And we sort of, are responsible for policy and campaigning, coalition building, on the full sort of spectrum of of human rights. And we are, sort of actioning the CLC resolution That was passed at our convention.
There was an emergency resolution passed on the floor thanks to the efforts of the, 2SLGBTI Workers Caucus, and allies. And it's basically and I will just quickly read it so folks have The context, that the CLC will encourage and support affiliates to condemn attacks against workers, Families and communities that support and defend trans drag into as LGBTQI plus events. Create flying squads To, that's b. So we will encourage and support affiliates to create flying squads to provide meaningful support to workers, organizations, and communities facing attacks and, 2, call for an emergency task force to develop a guide outlining health and safety tools for affiliates To ensure the safety of workers where events occur. So we formed, established the task force in June.
There's been 3 meetings, so far. The focus has primarily been on kind of getting the lay of the land and information sharing to find out Sort of where things are taking place, who might be, sort of forming the, in the process of formally forming flying squads or joining established local networks who have been doing this work for some time to sort of bolster and provide capacity and, Support and resources to ongoing, countering activities. And and we've been focused on, creating this health and safety guide. It's not ready. I wish it were.
The timing of this is terrible because it would be really nice to have this guide out now, but it's, it won't be ready for a few more weeks. It's, there's a draft that's been out to the task force members for comment, and we hope to have it to you soon. In the meantime, the CLC has been and the guide is really focused on Addressing the way that 2 s LGBTI hate shows up at work. So not so much responding to A specific moment in time like right now, which is much more of a fluid situation. I mean, really, organizing Against this particular effort is like organizing against jello because the the anti, hate crap or the anti 2 s LGBTI crowd.
The very there's various camps and groups that are sort of uniting and collaborating under one banner. Many of them, you know, we don't know for sure if a protest is happening or not happening, who's behind it and so on. A lot of that intelligence, A lot of that work really needs to happen at the grassroots local level, right, which many of you already know. So we're trying to find ways to bolster give additional capacity, and encouraging our affiliates and our labor councils to connect with local activists that that may already be doing the work to see how they can help create their own, infrastructures. And what it's gonna look like is really different depending on each Affiliate, each Labour Council, each community.
So that is kind of happening. In the meantime, we've also launched a digital campaign Called Workers United Against Hate, and have been sort of putting stuff out, through the summer, through pride the sort of tail end of pride season. And, all of our affiliates and local labor councils received package of graphics, talking points, and that type of thing. For these events that are happening, because they really are like, the whole issue has sort of evolved from drag story time to really target these, These inclusive education policies, and, and the parental rights rhetoric has sort of come to the fore. And, and that and the disturbing thing I have to say about all of this is while it's really easy just sort of say, well, these are fringe voices.
These are, you know, the the convoy, you know, writ large, etcetera. All of it is being validated and platformed and echoed by provincial governments and by the Federal party, right, which offers a bit of a legitimacy. And they have decided that it is politically Expedient to essentially throw trans kids, families, queer families, queer people, queer workers, kids Under the bus in order to win votes. I mean, we see in Manitoba right now actual bus ads from conservative candidates because They're in a provincial, election using parents' rights rhetoric as the hook. It's really crappy.
Right? So, so now we are really trying to, to to find effective ways to counter it. We will be sending out some more talking points, and so on. But, so that's where we're at. You know, it's we're trying to on a day to day basis to this very rapidly changing, landscape.
A memo will be going out the CLC to affiliates and labor councils about next week's demos hopefully today, encouraging, folks to connect with local organizers to Try and, ensure that there is a visible sort of presence, in the communities where these events are taking place. And, really, I think that Shawnee's point about, trying to flip the script, on the rhetoric is really, really important, and not let them set the agenda. We need to let Folks know that, you know, that 2 s LGBTI rights are important and central to the work that the labor movement does. This is about solidarity in action. We need to, express sort of love, care, and support for, trans and queer kids and workers and communities, and and Send a really strong message that there's that hate has no place in our communities or our workplaces or our unions, period.
And, hopefully, we'll see Ryle. That's sort of, a wave of love and support and care on that day. Happy to answer any questions, but I'm sure stuff will happen during the discussion. Thanks, everybody.
Speaker 6: Great.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Vicki. So so I just want to acknowledge, folks. I'm attempting to get these captions turned on. It's as the host here, it's showing me that they are in fact enabled. But, obviously, I'm seeing none of them, so I may actually try and move out of this meeting myself as the hosts come back in.
I've got other cohosts here as well and hoping hoping that might reengage that feature. My apologies for that technical problem. At this point, we're going to turn it over to item 3 while I attempt to do that. And I'm gonna welcome into the conversation Yolanda Bedesi, the OFL's Director of Human Rights. Yolanda, if you're able to come on screen and start talking about item 3 of our agenda getting organized, why we are mobilizing for this fight, some local, toolkits that we put together for local counter protests, and then we're gonna get into a more fulsome discussion about, where we can organize these counter protests and what information we know.
So I'll turn it over to Yolanda, and Shawnee may be jumping in here as well. Yolanda?
Speaker 0: Thank you, Rob. And the captions are now on. I'm not sure what happened, but they're on. Excellent. Thank you.
Good morning. As Rob said, my name is Yolanda Boudesi. My pronouns are She, her, and Al. And as you heard, I'm the director of human rights here at the OFL. As Vicky and Shawnee and Rob and Patty have said, it is More important now than ever to organize around these issues.
In getting a rapid response team in your area. What we are saying is that in many people have, in this effort, attempted to contact Rob. Members of the 2SLGBTQIA plus community. And one thing that we have noted is that this is not a fight for that community. This is definitely a fight for allies.
And when we say allies, this is not a situation where we're all going to be retweeting. This is a situation where, as my Colleague Felicia says we need to be as allies, we need to be coconspirators. We need to be in the effort in such a way that when the rocks are hitting these communities, that they're hitting us. And if, as allies, we are in such a distance that we are standing by and watching them, we are not really there. And we need to be in a situation where when something like this happens, we, as communities, as allies, as supporters, are able to organize and mobilize quickly in a way that we know at any time, when anything is called, that we have these systems.
Not just for the 2SLGBTQIA plus community, for any Islamic or anti Islamic or anti Muslim sentiments, for anti black, anti Semitism, Anti women, we need to be there. We need to have these in our communities, in our workplaces, in our locals so that we are able to move quickly. And, as labor, this is what we do. We organize. We know where our members are.
We know who's able to come out there. But this is a situation where we have an opportunity Talk to our members. Have those 1 on 1 conversations. Know who is where and well placed. Know what's happening in our communities that isn't Labor.
Know what other organizations are already doing this. No. But having members in the community there to speak about what their needs are. We have created a PowerPoint, and I'm not sure who's going to be sharing this, through some steps. Because as people have said, we need to be able to do this we need to do this counterprotest and our own protest in a way that is, systematic that is organized, that is ready to go in moments notice, and that is safe.
So if somebody can share the PowerPoint, please. It's definitely not going to be me. And we will walk through some of the steps. Our main questions are though, do you know what is happening in your area? Do you know that this is happening?
Do you have that information? Are you able to join a counterprotest authority happening? Or are you able to and and for some of us, this is what's going to have to happen to organize, To anchor an event. To get people out there. To mobilize.
To amplify the message so that we have as many people there as possible. Those of you who, unlike, Unfortunately, I have gone to the website and have seen how much hatred there is. But it's not as organized as they might think. We can see that it's very much a cut and paste Email type of organization. We need to be able to respond to that in a much better way.
So thank you. That's the first slide. We're saying enough is enough to hate. So second slide, please. As you've heard, this is a mass nationwide coordinated protest.
We see who they're targeting and What they're doing, which is the insidious way, is that they're saying that they are protecting children. And we know that, far from protecting children, this is actually an attack on children and on communities. Next slide, please. So as we are saying, as allies, we used to come together and say enough is enough. We're not going to tolerate the hate, the intolerance or the indoctrination.
Any form in any camp. We're going to organize and we're going to have rapid response teams ready to combat this hate. And we all need to be coconspirators in the community to stand up for this group, especially this time on 20th, but all oppressed groups. Next, please. We need to make sure that, in these attempts, that we're confronting the hate groups, We're organizing and mobilizing.
So we're transforming quickly. What is, someone said we are used to The type of hate and rhetoric that we see coming from the United States. What is unique about this is that it's now being under the guise of being led by parents. It's being met by the guys of being led by religious faith, and some sort of ethnic communities. And we need to be very sure that we Make sure the power of response is based on the hate and not on the people.
And it's a very easy way to divide many diverse communities Rob. By pitting us against each other. But within Labour, within progressive movements, we need to know. We know about intersectionality. And we know that hate can come in many forms.
There's a lot of ignorance. And So we need to make sure that our message is targeted towards the message as opposed to the people who are saying it. Because in that way, we're we're not going to fall Pray to their usual ways of bigotry. Next slide, please. So what we're asking you to do It's to make sure that you're able to plan this protest.
It's very easy steps. We're sharing information with our network. We're confirming attendance. One thing that we do really well in in labor is that we we we mobilize really well, but we don't organize. So we need to make sure that we know Who is coming?
Who will be there? Who is leading it? Before the event, make signs and posters whether you do it together, come together and do it, or have people do it With slogans that, again, are targeted at the message of anti hate and not at the groups of people who are promoting it. That we communicate these details with our groups. Very importantly is that we arrive 30 minutes before, at least, their planned protest.
So that we are occupying the space. That it becomes our message. And that we are then establishing ourselves. So we are not going into their protest. That we are already there.
We have established ourselves. Make sure that you have a megaphone, mic, music, flags, posters, banners, tranches. We know we know how to do that. And that use that opportunity to speak with People to spread the real message. Have a petition ready there.
Have clipboards. Have pens so that you can speak with people, get their information. So that your rapid response team It's going to be a team that you can call at any time. And it's gonna be growing. Next slide, please.
I'm not sure if it's going to be me who's speaking about this. I might pass it off all to Deshaunee. But we have resources that, the OFL has prepared for in general about protests. But specifically for this one, just some very basic things. And we're gonna put some links in the chat to some for some resources.
So make sure that when you're there, you're staying safe and staying positive. We don't want this to to devolve, into something that is messy. We know that there's going to be media there. And we need the message To be about a group of progressive workers who have come out in support of this community as opposed to a brawl that ensues with a negative issue. So stay with a buddy.
Don't engage in the conflict. Keep a safe distance. Focus on your positive message. We're gonna respect all the laws. We're gonna try to deescalate wherever possible.
And as I said, what's very important is to take up the space. Take it up physically with the amount of people you have. Take it up with the noise you're using. Take it up with the flags And the signs that you have with these messages of love and positivity. Next slide, please.
Here we have and we're gonna put these links to the sites in the chat. But we have 5 really great resources here, in terms of how you can plan a safe and effective protest or counterprotest. And last slide, please. I believe that is the last slide. The next steps that you're going to do after this, plan a debrief meeting with your group.
Very important for so many reasons. And especially one that is as going to be as, Tara does this one. Give people a chance who may have been triggered, who may have been, physically hurt, emotionally hurt to talk about what happened. What did we see? What did we Learn what can you do better next time.
Make sure that you can maintain this communication with your contact list. Continue to talk to and recruit members to be part of your rapid response team. And I call it a rapid response team. Because for many communities, the idea of a flying squad is in itself a triggering term. So So rapid response, so that's what we want to do.
Respond rapidly and get in there and help people. So be diligent for other hate events that can that you can disrupt with your group. And make sure that we are also joining other counter protests that are planned by other organizations so that we are doing a support and we are all getting together and being disrupting and causing some good trouble. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Excellent. Thank you, thank you, Shawnee. Thank you, Yolanda. And thank you again for your your attention this request. I mean, listen.
We we knew we had to act quickly. This is I I wanna acknowledge too. This is not something that sprung up on us. So we've been monitoring, the rise of, of of hate in this patrol, for quite some time. I wanna give credit, of course, to that are on the phone with us here today who have been, again, reporting back to, through the OFL, initially, the Canadian Labour Congress On the ongoings of these groups in their own communities.
I want to open it up now for the next item on the agenda, Which is, again, a bit of a discussion about where we can, organize counter protests. I do see, that, folks have been putting furiously into The chat where there are counter protests that are taking up, are occurring. That's great news. We're going to we we hit we did send along as well a, a dynamic, I would say, Google spreadsheet that we can constantly and continually update. As more information becomes available to us on where counter protests are being organized, then we'll be filtering this information in.
And we're also setting up at the OFL, a general, RSVP event page So that when we capture, members that are coming across this through our outreach efforts, that we'll be able to segregate that data as well to say that if you're in, for example, London, Here's the event that's happening here in Ottawa, so on and so forth. So I see some hands are starting to get raised. We'll do a bit of a go around right now Speak to some of the events that we know are happening, and our team will be taking note of this, as I said, and updating that, that spreadsheet as we go. So I'm gonna turn it over to Martin Riley. Martin and just, folks, if you are able to, as Martin has done, please raise your hand, in the future, and we will add you to the speakers list.
I'll try my best to keep that as fluid as possible. Go ahead, Mark.
Speaker 7: Hey. Thank you. So I wanted to bring attention to a protest happening, in, Scarborough on the 22nd.
Speaker 2: Oh, I
Speaker 7: think it's of particular importance because it's directly going after kids and going after my fellow education workers up there. It's, being put on sorry. Go on through it. First, I'll give you the details. It's happening at 10:30 AM on the 22nd at Wallingford Road and Cassandra Boulevard.
It's this location is chosen because, both sides of that intersection, there are schools, a Catholic school, and then, I think, Victoria Park. This group has organized protests before, in Ottawa, where I
Speaker 2: believe they got about a
Speaker 7: 100 people out, it was countered by about Double Dot Many, by, Save Canada and Billboard Chris. This has been in the books for, I guess, a couple months now. It was billed as planning to be bigger than that Ottawa one, and I will note that Ottawa one did end up, with some violence. Yeah. So, I I'd highly Recommend we organize in the Toronto area, the GTA, particularly around that, and also see if Toronto York Region Labor Council to organize QP 44100 and the various teachers locals to go out to those schools and get them shut down by the workers there, to ensure that there is no possibility of our people and our kids getting attacked?
And I'll drop a link to that, Rob.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Martin. Great. We're going to have that The Excel sheet, that dynamic, sorry, Google Sheet that I was referring to where we're capturing all of this data, but the link to that will be put to the, into the chat here by my colleague Yolanda. So thank you for
Speaker 6: that information. Emily.
Speaker 8: I have everyone. Thank you so much. So my name is Emily. I am a a, VP at GB 46100 here in Ottawa at, Carleton University, and I'm also a steering committee member of Community Solidarity Ottawa, which has been organizing in Ottawa since the convoy. I would just like to address Couple of points that I heard.
First, I'll go with, with a previous speaker. I was the parent who led the organizing efforts of June 9th on Broadview Avenue in Ottawa with Safe Canada, Josh Alexander, and Bill Burr Chris came. And I have a lot of great information To share and spread about what they did, how they organized, and how we count our numbers were, in fact, a lot bigger than just, A couple hundred. I think we had probably closer to 3 or 400, whereas ashes were indeed violent. And I really would like to, Start sharing that information.
I will also drop in a chat about an article the Canadian Anti Hate Network published that details our, our stories. In terms of Ottawa, we have, just planned a a counter protest, being, starting at 9 AM on pre court of Canada lawns. We show this location because it's just adjacent to ready we're building, and we are not in the business defending the state from fascists. We are in the business of protecting Communities and each other to ensure that the heat does not go out post in the streets. I encourage you to share that.
I'll again drop that in the in the, in the chat for everyone. And I also just wanted to, speak to something that, that Vicky brought up just about the how we're opposing this and what we're up against. And I think as much as it's important to, understand the fact that we are dealing with a very fractured and, difficult to track movement, That they've actually gotten quite a lot better organizing themselves despite all of these internal infighting. One of the reasons why we're having difficulty finding lots of accurate information on March That the organizing is not because they're disorganized. It's because they've gotten better at operational security.
They're doing a lot more things that's tighter and harder to and harder to track. So I just think it's important to kind of keep that in context that they are able to, at this moment, rise above their internal Discord to build a very, very big movement. I also think that I would like to bring attention to the fact that, like, this is absolutely
Speaker 4: crucial that
Speaker 8: we oppose this in the streets. And this is just to kind of build off of other points that other, wonderful labor leaders here have talked about is that, we all know that our workplace issues Stop when we finish work for the day, and we know that society doesn't stop when we walk into work in the morning. And we have to approach this in the we have to Keep that in our minds when we are out there. The fascists are organizing in the streets. I'm a researcher, at Carlson, and my focus is fascism in Canada and the Signs that I've seen that were rising, that this is far more than just, like, a far right transphobic protest.
They are fundamentally racist. They're fundamentally anti Yeah. They are fundamentally queer and transphobic, and it's just a matter of time before they come to us. And the only way the best way that the fascists have been stopped in the last 100 years has been when we unite in massive numbers in the streets. So this requires us to pivot And and start to think about how we can use our inherent strength in a way that we're not used to using.
We're we have to remember that our strength isn't just at the bargaining table. It isn't just when we're on the pickup line. It isn't just when we're trying to get some better benefits for our workers. It's about flexing that with communities. As a member of Community Solidarity Ottawa, I do just wanna, like, plug story.
I'm talking Super rapid fast. I just don't wanna take up everyone's time here. But I do wanna mention that as community as community solidarity Ottawa, we were formed in Convoy with lots of affiliates of labor. And since then, we've seen a massive demobilization post convoy. This is due to the natural siloing that happens amongst us.
We Get busy with bargaining. We get busy with other issues. It's a volunteer organization. But in that time of demobilization, they got better. The fascists got way better at organizing.
So what we need to do is really encourage everyone to reach out to their local organizations With not just statements of solidarity, but, like, actual tangible material things of People coming out. Administrative help to help launch websites. Help people build all those internal structures so we can build a movement rather than just putting out fires because that's what they're doing. So we need to start, catching up a little bit, and we know that we're better than that. We also don't have to worry too much about, putting our members and our comrades in unsafe situations because when we get numbers, we're gonna keep Each other's safe, and we're really good at listening.
And that's something that the other side didn't have, and we saw that on the streets on Broadview in June That they had difficulty kind of remobilizing and being fluid. And so we need to remember that we can we have a the natural solidarity in our hearts so that we can trust and listen to each other and move quickly. So building that trust and testing that trust in the Street is gonna be really great and very excellent skill building. So I really strongly encourage everyone to kind of think about how we can Really kind of think specifically, get to work. I know we're we we always end up in these meetings all the time, but now we've gotta just, like, hit the ground running, Start flooding resources.
Can we loan staff in kind to existing organizations in Toronto or Ottawa or other cities where they exist? Can we loan office resources? Can Can we do printing? All of this stuff is gonna be huge. QP 46100 as well just passed the CLC motion with a $2,000 yearly budget to it, and I strongly encourage everyone to that are doing something like that because that encourages that things actually just get spent.
Money gets out the door, and we have a more, a stronger promise of of support beyond a statement and beyond just, like, the handful of sustained This all the time just showing up to these things. Okay. I'm gonna drop all my links as well as my contact information into the chat, so I strongly encourage everyone And their dog to reach out to me. We can work together on this. We've got a lot of knowledge in this room, and I'm so stoked to see this many people on this call.
So solidarity, everyone.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Emily. Before I go to Peter, which I'll go to next, I just want to advise on what we are going to be releasing here any second now. So I've asked our communications director. I alluded that we'll have a central page where folks can RSVP to take action on September 20th and the the days that follow. That link should be momentarily available, and I will share it in the chat.
But it's gonna be critical That when I do that, that I ask everyone on this call to go immediately to that page and to fill in your information. Why? Because We have folks on this call that aren't, on the executive council that wouldn't have received this call through our normal channels. They've been brought in by their leadership. It's critical that we have your contact information so that we can share resources back with you as well as as more of those, dates and locations and times Or counter protests are established that you're in the know about where that's happening.
So once that link is ready, which will be very soon, I'm gonna ask that everybody on this call, regardless if if you've got this, if you're part of the executive council or not, that you sign in so that we can keep track of who's on the call I share resources with you. Thanks for your patience. Peter.
Speaker 9: Thank you, sisters and brothers and comrades. Peter Voch, from Peterborough The QB Retirees Network and Peterborough District Labor Council. And and thank you for organizing this meeting, And Emily, your comments were brilliant and, hard to follow-up on that. What we've taken your lead in many ways in Peterborough by building a network here. I'm with the Peterborough and the Kawartha's United Against Hate.
We are an anti hate network that's done 8 defenses Of Drag Queen story time, we've been under attack by Safe Canada, by Kevin Goudreau, by, by organized Nazis with Confederate flags. So we have some experience and some knowledge in this also like you do in Ottawa. And and in many ways, you're our inspiration. So again, another thank you for that. We are meeting at 9 AM across from City Hall in September 20th.
To oppose the bigots, we have a poster, it's already in the chat. We're gonna be organized. Couple of of of lessons tonight. I just Yeah. Everything's been said already or will be said, I imagine.
Labor council is crucial. I'm I happen to be on the the labor council here in Peterborough As a retiree, labor councils in Peterborough and Lindsay have taken the lead in this. And that's a an important lesson That goes back to the convoy. When we started in Lindsay, counter picketing the convoy in 2022, We brought out, brother James James Mulhern, a big shout out to to Lindsay Labor Council and also Dave Warda from Peterborough. We brought people out and we started that tradition.
That tradition of resistance. And we said to ourselves, Drag Queen story time taking place at our public library, staffed by our 2 b members is not gonna get shut down. It will not. And it has not. In fact, they've increased the bookings.
That's been their goal to shut it down. We've said no way is that gonna happen. And and and we have been prepared for every single one. Now I just wanna make one big ask here Oh, everybody. And Emily, you've you've hinted at it and so has Rob.
We need a network. We need 1st, the province wide network and a national network. I think we can start and you maybe the NFL can initiate this, but A lot of us are already ready. We're organizing on the ground, we're organizing labor in the LGBTQ plus communities, we're we're organizing I'm going to a climate protest, be making announcement. I I I'll be talking about public health care because if you look at the program, the Ontario party and the new blue party, They want credit card health care.
They want it they want chartered schools or or or or what they call it choice in education. We'd all know what that means. Right? We can see the other attacks. It's all of us under attack.
And I live in a rural area, so I I get this Stuff and I I I can see it. So let's work on more frequent coming together like this And forming a network and exchanging the information. I have a lot to learn from Emily. I'm gonna go right to the chat now Because you guys are fantastic and we wanna build it here in Peterborough because this is not gonna stop. And we need to build an anti fascist movement in this, in this in this province, in this country.
And I'm just gonna use our slogan. In Peterborough, we say, there will be resistance. And on Wednesday, there will be. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Peter. Great, great stuff. I'm gonna go to Carolyn Egan next. Hi, Carolyn.
Speaker 10: Hi, Doria. Thanks very much. And great meeting, great turnout. I'm, president of Steelworker Toronto Area Council, also a founding member of Steel Pride in our union And, community solidarity Toronto. And, what I wanna say, and this is just dynamite that we're coming together like this, and, Echo what Emily, Peter and others have said.
The Toronto and New York Leisure Labor Council, we established a rapid response network, quite a few years to go, after the, the, the the murders at the mosque in in Quebec. And at that time, the far right was Organizing at, Nathan Phillips Square, which is city hall square here. And they wanted to take over the public space, which is one of their tactics and give a sense that somehow their views represent the majority, which is not the case. We organized that and not only ourselves, unions like the Ops U and, Steele, IBW, QP, and others came out regularly, but with community allies. From the east end of Toronto, we call team, which included the Muslim community there, black community, 2 s LGBTQ community, all different groupings.
And we were able, after a period of time, To demoralize them because we continue to grow, grow, grow. They continue to get smaller. They lost their confidence. They stopped. Now this was pre COVID.
But that network, that rapid response network was incredibly, incredibly important. And labor council along with the Urban Alliance on Race Relations and a whole range of other community and labor groups Founded Community Solidarity Toronto. And, obviously, we took the name from Ottawa. That was convoy time. Had a number of Actions here, in in in the city.
And I I think, being on the ready, not being taken by surprise, having organized beforehand, Know who your allies are, know who you're connecting with, and be able to pull people out and to show that they are the minority. And honestly, we have shown, I think here and what we had done a few years ago, they can easily be demoralized. Their confidence can be just ripped out from under them. And that's what we have to do by building large, mass united fronts In all our cities, towns with it brought a a grouping of, of of people as possible. And, the rapid response network I mean, the last I action we did was, At the, High Park Library on Rob Hassett's Vail here in Toronto a few months ago in the summer.
And, previously, there was something at at Fort York. And, numbers of the steel workers and others went up and joined Peterborough. Peter talked about what they were doing. And honestly, he did so much just to bring that all together. And we went out because they were just beginning.
And we're unsure how many they would get out and they got 100 out. And, the fact that, labor was out there, but community as well, students from Trent, etcetera. Really, really important. So we, as I said, are calling for a rally at, at, At Queen's Park on 20th. And, and, I think it's hugely important as many people it's a work day for for McAfee bus and the unions we know.
But at least if we can have representation from all the unions possible and community organizations, 5/19, I know, you You know, I've worked certainly with 5 19 and others in the past on, on such questions. This is critical. So, let's go. Let's do it. And, Yolanda giving us all the concrete steps, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, whatever.
They're there for us, so let's just move. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Carolyn. Excellent. Look, you got very some great points being raised in the chat here as well, and I'm gonna go to Anthony Marco here, shortly. But, 2, Let's, there's a great point that, Chase just put in the note here that we really do need to center trans and nonbinary voices with respect to planning on the day. Let's encourage, the entire community to get to to get active, and and we will make the space available for that to occur.
Anthony Marco. And then I'm going to share the link again that I'm asking everybody. Take the opportunity to just simply RSVP so we track your details, and we'll be able to share more information as they become available. Anthony?
Speaker 2: You can hear me okay. I'm on an unfamiliar laptop at work here. So, trying trying to make sure I can make this work. So as soon as we heard about the, the protest happening in Hamilton, we got together a group We didn't really have necessarily a rapid response network. We had a bunch of groups that were certainly interested in working with each other.
And over the past Decade or so in Hamilton, what we've been mostly focusing on is community outreach and building relationships with community. So bringing the people together happened relatively quickly. We started up a Facebook chat group, which was quickly escalated over about 24 to 48 hours to 150 local activists and leaders, many of whom were coming on representing entire organizations. And so we got that built really quickly. We created a private Facebook group to try and get people on there.
It was the easiest way to reach out to people, and, we started to bring people in from external to Facebook as well. We've organized a, planning meeting for the counter protest on Monday evening at the Labor Council office so that we can get everybody's ideas in there. We do want to make sure that the key is that, we are reducing risk as much as possible, that we are consolidating our message as much as possible And that we are, making sure that we're occupying, the space not only where they are but where they intend to be. So we have basically been told that they are going to be meeting in a parking lot of a local mall. I don't know if they're gonna be doing a tailgate for an hour or whatever the heck they're doing, but then they're going to be marching over to the school board.
So our plan is to be at the school board first, and we are going to occupy in front of the school board as much as we can. We are also being very clear that we are not there defending the school board. The school board has its own issues with regards to systemic issues, regarding regarding trans trans students and trans families, to be honest with you. I know I've got, 3 kids myself who are currently in the k to 12 system who identify as trans. And I I I know as an employee of the school board That there are a lot of gaps there.
And, so we're making sure that we are saying we're gonna occupy their space. There is no possible way that we could stop them from walking around us to get to the school board building, but that's not our responsibility. Our responsibility is to basically diffuse And to take control of the messaging and to make sure that if there is going to be depressed there that day, it is going to be about positive messaging about people who are allies And making sure that there's an understanding that it's not just all negative. And our hope is that we are going to we're actually steal a couple of their tactics in that when they are gathering for their, for their, tailgate party in the mall parking lot, We've got a couple of seasoned activists who are who've already said that they're willing to go over and, you know, take some pictures of license plates and take like, these are people who are willing to do this. There are people who are seasoned and, and make sure that they know that they're being watched, that they're not doing this in secret, that people are noticing what they're what they're up to.
But we're gonna have a sign making event also on Monday evening. We're inviting people to the labor council. And we have said from from Step 1, when this group was created. The labor council does not need nor not necessarily does not want to be the voice of this. But if that's what people want, we will be there no matter what.
So if there are other groups that wish to take on being the primary voice of this, And no one has stepped up yet to tell us no. Most of the groups who have come on, even groups that are like we've got groups like No Hating the Hammer involved, and we've got a lot of Anti hate groups and anti oppression groups that have, come on. They are, I think, because of the possibility of some of the inherent risk that could be here. They're quite happy that the, that the labor council is kind of taking, the lead on this. We did take the lead a few years ago when Hamilton had some incidents Pride.
And, you know, a lot of our members were the face of what essentially became a Pride, defense team, when some people were marching on the park at that time. So we are trying to be as inclusive as possible, bringing as many voices together as possible. We are not sharing all of the details until at least the day before because our biggest fear now is if we share the details of the counter protest that they're gonna try and pivot move it somewhere else. We wanna make sure that we have, everyone lined up to where they can be there. I will say we got, like, 150 in this 1 group chat.
We've got about 75 of them have migrated over to this private page, and many of them represent larger groups. We know that on a workday, it is going to be tough getting people to show up. There's a lot of people who are supportive I'm trying to get people to show up. I'm hoping and from what I've seen of, some of these organizations in the past, even though they've got these cross Canada events going on, that really dilutes their numbers in many cases. You know, oftentimes, when they have an event, they'll draw in from, like, 4 or 5 different cities just to get a 100 people at some places.
So we're hoping that we are going to overwhelm their numbers, and we are hoping that even if they march 25 people to the front doors of the school board, the school board can handle that themselves. Ultimately, if the cameras are gonna be there, we want them to be spending their time on the positive messaging. We want them to be spending their time On basically, this is an encounter protest. This will be our rally. We want it to be our rally, not their rally.
We want it to be our event, not their event. And if we have enough people there. That's what we're going to make it. So we're bringing together as many groups in Hamilton as possible, and we've been doing that for a long, long time now. And, Thankfully, our allies are making it, our allies for for labor, and the labor councils are making it really easy on us because he didn't set he's the same people who show up the strike lines even though they're not in unions.
These The same people who show up, whenever we call them out to to help with anything that we do. They'll they'll show up because we show up for them. I always say that You know, one of the the currency of activism is showing up, and that's what we do. That's what we do for them, and that's what they're planning on doing for us. And that's what we're all planning on doing, to stop hate in our city and to stop hate across the country.
So anybody who's on here from Hamilton, if you're not part of the, If you're not part of the the chat or the or know where the group is, feel free to, to private message me in the chat here, and I can, send you some of the details And, the information for the meeting on Monday night. Thanks. Oh, the last thing I wanted to ask, is it possible that the oil filer or CLC that have a list of some, legal support numbers from across, Ontario. Even it doesn't have to Hamilton. But, like, if somebody, for some reason, gets picked up, it would be good that if they could have a one eight hundred number that they could write on their arm or something like that so that they know they've always got a lawyer that they can calls.
That would be useful. I'm not saying it will happen. We're trying to stop it from happening, but we have some seasoned activists who have been used to that in the past. And then they they wanted to make sure that we had that option if we had.
Speaker 3: Great. No, Anthony. Great suggestion. Thank you. Before we go to Muneeb, I just wanna highlight a few pieces again.
In the chat, We have created a event page. And I appreciate if somebody acknowledged we still have a few kinks to work out on that page. Okay? The main purpose of this page right now is to track your information so that we can communicate back with you when we have a formalized list of Those resources all in one place as well as, the, you know, the locations of where these kind of protests will occur. So, again, I'm gonna put it right in the chat right now.
And I'm gonna ask, if you haven't done so already, that you immediately just go and click on that link. Get your contact information down there. We'll have it on the back end. And that way, we're able to communicate back with you, where and when we know events will be Correct. Thank you, Anthony.
Munit?
Speaker 11: Good morning, everyone. Really Appreciate the leadership team and staff team of the OFL putting this meeting together. I just wanna say kudos, and thank you. This is fantastic. Really loving the resources 2.
The only suggestion that I would probably have as an update, if there's anything that could be added, is maybe reminding and giving some tips about the potential The facts of what could happen is doxing. We've seen that with a lot of, fascist, white supremacist organizations and groups, that have been doxing a lot of, You know, progressive folks that have been organizing in their regions in combating heat in many ways. If there's a way that the the the information you have could be updated how to deal with doxing, how to protect yourself from being doxed, especially, what could happen as ramifications long term. Because we know it's not just what's gonna happen on the 20th going into 22nd and various Others gonna be continuous. Another thing, I one thing from OSSTF, we are Not just taking attention to where it's happening everywhere.
We've seen significant, you know, actions being organized at city halls and at school boards. But what we're taking active attention to is how do we have safety plans ready for those protests that are occurring at directly at schools. And I'm seeing from the chat this is super helpful to see, folks update on Huntsville and Bracebridge. We know that Maxine Bernier is gonna be showing up to Victoria Park Collegiate in out in Scarborough, North York area and something that we're taking a lot of attention to, and thank you for sharing resources on that. But if you could reach out to us to let let us know if you do see locations, and protests being planned at Ronald.
That'll be helpful for us and coordinate with our education comrades and, of course, our local communities too.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Manip. Again, I'm gonna remind folks, Go to the link, and fill in your information. I'm gonna put it in the chat one more time. I'm sure give me a little Hand wave if you've already gone ahead and signed up for the, for the page. That's great.
Here it is here again. Great. Excellent. Thank you. See you, Susan.
Thank you for that. Okay. We're gonna get to Susan next. Don and then Susan. Go ahead, Don.
Speaker 12: Sorry. There we go. Yeah. I'm I'm actually representing, a group called Infirming Worship Durham. And this, protester got my attention more than ordinary, because it's advertised as a religion.
It's a religious thing though the way that they sort of pre preface the whole, concept of this, protest. Now We're going to be trying to have a religious opposition to the the far right, and And doing it as as best we can, but we're having to do it with love and inclusion and positivity and what have you. It's nice to have the organizational structure that you folks are providing because, you know, to have allies that know what they're doing and what they're you know, what, To how to handle themselves in these, these cases. We've had a cases in the past where we've, we've had to almost back away from, a protest because there were people that were more interested in having confrontation and engaging in name calling and things of this nature. So it's, I'm very much interested in seeing how things are are are coming together here.
So, Definitely, like to have the that support structure. Not sure if all of our decisions Don't happen from the top. I'm not the president. Just that I just happen to be somebody that's usually the the communicator as far as this is concerned. All these decisions take place at the individual place of worships, throughout the area.
It's not something that I can direct. So, I'm gonna be trying to give them as much information as possible and, And ensure that we can, have some sort of an impact. I was looking at the at the spreadsheet, and I think we've got about 5 or 6 events that are planned for Durham region. And, we've got 22 places of worship. So it's going to be hard to have a sustained impact as far as that's concerned, but we'll do our humble best.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Don. Susan.
Speaker 6: Hi. I'm, I'm bewildered, but I'm actually Susan Gopke. I'm here with CUPE Ontario. I'm, the human rights chair and Been directed to by our president at CUPE Ontario to throw off my Sunshine Susie cape And put on my super Susan cape. But I use sheher pronouns, and I use a la Francaise, And I've got a heck of a lot of emotions surrounding this.
I'm an out trans woman. I'm a trans elder. And, you know, 20 years ago, we could get 5 people to protest at Queen's Park to get our healthcare restored. Now I'm you know, and I gotta say, I don't wanna go too long, Don, or whoever's facilitating, But, a lot of memories of the fights we've had where we struggled. There were just a handful of us meeting in a room, Going out trying to get allies and supporters in about a week.
And then we built this Canada where trans and non binary people and gender diverse People were included, and that took a good 13 to 15 years. And here we are, they're coming back. We have a backlash. But you know folks, we've been to this rodeo before. We have, struggled, we've survived, we've struggled And some of us have actually overcome, and that makes us really, really strong.
So about 10 days ago, or it feels like A lifetime ago in our world, when Steven Lying Leche said that put out the trial about, parental consent in the schools. My life seems
Speaker 12: to have
Speaker 6: changed. And then after conservative convention, And these are really minor and but many of us know how politics works, the inner wheel of big b politics. And they're simply resolutions. But the fuel behind these resolutions, that the conservative party adopted and so I was feeling a little lost After that, feeling wondered what's going to happen. And now you all bring me so much joy, So much comfort to know that there's more than 5 of us looking at each other in a small room, That we are here united in this struggle in solidarity together.
I just want to touch on Carolyn's Comments. My comrade over there smiling in the corner box. I'm in agreement and most people I'm talking to in my little bubble here, which is ever is it standing as I as we speak? People that I talk to want to stop this dead in its tracks, and that's the wrong word to use. That's a figure of speech, but I'm gonna we want to show them strengths.
And what we have in labor is numbers. And if we can put up a good show on 20th, But not make this a one time event. We need to be doing counter protests, educational forums, Trans day of remembrance is coming up, and we need to add that political message. We want our political people, The people who have been the word I'm thinking I'm thinking of misinformation That there there's this myth and misinformation of what's happening in our schools, what dry queens are doing. We need to be giving them the key message.
We need to have opportunities to, There's so many of them, it's hard to counter all the the hate messages, but we have time to do that. But this is, but Carolyn, back to you. If we stand up to the bully, the bully will decide what to do. They will fight, Fright or or or flight, fight, or fright. And so let's give them some fright on September 20th.
So that on September 21st till whenever that they're working on the flight Okay. I think I'm gonna stop there, but I just wanna I'm just really appreciating all of you here today to know But I'm not struggling alone, that we are in this together. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you, Susan. Okay. Folks, I don't see any other folks in the queue at this point, so here's what I'm gonna suggest as next steps. Another the next item I had on the agenda here was, sharing of these resources.
Now that I've captured All of your data, as far as we know, your email addresses for all of those that have been on the call, we had a ton of resources here today that we've discussed. Great links put into the chat. We're gonna take some time to synthesize some of that information that's been brought forward to us, make some edits to some of those documents as noted, And and then reshare that information with everybody back in an email, likely later today. If not, it'll be first thing on Monday morning where we'll know, where all these resources are. But it's critical that we maintain, you know, build the solidarity again.
I think as Susan points out, not just on 20th And the subsequent days that will happen thereafter because there are events scheduled for other days as well, but that we're building this rapid response network Combat hate everywhere we see it. So I want to, thank everybody for the opportunity to, to speak to you today about this. From a next steps perspective, I'm going to ask my colleague sorry. I'm going to throw this out to my colleague, Yolanda. And I appreciate, everybody understands, how rapid this has been evolving in how quick we are to take action here.
So we will get things buttoned down as we go forward. Yolanda, are folks being asked this point to input data directly into that spreadsheet? Or are you advising to send information to to us and we can update that internally? Can I get an answer to that question?
Speaker 0: Either is fine with me. Somebody or more than 1 person pointed out that we have to be careful of that spreadsheet so that it doesn't get damaged. I've created another one. So if something happens that one, I I have a backup. But, yes, if you know of things, please add them there.
And not just the actual, I started to do it, but not just the counter produce. But if you're having, As we've heard, there's there are poster making situations. If there are meetings, please add all of that. I will put my email in the chat as well in case anybody wants to contact me directly. But, yes, please.
The the more we know, the more we can share. And, and also people then can look back at Rob. At this because you all have the link now, and you can see if there's something in your area. And if you don't see something in your area, that is your cue. That is your sign from the universe that you need to be starting on.
You need to anchor it. So don't wait for it to be asked. So if you don't see 1 in your area, that means it's you. You've been tapped. Ted, you're it.
Speaker 3: Great. Thank you very much. I see Laurie's on Laurie's got the hand up. Laurie, go ahead, Laurie.
Speaker 13: Hi. Thanks. This is Laurie, with Community Solidarity Ottawa and with CAPE. We're not an affiliate, but, we collaborate on a few things. And I'm also on this the anti hate committee, With the CLC.
I'm actually just wanted to put our hand out. CSO is a group of volunteers who run out of pocket in Ottawa. Sorry. Community Solidarity Ottawa. And, Anybody that has any loose funds that they could send our way for logistics, we would we would much appreciate.
And, We put out individual calls, but I wanted to put out the call here. If anybody can spare a few bucks, then please contact me. I'll put my email in the chat. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Great. Thank you. Okay. So we have a bit of work to do ahead of us here, and we're looking forward to doing it. I put the link in the chat one more time.
For those of you who have yet to do it, please RSVP so we Track your data. Any other business before we wrap up and get into next steps?
Speaker 4: I just want to add in, I mean, this, of course, is not a fulsome list, but I just want to make note, that there are a few Crisis lines, helplines that are specific to, the trans community, queer community, indigenous community that I'm gonna share in the chat to ensure that if anybody on this call needs some assistance, or if they know people, maybe keep, you know, with you and make ready. And if there are more that you know about that you'd like to share with us, please send them to me, and then we can make sure that we share that information So
Speaker 0: I'm gonna put them in the
Speaker 4: chat, and then I'll put my, email address in the chat in there as well. Just I wanna make sure that everybody is keeping So safe, you know, both physically safe, mentally and socially, spiritually safe as well. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Shondrely. Okay. We're going to, this has been a very useful meeting. I hope, you've all found it to be so. It's 11, 15 ish now.
We've got a lot of work to get done in the short run here. We are going to be on the streets. We are going to be allied. We are going to make sure that, the people of Ontario Specifically, understand there's no place for hate in our communities. I wanna thank you all for being with us today.
There'll be more information forthcoming via your emails. And, we will see you on the 20th and the subsequent days thereafter. Thank you so much, everyone.
Speaker 1: Thank you, everyone. Thank you.
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A secret recording reveals a joint union meeting discussing strategic attacks on parents and grandparents protesting the SOGI sex activist takeover of schools. The aim is to disrupt, demoralize, destroy, bully, and intimidate. Legal implications of releasing the recording are being considered. Leakers within the meeting support our cause.
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And here is the recording. It's boring in the beginning but gets better RE: "Breaking News- I have just been given a super private/secret recording of a joint union meeting held Sept 16, 2023 to organize strategic attacks & counter-protests against those parents, grandparents & other concerned Canadians participating in the Million March protesting the SOGI sex activist takeover of our schools. Disrupt, demoralize, destroy, bully, intimidate... is the key message throughout the meeting. I am trying to find out legal implications in releasing it. There are leakers secretly on our side in this meeting."
Video Transcript AI Summary
This video is a meeting discussing the organization of counter protests against anti-2SLGBTQIA+ events happening in Canada. The participants emphasize the importance of allies coming together to fight against hate and protect marginalized communities. They discuss the need for rapid response teams, organizing safe and effective protests, and building networks to counter the rise of hate groups. Concrete steps and plans are being discussed, including occupying the space in front of the school board to promote positive messaging and allyship. The goal is to overwhelm the numbers of hate groups and focus on positive messaging during the counter protest. Labor, community, and student groups are calling for a rally at Queen's Park on September 20th to combat hate, aiming for representation from all unions and community organizations. Resources and support are being shared, and attendees are encouraged to fill in their contact information for further communication. The meeting concludes with a call to action for attendees to sign up and join the fight against hate, aiming to build a rapid response network to combat hate in all forms.
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Speaker 0: There's more in
Speaker 1: the waiting room, Rob. K.
Speaker 2: Just bear with us as we let, folks onboard.
Speaker 3: Excellent day to have allies together for a very important conversation. Thank you everyone for joining us this morning. My name is Rob Helpin. I'm the executive director at the Ontario Federation of Labour. We're, We're gonna get started here momentarily.
We've got a pretty full agenda as well, to discuss today, of course, about our, Organizing around the counter protests for these events that are occurring on September 20th and and a few days thereafter, quite frankly, as well. As you may have seen in the, In the, the the communication that we, we sent out. I'm going to ask folks if you're okay, and we won't be sharing this publicly. This is just for our benefit In case we need to take minutes of some of the details that are discussed today, I'd like to record this. Again, we will not be sharing that recording externally.
And as soon as we're done with the minutes, we'll be, erasing that. So if everyone's okay with that, I'm gonna go ahead and press record Again, for the benefit of our support staff and and taking notes.
Speaker 0: Recording in progress.
Speaker 2: So, Okay. Bear with me here.
Speaker 3: Let me see if we get more folks in this room. Great turnout. Okay. So, let's get started. We have circled an agenda around.
I'm going to ask One of our, my colleagues from the OFL here to put that agenda into the chat so that folks can see it upfront. But to kick us off, I'm going to turn it over to OFL president Patty Coats for a welcome and, a land acknowledgment. Patty?
Speaker 1: Thanks, Rob. I want to thank everyone, for being here on such short notice. As you saw from our, memo that we sent out, there's a number of, protest Events that are taking place all across Canada. We can't just let this, be idle. We need to be able to organize.
We need to connect our communities, in Ontario, from what I know, there's approximately 22, different, events that are taking place and there could be more now. But as, as allies and those that protect, Workers' rights protect our kids' rights, and the rights of trans and our 2SLGBTQ plus community. We felt it very important that we do come together to fight against the rise of hate. And we're seeing it in province across province across province. We're seeing it now.
And our education system with our premier, and education, minister has put forward with regards to, The obligations of, of teachers and school boards, educators, and school boards. And so that's why we're Here, we're trying to, to connect with all of you to talk about what's happening in our communities and what we can do as allies and supporters, to fight against the hate, within our communities. So, with that, I'm going to, go to, to the land acknowledgement. And then I will pass it back so we can, start, our conversations. Today, because we are joining this meeting places across indigenous territory.
I'd like to begin this acknowledgement by honoring the lands each of us are on, which has been the site of human activities since time immemorial. It is the traditional territory of First Nations, Metis, and Inuit peoples from across Turtle Island. I'm attending this meeting from Innisfil in the community of Alcona, which is the traditional land of the Anishinaabe people. The Anishinaabe include the Ojibwe, Ottawa, and pot Potawatomi Nations, collectively known as the Council of 3 Fires. Please share in the chat, the indigenous territories that you are joining this meeting from.
But as we gather here today, these nations continue to experience ongoing colonialization and displacement where land acknowledgments are offered in place of land South. This territory is part of the Dish With 1 Spoon Wampum, a treaty made between the Anishinaabe, Mississaugas and the Haudenosaunee where nations entered into an agreement to protect the land and responsibly care for its resources in harmony together. And I think, You know, that's all very fitting because we all need to be working in harmony as we move forward. And as we know, No. Our indigenous indigenous, peoples are have been, have been oppressed for, years years, millennium, you know, in time.
And we're seeing that oppression again with Two spirited, people with our 2SLGBTQ, communities. So coming together, at a meeting like this, I think, is It's very important. And, we're very appreciative of the treaties that are on our lands, the treaties that we should all be following, and that we all become, stewards of our land. So with that, I'm going to pass it over Back over to Rob, and we'll, start working on our agenda. So thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Patty. Yeah. So the agenda has been identified in the chat. We're going to have a bit of an overview here, a bit of a 2 part overview. 1st, I'd like to get an update.
I'm going to call on Director of Women's Rights, Chandra Lee Paul from the Ontario Federation of Labor, to speak to item number 2, a little why and why Are these anti-2SLGBTQIA plus protests happening? And then we're also going to get an update from Vicki Smallman, who is joining us as well, regarding some of the work that's been happening at the CLC emergency task force On anti two s LGBTQIA plus hate. So, Shawnee, can I kick it over to you for a bit of an an update of of why This is happening and where this is happening?
Speaker 4: Hi, folks. As Rob said, my name is Kimberly Paul, otherwise known as Shawnee. Hi. Welcome to user one. My friend answers to her.
And, this is scary. I'll be honest with you is a is a, member who is a out crowd queer individual and activist who's been doing this work for Geez. Over 30 years now. It is in my experience, my personal experience, the first of this time that I've seen here in Canada of this super broadly and coordinated, case right across the country of this time. It we are seeing a, set of protests that are all being done simultaneously.
They're all being set for 9 AM in each of their time zones, in every single province of this country in multiple cities of these provinces. And it is really scary. It is extremely similar, as to what has been happening in the US, and we are very, very worried about What could be coming next? I am Zooming in from Tkaronto, otherwise known as Toronto. The place in the water where the trees are standing, and, I'm I'm extremely worried about what's been popping.
And so what what we're is, a a, far right extreme response to, inclusive education, teachings that have anything to do with the 2SLGBTQI community, for the heavy response, in particular, The trans education, anything to do with that, in the schools and, You know, indoctrinating children, you know, in regards to anything to do with, you know, how queer information fair, right, or rainbow community, All various ways that we wanna, you know, reference, anything other than what the the far right, sees And so we are, wanting to show a very strong response, countering these protests to show that, you know, they even think that there's a possibility of bringing what's happening in other places Here, we're going to be there to counteract every single, step of the way. We want to show a very heavy love is what we have here. There is no space in Canada, in particular, you know, in in Ontario as this is what this group is here to discuss. And so what we see is that they, have coordinated, a rallies at legislatures, for 9 AM in each time zone across the country. And so, and then following up with 11 AM marches after those rallies.
And so what we understand, what we sort of see, the way they coordinated that, is that they plan to capture the media cycle Throughout the entire day right across the country. So they start in the Far East at, you know, 9 o'clock in the morning. And then As, you know, 9 o'clock gets spread across the country, they'll be capturing those media cycles, those new cycles right across to the other side of the country, which is, extremely worrisome. We wanna make sure that our messaging of no space for hate, of love, inclusion, diversity is, you know, what that messaging should be. We don't want them to get into those news feeds and capturing the, the, you know, the negative Aspects into those weeks, we want to be gathering those as much as possible.
And so we, we certainly, want to make sure that we are Safe in what we're doing, and that's what this discussion is here today. We want to hear from you what we you know, how we can help. Nobody is gonna be left alone. We wanna make sure that we're all being safe in this response. And we understand that there are many, many people on this call that have a lot of Experience in dealing with this type of thing that can help us keep each other safe and be strong in the response that we're, they're doing as well to these, to these hate mongers, really.
And so, what I'd like to do is we're we will share, back and with each other where we know protests are happening. As Patty said, we see, approximately 22 Rob. Cities in Ontario alone that have protests that are already set. That list keeps growing and growing from what we can see. A little later on, we can share, the the, you know, the the list of cities that we see so far.
And then if we're missing any, you can help us know where those are. But, it's, it's important, and I'm really happy to see that everybody that's here on this call is here. And we're we're looking to work with each other to to do this. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually, bring Vicky Smallman on to speak now. Vicky Smallman is the director of human rights at the Canadian Labor Congress, and she, is one of the leads on the CLC's emergency Task force on anti-two s LGBTQIA plus 8.
And, Vicky is going to give us a bit of an update, what's happening, Canada wide to the, yeah, the, yeah, the national perspective. Vicki. Thank you so much for being with us here today, and I'll throw it over to you now.
Speaker 5: Thanks. So just to give folks a bit of a background introduction, I'm Vicky Smallman. I'm the director of human rights at Canadian Labor Congress. And we sort of, are responsible for policy and campaigning, coalition building, on the full sort of spectrum of of human rights. And we are, sort of actioning the CLC resolution That was passed at our convention.
There was an emergency resolution passed on the floor thanks to the efforts of the, 2SLGBTI Workers Caucus, and allies. And it's basically and I will just quickly read it so folks have The context, that the CLC will encourage and support affiliates to condemn attacks against workers, Families and communities that support and defend trans drag into as LGBTQI plus events. Create flying squads To, that's b. So we will encourage and support affiliates to create flying squads to provide meaningful support to workers, organizations, and communities facing attacks and, 2, call for an emergency task force to develop a guide outlining health and safety tools for affiliates To ensure the safety of workers where events occur. So we formed, established the task force in June.
There's been 3 meetings, so far. The focus has primarily been on kind of getting the lay of the land and information sharing to find out Sort of where things are taking place, who might be, sort of forming the, in the process of formally forming flying squads or joining established local networks who have been doing this work for some time to sort of bolster and provide capacity and, Support and resources to ongoing, countering activities. And and we've been focused on, creating this health and safety guide. It's not ready. I wish it were.
The timing of this is terrible because it would be really nice to have this guide out now, but it's, it won't be ready for a few more weeks. It's, there's a draft that's been out to the task force members for comment, and we hope to have it to you soon. In the meantime, the CLC has been and the guide is really focused on Addressing the way that 2 s LGBTI hate shows up at work. So not so much responding to A specific moment in time like right now, which is much more of a fluid situation. I mean, really, organizing Against this particular effort is like organizing against jello because the the anti, hate crap or the anti 2 s LGBTI crowd.
The very there's various camps and groups that are sort of uniting and collaborating under one banner. Many of them, you know, we don't know for sure if a protest is happening or not happening, who's behind it and so on. A lot of that intelligence, A lot of that work really needs to happen at the grassroots local level, right, which many of you already know. So we're trying to find ways to bolster give additional capacity, and encouraging our affiliates and our labor councils to connect with local activists that that may already be doing the work to see how they can help create their own, infrastructures. And what it's gonna look like is really different depending on each Affiliate, each Labour Council, each community.
So that is kind of happening. In the meantime, we've also launched a digital campaign Called Workers United Against Hate, and have been sort of putting stuff out, through the summer, through pride the sort of tail end of pride season. And, all of our affiliates and local labor councils received package of graphics, talking points, and that type of thing. For these events that are happening, because they really are like, the whole issue has sort of evolved from drag story time to really target these, These inclusive education policies, and, and the parental rights rhetoric has sort of come to the fore. And, and that and the disturbing thing I have to say about all of this is while it's really easy just sort of say, well, these are fringe voices.
These are, you know, the the convoy, you know, writ large, etcetera. All of it is being validated and platformed and echoed by provincial governments and by the Federal party, right, which offers a bit of a legitimacy. And they have decided that it is politically Expedient to essentially throw trans kids, families, queer families, queer people, queer workers, kids Under the bus in order to win votes. I mean, we see in Manitoba right now actual bus ads from conservative candidates because They're in a provincial, election using parents' rights rhetoric as the hook. It's really crappy.
Right? So, so now we are really trying to, to to find effective ways to counter it. We will be sending out some more talking points, and so on. But, so that's where we're at. You know, it's we're trying to on a day to day basis to this very rapidly changing, landscape.
A memo will be going out the CLC to affiliates and labor councils about next week's demos hopefully today, encouraging, folks to connect with local organizers to Try and, ensure that there is a visible sort of presence, in the communities where these events are taking place. And, really, I think that Shawnee's point about, trying to flip the script, on the rhetoric is really, really important, and not let them set the agenda. We need to let Folks know that, you know, that 2 s LGBTI rights are important and central to the work that the labor movement does. This is about solidarity in action. We need to, express sort of love, care, and support for, trans and queer kids and workers and communities, and and Send a really strong message that there's that hate has no place in our communities or our workplaces or our unions, period.
And, hopefully, we'll see Ryle. That's sort of, a wave of love and support and care on that day. Happy to answer any questions, but I'm sure stuff will happen during the discussion. Thanks, everybody.
Speaker 6: Great.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Vicki. So so
Speaker 3: I just want to acknowledge, folks. I'm attempting to get these captions turned on. It's as the host here, it's showing me that they are in fact enabled. But, obviously, I'm seeing none of them, so I may actually try and move out of this meeting myself as the hosts come back in. I've got other cohosts here as well and hoping hoping that might reengage that feature.
My apologies for that technical problem. At this point, we're going to turn it over to item 3 while I attempt to do that. And I'm gonna welcome into the conversation Yolanda Bedesi, the OFL's Director of Human Rights. Yolanda, if you're able to come on screen and start talking about item 3 of our agenda getting organized, why we are mobilizing for this fight, some local, toolkits that we put together for local counter protests, and then we're gonna get into a more fulsome discussion about, where we can organize these counter protests and what information we know. So I'll turn it over to Yolanda, and Shawnee may be jumping in here as well.
Yolanda?
Speaker 0: Thank you, Rob. And the captions are now on. I'm not sure what happened, but they're on. Excellent. Thank you.
Good morning. As Rob said, my name is Yolanda Boudesi. My pronouns are She, her, and Al. And as you heard, I'm the director of human rights here at the OFL. As Vicky and Shawnee and Rob and Patty have said, it is More important now than ever to organize around these issues.
In getting a rapid response team in your area. What we are saying is that in many people have, in this effort, attempted to contact Rob. Members of the 2SLGBTQIA plus community. And one thing that we have noted is that this is not a fight for that community. This is definitely a fight for allies.
And when we say allies, this is not a situation where we're all going to be retweeting. This is a situation where, as my Colleague Felicia says we need to be as allies, we need to be coconspirators. We need to be in the effort in such a way that when the rocks are hitting these communities, that they're hitting us. And if, as allies, we are in such a distance that we are standing by and watching them, we are not really there. And we need to be in a situation where when something like this happens, we, as communities, as allies, as supporters, are able to organize and mobilize quickly in a way that we know at any time, when anything is called, that we have these systems.
Not just for the 2SLGBTQIA plus community, for any Islamic or anti Islamic or anti Muslim sentiments, for anti black, anti Semitism, Anti women, we need to be there. We need to have these in our communities, in our workplaces, in our locals so that we are able to move quickly. And, as labor, this is what we do. We organize. We know where our members are.
We know who's able to come out there. But this is a situation where we have an opportunity Talk to our members. Have those 1 on 1 conversations. Know who is where and well placed. Know what's happening in our communities that isn't Labor.
Know what other organizations are already doing this. No. But having members in the community there to speak about what their needs are. We have created a PowerPoint, and I'm not sure who's going to be sharing this, through some steps. Because as people have said, we need to be able to do this we need to do this counterprotest and our own protest in a way that is, systematic that is organized, that is ready to go in moments notice, and that is safe.
So if somebody can share the PowerPoint, please. It's definitely not going to be me. And we will walk through some of the steps. Our main questions are though, do you know what is happening in your area? Do you know that this is happening?
Do you have that information? Are you able to join a counterprotest authority happening? Or are you able to and and for some of us, this is what's going to have to happen to organize, To anchor an event. To get people out there. To mobilize.
To amplify the message so that we have as many people there as possible. Those of you who, unlike, Unfortunately, I have gone to the website and have seen how much hatred there is. But it's not as organized as they might think. We can see that it's very much a cut and paste Email type of organization. We need to be able to respond to that in a much better way.
So thank you. That's the first slide. We're saying enough is enough to hate. So second slide, please. As you've heard, this is a mass nationwide coordinated protest.
We see who they're targeting and What they're doing, which is the insidious way, is that they're saying that they are protecting children. And we know that, far from protecting children, this is actually an attack on children and on communities. Next slide, please. So as we are saying, as allies, we used to come together and say enough is enough. We're not going to tolerate the hate, the intolerance or the indoctrination.
Any form in any camp. We're going to organize and we're going to have rapid response teams ready to combat this hate. And we all need to be coconspirators in the community to stand up for this group, especially this time on 20th, but all oppressed groups. Next, please. We need to make sure that, in these attempts, that we're confronting the hate groups, We're organizing and mobilizing.
So we're transforming quickly. What is, someone said we are used to The type of hate and rhetoric that we see coming from the United States. What is unique about this is that it's now being under the guise of being led by parents. It's being met by the guys of being led by religious faith, and some sort of ethnic communities. And we need to be very sure that we Make sure the power of response is based on the hate and not on the people.
And it's a very easy way to divide many diverse communities Rob. By pitting us against each other. But within Labour, within progressive movements, we need to know. We know about intersectionality. And we know that hate can come in many forms.
There's a lot of ignorance. And So we need to make sure that our message is targeted towards the message as opposed to the people who are saying it. Because in that way, we're we're not going to fall Pray to their usual ways of bigotry. Next slide, please. So what we're asking you to do It's to make sure that you're able to plan this protest.
It's very easy steps. We're sharing information with our network. We're confirming attendance. One thing that we do really well in in labor is that we we we mobilize really well, but we don't organize. So we need to make sure that we know Who is coming?
Who will be there? Who is leading it? Before the event, make signs and posters whether you do it together, come together and do it, or have people do it With slogans that, again, are targeted at the message of anti hate and not at the groups of people who are promoting it. That we communicate these details with our groups. Very importantly is that we arrive 30 minutes before, at least, their planned protest.
So that we are occupying the space. That it becomes our message. And that we are then establishing ourselves. So we are not going into their protest. That we are already there.
We have established ourselves. Make sure that you have a megaphone, mic, music, flags, posters, banners, tranches. We know we know how to do that. And that use that opportunity to speak with People to spread the real message. Have a petition ready there.
Have clipboards. Have pens so that you can speak with people, get their information. So that your rapid response team It's going to be a team that you can call at any time. And it's gonna be growing. Next slide, please.
I'm not sure if it's going to be me who's speaking about this. I might pass it off all to Deshaunee. But we have resources that, the OFL has prepared for in general about protests. But specifically for this one, just some very basic things. And we're gonna put some links in the chat to some for some resources.
So make sure that when you're there, you're staying safe and staying positive. We don't want this to to devolve, into something that is messy. We know that there's going to be media there. And we need the message To be about a group of progressive workers who have come out in support of this community as opposed to a brawl that ensues with a negative issue. So stay with a buddy.
Don't engage in the conflict. Keep a safe distance. Focus on your positive message. We're gonna respect all the laws. We're gonna try to deescalate wherever possible.
And as I said, what's very important is to take up the space. Take it up physically with the amount of people you have. Take it up with the noise you're using. Take it up with the flags And the signs that you have with these messages of love and positivity. Next slide, please.
Here we have and we're gonna put these links to the sites in the chat. But we have 5 really great resources here, in terms of how you can plan a safe and effective protest or counterprotest. And last slide, please. I believe that is the last slide. The next steps that you're going to do after this, plan a debrief meeting with your group.
Very important for so many reasons. And especially one that is as going to be as, Tara does this one. Give people a chance who may have been triggered, who may have been, physically hurt, emotionally hurt to talk about what happened. What did we see? What did we Learn what can you do better next time.
Make sure that you can maintain this communication with your contact list. Continue to talk to and recruit members to be part of your rapid response team. And I call it a rapid response team. Because for many communities, the idea of a flying squad is in itself a triggering term. So So rapid response, so that's what we want to do.
Respond rapidly and get in there and help people. So be diligent for other hate events that can that you can disrupt with your group. And make sure that we are also joining other counter protests that are planned by other organizations so that we are doing a support and we are all getting together and being disrupting and causing some good trouble. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Excellent. Thank you, thank you, Shawnee. Thank you, Yolanda. And thank you again for your your attention this request. I mean, listen.
We we knew we had to act quickly. This is I I wanna acknowledge too. This is not something that sprung up on us. So we've been monitoring, the rise of, of of hate in this patrol, for quite some time. I wanna give credit, of course, to that are on the phone with us here today who have been, again, reporting back to, through the OFL, initially, the Canadian Labour Congress On the ongoings of these groups in their own communities.
I want to open it up now for the next item on the agenda, Which is, again, a bit of a discussion about where we can, organize counter protests. I do see, that, folks have been putting furiously into The chat where there are counter protests that are taking up, are occurring. That's great news. We're going to we we hit we did send along as well a, a dynamic, I would say, Google spreadsheet that we can constantly and continually update. As more information becomes available to us on where counter protests are being organized, then we'll be filtering this information in.
And we're also setting up at the OFL, a general, RSVP event page So that when we capture, members that are coming across this through our outreach efforts, that we'll be able to segregate that data as well to say that if you're in, for example, London, Here's the event that's happening here in Ottawa, so on and so forth. So I see some hands are starting to get raised. We'll do a bit of a go around right now Speak to some of the events that we know are happening, and our team will be taking note of this, as I said, and updating that, that spreadsheet as we go. So I'm gonna turn it over to Martin Riley. Martin and just, folks, if you are able to, as Martin has done, please raise your hand, in the future, and we will add you to the speakers list.
I'll try my best to keep that as fluid as possible. Go ahead, Mark.
Speaker 7: Hey. Thank you. So I wanted to bring attention to a protest happening, in, Scarborough on the 22nd.
Speaker 2: Oh, I
Speaker 7: think it's of particular importance because it's directly going after kids and going after my fellow education workers up there. It's, being put on sorry. Go on through it. First, I'll give you the details. It's happening at 10:30 AM on the 22nd at Wallingford Road and Cassandra Boulevard.
It's this location is chosen because, both sides of that intersection, there are schools, a Catholic school, and then, I think, Victoria Park. This group has organized protests before, in Ottawa, where I believe they got about a 100 people out, it was countered by about Double Dot Many, by, Save Canada and Billboard Chris. This has been in the books for, I guess, a couple months now. It was billed as planning to be bigger than that Ottawa one, and I will note that Ottawa one did end up, with some violence. Yeah.
So, I I'd highly Recommend we organize in the Toronto area, the GTA, particularly around that, and also see if Toronto York Region Labor Council to organize QP 44100 and the various teachers locals to go out to those schools and get them shut down by the workers there, to ensure that there is no possibility of our people and our kids getting attacked. And I'll drop a link to that, Rob.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Martin. Great. We're going to have that The Excel sheet, that dynamic, sorry, Google Sheet that I was referring to where we're capturing all of this data, but the link to that will be put to the, into the chat here by my colleague Yolanda. So thank you for
Speaker 6: that information. Emily.
Speaker 8: I have everyone. Thank you so much. So my name is Emily. I am a a, VP at GB 46100 here in Ottawa at, Carleton University, and I'm also a steering committee member of Community Solidarity Ottawa, which has been organizing in Ottawa since the convoy. I would just like to address Couple of points that I heard.
First, I'll go with, with a previous speaker. I was the parent who led the organizing efforts of June 9th on Broadview Avenue in Ottawa with Safe Canada, Josh Alexander, and Bill Burr Chris came. And I have a lot of great information To share and spread about what they did, how they organized, and how we count our numbers were, in fact, a lot bigger than just, A couple hundred. I think we had probably closer to 3 or 400, whereas ashes were indeed violent. And I really would like to, Start sharing that information.
I will also drop in a chat about an article the Canadian Anti Hate Network published that details our, our stories. In terms of Ottawa, we have, just planned a a counter protest, being, starting at 9 AM on pre court of Canada lawns. We show this location because it's just adjacent to ready we're building, and we are not in the business defending the state from fascists. We are in the business of protecting Communities and each other to ensure that the heat does not go out post in the streets. I encourage you to share that.
I'll again drop that in the in the, in the chat for everyone. And I also just wanted to, speak to something that, that Vicky brought up just about the how we're opposing this and what we're up against. And I think as much as it's important to, understand the fact that we are dealing with a very fractured and, difficult to track movement, That they've actually gotten quite a lot better organizing themselves despite all of these internal infighting. One of the reasons why we're having difficulty finding lots of accurate information on March That the organizing is not because they're disorganized. It's because they've gotten better at operational security.
They're doing a lot more things that's tighter and harder to and harder to track. So I just think it's important to kind of keep that in context that they are able to, at this moment, rise above their internal Discord to build a very, very big movement. I also think that I would like to bring attention to the fact that, like, this is absolutely
Speaker 4: crucial that
Speaker 8: we oppose this in the streets. And this is just to kind of build off of other points that other, wonderful labor leaders here have talked about is that, we all know that our workplace issues Stop when we finish work for the day, and we know that society doesn't stop when we walk into work in the morning. And we have to approach this in the we have to Keep that in our minds when we are out there. The fascists are organizing in the streets. I'm a researcher, at Carlton, and my focus is fascism in Canada and the Signs that I've seen that were rising, that this is far more than just, like, a far right transphobic protest.
They are fundamentally racist. They're fundamentally anti Yeah. They are fundamentally queer and transphobic, and it's just a matter of time before they come to us. And the only way the best way that the fascists have been stopped in the last 100 years has been when we unite in massive numbers in the streets. So this requires us to pivot And and start to think about how we can use our inherent strength in a way that we're not used to using.
We're we have to remember that our strength isn't just at the bargaining table. It isn't just when we're on the pickup line. It isn't just when we're trying to get some better benefits for our workers. It's about flexing that with communities. As a member of Community Solidarity Ottawa, I do just wanna, like, plug story.
I'm talking Super rapid fast. I just don't wanna take up everyone's time here. But I do wanna mention that as community as community solidarity Ottawa, we were formed in Convoy with lots of affiliates of labor. And since then, we've seen a massive demobilization post convoy. This is due to the natural siloing that happens amongst us.
We Get busy with bargaining. We get busy with other issues. It's a volunteer organization. But in that time of demobilization, they got better. The fascists got way better at organizing.
So what we need to do is really encourage everyone to reach out to their local organizations With not just statements of solidarity, but, like, actual tangible material things of People coming out. Administrative help to help launch websites. Help people build all those internal structures so we can build a movement rather than just putting out fires because that's what they're doing. So we need to start, catching up a little bit, and we know that we're better than that. We also don't have to worry too much about, putting our members and our comrades in unsafe situations because when we get numbers, we're gonna keep Each other's safe, and we're really good at listening.
And that's something that the other side didn't have, and we saw that on the streets on Broadview in June That they had difficulty kind of remobilizing and being fluid. And so we need to remember that we can we have a the natural solidarity in our hearts so that we can trust and listen to each other and move quickly. So building that trust and testing that trust in the Street is gonna be really great and very excellent skill building. So I really strongly encourage everyone to kind of think about how we can Really kind of think specifically, get to work. I know we're we we always end up in these meetings all the time, but now we've gotta just, like, hit the ground running, Start flooding resources.
Can we loan staff in kind to existing organizations in Toronto or Ottawa or other cities where they exist? Can we loan office resources? Can Can we do printing? All of this stuff is gonna be huge. QP 46100 as well just passed the CLC motion with a $2,000 yearly budget to it, and I strongly encourage everyone to that are doing something like that because that encourages that things actually just get spent.
Money gets out the door, and we have a more, a stronger promise of of support beyond a statement and beyond just, like, the handful of sustained This all the time just showing up to these things. Okay. I'm gonna drop all my links as well as my contact information into the chat, so I strongly encourage everyone And their dog to reach out to me. We can work together on this. We've got a lot of knowledge in this room, and I'm so stoked to see this many people on this call.
So solidarity, everyone.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Emily. Before I go to Peter, which I'll go to next, I just want to advise on what we are going to be releasing here any second now. So I've asked our communications director. I alluded that we'll have a central page where folks can RSVP to take action on September 20th and the the days that follow. That link should be momentarily available, and I will share it in the chat.
But it's gonna be critical That when I do that, that I ask everyone on this call to go immediately to that page and to fill in your information. Why? Because We have folks on this call that aren't, on the executive council that wouldn't have received this call through our normal channels. They've been brought in by their leadership. It's critical that we have your contact information so that we can share resources back with you as well as as more of those, dates and locations and times Or counter protests are established that you're in the know about where that's happening.
So once that link is ready, which will be very soon, I'm gonna ask that everybody on this call, regardless if if you've got this, if you're part of the executive council or not, that you sign in so that we can keep track of who's on the call I share resources with you. Thanks for your patience. Peter.
Speaker 9: Thank you, sisters and brothers and comrades. Peter Voch, from Peterborough The QB Retirees Network and Peterborough District Labor Council. And and thank you for organizing this meeting, And Emily, your comments were brilliant and, hard to follow-up on that. What we've taken your lead in many ways in Peterborough by building a network here. I'm with the Peterborough and the Kawartha's United Against Hate.
We are an anti hate network that's done 8 defenses Of Drag Queen story time, we've been under attack by Safe Canada, by Kevin Goudreau, by, by organized Nazis with Confederate flags. So we have some experience and some knowledge in this also like you do in Ottawa. And and in many ways, you're our inspiration. So again, another thank you for that. We are meeting at 9 AM across from City Hall in September 20th.
To oppose the bigots, we have a poster, it's already in the chat. We're gonna be organized. Couple of of of lessons tonight. I just Yeah. Everything's been said already or will be said, I imagine.
Labor council is crucial. I'm I happen to be on the the labor council here in Peterborough As a retiree, labor councils in Peterborough and Lindsay have taken the lead in this. And that's a an important lesson That goes back to the convoy. When we started in Lindsay, counter picketing the convoy in 2022, We brought out, brother James James Mulhern, a big shout out to to Lindsay Labor Council and also Dave Warda from Peterborough. We brought people out and we started that tradition.
That tradition of resistance. And we said to ourselves, Drag Queen story time taking place at our public library, staffed by our 2 b members is not gonna get shut down. It will not. And it has not. In fact, they've increased the bookings.
That's been their goal to shut it down. We've said no way is that gonna happen. And and and we have been prepared for every single one. Now I just wanna make one big ask here Oh, everybody. And Emily, you've you've hinted at it and so has Rob.
We need a network. We need 1st, the province wide network and a national network. I think we can start and you maybe the NFL can initiate this, but A lot of us are already ready. We're organizing on the ground, we're organizing labor in the LGBTQ plus communities, we're we're organizing I'm going to a climate protest, be making announcement. I I I'll be talking about public health care because if you look at the program, the Ontario party and the new blue party, They want credit card health care.
They want it they want chartered schools or or or or what they call it choice in education. We'd all know what that means. Right? We can see the other attacks. It's all of us under attack.
And I live in a rural area, so I I get this Stuff and I I I can see it. So let's work on more frequent coming together like this And forming a network and exchanging the information. I have a lot to learn from Emily. I'm gonna go right to the chat now Because you guys are fantastic and we wanna build it here in Peterborough because this is not gonna stop. And we need to build an anti fascist movement in this, in this in this province, in this country.
And I'm just gonna use our slogan. In Peterborough, we say, there will be resistance. And on Wednesday, there will be. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Peter. Great, great stuff. I'm gonna go to Carolyn Egan next. Hi, Carolyn.
Speaker 10: Hi, Doria. Thanks very much. And great meeting, great turnout. I'm, president of Steelworker Toronto Area Council, also a founding member of Steel Pride in our union And, community solidarity Toronto. And, what I wanna say, and this is just dynamite that we're coming together like this, and, Echo what Emily, Peter and others have said.
The Toronto and New York Leisure Labor Council, we established a rapid response network, quite a few years to go, after the, the, the the murders at the mosque in in Quebec. And at that time, the far right was Organizing at, Nathan Phillips Square, which is city hall square here. And they wanted to take over the public space, which is one of their tactics and give a sense that somehow their views represent the majority, which is not the case. We organized that and not only ourselves, unions like the Ops U and, Steele, IBW, QP, and others came out regularly, but with community allies. From the east end of Toronto, we call team, which included the Muslim community there, black community, 2 s LGBTQ community, all different groupings.
And we were able, after a period of time, To demoralize them because we continue to grow, grow, grow. They continue to get smaller. They lost their confidence. They stopped. Now this was pre COVID.
But that network, that rapid response network was incredibly, incredibly important. And labor council along with the Urban Alliance on Race Relations and a whole range of other community and labor groups Founded Community Solidarity Toronto. And, obviously, we took the name from Ottawa. That was convoy time. Had a number of Actions here, in in in the city.
And I I think, being on the ready, not being taken by surprise, having organized beforehand, Know who your allies are, know who you're connecting with, and be able to pull people out and to show that they are the minority. And honestly, we have shown, I think here and what we had done a few years ago, they can easily be demoralized. Their confidence can be just ripped out from under them. And that's what we have to do by building large, mass united fronts In all our cities, towns with it brought a a grouping of, of of people as possible. And, the rapid response network I mean, the last I action we did was, At the, High Park Library on Rob Hassett's Vail here in Toronto a few months ago in the summer.
And, previously, there was something at at Fort York. And, numbers of the steel workers and others went up and joined Peterborough. Peter talked about what they were doing. And honestly, he did so much just to bring that all together. And we went out because they were just beginning.
And we're unsure how many they would get out and they got 100 out. And, the fact that, labor was out there, but community as well, students from Trent, etcetera. Really, really important. So we, as I said, are calling for a rally at, at, At Queen's Park on 20th. And, and, I think it's hugely important as many people it's a work day for for McAfee bus and the unions we know.
But at least if we can have representation from all the unions possible and community organizations, 5/19, I know, you You know, I've worked certainly with 5 19 and others in the past on, on such questions. This is critical. So, let's go. Let's do it. And, Yolanda giving us all the concrete steps, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, whatever.
They're there for us, so let's just move. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Carolyn. Excellent. Look, you got very some great points being raised in the chat here as well, and I'm gonna go to Anthony Marco here, shortly. But, 2, Let's, there's a great point that, Chase just put in the note here that we really do need to center trans and nonbinary voices with respect to planning on the day. Let's encourage, the entire community to get to to get active, and and we will make the space available for that to occur.
Anthony Marco. And then I'm going to share the link again that I'm asking everybody. Take the opportunity to just simply RSVP so we track your details, and we'll be able to share more information as they become available. Anthony?
Speaker 2: You can hear me okay. I'm on an unfamiliar laptop at work here. So, trying trying to make sure I can make this work. So as soon as we heard about the, the protest happening in Hamilton, we got together a group We didn't really have necessarily a rapid response network. We had a bunch of groups that were certainly interested in working with each other.
And over the past Decade or so in Hamilton, what we've been mostly focusing on is community outreach and building relationships with community. So bringing the people together happened relatively quickly. We started up a Facebook chat group, which was quickly escalated over about 24 to 48 hours to 150 local activists and leaders, many of whom were coming on representing entire organizations. And so we got that built really quickly. We created a private Facebook group to try and get people on there.
It was the easiest way to reach out to people, and, we started to bring people in from external to Facebook as well. We've organized a, planning meeting for the counter protest on Monday evening at the Labor Council office so that we can get everybody's ideas in there. We do want to make sure that the key is that, we are reducing risk as much as possible, that we are consolidating our message as much as possible And that we are, making sure that we're occupying, the space not only where they are but where they intend to be. So we have basically been told that they are going to be meeting in a parking lot of a local mall. I don't know if they're gonna be doing a tailgate for an hour or whatever the heck they're doing, but then they're going to be marching over to the school board.
So our plan is to be at the school board first, and we are going to occupy in front of the school board as much as we can. We are also being very clear that we are not there defending the school board. The school board has its own issues with regards to systemic issues, regarding regarding trans trans students and trans families, to be honest with you. I know I've got, 3 kids myself who are currently in the k to 12 system who identify as trans. And I I I know as an employee of the school board That there are a lot of gaps there.
And, so we're making sure that we are saying we're gonna occupy their space. There is no possible way that we could stop them from walking around us to get to the school board building, but that's not our responsibility. Our responsibility is to basically diffuse And to take control of the messaging and to make sure that if there is going to be depressed there that day, it is going to be about positive messaging about people who are allies And making sure that there's an understanding that it's not just all negative. And our hope is that we are going to we're actually steal a couple of their tactics in that when they are gathering for their, for their, tailgate party in the mall parking lot, We've got a couple of seasoned activists who are who've already said that they're willing to go over and, you know, take some pictures of license plates and take like, these are people who are willing to do this. There are people who are seasoned and, and make sure that they know that they're being watched, that they're not doing this in secret, that people are noticing what they're what they're up to.
But we're gonna have a sign making event also on Monday evening. We're inviting people to the labor council. And we have said from from Step 1, when this group was created. The labor council does not need nor not necessarily does not want to be the voice of this. But if that's what people want, we will be there no matter what.
So if there are other groups that wish to take on being the primary voice of this, And no one has stepped up yet to tell us no. Most of the groups who have come on, even groups that are like we've got groups like No Hating the Hammer involved, and we've got a lot of Anti hate groups and anti oppression groups that have, come on. They are, I think, because of the possibility of some of the inherent risk that could be here. They're quite happy that the, that the labor council is kind of taking, the lead on this. We did take the lead a few years ago when Hamilton had some incidents Pride.
And, you know, a lot of our members were the face of what essentially became a Pride, defense team, when some people were marching on the park at that time. So we are trying to be as inclusive as possible, bringing as many voices together as possible. We are not sharing all of the details until at least the day before because our biggest fear now is if we share the details of the counter protest that they're gonna try and pivot move it somewhere else. We wanna make sure that we have, everyone lined up to where they can be there. I will say we got, like, 150 in this 1 group chat.
We've got about 75 of them have migrated over to this private page, and many of them represent larger groups. We know that on a workday, it is going to be tough getting people to show up. There's a lot of people who are supportive I'm trying to get people to show up. I'm hoping and from what I've seen of, some of these organizations in the past, even though they've got these cross Canada events going on, that really dilutes their numbers in many cases. You know, oftentimes, when they have an event, they'll draw in from, like, 4 or 5 different cities just to get a 100 people at some places.
So we're hoping that we are going to overwhelm their numbers, and we are hoping that even if they march 25 people to the front doors of the school board, the school board can handle that themselves. Ultimately, if the cameras are gonna be there, we want them to be spending their time on the positive messaging. We want them to be spending their time On basically, this is an encounter protest. This will be our rally. We want it to be our rally, not their rally.
We want it to be our event, not their event. And if we have enough people there. That's what we're going to make it. So we're bringing together as many groups in Hamilton as possible, and we've been doing that for a long, long time now. And, Thankfully, our allies are making it, our allies for for labor, and the labor councils are making it really easy on us because he didn't set he's the same people who show up the strike lines even though they're not in unions.
These The same people who show up, whenever we call them out to to help with anything that we do. They'll they'll show up because we show up for them. I always say that You know, one of the the currency of activism is showing up, and that's what we do. That's what we do for them, and that's what they're planning on doing for us. And that's what we're all planning on doing, to stop hate in our city and to stop hate across the country.
So anybody who's on here from Hamilton, if you're not part of the, If you're not part of the the chat or the or know where the group is, feel free to, to private message me in the chat here, and I can, send you some of the details And, the information for the meeting on Monday night. Thanks. Oh, the last thing I wanted to ask, is it possible that the oil filer or CLC that have a list of some, legal support numbers from across, Ontario. Even it doesn't have to Hamilton. But, like, if somebody, for some reason, gets picked up, it would be good that if they could have a one eight hundred number that they could write on their arm or something like that so that they know they've always got a lawyer that they can calls.
That would be useful. I'm not saying it will happen. We're trying to stop it from happening, but we have some seasoned activists who have been used to that in the past. And then they they wanted to make sure that we had that option if we had.
Speaker 3: Great. No, Anthony. Great suggestion. Thank you. Before we go to Muneeb, I just wanna highlight a few pieces again.
In the chat, We have created a event page. And I appreciate if somebody acknowledged we still have a few kinks to work out on that page. Okay? The main purpose of this page right now is to track your information so that we can communicate back with you when we have a formalized list of Those resources all in one place as well as, the, you know, the locations of where these kind of protests will occur. So, again, I'm gonna put it right in the chat right now.
And I'm gonna ask, if you haven't done so already, that you immediately just go and click on that link. Get your contact information down there. We'll have it on the back end. And that way, we're able to communicate back with you, where and when we know events will be Correct. Thank you, Anthony.
Munit?
Speaker 11: Good morning, everyone. Really Appreciate the leadership team and staff team of the OFL putting this meeting together. I just wanna say kudos, and thank you. This is fantastic. Really loving the resources 2.
The only suggestion that I would probably have as an update, if there's anything that could be added, is maybe reminding and giving some tips about the potential The facts of what could happen is doxing. We've seen that with a lot of, fascist, white supremacist organizations and groups, that have been doxing a lot of, You know, progressive folks that have been organizing in their regions in combating heat in many ways. If there's a way that the the the information you have could be updated how to deal with doxing, how to protect yourself from being doxed, especially, what could happen as ramifications long term. Because we know it's not just what's gonna happen on the 20th going into 22nd and various Others gonna be continuous. Another thing, I one thing from OSSTF, we are Not just taking attention to where it's happening everywhere.
We've seen significant, you know, actions being organized at city halls and at school boards. But what we're taking active attention to is how do we have safety plans ready for those protests that are occurring at directly at schools. And I'm seeing from the chat this is super helpful to see, folks update on Huntsville and Bracebridge. We know that Maxine Bernier is gonna be showing up to Victoria Park Collegiate in out in Scarborough, North York area and something that we're taking a lot of attention to, and thank you for sharing resources on that. But if you could reach out to us to let let us know if you do see locations, and protests being planned at Ronald.
That'll be helpful for us and coordinate with our education comrades and, of course, our local communities too.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Manip. Again, I'm gonna remind folks, Go to the link, and fill in your information. I'm gonna put it in the chat one more time. I'm sure give me a little Hand wave if you've already gone ahead and signed up for the, for the page. That's great.
Here it is here again. Great. Excellent. Thank you. See you, Susan.
Thank you for that. Okay. We're gonna get to Susan next. Don and then Susan. Go ahead, Don.
Speaker 12: Sorry. There we go. Yeah. I'm I'm actually representing, a group called Infirming Worship Durham. And this, protester got my attention more than ordinary, because it's advertised as a religion.
It's a religious thing though the way that they sort of pre preface the whole, concept of this, protest. Now We're going to be trying to have a religious opposition to the the far right, and And doing it as as best we can, but we're having to do it with love and inclusion and positivity and what have you. It's nice to have the organizational structure that you folks are providing because, you know, to have allies that know what they're doing and what they're you know, what, To how to handle themselves in these, these cases. We've had a cases in the past where we've, we've had to almost back away from, a protest because there were people that were more interested in having confrontation and engaging in name calling and things of this nature. So it's, I'm very much interested in seeing how things are are are coming together here.
So, Definitely, like to have the that support structure. Not sure if all of our decisions Don't happen from the top. I'm not the president. Just that I just happen to be somebody that's usually the the communicator as far as this is concerned. All these decisions take place at the individual place of worships, throughout the area.
It's not something that I can direct. So, I'm gonna be trying to give them as much information as possible and, And ensure that we can, have some sort of an impact. I was looking at the at the spreadsheet, and I think we've got about 5 or 6 events that are planned for Durham region. And, we've got 22 places of worship. So it's going to be hard to have a sustained impact as far as that's concerned, but we'll do our humble best.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Don. Susan.
Speaker 6: Hi. I'm, I'm bewildered, but I'm actually Susan Gopke. I'm here with CUPE Ontario. I'm, the human rights chair and Been directed to by our president at CUPE Ontario to throw off my Sunshine Susie cape And put on my super Susan cape. But I use sheher pronouns, and I use a la Francaise, And I've got a heck of a lot of emotions surrounding this.
I'm an out trans woman. I'm a trans elder. And, you know, 20 years ago, we could get 5 people to protest at Queen's Park to get our healthcare restored. Now I'm you know, and I gotta say, I don't wanna go too long, Don, or whoever's facilitating, But, a lot of memories of the fights we've had where we struggled. There were just a handful of us meeting in a room, Going out trying to get allies and supporters in about a week.
And then we built this Canada where trans and non binary people and gender diverse People were included, and that took a good 13 to 15 years. And here we are, they're coming back. We have a backlash. But you know folks, we've been to this rodeo before. We have, struggled, we've survived, we've struggled And some of us have actually overcome, and that makes us really, really strong.
So about 10 days ago, or it feels like A lifetime ago in our world, when Steven Lying Leche said that put out the trial about, parental consent in the schools. My life seems
Speaker 12: to have
Speaker 6: changed. And then after conservative convention, And these are really minor and but many of us know how politics works, the inner wheel of big b politics. And they're simply resolutions. But the fuel behind these resolutions, that the conservative party adopted and so I was feeling a little lost After that, feeling wondered what's going to happen. And now you all bring me so much joy, So much comfort to know that there's more than 5 of us looking at each other in a small room, That we are here united in this struggle in solidarity together.
I just want to touch on Carolyn's Comments. My comrade over there smiling in the corner box. I'm in agreement and most people I'm talking to in my little bubble here, which is ever is it standing as I as we speak? People that I talk to want to stop this dead in its tracks, and that's the wrong word to use. That's a figure of speech, but I'm gonna we want to show them strengths.
And what we have in labor is numbers. And if we can put up a good show on 20th, But not make this a one time event. We need to be doing counter protests, educational forums, Trans day of remembrance is coming up, and we need to add that political message. We want our political people, The people who have been the word I'm thinking I'm thinking of misinformation That there there's this myth and misinformation of what's happening in our schools, what dry queens are doing. We need to be giving them the key message.
We need to have opportunities to, There's so many of them, it's hard to counter all the the hate messages, but we have time to do that. But this is, but Carolyn, back to you. If we stand up to the bully, the bully will decide what to do. They will fight, Fright or or or flight, fight, or fright. And so let's give them some fright on September 20th.
So that on September 21st till whenever that they're working on the flight Okay. I think I'm gonna stop there, but I just wanna I'm just really appreciating all of you here today to know But I'm not struggling alone, that we are in this together. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you, Susan. Okay. Folks, I don't see any other folks in the queue at this point, so here's what I'm gonna suggest as next steps. Another the next item I had on the agenda here was, sharing of these resources.
Now that I've captured All of your data, as far as we know, your email addresses for all of those that have been on the call, we had a ton of resources here today that we've discussed. Great links put into the chat. We're gonna take some time to synthesize some of that information that's been brought forward to us, make some edits to some of those documents as noted, And and then reshare that information with everybody back in an email, likely later today. If not, it'll be first thing on Monday morning where we'll know, where all these resources are. But it's critical that we maintain, you know, build the solidarity again.
I think as Susan points out, not just on 20th And the subsequent days that will happen thereafter because there are events scheduled for other days as well, but that we're building this rapid response network Combat hate everywhere we see it. So I want to, thank everybody for the opportunity to, to speak to you today about this. From a next steps perspective, I'm going to ask my colleague sorry. I'm going to throw this out to my colleague, Yolanda. And I appreciate, everybody understands, how rapid this has been evolving in how quick we are to take action here.
So we will get things buttoned down as we go forward. Yolanda, are folks being asked this point to input data directly into that spreadsheet? Or are you advising to send information to to us and we can update that internally? Can I get an answer to that question?
Speaker 0: Either is fine with me. Somebody or more than 1 person pointed out that we have to be careful of that spreadsheet so that it doesn't get damaged. I've created another one. So if something happens that one, I I have a backup. But, yes, if you know of things, please add them there.
And not just the actual, I started to do it, but not just the counter produce. But if you're having, As we've heard, there's there are poster making situations. If there are meetings, please add all of that. I will put my email in the chat as well In case anybody wants to contact me directly. But, yes, please.
The the more we know, the more we can share. And, and also people then can look back at Rob. At this because you all have the link now, and you can see if there's something in your area. And if you don't see something in your area, that is your cue. That is your sign from the universe that you need to be starting on.
You need to anchor it. So don't wait for it to be asked. So if you don't see 1 in your area, that means it's you. You've been tapped. Ted, you're it.
Speaker 3: Great. Thank you very much. I see Laurie's on Laurie's got the hand up. Laurie, go ahead, Laurie.
Speaker 13: Hi. Thanks. This is Laurie, with Community Solidarity Ottawa and with CAPE. We're not an affiliate, but, we collaborate on a few things. And I'm also on this the anti hate committee, With the CLC.
I'm actually just wanted to put our hand out. CSO is a group of volunteers who run out of pocket in Ottawa. Sorry. Community Solidarity Ottawa. And, Anybody that has any loose funds that they could send our way for logistics, we would we would much appreciate.
And, We put out individual calls, but I wanted to put out the call here. If anybody can spare a few bucks, then please contact me. I'll put my email in the chat. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Great. Thank you.
Speaker 7: Okay. So we have a bit
Speaker 3: of work to do ahead of us here, and we're looking forward to doing it. I put the link in the chat one more time. For those of you who have yet to do it, please RSVP so we Track your data. Any other business before we wrap up and get into next steps?
Speaker 4: I just want to add in, I mean, this, of course, is not a fulsome list, but I just want to make note, that there are a few Crisis lines, helplines that are specific to, the trans community, queer community, indigenous community that I'm gonna share in the chat to ensure that if anybody on this call needs some assistance, or if they know people, maybe keep, you know, with you and make ready. And if there are more that you know about that you'd like to share with us, please send them to me, and then we can make sure that we share that information So I'm gonna put them in the chat, and then I'll put my, email address in the chat in there as well. Just I wanna make sure that everybody is keeping So safe, you know, both physically safe, mentally and socially, spiritually safe as well. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Shondrely. Okay. We're going to, this has been a very useful meeting. I hope, you've all found it to be so. It's 11, 15 ish now.
We've got a lot of work to get done in the short run here. We are going to be on the streets. We are going to be allied. We are going to make sure that, the people of Ontario Specifically, understand there's no place for hate in our communities. I wanna thank you all for being with us today.
There'll be more information forthcoming via your emails. And, we will see you on the 20th and the subsequent days thereafter. Thank you so much, everyone.
Speaker 1: Thank you, everyone. Thank you.