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Saved - December 10, 2024 at 10:53 AM
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I believe that mass immigration won't solve world poverty and instead serves a different agenda, which I see as a threat to White populations. I reference Bari Weiss for insights on the origins of mass immigration. Additionally, I highlight Eli Yishai's views on immigration into Israel, where he suggests making life difficult for those who cannot be deported. I also mention how refugees are prepared for their arrival in new countries, with surprising support upon their arrival.

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We'll never come close to putting a dent in world poverty through mass immigration, the real agenda is to eliminate the White people in these countries. Jews push the mass immigration, if you find that statement as antisemitic, there's 2 videos below of them saying it theirselves.

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Mass immigration to the United States does not significantly reduce global poverty. Since 1990, the U.S. has accepted about 1 million legal immigrants annually, but this is negligible compared to the 3 billion people worldwide living on less than $2 a day. Most immigrants come from relatively better-off populations, not the poorest. Even doubling immigration to 2 million would not make a noticeable difference and could harm vulnerable groups in the U.S. The real change agents are those who stay in their home countries to improve conditions. With millions more being born into poverty each year, immigration cannot effectively address global suffering. The focus should be on helping people where they live, as 99.9% will never be able to immigrate to wealthier nations.
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Speaker 0: Some people say that mass immigration into the United States can help reduce world poverty. Is that true? Well, no. It's not. And let me show you why. This gumball represents the 1,000,000 legal immigrants that the United States has taken every year on average since 1990. Now, who in the world deserves our humanitarian compassion? The World Bank has one measure of the desperately poor of the world. They make less than $2 a day. And how many people make less than $2 a day in the world? We'll start with Africa. In Africa alone, there are 650,000,000 people who make less than $2 a day. 650,000,000. And in India, another 890,000,000 people, desperately poor. China adds another 480,000,000 people, making less than $2 a day. And unfortunately, the rest of Asia has a heartbreaking 810,000,000 people who the World Bank says make less than $2 a day. And finally, there's 105,000,000 of Latin America's population that are desperately poor. All told, the World Bank says there are 3,000,000,000 people in the world, 3,000,000,000 people who are desperately poor, making less than $2 a day. That's 3,000 gumballs. And every year, we take a million and suggest that we've somehow made a humanitarian difference. Of course, we don't pull our immigrants from these desperately poor populations, do we? These people are too poor, too sick, too disconnected to make it here as immigrants. We tend to pull our immigrants out of the better off poor of the world. And Mexico tends to define the type of immigrant that we bring here because the plurality of people come from Mexico. And Mexico is poor. How many people in the world live in countries that have average incomes lower than that of Mexico? And the World Bank tells us that that number is these 3,000,000,000 plus another 2.6 1,000,000,000 people. 5,600,000,000 people in the world who live in countries with average incomes below that of Mexico. That's 5,600 gumballs. And so what is it that the elites are telling us? They're telling us that when we take this 1,000,000 immigrants, that we somehow or another are tackling world poverty. And we have to do it regardless of the effect on our unemployed, the working poor, the most vulnerable members of our society, regardless of the effect on our natural resources. Even if we went by the most radical proposals in Washington, which are to actually double our immigration to 2,000,000 a year, which would totally overwhelm our physical, natural, and social infrastructures, we couldn't make a noticeable difference. And we may be really hurting the impoverished people of the world because the million that we do take are among the most energetic, often the better educated. Certainly, the most dissatisfied people that if they did not immigrate would be the agents for change to improve the lot of all the people in these countries. The true heroes in the global humanitarian field are the people in these countries who have the wherewithal to immigrate to another country, but instead stay in their countries to apply their skills to help their fellow countrymen. Unfortunately, our immigration system tends to entice these very type of people to abandon their countrymen. The impossibility of making even a dent is actually worse than it looks here because last year, when we took 1,000,000 immigrants, these countries added, burst over deaths, 80,000,000 more people into the impoverished population. And this year, Congress is bringing in a 1000000 legal immigrants. And this year, according to the United Nations, these countries are expected to add another 80,000,000 people. And next year, you could be quite sure that Congress, unless stopped by the American voters, will bring in another 1,000,000 immigrants. And these countries, unfortunately, will be adding another 80,000,000 people into these impoverished nations. We could take 5,000,000 a year, but we'd never get ahead of what's happening in these countries, not in this century. Don't you see? Immigration can never be an effective or significant way to deal with the suffering people of the world. They have to be helped where they live. 99.9% of them will never be able to immigrate to rich country. There's no hope for that. They have to bloom where they're planted. The only place that 99.9% of these people can be helped is where they live. Let's help them there.

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Where does the mass immigration come from? Listen to Bari Weiss. https://t.co/F3hleWwICx

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The Jewish connection to refugees is a source of pride, not a conspiracy. The organization Hyas, which Robert Bowers targeted, has been helping refugees since the 1880s, originally assisting Jews fleeing Eastern European pogroms. Today, it supports both Jews and non-Jews escaping persecution worldwide. Recently, a Jewish man from Cairo shared how he was helped after the 1967 war. A synagogue in Arizona participated in Refugee Shabbat, highlighting the Jewish value of welcoming the stranger and supporting the most vulnerable, particularly refugees.
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Speaker 0: Well, that's the thing. The Jewish connection to the refugee is not a conspiracy. That's something that we're very, very proud of. The organization that Robert Bowers was constantly calling out is an organization called Hyas, which brought people including Sergey Brin to this country. It started in the 18 eighties to bring Jews who were fleeing the pogroms of Eastern Europe. Now they help Jews and non Jews all over the world fleeing persecution. I met a man in Arizona on Sunday, a Jew from Cairo who was helped out of Egypt following the 1967 war. This synagogue exemplified those values. It participated in something called refugee Shabbat, the previous Saturday. It was one of the participating synagogues nationally. And the concept, you know, as in all Jewish synagogues, that reflect the most sacred of Jewish values is the value of of welcoming the stranger, and especially of welcoming, the weakest in our community, which there's no weaker category in our in our society than the refugee.

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Now listen to how they feel about immigration INTO Israel. Eli Yishai says “if we can’t deport them we will make their lives miserable.” You’ll also hear how they teach refugees how to act so they get into countries, & usually when the refugees arrive in the new European country, you won’t believe who is there to greet them ✡️.

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Israel's anti-infiltration law, established in 2012, led to the creation of the Huwot Detention Center, aimed at making life difficult for migrants until they voluntarily leave. Migrants were offered flight tickets and a $3,500 incentive to depart, often to unnamed third countries, later revealed to be Uganda and Rwanda. Many migrants faced severe hardships, including human trafficking and violence, during their journeys to Europe, where they were recognized as refugees. Despite living in Israel for years, they were labeled infiltrators. Additionally, there are efforts to assist refugees by teaching them how to present their stories effectively, emphasizing the importance of consistency and emotional expression in their narratives. Meanwhile, Israeli volunteers provide support to migrants arriving in Greece, offering essential aid and comfort.
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Speaker 0: So one of the things during the years is that Israel decided if we can't send them back to their country of origin, we're gonna try and send them somewhere else. So part of this anti infiltration law that was established in 2012 was the opening of something called the Huwot Detention Center. And mister Elie Isai, who was the interior minister at 2012, stated very clearly what the intention was. He said if we can't deport them, we will make their lives miserable until they choose to voluntarily leave. And so what would happen was people would be summoned to the Halot Detention Center, and they would be given a nice brochure, in the other hand, which said voluntary leave. Speaker 1: The detention facilities under construction are set to house between 8 to 10000 illegal migrants. Ishaev vowed that he'd work to expel all migrants who are not legitimate refugees, which he said includes all but a small number of over 60,000 migrants currently in Israel. He added that more detention facilities must be built in order to make the message clear, that it is not possible to enter the country illegally. Speaker 0: You can, if you would like, go back to your country or go to another country that we have organized for you. We will play for the flight ticket, and we will also give you a $3,500 departure gift, and, you can go, and start your life there. The third country was never mentioned what it was. It was another African country that Israel had organized for them. As soon as Israel started sending people to 3rd countries, we at the the hotline, the organization where I work for, began monitoring what is really going on in these 3rd countries. The state never said what the name is. Even to people who were leaving, they never had any documentation until they arrived in the airport that said where they were going. And we knew that they were going to Uganda and Rwanda. They passed a, it was just a policy amendment saying that, they are gonna issue deport deportation orders to the third countries. And anyone who doesn't comply, they're gonna put them in a proper detention closed detention, not like this open Hulat detention center that they had created, in a proper closed detention center, until they agreed to leave. So they had been smuggled from Rwanda to Uganda, then to South Sudan, Sudan, Libya, across the Mediterranean, and to Europe. Every single one of them had either been given refugee status in Europe or were waiting to hear, from their refugee claim in Europe. Where in Israel, they had been called infiltrators over and over. In Europe, they were found to be refugees. The report based on these 19 testimonies said the conclusion was that throughout the journey, the refugees were subject subjected to human trafficking, incarceration, the threat of forcible deportation to Eritrea, harsh conditions of starvation, violence, slavery, and torture camps in Libya, and the dangerous crossing of the Mediterranean Sea from Libya to Europe. Many witnessed the death of fellow travelers. Among the dead were others who had left Israel voluntarily. It says in the report that 18 of the 19 interviews were conducted in Hebrew. There is today in Europe a Hebrew speaking Eritrean Diaspora of people who lived for anywhere between 5 to 10 years in Israel, who learnt the language, who worked, who paid taxes, who lived amongst us, and then were sent away. Speaker 2: Teach them how to write a little dream. Sometimes it's, like, as simple as this, and then how to tell their story, like, how to frame it, how to, literally explain it, and how to just, like, keep their private emotions and their private trauma private because all of this acting is a shield. I like how to curse people up with the physicality. Yeah. I see it like, I tell them that this is, acting. All of this is active. All activism is necessary. So for them to go through, they want to have their kids in the area. And that is the refugee and trauma because these Yazoo officers are so fucking stupid. They're all they know. But in the paper, Yazoo says this is refugee and trauma. They have these characteristics. So we coach people how to have these characteristics. So, like, there's a formula we came up with that on because that's not the formula. But it's, like, significant events, patient information. So I don't know why. I answered all that questions. And that way, you have the, events of the date in the location. Speaker 3: So you give them the first time and they kept it to be Speaker 2: a tight short answer as well rather than rambling about the much harder to repeat because exactly. Right? Yeah. And it's much harder to repeat because exactly. Because you have you have all the elements in there. Like, our narrative timeline format, like, has a little bit of a blank session at this point. And then we have, like, 2 examples of the home country being a significant day for that location. And then ditto for turkey and ditto for turkey. So consistency is the most important thing. Even if you find yourself in a position where you have to lie because you still even remember something else, that's just what you would say. Speaker 3: And they put in the Speaker 2: decision of whether or not you're acting with emotion. So you have to be there or crying or sobbing or throwing up or asking verbally. So it's, it's become an answer. Office, how should I introduce myself, how should I get her over, and then how do I sit down, and then when do I stand up, when do I show them how to bring Speaker 3: their hair down. Why would you need to Speaker 2: start the piano part? Well, because it's a good it's a good way to show, honestly, not in other places too. Like, not good places to see if you would be what you say you are. You can't show how you play. Driving the first vehicle. All of a sudden, you'll say, you'll actually be persecuted. But And you should probably know how to be. This is they also ask, like, what did they call it in? So, like, some people just say, like, Christmas. But, like, we explained, you can't just say this because it's not sufficient to say what you said. And you have to say it a certain way to, like, December 25th, which is Christmas. This is the first day of work to stay there. Speaker 4: Waiting to help them on the beaches of Greece are the last people the Syrians might expect. Volunteers from Israel. We protect them, feed them, clothe them, and comfort them. We are Israelis.
Saved - November 2, 2024 at 3:51 PM

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Why don’t they ever wanna talk about usury? All I see is rampant usury, the Christians are not in control of the US. https://t.co/LiPwhNWWQC

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Usury, or lending money at interest, was historically illegal in Christian nations, leading to Jewish individuals filling that role. Over generations, this resulted in significant economic power for Jews, prompting kings to expel them repeatedly. This cycle of exclusion occurred across various countries for centuries, contributing to the Jewish diaspora. Napoleon highlighted the dangers of compound interest, suggesting it could lead to widespread property loss. Today, debt slavery has replaced traditional forms of slavery, with credit card debt and student loans binding individuals financially. Pareto's principle observed that a small percentage of families owned most of the land, coinciding with the rise of modern banking in Italy.
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Speaker 0: Called usury. Usury is illegal. So in Christian nations, lending money for an interest rate was illegal. So because it was illegal for the Christians, who did the lending? The Jews. So there was Christians who could lend for 0% or no didn't lend at all. And then these people called the Jews would come over and start lending money. They would start charging money. And in a couple generations, guess what would happen to the economy? The Jews owned everything. And then guess what the king did? Rounded them up and threw them out of the country. Then they go to the next country and what would they do? Same thing. And what would that king do? Round them up, kick them out of the country. This went on for 1000 of years. This is this is why the Jews in history have had no country because the king would have the they would say, no usury, no money lending, and they would start the money lending. They would start the central bank to compete with the king. The king would kick them out. They go to the next country, do it again. So this has happened over and over and over again because this quote right here from Napoleon, he's he would show the compound interest tables and he said in a very short amount of time, compound interest would eat up every piece of property in France. In fact, I'm gonna show you how powerful compound interest is. Very scary thing. And there's a reason why it was illegal. Illegal, illegal, illegal in the Christian nations and the Christian philosophy because it would literally enslave people. Guys, the interest on credit cards enslave people today. Does student loans enslave people today? We no longer have forced slavery. We have debt slavery now. It is no longer forced slavery. There's not a mass with a whip whipping you anymore to pick cotton or something like that or build wallets or whatever you're doing, build boats, all sorts of slavery. We now have debt slavery where somebody prints money and you now have to pay the money back plus interest. K. So Pareto's principle. In Italy, an economist named Pareto noticed that 80% of the land was owned by the families. The start of modern banking was in Italy. You got population there.
Saved - September 4, 2024 at 11:42 AM

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Hollywood & the adult entertainment industry was created by jews. Don’t call me antisemitic, here’s a video of a jewish man saying it himself. https://t.co/0KEa4fTIto

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In the early 1900s, German Jewish immigrants, facing antisemitism that limited their access to other industries, significantly influenced the adult entertainment industry, considered a "seedier cousin" to Hollywood, which already had Jewish involvement. By the 1960s and 70s, figures like Dan Maman and Danny Skura were prominent, followed by Reuben Sturman, an Orthodox Jew and the speaker's godfather, who revolutionized the industry. Sturman controlled distribution through his 200 bookstores and taxed others to carry his product. Jews later dominated the manufacturing side, creating companies for replicating and printing adult content, essential due to mainstream printers' refusal to handle such material. Sturman died in prison for tax evasion after evading obscenity charges. In the 1970s, many male performers were Jewish, while female performers were often Roman Catholic. Performers like Ron Jeremy and Hershel Savage entered the industry partly to "fuck Roman Catholic chicks" and fulfill fantasies. Jewish performers remain prevalent, including James Dean, Joanna Angel, and Daphne Rosen. Business ownership remains largely Jewish, with figures like Steve Hirsch (Vivid) and Steve Warrenstein (Wicked), and many others having Jewish ties or starting under Jewish mentorship.
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Speaker 0: So let's Speaker 1: start with, I think, Mike, maybe you're the best one for this. Maybe the background of Jews and the adult entertainment industry, either from the filmmaking perspective, management perspective, active perspective, viewing perspective. Speaker 0: I know. Speaker 2: I'm sure this is the one Speaker 0: you wanna think. I also wanna toss on it also. I'm curious. Speaker 2: I didn't hear that. Jews in the adult Speaker 0: industry, the there's a lot of them. Speaker 2: It was pretty much founded by the adult industry. Or I'm I'm sorry. Speaker 0: The Jews the adult I Speaker 2: had a couple of years. The adult industry was pretty much founded by the Jews. Basically, in the early 1900, the the German Jewish immigrants came in. And when they were trying to get into different industries, there was a lot of antisemitism where they couldn't, get into normal ends of work. Speaker 0: I'm not saying that porn's not normal. But, Speaker 2: so they gravitated towards the porn industry because it's like kind of the seedier cousin of the Hollywood industry, which had already been controlled by the Jews. And basically, they pretty much just took it over. If you look at the the big stars did I break my chair already? No. Thanks. Okay. So basically back in, you know, the 19 sixties, seventies, it was founded by people like Dan Maman, Danny Skura. And then later in the eighties, you know, the the godfather of the modern day porn industry, his name was Reuben Sturman, Who was actually an Orthodox Jew. He owned over 200 bookstores all around the country. He's actually my godfather, which is kinda weird. But, so, Reuben Sturman what they what the Jews did pretty much was they revolutionized the adult industry and made it their own. So there was no space for antisemitism, and they basically controlled everything. So back in the eighties, the only way you could get pornography was to go through someone like Reuben Sturman. And he controlled, you know, all of his stores and all the stores that, that he didn't own. They had actually had to pay him a tax, to carry his product. And he was the only place that you get product from peep shows from. And later, what the Jews did was, they started the manufacturing end of the business. There were a lot of Italians that were coming into the business, but what they did was they created the manufacturing side, which is the replication, the printing. Because back in the day, if you wanted to make a VHS or a beta tape or whatever, you couldn't go down to Kinko's or any mainstream printer and be like, I wanna print, you know, gang bang my mom number 3. I promise I would. That works too. We haven't done that Speaker 0: yet, but Speaker 2: So what they did was they created all these companies that manufactured DVDs and VHS and beta and printing. And all the companies pretty much had to go through the Jews. So, Reuben Sermon actually eventually he died in prison. Not from they tried to get him from obscenity back in the eighties, which was a big thing. And, it actually still is a risen obscenity risk today. But, he eventually died in prison because of tax evasion because he didn't want your taxes. So, you know, it has that we talk. Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Choose the money is the next tab we talk. I mean, next year. Rabbi? Speaker 1: So let's follow that up, with the relationship between the Jews who got involved in this industry because they couldn't get involved in mainstream and Hollywood. And their relationship with non Jews then were in this industry. Was there a stigma? Because while they did control a variety you know, historically, control a lot of this industry, was there a stigma about those who are actively, let's say, making the films about being Jewish in this movie? Was there a stigma within it? And was there a stigma from other Jews who are in the community? And where is that at today versus historically? Speaker 2: Let let me just answer that question with back in the seventies, the majority of the male porn performers were Jewish. And the majority of the female performers were Roman Catholic. Speaker 0: And if Speaker 2: you look at the names from, like, the classic porn stars, we got Ron Jeremy, which isn't really Jewish, but you have Hershel Savage. But it's it's it's kinda funny because those guys came into the industry. And I I actually asked a couple of them because I I asked Ron Jeremy. And I was like, why did you guys, you know, decide to go into the porn industry? Like, what was it that drew you? And besides like, the obvious, they're like, I got to fuck Roman Catholic chicks. And fulfill every fan I'm I'm sorry. Speaker 1: No. It's okay. Speaker 2: Fornicate. And we feel like every fantasy that every Jewish boy has ever had. So, I think I think that the Jewish performers, they've always been really prevalent in the industry. Even now Ron Jeremy is Speaker 0: still, you know, like, one of the most well known performers. James Dean, Speaker 2: Joanna Angel, Daphne performers. James Dean, Joanna Angel, Daphne Rosen. Speaker 0: And there's Speaker 2: there's a bunch of them. And for the most part, the the business side is still controlled by Juice. You have Steve Hirsch, who runs Vivid. You have Steve Warrenstein, who runs Wicked. You have me, who runs the biggest foreign company in the world. 2nd. There you go. But for the most part, you know, all the all the business owners are are pretty much Jewish or have Jewish ties or at some point worked for a Jew in the foreign business and gave them their their start. So, I forgot what the question was, but I hope I answered it. Speaker 0: You did. I read it. Hey. Speaker 2: So that was I mean, that's what I wanted to add is there's, like, a lot of feminist porn that I don't know if you can call that Jewish pornography.

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Or call me antisemitic, the word means nothing anyway.

Saved - August 7, 2024 at 6:21 AM
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I came across a 1940 NY Times article discussing a New World Order pledge to Jews. It reminded me of a statement made by Major General George Van Horn Moseley in 1938, which adds an intriguing historical context to the conversation.

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New World Order Pledged To Jews - NY Times October 6th, 1940.

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https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1940/10/06/issue.html

TimesMachine: Sunday October 6, 1940 - NYTimes.com timesmachine.nytimes.com

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Major General George Van Horn Moseley said this in 1938, interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Van_Horn_Moseley#cite_note-Bendersky255-12

George van horn moseley - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org
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They lied about Adolf, and I've noticed a lot of anger surrounding this topic. My favorite movie used to be Inglorious Bastards, but I can't watch it anymore after learning more. There’s a thread with over 20 sources questioning the Holocaust, and some people have faced serious consequences for their views. I came across an article from 1940 discussing a New World Order pledged to Jews, which I found interesting. Since my video gained unexpected attention, I invite Holocaust believers to debunk the claims, as some Israelis feel the Holocaust is misused in the Diaspora.

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They lied about Adolf. https://t.co/JUruQICJsh

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If anyone is genuinely curious, I noticed a lot of people are mad haha, let me start by saying my favorite movie not long ago was Inglorious Bastards, knowing what I know now, I’ll never watch the 💩 again. There’s probably 20+ sources in this thread, most of them got sent to prison.

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A massive thread questioning The Holocaust. 🧵⬇️ https://t.co/gKoKEdBvQ0

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Oh what’s this?

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New World Order Pledged To Jews - NY Times October 6th, 1940. https://t.co/7Q2c9TzvnJ

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Interesting….. https://t.co/NvgGeF5R8X

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Since this video got more eyes than expected, debunk all of this, Holocaust believers & jew lovers.

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“Many Israelis feel offended by the way in which the Holocaust is exploited in the Diaspora. They even feel ashamed that the Holocaust has become a civil religion for Jews in the United States.” “There’s no business like the Shoa business.” -Jacobo Timerman, a jewish man. https://t.co/SJdE1N4H6K

Saved - July 27, 2024 at 6:33 AM

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Ernst Zündel - (AVOF 37) Cremation Technology & The Holocaust. https://t.co/KQUVwKifwN

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Ernst Zundel, President of Sammis Lab Publishers, discusses his involvement in the reprinting of the booklet "Did 6,000,000 Really Die?" and his subsequent trial for Holocaust denial. He presents the testimony of Ivan Lagasse, a crematory expert, who challenges the claims of the Holocaust by explaining the process of cremation and the limitations of the crematory units. Lagasse states that the high numbers of cremations alleged at Auschwitz-Birkenau are physically unrealistic and scientifically unsupported. He also refutes claims of a stench from burning bodies and the ability to determine the ethnicity of the victims based on the color of the smoke. Zundel concludes that the standard version of the Holocaust is a hoax and encourages further research on the topic.
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Speaker 0: I'm Erud Sundu, President of Sammis Lab Publishers Limited in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. To those of you who have never seen a showroom by us before, you will wonder why I'm holding up this booklet, Did 6,000,000 Really Die? Well, this booklet dominated 9 years of my life. I had reprinted it, it was the work of an English author, I reprinted it in Canada, distributed it widely to members of parliament, to clergy, engineers, historians and so on and found myself charged by the President of the Holocaust Remembrance Association of Toronto in 1983. She was a Jewish woman called Sabina Citron. I had been researching and investigating the wild claims surrounding the Holocaust story with some skepticism and had casually talked to engineers and people involved in fumigation of buildings and so on and came to the conclusion that not all was true as concerned the Holocaust. And so when I was charged finally, I had to concentrate my mind on proving that there were some things wrong and did NOK6 1,000,000 really die. And so I dispatched a researcher to the local Toronto Crematory, which is within 500 meters walking distance of where I live and work. And the crematory operator there confirmed a number of my suspicions. Yes, he said it took quite a while to create a body and even with modern equipment, it could take up to 2 hours per body. And yes, is that it is not true that there is a smell in the air as many of the Holocaust writers and alleged victims and eyewitnesses had claimed that they could smell the stench of burning human bodies from the crematory. Is it totally untrue that for over 130 years, there was no smell associated with the cremation of bodies. That of course was a revelation to me and I thought that a crematory operator, an expert from Toronto could easily come to the court and testify. Well, it wasn't so easy. He kindly but firmly declined because he said it would not be very good for his career and so on. So then I spoke to my attorney and I said, well, how about if we ask the court to go to the crematory, meaning the jury, the judge, the court clerks, the prosecution and himself and myself and that then we could all together witness a cremation, which is sometimes done to go to not the scene of the crime, but the scene of some action. However, my legal advisors, my attorney and other advisers suggested that, that would be such an outrageous act and it would seem callous and so on that I should not do it, it would backfire on me. Well, finally, I was persuaded by that argument and, cast around to find a crematory expert that could help me and give some expert testimony. I found this man in the person of a man called Ivan Lagasse and Ivan Lagasse's testimony is contained in this book about my trial, it's called Did You Will Die? The Evidence in the Ernst and Young Holocaust Trial in 1988. You will find it in Page 267 to Page 271. And I'll just quickly quote some background of Ivan Lagaest, the man who finally became my expert on Crematory's and we say here that he testified April 5th April 6, 1988 and his testimony can be found in volume 27 of the court transcripts of my 1988 trial, if you want to verify what I'm going to tell you in a minute. Ivan Nagase was tendered as an expert in the practical aspects of crematorium practice. Nagase worked as a professional embalmer funeral director and crematory manager Humber College in Ontario Humber College in Ontario and in 1979 obtained his diploma in Ontario license. In 1983, he obtained his Alberta license. You can find that in volume 27, pages 7,383 to 7,394 in the court transcripts of my 1988 trial, date April 5 April 6, 1988. The fact that he is an expert is borne out as we continue on Page 268. In the course of his career, Lageis had dealt with over 10,000 bodies in his work and had cremated over 1,000 bodies himself. The work involved bodies in a variety of physical conditions from accident and fire victims to people who died of highly contagious diseases. Now he used flow charts to explain to the jury, which are for a layman, the process of cremation. He brought along fire bricks and he let them feel it and touch it, lift it in order to show what kind of material was involved. He also pointed out that these fire bricks are extremely expensive, costing up to $60 for 1 brick and that, therefore, it is a very costly matter if the operator isn't very careful or if the cremation retort is crowded. He was asked to look at the blueprints that we had obtained of the Bokenau Auschwitz Bokenau cremation area. And he indicated after studying it with amazement that the Bow Valley Crematorium where he was the director of and using overhead slides, he pointed to the crematory's cremation chamber, the flame port, the smoke channel and settling chamber and the afterburner. And he testified that it was obvious that the Germans were concerned with environmental effects of the crematory. La Gaze also found the most amazing and unique part of the Birkenau Crematory to be the stack, calculated to be 45 feet high and therefore very similar to Beau Valley Crematorium stack. In Lagege's opinion, the rate of burn of the Birkenau unit would be as efficient, but not more than his own unit in Calgary. Now I want to be absolutely sure that you understand this. We are talking here the Germans 19 41, 2, 3, 4 technology, and he is working in 1988 at that time in the Bow Valley Crematory in Calgary, Alberta. So the Germans had in those concentration camps state of the art crematories, which were not surpassed anywhere at that time in the world. And Lageis was saying the only difference was the Germans used coal fired crematories, whereas in Canada, they used natural gas. Now this is an advantage because a coal fired crematory, of course, the ashes are in there, they are glowing, they are hot and you cannot at will cool it down, whereas in a Canadian or North American crematory, you can if you use natural gas because just what you do is you turn the flame down and finally turn the flame off and so the cooling process is much faster. So potentially, in a Canadian crematory, you could reach much higher cremation rates. And then he was asked about the Holocaust claims of numbers of cremations at Auschwitz Birkenau. And Lageries commented on Raul Hilberg's claiming the destruction of European Jews, 2nd edition page 978, capacities of the 46 retorts in the 4 crematories at Wirgenau. And he said, quoting Doctor. Hilberg, the theoretical daily capacity of the 4 Wirgenau crematory was somewhat over 4,400 persons or cadavers, but with break downs and slowdowns, the practical limit was almost always lower. Laguerre stated that this claim was ludicrous. Based on his own experience, Laguerre testified that it would only have been possible to create a maximum of 184 bodies a day in Bergenau. So the words that he used is preposterous, beyond the realm of reality, ludicrous. And then he was asked by the defense attorney my defense attorney, Di Chrystie, about Riedlinger, who claimed 6,000 a day to be cremated, others who claimed 8,000 people were burned. And some of them said 24,000 were handled a day. To this, Ivan Lagaest, the Canadian crematory expert says, it was irresponsible. These people were irresponsible with their facts because this doesn't even begin to end the reality at all. It is just physically unrealistic. Physically unrealistic. In other words, science dares to say the Holocaust, as we have heard it, is basically a hoax because if the story of this massive burning and so on is untrue, The people who claim these ridiculously high numbers of victims have to explain where the bodies went or where they wear or where the mass graves are. They have no answers. Then they take refuge, of course, sometimes in burning pits. And the burning pits simply are equally untrue. A, I looked at all kinds of aerial photographs of these camps. There are no burning pits, there is no smoke rising from open burning pits, which you certainly would have to see because you see everything else. You see steam coming from a locomotive, why would you not see smoke coming from 4000 or 10000 burning bodies. Also, there are no mountains of coals near the crematory that would be necessary or near the burning pits, they're not there. And Lageries makes another good point is that the Germans had this unique construction of crematories at Auschwitz and there were 3 retorts built next to one another. He said that's very efficient and it is cheaper to build a crematory like that, but if one brick in one unit became defective, cracked or broke, and therefore, it would paralyze all 3 units. So what seemed efficient at first is very costly and time consuming and expensive after because not only can you not cremate in the one that is damaged, but you cannot cremate in the 2 adjacent ones because you cannot have 2,200 Degrees Fahrenheit radiating around, while the next site is being constructed. Also he said, after crematory, retort is being repaired. It takes between 3 4 weeks to cure it, and you can only start to cremate people slowly, maybe 1 a day or maximum 2 a day and so on rather than 1 every 2 hours or 2.5 hours. That's the reality. Science has proven that the standard version that you and I hear in Hollywood films or see on television shows or read in these survival books or are exposed to at the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC are in effect, if not bold faced outright lies, they are certainly fanciful tales told by people who report hearsay rumors from a 50 year ago wartime situation. Inform yourself, you can get information and books and videos about this topic from us at Sami Stat Publishers and we'll be glad to send them to you. I am Ernst Sendel, thanking you for your time. Au Vida Zen. Speaker 1: I'd like to welcome everybody. I brought you here to our crematorium that I myself am in charge of in operating. And I wanted you to experience what a modern crematory is, and rather than explain with a lot of words, I preferred that I demonstrate, so we decided to videotape this, this evening, just so that you can get a very good picture as to what we're dealing with here. Now basically the process of cremation, if you think of the human body as being basically mostly comprised of water, the best way to describe the process of cremation would be rapid oxidization of the human body by exposure to heat or flame. So we're not actually burning anything. The first stage of cremation is dehydration. We have to burn off all the water by evaporation, which is a cleaner part of the cremation because water just produces steam, which doesn't pose a problem. The fats and other body solids are the only part that's really combusted in cremation. What remains is fine bone fragments, which are very brittle because you've removed all of the properties, all the water contents from them and whatnot. Okay, what you're looking at is the inside of the actual cremation hearth itself. This is the chamber that the human remains are placed in, and this is where the main combustion chamber is. If you look at the top right hand corner, you'll see an opening. Now that area leads into what they call an afterburner chamber. This is a typical retort design. Most crematoriums do not stray from this design very much, even from the 1930s model right through to today. So the modern crematory actually in the hearth itself hasn't changed. The only thing that's really changed is the control of the draft, the burners are different. In this one, we're using natural gas, some use oil, the older models, particularly in the 30s, they were fired by coal. Now in this one, the human remains are exposed directly to flame. In the coal fired model, the heat is usually radiated. In other words, the heat is from underneath the floor, the body is not exposed directly to the flame, but it's just exposed to great temperatures and it just combusts on that nature. They are quite a bit slower than these ones because of the nature that we're using gas fired jets and we can expose the body directly to the flame. You'll see the brick is flaking just over here at the side. You can see how fragile it is. I can just knock some of this down. That's normal spalling. The brick from the heat just begins to flake a little bit and a little bit, and that's the way the bricks wear out. Once the brick has worn about halfway through, about 2 inches in, then we have to rebrick the unit. Now rebricking the unit means you have to rebrick the whole thing. If you rebrick the sides, quite often you have to rebrick the ceiling. Sometimes in certain cases you may not if you're using an experienced breaker, but typically you're rebricking the entire machine once you're breaking the sidewalls. Okay. Now in a situation where these units are going to go over a major overhaul and repair, it requires a complete shutdown usually up to 3 days of cooling, okay, before someone can actually go in there and work because this floor being several feet thick will still radiate quite a bit of heat even after 3 days, and it gets quite hot in there. Now in the case where we're tearing out, this unit is fairly simple. The ones that I've seen in the blueprints for Berchenau, they had 3 5 units of 3 hearts or 3 retorts. Okay? So these are if you would picture this as being the center one, these two walls would be sharing the units next to it. Okay. It would be impossible to break just 1 in a situation like that. You have to tear up all 3 since they're all connected and sharing these inner walls, okay? And that's quite a big job. This unit takes about a good 3 to 4 days to break, just one unit, okay, to tear it out and replace the breaks. And then you have a good day to 2 days of a break in period. Okay. In the case of Birkenau, one of the major problems there, as I mentioned you have to re break 3 of them all at the same time, but where a real problem comes in is where all of the units share 1 stack or 1 chimney. So in a situation like that, you have to shut down all of the units, because you can't operate units even though they don't need rebricking, because the heat would radiate in from the stack. You'd create a draft in this direction, and it just wouldn't be safe to rebrick it. So it poses a real problem because you have to rebrick after just say the floor you have to replace after 1,000 formations. If you could even stretch that to 2,000 as the modern units are today, you can see the logistics of the problems that you're going to have immediately with that. There are just limit certain limitations that the refractory does have. Speaker 2: Mr. Legasse, we're very pleased to have you on this interview. In the Calgary Sun on March 11th, the the entertainment editor said, something to the fact that 6,000 bodies a day were gassed and I presume she meant cremated too. How about just let us reduce it to 2,000 and say, how many retorts would be required just to cremate a minimum of 2,000 bodies a day? Speaker 1: Well, if you could imagine an average 8 hour day, it's possible to do about 3 cremations in that period of time, extending that over to 24 hour period, maximum would be 9 to 10 bodies per day, okay. Taking 2,000 and dividing it by then to 200 units, okay? And even if you did 2 skinny persons that you mentioned earlier, per burn, it's still about a 100 minutes. You know, just to do that, just to give you an idea, you can some statistics, and I'll try to send along copies of this to you. Just in North America, that's Canada and the United States combined, last year, 412,457, just about 400,000 bodies were cremated last year in North America. And to do that over the entire year, they used 1064 crematories. Just to show you how many units realistically it requires to handle the demand in North America. Speaker 2: You've all heard stories about the stench that people claim around Auschwitz. Would there be any smell from burning flesh crematorium degree in the years 1930s to 1945? Speaker 1: No, that's impossible. If there is any stentions, it will not come from human remains. In the blueprint, I had noticed that there was a unit after the fact, okay, it was right by the chimney, okay, well after the crematory and it was basically incinerator for rubbish. That's my nearest guess. So if you're burning certain types of rubbish, at that point, it might be possible that the orders would come from that source. You have to remember too that we today operate a commentary with FX. We have to be only 1 commission at a time per law, we use safety, there's a lot of consideration in that situation, there's nothing to say that they use the actual cremation chambers to dispose a lot of the rubbish produced in the cat. No one's really thought of that. We just assume that there would only be bodies earned in those units. It could have been rubbish. Speaker 2: I understand there was factory right in time to store too. Speaker 1: That's the situation. You can't say that the order didn't come there, you can't say that unless you were there, you can't. It's possible. The important thing that I'm going to stress is that no orders would have come from the bodies themselves being committed. Speaker 2: What about the so called gas chamber or gas oven legend that they say they put them Speaker 1: in alive and killed them and cremated them? Well, technically, it's impossible. It's as simple as that. Those stories just simply come from years of telling stories and become exaggerated and one person carries it and add a little bit to it. But it has no scientific foundation to it at all. Okay? So that's as far as I'm going to comment on Speaker 2: So probably you've answered the question, what about the stories of the Auschwitz survivors and Holocaust survivors that claim that one body was cremated every minute and a half in a 24 hour period. Speaker 1: Well, there's no technical support for that claim. There never was, there's a lot of witnesses that claims to be sold and they control figures. But there's no proof, okay, that's been produced to me yet that shows that it's possible to make that rate. The technology as far as I'm concerned does not exist up to date even with using gas burners, I don't think it'd be really possible to do so. Speaker 2: But would there be any difference in the time element between a skinny body and a fat body? Speaker 1: No. The fat body contains the fat or oils, oils is another fuel, okay, and will burn. So if you put a charge to reach our area with the least person, the fact will contribute to the cremation itself, okay, to speed that process up. But if you think of a skinny person, they don't have that extra fast, so they don't have that extra fuel, so the temperatures don't reach as high. Okay? So the unit runs harder with an obese person than with an emaciated person. Speaker 2: Okay. What is your opinion of the claims of the Holocaust survivors in court testimony under Olin? And I don't know if you were there or not, but one of the witnesses claimed that they could tell on every day what type of people were being cremated because the smoke was a different color for different ethnic groups? Speaker 1: Well, that has no impact basis to it at all. I find it quite a bit of an exaggeration. Again, the victims exaggerate the stories and try to make them as emotional as possible, in a way I feel for it, in one sense, but it has no fact based, it's just simply you cannot tell by the color of smoke or flame or anything of that nature, what race, color, creed you may be. I think any average man can figure that out on his own. You don't need to be a scientist. You can see that that's just an exaggeration. I just want to thank everyone for giving me this opportunity to present you with this video. I hope you found it educational and helped to clarify a lot of the mysteries surrounding the process of cremation and give you a more realistic view overview of the entire process. I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that. I think the facts speak for themselves, and until they're presented and otherwise, you have no reason to believe that the, cremations in the camps occurred at the rate they did. And until that occurs, I think that the whole process or the whole allegation of Holocaust is stopped dead in its tracks so to speak. Until someone can clarify to me and prove to me that cremations can be done at a faster rate than 2 hours, I find no reason to believe that the Holocaust has been presented to us for courage and I don't expect anyone else to believe so otherwise.

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No odors come from cremated bodies…. yet there’s 6 million stories from jews talking about the smells of burning bodies.🧐

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The video discusses how the conditions at Bergen Belsen deteriorated due to Allied bombing, leading to disease outbreaks. It highlights the role of typhus in causing deaths and refutes claims of deliberate German extermination. The use of Zyklon B for delousing is explained, debunking myths about gas chambers. The footage shown at the Holocaust Memorial Museum is criticized for misleading viewers. Overall, the video aims to provide a more accurate understanding of the events at concentration camps during World War II. Translation: The video explains how conditions at Bergen Belsen worsened due to Allied bombing, causing disease outbreaks. It debunks claims of intentional German extermination and clarifies the use of Zyklon B for delousing. Criticism is directed towards the footage shown at the Holocaust Memorial Museum for being misleading. The video seeks to offer a more precise portrayal of events at concentration camps during World War II.
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Speaker 0: Up until this time, these images of a bulldozer dumping naked, emaciated corpses into a mass grave at Bergen Belsen were the most horrifying imagery in the history of film. This film footage was shown to our parents' generation on a big screen. It has been shown to you at a young age. What are you to believe? Some programs, such as the Oprah presentation, lead one to assume this is a German driving this bulldozer, making his quota of gas Jews for the day rather than a British soldier pushing epidemic typhus victims into a mass grave. Until the end of the war, Bergen Belsen was not a death camp where Germans deliberately starved to death and murdered prisoners. In fact, it was originally designated as a recuperation camp or krankenlager, where sick prisoners were sent to improve their health. It wasn't such a terrible place until the final days of the war, and there is evidence to prove it. Rose Kahn, a Hungarian Jew, was transported from Auschwitz to Bergen Belsen in the summer of 1944. Before Auschwitz was abandoned and Bergen Belsen was severely overcrowded, she describes Bergen Belsen as not such a terrible place. Speaker 1: So when we arrived to Bergen Belsen and they told us to get out and the Nazis came with those big, big dogs with the wolves, and they asked us who cannot walk? A sick should tell them so they're gonna put us on a on a on a bus. I was afraid to say it. I couldn't walk, but I didn't say it. And if I would say it would be good because this was not a bad place. This was not, at that time, at that time. So in other words, it wasn't a trick? They really would have taken you by bus? Yes. Yes. I think you were right. Yeah. Yeah. But I was so afraid. So my mother and my friends were holding me and had walked a few miles, quite a few miles to it. And we arrived there and we lived in tents Mhmm. Tents and straw. We slept on straw, and, and we weren't treated badly. No. It wasn't it wasn't too bad over there. We were giving nice meals. Nice what happened? They wanted us strong to send out to work So they didn't want weak and sick people. Speaker 0: Witnesses such as this helped prove that Bergen Belsen was not a specially designed death camp whatsoever. Before the catastrophic end of the war, prisoners were routinely fed and decently cared for. The major trick of the Holocaust promotion industry is to show these horrible images of emaciated bodies and make you believe that prisoners were always like this, that the Germans immediately starved them to death. And this deliberate starvation had been going on for years as part of their plan of extermination. However, witnesses such as this and others prove that at times the concentration camps were not so terrible. Speaker 1: This was not a bad place. This was not, at that time. Speaker 0: It was only as Germany was losing the war, surrounded on all sides by a terror bombing campaign from the west and marauding Soviets in the east, the conditions in camps such as Bergen Belsen deteriorated disastrously. Speaker 1: And then we stayed there till they started to build barracks for all the other Auschwitz people when when when Bergen Belsen became hell. Speaker 0: Bergen Belsen became hellish at the very end of the war. The major cause of this was the Allied bombing campaign As the allies firebombed German civilian population centers, burning innocent men, women, and children alive, and shot at or bombed just about anything that moved on roads or train tracks. Even the Germans themselves had trouble finding enough to eat at the time. Speaker 2: Hardly food. It was very meager already. The Germans didn't have to eat. Speaker 3: Food didn't improve very much because, simple reason, they didn't have it very much themselves. So Speaker 1: Did the civilians try to help you at all? Did they trade goods for things? Speaker 3: It's it's as I said, we we have almost everything what we wanted for the circuit circuit teams from its civilians, from outside civilians. Speaker 0: The spread of deadly diseases and severe overcrowding exacerbated the entire situation. Prisoners from areas in the east, which were now being overrun by the Soviets, were hastily evacuated west. After days or weeks' journey, often on foot, they wound up in these overcrowded camps full of deadly diseases. And because the German infrastructure was being destroyed, this was catastrophic. In early February 1945, a large transport of Jews was admitted to Bergen Belsen while the disinvestation facility was out of order. As a result, typhus broke out and quickly spread beyond control. The hot air delousing machine sometimes failed to work for several days. The worst killer was typhus. But typhoid fever and dysentery also claimed their lives. There was a breakdown in order and communication throughout the German system as the Germans were losing the war and fighting for their survival. Trainloads of food were destroyed by Allied planes. At Bergen Belsen, the final factor which guaranteed mass casualties was in the final weeks of the war. The Allies bombed the power plant, which supplied electricity to the camp. Speaker 2: Water too had been cut off, and so the water cart was the most important thing to arrive. There had been no water supply for 6 days. The Germans pleaded it had been cut. Speaker 0: The electric plant which powered pumps supplying water to Bergen Belsen was not cut by some unnamed force. It was blown up by the British. A destroyed system for providing clean water to the camp compounded already disastrous hygiene and medical conditions. Clean water, necessary to shower prisoners, wash clothing, and treat dehydrated typhoid fever, dysentery, and typhus patients, was indeed cut off by British bombs. Speaker 2: One might ask why all the inmates surviving were not removed out of the camp altogether to a large town, for example, where there would be feeding and housing facilities? The answer is simply the dread word typhus. A mobile bacteriological unit and all medical aid possible, together with 90 medical students from London hospitals, were rushed to the spot to deal with it. Lack of soap and water brought lice to the inmates, and lice carry typhus. To get rid of typhus, one must first get rid of lice, So contaminated patients were removed from their huts and put Speaker 0: through a laundry process. The British struggled to remedy disastrous conditions in Bergen Belsen after liberation. Many 1,000 died after liberation. In the end, the British burned the wooden barracks as they became infested with deadly epidemic, typhus carrying body lice. Images of the disastrous situation at Bergen Belsen are fraudulently used to portray a deliberate German extermination policy. These postliberation images of Bergen Belsen as well as Dachau and Nordhausen have become symbols of German barbarism. But these people were victims of the larger war, not a deliberate German extermination policy. The Germans did what they could to keep people alive and in some cases contacted the Red Cross for assistance and even turned over some camps to them. The shameful truth hidden amongst this Holocaust propaganda is that not only were none of these people gassed, but the allies played a major role in their deaths. As terrible as these images of emaciated prisoners are, images of Union prisoners of the American Confederate Civil War Camp Andersonville show liberated prisoners also appeared in a similar condition. What happened at Andersonville was a complete breakdown in hygiene measures due to inadequate sanitation facilities. Toilets in the overcrowded camp didn't drain properly, exposing prisoners to filth and disease, in particular, dysentery. Symptoms of dysentery include diarrhea and rapid weight loss. In extreme cases, patients may pass over a liter of fluid per hour. It's easy to see how someone who is repeatedly defecating, vomiting, and urinating would quickly lose body weight, especially if food supplies, medicine, and water became scarce. At Andersonville, as overcrowding increased, so did the death toll. The Confederates also lost the war in a catastrophic way, much like the Germans. So there is a direct correlation between the images of Andersonville prisoners and the so called Holocaust images. Now these people at Andersonville aren't Jews, and never has anyone alleged that the South aimed for a total genocide of Northerners. The photographs of Andersonville and, for instance, Bergen Belsen are quite similar and correlate with the breakdown in hygiene, overcrowding, the spread of disease, and one side of the war losing catastrophically. What you see in these images at Bergen Belsen is primarily the result of typhus. Typhus is a disease carried by the body louse, which is similar to head lice. But body lice prefer to attach themselves not to the scalp, but to the inner seams of clothing. Typhus was responsible for the deaths of 1,000,000 throughout history. Typhus epidemics routinely occurred throughout Europe during wartime. During World War 1, more than 3,000,000 people died from typhus. What you see in these images are primarily typhus epidemic victims. The Germans did not intentionally starve them to death. We can see several people liberated from the camps. Although not in pristine condition, some appear well fed, some even fat. They simply didn't have disease. The Germans, in fact, tried to stop the spread of disease. The insecticide, zyklon b, was a pesticide used to kill these deadly, typhus carrying body lice. There's nothing inherently murderous about zyklon b. In fact, Zyklon B was used on the Mexican border to gas the clothing of Mexicans crossing the border. The delousing process went like this. Prisoners entering a camp would strip their clothing and get a haircut to prevent any areas where deadly typhus carrying body lice could thrive. Then they would take a hot shower. At the same time, their clothing would be put into specially designed fumigation chambers where fumigation crews would use the insecticide zyclon b to kill deadly, typhus carrying body lice. The prisoners would then be given clean, lice free clothing and enter the camp. It is easy to see how this lifesaving delousing process involving real fumigation chambers for clothing and real showers was misconstrued into wartime propaganda about showers of gas by prisoners spreading rumors as well as Soviet propaganda artists deliberately framing their enemies. 1 of the final exhibits at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC sums up the importance of the information presented in this video. Museum visitors are bombarded with film clips taken after the allies captured concentration and labor camps. These films are meant to represent proof of a deliberate German extermination policy, but you've now seen many of these clips explained and debunked. Near the end of the museum's main exhibit, 2 banks of 3 video monitors flanking a fallen Nazi flag play film footage taken after camps were captured by the allies. Each of the 3 monitors is dedicated to one of the 3 major allied powers, the Soviet Union, United States, and Great Britain. On this screen is US army footage taken at Nordhausen, Dachau, and Bokkenwald. The caption reads, local German civilians are ordered to tour Buchenwald concentration camp. This is an American army official Germans around the supposed human skin lampshade and the table filled with propaganda props. Visitors are shown the Dachau death trains full of victims of allied bombing and strafing attacks. Medonic, the outside of a real shower facility. Bath and disinfection 2. And the inside of bath and disinfection 1, showing the real working shower room. Again, the camera's angled away from the many windows. The caption reads, Soviet Army officers inspect chambers where prisoners were killed by poison gas. Today, every serious mainstream historian acknowledges this wasn't a gas chamber with fake shower heads. It was a real working shower room designed to keep prisoners alive and free of disease. Again, the bulldozer pushing epidemic typhus victims into a mass grave at Bergen Belsen. A disaster, but not deliberate or planned. On the last television screen, we're shown footage of Nordhausen bombed to smithereens by 500 British warplanes over 2 days. Much like at the Nuremberg trials, the final shot we are shown before moving on to the exhibit on post war trials is the victim of British warplanes at Nordhausen with his exposed brains. How sick to show gory imagery of allied air attack victims as proof of the evilness of Germans. Mothers rushing their children past this section never questioned the context of this imagery. This is powerful trauma based mind control used to brainwash, not by using logic and facts, but by searing these horror images into a captive audience's mind and manipulating emotions with mendacious narrations.
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Summary: The concentration camp inmates engaged in cultural activities like playing music, painting murals, and putting on plays to cope with their harsh reality. They formed soccer teams, watched movies, and even received money to buy goods. Despite the grim circumstances, they found ways to find joy and distraction through art and entertainment. Translation: The prisoners in the concentration camps found solace in cultural activities such as music, painting, and theater. They formed soccer teams, watched movies, and were given money to purchase goods. Despite their difficult situation, they managed to find happiness and diversion through art and entertainment.
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Speaker 0: 50,000 video interviews. There must be some Jews telling some semblance of truth about life in the concentration camps. Speaker 1: We also had a, an orchestra where some of the musicians stand stood together, And one musician was so good that he had the instruments playing and he wrote the notes. So later on, we had a band who played over the weekend. And, that was, of course, Speaker 2: Were there any cultural activities happening in Auschwitz? Speaker 3: Yes. I told you we had a piano put into a not just a piano, a grand piano was brought into block 1. Once that was built, that the downstairs room was assigned for theater. When he wanted to build a stage curtain in that new block 1, which was one big dining room was going to be also business stage, so performances could be done for women there, cultural. He said, for heaven's sake, isn't there anybody here who can help me sew on these curtain rings for the stage? I do it for you, he says. And I came forward, and I helped him with the curtain stage. And that was wonderful because I had a man sitting across me for a change. And my roommate is in charge of work assignments. And if you happen to know music what instruments do you play? I said I learned piano but not good enough on orchestra. I can tell you that right now. He said, well then maybe you know the notes. I said, yes. He said, well then I can use you because we have to, write it from the original music piece, what the director gets, to the instruments. And so for each instrument has only, a short line on the whole paper. So I had to take it apart and write for each instrument from that what I had to do. That I had to even make the lines. We didn't have paper that was preprinted for notes. Nothing. So I spent the whole day there for a while until we were taken away from Auschwitz. But then she saw me work there. I had a big table where I could work and lay out all the paper, and it was very peaceful and relaxing. Speaker 4: And Speaker 3: Otto wanted to to talk more to me. That is when I met that SS man at one time. That was the last job I did while I was in Auschwitz. And and and when I the other job that when I was in block 10, we went out to pick the leaves. And from these leaves, they would make tea for the whole camp, for the whole Auschwitz. Speaker 2: How did you entertain yourselves? Speaker 5: Well, there were at that or at the beginning of those days, there was a library where you go people could get books to read. There were newspapers that we could get, and that and also among ourselves, sometimes we had a violin quartet. We used to come and play in barracks during the event that was this. And later on, they said they're gonna build a mover in the camp, and they pray of the president said said, all of you must be crazy. They're gonna make a movie for us in in the camp. And remember, it happened. They made a movie in the can. Did. Yeah. And we we went in barracks after the we we could go to see a movie sometimes in the evening. They brought movies in to the in the evening. And Speaker 2: What kind of movies would they show? Speaker 5: German movies. Once I came to the main camp, they were allowed twice a month to ride home. Once a postcard and once a letter. Speaker 2: They gave you the materials? Speaker 5: Yeah. They gave us the letter, the materials, the we could Speaker 2: How did you get the Speaker 5: stamps. We could buy stamps. We could You Speaker 2: had money? Speaker 5: Yeah. We got money. We still got money. We got money we got through the Jewish community from Vienna who sent us everybody some money. Speaker 2: And and in the camp, you could have, currency? Speaker 5: Yeah. They could have money because there was in camp also what they call a container, and not many times. But once in a while, they sold a few cigarettes or they sold something, whatever they had. So if you had money, you could buy in that container there. Food, there wasn't really any food really. They usually sold, and sometimes they sold they sold some weak beer. They sold also Speaker 2: in the Speaker 5: In the Caribbean. Yeah. But not really anything else. Mostly cigarettes. Speaker 2: And when you went to the movies, did you have to pay? Speaker 5: Yes, we had to pay After the the money stopped, the regular money stopped, We got paid in coupons then. Speaker 2: Paid for your work? Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if it was for where whatever. We got paid for in coupons for which were redeemable in the in the container if they had something. So that was their their way of distributing money then to everybody. There's everybody got this money Speaker 1: then. Of course, what we did is for the weekends, we got together. We got a group of us together, and we made a soccer team, which was over a little later, where we played soccer. What's amazing that there would be a soccer team, that there'd be Speaker 4: enough energy left to do something like that. Speaker 1: Well, I don't think we were quite as energetic as we were with the other regular team, but we did something to, you know it kept our mind off these, of the problems we had. Speaker 4: Well, you you mentioned to me the other day that Monowitz was like a college library Speaker 6: Well, that was Speaker 4: in what way? Speaker 6: Especially the Germans start losing the war, 1943, 94. So 1944, we had soccer games in Rosales. Soccer teams, we had to org we organized very well soccer teams. Each each nationality organized soccer team, and we all organized our equipment, everything, and play soccer on the assembly line on the assembly, place. Speaker 7: In gross Rosen? Speaker 6: In Gross Rosen. So, you know, that much free it was, and then but it was not in 44. It's the Russians already pushed away, Americans already invaded from the other side, so they they have to give more freedom. But there was much more freedom, and and food didn't improve very much because, simple reason, they didn't have it very much themselves. So so Speaker 7: Did the civilians try to help you at all? Did they trade goods for things? Speaker 6: It's it's it's as I said, we we have almost everything what we wanted for the circuit circuit teams from civilians, from outside civilians, but that was strictly, under under under cover. The the SS didn't know that they knew it, but they didn't do much about it because they knew the war was almost over, so they didn't, they even played soccer with us that just to make the the store the store funny, that the incident, find that one time the Polish team play against German teams, and one of this, enlisted top listed assessment decided he wants to play for the Polish team. So we say, okay. You can play for us. And then the commandant the the commanded the SS commanded, he was, like like a a captain. He decided to wanna play for with the German team, so he went in the field. I think they were a little bit tipsy. Speaker 7: How how did you feel about that? And Speaker 6: the the funny part of it, we said just to let them play, they play all by themselves. Which is not an honor. But that was, one of this incident which stuck stuck so fun in it. But that's happened, so but it was 1944, so it's, it almost, things came to a close. Speaker 7: So are what you is what you're saying then that, the closer the end of the war came, pressure was let up rather than becoming more cruel or Speaker 6: In our camp, pleasure you you did feel the pressure laid Speaker 0: out. The big problem is that the Auschwitz soccer field was right next to the so called genocidal gas chambers and would be in full view of the so called final solution. Speaker 8: Freddie Hirsch called me to the children's barracks. He was heading then, And, he asked me if I could paint something on the wall for the children, and I said, well, if you can get the materials. He said, I'll get the materials. Okay. And then a very handsome, young, blonde man from the men's camp came over one day and Freddie Hirsch called me to come and meet him. And he asked me what I need, so I said, well, if I can get any wall paints or any temporary paints, I would like those. If you can get me some, and he said, yes. Anything you want. And so before I knew it, Freddie had the stuff ready for me and I started painting. At first, not knowing what, I looked at that huge drab. It was kind of olive colored like all the barracks were. Wall and I thought well, the thing to do is to make it look like we are in a Swiss chalet on the deck and there is a balustrade with flowers and flower pots on it, and we are looking out of the beautiful meadows and maybe see some cows and sheep and stuff, and I started painting. And then afterwards far in the distance, I was putting some sheep and some cows, and then I noticed that all the kids were standing around me behind me. So I turned around and I asked them if they would do they have any special wish what to put in that meadow? And they said, Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs, and that was a very surprising answer. So I made a painting of Dopey standing on another dwarf's head with a cloak around him, so he looked like a tall guy. So he would be as tall as Snow White and they were dancing together and the shoes, those soft shoes and everything, and the kids loved it and I made some other dwarves around. One who was playing the accordion. I think that was Grumpy, the mean one, and the professor with the glasses. I made almost all the dwarves standing around. Some of them were clapping and that's what the kids liked. I now understand that there was another painter who continued something painting on the walls after I've left. I don't know about that. Speaker 9: When you were in the process of doing that Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 9: What did it do not only for for you, but for the, for the children on on an emotional level. Speaker 8: Well, it did several things. Not just emotional, but the children then wrote a play which was a satire of Snow White and the 7 Dwarves. So I figured out a way of making a crown out of paper and the kids were painting it gold and putting like jewels on it, And then I took some paper strips, and I painted them with a black paint. And I don't know about the costumes, what what they made costumes out of, but the play was very successful because the little girl who was playing Snow White had an incredible voice, a gorgeous soprano just like the one that you hear in the movie. Speaker 9: How were they allowed to put on a play in Auschwitz? Speaker 8: I don't know, but it was done kind of quite hush-hush, all of it, except that when it was put on, suddenly some assessment appeared and they watched. And then when Arno Baen put on that play, he he wanted something like a Wardville Wardville play, which I was into. That was when I couldn't stand the breath of the guy who was playing with me. Speaker 9: What was the, the process for the casting? I mean, how were people selected to be in this play or that play? Speaker 3: This is a picture, that was taken at my father's cousin's grand child's bat bat mitzvah 3 years ago, and these people in this picture are all survivors.
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People need to confront their fears and examine the facts objectively. The comparison between Zionism and Bolshevism in a historical article is thought-provoking.

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Why are people afraid of the facts about the jews?

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The speaker discusses the fear people have when confronted with facts about Jews, particularly their involvement in Bolshevism. They reference Winston Churchill's article on Jews in communism, which states that many leading figures in Bolshevism were Jewish. The speaker also mentions quotes from various Jewish sources that confirm Jewish involvement in the Russian revolution. They argue that discussing these facts openly is met with hostility and censorship, and that Americans have been programmed to view any criticism of Jews as evil. The speaker calls for breaking these taboos and promoting openness and transparency.
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Speaker 0: Why are people afraid of the facts about Jews? I met many different people, and I can say that there seems to be a general fear that arises in people when the facts about Jews come up. And when I say facts about Jews, I mean pretty much things that there's overwhelming evidence against the Jews on. Bolshevism, for instance. There's no doubt that Bolshevism was a Jewish movement. Many people at the time knew it, and that includes people who were not necessarily enemies of the Jews. Winston Churchill, for instance, wrote an entire article on the Jews in communism entitled Zionism versus Bolshevism, a struggle for the soul of the Jewish people. In this article, Churchill said very clearly, and I quote, this movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx and down to Trotsky in Russia, Bella Cun in Hungary, Rosa Luxembourg in Germany, and Emma Goldman in the United States, this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development of envious malevolence and impossible equality has been steadily growing. Churchill goes on to say, there is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and the actual bringing about of the Russian revolution by these international and for the most part, atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one. It probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Of course, nowadays, we know that Lenin was at least 1 quarter Jewish. But obviously, that wasn't well known at the time. He goes on to say, moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. It really can't be much clearer than that. He's pretty much saying that Jews created Bolshevism and that Bolshevism is a Jewish conspiracy, which is created for the overthrow of civilization. And that's not Adolf Hitler saying that. That's not father Coughlin saying that. That's not Henry Ford saying that. That's Winston Churchill. And of course, many Jews confirm this themselves, albeit very quietly. The Jewish World in London, April 16, 1919, page 11 said, the Jews have been furnishing for the Bolsheviks, the majority of their leaders. Antisemitism and the Jewish question in London 1942, page 31 said, Karl Marx, who came from an old family of rabbis and brilliant Talmudic scholars was to point the path of victory for the proletariat. Rabbi Stephen Wise in the American bulletin of May 15, 1935 said, some call it Marxism, I call it Judaism. Rabbi Wise was also a liaison for president Roosevelt and president Wilson. Harry Wotton in a program for the Jews and an answer to all antisemites published in New York for the committee of the preservation of the Jews in 1939, page 143 states, the communist soul is the soul of Judaism. The Menorah Journal in New York from July to September 1932, page 106 states, it would be absurd to deny the intensity of the Jewish participation in the Russian revolutionary movement. The American Hebrews stated on September 10th 1920, that achievement, the Russian revolution destined to figure in history as the overshadowing result of the World War was largely the outcome of Jewish thinking, of Jewish discontent and of Jewish effort to reconstruct. And that's very similar to what Churchill said that this was a movement to overthrow and reconstitute society on the basis of arrested development. The Jewish Voice published in New York from the National Council of Jewish Communist in January 1942, Page 16 stated, the Jewish people will never forget that the Soviet Union was the first country and as yet the only country in the world in which antisemitism is a crime. It was punishable by death, by the way. Same source said in a year before, on page 23, anti communism is anti semitism. I could go on. There's there's a whole library of quotes on this, but I think you get the point. You can look them up yourself if you wanna see more of them. And if quotes aren't good enough for you, then I would just tell you to look up the people who actually pushed communism. Look at their biographies. Look at their family history. Leon Trotsky, real name Lev Bronstein, the son of wealthy Jewish wine producers, Also author of the book, In Defense of Terrorism, which was a book that encouraged terror to be used against counter revolutionaries. He was also founder and leader of the Red Army as well as the leader of the First People's Commissariat along with 4 other revolutionaries, all of whom were also Jews. Karl Marx, author of the Communist Manifesto, real name Karl Mordecai, the son of Rabbi Herschel Mordecai. And you know Mordecai was the name of the Jewish hero in the bible in the Old Testament in the book of Esther who helped undermine the Persian government similarly to what the communist did to the Russian government and to the other Eastern European governments and tried to do to Germany also before they were stopped by Hitler. And those are just a few of the top Jews that were involved in it but the list really goes on and on. This prompted many people even in our own government to take notice of the Jewish leadership and involvement in Bolshevism. David R. Francis, the US ambassador to Russia in 1918 while he was in Russia remarked, the Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90% of whom are returned to exiles care little for Russia or any other country, but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution right in line with what Churchill said. So there is no doubt really that Bolshevism was a Jewish movement, and you can come up with any excuse you want to try and excuse it. But fact of the matter is it was a Jewish movement. Yet these facts are very difficult for some to stomach. For instance, many Christians I have run into blatantly disregard the facts about Jews, and tend to respond with a Bible verse supposedly proving that the Jews are some sort of special group of people that cannot be criticized or posed in any way even if the Jews are ruining the world. Speaker 1: There is a promise to those who bless Israel to be blessed. Those who curse will be cursed. Speaker 0: I mean, you can give these people all the names, dates, writing, sources, anything you can find to prove the point that Jews were behind Bolshevism. And that the reason that the Bolshevik or communist or liberal culture, whatever you want to call it, still prevails in Western civilization is due to the fact that Jews still prevail in Western civilization. Yet just about every time I have made that point to a Christian, I get a relatively hostile response along with a Bible verse or 2 about how criticizing the Jews is an evil thing even if the criticism is true. Now that is scary. But this seems to be a mindset that has become the norm throughout American Christianity. This nonsense that Jews cannot be criticized or named in any way even when the evidence against them is overwhelming. I'm picking on Christians at the moment, but this type of mindset really does prevail throughout all American thinking, Christian and otherwise. And it's interesting to know that no one ever asks why this mindset continues to prevail in America and who is responsible for making it that way. We just don't ask those questions here in America. What a contrast that line of thinking is to the men who founded this republic. Thomas Jefferson said, there's not a truth existing which I would fear or would wish unknown to the whole world. It's a shame that so many people in Jefferson's country don't feel that way. They believe that their ideology is more important than the facts. Or even worse, they tend to confuse their ideology as the facts. Well, I know this to be true because the bible says so. No book, whether it is designated as holy or not, is above the facts. No book, whether it is designated as holy or not, is above the facts. No book, whether it is designated as holy or not, is above the facts. If the fact shows something contradictory to the Bible, then the Bible ought to be rejected as the ultimate source of truth. No one should ever feel intimidated by man or by deity to discuss the facts and inform people of them. In other words, we ought to be able to openly discuss the problems facing our nation and who is likely behind them and not feel intimidated to do so. Yet, many Americans feel that they will anger their loving and caring God if they dare to point out or agree with some uncomfortable facts about God's favorite group of people. But I have to reiterate that no man or deity should be so controlling of us that he would keep us from reporting the facts as uncomfortable or offensive as they might be. Truth is truth regardless of who likes it or not. Now the Jews don't believe that of course. They believe that truth is defined as to what benefits Jews and everything else is anti Semitism, hate speech, speech, racism, bigotry, xenophobia, etcetera. This is the mindset of the Jews. It has to be beneficial for them or cannot be allowed to be discussed openly and critically even in a society which is founded on the very principle of freedom of speech and openness. For example, if the Federal Reserve is controlled by Jews, don't you think we ought to be able to say that the Federal Reserve is controlled by Jews? No one should feel intimidated or fearful of pointing out those facts as uncomfortable as they might be for some. Yet that is not the case for many Americans, religious and otherwise. Now I realize that as of this day, the Jews cannot legally penalize an American citizen for simply reporting negative facts about them, although they would certainly like to. Because of the First Amendment which guarantees freedom of speech, even speech that people don't like, and even speech that Jews don't like. But the Jews have found little ways to get around the First Amendment. For instance, if you post a video on YouTube or a similar site that merely points out some of the aforementioned facts about Jewish control of the Federal Reserve, you're likely to get one of these. We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express their points of view even if unpopular. But YouTube does not permit hate speech. Hate speech means content that promotes hatred or violence against members of a protected group, race, or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation, gender identity, sometimes there is a fine line between what is and what is not considered hate speech. If you're not sure whether or not your content crosses the line, don't post it. Now, the term hate speech is subjective even to the people who are pushing the term on us and I can prove it to you. Mark Potok, the Jewish spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center which is a Jewish group and by that I mean, it is a group with a disproportionately large number of Jews in its its hierarchy, said in an interview with CNN that there is no legal or shared definition of hate speech. Potok said and I quote, there is no legal meaning. It's just a phrase. Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder. Now that is interesting. If hate speech is in the ear of the beholder and you can have an entire video removed from Youtube that points out some uncomfortable facts about Jews, then doesn't that tell us exactly whose ears are determining what hate speech is? And of course, this very personal definition of hate speech is pushed on the rest of us. So that's one of the little ways that Jews work to keep facts against them out of the public sphere, censorship. There's also the intimidation factor. I've already shown how this works with religious people, but it's also valuable to know how this factor works on others who may not be religious or may not be as religious as those waiting for the rapture. In the United States, we are raised with a very infantile concept of good and evil. This is generated primarily from 2 sources. One is church and the other is pop culture. In essence, television, movies, magazines, comic books, etcetera. If you're a secularist and you're not raised in a church, then you'll have your opinion formed for you by the pop culture which also reinforces much of the good and evil nonsense that the religious people here in church. The Star Wars movies are good examples of this. There's a very clear and distinct line of good and evil in those movies. The evil dark side is always trying to take over the universe and enslave everyone. And the light side, of course, is trying to heroically stop the dark side. There are many other examples of this too in American pop culture. And Americans whether they are religious or not, grow up with this very infantile concept of the world embedded deep into their psyche. And when Americans are old enough to comprehend the real world around us, we start getting our prescription doses of political propaganda. Adolf Hitler, for instance, was not just a German leader who took on the new world order of Bolshevism. Rather, he was an evil dictator of the dark side of humanity that wanted to take over the world and enslave everyone. And, of course, the people who opposed him were heroic and courageous, god fearing people, going to war to help out their fellow man and to make sure that freedom and liberty prevailed and that the dark forces were defeated. And this theme is repeated over and over again on TV in America. So, Adolf Hitler is Darth Vader in America. He's the boogeyman. And because Adolf Hitler is the evil boogeyman, the things he believed and said were also evil, especially, of course, his opinions of Jews. Anyone who can be associated with Hitler or his beliefs faces quite a bit of adversity in America. First, you have to understand the programming factor or the brainwashing factor if you wanna call it that. For instance, one of the rebuttals I hear the most often against the facts about Jews is something along the lines of, well, I agree with a lot of what you say until you start blaming Jews. In other words, the facts and their sources make no difference. Once someone hears the word Jew in a negative fashion, his brain immediately shuts down and his mouth takes over. And he simply starts repeating all the slogans he has heard on TV or in church. Wow. You sound like Hitler or don't you know that type of thinking led to the holocaust? Like I said, this Star Wars programming runs really deep into the American psyche. It's also a good measurement of knowledge and intelligence. If someone outright rejects the facts about Jews in this fashion, it's obvious that either a, he has not studied this subject and doesn't know the control the Jews truly have over America. Example given, the Federal Reserve. Or b, he has heard something he knows as a no no and immediately retreats from it because he is simply not sharp enough to understand what a fact is. More often than not, it's probably a little of both. But either way, it's still a good method to determine whether you are speaking to someone who is smart and capable of critical thinking, who has done his homework, or if you're speaking with someone who just follows the crowds and repeats the slogans. To a slightly lesser extent, especially when dealing with people online, it can be also that the person who is not understanding the facts about the Jews simply doesn't want to admit that he is wrong and that his beliefs are based on him being misinformed. Quite often, this is the case, especially when giving facts to someone who is very opinionated. You know, they just can't look like they've been told or owned or whatever, So they just persist in their wrong opinion. I'll have a lot more on this topic in the future because it just goes beyond the scope of one video. But I would say in conclusion that the main reason people are afraid of discussing the Jews openly is probably all the propaganda and nonsense that they have allowed the Jews to build up in their heads. And couple that with all the screeching the Jews do when the topic is brought up, and you pretty much have the situation we have today in the United States where the country is in a downward spiral, and only a handful of people have the spine to talk about who is doing it and an even smaller handful that are actually doing something about it. So the goal for every person who wants to save western civilization should be to shatter these artificial taboos and reintroduce the concept of openness and transparency into the public sphere. You're going to encounter legion after legion of opposition of course as Americans are far more influenced these days by ideology than facts. But once the main taboos are shattered, then the shattering of other taboos will follow and civilization will once again start rising towards the light and out of the darkness where the enemy currently has us descending.

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Zionism versus Bolshevism⬇️

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Zionism versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People. (February 8th, 1920) Now isn't that an interesting news article?

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Why Are People Afraid of The Facts About Jews? “The Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them. They have now gained control of the most powerful countries … this tiny community heave become a world power.” -Malaysian... odysee.com
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In the first post, the author shares their experience infiltrating Bohemian Grove. They mention finding transportation vehicles, exploring a cabin with items labeled "May 2023," and finally reaching the ceremony area with the owl. The post encourages bookmarking and sharing. In the second post, the author refers to a previous video about the Bohemian Grove infiltration. They express curiosity about whether rituals still take place there, noting the owl and the lack of maintenance. The author also mentions a dry erase board with names like Josh Peck and Simon P, questioning their identities.

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🦉Bohemian Grove Infiltration. At the 9:00 mark he finds all the transportation vehicles for Bohemian. 15:00 he enters a cabin & looks through all kinds of items, interestingly a lot of items are labeled "May 2023." 1:30:00 he finally makes it to the ceremony area with the owl. Bookmark & Share.

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The speakers embark on an infiltration mission at Bohemian Grove. They navigate through the site, encountering security guards and exploring various buildings and cabins. They discover artifacts, documents, and memorabilia related to the Grove's history and events. They also come across an owl statue and an altar. Eventually, they encounter security and decide to make a hasty retreat, trekking through bushes and following a creek to find their way back to the road. Despite some close calls, they successfully escape the Grove.
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Speaker 0: K. Just got dropped off. I'm here at, the entrance of Bohemian Grove, and we're gonna do this thing. Speaker 1: So I'm out here again. I'm pretty close to the entrance of Bohemian Grove. We're gonna be trying to infiltrate the site. This is Bohemian Grove infiltration part 2. Yeah. This should be fun. Speaker 0: I was on the Joe Rogan podcast Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and Joe Rogan Speaker 0: 2078. Yeah. He called me a loon. He called me a crazy person for using a cast iron pan. You know, it was the only paddle that I had available at the time. This was a last minute mission that I wanted to do. Yeah. I didn't have a paddle. So, it was the only paddle like thing I had on me. So I had to use what I I had to do what I had to do. I think the cast iron worked pretty well. But this time, we're not gonna be going across the river because there's been a lot of rain in the last few weeks. And that would be a really stupid idea because the water is rushing super fast. So we're gonna be trying to go by foot. We're gonna be probably army crawling around security, around the security booth. Yeah. That's pretty much it. Speaker 1: Okay. That car is a little sus. Speaker 0: Here is the entrance Speaker 1: of the grove right here, Speaker 0: Bohemian Avenue and Railroad Avenue. Speaker 1: There's probably cameras this way. There's gotta be cameras. Speaker 0: These are pretty big floodlights. Speaker 1: Yeah. It doesn't look like there's any sensors or cameras. Just these floodlights. But I'm definitely not gonna walk this this road. I'm gonna go through the trees. Oh, shit. This is all hella flooded. I don't know how I'm gonna do this without getting my shoes wet. What the fuck is that? I mean Speaker 2: Oh, shit. Speaker 1: I think it's emotions. I think that's a motion sensor. It just blinked red. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: So it looks like that's the main gate way down there. I think I'm gonna try to hop the fence over there and take that road as far as I can. This seems incredibly sus. Speaker 2: Oh, this is spider right there. Dude, that's a fucking hot tub. What the fuck? The security's house. There's 2 big white security cars that I just walked by. I have no idea what the fuck this building is. Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Speaker 2: Fuck. Speaker 1: Bohemian roof. It's like the owl logo. Speaker 0: Damn. Speaker 1: Okay. So, we're pretty deep into this site right now, and we're trying to get to this red dot right here. Yeah. So I'm gonna make my way down here and then continue on these logging roads until we get to this red pen right here. And, yeah, we are right here at the blue dot. Oh shit. Speaker 0: Oh my god. Speaker 1: Yeah. That thing just fucking fell. This is like rotting wood. I did not mean to do that. K. We're trying to go up there yonder that direction. There's a house up there with lights. There's a house up there with lights, and there's a bunch of facilities over in that direction. There's a road over there. We could potentially go over there and then loop around and try to get up there, or we could just hike up this little hill. I definitely wanna see if this is unlocked. It's definitely locked. Oh, damn. Look at that thing. It's a big fucking owl. Somebody locked that. Oh, shit. So yeah. This area is apparently called Camp Hideaway. And it's completely locked up. PP room station meant. 2012. Doesn't look like they cleaned this shit in a while. Taking out any of the trash. Oh, damn. This place is completely caved in. This looks extremely dangerous. Fuck. Tons of artwork. Bohemian Club. Smokey Robinson. Oh, damn. May 17, 2023. It's a bunch of wine. I mean, I could go through this shit for hours. Wow. Hideaway. Just out undignified a 100 years. Lexington, Kentucky. Yeah. 2023, May 1st. Hotel quality bed pillows. Hotel quality bed pillows. Yeah. So we got small heating blankets, 2023. Camp Hideaway. 1995. Ed Armfield, Bill Green, George Hopiak, Bill Hadorn, Fred Walter, Joe Ferdy, and so on. And that was 1995. This is this is, 1998. You guys can read all those dudes. There's some familiar faces from 1995. Oh. 1981. Jerry Scott, Bob Pond, Fred Walther, Bert Davis, Alex Davis, Tom Mulvihill, Mulvihill. Peter f Dune, original founder of Camp Hideaway, who art now in yet another heaven. Hideaway camp founders, Red Martin, and Arty Dune. That looks like a really old picture. 1927. Hideaway membership. Speaker 0: Wow. Speaker 1: And a camp hideaway book. The last man who knew everything. Bohemian Club Library notes. Speaker 0: Damn. That bottom shelf is locked. Speaker 1: Oh, wow. That looks like there's no date on this. Dude, there is a lot of shit. Speaker 0: This is like Speaker 1: October 26, 2000. Speaker 0: This is Speaker 1: like all camp hideaway stuff. Speaker 0: Hideaway in 1992. Speaker 1: 2018, generations of service. 2,000 can't hide away. Admiral Arleigh Albert Burke. Yeah. 1988. Fairfax, Virginia. This seems to be yeah. I guess there's individual camps. That was only the second one. This is the first Speaker 2: cabin. Speaker 1: Yeah. Somebody just left a cube, Speaker 0: charger in here. Speaker 1: Aspirin. Midsummer Encampment 2023, program of events. This is gonna be interesting. Property of the d guy DJ course. There's 4 Mikes. Yeah. Weaving spiders coming out of here in camp mid 2014. You need to carry this car with you in the Grove as a security measure. You may be asked to present your car to a Grove security officer. 2016 Encampment. That's a weird looking owl. Looks fucking deranged. Sausalito Yacht Club. Wool blankets 2023. Sound engineering. It's some nice Levi jeans from Bohemian Grove. They have tons of sound equipment. Towels. Number 3 is locked. Captain's quarters, number 4, is also locked. Number 9 is unlocked. Yeah. This was 2023, spirit of the occasion. To hide away from Arleigh Burke. They even, like, made the fucking beds. Jesus. Oh, wow. Durango to Silvertone belt. Bohemian Grove butt pad. Don't give up on your day job, bohemian course. A wise owl lived in an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke. The less he spoke, the more he heard. Why can't we be like this old bird? Speaker 0: Are these bohemian flags? Speaker 1: Mike, what am I looking at here? What's that say? Don't tread on me. I'm just a snake. The San Francisco Chronicle. July 27, 2023. It's pretty recent. It's kinda weird that they didn't clean any of this up from the 2023 ceremony. Yeah. They got pretty nice shoes here. Watch this be like straight up wads of cash. I doubt it. And, by the way, roster, 1987. Speaker 0: Yeah. I mean, Speaker 1: there's just tons of pictures from Speaker 0: seems like Speaker 1: the Camp Hideaway 1987 ceremony. Somebody's holiday card. 19 seventies to 2012. Oh, wow. That's crazy. It's a photo album from the seventies to the to 2012. All camps all camps and members, 19 30 to 1997. Speaker 0: That that Speaker 1: is crazy. That all that info is here. I don't know, man. This place gives me the creeps. Damn. They locked this shit up. There's a lot of shit in there. Oh, somebody fucking broke a window in here. I mean, some nice bunk beds. I don't think there's a whole lot in here. Oh, shit. Oh my god. Jesus Christ. That shit is slippery. Number 78 are locked. Number 6 is locked, and number 5 is locked. The 38th cremation of care. Josh Peckler, director. Oh my god. Dude. The moss the moss on these stairs are fucking deadly. It's good, buddy. Captain Williams. William c Green, quarter z. Bath towels. Let's see if there's actually blankets in here. Okay. Christmas in Bohemia. Come as children, little children. 1997. Speaker 0: That is that is a sinister Speaker 1: fucking what the fuck? Speaker 0: I don't know, man. Speaker 1: This shit is fucking weird. Speaker 0: Kinda wanna check what's in those boxes, but Speaker 1: Hey, Dorn. Oh, here's some more Encampment cards. 2018, Speaker 0: 2017, Speaker 1: 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 09, all the way to 4. Bunch of golf balls. Damn. It's fucking the fuck is this shit? Speaker 2: Shit? Speaker 0: Who's this guy? You got someone explaining to Speaker 1: do, buddy. David t Malouf. Christianity matters. Cremation of care, July 18th 98. The space case. An evening on the Rivers Road. 1998. Yeah. There's, like, a little house up there. There's also something, like, right up there too. Dude, the lights are, like, completely on Speaker 2: in this place. Speaker 1: Yeah. That was locked up. Got some appliances. Looks pretty nice in there. So they they do lock a lot of their shit up. Lots of, owls. It's like fucking 30 owls on that shelf. There's a grill. Weird artwork. Oh, what the fuck? There's 2015. 2,009. Interesting. Jesus. Oh, I didn't realize there's a door right there. Fuck. The great gray owl. Speaker 0: Yo. What the Speaker 1: fuck? It's like an ornament. It's gone away. Speaker 0: Got some Red Bulls. Oh, wow. No way. Oh, that's sick. Oh, why isn't it working anymore? Speaker 1: Not sure. 2022 matches. Speaker 0: Now here's the pocketbook from 2023. Speaker 1: 2021. Interesting. 1995. Here's some soap. Speaker 0: This place, it just gives extremely, Speaker 1: extremely weird vibes. Like, I don't know, man. Dude, I don't know where the fuck I'm going. Yeah. This this sidewalk road thing has turned into a creek. Like, a minute or 2 ago, there were some pretty creepy noises in the in the trees. Probably just some animals, but you can never be so sure. I think I have to go that way, but I don't know for sure. Speaker 0: Fuck that. I'm not going that way. Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to, like, a road. Looks like they're doing construction on the road. Speaker 0: Here's an AED. Oh, there's no AED in here. Speaker 1: That looks like a poisonous spider. Fuck you, dude. Hello? Alright. Speaker 0: Phone will ring in hospital and security. Speaker 1: Well, I should've read that before I touched it. Speaker 0: I might have just blown my cover. I am fucking stupid. Speaker 2: Mount Speaker 1: Heller Trail. It's a bunch of fucking oxygen. I don't know. These are fire extinguishers. Damn. Yeah. They locked this place up good. There's some big frying pans in there. And boars heads. Speaker 0: There's a tree growing in the fucking living room. Speaker 1: Damn. Here's a cock. Speaker 0: I don't think there's any getting in here. I Speaker 1: mean oh, damn. With a shell. That's pretty dope. Speaker 2: And you got this fucking Speaker 1: owl thing here. That's kinda cool. I don't know how you open this here. Looks like they're in the process of constructing these these these two cabins right here. Jesus Christ. That's slippery. Alright. Found a trail to Mount Heller to Maingate. Let's go to Maingate. Oh, shit. Speaker 0: This will take me right down to the main road. Speaker 1: I mean, there's definitely some security going on over there. There's, like, this green light. A lot of monitors. Yeah. There's something over there. So I feel like there's definitely somebody in this place right here. Speaker 0: I'm not gonna fuck around and find out. Speaker 1: It looks like that's security. I think I see a bunch of screens right there. Oh, somebody padlocked this. Smart. This looks like the tool shed. Oh, it's padlocked. Ton of excavators. Speaker 0: Fucking telephone booth. Speaker 1: That's nutty. Speaker 0: Dude, my fucking maps hasn't updated in like 2 hours. I don't know where the fuck I'm at. So I somehow was being a fucking stupid idiot again, Speaker 1: and, I somehow walked out of the site. So now I need to go back into the site yet again. It's like the main road thing. There's a camera right there. This van is just open. Oh, shit. Speaker 2: Oh my god. Oh my god. Speaker 1: There's a security guard right there, Speaker 2: And he's passed out. He was passed out asleep. Speaker 1: That's fucking hilarious. Yeah. I peeked my head over that window, and there was a security guard. And he was just sleeping, And there was a cat, like, right next to him. Yeah. I've already been here. Fuck. Bruh. Speaker 0: It's like a loud noise coming from down there. I'm not sure what the fuck that is. Oh, they might be pumping water into the lake down there. I think the reservoir is actually down there now that I think about it. K. I took this, trail all the way up here, and then, yeah, heard this noise, looked at the map, realized that it was the reservoir, and now I'm going down to the owl statue because woah. Because it's actually it's literally just right down here. This is a nice Speaker 1: cabin. Jesus Christ. Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't mind staying here. They definitely got that bougie toilet paper. Yeah. This is like a new cabin. So they don't got any, don't really got any papers in here. Oh, 2023 encampment. Camp members. There's a bunch of people. The captain, Jordan Schneitzer, Bob, Alsvag, executive off officer of KPMG International 2,002 to 2,006. Included members member firms in a 150 countries and more than a 100,000 employees. Bob joined KPMG in the Denver office in 1969, was elected partner in 78. Prior positions included managing partner of the San Francisco office. He grew up in Portland. We're still resides. Four children. He the CEO and president of Schneitzer Properties. I don't know. There's a bunch of, like, weird rich guys and probably and probably have done some sketchy shit, but who knows? Apparently, this guy's 76. He doesn't look 76. Who knows? That's kinda weird to put your height and your biography but if you're 76, I guess that makes sense. Yeah. I kinda wanna take a shower right now. That'd be kinda funny. Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus. Speaker 0: Well, that's not child friendly. Gonna have to blur that. No way. No way. Are these, are these cigars? These are cigars. Wow. There's no cigars in here though. Somebody smoked all of them. It's a pretty nice little power cord. I'm not gonna lie. This is, kind of sus. There's like a lot of shit in here. Oh, wow. Cabernet Sauvignon. Speaker 2: Dumbbells. Speaker 0: Yeah. This is, Schneitzer. And this gotta be dominoes. Yep. Oh, is that a chessboard? Yeah. It is. That's crazy. That's nice. This shit's fucking heavy as fuck. That's a nice chessboard. 2019 Encampment. Walking Bohemian's home. A guide to the Bohemian grove backcountry. Looks like they got a private reserve Cabernet Sauvignon. And here it is again. It's a lot louder this time around. And they've been doing some construction. To remember Richard hoteling, high priest at this altar. You know, I've always wanted to piss on an altar. Oh, yeah. Here's the Alice statue and the altar. There's a crossover there. Let's fucking take a whiz right on the owl. Oh, shit. Right? Oh, Jesus. Yeah. I mean, the cross thing. This thing's locked. Got a bunch of gas. Oh, here's where the guy does the bell ringing. I'm definitely not gonna do that. Just asking for trouble. No way. There's a light on in here. It's locked though. Speaker 1: The fuck? Speaker 0: I mean, you can kinda see what's in there. I can actually Well, that sucks. Yeah. This is like you can actually go inside the Speaker 2: owl. Speaker 0: Oh, Oh Speaker 1: shit. Speaker 0: I mean, it's definitely just as hollow as the last time I was here. And there's a lot more water in this reservoir. There's been a ton of rain. Yeah. You can see the light coming from the inside of the owl. I mean, there shouldn't be too much to worry about back here. Speaker 1: We're, like, Speaker 0: extremely deep in the grove. And you'd think if we were gonna have any problems, we would have already had problems. But I guess we'll just have to find out. Security has seen me. This is, not good. Speaker 2: Oh my god. They have, like, helicopters. Speaker 1: I saw, like, 3 or 4 lights down there. Flashlights. I think they're, like, climbing up the mountain trying to find me. This is fucked up. I'm not sure if it's tops or security. Alright. So security pulled up on me, and I'm kinda, like, trapped. It finally caught my breath, but I was just thinking I need to hike out of here. I don't want them to, like, the police to bring dogs and try to hunt me down or some shit. That would be absolutely fucking awful. So let's get the fuck out of here. Well, I'm not sure if I got any of that on video, but I think that's a wrap for today. Fuck this shit. Speaker 0: So, unfortunately, I was, like, rattling around with my GoPro, like, right when security pulled up in a white pickup, and I, like, barely got any of it on video. It looks like absolute dog shit. Fucking trail is literally just, like, straight fucking up. It's Speaker 1: terrible. Speaker 0: Big mushroom growing on this log. Well, as they say, I fucked around and found out. Speaker 1: I don't Speaker 0: think I ran harder in my life. It's like 30 minutes later. I'm still, like, out of breath. Speaker 1: Jesus. Speaker 0: Just trying to find that old logging road. Right now, I'm going southeast, southeastward. Speaker 2: Slowly Speaker 0: making our way through the brush. But, I did find this banana slug. Oh, And well, that's just shit. This is a big fucking nanner slug Speaker 1: spotted. I'm not sure what kind Speaker 0: these are, but, that's a lot of them. Yeah. I wonder. Speaker 1: There's something right there too. Oh, there's more. Speaker 0: Well, finally made it to this trail. This is nice after bushwhacking for a few hours. Hopefully, I can find a more established road and get back to Bohemian Highway. Oh, woah. Look at that tree right there. There's a tree growing from that fallen tree in between this river. That's insane. Wow. Look at all those mushies. Can finally see the moon. It's a crescent. I think I'm somehow still on Bohemian Grove land. They have a fucking monopoly and own, like, so much of these redwoods. It's kinda fucking ridiculous. Oh, fuck me. There's a camera right there in that tree. Speaker 1: Security's security now knows exactly where I'm at. Speaker 0: I like how security knows exactly where I'm at, and there's nothing I can do about it. So, you know, just gotta stay calm. And guess I can't use the road anymore. I It It's fucking blows. The fuck is all this? People shooting skeet. Speaker 1: Damn. There's Speaker 0: a lot of skeet out here. A ton. Speaker 1: A ton of skeet. Speaker 0: Yeah. This is like a shooting range. Speaker 1: Damn. Speaker 0: Yeah. Who's number 6? K. I think we're getting close to the road now. Yeah. I think we're gonna I think we're getting closer to the road now. I had to go through, like, so many bushes, and my shins are are so fucked up. And finally out of the bushes, and it's a freaking. So, yeah, I think we're getting pretty close to the road now. I'm just gonna follow this creek down. If any bikers went missing in this area, Speaker 1: that's sketchy as shit. Speaker 0: Yo. Check this out. It's like these white jelly mushrooms. Oh my god. Oh, shit. It's spider. It's a freaking miracle. I made it. I made it to the road. We are out of the Grove

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Here’s another that happened previously.

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The full Bohemian Grove infiltration video. 🦉 What I find interesting is the owl, & the entire area hasn't been maintained, it makes me wonder if they still do rituals there? Another interesting point of the video is the dry erase board with names on it, Josh Peck? Simon P? Who are these people?

Video Transcript AI Summary
A person sneaks into Bohemian Grove, a secretive cult site in the redwoods, to see the owl statue and rituals. They navigate through rough terrain, find the owl statue, and escape undetected. The person encounters strange noises, lights, and a camera, but successfully leaves the property. They use a cast iron as a paddle, get lost in dense fog, and eventually find their kayak to safely return. The adventure ends with a sense of relief and accomplishment.
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Speaker 0: So this is the entry to, Bohemian Grove. It's like a secret cult deep in the redwoods where they host super private meetings. Presidents have been here, super powerful people with tons of money. The plan is to infiltrate the site and see what's going on. I wanna see the owl statue. We'll see if we can get in. The sun is about to set. I don't really feel comfortable doing this if it's not dark. I think the FBI is probably involved CIA, maybe. I mean, these are all rumors. I don't know. But whatever's going on in there, it's it's creepy. I'm not gonna explore too much, and I'm definitely gonna try to see that owl statue and where they do some sort of ritual. It's a man made lake. It's a reservoir, and there's a owl statue right behind it. Yeah. So apparently, the History Channel arrested in the site really long time ago, but they did. Speaker 1: I ain't got that. Speaker 2: Harry, come get let's go to the bean and jeal. When you suck. Speaker 1: When you are. Speaker 2: I have my mugshot taken. Speaker 0: Alex Jones, he, like, snuck into the site really long time ago. He snuck like a camera into the grove. Speaker 3: Now is it his sleepy temple, and all within the grove be reverent before him. Lift up your heads, oh, ye green, and be ye lifted up, ye evernash ensquire. For behold, here is Bohemia's shrine, and holy are the pillars of this house. Speaker 0: Now that right there is really, really sad to see, like, an old growth forest like that being completely destroyed and turned into a golf course. This might be the best way into the site. That water's deep, and it's cold as fuck. Speaker 1: Some workers chatting over there. Speaker 0: Golden sun. Speaker 1: Woo hoo. We got the, fucking kayak. We had a cast iron to use as a Speaker 0: as a paddle, Speaker 1: and I gotta go through all this brush with this kayak to get to the river. We got through all the hard shit. That was that was not easy. Speaker 0: This will be, like, Speaker 1: the last time I use my flashlight until we actually get to the owl. There's a road over there, and there's actually a Bohemian Grove guest house thing, like, right over there. The game plan is, go over this mountain. Don't use the road because that's exactly where they would expect me if I do trigger any sensors or cameras or anything. So go the super rough way over and down. And right now, I have to deal with this big cliff with the kayak. I'm not sure exactly how this is gonna go. Made it down somehow. Kayak's in the water. I need to keep my voice down. Fuck. My kayak's getting away from me. K. Not to get in this thing without falling in the water. Alright. I'm in the kayak. I managed to only get my hand wet. Let's disembark my trusty cast iron. Why do I feel like this shit's sinking? Is this shit sinking? Yeah. We're in the we're in the thick of it now. I think this is a kid's kayak. I think I'm too heavy for it. There's, like, some low fog on the water, and the moon is like it might be a full moon tonight. So So, I am now officially on Bohemian Grove land. There's a fishing pole right here. I think I gotta hide this kayak better just in case anybody comes in here to check out the beach for whatever reason. So Speaker 0: it looks Speaker 1: like there's an RV or a truck right there. I need to get the fuck in the trees right now before they see me or hear me. I got a feeling there's gonna be a shit ton of of bushwhacking in bulbs, and it's steep as fuck. Some prickly fucking bushes. Shit fucking hurts. Oh my. Yeah. That terrain is steep. We got a long way to go too. Oh, yeah. Look what I found. It's a little glow worm. Hey, buddy. Here you go. This place is starting to freak me out. I'm hearing very weird noises. What the fuck was that noise? I'm imagining that the people that the thing that's making the noises are like people dressed in owl costumes. I did find a road. This might be a mistake using the road, but, I'll try to be extra quiet. And if I hear anything, I'm definitely gonna just dive in the bushes and hide our first little fork in the road. We have 1, 2, 3, 4 options. That's where I came from. I'm leaning on going this way or that way. I'm gonna go this way. Look at mountain, sunny road trail museum. Okay. Look out, shall I? There's, like, the first bit of light we've seen from Bohemian, bro. I think that might actually be the front entrance. I'm not sure. Alright. There's some sort of weird gate thing down there. This trail is leading me to the front entrance, and I'm trying to get over here. So I think I have to make my own trail and go this way. We're like 300, 400 feet away from the reservoir and the owl. Let's fucking go, man. There's, like, tons of houses, and there's, like, lights on in each one of these houses. It's fucking crazy. Fuck it. I think it's probably okay. I guess we'll find out in a second here. Yeah. There's, like, actual fuck? These are the pictures. No way. I'm, like, scared to put my, I'm scared to put my flashlight on. So I'm definitely gonna come back the way I keep. So I just shot my light in here, and, all the lights all the lights just turned on. What the fuck? It's so tempting to flash my flashlight right now. Fuck. I'm not gonna do it. These are just all tables. It's like where they eat. Josh Peck. Wow. Damn. They got a lot of people to feed in here. Okay. I think I've done meth exploring. I need to find that fucking owl. No errands or gloves in the restaurant. Oh, this is aprons, not errands. So this is apparently the reservoir. It's, like, super, super low. Where the fuck is the owl statue? Is that it? Oh my god. That's it. Is that actually it? Yeah. There's like no water in this. Yeah. Here's where you see all the pictures online, and that's the, the owl statue. Holy fuck. Dude, I'm actually I'm actually here. This is insane. No way. Bohemian Grove, I made it. I actually made it. Bohemian grove bitches. I I'm here. I'm doing it. And if I shine this light for any longer, I might get fucked. Yeah. It's the owl statue. Speaker 2: What the fuck? No Speaker 1: way. This is fucking Speaker 2: cool. Oh, that's hollow. Speaker 1: They need to fill this pawn up. They do. Yeah. That's the owl. A bunch of ferns have grown on it. Well, this is this is what I wanted to see. Oh, no way. You can go, like, behind the owl. I got some owls. Well, it's time to to leave this place now. I don't know what they're doing with all this stuff. See at Bohemian Grove? Maybe I'll be back one day. I doubt it. But, yeah, shout out to, Reckless Ben. Gave me a little bit of info on how to infiltrate this place. Oh, that's gross. This is nice. I don't know why the light's on. There's, like, tons of little houses. I guess it makes sense. I kinda wanna see what that noise is, but I'm gonna get the fuck out of here. Musician's entrance. Okay. That's the guest house. Oh, there's a car right there. Yeah. I'm not gonna fuck with this place. I don't know why all the lights Speaker 0: Oh, shit. Monitored by video camera. Oh, there's a camera right on me. Speaker 1: Beach access close. Well, bro, There should be like a guard sitting in here probably. Speaker 0: It might be close, but, I need to get back to my kayak. Oh, fuck me. Speaker 1: I'm not sure which way I should go. That's one hell of a bridge. Well, yeah, hopefully, that's just motion activated, and it's not like a sensor that will notify anybody. You just have to be careful going in. Coming out, you can be a little bit less careful as you can see because you're leaving. You're not coming in. Oh, yeah. Fogs rolled in. This fog is insane. You can barely see the huge trees. I'm lost. It's foggy as shit. I don't know where my freaking kayak is. I'm stuck on Bohemian Grove property. This is not good. So I walked by this, but I don't think this is where I came from. There's, like, so many logs. Yeah. I gotta be I gotta be further down. There's gotta be okay. There's the truck. Now where the fuck is the kayak? This isn't fucking funny anymore. I need to find that, kayak. Okay. I think these are my footprints. Yep. Dude, I can't see jack shit. This fog is so dense. Oh my god. Oh my god. Cast iron. K. Now I can be not as stealth because I'm officially off Grove property. I think I gotta turn slightly right. Yeah. My beach is over there. Can't believe I'm using a Speaker 0: cast iron as a paddle. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Just like that, and the fog has nearly disappeared. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Dude. Why do I feel like I'm, like, way too big for this and the water is, like, right fucking on me. Speaker 0: Oh god. I just gotta dump my pants. Fuck. Speaker 1: Alright. Oh, shit. Alright. Coming in. Fuck. Coming in hot. Alright. Touchdown. Well, I'm happy with that. See you guys in the next video, I guess. Peace. Love. Yeah. That's all I got.
Saved - July 14, 2024 at 10:51 PM

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Some of the best Bohemian Grove footage I’ve seen so far. https://t.co/3hZfcz4QE0

Saved - July 9, 2024 at 4:30 AM

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Don’t show off in front of the goyim, they’ll figure it out! https://t.co/CR2maKDOxk

Video Transcript AI Summary
Keep a low profile by not flaunting wealth or blessings in front of others, especially non-Jews. Esav's hatred stems from jealousy over Yaakov's blessings. Avoid boasting about material possessions or family joys to those who may not have the same. It can cause pain and resentment. Instead, maintain modesty and humility in all aspects of life.
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Speaker 0: Know what you gotta do? You gotta keep a low profile. If you got a fancy car, don't show off with it in front of the guy in. You wanna build a beautiful house? Don't make it so fancy outside so that your neighbors are gonna say, wow. Look at those wealthy Jews. Keep it inside. Keep a low profile. You know what he says? He says it's unbelievable. Esav hates us. That's what Rabbi Zitra was talking about. Esav hates us because they still are angry that Yaakov took the bracha. And he says, why is it that if a person has a $100, he has to show off as if he's got 200? He's got a 1, 000, he's gotta show off that he's got 2, 000. But, boy, he said, let's keep a low profile. Don't tell the people at work, especially if they're not Jewish, about all your nachas. They don't have nachas like we have. They don't have a Friday night meal like we have. They don't have wonderful children that are giving them nachas like we have. Don't talk about your kids. Don't spread out all these chats if there are people there that don't have what you have, especially if they're not Jewish. It's hurting them. Keep a low profile.

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He’s got these kind of eyes. https://t.co/oSfXKsd35c

Saved - July 4, 2024 at 8:12 PM
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Here's a video of a Jewish meeting discussing the subversion of Poland. At first, I thought it was a prank due to their boldness. This meeting took place in 2022. It makes me wonder about similar meetings concerning other countries that we are unaware of.

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Here's a Jewish Meeting on the Subversion of Poland. https://t.co/1GAF8BRNhD

Video Transcript AI Summary
The video discusses the future of Poland and proposes various ideas. These include granting Polish citizenship to immigrants, implementing a reintegration tax to cover the costs of moving Jews to Poland, making Hebrew the second official language, and creating a minority house in the Polish parliament. Other suggestions include granting citizenship to people of Polish descent, taxing Germans to cover the costs, and redirecting Israeli tours to Poland. The video also addresses issues related to the Catholic Church, women's rights, and the importance of culture and the arts. The proposal of Birthright Poland, a government-funded youth travel program, is also discussed.
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Speaker 0: Today, we will discuss the future of Poland as suggested by the delegates sitting around this table. We shall start with Swazomir Tsiolkovsky's proposal. Speaker 1: 1, Polish citizenship to all immigrants. 2, reintegration tax to cover the costs of moving 3, 300, 000 Jews to Poland. 3, Hebrew as the second official language in Poland. 4, dismissal notice of the Polish state concerning the concubate with the Vatican state. Each religious institution should act on the same level. 5, minority house instead of senate in Polish parliament. Speaker 2: I think we could even extend that by by even granting citizenship to people who are of Polish descent who haven't asked for it. So we just mail the passports to people in Israel and in the States and they get them in the mail. And then this way they don't even have to go to the embassy. And I think this would this would really serve the agenda of this moment because I think if they receive this passport, they'd say, well, I might as well go and see what they want. Speaker 3: Yeah. I just wanted to know who has to pay the tax. Is it the Polish people, which would be okay Speaker 4: for me? Or is it Speaker 3: to be shared all over the world? Or who is doing this? Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it wouldn't be bad to tax the Germans, of course, which is what you're implying, of course. I think it wouldn't be bad. I think this would also be the first, it would be a precedent because it would be the first case of 1 country taxing the citizens of another country. I think this would be a marvelous international precedent. I think that's, a kind of absurd gesture. It would be wonderful. Speaker 5: I wonder why Hebrew should be the second language since, I think most of or maybe half. I don't know how many of the Jews with Polish ancestry who are not in Poland speak Hebrew. I'd say there are many more who speak other languages, for example, Spanish, Portuguese. I Speaker 4: think that the the idea is to revive the jewelry that used to live in Poland, back then, and the Speaker 6: language was, mostly, Speaker 4: Yiddish and and Polish in a way, but in in any way, not Hebrew. Speaker 7: I would rather suggest language in Poland, actually Vietnamese language, because today the the our, our minority in Poland is Vietnamese minority, and actually they are inhabiting the former Jewish ghetto part in Warsaw also. So, I would see those things also together. Speaker 8: According to the official church statistics, we have 90 6% of Catholics in Poland, I think if I'm not wrong, which is, a powerful weapon in the hands of the Catholic church, who says we can't have legal abortion in Poland, for example, because we have 96% of people who, by definition, are against abortion. The regulation that was that is imposed by the Catholic church is that you have to go to the church in which you were baptized together with 2 adult witnesses. And you have to go there twice because for the first time that you go, the local priest is obliged to preach to you for approximately 1 hour, trying to convince you not to step out of the church. And only after you reconfirm, yes, I do want to please be excommunicated, can you actually, finish this process and stop being member of the Catholic church. I think this is against human rights, and, I think that we as a movement should campaign, to allow our members, religious freedom, actually, in the sense of an easy way out of the institution with which maybe they do not necessarily identify themselves with. Speaker 7: We have to forbid the so early baptizing. You can be baptized when you are old, which is a nature. It's cruel and crazy to baptize someone who is unconscious. I'm for a multicultural country and multi religion and preexisting all religion together. But for Polish Catholic church, I would like to give some condition to this church, and said that you can exist in our country together with other religions, but in 1 condition. You should ordinate make decide for ordination of women for priests, it's first condition, and second, accept the homosexual marriages. And then after this condition, Polish church can exist. And that's my Speaker 2: Yeah, I think on a very similar issue, I think I, of course, agree with Kinga's statements about limiting all religions should be equal. We voted on this today. All religions should be treated the same. This would mean that we wouldn't allow circumcision. Dismissal notice of Speaker 0: the Polish State concerning the concordant with the Vatican State. Each religious institution should act on the same level. We have 1 no and 48 yes. So that will become a part of the agenda. Speaker 7: So my proposal is mainly about the problem of inviting also to Poland, not only 3, 000, 000 and half of those men, but also maybe some those women because all the time when we say Jews, we mean general demand. But if you want to invite someone to Poland, you must really also ask the gender question. How we'll feel in today's Poland, the women which try to live in the Poland? No reasonable woman will like to settle in country where abortion is forbidden. It's extremely humiliating. But to change all of this, we must change something very basic, I say. We have to change the mentality of Polish men. We should limit hating men's involving in all kinds of governments. I think it's a kind make of kind of parity quotes. And I think maximum 30% for men, it's more than enough. And it in this way, Polish men find how it will how it looks like living in the place where you don't have power, and it's very useful for them. Speaker 9: Is discrimination a good response to discrimination? Is it the only way to achieve the equality, to discriminate those who are discriminating someone before? Is there any other option? Speaker 7: Always someone who discriminates, give the say the this kind of Speaker 10: comments. It's a good thing for people who oppress, and oppression can be something, you know, very passive. You just take rights. You just take them for granted. It's a good thing for people who have rights for granted to once not to have them. Right? A good thing for people who don't get to stand in checkpoints to have to check stand in checkpoints, etcetera, etcetera? Speaker 11: We always think maybe of a certain type of Jewish people that we want to invite. And, this is just an open question. Like, what is our desire? Like, whom do we want to have back? Because, you know, Meir Shahim's ways of of putting things in life and the and the violent, traditions there, It's actually so much connected to what we have already in Poland. And I'm just posing this question. We want to invite everybody. Speaker 2: As the American Republicans have found out, the minute they stopped being racist, and anti immigrants, they realized that a lot of immigrants and people from minorities are actually on their side in being homophobes, misogynists, and so on and so forth. So in fact, immigrants, especially from from poor countries, tend to be an ally in the repressive mechanisms of the patriarchy. So this is again the question of whom do we want? Because it seems like in the imagery that Yael Bartana used in the first film, where Swabek Sharikovsky, gives his speech in in in Warsaw at the stadium. The imagery she uses, suggests that the Jews that we want back are the liberal urban Jews. We want Franz Kafka, you know, Bruno Schultz, We want Emma Goldman to come to Poland. That's whom whom was inviting and hoping that they would all be like this. When so so I I think we've come up I think the question of of patriarchy is a very, very important question and and and 1 that really, forces us to define the scope or the the the ideas or the goals of of of of this movement. Because why why use why why why create a movement that will again create a repressive another repressive society? Speaker 7: Yes. We want to invite also Jewish people who are not so liberal, and we want to be for them liberal. But we want to avoid the situation when any kind of religion movement will dominate the political situation or cultural situation, and also we don't want patriarchal hat in our country, and that's all. In Iceland, after the the speculation, the financial crash, actually what was observed in this progressive society is that the banking was too much testosterone driven and they are, they are considering now the anti testosterone implementations or rules, for banking sector not to be dominated by men. My idea, it's not totally changing the world and Poland forever, but it's a temporarily temporary solution. Because now we have domination of men and domination of Catholic church, so we have to stop it to teach this man and this organization to be in equal or even lower position for some time, to have for them a new experience how to not be in power and but in a lower position. That's how it meant it's to open Poland for women, Jewish women and other women, also Polish women. Speaker 0: We have 2 no and 44 yes. So the proposal is accepted into the agenda. Speaker 7: I would like to speak about certain tourism, which is going on between Poland and Israel since last 20 years quite intensively. And I mean, Israeli youth delegations to Poland and also, Polish religious pilgrimage to holy land to Israel. What I propose, it's actually, through redirection of those tours to question the Polish, still existing nationalism, anti semitism, and hostility. Somehow rebrand Poland as Germany did it very well, rebrand itself towards a Jewish perception. So what could be done? I mean, this is just an opening question, and I hope we can discuss it with how these tours, and also pilgrimages in Israel could be redirected. First of all, I think, what should be included is also that these tours also should go to Germany, both to Poland and Germany. I mean, to the sites of the former concentration camps, but not only in Polish territory? Speaker 2: The Israeli tours for young people are organized by the state. They're they're a function of the state and then are, and have a concrete function. Their function is to have young people come to Poland, and the very obvious message that they get is if you don't go and fight for Israel, this will happen to you. This is what this why these trips exist, create a kind of subversion that we create all sorts of opportunities for these participants to go and sneak away from their groups during these trips and create, young people coming from Israel to be, to get this message could these young people coming from Israel to be to to get this message could have all sorts of, temptations, Polish temptations, that would lure them away from this military. And they would want then they would associate with, wow, Poland was this incredibly sexy place where there are all these wonderful things, but I had to listen to these terrible, to these terrible things that that that that my that my military, you know, that the adviser from the military kept on telling me that I wanted to go and meet boys or meet girls and do all these things. So I think that the sexual element here and the element of hormones is incredibly important and is what we can build upon here. Speaker 12: I want Poland to be the country which is, you know, ready to welcome the other, but I'm not quite sure, do I want Poland to be a touristic attraction. I don't I don't find those things equal. So that is my question. Do you really see the link between tourism and welcome Speaker 7: the other? The first visited place out of all cultural institutions is Auschwitz, of course, with 1, 000, 000 visitors per year. And the second is the castle of Krakow with 500, 000, so 50% less. And also, we can see in Krakow on the daily basis the leaflets, stating in 1 day 99 zlotys, Auschwitz, Rafting and Bylichka and the free pickup. Speaker 13: Do Do you Speaker 12: think that we should really make it part of the Jewish Renaissance Movement to make those, to make those, I don't know, those, to make Poland, touristic attraction. Speaker 7: It is quite important, I guess, also to create a situation that we also are in the dialogue, and not only observed through the windows of the bus. Okay. Speaker 8: So how would you like to redirect those people, those Catholic Poles who go to Israel to see besides where Jesus lived and died? What what is your idea there? Speaker 7: I think first, they have to, understand holy land, but also to the modern, country. Speaker 2: Tourism is important for the because it's a tool just to clarify these the comments made, because it's a tool to achieve the goals of this movement. Speaker 14: As a North American Jew, I think that it cannot be underestimated the extent to which these kinds of travel programs influence the Jewish world's perception of Poland. And changing the Jewish world's perception of Poland has to be the first step for any support of a movement like this. Speaker 15: If the our if the goal okay. It has to serve our goal. But they're just relocating Jews. So it's also it's, not a goal in itself. It has broader goals. But if the broader goal is promotion of Polish state, that I'm what I hear here, then I'm sorry. I can, I cannot buy it? Yeah. I'm sorry. So if we are getting rid of 1 nationalism of Israeli state to create another nationalism, which might be multicultural, multinational, good, it will be even stronger, the country, if it will have not only Poles, but Jews. But it's if it's all about promotion of the state, then I don't know what we're doing here. Speaker 10: As long as, we do not abolish the concept of citizenship, we are not doing anything with the nation state. So we can change numbers, we can change, the configuration for sure, but it is not true that we are changing the logic of the nation state. Today, universal human rights are guarded and protected by 1 mechanism only, citizenship. And as long as that mechanism is in perhaps we don't have an alternative, it's not to suggest that, but but that is what Nation State is. That is the system that keeps that in place, and that has not been challenged. So in that sense, she is right. There is a suggestion of removal of population from 1 nation state into another nation state, which will have, you know, a multi, cultural population and perhaps even will not be called Poland anymore, but something else. It will still be a nation state. Speaker 0: Maybe you can do that once again, Joanna, so it can be clear for us what what the proposal is. Speaker 7: Subvert the route of Israeli delegations to Poland and Polish pilgrimage tours to Israel with the help of Poles, Jews, and Germans. Speaker 0: Yes. Thank you. We have 7 no and 43 yes. So Janowarsha's proposal will become a part of the agenda of the Jewish renaissance movement in Poland. Speaker 2: The state of Poland should devote 15% of its annual budget to culture and the arts. 15% of its annual budget to culture and the arts. This is the state central state budget. Let me explain how this should work. The the current situation for those of you who aren't from from Poland is that the state of Poland devotes less than dedicates less than 1% of its annual budget to culture and the arts, which is, I think, the lowest in the European Union and 1 of the lowest around the world. It would create a creativity vacuum, meaning that we have more demand for creative people than we have in Poland. This would provoke all the Israelis from Tel Aviv, to go back to our, original point, would move to Sopot, which is also by the sea in Poland. And so this is how we convinced them. We said we have a lot of money for the arts. You can come. You can live by the sea in Sopot. So it would really develop Sopot. But also, I mean, they could move to other places as well. You know, everybody could move where they wanted to, of course. The creativity vacuum would draw creative people from everywhere, from around the world. So it's also a form, you could say, of creative warfare because we would create a brain drain from all the other countries. So this is good for the economy, of course. These creative people and this is, you know, the key. The creative people, the total culture plan would create an ideas bank. So we would have more ideas than any society has ever had. We would have so many ideas. We would be able to solve all problems. Yes? Every because just imagine with I'm we're talking about 1, 000, 000 and 1, 000, 000 of whatever currency you can imagine. Everybody will be able to think and and think of concepts and and and solve whatever problems we think about. We'll be able to solve problems that we haven't even thought about today. Speaker 3: First, I thought it's really a great idea but then I envisioned it and then I thought, like, you want us to to become this movement, just another Green Party, and now you suggest that, Poland just becomes another Berlin Mitter. That is really, a horrible thought. I don't want to live in a place where there are more artists and creative people around than already are here. Speaker 2: Would also redress historical wrongs in the sense that the situation of Poland, which is also very different from Mitte, is that the situation of Poland is as Czeslaw Milosz has written, that we don't Poland doesn't have material works of art, not because they weren't never created, but because they were destroyed. And this was done by the very concrete historical force, Nazi Germany. This is the the loss of Speaker 13: culture is is is unimaginable. Not all the countries which are represented by us today here need that. Poland needs that. Maybe Sweden and Germany doesn't need that because they already have it. But somehow, we have to take into consideration that, for example, for for some countries, this is a reality or this would be a radical change. That would be a visionary thing. So I would suggest that first, let's have the meter also in Poland and then, you know, let's deal with it. For for example, Speaker 10: I come Speaker 13: from Greece. If that would happen in Greece right now, Speaker 16: I don't know. Speaker 13: I mean, you can imagine that would be a revolution. I thought it Speaker 16: was a kind of subversive affirmation of the creativity, rhetorics that we usually hear from neoliberal politicians. But the more I listen to you, the more it seems like you're really just affirming and not being subvert subversive at at all. I heard you say several very symptomatic things. 1 of them was, for an example, it's not about art. It's about creativity. That's the first 1. The second 1 is, we were spending a lot of time explaining to politicians about how good art would be for the economy, and so on. The problem is, just to say it very, very simply, you can't increase arts funding without radically looking at every at all the other funding that's going on. You can't go in this direction and think that arts funding will solve something from the top down. Culture will do something. I just I really want to say that I really strongly disagree with you in the way you framed your argument, the way you've laid it out. So I'm going to vote against you, and I would ask everyone else to vote against you too. The the the the thing is not for us to get more funding, but to bring more meaning to the things that we do. Speaker 2: What I emphasize, of course, this huge amount of money go to all sorts of artistic projects. But what I'm emphasizing and I I think I've made this point very clear. I'm emphasizing vast amounts of culturally underprivileged people all around Poland who have no access to culture. This is what I'm emphasizing. So I'm really not saying that organizations such as the Berlin Dianada should get more money. I'm really saying that somebody who lives in a very underprivileged area of Poland should have the access to learning to play an instrument, which then does increase also their chances in the world. It does. And I don't think that's such a bad thing that it increases their chances of, in the world. I wanted to just say there was a very important precedent to this, which is the WPA's art program in the 19 thirties as part of the new deal, in which, tons and tons of money during the Great Depression in America went to the creation of artworks. And this program, supported such artists as Tennessee Williams and Jackson Pollock and lists, I could list a 100 more and did create actually great works of art. So that was a response to a to a to a point made before and enabled in fact American culture as we know it, which became so dominant in the 50, 60, seventies to exist. Speaker 10: Something is is is a bit of a concern for me here in the sense of what is it that we are believing in. Right? What is this this, building narrative that is going to liberate us? Because still, again, what I hear behind is forces of the unadvantaged, the barbaric, etcetera, that will be uplifted. And so, I'm not suggesting that you are saying that, but I need a clarification. Otherwise, I cannot vote for that. Great. Speaker 0: Thank you. So now is the opportunity for you, Michal, to summarize, in your The state Speaker 2: of Poland should devote 15% of its annual budget to culture and the arts. Okay. And we will, Speaker 0: concurrent with our new voting methods, we will vote now on Michel's proposal. 25 no and 33 yes. So this, this proposal will be, accepted into the agenda. Speaker 8: The first step for any mass return of Jews to Poland is to remap Polish Jewish memory. It is the physical, material environment of the nation, monuments, memorials, tourist routes that scaffolds our sense of national identity. We want to change this ecosystem of memory with a comprehensive program we call Birthright Poland. Birthright Israel is the program that offers a free trip to Israel for every diaspora Jew. Birthright Poland adapts this principle for the needs of the, Polish Renaissance Movement in Poland. Birthright Poland Speaker 14: is a Polish government funded youth travel program. It brings Jewish youth to Poland to explore the country's long and diverse history with their Polish, German, Roma, Ukrainian, Belarusian, and other European counterparts. Instead of Jewish youth visiting Poland's landscape of Nazi camps, the international group will go camping. Campgrounds will be located in Polish forests. The forest is a space of possibility, not yet mapped in the service of any 1 group's memory. It is a space ripe for reimagining. Speaker 8: Birthright Poland campers will reinvent long standing camping traditions. These young pioneers will build settlements by learning ancestral construction techniques. Each group will build on the work of the former, preparing a welcoming landscape for the first wave of Renaissance Movement, Reuterneese. Speaker 14: News sites will announce the deeds, creations, and achievements of ethnically diverse Polish women and men from a variety of historical moments. Speaker 8: Many maps of Jewish heritage in Poland look like this, where Polish Jewish heritage is reduced to Nazi death camps and ghettos. We have drafted a second map to feature an evolving landscape of diversity and cultural sharing, inspiring new generations of Poles and Jews to reimagine their roots, but also to embrace their futures. As an old Jewish legend has it, it was in the forest that the first Jewish travelers to Poland discovered their God given home. According to the legend, entering the woods, they saw a passage from the Talmud engraved on every tree, And they knew they had come to the land where their ancestors dwelled. And they called the place Pauline, which in Hebrew means here you shall find a haven. If Jewish life in Poland started in a forest, maybe it can restart in the forest as well. Speaker 11: Israeli people who just they just love the idea of forests and exchanging deserts for forests. So it'll be very tempting for them. You have big pictures of of, like, very old trees. They'll be attracted immediately. Yeah. Speaker 8: So the forest is not only a counter metaphor to the image that many people, many Jews worldwide have of Poland, of Poland being a gray country. They imagine Poland in black and white with gray skies. Jews tend to be attracted to Speaker 10: urban spaces, coffee, cakes. I don't know. IIII really am questioning the forest as a size of site of Jewish, rejuvenation. The settler idea yes. But if you notice, most of the settlers in Palestine, look at the the it's pretty spare. They like like condos that look very like, more like Hitler's bunker than than like, forests. So just thought, I'm not against the forest. I just think that the bond will need to be pursued a lot more aggressively. It's not a natural 1. Jews will not go for forests. Speaker 0: And our proposal from, Magdalena Waligorska and Erica Lehrer, I ask you now to vote. Birthright, Poland. 10 no and 40 yes. So birthright Poland will become part of the agenda.

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For the first 7-8 minutes I thought this video was a prank or something because of how bold they are about their plans lol.

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This was also in 2022, from what I can find so far.

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Now think about all the meetings about all the other countries we don’t get to see…

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The Holocaust Lie - David Irving (Summer 1995) Bookmark & Share. https://t.co/GUfFhBbZiW

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In this video, British historian David Irving shares his experiences as a writer and the challenges he has faced in publishing his books, particularly his controversial work "Hitler's War." Irving questions the mainstream narrative of the Holocaust, arguing that there is a lack of evidence linking Hitler to the atrocities. He emphasizes the importance of freedom of speech and criticizes laws that criminalize questioning historical events. Irving also mentions his legal battles and attempts to silence him, but remains determined to uncover the truth and fight for his right to express his views. The speaker also challenges the concept of innocence in war crimes and questions the use of the word "genocide" in relation to the Holocaust. He presents evidence challenging the existence of gas chambers and criticizes the financial implications and propaganda surrounding the Holocaust. The speaker concludes by highlighting the need for an even-handed approach to historical analysis and mistrusts the influence of the United Nations on freedom of speech.
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Speaker 0: I've already thanked you all for coming. Those of you here tonight that have heard David Irving speak are aware of his abilities of an order, and no doubt that's why you've come. Those who are not familiar with his speaking abilities but have read his books will not be disappointed. Anyone here not familiar with tonight's speaker is in for a real treat. Those of you who have not yet been exposed to history that has been made according to the facts may be in for a surprise. If that's the case, do not be aggravated at the bearer of the truth, but rather the repeater of the lies. The works of David Irving are irrefutably documented, so much so that his 15 year old $1,000 challenge to anyone that proves him wrong remains uncollected. On the other hand, however, we have the documentaries and historical accounts by the mainstream media. The same people who give us things like the disgusting WEBN billboards and the Mapplethorpe exhibits. One should be suspect of even the page numbers by used by people who produce such trash. Because a solid understanding of history is present and anticipating the future, people are most interested in historical questions during times of crisis or when the future seems most uncertain. Today is a good time for an interest in history. Too many people are aware of the symptoms of our trouble but cannot finger the cause. Like ice water thrown on heavy sleepers, the Clinton administration has been shock therapy to wake up complacent Americans to the symptoms. But how many realize the extent that disease ridden, internationalist parasites have infected our republic independent of the Clintons? Americans need to understand and inform themselves on the origins and causes of the present ills we suffer from. We must destroy the roots of this ignominious growth before it takes us over. It will cure little to focus only on the Clinton administration as the main problem, offensive though it is. To remedy our current situation, we must cut away the dead tissue remaining from all the previous internationalist, socialistic, and anti Christian policies upon which these parasites feed. We must reevaluate the Speaker 1: propaganda and lies leveled at Speaker 0: us from media and government, Speaker 1: not Speaker 0: Surely, no one thinks that today's treasonous policies were hatched or suckled overnight. This is relatively easy to qualify by pointing out just a few examples of the various tactics, lies, and deceptions spewed at us throughout this century, such as the Federal Reserve Acts of 19 13 and 1933. Our money is controlled by a few international banking houses, not by Congress. As Amschel Rothschild once stated, let me control the money of a nation and I care not who makes its laws. We were dragged in of these international Of course, to justify for the men leaving their wives and mothers to go fight a war across the ocean, Americans were bombarded with propaganda. Unfortunately, the truth and what people are told are very seldom the same. This is true especially in the time of war. One of the most internationalist, socialistic, communist sympathizing men we've had in the White House to date was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Despite some of his campaign speeches, his desire was great to again embroil the US into war at the behest of the international bankers. Again, the propaganda machine worked overtime to stir up hatred of the Germans. With Bolshevik communism as our ally, we were told that Russia's victories were our victories, that America had to fight to save the world to save democracy, that we had to fight for freedom. What we actually did was save communism for Europe. Our intervention not only kept the bloodiest regime in history alive, it added to its expansion. At Yalta, Roosevelt, and Churchill acquiesced to Stalin the peoples and countries of Eastern Europe so much for our fight for freedom. As the Hungarians have said, gladly would we suffer again the worst experiences of our history, even the waging of world war on our own soil. But God save us from another liberation. In spite of the now popular so called victory celebrations, this country has plenty of room for regret. Adding to the deceitful global policeman policies, we were also lied to about the income tax, Social Security, welfare, the Korean War, Vietnam, the missing POWs, and on and on. If Americans had a better understanding of the sellouts that have been perpetrated by so many preceding administrations, which definitely include Republican ones, People would be ashamed to advertise things like, don't blame me. I voted for Bush. Today, the conservative today, the terms conservative and liberal are so vented about, they have about as much contrast and usage as Republican and Democrat. The only difference between a conservative Republican internationalist and a liberal Democrat one is the ride. Your destination is the same. People who understand this are reviled as isolationists. The best definition of an isolationist that I've heard to date is someone who is against the subsidizing or the slaughter of foreigners. Some great men of the past who have been reviled as isolationists are vindicated by historians such as David Irving. David Irving was born in Essex, England in 1938. He is the son of a Royal Navy commander. He received his college education at London University. As an example of Irving's dedication to accuracy, he worked for a whole year in a steel mill in Germany to perfect his fluency and knowledge in the German language. While working there, Irving began gathering information on the history of those cities that had experienced the full impact of allied bombardment during World War 2. After 4 years of the research, his first book, The Destruction of Dresden, was published. It was 1963, and he was 23 years old. This book alone has sold over a 1000000 copies. He has been described as Britain's most financially successful historian. His bestseller, The Desert Fox, earned 250,000 in US paperback rights alone. In 1967, Hugh Trevor Roper described him as one of the, quote, few guys I would entirely trust, indefatigable in pursuit of evidence, fearless in the face of it, sound in judgment, end quote. In 71, the London Times said David Irving takes his place in the first rank of historical chroniclers. Irving, who had been highly acclaimed both by critics and the most the world's most prestigious publishing houses, fell from their grace with Hitler's war when he chose to stick with the facts uncovered in his 10 years of research put into the book, thus proving that Irving is more interested in truth than book sales. He was especially reviled after his book Uprising, which pulled no punches about the Hungarian Uprising of 1956. He was subsequently blacklisted by the ADL of the Bnei Braith. This meant that he was shut out of the big name publishing houses despite their praise of him in the past. Rather than wilt under this discriminatory treatment, Irving turned to alternate publishers, rented a truck, and personally delivered his books to over 480 bookstores throughout England. Determined to defeat him but always unwilling to meet him for debate, his rivals have used various methods in their attempts to dispose of him, such as burglary, arson, and false arrest. It's burglary in that Gerald Gable, a former communist election candidate and later a weekend television producer, big surprise, was convicted for burglarizing Irving's file using a stolen post office identity card. He admitted membership in an underground organization which had ordered him to steal Irving's research papers to prevent the work on his next book. Arson in that the Sussex Printing Works where Irving's Magazine Focal Point was produced was burnt to the ground by one of Gable's associates who was caught red handed and later received the prison sentence. False arrest in countries such as Austria and Canada, which it's possible the author may touch upon tonight in his talk. Through all of this, the world's most combative and prolific historian remains undaunted. And although his tenacity and obstinacy for the truth has cost him no small amount, His works are still being published by impressive firms and widely read despite the efforts of his enemies. To quote his slogan, the fight continues to final victory, expensive though it is. With men of Irving's character, we stand on the shoulders of giants. But in his case, we may even reach farther by standing on a stack of his books, books that you can count on due to his British obstinacy to uncover the truth, a knack for which he has become famous. Lastly, we will pass around the hat tonight to pay for tonight's expenses. Room rental alone is nearly $500, and the refreshments are extra. There was no door charge because it was hoped that everyone would give what they could afford. All money over expenses go to support David Irving in his fight for truth. Please be generous. Now it is my pleasure to introduce and welcome our eloquent speaker, the very British historian, David Irving. I will go ahead and start Speaker 2: Well, ladies and gentlemen, I guess there wasn't very much else on in Cincinnati tonight. I'm astonished at the numbers of you who have turned out to hear me. I know very few of the faces who are here this evening, and very few of you have met me the hour that I'm going to speak. You'll have a 10 or 15 minute break after that, and then I'll be very happy to take any questions that you want to ask any kind of discussion after that. So let's have no interruptions while I'm talking. You'll have a discussion after the interval. I'm hoping that you will find it a rewarding journey the coming 60 minutes. Talking of journeys, I've been on the road for the last 7 days driving up from the very southernmost point in the United States. And over the next 3 weeks, my speaking tour, which tonight is the first actual engagement, will take me in a zigzag course from here right up to the Great Lakes and across to New Jersey and back down to the southernmost point in Key West. And then the very next day over to Los Angeles, and I drive up to Seattle and back and then across to Denver and Colorado, all between now October 23rd. And I do this every year. And you can begin to understand why I'm a thorn in the side of certain people who have a vested interest in propagating their own version of history, which may have very little to do with American interests or with British interests, but it has become big business. And the latter part of my talk will be devoted really to examining parts of that great legend. This drive up here from the southernmost point has, however, been useful in one way because it has enabled me to brush up on my spoken American. I speak quite a lot of languages. We learn a lot of languages at school. We learn, in my case, French and German and Russian and Latin and all the other useful or useless languages that you need in your journey through life. But nobody ever told me as a writer that I was going to need to learn American. What until I wrote my Adolf Hitler biography, which was published over here by the Viking Press, one of the great names in the publishing industry. And that's when I first discovered that writers, if they want to succeed in life, have to learn to write and read and speak a kind of mid Atlantic English. Was Winston Churchill, I think, who once said or was it before him George Bernard Shaw that the English language that the British and the American peoples are divided by a common language. And I didn't understand how true that was until this book was being edited by my American editor, Stan Hoffman. And he would come on sentences in this book, which showed to me how very different our life. For example, there's a passage after the bomb attempt on Adolf Hitler's life in July 1944 when the traitors have put a bomb on the Adolf Hitler's table and attempt to kill him, but the war's darkest past for Germany. And he survives that attempt shaken but not stirred, and he goes down into his bunker bedroom with his pants or I would say his trousers in tatters in his shirt sleeves, and he sits on the edge Speaker 1: of his bed in his shirt sleeves and braces Speaker 2: and feels his own pulse, 73. And he says to his doctor whose diary I found, you see quite normal. 73. And I described this in the book. My American editor says, Dave, a great scene. I like it, but we're gonna have to change that sentence a bit. You can't say the Fuhrer sat on Speaker 1: the edge of his bed in his shirt sleeve and braces Speaker 2: and tells his pulse. It's gonna have to be he sat on the edge of his bed in his shirt, sleeves, and suspenders. Now what you don't know is that in England, suspenders is what a woman wears to hold her stockings up, what you would call a garter belt. Speaker 1: So the idea of the fuhrer of Speaker 2: the greater German right being some kind of prevert who who sits in his bedroom wearing a lady's garter belt to hold his stockings up, That's there was no way around it. That sentence had to go. We had to cut it out. And then we had Ribbentrop, the the Nazi foreign minister I I described in one part our, he had a skeleton in the cupboard too. That's the English expression. The mid American editor, Stan Hoffman, said, David, we're gonna have to change that. It's gonna have to be written for a head of skeleton in the closet. Now in England, a closet or water closet is what you people call a bathroom. Not that we English tourists expect now to find a bath in that bathroom. Is what the Australians call a dunny or you Americans call a John. I mean, it's a it's a a language problem. We are that sentence had to go as well. We are tyrannized by language, and so that sentence was cut out. As part of the growing up process of being an author, you learn how to write. I like the American language. I think it's a very virile language or virile, you would say, virile language. I like to talk of trucks instead of lorries because it has a bit more punch that word. And so you find my books, those of you who've read them, that I've got a kind of mid atlant mid atlantic argot, which I've adopted for my books. So I thoroughly irritate everybody now. It annoys the English people who write to me and say, don't you know how spell labor and favor, mister Irving? Don't you know they have use in those words over here? And, of course, I annoy the American readers who find all sorts of Anglicisms. They there's this this English touch, which irritates the pants of the American readers. And in particular, my editors, we I had a general who is being summoned to Hitler, and it's quite obvious that he was going to be sentenced to death. And I say the general was sentenced to Hitler, and it was obvious he couldn't expect a promotion that afternoon. And my editor, he said, you English write that kind of thing with a kind of levity. We Americans, we we can't get away with it. So that sentence had to go as well. It irritates people, but I've been accustomed to irritating people in the last 20 or 30 years because I'm an independent writer. An independent in as much as I don't work for anyone and I can't be sacked. I've got no university position. I'm not a professor. I'm not a doctor, which is very important in Germany to have a doctor's title in front of your name. Even chimney sweeps a doctor this and doctor that in Germany or Austria. I'm just playing mister David Irving, so I can't be dismissed. I can't be dismissed from a school. I can't be dismissed now from a publishing house because I set up my own publishing house. When I published the new edition of this book in England, I set up what is called my own imprint. Because I recognize that the day is going to come when so much pressure has been put by these vested interests on my publishers around the world that I don't have another publisher left who is going to publish me unless I built my own publishing house. So I did that too. I set up my own publishing imprint in England called Focal Point. That's the big f on the back. Not Fuhrer, not fascist, not anything else. Just focal point, the publishing imprint. The only thing that my enemies in England can do now, and they've been trying it, is when I started studying this book and as Rick said, I've been around a lot of bookshops in England. I like it. It's not 450 bookshops. In fact, the actual total now is 8 70 bookshops in England who sell my books directly delivered by me, and they can't be intimidated, or perhaps they can because for a long time, these people, these the people I call the traditional enemies of the truth, they indulged 2 years ago in a stone throwing campaign. They started smashing the windows of every big bookstore that still stocked my books in an attempt to persuade the bookstore managers through their insurance companies through the back door not to sell my books. And it's an interesting spectacle because I look on this, I don't mind. I'm not in it for the money. Unlike the traditional enemy as I call them, I'm not in anything for the money. My poor wife, she sometimes frantic with fear as to what's going to happen next week or the week after that. In this small confidential circle, ladies and gentlemen, I can mention the fact that a week ago, I won a colossal libel action against one of England's biggest newspapers. Purely by chance, they libeled me on July 30th. They published something really stupid about me that was so stupid that there was no feasible defense. They took a document that I published in 1982, a document in which Adolf Hitler years ago, 70 years ago with a bill of the Bavarian financier back in 1922. Hitler talking to the Bavarian financier in the Hotel Stearjarra site in Munich, and Hitler saying to this financier, if I ever come to power, which he did, of course, 15 years later, if I ever come to power, then I am going to settle scores with the Jews. Then he said, I spent all my life fighting the Jews, not as a race, but as a religion. If I come to power, then there's going to be a solution of the Jewish problem. And I found the actual shorthand record taken by this financier's secretary of the conversation between these two men back in 1922 when both of them, the financier and Adolf Hitler, were hardly heard of. And I published this in 1982 in a journal I published called Focal Point. On the stupid newspaper on July 30 this year, I published that document with a small mistake. They thought it was I who said these words. I spent all my life fighting the Jews. When I come to power, there's gonna be a solution of the Jewish problem. No. No defense. Under the libel laws of England, they had no defense whatsoever, and so I was able I served the writ on them. I I I took them to the to the court. We sold Speaker 1: the whole matter within the Speaker 2: last 2 months. Very enjoyable experience. It shows that you can fight back, and I am fighting back now because I'm tired of As I told the newspaper thank you. As I told the newspaper I told the newspaper lawyers as we went into court, I said for 30 years I've had to put up gritting my teeth with you newspapers saying slimy things about me in a roundabout way so that you could just get off the occupy studio. And I've been waiting for the open and shut case which would give me the chance to do what I'm doing today. And that's when that day came. And they hated me for it, but they had to write out the check, and it came a week ago. And until then, it's been touch and go, but I'm going to be invulnerable now for the next year or 2 so I can resume I can resume saying what I've always wanted to say. As Rick told you, I am a professional historian. That is to say I'm not an academic historian. I don't spend my life sitting behind a desk in a university or a school with no time to go out into the field doing research. I write my books from the archives. When I wrote my very first book, The Destruction of Dresden, I took trouble to find 300 allied airmen who took part in that catastrophic air raid on Dresden in 1945 It's survivors who had been on the ground at the receiving end of that appalling air raid which killed over a 100000 people in 20 minutes. We did that. I never knew about that. When I was a steel worker in Germany working in the steel works in 1960, one of my fellow steel workers told me what happened that night in Dresden. I was ashamed because I, as an Englishman, had never been told that. And I thought, if I've never been told that, then probably 50,000,000 other English people have never been told that too. And I decided to go and research that. 1st, I was going to write just a newspaper article, then I realized it was far bigger than that. It was a it was a major story. When that book was published by the little respectable English publishing house back in 1963, and it was serialized by England's Sunday Telegraph Newspaper, which really gave it the push to make sure the book was a success. The book became a bestseller. And suddenly, those of you young people sitting in the audience here who still don't know what you're gonna do when you grow up, take heart from me from the fact that at that time I was 23 years old and I had no idea what I was going to do with my life. I didn't know what I was going to do, but that book became a bestseller and so I decided to become a writer. I decided to become a historian, and that's what I did the next few years. I've learned it from then until now. In fact, for the 1st few years, it was a pretty routine matter, humdrum. I wrote a book and I had a daughter and I wrote another book and I had another daughter and I wrote a 3rd book and I had a 3rd daughter, and I wrote a 4th book and I had a 4th daughter. And then for 30 years, I ran out of steam and I just wrote books until about a year ago. I've got a 2 year old daughter now, so the I've got 5 daughters. It's a history of of misfortune, I suppose. But the books have continued to come. I've written 30 books since then and now most of them have vanished. They're not available on the table now. In fact, this evening, I've sold the final remaining copies of 2 or 3 of my titles. I found them. Unfortunately, among the effects of the man who I commissioned to set up a bookstore for me here in South Carolina 18 months ago, and he was doing a fine job until he was shot in his sleep in the back of his head execution style on February 23rd this year down in Greer in South Carolina. We still don't know what's behind that. And I had the sad duty on my drive up here the last 5 or 6 days of picking up the remaining stock for books from him and, loading them aboard the car. 30 books. What is it that distinguishes my books from all the rest? Why did the other historians get mad as hell when they hear my name? Why is it that they cheer when I get thrown into prison as I was for 2 weeks last February last year? No court hearing, no trial, just picked up from my front door by Scotland Yard police officers, very apologetic saying we're very sorry, mister Irving. We've got a high court judges order that we've got to take you straight to Pentonville prison for the next 3 months. And then I get the private papers of the Australian prime minister delivered me a few months later in the course of my worldwide campaign for the truth, and I find that these people down in Australia had actually applied to the judge for me to be sent to prison for 2 years for contempt of court to silence me. That's what it's all about. Then when I managed to get freed from prison back in February last year, my solicitor round eyed with astonishment saying, mister Irving, what on earth is going on? And even more astonished when he hears people on the other side saying we apply for mister Irving's passport to be impounded. That's what it's all about. They're trying to gag me, and set me and chain me to one place because I go around the world speaking my mind and telling audiences like yourselves what I found in the archives. And it was quite a wide world originally. I used to go around the world once every year, the same as I now go around the United States speaking to audiences in South Africa and Australia and New Zealand and Canada, everywhere. Not one of those countries is now available to let me in. I was deported in handcuffs from Canada in November 1992 on the instructions and at the request of the people that I call the traditional enemy of the truth. They had the money. They had the clout. They had the press behind them, and I fought them for 3 weeks in the Canadian courts beginning in Vancouver and ending up in the courts in Ontario until finally, to our astonishment and to the astonishment actually at the press, I was all deported in handcuffs and put onto a plane in handcuffs at Toronto airport and flown back to Britain. And since then, it's been a running battle, but it's been a very interesting battle because I had the means now worldwide to fight back. I've got 3,000 people around the world who contribute to my campaign to enable me to fight these actions. And if you fight actions on this scale, you find extraordinary things. In the United States, you've got the Freedom of Information Act. In Canada, they've got the access to Information Act. If you find a liable action in Australia, you can force the other side suddenly by an action called discovery to show you all their cards. There was gain. They are ordered to show you all the papers they've collected against you, and then you find extraordinary things. Historians, professors who in England have written me oily ingratiating letters saying, learning what wonderful books you write. I would be so grateful if you could give me a clue about where I can find this or can you let me have a copy of that. These same people writing and handwriting to the director of an organization in England, who I won't mention, writing to the director of this organization in England saying, can't you possibly take some to ensure that the next time Irving goes to Germany, he's thrown in prison for a long long time. And then the director of that organization writing an appropriate letter to the German ambassador saying, next time mister Irving goes to the Germany on a speaking tour, can you possibly arrange him to be arrested and put in prison for a while? And all these letters turning up in the files of the Canadian government, which is where I found them. And these people in England still don't realize I've got photographs of these letters. I going to be using them later on in yet another publication. It's a very they're not gonna have an enjoyable time, these people. I started 2 operations ladies and gentlemen. One of them is called operation body line, and the other one is called operation ill wind. As in it is an ill wind that blows nobody any good. These people are going to find that I am the one who is going to benefit from this ill wind over the next 12 months because I am a fighter and I fight back. When I was banned from Australia 2 years ago, as it turned out, the Australian prime minister, Paul Keating had personally issued the instruction that I was not to be allowed in again. We know this because the the judge ordered that the prime minister's file should be opened, and he was the one who took the decision. And it turned out that he had been bribed by these organizations of the traditional enemy of the truth not to let me in. They were the ones who were paying the Australian Labor Party colossal sums of money, and so we had to dance to their tune. He was the one who ordered I shouldn't be allowed in. And when I wasn't allowed in to Australia, all the Australian media, to my astonishment, came down on my side. There wasn't an Australian newspaper which didn't stand up for me and for freedom of speech. They would say all the usual things like why we find mister Irving's views detestable and repugnant. They will always say that kind of thing because if you say one thing about journalists, you can't say they're brave. Journalists are not brave people. I have no not the slightest sympathy for journalists anywhere in the world because they are morally repugnant to me. They have they are what the Germans call, the whole bunch of them. They are all dependent on their editors say so for their jobs, and they write what they they are on autopilot. They know what they've got. They're not censored by anyone, but they know instinctively what they've got to write. And so they all say, while we don't hold anything of mister Irvin's repugnant views and his disgusting opinions, we do stand up for his right to express. We do stand up for freedom of speech. And the Australians would telephone me, and I would do live television programs to Australia from my my house in England. And the Australian journalists say, mister Irvin, why is it then you're keeping on this fight? Why is it that your fight carry on the battle like this? And I would say, I've been underestimated. You've underestimated the English. The English have a reputation, ladies and gentlemen, for marching to the sound of gunfire. We march toward the sound of if they would stop firing their guns, I'd stop marching, but my enemies have not realized this yet. And so the battle goes on, and I mentioned the fact that I would give these interviews from my home in England, and I would broadcast live by satellite to the whole of the Australian continent. This is the benefit, of course. If they were if they didn't ban me from Australia, I would be speaking to the audiences of perhaps 20 or 30 people in the Outback outside Shepparton or Melbourne or somewhere. But as it is, I'm speaking live coast to coast on prime time television several nights a week when these campaigns are running in Australia. I was interviewed in my home, and here's something for you Americans to think about and chew over. I was interviewed in my home in July 2 years ago by France's biggest newspaper, and I gave an opinion to this journalist sitting in my study in London near the American Embassy, and this journalist reported my opinion quite faithfully in Le Monde, the biggest French serious newspaper. And that journalist and that newspaper and I were subsequently fined last year in the French courts having expressed this opinion. I'll tell you later on what the opinion is, but think about that. When you sometimes complain about the restraints you live under in the United States of America, take it from me as an outsider, you have something here that is wonderful, and that's the first amendment. The freedom of speech which is constitutionally guaranteed to you, United States citizens, is something that you're so accustomed to, you take it for granted. Don't take it for granted. Fight to protect it. Fight to stand up to prevent anybody from making any inroads against that first amendment, which guarantees your freedom of speech because otherwise situations will develop like the one I'm about to describe in France where I express an opinion in the safety and security and sanctuary of my own home in London and I find myself receiving an indictment from a Paris court accusing me of having made a certain statement in my own home in England. I've not been in France for 7 or 8 years. And then being fined in absentia by the French court for this opinion I've expressed, which has been published by one of the leading newspapers. But it gets worse because the indictment that has served on me is served on me under a new law passed in France, a law for the amendment of the freedom of speech. Think of those words. The law for the amendment of the freedom of speech in France, and under that law, it becomes a criminal offense for anybody to challenge the French word is conteste, to challenge or ask questions about crimes against humanity as defined by the Nuremberg tribunal of 1945. Now you all know what tribunal that was. That was the victor's tribunal against the Nazis who were put on trial and eventually hanged. They were railroaded at the gallows. I think it was lord Van Sethard who said the only question which is of interest now is going to be the place of the gallows and the length of the rope. That was roughly the mood of justice which prevailed at Nuremberg. You couldn't expect justice in that kind of climate. The Germans didn't expect it. They knew they were gonna get justice, and they didn't get justice. But one thing is by plane, that it should be possible for us now, historians, 50 years after the event, to reexamine those events, to reexamine the indictments as served up at Nuremberg, the crimes that the Germans were accused of and say, was this a crime? Did this happen like that? Did in France, for example, it is a criminal offense, to give you one example. It is a criminal offense to go to France and say, I don't think it was the I don't think it was the Russians. I don't think it was the Nazis who killed the Poles at Katyn in the Katyn Forest in 1940. I think it was really the Russians. I think it was the Russian secret police. We now know it was the Russian secret police who did that because the Russians have admitted it. Mister Gorbachev has admitted it. Mister Yeltsin has admitted. The Russians have actually given the Polish government photo copies of the murder warrants, the death warrants that were signed by the Soviet secret police for the 15,000 Polish officers who were murdered as prisoners of war in the forest of Katyn near Smolensk in 1940. So there's no question about that particular crime. But at Nuremberg, it was the Germans who were accused of having murdered those 15,000 Polish officers. So anybody who goes to France now and challenges that fact is committing a criminal offense, and they're gonna be fined like me, and that newspaper, and that journalist. But it gets worse because it is a criminal offense to mention these crimes, to mention the challenging of these crimes. So the indictment that was served on me said, mister Irving, you are accused of having, in July 1993, given an interview to a journalist of Le Monde in which you stated, I do not believe that the dot dot dot existed. And the words are followed by brackets with the words censored under the Fabius Gesso law of 1990. So they're not even allowed to mention those words in the indictment telling you what you're being charged with. This is helps the reason for that is simple because part of the penalty in France when you have been found guilty of something in France like that is not only you find some horrendous sum, not only you order to pay all the legal costs of all the lawyers who've turned out against you, and it isn't only the lawyers of the government who are against you, You find suddenly in court against you, lawyers representing all sorts of strange organizations of communist veterans and and and Jewish victims and this kind. They've all got their lawyers in court representing these associations and organizations. They've all got an interest in seeing mister Irving punished, and the judge will say, mister Irving, you will pay a fine and you will pay compensation to these. You'll pay those lawyers. You'll pay compensation to that organization, that organization. Every organization represented in court gets a nice handout, and the final penalty is you're also ordered to publicize in a display advertisement in 5 of France's biggest newspapers the full details of the offense and the penalty. And that, of course, is the most savage, swingeing financial penalty because you know what display advertising costs. And they don't want in that advertisement that you're going to put in the newspapers announcing your penalty, they don't want you to repeat, of course, what you've been charged with. That's why that's been cut out of the indictment. It's all a bit Orwellian. If you've ever read Animal Farm or 1984, you understand what I'm talking about. The things that George Orwell wrote about it about in the 19 forties, the 19 fifties as being an absurd situation which might one day happen have already happened in many countries in Europe and around the world because vested interest is trying to protect legends. So what are these legends? I've got no vested interest one way or the other. If I say, as I do, I don't believe in the legend of the Holocaust as it is at present propagated, it's not because I've got a vested interest. I'm not making money out of saying that. No one's gonna come up to me afterwards and say, you done you done well, Irving. Here's the money I promised you for saying. No one's going to say that. I'm saying it because it's the conclusion that I've come to. And the fact that I say that in fact does not earn me money. It costs me money. My my agent, when I published his book originally in 1977, Max Becker, a dear old American literary agent, one of the best, when I delivered the manuscript to me, he said, David, we got a problem with your Hitler book. Where are the 15 pages on the holocaust? I said, Max, there aren't 15 pages on the holocaust. He said, well, yeah, but you gotta write them. You gotta put them in. You can't write a biography of Adolf Hitler without putting at least 15 pages on the holocaust. And I say, Max, my problem is I've written this book based on the archives. I knew all Adolf Hitler's private people. I got to know all his private secretaries. All the girls who had worked as typist to Adolf Hitler, I spent 10 years winning their trust in getting them to look under their beds and find their old cardboard boxes full of diarism and private letters and papers that they're written. I spent 10 years finding out what really happened based on the archives, and in all those archives around the world, there aren't those 15 pages you're talking about, Max. There's not one single sheet of paper linking Adolf Hitler with what you call the Holocaust, so I'm not gonna put it in. And he says, Jesus, David, if that's your let me tell you what's gonna happen. You're gonna lose the book of the month club. You're gonna lose the Reader's Digest deal. You're gonna lose the Sunday Times contract in England. You're gonna lose any chance of doing a paperback or softback publication in the United States because all the 7 biggest publishing houses, the paperback publishing houses in the United States who publish paperbacks, the 7 biggest are all Jewish. And they're not gonna pop there. You can forget about doing a contract. You're talking about losing $1,000,000. And in a rather cavalier fashion, I said, Max, what you haven't had, you don't miss. But he got 10%, of course, about what I hadn't had. And and and he wasn't happy about that at all. And he said, David, I said, I cannot. There is no evidence. He said, for God's sake, David, if you cannot find the evidence, do what the others do, invent the evidence. I remember him very clearly saying that. That's one thing I remember very clearly. And the other thing I remember very clearly was the day when it came to the Viking press to publish this book. And a few weeks beforehand, we had a meeting with all their sales staff. All the Viking presses leading sales representatives came from all over the country right across the union. They came to New York, and I had to address them. This this happens in publishing hours. They have 5 or 6 of their leading authors with the the new books of that year that are gonna be published. You get up on the stage, and you talk to the the sales representatives. They sit in front of you, and you tell them what's new about this book. And as I went on the stage, the sales manager of the Viking press came up to me, and he took me out of the army and said, Dave, we've got a bit of a problem. We've got a bit of a problem with your book Hitler's War. He says, I don't know how to put this to you, but this problem will be solved instantly if you can give me the right answer to the following question. Are you Jewish? It's the kind of question that means nothing to you at the time. But over the years that followed, that was 1975, 20 years have passed since then, that little question has kept on coming back into my mind. I had to say I'm not Jewish. His face fell. He knew they had a problem, and I felt sorry for him, but there was nothing I could do about it. If I if I was called Irving David, I suppose he might have had a chance. But being called David Irving, everything was just the wrong way around for him. So that book has been in trouble ever since. A few years ago, I was interviewed by somebody in Time Magazine, and he said, you know, before I had this lunch date with you today, Irving, I went and had a look in our clippings library to get all the old clippings about you. And I tell you another thing I've noticed. Until you published your book Hitler's War in 1975, you couldn't put a foot wrong. You've got whole page reviews in Newsweek and Time Magazine. You've got wonderful press coverage of everything you did, and then suddenly everything turned sour. And I said, tell me about it. I've I've noticed that fact myself. But it's interesting because when you're standing in the eye of the storm and you see it all that you that you've been visiting quite harmlessly for 30 years. You find bookshops windows being smashed in. You must be doing something right. You must be doing something right. Otherwise, you as an individual citizen, why else would all these people be getting so mad as hell at you? And the answer is that for 30 years I worked in the archives and people believe what I say. My voice carries a certain certain authority. I give evidence in court hearings in Canada, for example, against Ernst Zundel. I was called for the defense, and the judge afterwards said in private to the other lawyers, you'd never seen a witness who was as compelling as this English historian because I had the answers. They would show documents on the screen which I'd never seen in my life before, and the prosecution counsel would believe straight away we have the rather like the OJ Simpson case. Mister Irving, how do you explain that document? Here is the chief of the SS talking about gas chambers in a document, a letter written to him, and I would say straight away, but look again at that letter. It has no security classification on it. If they were talking about the final solution, which was the most, as you yourself say, the most secret of all the Nazi operations, this document would have a security classification on it. It would be stamped as secret or top secret. In German, commander, and if it hasn't got the rubber stamp, it would at least have those initials after the registration number of the letter, g r s or g k d o s. I'm a commander's eye. And the fact that it hasn't got that security classification means that this document is of what I would call janitorial level. Literally. A perfectly innocent explanation as to why these sinister words like gas chamber come into a German document is because, in fact, it turned out to be part of the coking process for generating the necessary high temperature gases that were used in the crematoria. So what am I saying? Well, the first thing I say is I came in through the back door, so to speak, when I was writing the Adolf Hitler book, and it occurred to me that nowhere in any of the archives did I find one single document linking Hitler with what is now called the Holocaust. Notice the word that I say is now called the Holocaust. If you look in in the newspapers before about 1970, you won't find that word. It's a modern word. It's a modern word. It's been generated by the Holocaust lobby because they know how to sell something. They're selling a package. It's got a capital h like Tylenol, capital t, they're selling a word and a concept. And that word holocaust is the first word I'm going to impress on you as being something you should be very suspicious of. You're invited not to open the package, please. Like a package of Tylenol. Please don't touch the package. You have to buy the whole package without inspecting it. And anybody who does want to open that package and inspect it is then called something else. This is the second word, holocaust denier. Isn't that absurd? How can anyone deny the holocaust? We've seen the pictures. We've heard the eyewitnesses. Holocaust denier. There's nothing more absurd, nothing more worthy of repugnance than the holocaust denier. Capital h, capital d. Not somebody who questions the holocaust or somebody who is a skeptic as I am. Bits of the story are undoubtedly true. Let me say this right from the start. There's no doubt at all, and particularly the young members of the audience here should realize this. There's no doubt at all that the Nazis in their 12 year rule inflicted nameless horrors on large segments of the population, including the Jews and other people whom they disliked. No doubt about that at all. What I do question, the methods. Was it done on a methodical scale? Was it done as a measure of the German state? If the Nazis massacred the Jews on any enormous scale, was it done on the orders of Adolf Hitler himself? In other words, the man who the German people had elected as their head of state, Or was it something that just happened? Was it premeditated, to use OJ Simpson terminology? Or was it second degree murder? These are the phrases we all know now if you all have been sitting in front of our televisions. Was it premeditated or was it second degree murder? Was it all planned from the moment Hitler came to power? Or did it just happen because war broke out and because the Germans saw that we allies, the British and the Americans, were burning alive 100 of 1000 of their people every night, and the Germans wanted to hit back at someone, and it's human nature to hit back at somebody who's in your power. Do you want to see what it looks like when a 100,000 people are being burned alive? Here's a picture of it. Incidentally, there, that picture there. Not a 100,000. Actually, it's it's 40,000 people in the little German town of Fortsheim. None of you have heard of that. You've heard of Dresden and Hiroshima, but Fortsheim, that was 10 days after Dresden being burned alive, 40,000 people in 20 minutes. And that moment that photograph is taken by one of our airmen from the air. Burned alive, barbecued because they were not the wrong color, not because they were the wrong race, but because they were Germans. They were living on the wrong side of a frontier. And if I can divert here for a moment, I would say that if a crime was committed during World War 2 by any side, and I'm very open minded about crimes being committed by all sides, I don't think the crime was genocide. This is the other word to watch for. Remember, we got 3 words now, holocaust, holocaust, denial, and genocide. The crime wasn't genocide. It's a a word I make up, innocenticide. The killing of innocent people in war. That is a crime. If the Jews were killed in Auschwitz or Treblinka or anywhere else, and we'll look at that particular statement in a minute, it wasn't a crime because they were Jews. It was a crime because they were innocent Jews who were being killed. It was their innocence that made them a crime made it a crime and not their Jewishness that made it a crime. But the Jewish community today don't want that. That's why they've invented the 3rd word, genocide, the killing of a race, because that's what they make money out of. If you enlarge the concept into the crime being the killing of any innocent people, then all sorts of people can qualify, please. The citizens of the citizens of Nagasaki or Hiroshima, the American airmen who suffered when they were shot down and held in captivity, the Australians who were held in Japanese prison camps, all sorts of people suffered nameless horrors during World War 2, innocent people. The people in this photograph, they suffered, but they haven't been able to claim a bent little for being burned alive. But this is it, you see. The word genocide is a very useful word because it limits the concept of who is entitled to the money, please. Only people have been killed because of their race. But it wasn't their race that made it into a crime, it was their innocence that made it into a crime. So those are the 3 words that are used in the propaganda that surrounds the holocaust campaign today, and it's big money. Big money is involved in this. The American taxpayer, I'm quite sure you are doing this willingly, are donating between $3,000,000,000 and $4,000,000,000 a year to state of Israel, and you do it willingly because you are guilty. And your guilt is brought home to you again and again as Christian human beings by television programs, which bring it home to you in a subliminal way that you are guilty of the holocaust in some way because you are the same religion at the same race as the Germans who carried out this holocaust crime. And so you pay the money and you don't complain. And if anyone was to stand up and complain about the 3 or $4,000,000,000 going that way, he would be instantly accused of being anti Semitic. And the Germans are paying $1,000,000,000 just under $1,000,000,000 in reparations and restitution for the same reason. $5,000,000,000 a year going that way upon which that state depends. And you begin to understand why they don't like me when I come along and say, I have got no axe to grind, which is true. I'm not Jewish. I'm not anti Jewish. I'm not anti Semitic despite everything they've done to me, but I am a truthful historian, and I'm going to ask certain questions. First question is, if they killed 4,000,000 people in Auschwitz concentration camp, this was the original figure. Since we revisionists, as we're called, began campaigning about this 4 or 5 years ago, suddenly the 4,000,000 figure has been abandoned. It's now only 1,000,000. It's extraordinary. They wiped off 3,000,000 off that figure in Auschwitz. Yet the overall figure of 6,000,000 hasn't changed. I don't understand the mathematics. I'm sure somewhere buried deep in the Talmud is a strange kind of mathematical equation which explains how you can take off 3,000,000 and still end up with 6,000,000, the original figure they started off with. It's like one of those quiz show questions. But believe me, ladies and gentlemen, it's a lot less than a1000000 in Auschwitz. But I'm not going to say it was only a 1,000 Jews who were killed in Auschwitz because if even 1 Jew is murdered, that's a crime. But what I am going to say is what did happen and what didn't happen. Speaker 1: And Speaker 2: I'm only going to deal with Auschwitz because that basically is the capital ship of the whole of the Holocaust campaign. If Auschwitz sinks, and it is, believe me, a very legal vessel indeed now, if Auschwitz sinks without trace, then the whole of the Holocaust campaign is in doubt and open to skepticism, to healthy skepticism, not to vicious malignant skepticism which antisemites might like, but to the kind of healthy skepticism which any ordinary citizen is invited to show to any subject, whether it's the assassination of JFK or the OJ Simpson case or any other event which bulks large on our historical horizon. If they murdered a 1000000 people in Auschwitz using poison gas, why is there no trace of that gas in the buildings of Auschwitz today? This is the first question, and it's a very interesting question because it never occurs to me. It never occurred to me. I have to admit it that you should carry out the same kind of tests on a building that you carry out in documents as a historian. You remember when the Adolph Hitler Diaries first surfaced in 1983? A man in Germany claimed to have found Adolph Hitler's private diaries, and he earned $9,000,000 from a foolish German magazine to whom he supplied these diaries at the rate of 1 a week because that's how long it took him to write them. Yes, ma'am. And I was the person who exposed those diaries as being fake at that magazine's press conference in April 1983. But it's the obvious things that you don't spot. I said carry out the tests on the paper, test the ink. When you write with ink, fountain pen ink, the ink begins to oxidize the moment it hits the air, and a good laboratory can tell you, a good forensic police laboratory can tell you how old a signature is. Above all, they can tell you if the ink is ballpoint ink or or or regular ink, fountain pen ink. And I said test the ink, test the paper, test the glue, test the string. You can do all these. Well, I mean, you've been watching the television the last few weeks anyway, so you know what the bariters can do when they want to age something and test the age of something. But what didn't occur to me was the fact that Adolf Hitler's diaries were stacked up on front of us in that press conference. 72 of them written by this man as it turned out. Not by Adolf Hitler, but by this forger. And these 72 diaries were all written in identical leather notebooks, rather cheap leather notebooks. That meant that that man, Adolf Hitler, back in about 1922, had gone into his local Barnes and Noble and said, I want 72 of those diaries, please. I'm going to write a diary. And, of course, it isn't like that. And it never occurred to me, never occurred to anyone that diaries extending over the last 20 or 30 years are higgledy piggledy. Come in all sorts and sorts of shapes and colors and sizes because that's the way you buy them year by year. It's the obvious things you overlook, and none of us none of us historians thought of demanding that there should be tests carried out on the fabric of the gas chambers at Auschwitz. The buildings survived partly. They're in ruins, some of them, others are more or less intact. And eventually, in 1988, as part of this Canadian trial that I mentioned, the case against Ernst Lyndall, the defense lawyers decided to send an expert in gas chambers over to Auschwitz. An expert in gas chambers. You're only going to find that in the United States, of course, because only the United States gasses people are present. So this expert in gas chambers, a man called Fred Leuchter, was sent over to Auschwitz to test the gas chambers of the Nazi concentration camp. Would these gas chambers work? Is there any trace that they have in the news as gas chambers? Is there any residue of cyanide gas in the walls? All the obvious questions, and he came back, and he wrote an affidavit for the court, which we eventually published as the Leuchter Report. Photographs of the buildings, photographs of the brickwork, photographs the the actual tests, the chemical tests carried out, the forensic test carried out in the 48 samples that he brought back to the United States, bits of brickwork that he took out of the walls and submitted to the the slightest significant trace of cyanide compound. In the 48 sample, there were colossal traces of cyanide, a 100 and 41 milligrams of hydrogen brickwork. And what is the explanation of that result? Well, the answer is in that sample he had taken out of a little gas chamber that was used for disinfesting clothing, killing the lice and the vermin in the prisoner's clothing. The clothing was stuffed into this little gas chamber, which looked like a gas chamber. They got a steel door with a peephole and ventilation systems and racks rather like a dry cleaners for wheeling clothing in and out. And he took that sample out of that brickwork, and that's where the colossal cyanide was found. It's significant because all our opponents have said, you don't expect to find cyanide in the brickwork after 50 years. How absurd. How ludicrous. After 50 years of wind and rain, you're not going to find cyanide compounds, residue of a gas in the brickwork. And the answer is you do. And the proof of that answer is, first of all, they did find the residue in that little gas chamber. In fact, the walls of that little gas chamber were so soaked in cyanide compounds that they had turned blue. Got photographs of it here. What those blue walls look like, you can see here. Color photographs of the little gas chamber in Auschwitz showing the blue stain on the walls where the cyanide has seeped through the brickwork, forming a compound called ferric ferric cyanide, which is otherwise known by the trade name of Prussian blue. It becomes so permanent it's actually used as a dye stuff. Prussian blue or Berliner Blau. And when this was denied, a brave German scientist called Gerhard Rudolph and this is a sad story but unhappy ending. Young Gerhard Rudolph, a young 28 year old German chemist, a research chemist working at the Max Planck Institute in Germany. The Max Planck Institute is one of the most prestigious bodies with the kind of reputation of the National Institutes of Health here in Bethesda, Maryland. He decided to write his dissertation on that one subject, the permanence of cyanide compounds in brickwork. Now having written his dissertation, he then allowed it to be circulated in printed form to 2,000 German chemists professors of chemistry at universities who confirmed that what he'd written was true. Too late, the traditional enemy spotted what he did, and they had him dismissed from his position at the Max Planck Institute. The letters have now been published where they put pressure on the Max Planck Institute then to be dismissed. And 1 month ago, young Gerhard Rudolph was sentenced by the German government to 14 months in prison for allowing his scientific report, his dissertation to be published. Under the German laws for the suppression of free speech, he had infringed against those laws, and he's now been sent to prison for 14 months for allowing his chemical results to be circulated to the professors of chemistry and physics in Germany. It's a horrifying thought. It's all as though the wheel is coming full circle. The Germans don't realize themselves, unfortunately, those who live in Germany, because they've lived under oppressive regimes for so long, since the beginning of this century, they didn't realize no reason. But think about it in the United States. If a research chemist in the United States had published a report and then found himself being prosecuted because his scientific report came up with politically unacceptable conclusions. That's what's happening in Germany every day. I have been fined by the German government $22,000 for saying one sentence in a meeting like this in Munich. The sentence that I said was the gas chamber in Auschwitz, which they showed to the tourists, was built by the Polish government after the war. I said that at a meeting on April 21, 1991, and I was fined $22,000 for making that one remark as a historian to a conference like this. Imagine that happening in the United States, a $22,000 fine to give an expert opinion where one is open to being shot down, where anybody can stand up in discussion time and say, Irving, you are talking through your hat. The facts are obviously as follows. But, no. They protect the legend with $22,000 fines in my case, and with being sent to prison for 14 months in the case of doctor Guillermo Arudolf. This tells us something about the quality of the legend that they're trying to protect, I think. And what about that statement that I made? The gas chamber they show the tourists in Auschwitz is a fake built by the Poles after the war. I said that in 1991. In the court hearings, we applied I applied to call the director of the Auschwitz State Museum as a witness knowing that he would confirm what I said. The court would not allow us to call any witnesses or to produce any documents in our defense. They said under German law, it is an established fact that that was a gas chamber, and you are not allowed to question it. You have committed an offense. Fine, $22,000, 30,000 Deutsche Marks. The amusing thing is that the biggest French magazine, Lex Press, which is very similar to Newsweek or Time, The biggest French news magazine, Lex Press, on January 26th this year published a 12 page investigation of Auschwitz on the anniversary of the camp's liberation, and they came to exactly the same conclusion. This prestigious French author, he wrote in French that he had discussed with the director of the Auschwitz Museum and with the deputy director of the Auschwitz Museum, a woman, the artifacts that they showed to the public, and he had come to the conclusion that 60% of what is now on display in Auschwitz is fake, and that in particular, the gas chamber that they showed to the tourists was never used as a gas chamber, and that the Auschwitz Museum authorities have confirmed to him that it was built in 1948, 3 years after the war by the Polish communists as a display exhibit, and this is totally fraudulent, to use his own words, tout I e f u. Everything in it is false. So I've written to the German government, and 20,000 of my friends around the world have written the same letter to the German government, to ambassadors, consuls general, journalists in Pretoria and Melbourne and Canberra and everywhere around the world. 20,000 letters saying if L'Express has written that in January this year, is it true or is it false? If it is true that that gas chamber is a fake built by the Poles after the war, is it now permitted to say so in Germany or is it still a criminal offense? If it is permitted to say so, then why was David Irving fined $22,000? If it's still a criminal offense, then why haven't you prosecuted the French magazine which was on sale in Germany? And the replies that have come from the German government before the German government in Bonn issued a central director to all its ambassadors around the world not to reply to this letter, again, an interesting admission of defeat. The replies are truly illuminating and, in fact, hilarious. What other evidence do we have that the holocaust legend is leaking? Well, there are no documents. Not one single page of German wartime documents talks about gas chambers or killing people with gas. And there are people who say, but Irving, you don't expect to find any documents. The Nazis will have destroyed everything in the last weeks of the war. Well, somebody who says that is unfamiliar with the kind of chaos that exists even in even now in the German archives. If you go to the National Archives in Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington and see the captured German records there, they're still in disarray. The Germans in the final weeks of chaos would not have had time to meticulously go through every single file and folder and document, removing every document in because even if and even if every carbon copy at Hitler's headquarters had been preserved and saved and rescued from Hitler's headquarters in Poland before the Russians arrived there, The person at the receiving end of those orders would have received it too through his teleprinter, and he would have made copies. And even if every copy of that had been destroyed, there's always some felt fable, some corporal who writes a private diary or who writes a letter out to mommy in which he describes what they did that day. And those documents have turned up now in profusion, but there's nowhere in the private diaries or private letters of the Germans during those years not a single reference explicitly to killing people in gas chambers. There's lots of references to other things being done to the Jews, but the gas chambers just don't survive in the archives. This I find significant because I've worked in the archives, and I know what to expect and what not to expect. And I would expect to have found that by now, 50 years after. And about 20 years ago, I with a $1,000 bundle of, of notes and come up with 1 single wartime document. I did it to Deborah Lipstadt in Atlanta a few weeks ago, who's my arch enemy here in the United States. I stood up at the back of her audience where she had delivered Speaker 1: a speech in which she had made mid speed of Speaker 2: me, not when I was sitting in the back row. And I said, you've quoted this, and you've said you've obtained blueprints and documents of gas chambers on the Moscow archives. Here's a $1,000, missus Lipstadt, if you can show the audience now that blueprint you just talked about because you can't. You know, you've lied. They've lied. And she she was she she eventually called the police to have me thrown out of of the meeting. That's the only way they operate. People will say not the proof that does the the the documents didn't exist. The Germans managed to destroy every single document that they couldn't have destroyed the documents that we British had. Now you wouldn't know this, but 1942 and 1943, the middle years of the war, we British had developed a computer which was reading the German codes. And in those 2 years, 1942 and 1943, we had developed that computer to break the codes of Himmler and the SS, And in particular, we were reading every day the messages of the concentration camp commandants of the 7 biggest concentration camps, including Dachau and Buchenwald and Auschwitz. And what do these signals say that Auschwitz is sending back to Berlin every day that we were reading without the Germans knowing it? Remember, they're sending this in their top secret code, so they're not concealing anything. They're sending it in their own secret code, and they have no reason to believe that we British have a computer, which didn't exist in those days, but we built the first ever computer in the world. It was as big as a house, and we were breaking the German codes with it. The SS codes, the command line of Auschwitz, a man called Rudolf Hoss, was reporting back to Berlin every day what he was doing in his camp, and he was giving statistics, 4 figures every day. The numbers of prisoners who had arrived during the previous 24 hours ending at midnight, the number of prisoners or slave laborers, if you will, who had left the camp during the previous 24 hours, the numbers of prisoners who had who were on hand at midnight, the total in in the camp at Auschwitz, And the 4th figure was losses, Ab Genga, which was correctly interpreted by British intelligence as meaning the number of prisoners who had died during the previous 24 hours in Auschwitz. A minuscule figure which was again broken down into 3 categories. The number of prisoners who had died from epidemics and illness, the numbers of prisoners who had been die who had died from from, shooting, and the number of prisoners who had died from hanging. The British official historian, professor Sir Frank Hinsley, the master of Saint John's College in Cambridge University in in British Secret Service who revealed these facts in an appendix to volume 2. You can get it in your local library probably at your university of the history of the British Secret Service. He says on analyzing these Auschwitz daily telegrams that there's no doubt that most of the deaths in Auschwitz occurred through natural causes. We could be called them natural causes in a slave labor camp. Typhus in particular, starvation, hunger, overwork, old age. By far, the smallest number of deaths was caused by executions, he writes. Now that is an academic historian who I trust. He has no axe to grind one way or the other. He's just reporting what he finds in his unusual source of information. The secret reports of the camp commandant himself, written in a secret code which he thought nobody else was reading but himself and the chief of the SS. Why should he conceal if he was killing 100 of 1000 of Jews every day as is now said? How many Jews is he supposed to have killed every day? Well, the figures you've read them, 50 or 60,000 a day he was killing, but we run up against another problem there, ladies and gentlemen, because if you're killing 50 or 60,000 people a day, be they Jews or anybody else, and if you're cremating 50 or 60,000 people a day, you need the capacity to cremate that number of people. And that's where the statistics break down because we know exactly how many crematoria they had at Auschwitz. They had a large number. They had 5 or 6 buildings there, which went all operating together, but still quite a large number. And we know that if these crematori were working throughout the period the camp was in operation, they could, working flat out, have cremated about 60 or 70,000 bodies. It's an ugly subject, but we're getting now to final totals. And we've got another figure which kicks in here because if you're cremating 60,000 people a day, you're going to need a huge quantity of coke. We know, and any crematorium expert or manager here in in in downtown Cincinnati will confirm this. If you got a coke operated crematorium, it takes 30 or 40 50 kilograms of coke for each. So you're looking at a huge quantity of coke being required every day for these figures you read about in newspapers now, about 2,000 tons of coke a day. But we have aerial photographs of Auschwitz who were taken during the war, taken by American and British and South African planes. Photographs that are so detailed. I have them. I have them with me. Photographs that are so detailed, you can see the people walking around in the streets of the camp. There's no signs of huge quantities of coke, no mountains of coke, there are no huge mass graves either, no pits, no lines of people waiting outside the gas chambers. All these legends begin to dissolve when you look at these photographs under a magnifying glass. We can be very precise about the coke, in fact, because in the Russian archives, which should now become available, why it were too in Moscow, the secret archives in Soviet Union, they found the entire operating documents of the Auschwitz concentration plant, including the quantities of coke that were supplied for the crematoria throughout the entire period. It's a figure worth making a mental note of. 2,188 tons of Coke was supplied to Auschwitz from start to finish, which is enough to cremate 70 or 80,000 bodies again. So you're coming roughly to a figure of about a 100000 bodies, which is again confirmed, oddly enough, by the Russians who released to the western powers 4 years ago the death books of Auschwitz, which contain all the death certificates of everyone who died in Auschwitz. 46 bound volumes of death certificates with a total of 66,000 names. So again, you've got an order of magnitude of how many people died. And if most of those people died of natural causes and a fraction died of of being executed or murder or brutality, This is still a crime. I'm not denying that, but we then come to a point which I mentioned earlier. The innocent aside fact that comes in Because if of those 100,000 people who died in Auschwitz, even a quarter were murdered, 25,000. Remember the picture I showed you here? On the one hand, 25,000 people being murdered in Auschwitz over the entire war years, and on the other hand, 40,000 people being burned alive in 20 minutes. The whole world talks about the one crime, endless television movies are made about it. You're all made to feel guilty about it. The other crime is swept under the carpet as though it never happened. And when a British historian comes along and repeatedly talks about it, he's the one who finds himself being put in handcuffs and deported and hounded around the world and finding doors slammed in his face from Pretoria to Vancouver. It gives food for thought. I've only mentioned in this brief talk a very few of the facts which point in the direction that I'm talking telling the truth. I know of no one document which operates in the other direction. I've got a lot of documents which show the Germans were very brutal. I've got a lot of documents which show the Germans massacring people on the eastern front. I'm not going to gain gainsay that for one moment. It's a question of orders of magnitude of of relativity between the crimes on the one hand and the crimes on the other. And this is one word which is engraved on my shield as a historian, it's not just the word truth or justice, but even handedness. I think that the time has come 50 years after the war to see an even handedness. I boil with rage at the hypocrisy of other writers and other historians. I have to boil with rage at the hypocrisy of your own government sometimes. I boiled with rage at the time of the Oklahoma bombing last year, earlier this year. And I think to myself, how many Oklahomans did your government fire at Baghdad during the Gulf War? How many Oklahomans have your citizens in the northern, states financed in Northern Ireland, for example, paid for the benefit of mister Jerry Allen who now comes in and out of the White House. This is the kind of hypocrisy which which irritates me. I I like to be able to stand back and say, if this is a crime, then that was a crime, and no one is going to tell me, David Irving, to shut up even if they bankrupt me. It began with my agent telling me all those years ago, if Speaker 1: you don't put those 15 pages in that book, you're going Speaker 2: to lose $1,000,000 in royalties over the next 10 years. And I said, forget the $1,000,000 in royalties. I want to write a book that's going to stand up by itself and go down in history as the one that people put. And my family don't understand me. I know this, and a lot of people don't understand me. My publishers don't understand me, but I can sleep easy at night. I have no fear of ever being exposed as a fraud. I have no fear that someone is going to come along and say, we've got a document that proves you wrong. And, oh, well, suppose they do find a document that proves me wrong. I'm not going to drop it on the floor and sweep it under the carpet and pretend it doesn't exist. I'm not gonna call for that man to be locked up. I'm going to shorten my shoulders and say, well, for 30 years, I've given you a run for your money. I thought I was right. You've proved me wrong. Well done. But they're not going to succeed. I've got an instinct which tells me that the truth is on my side in this particular fight. It's an interesting battle, ladies and gentlemen, but I have so many friends around the world that I'm convinced that I'm going to win it. Thank you very much. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Just in in conclusion, I mentioned one little example of my open mindedness. The man who took the color photographs which were in the Hitler biography as well photographer called Walter Fence. He's still alive. Eventually, when I got to know him very well, he showed me his collection of 3,000 color transparencies that he took when he was on Adolf Hitler's staff as a film cameraman. That has a picture of him earlier in the book with his film camera taken taking a picture. Beautiful photographs. And I Speaker 1: used to go and visit Speaker 2: him at Lake Constance, which is near Switzerland, as you know. We would talk far into the night, and eventually, he would describe to me how he saw a mass execution going on. Himmler, the chief of the SS, came up to him and said, friends, it's boring here in Hitler's headquarters, isn't it? You want to go on an outing with me? Friends said, sure. Himmler says, well, we're off to the eastern front for 3 days. For 3 days, they toured the Russian front visiting SS units and police units. And friends has told me the same story over the last 15 years 2 or 3 times, and he adds more and more details each time he tells me. You know, the way the memory remembers things that he didn't really want to say before. And he said one evening as we're drinking, Himmler says to me, hey, friends. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to go and witness a mass execution. Do you wanna come along? Now I've got to admit this is where the German mentality and the English mentality obviously diverge. If somebody said to me, mister Irving, tomorrow I'm going to go and witness a mass execution. Do you want to come along? I would find something else to do that morning. Believe me. I'd look at my watch. I'd say, well, my timetable was rather crowded. Thanks for the invitation, but can I give a rain check on him? Prince said, clicked his hand and said, hi, Fuhrer. I'd be delighted to come along. And he finds himself at 7 or 8 next morning standing on the edge of a field the way you've imagined it. A large windswept desolate field somewhere outside Minsk. It was August 1941. We've located it now. We know exactly what day it was. Watching as truckloads of civilians have driven up to pits on the far side of the field, being unloaded from these trucks, forced to line up, forced to take off all their valuable clothes and their valuables and put them in boxes and then stand up in a line against the edge of a pit and be machine gunned into this pit. And he watches it for an hour. And he describes various other he's He's telling me the story at 2 o'clock in the morning over a bottle of rather fine wine and his wife who's listening, round eyed. This is back in about 1980, 1975. She says, Walter, you never told me this. And she's rather embarrassed. He he he's obviously do do you ever say, say, he's let his mouth he's running off his mouth of it. His wife says, Walter, were there women was there were there women and children there being killed as well? He says, I can't remember. You know, he can remember. You see, I got these people to talk to me. Hitler's private secretary, a dear old lady who died 10 years ago, she was his secretary for 12 years from 1933 until 1 week before he committed suicide. She was with him in the bunker in Berlin, Christa Schroder. She became so close to me as I worked on her that she actually gave me the only self portrait that Hitler sketched of himself. I I have it in the car outside, a very valuable piece of paper. She said, you know, I think you are wrong about Hitler and the Jews. This is again at like 3 in the morning, a conversation of tea or wine. I think you are wrong about, about the chief, she called him, the chief and the Jews, or Ah, she called him Ah as well. Ah could be very cruel. And knowing the way with Krista Schroeder to get her to talk was to play her like a fish, not tug, but just reel out a bit of line. I said, well, what do you mean? She said, I was with him on the night of the long knives. Now the night of the long knives in history was in June 1934, a year after Hitler came to power when he decided to liquidate all his senior rivals in the Nazi party, the brown shirts, hence, and a dozen others. In fact, it was 84 people who were finally murdered that night. She said, I was in Berlin, and I got a telephone call from Ah. He wanted me to fly his trade over to join him in Bard Goldersberg. He needed me. He needed he needed the secretary not to dictate though, but he needed them to talk to. He needed human company. And they flew down that night from the Rhine city of Bad Godesberg down to Munich, and they climbed into those big Mercedes open limousines and drove out to a town on the outskirts of Munich. She described all this. She said she was with him when he went into the hotel. He arrested all his rivals, had them taken away by the SS, and they were shot later that day in the prisoners, Tadelheim, just lined up against the wall and shot. It was the first bloody massacre of the Nazi regime. And she said later on that afternoon, they flew back to Berlin, and Hitler was obviously exhausted by the day's events. When they got back to Berlin, the German capital, Hitler vanished into his chancellery, into his building like the White House. He vanished into his chancellery, and she didn't see him for an hour. She said, mister Ernie, I went down into the cafeteria by myself, and I ordered dinner. The chief and I, we were both vegetarians, and I knew he had eventually come down. And after about an hour, he showed up and he stood in the door, buttoning up his jacket, and he said, so for lanschwode, now I have had a bath, and I feel as clean as a newborn babe again. She told me that, I suppose, 15 years ago, 40 years probably had passed since she she heard him say those words. She'd never spoken unto anybody else, but those words had drifted around in her memory for 40 years, and she had longed to tell somebody this telling sentence, what the chief had said to her after killing his closest friends and rivals. I've had a bath, and I'm as clean as a newborn babe again. A sentence that really says it all about him and about quite a lot of people. You get the impression that OJ Simpson had a bath and felt as clean as a newborn, but not that I want to prejudge out his guilt, but there we are. We'll have Speaker 1: a 15 minute break, ladies Speaker 2: and gentlemen, and then those of you who have stammer, we'll have a discussion afterwards. There's coffee at the back. Thank you. Is there not also a parallel not only between the crimes that the allies committed as such and the crimes that the Nazis committed. I didn't mention the Soviet Union, of course. Well, the Soviet Union was one of the allies, but I suppose these statistics are so enormous that people don't seem to be able to grasp them. The number of people who died under Stalin's rule rule of terror. I remember when I was very, very small, at that age when you start standing up on your hind legs and groping along the bookshelves of your father's books, finding a book called the Red Terror, Speaker 1: and Speaker 2: a book next to it in the in the bookshelves called the Chekhkah. These were 2 books about the the Russian secret police and how they dealt with their opponents in the years after World War 1 and after the October Revolution. And I I devoured them, those those books, and they left indelible pictures impregnated on my mind of massacre and of murder and of atrocity, Horrifying pictures. I mean, I've got some word images still engraved on my mind just from reading those 2 books. And then when I married a Spanish woman in 1959, we then found out a great deal about how the communists had behaved in the Spanish Civil War, including coming to take away her father and and execute him in the courtyard, but they got the wrong one by mistake, and they took, his brother away and executed him instead. And, so I was brought up in the right school. I knew everything that the communists had done. And one book I wrote in about 1975 was, as Rick mentioned, the the history of the Hungarian uprising of 1956 against the communist occupation of Hungary, for which I had access to a certain number of CIA files, which were very interesting because the CIA carried out in-depth psychological interrogations of a large number of the Hungarian refugees who came to this country after 1956. And there was no doubt in my mind, a very interesting discovery indeed, which I wasn't aware of until I began investigating that. I didn't realize this. The reason I began writing a book about the Hungarian uprising was entirely irrelevant. I decided to write a book about something other than Hitler and the Third Reich just to show that I wasn't in a rut. But the odd thing was that when I began writing that book, I discovered from the CIA files that the Hungarian people, when they started that uprising, it began as an anti Jewish pogrom. It was essentially an anti Jewish revolution and not an anti communist revolution to begin with for the first few days. The Hungarian people regarded that their government in the 19 fifties as being a Jewish government, and they regarded the secret police, the graded, the AVH, as being a Jewish secret police. And, essentially, it was because when the Red Army entered Hungary in 1945, they brought back into Hungary all the Jews who had taken refuge in the Soviet Union, and they were the ones who got the plum jobs, and they were the ones who got the trustworthy jobs as secret police chiefs and as torturers. And that's why the Jews were so hated in Hungary by 1956 because they were regarded as the people who had inflicted this nameless misery on the Hungarian people. And so the uprising began as an anti Jewish uprising. Every one of the Hungarian leaders at that time in 1956, Rakosi and Farkas and Gero and the rest Hungarian leaders, they were all Jews. And I never realized that when I set out to write it. It's an extraordinary fact the way these things are kept away from the public consciousness. And, of course, inevitably when the book came out, I was accused of anti Semitism for having written it. What am I supposed to do when you discover something as a historian? Are you supposed to try and pretend it isn't that? Well, if you do pretend it isn't that, you are doing the Jewish people more harm than good, I think. I delivered a lecture Speaker 1: in Shreveport, Speaker 2: in Louisiana about 6 months ago, and on this occasion, the audience was about as large as this, but half the audience had been taken over by the local Jewish community, and they decided to wreck my meeting by barracking and by interrupting and by being thoroughly obnoxious. And after an hour of this, with the rest of the audience getting very restless at the way they were not being permitted to hear me deliver my lecture, I then said to the leader of the Jewish community who was attacking me, I said, it just came to me like this. I said, I look at myself in the mirror in the mornings, and I know that I am disliked. I've been called disliked by reviewers in England. The Sunday Times called me the most disliked historian in Britain, which caused me to write a letter to The Sunday Times saying, is it the historian's duty to be liked, therefore? And how do you know that I'm the most disliked historian in Britain? Do you stand in Oxford Street with a clipboard asking people, what do you think about historians? How do you rate David? And, oh, he's most disliked. I know I said to this Jewish mob in my audience that I am disliked, and I know why I am disliked. Now you people have been disliked for 3000 years. Do you ever look in the mirror and ask yourselves why you are disliked? That might be the no. I didn't mean it in a I didn't mean it in an offensive way. I meant it as a helpful, self analytical way, the way that the communist, the Marxist Leninist advised to self criticize and self analyze. Have you ever analyzed ourselves as race And said to yourselves, we have been hounded and persecuted and harried and massacred for 3000 years. Why us? They never ask themselves that question, do they? They never ask them that they come along and they harry and persecute others, and they behave in a fairly obnoxious way as I probably behave in their eyes, but they never asked themselves why, and they never cure their own faults. 1 of the the the leader of the of the of this faction in the audience stood up furiously. From his accent, I could tell not only that he came from England, but from London. And from his accent, in fact, I could tell from which corner of London he came from because England, our accents are like that. We're very class conscious in England. We can tell what class somebody is by their accent, and we can tell which street almost they come from. If you've seen My Third Lady, you'll know this. And I said, you come from Colindale, don't you? And he said, how do you know that? I said, your accent gives you away. And he was the leader of the gang, and he said, are you accusing us? Are you saying that we are responsible for Auschwitz ourselves? It is a bit of a dazzling question, and when you think about it, I said, well, the short answer is yes. But that is a cruel answer because to do the question justice, you've got to have a lot of intervening stages, of course. But the short answer, if you want to hop from a to z, is yes. If you hadn't behaved the way you have as a race for 3000 years, first the Russians, then the Poles, then the Galicians, then the Austrians, and the rest wouldn't have harrowed and hounded you from pillar the post, so you end up finding yourselves in Auschwitz. And you've never asked yourselves why. And they still don't want to accept that. To him that question and my answer was unacceptable. In Germany, it would no doubt have been grounds for another $22,000 fine. In Canada, I would have probably found myself in handcuffs again. But I don't think it was an anti Semitic answer. It was an attempt to be helpful in a kind of psychiatrist couch way. Analyze yourself. Cast out the mote from thine own eye. Yes. A question. Yes. Operation Kielhall. You're gonna have to remind me what Operation Kielhall was. I know the code word, but Speaker 1: That was the, the creation of the Russian citizen. Speaker 2: Oh, yes. That's right. Tolstoy. Nicholas Tolstoy's book and Howard McMillan. At the end of World War 2, there was a lot of tidying up to be done. A lot of people found themselves on the wrong sides of the frontiers. In British prison camps, we had large numbers of German, large numbers of Russian soldiers in German uniforms who had fought on the German side. We had British soldiers in German uniforms. There were Yugoslavs who had fought against Yugoslav. There were people who found themselves on the wrong sides of the lines as they crystallized at the end of World War 2. The question arose what to do with these people. Well, Stalin had a certain leverage because he claimed to hold numbers of allied prisoners or allied troops on his side of the lines that he had found in German camps that had been overrun by the Red Army, and he made it known that he wasn't going to let them go home to the United States and Britain unless we turned over to the Soviet Union and to Yugoslavia the peoples that they wanted, like the Cossacks, like the Vlasov troops who had fought in Russian troops who had fought on on the German side. And so we took the ignominious step of hoping nobody would notice that we were quietly sweeping these people over the frontier into the Russian hands or into the hands of marshal Tito, knowing that they were going to be liquidated as soon as they arrived. Harold Macmillan, who was at that time a relatively lowly officer in the British Army, was part of that operation. It's something that nobody can be proud of, but I think you have to show a certain degree of humanity for the people who took those cruel decisions, rotten decisions, and say that they had been misinformed, and they were led to believe that by taking these ignominious steps, they were saving the lives of British or American soldiers who were in Russian or Yugoslav hands. And, also, you have to take into account something which is too easily forgotten years later, and this is the climate of opinion at that time. When you wonder how a German soldier can point a machine gun at helpless women and children standing on the edge of a pit, you can't do it unless if you regard it in vacuo. You can only begin to understand that man's mentality if you think yourself back to the climate of 1942 or 1943 and say to yourself, this man has probably been through the streets of Berlin or a fortsheim or some other German town and seen what the allies have done to his civilians, and the climate of brutality and barbarism arises. And that climate of brutality and barbarism doesn't suddenly end when the war ends, like switching off a TV set. It lingers over for months and for years later. It provides a climate which makes it possible to hold trials like the Nuremberg trial. It provides a climate which makes it possible even now 50 years later for Hollywood still to be churning out films of hatred against the Germans, although in their entire existence, the Nazi filmmakers made only 3 anti Jewish films, the film Judas, the film Der Ewigge Judas, the eternal Jew, and a film about the Rothschilds. Only 3 films made by doctor Goebbels and the Nazi film industry about the Jews, and yet Hollywood has retaliated with tens of thousands of anti German films over the last 50 years because the climate of hatred is still lingering on. What's my best estimate on how many Jews were exterminated or killed? It's an interesting question. And only only recently, in the last month, the leading Jewish magazine in in England called Searchlight, which is a communist operation, has headlined an article saying David Irving now admits the Nazis killed 4,000,000 Jews. And this is a misquotation of what I said on a live Australian radio broadcast 2 months ago when Australian radio did a live interview with me, and the Australian radio asked me the same question. And I said, from all causes during the entire period of the of the the Nazi regime, from 1933 to 1945, I would estimate that up to 4,000,000 Jews will have died from all causes, including air raids, starvation, epidemics, being worked to death, dying of natural causes, everything else. But this magazine turned it around as now recanted and was saying that the Nazis had killed 4,000,000. To answer your question, if we look just at the case of Auschwitz, I think probably as many as 100,000 Jews died in Auschwitz, which is a brutal slave labor camp where they had no business to be. The fact that they died in that camp of natural causes, in quotation marks, epidemics, mostly typhus, is neither here nor there. Of those 100,000, probably about 10,000 were actually physically murdered in the criminal sense. The rest died, They fell by the wayside in in Auschwitz. Machine gun in the pits behind the eastern front. In Auschwitz, we're talking about primarily Western European Jews from out from Hungary, France, Holland, and the other countries where they were rounded up. And, of course, it it raises the logical question. If you're going to kill them and you round them up in France and all these other countries, why ship them all the way across Europe and then kill them when they arrive? It doesn't make sense. It's a logical question. The Eastern European Jews, the Russian Jews who were murdered in the pits, shot in the pits, You can do a few quantitative, analyses there of how many people were killed and isolated. Don't believe the documents because an SS Einsatzgruppen commander, a task force commander, writes a report to Berlin saying, we have, in the last month, murdered 360,000 Jews. Don't believe that. It was their duty to inflate figures. They wanted to create big figures. They wanted body counts rather like the Vietnam War. So those figures are unreliable. In fact, that's been shown as early as the Manstein trial of 1940s when the defendant, the the the lawyers defending Field Marshall Manstein examined these documents and said, here's this Einsatzkommando which claims to have killed 300,000 Jews in 1 month, and all they had was 30 men and 2 3 ton pickup trucks. How could they have transported all these people around? Obvious questions, you see. I think probably on the eastern front, up to 200000 or 300000 Jews from Minsk and the other big cities will have been rounded up and liquidated, not just by Germans, primarily by the Ukrainians and by the the native populations themselves who had scores to settle. Again, this is politically incorrect to mention this. But in Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania, in particular, the local population had bitter scores to settle with the Jews because during the 1 year when those countries were occupied from 1940 to 1941 under the Hitler Stalin pact, they were occupied by the Soviet Union. The the NKVD, which was the secret police, the forerunner of the KGB, had occupied those 3 countries with the reign of terror and using largely Jewish officers because the KGB or the NKVD was largely Jewish officers at that time, they had carried out a rule a rule of liquidation and purge in those 3 countries, murdering 100 of thousands of local middle class entrepreneur. The priests, the businessmen, the intellectuals were rounded up, driven off at dead of night by the communists, by these Jewish organizations, and murdered. And a year later, when Hitler's armies invaded and marched through these countries, they found the local population busy solving the Jewish problem for them, taking revenge. Nobody likes talking about that now. But if you read the records, particularly the German military records, where reports are coming to Hitler's headquarters saying, when we arrived in Riga, we found the local population busy exterminating the dunes. What shall we do? From Hitler's headquarters back goes a signal saying, don't interfere. Don't interfere. This is the true story of what happened. You but you won't it's an unpopular story. Yes. Yes. Well, you're quoting to me figures from the inside of Peter Britannica. I'm I'm repeating this to the end of the camera and to the audience. You're quoting figures from the inside of Peter Britannica on Jewish population statistics, at the end of World War 2 and the increments or reductions in those populations. I have to say there that you can't do meaningful calculations based on those statistics. I've seen people trying to make calculations based on those statistics and saying before World War 2, there were so many Jews in Poland, so many in Russia, so many in Austria, and doing simple sums on the back of an envelope and proving that nothing happened to them, or very little. You can't do that because you come up against serious, as any statistician will explain, a serious statistician, you come up against superable problems of definition. What do you mean by a poll? What do you mean by a Jew? Even the Jews now can't decide who are Jewids. I'll give you one example. There's an article in last week's newspapers by the head of the German Jewish community, Ignaz Bubes, bitterly angry at the 300, 30,000 Jews who flooded into Germany from Russia because he says 1 third of those 30,000 Jews aren't Jews at all. We don't accept that they're Jews. They don't meet our definition of who is a Jew. He's complaining. He said they've come in to Germany because this purely because that was the ticket they needed to get out of the Soviet Union. Who is a Pole? Who is a Polish Jew? I mean, remember Hitler invaded Poland in September 1, 1939. 3 weeks later on 17th, the Russians invaded Eastern Poland. They declared the part of Poland they occupied to be part of the Soviet Union. Hitler, meanwhile, had expelled all the Jews from his half of Poland over the demarcation line into the Soviet part. If the whole situation becomes hopelessly confused, you can't do meaningful calculations. And the Jews have benefited from that because, now they are and now they aren't. Now they're here and now they're not. Now they've got a Hebrew name and now they've got a Goldenberg name. They are what they want to be. They're will of the wisps. You seek them here, you seek them there. You can't do meaningful calculations on the basis of statistics. Speaker 1: That's not true. Speaker 2: Yes. Well, I I I still stick by my opinion that you can't do meaningful statistics on the Jewish problem. The Nazis tried to do it. The Jews who tried to do it. You you you any attempt comes to grief on the basis of what is the definition of a Jew and what do you mean by an Austrian Jew and all the rest of it. Yes. You're next. Speaker 0: In, for the last 2 decades or so, maybe 3 decades, we've heard the co class 12 cover up the gas chambers. Speaker 2: 1st of all, I have not seen any documents produced by the Vatican archives which refer to gas chambers. If they did, they would qualify to my mind for the $1,000 reward which I have offered for 20 years. There is no document. The Jewish community began raising a hue and a cry in September 1942. Gerhard Riegner, who was the secretary general of the World Jewish Congress, who sent an entirely spurious and bogus report to London demanding that it should be sent to his headquarters in New York, talking about Hitler having just taken a decision to kill millions of Jews, and they were going to be killed by poison gas and gas chambers in Poland. And this is the first time that that legend arises. If you look in the British archives, you can see how eventually, a few months later, we turned the legend round and used it as propaganda which we started broadcasting into Germany, which explains where the story then begins to arise for me. We're listening to the echo of our own propaganda. But at the same time, in the British archives, and I've got the files here. I could share it to you after this if you want. The foreign office official who who looks at this report, he says, the only references to gas chambers that we've seen are in documents provided to us by the Jewish community largely because they concern Jews. These people are not reliable sources. They've always exaggerated in the past and we see no reason to believe these people now. And they went on asking the very pertinent question, why use gas chambers? There are much easier ways of killing people. What's wrong with a good old fashioned bullet that hasn't, let the Russians down until now? A very pertinent question. Yes. I've heard the title of the book. I haven't read it yet. If you look in my book, Churchill's War, you'll find I quote a document, a rather unusual document. The question is, did Wall Street bankers finance Hitler? I know what you mean, what you're getting at. The the the German chancellor, Breuning, before Hitler, Hitler's predecessor, he wrote memoirs when when he fled from Germany in 1938. He came to United States eventually, and his papers are in Syracuse University in New York where I've seen them. He wrote a letter to Churchill in 1937 after he had already gone into exile. And in this letter to Winston Churchill, Bruning, the German chancellor said if you knew the problems I had as chancellor, said I discovered that the major Jewish banks in Berlin had been financing Hitler and that one of the banks was controlled by the head of the Jewish community. I have I have a copy of this letter. Now after World War 2, Winston Churchill wrote to Bruning, the chancellor, who was by then living in the United States, and asked Bruning's permission to quote that letter in his 6 volume history of the 2nd World War. Bruning wrote a reply to a church saying, mister prime minister, I'm very sorry to have to reject your to refuse your your permission to quote that letter. It was true what I wrote at the time in 1987, but given what has happened to the Jewish community in the years since then at the hands of the Nazis whom they financed, it would be too tragic for this fact ever to become known. And so Churchill wasn't permitted to quote the letter. And I have all these letters because they're in the files of the Time Life Organization, which published the American edition of the Churchill memoirs at Columbia University in the archives of the the then editor of of Life Magazine, Daniel Longwell. And like going through his private papers, I found copies of these Churchill brooding letters, which are very interesting indeed, of course. Needless to say, that didn't stop me from creating them in my book, Hitler's War. Yes. So Hitler took money from whoever was foolish enough to give it to him. And in this case, the people who were were very foolish indeed. You wanted to ask a question? Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. We Speaker 2: have 2 or 3 more questions then I can go wind up the evening. Speaker 1: Well, I'm one of those that believes our bill of rights, our freedom of speech has completely wiped out by the United Nations Charter to replace our constitution. Do you influence the United Nations on freedom of speech? Speaker 2: Do you influence the United Nations on freedom of speech? Well, I I I can only repeat what I said at the very beginning of my talk, which is how dear and how precious I hold your first amendment rights in this country as a foreigner visiting this country and benefiting from those rights. And I deeply regret that you don't seem to cherish the first amendment writers as much as we do who suffer from other countries, where first where the freedom of speech is progressively eroded, and where a scientist can be sent to prison, as in Germany now, because he comes up with a politically incorrect chemical result. This would be unthinkable in this country, and I only hope that you stand firm to the flag of your first amendment rights in this country, and you don't allow any power to erode them or to to to depredate, them, whether United Nations or any other power. I I strongly mistrust the United Nations, and I can't wait for the day when it finally collapse and implodes. Speaker 1: Yes. I've Speaker 2: I've seen stories that that, Jenny Jerome, the the the mother of Churchill, was Jewish, and, this has been reported in in, Jerusalem newspaper, I think, a few months ago. And I'm obviously looking into that, that she had Jewish blood in her maternal line. Very interesting indeed. I don't think Churchill was cognizant of that fact. He never mentioned it. But what is interesting is his links with the Jewish community, which I'll go into in a little bit of detail here, because they're not been gone into by any of the other Churchill biographers for obvious reason. In particular, the main authorized Churchill biographer, Martin Gilbert, hasn't gone into it for the simple reason that he's one himself, and he doesn't want to harp on on on that fact. But, the two basic areas of interest to to look at in Churchill's career are the period when he was in the so called wilderness, when he resigned from Stanley Baldwin's cabinet as a minister. For the next 10 years until 9 1939, he was out of office, out of any office at all. He was just a member of parliament. So all he had was his salary as a member of parliament and his rather pitiful earnings as a journalist, and yet somehow he managed to to support an enormous country estate, which cost a very large sum of money to support with all the gardeners and the nurseries and the the nurses and the nannies and the cooks and the housekeepers and all the rest of it. He had a private staff of sometimes 20 or 30 people, all supported on his salary as a member of parliament, which was at that time £500 per annum, $750 a year or $2,000 actually because at that time, I think it was $4 per pound. How did he do it? Well, the answer is that from 1936 onwards, he was financed by a little secret pressure group called the focus. You won't find much reference to the Focus in the history books, but it certainly existed, and there are several files of Churchill's private papers relating to the Focus. The focus was a group of perhaps 30 or 40 leading British industrialists and bankers and former politicians who decided that Churchill was worth keeping afloat, and they funded him. They weren't all Jews. They were primarily Jewish, but they were also left wing, socialist and left wing conservative members of parliament who all decided to keep him afloat. In July 1936, the then chairman of the British, of the Shell Petroleum Company wrote out a check for Churchill with the order of £40,000, which in modern day money would be probably about $700,000, gave it to him as a gift. He was Jewish. It was a Jewish gift to Churchill, and the intention was that Churchill they they they bought him. He became the pied piper from that moment on, and the one who pays the piper calls the tune. If you look at the events as they really until 1936, he hardly gave Germany a passing mention in his speeches and writings. Other things were more important. From 1936 onwards, he began beating the anti Nazi, anti German drum. And at that time, there was a great deal of pro German sentiment in Britain as witness to the behavior of the Duke of Windsor, the king. King Edward who king Edward the 8, who ruled for just less than a year after the death of his father was very pro German and pro Hitler and actually got on very well with that outfit when he visited Germany later in in 1937. He was forced to abdicate by the same lobby, but it was this lobby which is financing Churchill from 1936 onwards and which finally maneuvered and engineered his introduction into the cabinet in 1939 and finally his taking over as prime minister in 1940. He fought a war that Britain had no real interest in. I've repeatedly said this. Any logical perception of World War 2 now, looking back after 50 years, screams to the high heavens, and we can see quite clearly that we should have said we should have said to the Poles in 1939, you've got a problem with the Germans. Sort it out yourself. We should have said to the to the Jews, you've got a problem with the Nazis. Sort it out yourself. It's no concern of Britain and the British empire. We've got other fish to fry. That's what we should have said. Churchill, unfortunately, was beholden to these people, and he had no alternative. So in 1940, when we had a choice put to us of accepting the very generous peace offer that was put to us, which has been concealed from the history books by the Germans, or fighting a totally senseless war onwards, Churchill took the wrong turning and bankrupted Britain and ruined the British Empire. I first said this in my book, Churchill's War in 1987, and now 5 other major historians have said the same thing. This has now become known as the revisionist line of history on of of 2nd World War. And I'm the one who actually opened up that path, making people think the unthinkable, looking at the alternative route that we could have taken in 1940. In 1941, just to end this, it becomes very interesting indeed because the Weizmann Papers, which are the papers of Chaim Weizmann, who was the first president of the state of Israel, and he was the leader of the international Zionist movement throughout World War II. The Weizmann Archives foolishly or wisely gave me complete to all the Weizmann correspondence with Churchill. And in the Weizmann archives, all Churchill's correspondence with Weizmann throughout the war years and before the war and all his notes on his meetings with Churchill. I'm only going to mention one of those letters here. It's a letter written by Chaim Weizmann, the leader of the Zionist movement, at that time living in the United States, to Winston Churchill in September 1941, 3 months before Pearl Harbor, when Churchill is frantically trying to claw the United States into his war because that's his early salvation. And Weizmann writes to Churchill a letter which he says, mister prime minister, unless you grant us what we want, which is the creation of a Jewish army in the Middle East, with our own arsenal and our own weapons and our own uniform and our own flag, unless you grant us what what we want, then you are not going to win us over. And let me tell you what we will do if you do grant us what we want. If you grant us our wishes, then we will act on your behalf in the United States. And remember, mister Churchill, he writes in his letter, remember, we are the only powerful unified block in the United States which solidly backs the British cause in this war, September 1941. Everybody else is basically isolationist. We are the only ethnic unified group which solidly backs the British cause. We are the only people who are in the position to bring the United States into this war. We did it in the last war, and we can do it again. Needless to say, I quote this letter in volume 2 of my Churchill biography in a chapter called We Did It Before and We Can Do It Again, and I don't expect to get any applause from the newspaper community in Britain who haven't revealed this letter. But I think it's a very telling document. I'll take 2 more questions then we'll finish. Yes. Speaker 1: Is there any truth to the idea that Hitler was a descendant of Rothschild? Any truth to the idea Speaker 2: that Hitler was a descendant of Rothschild? I've never heard it before. I don't think so. I think if so, the Rothschild must have deeply regretted it in the court in the black sheep of the family. Final question. One more. Yes. Last question. What Speaker 1: I asked earlier about the BDS camps, I read from 2 sources Speaker 2: that, and this was directly back to Eisenhower. Speaker 1: The prisoner of war camps were designed for starvation in German soldiers, and but really it was a Christmas it was a Christmas for the president of the president of Julian Banks. Speaker 2: Well, it it was a kind of race war, but the the episode you touched on, what happened to the German prisoners in the in the American camps, was in fact investigated in great depth by a friend of mine, Jim Bak, who wrote a book called Other Losses, and he's deeply regretted ever since then having written that book. Until he published that book in Canada, he was a widely respected novelist and historian and one of Canada's best writers doing very well for himself. The moment he published that book in Canada, exactly the same thing happened to him has happened to me since 1977. An attempt to apostrophesize him, an attempt to ruin him by the organized international Jewish community determined not to allow any other episode to distract or divert attention from their own episode, which they've labeled the Holocaust. It's a very interesting case study in the distortion of history and indeed the persecution of those who come up with politically incorrect history. It would be very tactless, I think, for me as a foreigner and as a guest in your country to start comment on on the the proprietors of the federal government. Thank you so much for having turned out this evening. I'm sure you had our voices Speaker 1: in the room. Thank you.
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Ernst Sundl, also known as Mr. Holocaust, shares his experiences and opinions on the Holocaust. He discusses the extensive research he has done on the topic, including reading various books and testimonies. Sundl criticizes what he refers to as the "Holocaust industry," claiming that it has become an industry that profits from the suffering of others. He also questions the accuracy and credibility of some Holocaust literature, highlighting instances where authors have admitted to exaggerating or fabricating events. Sundl expresses his frustration with the powerful Holocaust lobby and the negative impact he believes it has on society. He concludes by stating that the German people have been unfairly vilified and that the number of Jewish deaths in the Holocaust has been greatly exaggerated.
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Speaker 0: I'm Ernst Sundl of Another Voice of Freedom. I'm often referred to by newspaper reporters and the people generally as Mr. Holocaust, because in Canada, I was on trial for 9 years for doubting that the Holocaust as we know it and as Hollywood has made it out to be happened. 9 years of jail being spat at, being knocked to the ground, my house being bombed, my reputation being ruined, my business lost, which I had striven to have built up over 20 years, All my Jewish customers and Jewish acquaintances gone because the media, of course, turned me into this monstrous antisemite. Well, I had to inform myself during those 9 long years and of course before, what really happened during the Holocaust? What did people mean by the Holocaust? And so I did. What do you see around me here are Holocaust related books. I didn't find those in some local garage sale. I bought those over the years as research material. There are books in here that are 800, 900, 1200 pages long. There's Raoul Hilberg's The Destruction of European Jewry, a 3 volume set of books that figured greatly in my trial in 1985 and again in my trial in 1988. I had to buy that set of books, and that set me back over a $150 for those 3 books. Now, as you can see, this is no small matter. This is serious business and expensive business. There are books here by Elie Wiesel, a Nobel Prize winner. There are books here by simple people who survived the 2nd World War and describe their particular fate. There are diaries here, one by a young girl called Anne Frank. Now these books, many of them enjoyed phenomenal success. For instance, The Diary of Anne Frank has turned into a huge international bestseller. At latest count, it was translated into more than 50 languages, 50, 50 languages. And of course, many of these books have been turned into TV specials or into films and have made the authors immensely wealthy. This has led the former Chief Rabbi of England, Emmanuel Jacobowitz into stating that the Holocaust turned into an industry. And he said, an industry which cheapens and reduces and kind of degrades the real suffering of many people in that 2nd World War. He said the Holocaust industry now feeds novelists, moviemakers, writers, textbook writers, filmmakers and Holocaust Museum builders. And he shocked the Jewish world by stating that in a conference in Israel. The industry also, of course, has a lobby, like most industry in a modern world, and these lobbyists see to it that the market for their product or for their merchandise is not going to be ruined by people who question the scholarship, for instance, the quality, the content, the rarity, the truth, just like people test other industrial products. And this Holocaust lobby has headquarters in different parts of the world in the United States. It recently acquired a grotesquely well furnished and financed thing called the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, financed by American taxpayer money and built on federal land with inside of the White House. And 1,000, tens of 1,000, by now already millions of people, especially schoolchildren, are led through these halls of horror, where suitably dim light and German sounds, shouts, gunfire, tollful music, colorful and macabre displays are shown to these young impressionable minds And when one leaves through the guest book at this particular Holocaust Museum, for instance, one has to only shake one's head because one can see the effect on these young minds, these young people, how poisoned they go away from a place like that, and yet school buses after school buses pull up in front of this museum and discourage their young victims, who then go in for this brainwashing session in that building and come out warped most likely for the rest of their lives. Now I, as a German person, find this highly offensive. I find it disgusting. I find it immoral and unethical. And I have spent my young life struggling mightily against these forces of deception and falsification. And in turn, they have hounded me around the world. I have been jailed in Canada, deported from Canada, a country where I came to 35 years ago, and I've lived here and had my family that I raised here and my business. I've been banned because of my activities from the United States for over 6 years. I've lost my passport at the hand of the German Christling government for about 6 years. I've been arrested and jailed and convicted in Germany for stating my viewpoint. I have been arrested and thrown out of Austria for my viewpoint. And so to question the Holocaust is a dangerous thing because make no mistake about it, the lobby is powerful and well connected. And of course, 1,000,000 upon 1,000,000 of dollars are being made every day by movies, like the latest Hollywood Holocaust promotion film by Steven Spielberg called Schindler's List. I want to point out what the problem is with some of this Holocaust literature. It makes no difference that famous people like Elie Wiesel, for instance, have written about it, because even famous people are just people, and they are flawed. And so I've put together a little Holocaust resource book, which I use when I do interviews or when I go to court. One thing that has struck me is that there were some people who at one time wrote passionately about the Holocaust, had second thoughts or suddenly were confronted by truths or by some reporters or by some question. And they took another look at their own writings. One of them was Professor Michel Desboard. In 1986, Michel Desboard, a former inmate of Mauthausen, honorary Dean of the Faculty of Letters at the University of Caen, Normandy in France, member of the Committee for the History of the Second World War, member of the Institute de France said the following. In a monograph on Mauthausen that I published in La Revie du M Guerre modial in 1954, I mentioned a gas chamber on 2 occasions. When the time of reflection had arrived, I said to myself, where did you arrive at the conviction that there was a gas chamber in Mauthausen? This cannot have been during my stay in this camp, for neither myself nor anybody else ever suspected that there was one there. This must therefore be a piece of baggage that I picked up after the war. This was an admitted fact, but I noticed that in my text, although I have the habit of supporting most of my statements by references, there was none referring to the gas chamber. Now this man, Professor Michel Desbois, obviously is quite a courageous man because he corrects himself. And he closes by saying, I found myself torn between my conscience as a historian and the duties it implies, and on the other hand, my membership in a group of comrades, whom I deeply love, but who refuse to recognize the necessity of dealing with the deportation as a historical fact in accordance with sound historical methods. I'm haunted by the thought that in 100 years or even 50 years, the historians will question themselves on this particular aspect of the 2nd World War, which is the concentration camp system and what they will find out. The record is rotten to the core. On one hand, a considerable amount of fantasies, inaccuracies obstinately repeated in particular concerning numbers, heterogeneous mixtures, generalizations and on the other hand, very dry critical studies that demonstrate the inanity of those exaggerations. I fear that those future historians might then say that the deportation, when all is said and done, must have been a myth. There lies the danger that haunts me. Now naturally, he as a former Mauthausen inmate is concerned about the deportations because hugely exaggerated tales about French Jews being killed at the hands of the Germans have been bandied about. And during one of my trials, it was brought out that the French had very accurate records on these deportations from France to Germany and that only 74,000 people were deported from France to German camps. And we had one witness, whom we'll come to again somewhat later, claim that alone in Auschwitz, 150,000 French people were gassed by the Germans. So this is what this professor is warning against. But there are other Jewish voices and not as recent as this good professor. There was a man in America putting out a magazine, and it was called Jewish Social Studies. In volume 12, January 1950, number 1, he says the following. His name, by the way, is Samuel Greengauss. Some methodological problems in the study of the ghetto. That's the title of his essay. He says the difficulties in studying the great Jewish catastrophe are manifold. And he goes on and says, last but not least, there is what may perhaps be termed the hyper historical complex of the survivors. Never before was an event so deeply sent by its participants as being part of an epoch making history in the making. Never before was a personal experience felt to be so historically relevant. The result of this hyper historical complex has been that the brief postwar years have seen a flood of historical materials rather contrived, then again, collected. So that today, one of the most delicate aspects of research is the evaluation of the so called research material. In other words, this man already in 1950 realized that the facts of the Holocaust has then presented only 5 years after the war should be checked and double checked. And he closes by saying, the hyper historical complex may be described as judeocentric, lococentric and egocentric. It concentrates historical relevance on Jewish problems of local events under the aspect of personal experience. And here comes a clincher. This is the reason why most of the memoirs and reports are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies. My case rests. In 1950, Samuel Gringaus, an honest Jew, put the finger right on the problem. And here we are in 1994 treated to the disgusting spectacle of yet another book, again, falling under the description that Greencastle has given called Schindler's List. But it is symptomatic that people that write in this area, in this genre have written books. For instance, in this case, a book called I Cannot Forgive. And the man was Professor Werbauer. Now I know Werba personally. I watched him degrade himself and disgrace himself in a Canadian courtroom, where he was witness against me. In his book, I cannot forgive, he states that it is the truth, the amazing true story of a 17 year old Jewish boy, who defied the Germans at Auschwitz and escaped to alert the world to the Nazi horror camps. Now, in the courtroom, in the introduction to the book, one of his writers that helped him write the book said, he, Vrba, he worked with me hard and patiently. Indeed, I would like to pay tribute to him for the immense trouble he took over every detail for the meticulous, almost fanatical respect he revealed to accuracy and for the courage, which this cold blooded survey of 2 ghastly years demanded. Now that was in London, October 1963. Book by Rudolf Berber. Now it's out under a title called SK from Auschwitz. Just to show you what we are facing. During my trial, Vrba was in the witness stand, and I can give you the exact date. It was January 23, 1985. My attorney stepped up to Rudolf Verba and asked him when he was under oath, I now produce and show to you a book entitled, I Cannot Forgive. Are you the author of this book? Answer, I'm the co author. Question, did you check it and see that all the contents were true? Some more questions follow and some more answers. And so my attorney asked him, all the contents are true? Answer, I wouldn't answer in a direct way to this question because this is a work of literature and not a document. And therefore, I would like to make certain remarks on the background of the book, which will make it more clear to you what the book is about. And so on page 1389 in the cross examination of Werba, he says, consequently, what is in the book is a condensed story written in a style which should enable especially a young person untrained and unprepared for the horror of the century without too much trouble to understand to what lowness some parts of mankind as represented by the Nazis were able to descend. Therefore, that book should not be considered as a document, but as an artistic picture of the events, which has got not more value than the artistic picture of the artist who is here now painting or drawing this courtroom to show to the masses of people who cannot come here to give them some idea of what was happening here. And he ends by saying, however, it is understood that it is only an attempt for an artistic depiction of those catastrophic events And the discussion of the book would therefore belong into the realm of a literary afternoon, which I am perfectly prepared to spend with you, Mr. Counsell. Let me come back to Mr. Vrba's book because in the beginning of the preface, the author best success, there is no chip on his shoulder and bitterness, where it exists, is controlled carefully by undeniable facts, not by fancies, which the years have nourished. In 1985, finally, when we had him under oath in a Canadian courtroom, where he had to face the music, this liar took refuge in artistic license. And I can assure you, as one of my Jewish witnesses during that trial said, his name was Josef Borg, who had taught me many things I know about the Holocaust. He said under oath in this Canadian courtroom, that same courtroom, that if these Jewish witnesses were put under oath in a Jewish religious ritual that 99.9% of the lying would stop. And I think we ought to consider that when we look at this mountain of anti German hate propaganda that has been so emotionally presented and this book by Vrba, which has sold 1,000,000 over the years undoubtedly has gone through many additions and incarnations, now is published without the reference of it being a truthful rendition with great accuracy and all this kind of stuff. He took a Canadian court case to make this man retract, and yet he still runs around as a Holocaust expert and as a Holocaust witness. Then there's another book in a very similar case, Treblinka. We have a book here by a guy called by Jean Francois Steiner. Now a foreword was written by Simone de Beauvoir, such a famous person. And this book got a CHF700,000 literary price in Europe for the best documentary on this particular subject and when Ivan the Terrible or Ivan Demiuk was on trial in Israel, one of the researchers for the defense team went to see Steiner and asked him because he had written in this book that he had seen Ivan killed with a spade. He made light of it and retracted. And one of the witnesses who before that had written a 14 page affidavit that he had seen Ivan the Terrible killed, a fellow called, I think, Eliyahu Rosenberg said brazenly in a courtroom in Israel, obviously, I must have been mistaken because the real Ivan is right here pointing at this poor hapless man, Ivan Damianiuk, since exonerated and sent back to the United States. So that's the quality of these books. We have the diary of Anne Frank, this wonderful bestseller, tearjerker, that has been a textbook in so many schools around the world and in so many languages. Even in Japan, they have a museum to the girl. And yet, the German police investigated pages of the diary and found that they were written in ballpoint pen ink. Now since that time, this is being disputed by Dutch authorities. All I can say is then Germany must have the dumbest, most incompetent cops, And the Germans have rarely been accused of that. We have a famous book, another one here, The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich by Shirer, a man who just died well into his late 80s. And when I took political science at Churchill Williams University in Montreal, my professor said, if anybody wrote a history paper based on the information in this book, this international bestseller for the last 30 years, he would flunk him, he would fail him because he said, this book is not history, it is propaganda. Then we have another famous book here, Legends of Our Time by none other than Elie Wiesel, who is the Pope of the Holocaust. And he says an interesting thing in this book, sold in every bookstore in Canada, is that there is a time to love and the time to hate. Whoever does not hate when he should, does not deserve to love, when he should, does not deserve to love when he is able. Perhaps had we learned to hate more during the years of ordeal, fate itself would have taken fright. He closes by saying, I cry out with all my heart against silence. Now listen to this. Every Jew somewhere in his being should set apart a zone of hate, healthy, virile hate for what the German personifies and for what persists in the German. Now, this is the man who hobnobbs with presidents, who goes to the White House and who lectures the American president on whether he could go to make peace between former enemies in the cemetery of Bitburg. But there are other things that need to be touched on. One is this little publication here by the Jehovah's Witness sect. It's called The Wake. It's published in many, many languages in 12,000,000 copies. And it has an entire article, falls from the beginning to the end about the Holocaust. I know because it deals with me. Finally, I want to tell you there's a lot of talk about extermination. And the Germans are accused of having this master plan for exterminating the Jews. Well, the details are at once rare and troublesome, as certain writers have said. Here is a plan by a Jewish writer called Kaufmann, called Germany Must Perish. Any details? In gruesome detail, how to take the Germans, and it says the population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, almost equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of German extinction, it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000 people, a figure which excludes because of their limited power to procreate males over 60 years of age and females over 45. Now there is the only written plan of extermination of an entire people, and it's in English. It was published in United States, and the author was Jewish. And the American media thought it was a sensational idea according to Time Magazine. And Washington, D. C. Posted a provocative theory interestingly presented. So as far as the Holocaust is concerned, the Germans are the real victims, and they have been victimized for the last 50 years. Jewish people who suffered in the Holocaust and who were still alive were handsomely and fairly compensated, and Germany has paid over €105,000,000,000 marks in compensation. And there ought to be an end to this vilification of an entire people. No 6,000,000 Jews ever died in what they like to call the Holocaust. This is the most outrageous lie of modern times. I am Ernst Schindel speaking for another voice of freedom.

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During World War II, the Germans ran prison and labor camps, including Auschwitz in Poland. The Holocaust, the genocide of 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews, is said to have taken place there. However, some people question the evidence and claim it has never been proven. The Auschwitz main camp, now a tourist attraction, is presented as a gas chamber and crematorium, but there are doubts about its authenticity. The gas chamber is a reconstruction, and there are discrepancies in the information provided by tour guides and experts. The Soviet Union, which provided much of the evidence, has a history of propaganda and deception. The debate about the Holocaust continues.
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Speaker 0: It is an undisputed fact of history that during World War 2, the Germans ran a network of prison and labor camps both in Germany and in the territories they controlled. Into these camps were sent Jews, prisoners of war, resistance fighters, gypsies, and other people considered enemies of the Third Reich. The largest of these camps was the one called Auschwitz, located in Poland. Those interned at Auschwitz came from all over Europe and consisted of men, women, and children. Those able to work were used as labor for the German war effort. Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviet Army in January of 1945. But that is where the consensus ends. Since the end of World War 2, we have been told repeatedly that many of these camps served a darker purpose. The genocide of 6,000,000 Jews and the execution of 5,000,000 non Jews through the use of homicidal gas chambers in what is now commonly known as the Holocaust. The largest number of people are said to have been murdered at Auschwitz. But there are some people who maintain that these claims of mass murder have never been proven. These people point to the lack of documentation other than the highly questionable, and already partially discredited evidence supplied by the Soviet Union at the Nuremberg trial, and the unreliable nature of the eyewitness testimonies, many of which have also been discredited. For example, many former camping mates as well as American soldiers still speak of gassings at the Dachau camp in Germany, even though it is no longer held that any gas chamber was ever in use at that camp. Still, the Holocaust is an event that has seemingly grown in importance since the end of the war. Taught as fact, usually accepted without question. But how do we know if it really happened? What proofs are offered for those not willing to take history on faith alone? This video deals with, among other things, one of those proofs. One piece in a very large puzzle. The supposed gas chamber at the Auschwitz main camp. This tape is the first in a series of tapes covering my September 1992 trip to Europe to investigate firsthand the sites of the alleged final solution. It is by no means intended to be the last word on the Holocaust controversy, but just the opposite. I hope this tape can begin an open debate that's long overdue. What is fact and what is simple wartime propaganda regarding the event we have come to know as the Holocaust? This is the Auschwitz main camp or Stammlager. There are three parts to what is known as Auschwitz. There is Auschwitz 1, the main camp, a well built compound which existed before World War 2 as a military barracks, and was slightly modified by the Germans when they took it over. Then there's Auschwitz 2, also known as Auschwitz Birkenau, which was constructed during the war as an expansion of the main camp. And there's Auschwitz 3 or Auschwitz Monowitz, a large industrial area where many inmates were forced to work. It is Auschwitz 1, the main camp, which is the center of Auschwitz tourism. It is here that tours are conducted hourly in English, Polish, German, and French. By their own figures, over half a 1000000 people visit here every year, and the place has become a curious shrine, a mix of crass commercialism and religious reverence with a hotel, restaurant, gift shop, and booths selling all manner of video equipment like batteries and video tapes in all formats so that no one need worry about missing a shot of the final solution. This is a shrine which combines Catholic expressions of identity and mourning with Jewish ones, and this has traditionally caused some tension. Jewish groups have charged that the polls downplay the role of Jewish suffering. And while few would openly suggest it, it could be said that in the West, Jews have attempted to monopolize Auschwitz as a uniquely Jewish experience. Already, we reach an important point in our examination of the Holocaust. It is an event interpreted differently in various corners of the world. The Soviets have always stressed the suffering of Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, and others. Post World War 2 Soviet propaganda films often made little mention of Jews. To the Polish locals, Auschwitz is given a Catholic face with all the usual fetishes. The suffering of Polish priests and other martyrs is stressed, and the attempted extermination of the Polish people is the preferred theme. But in the Western world, we get a single mindedly Jewish interpretation with the non Jewish deaths being used mainly to keep non Jewish interest in the holocaust alive by giving non Jews some involvement in it. But we are told that even though non Jews suffered as well, it is the Jews and the Jews only who were marked for extermination. This schism has often resulted in well publicized disputes, such as the convent of Carmelite nuns who took up residence here at Auschwitz against the wishes of many Jewish groups, and the time a touring Polish Auschwitz exhibit was protested for not being Jewish enough. However, at the camp itself, there's more than enough victimization to go around. The layout of the Auschwitz main camp is fairly simple. A square of barbed wire fence surrounds rows and rows of inmates' barracks, a large mess hall, and a few surprises, which we will get to later. Outside the fenced in area are the SS Headquarters, these two buildings, and the SS Hospital and Restaurant. Across from that is the building known as Crematorium 1, the infamous gas chamber and crematorium. Most of the inmates' barracks have been converted into museums, which make up the bulk of the guided tour. The rest of the barracks are used as either archives or offices for museum staff. One barrack, block 11, has been kept in its original state. It was the camp prison and it is now referred to naturally as the block of death which brings up another interesting point. What is shown on the tour and what is not? During the tour, you are shown the block of death, the so called wall of death, naturally right next door to the block of death, and exhibit after exhibit specifically designed to affirm atrocity stories and portray Auschwitz as a death machine, a place where internment meant extermination. But what don't they show you? To start with, a building which could conceivably be called the block of life. A massive disinfestation complex where Zyklon B gas was used daily to combat lice and the disease they carried. These were the real gas chambers, except their victims were clothing and mattresses, and their purpose was to preserve the health of the inmates. Holocaust experts don't deny the purpose of this building. They just don't like mentioning it. After all, why complicate things? Also forgotten is the Auschwitz Camp Theater, the current home of the aforementioned convent of nuns. The last pictures taken inside this building showed pianos and costumes and a stage where the inmates used to put on productions. These days, however, the nuns don't allow pictures to be taken inside. And finally, we have the Auschwitz swimming pool. Yes. That's right. Swimming pool situated inside the prison compound right alongside the inmates' barracks. A beautiful pool with a diving board and starter's blocks for races. To their credit, the Auschwitz camp officials have not tried to remove this distraction. But if you wanna see the pool, you need to know already that it exists because you won't find it on the tour. So, basically, what we have is a tour that consists mainly of tourists who already believe in the Holocaust story and are perhaps emotionally connected to it in some way, being given a selectively edited tour filled with horror story after horror story and ending up at the final stop, the gas chamber. At that point, the tour group is emotionally primed to believe anything, and the gas chamber is like the featured performer after a 2 hour warm up act to get the crowd in the mood. Literally, the gas chamber is the objective proof that everything they've heard on the tour is true, objective proof of the Holocaust. But is it? We'll see in a minute. I went to Auschwitz in September of 1992 to see for myself this place that I have studied for so long. I paid extra for a personal English language tour guide, a young lady named Alicia who gives tours in Polish, German, and English. And I wore my yamulka just so nobody missed the point that I'm Jewish. I figured that way I could ask my questions in a manner that would not make me look like a revisionist. You see, in the past, revisionists haven't had much success in getting answers from the Auschwitz officials, but I would come off as a righteous Jew wanting to know the real facts and answer those who say the Holocaust never happened. For the sake of clarity, not only am I a revisionist, I am also quite proudly an atheist. But my parents are both Jewish, so if you're a Jew by birth, you're a Jew by birth. It's not anything I'd be ashamed of. Alicia, like the other tour guides, had to take a class and memorize a spiel to become one. This is an important point because I'm hoping to show that the people who run Auschwitz, like doctor Frantisek Pieper and the tour guide supervisor you'll meet shortly, teach their tour guides to say things they know aren't true. But this shouldn't reflect badly on Alicia. She only repeats what she's been told, and I'm sure she never had to put up with a tourist like me before. I have over 4 hours of footage of me taking the tour, asking one obnoxious question after another. This footage will be re edited into a separate tape. This time, we're just going to concern ourselves with the gas chamber and my interview with doctor Fronciczeck Pieper, senior curator and head of archives at the Auschwitz State Museum. I came to Auschwitz as a confirmed skeptic about the gas chamber story. I noticed some people critically examining the holocaust is the ultimate sacrilege, but you'll have to realize that I have no sacred cows, and understanding what really happened is important to me, and I'd ask that you respect that. I know from years of my own research and the research of others that proofs of the Holocaust are few. Literally, all there is are the eyewitness testimonies and post war confessions. There is no picture, plan, or wartime document dealing with homicidal gas chambers or a plan to exterminate the Jews. And we can't use the excuse that the Nazis destroyed all the evidence because after we had broken the German code, we were able to intercept their secret transmissions, including those that came from Auschwitz. The key to understanding the Holocaust story is understanding the true nature of the things passed off as proofs. Everything that is used as evidence of the Holocaust also can be said to have a perfectly normal explanation. For example, these exhibits are said to be the material proofs of exterminations. There's the piles of human hair. But what does that prove? It's acknowledged that each inmate had his or her head shaved because of the lice problem. That's not denied. So why wouldn't there be piles of human hair? What about the piles of shoes and clothing? Is that a proof? It's a fact that the prisoners were issued a uniform upon arrival, including shoes. So why wouldn't there be piles of inmates' shoes and clothing? It doesn't prove anybody was killed. And that's giving the Soviets and Poles the benefit of the doubt that the clothes and hair are genuinely from the camp during its operation. What about the canisters of gas? No one denies that cyclone b was used to disinfect clothes and also buildings. Zyklon b was one of the premier pest control agents in Europe at that time. It was present in most of the concentration camps, including those that are not said to have had homicidal gas chambers in them. The typhus epidemic that spread throughout Europe during the war and also spread through the camps called for stringent lice control procedures. In his book, Auschwitz Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers, published by the Klarsfeld Foundation and meant to refute revisionists, Jean Claude Pressack admits that over 95% of the Zyklon B used by the Germans was used to disinfect. He assigns only 5% to homicidal purposes and this from a holocaust supporter. So what other proofs are offered? Well, there's the usual pictures of sick inmates, which proves the groundbreaking thesis that people got sick in the camp. Once again, I'll add that nobody denies the typhus epidemic which resulted in many deaths. Then there's the artwork and the pictures of children. But at this point, it's looking pretty bad for somebody looking for objective proofs of the gas chamber. And some of the proofs they present actually work against the concept. For example, they have one of several aerial photographs taken of Auschwitz by the allies during the war. They don't mention, however, that when blown up, these photos don't show people being gassed or bodies being burned even though they were taken during the time killings were said to be going on almost nonstop. I won't even go into the special money the Germans printed for Auschwitz inmates or the fact that even though it is said that Jewish children were killed immediately, both Anne Frank and her sister were sent to Auschwitz and survived, later being transferred to the Bergen Belsen camp where they are said to have died from typhus. But all this bickering would be pointless if we could see a genuine gas chamber for ourselves. That, of course, would most effectively end the argument. Which brings us to the building I'm standing in front of, the gas chamber and crematorium. Pictures of this building have been featured in book after book on the holocaust. After all, what better proof it all happened? Revisionists don't dispute that this is a real building from during the war. We say that it was indeed a crematorium and a mortuary which also was used as an air raid shelter for the s s men in the hospital and restaurant right across the street from it. The Auschwitz people say it was indeed a mortuary and decreatorium with the mortuary part, which you're looking at right there, later being used as the gas chamber. They also say that it was used as an air raid shelter. And they have, in the past, admitted that the large brick chimney at the side of the building is a reconstruction, which is no big shock to anybody because it clearly isn't connected to the building in any way. Now let's go inside. Once inside, we can see why revisionists have had such a field day with this building. Obvious marks on the walls and floors where apparently walls had been knocked down, equally obvious holes in the floor where bathroom facilities had been. We maintain that, unlike the large hollow chamber we now see, this room had once been 5 rooms, including a bathroom. I should add that there is no Zyklon b blue staining in the walls as there would have been with repeated Zyklon B use and as there were and still are in the disinfestation chambers. A flimsy wooden door with a big glass pane in it. And a doorway with no door, and no fittings for a door, leading to the crematorium ovens. And I should also mention the big manhole, right in the middle of the gas chamber. Yet the building does have what appears to be evidence of criminal usage. Four holes in the ceiling, which lead to the roof where 4 little chimneys stand. It is said that through these 4 holes, ziklon b crystals were dropped. And indeed there seems to be no other explanation for them. Do these holes prove homicidal gassings? Revisionists have claimed in the past that these holes were added after the camp's liberation, and that the inside walls were knocked down and the bathroom facilities removed to make the room look like a big gas chamber. As Alicia and I approached the building, we pass the gallows where the commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoss, was hanged by the Soviets in 1947, executed directly in front of the evidence of his crime. Here, in front of the gas chamber, I asked Alicia about the authenticity of that building. Now let's let's start again talking about this building here. This Speaker 1: Yeah. Rheumatarium Gas Chamber. Speaker 0: But this is a reconstruction. Speaker 1: It is in original state. Original? Original state. Speaker 0: Now there, Alicia has very clearly represented the gas chamber as being in its original state. Once inside, I asked her specifically about the 4 holes in the ceiling. Are those the original holes in the ceiling? Speaker 1: It is an original part. Original. Speaker 0: That is original. Speaker 1: Original in for this chimney was called cyclone beam. Speaker 0: I then asked Alicia if any walls had ever been knocked down in the room exhibited as the gas chamber. So its part was on the gas chamber. Mhmm. Were there were there walls here at one time? Speaker 1: But here, you it was only one room. Only one room that here, I I know here When here I show picture of gas chamber, it was only one room. Speaker 0: So would there be those there ever were walls here? No. Let's pause here to recap the gas chamber according to our tour guide. She states that the room is in its original state, that the ceiling holes are original, and that no walls were knocked down. Unsatisfied with her answers, I continued to badger poor Alicia about the real history of this room. Feeling somewhat exasperated at the fact that nothing she could say would shut me up, Alicia went to get a woman who was introduced to me as the supervisor of tour guides for the Auschwitz State Museum. When I saw this woman approach, I figured I was either going to get a straight answer or kicked out of the camp. Speaker 2: This is what I can suggest. It will be much better to go to our scientist in the State Museum and to talk. They show you a lot of plants, which we still have in the archives. And they Speaker 0: Where would that be? Speaker 2: I don't think that it's open today, but probably in Monday, it will be possible. Speaker 0: That's the the Auschwitz State Museum? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 0: Is that in? Is that Sure. Speaker 2: In block number 24 and 23, I'm not sure about it. Speaker 0: Would it be possible for me to make an appointment to speak to see him on Monday, perhaps? Speaker 3: That's true. Speaker 0: So it was here that it was first suggested I meet with the head of archives and senior curator, doctor Froncicek Pieper. Still, fearing that such a meeting might not come about, and assuming that the supervisor was probably in the loop regarding any reconstructions, I decided to get her input regarding the supposedly original holes in the ceiling. Are those the original holes in the ceiling? They've been rebuilt? Yes. Okay. After the war. After the war. So if you're keeping score, that makes it one vote for original, one vote for not original. I guess that would make doctor Pieper the tie breaker. Now before we proceed any further, a little digression is needed about some genuine holocaust revisionism. Doctor Fransicek Pieper is one of the holocaust experts most directly responsible for the lowering of the Auschwitz death count. Along with other scholars like Israeli Holocaust expert, doctor Yehuda Bauer, it was decided around 1989 to admit publicly that fewer people died at Auschwitz than had previously been reported. In his book, Auschwitz, How Many Perished, doctor Pieper concludes that the old Soviet provided figure of 4,000,000 is wrong, and that the real figure is closer to 1,100,000. Now that's no small revision, an admission that the Soviets exaggerated the figure by almost 4 times. We can also see how the fraudulent figure has been an ingrained part of supposedly factual Holocaust history for almost 50 years. As late as 1988, in the official Auschwitz State Museum guidebook, you'll find on page 19 an official affirmation of the 4000000 figure. The Soviet State Extraordinary Commission for the Investigation of Nazi Crimes stated that no less than 4,000,000 people perished in Auschwitz. The Supreme National Tribunal in Poland stated that about 4,000,000 persons perished in Auschwitz. According to the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg, more than 4,000,000 persons perished in Auschwitz. And these figures are based upon the evidence of 100 of surviving prisoners and upon the opinion of experts. Well, this shows that not only was fraudulent Soviet evidence admitted as fact at Nuremberg, but also that survivors and experts can be wrong. And if it matters, many holocaust revisionists believe that the actual total of dead at Auschwitz is even less than 1,100,000. But still, there is no possibility that even the most extreme holocaust revisionist in the world could possibly revise the figure any more than the Holocaust experts already have. Which rather neatly brings us to this man, doctor Fronczycic Pieper. I interviewed him in his office at the Auschwitz State Museum. At first, he was a little apprehensive about being videotaped. But I explained to him that since I already had the tour guide on tape, giving out what I had now come to believe was incorrect information, I should have a videotape which could set the record straight. Once he consented, I immediately asked him about changes made in the gas chamber. Speaker 3: So first, since all of this gas chamber, which existed in Auschwitz 1, this can go out here. Operators from the old 10 1941 to December 1942. And that's maybe 1 year. Kremmectoid nearby this, gas chamber were longer to the middle of that protein 3. In, July, 1940 3, the crematorium, was stopped, and the parties of the prisoners died in Auschwitz 1 were, from the time, transferred to Bilk ground. In 1944, in connection with the bombardment of Auschwitz by, allies, air forces, Empty crematorium number 1 in glass chamber, now this 1, were adopted as, the air shelter. The tiles, additional walls were built inside, former gas chamber. And, this additional entrance was made from, from this, East Side of the gas chamber. And, openings in the ceiling, the gas side from b was discharged inside where, the time liquidated. So after the liberation of the camp, the owner of Gas Chamber presented the view of a shelter. In order to gain this, earlier view, earlier sight of this this object. It's inside walls. Built in 19 44 were remote with the remote. And the opening is the ceiling were, made, annual. So, now, this last chamber is very similar to this one which existed 1941, 1942. But not all details were made there. So there is no gas type. Those, for instance, additional entrance from the east site arrested as it was made in that part of fall. Such changes were made here after the war in order to gain the the brilliant view of this object. Speaker 0: Were the holes in the ceiling put in in the same way that they were? Yes. In the same in Speaker 3: the same, place because the traces were Speaker 0: Here, I think we should recap what doctor Pieper has told us. According to him, the room was a gas chamber, but was later turned into an air raid shelter. At which time dividing walls were built, the holes in the ceiling were removed, and a new door was added on one side of the gas chamber. However, after the camp's liberation, the dividing walls were knocked down, The holes were put in the ceiling. However, the new door was not removed. I think here there are 3 main points that have to be made. The first of these is that we are looking at a clear deception. As I have shown, the gas chamber is shown off to tourists as being in its original state, even though the museum officials know better. Doctor Peeper appears to be very nonchalant about the fact that changes were made after the war. But if it isn't such a big deal, then why hide it from the tourists? And that's not all. In May of 1992, British historian David Irving was fined by a German court for telling a meeting in Munich exactly what you've just heard doctor Pieper tell you. In fact, Pieper was even called as a defense witness, but the judge wouldn't allow him to testify even though it might have cleared Irving. Once again, I'll say if this is not such a big deal, why find somebody for saying it? Our next point is the gas chamber is no longer valid as proof in its present state. It is not a proof of homicidal gassings unless it can be shown that at some time during the war, this building had 4 holes in the ceiling and no dividing walls during the time the Germans were operating the camp. Which brings us to our final point, the Reconstruction itself. With the information we now have, we can say that there are 2 different views of the gas chamber reconstruction. The first one, the official view, holds that the Soviets and Poles created a gas chamber in an air raid shelter that had been a gas chamber. The revisionist view holds that the Soviets and Poles created a gas chamber in an air raid shelter that had been an air raid shelter. So how do we know which one is correct? Well, obviously, the burden of proof is on those who say that there was a gas chamber at one time in that building. Do they have any evidence at all to support that claim? In my tenure as a holocaust revisionist, I'm sure if there was any, I'd have seen it. I can also add that those questionable four holes in the roof of the building are not detectable in any of the aerial photograph blow ups that I've seen. To get to the truth of this matter, there are some other pertinent questions that can be asked. If there was at one time a functioning gas chamber in this building, why was its operation halted, especially if the Nazis were running Auschwitz as an extermination center? Well, doctor Pieper has an answer for that one too. In an essay published in the Polish book, Auschwitz, Pieper writes that exterminations were moved to new gas chambers in the Auschwitz Birkenau complex because it had become too difficult to keep the gas chamber at the Auschwitz main camp a secret from the inmates. This has apparently become part of official Auschwitz lore because it's something that Alicia repeated to me on the tour. Speaker 1: In spite of, this crematorium was next to blocks where the prisoners lived. That's why extermination was moved to Birkenau. That's why 4 crematoriums with gas chambers were built in Birkenau. Speaker 0: Now let's be perfectly clear about this. They say that exterminations were moved to Birkenau because the gas chamber at the main camp was too close to the inmates and therefore they could know what was going on. But is this even remotely accurate? Let's refer back to our map of the main camp. Now here's the gas chamber right there. And there is the rows of inmates' barracks. As you can see the gas chamber is well outside of the prison compound and is hidden from view by the 3 s s buildings, which effectively hide it from the inmates' site. Plus we're told that arrivals who were going to be gassed would be taken in through here. Thus avoiding any and all contact with the other inmates. This was a gas chamber that could have functioned completely isolated from anybody's notice. Now this is Auschwitz Birkenau in an allied aerial photo from September 1944. These are the 2 crematoriums and gas chambers with the crematoriums above ground and an l shaped below ground rooms that were either gas chambers or mortuaries. And here you have the rows and rows of inmates' barracks. Now the thing that becomes immediately clear is there is nothing but a barbed wire fence hiding the inmates' barracks from the gas chambers. And this over here was the Auschwitz sports field right next door to the gas chambers. And another thing to notice is not only could you see the gas chamber parallel with the barracks, but you could see diagonally to the one across the way from you. Nothing was hidden from the inmates. Another interesting thing was the train that would come up carrying the doomed inmates, You would have thousands of inmates being marched off the trains into one of these two gas chambers in full view of the entire camp. This was a spectacle that nobody at the camp could miss. They would see thousands of people marching into those buildings and nobody coming out. These were gas chambers that were not isolated from anyone. And, indeed, when these aerial photographs were released in the late seventies, they contradicted many supposed eyewitness claims about how the Nazis had tried to camouflage the gas chambers at Birkenau. I spent several days here at Birkenau and the footage I have, which is available on a separate tape, dramatically shows everything I've just been saying. Frankly, I don't think Peeper's claim holds any water. Another question that should be asked, is there any ziklon b residue in the gas chamber knowing that cyanide gas would in fact leave a residue? In 1988, execution equipment expert Fred Lutcher conducted forensic examinations on the gas chambers at Auschwitz to answer that question. He took samples from the 4 gas chambers at Birkenau, the one at the main camp, and the control sample from one of the disinfestation chambers that we know did use Zyklon B. Now the gas chamber samples showed almost no appreciable traces, whereas the disinfestation sample literally went right off the scale. More importantly though, in 1990, the Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow decided to conduct their own forensic tests to see if they could refute Fred Lutcher's findings, and they did this with doctor Pieper's help. And their own tests got back the same results. So since then, the question has not been, are there any appreciable traces of Zyklon B residue in the gas chambers, but instead, why are there not any appreciable traces? I put this question to doctor Pieper. I asked him why are there so few appreciable traces in the homicidal gas chambers compared to the large amounts of traces found in the disinfestation chambers. Speaker 3: The gas chamber, gas cycle b was operated very short time, about 20, 30 minutes during 24 hours. And in the disinfection rooms. It was it operated, home, day and night. That such was a procedure of using gas and, disinfection tools and in the delousing. Speaker 0: Now let's be perfectly clear about what doctor Pieper is saying. I ask him, why is the residue count high in the delousing chambers but low in the homicidal ones? And he answers because the delousing chambers were used, quote, day and night, whereas the homicidal ones were used, quote, about 20:30 minutes during 24 hours, which would account for roughly one gassing a day. Now not only does this contradict the eyewitness testimonies, which speak of repeated homicidal homicidal gassings going on day night, but doctor Pieper also manages to contradict himself. Because later on in the interview, I asked him how many groups of people a day would be gassed, and he too speaks of repeated gassings. How many groups of people every day were gassed in cream of 2 and 3? Do you know? Speaker 3: It's, difficult to say because there were periods when gas chambers were used today. And and several actions repeated, gassing, burn, gassing, burn, and so on. Speaker 0: And what about the gas itself? We are shown many canisters of Ziclon B gas as proof of the final solution. But apart from delousing, which everyone agrees on, and homicidal gassings, which the Auschwitz officials maintain, did the gas have any other uses? Speaker 3: But also, Tom, the disinfection of the buildings. So there was such a Speaker 0: With a routine for the buildings to be disinfected. Speaker 3: Not time to time. Such agents will cut it out to remove the analysis. Speaker 0: Now let's recap again. We now know that Zyklon D gas was used to delauce clothes, to disinfect buildings. And if you'll remember the calculations of holocaust supporter Jean Claude Presac, over 95% was used for disinfection with only 5% or less used for homicide. This seems like a great amount of effort on the part of the Germans to preserve the health of people who were meant to be exterminated. And I think at this point, we can move on. We return now to our job of trying to decide between the two alternate views of the reconstructed gas chamber. Is it a fake or a faithful reconstruction? One very important question is this, can we trust the Soviets to have faithfully reconstructed the gas chamber? Since there is no wartime proof of there ever having been 4 holes in the ceiling or of any gas chamber usage. We literally have to take the Soviets and Poles at their word that they simply returned the four holes to where they had originally been and reconstructed, instead of fabricated, a gas chamber. If we're going to try to establish Soviet intent, we need to look at what precedent there is concerning Soviet truthfulness regarding the holocaust story. Do the Soviets have a history of fabricating Holocaust evidence or using deception to support the concept? Well, as we've already shown, the Soviets quite brazenly exaggerated the figures of dead at Auschwitz by at least 4 times. But was this simply a well intentioned error on their part? We are told in the Auschwitz guidebook and also by other sources that the reason it was so difficult to ascertain the number of victims in Auschwitz was because the Nazis had destroyed the appropriate records. This concept was also repeated to me by doctor Pieper. Who initially came up with the figure of 4,000,000 people dying in Auschwitz? This was, estimating made by some of its Speaker 3: documents of the camp. Speaker 0: But in fact, the Auschwitz camp death records were held by the Soviets, not released until 1989. These documents were not destroyed by the Nazis. I think we can assume that during all those years the Soviets were handing out their exaggerated death figures, they knew they had these books in their possession. We can also look at discredited charges made by the Soviets and supported by the other allies at the Nuremberg trial. The Soviets claimed that there were steam chambers for killing inmates at the Treblinka camp in Poland. Now, of course, that claim has been quietly dropped. Also dropped are the claims of electro chambers. Most interestingly, we have the Soviets at Nuremberg claiming that it was the Nazis, not the Soviets, who murdered the thousands of Polish officers in the infamous Katyn Forest Massacre. These days, of course, the Soviets have admitted that they are the ones responsible and most legitimate historians knew this all along. But at Nuremberg, the Soviets claimed that the Nazis bribed and threatened people to falsely blame the Soviets. The now discredited atrocity stories of Nazi created shrunken heads and human skin lampshades were also exhibited as fact. And in an almost inconceivable charge, it was claimed that the Nazis exterminated Jews with an atomic bomb. Also presented as fact was the story that the Nazis made soap from the bodies of Jews. Let's examine this one a little more closely. Now the Soviets actually submitted supposed Jewish soap at the Nuremberg trial. But today, Holocaust scholars like Raoul Hilberg, Yehuda Bauer, and Deborah Lipstadt agree that these accusations are groundless. In a Los Angeles Times editorial from 1981, Deborah Lipstadt is quoted as saying, the fact is that the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews or for that matter, anyone else for the production of soap. The soap rumor was prevalent both during and after the war. It may have had its origin in the cadaver factory atrocity story that came out of World War 1. The soap rumor was thoroughly investigated after the war and proved to be untrue. The questions this raises are numerous. If the claim is false, then that means the Soviets were not being truthful about that hunk of soap they exhibited as evidence. And all the Nuremberg transcripts dealing with human soap are wrong. But my question is, when were these charges thoroughly investigated as she says? This is just another case of a holocaust expert trying to make us believe that holocaust experts know what they're talking about and are straight about what did and didn't happen, which they are not. To prove my point, I submit the fact that doctor Pieper still believes in the human soap story. Speaker 3: There were such, attempts of using this, human flesh for for this of soap and acid concentration can't, shoot home behind the desk. Speaker 0: So that that where that was where Speaker 3: it was done. So we're we made such attempts. Speaker 0: Apparently, some war propagandas never seem to die. Indeed, the specter of fraudulent holocaust evidence from the Soviets has reared its head in more current events, like the prosecution of Ukrainian American, John Demyanuk, whose incredibly flawed war crimes conviction was based in part on faulty Soviet evidence. And speaking of fraudulent evidence, some holocaust experts seem to have difficulty explaining the difference between what's fraudulent and what's real. We return briefly to Jean Claude Pressack's book on Auschwitz, a book meant to refute revisionists. Here he shows us a picture of a gas tight door from a delousing room which he claims the Soviets falsely represented to be from a homicidal gas chamber. Yet several pages later, he shows us a door which he claims is a genuine homicidal gas chamber door because of the metal hemispherical grid protecting the peephole. Presac offers this door as a proof that homicidal gassings occurred, but there is just one unanswered question. How does Presac know that this door too isn't a Soviet put on? If we admit that the Soviets went around misrepresenting and reconstructing things, how can we tell a difference between what's real and what's not? In the case of that supposedly genuine door with a metal grid over the peephole, I asked doctor Pieper if I could see it for myself. In Presak's book, he has a picture of a gas type door with a metal grid around the peephole. Is that still around any place? Does that still exist? Speaker 3: It is in a one of the room of crematorium. Yeah. Speaker 0: Crematorium 1? It's in crematorium. Is it possible for me to see that? Speaker 3: You may go to the director and director in order to offer you. This PC Speaker 0: I very much like to see that. Well, guess what? After the interview, we went to the director's office, got the keys, and explored every room in crematorium 1, and no homicidal gas chamber door with a metal grid over the peephole. No one knew where it went. I guess it simply vanished like magic. So, in answer to our question about precedent regarding Soviet trustworthiness, I think we've established that we can't really accept anything on faith because evidence certified as real 1 year might be considered fake the next. Evidence you are told is genuine can, in fact, be a so called Reconstruction. And if the holocaust experts themselves can't agree on what's real and what's not, then surely they prove themselves hypocrites when they insist that homicidal gassings cannot be questioned. With all this talk about Soviet deception, I think it's necessary to put this matter in its proper historical perspective. You see, we live in a time now when the old Soviet Union has fallen apart, and it's now okay for both Liberals and Conservatives, as well as everybody else, to speak ill of the dear departed Communist state. But it was not always that way. During World War 2, the Soviets were more than just a military ally. Their anti Nazi propaganda was readily accepted by the other allies because it served all of their purposes. It has to be understood that Russia's communists and Germany's fascists had had a long running propaganda battle, both before the Hitler Stalin Non Aggression Pact and, of course, after with the outbreak of war. Both Stalin and Hitler were men capable of and quite adept at propaganda. Yet the vestiges of our acceptance of Soviet propaganda still linger to this day. For example, when we see an anti communist German poster, we most likely immediately dismiss it as paranoid Nazi anti communist propaganda. Yet, are we so conditioned to dismiss a similar Soviet work as paranoid anti fascist propaganda? The point is that we have a hard time realizing that Stalin's anti German propaganda was just as virulent as Hitler's anti Soviet propaganda. And that, as the victors, the Soviets got to commit their propaganda to the history books as fact. But all charges and counter charges made during World War 2 must be reexamined with the 2020 hindsight we now have, the knowledge of Stalin's despotism, and the KGB's history of misinformation and deception. And this reexamination must include the charges of genocide made against the Nazis, especially considering that for Auschwitz, as well as the other camps in Poland, Majdanek, Belzec, Chelmno, Treblinka, and Sobibor, we've had to rely on the Soviets for most of our information. And if the Soviets exaggerated the number of dead at Auschwitz, Who's to say they didn't also do it at the other camps? Why would they exaggerate Auschwitz by 4 times and then be brutally honest about Treblinka? However, lest I appear to be unfair, it should be added that our own army and propaganda department did not sit idly by and let the Soviets After the war, it was claimed at the Dachau camp that people were gassed. In fact, the army produced several propaganda films supporting that notion. Speaker 4: Hanging in orderly rows were the clothes of prisoners who had been suffocated in a lethal gas chamber. They had been persuaded to remove their clothing under the pretext of taking a shower for which towels and soap were provided. Speaker 0: Yet now it is no longer claimed that anyone ever died in a Dachau gas chamber. This is a clear case of wartime propaganda. It should also be added in fairness that it was the British who obtained by torture the confession of Rudolf Hoss commandant to Auschwitz before turning him over to the Soviets and Poles. This has been confirmed in a book published in 1983 titled Legions of Death, which contains the recollections of British Sergeant Bernard Clark who brags about having tortured Hurst to get a confession out of him and of threatening his family. Which brings us back to Auschwitz. It was here, behind the building we've talked so much about, the supposed gas chamber, that Hurst was hanged for running an extermination camp. But can we say now that that was a just sentence, with the main evidence being a confession obtained by torture and a reconstructed air raid shelter? Perhaps you will answer that the sentence was still a just one because of the fact that he indeed ran an internment camp where people did die in large numbers from disease and malnutrition. But then, what should have been done with the American troops who ran the internment camps we had in the United States for the Japanese? Or more appropriately, to General Eisenhower and his troops who ran post war POW camps for the Germans in which anywhere from 100 of 1000 to over a 1000000 Germans died also because of disease and malnutrition. Should they have been hanged too? When does war end and war crimes begin? These questions have no easy answers, and this debate is far from over.

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David Cole & Ernst Zündel investigate Auschwitz. Did you know Auschwitz has a pool? Did you know the holes/zyklon B induction vents on top of the gas chamber are not original? They were actually built AFTER the liberation. Keep in mind David Cole is a Jewish man himself. I can actually say, I don't believe much of The Holocaust. Bookmark & share.

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In this video, Aaron Sundal, president of Samista Publishers, shares his experience distributing a controversial booklet called "Did 6,000,000 Really Die?" and the legal battles he faced in Canada for promoting Holocaust denial. Sundal recounts his friendship with David Cole, a young Jewish man who visited Auschwitz to investigate the gas chambers. They explore various locations in Auschwitz, including the swimming pool, the wall of death, and the alleged gas chamber. Sundal questions the authenticity of the gas chamber and highlights inconsistencies in the official narrative. He also mentions admissions made by Dr. Piper, the director of the Auschwitz archives, regarding reconstructions and the use of Zyklon B. David Cole, the speaker, discusses his findings during his visit to Auschwitz as a Jewish Holocaust revisionist. He reveals that the gas chamber in Auschwitz I is a reconstruction, contradicting the official narrative. Cole also mentions the lack of evidence for gas chambers and the manipulation of historical facts by Soviet and Polish authorities. He emphasizes the importance of free speech and open dialogue, expressing his support for Ernst Zundel, a German nationalist and Holocaust revisionist. Despite facing backlash from friends and family, Cole remains committed to seeking the truth and promoting fairness.
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Speaker 0: My name is Aaron Sundal. I'm president of Samista Publishers in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I became known in the world for having some pretty famous trials in the country of Canada and in the city of Toronto Regarding a publication which I had put out called, did 6,000,000 really die? A small 32 page booklet, 8 and a half by 11 inches in size, or a 4 in European size, and not written by myself, but written by an English author in 1974. I first saw the publication in the late seventies and decided to put it out in mass in Canada for mass distribution free of charge to all members of parliament, various ministers in different provinces, religious leaders, community leaders, and so on, naturally also all the media people and to many lawyers. And I put it out as a public service free of charge. I put an introduction of 2 pages in the beginning of the booklet and an afterthought in the end. The rest of the booklet was the way it was written by the British author. I was not permitted by the publisher in England to change one single word of the actual booklet. The booklet had been published in 18 languages around the world and had been distributed all over Europe, Eastern Europe, Central Europe, Western Europe, Canada, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. In the Republic of South Africa, the booklet ran for the first time into a problem because some Jewish parliamentarians took umbridge and they published a rebuttal called apparently, which was not known to me at the time when I published it, it came out during my trial and I published a little rebuttal booklet called 6,000,000 Did Die by Sussmann. And this booklet of course was introduced later on in my second trial in Toronto. However, naturally, because of these 10 years of litigation up and down through every level of court in Canada from preliminary hearings to finally the supreme court, and I was recharged the 1st 2nd time once again through appeal courts ending up in front of the supreme court again. And finally, on the 27th August 1992, the supreme court in Canada and off Canada declared the law under which I was charged section 177 of the Criminal Court of Canada false news statute as being unconstitutional, which meant I'd been dragged for 9 years through the courts of Canada basically for merely practicing my constitutional rights. And so that brought me, of course, to the attention to all kinds of people, and amongst these people was a young Jewish fellow from California in the United States. He had heard about me through another revisionist called David McAlvin who ran a newsletter and befriended this young Jewish guy. These two men collaborated and thus, it came to be that David Cole, 21 years old, saw quite a number of my videotapes, of my court cases, my being beaten, spat at, punched, my house being bombed in Toronto during these trials and tribulations. And apparently he was quite impressed by what he saw. Then he was introduced to a colored man called Montel Williams under Montel Williams Show where he and a fellow called Mark Webber, a director of the Institute For Historical Review, appeared as a counterpoint to a number of so called holocaust survivors, elderly Jews who represented the normal standard holocaust version, and here was the young Jew and the middle aged American scholar, trying to refute the time worn testimony of these refugees from Europe. When I heard about this, I asked that somebody should send me a copy. I watched in fascination how this young fellow stood up against his Jewish elders in this TV show, and, I liked what I saw. I thought this kid, he could be my son after all, had spunk. And so I contacted him, and we kind of, got along very quickly. I found him to be an interesting man, and he told me that he was planning to go to Auschwitz to improve on many of the videos that he had seen out of my Sam Isdal production house. I thought that was pretty neat that a Jew would improve on this German gentile's debunking of Auschwitz that that really appealed to me. And, I couldn't help but think and reflect on my fate, on my fate that I should actually have inspired a young Jewish fellow to go and improve on my revisionism of Auschwitz. And, so sure enough, he managed to link up with a number of other people. One of them was an American revisionist called Bradley Smith. And they found the money and the sponsors and sure enough, David Cole, the young fellow with a cameraperson, a lady, went to Auschwitz and started to improve on the Sammasterad productions. And he came away with some pretty incredible interviews with the director of the archives in Auschwitz. And, I had just been going through the legal processes in Canada. I had been denied a passport for some time. I couldn't travel, then I had travel restrictions because of my court cases, just like I had a gag order and I couldn't speak out about these topics of the Holocaust. Anyways, with my supreme court victory also came miraculously a new passport from the German government. And I informed David Cole that now I had a passport, I could travel to Europe, and, to keep me informed what his research and his on ground investigation of Auschwitz was producing. No sooner had I landed in Europe, I had to speak in Antwerp for another revisionist conference, David Irving, the famous British historian, had asked me to fly to London to address a British group of historians and revisionists, he also was speaking there, so I had a pretty tight schedule. But anyways, in Brussels, I called David Cole in Krakow in Poland, and he was very excited in a telephone telling me that he had some fantastic admissions from the director of the archives in Auschwitz that many changes had been made after the war in those various installations, especially Kremer won the alleged gas chamber in Auschwitz proper, the main camp in Auschwitz. Well, that was such terrific news for me that I said to him, listen, I'm gonna drop everything and I'm gonna join you in Poland because I I I want you to explain to me what you found in Auschwitz. And so I rented the car and, with a friend, drove to first, to, Krakow. And close to Krakow is where these camps are located. And, sure enough, I met him in the holiday inn, the only holiday inn in all of Poland in one late evening, and, I had never met him before, just seen him on the Montel William show and, naturally spotted him when he came into dining room and we greeted each other almost like long lost friends and I couldn't help but reflect on this situation that here I was a kind of middle aged German in this very youthful almost teenage looking young Jewish man who had just returned from one of his filming investigations of 1 of the Auschwitz camps. And so we sat down Matt's strategy for the next day. He told me excitedly over supper all the admissions that he had made on videotape from the director of the Auschwitz archives, admissions which I had already been informed of by Dittlievelder of Sweden and doctor Robert Forrester of France. The most important source of information was without any doubt doctor Robert Forisson, who as far back as 1979, during the first conference of the Institute For Historical Review in Los Angeles, had told me about the importance of the chemical and technical arguments to solve the Auschwitz riddle. It was doctor Faurisson who explained to me the importance of finding an American gas chamber expert who could make scientific comparisons between American gas chamber construction and operations and the alleged German methods and technology used in Auschwitz. It was doctor Faurisson who had found the negatives of the plans for the Auschwitz morgues in crematoria with their original German language descriptions still in place. There is no doubt that all of those who have studied the Auschwitz controversy have basically built on Doctor. Forrester's pioneering research. I have, Fred Leuchter has and so does David Gold. This film only confirms even the startling admissions made by doctor Franciszek Pieper, but doctor Foresan had already rung out of other Auschwitz officials as far back as the late seventies when he interrogated them about what was or real and original and what was reconstooled or reconstructed or rebuilt after the war. The big difference with David Cole is he did his interrogation with a video camera running and captured the admission on videotape. David Cole last confirms doctor Forrest's and did leapfelterous earlier findings. And what you're going to see is partly what David Cole and I filmed in Auschwitz. And since he had been there several days before me filming these sites already and had studied it intently for a number of years, I let him, who had already on the ground experience, guide me since my information about Auschwitz basically came through my witnesses, through maps, the study of documents and basically was more or less theoretical. And so you're about to see David Cole, myself in front of the entrance gate Yes. Say the word. Auschwitz at the spot where prisoners would normally arrive. Okay, David Cole. First of all, we say first, Scott, we say, we greet you in Auschwitz together. Yes. Indeed. No. I think quite seriously, I'm quite glad to be here with you. We both made this trip to hopefully get a new start in German Jewish relations of the new generation, and I'm certainly honored and glad to be here with you and to do this video. And hopefully, we can make the first steps amongst the new generation of German and Jews to kind of put Auchits behind us truthfully, not through not through pointing fingers at one another as to who did what and so on. You know, we'll we'll go and have a look at the sites together. Mhmm. And since you have spent already a number of days here, you can tell me all the tremendous discoveries that you have made with the help of the officials in Auschwitz. Maybe you can fill us in. You have been here for how many days? Speaker 1: We have been here now, for approximately 5 days. We have spent 3 days at Auschwitz, both here at Auschwitz 1 and at Auschwitz Birkenau. We have been not only looking around on our own, but we have taken the official tour. We had a very friendly tour guide who tried her best to answer our questions, but found them a little too taxing for the, spiel that she was given to memorize. So she brought in the supervisor of tours who pointed things out that she could not answer. The reconstructions at Prima 1, for example, we, we were able to get her to specifically point to what they were. And she ended up contradicting much of what we heard as far as the official torch spiel is. And then the day after that, we had an interview with doctor Piper, in his office at, where the staff has their offices down. Speaker 0: Doctor Piper's function at this museum is well, is he the director? Speaker 1: Yeah. He he is, the director. He was the director. I believe right now he is in charge of the archives. I see. Uh-huh. His, title was written in Polish outside his door. We, Yeah. We took it down, and he also introduces himself with his title on the tape. Speaker 0: I see. Speaker 1: We spend some time with him, about an hour having him tell us all of the various things that have been reconstructed. Mhmm. We tried to ask questions in a way that would not alienate him Right. Where he would not turn quiet all of a sudden. We wanted to open him up. It's very difficult to get any truthful answers about anything that happened here. So we approached him from the point of view of a Jew speaking to another Jew. We were very fortunate in that he opened up to us. He told us more than we thought we would know. He just spoke to us about all of the reconstructions. We were able to ask him many pointed questions about the PRESSAC report. And, he unfortunately affirmed a lot of the propaganda such as, Jews being turned into soap by the Nazis. Speaker 0: He still insists on that. Speaker 1: He still insists on that. Gotcha. He hasn't learned from the Jewish groups who now claim that that never happened. It shows the power of the propaganda to stay with people even after it has been proven not to be true. Speaker 0: So he obviously maybe hasn't known about the revelations that he made in the Jerusalem Post, for instance, over the. Speaker 1: Either he doesn't know or he is so, attached to it that he cannot help but speak of it to another Jew. The horrible things that the Nazis did here. About that. But certainly, he confirmed to us that that he believed it was done. Right. And he spoke about it as fact, not as something that is some some people say did happen and some people Speaker 0: say did. Or whatever. Yeah. He he treated it as a historical fact. Yeah. Now, so this is the entrance to the camp proper here. And, behind us in this building, if I understand correctly, they used to have the bordello. Speaker 1: Yeah. Right now, it's been turned into a building for archives. They have remodeled the interior of all of the barracks except for 1, which they say they have preserved in its natural state. The rest of these barracks have been turned into museums. 1 is a, Jewish exhibition. There is a stone outside from Chaim Herzog from Israel. Many of these buildings are presently used as offices. I see. Many of these buildings are presently used as offices Speaker 0: I see. Speaker 1: For both for the staff, mainly. Speaker 0: From your from your research in this, basically, what happened is the people would be coming through here, through this path, and then the would be the barrier would be down. And, what, German guards would be in this building over here? Speaker 1: Yeah. German guards would be in this building, end up looking down from that, tower. From the Speaker 0: top there from the tower. Yeah. That's what that means. Speaker 1: And they would, they claim that this building was also used by as, the camp censors office to censor mail. Mail would pass through this building on its way either to the inmates or from the inmates. Right. Of course, everything in the main buildings that that we entered through has been completely redone. It is now the, tour guide, office information center, and they show films in there as well. Speaker 0: Right. Now, David, where do we go from the entrance here? Where will you take Speaker 1: us? Well, we'll go through the entrance like an inmate would. We'll show you briefly where the inmates lived and in what condition, and then we will walk up towards where the camp officials were and, then finally end up at Krima 1, the supposed gas chamber. Speaker 0: David Cole now decided to give me, so to speak, the guided tour of Auschwitz. And, we went through the same gate above which we could read, the same gate that every inmate in Auschwitz went through and that you see in every Hollywood movie. We were hardly in the camp inside the gate when on the right hand side, we came upon this rather substantial, quite modern looking building, which was the Auschwitz kitchen with 12 chimneys. And, I was told by David that this kitchen also had a diet section, a diet section for inmates which could not eat the regular camp food. And he showed to me a wall on the side of the kitchen building, and there was this huge black and white photograph, obviously an old photograph, World War 2 vintage, and it showed an orchestra playing against the backdrop of the very building that we were standing in front of, which means that the photograph was hanging exactly in the same spot where the orchestra during the 2nd World War was playing to those inmates. And he explained to me that this was an orchestra made up of inmates who played and entertained other inmates who went to the kitchen to pick up their food and you could see in this photograph people standing around watching and listening. Now I was particularly fascinated by this because both the judges and the prosecutors in my 2 court cases in Canada thought and even mentioned or alluded to the fact that they didn't believe that there was such a thing as an orchestra playing for the inmates in that camp. So I was quite glad to see it and I was even more glad that this young Jewish fellow was able to point it out to me on camera. And once we had filmed that, we went down a little street and turned to the left and walk between rows of rather substantial buildings, 2 story tall buildings made of brick, typical European type structures with tile roofs on the top, not tar paper shacks, the way Hollywood usually likes to portray Auschwitz as kind of a flimsy construction and so on. And in the end, towards the end of these raw buildings, I saw a swimming pool and surrounded by nice grass and so on. And David pointed out, yes, this was indeed the Auschwitz swimming pool which is again something that was a point of even derision and laughter during my trial, especially my first trial when the Swedish revisionist Didi Veldora, who had photographed, measured and filmed and even made close-up shots of the, the towers and the starting blocks and so on at this particular swimming pool was not allowed to show these photographs as evidence. So David, what are we seeing? Speaker 1: Well, what we're looking at now is the swimming pool. It has been restored to its original state. The liebefelder has slides of it looking this way. In 1987, when David McCalden came here, it was undergoing some kind of reconstruction. We actually feared at that time it might be lost. They might either bury it or try to make it seem like a burning pit. Right. But in a somewhat unique stroke of honesty for the Poles who run this place, they have restored it perfectly as it was. Yeah. Now they do not put this on the regular tour. If you sign up and take the tour, you don't come out here. You don't ever see the swimming pool. If you ask to see it as we did and if you ask to know its function, you're told either, you get two answers sometimes, either that it was a swimming pool for the SS men or the swimming pool for preferred inmates, inmates, perhaps Kapo's inmates who helped the, Nazis in some way. However, this is in the inmates' part of the, barracks. The SS houses are way at the other end of the camp. If the SS men were to have a swimming pool, most likely it would not be in the middle of the inmates' barracks, but would be further out where the SS men, do not have to mingle with the inmates or swim while the inmates are staring at them with with hatred and envy and and loathing. Speaker 0: Wasn't there a rule that as as men only could enter the camp itself, unofficial business? Speaker 1: Yeah. The inmates were allowed pretty much free reign around here. And because it's right in the middle of their barracks, it is very hard to believe that it was only for certain preferred inmates. Carlos Porter has published pictures of inmates sitting in front of the pool. Speaker 0: Of this Speaker 1: pool? Of this pool. Yeah. With the ladder in the back. In the Speaker 0: back. Speaker 1: The larger ladder. Yeah. And, they look quite happy. They're wearing their swimming trunks and, many people don't believe that there would be a pool here. But it is also interesting to note that only 3 barracks down is the back of the wall of death, the wall where supposedly 20,000 people or more were shot up against. But this is clearly, an area for the inmates' enjoyment. You have benches lining this area. They can rest here. They can recuperate. The hospital is 1 bara cup that way. If they were ill, if they are recuperating, they can sit here. They can, swim in the pool. And the to have constant, not only shooting, but, of course, the impassioned cries of men about to be killed or as they're dying would really not mix with the, the way this place appears to have been built. The wall of death would have been more suited on the outskirts of this camp, because also it is no good for the inmates morale if they are living right among, the wall where they are being shot one after the other. Another important thing to note when you look at this pool, as you can see in the distance, there are 3 starting blocks, which look like they might have been used for swimming races. Contests. Contests. This is not just a hole hastily dug. You can see there is a very nice fixture that perhaps at one time, water came out of the, mouth of that, like a speck. There is a higher diving board, and then we have blocks starting blocks here. You can imagine the inmates having races. One can imagine, people being able to come here and relax after working. But it doesn't really, mix with the concept of this as a death machine. This camp being a place where people come in and they die, and they know they're gonna die. Speaker 0: Yeah. I see here there are 3 steps going up here, and then there is, a kind of a a flat concrete slab here, which would indicate that maybe was a diving board, a lower diving board here, and the higher diving board with a long ladder over there because it's the same kind of configuration. Yeah. Speaker 1: Very clearly, there had been a diving board here. Perhaps it had been made of wood, and it is not here any any longer. A lot of things have been stripped both here and at Birkenau. Speaker 0: You you saw this on the aerial photo? Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. The swimming pool is definitely here. And people had been talking about the pool before, McCalden came in 87 and got the pictures of it in its reconstructing state. Speaker 0: Now Carlos Porter's photo of the inmates are Jewish inmates, or are they Luxembourgish? You know, the the Mhmm. These are from Luxembourg. Speaker 1: I would only be guessing. So, I utilizing on those at the time. I wouldn't wanna say one way or the other, but it shows that the pool was in use. Uh-huh. It shows that there was, that this was not just some kind of trapping to fool the world to believe that Auschwitz was humane when in reality people were dying here. Speaker 0: Good. And so now what we'll do is go down to the wall of death. Have a Speaker 1: look at that. Sure. Definitely. Speaker 0: The importance of examining the surface and the condition of this wall is simply that 20,000 people are supposed to have ended their lives in front of this wall. And so when a firing squad using high powered rifles shoot at a person or execute a person, frequently they miss. Or a bullet of such powerful rifles just goes clean through the target and would have had to damage the wall. Speaker 1: Basically, it's at the point where you can say anything cruel about the Germans and people will believe it. You don't even have to have a sense of continuity. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 1: If it's cruel, if it shows inhumanity, then you can foist it on the Germans and reality doesn't Speaker 0: just been their critical faculties for the moment here. So we are looking at the back part then of what is on the other side. They had they had this gray thing. They'll be able to have a look at it in a while. But so if somebody had been shot, the bullet would have been flying through here after after 2 or 3 rounds I've had. Speaker 1: After 20,000 people being shot there, the wall would have been in a terrible state. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 1: But you can see fairly clearly from the join, of the wall to the barracks that, it doesn't exactly look like a reconstruction. Speaker 0: But it's Same old type brick, the cement looks about as gray in the cracks as it does in Speaker 1: the others. Speaker 0: And there's certainly no shrapnel or cracks in the actual stones. They look all in in perfect shape. I mean, it's a little rough in the construction like most of the stuff here at Auschwitz. It's not West European type quality, but certainly, there are no cracked bricks here. Speaker 1: It would be, prudent to say that perhaps they are calling this a reconstruction now so as to explain the absence of bullet holes and shrapnel. Yeah. But it still doesn't explain away the fact that right here on the other side of the wall of death, you have a bench. You have part of the area where prisoners who were convalescing would be Yes. Yeah. Walking and and sitting. And bullets would be flying here, quite frequently. And the the constant sound, the bullet hole, the bullets, as the guns are fired, the screaming of the men as they're dying. Up there, you have the gynecological center in the building where women would give birth. It would be hard to imagine they would put that, so near to a place of constant death Speaker 0: of executions. Yeah. And this boarded up thing that looks like a jail, then that is the in in camp jail. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 0: So you could actually be in Auschwitz in the camp and go to jail inside the camp. Speaker 1: It it it's an interesting thought because it does bring to mind that the inmates, by and large, seem to be have been allowed to walk around, to wander around. Because, if all of Auschwitz was not a jail, then, they would need a jail in it like they have now. Exactly. Speaker 0: To deprive somebody of the freedom to walk away. Speaker 1: Exactly. If Auschwitz was already a center of deprivation and, imprisonment, then why need a prison in it? Exactly. If you've already if you're already doing these horrible things to them, and even the cells, as we will see, even the cells in that jail all have heaters in them, including the cell that was, represented to us as being the suffocation cell where people would be put in and air could be closed off. But in it, there's a toilet and there is a heater. It's odd to think that they would wanna make someone comfortable when the point of putting them in there would be to suffocate them to death. It shows that even in the prisons, the Nazis still had a sense of not being barbaric. And even certainly, that is a prison and, we don't say that it's anything other than that. But even in the prison, there were accommodations made for the prisoners. It just doesn't jibe with the concept of this as a death machine. Actually, it's still there. The the tanks are there at the point. You can see where the shower on the. There were heating facilities in the room, but they appear to be either restoring it or cleaning it. I wanted to get through to see how it looks. 1 is going. Yes. Speaker 0: So, David, explain to us what are we seeing here. Speaker 1: Well, this is the other side of the wall of death. I believe they claim that even though this, is a reconstruction, this, brown thing, I'm not sure what material this is made of. Speaker 0: It looks like wood wood, with cement, like wood chip. Speaker 1: Yeah. I know that they claim this is a reconstruction, but of course, you can see that there are no bullet marks in it. There are drawings that prisoners have made of the wall of death. There are no pictures, of course. And then that's a kind of an interesting thing because we know that there are pictures taken other places where the Nazis had, executed people. I have to execute that. And yet, with 20 1,000 executions going on at the wall of death, you think that there there would be just 1 or 2 pictures. It's something that the Nazis, did not seem to mind recording what did happen. And, of course, we've never found any pictures or recordings of gas chambers and, the wall might be a reconstruction although I theorize that the brick is old enough and looks to be about the same age and has weathered the same as the brick on barracks, that if it is a reconstruction it had to have been built very early after the liberation of the camp, perhaps by Soviet, officers. Now this has become very much of a shrine, the groups who come here are sometimes Jewish, sometimes Catholic and they leave their mark, depending upon what kind of, religious symbols they are into. We have seen in the past couple of days a lot of Israeli flags planted on this wall, which don't seem to be around right now. I suppose they have somebody who clears away the dead flowers and brings, just makes it presentable. Speaker 0: Here I see in Polish, it says, which means, somebody from Strasburg. And then it says, which means French, a French group, Speaker 1: was here in Poland. We've been hearing people speaking in all various languages, including French. Speaker 0: Yeah. What what are we looking at here against either side of this narrow cul de sac? What is this? Is that the gynecological thing at the point? Speaker 1: Yeah. Over to our right, we see, what was definitely a medical building. They claim that hideous sterilization experiments were carried out on Polish, and Jewish women. It's definitely a medical building inside. It is somewhat in its original shape. There were adequate toilet facilities and, shower rooms. It's unclear though as to whether the wood that's covering the windows is original or not. It's interesting to note that, if in fact this building was a place of torture, where hideous torturous experiments were carried out on prisoners, why would they mind hiding the executions from those prisoners? I mean, obviously, the the women in this building would would have an idea how horrible the camp is. Why would it be wrong for them to see the executions? What would they be hiding from someone undergoing such horrible experiments? I think that they probably these windows were originally like the other windows, maybe without the bars because this was not a prison, this was just a medical building. They're restoring it right now and we had gotten some footage earlier inside of the restoration process. We just wanna make sure that they restored honestly and they don't add any bits and pieces or cover up things that existed. Speaker 0: And, David, this building across then from the guy gynecological department with the bar with the bars on here, that's the Auschwitz jail. Speaker 1: Yeah. Here we see a side of the prison inside of Auschwitz. There are cells in the basement down below. There are cells and also administrative offices in the 1st floor, and cells up above. Once again, as as I pointed out, that even the, cells in the basement have heaters and toilets in them. Speaker 0: And what are these strange cement enclosures that we see here? Do you think anybody would say anything about this? Speaker 1: It might be if it's original because the cells in the basement were probably reserved for the worst offenders, I would assume. And it might, while still allowing ventilation and air in a certain amount of sunlight, it makes the cells somewhat more unpleasant. But also they could have been added after the war. Because once again, the fear the myth is that the people were brought here and shot 20,000 or more of them, and that the prisoners in the cells could hear the shots but not see it. And in some way, that would add to their terror. But yet the cells further back there, of course, even if those concrete bunkers weren't there, they still couldn't see what was going on because oftentimes the windows are further up. Right. Speaker 0: Right. Now have you been inside the the jail cells? Speaker 1: An important thing to point out is in the basement of that building, they claim that the first experimental gassings took place. In this building? In this building right here. They claim that 600 Soviet POWs and 200 and 50 ill inmates Speaker 0: I see. Speaker 1: Totaling 850 people were crammed into the basement Uh-huh. Of this building. And the Zyklon B was then tossed into the room before they closed the door on the inmates. I see. Now that presents several problems, of course. The Zyklon B would not disperse adequately. The inmates in the farthest ends, would have ample time to attempt to break the windows that were in there to get out in some way. They say that the gassing lasted for, I believe, 2 days, because of improper ventilation. It took a long time, they said, to ventilate this building. And they later decided on CRIMA 1 Right. After their attempt here. Now we've taken samples from the wall in the basement, and we will see if they register Right. Inappropriate. Speaker 0: What would have happened? Was that always a jail here? And what would have happened to the ordinary jail inmates while the gassing was going on for 2 days? Speaker 1: We remember that in each of the cells there are pipes, there are toilets, the gas could have gotten into the pipes, The gas might have come up through the floor. There is no peephole in the door, so there was no way for the, the Nazis to look in and see how the progress of the, dying in the dying inmates was coming. Plus there are light fixtures in there that, might have set off the Zyklon b. Speaker 0: Right. Right. Speaker 1: Right. And, it's not a very, because of all of the windows, because each cell had windows, they claimed that the windows were blocked with sand. But because the windows are in a downward incline, if the glass had been broken the sand would simply have funneled into the cell and thus no longer served adequately as a buffer. Speaker 0: David Cole explained to me, very movingly the religious implications and the exploitation of the religious feelings of many of these tourists that were coming to this execution or death wall. Many of them would bring flickering candles and place them in front of the wall. Others again would quietly kneel down, cross themselves, say asylum prayer, frequently priests or nuns quite disturbed how blatantly the religiosity of these people were brought to this wall. They're really exploited. And since he naturally had examined the wall and knew what the wall did not signify, he was very upset by that. Mhmm. So can we go into this building? Sure. Yeah. Definitely. Maybe we'll do that as the next step. Good. That is the chamber that is mentioned in the Hearst affidavit. Am I not correct? Mhmm. Yes. Right. That's what he says with the the the Soviet prisoners. Speaker 1: Yeah. And the Hyperconfirm that to us that it's the same one Hirsch mentions. Speaker 0: I see. Uh-huh. Speaker 1: Now Speaker 0: this Where where excuse me. Where could they possibly have put 600 or 800 people in here? You mean in this narrow Speaker 1: 850 people altogether crammed, I suppose, from one end to the other. In this enclosure here. I do not know if they opened the cell doors and also let them. But you can see that this room is very much like a maze. The Zyklon B gas could very well have been blocked by piles of bodies, and prevented from getting around the corners to I mean, when you've got such a high concentration of people in a small area like this, then that the doorway that we just came in through is where they claim to have they threw the pellets in. Speaker 0: And is that door closable? Was that closed? Speaker 1: The door is is closable, but it is not a heavy gas type door like we see in the Dalhousie Ruins. Speaker 0: Now could they would have not seen any of the inmates whether they had Impossible. Speaker 1: Even if they had a peephole, all they could see would be the walls there. They could not possibly see from side to side. Now you can see that there are pipes. There are heating fixtures. If this building was filled up with a deadly gas, it would be very dangerous because there were people, both inmates and SS men, who were constantly in this building on the next floor. Now we've taken samples. Right here is one place. Right here again and then 2 areas in back of where, and then we've taken control samples from the from original looking areas on the first floor. This is one of the few blocks that they say is preserved in its original state. So we figure it wouldn't be worth it taking samples from the museum blocks because they have been they have had new floors put in there. But we wanted to get a control sample because Piper admitted to us it was common standard practice to fumigate the buildings with Zyklon B. Speaker 0: I see. Speaker 1: This could possibly account for a small trace and we wanted to make sure that if a small trace existed here it would also exist on the first floor. Speaker 0: Now as we are looking here, David, there are light fixtures in here, and there are light switches in here. And, I don't know. I'm not experienced enough about knowing whether these are these explosion proof light fixtures or whether they are just ordinary light fixtures. Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they're certainly not very stable Yeah. And they could easily have been cracked and broken Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1: By people scrambling to get away Sure. From noxious gas. Another thing to keep in mind is that this is the only part of this basement that is not heated, at least not presently, and it's also underground. The cyclone B would of course have to be heated in some way to release the gas from the crystals. And it doesn't look like they made any provisions to do that. And of course, quite the obvious there is no blue staining on the wall. And, Speaker 0: and what Fred Leuchter said, what would be needed is some kind of a protective coating that the cyclone wouldn't penetrate and that there would be no condensation forming. This is just ordinary plaster and concrete. Right? Speaker 1: Right. It's very difficult to imagine, but here's something that even, that is even more interesting to think about. Once the gassing is finished and they had 850 dead bodies in this place, they would have to be taken to the crematoria, which is on the complete opposite side Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: Of the camp, and taken past. Speaker 0: And did you find that there were doors here where they were possibly taking these cadavers out? Or Speaker 1: there are no other doors except this one. There are windows, and there is a stairway on the outside that leads down to some door in the basement. And I'm it most likely might we can't get to that part, so we can't actually see if there might be a door here. But either way, 850 bodies would have to be taken, dragged somehow past every row of inmate barracks Right. To the crematorium. That means the inmates would be looking out their windows. Right. They would see it. Speaker 0: Okay. So what we'll do is we'll go down to the other room there for a minute. What do do you think? Sure. You go you can show us this with where the heaters are and where the Right. The porch cells are over there. We call this. So what are we watching here? Speaker 1: Well, now this is the cell that is shown to the tourists as the suffocation cell. They say that perhaps as many as 40 people would be shoved in here and they would be left to die. Many of them would suffocate by the time they were let out and then the others would be taken to work, cruel of course. However, when you look inside, the first thing you see is that there was a toilet and to the left you very clearly see as in every cell down here heating pipes. If the point of the cell was to torture people and kill them, it seems like a terrible waste of energy and it seems pointless to put a heater and a toilet in here. You can see that running along the floors, in all of these cell blocks are sewer access, areas. So we can assume that, the toilet in there might in fact be connected to the sewer. And, also, of course, when this was used supposedly as a gas chamber, one can assume that the people being gassed might have removed those lids and tried to escape into the sewer if possible. But also one can notice what amazed this is, if you're hiding from the gas in this section and there are bodies, 850 people in this block, bodies blocking the door up there, it's it's highly doubtful as to whether gas could actually get here if it's only been introduced by being thrown in the doorway in the middle. Speaker 0: Always trying to find new photos and new angles. Good. So, David, now we are outside the infamous Auschwitz 1 gas chamber. That's where the whole story began, really. Here we are looking at the gallows where Rudolph has was strangled, right? Speaker 1: In full view of his crime. Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. That's what it says here. Speaker 1: And, so the burden of proof now falls on whether this was a crime or not? Speaker 0: And whether it was in fact, if the crime was committed, whether it was committed in here or not. Mhmm. Now, the building in the background that we are seeing here is the SS hospital or what? Speaker 1: Yeah. What's interesting, the 3 buildings on, the end of the camp here are all for the SS. The furthest building was for Hearst, this building here, the second building was for other SS men. I believe it was mainly offices because, our tour guide did tell us that the majority of, SS lived outside of the camp, perhaps in Oswego in the town. The odd thing is the building in the closest proximity, that gray building over there, the top floor was the SS hospital and the bottom floor was the SS canteen where they ate. As you can see, the windows of the hospital are directly across the road from the ventilation chimneys of the supposed gas chamber. Certainly poor planning on the part of the Nazis, who would be jeopardizing the lives of their own men, not of inmates, but of their own men. It for it's, impossible to think that they would construct something so badly. One would have to say that the Germans had no sense of of, safety or engineering or anything like this, and we know that they do. And we know that, they would have built something in proximity to the gas chamber like that. Speaker 0: No. This is the entrance, the one that we did, the natural flaxones you see here. That's the entrance. The Speaker 1: Well, now they claim now that the entrance was on the other side. They claim that this entrance, both our tour guide, the tour guide supervisor, and Doctor. Piper claim that this entrance here is a complete reconstruction. It has been reconstructed for tourists and it is where the tourists are taken in. But they now claim that the entrance for what for the victims to be gassed is on the other side of this building. We will Speaker 0: shortly go Speaker 1: We will shortly go over there. Speaker 0: And there were also these things that we see on the top here. Mhmm. What are these things like? Speaker 1: Well, the 2 larger chimneys were, the 2 larger, chimneys on the roof were most likely either they reconstructions from the original or they are the original with a little metal roof there. Those there were in fact cremation ovens in this building, we know that to be true, but then there are 4 Zyklon B induction chimneys on the roof, which we will go and look at shortly, and they are now admitted to have been built after the fact. They are made of course of very flimsy wood, they are completely unconvincing, but, the holes in the roof that they are over were also, we now know, drilled in the roof after the fact. Speaker 0: An admission that you got Speaker 1: on tape? An admission from Doctor. Piper and an admission from the supervisor of, tour guides. What's an interesting thing though, our tour guide, who only knew from what she had been taught in the, Auschwitz class where they, they learn their spiel. I asked her specifically, the holes in the ceiling, are they original? She spoke English very well. Are they, She had trouble with some more complex words, so I made it very simple. Are they original or reconstruction? She had used the word reconstruction before, so I assumed she knew what it meant. She said they are original. She pointed to the holes in the ceiling and said they are original. The supervisor of tour guides contradicted that, Mhmm. When she came over and I started asking her the same questions, it is, clear that the tour tries to pass these off as original. But both the supervisor of tour guides and Doctor. Piper very clearly said that the holes are not original, they are reconstructions, they were drilled in after the liberation, and the Zyklon B induction vents on top were put in after the liberation. But I think it's interesting to note that the tour guides are told they're original so that gullible tourists or people who are here to try and observe the supposed tragedy of the gas chambers can feel that they are in the room where it all happened. We also asked doctor Piper if there had ever been any repainting or replastering done on the walls of crema 1 because, of course, crema 1 is devoid of any blue stains from Zyklon b. He said the walls were all in original shape. I asked him why then there would be no blue stains when there was not only blue staining on the inside of the D'Lausen chambers, at, both Majdanek and Auschwitz Birkenau, but also on the outside. The Zyklon B was so strong that in fact permeated the brick and came out the other side. He said that the, amount of Zyklon b used to kill people was smaller than that used to kill lice. The problem with that reasoning is at Majdanek, they claim people were gassed and there are blue stains. They're contradicting themselves. First, they say at Auschwitz, people were gassed and the amount of Zyklon B needed to gas a human being will not produce blue stains. At Majdanek, they say, here people were gassed and the amount of gas will produce blue stains. They cannot have it both ways. And I think it's just common sense to realize that, if you gas people day and night, if you have this, enough operation for any long period of time, then there will clearly be blue staining and high residue in the walls. So we do know that the walls are in their original state. Speaker 0: Right. Forests are After David Cole was through explaining to me the significance of the various chimneys and proclusions and the basic construction and so on of the alleged gas chamber, the outside of it, he took me into the same narrow entrance where all the supposed victims walked into that room, narrow entrance through which millions allegedly went. Speaker 1: Well, we're seeing the exact same thing we saw at the doors at Majdanek, which is that these latch from both sides, from the inside as well as the outside, clearly these doors were constructed to close firmly as if in an air raid shelter perhaps, but not to keep anybody in because they can be manipulated on either side. At Mideneck what they have done they have clearly cut the inside bars on some of the doors so as not to make it apparent that they could latch from both sides but still these can be manipulated from the inside and then up here we see that this has an addition there's a latch on the inside and nothing on the outside and there's a hook on the inside too. Speaker 0: And although inside we were frequently interrupted by guided tours and school classes coming through this large alleged gas chamber, we still found sufficient time to take a very thorough look at all the different claims made about walls and switches and doors and door panels in the crematory. Speaker 1: And, of course, we have them on tape, talk to you about how they cut. It's through this is not even there's no Now we don't we can see that, perhaps here, I'm thinking that maybe they had tried to unsuccessfully put in some holes. We have been told by both Doctor. Piper and the director of the tour guides that the holes you presently see in the ceiling were drilled here by the Poles after the war, that they were not in this room and had to be put in, had to be constructed. They say, of course, reconstructed, but the burden of proof is on them to show how they knew there were holes in here in the 1st place. And walls, of course, these walls they admit to having knocked down, when I believe at some point this room was used as a air raid shelter. And you can see that walls come out from opposite sides and there are doorways. This very clearly was the doorway where there was a wall here. And here's another one of the, fake induction chimneys. Interesting to note while we're in this room that in his book by Brett alone Mel Mermelstein talks about, he shows a picture of this gas chamber and he says, note the fake shower heads. And of course, you can see from the picture and you can see from being here that there are no fake shower heads and they have never claimed there to be fake shower heads. And here we have the glass door. Now this has undergone some change, some renovation. At some point, this glass door had a different pane on it. I believe it had a pane that was divided into 6. Speaker 0: You can you can mildly see it. Mhmm. Speaker 1: But they claimed this was the anteroom, the waiting room, and that this wall here denoted where the gas chamber begins. I would be interested in knowing where Lutcher took his samples whether from this end or from the other end. Speaker 0: He took it in several places in this building. Speaker 1: Because, of course, here, they this side, they claim no gassings ever took place. And here, we can see where there had been toilet facilities, bathroom facilities. We can see what might be the outline of stalls there or perhaps some, sinks or bathtubs. Speaker 0: Other door was Speaker 1: And here here is right where they pointed to there being the original door. They claim that that door is a reconstruction. And this is the original door, but, of course, we have been around to the other side, and we've seen what it looks Speaker 0: like. Good. Speaker 1: Someday, perhaps, we will have an idea about all of the changes, who made them, why they were made, but at least now we have the beginning, we have the admissions. Speaker 0: One of the most disturbing images has for me been the gallows. The gallows where Rudolf Hoss, the commandant of Auschwitz, was slowly, barbarically and brutally strangled to death. Just like Karl Heinz Frank, the last gallbladder of Bohemia and Moravia was strangled by the Czechs after the war in Prague. I think that's why it's so very important Speaker 1: that more than one mind look at the. Yeah. That's the whole point of open debate. You have a lot of people talking about something. If somebody misses something, somebody else will come up with it. Speaker 0: It's a clear daylight. I mean, you see the noise pointed at it. You say, because of Speaker 1: How was Speaker 0: the hell did my thing with that? You know? It's a wall. Yes. Yes. It's a it's a vegan guy. So now where do we go? Speaker 1: Well, this is the end of the tour. So Speaker 0: While leaving Auschwitz, the main camp, David and I passed this group of priests, and it immediately conjured up in my mind this image of importance that Auschwitz, the theme part of the Holocaust, where the camp with this architecture of destruction has become the chief icon of some kind of a new religion, both for Christians and for Jews was brought start into focus. And, I remembered the photographs of the pope visiting Auschwitz and praying over these tablets to the 4,000,000 victims, which have since been reduced, of course, to around 1,000,000 or 1,500,000. Nevertheless, there is this exploitation with candles flickering, Madonna's wreaths, praying people, and, nuns and tour guides and bells tolling and convents on that side and so on. From what we have learned up to this point, Auschwitz does not deserve to be synonymous for evil. Auschwitz is not the icon of evil for all time. After having finished our thorough investigation of Auschwitz 1, the main camp in German called the Stammelager, David Cole took us to Auschwitz Birkenau, the satellite camp, which is really the larger of the 2 and is, in the literature, referred to as the largest death factory in the world. So if you give me the left here, what we see on the left side here. Speaker 1: Well, basically, over here we have the brick barracks. As many of them have new roofs, but as far as the actual barracks, they are in their original state. Some of them have been retiled, the bathroom facilities have been retiled and painted for a movie that was shot here, in the 8 during the second part of 1980s. But most of that most of the barrack facilities are in their original state. There were stoves in each of the you can see there are chimneys in each of the barrack buildings. The stoves have been removed but the chimneys remain and they haven't been tampered with too much. And the reconstructed chimneys, all those chimneys that we see both there and to our right have all been reconstructed to show people where barracks had been at one time. To our right we have the wooden barracks, which are reconstructions. Doctor Piper has told us and also our tour guide told us that those were reconstructed, supposedly they were taken apart from other places and brought here. They claim to have used the original wood but when you compare the style of those barracks from the inside, you see that whereas the brick barracks over here are actually quite well put together. As a matter of fact, couple days ago while we were filming here and a storm broke out and we ducked into one of those and actually even now we're still quite insulated, quite well insulated from the wind and the rain, the wooden barracks are far less well put together, gaping holes in the side, gaping holes in the ceiling and very new looking markings in them, markings in German that, look probably like they were written for the movie. We know that some of those barracks, although we don't know which ones, some of them were modified for the film that was shot here. At the farthest end, which we can't see from here, there is something that resembles a swimming pool, and we were told by Doctor. Piper that it was a something to use for water in case there were fires and there are stairs going down into it and then we see much the same installations like that along the train tracks. Then when we look straight ahead, now this is of course where the trains would go, they would enter the building we're standing on right now. They come through the gate, and we all, I think both sides, revisionists and exterminationists, admit that there were in fact selections, that men and women, were sent to different sides, there was a women's camp, men's camp. Where the exterminationists take it one step further is they claim that at sometimes all the Jews, sometimes only the Jews people selected people selected to die as they were being marched to crema 23 would begin to riot because they would see the burning smoke stacks and yet, there is not now nor was there ever any fencing at the farthest end of the camp and there are 2 ditches, 2 rather long running ditches that run over there as well, making it fairly easy for 3 4000 people to escape. I mean certainly you have 2 guard towers and they could be firing into the crowd and maybe hit 1 or 200 people but the majority of them have escaped. It was bad planning to do it that way. The end of the camp looks far more suited for a morgue where only dead people and the people carrying the dead people would go than a gas chamber where thousands of living people would march to their deaths. Speaker 0: Now that beige patch is the selection ramp you said? Mhmm. Yeah. What is that, asphalt or is it concrete or is it Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that is, or what it was during the 40s, and of course at the very farthest end is the monument to the victims, the plaques are now not inscribed with anything because they have lowered their death toll, Doctor. Piper gave us a rather long explanation as to why they originally claimed 4,000,000 deaths and now only claim little over a1000000. But everybody seems to be saying the same thing in Unison now that the 4,000,000 was a mistake and that it never should have been said, But of course it was said here for quite some time. Speaker 0: Like 4 decades. Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed. And the figures, like many of the figures for the Holocaust were taken quite unquestionably from the communists. They were given and we never really questioned much about their accuracy. Speaker 0: So should we go down then and maybe we'll walk towards the back end still Speaker 1: Certainly. Speaker 0: If we have time? Mhmm. So we are here at the monument where, I suppose, for many years. A lot of people have walked across and read that 4,000,000 victims died here. And, undoubtedly, partly because of the atrocities around in my father, a year after my father died, this was all jizzled out. And used to say in this night, that 4,000,000 people died here at the hand of the Nazis. And, when you spoke to doctor Piper, did you ask him about this? Speaker 1: Yeah. I asked him about the difference in numbers. He gave the same answer as many people do, who are on the little over 1,000,000 according to them that the mistake was made, the lower 1,000,000 according to them, but the mistake was made and the 4,000,000 number got through. The problem with that answer is twofold. First, it shows the superficiality of scholarship on the discriminationist side. If a mistake can become literally carved in stone, to use the theoretical and, in in in reality, carved in stone. But also, it's I think that it existed too long to be written off as a mistake. For too long, the 4,000,000 figure was bounced around, was quoted in the books, was quoted as, truth. I just think this shows how little reality the story was based on in the first place. Something that now people say was a mistake was seen as true history, real history for so many years. And they can lose 3,000,000 people overnight and not blink and I. If we dare to question any of the story, we are called neo nazis, we are slander, we are shut up. It shows the hypocrisy. Speaker 0: Also, how about the first affidavit? He claimed 2,400,000 people were put to now. He was the commander for many years. How come he didn't know how many people were put to death? And now the officials here sitting in the archives say 1,400,000. If he if if why didn't he sign a confession for 2,400,000? I think that also has to be addressed. Speaker 1: The first affidavit, like many of the other confessions where there is evidence that they were coerced with torture with breath, they're all wildly contradictory. I think it's fairly clear that many of the Nazis who gave these confessions given similar testimony about it. But he could reverse that statement first, and many of the other confessions offer many wildly contradictory things. And fortunately, there there were some inmates like Paul Racine and some people who were here like the highest case officer who had the integrity to speak. They never saw any of these things that was that, were claimed. But, there was a lot of early propaganda that was dropped because it was too ridiculous sounding the steam chambers, electric chambers, much of this is listed in congress quarters on Nuremberg. The gas chambers have stuck around, I think, as the last piece of atrocity propaganda to fall. But I think we will see the end of that by the end of Speaker 0: this century. I I hope so. And I appreciate you taking the time out Speaker 1: of that. Well, once again, it's truly been my pleasure. Terrific. Speaker 0: Glad that you and I could come down here and meet electricity is running out, light is running out, time is maybe running out. Well, as the day Speaker 1: as the day ends, let's say, here's to a new beginning. The German Jewish relationship and I hope so. Historical integrity. Yeah. The 5 hopes are now. You you and I Speaker 0: can turn over a newbie. After returning from Europe, I asked David Cole whether he would like to come and go on a speaking tour with the famous British historian, David Irving. He consented, came to Canada, and spoke to packed houses. He was interviewed by the media. He had to struggle his way through demonstrators while going into the halls, And he had to be protected from the demonstrators while leaving the halls. Everybody else needs to leave. I'm gonna introduce you to a young fellow from California. Those of you who read my news centers, know about him. His name is David Cole. He is Jewish. He is not a chairman. And David threw in overnight. It's really cold and shivery right now, and he wants to tell you what he found in Auschwitz when I was with him in Auschwitz to make a film recently. So welcome, David Cole, to Speaker 1: Let me say that I I really appreciate your, fine Canadian weather. I come from California where it's usually pretty warm, but I I do like the cold weather. Ernst has been tempting me with cactus, heavy cactus all day long, and I like it nice and cold. Also tying into something that mister Irvin said, he spoke about doctor Frantisek Peiper, the head curator of the Auschwitz State Museum who has been telling people off the record for quite some time now that Krima 1, the Auschwitz main camp gas chamber, is a reconstruction, which was constructed after the war to look like a gas chamber. Now I, about a month and a half ago, returned from a trip to, Poland and Germany and Austria and Czechoslovakia, where I did a little video tour of the camps and some independent research in my own. And perhaps because I was Jewish and perhaps because I didn't let people know where my sympathies lie in this debate, I got a personal interview with doctor Piper. He was a little uncomfortable at first, but I was wearing a yamulka. Not kidding about that. I actually was wearing a yamulka. And I sat down, and he spoke to me for about an hour. And he admits on video, 2 cameras rolling. I didn't wanna miss this stuff. I wanted to have an insurance copy. He admits on camera now, on the record, for the first time to my knowledge on the record, that crema won the, gas chamber in Auschwitz that is showing off to tourists, by their estimates, half a 1000000 tourists a year has an original gas chamber in its original state. The cream of 1 is a reconstruction. We now have it on the record. People like Robert Farson and David Irving have been right all this time, and, it's about time they got the credit for that. They've been beaten down, beaten up in many cases. But now it's admitted that, it's true. And doctor Piper went further than that. He also said that the remains of the so called white cottage beside of the preliminary gassings in Auschwitz is also a reconstruction. If they just laid bricks in the shape of the base of the house and called it the white cottage. All this is now on videotape for the world to see. And, it's proved positive, I think, the most important thing. I mean, sure, it also proves the deception that, is part of Auschwitz. You go there, you take the tour. I took the guided official tour, and they told me in English that, Cremo 1 is in its original state. And so they tell tourists Prima One is in its original state. The White Cottage is in its original state. So there's deception involved there that that's proven, but I think more than that, there's a more important point that this proves very conclusively that the Soviets and the Poles, after the liberation of Auschwitz, went to work building stuff, constructing stuff that they would then pass off to the world as proofs of Nazi homicidal gassings. If they could do it at Auschwitz, they could do it at Maitnek. If they could the Soviet Army could do it, the American Army could do it at Dachau. We now have proof positive direct from the horse's mouth that, there was a campaign on the part of the Soviets to fabricate evidence that they then would pass off as proof. We know that already, of course, because of the Katyn Forest massacre that was originally blamed on the Nazis. And we knew all along who's the Soviets, and, slowly but surely, they've admitted it over the years. So we know it. It's the Jewish soap story submitted at Nuremberg by, like, a real piece of evidence. So we know there's been fabrications over the year, but this is a fabrication that tourists are still taking in, Gullible tourists with their video cameras take the tour of Frima 1 and are told, hey. This is an original gas chamber. We need to get this information out to public and start the debate on exactly how much is fraud and how much is freedom. And, I can take any questions anybody could have. I haven't really slept in about 2 days, since so I'm, just itching to, get a little shut eye. Yeah. Speaker 0: What kind of reaction has your family or friends been subjected to since you've come out on this issue on an, a non Jewish side? Speaker 1: I started heavy duty activism and revisionism about a year and a half to 2 years ago. And the immediate, reaction was my father disowned me, cut me off from the family. My mother is a little more understanding, but, I'm not welcome around the house anymore. And, my friends deserted me, 1 by 1, to the the effect that, let me just say I don't exactly go broke on Christmas cards. So it hasn't been pleasant, but I didn't expect it to be pleasant. I'm not gonna sit here and whine to anybody about how unpleasant it's been. Defense I'm I'm not a dumb guy. I know going into it. This would be pleasant. But somebody had to come forward. There's a lot of Jews and many of whom I know who know secretly I mean, they don't tell anybody else, but they know that most of the Holocaust myth is, falsehood or exaggeration or just pure supposition, unreliable testimony, or just just pure falsified testimony. They know this, but who wants the tsuris? It's a Giddish word, tsuris. It means the trouble. Who wants the trouble of, you gotta put up with the people who are out there. You gotta put up with losing your job, with losing your family, losing your standing in the community, maybe getting beaten up as I was January of this year by the Jewish Defense League. Who wants that? What people have to do at this point is to make the world safe to be a revisionist, to speak openly. We have to find every single attempt to limit the rights of revisionists, and we have to show someone of a united front when, thugs and other groups try to attack revisionists because it's the oppression that keeps honest people from speaking out because honest people have a right to live a comfortable life. And, they might know better, but they also might wanna provide for their families and and not get killed. So, it's difficult for a lot of people right Speaker 0: now. Anything else? Would you be here tonight, sir, at that point? Speaker 1: Well, that depends on how many, no dose pills I can take. I I'm gonna be speaking tomorrow at, where will that be here? Speaker 0: That's our house. Speaker 1: Tomorrow at 2:30 in the afternoon. So I will be there. I I'm not sure exactly how much longer I can stay awake. I have my life my little bed and a hotel room that I'm somewhat waiting to get back to. It's been about a day and a half now straight that I've I've Vietnam. And I really like sleep. I really like lunch. Very good. Speaker 2: Now we have a young lad, mister David Cole. David Cole comes down from, the States. He wants to do something what seems impossible. He wants to find a way for the Jewish community and the chairman community to sit on one table, man to man, talk easily to each other, and find sufficient friendship what they happened in the fifties when they came to this country. Give it all. Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure if I have the lungs for this. There's no PA system, so I wanna see, first of all, if you can all hear me if I speak at this level. Is that okay? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. As, I was introduced, I am a Jewish revisionist. I prepared a couple of remarks, and I thought I would just begin. I won't drone on too much because, we wanna get this moving. But I'd like to start out by saying that I I don't mean any disrespect to your fine country, in anything that I might say. But, you have to realize that I'm coming here to Canada as a holocaust revisionist knowing that this is a country that treats holocaust revisionists only slightly better than laboratory rats. The Canadian powers that be, seem to hate us so much that they can't decide whether to arrest us, expel us, or just deny us entry. I've never really felt more comfortable saying I know or I'm not wanted, but those same powers that be had better brace themselves for this particular shock because not only am I a Holocaust revisionist, but I'm also Jewish, and I'm also friends with Ernst Zundel. Personally, I don't think arresting or expelling me is good enough. I think they should bring back public flogging for my transgressions. I seem to put big brother in a real bind. After all, if if the Canadian government should try to hurt me, that makes them an anti Semite, by current laws. As a matter of fact, I recently journeyed to Munich where I was honored to break their anti revisionist laws, but, so far, the petty dictators who enforce those laws have let me be. Also, in the United States, I've been interviewed on 2 national talk shows and 1 national network news show, all of which were pulled from distribution and never seen. It seems like I have complete freedom of speech, but the problem lies in securing other people the freedom to hear me. But on the other hand, I've also been physically attacked by groups of thugs. My apartment has been firebombed, and I receive almost nightly death threats. My point being that, I seem to be caught between people want to ignore me and people who wanna kill me. And I assure you, I much prefer to be ignored if I had the choice. So perhaps your benevolent dictatorship will follow suit and likewise ignore me, which would be fine because I want the freedom to do what I can to aid the fight for historical truth up here in the theoretically free country Speaker 0: Sundahl. Speaker 1: But when we mention Ernst and Sundal, we, seem to come to a sticking point. Now you have to understand that most of my friends and relatives have already long deserted me. The fruits of my revisionism have been many. My father disowned me. My friends all conveniently forgot my phone number in one coincidentally large epidemic of amnesia. My girlfriend left me, and some of my relatives speak of me to others as though I'm dead. As you can expect, I won't go broke this year on Christmas cards. As a matter of fact, most people cry with joy at the end of the Frank Catra movie, It's a Wonderful Life, when the angel Clarence tells Jimmy Stewart, no man is a failure who has friends. I cry but for different reasons. Some friends, however, and I still do have some, they've stuck by me. And now I'm hearing from them too about this Ernst Sundel thing. They tell me, come on, Cole. We understand your interest in historical accuracy, but but that Sendle guy, he's a he's a Germanophile. He's a German nationalist. He's, the scum of the earth, the man who dares to be proud of being, be proud of being German. And these friends who say this, let me know that my association with Ernst and Del is the straw that broke their spineless backs. So thanks to mister Zundel, whereas in the last year, I could count the number of friends I had on both hands, I now only require one hand to do the task. But, that that has its benefits. I can count my friends while at the same time doing housework or holding a phone or writing something. It's kind of a time saver. But it brings up an interesting point. What about Ernst and Del? How can I hang around a man who society has dubbed the worst hate criminal in the world? Well, first of all, there's the issue of Ernst Sandel's, supposed hatred. Personally, I don't know too many other people who could take all of the indignities he's had to suffer and hate less than Ernst and amp Udemy does. Time and again, he reaches out the hand of dialogue to the other side, and time and again it's slapped away by the people who really do hate. Although Ernst and Del's only crime is writing about something that is part of his own history, He is targeted for punishment by Jewish groups who, quite frankly, abuse their power and influence, pathetically trying to legislate their own point of view to be everybody's point of view. But still, Ernst doesn't get bitter or violent or hateful. It's the real haters who who write the hate crime laws. And whether you love Ernst and amp Thistle or hate him, it's clear enough that few men have as much reason to be hateful since his own government treats him as subhuman and Jewish pressure groups don't give him a minute's peace. But I know Ernst is a man who refuses to be bitter, a man more at home with words than fists, who really wants to start a dialogue with the Jewish community, and it's time he was taken up on that offer. Let's face facts here. The validity of revisionism aside, Ernst and Del faces the indignity of living in a country that calls itself free, but takes away his freedoms based only on what he writes, only on his ideas, and adding to that indignity, the free speech advocates of the world remain silent, proving that in the minds of many of these free speech hypocrites, unpopular ideas should be protected unless they are unpopular with them. How easy it is to protect ideas that are unpopular with the other guy. It's your attitude to ideas you disagree with that is a true measure of your commitment to free speech. But let me say that there is some validity to what the censors of society are saying. They contend that if people like Ernst and Del, David Irving, or Robert Farazen are allowed to speak, people will stop believing unquestioningly in the Holocaust. And they're right. As a revisionist, I have to agree with that. The more revisionist works you read, the less likely you are to buy the gas chamber story. But whose fault is that? Doesn't the Holocaust lobby have every opportunity in the world to try to prove its case? Aren't they the ones with $1,000,000 museums and think tanks and the support of governments and presidents? If they can't refute what we're saying, isn't it unfair of them to then use their power to prevent the public from reaching the same uncomfortable conclusion that they've reached? The conclusion that there is simply no direct evidence that Jews or anyone else were ever gassed to death or that there was ever a final solution that entailed the genocide of the Jews of Europe. No evidence at all. Don't kid yourself. Holocaust historians have poured over every revisionist work there is, and if they could refute our points, I think surely they would have done so by now. Look at all the trouble that would have saved them. Here they've managed to make celebrities out of revisionists specifically because of the dictatorial policies used against them. My point is this, they admit that revisionists will, if allowed to write freely, sow seeds of doubt about the Holocaust. But how could we do this if there was nothing to what we were saying, or if our points were simply misrepresentations easily corrected by studying the real facts? The people who say the world is flat need to be forcibly silenced in order to prevent sowing the seeds of doubt concerning the shape of the world, thus, resulting in a drastic reduction of people signing up for ocean cruises for fear of sailing off the edge of the earth. The shape of the world is easily explainable, thus meaning we need only worry about the impurably stupid believing in a flat earth, and no society has ever fallen because of what the village idiot believes. But the Holocaust was founded on falsehoods, unproven allegations, and supposition. If it falls apart with the reading of revisionist books, don't blame us. It's precisely because the Holocaust lobby can't answer our points that they resort to violence and oppression. They love to be able to simply answer us and let us die off from lack of credibility, but they know they can't. So it is out of desperation that they try to strong-arm us into silence, but it is here that they make their greatest mistake. People live and die, but words can be forever. Words preserved in books or on film will still be around long after all the beleaguered revisionists in the world right now are dead. What good is punching a man for writing a book? What's more useless than that? In 50 years, what good will that punch do as opposed to the book that caused it, which will still be around? The book will still be read, and the only threat to that book would be another book proving its points wrong. And the Holocaust lobby knows this. They've been keeping the Holocaust alive through artificial life support for all these years, and they know eventually it will have to end. And I invite them to write their little brains out trying to prove us wrong. But I cannot understand what they hope to gain by trying to silence us. They must know that we won't go away Since the first revisionist works by former concentration camp inmate, Resinier, revisionist scholarship has grown, not shrunk. This truth, they must know. Holocaust revisionists, we don't die. We multiply. For a movement with supposedly nothing to say, we have accumulated over the years an incredible volume of books and films supporting our cause. And every time the holocausters have made an attempt to refute us, they end up having to grudgingly admit we have a point. One example is the Leutten Report. While trying to demolish this groundbreaking forensic examination of the Auschwitz gas chambers, the Holocaust lobby was probably surprised as hell when they realized that even by their own tests, Loiters' conclusions about the lack of Zyklon v residue in the walls were right. And then there's the Press Act report distributed by the Klarsfeld Foundation, which admits that not only is there no direct proof of gas chambers, but that many of the things used as proofs were in fact Soviet deceptions, and that many of the most famed eyewitnesses can't be believed. And all this from the other side. No wonder they wanna beat us up. And it's an admission of defeat that they have to resort to violence and oppression. Every time a revisionist is banned from a country or physically attacked, we should take it as a sign of victory. And I know what you're saying. With victories like that, who needs losses? But, no one said that this was necessarily going to be an easy job. We make progress, little progress, but indeed progress. Just recently, I was in Poland, and I got an admission on videotape from doctor Frantisek Peiper, the head curator of the Auschwitz State Museum, that the Auschwitz one gas chamber and you just saw a slide of it, from the last speaker. The Auschwitz one gas chamber, the one that is shown off to millions of gullible tourists as original is in fact a reconstruction redone after the camp's liberation to look like a gas chamber. It's exactly what David Irving and Robert Farsen have been saying for years, finally admitted on the record. Now not only does this show the deception involved on the Holocaust lobby's part, but it all it's also proof positive that after the war, the Soviets and the Poles went to work building what they would then pass off as proofs of gas chambers. And if they did it at Auschwitz, who's to say they didn't do it at Majdanek? And if the Soviet Army did it, who's to say the Americans didn't also do it at Dachau? Slowly but surely, we're getting through, and our eventual hope is for the anti revisionist laws of other countries to fall like the false news law did right here. Which brings me back to the subject of Ernst Sundl, the social pariah, the holocaust revisionist, the proud German, the man who has felt society's cold shoulder far more viciously than myself. Does he deserve the treatment he gets? Now here, I think it's necessary for me to explain a little about my own attitudes toward ideology. Specifically, they are none. I don't personally believe in the concepts of ideology, political, religious, or other. And that allows me to be able to stand back objectively and view them all fairly. I give my emotional ties to people, not concepts. All people deserve a level of respect simply by virtue of being people. Concepts, on the other hand, deserve no respect. They must be constantly challenged, prodded, questioned, never let alone. I try very hard to empathize with people regardless of their points of view, not having to believe what they believe, but also not demonizing those who have different beliefs simply because they don't coincide with mine. And yet I am told by so called decent society to despise the German nationalist, but embrace the Jewish nationalist or the black nationalist. Zionism is a noble cause. German nationalism is a mark of Satan. But since I am neither Zionist or anti Zionist, pro German or anti German, I can't play that game. All my life, I have been around Zionists and have been tolerant and understanding even though I don't hold those beliefs. I therefore try to be equally fair to people with other ideologies, but this is exactly what shocks and angers my Jewish friends that I spoke of earlier. They understand that I'm not part of the ideology game, but they still expect me to join in that hate earned Sunday campaign simply out of some kind of loyalty to the tribe. They want me to join the human game of play favorites, choose a side, then hate the other side. But that's the problem right there. There is too much hate in society already. I will not add to it. There is too much division. I won't let, I won't add to that either. And none of your MPs or your Jewish groups up here can lecture me on hating your ensignal. I come from Los Angeles. The Los Angeles riots were just 6 blocks away from my doorstep. I have seen firsthand the effects of hatred and division. I've also seen it in the faces of my former friends as they lecture me on what a bad Jew I am and on the face of my own father as he announced almost with pride that I was no longer welcome at home, hatred is ugly and leads only to ugly things, and I will not be a part of that ever. So I'm not ashamed to call Ernst and Del a friend of mine, and I'm not ashamed to say that I don't believe in the extermination of 6,000,000 Jews in gas chambers. I understand the grief and anger many Jews feel, but I cannot apologize for having an open mind and for using it. I I cannot be sorry for putting truth over the concept of the tribe. I simply try to be honest and treat everyone fairly. And as much as I can take the abuse that comes with being a revisionist, I ask only that other people be fair with me. Thank Speaker 0: you.
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David Irving in 1975 decided to take a break from writing books about Hitler & The Third Reich, instead he thought he’d write about the history of the Hungarian uprising of 1956 against the communist occupation of Hungary. It ironically led him to the same controversial topic. https://t.co/GDBL3ouilz

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In 1956, Hungarian uprising initially targeted Jews, blaming them for communist oppression. The speaker, a historian, faced backlash for revealing this. During a lecture, he challenged the Jewish community to reflect on why they are disliked historically. This led to a tense exchange where the speaker suggested that their behavior contributed to their persecution throughout history. The speaker's intention was to encourage self-reflection, not anti-Semitism. This confrontation highlighted the complexities of historical blame and self-analysis.
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Speaker 0: In about 1975 was, as Rick mentioned, the the history of the Hungarian Uprising of 1956 against the communist occupation of Hungarian refugees who came to this country after 1956. The Hungarian refugees who came to this country after 1956. And there was no doubt in my mind, a very interesting discovery indeed, which I wasn't aware of until I began investigating that. I didn't realize this. The reason I began writing a book about the Hungarian uprising was entirely irrelevant. I decided to write a book about something other than Hitler and the Third Reich just to show that I wasn't in a rut, But the odd thing was that when I began writing that book, I discovered from the CIA files that the Hungarian people, when they started that uprising, it began as an anti Jewish pogrom. It was essentially an anti Jewish revolution and not an anti communist revolution to begin with for the first few days. The Hungarian people regarded that their government in the 19 fifties as being a Jewish government, and they regarded the secret police, the graded Alameda, the AAVH, as being a Jewish secret police. And essentially, it was because when the Red Army entered Hungary in 1945, they brought back into Hungary all the Jews who had taken refuge in the Soviet Union, and they were the ones who got the plum jobs, and they were the ones who got the trustworthy jobs as secret police chiefs and as torturers. And that's why the Jews were so hated in Hungary by 1956 because they were regarded as the people who had inflicted this nameless misery on the Hungarian people, and so the uprising began as an anti Jewish uprising. Every one of the Hungarian leaders at that time in 1956, Rakosi, and Farkas, and Gero, and the rest of the Hungarian leaders, they were all Jews. And I never realized that when I set out to write it. It's an extraordinary fact the way these things are kept away from the public consciousness. And, of course, inevitably, when the book came out, I was accused of anti Semitism for having written it. What am I supposed to do when you discover something as a historian? Are you supposed to try and pretend it isn't that? And if you do pretend it isn't that, you're doing the Jewish people more harm than good, I think. I delivered a lecture in Shreveport, in Louisiana about 6 months ago, and on this occasion, the audience was about as large as this, but half the audience had been taken over by the local Jewish community, and they decided to wreck my meeting by barracking, and by interrupting, and by being thoroughly obnoxious. And after an hour of this, with the rest of the audience getting very restless at the way they were not being permitted to hear me deliver my lecture, I then said to the leader of the Jewish community who was attacking me, I said, it just came to me like this. I said, I look at myself in the mirror in the mornings, and I know that I'm disliked. I've been called disliked by reviewers in England. The Sunday Times called me the most disliked historian in Britain, which caused me to write a letter to the Sunday Times saying is it the historian's duty to be liked therefore. And how do you know that I'm the most disliked historian in Britain? Do you stand in Oxford Street with a clipboard asking people, what do you think about historians? How do you rate David? And, oh, he's most disliked. I know I said to this Jewish mob in my audience that I am disliked, and I know why I'm disliked. Now you people have been disliked for 3000 years. Do you ever look in the mirror and ask yourselves why you are disliked? That might be the No. I didn't mean it in a I didn't mean it in a in an offensive way. I meant it as a helpful, self analytical way, the way that the communists, the Marxists, to self criticize and self analyze. Have you ever analyzed yourselves as race and said to yourselves, we have been hounded and persecuted and harried and massacred for 3000 years. Why us? They never asked themselves that question, do they? They never asked them this. They come along and they harry and others, and they behave in a totally obnoxious way as I probably behave in their eyes, but they never asked themselves why, and they never cure their own faults. And one of the the the leader of the of the of this faction in the audience stood up furiously. From his accent, I could tell not only that he came from England, but from London. And from his accent, in fact, I could tell from which corner of London he came from because England, our accents are like that. We're very class conscious in England. We can tell what class somebody is by their accent and we can tell which street almost they come from. If you've seen My Third Lady, you'll know this. And I said, you come from Colindale, don't you? And he said, how do you know that? I said, your accent gives you away. And he was the leader of the gang, and he said, are you accusing us? Are you saying that we are responsible for Auschwitz ourselves? And it's a bit of a dazzling question and when you think about it, I said, well, the short answer is yes. But that's a cruel answer because to do the question justice, you've got to have a lot of intervening stages, of course. But the short answer, if you want to hop from a to z, is yes. If you hadn't behaved the way you have as a race for 3000 years, first the Russians, then the Poles, then the Galicians, then the Austrians, and the rest wouldn't have harried and hounded you from pillar the post, so you end up finding yourselves in Auschwitz. And you've never asked yourselves why. And they still don't want to accept that. To him, that question and my answer was unacceptable. In Germany, it would no doubt have been grounds for another $22,000 fine. In Canada, I would have probably found myself in handcuffs again. But I don't think it was an anti Semitic answer. It was an attempt to be helpful in a kind of psychiatrist couch way. Analyze yourself. Cast out the mote from thine own eye.
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David Irving - Manipulating America into WWII (1989) Bookmark & Share. https://t.co/Cr2auh8N3N

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David Irving, a British author, discusses gaps in historical knowledge and the manipulation of documents to provoke the United States into joining World War II. He suggests that Winston Churchill may have known about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance. Irving highlights the influence of academics and the suppression of certain historical facts. He references letters revealing financial support for the Nazi party. In 1938, a violent anti-Jewish pogrom occurred in Germany, but telegrams were sent to stop the violence. The speaker questions the logistics of the Holocaust and mentions Ernst Zundel's beliefs. Emphasizing the importance of seeking the truth, the speaker warns against blindly accepting information from the media.
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Speaker 0: In a world where you must have courage to speak the truth, David Irving stands out like a beacon, and I'm glad that its beam will be directed at us today. He was born in England in 1938, the son of a Royal Navy commander. After completing his education at the Imperial College of Science and Technology and the University College in London, he spent a year working in Germany to perfect his fluency in that language. After hearing him speak in Hamilton last night, I can assure you that he speaks German like a native. In fact, much better than some natives. He is the author of 20 books including the bombing of Dresden, Hitler's war, which I understand is required reading in military colleges, and one of his latest books, Churchill's War, which should be required reading for all of you. It's available here, and I would advise you not to go home without it. Now I am privileged and honored to welcome David Irving to Toronto and to this gathering. I now call to David Irving's conference call. Speaker 1: I thought myself history about simple process of starting off in the outside mainstream of life as a steel worker in Germany where after a year I had achieved the dizzying heights of. And I was the 3rd smelter in the Siemens Martin oven. And I just happened to have the good fortune there of meeting a man who had been in the air raid in Dresden. And that man really created my life for me because he told me what Winston Churchill had done to Dresden on February 13, 1945 in a space of 3 hours killing up to a quarter million civilians in one awful fire air raid which I as an Englishman in 1960 had never heard of. It was a gap in my memory. It was a gap in my knowledge. It was a gap, I was convinced, in the knowledge of all the English people. Nobody had ever heard of what we did to Dresden. We had heard of. We had heard of Auschwitz, Treblinka until we were sick of the story. But nobody had ever heard of Dresden. So I spent 3 years writing the history of the area on Dresden, tracking down all the survivors on both sides, the British, airmen, the Germans who've been on the ground, and my book, the destruction of Dresden, the undigand Dresden, was in eventually, a bestseller. It still sells around the world. They're completely unamended. I've not had to change anything in it, and it became an instant bestseller and so I found my career. I took the decision to become a writer at that point. And after that, as I occasionally say, I wrote a book and I had a child each year. Every year, I had a new book and a new daughter and a new book and a new daughter and a new book and a new daughter four times until I completely ran out of steam. And nowadays, I just write books. I mentioned this gap in our knowledge. There are great gaps in our knowledge for which the historians are to blame. And if I become any kind of allergist at all, I've become a gapologist. I can recognize gaps now at a distance of several 100 yards. This comes from having gone into many archives around the world. If you go only the one archive, you go into the British archives outside London or you go just in the National Archives in Washington or to the Public Archives of Canada and in Wellington Street and Ottawa, then you're you're not going to recognize the gaps because the government archivists do not leave a gap on the shelves where files have once been but have been removed or weeded out as they say in the official jargon. You can only recognize the gaps in the official versions of events if you've been in a lot of other archives and then you get a kind of gut feeling that there's something missing, Something you can't quite put your finger on. Something doesn't quite doesn't quite ring true. I can give you one example straight away. It comes in volume 2 of my church biography, the second and last volume, which concerns the history of Pearl Harbor. And I'm gonna be looking at Pearl Harbor a bit later on today because it is a vitally important story. Quite simply, every expert who's ever written or or studied the story of Pearl Harbor knows that there are 2 vitally important areas of information. The one concerns the intercepted Japanese code messages. We, British and Americans, were reading the top secret Japanese code messages at various levels. And I emphasize the word various levels because the question now in our minds is at what level were the British reading these messages. We know what level the Americans are reading them at because the Americans have released all their files to the National Archives. Millions of pages of the Japanese intercepted diplomatic messages in the code called purple. We were reading them with a code machine, a kind of computer called magic. So with our magic, we would read the Japanese purple diplomatic messages in code. Those are just the diplomatic messages. But I believe that the British were reading not only the diplomatic messages, but because of our advanced expertise in the world of code breaking, we were reading Japanese messages to a significantly higher level. It's difficult to put your finger on the proof of this except if you recognize the fact that we, British, had in 1943,000 code breakers working in our code breaking operation at at Bletchley Park and the satellite organizations, whereas the Americans had in 1940 1941 less than 180 code breakers. So we had many, many times as many experts working on the problems of breaking codes. We've been in the business for many years. And we have begun breaking a certain Japanese code called jn25, the Japanese naval code number 25, in September 1929. We know that much. And the question is how well were we breaking the code? And it's difficult to say because these British Japanese intercepts, the Japanese messages being intercepted by the British, which we call BJ, the black jumbos. The British government and here's the gap, the British government have not released one single page of any Japanese intercept in the British archives. So there's what you don't notice. You go to the American archives in Washington, you find 1,000, 100 of thousands of pages of intercepted Japanese messages. You go into the British archives. And although we British have released into our British government archives, the German intercepts and the intercepts of other nationalities, decoded messages. We have not released one single page of Japanese intercepts. Not even the ones that you can read in Washington, which were intercepted and decoded by the British because we had a complete share with the Americans of the purple messages. You won't even find those released in the British archives. The Americans probably didn't realize in their weeding out process that the ones in their archives partly come from Britain. You can spot it if you look closely because of the British spelling of certain words and because of the the classification on these documents most secret, which is a purely British classification, not an American one at all. But in the British archives, you won't find a Well, my view is that we can deduce from that that we're hiding something. Well, my view is that we can deduce from that that we're hiding something. Gaps occur in archives because we are hiding something. In fact, a good friend of mine, John Costello, who's written on this kind of period but hasn't spotted the gap himself, the size of the gap, he wrote a letter back in 1982, 83 to the British government saying when were the Japanese intercepts going to be released, particularly ones he was after. And the British government wrote to him saying, dear mister Costello, it would not be in Britain's national interest for these documents to be released. In fact, they're not going to be released until the 21st century. This is going to become quite a familiar date in the course of this talk because we find out that all sorts of documents aren't going to be released until the 21st century in the British archives, although we have a 30 year rule. So whose interest is being protected when we decline to release the British public documents relating to the war with Japan in 1941? Odd situation, isn't it? Well, the answer is it isn't people's it isn't people's interest who's being protected. It's people's reputations being protected. In this particular case, it's the reputation of Winston Churchill who died back in 1965, but even now is a taboo subject for historians. No one is allowed to suspect from reading British Visual Archives that back in 1941, we knew that the Japanese were about to attack Pearl Harbor and didn't tell the Americans. This is my suspicion and I'm justified in this suspicion because of various clues that you find in the archives. J n 25. We were beginning to read it in September 1939. Would it have provided the clue for us? Well, 4 years later, in 1944, the Americans were able to read j n 25 by doing the very hard work with their computers. They began decoding their backlog of signals that they picked that back in 1940, 1941 in that code. And they discovered that on December 4, 1941, 2 days before Pearl Harbor, the Japanese had transmitted a signal which revealed exactly in code jn25 that Pearl Harbor was going to be the target of this massive Japanese strike. So if we were reading JN 25, then we would have got that news. And by we, I mean Winston Churchill because if there's one thing on which historians are united, it's common ground between us. Churchill alone had complete unrestricted access to the products of the code breaking organization. He limited it himself. He gave orders that nobody else was to see it. Only he was to have this Olympian view of the products of intelligence. I mentioned in my earlier talk in Toronto some of the other ways in which he used this unique insight into what the enemy was up to. Churchill knew from reading the German codes that Hitler at no time intended really to invade Britain, that he was pure bluff. And, of course, this didn't suit Churchill's book at all that anyone should know that. So he pretended that Hitler was planning to invade the famous operation sea lion. He pretended that what Hitler intended as was, in fact, real. That at any moment, Nazi paratroopers were going to land and that the invasion fleet of the Nazis, which was being rattled on the other side of the English Channel against us would, in fact, appear laden with their smart stormtroopers. He told this to Roosevelt. He told it to his own people. He broadcasted it at large and the British people believed it then and believe it to this day. These famous features of Winston Churchill And if the British empire and his commoners who had lost a 1000 years, people will still say this was their finest hour, the Battle of Britain. But Churchill knew from reading Hitler's secret code messages to the, the German Air Force, that Hitler had ordered the German Air Force never to bomb a British town or city, and that London was totally prohibited from attack by the German Air Force. Our perception now of the 2nd World War is a bombs and bombs and blitz and blitz. But the truth is that not one bomb was directed by the German air force against the British town until 12 months after the war began. Under the bombing of London only began after Churchill had deliberately set about bombing Berlin because he needed Hitler to bomb London. He needed it for political reasons. He needed it because he wanted the peace movement in Britain to come to an end. He needed it because he wanted the British people solidly behind him. He needed it because he wanted, above all, to shock the Americans into coming to the war on his side. And bringing the war of the across the Atlantic United United States is a main theme of my talk tonight. How did Churchill manage to bamboozle the Americans? You see, the Americans weren't very keen because war with us. The Americans people the American people had no great love with the British. In fact, there was a Gallup poll in June 1942 after Pearl Harbor which showed that the American people still didn't really like the British. I'll read out some of the conclusions of Garoppolo. The Americans felt that in 1942 that there should never be closer collaboration with British and certainly not after the war. England's power will be gone, they predicted. The Americans saw the British as aristocratic, snobbish, selfish, arrogant, and cold. Arrogant was nothing wrong with arrogant. The other point is a bit a bit negative. We pay a lot of money to send our children to school in England to get arrogance and if they come back without the requisite arrogance, we're very displeased with the school. We British saw the Americans like this. Conceited, cocksure, gangsters, graft, and full of corruption. I don't suppose that remark can be taken as anti Semitic, but this is certainly the way that we put this all the Americans in 1942. There was no love lost between them. In fact, there was a healthy mistrust of mister Churchill and the British in America. In fact, I went through the FBI files on Churchill and I found a letter, a lot of letters, written by the Americans to mister Churchill, which the FBI very kindly intercepted. So as to protect Churchill from the language they contained. There was a letter written to Churchill in June 1942 by a mother of 3 in California who wrote as follows. Every time you appear on our shores, it means something very terrible for us. Why do you not stay at home and fight your own battles instead of always pulling us into them to save your rotten necks? You, mister Churchill, you are taking foul advantage of our blithering idiot of a president. He was. But before I go and say some harsh things about Churchill, let me just be a bit kind to him and say that he was a wonderful writer and a great orator. He was able with this gift of the gap to sway not only large crowds and multitudes and millions of listeners at home who heard his broadcast and heard his speeches in the Houses of Parliament. He was a great writer as well. Churchill, I've often said, writing at his worst was better than most of our other writers, including his husband and Rushdie, writing flat out. Churchill would have won every glittery award there was even if he wasn't Winston Churchill. One of my favorite passages of writing by him, which I quote in the next volume, is this description of what life is about. He says a man's life is similar to a walk down a long passage with closed windows to each side. As you reach each window, an unseen hand opens it. But the light that it lets in only increases by contrast the darkness at the end. But he was a very difficult person. One general writes in his private diary, which I have obtained from a university archives, saying that he had such strange behavior that this is gonna describe him sometimes as infantile. The same general, we're really watching him throw yet another tantrum remark to the Ministry of Economic Warfare. Dalton. You, Dalton. You sometimes get the feeling that a nurse should come and take him away. And some of his fetishes, I also right here, Forgive me from giving you a bit of a preview of the volume which is coming along later this year. Some of his fetishes must have had their roots in his unsettled infancy. He had a whimsical habit of exposing himself. He was a flasher. Just like a naughty child, both to his young male secretaries and to his elders and debtors, each man thought that he was being uniquely privileged. But this happens so frequently that it cannot have been fortuitous. No matter how high ranking the person is, with the exception it seems of his majesty, he was likely to find himself received by Britain's prime minister, Churchill, in a state of total nudity on one pretext or another. Churchill frequently received his ministers or staff officers while sitting in or stepping out of the bath. These blessed popes being referred to afterwards as mister Churchill's companions of the bath. He was an English noble order. Sorry, camera. He was enmold in the words of Brigadier Menes, the head of our secret service, a nice pink pig wrapped in a silk tuminous. I had to talk to the peer when he was undressed and he wants in the bath mentioned that he had nothing to hide from me. Not even foreigners was spared this ordeal. On August 26, 1941, he asked the butler at Checkers, his, country house to bring Elliot Roosevelt, the president's son, to come and see him. I knocked on the door, said the president's son, and entered. Churchill was dictating in to his male secretary with a large cigar in his mouth. He was absolutely starker marching up and down the room. Others, including your own prime minister, Mackenzie King, were treated with scarcely greater mercy. He would wear his white linen undergarments to receive the prime minister on one occasion. And on another occasion in day 1943, Mackenzie King wrote in his diary, he was really quite a picture but looked like a boy. Cheeks quite pink and very fresh. I'm not I'm not sure which cheeks he was referring. Back to the blithering idiot, president Roosevelt. How did Churchill set about Boone Boondoggle any of them bringing him into the war at a time when the great American public did not want to go to war on anybody's behalf. Roosevelt, we know, wanted war. Roosevelt had said in cabinet, September 1938, when one of his cabinet ministers asked him this growing crisis in Europe, the Munich crisis, this relating crisis, is this good for us in the United States or bad? And Roosevelt's answer which I quoted in my Churchill biography. You won't find it quoted anywhere else. Roosevelt said, any war in Europe is good for us Americans because every European country has to buy its arms and ammunition from us. Already, the gold of the European countries is flooding across the Atlantic towards us at a rate so fast that we don't have enough warships to carry it here. So any European war was good for the United States. So So Roosevelt wanted it, but he had no pretext. And we find one thing from the Japanese intercepts, which I'll read out to you, which shows the the the American problem that Hitler didn't do them the favor of provoking a war with the United States. Hitler had given the strictest instructions to avoid any kind of incident with the United States. And on November 19, 1941, the Japanese ambassador in Washington, as we saw because we were reading his messages, had a private talk with an Austrian Jew called Schmidt. And this Jew called Schmidt had gone to see Felix Frankfurter who was a fellow Austrian Jew or Austrian emigrate who is now the Supreme Court Justice of the United States. A very close friend and adviser of Roosevelt. And Nomura writes in his report back to Tokyo, Germany, according to what French writer had said, Germany has been smart in that she has consistently done everything to prevent arousing the United States. Therefore, regardless of how much the president tries to find the anti German frame, he cannot make the desired headway. Germany being smart avoiding war and president Roosevelt trying desperately to provoke it. And of course, guess who becomes the war criminal in 1945? It's not president Roosevelt. It's the Germans who are branded as war mongers against the United States. Now Now let us see let us see the methods which Churchill used to drag the United States in. The first thing he does was to fake large numbers of documents. Very important fake document in July 1941. He faked the document. His secret service take the document Apparently, a letter from the Bolivia military attache in Berlin, an unfortunate major called Elias Belmonte. A letter from this military attache in which he reveals that he is conspiring with the Nazi government to to bring about the overthrow of his own government in La Paz. And then they were going to invite Germany into Bolivia from where they could then stage an invasion of the whole of South America and the rest of the United States. Well, the result was that the letter was published by Roosevelt because we furnished it to Roosevelt as proof of what Hitler was up to. And this unfortunate major, Elias Belmonte, to his greatest punishment, found himself dismissed from his post, recalled, thrown out of the eye, put in prison for a letter that he'd never written. In 1972, the British intelligence officer who actually taped the letter, a man called Montgomery Hyde, revealed what he had done, that he was the one who had faked the letter. And not Major Balmonte, the Bolivian officer concerned, was still alive at that time living in retirement with no pension because that's what happened if you get into hot water. The Bolivian government staged a grand military parade in La Palace to reinstate him in the army with full honors and promoted him on his spot to general to make up amends for what we British had done to him. And this was the kind of thing we carried on doing right through the next 12 months. Even after Pearl Harbor when the British government had the need to persuade the Americans that they were at risk of being invaded by Adolf Hitler. As if Hitler didn't have his hands full with Moscow and Kharkov and Stalingrad and all the other fights on the eastern front. He was at the same time with his left hand going to invade the United States. And somehow, the the American people had to be persuaded that this was so. That Hitler had plans to dominate South America, overthrow the South Southern American regimes in Latin America, and then march northwards into United States. And the way Churchill did it, I can tell you one particularly grisly example. And this, again, isn't from what some unfortunate gentleman says in the witness box of Nuremberg to defend his his own skin. This is from the documents. Only were from original documents. This is from the documents of the state department. In May 1942, the American state department sent rather received a rather mystified telegram from its ambassador in Bogota, the capital of Colombia. The American ambassador sends a telegram to Washington saying, I've been approached by my British colleague and his secret service station chief, Louis Stagg, the head of British chief of service in Bogota, asking for technical assistance in assassinating the foreign minister here. Well, I mean, this is a bit tall. You think of it steep. British government going around assassinating foreign ministers of countries to whom they're accredited, and the American ambassador is told immediately by Washington, don't don't get involved in this. The British have caused us enough trouble already with their fake documents. The FBI has got his hands full trying to investigate the authenticity of all these documents. It always turn out to have been faked by the British. So we're not gonna get involved now in assassinating the foreign minister of Bogota. An unfortunate gentleman called mister Lopez de Mesa. So I thought I'll investigate this and after a lot of investigation, I found out where Stag was living. He's still alive in Paris as far as I know and I questioned him. Rather shame, basically, he admitted that yes, this was true. He had had to assassinate a few people on orders. So I said, orders from who? He said, well, from New York. I said, where about? He said, well, the Rockefeller Center. The Rockefeller Center, that's the headquarters of British Security Coordination in North America, which was run by a gentleman known to a lot of you, sir William Stevenson, a Canadian, who was the man called Intrepid whom Churchill had appointed to run the British Secret Service in North America until our own lapdog, General William Donovan, head of the USS, was appointed on our recommendation to head an American secret service. He was appointed by us, by the British, by Roosevelt. We appointed him, and then Roosevelt said yes. And Donegal then ran the American Secret Service, and he was our nominee. The fact that this business has tagged, I asked myself why are we assassinating a foreign minister in a in a neutral or friendly country like Bogota, like Colombia. And the Colombians couldn't elucidate it for me because I said, was this man a pro Nazi or what we would nowadays call a neo Nazi in the in the jargon of the media? The answer was no. Look at de Mesa was particularly pro British, known for his pro British views. So why were we assassinating a pro British foreign minister? Well, the answer is Churchill wanted this man assassinated because he was due to retire anyway 3 weeks later. In in Colombia, they have a kind of rotation system. The minister was due to retire 3 weeks later and will be replaced by another. So he was extendable. He will be replaced by another pro British foreign minister. And in the meantime, Churchill could announce to the world the Nazis who assassinated the pro British foreign minister of Bogota Columbia in preparation for their own invasion. And then, of course, there was the business of the map of South America that Winston Churchill ordered his secret service to have printed and prepared, printed by British printers, but with German names and then taped with German handwriting. I've seen it. It's in the Roosevelt archives now without any kind of explanatory document. But I know from British sources that this document was faked by the British Secret Service showing Hitler's plans to invade South America and then Latin America. The result was that president Roosevelt made a very stern warning and a broadcast on October 27, 1941 reading as follows. Hitler has often protested that his plans for conquest do not extend across the Atlantic Ocean. His submarines and raiders prove otherwise. Of course, at this time, Roosevelt knew justice justice Churchill did from code breaking that Hitler had ordered all his submarines and warships on no account to get involved in any kind of hostilities with American ships despite provocations. So does the entire design of his new war world order. For example, said Roosevelt in October 1941, I have in my possession a secret map made in Germany by Hitler's government by the planners of his new world order. It is a map of South America and the power of Central America as Hitler proposes to organize it. Remember, the map is fake by the British Secret Service. Today, in this area, there are 14 separate countries. The geographical experts of Berlin, however, have ruthlessly obliterated all existing boundary lines and have divided South America into 5 federal states bringing the whole continent under their domination. This map makes clear the Nazi design not only against South America but against the United States itself. He may have been a bittering idiot that he knew how to use the documents that British Secret Service funneled to him. And the biggest provocation of all was Pearl Harbor. Now here, again, we come up against great gaps in the archives. But there are only gaps that you're going to notice if you've got an open mind, which means that you're capable of thinking the most awful things thinkable. If, for example, you look at the private diary of the American Secretary of Defense in the months before Pearl Harbor, you find gaps. But You don't notice them if you look at the printed version of these diaries. You don't notice them unless you're prepared for these things. I read those diaries again and again and again. It wasn't until I suddenly started realizing that some pages had fewer lines than other pages that I realized that the diaries had been tampered with. Now Simpson dictated his diary onto a dictaphone every day, sometimes 20 or 30 pages long. It's a very valuable source document for historians. But the trouble with diaries is that they can be faked and tampered with. A clue that somebody's tampered with the pages of the diary of Henry Stinson is that for the 4 months before Pearl Harbor, we find that some pages have been retyped by a different secretary. In other words, it's not months, but probably years later, because secretaries have their own habits. They underline a date. They need 3 spaces instead of 2 after a period. They indent by 5 spaces or 6 spaces instead of 3 or 4. They're consistent, the secretaries. So you can spot if a new hand has retyped a certain page and, of course, if the page is 5 or 6 lines shorter than the other pages on either side of it, that's another clue. And over the days 4 months before Pearl Harbor, you find out that the pages have repeatedly been retyped. And over the few days before Pearl Harbor, December 3rd December 4th, you find that the entire days have been retyped. And on Pearl Harbor Day itself, you find that on December 7, 1941, Page 3 almost has been completely retyped by whoever this new secretary was. And if you look at the days between November 9, 1941 and November 26, 1941, 3 weeks before Pearl Harbor at the height of the American Japanese crisis, you find that he'd been so careful in editing his own dial, he's cut out every reference to Japan, and incidentally, every reference to magic as well, which were very frequent in the previous diary pages. So you see that Stimpson, for some reason, has gone through his own diaries months or years later. I'll tell you when in a minute. And he's obliterated everything relating to Japan, to magic, and purple because he would incriminate somebody. And here we have by an extraordinary fluke the exact day on which he was doing the painting because on November 4, 1944, he's telephoned by Henry Morgantau, the American secretary of the treasury. Morgantau is up to his eyeballs in deep trouble because of the Morgenthau plan and doctor Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister, has announced that because of Morgenthau, the American army is gonna have to fight extra hard and has cost the lives of 2 divisions of GIs, the Morgenthau plan. Morgenthau telephoned his cabinet colleagues to say say it isn't so. And in his diary, I passed New York State. I found a pen shoot note written by Morgan Tower reading as follows. 8:45 PM, telephoned Henry, Henry Simpson, at Coldharbour Springs 2010 and asked him to do something to counter these rumors about the 2 divisions. Henry sounded more tired than ever. He said he was tired out from working the last 2 weeks on the Pearl Harbor documents to keep out anything that might hurt the president. There you have it. The exact day when he's going through his own papers making all these changes. My conclusion is that in those 2 or 3 days, we British not only knew about the coming Japanese war, but we knew who was going to be attacked, not only Britain and the Dutch East Indies, but also the United States. And very probably, Churchill actually knew about Pearl Harbor. There's 2 gaps in the British archives. I've mentioned one of them already. The fact that the British archives make no reference whatsoever to the intercepted Japanese messages. And the other gap is another complex, which historians are familiar with in connection with Pearl Harbor, and that is the so called wind's messages. The wind's messages. You see, on December 3rd December 4th, those two days that have been heavily changed in the Simpson diary, On December 3rd December 4th, the Japanese government notified its ambassadors in Britain and Washington and in Hong Kong and Singapore that they were to destroy their code machines, which is a sure sign that war is coming. You don't destroy your code machines and it's something pretty final is about to happen. And in the message subsequent message, the same ambassadors were told to destroy all their secret documents using special chemicals. And we intercepted those messages because they were in the diplomatic code purple. So we knew that something ugly was about to happen. Those are the documents that are banished from Stimson's diary, of course. That's what's been cut out on those 2 days. The fact that he knew that war was about to come. But the question is, with whom? The Americans rather hoped it would just be war against Britain and war against the Dutch East Indus because the Japanese urgently needed oil and other raw materials. They didn't really want war with the United States. This was the hope and belief. No. Because in a message on November 19, which we also decoded, Tokyo had notified these same ambassadors to listen out for weather broadcasts. Certain weather forecast would be broadcast in ordinary Japanese without being coded on the regular weather service and on the regular radio broadcast and by listening to certain cryptic messages buried in the middle of the weather forecast, the Japanese ambassadors would know only when the attack was gonna come, but which countries were gonna be attacked. North winds rain, west wind mild would probably mean the United States being attacked. A similar cryptic message would mean that Japan is about to attack Russia. A similar message would mean Japan is about to attack Britain. And by looking at the weather forecast on these dates, which will be repeated twice, the ambassadors would know even without the coding machines which have been destroyed that more was about to happen against And as it turned out, the message was broadcast early on December 4th. Again, one of the days it's been tampered within the Simpson diary. Early on December 4th, the wind's message was heard by the Americans indicating clearly that not only Britain was gonna be attacked in the Dutch East Indies, but also the United States, but that Russia was not going to be attacked. So we knew if we were also listening out, and there's no doubt that Britain and the United States were listening out solidly from the moment we decipher that wind's message for for prepared to signal. We were listening out solidly for the ominous weather forecasts. We knew that Britain and America was going to be attacked. And if we were reading jn25, and I'm prepared to stake my head on it, we were reading that Japanese fleet operational code JN 25. We knew. Churchill knew that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked on the day it was. Question is, of course, the $1,064,000 question. Did Churchill then tell president Roosevelt or did he decide to keep it to himself sitting back smugly and waiting for news of the attack? There's an interesting little highlight in Churchill's own memoirs which he still hadn't unpuzzled himself at that time. On the evening of the Pearl Harbor attack, when he still hadn't officially received news, he invited the American ambassador to come and have dinner with him. And in England, of course, the main radio news broadcast was always at 9 PM. In a few minutes before 9 PM, Churchill had the butler bring in the little portable radio set and stood on the dinner table. And at 9 PM, he lifted the lid which switched on the radio and waited confidently for the BBC news broadcast which would announce the American attack on Pearl Harbor. And rather to his after this little radio set had warmed up, of course, that's in the old days of the old radio set which took a minute or 2 to warm up. The first one or two lines of the BBC news broadcast that they're already been spoken and the newscaster was not mentioning Pearl Harbor at all. The broadcaster just said, meanwhile, General Montgomery's attack in the Western Desert is making great progress against real marshal Rommel, and the rest of the news broadcast is almost entirely devoted to that. So Churchill rather irritably turned the radio off. And Winant, the American ambassador, also described this curious scene in his diary and in his manuscript papers without realizing that he'd witnessed, I I think, the final proof that Churchill expected the attack on Pearl Harbor. Because Churchill expected, of course, that the BBC News will be swamped with this extraordinary announcement from from Honolulu. So I got in touch with BBC, and they gave me an actual photocopy of the script that was used on the night of the Pearl Harbor attack. The 9 pm broadcast shows that, in fact, the news arrived so late in BBC Broadcasting House, they were just written in as one and a half lines at the top of the news. The news reader is saying something like, we are getting news of an attack by the Japanese on the American fleet in Hawaii. However, the other main item of today's use is the attack by Montgomery in the western desert. So Churchill missed what he'd been waiting for, and I think that this is the final clue that he knew what was going on. There is one more clue incidentally in the private diary of Cecil King. Cecil King, a famous British newspaper owner and proprietor, chief editor, Sandy Mirror, the Daily Mirror Group, Sandy Pictorial. These newspaper people in Britain were very powerful potentates during the war church, so couldn't silence them completely. And they had their ear to the ground, and they knew a lot of secrets about what was going on, which, of course, didn't reveal in their newspapers. And his private diaries, which are perfectly genuine, are in the University of Boston, Massachusetts Library. Because Cecil King, an Irishman, didn't want them to come into an English archives, so we English have to go to Boston, Massachusetts to look at them. And on December 17, 1941, Cecil King writes in his diary about a lunch he's had with Hugh Cuddliff who's a fellow newspaper owner and director. Hugh's most sensational item was that we had given the Americans 5 days warning on Pearl Harbor. Maybe true, maybe untrue. But it's another little clue, another little grain of truth, another little mosaic stone which points very much in the direction of how we dragged the United States into the war. Of course, after we got the United States into the war, it didn't really matter. The United States will then enter at hell or leather. The Japanese had not just dented the American fleet at Pearl Harbor. They had sunk 3 quarters of the American battleships, 3 quarters of the American Pacific fleet in this appalling attack. Very cleverly, very skillfully executed there, repeated exactly the same as the attack at quarter in the First World War, you remember. On that occasion, the Japanese were on our side, of course, and we had said what magnificent bravado and daring and courage were shown by the Japanese. 1941, it was a day of information. That's the way that things change, of course. And a few days later, Churchill went to the White House. And he was one of their most honored guests in the White House, December 1941. And he invited President Roosevelt to come and visit him in his quarters. And you know the condition in which he received President Roosevelt. Roosevelt found mister Churchill standing there completely naked in the middle of his bedroom. I don't know what the psychological explanation for it is. It's I'm not a psychiatrist, but it's an undeniable fact. It's in the private hours of all those around Churchill, And another gap in our knowledge. I've talked about the academics before. They don't really do research. They don't have time to do research. And this is why you frequently find that the academics and the universities were in the front line of the demand that I should not be allowed for heaven's sake to speak to their students because they fear that their students will afterwards come to them with questions. They said this. A professor who isn't being quoted by other professors doesn't really exist. It's a kind of philosophical concept. They've got to go around catching support from their fellow academics, the kind of bilateral trading agreement. If if I quote you in my book, do you promise to quote me and your? And this is a kind of bilateral agreement and they got 4 of them quoting each other and 8 and 10 and 20 professors all saying the same thing. So gradually, whatever absurd thesis has occurred that germinated in the mind of one of them has so many worthy names stamped on this hypothesis that it becomes a fact whether it was ever a fact or not. And you only have to take certain aspects of 2nd World War history in Germany to realize that there are whole areas of German history, which have so many German professors names stamped on them that it has now become a fact. And regardless of whether it's a logical fact or not, whether it's implausible or or not or whether it seems unlikely that even a madman would do these things, so many professors like Roshard and Yekal and Yilgrouwer and Jacobsen have stamped their names on these absurd And so these facts take off like the Goodyear blimp sailing around the gorgeous German countryside with the names of all these professors stamped on the side and they exist. And the investors after a time get nervous that somebody's gonna come along and prick this balloon, but I'm. I go around and and I I bring it down eventually. And in Germany, they're desperately trying to wall in these beliefs there. God rather like some holy religion. There are certain things that in Germany you cannot now attack or impugn the integrity of. You cannot say, for example, I don't believe in gas chambers because if you do, you go to prison in Germany. It has become a fact anchored in German criminal law. We we don't have that kind of thing. In Canada, you have facts of which people take judicial notice. They do kind of it's the same kind of English difference. You see, if I can just very briefly at the end of this talk look at that this particular, this particular fact which is bothering a lot of us now and it's begun bothering me since I gave evidence in a trial here in Toronto in April last year. It's implausible and it's untrue. I wrote for 10 years a biography about Hitler. I've just written another biography on Hermann Goring who was the second man under Hitler. Hermann Goring signed a famous document in July 1941 ordering Heydrich to carry out the a comprehensive solution of the Jewish problem. And of course, into that kind of vague word, you can read any kind of meaning you want. And the the malicious German historians read into it a deliberately evil interpretation and an objective historian looks at it and says, well, we know from what Hermann Goering was up to before the war, we know from what the Germans were up to before the war, that is probably a quite innocent explanation. Let me read to you a few documents which, again, the historians have never ever seen before, but which is so important if I find them, that they they really deserve to be to be taken cognizance of. Writing my Churchill biography, I came across a number of letters written by Heinrich Bruning. Now Heinrich Bruning is not a Nazi, of course. He's an anti Nazi. He was known as the last chancellor of the Weimar Republic. Wasn't exactly the last, but he was the last important chancellor of the Weimar Republic. He had to fight inflation. He had to fight all sorts of catastrophic problems in Germany. One of which was the rise of the Nazi party. And Heinrich after he fled to safety Heinrich after he fled to safety in 1934 just before the night of the long nights, he came to Britain. He lives in Oxford for a few years, corresponded with with Winston Churchill, and then he came to the United States. And I'm going to read you a couple of excerpts from letters by Bruning, who was anti Nazi, to give you an idea of what was the problem that existed in Germany before the wars. What particularly angered was the fact that the people who had supported and financed the Nazi party in 1928 were not the people you would expect. And he wrote about this in a letter to Winston Churchill on August 28, 1937. Churchill was at that time living in the wilderness in Britain. He had no kinds of income from any break of the sources except as member of parliament, but he kept in touch with interesting statesmen from around the world. And wrote in this letter on August 28, 1937, in which he said, well, he talked about the people who financed the Nazi party. In part, the French secret service, in part, certain banks in Berlin. And Churchill was so shocked by this letter that he wanted to quote Bruning's letter in his memoirs, the 2nd World War. That's 6 volume history which Churchill published after World War 2. And in 1948, Bruning wrote him a letter forbidding it. And I have both letters because although the Churchill family have refused to allow me access or anybody else access to the Churchill archives, They're anxious to protect the reputation of the grand old man. It's always possible to encircle archives, so to speak, if you go to all the other archives around the world. Because Churchill wrote that, he keeps the carbon copy. The original goes in the powers of Stalin or or Ribbentrop or Eisenhower or Truman or Roosevelt, whoever it is. So you can kind of replicate the Churchill archives. And I found this Bruning letter in the archives of Time Life, which were publishing the Churchill memoirs because Bruning wrote simultaneously to the magazine saying, please don't publish that letter. I wrote in 1937 because it is tragic and awkward. I did not, Bruning wrote to Churchill in 1948, and I do not even today, for understandable reasons, wish to reveal that from October 28, the 2 largest regular contributors to the Nazi party were the general managers of 2 of the largest Berlin banks. Both of a certain pace which I won't identify because I don't want to be open to accusations. And one of them one of them, the leader of Zionism in Germany. Now this was what worried Hooning that at the time that he was chancellor, he was fighting a Nazi party that was being mysteriously funded by the biggest banks in Berlin. In 1943, he went to America and lived there in exile. He only died a few years ago in fact. Pooning lived in exile in America, and in America, he wrote an extraordinary 13 page document on the problems that he had suffered in Germany and during the 1st years of the Nazi regime. He said after the inflation, there was only one big bank in Germany not controlled by Jews, and some of them were utterly corrupt. When the banks came under government control in 19 31, meaning his government by the word control, I think he means controller, which means supervision. When they came under government supervision in 1931, our findings of dishonesty were kept secret by my government for fear of promoting promoting anti Semitic riots. This was the problem he had long before he became to power in 1931, and he's writing this remember in America in 1943. And he goes on to say, morally wrong and as faithful as it is for the Nazis to put Jews in the concentration camps in Poland, and we all agree that. The same action by the Soviet government after the Russian occupation of the eastern part of Poland cannot have been morally superior. The tactical abuse of uncontested moral principles, which began during the last war, has destroyed the scale of moral values all over the world and we are now suffering for it. These calls were commissioned to be established by governments after the war to find out the truth as to what happened. Which countries have been responsible for atrocities and not just Germany. It's an interesting thing. Ballooning. What a brave man living in occupied living as an exile in the United States, calling for an inquiry into atrocities committed by all the governments after the war, not just by the Nazi government, and he's an anti Nazi. Then he goes a bit further. He demands an investigation of the Reich Christian Act in November 1938 because he doesn't believe the official version. And he says it has been disastrous for the Jews in Germany that at the beginning of the Nazi regime, the occasional ill treatment of Jews, and he emphasized the word occasional, was exaggerated by the foreign correspondents living in Berlin. Now there was the newspaper man who deliberately the stories of atrocities against Jews for whatever reason. Remember, he's living in Germany this time as anti nazia, former prime minister of Germany chancellor. He's what witnessing it. You are silent, of course, because you've never heard this before. Bruning, your view about Bruning is probably quite different. In the spring of 1933, foreign correspondents reported that the river spray was covered with the corpses of murdered Jews. And at that time, hardly any Jews except the leaders of the communist party and 2 or 3 leaders of the social democratic party had ever been attacked. Well, what happened in the rice for a star now? We do know that there were an appalling problem that night, November 1938. November 1938, these are gaps in our knowledge really because we know the results, but we don't know the causes. And it was Winston Churchill, my main character this evening, who said, the job of a historian is to find out what happened and why. Well, we know what happened that night. We know that nameless hands wearing Nazi uniforms or not wearing Nazi uniforms burned down synagogues and destroyed thousands of US shops and murdered 91 Jews, an appalling atrocity against the Jewish people in Germany. Who are not really sure who did it because it has never really properly been investigated. The only documents in the archives show the top Nazis frantically peddling all night, sending out telegrams trying to stop the madness. Here, for example, Rudolf Hess. Now I've read this one out before. I make no apology. 3 lines. Again, on the headed note paper of Rudolf Hess, deputy of Hitler. In other words, the numbers 2 men under Hitler issued that same night, November 10, 1938, on express orders from the very highest level, and that can only be Hitler himself, there are to be no outrageous or acts of arson whatsoever against the Jewish people under any circumstances. Those telegrams went out all night long throughout Germany, but it was too late, of course. The damage had been done. And I could only begin to hint at who may have been responsible by reading out or rather paraphrasing what wrote in the report that he wrote in November 1937. Here we are. Palestine. You don't know this but Adolf Eichmann went to Palestine, the modern state of Israel in November 1937 at the invitation of the Zionist leaders. And when he came back, he reported on the secret conversations he had. I've got a 37 page report on it here. November 1937. He reported on the secret conversations that he had with the leading Zionist underground members, the gangsters and terrorists who subsequently became ministers in the subsequent state that was created in 1948. And he talked with leaders of the Haganah and the leaders of the stern gang and he came back and he wrote this report. And he said that they were complaining to him, a, about quality of Jews who were coming to Palestine from Germany saying they were, and they didn't want to take and they didn't want to take part in the construction job, the important job of constructing the new state. And they were complaining to him, and he says his verbatim report about the lack of persecution in Germany and suggesting or hinting that if you stepped up the screw, if you turn the screw a bit on the Jews in Nazi Germany, that will do us a favor because that will bring more people out here to Palestine. And Bruning said the same thing in this document I read earlier, the 19 43 report. Isn't it extraordinary, he said, that although we're now told about all this persecution, hardly any actually left Germany until 1938. So we should really start asking important questions about that gap in our knowledge. Who really was at the back of the anti Jewish pogroms? The fall in the process started in 1938. And if we then go one stage further and look at how the actual Holocaust began, there's no doubt at all that thousands and thousands of Jews were most brutally murdered. And I mentioned it quite simply because not only I wanted to associate myself from any kind of suggestion that there was no crime, and we all accept that and that there were awful crimes committed not only against the Jews but against large numbers of minorities. And of course, the German citizens, if anybody deserves a monument erected to them for their bravery, I think it's the German civilian population of whom we killed burned alive 2,000,000 in the war years. So they got atrocities on every side. It's important to bear that kind of fact in mind because people say, well, if there was no gas chamber, and I must say quite frankly that having attended the Anzendor trial in Toronto last April, having seen the evidence of the laboratories which was going to be submitted at that trial by which the judge ruled was not to be submitted, so it never came out and opened and it never went into the newspapers, I became convinced and I became, I can only describe myself, a hardcore mum believer. A hardcore mum believer that there's any gas chamber in those countries. It has become something of an intellectual challenge for me now as a historian already coming under very severe attack to try and work out now how to convince my fellow historians that they too must start revising their opinions because this is already very late in the day. This has become almost a religion, investigating the truth of Auschwitz, Treblinka, these awful camps where very brutal treatment was certainly immediate out to the prisoners has become something like sacred, something like trampling on a holy burial ground. You mustn't do it. And the thought that Ernst and his men went there a year ago with buckets and chisels and spades and chiseled out bits of the inside of the so called gas chambers and sent these fragments to American Laboratories for analysis is almost too war for to contemplate. It's like somebody going well, it's rather like the analysis of the Holy Shroud of Turin, carrying out the most modern carbon dating techniques on a shroud that's been around for several 100 years at a time when nobody ever knew about carbon dating techniques. So something's sacrilegious. But also I have to say that as a historian, I'm rather ashamed that it never occurred to me to carry out the kind of tests on the building that I demanded in 1983 should be carried out on the Adolph Hitler diaries which eventually resulted now being exposed. I demanded that the Adarai should be subjected to paper test, glue, ink, pipe, cover. Everything should be analyzed to see if it had whiteness, wet strength additive, all these modern additives that go in the paper and glue and ink. The chemical test should be carried out. But it's interesting, you see, because although I demanded those little minute tests in the Adolph Hitler diaries, even I didn't stop the most glaring logical fact. We should have told everybody that the thing was fake. 3 days after I exposed the diaries at the Stern's press conference in April 1943, I took part in a television program across all Germany, broadcast on Beethbarden. And sitting across the table from me with chief editor of Der Stern Magazine, taped up on the table between us were the 62 adult Hitler diaries. They looked very convincing. The handwriting was Hitler's. The content was Hitler's. They swore that it was Hitler's. They had paid $6,000,000 for the diaries. So the kind of money that nowadays, governments offer on the head of an author. Der Stern had paid to buy that. So prima facie, they looked genuine but it never occurred to me to say, wait a minute. They're all identical. All identical diaries. This meant that back in 1920 something, Adolf Hitler went into his local w h Smith and said, I want to have 60 two diaries, please. He's been trying to write a diary. It's so big you overlook it. And it's the big things that have got overlooked in the whole implausible story of whatever is now described as the holocaust. You're going to round up millions of people, and you're gonna kill them. Them. But before you kill them, you're going to ship them 1500 miles away to somewhere else and do it. It doesn't make sense because the mere act of shipping them across Europe is going to alert the whole population to what's going on. And if you're going to kill them anyway, why not do it far more conveniently outside Amsterdam or Brussels or wherever you're rounding them up, just the same as they rounded up these people outside Riga and shot them in the outskirts of that town. If you're going to kill them anyway, then why the transportation movement? It's such a big and logical question. Nobody it. Nobody has answered it. And this brings me back to that obnoxious character here in Canada who set that particular ball rolling. Ernst Zundel is obnoxious, unfortunately. He's obnoxious and he's a loud mouth and he's a self publicist and he's even more obnoxious now because he's going to be proven right. There's no way that he can't win this particular battle. He's done his tests properly. He's carried out the most expensive and costly tests on the fabric of those buildings in Poland at great risk to his team who went over there and under the very noses of the Polish sentries hammered away with hammer and chisel, getting bits of this holy shrine, 20 kilograms of it and bringing it back. And I've seen laboratory tests, and I know enough science and chemistry having studied at university to know that we're talking here, unlike history, where opinions cut, we're talking here about an exact science. You can't fake laboratory tests. The historians have now got to convince me and explain to me how it's possible to kill 100 of people in a room with hydrogen cyanide gas and have not the slightest trace of that gas remaining in the fabric. He's carried out most detailed tests in other buildings on those sites where we all know, and this is common ground that hydrogen cyanide gas was used in the disinfectation chambers, used to disinfect the prisoners clothing and the soldiers clothing too, used to disinfect his clothing from the lice plague that was bringing typhus right across Europe from 1942 onwards. And in those walls, you'll find 10 15 milligrams of cyanide per kilogram of substance. So you find huge quantities of cyanide just where you'd expect to find it but not in the suspect chambers. And the other historians have got to convince me why this is so. They've got to explain to me well, they did. They had a good attempt in Berkeley. Remember, I spoke there 10 days ago, and a couple of historians sitting in the front row, they know the trouble they're in already. One of them stood up in question time and said, Mr. Irving, on the point of information I want you to know that we now no longer believe that the Nazis use cyanide or cyclone b or hydrogen cyanide. They were using carbon monoxide in the gas generator. Well, I too jeered when I heard that because this means that here we are 47 years later or so, and they are frantically backtracking on a story that they've had a good run for their money with over the last 40 or 50 years. And it's a great tragedy because it is a tragedy what happened to the Jews and there's no denying it. It shouldn't have happened. None of these mass killings should have occurred. Back in 1963, I coined the word inausenticide, the real crime of World War 2 and of subsequent wars like the Korean War and even more so the Vietnam War. It isn't the killing of Jews or any particular minority as such. It's the killing of innocent people. This was the time of World War II. But somehow somehow they somehow they seem to have cornered the market. And the Jews themselves are slightly embarrassed about this. In Britain, the chief rabbi, Sir Emmanuel Jakobowitz, now Lord Jakobowitz, recently announced to the newspapers and you probably haven't seen it said over here, he said the Holocaust has regrettably become big business. It's become big business for Hollywood, for the movie companies, for scriptwriters, the screenwriters. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I've talked to you this evening about the gaps in our knowledge. It's not an easy job as you can imagine, and I'm sure that it's going to be a lot more difficult as time goes on. I'm going to write a book about it eventually. We've done a lot of a lot of work on this particular matter. I shall write a book probably on the archaeology of Auschwitz 5 or 6 years down the line. It will undoubtedly be the last book I write. We've got the work. We've got the photographs of Auschwitz. I'm having the photographs reinterpreted by the Royal Air Force. They supplied me with expert interpreters with the most modern equipment, whereby you can see the people walking on the ground, you can see the barbed wire strands. The modern equipment is so fantastically good. And I'm not in any illusions as to the kind of problems I'm going to be in. After my Hitler book was published in 1977, published by the most reputable publishers, all my books We got some at the back there. All my books are published by the world's most reputable publishers. After that book, I had my front door sledgehammered in. A printing worker's burned to the ground. I had people raiding me disguised as post office engineers. They all came from the same underground organization in Britain, and they all went to prison for it because they all got caught. They too were blithering idiots. They all got caught and they went to prison for it. I'm certain that things will get harder. But my message to you is, when you see things in the newspapers, don't take them even in Canada for being necessarily true. I remember when I arrived in Canada 3 years ago to begin my 1st cross Canada speaking tour and I was met in Vancouver by a gentleman who said, mister Irving, your speech here in Vancouver is going to be chaired. We're very fortunate by Doug Christie, who was the attorney for Mr. Aaron Zundel. And at that time, I was ashamed to say I was so shocked at the notion of being linked in any way with Zundel and with Doug Christie that I demanded. I phoned Australia straight away, and I said, listen. I don't want Doug Christie to share this. It's got to be somebody else. We're really handing my head to the journalist on a peck doing that. And then when I arrived in Toronto 5 or 6 days later, having spoken in Chile, Wakalana and so on all the way across Canada, arrived here at the airport driving along QEW, My the passenger in the front seat addressed the driver and he said, well, Ernst, I think we're going to have to go.' I thought, well, Ernst?' It was Ernst and I picked me up at the airport and I said, my god. Have I been recognized? And I just want to give that as an example to you as the way that the press can assassinate a character if they want to. And I don't blame the journalists because they know no better, really. They they believe that anybody who is mad enough to say there were no gas chambers or to question accepted tenets of of belief and almost religious belief is not really worthy of anything but contempt. It is going to be a very, very hard job, possibly an impossible job for mister Zundel to restore his reputation in this country if he's allowed to stay in this country. And that, of course, is an open question. I'm not making any kind of plea for you. It would improper to do so here. You are Canadians. The pleas have to come from you. I'm an Englishman, but I regard my job as an English historian as the same as it has always been, to preach the one creed that truth is indivisible. You can't have truth for these people, but not truth for those. There's only one
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Ernst Zündel debates Sabina Citron on the topic of The Holocaust. https://t.co/0kAEcEuV5F

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In this video, a photographer and publisher named Ernest Zundel claims that the Holocaust is a myth and denies the death of 6 million Jews. He argues that the German government was pressured by Zionists and occupation governments to pay reparations. However, Sabina Citron, a Holocaust survivor and founder of the Holocaust Remembrance Association, refutes Zundel's claims and explains that Holocaust denial is a form of propaganda used to whitewash Nazi crimes. She emphasizes the importance of remembering the millions of innocent civilians, both Jews and non-Jews, who died in concentration camps. The discussion also covers hate literature and the legal implications of Zundel's activities. Other speakers in the video provide evidence of the planned genocide and atrocities committed by the Nazis, with one survivor sharing a personal account of witnessing Jews being shot and buried in a mass grave. The conversation also touches on topics such as freedom of speech, censorship, and the dangers of hate propaganda. The speakers express contrasting views, with some supporting Holocaust denial and others vehemently opposing it.
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Speaker 0: Good morning. Ernest Zundel, photographer, publisher from Toronto. You claim, mister Zundel, that the holocaust in which 6,000,000 people died, many of them Jews, most of them Jews, is a myth. Why why do you why do you push this? I don't Why is this campaign? Speaker 1: I don't push it. I defend my ethnic group and my native country against the most massive propaganda lie that still lingers on from the 2nd World war. It is an extortion racket perpetrated against the German people which has netted the Zionists already over a 100,000,000,000 German marks. It is very profitable and the racket is cloaked in humanity and human things. I do wanna tie it into your lead into the story with the Anne Frank diary. I've got the book here. Speaker 0: Yep. Speaker 1: Anne Frank diary of hopes. I have your document by the German forensic section of the Bundes criminaland which has tested in 1980. Many sheets of the 3 diaries and I came up with saying that, they were written many parts in ballpoint pen ink, which only came on the market in 1951. So the writer of the diary was alive in 1951. So either Anne wasn't the writer or she was alive and the dead. Alright. Let's get back to this German government document. Speaker 0: Let's get back to this myth that you say That 6,000,000 people, most of them Jews, did not die. Speaker 1: Good. Very easy to prove. There were no 6,000,000 Jews in the areas occupied by Nazi Germany. The death German government Speaker 0: Why did the German government, the West German government, pay all these 1,000,000,000 of of, Deutschmarks in reparation if it did not feel that there was some validity? Speaker 1: Number 1, the West German government is a christening government. It was installed by the allied occupying authorities. It was handpicked, and, all opposition parties that could have represented Germany properly were banned from exercising their political rights. Millions of Germans had lost their rights to vote. The governing party, the ruling elite in Germany, the National Socialist Government, and its organizations were banned from the democratic process. What we are having in West Germany is what we're having in East Germany, is what we're having in Poland, Hungary, Latvia, and so on, occupation governments, and you don't see the Latvians or the Ukrainians or the Hungarians rebelling too much against the Soviet Union and it's the same thing in West Germany. You must also understand that the Germans were not allowed to trade on the international markets until the military governor of Germany, John J. McCloy, forced Konrad Adenauer to sign quasi a confession of for the German nation that they were guilty of murdering millions of Jews until the Treaty of Luxembourg was signed, the German government published a handbook until 1952 in in which it said that only 300 some 1000 people died in German concentration camps including Jews. Speaker 0: Alright. Mister Zundel, when we get back, you will meet missus Sabina Citron who is, from the Holocaust Remembrance Association. She's one of the founders and a survivor of Auschwitz. We'll be back. The Cherrington crew flew to Europe through the courtesy of Ward Air. Good morning, miss, Citron. You want to stop Ernst Zungle. Stop him mailing stuff all over the world. What do you have to say to the things that he said before that commercial break about the myth? Speaker 2: Well, I would like to say from the outset that I didn't come here to engage in a polemic with this, person. There's no way that I'm going to engage in that. I will touch on the things that You've Speaker 0: just said, mister, let, mister Zunnel let let him, let her answer. Speaker 2: That he referred to, but I'm going to speak to you and to your audience but not directly to this person. I think it's demeaning even to to to credit any of the rantings with you know with an answer. You know he took his mantras very very seriously both Hitler and Goebbels felt that the the greater the lie the most likely people are to believe it. And if you repeat a lie often enough, people will eventually believe it. And this is apparently, the way this man is thinking and operating. But, see, in order to understand what, this propaganda is trying to do, one has to also, be, quite familiar with the propaganda of Hitler and Goebbels and, at the same time, follow it for some time in order to to come up with a pattern. You see, when I first saw some of the things, I couldn't quite understand what was happening. The outrageous claims, of course, are so, you know, concocted that, you know, one one is just taken aback. You know, how do you respond to that? Elie Wiesel, when when he was trying to deal with this problem all that he could come up with and he is a poet was, you know, the Jewish word of suffering. Now how do you respond to this kind of of of thing? I mean it wasn't enough. The Jews were were massacred by the by the millions and and to have to face after something like that. But obviously you know if you are if you have seen some of these things and you have followed it for some years then a pattern begins to emerge. Number 1, what this propaganda is trying to do is to, whitewash Nazi crimes, okay, And equate these crimes with other crimes so that their crime become lesser. In other words, if there was no holocaust, they couldn't have been any any Nazi war criminals if there were no Nazi war criminals therefore, you know, there there was no problem and therefore, the, you know, Nazis didn't perpetrate any any crimes and if there were some, you know, they claimed that some people did suffer but they died of natural causes well, you know, the allies also, or so they alleged committed certain things therefore the record is even and therefore there is nothing much, to worry about because, you know, they did and at the same time they are trying to portray themselves as though the Nazi regime was merely another combatant in the 2nd world war. They were not the aggressors. They did not conquer Europe. They did not send to slave labor, all the people of Europe, not just the Jews. You know, people tend to forget that it wasn't just 6,000,000 Jews, was 11 1,000,000 innocent civilians who went to their death, through Auschwitz and other death camps. And there were thousands upon thousands of people from Belgium, France, Holland, East Europe, you name it who were sent to slave labor camps, who are not Jews. This the question is also being forgotten completely. So you know, what this person is trying to do is to appeal in different ways to different people and exploiting different with different weaknesses and in different part of society. He speaks one way to the Polish community, another way to the other ethnic East European Communities and still another to, the North American Canadians Americans and still another to the German people. And I would imagine that it isn't the Germans in general that he's speaking to but he's speaking to his comrades and and and and as it were. Speaker 1: All How did they Alright. Yeah. It's 7 minutes. Speaker 0: Don't worry. You had 5. Go on. Speaker 1: Good. First of all, missus Citron and I have met before. Missus Citron was responsible for having my mailing rights revoked through a fraudulent charge to the Canadian government authorities. She was in Ottawa for 5 days of postal hearings. She was represented by counsel. They were at all times at least 3 lawyers present of from the Jewish side. They hired a communications expert which the government of Canada took over, all my writings were translated at the expense of the taxpayers of Canada, they were judged, looked at, I was cross examined by the Jewish side, by the Zionist side, I was cross examined by the government of Canada side for 5 solid days resulting in 741 pages of testimony. After those postal hearings this quasi judicial body called an administrative court, the postal, review board decided that they were wrong and that I had a right to get my mail rights back in a time. Speaker 0: How long did you use your mailing lose your mailing Speaker 1: 1 year. No. I I'm a man that communicates ideas. During that time, I stood to be jailed for 5 years if I had broken that postal ban and missus Citron was responsible for a vicious act of censorship not in the public debate but snug around like a bloody thief behind our back to censor me and now that she has lost and now that she has lost she can't even lose graciously. They're back at it again, now they want to change the loss. And I want to close off with her famous remark about Hitler saying that that the bigger the lie you tell and so on, well, I have to trust I was I knew her tactic. Menkampf, 1943 edition page 230 and 231 Hitler concludes about the technique. Therefore, something of even the most insolent lie will always remain and stick. The foremost connoisseurs of this truth regarding the possibilities in the use of falsehood and slander have always been the Jews, for after all their whole existence is based on a simple great lie to wit that they are religious community while actually they are raised now. You attribute every Zionist propagandist has always said the Nazis practice the big lie and quoted. There is the quote in. They are twisting it around like most other things they're doing. Speaker 0: Alright. What about the hate literature, Joanne? Joanne Cura. She's a lawyer, and she's a member of the Ontario Advisory Council on Multicultural and Citizenship. Is this man pumping out hate literature? Speaker 3: I think that there there can be no doubt that there's a definition of hate literature which would include, the type of material that mister Zungle is putting out. But my concern is, if I may, first of all, as a lawyer I find it odd that you would call going to the actual body that makes decisions about mailing rights and call that sneaking around. It seems to me that that's entirely the appropriate course of action and you went back to that board didn't you? To have your rights determined by the board. So it's odd that you would describe it that way because that's in fact the body that deals with the granting and revocation of right, is it not? Speaker 1: The minister using her ministerial fiat deprived me of my mailing rights Mhmm. Without trial for 1 year Yes. Which was ruinous to my reputation and also to my business. Speaker 3: Do you call Speaker 2: this justice? Speaker 0: Do you Speaker 1: call this justice? Speaker 3: If it's within the laws Speaker 2: of our country. Speaker 1: It's after the fact. I should have been tried first and then my mailing was taken away. In Canada, we are innocent until proven guilty. I was found guilty 1500 scientists were demonstrating outside my home before the trial was even in. Speaker 3: There was no trial you just said that you're trial. Speaker 1: It was a judicial it was a judicial review which is tandem on to a court and therefore it was a trial. Speaker 0: What about the West German police who picked up all your stuff in West Germany and said that it was, Nazi propaganda material? Speaker 1: I was cleared in the district court of Stuttgart after 1 year's investigation, after again, people like miss the friend of missus Citron, the Simon Wiesenthal complaint to the German authorities that I lost my postal checking account. My bank account was seized in West Germany by the police. All the donors were photographed, the addresses, and all these homes were raided in the largest police raid in Western German history. After 1 year of examining all the material which was was seized during those raids, I was found innocent. There was not enough evidence. Therefore, it never went to trial. And the hate mongers in Germany from the Zionist side appealed this turn down and were turned down again. So I stand before you once again victimized in West Germany, totally cleared after 1 year. Speaker 0: You are not allowed to distribute your stuff in West Germany. Speaker 1: I certainly do. And my the West German government paid all my legal expenses and restored my bank account and apologized. Speaker 0: Alright. 645-3211 is our number. If you're dining from out of town, wanna get in on this conversation, 645-3211 and make it collect. We'll be back in moments. We have reached the consul general for the Federal Republic of Germany, doctor Ernst Koch. Good morning, doctor. How are you? Speaker 4: Fine. Thank you. How are you, Tom? Speaker 0: Not bad. We, have just heard mister Ernst Zundel call your the government that you represent a government. And that's why this government has paid all the reparations to Israel because of the holocaust. What do you say to that, sir? Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what you understand by quizzling government. You know? We are of the opinion that, the crimes committed by the Nazis against the Jews require a recompetization morally and also on the materialistic side. And, all federal government starting with federal chancellor until today have shared this opinion. So, I don't see any rejectification for the assertion you just mentioned. Speaker 0: Have you asked the Canadian government to stop, mister Zundel's, shipments of literature and whatnot to to West Germany? Speaker 4: No. Not that I know of. Speaker 0: Do you have any questions for for for the council? Mister Zundel. Speaker 1: You know, doctor Koch, every government that imposes an occupation usually has its. Are you familiar with the Uber Leidungs for Prague and with the Treaty of Luxembourg? Speaker 4: Yes. Of course. Speaker 1: Are you are you aware Yeah. How the Zionist pressured the German government for these reparations payments and Speaker 2: how No. Speaker 4: I'm not aware. Speaker 1: You're not aware of that? Speaker 4: I'm not aware and I'm not willing to discuss that with you. Speaker 1: Then I recommend to you some books put out by some Jewish authors called Germany's road to Israel for instance, in which they spill all the details. Speaker 0: Doctor Koch, is mister Zondel the main source of this Nazi propaganda material coming into Europe and going to what many many other countries of the world? Is he the main one? Speaker 4: Well, then I don't know whether he's the main one. Speaker 0: What are are you concerned in in in the West German Republic about the the rise of Nazism? I read of gangs of youths going around, especially in football matches. Speaker 4: Well, we are concerned with an extent, but only to a limited extent because, when you look at the figures during the recent elections Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 4: They indicate very clearly that this movement is not in the upswing on the political side. We have the in Germany, the main representative is the National German Democratic Party. And this party received in 1976 in the federal election 0.3% of the votes. And in 1980 and in the recent election in on the 6th March of this year, they received each time 0.2% of the votes. So, this is not a very disquieting development, although we know we have some problems with the hardcore of these people. Speaker 0: How about the cons continuing search by the West German government and other agencies for former Nazis? Is this being given the priority you feel that, that it that it deserves? Speaker 4: Oh, yes. Of course. It did. But, you know, it is very difficult now to bring them to court after 40 years, which have elapsed since these terrible events. Speaker 0: Do you have any questions, missus Citron, for the West German Council? This is, missus Sabina Citron of the Holocaust Remembrance Association. Yeah. Speaker 2: Yes. I would like to ask whether in fact this person was exonerated or whether, he did not, he is not subject to German law. Speaker 0: You're talking about Ernst Zungel? Yes. Did you hear that, Speaker 4: mister I didn't get that. Speaker 2: I'll repeat myself. The person across was claiming that he was exonerated of distributing or supplying Nazi propaganda to Germany. Now I have seen some of that propaganda and it certainly is Nazi propaganda because there are tapes of Hitler and Goebbels and other such, which is clearly Nazi propaganda. Now was he exonerated under German law or was he some simply not subject to German Speaker 4: law? Well, he is there was a preliminary proceeding in, 82 and introduced by the public prosecutor's office in Stuttgart, but, the local car the local court has refused to open the trial, with the argument that the simple denial of the crimes committed against Jews by the Nazis is not punishable. Speaker 2: This is not the question. Here, it is punishable because he is insulting the good name of Jews and, you know, such books as the Jewish Swindle are the title in itself is is is libel and slander and character defamation but I'm referring to some of the other things that he is selling to west Germany namely tapes of Hitler are different types of of, Nazi propaganda, Nazi marches, etcetera. This is clearly Nazi propaganda. I'm not referring to the books. I don't know how your law looks at that but certainly the the tapes which are which have Hitler's speeches, Goebel's speeches, this is clearly against West German law as I understand it. Speaker 4: Well, miss Titon, I only can refer to what the court said. You know, we have an independent system of of courts, and they have decided in the case of this man you just mentioned the way I have explained it to you. I I can't tell you more than that. I cannot Absolutely. You know? Thank you. Speaker 0: Alright. Mister Zuniga, do you have something to say? Speaker 1: Yeah. Missus missus, Citroen knows as much about German law as he obviously knows about Canadian law. I was specifically cleared on 2 very important points. 1 is unconstitutional activities and the promotion of the revival of Nazism, under the German criminal code, and also the spreading of hate literature. And the trial verdict says very simply, the man cannot be charged with the distribution, I have the court verdict here, I will get it during a commercial and I'll read it to you. I want and doctor Koch knows that very well. Number 2, she knows nothing about West German of the West German Criminal Code, A mere speech, a historical recording, a a book like Mancom, for instance, which is sold in every bookstore in Toronto, you can purchase in West Germany. It is absolutely legal. Anything to do with uncensored history is not forbidden as it should not be. Do you Speaker 0: have any comment, mister counsel? Speaker 4: No. I don't. Speaker 0: Alright, sir. Thank you very much for taking the time. Speaker 4: You're welcome. Speaker 0: Thank you. We'll take a break. We'll be back. We have on the line now, Alan Borovoy, well known leader of the Civil Liberties Association. Good morning, mister Borovoy. Long time since I've spoken to you. Speaker 5: That's right. I've missed you. Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Speaker 0: What do you think of all this question, this debate about this hate literature, Alan? Speaker 5: Well, I I'm concerned about any toughening up of the legislation, which I have long believed is an unwise piece of legislation. I think the problem you have with a law like this is that it simply is not possible to draft the law so precisely that you're going to nail the kind of racists that you'd like to get without simultaneously running a terrific risk of catching a lot of other people in the same net. Speaker 0: Give us an example, Alan. Speaker 1: Well, as Speaker 5: a matter of fact, one example flows right out of the experience we've had with the hate propaganda legislation. A number of years ago, some young activists were out distributing literature at the Shriners Parade in Toronto. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 5: The literature bore the words Yankee go home. And for that, the police arrested them on a charge of distributing hate propaganda. And while the Crown attorney had the good sense later on to withdraw the charge, in the meantime, their free speech rights were suppressed, and they spent the better part of a day in jail. That's a risk which I don't think a democratic society ought to take against people of that kind. And that's what happens with laws like this because you can't draft it precisely. Speaker 0: So there's got to be there are there will be people who can get away with, with mayhem, so to speak, because of the rights of the of the majority. Is that what you're saying? Speaker 5: No. I think what it says is that you've always got to evaluate the dangers that you face. At the moment in Canada, the kind of racists who are putting out some of this vile literature, fortunately, are hovering on the periphery of our society. They're marginal creeps. They haven't really made an impact on our society. And if I have to choose then between going gung ho to get them, and in the course of doing it, imperiling the freedoms of a lot of other people, I'm saying it's not worth it. Now there may be a point where I might balance the risks differently, but it in today's community, it just, in my view, doesn't make sense. Speaker 0: Thank you very much, Alan, for talking with us. Speaker 1: Good to talk Speaker 0: to you. Bye bye. Bye. Missus Citron, you have something to say about that? Speaker 2: I definitely have. First of all, the the example which mister Bolivoy gave, Yankee go home. It's not threatening to anyone. The Americans are not a minority and they have never been attacked the way the Jews have been attacked throughout history and they have no concern to their image, I mean any judge could very easily see that and and we could even if there was a judge and a jury they could very easily dismiss that sort of thing. We are talking about incitement to hatred and violence against minorities and Jews have suffered sufficiently under under hate, propaganda which goes back many many centuries and they have been subjected to different, forms of discrimination and persecution for centuries. We, after the holocaust, do not choose any longer to accept the fact that society cannot function except where antisemitism exists. We no longer want that sort of thing. I don't want to be attacked ever again. My good name should not be tarnished ever again by anybody. I have the same rights as anybody else in this community and I will not permit anyone to use slander and character defamation against me. Certainly every every person in this community has the same right and I consider my myself completely emancipated and I have that right. But I Speaker 0: wanted to say something very quickly about, Mr. Zundel's remarks about the postmaster general. Speaker 2: Yes. It's very interesting. It seems to me, that that my experience there in Ottawa was was was very very useful because it became very clear that truth has nothing to do with this man's activity. He marched in with with a whole, wagon of hate propaganda holding a red covered copy of mind under his arm and and proclaimed himself to be a man who is against violence, a conscientious objector who came to Canada because he was avoiding the draft. And a lot of other things like that came out during those proceedings in Ottawa. He has, it was pointed out to him if you are a country and just object to what have you done upon arrival and cannot go immediately to a person who is unknown, who was at that time a known, Nazi, namely Adrian Arcand. He he no longer is alive. A number of other things have been pointed out namely that this man wrote a book, the Hitler we loved and why, a book which he has denied writing. He wrote it under a pseudonym, a pen name, a Christophe Friedrich. He has written a number of other things under that name which clearly identifies him as a rabid racist who who expands the same kind of of of of, thing as the Nazis themselves did and he portrayed himself, self, you know, under oath, etcetera as a as a conscientious objector. Truth has nothing to do with all the activities of this man. Speaker 0: Ernst Schindler, are you a Nazi? Speaker 1: No. I'm a Nazi. I admire Adolf Hitler for being a tremendous leader of the German people and, I'm not alone in that. After all, I elected him year after year in plebiscites in the elections. He gained his power democratically. And John Tolan, the historian who has written 5 books, some totaling up to 2,000 pages in double issues, said that if Adolf Hitler had died in 1938, he would have entered the pages of European history as the greatest European statement statesman of his time. Now, I make no apologies for that, that the, Zionist community and many Jews in North America just adore Menahem Begin and now they adore Yitzhak Shamir, known terrorists and murderers. So, you know if if they can admire their murderers why can't I add, say Adolf Hitler was a great genius. Also as to her research once again it's a little lacking as it was always, I met Adria Arkaim 1962 as a journalist interviewing him for the first time. That was 3 years after I came to Canada. Speaker 0: Were you a conscientious objector Speaker 1: I saw that the military draft was coming up, I believed in the holocaust, I believed the Germans killed all those Jews just because they were Jews. And I didn't want to have nothing to do with a country that would do that. And so I when the when the American occupation government pressured the German christling government into using my body again in an in an allied uniform this time using Nazi generals in the West German army but now they were they're Chrislings. I decided I'm gonna go some place where there is no army and Canada was the only country in the whole world where a young man with a troubled conscience and a pacifist could go to. And mrs. Ciccone, I wanna tell you, I am still a pacifist today. I have never advocated violence, I've been completely cleared of that. But aren't you frightened as a pacifist, mister Zunkel, that your writings, your mailings might rekindle all this business? Mister Cherrington, I have been a writer, a freelance writer for 20 years. Not a single hair has been twisted or hurt on a Jewish head. I have defended my ethnic group against massive sinist slander by people such as Mordechai Richler who said in an advert in in a in a in a Toronto Star interview that the Germans boiled Jewish babies in the fat of their parents. You know, and and a full page story by another holocaust survivor who said she was forced in Auschwitz to eat human stew. No. I defend my ethnic group. I came here believing in the holocaust in all the lies that are being told that are supposedly history. You guys are saying in the beginning we are gonna rewrite history. I'm not rewriting you were gonna write. No. I'm not rewriting history. I'm trying to write history. What we have now is World War 2 hate propaganda posing as history. This is fake history. It has nothing to do with history. Speaker 0: Then why hasn't there been a massive resurgence of your kind of philosophy in in West Germany? Speaker 1: Mister Charrington, I have known you since 1961 when you were first on CK Jam in Montreal. You know my career. Would any normal person stick his head out like me and get trampled on, get his postal rights, banned, get himself banned in front of government, get accused by missus Cipron to be something a tandem amount to the devil is ridiculous. Of course, regular people don't go into this. They have families to raise, mortgages to pay. Only I can afford to do it so far. We'll be back. Speaker 0: Now you say you're you're a conscientious objector, mister Zundel, in an interview with the, Dick Chapman of the Sun, Toronto Sun. Now, missus, Citron gave this to me. The bond government has never been legitimized by the people. We would certainly execute several 100 of the crop of leaders in West Germany. That's right. A pacifist? Speaker 1: Of course. That just means every pacifist is a patsy, Speaker 0: you know. But when when does a pacifist turn to executing? Speaker 1: I'm a militant pacifist. When I when I talked about pacifism, it was strictly in the military sense. Speaker 0: In the military sense? Speaker 1: Absolutely. Traitors. Speaker 2: A new term? Speaker 1: You know, traitors are a totally different thing. Speaker 0: What do I have? A new term? Speaker 2: A new term. Yes. Military pacifism. Have you ever heard that before? Speaker 0: No. I can't say Speaker 1: I have. Well, there you go. I always tell you I was creative. Speaker 0: Right. Let's find out what the taxpayers have to say. Charington, hello. Thank you for waiting. Good morning. Speaker 6: Mister Charington. Yeah. I'm sitting here, shaking like a leaf listening to this, mister Sundel read from Mein Kampf. It's horrifying. I I was in a museum at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Israel 2 years ago where they where they have all sorts of, testaments that the that the Holocaust existed, the death camps. There's articles of clothing, photographs that mister Zundel would probably say were retouched, of of piles of of human hair, and and of of of dead bodies, just piles of them just sitting there. Testimony exists from Eichmann himself that he, said that cyclone b and accepted cyclone b as the perfect, element to help the final solution get on its way, that odorless gas that killed so many in those gas chambers. 3 years ago, there was a holocaust survivors, meeting at the Wailing Wall in Israel. I'm sure missus Citron would back me up on the exact date year of that. But, I mean, where these survivors got together and, shared their experiences, it was moving. How could that be propaganda? Alright. Speaker 0: Hold it. What what what do you answer to that, mister Zundel? Speaker 1: Frank Wallace, an American of, Polish German background, was accused by 11 eyewitnesses, 11 survivors in a courtroom in the United States under oath of the most vicious, heinous crimes. He was deprived of his passport. He was gonna be deported. For 3 years, this man's life was turned into hell by survivors and eyewitnesses. It only turned out after 1 year of appeal hearings that his passport was given back to him, and it turned out that 9 of the 11 eyewitnesses and survivors did not live in Poland, did never see the village where the crimes were supposed have been committed, yet they knew the hour, the time, the day, the house number, the man's uniform, and so on. Now they were lying, and many many many of those people are lying for profit, lying because they like to get in front of a television camera, the German government had no policy of genocide against Jews or anybody else, and nobody ever died in the German gas chamber except lice. The only person died in a gas chamber, he died in the United States. That's where they had gas chambers. The Germans never executed people with gas. Speaker 0: This is a talk. Speaker 2: It's shocking business. Truth or it's I happen I happen to know a little bit about Frank Valas because, the, one of the witnesses that testified against Frank Valas happens to be a friend of mine who lives in Jerusalem and, she was in Kelsey where Frank Valas Could Speaker 0: you take the hand? Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Speaker 2: Well, Frank Valas was has, has committed, the crimes that were alleged. I personally was in Kelsey, but I didn't know Frank Valas. I didn't know a man to whom she referred to as being his companion and I know something about that man. His name was Rumpel. He was known by everybody as as as a sadistic murderer. He would take out, the best looking, Jewish women and he would walk them along the street and shoot them as they were walking. He was known for that. Now Frank Valas according to this friend of mine was a companion of this man. I as I said I personally don't know anything about Frank Wallace because I I have not seen the man. But the way, this person is is is describing Frank Wallace as an innocent human being who was wrongly accused is very curious because, he is saying that he as a, which is which is an ethnic German in Poland, was sent to a a a slave labor camp in in Germany which is incredible because everyone who knows anything about the treatment of Volksdeutsche during the world, these these were the people who were denouncing the Jews and they were hand in glove with the gestapo. So to claim that this man really wasn't who who my friend says that he was because he actually worked on a farm in in in Germany during during the Nazi period that he was sent or volunteered for farm work as as some other people were sent, forcibly to do slave labor work. Okay. Alright. Hold it. Speaker 0: Yeah. Any other comment, mister Collin? Speaker 4: Mister chair? Yeah. All Speaker 6: I could say is that I'm a student. And, I just hope that if we're a strong enough country to get mister Roca out of this country, I just hope that mister Zundel is next. Anybody that can purge our history like that doesn't deserve to be a Canadian citizen. Speaker 0: What do you say to that, Ernst? Speaker 1: Emotion. He's just exercising his cheek muscles and certainly hasn't got his brain in gear. As to missus, Citroen, I'm very glad she said what she said because we are videotaping the program and she has just, laid herself wide open. Frank Wallace was 17 years old, he proved beyond the shadow of a doubt to United States court that he was never in Poland during the entire war time after he was taken to Germany to work on a farm. So she even now cannot admit defeat. What do you think of a person that stares court trial after court trial, verdict of verdict of innocence in the face and is so hateful that she has to keep slandering people with in windows. But how Speaker 0: can you possibly say that the Germans, the the the Nazi never used furnaces, never used gas? Speaker 1: Oh, I'm glad that you brought that up. You see, you are so How Speaker 0: can you possibly see? Speaker 1: Mister Jenkins, you are so brainwashed, you bring up the furnaces. Yeah. And a crematorium has nothing to do with the gas chamber. Speaker 0: Alright. Speaker 1: No. No. But not all right that that's happening. Speaker 0: The crematorium is to get rid of the the evidence. Speaker 1: Look, I live within, half a mile of the crematorium in Toronto. That's not a crime. No. The the crematoriums in Europe are are very popular. Speaker 0: How about the deliberate starving of people? Speaker 1: So believe me, we were starved and there was nothing Oh, Speaker 0: I'm starving to the point because when I first heard about it, mister Zundel, was when my uncle was one of the first allied people into Belsen. Yeah. Okay. Speaker 1: Oh, I'm glad you And Speaker 0: he told me about this when I was a kid and it shattered his life when he saw thousands of dying, emaciated Speaker 1: people. Mister Charington, Operation Thunderclasp by the United States 8th Air Force knocked out almost 9,000 railroad switching points and everything else. There was no food that could get to those people, not even to the Germans. The German concentration camps suffered towards the end of the war, and if you are on on on a borderline diet, and if you're deprived for 2 or 3 days of food, then you begin to get typhoid and you begin to dehydrate the very bodies in Belton are approved, not of a German crime, of an allied war crime, of fantastic progress. Speaker 0: Well, how come the staff weren't like that, emaciated if they had no food? Speaker 1: Well, look, you feed your soldiers first. You feed certainly your prisoners first. Speaker 0: Couldn't get food there. They got food there for the guards. Speaker 1: 400 guards as compared to 18,000 prisoners naturally. What do you you if any government makes a choice, and the fact is that the Germans, when Belsen, for instance, was surrounded by the allies, they radioed via the International Red Cross. We've got typhoid in this camp due to these conditions. And the British said, please, keep your guards on duty because the whole of the British army including the German civilians would have been affected by this wartime. We're talking about wartime. Speaker 0: Hold it right there. We'll be back. Missus Citron. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: During commercial break you mentioned the word garbage. Are you referring to what, mister Zundel said just prior to that break? Speaker 2: Yes. I certainly do. He also said during the break that he doesn't take kindly to a certain accusations. In 1978, he threatened Mark Bronarkovsky of the of this of the Toronto Sun with a lawsuit for for claiming that he wrote the book, the Hitler we loved and why. At that time, he denied having written that book and he, you know, he wanted to threaten him with a lawsuit. He said we Germans don't take kindly to this kind of libel and slander. Now he has subsequently admitted to having written the book not only that Speaker 1: As an absolute lie, missus Hitron. You give me the instant no. You you give me the instant when I said that the minute right now right now. Speaker 2: He has said during during the hearings in Ottawa that, yes, he used that name, this is his middle name, Christoph Friedrich, and he used that name on on on certain publications. Furthermore, some of his other, attracts have his name. You see, he claimed to have run for prime minister prime minister of Canada, some years ago and he ran as Christophe Friedrich as Christophe Friedrich. Okay? For the for for and he bragged about having run for for the prime minister of Canada. Now you can imagine that he, thinks he is clever but he is not really all that clever because if he could have made such a silly mistake while on the one hand claiming to to to have never written a book about the Hitler we loved and why and on the other hand using the same name that he wrote the book under to run the for the prime minister of Canada and this he has bragged about during during the the hearing in Ottawa. Speaker 0: True or false? Speaker 1: I have have garbled as per usual. Half truths. I have got the postal hearing transcript here, 741 pages. If you wish, we can look it up and find out what I said in Ottawa is very clearly that I contributed pictures which I do quite regularly. I sell advertising agencies, pictures, soundtracks of nazis Speaker 0: What about the chart the the the statements that that that mister Zundel made about about the death camps? You were in Auschwitz. You were a little Speaker 2: girl. Look, there is there are documents, all over the world for anyone with with half an intelligence who can find these documents. I don't credit this man with a great deal of intelligence but surely enough to be able to do some research if he was serious about doing doing, you know, trying to document what has happened. Look, Hitler said in 1930 1939 after having entered Czechoslovakia, that if the Jews are going to start the 2nd world war and remember this was January 30, 1939 when he was preparing to occupy Poland and and to push eastwards to to occupy all of Europe, he has said at that time that if the Jews are going to start a second world war, he will see to it that they that they will be, annihilated. Only people didn't believe it at that time. Now this man is making a similar claim, okay, that the Jews are are will be responsible for the 3rd world war, that there is a a Jewish conspiracy going on, that that they are behind God knows what. They are communist, they are capitalist, they are they are they are everything. The devil incarnate, the similar propaganda to Hitler's propaganda. How how serious can we take this man? Speaker 0: Okay. We've got to take a break. 64 5:30 to 11. We'll be back, talking about this whole question of hate literature, racism, holocaust with our guests in a matter of moments. Cherrington, good afternoon. Speaker 7: Yes. Good afternoon. Yes. I'm wondering with, mister Zundel. He seems to, have a lack of witnesses that, you know, otherwise, he, he seems to have a problem with that. He doesn't seem as if his research is as thorough as it could be. If he had gone to Poland, I know my uncle, for instance, had was in Auschwitz. My uncle was a Roman Catholic Pole. Nothing to do with Jewish at all. Yeah. But he was in charge of loading bodies onto trucks, dead bodies. Truck after truck after truck. And if my uncle was doing that, there must have been many others who were doing the same thing. Now where are those witnesses? Would they convince mister Zundel? My mother trained from labor camp to labor labor camp. From train station to train station, there would often be huts jam packed with people holding each other up. They were dead, but they were holding each other up because they were so jam packed into those little huts. What about those people? My mother was Russian Orthodox. Nothing to do with Jewish people at all. What about witnesses like her? Why doesn't he believe them? Speaker 0: Alright. Hold on. He'll answer you. Go ahead, mister. Speaker 1: My mother happens to have been a Red Cross nurse during the 2nd World War. She picked up all kinds of bodies after the bombing rates. Did that confirm gassing or extermination? Speaker 0: No. But that's bombing rates. What about in the camps? Speaker 1: Well, in the camps. This lady is Speaker 0: talking about Speaker 1: the camps. I'm coming to that. My father was a Red Cross medic. He was picking up German dead from all over the battlefields of Europe. No no issue that I'm gonna accuse the Americans or the Canadians of exterminating those German soldiers. People in those camps died. That's true. There's not a German that is proud of it. I'm not proud of it. I'm ashamed of it. We should have done better, given these people better care, better food. First of all, they shouldn't have been there maybe. But the fact is that there are concentration camps everywhere. The Japanese have their incarceration in America and Canada, and the Germans put Jews in German con German concentration camps and others. Now people died in those German concentration camps. Speaker 0: But they died from natural causes and not from a genocidal thrust? Speaker 1: The International Red Cross located in Arlesen, the statistical office for the German concentration camp. It amounts to inside the camp to 2 171,000 people and a few in on farms and in in the outside industrial plants to another 90 some thousand. So So there's about 350,000 people who died in German concentration camps. Not a million, not 6,000,000, not 10,000,000 or 11,000,000. It's a grotesque lie. Speaker 0: What do you say to that, ma'am? Speaker 7: I think this gentleman here I'm sorry. I'm just so angry. I can barely speak sensibly. But, seems this gentleman is trying to get himself into the footnotes of history, with his own brand of propaganda and lies. Speaker 2: You. Any comment? Yes. Certainly. What about, the the fact that, that the the world is aware of the planned, genocide by the Nazi regime against against the Jews to say nothing about, the slave labor, that other ethnic groups were were were exposed to. The fact that all east Europeans were considered just sort of, if I can translate it properly into English in my excited state. They they were considered less than human, the Slavic people and so on. And and the, the final solution to the Jewish question, was referred to in many, many documents, and it certainly doesn't need elaborating. By me. I consider it demeaning to even try and dignify this kind of of nonsense, that this person is is is spouting. Speaker 0: Charrington, good afternoon. Speaker 8: Yeah. Good afternoon, sir. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 8: My name is Andrew Zorowski. I live in Toronto. I'm 53 years of age. In 19 in the summer of 1942, I lived with my mother in the village of Kamyin, 3 kilometers east of Pokhos Zachorowski, was a little town in the eastern Poland. Speaker 0: Yep. Speaker 8: At one moment, I had a friend about my age. His name was George Stopinski. He was the son of a local teacher. Yep. He ran over to me and he says, Andrew, come. The Germans are going to be shooting the Jews from Pochoz, and they're leading them to the Jewish, cemetery. Yeah. When my mother my mother overheard this, and, of course, she didn't want me to be a witness to that, so she locked me up in the room. But George went around and opened the door, and away we went. We followed the procession. There was a 42 Jews praying with their hats on and whatever. There were 2 young men about our age. The rest of them were teenagers and older people. The Germans were on a on a back horse. They were leading those Jews. They were walking through the village. And at the back of the procession, the Germans were pulling a heavy machine gun. We followed them right through the village, past the, Christian Orthodox Orthodox Cemetery, and then another half a kilometer, there was a Jewish, Jewish cemetery. And past that cemetery, there was a a large grave about, say, 40 5 feet long, about 25 feet wide, about 3 feet 3 or 4 feet deep. Now there was beside this grave, there was a hole. All the Jews were had a, a yellow patches or a, the stars of David. Yeah. And then they were told to take their clothes off and throw it in that hole so they were actually in their underwear. Then the first party was 12. They were step they had to step down into this into this grave, and then the machine gun was ordered to shoot them. I saw the whole thing with my own eyes. They were shot. They were still moving and jerking in this grave. Then, another party of of of Taine, and another party of Taine, another party of Taine. And they were just shot down cold blood. 1 guy was trying to run. We were hiding in the bush, and as he runs so he's trying to run, he was running in our thing. And, the Germans start shooting at him, and, of course, they killed him before he got to Speaker 0: to Alright. What do you say to that, mister Ozonew? Speaker 1: That man undoubtedly witnessed witnessed an event of war, and the Germans did shoot partisans and people who were saboteurs and so on. Speaker 0: Were these were these were these saboteurs or partisans, mister Calder? Speaker 8: Sir, sir, it's I insist. I insist. Again, I am a Polish. I'm a Roman Catholic. I'm a member of the of the, Roncesvald here at parish. Right? I'm not Jewish Okay. Whatsoever. This this this Jews were separated from the ghetto in Pokhos Zakhorotsky from the women. The women were taken somewhere out to the concentration camps wherever. But the men were not partisans because they were confined behind the barbed wires, behind the, desiccant Speaker 0: So they were not they they were not partisan? Speaker 8: And shot in the cold blood. Speaker 0: Alright. They were not partisans or saboteurs. Speaker 8: Absolutely not. They were people that were confined in the ghetto. Speaker 2: Yes. Say something. Speaker 0: Yeah. Go ahead. Speaker 2: The, it's a well known fact which has been testified to by the perpetrators themselves. The were famous, for for their, mass killings by by the special Nazi killing units. They were they were killing 1,000 upon 1,000 of people, men, women, and children in Eastern Europe. This was before the guest chambers were invented, and these people were run to their death. What about Bob ER? But but apart from that, the testimony of the perpetrators themselves, there are names of people, the documents which were preserved from the Nazis Nazi time themselves where where they have given a a rundown of how many people were killed, when, on what day, and so on. But there there is another thing that I wanted to I wanted to bring out. I'm I'm just I'm just too upset. Speaker 0: Alright. Thank you for your call. Let's take another one. Cherrington, hello. Speaker 7: Hello, mister Cherrington. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 9: I've always been a firm believer in freedom of the pet press, and that goes for writing books, etcetera, not just newspapers. But the more I listen to this, call him a gentleman, the more I think I have to reconsider my thoughts on that. And in the second place, he claims he's not a Nazi. Right? Yep. Okay. If he's not a Nazi and he's speaking for the German people, then I feel very sorry for some of my German friends who have to Speaker 8: sit Are Speaker 0: you speaking with Speaker 8: and listen to him. Are you speaking Speaker 0: with a German people? Speaker 1: Made such a claim whatsoever. Some Germans would be horrified to hear me say what I'm saying. But I 20 years ago, I would have 25 years ago, I would have been horrified to hear somebody like myself also. That was before I learned that I'd been lied to my entire life. Speaker 0: How did you learn this? Speaker 1: In Canada, I had to come to this country where the libraries have not been cleaned out by the Queensland government. It is in Canada and America where these facts are only available. I have great difficulty in conversing about this topic in German because all my studies were done in English. This I will I will be forever grateful to this country to allow me the freedom to research and to express it until missus Citron and her senses came along, and to bring this truth to the people. I am interested in bringing the truth to the people about a lie that is so gigantic that nobody would believe that people would lie that, on on such a massive scale. I want to answer Speaker 0: But how if it's that massive a lie, how has it stood for 30 years or more? Speaker 1: It has it has stood by intimidation and terror, to the kind of terror and intimidation that I get, the censorship that missus Citron dishes out, the demonstrations of 1500 screaming demonstrators outside my home egged on by the JDL, burn them, kill them. Why is Speaker 0: there being a sweep across Speaker 2: There's 100. Speaker 0: Across across West Germany. I mean, the the consul general said, you know, they they represent a very small part and Speaker 1: Mister Cherenkin, there look, there is there are hundreds of writers who have their book banned, books banned in West Germany. There there are dozens of men in jail and women who voice these opinions. It is a crime in Germany to voice this. You know? Why? Because we have an occupation government that is so Or is it or Speaker 0: is it that the crime was so heinous that they just don't want to talk about it anymore? Speaker 1: Okay. If we wanna talk about crimes, then let's also talk about the allied crimes. Crimes. If we're gonna talk about crimes and we're opening up the crime subject Speaker 0: Are you talking about Nuremberg? Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking about the bombing of Dresden, the bombing of Nazi apartheid, the bombing of heat. Speaker 0: That was that was during war. Speaker 1: Also was the execution of these these people who he says were just simple humble sons of priests. They may be black marketeers, I don't know. The Soviet Union, mister Jarrington, brags that many of the party's sons behind the lines who were responsible for the killing of 700 uniformed German men, totally contrary to the rules of war, killed 700,000 German men. And when the allies marched into our village in the Black Forest in Germany, up went the poster saying for every Frenchman killed, the French occupation authorities will execute 100 Germans. You know? Speaker 0: Alright. Hold it right there. Thank you, man. We'll be back. You have, some problems with identifying some of the people who have come up propagating that it was a myth. Speaker 2: So I have no problem with them. You Speaker 0: have I mean, as their veracity, you have the problem. Speaker 2: Well, no. No. Not at all. I think they they are known propagandists and this man is only referring to them as experts. There's a professor Farizo who has been taken to court in Lyon, France, and was, was thrown out of the university where he was teaching. This is one of his experts and was given a year suspended sentence for distorting history. France has, legislation dealing with distortion of history and for incitement to hatred and violence. Now the other expert, a so called Richard Harwood was supposed to have been a professor at the University of London in England, he was never heard of at that University. Furthermore, the book, which refer to the 6,000,000 really die was supposed to have been published at a certain address in England and there and when when people check the address, there was at that address, there's no such a thing. It was a private home. So as you can see the veracity of this person, is certainly leaves a great deal to be desired. Speaker 1: Yes. I'd like to come back on 2 points. Number 1, I just was speaking to professor Faurisson in California. He is out of jail certainly and the fact that he was kicked out of a French University will also say something about French freedom of speech and academic freedom and freedom of debate. He is an recognized expert in old texts and documents. And he proved conclusively that in Auschwitz nothing was cast but lice because he went there himself personally. And he was Speaker 0: Was he an inmate? Speaker 1: No, after the war, you can go there today. He took soil samples, tested it for the famous cyclone b, went to the local registry where all all the buildings plans were housed and everything else. No gas chamber plans, but there was a, a plan for a dog house and so on. Now, Foresan won his appeal with the exception of one minor fine, where at one time he was supposed to pay CHF1,500,000 to broadcast his recantation over French, radio. Now suddenly, he he he got a slap of the wrist in order to to satisfy people like miss Siron. Before she mentioned something about self confessed people in these war crimes trials. There was so much torture, beating, starvation, and psychological pressure, hooding going on during those war crimes trials, even in civilized western part of Europe by the Americans, that the US Congress set up a special committee, mister Charrington, to investigate all these tortures and reprimanded these people and removed some of the interrogators. You're talking about Nuremberg? Exactly. And many of the interrogators were Jews, missus Citron. And we have their names and their ranks, and we their photographs. And there's justice coming for those people too if there's justice in the world. Many of those confessions in Nuremberg were extorted under brutal torture. Speaker 0: I mean, people like Goring? People like he was tortured? Speaker 1: Of course. Goring wouldn't be tortured. He's such a famous name, but he was most likely killed. Speaker 0: Didn't he commit suicide? Didn't he have that cyanide pill in his tooth? Speaker 1: After he has been frisked, and every body cavity was repeatedly checked, and he was x rayed. Suddenly, like magic, he finds a cyanide pill in his cell. Speaker 0: Apparently, apparently, they had it he had it in his tooth. However, let's I think we've got time for a quick call. Charington, hello. Speaker 10: Hi. I'm a 20 year old Christian Canadian who, I'm just deploring this election of mister Zum. On yourself. His racist, intolerant, anti Semitic, and anti Israel comments really constitute nothing more than outright pornography and obscenity. I only wish I only wish the mission is only when all Canadians would have the opportunity to visit the gas chambers and ovens in Europe, which were created by fanatic races like him to exterminate millions of human beings. And in fact, I actually think all Canadians ought to be required to take courses on the Holocaust and to visit the memorial in places like Poland, Germany, and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, Israel to understand the vile and obscene nature of mister Zundel's hatred. I'm very upset. Speaker 0: How dangerous is this man? Speaker 3: Yes. The the dangerousness is is determined by your understanding of what racism is. I think that if you see what mister Zungle, says and and what he writes as being hate propaganda in the sense that it it's racism against a particular group of people, in this case the Jews, then you see that it's the type of propaganda that literally no Canadian will tolerate. The problem is defining it and putting it within that definition of hate propaganda under our laws. And mister Zandal is very expert at walking that line very carefully and staying just on the right side of it. And I think that that we have him today on this program, exercising his freedom of speech, may be seen by some callers as was mentioned as as being inappropriate, but I think it's important for everyone to see just how difficult it is to define freedom of speech and its, and its confines. You know, where where does freedom of speech have to end and where do you stop people like mister Zendel from saying the kinds of things they say? It's difficult to do but you know, we live in a democratic society which has to deal with that and hopefully, our laws will reflect the opinion of most Canadians and in that way the hate propaganda legislation that we do have will be strengthened in some way to, to take care of this problem. Speaker 0: Do you think you'll be put out of business? Speaker 1: Mister Cherrington, as long as there is freedom in Canada, dissent is safe. But censorship of the kind that the Zionist sponsor, they can carry on their extortion racket. I could be censored because Mr. McMurphy, the attorney general of this province, was quoted in the Canadian Jewish News, giving a speech to some Zionist function that he is a Christian Zionist, you know. None of these people address the issue. I have the newspaper here, it's a Jewish newspaper called the Jewish Times, half the page is taken up with inflammatory headlines, Arabs bagging the Nazi propagandists and stuff like that. And we have Paul Godfrey, himself Jewish, who says that I do not believe that Jews in this community have any real problems. What the problems are are people like missus Citron, who are professional agitators, who agitate their own community and upset the community at large. Speaker 0: She is a survivor of our shores. Speaker 1: I'm a survivor of allied bombing. Am I gonna forever blame Canadians and Americans for bombing our village and towns? We gotta get on with living. Speaker 0: What do you say to that? Speaker 2: I can say, that up until now, this man was allowed to abuse freedom of expression, but we have now in the new charter of rights a section which says that you cannot indulge in libel and slander even with our existing laws governing freedom of expression and freedom of speech. And we are we are going to see to it that this man will be stopped. Speaker 1: We have infiltrated a number of these Zionist meetings and Zionism by the way has nothing to do with Judaism, has very little to do with Jews, they are small vocal minority, they are in effect Jewish Nazis. Now, you are political organization. You are not a religious organization. Don't speak in the royal we. Speak for yourself. There's thousands of Jews in Israel who demonstrated against the Zionist policies of their government. 400,000 to be exact. So you are not one like your propaganda likes to pro proclaim, number 1. Number 2, I have a perfect right to speak out and if you want to challenge me on the liability and slander laws in front of the Ontario courts, I'll have my day in court. So far, I have done pretty well. Canadians are fair. What I'm saying is not popular. I understand this. I've been What Speaker 8: are you saying? Speaker 0: I mean, every call has been against you, mister Sundar. Speaker 1: How do I know how you guys are rigging calls? Oh, we wouldn't rig calls. Are you kidding? I've been in this for 25 years. I've been running out. No. We wouldn't call. 1,000 Speaker 0: people. Calls. Speaker 1: Anyways I Speaker 0: mean, people coming on saying they're Christians. They were polls. They were this, that, and other. Speaker 1: Well, you know, every time a caller comes Speaker 0: on Why would we why would we rip calls? We went, you know, we invite you all to say your piece, other people. Why would we go to to to the Machiavellian trick of rigging ball? Speaker 1: Mister Charrington, I'm so surprised that I'm on your show after 20 years of It Speaker 0: hasn't been going 20 years. I'm not going 3. Speaker 1: No, I know that. But I on on a show like this after doing 20 years of my work, I want to say the Jewish community in this country, in America and in Germany and the world is perfectly safe from Ernst Schindler. I've been around for 25 years as an intellectual and as a writer. Nobody has been harmed by me. I have suitcases full of invitations to the Canadian Jewish Congress, to Mississippi Citron, to Rabbi Plaut, to Irvin Cutler to come and debate these issues in public, but she doesn't wanna dignify me. She doesn't But at Speaker 8: least she came here Speaker 0: to talk Speaker 1: to to talk to. No. She does. She doesn't even speak to this person if that isn't something else. My mother was a simple peasant, but she had better manners than that. Speaker 0: Final word from you, missus Citroen. Speaker 2: Yes. I as I mentioned in the beginning, I really didn't intend to, to appear on the same, spot as this person. But I feel that Canadians have a right to see this man for what he is and I think that he exposed himself and I hope that I have helped to do that. Speaker 0: Thank you very much for coming and being with us.
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Leo Frank was convicted of the murder of Mary Fagan based on evidence such as being alone with her at the time of the crime, acting nervous and agitated, and a history of improper advances towards young girls. Witnesses testified to his suspicious behavior and attempts to cover up his involvement. Jim Conley confessed to helping Frank move the body and writing the death notes. Despite appeals, Frank's guilty verdict was upheld. However, there are inconsistencies in the case, such as Alonzo Mann not seeing the body when he claimed to have witnessed Conley carrying it, and Frank not hearing any struggle. Witnesses also saw Conley doing nothing at the factory on the day of the murder. The defense team did not cross-examine witnesses who testified against Frank's character. Claims of widespread antisemitism during that time are unfounded, and the case against Frank is argued to be based on perjury, fraud, and hoaxes.
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Speaker 0: 100 reasons Leo Frank is guilty. Proving that antisemitism had nothing to do with his conviction. And proving that his defenders have used frauds and hoaxes for 100 years. By Bradford l Huie. 1. Only Leo Frank had the opportunity to be alone with Mary Fagan, and he admits he was alone with her in his office when she came to get her pay. And in fact, he was completely alone with her on the second floor. Had Jim Conley been the killer, he would have had to attack her practically right at the entrance to the building where he sat almost all day, where people were constantly coming and going, and where several witnesses noticed Conley with no assurance of even a moment of privacy. 2. Leo Frank had told Newt Lee, the pencil factory's night watchman, to come earlier than usual at 4 PM on the day of the murder. But Frank was extremely nervous when Lee arrived. The killing of Mary Fagan had occurred between 3 and 4 hours before, and her body was still in the building, and insisted that Lee leave and come back in 2 hours. 3. When Lee then suggested he could sleep for a couple of hours on the premises, and there was a cot in the basement near the place where Lee would ultimately find the body, Frank refused to let him. Lee could also have slept in the packing room adjacent to Leo Frank's office. But Frank insisted that Lee had to leave and, quote, have a good time, end quote, instead. This violated the corporate rule that once the night watchman entered the building, he could not leave until he handed over the keys to the day watchman. Newt Lee, though strongly suspected at first, was manifestly innocent and had no reason to lie and had had good relations with Frank and no motive to hurt him. 4. When Lee returned at 6, Frank was even more nervous and agitated than 2 hours earlier according to Lee. He was so nervous, he could not operate the time clock properly, something he had done hundreds of times before. Leo Frank officially started to work at the National Pencil Company on Monday morning, August 10, 19 0 8. 22 days later, on September 1, 190 8, he was elevated to the position of superintendent of the company and served in this capacity until he was arrested on Tuesday morning, April 29, 1913. 5. When Leo Frank came out of the building around 6, he met not only Lee, but John Milton Gantt, a former employee who was a friend of Mary Fagan. Lee says that when Frank saw Gantt, he visibly, quote, jumped back, end quote, and appeared very nervous when Gantt asked to go into the building to retrieve some shoes that he had left there. According to EF Holloway, JM Gant had known Mary for a long time and was one of the only employees Mary Fagan spoke with at the factory. Gant was the former pay master of the firm. Frank had fired him 3 weeks earlier, allegedly because the payroll was short about $1. Was Gantz firing a case of the dragon getting rid of the prince to get the princess? Was Frank jealous of Gantz closeness with Mary Fagan? Unlike Frank, Gant was tall with bright blue eyes and handsome features. 6. After Frank returned home in the evening after the murder, he called Newt Lee on the telephone and asked him if everything was, quote, alright, end quote, at the factory. Something he had never done before. A few hours later, Lee would discover the mutilated body of Mary Fagan in the pencil factory basement. 7. When police finally reached Frank after the body of Mary Fagan had been found, Frank emphatically denied knowing the murdered girl by name. Even though he had seen her probably hundreds of times, He had to pass by her workstation where she had worked for a year every time he inspected the workers' area on the second floor and every time he went to the bathroom. And he had filled out her payslip personally on approximately 52 occasions, marking it with her initials m p. Witnesses also testified that Frank had spoken to Mary Fagan on multiple occasions, even getting a little too close for comfort at times, putting his hand on her shoulder and calling her Mary. 8. When police accompanied Frank to the factory on the morning after the murder, Frank was so nervous and shaking so badly he could not even perform simple tasks like unlocking a door. 9. Early in the investigation, Leo Frank told police that he knew that JM Gant had been, quote, intimate, end quote, with Mary Fagan, immediately making Gant a suspect. Gantt was arrested and interrogated. But how could Frank have known such a thing about a girl he didn't even know by name? 10. Also early in the investigation, while both Leo Frank and Newt Lee were being held and some suspicion was still directed at Lee, a bloody shirt was quote discovered end quote in a barrel at Lee's home. Investigators became suspicious when it was proved that the blood marks on the shirt had been made by wiping it unworn in the liquid. The shirt had no trace of body odor and the blood had fully soaked even the armpit area. Even though only a small quantity of blood was found at the crime scene. This was the first sign that money was being used to procure illegal acts and interfere in the case in such a way as to direct suspicion away from Leo m Frank. This became a virtual certainty when Lee was definitely cleared. 11. Leo Frank claimed that he was in his office continuously from noon to 12:35 on the day of the murder. But a witness friendly to Frank, 14 year old Montine Stover, said Frank's office was totally empty from 12:05 to 12:10 while she waited for him there before giving up and leaving. This was approximately the same time as Mary Fagan's visit to Frank's office and the time she was murdered. On Sunday, April 27, 1913, Leo Frank told police that Mary Fagan came into his office at 12:03 PM. The next day, Frank made a deposition to the police with his lawyers present in which he said he was alone with Mary Fagan in his office between 12:05 and 12:10. Frank would later change his story again stating on the stand that Mary Fagan came into his office a full 5 minutes later than that. 12. Leo Frank contradicted his own testimony when he finally admitted on the stand that he had possibly, quote, unconsciously, end quote, gone to the middle room bathroom between 12:05 and 12:10 PM on the day of the murder. 13. The metal room which Frank finally admitted at trial he might have, quote, unconsciously, end quote, visited at the approximate time of the killing and where no one else except Mary Fagan could be placed by investigators, was the room in which the prosecution said the murder occurred. It was also where investigators had found spots of blood and some blondish hair twisted on a lathe handle, where there had definitely been no hair the day before. When RP Barrett left work on Friday evening at 6 o'clock PM, he had left a piece of work in his machine that he intended to finish on Monday morning at 6:30 AM. It was then he found the hair with dried blood on it on his lathe. How did it get there over the weekend if the factory was closed for the holiday? Several coworkers testified the hair resembled Mary Fagan's. Nearby, on the floor adjacent to the metal room's bathroom door, was a 5 inch wide fan shaped blood stain. 14. In his initial statement to authorities, Leo Frank stated that after Mary Fagan picked up her pay in his office, quote, she went out through the outer office and I heard her talking with another girl, end quote. This other girl never existed. Every person known to be in the building was extensively investigated and interviewed, and no girl spoke to Mary Fagan nor met her at that time. Montine Stover was the only other girl there, and she saw only an empty office. Stover was friendly with Leo Frank, and in fact, was a positive character witness for him. She had no reason to lie, but Leo Frank evidently did. Atlanta, Georgia, April 28, 1913. 15. In an interview shortly after the discovery of the murder, Leo Frank stated, quote, I have been in the habit of calling up the night watchman to keep a check on him and at 7 o'clock called Newt, end quote. But Newt Lee, who had no motive to hurt his boss, in fact, quite the opposite, firmly maintained that in his 3 weeks of working as the factory's night watchman, Frank had never before made such a call. Atlanta, Georgian, April 28, 1913. 16. A few days later, Frank told the press, referring to the National Pencil Company factory where the murder took place, quote, I deeply regret the carelessness shown by the police department in not making a complete investigation as to fingerprints and other evidence before a great throng of people were allowed to enter the place, end quote. But it was Frank himself as factory superintendent who had total control over access to the factory and crime scene, who was fully aware that evidence might thereby be destroyed, and who allowed it to happen. Atlanta, Georgia, April 29, 1913. 17. Although, Leo Frank made a public show of support for Newt Lee stating Lee was not guilty of the murder, behind the scenes he was saying quite different things. In its issue of April 29, 1913, the Atlanta Georgian published an article titled suspicion lifts from Leo Frank. In which it was stated that the police were increasingly of the opinion that Newt Lee was the murderer and that, quote, additional clues furnished by the head of the pencil factory, Frank, were responsible for closing the net around the Negro watchmen, end quote. The discovery that the bloody shirt found at Lee's home was planted along with other factors such as Lee's unshakable testimony would soon change their views however. 18. One of the quote clues end quote provided by Frank was his claim that Newt Lee had not punched the company's time clock properly. Evidently missing several of his rounds and giving him time to kill Mary Fagan and return home to hide the bloody shirt. But that directly contradicted Frank's initial statement the morning after the murder that Lee's time slip was complete and proper in every way. Why the change? The attempt to frame Lee would eventually crumble, especially after it was discovered that Mary Fagan died shortly after noon, 4 hours before Newt Lee's first arrival at the factory. 19. Almost immediately after the murder, pro Frank partisans with the National Pencil Company hired the Pinkerton Agency to investigate the crime. But even the Pinkertons, being paid by Frank's supporters, eventually were forced to come to the conclusion that Frank was the guilty man. The Pinkertons were hired by Sigmund Montag of the National Pencil Company at the behest of Leo Frank with the understanding that they were to, quote, ferret out the murderer no matter who he was, end quote. After Leo Frank was convicted, Harry Scott and the Pinkertons were stiffed out of an investigation bill totaling some $1,300 for their investigative work that had indeed helped to quote, ferret out the murderer no matter who he was. End quote. The Pinkertons had to sue to win their wages and expenses in court, but were never able to fully collect. Mary Fagan's mother also took the National Pencil Company to court for wrongful death, and the case settled out of court. She also was never able to fully collect the settlement. These are some of the unwritten injustices of the Leo Frank case, in which hardworking and incorruptible detectives were stiffed out of their money for being incorruptible, and a mother was cheated of her daughter's life and then cheated out of her rightful settlement as well. Atlanta, Georgia, May 26, 1913. Quote, Pinkerton Mann says Frank is guilty. Pencil factory owners told him not to shield superintendent, Scott declares. End quote. 20. That is not to say that there were not factions within the Pinkertons, though. One faction was not averse to planting false evidence. A Pinkerton agent named w d McWirth, 3 weeks after the entire factory had been meticulously examined by police and Pinkerton men, miraculously, quote, discovered, end quote, a bloody club, a piece of cord like that used to strangle Mary Fagan, and an alleged piece of Mary Fagan's pay envelope on the first floor of the factory near where the factory's black sweeper, Jim Conley, had been sitting on the fatal day. This was the beginning of the attempt to place guilt for the killing on Conley, an effort which still continues 100 years later. The, quote, discovery, end quote, was so obviously and patently false that it was greeted with disbelief by almost everyone. And McWirth was pulled off the investigation and eventually discharged by the Pinkerton agency. 21. It also came out that McWorth had made his fines while chief Pinkerton investigator Harry Scott was out of town. Most interestingly and contrary to Scott's direct orders, McWorth's discoveries were reported immediately to Frank's defense team, but not at all to the police. A year later, McWirth surfaced once more now as a Burns Agency operative. A firm which was by then openly working in the interests of Frank. One must ask, who would pay for such obstruction of justice? And why? Fry. The Silent and the Damned. Page 46. Indianapolis Star. May 28, 1914. The Frank Case, Atlanta Publishing Company, page 65. 22. Jim Conley told police 2 obviously false narratives before finally breaking down and admitting that he was an accessory to Leo Frank in moving of the body of Mary Fagan and in authoring at Frank's direction the death notes found near the body in the basement. These notes, ostensibly from Mary Fagan, but written in semi literate southern black dialect, seem to point to the night watchman as the killer. To a wrapped audience of investigators and factory officials, Conley reenacted his and Frank's conversations and movements on the day of the killing. Investigators and even some observers who were very skeptical at first felt that Conley's detailed narrative had the ring of truth. 23. At trial, the leading and most expensive criminal defense lawyers in the state of Georgia could not trip up Jim Conley or shake him from his story. 24. Conley stated that Leo Frank sometimes employed him to watch the entrance to the factory while Frank chatted with teenage girl employees upstairs. Conley said that Frank admitted that he had accidentally killed Mary Fagan when she resisted his advances and sought his help in the hiding of the body and in writing the black dialect death notes that attempted to throw suspicion on the night watchmen. Conley said he was supposed to come back later to burn Mary Fagan's body in return for $200, but fell asleep and did not return. 25. Blood spots were found exactly where Conley said that Mary Fagan's lifeless hair that looked like Mary Fagan's was found on a metal room lathe immediately next to where Conley said he found her body, where she had apparently fallen after her altercation with Leo Frank. 27. Blood spots were found exactly where Conley says he dropped Mary Fagan's body while trying to move it. Conley could not have known this. If he is making up his story, this is a coincidence too fantastic to be accepted. 28. A piece of Mary Fagan's lacy underwear was looped around her neck. Apparently, in a clumsy attempt to hide the deeply indented marks of the rope which was used to strangle her. No murderer could possibly believe that detectives would be fooled for an instant by such a deception. But a murderer who needed another man's help for a few minutes in disposing of a body might indeed believe it would serve to briefly conceal the real nature of the crime from his assistant. Perhaps being mistaken for a lace collar. 29. If Conley was the killer, and it had to be Conley or Frank, he moved the body of Mary Fagan by himself. The lacy loop around Mary Fagan's neck would serve absolutely no purpose in such a scenario. 30. The dragging marks on the basement floor leading to where Mary Fagan's body was dumped near the furnace began at the elevator. Exactly matching Jim Conley's version of events. 31. Much has been made of Conley's admission that he defecated in the elevator shaft on Saturday morning, and the idea that because the detectives crushed the feces for the first time when they rode down in the elevator the next day, Conley's story that he and Frank used the elevator to bring Mary Fagan's body to the basement on Saturday afternoon could not be true. Thus, bringing Connie's entire story into question. But how could anyone determine with certainty that the crushing was the first crushing? And nowhere in the voluminous records of the case, including governor Slayton's commutation order in which he details his supposed test of the elevator, can we find evidence that anyone made even the most elementary inquiry into whether or not the bottom surface of the elevator car was uniformly flat. 32. Furthermore, the so called shit in the shaft theory of Frank's innocence also breaks down when we consider the fact that detectives inspected the floor of the elevator shaft before riding down in the elevator and found in it Mary Fagan's parasol and a large quantity of trash and debris. Detective RM Lassiter stated at the inquest into Mary Fagan's death an answer to the question, quote, is the bottom of the elevator shaft of concrete or wood or what? End quote. That, quote, I don't know. It was full of trash and I couldn't see. End quote. There was so much trash there, the investigator couldn't even tell what the floor of the shaft was made of. There may well have been enough trash and arranged in such a way to have the crushing of the waste material when Frank and Conley used the elevator to transport Mary Fagan's body to the basement. In digging through this trash, detectives could easily have moved it enough to permit the crushing of the feces the next time the elevator was run down. 33. The defense's theory of Conley's guilt involves Conley alone bringing Mary Fagan's body to the basement down the scuttle hole ladder, not the elevator. But Lasseter was insistent that the dragging marks did not begin at the ladder, stating at the inquest, quote, no, sir. The dragging signs went past the foot of the ladder. I saw them between the elevator and the ladder. End quote. Why would Conley pointlessly drag the body backwards toward the elevator when his goal was the furnace? Why were there no signs of his turning around if he had done so? If Mary Fagan's body could leave dragging marks on the irregular and dirty surface of the basement, why were there no marks of a heavy body being dumped down the scuttle hole as the defense alleged Conley to have done? Why did Mary Fagan's body not have the multiple bruises it would have to have incurred from being hurled 14 feet down the scuttle hole to the basement floor below? 34. Leo Frank changed the time at which he said Mary Fagan came to collect her pay. He initially said that it was 12:03, then said that it might have been, quote, 12:05 to 12:10, maybe 12:07, End quote. But at the inquest, he moved his estimates a full 5 minutes later. Quote, question. What time did she come in? Answer. I don't know exactly. It was 12:10 or 12:15. Question. How do you fix the time that she came in at 12:10 or 12:15? Answer. Because the other people left at 12, and I judged it to be 10 or 15 minutes later when she came in. End quote. He seems to have no solid basis for his new estimate, so why change it by 5 minutes or at all? 35. Pinkerton detective Harry Scott, who was employed by Leo Frank to investigate the murder, testified that he was asked by Frank's defense team to withhold from the police any evidence his agency might find until after giving it to Frank's lawyers. Scott refused. 36. Newt Lee, who was proved absolutely innocent and who never tried to implicate anyone including Leo Frank, says Frank reacted with horror when Lee suggested that Mary Fagan might have been killed during the day, and not at night as was commonly believed early in the investigation. The daytime was exactly when Frank was at the factory and Lee wasn't. Here, detective Harry Scott testifies as to part of the conversation that ensued when Leo Frank and Newt Lee were purposely brought together. Quote, question. What did Lee say? Answer. Lee says that Frank didn't want to talk about the murder. Lee says he told Frank he knew the murder was committed in daytime, and Frank hung his head and said, let's don't talk about that. End quote. Atlanta, Georgia, May 8, 1913. Quote, Lee repeats his private conversation with Frank. End quote. 37. When new Lee was questioned at the inquest about this arranged conversation, he confirms that Frank didn't want to continue the conversation when Lee stated that the killing couldn't possibly have happened during his evening and nighttime watch. Quote, question. Tell the jury of your conversation with Frank in private. Answer. I was in the room and he came in. I said, mister Frank, it is mighty hard to be sitting here handcuffed. He said he thought I was innocent and I said I didn't know anything except finding the body. Yes. Mister Frank said. And you keep that up, we will both go to hell. I told him that if she had been killed in the basement, I would have known it. And he said, don't let's talk about that. Let that go. End quote. Atlanta, Georgian, May 8, 1913. Quote, Lee repeats his private conversation with Frank, end quote. 38. Former county policeman, Boots Rogers, who drove the officers to Frank's home and then took them all, including Frank, back to the factory on the morning of April 27th, said Frank was so nervous that he was hoarse even before being told of the murder. Atlanta Georgian, May 8, 1913. Quote, Rogers tells what police found at the factory. End quote. 30 9. Rogers also states that he personally inspected Newt Lee's time slip. The one that Leo Frank at first said had no misses, but later claimed the reverse. The Atlanta Georgian on May 8th reported what Roger saw. Quote, Roger said he looked at the slip and the first punch was at 6:30 and last at 2:30. There were no misses, he said. End quote. Frank, unfortunately, was allowed to take the slip and put it in his desk. Later, a slip with several punches missing would turn up. How can this be reconciled with the behavior of an innocent man? 40. The curious series of events surrounding Lee's time slip is totally inconsistent with the theory of a police, quote, frame up, end quote, of Leo Frank. At the time these events occurred, suspicion was strongly directed at Lee and not at Frank. 41. When Leo Frank accompanied the officers to the police station later on during the day after the murder, Roger stated that Leo Frank was literally so nervous that his hands were visibly shaking. 42. Factory foreman Lemmy Quinn would eventually testify for the defense that Leo Frank was calmly sitting in his office at 12:20, a few minutes after the murder probably occurred. As to whether this visit really happened, there is some question. Quinn says he came to visit Schiff, Frank's personal assistant, who wasn't there. Was he even expected to be there on a Saturday and holiday? And stayed only 2 minutes or so talking to Frank in the office. Frank at first said there was no such visit and only remembered it days later when Quinn, quote, refreshed his memory, end quote. 43. As reported by the Atlanta Georgian, city detective John Black said even Quinn initially denied that there was such a visit. Quote, question. What did mister Quinn say to you about his trip to the factory Saturday? Answer. Mister Quinn said he was not at the factory on the day of the murder. Question. How many times did he say it? Answer. 2 or 3 times. I heard him tell detective Starnes that he had not been there. End quote. Atlanta, Georgia, May 8, 1913. Quote, Black testifies Quinn denied visiting factory. End quote. 44. Several young women and girls testified at the inquest that Frank had made improper advances toward them. In one instance, touching a girl's breast, and in another, appearing to offer money for compliance with his desires. The Atlanta Georgian reported, quote, girls and women were called to the stand to testify that they had been employed at the factory or had had occasion to go there, and that Frank had attempted familiarities with them. Nelly Pettus of 9 Oliver Street declared that Frank had made improper advances to her. She was asked if she had ever been employed at the pencil factory. No, she answered. Question. Do you know Leo Frank? Answer. I have seen him once or twice. Question. When and where did you see him? Answer. In his office at the factory whenever I went to draw my sister in law's pay. Question. What did he say to you that might have been improper on any of these visits? Answer. He didn't exactly say. He made gestures. I went to get my sister's pay about 4 weeks ago, and when I went into the office of mister Frank, I asked for her. He told me I couldn't see him unless, quote, I saw him first. End quote. I told him I didn't want to, quote, see him. End quote. He pulled a box from his desk. It had a lot of money in it. He looked at it significantly and then looked at me. When he looked at me, he winked. As he winked, he said, quote, how about it? End quote. I instantly told him I was a nice girl. Here, the witness stopped her statement. Coroner Donahue asked her sharply, quote, didn't you say anything else? End quote. Quote, yes. I did. I told him to go to hell and walked out of his office, end quote. Atlanta, Georgia, May 9, 1913. Quote, Fagan case to be rushed to grand jury by Dorsey. End quote. 45. In the same article, another young girl testified to Frank's pattern of improper familiarities. Quote, Nelly Wood, a young girl, testified as follows. Question. Do you know Leo Frank? Answer. I worked for him 2 days. Question. Did you observe any misconduct on his part? Answer. Well, his actions didn't suit me. He'd come around and put his hands on me when such conduct was entirely uncalled for. Question. Is that all he did? Answer. No. He asked me one day to come into his office saying that he wanted to talk to me. He tried to close the door, but I wouldn't let him. He got too familiar by getting so close to me. He also put his hands on me. Question. Where did he put his hands? Answer. He barely touched my breast. He was subtle in his approaches and tried to pretend that he was joking, but I was too wary for such as that. Question. Did he try further familiarities? Answer. Yes. End quote. 46. In May, around the time of disgraced Pinkerton detective McWorth's attempt to plant fake evidence, which caused McWorth's dismissal from the Pinkerton agency, attorney Thomas Felder made his loud but mysterious appearance. Colonel Felder, as he was known, was soliciting donations to bring yet another private detective agency into the case. Pinkerton's great rival, the William Burns Agency. Felder claimed to be representing neighbors, friends, and family members of Mary Fagan. But Mary Fagan's stepfather, j w Coleman, was so angered by this misrepresentation that he made an affidavit denying there was any connection between him and Felder. It was widely believed that Felder and Burns were secretly retained by Frank supporters. The most logical interpretation of these events is that having largely failed in getting the Pinkerton Agency to perform corrupt acts on behalf of Frank, Frank's supporters decided to covertly bring another and hopefully more cooperative agency into the case. Felder and his unselfish efforts were their cover. Felder's representations were seen as deception by many, which led more and more people to question Frank's innocence. Atlanta, Georgia, May 15, 1913. Quote, Burns investigator will probe slang, end quote. 47. Felder's efforts collapsed when a s Kolyar, a secret agent of the police, used a dictograph to secretly record Felder offering to pay $1,000 for the original Coleman affidavit and for copies of the confidential police files on the Mary Fagan case. C w Toby, the burns detective brought into the case by Felder, was reportedly present. Kolyar stated that after this meeting, quote, I left the Piedmont Hotel at 10:55 AM, and Toby went from thence to Felder's office, as he informed me, to meet a committee of citizens among whom were mister Hirsch, mister Myers, mister Greenstein, and several other prominent Jews in this city, end quote. Atlanta, Georgia, May 21, 1913. Quote, TB Felder repudiates report of activity for Frank, end quote. 48. Felder then lashed out wildly. Vehemently denied working for Frank's friends and declared that he thought Frank guilty. He even made the bizarre claim, impossible for anyone to believe, that the police were shielding Frank. It was observed at Felder that, quote, when one's reputation is near 0, one might want to attach oneself to the side one wants to harm in an effort to drag them down as you fall, end quote. Atlanta, Georgian, May 21, 1913. Quote, TB Felder repudiates report of activity for Frank. End quote. 49. Interestingly, c w Toby, the burns man, also made a statement shortly afterward when his firm initially withdrew from the case that he had come to believe in Frank's guilt also. Quote, it is being insinuated by certain forces that we are striving to shield Frank. That is absurd. From what I developed in my investigation, I am convinced that Frank is the guilty man, end quote. Atlanta Constitution, May 27, 1913. Quote, Burns agency quits the Fagan case. End quote. 50. As his efforts crashed to Earth, Felder made this statement to an Atlanta Constitution reporter. Quote, is it not passing strange that the city detective department whose wages are paid by the taxpayers of the city should hobnob daily with the Pinkerton detective agency, an agency confessedly employed in this investigation to work in behalf of Leo Frank, That they would take this agency into their daily and hourly conference and repose it in their confidence and cooperate with it in every way possible and withhold their cooperation from WJ Burns and his able assistance, who are engaged by the public and for the public in ferreting out this crime, end quote. But what Felder failed to mention was that the Pinkertons' main agent in Atlanta, Harry Scott, had proved that he could not be corrupted by the National Pencil Company's money. So it is reasonable to conclude that the well heeled pro Frank forces would search elsewhere for help. The famous William Burns agency was really the only logical choice. To think that Felder and, quote, Mary Fagan's neighbors, end quote, were selflessly employing Burns is naive in the extreme. It means that Frank's wealthy friends would just sit on their money and stick with the not at all helpful Pinkertons who would just fire the only agent who tried to help Frank. Atlanta Constitution, May 25, 1913. Quote, Thomas Felder brands the charges of bribery diabolical conspiracy, end quote. 51. Kolyar, the man who exposed Felder, also stated that Frank's friends were spreading money around to get witnesses to leave town or make false affidavits. The Atlanta Georgian commented on Felder's antics as he exited the stage. Quote, it is regarded as certain that Felder is eliminated entirely from the Fagan case. It had been believed that he really was in the employ of the Frank defense up to the time that he began to bombard the public with statements against Frank and went on record in saying he believed in the guilt of Frank, end quote. Atlanta, Georgian, May 26, 1913. Quote, lay bribery effort to Frank's friends. End quote. 52. When Jim Conley finally admitted he wrote the death notes found near Mary Fagan's body, Leo Frank's reaction was powerful. Quote, Leo m Frank was confronted in his cell by the startling confession of the Negro sweeper, James Connolly. Quote, what have you to say to this? End quote, demanded a Georgian reporter. Frank, as soon as he had gained the import of what the Negro had told, jumped back in his cell and refused to say a word. His hands moved nervously and his face twitched as though he were on the verge of a breakdown, but he absolutely declined to deny the truth of the Negro's statement or make any sort of comment upon it. His only answer to the repeated questions that were shot at him was a negative shaking of the head or the simple, quote, I have nothing to say, end quote. Atlanta, Georgian, May 26, 1913. Quote, Negro sweeper says he wrote Fagan notes, end quote. 53. When Jim Conley reenacted, step by step, the sequence of events as he experienced them on the day of the murder, including the exact positions in which the body was found and detailing his assisting Leo Frank in moving Mary Fagan's body and writing the death notes, Harry Scott of the Pinkerton Detective Agency stated, quote, there is not a doubt but that the Negro was telling the truth and it would be foolish to doubt it. The Negro couldn't go through the actions like he did unless he had done this just like he said, end quote, said Harry Scott. Quote, we believe that we have at last gotten to the bottom of the Fagan mystery, End quote. Atlanta, Georgian, May 29, 1913, extra. Quote, Conley reenacts and plant part he says he took in slaying. End quote. 54. In early June, Felder's name popped up in the press again. This time, he was claiming that his nemesis, a s Kolyar, had in his possession an affidavit from Jim Conley confessing to the murder of Mary Fagan and that Kolyar was withholding it from the police. The police immediately sweated Conley to see if there was any truth in this, but Conley vigorously denied the entire story and stated that he had never even met Kolyar. Chief of Police Lanford said this confirmed his belief that Felder had been secretly working for Frank all along. Quote, I attribute this report to Colonel Felder's work, end quote, said the chief. Quote, it merely shows again that Felder is in league with the defense of Frank, that the attorney is trying to muddy the waters of this investigation to shield Frank and throw the blame on another. This first became noticeable when Felder endeavored to secure the release of Conley. His ulterior motive, I am sure, was the protection of Frank. He had been informed that the Negro had this damaging evidence against Frank, and Felder did all in his power to secure the Negro's release. He declared that it was a shame that the police should hold Conley an innocent Negro. He protested strenuously against it. Yet not one time did Felder attempt to secure the release of Newt Lee or Gordon Bailey on the same grounds, even though both of these Negroes have been held longer than Conley. This, to me, is significant of Felder's ulterior motive in getting Conley away from the police. End quote. Are such underhanded shenanigans on the part of Frank's team the actions of a truly innocent man? Atlanta, Georgia, June 6, 1913. Quote, Conley, grilled by police again, denies confessing killing. End quote. 55. Much is made by Frank Partizans of Georgia governor Slayton's 1915 decision to commute Frank's sentence from death by hanging to life imprisonment. But when Slayton issued his commutation order, he specifically stated that he was sustaining Frank's conviction and the guilty verdict of the judge and jury. Quote, in my judgment, by granting a commutation in this case, I am sustaining the jury, the judge, and the appellate tribunals, and at the same time, am discharging that duty which is placed on me by the constitution of the state. End quote. He also added of Jim Conley's testimony that Frank had admitted to killing Mary Fagan and enlisted Conley's help in moving the body. Quote, it is hard to conceive that any man's power of fabrication of minute details could reach that which Conley showed, unless it be the truth. End quote. 56. On May 8, 1913, the coroner's inquest jury, a panel of 6 sworn men, voted with the coroner 7 to 0 to bind Leo Frank over to the grand jury on the charge of murder after hearing the testimony of 160 witnesses. 57. On May 24, 1913, after hearing evidence from prosecutor Hugh Dorsey and his witnesses, the grand jury charged Leo m Frank with the murder of Mary Fagan. Four Jews were on the grand jury of 21 persons. Although only 12 votes were needed, the vote was unanimous against Frank. An historian specializing in the history of antisemitism, Albert Lindemann denies that prejudice against Jews was a factor and states that the jurors, quote, were persuaded by the concrete evidence that Dorsey presented, end quote. And this indictment was handed down even without hearing any of Jim Conley's testimony, which had not yet come out. Lindeman, the Jew accused 3 antisemitic affairs. Cambridge, 1993, page 251. 58. On August 25, 1913, after more than 29 days of the longest and most costly trial in Southern history up to that time, and after 2 of the South's most talented and expensive attorneys and a veritable army of detectives and agents in their employ gave their all in defense of Leo m Frank, and after 4 hours of jury deliberation, Frank was unanimously convicted of the murder of Mary Fagan by a vote of 12 to 0. 59. The trial judge, Leonard Strickland Roan, had the power to set aside the guilty verdict of Leo Frank if he believed the defendant had not received a fair trial. He did not do so, effectively making the vote 13 to 0. 60 Judge Roan also had the power to sentence Frank to the lesser sentence of life imprisonment, even though the jury had not recommended Mercy. On August 26, 1913, judge Roan affirmed the verdict of guilt and sentenced Leo Frank to death by hanging. 61. On October 31, 1913, the court rejected a request for a new trial by the Leo Frank defense team and resentenced Frank to die. The sentence, handed down by judge Benjamin h Hill, was set to be carried out on Frank's 30th birthday, April 17, 1914. 62. Supported by a huge fundraising campaign launched by the American Jewish community and supported by a public relations campaign carried out by innumerable newspapers and publishing companies nationwide, Leo Frank continued to mount a prodigious defense even after his conviction, employing some of the most prominent lawyers in the United States. From August 27, 1913 to April 22, 1915, they filed a long series of appeals to every possible level of the United States court system, beginning with an application to the Georgia Superior Court. That court rejected Frank's appeal as groundless. 63 The next appeal by Frank's dream team of world renowned attorneys was to the Georgia Supreme Court. It was rejected. 64. A second appeal was then made by Frank's lawyers to the Georgia Supreme Court, which was also rejected as groundless. 65. The next appeal by Frank's phalanx of attorneys was to the United States Federal District Court, which also found Frank's arguments unpersuasive and turned down the appeal, affirming that the guilty verdict of the jury should stand. 66 Next, the Frank legal team appealed to the highest court in the land, the United States Supreme Court, which rejected Frank's arguments and turned down his appeal. 67. Finally, Frank's army of counselors made a second appeal to the US Supreme Court, which was also rejected, allowing Leo Frank's original guilty verdict and sentence of death for the murder by strangulation of Mary Fagan to stand. Every single level of the United States legal system. After carefully and meticulously reviewing the trial testimony and evidence, voted in majority decisions to reject all of Leo Frank's appeals and to preserve the unanimous verdict of guilt given to Frank by judge Leonard Strickland Roan and by the 12 man jury at his trial and to affirm the fairness of the legal process which began with Frank's binding over an indictment by the 7 man coroner's jury and 21 man grand jury. 68. It is preposterous to claim that these men and all these institutions, North and South, the coroner's jury, the grand jury, the trial jury, and the judges of the trial court, the Georgia Superior Court, the Georgia Supreme Court, the US Federal District Court, and the United States Supreme Court were motivated by antisemitism in reaching their conclusions. 69. Even in deciding to commute Frank's sentence to life imprisonment, governor John Slaton explicitly affirmed Frank's guilty verdict. He explained that only the jury was the proper judge of the meaning of the evidence and the veracity of the witnesses placed before it. He said in the commutation order itself, quote, many newspapers and non residents have declared that Frank was convicted without any evidence to sustain the verdict. In large measure, those giving expression to this utterance have not read the evidence and are not acquainted with the facts. The same may be said regarding many of those who are demanding his execution. In my judgment, no one has a right to an opinion who was not acquainted with the evidence in the case, and it must be conceded that those who saw the witnesses and beheld their demeanor upon the stand are in the best position as a general rule to reach the truth. End quote. 70. In May of 1915, the Georgia State Prison Board voted 2 to 1 against a clemency petition, which, even if successful, would not have changed the guilty verdict of Leo m Frank. 71. In 1982, Alonzo Mann, who in 1913, at 13 years old, had been the office boy for the National Pencil Company, made a sensation in the press by denying the sworn testimony he had made at the Leo Frank trial and stating his belief that Jim Collie was the real killer of Mary Fagan. In 1913, Mann had testified that he left the office on the day of the murder at 11:30 AM. In 1982, he changed the time and told a quite different story as follows. Mann said that he left the factory at noon, half an hour later than in his testimony. It was Confederate Memorial Day and a parade and other festivities were scheduled. Mann was to meet his mother, he says, but could not find her and, quote, return to work, end quote, shortly afternoon. When he entered the building, he says, he saw Jim Conley carrying the limp body of a girl on the first floor. Quote, he wheeled on me and in a voice that was low but threatening, he said, quote, if you ever mention this, I'll kill you. End quote. Mann claims he then left the building and ran home telling his mother what he'd seen. Mann says that his parents advised him to keep silent to avoid publicity. And he did keep silent for many, many years. Jim Conley is reported to have died in 1957. Another report says 1962. And presumably his death threat did not survive his demise. There are several problems with Mann's story. First, if true, it proves only that, at some point, Conley was carrying Fagan's body by himself, without Frank's help. Conley already admits this. Though he says that he found the body too heavy for himself alone while still on the second floor, and that the elevator brought them directly to the basement. So Mann's story really doesn't address anything except 2 minor details of Conley's testimony, neither of which are determinative of guilt. Man was poor suffering with a heart condition and facing considerable medical expenses when he went public with his claims. 72. Why would a 13 year old Alonzo Mann quote return to work end quote on a holiday if he didn't have to? And why return to work if he apparently wasn't even scheduled to do so? Were office boys permitted to make their own hours in 1913? When other workers, such as Mary Fagan, for example, hadn't sufficient supplies in their department, they were immediately laid off until the supplies came in. Surely, such economy would dictate that office boys would only come in when authorized and asked to do so. 73. If Alonzo Mann had such a definite appointment to meet his mother in town, so definite as to cause him to return to work after just a few minutes when he failed to immediately find her, why then was she waiting at home just a few minutes after that? 74. Why would white parents, like Alonzo Manns, in the racially conscious and segregated Atlanta, Georgia of 1913, tell their white son not to tell the police about a guilty black murderer. When the result of not telling the police would ultimately result in an innocent, clean-cut, white man, Leo Frank, the man who gave their son a highly prized job, going to the gallows as an innocent man? 75. And why would Alonzo Mann's parents then allow their 13 year old son to report to work at the huge and cavernous National Pencil Company factory on Monday morning, April 28, 1913. 2 days after he was threatened with death by a murderer carrying a dead or dying white girl on his shoulder. Knowing that the murderer would still be there, and knowing that there were many dark and secluded places in said factory where their son might come to harm. Jim Conley reported back to work that Monday, as did Alonzo Mann and the approximately 170 other employees, who were expected to be back at work after the holiday weekend. Jim Conley was not arrested until the 1st day of May. 76. If Alonzo Mann really walked in on Jim Conley carrying Mary Fagan's body a few minutes afternoon and then turned around and left the building, why didn't he see Montine Stover? 77. If Joe Conley really attacked Mary Fagan at the foot of the stairs as Alonzo Mann suggests, why didn't Leo Frank hear her scream or any sounds of a struggle? He was only 40 feet away. 78. Several witnesses for both the prosecution and the defense, testified that they saw Jim Conley sitting, doing nothing, in the dark recesses of the lobby of the National Pencil Company on the morning of the murder. Does this fit the contention of the prosecution that Frank requested Conley's presence on that day as he had on others so Conley could be a lookout while Frank was chatting with a teenage girl? Or does it make more sense to believe that Conley really believed he could get away with loafing on company property without permission all morning? Did black janitors in 1913 also have the right to make their own working hours? Even on a holiday when there would have been little call for their services? And then after showing up for work, not work at all? 79. Does it really make sense that the somewhat literate and fairly intelligent Jim Conley, a black man in the extremely race conscious and white dominated Atlanta of 19 13, where Lynch Law often reigned supreme, actually thought he could get away with attacking and killing a white girl just a few feet away from the unlocked front door of the factory, where he worked, in the highest traffic area of the building? And does it make sense that he would do so for $1.20, Mary Fagan's entire pay, as the defense alleged? If Conley was plotting to rob someone, does it make sense that he would choose such a place to do so? Or choose from a pool of potential victims considerably poorer than he was? 80. The fatal Saturday was a holiday. Jim Conley had been paid his $6.5 salary the evening before. By his standards, he had plenty of money, and it would have been very hard to drink it down very much on Friday, at a nickel a pint in those days. Conley was a man who liked his beer and billiards and the town was wide open for that kind of fun all day. Why was he there at the factory then? He certainly wouldn't have wanted to be there doing apparently nothing for hours on end. He also ran the risk of being disciplined if he was loafing there without permission. He was manifestly not sweeping his ostensible job on that day. He was just sitting, watching. The only reasonable explanation is that his boss, Leo Frank, had asked him to be there for that very purpose. 81. The relationship of Leo Frank and the National Pencil Company to Jim Conley was a strange one. Why was Jim Conley's sweeper salary much higher? $6.5 versus $4.5 than the average of the white employees many of whom were skilled machine operators. Could it be that Conley served a very important but secret purpose for Leo Frank exactly as the prosecution alleged? Could he have had knowledge that could potentially hurt Leo Frank justifying Frank granting him special privileges? 82. According to a female National Pencil Company employee, Jim Conley was once caught, quote, sprinkling, end quote, urinating on the pencils. Surely a very serious offense, but Conley was never fired. Trial testimony of Herbert George Schiff, brief of evidence, Leo Frank trial, August 1913. Again, could it be that James Conley served a very important but secret purpose for Leo Frank, and could have he possessed knowledge that could damage Frank? 83. According to fellow employee Gordon Bailey, Leo Frank trial, brief of evidence, August 1913, Jim Conley was not always required to punch the time clock. Why would the Negro sweeper, as they called him, surely the lowest ranking employee in the pencil factory hierarchy, be given such an unprecedented privilege by Leo m Frank? Why was Jim Conley the only person out of the 170 factory employees who didn't have to punch the time clock? Unless Jim Conley was more than meets the eye. 84. In 1983, the Anti Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL, along with other Jewish groups, spearheaded a campaign to get the Georgia State Board of Pardons and Paroles to issue a posthumous pardon to Leo Frank, basing their case largely on the 1982 statement of Alonzo Mann. The board found that Mann's statement added no new evidence to the case. They also noted that Governor Slayton in his 1915 commutation decision had already considered that the elevator may not have been used to move Mary Fagan's body. But nevertheless, he upheld Frank's conviction. The ADL's petition was denied and Leo Frank's guilty verdict was affirmed. 85. The ADL and other Jewish groups filed again in 1986 for Leo Frank to be pardoned by the Georgia State Board of Pardons and Paroles. This time, the Jewish groups claimed that because the state of Georgia had failed to prevent the lynching of Leo Frank, after his sentence was commuted by governor Slayton, Leo Frank's rights have been violated and he should be pardoned on that basis alone. A great deal of pressure was applied to the board via sensational stories, editorials, and even fictionalized accounts in the media. With this far more limited claim, that Frank was not protected from lynching as he ought to have been, the board was compelled to agree. But the board would not and did not exonerate Leo Frank of his guilt for the strangulation death of Mary Anne Fagan on April 26, 1913. His conviction for her murder still stands. 86. Lucille Selig Frank, Leo Frank's wife, is known as a fiercely loyal spouse who passionately defended her husband against charges both criminal and moral, and stood by his side during his trial and appeals. There are some indications, however, that she may have early on during the Mary Fagan case believed that her husband had not been entirely faithful and had in fact killed Mary Fagan, probably believing it to be accidental. Long after her husband's death, she may have returned to those views. States exhibit j that Leo Frank's trial consisted of an affidavit by Manola McKnight, the Franks' black cook. Missus McKnight first came to the attention of the authorities when her husband told police that his wife had heard some startling revelations while working at the Frank residence the evening of the murder. Namely, that Leo Frank had drunkenly and remorsefully admitted to his wife that he and a girl, quote, had been caught, end quote, at the factory, that he, quote, didn't know why he would murder, end quote, her, and that he asked his wife Lucille to get him a pistol so he could kill himself. These are Manola McKnight's own words from the affidavit. Quote, Sunday, miss Lucille said to missus Selig that mister Frank didn't rest so good Saturday night. She said he was drunk and wouldn't let her sleep with him. Miss Lucille said Sunday that mister Frank told her Saturday night that he was in trouble and that he didn't know the reason why he would murder, and he told his wife to get his pistol and let him kill himself. When I left home to go to the solicitor general's office, they told me to mind how I talked. They pay me $3.50 a week, the last week they paid me $4, and 1 week she paid me $6.50. Up to the time of the murder, I was getting $3.50 a week, and the week right after the murder, I don't remember how much she paid me. And the next week, they paid me $3.50. And the next week, they paid me $6.50. And the next week they paid me $4, and the next week they paid me $4. 1 week, I don't remember which one, missus Sally gave me $5, but it wasn't for my work and they didn't tell me what it was for. She just said, quote, here is $5, Manola. End quote. I understood that it was a tip for me to keep quiet. They would tell me to mind how I talked and miss Lucille gave me a hat. End quote. Leo Frank admitted that he bought a box of chocolates for his wife on the way home on the evening of the day of the murder. Manola McKnight would tell a different story after she was back in the Frank household, however. She then repudiated her affidavit and said police had coerced it from her. But neither she nor anyone else has given a credible motive for Manola's husband to have lied. After Leo Frank's arrest, Lucille did not visit her husband for some 13 days, after what she began her loyal and indomitable defense of him. What made her wait? Leo Frank's explanation was that Lucille had to be, quote, physically restrained, end quote, because she wanted so badly to be locked up with him in jail. Judge for yourself the credibility of this explanation against that offered in States exhibit j. Lucille Frank died in 1957. And in her will, she specifically directed that she be cremated and thus not buried next to or with her first and only husband, Leo Frank, even though a plot had already been provided for her next to him. 87. Leonard Dinnerstein is an author who has made almost his entire career writing about antisemitism. With a special concentration on proving that Leo Frank was a victim of antisemitism. His book, The Leo Frank Case, is promoted as a canonical work and is one of the main sources for the claims that, 1, antisemitism was pervasive in 1913 Georgia, and 2, that antisemitism was the major factor in the prosecution and conviction of Frank. Both of these claims are hoaxes as shown by Elliot Dash field writing in the American Mercury. Quote, dinner stein makes his now famous claim that mobs of anti semitic southerners outside the courtroom where Frank was on trial were shouting into the open windows quote crack the Jew's neck end quote and quote, lynch him, end quote. And that members of the crowd were making open death threats against the jury saying that the jurors would be lynched if they didn't vote to hang, quote, the damn sheeny, end quote. But not one of the 3 major Atlanta newspapers who had teams of journalists documenting faint by faint all the events in the courtroom, large and small, and who also had teams of reporters with the crowds outside ever reported these alleged vociferous death threats. And certainly, such a newsworthy event could not be ignored by highly competitive newsmen eager to sell papers and advance their careers. Do you actually believe that the reporters who gave us such meticulously detailed accounts of this trial of the century, even writing about the seating arrangements in the courtroom, the songs sung outside the building by folk singers, and the changeover of court stenographers and relays, will leave out all mention or notice of a murderous mob making death threats to the jury? During the 2 years of Leo Frank's appeals, none of these alleged anti Semitic death threats were ever reported by Frank's own defense team. There is not a word of them in the 3,000 pages of official Leo Frank trial and appeal records. And all this despite the fact that Reuben Arnold, Frank's attorney, made the claim during his closing arguments that Leo Frank was tried only because he was a Jew. Yet, thanks to Leonard Dinerstein, this fictional episode has entered the consciousness of Americans of all stations as history as one of the pivotal facts of the Frank case. End quote. 88. In his book attempting to exonerate Frank, Leonard Dinnerschein knowingly repeats the preposterous 1964 hoax perpetrated by, quote, hack writer and self promoter, Pierre von Passen, End quote. Dashfield, The American Mercury, October 2012. Quote, Van Poisson claimed that there were in existence in 1922 X-ray photographs at the Fulton County Courthouse taken in 1913 of Leo Frank's teeth and also x-ray photographs of bite marks on Mary Fagan's neck and shoulder, and that antisemites had suppressed this evidence. Van Poessen further alleged and Dinnerstein repeated that the dimensions of Frank's teeth did not match the quote bite marks end quote, thereby exonerating Frank. Since Dinnerstein is such a lofty academic scholar and professor, perhaps he simply forgot to ask a current freshman in medical school if it was even possible to x-ray bite marks on skin in 1913, or necessary in 2012 for that matter, because it's not. In 1913, x-ray technology was in its infancy and never used in any criminal case until many years after Leo Frank was hanged. End quote. Furthermore, there is no hint anywhere in the massive official records of the Leo Frank trial and appeals of any, quote, bite marks. End quote. If Leo Frank is manifestly and truly innocent, why do his supporters have to engage in such outrages against truth? 89. Far from being a region rife with hatred for Jews, the South in general and Atlanta in particular were regarded by Jews as a haven and as a place nearly free from the antisemitism they suffered in other parts of the nation and the world. Even today, and even after Jewish gentile relations there were strained by the Frank case, and by Jewish support for the civil rights revolution, the Christians who form most of the population of the South are stoutly pro Jewish. The South is the center of Christian Zionism and American support for the Jewish state of Israel. 90. Harry Golden wrote in the American Jewish Committee's Magazine commentary that early, quote, bonds for Israel, end quote, salesman would purposely seek out southern Christians since they were almost all passionately pro Jewish and pro Israel. When southerners were asked about their reasons for supporting Zionism, Golden said that a typical Southerners response was, quote, it's in the book. End quote. Meaning, of course, the Bible. This attitude had deep roots and certainly did not materialize in 1948. 91. The writer, Scott Aaron, gives insight into southern attitudes towards Jews when he says, quote, in the race conscious south of 1913, Jews were considered white. In fact, in the newspapers of Atlanta before, during, and after the trial of Leo Frank for the murder of Mary Fagan, Frank was referred to as a, quote, white man, end quote, on innumerable occasions by reporters, witnesses, African Americans, fellow Jews, pro Frank partisans, and anti Frank polemicists. Jews, furthermore, were not known for violent acts or crimes nor feared as violators of white women. If anything, they were seen as an unusually industrious intelligent and law abiding segment of society even if they were a bit peculiar in their religious views. Marriage between Jews and Christians might have raised a few eyebrows in both communities, just as did intermarriage between members of widely different Christian denominations. But it was far from unknown and such couples were not ostracized. In fact, Leo Frank's own brother-in-law, mister Ehrsenbach, with whom he canceled an appointment to see a baseball game on the day Mary Fagan was killed, was a Christian. If there was prejudice against Leo Frank in 1913 Atlanta, it was almost certainly not because he was a Jew. He was, however, a capitalist, a business owner, a manager, an employer of child labor, and a Northerner with an Ivy League education. He also came to be known during the course of the trial as sexually profligate. These facts probably did count against him. End quote. 92. Aaron also cites a study funded and published by a Jewish group. Quote, John Higum in his social discrimination against Jews 18/30 to 19 30, a work commissioned by the American Jewish Committee called the South quote historically the section least inclined to ostracize Jews, end quote, and drew attention to the, quote, striking southern situation, end quote, of almost no discrimination against Jews there. True, Jewish gentile relations had somewhat declined there by the mid 20th century and the massive campaign during the Frank appeals to paint his prosecution and the South generally as anti Semitic, and the eventual creation of the Anti Defamation League in the wake of Frank's death, played their part in this change. But the aftermath of the Frank trial had no part, of course, in the attitudes of the people of Atlanta on the day Mary Fagan was murdered. All things considered, the South in general and Atlanta in particular seem to have been, if anything, safe havens for Jews where they might escape from the antisemitism that was rampant around the beginning of the last century. End quote. 93. Southern attitudes toward Jews can be further gauged by the fact that during the civil war, southerners made a Jew their secretary of the treasury. Judah p Benjamin was the first Jewish appointee to any cabinet position in any North American government. Benjamin also served as attorney general, secretary of state, and secretary of war for the confederate states of America. He was so highly regarded that his portrait graced the paper money of the south. Meanwhile, around the same time, Northern general Ulysses s Grant issued an order physically expelling all Jews from the parts of the South under his control, even demanding that they leave a huge multistate area, quote, within 24 hours, end quote. The claim that a pervasive and vicious antisemitism was the real reason for the prosecution and conviction of Leo Frank is an absurd lie and a fantastic misrepresentation of history. Nevertheless, it is now the stuff of innumerable works of alleged scholarship, drama and fiction, and is viewed by naive students who are exposed to such works as the central truth of the case. If Leo Frank were innocent, why would his supporters have to fabricate such blatant impostures and engage in emotional blackmail on a colossal scale? 94. Researcher Allen Kernigsberg states that some of the most intriguing and important parts of the Nola McKnight sworn affidavits have, for some reason or other, been completely omitted from the current literature on the Frank case. Quote, one of the most intriguing circumstances in the pretrial development of this case involved a document signed by the black cook in the Frank slash Selig household, Manola McKnight. Frank's attorneys would long argue that it was coerced by the police as a result of, quote, 3rd degree methods, end quote. Since 1913, it has never been shown in its entirety, and we are glad to present it here at leofrankcase.com. Also unmentioned in the last 9 decades is the sequence of events that led up to its appearance. Manolo would make 3 affidavits in all, May 3rd, June 2nd, and 3rd. But her overnight incarceration was specifically caused by her husband Albert's statement made on May 26th and notarized on June 2nd. This description of events has never been cited with only an oblique reference in the Samuels night fell on Georgia 1956. The most striking sentence, an odd omission, is shown here for the first time. Quote, missus Frank had a quarrel with mister Frank. The Saturday morning of the murder, she asked mister Frank to kiss her goodbye, and she said he was saving his kisses for, blank, and would not kiss her, end quote. Readers may wish to consider its authenticity as new light is shed on why Leo Frank, quote, so thoughtfully, end quote, bought his wife a box of chocolates from Jacob's Pharmacy just before returning home at 6:30 PM on April 26th, end quote. Leofrankcase.com retrieved 2012. 95. Much has been made of the fact that Jim Conley's attorney, William m Smith, eventually believing his own client to be guilty, made an analysis of the language used by Conley on the stand and comparing it to the language used in the death notes, concluded that the real author of the notes was Conley. Therefore, Smith's theory went. The notes had not been dictated by Leo Frank as Conley had testified. Many greeted this revelation with well deserved derision. Few believe that Frank would have insisted that Conley copy his language exactly word for word. Though, Hugh Dorsey made the mistake of suggesting this was so in his closing arguments. In fact, the death notes would serve their intended purpose, to place blame for the murder on a black man, much more effectively by being written in the natural language of an authentic speaker of southern black dialect. And surely that is a fact that no intelligent murderer would fail to see and act upon. 96. In his book, A Little Girl is Dead, writer Harry Golden, though not incapable of objective journalism, for example, he once reported that Southerners had unusually favorable attitudes to Jews, may have perpetrated the most outrageous hoax in the Frank case. Golden claimed that Jim Conley had made a deathbed confession to the murder of Mary Fagan. But famed pro Frank researcher and author, Steve Oney, very charitably, says of Golden that this was, quote, wishful thinking, end quote. Oni went to great lengths to follow-up on Golden's claim. Over the last few years, legal aids have rifled through microfilm files and libraries across the south searching for news of Conley's confession. They have found nothing. End quote. Oni, quote, the lynching of Leo Frank, end quote, Esquire, September 1985. 97. It seems unlikely that Hugh Dorsey was motivated by antisemitism in his prosecution of Leo Frank, considering that a partner in his law firm was Jewish. It's preposterous to even have to ask the question, but if Dorsey hated Jews enough to send one to the gallows as an innocent man, why would he tolerate, and proudly claim, as he did at trial, such a close association with a Jewish man? And if Dorsey was guilty of such vicious malice against Jews, why would his partner continue the association himself? Closing arguments of Hugh Dorsey, Leo Frank trial. 98. Why did the Leo Frank defense team consisting of some of the most skilled attorneys in the state refused to cross examine 20 young women and girls who testified that Frank had a bad moral character. Under Georgia law, the prosecution was only allowed to use these witnesses' testimony to enter the general fact that Frank's character was bad. Under cross examination though, the defense could have forced the girls and women to give specific reasons and relate specific incidents that supported their opinion, and tripped them up if they could. Why then did they not do so? The only reasonable answer. They knew Leo Frank's character and they did not dare allow any specifics to go before the jury. 99. One of the most bizarre hoaxes in the Fagan case was that surrounding insurance salesman, w h Mincey. On the afternoon of the murder, Minty claimed that Jim Conley, on the public streets of Atlanta and with no prompting, and for no apparent reason whatever, confessed to murdering a girl that very day. According to the contemporary book, The Frank Case, page 66, Quote, Mincy asserted that late in the afternoon, he was at the corner of Electric Avenue and Carter Streets, near the home of Conley, when he approached the black asking that he take an insurance policy. The Negro told him, he said, to go along, that he was in trouble. Asked what his trouble was, Mincy swore that Conley replied he had killed a girl. Quote, you are Jack the Ripper, are you? End quote, said Mincy. Quote, no. End quote. He says, calmly replied, quote, I killed a white girl and you better go along or I will kill you. End quote. That this tale could be accepted by any man in possession of his reason is doubtful. But nevertheless, the Frank defense team seriously asserted in court their intention to call Mincy as a witness. They withdrew him, however, after the prosecution was said to have discovered Mincy's problematic relationship with the truth and had 25 witnesses prepared to impeach him. And furthermore, intended to produce copies of several books Mincy had written on the subject of, quote, mind reading. End quote. 100. Mary Fagan's grand niece, Mary Fagan Keen, relates in her book, The Murder of Little Mary Fagan, that her grandfather, William Joshua Fagan junior, Mary Fagan's brother, confronted Jim Conley in private in 1934 and was ultimately convinced that the former factory sweeper was telling the truth. At times so emotionally moved that he could barely hold back tears, William Fagan finally told Conley that he believed him and said that if he had thought he was lying, quote, I'd kill you myself, end quote. After the intense meeting was over, Jim Conley and Mary Fagan's brother went out for a drink. In truth, there are more, far more than 100 reasons to believe that Leo Frank was guilty of murdering Mary Fagan. There are far more than 100 reasons to believe that the claim of widespread quote Southern antisemitism end quote, virtually promoted as gospel today is a complete and malicious fraud. There are far more than 100 reasons to believe that Frank's defenders have used perjury, fraud, and outright hoaxes to impose their view of the case on an unsuspecting public. I urge each and every one of you to read the original source materials I have cataloged in the appendix which follows this article. Only by seeing what the jury saw, by reading what the people of Atlanta read as events unfolded, uncensored and without the nuance and spin of modern authors who are, with but a very few exceptions, uniformly dedicated to one side. Can you truly understand the tragedy of little Mary Fagan and the whirlwind her death unleashed? In my opinion, the most horrible imposture, the real injustice in the Frank case as it stands today, is that millions of trusting men and women, children and students, all across the world have been forcefully imprinted by a relentless and multimillion dollar media campaign with the idea that Leo Frank, the monster who almost certainly abused and strangled bright and beautiful Mary Anne Fagan to death, is the real victim in this case. Speaker 1: For Mary Fig unleased her home on blooming teen bro day. And that being a holiday aborted him the time. Him you merry well. That if he lives and lives alive, the story he would heal. And this is why he fought so hard with all her brave young might. Like a here and poor Mary died for what to hear was right. But she has won eternal life in
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The video explores controversial perspectives and claims regarding the Holocaust, including questioning the evidence and narrative surrounding it. It highlights the role of Jewish individuals in historical events such as the Russian Revolution and the slave trade. The video also criticizes Jewish influence in Hollywood and the media, suggesting manipulation and control of the narrative. It challenges the credibility of Holocaust survivors and the existence of gas chambers, while accusing Jews of being responsible for the atrocities of World War II. However, it concludes by emphasizing the significance of remembering history and avoiding the repetition of past mistakes.
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Speaker 0: The Holocaust is a very sensitive topic. It's a very serious event with a very serious accusation against Germany, Adolf Hitler, National Socialism, and the white Europeans in general. The Holocaust is a guilt complex that lives inside all white people and portrays the European race as the evilest race in history, and it's one of the main tools used to criticize any European nation that tries to nationalize their country against mass immigration and foreign Jewish control. Nationalists will often be called a Nazi as being called a Hitler is now synonymous with being called a racist. Europeans are being accused of constructing mass murdering facilities to exterminate the Jewish people. There's no real logical reason given. The Nazis just randomly decided that one day they hated the Jews and that they all must die. We're told that the Jews became more successful than the Germans in Germany and the Germans became jealous of Jewish success. The fact that the Jews controlled German banks, destroyed the German economy, and betrayed the Germans during World War 1 to the Entente, causing millions of German deaths is not even talked about. The Germans were just jealous of how the Jews didn't seem to work, and yet they seem to own everything. Now the secret to understanding the Holocaust lies in Russia. You cannot begin to understand Nazi Germany without understanding Jewish Bolshevism or communism. So let's examine the Jewish revolution in Russia, the power of Jewish propaganda, evidence surrounding the Holocaust, and sources on Holocaust revision. Now there really isn't an event in all of history that can be compared to the Holocaust where gas chambers were constructed for the sole purpose of exterminating the Jewish people. The closest thing we have can be found in books or Hollywood movies, which Hollywood is ironically completely run by Jews as most of the publishing is run by Jews as well. The closest event we have that can be compared to the Holocaust in recent history is the conquest of Christian Russia, where Jewish men slaughtered between 5 to 10,000,000 Christian Russians during the civil war. Many more Russians would die after, as well as another 11,000,000 would die in the Jewish ordered famine known as the Holodomor. Between 20 to 30,000,000 Orthodox Christians would die at the hands of Jewish communists. The same in China, between 65 to 85000000 Chinese would die at the hands of Mao Zedong, who was completely funded and advised by Jews. Communism is an ideology that was mainly written by Jew Karl Marx, who's the father of Marxism and a descendant of Talmudic Jewish rabbis. Jewish bankers funded the spread of communism, as majority of the leaders and advisers were Jewish as well. So the only other event that we have that can be compared to the Holocaust is the mass murdering done by Jews to Christians and to Chinese through the Jewish communist movement. Now, the Jews don't provide a single logical reason as to why people might hate them. The Jews just claimed they were very successful and God's chosen superior race, and that the Germans were just jealous and blamed the Jews for Germany's problems. Jews refused to acknowledge their role in the largest massacres in history as a potential reason as to why people might hate them, or that throughout the millenniums, the Jews have gained control over nations through corrupt banking practices that Christianity forbids. My country alone pays a 100 and $60,000,000 per day in taxes to pay back interest to bankers, for simply lending us money that we could have just loaned to ourselves. This becomes key to understanding the hatred Jews have for Christians and why it's so important to destroy Jesus and Christianity, as Jesus was the first man in recorded history to rise up against the Jewish bankers who had enslaved the Roman Empire through usury and war. It's important to note that the Holocaust has a dual purpose. European and American children are forced to visit the concentration camps or Holocaust museums where they are force fed the story that European Christians tried to genocide the Jews for simply being Jewish. While Jewish children are flown into Europe and told that Christian Europeans tried to genocide their people for simply being Jewish. The white European children leave with a guilt complex. They leave confused, trying to understand how their race could be so evil to the Jews. This creates Jewish sympathy. So when Europeans hear that Jews are enslaving the world through corrupt banking practices or how the Jews control the porn industry, the world media, politicians, the alcohol industry, or how the Jews have conquered Palestine, we just think of the Holocaust and let the Jews do what they want. However, when the Jews leave the museums and concentration camps, they leave with an anger complex, Never forgive, never forget, and never again. Listen to how this young Jewish girl felt after leaving Auschwitz. These young Jewish teenagers leave the camp full of rage, wanting to exterminate the European race as they will soon be conscripted into the Israeli Defence Force to fight the evil Palestinians. These Jewish teenagers are completely unaware that their ancestors are responsible for the largest massacres in history and that the Jewish bankers who founded Israel are responsible for funding almost all major wars. Through Jewish banks and the Jewish media, the Jews have played a major role in killing 100 of millions of people. These Jews are told that the whole world hates them, but nobody bothers to explain why. So before we can make sense of the Holocaust, let's go back in time to the Russian Revolution, and let's look at the closest event we have to the Holocaust. The Holocaust will make more sense if we build a timeline looking at key moments in history leading up to Nazi Germany. Now we call it the Russian Revolution, which isn't really correct. About 85% of the leaders of the revolution were Jewish when the Jews only made up about 2 to 4 percent of the Russian Empire. Now we don't know exactly how many Jews were living in Russia. The Russians had a hard time counting the Jews, mainly because they hid their numbers to avoid paying taxes. And because they all dressed the same, it made it difficult for the Russians to identify them. If a Jew committed a crime against a Christian, it would be almost impossible to prove which Jew committed the crime, because their descriptions were almost identical. Keep in mind, there's nothing in the Bible that tells these people to dress like a cult. Other Jews did take Russian names and blend in more with Russian society. So the Russian Revolution wasn't really Russian. It was in fact Jewish. Here's an example. Let's imagine there was a revolution in your country, and let's imagine that 85% of the leaders of this revolution were Muslims. Some of Middle Eastern descent born and raised in your country, others born and raised in the Middle East. Imagine these Muslims took over your government, murdered your monarch or president, killed all your prominent citizens, your politicians, your judges, your lawyers and doctors, and then starved millions of your people, and then placed Muslims in key positions in the newly formed government while confiscating all your land and possessions, not to mention they're being financed by Muslims from the Middle East. We would without a doubt call this a Muslim revolution. However, when the Jews did it to the Russians, we called it the Russian Revolution. So that tiny 2 to 4 percent of Jews living in Russia managed to overthrow the Russian government with Western Jewish bankers financing them. We're a 100 years into the future, and almost nobody on earth knows that the Russian Revolution never really existed. It was in fact a Jewish revolution against Christian Russia. It's interesting when we look at the Russian Revolution. We see that the Bolshevik Jewish communists literally defeated the most powerful countries in the world. When the civil war in Russia began in 1917, the Russian reds represented the communists, and the Russian whites represented the Christian czars trying to take back their country from the Jews. When we look at who fought for who, we see Canada, the United States, France, Great Britain, Japan, China, and Australia were against the communist reds. That's pretty amazing, considering that not even the Germans, Hungarians, Austrians, and Ottomans together could defeat the entente. But we are made to believe that this Jewish uprising that massacred all the Christian Russians had the power to stop them. We can call this the betrayal of the whites. While the Western Jewish bankers funded both the communist movement and the entente, the entente pretended to declare war on the Reds, while sabotaging the whites from behind. The communists were made to believe that they defeated the whites and the capitalist world single handedly. However, General Kolchak, the leader of the White Russian army, was betrayed and handed over to the Reds for execution, as general Rangel, who became the leader of the whites after Kolchak, said in his farewell speech from Crimea that the whites were betrayed by the entente, which was confirmed by General Ludendorff of Germany, where he said, there are great changes happening in the east. In March, the revolution supported by the entente to dethrone the tsar. I do not understand the motives of the entente to go hand in hand with the revolution, but it is clear and without a doubt that the entente wanted to profit from the revolution for their military purposes. General Rangel would flee to Constantinople, where he would be poisoned a few years later. The Jewish bankers were now in full control of Russia, thanks to the treacherous entente. Once the whites were defeated, the entente would pull out of Russia, and the Jews would begin to slaughter the defenseless Christians and destroy the Russian Orthodox Church. Here are just a few of the Jews who played a key role in communism and the Jewish Revolution. We have Jew Karl Marx, who founded Marxism and wrote the Communist Manifesto. He came from a prominent Talmudic rabbinical family. We have Jew Vladimir Lenin, who was the leader of the revolution. He returned from exile to Russia in a sealed train car after the first failed Jewish revolution of 1905. He returned with financial aid for the revolution, also 90% of the people in the train with him were Jews. Lenin happens to be the brother of Alex Ulanov who was hanged as a traitor after he tried to assassinate Tsar Alexander the third. Jew Alexander Kerensky or Aaron Kibberts who the Tsar trusted was placed in charge of the Russian provisional government when the czar abdicated, and he is probably the biggest traitor in Russian history. He helped dissolve the Russian government and army, and handed the country over to the communists. He was also a childhood friend of Lenin. Jew Jacobs Fairlov along with Jude Isay Isakovich Goloshokan and Jude Yakov Yarovski were responsible for the rapes and murders of the Romanov family. Jew Leon Trotsky or Lev Davidovich Braunstein was the military leader of the revolution and was married to Natalia Sadova, the daughter of Jewish banker and merchant Abram Zhebotowski who had connections to Jewish banking families, Rothschilds, Warburgs and Schiffs. We have Jew Lazar Khaganovich, who played a key role in starving 11,000,000 Christians and became Stalin's right hand man. Jew Genrik Yagoda would command the genocides in Russia. He was also in charge of the gulag prison systems which made Hitler's labor camps look like Disneyland. Jagoda instructed Jew Naftali Finkel to design the Christian Gulag concentration camps. This all happened within the 15 years before the Nazis came to power. The Jewish list goes on. I could probably spend the next 2 hours listing off all the Jews involved in the destruction of Russia. Now none of these Jewish atrocities are in my history books. There's not a single Hollywood movie talking about the Jews mass murdering Christian Europeans. And if it is mentioned, white European Christians are usually blamed for what the Jews did even though the orders and financing came from Jews. This makes Jews extremely dangerous. They can pick and choose when they are white, and when they are Jews, when they are a religion, and when they are a race. Now again, all of this happened between World War 1 and the rise of Hitler. In fact, the 11,000,000 Christians who were starved to death were starved as Hitler was coming to power. So even if Hitler had killed 6,000,000 Jews, he did it after the Jews killed 30,000,000 Christian Europeans. Hitler would have to kill an additional 24,000,000 Jews just to even the score, and that would wipe out the Jewish race completely. Everybody knows of Auschwitz today, but who has ever heard of Kalima, Magadan, the Solovetsky Islands, and the great centers of massive death in Siberia? On the Zoom? Now most of the Holocaust stories come from the Jewish Soviet Union. Most of Hitler's gas chambers were ironically found in territories occupied by the Jews. In fact, there was not a single credible death camp found on the Allied side, and the only gas chamber found on the Allied side was at the Howe, where the Americans admit that they reconstructed a shower room in 1948 to look like a gas chamber, to simulate what a Nazi gas chamber would look like, as the sign clearly says gas chamber never used. So we have to trust the biggest mass murderers in history to tell us how evil the Nazis were, while the world is completely unaware that the biggest serial killers in history were Jews. This would be like walking in on a known serial killer as he's massacring a room full of people and then asking him if he could write the police report and give the official version of what happened. The story would then be forced on the people, and anyone who questions the evidence or his version of the story will be beaten, called a racist, and then thrown in jail. I find it interesting that gradually since the Napoleonic wars, all the Christian monarchs have been conquered, killed, or replaced with democratic governments, while the monarchs just sit in the background as mere puppets. So we're going to examine the evidence of the Holocaust, like crime scene investigators, and like judges in a courtroom. Now I want to put up a disclaimer and state that I am half Jewish. Some of my cousins are Orthodox Jews. My aunt is technically a Holocaust survivor. Though she never stepped foot in a concentration camp, she is legally defined as a Holocaust survivor because she's a Jew who lived in Europe under Nazi occupation. She receives money from the German government, but the non Jews who were actually in labor camps received nothing. So for legal purposes, I want to state loud and clear that I believe in the official version of the Holocaust, that 6,000,000 Jews died, maybe even 6,000,000,000 Jews died, because if I don't believe the official version of the Holocaust, I could go to jail. My country, as well as many other countries, have made Holocaust denial or Holocaust revision against the law. This is the only historical event that is protected by law. So for legal purposes, I believe in the Holocaust, but from now on, I'm going to be acting as a Holocaust denier. Please note that the term Holocaust denier is a little arrogant. It's to imply that the event took place as a matter of fact and that only an idiot would question it. As a Jew, I can tell you firsthand that we don't meet in synagogue to discuss how we fake the Holocaust. In fact, my synagogue would fly in Austrian Christians once a year who would come and teach us how Christians tried to genocide the Jews. Jews are far more brainwashed than non Jews in a lot of ways. We actually think that Christians want to kill us for no reason. So please understand that the majority of Jews are brainwashed and enslaved by the 1% of Jews at the top who claim to speak for all of us. So now that I'm taking the role of a denier, I can say that there is little to no physical evidence to prove the Holocaust. The evidence we're going to cover is going to completely contradict with everything you've been taught and with everything you learned in school. What I find interesting is whenever there is a view that contradicts the official version of a serious historical event that could bring unwanted attention on the Jews, the Jews use all their power to prevent it from coming out into the open, like how Amazon was under pressure to stop selling books that contradicted the official version of the Holocaust and the official story of World War 2. The most powerful online bookseller in the world had to pull these books because of how fast they were circulating and because of the content written inside. The Holocaust is the only event in history that didn't require any physical evidence to prove. It is 100% based on what witnesses say and the testimonies of German officers who were being tortured and killed. The witnesses also receive money for their testimonies. So 1,000,000,000 of dollars have been given to the Jews because of the Holocaust. We usually call that a bribe or a conflict of interest, but when you're Jewish, it's called reparations. In any normal court, you actually can't legally call someone dead unless there is a body, and an autopsy has to be performed to give an official cause of death. None of the bodies found prove there was a gas chamber or genocide, and no autopsy was ever performed on a single body to confirm death by gassing. I'm not saying people didn't die, and, yes, we have pictures, but nobody can prove who all these people are and that they died from gassing. Now before we get into the facts, we're going to have to cover some history leading up to the Holocaust. I would ask you to forget what you think you know for a moment. Let the evidence speak for itself. Let's look at actions and motives because actions speak much louder than words. Evidence will almost always take priority over witnesses because evidence doesn't generally lie. Speaker 1: But with Speaker 0: the Holocaust, you're going to find it's the opposite. It's not about evidence. It's about witnesses. As people are waking up to the truth about the Holocaust and Adolf Hitler, not only are books being banned, but the Jews are using their greatest weapon of all, movies and entertainment, to shield themselves and point the blame at others. So let's look at Jewish produced movies which cover up key historical facts. We need to disarm the Jewish propaganda machine before we can make sense of the Holocaust. So let's look at a movie that was released called Denial. It's a movie funded by Jews about Jews starring a Jew, about a court case between a Jewish professor named Deborah Lipstadt and historian David Irving, where this historian provides some damning evidence that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz and that Auschwitz was a labor camp where most of the people in these camps were killed by the allies constantly bombing German civilian farms, railroads, bridges, and roads. This prevented the Germans from resupplying the camps, causing starvation, death, and disease. Speaker 2: I say to you quite tastelessly that more women died on the back seat of senator Edward Kennedy's car at Chappaquiddick that ever died in a gas chamber at Auschwitz. Speaker 3: It is my pleasure to introduce professor Deborah Lipstadt. Whatever the reasons that people become deniers, they often have an agenda which they won't admit to. Speaker 4: Why do you continually denigrate the work of David Irving? Speaker 3: You can have opinions about the holocaust, but I won't meet with anyone who says the holocaust didn't happen. Speaker 2: Professor Liftsdaddy, I am that David Irving, and I've got a $1,000 to give anyone who can show me a document that proves the Holocaust. Speaker 3: I will not debate you. Not here. Not now. Not Speaker 5: here. Well Speaker 6: Auschwitz is at the very center of holocaust belief, so it's at the very center of holocaust denial. Speaker 1: There were Speaker 2: no gas chambers anywhere at our feet. And here, it's one of the largest killing machines in human history. You Speaker 4: know what it is. It's how we prove what it is. Speaker 3: What if we lose? Suddenly becomes acceptable to say the Holocaust didn't happen? Speaker 2: The word denial is particularly evil. Speaker 3: Freedom of speech means you can say whatever you want. Speaker 2: The phrase is a poison to which there is no antidote. Speaker 3: What you can't do is lie and expect not to be accountable for it. Speaker 2: There are no holes in that roof. Therefore, there never were any gas chambers. Speaker 0: Now I just want to draw your attention to the fact that as Holocaust denial is on the rise, the Jews create a film to sway public opinion in their favor. The actor who plays David Irving, the evil Holocaust denier, is Timothy Spall, who seems to be strategically casted. Most of us identify him as Wormtail or Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter, the evil villain who betrayed Harry Potter's family and friends and got them all killed. So let's go over some history and the power of Jewish propaganda as we dive into the evidence surrounding the Holocaust. So let's follow the timeline starting from the Holocaust in 1941 to 1945, and let's work backwards. The Holocaust begins at the same moment the Nazis invaded the Jewish Soviet Union. I guess while the Germans were holding off the Allies in the West and invading the world's largest recorded military in the east, they managed to find the time and resources to construct gas chambers for the purpose of mass killing Jews. It's not like they had bigger things to worry about, like Jewish communism conquering Europe, not to mention that it would have been much easier and logical for them to simply starve the Jews instead of wasting countless amounts of resources in gassing and burning the bodies. They only needed to copy how the Jews massacred all the Christians in the East. Prior to the invasion of the Jewish Soviet Union in 1941, Hitler and the Zionists made an agreement to allow the Jews to leave Europe in safety with all their wealth intact, known as the Havara Agreement or the Transfer Agreement from 1933 to 1939. Thanks to Hitler allowing the Jews to leave Germany with German wealth and technology, this helped the Jews in Palestine enormously in building Israel's foundation. Before the Havar agreement in 1933, we have the Jews declaring war on Germany as Hitler was coming to power. Between 1933 1918, we had the Jewish run Weimar Republic where Jews were overrepresented in almost every field, just like they are today. Germany was turned into the suicide, prostitution, and drug capital of the world. In 1918, as the Jews were conquering Russia, communist Jews like Kurt Eisner, Rosa Luxemburg, and Paul Levy tried to overthrow Germany but were stopped by the returning German World War 1 veterans. Now the Jewish revolution in Russia started in October 1917, and, coincidentally, within about a week of the October Revolution, as Jews were taking over Russia, the English would openly promise the Jewish Rothschild banking family Palestine in the Balfour Declaration. This is interesting because the last time the Jews were in Palestine was when they murdered Jesus. Jesus was murdered because he rose up against the Jewish bankers and the Jewish priests, and now we have a Christian monarch promising Jewish bankers Palestine, while the Jews are massacring Christians and blowing up churches funded by these same Jewish bankers. The Jewish revolutionaries were also financed by the same Jews who were financing all the wars against the Russians prior to the Jewish takeover, the Jewish Warburgs in Germany, the Jewish Rothschilds in England and France, and Jews Jacob Schiff and Paul Warburg, who are controlling the Federal Reserve Bank in the United States. It's interesting that president Woodrow Wilson was being advised by Jew Bernard Barouch, who allowed the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank right before World War 1 and handed the bank over to Jews. Let's draw a connection to all these Jewish bankers. From Kun and Loeb Bank, which is Lehman Brothers today, we have Jacob Schiff, who comes from a family of Jewish rabbis. His father was Moses Schiff, who worked for the Jewish Rothschild Banking family, who are the personal advisors to the British royal family today. He was married to Theresa Loeb, the daughter of Solomon Loeb, whose other daughter was Nina Loeb and was married to Paul Warburg. Paul Warburg was one of the founders of the Federal Reserve Bank. And while he sat as the governor for the Federal Reserve from 1914 to 1918, the duration of World War 1, his brother, Max Warburg, had the exact same job in Germany as he sat on the board of the Reichbank and was adviser to the last Kaiser of Germany, Kaiser Wilhelm the second. Yes. That's right. While Christian Germany and Christian America were told to kill each other, these 2 Jewish brothers sat in the back financing and advising opposing sides. Max Warburg would sell his bank and flee to America as Hitler changed all the banking policies in the 19 thirties. Now we also have JP Morgan, who apparently isn't Jewish, but was one of the founders of the Federal Reserve. He also owned General Electric and the Titanic. It's interesting that the most powerful men in America who opposed the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank all happened to die in the Titanic that JP Morgan owned. While all the men who had the power to stop the Jews in JP Morgan boarded JP Morgan's doomed ship, JP Morgan and his close friend, Milton s Hershey, the owner of Hershey Chocolates, luckily canceled their voyages at the last minute. John Jacob Astor was said to be the richest man in the world and the largest landowner in America. He was also JPMorgan's rival. With John Jacob Astor dead, JPMorgan stood unopposed, and JPMorgan and Thomas Edison would crush John Jacob Astor's partner, Nikola Tesla, and become the masters of the electrical era. The Titanic would be wounded on the 14th April and sink the morning after. And now with all these men dead, the Federal Reserve would be created the following year in 1913, as World War 1 would start in 1914. These bankers would also help fund Jews, Trotsky and Lenin, in the destruction of Russia just a few years later in 1917. Russia was the last major European country that was not under Jewish control. Ironically, 14 years before the Titanic, there was a book called The Wreck of the Titan. The book was about an unsinkable ship that hit an iceberg on its starboard side in the month of April, just off the coast of Terra Nova or Newfoundland. It didn't have enough lifeboats, and most of the people happened to die. They recently released a movie called Bitter Harvest, which portrays the evil genocide committed by Jews against the Christians. However, the Jewish serial killers who organized the genocide are nowhere to be found as the movie seeks to make the Russians and Ukrainians hate each other by blaming the Russians for what the Jews did. Speaker 6: I was born in a country where anything was possible. We celebrated simple freedoms to live and to love. Speaker 3: I remain. Speaker 6: But there have always been those Speaker 7: who would Speaker 6: try to take our freedom. Speaker 8: Ukraine must be taught to bow to our will. Without its vast harvest of grain, Russia cannot exist. Take all their food. Speaker 9: This would mean the death of 1,000,000. Speaker 8: Who in the world will know? Speaker 0: The Jews cannot afford to let the Russians and Ukrainians know the truth, that they were both massacred by the same Jewish communists. Russians and Ukrainians are brothers, and the international Jews cannot allow or afford to have the Slavic people uniting under a Christian banner, which is why Ukraine remains the center of conflict in Eastern Europe. Here's a clip from the film defamation. Speaker 8: The first example of what Foxman is talking about was a meeting with a special adviser to the Ukrainian president, Yushchenko. The Ukrainian government would like to distance itself from the embrace of the Russians and strengthen its ties with the West, most especially the United States. They believe that the Jews can become their allies in the US Congress. Speaker 6: We come to celebrate your democracy, but we also come with mixed feelings. The history of Jewish people in this country is primarily one of tragic. We would like to see a more, active, a more aggressive approach to dealing with issues of anti semitism. It took a long Speaker 8: Foxman is concerned about the Ukrainian government's comparison of the famine in the Ukraine before World War 2 with the holocaust. Speaker 6: The one thing that you need to be sensitive about is not to link it Speaker 10: with the colonies. Speaker 6: Be careful that it's not be played as your genocide, our genocide because that will be counterproductive on all sides. Speaker 11: We are, of course, Speaker 12: respect Holocaust. And, I understood your message, and we try to be very, very diplomatic. Speaker 0: Please understand what you just saw. You saw Abe Foxman, the national director of the Jewish Anti Defamation League, telling the Ukrainians to agree to downplay the Jews massacring millions of Ukrainians if they want to gain American support. Not only does this show you that the Jews do not want the genocides linked, but it also shows you that the power the Jews hold over the American Congress. Recently, as people are waking up to the truth about Adolf Hitler, the Jews would make a film called Dunkirk. Speaker 2: The enemy tanks have stopped. Why? Why waste precious tanks when they can pick us off from the air like fish in a barrel? Speaker 0: Dunkirk remains one of World War two's greatest mysteries. Hitler had the entire allied army surrounded. Hitler and the Nazis could have annihilated the allies, but instead, Hitler allowed them to go back to England and return to their families, and then he offered them peace. Hitler understood that this war was against Jewish communism and wanted England's support in fighting this evil ideology. England thanked the Germans with relentless bombing raids on German civilians. Because the English had heavy casualties on daytime bombing missions, the cowardly allies switched to nighttime bombing, bombing anywhere they could find light with little to no visibility. The heroic allies burned German women and children alive as they slept. The Americans and British would drop about 3,000,000 metric tons of bombs over Nazi occupied Europe. Hitler and the Nazis would drop between 2 to 3 percent of that with a total of 74,000 metric tons of bombs. About 1 month after the evil Nazis allowed the English to return home alive, the evil Nazis and evil Hitler would drop peace leaflets, begging the Allies to look to reason and stop the war. Here, we see British soldiers mockingly holding up Hitler's plea for peace. Let's read some of evil Hitler's words. In this hour, I feel it to be my duty before my own conscience to appeal once more to reason and common sense in Great Britain as much as elsewhere. I consider myself in a position to make this appeal since I am not the vanquished begging favors, but the victor speaking in the name of reason. I can see no reason why this war must go on. I am grieved to think of the sacrifices it will claim. It's important to note that Hitler allowed the allies to return to England, offered them peace, endured 3 months of cowardly English bombing before saying enough is enough, and ordered attacks on England that led up to the Battle of Britain. This is confirmed not only by the dates of the bombings, but by Hitler himself in his speeches. So for all you British and Americans out there who think you were the good guys, you can thank Churchill, Roosevelt, the monarchy, and the Jewish bankers ruling England and America for all your dead citizens and soldiers who ignored the plea for peace, as England and the Americans would burn alive over 600,000 German civilians. These are the glorious allies, the biggest cowards in world history. I'm sure you're thinking, what does the slave trade have to do with the Holocaust? To which I would say, nothing and everything. In the 19 nineties, people started waking up to the Jewish factor in the transatlantic slave trade, which the Jews completely dominated, professor Tony Martin goes over many Jewish sources exposing the Jewish men and companies who were responsible for the African Diaspora. As scholars began exposing the Jews, the Jews in Hollywood would finance Jew Steven Spielberg to make a movie called Amnestad, showing Christian Americans as cruel slave masters with no care for African lives. While crypto Jews like Aaron Lopez were masters of the slave trade. But how many African Americans know that their original masters were Jews? About 1.2 percent of Americans owned slaves, and about 40% of them were Jews, which is scary because the Jews were only 1 percent of the American population. Abraham Lincoln battled the Confederate States in the American Civil War, which was funded by Jewish bankers from England. Abraham Lincoln wanted to free the slaves and bring them back to Africa where he said they belonged. The Christian Russians and the Russian czar would become the saviors of America as they prevented Jewish controlled France and England from interfering in the American Civil War. The tsar placed his navy in key positions in the event England and France attempted to interfere. Abraham Lincoln established his own currency, known as the Lincoln greenbacks, which saved the American people from the Jewish bankers. While the Jews were celebrating Passover in 18/65, Abraham Lincoln would be mortally shot on the 14th April and die the following morning, the exact same dates as the Titanic. Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth, which according to his sister's diary, they were Jews. The czar who saved America would have many assassination attempts on his life, and finally be assassinated in March of 18 81, when 3 men with bombs blew them up with explosives. The Jews have used their monopoly on Hollywood, the media, and television to make the blacks hate the whites, and the whites hate themselves, to a point where black actors can go on Jewish television and openly brag about murdering all the white people in his new Jewish film. Speaker 13: And I got a movie coming out, Django. Check it out. Leonardo DiCaprio, Samuel Jackson. Django Unchained, I play a slave. How black is that? And, in the movie, I have to wear chains. How wack is that? But don't don't don't be worried about it because I get out the chains, I get free, I save my wife, and I kill all the white people in the movie. How great is that and how black is that? But I'm a tell you right now, speaking of blackness, my president, president Obama's back up in Speaker 0: Imagine the roles were reversed, and a white man stood up and said, I get to kill all the blacks, or I get to kill all the Jews, the white man would be sent to jail for hate speech and racism. The Jews would transport about 300,000 African slaves to America, making the United States one of the worst slave markets in the world, compared to Brazil, which had more than 10 times this number. However, between 8 100,011,000,000 white American Christians would die in freeing the slaves in the American Civil War, causing a chain reaction, abolishing slavery around the world. Instead of being thanked and praised for ending Jewish controlled slavery, the white Christian Americans are hated and blamed through Jewish propaganda. Saudi Arabia would only outlaw slavery in 1970. Though many Africans were still being enslaved after. Nobody blames the Muslims or the Saudi Arabians for slavery. If the African Americans knew the Jewish role in the slave trade, the African Americans would shift their anger and hatred from white Europeans to Jews. Jewish owned black entertainment pollutes the minds of young African Americans with sex, drugs, violence, and the destruction of black families. The black community is completely unaware that they are still being enslaved by their original Jewish slave masters, as Jews like George Soros invest 1,000,000 of dollars into movements like Black Lives Matter, causing more division and chaos in the Western world. It really is amazing how blacks and whites alike have no idea who Aaron Lopez was, the Jew who became master of the slave trade. If the Jews have the power to convince the entire world to blame the white Europeans for the Jewish controlled slave trade, then it is fully possible for the Jews to do the same with the Holocaust. I just wanted to point out that it's very common for Jews to convert to Christianity before committing some of the evilest atrocities known to man, Like Aaron Lopez in the slave trade, he was known as a crypto Jew, meaning he proclaimed to be Christian while practicing Judaism, similar to how Christians are blamed for the Spanish inquisition, where thousands of people were tortured and killed through religious persecution. But how many people know that the first inquisitor, Thomas de Turkmada, was a Jew, or how Jew Karl Marx and his father are the descendants of devout Talmudic Jewish rabbis, and yet they converted to Christianity only to write the Communist Manifesto, which would be the main tool used in the largest exterminations of Christians in world history? Or how about Jew Hugh Hefner, who converted to Christianity and then became one of the largest porn distributors in world history, turning young Christian women into whores, while his Jewish daughter becomes president of Playboy and then marries a Jewish lawyer who sat on the board of the Anti Defamation League. The Anti Defamation League is a Jewish organization that seeks to destroy anyone who dares criticize and expose the Jews while they scream antisemitism. Jesus and the apostles gave multiple warnings that men would pose as Christians to devour us from within. It says men will creep into the churches unaware, turning our religion into whoredoms. Men would dress up as sheep, but inwardly are ravening wolves whose sole purpose is to destroy Christianity from within. So the Jewish media and Jewish entertainment is the strongest tool the Jews have in covering their tracks. It's amazing how hard they want you to believe in the Holocaust while at the same time, they hide and conceal their roles in the largest massacres in world history. Now because of Jew's Steven Spielberg making movies like Schindler's List, a movie that most kids were forced to watch in school, this is where our minds go. This is where our minds go when we hear the word Holocaust. We think of movies and shows that we've seen that were produced and financed by Jews, like Saving Private Ryan directed by Jew Steven Spielberg. In one of the opening scenes after the glorious allies invade Omaha Beach, we see actor, Vin Diesel, hand a Jewish soldier a Hitler Youth Night. The Jew immediately begins crying as all the soldiers go silent. Speaker 13: Look at this. A Hitler Youth Night. Speaker 14: And now it's a Shabbat al Hakad. Alright? Speaker 0: This scene is designed to make you think about the Holocaust and feel sorry for this brave American Jew who is fighting to save his oppressed people. But why would he be crying? Why is everyone silent? It's only June 6, 1944. The first Jewish Nazi death camp wouldn't be found for over a month by the Jewish Soviets on the other side of Europe. The Americans at this point have little to no evidence that Hitler is gassing Jews. They invaded Europe to save Poland. But as you watch this scene, the Jewish brainwashing kicks in, and you instantly feel sorry for this Jew thinking of movies like Schindler's List, The Pianist, Life is Beautiful, and many, many others that were forced on us as children. Our minds instantly remember the burning chimney where ashes of dead Jews rained on the people below. They forget to tell us that the chimney was built by the Soviet Jews in 1947 after the war, as the chimney wasn't even attached to any main building. They don't mention how out of the many aerial photos we have of Auschwitz, we can't see black smoke and ashes covering the camp, meaning the ovens were not constantly burning. Jew Steven Spielberg has you crying over the Jews and feeling sorry for the dead American invaders who are fighting on the side of Jewish communism while you feel no sympathy for the German soldiers being burned alive, as most of the men defending Germany here aren't even German, like the 2 surrendering soldiers speaking Czech who the Americans murder in cold blood. Speaker 5: What did he say? What did he say? Speaker 7: Luke, I watched for supper. Speaker 0: These 2 men were part of the Eastern Legions, men from Eastern Europe who are trying to stop the spread of Jewish Bolshevism, which is threatening all of Europe. Remember, Hitler wanted peace. It was our leaders in the West and their Jewish masters who pressed for war and sent our ancestors to their pointless deaths. Let's listen to what some German World War 2 veterans have to say. Steven Spielberg does it again in the series Band of Brothers, which is labeled as a true story, which tells the partial story of the 101st Airborne's experience during World War 2. I just want to go over some of the lies that Steven Spielberg inserts into his films. He uses the same methods used in poisoning rats. He takes 99% truth and then mixes it with 1% poison. In the episode, Why We Fight, a Jewish soldier named Josef Liebgott is presented to us as a Jew taking part in the liberation of 1 of the Nazi death camps near De Hau. Spielberg creates an intense moment as this German speaking American Jew begins uncovering a death camp filled with dying Jews. Speaker 13: We've got. Agent needs Speaker 12: you up front right now. Will you ask him ask him what kind of campuses? What, why are they here? Speaker 14: I see that's here. He says it's a war camp for, I'm not sure what the word means, sir. Unwanted. Slight, maybe. Speaker 4: Criminals? Speaker 14: I don't think criminals are. Fabregia. Words, forms, and elections with normal people. Speaker 12: Jews. Speaker 0: The show portrays Josef Liebgoth as a Jew. Speaker 14: He ain't Catholic. He's a soul. That pricks the son of Abraham. He's what? He's a Jew. I'm a joke. Congratulations. Get your nose out of my face. Speaker 0: The problem is Joseph Leibgot was never Jewish. He was a devout Roman Catholic with Austrian parents, and the 101st Airborne never liberated the camp near Landsberg. It was the 100 and 34th Ordnance Maintenance Battalion of the 12th armored division. The Germans didn't really put Jews in camps. The camps were for communists and potential threats. Let's remember that it was Jews who were hostile towards Germany as it was the Jews who declared war on them in 1933, 6 years before the war. And because this was a war against communism and most communists happened to be Jews, it was mainly communist Jews who ended up in camps while Jews loyal to Germany served in Hitler's army. To prove that this was a war against communism and not Jews, we just need to look at the 150,000 Jews who served in Hitler's army. Some Jews achieved ranks as highest field marshal and vice admiral. Hitler's own bodyguard and chauffeur, Emil Maurice, was half Jewish. He was also one of the founders of the Nazi SS. This war wasn't against Jews. It was against communism, which was an ideology that the Jews hid behind as they were conquering Europe. But who cares about facts when discussing the Holocaust? Just make it sell while calling it a true story. What Spielberg leaves out is how all the German SS soldiers were brutally tortured and murdered by the US soldiers upon taking the camp. And conveniently for the Jews, the Nazis destroyed all the Holocaust documentation before being murdered and tortured. But can we really trust the Jews? Despite what Jewish Hollywood says, the SS were not a group of blonde blue eyed Aryans, but were in fact a brotherhood of mixed nationalities, loyal in fighting communism. You could find men from almost all races serving in the SS. In fact, the last unit to surrender during the fall of Berlin was the 33rd Waffen SS Charlemagne unit. These brave French volunteers fought for Germany and Hitler until the very end because of the intense anti German propaganda and brainwashing that the Jewish newspapers and media put inside the heads of these American soldiers, killing these SS soldiers would be like killing a child rapist. But conveniently for the allies, the German soldiers happened to destroy all the evidence proving this was a death camp. The show wants you to focus on these starving prisoners as if the Germans were starving and killing the poor innocent Jews while leaving out how the allies had been relentlessly bombing German civilian farms, roads, railroads, and bridges, preventing any chance of supplies from entering the camp. The Germans couldn't feed themselves, let alone prisoners, thanks to the glorious allies bombing civilians at night. Again, the allies dropped over 3,000,000 metric tons of bombs on Nazi occupied Europe, mainly at night, burning women and children as they slept in their beds. The allies would never be charged as war criminals for bombing German civilians and causing mass starvation in Europe. Instead, they point at the Nazi death camps and shift all the blame onto the Germans. Europe under Nazi occupation was actually fairly stable. The allies idea of saving Europe involved blowing it to pieces. The damage inflicted by the allies with their strategic bombing campaigns sent Europe back to the stone age. But don't worry, after the allies would win the war, they would make sure that Germany takes full responsibility for all the dead civilians. As Germany was given the bill for all the buildings and people that the allies blew up. The Soviets also took 3,000,000 German prisoners after the war to work in labor camps. Sources say that about 1,000,000 Germans would die in these camps, while the Soviets only say 400,000 would die. The episode is ironically called Why We Fight, which is pure propaganda, meaning this was a war to save Jews. The reason World War II started was to free Poland, not to stop the Holocaust that nobody knew was happening. The Holocaust only became the main reason after the Germans were defeated and couldn't defend themselves. Even though the allies ignored all of Hitler's peace offers, they still insisted that Poland needed to be freed. However, Poland was never freed. 2 countries invaded Poland, Nazi Germany and the Jewish Soviet Union. However, the allies only declared war on Hitler and the Germans in the name of freeing Poland and not the Jewish Soviet Union. At the end of the war, Poland was never freed, as it became a slave to the Jewish Soviet Union until the Soviet Union collapsed. Stalin is portrayed as an anti Semite, but how can that be true when he left several Jews in key positions like Jacob Berman, who was chief of Polish intelligence and master of propaganda? He commanded the largest police force in all of Polish history and was responsible for persecuting 100 of Polish nationalists. Stalin apparently hated the Jews so much that he was the 1st leader to recognize the Rothschild state of Israel as the Jews were the only people allowed to leave the Soviet Union. Not to mention, his right hand man was Jew Lazar Kaganovich, one of the men responsible for the Holdemore Famine. Let's look at another one of Spielberg's films. Spielberg goes to win an Academy Award for his production in The Last Days, which includes people from a debunked holocaust hoax movie called Liberators fighting on 2 fronts in World War 2. The documentary, Liberators, proves that there was a conspiracy to create and present a fictional version of history. The documentary central thesis is that black soldiers broke down the gates of Dehau and Buchenwald liberating the camps. Speaker 15: In another segment, the creators of the last days convince us that a white American, a black American, and even a Japanese American played an equal part in the liberation of Dachau. The only problem is that the Japanese American didn't liberate the main camp and the African American was almost 300 miles away from Dachau when it was liberated. Speaker 9: We thought it was a military camp, a German military camp that we were going in to take, and therefore, we're gonna capture it and capture the people who were inside of it. People were weak. Weak. It probably isn't even the right term, but they were emaciated. So of the people look like they were very old who weren't old. Speaker 11: They were walking dead, it's what we call. Skeletons. Speaker 9: A few came out first, then more came out, and more came out, and they kept coming toward us because it was almost as if they realized, and I guess they did, they realized that we were different, that we were people coming to help them. Speaker 14: And the Americans helped the gun against the Germans, but they didn't kill them. They let us have them. And taking a dozen or so German soldiers that we caught literally tore them apart piece by piece. Speaker 9: We, captured a German colonel, and, I went back and told him that we're gonna send you back to the to the officers to talk to you. And he spit in my face. And I killed him. It wasn't long before the war was over after that, but part of those last days, we intended to stop Germany from ever having the opportunity to stand up again and do this to anybody. Speaker 15: After the release of the last days, the Boston Globe ran a series of exposes on Paul Parks proving that his war stories were fiction. They reported, Parks has also said that he dodged bullets on the beaches of Normandy on d day. However, army records show that his company was still training in Andover, England. Parks' company was not sent to France until 4 weeks after D Day. Next up is Parks' fantasy about liberating Dachau. Speaker 16: Were you still with the black? Were you joining a black unit? Speaker 9: Yes. I was. It was a black unit that was attached to assigned to I'm not sure what they were, but they were assigned to the 100 and 83rd infantry. And when I got down there, you know, they we were I was training them, and then they got orders to move and take this camp. There was nothing quite like this. Speaker 15: The Boston Globe reported that on the day Dachau was liberated and Parks said he encountered some of the emaciated survivors of the holocaust. The morning reports for Parks' company placed it some 270 miles to the northwest heading west to France. The US army said there were no black units attached or assigned to any of the units credited with the liberation of Dachau. Even the US Holocaust Museum said, we're not aware of any African American soldiers who were there on the day the proverbial gates fell. The man who led the liberation of Dachau said, he's a consummate liar is all I can say. Another American soldier said, I think he's stuck in a web of lies. He apparently didn't realize that there are ways to check his stories, and now he's stuck. One soldier who liberated Dackow added, he has lived a lie which was accepted years ago and woven into the unofficial fabric called history. A soldier also involved in the liberation said, perhaps he's looking for some gratification and the Jewish people are trying to establish that the holocaust happened. They embraced an ally in parks to tell their story, and he took advantage of it. Speaker 0: Nobel Peace Prize winning Holocaust promoter Elie Wiesel got in on the black liberators fake history conspiracy, claiming in his memoirs released after seeing liberators. I will never forget the American soldiers and the horror that could be read on their faces. I will especially remember 1 black sergeant, a muscle giant who wept tears of impotent rage and shame, shame for the human species when he saw us. He spewed curses that on his lips became holy words. We tried to lift him onto our shoulders to show our gratitude, but we didn't have the strength. We were too weak to even applaud. Elie Wiesel is claiming that they didn't have the strength to applaud the black sergeant, but they attempted to put him on their shoulders. Not to mention there were no black soldiers anywhere near to Howe or Buchenwald, and this is confirmed by the United States military. The documentary was narrated by Denzel Washington, and it was labeled as a fraud. But what are facts when talking about the Holocaust in Nazi Germany? The allies can say whatever they want, and the Germans can only sit there and take it. Nothing can be more shameful than the massacre at Katyn. The Jewish Soviets were responsible for mass massacring many of the Polish elite citizens during the war, which is known as the Ktytine massacre. When Hitler and the Nazis came across 15 to 20,000 dead Polish at the Katyn Forest, they immediately called the Red Cross. The Red Cross was a neutral organization put in place by the Geneva Convention, which establishes the rules of war, and it gave the Red Cross permission to inspect prison camps to make sure the prisoners were being properly treated and that the rules of war were being followed to prevent things like the Holocaust from happening. However, if we go to the Red Cross's website, we see that the Jewish Soviet Union never agreed to the Geneva Convention and were not bound by the rules of war. So nobody could inspect the Jewish Soviet Union's prisons, which allowed the Soviets to mutilate and massacre German prisoners and rape German women at will. This also makes us wonder why would Hitler set up all these death camps that the Red Cross could just inspect? Not to mention, why would Hitler offer the allies peace dozens of times if he was exterminating Jews? The Red Cross did investigate a concentration camp at Terezin in 1944. They found the Jewish children in good health playing in the courtyard. They found the Jews watching a soccer game, and they even came across a Jewish police officer working at the camp. But, of course, the Jews labeled this as Nazi propaganda. Keep in mind that there were no gas chambers found and more than 33,000 people died in the camp due to famine and malnutrition. But, of course, that has nothing to do with the 3,000,000,000 kilograms of bombs that the allies dropped. In the end, the Nazis were forced to take the blame for the massacre at Gatine. Germany would carry the shame for the massacre until 1989. The Jewish Soviets tortured German officers until they took responsibility for the massacre. However, in 1989, Soviet scholars revealed that Joseph Stalin had indeed ordered the massacre. And in 1990, Mikhail Gorbachev admitted that the Jewish NKVD executed the polls and confirmed 2 other burial sites similar to the site at Katyn. What makes the Katyn massacre so powerful is it proves that the Jewish Soviets are capable of committing mass genocide and then placing the blame on Hitler and the Germans. In a court of law, this would place the Jewish Soviet Union in a state of dishonor. I also wanna point out that almost 25% of the Soviet supplies and resources were supplied by the Allied forces. The Soviet Union was on the brink of destruction when Hitler had Moscow and Saint Petersburg surrounded. Had it not been for the Allies the communists, Hitler would have been victorious. But instead, our leaders and royal families supported the Jewish communists. Thanks to President Roosevelt and the allies signing the Lend Lease Act of 1941, the Jewish Soviet Union managed to survive. The Soviet Union denies ever receiving help from the Americans or the Allies. However, general Zhukov, the supreme commander of the Soviet Army, is quoted and saying, now they say the allies never helped us, but it can't be denied that the Americans gave us so many goods without which we wouldn't have been able to form our reserves and continue the war. We didn't have explosives, gunpowder. We didn't have anything to charge our rifle cartridges with. The Americans really saved us with their gunpowder and explosives. And how much sheet steel they gave us? How could we have produced our tanks without American steel? But now they make it seem as if we had an abundance of all that. Without American trucks, we wouldn't have had anything to pull our artillery with. The Jews controlling America would supply the Jewish Soviet Union with about 17,500,000 tons of supplies between 1941 1945. The Nazis never stood a chance with the Americans supporting Jewish communism. In April 1945, during the final days of World War 2, as the Americans were approaching Berlin, General Eisenhower would order the Western Allies to halt at the Elbe River, preventing the Western Allies from taking Berlin. This angered general Patton. General Eisenhower wanted the Jewish Soviet Union to take Berlin. Because of this order, the Jewish Soviet Union would be responsible for the world's worst rape phenomenon in history, all at the hands of the Jewish Soviet Union. More than 100,000 German women would be raped in Berlin alone. Some women reported being raped up to 60 to 70 times. Abortion rates surged, causing the deaths of at least 10,000 German girls. An estimated 1,400,000 German girls were raped in Eastern Prussia alone as the Polish and Ukrainian women reported the same thing. Because the Jewish Soviets never signed the Geneva Convention, they couldn't be charged with rape. However, in France, a 130 US soldiers were hanged for raping French women, most of whom were African Americans. No Soviet would be hanged for raping German women. 8 to 80 was their motto. Rape any child as young as 8 and any elderly woman up to 80. General Eisenhower also constructed American death camps where he starved over 1,000,000 German men, women, and children. He very simply and logically constructed walls with armed guards and allowed famine to do the work. There were no gas chambers, no waste of time, no waste of resources, no big Hollywood story. He just starved over 1,000,000 Germans as the food and water were sitting just outside the camp. The Germans couldn't feed their prisoners because of the allied bombing raids on civilian targets. Eisenhower just felt like starving over a 1000000 people. But don't worry, he would eventually become the 34th president of the United States. General Patton expressed his disgust. He wrote negatively about the Jews and demanded that the Americans invade the Jewish Soviet Union while they were still in Europe. His duties as military governor took Patton to all parts of Germany and intimately acquainted him with the German people and their condition. He could not but help compare them with the French, the Italians, the Belgians, and even the British. This comparison gradually forced him to the conclusion that World War 2 had been fought against the wrong people. After a visit to Ruhn, Berlin, he wrote to his wife on July 21, 1945. Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race. We are about to replace them with Mongolian savages, and all of Europe will be communists. It said that for the 1st week after they took it, all the women who ran were shot, and those who did not were raped. I could have taken it had I been allowed. There is a very apparent Semitic influence in the press. They're trying to do 2 things. 1st, implement communism, and second, see that all businessmen of German ancestry and non Jewish antecedents are thrown out of their jobs. They have utterly lost the Anglo Saxon conception of justice and feel that a man can be kicked out because somebody else says he is a Nazi. They were evidently quite shocked when I told them I would kick nobody out without a successful proof of guilt before a court of law. Another point which the press harped on was the fact that we were doing too much for the Germans to the detriment of the DPs, most of whom are Jews. I could not give the answer to that one because the answer is that, in my opinion and that of most nonpolitical officers, it is vitally necessary for us to build Germany up now as a buffer state against Russia. In fact, I am afraid we have waited too long. Today, we received orders in which we were told to give the Jews special accommodations. If for Jews, why not Catholics, Mormons, etcetera? We are also turning over to the French several 100000 prisoners of war to be used as slave labor in France. It is amusing to recall that we fought the revolution in defense of the rights of man and the civil war to abolish slavery, and now we've gone back on both those principles. So after General Patton expressed that they had destroyed a great race, that the Jews were trying to turn Germany communist, that the Jews had an enormous amount of influence in the media, and that Germany must be rebuilt to attack the Jewish communists, which was what Hitler and the Germans were trying to do in the first place, general Patton would be injured in a car accident. And while recovering in the hospital, he would mysteriously die of unrelated reasons. America's greatest general tried to warn us about the Jewish communists, and his warnings went completely unheeded. But don't worry, the Jews would make a movie about him. Because of the Holocaust, most people don't care about the Germans being raped, starved, killed, and mutilated. But what do we really know about the Holocaust? Again, we have to trust mass murdering serial killers to tell us how evil the Germans were. While most people in the world are oblivious to what these Jews have done. So my question is, how much can we trust the Jews? I find it interesting that president Roosevelt's advisers were Jews, like Bernard Baruch, who also advised and helped president Woodrow Wilson create the Federal Reserve Bank that was completely run by Jews. I also find it interesting that rabbi and Zionist leader, Stephen Samuel Wise, was a close friend and adviser to Roosevelt as he led the American efforts in boycotting Germany and was also one of the founders of the World Jewish Congress in 1936, which was really designed to unite the Jews in the destruction of Germany. See, the Jews didn't want to leave Germany. They wanted to control it. Roosevelt also won his presidential campaign by promising to keep the United States out of another European war. And while I am talking to you mothers and fathers, I give you one more assurance. I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again. Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars. They are going into training to form a force so strong that by its very existence, it will keep the threat of war far away from our shores. The purpose of our defense is defense. Instead, Roosevelt issued a draft forcing Americans to fight on the side of the Jewish communists as the United States became the largest weapons manufacturer the world had ever seen. Now let's not forget that it was Jew Eugene Mayer, who was the director of the Federal Reserve as Hitler was coming to power, as he plunged the world into the greatest economic depression in history, but he managed to find the money to buy up The Washington Post while it was going bankrupt. It's interesting that even the American media at the time was completely controlled by Jews. So the people advising the president, telling him what to say and what to do are Jews. The American people are being educated through media outlets owned and controlled by Jews, like CBS with Jew William Samuel Paley and NBC with Jew David Sarnoff Speaker 17: and The Speaker 0: New York Times with Jews Arthur Sulzberger and Adolf Ochs. This is interesting because The New York Times recorded how a new world order would be pledged to the Jews in 1940. If I were to ask you how many Americans died in World War 2, could you tell me without looking it up? Or how about how many Canadians or Australians? How many Scottish and English? Chances are you have no idea. But if I were to ask you how many Jews died, 6,000,000 without hesitation. But how is that even possible? When we look at the number of oven muffles at the Auschwitz camps, and when we multiply them by the average time it takes to burn a body times the number of days the camp was in operation, we see that it's impossible to make 4,000,000 bodies disappear. The 4,000,000 dead provided by the Jewish Soviet Union was so embarrassing that they had to replace the plaque at Auschwitz with a much lower number. 2.5 to 3,000,000 Jews disappeared from the death total overnight. Where did these Jews go? Did they ever exist? Were they rescued? But if you question this event, you could end up in jail. Imagine we could place plaques in Russia, Kazakhstan, Siberia, and Ukraine saying, this is where Jews killed tens of millions of people. It's interesting that the World Almanac says that there were 15,300,000 Jews in the world before the war and 15.7 after, meaning there was an increase in the Jewish population. The Red Cross also stated that less than 300,000 people died in German camps. We can also find countless amounts of newspaper articles from decades before the war where the Jews are claiming 6,000,000 Jews are dying or in danger. So this isn't a new thing. Speaker 15: Henry Tauber claims the impossible. He claims they routinely cremated 3 corpses in one cremation oven, stacked 1 on top of the other, and they all burned within 20 minutes. Speaker 18: They low we loaded the dead bodies, 1 on the other, and then the one on top, 3. 5 people build up, picked up the the 5 the the 3 bodies, put them on the rails, and this was 15 bodies. It took 20 minutes. 15 ovens, 3 buggies, 20 minutes. Speaker 19: Today, cremations are performed in computer controlled chambers. After the container is loaded in and the door is sealed, a series of computer controlled burners are activated. The heat inside the chamber must reach as high as 1800 degrees to consume a corpse over a period of 1 and a half hours. Speaker 15: Today's state of the art cremation ovens take an hour and a half to cremate one body. However, Taubers said 3 at a time were shoved into ovens and burned in 20 minutes. Look at his unnatural eye movement when he tells the lie. 15 Speaker 18: ovens, 3 bodies, 20 minutes. Speaker 15: Tauber had to claim 3 Jews were cremated per oven in 20 minutes. Outrageously impossible. Speaker 0: Something that I find interesting is there have been many reports of men claiming to be holocaust survivors only to be exposed as frauds trying to push the Holocaust agenda. Joseph Hirt claimed that he was a Holocaust survivor and that he was almost a patient of the evil doctor Mengele, who did crazy Nazi experiments on Jewish children. When asked why he lied about it, what he said was, I was determined at that moment to do everything in my power to prevent the loss of truth about wartime life at Auschwitz. So this man's excuse for lying about his experience in the Holocaust was in the name of preserving truth. Here we have Jew Hermann Rosenblatt who lied about his Holocaust survivor story. Speaker 17: Herman Rosenblatt does have a real story of survival in the Nazi concentration camps, a story that is genuinely extraordinary. But as he explained to us in this exclusive interview, he felt he needed to make things up to get people to pay attention. The greatest love story we've ever told on Speaker 7: this show. Oh, boy. Thank you. Speaker 17: Herman Rosenblatt received international attention for his story about being a hungry little boy in a Nazi concentration camp who was thrown apples every day by a little girl on the other side of the fence. Years later, according to the story, Rosenblatt met that same girl on a blind date in New York City, and he proposed on the spot. Speaker 20: I used to come by every day, bring the apple, have in my jacket and a piece of bread, and he used to say, I'll see you tomorrow. Speaker 17: The story landed Herman and Roma Rosenblatt on Oprah twice and in newspapers all over the world. They also got a book and movie deal, but the story wasn't true. Why did you do it? Why did you tell such a big lie to so many people for so long? Speaker 10: It wasn't a lie. It was I was my imagination and in my imagination, in my mind, I believed it. Even now I believe it that she was there and she threw the apple to me. Speaker 17: How can you say it wasn't a lie? It wasn't true and you know it's not true. Speaker 10: Yes. It's not true. But in my imagination, it was true. Speaker 17: Rosenblatt says he made the story up to give people hope and to promote understanding about the holocaust, but members of his own family say his real motivation was money. So you were not motivated in any way by money? Speaker 7: No. Speaker 17: This is from your son. He said that he knew you were lying for years and he couldn't get you to stop. And here's his quote. It was always hurtful. My father is a man who I don't know. Speaker 0: It's important to listen carefully to the witnesses and know your facts when talking about the Holocaust. You would be surprised how little Holocaust survivors actually know about the Holocaust. Here's a good example. Speaker 1: W j w, good morning. Hello? Yes, ma'am. Speaker 7: Am I on the Speaker 1: phone? Yes. Speaker 7: I am a survivor of the massacre, and I would like to ask that young man something. How could how does he expect to find bodies? The I was smelling for 4 weeks, the value? Well, I want to ask you the question. In which camp were you in? I work in in the part of Auschwitz were you? In Buchenwald. Speaker 1: At, what you would call it? Right. Speaker 7: Is that Block A? Buchenwald is No. No. I was in Block a. You were you were in Block a. Well, I have a mask before me here, and you were in Auschwitz, but were in Auschwitz. There's many Block a. What do you mean by Block a? That was they were they were, shut up in block. I'm so upset that I can even talk and think. Well, I mean, please if you say the blocks the blocks were numbered, which number was you was the number? In block a. This is what I'm telling you. You say you were in block a. Where at Auschwitz? Where at Auschwitz? Yes. So how many Auschwitz there was there? Well, don't you know there there's more than 1? More within 1 Auschwitz. Yeah. I just was in 1 Auschwitz, and I just thought the map before me here. Yes. And which block were you in at Auschwitz? Speaker 1: Are you questioning the fact that this lady was alive? Speaker 7: I'm telling you I'm telling you I'm telling you I'm questioning the fact that you have fair. She trying to find out whether what she's saying is true, and it doesn't appear. She says she's living in block a. Yeah. I The block the blocks were not they were numbers. So that's why I asked you which block you were living in, which number, and also which part of the camp. The camp was just not one camp. Speaker 1: Well, why don't I live on my block, Steven? Speaker 4: Cyanide and carbon monoxide both alleged to be used during World War 2 to gas millions of Jews, cyanide at camps such as Auschwitz and carbon monoxide in places such as Treblinka. But how did eyewitnesses to the gassings describe the color of the victims? They were blue, black, and swollen. What I saw in the gas chamber was ghastly. A horrible scene. Yakoff Silverberg. The bodies were tossed out blue, wet with sweat and urine. The legs smeared with excrement and menstrual blood. Kurt Gerstein. Speaker 21: What did I see? I see the people I saw 15 minutes ago. I see them all dead standing up with their children black and blue. Speaker 4: The nature of the corpses on account of the terrible effect of the poison gas was such that one could see only blue, black, bloated, and mushy flesh that had once belonged to human beings. Zyklon b has the property of disintegrating a human body almost completely, of causing the human lung to burst, and of turning the rest of the body into a jelly like state. When the door finally was opened, the sunderkommando was assaulted by an overwhelming stench and the ghastly sight of putrid flesh. The bodies had turned blue and were bloated to double and triple their normal size. If this sounds like bad horror fiction, that's because it is. Out of the so called witnesses of the alleged gassings of millions of Jews, almost all of them failed to mention the correct textbook cherry red color of cyanide and carbon monoxide poisoning victims. When devising these atrocity stories, these liars made big mistakes which exposed their lies. Those poisoned with cyanide and carbon oxide don't turn green, blue, or yellow. They turn a distinct cherry red. They should have read How to Poison Your Fictional Characters. Speaker 21: I saw the mothers with their children standing up before because the gas chamber will will get maybe 500 people. It used to meet 2,500 people. Everybody standing up. There was no room for anything else but standing up. And when you see that after it's in some of there are black and blues from the gas. Speaker 4: Dario Gebay came out publicly in the 19 nineties, 50 years after the end of World War 2, and told horror stories about being forced to work in Nazi gas chambers slash crematoriums to a gullible public. His brother and 2 cousins also claimed to have worked as gas chamber slaves yet all miraculously survived. Dario Gabbai appeared in Steven Spielberg's Oscar award winning documentary, The Last Days. This is the discredited, shameless propaganda hoax, which includes a really vicious anti German liar, Irene Zisblatt, who among other absurd fantasies, claims she had her tattoo removed by doctor Mengele, had her skin selected to be turned into a lampshade, and repeatedly defecated and swallowed diamonds for a year and a half while in Auschwitz and on death marches. Like Dubai, she only went public with her lies in the 19 nineties. Let's hear her fairy tale about escaping from inside a gas chamber. Speaker 22: I think that was Mengele that took me out of there. And he just attached me to that gypsy prison and I went to the gas chamber. And, as I was go going into the gas chamber, you know, everybody was being pushed into the gas to the gas chamber. And I was going backwards. Somehow I was being pushed backwards, and I was, like, stuck in the door. And I I don't know. I guess God told me to do that. Speaker 4: Dario Gebay, like Zisblat, is playing a role on behalf of Zionism. Dario Gebay is a liar, a professional liar, an actor. When he says he saw blue Jews standing up dead inside a gas chamber, He's literally acting. After all, Gubai is a professional Hollywood actor. Here's a clip from his role in the Korean war film, The Glory Brigade. Speaker 0: I would say the best evidence we have in debunking the Holocaust are the survivors and their conflicting stories. I'm not saying people didn't suffer and that people didn't go to labor and prison camps, but no honest survivor claims to have seen gas chambers for the mass genocide of the Jews. Many families were divided and separated, and many people believed that their loved ones were murdered by the Nazis. But the truth is they were just separated by the iron curtain set up by the Jewish Soviets. Only selected Jews were allowed to leave the Soviet Union. Anyone else who tried would be sent to the gulag prisons. There was no way for families to look for their loved ones on the other side, so they all assumed that their families were gassed. Now it's important to note that only Jews were given exit visas to leave the Soviet Union. Here we have conflicting stories from other Jews who were at Auschwitz telling us the Nazis had set up theaters, an orchestra, an in camp currency system so that workers could buy things at the canteens. They had a soccer club where the Nazis would even play soccer with them. These are things that are conveniently left out of all the Jewish produced Holocaust movies. Speaker 15: Spielberg's USC, survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation contains over 50,000 video testimonies. Out of 50,000 testimonies, the Shoah Foundation handpicked a bunch of hate filled liars and Zionists for their documentary. Surely, out of 50,000 video interviews, there must be some Jews telling some semblance of truth about life in the concentration camps. Speaker 11: We also had a, an orchestra where some of the musicians stitched together, and one musician was so good that he had the instruments playing and he wrote the notes, so later on, we had a band who played over the weekend, and, that was, of course, helping us. You know, we also did plays and stuff. Speaker 7: Were there any cultural activities happening in Auschwitz? Speaker 20: Yes. I told you we had a piano put into a not just a piano. A grand piano was brought into block 1. Once that was built, that new block, the downstairs room was assigned for theater. When he wanted to build a stage curtain in that new block 1, which was one big dining room was going to be also business stage so performances could be done for women there cultural. He said for heaven's sake isn't there anybody here who can help me sew on these curtain rings for the stage? I do it for you, he says. And I came forward and I helped him with the curtain stage and that was wonderful because I had a man sitting across me for a change. Speaker 23: How did you entertain yourselves? Speaker 12: Well, there were at the at the beginning of those days, there was a library where you go people could get books to read. There were newspapers which we could get and that and also among ourselves, sometimes we had, what do you call it, a violin quartet. We used to come play in barracks during the evening. There was this. And later on, when they said, they're gonna build a movie in the camp, and they prayed that they the president said said only you must be crazy. They're gonna make a movie for us in in the camp. And remember, it happened. They made a movie in the can. Did. Yeah. And we we went in barracks after the we we could go to see a movie sometimes in the evening. They brought movies in to the the in the evening. And Speaker 23: What kind of movies would they show? Speaker 12: German movies. But once I came to the main camp, they were allowed twice a month to ride home. Once a postcard and once a letter. Speaker 23: They gave you the materials? Speaker 12: Yeah. They gave us the letter, the materials, the we could Speaker 20: How did you get the stamps? Speaker 12: Stamps. We could buy stamps. Speaker 23: Had money? Speaker 12: Yeah. We got my we still got my with the money we got through the Jewish community from Vienna who sent us everybody some money. Speaker 23: And and in the camp, you could have, currency? Speaker 12: Yeah. They could have money because there was in camp also what they call a container. And not many times, but once in a while, they sold a few cigarettes or they sold something, whatever they had. So if you had money, you could buy in that container there. Food, there wasn't really any food really. They usually sold, and sometimes they sold they sold some weak beer. They sold also in the in the Speaker 23: In the Caribbean? Speaker 12: Yeah. But, not really anything, else. Not much. Mostly cigarettes. Speaker 23: And when you went to the movies, did you have to pay? Speaker 12: Yes. We had to pay After the the money stopped, the regular money stopped, We got paid in coupons then. Speaker 23: Paid for your work? Speaker 12: Well, I don't know if it was for whatever. We got paid for in coupons for which were redeemable in the in that container if they had something. So that was their their way of distributing money then to everybody. There's everybody got his money Speaker 11: then. Of course, what we did is for the weekends, we got together. We got a group of us together, and we made a soccer team, which was over a little later, where we played soccer. What's amazing that there would be a soccer team, that there'd be enough energy left Speaker 4: to do something like that. Speaker 11: Well, I don't think we were quite as energetic as we were with the other regular team, but we did something to you know, it kept our mind off these, of the problems we had. Speaker 24: We organized very well soccer teams. Each each nationality organized soccer team, and we organized our equipment, everything, and play soccer on the assembly line on the assembly, place. Speaker 23: In Gross Russe? Speaker 24: Gross Russe. So, you know, that much free air was in them, but it was not in 44. It's the Russians are already pushed away, Americans are already invaded. Speaker 16: Freddie Hirsch called me to the children's barracks he was heading then, and he asked me if I could paint something on the wall for the children, and I said, well, if you can get the materials he said, I'll get the materials. I said, okay. And then a very handsome, young, blond man from the men's camp came over one day, and Freddie Hirsch called me to come and meet him and he asked me what I need. So I said, Well, if I can get any wall paints or any tempera paints, I would like those. If you can get me some, and he said, yes. Anything you want. And so before I knew it, Freddie had the stuff ready for me and I started painting at first. Speaker 7: What did Speaker 3: it do not only for for you, but for the, for the children on on an emotional level? Speaker 16: Well, it did several things, not just emotional, but the children then wrote a play which was a satire of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Speaker 3: So how were they allowed to put on a play in Auschwitz? Speaker 16: I don't know, but it was done kind of quite hush-hush, all of it, except that when it was put on, suddenly some assessment appeared, and they watched. And then when Arnaud Beem put on that play Speaker 0: Thanks to modern science and technology, we can finally lay to rest the myth that Germans were turning Jews into lampshades and bars of soap. However, even though we now know that the DNA of the lamps and soaps are from animals and not from Jews, it doesn't stop the Jews from repeating this Holocaust urban legend. So why did the Nazis have Zyklon B? It's simple. The Zyklon B was there to save people, not kill them. The Americans had a similar delousing process when immigrants would arrive in America. In this video, the Americans explain almost the exact same procedure that someone would go through at a German labor camp. In extreme cases, the people would shave their heads. Speaker 5: As this happens to be a case of old world typhus fever which is known to be spread by the body louse, the contacts, those who have had association with the patient during the voyage, are first taken to the delousing plant. Here they must remove all of their clothing. Spray with soap and water. Next they are sent under the shower. And finally, e one is sprayed with an insecticide that kills any lice or nits that may still remain in their hair. The clothing of these contacts is placed in net bags and these bags are sent to the fumigating room. This clothing, together with the baggage of the contact, is placed in fumigating chambers where it is thoroughly disinfested. If necessary, the contacts are isolated in the detention hospital for observation. Every precaution is taken by the quarantine officers to prevent the introduction of disease into the United States. Speaker 0: So when you look at the piles of hair, the piles of shoes, the Zyklon B canisters, understand that there are legitimate reasons as to why they are there. The amount of research that has already been done by Holocaust revisionists is overwhelming. Later, we will continue by examining the work that has already been done and handed to us by many Holocaust revisionists. Some of my favorite researchers and contributors who I recommend checking out would be Ernst Zundel, Fred Leutscher, Sylvia Stolz, David Cole, David Irving, and Guillermo Rudolph. And there are also lots more. Now I just want to close with some Roman biblical history and give a theory as to why all this is happening. Ever since the Jews forced the Romans to crucify Jesus and since the Jews revolted against Rome, the Jews have been wandering around the world homeless, causing problems everywhere they've gone. They have been expelled over a 100 times from other countries since the Romans destroyed Judea in 70 AD. We are told that people persecute the Jews and that the Jews are always the victims, but who in their right mind wakes up in the morning and just randomly decides to hate somebody? 99 out of a 100 times, there's usually a reason, an action that causes you to hate someone. The Jews are the only people who seem to be hated but refuse to give a reason as to why someone might hate them. If someone wanted to rent an apartment from you and you discovered that this person has been kicked out of the last 100 apartments that they've rented, would you let this person rent from you? If everyone seems to hate you, at what point do you ask yourself, could I be the problem? Now this doesn't apply to all Jews. I am half Jewish. I am well assimilated in my Christian country to a point where I'm the one defending Christianity from the Christians who have been brainwashed by the Jewish Marxist to hate their own culture. And it's really just a small percent of Jews. Most of us Jews are actually fairly normal people. So to understand our problems today and all the misery that the Jews have inflicted on us, we have to go back to when the Jews lost their homeland, which means going back to Jesus, because all the misery today seems to revolve around the Jewish effort in taking back their homeland in order to rebuild their temple. Even the freemasons don't deny that this is all about rebuilding the Jewish temple because all their rituals are based upon it. When Titus destroyed the Jewish temple and Jerusalem, he said that the events were supernatural and that the God of the Jews helped him punish them, fulfilling everything Jesus and the apostles said would happen. The Jews became more wealthy than the Romans under Roman rule and eventually enslaved the Roman Empire with debt and war. Titus and his father, emperor Vespasian, would use this evil debt money taken from the Jewish temple to build the Ark of Titus and the Colosseum or the amphitheater of Vespasian. So it's interesting that Europe's greatest monument should serve as a reminder to all Europeans to never let the Jews rule over you again. Let's close with the words of Titus recorded by a Jewish historian. It can therefore be nothing certainly but the kindness of us Romans which has excited you against us, who in the first place have given you this land to possess, and in the next place have set over you kings of your own nation, and in the 3rd place, have preserved the laws of your forefather to you, and have withal permitted you to live either by yourselves or amongst others as it should please you. And what is our chief favor of all is we have given you leave to gather up that tribute which is paid to God with such other gifts that are dedicated to him, nor have we called those that carried these donations to account, nor prohibited them, till at length, you Jews became richer than we ourselves, even when you were our enemies, and you made preparations for war against us with our own money. Nay, after all, when you were in the enjoyment of all these advantages, you turned your too great plenty against those that gave it to you, and like merciless serpents have thrown out your poison against those that treated you kindly. I suppose therefore you might despise the slothfulness of Nero. And like limbs of the body that are broken or dislocated, you did then lie quiet waiting for some other time, though still with a malicious intention, and have now showed your distemper to be greater than ever and have extended your desires as far as your imputant and immense hopes would enable you to do it. So while the Jews have rewritten history, history has a funny way of repeating itself because those who forget the past are destined to repeat it.
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🚨A longer version of the dancing Israeli’s🇮🇱 https://t.co/TTN8eCnTU5

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I saw 3 men on a van near the towers, acting strangely. They were later found to be Israelis working for a moving company. Some suspected them of being part of an intelligence operation. Despite initial suspicions, they were cleared of involvement in 9/11 and deported. A Jewish speaker believes Judaism challenges false beliefs and boundaries, upsetting some.
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Speaker 0: And I could see the towers from my windows. And this is where I, you know, I'm looking. And all of a sudden down there, I see this van parked. And I see 3 guys on top of the van and I could see that they were, like, happy, you know. They they they were they didn't look shocked to me, You know? They didn't look shocked. I thought it was very strange. Speaker 1: Amazingly enough, we have found the moving company where the 5 Israelis worked. Speaker 2: Was this building being used as a front for some kind of Israeli intelligence operation that possibly was doing surveillance on the Arab American community. Were there men celebrating or slapping fives or whatever? Speaker 3: We had received an all points bulletin, and, I just happened to see the van, you know, how it over my lieutenant. You know? And I think that could be the van. We checked it out, and it was. You know, we were all on edge, obviously, so I really wasn't looking to make friends with these people, and neither were the officers that I were with. Once we started talking to them, you know, they were pretty much like, hey. You know, we're, you know, we're not against you. We're with you. Speaker 4: And at that point, we were taken for another round of questioning. This time related to our allegedly being members of Mossad. The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event. Our purpose was to document the event. Speaker 1: The 5 Israelis were detained for 10 weeks and finally deported on immigration violations after the FBI cleared them of any involvement in 911. Speaker 5: The thing that makes Judaism dangerous to everybody, to every race, to every nation, to every idea is that we smash things that aren't true. We don't believe in the boundaries of nation state. We don't believe in the ideas of these individual gods that that, you know, that protect individual groups of people. These are all artificial constructions, and Judaism really teaches us how to see that. In a sense, our detractors have us right in that we are a corrosive force. We're breaking down the false gods of all nations and all people because they're not real. And that's very upsetting to people.
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Jacob Leon Rubenstein (Jack Ruby) Interviewed at His Trial - 1964. Gee, I wonder why they dosed him with LSD so he couldn't make sense. https://t.co/nigvZUkCJU

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Faith in God unites people regardless of their beliefs. Understanding different religions has deepened my faith. Connecting with others in places of worship is important. I appreciate Sheriff Decker's understanding. I wish him and his deputies well.
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Speaker 0: Faith in God. If people can go on being inseparable in their feelings to their to their in love to their brother regardless of what state they believe in. It was proven to me in my entire solution. I don't I will not go into that except this. He lets me believe in the origin of Genesis and all the various starting of the world, and he Awesome. Can like me to these various parts of religion that I didn't grasp. So if you go to the synagogue or the temple, you I think it's supposed to move. Yeah. Because you get the associate with the other people. We speak, but I'm separated from there. Not an echo. He's very well by the sheriff. Pardon me? Very well by Bill Decker. I should say this. I should say this. I think of any new writers, and I know sheriff Decker is gonna isolate me after this. So you wouldn't want to start a good Friday Saturday evening post to wish that on him, though, would you? Feel the same way about his deputies too, don't you? Yes. Very human. Very understanding. I think Dallas is 4th and a half.
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The First Holocaust - The Surprising Origin of the 6 Million Figure (Don Heddesheimer book synopsis) Bookmark & Share.

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This video discusses the origin and use of the figure 6,000,000 in relation to the Holocaust. It explores how the number was mentioned in media reports as early as the 1800s, and how it was used in fundraising campaigns and propaganda efforts. The video also highlights the exaggeration and hyperbole surrounding the number, and how it was used to push for Jewish immigration, the creation of a Jewish homeland, and regime change in Russia and Germany. It concludes by questioning the accuracy and manipulation of historical events and figures.
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Speaker 0: The first holocaust. 6000000 Jews died in the holocaust. We all know that, don't we? But how do we know, and for how long have we known about it? The following presentation is based on the book, The First Holocaust by Dawn Hetesheimer, which deals with the surprising origin of the 6000000 figure. This book is volume 6 of the series, Holocaust handbooks, a steadily growing series of groundbreaking research into the biggest taboo of our modern society. It was first published in 2003 by Castle Hill Publishers and is currently available in its 3rd edition of 2015. This presentation is divided into 3 parts. Part 1 tries to find the answer to the question, since when has the whole world known that 6,000,000 died in the holocaust? Historians usually refer to the allied post war tribunals at Nuremberg as the origin of the claim that 6,000,000 Jews were murdered by the Nazis during World War 2. Here, we trace back that symbolic number starting with the Nuremberg trials in 1946 and going back in time to Hitler's rise to power in 1933. In the second part, we make a big leap back in time to the first time that the 6 million figure was used. And then we will go through a large amount of media reports claiming that Jews were suffering in Eastern Europe prior to, during, and after the First World War. Yes. The first, not the second. During the third and final part, I will give an overview on the appearance of the 6000000 figure in the mass media throughout more than a century, and after summarizing our topic, I will briefly discuss what this all means. 1st, let's see what we are told by the experts as to why we know that 6,000,000 died. When we dig into the matter, the surprising result is that for a long time after the 2nd World War, expert historians on this topic have stated that we actually don't really know at all. For instance, when asked during a trial in Germany in 1979, German mainstream historian, doctor Martin Broseut, who at the time was one of the worldwide leading historians in the Third Reich studies, stated that the 6,000,000 figure was more of a symbolic figure rather than one that has been substantiated with solid demographic research. In fact, it took until the early 19 nineties for mainstream Holocaust historians to publish a study that claims to thoroughly investigate the question of how many Jews fell victim to the holocaust. Its title translates as dimension of genocide. It was written under the aegis of doctor Wolfgang Benz, who at that time was a German professor for studies on anti Semitism of all things, the book has never been translated into any other language. As a matter of fact, this book was the reaction to a 1983 revisionist study that had challenged the accuracy of the 6,000,000 figure. The cover image of its current edition is shown here to the right. In their attempt to refute that evil revisionist study, Benz and his colleagues got lucky. Because their research confirmed what has always been known, He wraps it up on page 17 of this book where he states, the bottom line indicates a minimum of 5 0.29 and a maximum of just over 6,000,000 Jewish victims of the Holocaust. In an attempt to quell any skepticism about this lucky find, Benz asserts 3 pages later, of course, the purpose of this project also was not to prove any preset figure, 6,000,000. Such an uncalled for disclaimer might make skeptical minds suspicious, but we won't analyze this any deeper here. It is usually assumed that the Nuremberg Military Tribunal during 1945 and 1946 was the origin of the claim that 6,000,000 fell victim to the Holocaust. And in fact, during that trial, 2 witnesses made claims to that end. First, we have Wilhelm Hittel shown to the right. Hittel was a German secret service agent whose written affidavit was submitted to the court. It can be found on page 85, a following in volume 31 of the published trial transcript. The affidavit is in German, and its decisive passage says, I translate, Eichmann told me that in the various extermination camps, some 4,000,000 Jews have been killed, while 2 more million perished in other ways. In his 1997 autobiography, the cover of which is shown to the right, Hittel confirmed to have heard those numbers from Eichmann. The second Nuremberg witness was Dieter Wieslitzenie. He is the fellow I have marked with a red arrow in the picture. During the war, he was a German official working for Adolf Eichmann at the task of deporting Jews. He testified in person during the Nuremberg trial. His testimony can be found in volume 4 of the IMT documentation, and the passage of interest here can be found on page 371 where it states, he, Adolf Eichmann, said he would leap laughing into the grave because the feeling that he had 5,000,000 people on his conscience would be for him a source of extraordinary satisfaction. Note that Vishlisenyi falls 1,000,000 short of the required 6,000,000. Since Eichmann was on the run after the war, it has been speculated that he was used as a convenient scapegoat during the Nuremberg trials. But Eichmann ended up before his own trial some 15 years later after he had been kidnapped by Mossad agents from his Argentine refuge in 1961. Interestingly, when he was asked during that trial whether the Jews he had deported knew what was awaiting them, he made some rather astonishing remarks. That trial was actually taped, and that footage is online on YouTube and elsewhere. Let's listen to this interesting passage. In the Please stick to the subject. Now most of us don't understand what he says as it is German, but there's a twist to it. If you listen to that trial footage, you realize that whenever there is a language problem between Eichmann and the judge or the prosecutor, they all switch over to flawless accent free German. Like the defendant, both the chief prosecutor and the presiding judge were Germans. So this was a trial among Germans, one of whom had once assisted in the persecution of his fellow countrymen. Anyway, here is my translation of what Eichmann just said. Quote, the people out there did not know that for a long time. I myself didn't know either whether these transports, for instance, if they went into the general government occupied Poland, then I knew that nothing happened to them as long as Glavochnik was not working there. If they went to Auschwitz, it is very clear that the majority was deployed for labor there. I was kept in the dark as well. How many or who would be killed? But I did not worry about that either because that was not my area of responsibilities. It cannot be denied, though, that I knew about the things due to the service trips I was ordered to make to the east. Interestingly, a little after the scene we've just seen, Eichmann mentions that he has learned about some aspects of the Holocaust by reading Gerald Rettlinger's book, The Final Solution, which makes me think that his own recollections and thus his testimony might have been polluted by what he's learned after the war. But, again, we won't go there because that would lead us too far astray. When we look deeper into the matter, however, a slightly different image appears. When doing research for his book, Nuremberg, The Last Battle, controversial British historian David Irving rummaged through many archives and personal records of people involved in those trials. He found out that in June 1945, before the trial began, the man who was organizing it, US chief prosecutor Robert Jackson, met 3 lawyers representing major influential Jewish organizations. Jackson wanted to get their input for the upcoming trial. Regarding Jewish population losses, Jackson asked them straightforward, How great were those Jewish losses? One of those lawyers, doctor Robinson, responded spontaneously, 6,000,000. But how could he have known this? The mystery deepens as we go back in time. Already in December of 1944 when the Allied armies were about to enter Germany, the Soviet propagandist, Ilya Ehrenberg, wrote in the Soviet's English language newspaper Soviet War News as reproduced here. In regions they seized, the Germans killed all the Jews. From the old folk to infants in arms. Ask any German prisoner why his fellow countrymen annihilated 6,000,000 innocent people and he will reply quite simply, why they were Jews. That's not the only time this symbolic figure appeared in that propaganda newspaper published for Anglo Saxon readers. It was repeated in the issues of January 4th and March 15, 1945. We read there, the world now knows that Germany has killed 6,000,000 Jews. Those articles were rediscovered by the German historian doctor Joachim Hoffmann who has reproduced them in the appendix to his 2,001 book, Stalin's War of Extermination. See its front cover here on the right. Here, the same question comes to mind. How could Ehrenberg know that 6,000,000 had been killed before even a single Allied soldier had set foot onto German soil? In fact, Ehrenberg knew about those 6,000,000 already much earlier. English newspapers were announcing in November of 1944 that Ehrenberg was about to publish a book on claimed German atrocities. Here is a press release by the United Press as published in the Youngstown Vindicator on November 27, 1944 where we read about, quote, the German massacre of approximately 6,000,000 European Jews, and down below, we read that somewhat misspelled main editor of that book, Ilya Ehrenberg. Now considering that writing a book takes months, that 6,000,000 figure must have been around already well before November 1944. This book actually didn't get published in the Soviet Union at that time, probably because Stalin didn't want to emphasize the Jews' role as victims of the Germans. It appeared only many years after the war. Here is an edition that can currently be bought on Amazon, again with Ehrenberg as the main editor. That the 6000000 figure is indeed older than November 1944 can be gleaned from the next writer, Rabbi Chaim Weizmendel, who became known for his efforts to save the Jews of Slovakia from what he assumed would be certain extermination. Wikipedia writes about him, quote, largely by bribing diplomats, Weisz Mendel was able to smuggle letters or telegrams to people he hoped would help save the Jews of Europe, alerting them to the progressive Nazi Winston Churchill and Franklin D Roosevelt, and he entrusted a diplomat to deliver a letter to the Vatican for Pope Pius the 12th. One of the most famous letters he wrote is widely quoted here, for instance, by the Jewish Virtual Library. It stems from May 16, 1944 and was allegedly written while Wiesemindel was hiding in a cave in Poland. If we scroll further down on their webpage on this letter, we read there, quote, why are you, fellow Jews and government ministers, in all the free countries being silent about this slaughter in which some 6,000,000 Jews have been murdered thus far and in which tens of thousands are now being murdered every day. Again, we should ask, how could this cave dweller know this? Weiszmoldel is such a big figure in the struggle to save Jews during the war that there exists even a dedicated book on him. Here, the book's page on Amazon. One of the first mainstream authors referring to Weismindel was the Holocaust historian doctor Davidovich, shown to the right in her 1975 book, The War Against the Jews. Not even May 1944 is the end of our 6000000 journey through time. Let's leap backward a year. May 15, 1943. The material shown here is taken from an 11 minute documentary on YouTube named How Do We Know That 6,000,000 Jews Died in the Holocaust, which has some additional interesting material along the same lines as the present documentary. You might want to watch it too. The first item of interest is an article in the Australian newspaper, The Advertiser, dated May 15, 1943. It mentions, quote, the possibility of the complete wiping out of 6,000,000 Jews. So this article does not claim that 6,000,000 have already been murdered, but that there is a chance that this will be done by the barbarian Hun. The next entry is from the Canadian Jewish Review from just a day earlier. Let's watch this brief video clip as it moves across that paper. Down here it states, quote, 2,000,000 of Jews have already been done to death. 6,000,000 in mid Europe are sentenced to die. So here as well they predict that at the end of the war, 6,000,000 might be the total death toll. Our third quote is from the Cumberland Evening Times, from Cumberland, Maryland. It is from March 20, 1943 and tells the reader what the Nazis were in the process of doing. Quote, the Nazis set out in the beginning to destroy whole peoples. They expected to obliterate from the Earth not less than 6,000,000 Jews as a beginning. My last quote is from the New York Times of March 10, 1943, where we read in a similar fashion that 2,000,000 Jews have already been killed in Europe. And further down, we read that 4,000,000 left to kill are being killed according to plan. 1 month earlier still, America's Magazine with the largest amount of readers, Reader's Digest, has a very interesting article which I want to briefly highlight here by showing an excerpt from the 9th episode of the excellent 4 and a half hour documentary, 1 third of the Holocaust, which you can find on YouTube. Speaker 1: We might find the answer in Reader's Digest of all places. In February 1943, the usual millions of copies were dropped in rural, small town, and suburban mailboxes all over the United States. You get an idea of what the magazine was like by a sampling of the article titles, such as VIVAS for Jorge Washington and Even Soda Pop Goes to War. At the time, Reader's Digest had the highest circulation of any magazine in the world. The issue had an article called Remember Us. It said on page 107 that by the end of the war, the Jews of Europe would be reduced from a minority to a phantom. In other words, there would be hardly any left. The officer puts out a number. 6,000,000. That's quite a prediction considering this is in the middle of the war and that the main chambers at Auschwitz were still under construction. In Hilbert's book on page 885, we see that at the time, the main chambers at Auschwitz hadn't even been finished being built. So was the writer an investigative reporter stationed in Europe with access to good information, or a high up government official? Actually, the writer was a Jewish Hollywood scriptwriter named Ben Hecht. His Internet movie database entry is huge. This story in Reader's Digest brought the Holocaust story to the heartland of America for the first Speaker 0: Going back yet another year, let's turn to America's most prestigious newspaper, the New York Times. On December 13th that year, this paper published an article on statements made by several rabbis throughout New York. Right in the middle of that article is the section of interest. It says there, quote, authenticated reports point to 2,000,000 Jews who have already been slain by all manner of satanic barbarism and plans for the total extermination of all Jews upon whom the Nazis can lay their hands. The slaughter of a third of the Jewish population in Hitler's domain and the threatened slaughter of all is a holocaust without parallel. Note the word holocaust here. A week later, the New York Times reported that in addition to the 2,000,000 already murdered, another 5,000,000 were in danger of extermination. During the war years, the New York Times published a number of rather revealing articles on this and closely related issues, which were first analyzed by doctor Butz in his 1976 book, The Hoax of the 20th Century. Here shown in its currently available 4th edition of 2015, which is volume 7 of the Holocaust Handbook Series. Needless to say, that wasn't the end of it either. Here is an article from the Palm Beach Post of June 25, 1940, the day France surrendered to the German Wehrmacht. It is headlined, doom of European Jews is seen if Hitler wins, which is meant to stir up the world against Hitler in order to prevent peace to be concluded at reasonable terms, which Germany was offering at that point. The chairman of the World Jewish Congress, Nahum Goldman, is quoted as having said that 6,000,000 Jews in Europe are doomed to destruction in case the world makes peace with Hitler. How could Goldman know that? And why would that be so in the first place as it was the continuation of the war rather than its early termination, which is said to have triggered the Holocaust. But again, discussing this would get us off topic, so we won't go there. The next item is from January 1939, almost 9 months before the outbreak of the war. It reports, among other things, that the Czech politician Masaryk had to say. Masaryk was a disgruntled politician who couldn't stand seeing his country, the former Czechoslovakia falling apart due to constant conflict between its various ethnic groups. He blamed that conflict on Germany and was looking for allies in his propaganda efforts against Germany, here among American Jewish lobby groups. But that's not why I bring it up. If we scroll down on this lengthy article, we find an interesting passage toward the end where a rabbi is quoted. He has his own agenda and that is trying to get support for Jewish immigration from Europe. In that context, he said that it would be impossible to evacuate 6,000,000 Jews. Again, the mystical figure. A little later, a certain doctor Chaim Weissmann is mentioned as being supportive of this migration effort. Here is his liking. We will encounter him next in our journey back in time. We are now in 1936. At that time, the so called Peel Commission formed by the British government was investigating the causes of Arab unrest in Palestine, which at that time was under British control. In that context, Jewish leaders were also heard, some of which advocated the formation of a Jewish autonomous area in Palestine or even an independent state. Here you can see a map that shows how the country that today forms Israel would have been divided up according to one suggestion being discussed back then. The 1937 Peel Commission report concluded as follows. Partition offers a possibility of finding a way through the difficulties, a possibility of obtaining a final solution of the Jewish problem which does justice to the rights and aspirations of both the Arabs and the Jews and discharges the obligations undertaken towards them 20 years ago to the fullest extent that is practicable in the circumstances of the present time. Nothing came of it back then though, as we know today. However, what is interesting in our present context is the testimony of one witness who testified in 1936 during the commission's hearing, doctor Chaim Weissman. Here is the article from the London Times of November 23, 1936, which reports about Wiseman's testimony. I put a red box around what interests us here and enlarged it. He spoke of 6,000,000 unwanted unfortunates in Eastern Europe that were condemned to be penned up in places where they could not live. Even in Western Europe, they were now threatened. 2nd was the world problem created by the presence of these 6,000,000 people without a future whose condition was a threat to Europe. A certificate permitting immigration to Palestine was regarded as a certificate of freedom. So here the future first president of the state of Israel lets the cat out of the bag. Jewish leaders were advocating a Zionist agenda and 6,000,000 suffering Jews were a convenient argument for this. Again, we won't discuss here whether Weissman's claims are accurate. We only note that he used the magical figure. Let's look into 2 media reports during the 1st years of Hitler's reign. The first is from the newspaper of record, The New York Times, of September 8, 1935. This article is actually mainly about Jews in Poland, but it features what we are looking for. I quote, the first conference of the Federation of Polish Jews was being attended by 60 delegates from 18 countries representing 6,000,000 Jews, although there is nothing in it about suffering Jews. The next media item sure is. It is from March 29, 1939 and addresses claimed persecutions of Jews in Germany. It says that the joint distribution committee is now active in relief and reconstruction work in Eastern Europe where 6,000,000 Jews are involved. The work there is done through the office in Berlin. This brings up a topic which brings us to the second part of this presentation because the joint distribution committee mentioned here has been involved in Jewish relief activities for many years before Hitler came to power. 6,000,000 Jews mentioned before Hitler came to power. At this point, we'll stop our journey back in time and do our journey chronologically. We start with looking into Jewish lobbying activities prior to the First World War. Then we will briefly look into what was going on during that First World conflagration, after which we will investigate Jewish fundraising campaigns between the world wars. Finally, we will follow the money to see what is really going on. We start by going back to the year when the magical number was mentioned for the first time. It was in the year 18 50 in a book published by a Christian society trying to make Jews convert to Christianity. On page 216 of this book, we find some statistical numbers on religious affiliations of mankind during that era. Here it is, enlarged with the magical number underlined, claiming that among the 1,000,000,000 people living on the planet, 6,000,000 were Jews. The next occurrence we have located stems from the year 18 66 in yet another Christian publication, which repeats the number from 1850 on its page 677. Probably in lack of any reliable demographic data, the number keeps popping up elsewhere. For instance, in the New York Times of September 12, 18 69, where we read under the headline Sunday notes with reference to a new Jewish weekly that there are now living about 6,000,000 Israelites, nearly one half of whom live in Europe. This is repeated again in the same newspaper on October 31st of that same year under the headline religious intelligence. 20 years later in a New York Times article of February 10, 18, 89, which actually asked the question how many Jews are there, the numbers still hadn't changed. This makes me suspect that nobody was actually counting the Jews. They were just copying that figure from whoever wrote it first since it was a round, sexy number. Before rushing ahead, let's take a step backward in time. On March 13, 18, 81, the Russian czar, Alexander the second, was assassinated by political radicals. At the right, you can see a portrait of him, and below, a painting showing an artist's take on the scene when that assassination actually happened in Petersburg. Since many political radicals in Russia were Jewish, pogroms against Jews flared up in Russia, lasting for more than a year. Although the czar's government didn't seem to have contributed to them, they were accused of not doing enough to put a stop to it. Here is the cover of a book which tells the grim story of that year. The New York Times reported on those pogroms, for instance, in a long article on January 28, 18 82 with the headline, Russian Jewish Horrors, a 9 months record of rape, murder, and outrage, which summarized the events of the prior 9 months. On April 22, 18, 82, in an article headlined Russia and the Jews, the same newspaper even used a buzzword in connection with the Russian pogroms, annihilation. The next czar, Alexander the third, was massively opposed to political reforms and wanted to turn the clock back while the world around him expected Russia to become more liberal. In particular, he had an axe to grind with the Jews as they were the ones pushing most ardently for liberalization. Hence, in May 18 82, czar Alexander the third tightened residential and professional limits for the Jews in Russia. Several towns and provinces subsequently expelled their Jews, erroneously thinking that the czar had issued a UK expelling them from Russia altogether. As a result, Jews started emigrating from Russia by the 1,000. The New York Times was reporting about this ongoing persecution of Jews in Russia peaking in 18/91 with numerous articles. The first one appeared on January 26 where it said, Russia's population of 5,000,000 to 6,000,000 Jews, and elsewhere, about 6,000,000 persecuted in miserable wretches. The Times reporting on Jews in Russia culminated in a series of 15 articles by a certain Harold Frederick, stretching from early September to late December 18 91. Almost all of them were printed on the front page. The first was titled Russia's war on the Jews, while all the other subsequent 14 articles were titled An Indictment of Russia. The second sequel of this series of September 12th gave as the total number of Jews living in Russia, again, an estimate of 6,000,000. And now here they come, all 15 of them. I won't go into any details again because we're not concerned with the underlying claimed or actual historical events, but rather with the origin of that magical number. I only want to highlight here that second sequel, which at the bottom of the first column says about the number of Jews living in Russia. Quote, a total of 6,000,000 is most nearly correct. This number was repeated in a New York Times article headlined Russia and religious liberty on March 15, 18 96. Here it is underlined in red. During the reign of czar Alexander the third, Russia wanted to get rid of its Jews, but no country would accept them. With no place to go, Jewish lobby groups were looking for a way out. That was a situation which would repeat itself some 50 years later in Germany, by the way. In 18/97, Theodor Herzl published his now famous book, Der Judenstaat, The Jewish State, which gave the Zionist movement a tremendous boost. Jewish media and organizations increasingly lobbied for the immigration of Jews to Palestine and for the resurrection of Israel. For example, as the New York Times reports on June 11th 1900, during a Zionists mass meeting in New York, Rabbi Steven Weisz said, there are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism. Although Russia started implementing serious liberal reforms with the secession of czar Nicholas the second to the throne in 18/94, Russia wasn't coming to rest. On April 19th through 21st in 1903, an anti Jewish pogrom occurred in the Russian town of Kishinev. On May 16th, The New York Times reported about the event. And way down toward the lower end of this long article, we read, quote, we charge the Russian government with responsibility of the Kishinev massacre. We say it is steeped to the eye in the guilt of this Holocaust. Yep. There it is, a Holocaust. But that's not all. Further below, we read, quote, so long as a civilized government brands 5,000,000 people as perilous pest, which must be slowly annihilated so long its baser subjects will think themselves justified in accelerating the process of extermination with knives, axes, and hatchets. So annihilation, extermination, and a holocaust. It's all there. The article's only deficit is that it missed the magical figure by a1000000. In the same vein, the New York Times wrote on May 20th of that same year, again with reference to the Kishineff Massacre, quote, this barbaric holocaust, end quote. The spell was broken. A fashionable word had been minted, the Holocaust. On November 10, 1905, the New York Times used the buzzword again. The background of this was the failed attempt to overthrow the czar. During that aborted revolution, political radicals, mostly socialists and communists, failed to do what they would succeed in doing 12 years later. As before, this attempted revolution was again fueled by a disproportionate number of Jewish radicals and with a lot of Jewish support even from abroad. The New York Times reported this attempted putsch rather favorably. But when things went bad for the revolutionaries, retaliatory excesses against Jews were again on the rise, resulting in this renewed accusation of a holocaust by The New York Times. 3 days later on November 13th, we read the following in The New York Times on page 1, Jews are being exterminated. And then on page 4, in an article denouncing the Russian Orthodox Church for its alleged responsibility in those pogroms, The Times uses the word Holocaust again with reference to the Kishinev massacre. It is even claimed that the Russian church had, quote, repeatedly declared that the Jew must be either converted or exterminated. Again, we won't check whether that's true. We are only interested in the history of the magical number, and while we're at it, if we stumble over similar buzzwords, I'll present them here too. As we have seen during the previous slide, as we approach the First World War, things are heating up and Jewish lobby groups are pushing for a Jewish homeland. Here is an article in the New York Times from October 20, 19 4, pipe dreaming about Britain handing over to Jews some colony in Africa. England's offer of land in South Africa, says the subtitle, and further below, the promised land has shifted to East Africa. But what we're after can be found further below. The reason for Jews trying to find some homeland, the suppressed 6,000,000 Jews in Russia. I mentioned before that the New York Times was supportive of the aborted Russian Revolution of 1905. Here is an article from January 29, 1905 proving the point. It was written in the wake of civil unrest which eventually led to that failed putsch. A Jewish preacher is quoted saying that, quote, a free and a happy Russia with its 6,000,000 Jews would possibly mean the end of Zionism. In other words, if a revolution would liberate Russia, Jews would get lucky and wouldn't have to leave Russia. After the failed 1905 revolution in Russia, the New York Times published more reports on 6,000,000 suffering Jews. Here are some examples. Reporting about the resignation of a top official of the Russian Orthodox Church, we read on November 1, 1905, quote, from 1890 to 1902, he caused 6,000,000 Jews to be expelled from Russia. Now if that were so, there wouldn't have been any Jews left in Russia afterwards. But be that as it may, right now, we are only interested in tracking that symbolic figure here. On March 25, 1906, we read in the newspaper of record that, quote, starting reports of the condition and future of Russia's 6,000,000 Jews indicate that, quote, the Russian government's studied policy for the solution of the Jewish question is systematic and murderous extermination. Does that rhetoric sound familiar? Almost 5 years later, in an article from March 13, 1910 about Jews fleeing from Russia, we read in the same newspaper again that magical number of Jews suffering in Russia. And again on April 11, 1910, on the sad plight of the Russian Jews where, quote, 6,000,000 souls are subject to systematic, relentless, quiet grinding down, whatever that means. October 31, 1911. Christian churches plea for the Jews and the New York Times reports in the middle column of that article about a resolution passed where we read that, quote, the 6,000,000 Jews of Russia are singled out for systematic oppression and for persecution by due process of law. My last pre World War one example from the New York Times is from December 10, 1911. This is a huge full page article dedicated to the oppressed Jews in Russia. The rightmost column has the buzzwords we are looking for at the very bottom in the red box shown here, which I magnify. Now the New York Times sure wasn't the only media outlet propagating that 6,000,000 Jews were being persecuted and exterminated by Russia, but it was the most prominent and prestigious source to do so. In a similar vein, one of the most prestigious publications of American Jewry, the American Jewish Yearbook, wrote on page 308 of its edition covering the years 1911 to 1912, quote, the position of our Jewish co religionists in Russia grows increasingly deplorable. And further down, quote, Russia has since 18/90 adopted a deliberate plan to expel or exterminate 6,000,000 of its people. This frenzy was jacked up to near fever pitch once the Great War had broken out. Here are some quotes from the New York Times published during that conflict. On December 1914, we read about, quote, the plight of more than 6,000,000 Jews who live within the war zone. On January 14, 1915, in support of a fundraising campaign, we are told that, quote, more than 6,000,000 Jews are in the very heart of the war zone. On February 28, 1916, again, in connection with the attempt to raise funds, The Times reports that, quote, nearly 6,000,000 Jews are ruined. Almost at the end of the war on October 18, 1918, in an attempt to get $1,000,000,000 from American donors in support of whatever was happening in Russia back then. I think they had a quote unquote successful revolution there for a change. The Times reported in its subtitle that 6,000,000 souls will need help without saying what kinds of souls they are. But further down, this is then spelled out, 6,000,000 Jews need help. In the middle of the First World War, the American Jewish Committee published a booklet which played a major role in shaping public opinion in the US as to the situation of Jews in Russia because 25,000 free copies of this booklet were sent to leaders of US society and molders of public opinion, including President Wilson, members of the presidential cabinet and Congress, and the media. The language used in this book was subsequently reused extensively by other sources such as The New York Times. The general theme of this publication was that Jews in Eastern Europe experienced a unique suffering which was not experienced by any other group of people. The booklet claimed that Jews were uniquely denied elementary rights and that they were victims of government sponsored persecution. What interests us here are buzzwords like 6,000,000 and extermination. On pages 12, it's claimed that Russia has a campaign of extermination running against the Jews. On page 19, it talks about 6,000,000 Jews living in squalor and misery. On page 20, it states that there are 6,000,000 Jews in Russia and further below that they live like prison inmates. On page 29, we have again the 6,000,000 Russian Jews. On page 47, it states that 6,000,000 Russian Jews ought to be loyal to their country and in similar vein on page 60. And finally, on page 66, claiming that nearly half of these 6,000,000 Jews are now without means of support. Roughly a year after the end of World War I, an article appeared in the Jewish periodical, the American Hebrew, with the headline, the crucifixion of Jews must stop. It contains so many buzzwords that it can rightly be called the pinnacle of pre World War 2 Holocaust propaganda. We read here, quote, from across the sea, 6,000,000 men and women call us for help. A little further down, that magical number is repeated. We read that, quote, 6,000,000 human beings are being whirled toward the grave and that, quote, 6,000,000 men and women are dying. The next paragraph even says, quote, in this threatened holocaust of human life. And in the next column, it speaks about, quote, 6,000,000 famished men and women, 6,000,000 men and women are dying. Finally, we read that because of this war for democracy, 6,000,000 Jewish men and women are starving across the ocean. Never mind that in this so called war for democracy, the czarist monarchy fought alongside the British constitutional monarchy against the constitutional monarchies of Germany and Austria. Democracy had nothing to do with it, but, again, we're not concerned with historical facts here outside of tracking down that symbolic figure, so I'll leave it at that. As already mentioned before, Jewish organizations started raising huge amounts of money in order to support the Jews in Russia. If we want to understand what was going on at that time, we need a brief summary of those events. Since the communist push in late 1918, a brutal civil war was raging in Russia. The communist Reds were opposed by the counterrevolutionary whites who were units mostly loyal to the monarchy. Ethnic Jews, most of whom had been the most ardent enemies of the czarist system for decades for understandable reasons, dominated many of the leading ranks of the reds. Consequently, anti Jewish feelings among the whites and their supporters grew immensely. The result of this were more Jewish pogroms, but this time, the Jews were willing to fight back. For example, in an article of September 18, 1919, the New York Times reported on massacres against Jews committed by antisemitic gangs and by counter revolutionary units. According to the article, 127,000 Jews had already been killed in pogroms and all 6,000,000 were threatened to be next. Further down, it calls these pogroms massacres. And toward the end, it states, quote, this fact that the population of 6,000,000 souls in Ukrainia and in Poland have received notice through action and by word that they are going to be completely exterminated. On December 20, 1922, The New York Times reported with pride how Jews had formed their own militia in the young Soviet Union to fight against anti Jewish gangs and counter revolutionary insurgents in order to protect, quote, the lives and interests of 5,000,000 of their race living in Russia. At that time, when the Soviets had won the civil war, such a militia army was possible only with the Soviet government's support or at least tacit condoning. There is another 22 minute long video on YouTube titled 6,000,000 Jews, 1915 to 1938 at that address given here, which I can highly recommend. It shows a number of original newspapers of that time period and briefly highlights similar buzzwords as we are tracking here. The disturbing question that this raises is were Jewish groups in the US supporting the communist revolution? Fact is that by 1921, Jewish pressure groups in the US feared a collapse of communist Russia as they expected this to lead to a gargantuan pogrom against the Jews in Russia. A New York Times article of July 20, 1921 gets that point across already in the subtitle which states that massacres are threatened. Should the power of the Soviet regime wane? We read there, quote, Russia's 6,000,000 Jews are facing extermination by massacre as the famine is spreading the counter revolutionary movement is gaining and the Soviet's control is waning. The fundraising campaigns by Jewish lobby groups in the US were therefore focused not only on helping destitute Jews, but also on pressuring the US government to intervene. One might also wonder where the Jews in Russia got the means to organize and arm an army of 500,000 Jewish soldiers. Interestingly, the article was copied from the Chicago Daily Tribune, which, however, printed this article on the same date with a misleading headline trying to imply that the Jews were fleeing from the communists. Although the article states clearly that they only feared a defeat of the Reds during that revolutionary war. Let's now quickly go through a number of ads and articles dealing with the fundraising campaigns initiated by Jewish organizations in the US after World War 1 with the aim of supporting Jews and their various projects in Europe and the Soviet Union, whatever those projects might have been. My first example is an article in the New York Times of November 12, 1919, which talks about 6,000,000 starving Jews in Europe and about $30,000,000 which have already been spent to help them. Here is another one from April 21, 1920. Scrolling down, we find, well, this time only 5,000,000 starving Jews in Europe. This is an ad published in The New York Times on May 1 that same year. It's by the Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, and they are asking for big dollars to make sure that 6,000,000 lives are no longer at stake. This ad by the JDC is from 2 days later imploring to save the lives of 6,000,000 Jews by handing over the money. The previous ad was accompanied by an editorial article talking about a catastrophe taking place in Russia and neighboring countries. But again, missing the mark by a1000000 as it talks only about 5,000,000 starving Jews. But we're not picky. 2 days later, yet another ad with the same spiel by the JDC. And in the same edition, 10 pages on, we find this ad also from the JDC. Again, 2 days later, they're added again, this time with an article deploring the 6,000,000 Jewish war sufferers in Eastern Europe and asking for money. The campaign lost some of its momentum later that year, but it was rekindled in 1926. For instance, with an ad like this published in The New York Times on April 21, 1926, It doesn't mention 6,000,000 suffering Jews in that ad, only that, quote, millions of Jews, in fact, quote, a whole people is dying. But they actually asked for $6,000,000 for a change instead. This one is from late 1926 and talks about 5,000,000 suffering Jews, stating that the JDC has so far sent some $62,000,000 to Jewish sufferers in Europe, which were, quote, distributed among those 5,000,000 destitute Jews, but that more was needed. Not that all this fundraising helped much because after almost 15 years of more or less uninterrupted fundraising, 6,000,000 Jews were still dying in Eastern Europe as the Montreal Gazette claimed on December 29, 1931. So the JDC wanted some 2 and a half 1000000 more dollars. You get the picture. Let us now focus on what happened with all that money. Don Hetesheimer spends quite some time tracking down those 1,000,000 of dollars, which today would be worth 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars. This graphic shows how much the Jewish Joint Distribution Committee collected from its inception in late 1914 until 1934. That chart was taken from a book published in 1935 by the Jewish billionaire banker, Felix Warburg. All in all, the JTC raised some $77,000,000 throughout those years. While most of the funds raised in the war and immediate post war years were spent mostly on helping people in need, later years saw a shift toward a larger portion of Reconstruction activities. The Joint Distribution Committee was and still is to this day a Jewish organization which was represented by some of the most influential and rich individuals on the planet like Louis d Brandeis, an associate justice of the US Supreme Court from 1916 to 1939. Henry Morgenthau, senior US ambassador to the Ottoman Empire during the first World War and father of Henry Morgenthau junior, the US secretary of the treasury during the administration of Franklin d Roosevelt, US banker Jacob h Schiff, and Cyrus l Sulzberger, a leading figure in many US Jewish organizations and the already mentioned Felix Warburg. This image here shows some of these celebrities as published in the book mentioned on the right. But that's not the whole story. Fact is that tens of 1,000,000 of these dollars raised did not just serve emergency relief and Reconstruction activities as the JDC claimed in that chart just shown. An article in The New York Times of September 7, 1927 accused members of the JDC of misappropriating millions of these donations for their own needs. As much as 40%, it was claimed, may have, quote, disappeared in the manipulations by the bankers on the subject of exchange. No formal investigation was ever launched though, so we don't know for sure what exactly happened. Fact is that in addition to the above mentioned projects, those 1,000,000 of US dollars were also used to support Jewish communist agricultural settlements throughout the Soviet Union. They moreover served, quote, general improvements, electrification of villages, irrigation, water supply, and other projects. Throughout Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union as the JDC itself admitted in a 1939 book with the title, 25 years of American aid to Jews overseas. A record of the Joint Distribution Committee. In another JDC book published in 1953, we find this remarkable admission, quote, without the full cooperation of the Russian government, these tasks could not have been accomplished. In other words, the Soviet Union welcomed this massive influx of US capital meant to stabilize the lives of Russian Jews since it also helped stabilize this revolutionary regime to a small degree. As hinted at before, it would also not be surprising to find out that some of the funds were used to support the Jewish militias fighting alongside the Red Army during the revolutionary civil war in the early 19 twenties. And that's only regarding funds that were raised and transferred to the Soviet Union through official channels. But, again, that's not the focus of this presentation. In the last part of this presentation, we will approach our topic in a broader, more general way. For this purpose, I have tapped into 3 databases which can be accessed online. First, we have the Library of Congress search engine of historic American newspapers, which featured digitized US newspapers from 18 36 to 1922. I have searched it for the terms 6,000,000 Jews, both written out and as a number. The first case I have found, 71 results, and in the second, 198. Curious as I was, I also searched the database for 7, 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1,000,000. The results are given in parentheses. So there is no particular predominance for 6,000,000. However, when looking up the actual newspaper articles, it turns out that only the entries of 7, 6, and 5,000,000 are predominantly about claims of suffering Jews or Jews in danger of being exterminated, with a focus on 56,000,000. Lower figures are usually about some mundane issue, like how many Jews live in New York or in the US or some other country, for instance. Here are three examples of entries I have found using this database which meet our criteria. I will just scroll through them without boring you with even more details. If you want to read it, just pause this video. I have done the same kind of search on the New York Times database at the address given, and for additions spanning from 1851 to 19 39. This results in only 4 entries for 6,000,000 Jews, with the number written out, and 16 entries with the actual number. Results for other round million figures are again listed in parentheses where the same observation applies as mentioned before. Here are three examples of the New York Times writing actually about 7,000,000 suffering, starving, dying Jews. Stop the video to read details if you wish. I've also searched the database of the Chicago Tribune, but the results there are rather meager. After all, the New York Times was owned and run by Jews, whereas the Chicago Tribune was not. This may account for the difference, but the Chicago Daily Tribune, as it was called back then, was not immune to the 6,000,000 propaganda either, as this example of 1919 shows, which states that, quote, more than 6,000,000 Jews are suffering. Now if you think I have presented a lot of material published prior to the end of the second World War, which refers to 6,000,000 suffering and dying Jews, think again. Because there is more, and the most comprehensive list I've seen so far, spanning from years 1990 to the end of World War 2 with currently 278 entries can be found on the Internet address listed here. Don't worry. We won't get into any of them here. I'll just let some of the first entries scroll through to give you an impression. If you are interested in the entire list, you can get there also by simply entering the Google shortcut goo.gl/h8auqj. Now if you are trying to convince a skeptic, this list might not do the trick because anyone can make up such a list. In that case, you'd have to present not just the source information, but the reproductions of the actual newspaper articles. And guess what? That's been done by a very diligent researcher as well. It has been published as an ebook with the title 6,000,000 Open Gates whose cover is shown here. It can be downloaded free of charge at the address given. If that's too much to type, just use the Google shortcut. This book contains reproductions of 240 media items between 1900 late 1945. I'm showing here only the first 21 entries. The author of this book has gone to great lengths and huge expenses to put this work together. So in case you need to see the actual article to believe it, just grab an electronic copy of that book. And make no mistake, this list is still not complete. Let's take a more scientific, statistical approach to the matter at hand. The world's largest Internet search engine, Google, has posted millions of books online. This database can be used to find out how often a certain term I have also done the same search for the same term in the I have also done the same search for the same term in the second most common media language, which is German. The result for 6 millionen Juden are shown in red. Now, let's make an overlay. The tendency in both languages is similar, but the peaks are more pronounced in the German, maybe because there is less data. Anyway, we see here a first rise of that figure with ongoing pogroms in Russia under czar Alexander the 3rd, then a steep rise starting just prior to the First World War with a peak during the fundraising campaign of the early 19 twenties. And another less pronounced one during the campaign's second phase in the mid and late 19 twenties. Next, we have a slight rise during the early years of Nazi Germany. A further slow rise during the 1st years of the 2nd World War. With an extreme rise after the outbreak of the German Soviet War in mid 1941. The curve hits a maximum in the mid and late 19 forties around the Nuremberg tribunals and its legal and media aftermaths. Then we have another sharp peak around the 1961 Eichmann trial in Jerusalem with a slight decrease in the Anglo Saxon world, but a more pronounced one in the German media sphere, probably because the Germans weren't quite in tune with the new zeitgeist yet. The last rise of the curve indicates that 6,000,000 has turned into a household term, but the later decrease is probably merely due to newer books being underrepresented in Google's database due to copyright protection issues. Let's summarize what we've learned. The term 6,000,000 Jews could be found in Anglo Saxon media reports ever since the world's Jewish population had reached roughly 6,000,000 in the mid 1800. The anti Jewish pogroms and legal measures in Russia after the assassination of Czar Alexander the second in 18/81 made 6,000,000 Jews a buzzword. Terms like extermination and Holocaust made their first appearance in this context at the dawn of 20th century. During the aborted communist revolution of 1905, these words were even used together with an alleged solution of the Jewish question as a policy of murderous extermination. The First World War with its subsequent Russian slash communist revolution, which was very popular among many Jews both in Russia and abroad, resulted in further hardship for the Jews in Russia. This in turn led to a steep increase in the use of these buzzwords. Fundraising campaigns in the US for Jews in Eastern Europe kept those terms in the media during the early and mid 1920s. The rise of National Socialism in Germany steadily reinvigorated the use of these terms from the very beginning of the Third Reich. We conclude, therefore, that we have known since the 18 eighties that 6,000,000 Jews have been threatened more or less continuously with extermination in a Holocaust. So what, you may ask, what is this supposed to prove, if anything? Well, here are some tough questions. In 18/82, was there a struggle for the annihilation of Jews? In 1903, did the Russian government decide that Jews must be annihilated so that they underwent a process of extermination in this barbaric holocaust? In 1905, was there a holocaust in which Jews must be exterminated? In 1906, was the Russian government's policy to solve the Jewish question by way of murderous extermination? In 1911, had Russia adopted a plan to exterminate 6,000,000 Jews? In 1915, was there a Russian campaign of extermination against the Jews? In 1919, were 6,000,000 Jews dying in this threatened Holocaust? Were 6,000,000 Jewish souls going to be completely exterminated? In 1920, was it necessary to save 6,000,000 Jews from extermination? In 1921, were Russia's 6,000,000 Jews facing extermination by massacre? In 1926, was the whole Jewish people dying? To ask these questions in such a condensed form means to answer them. Because what we are dealing with here was exaggeration and hyperbole. Fact is that prior to the communist revolution, Holocaust and extermination claims were exaggerations used to lobby for facilitation of Jewish immigration to the US and to other countries, creation of a Jewish national homeland, and regime change in Russia. Once that regime change had been accomplished in Russia at the end of World War 1, Holocaust and extermination claims didn't cease but rather continued. This time, these exaggerations were used to raise funds meant to assist Jewish communities in Eastern Europe to prevent success of the czarist counterrevolution and thus to effectively stabilize the fledgling communist regime in Russia. The advent of the Third Reich led to the repetition of some of the patterns. Holocaust and extermination claims were exaggerated, at least until the outbreak of the German Soviet war, which was by its very nature a counter revolutionary war. These exaggerations were again used to lobby for facilitation of Jewish immigration to the US and to other countries. Creation of a Jewish national homeland in Palestine, and finally, regime change in Germany. We all know the outcome of that struggle. Okay. So Holocaust, extermination, 6,000,000 Jewish victims, and a murderous solution to the Jewish question, all these are recycled terms, so to say. But what about gas chambers? They surely must be genuinely linked to the Third Reich. Right? Well, the truth is, no. On March 22, 1916, during the worst part of the First World War for Britain, the traditionally anti German newspaper, The Daily Telegraph, published an article with the title Atrocities in Serbia. In this subtitle, it mentions 700,000 victims. Now, all historians without exception agree today that this news report was false atrocity propaganda. But let's read it. It says, quote, according to reliable information yeah. Sure. The victims of the Austrians and Bulgarians exceeded 700,000. Whole districts with towns and villages have been depopulated by massacres. Women, children, and old men were shut up in the churches by the Austrians and either stabbed with a bayonet or suffocated by means of asphyxiating gas. In one church in Belgrade, 3,000 women, children and old men were thus suffocated. End quote. Okay. So that was atrocity propaganda, a lie designed to stir up the war weary British public so they would keep up the fight against their German brothers who were offering peace since 1915. Compare the previous article with this one though, which was again published by the rabidly anti German Daily Telegraph. This one on June 25, 1942. Britain was again embroiled in a fratricidal war against their German brethren. But this time, the 700,000 victims are already announced in the main title, and the gas chambers have become mobile. Also, by moving up from the lower half of the article to the subtitle, we read here, quote, more than 700,000 Polish Jews have been slaughtered by the Germans in the greatest massacre in the world's history. Now, this time this news report was the whole and unembellished, indubitable truth. And you better believe it because doubting this can get you prison terms of up to 10 years in Austria, 5 years in Germany, Russia, and Israel, 3 years in Italy, Switzerland, Poland, and Hungary, and lower prison terms in many more countries. This is actually the only claimed event in the history of mankind that has ever been protected from critical investigation by penal law. But again, that's not the subject of this presentation, so be that as it may. Fact is that with Germany's collapse in 1945, the nightmarish gas chambers used to kill most of the 6,000,000 Jews who fell victim to the Holocaust, that is to say, the Nazis' solution to the Jewish question by means of murderous extermination, note that any resemblance of the terms used here with those used during past events is purely coincidental. These gas chambers were a matter of the past. Gone for good. Done. Wrong again. False war propaganda struck again in 1991 when the world was gearing up to wage a war against Saddam Hitler. Sorry. Saddam Hussein. During that first US led war against Iraq, the Jewish press had this unobtrusive headline on the front page of its issue dated February 21, 1991. I'm not going to analyze it here. The Simon Wiesenthal Center jumped on that same bandwagon with the spring 1991 issue of their periodical Response. Here is the title page of that infamous edition where we read, quote, Germans produce Zyklon B in Iraq, end quote. They even show a German made gas chamber allegedly planned to be used on the Jews of Israel should Saddam ever make it there. Again, everybody agrees today that this was just another case of wartime hysteria of false atrocity propaganda. But it did the trick to whip the world into a war of extermination against the nation of Iraq, if I may borrow that term. Does anyone care what the truth was? So at the end of this presentation, let's pose that initial question again. Since when do we know that 6,000,000 Jews died in the Holocaust? To answer this question, we need to know 2 things. 1st, which 6,000,000 are we talking about? And second, which Holocaust? Thank you for taking the time to watch this presentation. We hope you enjoyed it and learned something about the mendacity of our mass media when it comes to stirring up the world's nations into waging war and causing violent civil unrest, revolution, and other means of more or less violent forms of regime change. And if you would like to read the book upon which this presentation is based, you can find it on Amazon or anywhere else books can be bought. Or go to www.holocausthandbooks.com for more information.
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The Zionist playbook. https://t.co/SGsBWbeRQ2

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There is a Zionist playbook from 2009 that guides people on how to defend Israel, with rules for communication and language to use. It advises showing fake empathy and avoiding certain phrases. The playbook aims to shape the narrative around Israel and Palestine, influencing how people talk about the conflict. This scripted approach is seen in media, politics, and interviews, shaping public perception and discussion.
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Speaker 0: So I think people thought I was joking when I said, hey, that's just a line from the Zionist playbook, but there's actually a Zionist playbook. It was published in 2009 to help people defend the atrocities of Israel. And if you don't believe me, you could just type in that title, The Israel Project, and you could download the 116 page document. It even has a table of contents, rules for effective communication, glossary of words that work, how to talk about Palestine's self government and prosperity, Isolating Iran backed Hamas as an obstacle to peace. Israel's right to self defense and defensible borders. You ever wonder why everyone sounds the same when they're talking about Israel? There's no second opinion? It's because it's literally written out for them. This is not this is 18 chapters. So here, this one, this is like one of chapter 1, the 25 rules for effective communication and the first point is, it doesn't matter if you know, you need to show the other side you care. So they're telling people to fake caring. So persuadables don't won't care how much you know until they know how much you care. Show empathy empathy for both sides. So this is like a tactic that they tell people to do. It's weird that they have to write it out. So this was nice too. Things not to say. We are prepared to allow them to build. Don't use that. Don't use that we allow them to build. Even though that's what they're doing, they're saying, don't using it. Don't use it. Try this one. Achieving peaceful relations requires a leadership, political business, and military of both sides. And so, we ask the Palestinians, stop using that language of incitement, stop using the language of violence. And, you know, they're trying to turn it back on the Palestinian, but this is this is a script. So when I say, this is a Zionist line or from the playbook because it literally is from the playbook and this is what every probably, reporter or anchor on TV has in front of them. Every congressman is probably given this when they, you know, get sworn in. Here's your copy of the, Israel's Zionist playbook. So this is, like amazing that this isn't like exposed yet but how can the current Palestinian leadership honestly say, it will pursue peace when previous leaders rejected an offer? You always hear that. What about the offers that were rejected? It came from here. This is like this is still chapter 1, I think, page, like, whatever. But how do I make peace with a government who wants me dead? Why are they phrasing you like that? You ever wonder why they phrase it like that? Because they're told to phrase it like this. This is actually, I heard Peace Morgan use one of these in his, in his interview with Sinek and he said that's a weird way to phrase the question. It's an unfair way to phrase the question, and this is why. Because he got it from the playbook. It's right here. These are the questions you're gonna hear a lot time and time again because it is scripted for them.
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The Israel Project's book on effective communication is intriguing. Americans respond better to facts, actions, and results. As I continue reading, I start to feel brainwashed. Step 8 discusses how to keep tax money flowing. Step 9-10 suggests brainwashing Americans with "terrorism" to create a team to cheer for. The playbook continues with steps 11-12, 13-14, and 15-16. It's concerning how this can be seen as brainwashing. Steps 16-17 make me realize the need to wake up. The brainwashing continues with steps 18-25. This is just one chapter of the book.

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The Israel Project. (2009) Chapter 1. THE 25 RULES FOR EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION Interesting...... https://t.co/nPiHNmdg47

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Chapters 2 & 3. "Americans respond better to facts, actions & results." https://t.co/givDMgbrFg

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Chapters 4 & 5. https://t.co/1yg775zsmB

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Chapters 6 & 7. Starting to feel, brainwashed....? https://t.co/ilNY38YBRp

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How to keep the tax money flowing in step 8. https://t.co/Ct42yLRJwD

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Step 9-10.

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Americans want a team to cheer for, so let's brainwash them with "terrorism." DRAW DIRECT PARALLELS BETWEEN ISRAEL & AMERICA - INCLUDING THE NEED TO DEFEND AGAINST TERRORISM IN STEP 10.

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Steps 11-12 of the brainwash playbook. https://t.co/B0Rdwws206

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Steps 13-14 of the Israeli playbook (2019) How're we feeling? Only 14 steps in. https://t.co/6RnYcpAJ89

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Steps 15-16. If you don't think this is brainwash, well... https://t.co/JnTgTFTEPD

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Steps 16-17. We might wanna wake up. https://t.co/9l2Md0yosL

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Step 18 continued, followed by 19-22. Brainwash city. https://t.co/PXFxKtuPbL

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Steps 23-25. Thats just 1 chapter of this book. https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf https://t.co/zHBHJt6Hbz

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1995: Israel's far-right assassinates their own prime minister to prevent him from ending genocide against Palestine Interesting…. https://t.co/KT0xOq1UdN

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Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by right-wing Israeli Jew Yigal Amir, causing shock and grief. Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu for her husband's death, citing incitement. The assassination occurred after a peace rally in Tel Aviv, sparking blame and anger towards Netanyahu and Likud. The event also impacted the Palestinian community, with Rabin's widow expressing her blame on worldwide television.
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Speaker 0: The Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, the architect of the Middle East peace process, has been assassinated. Speaker 1: The assassin? A right wing Israeli Jew, Yigal Amir. Speaker 2: Truly shocking news from the Middle East tonight. Israel's prime minister, Yitzhak Rabin, has been assassinated. Evenings spent dreaming of peace turns into a national nightmare. Speaker 1: Outside the hospital, the crowd began to chant. Phoebe is a murderer. A sign says BB Rabin's blood is on your hands. Speaker 2: An assassin has taken yet another world leader away from us. It was just after the biggest peace rally in Tel Aviv. Speaker 1: Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu for contributing to her husband's death. Speaker 2: Of Yitzhak Rabin has also produced shock in the Palestinian community. Speaker 1: And said so on worldwide television. Speaker 2: Your husband pointed the finger at mister Netanyahu and said, you must stop this incitement. To what extent do you blame mister Netanyahu and the Likud for what has happened? Speaker 3: I do I do blame them. Neroli and Khikazian and Jerusalem that showed him in the uniform of a Nazi. So mister Bibi Netanyahu, now we can say from here to eternity that he didn't support it and didn't agree with it, but he was there, and he didn't stop it.
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Here's what Ursula Haverbeck had to say in 2015.

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The speaker claims that the Holocaust is the biggest and most enduring lie in history. They argue that there is no evidence to support the existence of gas chambers or the murder of six million Jews. They believe that the Holocaust is a lie perpetuated by the post-war political agenda and that the truth needs to be uncovered. They also question the credibility of the standard and commandant orders from the concentration camps, suggesting that they were focused on labor and not mass extermination. The speaker believes that it is important to challenge the mainstream narrative of the Holocaust and that people should be willing to pay the price for seeking the truth.
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Speaker 0: Sie haben für Aufsehen gesorgt mit einem Satz, der lautet, Der Holocaust ist die grösste und nachhaltigste Lüge in der Geschichte. Wie meinen Sie das? Speaker 1: Das habe ich natürlich auch etwas in Anlehnung an den Forrison gesagt, der als einer der Ersten nach diesen Gas kammern gesucht hat in den Konzentrationslagern und keine gefunden hat. Ich meine es in dem Sinne heute: Es gibt, glaube ich, keine Lüge, die nachhaltiger und verändernder gewirkt hat. Und zwar nicht nur in Deutschland, sondern beinahe weltweit als dieser Holocaust. Ich müsste sehr suchen, etwas entsprechendes zu finden Speaker 0: Weil er nicht so stattgefunden hat, meinen Sie? Speaker 1: Ja, wenn es nicht geht mit Zyklon B, was gesagt wird, wenn es keine Gaskammern gab, was sehr viele inzwischen sagen, dann muss die Frage beantwortet werden: Wo denn dann die sechs Millionen? Das habe ich fünf Jahre systematisch gemacht mit Freunden, keine Antwort bekommen, aber nicht eine. Dann Hab ich dem Justizminister geschrieben: Das ist die Situation. Können Sie jetzt bitte eine öffentliche Gegenüberstellung der Befürworter und der Gegner machen? Keine Antwort. Dann hab ich ihm geschrieben: Ja, wenn Sie mir dazu keine Antwort geben, dann bleibt nur die Konsequenz, die zu ziehen ist, und der Schluss Den Holocaust gab es nicht! Und dann ist er wirklich die größte Lüge, die es jemals gegeben hat Es gibt doch Juristen, die sagen, Die ganze Nachkriegspolitik bricht zusammen, wenn das infrage gestellt wird. Deswegen wird es auch so vehement verteidigt. Logischerweise. Normalbürger. Heute ein Schlag ins Gesicht. Speaker 0: Genau. Jeder hat es so gelernt. Der Holocaust hat stattgefunden, hat mit sechs Millionen Toten stattgefunden. Können Sie noch mal in wenigen Sätzen erläutern, warum der Holocaust für Sie die grösste Lüge der Geschichte ist Speaker 1: Weil es die nachhaltigste ist, weil sie am meisten Auswirkungen hat Und wenn man keine Antwort bekommt, auch nicht vom Zentralrat der Juden in Deutschland, den ich mindestens viermal deswegen angeschrieben habe, wo die denn umgebracht worden sind, dann ist das eigentlich eine Antwort. Und die zweite Antwort ist, wenn man ein Gesetz braucht, was es festschreibt und unter Strafe stellt, wenn man es offen erforscht, dann ist das das nächste Problem. Die Wahrheit braucht keinen. Daraus wird deutlich, dass da was nicht stimmt. Wenn man dann sieht, was alles aufgebaut worden ist, und dann sagen die Juristen einem sogar: Die ganze Nachkriegspolitik bricht zusammen, wenn das infrage gestellt wird, dann ist eigentlich ziemlich klar, dass es die grösste ist und die grösste Unwahrheit, wenn man keine Antwort bekommt und aus Schwyz nicht aufrecht zu erhalten ist. Speaker 0: Siebzig Jahre danach, nach dem Holocaust, könnten Sie sagen, Sie verbringen einen Gehorsam am Lebensabend. Was treibt Sie an? Speaker 1: Diese Widersprüche, die das Leben der Menschen belasten. Und - das muss ich auch noch hinzufügen Es ist ja die Angehörigen meiner Generation, die furchtbar gelitten haben. Alles, was gesagt wird an Schrecklichkeiten, wird nur im Hinblick auf andere gesagt. Es wird aber nicht davon gesprochen. Es gibt auch keine grosse Gedenkstätte, dass man fünfzehn Millionen Ostdeutsche - dazu gehöre ich auch - vertrieben hat. Das ist die gesamte Bevölkerung Skandinaviens. Stellen Sie sich mal vor, das kriegt alles ein Zettel an die Tür, morgen bis an und dann muss das Haus verlassen haben. Schlüssel muss aussen stecken bleiben. Es darf nichts mitgenommen werden ausser zwanzig Kilogramm. Die kamen dann und davon wurden zweieinhalb bis drei Millionen wirklich bestialisch ermordet zu Tode vergewaltigt mit Panzer überrollt und so weiter Und selbst Konrad Adenauer sagt in seiner ersten Bernauer Rede, ganz kurz nach Gründung der Wir haben viele Probleme, aber das grösste Problem sind vierzehn Millionen das meint er von den Amerikanern zu wissen: vierzehn Millionen Vertriebene - von denen sechs Millionen nie angekommen sind, Die sind gestorben und verdorben. Merkt auch sechs Millionen. Heute wissen wir eigentlich, dass es wahrscheinlich dreieinhalb waren oder zweieinhalb, das ist nie ganz genau zu ermitteln, die nicht angekommen sind. Aber vielleicht ist Adenua ja doch recht und wir wissen nicht genau, das ging ja alles drunter und drunter. Speaker 0: Kann man, glaube ich, nicht mehr. Speaker 1: Jedenfalls Spaß. Nicht wie in Dresden heute gemacht wird 25'000 Opfer. Dann heisst das, dass Dresden praktisch leer war. Also das ist eine solche Lüge die auch nicht mehr zu überbieten ist, nicht? Denn die Dresdner selber haben mir gesagt nach der Wende hab ich mich angefragt was sagt man in Dresden wir sind umgekommen ja zweihundertfünfunddreißigtausend etwa nimmt man an aber es können noch viel mehr sein weil die noch unter den Trümmern liegen und dann fünfzehn Jahre später nachdem ich gehört hatte, dass da ein neuer Historiker, Zuniker, Zunft dran arbeitet, hab ich nochmal in der gleichen Stelle angefragt. Und die haben gesagt: Ja, die haben jetzt 35'000, aber wahrscheinlich kommen sie auf 25'000. Naja, es gibt also verschiedenste Lügen auf verschiedensten Seiten. Nur die andere ist gewichtiger. Und jetzt hat mich natürlich vor allen Dingen damit praktisch veranlasst: Wenn wir in eine Zukunft wollen, die menschengemäss und irgendgemäss ist, dann können wir das nicht mit lügen! Dann brauchen wir ein tragendes Fundament, auch die Völker, miteinander. Das Tragende vom Fundament kann nur Wahrheit sein. Deswegen muss diese Frage aufgearbeitet werden. Und das Verrückte ist: Je mehr sie danach fragen und versuchen, Boden unter die Füsse zu bekommen, desto grösser werden die Fragezeichen. Und was machen die Gerichte? Die haben dann eben ihr Unwissen versteckt hinter dem Wort offenkundig. Das hängt zusammen mit diesem Paragraph einhundertdreißig Volksverhetzung, der eintausendneunhundertvierundneunzig formuliert worden ist, als Gesetz dem Bundestag vorgelegt worden ist und die Abgeordneten haben gesagt Nein, das geht nicht. Der ist unvereinbar mit dem Artikel fünf Meinungsfreiheit - Freiheit der Forschung. Dann wurden die so bearbeitet, dass in der zweiten oder dritten Lesung Speaker 0: - Speaker 1: das kann ich nicht genau sagen, das könnten Sie ja nochmal recherchieren Da haben Sie dann mehrheitlich dem Paragraphen zugestimmt. Und dieser Paragraph ist schon sprachlich ein Unding. Der heisst nämlich: Mit fünf Jahren Gefängnis oder Geldstrafe wird belegt, wer - und dann kommt so ein Hinweis auf ein Völkerrecht - begangene Verbrechen des Nationalsozialismus willigt, leugnet oder verharmlost in einer Weise, die geeignet ist, den öffentlichen Frieden zu stören Erstmal heisst es: Begangene Verbrechen des Nationalsozialismus Es kann nicht gemeint, geglaubt, behauptet werden. Es muss eine Tatsache sein. Diese Tatsache ist aber inzwischen sehr umstritten. Also da fällt das schon weg. Das nächste, billigen, das größte Verbrechen, das die Menschheit je begangen hat, das soll ja der Holocaust sein, wird doch kein Mensch billigen, wenn es eindeutig ist. Sondern man erlebt doch eigentlich immer, selbst wenn's nur ein schwerer Verkehrsunfall ist oder ein Mord, das sagen die Mehrzahl der Menschen ganz strenge Strafe nicht? Die Menschen wollen immer nicht strenge Strafe aber die billigen das doch nicht. Also das ist sehr vage. Dann war ich ja im Bundesverwaltungsgericht in Leipzig wegen des Kollegiums. Da ging es das Wortleugnen. Und da sagte der Richter der Vorsitzende Richter zu. Der Vorsitzende Richter. Es waren fünf Herren. Dann müssten wir Ihnen nachweisen, dass Sie davon überzeugt sind, dass es den Holocaust gegeben hat. Denn leugnen heisst ja - das habe hatte ich vorher schon gesagt - etwas wieder besseres wissen behaupten. Das hängt mit Lügen zusammen, das Wort leugnen. Wenn Sie mich also anklagen, ich hätte das geleugnet, müssen Sie - sagt der Richter völlig recht - nachweisen, dass ich daran glaube. Das Gegenteil tun Sie aber bei der Anklage. Also das fällt in sich zusammen. Verharmlosen sagt er Ja, das ist eigentlich nicht ganz einzusehen, dass das strafbar sein soll. Gut. Jetzt ist es aber nicht so, dass jedes L leugnen oder jedes Verharmlosen eine Strafe nach sich zieht, sondern nur - das schreiben Sie erst am Ende - wenn es geeignet ist, den öffentlichen Frieden zu stören. Das sagt das Bundesverfassungsgericht völlig zu Recht zweitausendneun in dem berühmten Das ist eine Vermutung. Wer sagt denn, ob es geeignet ist? Woher wissen wir denn das, ob der Satz geeignet ist, der irgendwo steht? Den öffentlichen Frieden - was ist denn eigentlich der öffentliche Frieden? Das sind alles Vermutungen. Wenn das der einzige Punkt ist, aufgrund dessen die Aussage strafbar ist Speaker 0: – Speaker 1: und das ist eine Vermutung, sagt das Bundesverfassung, ist das Ganze nicht justiziabel. Und der Herr über Trantelt in der Süddeutschen Zeitung hat dann ja sogar geschrieben: Damit wird der Holocaust, dieser Paragraph einhundertdreißig, zu einer leeren Hülle, die nicht mehr juristisch verwertbar ist. Aber noch ist sie im Bundestag nicht gestrichen. Aber das ist eben ein solches Unding dieses Gesetz und man merkt daran richtig, wie die Abgeordneten zerstritten und mit sich selber im unrein waren und dann haben sie so ein abenteuerliches Sprachgebildeter gemacht wo was alles nicht vorne und nicht hinten nicht stimmt Und danach haben sie zum Beispiel einen Germa Rudolf, ein Chemiker, der eine chemische Substanz untersucht. Und das Ergebnis passte nicht in die politische Welt, dreieinhalb Jahre ins Gefängnis gebracht und beinahe zwölf Jahre, Auf so einem Gesetz. Das muss doch jeden Menschen innerlich aufrühren. Und auch zweifeln an einem sogenannten Rechtsstaat, der so etwas zulässt. Das ist etwas, was mich ganz stark natürlich dann angerichtet hat: Ich will einen Rechtsstaat! Ich will keinen Unrechtsstaat! Ich will keinen Staat, der dauernd von Recht. Und so weiter redet. Von Meinungsfreiheit - jetzt wieder in Frankreich - nicht. Und das Gegenteil macht. Das ist die Situation, die mich am meisten aufregt. Das ist meine Generation ist, die so Furchtbares erlitten hat. Wirklich. Und kein Mensch redet darüber. Man redet nur von den sechs Millionen Juden. Kein Schulkind weiss das, wie viel Vertriebene umgekommen sind. Die wissen noch nicht mal, dass Breslau mal eine deutsche Stadt war. Das ist doch unerträglich! Speaker 0: - Sie gehen doch ganz offen Ja, Olocross hat so nicht stattgefunden. Speaker 1: Nein, hat so. Und dann sage ich ja ausserdem noch: Das habe ich auch ins Internet gestellt. Das heißt aber nicht, dass ein einziger Revisionist jemals gesagt hätte, es hätte keine KZs gegeben. Es hat natürlich Konzentrationslager gegeben, da sind auch schlimme Sachen passiert Es gab sogar vier KZ Kommandant, die von einem SS Gericht belangt worden sind, weil sie nicht entsprechend den Befehlen in den Kommandanturbefehlen sich mit den Inhaftierten befasst haben, sondern weil sie geschlagen haben oder einige sogar erschossen haben und so weiter. Das war aber streng untersagt. Zwei sind hingerichtet worden. Aber jetzt kommt das Entscheidende. Das habe, weiß ich nicht von den Juden, die uns anklagen, das weiß ich von den Revisionisten, das haben die herausgefunden, dass es das gab und dass die SS wirklich strengstens gegen die vorging. Niemand von uns würde sagen, Das hat's nicht gegeben! Im Krieg werden die negativen Eigenschaften in jedem Menschen sind, die ja auch hervorgerufen und befördert. Aber es hat doch nichts damit zu tun, dass ein singuläres, einmaliges, grösstes Verbrechen von den Deutschen begangen worden sei. Das muss man doch im Kontext sehen. Speaker 0: Das heisst, wenn ich Sie richtig verstehe: Die Konzentrationslager hat gegeben. Massenvernichtung nicht. Was ist denn dann in den Lagern passiert? Speaker 1: Die Auschwitz war ganz einfach ein ganz grosses Industriekombinat und die haben da für die Rüstungsindustrie ganz wertvolle Arbeit geleistet. Speaker 0: Das heisst, die Häftlinge, die da drin waren, waren da auch zu Recht drin? Speaker 1: Ja, das hat ja sogar Nolte festgestellt. Wenn sie von der Haagerlandkriegsordnung ausgehen, dann hat jeder Staat im Falle des Krieges das Recht, die Angehörigen seines Gegners, die in seinem Land leben, zu internieren, weil die Gefahr besteht, dass sie Spionage leisten. Das haben alle gemacht. Zum Beispiel mein einer Onkel, gerade in Indien, da waren die Engländer, der wurde dort Der Bruder meiner Mutter war in Amerika, wurde dort Internal. Das haben die alle gemacht. Das haben die Russen auch gemacht, muss man sagen. Speaker 0: Vor dem Hintergrund sagen Sie, dass das, was in Auschwitz passiert ist, richtig war? Speaker 1: Nein, richtig ist Richtig ist eigentlich: Es war gesetzlich nicht angreifbar, sagen wir's mal so. Ich meine, meine Abiturklasse war auch im Einsatz bei der Rüstungsindustrie. Und wir mussten auch Rüstungs Ich hab zum beispiel Munitionskisten gestrichen und so weiter Wir waren ja alle im Kriegseinsatz, vor allem im letzten Jahr. Das war ja kein Sonderfall. Wir hatten alle sehr wenig zu essen und alle kaum was anzuziehen. Vor allem keine Schuhe, keine passenden, weil bei jungen Menschen ja die Füsse wachsen. Die wurden immer vorne abgeschnitten. Speaker 0: Ich würde gerne auf die Standard- und Kommentaturbefehle kommen. Speaker 1: Ja, die sind wirklich umwerfend. Auch für mich waren sie das, als ich die zum ersten Mal dann richtig gelesen habe. Weil diese Einzelheiten, also zum beispiel das mit der Ernährung, das steht ja hier nicht drin, das steht in einem Sonderbefehl. Die haben tatsächlich den empfohlen, was wir mühsam in Kochkursen da oben gemacht haben. Das Gemüse nicht totzukochen, sondern nur die Hälfte richtig weich zu kochen und den anderen Anteil möglichst nur ganz kurz dämpfen zu lassen, weil dann die Vitamine besser erhalten bleiben. Dann haben sie ihnen gesagt, sie müssen draussen Wildkräuter sammeln. Und was, das Roh noch darüber zu tun statt Petersilie sozusagen. Und dass sie eine kräftige Dicke, keine dünne Wassersuppe, sondern eine dicke Suppe machen. Und wenn der Koch das nicht schafft, dann müsste er abgesetzt werden und ein anderer Koch eingesetzt werden. Solche Dinge haben Sie sich gekümmert, Mitten im Krieg. Ist doch unwahrscheinlich. Speaker 0: Welche Erkenntnis ziehen Sie aus diesem Standort und Corona? Speaker 1: Ja, also ich ziehe die Erkenntnis daraus, dass ich hier den letzten noch vielleicht ausstehenden Beweis dafür habe, dass Auschwitz kein Vernichtungslager, sondern ein Arbeitslager war, in dem alle Kräfte, die dort waren, eigentlich unentbehrlich für die Rüstungsindustrie waren. Das wird ja hier ganz deutlich gesagt, nicht? Das heisst, Speaker 0: es hat keine Massenvernichtung in Auschwitz? Speaker 1: Nein, man kann nicht gleichzeitig Fristungsarbeiter haben wollen und sie vernichten. Das geht nicht. Das ist ein Widerspruch in sich. Und noch weniger passt es, wenn man die hinterher fragt Wollt ihr euch befreien lassen oder wollt ihr mit uns ins Reich geht? Dann sagt Nein, wir gehen lieber mit unseren Mördern. Also das ist schizophren. Speaker 0: Was haben Sie gedacht, als Sie das zum ersten Mal gelesen Speaker 1: haben? Da war ich schon ziemlich erstaunt, dass das so deutlich hier herausgekommen ist. Ich hatte bisher Dass es ein Arbeitslager ist. Das haben alte Leute früher immer gesagt. Dann fielen alle über sie her und die hatten alle recht. Das ist das Peinliche. Speaker 0: Davon kann man von Gas sprechen? Speaker 1: Nein, überhaupt nicht. Und bei den Reichsbefehlenden auch nicht. Speaker 0: Wie erklären Sie sich, dass die Gaskammern nicht erwähnt werden? Speaker 1: Falls keine gab, natürlich! Man kann doch nicht erwähnen, was nicht gab. Warum wollen sie denn festhalten an dem Gaskammern, wenn man das liest, was also da beschrieben wird? Vor allen Dingen, ich finde es auch eine Anmassung der Jetzt Lebenden, es besser wissen zu wollen als die, die damals das erlebt haben. Sagen nämlich alle diese alten acht So was haben wir noch nicht gesehen. Aber wir wissen viel besser, wie es da war. Wissen auch viel besser, wie's im Dritten Reich war, als die, die da gelebt haben das ist der Manko und das ist eben die fehlende Selbstkritik der heute Redenden Das ist ja eben das, was eben so erstaunlich ist. Speaker 0: Sie schliessen auch daraus, dass es keine keine Gaskammern erwähnt sind, dass es sie in dem KZ Auschwitz Birken da auch nicht gegeben hat. Speaker 1: Nein, das brauchen Sie doch nicht nur, das haben wir doch früher schon gesagt, das hängt auch damit zusammen, dass man mit Zyklen B das überhaupt nicht machen kann. Das geht nicht! Wir leben in einer naturwissenschaftlichen Zeit. Da müssen wir auf die Fachleute hören. Wenn Rudolf, der Chemiker sagt, das geht nicht und jedes Chemielexikon sagt das auch Und wenn der Leuchter, der einzige Fachmann für Gaskammern, weil es in Amerika noch Staaten gibt, die Menschen damit zu Tode bringen, sich das anguckt, was ihm hier gezeigt wird und sagt: Das ist ja völlig absurd. Man kann einen einzigen, in einem hermetisch abgeschlossenen, hochkomplizierten technischen Gebilde in der und der Zeit dann passt das alles nicht. Und ich bin nicht bereit, den Juristen abzunehmen, dass sie es besser wissen. Und ich nehme an, das werden die anderen Menschen auch nicht, aber deswegen hat man dieses Buch ja auch nicht beworben. Man hat es doch nicht beworben. Speaker 0: Was sind die Punkte, die Sie besonders bewegt haben? Speaker 1: Siebte Februar vierundvierzig, die Heftlingstransporte. Das finde ich sehr erstaunlich. Soll ich das hier vorlesen? Aber ich kann's ja nur zusammenfassen sagen, dass du also befohlen wird, das ist mal der Lagerarzt, sie alle untersuchen muss, bevor sie zum Transport gehen. Dann wie der Transportwagen beschaffen sein muss. Wenn es kalt ist, muss er dick mit Stroh gepolstert werden und es muss ein Ofen drin stehen und es muss vor allen Dingen - das hätten unsere Leute so gerne gehabt - abgekochtes Wasser oder Tee drin sein. Und was ausdrücklich gesagt wird genügend Verpflegung mitnehmen. Die Transporte können durch Bombenangriffe verzögert werden damit nicht Hungersnot eintritt. Unsere Leute kriegten sieben Tage überhaupt nichts zu essen. Naja, also das ist sehr eindrucksvoll und dann ist auch sehr eindrucksvoll hier, wo nochmal aufgezählt wird wie kranke behandelt werden. Es gab ja Speaker 0: - Speaker 1: also das Rote Kreuz - ich meine es war das Rote Kreuz - wir haben ja auch immer in Auschwitz inspiziert und die haben ja eine sehr moderne Klinik da festgestellt. Und die Kranken wurde sich sehr bekümmert, damit sie möglichst schnell wieder gesund wurden. Und auch von der Diät, dass sie die Diät den dann aber natürlich nur innerhalb dieses Krankentraktes zu geben hätten. Und dass der Zustand der Bekleidung laufend überwacht werden muss - besonders das Schuhzeug. Das stimmt. Und dann eben könnten fleissige Häftlinge auch Erleichterungen, die haben sogar Rekordzuschläge bekommen oder es könnte so ihre fleissige Tätigkeit belohnt werden dass sie früher entlassen wurden. Gab's auch. Da steht hier alles drin. Speaker 0: Glauben Sie, das ist auch passiert? Speaker 1: Das nehme ich an. Ob das nachher noch in letzter Welches Jahr ist das hier? Ab vierundvierzig im Februar, ob das nach Ende vierundvierzig möglich war, bezweifel ich. Speaker 0: In der Fussnote steht zu diesem Punkt, dass kein Häftling erlangte wegen fleissigen Arbeitens die Freiheit trotz wiederholter Anweisungen des SS Wirtschafts- und Verwaltungshauptamts bietet der Gedanke der Verwahrung und Bestrafung der Konzentrationslager Insassen Vorrang vor der Effizienz des Arbeitseinsatzes. Ja aber Speaker 1: woher will der betreffende Kommentator das merken? Ich habe den Eindruck das erinnert an das Vorwort, was auch völlig an der Sache vorbeigeht. Also da würde ich sofort fragen woher weisst du das denn? Wenn der Befehl das Gegenteil sagt wieso kannst du heute lebender Mensch einfach das Gegenteil behaupten da muss er mir das beweisen, bitte. Wir sind zu gut gläubig. Wir glauben alles, was die heute sagen. Wenn jemand sagt: 'Das und das habe ich erlebt', dann kann ich nicht einfach behaupten das Gegenteil. Da muss ich es nachweisen. Also vor allen Dingen Sie kennen doch diese ganzen Otto Utt genannt und Enrique Marco und wie die Leute heissen, die wir uns alle angelogen haben. Am Anfang mussten sie eine zwei Stunden Mittagspause einhalten und siebzehn Uhr schon Abendpause machen. Und in der Pause musste der Einsatzleiter dafür sorgen, dass sie nicht irgendwelche zusätzlichen Aufträge dann bekamen. Also das, weil man sich erst mal die Nahrung besser ausnutzt, wenn man danach ruht und zum anderen wird man nur dann arbeitsfähig. Diese Schlafanweisung dert mich sehr überrascht muss ich sagen. Speaker 0: Was schliessen sie daraus? Speaker 1: Die wollten gute Arbeiter haben. Komischerweise wird auch gesagt, dass die Juden sehr gute Urmacher darunter gab, die dann an Spezialstädten geschickt wurden. Ich wusste, habe ich auch nicht gewusst, dass die Juden besonders gute Urmacher waren. Naja, also was Merkwürdiges liest man hier, oder Erstaunliches. Fussappelle der Häftlinge, ja, an jedem Auslager. Dreimal bei den Häftlingen Fussappell abzuhalten, sich von Fussverletzungen und Sauberkeit der Häftlinge zu überzeugen. Ja sie legten eben, Aber wegen dieser schrecklichen Typus Epidemie legten sie auch ungeheuer viel Werte auf die Hygiene legen. Deswegen musste das eben eingehalten werden. Die Haare wurden nicht nur bei den Inhaftierten, sondern auch bei den SS Leuten abgeschoren, weil die Läuse sich da am meisten reinsetzen. Sie wurden dieser Typhus Epidemie gar nicht richtig her. Und ich habe War das hier drin? Irgendwo habe ich gelesen, da sagen Sie, die wären von aussen in das Lager eingeschleppt worden Die Inhaftierten hätten keine Läuse gehabt Das kann ich natürlich nicht nachprüfen, nur übernehmen. Zusätzlich zu den bisher genannten ist bemerkenswert, wo es hier heißt unter der Überschrift Heftlings, Bei dieser Gelegenheit mache ich nochmals ausdrücklich auf den bestehenden Befehl aufmerksam, dass kein SS Mann Hand an einen Häftling legen darf. Im fünften Kriegsjahr ist alles daran zu setzen, die Arbeitskraft der Häftlinge zu erhalten. Vergeht sich ein Häftling, so ist Meldung zu erstatten. Also das darf der nicht selber machen. Deswegen sagte ich ja vorhin - da möchte ich nochmal darauf hinweisen dass auch strenge Bestrafungen der SS Leute, die sich an solche Befehle nicht hielten, erfolgten. Speaker 0: Und man kann Was ziehen Sie da für einen Schluss raus? Vor dem Hintergrund, dass im KZ Auschwitz Birkenau die Menschen misshandelt worden sind, man sie umgebracht hat? Speaker 1: Wahrscheinlich das Gleiche wie die Engländer und Amerikaner gemacht haben. Als sie nach Deutschland kamen haben sie ein Flugblatt verteilt schreckliche Gräuel den Soldaten mitzuteilen die die Deutschen gemacht haben sollten weil die Soldaten so entsetzt waren über diese zerstörten deutschen Städte. Den verständlich zu machen, dass das rechstens war, verteilten sie da diese Flugblätter mit den schlimmsten Gräueltaten die sie aber gar nicht bei den Deutschen gefunden hatten. Die haben sich ausgedacht. Das hat der Selfdendelmer auch gesagt. Und äh hier ist das genauso! Alles wird verdreht und ins Gegenteil verkehrt. Und Leider muss man ja sagen, dass sehr vieles, was die deutschen Kriegsgefangenen auf den Rheinwiesen oder in dem Gulag in Russland erlebt haben, das haben sie uns angelastet. Und das haben die Russen ja auch gesagt. Das war ja die bolschewistisch wirklich verseuchte Armee, Vergewaltigung der Frauen geradezu empfohlen hat. Bei uns stand darauf Todesstrafe. Wir hatten zwei gute Freunde, einer von meinem Mann und einem von meinem Vater, die in ihren Kompanien nachgewiesen, einen Mann hatten, der eine Polen oder Russin vergewaltigt hatte. Die mussten sie dem Kriegsgericht überantworten, obwohl sie eigentlich jeden Mann im Krieg brauchten, dass der hingerichtet würde. Und das hat sie ihr Leben lang belastet. Aber so streng war das eben. Speaker 0: Warum haben diese Standortbefehle in Ihren Augen eine höchste unabhängige Glaubwürdigkeit? Speaker 1: Weil die original sind. Und weil sie sich auch decken mit den durch die Enigma entschlschlüsselten Reichsbefehlen. Das ist also kein Sonderfall. Das ergänzt sich gegenseitig. Es ergänzt sich auch mit den Erzählungen derer, die das alles erlebt haben. Insofern ist das die letzte Bestätigung, die noch gefehlt hat. Speaker 0: Wenn das so umwerfende Dokumente sind, warum hat sich das nicht herumgesprochen? Speaker 1: Das können Sie sich selber beantworten: Weil man es nicht wünscht. Speaker 0: Das ist Speaker 1: jene, die diese ganzen Sachen veranlasst haben. Speaker 0: Warum hat man es dann veröffentlicht? Speaker 1: Man fühlt Das ist es eben. Das habe ich ja vorhin schon gesagt. Es gibt überall solche und solche. Es gibt auch in diesen Instituten, der sagte, im ganzen Alltag gab es keine Vergasung. Authentisch vom Institut für Zeitgeschichte, Nachdem man vorher auch, jahrzehntelang gesagt hatte, die gab es überall. Man versucht, das, was man Negatives gemacht hat, auf den anderen, den man besichtigt hat, zu schieben und der Sieger schreibt immer die Geschichte, und dies hat man. Dann waren doch Leute, die sagen, wir müssen das veröffentlichen. Wir können das als Institut für Zeitgeschichte nicht unter Verschluss halten. Aber es wird eben nicht besprochen. Du hast das seit zehn Jahren irgendwo gedämmert. Speaker 0: Könnte es sein, dass die Verantwortlichen, die auch diese Befehle geschrieben haben, bewusst den Aspekt der Vernichtung der Lagerinsassen ausgespart haben, keine Beweise für die Nachwelt – Speaker 1: Das ist völlig irre, mitten im Krieg Speaker 0: aufzubringen zu bringen. Speaker 1: Völlig völlig irre diese Frage. Wo ich mitten im Krieg, die darum kämpften, überhaupt zu überleben und die Arbeitsein auch zu erzielen, die man ihnen abverlangte, haben sie bestimmt nicht fünf Minuten für so was Zeit gehabt. Es war unvorstellbar, so was. Man dachte doch immer noch, man sieht. Man hat doch erst sehr spät angefangen, das zu bezweifeln. Speaker 0: Das Buch ist ja schon seit einiger Zeit öffentlich. Speaker 1: Es ist zweitausend herausgegeben. Aber es ist erst zweitausenddreizehn in das Bewusstsein einiger Historiker gelangt. Bis dann war es tot. Speaker 0: Warum? Speaker 1: Tja, weil man es verschlossen hat. Speaker 0: Eigentlich hätte ja Norbert Frei als Herausgeber sagen müssen: Die Geschichte muss umgeschrieben werden. Speaker 1: Das sagen Sie. Sie hätten sagen müssen. Aber Sie wissen doch, dass alle Deutschen Angst haben. Ich würde ihm sogar recht geben und sagen, da waren noch nicht die ganzen Prozesse geführt. Da waren noch nicht so viele Sachen ans Tageslicht gekommen, so viele Widersprüche zweitausend wie heute. Insofern ist die Rücksichtnahme auf die eigene Karriere und das eigene Schicksal damals wirklich sehr viel gravierender gewesen als heute. Heute kann man mehr sagen, weil inzwischen mehr Widersprüche offenkundig sind. Das war damals noch nicht möglich Es würde ich ein frei zubilligen, dass alle fünf hier gesagt haben: Wir lassen das verschwinden, wir besprechen das nicht. Wir müssen das machen, weil wir Historiker sind und das Institut für Zeitgeschichte solche Aufgaben hat. Aber wir versuchen es nicht zu veröffentlichen und es hat ja auch keiner besprochen. Speaker 0: Haben Sie jemand mit Professor Frey als Herausnehmer? Speaker 1: Nein, den kenne ich. Ich habe nur mit Leuten zu tun haben. Komm schon ein Speaker 0: paar Naturbefehle gesprochen? Speaker 1: Nein. Speaker 0: Warum nicht? Speaker 1: Den bin ich noch nie gekommen. Weil ich den auch gar nicht kenne. Ich habe mit Post gesprochen und mit Schal. Speaker 0: Wenn Sie das als letztes Puzzle für die Existenz des Holocaust. Dann könnte man ja mal nachfragen, warum Speaker 1: er das gemacht hat und Speaker 0: ob seine Interpretation genauso ist wie die Jährige. Speaker 1: Wenn er mutig ist, würde sie so sein. Er wird versuchen, das abzubiegen, wie in der Einleitung. Das ist ganz eindeutig. Speaker 0: Worauf läuft die Einleitung hinaus? Speaker 1: Die Einleitung, die versucht krampfhaft, aber es ist eben wirklich sehr krampfhaft und sehr offenkundig, dass es falsch ist. Doch noch irgendwo etwas zu finden, dass da jemand vergast - sagen Sie, glaube ich nicht - ermordet worden wäre. Ein grösseres Kontingent. Aber das ist nicht stichhaltig, was da in der Einleitung steht. Das kann man schnell widerlegen. Speaker 0: Was, glauben Sie, wird er bestätigen, dass man anhand der Standard- und Kommentaturbefehle den Holocaust in der bisher bekannten Form infrage stellen kann? Speaker 1: Kann ich nichts zu sagen. Ich kenne ihn ja nicht. Ich weiss nicht, wie mutig der Mensch ist. Kann ich nicht sagen. Speaker 0: Möglicherweise muss man die Befehle im Kontext sehen. Die beziehen sich auf einzelne Bereiche. Im Konzentrationslager, das sind Teillager, die da beschrieben worden sind, gerade bei den Aspekten, die sie gerade genannt haben. Speaker 1: Das Ganze war doch ein riesiges Rüstungskombinat. Da waren doch ganz viele Rüstungsbetriebe. Es wurde auch mal in einem Fernsehen ein Film gezeigt von einer Frau, die da als Sekretärin gearbeitet hat. Die hat natürlich auch gesagt: So was habe ich nie gesehen. Ich musste die Liste für die Bordelle führen. Es wird immer von denen, die da waren, etwas ganz anderes gesagt und wir versuchen nun das in Einklang zu bringen mit dem, was wir fünfzig Jahre lang in der Schule gelernt haben. Das ist unser Problem, und das ist natürlich sehr schwer. Vor allem da muss man sagen, Lehrer und Eltern haben mich belogen. Das ist bitter. Das ist bitter. Speaker 0: Was bedeutet das denn für die Geschichte? Die Juden Vernichtung war ja im Grunde genommen, wie wir es gelernt haben, ein Teil der Ideologie des Nationalsozialismus. Was bedeutet das für die Geschichte, wenn die Massenvernichtung der Juden gar nicht stattgefunden hat? Speaker 1: Da gibt es inzwischen wirklich genügend Untersuchungen. Es ging nicht die Vernichtung, es ging die Ausgliederung aus Deutschland und zwar aufgrund der Erfahrungen mit zwei Weltkriegen, wo Hitler wusste ganz genau, dass das schon seit dem neunzehnte Jahrhundert festgelegt war, Deutschland kaputt zu machen. Und wir kannten doch diese Aussagen von Morgentau und Niser und wie die alle hießen. Also, das besagt letzten Endes Hitler wollte Deutschland frei haben von dieser von dieser Jüdigkeit Sie haben ja auch gesagt: Wer Juden ist, bestimme ich. Also wenn die zum Christentum übergetreten waren oder wenn die - waren ja sehr viele sehr beliebte und angesehene Kinderärzte, sogar im Militär - der Milch war ja auch Halb Jude und blieb ja trotzdem im Militär. Also Vernichten stimmt nicht. Aussiedeln stimmt. Das wollten aber die Zionisten selber. Insofern haben die ihm zusammengearbeitet. Die Zionisten wollten einen Staat haben. Eintausendachthundertsiebenundneunzig war der grosse jüdische Kongress, wo dann der Herzl das vorgestellt hat. Deswegen haben die dann zusammen gearbeitet. Die hatten das gleiche Ziel. Die einen wollten den Staaten, die wollten vor allem die Juden haben, weil das die klügsten waren. Die Bankiers, das heisst, die ganz reichen Bankiers wollten sie nicht haben, sagt Herzel. Aber die waren Techniker, Ingenieure und so weiter und die wollten sie haben. Und Hitler wollte sie loswerden, Also passte das ganz gut zusammen. Aber das heisst nicht, sie zu vernichten. Speaker 0: Wenn Sie sagen, die Massenvernichtung hat es so nicht gegeben, dann hat es dieses Verbrechen ja auch nicht gegeben. Speaker 1: Nur Verbrechen. Sonst hätte ich ja nicht gesagt, das ist vier Lagerleiter. Es hat immer auch Verbrechen gegeben. Aber das war nicht das Ziel. Speaker 0: Das heisst aber, Hitler war jetzt nicht der größte Verbrecher der Geschichte? Das Speaker 1: wird sich auch schon nachher ausstellen, dass das nicht stimmt. Speaker 0: Hitler war kein Verbrecher. Speaker 1: Jetzt ist Putin ja der größte Verbrecher. Speaker 0: Aber Hitler war damals kein Verbrecher. Speaker 1: Ich würde überhaupt wissen, dass ich Festnagelungen ich sehr vorsichtig sein. Speaker 0: Naja wenn Sie sagen, dass die Macht Es Speaker 1: gab keinen Befehl zur Vernichtung! Aber Hitler wird ja nicht nur das vorgeworfen, der hat so ja noch sehr viel anderes oder hat auch noch sicher sehr viel anderes gemacht. Aber einen Menschen, einen Verbrecher zu nennen, das widerstrebt mir. Weil ich weiss, in jedem Menschen ist ein göttlicher Fanke und der muss angesprochen werden. Und wenn ich ihn festnagele du bist ein Verbrecher dann kann der nur erstickt werden, der Göttliche. Das würde ich nie machen. Das würde ich von keinem Menschen sagen. Speaker 0: Muss die Figur Hitler da auch neu betrachtet werden? Speaker 1: Also dazu kann ich vor allen Dingen etwas sagen: Die Betrachtungsweise, die wir gegenwärtig haben, steht schon im völligen Widerspruch zu der Wir sind noch von einem Fest, Joachimfest, von einem Maser und so weiter in ihren dicken Büchern in den siebziger- oder sechziger Jahren, sechziger Jahren gegeben worden ist fest sagt Hitler war für zehn Jahre das Bewegungszentrum der Welt. Ist ja nicht gerade negativ. Und wenn Sie den Lloyd George und die Engländer lesen die hier zum Teil heimlich nach Deutschland kamen festzustellen: Was passierte denn hier eigentlich? Die haben unwahrscheinlich positiv über Hitler gesprochen. Das haben sie auch veröffentlicht - Tanzgrün zum Beispiel. So wie er heute dargestellt wird, mit grösserem Abstand von dieser Zeit, wird alles immer negativer für die Deutschen und wissen Sie warum? Weil die Angst haben, dass wieder ein Wechsel kommen könnte und dass man die Lüge enttarnt. Das ist der einzige Grund. Warum machen Sie jetzt mit Sogar die Anne Frank wird jetzt wieder aus dem Schuhfach geholt, obwohl das nun wirklich nachgewiesen ist in allen möglichen Prozessen, dass das eine Fälschung ist, nicht? Speaker 0: Sie sagen, Hitler war kein Verbrecher. Speaker 1: Ich würde, ich habe ihn doch gerade gesagt, ich würde von keinem Menschen sagen. Er ist ein Verbrecher. Der Mensch hat die unterschiedlichsten Möglichkeiten, sich zu entfalten, und wenn ich die Äusserung lese aus der Zeit, dann war er eine große Bedeutung für die Weltgeschichte. Da kommen wir zu der vierten Ebene in der Geschichtsbetrachtung. Warum erscheinen solche Menschen? Hitta hat immer von der Vorsehung gesprochen, der er sich sozusagen verantwortlich fühlte. Und er fühlte sich beauftragt. Und das können Sie doch nicht als Verbrecher bezeichnen. Haben Sie in der Schule nicht noch anderes gelernt, was Hitler an schlimmen Sachen gemacht hat, nur die Juden? Speaker 0: Er hat auch viele andere rumgebracht. Speaker 1: Man lernt man. Er Speaker 0: ist ja quasi verantwortlich gewesen. Speaker 1: Das wird auch den Kindern beigebracht. Speaker 0: Aber das ist so nicht? Speaker 1: Nein, natürlich nicht. Das ist aber ziemlich deutlich. Wir brauchen nicht noch mal so lange zu warten wie bei dem Klage, von den Schlafwandlern nicht und dass die Deutschen den Ersten Weltkrieg nicht zu verantworten haben. Das werden sie schneller rausfinden dass sie den zweiten auch nicht zu verantworten haben. Da werden sie nicht nochmal so lange brauchen. Das ist ab jetzt schon bei vielen Sogar der wie heisst er? Den Haffner sagt Sebastian Happ der Zweite Weltkrieg hat in Versailles angefangen Versailles ist die Ursache des Zweiten Weltkrieg oder nicht Hitler. Jeder Mensch ist wechselnd. Hitler hat sehr viel Positives gemacht was sehr viel bedeutende Leute anerkannt haben. Lesen Sie mal die Biografie von Fest und von Masern Es wird ihm sehr viel untergeschoben, was er nicht gemacht hat. Aber er ist ein Mensch Speaker 0: mit Zum Beispiel die Massenvernichtung. Speaker 1: Ein Mensch mit Höhen und Tiefen und so weiter Und mein Mann hat immer gesagt - er hat ihn ja persönlich kennengelernt - wurde immer gedrängt: Schreiben Sie doch eine Biografie über Hitler. Oder ein Buch über Hitler. Und hat er immer gesagt: Das ist eine so schwierige Persönlichkeit. Über die meiste Literatur, die Persönlichkeit, über die es die meisten Biografien etc. Gibt, die müsste ich dann ja alle lesen. Das überlasse ich Nachkommen in einhundert Jahren. Jetzt können wir immer nur was Falsches sagen. Das würde ich auch beanspruchen. Speaker 0: Wenn Sie den Holocaust siebzig Jahre danach infrage stellen: Ist das nicht ein Schlag ins Gesicht der Angehörigen, der Opfer und vor allem der Überlebenden? Speaker 1: Der Schlag ins Gesicht der Menschen sind diejenigen, die Bücher geschrieben haben, die durch die Schulen getingelt sind und erzählt haben von ihren Leiden in ohne jemals dort gewesen zu sein. Das gilt anscheinend auch noch für Eli will. Da arbeiten Sie jetzt dran seine Biografie aufzuarbeiten. Speaker 0: Das bin ich. Speaker 1: Wie bitte? Speaker 0: Waren Sie meinen? Nein, ich Speaker 1: war ja noch zu jung, war es siebzehn. Speaker 0: Aber auch Sie sagen natürlich. Speaker 1: Nein, aber gucken Sie mal. Die Speaker 0: Konzentrationslager hat es in der bekannten Form nicht gegeben. Speaker 1: Ich sage, Konzentrationslager hat sich gegeben. Da sind auch Schäusslichkeiten passiert. Aber die kommen Jedenfalls geht es ja vor allem immer Auschwitz. Das ist ja das Symbol. Speaker 0: Aber das war ein Arbeitslager. Speaker 1: Das war ein Arbeitslager und das bestätigen die Kommandant Tourbefehle und dass keine sechs Millionen umgebracht worden sind. Das bestätigt schon der Abnahme der Tafel von Auschwitz. Und das bestätigt vor allen Dingen mein ohne Ergebnis verlaufender Versuch, das herauszufinden. Wirklich, also ich habe ja alle gefragt. Kein einziger konnte mir sagen, wo die sechs Millionen umgebracht sind. Und dann muss man doch den Mut haben zu sagen, es war eine Lüge. Oder man muss eben sagen: da und da. Entweder oder. Aber das ist Aufgabe der anderen, nicht meine Aufgabe. Ich kann nur die Frage deutlich machen. Speaker 0: Gleichzeitig ist gerade in diesen Tagen, wo der siebzigste Jahrestag Speaker 1: das Krieg wieder überall davon. Speaker 0: Das ist natürlich kein grosses Thema. Es gibt viele Überlebende, die es an sich zur Aufgabe gemacht haben, an den Holocaust zu erinnern. Oder auch zu sagen: Hier, vergesst nicht, was da Schlimmes passiert ist. Aber wenn Sie sagen: Den Holocaust hat es in der Form gar nicht gegeben. Ist das nicht eine Ohrfeige für diese Menschen? Speaker 1: Nein, die Ohrfeige können Sie auch da sehen. Es wird siebzig Jahre nicht nur nach dem Ende des Krieges, nicht nur nach der Befreiung von Auschwitz, sondern der Vertreibung von fünfzehn Millionen Deutschen aus ihrer angestammten Heimat. Mit der nachgewiesenen Ermordung von zwei Komma fünf Millionen Wahrscheinlich aber noch viel mehr. Das wird mit keinem Wort erwähnt. Das ist doch eigentlich könnte ich sagen und die Frage stellen: Wieso das da nicht? Wieso nur das? Speaker 0: Diese Bilder von den Leichenbergen im KZ Auschwitz Speaker 1: Ja, in Auschwitz kann es dir nicht gegeben haben. Die Leute sind ja mit denen weggezogen der Mehrheit. Die anderen haben sich befreien lassen. Wenn sie die Bilder sehen, die sehen doch ganz normal aus. Speaker 0: Warum haben Sie diese Bilder? Ach, Speaker 1: kennen Sie nicht die Leichenberge von unseren zerstörten Städten? Von Hamburg, von Pforzheim, von Hildesheim, von Dresden? Speaker 0: Haben Sie wohl da hingebracht? Braucht man Speaker 1: doch gar nicht dahinzubringen. Man nimmt die Leichenberge auf und Sie kennen doch das Zusammenstückeln von Bildern. Das ist doch gar keine Kunst. Ein junger Mann hat sich überall gefunden. In Dresden, in Dahl, in Dahl es war immer derselbe Junge. Das wissen wir alles. Man muss es nur lesen. Die Leichenberge von Bergen Belsen, die sind auch sicher echt. Aber warum sind die entstanden? Die haben doch nichts mit dem Konzert, sondern haben damit etwas zu tun, dass alle Zuwege zerbombt waren, dass die keine Lebensmittel, keine Medikamente und nichts mehr bekamen Der Direktor von diesem Lager ist verzweifelt zu den Bauern gegangen, aber die hatten ja alle selbst kaum noch was zu essen. Immerhin fünfundvierzig war das im Mai. Dann sind die Engländer gekommen und haben riesige Mengen an OelSardinen zur Verfügung gestellt. Ich weiss das so genau, Ein guter Freund von uns hat einen Schwager, der dabei war und der das erzählt. Das vertruggen, diese ausgemergelten Menschen, die sind da alle an Ruhe und sonst was eingegangen. Dann lagen die da. Es war auch keiner mehr da, der sie beisetzen konnte. Aber das kann man nicht als Ergebnis von den Deutschen sagen. Das hat damit gar nichts zu tun. Das ist, wissen Sie, diese Lügerei, das können wir uns nicht vorstellen, ich auch. Fällt mir ungeheuer schwer, mir vorzustellen, dass ein Mensch so lügen kann. Wie man uns belogen hat. Aber man hat uns so belogen! Speaker 0: Diese ganzen ausgemergelten Menschen, die Bilder von den Ausgewerkmärkten Speaker 1: Die haben andere Gründe! Speaker 0: Die Leichenwerke in Dachau, in Buchenwald, in Theresienstadt, in Auschwitz. Die waren Wo kommt die denn her? Speaker 1: Ich habe ihnen doch gesagt, wo die herkommen. Ausserdem am Ende des Krieges waren wir doch alle - meine Mutter wuchs noch neunzig Pfund. Wir waren doch alle so ausgemergelt! Speaker 0: Das heisst, diese Bilder von den armen Menschen waren kein Ergebnis dessen, was die Deutschen ihnen im Lager angerichtet haben? Speaker 1: Die waren nicht das Ergebnis - oder in jedem Fall nicht das Ziel - aber die waren das Ergebnis des Krieges. Schauen Sie, wenn Sie überhaupt keine Strichchen Verkehrsstruktur mehr haben, wenn alles kaputt ist. Die Brücken waren kaputt. Man konnte ja fast überhaupt nicht fahren. Beim Fahrrad konnte man noch fahren. Dann konnten die auch nicht mehr versorgt werden. Natürlich nicht. Speaker 0: Nichtsdestotrotz sind Sie doch schon das Ergebnis dessen, wie die Deutschen sie in den Lagern behandelt haben? Speaker 1: Nein, sie sind ein Ergebnis, wie die Feinde Deutschland behandelt haben, wie sie Deutschland völlig zerbombt haben. Das können sich die Leute heute ja auch nicht vorstellen. Speaker 0: Glauben Sie, dass wir die Mehrheit der Deutschen davon überzeugen können, dass der Holocaust in der Form nicht stattgefunden hat, dass es ihn nicht gegeben hat? Speaker 1: Die Mehrheit der denkenden Deutschen hat so viele Widersprüche erlebt, dass sie zumindest sehr zweifelt Und sehr viele, auch gerade Handwerker und so weiter weil die bodenständige Menschen sind die sagen, das kann so gar nicht stimmen. Das nehme ich an. Das kann Speaker 0: nicht stimmen? Speaker 1: Mit diesem Vergastkammern und so weiter All diese technischen Sachen verstehen die Handwerker besser als wir. Und die sagen, das kann so gar nicht stimmen. Und dann im Krieg - wir haben das doch erlebt, was wir alles nicht hatten Wie viele Menschen müssten sie denn denn abgestellt haben, das zu betreiben? Das geht doch gar nicht. Na ja gut, aber ob die Menschen alle dahin kommen ich fürchte ja. Das wird nämlich nicht gerade sehr angenehm werden für die Menschen. Speaker 0: Warum ist es Ihrer Auffassung wichtig, der nächsten Generation Zweifel an der Historizität des Holocaust weiterzugeben? Mitzugehen? Speaker 1: Ja, die müssen uns sonst bis in alle Ewigkeit darunter leiden, tun sie ja, wird Ihnen ja auch gesagt. Dieser Schuldkomplex wird so tief verwurzelt und vor allem auch die Forderung. Noch U-Boote schenken, noch das schenken, noch das machen und so weiter Das wird alles begründet mit Wir - mit unserer Vergangenheit. Das haben Sie ja sicher auch schon gehört. Und vor allen Dingen wissen Sie das Allerschlimmste ist: Die Juden wollen das selber nicht. Die machen uns jetzt den Vorwurf, dass wir so was machen. Lesen Sie mal diesen offenen Brief von dem Meyer Margarid nach dem Besuch der Kanzlerin und ihrer Rede in der Knesse, die er selber gehört hat dann müssen wir noch mehr an uns selber verzweifeln. Die werfen uns das jetzt vor, dass wir das machen. Ich kann mir das nicht vorstellen, dass denkende Menschen das noch lange mitmachen. Speaker 0: Welche Veranstaltungen machen Sie so? Die Idee? Wo treten Sie auf? Wie versuchen Sie das an die Jugendweite zu machen? Speaker 1: Ich mache überhaupt nichts von mir aus. Ich werde gefragt zu allen möglichen Themen, nicht nur dazu. Speaker 0: Und wer kommt da so? Was sind das für Leute? Speaker 1: Ganz unterschiedlich. Alte und Junge gemischt, aber sehr viel auch Junge. Die Jungen wollen aber am immer hören, was sie am Anfang nicht gefragt haben vom Dritten Reich. Das interessiert die am meisten. Speaker 0: Sind das dann vor allen Dingen NPD Mitglieder? Das glaube ich nicht. Speaker 1: Nein, nein. Das würde ich nicht sagen. Die NPD ist ja bei den Jungen nicht sehr angesehen. Habe ich den Eindruck jedenfalls. Aber vielleicht finde ich das an denen, kann ich nicht generell sagen. Aber jedenfalls die, die mich einladen, würde ich sagen nein. Sind nicht hauptsächlich NPD. Sind eher kritisch. Die wollen aber deutsch sein. Auch Deutschland ist ja heute faschistisch. Das ist das Problem. Es musste wahrscheinlich - aber da bin ich noch nicht am Ende in meinem Denken - warum dieses Geschehen diese Gegensatz Juden und Deutsche so stark? Und warum dieser Hass der Juden? Warum musste das geschehen? Das ist mir völlig unklar. Aber vielleicht schaffe ich das noch. Speaker 0: Wie Hass der Juden auf die Deutschen? Speaker 1: Ja. Ich habe noch nie von einem anderen Volk so hasserfüllte Äusserungen über ein drittes Volk gelesen wie bei den Juden. Warum? Speaker 0: Der grösser war als der Hass der Deutschen auf die Juden? Speaker 1: Ja, der ist viel später der Hass der Deutschen. Die Juden sind wie früher. Sie brauchen ja nur den Thalmer zu lesen. Da habe ich alle zwölf Bände in der autorisierten letzten Übersetzung und Ausgabe zweitausendzweite Wir haben uns nämlich angeschafft mit Frau Mahler, weil wir die kursierenden Aussagen aus dem Talmut prüfen wollten, ob die stimmen. Und vor allem mit einer autorisierten Ausgabe. Ich kann das nicht mehr als drei Seiten lesen, dann wird mir übel. So widerlich ist das. Was da auch über Sexualität und so weiter alles drinsteht Dass man das schon mit einem dreijährigen Kind machen kann. Das ist uns fremd. Da will ich mich auch nicht reindenken. Speaker 0: Als letzte Frage möchte ich Sie Fragen, wo Sie Herrn Mahler erwähnt haben. Die Dinge, die Sie sagen, an die Sie glauben, sprich, insbesondere die Tatsache, dass der Holocaust nicht stattgefunden hat, wie Sie sagen Könnte sie ins Gefängnis bringen. Speaker 1: Ja bitte. Dann muss ich das in Kauf schlagen, wenn die Leute ihre Meinung Das wissen Sie, ich bin alt. Ich habe ein langes Leben, ein schönes Leben, wie ich Ihnen erzählt habe. Das ist der Preis, den man dafür bezahlen muss. Ich denke immer an Schiller, Walsteins Lager, wo Kameraden aufs Pferd ausfährt, und das endet und setzet ihr nicht das Leben ein. Nie wird euch das Leben gewonnen sein. Ganz einfach. Das muss die Wiese sein. Man muss auch bereit sein. Das hat Nero übrigens auch zu den Kurden gesagt Wenn man bereit ist, den Preis für die Freiheit zu zahlen dann kann man kein Volk unfrei halten! Es geht den Preis, den man bereit ist zu zahlen.

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This German woman did 10 months prison at age 87 for denying The Holocaust. She got sent to prison again at age 93 for 12 months for still denying it. This is absolutely disgusting, especially when you find out how much they’ve lied. https://t.co/81oVO2QTq6

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In this video, there is a questioning of the widely accepted belief that 6 million Jews were killed in gas chambers during the Holocaust. It presents the perspective of a growing movement of scientists, historians, and journalists who have investigated the gas chamber claims and found them to be false. The video points out inconsistencies in the official Holocaust story, such as the presence of hospitals and kitchens in extermination camps, and the use of shower rooms that were never used as gas chambers. It also highlights the revision of death tolls in certain camps over time, while the overall figure of 6 million remains unchanged. The video argues that Holocaust revisionism is necessary to uncover the truth. Additionally, it questions the portrayal of the Holocaust as a deliberate extermination program, suggesting that the conditions in the camps were a result of Germany's collapse, bombings, and shootings by the British. The video presents footage as evidence of Allied propaganda and manipulation, and emphasizes the role of diseases like typhus in causing mass casualties. It argues that the images of emaciated bodies and overcrowded camps are not proof of a systematic genocide, but rather a consequence of the war.
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Speaker 0: It's something we were taught to believe in our entire lives. 6,000,000 Jews were murdered by the Nazis, mostly in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. Speaker 1: 11,000,000 people died in Nazi Germany's death camps. 6,000,000 were Jews. Speaker 2: An estimated 6,000,000 Jews were killed during World War 2. Speaker 3: Hitler murdered 6,000,000 Jewish people. Speaker 4: 6,000,000 Jews. 6 million Speaker 5: died. Speaker 0: The holocaust is the term used to spread the belief that 6,000,000 Jews were murdered by the Germans during World War 2. Of these 6,000,000, approximately 3,000,000 are claimed to have been gassed in makeshift gas chambers, deceptively disguised as shower rooms. However, a growing movement of scientists, engineers, historians, and journalists have investigated the gas chamber claims and found the gas chamber shower room story to be false. They refer to themselves as revisionists revising what they deduce to be a grossly distorted version of history. All Holocaust revisionists started out just like you. Revisionists were exposed to the same propaganda and believed the popular narrative. Speaker 2: Propaganda has absolutely nothing to do with the truth. Speaker 6: When I came in here, I didn't I didn't really know a lot about it. So it just feel good to be part of something big and learn more about the Holocaust. Speaker 0: But upon looking into the official Holocaust story, skeptical questions came into their minds. If the Germans wanted to kill all of the Jews, how did any survive? If the purpose was to kill them, then how come they didn't kill them all on the 1st day? Why were there hospitals in an extermination camp? If it's a death camp, why did they feed them at all? Why are there kitchens? Why does the Auschwitz gas chamber have a wooden door with a glass window and door handle? If the Germans wanted to exterminate the Jews, why did they even bring them to camps? Why didn't they just kill them where they found them? Where are all the bodies? How did they know it was exactly 6,000,000? Speaker 1: This is the brown spot, the shower bath. Inside the shower bath, the gas vents. On the ceiling, the dummy shower heads. See the handprints of those who tried to escape the plane? Their eyes blindfolded with heavy bandages. Speaker 4: On a table for all to gaze upon is a lampshade made of human skin, made at the request of an SS officer's wife. Large pieces of skin have been used for painting pictures. Many of an obscene nature. There are 2 heads which have been shrunk to 1 fifth their normal size. These and other exhibits of Nazi origin are shown to the townspeople. Speaker 7: You said you went into what you thought was a shower room, but, actually, it was a gas chamber. Speaker 8: You think it's a shower? The shower heads. But you know that it's not water coming out of the gas. Speaker 9: The water came down, you said to the gas. Speaker 3: Does Speaker 8: the gas works better when your body is wet? Speaker 0: There are numerous reasons to question the Holocaust, the 6,000,000 dead figure, and the story of gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. The original Soviet Union mandated Auschwitz death toll inscribed on a plaque on display for decades was etched into stone as 4,000,000. Around the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Auschwitz death toll was reduced. Current plaques claim about 1,500,000 dead. The official Majdanek concentration camp death toll has precipitously dropped from 2,000,000 to 78,000. Despite these drastic reductions in the original propaganda death tolls, the 6,000,000 figure incredibly remains unchanged. Wilde claims about 6,000,000 Jews facing imminent extermination were floated decades before World War 2. Originally, just about every major labor and concentration camp was rumored to have had homicidal gas chambers. And almost every major camp was originally labeled a death camp. However, these claims were investigated by the Western allies and found to be untrue. The current holocaust story has evolved. Today, we're told that all of the alleged extermination camps were located in areas of Poland conquered by the Soviet Union. The Soviets claimed enormous death tolls and refused to allow standard, impartial international investigations. Many of the Soviet Union's claims have since been proven to be unfounded propaganda. At Buchenwald, the US Army's psychological warfare division set up a table with shrunken human heads and a lampshade, German civilians were told, was made out of the skin of prisoners. What else were we lied to about? The tall tale about prisoners being turned into bars of soap has been proven to be a myth. Testimony of several high profile former prisoners has been proven to be embellished or completely made up. Speaker 10: Why did you do it? Why did you tell such a big lie to so many people for so long? Speaker 11: It wasn't a lie. It was I it was my imagination and in my imagination in my mind, I believed it. Speaker 10: How can you say it wasn't a lie? It it wasn't true and and you know it's not true. Speaker 11: Yes. It's not true. But in my imagination, it was true. Speaker 0: Rooms we were told for decades were homicidal gas chambers have recently been officially revised and claimed never to have served as homicidal gas chambers, such as this clothing fumigation room originally labeled an experimental gas chamber at Majdanek or this shower room at Dachau, which once had a sign which bizarrely read gas chamber, disguised as a shower room, never used as a gas chamber. There are numerous instances which show that holocaust revisionism has been proven to be correct. The official story itself has been drastically revised. Holocaust revisionism is therefore rational and necessary in order to ascertain the truth. One of the psychological tricks used to turn you against the revisionist message is loaded name calling. You know, racist, anti Semitic, Nazi, holocaust denier. Speaker 12: The neo Nazi. These are holocaust deniers. Speaker 8: A hate group. A group that espouses anti Semitism. Speaker 0: Not only that, you're told misrepresentations of what revisionists actually believe, which sound ridiculous. Speaker 13: I say I wanna ask a question, why do people think the holocaust was fake? No. Seriously, I have no idea. So let's educate ourselves. So this is obvious Photoshop. What's that? Photoshop didn't exist during World War 2. Well, fuck you for being literal. Assholes, man. Speaker 0: Who can deny that camps such as Auschwitz physically existed? They clearly exist today. No revisionist denies that concentration, labor, and transit camps actually existed, and no revisionist denies that Jews suffered and perished during World War 2. But more than 60,000,000 people, Russians, French, Japanese, Polish, British, Americans, Chinese, and Germans themselves died as a result of the most destructive war in the history of mankind. What we're told makes Jewish suffering worse is that 6,000,000 were systematically exterminated, mostly in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. But revisionists don't believe that story. The main revisionist arguments are there was no plan to exterminate world Jewry. There were no homicidal gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. The 6,000,000 figure is a propaganda figure with no connection to the actual number of Jewish dead during World War 2. Revisionists claim there was no systematic plan to exterminate every Jew in the world. To this day, there has been no, quote, Hitler order found, ordering the extermination of Jews. Holocaust proponents want us to believe the entire alleged Holocaust was communicated as a sort of Chinese whisper game to high ranking officers. They claimed code words were used to mask the extermination plot. Revisionists state there was no plan to exterminate world Jewry. Revisionists say the final solution was a policy to expel Jews from Germany and Europe. During the war, Jews were also used for forced labor. There was nothing unusual about that as the Americans also sent Japanese men, women, and children to concentration camps in America where many performed labor to aid the war effort. Speaker 10: Their parents, most of whom are American citizens, and their grandparents who are aliens immediately wanted to go to work. Speaker 0: For instance, at Mancinar concentration camp in California, Japanese Americans worked with plants which were processed to create rubber. While Jewish and Polish prisoners worked in synthetic rubber factories in Monowitz, a subcamp of Auschwitz. Revisionists have rigorously investigated the alleged homicidal gas chambers, conducted chemical tests on the walls of the facilities, and have come to the conclusion that there were no homicidal gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. Rooms we were told served as homicidal gas chambers either operated as morgues as labeled on the original plans of the crematories at Auschwitz Birkenau, were actual shower rooms such as in Mauthausen, or were used for fumigating clothing. This gas chamber at Majdanek concentration camp was preserved. Millions of people have been influenced by holocaust propaganda such as this. But today, even the Majdanek Museum admits this was just an actual working shower room. Manipulative propaganda artists used several techniques to deceive millions of people into believing this actual working shower room was a homicidal gas chamber, bizarrely disguised as a shower room. They apparently filmed at night to avoid light coming in from the many windows. They deliberately avoid showing. Horror movie lighting and sound effects were added. They closed one of the room's 3 doors to imply there was only one way in and out. They refused to show any of the additional features of the room. The working pipes connected to the closed boiler room used for making hot water or the well outside. They put their camera right in front of concrete bathtubs designed to disinfest prisoners in order to keep them alive. These deceivers made choice after choice after choice. The trick viewers was preserved. Millions of gullible viewers bought the lie that this was a fake shower room with fake shower heads used to gas Jews. Despite the fact that no one was ever gassed in this real shower room, a shower head from Majdanek is reverently displayed at the Dallas Holocaust Museum Center For Education and Tolerance. Should those who care about the truth tolerate this deceptive indoctrination? No. This shower room was and still is used as proof that other homicidal gas chambers disguised as shower rooms existed at other camps such as Auschwitz. Variations of this hoax within a hoax have appeared in films shown around the world. Most notably, the acclaimed French documentary, night in fog. The major trick here was cutting from the shower room to the iron doors of rooms related to clothing fumigation, which were actually located nearly 30 feet away in a separate structure. The filmmakers combined 2 separate building parts to trick you into believing this was a gas chamber disguised as a shower room with a metal door used to restrain those getting gassed, Combining different features of different rooms and making us believe they're part of the same homicidal gas chamber disguised as a shower room is a common trick of holocaust propaganda. At Dachau, imagery of a gas chamber disguised as a shower room was driven into our minds. Dachau is where the world came to believe the rumors and saw what we believe to be evidence of well engineered German machinery capable of gassing with precision and efficiency. But when we examine the Dachau gas chamber claims, we uncover lie after lie after lie. Speaker 1: Hanging in orderly rows were the clothes of prisoners who had been suffocated in a lethal gas chamber. They had been persuaded to remove their clothing under the pretext of taking a shower for which towels and soap were provided. This is the browsed bud, the shower bath. Inside the shower bath, the gas vents. On the ceiling, the dummy shower heads. In the engineers room, the intake and outlet pipes, push buttons to control inflow and outtake of gas. A hand valve to regulate pressure. Cyanide powder was used to generate the lethal smoke. From the gas chamber, the bodies were removed to the crematory. Speaker 0: We were shown clothing airing out outside of a disinfestation chamber, and we're told to believe this is the clothing of homicidal gas chamber victims. Then they deceptively cut to the shower room door, and the viewer is supposed to believe they are the same door, the one with the obvious written gas warnings on it and the supposed gas chamber disguised as a shower room designed to trick those entering. The hoaxers showed film of these disinfestation gas chambers for fumigating clothing, which are located at the end of the building. They claimed these doors, clearly marked with warning signs and skulls and crossbones, were used to gas prisoners. This is where the disinfestation chambers are and the doors clearly marked with warnings, but the shower room is located a few rooms away. The deception was to trick the average viewer into thinking the clearly marked delousing chamber door with skull and crossbones located at the end of the building was the same as the shower room door. This dirty deception continues to this day. From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum website, view of the door of the gas chamber in Dachau, an American soldier stands outside of the gas chamber in Dachau. View of the door to the gas chamber at Dachau next to a large pile of uniforms. The door to the gas chamber in Dachau. It is marked shower bath. View of the door to the gas chamber in the Dachau concentration camp. A sign above it identifies it as a shower. The US Holocaust Museum used the singular the to imply both of these doors were the same door of the same homicidal gas chamber disguised as a shower room. They show the outside of the clothing fumigation chamber doors located at the end of the building, then show the inside of the shower room door located all the way over here. There are 4 disinfestation chambers, not one. But they chose photographs which show one door and use the singular the and mix it with images of the shower room. You can see the disinfestation chambers had warnings not to enter and marks designating when clothing fumigation started and when it was safe to open the doors again. Here, they miraculously refer to this as a gas chamber, of course, ignoring that it was one of the 4 used to delouse clothing. The photograph's caption reveals the early propaganda lies still perpetrated today. Gas room. People were hung up in here. These hooks were not used to hang people in gas chambers. They were just hooks for clothing, of course. View of the hooks outside the door to the gas chambers in Buchenwald. 1st, this isn't even Buchenwald. This is a photo of the Dachau delousing chambers. The original caption reads, Buchenwald was the home of Ilsa Koch, wife of the commandant. She was known as the bitch of Buchenwald, an insult to every dog who ever lived. She had her inmates tattooed in various designs, then had them killed, then skinned, and their hides tanned to make book bindings, lampshades, and other articles. I saw these things. One story has it that she enjoyed sexual intercourse with her victims. This may be apocryphal. These meat hooks were used on the bodies of humans. Just about everything claimed in this miscaptioned photo is false. This example illuminates the typical hysterical propaganda common at the time, still repeated today by a government funded institution. In reality, these alleged meat hooks are just clothing hangers for clothing to air out after passing through the fumigation chambers. At Dachau, we were presented with seemingly complex looking German engineered machinery, which we assumed would be required for proper homicidal gas chambers. However, none of these pipes and mechanisms had any way to actually introduce poison gas into the would be shower chamber. Speaker 1: Cyanide powder was used to generate the lethal smoke. Speaker 0: Contrary to this film, ziklon b was not a powder which could fly through these pipes. Zyclon b pesticide was absorbed into pebble like bits of gypsum. This complex machinery sure looked like it would be something we'd expect in German designed death chambers. But because this equipment had no way to insert Zyklon B Pellets into the alleged gas chamber, today, we're told the Germans instead would have just poured the pesticide pellets into the room through vents in the outside wall. This is quite odd because the disinfestation chambers right down the hall actually did have advanced specially designed mechanisms to properly heat and circulate cyanide gas from the Zyklon b pesticide pellets. This was called a dagesh circulatory device made by the manufacturer of Zyklon b. A member of a clothing fumigation crew would put a can of Zyklon b into the holder. A built in can opener would open the can. The pellets would drop down a chute into a basket where hot air would be blown through to speed the release of cyanide gas from the pellets, which it was absorbed in. The pesticide would be spread throughout the clothing fumigation chamber, and when finished, the gas would be removed from the chamber and fresh air blown in. One should be very skeptical upon learning that today, the official story is that the Germans, rather than using something like this specially designed device used in their clothing delousing chambers right down the hall, simply poured Zyklon B pellets through holes in a wall or dropped the pesticide pellets on the heads of those inside the alleged gas chambers. Not exactly that advanced German engineering we were originally propagandized with, is it? Currently, the US Holocaust Museum itself admits, quote, there is no credible evidence that the gas chamber in Barrack X was used to murder human beings. The Dachau Museum still desperately wants to hold on to the gas chamber disguised as a shower room story. For years, they displayed a sign labeling the room gas chamber disguised as a shower room, never used as a gas chamber in the face of overwhelming evidence that this room was never used to gas anyone, their senseless story claims the Germans were going to use this as a homicidal gas chamber, but never got around to it. So the narration of the Nuremberg trial evidence film Nazi concentration camps was completely wrong. His clothing did not belong to anyone suffocated in a lethal gas chamber because today, it is officially conceded that no one was gassed at Dachau. This was just clothing which passed through the real gas chambers for Dylaussin clothing and was airing out. This deceptive narration of the Dachau segment is an important part of the falsehoods in the Nuremberg trials film evidence centerpiece. For decades, the gullible masses manipulated by a monopoly media bought the lie This shower room at Majdanek concentration camp was a gas chamber disguised as a shower room. However, thanks to pressure from holocaust revisionists, both the Majdanek and Dachau shower rooms are officially admitted never to have been used to gas anyone. This bizarre practice of calling shower rooms gas chambers continues to this day. We can see on the website of Israel's holocaust museum, Yad Vashem, a photograph captioned, a gas chamber. After the liberation, this was just another real shower. Flossenburg, Germany, gas chambers, which were called showers. This claim is repeated on the HistoryWiz website, the final solution. The photograph is captioned, the final destination for those who could not work, the gas chamber. Here, the gas chamber at Flossenburg. The hoaxers pulled the same old trick, angling the camera to block out the many windows of this real working shower room. The top official authorities today concede this room was a real shower, never used to gas anyone. This doesn't stop Israel's Holocaust Museum and others from spreading gas shower nonsense. The Historywiz website presents an important quote. To be ignorant of history is to remain always a child. Cicero, that certainly holds true to those who childishly and ignorantly believe showers were gas Speaker 14: chambers. And we were segregated to a shower room. And other women went somewhere else. We had to undress and left our clothes behind. There went on the towels, no soap. We walked into that room. Stone floors, openings in the ceiling, which I can still see in front of me. And we were trembling. It was bitter cold. I waited and waited. They said, don't you know where you've been? I said, no. Where? You were in a gas chamber. When I heard that, I completely, utterly lost my voice. Speaker 0: The NBC report cut an important part of the story mentioned in other interviews. Can you spot it? Speaker 7: Now when you got to Auschwitz with your mother, you said she went into what you thought was a shower room, but actually, it was a gas chamber. Speaker 14: We walked in. We were trembling. A little while later, water came through. I scrolled the water. Wonderful. We drank, and we were so dry. That's stiff. And we showered ourselves, and then the water stopped. We came out of there, and the women who worked there screamed, oh, you are alive. How wonderful to see you and embrace enough.' I said, what are you told? Why are you so shouty? What? They said, don't you know where you've been?' I said, nowhere. You were in the gas chamber. Speaker 0: What skeptical questions came into your mind? We were told the gas chambers were decorated with fake shower heads not connected to any real piping. So if she were in a gas chamber, how did water come out? If the Nazis wanted to gas her, why did they bathe her instead? If they wanted to gas her, why didn't they? If the Germans wanted to kill her and made some mistake turning the water valve instead of the gas valve, Why didn't they kill her and her mother at any time later? The story sounds unbelievable on multiple levels. How would one go about fact checking her claim? Gina Turkell was born Gina Goldfinger. An affidavit she signed in 1945 swears she was only in Auschwitz for 2 days. This is confirmed via camp records reported in the Auschwitz Chronicle. In her book, I Light a Candle, she lies and claims she was there less than a month and fills those days with pages of bogus atrocity stories. One of the key sections in this yarn spinner's book is this passage about a shower at Bergen Belsen. Mother and I used to get up at 4 in the morning to avoid the queues of people waiting to use the shower block about an hour later. We undressed and showered our bodies with ice cold water. The only soap we had was a barrel of honey colored liquid soap manufactured out of human flesh from the bodies of people shot by the SS on the transports. Many times we wondered, could this be my brother, my sister, another relation? There's absolutely no truth to this human soap claim and the bogus rumor about Jews bathing with soap manufactured out of the fat of murdered Jews was abandoned by holocaust believers in the 19 nineties. Revisionists say there were 2 separate concentration camp horror rumors related to showers. The prisoners bathed with soap made from the corpses of former prisoners and that some shower rooms were really gas chambers. One rumor was abandoned, yet one is still claimed as undeniable fact. Revisionists assert both claims are wartime propaganda fiction. Continuing to debunk Turguel's claim, even holocaust believers state the showerheads in the alleged gas chambers disguised as shower rooms were supposed to be fake, not connected to piping, and therefore, no water whatsoever would have ever come out of them even if one believed there were homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz Birkenau. According to mainstream holocaust scholars, gassings ceased in November 1944, 2 months before Goldfinger's arrival in January 1945. The supposed gas chambers were allegedly dismantled in advance of the Soviet counteroffensive. There's no way to spin it even according to mainstream holocaust believers. Gina Turkel Goldfinger absolutely, definitely was not in a homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz. Gina Turkel's story is a lie. Yes. Lie. Not an innocent mistake or confusion, a deliberate lie. If she did take a real shower and some woman spreading unsubstantiated rumors claimed they were in a gas chamber and they all embraced hysterically. That's one thing. But Goldfinger further added deliberate lies to fit with the orthodox story of Auschwitz' homicidal gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. Turgell claimed to have seen holes in the ceiling. These are the mythical holes claimed to have been used to drop Zyklon B into the gas chambers. Speaker 14: We walked into that room. Stone floors, openings in the ceiling, which I can still see in front of me. Speaker 0: She claims to still be able to see these holes today. Just another example of her deliberate exaggeration and falsehoods. In some interviews, Turkel mentions going down steps to fit with the story of mass gassings in crematoria 23. Speaker 15: We were segregated by doctor Mengele. As you maybe read about him, he was, the one who tortured and experimented on people. And we were segregated to a shower, so many women and my mother and myself. And we walked down on some steps, and we got into that place, stone floors, openings in the ceiling. Speaker 0: Like many holocaust exaggerators, Goldfinger claims a personal interaction with the ever present doctor Mengele. More importantly, Goldfinger mentions going down steps when entering a supposed gas chamber at the Auschwitz 1 main camp. However, what's claimed to have served as a gas chamber, the former crematory building at Auschwitz 1, has no steps. It's leveled to the ground. It also has not claimed to have had a working shower inside, and, at the time, would have been subdivided into multiple rooms to serve as a bomb shelter. Tergell clearly tried to combine holocaust claims about crematoria 23 at nearby Birkenau with her would be gas shower at the Auschwitz main camp. Yet no such underground gas chamber with working showers is even claimed to have ever existed at the Auschwitz I camp, even according to mainstream holocaust authorities. What a terrible liar. Turkel's tall tale has been spread around the world, seen and believed by 100 of 1,000 of gullible fools. People Magazine, The Independent, Telegraph, Woman's Day, writer Megan Friedman, The most ridiculous rehash of this demonstrable hoax is in the aptly titled mad world news. 90 year old woman miraculously survived something built to kill 1,000,000. Surprisingly, this title isn't meant to be sarcastic at all. Gullible fools really believe this woman wasn't something built to kill 1,000,000, and the stupid Nazis hit the water switch instead of the gas switch. Goldfinger reveals her absurd penchant for exaggerations and knack for hamming it up to make a good story. Quote, I wear a lot of perfume. The stench of the camps will always stay with me, and I try to block it out. Speaker 14: When my thoughts go back, I pinched myself. Am I really alive? I don't believe myself. Speaker 0: And you shouldn't either. You've just seen an example of how historical revisionism works. This woman told a story. The story was investigated, proven to be false, and therefore, history must be revised and the record set straight. But don't hold your breath for a retraction from NBC. Who's responsible for spreading this misinformation? Bill Neely is a TV journalist and chief global correspondent for NBC News. Neely has won 3 consecutive BAFTA awards for news coverage, an Emmy award, a Peabody award, and has numerous other nominations and awards for international news reporting over the past 2 decades. It's fair to say Neely is at the top of mainstream journalism. Either this highly decorated journalist did no fact checking whatsoever and has no clue how the gas chambers were supposed to have worked and or he knows how to play the game and doesn't care if this woman was never actually in a gas chamber disguised as a shower room. Here's Neely on stage at the Peabody Journalism Awards. While Neely crosses his arms. NBC chief global correspondent Richard Engel gives an acceptance speech. Engel is Jewish. His father was a Goldman Sachs financier. If Bill Neely wanted to continue his career, would he dare question the holy tale of German death showers? Speaker 16: Israel is on high alert this morning and taking action against an escalating why wave of deadly violence by Palestinians. NBC chief global correspondent Bill is in Jerusalem. Bill, good morning. Speaker 0: Mainstream career minded journalists are either complete failures, totally inept at checking even the most basic facts, or they know to advance their career, they can't rock the holocaust boat, or they're deliberately taking part in lying to the public to further an agenda. Pointing to malicious intent, it appears as if NBC deliberately cut out the part where Turkell mentions water coming out of the supposedly fake gas chamber, shower heads. You can see the quick flash to white. This is a key piece of information because the official holocaust story version 2016, states that water was never supposed to come out of the supposedly fake shower heads of the alleged gas chambers. If what revisionist claim is true, that what we're told about the gas chambers disguised as shower rooms is in fact a lie based on camp rumors then twisted into out and out lying. The fact is that mainstream journalists such as Bill Neely would not be the ones exposing it. So we have to accept that those doing the fact checking, doing the debunking of these false stories are not in the mainstream. They are a ragtag group of independent investigative journalists, scientists, and history buffs. Revisionists, such as the one using a pseudonym who found documents debunking Turguel's story, don't have the resources or expensive suits of these hack big budget journalists. The revisionists are the ones doing the job. The public trusted these decorated mainstream journalists supposedly at the top of their field to do. Mainstream journalists are either completely inept, useful idiots who bought the showers of death story or willing profiteers in the ongoing scam. Now you may say this Gina Turkell Goldfinger is an old lady. How dare you pick on her? But do your sympathies really extend to all old women? This is Ursula Haberbeck. She's a German lady recently sentenced to 10 months in prison because she doesn't believe the stories of gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. She speaks out against what she views as what amounts to a blood libel against her people. Even at 87 years old, she's sharp and intelligent, fluent in multiple languages. She looked into the gas chamber shower room claims and found them to be untrue. She courageously speaks out against these allegations and as a result, was recently sentenced to 10 months in prison. Because Jews like this, aided by the mainstream media, lie about their experiences in prison camps. 70 years ago, this 87 year old woman is currently in prison in 2016. 87 years old. 10 months in prison. What do they have to hide? The media and commentators claim the Jewish gas shower liar is a saint. Amazing escape from Auschwitz gas chamber. And the skeptical German deserves torturous imprisonment. German grandmother, 87, is sentenced to 10 months in jail for denying the Holocaust and saying Auschwitz was just a labor camp. The moderated British comment section is illustrative. 87 year old grandmother, is that supposed to gain our sympathy? And tolerant guy writes, 10 months should have been 10 years. Gina Turkel Goldfinger spent 2 days in Auschwitz and lies about it. Turguel was given the MBE award, member of the most excellent order of the British Empire by the queen of England, 3 ranks below knighthood for brainwashing British school kids with outrageous anti German atrocity fables about human soap and gas showers. Ursula Haverbeck is about to spend 150 times more days in jail than Goldfinger spent in Auschwitz for denying these absurd stories of showers of death. Speaker 12: Most of the people in England, America, Australia have no idea what a tyranny this country is. Speaker 17: More than 2,000 trials a year, and that over more than 10 years. So you can imagine how many peoples have suffered from it, and families have been destroyed and they lost their job and so on and so on. Mhmm. That they said Speaker 14: the truth. Speaker 18: And simply for inquiring simply for inquiring Speaker 17: Yes. Into the sources Speaker 18: for it, they are not promoting any ideas. They are simply asking Yes. Questions like you do. Speaker 0: Perhaps sometime in 2016, Bill Neely may be on a stage accepting a journalism award, while at the same time, an 87 year old grandmother skeptical of the gas shower stories he is paid to perpetuate, suffers in a concrete German prison cell. Why did we believe in the gas showers? We believed in showers of death because decorated journalists such as Bill Neely told us to. We trusted that he vetted the source, did fact checking, like we're told any journalist normally does. Many are just brainless bimbos though. Speaker 7: You said you went into what you thought was a shower room, but actually it was a gas chamber. Speaker 0: A major reason we believed in the story of showers of death is the terrible images of corpses taken at the end of the war. But those horrific images of emaciated and dead prisoners are not proof of an extermination program. Speaker 12: This special presentation of the Oprah Winfrey Show is brought to you with limited commercial interruption. It is supported in part by the new AT and T, committed to education. Speaker 2: I'm here in Poland at the Auschwitz death camp where it's estimated that 1.1 to 1,500,000 people perished here in the holocaust. Speaker 0: At an early age, you were probably exposed to a program like this. Propaganda such as this is specifically targeted towards women and children. This video is often shown in schools to indoctrinate young impressionable school children. You can even see this copy was taken from a website called School Tube. Videos like this were made to shock and emotionally manipulate the audience. Speaker 2: That evil has a name, the holocaust. A systematic mass murder meticulously planned and executed by Nazi Germany that brutally wiped millions of people off the face of the earth. More than 6,000,000 of those human beings were Jewish. Speaker 0: Young school children have no ability or experience to analyze the context of this imagery. This is powerful. Trauma based mind control used to brainwash, not by using logic and facts, but by searing these horror images into a captive audience's minds and manipulating emotions with a violin score. You were shown horrific film footage of emaciated, naked bodies with no context to the imagery. Other than that, they are proof of a systematic extermination policy. Speaker 2: The holocaust. A systematic mass murder meticulously planned and executed. Speaker 0: Revisionists say this isn't proof at all. These images were taken at the very end of the war. Severe overcrowding combined with a disastrous collapse of hygiene measures caused diseases such as typhus and dysentery to spread out of control. The allies bombed supply lines into the camps, shipments of food into the camps, water treatment plants, and in some cases, bombed the actual camps. Not only Jewish concentration camp prisoners struggled and perished during the final months of World War 2. For months upon months, the German civilian population was the target of an unprecedented firebombing campaign by the Western Allies from Hamburg to Dresden. Tens of 1,000 of innocent German civilians were deliberately targeted and murdered. Women and children were burned alive, and terrified families suffocated from poison gas and bomb shelters. Those who survived became refugees running for their lives and also struggled to feed themselves. In the east, German civilian populations were also fleeing the invading Soviet army, which was beating, torturing, and murdering civilians. The Red Army raped untold numbers of German women, from young children to the elderly. Using these horrific images of the catastrophic last days of a collapsing Germany surrounded on all sides and bombed to smithereens as proof of deliberate extermination camps is the dirty trick that is the main reason people believe in the holocaust. It's why many react strongly against those questioning the holocaust. After all, we all saw the bodies. Right? These images were taken in camps liberated by the Western allies, primarily Dachau, liberated by the Americans, and Bergen Belsen, liberated by the British, camps which are today admitted even by holocaust believers not to have served as extermination or death camps. Today, all of the so called death camps or extermination camps are claimed to have been in Polish territories conquered by the Soviet Union. Early witnesses originally claimed these western liberated camps also had homicidal gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. However, doctor Charles Larson, one of America's leading forensic pathologists, performed over a 1000 autopsies at Dachau and 20 other German camps and confirmed that, quote, never was a case of death by poison gas uncovered. Today, these particular camps are admitted not to have had homicidal gas chambers at all. So none of the corpses seen in these images were gassed. What you see in these images are prisoners who died from disease as well as a lack of appropriate food, water, and medical supplies. A large part of their condition was due to the allies bombing supply lines to the camps. Allied fighter planes even bombed and strafed trainloads full of prisoners as they were being evacuated to different camps. Those prisoners who weren't hit by bullets or bombs were without appropriate supplies for days until arriving at their destination. The liberation of Dachau concentration camp is dramatized in the film Shutter Island. The Americans liberating Dachau came across what became known as the Dachau death trains. They saw bullet holes in the sides of the trains and dead prisoners inside in terrible condition. Believing the Germans locked starved prisoners inside the trains then machine gunned them, the Americans turned their fury to the captured German guards. Speaker 19: The gods surrendered. We took their guns. We lined them up. It wasn't warfare. It was it was murder. Speaker 0: Many of the German guards who surrendered the camp were just recently transferred to the camp in the final days of the war. Some were just teenagers from surrounding towns. Ironically, this young German guard even looks like a young DiCaprio. Revisionists say this young German was not a deliberate holacoster of Jews, but a young man tragically swept into the final days of the most brutal war in the history of mankind. The Germans surrendered. And with their hands up, the Americans shot dozens of captured unarmed German guards, a war crime. The Americans played judge, jury, and executioner. But evidence has come to light that the Germans did not lock prisoners inside the trains and machine gun them. The bullets which tore through the trains full of prisoners were not German bullets, but in fact, the result of allied warplanes strafing the trains. Here's a Jewish former prisoner talking about the allies bombing and shooting his train, killing prisoners on the way to Dachau, explaining their condition. Speaker 20: I was ordered to go marched out to the railroad station and back into the cattle cars, but this time, they had opened wagons and regular cattle cars. But the only difference is was that the railroad tracks on one track, the Nazis were retreating with the heavy artillery, ammunition and all their hardware. And in other fact, the concentration campaign bids in the train road. The Nazis were hoping maybe because we are there, they will not be bombed. It was a it would have been a short trip, but it took us almost 3 days to get to Dachau. What had happened, we got hit by air raid. They bombed the both of the tracks. They machine gunned our train and in the train where I was sitting this time, it wasn't so loaded. We were all squatting down. Both of the fellow beside me got hit by machine gun fire. And I just days by then, the guards were gone. We opened the railroad car and stumbled out of the car and walked into the woods nearby and hid there. I remember going out on the fields and dug up some potatoes for food, But they came back next morning or a day later with dogs, gathered us together, and ordered us back to the railroad cars. They never removed the bodies. This is how we arrived to Dachau. Speaker 0: This Jews train was bombed and shot by allied planes. The prisoners the allies killed were left inside the train. Prisoners who weren't blown up or shot by the allies suffered further malnutrition in part due to the bombing of train tracks delaying their journey. The allies were directly responsible for killing many on these death trains. Bullets from allied airplanes tore through the bodies of those prisoners shortly before the American infantry arrived at Dachau. American infantry, ignorant of the role of allied bombing and strafing runs, contributing to the deaths of the prisoners inside the death trains, flipped blame on the Germans. They lined the unarmed surrender German guards against a wall and executed them, committing a war crime which has gone unpunished to this day. Misunderstandings, propaganda, falsehoods, blind patriotism, mistakes, rushing to judgment. How else could 1,000,000 be driven into killing their own people, themselves essentially? Speaker 19: It wasn't warfare. It was it was murder. Speaker 0: The allies also directly bombed concentration camp prisoners. And today, we are told this is proof of a German planned holocaust. This is another segment from the American propaganda film, Nazi Concentration Camps, which was shown at the Nuremberg trials. Speaker 4: The slave labor camp at Nordhausen liberated by the 3rd Armored Division First Army. At least 3,000 political prisoners died here at the brutal hands of SS troops and pardon German criminals who were the camp guards. Nordhausen had been a depository for slaves found unfit for work in the underground b bomb plants and in other German camps and factories. Speaker 0: A deceptively captioned image of Nordhausen appears in Steven Spielberg's The Last Days companion book. We see American soldiers walking past corpses strewn on the ground. The caption reads, the horrific scene of mass annihilation within the Nordhausen concentration camp. Let's look closer at the photograph. We can see the buildings have been bombed. Testimony of former prisoners shows they were lucky to survive allied bombing attacks. This Jewish former prisoner and doctor describes prisoners laying in the camp hospital sick of tuberculosis in the final days of the war. Speaker 21: And there, I had over 4000 prisoners laying on tuberculosis. Sick? What are you doing with tuberculosis? No medications, nothing, Hardly food. It was very meager already. The Germans didn't have to eat. Speaker 0: This former prisoner and doctor described conditions in the camp in the final days of the war. Sick prisoners didn't have enough supplies. However, he points out the Germans themselves also didn't have enough even to eat. Clearly, the Germans could have killed the sick prisoners at any time, yet instead treated them in hospitals. Speaker 21: All of a sudden, it was April 3rd at 3 o'clock, alarm and American Air Force over us, we dropped the bombs just on our camp. But the whole camp was entirely destroyed. And out of this 4,000 people, we've had 200 survived because they died there. They were in the camps, you know, hanging in the ceiling, dead bodies. It was awful. It was burning days days. We were still, if the nurses, the doctors, the administration people work in the nation, we run away. And the Americans made a mistake because they didn't know this is a concentration camp. They knew it is a military camp. They emptied the military a month before, or in January, we put us in, you see. So they didn't know. So they came back at 9 o'clock in the morning and hit the whole city. The whole city, they flattened. We run away in the wood, in the fields and when they emptied the planes, they came and striped us with machine guns. You know, you could know who it is. They are Germans, you know. And we went into the woods, but we remained about a week in the woods, and we ate only the raw, potatoes. Speaker 0: The British Royal Air Force bombed the camp. Full of sick prisoners, they turned around and shot survivors running for their lives. They flattened the nearby town full of innocent German civilians. The British are primarily responsible for this scene of, quote, mass annihilation. But images of Nordhausen recently bombed and strafed by British planes are still used today as proof of a deliberate German planned holocaust. And it's important to note that most of those seen in this photograph aren't even Jews, but primarily non Jewish political prisoners, including Poles, Russians, and Jehovah's Witnesses. These majority non Jewish victims of allied bombing at a former labor camp are used to sell a supposed Jewish holocaust. The Oprah program deceptively used 2 shots of the aftermath of the British air raid of Nordhausen. Nordhausen. Speaker 2: More than 6,000,000 of those human beings were Jewish. Speaker 0: This victim of the allies blowing up and strafing sick prisoners at Nordhausen being carried over rubble was in fact likely not Jewish. So we're looking at someone who was both not killed by the Germans, but by the British, and who was likely not a Jew. Here's another clip of Nordhausen. The prisoners of the camp for seriously ill prisoners who were blown up or shot by the British, were buried in this mass grave. The soldiers standing at the edge are Americans, but we are led to assume they are Germans standing at attention after a job well done. Speaker 2: Wiped millions of people off the face of the earth. Speaker 0: Actually, the British brutally wiped these prisoners off the face of the earth. The Germans put them in a camp with doctors and nurses. What's incredible is that you were shown these images as proof of an organized planned systematic extermination program going according to plan. Speaker 2: The holocaust. A systematic mass murder meticulously planned and executed. Speaker 0: When in reality, this was the result of total disorganization and the utter chaos of a collapsing Germany, which was still being bombed relentlessly into submission. Rather than do the right thing and accept blame for what could be said is accidental collateral damage based on faulty intelligence. The allies instead just blamed the Germans. Images of a camp full of sick prisoners bombed and strafed by British planes at Nordhausen, are used as proof of a systematic planned German extermination program. However, every single, mostly non Jewish prisoner in this imagery was killed due to a British bomb or bullet. The editing of the film Nazi Concentration Camps was supervised by Bud Schulberg, born Seymour Schulberg, son of the head of Paramount Studios. Schulberg was Jewish and a member of the Communist Party USA until 1939. All of these dead were murdered with British bombs or bullets, yet no mention is made of that. Schulberg claims they died at the brutal hands of Germans. Speaker 4: At least 3,000 political prisoners died here at the brutal hands of SS troops and pardon criminals who were the camp guards. Speaker 0: This is a total lie and inversion of history. The final shot of the Nazi concentration camps film shows footage of a prisoner who had his head blown off. A prisoner account describes exactly how this happened and who was responsible. The April 3rd bombing. The accounts refer, first of all, to the Tuesday, April 3rd bombing. Right from the first blast, I took shelter under the concrete staircase of the Riviera. A bomb hit the block and the staircase was demolished. I ran to the middle of the camp to a shelter dug into the ground where there were already a dozen civilians, women, children, and also an SS man as green from fear as his uniform who could only stammer, Shrekleek. Shrekleek. Horrible. Horrible. And indeed, it was not a pretty sight. Corpses every 5 or 6 yards. Headless or their innards ripped open. Today, images of Nordhausen are widely used as proof of a Jewish holocaust. Why is this particular image so popular? The bodies of those blown up or shot by the British then pulled out of craters or the rubble of buildings and lined up in ordered rows by the Americans are meant to imply an orderly German method of mass murder. Apparently, they want us to believe the Germans lined all these prisoners up here in neat rows and shot them where they stood. If these dead people were German soldiers, the Brits would pat themselves on the back for a job well done. Instead, the allies just blamed their bombing and shooting screw up on the Germans. What a horrific scam pulled right in front of our very eyes. Imagery of tragic deaths, which were the direct cause of the allies are cynically exploited to sell a lie. Speaker 22: Adolf Hitler was pure evil, and he was in command of the most advanced technology and the best disciplined people and the best educated people in the world. Speaker 12: In the wrong hands, technology helped turn Europe into a slaughterhouse. This was a war that was also a crime. Speaker 22: Eisenhower, when he first encountered concentration camps, were shocked and surprised he hadn't been told about them. His immediate reaction was, this is so horrible that there will inevitably become a revisionist movement someday to say this never happened. This is propaganda. This is a figment of wartime imagination. So he insisted that every GI who could be marched through those camps, and he said, bring your cameras with you. Speaker 0: This is a classic quote used to attempt to refute revisionists. Eisenhower said there would be deniers in the future, so he ordered witnesses march through camps and film them. No one denies these are real bodies, but the false analysis of their cause of death deflecting all blame onto Germans is the propaganda. Every single shot in this news segment was taken at Nordhausen. All of the footage of murdered prisoners in this sick camp at Nordhausen shows prisoners blown up or shot by the British. This is another example of the propaganda formula supposed expert deceptive imagery, plus calling those who question it evil haters. It turns out this master historian was later accused of plagiarism throughout his entire career. He even lied about spending 100 of hours with Eisenhower and meeting with him daily. Official records show he spent 5 hours on the record with Eisenhower. This is the mentality of these master historians promoted to the forefront of the monopoly media. There was no plan to turn these prisoners into this condition. This was the result of the catastrophic end to the war, not everything going perfectly according to an evil plan. Up until this time, these images of a bulldozer dumping naked emaciated corpses into a mass grave at Bergen Belsen, where the most horrifying imagery in the history of film. This film footage was shown to our grandparents' generation on the big screen. It has been shown to you at a young age. What are you to believe? Some programs such as the Oprah presentation lead one to assume this is a German driving this bulldozer, making his quota of gassed Jews for the day rather than a British soldier pushing epidemic typhus victims into a mass grave. Until the end of the war, Bergen Belsen was not a death camp where Germans deliberately starved to death and murdered prisoners. In fact, it was originally designated a recuperation camp or where sick prisoners were sent to improve their health. It wasn't such a terrible place until the final days of the war, and there was evidence to prove it. Rose Kahn, a Hungarian Jew, was transported from Auschwitz to Bergen Belsen in the summer of 1944 before Auschwitz was abandoned and Bergen Belsen was severely overcrowded, she describes Bergen Belsen as not such a terrible place. Speaker 9: So when we arrived to Bergen Belsen and they told us to get out and the Nazis came with those big, big dogs with the wolves, and they asked us who cannot walk. A sick should tell him so they're gonna put us on a on a on a bus. I was afraid to say it. I couldn't walk, but I didn't say it. And if I would say it would be good because this was not a bad place. This was not, at that time. At that time So Speaker 3: in other words, it wasn't a trick? They really would have taken you by bus? Speaker 9: Yes. Yes. Speaker 3: I think Speaker 8: you were right, though. Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah. But I was so afraid. So my mother and my friends were holding me and helped me. We had to walk a few miles, quite a few miles to it. And we arrived there, and we lived in tents Mhmm. Tents and straw. We slept on straw, and, and we weren't treated badly. No. It wasn't it wasn't too bad over there. We were giving nice meals. Nice What happened, they wanted us strong to send out to work. So they didn't want weak and sick people. Speaker 0: Witnesses such as this help prove that Bergen Belsen was not a specially designed death camp whatsoever. Before the catastrophic end of the war, prisoners were routinely fed and decently cared for. The major trick of the holocaust promotion industry is to show these horrible images of emaciated bodies and make you believe that prisoners were always like this, that the Germans immediately starved them to death. And this deliberate starvation had been going on for years as part of their plan of extermination. However, witnesses such as this and others prove that at times, the concentration camps were not so terrible. Speaker 9: This was not a bad place. This was not, at that time. At that time Speaker 3: So in other words, it wasn't a trick? Speaker 0: It was only as Germany was losing the war, surrounded on all sides by a terror bombing campaign from the west and marauding Soviets in the east, that conditions in camps such as Bergen Belsen deteriorated disastrously. Speaker 9: And then we stayed there till they started to build barracks for all the other Auschwitz people when when when Bergen Belsen became hell. Speaker 0: Bergen Belsen became hellish at the very end of the war. The major cause of this was the allied bombing campaign. As the allies firebombed German civilian population centers, burning innocent men, women, and children alive and shot at or bombed just about anything that moved on roads or train tracks. Even the Germans themselves had trouble finding enough to eat at the time. Speaker 21: Hardly food. It was very meager already. The Germans didn't have to eat. Speaker 23: Food didn't improve very much because, for simple reason, they didn't have it very much themselves. Speaker 3: Did the civilians try to help you at all? Did they trade goods for things? Speaker 23: It's it's as I said, we we have almost everything what we wanted for the soccer soccer teams from civilians from outside civilians. Speaker 0: The spread of deadly diseases and severe overcrowding exasperated the entire situation. Prisoners from areas in the east, which were now being overrun by the Soviets, were hastily evacuated west. After days or weeks journey, often on foot, they wound up in these overcrowded camps full of deadly diseases. And because of the German infrastructure was being destroyed, this was catastrophic. In early February 1945, a large transport of Hungarian Jews was admitted to Bergen Belsen while the disinfestation facility was out of order. As a result, typhus broke out and quickly spread beyond control. The hot air delousing machine sometimes failed to work for several days. The worst killer was typhus, but typhoid fever and dysentery also claimed many lives. There was a breakdown in order and communication throughout the German system as the Germans were losing the war and fighting for their survival. Trainloads of food were destroyed by allied planes at Bergen Belsen. The final factor which guaranteed mass casualties was in the final weeks of the war. The allies bombed the electric plant which pumped water to the camp. Speaker 24: Water too had been cut off, and so the water cart was the most important thing to arrive. There had been no water supply for 6 days. The Germans pleaded it had been cut. Speaker 0: The electric plant which supplied water to Bergen Belsen was not cut by some unnamed force. It was blown up by the British. A destroyed system for providing clean water to the camp compounded already disastrous hygiene and medical conditions. Clean water necessary to shower prisoners, wash clothing, and treat dehydrated typhoid fever, dysentery, and typhus patients was indeed cut off by British bombs. Speaker 24: One might ask why all the inmates surviving when not removed out of the camp altogether to a large town, for example, where there would be feeding and housing facilities? The answer is simply the dread word typhus, a mobile bacteriological unit and all medical aid possible, together with 90 medical students from London Hospitals, were rushed to the spot to deal with it. Lack of soap and water brought lice to the inmates, and lice carry typhus. To get rid of typhus, one must first get rid of lice so contaminated patients were removed from their huts and put through a laundry process. Speaker 0: The British struggled to remedy disastrous conditions in Bergen Belsen after liberation. Many 1,000 died after liberation. In the end, the British burned the wooden barracks as they became infested with deadly epidemic typhus carrying body lice. Images of the disastrous situation at Bergen Belsen are fraudulently used to portray a deliberate German extermination policy. These post liberation images of Bergen Belsen, as well as Dachau and Buchenwald have become symbols of German barbarism. But these people were victims of the larger war, not a deliberate German extermination policy. The Germans did what they could to keep people alive, and in some cases, contacted the Red Cross for assistance and even turned over some camps to them. The shameful truth hidden amongst this holocaust propaganda is that not only were 0 of these people gassed, but the allies played a major role in their deaths. As terrible as these images of emaciated prisoners are, images of union prisoners of the American Confederate Civil War Camp, Andersonville show liberated prisoners also appeared in a similar condition. What happened at Andersonville was a complete breakdown in hygiene measures due to inadequate sanitation facilities. Toilets in the overcrowded camp didn't drain properly, exposing prisoners to filth and disease, in particular, dysentery. Symptoms of dysentery include diarrhea and rapid weight loss. In extreme cases, patients may pass over a liter of fluid per hour. It's easy to see how someone who was repeatedly defecating, vomiting, and urinating would quickly lose body weight, especially if food supplies, medicine, and water became scarce. At Andersonville, as overcrowding increased, so did the death toll. The Confederates also lost the war in a catastrophic way, much like the Germans. So there is a direct correlation between the images of Andersonville prisoners and these so called holocaust images. Now these people at Andersonville aren't Jews and never has anyone alleged the South aimed for a total genocide of northerners. The photographs of Andersonville and, for instance, Bergen Belsen are quite similar and correlate with a breakdown in hygiene, overcrowding, the spread of disease, and one side of the war losing catastrophically. What you see in these images of Bergen Belsen are primarily the result of typhus. Typhus is a disease carried by the body louse, which is similar to head lice, but body lice prefer to attach themselves not to the scalp, but to the inner seams of clothing. Typhus was responsible for the deaths of 1,000,000 throughout history. Typhus epidemics routinely occurred throughout Europe during wartime. During World War 1, more than 3,000,000 people died from typhus. What you see in these images are primarily typhus epidemic victims. The Germans did not intentionally starve them to death. We can see several people liberated from the camps, although not in pristine condition. Some appear well fed, some even fat. They simply didn't have disease. The Germans, in fact, tried to stop the spread of disease. The insecticide, Zyklon, was a pesticide used to kill these deadly typhus carrying body lice. There's nothing inherently murderous about zyklon b. In fact, Zyklon b was used on the Mexican border to gas the clothing of Mexicans crossing the border. The delousing process went like this. Prisoners entering a camp would strip their clothing and get a haircut to prevent any areas where deadly, typhus carrying body lice could thrive. Then they would take a hot shower. At the same time, their clothing would be put in specially designed fumigation chambers where fumigation crews would use the insecticide ziklon b to kill deadly typhus carrying body lice. The prisoners would then be given clean, lice free clothing and enter the camp. It's easy to see how this life saving delousing process involving real fumigation chambers for clothing and real showers was misconstrued into wartime propaganda about showers of gas by prisoners spreading rumors as well as Soviet propaganda artists deliberately framing their enemies. 1 of the final exhibits at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC sums up the importance of the information presented in this video. Museum visitors are bombarded with film clips taken after the allies captured concentration and labor camps. These films are meant to represent proof of a deliberate German extermination policy, but you've now seen many of these clips explained and debunked. Near the end of the museum's main exhibit, 2 banks of 3 video monitors flanking a fallen Nazi flag play film footage taken after camps were captured by the allies. Each of the 3 monitors is dedicated to 1 of the 3 major allied powers, the Soviet Union, United States, and Great Britain. On this screen is US army footage taken at Nordhausen, Dachau, and Buchenwald. The caption reads, local German civilians are ordered to tour Buchenwald concentration camp. This is an American army official gathering Germans around the supposed human skin lampshade and the table filled with propaganda props. Visitors are shown the Dachau death trains full of victims of allied bombing and strafing attacks. Majdanek, the outside of a real shower facility, bath and disinfection 2, and the inside of bath and disinfection 1, showing the real working shower room. Again, the camera is angled away from the many windows. The caption reads, Soviet army officers inspect chambers where prisoners were killed by poison gas. You now know this isn't a gas chamber with fake shower heads. It's a real working shower room designed to keep prisoners alive and free of disease. Again, the bulldozer, pushing epidemic typhus victims into a mass grave at Bergen Belsen, A disaster, but not deliberate or planned. On the last television screen, we are shown footage of Nordhausen bombed to smithereens by 500 British warplanes over 2 days. Much like at the Nuremberg trials, the final shot we are shown before moving on to the exhibit on post war trials is the victim of British warplanes at Nordhausen with his exposed brains. How sick to show gory imagery of allied air attack victims as proof of the evilness of Germans. Mothers rushing their children past this section never question the context of this imagery. Real shower rooms, phony planted evidence like this lampshade, and victims of allied bombing are not proof of a genocide using gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. We were manipulated, misled, and lied to. We were shown images taken during the final days of a destroyed and collapsed Germany as proof of a systematic planned extermination program. Upon further investigation by the Western Allies, these claims of extermination camps equipped with homicidal gas chambers in western liberated camps have fallen by the wayside. However, the powerful imagery of these western liberated, overcrowded, disease infested camps devastated due to the allied bombing campaign in the final days of the worst war in history is still used to brainwash the public as proof of an extermination program of gas chambers disguised as shower rooms in Soviet liberated territory. In part 2 of questioning the holocaust, we explore the 6 remaining alleged extermination camps, all in Soviet liberated territory. We uncover the lack of physical evidence confirming the Soviet version of events. Speaker 11: If you actually find a mass grave, you have to stop. Speaker 8: Yes. Of course. Speaker 0: It's simple. Speaker 8: Okay. Speaker 11: And if you're not sure Speaker 8: Call. Ask. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 0: It's real simple. Mhmm. And the slanderous gas shower lie witnesses. Speaker 3: I think that was Mengele that took me out of there and just attached me to that gypsy prison and I went to the gas chamber. And I as I was go going into the gas chamber and I was like stuck in the door, and I I don't know. I guess god told me to do that. Speaker 8: And from that gas, which her head already emitted, you were completely drowsy. And if you had asked by my name, then I would have not known. Speaker 22: Describe the gas chambers for me. Speaker 8: It's not like a room. You think it's a shower with shower heads and tiles. Maybe we split naked, but you know that it's not water coming out, but gas. Speaker 14: Survivors found a world that could hardly believe their stories. Speaker 5: This brutal officer in charge liked music, and whenever there was a Sunday, he would get us there. We played in the facilities where other people were gassed, And it was told to us, well, aren't you a bit afraid? Indeed, dear. And the only thing which kept us not being too afraid to to play was that they were with us in there, the s s guys. If you would have been alone, I don't know what we would have done. Speaker 3: So you actually played inside the crematoria? Speaker 5: Yes. The gas chambers. Speaker 3: What did you see in there? Speaker 5: Well, you saw, it looked like a shower room, And it said on the walls, or I under Laustein told, you know, one lies, you're dead, and all kinds of good slogans to keep clean. And then, of course, that was all faked. It was just put in. There was never a drop of water in it. Speaker 0: Holocaust Handbooks, the world's premier revisionist book series. From must read classics, the Hoax of the 20th Century, the Rudolph Report, to the latest releases, debating the Holocaust, curated lies. From courageous revisionist authors, doctor Arthur Butz, Carlo Matonio, Guillermo Rudolph, comes the most advanced revisionist research, complete with important diagrams, photographs, and reproductions of archival material essential for the serious scholar and skeptic. Available as free PDF and Kindle downloads or paperback hard copies. Discover the entire collection today. Visit holocausthandbooks.com.
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This fascinating documentary about India got marked as hateful so I'm re-uploading it, enjoy. https://t.co/32dupN8yXm

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India is portrayed in a negative light, with derogatory and offensive language used to describe the country and its people. The speaker criticizes various aspects of Indian culture, including hygiene, intelligence, and physical appearance. The video also mentions instances of rape and animal abuse. The speaker concludes by suggesting that the world needs to restore biodiversity to address the environmental crisis.
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Speaker 0: India, a country shrouded in mystery. It is a cursed land and quite possibly the most disgusting country on Earth today. Some may even say it is the worst country to ever exist. In this godforsaken land, the native Indian Hindu, more colloquially known as the Pajeet, breeds out of control like a plague of rats. Often defecating in the open with no regard for its native habitat, the pajit spreads across the face of the earth like a cancerous tumor, consuming all in its path while the world watches on in disgust and horror. Speaker 1: With Speaker 0: almost 1,400,000,000 and rising, Our mother earth buckles under the terrible strain as these creatures rapidly multiply in their own filth with seemingly no end in sight. Although they are incredibly disgusting and unhygienic creatures, Somehow, the manages to procreate and thrive in its horrible surroundings. Often mutated due to its toxic environment, the pajit wallows in superstition. Its life is one of never ending death, never ending defecation, and even more, never ending degeneracy. To gaze at India is like looking into the very mouth of hell itself. Mired in filth, the disgusting slum like conditions of India are a blight on the once beautiful face of mother earth. Every time a new pajit is born, she sheds a single tear. These tears rain down on our landscape as the earth cries out in agony. In its relentless march to destroy everything around it, the pajit litters its surrounding environment with a never ending amount of trash and feces. One wonders, will there be any end to this horror? Dear viewers, it is my honor to present to you, India, the worst country on Earth. The native Hindu of India, more commonly known simply as pajit, is a cursed and often reviled species. Mocked by everyone around it, the pajit often spends its days seething in delusional rage on the Internet, trying to convince others that India is or will one day be a superpower. Of course, most people don't fall for this ruse. The premise is entirely ridiculous after all. A disgusting but fascinating species. The pajit is widely known for several key characteristics. 1st and foremost of these is its relatively low intelligence. With a median IQ of just 76.2, the Pagit fails to impress with its limited cognitive functionality. For reference, other more evolved species, such as the western lowland gorilla, have been shown to have an IQ score ranging between 70 to 90. In comparison to this lofty intelligence, the falls depressingly short. However, this low intelligence score comes as no surprise. The Pagit is well known for having the smallest brain of any of the human subvariants. The smallness of its brain is only rivaled by the equally small size of its reproductive organs. Cursed from birth to live a miserable existence, the Pagit has the 2nd smallest average penis size of any of the many and varied races of humanity on Earth today. Incredibly short and falling into a category often known simply as manlets. The average height of the pajit is a mere 5 foot 7 inches, hardly impressive by any means. But shockingly enough, as the pajit destroys its native habitat, it is only getting shorter. In a few decades, perhaps, they will be under 5 feet in height if there is any of them left at all. Stunningly unattractive, the pagit is the least desirable species of any male on earth. And if given the choice, human females will choose literally almost any other partner. Indeed, in a practice known in India as love jihad, the female variety of the Indian species will often choose to copulate and bear young to Muslims from the opposing Pakistani tribes. This practice is growing increasingly more common in India today, and it serves as no surprise. Famous for their terrible body odor, the pagi exudes a thick miasma around himself, smelling strongly of sweat, curry, smelly feet, and with a faint tinge of feces. This may be due to the traditional method of cleaning themselves after they practice defecation. In stark contrast to methods used by the more civilized members of the human race, the pajit will simply wipe his bottom with his hand before splashing water on his hind regions in a futile effort to clean himself. Although given how much of the water around him is itself polluted by feces, it's questionable if the pajit is ever really clean. Even when the migratory hordes of pajits travel to other parts of the globe seeking menial employment, perhaps as an Uber driver or food delivery worker. They often carry a bottle with them so they can quickly defecate and rinse their nether regions on the go. Perhaps the most bewildering of the pajit's characteristics is their proclivity for head bobbling. Thought by some experts to be an expression of their deep inferiority complex, pajits can often be seen bobbling their heads when they talk. It could be speculated that many of the bizarre eccentricities of the Pajeet's of India may be due to the high rate of inbreeding that occurs within the country. This inbreeding results in a high rate of birth defects. Although given how dysgenic and misshapen the average pajit appears to be, it would be very difficult to tell if he was, quote, unquote, normal or not. In some cases, these birth defects lead to spectacular mutations and could lead one to question whether the Pagit was really human or not. Perhaps they could be vile chaos creatures from the warp. I doubt even the famous HP Lovecraft could have envisioned such horrors. Females from other varieties of humans often ignore the pajit and rebuff his elaborate attempts to attract a mate. With such misfortune, it's a wonder they can breed in such large numbers at all. Plagued by constant misfortune in all areas of life, even the nomenclature used by the pajit in their primitive dialects makes them sound absolutely ridiculous with names like. It is no wonder that so very many females of the Indian species choose to cheat on their partners. Even Indian women of the night, known for selling their love to almost anyone with enough money to pay, outright reject the awkward and clumsy advances of the pajit. Perpetually unlucky in love, the is rejected by almost all women. Speaker 2: I know this Indian girl, and she goes to university abroad outside of India. So then I asked her, like, are you excited to see how the Indian guys are there? And she was like, Naila, I'm not even looking at the Indian guys. I'm only interested in the white guys. Speaker 0: Even women of different species of human find the pajit unattractive. Here, we can see several examples of the noble African American expressing their distaste toward the inferior males of the Pagit species. Speaker 3: Okay. What race would y'all not date and why? Speaker 4: I am Indians because I heard it. Speaker 5: Man. Well, You Speaker 3: can't do Indian either? Speaker 6: Yeah. Same thing. Speaker 1: You can't Speaker 3: do Indian either? Mhmm. No? G, come here. G, what rest y'all say? Speaker 7: I said Speaker 3: Indian. Yeah. I can't do it. It's killer. Speaker 5: Double o seven. Speaker 3: Okay. What race was y'all not dating? Why? Speaker 5: Oh, Indian. I can't do no Indian because I just can't see myself with them. Speaker 3: And Indian, but I kinda wanna wipe now. They just stink. Smell like cheese. Speaker 1: Smell like onion. Speaker 3: I wouldn't date someone who's mixed Indian and black. Indians, I'm sorry. I just can't date all because your food stank. You guys might stay. Recording. And no. It's Houston. They're like, curry, and that's why her pussy smell like curry. What? I'm sorry. Oh. Then I go, they no Indian because I really hate the smell of curry and, like, all these Indians do, like, curry in their What? Like, a lot of them be musty too. Oh. And, like, I just can't do that. And, like, they just smell so shit. Speaker 0: Faced with these facts, the pajit male will often fly into a terrible rage expressing his displeasure on Internet forums like r slash Asian masculinity on the website Reddit. However, there is little to fear from this impotent rage. Despite its large population due to the small stature and low IQ of the Pajit, India has only won 35 Olympics medals in its entire history, unless you count the Special Olympics, where India has achieved stunning success when placed on a level playing field. An impotent these threats are. With their declining environment and slovenly living standards, India is fast becoming the impotence capital of the world. Luckily, faced with these setbacks, the Pajits of India have devised some ingenious coping measures summarized in Pu's laws. In the first of these laws, we can see that the longer you argue with the pajit online, the more likely it is he will claim he has sex with women, especially white women. Although due to his many shortcomings, anyone could tell this is blatantly untrue. The second law, perhaps the most widely employed by the Pajit, is to attempt to deflect criticism of himself onto others around him. For instance, he may blame China or Pakistan for his misfortunes. He may also blame the British or cite examples from far into ancient history. For instance, if you point out that people in India defecate on the street, the Paji will glibly reply that people in 12th century England also practiced open defecation. The third law, often seen used in conjunction with the second, involves the pagit, comparing your actions to his particularly immature. This is like the grown up version of a young child in kindergarten saying, I know you are, but what am I? Virtually nobody is impressed by this, but in the pageant's mind, he has scored a temporary victory. This incredible power of self delusion is is a masterstroke of evolution and shows us that no matter the odds, life always finds a way. Every morning, the pajit awakens in what he firmly believes is a superpower. In New Delhi, the historic capital of India, he opens the window to his rundown slum apartment and looks outside. Amidst the giant landfills of trash, so tall they need warning lights to prevent aircraft crashing into them, The pajit can see his dreams of what he believes is the greatest country on Earth. Anyone not gifted with the Pajit's incredible powers of self delusion would see a shattered and destroyed landscape covered in trash. The wildlife, what there is left of it, clings on to a miserable existence. Few could look upon such and devastation and feel anything but incredible sadness. In his endless entitlement, insecurity, and hubris, the page lays waste to everything in his path. Scenes reminiscent of even the most war ravaged cities of the 2nd World War are repeated over and over again. There is seemingly no bounds to the ability of the pajit to bring his native habitat to ruin. No other creature could be so careless, so destructive, or so callous. But the Pagit, wrapped in his thick self delusion, can see absolutely nothing wrong with his environment. For him, this wasteland embodies everything he perceives to be quintessentially Indian, and he feels nothing but a sense of pride. To anyone else, these conditions would be almost intolerable. But with a smug arrogance, the pajit will wade through mountains of trash and proudly tell you India is superior to your country. Although any of the human variants blessed with a larger brain could easily see that it is not. Much like a 1,400,000,000 strong army of orcs from the Lord of the Rings books by the late j r r Tolkien, the pajit wages his terrible and endless war against our mother Earth with reckless abandon. Speaker 8: Do you know how the orcs first came to be? They were elves once. Taken by the dark powers. Touched and mutilated. A ruined and terrible form of life. Whom do you serve? Saruman. Speaker 0: Not content with merely destroying the land around him, the pajid takes his brutal war on mother Earth to the air. The once blue skies of India are often shrouded in thick smoke as the Pagit burns much of his native habitat to save himself the work of land clearing. When combined with the ever burning mountains of trash and the countless millions of road vehicles operated by the Pagit every day. The skies above the cities of India are amongst the most polluted on Earth. Every day, while this untold carnage against nature and mother earth occurs, the pajit, in his endless delusion, will simply close his door, turn on his air conditioner, and claim to anyone that will listen that India is taking over the world. His dream, albeit one born from a very small brain, is to spread this vision to every distant part of the globe. A horrible scene played out in all its terrifying spectacle every day for months, every single year. Although this is not the end of the world, you can see it from here. In his endless rage, perhaps seeking to compensate for the small size of his reproductive organs or his utter lack of success mating with females, the pajit strikes out at the world around him in anger. With such massive and unchecked amounts of pollution in the skies, if this is allowed to continue, will humanity have a tomorrow? Or will the sun set on our once great species due to the irresponsible habits of the pajit? Only time will tell. When the landfills are overflowing and he cannot find any spare space to deposit his garbage, the innovative Pajit will find alternative solutions to his waste problems. Here, we can see these future engineers, and some may say skilled migrants simply emptying their trash into the local rivers. Although they worship the rivers and claim they are holy, perhaps to them, the trash is equally as holy. After all, it is as much a part of India as the paji is himself. The relationship between the paji and his propensity to spread filth and squalor around himself makes his trash almost symbiotic in nature. In some cases, it is difficult to know where one finishes and the other begins. Wherever the pajit migrates to, he will spread this trash around him like he is building a nest made of filth. As the pajit empties his sacred trash into the rivers of his habitat, the tidal wave of refuse makes its way through the waterways and estuaries of India out into the oceans of the world. Nonbiodegradable. This trash will remain in the rivers and oceans for 100 of years, an enduring sign of India with us long after the pajit himself is gone. Much like the trash itself, when his time comes to an end, the Pajit's body will be thrown into the river where it is often eaten by the many stray dogs that eke out a tortured existence in India today. Speaker 1: That's where we're going. Left or right? Speaker 0: Left or right. I think right. No? Speaker 1: You know, he tries to get to my pool. Speaker 6: And the pig right next to it. Speaker 1: He was catching his pig Speaker 9: And fall down and got stuck. Speaker 1: Oh, the pig pushed him in. Speaker 5: Wow. The dog is sifting his leg. Speaker 0: Should we go left? Speaker 5: The big belly. First. Yes. Speaker 0: With limited food available for the stray dogs of India in a landscape of such incredible amounts of trash and feces, a favorite meal of these hardy dogs is the corpse of the pajit. Speaker 5: It looks nyummy. Speaker 10: Okay. It's very popular. Speaker 1: Alright. You only sense enjoyment. They're eating sweets and Speaker 0: Although the pajit probably tastes even worse than he smells, in such a devastated wasteland, these corpses are often the only food source available for these dogs. Unable to digest the plastic trash which grows in the mountains and rivers of India, They feed on this carry on eagerly. This gruesome meal could be their last. Although it may seem cruel, the unfortunate animals who still reside in the devastated ecosystem of India live on feeding on the discarded corpses of their tormentors. The cycle of life continues. Much like the trash, the corpses are also sometimes burned, a once practiced ritual in India known as sati, commonly saw the pajit's wife immolated alive with the body of her husband after his death. Although, thankfully, this barbaric ritual has now been outlawed. In the modern India of today, once her husband, the Paji, dies, the female of the Indian species is free to pursue relationships, often with males from more physically prominent members of the human race. Here in the twilight years of her life, the Indian female can perhaps find the love and sexual pleasure she was sorely lacking in her marriage with Pajit. One can only hope she finally finds happiness, something lacking in abundance in India. Although many members of the human race would be perturbed by the decrepit conditions in India, the Pajits of India have perfectly adapted to the filth of their surrounding environment. This can be seen most apparently in what passes for food in India. Many would be unable to stomach such dishes, but for the hardy pajit, just about anything is tolerable. In this aspect, the pajit shows his incredible resilience and adaptability, a true omnivore in every sense of the word. He's able and willing to consume almost anything to meet his daily nutritional needs. With an immune system evolved over dozens of generations spent living in this filth and squalor. Here on full display, we can observe the Pagit's most admirable characteristic and perhaps his only positive one. Food hygiene practices that would see almost any other member of the human race laid low with illness and explosive diarrhea or even an untimely demise are of little concern to the. In fact, he readily enjoys consuming these dishes and will often gloat on the Internet about how his country, India, the superpower, has incredible food. Many people, however, may disagree with this assumption. As with all members of the human race, daily meals are an important and necessary measure for the survival of the pajits of India. However, unlike most other species of humans, for the pajit, cutlery, plates, or even tables are entirely optional. Much like when he needs to defecate, if there is nowhere else convenient, there is plenty of room on the street outside. So incredible is the immune system of the that they are even able to subsist off the urine and feces of other animals with no need to cook them beforehand. Apparent to everyone else in the human race in India, these two dishes are considered a delicacy, a traditional meal for a very traditional culture. The practice of consuming urine and feces in India is a tale as old as time itself. Speaker 10: Country rich in culture and tradition. And although India is changing, one thing remains the same. The cow is sacred. And believe it or not, the cow is so revered here that men and women actually coat their heads and faces with cow urine. For the Hindus of Northern India, the cow is not a typical farm animal. These bovine represent motherhood, and their milk sustains and nourishes them. But in this case, it's not the milk these men and women are waiting for. It's the urine. Known as a secret gift from Macau, the urine is commonly sprinkled in the home to protect the surroundings. Speaker 11: We sprinkle for purify our house and keep away evil. Speaker 10: But this unusual practice doesn't stop there. These men actually rub cow urine into their hair. Some even splash it right on their face. Speaker 6: I begin my day splashing some of it in my eyes, my head, and consuming a little. It is, you know, one of the finest things one can have. Speaker 10: And this extreme form of worshiping is not a passing fad. It's been around for centuries. Speaker 6: I have been consuming the cow urine for many, many years today. Speaker 10: Surprisingly, cow urine is even used by residents as a form of medical treatment. Locals believe it cures anything from liver disease to obesity and cancer. Speaker 0: In India, the cow is seen as holy, and it forms a vital and integral part of the pajeet's ecosystem. A crime to eat the cow itself, Pagit's abhor beef. But they make wide scale use of the products the cow produces, especially its feces. More than just a quick meal, consuming the dung of the Indian cow is also a form of worship for the pajit. To him, there is no higher honor than receiving this blessing from a creature of such divinity. The vast majority of people would recoil in horror at the thought of consuming any type of feces. But for the pajit, this is a daily practice. Much like the cow itself, the dung of the creature forms an indispensable part of the pajit's ecosystem, and without it, it is unlikely that he would survive. Not just a source of food, the cow's dung carries a much greater significance in India. Found in great abundance, India's rich and seemingly inexhaustible supplies of cow dung play an important part of the pajit's everyday life. Almost as important as oxygen or water, the pajit needs access to this material to exist in even the most basic fashion. Speaker 11: We Indian believe that, 33 types of gods that are, in the cow's body. This is the bodies of, wealth that is Lakshmi. She's staying here at the place where cow dung comes out. So in a way, there is wealth in the cows Speaker 7: from which the clinic cows from which the clinic makes health and beauty products. Speaker 5: This is a cow dung. It all gives a very good soothing effect on the skin. Speaker 7: These sacred stones are used to produce cosmetic must haves like cow tongue soap. Speaker 5: We had been receiving phone calls from beauty balers from Canada and many places. Speaker 7: And the poop piece de resistance, a product to test the fate of the most devoted bovine devotee, cow dung tooth powder. Speaker 5: This tooth powder want to be very, effective and completely protect from diarrhea. So Speaker 7: if gum disease is your problem, a scoop of poop might be the solution. Speaker 0: Much of India's vast wealth can be found in its seemingly limitless supply of readily available feces. In a landscape as polluted and devastated by the ravages of the pajit's proclivity to consume and destroy all around it, the dung of the Indian cow is the adhesive that holds it all together. Without this plentiful bounty, India itself would cease to function. With all these things, there is one overriding principle. Nature is our greatest ally and our biggest inspiration. We just have to do what nature has always done. It worked out the secret of life long ago. In this world, a species can only thrive when everything else around it thrives too. For the pajits of India to thrive, the cow must also thrive. The dung is their most sacred and valuable resource. The country of India known as Parat, land of the, home of the cow dung. Whoever controls the cows controls the dung. Whoever controls the controls the dung. Whoever controls the dung controls India. Not just a food source. The dung serves as fuel, a building material, a toothpaste, and a soap. Their fates forever entwined with feces in a symbiotic fashion. To the Pajeets of India, cow dung represents very life itself. Much like a dung beetle, the pajit jealously hoards its stocks of feces. With this supply, they can endure any hardship. They want not for food, energy, or even shelter. In India, everything is dung, and dung is everything. There has probably never been a more poignant love affair in all of nature's history than that between the pajit and his dung. India is resplendent in its natural beauty. The sights, the smells, and sounds are a sight to behold, a true triumph of life in all of its majesty. Houses made of sticks and animal feces in all their simplicity, an enduring testament to the necessary relationship between a and his dung, perfectly sustainable and radically advanced. With this technology, India will travel to the stars. Perhaps even more prominent than the giant mounds of trash that scar the landscape, fecal matter is the greatest symbol of India. At the end of the day, feces represents all the finest qualities of the pagids. It is their most defining characteristic and the one they are most well known for. Never more relaxed than he is when covered in feces. This is the pajit in his natural environment. Away from the endless trash and smog of the cities, here in his tub of feces, the pajit wallows like a hippopotamus in the wilds of Africa. This is his element. From this tub, immersed in what he holds most dear in the world, cow dung, he is able to finally relax. No more is he worried about his low IQ or the depressing size of his woefully small reproductive organs. From this vantage point, he can see the entire world laid bare before him. For the first time in a while, he allows his mind to drift to thoughts of becoming the CEO of an information technology company like Microsoft or Google or perhaps even the prime minister of Britain. It is in tubs of feces such as these, the male of the pajit species will spend the most important parts of his life. A social venue and a forum for him to voice his ideas. From here, he can decide which western country he wants to move to to spread his unique form of filth and stench to the greater world. Even though he is often told otherwise, he believes his way of life would be a benefit to other countries, but not to India, for there is nothing else for him to do here. In his mind, India is already a superpower, and he must migrate elsewhere if he is to find a willing mate and spread his genes. With his impulsive need to procreate with a woman, willing or otherwise, the Pajit often decides to leave his homeland of India and travel to other parts of the world. Although he considers India the greatest country to ever exist, the Pajit invariably moves to a western country. Why Pajits migrate in this manner is a mystery of nature. Unable to stand out from the crowd by staring creepily, the pagit was unable to attract the attention of females from other human species who visited his homeland. Females who visit India in such a manner often fear being raped. Rape is the primary method the male of the pajit species uses to secure a partner. Once he decides to begin the long journey outside of his native homeland after being rejected by all 700,000,000 women in India, the pajit sets his mind to attempting to attract a mate. Unimpressed by his crude courtship ritual, the female quickly flees. Never one to take no for an answer, the pajit sets forth on his long migration to find a mate. Many pajits fail in this task, but with his powerful sense of delusion, he believes he will be successful. Speaker 3: Hi. Speaker 1: How are you? Speaker 5: Good. From India. Speaker 3: Okay. Restaurant. Thank you. Okay. Speaker 1: Mission failed. We'll go next time. Speaker 0: As the pajit fails to secure a mate once again, Speaker 3: What the fuck? Time to go home. Hi. Hi. Bye bye. Oh, mama. Speaker 5: Mom, this is Speaker 3: No. No. No. No. No. It's okay. Yeah. Where My my it's all there. Jason? Jason? Yeah. Yeah. My my house is there. Sunset. No. No. No. No. No. No. Speaker 5: Home. Home. Speaker 3: Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Over there. Okay. Okay. Bye. Speaker 0: Again and again, these scenes play out in brutal fashion across the known world, but the pajit has developed an almost trademark breeding strategy. He does not require the female to be willing, Speaker 3: Listen. Listen. Speaker 0: Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. Speaker 3: Oh, please. Oh, please don't hold my arm or whatever. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. I have to take for MRT. Oh, MRT. I have to take MRT. Listen. Listen. Speaker 0: Listen. I have Speaker 3: I have to take Speaker 0: I'm I'm not alone. Speaker 3: I'm not alone. I'm not alone. You. Alone. Speaker 0: So very close, but foiled by the presence of a more masculine male from the Asian variety of human, the pajit once again failed to achieve copulation, but he never stops trying. In search of vulnerable females, he migrates to America. Here, he may find more success. Speaker 3: Who the fuck are you? Get off my car. Mom? Yes. Get out of here. Please. Help Speaker 5: me out. Speaker 1: Do you Speaker 3: want me to beat you up? Speaker 1: There's a place fucked. Please. Speaker 3: There's a what? Stop being Do you want me to Speaker 1: Fuck. Fuck. Speaker 3: Fuck. Hey. Get the fuck away from my fucking house. Get the fuck out. Speaker 0: Met with failure once again, he never gives up. The Pajit must rape at any cost. Speaker 3: And he says, I'm sorry for everything, and we talk to his friends and everything's okay. All of a sudden today, I'm getting he was like, where are you? Speaker 5: Where are you? Speaker 3: What are you doing? He was looking for me for 2 days and, like, calling different places trying to find out where I was. He looking in parking lots for my car. Okay. Speaker 0: I think Speaker 3: places where things I'd be. And he finds my car, and I guess today is when we put a GPS tracker on my car. Speaker 12: Planes you put a GPS on. Speaker 3: That's what he told me. He said it's either it's on the left side tires. I don't know which tire it's under, but he said it's like a magnetic device that's stuck under my car. Speaker 0: You have Speaker 13: just seen the introduction of a disturbing case of stalking. A girl whose identity is protected called the police, as she has been the victim of a sick game by a stalker for some time. She reached her breaking point when the suspect told her he was tracking her using GPS and that's where our case begins. While one officer was having a conversation with her, another was very successful in promptly locating the suspect and began questioning him about the situation. Speaker 12: Hello. Hey. How are you? Good. How are you? Good. My name is officer Wenham with the Johnson Police Department. I don't know. What what what's going on today? Speaker 6: I just wanted to see where she was, and Speaker 1: I'm trying to meet her. Who Speaker 12: what's your relation together? Speaker 6: We had me and Speaker 1: I was for 2 years. Speaker 12: You guys are so you guys are like friends? Speaker 6: Yeah. Kind of like friends. I'm a girlfriend. But so that's what I did. And I said I would never contact you again. I destroyed the device. Please, this one time, let me go because I I'm, like, a I'm a student. So this is a one time. Speaker 12: Alright. At this time, you're under arrest for Unlocked. For unlawful surveillance. Okay. Alright. Ramesh, we're gonna step back to the front of my car. Okay? Because now you're in handcuffs and you're you're under arrest, I'm gonna I'm gonna search you. Speaker 0: Foiled once again by the variant of human known as the police, his mating strategy is not without risk. But the pajit's attempts to find a partner are not always so unsuccessful. Sometimes, the pajit can find more success in groups. In a breeding method often employed in nature by the Malar duck, colloquially termed gang rape, the Pajeets of India often find more success. In a recent example of this amazing natural phenomenon, a group of 7 pajits managed to overpower the husband of a female tourist before forcibly breeding with his partner. Speaker 4: Because that's how they do in the India. That's a thing. It's what they had to deal with. Gang Indian men gang rape. It's sad and it's savage and because Indian men are not strong enough to rape by themselves. It's it's physiology or it's sociology. It's it's fucking science. You get your GED and come debate me, but it's it's true. Indian men don't have the upper body strength to pin and submit. Do you ever see a Indian dude in the UFC? No. You never will. Unless he's a ring girl. That's why they created their god Vishnu with so many arms to represent what it would take for even their god to be able to take a lady down alone. Speaker 0: The Pajit is ever innovative in methods he will use to spread his ever increasing numbers across the globe. Falling short in attractiveness or the size of his reproductive organs, the pajit has developed many ruses to isolate vulnerable females to rape. We can see this breeding strategy employed again and again in nature. Using an exploit known as the student visa, the pajit travels to distant lands. In a cunning ruse, he masquerades as an Uber driver to isolate women alone in his rental car. There, he is free to exercise his unique breeding strategy without interruption. Unfortunately, not all of his chosen mates survive this harsh style of breeding. And if things go wrong, the pajit can quickly return to India in an attempt to escape consequences. Few variants of humans are able to survive the squalid conditions of his native habitat in India, and even fewer would choose to willingly pursue the pajit into his sacred dung heaps to detain him for what some may call a terrible crime. Although others of the human species often look down on the mating strategy used by the Pajits of India, the Pajits themselves see nothing wrong with this. However, this is not the only mating strategy the Pagit employs to find a partner. In a stunning example of adaptability, the pagit is one of the few known creatures on earth today that engages in cross species breeding. Here, we can observe a pajit in the wild clumsily trying to copulate with one of his holy bovines. Perhaps due to the small size of his reproductive organs, the cow doesn't seem to notice it is being raped. These attempts at cross species breeding by the pajit in his homeland of India have been documented many times for posterity. These archives serve as a valuable resource for all who seek to understand the pajit and his behaviors. Speaker 14: In a horrific case which has been reported in Gurgaon, Maharashtra, a man was arrested by police for allegedly raping a straight female dog and forcing her to have an oral sex with him. Him. Identified as 20 year old Munmun Kumar, the accused was employed at a food outlet at the time of the arrest on Wednesday. Kumar was produced before court on Thursday and demanded in police custody till August 26. It was brought to tension of an animal right activist by a group of students who were visiting friends in Khargar Sector 4 area. Upon witnessing the accused penetrating the stray dog and forcing it to have oral sex with him, the student recorded a video and uploaded the scene on the Internet. Speaker 0: It is unknown why the Pajits of India engage in this practice. Many other species of human would find it most bewildering. This method of breeding, although rape, would not be able to produce any offspring for the pajit. Seemingly, the pajit's instinct to rape defies any type of common sense. Speaker 9: In a shocking incident that took place in Kolkata, a person named Kamlesh raped a female stray dog in his house in Lake Town. He got caught, red headed net by locals during the act. Kamlesh, resident of Laketown, did this heinous act after kidnapping female stray dog when his wife and children were not in town. Lake town police station, Sumoto lost FIR against him and he was arrested further. News desk. Speaker 0: With such an abundance of stray dogs prevalent in India, the pajit has no problems obtaining a mate when he looks outside of his own species. Perhaps scorned by human females and unable to breed otherwise, the Pagit's solution to his dilemma is to find the nearest lone animal. In this aspect, he displays his cunning nature, Able to take down defenseless creatures on his own, he does not need to share the spoils of his rape with a gang of other pajits. Stray dogs are one of the pagits' favorite animals to cross breed with, but he does not just limit his rightful jaunts to dogs alone, known to also mate with cows, lizards, and even chickens. The pajit is just as omnivorous in his lovemaking as he is with his dietary habits. Nature is a cruel mistress, and the pajit may seem callous in his attempts to breed. However, in the bigger scheme of life, the stray dog eventually gets the last laugh. The pajit is often mocked by other races of human for these crossbreeding habits, and some may say rightfully so. But with his thick and rugged shield of cope and delusion, The pajit is unable to ever acknowledge any wrongdoing on his own part. In his mind, any action he carries out can merely be explained away by referencing past grievances for the imagined wrongs he claims others have perpetuated against him. In one of the most spectacular displays of Pu's third law ever witnessed in nature, the Pajits of the Indian cyber defender Telegram channel, perhaps the most delusional Pajits of all, posted furiously from their slum computers on the website formerly known as Twitter, spamming a handle that asked what is wrong with India with pictures and new stories of people from other races of humanity engaging in similar practices to those of the pajit himself. They believe by doing this, it absolves them of any responsibility for their actions. However, objectively, it does not. Anyone with an IQ over 80 would realize this simple The pajit's proclivity for cross species breeding is not without danger. Perhaps the weakest of any race of human, the pajit is not the top of the food chain in his native homeland of India. Many other animals are significantly stronger and more intelligent. Every time the pajit attempts to copulate with one of these animals, he places himself at great risk. Roaming bands of monkeys, leopards, tigers, and the mighty Indian elephant all work in concert to defend themselves from the sexual predation of the tajit. Monkeys, their territory often much cleaner than that of the himself, work together to drive away pajit's attempting to copulate with them. Even bears long farm for their delicious feces in India often wander into towns to attack the pajits in the midst of their hive. Leopards, ever opportunistic, stalk the hallways of schools looking for young, pajit children to cull from the pack before they become old enough to breed. Severely outmatched. Even in groups, the pajits cannot offer any contest to the mighty leopards of India. The Indian elephant, majestic in all its glory, can smell a pajit from miles away. The powerful Indian tiger, never one to be raped, makes easy work defending itself from the pajit. After toying with him, it takes him away to consume his corpse in a similar manner to the stray dogs of India. However, of all the myriad of creatures in India, there is one that towers above all others, a super predator that knows no peer. When faced with such incredible power, the most the pajit can do is cower in awe before his imminent death. The train. The mighty war cry of this creature strikes terror into the heart of every pajit. His senses dulled from years coping in delusion. The pajit has no way to detect this monster coming. When the pajit ventures out for his thrice daily journey to his ritual defecation grounds, he is at constant risk of being attacked by trains. Silent and deadly, they can strike at any time. With his limited IQ, he is unable to draw a mental association between trains and their tracks. So he has no idea where a train might appear. From the second he leaves his slum dwelling, his life is in constant danger. Some pajits attempt to fight the train and drive it away from their sacred dung stockpiles, but they are no match against such an unstoppable force of nature. With no visual cues, no warning signs, no idea where or when a train will appear, and no ability to detect the train coming, the pajit is easy prey for this majestic predator. Again and again, the train silently stalks the forests and jungles of India, taking down its prey. Virtually invisible in the dense jungle, the pajit has no way to dodge the lightning fast attacks of this master predator. Like an eagle, it focuses on the pejib from high above, swooping to snatch him away for an easy meal. Unstoppable, undetectable, and almost invisible to the naked eye, the mighty train stalks across India, leaving a trail of carnage and confusion in its wake. Pajits gather on cold nights around the fires of their trash heaps and tell their offspring stories of this mythical beast, the train, the stuff of nightmares. But even in their wildest tales, they cannot adequately describe the beast. No living has ever seen a train in the flesh. By the time the realizes the train is coming for him, he is already dead. Such a ruthless and efficient predator of the Pagit. In greater numbers, the train could single handedly bring the population of down to a more tolerable level overnight. Sadly, these solitary creatures rarely find time to mate with a partner. They must feed constantly to meet their caloric requirements. They hunt the pajit 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, leaving a trail of death and gore in the wake their endless hate and bloodlust. Having secured its kill, The train carries the now dead Pagit back to its nest high in the trees of the surrounding jungle. There, it will feed on the Pagit's corpse much like a stray dog. Completely and utterly emasculated before such inexorable and devastating power and often unable to breed with any human female, the Pajits of India adapt to their harsh surroundings. When hunted day and night by the train and rejected by all manner of females across most species, the Pagit is capable of becoming a female himself. In a startling transformation, the male of the party species is able to change its gender at will. In a manner more colloquially termed truning out, the pajit leaves his pupil state and spreads the wings of his neovagina in flight from his heterosexuality. In India, this pivotal moment in the life of every pajit is known as becoming a Hijra. In another stellar example of Pu's second law observed in the wilds of India, the pajit will mass a raid online, pretending to be a different species of human from another country. There, he will insist that this practice is only seen in the western parts of the globe and does not occur in India. Although he believes this concealment of his ability to change gender at will is a cunning ploy, using methods such as VPNs and meme flags to spread misinformation amongst other species of human about his true gender. In many cases, he is easily caught during these desperate acts of cope. Although he claims the west invented this transsexual gender swapping ability and that it is only ever observed in the west. Anyone with an internet connection can easily confirm the falsehood of these statements. The Hijra, who some may say will never be a real woman, have existed in great numbers in India since the early 13th century. Today in India, there are more Hijra than the entire population of most countries on earth. India is incredibly gay. The secret of their large and ever increasing numbers, the Pajits are able to breed amongst themselves to birth offspring. This covert and often denied method is how the Pajits of India are able to reproduce. A masterstroke of evolution and a symbol of the true genius of nature, in this method of homosexual reproduction, the pajit is able to carry on the legacy of his species. Often seen in nature displaying the traditional courtship dance of his kind, the pajit spreads his plumage and struts around like some feces covered peacock to attract prospective breeding males for copulation. Afterwards, he discards the trash of his Tim Hortons coffee cup on the ground. Then he retires to his slum dwelling to consummate his relationship. If he cannot secure another male to mate with, the pajit is able to produce offspring with his own grandfather. After venturing outside to lay his now fertilized eggs onto his nearby defecation streets, they quickly hatch where they are formed by any Indian females into their new son, Pajit. The cycle of life continues. A true miracle of nature, the Pagit's reproduction, resplendent in all its glory. His legacy secured. The newborn, Pajit, quickly grows, spreading trash and feces around himself at an exponentially increasing rate. Once fully grown, he has developed all the skills he needs to thrive in adulthood. With an IQ too low to produce anything of value and physically incapable of doing any type of hard labor due to his small and rather unimpressive stature. The Pajits of India have evolved a fascinating method of securing the income required to sustain and perpetuate their existence. Born with an incredible sense of delusion, the pajit employs this ability to its fullest in his life's work, the scam. Speaker 3: Steve, I I I I'm gonna go ahead and I'll do this for you, and you don't have to send me the picture of your agreement until afterwards if that makes you feel more comfortable. Speaker 1: I knew this. You can send Speaker 3: me you can send me the picture whenever you whenever you want. You know, maybe, whenever it's more convenient for you if after we do this. Okay? Speaker 1: Hey, you bitch. Hey, you bitch. Hey. Do you listen to me? Do you listen to me? Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a $100. I'm taking a a $100 away from you. I told you not to use Speaker 1: it anymore. Not redeeming. Okay? Redeem. Do not redeeming. Do not redeem the card. What? Do not redeem the cards. Speaker 3: Yes. I'm redeeming the cards. I'm redeeming the cards. Speaker 1: Okay? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Speaker 0: From large scam call centers in New Delhi and Mumbai, the pajit practices his craft. Preying on vulnerable grandmothers from other races of human, the pajit is able to use his impressive lying and coping abilities to steal vast amounts of money from his unsuspecting victims. Constantly trying to scam everyone else on earth every single day, the scamming of India have a singular goal in mind. They use the money from their scams to obtain fake university degrees. Armed with these degrees, they use their powerful sense of delusion to con unsuspecting people from other races of human into granting them their most prized possession, the student visa. After obtaining their coveted student visa, the Pajits of India migrate in large numbers to spread their way of life across the known world. Once established in significant enough numbers, they begin terraforming the lands around them to one much more favorable to their own sensibilities. The dream of every is to spread his seed over the entire face of the earth and turn everything as far as the eye can see into India. Without sufficient numbers of their main predator, the train to keep their numbers in check, the Fujits are turning this dream into a reality before our very eyes. Even now, countries such as Canada have been almost entirely consumed by the migrating herds of pajits. With their low IQs and no actual university education, these so called skilled migrants are incredibly unskilled indeed. Every day, with bewilderment and a rightful sense of amusement, the rest of the many races that make up humanity today laugh until they cry at the attempts of the to convince others he is a skilled engineer. Seemingly unable to invent cutlery and still yet to discover toilets, a technology widely employed by literally everyone else. The Pajit's claims of being skilled engineers are perhaps even more ridiculous than the attempts of his Pajit Hijra brethren to convince others they are real women. Virtually nobody on earth believes either of these claims, for they are blatantly false as anyone with eyes can clearly see. Perhaps not content to just pretend to be mere skilled engineers displaying the full extent of his delusions and inferiority complex, the Pagit also enjoys pretending to be a skilled doctor. Absolutely terrible at being doctors and with virtually no understanding of medicine whatsoever. In this disguise, we see the Pagit in one of the few situations he is able to pose a threat to anyone else. Staunchly believing that urine and feces have magical healing powers, like the famed senzu bean from the anime series Dragon Ball z, the pajit is probably incapable of actually providing medical care. In his homeland of India, he uses the services of the many stray dogs to cover the tracks of his lethal medical malpractice. However, in other countries, particularly the west, he does not have freely available access to dogs for easy corpse disposal. Without dogs, in cases of accidental medical death, the make believe Pajit doctor may be left with no other option but to rape the corpse of his former patient, giving it a traditional Indian send off. We are facing nothing less than the collapse of the living world. The very thing that gave birth to our civilization. The thing we rely upon for every element of the lives we lead. No one wants this to happen. None of us can afford for it to happen. So what do we do? It's quite straightforward. It's been staring us in the face all along. To restore stability to our planet, we must restore its biodiversity, the very thing that we've removed. It's the only way out of this crisis that we have created. We must rewild the world. Rewilding the world is simpler than you might think. And the changes we have to make will only benefit ourselves and the generations that follow. A century from now, our planet could be a wild place again. And with that, dear viewers, this presentation comes to a close. Thank you for watching.
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Post 1: The author suggests that there may be missing information or omissions in the story, specifically mentioning Operation Paperclip. They quote Winston Churchill, saying "History is written by the Victors." Post 2: The author finds the topic intriguing. Post 3: No additional information is provided.

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In Germany, Hitler rose to power democratically in 1933, promising economic and cultural revival. He abolished the debt-based monetary system, creating jobs and stability. Hitler restored national pride, promoted art and culture, and relaxed gun control laws. He implemented social programs like Strength Through Joy, providing affordable leisure activities for workers. The nation experienced a cultural and economic rebirth, inspiring the world. Hitler was described as friendly, charming, and paternal by his secretaries. Germany under Hitler became a prosperous and advanced country.
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Speaker 0: Seriously embittered and depressed by the state of affairs in the Daimler Republic, and they looked for an explanation and solution to their situation. National Socialism was their only hope for savior. With decadence and all the undermining of family values so ingrained in Germany, the country had become an unsafe and unfit place for any German family. By means of a democratic election, Hitler took over the leadership of Germany on January 30, 1933. Hitler is often called a dictator, but in fact, he's the only wartime leader that could prove that he was democratically elected. Hitler said, allow me 4 years, and I swear to you, as truly as I have now undertaken my duties, I will depart. It is not for any reward or benefit that I've taken office, but only for your sake. It has been the greatest decision of my whole life. Hitler came into true authoritative power in March 1933. He took over a poverty stricken, sick and hopelessly bankrupt state, with over 6,000,000 Germans unemployed. All German gold reserves have been stolen by the victors of world war 1 as crushing reparation payments. When Hitler kicked out the destructive international banking cabal, he became the only leader in history to arrest a Rothschild. He later restricted Jewish ownership of radio and newspapers. The Frankfurt School was closed down and its members fled to the United States and migrated to major Jewish universities. Hitler did not want to fall back into the interest slavery of the international Jewish bankers. He, therefore, immediately outlawed the debt based system, I. E. Usury, by punishment of death and created a new mark that was backed only by productive German physical and intellectual labor. After having deleted the parasitical bankers from equation, the German economic miracle took off almost immediately. Instead of borrowing from the banks and interest, the government instead created a new monetary system for the Germans called the labor treasury note. Millions of Germans were put to work and the workers were paid with the treasury certificates. The government issued money was not backed by gold but it was backed by something of real value. It was essentially receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, for every mark that was issued, we required the equivalent of marks worth of work done or goods produced. The workers then spent the certificates on other goods and services creating more jobs for more people. Hitler managed to end the reparation payments from the Versailles treaty. He rebuild Germany into something better than ever and the nation quickly rose from the ashes and healed its deep wounds. The unemployment problem was solved and the country was back on its feet. It had a solid stable currency, no debt, and no inflation. Unemployment went from 50% down to less than 2% in a few short years. After 5 years, Hitler had given 6,000,000 Germans work, and full employment was reached. Crime was almost nonexistent. Unemployment was a thing of the past, and there were no homeless and no beggars. In 1,000,000,000 for the Bankers, Deaths for the People, 1984, Sheldon Emory stated, Germany issued debt free and interest free money from 1935 and on, accounting for its startling rise from the depression to a world power in 5 years. Germany financed its entire government and war operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold and without debt, and it took the whole capitalist and communist world to destroy the German power over Europe and bring Europe back under the heel of the bankers. Such history of money does not even appear in the textbooks of public schools today. The main priority for Hitler was bringing back pride and belief in the German people again. In a symbolic act of national and spiritual rebirth, university students organized a one time book burning of degenerate Marxist literature and books from the Institute of Sex Research in Berlin on May 10, 1933. Many of the National Socialist leaders were artists who looked at what needed to be improved in the world. As a result, art and entertainment now reflected the true values of the German people again, and there was a remarkable emphasis on culture. As a talented painter, Hitler was well aware of the Jewish Marxist influence behind the degradation of German art and culture. Thus, he invented the day of German art, which was a parade held in Munich displaying an appreciation for art and culture. Theaters flourished. The German movie industry produced about 100 feature films per year between 1933 1945. Some of the best classical recordings still existing were made in Hitler's Germany. Actors from all over Europe, primarily from France, Sweden, and Italy, were stars in German movies. Hitler transformed his country from an economically ruined land on the brink of breakdown, civil war, and total collapse into the world's most advanced and prosperous country. Speaker 1: Everybody was in a very bad economic situation. There was unemployment, there was hunger and, inflation, and then Hitler came and offered that he would make Germany as a great nation again, and he would give back our lost self confidence. And I myself, I was educated that my home country was something I have to serve to, and I was, and I was very proud of my country, actually. I was infected, actually, by the singing and the crying and shouting to to greet him, and I felt it was something very touching. And after he came to power, he started immediately to put in practice what he promised, and he gave housing to the workers and employment to the unemployed. And, there was food, and everything was in order again. Speaker 0: It was a cultural and economic rebirth without parallel in the whole human history, which inspired the rest of the world to do the same. Hitler's radical program restored German economic independence, ensured racial security for the people, and diverted the nation's wealth from banking cardinals to the ordinary people. Meanwhile, the rest of the world still ruled under the Rod Shalimar was still in recession. Hitler also relaxed the strict gun control laws of the previous government, allowing the people to defend themselves again. False claims are constantly made that Hitler could take power because he disarmed the German people but this is nonsense. It was the Weimar government that already had disarmed the German people before. Gun clubs now open all over the Reich. A man who lived in Hitler's Germany was Hans Schmidt. He said, to be a boy or girl at that time was wonderful. In the Hitler's youth, the differences between Christian denominations or the different German states did not count. We all truly felt that we were members of 1 body of people, 1 nation. Youth hostels were opened all over the Reich, enable us to hike from one beautiful town to another, seeing our fatherland. Every effort was made to strengthen our minds and bodies. Contrary to what is said today, we were encouraged to become free in spirit and not succumb to peer or authority pressure. 1st May 1933 was made into a holiday for the workers. Hitler implemented the strength through joy program, which was a generous social program that enabled the common man to have affordable leisure activities such as concerts, plays, libraries, day trips, and cruises to other countries. For the first time in the world, millions of workers and their children could access a foreign vacation almost for free. The first vacation cruise were built for the German workers. The favorite destinations were the Portuguese island of Madeira, as well as the Spanish island in Port Cities. Germany was a Christian nation of which more than 40 6,000,000 belonged to the German Evangelical Protestant Church and 30,000,000 to the Roman Catholic faith. About 2 1,500 new churches were built in Germany. Hitler himself believed in positive Christianity, and he regularly visited the church. Speaker 1: What was he like as a man? The secretaries, at least, found him a very friendly, charming, polite, and patient Speaker 0: chief. Speaker 1: He has even a sense of humor, and we never experienced any loud words or something unfriendly. And to me, as I was the youngest, he had actually more or less a fatherly behavior. I actually I liked him, and I felt well in his company, and I enjoyed talking to him and listened to his more or less monologues.

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6 million how many times before Hitler was even around? Perhaps they’ve been hiding history. https://t.co/7ZXZmxC0OG

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In the early 1900s, various articles from The New York Times and other sources mentioned the plight of 6,000,000 Jews facing poverty, starvation, and death in different regions. The articles highlighted the need for help and support for this population. The speaker emphasized the significant number of Jewish individuals suffering during that time, years before Hitler's rise to power.
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Speaker 0: Of New York, Sunday, June 6, 1915. This is 18 year before Hitler ever set up under government. There it is, people. 6,000,000 Jews. The New York Times, October 18, 1918, and the article isn't called $1,000,000,000 fund to be billed duly. There it is. 6,000,000 souls will need help to resume normal life when war has ended. The New York Times, September 8th 1919, and the article is called Ukrainian Jews aim to stop problems. Mass meeting he has that a 127,000 Jews are being killed and 6,000,000 are on power. In The New York Times, November 12, 1919, and it reduced to tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation, and disease. About 6,000,000 souls or half the Jewish population of the earth. February 23, 1920. 6,000,000 Jews. Friday, May 7th 1920. The Fund For Jewish Watsofas in Central and Eastern Europe, where 6,000,000 face horrifying conditions of famine, disease, and death. New York Times, Wednesday, July 20, 1921, 12 year before Adolf Hitler ever said for the government. Look at that. Russia's 6,000,000 Jews have faced an extermination by massacre. The Gazette, Montreal, December 29, 1931. And the article pretty much speaks up for itself. 6,000,000 Jews faced off
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A series of posts question the Holocaust, with references to videos and interviews by David Cole and Ernst Zündel at Auschwitz. There are claims of a myth about Jews being made into soap, debates about Treblinka, and comparisons between American and German gas chambers. David Cole's statements were allegedly threatened, leading to his recantation. The posts highlight the treatment of those who question the Holocaust, including Ernst Zündel's court trial in Canada. The author encourages open-mindedness and warns about potential restrictions on questioning the Holocaust.

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A massive thread questioning The Holocaust. 🧵⬇️

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David Cole Visits Auschwitz.

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Jewish man David Cole interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper, chair of the Historical Department at Auschwitz. Watch this entire video & tell me if you still believe them. Keep in mind, David Cole doing the interview, is a Jewish man himself. Bookmark & Share.

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During World War II, the Germans operated prison and labor camps, including Auschwitz in Poland. The Holocaust, the genocide of 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews, is widely accepted as fact. However, some people question the evidence, citing lack of documentation and unreliable eyewitness testimonies. The Auschwitz main camp is a popular tourist attraction, but the tour selectively presents evidence to support the Holocaust narrative. The gas chamber in the camp is a controversial topic, with conflicting views on its authenticity. The Soviet Union and Poland reconstructed the gas chamber, and there are discrepancies in the information provided by tour guides and experts. The trustworthiness of Soviet evidence and propaganda during World War II is also questioned. The debate surrounding the Holocaust and the gas chamber continues.
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Speaker 0: It is an undisputed fact of history that during World War 2, the Germans ran a network of prison and labor camps both in Germany and in the territories they controlled. Into these camps were sent Jews, prisoners of war, resistance fighters, gypsies, and other people considered enemies of the Third Reich. The largest of these camps was the one called Auschwitz, located in Poland. Those interned at Auschwitz came from all over Europe and consisted of men, women, and children. Those able to work were used as labor for the German war effort. Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviet Army in January of 1945. But that is where the consensus ends. Since the end of World War 2, we have been told repeatedly that many of these camps served a darker purpose. The genocide of 6,000,000 Jews and the execution of 5,000,000 non Jews through the use of homicidal gas chambers in what is now commonly known as the Holocaust. The largest number of people are said to have been murdered at Auschwitz. But there are some people who maintain that these claims of mass murder have never been proven. These people point to the lack of documentation other than the highly questionable, and already partially discredited evidence supplied by the Soviet Union at the Nuremberg trial, and the unreliable nature of the eyewitness testimonies, many of which have also been discredited. For example, many former camping mates as well as American soldiers still speak of gassings at the Dachau camp in Germany, even though it is no longer held that any gas chamber was ever in use at that camp. Still, the Holocaust is an event that has seemingly grown in importance since the end of the war. Taught as fact, usually accepted without question. But how do we know if it really happened? What proofs are offered for those not willing to take history on faith alone? This video deals with, among other things, one of those proofs. One piece in a very large puzzle. The supposed gas chamber at the Auschwitz main camp. This tape is the first in a series of tapes covering my September 1992 trip to Europe to investigate firsthand the sites of the alleged final solution. It is by no means intended to be the last word on the Holocaust controversy, but just the opposite. I hope this tape can begin an open debate that's long overdue. What is fact and what is simple wartime propaganda regarding the event we have come to know as the Holocaust? This is the Auschwitz main camp or Stammlager. There are three parts to what is known as Auschwitz. There is Auschwitz 1, the main camp, a well built compound which existed before World War 2 as a military barracks, and was slightly modified by the Germans when they took it over. Then there's Auschwitz 2, also known as Auschwitz Birkenau, which was constructed during the war as an expansion of the main camp. And there's Auschwitz 3 or Auschwitz Monowitz, a large industrial area where many inmates were forced to work. It is Auschwitz 1, the main camp, which is the center of Auschwitz tourism. It is here that tours are conducted hourly in English, Polish, German, and French. By their own figures, over half a 1000000 people visit here every year, and the place has become a curious shrine, a mix of crass commercialism and religious reverence with a hotel, restaurant, gift shop, and booths selling all manner of video equipment like batteries and video tapes in all formats so that no one need worry about missing a shot of the final solution. This is a shrine which combines Catholic expressions of identity and mourning with Jewish ones, and this has traditionally caused some tension. Jewish groups have charged that the polls downplay the role of Jewish suffering. And while few would openly suggest it, it could be said that in the West, Jews have attempted to monopolize Auschwitz as a uniquely Jewish experience. Already, we reach an important point in our examination of the Holocaust. It is an event interpreted differently in various corners of the world. The Soviets have always stressed the suffering of Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, and others. Post World War 2 Soviet propaganda films often made little mention of Jews. To the Polish locals, Auschwitz is given a Catholic face with all the usual fetishes. The suffering of Polish priests and other martyrs is stressed, and the attempted extermination of the Polish people is the preferred theme. But in the Western world, we get a single mindedly Jewish interpretation with the non Jewish deaths being used mainly to keep non Jewish interest in the holocaust alive by giving non Jews some involvement in it. But we are told that even though non Jews suffered as well, it is the Jews and the Jews only who were marked for extermination. This schism has often resulted in well publicized disputes, such as the convent of Carmelite nuns who took up residence here at Auschwitz against the wishes of many Jewish groups, and the time a touring Polish Auschwitz exhibit was protested for not being Jewish enough. However, at the camp itself, there's more than enough victimization to go around. The layout of the Auschwitz main camp is fairly simple. A square of barbed wire fence surrounds rows and rows of inmates' barracks, a large mess hall, and a few surprises, which we will get to later. Outside the fenced in area are the SS Headquarters, these two buildings, and the SS Hospital and Restaurant. Across from that is the building known as Crematorium 1, the infamous gas chamber and crematorium. Most of the inmates' barracks have been converted into museums, which make up the bulk of the guided tour. The rest of the barracks are used as either archives or offices for museum staff. One barrack, block 11, has been kept in its original state. It was the camp prison and it is now referred to naturally as the block of death which brings up another interesting point. What is shown on the tour and what is not? During the tour, you are shown the block of death, the so called wall of death, naturally right next door to the block of death, and exhibit after exhibit specifically designed to affirm atrocity stories and portray Auschwitz as a death machine, a place where internment meant extermination. But what don't they show you? To start with, a building which could conceivably be called the block of life. A massive disinfestation complex where Zyklon B gas was used daily to combat lice and the disease they carried. These were the real gas chambers, except their victims were clothing and mattresses, and their purpose was to preserve the health of the inmates. Holocaust experts don't deny the purpose of this building. They just don't like mentioning it. After all, why complicate things? Also forgotten is the Auschwitz Camp Theater, the current home of the aforementioned convent of nuns. The last pictures taken inside this building showed pianos and costumes and a stage where the inmates used to put on productions. These days, however, the nuns don't allow pictures to be taken inside. And finally, we have the Auschwitz swimming pool. Yes. That's right. Swimming pool situated inside the prison compound right alongside the inmates' barracks. A beautiful pool with a diving board and starter's blocks for races. To their credit, the Auschwitz camp officials have not tried to remove this distraction. But if you wanna see the pool, you need to know already that it exists because you won't find it on the tour. So, basically, what we have is a tour that consists mainly of tourists who already believe in the Holocaust story and are perhaps emotionally connected to it in some way, being given a selectively edited tour filled with horror story after horror story and ending up at the final stop, the gas chamber. At that point, the tour group is emotionally primed to believe anything, and the gas chamber is like the featured performer after a 2 hour warm up act to get the crowd in the mood. Literally, the gas chamber is the objective proof that everything they've heard on the tour is true, objective proof of the Holocaust. But is it? We'll see in a minute. I went to Auschwitz in September of 1992 to see for myself this place that I have studied for so long. I paid extra for a personal English language tour guide, a young lady named Alicia who gives tours in Polish, German, and English. And I wore my yamulka just so nobody missed the point that I'm Jewish. I figured that way I could ask my questions in a manner that would not make me look like a revisionist. You see, in the past, revisionists haven't had much success in getting answers from the Auschwitz officials, but I would come off as a righteous Jew wanting to know the real facts and answer those who say the Holocaust never happened. For the sake of clarity, not only am I a revisionist, I am also quite proudly an atheist. But my parents are both Jewish, so if you're a Jew by birth, you're a Jew by birth. It's not anything I'd be ashamed of. Alicia, like the other tour guides, had to take a class and memorize a spiel to become one. This is an important point because I'm hoping to show that the people who run Auschwitz, like doctor Frantisek Pieper and the tour guide supervisor you'll meet shortly, teach their tour guides to say things they know aren't true. But this shouldn't reflect badly on Alicia. She only repeats what she's been told, and I'm sure she never had to put up with a tourist like me before. I have over 4 hours of footage of me taking the tour, asking one obnoxious question after another. This footage will be re edited into a separate tape. This time, we're just going to concern ourselves with the gas chamber and my interview with doctor Fronciczeck Pieper, senior curator and head of archives at the Auschwitz State Museum. I came to Auschwitz as a confirmed skeptic about the gas chamber story. I noticed some people critically examining the holocaust is the ultimate sacrilege, but you'll have to realize that I have no sacred cows, and understanding what really happened is important to me, and I'd ask that you respect that. I know from years of my own research and the research of others that proofs of the Holocaust are few. Literally, all there is are the eyewitness testimonies and post war confessions. There is no picture, plan, or wartime document dealing with homicidal gas chambers or a plan to exterminate the Jews. And we can't use the excuse that the Nazis destroyed all the evidence because after we had broken the German code, we were able to intercept their secret transmissions, including those that came from Auschwitz. The key to understanding the Holocaust story is understanding the true nature of the things passed off as proofs. Everything that is used as evidence of the Holocaust also can be said to have a perfectly normal explanation. For example, these exhibits are said to be the material proofs of exterminations. There's the piles of human hair. But what does that prove? It's acknowledged that each inmate had his or her head shaved because of the lice problem. That's not denied. So why wouldn't there be piles of human hair? What about the piles of shoes and clothing? Is that a proof? It's a fact that the prisoners were issued a uniform upon arrival, including shoes. So why wouldn't there be piles of inmates' shoes and clothing? It doesn't prove anybody was killed. And that's giving the Soviets and Poles the benefit of the doubt that the clothes and hair are genuinely from the camp during its operation. What about the canisters of gas? No one denies that cyclone b was used to disinfect clothes and also buildings. Zyklon b was one of the premier pest control agents in Europe at that time. It was present in most of the concentration camps, including those that are not said to have had homicidal gas chambers in them. The typhus epidemic that spread throughout Europe during the war and also spread through the camps called for stringent lice control procedures. In his book, Auschwitz Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers, published by the Klarsfeld Foundation and meant to refute revisionists, Jean Claude Pressack admits that over 95% of the Zyklon B used by the Germans was used to disinfect. He assigns only 5% to homicidal purposes and this from a holocaust supporter. So what other proofs are offered? Well, there's the usual pictures of sick inmates, which proves the groundbreaking thesis that people got sick in the camp. Once again, I'll add that nobody denies the typhus epidemic which resulted in many deaths. Then there's the artwork and the pictures of children. But at this point, it's looking pretty bad for somebody looking for objective proofs of the gas chamber. And some of the proofs they present actually work against the concept. For example, they have one of several aerial photographs taken of Auschwitz by the allies during the war. They don't mention, however, that when blown up, these photos don't show people being gassed or bodies being burned even though they were taken during the time killings were said to be going on almost nonstop. I won't even go into the special money the Germans printed for Auschwitz inmates or the fact that even though it is said that Jewish children were killed immediately, both Anne Frank and her sister were sent to Auschwitz and survived, later being transferred to the Bergen Belsen camp where they are said to have died from typhus. But all this bickering would be pointless if we could see a genuine gas chamber for ourselves. That, of course, would most effectively end the argument. Which brings us to the building I'm standing in front of, the gas chamber and crematorium. Pictures of this building have been featured in book after book on the holocaust. After all, what better proof it all happened? Revisionists don't dispute that this is a real building from during the war. We say that it was indeed a crematorium and a mortuary which also was used as an air raid shelter for the s s men in the hospital and restaurant right across the street from it. The Auschwitz people say it was indeed a mortuary and decreatorium with the mortuary part, which you're looking at right there, later being used as the gas chamber. They also say that it was used as an air raid shelter. And they have, in the past, admitted that the large brick chimney at the side of the building is a reconstruction, which is no big shock to anybody because it clearly isn't connected to the building in any way. Now let's go inside. Once inside, we can see why revisionists have had such a field day with this building. Obvious marks on the walls and floors where apparently walls had been knocked down, equally obvious holes in the floor where bathroom facilities had been. We maintain that, unlike the large hollow chamber we now see, this room had once been 5 rooms, including a bathroom. I should add that there is no Zyklon b blue staining in the walls as there would have been with repeated Zyklon B use and as there were and still are in the disinfestation chambers. A flimsy wooden door with a big glass pane in it. And a doorway with no door, and no fittings for a door, leading to the crematorium ovens. And I should also mention the big manhole, right in the middle of the gas chamber. Yet the building does have what appears to be evidence of criminal usage. Four holes in the ceiling, which lead to the roof where 4 little chimneys stand. It is said that through these 4 holes, ziklon b crystals were dropped. And indeed there seems to be no other explanation for them. Do these holes prove homicidal gassings? Revisionists have claimed in the past that these holes were added after the camp's liberation, and that the inside walls were knocked down and the bathroom facilities removed to make the room look like a big gas chamber. As Alicia and I approached the building, we pass the gallows where the commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoss, was hanged by the Soviets in 1947, executed directly in front of the evidence of his crime. Here, in front of the gas chamber, I asked Alicia about the authenticity of that building. Now let's let's start again talking about this building here. This Speaker 1: Yeah. Rheumatarium Gas Chamber. Speaker 0: But this is a reconstruction. Speaker 1: It is in original state. Original? Original state. Speaker 0: Now there, Alicia has very clearly represented the gas chamber as being in its original state. Once inside, I asked her specifically about the 4 holes in the ceiling. Are those the original holes in the ceiling? Speaker 1: It is an original part. Original. Speaker 0: That is original. Speaker 1: Original in for this chimney was called cyclone beam. Speaker 0: I then asked Alicia if any walls had ever been knocked down in the room exhibited as the gas chamber. So its part was on the gas chamber. Mhmm. Were there were there walls here at one time? Speaker 1: But here, you it was only one room. Only one room that here, I I know here When here I show picture of gas chamber, it was only one room. Speaker 0: So would there be those there ever were walls here? No. Let's pause here to recap the gas chamber according to our tour guide. She states that the room is in its original state, that the ceiling holes are original, and that no walls were knocked down. Unsatisfied with her answers, I continued to badger poor Alicia about the real history of this room. Feeling somewhat exasperated at the fact that nothing she could say would shut me up, Alicia went to get a woman who was introduced to me as the supervisor of tour guides for the Auschwitz State Museum. When I saw this woman approach, I figured I was either going to get a straight answer or kicked out of the camp. Speaker 2: This is what I can suggest. It will be much better to go to our scientist in the State Museum and to talk. They show you a lot of plants, which we still have in the archives. And they Speaker 0: Where would that be? Speaker 2: I don't think that it's open today, but probably in Monday, it will be possible. Speaker 0: That's the the Auschwitz State Museum? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 0: Is that in? Is that Sure. Speaker 2: In block number 24 and 23, I'm not sure about it. Speaker 0: Would it be possible for me to make an appointment to speak to see him on Monday, perhaps? Speaker 3: That's true. Speaker 0: So it was here that it was first suggested I meet with the head of archives and senior curator, doctor Froncicek Pieper. Still, fearing that such a meeting might not come about, and assuming that the supervisor was probably in the loop regarding any reconstructions, I decided to get her input regarding the supposedly original holes in the ceiling. Are those the original holes in the ceiling? They've been rebuilt? Yes. Okay. After the war. After the war. So if you're keeping score, that makes it one vote for original, one vote for not original. I guess that would make doctor Pieper the tie breaker. Now before we proceed any further, a little digression is needed about some genuine holocaust revisionism. Doctor Fransicek Pieper is one of the holocaust experts most directly responsible for the lowering of the Auschwitz death count. Along with other scholars like Israeli Holocaust expert, doctor Yehuda Bauer, it was decided around 1989 to admit publicly that fewer people died at Auschwitz than had previously been reported. In his book, Auschwitz, How Many Perished, doctor Pieper concludes that the old Soviet provided figure of 4,000,000 is wrong, and that the real figure is closer to 1,100,000. Now that's no small revision, an admission that the Soviets exaggerated the figure by almost 4 times. We can also see how the fraudulent figure has been an ingrained part of supposedly factual Holocaust history for almost 50 years. As late as 1988, in the official Auschwitz State Museum guidebook, you'll find on page 19 an official affirmation of the 4000000 figure. The Soviet State Extraordinary Commission for the Investigation of Nazi Crimes stated that no less than 4,000,000 people perished in Auschwitz. The Supreme National Tribunal in Poland stated that about 4,000,000 persons perished in Auschwitz. According to the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg, more than 4,000,000 persons perished in Auschwitz. And these figures are based upon the evidence of 100 of surviving prisoners and upon the opinion of experts. Well, this shows that not only was fraudulent Soviet evidence admitted as fact at Nuremberg, but also that survivors and experts can be wrong. And if it matters, many holocaust revisionists believe that the actual total of dead at Auschwitz is even less than 1,100,000. But still, there is no possibility that even the most extreme holocaust revisionist in the world could possibly revise the figure any more than the Holocaust experts already have. Which rather neatly brings us to this man, doctor Fronczycic Pieper. I interviewed him in his office at the Auschwitz State Museum. At first, he was a little apprehensive about being videotaped. But I explained to him that since I already had the tour guide on tape, giving out what I had now come to believe was incorrect information, I should have a videotape which could set the record straight. Once he consented, I immediately asked him about changes made in the gas chamber. Speaker 3: So first, since all of this gas chamber, which existed in Auschwitz 1, this can go out here. Operators from the old 10 1941 to December 1942. And that's maybe 1 year. Kremmectoid nearby this, gas chamber were longer to the middle of that protein 3. In, July, 1940 3, the crematorium, was stopped, and the parties of the prisoners died in Auschwitz 1 were, from the time, transferred to Bilk ground. In 1944, in connection with the bombardment of Auschwitz by, allies, air forces, Empty crematorium number 1 in glass chamber, now this 1, were adopted as, the air shelter. The tiles, additional walls were built inside, former gas chamber. And, this additional entrance was made from, from this, East Side of the gas chamber. And, openings in the ceiling, the gas side from b was discharged inside where, the time liquidated. So after the liberation of the camp, the owner of Gas Chamber presented the view of a shelter. In order to gain this, earlier view, earlier sight of this this object. It's inside walls. Built in 19 44 were remote with the remote. And the opening is the ceiling were, made, annual. So, now, this last chamber is very similar to this one which existed 1941, 1942. But not all details were made there. So there is no gas type. Those, for instance, additional entrance from the east site arrested as it was made in that part of fall. Such changes were made here after the war in order to gain the the brilliant view of this object. Speaker 0: Were the holes in the ceiling put in in the same way that they were? Yes. In the same in Speaker 3: the same, place because the traces were Speaker 0: Here, I think we should recap what doctor Pieper has told us. According to him, the room was a gas chamber, but was later turned into an air raid shelter. At which time dividing walls were built, the holes in the ceiling were removed, and a new door was added on one side of the gas chamber. However, after the camp's liberation, the dividing walls were knocked down, The holes were put in the ceiling. However, the new door was not removed. I think here there are 3 main points that have to be made. The first of these is that we are looking at a clear deception. As I have shown, the gas chamber is shown off to tourists as being in its original state, even though the museum officials know better. Doctor Peeper appears to be very nonchalant about the fact that changes were made after the war. But if it isn't such a big deal, then why hide it from the tourists? And that's not all. In May of 1992, British historian David Irving was fined by a German court for telling a meeting in Munich exactly what you've just heard doctor Pieper tell you. In fact, Pieper was even called as a defense witness, but the judge wouldn't allow him to testify even though it might have cleared Irving. Once again, I'll say if this is not such a big deal, why find somebody for saying it? Our next point is the gas chamber is no longer valid as proof in its present state. It is not a proof of homicidal gassings unless it can be shown that at some time during the war, this building had 4 holes in the ceiling and no dividing walls during the time the Germans were operating the camp. Which brings us to our final point, the Reconstruction itself. With the information we now have, we can say that there are 2 different views of the gas chamber reconstruction. The first one, the official view, holds that the Soviets and Poles created a gas chamber in an air raid shelter that had been a gas chamber. The revisionist view holds that the Soviets and Poles created a gas chamber in an air raid shelter that had been an air raid shelter. So how do we know which one is correct? Well, obviously, the burden of proof is on those who say that there was a gas chamber at one time in that building. Do they have any evidence at all to support that claim? In my tenure as a holocaust revisionist, I'm sure if there was any, I'd have seen it. I can also add that those questionable four holes in the roof of the building are not detectable in any of the aerial photograph blow ups that I've seen. To get to the truth of this matter, there are some other pertinent questions that can be asked. If there was at one time a functioning gas chamber in this building, why was its operation halted, especially if the Nazis were running Auschwitz as an extermination center? Well, doctor Pieper has an answer for that one too. In an essay published in the Polish book, Auschwitz, Pieper writes that exterminations were moved to new gas chambers in the Auschwitz Birkenau complex because it had become too difficult to keep the gas chamber at the Auschwitz main camp a secret from the inmates. This has apparently become part of official Auschwitz lore because it's something that Alicia repeated to me on the tour. Speaker 1: In spite of, this crematorium was next to blocks where the prisoners lived. That's why extermination was moved to Birkenau. That's why 4 crematoriums with gas chambers were built in Birkenau. Speaker 0: Now let's be perfectly clear about this. They say that exterminations were moved to Birkenau because the gas chamber at the main camp was too close to the inmates and therefore they could know what was going on. But is this even remotely accurate? Let's refer back to our map of the main camp. Now here's the gas chamber right there. And there is the rows of inmates' barracks. As you can see the gas chamber is well outside of the prison compound and is hidden from view by the 3 s s buildings, which effectively hide it from the inmates' site. Plus we're told that arrivals who were going to be gassed would be taken in through here. Thus avoiding any and all contact with the other inmates. This was a gas chamber that could have functioned completely isolated from anybody's notice. Now this is Auschwitz Birkenau in an allied aerial photo from September 1944. These are the 2 crematoriums and gas chambers with the crematoriums above ground and an l shaped below ground rooms that were either gas chambers or mortuaries. And here you have the rows and rows of inmates' barracks. Now the thing that becomes immediately clear is there is nothing but a barbed wire fence hiding the inmates' barracks from the gas chambers. And this over here was the Auschwitz sports field right next door to the gas chambers. And another thing to notice is not only could you see the gas chamber parallel with the barracks, but you could see diagonally to the one across the way from you. Nothing was hidden from the inmates. Another interesting thing was the train that would come up carrying the doomed inmates, You would have thousands of inmates being marched off the trains into one of these two gas chambers in full view of the entire camp. This was a spectacle that nobody at the camp could miss. They would see thousands of people marching into those buildings and nobody coming out. These were gas chambers that were not isolated from anyone. And, indeed, when these aerial photographs were released in the late seventies, they contradicted many supposed eyewitness claims about how the Nazis had tried to camouflage the gas chambers at Birkenau. I spent several days here at Birkenau and the footage I have, which is available on a separate tape, dramatically shows everything I've just been saying. Frankly, I don't think Peeper's claim holds any water. Another question that should be asked, is there any ziklon b residue in the gas chamber knowing that cyanide gas would in fact leave a residue? In 1988, execution equipment expert Fred Lutcher conducted forensic examinations on the gas chambers at Auschwitz to answer that question. He took samples from the 4 gas chambers at Birkenau, the one at the main camp, and the control sample from one of the disinfestation chambers that we know did use Zyklon B. Now the gas chamber samples showed almost no appreciable traces, whereas the disinfestation sample literally went right off the scale. More importantly though, in 1990, the Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow decided to conduct their own forensic tests to see if they could refute Fred Lutcher's findings, and they did this with doctor Pieper's help. And their own tests got back the same results. So since then, the question has not been, are there any appreciable traces of Zyklon B residue in the gas chambers, but instead, why are there not any appreciable traces? I put this question to doctor Pieper. I asked him why are there so few appreciable traces in the homicidal gas chambers compared to the large amounts of traces found in the disinfestation chambers. Speaker 3: The gas chamber, gas cycle b was operated very short time, about 20, 30 minutes during 24 hours. And in the disinfection rooms. It was it operated, home, day and night. That such was a procedure of using gas and, disinfection tools and in the delousing. Speaker 0: Now let's be perfectly clear about what doctor Pieper is saying. I ask him, why is the residue count high in the delousing chambers but low in the homicidal ones? And he answers because the delousing chambers were used, quote, day and night, whereas the homicidal ones were used, quote, about 20:30 minutes during 24 hours, which would account for roughly one gassing a day. Now not only does this contradict the eyewitness testimonies, which speak of repeated homicidal homicidal gassings going on day night, but doctor Pieper also manages to contradict himself. Because later on in the interview, I asked him how many groups of people a day would be gassed, and he too speaks of repeated gassings. How many groups of people every day were gassed in cream of 2 and 3? Do you know? Speaker 3: It's, difficult to say because there were periods when gas chambers were used today. And and several actions repeated, gassing, burn, gassing, burn, and so on. Speaker 0: And what about the gas itself? We are shown many canisters of Ziclon B gas as proof of the final solution. But apart from delousing, which everyone agrees on, and homicidal gassings, which the Auschwitz officials maintain, did the gas have any other uses? Speaker 3: But also, Tom, the disinfection of the buildings. So there was such a Speaker 0: With a routine for the buildings to be disinfected. Speaker 3: Not time to time. Such agents will cut it out to remove the analysis. Speaker 0: Now let's recap again. We now know that Zyklon D gas was used to delauce clothes, to disinfect buildings. And if you'll remember the calculations of holocaust supporter Jean Claude Presac, over 95% was used for disinfection with only 5% or less used for homicide. This seems like a great amount of effort on the part of the Germans to preserve the health of people who were meant to be exterminated. And I think at this point, we can move on. We return now to our job of trying to decide between the two alternate views of the reconstructed gas chamber. Is it a fake or a faithful reconstruction? One very important question is this, can we trust the Soviets to have faithfully reconstructed the gas chamber? Since there is no wartime proof of there ever having been 4 holes in the ceiling or of any gas chamber usage. We literally have to take the Soviets and Poles at their word that they simply returned the four holes to where they had originally been and reconstructed, instead of fabricated, a gas chamber. If we're going to try to establish Soviet intent, we need to look at what precedent there is concerning Soviet truthfulness regarding the holocaust story. Do the Soviets have a history of fabricating Holocaust evidence or using deception to support the concept? Well, as we've already shown, the Soviets quite brazenly exaggerated the figures of dead at Auschwitz by at least 4 times. But was this simply a well intentioned error on their part? We are told in the Auschwitz guidebook and also by other sources that the reason it was so difficult to ascertain the number of victims in Auschwitz was because the Nazis had destroyed the appropriate records. This concept was also repeated to me by doctor Pieper. Who initially came up with the figure of 4,000,000 people dying in Auschwitz? This was, estimating made by some of its Speaker 3: documents of the camp. Speaker 0: But in fact, the Auschwitz camp death records were held by the Soviets, not released until 1989. These documents were not destroyed by the Nazis. I think we can assume that during all those years the Soviets were handing out their exaggerated death figures, they knew they had these books in their possession. We can also look at discredited charges made by the Soviets and supported by the other allies at the Nuremberg trial. The Soviets claimed that there were steam chambers for killing inmates at the Treblinka camp in Poland. Now, of course, that claim has been quietly dropped. Also dropped are the claims of electro chambers. Most interestingly, we have the Soviets at Nuremberg claiming that it was the Nazis, not the Soviets, who murdered the thousands of Polish officers in the infamous Katyn Forest Massacre. These days, of course, the Soviets have admitted that they are the ones responsible and most legitimate historians knew this all along. But at Nuremberg, the Soviets claimed that the Nazis bribed and threatened people to falsely blame the Soviets. The now discredited atrocity stories of Nazi created shrunken heads and human skin lampshades were also exhibited as fact. And in an almost inconceivable charge, it was claimed that the Nazis exterminated Jews with an atomic bomb. Also presented as fact was the story that the Nazis made soap from the bodies of Jews. Let's examine this one a little more closely. Now the Soviets actually submitted supposed Jewish soap at the Nuremberg trial. But today, Holocaust scholars like Raoul Hilberg, Yehuda Bauer, and Deborah Lipstadt agree that these accusations are groundless. In a Los Angeles Times editorial from 1981, Deborah Lipstadt is quoted as saying, the fact is that the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews or for that matter, anyone else for the production of soap. The soap rumor was prevalent both during and after the war. It may have had its origin in the cadaver factory atrocity story that came out of World War 1. The soap rumor was thoroughly investigated after the war and proved to be untrue. The questions this raises are numerous. If the claim is false, then that means the Soviets were not being truthful about that hunk of soap they exhibited as evidence. And all the Nuremberg transcripts dealing with human soap are wrong. But my question is, when were these charges thoroughly investigated as she says? This is just another case of a holocaust expert trying to make us believe that holocaust experts know what they're talking about and are straight about what did and didn't happen, which they are not. To prove my point, I submit the fact that doctor Pieper still believes in the human soap story. Speaker 3: There were such, attempts of using this, human flesh for for this of soap and acid concentration can't, shoot home behind the desk. Speaker 0: So that that where that was where Speaker 3: it was done. So we're we made such attempts. Speaker 0: Apparently, some war propagandas never seem to die. Indeed, the specter of fraudulent holocaust evidence from the Soviets has reared its head in more current events, like the prosecution of Ukrainian American, John Demyanuk, whose incredibly flawed war crimes conviction was based in part on faulty Soviet evidence. And speaking of fraudulent evidence, some holocaust experts seem to have difficulty explaining the difference between what's fraudulent and what's real. We return briefly to Jean Claude Pressack's book on Auschwitz, a book meant to refute revisionists. Here he shows us a picture of a gas tight door from a delousing room which he claims the Soviets falsely represented to be from a homicidal gas chamber. Yet several pages later, he shows us a door which he claims is a genuine homicidal gas chamber door because of the metal hemispherical grid protecting the peephole. Presac offers this door as a proof that homicidal gassings occurred, but there is just one unanswered question. How does Presac know that this door too isn't a Soviet put on? If we admit that the Soviets went around misrepresenting and reconstructing things, how can we tell a difference between what's real and what's not? In the case of that supposedly genuine door with a metal grid over the peephole, I asked doctor Pieper if I could see it for myself. In Presak's book, he has a picture of a gas type door with a metal grid around the peephole. Is that still around any place? Does that still exist? Speaker 3: It is in a well, not the room of crematorium. Yeah. Speaker 0: Crematorium 1? It's in crematorium. Is it possible for me to see that? Speaker 3: You may go to the director and director in order to offer you. This PC Speaker 0: I very much like to see that. Well, guess what? After the interview, we went to the director's office, got the keys, and explored every room in crematorium 1, and no homicidal gas chamber door with a metal grid over the peephole. No one knew where it went. I guess it simply vanished like magic. So, in answer to our question about precedent regarding Soviet trustworthiness, I think we've established that we can't really accept anything on faith because evidence certified as real 1 year might be considered fake the next. Evidence you are told is genuine can, in fact, be a so called Reconstruction. And if the holocaust experts themselves can't agree on what's real and what's not, then surely they prove themselves hypocrites when they insist that homicidal gassings cannot be questioned. With all this talk about Soviet deception, I think it's necessary to put this matter in its proper historical perspective. You see, we live in a time now when the old Soviet Union has fallen apart, and it's now okay for both Liberals and Conservatives, as well as everybody else, to speak ill of the dear departed Communist state. But it was not always that way. During World War 2, the Soviets were more than just a military ally. Their anti Nazi propaganda was readily accepted by the other allies because it served all of their purposes. It has to be understood that Russia's communists and Germany's fascists had had a long running propaganda battle, both before the Hitler Stalin Non Aggression Pact and, of course, after with the outbreak of war. Both Stalin and Hitler were men capable of and quite adept at propaganda. Yet the vestiges of our acceptance of Soviet propaganda still linger to this day. For example, when we see an anti communist German poster, we most likely immediately dismiss it as paranoid Nazi anti communist propaganda. Yet, are we so conditioned to dismiss a similar Soviet work as paranoid anti fascist propaganda? The point is that we have a hard time realizing that Stalin's anti German propaganda was just as virulent as Hitler's anti Soviet propaganda. And that, as the victors, the Soviets got to commit their propaganda to the history books as fact. But all charges and counter charges made during World War 2 must be reexamined with the 2020 hindsight we now have, the knowledge of Stalin's despotism, and the KGB's history of misinformation and deception. And this reexamination must include the charges of genocide made against the Nazis, especially considering that for Auschwitz, as well as the other camps in Poland, Majdanek, Belzec, Chelmno, Treblinka, and Sobibor, we've had to rely on the Soviets for most of our information. And if the Soviets exaggerated the number of dead at Auschwitz, Who's to say they didn't also do it at the other camps? Why would they exaggerate Auschwitz by 4 times and then be brutally honest about Treblinka? However, lest I appear to be unfair, it should be added that our own army and propaganda department did not sit idly by and let the Soviets After the war, it was claimed at the Dachau camp that people were gassed. In fact, the army produced several propaganda films supporting that notion. Speaker 4: Hanging in orderly rows were the clothes of prisoners who had been suffocated in a lethal gas chamber. They had been persuaded to remove their clothing under the pretext of taking a shower for which towels and soap were provided. Speaker 0: Yet now it is no longer claimed that anyone ever died in a Dachau gas chamber. This is a clear case of wartime propaganda. It should also be added in fairness that it was the British who obtained by torture the confession of Rudolf Hoss commandant to Auschwitz before turning him over to the Soviets and Poles. This has been confirmed in a book published in 1983 titled Legions of Death, which contains the recollections of British Sergeant Bernard Clark who brags about having tortured Hurst to get a confession out of him and of threatening his family. Which brings us back to Auschwitz. It was here, behind the building we've talked so much about, the supposed gas chamber, that Hurst was hanged for running an extermination camp. But can we say now that that was a just sentence, with the main evidence being a confession obtained by torture and a reconstructed air raid shelter? Perhaps you will answer that the sentence was still a just one because of the fact that he indeed ran an internment camp where people did die in large numbers from disease and malnutrition. But then, what should have been done with the American troops who ran the internment camps we had in the United States for the Japanese? Or more appropriately, to General Eisenhower and his troops who ran post war POW camps for the Germans in which anywhere from 100 of 1000 to over a 1000000 Germans died also because of disease and malnutrition. Should they have been hanged too? When does war end and war crimes begin? These questions have no easy answers, and this debate is far from over.

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David Cole returns to Auschwitz with Ernst Zündel.

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David Cole & Ernst Zündel investigate Auschwitz.

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Spielberg's Hoax.

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Spielberg's Hoax - The Last Days of the Big Lie

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The Last Days, a documentary produced by Steven Spielberg, has faced criticism for including unreliable testimonies and perpetuating false narratives about the Holocaust. Many claims made by the Jewish Hungarian Holocaust survivors featured in the film have been proven to be false or exaggerated. Similarly, testimonies from American soldiers who allegedly liberated Dachau have been debunked. The video also questions the authenticity of a menorah received in a prison camp and the accuracy of a film about black soldiers in the war, suggesting they may be based on false information. It highlights the role of Jewish historians and filmmakers in shaping the Holocaust narrative. Despite the hardships in the camp, prisoners found moments of entertainment and freedom, such as watching German films in a movie theater, participating in soccer games, and receiving support from civilians. The testimonies of survivors have been recorded by the Shoah Visual History Foundation, while the Holocaust denial movement aims to debunk false claims about the Holocaust.
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Speaker 0: In 1998, the Steven Spielberg produced documentary The Last Days was released. The film focused on chronicling the experiences of 5 Jewish Hungarian holocaust survivors. It was released to rave reviews and won the 1999 Academy Award. One star of the film claims to have repeatedly defecated and swallowed diamonds for a year and a half while in Auschwitz and on death marches. She also claims to have been selected to have her skin turned into a lampshade, claims she had her tattoo removed by doctor Mengele, and also escaped from inside a gas chamber. Speaker 1: I think that was Mengele that took me out of there. And he just attached me to that gypsy freezer and I went to the gas chamber. And as I was go going into the gas chamber, you know, everybody was being pushed into the gas to the gas chamber. And I was going backwards. Somehow, I was being pushed backwards and I was, like, stuck in the door. And I I don't know. I guess god told me to do that. Speaker 0: Incredibly, another star of the last days also claims to have escaped from inside a gas chamber. This star survivor claims to find evidence that her sister was experimented on in Auschwitz. Speaker 2: I found out that my sister was experimented on, that they were doing some blood tests on her. Speaker 0: She confronts a Nazi doctor, acquitted of war crimes, who denies anything sinister took place. Speaker 2: No. No. Nothing important. No. Experiment. Speaker 0: This black American soldier featured prominently in Spielberg's documentary claims to have storm the beaches of Normandy and liberated Dachau. However, wartime documents prove he was 100 of miles away at the time of both events. The tagline of the last days is everything you're about to see is true. In the following presentation, you're going to witness the overwhelming amount of evidence which proves that the Holocaust documentary, The Last Days is in reality, Steven Spielberg's Big Lie. Speaker 3: If I wanted to tell the story about my experiences, I have to talk through a medium and I found art. Speaker 4: My life today is something I myself cannot believe. It all seems like a dream, and it all places an incredible sense of responsibility on me. Speaker 2: It is my duty to make the world aware of what happened during that time. Speaker 5: Here, I am sitting at a table and there are 11, 12 of us rejoicing life. It's wonderful. Salute. I Speaker 1: just want my children to know where where I come from. I'm planning to go there for the first time since I left the 1944. Speaker 3: 1940 4, March 19th, Germans entered our town. Speaker 6: Nowhere else was the deportation Speaker 4: You were a hunted animal 24 hours every day. Speaker 1: They took away my parents. They took away my identity. They took away my siblings, and I said, they're not gonna take myself. Speaker 7: Oh my god. It's been 53 years. Let's see if it were yesterday. Speaker 5: There is one thing that has puzzled me and has puzzled the world. The Germans dedicated man power and energy towards the destruction of the Jews toward the last day, but it was more important to them to kill the Jews than even winning the war. Speaker 0: Irene Zisblatt broke out on the Holocaust promotion scene in the early nineties after decades of silence. Inspired by Steven Spielberg's film Schindler's List. Her incredible story is told in the last days. Speaker 1: My mother said to me, I rolled up diamonds in your skirt and the hem of your skirt and if you don't have enough to eat, those are to buy bread. They ordered us to, to take our shoes in one hand and our clothes in the other hand, and I remembered the diamonds. And I grabbed my blue skirt, and in the crowd, you know, I just fast to cut the diamonds and held them in my hands, and I had no clothes on my body. They kept on saying if anybody has any valuables left to leave them, they had a section for that. And I held on to the diamonds for dear life because that was to buy bread. So I put them in my mouth. And then when I walked up again, I saw they were opening up people's mouth, and they were looking in the mouth. And but I was in the I was, like, at the at the road of no return. I couldn't give him up anymore because I would be shot. Why didn't I leave him back there? And I had them in my mouth, and I didn't know what to do, so I swallowed them. The whole time I was in the camp through the experiments, every time I was selected, I swallowed the diamonds. So every time I swallowed them, I had to find them again. We were allowed to go to the latrine once a day. And I never sat on the hole because I had to go and find my diamonds. And when the the assess woman walked by the door and she saw me in the corner, and I already had the diamonds in the hand. And usually, I was waiting until on the way back, I would rinse them off like in the mud or if there was no mud in the soup that we were gonna get next, but I had no time and I had to swallow them. I saved the diamonds all the way all the way through the whole everything. And when I was free, I didn't talk about the holocaust, but I took the diamonds and I mounted them into a teardrop shaped pendant because every time I had to save them, I had to cry so much. So I felt that the tears are appropriate for that. And I told my children that these diamonds should go down from generation to generation to the first born girl in the family until I remember the forever. Taste what it tastes like. And you can see their different shapes and their different cuts, and the only thing that I that I'm holding that my mother ever held. Speaker 0: Did Irene Zisblatt really defecate and swallow diamonds for a year and a half while in Auschwitz and on death marches? Irene's original testimony for Steven Spielberg's USC survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation provided me with the answer. Let's hear Spielberg tell us what his Shoah Foundation is. Speaker 8: Shoah is the Hebrew word for Holocaust. And survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation, which I established in 1994, has now videotaped the testimonies of over 50,000 survivors in 57 countries in 33 languages. I consider this the most important work of my life and the most significant legacy of Schindler's List. Each testimony is a window into the world of the Holocaust before, during, and after the war. We must take this extraordinary wealth of eyewitness evidence and use the archive for the cause of knowledge, tolerance, and mutual respect, and we are developing ways to extend its value beyond the primary preservation of the testimonies. The last days takes 5 survivors back to Hungary to tell us and show us in their own words their lives before, during, and after the holocaust. Speaker 0: Here is Irene Zisblad's original 1995 testimony for the Shoah Foundation. She only mentioned swallowing diamonds once on intake. Her explanation from her 2008 autobiography, the 5th diamond, no one had ever asked me what happened to the diamonds. Is it possible that this grim fairy tale about an Auschwitz inmate defecating diamonds is true? Kept secret for over 50 years only to be told for the first time ever in front of Steven Spielberg's cameras? Examining Spielberg's Showa Foundation video archives helped uncover the truth. For instance, this next clip is an indisputable example of how this false witness was encouraged to lie for Spielberg's documentary. Speaker 1: And a lot of people did go to the barbed wire. There was electricity in the barbed wire. Every time there was a transport coming through, the electricity went up And the wire the the the barbed wires were electrified. So it was they they were controlling it when it was on and when it was off. When it was on, people would walk up to it just to die. When they saw that too many people were taking their own lives, that didn't satisfy them too well because they wanted them to die when they wanted them to die and not when the people wanted them to die. So they said, for every person that's gonna take their lives, they're gonna torture to death 5 of us. So, of course, everybody ignored the the barbed wire from then on in. Nobody died at the wire from that from that day on. People couldn't endure all this pain, the conditions, and the hunger, and the and the lice. The lice were, like, as big as my pinky nail embedded into our bodies, and and we were sore from scratching and infections. And so when the electricity went on, they ran to the barbed wire to commit suicide. Then they punished us for every man that ran to the wire. They they took a 100 inmates, and they killed them in front of everybody as an example. They didn't even let us die when we wanted. So they said, for every person that's gonna take their lives, they're gonna torture to death 5 of us. Then they punished us. For every man that ran to the wire, they they took a 100 inmates and they killed them in front of everybody as an example. They didn't even let us die when we wanted. Speaker 0: Spielberg's character exaggerates 20 times from her original story, but screws up and still holds up the same amount of fingers. Her body language gives away the lie. Notice the eyes darting away? But this small lie pales in comparison to her other outrageous claims. For instance, that she was selected to have her skin turned into a lampshade. Speaker 1: And a lot of us were lucky enough to be selected for work. I was selected for experiments. 15 of us one morning were selected. We had to undress outside and we had and and this doctor, this German doctor examined our body and what they were they took us out because we had no blemished bodies. They wanted they wanted people with smooth skin and no blemishes on the skin. Speaker 9: Do you remember the name of the doctor that you ever heard of? Speaker 1: No. It could have been Eichmann. It could have been Mengele. You know, after a while, they all looked the same. And then finally, we got to the 4th experiment, the 3rd experiment, which was they selected the 5 of us and they they again with a smooth skin. And she said, well, I hate to tell you this, but I think that, Ilsa Koch that was taking the the human skin and making gloves and lampshades, that she was coming to Majdanek to select her her her material for the lampshades, and we have the skin for it. And she said to me, let's go back to the barrack and not go not go here. And I said, well, are they gonna let us do that? She says, no. They're gonna kill us, but it's better to die here than going to Maidanek and let them skin our skin. I said, they're gonna skin our skin? Why? And she said, because there is, there is an assessed woman and she is a maniac. She has to be a maniac to do this. She likes human gloves made out of human skin and lampshades and God knows what else she she does. And I says, oh, I'm not going. Let's go back to the barrack. But, of course, he never got back to the barrack and then they never took us to Ilsa Cobb. They took us, but we never saw anybody. So I guess either it was a scare for us or she could make it on that day. So we were They took Speaker 9: you to my Oh, yeah. Speaker 1: And they took us back. We walked because I remembered we went we walked from the city, the 5 of us with 2 guards into the camp. They put us in a barrack and we stayed there, and the next day we walked back and they took us back again. See, they needed us for another experiment. Speaker 0: The claim that the Nazis made lampshades out of Jewish skin was an atrocity lie created by the US Army's psychological warfare division, which was overwhelmingly Jewish. After the liberation of Buchenwald, the American army forced German citizens to walk through the camp and present various planted evidence, including a shrunken human head, strips of tattooed flesh, and even a lampshade claimed to have been made out of the skin of murdered inmates. These so called pieces of evidence were atrocity lies, props planted by the Jewish dominated psych warfare division. Jewish Hollywood film director Billy Wilder accidentally appears in the frame while directing a scene documenting the Buchenwald hoax. Wilder also directed the Marilyn Monroe cross dressing comedy, some like it hot. Zisblatt's big lie about being selected to become a lampshade is pretty damn stupid, but it gets worse. Irene Zisblatt also claims to have had her Auschwitz tattoo removed by doctor Mengele. Speaker 1: They've told us that they were going to take the number out of our arm. We were laying on a on a rusty table alongside one another, and the doctor and the nurse were between injecting things into our arm, like, underneath the the, and that wasn't too bad because it was just like an injection. And then they were pulling things out of there, and by then our arm was swelling, and and then they were and then they were cutting without that except that and and within a week, I think, or 10 days, they found a way to get rid of the number. And we didn't know why why would they wanna take it out after they put it in and why us? Why do they want our number out? Speaker 9: How long were you on the table being experimented? Speaker 1: Hours at the time. And then they would just let us be there bleeding. Speaker 9: And no sedative, no anesthetic? Speaker 1: No. No. No. Nothing. Half of the times we were like out. And when we came to, we were either breeding or they were still digging or or, and then the final, when they, when they found what they were looking for, they ordered the nurse to give us the inject, an injection. And I said, oh, god. Maybe the pain will go away, you know. But it wasn't the injection for the pain to go away. It was supposed to be the lethal injection. And yes, she did give us an injection. And we did sort of got woozy and all of that. And then she filled out all kind of papers and she handed to them. And, Speaker 10: and she Speaker 1: yanked us off the table like this, real fast, when they accepted her paper. And she, like, kind of ran with us and threw us into this room. And there were people there sitting on the floor. I mean, they were like half dead. And she says, don't go near those people. Just sit there. And on the way on the way in there, before she closed the door, she says, and just remember, never remember your number that they just took out, and never remember your name or you are dead. Speaker 0: Irene Zisplat doesn't have an Auschwitz tattoo. She doesn't have a tattoo according to a holocaust scholar, because she was part of a list of transit Jews who were never given tattoos. Zisblatt felt it was necessary to create a horror story explaining why she doesn't have a tattoo. Her entire story about Nazis removing her tattoo is a stupid lie. That doesn't stop her from showing school children her arm, claiming that the Germans removed her tattoo in an excruciating operation. This photo was taken during one of her talks in front of a captive audience of impressionable young American public school kids. Speaker 3: And they would come and tell stories, and I remembered very Speaker 11: often, we didn't believe them. Speaker 1: I heard a conversation with my between my father and another man and he was telling my father what the Nazis are doing in Poland. And one thing that I'll never forget that I heard, and he said, the Nazis are taking our young Jewish infants, and they're tearing them in half by their legs, and they're throwing them in the Dniester. The Dniester is a river in the Ukraine. Speaker 0: That physically impossible story Zisblatt tells of Nazis tearing children in half with their bare hands started as a nightmare of hers in 1994, which became real years later for Steven Spielberg's cameras. Irene Zisblatt also claims to have escaped from inside a gas chamber. Speaker 1: I was just taken out of my my telehealth all by myself. All single. The I think that was Mengeleur that took me out of there. And he said to me, what are you doing here? Like, you don't belong here. You should have been gone long ago. Don't forget I was 13. I was maybe 4 feet tall, and I was in there for how many months already. I must have been skin and bone looking that I should have been in the gas chamber a long time ago according to his statistic, and here I am. But somehow he spotted me, and he went through the tail lapel and, he ordered the block out test to take me out. Whatever he told them to take me out. And she did. She went everybody went inside. I stood out there and she came out and she took me to the gate and they opened the gate and I went out and there was a transport of gypsies coming through and she just attached me to that gypsy person and I went to the gas chamber. But the gas chamber the gas chamber was the number 3 in Birkenau. And as everybody you know, everybody was being pushed into the gas to the gas chamber, and I was going backwards. Somehow I was being pushed backwards, and I got stuck in the door because as you were walking down the gas chamber, the the passage became narrower and narrower and narrower. And when you came to the door, it was very narrow. And I was, like, stuck in the door. And I I don't know. I guess God told me to do that. I hung on to the to the edge of the door and I just stood there hanging out for dear life. And everybody was like past past me. And and everybody was in and I was at the door and everybody was up to the door. It was so jam packed and I still didn't know what they were gonna do there. But I knew it was a crematorium because I saw the chimney, but I didn't know the procedure. So I just hung on to the door. Well, one of the assessment came to close the door so they can throw the cyclone b in because they were all standing around looking in somewhere, you know, and by see it's close it was close to the ground. And the door was like underground. So he came to close the door and they were yelling to hurry up to close the door and he couldn't close the door because it was so full and I was like stuck in the door. So instead of and I was naked. I had no clothes. So that's when they took our clothes away. I knew we were going through the gas chamber. And he couldn't push me in because it was so full, and they were yelling at him. And he was afraid, I guess, he was only a god. So he grabbed me and he threw me out and he Speaker 9: closed the door. This was an SS? Speaker 1: This was an SS. And he and I took the I mean, I ran. I ran up the ramp, and I did I was naked. I didn't know where to go, what to do. It was nothing in sight except barbed wire and snow, and I couldn't go back. So I it happened so fast. I went under the eave of the crematorium, and I laid under the eave, And I hid there. What made me do it? I don't know. Why did I ever think that I was gonna survive it? I don't know, but I did it. And I laid there. And I heard all these screams and all these yells and all these beggings and for and all of and it took a few minutes and then it was quiet. It was so quiet. Not you can hear a pin drop. And then I said, oh my god. They, they, they went away. Everybody went away. Nobody's here. And then I saw, young boys coming, you know, walking with Jewish stars on them. And 1 boy came to open that door that that assessment closed, and he he found me. He saw me underneath the and he came up to me and he pulled part of me out. And he he says, he took his jacket off. He says, put this on and go back there. And when I'm finished, I will be back. I know who you are. Within 5 minutes, he was back. They because everybody it it doesn't take long for a crew to exterminate. God knows how many hundreds of gypsies and and and bodies, you know. And he was bad back very short time. He says, now listen. Soon as they turn off the electricity and the wires, there is a train going to a labor camp and it's going to come in between the two camps. They're gonna put 50 people in each barrack or whatever. If I find an open cart, I will throw you over the wires into the cart. When you get if you make it into the cart, don't make yourself obvious. Do not stay in the front and do not stay in the back. Depart of whatever is going on there. And I said, Yeah, right. You know, I mean, it was so bizarre to me. I mean, how can you ever get out of this hell? And he says, And you're gonna go to a labor camp? And I said, okay. But I knew in my heart, I knew that he wasn't he wasn't going to be able to do that. He has to risk his life. But he was he didn't care because his life was only 3 months away if it was that. So and he did come and he did took me and he brought a blanket and he rolled me up in this blanket. And I was only £60 to begin with. And he threw me over those wires, and I landed in an open wagon on that train. And the train took off, and the people that were on that train never even uttered a word, who I was, why I was thrown in there. They, I guess, just knew that somebody saved my life. And we, this train went to this camp, deep into to a small labor camp that had a factory, and they told us that we are going to fix the machines that make, potato chips. Of course, we never saw potato chips. Speaker 0: Zisblatt writes about her incredible gas chamber escape in her autobiography, The 5th Diamond. Zisblatt writes, I thought it was hallucinating because I never heard of anyone being saved from a gas chamber. Apparently, the creators of the last days actually filmed Zisblatt telling her fictional story, but her incredible tale seems to have wound up on the cutting room floor. However, Zisblatt's ridiculous story actually does appear in the last days companion book. Only in this version, she describes her escape as an actual hallucination she had while visiting the camp in 1994. Zisplant even lies about which concentration camp she was interned in. Speaker 1: The death march is on another map. Speaker 0: She claims to have been sent to the Nieuwengammen camp then put on a death march towards Theresienstadt. But the Red Cross document she holds and documents from the camps expose her lies, proving she was actually registered in the Gross Rosen and Flossenburg camps. Why would Zisblatt lie about even what camps she was in? In her autobiography, Zisplat claims to have been liberated in Pilsen, Czechoslovakia by general Patton's 3rd army. She even claimed general Patton visited her bedside in an army hospital and gave her his 4 star general buttons from his uniform. In 1995, Zisplat claimed to have been featured in a memorable section from the book heroes of the holocaust. In reality, she stole this portion of the book about Jewish girls being liberated near Pilsen by Patton's army and claims it as her own personal experience. Wartime documents prove that Irene Zifflett was actually liberated in Volary, Czechoslovakia over 80 miles from the location she falsely claims have been liberated from. Speaker 1: Later on, we found out that they were trying they were using, drops in our eyes to see whether the color of our eyes would change. That was the experiment. Maybe that's why my eyes are tearing today. I don't Speaker 0: know. Regarding Irene Zisblatt's claims of being a guinea pig of doctor Mengele, I contacted doctor Kenneth Walzer, head of the Michigan State University Jewish Studies Program. Walser claimed responsibility for debunking the story of Herman Rosenblatt. Speaker 12: Why did you do it? Why did you tell such a big lie to so many people for so long? It wasn't Speaker 6: a lie. It was I it was my imagination. And in my imagination, in my mind, I believed it. Speaker 0: Doctor Walser claimed to have evidence that Irene Zisblatt was quote Part of a group of use experimented on by Mengele, the results of which were sent back to Berlin. I asked to see these documents. He called me names. Fortunately, I've been able to get a hold of the documents. It turns out that the so called proof Irene Zisblatt was experimented on is actually the results of a stool sample taken by the SS Hygiene Institute. A diamond free stool sample. Irene Zisplatz lies are too numerous to continue to debunk. What happened was Zisplatz saw Spielberg's fictional anti German hate screed, Schindler's List, and figured if that film could get away with such a false representation of reality, She could practically say anything about her experiences in the camps and did. Her absurd lies got the attention of Spielberg. And knowing full well she knew how to play the holocaust promotion game, Spielberg decided to use this woman to advance the ruthless Jewish holocaust propaganda campaign. This prop diamond pendant and the disgusting story about a little Jewish girl swallowing feces covered diamonds were conjured up specifically for Spielberg's Oscar winning film. After all, Spielberg loves scatological Holocaust fiction. Steven Spielberg provides the quote for the back cover of Irene Zisblatt's book. Spielberg writes, Irene Zisblatt eloquently speaks and inspires today's generation with her personal story of remembrance and survival. Unbelievably, Irene Zisblatt isn't the only live witness in the Steven Spielberg produced documentary, The Last Days, to claim to have escaped from inside a gas chamber. Alice Locke Kahana, abstract holocaust artist, also claims to have escaped from inside a gas chamber. Her gas chamber escape lie is featured in a book currently on most major bookstore shelves. Auschwitz, a new history. The filmmakers apparently also shot footage of Kahana telling her gas chamber escape tale. But for some reason, it wound up on the cutting room floor. Kahana's gas chamber escape story is however, featured in the last day's companion book. Along with Zisplat's gas chamber escape hallucination. Renee Firestone is a former concentration camp inmate, who claims to discover during the course of the filming of the last days, that her sister was experimented on and murdered by Nazi doctors. Multiple times, the manipulative propaganda artist behind the last days begin with Zisblatt, who tells absurd lies about personally being experimented on and then immediately cut to a Nazi doctor acquitted of war crimes. Speaker 1: They took 5 of us and they put drops in our eyes. We didn't know why. They didn't tell us. And they put us in the dungeon. They closed us in there, and we were standing in water up to our ankles, tightly packed, and it would seem like forever. It seemed like it was an eternity. They never opened the door. They never gave us anything to eat or drink. So we drank the water we stood in. We went to the bathroom in the water we stood in, and then they opened the door and they took us out, and they brought us up into the the into the courtyard, and they examined our eyes, and some of the people couldn't see for several days after that. And they took us back to the barrack. And then we found out later that what they were doing is they were trying to change the color of our eyes. Speaker 2: I was hoping that going back to Auschwitz is finally gonna give me some closure, And, I was shocked to find out that it opened up new questions and new doubts. This is the first time that I that I decided to find some records of my family. Speaker 13: Did they just test of blood or, or something medical assessment of, Clara Weinfeld? Speaker 2: I found out that my sister was experimenting on, that they were doing some blood tests on her. And what does this Speaker 13: Nobody Speaker 2: And he said, you know, I really don't know. He says that nobody ever asked me, But there is a doctor Munsch who was the head of this clinic who is still alive. And then I found out that you're going to interview this man and that I may have a chance to ask him what those symbols meant. Yeah. And, yet the I'm sure it's only had this a paper of the comment. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: No. No. Nothing important. No. Experiment about that? 6 months. 6 months. Yeah. 6 months. Yeah. But, he was very evasive and I I became very angry. I kept thinking that thousands and thousands of people died in his, clinic. Speaker 0: Notice how the filmmakers only show extreme close ups of the supposedly damning documents. I contacted both the filmmakers and Firestone's family, but unfortunately, Speaker 14: I was Speaker 0: told that this document was in storage in both cases. Fortunately, I've obtained a copy of the original document shown on screen from the Auschwitz archives. Does this look familiar? It's almost identical to the document describing the results of Irene Zisblatt's stool sample. The SS Hygiene Institute ran routine tests to make sure inmates were free of disease. Renee Firestone is used to make doctor Monk into the villain of the last days. A living Mengele. Critics brutally attacked doctor Monk. They wished he was executed decades ago. On the Charlie Rose show, Firestone wishes that doctor Munk be put on trial. Speaker 15: The Last Days is a new documentary about 5 Hungarian survivors of the holocaust, Renee Firestone, Irene Zysblatt, and congressman Tom Lantos of California. He escaped prison himself because he convinced the authorities that he was engaged in experiments that were enhancing life and lengthening life rather than ending life. Would you like to see happen to him? Speaker 2: I would just like him to I I need justice. I I just want to see him on trial. I want somebody to ask him the hard questions, and I want him to answer those hard questions and to read it out. Really, that's all. He's 92 years old or 93 years old now. I don't care if they lock him up or they don't lock him up. I just want him to spread out all the information that that the world needs to know, the inside information that he has. He's the only one who has. Speaker 4: His candor was remarkable. Speaker 0: The filmmakers knew that doctor Munch was suffering from Alzheimer's disease at the time of the filming. This innocent doctor was demonized in Spielberg's film by using an extreme close-up along with lies about what the document actually Speaker 1: described. Speaker 0: In another segment, the creators of the last days convinced us that a white American, a black American, and even a Japanese American played an equal part in the liberation of Dachau. The only problem is that the Japanese American didn't liberate the main camp and the African American was almost 300 miles away from Dachau when it was liberated. Speaker 16: We thought it was a military camp, a German military camp that we were going in to take, and therefore, we were gonna capture it and capture the people who were inside of it. People were weak. Weak is probably isn't even the right term, but they were emaciated. Some of the people look like they were very old who weren't old. Speaker 17: They were walking dead, is what we call. Skeletons. Speaker 16: A few came out first, then more came out, and more came out, and they kept coming toward us because it was almost as if they realized, and I guess they did, they realized that we were different, that we were people coming to help them. We, captured the German colonel, and, I went back and told him that we're gonna send you back to the to the offices to talk to you. And he spit in my face, Speaker 13: and I killed him. Speaker 16: It wasn't long before the war was over after that, but, those last days, we intended to stop Germany from ever having the opportunity to stand up again and do this to anybody. One day, it was on a Sunday, someone knocked at my door and walked into and and I went to the door, and they had something there's something wrapped up in a newspaper on the army. They said, look. Are you Paul Parson? I said, yes. He says, you know, we've been looking for you for several years. That off off and on various people have been looking for you. We wanted to find you. I said, why? He said, well, there was a fellow who was liberated with you by you guys at the house who remembered you, and he died several years ago. And he'd made a menorah in the camp. He made it out of out of concrete nails and welded it together and braised it together while he was in the camp. And he wanted you to he wanted you to have it. So we've been looking for you to give it to you, and here it is, and he gave me this beautiful menorah. Speaker 1: Liberation was like a present from the world. Speaker 0: Paul Parkes show a testimony provides a unique glimpse into the mind of someone who was urged to lie about the holocaust at the behest of powerful Jews. First off is his bogus story about storming Normandy Beach on d day. Speaker 18: I am conducting an interview with liberator doctor Paul Parks in Boston, Massachusetts. What do you remember about the invasion itself? Speaker 16: Okay, Speaker 18: by the way, when you went, were you still part of a black unit? Speaker 16: Yeah. We're still the 3 65th. Every place you turn, people were there was fire coming across the beaches just like it was sowing seeds. And, I remember I had 2 fellows, one on each side of me, and we hid behind a structure on the one of the, those fixtures they put on the beach to keep the ships from coming ashore or the tanks from coming ashore. We hid behind 1 you know, you felt like if you hid behind a a a number, you know, a bit of saying that that will protect you. Any place you could find a place to dive in, you did. And we went behind this. You know, the most amazing thing, I'll always remember the guy on either side of me was killed and I lived. And I, you know, it's it's it's wild. You said yourself, how could they miss me and they got those 2? But anyway. Speaker 0: After the release of the last days, the Boston Globe ran a series of exposes on Paul Parks, proving that his war stories were fiction. They reported, Parks has also said that he dodged bullets on the beaches of Normandy on d day. However, army records show that his company was still training in Andover, England. Parks' company was not sent to France until 4 weeks after d day. Next up is Parks' fantasy about liberating Dachau. Speaker 18: Were you still with the black were you joining a black unit? Speaker 16: Yes. I was. It was a black unit that was attached to assigned to I'm not sure what they were, but they were assigned to the 100 and 83rd infantry. And when I got down there, you know, they we were I was training them, and then they got orders to move and take this camp. Speaker 18: What it looked like from Speaker 16: the outside? From the outside, it as I remember, it was it was a it was it was not a wall. It was a it's like a wire fence around it. And, there was a big gate. Do you Speaker 18: remember what it said on the gate? Speaker 16: I know something in German. And it later on, the when the prisoners told us that was the name of the camp that we saw. But at the time, we were going in just there was some German language, apparently, that's all we knew. And we broke through the gate with the half track and got inside. And we got inside, there was no soldiers around, but yet I heard firing on the other side of the camp somewhere. It was a big camp. So we heard firing. Speaker 19: By the Speaker 18: way, did you enter from the north, south, east, west? Speaker 16: Oh, heavens. I don't know. It must have been the south because we were we left Munich and went straight up straight up to the camp. I have a feeling it was the south it was the south end, as I remember. But I do know that we heard it firing. So we knew that somebody else was somewhere. But what happened was as we got inside, these people came out of these barracks like buildings with the striped uniforms on. And just in devastated shape, you know, there was just they were oh, god. They they had all kinds of sores on them, many of them. The hair was and they they had lice on them. They were just in terrible shape. So we were trying to push them off of us because I don't know who these people are, and they and they are in such bad shape physically, and we kept pushing them away. And to this day, I'm very I feel very badly about that because we, you know and once I found and the only reason why I found out who they were, I'm telling them, is that there was a fellow who one of the fellows came out who spoke English, and he said, are you Americans? And I said, yes. He said, thank God. And he hit the ground and started to pray. And, I, I stood beside him, and he explained to me that he was a rabbi. And I said, can you tell me what this place is and why those bodies are stacked up against the fence? Speaker 18: You you saw bodies stacked up against the fence? Speaker 16: Yes. Speaker 18: In clad in uniforms as well? Speaker 16: No. They were stripped. Speaker 20: Stripped? Speaker 16: Yes. And we, he said that it was a concentration camp. And I said, what do you think? No. It's a death camp. And I said, what what what are you talking about? And then he began to explain to me what went on there in the ovens, what they were for. Speaker 18: Were you able to see ovens? Speaker 16: Oh, yes. And he explained what they were. And he explained I mean, the most part, buried thing I saw, I think the thing that I'll never forget, was there were these little rows of piles of things that were that were sort of the same distance apart. Them people's gold teeth. That they'd taken out of people's mouths. And that's what he said. I said, what what kind of human being would do this? He said, well, they take them out before they put them in the furnace. I said, it makes sense. I said, why is why is this happening? He said, what did you guys do to cause yourself to get this kind of treatment? He says, we didn't do anything. We choose. I said, it makes no sense. He said, you're right. It doesn't make any sense, but we are being we've been king killed because we were Jews. And as I sat there looking at him, you know, I said, you know, I think I began to understand you know, I think he mentioned something about slavery, and I that's what I hung on to as we were talking. He thought it was a slave camp. That's what he said. And that's why we were going through this thing about slavery, and I understood that. Speaker 18: We were the only one he was Speaker 1: talking to. Speaker 16: I was the only one he's talking to. Speaker 18: What did the camp smell like? Speaker 16: Oh, Jesus. You know, to this day well, the army had smelled death before that. We we did a lot of times. We smelled death. But it was nothing quite like this. Speaker 0: The Boston Globe reported that on the day Dachau was liberated, and Parks said he encountered some of the emaciated survivors of the holocaust. The morning reports for Parks' company placed it some 270 miles to the northwest heading west to France. The US Army said there were no black units attached or assigned to any of the units credited with the liberation of Dachau. Even the US Holocaust Museum said, we're not aware of any African American soldiers who were there on the day the proverbial gates fell. The man who led the liberation of Dachau said, he's a consummate liar is all I can say. Another American soldier said, I think he's stuck in a web of lies. He apparently didn't realize that there are ways to check his stories, and now he's stuck. One soldier who liberated Dachau added, he has lived a lie which was accepted years ago and woven into unofficial fabric called history. A soldier also involved in the liberation said, perhaps he's looking for some gratification, and the Jewish people are trying to establish that the holocaust happened. They embraced an ally in parks to tell their story, and he took advantage of it. Speaker 18: You saw a unbelievable scene in Dachau. How do you handle people who are espousing Holocaust denial? Speaker 16: I've been there. Now that's what I have been. I've I've spoken before groups, because, several, Jewish community council and all these people have gotten me to speak before various groups. And I've spoken before a group of people who said that they didn't believe it. It was all funny. And I said, look. Let me tell you something. Says your mind. I don't have a picture except in my own mind, but I was there, and I saw it. They said, are you sure you were just dreaming? I said, no. I was there. I didn't tell him bye bye. It was because of, several people who were friends of mine, who who are in solid way and some other people in the Jewish community said, I must come out and talk about it. It's been a little longer than 10 years now. He said, you gotta talk about on a solid way. He said, you gotta talk about it and you gotta tell people what happened. And then, there was another fellow who was head of the Jewish community council who also said you gotta tell us, Paul, you there are people out here saying it didn't happen. You and I witnessed to it happening, and I think you gotta sit and say something about it and tell people what happened. And so, they got me engagements to talk to groups of people, and I've been doing it ever since. This is a menorah, and it's a great, great story about it. About 1970 or 71, somewhere in that range, a door someone knocked at my door, and, and there was a person standing there with menorah wrapped up the newspaper, saying he'd been trying to find me for an awful long time, that, the person who made the menorah had died and asked him to find me and give me the menorah as a gift because he was at Daha, the person who made this. It was made while he was in the prison camp at that house. And he wanted me to have it because I had met him there. I don't remember meeting him. I met several people that I talked to, and I don't know what he looks like. But this was given to me, as one of my priceless possessions and prized possessions. Speaker 18: What is the name of the person who, there is a signature on there. Speaker 16: There's a signature which I can't read. I've never read it, and I really don't know. I can't see it. I know it's signed. It's signed right here, But right here by somebody. Speaker 18: Do you know the person who brought it to you? Speaker 16: Don't know the person who brought it to me. I asked him, and he said it's a little real real importance. Speaker 18: Let me see if I can decipher the name. The name is Scheiburger. Speaker 16: Oh, Scheiberger. Okay. Speaker 18: It's Scheiberger. And you you don't know who gave it to you? Speaker 16: I don't know who gave it to me. The man gave it to me, and he left immediately. But it's Schiaberg. Okay. But that doesn't mean anything to me either, except it means that that's the person who did it. And maybe there's somebody in the world who knows who Scheiberger was. Speaker 0: Parks and Spielberg portray the menorah featured in the last days as a priceless precious original, covertly fashioned that of nails in Dachau by a holocaust survivor. The problem is there are numerous copies of Erwin Theiberger's menorah, including one given to the White House. The coppersmith created these menorahs in his shop in Maryland. The question remains, who gave Paul Parks this prop? A mysterious man who showed up at his house and didn't give his name and didn't say who made it? Or maybe the menorah award, a Jewish organization presented parts with on the 41st anniversary of the creation of Israel is actually this replica menorah. Speaker 18: You also have been involved in writing, is it writing a book or a film on, black soldiers fighting Speaker 16: Well, that was I didn't do that. That was that was done by a group out in New York who who did the film, and also there was a book written about it. Speaker 18: What is your connection with that? Speaker 16: I'm in the film. Speaker 18: You're in the film? Speaker 16: Yes. They asked me to come down. I'm in the film. Speaker 18: How did how did you feel about doing the film? Speaker 16: I didn't really at first, I didn't want to, because I just didn't wanna recall or remember or have to go through this again. But once again, several of my friends said it's important that you do it because there's a need to have a balance. And I went in and I did it. And I and, it turned out it was nominated for Academy Award, and it was a runner-up for Academy Award. Speaker 0: The Last Days wasn't even the first fictional Academy Award nominated holocaust documentary Paul Parks was involved in. Parks was interviewed in the 1992 documentary Liberators, which fraudulently claimed that black soldiers liberated Buchenwald and Dachau. American veterans protested the documentary hoax, and one black soldier featured in the film admitted that he never set foot in Buchenwald before the filmmakers brought him there. After a brief investigation, which proved that no black soldiers had anything to do with the liberation of Dachau or Buchenwald, Liberators was withdrawn from public airing. An article in the New York Post protesting Parks being featured in the last days titled Steven Spielberg screws up suggested that the last days also be withdrawn from public viewing. Witnessing the Liberators film, you come to a shocking realization of how the conspirators behind the Holocaust hoax can get away with coaxing dozens of people, Jews and Gentiles to lie about their experiences. Keep in mind, no black soldiers liberated either Buchenwald or Dachau. Remember, everyone you're about to see speak were directed to lie. Speaker 21: In April 1945, American army units broke into the concentration camps at Dachau, Lombok, and Buchenwald. Nearly 50 years later, 2 veterans of the 7 100 and 61st Tank Battalion returned to Buchenwald with Benjamin Bender, who had been imprisoned there as a boy. Speaker 22: You came to liberate Speaker 23: And Sandler, we saw the German ceramic left and right, and this guy walks in. We thought he came out from the moon. Some an angel walked out from the moon. We didn't know to kiss him, to hug him, and we were numb. We couldn't speak. We couldn't move. I can't even can I get it it something you know, it's Speaker 24: I'm sorry? Speaker 23: We couldn't believe it. That's really true that he came to liberate us. We couldn't believe it. Speaker 21: Now a retired high school principal, doctor Leon Bass was 21 and a private in the 183rd combat engineers when he entered Buchenwald. He speaks at Temple Israel in New Rochelle, New York. Speaker 14: I wanna share with you feelings I have about racism and the holocaust. Speaker 25: We did in a one concentration camp. It was near the end of the war, and you just can't describe what I saw. Speaker 21: When his tank battalion entered a Nazi concentration camp, Johnny Stevens was only 20 years old. Speaker 0: Here, Parks is shown as being a member of the 183rd Combat Engineers. However, an investigation ordered by PBS and conducted by a Jewish historian proved that Parks was never with the 183rd, but served with the 3 65th. In the article, Steven Spielberg screws up, protesting Parks' involvement in the last days, the author asks, why was a man who appeared in one film as serving in an outfit to which he was never attached, given a second opportunity to tell his story to the American public. Speaker 14: And I said, sir, where are we going? And he said, we are going to a concentration camp. And I didn't know what he was talking about. I had no idea what a concentration camp was all about. You see, in all the training that I had received, and we had sessions where we would sit down in small groups and discuss why we were fighting the war. But no one no one ever told me what had been going on in Europe since 19 thirties. But on this day, in April in 1945, I was to have a shock of my life, you see, because I was going to walk through the gate of a concentration camp called Buchenwald. Speaker 26: When the American place surrounded all over Buchenwald, the German became very nervous. They started to shoot by the gun machines all over, and we have started to run out of the barracks where to towards the gate. Near the gate, there was a heap of corpses. I almost fainted, and I was found among this heap of corpses just after the gate was broken and the first American jeeps of the general Patton's army division entered into Bru Buchenwald. For the first time in my life, I saw new kind of uniform, but also blackface. Speaker 22: And you came to the gate like a wave, like a rushing river, and you move in all different direction. And the entrance to the gate was covered with bodies, 100 of bodies. People were covered with blankets. Some are still alive. Some are clinging to life. And I recall some of them were leaning on the left elbow hand and stretching the hand to you. Brother, give me your hand. I am dying. And you are crying. I couldn't understand why you you were you were crying. Speaker 14: And one man held out his hands, and his fingers were webbed together with scabs from the sores that came from malnutrition. And suddenly, they began to move forward. And then when they did so, I backed away. Speaker 24: I had to drive her to go straight through the gate because the gate was closed. And when we hit the gate, it went down with the with the tank. And after the tank the gate fell down, we got more machine gun fire. I eliminated had the bow gunner shoot at the, the machine gun nest, and there was another machine gun on the side. And the 50 caliber, I which I shot from the top of the tank, eliminated that. And after that, you know, it was finished. There was no more shooting. Then the people start coming out and still crawling over the burning bodies and smoke and bodies that were shot in this doorway. And they were coming out just crawling over skin I mean, bones. I would call them walking skeletons, really. Speaker 25: I was in the second tank behind McBurnie. He was the lead tank. We saw this gate. We didn't know what it was, and he just said, well, let's go in here and knocked it down. And when he knocked it down and as we entered, that's when we saw these, prisoners coming out looking like skeletons. And immediately, when we stopped the tank, I got out. I'm gonna give him some chocolate, and I'm gonna give him some water. And then when the infantry got there, his captain says, stop feeding them. He said, because you're doing the worst thing, you'll kill them. And he says, there's no Germans around, so he said, well, they might counterattack, so we we left to go out to the perimeter to make sure that if there's any Germans around and they counter attack, we would be there for them. Speaker 27: I went into this building with this mad scientist, they call him. He had every part of a human being preserved and a job on the wall. And I looked at us and you know, looking at this and looking at that, you know. I said, how can anybody do this? You got to be sick, crazy, or something. Just cut up Speaker 24: a person's body, and you preserve it Speaker 27: in a jar. So he also had a refrigerator in his office, where he would put bodies in to see how much coal they could take before death was struck. I guess he was doing this for Hitler as they're going into the Russian front. So then I walked in the back of the building where he had put peoples in to give them the showers and they gassed them. And I just cried and cried. I said, I can't believe what I see. I said, but I tell you this. No one in my lifespan can tell me that it's propaganda because I really saw it. Speaker 0: 1, no, you didn't really see it. 2, it's propaganda. Today, no holocaust promoters claim there were any genocidal gas chambers in camps liberated by the Americans. All of the alleged death camps or extermination camps were liberated by the Soviets. That doesn't stop holocaust promoters showing tourists visiting Dachau, a room with a sign that bizarrely said gas chamber disguised as a shower room, never used as a gas chamber. Speaker 28: It's very difficult for anybody to believe what we had witnessed even though we tell them that, because I didn't believe it going in there that it existed to the extent that it did. But I came away with the feeling that, this was not consistent with what I had thought about Germany prior to the war as the most literate country in the world. Speaker 26: 2 or 3 weeks after April 11, after the liberation, the American commander gave an order to concentrate all the German people of Weimar, mainly elderly population, children, and women, to show them the horrors of the Nazis regime. What did they do in Buchenwald to show them the crematoria, to show them the soap, to show them the chandeliers made of humankind's skin. Then after showing them, and they denied that they knew something, An American black soldier, a giant, with one of his hands took me by both shoes and lifted me up. And the American commander said to the people of Weimar, do you see? This was your enemy. Against this age and this element, you broke out the wall, and all these victims fell in the war of the German army against these children. I looked at him. I was so proud. These shoulders, these arms, you must understand that for us was the same with no any difference, all kinds of colors in the faces of an American soldier. For us, they were angels. Speaker 0: The chief rabbi of Israel who was 8 years old upon liberation joins in on the conspiracy. What's more unbelievable? The rabbi's soap and lampshade story or the one where the black soldier lifts him up and gives a speech. You'd have to believe that this rabbi, who can barely speak English today, somehow remembered every foreign English word the soldier spoke when he was 8 years old. The chief rabbi of Israel's fellow Buchenwald resident, Nobel Peace Prize winner, Elie Wiesel, also joins in on the black liberator hoax after seeing the film. The weasel writes about black soldiers liberating Buchenwald in his memoirs. Too bad the evil liars memory of the film is vague. Weasel writes, I will never forget the American soldiers and the horror that could be read in their faces. I will especially remember 1 black sergeant, a muscle giant, who wept tears of impotent rage and shame. Shame for the human species when he saw us. He spewed curses that on his lips became holy words. We tried to lift him onto our shoulders to show our gratitude, but we didn't have the strength. We were too weak even to applaud him. Weasel rips off the rabbi's story about the black giant, but screws up and claims that the Jews tried to put the black giant on their shoulders. Speaker 21: 30 survivors of the death camps were reunited in New York with 40 of the African American soldiers who rescued them. Speaker 20: See the faces here. I don't think words can describe it. It's just unbelievable because these people are angels to me. You've been talking, ain't you? Just, a miracle. I don't think another miracle could ever surpass those. Speaker 11: They Speaker 21: had never forgotten. Despite Parks being featured in the Liberators hoax, Speaker 0: being Despite Parks being featured in the Liberators hoax, being outed again after appearing in the last days, His racist lies are currently featured on the front page of Spielberg Showa Foundation website. Along with that drama queen from Liberators, Leon Bass. In the short film, in perpetuity, the story of the USC Shoah Foundation, Spielberg tells us about his foundation. Speaker 18: Why didn't you decide to tell us the story of your ex Speaker 8: I remember talking to a lot of holocaust survivors during the production of Schindler's List. How did you survive? Speaker 19: Very cool. Speaker 8: It was one of the first moments that made me realize that there were many, many stories that needed to be told. I wondered how many other people want to speak about their experiences, want to remember, want to return. That's how the Shoah Foundation began. It began as my wanting to continue Schindler's List. Speaker 0: Look who also appears, doctor Leon Bass, reciting his fictional script about liberating Buchenwald. Speaker 14: On this day in April in 1945, Speaker 0: I was gonna have the shock Speaker 14: of my life because I was gonna walk through the gates of a concentration camp called Buchenwald. But on this day, in April, in 1945, I was to have the shock of my life, you see, because I was going to walk through the gate of a concentration camp called Buchenwald. Speaker 0: In perpetuity means forever. They intend to have these lies taught forever. Parks's entire testimony is currently available on the Shoah Foundation's handpicked YouTube site. Doctor Leon Bass was a high school principal. Doctor Paul Parks had a school named after him by the Jewish politician who urged him to lie about the holocaust. Speaker 16: Arnie Salawy and some other people in the Jewish community said, I must come out and talk about it. Speaker 0: Paul Parks was the former education secretary of the state of Massachusetts. Why are powerful Jews such as Spielberg rewarding blacks who lie for them? Why are the Jews teaching the world to hate white people using lies? Former congressman Tom Lantos, one of the 5 holocaust survivors featured in the last days, was personally involved with creating and perpetuating another series of atrocity lies, which led the US down the road to endless wars in the Middle East on behalf of Israel. Tom Lantos's congressional human rights caucus held a hearing after the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq. At the time, the American people were hesitant about getting involved with another Vietnam. Lantos' human rights caucus presented witnesses who spoke about alleged atrocities committed in Kuwait by Iraqi soldiers. It was revealed months after this hearing successfully pushed the US into the 1st Gulf War that this hearing was a scripted hoax created with the help of the public relations firm who shared an office building with Lantos' organization. Speaker 12: Operation Desert Shield, economic sanctions, and other aspects of the world's reaction to Saddam Hussein's horrendous breach of international boundaries have been examined from almost every possible perspective. But very little has been reported about what is actually happening inside Kuwait. Like to call now upon my cochairman, congressman Tom Lantos of California. Speaker 4: What we have seen since the second August boggles the mind. Vast numbers of men, women, and children, yes, children, were killed, executed by the Iraqi regime. Premature infants in incubators were sentenced to die by having the incubators removed, and the children allowed to perish. The nightmarish pictures on the cover of Newsweek of piles of bodies of Kurdish women and children killed by Saddam Hussein's poison gas attack on the Iraqi village of Halabja, populated by Kurdish citizens, is one of the most horrendous pictures to be presented to this world since the pictures of the holocaust 45 years ago. He is now determined with his capability of chemical, biological, and soon nuclear weaponry, to bring untold horror to this region. It is our purpose to highlight during the course of this morning, with the assistance of qualified witnesses, Saddam Hussein's human rights record in Kuwait. Speaker 29: This hearing will set the stage for how we announce to the world what is going on in Kuwait and the devastation which I believe is occurring to this country. In recent weeks, some people have questioned why we as the American people got involved in Kuwait. Some have suggested it's merely for our own economic interest to protect our strategic oil supplies. What we do here today may set the stage, as I indicated earlier, for the next 10 years. Speaker 12: We will proceed with our first witness, the ambassador of Kuwait, his excellency Sheikh Saud Nasir al Sabah. Speaker 30: As you have so eloquently put it, congress Melantis, and described the basic violations of human rights with regard to the hospitals in Kuwait, the schools in Kuwait, and the looting of private homes that's taking place, and the mass destruction of the infrastructure which we saw proudly built in the country over the last 30 years. Today, you're gonna hear, not hearsay evidence. You're gonna hear eyewitnesses who have lived through these atrocities by the Iraqi people. Speaker 12: Questions for the ambassador? Speaker 4: I have a couple of questions. We have been advised that there has been rape on an indiscriminate and massive scale. There has been the most brutal torture of both men, women, and children with prolonged beatings on the most sensitive parts of the human body, the extraction of fingernails and toenails, electric shock, are these the kinds of reports you are getting? Speaker 30: Yes, sir. They are the kind of reports that I am getting, all the above. Speaker 31: I can only ask how these animals can commit such barbaric and inhuman acts and then deny that these acts ever took place. When president Bush likened Saddam Hussein to Adolf Hitler, it rang true to me. Although Saddam Hussein may not yet have carried out an organized genocide against the people of Kuwait, he certainly is committing acts against humanity of unimaginable brutality. Speaker 18: All this is clearly reminiscent of actions taken by Hitler in the 19 thirties and forties. Speaker 12: Our final witness is also using an assumed name. And, again, we ask, our friends in the media to respect the need to for her to protect her family, and we finally call on Nayura to testify. Speaker 19: It's the 2nd week after invasion. I volunteer volunteered at the Al Adan Hospital with 12 other women who wanted to help as well. I was the youngest volunteer. The other women were from 20 to 30 years old. While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns. They took the babies out of incubators, Took the incubators and left the children to die on a cold floor. It was horrifying. I saw and talked to a friend of mine after his torture and release by the Iraqis. He is 22, but he looked as though he could have been an old man. The Rockies dunked his head into a swimming pool until he almost drowned. They pulled out his fingernails and implied electric shock to sensitive private parts of his body. He was lucky to survive. I'm glad I'm 15, old enough to remember Kuwait before Saddam Hussein destroyed it and young enough to rebuild it. Speaker 4: Thank you. You have performed the service of incalculable value. And one can only hope and pray that every American, and indeed every citizen of every civilized country, will hear your story. There are rare moments in history when we are confronted with human depravity of incredible proportions. We had the killing fields in Cambodia. We had the holocaust with 1,000,000 innocent killed, and now we have the rape of the people of Kuwait. You have, shaken up all of us, even those who have, seen horror firsthand like myself. It was, 51 years ago that Adolf Hitler unleashed unspeakable horrors on mankind. And the initial reaction of vast numbers was one of disbelief or lack of interest. Saddam Hussein has now unleashed on the people of Kuwait unspeakable horrors. He's ready to unleash unspeakable horrors to other nations in the area, and it is the responsibility of all of us to awaken an indifferent and disinterested world community to what this new Hitler means. Speaker 13: Tonight, it was the most shocking atrocity story about Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. Speaker 19: They took the babies out of incubators. Floor. Speaker 13: But was it true? Speaker 32: 2 weeks after the liberation, it became apparent that the story was a complete hoax. Speaker 13: Lyndon MacIntyre exposes the big lie of the gulf crisis and the massive public relations campaign that whipped up war fever in the United States. Speaker 7: Citizens for a free Kuwait wanted to get public opinion behind a full scale commitment to liberate their country. So they paid $10,700,000 to America's biggest public relations company, Hill and Knowlton Inc. But early on, their daily polling showed most ordinary Americans didn't care about Kuwait. Speaker 22: At the Speaker 7: time congressman Porter and Lantus chaired the hearing on Kuwait, they also headed a private group, the Congressional Human Rights Foundation. MacArthur discovered a disturbing link between the Human Rights Foundation and the PR firm that was selling the war. Speaker 33: The Congressional Human Rights Foundation literally operates out of Hill and Knowlton's offices, on the second floor of, an an office complex called Washington Harbor in Georgetown. Hill and Knowlton provides a $3,000 in kind charitable contribution of the Congressional Human Rights Foundation in the form of a rent reduction for the office space. Speaker 7: The link between Hill and Knowlton and the Human Rights Foundation doesn't end there. Frank Mankiewicz, vice chairman of Hill and Knowlton, became a director of the Human Rights Foundation. And there are other interconnections. Citizens for Speaker 33: a free Kuwait donated $50,000 to the Congressional Human Rights Foundation after Iraq invaded Kuwait. Speaker 13: Daylight brings only the digging of yet more graves as bodies Speaker 7: Soon, there were reports of mass burials of premature babies in Kuwait dumped from incubators which were then trucked to Baghdad. The Iraqis tore Speaker 13: the respirators from their incubators. Speaker 22: We had to bury many of people. Speaker 7: The story didn't just have an impact in the US. The United Nations convened a rare public forum. Speaker 22: The hardest thing was burying the babies. I myself buried 14 newborn babies that had been taken from their incubators by the soldiers. Speaker 12: Will those Speaker 14: in favor Speaker 19: In Speaker 7: a vote, 2 days later, the UN approved the use of force against Iraq. Within days of the UN session, a report on Kuwait by Amnesty International quoted Nayyirah's testimony to the US congressman, and they put a number on the infant deaths, 312. Meanwhile, the US congress was preparing to authorize military force. Speaker 14: Just that now is the time to check the aggression of this ruthless dictator whose troops have bayoneted pregnant women and have ripped babies from their incubators in Kuwait. Speaker 7: The house easily approved a war resolution, then it was up to the senate. Speaker 12: To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces pursuant to United States. Speaker 7: In the debate, the incubator story came up 7 times. Speaker 12: Mister Dole, I. Mister Domenici, Speaker 7: I. In the end, the war resolution only passed by 5 votes. These are some of the controversial incubators. When the Iraqi occupiers heard the story that they'd stolen them and killed babies in the process, they invited journalists into Kuwait hospitals to see for themselves. But the story persisted until independent investigators arrived on the scene. Speaker 32: We were able to go around the hospitals to count the incubators and find that, possibly with 1 or 2 that had been misplaced, that none were missing. So none of the incubators removed in the first place. Moreover, it seemed quite clear that there weren't any deaths which had been deliberately the cause of the Iraqis having gone in and stolen equipment. Speaker 7: Then the picture started changing. The doctor who gave amnesty the before the Iraqis arrived. The story evaporated. The video news release, the high-tech PR blurb, Hill and Knowlton generated an audio video feast of images for the media, and one of the most compelling was Naira. Speaker 19: I could not help but think of my nephew, who born premature might have died that day as well. Speaker 7: She seemed to be alone before the congressional human rights caucus identified only as a Kuwaiti escapee. But we've discovered she wasn't alone at all, and she wasn't just a simple Kuwaiti escapee. In fact, just a few seats away was her father, Kuwait's ambassador to the United States and Canada. Speaker 30: To care for my people. Speaker 7: Nayira quickly slipped out of the caucus hearing back into the protective folds of her family. The extended royal family of Kuwait headed by the Amir Jabir Al Sabah. How many people knew that she was the ambassador's daughter? Speaker 12: I didn't. I don't know who who knew. I I did not know she was the ambassador's daughter. Speaker 7: When did you find out she was the ambassador's daughter? Speaker 12: Not, this is the first allegation I've had that she was the ambassador's daughter. Speaker 7: Does it affect her credibility in your mind? Speaker 12: I think it certainly should have been known at the time of the hearing. It would have had bearing on what, she might have said. Yes. I think people, members of Congress certainly, and members of the public, were entitled to know, the source of of, her testimony. Therefore, who she was. Speaker 32: If it became known that, it was somebody who is closely associated with obviously putting across a Kuwaiti government position at a particular time when public opinion was very sensitively balanced in the United States, at least about whether or not one should be going to war, it was it was a evenly balanced issue, then it could well have tipped the balance one way that that this was an entire show that was being arranged. Speaker 0: The Canadian Broadcasting Company did a decent job in their expose on the incubator atrocity hoax. However, they didn't dare point out that while the non Jewish congressman John Porter was deliberately kept in the dark regarding Nyira's identity, the Jew, Tom Lantos, knew all along that the Kuwaiti girl who spoke perfect English was in fact the ambassador's daughter. After the war, the New York Times ran articles condemning Lantos for conspiring with a public relations firm to knowingly produce false testimony, which pushed the US towards war. Leave it to an expert, a holocaust promoter, to fabricate wartime atrocity lies on behalf of Israel. Speaker 4: The congressional human rights caucus, if it has done nothing in the last 8 years but bring this one hearing to the attention of the American people. It has served its purpose. I wanna thank all of you. This hearing is concluded. Speaker 15: That concludes this hearing of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus. Speaker 6: The Nazis used Jewish inmates, a special Sonderkommando, to remove the bodies from the gas chambers and taking the bodies into the, crematoria. Speaker 11: As far as I know, there is only 4 of us that worked in the Sonderkommando alive today. And we are the only eyewitness that saw the the whole thing, the from a to z, how the final solution was done. The first week of April 1944, I arrived in Auschwitz. They selected some of the Greeks to go to work on crematorium. Now is my first day there. I don't know what was going on. I saw 25 100 people, all naked, going to the big chamber, which eventually they take only 500 people. They were putting in 25 100 people. So nobody could do anything else by stand up, their children. And 15 minutes later, you know, after they closed the chambers and the SS threw the gas from from these four openings, you know, they open up. What did I see? I see the people I saw 15 minutes ago. I see them all dead, standing up with their children, black and blue. And I said to myself, what's going on? What's going on here? There was a Polish guy that was there before, and I said, where is God? Says, God, God is where you have your strength. There were 4 crematoriums, you know, and they were working 24 hours. And there were a lot of big shots from Berlin coming and watching how the Jews were dying. You know, there was a hole in the, you know, hermetically closed and they were looking there how the Jewish people were dying. You know, takes 2 to 4 minutes, depends where you are. One time, I had 2 friends of mine, very close friends of mine. They came in, you know, the names were Divanetius. And I told them right away that they were going to die, you know. And they asked for food and whatever I had, I gave them I gave them to eat and I told them exactly where to keep themselves, where the openings were so they can die fast. And after they they were through, I took them out and I washed them and I put them in the oven to be burned. Speaker 0: Notice how the filmmakers are forced to subtitle the so called gas chamber restored post war at Auschwitz. This is because it was revealed after many decades that crematorium 1 was indeed made to look like a gas chamber after the war by the Soviets. The building's original interior walls were demolished by the Soviets to create one large chamber. Here we can see an original wooden door with an intact glass pane and door handle. As we go deeper inside the building, we can see the doorway cut by the Soviets after the war, which doesn't even have a door frame. Also, note the window, And outside, there's the chimney built by the Soviets, which doesn't even connect to the building or the ovens. Speaker 11: What did I see? I see the people I saw 15 minutes ago. I see them all dead, standing up with their children, black and blue. And I said to myself, what's going on? Speaker 0: Of course, dead bodies would collapse and not be standing up, but the telltale proof sunder commandos are lying is that cyanide poisoning actually results in a bright red coloration on victims' bodies, The opposite of black and blue. True victims of mass gassing would be collapsed with bright red coloration, not standing up black and blue. Speaker 11: As far as I know, there is only 4 of us that worked in the Sonderkommando alive today. And we are the only eyewitness that saw the the whole thing from a to z, how the final solution was done. Speaker 0: These are Dario's 2 cousins, Morris and Shlomo Venezia, who also claim they were sunder commandos. Dario's brother also claims to have been a sunder commando, but died before this BBC show was filmed. The official story claims that the sunder commando, as the most important witnesses to the so called final solution, were periodically killed to ensure that they wouldn't survive to testify. Yet, all four relatives miraculously survived, but kept their stories secret for almost 50 years. In the British documentary, Auschwitz, the final witness, Shlomo Venezia tells an unbelievable baby atrocity story. Speaker 6: I never spoke. Really, this is the first time I am speaking about. And one day, they brought also 3 little guys, maybe 2 months, 3 months, something like this. Babies? Babies. Babies alone. Babies without the mothers. Speaker 34: Who brought them in? With the mother. They were with the mothers. Yeah. Speaker 6: They brought it here with Speaker 34: the pleasure. Yeah. Speaker 6: With the truck, with the car. This tall German one, it says, was the This tall animal, say it? Yes. It takes the carabin. I had to to take the 3. First, he tries with 2. One day, 2. With 1 shot, he kills 2 together. 1 after the other. He comes from here, comes out here, goes inside and then. And he wants to try with 3 to save 1 bullet. You know? So he take I take 3 together. The the babies, they they stay not so they fall. 1, they head here, 1, they head there. They have to take Yeah. To be To be free. And this shots 1 kills 2. Yeah. And the third one makes something here but it doesn't. Speaker 34: It didn't die. Speaker 6: It didn't die. And put it down, There's 2 the first two were die. Yeah. The third one begins to make Grand. Yeah. And I saw the blood coming out. And I I told the German in German, I told it will it means to to to shutter the to make finish, to to die. To to to He says to me, I have not to And more bullets. No. I don't want to To spend a bullet. To spend another bullet and then to waste come all blood from there slowly slowly. Speaker 32: And he's gonna die. I Speaker 26: Jesus. Speaker 6: Never never never. This is terrible. I never say these things. Speaker 0: In the book, Auschwitz, a new history, Dario Gebay tells a story about Nazis shooting beautiful Jewish women in their breasts and vaginas. To echo Dario's story, Morris Venezia tells the story about the 3 babies being lined up to be shot. Only this time, instead of being babies, now they are young women who approach the s s and beg him to kill them together. Morris says, no human brain can believe that or understand it. It's impossible to believe it, but we saw it. The 3 Jews one bullet tail was originally Shlomo's, but Shlomo lives in Europe and Morris and Dario live in Los Angeles. Much easier for the author of Auschwitz, a new history to interview. So Morris decided to tell a version of his brother's atrocity lie as his own experience. Which one is it? Which 3 people were lined up and shot with 1 bullet? 3 little guys? 2 to 3 months old? Or 2 talkative sisters and a friend? Neither. They can't get the story straight because it never happened. That's why Morris says it's impossible to believe it. As they're inside the phony communist constructed gas chamber, Morris claims to not be able to remember if the gas chamber he worked in had shower heads and pipes inside, but he can remember a baby atrocity lie. Speaker 6: And this was the gas chamber. All you see another one, the hole where they put the gas inside. Speaker 34: And I don't remember. Speaker 8: In fact, now we do Speaker 34: the same with some kind of pipes looking like a shower or not. I don't remember that. Speaker 25: There were 4 showers. There were 4 showers. Speaker 6: They were around. Yeah. Exactly 4 showers. Yeah. But the reason like Speaker 4: a shower. Speaker 6: Yes. Like a shower. Speaker 34: Not over there? Speaker 6: No. Yeah. It was like Like there's no shower. This was forgotten? Yeah. For gas. But how many people over there? 300, 400, depends. 500, depends how Speaker 34: Or big enough. Yes. Speaker 8: For Morris, his presence here brought back more memories. The day he discovered a child alive in the chamber. Speaker 34: So when we opened the door, we heard a baby crying like a miracle. We started to take over the dead people from there to see where is the baby crying and we saw a baby on top of the dead bodies, Maybe his mother, I guess, when she was dying, he took the baby and she put him up, you know, And then he was right on top of the dead bars that came and somebody was called the German and we said, the baby. The German didn't care about it. He went over there, one shot and that's it. One shot in the head, the baby was lying. Speaker 0: These 3 stooges never cremated gas chamber victims because there never were any genocidal gas chambers in German concentration camps. Dario Gebay plays the part of a quiet tormented soul very well. Dario is a very convincing actor. As a matter of fact, here's Dario acting in the Korean War film, The Glory Brigade. Dario Gebay has been living the good life in Hollywood, and since the early nineties has been acting out the part of a tormented gas chamber slave to great effect for the Zionist destroying our world. Who were the historians that worked on the last days? Who could have allowed such lies to be woven into the fabric of history? The chief historical consultant for the last days was doctor Michael Berenbaum. Berenbaum is shown here while storyboarding the last days. Michael Berenbaum was the deputy director of the President's Commission on the Holocaust, project director of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, and director of the US Holocaust Museum's Holocaust Research Institute. Berenbaum served as president and CEO of the survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation. Berenbaum is an ordained orthodox rabbi. Rabbi Berenbaum slyly reveals his part in creating the new holocaust religion in an interview in which he says, it imposed upon me a responsibility to the Jewish past and the Jewish future and to become a producer of Torah and not just a consumer. The Torah is the first five books of the old testament. This is exactly what holocaust deniers accused Jews such as rabbi Berenbaum of doing, creating a modern religious chapter in the long history of Jewish religious myths, a holy hoax. Spielberg and Berenbaum know the truth of what George Orwell wrote. Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past. When The Last Days was released, critics praised the film to the high heavens. The Last Days won the Academy Award in 1999. The same year Life is Beautiful, American History X, and Spielberg Saving Private Ryan were nominated and awarded. Speaker 1: The works, they never gave us any water. They never gave us any food. The children were screaming. Speaker 0: Spielberg's USC, survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation, contains over 50,000 video testimonies. Out of 50,000 testimonies, the Shoah Foundation handpicked a bunch of hate filled liars and Zionists for their documentary. Surely, out of 50,000 video interviews, there must be some Jews telling some semblance of truth about life in the concentration camps. Speaker 17: We also had a, an orchestra where some of the musicians sta sits together, and one musician was so good that he had the instruments playing and he wrote the notes, so later on, we had a band who played over the weekend and, that was, of course, helping us. You know, we also did plays and stuff. Speaker 1: Were there any cultural activities happening in Auschwitz? Speaker 35: Yes. I told you we had a piano put into a not just a piano. A grand piano was brought into block 1. Once that was built, that new block, the downstairs room was assigned for theater. When he wanted to build a stage curtain in that new block 1, which was one big dining room was going to be also business stage, so performances could be done for women there cultural. He said, For heaven's sake, isn't there anybody here who can help me sew on these curtain rings for the stage? I do it for you, he says. And I came forward and I helped him with the curtain stage, and that was wonderful because I had a man sitting across me for a change. And my roommate is in charge of work assignments. And if you happen to know music, what instruments do you play? I said, I learned piano, but not good enough for an orchestra. I can tell you that right now. He said, well, then maybe you know the notes. I said, yes. He said, well, then I can use you because we have to write write it from the original music piece, what the director gets, to the instruments. And so for each instrument has only a short line on the whole paper. So I had to take it apart and write for each instrument from that what I had to do. That I had to even make the lines. We didn't have paper that was preprinted for notes. Nothing. So I spent the whole day there for a while until we were taken away from Auschwitz. But then she saw me work there. I had a big table where I could work and lay out all the paper, and it was very peaceful and relaxing. And, Otto wanted to to talk more to me. That is when I met that SS man at one time. That was the last job I did while I was in Auschwitz. And and when I the other job that when I was in block 10, we went out to pick the leaves. And from these leaves, they would make tea for the whole camp, for the whole Auschwitz. Speaker 9: How did you entertain yourselves? Speaker 36: Well, there were at the or at the beginning of those days, there was a library where you go people could get books to read. There were newspapers that we could get, and that and also among ourselves, sometimes we had, what do you call it, a violin quartet used to come play in barracks during the event that was And later on, they said they're gonna build a movie in the camp, and the president said, oh, you must be crazy. They gotta take a movie for us in the in the camp. And remember, it happened. They made a movie in the camp. Yeah. And we we went in barracks after we we could go to see a movie sometimes in the evening. They brought movies in to the the in the evening. And Speaker 9: What kind of movies, would they show? Speaker 36: German movies. But once I came to the main camp, they were allowed twice a month to ride home. Once a postcard and once a letter. Speaker 9: They gave you the materials? Speaker 36: Yeah. They gave us the letter, the materials, the we could Speaker 9: How did you get the stamps? Speaker 36: Stamps. We could buy stamps. Speaker 9: Had money? Speaker 36: Yeah. We got my we still got my with the money we got through the Jewish community from Vienna who sent us everybody some money. Speaker 9: And and in the camp, you could have, currency? Speaker 36: Yeah. They could have money because there was in camp also what they call a cantina. And not many times, but once in a while, they sold a few cigarettes or they sold something, whatever they had. So if you had money, you could buy in that container there. Food, there wasn't really any food really. They usually sold, and sometimes they sold they also sold some weak beer. They sold also in the in the Speaker 9: In the gabina? Speaker 36: Yeah. But, not really anything, else. Not much. Mostly cigarettes. Speaker 9: And when you went to the movies, did you have to pay? Speaker 36: Yes. We had to pay after the the money stopped, the regular money stopped, We got paid in coupons then. Speaker 9: Paid for your work? Speaker 36: Well, I don't know if it was for where. Whatever. We got paid for in coupons for which were redeemable in the in that container if they had something. So that was their their way of distributing money then to everybody. There's everybody got this money then. Speaker 17: Of course, what we did is for the weekends, we got together, we got a group of us together, and we made a soccer team, which was a little later, where Speaker 37: we played soccer. It's amazing that there would be a soccer team, that there'd be enough energy left to do something like that. Speaker 17: Well, I don't think we were quite as energetic as we were with the other regular team, but we did something to, you know it kept our mind off these of the problems we had. Speaker 37: You mentioned to me the other day that Monowitz was like a college library Speaker 17: Well, that was in Speaker 16: what way? Speaker 38: Especially the Germans start losing the war, 1943, 44. So 1944, we had soccer games in Rosales. Soccer teams, we had or we organized very well soccer teams. Each each nationality organized soccer team, and we all organize our equipment, everything, and play soccer on the assembly line on the assembly lash. Speaker 9: In Gross Rosen? Speaker 38: In Gross Rosen. So, you know, that much free it was in them, but it was like in 44. The Russians are already pushed away, Americans are already invaded from the other side, so they have to give more freedom, but there was much more freedom and, food didn't improve very much because, simple reason, they didn't have it very much themselves. So so Speaker 9: Did the civilians try to help you at all? Did they trade goods for things? Speaker 38: It's it's as I said, we we have almost everything what we wanted for the circuit circuit teams from civilians, from outside civilians, but that was strictly, under under undercover that assessed in order. They knew it, but they didn't do much about it because they knew the laws almost always, so they didn't, they even played soccer with us that, just to make the store the store funny, that the incident funny that one time the Polish team play against German teams and one of the, enlisted top listed assessment decided he wants to play for the Polish team. So we say, okay, you can play for us. And then they commanded the the commander the SS commanded, he was, like a like a a captain, you know. He decided to wanna play for the German team, so he went in the field. I think they were a little bit tipsy. Speaker 9: How how did you feel about that? And Speaker 38: the funny part of it, we said, just to let them play, they play all by themselves. We just love it all, but that was, one of these incidents which stuck stuck so funny in it. But that's happened, so it but it was not in 44, so it it almost, things came to a close. Speaker 9: So are what you is what you're saying then that, the closer the end of the war came, pressure was let up rather than Speaker 10: Definitely. Becoming more cruel? Speaker 38: In our camp, pressure you you did feel the pressure later. Speaker 0: The big problem is that the Auschwitz soccer field was right next to the so called genocidal gas chambers and would be in full view of the so called final solution. Speaker 10: Freddie Hirsch called me to the children's barracks. He was heading then, and he asked me if I could paint something on the wall for the children. And I said, well, if you can get the materials he said, I'll get the materials. I said, okay. And then a very handsome, young, blond man from the men's camp came over one day, and Freddie Hirsch called me to come and meet him. And he asked me what I need. So I said, well, if I can get any wall paints or any tempera paints, I would like those if you can get me some. And he said, Yes. Anything you want? And so before I knew it, Freddie had the stuff ready for me, and I started painting. At first, not knowing what, I looked at that huge drab It was kind of olive colored, like all the barracks were. Wall, and, I thought, well, the thing to do is to make it look like we are in a Swiss chalet on the deck, and there is a balustrade with flowers and flowerpots on it. And we are looking out at the beautiful meadows and maybe see some cows and sheep and stuff, and I started painting. And then afterwards, far in the distance, I was putting some sheep and some cows, and then I noticed that all the kids were standing around me, behind me. So I turned around and I asked them if they would do they have any special wish what to put in that meadow? And they said Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, and that was a very surprising answer. So I made a painting of Dopey standing on another dwarf's head with a cloak around him, so he looked like a tall guy. So he would be as tall as Snow White. And they were dancing together, and the shoes those soft shoes and everything. And the kids loved it, and I made some other dwarves around, one who was playing the accordion. I think there was Grumpy, the mean one, and the professor with the glasses. I made almost all the dwarfs standing around. Some of them were clapping and that's what the kids liked. I now understand that there was another painter who continued something painting on the walls after I have left. I don't know about that. Speaker 18: When you were in the process of doing that Yes. What did it do not only for you, but for the children Speaker 10: on an emotional level? Well, it did several things, not just emotional, but the children then wrote a play which was a satire of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. So I figured out a way of making a crown out of paper, and the kids were painting it gold and putting, like, jewels on it. And then I took some paper strips, and I painted them with a black paint. And I don't know about the costumes, what what they made costumes out of, but the play was very successful because the little girl who was, playing Snow White had an incredible voice, a gorgeous soprano, just like the one that you hear in the movie. Speaker 18: How were they allowed to put on a play in Auschwitz? Speaker 10: I don't know, but it was done kind of quite hush-hush, all of it, except that when it was put on, suddenly some assessment appeared, and they watched. And then when Arnaud Beem put on that play, he he wanted something like a Wardville Wardville play, which I was into. That was when I couldn't stand the breath of the guy who was playing with me. Speaker 18: What was the process for the casting? I mean, how were people selected to be in this play or that play? Speaker 1: This is a picture, that was taken at my father's cousin's grandchild's bat mitzvah 3 years ago and these people in this picture are all survivors. Speaker 0: Steven Spielberg knows how trusting and essentially gullible the Goyam are. Show them some shiny objects, manipulate the masses into worshiping a hoax. How did people get so stupid? How could 1,000,000 shed tears to Irene Zysblatt's scatological fiction without a shadow of doubt ever crossing their minds? Much like religion, the Jews start their holocaust brainwashing at an early age. Speaker 8: Their lives before, during, and after the holocaust. And most recently, we produced our 1st educational CD ROM. And using the tools of modern media and technology, we will bring young people close to the words and faces Speaker 19: I'm here for an education. Speaker 1: I'm here for an education. I'm here for an education. Speaker 19: I'm here for an education. Speaker 1: I'm willing, God. Speaker 19: I'm willing, God. Speaker 1: I'll do what you want me Speaker 19: to do. I'll do what you want me Speaker 1: to do. I'll say what you want me to say. Speaker 19: I'll say it. Speaker 8: Racial hatred has to be taught so the young people, the next generation, will never allow Speaker 11: this to ever happen again. Speaker 1: We're gonna be listening Speaker 19: to individual stories because Speaker 1: history happens to individuals. True. Because history happens to individuals. Speaker 9: 2 little boys came, and they were looking at my farm just staring at him. He said the one said, well, we were told when you look at you in the eye, you can see the devil in there. He says, I just wanted to see if that's true. Speaker 2: Little 8 year old kid. Speaker 8: I've seen young people, young students who have seen these testimonies. It does change them. Speaker 0: Here's Irene Zisblatt tormenting a captive audience of impressionable young American public school children with her repulsive lies. Speaker 1: The Nazi doctors were torturing me and the people so unbearable. Speaker 0: By her own account, Zisplat has told her fictional horror stories to over 6,000,000 American public school children. Like the 3 major monotheistic religions, which also originated from Jewish mythmakers, the majority of those taught Jewish Holocaust lies never questioned and reexamine these lies when they are adults. Doctor Arthur Butz pointed out in his groundbreaking book, the hoax of the 20th century, that it is ironic that Hitler anticipated the psychology of the big lie and wrote about it in Mein Kampf. Today, most people believe that the big lie was a propaganda technique Hitler created and used to trick the masses of Germany. In actuality, Hitler wrote that the Jews were the creators and masters of telling the big lie. Hitler wrote, but it remained for the Jews with their unqualified capacity for falsehood and their fighting comrades, the Marxists. All this was inspired by the principle which is quite true in itself. That in the big lie, there is always a certain force of credibility. Because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted In the deeper strata. Of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily. And thus, in the primitive simplicity of their minds, they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie. Since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters, but would be ashamed to resort to large scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have an impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, They will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it even after it has been nailed down. A fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well to use falsehood for the basis purposes. From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie? That they are a religious community. Whereas in reality, they are a race. And what a race. One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. He called the Jew the great master of lies. Those who do not realize the truth of that statement or do not wish to believe it will never be able to lend a hand in helping truth to prevail. What does Hitler mean in practice? When the Jews spend 1,000,000 of dollars filming a Jewess telling a horror story about swallowing feces covered diamonds, the last earthly possession her mother ever gave her, while violins crescendo in the background. The Jews are using the Gentiles' emotional nature to corrupt them. But Steven Spielberg's The Last Days is only a microcosm of the biggest lie, the holocaust myth itself. The holocaust is a colossal hoax created with phony evidence such as buildings Soviets shoddily modified to look like gas chambers and is backed up by the absurd lies of so called survivors. The Zionist movement had been trying for decades to pass off a story of the impending systematic extermination of 6,000,000 Jews in order to create the state of Israel. Jewish supremacists took the fact that tens of thousands of Jews died of disease and starvation at the end of the most devastating war the world has ever seen and manufactured a new religion out of it. The holocaust myth is being used to demoralize, demonize, and destroy not only Germany and German people, but all of Western civilization and white people worldwide. The holocaust lie is used to justify every war in the Middle East on Israel's behalf. After all, we're told Muslims are Islamofascists hell bent on unleashing a nuclear holocaust. Speaker 39: Would you ever be willing to sit down with Jews, with scholars, with survivors of Hitler's camps where 6,000,000 died? Our American film director Steven Spielberg is one of many collecting the stories of those still alive who will tell you of the dead and the program to kill the Jews in Germany and elsewhere. Speaker 18: I feel that there is Speaker 40: a feeling of a need to escape the truth here. Among the American politicians. As well as, some media here. Speaker 0: The reason the holocaust hoax stands is Jewish control of the media, academia, politics, and finance. But their big lie is unraveling. Their lies can be debunked. Thanks to decades of sacrifice by holocaust deniers. These are truly the last days of the big lie. Speaker 8: Shoah is the Hebrew word for holocaust and survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation, which I established in 1994, has now videotaped the testimonies of over 50,000 survivors in 57 countries in 33 languages. I consider this the most important work of my life. Speaker 1: I think that was Mengele that took me out of there, and he just attached me to that gypsy prison and I went to the gas chamber. Speaker 16: And I'm hoping that mister Spielberg will use these interviews as ways to constantly say to people, think about it.

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The survivors in Auschwitz found ways to maintain cultural activities, such as playing in an orchestra, painting murals, and putting on plays. Despite the harsh conditions, they managed to create a sense of normalcy through music, art, and theater. These activities provided a much-needed escape from the horrors of the camp, allowing them to find moments of joy and connection.
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Speaker 0: 50,000 video interviews. There must be some Jews telling some semblance of truth about life in the concentration camps. Speaker 1: We also had a, an orchestra where some of the musicians stand stood together, And one musician was so good that he had the instruments playing and he wrote the notes. So later on, we had a band who played over the weekend. And, that was, of course, Speaker 2: Were there any cultural activities happening in Auschwitz? Speaker 3: Yes. I told you we had a piano put into a not just a piano, a grand piano was brought into block 1. Once that was built, that the downstairs room was assigned for theater. When he wanted to build a stage curtain in that new block 1, which was one big dining room was going to be also business stage, so performances could be done for women there, cultural. He said, for heaven's sake, isn't there anybody here who can help me sew on these curtain rings for the stage? I do it for you, he says. And I came forward, and I helped him with the curtain stage. And that was wonderful because I had a man sitting across me for a change. And my roommate is in charge of work assignments. And if you happen to know music what instruments do you play? I said I learned piano but not good enough on orchestra. I can tell you that right now. He said, well then maybe you know the notes. I said, yes. He said, well then I can use you because we have to, write it from the original music piece, what the director gets, to the instruments. And so for each instrument has only, a short line on the whole paper. So I had to take it apart and write for each instrument from that what I had to do. That I had to even make the lines. We didn't have paper that was preprinted for notes. Nothing. So I spent the whole day there for a while until we were taken away from Auschwitz. But then she saw me work there. I had a big table where I could work and lay out all the paper, and it was very peaceful and relaxing. Speaker 4: And Speaker 3: Otto wanted to to talk more to me. That is when I met that SS man at one time. That was the last job I did while I was in Auschwitz. And and and when I the other job that when I was in block 10, we went out to pick the leaves. And from these leaves, they would make tea for the whole camp, for the whole Auschwitz. Speaker 2: How did you entertain yourselves? Speaker 5: Well, there were at that or at the beginning of those days, there was a library where you go people could get books to read. There were newspapers that we could get, and that and also among ourselves, sometimes we had a violin quartet. We used to come and play in barracks during the event that was this. And later on, they said they're gonna build a mover in the camp, and they pray of the president said said, all of you must be crazy. They're gonna make a movie for us in in the camp. And remember, it happened. They made a movie in the can. Did. Yeah. And we we went in barracks after the we we could go to see a movie sometimes in the evening. They brought movies in to the in the evening. And Speaker 2: What kind of movies would they show? Speaker 5: German movies. Once I came to the main camp, they were allowed twice a month to ride home. Once a postcard and once a letter. Speaker 2: They gave you the materials? Speaker 5: Yeah. They gave us the letter, the materials, the we could Speaker 2: How did you get the Speaker 5: stamps. We could buy stamps. We could You Speaker 2: had money? Speaker 5: Yeah. We got money. We still got money. We got money we got through the Jewish community from Vienna who sent us everybody some money. Speaker 2: And and in the camp, you could have, currency? Speaker 5: Yeah. They could have money because there was in camp also what they call a container, and not many times. But once in a while, they sold a few cigarettes or they sold something, whatever they had. So if you had money, you could buy in that container there. Food, there wasn't really any food really. They usually sold, and sometimes they sold they sold some weak beer. They sold also Speaker 2: in the Speaker 5: In the Caribbean. Yeah. But not really anything else. Mostly cigarettes. Speaker 2: And when you went to the movies, did you have to pay? Speaker 5: Yes, we had to pay After the the money stopped, the regular money stopped, We got paid in coupons then. Speaker 2: Paid for your work? Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if it was for where whatever. We got paid for in coupons for which were redeemable in the in the container if they had something. So that was their their way of distributing money then to everybody. There's everybody got this money Speaker 1: then. Of course, what we did is for the weekends, we got together. We got a group of us together, and we made a soccer team, which was over a little later, where we played soccer. What's amazing that there would be a soccer team, that there'd be Speaker 6: enough energy left to do something like that. Speaker 1: Well, I don't think we were quite as energetic as we were with the other regular team, but we did something to, you know it kept our mind off these, of the problems we had. Speaker 6: Well, you you mentioned to me the other day that Monowitz was like a college library Speaker 4: Well, that was Speaker 6: in what way? Speaker 4: Especially the Germans start losing the war, 1943, 94. So 1944, we had soccer games in Rosales. Soccer teams, we had to org we organized very well soccer teams. Each each nationality organized soccer team, and we all organized our equipment, everything, and play soccer on the assembly line on the assembly, place. Speaker 7: In gross Rosen? Speaker 4: In Gross Rosen. So, you know, that much free it was, and then but it was not in 44. It's the Russians already pushed away, Americans already invaded from the other side, so they they have to give more freedom. But there was much more freedom, and and food didn't improve very much because, simple reason, they didn't have it very much themselves. So so Speaker 7: Did the civilians try to help you at all? Did they trade goods for things? Speaker 4: It's it's it's as I said, we we have almost everything what we wanted for the circuit circuit teams from civilians, from outside civilians, but that was strictly, under under under cover. The the SS didn't know that they knew it, but they didn't do much about it because they knew the war was almost over, so they didn't, they even played soccer with us that just to make the the store the store funny, that the incident, find that one time the Polish team play against German teams, and one of this, enlisted top listed assessment decided he wants to play for the Polish team. So we say, okay. You can play for us. And then the commandant the the commanded the SS commanded, he was, like like a a captain. He decided to wanna play for with the German team, so he went in the field. I think they were a little bit tipsy. Speaker 7: How how did you feel about that? And Speaker 4: the the funny part of it, we said just to let them play, they play all by themselves. Which is not an honor. But that was, one of this incident which stuck stuck so fun in it. But that's happened, so but it was 1944, so it's, it almost, things came to a close. Speaker 7: So are what you is what you're saying then that, the closer the end of the war came, pressure was let up rather than becoming more cruel or Speaker 4: In our camp, pleasure you you did feel the pressure laid Speaker 0: out. The big problem is that the Auschwitz soccer field was right next to the so called genocidal gas chambers and would be in full view of the so called final solution. Speaker 8: Freddie Hirsch called me to the children's barracks. He was heading then, And, he asked me if I could paint something on the wall for the children, and I said, well, if you can get the materials. He said, I'll get the materials. Okay. And then a very handsome, young, blonde man from the men's camp came over one day and Freddie Hirsch called me to come and meet him. And he asked me what I need, so I said, well, if I can get any wall paints or any temporary paints, I would like those. If you can get me some, and he said, yes. Anything you want. And so before I knew it, Freddie had the stuff ready for me and I started painting. At first, not knowing what, I looked at that huge drab. It was kind of olive colored like all the barracks were. Wall and I thought well, the thing to do is to make it look like we are in a Swiss chalet on the deck and there is a balustrade with flowers and flower pots on it, and we are looking out of the beautiful meadows and maybe see some cows and sheep and stuff, and I started painting. And then afterwards far in the distance, I was putting some sheep and some cows, and then I noticed that all the kids were standing around me behind me. So I turned around and I asked them if they would do they have any special wish what to put in that meadow? And they said, Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs, and that was a very surprising answer. So I made a painting of Dopey standing on another dwarf's head with a cloak around him, so he looked like a tall guy. So he would be as tall as Snow White and they were dancing together and the shoes, those soft shoes and everything, and the kids loved it and I made some other dwarves around. One who was playing the accordion. I think that was Grumpy, the mean one, and the professor with the glasses. I made almost all the dwarves standing around. Some of them were clapping and that's what the kids liked. I now understand that there was another painter who continued something painting on the walls after I've left. I don't know about that. Speaker 9: When you were in the process of doing that Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 9: What did it do not only for for you, but for the, for the children on on an emotional level. Speaker 8: Well, it did several things. Not just emotional, but the children then wrote a play which was a satire of Snow White and the 7 Dwarves. So I figured out a way of making a crown out of paper and the kids were painting it gold and putting like jewels on it, And then I took some paper strips, and I painted them with a black paint. And I don't know about the costumes, what what they made costumes out of, but the play was very successful because the little girl who was playing Snow White had an incredible voice, a gorgeous soprano just like the one that you hear in the movie. Speaker 9: How were they allowed to put on a play in Auschwitz? Speaker 8: I don't know, but it was done kind of quite hush-hush, all of it, except that when it was put on, suddenly some assessment appeared and they watched. And then when Arno Baen put on that play, he he wanted something like a Wardville Wardville play, which I was into. That was when I couldn't stand the breath of the guy who was playing with me. Speaker 9: What was the, the process for the casting? I mean, how were people selected to be in this play or that play? Speaker 3: This is a picture, that was taken at my father's cousin's grand child's bat bat mitzvah 3 years ago, and these people in this picture are all survivors.

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No Jews were made into bars of soap.

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The story that the Germans made bars of soap out of Jews, is a myth.

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The US Army's psychological warfare division deceived German civilians with shrunken human heads and a lampshade made of prisoners' skin. The myth of prisoners being turned into soap has been debunked. Former prisoners' testimonies were found to be exaggerated or false. When questioned about the deception, the individual responsible claimed it was a product of their imagination, despite knowing it was untrue.
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Speaker 0: The US Army's psychological warfare division set up a table with shrunken human heads and a lampshade, German civilians were told, was made out of the skin of prisoners. What else were we lied to about? The tall tale about prisoners being turned into bars of soap has been proven to be a myth. Testimony of several high profile former prisoners has been proven to be embellished or completely made up. Speaker 1: Why did you do it? Why did you tell such a big lie to so many people for so long? Speaker 2: It wasn't a lie. It was I was my imagination and in my imagination in my mind, I believed Speaker 1: it. How can you say it wasn't a lie? It it wasn't true and and you know it's not true. Speaker 2: Yes. It's not true. But in my imagination, it was true.

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Treblinka: Transit Camp or Extermination Camp?

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The documentary "Inside Hitler's Secret Death Camp" explores the alleged extermination camp Treblinka 2 in Eastern Poland. While the film presents evidence from a British archaeologist aiming to debunk Holocaust deniers, it is criticized for its propaganda-like techniques and lack of concrete evidence. The existence of gas chambers is debated, with survivors claiming they did not see any. The archaeological investigation is also questioned, as it involves digging near marked graves and misidentifying evidence. The lack of consensus among witnesses and conflicting maps further raise doubts. The presence of life-saving facilities in the camps is highlighted. Overall, the documentary's claims are met with skepticism and lack substantial evidence. Those who question the Holocaust story face persecution.
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Speaker 0: The British Channel 5 released a new documentary titled Inside Hitler's Secret Death Camp. The American government owned Smithsonian Channel released the same program with an American voice over entitled it Treblinka, Hitler's Killing Machine. These TV specials focus on the British archaeologist claiming to find evidence proving holocaust deniers to be wrong 70 years after the end of World War 2. Treblinka 2 is an alleged extermination camp in Eastern Poland where the Germans are claimed to have gassed, buried, dug back up, cremated, and reburied or scattered the remains of 900,000 Jews. Holocaust revisionists or holocaust deniers claim there is no evidence to support this claim. Speaker 1: According to the guide here, there were 13 gas chambers altogether and, gassing took place within 10 or 15 minutes. First of all the bodies of the victims were buried, but there's no found any graves. And then later they were dug out and repremated on big, grates. The ashes were then mixed with sand and buried in one spot. Well, there's there's just nothing here to verify any of those claims. They they admit in this guide that, all this stuff is all symbolic. Speaker 0: The following presentation is a debunking of these propaganda TV specials and the fraudulent archaeological investigation of Treblinka, which involved digging near clearly marked graves in a known Christian cemetery claiming to find new hidden mass graves. Picking up remains likely recently scattered by Jews themselves, and the misidentification of terracotta tiles alleged belonging to a homicidal gas chamber. Something. We will explore Treblinka for our site Speaker 2: in order to uncover the truth about the bones of Treblinka. Something. Speaker 0: We will explore Treblinka for ourselves and even find the partially exposed animal burial site in order to uncover the truth about the bones of Treblinka. The foremost technique to get people to believe in the story of 6,000,000 Jews mostly murdered in gas chambers disguised with shower rooms is imagery. And films are a combination of all mediums, scripts, images, sound, and are a powerful psychological warfare weapon. Speaker 3: And the critics agree, Holocaust is one of the most powerful films ever made. Speaker 0: So let's start the British Channel 5 video. You can hear the film projector sound superimposed here. Speaker 4: In 1942, the Nazis transported around 900,000 people to Treblinka, a death camp in Eastern Poland. They disappeared without a trace. Speaker 0: This is one of the most famous images used by Holocaust promoters. We hear a death camp in Eastern Poland and assume that these people and this poor little boy were sent from the Warsaw ghetto to Treblinka, where they were then gassed to death. However, there are several Jews who, as young boys, had similar experiences in Warsaw and were not gassed or even sent to Treblinka. Some even claimed they may be this boy in the photograph. Israel Shehak had a similar experience. At 10 years old, he was deported twice with his family from Warsaw to other camps and, of course, was not gassed. There was no proof this boy was even deported to Treblinka and was never gassed just like these Jews who were young boys at the time of their deportation from Warsaw. Speaker 4: The camp was destroyed. Only a handful of eyewitnesses survived. 70 years later, a British forensic investigator attempts to uncover the truth about Hitler's secret extermination camp. Using state of the art aerial technology, new eyewitnesses, and investigative archaeology, can Caroline Sturdy Coals uncover the brutal horror of Hitler's killing machine? Speaker 0: Oh my god. Speaker 5: Only worry I Speaker 6: have about Caroline Speaker 4: is how she gonna get through Speaker 0: film techniques are used to make you believe in their propaganda. Look at how desaturated and dark this image is. It's so darkened in post production, it's hardly visible at all. This is what these symbolic railroad ties look like without color correction. Look at how much their images have been tweaked to look more deathly and foreboding as if the forest itself was sucking in light like a black hole. This horror movie style color correction continues throughout the TV special. Speaker 4: Eyewitnesses and investigative archaeology. Speaker 0: Then they show very quick cuts of footage taken at Majdanek camp, not Treblinka. Even Coles' promotional image about Treblinka wasn't taken at Treblinka, but Majdanek. There are no barbed wire fences for photo ops at Treblinka. She posed in between an open gate in order to be sandwiched in between layers of barbed wire. Speaker 4: Caroline has been given unprecedented access to excavate at Treblinka for the first time in 70 years to discover the brutal mechanics of a Nazi death camp. Treblinka is a 100 kilometers northeast of Warsaw. In 1941, the Nazis set up a penal camp, Treblinka 1, where both Poles and Jews worked as slave labor. 6 months later, a second camp, Treblinka 2, was set up. Its sole purpose was to kill Jews. The Nazis eradicated all evidence of their crimes, leaving no visible trace above the ground. Speaker 0: Exterminationists claim the Nazis made 900 1,000 Jews disappear without a trace. Revisionists claim Treblinka 2 operated as a transit camp and have proof of tens of 1,000 claim transited through Treblinka by Jews themselves. Speaker 7: In the morning, sure enough, they told us to find some clothes and some shoes, and they put us on a train where a 100 girls, and they send us from on that train to Majdanek. Speaker 8: And there were 100 of us, and then, they were reloading us on a train. So we went back into this. Speaker 9: I stayed in line. They picked out 500 young men. They put us back in the cars. In the morning, we came in from Treblinka back to Lublin. Speaker 3: And then back into the same train that brought us in. So we, wind up in Meidernie. Speaker 10: They took us, put us in a wagon, all under 6 in 1 wagon. And we went to Majdanek. We came to Majdanek. Speaker 11: I was one of the 300, which went to the right. From there, we were taken to a place called Majdanek. Speaker 3: And and what was they needed a 100 women, I don't know, Because when we came to Medanich, there were thousands of people. Speaker 12: So they put you on back on the same kind of train? Speaker 0: Yes. Other revisionists question if 900,000 Jews were even sent to Treblinka as tracing the large amount of Jews deported from Warsaw and elsewhere show a large amount were sent to other labor and evacuation centers. Speaker 4: For the first time ever, cutting edge aerial photography called Speaker 2: LIDAR will allow Caroline to look at Speaker 4: the truth beneath the surface. To look at the truth beneath the surface. Eyewitnesses and records suggest that up to 900,000 people were murdered by the Nazis in 13 gas chambers at Treblinka too. Speaker 0: Many of the current beliefs about Treblinka rely on a Zionist Israeli Jew named Samuel Willenberg who claims he was interred in Treblinka. Speaker 11: I was in a death factory. Speaker 0: After the war, he moved to Israel and created Willenberg claims the Germans made a Jew wear a giant clock around his neck to ensure inmates spent less than 2 minutes on the toilet. Presented as evidence, the Treblinka Museum displays 3 cartoons drawn by Willenberg on their walls as well as a large model train set he built with his alleged massive mass graves, gas chambers, and cremation grates. Willeberg himself claims he never had access to this alleged extermination area or actually saw any of these structures. Therefore, his drawings and models are based on his imagination and hearsay, which is inadmissible as evidence in most modern courts. So it's no wonder why the dimensions and shape of the massive burial pits in his model look nothing like the ones portrayed in his sketch. Despite having worked as a professional surveyor and even becoming chief measurer in Israel's Ministry of Construction and Housing, Wuhlenberg can't even get the basic shape of the camp right. This is an aerial photograph of the site in 1944, so the alleged camp should look more like this. But Caroline Coles' ground penetrating radar actually proves that there are no massive ground disturbances for the alleged massive burial pits for 900,000 Jews in the location claimed or anywhere in Treblinka. They do not exist. Although there are likely small burial pits in the area, mostly for those who died on route, the area where these massive burial pits should, by all accounts, be located appears largely, remarkably undisturbed other than some smaller depressions. Nothing approaching the cartoonish fictional mass graves of almost a 1000000 Jews claimed by the Zionist holocaust narrative is to be found anywhere at the alleged Treblinka 2 site. After seeing this information, what did Caroline Coles decide to do? She decided to go to a known cemetery south of the Treblinka 1 labor camp, which has clearly marked Christian graves and dig there, claiming to uncover hidden mass graves. Speaker 4: Caroline needs to wait for final permission to excavate the gas chambers at Treblinka 2. But the lidar has given her plenty of new targets at the labor camp, Treblinka 1. To the south of Treblinka 1, 10 minutes' walk through the forest, the lidars revealed a number of previously unknown depressions. Caroline decides to dig 2 test trenches to investigate further. Speaker 0: This area is a marked cemetery. The lines you see are walking paths around the cemetery. This structure is a monument. Nothing hidden or unknown about this area. Caroline had to wait for permission, apparently from Poland's chief rabbi to dig at Treblinka too, but had no problem disturbing Some even have names on them and dates of death. There's Some even have names on them and dates of death. There are some other graves scattered throughout the forest. Speaker 13: This whole landscape is part of Treblinka's killing machine, essentially. This is the area where the Nazis came to hide their crimes that they perpetrated. Seeing all this, I just feel so angry. It's not just bones. You know? It's it's a it's a person. It's it's just horror. Speaker 4: The team decide to dig a third trench in another depression revealed by the lidar. After a day excavating trench 3, the team find 40 bones. Caroline concludes that they now have proof positive that Treblinka 1 contains several new mass graves and fresh evidence of the brutal killings carried out here by the Nazis. Speaker 13: My feeling is that we should stop now because I think we we we the more we're digging, the more bone we're finding. All the remains are disarticulated. We've got fragments of bone, fragments of skull, fragments of ribs. We've got enough to prove that this is a mass grave. And and if we kept digging, we just found more and more and more. So I think the the best thing to do is to reinter the remains. Speaker 0: Yeah. The average human body has 206 bones. So 40 human bones isn't even 1 5th that amount. But she says to stop digging. Wouldn't want to find more evidence after all. Just because people are buried here doesn't mean they were murdered or even were inmates of the camp. At the time, many diseases for which modern medicine has essentially cured were rampaging throughout Europe. At Treblinka 1, there are many structures designed to quarantine and attempt to heal sick prisoners, not kill them. The small amount who died were apparently buried here in this small cemetery despite there allegedly being giant burial pits nearby. Look at how old, discolored, and brittle the bones are. On the way to this cemetery, lining both sides of the trail are older looking grave markings with Roman numerals on them. It's possible that some graves in this area are not from the Nazi era at all as graves from the 11th century were recently discovered in the town Ponyatowo. Emotional manipulation, not science. That's how they got you to believe in the official story. Speaker 13: We're now reintering the remains, that we've found today, which is, quite a difficult thing to do. Obviously, we've confirmed the presence of a mass grave. We found, the remains of these individuals. Speaker 0: Treblinka 1 was a work camp located next to a large gravel quarry, which at the time use excavators to dig for gravel for use in road making operations. The Treblinka Museum shows photos of excavators and claim they are digging mass graves in front of a gas chamber. Here is a group of Zionists in front of Wilmberg's model, and the photos of the excavators claimed to have been digging mass graves at Treblinka too. But we can see via satellite that currently there is a similar quarry operating near Treblinka with excavators at work. Nothing genocidal about it. Most structures at Treblinka 1 are marked with signs, barrack for the sick, family barrack for Jews, kitchen, bakery and dairy are just some of the marked structures. However, this structure wasn't marked with an identifying sign, but a frightening do not enter warning. This is labeled on the map as a swimming pool. In fact, here are what possibly served as concrete starting blocks for races. A dirty little secret the Holocaust promoters hide is that throughout the German camp system, inmates swam in camp swimming pools built for their use. Here's a photograph of a similar swimming pool at Auschwitz with prisoners at the forefront of the frame. You can see similar starting blocks, diving board, and ornate decorations. Tourists at both Auschwitz and Treblinka rarely see these swimming pools. It's no wonder the hoaxers leave this swimming pool structure without an identifying sign. It's quite embarrassing for the orthodox narrative. One would have to believe that at the same time, Jews were being gassed and buried by the train load at this hell on earth. A short walk down the road, inmates were swimming in a German built swimming pool. The Treblinka swimming pool was located next to one of the largest structures at the camp, the lazarette or infirmary. Both obviously were used to keep workers alive in good spirits and productive. The exterminationists claim that up the road at Treblinka 2, there was a fake lazarette where Jews would be tricked into entering and then shot and thrown into a burial pit. Speaker 4: If any of the arrivals said they were sick, then the Nazis directed them to Treblinka's special hospital. Speaker 0: Yet a short walk away, we can see a real used to keep inmates alive. And next to it, what appears to be a pit is a life enhancing swimming pool. Speaker 4: On the edge of the city of Lublin, you can still find large parts of Mechenic, the largest concentration camp outside of the German Reich. Speaker 0: The announcer repeatedly mispronounces the name of the camp, Majdanek, as Speaker 4: Majdanek evolved from being a penal camp for Soviet troops and Jews into a slave labor camp with 50,000 prisoners at its peak. These buildings are as close as Caroline can get to seeing what the Treblinka death camp would have looked like in 1942. None of the gas chambers from the 3 other action Reinhard camps have ever been found. But here at Mechenic, 2 gas chambers do survive. Built in September 1942, they were constructed around the same time as the gas chambers at Treblinka. Caroline's looking for clues here as to the kind of building materials she hopes to discover when she begins excavating the gas chambers at Treblinka 2. Speaker 13: I'm never going to be able to excavate the remains of of the walls intact at Treblinka. I'm never going to be able to see the gas chambers as I can see them here at Majdanek because the Nazis did go to great lengths to destroy them. What I'm gonna find, hopefully, is is foundations, is possible sections extremely unique experience for me to be able to come here, an important experience Speaker 1: for me Speaker 13: to be able to come to my dining, to see these buildings standing. I can see exactly how these gas chambers functioned. And I think to see that, to have physical evidence staring you in the face, it's an extremely it's a really troubling thing. I think it makes me feel extremely uncomfortable to walk around places Speaker 2: where I know so many people were killed. Speaker 0: Majdanek is a camp where originally over 1,500,000 Jews were claimed to have been killed in a huge death factory of gas chambers and crematories. Now the historian of the Majdanek Museum claims that 50 9,000 Jews died there. The official Majdanek death toll has precipitously declined from 1,500,000 to 59,000. Because Majdanek was captured largely intact. Physical evidence and a large amount of records remain to acquit the Germans of the same kind of Soviet Allied propaganda which persists at the dismantled Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor camps. The fraudulently alleged death factory Coles visited is located at the entrance to the Majdanek camp and is actually a life saving hygiene complex labeled here as bath and disinfection 1. But this isn't all of the original building. It wasn't one entire connected building. The Soviets modified it and bridged gaps between these separate rooms after liberation to make it appear as if the shower complex was connected to the rooms with blue staining used for delousing clothes in order to imply homicidal intent. Early propaganda claim that victims always received a bath in advance of execution because the hot water opened the pores and generally improved the speed with which the poison gas took effect. The current official legend at Auschwitz and Treblinka and elsewhere is that the majority of the 6,000,000 Jews were murdered in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. Speaker 3: Winx, Dusen. Dusen. Speaker 0: Remarkably, here the shower and delousing chamber are shown to actually be separate. A shower room with no blue cyanide staining on the walls and easily breakable windows, obviously never used for homicidal gassing, and the blue stained airtight delousing chambers meant for delousing inmate clothing in order to kill deadly typhus carrying lice. We can tell the insecticide ziklon b was heavily used in any area which displays this telltale Prussian blue staining on the walls. The process is nothing sinister, and even today, prison facilities require a similar intake process. As a member of the US Army, German American author Kurt Vonnegut was taken captive as a prisoner of war by the Germans. In his anti war classic novel, Slaughterhouse 5, which highlights the allied firebombing holocaust of the city of Dresden, he describes the typical inmate intake process. The naked Americans took their places under many shower heads along a white tiled wall. There were no faucets they could control. They could only wait for whatever was coming. An unseen hand turned a master valve. Out of the shower heads gushed scalding rain. The rain was a blowtorch that did not warm. It jazzed and jangled Billy's skin without thawing the ice in the marrow of his long bones. The Americans' clothes were meanwhile passing through poison gas. Body lice and bacteria and fleas were dying by the billions, so it goes. This common camp intake procedure involved disinfecting inmate clothing with ziklon b insecticide in one part of the bath and disinfection complex while the arrival showered in another part. Here's how these life saving bath and disinfection facilities worked. The inmates would enter the camp. As part of the intake process, they would enter an undressing room and get their haircut in order to protect them from deadly disease carrying lice and remove their clothing. Then they would enter the shower room and were made to take a bath. Apparently, these concrete bathtubs were filled with chemicals which aided in the disinfection. As you can see, this is not a gas chamber, but a real normal shower room complete with easily breakable windows. Through a hole in the door of this closed room marked with an electrical warning sign, we can see the boiler system, which made the water for the inmates Then they deceptively cut to air raid shelter doors 3 rooms down as if they were the trap doors of this fake shower room. But it's not currently denied that this was a real operational shower room. We could even see the well outside where water for the showers was provided. Thankfully, this entire facility wasn't completely destroyed and modified by the Soviets as these structures help dispel the gas chambers disguised as showers myth and helped drop the outrageous propaganda death count. This former inmate heard rumors that these showers at Majdanek were really homicidal gas chambers too. Speaker 14: Everybody is telling you, told us, don't eat. Don't eat because it's hard to die when they give you the gas because your stomach is so full. We knew we're going to the gas chamber. But by some miracle, I don't know how, what then, water came down instead of the gas. Speaker 0: The original myth was that the gas came through the shower faucets instead of water. Once that was realized to be absurd and technically impossible, the official lie changed to claim that the Germans simply dropped Zyklon B pellets through holes in the ceilings. There is no possible way this life saving shower room was used for gassing. However, documentaries such as Coles continue to insinuate it on the average ignorant television viewer in the year 2014. It's a dirty trick which goes back to this American documentary about Dachau, which was actually used as evidence at the Nuremberg trials. The American government enlisted future Oscar winning Hollywood director George Stevens, who later directed Giant, Shane, and the Diary of Anne Frank to film propaganda at the camps. More and more information is coming out about Hollywood such as John Ford, Billy Wilder, and Frank Capra. Staging and faking footage used in documentaries purported to be real. Speaker 15: This is the brow spud, the shower bath. Inside the shower bath, the gas vents. On the ceiling, the dummy shower heads. In the engineers room, the intake and outlet pipes. Push buttons to control inflow and outtake of gas. A hand valve to regulate pressure. Speaker 0: Apparently, under Stevens's direction, the US Army's signal corpse modified this shower to make it fit the propaganda rumors of gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. Among other modifications, they crudely grafted a much lower ceiling under the original. This fraudulently alleged homicidal gassing operation booth isn't open to tourist eyes at Dachau. It was just a real shower. This is the unseen hand turning the master valve mentioned by Vonnegut to turn on the showers. The blatant fiction of this room is too obvious. For 1, the complete lack of blue staining gives it away. The hoaxers have backtracked, claiming that it was going to be a gas chamber, but was never used as one. In this room, there was actually a sign which bizarrely read gas chamber disguised as a shower room, never used as a gas chamber. This wasn't a gas chamber, It was a real shower, which was modified by US psychological warfare units and had its ceiling lowered. It's not a gas chamber, It's a film set, and this was simply a lifesaving shower room meant to keep inmates alive and free of diseases. The next room was used for inmate clothes. Only a few years ago, this was labeled as an experimental gas chamber, but that claim was quietly dropped. Too many people question the easily breakable window and the room within the alleged gas chamber, so this room has been downgraded and is now labeled as serving multiple purposes as a dressing room, clothes storage room, and a delousing room for clothes. The next section has been clearly Frankensteined and stitched to the previous rooms by the Soviets to create the grand finale for their haunted house. This is where the currently alleged homicidal gas chambers are located. Speaker 13: This this was added. This was added. Speaker 3: This was added. So they Speaker 13: would come out of here to go outside to go into there? Speaker 0: Yes. A plaque reads, in these chambers, poison gases were used to murder the prisoners. Carbon monoxide was supplied through metal pipes connected with 2 steel cylinders installed in the so called SS room. Through a barred window, SS men watched the extermination process. Exterminationists claimed that in this small room inmates were killed with carbon monoxide gas. As proof, they display bottles of carbon dioxide. You know, that molecule you breathe out every few seconds when you exhale air? Harmless bottles of carbon dioxide such as this are used every day to create carbonated beverages. What a blatant hoax. Next to this is a room which was used for delousing inmate clothing. It is not denied by the official story that the Germans had non homicidal delousing facilities for use on inmate clothing. Americans also use this life saving insecticide ziklon b. At the time, the deadly disease, typhus, carried by lice, was killing tens of 1,000 all over Europe as it had at previous times throughout history. Speaker 16: An epidemic struck the camp, and the freed prisoners were sprayed with DDT to prevent further deaths. Speaker 0: The exterminationists claim the Germans gassed Jews in here. In the past, there was even a wreath of flowers in here to honor the gassed Jews. As the Majdanek Museum Administration continues to revise the original bogus Soviet propaganda claims, there are no more flowers in this life saving German engineered facility for Dylas and clothing. Zionists claim the Germans watched through this peephole as Jews were gassed, But peepholes are common in air raid shelter doors. The revisionist scholar Samuel Crowell documented how the Germans ordered that throughout the network of camps, concrete buildings such as this were to serve a dual purpose and be ready to save lives in the event they were needed to be used in case of bomb or poison gas attack. There's absolutely nothing sinister or homicidal about a peephole. Mussolini himself had a peephole in one of his own personal air raid shelters. The British had similar peepholes in their World War 2 era anti gas shelters, which also had similar undressing rooms and showers in them. A peephole is used to check on those inside without letting potential poison gas into the shelter. Some air raid shelter doors have special equipment to quickly pass notes between the sealed inside and outside world. In fact, here we can see a recent photo of Israeli Jews seen through a peephole in a bomb shelter door. There is nothing sinister about a peephole, and this was not a factory of death. This was a life saving disinfection and clothes delousing facility located at the entrance of Majdanek. America had an almost identical process for immigrants arriving at Ellis Island. Speaker 5: As this happens to be a case of old world typhus fever, which is known to be spread by the body louse, the contacts, those who have had association with the patient during the voyage, are first taken to the delousing plant. Here they must remove all of their clothing, Spray with soap and water. Next you're sent under the shower. And finally, e one is sprayed with an insecticide that kills any lice or nits that may still remain in their hair. The clothing of these contacts is placed in net bags and these bags are sent to the fumigating room. This clothing, together with the baggage of the contacts, is placed in fumigating chambers where it is thoroughly disinfested. If necessary, the contacts are isolated in the detention hospital for observation. Every precaution is taken by the quarantine officers to prevent the introduction of disease into the United States. Speaker 0: What I was most surprised at seeing at Majdanek was a work of art created by the prisoners called Little Castle. It presents a very different and humane image of the network of camps alleged to have gassed millions of Jews. Artwork, theater, and music were common at these fraudulently alleged hells on Earth. Speaker 4: The bodies of 900,000 people believed to have been murdered at Treblinka have never been found. There are no surviving buildings, no trace of the gas chambers. What we do know about Treblinka 2 comes from just a handful of eyewitnesses. One of these was Russian writer, Vasili Grossman, who, in 1944, visited Treblinka and pieced together the first account of the extermination camp. Speaker 11: An excavator dug a pit 250 to 300 meters long, 20 to 25 meters wide. All this constituted a gigantic grill. 2 more grill pits of the same dimensions were constructed soon afterward. Each took 3 and a half to 4000 corpses at once. People who took part in the work of burning the corpses say that these grill pits were like giant volcanoes. Speaker 4: There were so many ashes, the Nazis forced locals to dispose of them nearby. Speaker 11: Peasants from the village of Volker were ordered to load them on their carts and scatter them along the road leading from the death camp to the labor camp. Child prisoners with spades then spread the ashes more evenly. Car wheels make a peculiar swishing sound along this road, and when I was taking along it, I kept hearing a sad whisper from beneath the wheels like a timid complaint. Speaker 0: Vasili Grossman wrote that he could hear the ghosts of those gassed on this road Coles bravely drives over today. Of course, sad whispers, timid complaints of gassed ghosts are not possible. Vasili Grossman was a Jewish propaganda writer for the Soviet Red Army. Grossman wrote fictional novels before the war. No wonder he injects impossible ghost stories into the narrative. His article, The Hell of Treblinka, was used at the Nuremberg trials as evidence for the prosecution. Grossman also claimed that 3,900,000 Jews were killed at Treblinka, but you'd have to believe in ghosts to believe his lies. This sad whisper stuff is bad fictional atrocity poetry. And these 3 giant cremation pits, 250 to 300 meters long, Where are they, Caroline? Speaker 11: 4,000 corpses at once. Speaker 0: Via satellite imagery, we can see that the symbolic cremation pit is only about 20 meters long. The pits claimed by Grossman are up to 15 times that length, and he claims there were 3 of them. Evidence of these outrageously large pits is nowhere to be found on the lidar radar. These giant volcanoes are just more wartime atrocity fiction. Speaker 4: Today, 17,000 stones symbolize the towns and villages where Jews were rounded up by the Nazis. A giant a giant Speaker 2: symbolic grill pit Speaker 4: represents the location where those hundreds of thousands of people are thought to have been cremated. Fragments of evidence of what happened here is still scattered across the ground. Speaker 13: So these are fragments of human bone that you can see have been cremated because they are they've been exposed to a high temperature. You can see some of them are white and some of them, like this one, show evidence of blackening. We've literally just walked around this space for a matter of minutes and already we're finding bone fragments and remnants of people's belongings. And it just gives you an overwhelming sense of the scale and horror that was Treblinka because you can't even imagine how how much people must have suffered here. And the fact that you can walk around this site and see these bone fragments 70 years later, no one came to look for them. Nobody gave them a proper burial. Speaker 0: The German government's TV channel shows a likely origin of these remains. Jews who today deliberately spread the remains of recently deceased, quote, holocaust survivors. Speaker 12: Alexander Verba is carrying his mother's ashes in this back. It's an unusual funeral procession without the customary trappings. Alexander has traveled from Israel with his sister Galila and his son to fulfill his mother's last wishes. She wanted her ashes to be brought here to the former death camp Treblinka. They're eager to get the ceremony over with as quickly as possible. Scattering ashes is illegal throughout Poland and is also at odds with Jewish burial practice. But this is what his mother wanted. Nonetheless, it wasn't easy for her son to make this journey. Speaker 11: Poland is, sucked with the Jewish blood in a way. Speaker 0: Jews are illegally dumping cremated remains at the alleged scene of the crime of the 20th century, and gullible archaeologists are picking them up and perpetuating the monstrous German death factory myth. If the Jewish Treblinka myth were true, Coles wouldn't have to point to likely recently scattered remains and bones of Christian Poles who died at an undetermined time. She'd be able to excavate Treblinka and exhume the immense undeniable remains of 900,000 Jews. But Jewish leaders refused to allow such an excavation. Speaker 4: Caroline meets with Michael Schudrich, the chief rabbi of Poland, to confirm that she has his support. The extermination camp is a Jewish burial site, and disturbing human remains here is forbidden. Speaker 13: When we get to the extermination camp, I don't want to be too invasive. I only want to dig small test pits pits just so I can confirm what some of the buildings are. One of the things I wanna take your advice on is, obviously, in the process of that, we perhaps will come across human remains. Speaker 6: In general, there are 2 ways you're gonna find, human remains. 1 is just on the surface. Speaker 3: Mhmm. Speaker 6: Those bones that were never buried. The bones that are right on the surface, whether sometimes you're gonna find them literally on the surface. On the monument. Right. Should be then gathered together and then we'll bury it somewhere afterwards. Speaker 13: Okay. Speaker 6: Then we'll have to discuss where where. If you actually find the mass grave, you have Speaker 4: to stop. Speaker 13: Yes. Of course. Speaker 3: It's simple. Speaker 13: Okay. Speaker 6: And if you're not sure Speaker 13: Call. Ask. Yep. Okay. Speaker 12: Thank you. It's real simple. Speaker 0: Mhmm. Jews such as this are impeding a true and complete excavation of Treblinka. The Polish government decided to excavate the ground at an alleged Jewish massacre site in the past and can decide to excavate the entire ground of Treblinka if they chose. A true and complete investigation is not allowed by the Zionist power structure because it would prove that the massive burial pits and remains of 900,000 Jews are not there. By refusing a complete exhumation, they are covering up their big lie. A complete excavation of the camp would exonerate the German people and effectively destroy the Jewish supremacist religious myth known as the Holocaust. The true cover up was done by the Soviet exterminationists. They themselves destroyed remaining covered up the site with these bizarre concrete stones, and they continue to impede a complete archaeological exhumation of the alleged crime scene. So without any evidence, we are supposed to just accept outrageous impossible claims such as the following. Speaker 4: Using the new more efficient gas chambers, it took just 20 minutes to kill 5,000 people. Based on shapes in the lidar data, which matches the dimensions of these gas chambers as reported by survivors, Caroline sinks trenches 45 in an open area close to the memorial. As the team dig deeper in both trenches, they find no evidence of a solid structure like bricks or concrete. Then Ivar makes a startling find. It's not a good sign. Speaker 2: So we find a shark tooth, and I'm not joking. It's not too well, this appears to be some other fossil. Speaker 4: That sand contained tiny fossils from when this whole area was a seabed 1000000 of years ago. Speaker 0: The Zionist archaeologists are able to find a shark tooth from when Poland was a sea 1000000 of years ago. If the average alleged Treblinka victim had 28 teeth and there were 900,000 Jews gassed at Treblinka, archaeologists should also be able to find close to the approximately 25,200,000 Jewish teeth buried or scattered only 70 years ago. If the Treblinka story were true, Coles would be inundated with the cremated remains of almost a1000000 Jews. After all, this is the largest single claimed mass burial site in the entire world. Think about the amount of evidence one murder leaves behind. But 900,000 Speaker 4: It's a major setback for Caroline and the last thing the team were expecting. Speaker 13: Are you finding any more things apart from the fossil material? Speaker 2: More fossils. Speaker 4: Caroline decides to stop, believing that in this area of the camp, a Nazi cleanup appears to have been effective. In her mission to find the gas chambers at the Nazi death camp, Treblinka, forensic archaeologist Caroline Sturdy Coles has only found a shark's tooth and is worried that all evidence of the gas chambers has been removed. She calls a meeting with historian Rob Van de Laas and aerial specialist Chris Gowing to help her identify new targets to excavate. Without any aerial photographs of the camp, Caroline only has maps drawn by a handful of camp survivors and commandant Franz Stangell as a guide. But the details on these maps conflict. Speaker 13: So witnesses didn't draw those maps until quite a long time after the events had taken place. And all of these maps, when we look at them together, we can see that they're all different in terms of the configuration of the buildings. They're all different in terms of shape. Speaker 11: The fact that they differ one from another, are people saying, well, if you can't agree what the site looks like and if you don't know where the gas chamber is, then then maybe there wasn't a gas chamber or something like that. Speaker 0: Why, yes. People do say there wasn't a gas chamber or the 13 gas chambers alleged. These maps conflict because this wasn't a factory of death, and these conflicting maps showing gas chambers and massive burial pits for 900,000 Jews are based on hearsay and imagination motivated by revenge. Speaker 13: If if if deniers arguments hinge on this, if if different witness testimonies differ about where these gas chambers were located, if we can find them, then we can answer questions that people have been asking for 70 years about that this very, very Speaker 3: important structure. Speaker 0: So called denier arguments do not hinge on the location of what was likely a life saving shower room reinforced for air raids. There's a convergence of evidence pointing to the Treblinka story and the larger holocaust story being an example of war atrocity propaganda run amok. One of our main points is that the ever changing alleged murder weapons are absurd ways to kill people. Let's talk about Hitler's killing machine. Throughout the documentary, they keep the actual killing method as vague as possible. They were gassed with what gas? The Treblinka myth first started as a hot steam chamber with trap doors where 2,000,000 Jews were steamed to death like lobsters. Small children are flung over the heads of the women. When the cells are filled, they are closed and sealed. Steam is forced through apertures, and suffocation of the victims begins. At first, cries can be heard, but these gradually subside and after 15 minutes, all is silent. The execution is over. When the trap is open to let the bodies drop down, they fall in a compact mass, stuck together by the heat and steam. This completely imagined story about Jews being steamed to death like lobsters and dropped through a trap door is unbelievable, impossible, and stupid. However, claims of Treblinka's steam chambers were introduced as evidenced by the Soviets at the Nuremberg trials. For years, the accepted murder weapon then became diesel from a captured Soviet tank. But German American engineer Friedrich Paul Berg proved that diesel is extremely inefficient for mass murder containing low amounts of carbon monoxide and even oxygen. So now extermination is claim a slightly more believable gasoline engine was the weapon of mass destruction. There are nowhere near the remains of 900,000 Jews located there because they weren't gassed there. Coupled with Jews themselves who claim they were transited through Treblinka to other camps along with tens of thousands of others and not gassed. Denier arguments do not hinge on the location of likely shower buildings. There's a convergence of evidence to prove the conspiracy theory of 900,000 Jews gassed at Treblinka to be false. Speaker 4: Caroline wants to discover more about some of the people who died at Treblinka and where they came from. She heads for Warsaw. When the Germans invaded the city, 1 third was Jewish. Soon, 350,000 Jews found themselves trapped in a ghetto covering 3 and a half square kilometers. 300,000 jewels is Speaker 3: and here are probably more Speaker 13: Yeah. I mean, this is just the the the amount that was taken from here. Speaker 0: Coles is in front of a memorial which reads, along this path of suffering and death, over 300,000 Jews were driven in 1940 2 to 1943 from the Warsaw ghetto to the gas chambers of the Nazi extermination camps. The creators of the memorial decided to engrave 400 common Jewish first names. Could you imagine the Vietnam Memorial with Joe, Michael, James written on it? Speaker 4: Instead of isolating and containing the Jews, they were now to be sent to the death factory by railway. Speaker 0: Warsaw Jews weren't sent to death factories. We know tens of thousands were relocated to work in real factories. For instance, those in towns such as Ponytaowa and Travniki. These Warsaw Jews, along with a collection of Jews from all over, claim they were transited through Treblinka and not gassed in this secret pure extermination camp. How long were you in Treblinka? Speaker 3: 3 hours, 4 hours. Speaker 17: After few hours, some prisoner's came and cleaned, the cars we came and we were 50 by a car and we went someplace. They sent us to concentration camp, Maidana concentration camp. Speaker 18: There were some, around 300 people, youngsters. They were cleaning out whatever, people left behind, and the minute they were done cleaning, taking everything out, the Germans marched us, us riding into the same wagon, and we received small pieces of, bread with some so called coffee. There was the imitation of coffee made by Germans. Speaker 13: You were one of those 500? Speaker 19: I was the 500. We stayed for one day in Treblinka, and then this brought us back to Warsaw. And from Warsaw, they took us to Leblin to Majdanek. Speaker 13: And so you you said that you already knew what was happening in Treblinka? Speaker 3: We knew, but we Speaker 19: still knew nothing. Speaker 13: You saw the evidence. You saw Speaker 2: with your eyes. Speaker 19: No. You cannot see nothing. Speaker 11: So what happened to these 350? Where were you taken? Speaker 20: The 3 50 people was I'm gonna have happy. We're going to work, blue, beautiful, and they send us to Lublin, Majdanek. Speaker 3: So when I came to Lublin. I was in the first valley. Mhmm. There was there was maybe them to Majdanek. Lord, they've been trying the same night, and we landed up in Majdanek. The whole transport is there. It's, registered in. It's there. Speaker 0: We're told the Nazis used transited to the east as a code word to mean gassed at extermination camps. Speaker 3: And the New York Post says every American family should see Holocaust. Speaker 4: The trains aren't going to Russia. Speaker 2: Where are they going? Treblinka. Another Polish work here? Speaker 4: It's a death camp. Speaker 0: Yet there is credible evidence of 100 of thousands of Jews being expelled eastwards. The book Treblinka, extermination camp or transit camp provides many more reports of Jews actually transited east. Speaker 4: Trenches 45 offered little more than the shark's tooth, but her lidar survey is suggesting a new site in an area where the first gas chambers could be located. So she digs 2 new trenches, 6 and 7. Speaker 13: We've got this area which is is a visible earthwork. It was the base thing that showed up on the lidar survey. So what we wanted to do was to excavate this to try and establish what the cause of the earthwork is. We know there's something here, but we don't know what. Speaker 4: The team now feel they're on the trail of something new. Speaker 13: Are there any coin experts? Speaker 4: And evidence of a human catastrophe begins to emerge. Speaker 21: We got a very small comb here with quite a few complete teeth. Then in addition, we've got 2 other elements of what we think are combs. It is nice to find other objects which can tell a story so they can trace perhaps where they were made and what part of Poland they came from and that sort of thing. Speaker 0: There's nothing sinister about these small objects as we know that everyone had to turn their valuables in at every German camp, including these Jews who claimed they were transited through Treblinka. Speaker 3: They ask to throw in everything that we have. Documents, rings, whatever. Speaker 22: We were told to get undressed. We were told to give up any money or any valuables. They had a, like, a booth or a stand on one side with a sign to give to turn everything in. I threw my my earrings away. I didn't wanna hand them over and some other things, and we started getting undressed. Speaker 4: The camp could now process around 6,000 people within 20 minutes as long as the railways could maintain the supply. Very few Jews saw the gas chambers and survived. Ibrahim Krepitsky was deported to the Treblinka extermination camp on the 25th August, 1942. His work as a slave laborer gave him access to even the most secret part of the camp. Speaker 11: I was able to look through one of the 2 strong doors. I saw a room which was not too large. It looked like a regular shower room with all the features of a public bathhouse. The walls of the room were covered with small white tiles. The floor was covered with orange terracotta tiles. Speaker 0: Yep. Clearly, must be a genocidal gas chamber. Here's what Abraham, sir Picay, claims in more detail. I had already come quite close to it several times when I and others had been carrying water for the lime and clay from the well which stood right next to the building. So there was a well next to the building which looked exactly like a shower room because it was. Now I noticed that spread over the flat roof of the building, there was a green wire net whose edges extended slightly beyond the building's walls. This may have been for protection against air attacks. Beneath the net, on top of the roof, I could see a tangle of pipes. The walls of the building were covered with concrete. In Warsaw, right around the corner from the Warsaw Umslug Plots Monument and a symbolic marker for the boundaries of the Warsaw Ghetto, I came across a concrete structure apparently protected from air raids with green metal extending beyond the building's concrete walls similar to that described by Kserpikki. Revisionist Samuel Crowell has proven that throughout the German controlled areas at this time, structures from Warsaw to Majdanek were being reinforced to protect against Allied air raids. So such protection at Treblinka is nothing special. I saw before me a room which was not too large. It looked like a regular shower room with all the accoutrements of a public bathhouse. The walls of the room were covered with small white tiles. It was very fine clean work. The floor was covered with orange terracotta tiles. Nickel plated metal faucets were set into the ceiling. Comfortable neat little bathhouse set in the middle of a wooded area. There was nothing more to see. This was a real shower room located next to a well just like the midonic shower room is located next to a well. Perhaps the original rumors of hot steam chambers were due to the sometimes scalding hot water used to disinfect prisoners. Speaker 13: For the men, within 8 to 10 minutes of arriving in Treblinka, they will be dead. They will be killed in the gas chambers. And for the women, it was more like 15 minutes because of the fact that they had to have even further humiliation. They had to have their head shaved before they actually took that walk into the gas chambers themselves. Speaker 0: What? Shaving inmate hair was a life saving measure. In order to to prevent deadly typhus carrying lice from killing them, hardly further humiliation. In fact, proof they weren't gassed. Speaker 4: Then the discovery Caroline couldn't dare hope for. Speaker 2: Come on. Speaker 0: On. Oh my gosh. Speaker 3: Wow. That's something. Speaker 13: That's just turned up tonight. That's amazing. Speaker 2: About just 30 seconds ago. Oh, god. Speaker 3: Yeah. It was over here. Yeah. I have 4 tiles. Speaker 2: Mhmm. Three yellow ones and one red one. Mhmm. And these are small fragments and this one is almost complete. Okay. And as you see, the star star of David is on the Speaker 4: bottom, which is quite remarkable. Speaker 13: Yeah. Absolutely. And isn't it? Speaker 2: You see the Star of David on this one also. Speaker 13: Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2: But have you ever seen those tiles? No. Tiles that fits with, idea that we are in the area of the gas chambers. Speaker 13: Yeah. What immediately springs to my mind when I see these is is that witnesses who were allowed in the gas chamber area talked about the the the Star of David actually being on the outside of the gas chamber buildings to build up that illusion that people were going to somewhere that was safe. I mean, we know, for example, that the the the insides of the gas chambers was was furnished as it were. It would have had permanent building materials to give the illusion that people were going into a bath bathhouse. Speaker 2: Okay. Amazing. Incredible. Speaker 3: And, Speaker 4: a few tiles with what appear to be the Star of David and sections of masonry offer the first signal that Caroline's hunch was right. Speaker 0: This is an oddly edited and staged scene in order to give extra importance to these terracotta tiles. Speaker 3: That's something. Speaker 0: One can see that these close-up shots of hands are of other people's bare hands. Speaker 3: Yeah. It was over here. Speaker 0: The Dutch archaeologist is wearing gloves. Speaker 3: That's something. That's just Speaker 13: a little small. That's amazing. Speaker 2: Now it just Speaker 0: And that can't be Coles' hands because Coles is wearing rings on both hands in a different wardrobe. The hands of a person in blue are without rings and also appear much more aged. They used insert shots of other people's hands to pass off this scene as the original, quote, discovery of the tiles. This entire scene might as well be a reenactment. It seems like the real initial discovery of these tiles was made when the camera crews weren't rolling and they are reenacting or worse, begging the question, why are the archaeologists acting? Speaker 13: Yeah. Absolutely. And isn't it? Speaker 2: You see the Star of David on this one also. Yeah. Speaker 0: Look how easily he slides out a tile. He already knows his hole. He had to have previously slid it out of this spot and put it back in for the cameras. But of course, there is absolutely nothing sinister about terracotta tiles and revisionist deny they belong to a homicidal gas chamber. First of all, this is not the star of David. This symbol, a 6 pointed solid star with a dot in its center, is known in the heraldic world as a pierced mullet star, not a star of David, and is not unusual for porcelain marks and coats of arms around Europe. This pierced mullet star surrounded by a circle and with a clear letter d to its left is in fact a brand mark of a 125 year old porcelain factory in Poland. In addition, this symbol is imprinted on the back of the tile which means that the symbol side would have been attached to the floor and would not have been visible whatsoever. This makes Coles' absurd claim that star of David tiles were chosen to deceive people into thinking they were going somewhere safe. Complete nonsense. In order to fit her predetermined, pro extermination conclusions for her Zionist backers, Coles and her prejudice team have completely misidentified a tile brand mark. A similar ignorant jump to homicidal conclusions took place when in real shower rooms, Jewish concentration camp inmates were given bars of soap with the initials r I f imprinted on it. They believed this read r j f and jumped to the conclusion that this stood for Reichs Juden Fit, pure Jewish fat, and they were washing themselves with the fat of gas Jews. Speaker 10: Every part of our bodies was shaved, and we were led into showers, And we were getting the piece of soap, this r I f on a dryneutin fat, which one pure Jewish fat. And it was a soft piece, a square little says, which part of my parents or my sisters am I gonna be washed with? That went through my mind. And we got in there, and a little water dripped down. Nobody recognized anybody. We did not know who, what, Maya, but I recognized a cousin of mine because she had a little growth on near her right ear. And I went over quite a lot of this Gola, and here she recognized my name. And we stood supposedly under the shower, and we waited. And a few drops of water came down, and we hear a woman's announcement, eins siphon, that means, soap yourself. And I said to my cousin, cousin, I says, tell me, does the gas works better when your body is wet? Speaker 0: But the initials r I f f actually stood for Rijkstel for Industrial Fettversorgung, National Center For Industrial Fat Provisioning, the German government agency responsible for wartime production and distribution of soap and washing products. RIF soap was a poor quality substitute product that actually contained no fat at all, human or These are simply terracotta tiles and do These are simply terracotta tiles and do not prove any sinister intent. By jumping to her ignorant Zionist conclusion, misidentifying an innocuous European heraldic brand on these tiles, implying homicidal intent. Caroline Coles joins the company of human soap atrocity rumor mongers Speaker 10: I f. Speaker 0: Who misidentified the initials on bars of German soap. Speaker 4: Satisfied that she's found proof of the gas chambers, Caroline has no choice but to rebury the evidence, but it's not easy. Speaker 13: We've identified the the location of the old gas chambers here and in doing that, what we've done is prove that the Nazis couldn't hide all traces of their crimes. Speaker 4: Caroline, working for the first time with the latest technology, has made important discoveries at Treblinka. She has confirmed the location of 3 new mass graves in Treblinka 1, providing further evidence that this place was a site of mass murder. And in Treblinka 2, Caroline has succeeded in pinpointing the location of the gas chambers. Speaker 0: To sum up, Coles dug up bones in an area clearly marked as a Christian cemetery and claimed to find hidden mass graves. She found cremated remains at a symbolic memorial where Jews are known to spread cremated remains. She found a shark's tooth. She falsely identified the remains of a building in order to fit the myth that it was a gas chamber, which helped gas 900,000 Jews. Speaker 4: The bricks, tiles, and concrete discovered at the extermination camp will now be tested for chemicals to better understand what happened here. Speaker 0: When these tiles are tested for chemicals, if not tampered with by the hoaxers, they will acquit the Germans of wrongdoing. Speaker 4: From July 1942 through to November 1943, the Germans killed around 900,000 Jews at Treblinka. Speaker 13: It's too much, actually, to to kind of comprehend. It just makes you think, you know, if if the whole Earth of Treblinka was opened up, what kind of hell you'd be looking Speaker 2: into? Speaker 0: The alleged scientist talks about the religious concept of hell, but there's no such thing. It's just another literal demonization of the Germans to claim that underneath Treblinka, there is a hell holding the remains of 900,000 Jews. Truth advocates want the complete exhumation of the site, knowing this would exonerate the Germans as the grounds of Treblinka do not contain the rabbi are covering up the evidence, not truth seekers. The rabbi are covering up the evidence, not truth seekers. 1 can walk all around the alleged former extermination site without finding any obvious massive ground disturbances. However, between the alleged Treblinka 2 site and the gravel pit, I came across an area that looked as if it would be a suitable site for mass graves. This blue circle shows the GPS location. There are large seemingly unnatural movements of the otherwise mostly flat ground. Then, what looks like marks where excavators dug into the earth. And bones. But not human. Getting closer, it seems like a horse skeleton. A huge pelvis bone and the intact jawbone give it away. Looking closer, we can see darker colored dirt with what appears to be cremated remains. We would be able to find scenes like this times 900,000 if the alleged hell of Treblinka were opened up. However, this hell simply does not exist. Holocaust promoters often go to camps such as SobeBor or Treblinka and find bone fragments on the ground, jumping to the conclusion that they belong to humans. However, there are animal bones all around these heavily forested areas. A short distance from these remains, I came across what appears to be a rib bone of a horse as well. And further on, large parts of a horse's skull. Holocaust exterminationists use this photo claimed to have been taken when the Soviets discovered Treblinka as proof of the Nazi murder of almost a 1000000 Jews. However, these bones almost certainly are too big for a human. From the long rib bones to the very large and thick leg bones, They are likely more animal bones. Walking over this site, I could feel more bones under my feet. Was this burial site with likely excavator shovel marks created recently by local farmers or in the past by the Soviets or before them, the Nazis? Are there human remains buried here too or more animal remains? One thing's for sure, we won't find the truth about this gravesite with Zionist holo scammers impeding true forensic investigation. The official myth is that almost every Jew sent to Treblinka 2 was immediately gassed, but there are several Jews who claimed to have been transferred through Treblinka to other camps along with thousands of other Jews. I even emailed Caroline Coles pointing out these transited Jews, but received no response. Caroline Sturdy Coles has made a mockery of the science of forensic archaeology, jumping to absurd Zionist conclusions. She has not found evidence of the mass murder of 900,000 Jews at Treblinka. And in fact, her lidar radar shows there are no massive burial pits which could have held the alleged 900,000 gassed there. Caroline Kohl's channel 5 propaganda documentary appeared alongside the ridiculous documentaries, Nazi Quest for the Holy Grail, and Hitler's 911, which claimed that Hitler was planning a September 11th style attack on Manhattan. Caroline Coles' archeological hoax was broadcast by channel 5 in Britain and the Smithsonian Channel in America. The Smithsonian channel is a joint venture by the US government owned Smithsonian Institute and the CBS Corporation owned by Jewish billionaire, Murray Rothstein, who also owns MTV and Nickelodeon among other media outlets. Recently, the British Channel 5, previously owned by Jewish billionaire Richard Desmond, was sold to Murray Rothstein's Viacom. When Jewish owned transnational mass media conglomerates have a monopoly on the major organs of influencing public opinion, they can get the masses and you to believe anything. The holocaust of 6,000,000 Jews mostly gassed in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms, has become a modern religious myth. Speaker 4: Wings. Doose. Speaker 3: Do Speaker 2: some. Doose. Speaker 3: Doose. Doose. Your Ayamuda? Speaker 0: In many countries, those who question the Orthodox Holocaust story are physically attacked, financially bankrupted, and sentenced to lengthy prison terms simply for opposing the absurd, scientifically impossible gas chambers disguised as shower rooms lie. But history shows they're in good company. In the 1600, the legendary Italian scientist and astronomer Galileo supported the controversial and heretical new theory that planet Earth was not center of the universe, and that the Earth revolved around the sun. Faced with religious persecution from the Catholic church, claiming biblical verses proved the world was stationary and immobile, he was brought before the Roman inquisition. Galileo was ordered, quote, to abstain completely from teaching or defending this doctrine, an opinion, or from discussing it, to abandon completely the opinion that the sun stands still at the center of the world and the earth moves, and henceforth not to hold, teach, or defend it in any way whatever, either orally or in writing, the inquisition's injunction against Galileo, 1616. Galileo was threatened with torture, found suspect of heresy, and sentenced to house arrest for the rest of his life. His books were banned, and publication of his works was forbidden. In the 19 nineties, German certified chemist and PhD candidate, Gerhard Roedoff, investigated the alleged homicidal gas chambers, performed tests on them, and and issued a report proving the alleged Auschwitz homicidal gas chambers couldn't possibly have functioned as such. One can see today the blue staining in clothing disinfestation rooms which use zyclon b, even penetrating through brick to the outside. This telltale blue staining is not present whatsoever in the remains of the alleged Auschwitz homicidal gas chambers. As a result of publishing his publishing his scientific report, he has been relentlessly persecuted around the world, sentenced to 2 years and 6 months in prison, and and his books were confiscated and burned in waste incinerators under police supervision. After being reprimanded in court by representatives of the pope that the earth was fixed and immobile, the urban is that Galileo uttered the line in protest under his breath, and yet it moves. We are told by the holocaust mythmakers that almost every Jew who was sent to Treblinka was immediately gassed. How long were you in Treblinka? Speaker 3: 3 hours. 4 hours. Speaker 9: They picked out 500 young men. They put us back in the cars. In the morning, we came in from Treblinka back to Lublin. Speaker 0: And yet, they move. Speaker 2: Body is Speaker 14: wet. There's a miracle. I don't know how, what then. Water came down. We started to guess.

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American vs German Gas Chambers. (Fred Leuchter)

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The speaker, a consulting engineer, discusses their work designing and constructing execution hardware for states in the United States with capital punishment. They explain the design and operation of a gas chamber, emphasizing safety measures such as gasketed doors, a plumbing system, and explosion-proof lighting. The speaker also mentions the process of cleaning the chamber and the body after an execution. They clarify that the gas chamber is not suitable for mass killings and that the facilities they inspected in Auschwitz were not used for extermination. The speaker concludes by discussing an experimental gas chamber used for delousing purposes.
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Speaker 0: Mister Leifster, what is your job? Speaker 1: I'm a consulting engineer. I work in the United States with, states that have capital punishment designing and constructing execution hardware. Speaker 0: Do you work officially then in conjunction with the American prison system? Speaker 1: I do. I I design and construct hardware that's used for execution purposes. I repair, redesign, and modify equipment that's presently in use. Specifically, I have designed and constructed electrocution hardware, electric chairs, gallows, lethal injection systems, and gas chambers. Speaker 0: Are you yourself capable of building a functional gas chamber? Speaker 1: Yes. Indeed. Speaker 0: Hello, John. We appreciate this opportunity to see your facility. Glad to meet you. This week's state for the Speaker 2: We'll grab our equipment then, and Speaker 0: we'll go on down to the dev house. They got Speaker 2: a tape and measurements. Speaker 1: This particular chamber was installed in the early fifties. It is the same identical design to chambers that was installed in prisons here in the United States as early as the early 19 twenties. Well, first off, the chamber as you can see is of all steel construction. It's welded. It is in fact a tank constructed much like a diving bell. The windows are all gasketed and they're coated before each execution with Vaseline to prevent leakage. The door is likewise gasketed and Vaseline and has a fastening system which seals the door against this gasket to prevent leakage. This chamber then further is accurate operated under a partial vacuum. Above my head in the ceiling is an exhaust port from which the chamber is normally evacuated when they're removing the gas. That fan in this particular chamber operates during the entire execution. It pulls the chamber down to a pressure which is below that of the outside atmosphere, ensuring that if anything does in fact leak, all leakage would be inward. Further, the system has a plumbing system which this gas chamber has a plumbing system which is under this floor in a small room which runs over to an adjacent room on the other side which is called the chemical room. The chemical room has the mixing container, which is connected directly to the gas generator underneath the chamber and underneath the seat. The acid is mixed and then poured into the piping system, which then carries it under the chamber. On command from the warden, the sodium cyanide brickets or pellets, which are in a container under this chair, are dropped into the gas generator. The gas then comes up into the chamber and kills the person who's occupying the chamber. There is a system of valves on the plumbing system to prevent any gas from flowing back, plus the fact the plumbing system is filled with water ensuring an additional water seal to prevent gas from backing up even if the valves do leak. Just outside the chamber is the main air intake. That is opened only after the execution. Prior to the execution, the air intake is filled with water to a certain level, again, to prevent backflow of the gas through the intake even though the intake is closed and sealed. Around the inside of the chamber are intake ports that are connected to the main intake on the outside of the gas chamber. All of the lighting in the chamber and there were 3 lamps over my head, 1 over the door and 2 chest behind the seats. All of this lighting is explosion proof. It had it has glass envelopes covering the bulbs and caulk and rubber gaskets inside So that the the envelope is screwed against the fixture preventing any gas or anything in the air outside from getting inside at the bulb and and seeing any sparking. So as you can see from looking at this facility, it it is engineered from a standpoint that if a leak occurs, it will be inward. The explosion capabilities of the gas are considered because all of the lighting is explosion proof. Now when operating the system, there is a protocol that has to be rigidly followed and a checklist that the operators utilize while doing the execution. From the mixing of the chemicals to the inserting of the chemicals to the closing of the valves and sealing of the system, everything has to be done and redundantly checked to make sure there was no leak and no operating personnel or any state witnesses for that matter who would be in the room directly behind me from being gassed. The operating protocol and the design is essentially what makes this chamber safe for operation. After the execution, the chamber would be evacuated for at least 15 minutes to make sure that there was no air containing gas left in the chamber. The chamber also has inlet ports in the inlet piping system that supplies the fresh air for the evacuation of the chamber. It has inlet ports for the introduction of ammonia vapor. The ammonia vapor neutralizes the gas that's left in the chamber prior to it being pumped out through the scrap on the roof. After the chamber has been completely exhausted, the door would then be opened. The door would not be opened until all of the people outside were satisfied that there was no longer any gas in the chamber. There is generally a watch glass containing phenolphthalein solution someplace in the chamber which is visible through the window that the operator would view. The phenolphthalein solution changes color. And when there is no gas and the color is red, then a determination is made and only then that the chamber can be safely opened. After the chamber is opened, those persons who are assigned the task of cleansing the body enter the chamber wearing gas masks. Gas masks especially designed for hydrogen cyanide gas. Now I should point out that these gas these gas masks are not designed for operating in an atmosphere of hydrogen cyanide. They are only used as a safety measure for residual cyanide that might be in the chamber or in the air. The those tests with cleaning the body then remove the individual's clothing and wash the individual's body, completely. 1 would ruffle his hair to make sure that there is no longer any gas left in the hair. After the body has been washed and depending upon the location and who is responsible for running the execution, the body might be washed with either ammonia, with bleach, or with caustic soda. After the body has been cleaned, it would then be redressed and turned over to the undertaker or the individual's family for burial. Speaker 0: What would happen if one did not wash the corpse of the gas leak? Speaker 1: There would be residual hydrogen cyanide on the individual. Now if the individual left here for a number of hours, the cyanide would probably become inert. But since the individual is handled and the doctor must pronounce the individual dead, undertakers must handle the body, immediately after the execution. It is necessary to wash the body. The residual cyanide on the individual's body, if handled with a non gloved hand and then placed in the proximity of one's mouth, one's eyes, or any orifice of the body, or if the glove leaked and the individual got someone on his skin, there was a potential for death due to cyanide poisoning. Yes. After the execution and after the ammonia was sprayed into the chamber and neutralized any remaining hydrogen cyanide, the individual's body is then washed and removed. Then cleanup work begins in the chamber. The chamber is washed with with water. The plumbing system is purged with caustic soda, and this will ensure that there's no residue. The chair and all surfaces in the chamber have to be hosed down after the ammonia spring, and all of the straps have to be soaked, washed, and then resealed. These straps are of leather construction. Speaker 0: For the extraction of the gases, is the exhaust system recommended? Speaker 1: Yes. An exhaust system must be utilized. The exhaust system has to be capable of clearing the chamber within 2 to 3 minutes Speaker 0: maximum. What would be the recommended minimum height of the exhaust stacks for the endangered people in the immediate area? Speaker 1: The stack should be of sufficient height to clear any surrounding structures. The normal height is approximately 40 feet. Speaker 0: With what kind of gas do the American Gas Chambers operate? Speaker 1: American Chambers all utilize one type, hydrogen cyanide gas, which is the same as allegedly used by the Germans and known as Zyklon B. Speaker 0: What temperature is Speaker 1: Zyklon B vaporizes or condenses depending upon which direction one is looking, at 78 degrees Fahrenheit. That means that in order to utilize Zyklon B, we have to pump air that's been heated to an excess of 80 degrees through the actual Zyklon B carrier. In terms of evacuating the chamber, we need air which is at least 80 and perhaps 90 degrees being pumped through the chamber to prevent any condensation of the gas on the walls, floor, ceiling, chair, or the occupant of the chamber. Speaker 0: Does the gas chamber have to be absolutely air sensitive? Speaker 1: Yes. It does. And the gas chamber also again should be operated with a negative pressure. In other words, there should be less air pressure inside the chamber than out so in the event that a leak does develop, the leak will always be inward. Fresh air will be sucked into the chamber, but no gas will be sucked into the room. Speaker 0: Is the United States the only country that in the present past using the gas chambers and that's the only people? Yes. It is. How many people could be gas in this gas chamber? Speaker 1: 1 and possibly 2. There has been never a gas chamber ever constructed which executed more than 2 persons. Speaker 0: How many people could we kill within a 24 hour period in this task, you know? Speaker 1: Well, considering the time it takes to set up for the execution, clean the body and clean the chamber after the execution so it is then safe to use, This time is approximately 2 hours, which would mean that our maximum usage, assuming we could actually run the system 24 hours a day, would give us approximately 12 persons. Speaker 0: What would happen if we were to pack people shoulder to shoulder in the stashed chamber and try to mask gas? Would the people not suffocate instead of being gas? Speaker 1: Yes. The gas would not circulate. The people would suffocate. We would be unable to remove the gas on the air inside due to the fact that these many persons would be blocking the intake vents. And those people that are operating in the chamber would die would die immediately upon opening the door to the chamber. Speaker 0: You are clearly inspected the so called gas chambers that the term was used in the 3rd writing and also taking samples from for chemical analysis. To what conclusion did you come to? Speaker 1: I determined that none of these chambers could have supported an execution facility for human beings. In fact, they were not used for that purpose. Speaker 2: Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm an engineer from Boston in the United States, and I'm here this snowy morning here at Auschwitz, Poland. The date is February 28th. It's approximately 10:30 AM, and I'm here to examine this alleged gas Speaker 0: chamber and bring that evidence before the Canadian cause. Speaker 1: For questions relevant to Speaker 0: the use of this structure. Speaker 3: Some people feel it was Speaker 2: an area shelter. Other people Speaker 0: feel that it was simply a morgue, and then there Speaker 2: were those that feel the structure function is a gas chain. It's a gassing people and sending them on their way to their Speaker 0: death. So Speaker 3: at this point, we will begin looking at the facility, how to make a determination Speaker 0: on what its most probable and most practical uses were. Thank you. Speaker 2: This is Fred Weiser again. I'm standing inside the alleged gas chamber, and I'm about to take samples from the wall and ceiling material, essentially the water, the suckle, and the brick. And these samples will be documented and later taken for annualization to determine if there's any residual cyanate in the modern brick material. You will note I'm wearing surgical gloves to prevent any contamination of the sample and, additionally, to prevent any contamination myself if there were any residual chemicals in the brick. Likewise, I'm wearing a dust mask to keep down any contamination if there was anything there. Speaker 0: Okay, Speaker 2: I'd like to call for everyone's attention. This would be extremely important if the room was used as a gas tank to remove the residual hydrogen cyanide gas that had occurred to the walls. It would be a reasonable by a great deal of the gas in a liquid state on the walls, polluted in water, which would cause a gas. This would adhere to the walls saturated in water more brick, and it would be necessary to avoid Gilbar to wash the moon down after each usage. Now this water from the walls would then run into this flood. And unfortunately, we get into the entire drainage system of the king. There are drains like this, tie into the drainage system at every doorway of every building in this facility. That would mean there would be prostagasic, the possibility of hydrogen anyone on the premises. Speaker 0: Whatever this blue material is, it appears as though it's it's a it's it's a bluish color, which matches the color of Speaker 2: the supposed cyanide stamage that we found at the Delosse facility at Berkeld. But the cyanide colored material and the stain does not go deep enough into the whitewash or plaster surface on this wall Speaker 3: to have been deposited over any time period off from a contactless sign. Speaker 2: We know from what we found at Reginald that the color went much deeper. This material looks as though it was swabbed on. There appear to be streaks in it. And second, it appears as though in in some areas, it just touches the high spots of the surface area where there are high points on the stucco surface. So it appears as though this material was deposited by hand with a brush or swab, and the color is a color that we would liken to the cyanide color. This Speaker 3: is Fred Leuchter again. I'm standing in the experimental gas chamber area at my neck at Lublin. I'm gonna give a recap of everything I've seen here on my trip to Poland. The first location that we stopped at was Auschwitz 1, In an examination of the gas chamber facility there, it is in my best engineering opinion that the facility was not ever used as a gas chamber for extermination of people or Wirman. We move along to Auschwitz 2 and I examined several locations at Auschwitz 2. It is my opinion also that the areas at the at Auschwitz too were not used for purposes of exterminating people, but was simply used for delousing. We looked at our delousing facility, and I it's a facility that all seem to agree we use for purposes. In that facility, we saw blue dye stained into the walls, which we believe to be the remnants of the cyclone b gas. Those materials haven't will be taken back to the United States for chemical analysis. I'll look at the other gas chamber facilities indicated the presence of no such stain in any of the gas chamber facilities where the crematoria were located. We move along to my Midec, and I've looked at all of the facilities here. There is one rebuilt gas chamber, which does not appear to be capable of have having been used for even the extermination of Vehrman. It's 3 o'clock in the afternoon here at Majdanek, and I hope everyone will excuse the interruption, but we're asked to leave the premises by the god who is closing the facility. I was in the process of explaining what I thought had taken place up at the new rebuilt gas chamber facility with the crematory, a short distance from the location. In the background, you see the experimental station that I was standing in earlier. The rebuilt gas chamber and crematory does not appear to have been used for extermination either of human beings or of women. Now we're we'll discuss briefly the experimental gas chamber that you see behind me. This gas chamber is unique. There are 2 rooms or 2 separate chambers. 1 was apparently used for carbon monoxide, and one was used for cyclone b. The uniqueness of the facility sets it apart from all of the others. The doors are gasketed, and there were apparently heated air returns, which pumped the air from the chamber through a heater back into the room. This would seem to indicate that the Germans were trying to develop a more rapid procedure for delousing clothing, blankets, etcetera. Up until this time, the delousing normally took place over a 2 to 3 day period where they would spend one day with the gas in the room. They would spend another day or 2 airing the room out. Most of the areas that they used had few windows or doors because they didn't want the gas to leak out and hurt anyone outside the facility, and it generally took longer to eliminate the gas at the Delausing facility than it would if you normally exterminated the building. And what it appears was being developed here is not an ex an extermination capability for people because the gas chambers are much too small. And it would really not be feasible to build a gas chamber large enough to gas a 100 or more people. The facility that we have here seems to be simply on a large version of the Gegh Degesch delousing chamber, which is made of metal and had a air pumping system which pumped hot air from the chamber through the heater back into the chamber to accelerate the hydrogen cyanide gas from to accelerate the hydrogen cyanide gas's evaporation from the pellets into the air and the circulation throughout the room. So the facility we see behind us, there's no reason for this facility to be assumed to have been an extermination center. This was simply a new development in testing standard conventional relaunching procedures in an attempt to speed them up and make them safer and much simpler.

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David Cole was threatened to recant his statements.

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🧵David Cole, a Jewish Holocaust revisionist got Dr. Franciszek Piper, chair of the Historical Department at Auschwitz to admit on camera that the smoke stacks to the gas chambers were built AFTER the liberation. He also pokes holes in their narrative about the “Death Wall” where 20,000 Jews were allegedly executed via firing squad, they admit there’s never been restoration on the wall, yet there’s absolutely no holes or deterioration on the wall. In 1998 Irv Rubin, chairman of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) offered a monetary reward for information regarding Cole's whereabouts. Funny enough, the Anti-Defamation League stated that the JDL's reward offer implied that "it was prepared to take immediate, possibly violent, action" in order to "get rid" of Cole. He was essentially forced to recant his statements. Irv Rubin even bragged about it. Personally this makes The Holocaust even harder to believe for me, why would the JDL & ADL attack another fellow Jew so fiercely, so much so that he’s changed his name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cole_(journalist)

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THE HOLOCAUST UNVEILED The Truth About the Holocaust and Persecution of Revisionists. Why do these people get attacked for simply asking questions? The truth fears no investigation. Highly recommend people watch some of these videos with an open mind, before too long it'll be illegal to even question it in the US, it already is in many other countries. Bookmark & Share.

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Ernst Zündel got dragged into Canadian court for questioning it.

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Holocaust on Trial - Ernst Zündel's Court Trial in Canada. (1980s Media Excerpts) See the patterns of how they treat people that don't immediately believe everything they say? It's quite ironic the Jewish Defense League offered a monetary reward for information regarding David Cole's whereabouts, he's a Jewish man that questioned their big story. The Anti-Defamation League stated that the JDL's reward offer implied that "it was prepared to take immediate, possibly violent action" in order to "get rid" of Cole. In response to the threat, Cole entered a deal with Irv Rubin, chairman of the JDL where Cole renounced his views & the JDL removed the "reward offer." On the JDL website, Rubin bragged that Cole's recantation is "evidence of the power of the Jewish Defense League." Cole later admitted in his autobiography that his "recantation" was false. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cole_(journalist)

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Ernst Zundel, a Toronto publisher, was charged with publishing false information about the Holocaust. The trial sparked a debate about freedom of speech and the validity of Holocaust denial. Zundel argued that the Germans did not kill 6 million Jews and that the Holocaust was a hoax. He faced protests and threats from Jewish organizations and was eventually found guilty of publishing anti-Jewish literature. Zundel was sentenced to 15 months in jail and there were calls for his deportation. The trial highlighted the sensitive nature of the Holocaust and the importance of historical accuracy.
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Speaker 0: A man charged with deliberately falsifying information on the Holocaust appeared at Old City Hall Court this afternoon to be confronted by 2 dozen angry demonstrators. Printer Ernst Sundall has been charged under section 177 of the criminal code and was expecting to have a date set for his trial. But as Nancy Ng reports, that is not what happened. Speaker 1: What started as a peaceful demonstration staged by the Jewish Defense League turned quickly into an ugly brawl when Ernest Zundor arrived at the scene for the setting of his trial date. Undercover policemen pushed protesters aside while Zundo, wearing a yellow hard hat and bulletproof vest, was quickly escorted into the courthouse. Charges Speaker 2: under a Speaker 1: little known criminal code, section 177, were laid against Zundo by Oshawa survivor and founder of the Canadian Holocaust Remembrance Association, Sabina Citron. Speaker 3: I'm innocent as always. No. Actually, this is I consider this just one more step in this struggle to have the Germans rehabilitated. I'm a German. I don't think that the Germans killed 6,000,000 Jews. I think the Germans did some nasty things, you know, and, that can be said for everybody. Speaker 4: Zendel was greeted at the courthouse by members of the Jewish Defense League who booed and hissed at him, shouted obscenities, and spat at him in the halls of Old City Hall. Zundel appeared in court today wearing a hard hat and a bulletproof vest. Speaker 3: We have had lots of bomb threats and death threats and assassination threats. And, I don't know if you were in the hall up there. You know? These kids mean business. Speaker 5: Ernst Zondel is in a state of siege. Jewish Defense League is out to Speaker 2: get him with a Speaker 6: harassment campaign that he calls terrorism. Speaker 5: What did they say? Speaker 3: They're gonna kill me. I have my choice to where I want to go. I can be hacked to death. I can be ice picked to death. I can have my testicles cut off, anything. Speaker 6: Mister Zendel produced some taped threads to prove his point. Speaker 5: It came from the JBL. Speaker 3: I'm only a threat to those people who can't stand democratic debate or the truth. We are not harassing, this person. We are simply carrying on surveillance. Speaker 7: It's Monday. And from around the world, across Canada, and here at home, this is Ontario's number one news guest, World Beat News. With Tom Gibney and the CFTO news team. Good evening. There was violence outside all the hall today. A fight broke out when about 40 members of the Jewish Defense League tried to get at a man appearing in court for spreading false information about the Nazi Holocaust. Peter Durant reports. Speaker 8: A large crowd of demonstrators from the Jewish Defense League were waiting for 44 year old Ernt Zundel when he showed up at court today. Here's what happened as he and his associates approached old city hall. This film was shot by a freelance cameraman who just happened to be on the scene. Speaker 9: You stop. Speaker 8: Sondel is charged with mischief for spreading false information about the Nazi holocaust saying it never happened. He has made 2 court appearances, and both times, there has been violence. He'll be back again for a 3rd appearance in the middle of next month. Speaker 10: As for the commotion here today, one court security officer was heard to say all this just to set a court date. It's Monday. Was surrounded by about 30 supporters all wearing yellow hard hats. Speaker 11: The police are waiting to break up the pushing and shoving so Zundal can make it safely into court. Zundal is charged with 2 counts of publishing material likely to cause mischief to the public interest in a social and racial tolerance contrary to the criminal code. Today, Zundal, who works out of a Peloton Street address, appeared to set a trial date, which was scheduled for June 18th. Zundal chose trial by jury. When the appearance was over, Zundal and his supporters made their way out the back of old city hall to a bus rented from the TTC. Once again, the JDL was waiting. When a fight broke out, police arrested 1 man and charged him with causing a disturbance. For each hearing, supporters on either side have grown in numbers, and police have drawn the job of making sure the violence doesn't get out of hand. Speaker 12: As in previous court appearances, police had to protect him from demonstrators, including members of the Jewish Defense League. During the incident, cameraman were shoved. Speaker 7: They turned their frustrations on television cameraman. Speaker 13: A near riot erupted as Ernst Zondin and his supporters left the courthouse. Police kept members of the Jewish defense league from getting at Zondo, who says the Holocaust didn't happen. It was a 3rd court appearance for Zondo. The last time he appeared in court, Zondo escaped protesters by jumping into a speeding cab. This time, he and his supporters wearing hard hats left old city hall court in a chartered bus. Many of the protesters were armed with canes. 1 man was arrested by police. Speaker 14: Early this morning, there was an explosion at the home of Toronto publisher Ernst Zundel. Metro police believe a pipe bomb is behind the blast. Speaker 2: It happened just before 4:30 this morning. A device which police believed to be a pipe bomb exploded behind a garage at 206 Carlton Street. That address is the residence of publisher Ernst Zundel. Damage to the building and the car inside was minimal, totaling about $2,000. Homes and vehicles nearby were also damaged slightly by flying metal and wood. This morning's bombing is being investigated by 51 division and the bomb squad. Police say they have a number of possible suspects. Speaker 3: Basically, it sounded like a powerful blast going off or or a a truck or a bus or a fire engine backfiring. And then when you got here, there was nothing but smoke and flames and stuff like that. Speaker 10: The bomb caused about $2,000 damage to Zundal's garage, his car, as well as 3 other cars parked 15 feet away. My girl killed me. Speaker 3: I was, you know, I don't die there easily. Speaker 10: Sundal, a collector of Nazi memorabilia, has published material suggesting the holocaust was a hoax. He is a man with many enemies. Speaker 3: It's also many friends. Speaker 10: We here at City Pulse received a phone call late last night from someone claiming to be a part of a group called the People's Liberation Movement for the Jewish Defense League. The caller told us his group planted the bomb. Speaker 3: I have never heard of any such organization. We did not have anything to do with the bombing of Irin San Jose. However, I can certainly understand what would motivate some people to carry out such an action. I Maya Halevy, I would have expected an answer like that. I wish for the day when Prince Zundal's operation will be totally dismantled. I think that'll come long after his operation has been dismantled, I'm sure. Speaker 10: Zundal has obviously been expecting trouble of some sort. His home features numerous security devices, like outdoor video cameras with monitors inside the house, round the clock security guards, iron bars, search lights, and barbed wire. If it's a Speaker 3: warning, it, has made no impression on me whatsoever. Speaker 10: Send those jury trial on a charge of publishing false news causing mischief to the public interest of social and racial tolerance begins January 7th. If convicted, he could face up to 2 years in jail. Speaker 7: Pat McLean, good evening, everyone. It was hate, raw, and vile. It filled the air in broken violent fits outside of Toronto courtroom. It was an issue almost too sensitive for intellectual reason, and it was mixed up with racism, religion, and civil rights. It centered around 1 man, Ernst Sundell, and his trial in charges of spreading false and malicious propaganda. Speaker 15: A confident Ernst Zundel wearing his cool blue hard hat arrived for court today surrounded by supporters, most of whom were wearing yellow helmets. About a dozen Jewish activists, some members of the Jewish Defense League were there to greet them. It was a formula for confrontation. Speaker 9: Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Speaker 16: Should a man and his attorney who's defending himself have to run a gauntlet of vigilante terrorists who are waiting out here, anti German bigots, and and with inadequate protection. Let the man defend himself and have his day in court, and he'll win. But they don't want the truth to come up. Speaker 15: 4 of the Jewish activists were taken away to be charged with causing a disturbance and mischief to public property. The 45 year old Zundal is accused of 2 counts of spreading false news in literature that questions the holocaust. Today, he said he'll plead innocent that every man is entitled to freedom of speech. As Zundel and his followers left in their Volkswagen van later in the day, tempers flared again. Speaker 9: I got 22 reasons to hate you. Everyone's a relative, and everyone died. Bergen Belsen, Auschwitz, Never again. Speaker 10: While there were fireworks Speaker 15: Evidence the defense claims show the media are biased against the accused. Jury selection is expected to begin tomorrow, and Zundel will enter a plea. Speaker 17: 44 year old Zundel charged with distributing anti Semitic literature was met at the Toronto courthouse by members of the Jewish Defense League. A scalpel broke out with insults and punches being thrown. Speaker 9: Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Speaker 17: Zondel's lawyer, Doug Christie, spent most of the first day in court presenting a pretrial motion. Speaker 14: As is usual with any court appearance by Zundel, members of the Jewish Defense League were waiting. Speaker 9: Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. Speaker 14: As police tried to escort the accused through the crowd, fists flew. The fighting lasted only a couple of minutes. There were no serious injuries, but 4 people were arrested. Those demonstrators were searched then escorted to a nearby paddy wagon. Before jury selection began, Zumdrill's lawyer, Doug Christie, commented on the ruckus saying such goings on create an oppressive atmosphere for a trial, especially in light of the fact he and his client supporters were punched in the face. Speaker 18: Well, I've never been attacked before at the door of a courthouse. Very concerned. If people can do that on the way to court, what what stops them from doing worse? Speaker 4: Police were on hand at the University Avenue courthouse just before 10. Moments later, 44 year old Ernst Zundle and some of his followers arrived. Zundle faces a charge of spreading false news about the Holocaust during World War 2. He has claimed that the Holocaust was, in his words, a Zionist money making hope. Waiting at the doors for the Zundel group were Jewish protesters. There was an exchange of shouting, eggs were pelted, and then the pushing and shoving began. Defense lawyer Doug Christie says he's alarmed and concerned by the fracas which erupted outside the courthouse. Speaker 18: We were punched, kicked. Things were thrown at us. Speaker 4: Jury selection could begin tomorrow morning, and the trial is expected to last at least 3 weeks. Speaker 3: Freedom of speech will win. Historic battle, I believe. Speaker 19: For the 2nd day, legal arguments stalled selection of a jury to try Ernst Zundel. He is to answer charges arising from anti Semitic accounts of World War 2 he allegedly published. John Darby reports. Speaker 20: Ernst Zundel and his supporters arrived quietly at the county court this morning. This followed yesterday's disturbances in which 4 people were arrested after trying to block mister Zundel's entry. In the court, mister Zundel took off his jacket revealing a bulletproof vest. Speaker 19: Jury selection began today after judge Hugh Locke turned down 2 defense requests. Speaker 20: Drive to hear the judge's rulings on 2 pretrial motions. Mister Zundel had wanted the judge to drop the charges on the basis of a Canadian charters guarantees of free speech and opinion. However, judge Huwlock throughout that request saying such freedoms are not absolute, But there isn't an unbridled right Speaker 14: to say what you think. Mister Zundal's other request involved the questions his lawyer wanted to put to prospective jurors. As the charges involve publications containing allegations against Jews and Freemasons, defense lawyer Douglas Christie wanted to keep both groups off the jury. He felt they wouldn't be able to provide impartial judgment in such a case. Before jury selection began, judge Hugh Locke denied a request by defense lawyer Doug Christie to put 9 questions about the holocaust to prospective jurors. The judge also ruled banning Jews and freemasons from the jury would prevent a large portion of society from taking part in the trial. Judge Locke said about Zundel, he can't tailor his own jury to suit himself. Defense lawyer Christie said he hoped to ensure an impartial jury. He wanted to ask possible jurors if they are Jewish, if they believe gas chambers were used to kill Jews during World War 2. Crispi wondered if his client will get a fair trial. Speaker 18: I think it it is very difficult to get an impartial jury on a controversial question like the one that's an issue here. We'll have to deal with the matter as it arrives. Speaker 14: Zundel stands accused of spreading false information about the Holocaust. Zundel says he isn't disappointed that Jews will be allowed on the jury. Speaker 3: We are engaged in trench warfare. It's, all the way scratch and claw. I was prepared for this, so it doesn't upset me Speaker 9: in the slightest. Speaker 3: Do you Speaker 14: think you'll have a biased jury now? Speaker 3: It'll be more difficult for us? Yes. Speaker 18: I hope you and others are prepared to, to hear different points of view on that question. Did 6,000,000,000 really die? I think it's a question you should be free to ask. I think it's a question you should be open to hearing new evidence on. Speaker 4: The charges relate to 2 publications bearing Zundel's name, one titled, did 6,000,000 Jews really die, questioning the facts related to the Jewish holocaust during World War 2. For the second day, Zundel and his helmeted bodyguards arrived to relative calm outside county court. Speaker 3: Gonna bring truth to the people from now on in every day, Speaker 9: mister Rock. In every day. Speaker 3: Are you Crown attorney Peter Griffith set out Speaker 9: before the jury of Speaker 4: 10 men and 2 women to pick through parts of the articles and several publications Zundel quoted in the holocaust work. Sergeant Ron Williams read portions of the article and then other passages from the reference books putting context in question. Zundel's attorney Doug Christie from Victoria, BC in cross examination got Williams to admit he had only read what the crown told him to and that he had no idea on the overall context of any of these reference books, some of them available at the library. Speaker 14: Crown attorney Peter Griffiths says witnesses he will call will refute statements made by Zundel that the holocaust was a hoax and that there's an international Zionist conspiracy against the West. Zundel's lawyer, Doug Christie, has already admitted his client published pamphlets that make these claims. Pamphlets such as this one, which asks the question, did 6,000,000 Jews really die in the Holocaust? Another Zendal publication contends there's an international conspiracy being staged managed by Jews and an international masonic organization. Freemason and Metro Police Sergeant Ron Williams took the stand. He spent 7 months researching the crown's case against Zundel. Williams told the court many quotes in Zundel's holocaust booklets were accurate when compared with the source material. On being a mason, Williams testified, because of the secret nature of masonry, he would not know about an international conspiracy because it would be kept secret from some members. Speaker 21: In a point by point cross examination, Christie attempted to pick apart the testimony of 1 of the crown's key witnesses as he questioned what the man saw during a 9 month stay at the Auschwitz concentration camp. On the stand for the 2nd day, 56 year old Arnold Friedman told the court how he watched columns of prisoners march toward the Auschwitz Crematorium. Later, he watched smoke and flames pour from the building's smokestack. But under cross examination, Friedman was forced to admit he had never witnessed mass executions. He only guessed at what happened. He agreed that the columns of prisoners could have been marching out of the camp through a gate next to the crematorium. Christie is out to prove that has reason to question the widely accepted beliefs about the Holocaust. He suggested to Friedman that many of the bodies burned at Auschwitz were those of Jews who died of disease and starvation. Speaker 4: Zumbel's lawyer, British Columbia attorney Douglas Christie, vigorously cross examined Friedman about exactly what he saw and what he knew about crematoriums. He suggested to Friedman, cremation creates no such smoker flames as he described. I think you have a sense now how complicated this case is going to be. Speaker 20: Mister Zundel's pamphlet suggests there was no deliberate German policy of exterminating Jews. But yes, people died, but considerably less than 6,000,000. The defense counsel showed mister Friedman a map of the camp. Yesterday mister Friedman had spoken of smoke and flames coming from the camp's crematorium. But today said though people had certainly been taken in that direction, he wasn't absolutely sure what had happened to them. Speaker 7: Masons dominated testimony today at the trial of Ernst Zundel. Speaker 22: Today's testimony centered around claims made in this article entitled the West War and Islam published by Ernst Zundel. It claims the Society of Freemasons is a secret organization that uses corruption and espionage to obtain world domination for Zionism. As a witness, the crown called Roy Bassett, a metro police staff sergeant and a mason for 22 years. Under questioning from defense lawyer Doug Christie, Bassett repeatedly denied that the Freemasons was a secret society. In one Speaker 20: of the articles mister Zundal is charged with publishing, The West War in Islam, he alleges the Freemasons are a secretive group involved in directing the advance of world crime, corruption, poverty, war, revolution, collapse, and chaos. The witness, Staff Sergeant Roy Bassett, protested that he knew nothing of this. The Freemasons are supposed to live lawful lives. Cross examined by the defense, Staff Sergeant Bassett, seen here outside the court, said he was unaware the Catholic church had forbidden members to join the Masons. As well the witness said that even though he was under oath, he was not prepared to divulge the pledge masons take when they join. Speaker 6: The lawyer representing Ernst Zundel today began challenging some of the testimony given this week by an expert on the Holocaust. The cross examination questioned several of the man's statements, including his belief that Adolf Hitler personally ordered the extermination of Jews. Speaker 22: The crown's expert witness, doctor Raul Hilberg, was back on the stand today where he was called to defend many of the conclusions he's made on the holocaust during 40 years of research. Defense lawyer Doug Christie asked doctor Hilberg how he came to the belief that Adolf Hitler personally issued the annihilation order. The doctor replied, Hitler's order was verbal, and thus no one knows the correct wording. It's one of the gaps in history, Hilleberg said. Speaker 20: At this point, the defense started cross examination. At times, this became an intense debate between the witness, a distinguished academic, and the defense, an astute and highly capable lawyer who spent considerable time preparing mister Zundal's case. The questions ranged from the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, the number who were or were not killed, to German policy concerning the Jews as the 1941 invasion of Russia got underway. One of the main questions has been, did the Germans deliberately intend to kill all Jews, And did Hitler give the order for such a plan? Speaker 14: In court, defense lawyer Doug Christie questioned the fact that the professor quoted a former SS officer 10 times in a book the professor wrote about the holocaust. Christie said the officer made what the lawyer called incredible claims, like claiming that Hitler witnessed some gassings and that 25,000,000 Jews were killed by the Germans. Professor Hilberg admitted he left out the officer's incredible points in his book. Speaker 20: The boxes mister Zundel's supporters carry into the courthouse every day, point out the increasing complexity of this trial. In court, defense lawyer Douglas Christie makes his case with a welter of documents, books, maps, photographs. Today he continued an intense cross examination of Doctor. Raul Hilberg, an American expert on wartime documents. He suggested that doctor Hilberg who's written a major book on the destruction of European Jews may have used sources too selectively ignoring material that didn't support the contention that millions of Jews were killed. Doctor Hilberg retorted that mister Christie was confusing the issue. The pamphlet mister Zundel published alleges some German prisoners were tortured by allied soldiers, and as a result made statements supporting the idea that 6,000,000 died. Doctor Hilberg said he was unaware of this, but admitted that mishandling of German prisoners may have occurred in a few cases. Mister Christie then asked for one single scientific report indicating that there were gas chambers. Doctor Hilberg said he didn't know of 1. Speaker 6: A recognized expert on the holocaust today admitted there is no single report that shows the existence of gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps. Doctor Raoul Hilberg was testifying for the 3rd day at the trial of Ernst Zendel. Speaker 14: Christie, was there a report that anyone was gassed? Hilberg, there's no single report about gas chambers. I can't swear there's correspondence to prove it. Speaker 4: American holocaust expert, doctor Raul Hilberg, entered his 4th day on the stand, most of that time under sharp cross examination from Zundel's lawyer, Douglas Christie. Christie pressed Hilberg on brutality stories in the camps, what eyewitnesses he has interviewed, and asked how the court could weigh their credibility 40 years later. This case continues playing to packed courtroom here at the district court building on University Avenue. People are lined up sometimes 10 and 15 deep waiting to get in during the day. The lawyers were saying privately outside court today, this case could go on for yet another 5 weeks. Speaker 19: For the 4th day in a row, Holocaust historian doctor Raul Hilberg testified at the trial of publisher Ernst Zundel. Today, he jousted with defense lawyer Douglas Christie over reliability of sources in his research. Speaker 20: There were more allegations that allied soldiers tortured Germans whose statements were then used in war crimes trials. Mister Zundel's lawyer claimed that expert witness, doctor Raul Hilberg, had published a book on the Holocaust using material from a former Auschwitz commandant who had been beaten and whipped. Doctor Hilberg defended this use saying that this particular man was an important witness. Speaker 23: Rudolf Verba, an escapee from Auschwitz, has testified with uncanny precision about what went on in the death camp. Today, the lawyer for Ernst andl tested that memory. Doug Christie challenged a memoir that Verba wrote in 1964, which said, among other things, that Auschwitz had a killing capacity of 12,000 a day. This is twice what Verba had reported to authorities after his escape in 1944. Verba admitted that incidents in the book were dramatized. He called it an artistic picture of an event. Doug Christie read from Verba's 1964 death camp memoirs called I cannot forgive. Among the anecdotes, a human gassing demonstration for SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pressed about the book's accuracy, Verbus said it was a work of literature rather than a history book. The jury in the Zundel trial has heard a lot of different death estimates for Auschwitz. Verba himself calculates a grand total of 2a half 1000000. A previous document expert testified 1,000,000. And the Polish government says 4,000,000. No one knows for sure. Werba was telling the court how he kept a mental record of how many Jews went into the Auschwitz death ovens every day. Christie called it a memory technique to keep your lies straight. Speaker 22: A survivor of Auschwitz underwent Speaker 15: a tough day of cross examination today in Toronto. Verba found himself under attack for what he claims he saw. Speaker 24: Zumbel's lawyer, Douglas Christie, spent the day challenging Verba's memory and his motives, especially what Vrba claims he actually saw. The 2 of them engaged in verbal combat throughout the cross examination. Christie wanted to know why Verba's estimate of the number of Jews killed at the camp doubled from his initial statements given after the war and from the claim he made in his book 20 years later. Vrba admitted that his book entitled, I Cannot Forgive, was a compilation of many eyewitness reports. Speaker 20: Dennis who now lives in Toronto was in Auschwitz for more than 2 years. Cross examined by Douglas Christie, lawyer for Mr. Zundel, Mister Oerstein was sometimes hesitant about details of the buildings. He said he saw the gassings in. He said, it took me too many years to get it out of my mind. Mister Christie then asked how he knew they'd been gassed. Mister Oerstein couldn't give a definite answer, but said, I saw it. Then getting angry, he said, I'm very mad that I have to go all through this whole thing again. Speaker 7: At the Ernst Zundel trial in Toronto, the court heard about another aspect of Zundel's conspiracy theories. This one links the Jews, the communists, and the banks. Speaker 23: Apart from his controversial views on the holocaust, Ernst Zundel also believes in a world conspiracy of bankers. John Burnett, a senior vice president of the Royal Bank, testified today. Burnett was asked why his bank refused to make loans to South Africa, but did do business with communist countries whose governments were at least as oppressive. Burnett said his bank's policy on South Africa was a moral posture, and that the loans to communist countries were made largely to encourage trade with Canada. Speaker 20: This morning, testimony returned to the second charge mister Zundel faces. That's publishing the article, The West War in Islam. In it, he alleges conspiracies involving among others international bankers. The article suggests the bankers are the focal crown witness was a vice president of Canada's Royal Bank, one of the world's largest. John Burnett described some of the bank's operations. Mister Zundel's lawyer then led mister Burnett through a complex series of questions involving links between banks, the International Monetary Fund, and possible pressure on debtor nations such as Argentina and Poland. Speaker 5: Room 3 here at the University Avenue Courthouse has been filled to capacity every day since this trial began January 7th. People begin lining up at 8 o'clock each morning, and dozens are being turned away. When this trial began, it was expected to last about 3 weeks. It's now in its 4th week, and the defense has yet to call a witness. Speaker 21: In a statement to the jury of 12, defense lawyer Alan Christie of British Columbia said he'll prove that evidence of gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps is dubious. That the purpose of Zundel's pamphlet did 6,000,000 really die was not to show that there was no injustice to Jews, but to question whether 6,000,000 of them were killed in gas chambers. Christie says, Zundel believes there is cause to doubt the accuracy of the official version of the war that he researched his doubts and felt compelled to publish his findings. That is where Christie says the trial becomes a case of freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and freedom of the press. He says there is probably more at stake in this trial than has ever been at stake at any trial in Canada's history, And that what is really on trial here is how much freedom of opinion Canadians will tolerate. He says that not everyone will go through life taking a controversial stand on something that he should have the right to. Christie used his first defense witness to try to substantiate Zundel's doubts. Professor Robert Faurisson of France's Leon University told the court his research has convinced him the gas chambers and the holocaust are historical lies. Those views have put him on trial three times in France and led to one conviction. Recall a visit to Auschwitz when he ran his finger across the smokestack of a crematorium and found no soot. His investigation revealed that the crematorium was a reconstruction, not the original. Speaker 20: Doctor Forissaint from France has challenged the existence of what he calls homicidal gas chambers. That is gas chambers for killing Jews. He told the court that as a result, he was beaten up by those opposed to his views. Speaker 23: He told the court his questioning of the holocaust began in 1960 as intellectual curiosity. Speaker 25: Doctor Robert Faurisson testified that for 25 years, he studied what went on in Nazi concentration camps during the 2nd World War and found no evidence of the existence of gas chambers. Speaker 26: It was another day of startling testimony at the trial of Toronto publisher Ernst Zundel. The court heard from a professor of literature who spoke out in defense of Zundel. The scholar said the number of Jews who died in World War 2 is nowhere near what we've all been led to believe. Speaker 27: Doctor Robert Porisson disputes the widely held belief that 6,000,000 Jews were killed during World War 2. Said Porisson in court, it's Porrason testified he believed the casualty figures ranged between 200,000,350,000. He quoted his source for that estimate as the International Tracing Service, a group that tries to track down Jews who were displaced during the war. Earlier in the day, Forreston testified he believed the final solution was a territorial solution, not an extermination. Okay. Making an analogy, the professor said the final solution to unemployment doesn't mean you have to kill the unemployed. Speaker 23: French professor Robert Faurisson testified today that Jewish civilians who died in Nazi Europe were victims of war and not of planned extermination. Under cross examination, Faurisson, who denies that gas chambers existed, said the Jews were indeed persecuted. Prosecutor Peter Griffith asked if 100 of 1000 of Jews were not in fact starved to death and worked to death in concentration camps. Faurisson said he knew of no such policy. The small intense academic, a key witness in Ernst Schindel's defense, said he did not understand the meaning of the phrase war crime. War itself was a crime, he said. Griffins asked about the testimony of camp survivors who watched fellow inmates being worked to death. Forysol said the fact that there were survivors showed there was no direct policy to work Jews to death. Speaker 24: Morrison calmly told the jury that there is no document with Hitler's signature calling for the mass murder of Jews. He said rumors and anti German propaganda led to what he calls the great historical lie that 6,000,000 Jews died. Griffiths, who committed this fraud, Forrester, the state of Israel and international Zionists. Griffiths, for what purpose? Forrester said for the financial remuneration, the German government was forced to pay. Speaker 23: Another defense witness was doctor Russell Barton, a psychiatrist who worked as a Red Cross volunteer in the Bergen Belsen camp after the war. When he arrived with the liberating forces, 500 inmates a day were dying of starvation and disease. He concluded that those deaths were not part of a deliberate German policy of extermination. Doctor Barton testified that he was widely criticized for going against the prevailing view that the Germans purposely caused the deaths. He told the court that some of the inmates even died when British soldiers unknowingly gave them food they couldn't digest. Speaker 20: Doctor Russell Barton, an English psychiatrist was in Belsen concentration camp shortly after it was liberated. Question by mister Zindel's lawyer, he said he didn't believe the deaths he saw resulted from planned extermination. In the afternoon, a former German army officer arrived to testify for the defense. Theiss Christofferson was posted to Auschwitz in 1944. He said he only heard of mass Jewish deaths there after the war. He said he never saw evidence of mass gassings. Speaker 23: As Thijs Kristaversen tells it, Auschwitz was a clean and happy work camp. He was there in 1944 studying the production of synthetic rubber, and he says he talked to inmates almost every day. Testifying through a German interpreter, Kristofferson said the air at Auschwitz was very clean. There was no smell of burning flesh, no evidence of gas chambers. Speaker 20: Later, another defense witness, doctor William Lindsey, an American industrial chemist, took the stand. He described the Auschwitz and at other camps. Doctor Lindsay said what a dangerous gas cyclone B was and how carefully it had to be handled. Defense counsel Douglas Christie then mentioned an earlier witness who had claimed to have handled corpses shortly after the victims had been gassed. Doctor. Lindsay said this was highly unlikely. Asked by Mr. Christie about mass gassings, Doctor. Lindsay said it was impossible for it to have happened the way it's described. No one was willfully killed with Ziklon B in this manner. Doctor Lindsey also suggested that earlier testimony concerning flames, day and night shooting out of crematoria chimneys was wrong. He said this would cause a brick and mortar chimney to fall apart. Another defense witness, doctor William Lindsey, an American industrial properties of Ziclon B, Hydrogen cyanide, the gas said to have been used to kill Jews at Auschwitz and at other camps. Of mass gassings, Doctor. Lindsey said, it was impossible for it to have happened the way it's described. He also suggested reports of flames shooting out of crematorium chimneys day and night were wrong. He said flames would cause a brick and mortar chimney to fall Speaker 23: apart. Prince Zindel's day started badly. Speaker 3: Somebody stole my hard hat out of the courthouse. Speaker 28: Just wanted to know that. Speaker 3: I consider that means so. Speaker 23: The hat matches the blue bulletproof vest that Zindel wears in court. And even though he smiled about the theft, courthouse staff took it seriously. Meanwhile, a defense witness, Ditleid Felderrer of Sweden, compared himself to Voltaire, upholding the right of free speech. He said that in his 27 visits to Auschwitz in recent years, he found an Olympic sized swimming pool, a banquet room, a sauna, even a dance hall where prisoners orchestras played for inmates. He described a crematorium as a Hollywood stage place, a fake. Ernst Zindel has used some of Felderer's research in his own publications. In cross examination, Felderer was made to read from some of his leaflets Felderer was Felderer was smiling, and Sindal had a new hard hat. He and his supporters wear them both for protection and publicity. Speaker 19: Picture of Ernst Zundel as a man who fights for the rights of German immigrants was painted in court today. Several character witnesses were called in defense of the publisher. Speaker 20: A string of defense witnesses today testified concerning Ernst Zundel's character. Hans Schroeder, a Canadian of German descent told of his children who had problems because of their background. Questioned by defense counsel Douglas Christie, he said that mister Zundel was trying to change the public perception of Germans, that Mr. Zundel was a very honest man. Armand Arzvold said he too had been harassed because of his German background. He had asked mister Zundel for advice. He said mister Zundel was a completely sincere, honest individual. Jurgen Newman who came to Canada from Germany when he was a year old, was bothered by other children when he was young. He said he was impressed by mister Zundel's drive and sincerity. Rudolf, formerly with the German security service, the SD testified. He had been based in Poland. He said he had never heard of a Jewish extermination program until after the war. He said mister Zundel was the best German he had ever met. Speaker 19: Jim Kekstra, a former high school teacher fired for bringing anti Semitic views to the attention of his students came to the defense of Ernst Zundel today. Speaker 20: Surprise witness James Kiekstra this afternoon arrived at the University Avenue Court House. Surrounded by mister Zundel's supporters and a mob of cameraman, he made his way inside. Question first by defense counsel Douglas Christie. He told how he lost his Eckville, Alberta teaching job after he taught about the Holocaust. He said his students got the accepted view and the other side. His students understood his position, but they got all the facts. As a result, he said the media attacked him viciously and smeared his name. He said every editorial in the country had smeared and slandered him. But said mister Kieggstra, he didn't have any regrets. Pressed by Crown Council Peter Griffiths on what else he had taught, Mister Kegster spoke of the Jewish role in the French revolution and World War 1. He said he now face charges as a result of what had happened. Speaker 23: Jim Kiekstra's appearance at the Zundel trial was a well kept secret until shortly before he took the stand. The one time teacher whose own trial on hate propaganda charges begins in April, came to testify about the storm he set off in an Alberta classroom. Kiekstra said he told his students that atheistic Jews played a key role in revolutions and other upheavals. He also taught what he called another side to the holocaust, That 6,000,000 Jews were not annihilated. Kiekstra said he was misquoted and smeared by the media until he lost his job. Today, after 21 years as a teacher, he runs a car repair service. Another witness was Frank Wallace of Chicago. Wallace told how in 1977, Nazi Hunter Simon Wiesenthal accused him of dozens of wartime killings. 11 witnesses testified at his trial that he had been an SS officer in Poland. Over the next 4 years, Wallace said he was attacked on the street and abandoned by friends. He suffered 2 heart attacks and borrowed a $120,000 for his defense. Ernst Zundel gave him several $1,000. In tears, Wallace testified that he was cleared in 1980 when he proved he had worked on a farm during the war. All charges were finally dropped. The defense wanted to illustrate how accusations related to the holocaust can provoke what it calls mass hysteria among the press and public. Speaker 20: In the afternoon, a professor from Alberta's Red Deer College took the stand. Doctor Gary Botting said he ran into difficulties when he wanted his students to read a book, which suggests the extent of the Holocaust has been exaggerated. The book, The Hoax of the 20th Century, was impounded by the RCMP. Doctor Botting told the jury he tried to get it released, but without success. He also said he had faced strong social pressures to curb his giving evidence in the trial of Ernst Zundel. Speaker 25: He testified that he had to cancel a course because provincial education authorities wouldn't allow him to teach both sides of the holocaust debate. Speaker 23: The Zindo trial took a literary turn today as Gary Botting, an Alberta professor, told how his literature course was disrupted by the banning of a book. The book disputes the holocaust. Botting, who teaches at Red Deer College, testified that he likes to give his students both sides of view on a subject. One of those views was an American book called The Hoax of the 20th Century. Its views on the holocaust is similar to that of Ernst Zindel. When the college seized all copies of the book in line with a government directive last September, Botting scrapped the course because he didn't wanna put forward only one side of the holocaust. Speaker 20: The 7th week of the Zundel trial began with another defense witness, a Vancouver man who's been a journalist for 35 years. Doug Collins, who's worked for the CBC and the Vancouver Sun, was a German prisoner during World War 2. As the court listened, mister Collins said, he was concerned that in a democracy, one should have access to all views. Having read, did 6,000,000 really die? The pamphlet that figures in one of the charges against mister Zundel. Mister Collins said he didn't necessarily agree with it, but it was a point of view. At first he said he thought the pamphlet was hate literature, then he read it. Mister Collins said there wasn't an abusive word in the pamphlet. Speaker 29: Douglas Collins says Zundel's booklet, Did 6,000,000 Really Die? Is persuasive and says nothing abusive about Jews. Collins claims if Zumba were convicted, every journalist writing about the Holocaust would have to consult the B'nai Brith or the Jewish Defense League. Speaker 23: Veteran commentator Doug Collins told the court it was Ernst Zindel's democratic right to publish his side of the story, whether it is heresy or not. Collins, a writer and broadcaster for 35 years, said it has become dangerous to question the accepted view of the holocaust. Skeptics, he said, are accused of anti semitism and spreading hate, and that leads to self censorship. There is always another side of the story, he said. There are many versions of what happened in Nazi Germany. Speaker 29: Ernst Zundel took the stand in his own defense today as the trial entered its final stages. We have more on what happened from crime specialist Mark Daley. Speaker 4: Zundel's 24 year old son Pierre talked about being Ernst Zundel's son. Some of the ridicule he's had to take. He called his father a great guy who abhors violence and is very tolerant. Zundel himself prepared to testify late this morning. He set out with his counsel, Doug Christie, to show the jury of 10 men and 2 women why he feels the way he does about the holocaust. Zundel said he believed the exterminationist side of the story until 1960. Christie led Zundel through a tedious series of the same questions regarding more than 25 separate books. Much of it Zundel's reference material in writing did 6,000,000 really die. But he said the Germans were very much victims in World War 2 after bombing the genocide of the allied powers, he called it. Zundel also talked about the Jewish book of lists, a who's who of Jews in high places, especially in the news media. Back on the Holocaust, Zundel says 4000000, 3000000, or 1000000. It all rests on the reputation of the Germans who can't defend themselves. Speaker 20: To who was born in Germany, said that he had become concerned at how Germans were portrayed by the media. Waving magazines in the air, he read out the titles, Nazi Torture Cult, Hitler on Pain and Sex. He told the jury that Germans were also portrayed in a false and negative manner in children's comics and paperbacks and on TV. This he said despite the fact that most Germans were decent and law abiding. Ernst Zindl portrayed himself today as Speaker 23: a man fighting for the good name of Germans. And part of that fight is the denial of the holocaust. Zindal came to Canada in 1958. He said he found Germans slandered in print and on television. We were cowards, criminals, romantic dreamers, butchers, and colonel, the butt end of every joke, and I didn't like it. He told the court that the holocaust was at the center of the anti German bias. Until 1960, he believed that 6,000,000 Jews had been killed. Then after reading widely and interviewing authors around the world, he changed his mind. Referring to some of the holocaust atrocity stories, Zendel said, only someone mesmerized by propaganda could believe in such nonsense. Zundel testified that the high death toll at camps like Dachau was mostly due to typhus, and those epidemics came late in the war. There were no active gas chambers for humans, he said. The jury in the trial has seen this military film alleging that a shower at Dachau was used to gas Jews with Zyklon B gas. Zindel said that most authorities, including officials at Dachau today, now say that the gas chamber was never used. It took 20 years, he said, to admit that Dachau, Buchenwald, and Bergen Belsen did not have gas chambers, he said. In time, the world would have to admit that Auschwitz and other eastern camps also did not use gas for human extermination. Zindal also said that the post war Nuremberg trials were Germany's darkest hour, an example of human debasement. Through his lawyer Doug Christie, Zindl introduced the writings of American politicians and jurists of the 19 forties who criticized the trials as a blot on American justice. Zindel said the holocaust is like a rumor that grows wilder each time it's repeated through each generation. He said it served well as war propaganda, but 40 years later, it is time to put that propaganda aside. Speaker 5: Bundell told the jury that we must now realize that every government manipulates information and has censorship in times of war and that we owe it to ourselves to be informed of the truth or we will be mental slaves even after the war is over. Speaker 23: Zindal's philosophy on the white race, Jews, and the Holocaust came under sharp scrutiny today as his cross examination got underway. Asked about the previous testimony of concentration Speaker 20: camp survivors. What did he have Speaker 23: to say about that Zindel said the stories are the result either of vivid imaginations or group hallucination. Earlier, Zindal testified that he has no special feeling about Jews, any more than he does about the Irish, the French Canadians, or the Lebanese. He said there are all kinds of Jews in the world. Some he finds interesting, others he wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. Speaker 29: Ernst Zundel praised Adolf Hitler today. Under cross examination, Zundel said Hitler was loved and respected by Germans. Speaker 20: He said that Hitler had had a love relationship with the Germans. That those who remember him, love him. Later, mister Zundel said that Hitler brought law, order, work, and honor to Germany. As the court listened, mister Zundel spoke of the earlier crown witness Arnold Friedman. Mister Friedman, an Auschwitz survivor had told of flames shooting out of a crematorium chimney. Mister Zundel said, I think we are dealing with a man with a vivid imagination at the least. As for doctor Rudolf Virba, also a crown witness, an Auschwitz survivor, mister Zundel said he thought his stories are an insult to this court. Doctor Virba had told the court of calculating the number of Jews taken to their deaths. Earlier in the day while still being examined by his own lawyer, mister Zundel had spoken of demonstrations outside his house by people who called themselves Jews. He said they had called for his execution. Speaker 4: Zundel told the jury he has a right to present his and the German's view of the 2nd World War. He told Griffiths that he and most people in Canada have only seen or heard the history book versions or the exterminationist view. Zendel was almost debating, even questioning crown counsel Peter Griffiths at times. The debate went on, and at certain points, Zendel referred to the basis for the crown's questions as part of the malicious propaganda lie. Griffiths read a Zundel authored letter to West Germans who were raided and investigated for possessing Zundel literature a few years ago. In that letter, Zundel referred to Israel as a terrorist state and the West German government as an occupation political puppet regime in democratic clothing. He says he has as much of a right to defend his heritage as Canadians have to defend theirs. Speaker 19: Ernst lawyer summed up his defense today in a sometimes intense final address to the jury. Speaker 20: This lengthy and complex trial is now nearing its end. Mister Zundel's lawyer, Douglas Christie, today made his last and at times dramatic address to the jury. He started by saying, never before in the history of Canada have 12 people had to grapple with such a serious issue. As mister Zundal listened from the dock, mister Christie said this was a case that never should have been brought before a court in a free society. Debate, he said, should be allowed. There should be the freedom to disagree. Speaker 4: Judge Yulok dismissed the main defense argument of freedom of speech and expression. The judge told the jury that section 177 of the criminal code does not prohibit freedom of speech or stifles vigorous dissent. He emphasized definitions of intent, racial tolerance, key to this case. Judge Locke says he hopes to have the jury begin their deliberations tomorrow afternoon, probably after the lunch break, and they would be sequestered in a downtown hotel until they reach a verdict. There's absolutely no way of telling how long they will be out dealing with this complex and lengthy trial. Speaker 15: As the Toronto Publishers trial drew to a close, the judge began his charge to the jury. He agreed with the crown that freedom of speech is not an issue in the case as the defense had contended. Bodine Williams reports. Speaker 24: Crown prosecutor Peter Griffiths wasted few words in describing to the jury his view of the publication, did 6,000,000 really die, and what he thinks of Zundal himself. Referring to the effect of the pamphlet on the victims' families, he said, it spits on the memory of their loved ones and demeans the dignity of their grief. It calls survivors of the holocaust liars, cheaters, and frauds. Speaker 20: Tonight the jury is staying in a downtown Toronto hotel. The wait for the verdict began when they left the court this afternoon at 4:31 on the 38th day of this trial. Just minutes before the 10 men and 2 women left, judge Hulock seen here in his office told them he felt there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that the holocaust did occur. He also agreed with the crown that freedom of speech is not an issue in this trial. Speaker 27: Ernst Zundel has been found guilty of publishing anti Jewish literature. He had been charged with 2 counts of knowingly publishing false information leading to social or racial intolerance. But after 8 hours of deliberation, the jury brought in only one guilty verdict. Speaker 20: At 3:0:9 this afternoon, the jury filed back into the courtroom. Since yesterday afternoon, they had deliberated for about 8 hours. The verdict, not guilty in the pamphlet, The West War on Islam. Guilty on did 6,000,000 really die? Talked with reporters. He said he was not surprised. He would be back to carry on his struggle against what he says is the monstrous lie that is the Holocaust. When the judge returned, the crown asked for a substantial period behind bars to deter mister Zundel and others. The judge deferred that sentence until the end of March. Speaker 30: I think that mister as a first offender, is probably not somebody who would get the maximum. But I think that it should be substantial to send a message to, members of this community who send out this kind of material that it won't be tolerated. Speaker 4: Zuttle didn't comment because of the crush outside, but he had plenty to say in the courtroom standing right in the prisoner's dock during a break before the judge came back to talk about sentencing. He said says he doesn't feel he lost because he got about $1,000,000 worth of worldwide publicity. The Sabina Citron of the Holocaust Remembrance Society was a key backer of the charges against Zundel. She doesn't think Zundel won with the publicity. Speaker 7: There's a This is Speaker 31: a free and democratic society. The only way you can deal with criminals in is in a court of law, And this is what was done, and I am very happy about that. He has not gained any more supporters than we he would have had ordinarily. Speaker 32: He showed us how many antisemites there are in this in this world and in this country. He tossed over quite a number of rocks, and we found out what kind of creatures crawl from them. Speaker 4: The Zondel was ordered into custody in the courtroom, cuffed, and taken away until a $1,000 bail was raised. It was raised in minutes. Speaker 3: Are you appealing, mister Zunno? Of course, I am. Speaker 8: You are gonna appeal. Speaker 3: All the way to the Supreme Court. Speaker 4: Part of his, bail conditions, he cannot write or publish anything to do with the holocaust. That is until March 25th. But there's likely to be a lengthy probation after his jail term, possibly as long as 3 years. That's what the crown's asking for where probably the same provisions would apply. Speaker 8: Zundel was hustled out of court this afternoon right by waiting reporters amidst very tight security. He didn't have much to say except that the trial was worth it just for the publicity alone. Speaker 3: Well, the the we we told the truth, and it needed to be told that we did it civilized in a civilized manner, and I think we all did a good job. Everybody important people. Speaker 8: Zundel, who will be sentenced next month, was freed on $1,000 bail. Speaker 10: One of Speaker 8: the conditions that he not write or publish anything about the holocaust. Zondel was originally charged with 2 counts of knowingly distributing false information that could cause social or racial intolerance. However, he was only convicted on one count. Speaker 7: He was, however, found not guilty on another charge. That charge related to a pamphlet that argues there is an international conspiracy of Zionists, bankers, communists, and freemasons to control the world. Speaker 33: In this grade 12 history class at Jarvis Collegiate, they're studying the Nazi era. And to students like Christina, the holocaust is simply not an issue. She says she knows it happened, but the trial has left others with doubts. It's left them questioning history. Speaker 34: So it did raise some questions in my mind, you know, but I feel that, he's generally got a point. Speaker 33: What kind of questions did it raise? Speaker 34: Well, you know, as to kind of question is, how many people were actually, mistreated, during the holocaust and things like that. Speaker 5: I think he is, making some people doubt. Speaker 3: Truth had to be told, and I Speaker 21: did it, and I enjoyed that. Speaker 28: Ernst Sundahl, once a little known Toronto publisher, now a national figure. Speaker 23: We have done for Erz Zandl what he could Speaker 20: not in his wildest dreams Speaker 23: have done for himself. We have given him a forum. We have given him a measure of respectability. We've made the damn man a household word. Speaker 0: Ernst Zundel was sentenced to 15 months in jail today. Judge called Zundel a menace to society. Speaker 23: Ernst Zendel staged a bit of melodrama for the cameras today, implying that he was about to be crucified for his beliefs. Speaker 35: Today, Toronto's Jewish community is not satisfied. They want Zundel out of the country and are calling on the federal government to initiate deportation proceedings immediately. Speaker 28: This is Ernst Zundel's house in downtown Toronto. He calls it his bunker. Indeed, the bars on the windows, the security camera on the roof, and the guard station inside do give the place the appearance of a fortress. Zundal supporters sleep here and work here, turning out an almost constant stream of printed material. This is Zundel's message. There were no gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps. There was no mass murder of European Jews. The Holocaust is a hoax dreamed up after the 2nd World War by Zionists, who wanted war reparation, money to establish the state of Israel. In his house, Zundal keeps an elaborate scale model of the Auschwitz concentration camp. Ovens are included, but Sunderl says they were used only to burn the bodies of typhus victims. Sunderl denies he is anti Semitic, but he is, to say the least, highly suspicious of many Jews. Speaker 3: Because some of them are diabolical liars, exploiters of their own people's suffering, real and imagined, They are manipulators, some of them. Speaker 28: And their power. Speaker 3: But because they have amassed an immense power, especially in the media, they have a terrible power to distort and a terrible power to create mischief. Speaker 28: He has a different opinion of Adolf Hitler. Speaker 3: I have never made any bones about my admiration for Adolf Hitler, the man, the political leader. I consider him, when the holocaust legend has finally been explained, to be one of the completely misunderstood political geniuses of this age.
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Retired FBI chief Ted Gunderson was an American hero that investigated satanism, child trafficking rings & so much more. Highly recommend people give Ted a listen, he has many seminars explaining his discoveries, the US government has been complicit in child trafficking way longer than most know.

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In this video, Ted Gunderson discusses the Illuminati and their plans for world domination. He explains that the Illuminati has infiltrated various aspects of society, including the Freemasons and the media. Gunderson outlines the 25 goals of the Illuminati, which include using violence and terrorism to control the masses, manipulating the press to spread propaganda, and establishing a one-world government. He emphasizes the importance of waking up to the corruption and control that exists in society, and encourages people to educate themselves and take action. The video provides a detailed analysis of the Illuminati's agenda and its impact on society. (150 words)
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Speaker 0: Good evening. Welcome to Liberty and Justice For All. Many times, I get asked if I'm a subscriber to the conspiracy theory. I absolutely am not a subscriber to this to the conspiracy theory. There is no theory. Tonight, we're gonna talk about the Illuminati and I have Ted Gunderson with me again. He's been kind enough to give us more of his information. For those of you don't know, Ted spent 28 years with the FBI, is now retired and Working his own investigations and, boy, what he's uncovered and everything that Ted presents comes straight from documents. So, Ted, welcome to the show. The Illuminati is the title of the show. I have gone through your book, and I hear this, organization tossed around. After reading your book, Speaker 1: Who the Speaker 0: hell are these people? Speaker 1: Well, the Illuminati, I wasn't aware that it existed until after I retired from the FBI. I retired from the FBI in 1979, And Attorney General Griffin Bell asked me to coordinate security for the Pan American Games and I I went to San Juan, Puerto Rico in the summer of 79, came back and opened my own international security consulting and investigative organization in, Westwood, Los Angeles, California. And, my first major investigation was the Jeffrey R McDonald case. And he's a former Green Beret doctor who was convicted of murdering his wife and 2 children, Fort Bragg, in 1970, February 17, 1970. And, he was sentenced had been sentenced the previous August to August 79 to 3 consecutive life sentences. And, some of his doctor friends asked me to investigate it, and I said, sure, I'll investigate it. So, I began my investigation, and within Long story short, I developed, something like 19 new witnesses, and within 10 months, as a matter of fact, on October 25, 1980, I obtained a signed confession from Elena Stokley, the girl in the white hat, floppy white hat in the story, has been a best selling book, Fatal Vision, and a best selling movie, Fatal Vision, and, anyway, her name was Helena Stokley, and Helena Stokley told me that doctor McDonald did not murder his wife and 2 children at Fort Bragg in February 1970, that they were murdered by her ctenney cult group and, I said, yes, Alina, tell me more. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 1: And, so Alina commenced to tell me about how she was initiated into the satanic cult that night. She was a witch and, part of the initiation is to murder, In that instance, the murder of the wife and the 2 children, 2a half and 5a half, darling children. And so, I went public with the information. Well, first of all, before I went public, I submitted a, 1200 page, between 11 and 1200 page report to the FBI and to the US Department of Justice Solicitor General's Office. And I wrote a personal letter to, judge William Webster, director of the FBI, and I said judge and we were friends, judge Webster and I, because I'd worked for him. I was in charge of southern most of Southern California had over 700 personnel under my command. So I knew him, you know, very well. Right. And I wrote to judge Webster and said, judge, I think this man's innocent and, here's my report. Doctor McDonald has run out of money, And, I think that the FBI needs to look at this and continue my investigation, and I set forth, 5 or 6 pages of leads that, really needed to be covered Mhmm. To resolve it, bring it to a logical conclusion. And then what happened to me was shocking. All of a sudden, I hear from my various sources around the country that, I'm a disgruntled ex employee that, I'm a homosexual, that, I'm suffering from mental problems, and what I'm saying to you is it's called disinformation program. Right. So, rather than take my report, my 11, 1200 page report, continuing the investigation, considering this man is innocent, they attack me. The government attacks me because they have to destroy my credibility, and in order to destroy my credibility, They have to come out with these wild allegations. Right. And it's called It's it's very active, it's very prevalent and very effective in the intelligence community and it's called a disinformation program. Anyway, long story short, Helena said that she was a member of a satanic cult. At that time, they were bringing drugs in plastic bags and body cavities of the dead GIs out of Vietnam, Air America CIA operation and the Army, and they were landing in various spaces around the country and, then they would take the drugs out and distribute them. Helena Stokley's, satanic cult group were distributing the drugs on the East Coast. They went in and murdered the family without the approval or the knowledge of higher ups in the drug operation. And when the higher ups learned this had happened, they were afraid if there was an investigation of the cult that it could expose the whole operation. So, what they did is they basically framed doctor McDonald. Doctor McDonald is an innocent man. He did not commit those murders. So in looking at the case, you see, when you come involved in an investigation, the first thing you do is you grab all the testimony and all the evidence and you look at it and you analyze it, and I saw where evidence was lost, stolen, destroyed, altered. For example, Colette, the wife, Jeff's wife, had skin under her fingernails. The skin disappeared. Mhmm. Now, from the skin, you could do a blood test at that time Sure. To tell the blood type of the person who had been scratched. By the way, doctor McDonald did not have any scratch marks on him. That skin disappeared. That evidence alone could have exonerated doctor McDonald. Right. But anyway, Helena then told about the movement in the house, what each person did, how she had broken into the house with, a a black male named Dwight Smith and, 2 white males, Shelby Dawn Harris and Ellen Maseral, confronted doctor McDonald. They had a fight and, murdered the family, left him alive. She said that they left doctor McDonald alive because they felt he would suffer more if his family died and he was alive. The man has suffered. He's been in jail now for 20 some years. Speaker 0: And he's still there. Speaker 1: And he's still there. And, right now, we're in the process the courts ordered DNA test, by the way. Mhmm. In 1997, 4 years ago. Well, the judge, James Fox from Wilmington, North Carolina, said, okay, we're only although there's 2,000 individual pieces of evidence, He said that we're only gonna allow 15 pieces of evidence to be examined and, furthermore, we're only gonna allow the prosecution of the US government to be present when they opened the evidence envelopes. The defense couldn't even be present. Well, the prosecution opened the evidence envelopes and of the 15, 5 of them are empty. Unbelievable, right? 97, 2001, they still haven't conducted the test. They're dragging their feet, the government is. Stalling. Now, if our government is interested in, truly interested in justice, they would get on with this case, but they don't dare resolve it in favor of somebody other than McDonald has a guilty party. Speaker 0: If they find if they discover that McDonald didn't do it, then they're obligated to find out who did it. Speaker 1: Did it. And here I'm sitting here with a confession from the girl. Speaker 0: And and all the documentation, the evidence, and everything, but yet it's ignored. That's right. You know, I wish this was a a new story that I'd heard, but I see this in so many cases at at all levels. Speaker 1: That's right. Speaker 0: All levels of government. These cover ups, the all these things that they're it's always doing. So he's still locked up. You have the evidence and nobody will do anything. Speaker 1: They refuse. They refuse. Helena told me that there were generals involved in the operation, the drug operation. There were 2 attorneys in Fayetteville, North Carolina. There were police officers and there were army personnel involved in Speaker 0: it Yeah. Speaker 1: That she personally has knowledge Speaker 0: Well, and these are this is a satanic cult. Speaker 1: This is satanic cult. Now, the reason I gave that story is because I want to explain, how I became involved in these issues. Speaker 0: In in 28 years in the FBI, you'd never come across anything like that. Speaker 1: I had never come across anything like that. I never heard the word Illuminati. I've if I heard it, I didn't pay any attention to it, which is true of the average person Speaker 0: Well, yeah. Speaker 1: Walking the street. Speaker 0: Right. But let me Speaker 1: tell you folks, tonight, you are going to learn about the Illuminati because I learned about it after, I became involved in the Jeffrey McDonald case. Yeah. The natural thing to do is to say, well, why? And what's happening here? Well, I went on national TV and national radio talk shows, and I exposed this whole operation out of Southeast Asia, the drugs, by the way, this is documented, the drug operation, in a magazine, a Time Magazine, January 1, 1973. Mhmm. So, I'm not talking off the top of my head. Yeah. But, people came out of the woodwork from all over the United States, West Coast, East Coast, Middle West, Southwest, and started telling me the same basic story about the satanic cult movement in this country. The satanic cult movement is dovetails and is tied into the Illuminati, that is tied into the US intelligence community, that is tied into the drug illegal drug activity in this country. Mhmm. That is tied into the MK Ultra mind control program, which is CIA program, that began, after World War 2, code word Operation Paperclip. And, in researching it, in other words, here I'm saying, why? Why? Why? Why? I don't understand. What's where's this where's this where is the conspiracy? And let's prove the conspiracy because I'm skeptical too. I'm a law enforcement officer for 28 years. Right. And we are naturally, we're bred to be, suspicious And and and to be curious. Speaker 0: But even, and you mentioned Air America. When I was in Vietnam, I had work orders a number of times that I would go down and work on Air America airplanes. And it never I never had a clue. I mean, Air America sounds like a pretty nifty outfit. And I never had a clue what these airplanes were all about. And then, in my debriefing, which I can't tell you about. They told me that I couldn't tell you about Air America even existing. I think I just did that, didn't I? Oh, well. Speaker 1: You're in trouble. Speaker 0: Anyway Speaker 1: Now listen to me. Let me tell you, Dennis. There's been so much publicity about Air America that you're Speaker 0: Okay. Yeah. But Air America, there it was. I've got no. I'm not gonna tell you that. I know people that have pictures of the airplanes. That Air America, there it is. And and at that time, I mean, I was gung ho military. I was taking care of the country. And the Illuminati, I thought was a brand of light bulbs. I mean, that's that's how far it went at that time. Now after doing study, and and the reason we're doing this people is For your information, we know this stuff and we believe it and we're just gonna tell you what we found out. Do with it what you want. But the Illuminati has been documented just like our America clear back, way back To the days of the origination of the constitution. Speaker 1: That's right. Now, you're aware, of course, I don't know if your audience is aware, But Air America, there was so much publicity on Air America, even a movie came out of Hollywood on it Speaker 0: Mhmm. Speaker 1: That, they, they dropped the name and now it was then it was known as Evergreen Airline and and so forth. Yeah. Now, one of the airlines is Janet Airline Right. Which holds the CIA employees out of Las Vegas every day To Up to area 51 and back in the afternoon, they land about 2:30. Speaker 0: Wait a minute. I read an article that said there is no area 50 So where does Janet Airlines land? Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, but there is an area of that field because I was just there a couple of weeks ago. Speaker 0: Yeah. That's right. I saw you there. Speaker 1: And I gave a lecture there. Speaker 0: No. I it is amazing. And I and I know I watched Janet Airlines take off. And I watched them when they were black. A black 7 37, no numbers. Can you believe that? Really? Now they're white with a red stripe. So they Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 0: They've breed them up a little Speaker 1: They've up they've run them up. Yeah. They've up up Graded. Graded. Yeah. Right. Speaker 0: Anyway, back to this Light bulb company. Speaker 1: Illuminati. The Illuminati. They Speaker 0: started way back. What's their plan? Speaker 1: Well, before I go into that, let me mention that I have put my own report together. You might wanna hold it up, Dennis, on the Illuminati. Speaker 0: No. This this is my copy of your report. Speaker 1: This is your copy. Speaker 0: Yeah. If you want one, you got to get it from him. Speaker 1: But this report takes the goals of the Illuminati and then comes right in behind the goals and documents what's happening today, how the goals are being implemented and activated. Speaker 0: Have you got the goals? Speaker 1: Yes. I've got the gold right here. Speaker 0: Alright. Speaker 1: And, this is a book. This is my bible when it comes to the Illuminati. It's called Fawns in the Game and it's by William Guy Carr. William Dycar was a Canadian author, commander in the, retired in the Canadian Navy, and he couldn't understand why we had so much, war and so many evil things taking place in the world. So he, like me, did his own research and found out really why. Mhmm. And in his book, it's a fabulous book and This is available through me, by the way, in my I was Speaker 0: gonna say, it looks like it's got some age on it. Speaker 1: Oh, it's a it's an old timer. Yeah. I've I've used this quite extensively, but There are new copies that are available. Mhmm. Anyway, I I why don't I just go through these goals? Speaker 0: How many goals are there? Speaker 1: There's 25 goals and I'll go through them just as fast as I can. I'm gonna read from the book portions of it, so that we don't lose the real significance of it. Okay? Number 1, first of all, the, a fellow named Adam Weissoft was commissioned by Meyer Rothschild in 17/73, to come up with a plan to take over the world. And, so on May 1st, 17/76, 3 years later, he had put this plan together and, the goals were announced. May 1st is a communist as you know. Mhmm. By the way, it's kind of interesting, area 5151, May 1st. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any significance there or not, but, you know, I'm not saying there is. I'm not saying there isn't, but okay. Alright. Tell me I'm a cook. Speaker 0: Well, 51 relates to a lot of things if we got Yeah. Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm I'm just saying this kind of a little interesting twist Speaker 0: there. Happy May Day. Beg your pardon? Happy May Day. Speaker 1: Happy May Day. That's right. Okay. Number 1, the speaker, in this meeting with the Rothschild and other leading industrialists, bankers, businessmen In Germany, he was a, in Germany. Weissach said that the, he unfolded the plot by saying that because the majority of men were inclined to evil rather than good, the best results in governing them could be obtained by using violence and terrorism and not by academic discussions. He goes on and says that the, the reason the way to rule is, well, logically to conclude that by the laws of the nature, the right lies in force. Speaker 0: Mhmm. Speaker 1: And we've seen that. We see that every day. Right. We see that in the Middle East right today. Speaker 0: The second Middle East. We see that in Middle Reno. Speaker 1: Well, we see that also in the riots and Yeah. Everywhere. And and and in the, pitting the blacks against the Mexicans and the blacks against the whites. Right. And, you know, it's it's part of the master plan. Nick, number 2, He next asserted that political freedom is an idea and not a fact. He stated that in order to usurp political power, all that was necessary was to preach liberalism so that the electorate, for the sake of an idea, would yield some of their power and prerogatives which the plotters could then gather together into their own hands. Liberalism is very active in this country today. Speaker 0: That's right. Speaker 1: Number 3. The speaker asserted that the power of gold had usurped the power of liberal rulers even then, and, of course, this started in 17/73, it was announced 17/76. He reminded his audience that there had been a time when faith had ruled, but stated that once that freedom had been, substituted for faith, the people did not know how to use it in moderation. He argued that because of this fact, it was logical to assume that they could use the idea of freedom to bring about class wars. He pointed out that it was immaterial to the success of his plan whether the established governments were destroyed by internal or external foes because the victor had of necessity to seek the aid of capital, which, quote, is entirely in our hands. Number 4. He argued that the use of any and all means to reach their final goal was justified on the grounds that the ruler who governed by the moral code was not a skilled politician because he left himself vulnerable vulnerable and in an unstable position on his throne. He said, those who wish to rule must have recourse to cunning and to make believe because great national qualities like frankness and honesty are vices in politics. Number 5, he asserted, our right lies in force. The word right is an abstract thought and proves nothing. I find a new right to attack by the right of the strong and to scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation to reconstruct all existing institutions, and to become the sovereign Lord of all those who left to us the rights of their powers by laying them down voluntarily in their liberalism. Number 6, he then admonished his listeners with the word these words, The power of our resources listen to this. This is very interesting. The power of our resources must remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it. He warned them that any deviation from the line of the strategical plan he was making known to them would risk bringing the knot to knot the labors of centuries. So, it's secret. Right. And they wanna keep it secret. They don't want the public or the, people to be aware of what their plan is because If enough people would become aware of it, they could stop it. Speaker 0: Well, I mean, if if just the first six items so far, If you publish those in the largest newspapers in the country for 2 or 3 weeks just explained all this, It'd be all over with. The people would be so outraged. Speaker 1: That's right. And we're coming up to that in just a few minutes why it's not being published. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: That's control of the press. That's not the 7th one, but we'll talk about the 7th one. He next asserted, Bisoft did, the use of mob psychology to obtain control of the masses. He reasoned that the might of the mob is blind, senseless and unreasoning and ever at the mercy of suggestion from any side. He stated only a despotic ruler can rule the mob effectively because without absolute despotism, there can be no existence for civilization which was carried out not by the masses, but by their guide, whosoever that person might be. He warned that the moment the mob seizes freedom in its hand, it quickly turns to anarchy. Number 8, he next advocated the use, oh, this is a good one, of alcohol, liquor, drugs, moral corruption, and all forms of vice to be used systematically by their agent tours to corrupt the morals of the youth of the nation. We recommended that special agent tours should be trained as tutors, lackeys, governesses, clerks and by our women in the places frequented by the masses. He added that in the number of these last I count, also, the so called society ladies who become voluntary followers of the others in corruption and luxury. We must not stop at bribery, deceit, and trek treat trickery when they should serve towards the attainment of our goal. Don't we see that today? Speaker 0: We see I haven't missed anything we don't see today so far. Speaker 1: I mean, that is heavy though. Stop and think of what's happened to the youth of America today. Speaker 0: Oh, right. There's no question about it. Speaker 1: The drugs, the dressing and the satanic symbols, the the emblems that they use Mhmm. Sex, look at television. Absolutely. The greatest media in the history of the world and it's being used to influence our youth by Alright. And also us, of course, through subliminal messages. Okay. Number 9, turning to politics. He claimed that they had the right to seize property by any means and without hesitation, If by doing so, they secured submission and sovereignty, he pronounced, quote, our state marching along the path of peaceful conquest, has the right to replace the horrors of war by less noticeable and more satisfactory sentences of death necessary to maintain the terror, which tends to produce blind submission. We see the IRS grabbing property Right. Every day. Look at the Gordon Call case. Speaker 0: Yeah. But we even see law enforcement agencies seizing property. Speaker 1: That's right. On a on a regular basis. Right. And look at what's happening right here in Nevada With the ranchers. Speaker 0: Oh, we got the federal government has basically seized 87% of the Speaker 1: Of of the state of Nevada. Speaker 0: Of the state of Nevada. Sure. Speaker 1: And they've taken the large ranchers and put them put them out of They're trying to put them out of business. Speaker 0: They are putting them out of business. Speaker 1: That's right. Number 10. Dealing to the use of slogans, he said, in ancient times, we were the first to put the words liberty, equality and fraternity into the mouths of the masses. Words repeated to this day by stupid poll parrots, Words which the would, would be wise men of the, masses could make nothing of in their abstractness and did not note the contradiction of their meaning and interrelation. He claimed the words brought under their direction and control legions who bore our banners with enthusiasm. He reasoned that there is no reason in nature, no place in nature for equality, liberty, or fraternity. He said, on the ruins of the natural and genealogical aristocracy of the masses, we have set up the aristocracy of money. The qualifications of this air stock, you see, is wealth, which is dependent upon us. Now, in our show recently, we talked about the Speaker 0: Federal Right. Speaker 1: The Federal Reserve is a private corporation. It's not part of the government. It tells us everything about what we can do about money, raise the interest, lower the interest. Speaker 0: Well, it totally controls money, inflation, and people. Speaker 1: And, don't you I find it amusing, I don't enjoy it, I find it amusing. The gas prices have been astronomically high lately and all Greenspan now has come out and said, the grass prices are gonna drop. I think they were dropped, they dropped them because the masses of the people were up in arms over Speaker 0: Well, I I hope that's what it was, and I hope there was a an actual reaction to the will of the people because we don't see that very Speaker 1: Well, I suspect that. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 1: I don't know. But gas prices are dropping. Speaker 0: They have dropped some, yes. Speaker 1: And it shows you that they do have the control to do Oh, Speaker 0: absolutely. I mean, first of all, Greenspan's head of the Federal Reserve System. What's he talking about gas prices for in the first place? I mean, this is if people would say, You know, what is what is this? Speaker 1: None of that. Of course, we have the IRS. IRS is a private corporation. Yeah. IRS is not pry part of the Treasury Department. Speaker 0: Well, it's basically the, collection arm for the Federal Reserve. Speaker 1: That's right. Speaker 0: They scoop up if inflation there's too much money out there. The IRS goes out, scoops it up, and puts it back in the hopper, and then they loan it back to Our senators and they give it 10 times? 10 times. Right. Speaker 1: On the dollar. Speaker 0: Right. And then they charge it to the good faith and Promise of the citizens of the United States. Speaker 1: Dense, do you think it's possible that you and I can maybe buy some stock in the IRS or Speaker 0: the Federal Reserve? I've It's Speaker 1: a private corporation, I guess we can't. Speaker 0: Let's call You have Speaker 1: to have somebody, you have to know somebody on the inside. Speaker 0: Let's call a broker tomorrow. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 0: Let's blow it out. Okay. Speaker 1: Sounds good. Okay. Number 11. This is interesting. Number 11 is very fascinating. He next This is Adam Weissach at the meeting May 1, 17, 70 6. He next expounded on theories regarding war. In 17/73, he set down a principle, which the governments of Britain and the United States publicly announced in their joint policy in 1939. So 200 years later, he set down the policy of the British and the American government. He said it should be the policy of those present to foment wars, but to direct press peace conferences so that neither of the combatants obtained territorial gains. He said the war should be directed so that the nations engaged on both sides would be placed further in their debt and in engaged on both sides would be placed further in their debt and in the power of our agent tours. Look at Yalta. Right? Yeah. We, the United States, won World War 2. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: We have a meeting at Yalta with, Stalin and the British, of course, are there. And what do we do? We give away half the world to the communists. Right. Okay. That isn't a perfect example. Speaker 0: So to back up a little bit, did we win? Speaker 1: No. Alright. We did not win, But the combatants obtained territorial gains and nobody gathered, any, Speaker 0: Except we were all a lot more in debt. Speaker 1: We were in debt, which is perfect. Which is yeah. Goes right along with what the Illuminati preaches. Right. Number 12, Fissoff said, In that case, he's next dealt with administration. He told those present at this meeting that they must use their wealth to have candidates chosen for public office who would be obedient to our commands, so they may readily be used as pawns in our game by the learned and ingenious men we will appoint to operate behind the scenes of government as official advisers. He added, the men we appointed as advisers will have been bred, reared, and train from childhood in accordance with our ideals to rule the affairs of the whole world. How about Rhodes Scholars? Speaker 0: Rhodes. Every high office in probably every state and Definitely, Washington DC are always the golden boy. They're always the chosen person. They come out of nowhere And automatically, they're elected. Speaker 1: Dennis, let's look at what's happened in our lifetime. Okay. Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt knew in advance they were gonna bomb Pearl Harbor. Right? Jack Kennedy's assassination, a joint CIA, Chicago mob operation. Look at, Bobby Kennedy. Right. He was assassinated. There were it was an 8 shot gun. There were 13 bullets in the walls. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: Look at Waco. Look at Oklahoma City. Now the point I'm making there is, look at the Warren Commission report on the Jack Kennedy assassination. Mhmm. The point I'm making there is the people in Washington DC who fall in this category, it seems like a majority of them do, of them do their pawns. Right. They're covering up and that's why they have control of what goes on At the high levels Speaker 0: of our government. Right. But what happens? I mean, there has to be, in my little mind, some enlightenment Somewhere, somehow. I mean, how could you can't have this many people Walking around sound asleep. I mean, I see it and I know it sounds ridiculous, but the masses, how Are they not reacting? Speaker 1: Well, first of all, we're coming to that, very shortly. In fact, that's number 13. Let me read number 13, we'll come back to that. Speaker 0: Okay. Speaker 1: Number 13, it dealt with a propaganda and explained how their combined wealth could control all outlets of public information. While they remained in the shade and clear of blame, regardless of the rep repercussions due to the publication of libel, slander, or untruths, The speaker said, quote, thanks to the press, we have got gold in our hands, notwithstanding the fact that we had to gather it out of the oceans of blood and tears, but it has paid us even though we have sacrificed many of our own people. Each victim on our side is worth a 1,000 of the masses. Control of the press. Right. If we had a real honest free press in this country, they would attack Or Arlen Specter, the senator from Pennsylvania, on the magic bullet. Right. They would attack the federal government on Oklahoma City, Speaker 0: Ruby Ridge. They would have to. Speaker 1: And a congressman should be standing on top of the the desks and shouting, we want an investigation. Right. In the World Trade Center bombing in 1993. This is documented in a New York Times article, Jan or October 28, 1993. The FBI not only knew in advance they were gonna bomb the World Trade Center, they furnished the ingredients for the bomb. Why is not congress asking for an investigation of that. 6 people were killed. Speaker 0: Right there, you're telling. You're telling. Speaker 1: That's the answer right there. Right. And the press is not doing that, mainstream media is not doing that. You are, Dennis. Speaker 0: Well, they're they're bought and paid for, the mainstream media. Speaker 1: Well, and also the large conglomerate manufacturers and big business. Right. Okay. Number 14. You next explained the necessity of having our agent tours always come out into the open and appear on the scene when conditions had reached their lowest ebb and the masses have been subjugated By means of want and terror, he pointed out that when it was time to restore order, they should do it in such a way that the victims Would believe they had been the prey of criminals and irresponsible. He said, quote, by executing the criminals and lunatics After they've carried out our preconceived reign of terror, we can make ourselves appear as the saviors of the oppressed and the champions of the workers. The speaker then added, quote, we are interested in just the opposite, in the dimension, the killing out of the masses of the people. By the way, There's a movement to reduce the world population to 500,000,000. Mhmm. United States would have 20,000,000 people, Speaker 0: right? A tenth of the population? That's right. Speaker 1: Speaking of killing out of the masses. Number 15, he next explained how industrial depressions and financial panics could be brought about and used to serve their purpose saying, quote, enforced unemployment and hunger, imposed on the masses because of the power we have to create shortages of food, will create the right of capital to rule more surely then it was given to the real aristocracy and by the legal authority of kings. He claimed that by having their agent tour control the mob, The mob could then be used to wipe out all who dared to stand in their way. Henry Kissinger made this statement once, if you wanna control the population, you control the food. Right. Number 16, that talked about the Freemasonry. Now, I wanna make it very clear, we're talking about the Masons. There are a number of outstanding wonderful men in the masons. Yeah. Okay. Just like there are good people in the FBI and good people in the CIA, But based on my research Speaker 0: people in the CIA? Beg your pardon? There are good people Speaker 1: in the There absolutely are. Okay. I know there are. As a matter of fact, There was an internal struggle going on in the CIA, I understand through my sources, and it's between, a group known as the the Graybeards, the old timers, and the second group, are called the Sonnynose Bush Kids. Okay. Self explanatory. Self explanatory. The Sonnynose Bush Kids are in control Right today. Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. I I do know, and I and I wanna emphasize that there are real good people in the FBI. I I know some of them. There are great people in the sheriff's department. There's great people in the local police departments. But for all those great people that are going down the street, there's one but stands over Well And makes it bad for all of them. That's right. Now this isn't case the case the the CIA has Not a real good name. I mean, I don't know where this is coming from, but they get blamed for everything. Now lawyers, there's a whole other thing. I mean, it isn't one that's over here. It's what was it they say? 99% of the lawyers give the other 1% a bad name, And that's that's the way I see it. Speaker 1: That's true. Speaker 0: The lawyers are totally out of control and the judges and running this Speaker 1: running this. That's right. Speaker 0: I mean, this is who you're talking about. Speaker 1: This is the story. Speaker 0: Does he mention the bar association in there? No. Not by name. Speaker 1: No, but they're part of the agents too behind the scene. Speaker 0: Right. Jeez. Speaker 1: Okay. Now, he talks about the Freemasons And, what's happened, the Illuminati has infiltrated the Freemasons. Mhmm. And they've established secret societies within a secret society. Now, I wanna make it very clear. The Freemasons are not the only, victims of this infiltration because the Illuminati has infiltrated virtually every level of society. Right. I know of law enforcement officers, judges, prosecutors, businessmen, attorneys, doctors. Speaker 0: Doctors, yeah. Speaker 1: And the scumbags that follow us around on occasion, right, and that and that sabotage your car Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: And loosen my lug nuts, They're part of the Illuminati, but they're the the dirt bags down below. They're the tools, of the Illuminati and furtherance of their cause. But so, the freemasons are are are not the only group that's been infiltrated. The churches have been infiltrated. Right. You cannot get there's there's not 1 in a 1000 there's only 1 in a 1000 ministers that will allow you to come in and talk like you and I are talking right today. Speaker 0: Right. They're afraid of losing their Speaker 1: 5 zero one. 501c3. That's right. That's right. Okay. Next, number 17. Speaker 0: There's 25 of these. Speaker 1: Yeah. Is that too much? Speaker 0: Oh, no. I can handle it. Speaker 1: Want me to keep going? Speaker 0: I can keep going. I can handle it. Speaker 1: Okay. Now, we have, yes, we have a few more to go. 8 more to go. He expounded the value of systematic deceptions, pointing out that their agent tours should be treated with the use of high sounding phrases in the use of popular slogans. This this is typical politician, isn't it? Speaker 0: Absolutely. Speaker 1: They should make the masses, the most lavish of promises. He observed, quote, the opposite of what has been promised can always be, done afterwards. That is of no consequence, end quote. He reasoned that by using such words as freedom and liberty, The masses could be stirred up to such a pitch of patriotic fervor, that they could be made to fight even against the laws of God and nature. He added, quote, and for this reason, after we obtain control of the very name of god, We will be, erased from the lexicon of life. Well, there you have it. Lavish words. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: Remember George Bush? Read my lips. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: Yeah. I will not raise taxes. Speaker 0: Right. Until I get in. Speaker 1: And he was elected. He raised taxes. Speaker 0: And but he wouldn't repeat the last Speaker 1: part of it. And how many promises did Clinton make? And how many promises have the other politicians make? You know, of the 535 congressmen and senators in Washington DC, I doubt if we have 25 or 30 that are real true Americans. Speaker 0: Mhmm. Speaker 1: That's a sad commentary. Speaker 0: It's very sad and and it's even sadder that I have to agree with you. Speaker 1: Number 18, it then detailed the plans for revolutionary war, the art of street fighting and outlined the pattern for the reign of terror, which he insisted must accompany Every revolutionary effort, quote, because it because it is the most economical way to bring the population to speediest objection. Number 19, diplomacy was next discussed. After all wars, secret diplomacy must be insisted upon, quote, In order that our agent tours, these are the men behind the scenes, masquerading as political and financial and economic advisers, can carry out our mandates without fear of exposing who, are the secret power behind in national and international affairs. The Speaker then told those present that, by secret diplomacy, they must obtain such control quote, that the nations cannot come to even an inconsiderable private agreement without our secret agents having a hand in it. After World War 2, we had Alger Hiss. Right? Right. And he was number 1 adviser to, President Roosevelt. He went to Yalta and he was instrumental in, divided up the world and gave half of it to the communists. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: He was identified as a communist agent. Speaker 0: Exactly. I mean, he was professed to be 1. Speaker 1: And, what happened? Denied it. However, when, communism was defeated in, Russia, The records were there. He was in fact a common state. Right. By the way, I have another theory on communism, the downfall of communism under the Reagan administration. Why don't we talk about that if we have time when I get through with these 25 topics? Okay, number 20, the ultimate World government was the ultimate control of the world, and taking over the world was the goal. It's number 20. To reach this goal, The speaker told them, quote, it would be necessary to establish huge monopolies, reservoirs of such colossal riches, that even the largest fortunes of the masses will depend on us to such an extent that they will go to the bottom together with the credit of our government on the day after the great political smash. The speaker then added, quote, You gentlemen here present, who are economists, just strike an estimate of the significance of this combination. Number 21, economic war. Plans to rob the masses of their landed properties and industries were been discussed. A combination of high taxes and unfair competition was advocated to bring about the economic ruin of the masses as far as their national financial interest and investments were concerned. In the international field, he felt that they could be encouraged to price themselves out of the markets. This could be achieved by the careful control of raw materials, organized agitation among the workers for shorter hours and higher pay and by subsidizing competitors. The speaker warns his coconspirators that they must arrange matters and control conditions so that the, quote, increased wages obtained by the workers will not benefit them in any way. Right. So we have the workers making more money, prices going up. Speaker 0: Yep. Exactly. Speaker 1: Increase in prices. Okay? And, we also have, control, without any doubt, of the economy by the federal government. Speaker 0: No question And we have Speaker 1: the higher taxes. Now, I think, you know, George Bush recently lowered taxes, then Congress did too, by the way. Again, I think that's a ploy. I think it's a matter of time before they'll raise them back up, because peep I really think we're making progress, Dennis. I think The people are starting to catch on. Well, I feel like they are. Yeah. Speaker 0: I feel like they are. Speaker 1: And I and I think that's the reason for Greenspan coming out and saying, oh, we're gonna lower the gas prices and also for the increase in or decrease in taxes. Mhmm. Number 22, armaments. It was suggested that the building up of armaments for the purpose of making the mass destroy each other should be launched on such a colossal scale that in the final analysis quote, there will only be the masses of the left in the world with a few millionaires millionaires devoted to our cause and police and soldiers sufficient to protect our interests. We have, you've I think you had a whole show on, the local, sheriff's office. Speaker 0: Well, the police have Flip flop now instead of protecting the rights of the citizens, they're protecting the corporations From the citizens. I mean, it's it's unbelievable. Speaker 1: Well, it's no longer government, other people, by the people. For the people, it's a it's a government for the government. Government against the people. And against the people. Speaker 0: Alright. Speaker 1: I I think we should emphasize, Dennis, that you and I are not anti government. Speaker 0: Not at all. Speaker 1: We are anti corruptionists. Right. Okay. Number 23, the new world order. Members of the one world government would be appointed by the dictator. This is once they've taken over. Mhmm. He would pick men from among the sinus, the economists, the financiers, the industrialists, and from the millionaires because, quote, in substance, everything will be settled by the question of figures, end quote. Number 24, the importance of youth. The importance of capturing the interest of youth was emphasized With the admonition that, quote, our agents should infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of fooling, bemusing, and corrupting the younger members of society by teaching them theories and principles we know to be false. 25, the last goal that was announced on that date. National and international laws should not be changed, but should be used as they are to destroy the civilization of the masses, quote, merely by twisting them into contradiction of the inter inter inter interpret of which, which first mass the law and afterwards hides it altogether. Interpretation is the word, by the interpretation which first masks the law and afterwards hides it all together. Our ultimate aim is to, substitute arbitration for law, end quote. The speaker then told the listeners, you must, you may think that the masses will rise upon us with arms, but in the west, we have against this possibility an organization of such appalling terror That the very stoutest hearts, the underground, the metropolis, the subterranean quarters, These will be established in the capitals and cities of all countries before that danger threatens. I happen to know that there are underground cities In America. Right. In Europe. Mhmm. Underground city from a good source in Kansas City and also in the Denver, Colorado. There's your, pawns in the game. This book is, fabulous. When was that published? It was published in 1956, I I think it was. Speaker 0: 19 this This fell around. Fellow said this in 1776. Speaker 1: No. It was, the and vice office announced his goal 17/76. And, William Guy Carr wrote this book in 1956, I believe, and, that's when it was published. But this book is available, through me, by the way. Speaker 0: Yeah. But it's still I mean, this guy He Speaker 1: died in 1959. Yeah. Speaker 0: This guy is talking like, that proposed all this stuff. He's talking like this is the Clinton administration. I mean, it's it's everything is there. But but I'm my point is, he said all this back in the late 1700. Speaker 1: It's May 1, 17 76 when this was announced. This is, this book is well used Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 1: As you can see. I made a lot of notes from it. I I've lectured from it. I have a charts that I've taken from this book and, this is it. Speaker 0: Well, one thing that I want to happen, before we discuss anymore and we're getting a little short on time is, I really I want You just stop the tape now and rewind it and listen to this again And maybe do it 2 or 3 times because what was said for the last 45, 50 minutes is going on out there right now. So shut us down and back us up. Speaker 1: You're not talking about your people in the studio. You're talking about people watching this. Speaker 0: No. We're talking yeah. We're talking about Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. The people Speaker 0: in the studio do it automatically. You have to fire Speaker 1: them, but they do it. Speaker 0: Yeah. Right. It's it's Except for all. I'm I'm I'm just But okay. Speaker 1: Let's I'm just being a smarty. Okay. Speaker 0: Yeah. Let's move on. There there There are many people and there are organizations that are out there that openly promote communism as a means of government. And there are people that say that what we have right now is is communism. And I have talked to a number of people who say, I mean, with a straight face. That communism is a good thing. Well, I studied this a lot and they're right. Communism is a wonderful, fantastic form of government. If you happen to be a sheep, It won't work for humans. We have the ability to think. We have the ability to create. We have the ability to desire and want to build something. So communism can't work. You can't control something that thinks and that's us. So they are as it said right there. They need to control The fact that we think they need to control what we think, and it just blows me away That, and especially, you know, for those of you that are watching this for the 3rd time, this is exactly what is in Place. This is exactly what happened and the fact that it's 200 plus years ago, Just totally brings me back to the opening statement of the show That I don't believe in the conspiracy theory because there's no theory. It's true. So What are we gonna do, Ted? Speaker 1: Well, we keep doing what you're doing. Speaker 0: And you. Go public with Speaker 1: Educate America. Wake up America. I had a, as I mentioned several times, I had no radio talk show My battle cry was wake up America, wake up America, every break, I would say wake up America. You know, I was going to, by the way, after the Oklahoma City bombing, Brian Gumbel had Jim, Nichols on his show, the brother of Terry Nichols. And, I had sent my Oklahoma City report, which we discussed in one of your shows recently, to Jim, and he asked Brian, he says, have you seen Ted Gunderson's report? And Brian says, oh, no reason to look at that, he's just a conspiracy theorist. So, that's what we're thought of and but mainstream media. What's the matter with the mainstream media that they can't take a look at this and see that they're being used? Right. I've talked to reporters on this at the street level. Mhmm. And I've given them information On on stories and cases and so forth. Yeah. I worked a number of high profile cases since I retired. The the Jeffrey McDonald case and McMartin case, and worked with Beth Lee Bailey on some cases also. Mhmm. And I've given these reporters information and then nothing came out. Nothing happens. And I'd see them later, I'd see what happened? Oh, my editor wouldn't let me print that. Right. So they're controlled by, and and if you go back, I have this, by the way, also in that book that you have right there. Mhmm. The Illuminati Illuminati. Yeah. Right. I have a copy of the newspaper article, February 9, 1917, other record, which I know you have it too. Right. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: That the, JPMorgan interest bought up 25 of America's leading newspapers Right. And inserted their own editors in order to control the press. This occurred in 1950. This, by the way, is on 29/47/29/48 of the congressional record. Right. Speaker 0: And you've got that in here. Speaker 1: I got that in there. Okay. Speaker 0: Yeah. We popped that right up on the TV screen. Right. Everybody was like I mean, their chins were hitting their chest and Speaker 1: There you go. That was 85 years ago. Right. So are you gonna tell me that William Guy Carr doesn't know what he's talking about when he says control the press? Are you gonna tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about or you don't know what you're talking about? Well, you have the same document? Speaker 0: You just said you just said exactly what the saying in there, control the thoughts, control the press. When you when you come out and say something to somebody and they dismiss it because you're a conspiracy theorist or they dismiss it because you're a white guy or they dismiss it because you limp. Whatever the media has decided is not good is exactly what the masses are gonna do. They're not gonna they're not going to read that because it's already programmed in That you're a bad person that it came from. You offered this information. So therefore, you are a conspiracy theorist. That's bad. You talk to a guy who knew a lady whose best friend's dog knew somebody that was in the militia. You're bad. That's what the media does. And and and and that's you know, I've heard that so many times. Well, why should I believe that? Because you are This. Speaker 1: You're a cook. Speaker 0: You're a cook. You're a patriot. Speaker 1: You're a militia member. Speaker 0: Yeah. Exactly. It just proves that that's the truth because that's what you just said. When you read that, that's what he said. Mess them up until whatever Speaker 1: Make confusion. Speaker 0: Make confusion. Ask confusion. Yeah. Right. And using Words such as liberty, liberty and justice for all. Using phrases such as that, and turning them negative is amazing. The only thing I've done so far that's been really successful as I dropped Patriot, and all those things. And and I signed my name, Dennis Grover, comma, American. And so far, they haven't demonized it. Speaker 1: They can't demonize that. That yeah. So They can't. Speaker 0: They still don't like me much, but but that's what I am. That's what you are. And these people, you know, William Jefferson, I can't say that word. Clinton got up and said he was an American, And it was a toughest time I ever had keeping my lunch down. They're making a lot of signals at us. They give us they give us this, you know, and I never know if that means wind it up or there's black helicopters coming. Anyway, Ted Well, Speaker 1: let's split right on 60 second or 60 minutes. Speaker 0: Put it right on yeah. We've got to get out of here. Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 0: Alright. Not just for being here, but for being you. Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Speaker 0: It's You too. It's been a pleasure. Speaker 1: My pleasure. Speaker 0: Alright. And, anything we can do to help anybody out there, call Ted first. And then if he can't do it, give me a call. I'll find somebody else.
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@Wordsarewordz - Words are words

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There are still people who deny the importance of masks and social distancing. Misinformation is widespread. Experts like Dr. Fauci, who have dedicated their lives to studying viruses, should be trusted. Vaccination, mask-wearing, and social distancing are crucial in preventing the spread of the virus. Personal freedom should not be prioritized over public health and responsibility.
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Speaker 0: There's still people that live in denials. There's still people that don't believe in masks. There's still people out there that say, well, we don't have to do social distancing and all all this kind of stuff. There is misinformation out there. And my point of it was basically, look, there's no one that knows more about Abysit all than I do, because I studied this issue for 50 years. And the same is also with the virus. There are people out there that are experts that started this year after year after year, all. And that they experienced, like, doctor Fauci that has been at this, you know, probably for his entire life. I mean, why would you not believe someone like that? All. So and there's so many other scientists out there and experts in this subject. So I believe them, and I follow them very carefully. And, of course, Sometimes things are happening that are unexpected, so then you have to make the adjustments and all that. But I think people should know all. There is a virus here. It kills people, and the only way we prevent it is is to get vaccinated, to wear masks, all. To do social distancing, washing your hands all the time, and not just to think about, well, my freedom is being kind of disturbed here. No. All. Screw your freedom because with freedom comes applications and, and responsibilities.
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Retired FBI chief Ted Gunderson exposes secret societies and a "Shadow Government" within the US government. He discusses child trafficking and how politicians are being blackmailed with drugs and sex. Gunderson also mentions the involvement of private schools in Nebraska in sending boys and girls to DC for sex parties with powerful individuals. The video is recommended for its eye-opening information. A comment expresses no surprise that George Bush attended one of these parties.

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Retired FBI chief Ted Gunderson explains secret societies & groups within the government, a “Shadow Government.” Ted has done many seminars informing the public about child trafficking & how our government is complicit in it, here in this video he speaks about politicians being blackmailed with drugs & sex. Even goes on to talk about how private schools in Nebraska (The Franklin Cover-up) were sending boys & girls on private jets to DC for sex parties with powerful people. Highly recommend people bookmark & share this, it’s full of eye opening information from a very well informed retired FBI chief, Ted Gunderson is an American hero.🇺🇸

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Presidential candidate Ted Gunderson discusses his experiences on the campaign trail and sheds light on the influence of the Illuminati in various aspects of society, such as drugs, sex, blackmail, and control of the press. He criticizes both Republicans and Democrats, emphasizing the manipulation of elections and the economy. Gunderson also talks about his involvement in the Jeffrey R. MacDonald case and exposure to satanic cults. The speaker in another segment touches on the McMartin preschool case, the Finders case, mind control, the Federal Reserve System, and the Oklahoma City bombing. They mention alleged tunnels at the McMartin School, evidence of satanic cult activities, and the involvement of the CIA. The speaker also discusses their own presidential campaign and plans to restore constitutional government. Senator Dole is interviewed about conspiracy theories, including allegations of sexual misconduct by politicians and corruption within the judiciary system. He mentions rumors about Gerald Ford being a Satanist and alleged affairs involving Bill and Hillary Clinton. The senator expresses concerns about the safety of those involved in these allegations and discusses underground cities, genealogy, and the case of Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald.
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Speaker 0: This evening, at the Granada forum, we welcome presidential candidate Ted Gunderson. As regards his background, he's a former special agent in charge of Los Angeles office of the FBI. He served there for 27 and a half years. In 1979, he founded the Ted L. Gunderson and associates at the Santa Monica based firm doing international security consulting and investigation. F Lee Bailey, Esquire, the famous attorney, once described Ted Gunderson as a person with investigative skills that are unsurpassed by anyone I know or have known. Tonight, he will be speaking on his recent experiences On the campaign trail as a democratic candidate for President of the United States, we'll hear about his platform and plan to return America to the constitutional abduction and drug running. Now please join me in giving Ted a warm welcome. Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's a pleasure being here. And, You know, I kind of changed my lecture around driving up here today, and I just prepared something brand new. I'm getting kind of tired of the drugs in Oklahoma City. And But, maybe we can go into that in the question and answer. In fact, I welcome it. But, Several years ago, I gave a lecture in, Las Vegas. And after the lecture, a man walked up to me, without identifying himself, would I introduce himself? And he said, I wanna present this to you. I want you to understand what you're combating and what the problems are in this country At the very lowest level, at the highest level too. And he handed me this book. It's called pawns in the game. And this book is written by William Guy Carr, and he's a retired commander. And basically what it is, it's a story about the The secret government, the shadow government, the Illuminati. And for a long time, I've thought, you know, I think that we should all know about that. And that's something that Oftentimes, on the radio shows, they don't want you to get into because they people seem to be afraid of it. Many of the announcers and the hosts don't like to get into too many controversial matters. What do you want me to do? Oh, hold it up? Sure. Uh-huh. So what I'd like to do tonight, and we'll discuss those other, Matters, Oklahoma City bombing and my political career, which so far has been very exciting and very interesting. In the question and answer, if we may. By the way, okay, take it down. Thank you. Okay. How long of a program do we want would we like to have here tonight? Can somebody tell me so I can kinda time it? Hour 15. Hour 15? Okay. When the Bell goes off at 9:15. Why if you wanna just get up and walk out, I'll understand. Okay. But, let's talk about let's talk about the Illuminati. After all, based on everything that I've been able to come up with and research, really, that's the very essence of the problem in this country today and around the world, Really. And it was founded on May 5th May 1, 17, 76 by Adam Weishaupt. He was a German, and the basic philosophy of the Illuminati was superior beings with superior intelligence have the right to rule those less gifted because the masses don't know what is best for them. That sounds kind of like an interesting situation. And, so I'm going to just kind of go to the book and then we're going to go back to real practical experiences, And then we're gonna go back and forth. We're gonna kinda pick this book apart. It'll be a I think it'll be an interesting lecture. 1st time ever as I said, I prepared this coming up from Las Vegas. So I told my friend Bob Duffy over here, Bob, if it's too dry, just tell me I won't give it again. Okay? But anyway, Weinstrop organize the Illuminati. To put the plot into execution, the word Illuminati is derived from Lucifer and means holder of the light. Using the lie that his objective was to bring about a one world government to enable men with proven mental ability to govern the world, he recruited about 2,000 followers. And these included the most intelligent men in the field of the arts and letters, education in science, finance and industry. He then established lodges in the Grand Orient to be their secret headquarters. And Weisbrot's revised plan required his Illuminati to do the following things to help him accomplish their purpose. Number 1, use monetary and sex bribery to obtain control of people already occupying positions in high places In the various levels of all governments and other fields of human endeavor, Once an influential person had fallen for the lies, deceits, and temptations of the Illuminati, they were to be held in bondage by application of political and other forms of blackmail, and threats of financial ruin, public exposure, and physical harm, and even death to themselves and to their loved ones. Now, I became involved in the Jeffrey R. McDonald I'm sure many of you remember that case. And that was my 1st exposure to the Illuminati. Within 10 months of entering the case, I obtained a signed confession from Helena Stokley. The Jeffrey r McDonald is there anybody that does not remember that case? He's a former Green Beret doctor, was convicted of murdering his wife and 2 children. February 17, 1970, Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Didn't do it. October 25, I obtained a confession from Elena Stokely, right down here in Westwood, in my office. And at that time, she said that doctor McDonald did not commit those crimes. Those crimes were committed by my ctenic cult group. And being as I've been in the FBI 27 and a half years, almost 28 years, I believe it or not, I really didn't know anything about Satanism or about satanic activity. That was my 1st exposure to it. And since then, believe me, in researching and in, as a matter of practical experience, I've run across time and time again. So the first phase of mister Weistropp's, proposal was drugs and sex and blackmail. Right? Well, in my last in the last 16 years I've been involved in this field, I just have a few headlines here. Washington Times power broker served Drugs, sex at parties, bug for blackmail. Homosexual prostitution probe ensnarled officials of Bush and Reagan, Washington Times again. Top Japanese politician linked to Spence, that's Craig Spence. Craig Spence was a CIA, operative whose specialty was to set up and blackmail prominent politicians, dignitaries, ambassadors, and so forth. And once they were blackmailed, then of course, our government, mainly the CIA, for the most part, had them in their hip pocket. So that's a very common thing. And, also I run across this situation In the Nebraska case, I began, I became involved in the Nebraska cases called the Franklin cover up in late 1989. And, as a result of my investigation, and working with John de Camp, we developed about the children who were being taken out of private schools in Omaha, boys and girls, by private limousine to Sioux City, Iowa, 120 miles away, placed on private jets and flown to Washington DC for sex orgy parties with congressmen and senators and prominent, politicians, governors, and, ambassadors. So these kids, some of these children were also taken to, the Republican National Convention in New Orleans, and also in Dallas, Texas. This is a typical situation. Now when it comes time to vote on a particular bill, And somebody comes around and says, I want you to vote this way because you remember we were at that party the other day, and there was a 10 year old kid back in the bedroom with you. How do you think he's gonna vote? Right? And I might mention that, the kids all placed George Bush at one of those parties when he was vice president. R. George Bush, which doesn't surprise me of course. Okay. The next point in question with this, The Illuminati and, mister Weissopp's ideas. The Illuminati, on the campuses and, on the on the faculties of colleges and universities to we recommend students possessing exceptional mental ability, belonging to well bred families with international learnings for special training in internationalism. This training was to be provided by granting scholarships to those selected. They were to be educated and indoctrinated Into accepting the idea that only 1 world government can put an end to recurring wars and tribulations. They were to be at first persuaded and then convinced that men of special ability and brains had the right to rule those less gifted, Because the the Goyim, meaning the masses of the people, didn't know what is best for them physically, mentally, and spiritually. And then it goes on and it mentions the 3 specific schools. And then the third point, in his platform, was to influence influential people trapped into coming under the control of the Illuminati. The students had to be especially educated and trained, were to be used a as agent tour, and placed behind the scenes of all governments all governments as experts and specialists, So they could advise the top executives to adopt policies which would, in the long run, serve the secret plans of the one worlders, and bring about the ultimate destruction of the governments and religions they were elected or appointed to serve. Now let's think back to, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. You remember his secretary of state? What was his name? I'm trying to think of it. Cordelho. 1 and and just recently, when when Cordelho is he? No. It was the he was, he's been at it's been documented since the, Soviet Union. Speaker 2: Was it documented? Speaker 1: I can't think of his name. Stinson? No. It wasn't it. Anyway What a law? No. That wasn't it either. Well, Wolf, I'll tell you. Recently, I I was think I was trying to think about this coming up, couldn't think of his name. I'll find out from the next lecture, by the way. His last name. Well, when he went secretary, he's the top adviser. And he went with him to Yalta, Franklin Delano Roosevelt to Yalta. Yes. Yes. And Hiss, it's been documented since the, fall of the wall, the Berlin Wall, it's been documented That Alger Hiss was in fact a Soviet spy. And look what we gave away at Yalta. So this is typical. The 4th point, the Illuminati were to obtain control of the press and all other agencies which distribute information to the public. News and information was to be slanted so that the, Joyam Goyam would come to believe that a one world government is only solution to our many and varied problems. Well, I don't probably have to talk to you much about the one world control press because that's exactly what they are. And I've had some experience on the campaign trail in that regard. Late November, I decided to run for president of the United States. I've been a Republican all my life. But I felt that, to be the most effective candidate, I should, for the first time, register as a Democrat, and I did. And as a result, I went to a number of democratic rallies. And, I, publicly stated, how I felt, and, I was not too popular. It's kinda like the, the the bastard at the family reunion, if I may say. And as a matter of fact, I remember in Galveston, I, I stood behind this fellow at the we were registering, and I introduced myself and Ted told him I was running for president On the Democratic ticket, I told him he had a choice. He had a conservative Democrat, a Jeffersonian Democrat, or Bill Clinton. He said, I've already decided to vote for my friend, Bill. I said, well, let me talk to you a little bit about it, and I don't wanna talk to you. Well, I'd like no, I don't wanna talk to you. I tried it 4 times, and he wouldn't let me get one word in. So that's kinda typical of what happened to me. But at that same rally, there was a judge who was master of ceremonies. And, after the, the program was over, and, Richard Gebhardt spoke there by And after the program was over, I went up and shook hands with the judge, and he very quietly said, I have to say that, I admire what you're doing. And, but he also said, don't tell anybody I told you that. New Hampshire. In New Hampshire, the 1st press release that came out gave, Clinton, As, 94% of the vote. And the rest of us all had 6%. Now I registered in New Hampshire, and, unfortunately, I was not able to even make a trip to New Hampshire because, my finance was so tight. But I did end up 11th out of 21 candidates, so there's somebody up there that knows about me anyway. But, in checking behind the scenes, so to speak, I learned that the truth of the matter was that Bill Clinton received 91%, The rest of us received 6%, and 3% of the people took their ballots and didn't vote for anybody. So that's of course one of the ways that they do it. Austin, Texas. 1 Sunday, here a couple of Sundays ago, They had a rally at the state capitol billing for the Branch Davidians. And I was asked to appear there as a speaker, make a few comments. I was about the 4th or 5th speakers. I was the 5th speaker, as a matter of fact. And they had some of the victims, and, Some of the victims who were able to get out of there. 1 man, I felt so sorry for him. He lost his 18 year old daughter. He was also there, was able to get out. They had the relatives of the victims and so forth. And I was the last speaker. When I got up to speak, a CBS affiliate there took the cameras down and walked off. And, and so I would I started talking about some of the problems we have in this country, you know. Little things like 1,000,000,000 of dollars of drug money laundered through BCCI and the savings alone fiasco where people lost their whole life savings in, Ruby Ridge and Waco. And, and I felt that the media should at least be aware of it since they don't ever print anything about those various items. And, they just kept on walking. And finally, I just said, you know, ladies and gentlemen, you've been betrayed and we've been betrayed. We've been betrayed by the White House. We've been betrayed by Congress. We've been betrayed by politicians. And worst of all, we've been betrayed by the American press and by the American media. And, I pointed at them. I said, this is a perfect example. They're walking off to left. And they've turned around and stuck stopped and looked at me, and I and I I signaled them out. In Iowa, just the other day, I don't know if you're aware of this or not. If it even came over on the, news service, Peter, I don't know if it did or not, but I heard about it through my sources. The precinct captains in Iowa were given instructions to call the results of each of their precincts to the voter news service, first and foremost. Now the voter news service is made up of the representatives from CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and the Associated Press. And they did that, just that. And I also heard through various sources that on that particular day, there were 8 primaries. This was a caucus in Iowa, of course, but there were a total of 8, including this caucus. And in Iowa, excuse me, in the 6 of the 8, the precinct captains the Republican precinct captains We're given the same instructions. They can't prove it in the other 5 because they were all using computers, and it's impossible to determine If a computer is accurate or not after the fact, there's no way to go back and check on it. But in the Iowa situation, They went back and they found out that they shaved 13% of the votes off of Buchanan. And, I understand that story was broken in the Manchester Union Leader, which is a Republican paper and Manchester, well known paper. I didn't see it any place and I've been, trying to be alert for it. Was it to come across the news service? Okay. That's typical of the American media and American press. Now, let's talk a little bit about the computers. And, there's something absolutely has to be done About these electronic voting machines. John DeCamp, a good friend of mine and attorney in Lincoln, Nebraska, was running for governor of the state of Nebraska in the last election. A week before the poll a week before the election, he was first in polls. 1st time in the history of the Omaha World Herald, by the way, that they had never published the results of the polls. Now there's a reason for that because John DeCamp had identified one of the main perpetrators in the Nebraska Franklin cover up case as Harold Anderson, former publisher of the Omaha World Herald. And of course, Bob Wadman, chief of police, was one of the individuals identified by the children. And Eugene Mahoney, Head of Nebraska Forestry Service, was identified, and 2 other very prominent citizens there in Lincoln. But he ended up, in the election coming in 3rd. He was leading the week before, ended up in 3rd. He checked in. John and his associates, his people checked into this computer, the computer system. And basically, the way that it works is this way. The ballots are put into box at each location, and then 2 people from each party at each at at each machine, and 1 person from the elected committee is at that machine also. Now they run, say, 120 ballots through the machine just as a sample. And if they all check out, then they continued to run the rest of them. And they say well this machine is all right because the 120 were accurate. But the trouble is they can set those machines so that starting with number 139, somebody else gets the vote. In fact, there's a lady in New Orleans, who after the election, she was defeated. After the election, she went down and personally checked the machine. She punched her name, And the vote came up as her opponent's vote. So something has to be done. I think they need to outlaw those. Speaking of drugs, and as we're talking about basically the Illuminati, I'm gonna mention one of the programs that's being used, by a clandestine group of US government operatives, primarily the CIA. It's called the Black Rose. And it went it has for many years, run illegal drugs and arm operations, both, Southeast Asia via the Golden Triangle, and the Middle East Via the Golden Crescent founded by the British socialist based, Russell Trust drug cartel, the Black Rose current chairman and cofounder is an individual known as the White Rose or GHWB, also known as, better known as George Bush. Indeed it was Bush, who as top member of the Skull and Bone Society, developed the heroin ring, which, serviced as ambassador along with his CIA activities. The back rows also ran cocaine through Panama from Colombia To the offshore oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, owned by the Bush family, the Zapata Oil Company. Don't mean to pick on George Bush, but I'll get around to Clinton in a few minutes. Okay? But but my point I think my point here is I don't think there's a dime's worth of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats. Sorry Betty. I have a very prominent Republican lady sitting right down here who's a dear friend of mine. Past president of the Ladies Republican Club. Right, Betty? I remember I spoke to him when I was in the FBI. She's she's not one of them though, I guarantee you that. But, anyway, You know, we really have some problems in this country. And I don't think there's that much difference between Bush, Dole, or Clinton, any all the 3 of them. And I'm gonna discuss I'll discuss Dole a little bit later on. But anyway, in a in a subsequent meeting of the Illuminati On July 16, 1982, they came up with a 7 part goal. Now listen to this closely. Order or they came up with it. Order of chaos. Create chaos in your society in your home. Abolishment of private property. Abolishment of inheritance, abolishment of patriotism, abolishment of all religions, abolishment of the family, and creation of a new world order. I'm gonna just give you, next, A little summary of the Communist Manifesto. 1. Abolishment of private property. Heavy progressive income tax. Abolishment of all rights of inheritance. Confiscation of property of all immigrants and rebels. A central bank. Government control of communication and transportation. Government ownership of factories and agriculture. Government control of labor. Cooperative farms regional planning, government control of education. Let's go back to the book now. On 17/73, when, Meyer Rothschild was only 30 years of age, He invited 12 other wealthy and influential men to meet him at Frankfurt. His purpose was to convince them that if They agreed to pool their resources, they could then finance and control the World Revolutionary Movement, and use it as their manual of action To win ultimate control of the wealth, natural sort, resources, and manpower of the entire world. During this meeting, This is recorded by the way. These are just there were 26 various points topics that were discussed, but I'm just gonna skip through a few of them that I think apply to our situation here today. And, during this meeting, It was discussed and he argued that the use of any and all means to reach their final goal was justified on the grounds that the ruler who governed by the was not a skilled politician because he left himself vulnerable and in an unstable position on the throne. He said those who wish to rule must have recourse to cunning and to make believe because great national qualities like frankness and honesty Our vices in politics. Okay. Item that was no item number 4. Item number 8. I'm skipping through because it would be too long if I read them all. Okay? He next advocated that the use of listen to this. Alcohol, Drugs, moral corruption, and all forms of vice be used systematically by their agenteurs, To corrupt the morals of the youth of the nation, he recommended that the special agent tourers should be trained as tutors, governesses, clerks, and by women in the places of dissipation frequented by the That's a mass of the people by the way. He added, quote: In the number of these last, I count also the so called society ladies Who become voluntary followers of the others in corruption and luxury. We must not stop at bribery, deceit, and treachery When they should serve towards the attainment of their end, of our end. So we talk about drugs. And is it not obvious what's going on in this country? What about Iran Contra, arms for drugs? I personally have talked to 2 CIA pilots who were involved in the drug operation. You know, one of them spoke to her recently, Terry Reed. Another one's a good friend of mine in Dallas, Texas. And, why neither one of these people have been, suicided, I will never know. But the the one in Dallas, has been sent to jail, and, the attempts were made on his life once he was in the prison. So our friend Bill Clinton, was fully aware of the situation in Arkansas when he was governor. In fact, the Maine, Arkansas operation lasted for at least 10 years. It was personally brought to his attention by Larry Nichols. I think you Some of you heard Larry Nichols last night. But Bill Clinton told Larry, well it's a state it's not a state matter, it's a federal matter. The Arkansas redevelopment, authority was designed by Bill Clinton and some of his colleagues. And every loan that was supposed to have been made for the churches and the schools and the students. Every loan was personally signed by Bill Clinton. This is documented in, Clinton Chronicles and the most recent of which is Clinton Chronicles 2. Have any of you seen Clinton Chronicles 2? It's available. Do we have any back there? It is available, I think, at our table. Is there maybe somebody else is selling it also? But there's no question about the Mena, Arkansas situation. In that 10 year period, there was not one confiscation of an automobile, a railroad, or an airplane with drugs. And there was not one conviction, in spite of the fact that the governor of The state of Arkansas, Bill Clinton knew fully well about the operation. The police officers who attempted to investigate the case were either reassigned, and some of Bill Clinton's personal security guards, 1 in particular, was murdered. And 5 of the security men said that on at least 100 occasions, Bill Clinton was involved with at least 100 different women. In other words, he's a womanizer. As Congressman Denomar said, he's a womanizing draft dodging. What's that? Spot smoking. Liar. Pathological liar. Pathological error, and he should be impeached, and I'll have to go along with that. Now, what about the CIA? Well I first ran into CIA drug operations and also army drug again going right back to the Jeffrey r McDonald case. I couldn't believe that they were bringing drugs and I was kind of a boy scout, guess being in the FBI, we were it was a good organization then. I was apple pie, Chevrolet, and all that, and very patriotic. I still am, of course. But I couldn't believe that our boys who died for us in the southeast were being used, their body cavities were used, By placing drugs in plastic bags and being brought into this country by army personnel, top ranking officers, police officers involved in the Jeffrey McDonald case, at least 2 attorneys. And by the way, this is documented in Time Magazine, January 1, 19 73. And then the Newgenhand Bank was set up in Sydney, Australia, specifically to wander, money coming out of Southeast Asia in the sixties and early seventies. And then we had BCCI. And who's behind this primarily? The CIA. The CIA. I've talked to CIA agents who told me That we make other terrorists in the country look like a Sunday School class. That we are the most treacherous terrorists active in the world today, the CIA is. I don't know if you're aware of MK Ultra, the mind control program. Or if you're aware of some of these other operations that the CIA has, I have a whole list of them. It'd take me 2 hours if I started reviewing them with you. But, this is disgraceful. Disgraceful not only as human beings, but also as a democratic organization and country. Okay. So we have drugs and then The next, item that on the agenda in the book says number 6, He then, admonished his listeners with these words. Quote. The power of our resources must remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it. He warned them that any deviation from the line of the strategical plan he was making known to them would risk bringing to naught the laborers of centuries. That pretty well speaks for itself. I think that the Illuminati and this evil element in our society has been very good, Mainly through control of the media in, not in alerting the American people as to what's the underlying problems are in this particular area. And, that's all organized. And then, item number 9, turning to politics. He claimed this was at that meeting now, remember? He claimed that they had the right to seize property by any means and without hesitation, if by doing so, They secure submission and sovereignty. He pronounced, quote, our state marching along the path of peaceful conquest has the right to replace the horrors of war by less noticeable and more satisfactory sentences of death necessary to maintain the terror which tends to produce blind submission. Are you familiar with Dianne Feinstein's, federal land takeover? Right? I know you are. Are you familiar with the laws that allow, our alphabet teams, BATF, FBI And others to come in and seize assets? Are you aware that there's a statute? I haven't seen this with my own eyes yet. I've been told this. And when I Say it's true, it's true because I've documented it, or I've had the research on it. This, I don't have the research on. I've been told there was a statute passed recently that allowed The federal government to seize land and additional, criminal charges, misdemeanors, other than mainly drugs, which is what they've used in the past. I know of person, individual after individual who just lost their land, lost their property. So this kind of follows with the pattern. There's a financial crimes enforcement network active in the country today. And it's little known agency within the Treasury Department, Whose subversive mission is to monitor every dime you earn, track every dollar you spend, And identify all your assets and property for later confiscation. They haven't been doing too well with me lately, I'll tell you. That's the way that's the way they keep you down and out is they keep you broke. And then, there's a, international biosphere, reverse reserve reserves, it is. In In the New World Order, this team of, for a section of land that has been turned over to the World Conservation Bank, in lieu of payment of the debt to the World Bank. In the US, largely unknown to most by most Americans, many, beautiful national parks and wilderness are quietly being turned over to the World bankers, the Rothschild, and the Rockefellers cartel, as payment on the national debt areas such as Smoky Mountain National Park. These are let then cleared of any citizens, and zealously patrolled by US Forestry Services. By the way, most recently, I learned that, in recent years, US Forestry Services are now carrying firearms. They didn't used to carry firearms in the old days. In fact, the entire basin of Brazil is now the property of the prime Philip of England, who heads the international biosphere reserve for the World Conservation Bank. This is happening all over the world, ladies and gentlemen. Item number 11. He next, expounded his theories regarding war. In 17/73, set down a principle which the governments of Britain and the United States publicly announced as their joint policy in 1939. Now wait a minute. This is 17/73. And he talked about a war in 1939. This is documented, ladies and gentlemen. He said it should be the policy of those present to foment wars but to direct the peace conferences so that neither of the combatants obtained territorial gains. I'd say, I think the Russians came out far ahead of us. He said the war should be directed so that the nations engaged on both sides will be placed further in their debt and in the power of our agent George. Wars. These are the people that tell us when we go to war. These are the people, the World Bank, the Silent Bank, the behind the scenes, agency, World Bank, Federal Reserve, you name it. They're the ones that tell us who's gonna be in the White House, who's going to be elected. And if they can't get them in the White House, They can always just not have a primary like we did in Kansas recently with Bob Dole. Right? If it doesn't look too good for him. Okay. Number 12. He next dealt with administration. He told those present that they must use their wealth to have candidates chosen for public office who would, be obedient to our commands, this is in quotes, so they may readily be used as pawns in our game by the learned an ingenious man we will appoint to operate behind the scenes of government as official advisers. He added that the men we appoint as advisers Will have been bred, reared, and trained from childhood in accordance with our ideas to rule the affairs of the whole world. Well, I just mentioned the Nebraska case. They're, running kids back there, blackmailing politicians. I recall another case. As a result of the McDonald investigation, I became a so called satanic expert, and have testified As an expert witness on satanic cult matters, I recall a lady in New York City came to me. And she had been in the cult, had been raised in the cult as a multi generation member of the satanic cult group, her mother and father, grandmother and so forth. And she was sent to law school specifically to learn about immigration, into this country, that she was an immigration attorney. And she told me herself that she used to make trips to Europe to pick up children, and bring them into Kennedy airport and turn the children over to 2 men, a man and a woman, who she had never even seen before. Item number 13. He dealt with propaganda and explained how their combined wealth could all outlets of public information while they remained in the shade and clear, blame regardless of what the repercussions might be due to the publications of libel, slander or untruths. The speaker said, thanks to the press, we have got gold in our hands, notwithstanding the fact that we had to gather it out of the oceans of blood and tears. But it has paid us even though we have sacrificed many of our own people. Each victim on our side is worth a 1,000 goyems. Propaganda, Libel, slander, in the Nebraska case again. The children have identified Warren Buffett As being involved in this operation, this this ring, Warren Buffett's the richest man in America. Warren Buffett is a major stockholder, ABC Television. Warren Buffett is a major stockholder in the Washington Post. I recall recently speaking to the media after the Oklahoma City bombing, I was interviewed by, Nightline. NBC. Is it Nightline or Dateline, Peter? Nightline. And, Chris Hanson interviewed me. And, The producer was, Italian named Joe some I forget his name offhand. Anyway, they they had me Come over to the hotel in Las Vegas. They came to Las Vegas. And I went over, and we sat down, and they interviewed me for two and a half hours. And they kept asking me the same question over and over and over. One question they must have asked me 10 or 12 times. And I've been dealing with the media for, well, for about 25 or 30 years. So I knew what he was doing. He's waiting for me to give the weakest answer or a poor answer or a different answer so that they could, discredit me. And, this happened to me on on a regular occasion. After Chris Hansen finished, I don't know if any of you saw that, the final product. They tried to make me look like an idiot on national television. Don't think they succeeded. I was told they didn't. The producer said to me, and there had just been an article in Spotlight Magazine about, Now I talked about the Oklahoma City bombing, it was the big lie, which it still is, and I still claim it is, and I know it is. And, John Doe too, by the way, is either a government agent or an operative. There's no question about it. I'll be glad to tell you why I think that later on, the questions and answers. And and and the producer said, okay. Christmas tree said, mister Gunnarson, would you tell us about your alignment with Spotlight Magazine? I said, I'm not aligned with anybody. I said, I will talk to any member of the press if he wants to interview me. After all, I'm talking to you, aren't I? And, and Chris, I recall, he kind of grinned a little bit. But that was typical. They were there specifically to try discredit me to embarrass me. There's no question about it. The other 2 people they put on, a fellow named Jackson who was an ex con And the Thompson, I think it was a Thompson lady. Now Van you remember the one that said that the Japanese did it? Yeah. They they they did a pretty good job on that. But then number 15. He next explained how industrial depressions and financial panic could be brought about and used to serve their purposes, saying: Enforced unemployment and hunger imposed on the mass because of the power we have to create shortages of food, will create the right of capital rule more surely than it was given, to the real, Aristocracy, and by the legal authority of King's. He claimed that by having their agent tour control the mob, the mob could then be used to wipe out all who dared to stand in the way. Well, let's think about that. What about all the farms that are being taken away from the farmers in the Midwest? They're going to the big conglomerates. And we're talking about, shortage of food. Right now, there's a shortage of food. There's is, 50 large grain elevators that are secretly hidden in the Midwest that are full of grain from the federal government. The federal government is storing them there. We have a shortage of food, for the first time in years. People don't realize it. There's only about a 3 week backup in the supermarkets. And Kissinger, at one time, several years ago, made the statement, want to control the population, you control the flow of food and the food supply. What does that do? If they make us hungry and starving, we're not going to be very good fighters, right? And then of course, as far as financial panic is concerned, as I mentioned earlier, BCCI, 1,000,000,000 of dollars lost, their savings and loan, and so forth. Item number 19. Dis diplomacy was next discussed. After all wars, secret diplomacy must be insisted upon in order that our agent tour, Masquerading as political, financial, and economic advisers can carry out their mandates without fear of exposing who are the secret powers behind the national and international affairs. The speaker then told those present that by secret diplomacy, they must have seen such control, quote, That the nations cannot come to even an inconceivable private agreement without our secret agents having it on hand. Number 20. The ultimate world government is the goal. To reach this goal, the Speaker told them it would be necessary to establish huge monopolies, reservoirs of such colossal riches, that even the largest fortunes of the the goyams will depend on us to such an extent that they will go to the bottom together with the credit of their governments on the day after the great The speaker then added, you gentlemen here present who are economists, just strike an estimate of the significance of this combination. Think that's happening to us today. Are you familiar with the, meeting in San Francisco, September 27th, October 1st? Gorbachev Bush led the charge. Margaret Thatcher was there to establish plans for a global civilization. His newspaper article to that effect. Number 21, economic war. Plans to rob the Goyams, Of their landed properties and industries were then discussed. A combination of high taxes and unfair competition was advocated to bring about the economic ruin of the GOEM as far as our national financial interests and investments were concerned. In the international field, he felt that he could be encouraged to price themselves out of the markets. They could be achieved by the careful control of raw materials, organized agitation among the workers for shorter hours and higher pay and by subsidizing competitors. The speaker warned his co conspirators that they must arrange matters and control conditions so that the increased wages Obtained by the workers will not benefit them in any way. What about NAFTA and GAP? In the oil industry, from the period of 1986 to 1992, there were at 1.4,000 oil rigs in the independent oil industry. There's less than 700 as of 1992. Instead of developing our own natural resources, the oil industry in this country, What we're doing, we're bringing them in at the rate of 15,000,000 barrels per day in 12 supertankers out of the Middle East. And George Bush and his family, the Potawell Company, owned a number of those supertankers. I've been told also by a CIA informant that they're not only bringing oil in those supertankers, but they're also bringing drugs in those supertankers. In the 26 years, from 1946 to 1971, the US trade surplus. I emphasize this. Surplus. $98,000,000,000, Economy grew at the rate of 4.8% per year. The national debt rose $148,000,000,000. In a 23 year period from 1972 to 1994, the US suffered a $1,600,000,000,000 trade deficit. Economy grew 3.8%. The federal debts soared at an annual rate of 3,200%, More than any preceding 26 years by $4,300,000,000,000. NAFTA and GATT, they put out, Vineyards out of business. I understand that there's a high unemployment rate in the San Diego area and that A number of the companies are moving over into Mexico across the border, putting our people out of work. We are losing jobs in this country at the rate of 16,300 jobs a week. So far since yet and after passed, American labor market has lost over 800,000 jobs. Item number 24. Importance of youth. The importance of capturing the interests of use with emphasize and, admonish admonition I'm sorry about that. That our agen tourist should infilter into all classes and levels of society and government For the purpose of fooling, bemusing, and corrupting the younger members of society by teaching them theories and principles we know to be false. Okay. Let's talk about the youth for a while. How about these children in the Nebraska case? Paul Benassi, one of 4 children who refused To recant his signed statement, there were 80 children came forward in that case, said that he was part of an organized child kidnapping ring When he was 10, 11, 12 years old, he was used as a decoy to attract other children in public locations, parks, malls and so forth, over to the car, and the adults would grab them and throw them in the car. Reader's Digest, July 1982, more than 100,000 children disappear every year, and I never heard from again. I'm not talking about runaway teenagers. Talking about 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 year old kids. In the Nebraska case, Paul said that these kids are kept in safe houses across the country, And ultimately auctioned off in, Las Vegas, Nevada, an airstrip there, and also Toronto, Canada. And the in this particular case, he said he's attended 6 such auctions in Las Vegas. The least number of children were 6, the most were 36. The average kid, 10, 11, 12 years old, blue eye blonde hair sells for about $50,000. I wrote a letter to the, attorney general of the United States, William Barr. Wrote a letter to the FBI. Wrote a letter to the governor of the state of Nebraska. Wrote a letter to the attorney general of the state of Nebraska. And I told him about this. And I told him, don't believe me. I only used to be in charge of the FBI in Southern Come see me. I'll give you my sources. You can talk to the people that I talked to, the people that gave me statements. Speaker 3: And you Speaker 1: know what, I received 2 responses. Number 1, my sources were not credible. Number 2, You're you don't have the proper documentation. I immediately documented my, information and sent a 20 page document back. I have not received any response today. How about the McMartin case? Okay. Everybody's familiar with that being in this area. You are aware of course that The children said they were taken down in tunnels under the school, and they were taken through the tunnels up into the triplex next door, taken out into automobiles, and prostitute. These are 2, 4 year old children. And the authorities came in and said, well, I don't think these children are are telling the truth. They're imagining this. And, so they said they were fantasizing. And of course, we know what happened. Ray Buckey was, hung jury twice out, you know, Virginia or, the old lady, Miss McMartin, acquit it. Well in the spring of 1990, I had an opportunity to gain control of the McMartin property. It had been sold from the McMartin family of the defense attorney to a private contractor who's gonna build an office on there. Thank you. Thanks a lot. Speaker 4: I see some water back here. Speaker 1: And I signed a contract, assumed liability, and took a professional archaeologist in Doctor Gary Stickel. We spent 34 days, 24 hours a day on that property. We guarded it. Of course, we didn't want Anybody coming in and contaminating the evidence. And we found tunnels under the school. The authorities claimed they looked for tunnels. They couldn't find them. We found them. As far as I'm concerned, the children were telling the truth. But as an outgrowth of this investigation, the McMartin family admitted to one of the mothers, think it was Virginia McMartin, that she'd been all over the world setting up preschools, because they were experts in this particular field. And Roland Summitt, a prominent psychiatrist at UCLA, has made the statement in his research that there are at least 50 Such schools across the country, preschools where the children claim they were taken down into tunnels under the school. Now in discussing the youth, I'd like to talk a little bit about the finders case. I was able to gain access to an official Department of Treasury investigation customs investigation. And I have it in front of me right now. And in 1987, the Tallahassee Florida Police Department received a call, anonymous call, from a lady who said that there were 2 strange looking men with 6 children in the park. They went out and they went out and checked the the children out and saw the men. The men were well dressed. The children were rather simply dressed. The children did not not know how to use the toilet facilities or the telephone. The police arrested them. As a result of information in the van, found the computer disks and so forth. The police, sent the information to the Metropolitan Police Department in Washington DC. The Metropolitan Police with search warrants went out and checked the, location where the children were kept in the warehouse where some of the activities supposedly took place. They found computer discs and they found evidence of satanic cult activities and ceremonies. They found pornographic material. They found and documented that this finder's case involved the purchasing of children, trading of children and kidnapping children all over the world. Locations which were observed, and were contacted in connection with this international child ring, which also included information about terrorist activity and secret bank accounts. London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, Costa Rica, and Europe. The, customs agent, very diligent and very conscientious in in his efforts to find out what the problem was and get to the bottom of this, contacted the Metropolitan Police Department at the location where this search took place. And I'm looking right now at his final and closing memo, And I'm gonna quote it. He went there to talk to them, the Metropolitan Police. I was advised that all the passport data had been turned over to the State their investigation, there were some passports that were found not only in the warehouse, but also in the van. The state This included travel to Moscow, North Korea, North Vietnam from the late 19 fifties to the mid 19 seventies. Weren't we at war with those people in that period of time? Yes, we were. The individual further advised me of circumstances which indicated that the investigation into the activity of the finders had become a quote CIA internal matter, end quote. The Metropolitan Police Department report has been secret and was not available for review. I was advised that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior, and that FBI foreign counterintelligence division, That's headquarters. Had directed the Metropolitan Police Department not to advise the FBI Washington field office of anything that had transpired. No further information will be available. No further action will be taken. By the way, the founder of the finders in my research aside from this memo, is a CIA agent. You've heard of outcome based education, I think, haven't you? That's another device that's being used to further deteriorate and destroy the, mental capabilities of our children. There's a program called Vistadome single single signal. It's operated about 6 cycles away from the harmonic of the nation's power lines, and specifically phase modulated to the exact frequency of all U. S. TV networks, this powerful and sinister mind control and behavioral modification signal is being to override all television programming 24 hours per day. And in subliminal fashion, bypassing the occasion con the conscious mind into the TV viewers living room. This is all coordinated by National Bureau of Standards in Boulder, Colorado. For complete details of what the video drone signal ultimately does to those people most sensitive Tourette's, see the movie, Vita Vita VitaDrome, I guess it is. Videodrome. It's x. This is in hand this is in long run writing. It's based on science fact, not science fiction. Have any of you seen that movie? You probably heard about this before then, Here's an article about, during the last 18 months, the government's been storing 100 tons of grain and other food stuffs and some 50 secondret underground facilities around the country. There are certain grain storage areas that are empty on regular basis to the extent that there's hardly any grain available to the general public. Chips in the brain, this is a CIA operation. I have the documentation on it here. Project Gray Van, which is a super secret plan initiated by President Bush in 1991 to forcibly eliminate all Americans and other individuals who have been determined to be active opponents of the New World Order. Military personnel highly trained in quick combat techniques, such as SWAT team tactics, will be, sanctioned To enter into a town or city and using computer listings, locate those who are classified as dissidents to the new world order. And and there he is back there in the corner. Right? I didn't think he'd bring a uniform tonight. And exterminate those people quickly and be gone within an hour or so. Are you familiar with, I I I see Cybernetic, orgasms organisms, I should say. I better everybody should go out and buy 1, I'd sure. How about using organisms? I get it right. Okay. A human being who has part machined and fully automated as created secretly by NASA for deep space missions. I have a documentation on that also. And a number of other CIA programs. How are we doing on the time? Oh, I've got to, we got an hour and 15, because I got 15 minutes for questions. Hour and 50? 15. 15? Okay. Okay. And then 15. Okay. The anti terrorism legislation, I've said it publicly many many times. This will create a situation that will deteriorate and destroy our constitution rights of civil liberties. Let's go back to the, initial writing of the bill. It was done under the Bush administration, set on the shelf. It didn't pass. The one of the authors, of the bill made the statement people have to be killed before this will be passed. We had the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, October 28, 1993, New York Times and LA Times. An operative, this is documented in this article, an FBI operative in talking to his FBI handler made the statements And documented the fact that the FBI knew about the bombing that was to take place and did not prevent it from happening. I don't know about the rest of you, but in When I was in the FBI, our ultimate goal in a case of that type was to protect the victims at all costs. We did not would never have allowed anything like that to happen, a bombing to have occurred. And then, there were 6 people killed, a half $1,000,000 in damage. 1,000 individuals were injured. And the terrorism anti terrorism bill did not pass. So along came April 19, 1995 and, There were it is alleged that McVeigh and Nichols were involved in the bombing of the Oklahoma City building. I contended right from the beginning That that was an incident created by this evil element, criminal element within our government in order to pass the hasten the passage of the anti terror legislation. I'm sure you're all familiar with the latest, developments, search without search warrant. The president labeled the groups as terrorists, illegal taps, or illegal as long as the police felt that they were acting in good faith. Firearms sold today, using a A robbery or, a situation later on, 5 years, 6 years not gonna result in the person who originally owned the firearms and going to jail, seizure of assets, Secret evidence, would not necessarily face your chooser in certain circumstances, and so forth. And you're familiar, I'm sure, since you are a well educated group with the, Survey that was taken at the Marine Corps, 29 Palms. 1 out of 4 GIs said they would shoot their fellow Americans if they did not give up their firearms. Are you aware there's a bill in congress for United Nations tax, right today? Before Bush signed left office, he signed a treaty that would allow us to send our troops to overseas, in the event of insurrection overseas, and foreign troops to come into the United States in the event of insurrections. And I have in front of me a Department of Army memo dated 29 August 1994. Army draft regulations on civilian inmate labor program. Enclosed, for your review and comment, is the draft army regulation on civilian inmate labor utilization and establishing prison camps on Army installations. The draft regulation is the compilation of all policy, message: Civilian Inmate Labor Oversight Committee policy decisions and lessons learned today. The new regulations will provide the following, and it goes on And it gives a number of points. Let's see. We're in California. We're gonna have Ukrainian troops. Are any Ukrainians in the room? I hope you know how to speak to Ukraine. Ukrainian hall here. Ukrainian hall. Okay. Good. Now I don't know about you. I'm sure that you've seen from reading spotlight and so forth that there have been allegations, thousands of UN troops in the United States. I was hesitant to accept that without personal knowledge. I talked to an individual who went out with the 3 other men. They heard that there were some troops down in Arizona. They went out and they claimed they found them and they saw them and there were thousands of foreign troops here. You're are you familiar with the executive orders that are in place today? Take over all communications, medians, petroleum, gas, minerals, Transportation, control highways, government sup education, etcetera etcetera. Virtually a banking system, virtually take over the country. You're familiar with the Federal Execution Center in Terre Haute, Indiana. Brand new. It houses like 30 inmates. We haven't had, federal execution since 1963. You're familiar, I'm sure, with the, many prison new prisons that are being built around the country. In Texas alone, they're building 36 new prisons. Janet Reno wants a national hit team that could operate any place in the United States, which will include civilian and military personnel, in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. And, basically that's that's about what I have to say except for let me mention this. I announced my candidacy as I said in late November. And, as a result of that, within 4 days, a fellow investigator from Washington D. C. Contacted one of my ex girlfriends. I've been single for 22 years. I'm not playing around on any wives or anything. Contact one of my ex girlfriends and interviewed her. The fellow's name is John Alexander. I made a call to Washington DC. John Alexander is, A close associate of the White House administration. I can definitely prove that, my telephones are tapped. I had a friend from L. A. Who called me using a one alias. He'd never used the alias before. Within 2 weeks after He went he made the call. He his wife received the call. He wanted to know if that person by that name lived in that house. Ballot access. I was not, given ballot access in Oregon or in Tennessee. And I was told I was not a viable candidate, and then we asked what's a viable candidate. And we were told that a viable candidate is determined by the national media. In Colorado in Colorado, we sent the money in. There was $500 fee, Application money met the deadline. And, about 2 days before the ballots were printed, we received a notice that, they would not place my name on the ballot because I was not a viable candidate again. And they kept the $500, I might add. About 2 months ago, 2 CIA agents came into town. I learned through my sources. Because there's quote some guy in Las Vegas running against Bill Clinton. He can do him a lot of harm, end quote. I had a potential business investor. And if this had gone through, I'd had, quite a bit of money in order to finance my campaign. It'd been my personal money by the way. And, this investor was visited by, 2 secret service agents. On February 9th, I contacted WMUR ABC TV Manchester Channel 9. Talked to Julie Campesino. We intended to, if this money had come through, put the, Clinton Chronicles on, that channel. On a 2 hour basis, I was, I'd given it, a 13 minute introduction and about a 4 minute closing which made it 2 hours. We were told that the price was $20,000 for 2 hours. We called them back on February 12th, that was Friday. We talked to them the 1st time. That's the 2nd time was a Monday. The price was then $120,000. The Nevada caucus. Nevada is a caucus state. We call the, the Democratic headquarters in Nevada. We asked them when would the caucus meeting be We wanted to send our representative there. We want Gunderson on the ballot in Nevada. They wouldn't tell us. We had to call the national headquarters in Washington, DC, And Wednesday before 2 Sundays ago, we learned that the caucus meeting was going to be a certain place, certain time the following Sunday, 4 days later. We attended. Some of our people attended. I was in Texas campaigning. And, there were, Several, applications to be placed on the ballot in addition to Bill Clinton. And the speaker, did accepted him but didn't, do anything with them. And the only the only, name on the ballot in Nevada will be Bill Clinton. There were 3 speeches. And, that was it. There was no there was no voting. The, by the way, I met with the head of the the, Nevada Democratic party. I thought that protocol, it would be nice to meet her and say hello to her. And I walked in and she looked at me, she says, oh, you're the candidate. Looked I thought I had something on my tie. And I said yes. And, so we sat down and started talking. And, she said, why did you decide to run for president? And I said, well, I was in the FBI when it was a real organization. Wait a minute, she said. G. Edgar Hoover was gay. I said, no, he wasn't. And so I argued with her about that, and then in the end she said, well, you have your opinion, I have mine. Then I went on to explain why I was running. And then later on I said, well do you have any advice? She said, yes, go get another job. And then later on I said, can I expect any support from the Democratic Party? She said no. I was, scheduled for a, a forum with other presidential candidates in New Hampshire on on February 16th. It was on a Friday. Something told me the Thursday morning before I jumped on the plane that I should probably call. And I did. And I found out I It had been dropped from the schedule without being notified. 1 of my campaign workers went to Florida to hook up with Terry Reed. I talked to Terry about, giving his lecture up in New Hampshire. If my money had come through, I was going to use Terry, very frankly, and I'm not ashamed of it to camp to not campaign for me, but just had gotten lecture about drugs and Clinton's involvement in drugs. One of my campaign workers went to Florida to meet with some of Terry Reid's people and he was beaten up and left for dead. I've had surveillances on me. My mail has been open. And, I've been cut off a number of radio shows, For no apparent reason. But anyway, I feel like, I think of course we all know that has it been announced officially that Clinton candidacy. Well, it the Democratic headquarters told us that he did. So just last week, I decided I think it's time for me to change parties again. So I went over and I reregistered, and I'm a candidate for the Independent American Party, which is a taxpayers party. And I tell you, I I don't know if you see my platform, but It's identical with the with the independent American party platform. It's identical. I think I don't think there's much on there that you don't have, that I don't have, that's who you are out there. So I I think it's fair, and I'm gonna help them register as many people as I can. Probably be going to Arizona in another week or 10 days to help down there. It's important that we establish candidates at all levels, state, county, and, the precincts and the districts. So, now before in closing, I'd like to mention, I ran across this book, and it's it's a dynamite book. I didn't author it. I've written, the book How to Locate Anyone Anywhere Without Leaving Home. And, I had an opportunity to talk to, Galen Ross senior, when I went through, San Marcos, Texas. And he has a brand new book that's called Who's Who of the Elite. And identifies the members of the Bilderbergs, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commissions, Skull and Bone Society, and the Committee of 300. And it's a little expensive. It sells for $30. But I'm telling you, I think it's worth it. And what I think you should do when if you have the $30, is buy this book and sit down when you watch television. Look up these names alphabetically, and I think you'll be surprised to learn How many of these people are in positions of authority and influence? Anyway, that's my time. Thank you very much. You might hold it up? Yeah. This is this is available by the way through our office. We also have a number of other books that are available. Corruption, satanical drug network, The mystery of the craft of the hoax. How to locate anyone anywhere without leaving home. Patty helped type on that. I think Patty, didn't you? And by the way, it's great to see some of my old friends out here. Thank you very much for coming. Is that it? Thanks a lot. Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. We're gonna Speaker 0: do the questions now, Ralph. Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Anybody who Speaker 0: has a question, Ralph will try to get the microphone to you or go back and see Ralph right now because we want to get it recorded so we can Speaker 5: Thank you, Mr. Gunderson, for coming tonight. It was very interesting. You said that you had, Proof of tunnels at the McMartin School. Do you have photographs or videotapes? Speaker 1: Yes. We, we have photographs, And we have a preliminary report back there, don't we? Raven? Ray? Do we have the McMartin preliminary report back there? Do we have the McMartin preliminary report back there? We don't have. We've got it in our office. And we have the scientific report which is about 186 pages long. Yes, we do have them. We have photographs. There were a lot of pictures taken by the TV people, by the way, And those would be available if you want to request them. Speaker 6: Sometime in about the last 12 months, there was a, On public TV, it's showing a thing. It's called Jihad America. Is this any truth to this or is this just a drummed up thing? Speaker 1: You have to enlighten me as to what Jihad America is. Speaker 6: Jihad America was a extremist Islamic groups that's trained in martial arts and trained As to how to use weaponry of all kinds? Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. I'm sorry. Speaker 6: Supposedly, some undercover agents of the FBI or the CIA went in and gathered this evidence. It was on public TV within the last 16 months. Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't know anything about that. Speaker 0: Excuse me 1 minute. We're taking up a collection for Ted for his campaign. Rich has got a bucket back here. He'll be passing it around. So we'd like everybody to donate to his campaign. Speaker 1: Hey, thanks a lot. Well, that's great. Yeah. That'll pay a few telephone bills, I hope. Speaker 7: Yes. Every time that there's a, proposed, piece of gun gun legislation, you'll have an incident where somebody will kill a bunch of people. And, all of a sudden they'll point and say, this is the reason we need to have this gun legislation. But every time they investigate these incidents, They find invariably, the person that perpetrated the, killings was on Prozac or some kind of a psychoactive drug. Do you have any information on that? Or could you enlighten Speaker 1: us about that? Yes, I can. I have paper about 3 inches thick of all the various CIA programs. And one of them includes, mind control And people that are trained to go out and create these incidents and hasten the passage of anti gun legislation. Speaker 8: Yes, sir. Are you familiar with this FBI criminal espionage investigation of the CFR? Speaker 1: Yes, I am. Speaker 8: Being foiled. Okay. Speaker 1: Yes, I am. Are you selling that back there? Speaker 8: Oh, no. I I just, this is part of the collection. I just wondered if you had You're Speaker 1: familiar with that? Not familiar with that. Mhmm. Yes. Yeah. And one of my old buddies in high school was, is a member of the CFR, by the way. He quit speaking to me the last time I ran into him back at the hometown. Yes, Peter? Yes. Okay. That's a good idea. My phone number in Las Vegas is 702-262 6410. 702-262-6410. Do we have any literature back there, Ray Duran, Of, with our phone number on it? We do? Okay. If you on the way out the door, you can grab that litter. You can get all our books. Yes. We have, what we have is, how to locate anyone anywhere. The mystery of the crafted hoax, which is a Nebraska case. The plan by Paul Fisher was a candidate in 1960 against, Jack Kennedy. The finder's report, the official customs report which I read today, and the Oklahoma City bombing report, total package is $50 plus mailings $5.55. We have a 3 volume set, captioned Corruption satanical drug network. It's, a total of $55, which kind of encompasses a lot of the material that I gave you here tonight, but documents it. We have the Clinton Chronicles, which sells for $30 with mailing and handling to be $35. And we have a new video out, and, I encourage you to buy it. It's called the Gunnison Chronicles. And it's also a $35 for handling. And we have Suzanne Harris. Is Suzanne here, Peter? Suzanne Harris, very prominent attorney from law the law loft. I'm interviewing her for 30 minutes. I'm interviewing and we're talking about legislation and treaties, that have been passed and handed on down and looking toward the goals of the new order. Also to, a gentleman who talks about executive orders. And by the way, executive orders are unconstitutional, totally unconstitutional. They were originally designed In order to pass directive orders down to department heads, not down to the public or not to the people. And the other lady is, Karen Bickman, who talks about the big federal land grabs? And these are all available. And then this elite book sells for $30. Yes? Speaker 9: Ted, you faxed to me a step by step plan to return to constitutional government. Well, I went out and made copies of that. So if anybody's interested In having mister Gunderson's plan to, return to constitutional government, here's a step by step on how to with information number and fax number at the bottom of the sheet. And I made plenty of these copies at the back of the room. And I wanna make a personal comment here. At great personal sacrifice, Ted has been traveling around the country and it's not been easy for him. Now irregardless of realistically whether he wins this Presidency or not, he is performing an invaluable service to us patriots, educating the people. Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you. Hey, I realize it's a long shot. I realize it's a real long shot. But, and If we could get a good man up there, I'm gonna keep running by the way. I'm gonna run right up right up to the end. I hope that means the campaign by the way. I'm gonna run right up to the end, but if somebody as a constitutional steps forward, and I think he's better than I am or Throwing these things down our throat and destroying our whole civilization. By the way, I have something on my platform nobody else does. And that is to get rid of the Federal Reserve System. And and furthermore, get rid of the IRS, get rid of the Department of And I have a tax, but you've heard of the flat tax, the square tax, the rectangular tax, right? Well, I got the best of all, believe me. Yeah. Let me just tell you about my tax plan. It's dynamite. And it'll cure our problems. What you do is you eliminate all income tax for everybody. Yeah. Now what happens there is the middle income and lower income, bracket people Spend what? Let's face it. We all spend what? A 100% of what we earn, right? So by eliminating your income tax, you automatically have a 20% to 40% raise. That puts $2,000,000,000 a day into circulation. With $2,000,000,000 a day going into circulation, it's calculated to have 20,000,000 new jobs. You'd have prosperity in this country like you never had before. You'd have jobs for the homeless. You'd have jobs for people on welfare. You'd have new jobs for labor. Okay. So how do you finance the government? Of course we have tariffs and commerce, as the constitution allows, but also what I propose is that you have a $200,000 deductible. We're gonna let the rich pay, okay? And any and you and you tax the assets above 200,000. Like 3 and a third of 60,000,000,000,000 would be $2,000,000,000,000 in income per year. Well, the risk shouldn't have complained because after all, with 2,000,000,000 a day going into circulation, their assets are automatically gonna go up. So they're gonna be making more money, their assets are gonna be greater, so they shouldn't be upset at all about that. Okay, anyway, I didn't did I tell you how it came out? And I talked earlier. Let me just mention how it came out in New Hampshire. I came on 12th out of 21. I think I did I mention that? Did I mention Texas were, I didn't? Okay. In Texas, went down and campaigned almost 3 weeks. I was by myself. I attended as many democratic, rallies as they would allow me to get into the well, they'd allow me in the building. And, they, I was there was another lady that helped me. We spent less than $2,500, had no advertising, we were mainly on the radio talk shows, and we came away with, between 30,035,000 votes. And, that's, it's not a final figure. That's projected figure based on 28% of the precincts that reported. So we have to be very pleased. I'm pleased with that. It means that there's 30,000 or 35,000 people out there listening to me, and I was saying To those people the same as I talked to on Peter's show, and thanks Peter for making your show available to all of us in our cause and so forth. This man deserves a round of applause. And by the way, he's he's married to a lady whose maiden name was Gunderson. Yeah. There she is. There she is, Miss America. Okay. Anyway, I think we did pretty well Texas. I'm I'm I'm pleased. I'm just sorry I couldn't get on more ballots. Yes, another question. Speaker 4: Yes, sir. You mentioned the Franklin cover up in 1989. Yes? Speaker 6: Could you tell me Speaker 4: how to obtain documentation of Bush's attendance of one of those? How we obtained it? Yeah. Sir His his the documentation that he attended. Speaker 1: Yes. The documentation is from, several of the children who attended the parties. And, I personally have, a sign a sign a videotape from a kid who saw him at one of those parties. This is in the book by the way, in Frank, the cover up book. You know, I was on a radio show in Las Vegas, not too long, and I named these names, Harold Anderson, Bob Watt, Mondetta, and so on and so forth. And right after the show, some guy some fellow called the station and said he wanted a copy of that tape. Well, I know what he was doing. He was gonna planning on having me sued for naming these people. And I know that, of course, his research indicated they'd already been named. And By the way, John Franklin challenged these people. He couldn't give anybody to write it to, to publish his book, The Franklin Cover Up. He she said, I beg you to sue me. He said to him publicly, they wouldn't sue him. And of course, they didn't wanna sue him because all this information would be made public then. Right. Yes, question. Speaker 10: Hi. Yes. I've heard a rumor for the past 10 years. And this time the source was a man by the name of John Lear who Claims that. The attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan in 'eighty one was orchestrated by the same people who did Kennedy through You know anything about that? Speaker 1: I don't have any documentation, but I've heard similar stories. And for years, I went along with the Warren Commission report on the Kennedy assassination until I saw where Doctor. Cyrille Speck not Cyrille Speck, Wecht, Cyril Cyril Wecht out of Pittsburgh, said that, who was part of the autopsy I believe, Said that there was more than 1 gunman. And I know Cyril Wecht, in fact I've had him work on 2 of my homicide cases that I've worked in the past. He's probably one of the most renowned pathologists in the country, and I'll take his word for it against the Warren Commission any day. And And yet I went along with I went along with the party line all those years, and I must have blinders on, but of course I was being fed the propaganda that you're given. But the FBI can understand, we had 164 categories which we were responsible for, and if information came to our attention within those 164 categories, we investigated. If it didn't, we put it in what we call the 0 file. So I don't blame the FBI agents per se. It was only after I became involved in the McDonald case and another number of other cases, Martin case, and the Victor Glustion bombing in the Marina del Rey, a bomb under the front seat in the gas tank, Two bombs, the FBI, ATF and the Sheriff's Office all said it was suicide and $2,000,000 of insurance we were brought in, our firm was brought in. We stepped up a homicide without any doubt. 6 out of 7 insurance companies paid. We went to trial for the 7th Old Republic of Chicago, And we won in a in a trial. They said the judge ruled in our favor that he was murdered. There was not not suicide. Another people another they I call it suicided. Right? But anyway, that's another story. But then more recently, the Oklahoma City bombing, There's no question in my mind, that John Doe 2 is an agent of and or an agent an agent on and or an informant or an operative for the federal government. Yes, question. Speaker 11: Ted, you mentioned earlier Project Gray Van. Can you just give us a few more details on that? Speaker 1: That's the assassination? Speaker 11: On Project Gray Van, specifically. Yeah. Speaker 1: I'll read what I have here. I don't think I read it all. These are longhand notes. That's why I Messed up on whatever. I won't say it again. I'll read the I'll read the whole memo. Some of these memos, I didn't read completely. I just skimmed them. If I can find it. Project Gray Van is a super secret plan initiated by President Bush in 1991 to forcibly eliminate all Americans and other individuals who have been determined to be active opponents of the New World Order. Military personnel highly trained in quick combat techniques such as SWAT team tactics, will be sanctioned to enter into a town or city, and and to exterminate these people quickly, and be gone within an hour or so, moving from city to city in such a manner as to not leave much trace for local authorities to follow. The plan is to claim these people eliminated were involved in drug dealings, and that it was merely part of a drug war, and to keep the information out of the news media. That's all I have on it. Now let me just mention one other thing. I met with a CIA agent not too long ago, and, we were in a restaurant, And, he was filling me in on some information, giving me details about CIA activity. And, he started crying. And, he told me that for years he thought he was solving a problem, and all of a sudden he woke up he realized he was a problem. And he said that of all the horrible things that he's done, and I know he's killed people, He said it's really starting to bother him. He said he has splitting headaches constantly. He can't sleep at night. And, he's really I don't know what's gonna happen to him. I told him he had to go see a psychiatrist. But There's 2 groups in the CIA. There's the good old boys who realize that the orders they were given We're not of humanitarian and in the best interest of those of us who we consider ourselves Christians. And then there's a new kid on the block. And the old timers are working diligently and are in competition with the new kid on the block. And these are the young guys out of college and so forth, who are doing all the professional assassinations and the killings today. And there were 2 ex well, there once I think CIA is like mafia, once you're in, you're in. And you never identified, but, 2 of them have told me that we're the biggest terrorists in the world and the biggest drug dealers in the world. Yes, question. Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for coming. I have a comment on a question. By way of personal A couple of years ago, I did attend an American independent party, convocation for purpose of, It was more like a business meeting. And there was definitely proskinhead white supremacist literature on the table for distribution and pick up. So I want want you to be cautioned to keep your eyes open for that kind of stuff. You don't want that mud slinging on yourself. Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: They've called me other things already, so it didn't matter. Put out the put out the word I'm a homosexual. Speaker 2: Yeah. You need to distance you need to distance yourself from that kind of stuff. Okay. Secondly, question. Do you take Michael to be credible? Speaker 1: Absolutely. Speaker 2: Spotlight last year printed a story that, where he was quoted through you as saying that was my bomb. Do you take that as a true story? Speaker 1: Absolutely. Meaning that he developed that bomb. Speaker 2: Okay. So you stand by that? Speaker 1: Yes. I've been Speaker 2: You also believe that he was on the October surprise flight and also that he was Speaker 1: Let me answer that first question. Let's come back to those last 2 questions. Speaker 3: Okay. Speaker 1: We know it was, we know the bomb. We have the contract number. It's manufactured by Dyna Nobel in Salt Lake City. We have, written a letter to the Department of the Army asking for details based on the contract number. We've not received a response. I just can't understand Yes, there's no question about that, in my opinion. And what was the other question? Well I don't know about the October surprise flights, but I know he's part of the Insula problem. I have personal knowledge of that and I have the affidavits and I've talked to Bill Hamilton. You're you're familiar with the NSLAW, the $10,000,000 Heist of the, computer system, Bill Hamilton, PROMISE Software. Yes, ma'am. Speaker 12: I have a question which really has 2 parts. Do you know anything about the Delta Force or the 5th column group and their plan to restore us to the gold standard? Also in connection in connection with that, there was an article that, appeared in the, Speaker 13: been to a county paper just Speaker 12: this week. And I understand it's creeping out all over the nation, where, group claims Texas independence, The restoration to the independent nation status, and many states have, declared that and have, The paperwork and everything in process to reclaim independent status. Would you comment about those Speaker 1: 2 things? The first question was on Speaker 13: the Speaker 1: 5th column, yes, Delta Group, yes, 5th column. I'm sure you're familiar that the 5th column is computer wizards who have gotten into the bank accounts in Switzerland, and, they're supposedly handing, copies of the bank accounts back to the congressmen, senators, the politicians saying, Resign or be exposed. I have I don't know exactly which senators and congressmen have been identified, But I have confirmed that through my CIA contacts, that those men do exist. And as a matter of fact, I have not a direct contact with them, but I'm 1 layer away from them. So I do have that confirmed that Jim Nichols or, Jim Norman is telling the truth. I don't know anything about the gold standards. I know that, I would have to say that these men are Patriotic Americans. This these are probably the good old boys. There's supposed to be 3, 3 of them active, 1 of them is injured, 1 of them died. The independent nation status. Last several days ago, over the weekend, I think it was. 18th? 2,000 people marched on the state capitol and demanded that Bush vacate his office in Austin, Texas. And, and another 2,000 joined them and went on over to IRS and told IRS to get out of the state of Speaker 0: Okay. We collected $173 here for Ted's campaign. And we want to thank him for coming here tonight and answering all the questions and telling us all of these things. Let's give him a round of Plot. Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. But I'm gonna Thanks a lot. You've seen this, and you've seen this, and what are the others that they do? I forget. But if Bill Clinton goes like this every once in a while, Well, mine is this. Right? Thank god we're all free. Let's hope we can stay that way. Speaker 3: Ted? Ted? Yes? We've completed the audio, but we got some more questions. So you want to hang on to Sure. Speaker 1: I'll stay all night. It doesn't matter. I'm just driving back to Las Vegas. I got gas money. Speaker 8: Mister Gunderson, Since you were with the FBI, I've just, wanna know if, there were some, underground, naval bases In the East and West Coast, if you know anything about them and maybe in the island of New Georgia. Speaker 1: I've heard about them. I don't know anything about them. I understand that we have an oil reserve in Bakersfield. There's a lot of controversy up there that the government is selling it off and That's all reserved for the naval fleet. You know, anybody know anything about that? You heard that? The dome or something? Yeah. I don't know anything about I'm sorry I don't know anything about the underground naval. Sorry about that. Speaker 3: Dad, I have a question. I met with a producer not too long ago who was asked to view an 8 millimeter video Tape which was shot of the Murray building in Oklahoma about halfway up. And she was Asked why some army personnel do verify, was the tape tampered, altered, anything? What it basically showed was a helicopter landing on the Murray building. Several, I think she said five People, dressed in jump or fatigue clothes getting out of the helicopter, disappearing. She saw only From the waist up because of the parapet wall at the top. They disappeared. And if I'm not mistaken, they were gone for 6 minutes. They came back, got into the helicopter. Helicopter took off, and I think it was 3 minutes later, the building implodes. And I'm wondering if you've heard anything. She asked, can I have A copy of the tape and the personnel said, do you love wanna live? And she said yes. And he said forget it. Anyway, Have you heard of such a tape, anything like this? Speaker 1: No. I have not. I'm sorry. I haven't heard about it. I'd like to get my hands on it, though. Speaker 4: Yeah, I would just like to comment, in this paper that's at the back of the table, the Reality Press, we have a pretty good coverage of the Texas Republic and next month, which will be out 4th, we're updating. There were 3 indictments served, 1 on the IRS, 1 on the de facto state, and 1 on George Bush. Speaker 11: So these are free. They're in the back of the room. Speaker 4: Ted, I'd like to get this on record. Speaker 1: Senator Dole Your name, sir? Go ahead. Speaker 4: Senator Dull, ran for vice president with, Gerald Ford in 1976. He replaced, Rockefeller when Rockefeller went off. According to a mutual friend, Kathy O'Brien, and she was part of when she was part of the MK Ultra Project Monarch program used as a sex slave, did not in fact, to the best of your knowledge, Senator Dull's running mate, Gerald Ford, forced her to have oral copulation or perform oral copulation upon him when she was a mere child. Kathy O'Brien? Speaker 1: Yes. Well, she said every living present Jimmy Carter had sex with her. Speaker 4: Yeah. So there's no question about that. That's what she told me. Now, there has been rumors that Gerald Ford was a practicing Satanist. And And you have heard about that? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 4: Do you think that there's anything to back that up? Speaker 1: I don't have any documentation on it, only what I've been told or whatever. Speaker 4: And then She stated that, while in the company of the Clintons That not her, but her husband had an affair with Bill Clinton. Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yes, she mentioned that. Speaker 4: She said that. Anal intercourse or something of that nature or oral copulation. Speaker 1: That's what I understand. Speaker 4: And still one other thing, that Hillary Clinton, Was interested in her the shape of her vagina or there is some mutilation. And I know this all sounds rather bizarre, but this is a very bizarre and very true story. And that, Hillary Clinton Wanted to take her on and did, is that correct? Speaker 1: That's what she says. By the way, I have the book here. Speaker 4: Is To the best of your knowledge is Hillary Clinton AC and DC? Speaker 1: Well, just what Kathy has told me. Speaker 4: Yes. Do you have, any other I don't Speaker 1: have any personal experience here. Speaker 4: Yeah. We've had private conversations, and you Stated that there might be other women who would testify Speaker 1: to that. There are to my knowledge, I've been told there are 5 Presidential models, that's what they call them. These are very pretty attractive ladies who are from birth trained To be sex slaves to presidents and top dignitaries in the government. And there are 5 of them living today. I have personally met with 2 of them. Speaker 4: And they would testify to having affairs with the First Lady? Would probably like to be the first man. Speaker 1: The, of course, Kathy will the other one is in hiding. Mhmm. And the other 3, I've not talked to them. I think maybe someday I will. I'm Speaker 4: not Do you fear if this story is not revealed that, Kathy's life might not be A Speaker 1: long one. That's right. And and the women who the 3 ladies who are in hiding, fear for their life, they've not come forward and I don't know that they ever will. The other lady who is, giving me a statement, video, and, also a signed statement, Is she's not advertising, but you know, she's I've talked to her. Speaker 4: Did Kathy not in fact state that her 4 year old child Was first molested by, a pedophile president named George Bush. Speaker 1: That's right. Okay. Thank you. You have pretty good memory, Anthony. Speaker 4: I'm keeping a close tab on our Reichstag 90 And it seems to be doing very well in exposing the bad guys. And as a consequence, we had a delay in the anti Bill of Rights Bill. And we have to do something about that right now. And I think Peter, wherever Peter is, and Suzanne Harris Has been on top of this particular left installation. We have to put the kibosh to it right now, and you're invited again on my show. Speaker 1: Good, thank you. Speaker 4: Maybe tomorrow night. Speaker 1: All right, good. Thank you, Anthony. I'm sure everybody knows who Anthony is, and Peter. Peter and Suzanne Harris are great Americans. They've done a fabulous job at the law loft Researching and so forth. Yes, sir? Speaker 5: Another one of our biggest problems in this country is the fact that we have a corrupt judiciary system. We have a justice department who will only stand up for the government and is not interested in justice for the people, Only in keeping the government out of trouble. We have judges that can't be sanctioned, in any way. This is not constitutional, but they seem to have been able to make up their own code to keep themselves from Being prosecuted. I'd like to have your feelings on this. Speaker 1: Yes. I've seen it time and time again In the last 16 years, first with the Jeffrey McDonald case, Judge Dupree, there were 24 motions entered by the, defense, And all but 1 were denied. And there were 8 entered by the prosecution, and all were accepted by the judge. Evidence was destroyed. Evidence was altered. I have a summary of the case. I think if you have never read it, I'd suggest that you call my office and we'll get a copy to you That just documents corruption right from the beginning. And that judge, no question about it, was very partial and prejudice against doctor McDonald. That was an army drug cover up. There's no question about it. I've seen it also on a number of occasions cases that I've worked where you have, child custody cases. And the, A perpetrator or the one who molests the kid, oftentimes is giving the child over the straight and honest parent, even though it's proven that the honest payer is the one who should have the kid. Yes. Speaker 5: It Seems to me that if we don't get the judiciary straightened out, we'll never be able to bring any of the government officials, under any scrutiny And get any problem solved in this country, as they'll just keep on going and covering it up, and it goes on and on infinitum. That's right. Speaker 13: Some years back in research, there was indication from my research At the entrance into the underground cities is through the petroleum, buildings in each city. Do you know anything about that? Speaker 1: No. I don't. I'm sorry. Speaker 13: At that time, I believe that they and I'm I'm not I don't have this positively verified. I believe that they have a card, a certain card, and that will admit them into the underground cities. Speaker 1: They have, the CIA has a device with the government. I don't know or Speaker 9: not. Okay. Speaker 1: They can go through solid rock at the rate of 5 miles an hour and build a big tunnel. Speaker 13: Well, the Speaker 1: Huge tunnel and take a train through it. Yeah. Speaker 13: The, genealogy, if you want interested in the genealogy of George Bush and all the people involved, goes right back through to the Same people involved with assassination of all our presidents. Bush, Clinton I mean, Lincoln's stepmother was Sarah Bush Johnston of the bank Bush banking family at the time. Speaker 8: In response to Anthony's questions whether Hillary is AC or DC, I can assure him that she is. I have inside on that. She was caught dead in the act in the White House. My second, question for you It's on doctor Jeffrey McDonald. What is the status on him now? Speaker 1: Jeffrey McDonald? Yes. Doctor McDonald is still serving 3 consecutive life He's lost, 3 or 4 appeals. I forget there's so many. I can't I forget. The attorneys supposedly claimed that they're working on another appeal now, and that's it. We're trying we're in the process of, did if any of you ever read the fatal justice, not fatal vision, but fatal justice. It's a book out by Jerry Potter. It tells the true story of the McDonald case. And there's a movie that's, being produced on that. Speaker 8: I hadn't read the fatal justice, but I have read the fatal vision, which was kind of a slanted level. Speaker 1: But fatal vision was fiction. Speaker 8: That's right. Speaker 1: They only mentioned my name in there three times. Fatal Justice mentioned it throughout the books. Go by Fatal Justice. Speaker 8: Are you aware that he was kept in solitary confinement several years? Speaker 1: Yeah. And what, sir? Speaker 8: He was kept in solitary confinement for Speaker 13: several years. Speaker 1: Oh, yes. Yes. I don't Speaker 13: know if Speaker 8: he still is or Speaker 1: No. He's not, but he was. And there was attempt on his life in jail too. Speaker 11: Those folks, the few of you that might know who I am, I'm reasonably selective in my Friends at this point in time, for those of you that know why. Okay. I consider Ted Ted and I are are very good friends. If I made a list Of 15 or 20 people out of all the people in the United States of America, okay, that are really out there, that have a big Pair of eyes, like he does, to step forward to be able to do this. That's the wrong part of the anatomy. Ted would be really top, Maybe in the top 10 out of all the people that are out here trying to kick tail on these bad guys. And I want you guys to realize something. I mean, some of You know, we're all crazy, the guys that are out in front anyhow. Obviously, we're all mental recharge or something. There's something wrong with this. But you have to understand, it takes a lot of guts to have all the I mean, that he has had in the FBI and to come forward, you know, and do his numbers like he does. So I hope you really appreciate it. And I respected, At a real high level compared because we got a lot of jerks out here and Ted is not one of them. Speaker 1: Thanks, Bob. Bob, Bob deserves a lot of respect too. You might just very briefly tell him about the attempt to kill you. Speaker 11: About which no. We've already done that. They know it. The bulk of these characters already know, I think the I really appreciate it. It's I won't go into the whole thing again, but next time I'm talking, Speaking here. Most of these are all friends, Ted. So I guess they're filled in. Listen, on the Rakanosuito thing, this gentleman asked about Rakanosuito and his veracity and whether he's straight up or down or not. Many years ago, 1988, I was directly involved with the Insulin investigations And, the ReconnoSue was directly involved with making the alterations on that stolen computer that Edwin Meese and Reagan's people were involved with. That's all straight up and down. I would say that Ricano Sudo's information is probably 98% correct and the 2% would only be an error. I think he's completely straight the same as Ted does. Thanks for coming by, Ted. Speaker 1: Yes. Thanks, Bob. Speaker 14: Just a quick question for Ted. In my readings regarding, other federal, Former federal government employees, CIA operatives and, military intelligence guys and stuff, a lot of them are afraid to come forward and talk because of The secrecy agreements they've signed and, subtle threats that are made against, you know, their their pensions and, in many cases, you know, out and out threats. And I was just curious If you've had any of that kind of pressure on yourself. Speaker 1: Yes, I have. Actually, I've never divulged any secrets, that I knew when I was in the FBI. Everything that I've told you tonight, I developed after I left the FBI, so I don't have any obligation to keep it quiet. Also, I was asked, last fall by the Society of Former Special Agents of the FBI To explain why I have made certain critical remarks of the FBI, and they specifically directed my attention to 6 or 8 statements I've made publicly, including that the FBI is corrupt. And, so, they they said either recant or resign. And if you don't resign we're gonna expel you. And I took every statement and I documented when I made it and where the Documentation was I furnished it along. I submitted a document about 4 and a half, 5 inches thick to back up my statements, and I haven't heard from him since. I'm still a member of the Society of Former Specialties of the FBI. But in the letter, I told him. I said it's very obvious to me That this inquiry was directed by the FBI itself and not by the society. And I said ensure that the FBI itself receives a copy of this response. Okay? Now in the Oklahoma City bombing, I immediately furnished the results of my investigation to the FBI, to the to Arlen Spector, To, Stephen Jones, McVay's attorney, to ICI explosives in Dallas, immediately furnished it to him. And of all of those, agencies and or groups that received the results of my investigation, And I begged, the FBI to come see me. And I and I begged Arlen Spector's Committee to come interview me. Of all of those, only, Stephen Jones investigators came and interviewed me. You see, the thing is, If the FBI would just come to see me, I would just sit down with my tape recorder and tell them all the things that I said tonight, and I would tell them Where they can go to get the documentation. In fact, I'd finish the documentation. But they don't wanna talk to me because they don't wanna hear this because they don't wanna have to be placed in a position where they might have to do something about it. It's that simple. And I know that. And I'm just bragging them to come see me. Please, FBI. You got any plans here tonight, by the way? Come see me. I don't know what's gonna happen. I I have no way of, determining that at this point. Speaker 14: Ted, just one more quick thing. Has Jeffrey McDonald ever considered writing a book from his standpoint, what happened in in his case? Speaker 1: No. He had, he hired, Joe McGinnis to write the 1st book and he thought it was gonna be pro Macdonald and ended up being just the opposite. And, he sued McGinnis for and obtaining out of court settlement of $325,000. And then, the latest was Jerry Potter, and, Jeff helped on that, version of fatal justice by Jerry Potter. But as far as I'm concerned, They didn't tell the whole story. I'm gonna I'm gonna write a book someday, and I'll tell the whole story. Speaker 0: Okay, this closes our program. Let's give Ted a big hand for all the wonderful information and taking a stand like he has. Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, folks. Enjoyed being here. Speaker 4: Appreciate that. God bless you. Speaker 3: For anybody who wants a copy

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Oh you hear George Bush was at one of these parties, surprise surprise. I’m not surprised.

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10 years ago Michio Kaku said this. He was recently on Joe Rogan talking about quantum computing, very fascinating stuff, very complicated to an ape like me. Notice how she shuts him down when he starts talking about the CIA & Vietnam & so on….?👀 https://t.co/Q9IBbmVb1P

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Scientists and researchers are experimenting with using lasers to manipulate the weather. By firing trillion-watt lasers into the sky, they can create ions that act as seeds for rain clouds and even lightning. This experimental technique has shown promise in the laboratory. In the past, governments have allegedly used similar methods to control the weather, but without conclusive results. However, with the use of these powerful lasers, scientists are now delving into the laws of physics to bring about weather changes. While this technique may not be effective on clear blue skies, it holds potential for aiding drought areas, agriculture, flood control, and even hurricane management.
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Speaker 0: Yesterday, and now we're learning that scientists and researchers are looking at how to change the weather on purpose. That's right. Lasers now could one day manipulate rain and lightning. CBS This Morning contributor Michio Kaku is a physics professor at City College of New York. Professor, nice to see you. Extraordinary seeing Al Gore and Bill Clinton there together with Charlie wasn't it? Speaker 1: That's right. Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. They did not get into this discussion though. But it is fascinating. I mean, lasers? Really? To change the weather? Speaker 1: That's right. Well, as Mark Twain once famously said, everyone complains about the weather but no one ever does anything about Well, instead of doing a rain dance, we physicists are firing 1,000,000,000,000 watt lasers into the sky to actually precipitate Rain clouds and actually bring down lightning bolts. This is potentially a game changer. Speaker 0: But this is experimental? Speaker 1: It's experimental. However, in the laboratory so far it works. When you have water vapor and you have dust particles or ice crystals, you can precipitate rain. It condenses around the seeds. These Seeds can also be created by laser beams. By firing trillion watt lasers, you rip apart the electrons creating what are called ions And these ions act like seeds, like dust particles bringing down rain and even lightning. Go ahead. Speaker 0: Well, I I this is fascinates me in part because too I remember reading the stories that China had used this during the Olympics, that the USSR had used this after Chernobyl to create rain clouds. I mean, What do those really work then? We have some of these capabilities now? Speaker 1: Inconclusive. Even in the sixties, the CIA used this To, bring down monsoons during the Vietnam war to wash out the Vietcong. Governments have been pleading Speaker 0: with this thing. Alleged to. Speaker 1: Alleged to. Right. Yeah. Now, We realized that for decades now, these governments have been alleged to have experimented with weather control, but nothing conclusive. This time we're digging into laws of physics rather than simply, waving our hands and uttering mumbo jumbo. We're actually using 1,000,000,000,000 watt lasers now. And in the laboratory, sure enough, they precipitate rain out of water vapor. Sure enough, you can actually bring down electricity down the down the beam. So what does it mean for drought areas that that need to have rain for crops and if they don't have them, there's the consequences of famine? Well, the bad news is if it's a clear blue Sky, it's not gonna do anything at all because it only taste water vapor that's already in the air and condenses it. However, for floods, For agriculture, farmers, for people planning wedding parties, football games, you name it. Outdoor events In agriculture and flooding and even hurricanes, all of them could be subject to weather modification. Speaker 0: Incredibly interesting. Professor Michio
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A woman in New Jersey noticed three men on top of a van posing for pictures with the burning Twin Towers in the background. She found it strange that they seemed happy instead of shocked. The witness called the police, who later stopped the van and arrested five Israeli men. Some of these men were found to have connections with Israeli intelligence, which raised concerns at the FBI. The FBI wanted to know who these men were, why they were in that parking lot on September 11th, and if they had any prior knowledge of the attacks.
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Speaker 0: It began when this woman was watching the Twin Towers burning from her apartment in New Jersey. She noticed 3 men on top of a van posing for pictures with the towers burning in the background. And I could see that they were, like, happy. You know? They they they were they didn't look shocked to me. You know, they didn't look sharp. I thought it was very strange. The witness called police who stopped the van hours later and arrested 5 men. All 5, it turns out, were Israeli. They were turned over to the FBI. Sources tell ABC News during a check of national security databases, Some of the men were listed as having had connections with Israeli intelligence. At the FBI, that set off alarm bells. The FBI needed the answers to 3 important questions. Who were these men? What brought them to that parking lot on the morning of September 11th? And did they have any advanced knowledge of what was going to happen that day?
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Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak's close ties with Jeffrey Epstein raise questions. Barak's alleged prediction of Osama Bin Laden on 9/11 adds to the intrigue. Benjamin Netanyahu's deceptive tactics, including lying about Saddam's nuclear weapons and claiming 9/11 was good for Israel, are concerning. Israel's perception of American support is absurd. The chilling disregard for human life, exemplified by Madeleine Albright's comment on Iraqi children's deaths, is deeply disturbing. General Wesley Clark's revelations about Middle East plans are eye-opening.

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Ehud Barak the former Israeli Prime Minister seems to “predict” Osama Bin Laden right away on the day of 9/11, probably at the same time the “Dancing Israeli’s” incident occurred. All the “war on terrorism” talk. Barak who also had close ties with Epstein, adding more to this thread/post pointing to some interesting stuff…

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Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak reacts to the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. He calls for a global effort led by the United States, UK, Europe, and Russia to combat terrorism. Barak acknowledges that while there were previous attempts, no one predicted an attack of this magnitude. He emphasizes the need for coordinated diplomatic, operational, intelligence, and economic actions to isolate nations supporting terrorism. Barak also discusses the impact on democracy and the need for increased security measures. He believes that the intelligence community can identify the sources of terrorism and calls for preemptive action against rogue states and leaders involved in terrorism.
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Speaker 0: The view from the Palestinian side. Joining me now here in the BBC World studio is the former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, who's in London at the moment. Mister Barak, welcome to BBC World. 1st, your reaction having heard what's happened. At least 4 planes have been hijacked and, there may be more. Speaker 1: The world will not be the same from today on. It's an attack against our whole civilization, I don't know who is responsible. I believe we will know in 12 hours. If it is a kind of bin Laden organization and even if it's something else, I believe that this is the time To deploy a globally concerted effort led by the United States, the UK, Europe, and Russia against All sources of terror, the same kind of struggle that our forefathers launched against the piracy, on the high seas. Speaker 0: In your position, as prime minister, defense minister, also formerly in the army, were you ever aware of any incident planned like this? Speaker 1: Not in the dimensions, but different elements where there clearly, there was an attempt on the, twin towers. Few years ago, there was an attempt to explode the Holland tunnel tunnel leading into Manhattan and but of this size and a simultaneous attack, I don't think that, anyone had predicted it in advance. Speaker 0: Is it something that security services, intelligence services could ever have got wind of? Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but this is not the the case. It's it really happened in front of our eyes, and the question what should be done In regard to it in order to avoid it in the future, it's going to be a tough struggle. There will be many tough and painful moments along the way, but I believe that if We will coordinate diplomatic, operational intelligence, and economic activities that will Not let them land at any airport and will isolate automatically any nation that is ready to host terror Or support them. By doing this consistently along 6 or 10 years, we will reduce dramatically, this challenge to all our way of life. Speaker 0: Your words, mister Barak, are very similar to the words used to justify missile defense in the United States, which may have taken another 10 or 15 years. Here, we've seen low tech hijacked by those with evil intent. Speaker 1: No. I believe that it's a first of all, missile defense is always also something which is clearly needed as long as it's done. Speaker 0: Something like this. Speaker 1: Rogue states and It should be done and it should be deployed maybe not on national level but only on trans regional level to cover exactly The sweat from rogue states like Iran, Iraq, or or Libya. But in this area, we He will suffer. It will not so be so easy to to go aboard an airplane in the next in the near future, but we have no way But to stand firm facing terror. Otherwise, all our way of life will be threatened. And to stand firm means to Isolate from the world every nation that is hosting them and calling every terror sag With the accurate name and be ready with all the pains that come with it to act upon our observations. Speaker 0: What Price might democracy have to pay given what has happened in the last 3 hours in the United States, given what you're experiencing now in Israel, in the center of Jerusalem, from your own citizens now with the bombing over the weekend. Speaker 1: There there is no shortcuts. You know? Our civilization is already highly, vulnerable. Look at the the entrances, the into the gates of boarding, airplanes. It's a situation where it's not easy. Every simple step crossing the border or going on a plane or or on a a ship We'll become more complicated, but at the same time, it's a time to identify. There are no more than 5 or 6 countries in the world which are They were actually responsible for hosting terror. There are no more than 10 or or 15 terror sacks in the world. All the organizations are well known. The Mi6 know all the information. The CIA know. The Mossad know it. And the same there's, the ZM bureau, the band. And it's time for action. Facing such an attack, we cannot but act. And these terror thugs and rogue leaders highly skillful in identifying the slightest correct Brutus time in the, will of power, power of will of of the leaders of the free world. Speaker 0: But let me press this point about democracy and the price democracy may have to pay because you know very well that many passengers in the United States have long expected to be able to walk into an airport, get on a domestic aircraft unhindered within about 10 minutes of the plane taking off. They expect that as a free country. Speaker 1: And it's it's it's a part of the problem that we have in a world which is so turbulent that we cannot, We will won't be able to isolate our advanced way of life from what happens around. And we it's a time to launch A a operational concrete war against, a terror even if it takes certain Pains form the routine activities of our normal society. Speaker 0: Now, mister Barak, you have deep problems, great attention in the Middle He's at the moment, but you've used there a war against this kind of terrorism. What can be done? Because the great thing that is talked about by people like you, diplomats, Politicians, world leaders is preventing conflict before it happens. When you talk about a war, how do you take a war or a challenge or a struggle to those who are determined through 3 or 4 people only today to hijack 4 planes, at least as we know, Hit the Pentagon, hit the World Trade Center, try and hit, we believe, somewhere else. How do you take a war to 4 people? Speaker 1: I spent decades, A struggling terror, almost, you know, with my, 10 fingers together with a lot of colleagues all around the world. I believe that the, World Intelligence Community, in a concerted effort, can identify within few months the sources of this terror. They can identify the places where they are deployed On earth. Every such a place is within certain country. The, Bin Laden sits in Afghanistan. There is a source of terror Speaker 0: to identify though? Because we're not saying he's responsible for this necessarily. Speaker 1: We we don't say that he's responsibility, necessarily responsible. We know where other terror sags are, living. We know that in for for Ganske, Doline in Central Asia He's a major root for duets, but at the same time, major root for terror. And I know that president Putin is highly Committed to the struggle against TOW, and I feel that he should be part of this international effort. I believe that the MI six is highly capable. You have proven it A long decades, your own skills in standing firm politically and acting, pointedly operationally against all. And we should cooperate with Speaker 0: both Preemptively. Speaker 1: Both preemptive and by diplomatic means, namely rogue states. There are 5 of them. Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, these kind of states should be treated as rogue states. And the same applies to Even to leaders, like Arafat, we've heard him just, recently condemning this. It's I Praise him for this condemnation but he personally is responsible for many terror events that happened in the last few years. Same happened with some other capitals in the Middle East. Speaker 0: Ehud Barak, former prime minister of Israel here in BBC World, thank you for joining us here in our studio in London. And as, mister Barak was speaking, we were

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Jeffrey Epstein was Ehud Barak's business partner as late as 2015 | The Times of Israel History is fun. https://www.timesofisrael.com/jeffrey-epstein-was-ehud-baraks-business-partner-as-late-as-2015-report/

Jeffrey Epstein was Ehud Barak’s business partner as late as 2015 Former PM's connection to financier accused of sex-trafficking minors becomes an issue ahead of national elections in September timesofisrael.com

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Benjamin Netanyahu speaks about countries needing to be pushed to war “Democracies don’t go to war easily, they usually debate & argue before they do. Sometimes they have to be bombed into going to war.” He lied about Saddham seeking nuclear weapons. Even said September 11th was GOOD for Israel, I’ve posted that article before.

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Democracies are reluctant to go to war and prefer to debate and argue. However, sometimes they need to be bombed into action, as seen in World War 2 when America was attacked at Pearl Harbor. This event opened Americans' eyes to the conflict and danger they faced. The majority of Americans are now determined to fight this battle. The September 11th attacks served as a wake-up call, urging Americans to use their power to act against terrorists who seek to destroy America and its allies. Saddam Hussein is unquestionably pursuing nuclear weapons, and removing his regime would have positive effects on the region. Benjamin Netanyahu has acknowledged the impact of the September 11th attacks.
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Speaker 0: Democracies don't go to war easily, and they usually debate and argue, before they do. Sometimes they have to be bombed into going to war. In fact, that's what happened in World War 2. All of Europe had been conquered. You had to America was actually bombed in Pearl Harbor, and that was a pivotal event That opened the eyes of Americans. And once their eyes were opened, they gathered the the power that is available in this great free nation, and the result was preordained. I think in a similar way, the bombing of September 11th opened the eyes of Americans to see the great conflict and the great danger that faces us. And once opened, then the the overpowering, will of the majority of the people of the United States, of the the steamroller, is, inexorably moving to to decide this battle. And this, I I think, has been a wake up call from hell. It is telling us, you have the power now to Act. Summon the will because the terrorists have the will to destroy America, to destroy freedom, to destroy All of America's allies and all the democracies, Israel being simply on the front line. There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons. No question whatsoever. If you take out Saddam, Saddam's regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region. Benjamin Netanyahu has publicly said the September 11th attacks have been good for

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A woman in New Jersey saw three men on top of a van taking pictures with the burning Twin Towers in the background. The men appeared happy and not shocked. The witness called the police, who later arrested five Israeli men. Some of them were connected to Israeli intelligence, which alarmed the FBI. The FBI wanted to know who these men were, why they were in the parking lot on September 11th, and if they had any prior knowledge of the attacks.
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Speaker 0: It began when this woman was watching the Twin Towers burning from her apartment in New Jersey. She noticed 3 men on top of a van posing for pictures with the towers burning in the background. And I could see that they were, like, happy. You know? They they they were they didn't look shocked to me. You know, they didn't look sharp. I thought it was very strange. The witness called police who stopped the van hours later and arrested 5 men. All 5, it turns out, were Israeli. They were turned over to the FBI. Sources tell ABC News during a check of national security databases, Some of the men were listed as having had connections with Israeli intelligence. At the FBI, that set off alarm bells. The FBI needed the answers to 3 important questions. Who were these men? What brought them to that parking lot on the morning of September 11th? And did they have any advanced knowledge of what was going to happen that day?

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“Conspiracy Theory” -exposedeceivers on Youtube. https://t.co/SQi8J1Il9n

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Mark and the speaker discuss the importance of acknowledging the credentials of a doctor before reading an article. The doctor, Alan Cebrowski, is a veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College. They then discuss the success of a certain foreign country in influencing US wars and the lack of understanding about the problem. The speaker claims that those who claim loyalty to both America and a foreign government are lying. They also discuss the USS Liberty incident and the belief that Israel was responsible for 9/11. The speaker believes that if Americans ever realize this, Israel will disappear. The speaker's article has been read by people in the military who were astonished and enraged by the information. The speaker believes that if the military truly understands what happened, there will be a bloody war and Israel will be history.
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Speaker 0: You know, Mark, I I I don't I don't think at the beginning of the show that that you read the the doctor's credentials off. I wish you would because it means a lot and it means a lot to me to hear them. Speaker 1: Absolutely. And I will do that right now since I'm about to launch into reading this excellent article. Alan Cebrowski, PhD, University of Michigan, is a 10 year US Marine Corps veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College. Now not only that, Doctor Cebrowski, correct me if I'm wrong here. Not only are you a graduate of the US Army War College, but you are director of studies there for some period of time. Is that correct? Speaker 2: That's correct. For five and a half years. Speaker 1: Five and a half years as director studies at the US Army War College. You know, of all the things that I would love to be able To have trailing behind my name, doctor Cebrowski, being the director of studies at the US Army War College would definitely be one of them. Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Speaker 1: When we look at the 2 wars that the United States finds herself in and on the cusp of at least 2 others And all of this for the benefit of a of a certain foreign, a country sitting on the eastern shores of the Mediterranean Sea. They have been wildly successful at at bringing all of this about. And I think one of the main components of this is the fact that very few people really understand the nature of the problem. And I think that your article here basically lays out the Problem which is is that when you have people who try to make this claim that they are loyal to America And at the same time, loyal to a foreign government. It is a lie. Speaker 2: It is and it's more it's more than that, Mark. What what we need to stand up and say is not only did they attack the USS Liberty, they did 911. They did it. I have had long conversations over the past 2 weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at Headquarters Marine Corps, and I made it absolutely clear in both cases That it is 100% certain that nineeleven was a Mossad operation. Mhmm. Period. Mhmm. You know? And, You know, Phil, I don't denigrate what happened to the USS Liberty in the slightest. You understand that. But for most Americans, you know, what happened into the USS Liberty or in Vietnam was history. Now this is history. You know, they can be concerned about it, but they're not going to get mad about it. Right. 9/11 Has led directly to 60,000 Americans dead and wounded. God knows how many hundreds of thousands of people in other countries that we've killed or wounded or made homeless. Mhmm. And it's an ongoing sore. It's not your sore from the USS Liberty, it's not my sore from Vietnam, both of us have those, both of us care about it. But this is an ongoing this is an open wound, and what Americans need to understand is they did it. They did it. And if they do understand that Israel is going to disappear, Israel will flat ass disappear from this Earth. If you know, I I sent a film to one of my colleagues and basically had Americans grieving over their debt Coming back. Mhmm. And I showed one of them, it was it was a woman just just wrenched by grief, You know, over over her dead soldier. And I said, you know, if Americans ever know ever know that Israel did this, they're gonna scrub them off the Earth and they're not gonna give a rat's ass, forgive my language, what the cost is. They are not gonna care. They will do it. How long Speaker 0: how long you And Speaker 2: they and they should and they should and they should. Speaker 0: How long, your your your your article and your heart and your testimony and what you believe in is is heart wrenching to me. It is it is, like our founding fathers in their shadow. Speaker 1: Down below Speaker 2: and you'd see Talking Speaker 0: molten steel. We have to fix this. Speaker 2: Molten steel running around the house. Speaker 0: Our own way. And we have to do it now Speaker 2: or we will go down. Exactly. And Absolutely, Phil. I agree fully. Your article Speaker 0: needs to be shipped off to the, to the Library of Congress immediately. Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you it's being read by some people in Headquarters of Marine Corps and at the Army War College. I sent it off to them this past week and I've had some long discussions with people up there, and there are some really, really unhappy people. Speaker 1: What what are they saying if you can if you can talk about that, doctor Spiroski? What, You know, I'm curious Astonishment. Speaker 2: The first thing, Mark, is astonishment. They didn't know. They truly didn't know, and these are not unintelligent people. They really didn't know. And the next statement is rage, real rage, you know, and the Zionists are playing this as truly an all or nothing exercise. Mhmm. Because if they if they lose this one Speaker 1: That's it. Speaker 2: If the American people ever realize what's happened, they're done. That's it. You know, I have 1 grandparent who's Jewish. Speaker 1: So by talking Speaker 2: It's not it's not only a matter of blowing our cover. If Americans ever truly understand that, they're history. You know, it'll be a bloody brutal war and they're gone. I mean, this is this is it's not even gonna be a close contest. Well And they know that and What they understand I think as well is that their leverage is on the political appointments. The leverage is not in the uniform services. There are a lot if you pick the the Army Times or the Navy Times or any of the journals of any of the services, you get a very different view than you get, You know looking at the Congress and the White House and the military has not been bought. The military is loyal, But it has not been bought. Mhmm. And if it ever understands this, really, really deeply understands this and this is what I what I got when I put some of these things to the to the Army War College and to Headquarters Marine Corps, and I I mentioned to to a contact at Headquarters Medical, I said, you know they did 911. Mhmm. And it was you don't mean it. I said absolutely. And if if they ever understand that, these keep our history. Speaker 1: Well, now let me ask you something, doctor. And obviously, I I understand that, you know, you've got we need to protect the names of the innocent here and And and, you know, this is probably Speaker 2: no in there are no innocent. Speaker 1: Okay. I'd like to I'd like to know a little bit more about I mean, these conversations that you're having with your colleagues who are still serving in uniform, what is the reaction on their part When you when you tell them things like this. Speaker 2: 1st first, the disbelief. And what I what I show them immediately afterwards is an interview with a Danish demolitions expert In Danny Jawenco. Mhmm. And it shows the 3rd building at the World Trade Center going down, WDC seven. Right. And they look at that And I said, no. You understand that if 1 of the buildings was wired for demolition, all of them were wired for demolition. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: And that's it. That's the tipping point. I mean, you know, getting into arguments about who was flying what where they were and whether there was nanothermite. These those things are true, but they're incidental. Right. The thing that's necessary is to Tell people 3 buildings went down, the 3rd was not hit by a plane, it was wired for controlled demolition, therefore, all of them are wired for controlled demolition. And at that point, the reaction is rage. 1st, disbelief and then rage. Speaker 1: Well, I gotta tell you that I find to be very, encouraging because, you know, based upon The cursory conversations I have with some military people, and I have to be real careful about what I say because, You just don't know what you're walking into when you start a discussion of this of this type with 1 of them. Based upon these, as I said, curse conversations that I've had with some of them, they're clueless and they don't wanna hear about it. You know, they they are loyal to the flag that, is on that on their left sleeve on as a patch. And the thought that the government could, be in any way involved in any kind of high crimes, and treason against the United States, people in the United States, is just unthinkable to them. So I'm glad to hear that there are some There still is some gray matter and some patriotism left, at least in the circles where you travel, doctor Cebrowski. Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not that they don't want to hear it, it's that they don't know of it. And you know what I have done when I presented it to these people and I said, Just look at this. Look at this picture. I'm not going to give you an argument, just look at it. And they look at the film and without exception, they come back and they say they did it, didn't they? I said, yep.

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Benjamin Netanyahu in the 80's. Interesting. https://t.co/niYsSntcbq

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What Israel thinks about the United States, they think 80% of Americans support them, so much it's ABSURD (his words not mine) so what's that tell you? & I'm sure this video wasn't taken yesterday either. https://t.co/MKgQYrgRMC

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Mister Bois, when will you apologize for the 1,000,000 Iraqis who suffered due to your lies? You deceived us about weapons of destruction and connections.
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Speaker 0: Mister Bois, when are you going to apologize for the 1,000,000 Iraqis that are dancing up? You lied. You lied about weapons about destruction. You lied about connections

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500,000…. that’s “WORTH IT.” Insanity.

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Same 💩 different 🚽 Madeleine Albright says the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children is “worth it.” https://t.co/Jtr3GF0kOC

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Over half a million children have died, surpassing the number of children who died in Hiroshima. Despite the difficult choice, we believe the price is justified. Iraq's military threat to its neighbors has significantly decreased, with most of its missiles destroyed. However, Iraq's behavior and intentions must change before our policies can change. We cannot allow the scorpion that bit us once to bite us again. We will continue opposing Iraqi intransigence and insisting on meeting international community standards for as long as necessary.
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Speaker 0: We have heard that a half a 1000000 children have died. I mean, that's more children than died when when in in Hiroshima. And and, you know, is the price worth it? I think this is a very hard choice, but the price we think the price is worth it. Iraq's military threat to its neighbors is greatly diminished. Most of its missiles have been destroyed. Iraq's behavior and intentions must change before our policies can change. Otherwise, we will allow Ow, the scorpion that bit us once to bite us again. To those who ask how long our determination will last, How long we will oppose Iraqi intransigence? How long we will insist that the international community standards be met? Our answer is as long as

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General Wesley Clark lays out the plans they had in the middle east. One of the most eye opening videos I ever stumbled across. https://t.co/3qqJ0XQYLa

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Around 10 days after 9/11, I met with Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz at the Pentagon. A general called me and informed me that we were going to war with Iraq, even though there was no evidence connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda. The decision was made because they didn't know what else to do about terrorism. A few weeks later, I asked if we were still going to war with Iraq, and I was told that the plan was even bigger. The Secretary of Defense had a memo outlining a strategy to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and ending with Iran. The presence of oil in the Middle East has always attracted great power involvement, and there has been a belief that force can be used to intervene in the region.
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Speaker 0: About 10 days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw secretary Rumsfeld and and deputy secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used used to work for me. And one of the generals called me and he said, sir, you gotta come in. You gotta come in and talk to me a second. I said, well, you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq. This was on or about the 20th September. I said, we're going to war with Iraq. Why? He said, I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So, I said, well, did they find some information collect connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda? He said, no. No. He says there's nothing new that way. They just Made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but We got a good military and we can take down governments. And, he said, I guess if if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. So I came back to see him a few weeks later. And by that time, we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the secretary of defense office today. And he said, It's a memo that describes how we're gonna take out 7 countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off, Iran. The truth is about the Middle East is had there been no oil there It would be like Africa Nobody is threatening to intervene in Africa. The problem is the opposite. We keep asking for people to intervene and stop it. And there's, there's no question that the presence of petroleum throughout the region has sparked great power involvement. Whether that was the specific motivation for the coup or not, I can't tell you. But but there was definitely there's always been this attitude that somehow we could intervene and use force in the region.
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There are reports of people celebrating the event, although it hasn't been confirmed. Witnesses claim that a group gathered on a building's roof near the Hudson River, anticipating the occurrence. When it finally happened, they celebrated by jumping for joy.
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Speaker 0: Is just it can't be explained. Are the are these people happy? Are they are they joyous now? Are they celebrating? Oh, absolutely. They're celebrating. There's one report. This has not been confirmed, but there's several reports that there was a a cell, one of these cells across the Hudson River. And they got on the, This is the report. I emphasize, I don't know this for a fact, but there's several witnesses who say this happened. They got on the roof of the building to look across. They knew what was gonna happen. They were waiting for it to happen. And when it happened, they celebrated. They they jumped for joy.
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The speaker discusses ideological subversion, a process used by the Soviets to change Americans' perception of reality. This process involves demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization. The speaker believes that America is already demoralized and that it will take 15 to 20 years to reverse this. They warn that if Americans do not wake up to the danger of socialism and big government, their freedoms will disappear. The speaker urges a strong national effort to educate people about the dangers of communism and to stop aiding the Soviet Union. They emphasize the need for action, not just petitions or letters.
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Speaker 0: Before about ideological subversion. That is a phrase that, I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand. When, the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by it? Speaker 1: Ideological subversion is is the process Which is legitimate, overt, and open. You you can see it with your own eyes. All all you have to do, all American mass media has is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes, and they can see it. There's no mystery. There's nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising, probably. That's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all, according to my, opinion, an opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower power is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare, What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions In the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing, process which goes very slow and it's divided in 4 basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes From 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years, which requires to, educate 1 generation of students in the country of of of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of of of at least 3 generations of American students Without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism, the result, the result you can see, most of the people who graduated in sixties, dropouts or half baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system, you are stuck with them, you cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They're programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind, even if you if you expose them to authentic information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rid society of these people, you have you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded And common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the United States Society Speaker 0: And yet these people who've been programmed and, as you say, in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept, these are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country. Speaker 1: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when when they will see in future what the what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously, they will revolt. They they they will, they they will be very unhappy, frustrated people. And Just Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. They, obviously, they will join the links of dissenters dissidents. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 1: Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in in future Marxist Leninist America. Here, you can you can get popular, like, Daniel Ellsberg, and filthy rich, like Jane Fonda, for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This, they don't understand, and, it will be greatest shock for them, of course. The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually, it's overfulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously, not even Comradhan Dropov and and all his experts would would even dream of such a tremendous success, most of it is done by Americans to Americans, Thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information, the facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by Forced to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he he's going to receive a kick in the in his fat bottom. When a military boot crashes his then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization. So, basically, America is stuck with with demoralization. And unless even if if you start right now, here, this minute, you start educating new generation of American, it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of, of ideological perception of reality, back to normal normalcy and and, patriotism, the next stage is destabilization. This time subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flub, it doesn't matter anymore. This time and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. It's what what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as as, defense and economy, the influence of Marxist Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed, in this part of the world that the process will go that fast. The next stage, of course, is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now. And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure, and economy, you have so called the period of normalization it may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 68, Comrade Brezhnev said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in the United States, if you allow all the schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on Earth, to to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government in Washington, DC with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale, who will promise lots of thing, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of of new generation of Soviet assassins, never mind, he will create false illusions that the situation is under control. Situation is not under control situation is disgustingly out of control. Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime, false. United States is in the state of war, undeclared total war against the basic principles and the foundations of of this system, and and the initiator of this war is not Comrade Dondropov, of course. It's it's the system. However ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy, whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If if you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you. But you don't have to be paranoid about it. What what actually happens now that, unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. The the time bomb is ticking with every second, the disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to Unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins. This is it. This is the last country of freedom and possibility. Speaker 0: Okay. So what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people? Speaker 1: Well, the, the, the immediate thing that comes to my mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the in in the spirit of real patriotism, number 1. Number 2, To to explain them the real danger of socialist, communist, whatever, welfare state, big brother government. If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, nothing ever can help United states you make his goodbye to your freedom, including freedoms to to homosexuals, to prison inmate, all this freedom will vanish, evaporate in in 5 seconds, Including your precious lives. The second thing, I the moment at least part of the United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to force their government. And I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, noble activity. I am talking about Haitians and all this beautiful noble activity, I am talking about forcing United States government to stop aiding communism Because there is no other problem more burning and and urgent than to stop the Soviet military industrial complex From destroying what is whatever is left of the free world. And it is very easy to do. No credits, no technology, no money, no political or diplomatic recognition, and, of course, no such idiocy as grain deals to USSR. The Soviet people, 270,000,000 of Soviets, will be eternally thankful to you if you stop aiding a bunch of murderers who sit now in Kremlin and whom President Reagan respectfully calls government they do not govern anything, least of all such complexity as the Soviet economy.
Saved - October 31, 2023 at 4:07 AM

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This is WILD. https://t.co/Rx062VpKzc

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Birthright Israel offers free 10-day trips to Israel for 18 to 26-year-old Jews, aiming to strengthen their connection to their heritage. The program was launched in 1999 to combat the continuity crisis, as many young Jews were disengaging from Jewish life. The trips focus on experiencing Israel rather than lectures, with visits to various cities and attractions. The program is committed to four principles: showing, not telling; making it fun; having no strings attached; and allowing participants to be the captain of their own Jewish journey. The trips have had a significant impact, fostering a sense of belonging and creating lifelong friendships. Since its inception, Birthright Israel has had over 750,000 participants from 68 countries, with high rates of alumni feeling it was a life-changing experience and maintaining a strong connection to Israel.
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Speaker 0: A 10 day trip to Israel with flights, food, and a ton of Instagramable moments, all for free? You may have heard of birthright Israel, the all expense paid adventure to the holy land. Seems too good to be true. Right? There has to be a catch, but there isn't one. You're not going to be roped into long boring religious seminars or be told what to think about the Israeli Palestinian conflict. However, there is a goal. I mean, this isn't Oprah. The organization behind the trips does have donors who wanna return on their investment. So what is the goal of birthright Israel? In the 19 nineties, polls in America and throughout the west confirmed what most Jews could see for themselves. Many young Jews were drifting away from Jewish life. They weren't excited about being Jewish or building Jewish lives. Jewish leaders called this the continuity crisis. While pondering this crisis, these leaders noticed that when they traveled with their families to Israel. Their kids seemed far more excited about being Jewish. Recognizing how their own kids connected to their heritage in Israel, but yawned in synagogue. They wondered if visiting Israel would have the same positive impact on others. That got them thinking. Could they make trips to Israel more accessible? In the nineties, most young Jews had never visited Israel, especially not those living in North America, where the 11 hour plus plane ride didn't come cheap. The polling at the time predicted that barely 1 in 5 American Jews would visit Israel at any point during their lifetimes. 2 philanthropists took this all very seriously, and brought other thinkers and leaders together to wrestle with the issue. They came up with kind of a crazy proposal. Could we give every young side of Israel, the gift of a trip to Israel. That premise would eventually become the most unprecedented, experimental, and ambitious educational project Judaism had ever seen. But in those early days, there was a lot to sort out. How long should the trip be? Should it be free for everyone? Should they just hand out free plane tickets and let Jewish backpackers invade? Though the debates could have continued forever, these forward thinkers took the plunge and launched the program in December of 1999. They landed on offering free 10 day trips for 18 to 26 year olds no matter how much money they had or how observant were. If you were Jewish, this trip was your birthright. The catch for this free trip was simple. Create new links in the chain of Jewish continuity. The program was committed to 4 guiding principles. 1st, show, don't tell. Participants are there to experience Israel, not hear about it. Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, the Negev Desert and Tel Aviv would all be on the itinerary. Second, make it fun. The trip couldn't be all lectures, museums, and historical ruins. Hikes, experiencing Israeli nightlife, floating in the dead sea, and camel rides were other ways young Jews could enjoy the culture as much, if not more so, than the history alone. 3rd, no strings attached. This could only inspire connection if nothing else was asked in return. This was an actual gift. No alumni donation calls, no expectation to push it on your friends, No paybacks. And finally, invite every participant to be the captain of their own Jewish journey. Now this last one was a little tricky. The trip would need to be set within certain parameters. Also, there would still need to be some sort of teaching aspect and a goal to foster connection. The experience would introduce them to the history and heritage of the Jewish people, the story of Zionism, the meaning of Jewish identity. But once teed up, each young Jew could follow through as they wished. Their solution was guided tours with 40 participants exploring the country together. In the past, group tours of Israel had been run by political organizations or religious groups with specific agendas. So birthright Israel committed to offering nonpartisan, non ideological general introductory tours using an approach tailor made to fit this new generation. As they continue to grow the program and fine tune it, themed Trips were created to best fit each participant. These focus around interests such as food and outdoor activities or ones that cater to specific communities like trips for orthodox or LGBTQ plus participants, which foster a deeper connection to personal identity within the group. And after the 10 days are up, Participants have the option to extend their return flight to have whatever experiences they choose. In the earliest days of the trip, the impact was immediate and apparent. Participants quickly learned that being in Israel meant Judaism was much more than just going to synagogue, observing Jewish holidays, or keeping kosher. Judaism wasn't some distant or abstract idea you learned about in Hebrew school. It was something real, something tangible. Wandering around the streets in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. They had a feeling of belonging to a big diverse worldwide Jewish family. As one first time visitor to Israel remarked. Even when cab drivers say good morning or Shabbat Shalom to you, you don't feel it's just coming out of politeness. You feel that they care about you. In addition to their shared Heritage, traveling in groups created an instant community resulting in lasting lifelong friendships. Countless romances from the trips have blossomed into serious relationships and even marriages. Every trip builds on the Jewish people's long standing involvement and fascination with Israel. A mere 10 days fully immersed in the Jewish state, where a Jew can feel proud to be Jewish is life changing. And there are statistics to prove it. Since birthright Israel began, over 750 1000 Jews from 68 countries have taken the trip. 85% of alumni feel that the Birthright Israel trip was a life changing experience. 84% of them are raising their children Jewish, and 93% of participants are likely to be very much connected to Israel. And Birthright Israel programs have contributed upwards of $1,500,000,000 to the Israeli economy. Few organizations, foundations, or even commercial brands can report such success rates. Birthright Israel's unique and immersive experiential education was the first of its kind. Since then, other Diaspora communities and heritage groups seeking to connect their younger generations have taken note, hoping to root their own young people in their heritage. It all may seem too good to be true that donors, philanthropists, and the government of Israel are willing to a 100% foot the bill so you can take a vacation. But there's something about this experience that simply can't be replicated. There's so much more to Judaism than Hebrew school, high holidays, and. If the only catches the chance, not the expectation, that you'll learn a little about Jewish history, and possibly form a connection to your heritage? Then maybe it's a chance worth taking.
Saved - October 27, 2023 at 5:19 AM

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General Wesley Clark lays out the plans they had in the middle east. One of the most eye opening videos I ever stumbled across. https://t.co/3qqJ0XQYLa

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Around 10 days after 9/11, I met with Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz at the Pentagon. A general called me in and informed me that we were going to war with Iraq. When I asked why, he didn't have a clear answer. There was no evidence connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda. It seemed like they didn't know what else to do, so they decided to go to war. A few weeks later, I asked if we were still going to war with Iraq, and he showed me a memo stating that we planned to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and ending with Iran. The Middle East's oil resources have attracted great power involvement, and there has always been a belief that we could use force in the region.
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Speaker 0: About 10 days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw secretary Rumsfeld and and deputy secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used used to work for me. And one of the generals called me and he said, sir, you gotta come in. You gotta come in and talk to me a second. I said, well, you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq. This was on or about the 20th September. I said, we're going to war with Iraq. Why? He said, I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So, I said, well, did they find some information collect connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda? He said, no. No. He says there's nothing new that way. They just Made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but We got a good military and we can take down governments. And, he said, I guess if if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. So I came back to see him a few weeks later. And by that time, we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the secretary of defense office today. And he said, It's a memo that describes how we're gonna take out 7 countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off, Iran. The truth is about the Middle East is had there been no oil there It would be like Africa Nobody is threatening to intervene in Africa. The problem is the opposite. We keep asking for people to intervene and stop it. And there's, there's no question that the presence of petroleum throughout the region has sparked great power involvement. Whether that was the specific motivation for the coup or not, I can't tell you. But but there was definitely there's always been this attitude that somehow we could intervene and use force in the region.
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Avichai Sharon and Noam Chayut, former IDF soldiers, discussed the harsh reality of their military service in a 2006 interview titled "Burning Conscience." Avichai highlighted the lack of rules of engagement and the power he had as a young soldier to destroy Palestinian property at will. He has collected numerous testimonies from IDF soldiers and has been vocal about the issue in Palestine. This eye-opening account sheds light on the situation, including the tragic death of American journalist Rachel Corrie, who was killed by a bulldozer while documenting the events.

@Wordsarewordz - Words are words

Avichai Sharon & Noam Chayut are both veterans of the Israeli Defense Force. They did this interview “Burning Conscience” in 2006. Avichai deeply explains how they were conducted as IDF soldiers. He explains the brutality, & lack of policy in the IDF military, there’s no rules of engagement policy, sometimes they’d get their rules of engagement in a handbook. He goes into how as a 20-21 year old soldier he had the power to destroy essentially anything a Palestinian owned if he wanted to, if he didn’t like a house because it’s yellow, bulldoze it, why not. He’s gotten a staggering amount of IDF soldiers statements & has been speaking out about the issue in Palestine for a while. Very eye opening. Also don’t forget an American journalist Rachel Corrie got killed by a bulldozer over there trying to also document & speak out about this. Wild situation…

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Israeli Defense Forces veterans Akay Sharon and Noam Kayut, members of the forum Breaking the Silence, share their experiences as occupiers in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They discuss routine operations such as arrests and searches, as well as the disruption and destruction caused to Palestinian families. They also reveal the systemic corruption and lack of accountability within the military, including revenge attacks and the demolition of Palestinian homes. Breaking the Silence aims to bridge the gap between the reality of the occupation and the public's knowledge, both in Israel and abroad. The veterans emphasize the importance of public opinion in bringing about change and raising awareness of the moral corruption occurring in the occupied territories.
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Speaker 0: Alternate focus interviews Akay Sharon and Noam Kayut, both veterans of the Israeli Defense Forces. All young Israelis, male and female, with few exceptions, are required to serve 2 to 3 years of active military duty in the Israeli Defense Forces. Sharon and Kayut served during the 2nd intifada, a 4 year long bloodbath that claimed the lives of over three 1,000 Palestinians and 950 Israelis. After thorough introspection, these young men have chosen to speak out about their experiences as self described brutal occupiers of a disputed land. And Sharon and Kayut are not alone. They are members of a new forum for young Israeli Defense forces veterans called breaking the silence. Now a worldwide exhibition, breaking the silence features photo our displays and live speeches. Now Sharon and Kayut share their stories. Speaker 1: Most of the missions that my unit was given and carried out were Arrest operations, search operations, going into taking over cities or towns or villages, of course, in the nighttime. And, sometimes you would continue in the same place for a few days searching, going from one house to the other, searching them, Taking over houses as observation points or, arresting people. And that's your routine. My routine was or our routine Was that we never knew where we're gonna be from 1 minute to the other. One night we could be in Navios, the next night we could be in Gaza, the next night we could be in Hebron. And and there's at a certain point, you just lose track of where you are, who you are, and and what you're doing because You go into you disrupt people's lives on a daily basis. And for me, that was the most, I think when I look at it today, when I reflect on it today, I'm someone who couldn't do that during your service because you can't really you live in the, you know, Denial, way of life where you can't look at what you're doing. You can't really reflect on it. But when I reflect on it today from from this perspective, I can say that that was probably for me the the deepest, example of corruption. Not the extreme cases where there was Shooting or stuff like that. But just thinking that there were hundreds of thousands of of families They couldn't have 1 peaceful night of sleep in their homes. I mean, who of who in in today, In in the USA, in Israel, and anywhere else would be willing to live like that. Not knowing if at 2 o'clock in the morning, 20 soldiers will take take over your house for a week, not knowing, sitting in your in your living room, and suddenly hearing, smashing on the wall and and there is a hole in the wall and suddenly 20 soldiers come to visit. And, and for me, that was routine. Speaker 2: In newspapers, so just An article about the conflict confiscation car keys confiscation, when you detain car, during to enforce curfew when you detain cars because they just passed the line that close to checkpoint, whatever. And it's not the article, and the soldiers have brought out, more or less 100 car keys and brought it brought it to the press. But the the response of the spokesman, sir, of the IDF the spokesman of the IDF that said, This is an extreme case, a rotten apple. It will be checked, examined, and won't happen again. And now I give the order to take posting in car keys and to detain cars, 100% in my unit. I saw in the West Bank Boxes full of car keys and and IDs that were taken and were supposed to be returned, but and then I know my father read the newspaper for me, and I know that he believes. I mean, he's from the from a different generation Where things maybe were better off when people could believe the system. And he really thinks that this is an extreme case That would wouldn't be that won't happen again. And for me, that was it was a point a point of understanding that I'm not bad for what I did, and I didn't do it for fun. I got my orders. I thought it was okay. I thought I was a part of the system that Protect Israel from terror attacks, and and then I understand that it's, you know, it's just a game If keeping information inside and not letting anybody know and how can you criticize, how can you ask questions, and that was may be one of the first times that I asked what's going on here. Speaker 1: One time in When we finished an operation in Adelus, and, and it was really destructive. We were 5 or 6 days straight in Adelus with A lot of IDF Forces tanks and APCs, and it was very destructive. I mean, the whole infrastructure of the city was torn up. There was a lot of Houses that were, either damaged or even destroyed. And there was a lot of shooting, mostly by the IDF Into the city. And when we got out of there, the first the first thing that happened when we left the city, got back to the army barrack, was I heard a radio news flash, which happens every hour in Israel. And it was going like IDF forces left after a search Shadrach operation found this and that, and that's it. And I think that even then, I suddenly realized my parents are not sitting at home. Listening to the radio, and they're sure that here we are. They're heroes. Their son, they sent, found weapons and ammunition and did this and that and and that and so important things to defend this country, but they don't know The truth, they don't know that 99% of what we did there was destroy people's property, destroy their lives, but they no one told them that. And I think, like, Noam, when he just realized what the, you know, where the truth is and where it's going, I I Today, I can say that that was one time that I really started to think of how the reality is being kept, Yeah. Under the surface, hidden from the public. Speaker 2: You hear the radio or news and TV saying IDF forces return fire to sources of fire. Now you know that you were that we're shooting at, or you know that there is no such thing in daylight, sources of fire in urban areas. And Speaker 1: In nighttime. Speaker 2: You know that you can't really from a barrack far away, you can't really see, most of the time the the exact place you're shooting And and that Soulstice of Fire, which as a soldier, you know that it's just a title, good for news, But and and this this, alas, we didn't hear it while serving. Speaker 1: I wanna give you one example of something that we've exposed also in in the press in Israel and in foreign press a few months ago about a revenge attack that was launched by the IDF After 1 night in February 2002, 2, terrorists from the Islamic Jihad, attacked an IDF check point. I'm killing I killed 6 IDF soldiers. The same night the same night, the chief of staff, the minister of defense, Not some sergeant at a checkpoint. You know, this is policy right from the top. Decided to launch a revenge raid against Indian officers, some of them just traffic officers, all around the West Bank in Gaza. The next day, 15 Palestinian officers were hit, Were dead. Reported dead. And we spoke with 4 5 different 5 different soldiers and officers In 2 different units that were part of these raids and part of the attacks on 2 on on 4 different checkpoints In different areas, geographically had no connection whatsoever to the place that was attacked by the, the night on the IDF checkpoint. No connection. 1 was in Nablus. 1 was near Ramallah. And they just attacked, and the orders were just go there, shoot to kill. And in the briefing by the commanders, by the high ranking commanders, commanders of units, brigade commanders, they were told She that this is revenge. We are going to revenge the blood of our soldiers. So when you ask me where it comes from, this was Not some spontaneous, 19, 20 year old kid that lose his his mind that that, You know, went out of control for a second and slapped someone. This was policy. People sat down in offices, comfortable offices and decided to kill people as revenge. And the next day, 15 people reported dead That had no connection whatsoever to the attack on the IDF. So when we have to and and we exposed this. And then, you know, we weren't expecting something dramatic to change because when people ask me, Don't you think something should happen? Of course, I think something should happen. But do you really think that the Israeli public or someone will be Brave enough to say that the minister of defense has to be investigated? That the chief of staff has to be investigated? This is not A 1920 year old or even a lieutenant that should be investigated. This is the system. This is the government. This is the policy. The story behind Breaking the Sound and what it's trying to do Is that one day in March 2004, a young guy, a month before his discharge, woke up in the morning and found out that he can't look at himself in the mirror. That guy's name was Yehuda. He's the founder of Breaking the Silence, and he started to talk with his friends, with people that were his soldiers, his commanders, Especially about Hebron. He served 14 months in Hebron in the 2nd mtifada. And that evolved into a, exhibition of pictures taken by soldiers, not photographers, not journalists. Just pictures that, you know, 18, 19 year olds took for memories. And we Took that out of photo albums, presented over 60 of them with over 60 soldiers giving video testimonies about their Hebron service. And that evolved from there to what it is today, a much much much bigger group of Soldiers that served all around the occupied territories as conscripts or as officers in the second Intifada. And we've interviewed over 300, Mostly discharged. Some still in service. Soldiers, in the IDF. And The message or what we're trying to do with all this is when we were discharged, the the first thing the fundamental thing that we all felt Was the amazing distance or gap of information between what is really going on in the occupied territories, what we're really doing over there, And what is known back home to our parents, to our neighbors, to our public figures and leaders? What is told by the press? What is told by the IDF? And we felt a moral obligation as much as a social obligation as people who grew up in Israel, did their military service who love their country and are very, very concerned about how we will look Tomorrow. How we will raise our children tomorrow? Because we don't wanna see ourselves anywhere else. And, Out of that concern, we felt the moral obligation of bringing that information, the true stories of what we're doing in the occupied territories to the public And raising a true public debate on all platforms. Press, politicians, everywhere you can think of, about the real corruption, the moral corruption that is happening in occupied territories. The price Of sending more and more generations to be occupiers? Speaker 2: Regular silence. Try to fight a code of silence, which has Many aspects. First of all, and and the most important one as we see it, is the personal one. When you stand in a post for the checkpoint. And I commanded Calangi checkpoint between Jerusalem and Ramada We're almost 3,000 Palestinian across every day. And your job, even if you don't wanna do it, you Stop people from living the the the life that they should have. That you stop you take their freedom to go to work, you take the freedom to go to university. And many times even if you don't wanna do it, you humiliate people. You make them stand in line 4 hours, And when you go back home after a month of doing it, you have a weekend break. You don't come home to your girlfriend or to your mother and say, hey. The day before yesterday I saw somebody more or less your raise mommy and unless we're waiting to stand for 5 hours because I didn't have a permission to pass. I mean, that daily life of occupation of controlling people is the first aspect of of of the silence. Breaking the silence is a personal force. It's something first of all, it's not anything To look at yourself in the mirror and and and see what you really have done and and and the other side, it's it's very it's very good feeling to feel a hero, to talk about the fight, the times that you were fighting terrorists, and that you saw them in, Realizing the damage for the population, really, like, the hatred that you've created is hurting. And Most when we call people friends, when we have telephones from units in the army and start calling to people, Most of them say, you know, we kind of agree with what you're doing. Some agree more, some less, but leave me alone. I mean, I've I've served. I've done it. I've left the country for a year to forget about it. I I'm back here. Just let go. And so it's not that easy to get to people to get people to talk even if they even if they agree with the lady. But we've, as the guy said, we've interviewed over 300 soldiers, and and you need to understand that's not a 1 hour interview. It's, or TV interview. People someone tells you about 2 years or 3 years out of his life. Speaker 1: It's It's important to understand the 2 different aspects of or 2 different types of testimonies that we've collected until now. In the 1st few months, most of the testimonies that we exposed, were testimonies on the routine daily Brutality and individual or group corruption that happens, humiliation, abuse, Theft, looting, things that for Israelis mostly, but I think for any person that wants to deny, can say rotten apples, extreme cases, people that, broke the law, broke regulations, and should be, convicted or prosecuted. And it doesn't it it sometimes doesn't even matter that you tell them, well, these are stories about units, about hundreds There's thousands of soldiers, and that was something that we we, were posing for a long time. And the last campaign that we did was a collection a massive collection of testimonies, policies, Procedures, orders, you know, things that can't be very easily swept under the rug and and called brown apples because they are the system. And, the main issue that we were addressing in this campaign was the were the rules of engagements. The rules of engagement in Israel are classified. The, in this intifada, are not even written down, even though in past times, the IDF used to issue or distribute pocketbooks With the rules of engagement in occupied territories to every conscript and reservist. In this Intifada, not only didn't they distribute this, It is all passed down orally. There is no document written down that is passed down to the officers in the field or the soldiers. And we have decided that especially because the most, dominant thing A dramatic thing that has happened in the 2nd Tifada is the casualties, is that people are being killed. And children, regular people, innocent people are being killed. And, and it has been much more violent on both sides. Both on the Israeli side with the suicide bombers and both on on the Palestinian side with all the actions that are being done by the IDF. And, we've exposed a massive collection of those. I think, for me, the one that sticks out the most He's an officer from an elite unit telling us about his experiences in Rafa. And He told his testimony is very, very long, so I won't say it all. But he take talks about 2 main issues. 1 is the demolition of houses, And he describes now in the briefing, they were told that the procedure is you don't go into a far and foot because it was right after The APCs blew up. If you remember, that was in in in the summer of 2004, and it was very hectic. And you couldn't walk by foot, so you come with APCs, Thieves tanks and bulldozer. D nine caterpillar, bulldozers, giant monsters. And before you even say something to the family that you're gonna take their house, Before you do anything, the the d nine, the bulldozer, digs, 8 meter, digs 8 meter deep, a ditch surrounding 360 degrees surrounding the house. Then he punches a hole. You don't say anything to the family. Just punch a hole into one of the walls and then the APC comes right up to the to to the to the family's home And you lower the ramp and the soldiers go in. And I was asking him, who's deciding which houses? And and then he just he describes to me how they Demolish. How they destroy every house in that area that bothers their, observation, that might be threatening everything. Then I asked him, who is given who decides what to destroy? And he says, well, the officer is in the field. And you have to understand these could be lieutenants, 21 year old lieutenants, decide what to destroy and what not to destroy. And then when I asked him, And no one told you criterias of what you can and what you can't? I mean, if the officer decides that it doesn't like I don't know. A yellow house and the house is yellow. Exactly the ones that I used. And he says, well, if he doesn't like yellow, he can destroy it. And it's that easy. And I think for me, that was an amazing it's still, I I it's still something that I carry every day because it's it's exactly how the procedures, how the policy are so corrupt from the start that when they are carried out in the field, The amazing power that you have as a 1920 year old soldier carrying out these policies, these procedures On the field are just so tragic or so are are disastrous. Speaker 2: 1st, I'll give you a quote, my ministry of, of foreign affair of Israel that said that the public opinion of the the public opinion in the US is the most powerful weapon that the idea has all that Israel has. And I think in this case, he's right. And I think that the public opinion here and society here immunes us And enable us to do many things that that in my in my opinion, bringing to our social destruction. And I can give you another extreme Example, which, soldier that, interviewed. Right? Mhmm. One of us Interview. And he's in a unit that engineering unit. They're actually what they're doing is to blow up things. Bridges, houses, and the idea didn't do them at the beginning of that incident. The first time they used them was 911. 10 minutes after the the airplane hit the tower, The 1st weapon he did that was there on the way to Janine to block houses. Why that? I can tell you what he said. The soldier that was interviewed, The big brother wasn't looking, wasn't watching. So that's how much things are connected. And I think we realized after the 2nd campaign that after the the campaign of the rule of engagement of And and the systematic reason for, innocent casualties, we realized that It was public it was well publicized, but it didn't bring up any real debate in society. And because this is the main reason. The most the the most powerful one I think is that is These are things that you can't criticize. I mean, you can't classify as rotten apple. It's hard for society to to face. And and I think we we realized that we that there was a bigger game going on that, that we're not the only player in this, in this game, and that's where That's what that's why we're here. Speaker 1: I I think, Just add one thing to Noam that the the the public opinion of the United States is is, as you said, something that That enables us to continue this reality and just like we're doing back home, trying to force sometimes This truth, the stories onto the Israeli public so they'll be aware of them. Exactly what we came here to do is to bring this to the homes of the American society. Jews, Americans, kids and all Americans. To tell them this is what is really going on. It's about time that you know what you're enabling. Speaker 3: One really imagine this war taking place if the principal export of Iran Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or dates instead of? I don't think so. Speaker 1: You have the right not to have to interact with an agent of the government. You have the right not to have to answer their questions. Assert those rights, and not just for yourself. Assertive and stand up for the people who might need to intervene. Speaker 3: We're first. The 2nd group will be the Latinos. The 3rd group will be the African Americans, and 4th group will be the Koreans, and the 5th group will be the Chinese. So it's not gonna stop with us. If you don't stop it now, it's gonna be you.
Saved - October 21, 2023 at 2:01 PM
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In a lively interview with Piers Morgan, Bassem Youssef remains composed despite his wife's family living in Gaza. He humorously mentions her using their children as "human shields." Piers, however, urges him to be serious, which is intriguing considering the circumstances. Bassem starts listing facts, but Piers interrupts when numbers are mentioned, possibly to withhold information. This raises questions about Piers' intentions.

@Wordsarewordz - Words are words

Bassem Youssef on Piers Morgan is a very entertaining interview. What I see: Bassem Youssef's wife's family lives in Gaza, & he's still cool as a cucumber. He makes a joke about trying to kill her but she always uses their children as "human shields." Piers tells him to "be serious" which I find interesting, I personally wouldn't tell anyone from there or who really knows the situation to "be serious". Bassem starts naming off facts, he says "I can go on & on & on." Piers interrupts him when he starts naming off numbers, odds are cause Piers doesn't want the general population to know those numbers, he seems to be an establishment shill. 110%

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TV host and satirist Bassam Youssef discusses the conflict in Israel and Gaza. He shares his personal experience of having family in Gaza and expresses concern for their safety. Youssef sarcastically remarks on the repetitive nature of the bombings and the resilience of the Palestinian people. He mentions an interview with Ben Shapiro, praising his intelligence and agreeing with his suggestion to annex Gaza and eliminate terrorists. Youssef questions the exchange rate for human life and criticizes the concept of proportionate response. He condemns Hamas but also highlights the violence and casualties caused by the Israeli military. Youssef concludes by sarcastically applauding Israel for warning civilians before bombing them.
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Speaker 0: Well, joining me now to discuss the conflict in Israel and Gaza is the TV host and satirist Bassam Youssef. Bassam, it's great to have you back on the program. I wish it was under different circumstances. First of all, what is your reaction to what happened on October 7th? Speaker 1: Oh, it was terrible, of course. I mean, we kind of get our news kind of also secondhand because, you know, my my wife's family, They live in Gaza. They have cousins and uncles there, and their house also was bombed. We haven't been able to communicate with them for the past 3 days. Communication are lost. So we don't know actually what is the, How is how are they doing? But, you know, we're used to that. I mean, it's it just like it's it's very repetitive. We're used to that. We're used to them being bombed every time and moving From one place to the other, you know, it's just like those Palestinians, they're very dramatic. Israel killing us. But they never die. I mean, they always come back. You know, they're they're very difficult to kill, very difficult people to kill. I know because I'm married to one. I tried many times. Couldn't kill her. Speaker 0: I mean, there's a dark humor there, and I understand why because Oh, Speaker 1: it's not dark human. I really I try to get to her every time, but she uses our kids As human shields, I can never take her out. Speaker 0: Again, I understand the humor. But to be serious, Bassem, about this, Tonight, there Speaker 1: is I will be serious. No. I I I will be serious. I was watching your interview with Ben Shapiro, and I'll tell you one thing. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 1: I think that Ben Shapiro is one of the smartest People who ever walked this Earth, he's very, very smart. I follow him, and I believe everything he said. And when he came out on your show, His solution was, and I quote, his solution was that the solution for this is for Israel to annex Gaza and to kill as many son of bitches as possible to make sure that this will never happen again. And anyone anyone who call for a ceasefire will be a terrorist sympathizer. So God forbid, I don't wanna be Labeled as a terrorist sympathizer. So I agree with Ben Shapiro. I think we should kill as many son of bitches as possible. Speaker 0: Well, let me Speaker 1: okay. But, Speaker 0: Bassem, let me Speaker 1: See, so far, 3,500 people were killed, including 5,000 son of bitches in the bombing of the Baptist, hospital as we speak right now, 1 third of those 3,500 were children. So my question to Ben Shapiro is, how many more son of bitches Do we need to kill so Ben Shapiro is happy? Speaker 0: Because it changes for 1 year. It changes for Speaker 1: more I'm I'm I'm sorry that Please, this is it. I'm I'm I'm I'm really at a disadvantage here. I'm looking at a camera. I don't see you. I can hear you on my Speaker 0: Plating different interviews with Ben Shapiro. He didn't use the phrase sons of bitches with me. Let me play to you what he actually said Speaker 1: in my speech. He did. Go back Go back to your interview. Speaker 0: He did. That was another interview. But let me play what he said to me here. Speaker 2: Well, frankly, I don't believe in proportionate response to terrorism. I believe that the way that you stop terrorism is with Outly disproportionate response. That doesn't mean in terms of targeting civilians. It means in terms of killing as many terrorists as humanly possible and allowing them to dictate The terms of engagement by hiding behind civilians in areas that that they're supposedly responsible for means that the only option for Israel is to surrender to Hamas' Hatred of its own citizens, its willingness to use its own children as human shields. No no country worth its salt could ever do that. Speaker 0: Now that is significant substantively different to what you said he said. Right? He's talking there Speaker 1: But but I Speaker 0: I I agree with him. Speaker 1: I agree. I I I agree with him. The the thing is the question is, what is a proportionate response? Because it has been different from 1 tier to another. So if you look to this graph, for example, This is the death of Israeli and Palestinians, and it's changing from 1 year to year. It's like fluctuating like crypto. So my question is today, what is the going rate today For human life. I mean, 2014 was a great year for Ben Shapiro. 88 Israelis were died, and there was 2,329 Palestinians killed on the other side. That is 1 Israeli for 27, Palestinian. That is a very good exchange rate. What I'm saying is, what is the exchange rate for today Well, Speaker 0: I I Speaker 1: so you guys will be happy? Pete, that's my question. Speaker 0: Well, it's not me it's not me guys. I I don't I'm not on either side. Speaker 1: No. Not you. Like, when I say you guys, I say, like, the people on the other side of that. I know that you you don't think like that, Papir. You're one of the good guys, but let me tell you something. I mean, the reason that I'm I'm using this is that, I mean, I could I can't remember what happened in 2014, and there was no music festival, but there there must be something. I mean, they must do something. It is their fault. It has to be something. I mean, 2018, 300 Palestinian died. Who's counting? You know? The the so the thing is, what my question is, let's Fine. What is the exchange rate for human life today so we know, expect the future death of Palestinians, and we'd be happy to it? Speaker 0: My my response to that would be this, Bassem. I thought carefully about this, because I think it's very tricky for people like me to immerse ourselves into a conflict where we're not directly involved. And I thought carefully about what I feel about this. I feel that the scale of what Hamas did on October 7th Supersedes anything else I've seen in this conflict, really, ever. The the the savagery, the butchery, The slaughter of 1300 people, the shooting of babies, the kidnapping of grandma, and so on. So if if we can agree on that, which I think is inarguable, Then the question then becomes, again, about proportion. I I don't disagree that there's been a lot of bad stuff on both sides going back historically for decades. But if we agree that this was on a different level altogether, quite deliberately by Hamas, designed Absolutely. Designed to promote designed to pro no. Here's my question. Let me ask you a question. Uh-huh. And and the question was you you raised it earlier about proportion. I honestly don't know what the proportionate response is. I I honestly don't. I don't. I've been watching the airstrikes for Speaker 1: 2014. What's your question? Speaker 0: Well, I was asked well, I would ask you, if you were Israel, Speaker 1: What would you was Israel. Speaker 0: If you were Israel and that had happened to you, what would you think would be the appropriate way for the country to respond? Speaker 1: I would do exactly like Israel did, kill as many people as possible since the the the world is letting me do it. I mean, I I can do it because I can. You know? But the thing is, you know what? I agree with you. And you know what? I'm gonna be even ahead of you because I see the question coming. Do you condemn Hamas for the address? Yes. I condemn Hamas. I condemn Hamas is the source of all evil. There are reasons for envy. And you know what? Let's, for a minute, imagine a world without Hamas. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: What will this word look like? Let's give this word a name, and let's name this word the West Bank. Hamas Has absolutely no control that was back. And this is the beginning of this year. Only through August, 37 Palestinian kids were killed. No music festival, no paragliding, no Hamas. Since the occupation of the West Bank, 7,000 Palestinians were killed. No music festival, no paragliding, no Hameez. I can go on and on and on and on. Speaker 0: No. No. But you don't you don't need to because in a way in a way, you're preaching to the choir. I've I've followed this Crisis Speaker 1: is You're not pretty sure. So the the the thing is, like, I I understand you're saying Speaker 0: I know that what you're saying has validity. Of course. Speaker 1: Of course. Pierce. Pierce. By the way, Pierce. Pierce. Pierce. I am at a disadvantage here. I can hear you. I cannot see you. I am in a call, like, strophobic room, and so please cut cut me some slack, and don't interrupt me and interrupt my point. Sure. So because this this this has to be fair. Understand. Because if you want to only hear your opinion, I can just condemn Hamas and go home. I can do that. So So if you do you want to do that, or do you have a much more nuanced conversation? No. Speaker 0: I absolutely wanna have a nuanced conversation. I wasn't aware I was interrupting you. I thought it was definitely Speaker 1: I'm amazing. So let's I mean I mean, I would say I would say I really applaud Israel for doing one thing that no military force in the world does because I heard I heard Ben Shapiro, and I heard Ron DeSantis. And they said they said Israel is the only military force in the world that warned civilians Before bombing them. I mean, how fucking cute. That is so nice of them. Because with this logic, if Russian troops Started warning Ukrainians before bombing their houses. We're cool with Putin. Right? I mean, okay, Habibi, you have, warned them. Go
Saved - October 18, 2023 at 5:32 PM

@Wordsarewordz - Words are words

WATCH: Listen to this man speak about his wife, guy is cool as a cucumber. Is Shapiro still yelling at people? https://t.co/WCqNdKsqlt

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In this video, the speakers discuss the recent conflict between Israel and Palestine. The first speaker, who has family in Gaza, expresses concern for their safety and criticizes the repetitive cycle of violence. They mention an interview with Ben Shapiro, praising his intelligence and agreeing with his solution to annex Gaza and kill as many people as possible. The second speaker, the host, questions the first speaker's statements and clarifies what Ben Shapiro actually said. They discuss the concept of proportionate response and the difficulty of achieving peace in the region. The conversation becomes heated, with the first speaker criticizing Israel's actions and the second speaker defending Israel's right to self-defense. The discussion ends with the first speaker expressing frustration and the host thanking them for their participation.
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Speaker 0: To what happened on October 7th? Speaker 1: Oh, it was terrible, of course. I mean, we kind of get our news kind of also secondhand because, you know, my wife's family, they live in Gaza. They have cousins and uncles there, and, their house also was bombed. We haven't been able to communicate with them for the past 3 days, communication are lost, so we don't know actually what is the how is that how are they doing, but we're used to that. I mean, it's just like it's very repetitive, we're used that we're used to them being bombed every time I'm moving from 1 place to the other. You know, it's just like those Palestinians, they're very dramatic, ah, Israel killing us, but they never die. I mean, they always come back. You know? They they are very difficult to kill, very difficult people to kill. I know because I'm married to 1. I tried many times. Couldn't kill her. Speaker 0: I mean, there's a dark humor there and I understand why because No, Speaker 1: it's not dark humor. I try to get to her every time, but she uses our kids as human shields, I can never take her out. Speaker 0: Again, I understand the humor. But to be serious, Bassam, about this, Tonight, it was Speaker 1: I will be serious. No. I I I will be serious. I was watching your interview with Ben Shapiro, and I'll tell you one thing. Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 1: I think that Ben Shapiro is one of the smartest people whoever walked this earth, he's very, very smart. I follow him and I believe everything he said. And when he came out on your show, his solution was, and I quote, his solution was that the solution for this is for Israel to annex Gaza and to kill as many son of bitches as possible to make sure that this will never happen again. And anyone, anyone who call for a ceasefire will be a terrorist sympathizer. So God forbid, I don't want to be labeled as very sympathizer. So I agree with Ben Shapiro. I think we should kill as many son of bitches as possible. Speaker 0: Well, let me okay. But, Bassam, let me Speaker 1: See, so far, 3,500 people were killed, including 5,000 son of bitches in the bombing of the Baptist, hospital as we speak right now, 1 third of those 3,500 were children. So my question to Ben Shapiro is, how many more son of bitches do we need to kill? So Ben Shapiro is happy because it changes from 1 year. It changes from 1 no. Just I'm I'm I'm sorry that please, this is I'm I'm I'm I'm really at a disadvantage here. I'm looking at a camera. I don't see you. I can hear you on my Speaker 0: The reason I'm interrupting is Speaker 1: I think it might be I think Speaker 0: think you're conflating different interviews with Ben Shapiro. He didn't use the phrase sons of bitches were made. Let me play to you what he actually said Speaker 1: in my He did. He did. Go back go back to your interview. No. Speaker 0: He he didn't. That was another interview. But let me play what he said to me here. Speaker 2: Well, frankly, I don't believe in proportionate response to terrorism. I believe that the way that you Terrorism is with wildly disproportionate response. That doesn't mean in terms of targeting civilians. It means in terms of killing as many terrorists as humanly possible and allowing them to dictate The terms of engagement by hiding behind civilians in areas that that they're supposedly responsible for means that the only option for Israel is to surrender to Hamas's hatred of its own citizens, its willingness to use its own children as human shields. No no country worth its salt could ever do that. Speaker 0: Now that is significant substantively different to what you said he said. Right? He's talking there specifically about Speaker 1: the mass tariffs. I agree. I I I agree with him. The the thing is the question is what is a proportionate response because it has been different from 1 tier to another. So if you look to this graph, for example, this is the death of Israeli and Palestinians and it's changing from 1 year to year. It's like fluctuating like crypto. So my question is today, what is the going rate today true human lives. I mean 2014 was a great year for Ben Shapiro. 88 Israelis were died and there was 2,329 Palestinians killed on the other side. That is 1 Israeli for 27, Palestinian. That is a very good exchange rate. What I'm saying is, what is the exchange rate for today, so you guys will be happy. That's my question. Speaker 0: Well, it's not me, it's not me guys. I'm not on either side. Speaker 1: No, not you. Like when I say you guys, I say like people on the other side of that I know that you don't think like that, Pepe, you're one of the good guys, but let me tell you something, I mean, the reason that I'm using this is that, I mean, I could, I can't remember what happened in 2014 and there was no music festival, but there were, there must be something, I mean, they must do something, it is their fault, it has to be something. I mean 2018 300 Palestinian died, who's counting, you know? So the thing is what my question is let's find what is the exchange rate for human life today so we know, expect the future death of Palestinians, and we'll be happy to it. Speaker 0: My my response to that would be this, Bassem. I thought carefully about this, because I think it's very tricky for people like me to immerse ourselves into a conflict Well, we're not directly involved. And I thought carefully about what I feel about this. I feel that the scale of what Hamas did in October 7th supersedes anything else I've seen in this conflict, really, ever. The, the, the savagery, the butchery, The slaughter of 1300 people, the shooting of babies, the kidnapping of grandma, and so on. So if if we can agree on that, which I think is inarguable, Then the question then becomes, again, about proportion. I I don't disagree that there's been a lot of bad stuff on both sides going back historically for decades. But if we agree that this was on a different level altogether, quite deliberately by Hamas, designed to Absolutely. But designed to provoke now here's my question. Question Let me ask you a question. Uh-huh. And and the question was you you raised it earlier about proportion. I honestly don't know what the proportionate response is. I I honestly don't. I I don't. I've been watching the airstrikes before. Speaker 1: So what's your question? Speaker 0: What I was asked well, I would ask you, if you were Israel, my Speaker 1: my was Israel. If Speaker 0: you were Israel and that had happened to you, what would you think would be the appropriate way for the country to respond? Speaker 1: I would do exactly like Israel did, kill as many people as possible since the the the world is letting me do it. I mean, I I can do it because I can. You know but the thing is, you know what? I agree with you. And you know what? I'm going to be even ahead of you because I see the question coming. Do you condemn Hamas for the atrocity? Yes, I condemn Hamas. I condemn Hamas. I condemn Hamas is the source of all evil, there is reason for evil. And you know what? Let's for a minute imagine a world without Hamas. Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: What will this word look like? Let's give this word a name, and let's name this word the West Bank. Hamas has absolutely no control that was back. And this is the beginning of this year, only through August, 37 Palestinian kids were killed. No music festival, no paragliding, no Hamas. Since the occupation of the West Bank, 7,000 Palestinians were killed. No music festival, no paragliding, no Hamas. I can go on and on and on and on. Speaker 0: No. No. But you don't you don't need to because in a way in a way, you're Preaching to the choir. I've I've followed this crisis Speaker 1: Oh, no. You're not preaching so the the the thing is, like, I Speaker 0: Well, in the sense that I know I know that what you're saying Has validity, of course. Speaker 1: Of course. Pierce, Pierce, by the way, Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, I am at a disadvantage here. I can hear you. I cannot see you. I am in a claustrophobic room. Aunt so please cut cut me some slack, and don't interrupt me and interrupt my point. Sure. So, because this this is this has to be fair. Understood. Because if you want to only hear your opinion, I can just condemn Hamas and go home. I can do that. So if you do you want to do that, or do you have a much more nuanced conversation? Speaker 0: No. I absolutely wanna have a nuanced conversation. I wasn't aware I was interrupting you. Speaker 1: I thought it was something strange. So let's I mean I mean, I would say I would say I really applaud Israel for doing one thing that no military force in the world does. Because I heard I heard Ben Shapiro and I heard Ron DeSantis, and they said they said Israel is the only military force in the world that warns civilians before bombing them. I mean, how fucking cute. That is so nice of them. Because with this logic, if Russian troops started warning Ukrainians before bombing their houses, we're cool with Putin. Right? I mean, okay, Habibi, you have warned them, go invade, it's fine, you have done your job. I mean, the thing is and I understand all and I also heard Ben Shapiro talking about, about Human Shield. So you remember my wife's family, they live in Gaza, so I asked them, I told them, when Israel give you the nice warning, the cute warning, does Hamas force you to stay in your home so you can be bombed and use a as as human shield? You know, Hassan here, my my wife's, my wife's cousin, he's a he's a he's a loser, you know. He he told me, you know, when I asked him, does that happen? He told me, no. The lying son of a bitch lied to me. I told him, you don't understand. Ben Shapiro and Ron DeSantis keep saying that Israel warned you and Hamas asked you to keep to stay put. So I I I told you, he's a loser. He never kept a job. He even, like, failed in all of the interviews to become like a human shield. I I I would believe friendship you. Speaker 0: Let me ask you this, Patrick. Speaker 1: So let's go with that. No. No. No. No. Let's no. No. Let me But at some Speaker 0: point, I must be asking questions. Speaker 1: If we Speaker 0: It's not a long answer to Speaker 1: you, Bassett. If we agree if we agree that for the 14,000 casualties, I mean, who's counting? Our human shield, does that mean that every single one of those civilians was standing, obscuring a military target behind them? Because that's a lot of weapons. I mean, Hamas is packing. Speaker 0: No. Of course, it doesn't. Look, I you know, Speaker 1: it doesn't. So so so there is some collateral damage. Lots of collateral damage. Speaker 0: Yes. Speaker 1: It's fine. Yeah. You kill you kill some to save some and then kill some more. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Speaker 0: I would let me ask you this. Again, it comes back to proportionate response, when the world when the world decided it had to get rid of ISIS because of the appalling butchery they were carrying out, it did so by by also killing, very sadly, a lot of civilians along the way by doing air strikes against places with health. Speaker 1: But killing civilians are inevitable. Speaker 0: You said Speaker 1: that in the beginning. I put it once It's inevitable. Speaker 0: Yeah. But once Israel once Israel has decided Do they want to get rid of Hamas, and Hamas is embedded with civilian population? I'm very concerned about what's gonna happen next. I've written a column tonight saying, I remember the Iraq war, which I opposed. Right? I remember all this. So my question to you is, what would be what would you think would be an appropriate response by Israel to what happened? Speaker 1: Well well, these these are years of disproportionate responses of Israel. Did it solve the solution? Did it solve the problem? Did it did it work before, so it was or what what will be the surprise this time? What will be the twist that will make this work this time? What? What will be different this time? Seriously, I mean, like, this is only the last 15 years. I mean, because it's too too many p papers. I just got this. But what how how will this will be different? And the thing is it I am so glad in the introduction that you mentioned the Iraq war. I applaud you, Pierce, for saying that because you were honest about it. You said that spreading lies like WMDs made people look at those people as less of humans, And they would accept the death of a 1000000 Iraqi whether by sanctions or by invasion. Right? You are you you are a good man. This is amazing. And you know what is similar? Is when you spread the lies of 40 decapitated babies, although it was refuted. So what happens when people hear that, you know, killing babies is horrible. But when you say decapitated 40 babies, you are planting a certain image Speaker 0: has been Speaker 1: triggered in people's minds. Speaker 0: Who has said that? Who has said 40 Speaker 1: decapitate? Who is said that? Have you have repeat Speaker 0: No. No. I haven't. Speaker 1: What? I've never said that. You haven't said on your show 40 decapitated babies? Speaker 0: Never. Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro didn't say it? No. Ron DeSantis didn't say it? Speaker 0: Nobody has said it. Speaker 1: Okay. But, Peter No. Nobody said it? Speaker 0: No. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Okay. Maybe I am wrong. Decapitated. Hey. You're wrong. I've never said that. The thing what happened what yeah. What no. You're you're wrong. But, like, the thing is, when Iraq the thing is the same thing is happening in Iraq. Ben Shapiro once tweeted, not even about Gaza, about the West Bank, when Israel continued to build the illegal settlement. He said 2017. Israel likes to build things, and Arabs, not Palestine, not Hamas. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. Yeah. Speaker 0: I thought that was very, very good advice. Speaker 1: The Israeli def the Israeli defense the Israeli defense minister, he said, those are human animals. And the thing is Ben Shapiro should know better because, you know, long before the holocaust, before Jewish people were thrown in the gas chambers, the Nazi propaganda called them rats. Now as a human being, I would never accept that another human being being thrown in a into a gas chamber, but a rat kill a 10 kill a 1000 3,500. They are son of a bitch. They are human animals who live in open sewage and decapitate babies. And because of that propaganda, mister Morgan, that guy in Illinois, the 71 years old guy, he killed stabbing the 6 years old Palestinian kid in Illinois twenty ex times and you used to play with him. They used to be friends. But he went in marching into their apartment, stabbing his mother and killing him, shouting, all Muslims could die. Yeah. Took you 80 years to change one word from Jewish to Muslim. And then you transferred your guilt to us and took away our Speaker 0: Let me ask you let me Speaker 1: ask you a question. Deal sucks, man. Speaker 0: Let me ask you a question. Speaker 1: How Speaker 0: do we get from where we are now to peace? Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you need to change the perception. Nikki Haley, the American presidential candidate, said, we are in Israel in this because it's a fight between evil good and evil. Now if you already decided someone is good, he can do no evil. And if you decided someone is evil, it's good to kill them. Killing them is good. You see? And the the thing is it is it is not like something new. I mean, I I I look at history, and I see I'm sorry to say and I'm sorry to say that, but Westerners has always dealt like this with indigenous people. You first treat them like savages, you know, Native American First Nation Aboriginal, they're savages. Kill all the savages. And then when they're almost extinct, you start feeling sorry for them, you know, like animals. So maybe maybe the solution is that we kill as many Palestinians as possible so the few of them that remains do not bother you. And maybe, maybe, I'm Speaker 0: talking about for another Speaker 1: 100 years. You'll become a tree hugger. Speaker 0: I'm talking about Speaker 1: and he would campaign for for for Speaker 0: Keep talking about Westerners like me. Okay. So let me return the favor. Okay? Hamas is dedicated to the complete eradication I am not the spokesman for Hamas. Why do you why do you hate them? Speaker 1: I hate them. Husband What, Hamid? You want Go saw Mohammed. No. Speaker 0: No. You're missing my point. You're talking in a generalized way about people in the West You always talk about Arabs as savages. I don't. Speaker 1: No. No. No. I'm talking about America. I'm I'm about to talk about Western I Speaker 0: led the media campaign in this country against the Iraq war. Work you you I don't see people in the Middle East savages. But what I'm gonna say is Speaker 1: the good ones. Speaker 0: But what I'm Speaker 1: gonna say is talking about you. You're great. Speaker 0: No. No. It's not about me remembering. It's about you. Whole It's about the way Hamas behaved on October 7th was like savages, like a pack of savages. It was the worst atrocity Against Jewish people, it's the holocaust. There has to be Speaker 1: Of course. Speaker 0: There has to be a response. So my question Speaker 1: to you is eradicated. My question to you is not understanding Speaker 0: the history, Basted. What is the proportionate response? Speaker 1: But I don't know. But there's no Hamas in the West Bank, and they're still dying there. So what's your excuse? Speaker 0: I don't have any excuse. Speaker 1: The okay. What's what's your explanation? Sorry. Sorry. My earpiece went down. Speaker 0: My Listen. I don't make any pretense that this hasn't been a massive problem between Palestine and Israel going back to the mid forties. We all know this. Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pierce. Pierce. Pierce, listen. I'm not saying that you're making excuse, but if you are adopting a certain point of view, you have to at least defend it. I'm telling you, there is no Hamas in the West Bank. What is what is the excuse? Not your excuse. What is the excuse to kill those people? Speaker 0: Well, it's listen. This question of proportionality is one that Speaker 1: No. No. No. Answer my question. I've been answering your question. You answer mine. Speaker 0: It's actually not my job to answer your questions. Speaker 1: It's not. Okay. Not your not your job. I I agree with you. I'm Speaker 0: more interested in you, Who has family in Gaza, who's an Egyptian in that in the Middle East. Right? I'm more interested in what you have to say. Speaker 1: Okay, I'm telling you I'm telling you, I think Hamas is the problem. Okay? Now let's say, Hamas is removed. Let's ham yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I'm agreeing with everything about it. You want me to condemn Hamas? I will condemn Hamas, Hamas, Hassan. Everybody guys, say, wait. I can't hear you. The earpiece damn, okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I I don't Speaker 0: need that. Okay. Just go back. Is he there? You You go back. Speaker 1: You go back. Speaker 0: Can you hear me? Speaker 1: Okay. Go. Thank you, guys. Speaker 0: Can you hear me, Basel? Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Now I can hear you. Speaker 0: Okay. Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Can you hear okay. Yeah. Go. Let's say, for example, Hamas ceased to exist. Okay? Do you hear me? Yes. Yeah? Hamas ceased to exist today. Now right now, in Palestine, in West Bank and and, and Gaza, 20% of Palestinians go through Israeli prison system, whether imprisonment, whether, interrogation, whether torture. And the rest of them, they live a life of daily loss of land, of homes, of life and they are they are suffocated by this. So let me ask you company if you are a Palestinian living into these conditions for decades, would you would you sympathize with your oppressor or sympathize with the people who claim they resist them even if they are terrorists. Speaker 0: I have made I have made no secret that I think the conditions Palestinians have had to exist under Are completely unacceptable. I've said that for years. So the question then becomes, how do you forge peace between 2 warring Parts of that region who, for decades, have approached peace, in my view, with mutual sledgehammers, with no actual desire To have peace, and I think it comes down in the end to great leadership. And I I don't think there's great leadership. I don't think well, hang on. Let me make my point. I don't think there's great leadership on either side. Where is the Nelson Mandela figure here to come through all this? Speaker 1: Nelson n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n Nelson Mandela actually have criticized Israel for being a horrible state. All of the South African, prosecutors have actually criticized Israel. Speaker 0: My point is about how he how he responded to a country that was so divided is a template is a template for how you get to peace, isn't it? Speaker 1: I I I haven't met Nelson Mandela, so I wouldn't know. But, like, I I I there is a point there is a there is a very important point here, you know. I want to understand what is the logic of Israel carpet bombing Gaza. I mean, if there is a logic, if it is a good if this will make Israel safe, I want to hear the logic. So if they continue bombing, what are they hoping to achieve? Speaker 0: People's looking for We know what their stated aim is. Their stated aim is to eradicate Speaker 1: and Speaker 0: wipe out Hamas. They believe Hamas are living predominantly in northern Gaza. They also are aware they're living amongst civilians. So it's an incredibly difficult thing. As I've said in my blog, You know, it is very, very difficult to see how they Speaker 1: do this without massive collapse of damage. Speaker 0: So if Speaker 1: I can understand this correctly, basically Israel is doing this to pressure the Palestinian community in Gaza to turn against Hamas. Is that right? Speaker 0: I'm sure that's part of it. Yes. Speaker 1: That's part of it. So this is exactly what terrorist organizations do because terrorist organizations will have no chance beating the whole nation in battle. So they terrorize and they kill the civilians in order to spread fear and terror so they can turn against their government to change their policy or to resign. You have just compared Israel with ISIS. Speaker 0: No. I haven't. I don't I don't see any comparison between Speaker 1: It's going to be the headlines tomorrow. Piers Morgan. Israel is ISIS Speaker 0: Only amongst people who weren't listening. The comparison which is more apposite is ISIS and Hamas. They are both nihilistic Speaker 1: terror groups Speaker 0: intent on killing as many Jewish people and others as they can possibly kill. And you can't you can't you can't get views with people like that. Speaker 1: Absolutely. You know what? I'm gonna do something that nobody done on your television. You know what I'm gonna do? On your episode, I'm going to pretend that I'm an Israeli citizen. I'm gonna put my my myself in the in the place of an Israeli settler in the caputs. And I wanna speak to my prime minister, Netanyahu. Mhmm. Mr. Netanyahu, I have voted for you because you have promised us peace and prosperity and security. On the 7th October, those some of which is Hamas, they went into defense that is regularly heavy heavily guarded. Usually, if there's like a dove that comes close to it, it will be shot. Those people went in and they went for 6 hours before IDF forces was deployed killing our friends, our families, kidnapping our grandmothers and babies and went in. I want to ask you, mister prime minister, after you have fractured the Israeli community and you have fucked our courts, our supreme courts, what are you doing with the money being given to you, to the United States? Also, you are carpet bombing Gaza with absolutely no regard to our hostages, our people. I heard a rumor in the kibbutz that you're doing that as an you let that happen to, as an excuse to carpet bomb Gaza, so you push them into Sinai. And I didn't believe that that's not my Prime Minister, he can never do that. And then I watch an interview for Danny Ailon. He was your chief adviser. He was also the Israeli ambassador to the United States. And you know what he said, Mr. Prime Minister? He said that the solution for those Palestinians is to go into a vast land of Sinai and live into tent cities temporarily, temporarily, wink, wink until we build Gaza again and then we invite you back Yani family, that's who've seen this movie before. So Yani and I and when I saw this, I couldn't explain to my fellows in the kibbutz, how come our Israeli government is trading human lives for another piece of land? So as an Israeli citizen, I need to hold my Israeli government accountable. And as an American citizen, I want to know all of this money that we are giving to Israel. We're giving them $4,000,000,000 every year. Joe Biden said it's the best investment they ever, America ever done. Well, I, if I am in the in the place of Joe Biden, I would say, sorry, don't speak, I I would I would say, if I was Joe Biden, I would go down and whisper in the ears of Netanyahu and tell them I hate that investment. They haunt me, you know, like little finger in Game of Thrones. But the thing is the thing is this is the problem. Israel always victimizes itself, and I have never seen a victim putting their oppressor under siege and bombing them 247. Israel wants you to believe that they are the victim. Is dealing with Israel is so difficult. It's like being in a relationship with a narcissistic psychopath. He fucks you up, and then he makes you think it's your fault. Speaker 0: Alright. You said Speaker 1: Israel as Superman, But they're real homelander. Speaker 0: Bassim. Speaker 1: They are, like, they're Speaker 0: you they are shooting. They see that Speaker 1: happen, and they are annoyed with the splashes. Speaker 0: Bassim, I wanna say 2 things. 1, if you could just Slightly mounds your language. We are uncensored. But if you keep swearing Speaker 1: I'm very sorry. Speaker 0: I have to I apologize to viewers. You may be offended by that. Speaker 1: I apologize. Speaker 0: I apologize. Run high, so let's not get too bogged down about the odds whether I apologize to the viewers. Speaker 1: I apologize to the viewers for my language. Speaker 0: My second question Speaker 1: is this. Yeah. That's the sight of of dead civilians Speaker 0: After the break, we have the managing director of The Daily Wire, which is Ben Shapiro's company. We were gonna interview him On his own, but he's happy to come on and talk with you directly if you are prepared to stay. Speaker 1: Well, of course, I can stay, but again, I am I am in a disadvantage and I would like to have my space to respond. Speaker 0: Okay. We'll come back after the break. Speaker 1: I do. I I I I because because because here's the thing. Speaker 0: That's something we're we're gonna go to a break. We come back from the break, whether you and Jeremy my my my my Speaker 1: my I have news We're taking Speaker 0: a short break, Dustin. I'll be back. Speaker 1: Hi Jeremy, please say hello to Ben Shapiro and please tell him that I do think he is the smartest person to ever walk to earth. Thank you so much. So as response to Jeremy, I I agree with everything you said. I mean, what is disproportionate? I mean, that you he just used the, examples from Second World War in America showing that civilian casualty is, I mean, I heard his voice, he was very sad and he, as he was telling us, it is so inevitable to so many civilians, because it's something that we cannot avoid. I hear the sadness in his voice and I know that it's a very difficult decision to kill all of these civilians because that's for a higher cause and I understand, but my question I have 2 questions. The question is how can you justify the killing in the West Bank where Hamas does not exist and if the disproportionate response during the overall of these years have actually worked, what will be new this time that did not happen before? I just want to that that that was my question. Speaker 0: Okay. Okay. Speaker 1: So so now so now, if I ask the question, can I can I say something on my side? Speaker 0: A little bit personal? Bassem, with respect, I gave you half the show to have your side. Jeremy's had a lot less time. I'm gonna have to Speaker 1: Do you want me to leave? Speaker 0: Bassem, I'm gonna have to gonna have to let you go because we've been on there with you for 40 minutes. Speaker 1: Okay. Bye bye. But, listen Bye bye. Bye. I would Speaker 0: like to talk to you again, and thank you for joining the program. I appreciate it. Speaker 1: Oh, by by by the way, my my my wife's family is is alright, and they sent us a house. It's it's bombed. It's beautiful. It's it's gonna be a good, like, Halloween theme. So Well, Speaker 0: I'm very sorry for what family are going through in Gaza, and, I mean, I'm very surprised. Speaker 1: The way, I don't know I I don't know my I don't know him, by the way. I don't I haven't actually met them. They didn't even come to my wedding, they couldn't because they are stuck in Gaza. And she never saw them because, you know, Gaza is not a destination. Speaker 0: Bassem, as I say, I Speaker 1: We we hear their voices, Yana. It's, they they die. It's fine. Speaker 0: It's fine. Bassam, I wish your family all the very best. Thank you for joining me. I appreciate it. Speaker 1: No. I don't. Thank you.
Saved - October 17, 2023 at 12:22 PM

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BREAKING OLD NEWS: I find it insane how many people still don't know that the FBI contacted Mark Zuckerberg to limit the viewership of the NYPost Hunter Biden Laptop Story. Here is the Hunter Biden laptop compiled into a file. https://bidenlaptopreport.marcopolousa.org/report_viewer/index.html#p=1…

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During the election, there was controversy surrounding the Hunter Biden laptop story on Twitter. Facebook took a different approach, as they were warned by the FBI about potential Russian propaganda. They implemented a third-party fact-checking program to determine if the information was false. While the investigation was ongoing, the distribution of the story on Facebook was decreased, but people were still allowed to share and consume it. The ranking in the News Feed was slightly lower, resulting in fewer people seeing it. However, many individuals were still able to share the story.
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Speaker 0: How do you guys handle things when they're a a big news item that's controversial? Like, there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story, the New York Post. Yeah. So you guys censored that as well? Speaker 1: So we took a different path than Twitter. I mean, basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us, Some some folks on our team, it was like, hey. Just so you know, like, you should be on high alert. There was we we thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 Seen election, we have it on notice that, basically, there's about to be some kind of dump of of, that's similar to that. So just be vigilant. So our protocol is different from Twitter's. What Twitter did is they said you can't share this at all. We didn't do that. What what we do is we have, if something is reported to us as potentially, misinformation, important misinformation, We we also this is third party fact checking program because we don't wanna be deciding what's true and false. And for the I think it was 5 or 7 days when it was basically being, being determined whether it was false, The distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people were still allowed to share it. So you could still share it. You could still consume it. Speaker 0: Do I say the distribution has decreased? Speaker 1: It it got Jared, Speaker 0: how does that work? Speaker 1: Basically, the ranking in News Feed was a little bit less. So fewer people saw it than would have otherwise. So it definitely By what percentage? I I don't know off the top of my head. But it's it's it's meaningful. But, I mean but, basically, a, a lot of people are still able to share
Saved - October 16, 2023 at 8:10 PM

@Wordsarewordz - Words are words

Quite clear there's been a lot of hatred there for a LONG time. & They clearly start em young, sad.

Saved - October 15, 2023 at 10:28 PM

@Wordsarewordz - Words are words

Helen Thomas (1920 – 2013) American journalist and a long serving member of the White House press corps. A rabbi at a Jewish heritage day celebration, held on the White House lawn, asked Thomas if she had any comments on Israel:

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Speaker 0 asks for comments on Israel, and someone responds by saying that Israel should leave Palestine. Another person points out that the people in Palestine are occupied and it is their land. The question is raised about where they should go, and someone suggests they go back to Poland and Germany. Another person adds that they should go back to America and other places as well.
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Speaker 0: Any comments on Israel? We're asking everybody today. Any comments on Israel? The hell out of Palestine. Oh, any better commentary. Hell is wild. Remember, these people are occupied, and it's their land, not German. Not forward. So where should they go? What should they do? They go home. Where's the home? Poland. So the Jews Germany. Just go back to Poland and Germany? And and America and everywhere else.
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