@minordissent - Max
Why is so much of the internet obsessed with fixing society instead of themselves? Obsessed with statistical averages they cant control, ignoring that they could easily become an outlier? Trying to solve near impossible challenges when they have no experience solving simple ones?
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
@minordissent Maybe because there is overlap in these problems? (fixing society vs fixing the self) E.g.: observing how smartphones negatively impact on a societal level helps me understand how mine impacts me on a personal level + how I can fix my own use
@minordissent - Max
Why is so much of the internet obsessed with fixing society instead of themselves? Obsessed with statistical averages they cant control, ignoring that they could easily become an outlier? Trying to solve near impossible challenges when they have no experience solving simple ones?
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
@minordissent I.e.: the same problems + solutions exist across the progressive levels of the emergence tower: https://t.co/kUgHOXCLuu
@minordissent - Max
It is both sad and irritating how many people believe shit like this. Many above average minds possessed by these retarded dysgenic memes made up by “experts”.
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
@minordissent Wdym. You don’t believe depression has a genetic component? The issue with this guy is that he’s discounting “nurture” so hard he’s voluntarily ending his own bloodline
@minordissent - Max
Do any of you retards have a PhD? I have questions
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
@minordissent Pretty huge Dick https://t.co/GDcHq5Z299
@minordissent - Max
The system is not “designed”, it is emergent. It is an organism seeking, like all organisms, to expand itself across space and forward through time. And thus is a product of natural selection. The functions that increase its fitness proliferate; the ones that don’t, don’t. The state, like all memes, has a symbiotic relationship with its host. It assists the host in certain ways and costs it in other ways. When the meme is new and the host is in power, the meme is weak and it must cost little and benefit a lot. But as it makes the host more powerful, the host’s dependence on it increases. This increases the meme’s leverage in the “negotiation”, allowing it to extract without being “punished”. In general, when the meme provides more net benefit than cost, it expands and grows. When it’s equal, it stalls. And when it is a net cost, it shrinks. But due to scale of the system, the time it takes for effects to move all the way through it can be years or even decades. This is made further complex by the fact that meme (or memeplexes ie related memes cooperating to form a larger meme) themselves compete. If there are no systems with better cost benefits, the system will continue to expand even when it is a net negative (because the hosts BATNA is garbage) This is why a 2% tax was overthrow-the-government worthy 300 years ago while today 50% tax is tolerated. So how do you replace a bad meme? Not by killing it when you are still dependent on it. Thats how you get everyone killed (a la communism). It was not an accident or coincidence that slavery was ubiquitous until the 1800s. Notably, still 200 years after the Enlightenment ethos of “all men are created equal”. For the new meme of “slavery bad” to proliferate, the industrial revolution needed to occur, to allow Slavery to be abolished without completely collapsing civilization in the process. The same thing is true of the state or the modern monetary system. Until there is an alternative that meets the needs of the original meme and which has low switching cost, nothing will change.
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
@minordissent https://t.co/bRpUE5YQtz
@minordissent - Max
This is true but it doesn't contradict my point. The degree to which post modern art/architecture is designed to kill your spirit is a product of projection and “misery loves company” of its creator. They themselves have already had their spirit killed. They are mostly trying to express this. There is of course a little bit of them trying to force this awareness on you out of resentment. But the “intent” here is unconscious and a minor factor. The more important factor here is that all the creatives today have dead spirits in the first place. Nothing they produce is beautiful anymore. Because the death of God killed their spirit. If there is only the brutal material world, if there is no transcendent, if the base nature of reality is not driven by love, then there is no beauty there is no meaning. Sure you can manufacture a simulacrum of it, as Dawkins et al try to do, but they mostly fail and the degree to which they succeed is actually just tapping into our religious wiring. A beautiful lie to fulfill our need for beautiful lies. Thus, post modern brutalism is just the logical conclusion of the spiritual zeitgeist. If transcendent beauty is fake and gay and value is determined by capital efficiency. Then the most capitol efficient buildings ARE beauty. They ARE calling to and manifesting the higher order of the values that underly our society. Sure, normies are downstream from this stuff. but the great thing about normies is that they have evolved to have no need for connection to reality as it is. They are like cockroaches, able to survive and thrive with any type of metaphysics. The e-right likes to imagine that the normie is less happy with his pornhub and vidya and sodapop than were he a warrior and a poet and a hero. But this is all projection. It is only the sensitive autistic retard who is phased by the ugly metaphysics (and its consequences) of the modern world. The most ironic thing here is that the normie does not care that the beautiful lies are lies. He was entirely happy with Christianity. It is us autistic retards, and our insatiable pursuit of accuracy and logic consistency, that we killed God and created the brutal post modern hellscape we so deeply despise.
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
I should have added some context with that clip. I wasn't trying to contradict you, but rather bolster your point. Tucker is spot-on in recognizing that modern architecture kills the spirit, but his very first line "post-modern architecture is designed to demoralize and hurt you", paints the phenomenon as intentional. In the same way that inflation is not "intelligently designed" to oppress people, neither is modern architecture. It's emergent. Yes it is oppressive, but that's a fallout of selective pressures to build fast/cheap irrespective of aesthetics. My point here is that even when people have brilliant insights, they often blatantly get the causation wrong. Modern equivalent of "this drought / famine was caused by the rain gods", because causation gives people comfort. Because the idea that phenomenon are the results of amorphous systems outside of our control is scary
@minordissent - Max
Why is the number of people who are considering the possibility that religion is a product of fitness-enhancing memetic selection so miniscule? Like there’s literally millions of Darwinist atheists in the world and yet there seems to be less than 1000 who have ever even asked the most basic question of: “if religion is so bad and evil and dumb and wrong, why hasnt atheism outcompeted it ever in all of human history for more than a few decades at a time?”
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
@minordissent This always baffles me too. Not a difficult concept. When I was 15, I wrote a paper about Christianity's rise over (secular) Roman Paganism due to fitness-enhancing benefits for the plebs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M5bIpWr7h3FBHGdAZ8bQR3wDgY_xOEIBW6eGFb8iKWo/edit?usp=sharing
@minordissent - Max
Do any of you retards have a PhD? I have questions
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
@minordissent ya
@minordissent - Max
If this question doesn’t haunt you, you are gay.
@PepMangione - Luigi Mangione
@minordissent so you’re saying this question doesn’t haunt you also you don’t have a doghouse