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Saved - March 7, 2026 at 6:15 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

The treasonous conspiracy against Donald Trump and the American people. I told you last year that it has been going on for 10 years, and it was run by Obama/Brennan and co out of England, then on-shored back to the US, culminating in the Mar-a-Lago Raid and beyond. I witnessed it. See my thread below. Now new documents confirm my eyewitness account. https://t.co/2xYOjsR2AV

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

🚨Newly-released FBI documents show that after the Mar-a-Lago Raid of President's Trump's home, the FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Alan Kohler wrote an email to the FBI agents involved in the Raid instructing them to ignore the criticism and that everything was https://t.co/WaUUbHPuLK

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

In late summer 2015, a man arrived at Cambridge University to join a summer course in intelligence studies, ran by my professor Chris Andrew. His name was Alan Kohler and he was an FBI liaison with London. He previously been to Cambridge and gave presentations about FBI counter-intelligence work /1

Saved - February 27, 2026 at 8:11 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

The Hillary Clinton Plan to tie Donald Trump to Russian intelligence, aka the Russiagate Hoax https://t.co/k939K5DVzB

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

That’s why they had to come up with the “Clinton Plan” to distract from her email scandal. Comey cleared Hillary on July 5, 2016. Her polling tanked. Election only 4 months away. Soros got concerned about his investment. July 26 Hillary approved the plan to tie Donald Trump to Russian Intelligence. July 31 Comey ordered to open Crossfire Hurricane

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

As someone who's watched Hillary for over ten years, the cover-up always plays badly with the general public. When Comey cleared her on the email scandal, her polling actually dropped.

Saved - February 27, 2026 at 7:02 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

That’s why they had to come up with the “Clinton Plan” to distract from her email scandal. Comey cleared Hillary on July 5, 2016. Her polling tanked. Election only 4 months away. Soros got concerned about his investment. July 26 Hillary approved the plan to tie Donald Trump to Russian Intelligence. July 31 Comey ordered to open Crossfire Hurricane

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

As someone who's watched Hillary for over ten years, the cover-up always plays badly with the general public. When Comey cleared her on the email scandal, her polling actually dropped. https://t.co/0q39DjSZ86

Saved - February 23, 2026 at 8:23 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

The FBI paid British spy Chris Steele in British pounds to run ops against Donald Trump How considerate of them

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

-Christopher Steele's FBI codename was CROWN (see payment receipt) -Steele's boss was Richard Dearlove, former head of MI6 (British intelligence) -Dearlove and his co-conspirator Professor Chris Andrew visit the Duke of York (Prince Andrew) at the Buckingham Palace in June 2015, the start of Russsiagate -Did the Palace authorize the British off-the-books op to help Hillary in the 2016 election?

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

So the mystery appears to be solved. It’s highly likely that the reason that Epstein KNEW Stef Halper was running anti-Trump operations for both the CIA and British intelligence (see post below) is because his friend Price Andrew (Duke of York) told him. Andrew was deeply https://t.co/mJd8r5qQ3Q

Saved - February 13, 2026 at 7:02 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

The next media cover up They won't tell you that Obama lawyer Ruemmler was friends with CIA Director John Brennan, and was organizing a meeting between Brennan and Epstein in the middle of Russiagate Conspiracy against President Trump. https://t.co/UEu9CoE4vl

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

The media are so desperate to protect Obama, they are not telling you that: -Epstein was consulting his best buddy, Obama lawyer, Kathy Ruemmler, on negotiation with Obama about possible AG position -Epstein's personal lawyer Reid Weingarten was a close friend of Obama's wingman Eric Holder -Lisa Monaco was planning to visit the Epstein island with Kathy Ruemmler -Obama lawyer and Epstein buddy Ruemmler represented Susan Rice during Russiagate, and discussed it with Epstein Picture: Kathy Ruemmler, Barack Obama, Lisa Monaco, Susan Rice

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

One of biggest scandal the media is hiding from you: Obama's top lawyer Kathy Ruemmler was also Epstein's lawyer and had a long affair with his personal lawyer. She defended Epstein even after he was convicted, and was one of the executors of his estate. Ruemmler consulted

Saved - February 13, 2026 at 4:55 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

So Epstein knew back in 2018 Stefan Halper simultaneously worked for British intelligence, MI5, as well for US intelligence when he ran operations against President Trump, which is illegal. The emails show Halper spied not only on the Trump campaign, but the Trump Administration as well. Epstein implies in the emails with his lawyer that Obama knew this. It's also implied that both British AND American intel services paid Halper. I know this to be true from the Durham investigation, and other impeccable sources, but I didn't find this out until 2020--and I knew Halper at the University of Cambridge. I reported Halper to the DoJ, and worked with prosecutors to try to indict him. The DoJ were going to charge him, until "Friends In High Places" interfered. How would Epstein know about Halper's "work" against the Trump campaign and the administration on behalf of both British and US intelligence services? There are three possible explanations, it's likely to be a combination of the three. 1) Epstein was in close contact with Steve Bannon when Stef Halper was exposed. There are numerous 2018 iMessages between Epstein and Bannon discussing Halper, and how the White House was focused on Halper's role in Russiagate. That would explain "Donald focused on this bigtime" comment. 2) Epstein was close friends with Obama's top lawyer Kathy Ruemmler--did she tell him? 3) Prince Andrew had close ties with the Cambridge University group that Halper (and Christopher Steele) are part of. What did Andrew tell Epstein? The DoJ and Congress needs to subpoena Bannon, Halper, Ruemmler, Andrew, Richard Dearlove etc. about this. cc: @PamBondi @TulsiGabbard @realannapaulina

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

WHOA Eptein emailed his lawyer when CIA/British intelligence operative Stefan Halper was exposed as a spy on the Trump campaign and Administration. "Halper is the fbi informant. mi5 [British intelligence], CIA. a us citizen working for MI5 calls trump campaign insiders and tries to get info for mi5 and fbi. including after trump takes office. 1. did obama know? if a us citizen working for Britain spies. can they spy on Americans? who pays. paid. wild. Donald focused on this big time.

Saved - February 7, 2026 at 4:02 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Susan Rice's attempted cover up of the Benghazi disaster Sep 16, 2012 https://t.co/PvYTHzLUPW

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Bob: Madame Ambassador, he says that this is something that has been in the planning stages for months. I understand you have been saying that you think it was spontaneous. Are we not on the same page here? Madame Ambassador: Well, Bob, let me tell you what we understand to be the assessment at present. First of all, very importantly, as you discussed with the president, there is an investigation that the United States government will launch led by the FBI that has begun. Bob: But they are not there. Madame Ambassador: They are not on the ground yet, but they already begun looking at all sorts of evidence of various sorts already available to them and to us, and they will get on the ground and continue the investigation. So we'll want to see the results of that investigation to draw any definitive conclusions. But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is, in fact, what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals joined in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are unfortunately readily now available in Libya post revolution, and that it spun from there into something much, much more violent. Bob: But you do not agree with him that this was something that had been plotted out We several months do Madame Ambassador: not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.
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Speaker 0: Madame Ambassador, he says that this is something that has been in the planning stages for months. I understand you have been saying that you think it was spontaneous. Are we not on the same page here? Speaker 1: Well, Bob, let me tell you what we understand to be the assessment at present. First of all, very importantly, as you discussed with the president, there is an investigation that the United States government will launch led by the FBI that has begun. Speaker 0: But they are not there. Speaker 1: They are not on the ground yet, but they already begun looking at all sorts of evidence of various sorts already available to them and to us, and they will get on the ground and continue the investigation. So we'll want to see the results of that investigation to draw any definitive conclusions. But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is, in fact, what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals joined in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are unfortunately readily now available in Libya post revolution, and that it spun from there into something much, much more violent. Speaker 0: But you do not agree with him that this was something that had been plotted out We several months do Speaker 1: not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.
Saved - February 4, 2026 at 4:19 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Why Obama's lackeys are attacking @TulsiGabbard:

@DNIGabbard - DNI Tulsi Gabbard

On January 6, 2017, just days before President Trump took office, DNI Clapper unveiled the Obama-directed politicized assessment, a gross weaponization of intelligence that laid the groundwork for a years-long coup intended to subvert President Trump’s entire presidency. According to whistleblower emails shared with us today, we know Clapper and Brennan used the baseless discredited Steele Dossier as a source to push this false narrative in the intelligence assessment.

Saved - February 4, 2026 at 3:49 AM
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I’m told Dana Bash’s ex-husband is Jeremy Bash, Obama’s CIA Chief of Staff, labeled one of the Dirty 51 Spies Who Lied; I hear CIA operatives always work in pairs, and Tulsi Gabbard removed his security clearance for signing the Biden laptop letter, among other things.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Dana Bash’s former husband is Jeremy Bash, Obama’s CIA Chief of Staff. He is one of the Dirty 51 Spies Who Lied. Dana kept his surname. And CIA operatives always work in pairs. Tulsi Gabbard removed Jeremy Bash’s security clearance because he signed Biden laptop letter among other things.

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A journalist asks about a recent FBI action at the Fulton County, Georgia elections office, where twenty twenty ballots, voter rolls, and scanner images were seized. The journalist notes that the president claimed, “they got into the votes. You're going to see some interesting things happening,” and asks why the president was so involved in an FBI and DOJ raid. A spokesperson responds that the president’s statements do not imply his involvement. He emphasizes that this is a criminal grand jury investigation, and clarifies that there was a search warrant authorized by a federal judge, a magistrate judge in Atlanta, which allowed the FBI to seize the records. The spokesperson notes that the records have been seized by the FBI as part of the ongoing investigation. The journalist presses on what the investigation is about. The spokesperson reiterates that he cannot discuss specifics of any grand jury investigation, but previously stated that election integrity is of the highest importance to the American people, and that the efforts are aimed at ensuring free and fair elections for everyone in the country, Democrats and Republicans alike. The spokesperson adds that they are doing everything possible to uphold election integrity. The journalist mentions that in Georgia, claims of voter fraud related to the twenty twenty ballots have been debunked repeatedly and that there were multiple recounts. The transcript ends without further elaboration on those claims. Key points conveyed: - The FBI seized twenty twenty ballots, voter rolls, and scanner images from the Fulton County elections office. - The president suggested that “interesting things” would occur, prompting questions about his involvement. - A spokesperson denies the president’s involvement and describes the actions as part of a criminal grand jury investigation. - A federal magistrate judge in Atlanta issued the search warrant permitting the seizure; the FBI conducted the seizure. - The investigation’s specifics cannot be discussed, but officials assert a commitment to election integrity and ensuring free and fair elections for all Americans. - The dialogue references prior debunking of voter fraud claims in Georgia and multiple recounts, without presenting new specifics.
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Speaker 0: Earlier this week, the FBI went into the elections office in Fulton County, Georgia to seize twenty twenty ballots, voter rolls, scanner images. And the president told reporters, quote, they got into the votes. You're going to see some interesting things happening. What interesting things is he talking about, and why was he so involved in an FBI and DOJ raid? Speaker 1: Well, just because he said that doesn't mean that he's involved. I don't believe he was involved. This is a a criminal grand jury investigation, and, and I can't comment on it beyond what what you just said, which is that that there was a a search warrant that was authorized by a federal judge, by a magistrate judge in Atlanta that allowed us to go and and seize those records, and they they have been seized by the FBI as part of an ongoing criminal investigation. Speaker 0: He said interesting things are happening, so it sounds like he was briefed on it. Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know. I'm not around when the president's briefed or not briefed. What I've said is that this is a criminal investigation, so it's it's a tightly held as it must be under the law. It's a grand jury investigation, and and and that's how we're proceeding. Speaker 0: What what are they investigating? Speaker 1: I as as you know, we can't talk about about specifics of any grand jury investigation. I will tell you, as I said on Friday, as the president said, election integrity is of the highest importance to the American people, hopefully, everybody in this country, Democrats and Republicans alike. And so we we are doing everything we can to make sure that we have free and fair elections. Speaker 0: Okay. And as you well know that when it comes to Georgia, claims of voter fraud there because they got the twenty twenty ballots have been debunked over and over again. There were multiple recounts.
Saved - February 2, 2026 at 9:26 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

These are the files Chris Wray, Lisa Monaco, Alan Kohler, Avril Haines and co later retroactively reclassified and raided President Trump’s home for. Steele and Halper both operated out of Cambridge, England, they ran anti-Trump offshore operations for Brennan and Comey, on Obama’s orders

@LouDobbs - Lou Dobbs

BREAKING: @jsolomonReports reports that Pres. Trump has ordered the declassification of intelligence docs from Obamagate, including Christopher Steele’s debriefings and FBI asset Stefan Halper’s instructions. Expected to be released tomorrow or Monday. #MAGA #AmericaFirst #Dobbs https://t.co/8xFBV6wMPQ

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Dramatic new developments: President Trump is declassifying top secret documents all related to Obamagate—the coordinated and years-long spying against a presidential candidate and ultimately the president of the United States and his administration, that of Donald J. Trump. Just the News editor in chief John Solomon will join the program to discuss this important story.
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Speaker 0: Good evening, everybody. Dramatic new developments to report this evening. First, president Trump is declassifying top secret documents all related to Obamagate. That is the coordinated and years long spying against a presidential candidate and ultimately the president of The United States and his administration, that of Donald j Trump. We'll have the shocking details. Just the news editor in chief John Solomon will join us on this important story here this evening.
Saved - February 1, 2026 at 12:55 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

I am not kidding Here is an FBI document showing that Schiff was promised head of the CIA job by Hillary. As revenge, Schiff worked to “take out” President Trump, which included leaking fake stories that President Trump’s National Security Advisor General Flynn had an affair with me and that I was a Russian Spy.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Don’t forget: Adam Schiff was promised head of CIA job by Hillary Clinton and when she did not win the election in 2016, Schiff was very very disappointed. So he has been running anti-Trump ops ever since, including Russiagate, Mueller Hoax, fake Ukraine impeachment etc etc.

@SenAdamSchiff - Adam Schiff

Don't forget: the largest funding spree for ICE in American history was paid for with the largest cut to health care in American history. This terror in our streets was no accident. It was in the Republican budget.

Saved - January 28, 2026 at 1:32 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Please share widely! This 3-hour-long interview, based on 10 years of research, the documentary evidence and witness accounts, proves beyond a reasonable doubt the seditious conspiracy against President Trump by President Obama, Soros, and the highest echelons of the US intelligence community.

@laralogan - Lara Logan

NEW EPISODE: JOHN BRENNAN FACING INDICTMENT with Svetlana Lokhova | Ep 58 | Going Rogue with Lara Logan The most important case people may not be following. Svetlana Lokhova, the British historian falsely branded a Russian spy in the Russia collusion hoax, joins Lara to expose the ongoing grand jury investigation in Florida targeting John Brennan and key figures behind Crossfire Hurricane. Lokhova details how Brennan, Comey, Clapper, and their co-conspirators fabricated the narrative that Russia installed Trump, using lies from CIA asset Stefan Halper and foreign allies to de-legitimize a duly elected president, an act she describes as seditious conspiracy bordering on treason. With subpoenas now issued for documents and testimony spanning 2016–2017, and Brennan fighting to avoid a judge who knows the truth, Lokhova warns that real accountability is finally within reach, but only if the American people stay vigilant and demand justice for the crime of the century. 00:00:00 - MI6 Standard Operations and Personal Setup 00:00:33 - Introducing Svetlana and the Russia Collusion Narrative 00:07:30 - Florida Case and Pursuit of Accountability 00:12:35 - Trump’s Promise of Justice and Declassification of Documents 00:16:58 - The Mar-A-Lago Raid and Handling of Evidence 00:20:20 - Definitions of Sedition, Treason, and International Collaboration 00:23:53 - The Russiagate Timeline and Launch of the Conspiracy 00:31:09 - The Hunter Biden Laptop and Recurring Actors 00:38:14 - British and American Intelligence Operations at Cambridge 00:47:26 - The Hillary Plan, Steele Dossier, and Fusion GPS 01:54:19 - The Brennan-Clinton Plan Documented and the Intelligence Community Assessment 03:01:41 - Florida Grand Jury, Cover-up, and Accountability Efforts @RealSLokhova @GoingRoguewLara Russia Collusion, John Brennan, CIA Conspiracy, General Flynn, Hillary Clinton Emails, Deep State

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Svetlana Lokova recounts a years-spanning, shadowy influence operation that she says began long before the public Russiagate narrative took hold and continued to unfold through high-level intelligence and political circles in the United States and the United Kingdom. She argues that a coordinated conspiracy, involving American and British intelligence figures, political operatives, and foreign partners, was designed to undermine Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, demonize him in the public sphere, and ultimately reshape U.S. politics in ways that persist to today. She explains that the conspiracy starts with the idea of weaponizing Russia as a pretext to derail Trump. In September 2015, Hillary Clinton’s circle tied to Strobe Talbott and to London-based figures including Richard Dearlove and Christopher Andrew decides to dust off “the old Russian handbook” and pursue a plan to run with Russia as the central smokescreen. Svetlana notes that General Michael Flynn, then head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) under Obama, was already engaging with Russia on matters of security and terrorism, and that Flynn’s Moscow trip in December 2015, arranged through the DIA, became a focal point of later accusations. She emphasizes that the trip was conducted under normal security procedures, with defensive briefings and debriefings required for someone of Flynn’s level of clearance. A key tie-in is the Cambridge operation she herself experienced. In 2015 she was an academic at Cambridge University, where she formed connections with MI6’s Richard Dearlove, Cambridge-based MI6-linked figures, and CIA asset Stefan Halper, who had Cambridge cover as a professor. She describes what she calls “bump” encounters—unexpected introductions that later produced routine reports. One such meeting introduced her to John McLaughlin, then acting CIA director, who allegedly expressed admiration for Russia and who later became a conduit for information within the FBI and CIA. Alan Collar, a London-based FBI liaison (Ligat) and a contact to Cambridge, also emerges as a pivotal figure; Svetlana recalls that Collar later sought to have Halper’s help in various capacities, including a potential PhD placement at Cambridge. Svetlana underscores how the operation leveraged a web of relationships: Christopher Steele in Britain, Halper in the U.S., McLaughlin, and MI6 heads like Dearlove, all part of what she describes as a “newsroom-to-FBI-to-CIA” loop. She explains that Steele and Halper acted as confidential informants for the FBI and CIA, with Steele’s dossier and Halper’s reports forming the backbone of what would become the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. She contends that the plan was not simply to accuse Trump of wrongdoing but to create a narrative of foreign interference—Russian involvement used to undermine Trump’s legitimacy and to give cover for the political takes of the Clinton-Soros alliance. The narrative continues with the infamous 2016 timeline. Svetlana recounts how the Hillary Clinton campaign, with Soros backing and with John Podesta’s circle, leveraged a “two-pronged” approach: demonize Trump through a public narrative of Russian interference and simultaneously seed a parallel set of claims about Trump campaign contacts with Russian intelligence. The plan, she says, was documented in internal emails circulated through Soros-linked channels and high-level Clinton aides. An August 2016 Oval Office meeting reportedly included Barack Obama, Susan Rice, James Comey, and John Brennan; Brennan allegedly noted that Hillary’s plan to distract from her email scandal involved tying Trump to Russia and ordered or supported steps to surface contacts between Trump advisers and Russian intelligence. This, she says, culminated in the opening of Crossfire Hurricane, justified by Downer’s May 2016 meeting with George Papadopoulos in London, which fed the FBI’s launch of an overarching inquiry into the Trump campaign. Svetlana emphasizes the mechanics of the operation: a cascade of “two-source” corroboration that failed to exist in reality but was manufactured through coordinated reporting. Stefan Halper and Christopher Steele allegedly provided separate but harmonized lines to the FBI and to journalists (for example, Washington Post and New York Times), with Fusion GPS coordinating research and payments, and with journalists feeding stories into the media while the FBI used those articles as cover to justify surveillance. She notes that the Steele dossier and Halper reports described contacts with Russian figures and asserted Kremlin orders, even while evidence mountains suggested the opposite or were non-existent. The operation allegedly relied on “ambiguous” or “dual-source” reporting to maintain plausible deniability and to keep multiple actors downstream of a single fabrication. Svetlana also describes internal institutional dynamics. She recounts that the Cambridge network included Gina Haspel (then head of the London CIA station) and Mike Morell (a senior CIA official) who allegedly used Cambridge as a front to pursue operations with university cover. The effort, she says, involved the use of “color revolutions” metaphors and methods—funding, organizing demonstrations, and controlling media narratives—through a transatlantic network that included British intelligence (MI6), American agencies (CIA, FBI, DHS), and at times Ukrainian actors. She asserts that the aim was not merely to affect the 2016 election but to create a “fog of war” (as she calls it) to obscure the truth, with the ultimate objective of removing Trump from power or preventing his influence in foreign policy. Two focal consequences are highlighted. First, the emergence of the Russia-collusion frame itself, built on forged or misrepresented evidence about Trump’s alleged ties to Russia and to Russian elites. Second, the use of this frame to drive real-world investigations, media coverage, and political pressure—culminating in the Mueller investigation and attempts to impeach or remove Trump from office. She contends that the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, and later the intelligence community assessment that purported Russian interference and Trump’s supposed collaboration, were built on manipulated or false premises, with the principal architects’ fingerprints on the evidence and the dissemination of the narrative across intelligence and media channels. In her discussion of the Mar-a-Lago documents and the Florida case surrounding John Brennan and other co-conspirators, Svetlana asserts that declassification by President Trump of Crossfire Hurricane documents demonstrated both the existence of the conspiracy and government overreach. She repeats a central point: the documents show a plan written down by Brennan and other aides to tie Trump to Russia, demonize him, and justify an ongoing investigation to undermine his presidency. She notes that the same players who orchestrated the scheme—Halper, Steele, Downer, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, and others—were allegedly involved in a broader pattern of off-the-books operations, funding, and information leaks designed to influence U.S. politics and foreign policy outcomes, with foreign allies in Britain and elsewhere participating in the broader maneuver. Svetlana’s overarching message is that accountability is possible but contingent on public attention and political will. She points to subpoenas and grand jury activity around Brennan and others as indications that the origins of the Russia investigation are formally being examined. She stresses that, despite the persistence of the conspiracy narrative, documents and testimony could reveal the truth behind the orchestrated campaign to disrupt the Trump presidency. She calls on the American public to demand accountability and to remain vigilant about the institutions and actors involved in what she describes as a continuing conspiracy, from Crossfire Hurricane to the later narratives surrounding Mueller and impeachment efforts, and into current political disputes. The dialogue closes with a personal appeal from Svetlana to the audience and to Lara Logan: the need to push for transparency and for due process, to scrutinize the roles of the people who allegedly manufactured and propagated the Russia collusion claims, and to insist on accountability for those who oversaw or participated in actions she frames as treasonous or seditious. She credits Lara Logan for ongoing coverage and expresses gratitude for the support of viewers and readers who seek an unflinching account of events, urging continued public scrutiny and a demand for principled governance.
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Speaker 0: And they said all we had to do is for you to be young and pretty and for for us to be in the same room. And then they can write up love or maybe infatuation or anything they like in the report because it's their report. Can you imagine my life has been turned upside down, but actually, the this sheer realization is just a standard m I six operation. It's just what they do. Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Going Rogue with Lara Logan. They say that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. And the woman you're going to hear from today has certainly has the fury of hell behind her as she investigates what was done to her by the American traders who conspired to overthrow illegally elected president and created the false Russia collusion narrative where they targeted Svetlana Lykova and falsely accused her of being a Russian spy. 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They said that you're having an affair with General Flynn, someone I've known for more than twenty five years, and along with his wife, Laurie. And if there's anyone who would never have an affair with anyone, it is general Michael Flynn. So I knew from the moment that was printed that it was a lie. But your life was turned upside down. We've covered that, in a wonderful interview on the show previously. I would urge anyone who wants the background to Vetlanda's story to understand, you know, just what it was like for her to be, falsely targeted and smeared, have the world's media hounding her, have the intelligence agencies from The United States and from The UK coming after her, how this professor, history history professor in a specific part of Russian history was became the center of one of the largest scandals in the history of The United States Of America. I know they turned up your your life. They turned it over, turned it upside down, and really put you through hells, Vetlanda, but you are a formidable woman. You have we we were laughing about this in a I think it was a six, seven, eight hour phone call we had where you have made this your entire life. Getting justice, getting the truth out, fighting for all of the people who are targeted in this conspiracy has become your life's work even though you're a mom and a wife. You you don't you can't tell people where you are located because you're still being targeted because this conspiracy is ongoing. But one of the things that you alerted me to is this case that is going on in Florida involving John Brennan, the former head of the CIA, who is one of Obama, Comey, Clapper's co conspirators in a seditious treasonous conspiracy, to overthrow not just the president of The United States who'd been legally elected, but the will of the American people. And this case is not getting that much attention in the media. Yet curiously, it's getting quite a bit of attention from John Brennan and from Andrew McCabe, who was deputy director of the CIA, who was also a co conspirator, and from a couple of other people like Peter Strokes, the treasonous former, I think, deputy director of counterintelligence under Bill Priestat, and, of course, Lisa Page, his his lover at the FBI, who has admitted to congress now to a lot of her crimes yet still has not been held accountable along with the rest of them. But this may be a day of reckoning because they are they've all been subpoenaed in the grand jury that has been convened to address the origins of the of Crossfire Hurricane and the Russia Collusion Investigation inside the FBI. Why? Because we all know now from all the documents and all the evidence that's been released that it was a 100% corrupt. It was treason. It was a this is a real conspiracy, folks. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a legal conspiracy called treason and sedition, and, it is an actual crime. So many of us are wondering about accountability, but the one woman who's like an encyclopedia as a professor, you know, she didn't become a professor by being dumb, but Svetlana Lekova has spent the better part of ten years now studying this. She worked with the Durham investigation. She has read every single document, everything in the annex, every note in every annex. She has, documents that were declassified by president Trump, then reclassified by Joe Biden after he stole the election, and then declassified again by president Trump when he came into office. They tried to say that president Trump gave her classified documents. That was a lie. They haven't stopped going after her, and she hasn't stopped fighting. So Svetlana, can you take us through this case, in Florida that you think is so significant and just explain what it's really about? Speaker 2: Well, hello, Lara. Thank you so much for having me having me on again, and thank you for your audience for spending time with us this afternoon or morning. Okay. Speaker 0: And, first of all, you're right that we're finally finally seeing, hopefully, accountability. We obviously don't know because, you know, we've unfortunately seen in in in the cases where, for example, they indicted Jim Comey, that, unfortunately, the judicial system is in a very bad place. We have access to judges. We have this, completely brainwashed juries, and we have corrupt prosecutors and everything in between. So usually, would say having dealt with this whole thing for about ten years and having hoped for accountability for ten years, I initially, to be honest, gave up on on hoping that there will be any accountability because, when I worked closely with the Durham investigation, I was told that I had the prosecutor assigned to this Russian gay case who who was speaking to me. I knew there was going to be prosecutions. They've gone as far as putting Hillary Clinton under oath and, John Brannon under oath. It was a criminal investigation, and then boom. It just disappeared. Nothing happened. So I frankly did not expect anything to happen. Then, of course, they almost, you know, they raided, the president's home. Then, obviously, he was almost assassinated. Then they were trying to jail him. So the end result was that, you know, not only there were never going to be accountability, it looked like, you know, we had the mugshot, you know, being paraded around of of the president of The United States. It looks like not only the the bad guys won't will never go to jail, but in fact, the good guy who is trying to bring them to account is in going to go to jail for the rest of his life. So that was that. And then only through some amazing, I suppose, grace, I don't know how else to call it, president Trump somehow managed to come back, and you guys somehow managed to vote him in. And I I suppose you're right in such droves to vote him in that they couldn't do anything about this particular election, and he came back. And the fur first thing he did is he promised, you know, among other things, he promised accountability. Speaker 2: That's Speaker 0: correct. He promised it for two reasons. One is obviously because, you know, those who committed crimes need to be held accountable. He's the chief law enforcement of The United States. And sorry. Chief law enforcement officer of The United States. So as a president, he actually has the responsibility to hold the bad guys accountable. It's his job. That is Speaker 1: correct. In fact, it's a constitutional right that Americans have for address of grievance, and the people who know that this was treason and sedition have a serious grievance. Speaker 3: While the global financial elite has been secretly accumulating wealth through cryptocurrency, ordinary Americans have been systematically excluded. 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Speaker 0: And the second thing is what you've just said about, you know, sedition and treason is that he wanted to make sure it will never happen again in the future because one is punishing the people who did it, but the second time thing about dealing with crime is to make sure you prevent the crime happening again. And this is the coming of century. Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 0: And so he promised this accountability, and and he gave a big speech at the Department of Justice saying that he's going to give this accountability. He put the people in place like Talcie Gabbard as a director of national intelligence, like John Radcliffe as a director of the SAE, like Kesh Patel as a director of the, FBI, Pam Bowen. He put all the people in place and said, okay. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna work on accountability. The next thing that happened, of course, that took time. So that was from so, obviously, he was inaugurated in the beginning sorry, in the January, then there were a few months, you know, to get people, you know, confirmed and put into into place. And then the very first thing he did when he could is he declassified the Crossfire hurricane documents. So he signed an executive order, and as a visa, he's holding it up. Susie Wilde is sitting next to him. So for him, it's a huge huge deal. He declassified his documents. By doing so, he now, paved the way towards accountability because now, you know, you can hold trials. Right? Because you will now have the evidence which previously was classified, but then there Speaker 2: were hidden Speaker 1: What they do, right, they hide behind that classification. Right, Sveldan? And they say, well, you know, even Durham. Right? They didn't people don't realize that they didn't give Durham access to all of the information because they classified it. And so and so he was flying blind in many respects. Speaker 0: Or even worse as, you know, we'll discuss later, they, president Trump declassified documents. Durham had access to them, then they reclassified them, and therefore, Durham prepared all the prosecutions and was forced to abandon them because they raided his home, a president's home, and took the documents away. So president Trump then reclassified again for the second time the same documents. Yeah. And then the next thing he did is, obviously, this prosecution began and the very lucky thing. So, obviously, the raid of president's home in Mar A Largo for people, you know, just to remind you, what happened is in 2022, so this is, you know, two years after Biden was elected, well, one and a half. Not elected, but, you know, Speaker 2: he After he stole Speaker 1: the election and was and was put in place. Yep. Speaker 0: Put in place. So they were hoping that president Trump is never gonna run again. He's never gonna come back. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. They intended to put him away forever. Speaker 0: And when he indicated that he he's gonna he's gonna come back, he's gonna run again, so, you know, they were trying to tie him up with his gen six setup, etcetera. So when he indicated he's gonna come back, they raided his home in Mar A Largo, Florida. And there was a huge raid. In fact, Pamela Bondi, Pam Bondi, who's, you know, he's he's attorney general. Now he she was actually his lawyer on the case, and Lindsay Halligan was there. You know, she's she's the prosecutor. On the Comey case, she they were they were actually there in Florida when it all happened. He luckily was not at home because remember, they also authorized, this horrible, you know, use of deadly force. And they came, like, on helicopters helicopters and and boats, and the FBI were involved, and there were dozens and dozens of people involved, and it was horrible. Right? Like, probably remembers the this footage. But what people sort of maybe forget by now is why did they do it? So first of all, it's unprecedented rates. Obviously, one is to send a message to him and his family that, you know, we're gonna get you if you if you try as much as to come back. Mhmm. But the second thing they did is they took away the documents that he held, that he declassified. Yeah. Which were the proof that a crime, this treasonous, seditious com conspiracy that was committed against him, he held documentary evidence that he was going to use during the reelection campaign in in '20, you know, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, right, to get reelected to show how corrupt the deep state is. That's the documents that he declassified. So they took those documents out of his home and retractively reclassified them. Speaker 1: Now Retractively, classified them again. Yes. To stop using them in his reelection campaign because they show what? So treasonous con conspiracy, and Speaker 0: you actually explained to me very well that we have, in a sense, two cases. Right? So one case is seditious conspiracy. So sedition is well, conspiracy is when it's one more than one person, they, come together to to to do something. Right? And this was, first, actually, I think this was Rudy Giuliani or people like that who I think used it in New York cases as in against the mass. Speaker 1: Of in Rico cases to destroy the market. Speaker 0: Cases. Because what would happen is the guy that talked sorry. Sorry. Carry on. Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani is famous for what he did with RICO prosecutions against the mafia. Yeah. It was Right. Speaker 0: And this is what we're looking at here. So the way it happens is the guy at the top is always going to say, I didn't know anything about it. Right? So you could always catch them, you know, the guy who actually executed the crime, but it's very, very difficult to catch other people who co conspired or who ordered the crimes to happen. Whereas the way it works with the RICO cases is, once you establish that there was a conspiracy, that people were going to act, you know, to to commit a crime together, then it doesn't actually matter if you know each other. It doesn't matter whether you know what the other person is doing. So as long as you are together further in the conspiracy, so you can call joint ventures, so this is something that Durham prosecutors were trying to do, as long as you're all acting in furtherance of that conspiracy, then you're all liable for it whether or not you specifically did this thing or that thing or not. Right? So for example, if there was a Speaker 1: Just like just like all of them that is still going out today furthering the conspiracy by accusing Trump of weaponizing the justice system and and so on and so on. The con this is what people don't realize is that they they try to say that this happened in 2016, and the statute of limitations was over in 2022, But it wasn't, not just because the Mar a Lago raid happened in 2022, which is part of the cover up, which is part of the conspiracy, but because the conspiracy is still ongoing today. They still haven't acknowledged it, and they still haven't ended it. Speaker 0: That's right. Because they have to disavow. Each person in the conspiracy has to disavow the conspiracy, and they Speaker 1: haven't Legally, to meet the legal requirement for the conspiracy to have ended, that's what they have to do by the Speaker 0: you'd still be charged up to the point where you disavowed, but at least it stops the clock. Correct. Whereas the clock is still ticking into the future. Speaker 1: And that's why there's such limitation with patience. Speaker 0: Yeah. Mhmm. And and the way it works is that what is what is the actual conspiracy? Like, what what did they actually do? Well, what they did is first, they interfered in the election in 2016 to try and stop president Donald Trump, so he candidate Trump from becoming president. But then from the moment he's elected, you guys elected him, right, as American people Mhmm. That becomes sedition because now now they're overthrowing US government. Correct. So now no longer they're interfering in an election, they're overthrowing US government. And this is where it becomes interesting. This is something you actually told me, Lara, and I never thought about it that way, is that Talcie Gabbard specifically called it treasonous conspiracy. And, you know, the word treason gets, like, thrown around quite a lot, so people used to saying that. What does that actually mean? And you then explained to me that involves foreigners. Correct. So sedition is when you conspire, a bunch of people conspire, right, to to overthrow the government. Speaker 1: It isn't. Speaker 0: Yes. Treason is when also those Americans conspire with people outside America, outside The United States. And that's where, you know, once we go later through the documents, that's where it becomes very interesting because John Brannan, the CAA directs another people involved, will come back soon, Peter Strokes and others, they all work with The United Kingdom, with with British intelligence and also Australians and other countries. Yeah. And that's why Tulsi is very specific when she says director Gabbard is so specific when she says there was a treasonous conspiracy Because not only they were also running for in the government, but they were doing with help of foreigners, other other other countries. Speaker 1: Yep. That's exactly what happened. 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But the specific events, and I'm quoting David Nunez who used to be, on the gang of eights. So he used to be the Yes. Key person who would've been the congressman out Speaker 1: of California who famously wrote that memo which laid out the truth, and then, and then Adam Schiff, you know, accused him of lying. And Adam Schiff has since been shown to be lying about everything, and Devin Nunes' memo was a 100% correct. Speaker 0: That's right. And Devin Nunes was the head of the committee on them. So Uh-huh. After the after, you know, Watergate and other events, there's a storage committee, etcetera, they created the House Intelligence Committee to provide the oversight of the intelligence community. And people in this committee have access security clearances and access to all the classified information, including MSAA operations. And they, so David Nunes is the chair of this committee. He was investigating Russia against initially, he was investigating was there any collusion between Trump and Russia, but actually very quick quickly, he found out, actually, not only there was no collusion between Trump and Russia, but in fact, there was there was conspiracy against president Trump. And he famously says that it's ten years conspiracy, and it starts from the moment he announces pres candidacy for presidential election because they wanted to stop, you know, Donald Trump, and we can talk about, you know, how and why be be be, you know, basically, the global elites conspired. They didn't want Mhmm. You know, they didn't want this candidates of change of, you know you know, who's who's gonna go after their corruption. And then it continued through Crossfire Hurricane, which is the investigation of the of the Trump campaign. In fact, there was a it was not an investigation. It was, you know, it was a setup. Then it went into the fabrication of the intelligence community assessment, which made the finding that, president Trump was installed by By the Russians. Russia. Speaker 1: This is the one that Don Brennan was responsible for. Speaker 0: Right. That's right. And that was done on orders of Obama because when, you know, Talcz Gabbard famously gave a press conference talking about this treasonous conspiracy, she found documents showing that the assessment was prepared by the intelligence community saying it was just a normal election. 2016 was just a normal election. And then they have an order that she found from Obama directly saying, no, change it. Right? And make it look like president Trump was installed by Russia. Speaker 1: Yes. And you used that for him. That was John Brennan. Speaker 0: John Brennan, Jim Clapper, Jim Comey. How we know that we actually have the emails that Tulsi Gabbard released where, general Rogers, you know, is is watching concerns about this, the head of the yeah. Because he didn't even have the time to look at the underlying evidence because there isn't any to to reach this conclusion. And Jim Clapper, copying Brennan and Thomas says, it's our story. We're sticking to it. Be it team sport, and just basically sign off. Speaker 2: And And Ron was folded. Speaker 0: But the main thing is that they actually so so this document shows the conspiracy. Right? You have to further the conspiracy. You have to have a goal. That's right. What's the goal? It's to de legitimize the president. And so what they're doing by saying that that it wasn't American people who voted for president Trump, it was actually a foreign country who installed them, they could then overthrow him, right, by using the pretext that they're acting in the interest of national security, they're acting in the interest of the country because, because he's not a real president. Right? So it's the job of this of the of the CIA, of the of the FBI, of the of of the outgoing president to protect America from, you know, this traitor, this imposter. Right? Yes. That's how they made it look. But in fact, it's it is a conspiracy, and we know that because they wrote it down. So not only we know that because we know it, but because, luckily, this conspirators left the documents. And we'll come back in a second because it started with Hillary Clinton, and then when she lost the election, then it continued under Obama to try and overthrow the president and install another republican candidate continued that suited the the deep state. Yes. Then when that didn't work, they ended up getting into they they caused the Mueller investigation, which continued by the same path. And the and the purpose of the Mueller investigation was to impeach president Trump or persuade him to resign, like like like like they persuaded Nixon to resign. Would poll. Yeah. And they were gonna install Mike Pence. So it it continues. The conspiracy continues. Then when Mueller thing didn't work, but all the way through, of course, they were impeding, his administration. Right? Because he couldn't do Speaker 1: anything. At every turn. Speaker 0: Right. Then when that didn't work, right, the next step in the conspiracy is the Ukraine impeachment, which, you know, you mentioned Adam Schiff. So the fake Ukraine impeachment where they accused him of, you know, bad things again, like Russia, Ukraine. He kinda made it sound similar. Right? Then they did that. And, again, it's all the same people. Devin Nunezhovist says always the same people. So that is about calf so about 2,000 people or more. There's a lot more of them, but that we can count. Right? They they keep repeating the same thing over and over again. And what's interesting about the Ukraine impeachment is something I think we raised in the previous interview is Myge Goodlander. So she's the ringleader of the seditious six, but she's also the wife of Jake Sullivan Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 0: Who is the architect of Russia Gate, he's a very close adviser to Hillary Clinton and Obama. So he was gonna be next president after Clinton. Speaker 1: Deputy national security guy adviser under, Biden and responsible for the betrayal of our allies in Afghanistan and the murder of countless Afghans. Speaker 0: Right. Exactly. And and then guys, anything bad, you can always find Jake Sullivan, you know, involved. Speaker 1: And Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice and Avril Haines and, Lisa Monaco and all of them. Speaker 0: That's right. Always the same people. Speaker 1: Norm Eisen. Sure. Speaker 0: Same people. Maggie Goodland, the wife of Jake Sullivan, she worked with Norm Eisen, who I think we discussed is a huge lawfare guy on this Ukraine Impeachment along with, Adam Schiff and other people. So, again, this wasn't a real impeachment. Again, it was fabrication, so the conspiracy continues. Speaker 1: Another side up. Another part of the conspiracy to set president Trump up. Speaker 0: Right. Then the next thing I mean, we can, you know, we can go on Speaker 1: and on. This is just a bit Speaker 0: a highlight. Yeah. In terms of highlights, the next thing is this famous laptop letter. Wow. So remember that, so Rudy Giuliani, you know, found this information, where Hunter Biden, the son of, you know, presidential candidate Joe Biden, he abandoned his laptop. And on the laptop, there was evidence not only of sexual divinacy, but also of the corrupt dealings of the, you know, of the Biden family. And that information was very important for the election campaign because it showed American people had the right to know that they counted that, you know, one of the candidates It's not my serious current power. Right. And what happened is the same people so this is the 51, Spiceful Eiders, they call them. But all of them, there were about six CAE directors. Right? And you know they say former. Right. They say Spiceful Eiders. They say former, but there's no such thing as, you know, Lara, of a former SA And in fact, the current SA director at the time, Gina Haspel, right Mhmm. She actually allowed all of this to happen. And then people involved for example, Blinken, who became, Biden's, secretary of state. We have John Brannan involved in this letter. Uh-huh. Right? We have Mike Morell. I mean, all these Leon Paneth, all these guys involved in this, they're the same guys who were involved in Russiagate originally. Right? The same people always doing the same thing. And Biden famously in the debate used this assessment. You know, like, how remember how previously the same people assessed that Trump was installed by Russia? The same people assessed through this letter, right, that Uh-huh. That the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation. And therefore Speaker 1: Dragging up the same old thing, the same old conspiracy that they invented in the very beginning in 2016. They did it Speaker 0: in That's right. Speaker 1: '20, and they're still doing it now. Every time Trump tries to do anything with president Putin, anything for Ukraine peace talks, they still say once again that Trump is showing that he has the special relationship with Russia and special relationship with Putin. They're using the same conspiracy that they have yet to acknowledge, and they lie about it constantly. Speaker 0: Right. And so there, have the same people. You know, there are many other things I'm sure. I'm but I'm just giving a sort of bird's eye view. And I'm basically following the the the things that, you know, that that Devin Nunesh outlined because he had access to all this information. These are the sort of high points or low points, if you like, of the conspiracy. And then finally, we arrive at this marital argo raid where president Trump, was holding evidence, declassified evidence of their crimes Which he Speaker 1: declassified before he left office, by the way. And just very briefly, for people who who are not familiar with how information is classified, it is always the responsibility of the issuing agency to classify or declassify information. So if it comes out of the CIA, they classify it. And if if somebody wants to use part of that information, they have to go to the CIA. They say, you, you know, can you declassify this in whole or in part? And they do it. And that applies to the NSA, the NRO, the DIA, the State Department. It doesn't matter who it is. However, there's one person under American law who the act of speaking is an act of declassification, and that is the president of The United States Of America. So before Trump leaves office, after the twenty twenty election is stolen, he declassifies these documents, which is his legal right and authority as president of The United States. Then, of course, the Biden administration comes in. They realize that they're, you know, they're in real trouble. Right? They're in real trouble. And so what do they do? They reclassify these documents. I just want people to understand how devious it is what they're doing because you know firsthand, Svetlana, you had some of those documents which you acquired when they were declassified, so it was completely legal. Once they reclassify them, they try to accuse you of having classified documents. I mean, these people are disgusting. But anyway, that's that's, you know, just so for people to understand is when they say, oh, the president had classified documents at Mar A Lago, well, weren't classified when he took those documents, and he had the legal right to have them. And it's nobody else has the legal right, not the vice president, not any sitting US senator like Joe Biden when he had classified information at his home, only the president of The United States. So the entire thing was once again a massive lie and a setup. Speaker 0: That's right. So what happened is on the last day, or, Lara, last week of the of president Trump's, first term Mhmm. He issued an executive order, you can find it on the White House website, authorizing the declassification of the Crossfire Hurricane documents. And just we'll come back to that later when we start discussing the origins of the conspiracy. But just to remind people, crossfire hurricane was the name of the FBI investigation of the tran Trump campaign ostensibly, to, you know, investigate whether whether president oh, sorry. Candid then candidate Trump colluded with with Russia, with Putin in order to win the election. But in fact, there was a form of the election interference by the CIA, by the FBI in order to stop Donald Trump becoming president. Speaker 2: And I just I just have Speaker 1: to say, Svetlana, just to remind people that during that campaign and after he was elected president, president Trump actually spoke about the fact that his campaign was spied upon. And everybody said he was a liar. He said he was wiretapped, you know, and then they mocked him for that because they said nobody does wiretapping anymore. But the point of it was that that crossfire hurricane is the evidence that Donald Trump actually was spied upon. So when they accused him of being a big liar, he wasn't lying at all. He was a 100% correct. Speaker 0: Well, that's right. And the two things which were, you know, depending on the time, can go into detail later. But the two things he wrote, he actually wrote the two correct things. One, he wrote, there is a spy on my campaign. He famously wrote Mhmm. And that that spy was politically motivated and, you know, ordered by Obama and and Clinton. And then that spy was being paid millions of dollars. Reboot. People don't understand who he's talking about. And he's talking about Stefan Halper, who's the CAA Dorothy Ops guy. And president Trump couldn't mention him by name because otherwise, they jail him for endangering national security because information about him was was still classified. So he wrote about this in '17 '18, but Speaker 2: Well, he could have by document if you could name him. Speaker 1: Sveldhana, he could have mentioned him by name because the act of speaking by the president is an act of declassification. However, he was pressured by the people around him as usual, Don't do this because you're gonna do that. You can't do this. You can't do that. He gets he gets put under all this pressure and he's actually a very, has demonstrated that he's quite a reasonable man because he often, you know, goes out of his way to preserve national security when he's told that something is a national security threat. And what in fact was happening is that dirty people around the president were protecting his CIA asset, Steven Helper. Speaker 0: Who also That's right. Because the main person the main person who persuaded president Trump not to do it, not to declassify any documents about Halper was Gina Haspel. Gina Haspel was the CAA director, but previously, she used to be the head of the London station of the CAA. So she ran Stefan Halper. So she had to, hide the evidence of the CAA involvement in the election interference. And she said, and it's been widely reported, that should the spy be named, the person who was spying on his campaign, but he was doing worse. Right? He was lying. Right? So he was spying, but he was lying, that should any information about about him be released, then it would endanger say assets. So because they he was they, all the Stefan Halper is like a dirty trickster guy, so he's like an old bush Speaker 1: He does a lot of dirty work for the CIA. And so they are, you know, we need people like this. They've done a lot of stuff for America. They have a whole history, you know, there's all the other people like this. You know, they they come up with every Right. Speaker 0: Excuse Right. Speaker 2: For why you can't do the right thing. Speaker 1: And then they'll tell him, oh, but, you know, but we need to get to the other people that he's working with or whatever whatever. They come up with whatever they can. And the reality is what they were doing was protecting the CIA because it was running this operation, and they were protecting all their other assets and co conspirators whether because the director of the FBI was involved, the deputy director was involved, the head of counterintelligence, the deputy head of counterintelligence, other FBI agents. That's and then, you know, Department of Justice was involved. The CIA was involved, and and their counterparts in British intelligence, in MI six, in an MI five, and then, of course, the Australian ambassador, Alexander Downer, and so on and so on, and all the way to Ukraine, by the way, because Ukraine was also involved. And so and that's who they were really protecting. And once again, president Trump got rid of a bad guy at the CIA, then he got Gina Haspel, and she was just as bad. Speaker 0: Well, she was probably worse because what he didn't realize is she's the one was the one who's so Mike Pompeo persuaded him to to install, you know, Gina Haspel He's pretty bad. Who was his protege. But the reason why they had to install Gina Haspel is because she was running Sayeh operations out of London. And if you just take one step back so the way that works, and I think, you know, your audience is very familiar with the terminology about color revolutions, is Sayeh has this very storied history about overthrowing either regimes or democratically late elected leaders depending on your point of view. But in any way, one of their specialties and they boast about it. Right? They make ton of money out of it, is they they overthrow regimes. And previously Speaker 1: And and a color revolution essentially means that they do it using the local people. They make it look like a civilian uprising when it's really funded and fueled by the CIA. Speaker 0: Right. So there's different colors. Like, the reason why it's called called color revolution, as you say, is because, so what happened is George Soros and people like him Yeah. Work with the CIA outside The United States Mhmm. Speaker 2: And they create network around reals. Speaker 0: They use real grievances that people have in order to put, like, demonstrations together, revolves together, they control the media. Speaker 2: So for example DLM. Speaker 0: Yeah. So for example, we had in Cambridge one of the women who was working for the DIA but actually for the CIA who explained to us how they do this color revolution. It's kinda scary. Right? Because they they have a whole the whole thing written out and they're proud of it. They boast about it from how how they take down all the government communications channels and TV channels, and they get anonymous to, like, hack the whole thing into how they give how they give people mobile phones with instructions because they bring people into the capital city to do these demonstrations. But they're out of town, so they don't have the direction. So they say, yeah. Let's let's use them phone that gives them direction of where to go. They issue them helmets. The and and, you know, bulletproof jackets. They they tell you the phone tells you where to go for medical aid. And I'm not just saying that, like, she wrote the book about it. She's like the per DIA person, defense intelligence person who who is in fact working for the SA based out of Cambridge. They're boasting about it because they want other people to hire them to do that. And all the things I've just described, do you remember all this BLM process? If you look at the picture of those, it would be very very similar because this is the first time they started doing color revolution inside The United States. So normally, they overthrow the governments outside. But in this particular case, because they didn't want Donald Trump, they decided to do it against Americans, which is what the shocking thing is. Speaker 1: And they actually started it in 2016 when Trump won the first time with the protest against them. That was a much smaller way, but that was the beginning. And what they leave out of the book, what they don't tell you, Svetlana, is that what they also do, the other part of the color revolution, is that they have undercover operatives, clandestine operatives who are on both sides, who will, for example, like they did in Ukraine, they will shoot police officers, law enforcement soldiers of the state to make them think the protesters are are using weapons and shooting them, and they will shoot protesters to make the other protesters believe that law enforcement or the state is killing their people. And so so it's very sinister and, deceptive what they do. Speaker 0: And so what they were doing is that they have to prepare, and I think you taught me all this terminology where they have to prepare the informational space first. So before they can run all these operations, right, they go through the media, they start creating this kind of smoke, this this, what what is it? That what's the terminology? They they use the fog of war. The fog of war. Yeah. A fog of war. They they they they put so much information out there that you begin to believe it. So this was an intelligence operation by the SAE that would so and it started in '15 because they have to start one year before, right, the election. So what they were doing is they were preparing the battlefield, so to speak. I think it's always terminology you taught me. And what Speaker 2: they were they would do Speaker 1: is they they do all the articles that say it's Hillary Clinton's destiny to be president. She's fulfilling her destiny and blah blah blah. So they make you feel like it's inevitable because they know they're going to cheat. They know they're going to steal the election. That's why she barely campaigned. She didn't need to campaign because they were gonna steal it, and then they prevented the cheat. And so that they wouldn't expect that. Speaker 0: Right. So they came up with a plan because they're like, okay. How are gonna they sit down. Like, they they they've done all these elections before. Right? And that's why this Stefan Halper guy who they hired, he's a CIA guy, but he's also a very old political guy. So he, for example, was involved famous in debate gate where he stole, Carter. He so he worked for Bush. Right? So he's he Yeah. Speaker 1: But he he was a republican. He did all his dirty tricks for the republicans for a long time. Speaker 0: Well, he called himself republican, but he's just, like, he's just basically a guy who just does anything for money. Right? George tricks guy. Yeah. So Yeah. Speaker 2: He's just making me a whore. Speaker 0: Clinton's hired him because the problem that Hillary was facing is that, she had an issue. So remember, she abruptly had to leave the state department under Obama because of Benghazi? And then she got Speaker 1: low unclassified information with her email server. Speaker 0: Right. And and the prehistory to that, of course, is she was supposed to become president in o eight, and George Storr sponsored her. But she famously lost to Obama, And the deep state accepted Obama because reasons. Right? But she was promised, so they made her secretary of state and they effectively allowed her to run the whole of the foreign policy, which included a lot of bad things. Right? Like, you know, arms deals and whatever. And she ran them Speaker 1: all off Off the books. Speaker 0: Off the book. And that's why she needed to have the secret server because to avoid oversight, avoid future potential, you know Nice. Liability, she and many other people. So Obama was in those emails under Sudan and Biden were involved, and she was giving people cut, you know, you know, financial compensation. So she was running all these off the books deals, and this was the that's what the arrangement they had with Obama where he ran things internally, she ran things externally. Speaker 2: Yes. With with Speaker 1: Sidney Blumenthal and the others who were running her Speaker 0: own Blumenthal was effectively because of spymaster, if you like. Mhmm. And they were running all these operations which were designed to enrich the Deep states people off the books with the help of the CIA etcetera etcetera. And she couldn't afford to have them, you know, oversight. That's Speaker 2: And why why she couldn't afford Speaker 1: as well, Svetlana? Because those off the books operations exposed the leftist, Islamist, globalist alliance that we see today, where the left is financing pro Palestinian protests, etcetera, etcetera, and the Islamic invasion of western civilizations all around the globe because they want to destroy western civilization. And these guys were in bed together then, and they didn't want that to be exposed. Speaker 0: I had do learned from the Bushes because this is why it's a sort of it's not Republicans versus Democrats thing. Right? So so should they learn from Bush's how to make money from all these intelligence operations, arms deals, drugs deals, whatever they were doing, but it had to be off the books. That's why she needed to have the secret server. But, then it was agreed that she was gonna become the next presidential the next president because she was already owed she felt she Mhmm. Owed president. Right? Speaker 2: After Obama. Yeah. Speaker 0: After Obama. And, actually, Joe Biden wanted to run, and this is something which people ask me about. I know it's not directly relevant to her case, but I might as well say it now because people are quite interested in this. Is this Hunter Biden computer where which was approved of all his sins and the criminality of his family and their deviance, it was something that Hillary originally used to stop Joe Biden running for election in in '16. That's what Devin Nunes said. So John Podesta, her campaign manager, went to Biden because Biden, you know, as vice president, he was over the president's annexed, but Hillary said no. And then No. Speaker 1: It's mine. Yeah. Speaker 0: If if Iran is gonna come out. Right? And that's what Devin Nunes says. It's it's amazing. Right? And Podesta, like, admitted, he said he had a conversation with Biden, and Biden pulled out. And she also owned the DNC. Remember? Right? So she was just supposed to be was supposed to be easy. She's supposed to have this coronation. And her campaign effectively was run by, two people. Well, the actual election campaign was run by John Podesta, but the the mastermind was a guy called Strokes Talbot. And Strobe Talbot is a close close buddy of, Bill Clinton. They were in college together. And Strobe Talbot was a you know, he's like a CIA, deep state, state department guy, like, name it. Right? But he's also Speaker 1: head of a think tank in Washington DC. Speaker 0: Called the Butchings By the Speaker 1: way, and married to a Russian married to a Russian woman and was, you know, obviously, was well positioned, right, to create the specter of the great Russian threat because he was an he's considered an old Russia hand, Russia expert. Speaker 0: You are so spot on. So he was the head of Brookings Institution Okay. Which is this Washington think tank, which is kinda like a say friend. Speaker 1: Was spies, by the way. Speaker 0: That's right. That it's a say a friend. But but you know what the words you've just said. So believe it or not, in September, those exact words you've just said, like, you just you were so good at analyzing these things, so you guess what happened. In September 2015, when they're plotting how Healer is gonna come back to power Mhmm. They me they they have a meeting, and I know that Durham people were looking into that because I found it online. I sent it to them, and it was really, really important to them as part of the conspiracy. Because Hillary Clinton went to meet Strobe Talbot, and she said, it's time to dust off your old Russian handbook. Right? Because your old Russian hands. Speaker 1: Right there. Speaker 0: Right. September 2015, and that's how we know that the September 2015 marks the official start of the conspiracy because it's nine months before the elect sorry. It's, eleven months before the election. It's you know, they have everything planned out, and they specifically decided it's gonna be Russia. And why is it going to be Russia that they're going to use as a way of getting Hillary, you know, elected? Well, for two reasons. One is because it would have never worked against democrats, the story. Right? Because famously, remember Bill Clinton? When he was facing Bush in the debates, Stefan Halper was representing Bush at that point. Right? This is the CIA dirty tricks guy. And he found out that Bill Clinton been to Soviet Union and some other stuff. And Bush tried to say, oh, you're connected with Russia. You're connected with with Soviet Union. Right? Speaker 2: And Democrats didn't care. Speaker 0: It didn't land. And what does Clinton famous say? You know the answer. You don't know the question yet. Right? But he said, it's the economy stupid. So I don't care about Russia, Russia, Russia or whatever. Right? All people care is about the economy and he won the debate. And Clinton's then realized that Stefan Halper is very good at this and they hired him to get Hillary elected. And he realized Halper as an old republican guy who's been in the election fixing business for decades. Right? Yeah. He realized that what's gonna work on the republican party is Russia, Russia, Russia. Because also remember that Mitt Romney during the debates of, with Obama said something like Russia, Russia, Russia, and Obama because at that point, Obama was very close to Russia. They were doing a lot of joint things. Speaker 1: We ended the whole Russia reset with Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. She put the button on her desk and said, we're gonna reset our relationship with Russia, and maybe that's because they were selling uranium Speaker 0: under Russia. But they were also genuinely had a lot of, you know, they had a lot since the Soviet Union collapsed, they had a lot of cooperation between Russia and New Russia, up to this Russia, and and and America to the point where a lot of people involved in Russia gate, originally, they were actually in charge of corporations to CIA, the CIA and Russian intelligence services were all cooperating. Right? So the guy who you'll hear a name in a moment, they'll become very important, who is called Trubnikov, is the head of the SVR, was joined He's called what? Trubnikov. Vacheslav Trubnikov. He was the head of Russian foreign intelligence services after Soviet Union collapsed. And his counterpart was a man called John McLaughlin. And John McLaughlin is the name you probably know because he's the thanks thank god for the deep state guy. And he was the CAA director, acting CAA director, and he is known as the magician. Right? Because he does tricks. And he is the guy who is one of the signatory of the fifth fifth you know, the dirty the dirty of the Spyful Lies is dirty 51. He was one of the signatories of the of the laptop letter. Right? But he personally knew Trubnikov, who was the head of Russian SVR, and they worked together. But when it came to elect Hillary Hillary Clinton, they flipped it. Right? So they made it as if Republicans were cooperating with Russia. Right? And as if it's, like, the national security threat. So they chose Russia because remember, as I said, Obama famously told Romney because Romney was trying to say, oh, you're too close to Russia. And Obama said, like, the eighties cold, and they want their foreign policy back. Remember that. So he was accusing Republicans of being out of touch that they're still stuck in the situation where they think Russia is like a communist state, but it's not. Right? Like, you know, communist collapse. It's now a capitalist country. So Obama was laughing at these accusations. It would have never worked against Democrats, but it would work the parts of Ronald Reagan to say that their candidate is a Russian stooge. That would have, like, worked perfectly because Republicans would actually buy it and be upset about it. That's the first thing. And the second reason why they chose Russia is because general Flynn, who was at that point so we're talking about September 2015 timeline when Stropp Talbot meets with Hillary Clinton, and they agree this plan to to to Right. Purity up Republicans with with Russia. At that point, general Flynn starts meeting with Republican candidates, not just with Donald Trump, but also with Ted Cruz, with every other Republicans. Any republican was gonna be directed up with Russia because that was that was the that was the conspiracy. And general Flynn used to work for Barack Obama as the head of Defense Intelligence Agency, and Barack Obama sent general Flynn to Moscow because they were cooperating on a bunch of issues. One of them was Boston Marathon bombing, which was done by Chechens, which was, you know, a huge problem for Obama. And so Russia had experience of fighting terrorism in Chechnya. So Jeneflin went to discuss that to Russia because Obama sent him. And he also they had cooperation about, you know, non nuclear non proliferation of the, you know, of the of the nuclear weapons. Yeah. Then, one of the Obama legacies, they wanted to leave Afghanistan, and Russia obviously had experience in Afghanistan. But then their neighbors. Yeah. Right. Then there was Syria. There was a bunch of things. So General Flynn was building relationship with Russia, not because he, like, likes Russia or hates Russia. Right? He was just doing what was, you know, he considered to be He was Speaker 2: doing his job. Speaker 0: Good good for America. Right? Speaker 1: Which is Speaker 0: to have Speaker 1: intelligence agency. That is your job. Speaker 0: Right. And specifically, also, the idea was that they wanted to, like, team up with Russia against China because they were worried that China was gonna otherwise, you know, become close to Russia. Right? And we know Speaker 1: that already happening. Yes. Speaker 0: We know that because the same people we're talking about, like Stefan Halper, like Richard Dyilov, who's the head of British intelligence, like the other people operating, say, m I m I six, which is British intelligence people operating out of Cambridge. At that point, they were super pro Russian because they felt they were advising Obama on how to, you know, make the relationship better, and that is why they had this Trubnikov guy who was the head of Russian intelligence formerly, but he became the guy who was doing all the peace talks and non nuclear talks, etcetera. He was meeting with this Cambridge lot. And John McClagland, the CAA guy, he was meeting with all these people. Right? And then they flip because when they decide to to to activate this Russia story, and they activate it for two reasons. One is because they will lend with the republicans and they're all old Russia hens, the the democrat guys. And the second thing is because general Flynn had dealings with Russia, and he was become gonna become very important republican person. You know, he was, you know, he was he was even a vice vice presidential candidate at some point, etcetera. And because he'd been to Russia, communicated with Russia, they could flip it, right, and make it look like he's some some some sort of, like, Russian, you know, asset. Right? That he's somehow Just Speaker 1: to recap, Svetlana, because it's hard for people who are not as familiar with all the different names and everything that's going on, is basically what we're talking about here is, is Hillary Clinton has been promised the presidency after losing to Barack Obama, and, now they have to find a way to get her in office. The the Clinton people hire a Republican dirty trickster by the name of Stefan Helper, who is also a CIA asset. And they hire him because they know how experienced he is at this. They also have Throbe Talbot in their corner who is an old Russia hand, and they they drag out the old enemy. They know that this is gonna be it's not gonna work with Democrats, but it works very well with Republicans. And so they can use it against the Republican. And they're looking at the they're looking at all the candidates right in this, February cycle, and they see, I mean, something which no one really expected, which was Donald Trump pulling ahead of everybody. But what happens at this time is that after a year of the Trump campaign reaching out to General Flynn, who is now forced out of the Defense Intelligence Agency under Obama, and he is now a free agent. And what happens is, as you said, he was meeting with a lot of different Republican candidates, but the Trump campaign was very serious about getting General Flynn. I know because I know General Flynn both professionally and personally for more than twenty years, and I was talking to him at the time when he was telling me they were reaching out, but he said, I I'm not doing this if people are not serious. And then after a year, they convinced him that they were very serious. He went down and met with Trump and he realized, wow, this is the guy he said to me, this guy is gonna win. And I honestly, thought he was nuts when he said it. There's no way. But I was wrong. And, I was wrong in part because the media machine was telling us all this stuff, and and and didn't quite realize at the time the depth of deception and dishonesty. So there was a major operation against president Trump by the Clinton campaign using people who were known CIA assets like Stefan Helper and who had switched sides from the Republican side and was using his knowledge to help the Democrats now. And Michael Flynn was a big problem for all of them because he was known when he was running the Defense Intelligence Agency and before that in his role in the in the military. He was a three star general with a lot of credibility both on the battlefield from at the war fighting level all the way to the top. But where he made enemies was that he wouldn't lie, he wouldn't falsify intelligence, he wouldn't alter intelligence, He wouldn't bow to the deep state. And what he was doing is he was telling the truth when they were lying. So when Obama was lying about Islamic extremes and Al Qaeda being on the run, General Flynn was going before congress and he was testifying they're taking territory across Iraq, ISIS for example, and they're gonna take more territory. This contradicted what Obama had said on sixty minutes that ISIS was the JV team. Right? And so what was happening is that general Flynn was forced out of the Defense Intelligence Agency because he made it difficult for the CIA to lie to the American people because he was another arm of intelligence that was not under their control. Speaker 0: That's, of course, John Brennan. Right? Sorry to interrupt. John Brennan say and and, of course, Jim Clapper, who was at that point general's boss as well as the director of national intelligence. So the people we we we're gonna talk about later Yes. They have history. Speaker 1: Obama wanted general Flynn to falsify intelligence and lie under oath when he testified before the Intelligence Committee publicly and behind closed doors, and he refused to do it. And they forced him out as a result. So when General Flynn joins the Trump campaign, boy, they really didn't like that, and they needed to have something against him, and they needed to have something against Trump. And that's when they created this fake story about about Russia drawing on other things in the past. Speaker 0: That's that's correct. And I think this is a great summary. And just to sort of start, so what we've been talking about at the moment and we've spent some time on it, is because we're talking about the origins, how they came up with the plan. And I can tell you from personal experience, as somebody who is a witness to the origins, I'm sort of like patient zero, I suppose, or ground zero to all of this, is that in summer autumn twenty fifteen, so this is when Donald Trump announced his candidacy, and this is when general Flynn started meeting with the Republican candidates. I Mhmm. A completely unknown person. So I was a graduate student and a teacher at Cambridge University, an author, and my speciality is nineteen thirties, specifically, the origins of the Soviet intelligence, the, Stalin, Second World War, you know, things like that. Right? And so I have zero Speaker 1: You are Russian, but you're living in The UK, and you Speaker 0: you So I immigrated so I was born actually in Soviet Union, strictly speaking, but what is now Russia. And I immigrated to The United Kingdom as a teenager, and I became a British citizen. And I was fortunate enough to be able to get into Cambridge University, which is one of the top three universities in the world. And actually, you know, English was my second language, so I I I don't know how I got in, but I did, and I was very very Speaker 2: lucky brilliant. Speaker 0: I thought. That's that. Alright. And my professor, so somebody I've known since I was 18, professor Christopher Andrew is going to actually become quite an important person in all of this because he was the chair of our history faculty. And so what happened is I was writing my PhD under my professor Christopher Engieux, and Christopher Engieux was good friends with somebody called Richard Djelof, who is the head of British MI six, they call it, which is British version of the CIA. And he was also friends with Stefan Halper. This is the guy that we call, you know, the spy. He was masquerading as a professor in Cambridge also. So he's an American citizen, but he was hanging out in Cambridge University pretending that he's this professor using it as a cover because what we now know Speaker 2: for once. Speaker 0: Is they were running European operations out of Cambridge University. Were using universities as a cover and that's where they run like, because they also I think we discussed last time, there's also NATO base, military base Yep. Called Molesworth, forty minutes from Cambridge University, where a lot of DIA and CIA people are stationed. Right? Speaker 1: And so I just wanna be very clear of what we're talking about. So so you have a professor there, professor Christopher Andrew, who becomes a very close friend of yours, and as far as you know, he's just a professor. Then you have sir Richard Dyilov, who was the former head of MI six, Britain's CIA, and he's also acting as a professor at Cambridge. Right? Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: And then in addition to that, Stefan Helper, the dirty tricks guy from the CIA. Right? You he's also act he has a cover at Cambridge University as a professor Speaker 0: as well. Because because what they need is they need to be able so so from my perspective, you remember I came to, you know, came you know, I started Cambridge University when I was 18, so this is '98. Right? We fast forward into 2015. So when I, of course, entered Cambridge University, met head of the history faculty, you know, I studied history, BA, bachelor degree, right, and masters and PhD, etcetera. So he's my university professor. That's all I knew back when I was a kid. Right? And then, obviously, you know, mature student. Then later much later on, so we're talking now 2014, 2015 period. Right? 2016. He my professor introduced me to Richard Dyelof, who was the head of MI six. He wasn't masquerading as someone. Right? Like, he was the head of MI six, but he before, and he retired and become the head of the one of the Cambridge colleges. But I thought it was like an honorary position. Right? I thought he's a retired guy. They're all old guys. Right? And then he also introduced me to this Cambridge professor, who is this American, Stefan Halper, and he actually went around telling people that he's CIA. Right? But I didn't believe him. Maybe you'll show the pictures, like, he's, like, really fat. He's, like, central casting CIA. Right? Which is why I didn't believe him. Because he's like really fat and his nickname, you can ask General Flynn, he's as the walrus because he's really really fat and he's also like very sweaty and he is an alcoholic. Know that because later on, it will come up with So he's Speaker 2: like a He's really gonna lose a lot of weight in jail. Speaker 0: Hopefully. So he's a really really nasty nasty piece of work, but I thought he was just like this old guy and, you know, he gave money to university, that's how he obtained his position. So remember, I'm completely naive at that point. And he just went around, like, 10 stories and his, father-in-law was somebody called Ray Klein, who's one of the original dirty CIA cowboys, they were called. So after second world war, they were looking for something to do, like like, how to make money and they started running all these operations. So his father-in-law is like the architect of the CIA kind of covert operations, like, know, do remember we discussed some of them with arming, you know, you know, people in different countries, etcetera etcetera. So basically doing loads of bad things, drugs, you know, whatever. So that's his father-in-law. So he's basically Halper is, like, part of the elite, you know, CAA, you know, family, I suppose. Right? But Yes. But to me, he was just like this fat, sweaty, ugly guy who was, like, really rude. So I paid zero attention to him. And he was a member of our group of I was invited so my speciality was nineteen thirties, and I was invited we'd come every week, all the students would gather and we will present our findings, like our documents. So each week, somebody will show, like, this is what I'm working on. This is my PhD. And sometimes, for my retired people will attend, right, like HALP or, like, Dear Laugh, but we didn't know that these were live operations. Right? We we just thought, as students, that they were just, like, this retired, like, old farts. Pardon me. Right? And so that was the picture as it was in 2015. And then strange things start to me. So I'm a complete unknown. Like, I don't know if 20 people read my research at that point, right, in life, including my family. And then I suddenly this is summer twenty fifteen. We now know that's because general Flynn, Donald Trump are meeting up. Right? But I don't know that at that point. I'm just a student. And Richard Diehl, the head of former head of MI6, suddenly wants to have lunch with me. Right? Like, why I mean, he okay. He's a friend of my professor, but why does he want to have lunch with me? And he starts talking to me about how much he likes Russia and that kind of stuff. I'm like, okay, fine. Right. And you will see soon the operation term for it is bump Right? Because they, by surprise, bump into you. Right? Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Is called bumping. Speaker 0: And then they can report anything they like because they have a stamp that they had a meeting with you, and then they can say, like, oh, she's a Russian spy or something. I later find out. But as far as I'm concerned, Richard Dyilov, he said, oh, I'm going to give some lecture about some Soviet stuff. Can you help me with that? Right? So, you know, I meet up with him. Help I'm completely naive. Then it gets better. I give a presentation at a conference, and then I'm there with my husband and in Cambridge. And then my professor said, I I want you to meet someone. And he kinda ushers my husband away for some reason. Right? And this is my professor whom I've known since I was a kid. I know his family, his grandchildren, his dog. You know, my husband's family knows him. We're all families. Right? We were all in this quiet village in Cambridge. Speaker 1: You've been at Cambridge from '98 to 2015 at Speaker 0: this Right. I'm like in institutions there. Right? And remember, I'm teaching students, you know, my master's work is in the Cambridge Library, you know, so within the Cambridge community, I'm quite an established, you know, good person, right, you know, highly intelligent they say, super whatever, within academic terms. But, you know, for very very small group of people, right, within within my study Then suddenly, he introduces me at this conference to this guy and he says, he's a fan of yours. This guy is John McLaughlin. The acting saying, director performer, John McLaughlin. Who who is a fan of me? Right? And this is this is September 2015. And he ensures that we have some time together alone in a room without my husband, without anyone else present. And this guy starts telling me some stories about how he loves Russia, and he only just recently had lunch with this Russian KGB guys, and I'm like, yeah, whatever. Like, I literally stand there nodding and kind of how do I get out of this meeting because I wanna go have dinner with my husband. Right? This is what we call bump ins. Right? Like, so he bumps into me Speaker 1: And Yeah. He bumps you. And then he can report you know, he does a report saying what happened at that meeting, and you have no idea if anything he writes is true Speaker 0: That's or right. Then the next thing that happened is a gentleman called Nakasone, who you would know as recent head of the National Security Agency, also comes to Cambridge and wants to meet me. And they say, oh, we're interested in your research about nineteen thirties, also wants to come to me. Wow. All these people suddenly this is an when you look back into the calendar, you know the precise dates are when when Donald Trump becomes candidates and when Hillary Clinton and Stropp Talbot and Jake Sullivan, who's a protege of Stropp Talbot and aide to Hillary Clinton, They decide on this Russia plan and they hire Halper. Right? So all these people suddenly start. And then the fourth person in the same time frame that wants to come and meet me is somebody called Alan Collar, and he's an FBI guy and Mhmm. Stationed in London. So I don't know if people know, but both the CIA and the FBI have what they called London station. So this is like their representatives abroad. Speaker 1: Yes. They Operates out of the US embassy typically. Right? Speaker 0: Correct. Both the FBI and the FAA operate out and so the official position of the FBI person in London is called Ligat Legalatasha, and then he has an assistant called assistant Ligat, and it will become important later. And this Alan Kologer, who's the Ligat, so he's the chief representative of the FBI in London responsible for liaising with British intelligence, also comes to wants to, you know, wants to hang with me in Cambridge. And he tells me a story that right? He tells me that he wants to leave the FBI, become a student in Cambridge, and can I help him? Because he wants to write a PhD. He's disillusioned with the FBI. Yeah. And just to fast forward a bit, I like to tell the story to the Durham investigators when they're investigating this grand conspiracy, and they collapse laughing because he's the most ambitious guy who will later become assistant director of the FBI for counterintelligence. So he's, like, the most ambitious guy they had. Later What an alliance? That he had that operation. Do remember they caught this Russian spies like Anna Chapman? He had that whole operation, but he's also known now I read up on him, right, is that he's known as part of the Hillary Clinton corrupt, like, cleanup team. Right? So whenever Hillary Clinton got into problems, like, with bribes or whatever, he'd come and clean it all up. Right? But I didn't know that. My professor introduces me to this guy to help him to start a PhD at Cambridge University. I know it sounds funny and stupid that I didn't understand it then, but remember, I was living in a normal world, not in this alternative reality, in the shadows that these people operate. And he joins we say, something called summer school in Cambridge, where all these intelligence guys were running this special, like, thing, which we now know as a front organization. But back then, it looked legitimate where American students would come to Cambridge for summer, and they study history or intelligence, and then they will get, like, credits for their, you know, for for their Speaker 1: For their degrees. Right. And and these programs student. Are just a Speaker 0: a student, not as a professor, but he joins as a student. And I remember making a joke, you should teach this stuff. Right? Like, why are you joining? And he joined it as a current to be next to me. Right? And then, we now know What? Speaker 2: Target on your back. Speaker 0: When they now put in the brochure for that group, they now put it in official brochure that Gina Haspel so this is this is the SAE director, Gina Haspel, who at that point was the head of London Station, is also a member of the summer school group. So mean Mike Morell, who is an allysate director, who is the one who organized the han Hunter Biden laptop, so all these characters that we know about today Yeah. Speaker 1: Mike Morell was the deputy to Gina Haspel, who Trump put in at the CAA in his first term, which is just unbelievable because Speaker 0: She's the member of this Cambridge group. So David Nunish, who's seen all the documents, he can't tell you what he's seen because they're classified, but he can talk about, you know, open information. That's where I come in. Right? Because because David Nunish sees it from the classified perspective. And remember, Kesh Patel worked for him. He was a chief investigator. So he saw all these documents from the classified stuff, right, because they hidden all of them. But I'm experiencing them openly. Right? Because they use Speaker 2: me real time. Speaker 0: Right. And why are they using me? Well, I was born in Russia, and I'm a woman. But most importantly, and this is something which is gonna become very important very soon, is at the moment, we're talking September 2015 when they officially kick off the the Russia gate conspiracy. But a year previously to that, I happened to attend a dinner that I was invited to by Richard Diloff and my professor Christopher Andrew and Stefan Halper to dinner where present was the head then of the DIA under Obama, General Flynn. And the dinner, we've been through all the details. It was completely innocent. There was a large group of people, and, I was never alone with him. We only met once, and he was visiting Cambridge. Speaker 2: And just to be Speaker 1: just to be clear, Svetlana, so a year before all these people descend on you, you are out of the blue invited to this dinner with the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in The United States Of Yeah. America, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. And you have no connection to any of this, you don't understand why you're being invited to this dinner. You In fact, Speaker 0: didn't want to go. Mhmm. Speaker 1: Right. You bet weren't you pregnant at the time? Speaker 0: No. I wasn't pregnant. So I was pregnant at the time of Russiagate in '14, I wasn't but I was with my husband, so he actually accompanied me to the dinner and picked me up for the dinner which is why then it would later become a Speaker 2: problem And he for just he took you Speaker 1: there and then he took you home, and instead they fabricated this story that at that dinner, you, you absconded with general Flynn to London and had, you know, fiery affair with him. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 0: And that's the thing. Speaker 1: Left with her husband and went home. Speaker 0: Right. So this is what we know now, but remember that Alan Collar so this is the guy who then later on comes to see me in fifteen. Speaker 1: This is the FBI guy out of the embassy in London. Speaker 0: We now know that he was running so so all the Stefan Halper was, you know, CIA and Georgia Trix guy for the Clintons, but, you know, they have many jobs. But he was also an FBI informer, CHS, they call him confidential human source, a paid, you know, FBI informer. He was on their books, so Alan Collar was responsible for him. But Alan Collar was responsible also for Christopher Steele, who you heard about because of the Steele dossier against Trump. And Christopher Steele were was on the books of the FBI. We have official documents, and Alan Alan Collar's deputy assistant leggard signed off the payments to Christopher Steele, he's been on their books since 2014. Right? I think Speaker 1: that is such a critically important piece of information. I just wanna make sure that everybody understands it. So in you have the the US embassy in London, the head legal representative, law enforcement representative, the the Ligat is Alan Kola. And he has two informants on his books. One is Stefan Helper, and one is Christopher Steele. Christopher Steele is British, Stefan Helper is American. Speaker 0: But but also, like, think he also has British citizenship. Yeah. Mhmm. Speaker 1: Yes. And he has British citizenship. And so Helper has done work for all kinds of people, but he's he's on the payroll of the CIA, and he's on the payroll of the FBI. Christopher Steele is on the payroll of the FBI, and the two people who are the main source of everything that comes Speaker 0: later. Everything. Speaker 1: The deal does get and the crossfire hurricane, all that investigation. The two sources responsible for everything on Russiagate are Stefan Helper and Christopher Steele, both who are on the payroll on the CIA and Speaker 0: the agency. That's right. And we obviously, at the moment, because we are focusing on the, you know, what happened to president Trump, but it looks like the dinner that I got invited to by Richard Dyilov, who is the boss of Christopher Steele, remember, at MI six and close friends. Speaker 1: Let's not forget that Christopher Steele also works for Richard Dyilov at MI six. So he's he's a British spy for for Dyilov, and he's on the payroll of the FBI and the CIA. And this is before any of this happens with Russiagate. Right? This is this is years before. So they all know each other. So what happens when Russiagate breaks and we hear about the Steele dossier and they say what a respected spy he is, what they don't tell you is this cleanup guy for the Clintons, Adam Kola Speaker 0: Never know. Speaker 1: Right? You're gonna Yeah. That Steele was his informant. And and not to confuse people, but later, just so you know, Leida Kohler is the FBI guy who signs off on the Mar A Lago raid. Speaker 0: So this when Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And I was so shocked when I read it in the news that the same guy who wanted to you know, remember, this is the guy who wanted to do PhD in Cambridge. Right? Speaker 1: Yeah. This is a guy that comes directly. Now I'm student. Speaker 0: And remember, at the point that you know, we'll come back and explain it later, but just just to show you what it's like to be on the receiving end of this massive conspiracy, tell Darren people because, you know, when I'm speaking to Darren people, I tell them, you know, like, this is whom I know, this is this, and they're investigating this Cambridge group. Right? Because they were doing the SAIA operations against president Trump. And I mentioned to them, oh, you know, and I, you know, I was, you know, you know, close acquaintance with with with Alan Collar. And maybe she didn't believe me, then they went, come back, check the files, come back. It's in the files that we made. Right? And because what happens is they hide everything. Right? So they hid my files and this is what Kesh Patel talks about, burn bags and, prohibits access folders. So any information they don't want people to find So I tell Darren people that, then they're able to go find the files. Speaker 1: And then find where it is. Speaker 0: Yeah. And then I tell them that this guy, like, they were like, how do you know him? I'm like, well, he randomly came to Cambridge and he wanted to, like, you know, abandon the FBI and become a PhD student in Cambridge. I mean, they were laughing because they're very serious people. Right? Like, they said professional investigators, prosecutors, thirty years at the FBI, very hardcore people, very serious. This is the first and only time I heard them laugh so hard because the one thing that Koller was known for he he wanted to become, like, director for the, you know, for the FBI. Right? He's, like, Speaker 1: super He was super never retiring and going to to teach anything anywhere. Speaker 0: Yeah. No. Exactly. And I feel like an idiot now, but back then, like, I took him to the I have photographs with him, like, took him to the archive, Churchill archive. I was, like one of my jobs was, like, I was helping you know, I was, like, an archivist, you know, dealing with the documents of of of so Churchill left a big archive. Right? So we have all the photographs, him holding the Churchill papers, etcetera etcetera, which is why I'm so dangerous to them. Right? Because I have all of the staff documented, because they had to Because leave Speaker 1: you know who the Cambridge group is. You know who this group of American and British spies and traders are, and you have been a witness to the building of their conspiracy because just to remind people, so this is 2015 when all these people are coming to you. But a year before that, out of nowhere, Sir Richard Dilove invites you he and your professor, Chris Andrew, invite you to this dinner at Pembroke House in Cambridge, right, which was which was Speaker 0: Oh, it's Speaker 1: Dilip's. That's what he was in charge of. And and they invite you to this dinner, and what happens there? Because they accuse you of having an affair with general friend Flynn, none of which is true. And why did they do that? They were they were trying to get rid of Flynn at the time because he was, for all the reasons we discussed, he was an inconvenience to Obama and all the others because he wouldn't alter intelligence, and he wouldn't bow to Brennan who was head of the CIA. He wouldn't carry the false narrative that they were pushing, and so they had to get rid of Flynn. And they set Flynn up by saying that he had an affair with you. However, what happens in this is in 2014, a year before the Trump campaign gets underway and all the rest of it. What happens is that other witnesses at the dinner say, that's nonsense. This didn't happen. Speaker 0: And that's what David Nunes so so this is his key point. Right? And he actually gave the interview to Dan Bongino before Dan Bongino became CIO director oh, sorry, FBI deputy director. And David knew because I never knew, right, which because, you know, I'm a sensible person, as you know, I'm I'm an academic, I'm a historian, I'm a researcher. If I don't have documentary proof for something, I don't say stuff. Right? You've noticed that, which is also I am so dangerous to them. Right? Because everything I say is documented. Right? It whatever it is I say. So I never actually knew whether that dinner was a setup. Right? Because it was strange that they invited a simple student to this very very important dinner with the head of Defense Intelligence Agency and they you know, I was sat next to Richard Diloff who is like the head of, you know, the head of former head of Yeah. Was in the dinner. At my sinks. Speaker 1: Right? He died. Speaker 0: He was next door. And they really wanted me to come. They really insisted, and I didn't want to go because, you know, I have other things in life with respect. Right? Like, I didn't even know the existence of the DIA. I mean, I'm sure, you know, okay, it's military intelligence. Right? But I I heard of the DIA, of course, of the FBI. You know, I'm I'm a Yeah. British girl in Cambridge, right, doing, like, some obscure, you know, research. Right? Speaker 1: Obscure studies in nineteen thirties Russia. Speaker 0: Right. So the last thing I need in my life is is to spend dinner with this old man, you know, like, dear life, you know, like, even my own professor, right, and some guy from America, like, it's it's not my thing. Right? That it's not my research interest. I would rather spend the evening with my husband, right, or do my work or do you know, I had to mark up the papers because I'm teaching as well at Cambridge. Right? And I have so many students, I have so many essays to mark up. Right? Like, it's it's so you know, I'm a serious person. Right? And they dragged me into this dinner and my professor says, and there's nothing like, you can't. You know, he's your boss. Right? Like, you can't just, like, not come. But I was sitting there frankly half asleep because I've been marking essays all the nights before as well and I had to do all the supervisions. And so the dean went, like, absolutely fine, but I was, like, set very far away from general Flynn. I was always accompanied. He was always accompanied. He left first with his with his, you know, people, with his, you know I think it's called military attache. Right? I I assume that formal formal borders for for the people who accompanied the the defense intelligence Speaker 1: Aid. Yeah. Speaker 0: Right. And then I left with my husband. And so, David Nunish said that he, back in '14 because I didn't know whether this dinner was a setup or not, but David Nunish said that Brennan hated Flynn and that that whole thing was a setup to get rid of him. Right? He's in the documents. So, obviously, I can't tell you from my perspective because nobody told me they set me up. Right? But we know that that's the opinion of David Nunish and he knows what he's talking about. So one of the things I think we discussed last time around is there's a very famous book by Jean Lucarere, who who is a former British spy. Speaker 1: It's called An original writer. Speaker 0: Right. And he wrote a book which was made into a very good film you should watch with Richard Burton called The Spy Who Came In From The Cold. And there, they have MI six intelligence person, you know, one of their agents, and they need him to go on an operation But they burn him. He doesn't realize that. Right? They they they they screw him. And what they do is they set him up to meet this woman, but he doesn't know they set him up. They they they he like, he has to leave the MI six. He gets a job in the library. She works in the library. They meet up by accident or so they think. And the reason why they need to meet up is because she's a communist. She's a British communist. And then they send this agent behind, you know, behind the Berlin Wall. Right? And he used to do some operations, and then they bring the woman in and they blow up the whole operation because they need to get one of their spies out. Like, long story. You should read the book. But the bottom line is in this story, the woman finds out that this was a trick against them. And she said, but how could they have known this? Like, how did they know that we would, you know, fall in love? Right? Like, they can't control, you know, who they and he says very yeah. He said, the operation did not depend on this. Right? He said, all they had to do is put us in the same room together, then they can report whatever it is they wanted. And this is in the book. Right? It's written down, one of the most famous books. And they said all we had to is for you to be young and pretty. And Mhmm. Okay, maybe I'm not super pretty but I was like one girl in the room. Right? So it was enough. So all we needed is for you to be young and pretty and for for us to be in the same room. And then they can write up love or maybe infatuation or anything they like in the report because it's their report. So we now know and and and, you know, dear love knows this guy. Right? Le Corre. Right? So it's a standard, you know, can you imagine my life has been turned upside down, but actually, the this sheer realization is just a standard m I six operation. It's just what they do. Right? Speaker 1: It's a standard tactic. Get two people in the same place and then you can make it look like whatever you want it to look like. Speaker 0: And remember, I think you've made the this really important point before, who are the people saying those things? Former head of MI six, you know, highly respected. Sir Richard Dearlife, you know, he's a knight, you know, knighted by the Right? Chair of history faculty, you know, Emeritus professor Christopher Andrew, who who are saying these things. Right? These lies. Then, of course, you know, John McLaughlin, this is the guy who, you know, as I told you, he laid Acting the director. Acting director, they say, why why would they lie? Right? Like, it looks and and I'm just some girl. So they put this picture of you know, these these characters of respectability, these academics, these civil servants, these high figures and intelligence. And they and it's not even their word against mine because I never even get to see the files because I don't even know Speaker 1: that they Nobody asks you. You don't get a chance to give you a word. It's all done behind your back. So basically, they set up General Flynn. They they falsely accuse him of having an affair with you. It fails because they, you know, because eyewitnesses disprove it. However, you know, I mean, I don't wanna get into this now because it's it's too much to decide, and Maybe they used that to help, force General Flynn to resign from the the DIA. Maybe they didn't. Whatever that Speaker 0: may have So the opinion of David Nunesh, and as I said, it's a it's a different story, but it's important for Speaker 1: this purpose. Get into that though. Speaker 0: He used the word that Brennan, who hated Geno Flynn Yes. Railroaded Geno Flynn out of the DIA using this affair story. But then what happens, it's now goes into the FBI files and sits there. Right? The story that Right. That that Flynn had an affair with the you know. And remember, they don't even have to say they had an affair. They might have had an affair, and now we need to start the investigation. Speaker 1: We we have credible reporting that Flynn might have had an affair with Speaker 0: the Russian confidential human source who is a reliable informant. They always say that reliable informant. So so this Stefan Halper who lied, so Stefan Halper wasn't even at the dinner, but he said Wait. Speaker 1: Wait. Wait. You're bearing the lead there. You're just rushing past it because because you find out years later Speaker 0: Years later. Speaker 1: Who the source was who said that you had an affair. But but before we get into all of that, let's go back to 2015. You you know, it's a year after this dinner, you know nothing about Nothing. Any activations. Right. You've never heard about any of that. You suddenly, you have all these people, all these high level people coming to seek you out at Cambridge, and then what happens? Speaker 0: The next thing that happens is obviously, it's not happening to me, but you'll see Yeah. How I'm connected to this in a second. Is general Flynn so he's been meeting with many Republican candidates, including Yeah. Donald Trump. And then he's sent to Moscow on a mission in December 2015. So although he's a retired IA person, but he kept his security clearance. And the defense intelligence agency sent him on a mission to Moscow, and the cover for the mission and he's attending some dinner with a company called Russia Today, which is a Russian TV state channel. And he sits famously. There's loads of photographs at a dinner next to Putin at this anniversary of this Gala dinner. But in fact, we now know from documents that senator Grassley has released that the head of the DIA, so the successor of general Flynn, general Stuart, he sent him to Moscow to obtain intelligence because at that point, they needed they were doing behind the scenes communications, and I I think you're much better than me at explaining how how those back channels work. Speaker 1: Well, you're you're exactly right. So at the time, you know, when all of this breaks into the news, they used this trip to to Russia that general to Flynn took after he retired from the Defense Intelligence Agency or was forced out. They used this trip as evidence that Flynn has this special relationship with Russia, I e, that he's a Russian asset, that he's, you know, a trader who's betraying his country and so on and so on. But what they what they don't tell you is is two important things. One is that when you have worked at that level, the highest levels of the US government on on Russia programs, for example, or Iran or North Korea or whatever it happens to be, there is a moratorium on you being able to visit those countries because of what you know. It's a national security risk. And so before somebody like general Flynn can even think about stepping foot in one of those countries, he has to get permission from the US government. In this case, you know, he's he's he's actually working with the DA, but we don't know any of this. And what they don't tell the public is the visit is approved by the US government. It's fully reported to the district. Speaker 0: So he gets given so for this declassified documents, which only now we know because we didn't have that at the time, is he gets what is called defensive briefing before he goes, and then debriefs them when he comes back. Speaker 1: Yes. And that is the general public only knows that now because documents are, you know, have been released. So we have the evidence. But anyone in the intelligence community or if you're connected, if you know how the intelligence community works, this is the same process for everyone. This is the same process for my husband because he worked in, in intelligence. He's not allowed to wasn't allowed to travel to certain countries for twenty five years after he retired. So it's the same thing. So if you have Because, Speaker 0: of course, when you leave, when you leave sorry to interrupt. When you leave an organization like the CIA, like the DIA, okay, you leave all the documents behind, but they can't erase your brain. They can't erase what you know. And so what happens is that, they have, you know, president sorry. General Flynn had presidential level clearance, they call it. So he, for example, would read as the head of the DIA when he worked for Obama, you know, the the briefings that every day they will put or so every week rather or so every every day? Every day, they will prepare Oh, Speaker 1: everything. Speaker 0: For So for the president. And he had I think what you explained is this TS TSSCI clearance even after the humanitarian. Speaker 1: Had higher than TSSCI. He had acute clearance, I'm sure. But but the point is that there are normal standard procedures for people who work at those levels. They cannot just take off to Russia without having the trip approved, without being monitored. They know that they are spied every sing on every single moment that they're gone, every part of their trip is monitored. And when they come back, they give a full defensive briefing. So that was one thing that the general public didn't But they Speaker 0: expect the general public not to know that. Exactly. Speaker 1: They know. They they count on the fact that most people don't know it. And so they make it look. They say, oh, how could he do this? And they make it appear to be one way, and it's it's all a lie. They're taking something that they know was was, was actually approved by the US government. And then on top of that, what you point out is that later, it was documents revealed that not only did General Flynn do all of those things which are required and expected of him by law, but he he was actually sent to Russia by Vince Vince Stuart who replaced him as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. So he was actually still working for the US government. Speaker 0: So But he couldn't tell it to anyone, not to you, not to his brother, not to you, you know, what is because it's classified so they can say anything they like about you and Speaker 2: Because you can't say anything they Speaker 0: it's classified. Speaker 1: And then all the political operatives masquerading as journalists that they have across the media, they love to take this, and then, of course, they're gonna run it at the Washington Post, you know, and wherever else. Speaker 0: What happens. So I obviously don't know that general so remember, met general Flynn once in, 14. We had some further correspondence at the request of my professor, professor Christopher Ranger, to do with our joint work between the Defense Intelligence Agency and Cambridge University because they were going to sponsor some of our research, etcetera. But other than that, I never met him. And, of course, after he left the DIA, the contact pretty much dried out. And then the Speaker 1: next course, that that is another that's another element in this setup. Right? Svetlana, that's the the equivalent of a bump. Because what they're doing is having you maintain contact so they can say, you met General Flynn at this dinner, and and you you continue to communicate with him. But of course, that's that's set up by your professor who's also a spy. Speaker 0: Right. And this is your friend. This is your man. He said, oh, Svetlana, why don't you write an email to General Flynn and invite him to come to an event in in our future event? Or why don't you send him this document? He would be very interested. And, you know, again, I know it sounds naive now with everything we know, but put yourself in my shoes as a regular student who's listened to what their professor is telling them to do and has no idea. And also, again, I I know I keep saying that these guys are old. Right? Like, not only do I did I not understand all this all this, like, secret shadowy world, but also, it's like like my professor, right, he has a hard you know, pacemaker. Right? Speaker 1: Yeah. He came helpless. Speaker 0: Yes. I had to help him with like, you know, his pacemaker stopped working because like his electricity went out and it's connected up to the Internet. You know, I I I would like I know his grandchildren. Right? You know, I know his wife. Speaker 1: Just just don't think that you're being set up. And and when we think of a spy, we think of James Bond. We don't think of some old man with a pacemaker. Right? Speaker 0: And that's why they're so good. And that's what I what I should have realized, this is a very interesting point you raised. I know it's a bit by the by, but it's a good lesson for our audiences, is one of the things he actually taught us so my professor Christopher Andrew, he was a head of history faculty, and one of the courses he ran is history of intelligence, which is how I became part of the seminar. It was one of our interesting courses at Cambridge. So they would start with, you know, like, you know, second world war, code breaking, Bletchley Park, and things like that. Cambridge spies, you know, can feel with people like that. And one of the things he told us is that British intelligence, one of their best operatives was was a a disabled elderly woman, and they would send her I don't know if it's a true story or whether they were just saying it, but they they would send her abroad and people would talk around her like, freely, and she was able to collect information because she was disabled. She was in a wheel chair and old. So nobody thought she's a master spy. Nobody thought she's like a James Bond Bond spy. So they were very intrigued around her. And that's what what I felt Speaker 1: Same with Carlson's father in the CIA, by the way. Sorry? Same with Tucker Carlson's father in Speaker 0: the Alright. Interesting. Interesting. Mhmm. So to fast forward back to this, so so general Flynn now is about to become he then officially becomes a member of the Trump campaign early twenty sixteen. And the moment he becomes the member of the Trump team Mhmm. Unknown to me, but I received I don't know what happened with Jen Flynn on that side of the Atlantic, but on this side of the Atlantic in Britain, I received a strange invitation from my professor, professor Christopher Renge, who says that me and my husband should come to his home and his wife is gonna cook dinner for the helpers. So by the way, one just aside, all spies, they always work husband and wife. Right? So helper has a wife who's a spy. I assume professor Andrew's wife, I know now probably thinks she's a spy. And he invites me to this dinner out of the blue. And I don't understand why he wants me to have dinner with the helpers because I have no connection. So Stefan Halper, this very fat guy, the walrus, sweaty, ugly Yeah. Guy who goes around, been sad, been rich, and whatever. I met him a few times because we were, like, within the same, you know, university, but we had no connection. Maybe we exchanged, like, two boards with each other, right, in the whole history of Yeah. Five years or something. Suddenly, have to attend this dinner with him. Right? And I'm, like, I don't wanna attend dinner with this. Like, in general, I, you know, I don't want to attend any dinners with anyone. Right? I have my own life, but in particular with this guy because I don't know he's this master spy. I just know that he's like really unattractive horrible person and why would I? So I just like declined and this is January 2016, I declined. And he gets very very angry with my professor to the point, and I couldn't understand at the time that he breaks up my book contract. The two of us were writing a book together And it was very important for me as a first time author. We had a very good contract from, Norton Publishers and and and Harper Collins and all these guys, and he breaks the contract with me because he says it was very disrespectful for me not to attend this dinner, and I I couldn't understand why. What we now know from reporting, which we didn't know before, is that, actually, somebody very important who's a source for this, article that that, you know well, I gave an interview on Fox News describing all of this, they say nothing is a coincidence when it comes to Halper. So if Halper comes into your life, it's not just an it's not a social event. There has to be an operation. And we now can link the fact that general Flynn becoming the person on the Trump campaign to the sudden appearance of Harper in my life. Because we also know that later on, he does the same thing with Carter Page, who is another Trump campaign adviser, to George Papadopoulos, to Paul Boniford, that he organizes these bombs or these meetups or something something something in the moment these people become part of the Trump campaign. Right? So the most important Trump campaign adviser is General Flynn, and the plan, the plot that they had, we now know, is that he was gonna wear a wire. How we know that? Because we have all these documents, how he wore a wire around Carter Page, how he wore a wire around George Papadopoulos, whom they flew to London to meet him, etcetera. So he was gonna record me, and he was going to mention his connections with Russian intelligence because remember, in the start of the conversation, we said that the originalist people work with Russians. So he is a personal friend of somebody called Vaishyslav Trubnikov, who used to be the former head of Russian intelligence. So in conversations with Carter Page and in conversations with Papadopoulos that they later used to, you know, get the FISA, the illegal surveillance on the Trump campaign, Halper drops in things about his contacts with Russian intelligence, but to make it look like, oh, do you know Vyacheslav Chublikov? Oh, I should introduce you. Why don't you come to Cambridge? And then they can twist it, right, in in a search warrant or in investigations or when they try and jail people to say that they're connected to Russian intelligence because he's like, he's what's the word marking? Speaker 1: He's creating the connection. He's painting. Yes. He's creating the appearance of a connection and then they claim a connection. And then they use that so that they can, surveil you. Speaker 0: Right. So luckily, I don't go to that dinner. Right? But, I mean, they they just found another way. I refused the dinner, but the the now we know the fact remains that they want to use this preexisting fake story that they themselves manufactured about me and Jonathan having an affair and me being a Russian spy in order to start the investigation of the Trump campaign. That's the plan. Speaker 1: And we we know this because the documents that have been released from the FBI show and and from the Christopher Steele dossier show that they would that Stefan Halper told the FBI that you had an affair with general Flynn. Speaker 0: Right. And don't forget, you make a good point about Christopher Steele because Christopher Steele always remember because people heard of Christopher Steele, maybe they haven't heard of Halpo because his name was being protected, but they work hand in glove because they had to create I think it's called circular reporting, right, where they are the two Speaker 2: The appearance that there was Speaker 1: more than one source when there wasn't. Speaker 0: To corroborate each other. The way it works is called human to human intelligence under normal circumstances. If you receive, as an intelligence service, you do an intercept, you know, you listen to a phone call or you you, you know, you read a message, that's objective unless it's forged. Right? So if somebody writes to somebody a message, that's objective information, so signals intelligence, old style. So it's anything to do with electronic or writing things down or voice. But then they have human intelligence, human, which is informers. Right? The snitches is depending on on their preferred yeah. And this informants, right, because you have no way of very if you don't have SIGINT, if you don't have a piece of paper, if you don't have a phone call, how do you know what these guys tell you is the truth? So the standard procedure within FBI, within the CIA is you have to have more than one source, right, to tell you the same thing to corroborate. And also, that source needs to be reliable. And how do they do it legally? Okay. How they assess whether source is reliable or not? Perversely, the more money they pay to the source, the more the more reliable it is considered. So when they applied for the FISA, believe it or not, they applied on for the FISA to say this is illegal surveillance based on Halper and Still Lights, which they coordinated. But they said that still in Halper were reliable sources because they've been working for us for many years. Right? Yeah. And also because we paid them all this money. Right? So the more you as the taxpayer pay these people to lie, the more they can say to the FISA judge, which is of course their friends, as we now know Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 0: That these are really reliable sources because look how much we've been paying them. Right? Is it's just complete it's like a self, you know, it's like a circular reporting. Speaker 1: Self licking ice cream cone kind of thing. Yeah. So they so they have their they have their own people. They create these false lies. Steele turns his into a dossier, which we know was paid for by the Clinton campaign, Infusion GPS. They were running the payments through Mark Elias, the the dirty lawyer. Speaker 0: And of course, mean, behind all this is Soros. Right? So Soros gives money to the Hillary campaign. Hillary campaign so they always operate on this, and this is one of the challenges when I worked for the Dharam inquiry they had is that, this is what we call dark money. So first of all, the money is like layered. So we know Reid Yeah. Hoffman, the billionaire was involved. Right? This is the founder of LinkedIn. Huge anti Trump guy. We know his source Speaker 1: first, by the way, to cancel me. Kick me off LinkedIn. That's like, read half of it. Kick me off LinkedIn. Yeah. Speaker 0: Mhmm. Interesting. So we'll we'll get to him. Yeah. We'll we'll get to him. And so and so what happens is we have these billionaires. Right? Those billionaires, for all of their layered operations, they they give money dark money, it's called, right, to the campaign, in this case, Hillary campaign. I mean, Soros admitted it, other people didn't admit it. Right? They sponsor Hillary campaign. Hillary then hires lawyers called, Perkin Perkin. Perkin. And the reason why they hire these lawyers is nothing to do obviously, you don't you don't need the lawyer, right, to run Deutsche Bank. Speaker 1: No. They hide the payments through Speaker 0: the law firm. Yes. And the operations because it's called attorney client privilege. So one of the problems Darwin had for ages is theoretically, your communications with your lawyer are covered under attorney Speaker 2: Privilege. Also, of course, when Speaker 0: it comes to president Trump, they threw it out and then many other defendants. But when it comes to Hillary, it's sacred. Right? So what that means is any emails or communications that Hillary has with Elias, right, are protected by this attorney client privilege and then Elias has with Elias then goes so they layer it up. Right? It's like a money laundering. Same thing. Elias then hires, Fusion GPS. Who's Fusion GPS? This is Washington group of former Wall Street journalists who are actually, you know, some of my, you know, people I've spoken to. They said that the way they advertise their services isn't okay. They're journalists, but they also journalists that government or, you know, all these corrupt people take seriously. So they can if they work for you, they can get an investigation open on your competitor. Government investigation. So the way that works, and this is what Darwin people explained to me, it's about injecting poison into the government system. So if you are on the approved list because remember also why Bruce Orr works with Fusion GPS, etcetera. Bruce Orr is this is this DOJ guy, his wife Nelly Orr is a CA person working for Brandon, but also working for Fusion GPS. So Fusion GPS had the special access to the government. Speaker 1: Was the yeah. It was DOJ. Yeah. Speaker 0: Yeah. And and and and Speaker 1: and they go with the Russian specialist. Speaker 0: Can inject the poison and assist and it spreads around the system. So then Fusion GPS works for Christopher Steele. So Fusion JS hires Christopher Steele. A, they create all these things. But, remember what's Christopher Steele and what's Stefan Halper? They're official informers on the FBI files. They're classed as reliable. So their poison they inject also spreads through the government system. Right? So the combination then what happens is all of these people feed the FBI, but they also feed the media. Because what happens is the FBI then uses the media articles that that's this their own people themselves created and coordinated between each other, right, in order to they use that as evidence as well. So then it becomes circles. For example, Halpersteel speaks to, let's say, Washington Post to the Washington Post, their friend, you know, Ignatius, for example. Right? They they use this information as independent evidence, all of the same thing that they already have. Speaker 1: Lot of journalists is pretending to be independent as well, by the way, and they're not. Speaker 0: And that's what Durham found. And so what did Durham found specifically, and this is what is gonna be the central document in this conspiracy because in order to have a conspiracy back to where we started, is you need to have a group of people who are furthering the same plan. So they don't even have to meet. They don't even have to know each other. They might they might not. It doesn't matter. They have to have a plan. Hainzily, because they're all lawyers but also they need to cover their asses, pardon my French, They wrote it all down. They had a plan which they, put together back in 2015 as we discussed. Mhmm. Then they formalized in 2016, and the plan is to so Hillary had these two problems. Well, a, she was a terrible candidate, which is by the by, but specifically, she had two problems that were gonna cost her the election. One is her health. So remember, like well. They were hiding from the public but everyone knew within, you know, her campaign that, you know, she she was on drugs and she was had several health problems and she and she famously collapsed, I think it was two months Speaker 1: before one event in New York Speaker 0: they threw her in the truck and, yeah, covered up. Speaker 1: Yeah. When the agents were were having to basically help her to the car because she could hardly Speaker 0: And I think I think they were hiding. Right? Like, they were trying to hide with their bodies so the cameras couldn't take the picture, but they did. And the second problem they had is email problem. And what's the email problem is that after the scandal, she resigned and she was subpoenaed by the Republicans to answer questions to the Benghazi committee. And on the day that she received the subpoena for the from the Benghazi committee, she deleted 33,000 emails from her email server Speaker 2: that Yes. Speaker 1: A bleep blitz scandal. Speaker 0: Right. And then Speaker 1: She didn't just delete them. She destroyed Speaker 0: destroyed them. Speaker 1: She had them destroyed. Speaker 0: Yes. However, General Flynn, among other things, but the most important thing in this, he gave evidence against her in the Benghazi committee and also against all these other people, but also, he went on TV and he said that Hillary should pull out of the campaign now because these emails will resurface. Right? We'll find them, effectively. And here, as a national security authority, is saying that she should go to jail. So do remember this famous lock her up? That wasn't just a figure of speech. Speaker 1: The lock her up rally was real. Speaker 0: Not only she was going to lose the election, election, but it's the fact that the classified information that she possessed on the server Yep. Could end up in the hands of a of a hostile foreign power or in any hands, to be honest. Russia, China, Iran, or even domestically or Israel, you know, doesn't matter. Right? The point Speaker 1: is Broke every law of classification. How first of all, she should have had two servers. She the way it was stored, the way it was sent, the people who had access to it. I mean, there's no part of the law relating to classified information that she didn't break. And Comey coming up with this idea that you had to have intent to do it is nonsense. That's not what it says and everybody knew it, but they they they were trapped because it was so obvious to to anyone who'd ever had a security clearance or knew anything about it that she was guilty. And so he he he ended up doing this botched press conference where he laid out how guilty she was and then made up this thing about intent and said we're letting her off the hook. Speaker 2: And That's right. And and Speaker 0: what Flynn was saying is she was claiming that, like, she didn't realize the letter c stands for classified. Okay. But Sure. Mhmm. When you look at these things, not only she broke every rule and you know that because you've, of course, interviewed many intelligence professionals, and it's also common sense. Right? Speaker 1: And read the law. Speaker 0: You you know, people I mean, I think Adam Lovinger, for example, you know, is one of the people at the DIA. I think he got prosecuted for, like I think he took, like, I think he was reading a work document on the on the airplane and he was only supposed to read it in the office and it wasn't even highly classified. Speaker 1: Strict and it's very clear. Speaker 0: Yeah. So if they want to, like, they can get you for this classified stuff. And of course, if they don't, they don't. But what general Flynn was making the point of is if you have proof that the emails ended up with a foreign power, you go to jail. So we've now seen that John Bolton got raided. Right? Trump's national former national security adviser got raided because Iran hacked his emails. So you now have proof of harm. Whatever promise said, if general Flynn could prove that these emails ended up in the with the foreign country Speaker 1: Foreign hand. Speaker 0: It wasn't just she was gonna she was not just gonna lose election. She was she she was going to jail and bunch of other trouble. They had to sort this problem out. Now, Soros is calling them up. He's getting upset, her chief sponsor because, you know, she already lost election to our Gabbana. In the media. And they said, don't worry, we have a plan. Don't worry about it. Right? Speaker 1: Don't worry, we have a plan. Here Speaker 2: we go. Speaker 0: What is our plan? The plan consists Right. Of two how we know about it? Because they wrote it down. The plan Speaker 1: Which is in the documents, in fact, there's that there's that letter. Right? It's handwritten notes from John Brennan, that's one of the documents specifically that you're referring to, where he uses Stefan Helper's code name Mitch and says that Hillary this is the Hillary plan tied Trump to Russia. Speaker 0: That's right. Speaker 1: And and all these documents are available on our That's right. Speaker 0: That's right. So we will make them available hopefully within the video or online. The specific what what we're talking about is outline of the plan, which I know about because I worked with the Darwin investigation, but because also you would have seen it with your own eyes, you just didn't realize. Right? Because every article you have seen, every investigation you heard about, it was actually implementing this plan that this is your conspiracy. Right? This is where we we're now getting closer to accountability because they wrote it down. What that shows and I think John Radcliffe, is a lawyer, I think he explained it really well, is when you have people sort of around the table or, you know, technically or not technically, they don't have to be president in the same room, but if they're all further in the same plan, which is to interfere at that point in the election, right Yeah. To make sure that American people don't elect this president, they elect another president. That's conspiracy. Right? I see it. Uh-huh. So you so what is the conspiracy? They said that he they literally wrote it down. In order to distract and reason I keep repeating, they wrote it down because normally, you know, it's like stuff out of the movies. Right? Normally, you don't have evidence about these baddies. Right? Normally, you kinda know something bad happened, but how are gonna prove it? How are gonna catch them? Speaker 2: Well, they Speaker 1: wrote case where it's evidence. Speaker 0: They wrote it down. They wrote it down. What do they write down? They so an adviser to Hillary Clinton called a foreign policy adviser called Judith Smith, she communicates with a man called something Benedetti. We'll look him up. Anyway, George Soros guy. No. Speaker 2: I think. That that Bernada. Speaker 0: That's it. Speaker 1: The deputy director of the Open Society Foundation for George Soros. Speaker 0: So Sorry. Julian Speaker 1: Julian Smith was working for Hillary Clinton, and she is communicating with Bernardo, and basically, they put these emails out in the Open Society Foundation that lay out the plan. Speaker 0: The plan. And what is the plan? They said that Hillary approved the following plan. Part one of the plan is to demonize president Trump by linking him to Putin and to say that Russia hacked the DNC. Yes. And put it through the media. Right? This demonization. And the second part of the plan is to start the FBI investigation of the Trump campaign. And the email specifically says, and then later after, you know, we prepare the media ground, the FBI will pour the oil on the fire. Now Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 0: If you look read the whole Darwin report, every single bit of it, pretty much, with regards to this, is all about what they did before and after this plan. So every single so Elias meeting with Fusion GPS. Christopher is still meeting with Elias. They're all meeting with the journalists. They're meeting with the FBI. Stefan Halper meeting with the FBI. Stefan Halper meeting with the media. All of those things, all the things you kind of know about but you know all the individual bits. Alexander Downer going to the US embassy. Goes to the US embassy to meet, to report George Papadopoulos. He met months previously, but he is reporting that George Papadopoulos told him in the London bar whilst they were in the toilet. It's like bizarre Speaker 1: dirt on Hillary Clinton. Speaker 0: Russians that Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton, but then it got twisted. He said he only mentioned dirt, then they said, oh, actually, what did they meant that they're gonna hack the DNC, but the meeting was in May, and he only goes to see they say he went to see the FBI, but he doesn't go to see the FBI. He goes to the US Embassy in London where Gina Haspel is, where the FBI guys are, basically this kind of nest to see somebody called Elizabeth Dibault, who is a Hillary Clinton person and she actually was involved in Benghazi, a bunch of other things, and he goes to see her on the day that Hillary Clinton formally approves the plan. And by approving, I mean financing of the plan. Right? Because of course, the plan, as we've been discussing in the first part of the program, has been in existence since September 2015. Right? But now we have the formalization of the plan because we're now a few months before the election. So all this election dirty tricks is they they have the kind of, like, t day and then they go minus. Right? So if the election is in November, then you have to act in July. And somebody connected with the explained to me the reason why they had to also act in July, August, is because there is a formal DOJ break on how 60 before the election, you cannot investigate a political candidate. So they had Speaker 1: to provided as election interference at that point. Speaker 0: Right. So they So you had to do everything before Right. You Yeah. And so what that means is, for example, if you take like Washington Post, right, you will have a meeting between, let's say, Elias, is a lawyer for Hillary Clinton, or Christopher Steele, or Stefan Halper on the date around, and then the next day, there will be an article So the point where some of them were even paid by Fusion GPS. So so David Nunes discovered that Fusion GPS paid journalists and journalists paid Fusion GPS for the stories. So none of this was organic. So all this brainwashing they created, you know, the fog of war. Right? They seeded the battlefields. All this information that you guys lived in all this time hearing all this Russia Russia Russia stories, they were not organic. They were part of the Hillary plan. And so what Dora was Speaker 1: Well, and what that's called, that tactic is called ambiguity increasing. So every time you turn around, they've thrown another thing out there. One minute it was, you know, the meeting in the in the tower, the Vigninsky Tower meeting, And then it's the, you know, the the servers with Deutsche Bank, and then it's this thing, then it's that thing. This Trump person went to Russia. This Trump person met with a Russian person. This Trump person had a a meal in a Russian restaurant. I mean, they just honestly excuse my French. They throw as much shit in the air as they can, and so that they can use ambiguity to obscure the truth. They make it very difficult for the people on the receiving end of this information who have limited they're limited to what they're hearing and seeing. They don't have any of this context. They don't know about any of these meetings. Speaker 0: And they were a trust. I think you covered quite well. They you know, The Washington Post, The New York Times, you know, that generation grew up with this being your information. That that is your newspaper record or MSNBC or CNN. That's where Speaker 2: you get your newsroom. Speaker 1: And then yeah. And then you'd have no idea that not only I mean, because you sort of think, well, where there's smoke, there's fire. You know, you don't think it can be completely and utterly made up, and yet it is. Speaker 0: It's unbelievable. Ridiculously documented. All of this is is is highly sophisticated. It's organized. That's why you need Fusion GPS because Fusion GPS coordinated with the media So we have emails between Fusion GPS and journalists, and Fusion GPS will tell them, you need to write this article, for example, about Carter Page or Michael Flynn. Right? You need to write this article. Then the journalist from, like, Washington Post or anyone else, they send them the article back. They mark it up. It's really that and Darren was exposing all of this. Right? So it's all documented that all the articles you have seen, they're not organic. Now why did he need to see those articles? So the plan needed two things. Right? One is they had to have this Russian interference in the US election. That was the first bit. Right? They had to manufacture that. That's why you had this DNC hack story and some other stories. Right? Now okay. Bad enough if you take it at face value that Russia interfered, but Trump can, candidate Trump can turn around and say, yep. Okay. They might they might not interfere, but that's nothing to do with me. Right? So the second part they need to have is they need to have active participation from the Trump campaign in this what they created this conspiracy with Russia. That Russia is trying to install Trump and people in the Trump campaign are helping it. So for that, they needed to create create the the, contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Russians. Yes. But Russians in the position of Russian intelligence. Right? So how do they create it? But they didn't we know it didn't happen, but they need to create it. So how do they do it? So first, they create the smoke story of Russian interference, and then the next is they put in the media and into the FBI the story about the contact. So what happens is in parallel to each other, two confidential human sources for the FBI, Stefan Halper, Christopher Steele, go to the FBI at the same time and say, hey. I know that Carte Page, Trump adviser, met with, this oil guy. I forgot his name. Basically Sharadar. Yeah. Szechen Szechen, the head of Russian oil. He's close to Putin. He's there for Russian intelligence, blah blah blah. And they report this. So both still reports this about Carter Page and Halper reports it about Halper Speaker 1: And they're both lying. Speaker 0: They're both lying. Didn't happen. Carter Page said I didn't meet with Sachin, and we know that because so so so Halper meets with Carter Page, and Carter Page, remember, this is CA officer, but he's Speaker 1: Yes. Carthage was a graduate of the Naval Academy. He was a naval officer and he was he was working for the FBI and the CIA. He's the one who the the FBI lawyer removed from the CIA emails the evidence that he was actually on their payroll so that they could take, their application to the FISA court and get permission to spy on him. Speaker 0: Because because the CIA sent pacifiers to Moscow, but the FBI said we'd say it helped type thing. That the FBI said that he went to Moscow because he was working for Russian intelligence, but in fact, was working for US intelligence. And they knew it. They changed the word results Speaker 1: for US intelligence and they did why. Speaker 0: So so this this lawyer at the at the FBI added the word he's not a CAO operative. Right? Speaker 1: Put out. Speaker 0: Mhmm. Then judge Boesburg, who's now in the news a lot. Right? Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 0: He let off that lawyer. So that lawyer who fabricated actually forged information, lied to the court, defrauded the US court. Yes. And also jail. Kevin Kleinsmith. He was supposed to go to jail. The prosecution were asking, for him so this is one of the Durham cases. So they were Speaker 1: asking then the the media ran cover and said, he was low level and it wasn't important and he Speaker 0: wasn't said doing he suffered enough and didn't give him any jail time. And in fact, they even risk he only gave him community service. And normally, it's unheard of, right, not to have jail time for forging. He admitted he plead guilty. Right? They had all the evidence. And he was by the way, he was writing this email saying viva la resistance. So he was, like, part of this, like, anti Trump resistant group. Judge Boisberg and this is why, you know, I know that, like, we kind of go back with the force a bit, but it's very important for the listeners to understand that it's all ongoing. So everything they think is happening today is new. This is why I leave in this alternative universe, right, to everyone else because I've been looking at this for ten years. So, you know, you see Maggie Goodlander in the news organizing sedition, but I know that she's the wife of Jake Sullivan who's been organizing this sedition from '17. So none of this is ancient history. Judge Boisberg Yeah. He's a resistance judge. He let off another resistance member, so this is part of his conspiracy. So whatever else that he's doing, you know that he's part of this whole thing. Right? So none of that you know, it's not about Russia. Right? It's not about Ukraine. It's not about impeachment. It's not about gen six. It's not about Hunter Biden. It's all just one big conspiracy against the president of United States that they don't like and they wanna get rid of. Right? And they go on and on and on. That's why we call it, you know, continuing conspiracy. So back to, what's happening in August 2016. So we're now getting very close to the the Yeah. Documentary evidence of the conspiracy, which is that they all arrange that they all will go to the FBI at the same time and flood the zone with the with the media who works for them and in conjunction with them, and they kick start the FBI investigation. So they inject this poison, right, into the government system. So what happens is, for example, Carter Page we're talking about is Halpern still both go to the FBI and say that he, on a trip to Moscow, he met with Setyan. And Setyan is a friend of Putin, he's Russian intelligence of the you know, whatever. He's like a oil guy. Setyan said sorry. And Halper meets with Cartes Page, and Halper records the conversations because they need a recording in order to submit to court that they have all this evidence. Cartier Page denies this on the tape. He says, but I didn't meet with the guy, and they twisted to say that he didn't deny. Then Halper said to Halper introduces this idea that he knows we have all the recordings. Right? They've been released. So what I'm talking about is actual documents. Speaker 2: Yeah. But when just to just to Speaker 1: make it clear for the audience, we only have the recordings later. Later. When all of this is being reported in the media and Carter Page is not even given an opportunity to defend himself, They can say whatever they like, and they lie repeatedly. They tell the media he did this, he did that, he said this, he said that. And when the evidence comes out years later, nobody's connecting it. But what Carter Page is left with is a life and a reputation that is absolutely shattered. Speaker 0: We have an actual email that Durham found where the founder of Fusion GPS emails Tom Hamburger of the Washington Post and says, you must print a story about Carter and Moscow because remember, this is in parallel cons when something doesn't happen, right, so when an event happened, you will have all these people, maybe they don't remember things exactly. Right? But when something doesn't happen, that's your conspiracy. Because if something didn't happen, why are people repeating the same story? Well, because they all agreed on that. Right? What's happening is on the same day that Christopher Steele goes to the FBI and say that my Moscow sources are telling me that Clarissa Page met. So so he's pretending that he has his MI6 sources in Moscow, like a network, and his sources in the Kremlin are saying that Klarzpage Yeah. Met with this guy. Right? A lie. But he says that's from his source. Okay. That's one piece of information. Then Halper says, I met with Kartz page. I met with Kartz page in Cambridge. We'll come back to that. It's his July conference. And he told me he came to this conference on the way from Moscow Nice. And he told me he met with Sitchin. Report shows that he said no such thing. But it doesn't matter because the FBI wants to obtain surveillance. They want to investigate the Trump campaign and potentially, you as insurance posted to jail them. So they put down him at recession. Right? Then we have Fusion GPS all on the same time frame. Glenn Simpson you know, the moment Hillary approves the plan, Glenn Simpson, founder of Fusion GPS yeah. We have this. Right? They write to Tom Humberger of the Washington Post, put in the article that Carter Page met a session. Tom Hamburg, although he's in the payroll of Fusion GPS, but he comes back and says, yeah, I've spoken to my sources. They said it's bullshit. They use the word bullshit. They said, in the theater more. Right? Okay. They can't put that he met with Moscow in Moscow with Sachin because his own Washington Post colleagues in Moscow say it's not possible because Sachin is a really important guy. He's head of Yeah. One of the biggest oil companies in the world. And they don't believe it. Who's Karthippe? Speaker 1: So what happens if they own some of the journalists but they don't own all of them and they can't quite get away with this lie. Speaker 0: Well, because it's so bleeding obvious. So what happens is instead of putting the story that he met with Sechen, they Hamburger puts the story that at the Cambridge conference, Karthu Page made pro Russian statements. Right? And Mhmm. Meets it to the guy who was president of the conference, which is the Savi Stefan Halper who is part of this conspiracy group that he met with all these important intelligence people in Moscow. Right? So they just go around Speaker 1: Yes. And just just to recap for people because we're going back to the conference in Cambridge, what you're talking about is in the 2016, they hold this conference where Stefan Halper is there, Richard Dielov, the former head of MI six, your professor who's the Speaker 0: Probably yeah. Probably Christopher Steele, yeah, who works for Richard Dielove. We don't know if we should because we don't have him on the program, but he works with Dielove. Right? So he probably was there. Then we have my professor who is MI five. Then we have Stephen Schragge who is a CIA guy, and then we have Martin Albright. So Martin Albright Massive. Speaker 1: From The US. Another Clinton person. Speaker 0: Mhmm. Right. And she Basically, they have Speaker 1: a conference where all these spies can meet and they set up Carter Page because they invite him and on his they have him come there on his way back from Moscow, and then of course they lie about, you know, what he said Speaker 2: at the conference. And he's never given the chance Speaker 0: to defend And he even goes so much to say that he approached Madeline Albright, he he's invited to this. Right? But they tried to make it look like he works for Russian intelligence and he was, like, trying to penetrate, you know, the Hillary campaign by approaching Madeline Albright. There's, like, an MPI report about that. That's, like, the degree. And then Alexander Downer, who is going to be the guy Speaker 1: That's great. For George Speaker 0: Shimodopoulos, and therefore start the Crossfire Harkin investigation. He's also at that conference. It's so coordinated. It's ridiculous. Right? Speaker 2: It's so coordinated. Speaker 0: Mhmm. And then what Speaker 2: And this is Speaker 1: the thing though, said Lana, because I don't wanna overwhelm people. Right? I know that there's a series of events leading up to this, but basically, where this takes us is that Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS and the Hillary camp campaign write this fake dossier. Then at the same time, the other so called source, Stefan Helper, the other spy is he's going to the FBI. They, of course, are going to John McCain and all the other people that they have on both sides of the aisle who are corrupt. They use John McCain to take the Steele dossier to the FBI, you know, supposedly because he's so concerned about what's in there, which is a complete lie as well. But also to and Speaker 0: at the same time, he's a confidential informer for the FBI. So they he feeds his stuff into the media, but at the same time, he's reporting the same stuff secretly. Speaker 1: Yes. And so it's this all this circular reporting that goes through the media, through the FBI, through the CIA, and of course Mhmm. And and of course, it's it's John Brennan, right, who makes sure that this Christopher Steele dossier is attached to a report on the, 2000 Speaker 0: Which is would be the next thing we'll get to. Right? But it's all it's what we're looking at is origins. Right? And then we're gonna get to the point where it's gonna end up within the intelligence community assessment indeed. The same story. Speaker 1: Yes. But I think that we have to because it's a lot for people to digest. So I think that the the point of this is we started with John Brennan. Right? We started with the fact that John Brennan is facing a grand jury, which is investigating the origins of the Russia collusion investigation. And what we're showing is that at the FBI, now you can see all these spies, they they come from the FBI, they come from the CIA, they come from you know, they use Cambridge as a cover, they all meet in London. Right? They all meet and they plan, they're plotting with the Hillary campaign, there's lawyers involved, there's all these different people involved, But essentially, what you have is They all Speaker 0: fear they're in the same conspiracy. So what happens Exactly. Is that back to John Brannon. So they organized this conference in Cambridge. Madeline Albright flies to this conference, and she's a Hillary pleuroxie. She's about to introduce her at the DNC convention couple of weeks before later. And Halper and dear love and Steele, they all come up with this plan, you know well, they formalized this plan. And the plan the the Hillary Soros plan is to tie Trump to Russian intelligence in order to distract from her email scandal and to start the FBI investigation. Then, like clockwork, what happens is that Magna Olbrad is the boss of Julie Smith, and Julie Smith that's why I keep going on about this document because it's gonna be the crucial document, hopefully, for the prosecutors because I know it was a crucial document for the Durham prosecutors prosecutors, which is the plan that they wrote down. So Madeline Albright is a friend of of of Alexander Downer and she is obviously Hillary proxy, but she her protege, Julie Smith, sends an email to the service people saying, don't worry about the election, we're gonna fix the election because what we're gonna do is first, we're gonna basically, we need to clear Hillary of the Seema scandal, no reasonable prosecutor. Remember July. Then Yeah. We're gonna start the investigation of the Trump campaign and we're gonna demonize them in the media. Right? John Brennan Speaker 1: And and this is part of the evidence that has been released now. That is public record that people can find on our website. Speaker 0: John Brennan takes this document about the Hillary Clinton plan because he receives a copy of it because source of, open society emails are intercepted. Brennan knows about the plan because he put it together, but he's now worried that they're gonna leak. Right? That this information is gonna leak, that all of this is not legitimate investigation, but it's a construct in order to help Hillary to win the election. And he meets with Barack Obama on the neck so same day that he receives the Speaker 1: Who's president at the time? Speaker 0: Who's president then. And we don't have the notes on it, but Darum is very specific that he meets with Obama secretly or well, meets openly, but we don't have the notes, on the day that he receives the plan. And the next day, he goes to speak to Comey about his meeting with Obama, and Comey orders the opening of the crossfire hurricane investigation of the Trump campaign advisers. Right? Then they have a second this is July 31, right, 2016. Then on August 1, and then on the same then the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, the basis for opening it, an umbrella investigation into the Trump campaign, is the information that Alexander Downer provided about George Potapacopoulos and Dirtland Hillary that is used to open investigation, and this is part of the Hillary Clinton plan. Right? And Obama approves it via Comey and Brennan. The next step is they open a general investigation, but not specific. They now have a second meeting. And now a bunch of people are present, and this is the document that, you know, we're gonna have hopefully within the screen or in the website. And so it's it takes place in the in the Oval Office on August 3, and director back then, director of national intelligence Ratcliffe declassified it, and now it's been used all the time, you know, to to to prove the existence of this plan. He we have Brennan's meeting notes. So present in the meeting are Barack Obama. This is 08/03/2016. Right? A few months before the election. Barack Obama, Susan Rice, Jim Comey, John Brennan, and then we have John Brennan's own handwritten notes. And John Brennan tells Obama that now this information about Hillary plan is known, right, because the emails have been intercepted. And the Hillary plan is to distract from her email server by tying Trump to Russian intelligence. Yes. Barack Obama will have his response because it's in the Britain's written note, and he asks for evidence of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Russian intelligence. Mhmm. Conor responds something. We don't know what is still redacted. Ask you why. I've been fighting to get it unredacted by the CAE. But there are four bullet points. But what we know, this is meeting on August 3, but then on August 10, they open on three They Trump speak Speaker 1: to Carter Page, George Papandopoulos, and Paul Manafort. Speaker 0: Then in August 16, they opened Speaker 2: They opened the Flynn. Speaker 0: And so, effectively, this is Obama ordering, to cut the long story short, and Brennan and Comey implementing the Hillary plan, the Hillary Soros plan, which is to create this contacts between Russian intelligence and the Trump advisers in order to fix the election. Effectively, Obama orders this. Right? Now what happens is but how do you open this investigation? Right? Well, they open investigation on Carter Page because he's been to Moscow and they say that he met with Sachin, da da da da. They open investigation Manafort because whatever, because it's Manafort. He worked in Ukraine. They Speaker 1: at they look at Farah and they say they they get him on all those Whatever. Deals with Speaker 0: They open on Papadopoulos because of Downer. Speaker 1: Because of the meeting with Alexander Downer where he claimed Papadopoulos said that the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton. Speaker 0: Right. Can't open on Why can't they open on Flynn? Because Flynn is holding a highest level security clearance called TSHCI, which just got renewed in April by the Obama administration in April 2016, come upon on him on him. Right? Because any contacts he had with Russia had to be legitimate, otherwise, they wouldn't have renewed the clearance. What do they do? They need something. They need some sort of insurance. They need to make sure they're gonna open on on the on Flynn. So we literally have text messages in Lisa Page and Peter Strogg, which Devin Nunes confirmed is about Halper, saying we need an insurance policy in case Trump wins. And the insurance policy is an open investigation on his closest, most important national security adviser, General Flynn, and the insurance policy is Halper, and Halper evidence against Flynn. So what happens is on August 10, so this is a week after Obama ordered to open specifically on these four people, but but the most important one is Flynn. Christopher Still writes that he received information from his sources in Moscow that general Flynn attended this RT event. Remember the one that he attended in December 15 on orders of DIA? Yes. They twisted to say that General Flynn was recruited by Russians and paid for Russians at this event in December 2015. And I then got contacted later on to say I was the person who arranged for him to go to this event in Moscow, and then I organized a payment for that. And still writing his dossier pretending that it's from Moscow sources, but in fact, they're working in parallel with Halper to say this is August 10, to say that that was Kremlin way of recruiting and compensating Flynn for his work. Because remember, they're creating the illusion of contacts between Trump campaign and Russia. This is August 10. August 11, Halper meets with FBI in as an informant. He meets with his boss at the not boss handler at the FBI. I think Halper is his boss in effect. And he recycles that stupid story saying that I had an affair with Jennifer and that he witnessed it. Speaker 1: Now Yeah. Speaker 2: He's And came in to be at Speaker 1: the dinner that he wasn't present at. Speaker 0: Right. He specifically says, and it's reflected in a document that I fought for years to get declassified, and then that's one of the documents that got raided. It says in the document that Halper witnessed that when Flynn was in his position with the DIA, he came to Cambridge University, he, attended this event, this dinner, and that I surprised everyone. The woman Sotland Aloha surprised everyone because she suddenly latched on General Flynn and jumped into a taxi with him, and then they drove to train station, and then they ended up in London and, you know, basically had an affair, and that Loha was suspicious. Within the you know, on top, it says counterintelligence investigation into Russia influence. Right? Or on top of the three zero two. And that's an official document. It's written down. Right? Oh, yes. Then even the corrupt FBI guys go, like, hang on a second. So they go back. But remember, it's kind of long winded, you now see why we had to go through that dinner, because Joe Fin was accompanied, and because they've already investigated back in 2014 and people who are clumpy at him said it's bullshit. Right? Never happens. Speaker 2: Yes. And with just so Speaker 1: that people understand, so essentially, what has happened here is that that you have this meeting with Obama. There's four points in the documents, the records of that meeting that are redacted. But but, you know, but shortly after that meeting, investigations are initiated into three of those people. And then there's still General Flynn. And so in order to motivate this investigation into General Flynn, they bring back this old allegation from the dinner that was, you know, years before that had been completely debunked in the documents because I first had eyewitnesses at the dentist said it didn't happen. And but they bring it back. They lie Speaker 0: about it. Swears that he was three zero two is the same document. Remember, Jennifer was going to jail for lying to their back, except he didn't lie. Based on this three zero two that they wrote down, so this is an official, almost like sworn testimony. So Halper Underoath effectively tells law enforcement he witnessed it. Now Of course. They go away and as corrupted there because this crossfire hurricane team is, like, really really corrupt, you know, led by a piece of stroke, Lisa Page, Pianka, all these guys. So Pianka is on top of this document. Speaker 1: And and Joel Krenkap is he's the FBI agent. That's who's who's working on the case. That's Speaker 0: who And he they they come back the next day and say, hey, but so they need to come back to help for the next day because they took it back, and they realized they can't really open this investigation because it's a bit of a problem, right, that that that that Jennifer was accompanied. And they asked Halper, hey, but wasn't he accompanied by, you know and Halper said, well, I don't Speaker 1: Because the head of the defense intelligence agency doesn't rock around on his own. Yeah. So he's always got somebody with him, whether it's his aide or Speaker 0: Had they lost the head of intelligence agency in a foreign country with a potential Russian spy, maybe they would have reported it back in 2014. And we're now in 2016. Speaker 1: Right? You think? Yeah. Speaker 0: Yeah. And so the facts Speaker 1: lacks credibility, basically. And the FBI agents come back and they ask Helper again, was there anybody with the general? Speaker 0: Yeah. And he's like, I don't remember. And it's everything, like, suddenly they don't remember. He doesn't remember the year it happened. Right? He doesn't remember anything, maybe maybe not, but I can reconfirm to you. He says, she jumped in the taxi and they went to the train station. Also, ridiculous on his face because how would they even know any of those things. Right? And then of course, the main thing. Speaker 1: The ridiculous part is that Helper wasn't at the dinner. Speaker 0: Helper wasn't at the dinner. Speaker 1: Anything. So all of it is a lie. Speaker 0: But in any event, they take that, and they take the steel report that Flynn went to Russia today in Moscow, and Russia recruited him there based on his Moscow sources on the August 10, and Halper report on the August 11. Again, they coordinate. Right? They're both sitting in Cambridge Speaker 2: Yes. And I I just have Speaker 1: to say this. It's very, very important for people to understand that John Brennan has access to all of the classified information. So he knows from the first report of Flynn supposedly having an affair with you that the eyewitnesses say it didn't happen. He knows that that's not true. So he knows when it resurfaces that it's still not true. He also knows that that, general Stuart at the DIA sent Flynn over there. He knows that they debriefed Flynn. He knows that they monitored Flynn every single minute that he was on the ground in Moscow. So they know perfectly well, same thing in Cambridge in England. They know that US intelligence monitored him every single minute he was on the ground. So they know the United States government, every single person involved in this, from the president to John Brennan to James Kappa, head of the DNI, And so Comey, they all know that every single part of this is a lie. And this, I think, is the critical ingredient for the audience is that we might not know. Maybe even the FBI agent, you know, he hasn't had time yet or or gotten access yet to the classified stuff or whatever. Maybe you could you could make an argument that they're not a 100% certain. But all of the key players in this, all of the puppet masters, they know a 100% that it is a setup. And this is what the Brennan trial is really all about. Because the origins of this investigation are a 100% false. And not only do they know what the classified information tells them, but they also know about all the contacts. They know helpers working for them. They know Christopher Steele's working for them. They know the Clinton campaign is paying for this opposition research. They know that these journalists, Matt Rosenberg, the journalist from the Washington Post who's or is he Washington Post or New York Times? I can't remember. Speaker 0: New York Times. Speaker 1: He called you. Right? Speaker 0: Yeah. And he was the one who told me that he received from his information, from his sources, and he later admitted to me with Halper and Steele that I had an affair with Jennifer Flynn, and that I was the person who invited General Flynn to Moscow, and that and I I've showed you those emails. We can post them. And that I also organized the payment by Russians to General Flynn. And that information is in the Steele dossier about the payment and the Russia Today thing. It's manufactured by Steele, and information about the inform about the affairs manufactured by Halper. And then they give journalists two stories and they kinda cross collaborate each other, but it's all a lie corroborated. And then that's Speaker 1: You told Matt Rosenberg that none of this was true and he didn't care, did he? Well, he and this is Speaker 0: the thing, they also Matt Rosenberg, David Ignatius of the Washington Post, all these people, they all came to Cambridge or called people up. Everyone told them in Cambridge, it was not true. They've investigated this. Remember, it would have been a big scandal in Cambridge. But it doesn't matter because Rosenberg's defense was Brand Ordenmann. Right? I also heard from that Brand so Brand and the partner ordered Rosenberg. This is New York Times. Then I heard from the woman from MSNBC who works with John Brennan, that they send Halper so remember Halper is a CA officer operative Yeah. That they send into the FBI. So what they do is they create all this stuff in London. In 2015, they create all this story, and then they bring it in because CIA cannot investigate, or jail or officials surveil American citizens, let alone political campaign. But law enforcement can. And Brennan in his testimony openly admitted that he was it was on his he received information from his allies in Britain, I. E. Still in Halper, that seeing a person on the Trump campaign who they immediately this is his congressional testimony I'm quoting. Seeing a person on the Trump campaign who his friend at Washington Post immediately named it Flynn, was compromised by Russia. And that it was a false flag operation because Russians I'm quoting his congressional testimony, Russians are very good at it and general Flynn might have not and he stepped Speaker 2: on Speaker 0: this path of treason, treasonous path, wittingly on unwittingly. Because Russians are so good at it, he might have not realized that effectively that I was not a Cambridge academic, but I was a Russian spy. And then, he's very aware of how Russians run these operations. And then as as it progressed, he became compromised and then he became vulnerable to blackmail because the story they constructed is that I had an affair, gave Flynn money, and then and then and then the Russians blackmailed Flynn into working with is is the story. Right? It's all fake. And and then what happens is in the common notes that we were talking about, it says the word Mitch on it. And on this three zero two, so this is the official FBI record of this lie. Speaker 1: Yes. There he is to get Speaker 0: it payment for this lie. We also this is the documents that these are the crossfire hurricane documents that president Trump declassified that we've been talking about. President Trump declassified that Mitch, Stefan Halper with a codenamed Mitch, has received his payments for the FBI on the day that he told this lie. So they're paying him to lie. Speaker 1: And it's over that document shows a payment of over $500,000. I mean, they paid this guy over half $1,000,000 to lie to set up the president. Speaker 0: And then But then he was also paid why is his code name Mitch? Because Cormy, who gave the code name, knows he works for the CAE. Because Mitch alludes to a character called fictional character called Mitch Rapp, who is a CIA operative, but he operates outside congressional, oversight. And he gets paid, you know, from a from a slash fund, say, slash fund. And we know because of the evidence of a man called Adam Lovinger, who went to Santa Grassley, who worked at the Pentagon office of the net assessment, that Halper also received $1,000,000 from the Office of Net Assessment, which is supposed to supposedly for research, like security related research. Yes. But in fact, he received those payments on the dates as he lied about General Finn, as he lied about Carthage. Right? Speaker 2: Yeah. Which is why Speaker 1: that which is why president Trump on his second term shut down the office of net assessments at the Pentagon because they knew that it was being used as a front for off the book dark money payments for CIA operations that are treasonous. Speaker 0: So what was president Trump exposing is the CIA operations created by Brennan, then they bring it so they offshore it, right, avoid oversight and they say Brennan, then they onshore it Speaker 2: back into the opinions. Speaker 0: Through the Speaker 2: FBI. Opinions. Speaker 0: Yeah. Right. Then the next step in the conspiracy, right, that, okay, it doesn't work, because she's such a terrible candidate, so she loses election, Hillary Clinton. But Obama doesn't and Brennan, they they they, like, we don't care. Right? Like, we don't care about that. So what they then do and so now president Trump formally appoints after the election, General Finn as the national security adviser. And then in December, they published a 16. So this is two months after the election. They published a series of articles, specifically one where HALP is even on the record. And again, it's a standard CIA technique where you publish something abroad in article. You're an operative publisher, and then you bring it into The US. So they published an article in December 2016, and this is when I'm six months pregnant. In the Financial Times, I get a call on Saturday. And Financial Times is a serious financial publication. And on Saturday, it's usually about culture and cinema. And on the front page, there's a very strong looking Richard Dieloff. And the article says that him and Stefan Halper left the Cambridge seminar that I was telling you about because of its penetration of Russian by Russian intelligence, and I collapsed laughing. Right? Like, he what? I don't know anything about That's the first time I find out. Speaker 2: And just Speaker 1: to remind people, this is Richard Dielov, who's the former head of MI six, Britain's, intelligence, CIA basically, and who is retired and now head of Pembroke House at Cambridge. And and of course, you said dear love and who? Speaker 0: Stephen Halper on the record. Stephen They they they the Cambridge has been and that the parliament is gonna invention Speaker 1: been penetrated by Russian spies, would be used, Faitlan. Speaker 0: And on the front, the first line, it says the seminar that's been attended by general Michael Flynn. Oh, Of course. The article is December 16. He's just been appointed national security adviser. Remember, this is when Obama says to Trump don't hire Flynn, but doesn't say why, but they make it look like he told them he's done the investigation. Speaker 1: Don't don't go near any anywhere near general Flynn. He's dangerous. Speaker 0: Yeah. But but but they when they leak this information, they say he told Trump he's under investigation for Russia contacts, he didn't tell him that. Right? No. So they right? And then what happens is It this says it says in the first line that general Flynn attended the seminar recently well, it's it's December 2016, and he attended in February 2014. That's not recently. They said at the same time as Trubyakov, the head of SVR attended the seminar. But he attended the seminar in '15. Right? One year difference. But they put it all together. Speaker 1: Of course. They just they because they know that nobody knows when any of these people And would I'm huge. Like any Speaker 0: day I'm literally at my doctor's appointment. I'm due any any day now to give birth to my first child. And I receive at that point, I think it's all a joke. Right? I think it's I it's hysterical because it's just so not true. I think they've all gone nuts. Right? At which point, I receive a call from the chief reporter of The Times of London, our newspaper of record, chief reporter, Knows my email address. How these people know this stuff. Right? I mean, love obviously gave it to me. That's what people told me is dear love's work. He says, I'm the spy. I'm this, like, nine month pregnant lady trying to finish my PhD. I'm the spy who somehow is involved in Russia. Get what? I laugh it off. My husband takes it seriously. We still don't understand what's going on, but we he said, call your lawyer. I'm there, Gav. He said, call your lawyer. Luckily, have very serious libel laws in England. So my lawyer calls them up and says, yeah, you go ahead publish. She's gonna be very rich. Right? Because, you know, this is ridiculous story. They don't publish that story. So they publish a story about Cambridge penetration, but they don't put my name in it. The next thing that happens, and Chris Andrew pretends he doesn't know anything about it, and he suddenly becomes very ill, my my professor. Professor. Yes. I ran to him to say it, I'm Godwiss. And he's like, right? I'm very ill, like, pretends he doesn't know anything about. We now know that the day they published this article, December 15 Mhmm. 2016, is the day that they changed the ICA conclusion. So what was happening on the other side of Atlantic, it's all coordination. Remember? And then Speaker 1: by ICA, you mean the intelligence community assessment Speaker 0: So the way it works. Yeah. Election. Works is, theoretically, if it wasn't a conspiracy, but it was a general normal job of the security services, after every election, the intelligence community needs needs to make a finding. Were there any irregularities? Were there any problems election? With the election. Mhmm. And Talcie Gabbard released information saying that on, I think it was December, whatever that is, they had an intelligence community assessment before that, and and Nunish confirms it because he was briefed as the member of, you Speaker 1: know, just wanna make sure people understand. You're talking about a few months ago, Tulsi Gabbard confirmed that when they looked back at the original documents, what they saw was that in 2016, the original assessment from the intelligence community said that there had been no significant interference by Russia in the election. Speaker 0: Right. And secondly, of course, that there was no because that that there wasn't that that that Russia did not help Trump, that so there was nothing about contacts between Trump campaign and Russia. Speaker 1: That's right. Speaker 0: There was no suggestion between that that Russia was trying to help Trump. Nothing like that. It was just a normal election. And congress gets briefed on that because Nunes was in the briefing as a senior member with access to classified intelligence. Speaker 1: Devin Nunes at the time was was in the house. Speaker 0: Yes. Right. So was just a normal election. But then what she finds is that Mhmm. Then there's a meeting with Obama in December. And after that meeting with Obama, Clapper and Brennan order, and we have the emails. Right? Because Salsa Gabbard released them, the the Karen DNI, saying change the assessment to make a finding that Russia interfered an election to help Trump. It's an order Is that's that Speaker 1: the issue right there for John Brennan. Speaker 0: Right. So what then happens is they place this article, as I said, in the Feet, right, saying that Russia interfered in London. And at the same time, in the assessment, what like, what basis do they say that? Right? Like, let's take this seriously for one second. It's all fabricated. But on what basis can they say? Like, Obama orders them to do it, but but it didn't happen. Well, they only have one thing, which is me. Because there's no Russians in Russia collusion. Right? That's what Nunish gives Russian. You You talk I'm not like, I was born there, but I'm a British citizen and lived there all my grown life. So if they don't have it, they have to create it. So what they do is they write like this big document or the the the Russia Interfered. Right? Like, looks, you know, we could we can put put it online, like, the big headlines. Russia Interfered puts in person new order. And then they, attached to it an appendix that they don't release to people. Right? So it's classified. But the appendix is actually based on Halpern Steel. And we know that because it later got declassified. And within it, it says that they have an FBI source, which is actually a combined source, which is Halper and Steel, who told them that his sources in Moscow told him that Russia cultivated a senior Trump campaign adviser, I. E, General Flynn, by inviting him to this meeting in in Moscow and still in addition, obviously, John McCain at the very same day, and we have that because it also was declassified by Granol. John McCain goes to Cormier and says that I have information from Steele that Pardon me. Flynn had an affair with a Russian woman in The UK. Speaker 1: Yes. Let's not forget what a traitor John McCain really was. Speaker 0: And so they combined that that's the assessment. Because they need for the assessment, they need to establish two things in people's minds. Right? One is Russia interference in general. Right? They have to establish that in people's minds. So general but the second thing is specifically to help Trump. Yes. To tell American people that you did not elect him. You think you elected him, but you didn't. Actually, he was a foreign enemy, which is why they make this, you know, they expel Russian diplomats at the same time. Right? They say a foreign enemy we're effectively in war with. Right? That's why they do this whole thing. Right? Interfered in your elections. Right? You did not elect him. And then they but but Trump can turn around and say, okay. Maybe Russia did. Maybe Russia didn't. I don't know. Right? Like, I'm not a hell of a saint. However, I had nothing to do with this. Right? They say, no. No. No. They need to then create this contact between Trump campaign and Russia. But there wasn't any contact between Trump campaign and Russian intelligence, so they need to create it. Right? And so they recycle the same story, which you're probably sick of hearing about about me and Flynn and Moscow Speaker 1: and And don't forget, Svetlana, at the same time, they wrote in the Steele dossier that he, you know, that that Russian intelligence had all this dirt on Trump. That he, had gone to the hotel room where Obama had stayed and Right. Speaker 2: Hide Right. Speaker 1: And had them pee on him. So there were there were other things that they were, you Speaker 0: know, using to, you get real. The crucial thing, which which is where actually Mike Pompeo is up to his neck and this, etcetera, etcetera, they also said that they had a top secret source who is a senior person within Russian intelligence. And that's how the Stil Dossi starts. Right? So people heard about the prostitutes. But the crucial part of it is that Stil has a source in Moscow who is a senior person within Russian intelligence who told him that Putin personally told him to install Trump. Right? And what we have we have testimony of Bruce Orr, and Bruce Orr says that he asks Who who who that is, and he said he's the head of Russian Foreign Intelligence, SVR. And we also have a notes of the woman called Kavalev, who is at the state department, and she asked him that as well. So who is your source for this? He says, my source is Chernikov. But Chernikov is a friend of Halper. Right? So he's a former Russian head of Russian intelligence who visited Cambridge, but not in '16, but in '15. Halper then twists it like he does with Flynn, like he does with me, like he does with Carter He changes the date, and as long as he has a record of the meeting, he can attach any information. And, yes, he does know the head of Russian intelligence, and, yes, he visited Cambridge, And all he has to do is say, he told me Putin ordered me to do it, swap the date, forge it, and that becomes the key finding of the intelligence community assessment that Putin ordered Speaker 1: Which they all knew was a lie. Speaker 0: Right. And that they had the source. And then what happens is general Rogers says, okay. But where is this stuff? Because he's in charge of Sighinz. Right? And Sighinz intercepts. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 0: So how could reward the head of Russian intelligence? There would be like a phone call. There would be an email. Right? And they don't have Wait. Speaker 1: Svetlana, just wait. Just so people remember because they can get lost in all of these names. General Rogers at the time is head of the National Security Agency. So if there was any form of evidence, if there was any kind of, of, conversation or anything about this, the NSA is the crown jewel of intelligence collection in the world. And they would have it. So General Rogers knows that this stinks, and so he questions it and says, but wait a minute. Right? Speaker 0: Because he'd have a piece of paper. It would be a phone call, an intercepted text message. They say, no. No. No. No. Putin doesn't write anything down. We have a human source. Have the top spy, which is Halper. Mhmm. Right? How we know that? Because they put it in New York Times, Rosenberg put it, that we have the top say spy who knows person that has a Russian intelligence, and that's what he told me. So the reason why I don't have an intercept is because we have a source. Right? But they don't tell him who the source is because they know if you didn't tell him how part the whole thing. They say, oh, we have this guy. We have this guy. They then then Roj just keeps pressing on, keep pressing on, and they give him another name of a guy called Smolenkov who is like a junior junior operative in Cambridge who indeed sorry. In the so Guy called Smolenkov who's a junior operative in the Kremlin. Not a CIA. He works for the CIA, but he's not an intelligence guy. He's an admin guy in charge of Putin's travel arrangements. He works for the CIA. And what they do is they tell Rogers, he's the guy. And Rogers looks him up. This is all very well documented and says, but this guy is like a junior travel guy. Right? I'm not gonna sign Speaker 1: this off. There's no way that Putin would be saying this to him. Speaker 0: Right. And and and they also switch they start off by saying it's the head of intelligence that that Then they Speaker 1: say it. Speaker 0: But now it's like some guy. Right? And then and then, Roger said, well, I'm not signing that. And then they said, but you have to, Clapper and Brandon and Comey say you you have to you have to sign off. Be a team player. Right? We have no choice to sign it off. And he signs off. But he gives it medium, so say the CIA Medium confidence. Speaker 1: They have different ratings. Instead of it being a high level of confidence, he gives it a medium rating. Yes. Speaker 0: And then when the whole story about Halper explodes, and I keep saying, like, Halper is the guy who lied that he had this meeting with with with Russian intelligence, etcetera. Yes. What they do, true story, and this is under Pompeo, is they extradite this guy, guy Smolenkov, who works for the CAA because he's a junior guy. They do Baden Switch, and they buy him a house in Washington under his own name for millions. Right? And then they send Ken Delanyan, who's the CAO operative within MSNBC, to visit his house to say, hey, this is the spy who gave us all this information. And Pompeo does the, Gazus press conference saying, oh my god. Oh my god. We have this really important spy. We exfiltrated him. But they give the address to the media. Right? And then they hide the guy, and then they say he was this important guy. Because they're covering up again, this goes on and on and say, it's in the hovering up for Hulk or lying. Speaker 1: Yes. Because you know what happens, Fitlana? When you tell a lie, it has no legs, and you have to keep telling another lie and another lie and another Speaker 0: lie. The cover up. Speaker 1: Because they start collapsing. Yes. It's the cover up. Speaker 0: But then what happens is in order to cover up all these lies, they publish jointly. So they do a series of newspaper articles first in 2017 to stand all of this up. So what happens is they publish the so they rush this intelligence community assessment, which is based remember, just just to go back to this, which is which this is what's currently under investigation. One of the things that's currently under investigation in Florida is they make a finding Russia interfered, make us which we know that wasn't the finding. The second finding they made is Putin has ordered it. How they know Putin's ordered? Because they have a secret, say, source, who is close to Putin, who in fact is Stefan Halper lying about some husband guy who wasn't even anywhere near this thing. Right? And then that there were contacts between senior Trump campaign people and Russian intelligence, I. E. Me. And this is where the fake story by Halper comes in. Right? So these are the elements because they need to have two elements. One is Russia interference. Two, that they were that that Trump campaign actively asked for this help. Right? But all of this is BS. Then the next thing that happens is that Klaper meets with CNN and gives them this classified documents, licks it, based on the Sindhozian Halperlice. And they make this war story. This is remember about January 5 January 6, right, to do this. And this is at the same time as remember, Obama has a meeting in the White House, they're gonna get rid of general Flynn, and they're gonna use this story to get rid of him. So they need to back up this finding, and therefore, they need to he orders to put the stories into the media. Right? In order to make it look like Trump had Trump's senior campaign adviser, general Flynn, who is now a national security adviser, is is in fact a traitor. So Obama has a meeting in the Oval Office, remember, with Susan Rice and whatever, on on January 5. And then That's Speaker 1: what happens and for the speech. Speaker 0: And then what happens is I suddenly get contacted by all these journalists, and the main one is Carol Lee, who is a personal friend of Obama. She was at the Wall Street Journal. She's now at MSNBC. But she's also been ordered by Ben Rhodes, as I've been told, to do this. Right? Speaker 1: Ben Rhodes. Speaker 0: You bet. Right. Because the only person because I suddenly remember I don't understand any of that, but I suddenly receive four within twenty four hours, I received four emails from four unconnected journalists, David Ignatius, people from The Wall Street Journal headed by Carol Lee, Matthew Rosenberg from New York Times, and The Guardian who is connected with Christopher Steele, right, but I don't know that yet. And they all asked me about my relationship with a man that I met once three years ago at the dinner. So they all know what's in the FBI files because Comey and Halper and Steele and Schiff leaked it to them, this information. So the information is a lie but it's highly classified. And we have a memo. Right? And the memo is dated January 4 where the agent in the case after the election decided to close down the casino investigation, closed down Raiser because he said that they they checked all the databases. There's nothing on me and Flynn. No derogatory information. Also, Flynn holds this high level security clearance, which never been revoked. They never removed the clearance. They never arrested him having an affair with Russian spy. They never removed his clearance. Right? It's all smoke. And they've gotta shut down this investigation, the agents, because they know that Flynn's gonna come in and find out this, and hell's gonna break loose. Right? Speaker 1: And they know it's not true. Speaker 0: And they know the truth. So they write down a piece of paper. We have the memo, which was released in the Flynn case, that the information in the three or two is inaccurate and implausible because Flynn was always accompanied. And they and they went up Speaker 2: the memo prevailed. Speaker 0: And say close the film case, January 4. Ten minutes later and president Trump I tweeted this. President Trump retweeted this back in, 2020. Ten minutes late after they draft this memo, Peter struck text the agents and said, don't close Razor. You don't close it. 7th Floor involved. Who's 7th Floor? Speaker 1: Peter Strokes And the cape. And the head of counterintelligence for the FBI. That's very important for people to remember. Deputy head of counterintelligence for the FBI says, do not close the operation. 7th Floor involved. Speaker 0: They they seal so don't close the Flynn case, which is based on the Halp Alai by the 7th Floor. And whose 7th Floor? It's Connor. Connor Vault. 7th Floor is the 7th Floor of the Hoover building, which is the headquarters of the FBI. And the only four so the only two people who sit there will pass probably some assistance is the leadership. It says Andy McCabe and Jim Comey. Why does Jim Comey want not to close the Razy case? Because he's gonna go see Obama the next day, this famous Oval Office meeting, and he needs to have this investigation open because this document was released as part of the case where the DOJ was gonna drop the case against general Flynn. Because the Logan Act stuff they came up with later about his conversation with Russian investors. Speaker 1: That was nonsense. They could not Speaker 0: they could not open based on that, so they had to hold keep open the original investigation about me and Flynn. Right, because it was already open, they couldn't close it because the other stuff wouldn't stick. They had to keep it open. Why? Because they need to back up the intelligence community assessment, which they were leaking at that point to the media to make American people. But more importantly, remember that senate was was going to ratify the president. Right? But most importantly, Svetlana, if they if they tell the public there is Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation, that it makes somebody look like they're guilty. If they tell the public, we investigated this. We found nothing. He's been cleared. The whole thing collapses. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 2: So they have to keep going, look. Speaker 0: We have to wrap it up. It's bigger than that. It's bigger than that because the target becomes republican. So remember, initially, the target were American people who were either gonna come to the election both or not. Now the target is republican congress. Right? And how do we know that it's written down in the Fusion GPS book? John McCain meets with Christopher Steele because now, well, they can't now install Hillary Clinton. Not possible. Right? Republican candidate won. They understand that. So they just want to replace Donald Trump with someone else, preferably Mike Pence or somebody like that. Right? They they arrested another Republican. Speaker 2: Not against him. Speaker 0: So they have to initially while they rush this assessment, they need to stop whatever they accuse the other side of doing, which is stop the electoral college from approving the president. What's what's the formal word? Ratifying the presidency? Speaker 1: Yes. From ratifying the results of the election. Speaker 0: Why they rushed it so much over Christmas period in one week or two weeks. Usually, take months. General Flynn says these assessments take months. They've done in a week over Christmas. Government bureaucracy did that because Obama needed it. And the Fusion GPS founder writes in his book, that's because Christopher Steele, John McCain, and all these guys agreed that they're gonna try Republicans are gonna try and stop the anti Trump Republicans are gonna try and persuade other Republicans to stop president Trump from being ratified. That's why it's such a rush. Speaker 1: Yes. And they failed. Speaker 0: Then they failed. But but they don't stop. The next thing they start working on is they need to bring about Mueller. Right? So they are working on bringing about special counsel in order and in order to impeach. This is where it becomes like Watergate. What they mean by that is that Nixon Nixon was never actually impeached, but he was threatened with impeachment, and then he was replaced with Ford who was unelected. So they were going to impeach president Trump or threaten him with impeachment so that he resigns voluntarily for the good of the country Yes. Speaker 2: And replace them with Pence. Right? Speaker 0: Yeah. And so they start working. They don't stop. The conspiracy continues. It's all the same recycled story. Trump contact with Russia through general Flynn's, through Carter Page, and this Russian intelligence guy who was installing Trump, etcetera, etcetera, that same story. They use it to bring about special counsel Mueller. And for that, they need all these newspaper articles because they don't have any evidence, so they keep the investigation open. And this is where my life erupts at that point. Speaker 1: And this is what you call trial by media because they don't have real evidence that will stand up in a courtroom. So they try him in the media with inference and leaks and false information. Speaker 0: So what they do is my own professor of twenty years writes an article in the Times of London saying that at the dinner so they fired General Flynn, you know the story about lying to the bear where he didn't lie. And then the next day, and David Ignatius so Jim Clapper calls up David Ignatius and says, take out the kill shot on General Flynn. David Ignatius is the Washington Post. So the Washington Post published their first article saying that General Flynn had an appropriate conversation with Russian ambassador. He gets fired. Then there's a text message between David Kramer who works for John McCain and Christopher Steele saying that the first story went well. The text message in court proceedings, we have it. Now it's time to unleash the second Finn story about me. David Ignatius flies to England, meets with my professor. My professor publishes an article saying that present he was present at the twenty fourteen dinner where general Flynn who's now fired, showed all his attentions, to the student of mine. So who showed an erotic photograph? I showed him a styling document. I didn't show him. Anyway, and that this woman and and then general Flynn invited my student, me, to Moscow with him. Never happened. As a simultaneous translator, I'm not even a translator. Right? Then I'm sent. These shows like bad judgment and still set. Then Carol Lee, who's working for Obama, David Rosenberg sorry, David Rosenberg. Matthew Rosenberg who works for Brennan, Adam Goldman who works for Comey, Guardian who works for Christopher Steele, they all, on the same day, contact me, and they all have the same thing about my affair with general Flynn. Right? Because it's part of this plan to so there were two parts of this Flynn story. Right? One, he gets fired over Kislak in the proper contact with Russian ambassador, and two, they need to give the backstory about this. Why? Because they need to stand up this intelligence community assessment that said that Russia interference told Trump. So they bring and him and and and and and Devin Nunish, was the head of the intel committee at the time for the congress, he says he there's a very famous video where Nunish is speaking to Mueller. Right? Like, is giving evidence. And he says, Dan Nunish says that the first Trump associate who was being investigated by Mueller was general Finn. And this investigation was based on the article placed by Christopher Andrew and Richard Dyilov. Right? What happens is this affair story manufactured by Halper and Dyilov and and Andrew was the basis for the Mueller, and Mueller does this I can't comment. But that was the basis for the Mueller investigation, and they opened the Mueller investigation in order to impeach Trump. You guys okay. Speaker 1: But Svetlana, we've gotta get back to the Brennan case because that's where we began and we haven't, you know, we we have to wrap this up. So I just wanna end with this. Right now, what has happened is that is that John Brennan and his attorneys have acknowledged this, and they have indicated how seriously they're taking it because his Brennan's attorneys have, they're now trying to do everything they can to get out of this. And what you really have is a grand jury proceeding, which is secret, so we don't know exactly what's going on behind closed doors. But we do know because we've had confirmation from Andy McCabe that he has been subpoenaed. There's been Speaker 0: confirmation interrupt. There are specific dates. So the so the government can't comment because it's secret, but the coup plotters leaked to the New York Times, the Washington Post, etcetera, that the subpoenas that that they they need to appear in front of their jury heard in also have to submit documents to the grand jury. And the documents start with July 2016, where remember Hillary plan document? They go through December 2016, which is the intelligence community assessment, and into February 2017, which is the firing of general Flynn. So all the elements we've just been through, we were explaining them because these are the documents that show you the conspiracy, and these are the documents that the defendants have to submit. Speaker 1: That right. So these documents have been subpoenaed from every single, well, from reportedly from '20 Yeah. '20 to '30. Yes. We don't know exactly because the proceedings are secret, but it has been reported that up to 30 people have been subpoenaed in this case. And so the first person is the the case centers around is John Brennan and his role in the origins of the Russia investigation because they know. They know that it's fake. They know that it was a setup. They know that it was treason. And, and so they've got John Brennan on the ropes here, and most of the country is not paying a whole lot of attention to this. But John Brennan's attorneys, they have made a public statement that they're accusing the Department of Justice of of judge shopping and trying to get this into, a friendly before a friendly judge. And the judge that they're talking about is Aileen Connolly because she's the one who threw the the documents, the Trump documents, the Mar A Speaker 0: Lago case. And sorry to interrupt. The relevance of that from our perspective is these are the documents we mentioned very quickly, but everything we've just been discussing has been documented. And president Trump declassified all of this, you know, the main thing is the CIA involvement. Who is the CIA involvement? It's Halper who works for Brennan, roughly. Right? Right. So Halper works for Brennan. Brennan pays him through the FBI, through the CIA, etcetera. And they operate out of Britain. President Trump declassified all of this. They reclassified it retroactively, then they raided his house, took the documents away. That gives it's a really bad thing that happened, but that gives the jurisdiction in Florida because parts of the conspiracy is covering up the conspiracy. Right? Right. Speaker 2: And and people had Speaker 1: said why is this case taking place in Florida? This shouldn't be in Florida. This is this is the Trump administration trying Speaker 0: evidence of the irasciaga crimes, and the judge who's on the case was the judge who threw this case out because she saw the documents and she realized they were not classified. Speaker 1: Just to be clear, the reason this case is taking place in Florida is because Mar A Lago, Florida is was the scene of the the raid where they tried to seize these documents as part of the ongoing cover up. Speaker 0: And that's how they furthered the conspiracy forward because remember Alan Collar, who's the guy in London originally working with Gina Haskell, working Speaker 2: with the the lead. Yeah. Speaker 0: He is the one who organized the raid, and he just now admitted it. It's been issued in a new book. But, also, he worked together with Lisa Monaca. Lisa Monaca is an Obama person who became deputy attorney general under Biden, and she was the one whom Alan Koller briefed on the raid. And also Everell Haines, who used to be Brennan's deputy, and she became director of national intelligence. So this is the group that reclassified these documents and then seized them, and they reclassified them for national security reasons. And they say in all these books now they're writing about this, that they were concerned that these documents will expose operations and spies. Who are the operations and spies? Halper. Right? That's it. This is very simple. Speaker 2: How they Speaker 1: and this is this is just how they cover up the fact that this was a CIA operation, cover up CIA involvement and and their own personal involvement. Speaker 0: And Brandon is upset because this judge so Yeah. After they seized these records and they secretly reclassified them. So president Trump didn't even know they did it. We only know about it because I looked it up on the FBI Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 0: Database. Well, Darren people told me that my documents are gone, and that's why they couldn't prosecute, people involved in this because they could not, take the court cases which are classified. Right? So I knew about that. And then I found proof of it because I went on the FBI's own website, and the same document side by side that I have declassified, it's completely blanked out for national security reason, and the date is May 2022, which is three months before the raid, and the they they classified it until 2091. Luckily, president Trump now came back to power and reclassified it again, so we now have the documents. But the point is Speaker 1: Declassified it all over again. Speaker 0: Yes. So declassified. But the point is is that why this this raid is part of it is because they were trying to hide the evidence of their own crimes and twisted into as if president Trump, held classified documents, which he didn't, and gave it to me who's a Russian spy, who I'm not, and he didn't give it to me. So then what happens is this judge knows all of this. Right? She knows what's in the documents, which is they say involvement, so that's why because she saw it originally when she was saving president Trump from this bullshit case. So Brennan doesn't want this judge because she knows the Speaker 1: whole judge because she knows too much. That's why. And so they're accusing they're trying to accuse the DOJ of judge shopping and other things. We don't know if there's been a ruling on that. Nothing has been made public yet. So it seems reasonable that there hasn't been a ruling. Certainly, there'd been a ruling in the favor of John Brennan and all the others like Annie McCabe and Comey and Clapper, who have received subpoenas, then you would think that we would know about it. But we never Speaker 0: we also know, but they're very scared because John Brennan just traveled to London and Yeah. On the day on the five days before subpoenas were due, they were due at Thanksgiving, all these documents. He appeared in London in London parliament, the upper chambers of our London parliament, with David Allmand, who is a friend of my professor Christopher Christopher Andrew Yeah. And Richard Zieloff. So he obviously went to London, Brennan, you know, presumably to discuss his cover up. Then we also know that Andy McCabe just had a podcast with Richard Dilulov. So he talked about being silly. We can sort of, they obviously are worried. I don't know whether going to have accountability or not, but from their behavior, it appears that they're concerned about it because they're communicating with each other covertly. Right? Like Brennan flew to London. Why would he need to fly to London? Speaker 1: Which is typical of the tactics that they use. Right? That's what that Cambridge group was using. Okay. So we have to we have to close. Have to search by Speaker 0: Jim final point, Jim Clapper, though, very quiet. So he's another one who confirmed that he's been subpoenaed because he's in front and center of all of this as well. But he's a lawyer. The Speaker 2: top word Speaker 1: about that. It's another one who's involved. Speaker 0: Right. And then Obama, of course, also just recently visited London in September, October time when all this case kicked off. Basically, what we know Speaker 1: their foreign allies and co conspirators. Speaker 0: Yep. And so what would be interesting is that Obama ordered it. So Brennan, if this case goes forward, presumably, Brennan's gonna try and blame Obama. And Obama's going to try and blame Brennan, but he has immunity. So this is interesting. Right? How it's gonna work. If if this case proceeds, right, what we're gonna watch out for, what's gonna be very interesting, is Brennan's going if, you know, he can't kick this case out of court, and I don't think he can because it's a good jurisdiction and because he's guilty, then he will say, was ordered to do that by Obama, which is why he took his nose, remember. Right? So in case they're all lawyers. Right? Obama then, he has immunity, but what that means is that he can't lie because he can't be prosecuted as the president. Right? Yeah. He can't Right. But if he does lie because he's no longer the president then, then he opens up himself for perjury. He might as well tell the truth. Right? And I presume that that's why they're flying him in and out of London three times he've been in September, October period, which is when this Speaker 1: case what it is. All covering their butts. So the cover up continues. The conspiracy continues. And, curiously, this this case that is about the one thing millions of Americans want more than anything else is accountability for the crimes that have been committed against this country, for the American traitors who have conspired with their foreign allies. The one thing they want is for these people to be held accountable, and it just it just may be that in this Florida case, that is where we are headed to real accountability. It's only John Brennan at this time. The others have been subpoenaed. We have we don't know yet if there's been any kind of finding for the grand jury. It doesn't appear so because nothing's been made public. But this is why I say that this is one to watch. I will be talking to you again, Svetlana. You, as I said in the beginning, you have encyclopedic knowledge of these cases, and, and I know it's hard for people. All of the documents that you referenced, the podcast with Annie McCabe and so on, these things are available on the website so that people can go back to this. You can study it. It's really worth taking the time because what is this about? It's about it's about the American people knowing and understanding the truth. So that these people who have abused and misused their power and their positions and have lied about it repeatedly, do they get held to the same standard as everybody else and they Speaker 0: don't You get have this voice. Right? You have you could be rich, you can be poor, you can be, high up or not, but all of you have the rights to choose the president you want to choose. Your constitution. That's your god given rights. Now Speaker 2: they they Speaker 0: they said, no. We're not we're not gonna let you do it. These people, right, all conspired and say, no. You don't know what you're doing. Right? We we're not going to lie. So Andrew McCabe, the British, all these globalists, sores. Why should sores dictate? Right? You cannot so so you cannot so all that we've been through, like, the weeds of all of this because what we've been trying to do is educate the people. And the reason why we're doing that is that the people remain vigilant, right, and watch over their representatives. Right? So there's congress, there's DOJ, all these people don't fall asleep in the wheel. Right? So we need people to be educated, vocal, and keep an eye on that. Right? Not just not just hope that things are happening, but demand accountability. But the reason why we need to demand accountability is because you can't let them dictate. You know, okay. Luckily, the president Trump came back to power. Right? But he was almost assassinated. He was nearly jailed. And they did obviously manage to install Joe Biden Yes. Speaker 2: And they Speaker 1: might they're still trying to kill him. And they might, you know, do it. Speaker 0: And I said back in 2019 or 2018, 2019 that if we don't get accountability for this Russia gate, they're gonna do it again. And they did it with Biden. Right? So what I'm trying to say now is don't let them I've done my work now. Right? I'm not American. I've been unfortunately brought into this against my will. But as a severe as a as a well, I am an ally in the sense that, you know, as a as a braid, we're an ally with with The United States. But also as a human, I want for our children the world where they can grow up, which is not as corrupt. Right? But I've done everything I can possibly do to lay out all the evidence. But now it's the American people who are listening to this. What I want you to do Yeah. Is not let up. Right? Do not let up. Speaker 1: Yeah. Not let up. Yeah. Do not surrender. Do not let up. Svetlana, we're gonna come back to you. You know, we're gonna talk to you about this again. We're gonna stay on top of this. We have to go. Thank you so so much for joining us. You are a force of nature, a brilliant woman, and you have so much moral courage. I have enormous respect for you. Speaker 0: Thank you. Speaker 1: And I am sincerely grateful for everything that you've done. Speaker 0: To Lara because you're one of the few people because, you know, now it's a new administration, people think, okay, things are different. But the bureaucracy is the same. I know president Trump wants wants accountability for you guys. And it's very important, Lara, the work you're doing every day is relentless. You know, you don't get much sleep. You but you have to stay on it because we have to hold these people accountable. Be vigilant. Speaker 1: Don't worry. I'm not going anywhere. Nobody likes but quitters, Vetlana, and you and I are not quitters. You. Thank you Speaker 0: so much, and thank you for your audience to to to for all your support as well. Speaker 1: Yes. Thank you very much to our audience. We can do absolutely nothing without you. You are everything to us. So please like, share, subscribe, get this out to as many people as you can. If you wanna support independent journalism, support our work, you can go to laralogan.com and find the join button. And as always, it is my great pleasure to say to you all, thank you so much for being bold enough to go rogue with Lara Logan.
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@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

WILL WE FINALLY SEE ACCOUNTABILITY? 3 MIN SUMMARY Full 3 hour interview about the seditious conspiracy against President Trump in comments https://t.co/9cj2C1MkCQ

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Svetlana Lekova, described as an encyclopedia on accountability, has spent about ten years studying the subject and working with the Durham investigation. She says she has read every document, every note in every annex, including documents that were declassified by President Trump, then reclassified by Joe Biden after he “stole the election,” and then declassified again by Trump when he came into office. She rejects the claim that President Trump gave her classified documents. Despite ongoing accusations, she notes that they have not stopped pursuing her and she has not stopped fighting. Lekova requests the audience to consider the Florida case she views as significant and to explain what it is about. She asserts that accountability is finally, hopefully, happening, but she remains cautious because of what she has seen in other high-profile cases, such as Jim Comey, where she believes the judiciary, juries, and prosecutors have been compromised. After ten years of involvement with the Durham investigation, she had been told there would be prosecutions. She recalls that prosecutors had Hillary Clinton under oath and John Brennan under oath, and that it was a criminal investigation. Then, according to her, it “disappeared,” and nothing happened. Lekova describes a sequence where authorities raided the president’s home, and he was “almost assassinated,” with attempts to jail him. She says the result appeared to be that not only would the “bad guys” not go to jail, but the “good guy” trying to bring them to account would end up jailed for the rest of his life, at least in their perception of the situation. She notes that President Trump, through what she calls “amazing” grace, managed to come back and that “you guys somehow managed to vote him in” in such large numbers that there was no alternative for the election. She asserts that the first thing he did upon returning was to promise accountability. Speaker 0 clarifies the context by noting that the Florida case is “so significant” and asks Lekova to describe what it is really about. Speaker 1 reiterates that accountability is being pursued, acknowledging historical concerns about the judicial system, including the perception of brainwashed juries and corrupt prosecutors, and explains that, after a long period of inertia in the justice process, President Trump’s reelection framed the possibility of accountability and that he, as president, has the responsibility to hold the bad guys accountable because he is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.
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Speaker 0: So many of us are wondering about accountability, but the one woman who's like an encyclopedia as a professor, you know, she didn't become a professor by being dumb, but Svetlana Lekova has spent the better part of ten years now studying this. She worked with the Durham investigation. She has read every single document, everything in the annex, every note in every annex. She has, documents that were declassified by president Trump, then reclassified by Joe Biden after he stole the election, and then declassified again by president Trump when he came into office. They tried to say that president Trump gave her classified documents. That was a lie. They haven't stopped going after her, and she hasn't stopped fighting. So Svetlana, can you take us through this case in Florida that you think is so significant and just explain what it's really about? Speaker 1: First of all, you're right that we're finally finally seeing, hopefully, accountability. We obviously don't know because you know, we've unfortunately seen in the cases where for example, they indicted Jim Comey, that unfortunately the judicial system is in a very bad place. We have access to judges, have this completely brainwashed juries, and we have corrupt prosecutors and everything in between. So usually I would say having dealt with this whole thing for about ten years and having hoped for accountability for ten years, I initially, to be honest, gave up on hoping that there will be any accountability because when I worked closely with the DIRUM investigation, I was told and I had the prosecutor assigned to this Russia gay case who was speaking to me. I knew there was going to be prosecutions. They've gone as far as putting Hillary Clinton under oath and John Brannon under oath. It was a criminal investigation. And then boom, it just disappeared. Nothing happened. So I frankly did not expect anything to happen. Then of course, they almost, you know, they raided the president's home. Then obviously, he was almost assassinated. Then they were trying to jail him. So the end result was that, you know, not only they were never going to be accountability, it looked like, you know, we had the mugshot, you know, being paraded around of the president of The United States. So it looks like not only the bad guys will never go to jail, but in fact, the good guy who was trying to bring them to account is instead going to go to jail for the rest of his life. So that was that. And then only through some amazing, I suppose grace, I don't know how else to call it, president Trump somehow managed to come back and you guys somehow managed to vote him in. And I suppose you're right in such droves to vote him in that they couldn't do anything about this particular election and he came back. And the first thing he did is he promised, you know, among other things, he promised accountability. Speaker 0: That's Speaker 1: correct. He promised it for two reasons. One is obviously because, you know, those who committed crimes need to be held accountable. He is a chief law enforcement of The United States. Sorry, chief law enforcement officer of The United States. So, as a president, he actually has the responsibility to hold the bad guys accountable. It's his job.
Saved - January 28, 2026 at 1:25 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

https://youtu.be/kyDUlanwZTw?si=MztqZTjt1Oetc4fD

Saved - January 25, 2026 at 7:43 AM
reSee.it AI Summary
I allege Warner conspired with Christopher Steele; covered for CIA operative Stefan Halper and hid his identity; Warner's link to ex-FBI Asst. Dir. Alan Kohler; Kohler organized the raid on President Trump's home to seize Russiagate-related evidence by Halper and Steele.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Receipts: -Warner conspiring with British spy Christopher Steele -Warner covering up for CIA operative and Steele's Russiagate co-conspirator, liar Stefan Halper, and Warner protecting his identity -Warner's relationship with disgraced former FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler -Kohler organizing the raid on President Trump's home to steal evidence of Russiagate crimes by Halper, Steele and co.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Mark, speaking of FBI agents, can you explain your friendship with former FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler, who managed Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper and organized the Mar-a-Lago Raid of President Trump's home?

@MarkWarner - Mark Warner

FBI agents are notoriously tight-lipped and media-shy. The fact that they’re coming forward in scores to raise the alarm about Patel’s horrible leadership should scare the hell out of all of us.

Saved - January 21, 2026 at 3:39 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

John Brennan's visit follows Obama's numerous visits to London in September 2025. This comes after the DOJ opened a Grand Jury investigation into the treasonous conspiracy against President Trump in August 2025. https://t.co/69IJvpfXCC

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Former CIA Director John Brennan was in London, England, on November 5, 2025, two weeks before his Florida Grand Jury subpoena deadline, to speak in front of the UK House of Lords What other meetings did he have? Brennan ran the CIA's anti-Trump ops out of London https://t.co/xPdKa7EqDU

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The first speaker notes perturbations in intelligence agencies due to political appointees, especially early on when appointees lacked experience with intelligence. He observes some individuals have decided to retire or leave the national security community, but believes many colleagues will continue their work because it is critically important. He suggests professionals are trying to keep their heads down and focus on responsibilities as political winds in Washington blow strongly. The second speaker adds a historical perspective, noting that at the nadir of US-UK political relations around the Suez crisis, US and UK intelligence services (GCHQ and NSA) were working hand in glove, studying the Soviet intervention in Hungary, despite surface tensions. He expresses confidence that professionals will be able to carry on with their duties. The third speaker mentions that, in Washington, civil servants have been behaving like hostages, unable to speak out for fear of saying the wrong thing. He confirms that firings across departments have made people concerned about their livelihoods and ability to continue work. He hopes intelligence officers will continue to provide objective, evidence-based assessments to US policymakers, regardless of White House policy preferences, and notes the importance of the integrity of the intelligence process for both US and British security. He acknowledges that both US and British intelligence have made mistakes, but emphasizes a sense of strong integrity in British intelligence and questions whether US intelligence will maintain the same level of integrity and objectivity. He recalls his experience at CIN at the White House, where he worked closely with British colleagues to pursue Al Qaeda and destroy terrorist organizations. He recounts extensive conversations with British counterparts about the basis of intelligence, what the rules of engagement were, and their desire to understand and support the intelligence basis. He hopes that the rules of engagement and the intelligence basis for US actions around the globe remain strong, allowing British colleagues to continue counting on the US. The second speaker briefly affirms that this mutual reliability and collaboration would be expected to continue.
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Speaker 0: Have been reports of perturbations in these agencies as a result of some of these political appointees. I think a lot of that was early on because the individuals who were appointed did not have a lot of experience with intelligence or in the intelligence community. So I think they are probably learning more about the organizations that they run, the intelligence community overall. It's a complex, it's large intelligence community. But I know that there have been a number of individuals who have decided to retire or to leave, throughout the national security community, as a result of some of their concerns that they have. But again, I'm not inside these agencies. I'd like to think that a lot of my colleagues are still going to continue to do their work because it's so critically important that we do the work, we face the challenges around the globe. And so I think a lot of people are just trying to keep their head down focused on their their professional responsibilities. The political winds in Washington blow all the time. They're blowing rather strongly these days. But a lot of the intelligent professionals, you know, understand how to avoid getting caught up in those winds. Speaker 1: Perhaps I could just add a historical note there. If you were to take the nadir of US, UK relationships at the political level, it would probably be the breakdown, between The US president in 1956 and our prime president Eisenhower and sir Anthony Eden over the Suez debacle. I think I find it remarkable that during that, GCHQ and its US counterpart, the National Security Agency, were working hand in glove as one, studying the Soviet intervention in Hungary, for example, despite the waves that were lashing the surface, at that time. So I I I am confident that the professionals will be able to get on with what the professionals should be. Speaker 2: When I was in Washington, some of the people I met said that civil servants at the moment were behaving like hostages, unable to say anything in case they said something out of turn. Does that suggest it might be characteristic inside the intelligence agencies? Speaker 0: Well, I I have heard that as well from people who work in the federal government, not just in the intelligence community, but also in the policy agencies because of the massive firings that have taken place in so many departments and agencies. And so I do think that there are people who are concerned about their livelihood, their ability to continue in their work. So they may be keeping their head down. And there also are questions about whether or not I'd like to think that my former colleagues will continue to provide the intelligence, assessments, analysis that are going to be objective, are going to be evidence based, and are going to be presented to US policymakers irrespective of what the policy druthers might be coming out the White House. That is their obligation as intelligence officers, and I hope that they're gonna be able to continue to do that. Whether or not their policy overseers are going to resent that type of independence, but the integrity of the intelligence process, I think, is critical, not just to US national security, also to British national security. Even though US intelligence has made mistakes over the years, we all know about them, British intelligence has as well. There was a sense that there was very, you know, strong integrity attached to it. I think what my British former British colleagues are going to have to ask themselves, are they going to be confident that the same type of integrity and objectivity is going to be the hallmark of US intelligence? I like to think it is. One of my experiences when I was at CIN at the White House is that we worked very closely with our British colleagues in using intelligence to go after Al Qaeda and to destroy terrorist organizations. And I remember having extensive conversations with my British counterparts. They wanted to know what was the basis. What was the intelligence basis? What was the what were the rules of engagement? Because they didn't wanna be contributing to something that they couldn't support from their professional responsibilities. I'd like to think that though and we we were very much aligned on that issue once they understood exactly what we're doing. I'd like to think that the rules of engagement and the intelligence basis for what The US is doing around the globe is still going to be strong and that our British colleagues can continue to count Speaker 1: on us. It would be
Saved - January 18, 2026 at 9:43 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

When Pres Trump declassified the Crossfire Hurricane files, he said that “gives the media the right to go in and check it. You probably won't bother because you're not going to like what you see”. He was right. MSM not reporting on the release. https://t.co/40lhITMsaM

Saved - January 18, 2026 at 6:31 AM
reSee.it AI Summary
I denounce Goodlander as a dangerous Deep State foe and leader of the Seditious Six. I claim her wedding to Jake Sullivan drew the Clintons and other elites. I say she helped Norm Eisen craft Trump’s 2019 impeachment and, in 2021, became a top adviser to Merrick Garland, allegedly overseeing Durham. I assert I worked on Durham and know they probed Clinton, Sullivan, Halper, Steele, and others. I urge a DoJ probe into her conduct over the last decade, especially impeachment and Durham interference.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Despite her innocent looks and little girl’s voice, Goodlander is one of the most dangerous Deep State villains. She is the leader of the Seditious Six. Her wedding to Hillary Clinton’s top aide, Jake Sullivan, was attended by the Clintons, future CIA Director Bill Burns, Tony Blinken, Merrick Garland, and others. Goodlander worked with Norm Eisen to devise the first impeachment of President Trump in 2019. In 2021, Goodlander became a top advisor to Attorney General Merrick Garland and “oversaw” the Durham investigation into oblivion. I worked with the Durham Inquiry and I know that they were investigating Hillary Clinton, Jake Sullivan (Goodlander’s husband), CIA operative Stefan Halper, British intelligence operative Christopher Steele and others. I suggest that the DoJ investigates Goodlander’s conduct for the last 10 years, and specifically her role in the Trump impeachment and in interfering with the Durham investigation. @AGPamBondi @EdMartinDOJ @DAGToddBlanche @USAttyPirro

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Maggie Goodlander, the ringleader of the Sedition Six, confirms that she is under investigation by the Department of Justice https://t.co/xcplguqcVw

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"No matter the threats, I'm not backing down." "It is sad, telling, and downright dangerous that simply stating a bedrock principle of American law caused the president, our commander in chief, to threaten violence against me and to weaponize the Department of Justice against me." "I served at the Department of Justice." "I know that federal prosecutors have more control over the life and liberty of the American people than any other peacetime force." "I know that when these powers are used for good, they make us the more perfect union." "And I know that when these awesome powers are abused, when they are used to punish political opponents, to seek retribution, to do a president's personal bidding, there's nothing more dangerous in this country." "My message is clear. I took an oath to this constitution, and I intend to keep it." "I will never give up the ship."
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Speaker 0: No matter the threats, I'm not backing down. It is sad, telling, and downright dangerous that simply stating a bedrock principle of American law caused the president, our commander in chief, to threaten violence against me and to weaponize the Department of Justice against me. I served at the Department of Justice. I know that federal prosecutors have more control over the life and liberty of the American people than any other peacetime force. I know that when these powers are used for good, they make us the more perfect union. And I know that when these awesome powers are abused, when they are used to punish political opponents, to seek retribution, to do a president's personal bidding, there's nothing more dangerous in this country. My message is clear. I took an oath to this constitution, and I intend to keep it. I will never give up the ship.
Saved - January 18, 2026 at 6:08 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

My interview with @laralogan on the 10-year Grand Conspiracy Against President Trump, ordered by Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Soros; executed by Brennan's CIA, Comey's FBI, and British intelligence. https://t.co/XjIh0XROmQ

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Svetlana Lekova describes how she became a central figure in the Russia collusion narratives targeting Donald Trump, portraying it as a manufactured story built around a false perception of her as a Russian spy and as someone who had an affair with General Michael Flynn. She identifies herself as a British academic, born in the Soviet Union, who studied at the University of Cambridge and taught there. In 2014 she attended a dinner at Cambridge connected to Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) head General Michael Flynn. The invitation came from Sergei Dyilov, former head of MI6, and her longtime professor Christopher Andrew. She was at Cambridge as a postgraduate student, writing a PhD on 1930s Soviet history, and teaching undergraduate courses. The dinner was part of a small group including Flynn, Dyilov, Andrew, and another colleague. Lekova recalls she was the only woman at the table, and the seating arrangement placed Flynn opposite her with other attendees between them; she did not sit next to him, and she did not initiate conversation with him beyond a brief exchange. She did pass a scanned document from the Stalin era to Dyilov, via Flynn’s chair, which impressed him; the document concerned Stalin’s letters to fellow revolutionaries. After the dinner, she photographed the event; Flynn left with his aides, and she stayed with colleagues, returning to a Cambridge hotel with her husband. Lekova explains that, nine months later in December 2016, as preparations for an intelligence assessment were underway, reporters began pressing her about the 2014 dinner and a supposed affair with Flynn. She emphasizes she was nine months pregnant at the time and had not thought of Flynn since the dinner. The media quickly circulated a narrative portraying her as a Russian spy who had an affair with Flynn, using her birthplace and academic specialty as a pretext to link her to Flynn and to Russia. She states that reporters from The Times (UK), The Guardian, The Times, The Financial Times, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post all had her contact information and pursued the story. Lekova says she and her husband responded through lawyers, initially resisting publication, then sending formal denials to the outlets when a propagandistic line—especially involving Stefan Halper, a Cambridge academic who allegedly acted as a source for the stories—emerged. She asserts that Halper was an FBI/ CIA operative who claimed the Cambridge seminar had been penetrated by the Kremlin and that Cambridge had to be protested; Halper later denied being at the Cambridge dinner. She notes her professor Andrew published an article in The Times arguing that Flynn showed attentions to her; Lekova says she confronted him, who refused to withdraw the piece, citing pressure. She claims he was an MI5 officer at the time and close to David Ignatius; Ignatius later met her in England, which she found extraordinary given her recent childbirth. Lekova asserts that the media’s persistence transformed a private dinner into a public indictment, aided by a broader campaign financed by Hillary Clinton’s campaign and Fusion GPS, with funding from George Soros and Reid Hoffman. She says the narrative relied on the credibility of prominent officials and media figures to create a perception of truth. She recounts personal threats, attempts to force her to disappear, and attempts to pressure her to retract or stay silent. The police advised her to move; she explains this was framed as a safety measure because the operation sought to erase her capacity to speak. She connects these events to a larger scheme she calls the Hillary plan: demonize Trump in the media by tying him to Putin, and then have the FBI start an investigation to fuel the narrative. She cites dates: Hillary Clinton allegedly approved the plan on July 26, 2016, and Brennan briefed Obama on July 27; Comey opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016. She contends Downer, an Australian ambassador who attended the Cambridge dinner, provided the crucial tip that launched the investigation, and that Gina Haspel, then with the CIA and later director, was involved via Five Eyes channels. Lekova asserts that the Cambridge gathering in July 2016—attended by Downer, Halper, and others, including Carter Page and Alexander Downer’s cohort—helped craft the so-called Hillary plan for a Russia trap. She insists that Halper and Steele, both tied to FBI and CIA networks, were working on the dossier used to target Trump, with Christopher Steele’s name attached to a report that was actually Hillary-advised. She alleges that journalists Rosenberg (NYT) and Goldman (WSJ) published a version of events that claimed she sought Flynn’s Moscow trip and that Flynn was compromised; she says Halper did not attend the dinner, undermining those reports. Lekova emphasizes that the operation extended beyond the United States, using Five Eyes channels to bypass congressional oversight and keep the investigation out of formal channels. She notes that this was coordinated with media outlets and high-ranking intelligence figures who publicly attacked Flynn and misrepresented her; she argues the purpose was to destroy a man seen as a threat to the political status quo and to influence the 2016 election narrative. She concludes by recalling ongoing investigations and trials that might reveal more about the Hillary plan and its proponents, insisting that the operation—financed by Hillary Clinton’s campaign, Soros, and Hoffman—was broader than the Russia story, and that the media and political elite were part of a concerted effort to neutralize Trump and his allies.
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Speaker 0: So now we can put all of these people in the same place. Right? So what they're doing is they're all implementing the Hillary Soares plan to tie, Donald Trump to Russian intelligence. And the plan consists of two items. One is to demonize him and his campaign in the media by tying him to Putin. And secondly, is to start a formal FBI investigation. Speaker 1: Welcome back to going rogue with Lara Logan, and my guest this week is sincerely one of the most one of the bravest women that I have known. This is a woman who was thrust into the spotlight for absolutely no reason whatsoever, except that she was the perfect mark, and she was needed by very bad people who were creating a false narrative to overthrow an American president. They were going after the most powerful people in the world and unfortunately for Svetlana Lekova, she was standing in the way. And we owe her truly, as a nation, we owe her a debt of gratitude because in spite of the fact that she was falsely targeted, that she was thrust into the headlines as being a Russian spy, which was not true, that she was exploited and battered by this massive disinformation machine worldwide, This brave woman who is also a mom and a wife and an incredibly compassionate and smart and lovely person, she has not taken a knee. In spite of everything they have done to her, she has stood strong, she has maintained her position on the battlefield, she has been consistent, I have been following her for years. And the one there is one marker that I consider carries more weight than most when you try to evaluate and understand the integrity and the character of a person, the true nature of a person, and that is consistency. And I have to say that Svetlana Lekova has been consistent in telling the truth, in being bold, in being brave, in acting in spite of the cost, and without any further ado, I would like to introduce this incredible woman so that you can hear her story. Her story would be known by everyone all over the world if our media were not part of this operation and were not so corrupt and so dishonest. And we really do owe her an apology for what we've put her through, but she's not asking for one. She just wants justice. So, Svetlana Lekova, I know it's the middle of the night there, 03:30 in the morning. It's very kind of you to do this interview for us from the other side of the world. I know you've been to hell and back a number of times, and I just let's start. Can we start by you explaining who you are so people understand how did this woman become one of the central figures in the Russia collusion hoax targeting president Trump and general Michael Flynn? Speaker 0: Well, hi, Lara. Thank you so much for having me on. And you, of course, have been following this nightmare, this conspiracy of Russiagate for many, many years. And, of course, I followed you for a long time. And you also, of course, exposed a lot of other abuses of government power. And I'm very, very honored to be here with you and also for your audience to hear, my story, but also the story that affects, all of us. Mhmm. So thank you so much for having me on. So, who am I? Well, actually, nobody, and that's kind of the whole point of of the story, which is that I I'm not an operative. I'm not a politician. I'm just a mom. I'm British. I was born in Soviet Union. I immigrated as a kid to England, and I'm a relatively unknown academic. I was blessed to be able to study and later, do my PhD and teach at University of Cambridge, one of the top universities in the world. And it's relatively, you know, obscure subject, So very important for me academically, but something you kind of most likely never heard of, which is nineteen thirties, you know, Soviet history. And I was, there at Cambridge, and in 2014, head of defense intelligence agency then under president Obama visited Cambridge, general Flynn, and attended a dinner, and I was one of the people at the dinner. And that was it. That was the main dinner. Speaker 1: Svetlana, sorry to interrupt you, but so that we put it in context for people. That was the famous dinner hosted by the former head of MI six, which is really kinda like the CIA in The UK. And and this gentleman had this dinner at his home, Michael Flynn, who was then head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the DIA, under president Obama, was one of the guests. And they fabricated, they used that occasion where the two of you were at the table among many others, and they fabricated this narrative that you were somehow the honeypot. Right? That you left the dinner with General Flynn, that you went on the train together, and they tried and when they were building this false narrative that somehow Trump was a Russian spy and Putin was his handler and that Russia had installed him as president, what they did was they destroyed you and your life in going after Trump and General Flynn and creating this false narrative that somehow you were having an affair with General Flynn, and I've known General Flynn and his beautiful wife Lori for many, many years. They are they are high school sweethearts who dated all through college and got married very young and have a beautiful family, and General Flynn has never looked sideways. I mean, you know that man, you know as I did when I saw the the stories, when I saw the fake headlines and the false narrative being propagated, I knew it was a lie. I knew it was a lie. I just didn't know you. That's right. Speaker 0: And that's why as somebody who was completely apolitical and especially obviously had no business knowing much about American politics. The first time I realized that the whole Russia collusion story was a lie because I was the centrepiece in this Russia collusion. Yeah. And it was all based on a very simple, horrible story that I somehow had an affair with general Flynn and that I was a Russian spy. But I knew two things, and this is back in 2017. I knew two things. Actually, probably even late twenty sixteen or 2017. One is that I'm not a Russian spy. And two, that I did not sleep with general Flynn. What that then meant for me is I then realized that the whole thing, the the whole Russia collusion narrative, which is simply not true. And now, of course, you know, there had been a number of investigations and now people have, you know, found out what I knew from the very beginning. And, yes, I mean, I'm academically very accomplished, but you don't have to be a genius to know the whole story was a lie. And there was a lie, designed to legitimize, a democratically elected president to, get American people to believe, that he wasn't actually elected by them, but he was installed by a foreign power. And therefore, it's okay to unleash the whole national security apparatus, against him. Speaker 1: And can you take us through that dinner? What rarely happened versus what they said? Speaker 0: So there's an interesting prehistory to this dinner because, again, I specialize in rather obscure subjects. I specialize in nineteen thirties history, and I wasn't particularly sure why I was invited to this in 2014. And I was personally invited by, as you mentioned, Sergey Sergey Dyilov. He used to be a former head of m I six, as you say British AA, and he became a master of a Cambridge College, masters like a principal. And he invited me along with other people. And the second person who was involved in this invitation was professor Christopher Indrew, and he was at my history professor, somebody I've known since I was a kid, so since I was 18. And he was also involved in inviting me to his dinner. And, you know, we because University of Cambridge is a, you know, is a prestigious organization Yes. You know, people do come and visit it. So on its on its face to me at the time, it wasn't particularly suspicious. But looking back at it now, I mean, I didn't actually know, you know, obviously, you know, heard of Donald Trump, heard of, say, in the FBI, but I haven't even heard of the defense intelligence agency. I mean, it exists. Right? But it's not not something I've been familiar with. Sure. I haven't heard my name Michael Flynn, so it wasn't particularly clear to me why would I be needed, you know, to attend this dinner. Speaker 1: Like how are you relevant? Here you are this Yeah. This person at Cambridge, right? You're teaching Soviet 1930 Soviet history and now the principal of the school, so Richard Diela, former head of MI six and your friend, your history professor who you've known all your life, they're like, you know, Svetlana come on over to this really this highly prestigious dinner, right, with an American figure who is running the Defense Intelligence Agency of the United States. I mean, that's a that's not the average invitation. Speaker 0: No. And and it mean, one is obviously he's very high ranking person, but on but but the second thing, it just wasn't in my particular field of, you know, expertise. Right? There was not much I could add to the conversation. The way it was explained to me is they were inviting sort of, you know, their best and brightest to show off to the DIA. But, anyway, that that what was the invitation was. Mhmm. I later heard, and this is something that perhaps, you know, needs to be investigated or maybe has been already, but needs to be made public, that perhaps this was being used in 2014 when general Flynn was railroaded out of the Defense Intelligence Agency. That was one of the things. That's what's something Devin Nunes who investigated this, he suggested that was used by people like John Brennan, the former shea director, by people like Jim Clapper, who was general Flynn's boss at the time. Perhaps they already used that story back in 2014, the manufactured story about me and general Flynn, in order to railroad him out of the Defense Intelligence Agency. And as it happened, he retired voluntarily. And so, obviously, the story sort of died there then, Speaker 1: but pres They forced him out. Speaker 0: Right. Right. But presumably, it stayed in the files. Mhmm. And it looks from just what what people who investigated it are saying openly is that they just recycled that much later. They took a preexisting story about General Flynn and me, and then from 2014, and they recycled it in 2016 in order to because it was already in the files Right. In order to make it look and, like, we've had you know, again, like, we had an affair, but this time, it became even more significant because they were alleging that president Trump or rather candidate Trump at that point was colluding with Russia. But there was no Trump Russia collusion, so they had to manufacture that. And you will recall that the whole Trump Russia collusion story was based on contacts between senior people in the Trump campaign and members of Russian intelligence. Mhmm. So in order for their story to work, they had to who was the most senior person in the Trump campaign? General Flynn. So they had to make him into the Russian spy for their story to work out. Speaker 1: Yes. That's right. And so and so they resurrected this this old hit job, right, that somehow at this dinner and presumably the link with you is that you're you came from the former Soviet Union, that's where you were born as and, you know, you you came to Britain from there, and that also you have this specialty in your academic studies of nineteen thirties Soviet history. So they use this circumstantial, information to create a false tie. And then they what did they say happened at the dinner? Speaker 0: Yes. So what happened was well, first of all, it kind of didn't really matter. You know how they say in Agatha Christie detective stories, it's not who she is, it's who she is. So who I actually was, it didn't matter. The fact that I they took my name. They they they took my identity. It's like identity theft. Right? Mhmm. And attached a completely different story, completely manufactured story. So all they needed is the fact that I was born in Russia. I was a woman, and I was by their own invitation in the same at the same event as Jennifer. That's all they needed. And, you know, there's a very famous novel by John La Carrere, who is himself former m s six guy who is a famous spy writer. And in a novel called The Spy Who Came in from the Cold, they set up their own operative. And one of the things they do is they create this notional affair with this woman. And she's asking, like, how did they know that we were gonna meet? How they don't did they know that we're going to have to fall in love? And he said the operation didn't depend on it. So as it happened, those people in the novel had a relationship. It didn't matter because he said they just needed to put us into room the room together. And then they can make up any story they like that there was a fair, was in infatuation. The very presence of me and Jennifer in the same room was enough for your intelligence services and our intelligence services, The UK Intelligence Services, to manufacture whatever they like. And then what they did is they classified the files. So that way, they can then put into the media whatever they like. Speaker 1: So can you take me through exactly what happened at that dinner? Speaker 0: Yes. And I think that's very important because this was actually a subject of investigation by special counsel Durham. And they went through with me all the steps. So I had to go through all my emails of the night and just, you know, ask people who were there, you know, for their recollections. We have a relatively good picture. It's all the events happened in 2014, but because it's so important for historic purposes and hopefully for investigatory, purposes, we were able to reconstruct events. So what happened is, as I mentioned, I received this invitation for this dinner. It took place on February 2834. And, Jennifer Flynn gave a talk, first at Corpus Christi College, which is a college of my university, professor Christopher Andrew. And he gave a very, very good talk about, you know, the future, challenges that are facing Defense Intelligence Agency. And after the talk, we moved on to this, dinner where, you know, only a dozen of us were united. Now my husband accompanied me my then fiance accompanied me, to the talk with Jennifer Flynn, and then he also walked with me to to the talk within one of the colleges. And then the dinner was in another college as you as you mentioned, which should deal off private, accommodation. Speaker 1: And all of this is at Cambridge University. Correct? Speaker 0: That's right. That's right. And it's a very small, I mean, maybe, like, sort of like MIT perhaps. Mhmm. But it's just MIT is, like, one university, whereas, Cambridge although it's also one university, it's a bit it consists of a bunch of colleges. And all of them are usually between the central ones are between five to ten minute walk from each other, and then you have some sort of, you know, like, twenty minutes walk. But it's basically all very small. And so we all walked from we, meaning myself, my husband, and, another member of the seminar, we walked from the location of the talk by Jane O'Flynn, to the location of this dinner, which was about fifteen you know, five, ten minutes walk. But then there is another five minutes because it's quite big, you know, big grounds. And you'll you'll see why it matters later because remember all this information or other misinformation is up in API files. And so the total walking time was probably about fifteen minutes. It was very dark, cold, you know, February in in England. It's not a nice time. Yeah. And yes. And here we are. We we arrived. And the so my husband left me with my fellow person from our seminar, from our Cambridge seminar that I was a member of, which was hosting the fluent event. And me and this gentleman, we went upstairs, and there was a very nice sort of layout. It was all in a very, very beautiful, you know, wood, candles, you know, very sort of medieval Cambridge type look. And there was some drinks be be before dinner. Mhmm. And I think I was just introduced to general Flynn, like, just by name, and then I think he just, like, did rounds. And remember, I'm I was a very junior person. So majority of the time, of course, you spend speaking to Sarvich Djelov, who is, you know, the head of m I six, former, but, you know, they're never former. And then also my professor, Christopher Ranger. So he was talking to them. And another thing to add is that in Cambridge, we have this about forty minutes from Cambridge, we have a NATO slash DIA joint base, which for NATO operations in Europe called Malzwarf. It used to be an old Royal Air Force Base. Joint Speaker 1: base Molesworth. Speaker 0: Gen mhmm. Molesworth. That's it. RAF Molesworth. And General Flynn actually, just from reports, visited the base because that's where a lot of DIA people are stationed in Europe. And some of those people were actually doing PhD in Cambridge. So some of those people attended that dinner, so he obviously was chatting to them, you know, and Richard did love that. That's pretty much with who he was interested in. The one, obviously, person he wasn't interested was me because I had nothing very little to nothing to do. So he was polite, but he wasn't you know, we didn't have a particular discussion. And then we sat at the dinner. So I was the only woman in the room, And I was set, so the table was, like, really, really big, you know, with candles and bottles and plates and cutlery. So it was all very, very pretty, but also very big. So Jeno Flynn was on the opposite side of me, and I sat in between Richard Delav and another person who I said as I said, was a colleague of ours. And then Jeno Flynn was on opposite side, and he was next to Christopher Andrew and another person between the two of them. So, actually, we had a quite a long distance between us. Imagine it's it's it's a really, big table. Right? The reason why this detail is important is because later in the media, they said that I came up to him, at at at the drinks, and chatted him up, and I was just come came up to him by know, took everyone by surprise despite the fact that, know, I was actually invited, and I didn't come up to him. He was introduced to me. Then the report said that I sat next to him, but I didn't sit next to him. I was very far away from him. And, majority of the dinner conversation revolved around politics, and they were the men the the senior men were talking. I frankly wasn't particularly listening because it was a very long day for me. I had to teach that morning. And so I had to get up very early. I had to mark up the papers. Then I had a bunch of other things to do. So I what was Svetlana, just to Speaker 1: be clear, what was your position at Cambridge at the time? Speaker 0: So I was a postgraduate student. I was writing my PhD. And at the same time, I was teaching undergraduate students on subjects such as Russian revolution or, you know, first or second world war, you know, basically things quite, you know, removed from, you know, the current political events. So I then and I was writing my PhD on on the on on nineteen thirties. And then at some point during the dinner, I remember that Richard Dearlauf and and general Flynn, they had some sort of, you know, heated debates about some things. I don't remember whether it was Ukraine or Middle East because there were quite a few things happening at that point. I wasn't particularly paying attention, to be honest. And then my professor Christopher Andrews said suddenly interrupted them perhaps to, you know, calm down the atmosphere and said, oh, and Svetlana now will show you this document she found in the Stalin archive. And I was kind of a bit annoyed because I didn't want to start sort of looking for documents. I I usually carry an iPad with me and I have my documents scanned, But it was sort of in the middle of dinner, but because my professor told me to do it, I did. So I found the document. I showed him. And in fact, I didn't actually pass even the iPad to General Flynn. I passed it to Richard Dieloff, and he got up and passed it to General Flynn. Again, I'm trying to point out how little contact we even had with each other. Right? Yes. And it was a document from 1912, and general Flynn was, you know, impressed that I found this document because at that stage, you know, Joseph Stalin, who later became very well known, you know, dictator, He was in fact himself a revolutionary on the run of of the terrorist secret police. And he was writing this letter to tell his fellow revolutionaries that he got somewhere safely, that he escaped safely because they were trying to jail him. And it was just it was a cool document. I found it. It's a great document. And then he and other people at the table asked me to email other Americans, asked asked me to email them their documents, which I did. And that's kind of the extent of that. And then what happened after the dinner is I took some photographs. So I'm a junior person, so I usually try and like, if I can, I also took some photographs earlier when General Flynn did the speech? I usually do that if we have visitors. And then, again, Geno Flynn and his so he was he was accompanied by his assistant. I think it was at least one, maybe two. And they will ask me, oh, can you just email us the photos as well? So so I did that. And that was really that. And then the next thing that happened is General Flynn left first with those who you know, he's a very senior figure, so he had quite a few people accompanying him. Yeah. So he left, and that was it. And I stayed behind with, you know, my colleagues at university. And at some point, you know, we had the discussion about how great it was, how we managed to impress, you know, the head of defense intelligence agency, which was a big deal because, you know, as I said, we had this link with Died Molesorf. And then my husband was waiting for me. So a colleague of mine who sat next to me, he walked me through the the college grounds, which is about five to ten minute walk. And then I met my husband, and we then went we were staying in a hotel in Cambridge. So we went to the hotel in Cambridge with my husband, and that was it. That's that's the whole thing. Now imagine my surprise when in December so I'm nine months pregnant. I start getting calls in December 2016. So this is what we now know about the context is this is when they were preparing the intelligence community assessment, which is something which currently is subject to lots of news coverage because this is something now subject to criminal investigation by the Department of Justice, is that president Obama gave order he's now the outgoing president in December 2016, so we fast forward. He gave an order to make a finding that Russia interfered Mhmm. To help, you know, install president Trump. And it was based on the assessment by people like Brennan Comey and Clapper that there were contacts between senior, Trump intelligence, Trump campaign officials and Russian intelligence. So it later transpired that my story was needed when, because after the election, they wanted to overthrow the incoming president before he even started. Mhmm. And they needed this contact, this manufacturer's contact between me, who they portrayed as Russian intelligence, and general Flynn. So they started all calling me the operatives in the media, and that's why I've been so vocal about the role of the media because I don't consider them journalists. I consider them operatives. They started calling me, and all of them had my number that so the Washington Post, David Ignatius, The New York Times, so this is Adam Goldman, Matthew Rosenberg, The Wall Street Journal, and also newspapers in England, so it's The Guardian, The Times. All of them had my contact details. Again, I was a nobody. Right? Nobody knew who I was other than people interested in nineteen thirty's Soviet stuff. Right? And suddenly, they asked me about a dinner in 2014, and my relationship this is this is December 2016. Right? Yeah. My relationship I mean, Speaker 1: and let's just let's just recap that. So you go from February 2014 when you attend the dinner, February 28, all the way Right. To 2016, so it's what more than two and a half years later? Speaker 0: Right. Almost three because it's '16. Speaker 1: Almost three years later. You have since you've you've you're married, you have you're pregnant how many months pregnant? Nine. Nine. You're nine months pregnant. You're living happily with your husband, you've never probably never thought about General Flynn again other than occasionally when it might be in the news or something like that, And suddenly you have this slew of reporters from these major publications who all have your contact information, your name, who all know about this and now they want to press you on the details of your affair with general Michael Flynn, is completely and utterly fabricated. Speaker 0: That's right. And they start in December 16. I had no idea what was going on. I was very naive. And remember, I I'm not even known in The United Kingdom. Right? Let alone in The United States. Yes. Yes. So who, you know, who gave who, you know, who who who was able to organize all of this? This is a huge operation. Right? And so in The UK, we have quite strict so for the first people who came was the chief reporter of the Times of London, and the Times of London is our, you know, paper record. It's very serious stuff. And I initially thought it's just some sort of joke, then it wasn't very funny. Right? Because I'm nine months pregnant, and I don't particularly want to be known as a Russian spy, you know, who goes around having affairs with, you know, US top adviser to the to the to the incoming president. So we threatened with litigation, and they wouldn't publish the story. Then the Feet, the Financial Times, in in London published the story, and this is somebody who's gonna come into the picture, know, in a in a very big way. Somebody called Stefan Halper, who is this American professor. Stefan Halper. Appeared on the record. Right? And and I will tell you in a minute And the trade. Yes. He's going to become he he's actually a CIA and FBI operative. And he appeared on the record saying that the seminar that general Flynn attended was penetrated by Cambridge so Cambridge seminar was penetrated by by the Kremlin and that he helped or resigned from a seminar in protest, and now our parliament was gonna investigate this. None of that none of that's true, but they put that story out on December 1536, which is precisely the date when they changed the intelligence community assessment. Right? Like I said, you know, president Obama ordered it to change to say that basically nothing happens, that the elections were fine and legitimate, into that, president Trump was installed by Russia and that there were this contacts between Russian intelligence and Trump campaign advises. And then the next thing that happens is I get more and more of these approaches and especially when Geno Flynn is forced to leave, the Trump administration. Yes. I and my own professor, this is professor Andrew who I've known since I was 18. So this is for, like, twenty years. He writes an article in The Times Sunday Times saying that general Flynn showed attentions to me. Wow. Saying that he invited me to go to Moscow with him. None of it is true. And and I contacted him, and I asked, like, why why did you do that? And can you would withdraw this, please? He he was at the dinner. He knows nothing happened. And he refused, and he said that someone would have pressurized him. But we now found out, and I had posted about that recently, we now find out that, in fact, he wasn't so although he's a history professor Yes. In fact, at the time when he wrote this article, he was a serving MI five officer. MI five is our version of FBI in The UK. And there are not that many it's a very senior position. So my history professor is somebody I've known since I was a teenager, Speaker 1: and Yes. Speaker 0: I know his family. Right? I stayed over at his place with his you know, I know his wife. I know his grandkids, kids, and everyone. He came to visit me, and he knows my husband. He knows my whole family. So somebody I've known for many, many years was actually serving within the, you know, UK intelligence community. And so he wrote that article as part of this, and then this and then it transpired that he's a close friend of David Ignatius. And David Ignatius was the man who leaked, as you will recall, famously this this conversation that Geno Flynn had with Russian ambassador. And then David Ignatius flew to England, to meet me, and I've just had a baby. And my professor is trying to get me to meet David Ignatius to discuss my relationship with Geno Flynn. And I said, you know, are you out of your mind? And, you know, people knew at the time I had a very difficult childbirth. I lost a lot of blood, and I was you know, it was it was horrible. And, you know, I survived, but, you know, I I wasn't in a good, you know, state at all. Yes. And I found even I didn't know that at that point, right, that there was some kind of operation. Right? I didn't know that. I was very naive at the time. I I wasn't aware of American politics. But what I did know, it was completely inappropriate and wrong Sure. That suddenly all these people were trying to imply these really bad things. Speaker 1: And so my husband Let me let me stop you there for one moment. What were you telling these reporters when they were calling you to ask about this? What were you saying to them? Speaker 0: So what happened is we consulted lawyers because initially, we're just gonna ignore them. Yeah. And the lawyers suggested that we can't just ignore them. Again, remember, we didn't know it was an operation, but we knew that this is very dangerous. Right? Because I'm basically being accused of being a traitor. I'm accused of, you know, performing basically, you know, having affairs on, you know, in on behalf of a foreign power with senior US intelligence officials. Right? So there was a very serious accusation. And so the lawyers recommended that we respond. Mhmm. But I wasn't in a position to respond because my doctors were telling me I shouldn't, right, because I was recuperating. And all of this is with a new baby. Is my only child. Right? She was, like, two weeks old. So my husband wrote to each of those reports, starting with David Ignatius and to The New York Times and to Wall Street Journal, basically saying that your source is acting maliciously. So we knew Halper was a source. Stefan Halper was a source Mhmm. For these accusations, but we didn't know that he was an FBI or CAA operative at that point. Right? Yes. We just knew that he was this Cambridge academic, this American guy, and we knew he was, like, a bad guy. And because he he also, gave information to Financial Times that, you know, there was this this Kremlin penetration of the Cambridge seminar. So we figured he he and people confirmed to us. The journalists confirmed to us that he was the source for the stories. So we said that, you know, I never met General Flynn. Sorry. I only met General Flynn once. I've never had an affair with General Flynn. I never met General Flynn after this one dinner to which I was invited to, and that I've never been alone with him at all. And that this is and, obviously, I'm not a Russian spy, and that, you know, their source is acting maliciously. And we sent all of this response to all of the publications. And what was very interesting is I think they didn't expect the pushback. Right? And then we threatened litigation. So although it's very difficult to sue in The United States, as you know, but at least we said, look. If you're gonna continue spreading this, you're gonna face consequences. And so I think that helped a lot to blow up. I think that one of the reasons why later, you know, was attacked even more is I think I helped to blow up this Russia collusion story. Mhmm. Because here, they had on the record a statement from me saying that their whole story was a lie. And that's at the time when Cormy, Brennan, Yates, all these people were on TV every day, you know, chief telling American people that there is an investigation into Trump campaign context of Russia and Russian intelligence. And I, who was supposed to be the chief Russian intelligence person who was in contact with head of Evangelina Flynn, was saying, no. No. No. These are these are lies, and we're going to take legal action. Speaker 1: Wow. It's quite incredible because I remember that time very well and I knew that it was a lie, but, you know, there was just a barrage, right? It was it was constant. It was just never ending from every day you were waking up to another detail and another detail and another detail and ordinarily these details wouldn't even be significant. But when you have all of the media acting together as operatives, what did they do? They take they take every little detail and they act like, this is a huge breaking story. You know, one more set, you know, more proof that Trump is a Russian spy, more proof that General Flynn was, you know, having, contacts with Russia, more proof that that Russia collusion, is true when, of course, it was completely and utterly fabricated and paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign through Fusion GPS, the FBI, the White House, Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Stroke, Page, all of these people were a 100% involved and they were not the only ones. And I can only imagine, I mean as a mother and as know as a woman and just as a fellow human being, for you to be going through all of that with your baby and then just you know, we have the benefit of hindsight now and the benefit of knowledge and the benefit of the truth that's come out. And so it's easier to look back on all of this and make an assessment and understand it better. But at the time, when you I've been targeted like this, and when you're in the middle of that, it's like it's like being at the center of a of a hailstorm, right, or a tsunami. It's coming at you from every direction, and it I felt so powerless because they have all the levers of power. They have the voice. They have this giant media apparatus worldwide, then they have people with, you know, titles and positions of credibility behind their names like professor emeritus at Cambridge University. Right? You know, the former head of MI six who's now, you know, running Cambridge University. When they start weighing in publicly, when the clappers and the Brandons and the Schiffs, know, Adam Schiffs, head of the intel committee. Right? So surely, they must be telling the truth. And people that have known you all your life, people that love you are looking at you like you've lost your mind. You know? And so there's a huge personal cost, and my heart goes out to you Svetlana. I can only imagine how difficult was it for you personally during that time. Speaker 0: Well, you're you're spot on, and there's some very specific points you make made, which we now know from, you know, research and the documents that come out, you know, how spot on you are on on on on these things. So for example, one of the things is this, you know, haunting you and, you know, a switch hunt. Right? That's deliberate. It's an operation. Right? So for example, in my case, what they did is they sent reporters to my house and to my neighborhood with my with my portrait. So they found, like, a picture of me when I was much younger, very good looking, and they printed it, and I didn't even look like that. Right? Like, I'm a lady, pregnant lady, and then, you know, just with the with the with the first kid. Right? But they found a picture. I was young. They printed it out, and they went and knocked on the doors of my neighbors and said and said, like, she she's a Russian spy. Right? So, of course, the neighbors were, like, asking questions. Then we started receiving credible, you know, threats to our address home address, and the Metropolitan Police had to be involved. And the advice of the Metropolitan Police was we can't do anything unless something happens to you. And, of course, we don't want that to happen, so they advised us to move. So we had to change locations, like, numerous times because, basically, I realized at that point that I'm on my own. Nobody's gonna help me. Wow. The authorities are not going to help me because they needed me to disappear. They needed me to basically, they needed something bad to happen to me. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: Right? So that's because I was shouting. So imagine Call Me Bran and all these people on TV Yes. Saying that Flynn was compromised. He's a traitor. Because they had to take somebody who's completely squeaky Flynn, part of the hero Mhmm. Right, who never took any money, who was not engaged in drugs, sex, or anything like that, And they had to construct a narrative, rewrite his whole life in order to make people believe that indeed he betrayed his country. So do you remember when famous judge said, you were sitting there, you know, in the in the American flag behind you whilst you betraying your country. Mhmm. They had to you know, I'm a historian. I know what they needed to do. They needed to write his history, the false history of how he became a traitor. Right? Because otherwise, people couldn't believe, you know, somebody who was prepared to give his life for his country. Why would why would he go work for the Russians? Right? So they needed to persuade people, of that. So it was a very complicated and sophisticated operation. Speaker 1: Yes. Because otherwise, they wouldn't believe it. Right? I mean, they just wouldn't believe it because it doesn't make sense. Speaker 0: Right. And that's why I had to I had to I had to be this Russian spy. We had to have this affair because then then they can say, okay. And this is what Brennan said. Brennan said at his testimony to congress that, that Flynn, unwittingly became a traitor. So he might have not realized that he became a traitor. Speaker 1: Which is how you explain that someone who has the profile of a heroic figure, someone who threw himself off a cliff as a young soldier to save two Navy SEALs that were being swept out. Right? And and who did that on his own. Someone who served his country with distinction, who had been honored on the battlefield, who had risen to the ranks as someone who was known for his integrity and his loyalty and his commitment to this country. Now if you're going to turn that person into a traitor, you have to show, oh look he cheated on his wife. He's not really the good guy. Right? He's actually a bad guy. Oh, and by the way, you know, how do you explain away all those contact with the Russians? Because really as the head of the DIA, it was his job to have contacts with the intelligence services in every country on earth. Well, how do you turn those into something? Could that go from something logical and reasonable into something that is believable? You you create you take somebody like you and you absolutely destroy that person in building this completely false narrative. Speaker 0: And that's why, you know, that's why the media is so complacent in this because they needed to, verify each other. They needed to re for this fake story to suddenly be embedded in the public consciousness. Right? Like, one day, he's a war hero who went and, you know, killed all the terrorists and, you know, got rid of all the bad guys and and did anything, you know, everything he could for his country, and now he's a traitor. Right? You had to keep repeating it. It has to come as what you you made a very important point. The all the people that they they presented, you know, who am I? Right? I'm a nobody. Nobody nobody was believing what I was saying. I'm some girl from England. Right? With with was born in in in Soviet Union. On the other hand, as you say, you have director of the CIA. You have head of MI six, you have director of and they all repeat and repeat, and you have New York Times, and you have and they repeat the same story over and over again That's right. Until it becomes true. This is Gables. Right? This is a classic Speaker 1: It's Casa Gables. Yes. If you just keep telling the lie over and over again, eventually people will believe it. Speaker 0: Right. And it's also the figures and authority, the figures of respect. This is what's so scary about it. I think you made a very important point. It had it could only work if it would be figures, of respectability. And so it's their word against mine. Mhmm. Right? And so that's why but even then, my voice was still getting through, and that's why they needed to attack me so badly. You know? That's why they needed to, you know, to, you know, cause for me to receive all these threats. They wanted me to go into hiding and shut up because I kept you know, I joined social media and, you know, we're very lucky even on back back when Twitter was still something, you know, in 2017. I was able to go on social media and say, this this lies. And people said, listen to me. Right? I was able to start telling my story. And so they escalated all these operations against me, not because I'm somebody important, but because they need to silence me. Right? As as you pointed out what happened to you, people start listening to the truth. People can the American people, they they know the truth when they hear it. Speaker 1: That's right. Speaker 0: And then the doubts about the government propaganda starts, you know, feeding into their heads thinking, hang on a second. That that I should trust this person. You know? Listen to what they have to say. So they need to destroy that person, and Speaker 1: they need to destroy me. So for They want to break you so that you will go away, and their false narrative will be the only narrative that exists. Speaker 0: Right. Right. And that's why I had everything from, you know, very bad threats, you know, that the police took seriously into things like, you know, like, for example, even David Ignatius was saying, oh, we can perhaps if you, you know, if you basically, you know, say something about General Flynn, maybe we can help you with your book career, you know, as an author. So they were driving. Right? Then we had other person Are you serious? Rosenb yeah. Yeah. He put me in contact with his publisher and said, let's see what we can do. And but I I I have to tell the truth. You know, I'm not particularly sort of brave person, but but I could only tell the truth. I couldn't shut up. It's just not my character. Right? And then also so Matt Rosenberg, and, so he admitted that that he worked for John Brennan. He he he told it to people. Speaker 1: Are you serious? I'm sorry. I need you to say that again one more time. Matt Rosenberg, the journalist. Speaker 0: The New York Times journalist, yes. He admitted that the hit on Jenna Flynn was on direct orders of John Brad. He told you that? He told this to Matt Aibi. To Matt Aibi? Because Matt Aibi was investigating the story and then it got shut down. Speaker 1: Wow. That's And Yeah. That makes me nauseous. Speaker 0: And we have emails about that because and and funnily enough, so late not funnily, but it it's also proven by the fact that Rosenberg also got caught by project Veritas Mhmm. Where he said that he's receiving leaks from very senior people in the CIA. So he repeated it. But he specifically said that he was awarded by John Brennan. And the specific context of that is the New York Times, Adam Goldman and Rosenberg published an article in 2018, when it transpired that Stefan Halper, who was a fellow academic at Cambridge, that he was responsible for this fake story about me and Jen Flynn having an affair. And he was actually an FBI informant, and also CA operative. Right? He wasn't actually at the dinner. Right? He he did not attend. And I started the lawsuits and against Halper and the newspapers about this, including New York Times, including Wall Street Journal, including Washington Post. And one of the things I said, it was they it was knowing you know, it was a known provable lie because the person who was the source for the fake story wasn't actually at the dinner. Yes. And Halper admitted that he wasn't at the dinner. The story that Rosenberg and and Goldman and and specifically the story that they wrote is that I approached Flynn that I sat next to him, all the journalists were dead. Right? And I left dinner together. Mhmm. Right. And that the concerns were strong enough that it caused another person, says the article, I. E. Them trying to imply, to report the incident to The US authorities. And the point was, well, the caliper wasn't at the dinner, why didn't he report it himself given that he was there by informants? Speaker 1: Mhmm. Speaker 0: So my Ibi was investigating that because I've I've posted about that. Right? Like, the whole story, not just it's a lie, but it's a provable lie. And he got in touch with Rosenberg, and Rosenberg said to him, what could we have done? This was an orders of Brennan. And then I have some emails with Tayyip proving that as well. And the second thing Rosenberg said that if I don't shut up, like, their target is Flynn, not me. So they kind of don't mean to cause me harm. And I'm like, well, but you have. Right? But they said they're really interested in Flynn, not me. However, if I'm going to continue attacking them because I've been quite, you know, vocal exposing them as operatives, they will start, you know, exposing me in the media and and find things about my past and and and and and post it or print it. And I, of course, know there's nothing about my past. I said, carry on. I said, plea you know, be my guest because, of course, I knew that this is not true. But this is to give you an idea that they use intimidation. They use threats. And okay, I'm lucky in a sense that, you know, I just knew that what the truth is. Right? And I just kept telling it and repeating it, and that's what you said in the very beginning. Speaker 1: I need to remind everybody, this is a journalist. This is supposedly a journalist calling you. This is not somebody from the intelligence services. This is not somebody representing themselves as law enforcement. This is a journalist who's calling you up and threatening you. Speaker 0: And and, Lara, this is why what you said, you know, what you said in the beginning where we talked about how it was financed. And as you rightly point out that, you know, it was financed by Fusion GPS and Hillary campaign. Yeah. But also remember that both, Fusion GPS and Hillary campaign were also financed by George Soros and Reid Hoffman. Of course. And then when he released the election, right, they came back worthless person. Financed the huge you know, twenty seventeen efforts against president, Trump as well because Fusion GPS and Christopher still got rehired by Ritz Hoffman and by George Soros. So this is I'm telling you what it's like to be on the receiving end, right, as a mom, as a regular girl, living in Cambridge, you know, just in a complete shock. But we, of course, now know that this is a serious serious Soros run Hoffman operation in in involving the intelligence community, and that has been continuing for the last nine years, more ten years. And I was just at the beginning. You know? I was just the first target, but they kept repeating it exactly in the same way. And that is why it's so important to deal with the media, not to treat them as journalists. Right? They're not journalists. They're actually paid operatives. So for example, one of the things that David Nunes and Kash Patel have discovered early on is when they were trying to find out about who financed the steel dossier, they came across the bank records of Fusion GPS with their with their bank. Yeah. And Fusion GPS then admitted that it was actually Hillary campaign that financed steel dossier, but what they managed to keep redacted and is still unredacted is their payments to the journalists. So Fusion GPS received money from Hillary and from Soros, and then they paid journalists. We don't know the names because they're redacted, but, you know, you can guess that there were probably people like Tom Hamburger from Washington Post, people like Ken D'Lanion. These people were through this dark money of which, you know, Fusion GPS is one of those groups, they were being financed. And also vice versa, the newspapers were actually paying Fusion GPS for stories as well. So this is not some thing that happened because, I don't know, people hated Flynn, for example. Right? This is a highly sophisticated serious operation because president Trump then, candidate Trump represented the risk to these globalist elites. And they organized, you know, this color revolution that you and I post about so much that's happening in front of our eyes today. Well, it started back back in 1516. Even when he was still a candidate, they were doing exactly the same things. They just we didn't know then. And that's where, you know, the Darwin investigation found this Hillary plan, and it's going to be in the news quite a bit, where they needed to stop Trump. The globalist needed to stop Trump Mhmm. From coming into power. They organized, devised a plan, and Jake Sullivan was involved in this plan, whose wife is Maggie Goodlander, is one of the people in the media. Speaker 1: So to Maggie Goodlander, just just to remind people, she's one of the seditious six, right, who's who made that video, that is really an affront. I mean, it's really ordering every military person to defy the UCMJ, the United States Military Code of and to commit a crime. That's what they're doing, and they're committing a crime and doing it. Yeah. But Speaker 0: but all of that exactly. But but this is why this story is so important that, you know, what happened to me is horrible and personally devastating. But the reason why everyone needs to study this story is because these are exactly the same people, and they did exactly the same things. It's just that they're escalating and escalating because they know that perhaps maybe maybe there's going to be justice finally because, obviously, there's, you know, currently in the news that there might be, you know, trials in Florida, and these people are panicking. That's why they're behaving this way. But they started it. You know, they just could not allow these globalist elites. They all united. You know, they they this it was this horrible combination of, you know, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, anti Trump Republicans like John McCain. You had the media. You had the SIG project there. Speaker 1: Midas Touch. All these organizations that are just created to basically to assassinate Trump on a daily basis. Speaker 0: Right. Right. And they're just continuing, but they're just escalating what they've been doing for the last decade. So so that's why the story never ended. This this color revolution It's Speaker 1: also why the conspiracy never ended. I mean, talk about statute of limitations, but all of these actions, if you look if, you know, at a RICO case, right, which looks at all the different elements of this, this is unrestricted warfare. And if you look at all those different elements, none of this has ended. First of all, legally for a conspiracy to end, the conspirators have to acknowledge the conspiracy. That has not happened. The conspirators have to end the conspiracy. Like, they actually have to stop participating in that. That also hasn't happened. And so you have an ongoing seditious conspiracy. There this is treason and sedition is ongoing because none of the people that were originally involved have been held to account. They're all still free to operate, and they're still operating as we keep saying. Exactly. Speaker 0: Because, you know, when we talk about Soros, when we talk about Hoffmann, that's not some, you know, abstract thing. Right? It's every newspaper article, including the ones you read about me and General Flynn, including the ones you read about president Trump from it it it's not it wasn't organic. Right? Somebody paid for it. Somebody ordered it. Unbelievable. And what has happened is, you know, I've, helped the Durham investigation for for for four years. And the key document they found, and this is going to be the document that that you will hear a lot more about as as these trials get underway, was the Hillary Clinton plan. So what was happening is Hillary was in a lot of trouble. She was gonna lose the election. And Soros and Hoffman, people like that, they've invested a lot of money into her election campaign. But she had these two problems which is health. Remember, she famously collapsed on 09:11 Oh, you know, few weeks just before the election. Speaker 1: That famous shot of her going to the car where her legs buckle and she's held up by the Speaker 0: Right. By the security. Yeah. And then the second big problem she had was the the email scandal because she was subpoenaed by the Benghazi committee and she deleted 33,000 emails Yeah. Which which was usually private server. Speaker 1: Let's be clear. She she broke the law by destroying classified information. She broke the law by having classified and unclassified information on one server when their by law is supposed to be kept different, separate. She broke the law by having classified information on private server that wasn't protected. She broke the law by putting that in the hands of her law firm who were not legally allowed to hold and store that. I mean, I could go on and on and on and they lied about it, which was another crime. They covered it up. That was another crime. And they and they lied about how information is classified. They said, this was over classified and, you know, it was subsequently declassified and that was only pertaining to state department information because information is classified at source in the United States government. So she had information from the, you know, people like the NSA and the National Reconnaissance Organization and the National Geospatial Agency and the DIA and the CA. They're the issuing authority of that information. They're the only ones who have the authority to declassify it outside of the president of The United States Of America who with the act of just speaking can be an act of classification. But what they did, they she was caught and they lied and they lied and they lied and the operatives in the media that helped them lie about Russia collusion and create that false narrative helped them lie about the email scandal. And so she was she knew she was in real trouble, and how was she gonna get out of it? That's what this document you're talking about Speaker 0: Well, that's right. That's right. And that's why why is it, you know, for numerous reasons, of course, they went after general Flynn, But specifically, how does he relate to this Hillary plan? Well, he was the first person because, of course, remember, he was he was working for the Obama administration. He gave evidence at the Benghazi committee and other other things saying that obviously, not only it was completely mishandled, so that that the whole thing was was horrible, but also he was very vocal in saying that she's not fit to be president of United States and she should be resigning. And he was saying that from very early on and she should, you know, withdraw her candidacy because she was using this unsecured private server Mhmm. And that on this unsec this this server could have ended up in a in in in the hands of anyone, whether it's friend, whether it's foe, and and, you know, it could be around China, Russia, whatever. It doesn't matter. The whole point was that she was not to be trusted with nation's secrets. Correct. Example, at the moment, as you know, John Bolton, national security former national security adviser, is probably facing a very long time in jail Yeah. But exactly the same thing. And well deserved. He stored classified information at home. Mhmm. And then he was hacked by Iran. Right? Mhmm. Speaker 1: And Speaker 0: that's what Jennifer Flynn was talking about. And he said that if it's found out that she stored classified information on her server and that information ended up in the wrong hands, not only it's the end of her presidential campaign, she's gonna go to prison. Oh, not just her, but, of course, Obama was on these emails. A bunch of other people were in these emails. Speaker 1: Oh, Speaker 0: yes. And so Soros was very concerned, and we have the emails. Right? Like, that his investments they remember, he backed her once already against Obama, and she lost Obama. And he was gonna lose the money again. Right? And this time, at least Obama, they managed to domesticate. But, obviously, president Trump, they they couldn't take the risk. And, of course, general Flynn now changed sides and went to join, you know, candidate Donald Trump. And they and the email scandal was representing this fundamental threat because although they were telling people during the election campaign summer twenty sixteen that Hillary is going to win, they actually had internal poll, polls, which was showing that the email scandal and the, health scandal were costing her. Right? She she was that's right. It was a fifty fifty chance. And so what happened is we're going back to now Cambridge University is in July 2016. A group gathered at Cambridge University. So the whole university is on holidays, but you probably because you've been covering it for a while that all these operatives, they use conferences, they use university as a cover. Speaker 1: They use academia itself as a cover. Right? Think tanks and, you know, all of these institutes and policy institutes and universities, they're all a cover for their operations. Speaker 0: Yes. Because they need to meet all these senior people, m I six, whatever, all these operatives, they need to meet up, and they have to pretend, oh, we're just at the conference together. Right? Because they can't, like, say, oh, I'm gonna go and, you know, devise a conspiracy against, you you know They can't tell the truth. The Right? So they they need to cover Speaker 1: breaking the law. They can't tell the Speaker 0: truth. Right. Right. They can't say that. So that's why they they create this conf that that's why, you know, there's always a conference. And so what happens is that Amadie Lauberght, who was a proxy for Hillary Clinton, she was at came in in Cambridge. This is early July twenty sixteen, And so was Stefan Halper. So he was masquerading as a Cambridge professor, but he was the CIA and FBI officer. And so was Richard Zielov, you know, the head of MI six, and crucially, the boss of Christopher Steele. Right? Speaker 1: The author of Christopher Steele's Yeah. Christopher Steele, the the British spy that they held up as this, you know, great person who actually worked for sir Richard Dyilov when he was head of MI six. Speaker 0: And and so remember that Halper and Steele, they were working together because they were both on the FBI books of as informants, and they were corroborating each other's lies. That was the purpose then of them. Because remember that the Dossier was written by Hillary's people, people like Stropp Talbot, is the president of Brookings. He was Bill Clinton's roommate at college. And he's the man from Jake Sullivan. Speaker 1: And Nelly Obersore's wife. Right? Speaker 0: Right. Exactly. And Weiner and all these people, they wrote the dossier the so called dossier then to Trump manufactured dirt. But they even the corrupt FBI could not have accepted from them because it's obvious it's from Hillary. Right? It has the name of Hillary in the chronology. Speaker 1: It's too obvious. Speaker 0: So they rancid they rancid the name of that's why they called it the the FBI called it the Crown material as if it came from the UK government to make it look like like it's it's legit. It's apolitical. Right? Why would British government be interested in, you know, interfering in US politics? Right? But in fact, it was it was all written by Hillary people, and they just put Christopher Still's name on it. So all these people gathered in in in this conference together in July, as I said, in in Cambridge, and they invited Carter Page, who was a minor, you know, Trump campaign adviser, who was in fact the CAE officer. Remember we keep talking about how they're blowing up their own people. Speaker 1: Yeah. That was another setup. Another person who was setup. Speaker 0: Another patriot. Moscow on an operation. Mhmm. And then on the way back from Moscow, he went to Cambridge. He went to this conference with Martin Olbradt, with Richard Ziela, with Stefan Halper, possibly Christopher Still was there. And what they discussed, they discussed what be this is what Ivan covered, and and it later became known as as the Hillary plan. And another person who was in the audience was Alexander Downer. You would remember, he was also Oh, famously Speaker 1: met with George Papandopoulos, who was also a a sort of relatively minor campaign person for Trump. And, they met at a bar and of course he leaked information to him. Right? And then that was how Papadopoulos was set up. So Carter Page, who went to Annapolis, the Naval Academy, who was a Russia specialist who spoke Russian, who actually helped the FBI prosecute Russian spies, who was on the payroll of the CIA. He was the other Svetlana Lykova who was set up, and then the other one who was set up with George Papadopoulos. These were all the links, right, that was supposed to prove Speaker 0: That's right. Speaker 1: That Trump was a Russian asset. Speaker 0: To Hub, but the only difference between me and them is people like Carter Page couldn't speak up and wouldn't speak up because they felt because, obviously, he felt he was doing things for the country and the information was classified. So he kept defending the CAE's role in this. Right? I, on the other hand, because I have zero I don't work for any intelligence agency. I'm not controlled by anyone. That's why they made a huge mistake. That's why they couldn't shut me up because they could shut up somebody like Harte Page. Right? Because they would remind him that this this is classified and, know, you you can't reveal, for example, his relationship with Halper. Right? So they were very close. But they couldn't shut me up. And this is what was their huge mistake. Right? Because the rest of the people they set up were their own operatives, and I was the only one who wasn't. Speaker 1: Who was the mouse guy? Speaker 0: They miscalculated. Interesting. But going back to this conference, so here they are together on July in Cambridge. So we have Alexander Downer. We have Richard Dieloff. We have Stefan Halper. We have Stephen Schrag. Stephen Stephen Schrag is a friend of Carter Page. Madeline Allbright, she's friends with all these people. And they're plotting because and and we have a speech, a copy of Stefan Halper's speech. So remember Stefan Halper is this FBI and former CA operative Mhmm. Who was also at Cambridge with Richard d l love and Christopher Andrew. And by the way, just to very quickly explain, the reason why they need to run from the outside of The United States is because legally, the CIA cannot operate, of course, against US citizens. Speaker 1: That's right. They're a title specialty organization, and their job is intelligence abroad. And only the National Resources Division has the the the legal authority to operate on US soil under specific conditions, but it also, Svetlana, puts them outside the reach of congress and oversight. Part of the reason they have these foreigners involved is that congress can't subpoena Christopher Steele, can they? Speaker 0: That's right. That's right. And so and and also remember that, you know, as you said, it's it puts them out of reach of the oversight, and they also had to this is why they were always obsessed about this date, you know, this July 31 date when the Crossfire Hurricane operation, investigation, as they call it, the investigation officially started because and only FBI has the right to investigate a political complaint. Right? If we take it seriously as if there was a risk to national security, it's the FBI's job. So they couldn't allow any information to come out that there was anything that happened before July 31. Right? Speaker 1: Yes. Because they had to they had to make out, like, oh, this was such a serious thing. It came to the FBI and these these, you know, hardworking, right, sincere FBI agents were so, were forced, compelled by the strength of the evidence to open an investigation, which we know Right. Speaker 0: None of which should reaction. Exactly. It had to be a reaction of something Russians have done or Russians hacked the DNC. And then there was this, report from, this Australian ambassador, and then this happened and this happened. So no matter what we did, maybe we all reacted here or or there, but it had to be a reaction to something Russians have done and the Trump campaign have done. So what they couldn't allow, again, why, you know, my evidence was so dangerous, is anything to happen before that. Right? Because then it's not a reaction. They then themselves are setting the fire. Right? And then they go, oh my god, there's a fire, and get in the cars and say, Speaker 1: oh, you need to make fire. Sure And then when the fire breaks out, they say, oh, no. There's a fire. Speaker 0: Right. And this is very interesting when we come back to the Hillary plan, that's exactly the language that's used in in his documents. So so so we have a script from the speech that Stefan Halford gave, and he said that the US election is you know, this is in the presence of Martin Albright, who in a few days is going to introduce Hillary Clinton at her coronation. And he said that the election is too close to call, And Sure. Donald Trump is enjoying huge amounts of media coverage, and that Hillary campaign has its deficits. Deficit meaning the, you know, the health issue and, of course, the email issue. And if the media is gonna continue focus focusing, you know, positive in on on Donald Trump, then he will win the election. Halper says that in in presence of dear love, all bright, downer, all these people on July 11. Right? So this is this is, what is it, July, August, September, October. So it's, like, five months before the election. But Yeah. She's gonna lose the election unless we do something, unless the media turns negatively on on on on on on on candidate Trump. And that is becomes the origin of the Hillary plan. Because what happens next, hold the thought about July 11, only two weeks later, we Yeah. We now have an email of correspondence between Soros' sidekick and Julie Smith. So Julie Smith was her mentor was Madeline Albright. So Julie Smith was Hillary Clinton foreign policy adviser, and she worked for and with Martin Albright and Jake Sullivan. Right? Wow. And Jake Sullivan was covering up for Hillary Clinton, you know, through the Benghazi, through the email Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Speaker 0: Scandal, through every possible scandal. He was her her her foremost aide. Right? And he was hoping that Hillary wins the election and, you know, he gave interviews about that, that he was gonna be the next president. Right? Because obviously, she was old and sick and he he wanted to become the next president. Right? Like, he's like a CIA deep state candidate. So what was happening is that Judith Smith writes an email to Soros' people because Soros is concerned. And they said, don't worry. We're gonna fix it. Hillary has approved the plan. This is July 26. Hillary approved the plan to distract from her email scandal. And the way we're going to do it is first, we're going to demonize Donald Trump in the media and link him to Putin. Right? That's the first step. And the second part of the plan is and then the FBI will pour the oil on the fire, I e, by starting the investigation. Now she those boards were written to source by the Hillary people on July 26. Brennan briefs Obama and, Comey on so Obama, sorry, on this the next day. Then after Brennan's meeting with Obama, on the July 28, he meets with Comey and Clapper. And on July 31, Comey opens Crossfire Hurricane. So Crossfire Hurricane is the implementation of the Hillary Clinton plan to link Donald Trump to Russia to distract from her email scandal. And it's based they opened this investigation based on the word of Alexander Downer, who was present at this Cambridge meeting. This is how sophisticated the operation is, but they wrote it all down. And he goes to see a Clinton person in London, not not the FBI, but Clinton person in London, on July 26 on the same day that Hillary Clinton approves and signs off on this plan with Soros. They they approve the plan and the financing of the plan. July 26, Downer goes to the US embassy in London. Who's running The US Embassy in London in the religious community? Gina Haspel. Wow. Gina Haspel works from Brannan. And then it's out of the London station. Now you have Gina Haspel, Alexander Downer, and the Hillary state department person in the same place on July 26 on the day that they approved the plan. Speaker 1: And then And and let's just remind people that Gina Haspel later became the the director of the CIA And told Speaker 0: by Pompeo. Speaker 1: Mhmm. And told by Pompeo. Speaker 0: Right. And and they were running these operations against Donald Trump from at least July 2016, probably even earlier. Right? Speaker 1: So let's go through that list again for people. So at present at the embassy in London, Regina Haspel, who later becomes head of the CIA, and Alexander Downer, the former ambassador to Australia. Speaker 0: Yeah. So he's an Australian ambassador, Speaker 1: but I mean, not to Australia. The Australian ambassador to Speaker 0: The US. Yeah. So he's I forget the word. It's it's it's it's another word for ambassador. But anyway, so he's Australian ambassador, but he was also deputy prime minister. And what he's what's very important is he has access to Five Eyes intelligence. Right? So he's an intelligence guy. Right? Both as deputy prime minister and also as as ambassador. He he he he can read the Five Eyes intelligence, but he Speaker 1: not record explain. Five Eyes intelligence is very significant. For people who don't know, it goes back to the second world war with The US and its allies, were Australia, New Zealand, the The UK, and Canada, along with The United States. These five nations have an agreement to share intelligence at a special level. And this is absolutely critical to everything that happened to Trump because they used all of these listening stations and all of these the physical infrastructure that was set up for Five Eyes intelligence was turned against the American people and against Donald Trump. And it played the Five Eyes intelligence sharing played a critical role in this entire operation. Speaker 0: That's right. But another very interesting point you previously made, you know how they were trying to avoid congressional oversight? Mhmm. So although all these people, these foreigners, so this is England, Australia, and other countries who participated in these operations against Donald Trump, they're from Five Eyes countries, and they know the proper formal channels of if their concerns were genuine, they were supposed to go for the formal channels. So for example, Downer was not supposed to go and see Elizabeth Dibble, who was a state department friend of Hillary Clinton. He was supposed to go and report it through the correct, channels in Australia, and then Australians were supposed to report it to the US government. Right? But they didn't do it that way. Why didn't they do it this way? Is to avoid this is what Devin Nunes found, is that to avoid congressional oversight. Because had there been a formal five I referral, then five i's referral, he would get a document which would have a five I stamp on it. So also it's the people who were involved in the five eyes, but they did everything through the back channels. You know how we were talking about all
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Please release the documents still hidden. I warned about the Durham Annex; priority: unredacted Brennan notes of the Aug 3, 2016 meeting with Obama and Comey on the Hillary plan; Obama’s full response and Comey’s response. All items listed are unclassified. Prioritized: 1) Brennan/Obama/Comey notes; 2) Crossfire Hurricane Inspection Report; 3) 14 missing Durham Appendix pages; 4) interviews; 5) Durham referrals; 6) NYT/WSJ with Fusion GPS and Hillary campaign emails; 7) Dearlove/Halper/Steele emails; 8) Flynn staff interviews.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Dear Director @DNIGabbard please can you release these documents, someone is still hiding them. I was right about the importance of the Durham Annex, so trust me to know what I am talking about. We must have these documents, the most important one, Brennan notes of briefing Obama and Comey on the Hillary Plan is 9 years old. Obama's full response re Hillary plan is still redacted. Comey's response is completely redacted, I believe they are talking about opening FBI cases on Trump advisors based on what Comey told IG Horowitz. The documents I list are all unclassified or declassified so they cant do their sources and methods bs excuses. I arranged them by priority, we MUST have the first lot now. Please please. -unredacted notes of the Brennan meeting with Obama and Comey, Aug 3, 2016 -Inspection Division Report criticizing the FBI for Crossfire Hurricane -14 missing pages of the Durham Appendix -Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, Stefan Halper, Alexander Downer, Jake Sullivan, Podesta, Mook et al. interviews with Durham -Durham referrals incl. to the Department of Defense etc -Emails between the New York Times, Washington Post, etc and Fusion GPS, and Fusion GPS with Hillary Campaign -Emails/communications between head of British Intelligence Richard Dearlove, US intelligence and Halper and Steele -Interviews of members of staff who accompanied Gen Flynn on the trip to England and witness the op against him

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Documents still to be released please @DNIGabbard They are not classified/declassified: -unredacted notes of the Brennan meeting with Obama and Comey, Aug 3, 2016 -Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, Stefan Halper, Alexander Downer, Jake Sullivan, Podesta, Mook et al. interviews with Durham -Inspection Division Report criticizing the FBI for Crossfire Hurricane -14 missing pages of the Durham Appendix -Emails between the New York Times, Washington Post, etc and Fusion GPS, and Fusion GPS with Hillary Campaign -Emails/communications between head of British Intelligence Richard Dearlove, US intelligence and Halper and Steele -Interviews of members of staff who accompanied Gen Flynn on the trip to England and witness the op against him? -Durham referrals incl. to the Department of Defense etc

Saved - January 3, 2026 at 1:40 AM
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I say the Mar-a-Lago Raid was illegal and that the FBI knowingly carried it out to seize Crossfire Hurricane documents implicating Obama, Hillary, the CIA and FBI. I’ve long claimed Alan Kohler organized the raid for Wray and Monaco, with Avril Haines, Steele and Halper, to hide the evidence. The aim, I insist, was to cover up anti-Trump ops and retroactively reclassify the documents.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Mike @mrddmia: A good article pointing out that the Mar-a-Lago Raid was illegal. But it's a lot worse. The FBI knowingly did the illegal Raid to snatch Crossfire Hurricane documents which directly implicate Obama, Hillary, the CIA and the FBI. I have been saying for years, based on my own evidence, that the FBI Assistant Director for Counter-Intelligence Alan Kohler organized the Raid. It has now been confirmed (see attached). Kohler did the Raid on the orders of Christopher Wray and Lisa Monaco, an Obama crony who effectively ran the Biden DOJ with Maggie Goodlander, Jake Sullivan's wife (a top Hillary advisor). Also involved was Avril Haines, Brennan's former Deputy Director at the CIA, who was made Director of National Intelligence under Biden. The purpose of the Raid was to seize and hide the Crossfire Hurricane documents showing that the CIA, the FBI, and British intelligence coordinated anti-Trump ops out of England. President Trump declassified the documents, but Wray's FBI, Monaco (Obama), and Haines (Brennan) had them retroactively reclassified before the Raid, and then falsely accused President Trump of holding and distributing classified documents endangering spies and operations. In fact, the documents endangered the Deep State, showing that Stefan Halper and Christopher Steele, on Obama's orders, falsified "intelligence" about Donald Trump and his team to stop him from becoming President and then in an attempt to overthrow him. Alan Kohler, the man who organized the Raid, was previously the head of FBI London Station, working with Gina Haspel, the head of the CIA London Station. Kohler ran Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper, the two "Confidential Human Sources" on the Crossfire Hurricane anti-Trump FBI op. Steele worked for Richard Dearlove, former head of MI6 (British CIA), and Dearlove is friends and business partners with Halper, a CIA operative who worked for Brennan and Haspel, as well as for the FBI. Halper is MITCH in Comey's notes, the guy in charge of the Hillary Clinton Plan to tie Donald Trump to Russian intelligence. Obama ordered this operation, and both Halper and Steele were paid a lot of money by the Obama administration. The CIA, the FBI, and British intelligence implemented it. That's why Kohler, Monaco, and Haines had to remove and hide the evidence.

@mrddmia - 🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸

My latest piece in @FoxNews MIKE DAVIS: FBI knew Mar-a-Lago raid was illegal, but Biden DOJ made them do it https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mike-davis-fbi-knew-mar-a-lago-raid-illegal-biden-doj-made-them-do

MIKE DAVIS: FBI knew Mar-a-Lago raid was illegal, but Biden DOJ made them do it President Trump Mar-a-Lago FBI raid lacked probable cause according to Senate documents. FBI agents allegedly did not believe sufficient grounds existed for the search. foxnews.com
Saved - January 3, 2026 at 1:36 AM
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I present notes from Brennan's Aug 3, 2016 meeting with Obama and Comey as key evidence of a Grand Conspiracy, showing Hillary's plan to link Trump's campaign to Russian intelligence. Yet Comey's response re Trump-Russia collusion remains redacted.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

DECLASSIFY NOW please! These notes from John Brennan's meeting with Obama and Comey on Aug 3, 2016, discussing Hillary's plan to tie Trump's campaign to Russian intelligence, are the key evidence of the Grand Conspiracy. Yet Comey's response to Obama about collaboration between Trump Campaign and Russia is STILL redacted. @DNIGabbard @FBIDirectorKash @DAGToddBlanche @AGPamBondi

Saved - January 2, 2026 at 6:12 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

The same people who did Russiagate raided Mar-a-Lago to seize and hide evidence of their crimes, which they secretly re-classified, and then falsely accused President Trump of storing and distributing classified documents.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

🚨🚨🚨It is confirmed that Alan Kohler, Comey's FBI LEGAT (Representative) in London, England, and later Chris Wray's Assistant Director for Counter-Intelligence, was in charge of the Mar-a-Lago Raid of President Trump's home and personally briefed AG Garland and Lisa Monaco. Kohler ran Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper, two key FBI Confidential Human Sources on Crossfire Hurricane. Steele was a British MI6 asset and Halper worked for the CIA, MI6 and FBI. The Raid was to protect Halper, the FBI, the CIA, and MI6. That's why seized the Halper and Steele papers.

Saved - January 2, 2026 at 5:54 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Andy McCabe sent Peter Strzok to London to meet with his British counterpart to kick off Crossfire Hurricane. https://t.co/Y378u7ex8m

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Dearlove, the boss of Christopher Steele, promoted the false idea that Russia had "leverage" over President Trump. Steele met with Dearlove in December 2016, just weeks after President Trump won the election, and the two plotted. This was at the time that the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) that found that President Trump was installed by Putin was being fabricated by Brennan, Comey and Clapper on Obama's orders. The ICA was based on the fabricated Steele Dossier.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Russiagate co-conspirators are still plotting away. Richard Dearlove, former head of MI6, and Andrew McCabe, former FBI Deputy Director and Acting Director, appear in a joint podcast titled “Ex-Spy Chiefs on What to Watch for in 2026.” They are using the podcast as a pretext to

Saved - January 2, 2026 at 5:49 AM
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Russiagate co-conspirators are still plotting away. I note Dearlove and McCabe appear on a joint podcast, using it as a pretext to communicate during the Grand Conspiracy investigation. The Florida grand jury convenes in 11 days. Dearlove leads Steele, and is a friend and partner of Halper. Steele and Halper were the FBI CHS on Crossfire Hurricane, the investigation of the Trump campaign.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Russiagate co-conspirators are still plotting away. Richard Dearlove, former head of MI6, and Andrew McCabe, former FBI Deputy Director and Acting Director, appear in a joint podcast titled “Ex-Spy Chiefs on What to Watch for in 2026.” They are using the podcast as a pretext to communicate with each other in the background during the Grand Conspiracy investigation. The Florida grand jury convenes in 11 days. Dearlove is the boss of Christopher Steele (author of the dossier), and a friend and business partner of CIA operative Stefan Halper. Steele and Halper were the two FBI Confidential Human Sources on the Crossfire Hurricane “investigation” of the Trump campaign, run by Comey and McCabe.

Video Transcript AI Summary
Andrew McCabe, former deputy director of the FBI and acting director, discusses on the One Decision podcast plans to examine the matrix of threats that are globally problematic, with a focus on challenges facing their countries and a comparative look from a European perspective and a United States perspective.
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Speaker 0: Andrew McCabe, former deputy director of the FBI and acting director for a period. Well, to the One Decision podcast and I thought that today what we could do is try to examine the matrix of threats that are problematic globally, but particularly in our countries and maybe look at a bit from a European perspective and from a United States perspective.
Saved - January 2, 2026 at 4:56 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Two weeks before Madeline Albright announced at the DNC convention on July 26, 2016, that Russia interfered to help Donald Trump, Albright was in England with Dearlove, Halper, Downer and other international intelligence operatives, hatching what we now know as the Hillary Plan. https://t.co/Hjgs87YHw0

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Same day as Hillary approved the plan to tie Donald Trump to Russian intel, Madeline Albright set the tone for the DNC convention saying that Russia is interfering in the election to help Trump. Two weeks earlier, Albright was in England with Halper (CIA, FBI), Dearlove (British intel), Downer (Australia) where Halper voiced the plan.

Saved - December 29, 2025 at 6:54 AM
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I report that three months after Biden’s DOJ under Monaco and Wray’s FBI retroactively reclassified Crossfire Hurricane documents Trump had declassified, and the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago on Aug 8, 2022. Kohler organized the raid and briefed Monaco and Garland the next day. Kohler, former London head, worked with Halper and Steele. Kohler warned Monaco of a national security danger. In truth, Monaco and Kohler allegedly covered for Halper, a CIA spy paid by Obama to oppose Trump.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Source Document Four: Three months after Biden’s DOJ, effectively headed by Obama’s minion Lisa Monaco, and Wray’s FBI secretly and retroactively reclassified the Crossfire Hurricane documents that President Trump had declassified, the FBI raided the President’s home, Mar-a-Lago, on August 8, 2022. The person who organized the raid, FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Alan Kohler, briefed Monaco and Garland the next day. Kohler was previously based in England as the head of the FBI’s London station, working with Gina Haspel who was then the head of the CIA’s London station. During the early days of Russiagate, Kohler oversaw the “work” of Stef Halper and Christopher Steele. Following the Mar-a-Lago Raid, Kohler briefed Monaco on the “danger to national security”, that the documents President Trump had at Mar-a-Lago represented, and how he “imperilled spies and covert operations. In fact and in truth, Obama’s minion Monaco and Kohler were covering up for Russiagate architect Stefan Halper, John Brennan’s CIA spy who was paid millions by Obama to run ops against President Trump. The specific documents showing that Halper lied about me and President Trump’s National Security Advisor (Source Document Two)—as well as others on the Trump campaign, in conjunction with Christopher Steele—would have blown up the whole Russiagate Hoax against President Trump. https://www.ms.now/news/trump-arrest-classified-documents-probe-maralago-rcna241155

‘If it was anybody else, we’d arrest him tomorrow,' Justice Department aide said of Trump Carol Leonnig's new book reveals that one senior Justice Department official believed they had enough evidence to arrest Donald Trump for holding classified documents at Mar-a-Lago ms.now

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Source Document Three: The Biden FBI/DoJ retroactively and secretly reclassified the previously declassified Crossfire Hurricane documents on May 25, 2022. They were classified for nearly 70 years (until December 31, 2091)—effectively forever—using “harm to national security” as the justification. https://vault.fbi.gov/crossfire-hurricane-part-01/Crossfire%20Hurricane%20Part%2001/view Classification Authority (NSICC): National Security Information Classification Guide. Reason 1.4(c): Under Executive Order 13526, this provision specifies that the classification is due to information involving intelligence activities, sources, methods, or cryptology, the disclosure of which could harm national security. Declassify On: December 31, 2091. This sets a specific date for automatic declassification approximately 69.5 years after the document’s classification in 2022. FOIA Redaction Codes (b6, b7C): These mark withheld portions in released FBI files under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Exemption b6 protects personal privacy in personnel or similar files, while b7C safeguards personal privacy in law enforcement records.

Crossfire Hurricane vault.fbi.gov

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Source Document Two: Crossfire Hurricane documents that President Trump declassified are posted on Just the News website in February 2021. The key document shows that CIA/FBI/British Intelligence Operative Stef Halper lied to the FBI that I had an affair with President Trump's https://t.co/7WQnBV8H0N

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This was during the Durham investigation, so Durham could not use the classified documents or indict. I testified to Durham and assumed indictments would follow, but the documents proving I was set up were raided and vanished. The Crossfire Hurricane informants ran out of London. Halper and Steele lied that I was a Russian spy who had an affair with Trump’s National Security Advisor. Declassified documents show Halper and Steele were paid large sums; Halper worked for Brennan’s CIA and British intel and helped kickstart Russiagate.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

This was in the middle of the Durham investigation, so Durham could not use the classified documents and therefore could not indict. I know this because I was giving evidence to Durham, and my understanding was there were going to be indictments. Then one day, the documents that prove that I was set up, were raided and gone. The Crossfire Hurricane “informers” ran out of London. Stefan Halper and Christopher Steele, lied that I had was a Russian spy who had an affair with President Trump’s National Security Advisor. The documents, finally declassified again by President Trump this year, show that Halper and Steele were paid huge amounts of money, and that Halper worked for Brennan’s CIA and British intelligence and was used by Comey to kickstart Russiagate.

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What they did is they retroactively re-classified the Crossfire Hurricane documents President Trump declassified in his first term. They reclassified in May 2022, three months before the Mar-a-Lago Raid, classifying for National Security reasons until 2091 ie forever. See dates in the top left corner. They then raided President Trump’s home, took the documents that he already declassified but they secretly classified again, and then accused him of possessing and distributing classified documents endangering National Security. Then they charged him under Espionage Act. They are evil.

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@RealSLokhova Question Did they find the Crossfire Hurricane documents when they raided Mar-a-Lago

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Here is Rob Reiner conspiring w. John Brennan and Jim Clapper to overthrow the democratically-elected President Trump as part of the Russiagate Conspiracy. What was Reiner's connection to the CIA? Who financed this op? https://t.co/rHCeXwuXkJ

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Speakers discuss the severity and novelty of threats to the United States’ political system, focusing on Russian interference and the digital domain. - All acknowledge that the country faced a cataclysmic disruption to its political system that is unlike prior experiences. Speaker 2 notes, as a Vietnam veteran, that fundamental institutions were jeopardized then but proved resilient, and expresses hope for a similar outcome now. - Speaker 1 emphasizes two points: (1) Vladimir Putin’s determination to shape political landscapes inside Russia and abroad, and (2) the consequential role of the digital domain, which allowed Russian intelligence to exploit and manipulate more effectively, culminating in the twenty sixteen election. - They note that Russian interference historically involved exploiting elections, but never with such aggression, directness, or multidimensional methods. The Internet and modern technology serve as a huge enabler for influencing opinion and undermining fundamental systems. - There is a discussion of whether this manipulation was unforeseen. Speaker 2 indicates it goes back to the Soviet era with attempts to influence elections, but the magnitude in twenty sixteen was unprecedented. The digital environment provides malefactors with more opportunities to attack and influence. - The panel explains active measures as fabricating or propagating stories (even patently false ones) to advance a narrative, color perceptions, and lend legitimacy to political actors. They note that the Russians focused on specific voter blocks in states like Wisconsin and Michigan, with estimates that 70,000–80,000 votes could have swung the election. - They discuss methods beyond information operations, including collecting information (e.g., DNC and DCCC email breaches) and money-related tactics: money laundering, disguising funding sources for political actions, and potential extortion or blackmail. They stress that collusion is a tool in the Russians’ kit and that they recruit or exploit individuals where openings exist. - Following the money is highlighted as essential across national security domains; FBI financial investigators and intelligence analysts play key roles, and there is confidence that Mueller and others will trace financial pathways to uncover motivations. - The distinction between cyber warfare and conventional warfare is acknowledged: there are no tanks or planes, but the cyber realm constitutes a war for democracy. A robust response is needed to strengthen the cyber environment, including proposals for a congressional independent commission to assess and strategize future protections, involving engineers, technologists, scientists, and private sector input. - They reflect on why the nation did not respond with the immediacy seen after physical attacks (e.g., 9/11). The lack of a physical rubble-like trigger makes cyber threats harder to mobilize a national response. Leadership issues are cited: when the White House diminishes the CIA, FBI, NSA, or intelligence and law enforcement, it undermines efforts to address the threat. - They recount briefings to the president-elect in January, noting high confidence levels in assessments that did not rely on the dossier; the bigger concern is a perceived indifference to the Russian threat and the denigration of security institutions. - They stress the importance of institutional integrity: the press, law enforcement, and intelligence are pillars of democracy, and denigration of these institutions undermines U.S. credibility abroad. They advocate for stronger checks and balances and reiterate their commitment to truthful reporting and protecting the country. - The speakers, experienced and apolitical, emphasize loyalty to the Constitution and the need for decisive leadership and sustained commitment to democratic institutions, despite political challenges. They conclude with a solemn commitment to safeguard the country and its democratic framework.
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Speaker 0: Either person can sit at either place. Either place. Whatever's good for you. Speaker 1: I don't think we either one of us has a good side. Speaker 0: You don't have a good side. It doesn't We're Speaker 2: both bad sides. Speaker 0: Alright. Me too. We're both of the follicly challenged. So thank you for coming. I really appreciate it. And the thing that to me is so frustrating is that this cataclysmic thing happened to our country and people don't seem to understand it, understand the gravity of it. And, you know, you guys were talking about how, you know, it's unusual for people who have been how many years of experience do you have between you would you say? Speaker 1: Jim has several hundred, I think. Speaker 2: Probably eighty or ninety Speaker 0: between the So two of here you are with all that experience. Have you ever seen anything like this happen in this country? I mean, like this kind of attack on our political system? Speaker 2: Well, no. Not not, at least to me, as disturbing as this. I mean, I'm a Vietnam war veteran. I went through all the stresses that in the aftermath of the Vietnam War, but I never, felt, even then that, our fundamental institutions were, jeopardized. In fact, our fundamental institutions proved themselves resilient then, and we actually came out of all that a better country. And, hopefully, we'll have the same experience now. Speaker 1: To me, it underscores two points. One is how determined mister Putin is to shape the political landscape both inside of Russia as well as outside of Russia. Whether it be in Europe or The United States or The Middle East or other places, he seeks ways to manipulate and exploit the environments. But secondly, it really does underscore just how consequential that digital domain is. And as Jim noted, we've seen these things being done by the Russians over the course of many years, but the fact now that this digital environment, this cyber sphere, gives the Russian intelligence security services so much more opportunity to manipulate and to exploit, and they took full advantage of that in the twenty sixteen election. That's why we saw things of much greater concern and intensity than we'd ever seen before, and I think Americans really need to understand just how vulnerable we are to exploitation of the environment by mal malign actors around the globe. Speaker 0: Is it something that we did not see happening that we couldn't foresee? I mean, because, you know, we talked about, you know, nine eleven, nobody you know, the planes hitting a building. It seems like they found a huge seam in the in the the And Russians Speaker 2: and this goes back to the Soviet era. There's a long history of of them interview intervening and influencing elections, theirs and other people's. And there's historical records that, they've attempted to interfere in virtually all of our national elections since the sixties. But never, never this aggressive, direct, or multidimensional. And of course, as John indicated, they're taking advantage of a huge enabler. You know, the Internet and all the technology that that gives you and the ability to influence opinion. A way they've found to attack us is to undermine our fundamental system. Speaker 0: I don't think from my standpoint, I don't think that we in all of the technological revolution that we've seen over the years, I don't think we have fully understood the power of what it could do. I mean we certainly understood spreading information, getting word out, being able to cross boundaries with information, but I don't think we ever thought, I mean I don't know if you hadn't thought, how it could be weaponized to this extent. I mean, was that something that occurred to you or did you see that Speaker 2: as something that happened? Probably not. That's why when this all began to unfold in '15 and '16, And it was kind of insidious as we became more aware of what they were doing. Then I think in the late summer, '16, when you really saw the magnitude of what they were doing. And for me, I've seen a lot of bad stuff in my fifty years in intelligence, but nothing I don't recall anything that gave me viscerally in the pit of my stomach a more uncomfortable, uneasy feeling than when I realized what, the Russians were doing. Speaker 1: Right. The Russians have conducted active measures for many, many years. And in the physical domain, you have certain indicators and signatures that you can forensically then, you know, connect so that you can trace it back then to the ultimate perpetrator or who directed it. But now, just like with terrorists and organized criminals and others, intelligence services can do things in that cyber domain that they can really camouflage and mask their steps. I think we always anticipated that the Russians will continue to try to exploit certain situations but now with this digital environment it's become much more challenging for intelligence, security and law enforcement services to understand exactly who is behind some of these activities that really, make it very challenging for us to understand who is who is actually directing these actions. Speaker 0: You guys were there during when you saw the initial attack and you know, you hear this term all the time, you know, you know, collusion, conspiracy, coordination. I mean, these things are thrown around all over the place. But the idea of active measures that these that the Russians have, you know, trafficked in for forever, what does that look like? I mean, what is what what would like, in a political campaign like this, what does an active measure look like? Speaker 1: Well, think a lot of times what the Russians, well as others do, is to either fabricate a story or to take a story that may be patently false, but yet advances one's narrative and argument and push it out and propagate it and lends legitimacy to it. It's a way to color people's perceptions and impressions of individuals. Speaker 0: I know understand that the Saint Petersburg is pushing out, you know, trolls and bots and getting, you know, messages out and and piggybacking on messages that, you know, the Trump campaign is. Is there any, like, granularity to getting into the these districts in Wisconsin or Michigan or, you know, I mean, they play on that level? Speaker 2: It appears now that it was pretty sophisticated, and they did focus on on certain voter blocks. And, of course, 70 or 80,000 votes in three states would would have would have swung the election. And, you know, the Russians have gone to school on our system, understand it. You know, we've we've had very successful campaigns in this country. President Obama, case in point, where he did this micro analysis on a district by district, precinct by precinct basis. They would understand that Speaker 0: based on just, you know, observing American television or they need some kind of help through a Cambridge Analytica or people on the ground who have been, you know, assets that have been developed over many Speaker 2: question. They could have, but it's very clear that they understood the the dynamic the political dynamics, the political landscape here, and they certainly understood how to use tools to exploit it. Speaker 1: The Russians take full advantage of the openness of our society. They have operated here in The United States for many, many years. So they can have access to experts and others who they try to elicit information from, even those individuals who do not even know that they interacting or supporting the Russians. Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: So we're looking at the different attack vectors. Information, was was one of them in terms of what they were pushing out. Collecting information from the Internet in terms of the email theft that went on with the DCCC, the DNC. But also we knew from experience that the Russians had many different methods of influencing elections in Europe. Getting politicians to accept money, trying to get push money into political parties, maybe camouflaging the source, and extorting and even blackmailing individuals to work with them. We've seen that across the board, there's a lot of publicly available information and stories about that. Speaker 0: To try to understand the the intersection between money laundering, cyber warfare, and influence peddling. I mean, how does all of that work? Speaker 2: Well, to the extent that you can you can hide the money, hide the the disguise sources of funding for political action groups, which may be quite legitimate, they'll use financial instrumentalities to hide that the passage of that, of of those of that funding, to political movements or interest groups. But I I do know that collusion is clearly a tool in the kit bag that the Russians will use. So any way they can co op somebody, recruit them, influence them, even where the party that they're recruiting is unwitting, they'll do it. And I suspect they did so at every opportunity where they saw an opening, they'll exploit it. Speaker 1: But following that financial trail is so quickly important on so many aspects of national security. We do it in the terrorism realm. We do it in the counterintelligence realm. We do it in the proliferation arena as well. And the FBI financial investigators as well as the intelligence community financial analysts, they are tremendous. And that's why I do have confidence that Bob Mueller and others are going to get to the bottom of some of this by tracing the money and see what might have circumvented the normal Speaker 0: procedures Speaker 1: for moving money and was there a motivation, a political motivation behind it either on the giver or the receiver's part? Speaker 0: I mean, listen, we we talk about, you know, our system, our democratic way of life came under attack. I mean, we use those terms, you know, because they attacked an election, But we don't talk about it in terms of war. I mean, you know, it's cyber war and it's a you know, there's no tanks, there's no planes, there's no infantry. I mean, there's none of that. And yet, perhaps Putin thinks of it as because if you say it's been going on for for a long time, which it has been, I probably the czarist days, it is a war. It's a war for wrestling for an ideology, whether or not democracy is gonna survive. He's been trying to undermine it for forever. So in his mind, it is a war. So how do we if how do we respond? Speaker 1: I think we have to strengthen that cyber environment certainly. We learned some very painful lessons because of nineeleven, but as a result of nineeleven, the Congress established a commission, nineeleven Commission, that tried to address those gaps, those shortcomings. I have been a law proponent of having a similar type of commission established by Congress, an independent commission, that can take a look at what we need to do in the future to better protect and safeguard that environment and have the engineers and futurists and technologists and scientists and U. S. Officials and private sector, all of them getting together, something akin to a major, major undertaking to look at it strategically. Trying to strengthen that environment, and it's not just against attempts to interfere in the election, but also, again, criminals and terrorists and pedophiles and others, and I don't think we, as a country, have yet come to terms with what the role of the government is in that environment. Speaker 0: Why do you think that that didn't happen? I mean when the buildings were hit or when the bombs hit Pearl Harbor, we all came together as a country. We knew we would had been attacked in some level. Now I understand this is a much more insidious type of attack that you don't feel right away, but it is an attack at the fabric of democracy. There's no question about it. Why isn't it that we didn't respond the way the way we you know, why wasn't there, you know, George W. Bush standing on the pile of rubble saying, you know, you'll hear from all of us? I mean, democracy was attacked. Speaker 2: Precisely because we didn't have a pile of rubble. Things in the physical domain that you can see, feel, and touch, destroyed buildings, people killed, wounded, injured, that has a much more apparent, immediate, and indelible impact on people than something in the cyber domain, which is a bit more ethereal. And it's hard to, you know, it doesn't have physical attributes, so it's harder to get your arms around. Speaker 0: Well, for instance, you know, after nine eleven, George W. Bush was reluctant initially to have a nine eleven commission because, obviously, from a political standpoint, you know, he might be blamed for not, you know, being more proactive or whatever. But ultimately, he agreed to do it because the country's security and the protection of our country was more important than trumped any kind of, you know, personal political gain that he had, but I don't see that now. I I I don't see that, and that's what scares me. Speaker 1: You know, it really comes down, I think, to leadership. As long as the occupant of the Oval Office continues to refute the unanimous assessment of CIA, FBI, NSA about what they did and continues to ignore, I think, the the real challenges to our system of government by what the Russians and others can do. It it undercuts any effort to try to deal with this issue comprehensively, strategically, and thoughtfully. And until that leadership that comes out of the White House is really going to say, this is critically important for our future as a country and as a democracy, it's gonna be a really tough road. Speaker 0: And why doesn't he? Why why isn't that? I mean, I I don't I don't don't I mean, I understand, you know, his feeling like maybe it's gonna delegitimize his election and, you know, I don't know. I we don't know where any of these in these these investigations are gonna go, but we're talking about our country. Yeah. Our democracy is at stake here. Speaker 2: When we briefed John and I and and Speaker 0: You guys were there Speaker 2: Briefed when Speaker 0: this happened? Speaker 2: The president-elect at the time January 6. I I think he viewed what we presented to him, which had very high confidence levels in what we presented him, which by the way, a point I'll make, had nothing to do with the dossier. We did not draw on the dossier. The dossier, the infamous dossier, was not a part of our intelligence community assessment. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 2: What we did present, we had very, very high, confidence level in. And I believe, the the his first reaction to it was that this caused a question about the legitimacy of his election, which wasn't the intent at all. And, yeah, that's I get it. That's important. But the bigger issue here and what is bothersome to me is a singular indifference to the threat posed by Russia. Speaker 0: To me, in my the way I see it, it goes beyond, you know, not pushing back. There's been an active, you know, effort on the administration's part to denigrate the intelligence community, to denigrate law enforcement and and the justice department. And to me, that's the most disturbing because we're talking about pillar it's one thing to say fake news, fake news, and the media is, you know, destroyed or they tries to destroy the credibility of the media, but he's trying to destroy the credibility of our security system. Speaker 2: Well, I have said consistently that in the case of the intelligence community, I believe the intelligence community as an institution will continue to convey truth to power. And whether the power accepts that truth or not, well that's another issue. Now I don't know how long that can be sustained, I do worry about that, but I believe the fundamental instincts of the community are to do the right thing. I do worry about denigration of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The premier law enforcement organization on the planet, which is composed of 35,000 plus people, they're humans. Do they make mistakes? Sure. Does the bureau make mistakes as an institution? Yes. But overall, when you think about what the bureau does for this country day in and day out, rank and file patriotic dedicated professionals all over this country and all over the world keeping this nation safe and secure, and I wish we could keep that in in in perspective. Speaker 1: Yeah. The comments coming out of mister Trump's mouth have been very dispiriting to the professionals at CIA, FBI, NSA, and others, who really dedicate their lives with great sacrifice and certainly very dispiriting to their families that make great sacrifices on behalf of their loved ones, as well as it sends, I think, a very bad message to the people of The United States, which is that these are the institutions that were established to protect our democracy, our security, our safety. It also sends a very bad signal to the world that if the person who holds the title of president denigrates, disparages the work and the professionalism and the integrity of the FBI and CIA and others, how then is the rest of the world going to look at those institutions? How are the CIA and FBI going to be able to work with counterparts around the globe on issues related to life and death matters, whether it be terrorism or proliferation or whatever, or interference in democratic systems? So the power of those words that have come out, I think, cannot be sort of understated. And I'm hoping we're going to be able to get through this very, very, I think, very sad chapter of our history. But I have great confidence that the professionals that Jim and I work with, that the organizations, are trying to do their very best to protect this country because that's why they do what they do. They love this country and irrespective of the denigration, irrespective of the lack of honesty and integrity of the people at the highest levels of government, the professionals and intelligence and law enforcement will do their work. Speaker 0: One of the great resources that we've been given is the wisdom of the founding fathers to create a constitution upon which we can build this wonderful, now two hundred and forty one year experiment that we've had. And my fear is that those pillars of that institution are being torn away, the press, law enforcement, intelligence, and we're seeing no checks and balances coming from the Congress. That's my fear and the question I always have is, is our constitution created strong enough to withstand this kind of assault? Speaker 2: I hope and pray that constitution, has stood us in in in great stead for many, many years, will sustain us through this bad period. But in the end, it's how we as a nation and how the nation's leadership, and I mean by that, both the Congress and the administration, the executive branch, how well they abide by it. Speaker 1: The President of The United States needs to speak with the greatest amount of precision, honesty, and integrity because he or she speaks to the world, and he or she serves as a role model every moment of every day. Speaker 0: People who have held very high positions in the intelligence community, as you guys have obviously, don't normally come out and speak out the way you have been speaking out. What what is it that reason you come out, why do you do that? Speaker 2: For me, this has has been very difficult. I've toiled in the trenches of intelligence for every president since then, including John F. Kennedy. My dad was an army officer. I've been a political pointee in both Republican and Democratic administrations. So I've always been instinctively apolitical. The oath of office you take though is not to a person. You don't pledge loyalty to a person. You pledge loyalty to the constitution. And because our institutions that underpin this country are are under assault, both from external sources, Russia, and internal sources, that I need to speak. Speaker 1: Both Jim and I and other senior intelligence officers love this country, and we have worked long and hard to do what we could in our own little individual ways to contribute to this country's safety and security. I never thought I would witness what I've been seeing over the past year as far as what is happening to our government, the dishonesty, the lack of integrity, the lack of ethics. We spent our lives looking at foreign governments and countries and analyzing them and seeing how corruption and incompetence and ineptness and lack of ethics undermined the ability of countries to thrive. And I never thought I would see some of those similar types of traits and attributes here.
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Two months before the Mar-a-Lago raid, the FBI retroactively reclassified Crossfire Hurricane documents that Trump declassified in his last week. They hid them, not expecting Trump to return. Jack Smith charged Trump under the Espionage Act for keeping and distributing classified documents. A stamp shows “Classified until 2091” dated May 25, 2022; the same document on the left isn’t classified. It describes Somma meeting with Halper who lied about Flynn and me to start Crossfire Hurricane (RAZOR).

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🚨Two months before the Mar-a-Lago raid, Wray's FBI retroactively and secretly re-classified Crossfire Hurricane documents that President Trump DECLASSIFIED in the last week in his first term. Then they hid the documents, they thought forever, they didn't expect President Trump to come back. Then Jack Smith charged President Trump under Espionage Act, accusing him of keeping and distributing classified documents, endangering national security. Look at the stamp on the document on the right, top left corner. Classified until 2091 (effectively forever) on May 25, 2022, two months before the Raid. On the left it’s exactly the same document not classified. This document describes FBI agent Steven Somma meeting with FBI informer and CIA operative Stefan Halper who lied that General Flynn and I had an affair and that I was a Russian spy. This was done to start the Crossfire Hurricane investigation of Donald Trump's advisor General Flynn (RAZOR).

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I believe there should be an investigation into Lisa Monaco and others regarding their involvement in the Mar-a-Lago raid. I find it hard to believe she wasn't aware of what was happening, especially since Attorney General Garland seemed uninformed initially. The raid, which was highly publicized, resulted in no significant findings, and it took Garland three days to address the situation publicly. This raises questions about the motives and knowledge of those involved in orchestrating the raid.

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Devin Nunes: Investigate Lisa Monaco and others for their role in the Mar-o-Lago Raid and the Grand Conspiracy "People like Lisa Monaco, who was the Deputy Attorney General. I find it hard to believe that she was not behind and had knowledge about what happened at the raid of Mar-a-Lago, because I believe that Garland, although maybe he knew about it after the fact, but if you remember, he didn't seem to know much, and they didn't find what they were looking for, because it took him three days after this magnificent raid, with all the cameras there, that clearly were tipped off about this Mar-a-Lago raid happening on President Trump. Miraculously, they didn't find anything, and it took Garland three days before he came out and made a statement."

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Devin says he's expecting a full investigation and notes transparency from the intelligence agencies under Trump. He argues the 'Russia hoax' was designed to get Trump and that officials were worried about Hillary Clinton emails coming public in 2016. He asks how Jack Smith was appointed in 2022, who decided the Mar-a-Lago raid, and what documents they were seeking. He asserts there was a conspiracy to weaponize US intelligence against the Republican, citing 'five investigations tied to the Russia hoax and Ukraine impeachment hoax,' accusing officials of lying and misleading Congress. He mentions 'August 2016 discussions in the Obama White House' and the 'August 2022 Mar-a-Lago raid,' Monaco’s role, and the '40-page Russia influence report' concluding Russia didn't think Trump would win. On Gaza, he says no one trusts Hamas, but sees an opportunity with Trump's diplomacy. He closes as chairman of President Trump's advisory intelligence committee.
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Speaker 0: Russia hoax some seven, eight years ago. Devin, it's great to have you this morning. Welcome back. Speaker 1: Thank you. Great to be with you, Maria. Speaker 0: I wanna get your expectation of more charges to come against Jim Comey and more of his colleagues who worked on the Russia collusion story pushed it through across the world. What are you expecting? Speaker 1: Look. I'm expecting a full investigation. If you look at the transparency that's been brought by the intelligence agencies under Trump, unprecedented level of transparency where we're now finally getting out documents that the American people had never seen. So I think you're beginning to see real clear clairvoyance on what happened between 2016 all the way to the Mar a Lago raid. And I think that's where culminating with the Mar a Lago raid is where I think I really still have a lot of questions of documents that really need to get out there. I think an investigation needs to kinda start there and go back because we we know for sure what happened in 2016 that Comey was well aware of is that this was all the whole Russia hoax was all designed to get Trump because they were worried about the her emails coming public back in 2016 before the election. So Yeah. I think we have real clairvoyance there, Maria. You've covered on your show for many, many years. Where we still are missing information is, know, how was Jack Smith appointed to go after Trump in '22? Who decided to raid Mar A Lago? What documents were they looking for? These are all the questions that still remain to be answered, and I think where the investigators need to start from there and and go back. Speaker 0: What is different about grand conspiracy? What does grand conspiracy tell us if in fact they are able to put the puzzle together that, yes, this has been a conspiracy since 2015? Speaker 1: Well, I think you just have to ask yourself the common sense question. Is was it a conspiracy or not? And clearly, unless you've been hiding under a rock somewhere, this has been a conspiracy to weaponize The US intelligence agencies against the most popular Republican since Ronald Reagan, and that is president Trump. He became very popular in 02/2016, was a popular president, remains popular, was reelected president. It was all designed to target and take down one of your political enemies so much so that they actually raided his home, his private a private home of a former president at that time. I mean, these are not things that allow a republic to be in a in a situation where it can withstand the long run if you have intelligence agencies that are effectively working with the fake news, working with nonprofits, all to benefit one political party. And that's what you've had. So it it was a conspiracy. It is a conspiracy. And so whether or not you can make those charges, I'm not a lawyer, never been a prosecutor, but I've done a lot of these investigations. And to me, really, what matters is the court of public opinion. What matters are the statutes and law, and I would from my vantage point, it's pretty clear that there was conspiracy on a number of fronts. Most importantly, I think lying and misleading. I think that's a keyword misleading congress and and other investigations. As you know, there were, I don't know, some five different investigations that occurred over the last seven years that relate as it relates the Russia hoax, Ukraine impeachment hoax, and all the other hoaxes that did what targeted president Trump and his family. Speaker 0: And and I talked with you throughout this ten year period over and over again, and I remember many years ago, you would say, we've asked them for these documents. We've asked them for that document, And they sat on it and waited and did not give you the documents as chairman of the intelligence committee or ranking member as the intelligence committee. You you demanded these these documents. Tell us how specifically Jim Comey and others may have misled you and the congress. Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I can say this is that those days are over. Right? Now the president's made me chair of his intelligence board. We are working to help declassify where we can all the information that you now are are seeing come out. Where I think you where where it's pretty clear is is let's talk about two interesting dates, Maria. One was in August 2016 in the Obama White House with Biden and a bunch of other cast of characters there, including Comey, including Brennan, where where they are told by Brennan that, hey. There's a hoax going on. That's my word. You know, that basically, they're looking the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC are looking to frame president Trump or that time candidate Trump with this Clinton email scandal. If and when these emails come out, they wanted to to make it look like it was the Trump campaign working with Putin. They knew that in August '16. Now how is it possible that all of these cast of characters that were interviewed by multiple, not only the house house intelligence committee, but also in the senate and Horowitz and and, you know, all the way to Durham. They just had amnesia, just forgot about this. They they all those years went by, and they don't remember that this was a cover up for the Hillary Clinton email campaign. Nonsense. We know that's not true. They had to have known it. So what's the other important date? The other important date is in August, ironically, almost six years to the day, August 2022, where they raid Mar A Lago. Many of the same people were involved in that, not Comey because he had been fired, but others who had been in the the first Obama term all the way through were then put into the into the Biden term. I mean, people like Lisa Monaco, who was the deputy attorney general. I find it hard to believe that she didn't that she was not behind and had knowledge about what happened at the rate of Mar A Lago because I believe that Garland, although maybe he knew about it after the fact, but if you remember, he didn't seem to know much, and they didn't find what they were looking for because it took him three days after this magnificent raid with all the cameras there that clearly were tipped off about this Mar A Lago raid happening on president Trump. Miraculously, they didn't find anything, and it took Garland three days before he came out and made a statement. Speaker 0: Wow. And Lisa Monaco got a big job now. She's the president of global affairs at Microsoft, which I reported first. Look. I've got the majority staff report right here on the intelligence community assessment of the Russia influence campaign targeting the twenty sixteen election. You believe that was one of the things they were looking for when they raided Mar A Lago, but it wasn't there. Speaker 1: Yeah. That's right. Because that was supposed to be declassified. We asked president Trump to declassify that in 02/2020. We were told that it was declassified. We thought that that information was gonna be at the archives like all the information should. But then when we asked the archives about it and other people asked the archives for it, it wasn't there. So it's just and that document's very damaging. It's a 40 page report that house Republicans worked on for a long time, not only, you know, my committee and and now, you know, now the current chairman, Rick Crawford, was able to get that information out. It's a very damning report that showed what? That Russia didn't think that Trump was gonna win, which I think we all know. Once again, just common sense in 16. Why would the Russians be helping someone that they didn't think was gonna win? Speaker 0: Right. A great point. Devin, real quick on Gaza. Do you trust Hamas to actually keep its word here real quick? Speaker 1: No. I don't think anybody trusts Hamas, but I think president Trump bringing Egypt, Turkey, The Gulf States altogether. This is an opportunity that president is giving for The Middle East. Let's hope that they take it. But I think we're time is clicking, and we'll see what happens. But I would not wanna, be on the wrong side of president Trump. He's proven that he will take action. Speaker 0: Alright. We will leave it there. Devin, always a pleasure to talk with you. You are the chairman of president Trump's advisory intelligence committee. Thank you, sir.
Saved - August 14, 2025 at 4:32 PM
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I forgot to mention that my star guest, Mike Schmidt from the NYT, is actually my husband and facing serious issues for leaking classified info related to Comey. My other guest, Andrew Weissmann, is accused of faking the Mueller report, both tied to the Grand Conspiracy investigation.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Nicole Wallace forgets to mention that her star guest, NYT's Mike Schmidt, is actually her husband who is in deep trouble for publishing leaks of classified information from that sanctimonious git Comey as part of the Grand Conspiracy. Her other guest, Andrew Weissmann faked the Mueller report, also part of the Grand Conspiracy investigation.

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They they they all see the world the same way. And what we see them doing is moving the ball around the court and teeing each other up differently, you know, to to get them to some sort of criminal investigation. You have the intelligence community taking the fruits of what it does or whatever classified stuff that it has, declassifying it, sending referrals to the justice department, and putting the department in a place to go forward and say, okay. We are looking at this and using the specter of criminality to examine Trump's foes, the original foes like Obama, Brennan, and Comey. I mean, Andrew Weisman, I don't know what moves the men in the manosphere, but it looks so freaking lame and weak to be so obsessed with Obama.
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Speaker 0: They they they all see the world the same way. And what we see them doing is moving the ball around the court and teeing each other up differently, you know, to to get them to some sort of criminal investigation. You have the intelligence community taking the fruits of what it does or whatever classified stuff that it has, declassifying it, sending referrals to the justice department, and putting the department in a place to go forward and say, okay. We are looking at this and using the specter of criminality to examine Trump's foes, the original foes like Obama, Brennan, and Comey. I mean, Andrew Weisman, I don't know what moves the men in the manosphere, but it looks so freaking lame and weak to be so obsessed with Obama.
Saved - August 10, 2025 at 3:54 PM
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I believe they re-classified a document that Pres Trump declassified to cover their crimes, raided his home to hide those documents until 2091, and then accused him of mishandling classified information. This document is crucial as it reveals the FBI's investigation into senior Trump advisors based on falsehoods.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

So they 1) re-classified the document Pres Trump declassified to show evidence of their crimes, 2) raided his house to steal and hide those documents until 2091, 3) accused him of holding/passing classified documents. The document is the most important one according to reporters because it shows they opened FBI counter-intelligence investigation of the most senior Trump advisors based on what they knew were lies, and they continued to use the informer anyway to lie about others.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

Look at the stamp on the document on the left. Top left corner. Biden’s FBI reclassified it until 2091 on May 25, 2022, about 2 months before the Raid. On the right it’s exactly the same document not classified. The FBI meeting with Halper to start the investigation on Gen Flynn. https://t.co/8OYdiGjZJB

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

No, people don’t realise this. I didn’t originally realise it myself! I later found the document about me—where FBI “informer” Halper deliberately gave false testimony that Gen Flynn and I had an affair and that I am a Russian spy, on the FBI vault completely blanked out, https://t.co/Wx1GBaEHpJ

Saved - August 8, 2025 at 4:16 AM
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Those urging us to "move on" from the Russia Hoax miss the ongoing pattern of attacks. It started with the Mueller investigation, then the false claims about the Biden laptop, and continued with the FBI's Arctic Frost investigation and the Mar-Lago raid aimed at seizing evidence of their wrongdoing. The same individuals have been orchestrating these efforts for a decade. It's time for accountability.

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

That’s why those lecturing for us to “move on” from the Russia Hoax are wrong. Russia Hoax was followed by the Mueller Witch Hunt, followed by “Biden Laptop is Russian disinformation” op etc followed by “Arctic Frost” FBI investigation of Pres Trump and the biggest of them all, the Mar-Lago raid to steal Crossfire Hurricane Documents-evidence of their crimes—and falsely accuse and investigate Pres Trump of passing classified documents to foreign intelligence. Same people, doing same things, for a decade. Lock them up already!

@listen_2learn - The Researcher

Behold the pompous ass known as James Comey on September 30, 2024, talking about many things including Trump possibly being sentenced to prison and how they made examples out of the J6ers to deter behavior. That is exactly why everyone that participated in Russiagate and the ensuing lawfare MUST be held accountable.

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James Comey believes a second Trump presidency would be "very bad" and delay the Republican Party's return to a healthy state. He asserts the U.S. will always have a two-party system and that both parties must uphold the rule of law and peaceful transitions of power. Comey, a former Republican, says no one committed to these principles can support Trump. He predicts Trump, if elected again, would be "unconstrained" and surrounded by enablers, potentially leading to extreme actions. While less concerned about a large-scale January 6 repeat due to prosecutions, Comey worries about individual acts of violence inspired by MAGA rhetoric. Comey acknowledges the "bizarre" reality of a convicted felon running for president and believes Trump's legal troubles have paradoxically strengthened his base due to the psychology of fraud victims. He sees a "significant likelihood" of Trump being jailed, potentially starting with a sentence in Manhattan on September 18, barring a pardon.
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Speaker 0: In terms of the trajectory of US politics, you've made a very clear statement there already. You do think this actually is a completely pivotal election. Is that because you imagine things turning a certain way if Donald Trump was to regain presidency? Speaker 1: I think if Donald Trump became president again, it would be very bad for all kinds of reasons in the short run. It would also delay the the cleansing that we need to get to a place where we have two healthy political parties in The United States. I think with his defeat, which again, I'm optimistic about, the Republican Party will begin what will be a long process of getting to a healthier place and actually representing ideas and proposals and becoming a healthy antagonist for the Democratic Party. Speaker 0: Talk about that two horse race, that healthy two party system as you just described it. We have had, obviously, independents running in this election, RFK Jr. Being one of them, and he actually stopped being an independent in order to endorse Trump. Do you think it will always be a two party system? Speaker 1: It will. Ours is set up with the way we have a winner take all system to drive people to organize their coalitions into two parties. It'll always be that way. We'll have a variety of third party candidates as this year, you'll have some wing nuts running as third party candidates, but in the main, it'll always be two parties. And so we need them both to be active and healthy. And it's okay that they fight about important policy issues, but they have to be committed to the things that really aren't susceptible to partisan division. The rule of law, peaceful transition of power. Those are the things that we're supposed to have as our bedrock, which is why any Republican ought to be voting for the Democrat this time. Because there's only one candidate running for election in The United States in November who's committed to a peaceful transition of power and the rule of law, the bedrock of our society. Speaker 0: And hey look, Mr. Comey, I think it behooves us at this point to remind viewers watching this that you were actually a lifelong Republican. Listening to you saying that, some people might be confused otherwise, but you were up until the point of Donald Trump. Is that correct? Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a registered Republican. And I served in the George W. Bush administration as US attorney and then as the number two at the Justice Department. President Obama then asked me to be the FBI director because that's a role that's traditionally outside of politics. But but really nobody committed to the things I just mentioned, to the rule of law and to our constitution, can be a supporter of Donald Trump. And frankly, don't see how they can be a rep call themselves a Republican these days. Speaker 0: So the grand old party, the GOP, has gone in your mind. Is there a way for it to come in any way or is the repub are the Republicans now the party of Trump and whoever succeeds him afterwards? Speaker 1: Well, it will have to change because they can't win elections. They can't they can't get above the high watermark of 47% of the American voters supporting them. And so that's not sustainable in the long run to be a minority party. So circumstances will force them to change, to get to a healthier place where they can attract the support of a majority of Americans. So that's why in the long run, we'll be okay. We will get to that place, but getting there will be much faster after Donald Trump loses in November. Speaker 0: Well, say that was some conviction, but at the moment, whilst we're speaking, Harris is only polling just a few points ahead nationwide, and those swing states are still looking like she could lose out to Trump. And, obviously, those swing states, some say, that is where the election is gonna be made. If Trump wins and you've already touched upon this, you're talking there about law and order and, what it means for the country, but what would another Trump presidency look like in your eyes? Speaker 1: I think it would be a bit of a nightmare in a way. I mean, there's a reason that so many members of his own cabinet have not only not endorsed him, but have said this guy should be nowhere near the Oval Office. Donald Trump as president again will be unconstrained in lots of ways, including by not having people around him. He didn't have all stars the first time. This time he'll have the very bottom of the American barrel and there are bottom barrel dwellers who would want jobs there. But what the first group did was actually thwart him in a lot of ways, ignore him, cajole him, play him along. The next group around him will not do that. And so all the nutty things, the ideas of shooting protesters in the legs or ordering the prosecution of individuals, those kinds of things that are antithetical to our system, There won't be anybody around Donald Trump to tell him forget that or to distract him with a shiny object and then take the memo from his desk. And so you're looking at an administration where he will be able to do the crazy things that so frightened people the first time. Speaker 0: Do you have concerns about another January 6 type event? Probably not replicated, heaven forbid. But in terms of that type of social media kind of fuel or those types of organizations, organizing and coming together like that again? Speaker 1: I don't. I'm quite worried about individual violence and the epidemic of threats that comes from MAGA world directed at public officials at the misguided people acting on those threats and individual acts of violence, are very serious taking place. I'm not worried about the large scale January 6 type violence because a message has been sent over the last four years with the prosecution of more than a thousand people for January 6. The message is your life will be ruined if you engage in that kind of conduct. And the people who would be tempted to are not jihadis looking to lay down their lives for the orange god king. These are people with families, with jobs, with homes, with assets. They don't wanna light their lives on fire for Donald Trump. And so that message has been sent. And it's the reason there aren't crowds at any of his court appearances. He's unable to summon that kind of violence because a really important and positive message of deterrence has been sent. Speaker 0: Now you brought up there his court appearances, of course, multiple ongoing court cases, some civil, some criminal. He is a convicted felon. How do you feel as a former FBI director watching somebody who is a convicted person running for presidency? Speaker 1: If you put it in a book proposal for a crime thriller, your publisher would reject it as fanciful. It's not come on. Come on. Someone running for president who's a convicted felon. Well, that's the world in which we live. So it's it's bizarre. It feels like a dream, but it's a reality. It's gonna be a close election when one of the candidates lied about the last election, incited his followers to sack The United States Capitol during the transfer of power, and subsequently been convicted of multiple felonies. But that's the weird place in which America finds itself. And as I said, I am optimistic that it is mourning in America and we're gonna put that behind us. But it's very, very important for people who care about things like the rule of law to get out there and participate in this election. Speaker 0: And, you know, in previous months when I've been covering it as court cases, I've been interviewing people from the Republican Party and Trump supporters who've talked, of course, about what they call lawfare, which is this idea that the justice system is being weaponized to prevent him from running for president or to put him behind bars. And there was original discussion about that galvanizing his base, making his support more strong. Do you think that theory still holds? Speaker 1: Yes. And it's at the heart of his famous line about I could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose supporters. And the reason for that is just sort of the nature of fraud victims is I've done cases where the victims of a fraudster came to his sentencing after he had admitted his guilt to speak on his behalf, because it's very, very hard for people to turn away, to admit what they'd have to admit about themselves when they turn away from a candidate. And if January 6 didn't cause Trump supporters to turn, I don't know what would turn the core group. Human beings just can't take the kind of pain that requires the admission about yourself and how you were fooled and a fool. So it doesn't surprise me that his legal troubles have bound a lot of people more tightly to him. That's just the way humans work. Speaker 0: Will we see him behind bars at any point? Speaker 1: I think there's a real possibility of that. I think there's actually a possibility he's gonna get a jail sentence on September 18 in Manhattan. And when he would serve that and how that will work exactly, they'll have to sort out. But if convicted of the federal offenses, he's gonna get a jail sentence unless President Biden pardons him or future President Harris pardons him. So yes, I think there's a significant likelihood that he will end up in jail.
Saved - August 2, 2025 at 1:00 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

The Mar-o-Lago Raid was both defensive and offensive Defensive move was for the Deep State actors to hide the evidence of their crimes So the FBI seized the Crossfire Hurricane documents and reclassified them L: Trump-declassified doc R: same doc re-classified by Biden post-raid https://t.co/bg1jQMBjcK

Saved - July 24, 2025 at 9:10 AM

@RealSLokhova - Svetlana Lokhova

The planning and execution of Brennan’s anti-Trump ops took place at Cambridge University, England. The word University and the country, UK with capital London was classified for 9 years until Pres Trump released the docs this year. https://t.co/bhypjmho81

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