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Tucker Carlson: Ep. 67 Meet the man who made Adam Kinzinger cry. Catturd in the flesh https://t.co/h84OOakClN
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People might dismiss Joe Biden, but if you listen to him, you'll realize his policies are cruel to Americans.
One person who recognizes this and speaks out is CatTurd on X. He's angered the establishment, including Adam Kinzinger, with his memes and opinions. Despite being attacked and even threatened, CatTurd continues to share his views.
He's a 59-year-old army veteran and former hippie from Northwest Florida. At 54, he decided to get on social media and voice his political opinions after listening to Rush Limbaugh. He started his account kind of on a whim, never imagining he'd gain such a large following. Now, he has a podcast and sells merchandise because of his online presence.
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Speaker 0: If you don't pay close attention to Joe Biden, you're probably content to dismiss him as just a senile old fool who's exiting the stage at high speed. But if you actually listen to him, if you watch what Joe Biden says, it dawns on you, actually, this man is evil, actually evil. Listen to what he says. It's dishonest. It's vicious.
It's cruel to his fellow Americans. He's a bad person, and he's the president of The United States. And yet no one seems to say that out loud or even notice. Instead, our moral superiors, our overlords, are very exercised about, well, some people you've probably not even heard of. People on the Internet who are saying true things.
And one of the people who makes them maddest is a guy, really an account called CatTurd. Yes. That's the name, one word, on x, formerly Twitter. CatTurd has millions of followers and is remarkably remarkably controversial for a person whose name has never been spoken in public. He actually got into a fight with Adam Kinzinger, no less than Adam Kinzinger.
Speaking of evil, here's, in case you've forgotten it, here's what it looked like. Kinzinger made that clear the other day when he responded personally to a Twitter account called Cat Turd. Because when you're one of Washington's leading authorities on foreign policy, you spend a lot of time on Twitter reading accounts with names like Cat Turd. So the other day, Cat Turd made the mistake of posting a meme that seemed to mock the colors of the Ukrainian flag. Colors that are sacred to Adam Kinzinger and every other empathetic soccer monitor from mid forties.
You could imagine how offensive that was. It was like telling an off color joke about Meghan Markle. It could not stand. And so alone and battling debilitating hot flashes in his kitchen, fighting the urge to open yet another bag of chips ahoy, Adam Kinzinger fought back. Literal evil, he wrote in a late night response to cat turd.
If I met you in person, it would not end well for you sicko. Hear that cat turd? It will not end well for you. That's not a pillow fight Adam Kinzinger is talking about. That's a full on slap fight with hair pulling.
This is real. You better apologize. Our heart goes out to cat turd tonight who's probably cowering in a litter box somewhere waiting for Adam Kinzinger to show up with sharpened nails. So cat turd, enraged Adam Kinzinger. And it's also been noticed on late night comedy shows.
Watch.
Speaker 1: And things seem to hit a new low last night as he retweeted three times an account called cat turd. Now to be fair, the cat is wearing glasses, so it must be smart. The actual Twitter handle for the account is cat turd two. And I, for one, cannot wait to see what's in store from cat turd three. Cat turd sounds like someone Joe Biden would have brought up in a speech during the primaries.
When I was growing up in Scranton, there was a real mean son of a gun. We used to call him Cat Turn. He could do what and bebop like nobody's business. What was I talking about? Oh, yeah.
Climate change.
Speaker 0: Well, there's a reason nobody watches late night comedy shows anymore, but still cat turd seems to offend people. Why is that? Who is this man? Who's cat turd one? Well, we found him.
He's a man. He's from the South. That's all we know. He wants to keep his name private because he doesn't want his life any more disrupted than it already has been, but he is joining us anyway in physical form.
Speaker 2: Catcher, it's great to
Speaker 0: see you.
Speaker 2: How you doing? So You've made
Speaker 0: it, Tucker. So many quest so many questions. So, I actually don't know your real name just for the record.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 0: What what year did you graduate from Yale?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I graduated Yale, I think 1984.
Speaker 0: No. Seriously. I'm guessing you didn't go to Yale and I mean that I went to Harvard after you.
Speaker 2: You went to Harvard.
Speaker 0: I remember you so well there. Where where like, what what was your preparation for being cat turd? Like, tell us your life trajectory. Who are you without revealing your name?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm from Northwest Florida. I mean, Georgia.
Speaker 0: Same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I live in Northwest, Florida now. But so I, I I graduated high school kinda early at 17, joined the army. I I was telling you earlier, I spent my eighteenth birthday in a foxhole in Fort Dix, New Jersey in basic training back when it really was basic training. And then, I I got injured when I was over in Badkissingen, Germany, and we were on alert, and I hurt my back real bad and had surgery.
Oh. And that was pretty much the end of my army career. I was a medevac, back to Fort Gordon, Georgia, had back surgery. I I actually tried to stay in, but, they wouldn't let me.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been something I've had to deal with my whole life.
Speaker 0: So they wrecked your body and then
Speaker 2: kicked you out? Yeah. Pretty good. Okay. You know, it was an honorable medical discharge.
But yeah. And so, after that, I hitchhiked to Panama City, and I've pretty much been in in in the Panhandle ever since. You know? I'm 59 years old. I spent, you know, just like most people, I was, I'm I'm different than most of the influencers that, do all the right things, have the kids, wear the suit and ties.
I pretty much was screwed up until I was about 40, 40 five years old. I had a couple of failed marriages, followed by, I was I was just I was a professional musician for a year. I was a hippie. I had long hair and a beard and and smoked weed and had a a VW van and wore Really? Dyed shirts.
I did. I did. I was a real hippie. I, went from job to job
Speaker 0: Partied a lot.
Speaker 2: Here to there. Yeah. I partied a lot. I had I had my my my stint with drugs and alcohol, and, you know, I don't know why everybody's scared to admit it. You know, everybody paints
Speaker 0: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Big famous picture, you know, this big picture of how, you know, in in the world that we live in today is just like I just I've always been honest with my followers and on my podcast.
Speaker 0: I don't trust people who don't know how weak they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know. Yeah. And so I, kinda aimlessly went through my life, and, then I finally ended up, you know, work working a good fiber optics job for years. At 54 years old, which was five years ago, I'd never been on social media.
I didn't know anything about social media. I didn't even know how it worked. I had no friends on social media, and I just decided to I got arthritis in my fingers. I couldn't play guitar anymore, and I was just like, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm just gonna get on Twitter.
And I just be you know? Saw the cat. Just said cat turd. I never thought I'd have a hundred followers. You know?
Who who who would think that it's just like it's like Homer Simpson now. Cat terrors is way beyond me. You know? They're doing
Speaker 0: Wait. If I just ask you, pause. What was the moment when when you decided to make that your numb to gare?
Speaker 2: I just was, like, surfing through the web, and I saw that cat picture, and it just kept dirty. It was that simple. I mean, who you know, I didn't think anybody's ever gonna follow me. I remember asking people for weeks, how do I post a picture on here? And so I don't even know how it took off.
It just got legs somehow, and it just took off.
Speaker 0: So but why did you do it?
Speaker 2: Why did I do what?
Speaker 0: Why did you go online and start giving your opinions?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I've always been, as a professional musician, in in the nineties, you, you know, you have to be good at construction. Construction? Yeah. Because you gotta make money.
Yeah. You're not gonna make money.
Speaker 0: I'm a little slow. I mean
Speaker 2: So you better learn to build stuff. So, you know, me and my band guys, we were we were builders. You know? We build decks, roofs, build a build a house, whatever. And so in the nineties, you you're bored and, you know, we played music at night.
We don't wanna listen to music, so I started listening to Rush Limbaugh. Really? So every day, we'd listen to Rush Limbaugh while we're building houses, whatever.
Speaker 0: You and every construction crew in America?
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it it just it just like this is I didn't even know. I was a hippie. I thought I was a liberal. I didn't know what I was still.
And I was like, this guy's saying everything I believe. And, it was, it was, you know, I listened to him till the day he died. Really? Yeah. I was total rush, baby.
And it was just like, this guy's talking exactly what I think. And I never even knew what I was until, you know, I I I started listening to him, but that's how I got in. And I was just a political junkie from the first time I heard him. And it's just been like that ever since. So I got on, you know, Twitter, now x, and just started posting.
And, man, what a five years. That's unbelievable. It is.
Speaker 0: I mean but but why did you do that? I mean, a lot of people have political opinions, but they don't imagine that other people wanna read them, or they don't feel compelled to share them with the world on the social media app.
Speaker 2: I don't know why it caught fire.
Speaker 0: But why did you wanna do it? Because you were frustrated?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess so. I just you know? I think as artistic, although I I didn't play on stage a lot in the last, years, I'd always go to my room, and I wrote a lot of music. I actually wrote my best stuff then.
And it was just I I need that artistic outlet now. And, when I lost that, I I was really kinda depressed because I'd lost my fingers. It's like overnight. They started swelling up. I got arthritis from playing guitar and and and using power tools my whole life.
And, I was just like, I just need to do something. And so I just got on social media. It's just it's just the spur of the moment. It was my birthday. It was, like, February after my birthday.
So I'm gonna join Twitter. And I was asking people I was calling people, how do you join Twitter? How do you do a picture? How do you
Speaker 0: do a picture? Is there a membership committee? What's the rules? So when at what point did it I can't remember the first time I saw it, but, at what point did you realize it was working?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I remember after two or three months, I was I was working on a job in Miami, and I told one of my friends that was that was rooming with me at the time we were working there. I said, man, this thing's really taken off. And he thought I was crazy. He said, what?
And I said, this cat turd thing, and he's just he he thought I was nuts because, you know, everybody did. I was trying to tell everybody, this thing's really taken off. And everybody just like, whatever. You know? Here's the shovel.
Start get your rocks over there in that hole. And it just it just caught fire. I I don't know how. I don't know how it did, and it just keeps going.
Speaker 0: Wow. I mean, so you're you're in Miami rooming with another guy that you're working with
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: On some kind of job.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Fiber optics job. I did fiber optic construction for years after I got, finished, you know, with my music career.
Speaker 0: And, like, at the point that Adam Kinzinger starts replying to you and threatening your life
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: By the way, that would be quite a slap fight. Do you feel confident you can I
Speaker 2: I don't know? You know? It's he's scary. You know? I wanna see eye to eye with him, so I'm gonna go get a a Home Depot five gallon bucket and see if you can stand on it.
Speaker 0: But when Adam Kinzinger himself Oh,
Speaker 2: yeah.
Speaker 0: He's got a you know, he's got Ukraine to defend.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: He's super busy Oh,
Speaker 2: he cares about it.
Speaker 0: Transitioning or whatever he's doing, when he takes time to attack you and threaten to beat you up or scratch you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like And that wasn't my meme. I just said I think I said, I shouldn't be laughing at this, but it's funny. Yeah. And then, and then it made it worse.
You know, once he does that, that he he don't understand how the Internet works. Now they got his face on it.
Speaker 0: Yeah. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Now now all the time you see that meme, it's his face on it now.
Speaker 0: Well, how do you understand how the Internet works?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just somehow do.
Speaker 0: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: So what has it done to your life?
Speaker 2: Well, it it it's totally changed my life. You know, financially, I started sell selling merch, and then, I got a podcast. You know, we got a a Jules and I. I have a a cohost, Jules, Jones. Our podcast is called In the Litter Box.
And, you know, we gotta deal with Rumble, which we love. We love Rumble. And, and then, you know, fast forward to these ad shares, which are crazy, you know, with Elon Musk. I mean, it's big money. And I bought a new truck a couple of weeks ago.
I never had a new vehicle in my life. You know? And to be able to do something like that for me. I mean, I think a lot of people I know what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck for both most of my life. I know what it's like to look like a tea bag, you know, at the end of the workday and be so sore.
I know what it's like to choose from your rent and food. I know what it's like to ride around on four different tires. You know, one's got three plugs. One's got five plugs. One's got 13 plugs in it.
You know, we call them baloney skins, no tread. So I think I think a lot of people just, I'm kinda like the Rudy of Twitter. I probably don't deserve to be there, but I I I worked hard enough to maybe get that one play at the end at the end of the game.
Speaker 0: It's the most American story ever.
Speaker 2: It really
Speaker 0: is nuts. It really is nuts.
Speaker 2: There there's I don't think there's a lot of people like my situation because, like I said, most of the influencers are I mean, they just they've they've and and they did the right thing. Not me. I did the wrong thing. They did the right thing. They've got great wives and kids, and and, you know, they've made a lot of money.
They've got, you know, parents that are successful, and they went to college. For sure. And and I'm just a working class stiff that
Speaker 0: Well, that's the ruling class of the country. Yeah. And I'm from it, so I know. I know. Yeah.
So it's pretty amazing to see this happen to you.
Speaker 2: It is. And and and So how much
Speaker 0: of your day is spent on it?
Speaker 2: Pretty much seven days a week. I'm I'm an insomniac. I always have been. So I get up at four or five, and I basically do it seven days a week, you know, fifteen hours a day.
Speaker 0: What is so but you're you spent your life moving physically moving outside. Obviously, it's been hard on your body as you said.
Speaker 2: Oh, it has.
Speaker 0: But it's also there's something good about moving. And, I mean, what's it like the change at fifty five to go from, you know, being on the road installing fiber cable to sitting behind the screen all day?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's fantastic. Screw moving. No. But, well, I I Sorry. That's so awesome.
I've I've I've got, you know, I I I I've got 13 rescue pets, and I still, you know, I I still take care of my, I got a little I got a horse ranch, but there's no horses. It's got a barn and the whole deal. And, it's fenced in where my dogs can run free, and I chase them around all day.
Speaker 0: Thirteen rescues?
Speaker 2: Yeah. 13 now.
Speaker 0: What's that like?
Speaker 2: It's, well, I post all the pictures online, and it's all these beautiful pictures, but they don't see all the fights and the growling and, you know, they're he's swallowing a bone, and he swallowed a rope, and they're all chasing a squirrel, and they're fighting. And, you know, they don't see all that. But it's it it I don't know what happened, but they just started coming to me. I I've never been to a rescue shelter. They I've found all of my pets, starving and beaten and abandoned and, and just on the side of the road, all the dogs except I got two puppies.
One of the dogs I got, came in and she was young. I didn't think anything about it, and she got pregnant. And before I knew it, it was just like I had 10 puppies too on top of this. And it's funny because I gave them away, and they got Twitter accounts. I got huge Twitter accounts, so people follow the puppies.
They're called puppy turds.
Speaker 0: Why do you adopt so many animals?
Speaker 2: I just I mean, when you see a dog starving, what are you gonna do? And then I try to tell myself, I'm gonna rehome some of these. And then you spend so much time with them trying to just, like, get them fed.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They're they're so the ones I I find, they're so almost dead, starving to death. So and then I fall in love with them. I can't let them go, and it's that that simple.
Speaker 0: Wow. That's, I mean, that's pretty, that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: But I gotta stop.
Speaker 0: Well, now you can afford the dog food.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I can. And, I've you know, it's just kinda turning thing where people say, hey, cat turd. I got a rescue we found on the side of the road, so I'll post it or I'll repost it. And, it's just turned into something I do.
I've had kennels built, and, you you gotta keep them separated. Some of them, you know, they're from some of them I find they're 10 years old. Some I find they're puppies, and some of them just don't like each other.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Dogs are like that. Yeah. It's hard to get pack cohesion. So you're not telling us your real name or taking your glasses off, which I which I respect, but tell us why.
Tell us why that would be a concern in Well, I supposedly free country.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, number one, I'm I like being in the background. I I get invited to all the red carpet events and stuff, but I never go. It's just not my thing. But, I mean, for just saying my opinion, and that's all I do.
I just give my opinion. I just, like, look at each issue. And they call me a right wing fanatic on Wikipedia and, you know, all these hit pieces they do. But, you know, I hate the Republican and Democrat party equally. Me too.
I mean, we have a country now. 99% of Washington, DC is just corrupt, and, we're the resist. You're not the resist. You know, the people, they Yeah. Online.
We are the resist, and and we're just trying to fix the country. So for doing my common, you know, sense opinions, I get death threats. I've been swatted three times. They try to have me murdered.
Speaker 0: Tell us well, tell us what that's like.
Speaker 2: Well, it always usually happens during my podcast. But so, the last time they they call and pretend to be me, and they said that, that I caught my wife in bed with somebody. I'm not married. So and I shot them both. And then when the police get there, I'm gonna kill them.
So they'll try to come up and get you they try to get you murdered. That's what it is. It's attempted murder if you ask me.
Speaker 0: During your podcast?
Speaker 2: During the pod it's always during the podcast. It's happened to me three times. It's happened to a lot of us. You know? It's happened to Margie Taylor Greene, Tim Poole.
But one once you know, everybody's once you get to a certain level, they're they're gonna come after you. I have they've lately, they've been cutting heads off rabbits and throwing them off the body over my gate. Serious. That's happened three times now too.
Speaker 0: So we live in a country where the citizenry is surveilled much more thoroughly than North Korea surveils its own citizens. Like, everything you do is monitored, right, through your phone, facial recognition, satellites. Everything is monitored. But they can't find the people who are doing this?
Speaker 2: Yeah. And and are they even interested in finding if it happens to us? You know? But, I mean, who do we call? Who do you call?
Speaker 0: Who do you call?
Speaker 2: Because there is nobody. Now the local police where I live are awesome, and I support the blue. I always have. I just don't support the feds at all. I mean, look what they turned into, Tucker.
It's it's it's it's awful.
Speaker 0: So you call the local cops when this happens, and what do they say?
Speaker 2: Well, the first time I did it, they were like, you're cat turd. And so yeah. So I I I left them after the first time. I gave them a bunch of gear. You know, here.
Get some cat turd stuff. But they they actually come, and and they patrol my property a lot. Mainly because it's a one horse town. It's nothing else to do. Yeah.
But, they they're great, and they and they watch it like a hawk. You know, they're very protective of it. But it's like, if somebody on the left annoys me, which they do a lot, I'll mute them.
Speaker 0: Right.
Speaker 2: If if if if I annoy people, which I understand I do, they try to have me killed. I mean, that that's a big gap, isn't it?
Speaker 0: Right. It's a big gap.
Speaker 2: Muting? Yeah. Attempted murder.
Speaker 0: So you spend your life watching what's happening.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: What conclusions have you drawn?
Speaker 2: Where do
Speaker 0: you think we're going this year?
Speaker 2: Well, we're in trouble. I mean, it's just I I always try to be positive, but sometimes I can't see a way out of it anymore. Can you? I mean, I just don't see a way out of it. And I'm a Trump supporter.
I'm a Trump guy. Yeah. If you you know, I go back to the it cracks me. The the funniest thing to me on x is all the people that do whatever the government says that put resist in their bio. Yeah.
That's the funniest thing. You know? Black lives matter.
Speaker 0: Obedient little bitches. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Whatever. And and, they they can tell them anything, and they'll do it. What if you can convince your voters that men can have babies Yeah. Think about that.
You've got them. You can tell them You got them. You can tell them tell them to wear a dirty diaper on their head, and they're gonna do it. They will.
Speaker 0: They'll and and Well, they did, actually.
Speaker 2: If you don't have a dirty diaper on your head. But once once they can convince you of that I mean, you gotta know these people are laughing when they're at the bar, the Democrats, and then we've convinced them that men can have babies. And they believe it, and they're calling everybody names that doesn't believe it.
Speaker 0: So do you see that changing at all?
Speaker 2: I believe the woke is the woke part of it is coming to a head. I really do. I think it's people are as tired of I am, and we don't care what names you call us. And and I'm a person who believes I don't you know, I was a hippie. I was a real hippie, not only fake hippies.
I don't know. I was a actual hippie. I mean, I lived up, I was homeless at one time. I lived up in a tent, but in a lake for months.
Speaker 0: How was it?
Speaker 2: It was good. I could call a lot of crappy, and I ate them every night.
Speaker 0: You get crappy every night?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, you gotta gotta eat somehow.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's a it's a rough spot to be in, but, where what were we talking about?
Speaker 0: You're saying that people are getting sick of the anti white stuff, the trans stuff, all that.
Speaker 2: But do kids have a chance? I mean, think think about this. I'm 59, and I I think you're in your fifties. And we went to school. There was, you know, we actually learned mathematics, social studies, history, but they think about a kid these days.
He goes to school. So they start when they're three or four in kindergarten, and they don't have a chance. They they look what they do to them now. They're like critical race theory. You get over there, all you're a racist, and you're okay.
You're a racist. And then they put a mask on you, and and they they they teach you that the air you breathe is poison. And then they tell you you're all gonna die and burn in the hellfire from global warming in twelve years. Think about these little kids, how scared they are. They scare the hell out of them.
Speaker 0: Yeah. They do.
Speaker 2: And then it's, trans this. And and and and and they're showing BJs to seven years old in books. Yeah. And and and and then they go through the whole school and it's like that. And then they step into college and watch college.
It's turbo now. You know? And they're brainwashed through. And I honestly think the longer you stay in college, the dumber you get now. I I honestly believe
Speaker 0: that about it.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 0: It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: And and so you have these teachers. So they go they go through that, and then they go and they stay in college as long as they can till they're 30 years old. And then they go right from there to a teaching job. So they stay on campus until they're 50. So they don't have any life experience.
They've never they don't know what it's like to to work for a living or or run a business, and they're the ones teaching. You know? And it's just it's it's horrible. So they they don't have a chance.
Speaker 0: So all of this or some of it is come gonna come to a head this calendar year because of the presidential election.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: Where do you see that going? Well,
Speaker 2: man, Trump's gonna win the primary. I hope everybody knows that. We can call him all around and, fight each other and the DeSantis people. We're all I'm in there. We're all fighting each other, but Trump's gonna win the primary, and he should win it.
But, man, what they're doing to him and they're not they're they're not doing it to Trump to do it to Trump. They hate him. But I always say on the podcast that Washington's okay as long as they have George Bush versus Obama every year. That's what they want. They want George Bush versus Obama.
Every four years, they split up the $4,000,000,000,000 with their friends. Some of them get it sometimes. Some of them get it. That that's what they want. They want Bush versus Obama.
They're okay with that. Yeah. They love Nikki Haley.
Speaker 0: Of course
Speaker 2: they do. You know? Can I ask you
Speaker 0: to pause? Yeah. And since you're online all day, do you think there's organic support for Nikki Haley?
Speaker 2: There's none.
Speaker 0: Okay. Because she's I'm not even sure she's an actual human being.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She's the most dangerous Republican primary candidate we've had, probably one of them in my lifetime.
Speaker 0: Why do you say that?
Speaker 2: She's just, I mean, some of the things she said like that, she's a niacom, number one.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, my god. How how many times are you gonna be fooled, America? I mean, from the Vietnam War, Vietnam. North Vietnam beat South Vietnam. It's it's over for our country.
Yeah. So let's send 60,000 people to the Korea was the same way. All the Middle Eastern wars. And, she she's right in there. Ukraine Ukraine.
Speaker 0: But unlike you, she served our country in unit oh, wait.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. But but she's dangerous. And and remember when she said a a week ago, if you're anonymous on Twitter, whatever, I want your name.
That's what she said.
Speaker 0: You gotta register with the government to give your opinion.
Speaker 2: Want your name. Not the government wants it. I do. Yeah. She's dangerous.
I just I get a feel for people. I've always had a knack knack to kinda fill people out, and and I just it's just she's like Mike Pence. Yeah. She's nothing they say is authentic. Everything sounds like it's programmed, cliches.
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of bosses in my life and some nasty ones. You know? That's the way bosses are. Yeah. And every person I've ever talked to in my life and every boss I ever had, they talk exactly like Trump.
All of them. Yeah. I don't have anybody in my life that sits up there like Mike Pence and, you know, a burden of hands worth through in the bush. You know, just every cliche you can imagine.
Speaker 0: Get a creepy vibe off Pence?
Speaker 2: Total. I say on the podcast sometimes, I I don't know what skeletons is. I'd hate to see what goes on there when the lights come out of yourself.
Speaker 0: So, I'm not just
Speaker 2: nobody's that perfect. You know? Quit acting perfect. I remember that time he was like, I can't even have lunch with another woman because I'm married even if we're friends. Remember he said that?
Speaker 0: Yeah. That's when I was like, yeah. I had I had a lot of thoughts about that, which
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna share.
Speaker 0: I mean, by the way, I think you should if you're married, you should really actively try not to commit adultery. I think that's something I totally agree with that a %. But him specifically saying that, I reached exactly the opposite conclusion.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say that. Yeah. I don't I don't I don't trust them when when they're when when they're that perfect and they it's all it's just like it's planned. Everything they say is planned, and I just that that's why I like Trump. You know?
Does Trump make some bad every I don't believe everything you say. You don't believe everything I say. I don't believe every Trump doesn't believe everything I say. But, I mean, what they're doing now, he's already an iconic figure. They're gonna turn him into a martyr, and they're making him more powerful and more powerful and more powerful.
And, I could see him if the election was fair. I could see him just totally steamrolling. If it was fair, I know it would be. You think it will be? Well, who do we have, to fight?
Who do we have to fight? Ronald McDaniels? Give me a break. I mean, we got Scott Pressler out there beating the streets. He's beating the street like a, you know, like a bicycle clown out there.
He is going around everywhere. He's registering voters on the ground in the in the Republican party won't give him the time of day. He knows every rule to every county in this country. And that's if you could have a thousand of him out there and they train another thousand, you could sweep this thing.
Speaker 0: Why do you think they're not doing that?
Speaker 2: Well I
Speaker 0: mean, why would you have someone as mediocre and incapable as Rhonda McDaniel who has no track record of success in in any area? Why would she run the Republican Party? That's pretty weird.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I remember when, you know, 90% of the people were complaining about her, you know, getting the job again. I remember one of the donors. So the y'all y'all this has nothing to do with y'all. The donors picked this.
I remember reading a story like that. And
Speaker 0: That sounds true.
Speaker 2: It's true. They don't care. They don't care about us. They're I mean, I always say, especially when it comes to Trump, the the the democrats will cheat and the republicans will let him because they hate Trump. Yeah.
They hate him. And, I mean, it's a simple choice to me. I mean, if you're he's the only resist president in my lifetime.
Speaker 0: Why do you think they hate him so much?
Speaker 2: Because he's not a part of their club. This is not about Trump to me. It's just like, this is an outsider, and we're going to destroy his life, and we're gonna show everybody out there that if you pick an outsider, somebody that we hadn't picked going back to a Bush versus, you know, Obama situation. If if it's not the people we pick that are we're okay with, we're gonna destroy their lives. We're gonna they can't even get a lawyer.
They'll arrest your lawyer for defending you.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna make up stuff. We're gonna sell your property that's worth a billion dollars is worth $13.74. We're gonna do whatever we can. And and this is to show not just Trump, but to anybody in the next fifty years. We will seek the FBI, the CIA.
We will destroy you if you're not our chosen people, and that's what I think is going on.
Speaker 0: If Trump is prevented from appearing on the ballot in November, if he's arrested, you know, something even worse happens, which is entirely possible. Next step. Of course, it's the next step. I don't even wanna say it out loud. Everyone knows.
Speaker 2: I hate saying it. No.
Speaker 0: Of course. I'm not going to, but everyone knows what I'm talking about. But if he is prevented, if democracy is prevented from proceeding, what do you think the response from his voters is gonna be since you follow this carefully?
Speaker 2: Well, why do you think they do the January 6 things? They want you scared that if you do anything, you could be, you know, 80 foot away, you know, outside the tape of the Capitol. You could be a half a mile away, and they're gonna come after you.
Speaker 0: Because there haven't been any I mean, this used to be a country where people felt free to assemble as is guaranteed them in the constitution to make their views known. The demonstrations and rallies, you haven't seen January 6 was the last one on the right that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2: They that's what they're trying to do, scare you.
Speaker 0: So but do you think that there will be demonstrations if something
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's it's yeah. But like I say, they're just making him more powerful.
Speaker 0: Making Trump more powerful.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to tell you you lived this, but because of you, in a hundred years, they're not gonna be talking about me or even you. They're gonna be talking about Trump in a hundred years.
Speaker 0: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be one of the biggest figures in in in the history of our country. Not because of what he did, but because of how they're treating him. And they're making him more powerful. And if he gets arrested and gets put in a jail, can you imagine? And and it could happen.
People say it couldn't happen. Oh, it could happen.
Speaker 0: It could happen very easily. Yeah. Who should he pick as his running mate?
Speaker 2: Oh, man. I go back and forth from this. I would like to say this that I don't think the VP pick really matters that much. I mean, we got Harris as a VP that approves. Right.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you, it takes a long time for me to trust you, but I'm starting to like Vivek. And I'm not sure if he's fake, and I'm not sure if it's just a show. But, man, he's pissing him off Oh. Bad as me and you.
Speaker 0: Yeah. They hate him.
Speaker 2: They do. And he's saying I mean, boy, he the reput them them debates. My god. He got Ronan McDaniel. He got all of them mad.
But he and ain't it funny? He's running the campaign exactly what DeSantis should have been running. He's running the campaign that DeSantis, but this DeSantis is running a Nikki Haley campaign.
Speaker 0: Does it seem that way?
Speaker 2: It does to me. Why? I think you said something about his online team is just so cringe. And I and I I shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 0: I shouldn't have gotten involved in that. I've been trying to stay out of it. I just, and I know some are. And they but yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't understand it. I mean, people like you know, people build trust with you. It's consistency over time. Yeah. And when you're a Trump supporter, well, some of them hated Trump.
Then you love Trump and you loved him. And now you love DeSantis. And then if he's gone, you're gonna love Nikki Haley. People don't trust that. And I don't have anything against any of them.
I mute a lot of them. I don't carry grudges with these people, and I welcome anybody in when it's over.
Speaker 0: Of course.
Speaker 2: You know? I don't have any grudges.
Speaker 0: Think that but it it does see I mean, I don't follow it very closely. I'll admit. I don't wanna follow closely, but it does seem like there's enormous bitterness between the DeSantis people and the Trump people.
Speaker 2: Oh, there is. It's crazy. And I I try not to get into the personal attacks. I'm kinda like Trump even on a x. I I'll if if you wanna you know, I'm a shit poster.
If you want if you wanna come at the shit poster with 2,000,000 followers, come on. In an army of, you know, foaming at the mouth just waiting for me to say something, you know, to get on somebody. But I very seldom I don't just attack first, but if, you know, if you keep attacking me Yeah. And but it doesn't bother me. I don't I don't take any of this stuff personally.
I mean
Speaker 0: I don't either.
Speaker 2: You know? They've called me every name in the book. You know? What what I'll be called, you know, that they'll you know, you're old. You're fat.
You're ugly. I mean, that's how they fight, but, you know, which all three are kinda true. I'll I'll have to beat them the next round. But, it people get so mad at this, and you have to, like, if you have to step back from it. And I I think it's funny.
I've lived in the real world where, you know, I've been in bar fights. You know? I've been I I'm real, you know, stuff. So, you know, somebody calling me ugly and old and a boomer, I don't care. Yeah.
Do you? I don't care.
Speaker 0: I don't even know what people say. I'm not I I care what the people I love think.
Speaker 2: That's me too.
Speaker 0: And that's it. And, like, you have a lot of dogs, which really helps.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Do you think the breach between those two camps, Trump DeSantis, can be fixed?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I I I think, you know, some of it, some people can't, but most people can. But this is my first primary. I get I mean, it's been I don't know if it's ever been this vicious, but so I supported DeSantis. I'm a Florida guy, and I was glad he was our gooder.
And I
Speaker 0: Oh, me too.
Speaker 2: I don't get paid by any campaign, and I pushed hard. And I was so glad when he won by 20 points, and I was so happy. And I think he's a good governor. Yeah. And, so and I try to tell people you got I don't want him so beaten down and hammered that we end up getting a blue governor next, you know, a a Gavin Newsom to destroy our state.
I mean, you you're here now. But someone from his team, not crazy high, but they asked me my honest opinion about it when he when he said he's gonna run. And I was like, don't do it. Whatever you do, don't run. Think about and this is what I told him.
I said, okay. He's 44. Young. Young. Yeah.
And he just won reelection by the biggest landslide. I was like
Speaker 0: Governor your state.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it perfect. How perfect is the timing? When you're when the end of your eight years is up, it's right would be right getting in the meat of the 2028.
Speaker 0: That's right.
Speaker 2: So I I this is what I tell him, support Trump because he helps you. And you don't want you don't want the Trump supporters. You you they can destroy you. I mean, you don't want them you know, you don't wanna turn on them. I swear.
I said, look. Just please. This is my advice. Just have him govern governor support Trump all he can. And in '28, you got Biden with only four years left or Trump with only four years left.
And now you're more popular, and now you have all the Trump people. You have all the DeSantis people, and you can moonwalk into the White House in 2028. Moonwalk. That's my exact words I used.
Speaker 0: What was the response you got?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Thanks. A lot of people don't take me too seriously, but it it it and I hate it. I hate it's going like this.
But
Speaker 0: A lot of people do take you seriously, which is interesting. It is. And and I can see why. I think you're insightful. Yeah.
Thank you. How many politicians have you met personally?
Speaker 2: Well, when they when they're when, personally, you know, I I kinda keep to myself. But, DM wise and messaged me, they all love me when it comes to election time. Hey. Will you retweet this and retweet this? And, I can't name five people in either party I trust.
I just don't trust anybody anymore. And they don't they don't deserve our trust. The Republican party, I mean, come on. They don't know how to fight.
Speaker 0: No. I know.
Speaker 2: That they're over there talking about their principles, and they're arresting their political opponents. So you better get in the game. And we get the power of the gavel, and what do they do with it? Seriously. Nothing.
Nothing. I mean, this is how you fight. When you get the gavel, you do your own January 6 committee.
Speaker 0: But do you think it's because they don't understand how to fight or they're throwing the match?
Speaker 2: I don't know if they just don't care Yeah. Or they don't know how or they're just cowards. But the truth is, see, this is how you fight. You get a January 6 committee, and you don't allow any Democrats on it. And you put everybody on it they hate just like they did us.
You put Marjorie Taylor Greene, Bobert, and Kate's. Yeah. That's the January. You don't allow them to have any witnesses, and you start subpoenaing. Let's see what Nancy Pelosi was talking to to the Capitol Police.
You start subpoenaing everybody, and you have it on C SPAN every day for years. And if they if you don't start fighting like that, it's over for this country.
Speaker 0: Well, but and and also, you have an obligation to do that because it's in pursuit of the truth.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 0: What do you make of the fact that the new speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, has not released the videotape, which he controls?
Speaker 2: Well, I I told everybody, you know, that he was he was gonna be awful. I warned everybody. They had that little kumbaya moment. He did what what did he do? Is that exactly what Kevin McCarthy did?
He said he's gonna release it. So they get the big headlines, gets everybody excited. They release 1% of 1%, and then they just don't do it anymore. And look what when when when you release that, the Q Shaman, he got out of prison because of that one little five minutes. Think of what if they were to just release it.
Just release it, but they can't do it. It's just push the button. Just push the button and release it. I know when he was talking about Ukraine funding, he's like, well, we have to, at some point, do the Ukraine funding because we don't want Russia steamrolling over Europe. That was his exact words, or I'm paraphrasing close.
Speaker 0: You think I mean, you obviously, you'd have to be really stupid to believe that. I'm assuming he's not stupid. I mean, why would he say something like that?
Speaker 2: It's the it's the same thing they always do to get us ginned up about a war.
Speaker 0: Also, by the way, if Russia invaded Western Europe, could it be in worse shape than it is now?
Speaker 2: I mean,
Speaker 0: it was the US government that blew up the German economy. It wasn't the Russians. It was the Biden administration that blew up Nord Stream
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: And ended their main source of cheap energy. So, like, could the Russians be worse than that? Maybe, I guess. But, like, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, they've used, Ukraine as kind of their fifty first state, and they would know rules. Yeah. The BioLabs, which they lied about and told the truth. Everybody in Washington, their kids over there making $4,000,000 a year, you know, at some kind of company. But so I don't I don't let them gin me up, and and and they try to gin you up more and get you mad.
And I can't get emotional when we have a hundred thousand people dying fentanyl poison in our own country. Agree. I'm not gonna get emotional. I hate war. I'm anti war.
I'm the one that wants a peace deal. You're the one that wants to keep and here's the problem with Ukraine. I think we're gonna end up the same spot a year or so from now. I think there's gonna be a peace agreement at some point, and there's gonna be a million dead people. And Russia's gonna take a little bit of the country, and we're gonna be in the same place we would have been.
Speaker 0: And no one will ever apologize for all those dead.
Speaker 2: And and they're just gonna call us pooping puppets because we want peace, and that's it.
Speaker 0: Couldn't agree more. So let first of all, thank you for doing this.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Problem.
Speaker 0: Last question. Do you ex so you've you went from installing FiberLine to becoming legitimately famous only because of your voice. You were allowed to talk in public. It was purely democratic. Like, people liked what you said.
They supported you. All of that is contingent on having a voice. Do you think a year from now, you will have the same boy you'll be allowed to say the things that you are saying now?
Speaker 2: Well, I hope so. But, you see what they're doing to come after me. I I, you know, I hate to say this, but I tell my family all the time. Hey. They FBI could frame me.
Who know? I mean, I don't trust them. No. You I hate saying that. I want an FBI that that I don't feel that way about.
But, hey, that, you know, they can do anything. They if they wanna get me, they're gonna get me. But I'm not gonna shut up. So that's it. I'm not shutting up.
Speaker 0: So do you feel that you will be able to reach the same audience a year from now?
Speaker 2: I I think so. I mean, it's it's it's gone up. I'm, you know, I'm doing my own events now. We're doing, we did turd stock. I do wanna mention that, which was it was kind of a John Rich and I was kind of a joke, and I said, no.
I'm serious. Instead of, you know, Woodstock, let's do turd stock.
Speaker 0: And Where'd you do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a redneck Riviera, up at his place in November. That's when my big coming out where everybody got to see me. And, I had some great musicians. We're actually, one of the, musicians, Angie Apero, who is a, has got a you'd love this story, Tucker.
It's it's the great American comeback story. He he was he wrote, a cry for, Faith Hill, and she won a Grammy. And, he he was this, like, unbelievable musician with his voice. And, he was on his way up, signed with a, you know, a record label, and then he had a stroke and completely lost his voice and couldn't talk. And so he spent, I think, 02/2016, '2 thousand '17, learn how to talk again.
And so now he's on his way back up, and, we he was he was there. And, we're, we're doing an event for him on the twenty fourth. So I'm gonna just keep kinda staying in my lane and just do what I do. You know? I probably won't be going to the red carpet events to meet everybody and get pictures.
But, I'm
Speaker 0: So we're gonna miss you at Davos next week?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not gonna be there. You're not
Speaker 0: gonna be there?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't I don't know. I I just don't I don't seem like I fit in there to me. I'm I'm more of the hanging out with the people kind of person. But but it was nice to meet you, and, and I really appreciate you inviting me.
Speaker 0: We're grateful to have you. Cat turd.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 0: Free speech is bigger than any one person or any one organization. Societies are defined by what they will not commit. What we're watching is the total inversion of virtue.
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🔴🇺🇸 Tucker Carlson: Ep. 66 A spirit of sadness has descended on the country. You see it everywhere. That's not surprising, says Tony Robbins, and it's not forever. https://t.co/B0bggivkBg
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A spirit of sadness and discouragement is palpable across the country, stemming from anxiety about the future. People lack a compelling vision, which leads to feelings of defeat. Tony Robbins highlights that while we are currently in a "winter" season, characterized by challenges and fear, it is essential to remain emotionally fit and focus on what we can control. He emphasizes the cyclical nature of life, where good times follow bad, and encourages individuals to build a path from their current situation to where they want to be. By investing in personal growth, finding role models, and taking action, people can overcome adversity and create meaningful lives. Robbins invites everyone to join his upcoming free seminar to explore these ideas further and connect with a supportive community.
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Speaker 0: There's a spirit of sadness and discouragement that has descended on the country. You can feel it. You could see it in the New Year celebrations that weren't very celebratory. And you certainly notice it when you talk to people, people you know well, people who are paying some attention even those who aren't. They seem down.
They're anxious, of course, about this year, which is gonna transform the world. There's no question about that. But they also seem a little defeated and sad. What is that exactly? You don't need to be a a guru to sense it.
It's real. And how should you respond to it? And so that's the question we're thinking about a lot this week, and one of the people we wanna pose it to is a very smart man, one of the most famous people in the world, Tony Robbins, a life strategist of, obviously, obviously, one of the best selling authors in the country, and he joins us now in studio. Tony, thanks a lot for coming on.
Speaker 1: Good to see you again. Do do you
Speaker 0: know what I I mean when I say the spirit of sadness? Do you see it around you, and what is that?
Speaker 1: It's sadness and it's anger too. Yeah. You can't travel without seeing it with people on airlines. It's pretty extreme. People have lost their patience after COVID.
But the anger usually comes from fear.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of fear about the future because there's not a compelling future. If you ask people what's the vision for the future for this country, I mean, if it days of John f Kennedy, he would talk about, you know, where we're gonna go. We're gonna go to the moon. He would transform the world. You know, we're gonna bring freedom everywhere.
I mean, Reagan had his view of the, you know, the the city on the hill and here's what we're gonna become. But if you ask today, I don't think most people have a clear vision. And without a vision, people perish. It's it's a really good book. I call it the good book.
But what's missing is a compelling future. What I mean by compelling future is anybody can deal with a difficult today if they know they have a really amazing tomorrow they're moving towards. But when people start thinking that young people today, I'm not gonna have a kid because in 12 years, the whole world's gonna end. Right. You know, because the environment is obviously not true.
Or there is no future because every party says the other party is gonna destroy the world, destroy the country. People without a vision just have no direction. And so it's up to us to become more emotionally fit. And by the way, this is not new.
Speaker 0: That's wise.
Speaker 1: Every everybody thank you. But everybody who's studies history knows things happen in cycles. And as the most simplified version, I think a couple of years ago, you and I talked about this real briefly. But think of it this way. Man transformed humanity transformed from survival, hunting and gathering to actually having a community by figuring one pattern recognition, which was seasons.
When you recognize the seasons, you're not panicked. You're not freaked out. Why is it getting so cold? And if you understand the seasons, you know, I don't have to hunt and gather. I can plant in the spring, but if I plant in the winter and work very hard, I get nothing.
I have to do the right thing at the right time. So we have to become aware of what season we're in. So springtime in a person's life, springtime in an economy is easy. When you I've got a little 2a half year old. I've got 5 kids and 5 grandkids.
So I've got a 48 year old daughter, and I've got a 2a half year old daughter. So I've got the whole range. Speaking of seasons. Speaking of seasons. But if you look at my daughter, I mean, she's learning Chinese, Spanish, English.
She's playing the piano. She's doing all these fun things at 2 and a half, but learning is the easiest thing in the world. And when you're in a springtime economy, you think you're a genius with your business, it grows because everything's growing. Correct?
Speaker 0: Right. That's right.
Speaker 1: But life is always good times, challenging times that make us grow. So then we have a summer. Summer is always more challenging. It's hot and difficult, and you gotta push through. What was growing really easy is not so easy to do anymore.
People start to panic. But if you stay strong and you keep pushing forward and keep growing, you get to go to the fall, another easy season, a beautiful season. Now people all wanna loan you money and give you a house even though you don't have an income. You remember those days. Right.
Very well. There's easy money. Stock markets go crazy. These seasons last about 18 to 20 years. They go every 80 year life cycles.
You can see them in a 1000 years of history and let's say Roman history of about a 100 year cycles, 25 years now, they're 18, 20 year cycles. But what follows the winter? What follows, I should say, the reaping time is the winter. Some winters are long, some are short, some are hard, some are easy, but you never go from reaping straight to spring. And we're in winter right now.
It's we're about depending on who you study historically, we're halfway, 2 thirds way through it, where there's challenges economically, where there's tremendous fear. Each season has a different emotion until we exhaust it. Even optimism, you ever smiled so much your face hurt?
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: So that's what's like in springtime. Summertime, there's inner conflict within a country. Fall, everybody's reaping again, not everybody, but certain people. Winter, it looks like it's never gonna happen. It looks like here's the truth.
No war lasts forever. No pandemic lasts forever. No economy lasts forever. And what if you were God, if you were the universe, how would you set up after the really rough night? You'd have a great day.
And that's pretty much the season. So we're in winter and we have to retool ourselves for this time because right now people will have more fear. It's exaggerated. And the media helps. The media is not bad people as you well know.
It's good people doing their job. Their job is take care of their shareholders. How do you do that? You get attention. How do you get attention?
Fear and anger get it more than anything else. That's why we have clickbait. Minute you click on it, even though it's not true, you get group gets paid. So we live in a world where fear sells and we're being hit on it everywhere. You don't have to go get it.
It comes to your pocket. So we have to rewire ourselves. It's like if I said to you, take your car and go on a 24 hour Le Mans ride. You could have a really nice Mercedes, Ferrari, whatever you think it is. It's not gonna last.
You gotta retool it. Or there's desert races, 1,000 miles. If you don't have the right sprockets in there, if you don't have something that when you drop down to the sand, can still bring the end of air into the car, you're not there. So my view is you gotta retool yourself. You gotta train yourself this time, and you also have to know it's not forever.
The other side of this is gonna be a new springtime, but we're gonna have to go through some challenges first, and they could be severe. And most of these extended winters, we've had some kind of war. This case might be a cyber war with China or something of that nature, but there is another side and it requires faith and determination to move forward. And it requires you focus on what you can control versus what you can't. That's right.
A friend of mine was saying the other day, oh my god. You know, it's probably this man's really smart guy. Very successful man. I've known him for 35 years. I've coached him, and I get coached by him.
I we've kinda pitch and catch with each other. And he's saying, I'm so worried. He's also Jewish, and he's like, see what's happening in the world. And what if there's somebody drops a nuclear bomb? And I said, you taught me years ago.
He taught me. Don't ever look at the worst case scenario because if that happens, we're all screwed and it doesn't matter. We'll have to figure it out. Right. And I said, if somebody drops a nuclear bomb, you won't even know.
You'll be vaporized. So Good point. Going around in fear about it's not it. Let's focus on what we can control. Let's focus on what is here, and then you start to build.
And so I I really think that people need to build a path from where they are to where they wanna be, and that's really my focus in helping people to do that.
Speaker 0: What a wonderful explanation. So you don't think I mean, you think winter's inevitable if I'm wrong?
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
Speaker 0: Because it always is.
Speaker 1: And it always follows good times.
Speaker 0: But it's not the end.
Speaker 1: No. And when things are going bad, they think it's gonna be bad forever. When it's going good, people think it's gonna be good forever. Life is cyclical.
Speaker 0: What's the upside of winter?
Speaker 1: Well, if you don't whine about and complain about it, you get strong. When I started my business, it was 18% interest rates. When I hear people today saying, I can't buy a house at 7 percentage rates. I think today, it was 18 percentage rates. People will be sacking the White House.
You know, I think about such a different expectation, but it made me incredibly strong. I was in the middle of stagflation. All those things that we're starting to consider may happen again. I went through all those things, but it made me strong and I've had dozens and dozens of people come and go in my industry, and here I am 46. It'll be my 47th year coming up here.
I started when I was 3. You know? But in 47 years, I'd be an idiot not to see patterns, patterns that control we think, how we feel, what we do, the results we get. There's macro patterns in the world, and there's micro patterns inside of you. You don't get angry every moment.
You get angry certain times. You don't overeat every moment, only we get triggered certain ways. So showing people how to create a path from where they are, where they wanna be regardless of the outside world, to me, is the most important thing.
Speaker 0: And there's joy in winters, maybe different kinds.
Speaker 1: Well, you can snowboard. You can you can I mean, some people freeze the day after people snowboard? Some people, you know, have more time with their family. Some people get together and say, hey. It's time to really redevelop my career, maybe retool myself right now for what's coming so I can take advantage because AI and robotics and nanotechnology are all coming faster than people think.
It's gonna massively disrupt some jobs. There'll be new jobs, but you're gonna have to retool for them or otherwise, you'll be left behind.
Speaker 0: I gotta say you're just reminding me that, you mentioned COVID at the outset, which was, I think, by any measure, no matter what side you're on was a disaster. Yeah. But it was also for some people, some small percentage of us, a really, really happy time. I'll speak for myself. It was one of the happiest times of my whole life.
Oh, that's good. I got to be with my family.
Speaker 1: Well, I had I had a similar experience. You know, I've lived 275 days on the road since I was 17 years old traveling, you know, 30 countries a year. And, suddenly, I'm getting calls from Gavin Newsom's office saying, guess what? Your convention here, the stadium with 15,000 people, 100 people in the stadium. Like, how's that gonna work?
Right?
Speaker 0: Does that work for the air force?
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. So I said, we'll go to Vegas. We'll move to Vegas. They'll never shut down Vegas. 1 week out for 12,500 people, they shut down Vegas.
Then I said, we'll go to Texas, the governor there. He's tough. He won't shut down, he said. Tough. Yeah.
He shut down.
Speaker 0: Of course, he did.
Speaker 1: Theaters. We opened all these theaters. We'll put 10 people in each theater. We'll do 1300 theaters. We'll have 13,000 people to work out.
At least have a group and, you know, small group of people on big screens and music, and they shut down the theaters. So it's like so I had to figure out how to serve people. So the first thing I did was I built a studio, 25,000 square feet, and I built these screens 20 feet high and an LED 0.67 so I can see you better than if you are not here in person because you're bigger too. And I can see all these people at once swipe and see another group. And so I grew my seminars from the 15,000 people to 40,000 people because now I have people from 195 countries attending and they were in their homes and I didn't think I could convert that.
But by bringing him on, I worked with the founder of Zoom and I made it so that we could bring people up on screen, not just a 1,000 but bring 25,301,000. I made some software. So when people instead of clapping, they'd shake their phone, sends an electric signal. So if one person you don't hear about 25,000, 30000, it shakes the building. So it's real.
And so I once I did that and I did my biggest seminar was a 1,000,000 and a half people last year for what was it? For for 4 days, 3 days. And it was from 195 countries, every person in the world. And people had such huge transformations. I did it for free because people were stuck at home.
So I made that my tradition. I've done that now for 4 years in a row in January.
Speaker 0: For free.
Speaker 1: For free. And just said, I don't want money. I don't want time. I don't want travel getting your way. And this year, I'm gonna be one for 3 days.
I'm doing it January 25th through 27th. And it's just 2 and a half to 3 hours a day. Instead of going to a movie, come with me at 2 o'clock in the afternoon Eastern, but I have people from 195 countries attending. So and it they'll have a pathway. And what I mean by a pathway is this, what we're being called to by all these problems is you let the sadness or depression or fear overwhelm you or anger.
You're making no progress. It'll blow you up, but you need to understand that all this disruption is a call. You went through a call when Fox made a change with you.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A call is something disrupts your life. It's the hero's journey. Right? You look at all the stories of mankind and you look back and you see there's this same path and you can make it really complex. I like a simpler version.
1st simple version is your life is seeming good or bad and then something disrupts it. You go through a divorce. You suddenly have a health problem. Somebody in your family has a health problem. There's a you lose your job or if something happens to the economy or COVID or whatever.
It doesn't have to be within your control. And what does that require? It means you gotta be called on a new adventure. It makes you get out of your comfort zone. That's where we are right now.
You either fall back and freak out or you discipline your disappointment and you move forward. And what happens? You go on a journey. And on that journey, you're going to face all kinds of demons and challenge and dragons. You're gonna meet some new mentors.
You're gonna develop some new skills. And if you do the hard work and push through, you'll make the decide, you'll be transformed. You'll be the hero of your own life, and you can bring back what you've learned and help other people. And it's not that hard. I mean, I'll give you 7 steps real fast.
I'll get your members of the first four because the other 3 kinda take care of themselves. Step 1, what's makes somebody go on a journey is when they unleash or awaken their deeper desires. So for you, and I don't know for sure, but my bet is the Fox situation was disruptive, but it also unleashed within you new possibilities. Oh, yeah. I could do this on my own terms.
I could do things more international. I'm not gonna be limited what someone else tells me I can or cannot do. And I know you weren't limited very much before, but you have total freedom now to do it. But as you go on that journey, you gotta build a business. You used to work for someone else.
Speaker 0: Yeah. And
Speaker 1: you gotta bring people in, and they're not all gonna perform. And then you discover some people you've been so loyal to are not quite as committed as you are. They're not doing the job, and you have to take on things you probably didn't wanna take on. You're spending your time looking at the big issues and dealing with things, but at some level, you got to deal with the business. And so along the way, you'll have to deal with those challenges.
You'll find new people, you'll find new mentors, you'll develop new skills, and they decide you'll be better off than ever before and be able to come back and help more people. But you have to know what is it you want and why do you want it? Because it's like New Year's resolutions. Why don't they work? Because you don't need a resolution.
You're just basically saying what you want to have happen. Right? It's not really a resolution. When you resolve something, that means you cut off anything except what you've committed to. People don't resolve.
They go, I kinda like this. Most people don't have much of a plan, but if you know what you want with the real clarity and why you want it now, you're on the path. So for example, someone says, how do I know I'm gonna get where I wanna be financially? How do I know I'm gonna get where I wanna be in a relationship or in my business or career? 1st step is what do you want?
If you don't know what you want, you're not even on the path. If you know exactly what you want, you get really clear and you know why you want it. You got enough reasons to push you through. Now the second step is you gotta find and face the truth, and that's what has to happen for everybody. Find and face the truth means see the gap between where you are and where you wanna be.
There's always a gap if you're honest. So instead of, well, I'm big boned is what I used to tell myself when I was £38 heavier. No. I was freaking fat. That's what I was.
Right? But it's as big bone. I have same bones, and I'm £38 lighter instead of this way for 35 years. Right? But when I have that mindset, it got in the way.
So you have to say, here's where I am. Here's where I'm being. You have to be honest. It's not where I want to be. It's uncomfortable.
But then the second part is you got to uncover face the truth. What has gotten in the way in the past? And there's only 5 things usually fear, fear of failure, fear of success, fear of unknown, fear of not looking good for all those things Or 2, a limiting belief. Like, I've tried everything. Once you believe that, you don't even try anything anymore.
Someone trying to lose weight. That's the common one they'll say because they've tried a bunch of things that didn't work or, all the good ones are gone. You know? Right. Right.
Or they're gay and I'm not or I'm gay and they're not or whatever the story is. There's a story, a belief system that limits them. And so it keeps them from maximizing their ability. 3rd thing that could have gotten away, some other emotion, overwhelm, stress, anger, resentment. Those things just shut down your progress.
So you have to make a change. 4th thing that it could be for you. Well, it could really be that you just got some bad habits. It's like people about 52% of what most people do in a day, and I don't know where they come up with these stats. Some say 48, some say 52, roughly half It's all automate automated.
It's it's habit. You're not even thinking.
Speaker 0: Right? That's for sure.
Speaker 1: And what's good about that is you don't think about driving your car. What's bad about that is you get stuck doing the same things over and over, thinking the same thoughts, having the same feelings, not really changing. So you have to say, are there some habits that need to change? I wanna lose £24 and my first thing in the morning is go to Starbucks and have a mocha, smoke or whatever. And it's just you're not gonna get there.
You have to have a different set of habits. And then the 5th one is, or were you missing a skill? Like, Like, for example, some people don't know what to do financially. They don't have investments, so they don't do anything. And then you wake up, like, figuring out why am I so broke?
Well, you're broke because you're a consumer. You're not an owner. You know? So you have to look at what what skill do you need to get? Is there a skill for running your business?
When I started my business, I had no skills. I had passion. I had desire. I had hunger. I had great abilities, but I didn't know how to run a business.
So I learned those skills. And now I've got 114 companies. We do $7,000,000,000 in business across all kinds of different industries you could imagine. It's like, it's the most fun thing in the world because I know how to do it. So if you know what you really want and you face the truth and find the real truth, then you've got to put a massive action plan together.
And that just means not a perfect plan, but just what are some things you do immediately start making progress? Because as you make progress, new insights will come to you. And then the 4th one, and I'll finish with that, the others are quick, is just you have to then do the hard work. You got to slay your dragons. You got to slay that limiting belief or that anger or that hurt or that sadness.
You got to create that compelling future. You gotta go get that skill. And then after those first four steps, you'll have momentum. Now you just need a daily practice, something that puts you in the place of doing the right thing each day. So it becomes a habit.
You need to measure, measure more often. When I take over a company, the first thing I do is measure more often. And I find the things that matter, and I'll measure them not once a year, then you have a bad year. Measure once a month, you're not gonna have bad years. You got 12 times to make it better.
Measure it once a week, you won't have bad months. Measure it once a day. And some companies, when I take over, I'll measure some things 3 or 4 times a day because where focus goes, energy flows. And And so now all of a sudden you're measuring and improving. You've been doing a daily practice.
You'll then get to a point where you can celebrate. And once you celebrate, it starts all over again because you'll be called another journey because we're meant to grow. If you ask people ask me, what does it take to be happy? You met millions of people. What does it take?
So many people are unhappy. Well, relationships are one of the keys to that, but there is one key even within relationship, progress. Progress equals happiness. If you go and achieve some huge goal, I if you ever done this and then you achieve it, you have 1 or 2 experiences. You either go, is this all there is?
Yeah. After you achieved it, which is horrible, it feels worse than failing or you go, wow, this is amazing and you celebrate. But how long do you feel good for after achieving some great goal? 5 years, a year, 6 months, 60 days?
Speaker 0: 20 or 30 minutes.
Speaker 1: 20 or 30 minutes.
Speaker 0: That's a
Speaker 1: Most people are in the 20 to 30 minutes to maybe 2 months max.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right? Why? Because we're not meant to just sit at the table of success and get fat and feel bored. We're meant to grow. And when we grow, we make progress, we feel alive.
And what makes us feel most alive, I know in your life and in mine too, knowing you as a person, is when you grow, you have something to give. And what makes life meaningful is not just a happy life. It's not always happy, but a meaningful life is a life where you serve something more than yourself, something that gives you the energy and excitement, whether it be serving your kids and family or your business or something in your community or something in the world. That's what makes it work. But we all need you on the path, and you can do this within a year.
Where are you unhappy about? My body. Well, first step, do you know exactly what you want and why you want it? Okay. Let's start there.
Okay. 2nd, you know what you want, why you want it? Tell me, have you faced the truth? How big a gap is it specifically? How far off are you?
Let's measure it. And then what's gotten in the way? Is it fear? Is it limiting beliefs? Is it some form of emotion that gets in the way?
Frustration, anger, overwhelmed? Is it some kind of habit you got or is there skill you do get? Okay. Great. Let's get a plan and let's go do the hard work.
Those first four things will get anybody going. Once you do, you'll get the momentum that makes you successful.
Speaker 0: Among the things that, scare people, maybe the top thing that scares people right now is going broke, as you said. And the US economy feels unstable or squirrelly or hard to understand, if nothing else. And most people, myself included, don't have the skills to start a 114 companies. They're just not good
Speaker 1: at Nor did I. Stuff.
Speaker 0: Yeah. But I would say at least I'll speak for myself, I'm never gonna have those skills.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: And, so that's not an avenue that's open to some people, maybe most people. And so how do what you know, like, you you just have a book out holy grail investing in which you talk to people who've been successful in investing, very successful. But if you could just lower the bore a little bit for the average person who doesn't have a ton of money to invest, who's really worried about what's coming, what would you recommend?
Speaker 1: Before I even talk about investment, the most important one is understanding what allows someone to have abundance in their life. And I grew up dirt poor, I think you know and I had 4 different fathers and they're good men and we had no money and no food and what the reason I know you know, I don't know if I told you but 2 years ago I think I last saw you and we've now completed the 1,000,000,000 meals challenge. I decided I wanna feed a 1000000000 meals, and we did it 2 years early. We just completed it last year. Now I'm doing a 100,000,000,000 meal challenge.
But why? Not because I'm such a good person because I grew up poor and we had no food. And so I look back at those days and go, why were my fathers good men? Why were we broke no matter what? Good times are bad.
And why did they lose their jobs at various times? And my original teacher is a man named Jim Rohn. He was a personal development kind of a business philosopher. And one day I sat down with him and I said, I gotta ask you a burning question. Like, how is it so unjust that here's a teacher who can barely survive and then this hedge fund manager over here makes $1,000,000,000 a year?
And he said, Tony, that's a good question. He said, think of it this way. We're all equal as souls, but we're not equal in the marketplace. So what do you mean? He said, well, I'm not being negative, but if somebody works for McDonald's, that's not designed to be your long term job.
Speaker 0: Right.
Speaker 1: It's designed to get you as a starter job, and it doesn't pay very much because anyone can do it. Today, they got pictures. You don't even have to speak the language a 100%, and you can do that job and learn it within a few hours. So it's not very valuable. So it doesn't make a lot.
In fact, now it'll be replaced by machines. Lots of companies are working on that now in the fast food industry. So there's not a lot of value. Now the guy that that that did the $1,000,000,000 that you have judged about, Tony, He said, those teachers you're talking about, some are great. I'm sure you've got some great ones.
Some are not so great. And he said, and there's no standard, and there's a limited number of people they affect. There's nothing wrong with that. It's beautiful. But this guy that made a $1,000,000,000 made $25,000,000,000 for his investors, which include people's pensions, their backgrounds.
When other people are making 4 5%, he made 38%. So they're doubling their money every 2 and a half, 3 years versus doubling their money, let's say, every 10 or 12. So he's adding massive value, and I'm not saying you need to be one of those people. But what you do need to do is what's missing in our culture. Everybody's trying to figure out what am I gonna get from the government?
What am I gonna what can support? Why why is the things that I want looking at the systems instead of myself? And he said, instead, do more work harder on yourself than you do your job. Find a way to become more valuable than anybody else in the marketplace. And if you continually do more for others, if your focus is how can I do more for others than anybody else, you'll win?
That formula I got at 19 years old and I've lived it. It it felt real to me. I mean, the way I kind of live anyway, but I made that the basis of every company I've ever built in. So the companies have become successful because everybody in that culture is how do we do more for anybody else in the industry? And you do that over and over for years, you build a brand and then people seek you out and you succeed.
So the first thing is, what can I do to become more valuable in the marketplace? They asked Warren Buffett the other day. They asked him, what how do you feel about inflation? And what should we do about inflation? And I remember when I interviewed him, I asked him what what was the best investment you could ever make?
And I thought the best investment he'd ever make. And I thought he'd say Coca Cola or, you know, GEICO. I know the company's invested in. He goes, Tony, it's what you teach. I said, well, I teach a lot of things, which one?
And he said, well, he said, I have all these ideas, but they would have died on my lips, but I learned how to communicate. He went through Dale Carnegie. He said that skill was the most valuable skill. And he said, I tell people, do you wanna do well on inflation? And inflation's 8%, 5%, 10%.
All you gotta do is be 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 20% more effective, more productive. How do you do that? You invest in yourself. You said that's the first investment you do. No one can tax it, and it grows.
If the dollar goes down and we go to shekels, if you're a great doctor, you're a great, web designer, you're a great whatever, you will be paid extremely well, but you have to be focused on adding value and you've got to become more valuable yourself. So that's where it starts. 2nd step, I've written 3 number 1 bestsellers and 2 of them, the last 2 were financial ones. This would be my final third one in the trilogy. And the first one, I interviewed 50 of the most successful financial people in the world.
The Ray Dalios, the Warren Buffetts, the Carl Icons, to find out what do they do different and to find out is the game winnable. Because after 2,008, it feels like the game is rigged against game winnable. Exactly. And so I went out and I thought, I can ask some journalists that. They'll tell me their point of view.
That's great. But only talk to people that started with nothing and have become the most successful in the world in their section, in their business. And so I got a chance to have access to those people and one led to another and wow, it was a 4 and a half year journey. And I wrote Money Master the Game out of that. And I was able to show, yeah, you absolutely can win the game.
1st step, answer your earlier question. You've got to start becoming an owner instead of being a consumer. Our entire society makes you a consumer. So you buy an Apple phone every year or 2 or 3, but you don't Apple stock. What are you thinking?
Right? The most only way you're going to become wealthy is either start a business or become an owner of businesses. You don't have to be a great entrepreneur then you just have to invest in some smart people in that area. And so the process of learning how to do that by just doing 2 things, taking a percentage of what you earn, no matter how little it is and locking and automating that to go on an account where you don't see it. That's the first discipline.
There's a guy I wrote about my first book, Theodore Johnson, worked for UPS. Never made more than $14,000 in a single year, retired with $70,000,000 He was a driver. Everybody loved him. He lift everybody's state. If he was sick, where is Theodore?
But a friend of his said, we're gonna take 20% of what you earn, and we're gonna make you wealthy. I'm gonna tax you 20%. He said, I can't live in 14,000 a year ago. We're gonna automate it. It's gonna disappear.
You're gonna adjust, but that money is gonna be your future. That money compounded through just investments in the stock market and UPS to 70,000,000. He gave away 35,000,000 while he was alive. So you don't have to be a superstar business person. You gotta be an owner.
So that's number 1. 2, I wrote unshakable because I knew I didn't know when. Nobody knows when. Obviously, the markets are gonna crack. Obviously, there's gonna be a crash as there was in 2020.
I wrote it before that. And I just showed people how to be unshakable that time, how to win during that time. This book, though, I got really excited because when I wrote those first two books, I learned 4 things that every great investor does. Really, I'd like Ray Dalio is a macro investor. Somebody else might be a value investor, like, you know, Warren Buffett.
There's all different types of investors. They all 50 of them agreed on 4 things. 1st, this is sound stupid. They're all obsessed with not losing money, which is the opposite of most investors. We're trying to figure how to make money because they know if I lose 50% on a stock, I don't need to make 50% to get even.
I gotta make a 100%. Had a 100,000, it drops to 50. I can't just go up 50%. I gotta go up a little higher than that to get back there. So they're obsessed with that.
But how do you do Well, Warren Buffett has a philosophy says rule number 1, investing don't lose money. Rule number 2, see rule number 1. Well, that sounds really nice. How the hell are you gonna do that? 2nd principle, they all agreed on something that sounds complex.
The most important part of your investment future, you don't have to be a genius is what's called asset allocation, big words. All it means is you have a certain amount of money invest $1,000 $1,000,000 doesn't matter. You have to have a pre designed way you're going to do that. It says, I'm going to take some of this, some percentage 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, and put it in something that's secure, meaning low risk, probably low return, but over time, it'll compound. Like, it looks like grass growing until it's, like, it's tortoise in the hair.
Another percentage of my money, I want to put in areas that are more high risk, potentially higher return. But if I lose it all, I need to make sure my security bucket kind of takes care of me. And so they laid this thing out. Each one of them laid it out for me, and they never bet the whole farm on one thing. That's why they succeed.
Pretty simple. 3rd, and I'm gonna show you what I got in this book that blew my mind why I wrote this book in a second. It relates to asset allocation. 3rd principle was you gotta look for what they call asymmetrical risk reward. These words are so big.
All it means is where can I invest with the least amount of risk with the most amount of upside? So if you look at really wealthy people, you think they take giant risks and they look like it. Like, I don't know if you met Richard Branson, but he's a friend of mine. And Richard, he's risked his life in so many ways, going into space, going across the ocean, going in balloons. But if you look about how he invests, his whole thing is what's the downside?
How do we protect the downside? How do we make this asymmetrical? So when he decided to take on, you know, the fight with, you know, British Airways and start his own airwaves, what was the biggest risk? What do you think it would be?
Speaker 0: I I government regulation?
Speaker 1: One of it. The biggest risk is buying all those Boeing airplanes. Well,
Speaker 0: of course.
Speaker 1: Right? So you just assume most people say, well, I gotta buy them and that's the risk. No. No. He negotiated for a year and a half with Boeing to made a deal that said, I'm gonna buy all these planes.
But if within a year, I can't make it work, I get to give all the planes back to you at no loss to me whatsoever. He had nothing but upside, no downside. That changes the way you feel day to day. Right?
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: You know, Paul Tudor Jones is one of the greatest investors in history. I've coached him for 24 years. Unbelievable guy. He made back in 1987 when the stock market dropped 20% a day, still the largest percentage in the day. He made people a 100% that year.
He made more money than what he can imagine. Brilliant guy. Coached him constantly. His whole thing is I'm gonna make an investment. I wanna risk a dollar think I'm gonna make 5.
I might be wrong, but I don't wanna invest till I feel like I got that kind of upside. If I'm wrong, I can invest another dollar and I still can make 4. He can be wrong 4 times and still be okay. So that idea is huge. And then finally, one is diversification, which everybody knows.
Don't put all your eggs in 1 basket, 1 piece of real estate, 1 anything. Oh, that's great. Those 4 are pretty pretty useful. I wrote this book called the Holy Grail Investing because as I'm sitting down with Ray Dalio, one of the greatest investors in history, he has $195,000,000,000 that he manages for even countries and pension funds. He's got the greatest returns ever in 2,008 when things were down, you know, 35, 38%.
He made 8% to give you an idea. Just genius. Ray and I have become good funds over the last 13, 14 years. And one of the times that I first asked questions of him, I spent 10 hours preparing for what's supposed to be a 45 minute interview, which went for 3 hours, you know. And Ray was great because he told us, I get it.
We bounced off each other. But one of the questions I asked him then was, what's the single most important investment principle if you knew nothing else that would make you successful? He was, Tony, I struggled that for 22 years, and I can tell you the answer. He said, I call it the holy grail of investing. That's why the book's titled that.
It's after what Ray taught me. And here's what he said. I finally figured out that the biggest challenge is loss and risk. Everybody wants upside, but to get more upside, take more risk. It's not right for everybody.
He said, but I've discovered if you have 8 to 12 uncorrelated investments, you'll reduce your risk by 80% and increase your upside. Now what does that mean? Uncorrelated. Most people know most people invest in stocks and they think the economy is going great. If it's going not so great, they invest a little bit more in bonds.
One's one's doing great. The other tends to do it. They're usually uncorrelated. But in 2008 and 2020, that wasn't true. They all dropped.
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 1: Right? And if you go to your broker, it goes, I don't know what happened. It's predictable. It happens all the time. So he explained to me lots of depth.
I won't explain here about why that happens, but he said, here's what's unbelievable, Tony. He goes, if you give 8 to 12 that are uncorrelated investments, he said, you can sleep so nicely at night and still have great returns. So I went to go apply that. What's hard because so many things are correlated today. And if you go to the average person, they're investing in stocks and bonds and maybe real estate investment trusts, REITs, but they often get very correlated and then nothing works.
But there is another asset class that most people know nothing about called private equity, private credit and private real estate. And if you go to the Fortune 400 and say, what most billionaires in the world, what industry? Tech? No. Real estate?
Nope. Financial services yet, but it's not hedge funds that go up and down as these guys are private equity. They're the kings of the financial world. It's mind boggling. And one of the reasons is they go out right now, there used to be 8,000 companies you can invest in the stock market.
There's only 3,700 now. They drop, drop, dropped, dropped. If you the S and P 500 people are familiar with 24% of that is 5 companies. It's all concentrated in a small place, not a lot of ways to be uncorrelated. So these guys go out and buy companies and in the old days they try to leverage them, but now they actually do something cool.
They find a better CEO, they find better marketing, they put better technology and they put an AI. They build a company up, they buy it, build it up and they sell it and they have time. Because when you invest with them, your money's tied up for about 5 years. And most of them, they have a great business model. They're making 2% a year where they make you money or not and 20% of the upside.
Why do people invest with them? For the last 35 years, I want your audience to, this is mind boggling. Private equity around the world has outstripped every stock market in the world and its returns. So we'll take the S and P 500 that people are familiar with probably here in the U. S.
Over the last 35 years, it's produced 9.2% compounded on average a year. That's amazing. If you're getting 5%, your money's going to double every 14 years. When you're at 9%, it only takes 8 years to double your money. But private equity, average private equity at 14.2% for those 35 years.
And what does that mean? That means you're compounding 50% faster. So I wrote this book as I will answer the question, how could people get bigger, how could they get to their goals faster with less risk? And And I know the people in the world that do it. So I started interviewing 13 of the biggest guys in the world that are running $100,000,000,000 funds who have produced 20% or more compounded, not 14.2.
Here's the last part. I don't want to throw all the numbers out. Just so you get the picture for everyone at home. If you put $1,000,000 35 years ago in the stock market, s and p at 9.2%, that's worth $26,000,000 today if you never did a thing with it. If you put it in the same private equity at 14.2, it's $139,000,000 for the same time and the same amount of money.
So that's why when you go to wealthy people, remember I said asset allocation, the latest study show ultra high net worth people have 46% of the money in private assets, private equity, private credit, you know, all of those pieces and only 29% in public markets. So you wanna have both. Now how can I write this book? It's only for wealthy people. It always annoyed me that the richest people in the world, the government actually regulates and won't give the average person the opportunity.
You have to be an accredited investor. Right? You're familiar. A $1,000,000 net worth or $200,000 in income is the minimum to be able to do that. Then you get these doors open to you.
But there's a new law that the Congress, the house just passed it and Senate's now taken it up. It was bipartisan. It passed the House already just a couple months ago. They're taking it up now. That allows anyone to not have to have their money to simply take a test.
And then all of a sudden, you have the same quality investments that have these huge returns available to you potentially anyway, then you've never had access to before. A lot of people built a business and sold it, made money. They don't have to invest. So once you take the test, you can do this. And the best part of it all is there are opportunities and we can talk about it.
I know I've been talking forever here, but that allow you to do things that only the wealthiest people in the world would do. Because when I saw this, I said, okay, now I can find my 8 to 12. I got a broader audience, different types of investments that aren't correlated. This is exciting. But then I went to go on my investments and it's kinda like, you know, going to the best club in New York and you got the money, but if you don't know the right people, you're not super attractive.
You're not getting in. Right? Or you have a Ferrari that new Ferraris are all sold in advance to people that already own a Ferrari. Right? You just can't get one.
So I would get little pieces here and there because I was Tony Robbins or I had a friend or something, but not huge, not the amount I wanna invest. One day, I'm sitting down with this friend of mine, Paul Tudor Jones. He's a former partner of his, started his own firm. And I said, I'm so frustrated. I see private equity as the best investments in the world, but the best guys, it's impossible to get in or you get a little tiny sliver.
He's, Tony, can I tell you where I make my the majority of my investments? And this guy's super successful, so I'm leaning in. Yes. Tell me. Because there's this place in Houston, a group called CAS that taught me something.
I didn't I said Houston. I'm expecting to say New York, London, Singapore. Yeah. He goes, that's off the beaten path, but they're the best at this. He goes, there's a way for you where you don't have to try to get in, where you can buy a tiny sliver of the ownership of the companies that own all those funds.
And then you get the 2 and 20. You get cash flow and the growth like your owner right side by side with them. I said, what? And he started explaining to me how that happens. And so now I own a piece of 65 different private equity firms like Vista, a $100,000,000,000 firm written by one of the smartest people I know, Robert Smith.
He built things in the SaaS industry. I have them across different industries. They're all multibillion dollar 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, $100,000,000,000 firms. And I have a sliver of each of them as an owner. And then I don't just get one fund.
I get all the funds, the ones they did in the past, the ones they're doing now, the ones they do in the future. So that's just one example. Another example is people were trying to get returns on on bonds forever. Now they've gone up, you know, 4 or 5%. They're reasonable, but forever they were at 0 because of the interest rates.
Right? So people started looking for, you know, how do I get a better return? And they started investing in junk bonds back in 2021. Junk bond market went like this. You know, they call it the high yield return market.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Because there's risk that it comes
Speaker 1: to huge risk. And they're only giving 3.9%. But in a world we're getting 1, 1a half and 2, people started saying, I'll do it. I was making investments in private credit because see banks, a lot of them, as you know, Silicon Valley and so forth have had challenges. They all tightened over the last 10 years.
Companies money, they go to these private equity guys. They're really good at evaluating and they make loans to them. Well, guess what? When people were, you trying to get 3.9% on these big risky things, I was getting 9% on private credit. And if you own your house and you have a fixed rate mortgage and interest rates did what they've done the last 2 years, you're okay.
You still got 3%. But if you have an adjustable mortgage, it's different, right? A floating rate. Well, business loans are on a floating rate. So those firms that I own, where they were only company to businesses, money to businesses of 5% 6%.
Now those same, they've adjusted, They had to. So now they're paying us, you know, 11%, 12%, 13% for the same loan. That's less than 1% failure rate amongst that marketplace. Any bank would die for that. So these guys are so smart.
So it's like less risky. Now the limitation is your money's tied up for a period.
Speaker 0: Can I ask a dumb question?
Speaker 1: Why No dumb questions.
Speaker 0: I have some dumb questions. Here's here's one. Why would,
Speaker 1: That's the question I asked.
Speaker 0: I think
Speaker 1: I know which one. Why would
Speaker 0: Why would you go if you're seeking to borrow money, why would you go to the private credit markets rather than a bank?
Speaker 1: Oh, because the banks aren't loaning money to a lot of those companies. Do you have any companies up from a 100,000,000 to 3,000,000,000? It's this giant market, and they have a real rough time. Now if you're going to JPMorgan, your Apple is easy to get money. And they don't need it anyway, but it's easy to get that.
But if you're one of those smaller companies under 3,000,000,000, tough to do it, but extremely tough to do it banks. So guess what? They open the market for them and they develop a relationship. They wanna borrow again. Private credit guys know you're good.
They make another loan for you. So it's great for them, but I'm not just making those higher returns. I'm also making the 2 20 along the way. It's mind blowing. I'll give you a third one.
I always wanted, I grew up totally poor and I always wanted to own a sports team because I wanted to be a professional baseball player. I used to go to the Dodgers Stadium way back in the stadium back there, the cheapest seats. And I always wanted that. And so at one point, I finally made enough money that I could participate in the building of the LAFC Football Club. I got to be one of the early investors and design help design the club and it was fun, stadium, the whole thing.
But the microscope I went through for a year to get qualified beside your money is insane. A new law was passed over the last 3 years that a few firms have been able to participate in because they don't use leverage. And you can now invest in companies and get a little slice of teams, multiple teams. So I worked so hard to have the LAFC. Now I have a piece of the Golden State Warriors.
I have a piece of the LA Dodgers. I have a piece of the Boston Red Sox. I have piece of the of the Pittsburgh. You know, what do you call it? Hockey team.
I mean, it's it's amazing. And what's amazing is this used to be putting butts in seats, but what this is is something not correlated to the stock market. Nothing at all. When we have inflation, they charge more for the hot dog and people pay it cause they have fanatics. That's what fan means.
Speaker 0: Right.
Speaker 1: But Henricks are people that first of all, you've got legal monopoly. No one else can compete with you in that city. It's pretty amazing. Second of all, you got fanatic fans. 3rd of all, you have a business that does well even inflationary times.
And if you know, Michael Jordan paid what's 200 and I think it was $38,000,000 for his piece of his team and BA team. He just sold it 12 years later for 3,000,000,000 and kept some of it. That's the kind of growth. In the last 10 years, the growth across Major League Baseball, NBA, hockey and soccer, which are the ones I own together, have averaged 18% compounded per year. So to give you a sense, like at 20%, your money is doubling every 3.5 years you know, at 14% about every 5 years.
So if you want to get to your goals quicker, these are fun ways to do it and they never were available before. You won't find this in any book that I'm aware of anywhere in the world because it's kind of part of this network of people. But you can become that now because you'll be able to tap into this just by either being qualified or getting education to qualify yourself and taking the test.
Speaker 0: What's your view as fascinating? What is your view of debt? So a lot of people feel like they're trapped because they maxed it on their credit cards, honestly. So what do you do about that?
Speaker 1: Well, you have to pay it down. You have to develop a plan. You got a spending plan and or find a way to earn more by finding a way to add value, some new skill, new ability, some new business, some new, you know, hustle that you're gonna do on the side. But But I think the biggest thing you gotta realize is if you take money and you borrow money to buy a flat screen TV, that's pretty idiotic because that's gonna depreciate. It's gonna give no value.
But if you borrowed some money to buy a tractor for your farm, that's gonna make you more productive. You'll be able to pay back the loan and be more productive and your business grow. So the question is, are you using it just to survive or get things or using it to get more resources? When you use it for more resources, then debt can be very valuable for people, but too much debt will stress anybody out and too much debt will take any company down a threat in balance.
Speaker 0: So you in other words, you've got a more flexible view of it. There are times when you think debt is wise and times when it's unwise.
Speaker 1: And it's for not only the times, it's what's it for. Is it for increased productivity? Is it for something that's gonna expand your capacity, your skill, your ability, tools for your business, tools for your career? Or is it just for a purchase of something that you probably should just wait on because once you spend that money, you're paying interest on it now, high interest. I mean, credit cards are now just insane.
They were insane before, but I don't know. I saw the other day. I don't know if it's accurate. I I saw that the average was over 20% now. I mean, that's insane to borrow money at that level for some some consumer item.
Speaker 0: So you would you would opt out of that immediately?
Speaker 1: I'd opt out of that, and I'd start paying that down. And then I'd start to take a percentage of my income even if it's super small. And so I'm gonna use this to be an owner. I'm gonna take it off the top even and then I'll figure out how to invest it, but I gotta have that automated by my bank or by my investment company. So I don't see it, and I'll start to adjust.
And then I start to have it. I mean, look at people don't understand. They have all heard of compounding.
Speaker 0: Right.
Speaker 1: The richest people in the world don't do it by getting rich. How many athletes have you interviewed? How many movie stars you interviewed that were rich? They made $10,000,000 a year. Kim Basinger used to was the highest paid actress of the nineties, won Academy Awards, was getting $10,000,000 a picture, went bankrupt.
We both know Mike Tyson, a good friend of ours. Right? And Mike, I love Mike to death. He made a half a $1,000,000,000 in income and went bankrupt. Right?
So that's not the way that you get wealthy. You get wealthy by taking a little bit of money over time and compounding it. So I tell parents, teach your kid who's 19, put $300 a month away. Sounds like a lot, but they don't have any overhead. They can do it.
Put in the stock market, average returns 8% over time, 8 to 10. Don't let them touch it. And if they started at 19, then just do it to 27 years old, $300 a month. The total amount is, like, $28 over those 8 years. Never invest again.
They're set. Right? Let's say they have a brother. He starts at 27. Same amount of money, $300, and does it till least 65.
He spent $138,000 roughly in, and he's done it for 38 years, not 8 years. He has less money at the end because compounding, the first guy's got 1,800,000 and all he did was invest for 8 years, $300 a month, put it in the stock market. The second one has 1,500,000, but he didn't have as much time. He took longer to do it. He started later, so he didn't get the same level of compounding.
So compounding just like the million versus a 139,000,000, 26 or a 139. It's both getting in the game, and it's where you put it. And so this book is trying to show people where you put it. And then I interviewed 13 of the masters of the universe and found out, like, what is their approach? And ironically, it's what I taught you earlier, what I mentioned earlier.
Their whole focus is not to just buy a stock when it's down or buy a company when it's down. They wanna buy a company. Right? But the whole thing is how do we add value? How do we take this company and make it more valuable than it's ever been and then take it public or sell it to a bigger company?
And that's where they make their profits. And the other value is they don't drop as much because when markets go down, they can buy. When markets go up, they can sell because they've tied up your money for 5 years. So all your money can't go in those types of investments because you need some liquidity. But it's if you're gonna wanna try to maximize to get to a retirement in the world we're in today, might be nice to have the smartest people in the world on your side and be their partner making 2% right beside them as an owner in the business and making 20% of the upside.
Think about it. They have a these are very few of them, this small, a $1,000,000,000 in funds. They're going to be guaranteed 20%, right? That's what the 2% is going to give them $20,000,000 a year for 5 years. They're gonna make 100,000,000 dollars whether they make money or not.
And most of them are good at making money. So in 5 years, they take the $1,000,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 Didn't have to hire a ton more people and they're going to make 20% of that side. They make $300,000,000 on a $1,000,000,000 That's why there's more of those in the Fortune 400 than any other industry. So I said, there's a good pathway. Perhaps that's a pathway you and I should take advantage of as long as we're smart enough to see what's there and willing to educate ourselves instead of living like I can't do it and the game's against me.
Well, there are some things
Speaker 0: So that's that's actually what I I wanted to close on since we began the conversation by my noting that it's there's a sadness palpable, and you pointed to the reality of that and then suggested an upside to it or at least a different way to think about it. Yep. You've mentioned twice the perception that people have that's grounded in some reality that the system is rigged, and you kinda can't win. You said it it emerged after 2,008. I think that's right, but it's only become more profound.
I mean, people really feel that way.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 0: How what do you say to them?
Speaker 1: I say you got your your experience of your life is not your life. Your experience of life is the life you focus on. So right now, if I wanna figure out what's wrong, I'm sure I can find a 1,000,000 things. I got a, you know, a 100 plus companies, lots of employees all over the world in different industries. What are the chances right now somebody's screwing up?
It's screwing up is doing what I don't think they should be a 100%. I can focus on that, be all stressed out, or I can focus on what I can control. I can focus on what can be dying, focus on what's great. What's wrong is always available, so it's what's right. So we've always had problems like that.
Study history. I hear people talking about this is the worst time in history politically. We've never been each other's throats like this, and I don't have it with me. I wish I did. I could pull it out for you.
I have this little write up that's 2 different posters that were during the time of Adams versus Jefferson. If you read what they were saying about each other, it looks calm compared to Republicans and Democrats and Liberals and conservatives say today. We've always had it cycles. We go through cycles. And if you know cycles, you're not so fearful.
You say, okay. This has happened before. What do I need to do to take advantage of this? But if you just go in a mindset of, oh my god. It's rigged against me.
I can't win, then it's not fulfilling. So you have to not be one of the many. You have to think differently. You gotta educate yourself. One of the biggest things Jermaine taught me is he said, look.
If you wanna have an extraordinary life, you need to feed your mind and not let everybody else feed it. And so when I was totally broke, my mom kicked my dad out, and she chased me out on Christmas Eve with a knife. She wouldn't have killed me or anything, but I wasn't going back in that house. She was a little crazy. She abused alcohol and prescription drugs.
I love my mom. I love me who I am without my mom, but it was
Speaker 0: But I assume you're bigger than her.
Speaker 1: I I am bigger than her, but I was 52 in high school. 51, and she grabbed me here and smashed me. It's all poured liquid soap down my throat. I mean, she was and I you know, you learn to acquiesce. But, anyway, my point is, I was on my own trying to figure out what the heck am I gonna do.
And, you know, it's Christmas Eve. I'm sleeping on the hill and it starts raining. I sleep in somebody's, you know, friend of mine's laundry room. And then I I I was felt so depressed. I remember Jim Rohn.
I'd met him when I was 17 saying, every day, you gotta stand guard at the door of your mind. You say you should read 30 minutes a day, not what comes to these days on your phone, not clickbait, something philosophy or a skill or a psychology or a tool that makes you better every day. Just 30 minutes a day, it'll change your life because you you're feeding your mind something different than what everybody else feeds them. And so I I put this little 5 step plan together back then. I I did it again back in 2008 because I had all these companies not not same numbers now, but and it was rough.
In 2008, I had my billionaire friends were in trouble and so was my barber. I mean, we all were affected by it. And I did the same 5 steps. Step 1, if you wanna be emotionally fit, if you wanna be able to say when all hell's breaking loose, I can still do incredibly well. You've got it every single day do something to feed and strengthen your mind.
So for me, that's reading 30 minutes a day or doing an audio. That's easier because I call audio net time, no extra time. I can do all I'm driving while I'm working out, and I get to feed my mind something different than all the crap that comes to you that's designed to get your attention and make money from you. That's right. So every day, 30 minutes a day.
And then Ron used to say Jim Ron used to say to me, I'll never forget. He said, Tony, he goes, I got a question for you. He said, if if your worst enemy puts sugar in your coffee, what's gonna happen? I said, you're gonna have sweet coffee. So what if your best friend, a family member, somebody you love by accident drops 1 ounce of strychnine in your coffee?
What happens? I said, you're dead. He goes, that's right. Life is both sugar and strychnine, so watch your coffee, which he said, every day, stand guard at the door of your mind, what you let in because that's what's controlling your life.
Speaker 0: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: And then the second piece I added to it was I learned was that your mind is controlled by your body as well. You can't separate them. So every day you gotta feed and strengthen your body in somewhat. You gotta push it beyond what you're comfortable with. Today, most people are so unhappy in their work.
I just read the study the other day. It's 38% of the people. It's like up 33% from before from the early days of COVID are totally unhappy in their work. They wanna do something else. They don't look forward to it.
It's huge. What's happened? They don't wanna go to work because they were paid to stay at home, and they got used to it. But now that they're home, they're feeling isolated alone. That's because the path of least resistance will never make you proud.
It'll never make you happy. It'll never make you strong. You get strong building muscle by pushing against something that's difficult. So these people are trying to have so much self care every moment and be by themselves and nurture themselves that they're not growing. And when you're just by yourself and you don't have something to serve more than yourself, you're not gonna do much.
And also we sat forever. And the average person, I don't know what the real weight gain was is I read one study said £14, once at 18. I don't know what's really real, but most people gain weight. They were sitting doing nothing. But when you push your body to lift some weights or to walk extremely fast or to run or something where get in the pool where you have to push and you get strong, it changes your emotion because fear and anger are the 2 emotions that mess up most of your life, your relationships, your business, your life.
And fear and anger are both physical. Do you really fearful? I don't know if you ever felt that in your gut or the back of your throat. You know, it's physical, but so is courage. Courage is you're scared, but you do it anyway, but that's also physical.
It's a sense of certainty. And when you push your body, you get it. 3rd, if someone's listening saying, how do I have a better year? 3rd thing you gotta do is find some great role models. Because in spite of all the BS you hear out there, yes, I'm no dummy.
The majority of people are not happy. They're not fit. They don't have great relationships. They don't have great passion. They don't love their work.
That's not everybody. I like studying the few who do, finding out what they do and do what they do. So the same seeds reap the same rewards. So you find great role models. Role models make it real.
And then 4th, you need a massive action plan. You gotta get yourself in action, not wait till everything's perfect. And if you try something and it doesn't work, try something else. If that doesn't work, try something else. Most people try it.
It didn't work and they give up. It's like I said to people, how long would you give your average child to learn how to walk? You know, before you cut them off and said, dude, you're just not a walker. You know, your your kid's gonna go, what are you crazy? Your parents gonna go, my kid's gonna keep trying until he or she walks.
That's why most people walk. Right? Just not a walker. So so different, but that's how people's mindsets are. Right?
So if you if you have a massive action plan to keep changing your approach, you'll get there. And then the 5th step to me, and I did this way back then, was go find somebody worse off than you and take care of them, do something for them. Yeah. Because that always changes the game. So I was fed when I had no money in food, so I fed 2 families and then 4 and then 8 and then a 1000000000 meals now.
Now I'm more than a 100,000,000,000. It you know, I couldn't even conceive that kind of number that I did what was in front of me. I fed 2 families and it felt so amazing because when I was with these families, I didn't go as the as the person giving it. I went as the delivery person because I didn't wanna offend them, but I wanna see the impact And to see these families, their lives change and their families and their children change, everything else, and the joy in their life. And I know for me, it wasn't the food that changed my life.
It was that day when I got fed, I made a new belief that strangers care. As strangers care about me and my family, that I need to care about strangers. It's one of the reasons I'm here today. So you can change somebody's life by doing that, but also it creates contrast. You think your life is so difficult and you see somebody else's life.
Speaker 0: Totally right.
Speaker 1: Or you travel the world and you realize America's a pretty damn good place with all its flaws. Is as good a place as ever in place on earth for most people. So it's just, it's providing those steps, those little things you can do can change at all. And that's, by the way, what I'm doing. That's I'm doing this again this year.
I wanna just mention some people wanna join us. It's the whole focus of our it's a 3 day seminar. It's 2 and a half, 3 hours a day, 3 days in a row, 25th January to 27th. So it's at 2 pm Eastern, but we have people all over the Earth, 195 countries will attend. You'll be connected to over a 1000000 people in our community who can help you and support you.
But the kind of results people got by doing that when they were stuck at home before, because you can do it from your home or your office with your friends, family, by yourself. I, you know, I had one guy that the one that stands out for me is this guy I I had the bring him up on screen. I interact with people. And this guy is in his bed. He weighed over £700.
He'd been in bed for 6 years, naked. He has his brother died. He took some drugs to try to deal with it. Those drugs affected his body, and he had breathing oxygen. He was told he'd never be able to breathe on his own without the oxygen in bed, let's go to the bathroom, never gets up to go to the bathroom, never been out of the bed.
He got so inspired that he took a, not a coat hanger, but like a one of those little light metal things. And he started doing this little daily practice of doing these exercises. And I gave him, you know, a task. I said, you do these things. You get to where you go to the bathroom.
You get to where you can drive a car again. I'll fly you to my seminars, my guest, and we'll take a next level. We'll have you walk on fire. We'll do the whole thing. He got inspired.
He did this, got muscle strength, got off the oxygen, made it to the bathroom. I think it took him 3 months. He's now he was £700. He's lost £310 to give you an idea, came to the seminar, transformed his life, and he never would have seen it because he never come to a seminar or be in bed. Had this guy that was just got out of prison.
I just saw him 2 weeks ago, and, he's a pretty tough guy, tattoos all over his body. You know, people treated me. He got really mean. He was really horrible with women, went to jail and got out and he had a little girl and couldn't see her. They wouldn't let him see her.
And so he set a goal to start chancing himself, started doing all these little daily practices. And I was on 2 weeks ago, he's got full custody now. He's able to be with his daughter. He's coaching other people. He attended the seminar in his truck.
He was driving a truck for a living, getting out of prison. He'd pull over, and he's watching on that. And so a woman who lost, you know, her baby, her child at 2 years old, the cancer is horrific. Seeing her change, seeing people double or triple their businesses. So we have amazing abilities.
It's no BS to say you can go from where you are to where you wanna go, but you'll never get there with it's all rigged against me. Some of it is rigged against us. It's true. But that doesn't stop you from being able to still create an extraordinary quality of life if you build a path.
Speaker 0: Amazing. Tony Robbins.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 0: I've been there's a reason you're famous. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I wanna tell people. Go to time to rise summit. The time to rise summit.com. No charge for it whatsoever, and you come attend from wherever you are.
Speaker 0: I should also say for those who don't know, Tony Robbins knows more people in the world than anyone I've
Speaker 1: ever met on my own. We have no mutual friends with me.
Speaker 0: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 0: Free speech is bigger than any one person or any one organization. Societies are defined by what they will not permit. Is the total inversion of
Speaker 1: virtue.
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AP journalist Matt Lee holds John Kirby’s feet to the fire on NATO’s encroachment of Russia. https://t.co/Q2mEiGzu0B
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NATO and Russia debate over who is responsible for the Russian army's proximity to NATO's doorstep. NATO argues its expansion is defensive, while Russia blames NATO for moving closer to its borders. The discussion delves into the perception of threat and territorial integrity violations in Ukraine. Despite NATO's expansion eastward, they maintain it is not hostile. The conversation highlights differing perspectives on the situation.
Translation: The debate between NATO and Russia revolves around the Russian army's presence near NATO's borders. NATO sees its expansion as defensive, while Russia accuses NATO of moving closer to its territory. The discussion touches on the perceived threat and violations in Ukraine, showcasing differing viewpoints.
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Speaker 0: To look at this and say the reason that the Russian army is on NATO the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is because NATO has expanded rather than the Russians expanding? That in other words, NATO has moved closer to Russia rather than Russia moving closer to NATO. Is that not an accurate way to look at this?
Speaker 1: I think that's the way President Putin probably looks at it. It's certainly not the way that we look at it.
Speaker 0: You don't you don't think that NATO has expanded eastward toward Russia?
Speaker 1: NATO has expanded. And and the expansion has been a good thing for
Speaker 0: So the reason that the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is not the fault of the Russian army, not the it's not the Russian Army that's done it. It's NATO has moved closer to
Speaker 1: moving Are you sure it wasn't NATO who was ordering, upwards of 15 battalion tactical groups to within 10 kilometers of the border with Ukraine, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who put little green men inside Ukraine to destabilize eastern states. I'm pretty
Speaker 0: sure that Ukraine is not a member of NATO. So unless that's changed
Speaker 1: It's not it's not changed. But I'm pretty sure the movement by Russia
Speaker 0: is Russia's decision. If NATO has moved east, the reason that the Russian army is closer or on NATO's doorstep is because NATO moved,
Speaker 1: not based on MR KIRBY: NATO is not an
Speaker 0: anti Russia alliance. NATO is a security alliance. For 50 years, it was an anti Soviet alliance. So do you not understand it, Togo? Do you not understand how or can you not even see how the Russians would perceive it as a as a threat?
And the fact that it keeps getting closer to their border while their troops I mean, the places where their troops are you say their troops are and may have been in Ukraine and Georgia are not made up of them?
Speaker 1: I don't have I'm not gonna pretend to know what goes in president Putin's mind or Russian military commanders. I mean, I barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida. What I can tell you what I can tell you is that is that, NATO is a defensive alliance. It remains a defensive alliance. Fair enough.
Speaker 0: But it has moved east. Correct? I mean, that's just the fact that
Speaker 1: It has expanded.
Speaker 0: Absolutely. Right. Exactly.
Speaker 1: But there's no reason for anybody to think the expansion is a hostile or threatening move. And we've been saying that throughout the last 15 years, Matt. You're
Speaker 0: you're moving closer to Russia. You're blaming the Russians for being close to NATO. No.
Speaker 1: No. No.
Speaker 0: That's that's exactly what Haig was calling.
Speaker 1: Blaming the Russians for violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine and destabilizing the security of Ukraine.
Speaker 0: Which is not a NATO. Which is not a NATO.
Speaker 1: I I I see people Other countries feel threatened.
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Kash Patel criticizes Republicans for reauthorizing Section 702, enabling election interference until 2024. He argues that this decision rewards those who broke the law, specifically targeting Donald Trump.
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Kash Patel provides a great explanation of FISA and blasts the Republicans for reauthorizing Section 702 through 2024 which will allow election interference through the next election cycle. “The Republican majority rewarded them for breaking the law and allowing this election interference to continue through 2024, mainly against Donald Trump.”
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The speaker expresses concern about the politicization and weaponization of the justice system, specifically regarding the FISA process. They highlight how the FISA court found that the FBI illegally used FISA 275,000 times against Americans, including cases related to January 6th. The speaker criticizes Congress for reauthorizing FISA and argues that it has been turned inward, targeting Americans and groups associated with January 6th. They suggest that Congress should have implemented reforms to prevent abuse of power. The speaker also criticizes FBI Director Christopher Wray for not effectively addressing the issue and accuses the Republican leadership of rewarding the FBI for breaking the law and interfering in elections, particularly against Donald Trump.
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Speaker 0: The biggest concern I have going forward is the politicization and weaponization and creation of a two tier system of justice as a result. Back when Devin Nunes and I ran the Russiagate investigation and exposed the FISA corruption, we recommended a slew of fixes so it never happen again. Unfortunately, congress chose to allow it's seven zero two FISA to basically be reauthorized. What does that mean? What is seven zero two?
It's fancy for foreign intelligence surveillance. It means me as a former national security prosecutor and intelligence operative would go overseas and manhunt terrorists. That's what it's for. But the FISA court in April of 2022 publicized as an opinion that said the FBI used it illegally 275,000 times domestically against Americans. 16 different occasions against those affiliated with January 6th, 19,000 times domestically against donors to a congressional campaign and wait for it 24,000 separate times against Americans and groups in and around January 6th.
That FISA process has been turned on its head, redirected inwards. And anyone who says, oh, that's just a Republican conspiracy speak, that's the FISA court that rescinded Rod Rosenstein's illegal surveillance of Donald Trump twice based on our investigation. And now they do it again, and they proved the FBI and DOJ have weaponized justice, and the Republican leadership in congress allowed it to be reauthorized essentially through the next election cycle. So what will this mean in terms of the FBI, Christopher Wray going into the next election? Well, that's just it.
The Christopher Wray goes to congress and says, I fixed it all. We have more training. Well, unfortunately, when you have the police officers, the cops in this country break the law, we can't rely on themselves to police themselves, that is a communist form of a police, representation. What we have to have had done is congress to put forth a bill that put in cops from congress in the FISA process at the FISA court limiting their abuse of this power. I mean, just think of it.
If Chris Wray and Merrick Garland and company utilized the FISA process to manhunt terrorists that were illegally coming into our country through our southern border, we wouldn't lose 2 dozen of them based on their own testimony. And so what Chris Wray has now done is weaken American national security and redirected one of the most sensitive intelligence intelligence apparatuses against elections and those protesting their free speech right within America. And every time the FISA court asked the FBI, why did you allow your agents to do this? Their answer was I could not recall, and they get them they gave them a get out of jail free card in the Republican majority. I know this is harsh.
Rewarded them for breaking the law and allowing this election interference to continue through 2024 mainly against Donald Trump. Wow. There
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Transgender ideology claims that people can be born into the wrong body, but this is not supported by the fact that human sexuality is binary. Reproduction requires a man and a woman, as indicated by the sex chromosomes. Gender identity is a matter of thoughts and feelings, which can be factually correct or incorrect. Persistently believing in a false identity is considered a delusion, such as thinking one is Margaret Thatcher or a cat. People with body identity integrity disorder believe they are amputees trapped in a normal body. Wanting to remove healthy breasts and genitals is seen as transgender, not a mental illness. The transgender rights movement is using individuals with disorders of sex development to advocate for a civil right to mental illness, which does not exist.
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Speaker 0: Essentially, transgender ideology holds that people can be born into the wrong body. It's simply not true. Human sexuality is binary. Okay. We know this because, in nature, Reproduction is the rule.
And human beings, we engage in sexual reproduction. You need a man and a woman to do that. Women RXX, those are the sex chromosomes. Women have 2 X Xs. Men have an X and a Y.
Those are genetic markers. They're genetic markers for female and male, respectively. Okay. Binary. That's the rule, and it's self evident.
Transgender, someone who identifies as transgender, however, that's not a problem in their body. Gender identity, all identities, they're in our thoughts. Thoughts and feelings, those are not hardwired. They develop. And They may be factually wrong or factually correct.
The definition of a delusion is a fixed false belief. So if I persistently, consistently insist that I am Margaret Thatcher, or persistently, consistently insist that I am a cat, Or, I'm an amputee trapped in a normal body. I am delusional. And in fact, There are people who believe they are amputees trapped in a normal body. They are appropriately diagnosed as having body identity integrity disorder.
If you want to cut off an arm or a leg, you're mentally ill. But if but if you want to cut off healthy, healthy breasts and genitals, oh, then you're transgender and you don't have a mental illness. Individuals with disorders of sex development are being used as pawns in the fight for basically a civil right to mental illness. There's no such thing as a civil right to a mental illness, but that is in fact what we are dealing with with the Transgender rights movement.
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ITV gets a Muslim "teacher" on named Latifa Abouchakra to lie and moan about living in the UK, saying people call her a "terrorist". Transpires she literally does support terrorism. Couldn't make it up. https://t.co/f8N0QVT2jZ
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A British Palestinian woman in London shares her experiences of feeling unsafe due to being called a terrorist and facing threats. She believes that Muslims and Palestinians are unfairly labeled as terrorists by the media and politicians. In a recent event, Palestinian resistance factions launched multiple attacks on Israel, including sailing over the Israeli fence using hand gliders, launching rockets, and breaking down the fence with bulldozers. The resistance seized military bases, captured tanks, and took settlers as prisoners of war.
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Speaker 0: I've been called a terrorist. I've been asked to go back home. I've had people in their cars making threatening gestures.
Speaker 1: For people like Latifa Abu Chakra, a British Palestinian living in London, just going about her daily business doesn't feel safe.
Speaker 0: It makes me feel that as a Muslim Woman in this country, no matter how hard I work, no matter how good I can be, It will never be enough because apparently, Muslims and Palestinians are inherently terrorists according to the system here, according to the narrative Of the media and according to the narrative of the of the politicians.
Speaker 2: As fragile as a spider's web, The Zionist entity is shaking with fear. In an early morning shock, Palestinian resistance factions from Gaza launched an unprecedented three attack on the entity. 1st, armed fighters sailed over the Israeli French to Gaza using hand gliders. Simultaneously, 5,000 rockets were launched into the Zionist entity from the open air prison of Gaza, disabling that much launched Iron Dome At the same time, Palestinians broke down the fence, which fighters had sailed over using bulldozers. What ensued was the homecoming of at least 1,000 Palestinians from the resistance factions into the fragile Zionist entity.
Military bases were seized by the resistance, and Israel's Merkava tanks were captured and taken back to Gaza. Settlements like The who Zionist guests had previously watched from hilltops while Reza was bombed were seized by the resistance. Over 100 settlers have taken as prisoners of war by the resistance. The vast majority are members of the occupation forces.
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BREAKING: New information in the drowning death of Obama's personal chef, Tafari Campbell. Obama confirmed to be at the scene of the crime. 👀 Secret Service has surveillance footage of Tafari Campbell before he died https://t.co/SoEmxRMCbT
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New information has emerged in the drowning death of Obama's personal chef, Tafari Campbell. The Massachusetts state police released a report, revealing that Obama was present at the scene shortly after Campbell went missing. The report also mentions that a female staffer attempted to rescue Campbell but was unsuccessful. The Secret Service possesses surveillance footage of Campbell from Obama's compound just before he entered the water. We apologize deeply to Tafari's family for this tragic incident.
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Speaker 0: Fox News alert. We have new information tonight in the drowning death of Obama's personal chef, Tafari Campbell. The Massachusetts state police responded to our foil request and released their report with some redactions. According to the report, Obama was on the scene shortly after Campbell went missing. Report also states an unmanned female staffer jumped into the water when Tafari fell off his board, but it was already too late.
He disappeared. We also now know that Secret Service has surveillance footage of Campbell from Obama's compound moments before he entered the water. So we're gonna see if we can get that, and we may have that for you. Again, we're very, very Sorry for Tafari's family. That was a serious, serious tragedy.
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Kash Patel reveals shocking connections between senior Biden officials and Hamas/Iran. Robert Malley, Biden's envoy to Iran, had his security clearance suspended amid an investigation into mishandling classified materials. Iranian emails suggest Malley placed Ariane Tabatabai, an Iranian agent, in sensitive US government positions. Maher Bitar, on Biden's National Security Council, was an executive director of "Students for Justice in Palestine" and called for boycotting Israel. Despite these associations, Bitar influences intelligence prioritization for Biden. Tabatabai, who emailed Iran's foreign minister in 2014 seeking permission for a US government trip, remains employed at the Department of Defense. Unbelievable.
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Kash Patel spilling some Major Tea 🫖 https://t.co/Hw5kn0sMhj
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The video discusses alleged infiltration of the Biden administration by individuals with ties to Iran. The speaker highlights three key figures: Maher Patel, head of intelligence programs in the National Security Council, who is accused of prioritizing intelligence collection efforts in favor of Iran; Robert Malley, Biden's envoy to Iran, whose security clearance was suspended by the FBI; and Arianne Tabatabay, an Iranian national employed in the Department of Defense's special operations office. The speaker suggests that these individuals pose a threat to American priorities such as border security and countering China and Iran. The speaker questions why the House Intelligence Committee has not investigated these allegations further.
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Speaker 0: Taxpayers. Now we're spread out all over hell's half acre. Go ahead, brother. Tell me about the Persian infiltration of our government.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know you're sitting down, but you're probably gonna need a couch after this one. Look. I laid it out in my op ed last week, the groundwork about the intentional intelligence failures The Biden regime has led to this World War 4, and I promised the war room posse I'd come back. I'm just finishing the op ed right now that lays out what I'm going to tell you right now.
1st ever heard preview. The intelligence decisions by the Biden administration reprioritizing away from the southern border, away from terrorists, away from Iran, away from China. Do you know who they're being made by? There's 1 individual in the White House national security shop, head of intelligence programs. His name is Maher Patel.
Maher Patel. Yes. Remember that name. He is solely responsible for prioritizing what collection efforts on intelligence Parts here 1, 2, 3, and 4 for president Biden. Why is this guy's name important?
Well, 1, he used to work for Samantha Powers, but let's put that aside in the United Nations. 2, we just found a photo of Maher Bator, recently, wearing Palestinian garb, raising a hand Behind a picture that said, we want Jewish apartheid. This is the guy in charge of intelligence operations For the United States of America, that's step 1. Step 2, Robert Malley, Biden's number 1 envoy, the guy that's supposed to be keeping us out of war in Iran, Had his clearance, security clearance, suspended by Chris Wray's FBI, of all people, just 2 months ago. You gotta ask why.
They won't publicly release it. Well, let me tell you why. Because a individual named Arianne Tabatabay, Who, by the way, is currently running our special operations office at the Department of Defense, was installed there by Robert Malley. Yes. The former presidential envoy to Iran installed this Iranian national to that position in DOD.
And do you know what she did in 2014? She emailed the prime minister's office in Iran excuse me, the foreign minister, Zavad Jarif, And ask for permission as a US citizen to take a trip on behalf of the US government. This individual is still employed At the Department of Defense as the assistant chief of staff for the Special Operations Office. The Iranian regime has infiltrated the Biden administration. We have to find out why Robert Malley got booted.
We know this has to do with this lady, in part. But do you think Chris Wray's FBI would suspend his security clearance and And remove him from his post if it wasn't something totally cataclysmic? This is what I'm talking about. We have to put intel in its place. And these people have been installed, by our enemies to distract away from protecting against American priorities on the border and taking out The CCP and Iran, and now Hang on.
They're in the house.
Speaker 0: Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Go through all 3 again and the positions they're in.
These are not random grandoons. Right? When you go in these meetings, they got 50 people. These are players. Give me give me the billet and the person in in in in in a problem with it, Kash.
Speaker 1: Maher Bhattar, the head of intel programs in the National Security Council. He sits in the White House and is responsible for all of intelligence collection priorities in the United States of America. This guy is the one who we now have, and I've posted on truth social, A photo, being pro Palestinian and standing in front of a picture that supports the apartheid of the Jews in Israel. Oh, I forgot to tell you this about him, Bannon. Maher Bator was general counsel to Adam Schiff when I was doing the Russiagate investigation.
This dune authored the Schiff memo. And then Robert Malley, Biden's presidential envoy to Iran, suspended by the FBI Because of a security clearance issue. It's now been taken off the case, and Arianna Tabatai is the assistant chief of staff To the Department of Defense's special operations office. She is the one directly communicating the Iranian foreign ministry. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Exactly. Okay. Those 3.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 0: Cash. How many times how many times do you have senior level guys, senior level personnel, directly prime president, that have the security clearance pulled? How often does that happen?
Speaker 1: Well, it happens to us, but never by Chris Wray to a Biden administration official. So you gotta ask the question, what the heck are you doing? And why isn't house intel all over this investigation? Why haven't they subpoenaed Ray and been like, wait a second. You got to tell us why this guy, who Who's the number 1 Iranian diplomat for the United States of America has been suspended.
It's like the story just disappeared. And how is his emissary Still employed at the Department of Defense and communicating with Iranian officials.
Speaker 0: Kash, can you hang on for one
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NEW - Kash Patel highlights the unbelievable connections between three senior Biden intelligence officials—Robert Malley, Ariane Tabatabai, and Maher Bitar—and their associations with Hamas and Iran. On June 29, 2023, Robert Malley was placed on unpaid leave from his role as Joe Biden's special envoy to Iran, and his security clearance was suspended due to an ongoing investigation into the potential mishandling of classified materials. On September 29, 2023, Semafor reported that Malley was involved in funding, supporting, and directing an Iranian intelligence operation to influence the United States and allied governments, as revealed by a collection of Iranian government emails. These emails suggested that Malley facilitated the placement of an Iranian agent of influence named Ariane Tabatabai in sensitive positions within the U.S. government, initially at the State Department and later at the Pentagon, where she has been serving as Chief of Staff for the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations. On October 16, 2023, Revolver News reported that Maher Bitar, who is Senior Director for Intelligence Programs on Joe Biden’s National Security Council, was also an executive director of the “Students for Justice in Palestine” group that reportedly responded to the recent Hamas terror attack on Israel by organizing a “Day of Resistance” in support of Hamas’ “historic win” against Israel. Bitar was photographed wearing a black and white “keffiyeh,” a symbol of Palestinian nationalism, and standing in front of a sign that reads, “Divest from Israel Apartheid.” Kash Patel has pointed out that Maher Bitar plays a significant role in determining intelligence prioritization for President Biden, even though there is a photo of him wearing Palestinian attire, calling for the economic and political boycott of Israel. Robert Malley, who recently had his security clearance suspended by the FBI, installed Ariane Tabatabai at the Department of Defense as the Assistant Chief of Staff for the Special Operations Office. Do you know what she did in 2014? "She emailed Iranian foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and asked for permission as a U.S. citizen to take a trip on behalf of the US government. This individual is still employed at the DOD." Unbelievable