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Police Officer pulls over Mr. Patriot, tries to get one over on Mr. Patriot. https://t.co/bKu5eDwA3S
Video Transcript AI Summary
Officer Gilpin of the Midland Police Department pulled over the owner of the “Last American Patriot” YouTube channel (Mr. Patriot) after believing Mr. Patriot had his phone out while driving. Mr. Patriot’s cell phone was actually mounted on the dashboard. As Officer Gilpin approached, Mr. Patriot began filming the interaction.
Officer Gilpin initially said he noticed Mr. Patriot with his phone, but when Mr. Patriot corrected him that his phone was not in his hand, Officer Gilpin agreed he may have been mistaken. Mr. Patriot then questioned why he was being held if he was not speeding. Officer Gilpin stated he did have a supervisor and also said he was going to give Mr. Patriot a warning and let him go, but only after Mr. Patriot repeatedly requested a supervisor and refused to provide his license. Mr. Patriot argued that Officer Gilpin had no reason to demand his license absent a traffic infraction and referenced Fourth Amendment concerns.
Mr. Patriot disputed Officer Gilpin’s speeding claim, asserting he was traveling 16 miles per hour when passing the officer, while the posted speed limit was described as either 20 or 25. Officer Gilpin said he did not clock Mr. Patriot and that he did not get radar, stating his interpretation was that Mr. Patriot was speeding because he visually estimated 10% over. Mr. Patriot demanded an exact speed and criticized the officer’s estimate, stating the officer did not know the posted speed limit and thus could not reliably compute the alleged 10% over.
A third officer, Officer Wilson, became involved after Mr. Patriot again asked why he was still detained and accused the officers of lying and seeking his license without a traffic infraction. Mr. Patriot stated he would not surrender his license unless he was being threatened with arrest, and he continued to wait for the requested supervisor. Officer Wilson instructed that verifying a driver’s license was all that was needed, but Mr. Patriot refused to show it.
The transcript then describes Texas Transportation Code section 521.025, which requires drivers to have their license in their possession and display it upon demand, and permits stopping and detaining a person to determine if they have the required license. It also states that officers are prohibited by the Fourth Amendment from stopping individuals without reasonable suspicion to check drivers’ licenses.
After Mr. Patriot refused to show his license again, Officer Wilson allowed him to drive off.
The transcript concludes with discussion of the legal standards for visual speed estimates, noting that an officer does not need to know the exact speed in some circumstances, but that reasonableness depends on whether the estimate is slight or significant excess and may require additional indicia of reliability. It further states that in this situation, Officer Gilpin’s claim was not reliable enough for reasonable suspicion.
Full Transcript
Speaker 2: So the reason why you got pulled over as you passed me, I noticed you had your phone up. No, my phone's right here. Well, maybe it was my mistake, then I was staying correct there.
Speaker 1: Have a good day.
Speaker 2: No, you're not pretty good. You seem to be in a hurry, sir.
Speaker 1: Was I speeding?
Speaker 2: Yes, you were. No, I was not. Okay, you weren't speeding? No, sir. All right, your license, please.
Speaker 0: Officer Gilpin of the Midland Police Department pulled over the owner of the last American Patriot YouTube channel, who we will refer to as Mr. Patriot, because he believed that Mr. Patriot had his phone out while driving. However, Mr. Patriot's cell phone was actually mounted on the dashboard of the vehicle. As Officer Gilpin approached the driver's side window of the vehicle, Mr. Patriot began to film the interaction.
Speaker 1: Do you have me clocked for speeding or did you pull me over for that? Because that's the first time you told me you pulled me over for that. Now you're telling me speeding.
Speaker 2: Let me start over.
Speaker 1: Please do.
Speaker 2: I said I noticed you with your phone. You corrected me. You said your phone was us up. You didn't have your phone in your hand, so I was mistaken.
Speaker 1: So then you got me for something else now.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir. You have a supervisor? I do have a supervisor.
Speaker 1: What did you clock me at?
Speaker 2: Sir, I did not clock you.
Speaker 1: Exactly. So I wasn't speeding. Because I saw you whenever I turned off a Garfield. And I am obviously not going to speed past a cop. Whenever I passed you, I was going 16 miles an hour. It's 25 on these roads. 20 or 25 on these roads.
Speaker 2: My supervisor is quite a distance away. I'm going to give you a warning and let you go. You want to talk to my supervisor? Great. All right. I'll call my supervisor.
Speaker 1: So you're holding me here.
Speaker 2: You asked for your supervisor.
Speaker 1: Because you're asking for my license for no reason because I wasn't speeding. I'm not going to give you my license unless I was speeding.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So if you're good with it and I can drive away, I don't need your supervisor. But if you want my license and you're going to violate my Fourth Amendment, you're absolutely getting your supervisor. Do you want me to call my supervisor? Do you want my license? Yes, I want your license. Your supervisor.
Speaker 2: Sir, those are fellow officers, not my supervisor. Supervisor's outside of town, so he's coming over, okay? Great use of resources there. I'm sorry?
Speaker 1: Great use of resources there.
Speaker 2: Okay, again, you asked for a supervisor, so.
Speaker 1: Well, because you're trying to violate my Fourth Amendment. Sir? Are you or are you not? Why do you need my license if I wasn't speeding? If I didn't commit an infraction, why do you need my license? Visually. You can't pace from sitting still.
Speaker 2: Visually, you came up rapidly behind me. You were speeding. My interpretation, I didn't get your radar, so that is why I told you you were speeding.
Speaker 1: okay you don't you don't know you don't get my license how fast do you think i was going you're going over 10 over the speed limit you're out of your mind bro you're out of your mind so if the speed limit here is 20 is it 20 or 25 i was doing 16. is it 20 or 20 is it 20 or 25 right here if you say you're doing 16 that is your interpretation is it 20 or 25 right here
Speaker 2: I don't know. You tell me.
Speaker 1: You don't know. No, you tell me. Either way. So if it's 20, 10% over would be 22.
Speaker 2: If it's 25, 10% over is 2.5 miles. Okay, so 27.5.
Speaker 1: So you visually saw me going 27.5 miles an hour. You need to get recalibrated, man.
Speaker 0: Officer Gilpin claims that he visually estimated that Mr. Patriot was driving 10% over the speed limit, despite the fact that he did not know what the speed limit on the road was. Mr. Patriot later determined that the speed limit on the road was actually 30 miles per hour, so 10% would have been 3 miles per hour over the speed limit. Courts generally recognize that visual estimates can provide an officer with reasonable suspicion to conduct a traffic stop in some circumstances. For instance, in the 2008 case of Simpson v. the 7th District Court of Appeals of Texas stated that, quote, a police officer does not need to know the exact speed at which an automobile is traveling in order to make a stop for a traffic violation. And that, quote, an officer's visual estimate of a vehicle's speed may be sufficient to give an officer a reasonable suspicion to stop the vehicle. The Fourth Amendment does not allow, and the case law does not support, blanket approval for the proposition that an officer's visual speed estimate in and of itself will always suffice as a basis for probable cause to initiate a traffic stop. Instead, for the purposes of the Fourth Amendment, the question remains one of reasonableness. The court went on to explain that, quote, Critically, the reasonableness of an officer's visual speed estimate depends, in the first instance, on whether a vehicle's speed is estimated to be in significant excess or slight excess of the legal speed limit. If slight, then additional indicia of reliability are necessary to support the reasonableness of the officer's visual estimate. Accordingly, although visual estimates of speed can sometimes be sufficient for an officer to prove they had reasonable suspense to conduct a traffic stop. In this situation, a court would likely conclude that Officer Gilpin's assertion that Mr. Patriot was speeding was not reliable enough for him to have reasonable suspicion.
Speaker 1: Liar, dude. Don't come back up to this car. Get your supervisor.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking to you anymore.
Speaker 1: Not talking to you anymore. You're a liar.
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm wondering why I'm still here. Well, apparently you called for a supervisor. Because he wants my license when I have committed no traffic infraction. When your officer first got up to this vehicle, he said he pulled me with this. Okay. Because that's up there. When that was wrong, then he tells me that I'm speeding. I know for a fact I wasn't. I looked down at 16. The whole time I was behind him and past him, I looked down, I was 16 miles an hour. but he wants to get my license. He says I'm going 10% over the posted speed limit. From a standstill, he knows this. I'm not giving up my license unless you're threatening to take me to jail.
Speaker 3: So you just, what do you want now?
Speaker 1: I want to be for my government and on my way.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: It's not funny.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you sat here waiting for me.
Speaker 1: Because he wouldn't let me go.
Speaker 3: All you need to do is verify that you have a driver's license.
Speaker 1: Not going to do it. He doesn't have a reason to see it.
Speaker 0: section 521.025 of the texas transportation code requires that quote a person required to hold a license shall have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated and display the license on the demand of a peace officer the statute also states that quote a peace officer may stop and detain a person operating a motor vehicle to determine if the person has a driver's license as required by this section. While this provision does seem to allow officers to stop any driver to simply check if they have a driver's license, the Supreme Court has long held such practices to be unconstitutional. Officers are prohibited by the Fourth Amendment from stopping individuals without reasonable suspicion to check their driver's licenses.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. What's your name? Wilson. Wilson. Badge number? Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Speaker 0: After Mr. Patriot again refused to show his driver's license, Officer Wilson allowed him to drive off. Overall, the Midland officers get a C-. for claiming that Mr. Patriot was speeding when Officer Gilpin didn't even know the speed limit, attempting to identify Mr. Patriot without reasonable suspicion, and demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of the Fourth Amendment limitations on when officers can detain citizens. We have reviewed similar interactions on this channel that ended in a much less peaceful resolution, and the Midland officers never threatened Mr. Patriot with arrest or escalated the situation into a physical encounter, maintained a respectful demeanor throughout the interaction, and eventually allowed Mr. Patriot to leave without checking his driver's license. Mr. Patriot gets an A+, for respectfully but firmly standing up for his constitutional rights, waiting for a supervisor instead of providing his driver's license, and taking steps after the interaction to share his experience with the general public. I commend Mr. Patriot for having the courage, constitutional knowledge, and patience to call out the officer's lies and wait for a supervisor, and to stand firm in his refusal to provide his driver's license when there was no reasonable suspicion for the stop.
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