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Remember that 9/11 survivor that helped save lives in the basement of the twin towers that heard bombs go off? https://www.ksat.com/features/2021/09/10/a-key-rescue-on-911-how-a-janitor-at-the-world-trade-center-used-this-tool-to-save-lives/
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William Rodriguez, a survivor of the 9/11 attacks, discusses his experiences and activism. He clarifies that he never accused the government of killing its own citizens, but believes they had prior knowledge of the attack and failed to take appropriate action. Rodriguez emphasizes his mission to seek answers and provide closure for victims and their families. He highlights his efforts in helping undocumented workers affected by the attacks receive compensation and benefits. Rodriguez expresses frustration with those who refuse to share a platform with him, stating that they are avoiding important issues and using the tragedy for political purposes. He calls for recognition and support for the 9/11 first responders who are now suffering from health issues.
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Speaker 0: To Islam Channel, I, have to say that, you've been variously described as the ultimate American hero.
Speaker 1: And the subject of a lot of controversy
Speaker 0: That's a nice way. I was gonna say something a bit more controversial there. This weekend at the Global Peace and Unity Conference, one of the Parliamentarians, a senior parliamentarian, suggested that perhaps your, you were responsible for propagating the messages of, conspiracy stories of, the the United States government being responsible as for killing its own citizens.
Speaker 1: Incredibly, incredible. Incredible. He was there, and I was there. And he could have addressed me directly. And he didn't have, I guess, The necessary motivation or enthusiasm of this position to actually come over to me and ask me those questions.
It was very easy to do that. Look, he's not
Speaker 0: the only one who said these things.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 0: So so just before we go into the details of this, so, you know, why have you become the All American Hero. What happened on 9/11?
Speaker 1: Well, Carl, let's put it this way. I am just Not the all American hero, but I just did what it was right on that on that day. I believe that there were many heroes. Many people did deal deal the unthinkable and the, biggest outreach to try to help other people on that day. Many died, doing doing so, you know, sadly, many didn't have the opportunity to tell their stories.
I was able to tell my story from the very beginning. And in a way, I became the image of 911, especially for the Latino community because I was Hispanic, And there was not enough people with the ability to talk English and Spanish at that time Coming out on the news, but me and that basically gave me a free reign with the media at that time. So that's Basically
Speaker 0: How many Hispanic people were caught up in that?
Speaker 1: Around 800, 160, Around those numbers. The problem is that we don't know exactly how many, because a lot of people married American people with their names. They have to change their names. So From Lopez, they became Smith. So within
Speaker 0: Did you say 160 or 860?
Speaker 1: 860.
Speaker 0: 860. Yeah. So that's Quite a significant proportion
Speaker 1: of those
Speaker 0: guilds. Oh,
Speaker 1: yes, absolutely. But we have to think that majority of the people that were in the building early It's usually the support people from, let's say, kitchens, the maintenance, the electricians, People that work on delivery, on the mail rooms. And obviously, these are the people that support a whole corporation.
Speaker 0: What were you doing in the tower?
Speaker 1: I work in the building as a janitor. I was the caretaker of all the stairwells of the North Tower. I worked in the building for 20 years, And I had to clean 110 floors of stairwells from the 106th floor. Actually, I started, I didn't, I usually didn't do the 110. From the 106 store, story floor all the way down to the lobby.
And I will do that every day.
Speaker 0: What happened on the 11th?
Speaker 1: On 9eleven, I came in late. I went straight to the basement, and I was there with my supervisor, Antonio Santaramarcia, and 14 other people. When we here at 846, an explosion that went boom, very loud, pushes upwards. When they push us upwards, all the walls cracked, the ceiling fell on top of us. The sprinkler system got activated.
Everybody started screaming in horror because we didn't know what happened. And the first thing that comes to my mind is that a generator just blew up On the mechanical room. The mechanical room was located right below us. The building has 6 sub levels of basement: B1, B2, all the way down to B6. I was on B1, the explosion came from between B2 and B3, that's how we felt it.
Now I worked in the building, Carlos, for 20 years. I would know exactly the difference between An explosion coming from the bottom and 1 coming from the top. This one came from the bottom and prior to the plane hitting the tower. Now, When I went to verbalize it, because everybody's screaming in horror and in total despair at that moment, when I went to verbalize it, we hear, This is 6 to 7 seconds after the initial explosion, and it was the impact. It sounded like an impact all the way on the top of the building, and then an explosion.
And a person comes running into the office saying explosion, explosion, hands extended, burned 33% of his body, all the skin hanging from under his armpits Peeled off all the way to the top of the fingertips. I'm missing pieces of his face. And I said, what are you doing? And, you know, what happened? This guy was Felipe David, a black guy that I never met before from Honduras, who work actually filling up those, vending machines with supplies, soda, candies, etcetera.
And he was burned 33% of his of his body from that first explosion. Now when I see this, everybody's screaming in horror, I say, don't move because I was going to pick up to pick up, I mean, to pick up the phone to call the emergency medical unit that was located on the south tower. When I went to pick it up, another explosion. And The building shakes so much. And remember, the building was designed to oscillate because of the wind factor, but it oscillated so much that the walls started cracking.
You could hear the cracking, and everybody started running inside the office thinking that it was an earthquake because the floor is moving below us. So at that very moment, I realized that, you know, nobody was helping the man. So I put bandages around him, and I said, you know, we gotta get out. We gotta get out. Nobody was taking the leadership at that And I have to take it upon myself because I survived the bomb of 1993.
When I survived that bomb in 1993, I was stuck inside of an elevator that time for hours. So I knew that we have to take action right away. So I started leading this whole group of people out from the office To the area of the well, they wanted to go to the lobby. And I say, no, don't go to the lobby because that's probably where the problem is. So I lead them all the way to the loading dock area.
At the loading dock area, we led them all the way straight to a hill outside the building. That's when I see an ambulance. I stop the ambulance. I put mister Felipe David with the help of other people. We put them inside the, ambulance, and that's when I hear for the first that a plane hit the building.
A plane hit the building, a plane hit the building. When I turned around, it was a security guard.
Speaker 0: So was this what was this the 1st plane or
Speaker 1: 1st plane.
Speaker 0: So you mean, you had Injured, you had victims who had body parts missing, their skin peeled off, you're saying before a plane hit the building?
Speaker 1: That is correct. That is certainly my experience.
Speaker 0: So there have been suggestions Correct. That you have, put forward the notion The government was complicit in, trying to kill its own citizens. They have put them in their words. The act of terrorists in a plane attack on the Twin Towers, what do you say to that?
Speaker 1: They have put so many words in my mouth. They have twisted and changed my testimony. My testimony is exactly the same That I did on 9eleven. They said, oh, you changed your story. No, no, it's exactly the same.
It hasn't changed. If you get the transcripts from television from that day and put them up today, It's exactly the same thing. When I said the word rumble, and then I say explosion, they said that you change rumble for explosion. No. When they pulled me from the rubble, CNN came and said, you have 30 seconds to go on the air, 30 seconds to go on the air and tell you a story.
30 seconds? That is impossible to tell exactly what happened. So I gave them, you know, in the middle of the fog of war, what it was at the moment, you know, my reality at that moment. And for me, is explosion to me. And, when later on, I talked The whole
Speaker 0: Do you think That the United States was complicit or in any which way involved in orchestrating attacks On the Twin Towers.
Speaker 1: And I will tell you straight, I believe that the U. S. Government had indication that an attack was going to happen in imminent They did not take the right precautions and information was given not by me. This is not coming from me. It's coming from the government own Information, an FBI agent identified the hijackers and basically was told to Stop the investigation by a by a supervisor.
Speaker 0: Sir, let me just ask you again, just so that we're clear. You may have, you seem to be suggesting that perhaps the government was in possession of information.
Speaker 1: Of information, but to say but to say that the government actually killed its own people, I never said that. I have never said that. The reason that I'm asking for a new investigation is to find out exactly what happened because we did not get all the answers. And because I am actually asking for that information, they put words in my mouth. You see?
Because I don't say, the government did it. You don't see me go insane. 911 is an inside job. The government did it. The government So do
Speaker 0: you think that there were hijackers of a plane that
Speaker 1: I I know there were hijackers. I know they were Hijackers. How do I know? Well, basically by the evidence put forward. Is that evidence correct?
I don't know. You see, that's where the problem is. We need to get the real evidence that the government have that, remember, the 9/11 Commission, this information is still closed. Whatever testimony was there is close. It's not available to the general public.
And that's have been the problem from the very beginning. We need to know exactly what happened to draw our own conclusions. But for people to say that I say that it was the government who did no. What happened was there was a lawsuit. I did a lawsuit against the president looking for information, and that lawyer, Phil Berg, started putting every allegation, every conspiracy theory On that lawsuit, and I did not agree, and I did not at until this day, I agree with many of the allegation on that lawsuit.
So what did I do? What did I what did I do at that time? I fired a lawyer. I removed myself from the lawsuit, you see, to distance myself, But the information stayed there. So they say that, you know, because of the lawsuit said that Willie Rodriguez is Saying that the president and everybody was involved in the assassination of 3,000 people, they said it was me.
No, definitely not. I stay away from that. I don't agree with that. And I said again, I do not agree with the lawsuit. The lawsuit was failing from the very beginning because they put every allegation Of every conspiracy theory.
Speaker 0: What was your what's your motivation in traveling and talking and appearing on platforms and talking on the stages about your experiences there.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny that you say, I made it a career. I made it a mission actually. I made it a mission because I needed to get answers. I represent the victims of 9/11. I lost 200 friends on 9/11, 200 friends that I will never see again.
I was I am. I was not. I am. I live in Morocco because I survived by a lie in that moment, made it impossible for me to be here. Now what do I have to do to glorify the 2nd opportunity?
I got to continue telling the truth in the face of tyranny. I have to continue to tell the truth of the victims, survivors, and those affected by the event. I am actually, a leader of the Hispanic victims group and the victim support group. So I have a mission. This is a mission.
So I cannot stop that mission because some people don't agree with my experience. I was there. I experienced this event. Nobody is telling me to tell you this or to tell anybody that. What I'm trying to do is to get the information out to be able to get Closing emotional closure for the events for me and for the sake of the families.
Speaker 0: Just for our viewers, let's get some clarity here. Yes. Are you saying that these are victims or families of the some of the victims of the, Twin Towers disaster, of the 9/11 disaster, Who previously were unable to receive any compensation or benefit, who as a result of your efforts, or partly as a result of your efforts, were able to receive benefit. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1: A 100%. You said it correctly. There was a person in charge of the distribution of funds Of the federal compensation program named Kenneth Feinberg, I asked Kenneth Feimer to give me a hand to set up an amnesty program. I will show up on all his press conferences. I will interrupt him constantly To ask him, what will he do for those undocumented people that work in the World Trade Center?
And he said, well, the problem is that we cannot identify them. And I said, I can identify them, will you help me? He said, yes. So I went to all the Latino television shows and I asked for a PSA, a public service announcement And they gave it to me. And I was able to put together a database, a data program of all these people and brought it to him.
And I said, now I have the people, will you help me? I need an amnesty program to help these people. Then nobody's helping them. So they said, okay, now that you have that, yes, we will do it. And Within 90 days, we were able to get the amnesty program going.
Speaker 0: And how many people have benefited from that?
Speaker 1: 2,600 people.
Speaker 0: 2,600 people.
Speaker 1: 2,600 people. Work on the Tax Relief Act for victims of terrorism. That means that any victim of terrorism from now on doesn't have to pay Taxes for 2 years, we didn't have that before. We changed the compensation program 3 times. We work with Red Cross Salvation Army Catholic Charities to establish programs for distribution of funds.
We did and when I say We, I'm talking about my organization, the Hispanic Victims Group, which is me basically, and we establish Scholarship grants for students. And you can check this all out on the legislation and other programs. On my pursuit of truth, we have created Such an amount of pressure that a lot of information has become available that wasn't available before. A lot of people has come forward With information, internal information that we didn't even know it was available. I'll give you an example.
And I'm not saying it's because of me, But I'm saying it's because of the pressure. People that before was, very adamant to testify and to give information. Rachel Clark. Richard Clark, the czar of intelligence for George Bush that basically quit his job, goes to the nineeleven commission and open his mouth and say, we lied to the Families, we fail to the families, you know, we fail you. And, it talks about how they wanted to use 9/11 To create a war in Iraq, to go and invade Iraq, things like that.
When you start exposing these lies, we're able get to the bottom of things. And I think that 7 years after 9/11, I have been able to be a political pundit On many levels, and I'm still an activist. I am an activist, but a lot of people don't agree with this kind of activism, And they start putting labels on you to stop you. And that's what I get. And I don't care because I'm going around the world.
I met with kings. I met with prime ministers of many countries, with presidents of many countries, with members of parliament of many countries. So, you know, if they have this vested interest on listening to what the victims that were in the World Trade Center have to say, Know what the government is saying, there's something there, but we want to know what it is. We're not going out around accusing people. We want to get that information to know exactly what That's all.
Speaker 0: So, as a conclusion to our interview, William Rodriguez, tell us, what do you have to say to those people Who feel that they, it would be a mistake, to to share a platform with you.
Speaker 1: How ridiculous. You know, here Here I am, you know, 7 years after, I am a survivor. I am a person that experienced the event. I am an activist. I was a person that was wine by the White House.
They wanted me to run for political office. This is the guy that is going to get the Hispanic Latino vote, 30,000,000 voters. And I took the training. You see, I have met most of the politicians in United States that are very influential. You can go to any level, and they will know who I am.
And I get the respect because I don't talk about only what happened on nineeleven. I talk about the issues of the community. I talk about those disenfranchised because of 911, you know, the problems of Losing our rights, they have used 911. And basically, that's one known issue for everything that is, number 1, When they want to tap your phones now, that is legal in United States now, before it wasn't legal, it's because of 911. Want to open your emails because of 911.
They want to stop you and put you in a room without the right to a lawyer for an indefinite time is because of 911. This is the politics of fear that we have been receiving because of my event. So of course, how come can I I cannot go and talk about those issues because they're using my disaster, my despair, my pain For a political purpose, if they don't want to share the stage, they don't want to share a forum? You know, they have a problem. They have a problem because they are not facing the issues the way they are.
They use a tragedy. They have taken a tragedy and they have manipulated that tragedy, and they have not come forward with the reality of, you know, what's going on in the world. You see, 911 is not only affecting United States, it's affecting the whole world. And when you start putting, oh, no. No.
No. I'm putting labels. You are closing the door to understanding, to compassion because there's no compassion there. You see, you have to give me the time, and you have to get an argumentation and debate to balance your view. You're not doing that.
So If you don't want to share my space on the stage, I am not losing. I'm having the audience. It doesn't matter. And I will talk anywhere. People were angry when I said that I was going to go to places like Iran, because they invited me there.
But I will go anywhere in the world that they want to hear about the issues of the victims. I'm and I'm sorry to add this, but, you know, here I am, 7 years after, talking about 9/11, talking about the 1st responders, we have the 1st responders were the people that went to, help Once the towers collapsed, to look for the, human remains of the people that we lost, and now they're sick and dying. We're talking about Over 10,000 people from the 60,000 people that went there to help, all the rescue dogs are dead. And guess what? There's not a single program to help these people.
They're dying, but the government don't want to recognize it because of the litigation that, that will create. Now We're spending 1,000,000,000 upon 1,000,000,000 of dollars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other things that doesn't actually translate to the needs of the community. Why can't we take and put some program in place Once and for all to help these heroes that help us so much on that moment of need. So if they don't want to understand that I speak about those issues, It's not my loss, is there was.
Speaker 0: William Rodriguez, thank you for joining us.
A key rescue on 9/11: How a janitor at the World Trade Center used this tool to save lives
The number of lives lost in the 9/11 attacks likely would have been higher had William Rodriguez not been one of five people to have this inside the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
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This video explores the chiropractic debate, presenting arguments from both sides. It delves into the history of chiropractic and its battle against the medical establishment, including claims of a conspiracy to destroy the profession. The limitations of the current healthcare system, such as over-reliance on medication and surgery, are highlighted. Personal stories of patients finding relief through chiropractic care are shared, along with the challenges faced by chiropractors in gaining acceptance and reimbursement. The video also discusses the opioid crisis, the influence of the pharmaceutical industry on healthcare, and the need for a shift towards patient-centered care. It emphasizes the importance of living in a healthy environment, sustainable practices, and the collaboration between different healthcare disciplines. The benefits of chiropractic care, the changing mindset in healthcare, and the importance of personal responsibility and prevention are also touched upon. The video concludes with a lighthearted segment featuring a young child and snippets of personal experiences, expressing optimism about the future of healthcare and the freedom of choice for consumers in selecting their healthcare providers.
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Speaker 0: Millions of Americans swear by chiropractors, and many physicians swear at them, claiming that chiropractors are unscientific and potentially very dangerous. My guests tonight represent both sides. And they're here to discuss what chiropractors can and cannot do for you. Please meet them now. 1st, Doctor Steven Barrett is a psychiatrist, a consumer advocate, and a medical writer.
Doctor Louis Sportelli has been a chiropractor for 19 years In rural Pennsylvania, our chiropractor's doctors do you have a medical degree?
Speaker 1: No. And I don't want a medical degree. If I did, I go to med school, but my I I have a doctor of chiropractic degree. You correct. We manipulate the spine very specifically And very delicately
Speaker 2: What are you manipulated for? What kind of conditions do you treat?
Speaker 1: We don't treat conditions. I've just said that.
Speaker 2: You don't treat anybody.
Speaker 1: The fact of the matter remains is there are functional angina cases that go to their cardiologists, have had their cardiovascular system checked, have proven to be normal. They still retain their functional angina, which are fearful constricting chest pains. They go to a Procter, they have their dorsal spine manipulated. And by god, you know what happens? Nothing.
What happens is they lose their functional understanding. That's what's said by thousands of people, incidentally. This is one of the problems, David.
Speaker 2: I will answer any letter that comes and send information about chiropractors. If you're gonna go to see 1, you better know what you're getting into.
Speaker 3: Western medicine kind of started as tradition at the turn of the century And in response to, quote, unquote, quackery
Speaker 4: There has been a deliberate campaign to label anybody who doesn't sell or distribute drugs, surgery, or radiation as a quack.
Speaker 5: Your dad's a quack.
Speaker 6: Right? Your dad's a quack.
Speaker 1: My daddy says your daddy's a quack.
Speaker 7: My dad said I'd sooner die in a normal fashion than see a quack.
Speaker 6: He didn't know what a quack was. He just knew that his dad labeled my dad a quack.
Speaker 8: You're quacks, and you're not.
Speaker 9: I kind of thought Chiropractors were quacks. I don't know why I thought that. I just did. And I I think I was like the general public.
Speaker 10: Chiropractors are bad. They're dangerous. Quack. Suicide. You keep saying that often enough, people start believing you.
Speaker 11: Medical insurance used to not pay for any chiropractic.
Speaker 12: I mean, in the day, it
Speaker 11: was like, forget if it's quackery
Speaker 13: Quackery. Quacks. Quacks and charlatans attack Quacks.
Speaker 14: Almost any time in history. Go to Copernicus. Go to Galileo. They were considered at their time when they innovated futuristic ideas that were aligned with higher truths.
Speaker 1: We were nuts. We were crazy. We were quacks.
Speaker 9: My choices were exploratory surgery or a quack. I woke up the next morning and chose the quack.
Speaker 15: If helping Somebody with a natural approach to health care versus a addictive, potentially fatal approach is quackery. They call me a quack every day of the week.
Speaker 6: This is the town of Houma, Louisiana, one of the most Southernmost parts to the west of New Orleans by about 50 miles. This is where my dad stopped the car when he drove down from Davenport, Iowa after chiropractic school. This is where he began his practice. It was one of 4 states that had yet licensed the profession. He didn't realize that it was also gonna be the last state to license the profession.
And the reason being is that the AMA political medicine at that time had a committee who were charged with containing and eliminating the chiropractic profession. The chairman of that committee happened to be from New Orleans. He willed the great influence in the legislature and, and and in politics in our state. And that's why Louisiana was the last state and why Chiropractors in Louisiana were especially demonized.
Speaker 16: At the Chicago headquarters of the American Medical Association Is the spokesman for the majority of its 110,000 doctor members, able publicist doctor Morris Fishbein, Who opposes any radical departure from long established medical practice?
Speaker 17: We insist that the practice of medicine is a doctor's problem. The doctor is the only one entitled by training, by experience, and by law to take care of the sick. Medicine is still a profession. It must never become a business or a trade. Never the subservient tool of a governmental bureaucracy.
Speaker 10: You can trace medical racism back to 1 man. His name was Morris Fishbein. He owned the AMA from 1924 to 1949. He was executive director, the editor of its journals. He was dubbed the medical Mussolini by his contemporaries because he was such an effective tyrant.
Speaker 6: That was an environment that my dad and many other people were practicing in. And it took a lot of courage. It took a lot of conviction and a lot of belief in what they were doing to stay the course. Not only was it tough making a living back at that time, But it was tough socially and culturally. My older brother was killed in Vietnam.
He was the 1st Louisiana soldier killed in Vietnam, and he's on the wall in the Vietnam Memorial is number 100. Soon after my brother was killed, My mom just went into a depression. She took it very hard and she wouldn't leave the house. Dad finally got her out 1 night. He says, Pat, come with me.
We're going to bowl. He bowled once a week with a Group of people in a bowling team and mom said, okay, I need to start getting out. And within 30 minutes I recall them coming back home And mom would have been visibly upset. She was still crying as she went into her room. And I looked at my dad and I said, dad, is it is it Raymond, My brother and dad said no.
Since there was a medical doctor who happened to be on that other team that we were bowling against. And he made a big stink that he wasn't gonna bowl if a chiropractor was gonna be on the other team. Your mother in her state, she kinda went off on him. She says, I just lost my son in defense of this country. I gave my oldest son up, and you're gonna treat my husband and my family this way?
She was really upset about it, and, and mom talked about that until almost her dying days. She used to always remember that one incident and how cruel and insensitive Medicine could be to her and her husband. Part of this contain and eliminate strategy was they labeled chiropractors unscientific cultists. And that was in an era where the cultists were were pretty nasty people. Chiropractors were put right into that boat.
Cults back then were was a mass suicide, and they labeled chiropractors the same as they labeled those types of people. He had no idea at all that this new profession that he loved and he knew he was helping a lot of people with was gonna be labeled a cult. Normal people in society would almost revolt when they saw a chiropractor come in because they thought These people were crazy. They they were mutants. They were cultists.
That's what political medicine did to him and to all of his colleagues.
Speaker 1: We have a small local community hospital. I'd send patients up there for urinalysis and blood work. They refuse to do my blood work on my patients. They refuse to do a urinalysis for me. And later, I find out that, joke up there was, well, what does a chiropractor wanna your analysis for it, they probably don't even know what it tastes like.
The more you begin to wonder, is there something bigger going on that I can't get my arms Every workers' compensation insurance carrier in the United States of America pays for chiropractic. Medicare
Speaker 2: pays for it. Did they decide do that voluntarily, or did you ram laws through the state legislatures to get to
Speaker 1: the door? When we get to the political power and American Medical Association, we'll talk about answer the question. Do they do it voluntarily? Well, of course not. They don't do anything voluntarily.
The AMA in 1963 formed a committee on quackery whose goal and objective was to contain and eliminate the profession of chiropractic, and they did it in the most clandestine way possible.
Speaker 7: Doctor Sabatier from Louisiana Was a member of the what was originally called the Committee on Chiropractic, but the powers that be said that sounds too noble. Change it to committee on quackery. So your young medical students, the day they opened their locker, ended up with a quack pack telling the young, impressionable doctors to be, male and female, they were killing their patients if they allow them to go near a doctor of chiropractic. He said, you are going to get reports from many, many of your patients that they are going to Chiropractors and getting help. Say something like this.
Chiropractors are like little puppies, cute but rabid. They are killers. Do you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give? The truth, the whole truth,
Speaker 18: and nothing but the truth? Is it a happy god?
Speaker 19: I do.
Speaker 7: Mister Taylor, did you ever hear doctor Sabatier use the term rabbit dog or killer with respect to chiropractors? Not to my knowledge.
Speaker 1: And then comes the day that I recall like it was yesterday, that a a brown unmarked package in the mail. And I took out this ream literally 500 and some pages. I read the first couple pages, and I I I said to myself, this can't be true.
Speaker 7: It purported to be copies of original documents from the American Medical Association and other medical Trade associations. They engaged in a nationwide, lengthy, widespread, Illegal conspiracy to destroy chiropractic.
Speaker 1: This became dubbed Sore throat. And sore throat decided that his very life might be in jeopardy, But he agreed to talk to a group of chiropractors at a seminar.
Speaker 7: The guy would get on with a a a voice synthesizer. He was smart enough not to leave his fingerprints or his voiceprints.
Speaker 1: He was challenging the chiropractor community to do something about this. You have now the data that I've gotten for you. So here was an audience prepped and listening to the speaker, and all of a sudden, sore throat comes on. And he says, I'm a medical doctor, And I've worked for the AMA for a number of years.
Speaker 20: Approximately 2 years ago, I finally woke up and found myself working in the middle of a morally corrupt, Politically and
Speaker 1: economically motivated organization. Wow. Think about those words to the ears of doctors of chiropractic who've been oppressed for all these years.
Speaker 7: At first, they maintained that the documents that the sore throat had distributed word fake. But then it turned out that we found them out in the state, county, and local society files, And I asked them, where'd you get them? And they said, well, the AMA sent them to us. And then we asked the AMA, why don't you have all of the documents that we're finding out in The boonies. Their answer to me was, well, we gathered all those documents together, and the janitor mistook it as garbage and disposed of it.
I'm a lawyer. I'm not an idiot. They were killing off enough people, so it didn't make any difference. Do you know how many they killed off? No.
I don't know. In fact, didn't you search for the number of malpractice or deaths, attributable to chiropractic on numerous occasions? No. I don't ever remember searching for chiropractic deaths. Isn't that something you'd wanna know if you were, in the statement that they were killing off so many people?
I usually didn't know. You did know? What was the figure you you were able to come up with?
Speaker 21: I I have no figure that I could
Speaker 22: give you. His deposition, I think, was so paramount in Why ultimately the case was 1? He was, to be quite honest, very arrogant. There was one part of the deposition where he was asked, did you know anything about of a chiropractor. His answer was, you know, I didn't know anything about it.
I didn't know the difference between a chiropractor and an antelope.
Speaker 21: I didn't know anything about chiropractic when I went to the EMA. I didn't know A chiropractor from an antelope.
Speaker 6: When one of the largest political organizations in the world targets you to contain you and eliminate you and then uses all their powerful forces to bring you down, You better be darn strong to survive that. That's what this profession did. They survived that, and they instilled in those future generations that, Yeah. Someone's gonna be a little skeptical, but there's a reason for that. Understand that reason and go beyond that.
Speaker 23: The essence of the findings Was. This was a profession that in its treatment and diagnostic methods was sophisticated in an area that had been overlooked Otherwise, in medical science, it was severely against the public interest that the professions were fighting with each other With faults on both sides, the public and patients would profit so much from these professions actually working together rather than being involved in a marketplace battle.
Speaker 1: The For economic viability. Now, they've got 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars as a result of All the publications that they have. And then you take all the publications and multiply that by every pharmaceutical ad, And now you can start to see the inextricable tie between the pharmaceutical company and the AMA. So from a money position, they're as
Speaker 14: There's a macro view. You could take a deep dive into the little pictures. You've got the medical industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the insurance industry, The legal industry, the food industry, you got government regulation. All these things interact and have impact on individual people's lives. And we take a step back and look at the macro view, you recognize the whole thing's been doctored.
But in order to understand all these individual pieces, You really have to take a step back and see the big picture.
Speaker 1: What plagues me every day was literally the millions of people who never went to a doctor of chiropractic because they had been brainwashed into believing that chiropractic was not credible. There are some things that are forgivable and some things that are not. I can't tell you how many times patients would come to me in desperation after they had been everywhere and would say, if I only would have known about chiropractic
Speaker 19: I've been trained in martial arts for all my adult life and and prior. I'm pretty good. To get good, you kinda have to leave your ego out the door. You gotta lose and be willing to lose and learn from it. I had some numbness all the way around my waist when I would start to run.
That's how it started. I figured I'd just tweak something in my back. They sent me to a neurologist. I get a spinal tap, nerve test, CAT scan, MRIs, and he says, you have MS. So I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.
I really didn't know how to react because I didn't know how to accept it. This is what you're gonna have the rest of your life. Even though I had been sick for a year, Never occurred to me that I wasn't next week gonna be better. And so when somebody tells you, ain't gonna happen, I don't know what to do with that. It didn't sit well for a number of reasons.
One, I just I couldn't really accept. And and then he told me, you cannot Exercise the way you work out. You have to be very careful about overheating your core. He even told me, you know, hot tub is too much. You overheat your core, it will kick an episode.
Going to the gym, working out, I mean, that wasn't just something I do. You know? It's kind of part of who you are. There were 3 medicines at the time. And I remember the funny thing was He just brought out the 3 boxes and set them down and said pick 1.
And I was like, wait a minute. I didn't go to med school. You did. You're supposed to tell me what to do. He said, look, I can give you one, and we could be back in here 6 months or a year.
And it's it's not really working, so I would take you off of that and put you on this one. I said, look, I wanna try everything I can out there, natural, homeopathic, voodoo, before I get on these drugs. Because, like, the list of what it could do for me was this big, and the list of possible side effects is like this, and one of them suicidal tendencies. That sounded nuts to me. I kept going to the gym for my own well-being, my own psyche.
In my mind, if I stopped moving, I may not be able to start again. At my core, I've always felt the body was made to heal itself
Speaker 4: James, tell me why you wanna live. What's important for you? How come you're here? In this shape, on this quest, with this attitude.
Speaker 19: So I was always looking for different things. And I'm very fortunate. I have past benefits. I worked For Delta Airlines for years. So when I find something interesting, exciting,
Speaker 21: I can pick up the
Speaker 19: phone or jump on a plane and go. And so I'd like you to talk to me a little bit about What are we doing wrong? What are we doing right? What should we be doing?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not interested in your MS. I'm interested in you being well And I say, No matter what, between now and the end of your life, and I don't know when that's gonna be, what is your greatest chance to have a wonderful experience between now and then? The things that kill 80% of us are chronic illness, lifestyle illness. Literally, 8 out of 10 people will die of lifestyle illness, of chronic illness. It's suicide by lifestyle.
I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, how to palliate them along the predetermined path of worsening chronic illness and early death. And that's the system, isn't it?
Speaker 19: So who sold us the bill of goods And why?
Speaker 4: Because there's money in sickness, James. It's the leading industry in the world.
Speaker 14: The biggest contradiction in our Culture today is calling medicine health care. Medicine is not health care. It's sick care. And when you take sick care and provide it to a culture like health care, then you end up with a sick culture, and that's why we spend $2,700,000,000,000 per year on what we call health care, and we're incredibly sick as a culture.
Speaker 22: I
Speaker 24: don't think any of us would have a problem spending that much money if we got results, but we're not getting the results for that investment. We're not gonna be able to afford these is it's a simple basic reality. It's a fatally flawed system that eventually most experts believe will crash, and then we're gonna have to rely on solutions that truly address the foundational causes of the health care problems that people are facing. Every year, a 125,000 people die From properly prescribed prescription drugs.
Speaker 3: There is significant pressure from pharmaceutical companies to continue doling out as many medications as possible. These things aren't changed overnight. It's like turning to Titanic, but there's no question that it makes Perfect sense, and there's not a single member of the Western medical community or any CEO of any pharmaceutical company that wouldn't agree. People are better off if they aren't taking so many medications.
Speaker 25: When I grew up, you got a drug. You were sick. You took a drug for 7 days. You went off of it. You never took it again.
They started selling continuity drugs and they say, not only this, but we expect you to take this for the rest of your life. We don't want you to get well because if you get well, you stop our cash flow. There's plenty of cash flow. There's more than enough. But what happens is big pharma's in a scarcity model.
And as long as you look out of eyes limitation, you're gonna see limitation.
Speaker 26: The United States represents 5% of the Earth's population, yet we manage to consume over 50% of all prescriptions written worldwide. So we're clearly a target rich environment for the pharmaceutical industry. I think as a society of physicians, we've got comfortable with the fact That the quickest and easiest way to mitigate that pain is through the form of a pill as opposed to other alternative means of pain reduction, and that requires effort. That requires me taking time with you.
Speaker 27: Because of this the current system that we have where every 5 minutes, you're supposed to see another patient and hand out another pill, I think intuitively most physicians realize this isn't medicine. This is just cookbook. They become frustrated and disillusioned and disgusted
Speaker 28: with what they're doing. I'm a primary care physician, but what I really do is try to get to the root of why people have needed to come in to see me. And I wasn't able to do that the way I had dreamed of being able to do when I was a kid. Telling people that what they've heard from other doctors is wrong, That's a very risky position for me to be taking.
Speaker 29: When a patient interfaces with the health care system, it's common today that they're not told all of their options. From validated research studies, we know that 20 to 30% of medications and procedures may not be necessary. We're taught when to operate, but we're not really told when not to operate. The latter is the more difficult thing to master.
Speaker 26: It frustrates me to no end that I am part of a system that is broken and doesn't work. There's the science behind medicine which we can all learn, then there's the art of medicine, which many never learn. And I'm afraid that that's an art that's dissipating quickly. If we don't do something about it, it's gonna be lost art.
Speaker 30: I have seen, I would say, a dozen doctors, so called specialists in each of their fields heart, Spine, brain, everything. There is something inherently wrong deep down inside me. I know that. I've been tested for everything under the sun. I could drop dead tomorrow, and I wouldn't know what it was of.
And I don't think Western medicine does either. They've been Most unhelpful, nobody has had the good sense to say, mister Morris, we don't know what's wrong with you. Instead, they make up all this crap. You have this? Now go see that guy.
He'll take care of it. In all that time, everybody's passing the buck. I felt increasingly I was just being treated like a number. I really feel my life is in the balance. I think that I need help that medicine isn't giving me and therefore, I'm sort of throwing myself at the feet of alternative medicine.
I'm willing to try things that I thought were nothing but Shamanism.
Speaker 31: Big pharma has taken the power out of the medical doctors' hands. They have commercials on television that say, if you have these symptoms, go Go see your doctor and get this drug. I mean, when you go to see your doctor, you tell him your symptoms. The doctor is supposed to know what the best drug is for you. You're not supposed to go in and say, I need this drug could have these symptoms, and it's kind of an affront to what the medical doctor is all about.
And then when you look at the side effects of some of these medications. I they're worse than having the actual disease that they're trying to cure. They're big business. They're big money. They have taken over the what I would consider really true health care, which is prevention first and then getting back to normal that honors the homeostasis or the natural balance that the body is always trying to maintain.
James, tell me how old you are.
Speaker 19: I'm 52.
Speaker 31: 52. And you've had MS. You were diagnosed with MS when you were 38 years old?
Speaker 19: Yes, I'm 14 years.
Speaker 31: Okay. Tell me the main symptoms, what you experience from a day to day basis.
Speaker 19: I call it wobbly. My legs just kinda give out. Yeah. When it gets bad, I need a cane to walk. And then, fatigue, really bad fatigue.
Speaker 31: I'm going to begin the exam Today on your neck, I'm gonna be looking for the same thing that I look for in my other patients who have MS, frozen shoulder. I analyze their spine in a way even though they're different disorders, and I find a very similar outcome in the examination.
Speaker 32: On October of 09, my car flipped about 5 times, and they found me in the back seat. My neck was broken. Face was fractured. One of the issues that I'm having other than getting out of bed and, changing my clothes is that if I want to move around the house And put on a light like in this case, if I were to put on this light switch, I have to go like this and it's painting, but I'll be able to move it Once I get there, and then I'll have to assist my hand to bring it back down.
Speaker 31: Is that all you can do? Frozen shoulder is a puzzling condition. The patient is unable to bring their arm up alongside their head. They only have about 90 to 120 degrees of what we call abduction. All right.
So slowly, let's go ahead and abduct the arms. Bring them up over your head. Right there becomes difficult. Yeah. So bringing it up alongside your ears is very difficult.
Speaker 22: It's not going.
Speaker 31: They do physical therapy that makes them worse, that makes them hurt more and sleep less. Also, a lot of the patients get the injection, which is ineffective most of the time. It keeps getting done, but it's not fixing the problem. And I thought to myself, well, it may be a weakening or malfunction of the spinal accessory nerve. And now I have this paradigm that I built in my head that the skull and the spine support a part of the nervous system that runs the shoulder.
And go ahead and bring the arms up, see if they'll come all the way up.
Speaker 15: You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 31: Yeah. I'm not kidding. This thing that had been around for so long that people knew nothing about was being resolved with this Chiropractic adjustment. And that patient came into my office. She said to me, I've decided to have surgery.
And I said to her, well, I don't think that that's gonna fix your problem, but I totally understand that you want out of this pain. Before you jump to this, I wanna examine you in a new way. I analyze people in the same way that I analyze a frozen shoulder for this lifting and
Speaker 8: I don't see any reason why patients like James can't get better. The very least, Improve their quality of life while they have this disease. They don't have to become a cripple or invalid simply because they've been given this label that they have this disease. You should never become your disease because in the moment you do, you're dead. Okay.
Bring your knee up, please. Let me have your arm up and locked right here. I'm gonna pull, resist, pull it. Okay. Pull tight.
You're a human being, vital, Healthy human being, and I have this disease. And you work like mad to improve your lifestyle, your diet, Your attitude, your spirituality, all those things that go into making up a completely balanced human being. We've gotten so far away from that medically. We are so out of touch. Instead of listening to our body's communication, we give it drugs to say, shut up, I don't want to hear it.
We suppress it. Right there, you feel it? See how it weakens?
Speaker 19: Yes.
Speaker 8: This work maximizes function, maximizes performance. It predicts injuries before they happen. So many athletes, when they retire, their bodies are just all broken down. They're cripples. That doesn't have to be the case.
Speaker 7: Score of 98. Cotton. Stockton falls down, and Stockton is hurt.
Speaker 33: He's hurt. We thank him.
Speaker 7: Trust me, he is hurt.
Speaker 8: What's been shocking to me is just how fast The body is capable of healing. I mean, this body is an amazing system, and we're just barely scratching the surface of what's possible.
Speaker 34: Not everybody has that treatment. Not everybody can be kept balanced like you kept me balanced, so things didn't have a chance to grate and wear down any road. Something bad happened like the sprained ankle, I didn't have to adapt around it. We got it back online, and and I could play not only pain free, but free from the worry that I was gonna hurt myself worse.
Speaker 8: I know you fought some battles for me.
Speaker 34: Yeah. Because I was committed to the treatment. And I thought everybody should be committed to the treatment. I mean, this works. If something works, why aren't we pushing it?
Why aren't we pushing it?
Speaker 8: And my position has always been that I trust the proprioceptive system, the nervous system. Once we reset the joint, reactivate the muscles, walking and running becomes therapeutic. And we saw that Numerous times through your career.
Speaker 34: That might be the greatest service that that really you did for all of us because you know where your body's go going. You have control of your body. And I think you'll survive even even the most rigorous seasons.
Speaker 35: Okay. Peekaboo has got to take advantage of her smooth push now. Her powerful powerful German rivals led by Katja Eisinger who purposely chose later start numbers assuming the track would speed up. You're also counting on course
Speaker 12: As an athlete,
Speaker 36: You rely on your body for everything. It becomes your needs. It's your vehicle. I can remember when I first met doctor Beeler, I found out that much stuff was shut down, and I had so many imbalances.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna pull, and you'll use this. Pull tight. Pull up. Nice.
Speaker 36: I had some really profound adjustments and some really amazing experiences with him, and I knew I could then go out and actually legitimately ask of my body to give me an Olympic performance.
Speaker 1: 1st gate you went by. Peekaboo Street into the lead.
Speaker 8: The neatest thing is when you see a patient who has given up And they realize they can be better and actually start to cry. That's powerful, And it doesn't get any better than that.
Speaker 37: I'd been suffering from major knee pain. I broke my right leg. Had a rod inserted. Nothing was working. Basically, I was skiing on 1 leg all year long.
I came in just with the attitude of anything could help because I love it. I love skiing. I was in so much pain, and then I got worked on by you. I got off the table and instantly pain free. That was pretty amazing.
Speaker 8: It frustrates me to no end When I'm ostracized by the medical profession, where they look down their noses at me, where they they tell people that I'm a quack or that the only reason I get results because it's placebo, which means the patient believes they're gonna get better, they get better.
Speaker 34: I looked into your office to get adjusted before a road trip, and you asked me about the ankle. I said, well, what's I said, don't worry about it. It's tendinitis. It's under control. We're handling it.
And we said, well, you mind if I touch it? I said, you can try to touch it, but you can't you're not gonna find anything. You can't palpate it because nobody else could.
Speaker 8: And you asked me if you had to believe in it for it to work. Remember that?
Speaker 34: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I said no.
Speaker 34: Yeah. This is Faith Ealing. We're in deep trouble because I wasn't a believer.
Speaker 38: That's true.
Speaker 34: For sure.
Speaker 8: I've been called a quack. I've been called a charlatan. I've been told I diagnose things that don't exist, That I treat conditions that I shouldn't be treating, that I'm a liability to patients. As a chiropractic physician, I've spent my entire career Fighting for the right to practice. We're up against the most powerful lobbies there there are, the medical profession, the pharmaceuticals.
And consistently, we're fighting To prevent legislation to carve us out of insurance reimbursement, it gets exhausting. But right now, we're we are fighting
Speaker 29: As a medical student, I don't think I really ever heard chiropractic medicine come up ever in my formal medical training. And I really didn't know what to think of it. In general, they just sounded to be high risk and unestablished.
Speaker 39: Many people have said, you know, I don't go to a chiropractor, because I'm afraid I've I've heard that maybe chiropractors cause stroke. The research does not say that whatsoever. What they determined after I looked at these thousands of cases is that an individual is no more likely to suffer a stroke after a chiropractic visit than they are after a medical visit.
Speaker 40: What we do now know is that people who have the Pathology, which is called a dissection in the arteries and the neck. You develop neck pain because the artery is separating. That inevitably leads to a stroke, And it doesn't matter whose office you go into because, like, somebody who has a heart attack, you can be feeling great. You develop some arm pain. The process is the same, and it's just as devastating.
When you get a heart attack, you haven't got anybody to blame.
Speaker 15: Medicare is the the largest health care system. And in general, people are very satisfied with it. Our seniors Go to their doctors, and they're covered for most conditions. And with chiropractic being a more natural approach to care, many seniors would like to start there first. The problem is that with Medicare, they only cover 3 codes for doctors of chiropractic out of 10,000.
That means the patient is limited by what they can get reimbursed for. The insurance industry is often run by medical physicians. So the payment scheme that they've developed tends to go towards that direction. It doesn't really make anyone a lot of money if a patient can go to a doctor of Chiropractic, get some naturally based treatment such as an adjustment, some nutritional advice, and talk about exercise. There's not a lot of money in that, But it's awfully good for the patient.
Speaker 41: We look at someone from head to toe, not only what their pathology is, if Ares have been injured, but what their functional integrity is. It comes back to observations that were made over a 100 years ago, where neurological function was increased Without using drugs or surgery, specifically by an adjustment, since that time, it has been known that the consequence of chiropractic applications have been based on the nervous system. We really didn't understand the brain Over the last 100 years, as much as we understand it today
Speaker 24: When you start looking at the brain, your treatment protocols radically Change. We were taught to use certain anti anxiety medications, like Valium and Xanax. But as soon as I started scanning people, I Stop using them because I saw that Valium and Xanax and medications like that pretty much work Like alcohol in the brain. And over time, they cause suppression of brain activity. And I go, oh, I'm making people worse.
See, if you don't look at the you have no accountability for making your patients worse. Psychiatry is broken. Psychiatrists make more money if they see 4 people in an hour. So So it's become 4, 6 people in an hour. Here's the medicine.
What are your side effects? Does it work? Let's try this. Okay. I'll see you back for a $5 for 15 minutes in a month.
Speaker 26: Our time is up. Okay.
Speaker 24: It's crazy. It it is just a total crazy mess. In order to really make proper diagnosis, you need to understand their biology and their psychology. How they get along with other people? What's social situation in.
What are their spiritual beliefs? Not necessarily religious beliefs. Why do they care? What does their life mean? And when you treat them, again, In a biological, psychological, social, spiritual way.
85% of psychiatric medications are prescribed by non psychiatric physicians, your family doctor, your OBGYN, or your interns, and and I actually think they don't do a very good job. The problem with medicine is we make symptoms, depression, diagnosis. When you do that with depression. You dishonor it because depression is a symptom. It's got many different causes, and you end up giving a one treatment fits everybody approach, and it's really no better than placebo.
But that's what we do in psychiatry, and it hurts people.
Speaker 42: So we wanna just
Speaker 43: have you stand up. We're gonna get your blood pressure and your pulse rate standing up, and we'll see how what happens. Medical doctors, they're not putting their hands on patients. I think that that's really lacking in medicine. They go through so many rotations.
They kinda become desensitized. We attract patients that have been Basically, I don't know if chewed up by the medical system is the right way to describe that or the fact that they've exhausted everything in the medical system. I had a patient fly out, from New York, basically on the verge of suicide.
Speaker 30: The last two and a half years, I've been full of pain. If it's not my head, it's my knee. If not my back. It's something else. It travels.
It moves. It messes with my heart. It messes with my head. And and most of all, it's gotten to the point where it's, beating my soul up. I'll say it till I die, and hopefully that's not tomorrow.
I feel worse now than I did two and a half years ago when I started seeing, I'm told some of the best people in the business. I can't get a straight answer at anybody. One medication does one thing while another does something else. Combined, they do nothing. And ultimately, my quality of life, doctor, is to the point where I cannot live this way.
I want to do something about it. I want my life back.
Speaker 43: I see you're on a couple of different medicines, Lyrica, Ambien, OxyContin, etcetera. Besides giving you prescription therapy, is there any other plan moving forward?
Speaker 30: The one, plan moving forward that, My consortium of doctors is suggesting, in fact, trying to ram down my throat at this point, is spinal fusion. They're convinced that my problems start and end There.
Speaker 10: The medical profession looks from a pathoanatomical point of view when they look at an X-ray and MRI. In other words, they wanna see something wrong with the anatomy. That's why they can find a degenerator or abnormal herniated disc and say, there. Right there. I can prove it to you.
CCC on this X-ray MRI, And they'll do their fusion, but what do they do? They fuse you in this line position. Your physiology, your functioning has not improved whatsoever. Failed back surgery is so prevalent now that the insurance has its own code, failed back surgery syndrome. And what they're doing is just drugging them, Shooting them, cutting them, and then we see the aftereffects.
I had a man come into my office the other day who had 8 back surgeries.
Speaker 19: He didn't need one of them.
Speaker 10: 50 to 90% of back surgeries fail according to medical men themselves.
Speaker 3: I had a dream where I woke up in cold sweats, and I was in hell. All the people there with me in hell were all the patients that received surgical procedures from me that didn't really need it, and their lives were destroyed because of it. Every time I go into the operating room, it's uncomfortable in many ways because you're turning the patient's lives upside down, And you're worried, is this going to really provide the relief for this patient that we've hoped for?
Speaker 1: There is an epidemic of back pain. It's a $1,000,000,000 issue. We wind up with people not being able to function. They get depressed. They get hooked on pain medications of which are freely available.
If there had been proper organized coordinated intervention, an integrated kind of an approach to that person They have saved that individual from what I consider to be a life of despair.
Speaker 44: I agree
Speaker 10: with you.
Speaker 44: I think a large percentage of those patients would have been helped by earlier intervention, more holistic approach as far as diet, exercise.
Speaker 3: We have patients
Speaker 30: James in every possible way has helped me because He's done everything the polar opposite of me. Every time I turn around, another doctor is throwing yet another painkiller
Speaker 25: at me. And I'm only too glad to oblige.
Speaker 26: The patients want the shortest route to the quickest fix, which is a pill. A lot of physicians want the shortest route to the quickest fix, which is to get them a prescription, get them out and get the next patient in. And that's where the trouble begins.
Speaker 30: He's hopefully gonna support me through the next phase, which is my detox. And frankly, I'm very nervous about it. But on the other hand, I know that in order to, get
Speaker 25: to where you guys want me to be, I need
Speaker 30: to go through that phase.
Speaker 14: Is this the first time you've ever done a detox?
Speaker 45: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 14: Purdue Pharma, the company who puts this drug OxyContin into the marketplace, plead guilty that they misrepresented the addictive aspects of this drug. They said that it was less addictive than other drugs already on the market where it turns out it's more. They pay a $600,000,000 Fine. But when you look at the amount of money they've made on this, it's astronomical. And here's a drug that now took people who had back pain, a manageable problem.
They get put on this drug to try to control that problem. And next thing you know, they substitute their back pain for a drug addiction.
Speaker 46: And, James, what was different for your experience about how you went about treating it or addressing your own health Then what Brian had gone through.
Speaker 19: When I was diagnosed, it took about a year to come up with a diagnosis. My neurologist gave me the different drug options, And I didn't wanna get on him.
Speaker 30: I almost feel guilty of of having not been that person that he was who obviously had some sort of fortitude and brass that made him say, no. I'm not going there. Whereas me, I'm like,
Speaker 7: what do you got?
Speaker 30: Okay. Bring it on. I'll take it. I feel, on a certain level, ostracized because I'm, let's face it, a junky, which a week from now, I'm gonna address. I don't expect The detox to go smoothly?
Speaker 47: We face a tremendous dilemma looking at chronic pain as a major social, medical problem in this country. We have to do something for patients who are suffering. We want to keep our population functional. Opioid drugs are a potential tool. There are people who can use these drugs, go back to work, have good family lives, the whole thing.
But we don't know who they are. We haven't a clue. It's just a matter of luck in prescribing. In no other country in the world Is this going on?
Speaker 48: The process for Brian is gonna be long term. It's not just pain that we're dealing with here. We're dealing with a lot of emotions. One of them is denial. The other one's Guilt and anger.
Speaker 30: Here's my deal. I am starting to think I've already lost the battle. My self esteem, which is Pretty much a floor mat anyway. It's now lower because why? Because I came here to get off everything.
That's not gonna happen. I'm gonna walk out of here at best, An OxyContin freak. I'm aware of it. Okay? Okay.
But I
Speaker 48: think he's aware that he's a drug addict, and he's on a lot of the doctor's appointment. And I'm gonna go back to the doctor's appointment. And I'm gonna go back to the doctor's appointment.
Speaker 28: The
Speaker 30: I'm not passing the buck, people. I'm culpable, but I'm not fully to blame.
Speaker 26: The number of overdose that we see in this country now from The drug abuser today is not gonna be poorly bathed and pull up to my ER in a shopping cart with flies all over the place. They're gonna look like you and me, and and and the lay public does not understand that. They don't understand addiction. Most physicians don't understand addiction.
Speaker 11: The influence that the pharmaceutical industry has on health care In general, is all inclusive. They have their hands in every aspect of healthcare, and they have their agenda being promoted through every level of health care. You're talking about very deep pockets, and you're talking about very highly politically active companies.
Speaker 7: Merck is invading the planet. They are everywhere buying off politicians and pushing their dangerous Cancer virus vaccine that's been proven that 18,000 plus people have had adverse reactions, autoimmune diseases, and even death. A big Pharmaceutical companies like Merck, like GlaxoSmithKline, like Pfizer, all of whom
Speaker 14: have been sued for 1,000,000,000 of dollars, paid all these 1,000,000,000 of dollars of fines, which become The cost of doing business for them, basically. The government could go in there and say, we're cutting you out of our programs. We're cutting you out of our Medicare program.
Speaker 22: We're
Speaker 14: cutting you out of Medicaid, but they won't do it because they need the other drugs they have. It's literally another form of addiction that they have. But the consequence of all this is that people are dying.
Speaker 26: The last time I checked, we're the most sophisticated health care system on the planet. So is this really a public health problem or is this a Wall Street growth initiative? And the truth of the matter is is it's probably both.
Speaker 49: The justice department and our law enforcement partners have reached an historic $3,000,000,000 resolution With the pharmaceutical manufacturer GlaxoSmithKline
Speaker 28: GSK Salesforce bribed physicians to prescribe GSK products Using every imaginable form of high priced entertainment.
Speaker 49: This action constitutes the largest health care settlement in United States history.
Speaker 14: Now to you and I, $3,000,000,000 sounds like an enormous amount of money. Quite frankly, it is. But when you compare that to the profits of the drugs that GlaxoSmithKline were fined for as far as their practices. It's a cost of doing business at that point, but lives are lost in the meantime. I mean, people are dying.
Nobody goes to jail.
Speaker 11: As a pharmaceutical rep, I had a six Figure salary before I was 30 years old. I had a company car. I had a stock portfolio. I don't have any of those things now. Now I have a bunch of karma to reverse.
Now I have A conscience issue that I have to deal with.
Speaker 28: Our beautiful little girl, Candace, died by hanging 4 days after ingesting 100 milligrams of Zoloft. Found Jacob hanging from the rafter in our attic.
Speaker 50: It wasn't the disease that caused my daughter to viciously mutilate ourself. It was the drug.
Speaker 26: These parents believed the drug companies had evidence there was a risk, but never told them.
Speaker 11: They weren't given good information. They had no idea that they were taking a risk that this child would go into their room and hang themselves. They were 7 years old? How many 7 year olds hang themselves? They don't if they're not on these drugs.
Speaker 14: The whole game is rigged. Vioxx, put out by Merck, killed more people than US soldiers that died in the Vietnam War. They are smart enough to understand the implication of their actions. They're smart enough to understand that they can be destroying families, That they can literally be killing people. What kind of a human being does that?
It's one thing when people make a mistake. It's another thing when it's volitional.
Speaker 51: The economics of a drug company are are pretty basic. They're a corporation put together to make a profit for the investors. But if a drug company came up with a product that would cure a problem, every time they treated someone, they would lose part of their Because that person would not have to come back. They would not be able to make a profit. They don't want anyone else to have it, so they would hide
Speaker 11: One of the things that I was trained to do when I worked with Bristol Myers Squibb was how to psychologically profile a physician in order to know how to approach that physician and best influence their prescribing habits. I very often would know better what a doctor's prescribing habits were than the doctor himself. So the way that I was very effective and the way that most reps today are very effective is simply through bribing physicians through the things that they like.
Speaker 26: It was not uncommon for me to be chauffeur driven around in a limousine, have flown in on a, private jet, name my price and stay at the top of the 4 seasons. That happened.
Speaker 11: What doctors should be aware of and what I'd Like psychiatrists, in particular, to be aware of, the pharmaceutical industry doesn't have any respect For you. Behind closed doors, they're talking about which drug whore to get to promote their products. And that's what they're calling doctors. They have no respect for their whores No matter how much they pay them.
Speaker 28: If physicians are following guidelines, and that always means prescribing medications, we Get more money. So we're talking about a major incentive to just get that prescription written and just convince people to take their pills no matter how lousy it makes them feel.
Speaker 26: Many times, patients do come in asking us or telling us what it is they feel that they need. And oftentimes, those medications come with a substantial side effect profile or the potential to create addiction. So as a physician, we're no longer really physicians. We are providers. And our patients are really no longer patients.
They're subject enrollees and a third party health care system which has a legitimate stake in how we as physicians spend their money. The way we solve their problem in the short run, is through the prescription. And while that may be indeed a quick fix and a happy customer. We can't assume that our patients understand the concept of downright addiction. They understand That I give them a pill, they feel good and their pain goes away without necessarily understanding the longer term repercussions.
The central tenet the physician patient relationship is trust. And if that trust is breached, then we have a real problem on our hands, and we're starting to see that now.
Speaker 27: We get brainwashed, and we come to believe that things like chiropractor and naturopathy and acupuncture is all quackery. As physicians, we have become basically indentured servants to the medical insurance industry and Prostitutes for the pharmaceutical industry without even realizing it or thinking about it. And you cannot see a person for 5 minutes or even 10 minutes or even 15 And just hand out a pill and expect them to get better when, you know, really their depression is caused because they have, you know, a husband who's lost their job and his son who's in crisis, And they're working 2 different jobs and not sleeping. That's the underlying issue. It's not a deficit of Prozac.
Speaker 11: Children are the largest expansion market available to the pharmaceutical industry, bar none. Children have nowhere to go. They don't know how to put into words. They don't know how communicate the side effects that they're experiencing. They don't know to relate them to the drugs.
Their behavior escalates or their maladaptive behaviors escalate, and they get more drugs added to them or they get the dose increased, and then they become delusional, and they hallucinate, and all kinds things happen to them, and they don't even know how to articulate it to their caretakers. It becomes an add on business technique to sell more drugs and to have lifelong customer bases. All kiddos have health insurance. They're either covered by Private insurance or they're covered by Medicaid. So therefore, you have a guaranteed reimbursement in terms of insurance And you have a refill, a guaranteed refill consumer because the doctors are going to encourage the patients to refill their prescriptions.
The parents are gonna make them refill their prescriptions. So this is a marketing ploy in trying to get our children on drugs because they have recognized that not only Are they all covered by insurance,
Speaker 33: but
Speaker 11: they're lifelong customers if they can get them on drugs at an early age?
Speaker 49: Utah's division of child and family services once tried to force The parents of a boy named Parker Jensen to have him undergo chemotherapy for Ewing sarcoma. That polarizing highly publicized case Began more than 5 years ago and has continued since then in the courts.
Speaker 52: A federal court yesterday threw out a lawsuit from the parents of Parker Jensen, but the boy's family says their battle is far from over.
Speaker 53: I remember the call. The oral surgeon said that you need to come on in, and we need to discuss the results. And he sat us down, and he says He says your son has cancer. And how devastating that was to hear The your 12 year old has cancer?
Speaker 54: When that MRI came out, there was nothing there. They could not find anything in the MRI, and that was our first kind of, I guess, relief. Like, oh, you know, it's not as bad as they had said it to be, and they did, you know, a a bone scan and that came out negative, and they did a CT scan, and they did chest X rays and all these things to try to find some cancer. And every one of those tests came out negative, yet The doctor still kept saying, well, we still expect you to come, you know, Thursday morning to start chemotherapy.
Speaker 55: He said I had invisible cancer and that I had to do chemotherapy anyways.
Speaker 56: We saw all these efforts to try to just rush and and railroad the Jensens and Parker into chemo. Now that's not Normally, what the way doctors behave. Almost a year of chemo with bad side effects is not something that Responsible parents would agree to without being satisfied. This is really the right thing.
Speaker 55: My dad printed off a huge list of all the chemotherapy drugs. I remember looking through all of them, seeing what they did, side effects of each drug, how many there were.
Speaker 53: On a lot of the drugs that were just gonna make you a little sick as we were told. We found out 2% of the people die, just flat out die. Others have major organ damage, tissue damage, brain damage, sterility.
Speaker 56: Initially, we thought maybe it's just ego.
Speaker 53: The doctor that we weren't supposed to see, but we happen to see had sponsored a clinical trial for a particular disease, Ewing sarcoma, And it was about ready to be shut down unless they got more 12 year old white male subjects. The pathologist in the lab was pressured into assigning a Ewing sarcoma. They haven't even taken a blood test yet, And they were forcing chemotherapy, and they reported to the state that, he had 2 weeks to live.
Speaker 56: If people know That they have that ability, that power, it's just a matter of time before somebody will abuse it.
Speaker 55: My parents have always known best, and I can't really ever say that they've ever made a mistake, parenting wise.
Speaker 53: Early on, he looks up at Barbara Knight, and he says, Mom, dad, I'm not sick. And it it just solidified in us
Speaker 56: that we're right.
Speaker 53: He is not sick, And we gotta fight this.
Speaker 33: Now the case goes to the state court and the federal court of appeals where the Jensens hope There is a final decision on whether their right to decide what is best for their son was violated.
Speaker 55: I didn't want chemotherapy because looking back on all the tests, like, they're telling me that they're negative. The doctors are saying that they're negative. Everyone's saying that it was clean. I don't want this, but I want them to just leave us alone.
Speaker 53: That's when we were threatened that, they would take him away, and We had 3 days to get our case together against the state. We finally found the Brzezinski Institute. We were gonna take Parker to have this second opinion. When they found out, They issued warrants for our arrest. Little did we know that, the fight would be World War Jensen.
Speaker 44: Here, the fundamental charge was that you were somehow negligent parents. Negligent because the government knows best.
Speaker 53: We would get to a point of disparity Where you have the feds looking for you, you have the local police, you have the state police. We're basically in exile because we have these warrants out for us.
Speaker 54: 1 night, Darren said, If I go to jail, you are not to bring Parker back. You are not to turn him in. And Darren was charged with kidnapping his own son and because we were neglecting to treat him.
Speaker 53: For several weeks, my family was on the lam. I was in jail. I mean, I'm willing to be responsible if I make a wrong decision. That's what parents are for.
Speaker 1: Darren and Barbara Jensen charged with kidnapping and medical neglect because they refused chemotherapy for their son.
Speaker 55: What really kills me is at the end, they said that we didn't win. We just didn't It
Speaker 53: was either. Yeah. Yeah. It was our non loss.
Speaker 45: To change completely how we treat not only cancer, but many other illnesses, we will not treat in the name of the disease, like, for instance, lung cancer or Breast cancer within the genes which are causing cancer.
Speaker 57: On the 20th October 2011, I Had a brain tumor or seizure at my office in Melbourne, Australia. I was rushed to hospital And then put into intensive care later that day. From that day, my journey of this brain tumor started. We went and saw doctor Charlie Teo in Sydney, and he looked at me in the eye and said, whatever you're doing, it's not working. And it was one of the most frightening things I've ever heard in my life.
A very close friend of mine Svet, you've got to go to doctor Stanislav Buzynski. And here we are today with the greatest news, which is There is a reduction in the tumor, and we are on the journey of a miracle.
Speaker 45: This is the baseline scan, which is dated April 19, before the treatment. This white cloud, this is the tumor growing back, despite that it was removed. Then the upper scan, which is May 29 scan, does not show the new tumors anymore, his tumors completely disappear. Basically, we are operating with molecular switches, which are regulating activity of the genes Involving Cancer. And Anteoplasts exist in our body, they work as molecular switches, they turn off the activity of the genes which are causing cancer, Which means that as long as you have right amount of anti emplacements in the body according to our hypothesis, you shouldn't get cancer and every cancer obviously has A set of genes which is causing the tumor to grow.
Speaker 58: My son, Dustin, was only two and a half years old at the time. He was diagnosed with a brain tumor the size of a golf ball. The doctors told us Dustin had only a few months to live. In April of 1994, we visited doctor Stanislav Brzezinski in Houston. An MRI 6 weeks after we started doctor Pruzynski's treatment revealed no tumor.
To this day, it has not reappeared. You look at Dustin right now. He's a happy, healthy 4 year old who has outlived his prognosis.
Speaker 45: I didn't look into medicine to make money. I looked at medicine to help people, and that's what I'm doing. You cannot pay me enough to do what I am doing and go through years of I could not really profit much from this because, obviously, antiplasm which are in clinical tests are not yet approved for commercial use. And I have to give them free to the patients when we teach patients. There's no financial incentive.
There's only financial disaster if you look into this. To approve single medication in the United States cost the average of 1 and a half $1,000,000,000. I must be crazy. If I stop doing this, I've been looking like a coward. I am not coward.
Okay? I would like to do whatever I feel is right, and I have I proved many, many times that I am right. I approve this to the most powerful agency in the United States, which is food and drug administration. They are trying to put me out of circulation, put me to prison for life. They hardly lost.
Speaker 53: And why can't patients who have advanced cancer seek the medical, treatment of their choice?
Speaker 51: Drug companies will not go to market with a drug that cures. That principle holds true for cancer. If there is a cure for cancer, everybody in this huge society that has been developed Would be without a job, and so it makes you question the motivation.
Speaker 59: I did not want to undergo chemotherapy, which, I had a new name for, Killam therapy.
Speaker 45: There is no way the chemotherapy can Cure malignant brain tumors. It doesn't happen. They did something good for a while. Now is the time that they should gradually fade away because They cannot cure.
Speaker 59: I don't want the FDA to take this right from me. I came 18 years ago from communist Romania. And the tyrant's dictator, Ceausescu, never stopped a doctor from treating anybody. How can we have something like this in United states.
Speaker 13: With the people he's seeing, many, many of them are dying on the waiting list trying to get access to a treatment When all other treatment in the United States has failed, and this is something that we've seen over and over again, and the FDA and the government is actually standing in the way And sentencing them to death by saying, hey. We have to approve you to do an experimental treatment even though All other options have failed. Everything the system does is screaming at us. Do not innovate. Just Stand in line.
Speaker 28: I have a report from my family physician which tells how well I am doing. My tumors are leaving my body. Now the FDA is saying to me, no. Your doctor is a criminal. He should be put in jail, and he needs to be shut down.
This is criminal.
Speaker 13: Here are these people that would rather you die than to try something that they disapprove of. They would rather you go to your grave. They'd rather see you in a morgue with a toe tag on than to see you get cured. Because if they don't like the clear cure, if they don't bless the cure, They don't want you to have it. People ask me all the time about Ashland, who's my 10 year old with autism, and said, well, Lamar, what happened?
I said, well, what the start of it was 2, very serious reactions to 2 different sets of vaccines. And they said, well, how can that be? I said, well, did you know that there is a separate Federal court system for vaccines. Right? And their their mouth always drops open as if, well, What do you mean vaccines are safe?
We don't have a separate court system in the United States of America for vaccines. I said, we absolutely do. When's the last time that you had informed consent? When you were given vaccines, were you given the list of ingredients? Do you read your food labels?
Nowadays, people say, yeah. I read my food labels. I wanna know what's going on my body. Have you read the ingredients? Well, no, I haven't.
Have you read the possible reactions? Because when you read, what my daughter experienced is on the label. But my pediatrician believed that it
Speaker 8: was so safe that it
Speaker 13: was impossible to have a reaction. That's terrifying to me.
Speaker 52: Ashlyn was born perfectly healthy. She was perfect and then we started to take her in for her vaccines On schedule 2, 4, 6 months. After every set of vaccine, she had a reaction. At 4 months, she had a high pitched scream that was just Persistent and didn't stop. She continued to develop normally up until about 2 years And at 2 years of age, language stopped.
And that's when probably the regression in autism started.
Speaker 19: Daddy did it.
Speaker 57: Daddy did it?
Speaker 13: Wow. That's a good good using your
Speaker 24: words there, sister. Bad daddy.
Speaker 13: If we would have been given the vaccine label, it describes the textbook vaccine reactions. Once we read that label, it was just amazing to see that this was all there in black and white and should have easily been caught. From that point on, I think, is really when we got our real schooling in American medicine and what they don't tell you.
Speaker 51: In 1986, The vaccine companies were having great financial problems and many going broke because of the suits for injury and or death of children receiving vaccines. So Congress passed a law that prohibits American citizens from suing vaccine companies for any reason, including death. They established a separate court system to hear the cases. That court receives 70Β’ of every vaccine that's been administered since 1970. Literally, 1,000,000,000 of dollars have been spent in paying off The families of these injured children, the requirement is that they must not tell that they were given any money or how much money they received.
Speaker 13: It's hard to believe sometimes she's so sick.
Speaker 51: This is a travesty. There is no industry in America other than the vaccine companies That is immune from suits. We haven't given that guarantee to any other form of industry, and it certainly should not be given to an industry that the health and welfare of our children is so dependent upon.
Speaker 12: Evan, what did you do at Kristen's house. What? Did you play with blocks?
Speaker 27: No talking.
Speaker 12: Bevan was diagnosed with autism. They said I would just have to come to grips with the fact that he was going to go to school and get a job or live someplace where he needed help. Diet doesn't matter, and, you know, vaccines have no play in this.
Speaker 8: Vaccinations We're a huge advent in the history of health care. Saved millions of lives, but we've gotten out of control with the I think when I was a kid, I had to have 6 vaccinations before I entered school. Now these kids are getting upwards of 26 vaccinations. That's just plain insanity in my world. You're putting all that stuff into a child's body.
What about kids who have hypersensitivity to The mercury that's put in vaccines to preserve them. Woah. Woah. There's gonna be a certain number of kids that are gonna have these dramatic reactions. A lot of neurological conditions are caused because of the reactions they have to those.
Speaker 60: Where are we? Doctor Tony. Doctor Tony. I go inside? Yeah.
Speaker 42: We made an adjustment, and you could see that kid's Power come on. It was like his brain turned on for the 1st
Speaker 60: time. Yay. Yeah. Like a What's that? A truck.
Speaker 35: A truck?
Speaker 12: It was such little adjustments to his nervous system to make such Huge gains.
Speaker 42: It was the adjustment that got the stress off of his system that turned his brain back on that allowed him to go back into that growth and development stage that a kid innately should be in.
Speaker 60: Catching the hat. Catching the hat.
Speaker 12: His 3rd birthday, he had maybe Five words?
Speaker 47: Five words. Yeah.
Speaker 12: A month later, it was pages of words. Where are we going? What are we doing?
Speaker 60: To the bus.
Speaker 12: We're going to the bus. Where does the bus take you?
Speaker 60: Take the Mom, I don't think I got
Speaker 18: this slow.
Speaker 12: Oh, the bus takes you to school. Seeing the vacant look in Evan's eye And knowing that something wasn't right and seeing that go away is incredible. Hi.
Speaker 61: How are you? Good.
Speaker 62: These individual cases cannot be considered to be scientific proof. You can't generalize from them, and yet They open up in our minds an enlarged sense of what is possible. What if chiropractic helps 10%? A randomized controlled trial says there's no benefit. But for that individual patient, there's
Speaker 29: a benefit.
Speaker 18: How do
Speaker 45: you spell Evan?
Speaker 60: E what? We Yeah.
Speaker 48: A
Speaker 60: Uh-huh.
Speaker 62: So how do we deal with that? 1st, we never claim genuine evidence That chiropractic has been scientifically proven to help the majority of cases of whatever the visceral condition is. 2nd, it is legitimate, assuming it is spoken honestly, to say to a patient or a potential patient, there are some individuals with this condition who appear to have been helped by chiropractic care. It only takes 1 white crow to prove that not all crows are black.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty simple equation. Chiropractic, first medicine, second surgery, 3rd. Always the least invasive, Least harmful method first, and then you work your way up. You don't start with the surgical situation. You don't start with the side effects of medication.
You start with the possibility of the most conservative effect first.
Speaker 42: Mister Oliver here was born early. He arrived about 5 weeks early, and, the reason he did, he had a, little tiny hole in his heart, and it left blood kinda still going back through to his lungs and gave him a condition called persistent pulmonary hypertension or PPHN. So, Basically, he couldn't get enough blood through his lungs to get oxygen to the rest of his body.
Speaker 12: I'll never forget what they said to us. The first thing when we checked in was, your son is very sick. And to hear somebody tell you those words when you see him with, all the tubes and everything, it was it was pretty hard.
Speaker 42: This 6 weeks journey, we saw the absolute crazy incredibleness of modern medicine and how they can save a life. We got the most amazing life Saving emergency care there was, and we trusted them. The the doctors were incredible. And they had 2 people on him 247 making sure this machine was Perfect, and he was good. But that time, we had that burst suppression show up where his brain had that spikes of seizure activity and then went dormant.
They were locked and loaded. They said he's gonna have seizures. He's gonna have delays.
Speaker 12: And they told us that he had a 50.50 chance of having cerebral palsy And, at best that he was just gonna be severely developmentally delayed.
Speaker 42: So at that time with the seizures and the Activity there, they wanted us to keep him on phenobarbital. Well, it was just the craziest situation in the world for me because I am a Pediatric chiropractor, my whole life's focused in neurology and taking care of these kids with seizures and delays, and and here I was being told that he was gonna be certainly one of them. Just like we had faith in them to save his life, we had 100% faith in chiropractic and what I could do to get his brain put back together and to let his nervous system heal. There's studies that show that phenobarbital just destroys a child's IQ. It destroys their lives.
We made the choice not to do that.
Speaker 12: And it was really hard because of the same people that saved his life, and we were so, so grateful for them. And, you know, I mean, they gave us our son. It was really hard to then Question what they were saying.
Speaker 42: We knew what those drugs did to people, and, we knew that they didn't they didn't allow for this. We knew that chiropractic could give him life back. Throughout that course of time, as Oliver was in the hospital, they watched me like a hawk. They thought, like, I was going to adjust him and his head was gonna spin around and, like, it was some crazy wild unscientific based thing I was doing. We literally had to almost be secretive about When I would work on my own dang son, yet when I would ask them, what are you gonna do for him?
Well, we need to keep him on phenobarbital.
Speaker 61: A, b, d,
Speaker 60: e, and g.
Speaker 42: Oliver's bill at the Hospital for all that they did was over $1,000,000. If we continue with what they do, phenobarbital and the 3, 4 other medications that they wanted to keep him on, Oliver would have become a lifelong customer of that business. So we woulda had to try this drug and then this drug and then this drug. I see it every day in here. Those are the patients I take care of.
They go through misery with that. Their job is done. Thank you. God bless you. Most amazing thing I've ever seen, saving my son's life.
Now give him to me And give him to my world, and we're gonna give him life. We're gonna get him back.
Speaker 12: By sticking with what we believed in, we have our son.
Speaker 53: We're getting ready for the start of the 40th annual Iditarod sled dog Thanks for being with us. Arrived.
Speaker 38: Chiropractors and doctors like them, they're putting their families in jeopardy. They're putting their legacies in They're putting their livelihoods in jeopardy to treat a person.
Speaker 47: Thank you.
Speaker 38: I will go to somebody like Jason West the rest of my life, But I literally had to walk through an immense amount of fear to get there. You have to walk down a path possibly you've never walked down. You have to walk into the face of adversity. I've known Lorelei for a long time, and we've, you know, got to know each other hanging out on the Iditarod trail.
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Speaker 18: When I was probably 10 years old, my mom, she was diagnosed with lupus and was being treated for lupus, and she also had rheumatoid arthritis. She took so many different medications and, eventually, as she got older, they became stronger and stronger. That added on to the depression, which she was taking medication for also, and eventually took her own life In 2004, having known that my mom had lupus And that my sister had rheumatoid arthritis. My aunt has rheumatoid arthritis. I was approaching 30, and I kind of Was waiting to experience symptoms like RA or like lupus, and I was hoping that It wouldn't hit me, but it eventually did.
They didn't know where to go. Thanks to a very good friend of mine, I heard of the West Clinic.
Speaker 38: She took what I gave her, the information, and she went to Pocatello. They found Lyme living in her. She has since gotten her sister there, Karen. They have found Lyme in her, and so it begs the question, did her mom die of Lyme disease?
Speaker 18: It's tough to know that There's a place in the world that could have helped my mom, That you could be here today, be healthy And with hope, when someone's sick and they can't find help, And there's no hope for them getting better. It's the most helpless feeling.
Speaker 38: It is a shame when a person lives in a community and can't go get treated, whether it's properly or the way they wanna be treated. Lorelei has to get out on an airplane, a small commuter plane, Fly to Anchorage, fly to Seattle, fly to Salt Lake, and either drive from Salt Lake or get to Pocatello by air. I mean, it's a massive Journey.
Speaker 18: It's a big investment. But to me, to get the right treatment, it's so worth it.
Speaker 43: People come in here and tell me how much courage it takes to be an alternative medicine patient because it's going against the societal grain.
Speaker 5: I think that your brain really does go through some sort of transformation when you have a chronic illness or you have pain. No one ever mentioned Lyme disease ever. Nobody could really tell me that there was anything wrong with me. My blood work was fine. You know, it was weird.
Speaker 63: I trusted the doctors when they said, you need your appendix out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 11: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 64: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 22: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 18: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 64: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm
Speaker 43: It's not exactly what their family recommends or it's not the norm.
Speaker 5: My daughter, she started getting headaches and stomachaches. They told me it was mono. In my gut, I knew something was wrong.
Speaker 22: When you have a daughter who can't get out of bed and you don't know why, that's frightening.
Speaker 28: Very often when patients come in, they've had every and they sort of missed
Speaker 64: the elephant in the room. Every time we ask the doctor what is the root of the problem, They said we will never understand the root of the problem. What we can do is deal with the symptoms.
Speaker 10: It's
Speaker 63: really frustrating that medical doctors won't be more open to natural medicine. When I was sick for 14 years and on antibiotics about 10 of
Speaker 28: those years. We're seeing patients that Truly have had the best healthcare money can buy. They've been to every specialist, and they're sort of missing this important piece.
Speaker 63: I had lost all faith in doctors, and I came here. And he restored my faith and hope again.
Speaker 65: When she was starting to get well, I said, She's got her life back. And then I said, wait. She never had a life, and now she has a life.
Speaker 5: Alternative treatment has not been allowed to flourish in the medical It's basically been stifled, and the doctors have to go out on a limb.
Speaker 37: Most of the
Speaker 43: time in medicine, what they're saying is is let's just block the symptoms. I'd wanna know what the symptoms are so that it helps me understand what's going on with the patient. I don't wanna block them. I wanna resolve them.
Speaker 61: This is my feeding tube. I've been on it for 3 months 1 week, they put the feeding tube in because I was just starving to death. Couldn't even suck on a mint without the pain and and it going through me. And so I didn't chew gum. I didn't drink water.
I'm nothing. Western medicine, couldn't find anything. I went to numerous doctors and my husband said, what do we do now? And she looked at him and she goes, I don't know. Go home.
She was sending me home to die. I have 4 kids and they just lost me. My family watched me just Slowly die.
Speaker 66: We had a nice long cry, and we got past that. We had to sit down and say what's going to happen when you're gone. What life is going to be like when she isn't here and what is going to be okay in her mind of how I raise our children.
Speaker 18: And
Speaker 61: They did the blood work here, and there were so many parasites. They put me right in. We started the infusions. One of the biggest things that I got when I came was hope. We'll fix this.
We will fix this. You you will be okay. We walked away knowing that I was gonna make it. You know, my husband walked away going, I'm not gonna bury my wife. We immediately started to see those treatments Working.
I have color. I have energy. I'm functioning. It's a slow process. We figured that I've had Lyme since I was little, But I get those moments.
You know? The 1st time I was able to walk back outside in the sunshine by myself alone, the simple things that we take for granted Every single day, I can remember starting to smile again. I didn't think that you could lose smiling. You do. You lose everything.
Just over 3 weeks ago, we were able to pull the feeding tube. I try and introduce, Like a new food every couple days. I am able to be up and around with the kids. I'm a mom that likes To be involved and be the room mother and to do all of that stuff, to get to be a part of it, and I haven't been able to do any of it. I mean, nothing.
Speaker 15: In the medical field, the individual doctors are often wonderful. They care for their patients. There is no question in my mind that they want to do what's best for their patient. But if they are only educated In one direction, and that is pharmacology or surgery. They simply are not going to look in other directions.
Speaker 1: When it's appropriate, Drugs are good. The bottom line is it's not applied properly. And that's my gripe. It isn't that I'm anti drug,
Speaker 50: We live in a culture where we want Results right now. You know, whether that's to pop something in the microwave and have dinner in 10 minutes or, you know, go have a surgery or pop 3 pills because, Yeah. The euphoria of feeling good for a moment, but all that's doing is masking the problem. You know, you don't need to go all the way to Iraq or Afghanistan to find combat. Combat is right here.
And if health care is about just making money, then we have lost focus of the mission.
Speaker 4: To me, the ultimate 2 questions are, why are we sick, and what do we need to do to get and stay well? The only way that we can be healthy is to be and seek out and find and stay in, as much as possible, a healthy environment. Is it possible that we're ever going to express Our full genetic potential for well-being in the industrial environment we've now created? No. Is it possible that we could reduce chronic illness, Live better, longer lives to a degree which is almost unimaginable?
Unequivocally, yes.
Speaker 10: So where do we
Speaker 4: Going for a 30 minute walk 5 days a week can reduce heart disease and diabetes and obesity by 90%. Eating some more raw fruits and vegetables, even if you keep eating the other junk, taking some simple things like omega 3 fatty acids and vitamin d, which are Pennies a day, which we know have an astronomical benefit. If you can imagine that medicine's the fire department and your house catches fire, It's wonderful. They can come and save your life. What tools do they have?
They have axes and fire hoses, drugs and surgery. But it would make no sense to call them back the next day to spray your house down again. And it would make no sense to have your house regularly sprayed down so that you didn't get a fire because the things that are useful in an emergency are not same things that provide us with our genetic requirements for nutrition, for exercise, etcetera. The focus has gone from how we live in the environment that we've created for ourselves to looking inside through a microscope to try and find out this weakness that's causing this illness. And so our well-being is totally dependent upon The quality of the ecosystem that we live in, it's not about being an environmentalist.
It's about being a humanist. As the population increases and the consumption rate increases, There has to be a point when we have to say to ourselves, is this sustainable? There's this long delay that's occurred between the consequences of our actions destroying the environment we live on and the consequence which is going to destroy us because The laws of this Earth or this universe are laws that we cannot live outside of.
Speaker 26: I think that if all physicians thought This way opened their minds up to alternatives, opened up the communication streams of who knows what where. In other words, we're conversing with Eastern medicine, for example, we're looking more at holistic approaches. We're looking at suitable alternatives, both mechanically with regards to rehabilitation therapy and, pharmaceutically, with regards to things other than prescription based drugs, we would find more alternatives, bona fide alternatives at work,
Speaker 8: to be able to offer
Speaker 26: our patients in terms of getting them better. I absolutely believe that's the case. You're starting to see it happen.
Speaker 3: There are other complementary alternative medical modalities, what they call CAM, modalities that have yet to really be clearly elucidated, But in my mind, make a lot of biologic sense, all of my patients postoperatively are getting ginger oil as well as peppermint oil in their oxygen mask. A lot of the chemical constituents of plants from all around the world have dramatic therapeutic capacity to go into the cell, go into the brain, Go into the joint and provide great anti inflammatory care.
Speaker 29: We're seeing a new generation of medical students and doctors rising up saying, how can we be more collaborative? Collaborative with alternative health, holistic health, osteopathic medicine, Other things that we don't really know about and that we don't fully understand, how can we have a dialogue? What is in the best interest of this patient? And I think when we start to do that, we're gonna learn a lot. If you were
Speaker 67: to ask me about 30 years ago when I was a medical student at the University of Pennsylvania If I were going to be seeing a chiropractor as the main health care provider in my my life, I probably would have said you were nuts. Well, after 8 years of residency, I found out what about every other surgeon finds out, which is that doing surgery is very hard on your spine. I can remember coming home at night, in so much pain. And I I remember saying to my wife, I said, I don't think I'm gonna make this. I think I'm gonna have to switch careers.
For the past 20 years, You really have become the main health care provider for what has basically kept me in practice.
Speaker 39: It's been very interesting within this profession and really within the allopathic profession who just 15 to 20 years ago was a whole different scenario in terms of their perception of chiropractic, their understanding of chiropractic, and their acceptance.
Speaker 1: The whole mindset of healthcare is starting to get refocused in a very patient centered, evidence based, directed healthcare in which the patient has choices to make. And it's the choices that they didn't have before that in my mind is gonna change the landscape of the way health care is delivering.
Speaker 44: The baby boomers pushing for all these alternative methods of care. They wanted other answers. They didn't wanna just go to a physician and have them prescribe medication and say, take this, and it's gonna get better. They wanted to know what they could do, how they could prevent further episodes.
Speaker 27: The ability to think and really problem solve in a new way, it really helps to invigorate and bring joy back into the practice.
Speaker 8: It should be a joint process of physicians from different disciplines working together to create a paradigm of what we're capable of producing in this country.
Speaker 3: Many of us are moving into this realm where it's a team. We approach problems from multiple angles just like any disease is multifaceted. It's just plain good care.
Speaker 6: Irresponsibility has taken its toll on society today, and that has to change. The time is now for other methods in health care. Number 1 is personal responsibility.
Speaker 15: Prevention is starting a lifestyle, a healthy lifestyle from when you're a teenager. How do we maintain wellness? How do we keep people healthy?
Speaker 1: We are entering into a very interesting era of patient attitude, patient empowerment, and that's why I'm so optimistic about tomorrow. If we can change the system so that the patient is empowered better and cared for better, That's what it's all about. You have to know where you came from before you know where you're going. One of the problems in chiropractic, David, the fact that this has been a singular isolated profession kept from Telling its story. We're saying that we have a right to exist as a viable health care delivery system that has been in existence since for 85 years and has proven its worth on millions and millions of people.
Why try to destroy us? Why try to boycott us? The bottom line in this whole deal is do the consumers of this country have a freedom to choose the health care provider of their choice?
Speaker 30: You know, 6 months ago, when I was, dropped off at the airport, I was asked, Pleaded, begged to come back. I'm not back, but I'm getting there. All kinds of pain, all kinds of This diagnosis, all kinds of drugs later, complete with 2 detoxes. Two stints in detox. 1 locked Down very scary one halfway house, which I got all the way out of after 1 night.
It's all by way of saying, I am on my way back. I'm getting there, and I will complete that trip in the really, really near future.
Speaker 60: Hi. My name is Evan.
Speaker 12: Yeah. Your name's Evan. And how old are you gonna be, Evan? 4. When are you gonna be 4?
Speaker 60: I don't want some of the tea. Oh, yay.
Speaker 12: What do you have on your face?
Speaker 53: I have
Speaker 60: dimples. You have dimples? I know how you used it.
Speaker 61: Where are we? We're in California. We're in
Speaker 60: Anaheim. We're going rafting. We're gonna get really wet. We can look to you after. Yeah.
Go to get wet.
Speaker 18: Hey. Go. Yep.
Speaker 3: We're recording. Yep.
Speaker 19: Thank you. Sweet. We made it to the Pyrenees, south of France. About to start the Camino de Santiago and heading towards Spain. I'm healthy.
I'm happy. Life's good.