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Barefoot Doctor to B-52 Chen Zhu personifies the narrative of China's rise. Sent to the countryside during the Cultural Revolution he taught himself medicine, becoming a "barefoot doctor". Eventually he rose to become Health Minister. Is Zhu central to the Covid cover-up? 🧵
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Zhu is fluent in English and French. A Francophile, he did his PhD in France, supervised by a doctor who was a close friend of Jacques Chirac. During SARS he was Vice President of CAS (WIV's parent). When Institut Pasteur sent a scientific team to help, he saw an opportunity.
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Zhu was the driving force behind the Wuhan P4, and became good friends with businessman Alain Mérieux, who promoted the project in France. The project was signed off by the Chirac government overruling warnings from French security forces about PLA interest in biowarfare.
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Institut Pasteur Shanghai was set up as a joint venture with CAS. It was intended the P4 would be run as a joint venture, giving French scientists oversight. This didn't eventuate, no French scientists went to Wuhan. IPS staff were mostly Chinese, but linked to Pasteur's network.
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Chen Zhu was Health Minister between 2007-2013, while WIV were working towards their *fraudulent* claim of a bat origin of SARS. It wasn't solely a WIV initiative. There is clear co-ordination with other State Key Labs, such as AMMS and HKU (incl Tommy Lam).
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Less well known is a more recent Chen Zhu proposal. This would have involved the outposts of Instituts Pasteur and Mérieux in Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and Bangladesh, collaborating with China to sample novel pathogens.
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After the infamous Feb 1 teleconference, it was Chen Zhu that Farrar contacted to discuss concerns of artificial origin. Zhu might seem a good choice, a back channel to China's upper echelon. The response was rapid. @Florin_uncovers nailed the link.
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The next day, a proposal (directed at Fauci) for a joint venture between Harvard and Zhong Nanshan's institute, lavishly funded with a $118 million donation from Evergrande, would study coronavirus origins - over the longer term.
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And Holmes was contacted by Tommy Lam who wanted to draw attention to the pangolin sequences. Some had already been uploaded as metagenomic data in late January, but hadn't yet been noticed by western scientists.
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Two weeks later Institut Pasteur in Paris received a visit from the Chinese ambassador Lu Shaye. A press release on Pasteur's site proudly lists the many ways their Asian outposts collaborate with China.
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A new collaboration may have been discussed, which would have seen Chinese scientists from IPS join Institut Pasteur du Laos (IPL) in an expedition to sample bats. IPL had sampled hundreds of bats in 2017, funded by US DoD, but - for unknown reasons - *never sequenced them*.
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Ultimately it seems IPS didn't participate in the field trip, for unknown reasons (perhaps optics). But a few weeks beforehand, a Chinese military delegation visited. In early July samples were collected that contained the new closest relative to SARS-CoV-2 - Banal-20-52.
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Five SARS-like viruses were discovered - all from the one site (of 4 sampled). While some sequences purport to explain the SARS-CoV-2 and pangolin RBD, others have the RmYn02 RBD and its "proto-FCS", there are also sequences from ZC45, found 3000km away. Chance incroyable!
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I've wondered if Banal-52 is a reference to B-52, the plane that carpet bombed Laos during the Vietnam war? It is plausible that a similar virus, with an FCS insert, could become SARS-CoV-2. It suggests an origin outside China. And if artificial, it might be a US creation?
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But I don't believe the Banals are genuine natural viruses - evidence for this in a paper coming very soon. There are uncomfortable diplomatic ramifications. In 2023 Institut Pasteur dissolved its partnership with CAS. Unsurprisingly, Covid origins weren't mentioned.
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Links: https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/310520/strange-saga-how-france-helped-build-wuhans-top-security-virus-lab https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/enquete-sur-le-p4-de-wuhan-ce-laboratoire-qui-suscite-tant-de-fantasmes-construit-avec-l-aide-de-la-france-3907490 https://www.pasteur.fr/en/home/institut-pasteur/institut-pasteur-throughout-world/news/chinese-ambassador-france-visits-institut-pasteur https://zenodo.org/records/13476370
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I highly recommend paying a 1 euro temporary subscription to Mediapart and reading these three stories in full: https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/international/040620/wuhan-virus-research-lab-and-speculation-over-its-military-use https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/310520/strange-saga-how-france-helped-build-wuhans-top-security-virus-lab https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/200614/report-slams-pasteur-institute-loss-sars-virus-tubes-and-finds-it-also-lost-freezer-storing-them
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How to Make and Deploy a Bioweapon and Get Away With It. Don't try this at home (unless your home is at least BSL-3) Part 1: Growing a Backbone Cultivating a live zoonotic virus from a sample is much harder than it is to sequence one from RNA fragments. But there are ways. 🧵 https://t.co/OwdEG5nBVs
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WIV claim to have only ever obtained 3 live bat cov isolates: WIV1, WIV16 & RsSHC014. but I'm not convinced these are from natural samples at all, I suspect they're synthetic chimeras. WIV claim they cultivated these from bat fecal samples, but this is particularly challenging.
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Viruses can't survive for long without host cells to infect and replicate, so feces must be very fresh (or quickly frozen). Even then, bat feces contain many microorganisms (yeasts/fungi, bacteria, phages), and cytotoxic substances that can kill cells before they can be infected. https://t.co/B7WSKMmdaT
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WIV, and CSIRO "batman" Linfa Wang unsuccessfully tried to rescue viruses from feces several times. AMMS also tried and failed. No-one had successfully recovered any live RNA virus from feces before WIV1was announced in 2013. https://t.co/pgQWEByRGi
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To achieve this, WIV did little differently than on previous attempts. Apparently they got lucky. Doubly so because they managed to find the precursor to SARS. But they had also been quietly trying to engineer this hypothesized "missing link" virus in the lab. So, I wonder...? https://t.co/aavUoBJgF6
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A Baric led UNC/Vanderbilt team had previously rescued an artificial chimeric bat virus with the RBD from human SARS substituted. A synthetic virus avoids the problems of toxic contaminants and keeping the virus alive. But Baric was still unable to cultivate a purely bat virus. https://t.co/WVndXxKYBm
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WIV also failed at this apparently (at least initially). https://t.co/2rAAIq8fuZ
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But if obtaining live virus from feces and cell culture is hard (or impossible), there is a simpler way if you don't care so much about maintaining fidelity with the original strain. And it also has other advantages for those interested in infecting different host species... https://t.co/GvHKSCKY3R
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Intracerebral inoculation is the technique the PLA used in 2017 to infect suckling immune deficient mice with their bat virus discovery ZC45. It involves directly injecting fluid from ground infected tissue of freshly killed animals directly into the brains of live lab animals. https://t.co/oFj7z27OqA
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This technique isn't new. It was used as far back as 1930 to infect mice with yellow fever. Normally the brain is protected from infection by the blood-brain barrier. The technique circumvents that defense, and the immune response in the central nervous system is far less robust. https://t.co/0lWlTH8xPU
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Immune deficient mice aren't the only option for applying this technique. In the 1990's Baric was developing theories of coronavirus spillover. On several occasions he refers to an experiment involving the intracerebral inoculation of primates with mouse coronavirus MHV. https://t.co/ui5RLWMYcu
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Another Baric insight was that persistent infection (up to 210 days) produced MHV variants which could infect cells from other species. Using immune-suppressed baby mice or cell culture allows infection to persist, rather than be cleared by the immune system in days, as normal. https://t.co/6n0qmbxKvz
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We know the PLA used this technique with the ZC45 virus and BALB/C mice, might they have also used it on other species? An October 2016 paper made some interesting observations about the pangolin immune system (h/t @Engineer2The) suggesting a new immune deficient animal model. https://t.co/og4zVtcEvc
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By the next year Yigang Tong of AMMS was working (in secret) on purported pangolin viruses. Coincidence? https://t.co/0E5X7SsrWe
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The pangolin samples from AMMS have been distributed far and wide. I know of five separate groups (WIV, HKU, GIABR, SCAU, NUS) that published papers about them, though none acknowledge the PLA source. They were instructed to say they came from 某些特定机构 "certain institutions".
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Curiously, others have been unable to independently detect pangolin viruses. Some unusually useful work from EcoHealth produced this null result👇 https://t.co/Hlr6uYPBRv
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But it's also possible the pangolin was only a convenient scapegoat, never infected in nature or a lab, but samples of pangolin tissue deliberately contaminated to give that impression. I'll weigh the evidence for this in a forthcoming thread on "Getting away with it".
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Some handy hints for the DIY-er if you really insist on trying this out at home. At least make sure an exhaust fan is running and wear some rubber gloves. This is the level (BSL-2) that Yigang Tong worked on pangolin viruses. https://t.co/RfCcGKZxgi
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Thanks to @drlimengyan1 @Engineer2The @NLink247 @daoyu15 for ideas and discussions on this topic. Coming soon... Part 2: "Give your pathogen wings: what makes an airborne respiratory virus?"
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Lord have MERSy - it's the Fu@in Cleavage Site Again! There are odd features of SARS-CoV-2 furin cleavage site that some claim no-one would have engineered that way. They speak for themselves, its designers must have their reasons. First we must know: what was their intent?
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The unusual features are: 1) A leading Proline. 2) A non-canonical sequence. Furin is not cleaved with maximum efficiency. 3) The site has been created by an out-of-frame insertion, not substitution. 4) Presence of potential O-glycosylation sites nearby.
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1) A leading Proline, the "P" in "PRRAR". The reason for the Proline isn't obvious, though proline has unique structural attributes. It also enhances the chances of O-glycosylation nearby. But in some variants the P has mutated to something else, suggesting it isn't optimal.
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There is also a leading P in the FCS of MERS. So what, you ask? MERS is only distantly related, right?
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2) It's a non-canonical sequence. Missing an R (or K) in P2. SARS-CoV-2 has a minimal RXXR sequence but doesn't have the "canonical" RXRR pattern and so furin doesn't cleave it with maximum efficiency.
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@wanderer_jasnah clearly hadn't heard of MERS (and there are many others with non-canonical sequences too Jas!). MERS FCS also lacks an Arginine in P2, and so isn't cleaved with maximum efficiency. In fact SARS-CoV-2 is more efficiently cleaved by furin than MERS.
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Sequence lengthened by insertion. Compared to other related viruses, the loop on which the FCS is located is longer. The FCS is created by inserting four additional amino acids. *Most* previous experiments created an FCS by changing another residue to R, not adding new ones.
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The extra length of the insert creates an extended flexible loop off the surface of the spike. This length in itself is known to be important to pathogenesis. Is there another example of this? Yes - MERS.
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4) O-Glycosylation sites The Proximal Origin authors first noticed the presence of potential O-glycosylation sites leading to the FCS. These are simply Serine or Threonine residues. They don't always attach to glycans, but one thing that increases the odds is a nearby Proline.
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In what other virus can we find a similar pattern of potential O-glycosylation sites, near a Proline? You guessed it...MERS.
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So the FCS resembles that of MERS in several structural and functional ways, and the sequence looks quite similar. Why could this be? Maybe as a fallback? I'm not sure?
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Like SARS, MERS was of great interest to the biodefense industry. Both are far more virulent than other human covs. One objective of research was a vaccine that would work against both. But understanding the pathogenicity of MERS could also be useful for nefarious purposes.
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One group that was working towards such a vaccine was centered around husband and wife, Yusen Zhou and Lanying Du. Zhou is the PLA officer who died in mysterious circumstances in May 2020. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12205705/Chinese-military-expert-filed-patent-Covid-vaccine-died-mysterious-circumstances.html
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Du is less well known, but perhaps the more accomplished coronavirologist. She met and married Zhou in Beijing, then did her PhD with Bojian Zhang at HKU. BJ Zhang was also a guest professor at AMMS and instrumental in SARS origin tracing. https://covorigin.org/2023/05/17/the-furin-cleavage-site-part-1-nexus/
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Du then moved to the US and was based at the Lindsley F. Kimball Research Institute at New York Blood Center with Shibo Jiang. Other PLA scientists such as Wenbo Tai, also trained and worked there.
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Du studied and is a leading expert in MERS and its FCS, its role in conformational dynamics and pathogenicity. Although some are now claiming that no FCS was ever *inserted* experimentally - Du and Jiang were involved in an experiment that did exactly that.
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Du was working for NIH on projects managed by Peter Hotez which included pan-coronavirus vaccines designed by combining epitopes from different human coronaviruses with MERS and SARS. https://grantome.com/grant/NIH/R01-AI139092-03
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Hotez has admitted he worked closely with Du for many years, but he LIED that he didn't know her deceased husband, even though Yusen Zhou was also on his payroll. He even permitted animal testing work to be done in the AMMS Beijing lab. https://t.co/FIWOSXp7yI
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The Du group weren't the only ones pursuing a SARS/MERS vaccine. Their close collaborators - Fang Li's group from UMN and Wuhan University, and Wuhan Insitute of Virology were also interested. @billybostickson investigated a separate US project. https://t.co/E60lYDPcFi
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@biophysicsfl observed that SARS-CoV-2 FCS is even more similar to the MERS S2 site in sequence than its S1/S2 having an A in same position. There is some nucleotide homology too. The S2 site in MERS is more efficiently cleaved by furin than the S1/S2. https://t.co/u2DuC2IoAo
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I also noticed a sequence flanking the FCS (QTNSP) is found in another human coronavirus (HKU1) with nearly identical (14/15) nucleotides. This may be intended to introduce some "pan-coronavirus" immune interaction. https://t.co/PUeL5BXfY2
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There is sequence and structural homology to MERS elsewhere in the spike (particularly the NTD) and also to other human coronaviruses (e.g NL63) More about that in an earlier thread: https://t.co/FQLNv8RuCu https://t.co/A6CyB4xZw5
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I can speculate about why someone would insert epitopes from unrelated hCoVs. It could be benevolent (e.g. pan-coronavirus vaccine). But it could also be malicious. Zhou and Du catalogued and characterized non-neutralizing epitopes that cause ADE. https://t.co/6FpngCMcZQ
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SARS-CoV-2 is now known to be cross-reactive with other CoVs including MERS. This could be beneficial (confer immunity broadly across coronaviruses) but if antibodies aren't neutralizing potentially provides a mechanism for ADE, which increases severity of subsequent infections.
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Such a mechanism is described in this paper. The date of publication and author list are especially interesting, bringing together the AMMS (PLA), the WIV, Lanying Du and Shibo Jiang, and Fang Li and his postdocs (from the State Key Lab of Virology at Wuhan University) https://t.co/42KyrYyi1P
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Possibly more disconcerting, this thesis uncovered by @florin_uncovers. Humanized mouse models were developed targeting the dominant HLA for Chinese/East Asians. The thesis supervisor is Yusen Zhou and one of the epitopes evaluated is the MERS FCS: https://t.co/KaqA4YXr8U https://t.co/KlQSWnE0ho
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The Proximal Origin of Ebola Part 1 Like Covid-19, there is mystery shrouding the origin of the 2013-16 Ebola outbreak in West Africa (Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia). Very different diseases but the outbreaks have much in common, including many of the same people involved.
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@samhusseini and @bioSRP recently revived interest in the possibility of a lab leak origin. Though they don't claim dispositive proof, they point out that evidence supporting a natural origin is fragile, and a plausible case for a lab leak can be made. https://x.com/BioSRP/status/1584914301214662656
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They weren't the first to suspect a lab leak. International law expert Francis Boyle (who had helped implement the Bioweapons Convention in the US) was at the time the leading proponent of a theory that a lab in Kenema, Sierra Leone, with ties to USAMRIID, was responsible.
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Naturally this idea was mocked and "debunked" by mainstream media (and more recently in a Bob Garry paper) as a "conspiracy theory". https://web.archive.org/web/20231113225114/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/11216881/Ebola-is-man-made-and-other-crazy-conspiracy-theories.html
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The official line- that a child of 18-months was the index case after contact with infected bats, is questionable. Early suspected cases weren't tested for Ebola, and symptoms are common to many diseases. Bats and animals tested later were all negative. https://www.who.int/news-room/spotlight/one-year-into-the-ebola-epidemic/origins-of-the-2014-ebola-epidemic
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It is now established fact that many early cases went undetected in Sierra Leone. Journalist @sherifink found cases had gone unreported as early as March. By the time testing began in June 2014, the virus had spread widely and was genetically diverse. https://x.com/CD57227/status/1721544552060715486
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The lab under suspicion is situated at Kenema General Hospital (KGH). The lab was run by the Viral Hemorrhagic Fever Consortium (VHFC) whose members include Harvard and Tulane, Scripps and UTMB. Some of the leadership will be familiar to those following Covid origins.
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At the time Kristian Andersen was at Harvard, where he did postdoc with Pardis Sabeti. Bob Garry is also a founding partner in Zalgen Labs, which is based near Fort Detrick and developed an Ebola therapeutic. Doug Simpson is former CEO of Corgenix, which developed an Ebola test.
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Separate to VHFC but at the same KGH site is Metabiota. This adds an extra layer of intrigue. The VC firm in which Hunter Biden was partner - Rosemont Seneca - was a seed investor in Metabiota, and was actively promoting the company to potential clients and new investors.
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Emails from the Hunter Biden laptop leak show some at Rosemont Seneca even saw Ebola as a marketing opportunity. Hunter Biden's value to RS was his then Vice-President father. They could market a unique advantage in finding "public policy opportunities" and "avoiding missteps".
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China also sent a team to Sierra Leone basing themselves on the other side of the country. Though ostensibly there to provide medical support, many were research scientists. Some will also be familiar names - senior among them George Gao of China CDC, and Wuchun Cao of AMMS.
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On the ground in Sierra Leone the Chinese team was led by AMMS's Yigang Tong and Shandong Uni's Weifeng Shi. In Covid origins work they were responsible for pangolin coronaviruses and RmYN02 respectively. They have worked together often in the past, as have their teams.
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Tong is closely associated with the discovery (or invention) of the pangolin coronaviruses, some of which have near identical RBD to SARS-CoV-2. In a paper he revealed they had them since 2017. At that time he was involved in a secret military project. https://x.com/breakfast_dogs/status/1744029206860980239?s=20
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Some have speculated that Andersen and Garry feared if SARS-CoV-2 were the result of a lab leak, it could lead to an investigation of their Sierra Leone activities. Perhaps Ron Fouchier alluded to this in an email following the Feb 1st teleconference? https://x.com/Rebecca21951651/status/1734197785182765421?s=20
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Chinese involvement may expand this. Perhaps blackmail was used - if you expose our lab leak, we'll expose yours? This might well explain their overnight conversion from a serious concern about artificial origin, to ridiculing it as a "conspiracy theory".
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At the pre-pandemic preparedness "Event 201", George Gao, seated next to now ODNI Director Avril Haines, dropped a reference to rumors of a lab leak in Sierra Leone during a session on controlling "misinformation and disinformation". (From 1:00) https://x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1635437727117352960?s=20
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The day after the infamous Feb 1st teleconference there were other events that appear to be a coordinated Chinese influence operation to derail the case for an artificial origin. The Chinese had clearly been informed of the nature of discussions.
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On Feb 2nd Edward Holmes was contacted by former colleague Tommy Lam regarding the "discovery" of pangolin coronaviruses. Many of these had already been sequenced and uploaded, and a paper was published in October 2019. But western scientists hadn't given it any attention.
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Neither Tommy Lam, nor the Guangdong scientists were the source of the pangolin samples and isolates. These came from AMMS, who had had them since 2017. PLA officers Yigang Tong and Wuchun Cao are credited on the final published paper, but oddly, not on the preceding pre-prints.
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In 2014 Lam had authored, with Holmes and HKU's Yi Guan (also known for work linking civets to SARS-1), a paper on a separate Ebola outbreak happening simultaneously in the DRC. They hinted that, but for its remote location, this outbreak may have looked like a lab leak.
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Also on Feb 2, 2020, Fauci was contacted by Harvard Medical School about a proposed US$128 million donation from Evergrande. This was to fund a joint Sino-US group to study Covid origins (among other things), presumably to influence the direction investigations might take.
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The donor's representative, who claimed to be CEO of Evergrande Health, insisted on direct discussion between Fauci and Zhong Nanshan. Zhong had been integral in the attempt to link the SARS-1 outbreak to civets (which many scientists now find dubious). https://x.com/AshleyRindsberg/status/1570357155357679616?s=20
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Was it significant that Harvard was the beneficiary, given they were a partner in VHFC? In any case the deal didn't proceed as planned. Only one payment of $12m was ever received. Journalist @AshleyRindsberg failed to track down the intermediary. https://x.com/AshleyRindsberg/status/1678694977596006402
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The Chinese were clearly offering inducements for the Americans to push a natural origin, but did they also have leverage to threaten them - "kompromat"? Perhaps some scientific evidence they had acquired that might show an artificial origin of West African Ebola?
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To be continued...
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Update on my own ongoing efforts to get hold of Edward Holmes' emails: Sydney University also initially rejected my application on grounds that it would endanger Holmes' safety (among other things). I refuted this in an appeal to the independent Information Commissioner @IPCNSW.
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The @IPCNSW instructed Sydney Uni that they must consider the public interest for and against disclosing each document separately and withhold only those there is a genuine balance of public interest *against* disclosure.
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If these emails are genuinely about zoonotic viruses it is hard to see what arguments *against* disclosure might be. But the university then came back with a revised offer to disclose NONE of the documents because it would require too much staff time to assess them.
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Their estimate of this time was 20-25 working days. While I doubt it would take anywhere near this amount of time (these emails are about zoonotic viruses after all) even if it did I find this argument an insult to the public who suffered through the pandemic.
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To put into context 25 days of uni admin time charged at $50/hour would cost $9375. For comparison, this amounts to 0.2% of the $3.94 million public grant Holmes was recently awarded by @nhmrc for "A metagenomics platform to prevent future pandemics".
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How can we prevent future pandemics if we can't identify the cause of the recent one? Holmes' origin theories are based on data and samples from the PRC, including the PLA's bioweapons institute (AMMS). His correspondence is the only data that might elucidate their provenance.
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@Sydney_Uni seem deeply compromised by their dependence on international student fees and research collaborations with China. I've written to @mscott and senior executives several times to plead the case for transparency and accountability and received no response. https://t.co/92t8jofKnG
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In my view they're not acting in good faith. If costs were genuinely too high they could have negotiated to reduce scope again, or levied a processing fee. I've appealed again to the Information Commissioner and will pursue it as far as possible. But I'm not holding my breath.
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In Holmes' favour I can see from metadata USYD provided that he hasn't communicated directly with AMMS. That relationship seems to have been mediated by Tommy Lam, so unclear how much he knew of the background (prior to publication of the pangolin paper when it became public). https://t.co/R9StP215EL
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The previous table relates to documents resulting from my specific search parameters, which (after scope reductions) were restricted to: emails relating to search terms below, dated between December 2019 and July 2020, to/from any names below. This returned 643 discrete items. https://t.co/YnOEXTao8r
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Because the scope of powers is also being expanded to include pandemic "prevention and preparedness", this means "all the time" not just during a pandemic. If in Australia you still have 3 days to make a submission on this bullshit we are signing up to. https://consultations.health.gov.au/health-systems-policy-division/preparing-for-pandemics-and-health-emergencies/
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Because the scope of powers is also being expanded to include pandemic "prevention and preparedness", this means "all the time" not just during a pandemic. If in Australia you still have 3 days to make a submission on this bullshit we are signing up to. https://consultations.health.gov.au/health-systems-policy-division/preparing-for-pandemics-and-health-emergencies/