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Proposed hate speech laws are causing concern across Ireland, the UK, Europe, and globally. In Ireland, despite 73% of 3,600 respondents opposing the government's plan to ban hate speech, the government plans to ignore the results. The possession provision in the bill is seen as an attempt to restrict free speech and could lead to jail time for possessing "hateful material." Other countries, including South Africa and Japan, are also grappling with hate speech legislation. The fear is that these laws could be used to silence dissenting voices.

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1. Why Is Free Speech Seemingly Under Attack Across Ireland, UK, Europe & Even Globally Due To Proposed Hate Speech Laws ? It’s almost as if countries are once again in lockstep. New 🧵 1/17

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2. In Ireland in late 2019 members of the general public were given an opportunity to submit their views on whether or not Ireland’s speech laws should be updated. 3,600 people responded with 73% not supporting the government’s plan to ban hate speech. https://gript.ie/hate-speech-consultation-received-mostly-negative-responses/

Hate speech consultation received mostly negative responses - Gript Vast majority of respondents opposed. gript.ie

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3. You would think that 73% would be listened to. Obviously not, as is evidenced by Varadkar’s response when the question was put to him. Naturally Varadkar claimed that often these consultations are hijacked therefore the results should be ignored.

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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar defends disregarding the results of the public consultation on "hate speech" laws, arguing that "very often" such consultations are hijacked by "campaigning groups" and are not "reflective of public opinion." #gript

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The speaker questions why the government conducted a public consultation on hate speech laws if they were going to ignore the results. The government explains that public consultations are done to gather people's thoughts and highlight issues. However, they acknowledge that the majority of people do not participate in these consultations, so it may not reflect public opinion accurately. They also mention that organized campaign groups often submit responses. The speaker asks why hold the consultation if the results are disregarded. The government responds that decisions are made by the elected parliament, not based solely on public consultations or opinion polls. They clarify that consultations are meant to test the temperature and are not just for show.

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Speaker 0: TeeShuk, your government conducted a public consultation regarding hate speech laws where citizens were asked to give their thoughts on the issue, And out of the thousands of responses from private individuals, over 70% were not supportive of such laws and yet you're proceeding with them anyway. So So my question is why did your government bother to do a public consultation if you were just going to ignore the results? Speaker 1: Well, we do public consultations because we think they're they're good practice. It's a way to, find out what people's thoughts are on on issues. And it's also, you know, a way to flesh out and highlight some of the issues we may not have considered. But we're also, you know, wise to the fact that the vast majority of people don't make submissions to public consultations. We have to bear that in mind. It's only a small portion of the population participate in these things, so it's not necessarily reflective of public opinion. And also where why is the fact that very often, submissions are organized and campaign groups will organize responses. So, we're clear with that too. Speaker 0: But but why hold why hold the consultation if the the end result is just gonna be disregarded on the basis that is not representative of Book opinion, what's the point of it then? Speaker 1: Well well, the point is that we're a democracy and in Ireland we have elections and decisions are made by the government and the elected parliament. They're not made on Unfolded public consultations or opinion polls. That's not what they're about. They're about testing the temperature. Speaker 0: So is so is it just for show then? Speaker 1: No.

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4. In other words the Irish government were just going through the motions asking the public and were going to pay no attention to the results anyway. So much for democracy. So what is in this bill that is causing such heated debate ?

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5. The bill is being framed as trying to protect minorities but when you look closer at the ‘possession’ provision the real purpose of it is to restrict the views of the masses. Possessing hateful material on your phone, iPad, computer etc means you could face jail time.

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6. In a nutshell they are trying to scare people from holding beliefs that are not state approved. If you agree with the narrative it is free speech whereas if you disagree with the narrative it is hate speech. In essence it is a thought crime bill which is shockingly draconian.

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7. Why is it that Irish mainstream media are being so silent on this ? GRIPT seems to be the only publication asking the hard questions. It was only when Elon Musk & Jordan Peterson got wind of it due to a tweet from @KeithWoodsYT that MSM came out of hiding.

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8. However it was left to the UK’s Daily Telegraph to really expose the bill for what it is and called Varadkar “shameless” and having “contempt” for the Irish people. The Irish Daily Mirror said it was “straight out of Orwell’s 1984 novel” https://archive.ph/Tcbw6 https://archive.ph/Tcbw6

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9. However Ireland does not seem to be the only country who is dealing with “hate speech” issues. You have to look no closer than what happened in Austria last week to see the potential direction this can go. Martin Sellner appeared in court last week over allegations of....

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10... "hate speech" for a Telegram post he wrote last year. Sellner faced up to 3 yrs in jail for his comments that asylum centers in Germany "pose a danger" to children. The judge clearly ruled that Martin didn’t commit “hate speech” and freed him.

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11. Even though the Telegraph spoke out on behalf of Irish citizens (when Ireland's own media didn't) the UK also has its own "hate speech" issues to contend with. A teacher discovered she had been secretly recorded by police for non-crime ‘hate speech’. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11881083/Feminist-teacher-wins-battle-overturn-police-hate-incident-accused-transphobia.html

Teacher overturns 'hate incident' after 'transphobia' accusation Cathy Kirby, 57, from Norwich, had police officers contact her after trans activists claimed her posts on Twitter were 'transphobic'. dailymail.co.uk

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12. This isn't just a European issue as is evidenced by the fact that South Africa is actively engaging with a "hate speech" bill and has a working draft. The idea behind the bill was to have a new crime of hate speech. https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/623759/new-hate-speech-laws-coming-for-south-africa-including-legal-trouble-for-whatsapp-messages/ https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/623759/new-hate-speech-laws-coming-for-south-africa-including-legal-trouble-for-whatsapp-messages/

New hate speech laws coming for South Africa – including legal trouble for WhatsApp messages Parliament’s portfolio committee on justice and correctional services has responded to public comments on the Prevention and Combating of Hate Crime and the Hate Speech Bill. businesstech.co.za

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13. It defines the following offences: • Hate crime – when a person commits any recognised offence motivated by prejudice or intolerance; • Hate speech – when a person publishes or shares statements that intend to be harmful or incite harm.

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14. The bill also makes it an offence to distribute hate speech material in cyberspace – digitally or on digital channels, such as Whatsapp. “If you’re the admin of a WhatsApp group, because of this recent change, you become legally responsible for everything that appears”

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15. In Japan, the Liberal Democratic Party's Eri Alfiya said "Hate Speech will not be neglected. Laws and regulations are necessary" Question is what will the laws and regulations be. https://t.co/wfSQRc5cuY

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Well isn't this interesting 🧐 At the same time that the LGBT law is going to be potentially passed in Japan they are already talking about introducing hate speech laws. Forgot the slippery slope Japan is sliding to adopt all the West's problems. 🙄

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16. We seem to be at the tip of the iceberg. Ireland would seem to be the testing ground for Europe with many other countries hot on their heels. It’s almost as if countries are getting their orders from above & they’re all falling into line. I wonder from where ? WEF perhaps

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17. You know the drill I write these in my spare time and would really appreciate if you could retweet the very 1st tweet. Likes are great but retweets are required to reach as large an audience as possible to expose what is really going on behind the scenes. Many thanks.