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Four counts of not filing his income tax prompted a question: could someone be innocent and still not file? "In the federal government, it is not a felony not to file taxes." After moving the case to the state, they called IRS Agent Kraner. The defense noted, "I never wrote anything down," even as video showed him taking notes. Mr. Harrell asked, "You show me the law that requires me to file a tax return and I'll be glad to do it," and, "what is the section... what act are we discussing here when I am liable to do these things that you claim I'm liable to do?" Jurors concluded "there is no law" and asked, "Where is the law? Show me the law." The judge promised the law but there was none. Bannister and Kuglund cases followed with acquittals: "24 people were criminally charged by the IRS because they claimed there was no law requiring them to file an income tax return." The jury acquitted all.
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Speaker 0: He was being tried for four counts of not filing his income tax. And our question was, well, what is to decide? Either he did or he didn't. It never occurred to us that he might actually be innocent while at the same time not filing. In the federal government, it is not a felony not to file taxes.
Finally, they said, Okay, if we're going to get this guy, we're going to have to put it in the state. They called up the IRS agent, Agent Kraner.
Speaker 1: Kraner? Yeah. Robert Kraner. This
Speaker 2: is Ken Dougherty who's also an investigator with the
Speaker 1: Lions Department of Roadmap. There's a request for a copy of the delegation of the
Speaker 2: authority order. Right. And I talked to my boss about that and he said that my badge is that.
Speaker 1: Badge is in the authority.
Speaker 0: The last question that the defense asked him was, Did you write any of this down? And Agent Kraner looked right at him and right at us and he said, I never wrote anything down. And yet when we saw the video, there he was writing notes. So I'm thinking, Okay, at this point the judge is supposed to say, Agent Kraner, it is clear that you have committed perjury. It wasn't even noticed.
It finally came to the climax. Mr. Harrell looked right at the prosecutor and he said, I will tell you the same thing I have told over and over again to government officials. You show me the law that requires me to file a tax return and I'll be glad to do it.
Speaker 1: And, again, I have under your father's requirement that you claim and I'm required to do so. And the requirement under the regulations is what section? My question to you is what particular act are we discussing here when I am liable to do these things that you claim I'm liable to do?
Speaker 2: Your exact question would be again? Okay, what is the section that what? But I guess I'm still not understanding your question, mister Harold.
Speaker 1: Well, you must be familiar with what did you that you had the police powers to enforce.
Speaker 0: The prosecutor absolutely ignored him. And he started slandering mister Harrell. Just started attacking his character.
Speaker 3: They're calling us tax chiefs. They're calling us fanatics. They're calling us weirdos. I don't care what you call me, but I have one question. Where is the law?
Show me the law.
Speaker 4: I can't let this turn into a rational debate because if they do, they
Speaker 5: lose it. So they have to insult people and say it's frivolous.
Speaker 0: We felt like that there was an overall arrogance and that they were railroading mister Harrell and wanting us to participate. Judge Coogan, he looked right at us and he said, I will instruct the jury according to the law. We were sent to deliberation. The judge promised us that he would give us the law. And we looked and we looked and it was not there.
We wrote a note to the judge asking for a copy of the law. Ten minutes later, we get a note back. You have everything you need. But there was no law. And he had promised us.
At that point I felt betrayed. I felt like this man promised us the law and that's what this whole thing is about, the law. We request it, and he still denies us the law.
Speaker 6: And the reason they didn't do it was why?
Speaker 0: Because there is no law. Remember, we're talking about the Illinois state law here, which is a law in Illinois. So we got out that law and we read it several times and I said, Okay, wait, wait, wait. You know, because they kept saying, But this is a law in Illinois. And I said, Look at the beginning of the It says, Anyone required to file a federal income tax return is required to file an Illinois tax return.
I said, If it is true that he's not required to file a federal return, then that nullifies the Illinois law. Two people kept saying, But he's going to get by with it. And I said, What is he getting by with but his rights? If there is no law, he's not breaking a law. He's just standing on his rights.
Are we going to deny him that? That's when this one juror sat back and kinda rolled his eyes and he said, you mean we don't have to pay taxes? All of a sudden we realized that this trial was much bigger and the ramifications of this trial were going to be so broad if it actually got out. I mean, it's like we had just discovered this great government secret. And so when we came out for the delivering of the verdict, the judge was, I'm sure, even at this point, I'm sure he still thought we would pass given guilty verdict.
And the reason I say that is because of the look on his face when the first not guilty was read. His face just turned white. I mean, it's like, I don't believe this. The second time, you could hear people out in the audience, just in the courtroom, you know, just going, Wow! You know?
And the judge is just getting red in the face and he was just livid. And the judge got up and left. I sat there and I thought, This truly is a victory for the people. And I have never felt more patriotic. And I knew that we had done the right thing.
I looked at that man, Mr. Harrell, and I thought the system might not work all the time. But this time, for that man, it did.
Speaker 6: In November 2004, the government arrested former IRS criminal investigator Joe Bannister. They charged him with fraud for telling the American people the truth about the income tax laws. The jury obviously agreed with Joe.
Speaker 1: Well, it just showed mister Bannister to be honest and straightforward and working within the law.
Speaker 6: Vernice Kuglund, a federal express pilot, claimed there was no law requiring Americans to file an income tax. She also won in court. 24 people were criminally charged by the IRS because they claimed there was no law requiring them to file an income tax return.
Speaker 1: The fact is neither the judge nor the prosecutor nor the IRS could bring that statute in there because it's not in the books. The jury came back with an acquittal for everyone.