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EXCLUSIVE: @TulsiGabbard is releasing the highly-anticipated RFK assassination files. Watch her take Daily Wire reporter @MaryMargOlohan behind the scenes at the National Archives to showcase the work that goes into the release, and take a look at what's inside. https://t.co/q6w3g3UBUc
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The National Archives released 10,000 pages of documents related to the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, available online at archives.gov/rfk, fulfilling President Trump's executive order for maximum transparency. Another 50,000 related pages were recently discovered and will be released later.
The released documents include a Department of Justice case file on Sirhan Sirhan with photos and maps, and FBI Boston field office records with the code name "Kensalt." While there's no "smoking gun," the documents raise questions about the assassination, such as the possibility of multiple shooters and the angle of shots fired. One memo references multiple American embassies who were recipients of the cable. RFK Jr. supports the release of all documents, which are unredacted except for legally required personal information.
The National Archives also holds records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, including Lee Harvey Oswald's passport and shirt, and the Zapruder camera. The goal is to provide transparency, allowing the public to access these documents and build trust in the government.
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Speaker 0: Today's a big day. It is the first time we are releasing the country will be able to see, the documents that have been sitting here at the National, Archives and Records Agency around the assassination of senator Robert f Kennedy. Thanks to president Trump's leadership and his executive order mandating maximum transparency, we have had well over a hundred people, some of whom you can see here, who have been working around the clock going page by page, all to lead us to this day where the 10,000 pages that have been sitting here are now going to be available online at archives.gov/rfk.
Speaker 1: So so important, and this transparency is something that many Americans have been interested in, and so many Americans have been invested in the release of these files.
Speaker 0: So today's release is 10,000 pages. Those are the ones that we had access to here. Just the other day, we discovered and found another 50,000 pages specifically related to the assassination of senator Robert f Kennedy. And so the work you're seeing happening here today is going to continue on as we have other teams going out and doing those searches and hunting for additional records that once again have not been found or released to the public ever before.
Speaker 1: Well, would love to look at some of these documents with you if you have time.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: This here is a file of the Department of Justice, case file on Sirhan Sirhan, and it includes photographs and map of the Ambassador Hotel as they were conducting the investigation into the assassination. Over here, we have records from the FBI Boston field office. The FBI gave the investigation the code name of Kensalt, and so part of this release includes some of those Kensalt investigative records, and I know that there are many more to come.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So this is I mean, this has really shined a light on the the need for more of these types of releases to occur. People will find in the release today, there's no quote unquote smoking gun, but there's a lot of interesting things that have not been previously known that really call into question what really happened. Wow. What was behind it?
If you look on this memo alone, you see Kuwait, London, Tel Aviv, Beirut, Jeddah, Tunis, Benghazi, Baidah, all of these American embassies who were the recipients of this cable. People are gonna have to go to the website and read for themselves to to kind of get an insight onto what the conversations are like Right. Before and after senator Kennedy's assassination.
Speaker 1: What was your takeaway when you saw some of these lines?
Speaker 0: There are more questions than answers. Was there more than one shooter? What was the angle of the shots that were fired? There was a woman who ran away from the scene where senator Kennedy was shot screaming, we shot him. We shot him.
There's so much more ultimately that I think needs to be declassified and digitized Right. So that anybody can access this and know what the government knows. American taxpayers pay for this building. They deserve to know what's in it.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned that you spoke with RFK junior about the release of these files. Is he aware of the developments with these and has interest in looking into these questions as well?
Speaker 0: You know, he's he's obviously spent a lot of his life looking into what happened to his father. And so there's there's a lot of what's here that that he's already known or suspected. But, you know, when I asked him initially, said, you know, do you wanna review everything before it goes out? Or do you have any concerns about the release? And and his words were, you have to get it all out there.
People need to see it. These are completely unredacted with the exception of what the law requires, which is, you know, social security numbers and other personal identifiable information. But but I'm I'm excited for us to be able to to push this out and bring it out for the American people to see.
Speaker 1: And let the sleuths do their thing.
Speaker 2: So this is our specially protected holdings vault where we store those records here at the National Archives that are most susceptible to the theft or vandalism and that need to be protected and secured. Let's go ahead and start here at the end. Most of what we're showing you relates to the assassination of president Kennedy. This is Lee Harvey's Oswald's passport that he carried when he defected to the Soviet Union. And this is also his passport application.
Speaker 1: Is that a baby? His daughter. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're familiar with the Zapruder film. This is the Zapruder camera.
Speaker 1: Looks heavy.
Speaker 0: It is? Don't drop it. Oh.
Speaker 1: But you guys are glad you don't have to use these kind of things.
Speaker 2: So we have here, if you'd like to see it, we do have the shirt that Oswald had on. My new shot.
Speaker 0: These significant moments in history, the assassination of of president John f Kennedy, of senator Robert f Kennedy, of Martin Luther King Junior, you know, a lot of this has been shrouded in mystery for most of our lifetimes. And so this transparency of being able to take these documents, scan them in, and make it so that people can read them with a click of a button is is important. It's important to the country, and it's important in our continued search for the truth and and building trust in our government.
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I shared an exclusive update about Biden's efforts to auction off unused border wall materials just weeks before Trump takes office. Trucks are seen transporting these materials to a government auction site, where a significant quantity is set to be sold. For more details, check out the full story by James Lalino.
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A retrospective of how the Leftist media continuously compared Trump to Hitler: https://t.co/MQcdTexgkC
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Trump is compared to Hitler for echoing his language and praising his tactics. The use of terms like "vermin" and admiration for Hitler's generals are highlighted as concerning parallels. The speaker emphasizes the fascist nature of Trump's rhetoric and warns against echoing dictators like Hitler.
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Speaker 0: Of course, it's Trump is a Nazi time again. Let's deal with Hitler. Okay? I don't think it's hyperbolic to say that I mean, that is Mussolini Hitler like language. Trump's affinity for Hitler was always covered under an umbrella of his stupidity.
Echoing Hitler's words. Listen to this. Well, Hitler was duly elected. That's right. Echoing the hateful rhetoric of Adolf Hitler.
It echoes Hitler. That's the kind of language Hitler used in Mein Kampf. Got Wurman and and Hitler and Musi That's a horrifying clip. That's a fascist clip. We're just going full on Hitler from Hitler's Germany.
We just need to say for the record that the term vermin was really effectively used by Adolf Hitler. Echo dictators like Hitler. With language evoking authoritarian figures like Adolf Hitler and Adolf Hitler Donald Trump parroted the autocratic language of Adolf Hitler. Talk about the brilliance of Hitler's generals. Correct.
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Cars were halted on Francis Scott Key Bridge seconds before the cargo ship collision, saving numerous lives. Governor Wes Moore confirms the ship issued a distress call before the crash. Bridge workers' swift action prevented a disaster, says Moore. https://t.co/QRdMr7hLmL
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“You tweeted in 2016 that Trump stole an election.” KJP: “I was waiting for when you were going to ask that question.” Doocy: “If denying election results is extreme now, why wasn't it then?" KJP: “That comparison that you made is just ridiculous.”
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Speaker 1 is asked about their previous tweets regarding Trump and Brian Kemp stealing elections. Speaker 1 dismisses the comparison as ridiculous and clarifies that they were referring to the threat to voting rights at that time.
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Speaker 0: The new attention on the MAGA Republicans. You tweeted in terms of the Trump sole election.
Speaker 1: I was waiting, Peter, when you were going to ask me that question.
Speaker 0: Well, great. Here we go. You tweeted Trump stole an election. You tweeted Brian Kemp stole an election. Denying election results is extreme now.
Yeah.
Speaker 1: So let's be really clear. That comparison that you made is just ridiculous. I have been well, you're asking me a question. Let me answer it.
Speaker 0: And you said it
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. I was talking specifically at that time of what was happening with voting rights and what was in danger of voting rights. That's what I was speaking to at the time.
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So stunning. So brave.
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This video explores the complex topic of gender identity and its impact on society. It discusses conflicting messages and confusion surrounding the definition of a woman, with perspectives ranging from physical changes during puberty to gender identity and self-expression. The video raises concerns about the influence of social media, online communities, and cultural shifts in shaping individuals' perceptions of their gender. It also questions the role of medical professionals in affirming gender identities and the potential risks of hormone treatments and surgeries. The debate extends to sports, where fairness and advantages for transgender athletes are discussed. The video concludes by highlighting the lack of a clear definition for the term "woman" and the ongoing controversies surrounding gender identity and pronouns.
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Speaker 0: Being a dad is one of the great privileges of my life. Give my son a BB gun, and that's just about all the emotional support he needs. My daughter on the other hand, I've heard people say that there are no differences between male and female. Those people are idiots. I'm a husband.
I'm a father of 4. I host a talk show. I give speeches. I write books. I like to make sense of things, but making sense of females is a whole other matter.
Even astrophysicist Stephen Hawking, who could come up with a theory on black holes was completely dumbfounded by women.
Speaker 1: Women, they are a complete mystery.
Speaker 0: And now our culture is telling us that the differences between girls and boys don't matter, that if you identify as something, then you are that thing. How do we help our kids make sense of this when they're bombarded with conflicting messages about gender and identity? Forget trying to figure out women. The real question is, what is a woman?
Speaker 2: As you grow, your body changes from that of a young girl to that of a woman. Soon, Molly will be a young woman having dates, Going to dances in lovely romantic dresses.
Speaker 3: The boy's shoulders are broad and his body muscular, while the girl's body is more curved.
Speaker 4: I'd like to know more about different Kinds of hormones.
Speaker 3: Presence of these hormones in the blood brings about many changes in the bodies of both boys and girls.
Speaker 5: Being a woman is one of the things I like the best about myself. I think you'll like it too.
Speaker 0: I like to come out here to think. Nature seems to always tell the truth even when we don't wanna hear it. Truth is I'm not very good at fishing, but what is truth? Is there a truth? Is this what progress looks like?
Can my boys really become girls? Do I have 4 daughters? Do I now have to pay for 4 weddings? Is there a son trapped in my daughter's body? If so, how do I get them out?
Are any of my kids who they claim to be? Who are these people? Who am I? I better see a therapist.
Speaker 6: In the state of Tennessee, I'm a licensed marital and family therapist, which basically means I've been trained up to think about, like, systems, family systems, how we were raised up, how that shapes who we are today.
Speaker 0: So on your website quote if you'll if you'll bear with me. Quoting, you say, I use a combination of approaches in my therapeutic work, including anti oppression, feminist, and narrative frameworks. I rely deeply on systems theory and understanding that individuals are products of and in dialogue with our surroundings, including our families, broader culture, workplaces, nature, and political climates. What, Does that mean?
Speaker 6: Yeah. So thinking about the modalities that I use, I'm definitely informed by, like, feminist, Family therapy, and the ideas that, we live in gendered worlds where there are certain Imperatives that are placed on us about who we are and what we do based on how we've been gendered. From the minute I was assigned female, I was told, okay, these are the kind of clothing that you're gonna wear. These are the kind of the the type of play that you're gonna engage in as a child, the path that maybe your life will take because of social expectations.
Speaker 0: What do you what do you mean by assigned female? Who who assigns Female.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So, most times, people, when they're born, they're assigned a gender
Speaker 0: By the
Speaker 6: The doctors. Doctors. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Like, what do they what do they base that assignment on?
Speaker 6: So, basically, it's it's based on genitalia. So people looking at Genitalia and deciding, okay, this is a a girl or a boy. And we know now that, like, that sex and gender are so much more than just this binary. Some women have penises, right? Some men have vaginas.
That that that's not how how gender works.
Speaker 0: How do we know that how do we know that that's not true? Where where did we where did we learn that
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, we I I learned that, from hearing from transgender people who have said, like, oh, I'm a trans woman. And just because I happen to have a penis, right, that doesn't mean that this is, like, who I am as a person, or or that genitalia doesn't equal gender, who they are, their gender, their gender expression, that, yeah, a trans woman is a woman.
Speaker 0: With the fluidity of these things, How do I know if if I'm a woman? You know? I I
Speaker 6: That's a great question.
Speaker 0: I like scented candles. Yeah. I've watched Sex and the City. Yep. Yeah.
So how do I know?
Speaker 6: Yeah. Matt, that question right there, like, that question is, like, when it's asked with a lot of curiosity. Right? That's the beginning of a lot of people's, like, gender identity development journeys.
Speaker 0: If my mom who gave birth to me is a woman and my wife is a woman, though I haven't asked her. Maybe I should. But if they're all women and also the boy who sits down with you and says, I think I'm a girl Actually is 1. Then then what is a woman?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Great question. I'm not a woman, so I I can't really answer that.
Speaker 0: I thought therapy would make me less confused. Am I the only one feeling this way? I need to hit the road and find out. We're talking about gender in society. Let me What is a woman?
I don't wanna assume, but you guys are all Yeah. Women? We're
Speaker 7: all good. Yeah. We're women.
Speaker 0: So how would you define it, like, in the simplest terms?
Speaker 7: That is hard. Yeah. It is. It is a stumper.
Speaker 8: A woman is someone that likes to be pretty and think themselves as a delicate creature.
Speaker 0: I'm pretty and delicate. Okay. I could be a woman too.
Speaker 8: Yes, you could.
Speaker 0: Defining womanhood is just a project of someone who identifies as a woman. Yeah. But what like, what do they identify you see what I'm saying? What do they identify as they identify as a woman, but what is that? I honestly don't know.
It's a simple question. So why is it so hard to answer? This is gonna take some serious
Speaker 9: investigation.
Speaker 10: For all
Speaker 0: of human existence, women were understood to be a certain thing. So what changed? No one can seem to answer the question now. Over 2,000 surgeries and counting, doctor Marcy Bowers is the nation's preeminent sex change surgeon. Surely, someone who does sex change surgeries First of all, thanks for talking to us.
Speaker 10: My pleasure.
Speaker 0: So you're a world renowned gynecologist and surgeon. You're also a transgender woman. Can you tell me a little bit about
Speaker 10: No, I mean, I identify as a woman, but
Speaker 0: You're a woman. Right.
Speaker 10: I'm a woman with I mean, that's my life Day to day, but I have a transgender history.
Speaker 0: So one thing, on your website, it says, gender affirmed GAV, gender affirming Vaginoplasty. What is that exactly?
Speaker 10: Vaginoplasty is the creation of female, Female vagina and vulva were altering the physical characteristics of the individual to to fit better with a Gender identity that is female.
Speaker 0: This is all constructed from the penis?
Speaker 11: Yes, that's
Speaker 10: right. The surgeries are quite refined in the sense that they really not only do they look like female anatomy, but they also function that way, For the most part. I mean, certainly, it's a bit of a Faustian bargain. You know, it's not perfect.
Speaker 0: Does anyone ever regret their Doctor. Well, we know they do. But how often do people regret their surgeries? Doctor.
Speaker 10: Well, actually, we don't know that they do. There are legitimate detransitioners. And there are people who truly feel that in their journey, they may have made a mistake. Now, fortunately, this is a really, really uncommon phenomenon.
Speaker 0: I don't know if you've ever heard of people in the trans abled Community. These are people who are physically able-bodied but feel like they should be disabled or identify as such. For example, a man who Has 2 arms, but feels like you should have 1. If, if a man in this kind of marginalized community was went to the doctor and said, I want to have my arm cut off, Do you think that
Speaker 10: That doesn't have anything to do with gender identity.
Speaker 0: Well, it's, someone's someone's self identity. How's someone
Speaker 10: That's someone who has a, a and I'll accept it as a mental diagnosis, a psychiatric condition. I don't even pretend to know what aptaminophilia is all about. But somehow, it's the idea that you and you you know, you're Fascinated or charmed by having a limb or part of a limb missing. Mhmm. Okay.
I would say that's, Pardon my nonmedical language kooky.
Speaker 0: You don't see any? You think this is totally irrelevant? Yep. So the biggest, broadest question is, what is a woman?
Speaker 10: A woman is a You know, it's a combination of your physical attributes and then what you're showing to the world and the gender Clues that you give. And hopefully, those match your gender identity.
Speaker 0: The critics on the other side of this Of, of this of this issue.
Speaker 10: There aren't many. But go ahead.
Speaker 0: There aren't many who would disagree with what you're saying about?
Speaker 10: Well, you know, the dinosaurs of the world are certainly out there.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 0: How long have you been, running the shop here?
Speaker 13: 25 years.
Speaker 0: Wow. Now you had an incident here a little while ago that went really viral online. Lots of reaction in the public.
Speaker 14: Aberdeen councilwoman, Tiesa Mesques, confronted owner, Don Zucker about a sign he posted in his store.
Speaker 13: One day, I just put the sign up over here. And, He came around the corner, and I thought, okay, I recognize him. I says, oh, I recognize you. You're our new city councilman. He says, no.
I'm your new city councilwoman. So it was it was kinda on from there.
Speaker 1: You know what? It's bullshit.
Speaker 13: No. What you're spouting is bullshit.
Speaker 1: No. It's not. Trans women are women, sir. That sign is bullshit.
Speaker 13: I've been doing this 25 years. I've never had a problem with anybody whether they're gay, trans sex anything.
Speaker 0: Now you're saying councilman, He this individual was saying, I'm a woman.
Speaker 13: Right. And then
Speaker 0: and you said you're not a woman. How how did how do you know that that person's not a woman?
Speaker 13: How do I know? Yeah. Well, common sense.
Speaker 9: Friends, women, war, women.
Speaker 0: Doesn't doesn't the science say that If someone identifies as a woman, then they are.
Speaker 13: No. No. Now that's completely bogus. I don't care if you think you're a sheepdog and you come into my store. It don't matter to me.
Just don't come in and try to shove that down my throat.
Speaker 0: If it makes someone feel better, what about their their feelings?
Speaker 13: I don't give a shit about their feelings. I'm old.
Speaker 0: What about the Star Wars universe? Jar Jar Binks. Pansexual, do you think? Transgender?
Speaker 13: Why would I why would I even care?
Speaker 0: If it's his truth
Speaker 13: Well, it ain't true.
Speaker 0: You're not a scientist. You're not a gender studies major. Or are you? No. No?
Okay. How do you know that you're a man?
Speaker 13: How do I know that I'm a I guess because I got a dick.
Speaker 0: Well, I guess Don isn't overthinking it. He admits he's not a gender studies major, or at the very least a doctor. Maybe I should go talk to 1.
Speaker 4: My name is Michelle Fourcier, and I have a medical degree from University of Connecticut Residency, University of Utah Pediatrics, and I've worked for a number of different Planned Parenthoods For 20 years, I do advanced contraception and abortion as well as gender hormones and sort of looking at the whole sort of schema of gender, And reproductive, justice.
Speaker 9: So
Speaker 0: you've done a lot of work in this field. Could you just start by telling us
Speaker 9: Sure.
Speaker 0: At what age can a child first Begin to transition into another gender or identify themselves as a gender different from how they were born.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean, there's there's research and data that show that, babies and infants, understand differences in gender. Some children figure out their gender really early. And the reason why we are say, oh, that's it's interesting or important is because They're figuring out their gender identity is not necessarily congruent with their sex assigned at birth.
Speaker 0: When the when the doctor sees the penis and says, this is a male, As the sex of male, that's an arbitrary distinction.
Speaker 4: Telling that family based on that little penis That your child is absolutely a 100% male identified, no matter what else occurs in their life, That's not correct.
Speaker 0: So what is gender affirmation care? You're a big proponent of if we walk through, a child is sitting down with you, is questioning Yeah. Their gender. What's the gender affirmation process?
Speaker 4: Affirmation means that as a pediatrician, as someone who says my job is to provide the best medical care for you is I need to listen really carefully. And how I put it in words for kids so that they can understand it Is, tell me your story. Where have you been in terms of your gender and your gender identity? Where are you right now? And more excitingly, where would you like to be in the future?
Speaker 0: Have you ever met a 4 year old Who believes in Santa Claus?
Speaker 9: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: So this is someone who believes that a fat man is traveling through the sky and a flying reindeer at lightning speed coming down his chimney with presents. Yeah. Would you say that this is someone who maybe has a tenuous grasp on reality?
Speaker 4: They have an appropriate 4 year old handle on the reality that's very real for them.
Speaker 0: Agreed. Agreed. But Santa Claus is real for them, but Yeah. Santa Claus is not actually real.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and but Santa Claus does deliver their Christmas presents.
Speaker 0: Well, yeah. But he's not real, though.
Speaker 4: To that child, they are.
Speaker 0: When I see a child who, you know, believes in Santa Claus, and then let's say this is a boy and he says, I'm a girl. Mhmm. This is someone who can't distinguish between fantasy and reality, so how could you take that as a reality?
Speaker 4: I would say that as a pediatrician and as a parent, I would say how wonderful my 4 year old and their imagination is.
Speaker 0: Aren't kids famous for their active imaginations? Should we really let our children define reality? If I said that I I feel a certain way, then obviously you can't tell me I don't feel that way.
Speaker 15: Yes. Yes.
Speaker 0: But just because I feel that way, does that mean it's that it's true?
Speaker 15: I mean, if it's your reality Yeah. It's it's yours. Truly, like, none of my business.
Speaker 0: So we all have our own Identify. Realities? What if I said, I want you to say that it's True that I'm a woman. Would you say that? You're a woman.
Speaker 7: I would also say that.
Speaker 9: If you
Speaker 16: want, I don't. Yes.
Speaker 0: I honestly don't care. Like, whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 5: What's true to you can be can be false to me. So, like, it it's the it's
Speaker 0: like What if I said that it's true my truth is that you don't exist? Does that mean you you no longer exist?
Speaker 5: I mean, if that's your truth, sure. I don't. Because it's But
Speaker 0: you do?
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, if you're saying
Speaker 9: that I
Speaker 5: do, then I do.
Speaker 0: Well, but even if I said that you don't, you still do because we're we're having this conversation.
Speaker 5: I mean, are we?
Speaker 0: I think so. I mean, I
Speaker 5: thought That's what you think.
Speaker 0: Well, I should have known it would be hard to define reality in Hollywood. I should probably look to the place where Truth is the foremost pursuit. The American University.
Speaker 14: What we do in in gender studies is not just reduce gender to what psychologists might call individual differences, but rather thinking about gender. And that's not women and men, but gender as a as a social form, something that kind of infuses itself into virtually all aspects of social life.
Speaker 0: Let's talk about that, then. I guess we should start with we've got gender and sex, right? Yeah. What what's the difference between the 2? Is there a difference?
Speaker 14: I saw that in your questions, and I thought, my goodness, this is what we spend an entire semester kind of thinking through. But what we tend to think about in the social sciences today is that sex refers to a set of biological characteristics, and gender is a social construct or category. What I think is often misleading about that characterization is allowed to be sort of messy and complicated. But in that Framing, when you split them up into these wholly discrete constructs, studies scholars, and and, really, more specifically, people who study gender and sex. We're not talking about Drowley right now.
In the kind of academic universe that I travel in is that we see how deeply gendered ideas, cultural ideas about masculine femininaleness and denaleness, both in humans and in lots of other animals.
Speaker 0: So are gender and sex 2 different things? Or
Speaker 14: Well, I think that they they both are, and they aren't. I'd be I'm comfortable saying that gender and sex are 2 different constructs, but they're deeply intertwined with each other.
Speaker 0: We're talking about gender and and sex, and there's a lot of controversies there. If we're talking about a trans woman, Has all of the male physical characteristics, so would that not be a male then? Couldn't we plainly say This person is a male.
Speaker 14: Well, I guess it's it's like, why are you asking the question? I think I I I wanna understand sort of why that's so important. So if someone tells us
Speaker 0: sort of understand reality, you know?
Speaker 17: Well, I mean, I think
Speaker 14: when someone tells you who they are, you should believe them. So if a person says that they're a woman or they're a man, then that's them telling you their gender is. I'm I'm not so sure why what social, Interactions would have to do with with maleness or femaleness that would
Speaker 9: Well, I
Speaker 0: I'm not even talking about social context. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 14: Yeah. I mean, I'm really uncomfortable with that language of, like, getting to the truth, again, In social life Why is
Speaker 0: that why is that uncomfortable?
Speaker 14: Because that it sounds actually deeply transphobic to me. And if Truth. And if you keep probing, we're gonna stop the interview.
Speaker 0: I If I probe about what the truth is?
Speaker 14: You keep invoking the word truth, which is condescending and rude. I'm saying to you
Speaker 0: How is the word truth condescending and rude?
Speaker 14: Why don't you tell me what your truth is? And you're walking on 30 seconds more of the nights before I get up.
Speaker 0: What my truth is? Well, I don't think I really have a truth. I think that there is just the truth, like the reality. And so we should begin by trying to figure out what the reality is.
Speaker 14: Uh-huh. And why are you concerned with When someone else tells you that they're a man, or even if they use the word male, why are you concerned with not believing them?
Speaker 0: Well, you keep bringing it back to, you know, how do you respond in a social situation? But That's
Speaker 14: what I do. I'm a social scientist.
Speaker 0: Well, right. But we're in a university. This is a place of understanding truth, isn't it? Or Absolutely. We are
Speaker 14: we pursue truth, and I'm a social scientist, and that's what I do.
Speaker 0: But you just said the truth is transphobic.
Speaker 14: That that you would say that you're if you're saying the truth is that I get to say, you're not a man, show me your genitalia, that's transphobic.
Speaker 0: No. No. I don't wanna say anybody's genitalia. I I I just mean, Someone can make a statement about themselves that could be untrue. Like, for example, if I if I were to say that I'm a black man, Could you would you accept that, or would you be skeptical?
Speaker 14: Are you Black? Are you African American? Are you biracial?
Speaker 0: I don't think so. Okay.
Speaker 14: Well, you don't look that, and I don't think that's It doesn't sound like that's a genuine statement of who you are.
Speaker 0: Okay. So that's my point. I I could make a statement about who I am That's incorrect.
Speaker 14: Of course, I think it's well established that human beings can lie, yes.
Speaker 0: Or not even lie. I mean, I could just be mistaken.
Speaker 18: Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 0: how
Speaker 14: much were you going?
Speaker 0: I guess this all comes back, just this all comes down to really 1 question, especially women, gender, and sexuality studies. So what so what What is a woman?
Speaker 14: Why do you ask the question?
Speaker 0: I'd just really like to know.
Speaker 14: What do you think the answer to that question is?
Speaker 0: Well, I'm I'm asking. That's why I came to a college professor who who's this is your this is what you do.
Speaker 14: What other kinds of answers have you gotten?
Speaker 0: A lot of, like, this, where you're where you're not answering. And I've gotten a lot of that, so
Speaker 14: I think it's interesting that you that you say that some of the people you've you've, interviewed have been, I'm reluctant to answer it, and I think that has a lot to do with the way the questions that preceded it and the the way that you've conducted yourself in the interview.
Speaker 0: How have I conducted myself?
Speaker 14: How do you think you've conducted yourself?
Speaker 0: You just really don't want to answer the questions, do you?
Speaker 14: I came today very willing and enthusiastic about answering questions about women's and gender sexuality studies, which is So you wanted to
Speaker 0: you I wanted to answer questions about women's studies. And so shouldn't the the first answer you should be able to provide is what exactly is a woman?
Speaker 14: Well, it's for me, it's it's actually a really answer, and that's a person who identifies as a woman.
Speaker 0: But what are they identifying as? As a woman. I But what is that?
Speaker 14: As a woman.
Speaker 9: Do you
Speaker 0: know what a circular definition is?
Speaker 14: I do.
Speaker 0: It's sort of like what you're doing right now, where a woman is is a woman. Mhmm.
Speaker 14: Well, because you're seeking what we would call, in my field of work, an essentialist Definition of gender. I think it sounds like you would like me to give you a set of biological or cultural characteristics sticks that are associated with 1 gender or the other.
Speaker 0: I'm not seeking any type of definition. I'm just seeking a definition.
Speaker 14: Yeah. And I gave you one.
Speaker 0: Well, now I can say I've been to college. Glad I didn't pay for it. Is there anyone willing to give me a straight answer? Ideally, somebody with a bunch of medical degrees on the wall. Doctor.
Grossman, thanks for talking to us. You're a psychiatrist, medical doctor, and you've done a lot of work in child psychiatry. What is transgenderism from a psychiatric standpoint.
Speaker 12: The best way to approach it is by speaking about gender dysphoria, Which is an intense loathing and discomfort with one's biological sex. They exist Anywhere between 1 in 30,000 people and 1 in a 110,000. It's important to distinguish those people from what's happening much more recently, Which is kids that never had any, discomfort or dysphoria, as it's now called, with their biological sex. And then quite suddenly, as preteens or as as adolescents, They come out, and they announce that they are gender fluid, or they they start to question their Sex. So first, let's define the terms, sex and gender.
Speaker 0: Yes, please.
Speaker 12: Sex is biology. Sex is unchanging. It's based on chromosomes. 99.999% of the cells in the body are marked either male or female. Gender, on the other hand, is a perception.
It's a feeling. It's a way of identifying. It's a it's an experience. Okay. That's subjective.
Speaker 0: It sounds like what you're saying is that if a man is male, but thinks of himself as a woman, He's not actually a woman?
Speaker 12: That's correct.
Speaker 0: Male gametes. That's what makes me male.
Speaker 4: No. Your sperm don't make you male.
Speaker 0: Then what does?
Speaker 4: It's a constellation.
Speaker 0: In reality, in truth, Okay.
Speaker 7: Whose truth are we talking about?
Speaker 0: The same truth that says we're sitting in this room right now, you and I.
Speaker 4: No. You're not listening.
Speaker 0: If I if I see a chicken laying eggs, and I say that's Female chicken laying eggs. Did I assign female, or am I just observing a physical reality that's happening in the world?
Speaker 7: Does a chicken have gender identity? Does a chicken cry?
Speaker 0: Well, a chicken
Speaker 7: Does a chicken commit suicide?
Speaker 4: Let's Because that's what
Speaker 7: frame it. Because you're talking you're trying
Speaker 0: A chicken has sex like any like any biological organism.
Speaker 4: An assigned gender,
Speaker 7: But a chicken doesn't have a gender identity.
Speaker 0: So we assign female to chickens when they lay eggs? That's a We
Speaker 4: assume they're female if they lay eggs.
Speaker 0: Now, I was told that Really, everyone agrees with the current approach to gender and transitioning kids and all of that. And if you don't agree, then you're a dinosaur And a bigot. So are you a bigoted dinosaur?
Speaker 12: I'm not bigoted, and I'm not a dinosaur. I Am rooted in reality and in science.
Speaker 0: Who's a reality?
Speaker 12: There's one reality.
Speaker 0: Girls, 20 under beautiful wings.
Speaker 7: The 1st race that I competed against a transgender athlete was during my freshman year. And once the gun went off, the 2 transgender athletes took off Throughout all 4 years of high school, I was forced to compete against biological males. I only competed against them in the sprinting events. But I raced against these athletes over a dozen times throughout the years and every single time I lost.
Speaker 0: Did did they inch you out of Metals that you would have won otherwise or trophies you would have won?
Speaker 7: They beat me out by 20 meters out of medals and qualifying spots. I missed out on qualifying for New England's. I had and I had to go in the long jump and the 4 by 200 meter relay, so I was forced on the sidelines in my own event. And if they were not there, I would've been able to qualify. So I missed out on so much throughout my high school career.
Speaker 0: Did they win all the events or almost all the events?
Speaker 7: Between the 2 of them, they won every single event they competed in.
Speaker 0: How does that how does that feel?
Speaker 7: It is so frustrating and heartbreaking because we elite female athletes train so hard to shave just fractions of a second off of our time. And going into races knowing that we will never be able to win. It feels like
Speaker 0: all that work gone to waste?
Speaker 7: It does. After so many losses, it just gets to the point of why am I even doing this? Why am I keep training so hard and sacrificing so much just to place 3rd and beyond.
Speaker 0: Case in Connecticut. There were 2 male track runners, trans
Speaker 19: They were trans girls. Right.
Speaker 0: And who who decided that, they were gonna race against the girls. And you look at the those individuals, you look at their times against the men, against the boys, so they were kind of middle of the pack. And then they're raising the girls, so they're, you know, 1st and 2nd place. Is that indicative of some kind of unfair advantage that those individuals might have against the girls?
Speaker 19: No. It's not indicative of an unfair advantage. And I think part of the proof of this Is that more transgender girls are coming out in high school and still playing sports and they're not winning. You know, the Connecticut case is the exception. It got a lot of attention because those 2 trans girls performed well.
But there are many, many more trans girls competing in sports And they don't excel.
Speaker 0: Yeah, we're gonna open it.
Speaker 9: At the
Speaker 19: end of the day, whether or not you win a game is not just is about how hard you work in your practice, and most of us aren't gonna win. And that goes for transgender athletes too. The norm is that transgender youth don't win that much in sports games.
Speaker 20: Alana McLaughlin was very appreciative for Provost to take this fight. And now I appreciative it's now, but she got a couple punches in.
Speaker 19: It is The very much the exception when a transgender young person does win.
Speaker 9: And the
Speaker 19: only a few people are going to lead the pack.
Speaker 10: There are some slight differences, but does it translate to competitive advantage? I think you'd be very hard pressed to prove that.
Speaker 19: If there was a big advantage to being transgender in sports, Then we would see transgender women totally dominate.
Speaker 21: And over the last half of the pool, nobody will touch Leah
Speaker 22: Transgender swimmer Leah Thomas breaking barriers And records. But in a new article, Sports Illustrated calls the college senior the most controversial athlete in America.
Speaker 15: Leah obviously helps us do better. Right. Leah's swimming really fast. Leah's performance helps the University of Pennsylvania swim team. The feeling of winning doesn't feels good anymore because it feels tainted.
There was a lot of things you couldn't talk about that were very concerning, like a locker room situation. If you even brought up concerns about it, You were transphobic. If you even bring up the fact that Leah Swimming might not be fair, you were immediately shut down as being called a hateful person or transphobic.
Speaker 0: There's never any conversation. The coaches don't sit everyone down and acknowledge what everyone's really upset about.
Speaker 15: So Penn actually brought in people high up in the athletic department to talk to us. They brought in someone from, like, the LGBTQ center. They brought in someone from the Psychological services.
Speaker 0: So you you're upset about what's happening, and so you need psychological help.
Speaker 15: Yeah. And they told us in this meeting, they said, look. We understand there's an array of emotions, but Leah's swimming is a nonnegotiable. However, we can help you make that okay. That's what we're here
Speaker 0: So you're anonymous for this interview. Why did you decide that you can't have your face out there saying these things?
Speaker 15: They've made it pretty clear that if you speak up about it and you say negative that, like, your life will be over in some way. Like, you'll be lost at all over the Internet as a transphobe if you come out, and then you'll never be able to get a job. Like, anyone who wants to hire you will look you up and see you're transphobic and your life will be over.
Speaker 0: Let's say that I identified as a woman tomorrow, And I wanted to go into the same locker room where you are. Should I be allowed to do that as long as I
Speaker 15: I don't know. I just feel that other women would be uncomfortable while you walking in there.
Speaker 14: Controversy at a health club in Koreatown over the issue of gender.
Speaker 4: That's right. Video of spa goers complaining was posted on social media.
Speaker 23: I just wanna be clear with you. It's okay. It's okay for a man to go into the women's section, show his penis Around the other women, young little girls underage, your spa, we spa condone that. Is that
Speaker 9: what you're saying?
Speaker 23: Like I asked. It's so he so he can stay there. He can stay there?
Speaker 13: Sexual orientation.
Speaker 23: But sexual orientation. I see a dick.
Speaker 24: Police identified the person involved As 52 year old Darren Moregaier of Riverside County. Moregaier, who has been a registered sex offender since 2006, now faces 5 felony counts of indecent exposure.
Speaker 18: Hello. I'm congressman Mark Takano. Trans month of visibility is a time to recognize the strength, diversity, and resiliency of the transgender community. Together, we can make our country and our world a more accepting place by speaking out against transphobia at the source and supporting the trans community by getting the Equality Act signed into law.
Speaker 0: Congressman, thank you for for being here. Thanks for joining us. You are the first Member of congress who's a member of the LGBT community and also a person of Asian descent. You're also a big proponent of the Equality Act. Yes?
What is the Equality Act? If you were to just summarize it very briefly. I know it does a lot.
Speaker 18: The most simplest way to talk about the Equality Act is that it simply amends the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include sexual orientation and gender identity. So public accommodations, is one area.
Speaker 0: What's a way that someone who's LGBT is Could be discriminated in public accommodations currently.
Speaker 18: Currently, you know, public accommodations is the whole area of, you know, Hotels and motels and
Speaker 0: Bathrooms and sports teams. Is that
Speaker 18: I say bathrooms, sports teams, athletic events.
Speaker 0: Let's get into more specific policy issues. There are some women who say, and I've I've talked to a few who say this. They say, hey, you know, I'd like some Privacy in the bathroom. I'd prefer not to encounter naked penises, frankly. They say even that the penis is a telltale sign that someone is a male.
I mean, there there are people who've Kind of really bought into the to the rumor that, only men have penises. What How do we account for that? How do you respond to that?
Speaker 18: Well, Well, what I would say is that, most transgender people, that I know, and it's a very, I think, distinct minority of people. It's a very it's a it is a it is a very, I think, we're talking not about a lot of people. I think a person who wants the who's a woman's bathroom who identifies as transgender really does think of themselves as a female. So how we go about trying to, you know, Respect their basic right to live, I think, will be in, of course, an important part of this law and, bathrooms wait a minute. Bathrooms are bathrooms are, you know, Where you wanna take this conversation instead of the basic right to dislike is something that I'm kind of mystified that you're kind of not focusing on first.
So we're going straight to the controversy over bathrooms. So you know what? I think this interview is over. Yeah. Yeah.
I think I think this interview is over.
Speaker 0: I just had 1 last question.
Speaker 18: Well, I I I the interview is over.
Speaker 0: We want to know what what
Speaker 18: is a woman. Please, just drop the camera.
Speaker 0: Just please cut.
Speaker 7: So we're gonna end the interview. If you guys could please pack up and return the I
Speaker 0: just wanted to know. That's it. Okay. I came all this way to know what Thank you. For the fair quote, I just wanted to know what is a woman?
Speaker 9: And you're
Speaker 7: not gonna find out.
Speaker 0: My trip to California isn't providing many answers, But at least I'm making new friends. You worry about kids walking around out here?
Speaker 25: No. Because, I raised 2 daughters. They're 2 of the most well adjusted adults, they grew up around naked people. And, there's been studies that have shown that children raised around non sexual nudity actually Have fewer hang ups when they're adults.
Speaker 0: People do have hang ups. There's a lot of things hanging right now Yep. During this conversation. Can anyone be any gender they wanna be? Can a man become a woman if he wants to be?
Speaker 25: I leave the I mean, what people do with with that's personal choice. People can live the life they want to. I mean, I'm trying to live, the life I want to, an authentic it's
Speaker 0: safe and
Speaker 25: I that's why I respect other people's rights and to choose what they wanna do.
Speaker 1: Well, why are you asking a gay man as to what it means to be a woman? You should be asking women what it means to be women, especially trans women, who what it means to be women.
Speaker 0: I'm asking all kinds of people. Can anyone have an opinion about it?
Speaker 1: Only people who are women. Gay men don't know nothing about what it means to be a woman.
Speaker 0: Have you told gay men here in San Francisco that they're not allowed to talk about
Speaker 1: No. But I have it's not like I come around and say what a gay man is allowed to be.
Speaker 0: So you're saying so you're saying if you're not a woman, then you shouldn't have an opinion?
Speaker 26: Who does a guy get a
Speaker 1: right to say what a woman is? Women only know what women are.
Speaker 0: Are you a, cat? No.
Speaker 9: Can you
Speaker 0: tell me what a cat is?
Speaker 1: This is actually a genuine mistake. I am sorry I even came up there.
Speaker 0: Do you wanna tell us what a woman is? If my friend in the purple hat is correct, and only women can tell me what a woman is. I guess I need to go where the women are. What what is a woman? Can you tell me that?
Oh, you're at the Women's March. You must have some idea. So I see girls, vagina. Does that mean that they're the only people who could get pregnant?
Speaker 7: If men could get pregnant too, I think they want the right to choose.
Speaker 0: But they but men can get pregnant?
Speaker 7: We're saying someone who was born as a woman but identifies as a man. That's a real man.
Speaker 0: It's a real man?
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 0: So they can so men can get pregnant?
Speaker 7: Yes. If we say yes. They have the parts
Speaker 5: to do so.
Speaker 0: Is it just women that give birth? Or is it
Speaker 7: Or I guess, Yeah.
Speaker 0: So so men so men can give birth
Speaker 7: to with a vagina.
Speaker 0: Well, that could be a man or a woman.
Speaker 9: Well, I
Speaker 7: mean, I think that's the whole point. Right? That it's fluid. The way that we define these things changes a lot.
Speaker 9: What are you doing?
Speaker 0: I'm asking these questions. Okay.
Speaker 9: I'm trying
Speaker 0: to figure out what a woman is. That's why I'm here. This is the women's march. I figured it's a good place to find out. I've come all this way to ask that question.
Can anyone tell me what a woman is?
Speaker 9: Do not care for women. We ask you to leave.
Speaker 0: What is that? How am I harassing?
Speaker 9: Can I ask
Speaker 0: you a question?
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Speaker 0: Why is a woman can can anyone here at the women's march tell me what a woman is? How about you tell me what a woman is, and I'll put a mask on. Sir, tell me what a woman is, and I'll put a mask on. Princess officer. Please, if if 1 person could tell
Speaker 1: me what a woman is.
Speaker 9: Do you
Speaker 0: guys know what a woman is by any chance?
Speaker 9: No idea.
Speaker 0: I've been all over America. I still can't find an answer. Maybe I'm looking too close to home. We came a long way to Come and talk to you guys, thousands of miles from from America. So thank you for inviting us into your tribe, first of all.
Speaker 1: I can say It is my pleasure to to meet you and,
Speaker 11: feel most welcome. But, you are here to learn with me. I'm here to learn with you too. Great.
Speaker 0: What's the right form here?
Speaker 11: You still?
Speaker 0: Just With the elbow?
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 0: I mean, they're laughing, so I guess it's not good, but I thought it was pretty good. Not good enough to be a man yet in your tribe, but what does a man do? What what are his roles Within the tribe. At the role of a
Speaker 11: man, you need to work for your woman. Secondly, to have children. If you have children and you don't have something to feed them, you are not still a man.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 11: With the blood.
Speaker 9: It
Speaker 0: was the best raw kidney I've had in my life. What if a man decides that he wants to do the roles of a woman?
Speaker 11: In Maasai Community, it will not exist at all.
Speaker 0: Doesn't exist? What if a man decides that his his gender identity is is woman.
Speaker 11: A woman has its own duty and a man has its own duty. And a lady cannot do the duty of a man. And a man cannot do a duty of a woman.
Speaker 0: Can a man become a No. No? No. What about a transgender? Transgender.
Speaker 1: No. No? It will look like
Speaker 11: to if you want to become a lady but you're a man, you have something wrong in your mind. Something wrong in your family.
Speaker 0: What about if someone was nonbinary?
Speaker 11: Come again?
Speaker 0: Nonbinary? Uh-huh. Do you know, Like, non Like, someone is is Yeah. Someone's like someone is is neither. There's something else.
Is that
Speaker 11: He's saying we have never seen things like those. For a man, he has a penis. For a woman, he has a vagina. So we know this is a lady, this is a man.
Speaker 0: What if it's a woman with a What if it's a woman with a penis?
Speaker 11: Both.
Speaker 1: People are laughing. Is that is that a dumb question? They're just laughing because they have never hear something like that. This is their first time.
Speaker 0: Never heard it before.
Speaker 11: A woman have a penis and she's a woman.
Speaker 0: In my country, I can't go a day without hearing it. We hear it every day. So in my country, sometimes you'll hear people say, a man will say, I that I'm a I'm a woman trapped in a man's body and so they say that I have a woman trapped inside
Speaker 11: They want to know a woman has the breast. Breast. Yes. Secondly, he has he has a vagina.
Speaker 0: Vagina.
Speaker 11: And the question is, does this man deliver?
Speaker 0: Does he deliver babies? No. Not as far as I know.
Speaker 11: The question is, Let's say if you want to sleep a woman, definitely you'll do sex.
Speaker 0: Sex with a woman.
Speaker 11: And you the vagina. Is it? But For the man, where do you react that question.
Speaker 0: I don't know all the logistics of it. Based on what I'm saying, would you ever wanna move to America?
Speaker 9: So
Speaker 11: they say no. Never.
Speaker 0: What what is a woman if you had to give it a definition?
Speaker 11: She say, a woman delivered, a man cannot.
Speaker 0: So it sounds like you all you don't spend a lot of time thinking about Gender. You don't you just kind of live your lives? You don't think much about it?
Speaker 11: He said, No. Because we believe that's a good plan. God's plan. He's saying that I'm shocked on what you are telling
Speaker 14: He's shocked. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Masai people don't think much about gender, But they have a firm sense of their identity. It's clear that gender ideology is a uniquely western phenomenon. So where did all this come from? Who came up with it and why?
Speaker 12: Matt, I I want I want to show this to you. You're Parent, right? Okay. It's perfectly normal for 10 years and up. Here's just 1 page I want you See
Speaker 9: here?
Speaker 0: For 10 and up,
Speaker 12: It's It's unspeakable what these people have done to our children.
Speaker 0: When did that start? When was it decided that we need to start teaching kids about this stuff at such a young age?
Speaker 12: So I'll Answer that with 1 word, Kinsey. Kinsey was a social reformer. He wanted to rid society of Judeo Christian values when it came to sexuality. And he worked very hard to do that, and I would say succeeded.
Speaker 0: Kinsey would be very happy with our culture today. His idea was that children are sexual from birth that were all inherently sexual creatures from cradle to grave. He believed that true happiness is found in a life of perverse sexual experimentation no matter the age.
Speaker 12: What came out is that his research was fraudulent.
Speaker 0: Kinsey based his fraudulent conclusions on data he collected from convicted Sex offenders and child molesters. His research was conducted in prisons, not everyday America. He also performed horrific sexual experiments on children, Some under the age of 1. His most influential book, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, contains an infamous This chart called table 34, which documents the orgasms of very young kids, including babies as young as 5 months old. But instead of suffering the consequences for his heinous actions, he was and still is celebrated by academia and Hollywood.
His ideas form the foundation for sexual education in public schools today. How do we get from this to you can choose your own gender?
Speaker 12: Okay. Well, now we have Another and very important character, and his name was John Money.
Speaker 0: John Money was a psychologist and professor at Johns Hopkins Diversity. Gender ideology was his brainchild. In fact, he coined the terms gender identity and gender roles. And according to Money, Babies are gender neutral at birth, and ultimately, environment determines whether a person is a man or a woman.
Speaker 12: Money was telling the world about his theory that a boy could be raised as a girl and do just fine and vice versa.
Speaker 0: And so money tried out is theory on 2 young twin boys, the Reimer twins?
Speaker 12: When the twins were 8 months old and they went to be circumcised, the 1st twin, whose name was Bruce, something went wrong with the machinery, and his penis was burnt off. They stopped and didn't do a 2nd circumcision on the other twin, as you might imagine. And the parents, of course, didn't know what to do. How are they gonna raise This child.
Speaker 0: John Money convinced Bruce's parents to transition him into a girl. Money also conducted sexually abusive experiments on the twins throughout their childhood, including forcing them to simulate sex acts on each other.
Speaker 12: He reported up to the age of 10 that this was a complete success. Well, Wasn't true.
Speaker 0: The results were a disaster. Bruce could never fully accept his female identity. Eventually, his parents told him the truth and he chose to transition back to a boy, taking the name David. As an adult, David spoke out about the abuse and the damage done to him by John Money.
Speaker 27: The girls would do their things with their Barbies and things like that, and That wouldn't interest me.
Speaker 4: Mhmm.
Speaker 9: And,
Speaker 27: things such as
Speaker 0: trucks
Speaker 27: and, rowing forts and, you know, getting to the odd fist Fighting Mhmm. Climbing trees, that's the kind of stuff that I like. But it was unacceptable. So I'd never As
Speaker 23: a girl.
Speaker 27: As as a girl, I had no place to to fit in.
Speaker 12: The trauma that he and his brother and his entire family went through left deep scars. His brother died of an overdose, when he was 38 and then David died, committed suicide.
Speaker 0: There was never a retraction or an apology from John Money. Instead, his ideas were adopted by mainstream psychology, and they formed the basis of gender ideology today. Why don't more people know about John Money and
Speaker 12: Evidently, there are forces that don't want this information out.
Speaker 8: I I never fit. I was, I was an alpha female, a sales executive that kinda just didn't fit in any box. When psychologists or somebody that I was in love with or whatever said that I was in the wrong body, I started to think, well, Maybe I am. I'm a biological woman that medically transitioned to appear like a male through synthetic hormones and surgery. I will never be a man.
Is it transphobic for me to tell the truth? Why is it that a couple 100 years from now, if you dug up my body, they're gonna go, yep, that was a woman, Had babies.
Speaker 0: Can you tell me about the procedures that you you had?
Speaker 8: I've had 7 surgeries. I've had 1 stress heart attack. I've had a helicopter life ride, with a pulmonary embolism. I've had, 17 rounds of antibiotics. I had 6 inches of hair on the inside of my urethra for 17 months.
Nobody would help me, including the doctor that did this to me because I lost my insurance. I get infections every 3 to 4 months. I'm probably not going to live very long.
Speaker 0: Was there any real discussion of the Risks and side effects and
Speaker 9: No. No,
Speaker 8: there's not. And I know that people want
Speaker 28: to think that there is,
Speaker 8: but there's not. The truth is is that medical transition is experimental. We have, studies that said That medical transition helps mental health, helps mental health with kids. They've all been retracted, modified, changed. But the only long term study tells us 7 to 10 years is when transgender people are the most suicidal.
Speaker 14: After? After Surgery.
Speaker 8: But that's transphobic to say. For the first time in history, a marginalized group has a huge dollar sign on the top of their head. We have 5 children's hospitals in the United States Promoting that.
Speaker 0: And what?
Speaker 8: That's a phalloplasty. That's a bottom surgery. We have 5 children's hospitals in the United States telling girls that they can be boys At $70,000 a pop in a surgery that has a 67% Complication rate. That will kill me from infection that I can't sue on. We're butchering a generation of children because nobody's willing to talk about anything.
I have 3 kids At the age that they're doing this to kids, I'm not transphobic. I love my kids, and I love other people's kids, and you should too. This is wrong
Speaker 0: Can kids consent? Do you think kids are No. Capable of consenting to this?
Speaker 8: No. They're not. Being a parent
Speaker 0: What's the what's the youngest patient that you've operated on?
Speaker 10: The youngest patient I've done vaginoplasty on, is age 16. Do you worry that minors
Speaker 0: Just don't understand enough about themselves? They're not neurologically developed enough yet to make permanent life altering decisions? Absolutely not.
Speaker 12: A young person's self perception, one day they may be clear, the next day they may be totally confused And you're affirming it with hormones that have never been used in this way in the in the field of medicine.
Speaker 0: You're talking about puberty blockers?
Speaker 12: Blockers and then opposite sex hormones.
Speaker 0: At what age does the medical transition With, medication.
Speaker 4: So medical affirmation begins when the patient says they're ready for it. So that could be a a kiddo who is just starting puberty and panicking because they're getting breast buds or their penis is Getting bigger and busier and they're worried about all kinds of masculine changes. And that way, puberty blockers, which are completely reversible and don't have permanent effects are wonderful because we can put that pause on puberty. It's like if you were listening to music, you put the pause on and we stop the blockers and puberty would go right back to where it was. The next note in the song just delayed that period of time.
Speaker 0: You can just pause puberty
Speaker 8: No. You can't.
Speaker 0: And then pick it up No.
Speaker 19: You can't.
Speaker 0: For the future.
Speaker 8: No. You can't. How many studies do they have, long term studies, on hormone blockers with children? None.
Speaker 12: I just spoke a month or two ago with a mother whose 14 year old daughter was put on blockers. They discovered after 2 years, this 14 year old girl has Osteoporosis, that's something that, like, old women get.
Speaker 0: How can doctors assure parents that a certain medicine is totally safe Based on what you're saying, they can't possibly know that.
Speaker 12: How can they be removing the healthy breasts of 15 year old girls? How can they be sterilizing kids? How can this whole thing be happening, Matt?
Speaker 8: Every child that they convince is is transgender and in need of medical transition. It generates $1,300,000 to pharma. And we're believing a pharmaceutical company, Lupron, hormone blockers, reversible, so they say. Well, the truth is is that in 2003, Lupron was Sued and deemed a criminal enterprise by the US government. They paid the most fine of any pharmaceutical company at that time, $874,000,000, wrote a check.
Speaker 0: Is Lupron chemical castration?
Speaker 11: Yes.
Speaker 8: We're giving it to pedophiles, aren't we? We're giving it to people that are dying, and we're giving it to kids telling them that they were born in the wrong body and it's completely safe.
Speaker 0: One of the drugs used is Lupron, right, which has actually been used to chemically castrate sex offenders?
Speaker 4: You know what? I'm not sure that we should continue with this interview because it seems like it's going in a particular direction.
Speaker 0: Well, you're a medical professional.
Speaker 4: I am a medical Professional.
Speaker 0: So you don't wanna talk about the drugs that you give to kids or?
Speaker 7: Again,
Speaker 4: I'm a physician and I use medication. You're choosing exploitive words. Drugs I give to you
Speaker 0: I'm choosing a
Speaker 4: chemical dictionary.
Speaker 0: Word that was in a dictionary.
Speaker 4: That's not a correct term for I
Speaker 0: can look it up on my phone, but I'm pretty sure if I looked it up You
Speaker 4: you can look it up on your phone.
Speaker 0: It says medical definition, the administration of a drug to bring about a marked reduction The body's production of androgens and especially testosterone.
Speaker 4: And I'm saying as a pediatrician who takes care of hundreds of these kids, when you use that terminology, You were being malignant and harmful.
Speaker 0: I mean, there are some who would say that giving chemical castration drugs to kids is malignant and harmful.
Speaker 4: It's about the context of caring a child and and seeing the the suffering that kids can have that have not been in affirmative home situations.
Speaker 0: Do you say to the claim that, well, we have to do this for these kids because if we don't, they'll kill themselves? They'll That they'll resort to drugs and self harm.
Speaker 12: A lot of them were hurting themselves. A lot of them were suicidal before they even discovered gender. That is never part of the discussion. And they say, what would you rather have, A a living daughter or a dead son. If this is what the professionals are saying, it's terrible emotional blackmail.
Speaker 0: Hello? Hey. Is this
Speaker 11: This is. Yes.
Speaker 0: Hey. It's it's Matt Walsh. Are you where are you right now?
Speaker 26: I'm, I'm in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada right now.
Speaker 0: Are you can are you able to leave?
Speaker 26: I'm not able to leave BC. I can't even go to another province in Canada right now, and it's because I'm technically out on bail.
Speaker 0: What happened exactly? How exactly did this get into the courts To begin with Right.
Speaker 26: So what happened is we set up a meeting with BC Children's Hospital. And according to the BC Children's Hospital website, There's gonna be a thorough evaluation, and I'm thinking, good. This is gonna be the end of it all. You're gonna clearly see that my child is not the opposite Sacks. So my ex wife brings my child into BC Children's Hospital.
I get a call less than an hour into that appointment is that they were gonna pump her full across Hormoz within the hour, and I put a halt to that. I said, no. They agreed to to stop for the moment. They figured, well, let's get the dad on board to you. This all gonna be better.
Let's just get everybody on the same page. I said it's not gonna happen. So I get a letter from BC Children's Hospital in December of 2018, And it says that under the BC Infants Act, they will start injecting my child with cross sex hormones, and I have 2 weeks to respond with legal action if I so choose. And
Speaker 0: So you called your daughter a she, and you You went to jail for that?
Speaker 26: That's considered criminal violence to, not use the preferred pronouns. It is no different than, let's say, I were to take a broomstick and whack one of my kids over the head, so they were treating it in a similar fashion that misgendering, mispronouncing my child was the equivalent of family violence.
Speaker 0: Is she on the hormone pills now?
Speaker 26: She is. The court ordered that she could do whatever she wanted.
Speaker 28: 2010 until, I would say, 2016, I would say 80% of my clients were trans youth. Now How it is you identify, you take hormones, you do surgery. There isn't any other pathways.
Speaker 0: So if you have 2 parents, 1 parent wants to affirm the trans identity, the other parent doesn't. Who wins that battle?
Speaker 28: The one who wants to affirm.
Speaker 0: Every time?
Speaker 28: Every single time. The goal is to get the parents to affirm the kid.
Speaker 21: There's no such thing as a gender affirming therapist. That's a contradiction in terms.
Speaker 0: Why?
Speaker 21: Because you don't affirm if you're a therapist. It's not your business to affirm. You come to see me because there's something wrong. Maybe you come to see me because a destructive element of you is wreaking havoc in your life. I'm on the side of the part of you that wants to aim up, man.
That's what I'm on the side of. Okay. Now I don't know what that means in your case, but we're gonna talk about it. Am I gonna affirm what you think? No.
It's not up to me to affirm it. You don't get a casual pat on the back from a therapist for your preexisting axiomatic conclusions. That's not therapy. That's a rubber
Speaker 0: Is anybody at any point explaining to these kids the the the real long term consequences of hormones and Jeffrey Lockers.
Speaker 28: I don't think they're explaining it to the kids. So that has frightened me that it's become that we're even Talking to the kids about it at 10, they're we're presenting it in schools.
Speaker 0: So this generation, they're the they're the lab rats?
Speaker 21: Biological sex, Binary. It's been binary for, like, a 100000000 years, longer than that. Temperament is not binary. Temperament or personality.
Speaker 0: So it's gender. Temperament is gender? Well, gender is not
Speaker 21: a good word because it's vague, and it isn't measurable.
Speaker 0: So do we need it? Why can't we just say temperament? Do we even need the word gender for?
Speaker 9: Well, I
Speaker 21: don't eat it. But what I would say is that people who talk about the diversity in gender are Actually talking about diversity and personality and temperament, but they don't know it. You can have a masculine temperament if you're a woman. Maybe 1 in 10 women have the average temperament of a man. And you can have feminine men temperamentally.
And it's not that uncommon because the differences between men and women temperamentally Aren't that great. There are masculine girls, there are feminine boys. What are we gonna do about that? Carve them up?
Speaker 0: You as someone who started your professional life, you know, transgender care Yeah. Now you're sitting here talking to me. And I'm a dangerous man, I've been told.
Speaker 28: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: Are you worried about reprisals? Are you worried about how this is gonna this is gonna play among your, professional peers?
Speaker 28: I am worried that I can't have conversations with any other peers. I don't know any other peer that will speak to me around these things that question it. I just don't think, developmentally, this is helpful to our children.
Speaker 21: You Step wrong as a therapist. You say the wrong thing once and, like, your bloody career is over. And now it's the same with physicians. How's that gonna work? You're gonna go have an honest conversation your physician, but he's terrified out of his mind that he'll say something politically incorrect during the diagnostic processes.
Hey, man. You're sick with whatever you wanna be. See you later. You want a prescription for something?
Speaker 29: I left academia because the climate had become Too stifling politically, especially when it comes to the topic of gender identity and the science of gender, it is absolutely impossible to do good research. You basically have to decide beforehand what you're going to find so that you don't upset activists, and that is not how you do science.
Speaker 0: Why has this shift occurred where all of a sudden Gender and sex have become so politically and culturally charged.
Speaker 29: There's a really ugly history between sex researchers and transgender activists. In the past, if any sex researcher spoke out about science that went against Activist orthodoxy or particular narratives that activists wanted to promote, they would basically have their personal and professional reputations ruined. So what you see is that only Experts who toe the party line and say the things that activists like, those are the people who get attention. Those are the people who get lifted up in the media. And also, I would say people are incentivized to go along with the activist narratives and gender ideology because that helps their career.
Speaker 17: Trans is very cool. Trans is a way of of of giving yourself value, given the way society at the moment is functioning. All of the things that used to give us anchors of identity have become very fluid or very volatile in recent years. And into that context, I think what what you find then is is new identities start to to fill the void of the vacuum, Whereas in the past, I might have got my sense of self worth from being part of the village where I grew up. Now I might get my sense of self worth through being Part of the online community that I connect with or part of the the sexual identity community.
Speaker 28: So now we are Seeing kids that are identifying as animals going to school and they are purring instead of answering questions and they meow, and the teachers are not allowed to question it because it's considered a queer identity.
Speaker 0: So you have kids that are going to school, and they're saying, I'm a cat.
Speaker 9: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: And the teachers have to Affirm them as a cat.
Speaker 8: Yes. So
Speaker 12: it's not
Speaker 0: just literal literal zoos now, basically.
Speaker 28: They are.
Speaker 30: I am a 27 year old transgender woman. I am a wolf therian and a member of the furry fandom.
Speaker 0: When and how did you discover this inner wolfness?
Speaker 30: Probably around age 10 or 11. I was watching An anime about wolves and see the wolf running across the screen, and I'm somehow just intrinsically, like, oh, that's me.
Speaker 0: Have you spent any time around Biological wolves?
Speaker 11: Yes.
Speaker 0: That sounds dangerous also. What what context are you?
Speaker 30: So I was a volunteer with a preserve, and I've I've So visited many wolf preserves.
Speaker 0: Are you able to communicate with the wolves?
Speaker 30: Am I gonna have a conversation with a wolf In the way that I'm communicating you and I, obviously not. Am I going to read their body language, respond appropriately to their behaviors and their nonverbal cues, yes.
Speaker 0: Would you be able would you be able to give us an example of less wolf communication?
Speaker 30: No. I'm not comfortable doing so.
Speaker 0: Okay. All right. How exactly have these ideas become so Pervasive. 1st of all, I think we
Speaker 17: need to remember that in the west at least, we have it drilled into our minds from childhood onwards, that personal happiness is the key to individual flourishing. Secondly, we think of ourselves in psychological terms. I am my feelings. And in order for me to be happy, I have to be able to express my feelings. I have to be outwardly that which I feel myself to be inwardly.
Thirdly, we're taught that Interfering with somebody else's happiness is very bad. We need to acknowledge that there are powerful lobby groups, powerful cultural and political lobby groups Driving this thing. Hollywood is pressing LGBTQ plus matters in so many movies. We're seeing it in the way Amazon sets up its algorithms. There are all kinds of factors in society that are pushing What would really be numerically a fairly minority interest into being one of the main political focal points of this generation.
Speaker 2: After my operation, I will be a woman.
Speaker 7: And why can't she just be a lesbian? Because she's
Speaker 6: not a lesbian mom. She's a boy. Because I was born in a girl's body.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 20: The whole idea of social contagion that there could be something in one social environment that could play some role in somebody coming out identifying as trans. Would you say that that is definitely part of your story?
Speaker 31: When I look Back, I don't think I would have ever even considered in seeing myself as a boy without these social aspects, Especially if I hadn't joined these online communities.
Speaker 7: I identify as non binary. I'll officially be changing my Pronouns to theythem.
Speaker 5: My pronouns are hehim and demon demonself.
Speaker 7: I've been going by theythem pronouns for 4 years now. I'm very comfortable with it. How you say Hey, those pronouns.
Speaker 31: There was literally a period of a few weeks to a few months. I started out as an ally, and then eventually, I was starting to identify as transgender.
Speaker 9: We
Speaker 8: are trans models.
Speaker 29: So they go on the Internet, and they're told that all their problems will be solved if they Become a man.
Speaker 12: Kids are being taught, you might feel like you're a boy even if you have a vagina and you're a girl. You are What you feel you are.
Speaker 6: Some people are girls, some are boys, some are both, some are neither. Gender is all about how we feel on the inside and how we express Theirselves.
Speaker 7: The gender fluid teacher. What do I go by in the classroom?
Speaker 23: I go by teacher Bambourini.
Speaker 32: As a queer and trans teacher, my agenda is to show little boys that They don't have to be, like, as stereotypically masculine. They can, like, paint their nails and wear earrings and, like, still be a guy. And, like, it can be cool.
Speaker 0: So you worry that there there could be a Sort of social contagion element of this?
Speaker 10: A teeny tiny bit, maybe.
Speaker 31: Looking back on it, it was the same pattern. Just kids who are really Struggling kids who were very alone and isolated.
Speaker 12: They have anxiety. They don't fit in with their peers. They don't know where they belong.
Speaker 31: Maybe they didn't have welcoming family life. They just got caught up in these communities online.
Speaker 12: Then they discover, hey. There's just this group of people. And they also don't fit in. They're different. They're not sure who they are.
Gee. That's where I fit in.
Speaker 16: Today is the The day before my top surgery, I am waking up tomorrow at 5 AM to have a subcutaneous mastectomy.
Speaker 8: We're telling children when they haven't fully that all you have to do is medically transition, and you fit in. I was one of those kids. It Got me at 42. Your child doesn't have a chance.
Speaker 15: Trans arise. This is only going in one direction. You will respect us.
Speaker 19: As parents Come to understand more about gender identity. Kids are coming out at younger ages.
Speaker 10: It's exciting. And you know who gets it right? Is this next generation?
Speaker 4: The next generation who's already telling us that our antiquated ideas of things have to be a certain way just don't Apply to them.
Speaker 10: They're rejecting a lot of our social mores. They're tweaking the system.
Speaker 31: I just don't think it's realistic to put this decision on them that is basically saying, Are you okay with the risk of permanent health effects that you can never ever reverse? How can you ask that of such a small child?
Speaker 4: I'm a physician, and I use medication.
Speaker 10: Certainly, it's a bit of a Faustian bargain.
Speaker 4: Puberty blockers, which are completely reversible.
Speaker 14: You keep invoking the word truth, which is condescending and rude.
Speaker 6: Some women have penises. Right? Some men have Maginas.
Speaker 7: Does a chicken cry? Does a chicken commit suicide?
Speaker 6: I'm not a woman, so I I can't really answer that.
Speaker 13: I guess because I got a dick.
Speaker 0: Somehow this madness has infected our entire society. Am I the crazy one? I'm done asking questions.
Speaker 33: Tanner Cross is on administrative leave for what he said about gender identity. He said he would not call a student who's transgender by their preferred pronoun.
Speaker 34: Can't lie to children, and and I gotta also represent a whole community that believes in biological facts and scientific facts. And I just can't I can't do that to kids.
Speaker 7: You get into teaching because you love Kids, this policy started coming into play, and I was like, wait a minute. It's causing me I'm gonna have to lie to my kids, the ones I've always wanted to protect. Do we have Assaults in our bathrooms or our locker rooms regularly.
Speaker 35: To my knowledge, we don't have any records of It's all occurring in our restroom. The predator transgender is or person simply, it does not exist.
Speaker 36: The Virginia Department of Education says it is now reviewing whether the Loudoun County School District has Reported cases of sexual assault. This comes after a 15 year old was charged on 2 separate occasions for assaulting 2 different students at different schools. Dozens rallying tonight at Loudoun County to protest the school's policies.
Speaker 7: So that includes limiting who can talk during public comment portions of board meetings. 1 speaker leased property in the area just so he could speak tonight. FOX five's Perris Jones is live with the details.
Speaker 35: That's right. Conservative commentator Matt Walsh told me he's leasing out someone's basement in Loudoun County so he'd be able to speak during tonight's meeting.
Speaker 0: I decided last week to fulfill my lifelong dream of being a, a Loudoun County resident. You know, I've always felt like I've lived in Tennessee. I felt sort of like a Virginian Trapped in a Tennessean's body. I identify as sort of state fluid, I guess.
Speaker 7: This is Matt Walsh. He tweeted, how do you do, fellow Virginian?
Speaker 0: Now I just gotta explain to my wife and kids that we're gonna be staying in someone's basement. They tried to muzzle me by not allowing me to speak. And when that didn't work, they tried to muzzle me with a mask. I would thank you all for allowing me to speak to you tonight, but you try not to allow it yet here I am. Now you only give us 60 seconds, so let me get to the mean, you are all child abusers.
You prey upon impressionable children and indoctrinate them into your insane ideological cult, A cult which holds many fanatical views, but none so deranged as the idea that boys are girls and girls are boys. By imposing this vile nonsense on students the point even of forcing young girls to share locker rooms with boys, you deprive these kids of safety and privacy and something more fundamental too, which is truth. If education is not grounded in truth, then it is worthless. Worse, it is poison. You are poison.
You are predators. I can see why you try to stop us from You know that your ideas are indefensible. You silence the opposing side because you have no argument. You can only hide under your beds Little gutless cowards hoping we shut up and go away, but we won't. I promise you that.
Johnny is a boy with a big imagination. One day, he's a dog. The next day, a crustacean. Johnny's mom loves her son's make believe time. You're Johnny the walrus till you change your mind.
Speaker 21: Matt Walsh is out with a new children's book. The book is called Johnny the Walrus. What is this about? It's sold out on Amazon in a few hours.
Speaker 0: So I have embraced my true calling as a as a children's author, hence, the cardigan. The book is about, a little boy who's very imaginative and and playful. And, like, I have 4 kids, and they all have an imagination. Yeah. And he likes to pretend to be different things.
And one day, he pretends to be a walrus. And Unfortunately, his mother is, is very progressive and thus confused. And so she's convinced by the Internet and by society that if your child is is identifying as something, then he really is that thing. And so she tries to raise her child as a walrus, as a sort of trans walrus, his self identity. And 1 morning, he came downstairs barking and clapping, wood spoons for tusks and sock fins a Flapping.
It spoons his mouth. He's pretending to be a walrus. I'm Johnny the walrus, he said with a Or
Speaker 37: This is a hot topic. Yes. That's a good thing. Right?
Speaker 14: Yeah. Absolutely. It's good for us to have these conversations so people open their minds and Relearn and unlearn to what we've been taught.
Speaker 37: So I want this to be a safe place to talk about and learn.
Speaker 10: As you
Speaker 14: can see, there's ongoing evolution of language and how people can identify.
Speaker 37: My next guest, author and conservative host of Daily Wire's The Matt Walsh Show, Talking about his recently published children's book that has since been removed online by a popular large retail chain. Now Matt says gender is not a social construct, but rooted firmly in biology. True?
Speaker 0: True, as human beings, we have a sex, male or female, but as a biological scientific fact. Now, gender is a linguistic term. Words have gender. People don't. You can have whatever self perception you want.
But you can't expect me to take part in that self perception or to take part in this kind of charade, this You don't get your own pronouns, just like you don't get your own prepositions or your own your own adjectives. You know, it's like if I were to tell you, My adjectives are handsome and brilliant and no matter whatever you're talking about me You have to describe me as handsome and brilliant because that's how I identify
Speaker 37: So you think it's a delusion?
Speaker 0: Well, this is one of the problems with this left wing gender ideology is that no one who espouses it can even tell you what these words mean. Like, what is a woman?
Speaker 7: Well, can you tell
Speaker 0: me what a woman is?
Speaker 8: No, I can't.
Speaker 0: Womanhood is something that
Speaker 14: is an umbrella term. It includes people who
Speaker 0: That describes what? People who identify as a woman What is that?
Speaker 10: Was to each their own.
Speaker 14: Each woman, each man, each person is is going to have a different relation with their own gender identity and define it differently.
Speaker 21: You want to reduce women,
Speaker 14: you want to reduce men down to maybe just their genetics, Our genitals are chromosomes. Right?
Speaker 0: That's what you're saying. What you wanna do is that's what I'm trying to do. What you want to do is appropriate women. You wanna appropriate womanhood
Speaker 10: Okay.
Speaker 0: And turn it into basically a costume that could be worn.
Speaker 37: Joining us on stage is doctor Susie Dimbo, associate professor At Kent State University. Doctor Dimbo, how do you feel those who oppose using pronouns are taking the wrong approach in this conversation.
Speaker 7: There's the extreme approach that you are admittedly taking, and then there's also just ordinary people that might not be comfortable With the language change.
Speaker 0: She began by saying that my view is extreme. Okay? So the view that every single person on earth has held up until 15 seconds ago is extreme. They are conflating gender and sex because on one hand, they say, well, you got your biological sex, but then your gender is whatever social construct. But then they turn around and say that trans women are women.
So a man who who who identifies with the with the the gender, the social construct of womanhood actually is a woman.
Speaker 7: Part of me wants to ask why you care so much, because it's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 7: Can I answer that?
Speaker 0: I care about the truth. So so basic truth matters. I wanna live in a society where people care about the truth. I care about children. And these these insane ideas about gender are being are being foist on kids.
And that that bothers me quite a bit. I care about the women who are having their opportunities stolen from them. I care quite a bit. Yeah.
Speaker 37: I wanted us to have a safe place to be able to talk about this, and it seems like we should just keep the dialogue going and and hopefully find some middle ground.
Speaker 0: What do you say to parents if a parent comes to you and says, my 8 year old son is telling me he's a girl?
Speaker 8: Yeah. Great. You're going to have them do an experimental procedure that creates the most suicidal ideation of any other population 7 to 10 years after, you know, transition. And here's what I tell parents.
Speaker 6: You
Speaker 8: don't have the right To medically transition your child.
Speaker 28: We have no research on long term hormone use. We will be seeing the 1st generation of long term Hormone use. And we already know at least with 10 years of hormones, you're giving yourself cancer.
Speaker 0: What's your message to parents who are trying to cope with this?
Speaker 26: The first thing is to tell parents that they're not alone. It is our responsibility as a parent to be the frontline defense for our children. And I know with my child, lot of people will say, was it worth it? Because you now, you know, seemingly have lost your child. And I'll say, yeah, but at least I I've saved my conscience and my morals and my convictions.
And when my child turns 25 and says, dad, where were you? I'll say, I was there. I was fighting as hard as I could. I was not prepared to let
Speaker 0: So this really matters is another question. So
Speaker 21: Matters for those who are getting double mastectomies When they're 16?
Speaker 0: And why should we care if we live in a society where gender
Speaker 21: because my government decided that I had to call people by the terms that they were that they designated, or I'd be subject to legal penalties. It's like, no. I'm not doing that. I don't care what your reason is. You don't get control of my tongue.
Speaker 29: We live in a climate now in which no one seems to care about the safety of women and girls who are going through a very developmentally challenging time in their lives, they may not want to share spaces with their male peers. I would not be surprised in a few years, there will no longer be women's Sports. It will literally be men's sports and transgender sports.
Speaker 17: The question being asked by the trans person is is a legitimate one. How can I be happy? The answer being given by having my body transformed to look like the other gender by having myself pumped full of hormones Clearly isn't working, and we have to find a better and a more humane way of dealing with individuals who are struggling with gender dysphoria.
Speaker 12: I have the utmost compassion for people who suffer from gender dysphoria. It's a nightmare For them and their families, the vast majority, up to 90% of kids, if they go through a normal puberty, They're gonna be okay. They will be at peace with their bodies, and they will have avoided dangerous and experimental medical interventions and surgeries.
Speaker 26: Maybe we're up against a battle here, up against a hill that, perhaps, you know, we're not gonna necessarily win today. But if we don't pave the way for a win, we'll never get there.
Speaker 0: So we're going on this journey. Boys can be girls. Girls can be boys. Men can be women. Women can be men.
It makes me wonder, what what is a woman?
Speaker 4: What is a woman? Woman is someone who claims that as their identity. It could be many things to many people.
Speaker 6: I think the question really brings up The fact that it is pretty relative, right? That if you ask women across race, across identities, across class, across culture, you will get a different answer.
Speaker 10: Some of it is, you know, based on biology. Some of it is based on hormones. Some of it is based on What you wear and and how you present yourself.
Speaker 0: A woman is not anything in particular. It's not there's no one particular thing. There
Speaker 10: is not one particular thing.
Speaker 19: A woman is someone who says that she is a woman and transitions to be a woman.
Speaker 0: Says that she's what? Can you define the word woman without using the word woman?
Speaker 18: It's actually
Speaker 0: We've been Journeying across the country asking people this question, and almost nobody can answer it. What is a woman? What is a woman?
Speaker 21: Marry 1 and find out. Mhmm.
Speaker 0: So I should go home and ask my wife, I guess.
Speaker 21: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Hey. I've been, here to ask you something.
Speaker 7: Uh-huh.
Speaker 0: What is a woman?
Speaker 28: An adult human female who needs help opening this.
Speaker 22: Can you provide a definition for the word woman.
Speaker 7: Can I provide a definition? Mhmm. Yeah. I can't. You can?
Not in this context. I'm not in biology.
Speaker 22: Of the word woman is so unclear and controversial that You can't give me a definition.
Speaker 7: Senator, in my work as a judge, what I do is I address disputes. If there's a dispute about a definition, people make arguments, and I look at the law and I decide. So I'm not
Speaker 22: The fact that you Can't give me a straight answer about something as fundamental as what a woman is, underscores the dangers of the kind of progressive education that we are hearing about. Just last week, an entire generation of Young girls watched as our taxpayer funded institutions permitted a biological man to compete and beat a Biological woman in the NCAA swimming championships. What message do you think this sends to girls who aspire to compete And when in sports at the highest levels.
Speaker 7: Senator, I'm Not sure what message that sends. If if you're asking me about the legal issues related to it, those are topics that are being hotly discussed as you say, and I could come to the court.
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