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I saw a segment on MSNBC where they discussed Trump's comments about South African asylees, labeling them as descendants of "white supremacy" and likening their situation to the old Confederacy. Richard Stengel argued that there’s no injustice for South African Whites, suggesting they are viewed by some as victims in a modern replacement theory narrative.
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BREAKING: MSNBC says Trump's asylee South Africans are "white supremacy" descendants and compares them to the "old Confederacy." Guest Richard Stengel insists "there's no injustice" to South African Whites. "The Afrikaners have become the darling of these right-wing white supremacists around the world... it's like the old Confederacy. They're held up as these White Christians who are being dispossessed of their land. It's like, this is modern replacement theory."
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The discussion centers on Trump's policy shift, halting refugee admission for those fleeing war and famine while seemingly favoring white South African immigrants. One speaker asserts that Afrikaners, descendants of apartheid architects, are wrongly portrayed by right-wing movements as dispossessed white Christians, despite owning 78% of farmland while comprising only 7% of the population. Trump's claim of genocide against them is called a lie.
Another speaker argues that the Trump administration's actions are driven by a white nationalist agenda and great replacement theory, influencing immigration policies and voting rights. The speaker emphasizes the need to recognize and name this agenda to avoid complicity.
A final point is made about the difficulty Democrats face in countering Trump's actions, which are seen as interconnected manifestations of his desire for authoritarian control.
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Speaker 0: Trump has virtually halted refugee admission in America for people fleeing war and famine in places like Sudan and the Democratic Republic Of Congo. Back with Rick, Mark, and Eddie. Rick Stenkel.
Speaker 1: Yes. It's so deeply and morally wrongheaded and repulsive. These are the descendants of the people who created the most diabolical system of white supremacy in in human history, apartheid. They're not directly responsible for it, but it was a system that actually moved black people off of the arable land. So they inherited the land that the black people had to give up.
It was called forced removal. It was something called a Bantustan policy where they moved black people out of the cities and farmlands into these remote areas of with non arable land. I mean, it was just one of the most worst processes ever. But what has happened in this strange bizarre world we're living in is that the Afrikaners have become the darling of these right wing white supremacist movements around the world. That it's like it's like the lost cause for them.
It's like the old confederacy. They're held up as these white Christians who are being dispossessed of their land. It's like this is a modern replacement theory in a in a country where, by the way, white people make up 7% of the population and own 78% of the farmland. So it's actually there's no injustice here. As you've mentioned, it's it's taking places away from refugees who are really being crushed by authoritarian governments and military governments for for these folks who have never had anything happen to them.
And Trump amazingly called it a genocide, one of the worst lies I've ever heard him say. There's just been a small handful of farmers that have been killed over the past ten years. No land has actually been expropriated. So it's it's just a forest and a sham and a moral ugliness.
Speaker 0: What what happens now that he's taken this step?
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I mean, it's like the it's like it's like a Batman movie or something where all the bad guys are get collected under under one roof. I mean, like, who else do you now go go and find other racists who have, you know, repressed people and give them refugee status here? It's just I don't know where it goes from here, but I mean, you even said it. It's like a headline from The Onion.
I don't even know how to get more extreme than this.
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's important for us to understand that the Trump administration is a lot of things, but one thing it certainly is, is a white nationalist project. And oftentimes, we don't wanna describe it as such. I'm not reducing it to it because there's greed, there's graft, there's all sorts of things happening around it, but we need to understand the way in which great replacement theory is driving this. There's a sense in which immigration policy is all about demographic shifts. There's a sense around the assault on voting rights and civil rights, all about who will have the who will have the decision making power to determine who will run the country.
And here, this idea that the republic must remain a white nation is evidenced in this move, which is so explicit that it cannot be denied. And so when we don't describe it for what it is, we become, in an ironic way, complicit in what they're doing. It's a white nationalist agenda, it seems to me.
Speaker 0: You know what I'm gonna ask you? Where are the democratic voices offering a different message to the world about who America is today, right now, as this is happening.
Speaker 3: Look. I think you showed Chris Murphy. I think he's one of the people speaking out. And I think that Democrats are speaking out. I think the problem is that just in the time that we've been here, we have talked about Donald Trump accepting a $400,000,000 aircraft from a royal family.
We have talked about this instance of white nationalism, which I completely agree. I mean, if Donald Trump just didn't want immigrants, it would you'd you'd have all of the terribleness we have. But it actually turns out he does want some immigrants. He wants the white Christians from South Africa to be immigrants to this country. We have we you began, you know, when we first sat down talking about the ration the rationing of pencils.
Right? A world in which the 11 year old girl has a quota on the number of pencils she can have. All of these are of a part. They are all of Donald Trump who wants to be a strong man. He wants to be a dictator.
He wants to be able to dictate how he flies, how he lives, who he associates with. He likes associating. I think he likes the idea he got a plane from a royal family. I don't think he would have taken the plane if it had come from like Sweden or Switzerland. I think he liked the idea that it came from a regime in The Middle East that is run by a royal family.
And against that backdrop, you have Democrats trying to fight each of these fires when really what it is is just one big blaze. And I think we need to understand that there is, as Eddie said, a through line that connects all of these things together.
Speaker 0: Thank you guys for connecting all of these things together and for being here with me, Rick, Mark
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I just learned that a far-left instructor at Washington University, Patrick Mahoney, has been relieved of all teaching duties after footage surfaced showing him assaulting an Indian-American student wearing a MAGA hat, which led to police involvement.
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JUST IN: Far-left Washington University instructor gets "relieved of all teaching responsibilities" after arrest footage leaks. Patrick Mahoney was seen on camera beating up an Indian-American student in a MAGA hat prior to his visit by police.
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Patrick recounts an altercation that began when he took a "Make America Great" hat from a person on the street. He admits to grabbing the hat and throwing it, stating he didn't hit or body check the person. According to Patrick, the other individual then "came at" him, initiating physical contact. Patrick says his friend Gerald witnessed this and intervened. Patrick admits to hitting the person once in the jaw before walking away.
Patrick claims he didn't intend to start a fight, only to make a statement about the hat. He denies that anyone in his group tripped the other person or touched his food. He says Gerald intervened only after the other person initiated physical contact. Patrick is informed he is being arrested and charged with assault. He is taken to a holding facility.
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Speaker 0: You're Patrick. I'm Patrick. Nice to meet you. You're not fucking with me. Right?
Like, you said you I don't know how else the fish was worth it. Andre. You said Andre. Saint Andre. Yeah.
So what what's the deal, man? So what what happened up on the hill tonight? Okay. So I walked down. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Right?
Speaker 1: Was he there?
Speaker 0: He was there. Right?
Speaker 1: Let me talk with you about it. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Okay. So I walked down. I see old boy walking around. Right?
He's got I've seen this guy fucking on campus before. Okay. I know he's, like, fucking, like, right wing dude. Okay. He's got a fucking, like, make America great kind of hat.
Okay. Right? Pardon my French? Like, I'm not gonna actually take your hat off. But no.
Don't touch it. Okay. Sure. Probably that's probably not good. No.
It's not. But for the thing, I, like, grabbed his hat, threw it, and I said, like, go get it. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm like, you know, you're fucking wearing that hat. You're fucking you want it to fucking you want you want someone to fucking look at it.
Right? Didn't I didn't fucking hit him. Didn't fucking, you know, like, check body check him, anything like that. Took the hat, threw it. Right?
I was like, that's gonna be end of it. Fucking he's gonna pick up his hat. He's been gone. Right? Do my thing.
I threw it. And I, like, heard him say something, turned around, and old boy, like, fucking came at me. Fucking I don't know to what extent he hit me or where he body checked me. I don't know what he did. Right?
He can corroborate. Right? But, like, he came at me. Right? This is the first time where, like, I touched his hat full.
I I admit to touching his hat. Right? I didn't hit him. Right? Like, I didn't do anything to him.
As soon as I turn around, he hit me. Right? How did he hit you? I I I honestly, like, cannot recall exactly how it happened. It was either a body check or like a grab you sorry.
Yeah. You're you're doing a lot, man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna, like, back up from you.
Thank you. I don't know how to explain it with you without, like, doing it, you know, like, to my boy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like and so I'm like, okay.
He hit me. Right? And immediately, he isn't seeing like what's going on. Right? He just sees him hit me.
Yeah. Right? So this stuff happens so fast like he just sees hit him hit me. Right? I see like him, praise and protect me.
Right? Like, oh, this guy's attacking you. I'm gonna get you. At the basically, at the same second, like, as soon as he attacks me, I'm reacting. I'm grabbing him.
I I can't say, like, how exactly I reacted to him, but I can't say, like, I grabbed him. Right? We take him down the ground. Right? I give him a fucking shot, right, to be like, hey.
Don't fuck with me. Right? Where'd you hit him? I think in I think in the jaw. Yeah.
Like so I'm like, alright. He's done. I didn't hit him after that. Get get him the hit. I'm not about to fuck this guy up.
Like, I'm not gonna fucking stomp on him or anything like that. Like, he's fucking he's done. He he and he made it, like from what I recall, like, he made it very clear, like, he's not fighting anymore. Like, he's done. Right?
Okay. Cool. Fucking pick up my glasses, put them on, fucking walk away, fucking we're done. Right? He wanted to fight.
He fucking got what was coming to him. We're done. We're gonna walk away. We're not gonna fucking pursue it anymore. Right?
We walked away to Emporium. Right? We went there with a girlfriend of his. Right? And then we fucking moved on to fucking here.
Right? I get this call. I'm I'm literally thinking people are fucking with me. Right? I'm like, well, if it is the fucking police, like, I'd rather deal with them tonight than fucking deal with them fucking two weeks from now or some bullshit like that.
Right? I don't think I did fucking something illegal. Right? Like I unless taking a guy's hat is illegal. Right?
Like I'm not the one like I didn't I didn't wanna start a fight with this guy. Right? I wanted to be like, oh, you you have a hat? You fucking wanna fucking make a statement about it? Okay.
I'm fucking tossing it. Fucking you can go pick it up. Right? And go about your day and then fucking, you know, you got what you wanted out of that. Right?
Old boy fucking came at me first. Right? In terms of, like, physically, like, trying to hit me. Right? My understanding of that is, like, that's him starting a fight with me.
Right? I'm gonna finish it to the extent that like I'm gonna show him like you're done, but I'm not gonna fucking stomp on this guy or fucking, you know, put him in the fucking hospital or anything like that. I mean So so I was told one of your buddies, possibly him that well, I was told that you were with a few a few people. Like, tripped him? No.
Nobody tripped anybody. Yeah. Like, for here's the thing that happened. It's like, I'm telling you straight up. Because there's a lot of people around.
Yeah. There's a lot of people around. I'm telling you straight up, both of And there's video cameras. And there's video cameras. We're gonna tell you the truth.
This is out and, like, if there was tripping going on, like, that was not intentional at all. I'm I'm telling you right now, full disclosure, I did not intend to trip this guy. I completely thought and I think he did too. Right? Completely.
Like, because I didn't talk to him like, gonna fuck this guy up or anything like that. Right? He was acting as like from my understanding, I I was actually, you know, like being like, okay. He's coming. He's protecting me like, wow.
You're fine. You're fine. My boy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
He's protecting me because this guy's he he I don't even think he was looking when this happened. I don't even think he saw me grab the hat. I think he just saw this guy attack me and was like Where are the other people that are with you? They were like I think they were behind us. I think.
I do not know what they were doing, but they have they're not from here. Like, they don't know, like, what's going on. Right? Like, my understanding is, like, when this all happened they were like, what the fuck? You know, that was my understanding.
Right? So my understanding is that like he doesn't see what's going on. The only thing he sees is like old boy like basically attacking basically. And I'm like okay, well we'll deal with this. We dealt with it.
Right? We didn't we didn't we didn't say like, do you wanna fight us? Or anything like that. I didn't fucking hit old boy. You know what I'm saying?
Took his hat, threw it. That's the only thing I did. Right? I didn't I didn't when he was walking by go or anything like that. To my understanding No.
I didn't No. I didn't Yeah. I I wasn't told that you tripped him. I was told one of your friends tripped him. No.
Listen. Like, I was the one if you wanna fucking ding anybody tonight, if if if taking someone's hat is a ding enough offense in terms of like taking somebody to jail or something like that, it's me. Okay? I don't think taking someone's correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think taking someone's hat and throwing it like is assault.
Right? It's unwanted touching. It's unwanted touching. I don't know what that is. Right?
I did that. Right? He did not. Right? Nobody in our group did.
But thought you said both of you guys hit him. He only intervened after he attacked me. It's after old boy. Right? That's the only thing that happened.
Right? I mean, not gonna touch you, but I'm not gonna I'm away from you. Right? But this is me. Do do do do.
See the hat? I mean, I saw the hat. Go get it. Right? And then I think he either grabbed me or like said something and I turned around and fucking that's when he comes at me.
Right? I don't know like to what extent he like give me a hint or something, but he came at me. Right? He got my hands. He his hands are on me.
Right? He's not letting me go away. Right? Or at least in the two seconds that this happened. Right?
At this point, Gerald sees him on me. Right? That's her friend. Yeah. My friend.
Grabs grabs him. Right? Takes him. I grab him too. We're taking him the ground because he wants to he wants to put his hands on me.
Right? He puts his hands on me. Oh, okay. Right? We're taking the ground.
Right? I guess. I give him a hit to be like, yo, don't fuck with us anymore. Right? Like, we're done.
As soon as he as soon as I give him a hit, he's done. He's not moving any like, I mean, he's moving, but he's not dead or anything like that. But, like, he's not, like, getting back up and trying to fight us or whatever. And at that point, I don't think we're not trying to have a fist fight in it. Was there was there any food involved?
Food? Like, did somebody have some food might have had food, but I never touched his food at all. Okay. What happened to his food? I have no idea at all.
The only thing I touched is his hand. That's the only thing. Right? There's there's food up in the road up there. I mean, like, maybe, like, he was headed in his hand.
He tried to, like, attack me and then, like, it got spilled. But, like, I didn't, like when he was coming like, when he was walking down the street, I didn't, like, see his food and, like, slap his food at me. No. I wasn't saying that. I was just Okay.
Yeah. Like, I mean, like Why would he be in the road? Because that's where like okay. If I can explain things to you. Right?
He comes to me. Right? Like, throw the hat. Hat goes pretty much in the road, I think. It's like basically in the sidewalk.
Right? So then, this happens. We go on the road. Right? I have no idea if he let go of the food.
I I'm not paying attention to that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I have no idea what happened to the food. Right? At some point, maybe the food got in the road.
Maybe he just held on to it the entire time he's tossing with us. Right? It goes in the in the road. Right? There is what it has.
But, like, at no point was I like, did I take his hat and then his food and throw it in the road, you know, or anything like that. Yeah. Not sure if he's Can can you can you see from me, Patrick? Yeah. For sure.
For sure. For partner. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh,
Speaker 0: excuse me. Yeah. Go ahead. It's. Sorry.
No.
Speaker 1: I'm just wanting to clarify because I talked with somebody that was very certain food got pushed up into the guy wearing a Trump hat.
Speaker 0: I like, I think I'm being completely honest with you guys. Like, I'm telling you exactly, like,
Speaker 1: I
Speaker 0: started it by throwing the guy's hat. I did not touch his fucking food. I did not, like, do anything like that. Yeah. Right?
Like, the idea was and I'm I think both of us, right, were thinking, like, well, I don't think he was thinking at all. Right? Gerald was probably I don't even know if he's 12. That's pretty fucking In my mind, I'm like, I wanna throw the hat. You know, he's gonna pick it up.
It's gonna be fun at me. Yada yada yada. I'm not gonna fuck this guy's fucking life up. Like, I'm not gonna fucking destroy his food or anything like that. I saw he had a had a bag of food.
Right? I didn't touch his hands at all. Only thing I did, grab his hat, toss it. That's the only thing. I I think I've been pretty straightforward here.
Speaker 1: Did you take him down to the ground?
Speaker 0: Here's exactly what happened. Okay. Like, I'll just stay seated because, like, sorry. Like Yeah. So When I'm standing up, it's like, I wanna, like, act it out.
It's kinda scary.
Speaker 1: No. You're fine. Whatever makes you comfortable.
Speaker 0: Wanna make you guys comfortable. Like, you know, I mean, what I don't want you guys to think, like, you know, basically. Exactly what happened was I walked up to the guy. Take the hat. Throw it.
I told him, go grab it, bitch. Right? You know? You wanna wear the hat? Hey.
There's gonna be a price to pay for it. Right? Same way fucking, you know, I've got my political opinions. Fucking people come up to me, fucking say shit to me. You know?
Speaker 1: Did he do any of that tonight?
Speaker 0: No. No. No. You know, hold this plug. I I saw this guy walking down.
You know, I saw the hat. Toss. I didn't touch his hands at all. Okay. Right?
I threw it. I started walking. I'm sure the video like, I'm almost completely sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. So, Patrick, right now,
Speaker 0: I'm gonna remove myself. You can leave that down there. I gotcha. Go ahead and stand up for
Speaker 1: me. K. You have the right to an attorney if you cannot
Speaker 0: afford one,
Speaker 1: and I'll be providing for you. I'm gonna advise you that you are being audio and video recorder.
Speaker 0: Sure. Sure. Sure.
Speaker 1: It is zero zero seventeen hours on 03/01/2025.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So how does this work? Like, am I getting booked tonight? Or
Speaker 1: We are gonna go through some things with you. Yeah. You gotta read you your constitutional rights. We're gonna switch into arrest, and then we're gonna talk you through some things. Okay?
Right.
Speaker 0: So it's
Speaker 1: I oh, I can do it.
Speaker 0: You got it? Yeah. K. I mean, I'm I'm aware of it.
Speaker 1: I know. And as much
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. I I I go with you. Actually, now that I now that I remember it, yeah, it's like Even You have say it. Exactly.
Yeah.
Speaker 1: Still have to tell you your rights, and it's not because
Speaker 0: I What's the am I gonna I'm gonna go to jail tonight or something like that.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna go to a holding facility? Yeah.
Speaker 0: Do want me to grab that one? Yeah. Can you grab that for me? So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court of
Speaker 0: law law.
Speaker 1: You have the right at this time to talk to a lawyer and have him present with you while you're being questioned. Yeah. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before questioning if you wish. You can decide at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you understand if I'm right, Finite?
Speaker 0: Yeah. I actually oh, yeah.
Speaker 1: Going through the motions that I too.
Speaker 0: So Yeah. So so, like, the the way this is gonna work is that you guys are gonna hold for six hours.
Speaker 1: Right? So we can hold you up to six hours. I can't give you a guarantee on, like, we're gonna get you in. We'll get you out. Because normally when I do that, then everything goes to shit, and I can't get you out until six hours.
So I try not to jinx myself because I do believe in that.
Speaker 0: I'm a little confused about how that works.
Speaker 1: Oh, because normally when I'm like, I'll get you out of here in an hour, that's when I have to go out and deal
Speaker 0: with I I cool. It won't work.
Speaker 1: You you live in town. Right?
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. And you're gonna show up to court when they say
Speaker 0: I mean, for sure. I mean, like, you guys called me, and I showed up. Right.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And so that is my impression. So we we absolutely can release you.
Speaker 0: Do I have a card?
Speaker 1: Can you search him, and then we'll Yeah.
Speaker 0: For sure. Sure. Right here or wait till he gets to car? No. It doesn't make it, man.
Like, I'm not I'm not worried about people. Do have anything on you? The stick me something? Do you have anything like that? Everything that's in my pockets, he's got.
Alright. I kind of figured that this might be a nice old thing.
Speaker 1: Feet apart. You don't have to go super wide.
Speaker 0: Not that drastic, man.
Speaker 1: But just a little bit. Okay. I'll check that for
Speaker 0: you. Thank you. Alright. Using the back of my hand, I'm gonna go up in between your legs. Go ahead, man.
Like, I'm What do do? I'm not worried about what you guys are doing. I I know the procedure.
Speaker 1: We try and give people a heads up.
Speaker 0: Alright. I appreciate it. You can stand right back up, man. There we go. Okay.
Alright. Which car would you like to pick?
Speaker 1: We can head to my car.
Speaker 0: Okay. Okay. Cool. Let's go. So it's like the booking process is just like, do you get bored?
Put it one Oh, okay. Cool. We have we only put one in each. So Yeah. I mean, I No.
It's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess I didn't realize that was your car. I I didn't realize that was your car.
Speaker 0: So, like, what's the deal here? Because, like, guys are talking to me
Speaker 1: charges assault for Pickering.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, that's that's not a that's a misdemeanor. Right?
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, like, what's the deal?
Because, like, my understanding is this is, like, I throw hands with this guy. Like, old boy threw hands with me too. Is this guy getting arrested?
Speaker 1: So we are basically taking a compilation of the various things that we were told and making decisions based off of that. Yeah. I
Speaker 0: mean, I guess this doesn't matter that much. Like, I know where I'm going. You know what I'm saying? Right?
Speaker 1: Well, you're not going to
Speaker 0: I'm not going to jail, but I'm going to jail for you. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here's heading to a holding facility. We'll go on the other side.
Speaker 0: K. Alright. We'll wait for this car to pass.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because we
Speaker 0: Fortunately, people don't pay attention.
Speaker 1: And they get really nervous around the house for some reason.
Speaker 0: Can't imagine why.
Speaker 1: Alright. Leave it
Speaker 0: or just know while you're in the back, you're being audio and video recorded. Okay? Okay. Push on that light to the other side.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna go in my bag. Here. Can you unlock it and then lock all the doors for me? K. Swing your feet out and watch your head as you get out.
Speaker 0: No. Well, that would be pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Funny for you, maybe.
Speaker 0: Okay. Sorry.
Speaker 1: You're fine.
Speaker 0: Just trying to introduce a little humor. Right?
Speaker 1: I I get it. I I appreciate it. I get
Speaker 0: it. Okay. I can shut up if you want me to.
Speaker 1: No. You're fine. Alright. Thank you. Okay.
We're gonna head inside.
Speaker 0: Okay. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Watch your step. Thank you so much. Have a good night. Thank you.
Speaker 0: Yeah. You got to go to door? I do.
Speaker 1: Oops. Sorry. And I'm just gonna have you stand in at what we call the pass through.
Speaker 0: Stand right here.
Speaker 1: No. You're gonna come over here, and I will meet you on the other side.
Speaker 0: Okay. No. I thought you were putting stuff in there.
Speaker 1: Oh, no. Well
Speaker 0: Yeah. I remembered somewhere on the other side.
Speaker 1: Camera on. Oh, sure. One next door to mine.
Speaker 0: I
Speaker 1: gotta get my guy. Alright, Patrick. Sorry. It. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 0: Yep. I'll
Speaker 1: have you stand over by the wall.
Speaker 0: Go over there now. Yeah. Sit. Hope you're a professor. I'm a grad student.
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're not We'll deal with that stuff, I think, later on.
I already asked your buddy this question, but I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you as well. Yeah. Go ahead. How reasonable do you think your actions are today? Well, you I think, like, on the verge of, like, unreasonable, but, like, I I I I wanna start if I feel comfortable.
You you made a comment about him asking for it because of the hat. Yeah. Not asking for a fight. Asking for, like Confrontation. I don't think, like I said, like, I I didn't I didn't the hit here.
Like, if it's a confrontation, to me, that's like What was he asking for? Square up. Right? Like, he was asking for, like, okay. You're wearing the hat.
Like, it's gonna get tossed, then you deal with it. We're good. Right? You know what I'm saying? Like, very easily Let me paint you a different picture.
Go ahead. Go ahead. I I I really enjoy I I really like Nike. I prefer Nike. Would you feel if when I see you wearing an Adidas sweatshirt down the street, I pull it off and you wanna grow it?
I mean, like, pulling it off of me requires taking over my, like, head and my arms and stuff. Right? What is the difference? I mean, like, I never touched this guy's arms. I never, like, I never restrained him in any way.
Right? Like, as soon as that he came off his hat, we were we kept walking. The video show, bro. Like, we kept walking. We didn't say, like Let's say, Johnny's or Like, we're now next.
We're gonna fuck you up or anything like that. So let's let's switch it up then. Sure. You're wearing an Adidas hat. I mean, like, do I think I have the right to start throwing hands?
Probably not. I mean, like So you're saying if I see you wearing an Adidas hat walking down the street If you take it off me and throw it, do I think I have the right to start throwing hands? I'm not saying it's okay, but I do I have the right
Speaker 1: to throw
Speaker 0: throwing hands? I mean, I've I would not start throwing hands. I'll sit down. Do you have the right to defend yourself with your property? I mean, like, is defending myself and my property, like, after it is off my head, I can throw hands?
So let me let me let me just end this for you because I don't I don't see us meeting to a common conclusion. I don't care what his hat says. You have no right to touch him. Okay. I did not I at no point did I touch his body.
I touched his That is him. That is him. Okay. I mean, maybe you know better than me. But to me, right I I don't even There's there's one decision that was made.
Right? Think it's I don't even like that's a law enforcement
Speaker 1: Home enforcement. I will take that after we call it kindergarten. The holding facility.
Speaker 0: I mean, like
Speaker 1: I couldn't hear that.
Speaker 0: In kindergarten in, like, first grade, kids act like this. Right? And, like Exactly. You're you're to my point. Yeah.
And individuals act like this. Right? And it's, True. Correct. Certain people, like, want to they put that on there because they they wanna get a rise out of people.
Like you? Well, you got a rise out of me. I'll give them that. But, like, I wasn't trying to fight with them. Kind of important.
Yeah. Right? Like Before a nurse.
Speaker 1: Sorry. I just have to get this done so that we can work on things. What is your and how tall are you?
Speaker 0: Five eight? Five seven? I don't know. I'll be honest. I do.
Speaker 1: I so I'm five six ish. How much
Speaker 0: You guys telling me, man. I said five eight.
Speaker 1: Five eight. Okay.
Speaker 0: Okay. I think it's taller than I usually am.
Speaker 1: How much do you weigh?
Speaker 0: One seventy.
Speaker 1: You got hazel eyes?
Speaker 0: Green eyes.
Speaker 1: Green. Okay.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It was taller.
Okay. Cool. Alright. So you stand up with me? Yep.
Speaker 1: And when's your birthday?
Speaker 0: 09/21/1998. We're gonna go into Sophie. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Go ahead and turn around. I'll take your handcuffs off. We're gonna go through your property and make sure that oh, you can release your hands.
Speaker 0: I don't know how. You said it's any more than they are now? So
Speaker 1: just keep your hands relaxed, and Okay. I'll let you know what
Speaker 0: as much as possible.
Speaker 1: Alright.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: Okay. You can have a seat right there.
Speaker 0: Okay. Sure.
Speaker 1: Right here. Right. Yeah. So I am gonna have you take your sweatshirt off.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you wanna finish going through his property? Okay. Yeah. And then I'll head up to do the noise complaint.
Speaker 0: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh, and FYI, Jason Johansson's out front roaming around.
Speaker 0: Do you still have staff to serve him?
Speaker 1: No. There was nothing on the board for him. That goes on top of there. Sure. You okay.
You have the keys?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Okay.
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Punishment for WSU teacher filmed beating Asian student in MAGA cap
PhD student and instructor Patrick Mahoney along with student Gerald Hoff ripped Jay Sani's hat from him while outside of a bar on February 28.
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WSU junior Jay Sonny says he was attacked by Patrick Mahoney and Gerald Hoff for wearing a Trump hat near the campus bar. Surveillance footage captured the incident, leaving Sonny with scrapes and bruises. Police arrested Mahoney and Hoff, who admitted to grabbing the hat and bringing Sonny to the ground, but downplayed the assault. They face misdemeanor assault charges.
Sonny believes his political views, as a Republican involved with Turning Point USA, clashed with Mahoney, a WSU graduate student, instructor, and far-left activist. Mahoney is allegedly a supporter of the communist party and has participated in pro-Hamas protests.
Mahoney was temporarily suspended after the February incident, but Sonny is speaking out now because he fears Mahoney may be reinstated. The school declined to comment. Mahoney refused to comment, and Hoff could not be reached. Sonny continues to wear his MAGA hat despite negative reactions. The university is preparing for a Turning Point USA event, which is drawing threats of disruption from left-leaning groups.
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Speaker 0: Pullman is farm country and is home to Washington State University, a campus that's focused on academic excellence and is supposed to be welcoming to diverse values and ideas.
Speaker 1: So I I was walking like this, my head down.
Speaker 0: That's why Jay Sonny says he never imagined his political leanings would make him a target.
Speaker 1: Patrick just just probably hates Trump.
Speaker 0: After a long day at work, the WSU junior says he got ambushed and jumped by Patrick Mahoney and Gerald Hoff
Speaker 1: Patrick, ripped the hat off my head.
Speaker 0: For wearing this bright red Trump cap.
Speaker 1: He said to me, go get it, or punch me a bunch of times on the back.
Speaker 0: Sonny says they unleashed a vicious beatdown all caught on surveillance cameras right in front of the Coug, a popular campus bar packed with students.
Speaker 1: Gerald also kicked me also a bunch of times too. Patrick, he he grabbed my chest, slammed it on the concrete as I was falling.
Speaker 0: He tried to defend himself.
Speaker 1: So I have go throw my food at his face.
Speaker 0: But Sonny says two against one was just unfair.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell just happened?
Speaker 0: And the melee left him with multiple scrapes and bruises.
Speaker 1: Oh, because of this. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Pullman police eventually found the pair nearby within hours of the chaos.
Speaker 1: I've seen this guy campus before. Okay. I know he's like being like right wing dude.
Speaker 0: Mahoney and Hoff pretty much admitted to the allegations.
Speaker 1: I like grabbed his hat, threw it, and I said like go get it. We did grab him and bring him to the ground.
Speaker 0: But tried to downplay the incident.
Speaker 1: I didn't hit him. I don't think I did something illegal. Right? Someone in touching. Someone in touching, I don't know what that is.
Right?
Speaker 0: In fact, Mahoney tried to victim blame.
Speaker 1: He wanted to fight. He got what's coming to him.
Speaker 0: The officers didn't buy that story and arrested them on the spot.
Speaker 2: You have the right to an attorney if you cannot
Speaker 0: afford one. They're now facing fourth degree misdemeanor assault charges.
Speaker 1: See, the thing is is that this country, you know, was, you know, was also built, you know, around tolerance.
Speaker 0: Sonny says he doesn't know Hoff, but his prior interactions with Mahoney may have played a role in this assault since the two are at opposite ends of the political spectrum.
Speaker 1: Patrick said I'm a communist because the system fails people.
Speaker 0: Sahni is a Republican and volunteers with conservative groups on campus like Turning Point USA. Can you tell me about Patrick?
Speaker 1: He seems like a nice dude.
Speaker 0: Mahoney is a WSU graduate student and instructor, teaching a freshman level political science class.
Speaker 1: Had his beliefs and.
Speaker 0: By all accounts, Mahoney is a notorious far left activist.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm gonna think you are beyond insane.
Speaker 0: Who hates conservative values and is a regular at pro Hamas
Speaker 1: protests in the city. Almost 30,000 Gazan civilians have been killed.
Speaker 0: Recently, he was part of a group pressuring the Pullman City Council to pass a resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, but that went nowhere.
Speaker 1: To support the revolution. Support the resolution.
Speaker 2: Workers everywhere are rising up.
Speaker 0: Sahni says Mahoney has strong ties to the Democratic Socialists of America, progressive pro labor groups, and is someone who publicly touts his admiration for the communist party. Look at the hammer and sickle pin he's wearing in this official school photo.
Speaker 1: My only goal is to is to turn this country into a communist dictatorship or a communist authoritarian system. I'm a hit to be like, yo, don't fuck with us anymore.
Speaker 0: This violent incident happened in late February, and the school temporarily suspended Mahoney from classes and teaching duties. But Sonny is speaking up now since he's hearing his attacker could be reinstated and doesn't want that to happen.
Speaker 1: He really shouldn't be teaching here in my opinion because, you know, if you can't tolerate different different opinions, then then then what's the point?
Speaker 0: School leaders would not comment on this matter citing student privacy laws. I wanna see if mister Mahoney wants to tell his side of the story.
Speaker 1: No. Go away.
Speaker 0: Mahoney refused to talk after I door knocked him at his off campus apartment.
Speaker 1: Gerald's in the black. Gerald Hoff is in the black. And I'm black.
Speaker 0: We were unable to reach Hoff to get his side of the story but found his LinkedIn account indicating he's employed at WSU. Again, the school would not comment on Hoff's status either.
Speaker 1: You know, Trump won the elections because the left was so toxic like
Speaker 0: Meanwhile, Sonny is still wearing that MAGA cap and frequently getting dirty looks on campus. But he's also getting tons of love from students and faculty who respect him for sticking to his convictions. You must be sick and tired of getting bullied?
Speaker 1: It does become exhausting. Yes.
Speaker 0: The university is now preparing for an event on April 17 featuring TPUSA founder and CEO Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3: You can't express your beliefs, like, as openly as some of the left leaning students can.
Speaker 2: Like, when I'm tabling for Turning Point here on campus,
Speaker 3: I've been cussed out. I've been flipped off.
Speaker 0: It's already drawing online chat from violent militant groups like Antifa and other left leaning students who are promising to disrupt and cause chaos.
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MUST WATCH: Tucker Carlson interviews Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. https://t.co/hAxbC6BBlf
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Well, we in Hungary have been bucking the liberal trends for 15 years with policies like strong borders and prioritizing citizens, but Trump stole our thunder. We felt squeezed between the U.S. and Brussels, but now the U.S. isn't on our back anymore.
The global liberal elite uses taxpayer money to push their ideology, funding NGOs and media against our sovereignty. It's a liberal deep state. They push open borders and transgenderism, driven by money and ideology. They believe combining Muslim migrants with Christian societies will create a better society, but we should decide for ourselves.
Trump changed the mindset in the West. Defending your interests is now good, and traditional values are back.
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Speaker 0: I will introduce our next guest, who is the longest serving leader in Europe by far, and he is someone, that I interviewed several years ago for the first time. He is, of course, the prime minister of Hungary, Viktor Orban. Thank you, mister prime minister. And I I was just thinking back when I worked at a jointly publicly traded news company and interviewed you for the first time. You're a democratically elected leader of a European nation, and it was considered controversial to interview you, because your ideas were considered eccentric.
And they included emphasis on the middle class and families. They included, above all, secure borders, serving your citizens, before you serve foreigners. And that was all considered super radical and dangerous. And I wonder if you feel vindicated years later by watching what happened to the rest of Europe when they didn't follow those simple ideas.
Speaker 1: So now we lost all the real attraction, what we have done previously, And Donald Trump take away all the, attraction of the international politics. You know? So we have done we have done something for fifteen years in Hungary in a in a in headwind, liberal headwind, Stopping migration, defending traditional values, respecting religious communities, no green deal, low taxation. So everything which is unorthodox in the mind of the Liberals. So we were a kind of hero.
We were kind of island of difference in the Liberal Ocean. But now, unfortunately, Donald Trump taking over everything. So, yeah, just sitting and and try to follow him now. This this this is a totally new reality. And, and that's, may I say, very much helpful to Hungary because, you know, I tried to make some jokes on how the last fifteen years was but it was serious.
So when you have one boot from United States on your chest and one from Brussels, European Union trying to kill you and to deliver evidences that that way of government and governments cannot work, it's difficult to survive. So now we remember back in a happy way, but that was very serious. So now at least one boost is out. The Americans not anymore on our chest, not kneeing on our chest. So it's an appeasement.
So we think that life is happy, and this will be even happier when we step away the Brazilian bureaucrats and the other boost is down. That's the plan.
Speaker 0: I remember one of your advisers telling me years ago whispering to me at dinner that the US government, state department, and agencies like USAID, were working against you, funding your opposition indirectly, and really trying to subvert democracy in your country and thinking, boys, can that be true? It turns out now it is true. And I wonder when the rest of us are gonna get details on what exactly the state department did to end democracy in Hungary.
Speaker 1: So first of all, I think, those who love conspiracy theories are in trouble. They have to find new ones because the old one proved to be true. So so that's the that's the first problem.
Speaker 0: That is a it's a massive problem in The United States. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The the the the second is that, you know, it's a taxpayer money.
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: So the if you take it, this whole thing, not as a political one, but rather as a moral issue. The the fact is that the liberal elite of the West use the taxpayers money of United States citizens to spread their ideology all around the world and financed in Hungary more than 60 NGOs, paid politicians, media outlets. You know? So it was a it was a a plot against our, our sovereignty and independence. Sorry.
Made by you. I know. Sorry. But but but this is the case and the same has happened from the Brazilian budget, which is even more scandalous, may I say, because we pay the money in the Brazilian budget and they finance our enemies at home, you know. So what's going on?
So this is the liberal deep stake. The global liberal deep state, and now now we see how it has operated.
Speaker 0: It raises a deep question of motive. Why would anyone want to spread, you know, deadly ideas like open borders or transgenderism? Hey. How about no grandchildren for you? How about, you know, nobody reproduces anymore?
What what would be the motive for spreading poison like that?
Speaker 1: This should be it should be not naive, I think so. One motivation is always money. So that was a way how the American Democrats thought they can open the gates for their business activity. If they change the governments which insisted insisting on having sovereignty and standing and fight for themselves, it's more difficult to find business possibilities for those speculators. Soros, Soros is a Hungarian guy.
George Soros kind of speculators can find easier way to generate money and to make profit on your economy. So that's the number one motivation. But the second one, don't forget that leftists are always ideologically driven. And they believe certain things, which for us sounds crazy, even embarrassing, you know, frightening. But they believe it.
They in in Europe, probably is difficult to understand, But I'm sure that the leaders of the left in Western Europe deeply convinced that if they let the migrants in, which are basically Muslims, poor Muslim persons, and led them to to be combined with the traditional Christian society, and they manage a kind of integration, the outcome of this whole process will be a better and happier society. And that's the reason why George Soros published his plan. It was it was signed by himself saying that, European Union should live should let, 1,000,000 migrants every year to move to Europe. And then you know, I always said that it belongs to the decision of the national government. So if the Germans or the French would like to make that historical research project, how to improve that society, let's do it.
But let us those who do not believe that the outcome will be a good thing, not to do that. So, Hungary never tried to educate anybody how a society could be better or worse. We always said that, guys, let us to make our own decision. And to let migrants in or or keep them out, it's exclusively belonging to our nations as a decision. So don't don't force us from force us from Brussels or from Washington.
That migration is good and those who have not let the migrants in definitely must be bad guys. So this is unacceptable. But that was the thing. But Donald Trump changed the mindset of the West. I think this is the key issue.
So probably Donald Trump president will change the geopolitics as well. I hope so anyway. But but he already made a huge change in the mindset of the political thinking of the West. Previously, they said migration is good. To resist to migration is bad.
Now it's just the opposite. To defend your interest is good. Migration, illegal migration especially, is bad. Then on the Green Deal, they said green is good, economic competitiveness does not count. Now, it's obvious that economic competitiveness first and green issues just the second.
And then on on on religious communities and values, Christianity in our case, you know. It was said that this belonged to the Middle Age. They made us ridiculous several times, making jokes on us and so on. But now, the president said, it's a respectful thing. The community of the believers must enjoy respect, which is good for our society.
Or, then family, in the West, the mindset was that family is also belonging to the to the past and other configuration of living together persons is is is preferable. Now it's back. Traditional values are better than these whole things. And gender, which is a crazy gender propaganda. Now it's it's publicly said it's bad.
To defend traditional values is good. And war. You know, in Europe in the last three years, it was said always that war is good, peace is bad, concerning Ukraine Russia war. So those who argued in favor of peace and peace negotiations and communications said, you are bad guys. The good guys are who are in favor of war.
So now it's totally changed. So Donald Trump president already changed the mindset of the whole Western world. That's where we are at this moment, and it's very good for Hungary.
Speaker 0: Well, it's certainly a vindication for you. If I can just go back to something you said. You said that, Soros and his aligned NGOs and the the movement that he represents has pushed these things because they sincerely believe them to be true. But they haven't pushed them on any nation outside the West. No one is pushing China to let in a million or 10,000,000 relative to its size migrants a year or India or for that matter, Korea or Japan or The Philippines or any other country.
It's only Western countries. Why in their mind is it only Western countries that need unrestricted migration?
Speaker 1: That would request a deeper understanding of the intellectual history of the European political thinking. But I there was always a strong leftist liberal community which was not proud being a westerner. Always have perceived its own civilization as something bad. And their intention was not to make it stronger and to maintain and make it stronger, but rather to destroy. To improve by destroying.
That's very communist idea. Deleting the past. That was always the communist idea. So, they don't like the West. They don't like their nation.
Sometimes they are ashamed to belong to a nation because they think that nation is a bad thing. So if you think that nation is something good and you are proud of it and you think that you have to work for your nation to be competitive and better than the others, it's an awful Nazis, you know, extreme right something. That's that's their approach. That that's the tradition of the European left. And in the in the latest years, it was brutally witnessed, in the everyday political discussion.
So I'm a fascist, you know. I'm sitting here like, you know. I'm I'm I'm a bad guy. I'm a fascist. I am a middle aged, feudalistic, Christian radical, you know.
So that's, who is arguing for peace, which is the worst thing. Yeah. Oh, that's absurd, may I say.
Speaker 0: So, this has been going on since the end of the last big war, so eighty years, and particularly migration. And so I think we can render some judgment. How has that worked for the big nations of Europe, for Britain, Germany, France? Can we look back and say that experiment was a success? You mean, migration.
Migration? Unrestricted migration.
Speaker 1: So we are living in, okay, under a liberal dictatorship intellectually, but politically still we are living in democracies. So public opinion counts. And I think now we have a problem of democracy because of the migration. It's not just a problem of migration, a problem of democracy. Because if you have an elite which is not ready to accept the obvious public will of your voters, instead of accepting that forcing against the population their own crazy ideas, it raised the problem of democracy.
Because yeah. So that's where we are. Because now there's a quite strong shift in the mindset of the western societies. Previously, at the beginning of the mass migration, period, I'm speaking about 1535, '20 '16, there were half and half of the societies, even probably more than half was in favor of doing something good in favor of those who were considered as refugees. Then slowly but surely turned turned to be that they are not refugees, basically.
They're changing their place. There are some of them refugees, but basically the majority of them would like to get a better life, simply. And they are organized by smugglers. It's it's an international black business, you know, so it's it's it's an awful business. So and now the terrorism somehow related to these whole changes, just come up to the surface.
It's never happened earlier. Terrorism was not part of the Western life anyway. If I remember back, the last one was in the seventies, some crazy communist Marxist group of Germany. But after that, you know, terrorism is not part of the Western life. Violence of public life is is is is does not belong to us.
But now terrorism is up, you know, public order is dispersing. So now the society is against the mass migration policy. So we're common culture, cultur, as it was called by Angela Merkel, now it's totally negative. And the problem is that the elite was so much committed to that ideology that now it's difficult to to change their position. And that leads us to the to the problem of democracy.
As we will see in Germany, just soon, election is coming two weeks time. So and you probably have realized that there were some surprising discussion in the German parliament whether to change the migration regulation or not. And the public opinion said, 70% said, yes, you should change it. And they voted against it. So it's a problem of democracy.
It's not just a problem of migration. It's not a problem of leadership. The whole structure and the system is under pressure at this moment.
Speaker 0: The word democracy has been changed. Its meaning has been changed in The United States to mean whatever the people in charge want is democracy, but you're referring to it by its traditional meaning, which means what the majority wants. Correct?
Speaker 1: Yes. But at the same time, don't forget that democracy is, is a is a word we use too much, probably too often without understanding exactly what does it mean. There are many theories as you know, but the most relevant one is the Greek origin of the understanding of democracy. Democracy means two things at the same time. Participation of the people, involvement.
But the involvement of the people must be resulted in good governance. If the involvement of the people, the public opinion does not result in good governance, it's anarchy. It's not democracy. So, democracy means participation of the people by their voting in the major decisions and the outcome must be a good governance. If one of them is lacking, it's not democracy.
And now in Europe, we are heading to a position when the people has a chance to vote, but there is no chance to get good governance. So we are moving brother towards a kind of energetical public life in, in in West Europe.
Speaker 0: So Germany, specifically, from the outside, you're a European leader. But from an American perspective, Germany is the the dominant economic player in the continent and The giant. It it feels that way from our perspective. And so what is the German economy? What does it look like right now?
How would you assess it?
Speaker 1: Okay. The German economy is part of the European bond because we have the single market. And, and the single market as such is in trouble. I am a I'm in politics international politics for more than thirty years. And I do remember then thirty years ago, the biggest economy of the world was the European Union.
And now it's only number three. And if you look at the top five economies of the world, there is no European among them. So European Union economically is not a success story. And, the success of European Union will always strongly link to the success of German economy. And now they are suffering and we are suffering.
And the reason is very simple. There was a well functioning, quite well functioning structural model of the German economy and the European economy. That was cheap Russian energy and the well advanced European technology come together and we are competitive. But now after the war, we isolated ourselves from the cheap energy and there is no new strategy. How we could be competitive?
So we have a lost strategy but we don't have a new one. There's no replacement for the old one. So now the problem is that we don't have compass where where we should move. So we are just managing the daily work, but there is no real strategy. What is the future of the European economy?
No answer of that. That's the reason why, China, United States, because president Trump is back, obviously, is in a far better position than we are. Lack of leadership, lack of ideas, lack of visions. That's why we suffer.
Speaker 0: Well, I mean, the the Biden administration imposed the Green New Deal on Germany with high explosives by blowing up Nord Stream. So on many levels, I don't understand. So you have the largest player in NATO committing an act of terror, industrial terrorism against the second largest player in NATO. How does NATO still exist, honestly? And why does nobody say anything about it?
Speaker 1: Hungary is a small country, you know, so I think 10,000,000, you know, so elephants is a different game. It's it's another league. You know? So that's how they if if it would have happened with Hungary, there would be some noise. No question of that.
But, you know, it's Germany. So So there's been
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But, why do you think even now there's no Nordstrom to me as a total outsider seems like a pivot point in the history of Europe. It really seems like a big deal.
Speaker 1: I share your point.
Speaker 0: You right. And, obviously, it was also the largest emission of greenhouse gases caused by humans in the history of civilization, and no one mentioned it. So, okay. But why is there no conversation about it? I don't know.
I really don't understand that. And every time I bring it up in Europe, people look embarrassed and try to walk away from me.
Speaker 1: So I think I think the basic reason is that, in the last several decades, there was a strong alliance between the American liberal elite and the European liberal elite. And they agree always what is the issue issue and what is not the issue. If they decided that something is not an issue, it was not an issue. And the Germans were part of that kind of transatlantic liberal alliance. And they were managed to stop all the voices which tried to raise the question, which is a serious one anyway.
But but but anyway, it's not the only one. I do remember some other scandals as well. Beginning of the previous decade, it turned out that The United States, Democratic Government anyway, taped, the chancellor of Germany. And we were discussing it at the European council meeting. Sarkozy, who was the president of France, said that I said, guys, what a scandalous thing is that?
We have to do that. The German said, no. No. No. No.
No. No. No. No. Transatlantic relation is the most important thing.
We have to manage nothing that way and so on. So that's an alliance between the transatlantic elites from from America and, and the European Union.
Speaker 0: It hasn't helped, I don't think the European Union.
Speaker 1: So as as probably that was your sentence, not mine. You know? If if if a country is not ready to stand up and fight for himself, does not deserve any help from outside.
Speaker 0: I I couldn't agree more. But I also think and tell me I'd love your perspective on this. It's my instinct that the fortunes of Europe, the economic fortunes of Europe, security condition of Europe, really matters to The United States because it's just inexorably. It's fundamentally part of a bloc. It's the West.
So if Europe declines, I don't see how that helps The US.
Speaker 1: I think, the approach of the of the new incumbent, administration of United States has a has a very special approach to to the other economies. And this is based on facts and figures and concentrate on trade balances. And as far as I was able to understand the way of thinking of this new administration in your country, they see a triangle. Europe, China, United States. And they have a look at the figures.
And Europe make a plus 200,000,000,000 of trade with United States. We lose the same sum to China. So it's basically Europe Europe is zero. And euro European Union make €2,200,000,000,000 plus the trade with you, United States, and, and you lose, to China Three Hundred. So it means that Europe is basically zero, China plus 500,000,000,000, United States minus 500,000,000,000.
And as your President said, it's not good, it's bad. So something should be done. And he will do something. He's not, probably the new administration is not thinking about geopolitical concepts of economy, but you know figures, facts. And they would like to do something to improve the trade balance.
And that's a challenge for Europe. So it's a serious matter. It's not about friendship. It's not about, you know, love each other, brother in arms. That's very nice, but it's money.
It's figures. So, we have to find a solution and to make a deal with The United States. If Europeans are just sitting and waiting, that's not a good strategy. We should come up with a strategy and to provide something, a deal, proposals to The United States to how to reshape that kind of imbalanced trade relationship. Otherwise we will gut tariffs and we will suffer.
We are not strong enough to defend our interest after waiting and losing months and weeks and months. So, but the problem is that Europe now leads by bureaucrats. You know we have the European Commission. Do you know what is it? The Commission is is a bureaucratic body which originally was planned to be, the guardian of the treaty.
You know? So just to have to maintain the fair legal regulation inside the single market area. But now the bureaucrats are more than 30,000. You know, they're growing, growing, growing. And they took away the leadership from the from the real prime ministers of Europe.
So now the commission tried to lead tries to lead the European Union, but they are bureaucrats. And we have the leadership program because bureaucrats cannot lead anything politically. When everything is going well, bureaucrats are not harmful because things are going well. But when there are difficulties and decision must be made, like now we should make an offer to United States, the bureaucrats will never do that because they are bureaucrats. Bureaucrats are interested in status quo, not to provide political leadership for your community.
So that's another problem inside the European Union. But I would not like to speak too much about other countries because my job is to preserve the sovereignty and good chances for the future of my own nation. So what I'm doing now, I try to find a way how we can have a good relation with The United States to make some deals on economy as much as big as we can. We are working on that. And try to create an economic policy which make Hungary successful even if the European Union exists or European Union does not exist.
The problem is to be sharp. We have not more than three, four years and if we don't do something dramatically different strategy, the European Union will fall apart. So so there there is a there is a famous study published in Western Europe called Draghi Report. Draghi was the previous head of the European Bank and previously Prime Minister of Italy. And he put together a study.
And the study is very clear. If you don't do something in three years' time to push down the price of the energy and to make Europe competitive, especially by creating a capital market at at the European Union level, the European Union economy is over. So now we pay three, four times higher price for the electricity than you do it in The United States, and five, six times higher price for gas than you do in United States. How are companies can be competitive? Yeah.
It's impossible. And then, you you run a policy and Donald Trump president will do so even more, to attract the Capiters from all over the world to The United States. So the Capiters will move out from Europe to United States and to other places as well. So we have to do something to keep the capital inside the European Union, but we don't have a strategy how to do it. So so now the European Union is really at the at the watershed.
Speaker 0: But you have ended global warming. Do you feel good about that?
Speaker 1: Hungary has a nice climate, so I'm not. But, taking seriously the global responsibility, of course. But the problem is not the global climate issue. The problem is that if you would like to find a solution for a global issue like like climate issue. You can't do it against the business community.
So, if you don't convince the business community that they could be part of this whole process, involvement again. To involve them into that policy. If you don't do that, but ideologically led political movement, green movement, you do like that, you know, it's hopeless. It will be not successful. Look at the Green Deal.
Green Deal is dead. It's a suicide attempt for the European Union. Nobody is sharing of that. We do it and we kill our industry. So if you would like to have a good green policy, you need the business, the business leaders, and the common strategy.
That's the only way. Otherwise, we are end up as as we are today.
Speaker 0: So both the structures that overlay Europe, NATO, and the EU seem like they've played out or they're not working as intended. I think we can say that.
Speaker 1: And and the problem is the problem is that the European institutions cannot reform it, cannot provide leadership because it's a strange creature of the European Union. Yes. So the only possibility to have a leadership is the French and the German government is strong, stable, visionary, and take the lead. Right. Which is not the case at this moment.
Speaker 0: So so so why not a different structure with, you know, an alliance of countries that have something in common, a common world view, similar economies, say, East Of Switzerland, Central Central And Eastern Europe? Why and then sort of let, you know, France and and, and Britain sort of enjoy the fruits of, you know, of the decisions that they've made.
Speaker 1: So so we have a strategy anyway. Hungary, that that's my job anyway. We have a strategy, of course, And Central European leaders have their own strategy. So, our main criticism to the European Union at this moment, that they launch wars with everybody who could be important partners for your economy. We launch a war on ideology Donald Trump.
President Donald Trump. We launched a war with China on trade issues. We initiated the tariff war with China. And then we launched a war with Russia on energy. So, why is it a good policy?
In Central Europe, we did just the opposite. We built up a good relation with the new Republican administration. Forty four percent of all European investment from China arrived to Hungary last year. 44% of all European. And we maintained the communication and cooperation even with the Russians.
So connectivity is the word, not blocking. The European Union tried to to build up block instead of running connectivity, strategy based on connectivity and do on a common sense based business with everybody who can provide something good for the European Union. So so but Central Europe does exactly what I'm saying about. Slovaks do it. Hungary do it.
Serbia do it.
Speaker 0: There there's a famous the first famous picture of you is from 1989 getting arrested by security Russian backed security forces. You were a student protest leader against the effective Russian occupation of your country in Eastern Europe. So, with that in mind, I've listened for the past three years to you denounced as a put Putin puppet in our press. What what's your response to that? Are are you?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so ridiculous that it's it's always a dilemma to me to react at all or not. But, okay. If if I take it seriously, you know, I I am not a pro Putin man. I'm a pro Hungarian guy, you know, because my job is to serve my nation.
That's first. Second, we have some memories with the with the Russians. It's not a honeymoon anyway. You know, Hungary, just to the audience, the Hungary is is dominated by always three major powers. One Germany I mean, Berlin, the Moscow, and Istanbul.
Yeah? So we are living just in the middle of that. Each of them occupied at least once. Russians three. You know?
So it's a so that's the menu card, what you have, if you are living in that peculiar part of the European Union.
Speaker 0: Sounds like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: So so therefore, I I decided when I came back to power in 02/2010, and I made a deal with, with the president Russia, president Putin, that whatever was the history between the two nations, let it to the historians and discuss it. And we should find a reasonable cooperation and do it economically as as as much as we can. And we did. And it worked. It was good.
You know, Russians always kept their words. When we agreed on anything with Putin, that was done on my side as well. So, therefore, my attitude to the Russians is is not that, negative and crazy as many of the Western leaders at this moment. And in my position on this war between Ukraine and Russia, I always said to them, guys, don't forget that this war is not about Ukraine. Don't don't make a mistake.
The strategical reason of this war is called enlargement of NATO. So the the question is whether we would like to enlarge NATO or not. If we would like to enlarge NATO, the Russians will never accept it. Whether you like it or not, you know, they will not let us to move closer to their borders. But this is the main issue, enlargement of NATO.
So then when the war has broken because Russia invaded Ukraine finally to stop the NATO membership, and occupy the the territories, I said to my colleagues that we should isolate as much as we can and as soon as we can this whole conflict. Otherwise, the conflict will accelerate, eating up more and more money, more and more casualties, more and more deaths. Now hundreds of thousands of widows. And you know, it's a tax it's you know, when two Slavic nations are in war, it's serious. Because they are both military based nations.
So so it it it's it's a it's a tragedy what's going on. It's really brutal. It's not just a geopolitical game. You know? It's a human it's human tragedy anyway.
And so I said, we should isolate them and stop killing. But what now the western strategy is that, keep killing as long as it take. So that that's that's what they are doing. So, unfortunately, I remain alone. We voted, and I was the only one who was against the involvement of European Union to the war.
Later on now, the Slovakians follow the same track, plus Vatican. So Vatican, Slovaks and Hungary. And now, Donald Trump president. So that's a new story. Because your president is following exactly the same track which was offered by us, I mean, by Hungary in the last three years.
So another good news.
Speaker 0: Less than a year in, there was what seems like a pretty meaningful attempt to end it, to settle the conflict, and that was scuttled by the Biden administration using the former British prime, minister Boris Johnson. Why do you think the Biden administration wanted the war to continue? And the and it wasn't just Johnson. It was The UK more broadly. Its whole political establishment was fanatically is to this day
Speaker 1: fanatically. Still.
Speaker 0: What is that? They're not historic enemies, by the way. Keep in mind. They were allied in the last big war. They've never been invaded by Russia.
Like, why is Britain so intent on killing all these Ukrainians? I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Is it my job to answer to that? Yes. I don't think so.
Speaker 0: You're the longest serving leader in Europe. I thought you might have. No. You don't yeah.
Speaker 1: When I will in my in my years intention, I'm ready to answer to that. Try to survive, brother.
Speaker 0: Totally fair. Can you just describe for those who haven't, I mean, you're very much you know, you're not far from the fighting, by the way, for people who haven't looked at a map. So can you describe the effects on Europe of this war for those of us who don't live on the continent? Like, what what effects has this had, do you think?
Speaker 1: So just start with the very very narrow Hungarian approach. Because of the sanctions and the war, we are losing every year around €7,000,000,000. Hungary is a small country. Can you imagine? Just hunger?
Just hunger. Just hunger. Just hunger. So altogether, we don't know the figures exactly, but Europe spent close to €200,000,000,000, which is out of the European economy. So it's a it's a sum.
That's first. Second, we isolated ourselves from the Russian economy, including the the energy, which will have a long term impact on us as well, as I said, losing our work well functioning economic strategy as a basis of the European economy. The third one is the migrants. I mean, they are not migrants. They are really refugees.
So the Ukrainians left the country. Nobody knows exactly how many, but tens of millions. So we are speaking about a country which one fifth or one fourth of the territory is occupied by Russia. The industrial area is totally destroyed and the people are just escaping. So it's really a tragedy.
And if President Trump is not able to find a solution, that war could become easily an Afghanistan for the European Union. Endless war, endless conflict, no way out of the conflict, eating up energy, human lives, money, everything, destroying the the frame of normal life for the European Union. So it's we are in a in a in a serious danger. The the difficulty is, that's not my challenge, but his challenge to president Trump, how to convince the Russians to stop the war while the Russians basically winning? This is the big question.
Luckily enough, it's not my job to find an answer again. But but but I'm convinced that if you try to find a solution just directly on the war between Russia and Ukraine, you will never find a solution. So we should make a bigger basket to incorporate the issue of reintegration of Russia into the international security order, to reintegrate Russia into the European security system, and to find a way of economic cooperation, basically energy, plus Ukraine. If you make that kind of bigger basket, probably there is a chance for the deal. If it's narrowly, directly concentrating just Ukraine and Russia, it's a real challenge intellectually and politically to to any president of The United States.
But it's not my job again, sir. So it's
Speaker 0: I mean, from a American perspective, the Biden administration has succeeded in driving Russia into deep integration with China, deep integration, both economically and militarily, and that's terrible from our perspective. But to come back and try and bring Russia back into swift, even something as simple as that, you're fighting against three years of some of the most vicious, over the top, leave no room for compromise rhetoric about Russia where Putin is daily described as Hitler. So can you actually do that once these words have been spoken? If I No.
Speaker 1: Right? No. Way back. So I think, you know, we are different nations. It's not my job to make any comment either on Russia, but, Russia is a military based country.
So the mindset is about okay, the mindset for you or mindset for me, when we speak about democracy, what is the first question which came to my mind? You concentrate your ideas around freedom. Yeah? Of course. Okay.
But it's not the case in Russia. In case of Russia, it's security of the nation. Then democracy and other issues which are important. But the number one is because it's a too big country to keep it together. It's the number one historical challenge and mission for the leaders.
So, it's a different mindset again. So if you have that kind of country and you insult them politically, try to isolate them politically, try to kill them economically, then support his enemy by all the means. And after serious, you say, no. We don't think too much seriously, so come back and cooperate with that. It doesn't work.
So we made a historical mistake, which is decisive for for at least one hundred years and based cement, the Chinese Russian cooperation for one hundred year. So we have to see that kind of block as a block. Probably Russia will make a deal with us on many issues, but we'll never give up that kind of final background what China means. If you would be in the shoes of Vladimir Putin, I think you would do the same thing. Never give up that kind of background which was the real and only background.
Can you imagine if China would not be in that relation with Russia and use the possibility of being attacked from West and try to squeeze from the East Russia? You know? But Chinese did not do so. They said, We don't accept that kind of Western approach to this war. You know?
So, it's history. It's not just a war of the decade. It will have an impact for long, long, long, long decades. We believe with that. Even with even our kids will live in that age.
But Russia will never come back to the West as it was. Never again. Sorry to say that. I'm not happy with that because Russia is too close to Hungary. You know?
And the Ukraine what what is basically again the problem? You know? The Russians accepted in a very difficult way that sent to European countries like my home, Hungary, became member of NATO. They always criticize that move saying that it's unfair because it was promised. Nobody knows exactly whether did it happen or not.
But it was promised that the ex Soviet Union dominated territories will now join NATO. But we did. Good for us anyway. And then the Russians started to live with that. In that concept, Ukraine was the buffer zone between NATO and Russia.
And then now, as we started to incorporate more and more Ukraine, First at the military level, developing their army, then even in the diplomatic level to speak about the member possible membership of Ukraine to NATO, we converted the buffer zone into a war zone. So it's not anymore a buffer zone. That's the problem. And it's history. It's not it's not about one or two decades issue.
So how we imagine the territory between the NATO and Russia. How we call it and how to manage it. How we provide the future for the people and the territory. So these are the real big and difficult challenges ahead of us.
Speaker 0: One big change.
Speaker 1: When we jumped into the war, that that was all sorry. That was always my argument to the Westerners that don't consider that war as our own war. It's not a war of the West. It's a war between two Slavic nations. A brutal, but a brotherhood war.
Russians and Ukrainians. Isolate them, have them, but don't don't say that this is our war. That's exactly what you have done. Basically, a Biden president came to Warsaw and said, Putin must fail. Guys, it means that you are in the war.
So why we have done it? Nobody knows the answer of that, you know. So it was a very short sighted idea. Probably they thought that they could make weakened Russia. I was always sure the very first moment that a war will make Russia stronger than it was prior to the war.
That's our history. First World War, Second World War. When they start the war, they are weaker. As the war is going ahead, they are getting stronger and stronger and stronger. That's the lesson of the Hungarian history.
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So this February, show them you care. Get the Jayce case today. You'll have the right meds on hand when you need them. You only need them once, you ought to have them. You were the first person I mean, I live in in The United States, so I live in such a North Korean news vacuum that I was shocked when I spoke to you in the summer of twenty twenty two and asked, who do you think will win this war?
And you laughed, and you said, have you looked at the populations? Russia's a hundred million more people, and I thought, why have I never heard this before? Everything you're saying now is what you were saying two and a half years ago, and you were you were proven right.
Speaker 1: I'm not happy with that anyway.
Speaker 0: No. I I I know. But I I guess what I'm saying is western policy makers also have access to Wikipedia. So how did they not know this?
Speaker 1: I think two reasons. One is that they have an interpretation of the second World War that Russia was able to win against Germany just because the Anglo Saxons supported them. That's first. Second, you know May I ask
Speaker 0: you to pause? And you don't believe that's true?
Speaker 1: I think to certain extent, it was true. So a lot of support came from United States, especially to Russia, especially in motion, weapons, and so on. So I can't say that that was the preconditions. Not the I don't underestimate the heroic attempts of the Russians to defend their own land, even against the Hungarians anyway, because we were on the other side. But it's true that the alliance with the West played the role that Russia was able to survive the the German attacks.
So that's exaggeration on the Western side of that story probably. And the second, don't forget that in the nineties, in the nineties, I was prime minister when, when when president Putin came into power, 1990. I was first time prime minister at that time. And I do remember how was the nineties. In the nineties, there was the Washington Consensus, which is a theory of how to reorganize the world economy, Privatization, competitiveness, and so on.
And and the global capitalist started to invest into Russia and they had a feeling that now they find the key how to integrate the Russian economy and the huge vast Russian territories and the raw materials, energy supply territories into the world economy. That was the nineties. And they did it. They they made huge amount of money. George Soros, who I always good folks to follow anyway to understand what's going on, did it.
But the Russians were not satisfied with that at all. And then, there was a change. President Putin came to power and said, Guys, this integration to the world economy, not the way which is serving the interest of Russia. And they cut many things. And many Americans and European investors have to realize some losses.
And I think the idea that they have they were so close to get it, to get the the major source of the profit, and it was stopped by the same the same man, there is a personal revenge element in their way of thinking. I'm sure I have that. Sorry to that's too much probably to say about it.
Speaker 0: You know that that's a very diplomatic description. From our perspective, it looked like looting by Western businesses that resulted in, like, the lowest life expectancy in Europe by far. And the story from Putin's ascension in February is climbing Russian life expectancy, which I think is a fair measure of a country's health. And there's deep resentment that he didn't allow foreign business interests to dominate this country. I mean, fair?
Speaker 1: The Russians had their own concept how they would like to be integrated into the world economy. And that concept was different from from the American concept and from the European concept as of course. Hungary is part of that. So when we realize what is the new strategy of the Russians, the Hungarian companies went to Russia to make their business. As I'm sure that from The Emirates, they are doing their businesses as well.
And the Saudis and others. So they have a country. They would not like to be isolated. They would be part of the world economy based on the Russian interest, not on the Washington consensus principles or something like that, you know. So, but it's their country.
Whether we like it or not, whether we regret it, it's their country. They make their choice. If it's their decision, we have to adjust ourselves, not to force them to change their mind, you know? It's not our job. At least this is the Hungarian approach.
Probably not the American, but, definitely the the Central European. They are they are too close. Don't forget. They're too close.
Speaker 0: I know you don't forget that. How would you rate Zelensky as the leader of Ukraine?
Speaker 1: So first of all, even if I have many critical remarks, it does not matter, if you take the proper, vantage point to see what has happened in Ukraine in the last years. They decided to go into a war, to defend their own territory, their own right to join NATO, and to be part of the Western architecture, security and economic architecture. That was their decision. And they they fight for it. And they lost hundreds of thousands of lives.
And they they fight heroically. So so I I'm very cautious to make any critical remarks on the president or or or Ukraine because what they have done is really something heroic and historical to resist to that power, right, like Russia for that long time, you know. So it's whatever political mistakes they have done, the fact itself, the fight, you know, and sacrifice is something we have to say that's that's really heroic. Yes. So that's that's number one.
Number two, I think it was a misunderstanding on their behalf, the real intention of the West. And they thought that the West will support them forever. And therefore, their behavior was not exactly as as it would be seen as normal. Because if you are in trouble, you need help, you you are going to somewhere to ask, it's not the right tone as they communicate with us. Anyway, so, but they thought that they can do so because the West will remain behind them forever.
If you understand, well, the history of the West and politics, this is a misconception, may I say. That's not what the West and did, in the last several years. Yeah. No. No.
So I was sure that sooner or later they will be let alone and say, guys, war is over, financial support is over, greater support is over, let's make a deal. Even if you have huge losses, this is the right moment. We would not like to risk World War three. We would not like to risk a direct conflict conflict with Russia, on military fields. So so my my heart is with the Ukrainians, but they are in a big, big, big trouble because of the of the position they have now on this whole this whole issue.
Speaker 0: Many billions of dollars of western weapons have flowed into Ukraine. A lot of them have been sold. It's a fact. And I wonder if you're concerned about the effect on your security of this. I mean, you have lots of weapons floating around anywhere.
It's dangerous. And is anyone keeping track of some of these advanced weapons actually where they are?
Speaker 1: So, just again, very cautiously. And now everybody's seeing that we have a problem called Russia, which is true. But then soon, we will have another problem called Ukraine.
Speaker 0: Yes. So, I think that's right. So the, new defense secretary of The United States, Pete Hegseth, gave a speech, two days ago in which he he started by saying Ukraine is not joining NATO. So that's that's the core that that question was the cause of this war. That's the baseline demand of Russia.
I think it makes intuitive sense to even people who don't like Russia can understand why they want that. So now that The United States has just said that, is that the basis of a peace? What else do we need to get to peace?
Speaker 1: You live in United States, and it's probably difficult to imagine the strength of liberal liberal dictatorship of, public life, we are living under in Europe. So so, you know, the the the pressure from the liberal public opinion is so strong on the leaders that in the last three years, all the European leaders follow the same track. So try to imagine that a big European nation leader says that, we have to support Europe, the Ukraine, whatever does it take. We have to do this is a moral based position. We can't change it.
And they should join NATO and we are arguing in favor of that. And then, just to say next weekend, guys, there are some changes in the world, so our principally based position is over and now, you know, turn like that. Yeah. So to make that change with the present leadership, it's difficult to imagine. I would not like to make nasty jokes, but but, now because of the American decision, it's really time for sober up.
But they are in the phase of redrinking. You know, so so it takes time to to change the direction of the sheep. Just just today, they issued a paper. They issued a statement. The big European nation is saying that they continue as they have done regardless what the Americans have said.
That's just this morning. So
Speaker 0: Are we going to have to invade France? Is that what you're saying? Sorry. Sorry. Just kidding.
No one wants France at this point.
Speaker 1: Sorry. Discussed in another Sorry. Sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Another another forum. Another forum. I totally get it. Optimistically, though, if if you if you believe you know, I think the Trump administration really the president has said it a number of times, we need to end this. Do you think it's possible that we see a, like, a permanent resolution within the next six months?
Is that realistic to answer that?
Speaker 1: Yes. Definitely. Even earlier.
Speaker 0: Really? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think so. You Yeah. Serious guys. So strong man make peace.
Weak man make war. That's so simple. Now we have strong leaders.
Speaker 0: Last question, and I and I appreciate this. And I wanna say before you leave, I I'll just say it. I don't mind sucking up. I I think there's a reason you're the longest serving leader in Europe. I think history, for all the criticism you've taken,
Speaker 1: will Don't forget that I have another record I hold. It's more important. Longest serving leader of opposition in Europe. 16 Years. Just just because I'm just just because I'm accused not to be democratic, you know, don't forget that, okay, nineteen years in government, that's something.
But sixteen years in opposition, and to lead up, that's even more. So I had that record as well. So I know the both side of democracy, the the sunny one and the raining one as well. So I never left politics even I lost the election. So I'm a political animal, who is running a democratic political architecture and machinery in my country.
Sorry for interrupting.
Speaker 0: You enjoy more, honestly.
Speaker 1: When I was in opposition, I had more time to deal with football, which is a real issue anyway.
Speaker 0: Where Where do you think the European public is? You said a couple of times that the behavior of the leadership of of some western nations calls into question democracy itself. Is there accurate public polling information on how Europeans, Spanish, French, Portuguese, Brits, how they actually feel about the war in Ukraine? Do you think
Speaker 1: We do we do run that. So I I run that kind of opinion polls. So I have a view on all European countries. And I can say that the majority is moving, to the peace position. And the pro peace is bigger now.
There's a majority of the pro peace in the European public opinion in general. There are some one or two countries which is exceptional, all the others belonging to the same track, more and more and more for peace. But there is another opinion, Paul, which is even more important. I would not like to to divert this conversation, but but but we run every year and we ask the Europeans, what do you think, about the life of your children? Will they have a better future and better life than you have now or it will be worse?
And, you know, all the Western countries says worse. All the Central European countries says better. So this is the real difference now between inside the continent between the Western countries and the Central European countries. So we still believe ex occupied countries by Soviet Union, Communist dictatorship, regardless of that, we are still believe that we can create a better future for our kids than we live today. But the Westerners think just the opposite of that.
So that's another very interesting structural differences, inside the single market and the European.
Speaker 0: Because your life force is intact.
Speaker 1: Because because that that's fun. But the the other one, you what what we have now, we fight for. We fought for it. Democracy, freedom, you know, the western generations who are now, in power and ruling the countries, when they were born, there was democracy and freedom in the Western part of Europe. I spent twenty six years of my life in communist dictatorship.
I haven't inherited freedom or democracy. We fought for it, you know. We did it. We get it. So we fought for it.
So therefore, we we we are absolutely convinced that we did it not in vain. It was a sense. And we are able to create and build up countries, Central Europe, after forty five years of Soviet occupation and communist dictatorship, which which our kids will enjoy and deserve. So democracy and freedom in central part of in in in Eastern and central part of Europe is a serious thing. It's part of our life.
It's belong to our heart. It's it's a sense of our life. Investor societies, you know, they inherited. It's a given thing. Even the middle class while living, well-being, convenient way of life also.
So it's when we see when you look at the European Union and Europe, don't think that it's, it's the same everywhere. So there are differences. Not just on national basis, but on historical basis as well. And I don't know what is the future of the Western Europe, but I'm totally convinced that Central Europe and Eastern Europe, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Serbia has a definite bright future. I'm sure of that.
Speaker 0: I am too. Mister prime minister, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Elvis wondered. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 0: And hope for the best. Hope that the results will trickle down to hardworking people. I take a very different approach. I believe that the middle class deserves a tax cut, and I believe that we will do a lot for this country by ensuring that we don't
Speaker 1: continue this disastrous tax policy. Miss Don Wins.
Speaker 0: You all will see. You all will see. Type of policy.
Speaker 1: Mister White. You are wealthy. You are worth 20,000,000 to $30,000,000. How do you know about regular people suffering? Do you go shopping, go to Walmart, buy food?
I talk to those people. And you pretend to be a renter in Nashua a few months ago, move back to run through this open state with many sellers from Washington DC insiders. And the millions, $1,000,000, I don't have money to run a TV ad. And you pretend you are poor. Compliment is so so high.
You couldn't save that apartment for other people to rent their next one to go back to your $2,000,000 home in parts, miss. Please don't say that because you do not understand regular people's concern. People crying in my arms on
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CNN Panelist Slams Kamala Harris for 'Completely Made Up' Claim About Florida Slavery Curriculum
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Kamala Harris seems to have a lot of free time as she can read something on Twitter and immediately make a big deal out of it. However, this issue she is addressing is completely made up. I have reviewed the standards and even read the statements from the African American scholars who wrote them. Everyone involved agrees that this is a fabricated issue. It's absurd that this is considered her best moment.
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Speaker 0: It's amazing to me that how little Kamala Harris apparently has to do that she can read something on Twitter one day and be on an airplane the next to make, something literally out of nothing. This is a completely made up deal. I looked at the standards. I even looked at an analysis of the standards in every instance where the word slavery or slave was used. I even read the statement of the African American scholars that wrote the standards, not Ron DeSantis, but the dollars.
Everybody involved in this says this is completely a fabricated issue. And yet look how quickly Kamala Harris jumped on it. So the fact that this is her best moment. A fabricated matter is pretty ridiculous.
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