Dennis Meadows, a member of the Club of Rome, suggests that Earth can only sustain 1 or 2 billion people with liberty and material consumption. He believes a strong dictatorship could support 8 or 9 billion. However, it is argued that the world's population of 8 billion can comfortably fit in Texas, with enough space and food for everyone. The key is to not solely rely on electric vehicles and solar panels, but to explore secret technology for unlimited clean energy.
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@timingnl - Timothy Robert
Club of Rome member Dennis Meadows, stuck in his Beliefs, calls for a depopulation
โEarth can support 1 or 2 billion people depending on how much liberty & material consumption you want to have
We could have 8 or 9 billion, probably if we have a very strong dictatorshipโ https://t.co/8vOzd6YE2l
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The speaker acknowledges that the global population and consumption levels are unsustainable for the planet. They express a desire for a peaceful and civil reduction in population, emphasizing that peace does not mean everyone will be happy, but rather conflicts should be resolved without violence. The speaker suggests that the planet can support around 1-2 billion people depending on the desired level of liberty and consumption. They mention the possibility of having more people under a smart dictatorship, but highlight the importance of freedom and a high standard of living. The speaker hopes for a gradual and equal reduction in population, avoiding a scenario where a few wealthy individuals impose the burden on others. They admit that these hopes may be pessimistic.
Speaker 0: So far, globally, you are so far above the population and the consumption levels, which can be supported by this planet, that I know in one way or another it's going to come back down. So I don't hope to avoid that. I hope that it can occur in a a civil way. I I and I mean civil in a in a special way. Peaceful.
Peace doesn't mean, that everybody's happy, but it means that conflict isn't solved through violence, through through force, but rather in other ways. And so, that's what I hope for, that we can I mean, the planet can support something like a 1000000000 people, maybe 2,000,000,000 depending on how much liberty and how much material consumption you want to have? If you want more liberty and more consumption, you have to have fewer people. And, conversely, you can have more people. I mean, we could even have 8 or 9,000,000,000 probably if we have a very strong dictatorship, which is smart.
Unfortunately, you never have smart dictatorships. They're always stupid. So But if you had a smart dictatorship and a low standard of living, you can have a but but we want to have freedom and we want to have a high sense, so we're gonna have a 1000000000 people. And we're now at 7, so we have to get back down. I hope that this can be slow, relatively slow, and that it can be done in a way, which is relatively equal, you know, so that people share, the experience and then you don't have a few rich, you know, trying to force everybody else to to deal with it.
So those are my hopes. I mean, these are pretty pessimistic hopes, you know. But, that's
@timingnl - Timothy Robert
As many of us know, our 8 billion world population easily fits in the State of Texas with plenty of space & food for everyone.
We just should not all get EVโs & Solar Panels.
We can have unlimited real free clean energy once secret technology becomes publicly available. https://t.co/2q09NFeMj7
