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The video discusses the development of the COVID vaccine through Operation Warp Speed and the issue of vaccine liability. The program protected drug companies from lawsuits over vaccine injuries, which critics argue creates a bureaucratic compensation system. The speaker believes that the liability protection should be repealed, along with other forms of crony capitalism. They emphasize the importance of free speech and open debate in times of emergency. The speaker also calls for an end to lobbying and a separation between capitalism and democracy. They propose a 10-year ban on government officials joining companies they previously worked with. The video ends with a mention of Alabama and a final question about the vaccine.
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Speaker 0: Market place begins. That's crony capitalism, and that's the answer.
Speaker 1: Okay. Through Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration and private industry developed a COVID vaccine in record time. Vaccine. The Trump administration and private industry developed a COVID vaccine in record time. Vaccine.
The program protected the drug companies from virtually all lawsuits over vaccine injuries. The government has a program to compensate for such harm, but critics say it is a black hole of bureaucracy. 12,000 claims filed, 10% decided, only 8 payouts so far in a forum with no right to counsel, no hearings, no appeals. Mister Trump says he's very proud of warp speed. Should he be?
Speaker 0: Vaccine. Well, this question specifically on liability goes back to actually Reagan. And Reagan is a president who I admire. Many of us do. I think that vaccine.
Reviving that spirit is in many ways gonna be good for this country in so many ways, but one of the areas where he erred was this special form of lobbying to say that one kind of manufacturer, vaccine. A vaccine manufacturer cannot be sued for their product liability. So I have pledged it is part of my legislative agenda. We will repeal that, vaccine. Just like we will repeal every other form of crony capitalism, people who have been harmed by those vaccines deserve accountability.
They cannot be forgotten Americans. And I think one of the top lessons we learned from that COVID pandemic is that free speech in this country is most important in those alleged times of emergency. If we had been allowed to openly debate the merits of those vaccines, they would have been never mandated in the way that they were. And in general, I don't think that we should want capitalism and democracy to share the same bed anymore. It's time for a clean divorce.
Let companies be companies, but I don't like the crony capitalism. Vaccine. This dates back a long time in both parties, and I think that we need to end the lobbying. And I personally believe that if you have been working in the government, you should not lobby that government for 10 years. Vaccine.
If you have been a government elected official doing deals with companies, be they Boeing or be they pharmaceutical companies, you should not join the board of that company for 10 years after. Vaccine. The former chairman of the FDA, the leader commissioner of the FDA ended up on the board of Pfizer. Nikki Haley did deals with Boeing, ends up on the board of Boeing. I don't care if it's a Republican or a Democrat.
Vaccine. We need some basic principles that end the corruption in government. That's how we got the health insurance exemptions. That's how we got Pharmaceutical product liability exemption to end the corruption. We need vaccine.
Speaker 2: Alabama. Final question before vaccine. Statements, and we wanna get you all in. So we're gonna give you 45 seconds for this last one. Governor Christie, we're gonna start with you.
Vaccine.
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Ken Griffin, a Florida resident and GOP donor, played a significant role in funding COVID-19 solutions. He supported vaccine development efforts and research in the early months of the pandemic. Griffin's contributions helped immunize millions of Americans faster than expected. He has also been a major donor to Republican candidates, including Governor DeSantis. Notably, DeSantis argued that pharmaceutical companies had a financial interest in promoting vaccine effectiveness. Despite this, Griffin's involvement was not mentioned.
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🤯@VivekGRamaswamy I found the missing minutes 😱 Did the GOP fear offending 💵Ken Griffin? 🗣️“...earliest private funders of international vaccine development efforts and supported important research in the early months of the pandemic across academic and medical institutions"
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The video discusses the development of the COVID vaccine through Operation Warp Speed and the issue of liability for vaccine injuries. The program protected drug companies from lawsuits, but critics argue that the compensation program is bureaucratic and lacks accountability. The speaker believes that the special protection for vaccine manufacturers should be repealed, along with other forms of crony capitalism. They emphasize the importance of free speech and open debate in making decisions about vaccines. The speaker also calls for an end to government officials joining the boards of companies they previously dealt with. They highlight the need to address corruption in government to ensure accountability. The video ends with a mention of Alabama and a final question about vaccines.
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Speaker 0: Market place begins. That's crony capitalism, and that's the answer.
Speaker 1: Okay. Through Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration and private industry developed a COVID vaccine in record time. Vaccine. The Trump administration and private industry developed a COVID vaccine in record time. Vaccine.
The program protected the drug companies from virtually all lawsuits over vaccine injuries. The government has a program to compensate for such harm, but critics say it is a black hole of bureaucracy. 12,000 claims filed, 10% decided, only 8 payouts so far in a forum with no right to counsel, no hearings, no appeals. Mister Trump says he's very proud of warp speed. Should he be?
Speaker 0: Vaccine. Well, this question specifically on liability goes back to actually Reagan. And Reagan is a president who I admire. Many of us do. I think that vaccine.
Reviving that spirit is in many ways gonna be good for this country in so many ways, but one of the areas where he erred was this special form of lobbying to say that one kind of manufacturer, vaccine. A vaccine manufacturer cannot be sued for their product liability. So I have pledged it is part of my legislative agenda. We will repeal that, vaccine. Just like we will repeal every other form of crony capitalism, people who have been harmed by those vaccines deserve accountability.
They cannot be forgotten Americans. And I think one of the top lessons we learned from that COVID pandemic is that free speech in this country is most important in those alleged times of emergency. If we had been allowed to openly debate the merits of those vaccines, they would have been never mandated in the way that they were. And in general, I don't think that we should want capitalism and democracy to share the same bed anymore. It's time for a clean divorce.
Let companies be companies, but I don't like the crony capitalism. Vaccine. This dates back a long time in both parties, and I think that we need to end the lobbying. And I personally believe that if you have been working in the government, you should not lobby that government for 10 years. Vaccine.
If you have been a government elected official doing deals with companies, be they Boeing or be they pharmaceutical companies, you should not join the board of that company for 10 years after. Vaccine. The former chairman of the FDA, the leader commissioner of the FDA ended up on the board of Pfizer. Nikki Haley did deals with Boeing, ends up on the board of Boeing. I don't care if it's a Republican or a Democrat.
Vaccine. We need some basic principles that end the corruption in government. That's how we got the health insurance exemptions. That's how we got Pharmaceutical product liability exemption to end the corruption. We need vaccine.
Speaker 2: Alabama. Final question before vaccine. Statements, and we wanna get you all in. So we're gonna give you 45 seconds for this last one. Governor Christie, we're gonna start with you.
Vaccine.
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🧐 Ken Griffin of Citadel capital, Florida resident and mega GOP donor “I’m proud of how my partners at Citadel and I moved quickly and with conviction to find and fund solutions during the early days of COVID-19,” “Because of the way public, private, academic and philanthropic sectors came together, we were able to immunize tens of millions of Americans faster than anyone thought possible.” https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/2022-simon-devos-prize-winner-ken-griffin-delivers-real-impact-through-philanthropy/
2022 Simon-DeVos Prize Winner Ken Griffin Delivers “Real Impact” Through Philanthropy
During the chaotic early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, Kenneth C. Griffin, founder of the global alternative investment firm Citadel, stepped up to tackle an urgent problem. He had just learned that one of his colleagues and her family were stuck in Wuhan, China, ground zero for an infectious disease sweeping across the globe.
philanthropyroundtable.org
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🧐 “He has given nearly $60 million to federal Republican candidates and campaigns this election cycle (2022) That puts Griffin behind just liberal billionaire George Soros, who’s given more than $128 million to Democrats” “Griffin was the leading donor to DeSantis’ (gubernatorial) reelection campaign this cycle, dropping $5 million.” https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/06/gop-megadonor-desantis-24-ken-griffin-00065274
GOP megadonor: I’m ready to back DeSantis for president in ’24
Billionaire CEO Ken Griffin is a bit tired of Donald Trump. "For a litany of reasons, I think it’s time to move on to the next generation,” he said in an interview.
politico.com
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🧐 “DeSantis’ request argues that pharmaceutical companies had a financial interest in creating a climate in which people believed that getting a coronavirus vaccine would ensure they couldn’t spread the virus to others.” 🧐 Doesn’t mention Ken Griffin? https://apnews.com/article/ron-desantis-health-florida-covid-f90dbf672338461457f6c30633398e90
Florida high court OKs grand jury probe of COVID-19 vaccines
The Florida Supreme Court will convene a grand jury at Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis' request to investigate any wrongdoing with respect to the COVID-19 vaccines.
apnews.com
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VivekGRamaswamy debunks smears and clarifies his stance on Trump's election and Jan 6. He also addresses the TPP trade agreement and shares his policies on legal and illegal immigration. Watch the three-part clip to hear his articulate and forceful responses.
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🍿🥤 Watch this clip its part 1 of 3 🤥Debunking the smears on @VivekGRamaswamy (and how Vivek articulately, elegantly and forcefully withstands the linguistic battling bamboozlement) 🧐 #1 What did Vivek say about Trump's election and Jan6
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The speaker discusses a passage from a book that was taken out of context on Twitter. They clarify that the passage was a satirical reference to Stacey Abrams, not Donald Trump. They emphasize that their books are not candidate books but rather introspective works. They believe that the 2020 election was rigged by Big Tech and that censorship played a role in the events of January 6th. They express a desire for real disagreements based on the full context of their statements rather than circulating out-of-context passages. The other speaker admits to not reading the full chapter and acknowledges the importance of a documentary on election fraud.
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Speaker 0: And then I started to dig a little deeper on, you know, Twitter, and I came across some passages from your book. And, I I don't know which book it is. It's one of the 2, but it talks about, January 6, and it says, It was a dark day for democracy. The loser of the last election refused to concede the race, claimed the election was stolen, raised 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars from loyal supporters and is considering running for executive office. I'm referring, of course, to Donald Trump.
Do you think that the 2020 election was fair? Do you think that Joe Biden got the most votes in American history? Or do you think 2020 was rigged?
Speaker 1: So, I'll answer that. I think 2020 was rigged specifically by Big Tech, but I just want to say something at the outset because this is the 1st time we're meeting, is that I'm actually I've actually been a long time fan and of your tweets particularly. And I understand that I did a little bit come out of nowhere. Right. I was in the business world.
I had no public footprint at all until 2020 and then really 2021 when I stepped down From my job as a CEO. So I invite the scrutiny. Some of it's bad faith, but then I take someone like you and I understand your Hart is actually in this for the country as opposed to some of the other trolls. And so that's why I'm engaging with this directly. So let me be really clear about something.
I've written 3 books in the last 18 months. That passage has now been floating around Twitter. I'd encourage you to read the book or at least even the chapter sure that that came from. Those lines were tongue in cheek in part because those were the opening words of the chapter. It was a dark day for democracy.
The winner refused to concede the election. Raised 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars, those exact words. I'm referring to, of course, Stacey Abrams. That was literally the opening paragraph of that chapter, And it turned out that those words were literally borrowed from a description of somebody else criticizing Donald Trump that I then cut and pasted. So look.
I I have detailed messaging on all of this, but you read that chapter and you read that book, it's easy for someone to airlift something out of Nation of Victims without reading the whole book. It was literally a satirical chapter that started with those words that someone had used against Donald Trump with Stacey Abrams as the punch line. And here's the thing about the books I've written. I wasn't writing them with any intention of running for president. Right.
And so otherwise, you'd read them and can this be misquoted? No. These are, if I may say so myself, I would say intellectual books. These are not candidate books. Okay.
These are books that were written in part of a career, 3 books in 20 months. Candace, and probably you, I don't know if you've written books as well, understand what it takes to write 1. I've written 3, and they're not Candidate books are deeply introspective books, so much so that, actually, even some of the things that I said in Woke Inc, I've moved a little bit from today. What did I say in that book? And I stand by it today.
2 things that I think are really important points. The 2020 election was stolen principally by big tech. The Google search algorithms that suppressed actual stories that you could have read on Donald Trump. Hunter Biden laptop story Suppressed on the eve of an election, there's definitive data showing that that actually would have changed the outcome of the election. I personally find that data, Just like in terms of the raw numbers, even stronger than the data that's yet been presented on ballot fraud, though I think both existed.
I've been very clear about where I stand on ballot fraud. Single day voting, election day as holiday, has to be paper ballots, And by the way, government issued ID matching the voter file. But I think what's more important to understand as well, and I talk about this in this book, is 2016 was actually even the other election that was stolen from Donald Trump, the election that he supposedly won, where he wasn't allowed to govern for those 4 years. And so the only thing I would say is there will be a lot of things that you and I may have slightly different points of view on. I think this will exist.
But all I'll ask is I know you're an intellectual as well. Your guy who cares about the country read the books, not some sort of screenshot from Twitter of a purposefully airlifted passage. And about January 6th, what Candace mentioned, and I saw this in one of your tweets too, and I just wanna address this, Rogan, just so you're aware. Somebody floated a passage where I said what Trump did that day was reprehensible on January 6th. I said this shortly thereafter.
And, again, that's another airlift. Read what it was. That wasn't a tweet from me. That was a reply to somebody else's tweet in response to a Wall Street Journal Piece that I wrote 2 days after January 6th during the days after January 6th, I wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal that said that censorship systematic censorship in this country was the cause of January 6th, and in particular, it was government using tech companies to silence speech. And I said that that would be a friendly parley compared to what's to come.
Somebody then asked me, do you excuse what Donald Trump did on that day? And I wanted to be clear, and it's something I'm saying today too, is that, no, I would not have handled January 6th in the same way as Donald Trump, and that's a fact. And maybe you and I can disagree on that. I said it then. I stand by it today.
But just like I said in the days after January 6th, which caused multiple advisers to my company to resign, which caused me To face great personal cost in the seat that I was in as a biotech CEO, that's the same thing I'm saying today. And so that's a long way of saying we may still have our disagreements, But I'd love to have those disagreements with the full context of what I've said rather than airlifting passages. I'm not accusing you of doing that, but that's what I've seen circulating a lot. And let's have real disagreements instead of fake ones. That's all I would say.
Speaker 2: So, Vivek, I'm just gonna jump in here because I did not know, obviously, what you were going to say as an answer to that. And Guilty as charge when I saw the things being passed around, I actually thought maybe, yeah, maybe he actually did say this and I will completely own the fact that I did not read it and I cannot defend I I cannot further offend it because, obviously, what you're saying in defense makes sense that it was airlifted. Rogan, did you actually read the full chapter either, or did you also see what was Circulating. Okay. So what's funny about that, as as a Trump supporter
Speaker 0: It's not my main point. Right? So let me preface by saying I respect Vivek for coming on and having this discussion knowing that I'm a very vocal critic. My main point is that Vivek does not believe there is actual election fraud with the ballots, that he can watch something like 2,000 mules. Did you see 2,000 mules, Vivek?
Speaker 1: I've seen part of it. I have to admit. I did not finish it, but I
Speaker 0: I I highly recommend you go watch it because it's probably one of the most important documentaries in recent history that showed massive systemic election fraud across this country. And to me, as a as a vocal supporter and and just a voice for the MAGA
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🍿🥤 Watch this clip its part 2 of 3 🤥 Debunking the smears on @VivekGRamaswamy (and how Vivek articulately, elegantly and forcefully withstands the linguistic battling bamboozlement) 🧐 #2 Did Vivek say he would re-enter the TPP trade agreement?
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Vivek expresses his view on the importance of independence from China and the need for trade agreements with countries like Japan, South Korea, India, Vietnam, and Australia. He believes that bilateral trade agreements would be the best approach, as multilateral agreements come with baggage like climate change issues. He mentions the US Mexico Canada Agreement as an example of reentering a trade agreement on fairer terms. Rogan accuses Vivek of flip-flopping on his stance regarding the TPP, but Vivek clarifies that he is being more precise and emphasizes the importance of bilateral trade agreements in the context of declaring independence from China.
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Speaker 0: Vivek, correct me if I'm wrong, but you did state that you thought it was a mistake for us to have pulled out of the TPP and I think actually, let me not think anything. Why don't you explain your reasons for why that is?
Speaker 1: Yes. I don't want to be defensive and say the same thing. I think Was maybe pulled out of context. I also and a guy who speaks very freely, and so I will accept responsibility if I wasn't clear. But here is my actual view.
Okay? I am I am very serious about independence from China. That's the I think the top foreign policy objective. We cannot be dependent On our enemy for our modern way of life. And I as much as I would wish for us to immediately snap a finger and wave a magic wand To have all of those supply chains and all of those trade agreements immediately eviscerated and come back to the United States to be on shored.
I just do not think that is going to happen, but for a few years. I think it's gonna take at least a minimum a few years to get there. And so in the meantime, if we're really serious about cutting the cord, if we're really serious about declaring independence, As I believe we must vis a vis China, then I think it will require trade agreements with Japan, South Korea, India, Vietnam, Australia, and otherwise. Let me be very clear about where I what I stand on what those should look like. And here In quick conversations, I haven't been as clear.
But I think at best those should be bilateral trade agreements. What happens with these multilateral trade agreements Is you do get a lot of baggage around climate change. So if I have the choice between if you had it if Trump was gonna exit the TPP and we're serious about getting Independent of China. I think the best answer is to enter bilateral trade agreements on our own terms with each of them. Now I think that I believe using the silver lining of Trump having exited the TPP to reenter bilateral trade agreements.
As we've done, by the way, we switched from NAFTA to the to the US Mexico or the US master yeah. The Mexico Canada agreement, the MCA, Which actually does have the effect of bringing up wages in Mexico. So this shows that we can actually reenter trade agreements Not just by severing them, but on fairer terms that do allow US companies to compete because wages have risen In Mexico post NAFTA, now in the MCA. And I think we can at least borrow from those same principles with Japan, South Korea, And others which don't play by the same set of rules, but can, but I believe are a necessary part of a true and serious strategy to declare independence from China, and I am very curious about that.
Speaker 0: Rogan, what do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's effectively completely flip flopping from what he said on the Twitter space with Elon Musk a week and a half ago. He said Trump getting us out of the TPP was a bad move, and he would reenter us into the TPP. He would try and make Certain different arrangements to make it better, but he effectively wanted to reenter into Obama's TPP that Trump Shut down, which was a multilateral trade agreement. I agree on bilateral, but it sounds like he's flip flopping. We have the recording.
I sent it to you, Candace.
Speaker 1: I don't understand you have it. I'm not flip flopping. Backtrack. I'm not flip flopping, but I am being more precise. I am being more precise.
Actually, I'll tell you who called me right afterwards is Mike Lee, a good, you know, friend in the senate, etcetera. As he said, listen up. I think that your point on China is correct, but you gotta be more precise in talking about the importance of bilateral. And the way I talking about it. Again, this is a little bit airlifted.
This was in the context of everywhere I've talked about this, declaring independence from China.
Speaker 2: I don't think Can I play the clip? It's 20 seconds. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And I and I think you're gonna you're gonna cite my imprecision. Go for it.
Speaker 2: But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you exactly where I am.
Speaker 2: This is Twitter space with Elon from a week and a half ago.
Speaker 1: By the way, a policy that I think is also really important that goes straight along with it is reentering The Pacific trade relationships around the rest of the rim of the Pacific. The CPTP rest
Speaker 0: of the
Speaker 1: rim. Re
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit different than What you know, the the course of action taken by Trump and exiting the TPP. I think that was actually maybe a court that makes more sense for the by the way So I think that I can use the leverage of the fact that we did exit it to be able to say, alright. Here's what we need done differently in a number of the countries from Japan on down to be able to say here's how we reenter that on fairer terms. And so that's what I'd like to see
Speaker 0: say you could reenter it and renegotiate it.
Speaker 1: Trade relations. So, Rogan, I I actually I'm glad you played it. When I said what, that goes lighter right along with it. What is it? Declaring independence from China.
It's my view, and I think Trump in a second term would, I hope do this as well. PPP is totally gonna
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: China, though. I know. Exactly.
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🔥 Watch this clip its part 3 of 3 🤥 Debunking the smears on @VivekGRamaswamy 🧐 What are Vivek's policies on legal & illegal immigration?
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The speaker discusses their views on high-skilled immigration. They clarify that they support merit-based immigration and define merit as the ability to make skills-based contributions to the country and having civic commitments. They express opposition to chain migration and the H1B program, and advocate for a civics test before granting visas. They emphasize the importance of national identity and the need to address illegal immigration. They reject amnesty and propose relocating families as a whole unit to their country of origin. They also support militarizing the southern border and making English the national language. They argue that a cap on legal immigration is not necessary, as long as the criteria for merit and civic commitments are met.
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Speaker 0: Let's talk about the high skilled immigrants. This was a big one. Right? And, actually, I have not seen the clip of you saying it, so I'm fully relying on Rogan here. But you allegedly said, Rogan, and please correct me if I'm wrong Rogan, jump right in, that you think that we should have as much immigration as possible, like no limit on immigration outside of,
Speaker 1: you know,
Speaker 0: making sure that they're high skilled. Do do you wanna talk a little bit more about that?
Speaker 1: I'm also happy to have you quote exactly what I said here, because I wanna make sure it's not misquoted, or I can just tell you right now what my position is, have Whichever you prefer.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: I I can I can also just tell
Speaker 2: you a little bit about the idea? I have the quote.
Speaker 1: I Yep.
Speaker 2: I have the quote. So it's in a Breitbart article. It was, somewhat recent, I mean, been said. I actually fully agree with that. And I And one of the things where I think the Republican Party needs to define where we actually stand, there is an anti legal immigration current I among voters.
I'm going to be on the debate stage in a month. And if anybody has any qualms with this, I think I'm going to have a real problem with that I Because merit based immigration is one of the fixes to economic growth in this country, effectively saying that we need more high skilled immigrants had To come
Speaker 1: in, take American just say what I said.
Speaker 2: Hate to create more profits for capitalism.
Speaker 1: The latter part of that's not what I said though, Rogan. Have Rogan, I just wanna be really fair. I think you mixed a quote with a lot of editorializing you added in the end. So so I I'm not reading the article, but just be fair and say what I actually said because I Up to when you started going off on your own, that's consistent with views that I have and then you started saying things that are entirely inconsistent with views that I have.
Speaker 0: So, Rogen, do you wanna just need just a quotation of what they said when they said.
Speaker 1: It's a little unfair. Can I tell
Speaker 2: you what my views on? Mixing up my personal editorial. I There is an anti legal immigration current, and then it says in brackets, mood among voters I I'm going to be on the debate stage in a month. And if anybody has any qualms with this, I think I'm gonna have a real problem with that I Because merit based immigration is one of the fixes to economic growth in this country. End quote.
Sure.
Speaker 1: So had So let me explain my position on immigration policy, if I may. Okay? Yes. The North Star and I think this I'll start with where we definitely agree, and then I'll go to where we may disagree, and we may we may not, actually, but let's find out. I believe the purpose of immigration policy to state the obvious.
I Everybody should agree with this. It is so obvious, but I'm gonna say it anyway. The purpose of our legal immigration policy should be to advance the interests have citizens in this country to advance the interests of the homeland. That should be the purpose of any country's immigration policy, ours included. Because we vehemently probably agree on illegal immigration.
I'm not gonna spend too much time on that. I favor militarizing the southern border. Have My favorite not just building the wall, but literally relocating the US military there, stop funding for sanctuary cities, cut foreign aid to Mexico, Guatemala, Nicaragua, and so on until they've fixed have Their southern border, but I suspect we agree there and so we don't need to dwell on the illegal immigration issue. Though militarizing the southern border, I think I'm about as have Both legally and constitutionally I support that. For the record.
It gets. Yes. And and for the record also, I'm the 1st candidate who has offered a legal and constitutional basis have To go that far and I stand by it and I've said I would do it by March 31, 2025. That's really important. Now let's go had to legal immigration where we may, I'm not sure, but we may have some daylight between us.
So what I've said is and I've said this in countless settings. I favor merit based immigration, but I have a very clear definition of what merit means. To borrow an expression I've used through this campaign, does that mean a bunch of have Tech bros in Silicon Valley. No it does not. We have a massive diverse set of skills needs in this country.
And had So it's not just a bunch more tech people going and sit in Silicon Valley. I would gut the H1B program, which is a disaster. Have A, it's a lottery. B, it's not meritocratic. C, it's like in a form of indentured servitude that effectively is a lobbying protection to the companies who get to keep the immigrant had Who comes over, but they can't even work for a different company.
That's a product of crony capitalism of lobbying. I would gut that program. Had But here's what I do think merit means. Merit means 2 things. Do you have an ability to make skills based contributions to this country?
Had And do you also have civic commitments to this country? What does that mean? I would take the citizenship test from the back end of being a citizen. Have Move that to the front end before somebody even gets a visa to enter this country. You gotta know something about that country.
This is consistent with what I think of as a hardcore nationalist position of mine that every high school student who graduates from high school should have to pass that same test. I I think part of the problem of why we have deep ingratitude in this country, ingratitude from the Rashida Tlaibs and the Ilhan Omars who come here as immigrants, But frankly, it's an ingratitude that grates on me if somebody grew up on the upper east side of Manhattan, 5th generation, that hates this country equally as Rashida Tlaib and Elan Omar have Or AOC for that matter is the same problem. People don't know something about that country. That's why I favor making English the national language. I think the US is a country founded on ideals, but you have to have a common language to express those ideals with one another.
Now I don't favor a hard, like there's this Tom Cotton bill and I love Tom Cotton. I don't support the have absolute number cap because I think that's sloppy. I think that we have to be much more precise about what we're actually solving for. I I'm solving certainly for a revival of national identity. That's what this whole campaign is about.
That's what my 1st and second term in office have will be all about. But I think that we have to solve for that national identity grounded in who we are. Revive civic duty. Had Revive actual civic knowledge about this country. Stop viewing the US as just an economic zone.
We're not just that. We're a team of citizens. We're not just a nation of immigrants. Had As a kid of immigrants, I go out of my way to say this all the time. We're not just a nation of immigrants.
We're a nation of settlers. Yes. I am one of those settlers in this country. And I understand that some people may say, oh, you've only been here for 1 generation where I've been here for 6. Well, I disagree with you because I am as deeply rooted in this country.
You try to Hate me, you'll have to run through me to try. I am as deeply rooted in this country more so than many people with ingratitude who take it 7 generations in. So that may be where we have a debate and let's smoke that out because I do think that current exists and you're right, it bothers me, but I'm an American nationalist and the fact that I'm first had shouldn't stop me from feeling that way. But on policy, I suspect there's not a ton of daylight between us, but that at least explains to you what my position actually is.
Speaker 0: Why no cap, Vivek? Why do you think no cap on legal immigration? I think it's a fair question.
Speaker 1: Yep. That was my question as well. I So it's like the way I think about the debate about military spending. Is it more or less? No, it's the right kind.
Same thing with respect to immigration. Had So here's a problem that I think I suspect you guys may agree with me on. It's something I've been vocal on for a long time. Way too much immigration is just chain based migration. Had People bringing their parents or other people who aren't really making contributions but may even contribute costs to this country.
I I am all in on ending that. But it is a hard fact today that we do have more jobs in this country than we do have people. Had Talk to any small business. Talk to any large business. It's just a fact that that's an impediment to economic growth.
And so if there are people, Here's my view on it. And the problem with the 400,000 or the 200,000 or whatever number we pick is, I think there's a version of the world where we may want less than that. Had But if there's a version of the world where there's more than that too who fit the criteria of making honest commitments to this country, not coming here to be an immigrant, had Coming here to be a settler. Coming here to be a settler who knows more about this country and the constitution and our language and our laws have Then many people who are 3rd or 4th generation born into this country. If those conditions are met, then I have no problem with those people coming to this country.
And what we may find out is that it's fewer than the cap that actually meet that description. It may be more than the cap, but I just think it's a sloppy, low resolution way of doing it have Versus asking ourselves, what do we care about? We have an erosion of our national identity. No doubt about it. Have Big part of that is an invasion.
Literally now, an armed invasion. Just look at the pictures from yesterday across our southern border. That's a problem. It's why I'm a hardliner. It's also why I'm a hardliner on bringing the civics test to the visa, got the h one b program, end chain migration, which is most have Of the legal immigration that's useless that we're seeing today is just family members coming over.
No. I don't want any of that. I think we need to put an end to it. Had Asylum. Forget about it.
Humanitarianism is not the goal of immigration policy. So I go back to that first principle. We all agree on this, I think. Had The purpose of any nation's immigration policy, including ours, should be what advances the interests of the homeland. That's the question.
Have Now we can disagree about specific policies of which one actually advances American interest, but that's where I'm at is that I think that there are some ways in which Actually, there are kinds of merit based legal immigration that can advance the interests of the homeland. The way we're doing it today absolutely does not and that's what I would change.
Speaker 0: Okay, so people at home can take that or leave that, that's where you stand. Maybe some years it'll be more immigration, some years it'll be fewer immigrants that are coming into the country but you don't think that a cap is the right solve to to it. You said it's low resolution.
Speaker 1: Yes. Illegal zero and I'm also on illegal immigration. I just want to be clear about this. I have been clear since day 1. I'm dead set against amnesty.
I will never break up families, but we will relocate families as entire units to the countries of origin because I do see that have As a threat to our rule of law and a threat to our national identity as well. So everything, Candace, you just said applies to strictly even just have True merit and civic based legal immigration.
Speaker 2: Okay. Candace, could I have just
Speaker 0: Absolutely, Rogan. Anytime you wanna pop in. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, I think it is a fair criticism when people say you want unlimited merit based immigration, you say no cap that those are, have Symbiotic positions or or criticisms. And I think what you should know on behalf of I The base on behalf of American middle class voters, you know, you talk about what's best for America. Are you talking about the people that own companies and stock or the middle class Who is watching their border be invaded by millions of illegal aliens over the past couple years, watching our great cities be have Flooded people sleeping on the streets in New York City, in Boston, in Portland, in LA, in Seattle, in Chicago I And then to take the position that, well, actually, I don't want a cap. I actually want to increase immigration. I'm sure you could see how that, especially in conjunction with your had Previous statements that reenter into the TPP that this would actually just be an overall process to lower labor costs for, I Stockholders in this country ship American jobs out and and keep effectively, you know, the the massive invasion that has been in this had Country.
I I haven't really heard you talk about a mass Yeah. Deportation policy, which president Trump has. We have to get these millions of people who came in out.
Speaker 1: Have So, Rogan, I'm glad we're having this discussion because it's good to smoke out. I think it's good for our party. I just think this is a really important topic, so I think it's had Double click on. This is good. I have been probably the staunchest candidate in this race had About opposing the invasion across somebody else's border, used of our resources to protect against an invasion of somebody else's border have When we have literally an invasion across our own southern border, I am for not one case of amnesty.
Relocate anybody who is in this country illegally have To their country of origin, period. As a family unit, don't just take the parents, take the whole family unit that addresses the criticism of their families.
Speaker 0: And the reason that they're coming over into this had There's
Speaker 1: no merit. It's and that's driving crime, driving large waves of crime in this country. It drives an undermining of the rule of law in this country. I have I believe over the objections of posse comitatus, militarize the border. So I just think it's important we separate that issue, Rogan, from the question of had How do we then have a legal immigration policy that advances the interest of the homeland, not stockholders of a small set of companies, but actually our base of have Citizens in this country.
There, let's have a legitimate discussion. My view is chain based migration, wrong. H one b program, wrong. Had English as national language. Correct.
Civics exam before getting a visa. Correct. But this is what I favor, which is I think much more precise In accomplishing our shared national identity goals than to even think that look at what many others in the Republican Party are saying, hey we did some cap and then we're done with it. Oh and then we're still kind of looking the other way with and turning the other cheek on the southern border. No, it's just a different vision of how to address The interests of citizens in this country which is what I stand on the side of.