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A series of posts discusses the cancel culture letter written by 100 scientists at Stanford University targeting Scot Atlas. The posts highlight the connections between some signatories of the letter and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, suggesting a potential bias. The influence of the Gates Foundation in philanthropy and vaccine development is also mentioned. The posts criticize the letter for its lack of citations and argue that it reflects a monopolistic ethos. The posts raise questions about conflicts of interest and collusion in the vaccine industry. The posts also criticize the letter's claims about masks, asymptomatic spread, and the lack of citations.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

University, Philanthropy and Cancel Culture. Back in September, 100 "independent" scientists at Stanford wrote a cancel culture letter to scream at Scot Atlas. Many of their points are now laughable. This wont age well. But let's see how they came to such woke outrage.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

As many of you know, Stanford attracts a lot of money but one of the more noticeable donations is from Bill and Melinda Gates and is known as the Stanford Computer Science center. Woke Outrage Letter link below. https://drive.google.com/file/d/130OXUjdnwHmfmbiEZWK9d354QHaRi0-r/view

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

In addition to donating a Computer Science building, they also gifted $50M to the school for Vaccine development. https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/gates-foundation-awards-stanford-50-million-for-vaccine-discovery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_Computer_Science_Building,_Stanford

Gates Foundation Awards Stanford $50 Million for Vaccine Discovery Gates Foundation Awards Stanford $50 Million for Vaccine Discovery. The grant will establish the Stanford Human Systems Immunology Center, which aims to create a better understanding of how the immune system can be harnessed to develop vaccines.... philanthropynewsdigest.org
Gates computer science building, stanford - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

In fact there are over 151 grants to Stanford listed on the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation website. https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants?q=Stanford#jump-nav-anchor0

Committed Grants | Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation This database includes grant commitments made by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and previous foundations of the Gates family (William H. Gates Foundation, Gates Library Foundation, and Gates Learning Foundation) from 1994 onward. gatesfoundation.org

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

So lets look at what Bill thought about Scot Atlas..

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

That is not a nice micro-aggression. Maybe "crackpot" is a better term for a MD in Neurology.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

So Bill doesn't Like Scot. Bill has lots of investments in Vaccines. How should neutralize Scot? Maybe some of the recipients of his grants will get together and write a woke outrage cancel culture letter to underscore the diversity of thought found at a University.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

Let's take a look at the signatories of this letter, shall we? First up Phillip Pizzo - Surprise.. He has Gates money.

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Upi Singh, MD You guessed it. Gates Money.

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Lucy Shapiro, PhD. Don't see any Gates Money. That is shocking. Impressive background but many industrial relationships worth noting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Shapiro

Lucy shapiro - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

Melissa Bondy, PhD. Quick glance, didnt see much https://med.stanford.edu/school/leadership/dean/updates/melissa-bondy.html

Page not found med.stanford.edu

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Bonnie Maldonadfo, MD Yep.

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Michele Barry, MD Bingo

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Charles Prober, MD Some associations and accolades with Gates but this one needs more digging. https://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/february/gates_cambridge-winners-021215.html

You’ve requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News news.stanford.edu

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

You see, some of their students get scholarships from Gates so there are indirect influences that require a bit more digging.

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Julie Parsonnet, MD Bingo ttps://news.stanford.edu/news/2008/november19/med-mcp-111908.html

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Steven Goodman, MD, MHS, PhD Involved in the Institute for Science and Policy which has Gates money. https://institute.dmns.org/perspectives/posts/covid-19-myths-misinformation-and-misunderstandings/

COVID-19 Myths, Misinformation, and Misunderstandings How do COVID-19 falsehoods take hold, and how can the media and the public be discerning about what we’re seeing? institute.dmns.org

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David Relman, MD https://fsi-live.s3.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/cv_relman_09192016.pdf CV has Gates Money

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Steve Luby, MD Yet again... Maybe we should just call it Gatesford university?

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https://ccas.creighton.edu/news/alumni-merit-award-winner-2016-stephen-luby Harry Greenberg, MD Has some cozy interactions with Gates but havent dug deep here as the trend is becoming pretty clear. https://sm.stanford.edu/archive/stanmed/2009spring/article5.html

Page not found | Creighton University creighton.edu
Insourced to India - 2009 SPRING - Stanford Medicine Magazine - Stanford University School of Medicine sm.stanford.edu

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

Ann Arvin, MD. Serves on NIAID Advisory panel with Gates members. Works with the WHO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arvin I've only covered the few names at the top of the letter but at the moment this seems pretty overt. Uncle Bill doesnt like anyone who challenges his vax goals.

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@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

So what happens? Everyone in the Gates cult gangs up on the independent thinkers to demand the university should contain only their thoughts. Monoversity would be a better name and this is a historical stain on the exceptional Stanford reputation.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

Surprised? We witnessed the Yellow Snow Memorandum resort to the same type of hypocritical behavior. They crucified Scot for his Hoover connections The monopolistic ethos of their philanthropist shines through in the behavior of their grant recipients.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

The John Snow Memorandum = Nerd Sweater Mafia These authors are infamous for attacking the Great Barrington Declaration as being some @AIER libertarian think tank. Let’s stoop to their level and see how they take a dose of their same immature associative fallacy medicine.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

I apologize for mis-spelling Scott’s name. (Two Ts). He left Twitter when the cancel culture purged Twitter in 2021. https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/12/scott-atlas-deletes-twitter-account/

Scott Atlas, controversial former Trump adviser, deletes Twitter account Atlas deleted his Twitter account, apparently in response to the site’s decision to remove accounts accounts after the Capitol riot. statnews.com

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

Just so we are clear about philanthropy. The Gates Foundation has over $430M in Pfizer/BioNTech stock. Nothing in Merck’s Ivermectin. NIH has patent royalties for Moderna. But none of this matters. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.axios.com/moderna-nih-coronavirus-vaccine-ownership-agreements-22051c42-2dee-4b19-938d-099afd71f6a0.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.com/amp/investing/2020/09/24/4-coronavirus-vaccine-stocks-the-bill-melinda-gate/

The NIH claims joint ownership of Moderna's coronavirus vaccine Taxpayers have a sizable stake in the vaccine Moderna is developing. axios.com
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@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

The holdings are not all BNTX. The 437M is spread across multiple vaccine bets but BioNTech is up 4X since last March and now valued over $100M trading at $107/share today. It was at $13 in Oct 2019.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

Remember all the outrage when Billionaire Pedophile Epstein was caught buying university influence? Wrecked a department at MIT. Not suggesting Bill is this evil but it’s a reminder that these conflicts are important to have on the table when his influence network is so large.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

This is where it gets interesting. Gates encourages AZ/Oxford to not take the free vax for all route. That can’t be good for Pfizer. Also set up CEPI to try to control vax pricing. Collusion through NGO/Philanthropy while stock portfolio banking on ROI? https://www.google.com/amp/s/khn.org/news/rather-than-give-away-its-covid-vaccine-oxford-makes-a-deal-with-drugmaker/amp/

They Pledged to Donate Rights to Their COVID Vaccine, Then Sold Them to Pharma - KFF Health News Advocates of cheap and widely available vaccines thought the pandemic might change business as usual. They were wrong. kffhealthnews.org

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

FAQs. What’s laughable? 1)It opens with Masks! DanMask Source control is bunk. Many comparative jurisdictions show no effect or worse outcomes. @ianmSC is a good source. @mamasaurusMeg and @KristenMeghan are professional OSHA PPE- they agree with Scott Cloth aerosols droplets.

@Kevin_McKernan - Kevin McKernan

2)Asymptomatic spread. Not a driver. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102 3)how many Stanford brainiacs does it take to use EndNote? More than 100? Not a single citation required to character assassinate a colleague? That’s why it’s a woke embarrassment. https://t.co/AtXVLTxWkc

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Saved - December 26, 2024 at 5:31 PM
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I discovered some alarming anomalies in the Pfizer documents related to clinical trial sites. Site 1231 in Argentina recruited an astonishing 4,501 patients in just three weeks, which seems highly unusual for a single investigator without a contract research organization. Meanwhile, site 4444 appears to be fabricated, with 1,275 patients supposedly recruited in one week, just before a critical FDA meeting. This raises serious questions about the integrity of the data and the recruitment process.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

HOLY CRAP! Two sites stand out from the #pfizerdocuments randomization log as major anomalies.... Site 1231 and Site 4444 You are not going to believe this..... @AaronSiriSG @fynn_fan @ClareCraigPath @profnfenton

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

What an interesting name... #Site4444 #pfizerdocuments #PfizerDump #pfake @AaronSiriSG @barnes_law @ClareCraigPath @sonia_elijah @JesslovesMJK @joshg99

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

The biggest recruiter by far is site 1231. In Argentina. Well of course, for a joint German-American drug where else? Site 1231 recruited 4501 patients. That is 10% of the patients AT ONE SITE. ALL 4501 patients were recruited in 3 weeks. WOW!

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

This is site 1231 from the @ICANdecide log Recognise the name? We'll come back to him in a sec....

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

The site is supposed to be the Military Central Hospital. That's interesting. It's also an interesting logo. Seems to have given David Martin ideas for his website logo, but probably just coincidence. I dunno...

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Anyway, it seems a bit odd that a principal investigator (who has to be a medical doctor) of a major international study is recruiting 4500 patients in 3 weeks at one site, without a CRO. And working 7 days a week. No gaps. Recruitment every day incl Sat/Sun @IamBrookJackson

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Weekend recruitment for a clinical trial would be odd. Staff are needed to fill out that many record forms (CRFs) and there are potential risks to the trial, so you need medical staff. It would be highly unusual. So who is he? Here is his trial CV

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Wait, hang on. This is Fernando Polack. The Fernando Polack who claims to be at Vanderbilt (USA) at the same time. Who also happens to make appearances for the FDA...

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Who also happens to work for The Infant Foundation http://infant.org.ar and also happens to be funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and the NIH He is literally the busiest doctor on the planet

Inicio | Fundación Infant infant.org.ar

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

But managed to find enough time to be the lead author on the #BNT162b2 paper (with all of Pfizer's scientists)

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Yet while doing all this, he managed to find time to (presumably single-handedly because no other authors are listed at that site) recruit 4500 patients in 3 weeks, with each patient requiring 250 PAGES of case report forms (CRFs). That is 1,125,000 pages of CRFs. In 3 weeks.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

But I'm sure that's totally above board until we get to the next totally above board feature of the fastest 44,000 patient study ever in history.... #site4444 WTF is site 4444? @IamBrookJackson

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

There were 270 clinical recruitment sites for the Pflzer vaccine study, numbered consecutively from 1001 to 1270. There are all listed here. https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/5.2-listing-of-clinical-sites-and-cvs-pages-1-41.pdf This is the last page. There is no site 1271. There is no other site with a number above 1270.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Well that's a bit of a problem because... There are a lot of entries in the randomisation log for #site4444. 1275 patients to be exact. About 3% of the total. And you know what? All 1275 "patients" were recruited in one week - from 22nd to 27th September 2020.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

And what is magical about the week of the 22nd Sept 2020? Well that just happens to be the last week that "recruitment" can take place for the data cut-off for the FDA meeting in December. There is just one problem though (well, two really)...

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

The site doesn't exist. It's totally and utterly fabricated. There is no principal investigator for site 4444 because it doesn't exist. So what happened at "site 4444"?

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

My guess: they needed enough numbers of "positive PCR tests" in the placebo group to show a difference between groups for that VRBPAC meeting on the 10th Dec, and they didn't have them. So site 4444 appeared and gave them their "perfect" result. Bravo.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

[All source documents can be found at https://www.icandecide.org/] @ICANdecide

Home - ICAN - Informed Consent Action Network icandecide.org

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Very related: https://davidhealy.org/fishy-business-in-the-rio-de-la-plata/

Fishy Business in the Rio de la Plata - Dr. David Healy From our South American Correspondent... The Argentine national flag is from a design by General Belgrano who died on June 20 1820 - 200 years almost to the day before Fernando Polack's strange plasma trial began. Fernando Pedro Polack MD in the spotlight Strange things have been going on in the murky world of clinical davidhealy.org
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Title: Unveiling Concerns and Controversies Surrounding Vaccine Programs: A Call for Transparency and Unbiased Evaluation Introduction: In the realm of vaccine programs, effective crisis communication and stakeholder alignment play a pivotal role in ensuring public trust and safety. Manuals provided by esteemed organizations such as the World Health Organization (WHO), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shed light on the importance of media monitoring and communication objectives. However, recent controversies surrounding the Human Papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine have raised significant concerns, including ongoing lawsuits and doubts about study protocols. This article aims to delve into these controversies, highlighting the flaws in the system and the need for transparency and unbiased evaluation. The HPV Vaccine Controversy: One tragic case that has garnered attention is the untimely death of Jessica Ericzon, a vibrant teenager who received three Gardasil shots. The Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System has collected a staggering 8,000 reports of problems following Gardasil administration, ranging from paralysis to seizures. Since Merck, the manufacturer, introduced the vaccine in 2006, 17 deaths have been reported, adding to the gravity of the situation. Disturbingly, cervical cancer rates have shown an unexpected increase among vaccinated groups, raising further concerns about the vaccine's efficacy. Deceptive Marketing and Misleading Research: The controversy surrounding the HPV vaccine is exacerbated by allegations of deceptive marketing campaigns by Merck and FDA approval based on misleading research. These allegations have led to a class-action lawsuit, as the damage caused by Gardasil is immeasurable. The prioritization of profits over lives by both Merck and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) has only intensified public outrage. Flaws in Trials and Regulatory Bias: Critics have pointed out several flaws in the HPV vaccine trials, further fueling the controversy. Trials lacked true placebos and excluded certain individuals, raising questions about the validity of the results. Additionally, conflicts of interest and the FDA's fast-tracking process have cast doubt on the regulatory system's integrity. The WHO itself acknowledges the existence of serious harms related to the vaccine, underscoring the need for a thorough and unbiased evaluation. A Call for Transparency and Unbiased Evaluation: In light of these controversies, it is imperative that the public receives transparent information and an unbiased evaluation of vaccine programs. Stakeholder alignment, media monitoring, and effective crisis communication, as emphasized in the WHO, FDA, and CDC manuals, should be implemented to restore public trust. The flaws in the system and regulatory bias must be addressed to ensure the safety and well-being of individuals receiving vaccines. The public deserves nothing less than complete transparency and an unbiased evaluation of the risks and benefits associated with vaccination. Conclusion: The controversies surrounding the HPV vaccine, including ongoing lawsuits, concerns about study protocols, and the prioritization of profits over lives, highlight the need for transparency and unbiased evaluation in vaccine programs. The flaws in trials, conflicts of interest, and the FDA's fast-tracking process further underscore the urgency for reform. By aligning stakeholders, monitoring media, and prioritizing effective crisis communication, we can restore public trust and ensure the safety of individuals receiving vaccines. The public deserves transparency and an unbiased evaluation to make informed decisions about their health.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Mega Thread: The WHO, FDA, CDC & Gardasil While poking around The WHO website I came across a document entitled: “Vaccine Crisis Communication Manual: A Step by Step Guidance for National Immunization Programs” https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/352029/WHO-EURO-2022-3471-43230-60590-eng.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y…

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It’s essentially a communications plan for when the shit hits the fan at varying levels and how all “stakeholders” will sing the same tune in unison. It’s a very instructive read in light of recent events you might have heard of. Here is how they describe the guide:

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“This document outlines a suggested structure and proposed contents of a Terms of Reference (TOR) for a national vaccine communication working group. Example texts for each of these elements are also provided for inspiration.”

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“Establishing a national vaccine communication working group allows you to build strong working and collaboration relations with your allies, strengthen routine communication for immunization and ensure well-coordinated and immediate response from all involved authorities…

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to any safety event. Use the document as a starting point for discussions and for inspiration when developing a TOR for your working group.” Here are some screenshots of the phases of response.

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These are the influencers they can harness to help with their propaganda campaign.

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Sounds about right.

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Also importantly they make sure to “Monitor what the media reports about the crisis. Good relations with key journalists and the media will help you in times of crisis.”

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They then go on to give example scenarios and how they should communicate to the public if something similar should occur.

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EXAMPLE “An infant has died of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) within 24 hours after having been immunized at a local health centre. Preliminary evidence indicates no causal link between the death and the vaccine.” Of course it does.

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Here is an example of their communication objectives and actions with an event like SIDS. As you can see, “restoring public trust” is of utmost importance. To me this sounds like a euphemism for “restoring stakeholder profits” to me.

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This next scenario I’m going to focus on what they classified as an “High Impact Crisis Event”. This scenario revolves around a “girl with a serious underlying condition has died after the HPV vaccine”

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Here are some quotes from the “Crisis Response > Design Communication Response” document that caught my attention. Specifically the claims being made about the HPV vaccine that should be used as talking points to communicate to the public.

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They use this as a cookie cutter template where any vaccine can be inserted and used as a talking point. Not biased or sociopathic at all. Again a young girl just died a day after the HPV vaccine. “Our deepest sympathy goes to those affected.” So very compassionate.

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“Vaccination saves lives and prevents suffering. The risk of severe side effects is extremely small. Some mild and more frequent side effects that may occur include a light rash and fever.”

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“The benefits of vaccination by far outweigh the minimal risk of a severe adverse event following immunization.” “For example: 1 in 1 000 000 individuals vaccinated may suffer from a serious allergic reaction (anaphylaxis).” Those are quite the odds.

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“The vaccine is prequalified, which means it has been approved by WHO. Before prequalification it was rigorously tested through clinical and field procedures. After prequalification, WHO regularly inspects the production facilities to ensure compliance with good manufacturing”

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“Scientific evidence shows that combined vaccines save time and money through fewer clinic visits,reduce discomfort for the child through fewer injections and increase the probability that the child will receive the complete set of vaccinations according to the national schedule”

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They forgot to mention that it also throttles the immune system, making it much more likely a SAE occurs but who cares right?

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“Despite high immunization coverage for [insert name of vaccine-preventable disease], (in this case cervical cancer) some children are still missing out on vaccination and thus remain at risk.”

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“Our country has taken all necessary steps to avoid a future outbreak of [insert name of vaccine-preventable disease] by initiating a [insert name of vaccine-preventable disease] (HPV) vaccination catch-up campaign.”

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“Multiple studies, including Phase III randomized trials, have proven the safety and effectiveness of the HPV vaccine to prevent high-risk HPV infections and subsequent carcinogenesis.”

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“These studies have not shown any relation between the development of this underlying condition and the HPV vaccine.”

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I found this quite peculiar as I am familiar with the controversy surrounding HPV vaccine since its release. In fact there is currently a class action lawsuit against the manufacturer Merck for side effects and misleading claims.

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So the fact that the WHO boldly proclaims that the trials used for its approval have proven it “safe and effective” is included in their communications plan prompted me to investigate those claims further.

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Gardasil Goes to Washington So what of these clinical trials? For a product like Gardasil to be rolled out in multiple countries all of the world and given to one of the youngest most vulnerable populations, adolescent and teenage girls, it had to be safe right?

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Here is what the CDC has to say about it. “HPV vaccination is recommended at ages 11–12 years. HPV vaccines can be given starting at age 9 years. All preteens need HPV vaccination, so they are protected from HPV infections that can cause cancer later in life.”

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•Teens and young adults through age 26 years who didn’t start or finish the HPV vaccine series also need HPV vaccination. CDC recommends that 11- to 12-year-olds receive two doses of HPV vaccine 6 to 12 months apart.

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•The first dose is routinely recommended at ages 11–12 years old. The vaccination can be started at age 9 years. •Only two doses are needed if the first dose was given before 15th birthday.

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Teens and young adults who start the series later, at ages 15 through 26 years, need three doses of HPV vaccine. •Children aged 9 through 14 years who have received two doses of HPV vaccine less than 5 months apart will need a third dose.

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•Three doses are also recommended for people aged 9 through 26 years who have weakened immune systems. “Vaccination is not recommended for everyone older than age 26 years.”

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“HPV vaccination works extremely well. HPV vaccine has the potential to prevent more than 90% of HPV-attributable cancers.” This sounds like a miracle vaccine according to the CDC. Safe and Effective. Definitely Safe and Effective. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/public/index.html

HPV Vaccination: What Everyone Should Know | CDCMinusSASstats What Everyone should know about the HPV vaccine. Who should and should not get the vaccine? What are the types of HPV vaccines? How well does the vaccine work, and what are the possible side effects? cdc.gov

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However, Gardasil’s insert states, “GARDASIL has not been evaluated for the potential to cause carcinogenicity or genotoxicity”. That means it’s safe and effective right?

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So surely the FDA followed all safety procedures and checks and balances. Well not exactly. The FDA approved the quadrivalent Gardasil 4 in 2006 after being fast-tracked for approval (the process only took six months). Gardasil 9 was approved in 2014.

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To give you an idea of the so-called dangers of HPV it takes 15 to 30 years for infection with HPV to lead to cancer. With such a low death rate and the decades it takes for cancer to develop,..

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it would take an impossibly large population of patients to reach any statistically significant result in a study to show whether Gardasil prevents cancer so let’s just get that straight. So why did FDA fast track it and sings it’s praises so vociferously in their press release?

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June 18, 2009 Press Announcement "Today is an important day for public health and for women's health, and for our continued fight against serious life-threatening diseases like cervical cancer," said Alex Azar, Deputy Secretary, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)

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"HHS is committed to advancing critical health measures such as the development of new and promising vaccines to protect and advance the health of all Americans." https://web.archive.org/web/20091019080918/https:/www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/2006/ucm108666.htm

FDA Licenses New Vaccine for Prevention of Cervical Cancer and Other Diseases in Females Caused by Human Papillomavirus The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today announced the approval of Gardasil, the first vaccine developed to prevent cervical cancer, precancerous genital lesions and genital warts due to human papillomavirus (HPV) types 6, 11, 16 and 18. web.archive.org

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So critical that they were willing forgo basic scientific study protocols in order to get it on the market. Now where have I heard that before?

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“According to Mary Holland, Kim Mack Rosenberg, and Eileen Iorio, co-authors of the book, The HPV Vaccine On Trial: Seeking Justice For a Generation Betrayed, “none of the participants in the [Gardasil] clinical trials received a true saline placebo,”

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Which means the clinical trials failed to measure the effects of Gardasil against a true control.

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Instead of receiving a placebo, clinical trial subjects were given aluminum-containing adjuvants and other chemical mixtures which masked adverse events and made Gardasil seem safer than it would have otherwise.

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So every expert tasked reviewing the study design, protocols, safety etc.. completely missed this glaring breach of sound protocols and decided to approve it. These are distinguished scientists, they would never allow something like this to happen.

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Yes, they would and did as unbelievable as it may seem. This instance wasn’t the first time either.

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The FDA’s Vaccine and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) evaluates the safety and effectiveness of vaccines for the agency and 23 years ago they were under fire for conflicts of interest around the approval for the rotavirus vaccine.

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A 2000 investigation of VRBPAC by the U.S. House of Representatives Reform Committee found, “The overwhelming majority of members, both voting members and consultants, have substantial ties to the pharmaceutical industry” https://www.nvic.org/law-policy-federal/dhhs-vaccine-coi

DHHS Vaccine COI | National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) Learn about the role of the federal government in vaccine recommendations, safety and injury compensation. nvic.org

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Here is an excerpt from the 2000 investigation on VRBPAC and ACIP committee’s approval of the Rotavirus vaccine that had to be taken off the market entitled: “Majority Staff Report Committee on Government Reform U.S. House of Representatives August 21, 2000”

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“A thorough review of the VRBPAC’s and ACIP’s consideration of the Rotavirus vaccine found a flawed process that led to a poor decision.”

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“Committee members with financial ties to the manufacturer of the vaccine, and producers of competing vaccines, were given waivers to participate in the decision-making process.”

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•Legitimate concerns about serious side effects and a lack of information were swept aside. •The CDC’s advisory committee (ACIP) recommended the “RotaShield” for universal use before it was even approved by the FDA.

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•The end result was that a product was placed on the market that had to be withdrawn within one year because it was injuring the children it was meant to protect.” The exact same thing that is happening today with mRNA injections.

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Once a vaccine gets through FDA VRBPAC Committee and is licensed it then goes to the CDCs ACIP committee who then recommends it be added to the schedule.

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A 2009 report from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) Office of Inspector General stated that the “CDC had a systematic lack of oversight of the ethics program” and that 97% of CDC committee members’ conflict disclosures had omissions.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Here is the report: https://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-04-07-00260.pdf

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“DHHS [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services] has a clear conflict of interest with respect to Gardasil at the institutional level since it shares directly in Gardasil’s profits.”

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“We’ve also seen now that this conflict of interest is echoed by (and possibly sustains) a pervasive pattern of regulatory bias in favor of Gardasil during multiple stages of the decision process.” -Mark Blaxill, “A License to Kill? Part 3: Who Guards Gardasil’s Guardians?”

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

About Those HPV Trials The WHO referenced in their Crisis Document. On July 27, 2018, the BMJ Evidence-Based Medicine published a critique of an earlier review of the HPV vaccine clinical trials. https://ebm.bmj.com/content/ebmed/early/2018/07/27/bmjebm-2018-111012.full.pdf

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

They made several observations indicating bias in how the trials were conducted. They reported:

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

•Regarding the reporting of clinical trial results, one third of the clinical studies were not published. In a separate 2018 study, the same authors found that nearly a third (31%) of the Gardasil and Gardasil 9 studies were not published.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

This raises the question of publishing bias, the common practice of publishing only positive results and leaving negative outcomes unmentioned. •None of the 26 HPV vaccine clinical trials included in the review used a true inactive placebo.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

-The so-called placebos contained aluminum-containing adjuvants and other ingredients, biasing or negating any effort to determine the actual increased risk of adverse events caused by the vaccine, compared to a true inactive placebo.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

•Many women with a history of immunological or nervous system disorders were excluded from the trials. The authors mention a 2017 World Health Organization (WHO) study that found serious harms related to postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS).

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Also complex regional pain syndrome (CRPS) following HPV vaccination. They note that, as of May 2018, a WHO database contained 526 cases of POTS and 168 cases of CRPS related to HPV vaccination

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

The WHO, FDA & CDC Knew and people died. https://nypost.com/2008/07/20/my-girl-died-as-guinea-pig-for-gardasil/

MY GIRL DIED AS ‘GUINEA PIG’ FOR GARDASIL She loved SpaghettiO’s, pepperoni, lilies, listening to her iPod and making her pals laugh. In her senior yearbook, she wrote, “The best things... nypost.com

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“Jessica Ericzon, 17, was "an all-American teenager," as described by one of her upstate LaFargeville teachers.  Last February, she was working on her softball pitches, getting ready for a class trip to Universal Studios in Florida and hitting the slopes to snowboard”

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“Then one day, the blond, blue-eyed honors student collapsed dead in her bathroom.  It started with a pain in the back of her head. On the advice of her family doctor, Jessie had taken a series of three Gardasil shots.”

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“Livingstone reported Jessie’s death to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System”

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“Run by the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, it has collected 8,000 reports of problems after Gardasil shots, including paralysis, seizures and miscarriages.“Seventeen other deaths following the vaccine have been reported since Merck introduced it in 2006”

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“Officials have confirmed 11 of the reported deaths so far, said CDC spokesman Curtis Allen.” They have found “no pattern or connection” to Gardasil in eight deaths and are still reviewing three, he said.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Does this story sound familiar to anything going on today? This is standard operating procedure for these organizations and yet we still have 80% of the population who trust these faceless “experts” with their own lives and the lives of their families.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Global Fallout Prior to Gardasils forced deployment globally, in the countries that used smear screening for cancer, the average annual rate of decline was 2.5% between 1989 and 2000 and 1% between 2000 and 2007, resulting in a total decrease of nearly 30% across 1989-2007.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

This is what Merck would call a “market share” and pharmaceutical companies aren’t keen on sharing anything.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Since vaccination, in all the countries implemented with a large vaccination program, there is a reversal of the trend, with a significant increase in the frequency of invasive cancers in the most vaccinated groups.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

In the UK Vaccination promoters expected cervical cancer rates to decrease in women aged 20 to 24 . However, in 2016, national statistics showed a sharp and significant increase in the rate of cervical cancer in this age group. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29247658/

Is the recent increase in cervical cancer in women aged 20-24years in England a cause for concern? - PubMed The rates of cervical cancer (CxCa) in England among women aged 20-24yrs increased from 2.7 in 2012 to 4.6 per 100,000 in 2014 (p=0.0006). There was concern that the sudden increase was linked to the withdrawal of cervical screening in women aged 20-24 (a policy that affected women born since 1984). … pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Women between 20 and 25 years old who were vaccinated between the ages 14 and 18 which was more than 85% of that demographic at the time, have seen their cancer risk increase by 70% in 2 years (from 2.7 in 2012 to 4.6 per 100,000 in 2014.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Those aged 25 to 30, aged between 18 and 23 at the time of the vaccination campaign have seen their cancer risk increase by 100% between 2007 and 2015 from 11 in 100,000 to 22 in 100,000.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Similar increases in cancer were found in younger cohorts post vaccination campaigns in Sweden, Norway and the United States.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

When looking at the trials, Merck’s own preliminary studies predicted that Gardasil would kill and injure far more Americans than the HPV Virus, prior to the introduction of the vaccine.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

The average death rate in young women in the U.S. general population is 4.37 per 10,000 See Brady E. Hamilton et al., “Births: Provisional Data for 2016,” Vital Statistics Rapid Release, Report No. 002, June 2017. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/report002.pdf

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

The Gardasil pooled group had a death rate of 8.5 per 10,000 or almost double the background rate in the U.S.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

When Merck added in death from belated clinical trials, the death rate jumped to 13.3 per 10,000 (21 deaths out of 15,706). Now let go back to one more slide from the World Health Organizations Crisis Response Document.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Two key messages were chosen to guide communication goals: “There is a safe & effective vaccine to prevent cervical cancer” and “Every day on woman gets diagnosed with cervical cancer in country [B].” Truly unbelievable isn’t it?

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Given that one man with an internet connection, no clinical background, and only a bachelors degree was able to learn these facts about Gardasil but the entirety of the WHO and its infinite resources couldn’t should deeply disturb us all.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Is this a case of complete dereliction of duty or something worse? Either way, how they can make statements like that in good conscience is a direct reflection of their lack of one.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Knowing what you now know about Gardasil watch this brief commercial Merck put out for it and try not to put your fist through the screen in disgust. https://youtu.be/sLB0MaY7luE

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Just this month a judge ruled that a class action lawsuit will be moving forward and will be advancing towards bellwether trials. The lawsuit states:

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“Merck obtained FDA approval for Gardasil back in 2006 based on deceptive research and clinical trials which misrepresented the efficacy of the vaccine while concealing its safety risks and side effects.“

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“Merck then launched an aggressive and highly misleading marketing campaign to include millions of parents vaccinating their pre-teen daughters with Gardasil.” https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/amp/gardasil-hpv-vaccine-lawsuit.html

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Just like they did with Vioxx https://www.nature.com/articles/450324b

Merck settles Vioxx lawsuits for $4.85 billion - Nature But drug firm maintains it was not at fault over arthritis drug. nature.com

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

It’s too bad the damage has been done and any settlement will be a drop in the bucket of the profits both Merck and the NIH reaped off of the death and suffering of young women worldwide. For them it’s seems like it’s just the cost of doing business.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

It is estimated that Vioxx killed 40,000 people in the United States alone. To give you a comparison, its estimated that 58,000 American died in the Vietnam war and Merck didn’t even fire one shot. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/vioxx-took-deadly-toll-study/article1113848/

Vioxx took deadly toll: study The Globe and Mail offers the most authoritative news in Canada, featuring national and international news theglobeandmail.com

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Unless you count their marketing campaign, knowingly targeting Americans with false advertising as a shot. Merck Vioxx 2002 Commercial https://youtu.be/Ngz0sWTYqSw

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

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I find it intriguing how the Epstein-linked New York Presbyterian Hospital and IQVIA appear consistently in discussions about questionable COVID studies. It seems there's a web of connections involving various institutions and individuals that raises serious concerns about data integrity. I question the credibility of studies, especially those linked to IQVIA and authors like Jennifer Lane, who lack substantial prior work. The parallels to the Surgisphere scandal are alarming. I invite transparency and access to data to verify these claims.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Er.... @FeeRedfern @carl_jurassic why does the Epstein-linked @nyphospital turn up everywhere we look? https://www.ohdsi.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/OHDSI-OurJourney-2022.pdf

Page not found – OHDSI ohdsi.org

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

WHOA! And every where we look... under every stone... we find @IQVIA_global The "data collaborator" for every COVID study you will never see the data for. @MartinNeil9

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

@IQVIA_global @MartinNeil9 BINGO. Holy crap. This study was published in 2020 and was basically the third in the #Lancetgate series. Completely unverifiable and no possibility of being real data. Where did the data come from? IQVIA. Jennifer Lane (an unknown). Oxford. OHDSI...

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

@nyphospital (Jeffrey Epstein) Oxford. Astrazeneca. Columbia Irving. Erasmus (Marion Koopmans) Vanderbilt David Geffen Bayer Chinese Academy (CCP) No such thing as a "conspiracy theory" when the conspiracy is this big. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32864627/ @CharlesRixey @Daoyu15

Risk of hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis: a multinational, retrospective study - PubMed National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) Oxford Biomedical Research Centre, NIHR Senior Research Fellowship programme, US National Institutes of Health, US Department of Veterans Affairs, Janssen Research and Development, IQVIA, Korea Health Industry Development Institute through the Ministry o … pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

You literally cannot make this stuff up. They didn't know this when they chose "88" as their theme? Well, maybe symbolism will be their downfall.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Hades? Give me a break. @1979pop

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

And who the hell is this guy? Absolutely nothing to see here.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

I'm going to try and spell this out. @OHDSI are a shell corporation for #BigPharma, recruiting geeks with no clinical experience to push synthetic data sets generated by @IQVIA_global to create papers that convince the world to buy their products. That's it. #COVIDin1tweet

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

@OHDSI @IQVIA_global And you know what? If @OHDSI or @IQVIA_global don't like what I've just revealed, they can give me access to Jennifer Lane's full dataset and I will show you whether it's real. You know why?.... @boriquagato @ndorms @jennifercelane

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

@OHDSI @IQVIA_global @boriquagato @ndorms @jennifercelane ...because #hydroxychloroquine is one of the safest drugs on earth and there is ZERO chance that it is associated with a 65% increased risk of cardiac mortality as claimed by @jennifercelane This paper is literally #surgisphere 3. You know how I know?...

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

@OHDSI @IQVIA_global @boriquagato @ndorms @jennifercelane Because I've been in this business longer than Jenny from the block and she had never written a first author paper of any significance before IQVIA ghost wrote this one for her. Now she's able to analyse a 1m patient study, and lead a consortium? Nope. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=lane%2C%20jce&filter=years.2012-2020

lane, jce - Search Results - PubMed lane, jce - Search Results - PubMed pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

@OHDSI @IQVIA_global @boriquagato @ndorms @jennifercelane And this is exactly how we busted #surgisphere. It's the weekend. Grab a cup of tea, coffee or glass of wine and sit down to one of the best analyses of the surgisphere scandal via @chrismartenson. Enjoy your weekend. Jenny might be busy. https://youtu.be/IUD_wvkNhnk

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

And... if you really don't believe me about the New York Presbyterian hospital and Jeffrey Epstein... Here you are. Enjoy your weekend. https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/william-farrington-and-the-pedophile

William Farrington and the Pedophile Why did William Farrington cover up for Jeffrey Epstein, the world's most famous child trafficker? A forensic review of "those" pictures. arkmedic.info

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Oops apologies to @SalliePermar for leaving her out!

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

And here is your supervising author.

@Jikkyleaks - Jikkyleaks 🐭

Brigham and Women's of #surgisphere fame? Emulation of data from existing databases, like the #surgisphere papers? Erasmus university.. And you were the supervisor for Patrick Ryan's ghost written #EMRgate paper. Are you the kingpin, Dani? https://www.brighamandwomens.org/about-bwh/newsroom/press-releases-detail?id=3592

BWH Press Release - Brigham and Women's Hospital View recent and archived press releases from Brigham and Women’s Hospital. brighamandwomens.org
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In this comprehensive article, we delve into various threads and case studies surrounding the pandemic. We explore the censorship on Twitter, the concept of healthy user bias, the impact of vaccinations on nations, the presence of Scientology, the efficacy illusion, and more. Join us as we uncover intriguing details and shed light on different aspects of the #Plandemonium. Stay tuned for updates!

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

It is time to begin documenting a #Plandemonium #GameOfThreads.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

2. First, I'll point back to my old thread of threads, so much of which is still censored on Twitter, sigh.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

1. This is a thread compiling the most interesting threads of the 2020 pandemic. If you've seen a thread or even a single epic tweet that you think belongs, share it and I'll consider adding it.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

3. Next, Big Data helps us with the #HealthyUserBias thread.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

1. This thread will reveal the details of how the #HealthyUserBias demonstrates that the #COVID19vaccines (at least used in the U.S.) have zero efficacy. This will take a few days to complete...follow me on this one...make Big Data proud.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

4. Mostly vaccinated nations were never mostly doing better.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

This thread is a list of nations that have vaccinated at least 70% of their populations, and how they're doing on a cases/deaths per day bases before and after during the #COVID19 #pandemic.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

5. And now for something completely different: #Scientology during the #pandemic.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

1. It is time to explore #Scientology and its strange presence everywhere during the #Plandemonium. First, let us examine the unoriginality of Scientology among occult and UFO cults and religions. https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/the-unoriginal-mythology-of-scientology

The Unoriginal Mythology of Scientology - Is This Plandemonium? Cults, Mind Control, and Plandemonium, Part 1 roundingtheearth.substack.com

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

6. A thread for #TheEfficacyIllusion.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

1. This thread demonstrates one of the chief arguments of #TheEfficacyIllusion. I begin with the great work by @profnfenton and his colleagues, then add a dash of something cooked up by Miracle Max, who knows a thing or two about subdivided categories... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbE8E1ez97M

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

7. The before and after thread of nations that never had epidemics until after vaccines were introduced.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

Nothing to see here, move along. Vietnam Before C19Vax: 35 deaths Since C19Vax: 21381 deaths

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

8. The beagles that stare purveyors of #plandemonium in the eyes.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

Please don't let Fauci near us.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

9. People who died during the #plandemonium.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

1. This is a thread about who died during the #plandemonium.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

10. A #Mindwar thread featuring #5GW, #Scientology, #Bitcoiners, and much more. https://x.com/EduEngineer/status/1713934887365882262?s=20

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

If you didn't know 5GW was meant to distract you from learning about #mindwar, you should know it now.

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

11. Do you buy the Steve Kirsch Traveling Road Show? https://x.com/EduEngineer/status/1711685815057711210?s=20

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

Why didn't David Boulware list his work with Steve Kirsch in the conflict of interest disclosure in the 2022 #Fluvoxamine study? Is this like his leaving out #Gilead work in his #hydroxychloroquine study...funded by Steve Kirsch?

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

12. Malone and Kirsch raise their [own] banners to announce what Malone glossed over Maria Gutschi already pointed out in Brussels in May, which Sasha Latypova suggested was likely the case in 2021. #HeroBall https://x.com/EduEngineer/status/1715857609545187382?s=20

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

This is how the script would read if the mRNA technology were to be saved in the end to be used another time. Do you buy it?

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

13. National Case Studies of the #Plandemonium. https://x.com/EduEngineer/status/1505815025814052876?s=20

@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

It's time to summarize the #NationalPandemicCaseStudies at #RoundingTheEarth The #CampfireWiki is documenting: https://www.campfire.wiki/doku.php?id=rounding_the_earth:pandemic_national_case_studies

Pandemic National Case Studies - Campfire Wiki campfire.wiki
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From 2009 to 2014, Sudhakar Agnihothram worked closely with Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill, conducting significant research on SARS. Sudhakar coauthored crucial papers on chimeric Coronavirus Spike Proteins and SARS-like clusters. He also coauthored the Crystal Structure of RBD from MERS and holds a patent for SARS-CoV spike proteins. Since 2016, Sudhakar has been a Principal Regulatory Project Manager at the FDA, overseeing EUA and vaccine approvals, including COVID-19 vaccines. He was involved in reviewing safety and efficacy incidents and approved vaccines for adolescents. It's concerning that Sudhakar has a patent and research ties with Baric, who is suspected of creating COVID-19.

@dezzie_rezzie - Destiny Rezendes

1🧵 From the years 2009-2014 a man named Sudhakar Agnihothram was a post doctoral assistant at UNC Chapel HIll under Ralph Baric. He continued research w/ Baric up til 2016 & he was a prominent name in almost all of the infamous SARS research Baric conducted.

@dezzie_rezzie - Destiny Rezendes

2🧵Among the most important papers he co-authored was the, Methods & Compositions for chimeric Coronavirus Spike Proteins [2015] & SARS like WIV-1 CoV Poised for Human Emergence [2016] as well as the SARS like cluster Circulating ...[2015]

@dezzie_rezzie - Destiny Rezendes

3🧵Sudhakar is also co-author w/ Baric on the "Crystal Structure of RBD from newly emerged MERS..[2013] and co-owner of the patent for the SARS CoV spike proteins [2015/18]. No big deal, right? I thought so until now. Sudhakar's LinkedIn reveals his career since working w/Baric

@dezzie_rezzie - Destiny Rezendes

4🧵Sudhakar since 2016 has worked at the FDA in the office of Vaccine Research and Review as a Principal Regulatory Project Manager, in charge of #EUA and Vaccine approvals, namely, the C19 EUA vaccines. His name is personally listed as the deciding regulator on many of the jabs

@dezzie_rezzie - Destiny Rezendes

5🧵Sudhakar was also a contributor to the VRBPAC committee of safety & efficacy, reviewing incidents like myocarditis in young adults, & cGMP of certain batches of vaccines. He approved the jab for adolescents for both Moderna and Pfizer. @P_McCulloughMD

@dezzie_rezzie - Destiny Rezendes

6🧵 The alarm bells started blaring when I recalled the 2019 Material Transfer Agreement signed between #Moderna and #RalphBaric concerning the vaccine technology that would later go into the C19 vaccines. Knowing the Spike protein is the basis for their vaccine.

@dezzie_rezzie - Destiny Rezendes

7🧵This is a massively ignored conflict of interest. The same man determining the EUA authorizations for C19 vaccines has a patent with the guy suspected of creating C19, for chimeric SARS, spike proteins, & co-authored the SAME research sited as proof that C19 was lab made.⚠️

@dezzie_rezzie - Destiny Rezendes

8🧾Receipts: https://www.fda.gov/media/150136/download https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=976a058d3ffccce982af45dccd0eb9388f9d0834 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6935295-NIH-Moderna-Confidential-Agreements https://www.linkedin.com/in/sudhakar-agnihothram-8195309/ https://www.fda.gov/media/153088/download https://patents.justia.com/inventor/sudhakar-agnihothram https://www.fda.gov/media/159611/download

NIH-Moderna Confidential Agreements documentcloud.org
Sudhakar Agnihothram | LinkedIn A broadly trained virologist with extensive experience in FDA regulation of vaccines, diagnostics, and drugs for infectious diseases. Specialty in regulating medical countermeasures against pathogens of bioterrorism and emerging infectious disease concern. Expert in emergency use authorizations (EUAs), pandemic preparedness and response. Playing a pivotal role as an FDA regulator in COVID-19 pandemic preparedness and response, a concerted approach integrating stakeholders from US government, industrial partners, academia, and national regulatory authorities.

Core training prior to joining FDA was focused on preclinical evaluation of vaccines, antibody therapeutics and small molecule inhibitors targeting emerging viral pathogens (including select agents) of biodefense and public health concern. Contributed to developing small animal models of virus-induced acute lung injury and identifying viral and host targets of disease using systems biology-based approaches. Two years of business development experience evaluating UNC technologies across diverse area of biomedical sciences. A flexible team player with good interpersonal, collaboration, leadership, supervisory, communication and management skills, and proven ability to accelerate product development from discovery to licensed use.

I am a firm believer in a stringent collaborative regulatory approach coalescing key players from diverse sectors that fosters advanced manufacturing technologies, innovative clinical trial designs and real-world evidence-based approaches to solve major public health problems.

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@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

“The Godfather of Vaccines” Dr. Stanley Plotkin admits under oath he got paid from all of the big Pharma companies while consulting for an “Independent Report” on whether or not Vaccines cause autism. For some extremely odd reason he didn’t feel the need to disclose it in the report.

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In 2011 the IOM issued a vaccine-safety report, 'Adverse Effects of Evidence of Causality,' examining 158 serious injuries after vaccination. The speaker notes they were consulting for Sanofi, Merck, GSK, and others, not disclosed in the report. Tdap is on the childhood schedule and is given to pregnant women. On autism, the IOM concluded, 'The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid, tetanus toxoid, or acellular pertussis containing vaccine and autism.' The evidence doesn't exist to show whether DTaP or Tdap do or do not cause autism. 'There is not evidence to, say a million different things. We have no suspicions, at least I don't, that, autism is caused by DTaP.' 'absence of evidence is no proof whatsoever.' He could tell parents that DTaP, Tdap does not cause autism, and, 'I'm also willing to tell them it doesn't cause leprosy.'
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Speaker 0: 02/2011, the IOM then issued another report on vaccine safety, and this time it looked at a hundred and fifty eight of the most commonly claimed serious injuries after vaccination. Right? Speaker 1: Yeah. Mhmm. Yes. K. Speaker 0: The title of that report is Adverse Effects of Evidence of Causality. Did you provide information to the IOM committee conducting this review? Speaker 1: Recall specifically whether I did or not. A lot of people ask for my opinions. When asked, I give my opinions. Speaker 0: A: Do you see a section entitled Reviewers? Speaker 1: Oh, yes. I'm on the list. Speaker 0: The purpose of this independent review is to provide candid and critical comments that will assist the institutions in making its published report as sound as possible and to ensure that the report meets institutional standards for objectivity, evidence, and responsiveness to the study charge. It doesn't disclose that at that time you were working for all four of the major vaccine makers, correct? In 2011, were you receiving compensation and remuneration from Sanofi? Speaker 1: I was yes, as I've said before. I was consulting for Sanofi as well as others. Speaker 0: Were you consulting for Merck? Speaker 1: A: Yes, probably at that time. Speaker 0: And GSK? Yes. And as well as a whole host of other for profit companies seeking to develop vaccines, correct? Speaker 1: A: Yes. Speaker 0: I'm just saying that's not mentioned here, correct? Speaker 1: No. Speaker 0: Tdap is one of the vaccines on the childhood schedule, right? Yes. It's administered to babies during the first year of life? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: We already talked about this at two, four, and six months, right? Yes. Now as for Tdap, that's given to pregnant women, correct? Yes. Q: What was the IOM's conclusion in 2011 about whether these vaccines can cause autism? Speaker 1: I'd have to look that up, but feel confident that they do not cause autism. Speaker 0: Q: You feel confident that that's what the IOM concluded? Speaker 1: I don't remember what the IOM concluded, but I don't believe there's any evidence that that's the case. Speaker 0: Can you read the causality conclusion with regard to whether DTaP and Tdap cause autism? Speaker 1: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid, tetanus toxoid, or acellular pertussis containing vaccine and autism. Speaker 0: The evidence doesn't exist to show whether DTaP or Tdap do or do not cause autism, correct? Speaker 1: Yes. Evidence not being available Speaker 0: Yes. Speaker 1: Does not allow you to conclude that the phenomena that there is a causal relationship. Speaker 0: But it does allow you to conclude that the evidence doesn't exist to say that DTaP and Tdap do not cause autism. Speaker 1: There is not evidence to, say a million different things. We have no suspicions, at least I don't, that, autism is caused by DTaP. Speaker 0: You may not have that suspicion but it is one of the most commonly reported adverse events which is why it was reviewed in this IOM report. Can you make the statement that vaccines do not cause autism if you don't know whether DTaP or Tdap cause autism? Speaker 1: I can say as a physician that no, they do not cause autism. You know, I can't be sure that DTaP doesn't cause leprosy. That doesn't mean that that stops me from using DTaP vaccine. Are people claiming that DTaP has caused leprosy? Speaker 0: Are you aware of any such complaints? Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any such complaints but I wouldn't be surprised to see it on the web one of these days. Speaker 0: Okay. But people have made enough complaints about DTaP, Tdap causing autism that the Institute of Medicine at the Commission of HHS thought it was serious enough to do a scientific review, correct? Speaker 1: Yes. I mean there are a million things on web including all kinds of diet advice based on ridiculous information. So why should I adopt that? Speaker 0: Are you saying that the IOM was engaging in a ridiculous review here? The only thing I've asked you is whether or not one can assert that vaccines do not cause autism, Speaker 1: Counselor, but they let's be let's be real. You're asking me these questions because you want me to legitimize a view that vaccines cause autism, and I will not do that because absence of evidence is no proof whatsoever. You're okay with telling the parent that DTaP, Tdap does not cause autism even though Speaker 0: the science isn't there yet to support that claim? Speaker 1: Absolutely. I'm also willing to tell them it doesn't cause leprosy. Speaker 0: Have you ever used orphans to study
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Title: Uncovering the Truth about Childhood Vaccinations In this eye-opening article, we expose the hidden realities surrounding childhood vaccinations. From the lack of informed consent to the placebo myth, we delve into the controversies and concerns that have fueled vaccine skepticism. We explore the alarming rise in autoimmune diseases and autism rates, questioning the safety and efficacy of vaccines. We shed light on the ignored VAERS reports and highlight testimonies from experts who challenge the mainstream narrative. Join us in unraveling the complexities of the vaccine industry and advocating for truly informed consent.

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Uninformed Consent A thread exposing the lies that your doctor, government and the media told you. Vaccine uptake is at an all time low. The government and the industry they collude with would have you think that it is because of “anti-science“ ignorance. Just millions of buck tooth, mouth breathers who can barely read and what they do read is nothing but dangerous “misinformation”. It couldn’t possibly be their fault. You know, the fact that virtually every autoimmune disease is skyrocketing and the rate of autism has consistently grown with the amount of vaccines administered to kids. It couldn’t possibly be the fact that they are still trying to push an experimental novel technology on the public, including being so brazen as to include it on the childhood schedule. It couldn’t possibly be the hundreds of thousands of debilitating injuries people have suffered with virtually zero recourse for compensation or the fact that they are either ignored, discounted or ridiculed for believing their injuries stem from the most likely variable introduced into their lives. It couldn’t possibly be the fact that people all over the world have watched loved ones including their own children go to sleep never to wake up again. Or they drop to the ground in the prime of their lives while playing a sport they love. The truth of the matter is that the tide of public consciousness is turning and everyday more and more people are realizing the uncomfortable truth. In no small part because of the people featured in this incredibly informative video. The Highwire [@HighWireTalk] aired this yesterday. It features a talk between Del Bigtree [@delbigtree] and Aaron Siri [@AaronSiriSG] where they show various depositions and testimonies of individuals over the years along with adding valuable context and commentary. This is something you can show to “true believers” in your lives with the hope that it may disrupt their programming. Expect a lot of cognitive dissonance to ensue because in 40 minutes they eviscerate various commonly held beliefs in relation to the childhood injections recommended by the CDC and most doctors. I am going to include some more clips as well as some other threads I’ve made to really drive home the point. The point being is that almost everything you think you know about childhood vaccinations is either completely misrepresented or outright lies. Please share this extremely important information and help create some truly informed consent. Funny thing about having real informed consent, it turns out people who have it, usually decide not to consent.

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The speaker discusses the issue of liability protection for vaccine manufacturers and the lack of safety testing for vaccines. They explain that in 1986, liability was taken away from manufacturers, leading to an increase in the number of vaccines given to children. They argue that vaccines should be tested for safety like any other pharmaceutical product, but this is not happening due to the lack of liability. The speaker also addresses the claim that vaccines do not cause injury, particularly autism, and highlights the lack of studies supporting this claim. They conclude by discussing the use of aborted fetal tissue in vaccine development and the objections raised by religious groups.
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Speaker 0: What about all of the rest of them? One of the issues you have when you're trying to look at vaccines as a journalist and investigate it is you've got this liability protection. In 1986, they took away all liability from manufacturers. Basically, the pharmaceutical industry blackmailed Ronald Reagan, said, We are losing so much money from death and injury cases in courtrooms, we cannot make a profit in our vaccine program, so either you protect us from liability or we're gonna stop making them. And so you can't sue the manufacturer. It says right here, no person may bring a civil action against the vaccine administrator or manufacturer for damages arising from a vaccine related injury or death. Total and complete protection. And I say that to friends and they say, that's amazing. Doesn't that mean right there they must be admitting that there's injury? Of course they are. There's no Such thing as a pharmaceutical product that doesn't injure somebody. There's a reason why you have multiple versions of drugs, because if one is giving you side effects, Try another one. Vaccines are no different, they have all the same types of elements. I wanted to get into this. And so we wanted to, investigate it. Well, what happens, What happens when you take a product, one of the only ones in America, made by arguably one of the most, you know, corrupted Industries, when you look at pharma, who's paid out more money for death than injury? 1,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 of dollars by Merck and Sanofi Aventis and Pfizer for having lied about the safety of their products. But they have 1 group of products that they cannot be sued for. Well, that created a gold rush and ultimately what happened to this is in 1986, there's about 3 vaccines given in multiple doses. So for all of you out there that are saying, I'm just vaccinating My kids the same way I was vaccinated. No, you're not. You got maybe 10 vaccines by the time you were 18 years old. When we took liability away in 1986, this is what happened to our vaccine programme. Suddenly it explodes. 72 Your kids are getting or your grandkids are getting by the time they're 18. And none of these need to be tested for safety. Why? Why would you? Let's be honest. Why would you spend money testing a product for safety if you cannot be sued if it kills or injures anybody? You wouldn't do it. Why waste the money? It ends up being the perfect product. This is a product that we don't have to test for safety and we don't even have to advertise it because the government is going to force it on every child in America. This is why this product became one of the number one biggest sellers, biggest gold rush money making parts of the industry we now look at as the giant big pharma. So I went to Iran and said, look, they have total liability protection. What do we do? And we started discussing, What if we sue the government? Since the government's taking on the liability, they're saying that manufacturers will handle this, so now you sue the government. Imagine this, When you're injured by a vaccine, you have to sue health and human services. In fact, the head of health and human services is who you're naming as the defendant. So now the government's gonna use Department of Justice lawyers against you. Against you and tell you you're crazy, You're wrong, that injury didn't happen, you have to prove that it happened. That's how the court system works. And who was supposed to do the safety trials that you need to use in court so that you can prove this injury is caused by the vaccine. Health and Human Services. The same group you are suing is the one that is supposed to be doing the safety trials. This is literally like a, a murder case where your murderer is the one doing all of your forensics. And that's how the system has been designed. So I brought in Aaron Sridh to look at this and say, how do we handle this in law? And so when you start looking at it, what really sort of jumped out at you when we think about safety and how products are made? Speaker 1: Well, one thing that really jumped out at me is that of all the products on the market, all the products on the market That you can't sue the manufacturer for injuries for effectively. It's not planes. It's not drugs. It's not all kinds of dangerous things we know are out there. It's a product injected into babies that we say That the health authorities say are safe. Of all the products, that's the one product that effectively manufacture immunity for liability. That really struck me. That really struck me. Every other product is able to survive in the market, cars and so forth, They make them better, but for this product in 1986, manufacturers given immunity to liability, presumably They had a real issue in terms of being able to make them safer. And so what's the effect, you know, in terms of safety? To answer your question more directly, Del, Yeah. As you know, we we, you know, we decided we're gonna look at what's the impact on the clinical trials, pre licensure, And what's the impact after licensure? So in terms of the clinical trials, I think that this chart Might help bring home the impact that in taking away liability from manufacturers of vaccines has had on how the clinical trials relied upon to license those products were conducted. If you look up on your screen, you're gonna see a chart And in that chart according these are putting COVID vaccine aside, my understanding this is a a site that explains these are the 5 top Selling drugs, pharmaceutical products that Pfizer has in all time. Look at that list. 4 of those are drugs. One of them is a vaccine. Take a good look. Which one looks a little different than the rest. Speaker 0: This is like that Sesame Street game. Yeah. Right? One of these drugs is not like the other. Speaker 1: You're right. Except this one can have Leaf of consequences. And if you look, Enbrel, Eliquis, Lyrica, and Lipitor, safety review periods during their clinical trials Into the years, PCV 13, PRODOT 13, that's the only vaccine on the list. Look at the safety review period, And look at the control. Was it a placebo control? No. This is a list Of the vaccines administered to babies 3 times each by the time they're 6 months old. Speaker 0: I I mean, think about this. I want you to think about the placebo controlled trial. This is something that's really starting to make in the news and they're saying, we have done these placebo controlled trials.' They haven't. And why is it important? When you're testing a drug, 1 group gets this testing drug, the brand new drug, another group gets what's a placebo, something that has no effect on the human body, but we don't know who got what. It's double blind, they both get it. In the case of the drugs, 6 years, 7 years, 5 years, at least 2 years, We track both groups all the way through and ask obvious questions. Who had more diabetes or autoimmune issues or cancers or Mutagenic effects. And, obviously, at the end of it you unblind it, the scientists find out who was who, because they shouldn't be manipulating it And then you see: was the safety profile the same? Did the group that got the saline injection or got the sugar pill have the same amount of health issues as the ones that got the product. So in the vaccines, there are no placebos. This is the only way to prove causation. When they say to you: Well, we've never proved causation of this injury, whether it's multiple sclerosis in vaccines or autism in vaccines. We don't have any evidence, there's no causal relationship because you never did the trial, which would be the only way to prove causation, which is a placebo based trial. You skipped it. And this is what they're doing on all these vaccines. Speaker 1: And Pfizer wants to know the safety profile of their drugs before it goes in the market. Why? What happens if the drug causes injury? They can be sued, and they're sued all day long on their drug products. Drugs come off the market all the time, but they can't be sued for the vaccine. Speaker 0: Let's show you some evidence. There's a hepatitis b vaccine given to a baby in the 1st day of life. 1st 24 hours, they're getting this vaccine. We're not making this up. If you look at the vaccine, if you asked your doctor, I wanna see The insert wrapped around the vaccine. Look what it says about the safety trial. This is how we licensed it. This is what the FDA saw and said, good enough for us. Put it on the market. In 3 clinical studies there was 4 34 doses of Recombivax HB that were 5 micrograms, We're administered to 147 healthy infants and children up to 10 years of age. A 147 Was the size of this massively tested trial for the fate of every day 1 old baby in America and probably around the world. How long did that trial last? No placebo. They were monitored for 5 days. Speaker 1: 5 days. And to put what you're looking at in context, just to understand, this is the FDA website. This is the package insert for the hepatitis b vaccine. Section 6.1, you can look at every single don't take our word For this chart on the right, those safety review periods seem incredible. And in fact, I wouldn't believe them if you showed them to me. But all you have to do Speaker 0: Would you take any drug that had 5 days, 3 days, 28 days safety trial? That would be insane. And by the way, we've brought lawsuits against CDC and FDA on this. We said, If there's a safety trial longer than 7 days on the on the h, hepatitis B vaccine, we'd like to see it. FOIA request, Right? Speaker 1: Right. So for all of these clinical trials, in section 611, they summarize the safety review period, the control used, and how big the trial is, how Powered it is and those numbers seem so unbelievable that we actually FOIAed Freedom of Information Act, Sent request to the FDA to get copies of clinical trial reports and that in fact, for example, for this, hepatitis b vaccine, it is 5 days of safety review after injection With a 147 children, you that doesn't determine anything. And the only reason I think the company that sells this product, Merck, Is is okay with this, why the FDA is we'll get into, is because they don't have to worry about paying for injuries after his license. Speaker 0: Let's get to some videos. Okay. We plan on this going faster. I'm like, wow, that clock's moving quickly. I wanna show you what some of these people are saying on the stand. So, this is Stanley Plotkin. Yep. Right? So Stanley Plotkin is arguably the leading voice in vaccines in the world. He's on almost every vaccine company's board of directors in one way or another across the world. And if you go to the CDC and you sit in one of their meetings at the ACE IT, the Advisory Committee on Immunisation Practices, the gavel is called the Plotkin Gavel And the book written on vaccines that's this big is Plotkin' on vaccines. When he was asked Wanna play it? Speaker 1: Yeah. Go ahead. And this is just the world's leading vaccinologist and vaccines when I asked him about, and I confronted him about the hepatitis B vaccine that we looked at. Under oath. And when they're under oath, you get a little bit of a different answer than when they're on TV or they're doing commercial. Speaker 2: It is my great Honored to use the Stanley Plotkin gavel to open this meeting. Speaker 3: Our good friend and colleague, doctor Doctor. Plotkin. Doctor. Plotkin. Speaker 4: Virtually every country in the world is affected by his vaccines. Speaker 3: He was involved in pivotal trials on anthrax, Oral polio, rabies vaccine, Speaker 1: rubella vaccine, the rotavirus vaccine, rabies. Speaker 5: He has earned the distinguished physician award of the pediatric Infectious Disease Society, the Finland Award of the National Foundation For Infectious Diseases, the Hilleman Award of the American Society For Microbiology, the French Legion of Honor, and the Bruce Medal Preventive medicine. Speaker 3: He's a member of the Institute of Medicine and the French Academy of Medicine. Speaker 6: One of the very special things about him is the global impact that he's had, Not just from the products, but from his book. Speaker 3: He developed a standard textbook for vaccines in 1988. Speaker 5: Bill Gates calls his book a bible for vaccinologists. Speaker 7: I hope you all have, indeed have read the book, and I hope it's more accurate than the bible. Speaker 8: He trained, just a generation of scientists, including myself, to, to think like he thinks. Doctor Plokken, earlier you you testified that there are 2 hep B vaccines in the market, 1, by Glaxo GSK, That's Engerix B and the other one is by Merck, Recombivax HB, right? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: This is the Product, the manufacturer insert for Recombivax HB, correct? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: And the clinical trial experience would be found in Section 6.1, correct? Correct? Doctor. Plotkin? Speaker 7: Doctor. Yes. Speaker 8: Doctor. Okay. In Section 6.1, When you look at the clinical trials that were done pre licensure for COMVAX HB, how long does it say that safety was monitored after each dose? Speaker 7: Let's see. 5 days. Speaker 8: Is 5 days long enough to detect an autoimmune issue that arises after 5 days? Speaker 7: No. Speaker 8: Is 5 days long enough to detect any neurological disorder that arose from the vaccine after 5 days? No. There is no control group, correct? Speaker 7: It does not mention any control group, no. Speaker 8: If you turn to Section 6.2, under immune system disorders, Does it say that there were reports of hypersensitive reactions, including anaphylactic, anaphylactoid reactions, bronchospasms, And urticaria having been reported within the 1st few hours after vaccination? Yes. There have been reports of hypersensitivity syndrome? Speaker 7: Yes. That's what Speaker 8: it states. Does it reports of arthritis? Speaker 7: It is mentioned. Okay. Speaker 8: It also reports, autoimmune diseases, including Systemic lupus, erythematoses, lupus like syndrome, vasculitis, And polyteritis nodosa as well. Correct? Speaker 7: Yes. That's what it states. Speaker 8: And also, it states that, under the nervous system disorders, it states that, after that, there have been reports of Guillain Barre Syndrome, correct? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: As well as multiple sclerosis, exacerbation of multiple sclerosis, Myelitis, including transverse myelitis, seizure, febrile seizure, peripheral neuropathy, including Bell's palsy, Radiculopathy? Radiculopathy. Thank you very much. Muscle weakness, Hypothesia and encephalitis, correct? Speaker 7: Correct. Speaker 8: These are, events that are reported after vaccination. And as we've just Discussed, in order to establish whether it's causal between the vaccine and the condition, you need A randomly a randomized placebo controlled study, but that was not done for the this hepatitis B vaccine before licensure, was it? Speaker 7: No. Speaker 8: Okay. And given that the DXC now appears on the CDC's recommended list, Isn't it true that it would now be considered unethical to conduct such a study today? Speaker 7: It would be yes. It would be ethically difficult. Speaker 0: And there you have it. That's how every vaccine has made it through the process. Imagine how many of us gave the day 1 old baby with all of those side effects that were known, but the reason they get away with saying that there's no causal relationship is they refuse to do the study that would have allowed you to say they were causally related and therefore gets approved, 5 days of safety. That is the massive amount of studies that have been done for products given in day 1 old babies. And let me point this out. We have more babies die on the 1st day of life in the United States of America than every other industrialized nation combined. That is a terrible death rate for the greatest hospital system in the greatest nation in the world. And can they explain it? And why does your baby need a hepatitis B vaccine, a sexually transmitted disease that you usually only get if you were involved in multiple partners, prostitution or sharing heroin needles. Why does our baby on the 1st day of life need to get that vaccine? And they might say, well, the mom could be hepatitis B positive. Yeah, but every mother in America is tested and gets a blood test and we know whether she has it or not. So then why is every baby getting it when we know they're the only mothers with a baby might even need it. This is how ridiculous this entire system is and it starts there. Let's continue on. Post licensure, right? We talked pre licensure, that's like what happens before it's licensed, what happens after it's post, you know, out there in the market. Speaker 8: So if, Speaker 1: you know, before licensure, you don't have proper clinical trials that review safety for long duration against a control group that you can really compare it against, You'd at least hope that after licensure that studies are being conducted to assure the safety of childhood vaccines. Well, As we all know and you probably heard the CDC and other health agencies say all the time, all claimed harms Speaker 8: are thoroughly studied. Speaker 1: And, and they'll and, you know, you'll hear this, always, you know, rest assured if you say vaccines cause x, they'll tell you it doesn't And and probably the most famous claim, they'll tell you that don't worry vaccines do not cause. Right. Speaker 4: You Speaker 1: do that all the time. And so, in looking at this issue, you know, I I remember Dell, we discussed, Well, if we're gonna start to see how well do our health authorities, how well do the pharmaceutical companies really study The claimed harms the vaccines. Let's start by seeing how well they've studied The injury that they have told us, they have studied more thoroughly than anything else. Speaker 0: This one The vaccine is definitely covered. We've proved beyond a Shout of a doubt that vaccines do not cause autism. We have no idea what causes autism, they'll say on the news. Totally blind to that concept, but we do know what doesn't cause it. Speaker 5: We're not sure of the scientific community what causes autism, but we know that vaccines Do not. Speaker 1: Vaccines are really the one thing we have looked at as causing autism. Speaker 3: We know that vaccines don't cause autism. The science is Clear. Speaker 6: Vaccines don't cause autism. Speaker 1: I do not deny in any way that we need to do more about autism, but it has nothing to do The vaccines. Speaker 2: Let me be clear. Vaccines do not cause autism. Speaker 8: Vaccines don't cause autism. Absolutely sure. Absolutely sure. Speaker 1: Well, then great. The studies must be prolific. They must have studied every vaccine to assure that in fact vaccines don't cause autism. Here's the thing. Despite the fact that they're on the news and they're constantly telling everybody out there vaccines don't cause autism, studies surveying parents With children with autistic children, to this day, still 40 to 70% according to these studies of these parents say They believe that vaccines, 1 or more, cause autism. And when you ask them, what vaccine? What vaccine are you attributing to your child's autism? These are the vaccines that they'll typically list, the ones that it just got highlighted in red. This is the CDC vaccine schedule, and you can see it's the hepatitis b vaccine given 3 times by 6 months of age, And the DTaP, Hib, IPV, these are the vaccines that they will look at as and and click as well as the MMR vaccine, which is at the very bottom, Which is given no earlier than 1 year of age. So if you're gonna study, vaccines, and you're gonna say vaccines don't cause autism. You're gonna study the vaccines the parents are claiming are causing autism. Right? The vaccines given in the 1st months of 6 months of life. And just to be clear, This claim that these vaccines are causing autism goes way back. This is this what I'm about to show you is a decade Before Andy Wakefield said a word about vaccines and autism. This is the National Child Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, The law that Del referred to earlier that gave manufacturers immunity liability, when it did that, the law itself, Congress required their health authorities to study the 10 or 11 most commonly claimed injuries from these products. One of them on that list was autism. It said to our health authorities, study whether pertussis containing vaccines does or does not cause autism because It is something that is one of the most claimed injuries from this product. Again, a decade before Andy Wakefield said a word about vaccines and autism. In 1991, the Institute of Medicine did that study. They reviewed all the literature to see whether or not Vaccines, the pertussis vaccine, causes autism. Speaker 0: The most studied issue there is with vaccines, autism. And we The Institute of Medicine looks into it. How many studies have been done? What do we know about it? Speaker 1: So in 1991, 0. No studies have been done. Okay. Early days. No studies. 0. That's what they conclude. And, and then Speaker 0: when you think about this, Imagine you're a scientist or a doctor, you care about this issue. Well, one of those was Bernadine Healy, head of the NIH, the most powerful research institute in America and for the entire world. She got in, she's running the place, she's the top doctor in the United States of America, looks into the autism vaccine connection. She's asked in 2008 in a CBS interview by Cheryl Atkinson what she thinks. Remember, Oh, we figured this out. The science is settled. Top scientist head of NIH, former head of NIH. Speaker 6: This is the time when we do have the opportunity to understand Whether or not there are susceptible children, perhaps genetically, perhaps they have a metabolic issue, mitochondrial disorder, Immunological issue that makes them more susceptible to vaccines, plural, Or to one particular vaccine or to a component of vaccine, like mercury. So we now, in these times, Have to, I think, take another look at that hypothesis, not deny it. And I think we have the tools today that we didn't have 10 years ago, We didn't have 20 years ago to try and tease that out and find out if indeed there is that susceptible group. Why is this important? A susceptible group does not mean that vaccines aren't good. What a susceptible group will tell us is That maybe there is a group of individuals or a group of children that shouldn't have a particular vaccine or shouldn't have vaccine on the same schedule. It is the job of the public health community and of physicians to be out there and to say, Yes, We can make it safer because we are able to say this is a subset. We're going to deliver it in a way that we think is safer. Speaker 9: Do you feel the government was too quick to dismiss out of hand that there was this possibility of a link between vaccines and autism? Speaker 6: I think the government or Certain public health officials in the government have been too quick to dismiss the concerns of these families without studying the population that got sick. I haven't seen major studies that focus on 300 kids who got, Autistic symptoms Within a period of a few weeks of a vaccine, the reason why they didn't want to look for those Susceptibility Groups Was because they were afraid that if they found them, however big or small they were, that that would scare the public away. The fact that there is concern that you don't want to know that susceptible group is a real disappointment to me. If you know that susceptible group, you can save those children. Speaker 9: It sounds like you don't think the hypothesis of a link between vaccines and autism It's completely irrational. Speaker 6: So when I first heard about it, I thought, Well, that doesn't make sense to me. The more you delve into it, if you look at the basic science, if you look at the research that's been done in Animals. If you also look at, some of these individual cases and if you look at the evidence that there is no link, What I come away with is the question has not been answered. Speaker 0: What? Head of NIH, 2008? What? The question hasn't been answered, what am I hearing on the news every single day? And I want you to remember, if you take one thing away, listen to what she said. We are so afraid That if we do a study that finds a small group of children that are susceptible, not the whole group, just a small group, that are having a bad reaction to this. We're afraid that no matter how small that group is, that if we discover it, it will scare everybody away from taking vaccines and therefore, we are not doing those studies. That is the fact. You want a motive? It's not evil. It's not money grubbing. It's that they are so afraid that they will hurt the vaccine program by investigating and finding the truth that they refuse to find the truth. And no studies are being done on these issues at all. Speaker 1: Well, in 2012, To that point, our health authorities again hire the Institute of Medicine to look again at whether or not pertussis containing vaccine, Seen this time as well as diphtheria and tetanus containing vaccine do or do not cause autism. The Institute of Medicine then Created this massive panel that reviewed all the scientific literature out there and they only could find 1 study Relating to DTaP, again, the vaccine given at 2, 4 6 months of life and autism. This Geyer and Geyer study which actually found That there was a correlation between DTaP vaccines and autism, but they threw out the study because it was based on VAERS data. The important point is not that study. The important point is, here we are in 2012, over 2 decades After the 1986 act told our health authorities, study whether pertussis containing vaccine does or doesn't cause autism, And there is still not a single study conducted. Speaker 0: The biggest complaint parents have across the world of this vaccine, the number one biggest complaint, the most dangerous complaint, our government is saying study it, In 2 decades, they've still refused to do a single study and you're told this has been handled extensively. Speaker 1: So I had an opportunity again to ask the world's leading vaccinologists about exactly that finding. Speaker 8: Gonna hand you what's being marked as exhibit 22. This is an excerpt from the IOM's report. Speaker 7: Right? Yes. Okay. Speaker 8: And this is where the IOM discusses the evidence with regard to whether DTaP or Tdap Cause autism correct? Correct. Okay. If you turn to the 2nd page can you read the causality conclusion with regard to whether TAP and TDAAP cause autism. Speaker 7: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid, tetanus toxoid, Or acellular pertussis containing vaccine and autism. Speaker 8: So the IOM reviewed the available evidence with regard to whether Tdap or DTaP can cause autism and their conclusion was the evidence doesn't exist To show whether DTaP or TDaP do or do not cause autism, correct? Speaker 7: Yes, but the point is that there are no studies showing that it does cause autism except one study By 2 well known anti vaccination figures, Guyer and Guyer, who have no legitimacy whatsoever. So what they're saying is that there's no evidence and, the important point from my point of view is that there is no positive evidence to do a proper study As we've been discussing which would disprove it would involve The controlled administration of vaccines and, withholding vaccines from children who should have them. Speaker 8: But since there's no evidence that DTaP or Tdap don't cause autism, you can't yet say that vaccines do Speaker 7: not cause autism, correct? I cannot say that as a, as a scientist or a logician, But I can say as a physician Speaker 8: that no, they do not cause autism. So what you're saying is as a physician or logician, Then you couldn't say vaccines do not, you could not say vaccines do not cause autism, But as a pediatrician, you're saying that you would say that to a parent because You want to make sure they get the vaccine is that right? Speaker 7: You know I can't be sure that DTaP doesn't cause leprosy. That doesn't mean that that stops me from using a DTaP vaccine. Are people Claiming Speaker 8: that DTAP has caused leprosy? Speaker 1: I Are you aware of any such complaints? Speaker 7: I'm not aware of any such complaints but I wouldn't be surprised To see it on the web one of these days. Speaker 8: Okay, but but people have made enough complaints about DTaP, Tdap causing autism, that the Institute of Medicine at the commission of HHS thought it was serious enough To do a scientific review, correct? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: If you don't know whether DTaP or Tdap cause autism, Shouldn't you wait until you do know, until you have the science to support it? To then say that vaccines do not cause autism? Speaker 7: Do I wait? No. I do not wait because I have to take into account the health of the child. Speaker 8: And so for that reason, you're okay with telling the parent that DTaP, Tdap does not cause autism Even though the science isn't there yet to support that claim? Speaker 7: Absolutely. I'm also willing to tell them it doesn't cause leprosy. Speaker 8: Okay. Again, did the IOM review whether DTEF caused a leprosy? Speaker 1: No. Okay. You know, I will say that in my experience deposing vaccinologists, immunologists, pediatricians, infectious disease specialists, particularly vaccinologists, When there isn't any evidence, one or another, their conclusion is it doesn't cause it. I've not experienced that in any other area of science. Let's move on before we run out of time. So, you know, one of the things we wanted to do was we said fine. Maybe the Institute of Medicine couldn't find it. Maybe the head you know, the the the leading vaccine knowledge in the world doesn't have these studies. But the CDC surely should have these studies. The CDC, on its website, says vaccines don't cause autism. So here, we submitted a Freedom of Information Act request To the CDC asking them, please provide all studies relied upon by the CDC to claim that DTaP vaccines don't cause autism. We did the same for hep b vaccine, Prevnar, Hib, inactivated polio vaccine, as well as all those vaccines combined. We said, please give us the studies. Guess what? They didn't give it to us. So we had to sue them in federal court. And here is the conclusion of that federal lawsuit. The CDC finally Listed 20 studies that they rely upon, they say, to claim that vaccines don't cause autism for the vaccines given in the 1st 6 months of life. I can only assume they think we don't read or something, but we do. So we read the 20 studies. Here's the thing about them. 18 of them involve the Marisol, an ingredient not in any of the vaccines we asked about, or the MMR vaccine not given Until at least 1 year of life. One of them involved antigen, one of the studies, not vaccine exposure. And that study even says it cannot tell you whether don't cause autism because they didn't study them. Just studied a con a component of it. And then finally, the last thing it provided, incredibly, Was a review from 2012, the one we looked at before, that looked at MMR demerisole. Again, MMR, not a vaccine we've asked about. Demerisole, not an ingredient in the vaccines. And DTaP. That's the DTaP review we just read from 2012. So the only reviewer study they provided us That actually involved a single one of the vaccines given in the 1st 6 months of life Was a study by the Institute of Medicine that found we don't have a single study of whether DTaP does or doesn't cause autism. I had an opportunity to depose, maybe the 2nd or 3rd leading vaccinologist in the world today, doctor Kathryn Edwards, in a case Specifically about vaccines and autism, actually. You see there you can see the medical textbook on vaccines Speaker 0: He's one of the authors on the same Plotkin book. You can see her Speaker 1: right there listed One of the, the editors, and, and you could hear when I confronted her about this issue, what she had to say about the state of the science With regards to whether vaccines don't cause autism again the the issue they say they have studied more thoroughly and robustly than any other claimed vaccine injury. Speaker 8: According to your profile, you have done most of the treatable trials relied upon to license many of the vaccines, correct, on the market? Speaker 10: Yes, sir. Okay. Speaker 8: So you're highly experienced in conducting clinical trials, correct? Speaker 10: I'm highly experienced conducting clinical Speaker 8: And you're familiar with many of the clinical trials that rely upon to license many of the vaccines currently on the market. Correct? Speaker 2: I am. Speaker 1: In your opinion, Speaker 8: did the clinical trials relied upon to license the vaccines that Gates received, Many of which are still on the market today. Were they designed to rule out That the vaccine causes autism. Speaker 2: No. You badgered me into answering the question the way you want me to, but I I think that, That, that I've, that's probably the answer. Speaker 8: Is it, is that your accurate and truthful testimony? Speaker 4: Yes. In the expert disclosures for this case, it it asserts that among other things, you will testify that quote, The issue of whether vaccines cause autism has been thoroughly researched and rejected, end quote. It's your testimony that MMR vaccine cannot cause autism. Speaker 10: That's correct. Speaker 4: It's your testimony that hep b vaccine cannot cause autism. Speaker 10: That's correct. Speaker 4: It's your testimony that IPOL cannot cause autism. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 4: It's Is your testimony that Hib vaccine cannot cause autism? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: Is Speaker 4: your testimony that Varicella vaccine cannot cause autism? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 4: It's your testimony that Prevnar vaccine cannot cause autism? Speaker 10: Yes. Speaker 4: And it's your testimony that DTAB vaccine cannot cause autism? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 4: And do you have a study that supports that DTaP doesn't cause autism? Speaker 10: I have I do not have a study that's that DTaP Speaker 2: causes autism. So I don't have either. Speaker 4: Do you have any study one way or another of whether Ipol causes autism? Speaker 10: I no. I do not, sir. Speaker 4: Do you have any study one way or another of whether Engerix B causes autism? Speaker 10: I do not have any, evidence that it causes autism nor that it does not. Speaker 4: And what about, HID titers Vaccine. Any evidence one way or another, whether it causes autism? And what about Prevnar vaccine? Any evidence one way or another? Speaker 10: No, sir. Speaker 4: And how about varicella vaccine? Let me just finish. Are there any studies one way or another that support whether it does or doesn't cause autism? Speaker 10: Part of of MMR, but but not as, varicella by itself. No, sir. No Studies that say it does or no studies that say it doesn't. Speaker 4: Right. There have been studies that have found An association between hepatitis B vaccine and autism, correct? Speaker 10: Not Studies that I feel are credible. Speaker 4: K. Which study which study do you are you referring to when you say that? Well, why Speaker 10: don't you show me the study and then I'll see whether I agree with it. Speaker 0: Ultimately, here's what it comes down to. Of all the studies they've told you, they've done all these studies of the vaccine program. They've only ever looked at 1 vaccine truly, that's the MMR vaccine, none of the other 16 vaccines given in 72 doses, They've only done studies on one of all of those ingredients and that's the mercury that's no longer in most of the vaccines and you still have 50 to 70% of parents saying I'm pretty sure it happened right after the vaccine, that's when I lost my kid and I want to point out, get to the next video and you can set it up, but I want to point this out: they will tell you, Well, that's just a knee jerk reaction of a parent, they need something to blame, they blame the vaccines because vaccines are something you're giving your kids every day. I will assure you I have interviewed thousands of these parents and these stories. And what they will end up telling you is it was the last thing that they ever wanted to blame. They listened to their doctors, they chased every other red herring they could find for an excuse. They wanted it to be their DNA. Please let it be my DNA so there's nothing I had involved with When they finally come to the conclusion that it's a vaccine that they chose to give their child, that is one of the darkest days for every one of these parents that's ever been through it. Because now I did it. I gave my kids something that I could have opted out of, I could have been against, I could have done some reading on it and now the guilt is with them the rest of their lives. I assure you, this is not a go to, jump to, I just want to blame vaccines because the day you come to that conclusion, you're gonna be blaming yourself the rest of your life and no one makes that their first choice. So when you have up to 70% of parents saying it's the vaccine, these are parents in pain that have looked for every other reason there could have possibly been and they're only left with one obvious conclusion. Speaker 1: So a lot of people say, well, how could this happen? How could regulators allow this to happen? 2000, there's a congressional report that found that most of the members of the, CDC and FDA vaccine committees have substantial substantial ties to the pharmaceutical industry. 2009, they find it again, and here's the deposition again of Doctor. Edwards, who was one of the members of the 5 person, Data Safety Monitoring Board for the Pfizer COVID nineteen vaccine. Speaker 8: Isn't it true that Speaker 11: you have also been an advisor to Pfizer? Speaker 2: Yes, sir. I have been an advisor to Pfizer, and I've been Working very, very closely with Pfizer, particularly with their COVID vaccines, and going over lots So a reaction to that risk event. So yes, I am working and be paid by Pfizer for my assessment of vaccine safety. Speaker 11: The part of the Data Safety Monitoring Board Speaker 8: for the project COVEX, you know, you said that. Speaker 11: You're one Speaker 8: of the only 5 members Speaker 11: of that Data Safety Monitoring Board, so with Pfizer COVID nineteen vaccine, right? Speaker 2: Yes, you're right. Speaker 11: That's supposed to be independent Data Safety Monitoring Board, correct? Speaker 2: It is an independent Data Safety Monitoring Speaker 11: That's the board that Speaker 8: all of us Speaker 11: in America Our hoping on and relying upon is going to independently make sure that safety is properly assessed Speaker 8: as the clinical trial for that Pfizer COVID Speaker 2: That's true. And let me tell you that that we have worked very hard to to do that indeed, as comprehensively as we possibly can. Speaker 11: And since it's supposed to be independent, it's critical that the members of that independent Data Safety Monitoring Board are in fact independent Of the pharmaceutical company whose product is being evaluated, correct? Speaker 2: That's correct. Speaker 11: But this is true that directly before becoming a member of the Independent Data so Speaker 8: you can monitor the Pfizer COVID nineteen vaccine. You were Pfizer to Pfizer? Speaker 2: Pfizer pays me To evaluate the safety of the vaccines because I'm an expert. So I do get paid to do the work Speaker 11: My question was, Before you became a member of the independent data safety monitoring work for the Pfizer COVID nineteen vaccine, isn't it true that Speaker 1: you were Speaker 11: Separate before you held that independent position, you were an advisor to Pfizer. Speaker 2: Yes, sir. But I think what you're presuming is that because I've been an advisor makes me on their door What makes me, going to say what they want me to say, that head is not and has never been a part of my being. I'd say what I believe based on my expertise. Speaker 11: So, you don't think that financial Incentives can sway people's judgment at all. Speaker 2: It does not sway my judgment, sir. Speaker 8: Why BOGS having an independent Data Safety Monitoring Board? Why isn't Pfizer just have some of its employees on it? Speaker 2: Because we are independent. Speaker 11: Meaning folks who were never advisors to Pfizer. Speaker 2: We are independent from Pfizer in this assessment. Speaker 1: The one thing to think about though, it's it's comical in in a way, but it's also, it's deadly serious because doctor Edwards was the vaccinologist Just on that 5 member independent data city monitor board who sat there evaluating the data while the COVID nineteen vaccine, Pfizer's COVID nineteen vaccine That's been given to about 200,000,000 Americans as being assessed Yep. Before it rolled out and was put into the arms of people across this country. You go and you inject almost every healthy person with something. You only need to mess that up one time one time to break our society. We'll we'll move on to, I guess we're almost out of time. Speaker 0: Final issue of abortion, which we're going to Mississippi tomorrow because Aaron Siri managed to win the biggest lawsuit in this space and return the religious exemption to Mississippi. Yeah. They lost that ability to opt out of the program in 1979 and just a couple months ago, you managed to win that. Why is it important? It's important for people, especially in the Bible Belt, that maybe don't want aborted babies being used in the processing, development and manufacturing of vaccines. You're told, well, it was 1 baby in the 1960s. Aaron Seery put Stanley Plotkin on the stand. Let's see if it really was 1 baby. In your work related to vaccines, how many fetuses have been part of that work? Speaker 7: My own personal work? 2. Speaker 8: I'm gonna hand you what's been marked plaintiff's exhibit 41. Okay. Are you familiar with this article, doctor Plotkin? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: Okay. Are you listed as an author on this article? Speaker 7: Yes. Okay. Speaker 8: This study took place at the Wistar Institute, correct? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: You were at the Wistar Institute, correct? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: How many fetuses were used in the study described in this article? Quite a few. So This study involved 74 fetuses, correct? Speaker 7: I don't remember exactly how many. Speaker 8: Turn to Page 12 of the study. Yeah. 76. 76. Mhmm. And, these fetuses, were all 3 months or older when aborted, correct? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: Okay. And these were all normally developed fetuses, correct? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: What organs did you harvest from these fetuses? Speaker 7: Well, I didn't personally harvest any, But, a whole range of tissues were harvested, by coworkers. Speaker 8: Okay. And these pieces were then cut up into little pieces, right? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: And they were cultured? Yes. Okay. Some of the pieces of the fetuses were pituitary gland That were that were chopped up into pieces to Speaker 7: Mhmm. Speaker 8: Okay. Included the lung of the fetuses? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: Okay. Included the skin? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: Kidney? Speaker 7: Yes. Spleen? Yes. Heart? Yes. Speaker 8: And and tongue? Speaker 7: I don't recall, but probably yes. Speaker 8: So I just want to make sure I understand. In your entire career and this was just 1 study, so I'm going to ask I'm going to ask you again. In your entire career, how many fetuses have you worked with? Speaker 7: Well, I don't remember the exact number, but quite a few When we were studying them, originally before we decided to use them to make vaccines. Speaker 8: Do you have any sense? I mean, this one study had 76. How many other studies did you have that you used the Border Fetuses for? Speaker 7: Oh, I don't remember how many. Speaker 8: You're you're aware are you aware that the one of the, objections to vaccination by the plaintiff in this case is The inclusion of aborted fetal tissue in the development of vaccines and the fact that it's actually Part of the ingredients of vaccines? Speaker 7: Yes. I'm aware of those objections. The Catholic Church has actually issued a document on that which says that individuals who need the vaccine should receive the vaccines regardless of the fact and that, that, I think it implies that I am the individual who will go to hell because of the use of aborted Tissues, which I am glad to to do. Okay. Speaker 8: Do you know if the mother is Catholic? Speaker 7: I have no idea. Speaker 8: Okay. Do you take issue with religious beliefs? Speaker 7: Yes. Okay. Speaker 8: You've said that, quote, vaccination is always under attack by religious zealots who believe that The will of God includes death and disease? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 8: You stand by that statement? Speaker 7: I absolutely do. Okay. Speaker 8: Are you an atheist? Speaker 7: Yes. Speaker 0: That's just some of the truths you can find at the highwire.com and the great work that Aaron Seery's been doing, getting the truth exposed. Hopefully, this will help you understand as you hear this conversation. You hear attacks on people like Robert Kennedy Junior being said that he's lying when he says that the safety trials haven't been done. Now, you know the truth. Spread the word. Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you.

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The Placebo Myth with receipts.

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Mega Thread - The Childhood Vaccine Placebo Myth Is a true saline placebo used w/ the 💉’s on the childhood schedule? All evidence I’ve provided is directly from the manufacturers insert or safety reports. This is not my opinion so take it up with FDA & Pharma if you’re mad.

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Every disease was in precipitous decline when the vaccine was introduced.

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Mega Thread The Religious Belief That Vaccines Saved The Human Race We all hear ad nauseam the phrase “safe & effective” for all vaccines, it’s like a religious mantra designed to bypass critical thinking capacity, rendering the truth impotent.

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VAERS, designed to be ignored.

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Mega Thread: VAERS You’ve probably noticed that anytime someone brings up the VAERS reports that are off the charts post injection, they are immediately dismissed as fake reports that have not been verified and the usual go to is “correlation doesn’t imply causation”.

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More testimony exposing “the $cience”

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MUST WATCH TESTIMONY October 13, 2009 Testimony By Dr. Gary Null before the New York State Assembly Hearing Dr. Null gives an impassioned and riveting testimony against the false beliefs about vaccines and their lack of safety data. He accuses the CDC, FDA and the pharmaceutical industry of scientific fraud and crimes against humanity. He brings the receipts, wait until you hear the absurd profit margins he cites for some of the most common drugs and this was in 2009. It’s an old video so the sound isn’t the greatest but it is definitely worth your time.

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The speaker questions the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, particularly in relation to autism. They criticize the lack of long-term, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies on vaccines and highlight the conflict of interest between vaccine manufacturers and regulatory bodies. The speaker also discusses the high number of lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and the exorbitant markups on popular drugs. They argue that the current scientific evidence does not support the trust placed in vaccines and advocate for freedom of choice in healthcare decisions. The speaker claims to have a comprehensive review of the safety and efficacy of flu vaccines and mentions dissenting opinions on the connection between vaccines and autism.
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Speaker 0: I'm going to try to bring 4 separate pieces of the puzzle together. Some of it may include some of what you've already heard, but I'm I know for a fact much of it is different. There's no Jewish saying, a half truth is a whole lie. I begin my discussion by asking 2 basic questions. Are vaccines safe? If so, what is the proof? Are vaccines effective? If so, what is the proof? I am not talking about all vaccines, though this applies to all vaccines specifically on what we're dealing with. I have reviewed the scientific literature extensively. I've spent the last seven and a half years with thousands of hours of research on the subject of autism and what connections they may have to environmental factors including vaccines. Not just the Thimerosal in vaccines, but the other ingredients as well. I produced an award winning document called Hautists Made USA. I produced a separate document called Vaccine Nation representing all sides. All of it, the Primary response from the United States vaccines in general is that Myrna has his say. I then did something that I thought had been done, and I was surprised when I realized it had not. When I began to review what amounted to thousands of peer reviewed literature studies on vaccines, I found that I could find no convincing evidence that any vaccine at all had long term double blind, placebo controlled study trials. And even when they said, when the evidence I did examine that the CDC and the FDA and other organizations were using as, oh, of course, they're studies. And they showed the studies. They would say, well, this is a study, and then I would find it. Well, you left out the virus part of the vaccine, but you included all the other ingredients, including thimerosal and mercury and formaldehyde that center it. Well, that's not a placebo. And in good science, you don't use that as placebo. I also saw that virtually all the studies that were supporting the vaccines were done by the vaccine manufacturers. And since the FDA does not do independent studies on this on the creation safety net vaccine vaccines, but rather relies upon the information from the vaccine manufacturers. And there's a very close relationship. I then took a very careful look at this relationship and found that more than 50% of people sitting home, the FDA and the CDC's Vaccine advisory program were from vaccine manufacturers. I thought this was a gross conflict of interest. The rationale was given that There are not enough experts who are independent to sit on these committees, and I thought that's absurd. There are more than 3,000,000 outstanding scientists in the United States. Don't tell me you can't find 15 who have no industry affiliation, so on the vaccine scheduling committee. I then took a careful look, and here's what I found. And this is where you have to bring the pieces together before you lose sight. We're too close, too narrow on this issue. First, when a child is given the vaccine, adults given the vaccine, a senior citizen's given the vaccine, rarely, if Ever has anyone done any study that I can find, and I'm open to the fact I may not have found one that was done, but I looked at 1,000 where they look at combinations vaccine used in the given individual to see what short and long term impact it might have had. Now my the panel before said that only 2% of vaccine seen adverse reactions are reported. The highest number I could find was the FDA's 10%. When you consider that $1,300,000,000 has to get out vaccine mandate, and you consider that the criteria for receiving that reward is based upon getting The proof that your vaccine injury occurred in a very narrow frame of time, and then you look at the epidemiological evidence. You talk with immunologists. You talk with people. In every specialty of medicine, they will tell you many people will have a delayed reaction to a vaccine. It might be a month, 6 months, a year, even 2 years. Now I'm wanting to ask, you're willing to inject pregnant women in this state or fire them if they don't take the vaccine. Are you or any member here, anyone is the governor? Is anyone in the state be held personally and legally responsible if that developing fetus hits that mercury into the brain and ends up with a learning disability, with autism, with any one of the offices of Beckman's orders or ends up with some form of intellectual deficit. We had an epidemic. I did another award winning documentary the drug of our children. Appalling to know that when you were going to school, when I was going to school, no kid got drugged. Today, 10,000,000 American children don't go to school before they get a class 2 drug. The same class as cocaine. Do we actually we have a new epidemic that didn't happen to any generation in American history, anywhere else in the world, that suddenly happened in the last 25 years Does the newest generation have a brain chemical imbalance? No. And yet the so called experts, the very experts that would rely upon her and say, well, it must be something wrong, that's why we're giving him the drugs, the drugs must work. And I say, no. The number one cause of death in the United States in 10 to 14 year old boys is suicide. How many kids committed suicide when you were going to school, sir? None when I went to school. When I went to the largest high school in my state, 5,500 students, Mark Zuckerberg High School. So where do we have a whole new generation of people where autism is suddenly showing a tip that never before? If autism where historically there, then everyone in their fifties, sixties, and seventies would start representing at least percentage wise population Autistic adults, we don't see it. It doesn't exist. And then we reduce to acknowledge that what they're getting early in life could be contributing to it. So I'm saying I am not willing to step by quietly and allow women who've been used and abused by the medical authorities, the very same medical doctors who have An enormous hubris and contempt for women say, your body is our concern. Your developing fetus is in our best interest to make sure it's born healthy, and yet give them mercury. You asked that same doctor, would you give that woman lead? Would you give anyone the screw lead? If you did, you would go to jail. So you're gonna give something more toxic than lead to every one of these pregnant women? Sir, I'm appalled and I'm offended in the extreme, and I will not contain my concern. Because these same women that we're so called interested in, For the last 35 years, I've been one of the leading people advocating against synthetic hormone replacement therapies. We know now it causes breast cancer, ovarian cancer, heart attacks, Dementia and stroke, 10% minimum, 13% more likely. You're talking about 10,000,000 women, that's 1,300,000 women we're allowing to be sacrificed by some of the altar of ignorance or greed or hubris. My mother died of a heart attack the middle night as she was taking synthetic hormone replacement therapy. Now part another part of this scenario is the number one cause of death in the United States is American medicine. I did a report that has not been refuted with 5 other MD board certified PhDs called death by medicine. I was intrigued when the American Medical Association said that the number 3 or 4 causes death in the United States was hydrolysis. What they failed to mention were all the other causes. So we did the same statistics using their statistics, no one else's, and no editorializing, we found that more Americans died each year from medical errors than heart attacks or strokes or cancer. More are injured. 723,000. Doctor will pay from Harvard, considered the United States' expert on this, at over a1000000 We're even conservative, and our figures and his figures do not account for anyone who has adverse reaction at home, only in institutional settings. So the figure is much higher. Now you would think that you have more Americans killed each year preventable deaths, more Americans injured, preventable injuries, than all of American casualties in the 1st and 2nd World War combined in 1 year, that there be a hearing, a committee, some open forum such as this, which I'm happy you're doing. Nothing. It's the £10,000 gorilla in the room. So if American medicine is incapable, As good as we are, and I respect what works in American medicine, it saves lives. But I'm also very much concerned about the lives takes and does not acknowledge. So now I've got a problem with the doctor giving me some uncertainty, whether it's a doctor in private practice or a doctor at the state board level saying that trust us. I'm saying I'm trusting the science, and the science does not show that you deserve my trust. Now the World Health Organization, I believe, is disingenuous and plain half truths. As of May 2009, a pandemic was defined as quote, from the World Health Organization, an influenza pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity resulting in evidence worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness, unquote. Now, today, it reads, quote, a disease epidemic occurs when there is, are more cases of that disease than normal. A pandemic is a worldwide epidemic of a disease, an influence. Pandemic may occur when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity. Unquote. Conclusion? By the new definition, the world will always be in a pandemic requiring flu vaccines. This is not What the World Health Organization recently announced? Now the efficacy. Doctor Anthony Morris, who should have been here, The former chief vaccine officer, top up authority at the FDA, quote, the producers of these vaccines know they are worthless, but they go on selling it anyway. CDC officials have confessed both influenza vaccines with the least effective immunizing agents available, especially for the elderly and the children. So when I was in Albany last week and met with a physician, I asked a simple question. Why are you giving this up first to pregnant women, children, and the senior citizen? Well, because it's gonna say, for senior citizens, I had 5 peer review studies. The only 5 peer review studies considered a quality showing efficacy levels for the swine flu vaccine. 0, 2%, 7%, 9%. That For the flu vaccine, it would be considered completely statistically non significant. Therefore, there is no protection that We can say that the flu vaccine or the swine flu vaccine confers upon senior citizens. Yet, with just a dismissal of a thought, It went out the window. Well, not when you're a senior citizen and you're more likely to have a compromised immune system, we have more illnesses in the United States today than ever before in our history. We have epidemics of immune related illnesses. Arthritis, diabetes, cancers, lupus, Fibromyalgia, these are not healthy people. And yet in the FDA and they mentioned earlier, doctor Tom Jackson, head of vaccine field group at Cochrane database, a review of all published and unpublished efficacy evidence, and I looked at all their actual studies and then take his word, They found only 1 safety study performed with an inactivated flu vaccine conducted back in 1976. Quote, most studies are of poor methodological quality and the impact of cofounders is high. Quote, evidence for Systemic reviews show that inactivated vaccines have little or no effect on the effects measured, unquote. Quote, immunization of young children is not linked Poured by our findings, we recorded no convincing evidence that vaccines can reduce death, hospital admission, serious complications, community transmission influence. Quote, in young children below the age of 2, we can find no evidence that the vaccines was diff were different than a placebo. And then last week, the National Institutes of Health announced 2 efficacy and safety trials underway. 1 for pregnant women, another for healthy adults with asthma. Now Look at the analysis. There are no control groups, and to me that inactivates the quality of the study. And the exclusion criteria for pregnant women, if a Exclusion criteria for pregnant women. If a pregnant woman shows the temperature is fine to 100 degrees Fahrenheit or higher in 72 hours, both from receiving the shot, they are excluded from the study. Hello? Hello? My god. What has happened? Has science gone crazy? The whole idea is that if a pregnant woman has a vaccine and she has a temperature, you immediately say that is A positive action that must be considered and examined. You're gonna exclude her? This is a fixed study. This is absolute scientific fraud, And I will sue these bastards. Trust me. I am not a person he played with on these issues, And I had the resources and the attorneys to do so. I'm not going to allow another one of these stupid industry studies. Now I can go on. I'm not going to because many of the people have touched, but here's what you didn't know. None of you knew. No one in America knows this. So this is something you should think on, sir. And I'm not holding you responsible for my thoughts or my emotions, so please do not personalize it. Alright? You're here. You have to take a lot of stuff today. I'm sorry to be the bearer of my own energy too. Alright? I decided to do something I am embarrassed to say no one in the media has done. I wanted to see the efficacy excuse Excuse me. I wanna see the character. The people that we've been supporting, much like the banks that were too big to fail and the 20 banks that were Solvent, we gave all that hard money to. Well, I looked into their background, and I found that they have suddenly a $1,000,000,000,000 of lawsuits for every crime you could imagine. Now if you or I committed the kind of crimes that these individuals committed, we would not be held up as a carrier of high value. Then I went to the vaccine mandates, the very people we trust, the people we save you're giving us a vaccine, we were going to accept that you've done the good science, that you have no alternative motive except to protect people, you make a little profit line? I have all their data from LexisNexis. I hired a group of young attorneys who were researchers, and I said, I want every study. We now have Just assembling 132,000 lawsuits. Let me repeat that, sir. 132,000 lawsuits But these individuals have have paid for buying from price fixing, falsifying scientific data, skewing studies, knowing in advance they had in unhealthy and toxic drugs and lying on the market. Why? Because it was considered the cost of doing business. The cost of doing business ended up causing 43,000 Americans died from 1 drug, 1 drug, Biox. Doctor Graham of the FDA, who I interviewed, who was a very conscientious person said that he went to the FDA and his own office and said we can't allow this drug out. It is dangerous. They kept him quiet. They intimidated him. They threatened him. He's on the record saying that. And Fios came out. In 4 years, they killed 43,000 people injured a 125,000, and yet they settled a lawsuit for $4,500,000,000, and their stock went up. My job. Where else did in America could you kill 43,000 people and get a raise? Am I the only person find this rather odd that these serial criminals, these absolute criminals, are the ones that we trust with our help, an entire nation put at risk? Now if they had a clean record, If it only been shown to do good things for the public, yes. But I got a 132,000 studies a lawsuit settled. How many do do I not have that we're settled and no amount was given? Triple that. Over $1,000,000,000,000. So here we have it. People who have committed crimes, their crimes end up causing death and injury, and we give them a clean pass. I get out of jail. No character assassination. Nobody goes to jail. Nobody is harmed. Your reputations are intact. We're in fact we don't care what you do. We don't care how many crimes you commit. We don't care how many Americans you kill or injure. Go ahead and make us our vaccine. They say, well, We need to give them necessities. We need to give 1,000,000,000 to 1.22 billion to another 4,000,000,000 to another. I managed to find their actual cost of what it costs them to make the 10 most popular drugs in America. Listen carefully. This isn't likely. This is a very important part of this puzzle. Celebrex, 100 milligrams. You pay a $130.27. Then pay for the cost of the generic active ingredient from the same 100 capsules, 60¢. Their markup, 21,712% markup. Then you have Claritin, 10 milligrams. Consumer pays $215.17. Their cost in a month is 30,306% mark up. I'll skip some that are lower in the 8,000, 10000%. Let me go to Norvex, 10 milligrams, $188.29, you pay, they pay 14 pennies. 14p, that's a 134,493% markup. Then Prevacid, 30 milligrams, $344.77. They get dollar 1, that's 34,136 markup. Oh, and let us know, Prilosec, 20 milligrams, $360.97. They paid 52¢, 69,417%. But I say the glass 2 for best. Here, Prozac. We've all heard of Prozac. Twenty milligrams. $247.47. They pay 11¢. 11¢. 224,973% back up? I'm sorry. I don't mean to interrupt. Or maybe I do. But there are many other people who Okay. I'll finish. I'll place you on my list. Okay. Alright. And finally, Xanax. One milligram of Xanax cost you a $136.79, they pay 2¢. 569,009 158% markup. So what we have is we have some extreme profit, more than any other industry, more than any other products I'm aware of, were from people who have committed massive crimes against humanity and gotten a clean bill of health for it, who are telling us to believe that their vaccines are safe and effective. They have no double blind placebo controlled studies. They're willing to allow the most vulnerable amongst us, the children pregnant and seniors, to get this vaccine. I am not opposed to any vaccine that can be shown to be safe and effective. I am opposed to science that is so faulty, so written with inconsistencies and contradictions that they're not allowing to open the bait between those of us who do this look at the spot signs and they proclaim to me. This is not a secret. This is a full view of the public. I'm concerned that we do not allow people in our society of freedom of choice. Democracy is about freedom of choice. You can believe any religion is the right one, any job you want, any political party. Why can't you have the same right of choice about your body and your health? I am a healthy American, and I do not want, as a healthy American, a toxic drug in my body. To me, that's a violation of my constitutional rights as well as just decency and ethics. Thank you very much. Can you point us to I mean, I guess, repeat the question that Speaker 1: I put to, Louis Conte and and, John Gilmore. Can you point me to a systematic review of the safety of either the flu vaccine or Speaker 0: I can, sir. I gave the woman at the door a 10 copies of a 100 page review no. There's a c a a CD there. It's a 100 pages with 207 scientific references, No editorializing, pure science, a review of the safety and efficacy studies of the swine flu and the flu vaccines only. Nothing else mentioned. And it is complete. Only peer reviewed literature was used and let you have a copy of it. Speaker 1: And Who did the systematic review? Speaker 0: A group of researchers, myself included. Peoples with backgrounds in elective biology and, internal medicine and virology. Okay. And that Speaker 2: that would be your your reference then? Speaker 0: That is the reference. Yes, sir. And I might mention I keep hearing everyone say the expert panel agreed that there was no connection. I heard it earlier in the day between, Vaccines and autism, but I had to actually go to the, research, and I found that that was absolutely not true. In fact, of the members of the panel of that vaccine oversight committee, 13 members of the committee said that there was a connection. They had no vaccine or vaccine or drug company affiliation. The small percentage said there was not a connection. All had vaccine or drug company affiliations, And I'm surprised that information has not been made available. I also have all the studies on the sicknesses that children have developed when they've taken the flu vaccines, And all these are from separate, separate stems. They're all peer reviewed.

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Under oath and clueless. PART 1

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Watch Dr. Teresa Holtrop who is President of the Michigan American Academy of Pediatrics questioned under oath, about her knowledge of the ingredients in the products she so vehemently defends. It did not go well. Ask yourself if she doesn’t know and she is the head pediatrician in Michigan, how much does your pediatrician know about what they are arrogantly injecting into your child? This should be a wake up call.

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Speaker 0 suggests that a child who hasn't received any immunizations will have to endure six injections at once. Speaker 1 confirms that a six-month-old would receive DTaP, polio, and Hep B vaccines. Speaker 0 mentions that the type of Hep B vaccine depends on previous sessions. The same applies to a two-and-a-half-year-old. Speaker 1 questions why aluminum adjuvants are used in vaccines, to which Speaker 0 replies that they make the vaccine more effective. Speaker 1 asks about the form of aluminum and its effects, but Speaker 0 is unsure. They discuss the quantity of ingested and injected aluminum, but Speaker 0 believes the amount in vaccines is safe. Speaker 1 questions the ability of aluminum to cross the blood-brain barrier, but Speaker 0 is unaware. They also discuss antigens, macrophages, and vaccine ingredients, but Speaker 0 lacks specific knowledge. The conversation ends with Speaker 1 asking about family history factors and the type of polio vaccine used in the US. Speaker 0 provides some clarification.
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Speaker 0: I have a suggestion. Speaker 1: Oh, wonderful. Speaker 0: Because it'll be impressive enough. The fact that this child has not gotten any immunizations previously means this poor child will have to be tortured with 6 different injections at the same time. And if you would like to put those 6 up at the one visit, at her 1st visit to get all these immunizations, I'm happy to do that. Speaker 1: A child at their 6 months shot, they would receive DTaP. Correct? Speaker 0: Correct? Speaker 1: They will receive polio. Speaker 0: Correct. Speaker 1: Hep b. Speaker 0: Correct. Yes. Hep? It depends. It depends on the product that was used in the first 2 sessions. Same same issue with catching up Speaker 1: Two and a half year old, right. Same choice. Speaker 0: Same choice. Yeah. In this case, yes. Speaker 1: And at excuse me, at two and a half years of age you're saying getting 6 vaccines is torture, but a 6 month old would have to receive. We just counted 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 vaccines. Correct? Vaccines. Correct? Aluminum adjunants are using vaccines. Correct? Speaker 0: Correct. Speaker 1: Why are the aluminum adjunants using vaccines? Speaker 0: Because they make the vaccine more effective. Speaker 1: Okay. And how do they do that? Speaker 0: I don't know. Speaker 1: Okay. What's an antigen? Speaker 0: An antigen is a typically a protein that, in this case, it would be if you're talking about vaccines, an antigen is, a protein that causes a reaction? And oftentimes, is an an infectious agent, not always? Speaker 1: Isn't it true that an adjuvant will only will not only bind to the target antigen That's in the vaccine, but also, to the impurities and byproducts such as the animal and human parts left in the vaccine or the manufacturing process? Speaker 0: You're asking me specifics about physiology, that I am not that's not my area of expertise. Speaker 1: But I'm There is okay. So you're not aware that there's a difference between the form of aluminum. Speaker 0: So when it's ingested, Speaker 1: it's taken up an ionic form. Speaker 0: When it's injected, It's in these nano particle forms and Speaker 1: in contrast injected aluminum is our nano particles, correct? They're there to create an irritant to the immune system so that the the vaccine creates antibodies. And so they're actually these nanoparticles that are in the vaccine, right, or do not know? Speaker 0: You're talking about specifics that are are very detailed. Speaker 1: Are the are the details important? I mean, you you said that Speaker 0: Not in this case because we're talking about a metal. It is not concerning to me because the amount of aluminum that we ingest in general are just through our diet is much higher than what we get through vaccines, there's no reason to believe that that amount, that additional small amount is anything to be Speaker 1: So you said that the Quantity of ingested aluminum is small or, excuse me, is is much larger in the Speaker 0: amount of injected aluminum and therefore, you deem it safe. Correct. Speaker 1: Are you aware that the, Speaker 0: this FDA provides that in terms of ingesting ingested the lignin, Speaker 1: 0.3 3% or less is actually taken up by the blood. Do you know that or not? I it's Speaker 0: just I don't know the exact numbers. Speaker 1: And that it is, it's taken up in ionic form. Do you understand what I mean? Speaker 0: I understand what you mean by that. Speaker 1: In its in its smallest Elemental form, that's what's taken into the blood. Right? Speaker 0: Correct. Speaker 1: And and aluminum and ionic form is not able to cross the blood brain barrier. Correct? I am not aware that that's true. You're Speaker 0: I am not aware that that's true. Speaker 1: You don't know? Speaker 0: I don't know that that's true. Speaker 1: Okay. If you don't know, that's fine. And antigens bound to aluminum are taken up by macrophages. Correct? Speaker 0: Yes. Okay. Speaker 1: And macrophages Present the stuff they gobble up to the parts of the immune system that create antibodies. Correct? Speaker 0: I believe so. I don't I have not studied the actual mechanism of action. Speaker 1: And they also traveled to different parts of the body including the brains. Correct? Speaker 0: Correct? Speaker 1: And they'll deposit the materials they gobble up there. They didn't show that most package inserts for most vaccines report, encephalitis or encephalopathy as a reported adverse event from vaccination? Speaker 0: I would have to look at all the package inserts to be able to say yes or no to that. It is possible. Yes. Do any of the vaccines in the child who's had Speaker 1: will contain monkey kidney cells? Speaker 0: I do not know. Speaker 1: Blood serum from cows? Speaker 0: I do not know. Speaker 1: Do you need pig cell cultures? Speaker 0: I do not know. Speaker 1: Gelatin from pigs and cows? Speaker 0: I don't know. Speaker 1: MRC 5 human diploid cells? Speaker 0: MRC five through the diploid subject. Those are specifics that I typically to Speaker 1: the Are you aware that MRC 5 diploid cells are cells cultured from the lung tissue at a porta fetus? Speaker 0: I am aware that there are 2 vaccines out on the market. The MMR and the VCV that have, that use a cell in the production of it used a cell line, from aborted fetuses from 1962 and 1966. Those are the only to aborted fetus tissue cell lines that are used? Speaker 1: Isn't it true that there actually is recently been a new Cell line. Human cell line from a border fetal tissue that's been approved Speaker 0: for use in that case. I'm not aware of that. And none of those None of Speaker 1: the aborted fetal tissue culture cell lines actually end up in the vaccine product. Speaker 0: The vaccine doesn't have cells in it. Speaker 1: The cellular pieces from the aborted Speaker 0: That is potentially possible. Yes. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that in fact there is More of that cellular debris in the MMR for example and there is actually antigen. Speaker 0: I don't know. Speaker 1: Okay. Isn't it true that, that the, Havrix hepatitis a vaccine Have they have they have they say vaccine contains millions of fragments of human DNA? Speaker 0: Possible? I don't know. Speaker 1: Doctor, isn't it true that the Varivax, the chickenpox vaccine contains approximately 1 trillion fragments of human DNA? Speaker 0: Again, if doctor Plotkin says it does, then I will agree. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that these 74 aborted fetuses Had almost every piece of their bodies including skin, tongue, and heart cut into little cubes to be used for culture. Speaker 0: I'm not aware of any studies that doctor Plotkin the specifics of any studies that doctor Plotkin did. Speaker 1: What principles Both and methods that you do rely upon in reaching your opinion regarding vaccine safety. Speaker 0: I use the, again, the recommendations of the CDC and the American, the, advisory committee on immunization practices and the American Academy of Pediatrics to make form an opinion about the vaccine safety? Speaker 1: So your basis so I'm gonna say the principle methods that you relied upon in reaching your opinion regarding Vaccine safety and vaccine efficacy are what the CDC recommends and And your claim that you've seen some people die of some diseases that for which there are vaccinations. Is that correct? Correct. That's the sum total. Right? Speaker 0: And the American Academy of Pediatrics recommendations. Speaker 1: K. Speaker 2: So when you're looking at a patient and making the Determination as to what vaccines they should receive. What family history factors are concerning to you? Speaker 0: One of the big family history factors that I would take into consideration is is there, a history of anybody who's immune suppressed? Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the only polio vaccine used in the United States is an activated polio vaccine which is injected muscle? Speaker 0: It's an inactivated poliovirus vaccine. Right. And it's injected in muscle tissue. Speaker 1: Correct. Okay. Versus what we used to be using Speaker 0: the bone. Actually, it's not into the muscle tissue. It's given sub q

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Under oath and clueless Part 2

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The fine people over at @HighWireTalk brought this to my attention as a follow up to the post I’ve included below. In this clip Dr. Teresa Holtrop, at the time the President of the Michigan AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) discusses her knowledge and understanding of childhood vaccines, the CDC’s recommended childhood vaccine schedule, and vaccine safety and policy in the U.S. Keep in mind she is an “expert witness”. This doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. I will be posting a longer portion of this cross-examination soon that was kindly provided to me by The High Wire so you can experience it for yourself.

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Speaker 0 admits to not knowing how vaccines are made more effective or having any knowledge about vaccine manufacturers. They also state that they are not aware of any other agencies involved in vaccination. When asked about the IOM (Institute of Medicine), Speaker 0 is not familiar with its recent name change or its purpose. They repeatedly emphasize that this is not their area of expertise and they cannot comment on it. Speaker 0 also mentions not knowing the exact numbers and being unreliable in the party for immunizations.
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Speaker 0: Because they make the vaccine more effective. Speaker 1: And how do they do that? Speaker 0: I don't know. I don't know off the top of my head now. I would say I don't know. I don't recall. I do not know anything about it. Speaker 1: Okay. So you don't you don't know the manufacturers for any of those things? Do you know anything about them? Speaker 0: No. I have no idea. I don't I'm not aware of that. I have no idea. I don't know. I I haven't looked at it. I don't know. I Don't know this for a fact. I have no specific knowledge of Speaker 1: Are there any other agencies that you're aware of under DHHS that are involved in Vaccination. Speaker 0: Not off the top of my head. I am not sure. No. That's Oh, I see what it says. I'm sorry. I would not know the specifics. Yeah. I don't know the details of that. What Speaker 1: do you understand IOM stands for? Speaker 0: The IOM Institute of Medicine. Speaker 1: Which recently changed its name. Right? Speaker 0: I have no idea. I'm not aware of that. Uh-huh. I'm not I'm not familiar with that. Okay. No. I am not familiar with it. I don't know. That's not my area of expertise. I have no idea if that's true or not. I wouldn't know. This is not my area of expertise. I do not know. I do not know. I do not know. I Don't know. Speaker 1: I don't know. Speaker 0: I I I don't know. I'm not aware of that now. I'm not aware of that. That's not my area of expertise. I cannot comment on that. Not my area of expertise. Are you familiar with the Institute of Madison at all? I'm familiar with it. Yes. Can you explain briefly what it is? I I can't. I I I'm not aware of that. I I don't know the exact numbers. Do you do Speaker 1: you consider yourself more reliable in the party Speaker 0: to take the whole hospital? On immunizations? Yes. No.

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Full Testimony

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Here it is, the full cross-examination of Dr. Teresa Holtrop who at the time was the President of the Michigan AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) , the states top Pediatrician. Aaron Siri [@AaronSiriSG] does a masterful job at exposing how little she actually knows about the products she recommends to families on a daily basis. Some Observations. - Watch her demeanor when he begins his questioning. She becomes very exasperated multiple times during the questioning. - She says “I don’t know” at least 42 times to questions she should know the answer to. - The arrogance is always there with her. Even when faced with information she should know. - The blind trust she exhibits in the CDC is disgraceful. She is clearly just a “yes man”. - It abundantly is clear she hasn’t really read the literature and that says a lot about the AAP’s decision to allow her to be President of the Michigan Chapter. I don’t know how anyone can watch this, even the proponents of the childhood schedule and come away confident in our public health institutions. The conflicts of interests Aaron covers with the AAP, CDC and medical journals do not phase her in the least and that is the core of this massive problem. It’s absolutely scandalous. Thank you to @HighWireTalk for sending this my way so I can highlight what the government and its industry “partners” undoubtedly want kept in the dark.

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In this video, the speakers cover a range of topics related to vaccines and vaccine safety. They discuss the reliability of various organizations as sources of vaccine information, including the CDC, FDA, and HHS, which Dr. Hochul considers trustworthy. The conversation also touches on the Institute of Medicine (IOM) and its publications, with Dr. Hochul admitting she does not rely on them for vaccine information. The speakers debate the efficacy and safety of vaccines, with one speaker relying on CDC recommendations and personal experiences, while the other questions the reliability of the information provided. They discuss the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and its limitations, as well as the use of aborted fetal tissue in vaccine development and the presence of substances in vaccines. Dr. Holter explains the use of cell lines in vaccine manufacturing and clarifies that no new aborted cells are added. He also addresses concerns about aluminum in vaccines, stating that the amount ingested through diet is higher than what is received through vaccines. The importance of reporting adverse events to VAERS is emphasized, and the discussion concludes with considerations for vaccine recommendations based on family history factors and the differences between ingested and injected aluminum.
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Speaker 0: Good Morning doctor Hochul. Good morning. Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. What do you understand the CDC stand for? Speaker 2: The Center For Disease Control. Speaker 1: And do you consider its publications and website a reliable authority for information regarding vaccines? Speaker 2: I do. Speaker 1: And what do you understand the FDA's stand for? Speaker 2: The Food and Drug Administration. Speaker 1: Do you consider the FDA's Publications and website of reliable authority for information regarding vaccines? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: What do you understand HHS or DHHS to stand for? Speaker 2: Department of Health and Human Services. Speaker 1: And, do you consider the HHS's publications and its agencies to be reliable authorities with regard to vaccination? Speaker 2: Typically, yes. But they don't typically they they I'm sorry. The DHHS does not I mean, they do it through the CDC. Speaker 1: And and and they threw because CDC is an agency under Speaker 2: DHHS. Yes. Speaker 0: Are there Speaker 1: any other agencies under DHHS that are involved in vaccination that you're Speaker 2: well, there's the American the the the advisory committee on immunization practices which is an advisory committee to the CDC. Speaker 1: Okay. Are there any other agencies that you're aware of under DHHS that are involved in vaccination? Speaker 2: Not off the top of my head. Speaker 1: Are you aware of which agency within DHHS is responsible for licensing vaccines? Speaker 2: I believe it is the Food and Drug Administration. Speaker 1: Are you aware of which agencies responsible for administering the vaccine injury compensation program? Speaker 2: It's VAERS. Vaccine ad, it's it's it's an aid that's all I know is VAERS. Speaker 1: The name of the agency do you know the name of that agent? Speaker 2: I don't know off the top of my head. No. Speaker 1: What do you understand the IOM to stand for? Speaker 2: The IOM Institute of Medicine. Speaker 1: Which recently changed its name. Right? Speaker 2: I have no idea. Okay. Speaker 1: And are you are you familiar with the Institute of Medicine? Speaker 2: I am. Speaker 1: K. Do you consider the IOM's publications reliable authority Regarding vaccination? Speaker 2: There can sometimes be some difference of opinion between 1 in one authority and another. Speaker 1: Right. Right. I mean Speaker 2: It is not an institute that we go to for vaccine information. Speaker 1: So the Institute of Medicine, You're not aware of their prior publication regarding vaccination? Speaker 2: When I look for vaccine information In terms of safety and recommendations as to how to handle immunizations in children, I go to the CDC. Speaker 1: Okay. And and you said that experts can disagree. Surely they can. Experts who are reliable authorities On both sides of an issue can certainly disagree at times. Correct? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: Yes. But, that doesn't make either one not a reliable Authority on an issue. Right? Speaker 0: Who would object? She's already answered about the IOM. He's trying to get her to say that it's a reliable authority to impeach her with her Run it. She's coaching Speaker 1: the witness. Sir. Completely inappropriate, your honor. He's just answered the question. Inappropriate to coach the Completely inappropriate, your honor. Speaker 0: He's just answered the question. Speaker 1: Completely inappropriate to coach the witness Okay. In our objection. Speaker 0: Alright. Stop. Your objection is what? That he's tracked she's asked the answer. She's answered the question as to how she feels about the Institute of Medicine and whether I I don't think she did answer that. I'm gonna Overruled. So ask the question, please. And You've made your record Speaker 1: respectfully request that speaking objections that coach witness or not? Speaker 0: I will rule on the objection as they as they appear. Thank you, your honor. Speaker 1: So, we we were at we were talking about whether or not reasonable experts experts who are in the field can disagree about things. Right? Speaker 0: Is that a yes or no? Speaker 2: Yes. I'm sorry. Yes. Speaker 1: And the Institute of Medicine is comprised of leaders in their respective fields, in medicine. Right? Including Nobel Prize winners? Speaker 2: I have not studied the Institute of Medicine. It is not a source that I go to for information around immunizations. Speaker 1: Would you consider it a reliable authority though? Speaker 2: I would say I don't know. Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself a reliable authority to help the whole child? Speaker 2: On immunizations? Yes. No. I go and ask I look for information from others as to what to do and that is what we are taught to do in pediatrics. Okay. Speaker 1: And and and so who do you look to for information regarding immunization? Speaker 2: The Center For Disease Control and the ACIP. Speaker 1: The Advisory Committee Immunization Practices? Speaker 0: Yes. Speaker 1: And those are the only authority that you rely upon? Speaker 2: For this information, yes. Speaker 1: And And you wouldn't consider any other governmental or non governmental organization that studies this topic to be a reliable authority? Speaker 2: I guess the answer is no. Speaker 1: You know or you don't know? Speaker 2: The answer is no. I I'm not sure where you're Speaker 0: going with this. If I had Speaker 2: a better sense of what you're trying to Speaker 1: I'm just asking you to answer truthfully and understand Speaker 0: how to answer. Yes, no, or you don't know? No. Okay. No. Speaker 2: I would not go anywhere else. Speaker 1: Would your answer change Based on whether where you knew I was going with this, would that cancer Speaker 2: So here's here's my thought process. If the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services came along and said such and such is happening around this and this vaccine, I would certainly pay attention to what they are saying and probably follow their guidelines. On the assumption that they are following recommendations from the CDC and and the, advisory committee on immunization practices. I admit I'm making an assumption here that MDHHS is trustworthy in that. Speaker 1: Right. Because and they're relying on what CDC and ACIP are deciding. Correct. Speaker 0: Okay. Speaker 1: What is the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986? Speaker 2: It is the the act that established an entity to which, reports could be made about ad vaccine related, adverse events. Speaker 1: And and it's also the act that granted vaccine manufactured immunity from liability for Correct. Injuries caused by vaccines. Correct? Speaker 0: Correct. Speaker 1: When you serve with the subpoena, to appear in a deposition in this case in February 6, 2018 I'm Speaker 0: going to object. The court's already ruled on It is on the permissibility of the deposition whether or not she's been served with a subpoena is completely inappropriate. Oh, how was that? Ask about that. Speaker 1: I just wanna establish that she wasn't disposed. You deposed can I just ask you who's opposing the case? Speaker 0: Sure. That's all I'll ask. Sure. Speaker 1: Were you deposed in this case? Speaker 2: No. Okay. Thanks. Speaker 1: Did you discuss your anticipated test anticipated testimony today with anybody? Speaker 2: With, Laura, I need, You I can never pronounce your name. With the attorney. Newsma. Speaker 1: Anybody else? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: How did you first learn about this lawsuit? Speaker 2: So the American Academy of Pediatrics is broken up into districts and we are part of district 5. It was the chair of district 5 who sent an email to, several of us at the MIAAP key talking about the fact that there is a case and could somebody help out. As it turned out it happened to be in the area that I live in. And since I do have some, experience in the area of immunizations, I volunteered. Speaker 0: Don't don't say where you live. Okay. Speaker 1: And, And who sent that that email from AAT? Speaker 2: Doctor Rick Tuck. Speaker 1: Okay. And and what what did What was your understanding of who is specifically, asking for? Speaker 2: Somebody to assistance for somebody to be able to, Testify on behalf of the importance of immunizations in childhood. Speaker 1: Okay. So after you got that email, what's the next step you talked in order. Speaker 0: Counsel, can you just speak up a little bit please? Sure. Speaker 2: Thank you. Speaker 1: Well well, after you receive that email what's the next step you took that led you toward being here today on the stand? Speaker 2: I actually contacted some colleagues of mine to see if there were was anybody within the infectious disease world of those that I knew who might be interested in in, testifying. Speaker 1: And who did you contact? Speaker 2: I contacted Doctor. Eric McGrath, Doctor. Bassim Osmar. Trying to think who else. I think those were the 2 primary ones. Speaker 1: Anybody else you remember? Speaker 2: Not that I remember right now. Speaker 1: And and do you understand why they didn't wanna testify or did Speaker 2: We never discussed it. We just said no. Speaker 1: Understood. So after that, what's the next step that you took in order to become an expert in this case? Did you did you reach out to somebody to say, hey. I'm willing to be an expert. What is it that you did next? Speaker 2: I did. Speaker 1: Okay. And Speaker 0: who to Speaker 2: whom's that? Contacted the lawyer form like Schmidt. Speaker 1: Directly. Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember exactly the process and I don't recall whether it was directly to the lawyer or whether it was to Mike Schmidt To himself. Speaker 1: That's great. And and how did you get that information? Speaker 2: It was passed on to me through, doctor Rick Tuck. Speaker 1: Oh oh, from the American Academy of Pediatrics. Speaker 0: Okay. Is that a yes? Speaker 2: Yes. I'm sorry. Speaker 0: It's okay. Speaker 1: Did you review any documents prepared to testify today? Speaker 2: I reviewed the documents about, the CDC recommendations, the ACIP schedule of immunizations, the VIS sheets, and the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services information that had been sent to me in February from the folks at MDHHS, which I received without having requested it. Speaker 1: And those are the only documents you reviewed hard to take. Correct? Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 1: You've never seen any of Faith's medical records. Correct? Speaker 2: No. I have never seen any of her medical records. Speaker 1: And you don't know anything about her medical history. Speaker 2: I do not know anything about her medical condition. Speaker 1: Now, earlier I believe, You were being asked about what you would do to vaccinate a 2a half year old child who received no vaccines. Correct? Speaker 0: Mhmm. Speaker 1: Can we go through what vaccines you would recommend? Speaker 0: Remember to leave. Keep your voice up. Speaker 1: Thank you, your honor. It Speaker 0: might be better if you if you work from the podium because the mic is closer but It's up to you. That's great. Speaker 1: Let's, if you could kindly, Doctor Haltrow, list the vaccines that you believe a 2a half year old child should receive? Speaker 2: If a 2a half year old child has not received any previous immunizations, She would be due for the DTAP, polio, hepatitis b, measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox vaccine, pneumococcal vaccine, haemophilus influenza type The vaccine. Hepatitis a. Did I say hepatitis b already? Speaker 0: Yeah. Speaker 2: I I have to write it down in order to not miss anything. Speaker 1: You know what? I think we can help with that. Why don't we I think we can put a demonstrative out so we Lay out all of the vaccines just so we can keep track of them as we go forward. Speaker 0: We don't really If you wanna do that, you can set that up at some other time, but I just want you to proceed. Yeah. I'll I don't wanna break for this. Speaker 1: I won't break for that at all, Donna. I'll just keep going. So okay. So, hepatitis a? Yes. Any others? Speaker 2: Hepatitis a, hepatitis b. Uh-huh. Chicken pox vaccine, which is the VZV. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: MMR. Speaker 0: Uh-huh. Speaker 2: DTAP. Yep. Polio, hid, pneumococcal vaccine Do I have them all? I think I have them all. Thank you. Speaker 1: Well, we're going over the same ones. I think you did. Okay. Great. And then can you tell me the number, of doses for DTaP? Speaker 2: Well, at two and a half years of age, if she's never gotten another, a previous Michael Cherny. Speaker 1: We Why Speaker 0: would you why why do you wanna put it right here? Speaker 1: They're not there. Speaker 0: I'm sorry. How many? DTEF? Speaker 2: For in order to be fully immunized she will need a total of, Three doses at this age. Okay. Speaker 1: And how many doses of polio? Speaker 2: She will need a total of It depends a little bit. There's a delayed immunization schedule and it would be a wise idea to look at that to be sure. Juana, normally she would've gotten 3 doses by now with a 4th dose after the 4th birthday. If there is By the time they get to their 4th birthday, if they haven't gotten the first 3, then sometimes they get by with 2 before. It gets really How are 3? It's you should have gotten 3 of that baby. 3. Speaker 1: And Hep D? Speaker 2: Hep D, she needs to have had 3. MMR? Speaker 0: She will Speaker 2: have gotten 1 and she will get get her 2nd one, after the 4th birthday. Although it can be given earlier. Speaker 1: Chicken packs? Speaker 2: Chicken packs the same thing. Speaker 1: Mendedococcal, which would be PCV 13? Would that be the same? Speaker 2: No. It's not the same thing. PCV 13 is the pneumococcal AQUA vaccine. And again that 1, I double checked because there is a difference depending on what age you get it. The Hib I always think of it as the same as the Hib vaccine. The Hib vaccine, if she has not gotten a previous dose of it and she's now over 15 months of age, she only needs one. If I'm not mistaken, the same is true for the pneumococcal vaccine. I always double check myself on that because it has gotten so complicated. Speaker 1: It's So one for you and Coppell? Speaker 2: I believe so. And one for him. Speaker 1: And and and you believe she one for him. Speaker 2: Yes. I know one for him. She should have 2. 6 months apart. Speaker 1: And hepatitis b? Speaker 2: She should have 3. They're given the first one, the next one is a month later, and the next 1 is 6 months after the first one. And PCV 13? PCV 13 is like the hip. That's the pneumococcal vaccine. So one I believe it's just 1 shot that she needs. That's the one I would need to double check on. Speaker 1: Can you tell me the, and and you've administered all of these hundreds of times. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And and they all come in packaging I assume? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And there's a product insert inside the packaging? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And then the name of the product that's on the box? Correct. And the manufacturers on the box. Speaker 2: And the lot number. Speaker 1: And the lot number. And you record that information? Speaker 2: Absolutely. Speaker 1: Right. Who so, can you tell me, the Can you please take a look at this cut out of a child? And can you tell me if this looks approximately the size of a 2 and a half year old child? Speaker 2: It does. Speaker 1: So, for the, hepatitis, B vaccine, you indicated that there's 3 doses. Can you tell me the brand names and the Speaker 2: I can't tell you the man manufacturer. And It depends on which again this is not something that I look at all that closely because I use whatever we are provided with By the vaccine for, the VFC program primarily. Speaker 1: Vaccines are products. Right? Speaker 2: The vaccine product. Yeah. I mean, there's Speaker 0: Go ahead, miss Sarah. Speaker 2: We we receive the package of the package of vaccines from the CDC's distribution site. And that's what I will use. I don't bother to try and memorize the vaccine manufacturer. Speaker 1: Okay. So you don't you don't know the manufacturers for any of the vaccines? Speaker 0: She doesn't have it memorized. Speaker 2: I don't have it memorized. That's right. I'm not sure what The need for that is Okay. Speaker 0: So you've asked for that. No. Know that. Speaker 1: And and do you know the the product names for any of them? Speaker 2: Some of them. Yeah. Speaker 1: Okay. Which ones do you know? Speaker 2: Pediarix is a combination vaccine. For Hepatitis B I want to say there's Engerix. But again, this is not something that I spend a lot of time trying to memorize because it's pointless. Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who manufacture. Speaker 2: It doesn't. Speaker 0: What what do we The Speaker 2: original exhibits, Ron, are those Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Are those still in there? Speaker 0: I I don't know where your exhibits are. Okay. Speaker 1: May I approach with this Shawn or hander will has been previous address is the 2 u u? Yes. Thank you, Speaker 0: Excuse me. The exhibits were left here on on the clerk's chair from the last time The one that you left here. My copies. No. The witness's copies. I I don't know. That's true. I I don't know. Okay. I approach it. Mhmm. This is her. Speaker 1: Have you seen this document before, doctor Hultraub? Speaker 2: I have seen similar documents, not this particular one. Speaker 1: Do you see that it provides that it's from the Centers For Disease Control? Speaker 2: I see that. Yes. Speaker 1: And you see that it lists each vaccine including by manufacturer and product names? Speaker 2: Yes. I see that. Speaker 1: Great. For the hepatitis b vaccine which I believe you indicated, they've you indicated that a child of two and a half should receive 3 doses. Do you see who the manufacturers are? Speaker 2: It says GlaxoSmithKline and Merck. They're 2 different manufacturers. Speaker 1: Okay. And and who, and what is the product name for the Merck product? Speaker 2: It's Recombivax HB. Speaker 1: And for The GSA? Engerix B. So, So, we're and where would you where would you approximately where would you, give these 3 back doses to the child. Speaker 0: So first of all, relevance of where she would administer the dosage. Her expertise in where vaccines are administered is not A question for the court today? Speaker 1: Your honor, she she she testified as to vaccine safety. This is all leading up to safety, your honor. She had testified about adverse reactions. You testified that the child she's who said herself 6 Speaker 0: I'll allow it. Go ahead. Speaker 1: I mean Speaker 2: Overrule. She would not get 6 are 3 doses of hepatitis b on the same day. Speaker 1: Right. You have to you would space them out over a period of time. Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Absolutely. And over time though, But you would recommend they receive 3 injections of 3 doses of hepatitis b. Correct? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: Okay. And, would it be? Okay. And and these so hepatitis b, this I'm just I wanna keep track of all of that Okay. That we're gonna talk about. This way, you you know, this way, you don't you said before you can't keep track. We'll just we'll put them all up. And this way as we go through this, we can point to this and we can go make sure we cover each one because each of these are separate product. Correct? Speaker 0: Correct. Speaker 1: Each of them have different ingredients. Correct? Correct. Each of them have different contraindications. Correct? Speaker 2: Overall, yes. Speaker 1: Okay. Each of them have a different, have different effects on the body, correct? Speaker 2: I would say Probably not that much different. Speaker 1: Okay. We'll go through that. Great. So, we'll put up the 3, hepatitis B's and then I believe you said for DTaP. You said, Doesn't matter. Arms, legs. That's where they would normally administer it. Right? Arms and legs, Doctor. Holteroff? Speaker 2: Certainly not down there. Speaker 0: Well, why don't we why don't we say Speaker 2: It is administered in the deltoid. Up here. Okay. There you go. Speaker 1: Okay. And, 3 doses of DTaP. Right? Speaker 2: Excuse me. If you're asking me what I would give on a given day, I don't think it is correct to put up 3 different doses of hepatitis B. I agree. Speaker 0: I am not I mean, I I know it's for a fact but it's it's not gonna help me. It's only gonna mean to confuse. She doesn't support giving a child revaccinations of the same Speaker 1: I'm not asking about that at all. Speaker 0: Okay. So Speaker 1: I'm asking just wanna understand the total number of doses that she's saying the 2 and a half year old child has received so we can represent We Speaker 0: have established that Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 0: Already. And you're asking to do the demonstrative. Speaker 1: So we can keep track as we go along. Speaker 0: Well, no. I think what you're trying to do is put a bunch of stickers up there to show me how many in total. You don't need to do that. And So what she's saying is she wouldn't do it all at once. So put 1 up there. How's that? Then if you wanna do 3 different Times of how many she'll receive each time, that would that's that's fine. Sure. I I don't think you need that. But if that's important to you, then you go ahead and do That Speaker 1: we just do it like that. You're on us. We know that Speaker 0: we can keep track of this 3 doses at the time. You put 1 up there at once because that's what she's testifying. Sure. That's what she's comfortable with. And you're using her her testimony to do to your your display. Speaker 1: She said that the child received 3 HEPAV doses are on. Speaker 0: Not at once. Speaker 1: I'm is not well, we obviously can't put them all in the same spot. Speaker 0: You're right. Speaker 1: So and and it's not supposed to represent at one time. I'm I'm making explicitly clear this is not about one Fine. This is just so we can keep track of all doses that she believes a 2a half year old should receive Could be over you know, it's probably gonna take what Speaker 0: I I'm not gonna argue with you anymore about this. Speaker 1: Yes, your honor. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Speaker 2: I have a suggestion. Speaker 1: Oh, wonderful. Speaker 2: Because it'll be impressive enough. The fact that this child has not gotten any immunizations previously Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: Means this poor child will have to be tortured with 6 different injections at the same time. And if you would like to put those 6 up At the one visit, at her 1st visit to get all these immunizations, I'm happy to do that. Speaker 1: Doctor Voltra, at 2 months of age, how many injections does a child Speaker 2: Typically if we use a combination vaccine it is typically the DTaP polio hepatitis B, Then it is the pneumococcal and it is you usually can get by with 3. And then the oral, rotavirus. Speaker 1: And why can't you use the combination vaccine in this situation, doctor Paul? Speaker 2: You can't. Speaker 0: I'm saying with Stop. Stop. Stop. When I talk, everyone has to Everyone has to stop talking. Counsel, you can't lean down, crouch down with your voice directed towards the boss and expect it to be on the phone. Speaker 1: Thank you. And why can't you use a combination vaccine in this instance? Speaker 2: You can use a combination vaccine. I am telling you that if you use a combination, the combination vaccines that are available she will still need 6 immunizations all at once. Speaker 1: Okay. And what would those 6 be all at once? Speaker 2: It would be a combination of the DTAP polio hepatitis b if you wanted to use that one. There's another another combination one that you could also use. It would be the measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox vaccine. That is a combination one. Speaker 1: MMRV. Right? Speaker 2: MMRV. K. And that is it in terms of combination vaccines that are available. Speaker 1: And then what would the other 4 be that you need to receive? Speaker 2: She will need the, pneumococcal. She will need the Kib unless she uses a different, a a so backtrack a little bit. There is a combination which is DTaP polio and hepatitis b. There is also Pentacel which is DTaP polio and hip. In which case you would have to give the hepatitis b separately. Mhmm. There is a combination hepatitis a and b called Twinrix. So if you had that available, the problem is you can't use that until age 18. So we haven't used that. So your hepatitis a is separate. Your pneumococcal is separate. Your HIB is potentially separate. If not the HIB, then the hepatitis b is separate. Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's 5 shots. Right? Speaker 2: What am I leaving out? Oh, the flu vaccine. Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's going to be fine. And Okay. So a child, who goes in for their Six one shot. Which of these would they not need to receive? Speaker 2: It it depends completely on which one of these combination vaccines he or she received in the first, Speaker 0: Wait. Adam. There might be a better way to say it. Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll rephrase. Speaker 0: Okay. I'll rephrase Speaker 1: it on. Speaker 0: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Speaker 1: A child at their 6 month shop, They would receive DTaP. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: They would receive polio? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Hep B? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Pneumococcal? Yes. Pib? Speaker 2: It depends. It depends on the product that was used in the 1st 2 sessions. Speaker 1: Same same issue with catching up 2a half row. Right. Same same. Same choice. Speaker 2: Same choice. Yeah. In this case, yes. And Well, no. No. Remember if she's over 15 months then she only needs 1 dose of Hib and she needs 1 dose of pneumococcal vaccine. So it'll be less. Speaker 1: And and hepatitis a At 6 months? Speaker 2: At 6 months after the first if she well, wait a minute. At 6 months old, you don't get the hepatitis a. You get it at 12 months. Speaker 1: Okay. So it's so 6 vaccines at two and a half is torture. And at Excuse me. At two and a half years of age, you're saying getting 6 vaccines is torture, but a 6 month old would have to receive. We just counted 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 vaccines. Correct? Speaker 2: That's not Sir, you have me so confused at this point. Speaker 0: Hold on. Are we talking about pokes or vaccines? Some of them are combinations. Speaker 1: Think we're talking about injections. Number of actual injections. Speaker 0: Right. So she's saying your testimony was you think it's torture to do that to 2a half year old to have 6 different injections at once. Speaker 2: It is a balance between whether you do it and cause the pain versus you don't do it and then put this child at risk. And typically we will go ahead and do it and I have done it. Okay. Speaker 1: And how many Hoax, would there be at 6 months of age in a routine checkup during flu season? Speaker 2: In a routine 6 month old. Okay. Depending on how many what product they got in the at the 2 month and at the 4 month visit. It it isn't relevant for this child. Speaker 1: I'm asking how many folks doctor Haltrow? Speaker 2: It depends on whether she got the combination that had the HIB in it, that isn't required at 6 months or she got the one that is required at 6 months. There are 2 different hid products. And one of them is given the is given at 2 months, 4 months, and then at, 12 months. And whereas the other 2 products are given at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months and then at 12 to 15 months. Speaker 1: So how many folks doctor Holter up at 6 months? Either 2 or 3. And what would the 3 be? Speaker 0: She just testified to that. Speaker 1: I I I'm I'm not clear what the 3 would be. Speaker 0: I know. And it's because you're talking to your co counsel and getting other things out of boxes. So if she states it one more time, please write it down and listen to it so we don't have to do this over and over. Speaker 2: Okay. On the assumption that at 2 months and at 4 months she received the Pediarix vaccine, which is the DTAP, hepatitis b and polio. She would then at the 2 month visit also have received the, pneumococcal vaccine as well as the Hib vaccine, and the oral, Rotavirus vaccine. But we can skip the oral one because that's not necessary. At 4 months, she would have gotten d t a she would have gotten the Pediarix again even though the hepatitis b is not needed. Since she started with the pediatrics, we would have given the pediatrics at the 4 month visit. So she would get the same thing all over again. And then if she If the the Hib vaccine that she received at 2 months and at 4 months was the PBX, At the 6 month visit she would get the Pediarix, DTaP, hepatitis b, and polio. She would get the, the pneumococcal vaccine and that would be it. If it was in season. Correct. And that's the earliest that she can get the flu vaccine at 6 months. Speaker 1: Who manufactures the, DTaP vaccine? Speaker 2: Well, if you're looking at the combination vaccine, one of them is made by GlaxoSmithKline, another one of them is made by Sanofi. Speaker 1: And who manufactured the vaccine? Speaker 2: Hold on a minute. Okay. Yeah. And those and there are 2 versions of the DTaP That's not a combination vaccine. 1 made by Sanofi and the other one by GlaxoSmithKline. Hib is made by Sanofi, GlaxoSmithKline and then Merck makes the one that's the The where you only need the 2 doses in the 1st 6 months. Speaker 1: And who makes PCD 13? PCD 13 is made by, Speaker 2: Pfizer. Speaker 1: And the, inactivated polio vaccine, who manufactures that? Speaker 2: Sanofi. Speaker 1: And who manufactures a flu vaccine that would be appropriate for a 2 year old to receive? Speaker 2: Okay. So the one that is appropriate There's one put out by GlaxoSmithKline. There's one put out by Sanofi. Speaker 1: And the MMR vaccine, he manufactured that? Where? He manufactures the varicella vaccines? Speaker 2: Work. He Speaker 1: manufactures the hepatitis a vaccines. Speaker 2: There's 1 put out by, GlaxoSmithKline and another one put out by Merck. Speaker 1: Is it okay if we refer to GlaxoSmithKline as GSK today? Correct. Great. Speaker 2: Yeah. That's right. Speaker 1: So every vaccine that the CDC every vaccine that that the CDC recommends that you're saying a 2 and a half year old should be administered, was produced by either Merck, Sanofi, GSK, or Pfizer. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And the number of vaccines recommended for children of age 2 has more than doubled since 19 eighties. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: K. Are you aware that Merck's total revenue from vaccine sales in 2016 was over $5,700,000,000? No. Are you aware that Sanofi's total revenue for vaccine sales in 2016 was over $4,500,000,000? No. Are you aware that GSK's total revenue from vaccine sales in 2016 was over $6,400,000,000? No. Are you aware that Pfizer's total revenue from vaccine sales in 2016 was over $6,000,000,000? Speaker 0: No. Speaker 1: Are you familiar with doctor Stanley Plotkin? Speaker 2: I've heard the name. Yes. Speaker 1: Yeah. How are you familiar with him? Speaker 2: He's He's mentioned in vaccine literature. Speaker 1: What literature is that? Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, he is a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics and has done stuff. I I I know the name. Do you know anything about him? No. Speaker 1: Okay. Were you aware that he was deposed as an expert for defending this action? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the textbooks used in medical schools regarding vaccines? Speaker 2: There is no one textbook used in medical school for vaccines. Speaker 1: Okay. What are the what are the various test vaccines used? Speaker 2: Currently in medical school what is used is basically resources that are published online by reputable sources. It's not a So Speaker 1: I'm just talking about multiple text books. Is there is there a text book regarding vaccinology that you're aware of? Speaker 2: What I'm saying is there is not 1 text book that we ever used in medical school when I was in medical school, and now even more so, folks aren't using textbooks and many of us have actually gotten rid of text because it is primarily stuff that is available online. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the American Academy of Pediatrics Sees. I'm realizing by 1,000,000 of dollars of donations from pharmaceutical companies including Pfizer, Merck, Glaxo, The TSK and Sanofi. Speaker 2: What I can tell you is that the American Academy of Pediatrics very carefully reviews whether the donations that they receive from any source as to potential conflicts of interest. Speaker 1: Do you wanna move to strike the answer non responsive? Speaker 0: Can I'm not gonna strike the answer. Speaker 1: Okay. It it I'll ask it again. Isn't it true that the AAP receives the American Academy of National Proceedings of the Alliance upon 1,000,000 of dollars of donations from pharmaceutical Companies including the 4 major vaccine manufacturers that we just went through. Speaker 2: I have no idea. Speaker 1: Would you consider information on the American American Academy of Pediatrics website to be a reliable authority? Speaker 2: I do. Speaker 1: And would you consider the a, The annual American Academy of Pediatrics giving report to be an available authority. Speaker 2: Are you referring to their form 990? Speaker 1: He said that their publications are allowed authority. So, your honor, May I approach? Speaker 0: Well, she asked you a question to try to clear up what your question was. So I Doctor Holteroff, what was that? Speaker 2: Are you referring to their form 990? Speaker 1: No. I'm not. I'm referring to a document called stepping forward two thousand 16th annual giving report, American Academy of Pediatrics. Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it. Speaker 1: K. Well, you would consider if it was published by the American Academy of Pediatrics, you would consider it a reliable authority? Speaker 2: I would. Speaker 1: Madam Clerk, Rona? Yes. Thank you. Could you please turn to the 2nd to last page? 2nd oh. Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Oh, the Speaker 1: 10th time, please. Speaker 2: Yes. Go ahead. Speaker 1: Let me know when you're at the second the last page. Okay. Okay. Thank you. In the 1st column, which list the largest corporate and foundation given, Foundation donors. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Do you see any vaccine any companies listed there that or or foundations that either manufacture vaccines or promote vaccination. Speaker 2: Merck is listed. Pfizer is listed. Speaker 1: Are you are you aware that Nestle? Speaker 2: Sanofi is listed. Speaker 1: Are you aware that AstraZeneca is involved in that vaccine development? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: And Johnson and Johnson is attempting to Speaker 2: I don't I'm not aware Speaker 1: of that. I don't know. And and foundations like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, they're also involved in promoting vaccines. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And the Connerty and Hilton Foundation? Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with the foundation but that's possible. Speaker 1: And and Nestle Nutrition is also involved in promoting vaccines. Correct? Vaccination? Speaker 2: I think of them more as a nutritional company. Speaker 1: Mostly, I think. Yes. Okay. Do you do you see any companies in that column called the Vaccine Choice Coalition? Speaker 2: I do not see it. No. Speaker 1: How about, how about, do you see the physicians for informed consent listed? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: How about the Vaccine Injury Bar Association? Are they listed? No. Isn't it true that a significant portion of the American Medical Associations revenue also comes from pharmaceutical companies? Speaker 2: I have I have no idea. Speaker 1: The American Medical Academy publishes numerous journals. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Okay. Over a dozen journals. Does that sound about right to you? Speaker 2: I don't know. Speaker 1: Okay. Are you aware that pharmaceutical companies are the primary advertisers in those journals? Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it. I could see that it might be true. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that journal revenue from pharmaceutical companies is nearly double the amount the American Academy of PDP American Medical Association collects in membership dues? Speaker 2: I don't know. Speaker 1: Okay. Can you name me a single group involved with promoting vaccines that does not receive any funding from any pharmaceutical company? Speaker 2: A single group that is involved in promoting vaccine that is not well, Southeast Michigan for, health association. They're involved in in trying to promote immunizations in Southeast Michigan and do not receive any donations from a pharmaceutical company? Speaker 0: What's the name of Speaker 1: the association? Speaker 2: SEMHA. Southeast Michigan Health Association. They happen to be our fiduciary for the Wayne Children's Healthcare Access Program. Speaker 1: Do you need any other group that You that you're aware of that does not receive any funding from pharmaceutical companies? Speaker 2: I don't know this for a fact but I would think that the Michigan Department of Health Human services does not receive, donations from pharmaceutical companies? Speaker 1: Do these organizations receive money from the Centers For Disease Control? Speaker 2: They do. Are Speaker 1: you aware that the Centers For Disease Control receives money directly and indirectly from pharmaceutical companies? Speaker 2: I am not. I'm not Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Speaker 0: I didn't Speaker 2: I'm not involved in that. I wouldn't know. Speaker 1: So they may receive money from Speaker 2: I don't know. Speaker 1: Which you don't know. Speaker 2: I don't know. Speaker 0: She doesn't know. Speaker 1: Right. I'm just I just wanna make sure. Yes. Speaker 0: I need to clear. He does not know. Speaker 1: Illnesses, behaviors, or behaviors, Make her more likely to develop ITPRA from vaccination? Speaker 2: As I have said, I have not I have no specific knowledge of faith. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the rate of autoimmune disease, chronic illness and developmental delay in children has gone from 12.8% of children in 1986 to 54% of the children in 2011. Speaker 0: Going to object, He is some man to lead a witness on an adverse witness, but at this point he's testifying, not asking her a question. It's overruled. You answered the question. Are you aware of that? Speaker 2: I'm aware that the numbers that are reported nowadays are higher than they used to be. Speaker 1: Is it true that the rate of chronic illness on excuse me. Is it true that the rate of developmental delay among children today is approximately 15 to 18% of the children. Speaker 2: It is true that we are now more aware of developmental delays than we were in the past because we are looking for them. Mhmm. Thank you. Speaker 1: The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services puts out an annual report of the number of so called vaccine preventable diseases. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Okay. The last years in which they have issue these reports is in 2016 and 2015. Correct? Speaker 2: I have reports from them from 2017. Speaker 1: You do? Yes. Speaker 2: Do you Speaker 1: have them here today with you? Speaker 2: That is what I, what we were talking about yesterday. Speaker 1: They're not yet available on the website though. Right? Speaker 2: I believe not. Okay. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that there have been no cases of polio in the last, 3 years in Michigan? I believe that's true. Okay. Isn't it true that there have been no case the diphtheria in the last 3 years. Speaker 2: I believe that is true. Speaker 1: Okay. There have been no cases of rubella? Speaker 2: I am not sure that I believe there have been cases. Speaker 1: Do you have 1? Okay. Well, the only thing available on the Speaker 0: Michigan Power Club website is the 2016, 2015. So, let me ask Speaker 1: you about those. Have there been any cases of rubella in 2016 and 2015 in Michigan? Speaker 2: It's I'm sorry. I Would not know those specifics for those years. Speaker 1: May I approach Ron? These are the summary reports issued by the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, correct? Regarding, the rate of vaccine preventable disease in Michigan? Speaker 2: That is the title on these sheets. Speaker 1: Yes, sir. Thank you. Do you have any reason to doubt these are not from the Michigan Department of Public News? Speaker 2: I do not. Speaker 1: Can you go to the last page of the 2016 report which Just the 2nd Speaker 0: page. Speaker 1: Do you see in the 1st row, we did list the number of cases of congenital rubella? Yes. What number does it provide for 2016? Speaker 2: For 2016, it says 0. Speaker 1: And for two thousand Fifteen? Speaker 2: It says 0. Speaker 1: How many, isn't it true that there were 0 cases of HIB reported in 2015 2016? Speaker 2: Actually that's not. No. That's oh, I see what it says. It has 17 cases of Haemophilus influenza but zero of the p. Speaker 1: Right. And the vaccine only protects against the serotet b. Correct? Okay. So there were 0 cases of HIB, right, which is hemophilicic cleanser b In 2016 and 2015. Correct? Speaker 2: That is correct. That is not true for 2017 though. But it's not on here. Speaker 1: That's not you know, that's Apparently available to you but not to the public yet. And how many cases were there? Speaker 2: Of what? Speaker 1: Of COVID in 2017? 0. Okay. Isn't it true that those reports showed only one case of tetanus in an adult male The 2015, 2016? Speaker 2: It reports one case. Speaker 1: Right. And if you look right up the page under tetanus, It says the patient was an adult male. Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that that the report showed only 2 cases of measles In 2015 and 2016? Speaker 2: That is correct. Okay. Speaker 1: And both both were in adults. It's in the summary description. Accept what you say. Isn't it true that those reports showed, 8 or less cases, per year of meningococcal? Speaker 2: It says there are a total of 14 cases of meningococcal disease between 2016 and 2015. Speaker 1: Right. Six cases in 2016, right? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And 8 in 2015. Speaker 2: Correct. Okay. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that those reports showed a few dozen cases in months In 2015 and 2016. Speaker 2: It shows 38 cases of suspected mumps in 2016 and 18 cases of mumps in 2015. Speaker 1: Right. They're not all laboratory Speaker 2: Include suspect. Speaker 0: Correct. Isn't it true that Speaker 1: the mumps vaccine is known to have efficacy issues and that the and that they're working on creating a better version that's not doesn't have same efficacy issues. Speaker 2: I know that they have just made a recommendation to give a third dose of the MMR in certain situations. Speaker 0: Is that a yes to my question? Speaker 2: The answer is that there I know that there are issues with the efficacy of the MMR for which reason they have rec made a change in the recommendation as to the as to the dosing, how many doses you should get. Okay. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that those, the the report that you're looking at showed a few 100 cases of pertusses each year because the FDA but but the FDA has concluded the vaccine has efficacy issues. Right? Speaker 2: Actually, I would disagree with that conclusion that you are suggesting the, rise in pertussis cases is attributed in general to a drop in, immunization rates. Speaker 1: Doctor. Plotkin said that it was primarily attributable to efficacy issues and that he was personally working On creating a better pertussis vaccine, would you disagree with that? Speaker 2: I cannot comment on doctor Plotkin's testimony. Speaker 1: But would you disagree if he testify Speaker 2: I I cannot comment on his testimony. Speaker 1: Would you disagree yes or no? Speaker 0: You you she's answered. Okay. Speaker 1: Has there ever been a study which looked at the total health outcomes of children following the CDC's vaccination schedule and Those that are completely unvaccinated such as vaping. Speaker 2: Has there ever been a study that has looked at the outcome of those immunized versus those not immunized. I do know that there has been a large study done in another country looking at those who have been immunized against MMR versus those who have not been immunized against MMR. Speaker 1: But with those who are not immunizing SMR, were they otherwise not vaccinated? Meaning, did they not receive any other vaccines? Speaker 2: That was not part of the study. Speaker 1: That's right. So as far as you know, there's never been a study that's actually looked at total health outcomes between fully vaccinated children and children such as face that are vaccinated, correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: If the court orders Faith to be vaccinated and she has a seizure, develops an autoimmune disease, or has some other adverse reaction, Do you think the pediatrician should Speaker 0: have the discretion to stop the vaccinating faith? Speaker 2: If if she has Speaker 1: Can you Speaker 0: repeat the Speaker 1: question? Absolutely. If the court orders fate to be vaccinated and she has a seizure, develops an autoimmune issue, or has some other adverse reaction, do you think the pediatrician should have the discretion stop vaccinating vaping? Speaker 2: The question is a little bit too broad because it may depend on which of the vaccines administered is, can be attributed to having caused the problem. And if it is a seizure, the question becomes as to whether it was a febrile seizure, which is considered to be benign And it's not a contraindication to giving further immunizations. Speaker 1: It's complicated. Right? Speaker 2: It's very complicated. Speaker 1: Do you think that probably the pediatrician should have discretion. Right? Speaker 2: I think there are What's that? Speaker 0: Yes. You're asking her whether she thinks the court should decide her the pediatrician? Speaker 1: No. No. The pediatrician should be able to have discretion to stop vaccinating. Speaker 0: And what does the court have to do with that? Why are you asking? Speaker 1: You know what, it's not necessary Speaker 2: to question. Speaker 1: I I I I remove that portion Speaker 0: of the question. Speaker 1: So if if, if faith I just if faith were to be if if the Parents decide Speaker 0: Let me take a step out of prayer. Speaker 1: Can I Speaker 0: If something if if you had a if if you were vaccinating a child and they had adverse reactions, what Would you would you have would you stop the vaccination process? Speaker 2: Not necessarily the full vaccination process. It would It Speaker 0: would depend on It would depend on the reaction was. Speaker 2: It depends on the reaction. It depends on which vaccines were given that could potentially have caused it. Okay. Speaker 1: Check the antibody levels in the blood to a disease is also known as checking titers. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Okay. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that in the state of Michigan, a child that has sufficient tighters for measles, mumps, rubella, hep B, Orbellis or varicella is not required to get these vaccines, the vaccines for these diseases to attend school? Speaker 2: That is correct. Speaker 1: Okay. What is the vaccine adverse events reporting system? Speaker 2: It is a reporting system where we report adverse events that appear in Association with vaccines. We do not always know the cause and effect, but we are required to report that. Speaker 1: And the CDC administers theirs. Correct? Yes. A long gift. Yeah. Speaker 2: If you say so. Okay. That's very well possible. As I testified yesterday, I told about the details of that. Speaker 1: Right. Right. You said you're not an expert vaccine. Speaker 2: Correct. Correct. Speaker 1: Okay. Isn't it true that fewer than one percent of adverse vaccine events are reported to theirs. Speaker 2: They need to be, If the when you talk about adverse vaccine events, they have to be significant to be reported. If it's just the child Developed a fever you would not report that? That's an expected side effect? Speaker 1: Right. So, isn't it true that less than 1% of the type of events that you're talking about that should be are actually reported today. Speaker 2: I I'm not aware of that. Okay. Speaker 1: Are you familiar with Harvard Medical School and the Harvard Pilgrim Health Care? Speaker 2: I'm familiar with Harvard Medical School. And what was the other one? Speaker 1: Harvard Pilgrim Healthcare. Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's their healthcare system. Ann Arbor? Yes. Speaker 1: It it's, that's my understanding. Yes. And it's one of the, health care HMOs that's part of the vax the vaccine safety data link. You might be familiar with that, but the CTC administrator is Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not familiar with that. Speaker 1: Okay. Yes. So, my understanding is that yes, it is the, it it it is the healthcare system that's associated with Harvard Medical School. That is my understanding. Speaker 2: Okay. And your question was, am I familiar with it? No. I am not Speaker 1: Are you familiar with Harvard Medical School? Speaker 2: Absolutely. Speaker 1: Okay. Would you consider a report prepared by Harvard Medical School researchers under a grant from the United States Department of Health and Human Services looking at the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System or about liable authority. Speaker 2: My hesitation in answering that question is I'm not quite sure what you are implying by considering it a reliable authority. It is certainly something that I would take seriously. Would I Accepted as a 100% gospel? Not necessarily? Speaker 0: Well, we wouldn't. Mostly, we wouldn't accept most things that are Speaker 1: considered as gospel. Correct? But you would consider And authority. Speaker 2: As it is yes. Yes. Speaker 1: May I approach, Rene? Yes. Can you kindly read the yellow highlighting in the report that I just mentioned? Speaker 2: This is from the Electronic Support for Public Health Vaccine Adverse Event Report System from 2007 to 2010, performed by the Harvard Pilgrim Health Care Incorporated. Under results, it says preliminary data were collected from June 2006 through October and 1,400,000 doses, in parentheses, of 45 different vaccines were given to 376,400 and d two individuals. Of these doses, 35,570 possible reactions, in parentheses, 2.6% of vaccinations, were identified. This is an average of 890 possible events, an average of 1.3 events per clinician per month. Those data were presented at the 2009 AMIA conference. And then the other part that is in yellow reads, Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event less than 0 point 3% of all adverse drug events, and 1 to 13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration. Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that in the last 10 years, theirs has received reports of 5 11 deaths, 829 permanent disabilities, and 303,021 Hospitalizations following polio antigen containing vaccines? I don't know. Speaker 2: Not my area of expertise. Speaker 1: But you said you consider the CEC website a reliable authority. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: May I press run? Mhmm. Yes. Speaker 0: Object to this line of showing that these reports that if reports are missed, well, I presume this is a reliable authority. 707 argument or dismissal only for impeachment purposes. He's trying to admit these for hearsay purposes to get their get the evidence contained within these reports submitted by having her read them into the record. They don't mention doctor Holter. Doctor Holter hasn't been qualified as an expert in immunology or vaccines. Miss Nancy, if she's aware of these. Speaker 2: But how do Speaker 0: you get her she get her in line with this where my objection okay. Overruled. Do you have a question? Speaker 1: Yes. That's your role. So We're holding a report from the CDC of of of reported adverse events from the polio containing vaccines for the last 10 years. Across the depths. Can you read it? What's the number of reports? Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I cannot tell what this courts. It just says the vaccine adverse event reporting system bears results. Speaker 1: Absolutely. Speaker 2: It does not say what this is specific to. Sure. Speaker 1: If you go to page 4. Okay. Do you see the date report received line? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: Okay. Do you see that it says the January 2007 to December 2017? Speaker 2: I do. Speaker 1: Do you understand that to be around a 10 year period? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Okay. When you see the next page that's in products, it's contained with products that have, polio antigens in them. Speaker 2: It has the vaccine products are numerous, And it's not all just ones that contain dex polio. Speaker 1: No. I've got limited time so I Speaker 0: might have to make Speaker 1: a proper honest at the end? Or can I can I get a little extra time to or Speaker 0: What do you wanna ask her Speaker 2: about that? Speaker 1: Well, I I just want her to con I'm just trying to confirm have her confirm the the number of deaths, permanent security and hospitalizations. Speaker 2: Well, it it my question my my my concern is that you asked me about polio, and this is not specific to polio. This looks at all the different vaccines that are listed. Speaker 1: These are all vaccines that have polio containing antibodies? Speaker 2: Actually, no. The first one listed is diphtheria and tetanus toxoid. The next one is acellular Speaker 1: Pertussis. That's 1 vaccine. Speaker 2: There there is no way to be able to tell that that's the case. Speaker 0: Do you Speaker 1: see the plus symbols? Each plus symbol denotes a different vaccine. The break between a different vaccine. Speaker 2: If that's the case, then why is diphtheria and tetanus toxoid listed twice before the first plus? Speaker 1: I I I did not design the bear system. I'm just telling you that that's Speaker 2: I cannot tell what this is based on what you have handed me. Speaker 1: Okay. That's fine. Fair enough. Speaker 0: We're limited on time anyway. Speaker 1: Isn't it true the last case of wild bogey in the United States has was in 1979? Speaker 2: I believe that's true. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that in the last 10 years, VAERS has received reports of 615 deaths, 888 permanent disabilities, and 4,600 66 hospitalizations following the theory of many vaccines. Speaker 2: I have no idea if that's true or not. Speaker 1: Assuming it's true since bears only captures a small fraction of action adverse events these numbers are likely to be higher. Correct? Speaker 2: Based on what you pointed out earlier, I would say yes. Speaker 1: The tennis vet team was introduced into the routine childhood schedule in the late 1940s, correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Okay. Speaker 1: According to the CDC, prior to its introduction to the routine childhood schedule, there were only 500 to 600 cases, not deaths, cases, A year of tetanus, correct? Speaker 2: I I wouldn't know. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that in the last 10 years, VAERS has received reports of 10 60 deaths, 13 41 permanent disabilities, and 10,974 hospitalizations following Tetanus containing vaccines? Speaker 2: Again, this is not my area of expertise. Also, I would like to point out that when you make a report to VAERS, An association does not mean causation. Speaker 1: Right. You would need a you you should do a clinical trial which aren't done to check those who receive a version Speaker 0: of those Speaker 1: who don't. But but those it worked out right? Speaker 2: Correct. Okay. Speaker 1: And since and assuming those statistics were true that I just read from the VAERS report, And since VAERS only receives a tiny fraction of vaccine adverse events, isn't it true that these numbers are likely higher? Speaker 2: Yes. Isn't Speaker 1: it true that there are 1,200,000 people in Oakland County and that there that there have only been around a 100 cases of hep B total Since the outbreak you mentioned yesterday? Speaker 2: The outbreak I mentioned was not hep the Speaker 1: Okay. I apologize. Speaker 2: And say the question again? Speaker 1: Absolutely. Isn't it true that there are 1,200,000 people in Oakland County and there have Only been a 100 cases of hep a total since the outbreak you mentioned yesterday. Speaker 2: That is not Speaker 0: correct. Object to the compound nature of the question. She's answering it. Speaker 2: It's it's actually not true anyway. Speaker 0: Okay. What Speaker 1: part is not true? Speaker 2: The number. There have been more cases in Speaker 1: the In Oakland County? Yes. Okay. You consider the, the Department of Community Health of Michigan a Revolonial Authority. Right? Speaker 2: I do. Yeah. And yesterday afternoon after Being in court here, I went to the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services and where, an official from the from Michigan Medicaid presented on the hepatitis a outbreak and presented us with data by county. Speaker 1: Okay. And and what was the number for Oakland? Speaker 2: I don't know the exact number but it was in the several 100. Speaker 1: Okay. Do you wanna move to strike his hearsay? Speaker 0: You asked her a follow-up question. Speaker 1: I know. I know but, you know, there's no Speaker 0: I'm not gonna start here. Let's just move on. Speaker 1: But I yes. That's why I thought Speaker 0: I can't hear what you say when you duck down. We talked about this yesterday. Speaker 1: Okay. Sorry. I'll have to come back to that. Alright. Aluminum adjuvants are using vaccines. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Why are the Lumenavans using vaccines? Speaker 2: Because they make the vaccine more effective. Speaker 1: Okay. And how do they do that? Speaker 2: I don't know. Speaker 1: Okay. What's an antigen? Speaker 2: An antigen is a typically a protein that, in this case, it would be if you're talking about vaccines, an antigen is, A protein that causes a reaction and oftentimes is an an infectious agent but not always. Speaker 1: Antigen. Okay. And antigens are contained in vaccines. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Antigens bind to the aluminum. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: What are macrophages? Those are Speaker 2: a type of cell in the blood? Speaker 1: Only in the blood? Speaker 2: And other parts of the body too. Speaker 1: What do they do? Speaker 2: They eat up, stuff that you shouldn't have in your body. Okay. Speaker 1: And antigens bound to aluminum are taken up by macrophages. Correct? Speaker 2: Yes. K. Speaker 1: And macrophages present the stuff they gobble up to the parts of the immune system that create antibodies. Correct? Speaker 2: I believe so. I don't I have not studied the actual mechanism of action. Speaker 1: And they also travel to different parts of the body including the grains. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And they'll deposit the materials that gobble up there. Correct? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: What is encephalitis? Speaker 2: It's an inflammation of the brain. Speaker 1: What is encephalopathy? Speaker 2: It is a chronic condition of of of the brain being out of whack. Speaker 1: What is encephalomyelitis? Speaker 0: Encephalomyelitis. Speaker 2: It is an inflammation of the myelin within the brain. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that most vaccine inserts report For most vaccines excuse me, strike that. Isn't it true that most package inserts for most vaccines report, Encephalitis or encephalopathy as a reported adverse event from vaccination? Speaker 2: I would have to look at all the package inserts to be able to say yes or no to that. It is possible. Speaker 1: Okay. Are you aware that all DTaP containing vaccines with encephalopathy within 7 days of a prior potential sustaining vaccine is a contraindication? Speaker 2: Yes. K. Speaker 1: Do any of the vaccines in the toxic cell will contain monkey kidney cells? Speaker 2: I do not know. Speaker 1: Blood serum from cows? Speaker 2: I do not know. Speaker 1: Do you need pig cell cultures? Speaker 2: I do not know. Speaker 1: Gelatin from pigs and cows? Speaker 2: I don't know. Speaker 1: MRC 5 human diploid cells. Speaker 2: MRC five Those are specifics that I typically do. Speaker 1: Are you aware that MRC 5 diploid cells are cells cultured from the lung Speaker 2: I am aware that there are 2 vaccines out on the market, the MMR and the VZV that have, that use a cell in the production of it, use a cell line, from aborted fetuses from 1962 and 1966. Those are the only 2 aborted fetus tissue cell lines that are used. And there is no alternative to it. Speaker 0: So the cultures the the Speaker 1: the Japan has an MMR vaccine. Correct? Correct? Speaker 2: I believe so. Speaker 1: And theirs doesn't have any human fetal cell disease. Speaker 2: I'm not aware that there is one that is licensed in the United States other than what we have. Speaker 1: Okay. So there are vaccines that contain the cell lines from water fetal tissue. Correct? Speaker 2: From 1962 and 1966. Yes. Speaker 1: But Speaker 2: Actually, the the vaccine doesn't contain the cell line. The the, the the the vaccine is requires culture within those cell lines. Speaker 1: And you're saying that none of those none of the aborted fetal tissue culture cell lines actually end up in the vaccine product? Speaker 2: The vaccine doesn't have cells in it. Speaker 1: The cellular pieces from the aborted That Speaker 2: is potentially possible. Yes. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that in fact there is more of that cellular debris in the MMR for example, and there is actually antigen? Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that, That the, Havrix hepatitis a vaccine hepatitis a vaccine contains millions of fragments of human DNA? Speaker 2: Possible. I don't know. Speaker 0: If doctor Speaker 1: Plotkin said that it does, would you disagree? Speaker 2: If he says it does, then I will agree. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the Varivax, the chicken pox vaccine contains approximately 1,000,000,000,000 fragments of human DNA? Speaker 2: Again, if doctor Plotkin says it does then I will agree. Speaker 1: Okay. Do do any vaccines on the child's vaccine schedule contain human albumin which is part of the human blood? Speaker 2: Not to my albumin is is, yes. It is found in human blood, it can also be produced separately to the best of my knowledge? Speaker 1: But you're not aware of whether it's Speaker 2: I I I don't know if it's in there or not. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that a monkey Virus SB 40 infected millions of Americans before it was discovered in the polio vaccine? Speaker 2: That is possible? Speaker 1: You're not aware? Speaker 2: I'm not aware of that. No. Speaker 1: K. Isn't it true? Are you aware that s c 40 has been and continues to be found in various human tumors? Speaker 2: I'm not aware of that. Speaker 0: Isn't it true that an adjuvant will only will Speaker 1: not only bind to the target antigen that's in the vaccine, But also, to the impurities and byproducts such as the animal and human parts left in the vaccine or the manufacturing process? Speaker 2: You're asking me specifics about physiology, that I am not that's not my area of expertise. Speaker 1: Are you aware I asked doctor Klotkin the same question? He said probably yes. Speaker 2: As I've mentioned previously, I have no idea what you asked doctor Klotkin. Speaker 1: It's correct. Speaker 2: I suppose that would make sense from a physiologic point of view. Speaker 1: And and if doctor Klotkin said that it might it could, Would you disagree? Speaker 2: I would not disagree. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that in just one study related to vaccine development conducted by Doctor. Plotkin, He used 74 normally developed uses 3 months or older, many of which were electively awarded. Speaker 0: One's objection to relevance of what doctor Plotkin did in his study. She's already testified that she's not an expert on everything he's written. He's not here today. I realize they want to spend a lot of time in teaching him, but he's not a witness. Speaker 1: Your honor, my client has an objection of a religious nature to vaccination that relates to the use of aborted fetuses. The use of aborted fetuses develop the vaccines is clearly relevant to this dispute. Speaker 2: Hold on. Speaker 1: I've only got 2 more questions on it and, all this. Okay. Done. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Isn't it true these 74 aborted fetuses had almost every piece of their bodies including skin, tongue, and heart cut into little cubes to be used for culture. Speaker 2: I'm not aware of any studies that doctor Plotkin, The specifics of any studies that doctor Plotkin did? Speaker 1: You're aware that he's developed numerous vaccines. Correct? Speaker 2: I am aware of that. Yes. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that at least hundreds of aborted fetuses have been sacrificed in the development of vaccines. Speaker 2: Again, I cannot comment on that. I can't comment on what the Vatican has said about the vaccines and whether to use them or not. Speaker 1: What principles and methods did you rely upon in reaching your opinion regarding vaccine safety? Speaker 2: I use the again, the recommendations of the CDC And the American, the, Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and the American Academy of Pediatrics to make form an opinion about the vaccine safety. And also, I used my experience in seeing children who have died from conditions that were vaccine preventable. Once you have seen a child die from a vaccine preventable disease, Your focus on how you feel about vaccines changes dramatically. I have seen children die from meningococcal disease Very rapidly. As soon as the vaccine became available on the market, I made sure that my daughters got that vaccine. The same is true for for, HPV vaccine. Speaker 1: You believe in informed consent, I presume? Speaker 2: I believe in informed consent. Informed consent involves also knowing not just what the potential side effects are, But what the actual risks are of having the disease? Speaker 1: That's right. But it also involves understanding the risks of the product itself. Correct? Speaker 2: You have to balance the risks versus the benefits. In this case, the benefits far outweigh the risks. Speaker 1: Okay. And the basis for that opinion is the information on the c d that is the CDC web. It is is because it's a CDC recommendation. Correct? Speaker 2: Both that as well as what I have personally experienced. Speaker 1: Okay. So your basis so I'm gonna say the principle methods that you relied upon of reaching your opinion regarding vaccine safety and vaccine efficacy are what the CDC recommends And and your claim that you've seen some people die of some diseases that for which their vaccination. Is that correct? Correct. That's the sum total. Right? Speaker 2: And the American Academy of Pediatrics recommendations. Speaker 1: Okay. That's it. Speaker 2: How we form opinions is quite complex, And you're asking me how I formed all of these opinions? And I have to say there are probably other influences that I am not thinking of at this point. But in general in general, those are the major. Speaker 1: Your honor, I I'm On that basis, those are the principles and methods she's relied upon. I moved to disqualify her as an expert with regards to vaccine safety and efficacy. Daubert standard requires Principles and methods that are reliable, that are reproducible, that you can actually evaluate the peer reviewed publication based with damage. Speaker 0: She's already been qualified as an expert in Speaker 1: Right. But I'm I'm moving to to I understand that, but I'm moving to have all of her testimony regarding vaccine safety and efficacy. Pediatrics can be viewed broadly, your honor. And I and, obviously, you you know, I objected at the beginning. And so I'm I'm in some ways, I knew my objection in that To the extent that her qualification as a pediatrician, which is fine, as she I don't contest that there are certainly areas in pediatrics where she is qualified to be a No. Speaker 0: You're welcome to break it. It sounds like you probably should, but we're now are you done with Speaker 1: Okay. But but that's an issue that you'll take under advisement, your honor? Speaker 0: If you'd like to brief it, but you're gonna have to come more with a than a 2 minute, oral argument with some case law and court rules. Anything else? Speaker 1: Well well, I, you know, I I, I went through things a bit a lot quicker than I would have normally done given that, 30 minute limitation. Speaker 0: I I gave you 45 minutes. Speaker 1: I paused. Speaker 0: It's like 45 minutes. Speaker 1: I did pause it every time. I wasn't every time somebody else did something. I've I've got 30 minutes 42 seconds. But I do appreciate that, your honor. I do appreciate that. Speaker 0: What's your what's your conclusion? Right? Speaker 1: I'm I'm concluding just reserving for any Recross the That's Speaker 0: comes up. Redirect. Alright. Doctor Holter will make this pretty quick. Tends to be my habit. Let's Start with I'm gonna go in reverse chronological order as well. So we've there was some conversation about aborted fetal cell lines and not a lot of Can you tell me what you mean when you say a cell line? Speaker 2: A cell line is a stem cell typically that, a cell that can still reproduce and in for example, if you take tissues from, lung, fibroblasts, those can be, made to reproduce and continue to be lung fibroblast cells, and they have been reproduced Year after year after year. Speaker 0: How are they reproduced? Speaker 2: Those are specifics that I cannot Speaker 1: tell you. Speaker 0: Are they grown in a lab? Speaker 2: They're grown in a lab. Yes. So there Speaker 0: we the word awarded fetal cells has been used a lot. Is there a further and I'm trying to phrase this delicately, Are there new aborted cells being added to this? Speaker 2: To the best of my knowledge, there are not new aborted cells being added to it. But, again, this is Vaccine, manufacturing is not my area of expertise. Speaker 0: Alright. I'm going to go to something that kind of is. So they'll appreciate that. We talked about encephalitis, encephalopathy, and myelitis. And we also spend a lot of time discussing aluminum. You've done have you done research on specifically metal toxicity Does it be in the human body? Speaker 2: I have lead poisoning specifically. Speaker 0: Why isn't the aluminum in vaccines concerning to you? Or is the aluminum in vaccines Speaker 2: It is not concerning to me because the amount of aluminum that we ingest in general, just through our diet, is much higher than what we get through vaccines. There's no reason to believe that that amount, that additional small amount is anything to be concerned about. Alright. Speaker 0: Are you aware of the relative proportions of the aluminum that we ingest versus the aluminum that we receive? Speaker 2: It is significantly, higher what we ingest. I would it's somewhere between 50 to a 100 times more than what we did in vaccines. Speaker 0: Thank you. Let's talk about VAERS for a bit. Are you familiar with the process to report a vaccine injury to VAERS? Speaker 2: There is a there is a a website to report it on and a Phone number that what can be called? Speaker 0: Alright. Is it the physicians reporting these adverse events? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 0: Can someone report their own adverse event without a Speaker 2: It would be possible. Yes. There's no limitation as to who makes the report. Speaker 0: So would it be possible for a person or persons with an agenda to make reports? Speaker 2: That is possible. I would I would assume. Speaker 0: Alright. And are there any standards for the time line to make a report to VAERS? Speaker 2: You you typically are required to make that report as soon as possible, as soon as you become aware of it. Speaker 0: Is there a timeline for how long the alleged adverse reaction takes place after the administration of the vaccine? Speaker 2: I'd have to look up the guidelines. It's generally within, a few days of after the vaccine. Speaker 0: Alright. And alright. So we also talked about titer a bit. And that how would a child develop immunity that would show in a titer? Speaker 2: Okay. So when you are when your body is, encounters an antigen, the body typically, responds to it by producing an antibody. Antibodies are sort of like the little soldiers that help to fight off the antigen or the infection. Some antibodies are effective, some are not effective. And that is actually part of the process of developing a vaccine is, to help the body produce antibodies that are effective in fighting off the infection. Speaker 0: And so there was a lot of talk about the fact that a lot of vaccine preventable diseases we don't see. Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 0: Why do we still vaccinate against those diseases? Speaker 2: Because they haven't been eliminated and because, in a globalized world, it is possible to be exposed to them from somebody traveling on an airplane, bringing it into the country, and we know that that has happened with, a number of diseases. Speaker 0: Alright. And next, this is almost the last question. I've got these you. So when you're looking at a patient and making the determination as to what vaccines they should receive, what family history factors Are conservative TB? Speaker 2: One of the big family history factors that I would take into consideration is, is there, a history of anybody who's immune suppressed. And actually, in certain knowing that there are Certain conditions in the family would make me more likely to immunize rather than less likely because especially, Folks who have a a a chance of having diabetes or asthma may, If there's a family history of it, the chance that the child might have it is higher. And then the child may be more likely to suffer the severe, side effects if they were to catch that disease. Speaker 0: Alright. And are you familiar with the Institute of Medicine at all? Speaker 2: I'm familiar with it. Yes. Speaker 0: Can you explain briefly what it is? Speaker 2: I I can't. Alright. It's fine. I know that there are recommendations that come out from the Institute of Medicine and I I'm sorry. I have What's the Speaker 0: That's fine. Nothing. Anything? Yeah. Only related anything new that was from Speaker 1: No. Only exactly what Speaker 0: was going on. Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go outside Speaker 0: the school. Okay. Speaker 1: If I do, I'll I'll gladly take that objection. Okay. Okay. Isn't it true that there actually has recently been a new cell line, human cell line from a board of fetal tissue that's been approved for use in that case? Speaker 2: I'm not aware of that. Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the only polio vaccine used in the United States is an activated polio vaccine which is injected in muscle Speaker 2: Incorrect. It's an inactivated that's Speaker 0: what I'm saying. It's Speaker 2: an inactivated poliovirus vaccine. Speaker 1: Right. And it's injected in muscle tissue. Speaker 2: Correct. Okay. Speaker 1: Versus what we used to be used as a Speaker 2: Actually, it's not into the muscle tissue. It's given sub q typically. Speaker 1: And and isn't it, And the, the polio vaccine that used to be used in America and the one that's still used most of world countries, oral polio vaccine. Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And isn't it true that the World Health Organization recommendation provides that because strike that. Polio vaccine is Polio vaccine is, polio is transmitted from mouth fecal contamination. Correct? Mhmm. Right. Correct. Okay. So it, it it it infects and proliferates in the intestines? Speaker 2: Correct. Okay. Speaker 1: Isn't it true the World Health Organization provides that If there's an outbreak of polio in a country that uses IPV, they're supposed to switch over to OPV Because IPV gives personal protection because it only creates immunity in the blood not in the intestines. So therefore, it it the polio vaccine can still proliferate and spread if all you have is IPV and not OPD. Correct? That Speaker 2: is correct. Speaker 1: Right. So so, the right. So the poll okay. And that goes to the point that my opposing counsel is saying that, the reason we need to strike that point there. In terms of theirs, for the very small fraction of of adverse events that are reported to theirs, the CDC does follow-up on some of them, correct? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: And and and so people were making phony reports to theirs. They find out what is that? I would assume so. Have you ever read any article about Phony bears reports? Speaker 2: I have not. Speaker 1: Okay. Are you aware of any phony bears reports? Speaker 2: I have not. Speaker 1: Okay. Last topic, aluminum and then I'm I'm done. So you said that the quantity of ingested aluminum is small or is, excuse me, is is much larger than the amount injected aluminum and therefore, you deem it safe? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: Are you aware that the this FDA provides that in terms of inject Jested aluminum, eaten aluminum, 0.3% or less is actually taken up by the blood. Do you know that or not? I it's Speaker 2: just that I don't know the exact numbers. Speaker 1: And that if it is, it's taken up in ionic form. Do you understand what I mean? Speaker 2: I understand what you mean by that. Speaker 1: I mean, in its in its smallest elemental form, that's what's taken into the blood. Right? Speaker 2: Correct. Speaker 1: And and aluminum and ionic form is not able to cross the blood brain barrier. Correct? Speaker 2: I am not aware that that's true. Speaker 1: You don't know. Speaker 2: I don't know that that's true. Speaker 1: Okay. If you don't know, that's fine. In contrast, injected aluminum is our nanoparticles. Correct? They're there to create an irritant to the immune system so that the vaccine creates antibodies. And so they're actually these nano that are in the vaccine, right, or do not know? Speaker 2: You're talking about specifics that are are very Detailed? Speaker 1: And Aren't aren't the details important? I mean, you you said that Speaker 2: Not in this case because we're talking about a metal. And we're talking about a metal that doesn't change its form in a in a way that is, it's not like the There was a law a big controversy about mercury in vaccines. And the mercury in vaccines, the form was different than the mercury that was typically ingested in fish, for example. Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask I'm not asking about mercury. Speaker 2: I know you're not. But that concern is not present for aluminum. Speaker 1: I'm gonna Speaker 2: ask The amount of Speaker 1: The aluminum that's injected into the body, are you aware That it's in nanoparticle form. That it's it is in in in chemistry Speaker 2: It is bound to something else. Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Speaker 2: It is bound to something else. It's it's used as an adjuvant. Speaker 1: Right. Meaning, you can't have ionic aluminum binding to these giant antigens. You need big pieces of aluminum to bind to the protein antigens. Right? Speaker 2: When you say big pieces of aluminum Speaker 1: Relative to to an an ion of aluminum that would be ingested in. Speaker 2: Sir, you're asking me Specifics. They don't require beyond my area of expertise. Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. The so you don't know that's fine. But I'm there is. Okay. So you're not aware that there's a difference between the form that aluminum, so when it's ingested, it's taken up an ionic form. When it's injected, It's in these nanoparticle forms. And the nanoparticle forms She Speaker 0: hasn't presented anything yet. Just one doubt. Just so you finish. She's almost done. Speaker 1: And the nanoparticle forms that we discussed earlier are gobbled up by macro badges and deposit deposited around the body including frames. You know, strike that. I I think she she's already said she doesn't know. So thank you very much, your honor. Speaker 0: Thank you. You can step down

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Admitting the quiet part out loud.

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Watch the “Godmother of Vaccines” Vaccinologist Dr. Kathryn Edwards wilt before your eyes during a deposition in preparation for a vaccine injury trial. The issue at hand is, how can the government and its pharmaceutical company interlocutors assert their products do not cause autism, if the proper studies have never been conducted in order to prove that? Credit: @HighWireTalk

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The speaker discusses the length of clinical trials needed to determine if vaccines cause autism in children under 18 months. They mention that autism is generally diagnosed within the first couple of years of life and is believed to be a prenatal event. The speaker also states that vaccine trials typically require a year of follow-up. When asked about the number of children needed in clinical trials to detect autism and the trial duration, the speaker cannot provide specific numbers. They agree that the trials may not have been designed to determine if vaccines cause autism and suggest that larger database studies are needed. The speaker emphasizes that they are not stating vaccines cause autism.
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Speaker 0: If you're going to design a clinical trial of a vaccine giving to children 18 months or younger, how long would that clinical trial need to be to determine whether the vaccine caused autism? Speaker 1: The, In general, the, autism is is is generally diagnosed somewhere within the first, couple years of life. And, and I think maybe the meantime is about 2 years depending upon severity. So I think that that, However, I think that that most of the going theories would suggest that that autism is is really a prenatal event And not a an event that happens after the child is born. So I think that that that what you're asking me is a little bit of a loaded question And, so I will add, I will ask you or I will answer in that, that the that the vaccine trials that are that are conducted Always have a tale of about a year that is required for, for the manufacturers to follow the patients. Speaker 0: For the vaccines licensed, you know, by the year by the year 2000, how many children would you estimate need to be in those clinical trials to detect whether the vaccine cause autism by 18 months and how long would the trial need to continue after 18 months of age? Speaker 1: I can't give you those numbers off the top of my head, exactly how they would be. And, I think that, I think one of the, you know, when you have an a rare event, Although, you know, autism is now felt to be about 1.5% of the population when you have a rare event, and particularly when it was it might have been more difficult to diagnose earlier, in an earlier time, Then, then I think it takes larger numbers but I can't give you that numbers. Speaker 0: About clinical trials, would you agree with me that the clinical trials lied upon to license the vaccines given to for Yates were not designed to determine whether these products cause autism when given to an infant or toddler at or below the age of 18 months? Speaker 1: I think those trials were likely not powered to answer that question. I don't Paul, the actual number that were enrolled in the, in the MMR vaccine trials. And so I can't, I can't say that definitively, that, you know, but but I would trust that it likely was not large enough and that's why large Database studies are are needed to to really assess that in in a phase four assessment. Speaker 0: So it sounds like, you know, you would agree there weren't. They probably as you said are unlikely to be improperly powered and they would have needed to review safety long enough as well, to determine to capture enough children in the experimental and control group that had or didn't have autism in order to make an assessment of whether the product caused autism. Correct? Speaker 1: Yes, sir. If an adverse event were to occur associated with vaccines that if it were an uncommon event And if it were if it was not diagnosed until later, then you would need a larger number of sample size and a longer period to assess that. I am not saying, however, by answering yes to your questions that I believe autism that vaccines cause autism. So I just wanna make sure that you understand what I'm saying. Speaker 0: Never asked that question. Absolutely. I think the record's clear on that. How long would safety have to be tracked in the clinical Progyny Lide upon to license the vaccine's yeast receipt in order for them to have determined whether the vaccine caused autism? Object to form the question. You may answer, doctor, if you have any. Speaker 1: I'm not gonna answer it. I've already answered the question. Speaker 0: I I don't recall that you have not provided any period of time? Are you saying you don't know the period of time? Speaker 1: I said Speaker 0: Please. Speaker 1: I said that The studies that were involved in the licensure of MMR did not provide an adequate number of patients that had been followed for For 4 years to determine the, the a rare event that would happen 4 years after vaccination. That's what I'm saying. Speaker 0: According to your profile you have done most of the printable trials relied upon to license many of the vaccines, correct, on the market? Speaker 1: Yes, sir. Speaker 0: Okay. So you're highly experienced conducting clinical trials, correct? Speaker 1: I'm highly experienced conducting clinical trials. Speaker 0: And you're familiar with many of the clinical trials that relied upon to license many of the vaccines currently on the market, correct? I am. In your opinion, did the clinical trials relied upon to license the vaccines that Gates received many of which are still on the market today, were they designed to rule out that the vaccine causes autism? Speaker 1: No. You badgered me into answering the question the way you want me to, but I think that, that that I've that's probably the answer. Speaker 0: Is is it is that your accurate and truthful testimony? Yes. Thank you.

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“The Godfather of Vaccines” Dr. Stanley Plotkin admits under oath he got paid from all of the big Pharma companies while consulting for an “Independent Report” on whether or not Vaccines cause autism. For some extremely odd reason he didn’t feel the need to disclose it in the report.

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In this video, the speaker discusses a report by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) on vaccine safety. The speaker, who worked for major vaccine makers, was involved in the review process. The IOM report examined the link between vaccines and autism, concluding that there is inadequate evidence to accept or reject a causal relationship. The speaker asserts that vaccines do not cause autism, despite the lack of evidence. The conversation also touches on the administration of Tdap vaccines to babies and pregnant women. The speaker dismisses claims about vaccines causing leprosy and suggests that the review process was necessary due to numerous complaints. The video ends with a question about using orphans for studies.
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Speaker 0: 2011, the IOM then issued another report on vaccine safety. And this time it looked at a 158 of the most commonly claimed serious injuries, after vaccination, right? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: The title of that report is Adverse Effects of Vaccines Evidence of Causality. Did you provide information to the IO committee conducting this review? Speaker 1: I don't recall specifically whether I did or not. A lot of people asked for my opinions and When asked, do I give my opinions? Speaker 0: See a section entitled reviewers. Speaker 1: Oh, yes. I'm on the list. Speaker 0: The purpose of this independent review, is to provide candid and critical comments that will assist the institutions in making its published report as sound as possible, and to ensure that the report meets institutional standards for objectivity, evidence and responsiveness to the study charge. It doesn't disclose that at that time you were working for all 4 of the major vaccine makers, correct. In 2011, were you receiving compensation of remuneration from Sanofi? Speaker 1: I was yes, as I've said before, I Was consulting for Sanofi, as well as others. Speaker 0: Were you consulting for Merck? Speaker 1: Yes, probably at that time. Yes. Speaker 0: And GSK? Yes. And and as well as a whole host of other for profit companies seeking to develop vaccines, correct? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: I'm just saying that's not mentioned here, correct? Speaker 1: No. Speaker 0: Tdap is one of the vaccines on the childhood schedule, right? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: It's it's administered to babies during the 1st year of life. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: We already talked about this at 2, 4 6 months. Right? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: Now, as for TDaP, that's given to pregnant women, correct? Yes. What was the IOM's conclusion in 2011 about whether these vaccines can cause autism? Speaker 1: I'd have to look that up, but, I Feel confident that they do not cause autism. Speaker 0: You feel confident that that's what the IOM concluded? Speaker 1: I don't remember what the IOM concluded, but I don't believe there's any evidence that that's the case. Speaker 0: Can you read the causality conclusion with regard to whether DTaP and Tdap cause autism? Speaker 1: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject A causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid, tetanus toxoid or acellular pertussis containing vaccine and autism. Speaker 0: The evidence doesn't exist to show whether DTaP or TDaP do or do not cause autism, correct? Speaker 1: Yes. Evidence not being available. Yes. Does not allow you to conclude that the phenomena That there is a causal relationship. Speaker 0: But it does allow you to conclude that the evidence doesn't exist to say that DTaP and TDaP do not cause autism. Speaker 1: There is not evidence to, say a 1000000 different things. We have no suspicions, at least I don't, that autism is caused by DTaP. Speaker 0: You may not have that suspicion, but it is one of the most commonly reported adverse events, which is why it was reviewed in this IOM report. Can you make the statement that vaccines do not cause autism. If you don't know whether DTaP or Tdap cause autism. Speaker 1: I can say as a physician that, no, they do not cause autism. You know, I can't be sure that DTaP doesn't leprosy. That doesn't mean that that stops me from using a DTaP vaccine. Speaker 0: Are people claiming that DTaP has caused leprosy? I Are you aware of any such complaints? Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any such complaints, but I wouldn't be surprised -To see it on the web one of these days. Speaker 0: -Okay. But people have made enough complaints about DTaP, Tdap causing autism that the Institute of Medicine at the Commission of HHS thought it was serious enough to do a scientific review, correct? Speaker 1: Yes. I mean, there are a 1000000 things on the web, including all kinds of of diet advice based on, on ridiculous information. So why should I adopt that? Speaker 0: Are you saying that the IOM was engaging in a ridiculous review here. The only thing I've asked you is whether or not one can assert that vaccines do not cause autism. Speaker 1: Counselor, let's be let's be real. You're asking me these questions because you want me to legitimize a view that vaccines cause autism and I will not do that because absence of evidence is no proof whatsoever. Speaker 0: You're okay with telling the parent that DTaP, TDaP does not cause autism, even though the science isn't there yet to support that claim. Speaker 1: Absolutely. I'm also willing to tell them it doesn't cause leprosy. Speaker 0: Have you ever used orphans to study

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I am wound up today. All these people defending vaccines like it’s their job (because it probably is) do me a favor a defend this from your lord and savior Stanley Plotkin “The Godfather of Vaccines. When he is under oath he has to speak the unspeakable. I have more coming your way shills.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if they have ever used orphans, mentally handicapped individuals, babies of mothers in prison, or individuals under colonial rule to study experimental vaccines. Speaker 1 admits to using orphans, but does not recall using mentally handicapped individuals specifically. They acknowledge that it was not uncommon in the 1960s. Speaker 1 confirms using babies of mothers in prison and individuals under colonial rule, including in the Belgian Congo, where the experiment involved nearly a million people.
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Speaker 0: Have you ever used orphans to study an experimental vaccine? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: Have you ever used the mentally handicapped to study an experimental vaccine? Speaker 1: I don't recollect ever doing studies in mentally handicapped individuals. At the time in the 1960s, it was not an uncommon practice. Speaker 0: So, You're saying I'm I'm not clear on your answer. I'm sorry. Did you did you have you ever used the mentally handicapped to study an experimental vaccine? Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I don't recall specifically having done that, but that, in the 1960s, It was not unusual to do that. And I wouldn't deny that, I may have done so. Speaker 0: Okay. Have you ever used babies of mothers in prison to study an experimental vaccine? Yes. Have you ever used individuals under colonial rule to study an experimental vaccine? Yes. Did you do so in the Belgian Congo? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: Did that experiment involve almost a 1000000 people? Speaker 1: Well, well, alright. Yes.

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In this clip the mask is removed from “The Godfather of Vaccines” Stanley Plotkin. Even though he obviously has disdain for religion and calls himself an atheist, it’s clear he has a religion, Scientism.

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The speaker discusses the organs harvested from fetuses, including the pituitary gland, lung, skin, kidney, spleen, heart, and possibly the tongue. They acknowledge objections to the use of aborted fetal tissue in vaccines, but mention that the Catholic church supports vaccination regardless. The speaker does not know if the mother is Catholic and suggests she consult her priest. They express disagreement with religious objections to vaccines and believe that some religious beliefs include accepting death and disease. The speaker identifies as an atheist and acknowledges that some religious beliefs are unprovable.
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Speaker 0: What organs Speaker 1: did you harvest from these fetuses? Speaker 0: Well, I didn't personally harvest any, but a whole range of tissues were harvested by coworkers. Speaker 1: And these pieces were then cut up into little pieces, right? Yes. And they were cultured? Yes. Okay. Some of the pieces of the fetuses were pituitary gland that were that were chopped up into pieces too? Mhmm. Okay. Included the lung of the fetuses? Yes, okay included the skin. Yes. Kidney. Yes. Spleen. Yes. Heart. Yes. And tongue? Speaker 0: I don't recall but the probably yes. Speaker 1: Are you aware that the one of the uh-uh. Objections to vaccination by the plaintiff in this case is the inclusion of aborted fetal tissue and the development of vaccines and the fact that it's actually part of the ingredients of vaccines? Speaker 0: Yeah. I'm aware of those objections. The Catholic church has actually issued a document on that which says that individuals who need the vaccine should receive the vaccines regardless of the fact. And that that, I think it implies that I am the individual who will go to hell because of the use of aborted tissues, which I am blessed to Speaker 1: do. Okay. Do you know if the mother is Catholic? Speaker 0: I have no idea. Okay. So she should consult her priest. Speaker 1: Do you believe that someone can have a valid religious objection to refusing a vaccine? No. Do you take issue with religious beliefs? Yes. You've said that, quote, vaccination is always under attack by religious zealots who believe that the will of God includes death and disease. Yes. You you stand by that statement? I absolutely do. Okay. Are you an atheist? Yes. Do you accept that some people hold religious beliefs that are inherently unprovable? Speaker 0: Yes. I'm sure they do.

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The mental gymnastics Dr. Stanley Plotkin goes through to convince himself that what he is recommending is “safe and effective” is truly something to behold. Keep in mind this is man literally wrote the 💉 textbooks that are used to educate people on this science. Yet they will deny, deny, deny, knowing the entire time they are misrepresenting the science, for the “greater good” of course so that justifies it.

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The speakers discuss the need for careful preclinical studies before licensing vaccines. They mention that large studies covering different age groups are necessary, but these data often come later after the vaccine has been used in thousands or millions of people. The conversation then focuses on whether DTaP or Tdap vaccines cause autism. The Institute of Medicine (IOM) concludes that the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between these vaccines and autism. While there are no studies showing a link, one study by anti-vaccination figures is mentioned, but it lacks legitimacy. The speakers emphasize that there is no positive evidence to disprove the link. However, as a physician, one speaker states that vaccines do not cause autism and that they prioritize the health of the child over waiting for conclusive scientific evidence. The discussion also briefly mentions the possibility of DTaP causing leprosy, although there are no complaints about it. The IOM's review did not cover this topic.
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Speaker 0: Isn't it also the reason then that careful preclinical studies using an inert placebo should be conducted before licensure? Speaker 1: It would be ideal to do so, but, one would also have to Would have to be very large studies, and covering different age groups. And by and large, those data come out much later after experience With the vaccine used in 1,000 or millions of people. Speaker 0: This is an excerpt from the IOM's report, right? Speaker 1: Yes. Okay. Speaker 0: And this is where the IOM discusses The evidence with regard to whether DTaP or Tdap cause autism, correct? Correct. Okay. If you turn to the 2nd page, can you read the causality conclusion with regard to whether DTaP and Tdap cause autism? Speaker 1: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid, tetanus toxoid Or acellular pertussis containing vaccine in autism. Speaker 0: So the IOM reviewed the available evidence with regard to whether Tdap or DTaP can cause autism. And their conclusion was the evidence doesn't exist to show whether DTaP or TDaP do does do or do not cause autism, correct? Speaker 1: Yes. But the point is that there are no studies showing that it does cause autism except one study By 2 well known anti vaccination figures, Guyer and Guyer, who have no legitimacy whatsoever. So what they're saying is that there's no evidence. And, The important point from my point of view is that there is no positive evidence Right. To do a proper study, as we've been discussing, which would, Disprove It would involve the controlled administration of vaccines and, Withholding vaccines from children who should have them. Speaker 0: But since there's no evidence that DTaP or Tdap don't cause autism, You can't yet say that vaccines do not cause autism, correct? Speaker 1: I cannot say that as a, as a scientist or a logician, but I can say as a physician That, no, they do not cause autism. Speaker 0: Okay. So what you're saying is, as a physician or logician, then you couldn't say vaccines do not you could not say vaccines do not cause autism. But as a pediatrician, you're saying that you would say that to a parent because You wanna make sure they get the vaccine. Is that right? Speaker 1: You know, I can't be sure that DTaP doesn't cause leprosy. That doesn't mean that that It stops me from using a DTaP vaccine. Speaker 0: Are people claiming that DTaP has caused leprosy? Are you aware of any such complaints? Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any such complaints, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it on the web one of these days. Speaker 0: Okay. But people have made enough complaints about DTaP, Tdap causing autism that the Institute of Medicine At the Commission of HHS thought it was serious enough to do a scientific review, correct? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: Okay. If you don't know whether DTaP or Tdap cause autism, shouldn't you wait Until you do know until you have the science to support it to then say that vaccines do not cause autism? Speaker 1: Do I wait? No, I do not wait because I have to take into account the health of the child. Speaker 0: And so for that reason, you're okay with telling the parent that DTaP, Tdap does not cause autism even though the science isn't there yet to support that claim? Speaker 1: Absolutely. I'm also willing to tell them it doesn't cause leprosy. Speaker 0: Okay. Again, did the did the ILM review whether DTEB cause a lot of sleep? Speaker 1: No. Okay. I cannot say that as a, As a scientist or a logician, but I can say as a physician that, no, they do not cause

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Maurice Hilleman and Leonard Hayflick aren’t household names but in the world biological sciences they are legends. Hilleman passed away in 2005 and is credited with developing over 40 vaccines and is widely credited as the most influential vaccinolgists ever. Hayflick who is still alive and currently a Professor of Anatomy at UCSF School of medicine, is known for discovering that normal human cells divide for a limited number of times in vitro, known today as the Hayflick Limit. His cell strain WI-38 replaced the monkey kidney cells as the substrate used for producing human vaccines. These are serious scientists and widely celebrated by all stripes so when they speak, people tend to listen. I say this because what you are about to watch is an edit of three different documentaries that compliment each other nicely because each presents evidence from a different perspective on generally the same topic. The first clip is presented by Leonard Horowitz, a Harvard trained public health expert, author and pharmaceutical industry whistleblower. He located a segment that was left on the cutting room floor of a PBS Documentary entitled “The Health Century” which featured a Maurice Hilleman interview. He also mentions Litton Bionetics, a US bio weapons contractor who was responsible for the 1967 Marburg virus outbreak that killed 7 people. 🤔 Marburg Incident: https://is.gd/u1cmpo In it Hilleman reveals information that he and a colleague while working at Merck, discovered a new virus in the monkeys whose kidneys were being used as a substrate in the production of the polio vaccines. When I first heard it I was slightly incredulous because the implications are frightening, so I sought out corroborating evidence. After a couple weeks of searching I came across an interview of Hayflick where he is discussing the problems with using monkey kidneys as a substrate for vaccine production, in particular for the Polio vaccines. Well obviously my ears perked up and he even went on to name drop Hilleman and refer to his morbid discovery. The Virus you ask? Simian Virus 40 (SV40), that was found to be highly carcinogenic. Those two clips are sandwiched between a 2004 documentary called “The Origin of AIDS”. It’s extremely well done with historical footage and some serious investigative journalism spanning the globe, definitely watch it in full some time. The theory it proposes dovetails nicely with the other two clips. If what they propose is true, the implications boggle the mind. Personally, I don’t know if it’s the truth but it sure gets the wheels turning if you can view the evidence objectively. After you watch, let me know what you think below.👇🏻

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The Marburg virus, known as the mother of Ebola, broke out in three vaccine production facilities in 1967, causing deaths and injuries. The monkey supplier, Litton BioNetics, was also a biological weapons contractor for the military and the CIA. Dr. Maurice Hilleman, a vaccine expert, discovered that imported monkeys were carrying viruses, including the AIDS virus. The polio vaccine, derived from monkey organs, was contaminated with the SV40 virus. Independent journalist Tom Curtis published an article suggesting that the polio vaccine could have led to the spread of AIDS. However, the theory was challenged and the scientific community dismissed it. The true origins of AIDS remain uncertain.
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Speaker 0: The mother of Ebola is the Marburg virus that first broke out in 3 vaccine production facilities in 3 different parts of the world simultaneously in 1967, killing 7 people and injuring another 31. This grave risk came from the fact that the monkey supplier, Litton BioNetics, was also a leading biological weapons contractor, for the military and the CIA by 1969. With military and White House influence, no one would dare declare biokinetics as negligence and liability in any outbreak. Listen now to the voice of the world's leading vaccine expert, doctor Maurice Hilleman, chief of the Merck Pharmaceutical Company's vaccine division, relay this problem he was having with imported monkeys. He best explains the origin of AIDS, But what you are about to hear was cut from any public disclosures. Speaker 1: And I think that vaccines have to be considered the The bargain basement technology for the 20th century. Speaker 2: Fifty years ago, when Morris Tilleman was a high school student in Miles City, Montana. He hoped he might qualify as a management trainee for the local JCPenney store. Instead, he went on to pioneer more breakthroughs in vaccine research and development than anyone in the history of American medicine. Among the discoveries he made at Merck are vaccines for mumps, rubella, and measles. Speaker 3: Tell me, how you found SV 40 and the polio vaccine. Speaker 1: Well, that was a Merck thing. Yeah. I came to Merck, and I was going to develop vaccines. And we had wild viruses in those days. Wild monkey kidney viruses and so forth. And I finally, after 6 months, gave up. I said that you cannot develop vaccines with these damn monkeys. We're we're finished, and if I can't do something about it, I'm gonna quit. Mhmm. I'm gonna try it. Mhmm. So I went down to see Bill Nann at The zoo in Washington, DC, and and I told Bill Nanna, I said, look. Here's a I got a problem. I don't know what the hell we're doing. Bill Mann is a very bright guy. I said these lousy monkeys are picking it up and while being stored in the airports in transit with these loading, offloading, he said. It's very simple. He said, you go ahead. Get your monkeys out of West Africa. Get the African green. Bring them into Madrid. One load them there. There are no other traffic through there for animals, fly them into Philadelphia, pick them up, or fly them into New York and pick them up right off the airplane. So I brought African Greens, and I didn't know we were importing AIDS virus at the time. Speaker 3: And when it was To you, we have to save virus. I don't know. It was you, we have to save virus. We have to It became historic. It became historical. Speaker 4: Verbal due to the overbangs. So Speaker 1: what he did, He he brought in I mean, we brought in those monkeys. Now we had those. So this was the solution Because those monkeys didn't have the wild viruses, but we had all these Speaker 3: Why didn't the greens have the wild viruses since they came back after? Speaker 1: Because they weren't, well, they weren't They weren't being infected in these group holding things with all the other 40 different viruses. But they had Speaker 3: the ones they brought from the jungle, Yeah. Speaker 1: They had those, but there were relatively few. What what you do is you have a gang housing, you're gonna have an epidemic Transmission of infection in a confined space. Speaker 5: Oh, it's not that bad. Speaker 1: So, anyway, the Greens came in. Now we had these, and then we're we're taking our seed stocks to clean them up, and god, now I'm discovering new viruses. So I said, shoot, that's priest. Well, I got an invitation from his sister Kinney Foundation, you know, which was the opposing Foundation. You know, it was the live virus. Alright. Yeah. They they jumped on the savings bandwagon. Mhmm. And they asked me to come down and give a talk I had a sister Kenny Foundation meeting, and I said it was an international meeting. I was like, god. What am I gonna talk about? I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna talk about the detection of nondetectable viruses as a topic. Speaker 6: There were those Who didn't want a live virus vaccine. They concentrated. National Federation for Infantile Paralysis concentrated all its efforts on getting more and more people to use the killed virus vaccine while they were supporting me for research on the live virus Speaker 1: So now I gotta have something, you know, that's gonna attract attention. Uh-huh. So I thought, gee, that damn STD 40 I mean, that that damn that vacuuming the agents that we have. I'm gonna just pick that particular one. Mhmm. That virus has got to be in in vaccines, and, It's gonna be in the Sabin's vaccine, so I quickly tested it. Sure enough, it was in there, and we'll be down. So now, so I'll go ahead and Speaker 3: So you just took stocks of Sabin's vaccine off the shelf here at Merck? Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that had not been made at Merck it was made at Merck Speaker 3: You were making it for Sabin at Yeah. Speaker 1: It was made before I came. Speaker 3: Yeah. But at this point, Sabin is still just doing these massive field trials. Mhmm. Okay. Speaker 1: In Russia and so forth. So I go down. I talked about the the detection of non tech first, and I told Albert Speaker 3: But at this point, Sabin is still just doing these massive field trials. Speaker 1: Mhmm. Okay. In Russia and so forth. So I go down. I talked about the, the detection of non tech I told Albert. I said, listen, Albert. I said, you know, you and I are good friends. But I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna go down there. You're gonna get I'm gonna talk about a virus that's in your vaccine. If you're gonna get rid of the virus, don't worry about it. You're gonna get rid of it. But, So, of course, Hunter was very upset with me. What did he say? Well, he said basically that this This is just another obfuscation that is going to upset vaccines. And I said, well, you know, you're absolutely right. And I said, we have a new era here. We have a new era of the Protection. And the important thing is to get rid of these viruses. Speaker 3: Why would he call it an obfuscation if it was a virus Speaker 1: that was contaminated? Because we well, there are 48 different viruses in these vaccines, anyway, that we were inactivating. And, but Speaker 3: you weren't activating the That's correct. Speaker 1: No. That's right. But yellow fever vaccine had leukemia virus in it, and, you know, this is in the days of Very crude science. So, anyway, I went down and talked to him, and I always said, well, why are you concerned about it? I said, well, tell Speaker 3: me about it. Speaker 1: I said, I have a feeling in my bones that this virus is different. I I don't know why to tell you this, but I've been around biology a long time. I just think this virus may have some long term effects. Mhmm. And he said, what? Cancer. Speaker 6: I love it. Speaker 3: I love it. Go ahead. Yeah. Speaker 1: No. I said, Albert, I said, you you probably think I'm nuts, but Speaker 3: I just have that feeling. Well, in the Speaker 1: meantime, we had taken this virus person Speaker 3: put it into monkey and into hamsters. Speaker 1: Uh-huh. So we had this meeting, and that was started the topic of the day, and the jokes that were going around was, gee, we would win the Olympics because, the The Russians went on. They loaded down these tumors. This is where the vaccine was being tested. This was this was Yeah. Right. Understand. Right. So, it'd be really destroyed. Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it was a big image. Yeah. Right. Speaker 1: So this sort of a topic. Anyway Speaker 3: Was this the Cancer Society meeting in the New York, kind Speaker 1: of time? This was the, Speaker 3: sister Kenny. Oh, it's sister Kenny. Right. Speaker 1: And, Del Becco he said, that he saw problems with these kinds of agents. Speaker 3: Why didn't this get out in the press? Speaker 1: Well, I guess it did. I don't remember. We had no press release. I mean, obviously, you don't go up. This is a scientific affair within Speaker 7: An historic victory over a dread disease has dramatically unfolded at the University of Michigan. Here, scientists usher in a new medical age with the monumental reports that prove the Salk vaccine against crippling polio to be a sensational success. It's a day of triumph for 40 year old doctor Jonas e Salk, developer of the vaccine. He arrives with Basil O'Connor, head of the National Foundation For Infantile Paralysis, which Finance the tests. Hundreds of reporters and scientists from all over the nation gather for the momentous announcement. Speaker 6: It was too much of a show. There was too much Hollywood, there was too much exaggeration, and the impression in 1957 that was no. In 1954, that was given was that the problem had been solved, polio had been conquered. Speaker 1: But, anyway, we know it was the virus seed stock for making the vaccine. Vaccine. Mhmm. That virus, you see, is 1 in 10,000 particles is not inactivated by fermata. It was good science at the time because that was what you did. You didn't worry about these wild viruses. Speaker 3: So you discovered it wasn't being inactivated in the salt factory? Speaker 1: So then, the next thing we know is 3, 4 weeks after that, and I found that there were tumors popping out of these hamsters. Speaker 0: Despite AIDS and leukemia suddenly becoming pandemic from wild viruses. Hilleman said this was good science at that time. So imagine what bad science might yield, science directed for profit and population control by the military medical petrochemical pharmaceutical cartel. Speaker 5: In 1992, an independent journalist Tom Curtis published an article with unexpected consequences. Speaker 8: I had a source in California, an AIDS treatment activist, who, sent me a packet of, clips one day saying, this is a bombshell story waiting for an investigative reporter. What what I had been sent was a couple of documents, saying, well, it's all very well and good to talk about these bizarre tribal rituals or other possible explanations of the cause of AIDS, but it is a fact that the virus, the monkey virus SV 40, was transmitted to millions of people across the world. And, and they sort of planted the suggestion that something similar might have happened, with AIDS. Speaker 5: This revelation was a bombshell. Tom Curtis speculated that if during the fifties, polio vaccines were contaminated with the monkey virus, s s v forty. Something similar could have happened with AIDS. SIV, the ancestor of the AIDS virus, is also a monkey virus. And Curtis connected this fact to a mass polio vaccination campaign in the Congo. Speaker 8: It looked at The polio campaign that doctor Koprowski had, undertaken in the former Belgian Congo In the middle to late 19 fifties, and, I did focus on that campaign because of certain geographic similarities to Where scientists were saying AIDS had, begun in the human population, which was in this same region. Speaker 5: And this particular region of Africa is the epicenter of the AIDS epidemic. Curtis' hypothesis jolted the scientific community because it implicated one of its own, Hilary Koprowski, a renowned researcher and pioneer in the fight against polio. Speaker 9: There was a a tremendous feeling in the scientific community That they were somehow endangered. If you had journalists writing articles in the Rolling Stone, My god. What about our dignity? So there was a lot of concern from that viewpoint. There was a lot of concern that it was written by a person who was a professional journalist and that they were afraid that people would no longer immunize their children against polio. Speaker 5: How could a simian virus possibly contaminate a vaccine? Curtis's argument was extremely serious because it put in question the manufacturing of polio vaccine, one of modern medicine's greatest triumphs. To understand what could have happened, we have to return to the polio years. In 1958, America was beginning to recover from a scourge that had haunted it for more than 50 years, polio. The disease is still incurable at the time, paralyzed and killed, 90,000,000 Americans were vaccinated in one of the largest mass vaccination campaigns ever. Polio vaccine, one of modern medicine's greatest successes, Made its inventor, Jonas Salk, a hero. Speaker 7: 164,000,000 Americans do say nothing of all the other people in the world that'll profit from Speaker 10: your discount. Speaker 5: But polio vaccine had one distinctive feature. It was the first to be derived from monkey organs. Mass commercialization began and gave rise to the development of an enormous market for monkeys used both as test animals and as raw material from which to create the polio vaccine. Entire shipments of macaque arrived in America from India and the Philippines. Speaker 9: To make primary cultures of monkey kidneys, You needed monkey kidneys. You needed flasks or bottles. You needed culture medium, And this was usually supplemented with fetal calf serum or with horse serum, which was used Extensively. And, you were in business. 1 obtains a piece of tissue, And, then one divides it. And the way you divide it is you first of all, in the crudest sense, you take a pair of scissors, And you snip, snip, snip, snip, snip until you have a suspension of cells that is Relatively crude. That is there are lumps and bumps in there. Put them into the flasks. Let them settle down and make a multilayer of cells. Add poliovirus, and then you would collect the liquid from the cultures, Filter out the cells, remove the cell remains, and then you would have a virus suspension. Then you could Kill it with formaldehyde, put it into bottles, and call it polio vaccine. That was it. So trying to get entirely pure cultures as primary cultures is very difficult. You can have a culture of monkey kidney cells that looks to be very pure. But if you Look at those on the surface or if you stain them or you look with a special microscope, you can see that there are other cell types present in there. Speaker 5: And other viruses could have infected these other cells. Driven to eradicate 1 disease, we risked creating another. Scientists and governmental organizations knew this. The powerful Food and Drug Administration was aware of the risks but kept the information hidden. Speaker 10: It was the researcher, Venice Eddy, At the Food and Drug Administration, who first had indications that these viruses existed, and Her findings were essentially suppressed. There is a lot of inner discussion within, FDA, of her taking examples of mouse tumors to her supervisors, And they're seemingly being biased against the possibility that this could be a nasty virus. She did, however, present her work at a New York meeting To which again she was criticized for doing that. Subsequently, doctor Sweet and doctor Hilleman found the same virus, having heard about it, And, named it SV 40. Speaker 5: During this same period, The terminology for these monkey viruses was established and published in the medical literature. SV 40 was only the 40th virus in a very long list. Speaker 9: We should have stopped using monkey kidney tissues, I think, for virus production in 1960, and we've continued to do so. The drug companies are the ones who really determine this. They have developed facilities. They develop processes that would cost them a lot of money if they had to do it a different way. The thing that makes me physically angry Is the fact that we now have the genetic ability to make synthetic polio vaccine from recombinant proteins and we are not doing that we continue to take ground up monkey parts and inject them into children. Speaker 5: Using monkeys to manufacture vaccines was and still remains dangerous. Curtis' basis for his theory was correct. Polio vaccines at the time were contaminated with a monkey virus, But that didn't explain the appearance of AIDS. Curtis proposed that Koprowski made his vaccine using a monkey other than the macaque, The African green monkey. But this was a mistake. The African green monkey does carry an IV. But this is not the direct ancestor of HIV one, our AIDS virus. Speaker 9: Hillary Koprowski felt that his honor had been filed and that he had been done serious injury. The Rolling Stone folded under And publicly apologize for having published the article. And that was, as they say, that for the time being. Speaker 8: I thought, you know, people should think for themselves, evaluate the evidence, decide. And mostly, I thought they should simply test the vaccine to find out whether this theory had merit or not, because theories are the way scientific knowledge advances. And even theories that turn out not to be true help advance scientific knowledge. So I felt it was a legitimate question, And I felt a little bit under siege by the medical community and, and some in the science press and so on who were Acting like I was an apostate. You know? Speaker 5: Hilary Koprowski, the man Curtis had attacked, is a well known and respected scientist, a pioneer of research into rabies and polio. He is also an expert on cancer and AIDS. Back in the polio years, Hilary Koprowski was a young Polish researcher. Brilliant and ambitious, he was determined to make a name for himself in his newly adopted country, The USA. In 1950, he secretly tested his first prototype of a live oral polio vaccine On 20 handicapped children at Letchworth Village in New York state. When the scientific community learned that Hilary Koprowski was experimenting on human beings, it was a scandal, even though the test was deemed to have done no harm. The community's condemnation of Koprowski's secret research led to the loss of official support for his work with preference shifting to Jonas Salk's injected polio vaccine, but Koprowski refused to quit. With the support of a large pharmaceutical company, Lederle, he proceeded to test different versions of his oral polio vaccine on small groups of human subjects, 52 at Sonoma, 53 at Letchworth Village, 54 at Woodbine, and 55 at Clinton Farms. A tragic event lent him unexpected support. On April 23, 1955, 260 children injected with Salk's vaccine became sick. 11 died. The investigation showed that some of the Salk vaccine lots were defective. Confidence in Salk's injected vaccine was shaken, clearing the way for Koprowski to assert himself. Speaker 9: One hand, you had Albert Sabin who looked on this as an enormous challenge. On the other hand, Hillary Approached it from the standpoint that, yes, this was a challenge. Yes, this was a medical problem. Yes. It was gonna be interesting to solve it. And, yes, we'll go off and do it by whatever means that are available to us that are illegal. So you have these 2 conflicting individuals who are all working towards the same goal, And it's, one of the great dramas of modern times of how they interacted and how they worked. They were willing to go and take, subjects who may or may not have been informed of what they were doing, they were able they were willing to go, to the backside of the moon if it meant that they could find out whether or not they had a viable product. Speaker 5: To win this race, they have to test. And to test, they need the largest possible population of nonimmunized people, something no longer available in America. The first to prove the reliability and safety of his vaccine will be the winner. Sabin makes a secret deal with his native country, the USSR, where he will vaccinate more than 6,000,000 people in Latvia, Estonia and Kazakhstan. Koprowski chooses an African country, the Belgian Congo, a long standing possession of King Leopold and the jewel of his colonial empire. Because of the Congo's uranium mines, Commercial accords had existed between America and Belgium since the 2nd World War. This was also a country with one of Africa's best organized and most modern health care infrastructures. The Efficient Organization of Medical Records made the local population extremely suitable for experimentation. Speaker 4: Return to political quiet After the recent disturbances, Leopoldville engages in an all out fight against infantile paralysis, crowding every clinic with mothers and their children. The latter to receive orally administered shots of a new vaccine against the scourge of childhood. It is a live virus preparation developed in the United States by Philadelphia's doctor Hillary Koprowski. And it differs from our famed soft vaccine in that it does away with injections. It must taste Good if the children's receptivity to it is a criterion. Speaker 9: Hillary Koprowski went to the Congo and took people who had been abused, mistreated, and had been the victims of, If you wanna put it that way, of colonial expansion for nearly a 100 years and use them. The ethics of that, I don't think occurred to anyone at the time. The opportunity was there. It was legal. It was allowed by the Belgian government. They went in and did their job, and that was it. No big deal. Speaker 5: Sabin and Koprowski They conducted their experiments at the same time with the same type of vaccine. No AIDS cases were detected in Russia, But in the Congo, the first known HIV infections surfaced a couple of years after the start of the vaccinations. Was it coincidental, or was there, as Curtis suggested, something different with Koprowski's vaccine? To get a definitive answer, Curtis had tried to get the vaccine used in the Congo tested, something Cecil Fox had wanted to do in 1985. Speaker 9: When I went to the Food and Drug Administration as a government employee to ask if I could obtain Early lots of polio vaccine to test for the presence of sequences or presence of viruses in them. I was told that they didn't exist. Well, I was told they did exist, but something happened, and then they didn't exist. And they were unavailable to me. I could not get them. I could not find them. There was no way I could go through and find out what they had in their freezers. I was told by other people that all of that work had already been done, and it was not true. Now I had to take that on faith. I did not believe them. So, because I work for the government, I had to kind of let it day where it was, I could not pursue it more energetically. Speaker 5: Why wasn't Cecil Fox able to gain access to the Congo polio samples, maybe because in 1958, Albert Sabin analyzed Koprowski's vaccine, Called CHAT and found it to be unstable and contaminated by an unknown virus, which he called virus X. He told Koprowski about the findings. The response was immediate. Dear Albert, I have carefully considered your extraordinary letter of November 17th with its even more extraordinary enclosures. Like you, I am trying to put myself in your position, but I cannot imagine for a moment that I would dismiss 10 years of work by another investigator With 1 airy wave of an inter spinal needle. I'm also sure that you are familiar with the maxim of La Rochefoucauld. Sabin replied, Sir, your letter of December 1st does not merit a reply. It is clear that dispassionate analysis and discourse are impossible with you. Sarcasm and invectives do not take the place of reproducible facts in science. Farewell, my one time friend and colleague. Koprowski's CHAT vaccine was, therefore, less safe than claimed and possibly even contaminated. Sabin decided to make his findings public. In June 1960, his vaccine, Deemed more reliable was chosen to replace Salk's. Koprowski lost the race, but ironically, Sabin's vaccine wasn't perfect either. Like Salk's, It was contaminated by the macaque monkey virus, SV 40. Hamilton believed that immensely powerful medical and pharmaceutical interests play a huge role in science. Because these institutions are preoccupied with ever greater profits, scientists bear the responsibility to guard against potential dangers to society that they might find in the course of their research. Speaker 11: The idea that this great triumph, and it certainly was a wonderful triumph of defeating polio was accompanied by a disaster as big as AIDS. And, obviously, it knocks you off your, plenty of success to have to admit that this even might have happened, let alone that it actually did happen. And I seem to encounter this every time I I talk to people who are connected with medical science. They just don't want to hear about this this theory. Speaker 12: Is there a possibility here scientists simply don't want to know, don't want to accept perhaps at least the moral, if not the legal liability for What has been done for the AIDS virus? Speaker 11: I feel that this is so and it's one of the most worrying aspects of the case. I feel it's not only, the origin of AIDS that is in question here. It is the conduct of science Towards this hypothesis, which has been one of almost paranoid rejection, I would say. I think I would not exaggerate To describe it as medical science's worst hated hypothesis, and there seems to be a great reluctance to publish Anything about it or to test any of the available evidence that could be more directly tested. Speaker 5: For Bill Hamilton, there was a 95% possibility that the theory would prove valid, So he decided to leave for the Congo with Ed Hooper to follow-up on the chimpanzees. In a letter he sent to the British Science Academy, the prestigious Royal Society, he wrote. Speaker 13: It's inspired by the extraordinary fact But despite a very plausible hypothesis that the human version of the AIDS virus first took off in humans From chimpanzees and exactly the Upper Congo area, no one has been there to collect samples for analysis for SIVs, But we hope to collect and bring back faeces in alcohol from as many chimps and bonobos as we can approach. Speaker 5: Bill Hamilton returned to the Congo to collect samples. During that second visit, he contracted malaria and died in March 2000. Speaker 14: He went to Africa. He died because of his 2nd trip to Africa. What was his 2nd trip to Africa? Collecting chimpanzee stools because we know that you can get from chimpanzee stools, you can amplify out genetic material. And this was a way of because we're not allowed to shoot chimpanzees for, obviously, I mean, as Chris is. And this is the substitute, so you're getting chimps here. Look, You can say Bill Hammond was ethereal. He was, had these odd ideas. He was this, and he was that. But what was the guy doing? Collecting data. Data collecting. So he knew very well that maybe it was a you could say it was a wacky theory. It was a possible idea, And he knew the only way to resolve it was by getting data. So you have this remarkable sort of figure, Comes up with some wacky ideas. Comes up with some brilliant ideas. Bigger scientist than I. But what was he doing? Scientific method. Speaker 5: Before his trip to Africa, Hamilton had asked the Royal Society to stage a debate on the origins of AIDS. After he died, Robin Weiss and Simon Wayne Hobson, the remaining co organizers, decided to go ahead with the conference. The scientific stakes were huge. There would be a chance for a debate between the supporters of the cut hunter theory and oral polio vaccine theory. It would be the first time in the history of the Royal Society that a nonscientist was allowed to debate with some of the most respected experts in their fields. Speaker 13: When I arrived at the conference that morning, I was feeling I was feeling quite nervous, I I freely admit. I didn't know what to expect. I never even attended a scientific conference of this type before. So I walked in there with my sheaves of notes and my speech prepared, and, I Had made a decision before I arrived that if the theory was was fairly dealt with by the scientific community, That at the end of the conference, if I had the opportunity, I was gonna stand up from the floor and commend the scientists present on their openness and honesty And say that I felt at this stage, it was time for me as an investigator, who who was originally a journalist back in the eighties, To withdraw from the debate, to make the materials that I collected available to the scientists if they wish to use them, But to withdraw from the debate and leave it to them to take it from there. Speaker 15: And why is the theory so hated? Well, most of all, of course, because it suggests the west gave Africa AIDS. But its critics say it also undermines confidence in vaccination, so it jeopardizes the campaign to eradicate polio. It blackens the reputation of a man hailed as a hero, Hillary Kebrowski, And it also shows how dangerous animal viruses can be, and that threatens research on using animal organs for human transplants. Speaker 16: I am not to defend myself. Hooper is to defend himself. Certainly, this meeting is very welcome. I think it's a good meeting. It's an unusual meeting. A journalist presents a hypothesis without facts and here come the scientists and give him all the scientific facts. Speaker 14: We need you simply to get the protagonists together. This means get the protagonists together, not have some sort of whitewash where you get sort of, Discuss it here. You've get the get the people. Get Koprowski and Hooper in the same room Chain exchanging comments. Speaker 3: I think we're gonna have, a real debate today. I think it's gonna be a worthwhile debate. Speaker 13: I don't think it's between Koprowski and myself. I think it's, about something far more important than that. Speaker 16: To whom? Speaker 15: To who? To who? To who? Speaker 16: I'm not talking to him. I'm talking The audience are Speaker 5: focused. When Hooper arrived at the conference, he did not know that the die had already been Speaker 14: And we did that over that OPV conference again. Huge amount of criticism from my colleagues, huge amount of criticism from our colleagues. But I think that it launched the abscess And I don't think Cooper could prove his case. And I think our subsequent work shows that it doesn't fit. But it could have. Robin was right. He was a cloche butt. It didn't? Speaker 5: From the start of the conference, arguments were piled up against Hooper's theory. Even the date HIV emerged among humans was challenged with theoretical calculations that it already existed in 1931, long before the Congo vaccinations took place. But the final blow was an announcement that samples of CHAT vaccine had been located, tested, and contained no trace of HIV, SIV, Or chimp DNA. The conclusions were final and left little room for Hooper to respond. Speaker 1: Mister Hooper has used the word smoking guns. There is no gun. There is no bullet. There is no shooter. There is no motive. There is only smoke Created by mister Hooper. Speaker 13: I think the smokescreen that has appeared today has been a smokescreen from the people who made the vaccine. Speaker 5: This dramatic turn of events had eliminated the oral polio vaccine theory from the scientific debate on the origins of AIDS. Speaker 17: This did offend Ed Hooper because he was clearly the underdog at the meeting. But science is a very cruel culture. We go by evidence. And although we may be fooled In our interpretation, we may fool ourselves in misinterpreting evidence. In the end, Hard evidence wins the day. Speaker 14: Science is not like is not democratic in that respect. It's not like, well, you have the you have Your opinion, and I have mine, and we agree to differ. In science, you have your theory, and I have my hypothesis. If I can kill your hypothesis, I can kill your hypothesis. Your hypothesis doesn't exist. I can wipe it out. It's it's not Appreciate it, hun. Scientists are making hypotheses every day, and they're breaking them. We call it hypothesis breaking. Hypothesis making and hypothesis breaking. And we break more hypotheses than we make. Speaker 5: But the scientific evidence that signaled the death knell for the polio vaccine theory Still needed to be re examined. Exactly what was tested? Speaker 17: The actual samples That were used in the Congo between late 1957 and the beginning of 1960, of course, don't exist anymore, they were used. But one of the samples tested was the very same lot of virus as Hooper thinks is by far the most likely to have been contaminated, that was used in the Congo, the CHAT 10 A 11. Speaker 5: Are these really the same samples? Speaker 17: And this was discovered Here in the UK, who had received it in 1981 from the State Serum Institute in Stockholm, Who in turn had received it from the Wistau Institute around the time it was made. But and it was sealed and had never been opened. Speaker 5: The very organizer of the Royal Society Conference admits that samples of the CHAT vaccine used in the Congo no longer exist. So for this sample that remains sealed since it was made in Koprowski's laboratory, all one can say for certain is that it was never used in the Congo. In all scientific rigor, how can it be used as the decisive proof against the oral polio vaccine theory? Speaker 9: This was another event in which the scientists eventually conjoined and Had a public lynching in London for the Royal Society in which they once again claimed to have laid rest to the idea that's a very good question. There are still great gaping holes in their story. Speaker 13: I don't I have I see no evidence Of people examining the cells from the different monkeys they were using for the final passage to see whether They had any contraindications for humans. It was an extraordinary lapse, and everyone was doing it. Speaker 5: Between 1957 and 1959, 1,000,000 people received experimental vaccine. These trials were criticized by the World Health Organization. In a confidential letter dated November 11, 1958, one of its members wrote, The Belgian Congo trial was, in my opinion, an excellent example of how such large scale studies Should not be carried out. Speaker 13: It would be absolutely unfair if Responsibility for this this sequence of events, for the making of the vaccine in chimpanzee cells, was to fall solely on the shoulders of Paul Osterreeth. He was the corporal or sergeant, but we must look for the generals here. His boss, Gilane Courtois, the head of the medical laboratory in Stanleyville, Clearly approved this course of action. There's no doubt about that. And just a few months before he began making the vaccine in chimp cells, Osterath was being trained in tissue culture techniques At the Wistar Institute, he was called there at the specific request of Hilary Koprowski. The person with overall responsibility For this sequence of events, without a doubt, is doctor Koprowski. Without his approval, without his direction, this Sequence of events would not have taken place. Speaker 16: I have no knowledge about it. I don't think the Belgians have knowledge about it. You should stake his evidence with grain of salt. Speaker 15: I mean, is it is it possible that that that this was done without you knowing, that chimpanzee kidneys were used without you knowing about it? Speaker 16: No. There was no possibility to do something like that. Speaker 5: Can we be satisfied with such an answer When it is not backed up by any proof nor any studies, can we forget that 1,000,000 people received an experimental vaccine that may be linked to the origins of the AIDS pandemic. From our inquiry in the Congo, Thanks to our witnesses and Ed Hooper's documents, we have discovered how the Stanleyville laboratory could produce the CHAT vaccine. It would have been perfectly normal, but the Lindy camp was something unique in the fact that its chimpanzees were used in producing the vaccine. But does this resolve the question of the origins of AIDS? Final proof can only be the testing of a vaccine sample actually used in the Congo, but until now, none has been found. As long as the key actors of this story keep silent, there will always be a doubt. During the inauguration of the Stanleyville laboratory in 1957, Koprowski made a speech about his polio research. The last sentence is foreboding. With these facts in mind, we must conclude that the price that each of us is asked To pay at this time in order to safeguard the comfort of future generations is, in truth, negligible. 3 years after the Royal Society conference, where are we? The main scientific argument used to destroy the oral polio vaccine hypothesis, the dating of the HIV virus to the 19 thirties, has been challenged by new studies. The true scientific debate on the origins of AIDS Today, most governments are cutting research funding, leaving pharmaceutical companies to establish their own medical priorities with limited public oversight. Contaminated blood, mad cow disease, and the emergence of new, unexplained diseases are only a few examples pointing to the fact that little has changed. As Bill Hamilton warned, If the relationship between pharmaceutical groups and science is not challenged, other catastrophes may already be in the making. Speaker 18: As a consequence of these unfortunate events associated with the use of primary monkey kidney cells in the early sixties And the emergence of approximately 20 or 30, viruses and different viruses found in the cells and the necessity for tests to exclude them and all of the other, efforts in this regard. The, my proposal of using norm My normal human cell strains for this purpose, in particular, WI 26, which became widely for experiments that addressed this problem. The, There occurred another event that was even of greater consequence, and that was that in efforts To explore the use of other monkey species for vaccine development And manufacture, and hopefully to find a species that lack these dangerous viruses. The Maurice Hilleman at Merck And by the name of Benjamin Sweet, did experiments. I believe it was with the green monkey, sarcopithecus aetiops, which revealed something very interesting. I won't go through the technology in in which this was discovered. It's rather detailed and Irrelevant other than the conclusion, and the conclusion was that green monkey cells, yielded a result implying that a new virus was present in the cells from from Pheresis and cynomolgus monkeys that had very strange properties, And they called this virus, I believe they were the ones who named it, SV 40. All of the viruses found in monkey kidney were given the name SV, standing for simian virus, and they were numbered. This one then received the number 40. And about the same time, Events were occurring that would link with this observation in And, at the National Institutes of Health, there was a woman scientist who was working in the, What's called the division of biologic standards, which at that time was the unit at the NIH, not at the FDA. They were not at the FDA that time. This unit was at the NIH, and its its purpose was to approve or disapprove vaccines for sale in the United States. It was called the DBS, standing for the Division of Biologics Standards. It was run by a man by the name of Roderick Murray. He was actually a South African by birth, A rather conservative figure. And, in one of his labs, this woman scientist, whose name hopefully will surface in a minute or 2, was in the process of testing vaccines submitted for approval. And in the course of her research, and again, I won't go into the technical details, she inoculated Some of the vaccine preparations sent for testing and approval into hamster cheek pouches. The hamster has cheek pouches in which it stores its food for later consumption or storage, so it packs its cheeks with these Food particles. The cheek pouch is a particularly interesting organ because it's it has, Very little in the way of immunity. And consequently, it Can grow things that ordinarily would not grow in other tissues, and so it's a very useful organ. The lady's name is Bernice Eddy, e d d y. Bernice, who I was Who I know well, at that time, inoculated polio preparations into the cheek pouch of hamsters and discovered that tumors were produced, which was quite alarming. Later Developments, and these have developments occurred rather quickly, showed that that the virus that there was a virus involved And that the virus was the same one discovered by Sweden Hilliman at Merck called SV 40. And SV 40 has the alarming capability not only of producing tumors in the cheek pouch of hamsters, But worst of all, when introduced into cell cultures of human cells, frequently causes them to transform into cell lines or cancer cells. Obviously, very obvious, probably the worst calamity you can think of. Furthermore, by this time, in the early sixties, the Salk vaccine had been approved and widely used. Sabin's vaccine, I believe, was just also being used in many countries, including the US. And it was easy to learn that several 1000000 people worldwide had received those vaccines that contained at no extra cost SV 40 virus.
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I analyzed a series of posts that questioned the credibility of studies claiming that COVID vaccines saved millions of lives. The authors highlighted multiple conflicts of interest among the researchers and institutions involved. They expressed skepticism about the objectivity of the studies and suggested that there is a vested interest in promoting the vaccines. The overall tone of the posts was critical and distrustful.

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I came across this post and saw quite a lot of links included that are supposed to be evidence debunking the claims he references. So I thought I’d have a peek at them and see if there are any potential COI’s that may give someone pause about the claims made. Let’s have a quick look and you tell me.

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(23)00079-8/fulltext This one is quite ironic and one author provides “training” for AstraZeneca so I’m sure there is no existing bias. Moving on….

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext#:~:text=Based%20on%20official%20reported%20COVID,%2C%20and%20Dec%208%2C%202021 Hmmm GlaxoSmithKline, WHO, CEPI, Gavi, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and Moderna affiliations. Definitely not worried about the results interpreted at all in this one.

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https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33XF3CN An “article” from AFP Fact Check AFP only receives its funding from the major tech companies and basically every MSM outlet.

Report falsely claims Covid vaccines killed 17 million worldwide Public health authorities say the Covid-19 vaccines have saved lives, but a Canadian report shared across platforms estimates the shots have killed 17 million people globally. This is false; government agencies and independent experts worldwide told AFP the findings are flawed and that only a minuscule percentage of... factcheck.afp.com

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10254949/ This one is affiliated with Johns Hopkins, CEPI, the international vaccine access center and written by the man, the myth, the legend Peter Hotez. Nothing to see here totally on the up and up.

COVID-19 vaccines and the pandemic: lessons learnt for other neglected diseases and future threats Through the experiences gained by accelerating new vaccines for both Ebola virus infection and COVID-19 in a public health emergency, vaccine development has benefited from a ‘multiple shots on goal’ approach to new vaccine targets. This ... ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(23)00039-X/fulltext Pretty much every author is affiliated with the company who manufactures the COVID vaccine in Brazil who works with AstraZeneca. I’m sure the money they receive from them has zero impact on their interpretation of the results and they would for sure would have reported these findings regardless.

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https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/analysis-claiming-covid-19-vaccines-killed-17-million-people-flawed/ Health feedback, yet another extremely reputable source that gets its funding from the Poynter Institute, META, Tik Tok and is a member of the WHO Vaccine Safety Net. Definitely no COI’s there, it’s not like all of those institutions have censored and propagandized the world about how awesome the injections are.

Analysis claiming to find COVID-19 vaccines killed 17 million people is highly flawed, doesn’t account for COVID-19 mortality surges Claims that COVID-19 vaccination is responsible for excess mortality have commonly invoked population-level correlations as supporting evidence. Population-level analyses are relatively easy and quick to do, as the data is readily available. But they come with several caveats, meaning that their results need to be interpreted cautiously. Controlling for confounding factors, such as differences in the age structure of populations and differences in public health measures, is difficult to do with such analyses. Moreover, population-level observations don’t necessarily predict individual-level outcomes. healthfeedback.org

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And finally an article from MedScape claiming 3 Million lives have been saved by our lords and saviors the COVID injections. Quite the claim so I took a look at the “studies” it referenced to come to that tremendous conclusion. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/985529

COVID Vaccines Saved More Than 3 Million US Lives Since 2020 COVID-19 vaccinations prevented 3.2 million deaths and 18.5 million hospitalizations in the United States from December 2020 through November 2022. medscape.com

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Study 1 Dr. Gondi gets paid by the NYC Department of Health and Public Hygiene, I’m sure they have no interest in making their disastrous response look good. Dr. Chomsky was the 43rd Health Commissioner of NYC and actually oversaw the COVID vaccine campaign, definitely no reason for concern there. Dr. Galvani receives “personal fees” from Jannsen who had their own COVID vaccine. No problem right?

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Study 2 This was simply republished from the MMWR Mortal Weekly but don’t fret 4 of the investigators received support from Sanofi-Pasteur, Seqiris and Pfizer but definitely not related to the covid vaccines. Finally, the study is looking at nursing home residents so naturally you want to have guy who was a former chair of the “independent” Quality Committee at HCR Manorcare now Promedica Senior Cate and is one of the largest nursing home companies in the country.

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So to recap, I looked at the studies provided that are supposed to be evidence that the COVID vaccines saved millions of lives and I’m happy to report that almost every single study only has multiple conflicts of interests directly tied to the institutions and organizations who have a huge stake in having the public believe it.

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They think you are fucking dumb.

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Hey all, check my feed for another COI analysis forthcoming. This is the study: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-1754?utm_source=cmpnr&utm_campaign=lfa_240109_1&utm_content=1&cmp=1&utm_medium=email

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A study on the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine in children and adolescents during the Delta and Omicron periods is being promoted by individuals with ties to the bio-pharmaceutical industry. The study has 27 authors, some of whom have financial connections to industry and institutions. These connections raise questions about potential bias. The study concludes that the vaccine was effective, but considering the disclosed conflicts of interest, one should approach the conclusion with caution.

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Thread 🧵 Since everyone seemed to have really enjoyed the last COI post, let’s have a look another study being promoted by individuals deeply entrenched in the Bio-Pharmaceutical industry and who have never met a countermeasure or injection they didn’t like.

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Study: "Real Work Effectiveness of BNT162b2 Against Infection in Children and Adolescents" The first thing I noticed was that it has 27 authors on this one paper that’s A LOT of authors and it makes quite the claim. Namely that BNT162b2, Pfizer-BioNTech “was effective for various COVID-19–related outcomes in children and adolescents during the Delta and Omicron periods”. Ok fair enough but with that many people getting a byline I thought it may be prudent to have a look at the supplementary disclosure material provided for the study, which can be found here if you’d like to have a look yourself: https://rmed.acponline.org/authors//conflictFormServlet/M23-1754/ICMJE/M23-1754-Disclosures.pdf And here is a link to the study itself: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-1754?utm_source=cmpnr&utm_campaign=lfa_240109_1&utm_content=1&cmp=1&utm_medium=email

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The moral of this story is to always check the supplementary/funding material so that you can put what the authors claim in perspective based upon their financial ties to industry and institutions. People like Eric and Tim would much rather you just blindly believe what they post and not look into COI’s because they know that may inject some doubt in the providence of their claims which just so happen to, without exception, favor the use of costly bio-pharmaceutical interventions.

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Out of the 27 authors 11 reported something on their International Committee of Medical Journal Editors (ICMJE) Form. Let’s have a look at what they disclosed shall we? 1. Eric J Tchetgen Tchetgen has two ironically titled grant’s listed which you can see here. I used the NIH Reporter to look them up as you can see here and the total amount between both comes to: $3,367,481

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2. Yong Chen This gentleman had quite a lot to look through as far as grants and consulting fees. I have provided a screen of the grants one of which is worth $541,499,593! As you can see. It seems like Yong is kind of a big deal in the biostatistics world. He is a Professor at U of Penn and reports consulting fees from Pieces Tech and Harvard Pilgrim an insurance provider. Have a look at his extensive bio: https://penncil.med.upenn.edu/about-pi/

About The Director – PennCIL Lab – Improving Human Health by Prime Insights From Data penncil.med.upenn.edu

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Yong's Grants Continued

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More Yong Grants we all paid for.

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3. Jiang Bian Jiang reports 2 grants from the NIH both related to COVID research totaling: $3,199,190

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4. Christopher Forrest Chris reports that a portion of the infrastructure for this study was provided by the “Patient Centered Outcomes Research Institute” which I have never heard of, what could it be?

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The Patient Centered Outcomes Research Institute is a “non-profit” that has awarded $4.5 Billion for research projects and was authorized to be established through the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 where a Trust Fund was established. From the website: “Under the 2019 amendment to the authorizing law, the PCOR Trust Fund receives income from two funding streams: statutory appropriations from the general fund of the Treasury and a fee assessed on private insurance and self-insured health plans (the PCOR Trust Fund Fee). Prior to the 2019 amendment, the PCOR Trust Fund also received income from transfers from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid trust funds. PCORI receives 80 percent of the monies collected by the PCOR Trust Fund to support its research and programmatic funding and operations. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) receives the other 20 percent of Trust Fund monies to support dissemination and research capacity-building efforts”

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In other words YOU fund it if you are American and given the fact that it’s taxpayer funded and works directly with HHS I’m sure there is nothing to worry about as far as bias goes. https://www.pcori.org/research/about-our-research

About Our Research pcori.org

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5. Suchitra Rao Suchitra reported grants or contracts with BioFire, GlaxoSmithKline, and Sequiris.

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Sequiris is one of the world’s largest influenza vaccine companies according to their website. Nothing to see here right? https://www.cslseqirus.us

CSL Seqirus Learn more about how we're leveraging cutting-edge technology and proven expertise to develop influenza vaccines and respond to pandemic threats. cslseqirus.us

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Now who is Biofire? It is a division of Biomerieux, the company that actually built the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Stephan Bancel the current Moderna CEO and freshly minted billionaire because of it was actually the CEO of Biomerieux during the construction of WIV believe it or not. Biofire (quite the name) creates Tests for COVID-19 and other “pathogens” because of course they do. https://www.biofiredx.com As for GSK aka GlaxoSmithKline well you know what they do. I’m confident these connections to the pharmaceutical industry, specifically testing for COVID and making Flu vaccines doesn’t cloud Suchitra’s judgement at all in regard to their work determining that COVID injections are fantastic for children.

BioFire Diagnostics Home Page BioFire Diagnostics is the leader in syndromic infectious disease testing. biofiredx.com

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6. L. Charles Bailey Charles listed the RECOVER Program, yet another I was not familiar with.

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RECOVER is a $1.15 Billion research program started in the wake of COVID. I’m sure if the conclusion for the study I’m referencing was that COVID Vaccines are worthless for children and dangerous he would report it considering all of his funding for research comes from the government that continuously says they are “safe and effective”. Oh and he also receives support from the Patient Centered Outcomes Research Institute, the $4.5 Billion program referred to earlier. 🤷🏼‍♂️ https://recovercovid.org/about

RECOVER: Researching COVID to Enhance Recovery Learn about RECOVER research about Long COVID, infrastructure awardees, and study site information. recovercovid.org

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7. Megan L Fitzgerald Megan lists the Balvi Foundation to the Patient Led Research Collaborative. I’m sure like me, this is yet another entity you are not familiar with.

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The PLRC is funded by the BAVI Foundation which is a fund created by the founder of Ethereum Vitalik Buterin. However don’t worry because on their website that say “we regularly meet with the CDC, WHO, NIH and other official medical associations and governments”. Phew, thank god because I was starting to think there may be bias in their work. https://patientresearchcovid19.com

Patient Led Research Collaborative – for Long COVIDAccessibility ToolsIncrease TextDecrease TextGrayscaleHigh ContrastNegative ContrastLight BackgroundLinks UnderlineReadable FontResetSitemap patientresearchcovid19.com

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The BAVI Foundation cites a study on their website which in turn cites that its main author Athena Akrami is funded by none other than the Wellcome Trust the worlds third largest philanthropic foundation besides the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (2) and the Novo Nordisk Foundation (1). So that’s a relief, we can all rest easy knowing that Jeremy Farrar was the former Director of Wellcome Trust. She even has her own lab with the trust. https://www.sainsburywellcome.org/web/groups/akrami-lab

Akrami Lab | Sainsbury Wellcome Centre sainsburywellcome.org

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Here is the study Balvi Cites, it is a major promotor of Long COVID. I urge you to have a look at the “symptoms” they have listed here: https://www.thelancet.com/cms/10.1016/j.eclinm.2021.101019/attachment/921f00f5-bbfb-4cc3-82fe-9e06a5a93ea7/mmc1.docx It’s basically anything and everything that can be considered a symptom to human beings so that narrows it down. It also ensure future funding to study literally every symptom known to mankind, to be attributed to “Long COVID”. Quite convenient isn’t it?

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8. Kathryn Hirabayashi She is also affiliated with the $1.15 Billion RECOVER program.

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9. Alka Khaitan is also tied the RECOVER Program

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10. Hanieh Razzaghi is also tied the RECOVER Program

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That brings me to lucky number 11 and the last of our authors. Dr. Ravi Jhaver Dr. Ravi Jhaveri reports personal fees from AstraZeneca, personal fees from Seqirus(from earlier the flu vaccine maker), personal fees from Elsevier (a global leader in analytics and information), personal fees from Dynavax (a bio pharmaceutical company), personal fees from Sanofi (another pharmaceutical company) and personal fees from Pediatric Infectious Diseases Society (deep ties to the pharmaceutical industry) but don’t worry he checked the box ensuring us this money is unrelated to his work on the paper about covid injections for children.

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Well will you look at that, Dynavax has an expanded relationship with Bill Gates run CEPI to increase the supply of COVID-19 Vaccines. So his work determining the effectiveness of the covid injections in children definitely plays zero role with all of these COI’s he listed. Especially given his ties to Sanofi who has a booster of their own.

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So as you can see, you sometimes have to peel multiple layers back to find the real funding and interests involved in these studies. 11 out of the 27 authors of the study have extensive ties to major government grants, many they share in, pharmaceutical companies, medical technology companies and “non-profit” organizations such as Wellcome Trust. After becoming aware of these disclosures (which I’ll give them credit for disclosing at least) how confident are you in the conclusion made in the study they are listed on? That Pfizer-BioNTech “was effective for various COVID-19–related outcomes in children and adolescents during the Delta and Omicron periods”. Even though kids don’t get gravely ill from covid unless they have serious co-morbidities, develop natural immunity that the injections destroy if taken after already having covid and that there are thousands of reports that show they are seriously injuring and even causing the death of young people worldwide. Yet, they continually push them on the public.

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Do you know why? Because they think you are a fucking idiot.

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The posts discuss a study on the communication of COVID-19 misinformation by physicians on social media. The author questions the validity of the study and criticizes its claims. They also highlight the author's connection to the fluoride industry and raise concerns about potential conflicts of interest. The posts suggest that the study may have been a coordinated effort to target doctors who spread COVID-19 misinformation. Additionally, the author discovers a death certificate that raises questions about the COVID-19 vaccine mandate in Amherst, Massachusetts.

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Mega Thread 🧵 COI Analysis: "Communication of COVID-19 Misinformation On Social Media by Physicians in the US" You may remember this “study” that made the rounds back in August 2023. Well it’s making the rounds again with people like Dr. Stea and being used as proof that “Misinformation Kills”. This is such a sociopathic thing to say because he knows damn well there is ZERO way to prove that claim not to mention that the statement is itself in Misinformation. Yet he parrots it and provides a “study” while claiming that 1,100,000 lives could have been saved if only us plebs would have followed the “public health recommendations”. This unbelievably sycophantic statement was the last straw, I needed to look at this “study”. What I found left me dumbfounded, trust me this one is long but stick with it. The Study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2808358

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I’ll also note that the 1,100,00 lives saved claim isn’t even referenced in the study as far as I can tell, so he just inserted that to bolster his non-argument, it’s probably claimed in some other ludicrous paper. I’ve noticed this “study” has been used as a pretext to “prove” that misinformation actually causes “harm”. You see, they can’t do anything about their precious “misinformation” unless they can prove that is causing real world harm. That is what this entire “study” is about and the authors as well as anyone who shares it unironically should be laughed at for doing so. https://www.medpagetoday.com/podcasts/anamnesis/106007

MedPod Today: The Medical Misinformation Mess Three MedPage Today reporters discuss recent cases of doctors spreading fake news medpagetoday.com

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For the study they essentially cyber stalked 52 doctors who they claim are spreaders of “misinformation”. These screenshots are from the MedPage puff piece, the authors of it barely conceal their true intentions which is to ultimately get the 52 doctors license suspended for not falling in line with what authorities say is true. It’s absolutely detestable.

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God forbid they use their rights as a citizen based on their expertise as medical doctors to “discourage people from getting the COVID-19 vaccine” or talk about “unapproved” (an Orwellian slip) medications and treatments. These same people would be the first to defend giving a 10 year old Lupron off-label in order to freeze their puberty and destroy their endocrine systems because of transgender ideology but god forbid these doctors recommend one of the safest drugs administered to humans in history to undermine their precious mRNA platform. They even go as far as to say they were “spewing conspiracy theories”, they can’t even hide their contempt for the truth. Finally they trot out an “expert” named Nick Sawyer from UC Davis Health to state that the findings were “pretty damning, especially to medical specialty societies, board certifying bodies, and state medical boards, and federal agencies with jurisdiction over these doctors”. Their intentions couldn’t be more transparent, this was a coordinated operation to publish a study in a reputable journal, so that it could be pointed to by medical propagandists in order to give medical boards and federal authorities the pretext to go after the doctors who refuse to tow the line.

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Who wrote this screed? Well according to the byline there are 6 authors but the common denominator is Sarah Goff MD, PhD she runs the lab this paper came out of. All of the other Authors are undergrads, if you click there names it will take you to a page that shows this is the first paper they have ever been on.

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Sarah is Yale educated for her BS in Neurobiology and went to UMass for her Doctor of Philosophy and Public Health. Interesting combo.

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She was recently awarded a $3 Million grant from NIH to study the impact of Medicaid ACO’s on Mental Health for children. Ok now on to the paper itself.

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Let’s look at the Design which are based upon the CDC guidelines, so they have already dispensed with logic and have entered the political realm. The Setting is social media and MSM outlets and the Participants are the physicians they have decided to target using the data gleaned from those sources. Misinformation is taken as anything that steps outside the bounds of the official guidelines that left the US with the highest death rate for wealthy in the world during covid I might add. Here is the source for that statement: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/02/01/science/covid-deaths-united-states.html

U.S. Has Far Higher Covid Death Rate Than Other Wealthy Countries (Published 2022) Despite having one of the world’s most powerful arsenals of vaccines, the United States has failed to inoculate as much of its population as other wealthy nations. nytimes.com

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The results simply lay bare what they are worried about people thinking. Vaccine aren’t safe or effective, using non-approved medications because you must take the vaccine, the FDA said so. Thinking that masks, which are bacteria filled Petri dishes sitting an inch from your nose and mouth, aren’t healthy for you. Most of all though, don’t promote conspiracy theories about the origin of the virus or even dare to think that the government lies because that would make you a conspiracy theorist you horrible person. How dare you think.

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Conclusion: Needless to say, if you have already determined that the people you are going to target specifically for spreading “misinformation” that doesn’t align with government policy, your conclusion has been preordained. These filthy misinformation spreaders are causing real world harm and we need to invest a lot more into studying this. We also need to examine these potential word murderers intentions because there may be some legal or professional retribution we can dole out in order to make an example out of them.

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Another curious aspect to this study is that it states it is funded “via internal support by UofMass and Dr. Goff”. However if the study was self-funded by Dr. Goff and U Mass, why would they feel the need to place a disclaimer about the US Department of Veterans Affairs & US Government???

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This made me curious so I did a quick search on Sarah academic paper history. What I found was that she has wrote a couple papers that are housed on RAND Corps website? 🤔 Oddly enough she was writing about the importance of Fluoride Varnish for children 1-5 years old. Both published

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Both of the studies were published just months apart and are all about “Health Equity”, they need to know why mostly white kids are the only ones getting the Fluoride Varnish. I googled “fluoride varnish costs between 1 - 5 years old Massachusetts” and those studies were in the first 5 search results. Further down I found a presentation by the “Office of Oral Health Massachusetts Department of Public Health entitled “Public Health Dental Hygienist Toolkit” As luck would have it I had just stumbled upon exactly what the RAND studies were referring to, the need to increase Fluoride Varnish treatments on 1-5 year olds, especially because of “health equity” naturally with an emphasis on “underprivileged”communities. So what do they recommend? PHDH Presentation: https://www.mass.gov/doc/evidence-based-oral-disease-prevention-strategies/download

Not allowed | Mass Gov mass.gov

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Well firstly they immediately reference this as their “evidence” before continuing to the “data”.

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You know I’m finding that document, so a quick search later and presto I found the document the Massachusetts Department of Health uses to make recommendations in regards to what people should put on their kids teeth between the ages of 1-5. Notice how I highlighted the “American Dental Association Council on Scientific Affairs”? Sounds official right? They are a council of “experts” appointed by the American Dental Association. An organization who sits at the heart of American Dentistry their About Page on the website states: “Together with our 159,000+ members, the ADA has been driving dentistry forward for more than 160 years.” So basically they have controlled the Dentistry Industry since 1859, James Buchanan was the president the last time they weren’t involved. https://jada.ada.org/article/S0002-8177(14)64961-8/fulltext

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According the the Fluoride Action Network: “The ADA and the ADA Foundation received over $28 million from pharmaceutical companies, dental equipment manufacturers and insurance companies, from 2006 – 2009, according to a January 20, 2010, letter from the ADA’s Chief Financial Officer to U.S. Senator Charles Grassley.” This can’t possibly have any bearing on the recommendation can it? The major pharmaceutical companies that sell Fluoride are: Colgate, GlaxoSmithKline, Johnson & Johnson, Procter & Gamble and Pfizer” All the heavy hitters have a stake in the dentistry’s industry. The CDC named Fluoridation on of the “10 great public health achievements of the 20th century” so I think it’s safe to say that the relationship between the pharmaceutical industry and government is a cozy one. They are both interested in making sure fluoridation continues to be used on the public at large. https://fluoridealert.org/content/bulletin_12-24-13/

Follow the Money - Fluoride Action Network Dear Supporter, Before we get to following the money of our opponents (the ADA et al.) you can follow the money in our annual FAN fundraiser. As of 10 pm Dec 23 we had received $73,436 from 431 donors. If we use up the remainder of our matching grant ($2,658) we will need to raise fluoridealert.org

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Nevermind the fact that Fluoride has been found per a government sponsored report to be unsafe for children at the levels currently being used. That is why there is a major lawsuit happening right now to the CDC has been fighting tooth and nails. https://fluoridealert.org/articles/national-toxicology-program-finds-no-safe-level-of-fluoride-in-drinking-water-water-fluoridation-policy-threatened/

National Toxicology Program Finds No Safe Level of Fluoride in Drinking Water; Water Fluoridation Policy Threatened - Fluoride Action Network After a 6-year long systematic review of fluoride’s impact on the developing brain, a court order has led to the National Toxicology Program (NTP) making public their finalized report that was blocked by US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) leadership and concealed from the public for the past 10 months. The NTP reported 52 of 55 studies found decreases fluoridealert.org

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Also here is a post I made a while back explains the findings in the report. https://x.com/joshwalkos/status/1638720783030648833?s=46&t=vA2OW8Ya3YtNHv_brmZjmg

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Fluoride is totally safe in the water they said. We need it it to help our teeth they said. What they didn’t say was that it is a neurotoxin that lowers people’s IQ and isn’t safe at any levels. “Overall, the report provides strong evidence that fluoride is associated with a substantial loss of IQ at levels of exposure common in people drinking fluoridated water.” https://fluoridealert.org/articles/national-toxicology-program-finds-no-safe-level-of-fluoride-in-drinking-water-water-fluoridation-policy-threatened/ #EPA

National Toxicology Program Finds No Safe Level of Fluoride in Drinking Water; Water Fluoridation Policy Threatened - Fluoride Action Network After a 6-year long systematic review of fluoride’s impact on the developing brain, a court order has led to the National Toxicology Program (NTP) making public their finalized report that was blocked by US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) leadership and concealed from the public for the past 10 months. The NTP reported 52 of 55 studies found decreases fluoridealert.org

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Now remember that paper from the council that was created by the ADA and that the Massachusetts government are using for recommendations? It was essentially ghostwritten by industry interests, that’s how this works. Here are the slides explaining the options for Fluoride:

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

The State of Massachusetts recommends the following for children 6 years old and Younger. Based on a risk assessment various forms of fluoride are the norm whether it be in the water, a must, toothpaste, or varnish. Either way they want fluoride in your child’s body.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

I am sure it has nothing to do at all with the projected growth of the industry. Which is expected to reach $817,803 million by 2027.https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-sodium-fluoride-market

Sodium Fluoride Market Size & Share: Industry Report, 2022-2027

Sodium Fluoride Market industry report focuses on the current market trends, size, share, and COVID-19 impact. CAGR of 5.51%, Market Size: US$817.803 million in 2027.

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@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Ok back to Sarah Goff and her studies that were released a few months apart in 2023 by RAND Corp. The Study 1 Conclusion although the rates are increasing, not enough equity has been spread around, those black and brown children’s rates are worryingly low, what would they do without our Fluoride? https://www.academicpedsjnl.net/article/S1876-2859(23)00152-3/fulltext

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Study 2 was done in order to identify barriers to optimal fluoride application so it’s no surprise that they feel much work needs to be done to bring up those numbers because fluoride is apparently want 1-6 years old teeth crave. https://www.academicpedsjnl.net/article/S1876-2859(23)00371-6/fulltext

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

To summarize the original study I set out to examine for COI’s, was about targeting doctors who spread “misinformation” about COVID, this led me to the Fluoride industry which peculiarly enough, the author of the misinformation paper has ties to. She helped write 2 papers, promoted by RAND Corp. about the use of fluoride varnish. From Fluoride to a Misinformation paper targeting COVID doctors that was funded by UMass and Goff herself but placed a disclaimer on it about the views expressed are not representative of the views of the US Department of Veterans Affairs & US Government. 🤔 That got me thinking after the fact, so out of curiosity I searched the word “Government” within the study, thinking I may had missed something that said the government was somehow involved. To my surprise I was correct, this was an odd disclaimer because nothing else indicates government involvement. However, could it be because the word “government”is used 14 times in the paper? 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’m pretty sure by wanting to make clear the government definitely had no involvement, they revealed that the government definitely had involvement. 😂

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Something just didn’t add up so I wanted to see what else I could find on Sarah Goff, the Yale educated Neurobiologist with a Doctor of Philosophy and Public Health from UMass, who publishes for RAND Corp. Whilst promoting “Health Equity” via Fluoride and sponsored a paper targeting Doctors for not promoting the COVID-19 Vaccine. In a jaw dropping twist, while searching about Sarah Goff in Massachusetts I came upon a substack post by non other than Meryl Nass, someone who is undoubtedly one of the 52 Doctors targeted. The post on her substack is about a covid vaccine mandate for a High School in Amherst, Massachusetts that was holding a COVID Vaccine clinic. It has a video of a school board meeting and a photo of this death certificate. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/amherst-schools-collect-2000-to-host This Death Certificate dated September 17, 2022. Look at the underlined name and the underlined highlighted section. No way, it couldn’t be?

Amherst schools collect $2000 to host student COVID vaccine clinic 4 months after one of their students died from myocarditis at a track meet Here is the death certificate to prove it. Children are not for sale to the government to poison. merylnass.substack.com

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

This was a local news story about why happened but did not mention family.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Before I jumped to conclusions I wanted to see what Amherst policy was for COVID Injections. Although the teachers mandate was lifted April 26th, 2023, the students mandate remained in effect. Considering this happy at an Amherst Cross Country event I think it is reasonable to infer what you are thinking.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

But then my suspicions were unfortunately confirmed. https://www.gazettenet.com/Amherst-Regional-High-School-junior-dies-at-cross-country-meet-in-Ludlow-48093798

Amherst community mourns death of ARHS junior AMHERST — Family, friends and students at Amherst Regional High School are mourning the death of a junior who had been hospitalized since suffering an apparent cardiac issue during a Sept. 13 cross country meet.On Sunday, a message was sent to... gazettenet.com

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

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reSee.it AI Summary
There are two clear sources of data regarding the alleged safety of COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy. The first is a document from Pfizer that reveals concerning statistics, including deaths and adverse pregnancy outcomes. The second is a peer-reviewed study published in a medical journal, which has not been refuted or challenged. Other studies supporting vaccine safety have conflicts of interest and lack transparency. It is important to conduct personal research and be aware of the entanglement between the pharmaceutical industry and medical journals.

@jathorpmfm - James Thorp MD

There are only TWO irrefutable data sources that are clear as to the alleged safety of the COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy. The first is Pfizer 5.3.6 https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/reissue_5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf that colluded w HHS CDC FDA to hide it for 75 years. Their data are clear - the Covid vax was the deadliest and most injurious drug ever rolled out in the history of medicine with 42,086 casualties including 1,223 DEAD in just 10 weeks (page 7 pictured below) and catastrophic pregnancy outcomes (page 12 pictured below). The second is published in a peer reviewed medical journal from a governmental database totally open sourced, using FDA methodology documenting breaches of FDA defined safety signals (PRR 2 or greater) in 18 adverse events in pregnancy (including malformations). This has been published for over a year, anyone in the world has been able to has duplicate this study- - NOBODY has refuted or challenged it. Thorp JA, Rogers C; Deskevich, MP, Tankersley S, Benavides A, Redshaw, M.D.; McCullough, P.A. COVID-19 Vaccines: The Impact on Pregnancy Outcomes and Menstrual Function. Journal of the American Physicians & Surgeons Spring 2023; 28(1) https://www.jpands.org/vol28no1/thorp.pdf Every other study documenting safety of the vaccine in pregnancy is published in terminally corrupted medical journals, NOT open source, extreme conflicts of interest with authors & journals refusing transparency. The fraudulent Shimabukuro NEJM with the CORRUPT Editor in Chief Eric Rubin is the classic case in point and irrefutable proof. The LANCET May 2020 Mehra article falsely impugning safety & efficacy of hydroxychloroquine is another classic case in point and irrefutable proof of terminal pharmaceutical kleptocratic entanglement of all the major journal - even the “most prestigious & influential medical journals in the world- NEJM & LANCET. To see details of these fraudulent publications see page 170-171 of the following peer reviewed article to read verifiable truths of these scandals: https://www.thegms.co/medical-ethics/medethics-rw-22071901.pdf Do your own due diligence. The terminal corporate kleptocratic entanglement of pharmaceutical industry with NEJM & other journals and the CDC FDA was proven at the turn of the century by long term NEJM Editor Dr Marcia Angell. The publications supporting the safety & efficacy of the COVID vaccines have massive conflicts of interest. Take the publications from UCSF for example - their own website boasts the most NIH funding than any other institution in the USA and this is reviewed in the following article: americaoutloud.news/a-call-for-imm… RES IPSA LOQUITOR CUI BONO

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reSee.it AI Summary
Community notes are being criticized for allegedly supporting big pharma without evidence. A study suggests that increased IgG4 levels from repeated mRNA vaccination may not be protective and could promote SARS-CoV2 infection. The authors of the notes should be made public to address bias concerns. Funding sources and accountability are important in avoiding biased reporting. Anonymity should end for community notes to be taken seriously.

@Censored4sure - Luther ‘Ćyrus’

Here we have community notes lying & running damage control for big pharma. You see this shit @elonmusk @CommunityNotes This is unacceptable. No evidence? Who decides what’s fake news?🧵

@Censored4sure - Luther ‘Ćyrus’

“However, emerging evidence suggests that the reported increase in IgG4 levels detected after repeated vaccination with the mRNA vaccines may not be a protective mechanism; rather, it constitutes an immune tolerance mechanism to the spike protein that could promote unopposed SARS-CoV2 infection and replication by suppressing natural antiviral responses. Increased IgG4 synthesis due to repeated mRNA vaccination with high antigen concentrations may also cause autoimmune diseases, and promote cancer growth.”

@Censored4sure - Luther ‘Ćyrus’

Study: IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10222767/

IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Less than a year after the global emergence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, a novel vaccine platform based on mRNA technology was introduced to the market. Globally, around 13.38 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses of diverse platforms have been administered. ... ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

@Censored4sure - Luther ‘Ćyrus’

Another reason I feel like the authors of these notes need to be made public because most of the sources they are using are heavily biased and funded by big pharmaceutical companies who are heavily invested in damage control. https://t.co/tWB78rr9Zl

@Censored4sure - Luther ‘Ćyrus’

Furthermore, it’s the complete opposite. It’s just like when I read a scientific paper or look for an article I want to know who’s funding these studies and what interest these individuals may have on these topics. To avoid biased reporting we need accountability for these people who are writing notes based on their personal feelings on the subject. Journalists aren’t anonymous, scientists name on studies aren’t anonymous why should these folks be any different?

@Censored4sure - Luther ‘Ćyrus’

All these sites mentioned by the 'readers' behind have large funds that also have Big Pharma stocks. Vanguard, Blackrock etc.etc. I think community notes are great, some added context never hurt anybody. But if they are to be taken seriously by anyone. All this anonymous shit needs to end. If you feel uncomfortable about what you’re reporting on then maybe you should be reporting or writing notes. If it’s genuine the last thing you should be afraid of is confrontation.

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The FDA has approved a new treatment called Amtagvi for advanced melanoma, but there are concerns about its cost and potential side effects. The FDA's accelerated approval pathway has shifted towards oncology in recent years. The approval rate for first-in-class drugs has also increased. Amtagvi, made by Iovance Biotherapeutics, costs $515,000 per treatment and has shown a 31.5% responder rate. However, the treatment carries a black box warning due to severe side effects, including cytopenia, internal hemorrhage, severe infections, and cardiac and renal issues. The study authors have various conflicts of interest. The approval raises questions about the reliance on fast-tracking drugs and the potential risks to patients.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Mega 🧵 The FDA Just Fast Track Approved a New Tumor Infiltrating Lymphocyte Treatment (TIL) Called Amtagvi for Advanced Melanoma. It's the first approval of its kind for skin cancer, potentially opening the floodgates for a new generation of treatments but at what cost?

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

The FDA's use of the accelerated approval pathway has shown significant trends and shifts over the years. Initially, the pathway was primarily used to expedite approvals for drugs treating severe conditions like HIV and cancer, remember AZT? That drug ended up being so toxic that it killed untold amounts of people afflicted with HIV that may not have otherwise perished from the disease. Look up what happened to Arthur Ashe if you don’t believe me. https://avalere.com/insights/understanding-the-history-and-use-of-the-accelerated-approval-pathway From 1992 to 2010, a substantial proportion of accelerated approvals were for HIV (39.7%) and cancer (35.6%) treatments. However, from 2010 to 2020, there was a marked shift towards oncology, with 85% of accelerated approvals targeting cancer treatments​. A significant increase in the use of expedited approval programs, including accelerated approval, was noted between 2000 and 2018. This trend is evident from the rising annual number of new drug approvals, which spiked notably from an average of 23 new molecular entities (NMEs) per year from 2000 to 2010 to 35 in 2011, reaching up to 59 by 2018​. https://www.pharmasalmanac.com/articles/drug-approval-trends-significant-acceleration-in-recent-years

Understanding the History and Use of the Accelerated Approval Pathway | Avalere The Accelerated Approval Program was developed in 1992, largely in response to the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the 1980s after advocates urged the Food & Drug Admi avalere.com
Drug Approval Trends: Significant Acceleration in Recent Years Nigel Walker analyzes trends in recent U.S. FDA approvals to forecast what to expect in the coming years. pharmasalmanac.com

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Moreover, the approval rate for first-in-class drugs, which often use the accelerated pathway, has also increased. For example, in 2021, a notable number of first-in-class drugs received accelerated approval. According to an FDA Report: “14 of 50 drugs (28%) using the pathway. In contrast, 12 of 53 drugs (22.6%) in 2020, 9 of 48 drugs (18.7%) in 2019, and 4 of 59 drugs (6.7%) in 2018 received the Accelerated Approval designation.” Report: https://www.fda.gov/media/155227/download

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

These trends indicate a significant reliance on the accelerated approval pathway to bring drugs to the market more swiftly. These approvals are couched as potentially life saving to patients who have no other options, tugging at a docile public’s heart strings. However, closer scrutiny of the approval process reveals that there is much more to this story than just “saving lives”. Many of these “fast tracked” drugs have shown themselves to be very problematic to those tasked with taking them. Often leaving their health in much worse shape than before and sometimes killings people, as you will soon see.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Made by Iovance Biotherapeutics, the new treatment we will be examining, called Amtagvi, will cost already cash strapped patients no less than $515,000 per treatment. The approval by the FDA was based on the data from a Phase 2 trial while a confirmatory Phase 3 trial is still ongoing. As of right now, it can only be used by people who have melanoma that cannot be removed surgically or has spread and has been treated with other drugs. So we are talking about people with already highly depleted immune systems due to the previous treatment. If you search online, you will find legacy media fawning over the approval touting its 31.5% responder rate, meaning the tumor had a reduction in size in 31.5% of recipients. We will get to this later. The main thrust of this approval and the reason it is being celebrated is that it opens potential floodgates for a new generation of Tumor Infiltrating Lymphocyte (TIL) therapies. The Washington Post had this to say: “Though the condition is uncommon, cancer experts say winning FDA approval could mark the beginning of a potent new weapon against far more common tumors.” However, as much as investors and the biopharmaceutical industry love the 47% Iovance stock increase since the announcement, the celebration may be premature because the FDA also issued a black box warning for the treatment. https://www.fda.gov/drugs/resources-information-approved-drugs/fda-grants-accelerated-approval-lifileucel-unresectable-or-metastatic-melanoma https://jitc.bmj.com/content/10/12/e005755.altmetrics

Oncology Burst FDA grants accelerated approval to lifileucel for unresectable or metastatic melanoma fda.gov
Efficacy and safety of lifileucel, a one-time autologous tumor-infiltrating lymphocyte (TIL) cell therapy, in patients with advanced melanoma after progression on immune checkpoint inhibitors and targeted therapies: pooled analysis of consecutive cohorts of the C-144-01 study Background Patients with advanced melanoma have limited treatment options after progression on immune checkpoint inhibitors (ICI). Lifileucel, a one-time autologous tumor-infiltrating lymphocyte (TIL) cell therapy, demonstrated an investigator-assessed objective response rate (ORR) of 36% in 66 patients who progressed after ICI and targeted therapy. Herein, we report independent review committee (IRC)-assessed outcomes of 153 patients treated with lifileucel in a large multicenter Phase 2 cell therapy trial in melanoma. Methods Eligible patients had advanced melanoma that progressed after ICI and targeted therapy, where appropriate. Melanoma lesions were resected (resected tumor diameter ≥1.5 cm) and shipped to a central good manufacturing practice facility for 22-day lifileucel manufacturing. Patients received a non-myeloablative lymphodepletion regimen, a single lifileucel infusion, and up to six doses of high-dose interleukin-2. The primary endpoint was IRC-assessed ORR (Response Evaluation Criteria in Solid Tumors V.1.1). Results The Full Analysis Set consisted of 153 patients treated with lifileucel, including longer-term follow-up on the 66 patients previously reported. Patients had received a median of 3.0 lines of prior therapy (81.7% received both anti-programmed cell death protein 1 and anti-cytotoxic lymphocyte-associated protein 4) and had high disease burden at baseline (median target lesion sum of diameters (SOD): 97.8 mm; lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) >upper limit of normal: 54.2%). ORR was 31.4% (95% CI: 24.1% to 39.4%), with 8 complete responses and 40 partial responses. Median duration of response was not reached at a median study follow-up of 27.6 months, with 41.7% of the responses maintained for ≥18 months. Median overall survival and progression-free survival were 13.9 and 4.1 months, respectively. Multivariable analyses adjusted for Eastern Cooperative Oncology Group performance status demonstrated that elevated LDH and target lesion SOD >median were independently correlated with ORR (p=0.008); patients with normal LDH and SOD jitc.bmj.com

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

If you search online, you will find legacy media fawning over the approval touting its 31.5% responder rate, meaning the tumor had a reduction in size in 31.5% of recipients. We will get to this later. The main thrust of this approval and the reason it is being celebrated is that it opens potential floodgates for a new generation of Tumor Infiltrating Lymphocyte (TIL) therapies. The Washington Post had this to say: “Though the condition is uncommon, cancer experts say winning FDA approval could mark the beginning of a potent new weapon against far more common tumors.” However, as much as investors and the biopharmaceutical industry love the 47% Iovance stock increase since the announcement, the celebration may be premature because the FDA also issued a black box warning for the treatment. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biotech-stock-47-upside-according-111400042.html

This Biotech Stock Has 47% Upside, According to 1 Wall Street Analyst It has good news in hand and plenty of room to grow. finance.yahoo.com

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Given this warning and since this is being billed as ushering in a new era in cancer treatments, I decided it would be prudent to have a look at the studies this approval is based on by reviewing the package insert provided by the FDA. Just to see how “safe & effective” this new revolutionary TIL treatment truly is. A 31.5% respondent rate doesn’t seem all that revolutionary to me, especially if you are charging a whopping $515,000 for a single treatment. If I am paying that much, the responder rate needs to be much higher than that, especially considering it has a black box warning which we are going to review. Once we have examined the trial data we will then break down the Conflicts of Interests submitted by the authors, which I think will bring my suspicions into focus about this drug’s approval being used to usher in a cottage industry of these new extremely profitable TIL treatments. https://www.fda.gov/media/176417/download

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

The sociological forces surrounding drug approvals are far too often ignored as if human nature stops being human nature because it is drug research. The propensity for bias that aligns with the potential social and financial capital to be gained has to be taken into consideration. Especially in light of the fraud and deception both the pharmaceutical industry and the government have perpetrated in recent decades. Let’s be honest, here we have a highly toxic novel treatment being given to individuals who haven’t responded well to other treatments. It costs these people $515K on top of their other medical bills and has a mortality rate of 7.5%. This is why closer scrutiny of COI statements is needed today. It’s as if just because they tell you they have conflicts of interest that is supposed to magically absolve them for their conflicts of interest. This is the logic of a vampire. Speaking of which let’s examine the level of “fair warning” the vampires deem acceptable.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

THE BLACK BOX WARNING Please note, that this and all subsequent screenshots are taken directly from the package insert of Amtagvi unless otherwise noted. As you can see the warning given is quite serious, all of these conditions are not to be trifled with and I am going to go through each one so that you can gain an understanding of what they entail and the potential implications to the health of anyone who receives this treatment. We will then continue to the Clinical Trial Data and parse what it actually means instead of just relying on what the FDA and Iovance’s press release says like the rest of the world. A "black box warning" is the most serious warning that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) can require for prescription drug labeling. It indicates that medical studies have demonstrated that the drug carries a significant risk of serious or even life-threatening adverse effects. The warning is presented in a prominent black box to ensure that both prescribers and patients are aware of the risks. Here are the conditions they are warning the public about. “Severe cytopenia, internal hemorrhage, severe infections, and be sure to monitor for cardiopulmonary and renal functions.”

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Interestingly, I found an article on http://cancer.gov about the FDA approval, and nowhere in it did it mention the black box warning. Here is how it characterized side effects. “All participants in the trial had side effects caused by the treatment, Dr. Wermke reported. Most, however, were not dangerous and were largely caused by the chemotherapy given before the lifileucel infusion and IL-2 given afterward. The most common included anemia, high fevers, and substantial drops in levels of plateletsand certain white blood cells.” This is a patently false characterization of the side effects laid out in the study themselves as well as the package insert. These willful misrepresentations could be due to the fact that the National Cancer Institute entered into a “cooperative research agreement” with Iovance way back in 2011. “In 2011, NCI entered into a cooperative research agreement with Iovance to further develop this particular TIL therapy, including conducting larger clinical trials and developing a manufacturing infrastructure, paving the way for FDA approval.”“It’s been a long time coming, Dr. Rosenberg acknowledged. The new approval “is a big step,” he said, one which demonstrates that “cellular therapy is joining the mainstream of cancer treatment.” https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2024/fda-amtagvi-til-therapy-melanoma https://www.techtransfer.nih.gov/policy/cradas

Comprehensive Cancer Information Accurate, up-to-date, comprehensive cancer information from the U.S. government's principal agency for cancer research. cancer.gov
Lifileucel First Cellular Therapy Approved for Cancer FDA has approved lifileucel (Amtagvi), the first cancer treatment that uses immune cells called tumor-infiltrating lymphocytes, or TILs. cancer.gov
CRADAs | Technology Transfer techtransfer.nih.gov

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

In fact, the NCI’s stake in TIL goes back further than 2011, according to a news release by the H. LEE MOFFITT CANCER CENTER & RESEARCH INSTITUTE: “Tumor-infiltrating lymphocyte therapy has been around for decades. Pre-clinical studies evaluating its efficacy began in the early 1980s at the National Cancer Institute (NCI). James J. Mulé, IPh.D., a world-renowned immunologist and associate center director of Translational Science at Moffitt, brought TIL research to the cancer center in 2003.” Over 40 years in the making. https://www.moffitt.org/treatments/immunotherapy/til-therapy/

TIL Therapy, Cellular Immunotherapy Learn how TIL therapy for cancer is used to treat head and neck squamous cell carcinoma, melanoma, lung cancer and various other malignancies. moffitt.org

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Cooperative Research Agreements (CRA) are used widely between the government and private companies. It usually means parties will contribute resources, expertise, and possibly personnel to conduct specific research. For example, a government laboratory might offer scientific expertise and specialized equipment, while the pharmaceutical company could provide additional scientific talent and funding. The agreement outlines specific research goals, which are often aimed at developing new drugs, improving existing treatments, or enhancing manufacturing processes. These goals are clearly defined to ensure that both parties are aligned in their expectations and contributions. CRAs usually specify how IP rights are handled. Typically, the pharmaceutical company may be granted the first option to negotiate licenses for any inventions that result from the collaboration. Both parties usually protect their pre-existing IP while sharing rights to new discoveries made during the partnership. The agreements include confidentiality clauses that prevent the sharing of sensitive information beyond the scope of the partnership. There are often provisions related to the publication of research findings, where the government may retain the right to publish results after a certain period. The agreement might also include stipulations on how data is shared between the parties during and after the project. The NCI’s decidedly muted tone on the black box warning and misrepresentation of overall side effects are no doubt due to the investment it has placed into this research for the past 40 years. This is illustrative of just how intertwined our “public-private partnerships” (P3) have truly become.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

Here is a local news segment touting it as the next big thing in cancer treatment. “We think this is only the start.”

Video Transcript AI Summary
A new FDA-approved therapy called AMTOGV is now available at the University of Chicago Medicine to treat melanoma. This treatment, known as tumor infiltrating lymphocyte therapy, involves removing T cells from a tumor, multiplying them in a lab, and infusing them back into the patient. This innovative therapy offers long-term control and potential cure for advanced melanoma patients. Additionally, this treatment may be applicable to other cancers where the immune system can recognize the tumors, such as lung and cervical cancer. Exciting advancements in cancer treatment are on the horizon.
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Speaker 0: There is a new FDA approved therapy to fight the leading cause of skin cancer, melanoma. It's called AMTOGV, and the University of Chicago Medicine is one of the first 30 institutions in the country to offer the treatment. Speaker 1: Joining us with details, doctor Daniel Olson, a hematology and oncology physician at UChicago Medicine. Great to have you here. When I was treated for skin cancer, the solution was to excise a, you know, a piece out of me. Can you talk about how this groundbreaking therapy is different from that? Speaker 2: Yeah. So things have changed really dramatically for advanced melanoma in the last decade. You know, before 2010, we can only cure about half of patients with advanced or metastatic melanoma. And before then, we really relied on things like surgery. But things have advanced dramatically in the last 10 years, and we can cure about half of patients with standard immunotherapy. However, for the other half of patients who don't benefit from standard immunotherapy, we've not had good treatment options. And so this new treatment called tumor infiltrating lymphocyte therapy, the brand name is, Entag V or the follucil or other names is a new type of treatment. It's a type of immunotherapy. But instead of giving, an immunotherapy drug that changes how your own immune system behaves, we actually remove a tumor. And inside that tumor are T cells and T cells are the part of our immune system that can recognize and kill melanoma cells. But melanoma itself is very inhospitable to T cells. And so, the the lab, and then give them back, say from an original 100000 cells to up to a 1000000000 cells. And then we reinfuse those back into patients. And so, the process requires a surgery first and then, a manufacturing period. And then we actually have to give conditioning chemotherapy to remove some of the T cells in the patient and make room for these new melanoma specific T cells. And then we infuse those into a patient in the hospital and then have to give an immune stimulatory, sort of hormone with it called IL 2. And it takes place over the course of about a week. And it's a short, very intense treatment. But we know about, patients who are going to get it about a third to a half of patients can get long term control of their melanoma, which is far more than what we can do right now. And it offers the chance of long term remission and even cure for some of these patients. So, it's an incremental incremental benefit, but it's really important and it's great that we'll be able to offer this to patients. Speaker 0: Well, doctor Olsen, before we run out of time, I was just talking to a physician at the FDA about the technology. It sounds like this can be used to treat other cancers. Is that right? Speaker 2: Yeah. So this made this process, tumor infiltrating lymphocyte therapy works in other tumor types where the immune system can recognize those tumors. And so in tumors that happens, lung cancer, cervical cancer and others, this type of therapy is being investigated. We actually have clinical trials in that regard. So, we think this is only the start. Speaker 1: Good stuff. Really exciting stuff. Doctor, thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate it. Speaker 2: Happy to join. Speaker 1: You know, I'll climb on my soapbox real quick. My change in a molt was only discovered because I had shaved my chest and my wife noticed it. So for you men out there, especially ones with hairy chest, maybe occasionally take a good look underneath the hair because that's how I found mine.

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

The “Revolutionary Treatment” Regime This is how this treatment works in lay terms. They are basically taking a piece of a person's tumor and then isolating the Tumor Infiltrating Lymphocytes (TIL), reproducing them in large numbers, and then putting them back into the patient via an infusion. Tumor-infiltrating lymphocytes (TILs) are defined as lymphocytes that directly oppose and/or surround tumor cells. Here is a depiction that Iovance Biotherapeutics provides to describe the process. https://jitc.bmj.com/content/jitc/10/12/e005755.full.pdf?with-ds=yes

@JoshWalkos - Champagne Joshi

This is a bit more detailed depiction of how TIL therapy is conducted to give you a visual sense of the process. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14712598.2023.2193290

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Now that we understand the basic idea behind this therapy let’s have a look at the details that precipitated the black box warning. Under the section labeled “Treatment-Related Mortality”, it tells us that out of 160 people who received AMTAGVI, 7.5% of them died because of issues related to the treatment. This means out of every 100 people treated with AMTAGVI, about 7 or 8 people died due to complications from the treatment. These complications included serious infections like sepsis (a severe reaction to an infection), pneumonia (lung infection), and encephalitis (brain inflammation); bleeding inside the body, such as in the abdomen or brain; kidney failure; breathing problems; heart rhythm problems; excessive fluid in the abdominal area; liver damage; and failure of the bone marrow to produce blood cells. If you recall the article published by the National Cancer Institute blamed all of the side effects on the chemotherapy required prior to the infusion. This is an extremely convenient conclusion to make, isn’t it? Especially when we consider the financial interest the NCI has with its partner Iovance.

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Let me get this straight, the drug killed 7.5% of the patients? 12 out of 160 people died directly because of taking it and the FDA thinks that is promising? Here is a breakdown of these deaths. When Deaths Occurred: - 2 patients died during the initial phase where the treatment weakens the immune system (this is called lymphodepletion). - 6 patients died within the first 30 days after receiving AMTAGVI. - 4 patients died between 38 to 150 days after getting the treatment. Causes of Death: The deaths were due to severe side effects, including: - Serious infections like sepsis (a life-threatening response to infection), pneumonia (lung infection), and encephalitis (brain inflammation). - Bleeding inside the body, including in the abdomen and brain. - Kidney failure, where the kidneys suddenly stop working. - Respiratory failure, which means the lungs couldn't provide enough oxygen to the body or remove carbon dioxide. - Heart rhythm problems (arrhythmia), which can be life-threatening. - Accumulation of fluid in the abdomen (ascites), which can be due to various serious conditions. - Liver damage, which can affect the liver's ability to function. - Bone marrow failure, meaning the bone marrow doesn't produce enough new blood cells.

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Severe Side Effects Abound with Amtagvi SEVERE CYTOPENIA According to what's been observed, almost half of the melanoma patients (45.5%) treated with AMTAGVI had prolonged severe cytopenia, meaning a severe drop in their blood cells that didn't get better to a milder condition or lasted for more than 30 days after the treatment. Specifically, the types of blood cell count drops seen were: Thrombocytopenia: A decrease in platelets, which help with blood clotting (30.1% of patients). Lymphopenia: A decrease in lymphocytes, a type of white blood cell important for immune response (19.9% of patients). Neutropenia: A decrease in neutrophils, white blood cells that fight infection (17.3% of patients). Leukopenia: A general decrease in white blood cells (14.7% of patients). Pancytopenia: A decrease in all types of blood cells (1.3% of patients).

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When people are treated with AMTAGVI, there's a risk that they might experience bleeding inside their body aka Internal Hemorrhaging, specifically within the abdomen (the area that includes the stomach and other organs) or the brain. This kind of internal bleeding is very serious and can be life-threatening. In fact, such bleeding has been linked to the deaths of at least two people who were treated with AMTAGVI. One reason this bleeding can happen is because of a condition called thrombocytopenia, where the patient has a lower number of platelets in their blood. Platelets are tiny cells that help blood to clot, so if there aren't enough of them, bleeding can happen more easily.

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SEVERE INFECTION Severe infections were also associated with the treatment. Some of these infections were so severe they could lead to death. About 26.9% of melanoma patients treated with AMTAGVI had some level of infection because of the treatment. When we talk about "Grade 3 or higher infections," it means infections that are quite severe. Out of these, 13.5% of patients had serious infections, including 10.9% where the cause of the infection wasn't identified and 3.8% where the cause was known. Febrile neutropenia is considered an emergency in medical care, especially in patients with cancer or those receiving chemotherapy, because their immune systems are already weakened, making them more susceptible to infections. Treatment typically involves hospitalization, administration of broad-spectrum antibiotics to fight potential infections, and other supportive care measures to help the patient recover while the underlying cause of the neutropenia is addressed.

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Heart Related Issues In a group of 156 patients who received AMTAGVI, about 9% (which is 14 people) had serious heart-related issues because of the treatment. These problems included: Tachycardia: A faster than normal heart rate. Atrial fibrillation: An irregular and often rapid heart rate that can increase the risk of strokes, heart failure, and other heart-related complications. Arrhythmia: Any irregular heartbeat. Acute myocardial infarction: Also known as a heart attack, where blood flow to the heart is blocked. Cardiac ventricular thrombosis: A blood clot in the heart's ventricles, which are the two lower chambers of the heart. Cardiomyopathy: A disease of the heart muscle that makes it harder for the heart to pump blood to the rest of the body. QT-prolongation: A condition that can cause unpredictable changes in the heart rhythm, which might lead to sudden, dangerous heartbeats. One person who received AMTAGVI died due to cardia arrhythmia.

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Clinical Trials Experience 156 adults who have unresectable or metastatic melanoma were given AMTAGVI. This treatment wasn't given alone; it was part of a combination that also included three other treatments: cyclophosphamide, fludarabine, and IL-2 (also known as aldesleukin). Unresectable means the cancer couldn't be removed with surgery. Metastatic means the cancer has spread from where it originally started to other parts of the body. Cyclophosphamide Cyclophosphamide is a type of chemotherapy medication. It works by slowing or stopping the growth of cancer cells in the body. Cyclophosphamide is used to treat various types of cancer by damaging the DNA of cancer cells, which makes it hard for them to divide and grow. Some adverse reactions associated with it are bone marrow suppression, nausea/vomiting, hair loss, bladder irritation and it can effect fertility. Fludarabine Fludarabine is another chemotherapy drug, but it's often used to treat certain types of blood cancers, such as chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) and some types of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. It works in a similar way to cyclophosphamide, by interfering with the DNA inside cancer cells, which prevents them from multiplying. Some adverse reactions include immunosuppression, neurological effects, bone marrow suppression and nausea/fatigue. IL-2 (Aldesleukin) IL-2, or aldesleukin, is different from the first two treatments because it's a type of immunotherapy rather than chemotherapy. IL-2 stands for Interleukin-2, which is a naturally occurring protein in the body that plays a role in activating the immune system. As a treatment, aldesleukin is a synthetic form of this protein and works by boosting the body's own immune response to help fight cancer. Some adverse reactions include capillary leak syndrome, high fever and chills, heart problems and depression. In this study: The average age of the people involved was 56, but they ranged from 20 to 79 years old. About 54% of the participants were men. Before the study started, the health status of the patients was measured using something called the ECOG performance status, which helps to describe a patient's level of functioning. 68.6% of the patients were graded as ECOG 0, meaning they were fully active, able to carry on all pre-disease performance without restriction. 31.4% were graded as ECOG 1, meaning they were restricted in physically strenuous activity but could walk and carry out light or sedentary work.

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EFFICACY ENDPOINTS It is important to understand how Efficacy was established for this study, in other words what is considered a success? Let’s break down these terms to get a better understanding of what they are looking for. It is based on something called Objective Response Rate (ORR), Duration of Response (DoR) and Median Time to Initial Response. The Objective Response Rate (ORR) is a way to measure how well a cancer treatment works. Specifically, it looks at the percentage of patients whose cancer shrinks or disappears after treatment. If a treatment has a high ORR, it means that a significant number of patients had their cancer reduce in size, which is a good sign that the treatment is effective. The Duration of Response (DoR) is about how long the positive effects of the treatment last. After a patient's cancer responds to treatment by shrinking or disappearing, the DoR measures how long these benefits continue before the cancer starts growing again or becomes noticeable. A longer DoR means that the treatment's effects are lasting for a good amount of time, which is what doctors and patients hope for. This term refers to the middle value in the range of times it took for patients to first see a response to the treatment. In the case of AMTAGVI, the median time to initial response was 1.5 months, with the quickest response being at 1.3 months and the slowest at 4.2 months. This means that half of the patients started seeing their tumors reduce or go away at or before 1.5 months after starting the treatment. It gives an idea of how quickly you might expect to see results from the treatment.

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Out of the original 160 people who received the treatment, ultimately only 73 patients were a part of the main analysis of how well AMTAGVI worked, less than half of the original.

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So ORR was at 31.5% who experienced a reduction in their tumor with a confidence interval of 21.1% - 43.4%. Considering the sample size being so low, I am not sure I would be too amazed by these results. Especially when we consider the rates of adverse reaction which we will get to next. Let’s break this down a bit further first. 3 out of the 73 patients (4.1%) complete response rate had their cancer disappear. 20 out of the 73 (27.4%) partial response rate, had tumor shrink The number (4.1, NR) tells us the shortest observed duration was 4.1 months, and 'NR' means 'not reached,' indicating that the end point of the response period hadn't been reached for many patients by the time the data were analyzed. Patients with DoR ≥ 6 months: More than half of the patients (56.5%) or 13 patients who responded to the treatment had their cancer stay smaller for at least 6 months. Patients with DoR ≥ 9 months: Nearly half (47.8%) or 11 patients who responded to the treatment had their cancer stay smaller for at least 9 months. Patients with DoR ≥ 12 months: A little less than half (43.5%) or 10 of the patients who responded had their cancer stay smaller for at least 12 months.

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ADVERSE REACTIONS Let’s breakdown the adverse reactions observed in the trial. Now remember all of these with the exception of Febrile neutropenia are in addition to the conditions the FDA issued a “black box” warning over. This trial started with 160 people, 156 of which ended up being treated with AMTAGVI. Here are the results for adverse reactions observed by type. This is accounting for adverse reactions in the total amount of individuals who received the infusion. As you’ll recall, only 73 were included in the final analysis.

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These abnormalities were observed from the time of AMTAGVI infusion to 6 months afterward. Grades 3 and 4 are clinically significant and typically require intervention. (N=156) so obviously many experienced multiple of these conditions. Thrombocytopenia - 122 people (78.2%): A low platelet count, which can lead to increased bleeding and bruising. Neutropenia - 108 people (69.2%): A low count of neutrophils, a type of white blood cell, leading to increased risk of infection. Anemia - 91 people (58.3%): Low red blood cell count, which can cause fatigue, weakness, and shortness of breath. Leukopenia - 73 people (46.8%): Low white blood cell count in general, which also increases infection risk. Lymphopenia - 66 people (42.3%): A reduced count of lymphocytes, another type of white blood cell, leading to a compromised immune system. Hypophosphatemia - 40 people (25.6%): Low levels of phosphate in the blood, which can lead to muscle weakness, respiratory failure, and heart problems.

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The two tables following the package insert information provided below, breakdown the reaction type that led to death and overall deaths.

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I struggle to put myself in the shoes of the researchers and regulators who worked on this. Who after seeing all of this data on deaths and adverse events can declare these results a success. Fast tracked nonetheless by the FDA, a trend that we are seeing increase rapidly post-covid. It is so urgent that we need to get this stuff into people’s bodies asap, significantly increasing their short term mortality risk, this according to their own data and then lovingly charging them $515K for the privilege. After all, “we warned you.”

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Conflicts of Interests and the Study Authors Buried under hyperlinks and almost deliberately difficult to navigate to are conflict of interest statements. Each author listed has to provide what they feel could be perceived as a conflict of interest. Meaning some other source of income or association that given the study subject could potentially have influenced them in some way. Perhaps a charitable interpretation of data, a study design flaw, a questionable methodology, potential financial incentives or social incentives. The list of potential conflicts is too numerous to print here. With that under consideration and also keeping in mind the data we just went through, I invite you to get to know 21 authors who are credited with the studies while weighing their COI’s with the data as well as the potential career/financial incentives. After you’ve done so, ask yourself, “if I had this stage of melanoma, how confident would I be accepting this treatment?” The story is yet to be told since it has already been approved based on short term data. I guess the public is the price gauged guinea pig at this point and that my friends, is the point.

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Author Conflicts of Interest Statements JASON CHESNEY Consulting or advisory role with Amgen. Research funding from Replimune, Amgen, Iovance Biotherapeutics, and Fate Therapeutics. KARL D. LEWIS Received honoraria from Array BioPharma and Iovance Biotherapeutics. Consulting or advisory role with Array BioPharma, Merck, Roche, Regeneron, Sanofi, Iovance Biotherapeutics, and Nektar. Research funding from Roche/Genentech, Merck, Array BioPharma, Incyte, Nektar, Iovance Biotherapeutics, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Kartos Therapeutics, OncoSec, Regeneron, Alkermes, Neon Therapeutics, Ultimovacs, Senhwa Biosciences, Replimune, Amgen, and Seagen. Travel, accommodations, and expenses from Merck, Roche/Genentech, Regeneron, Neon Therapeutics, and Alkermes. Uncompensated relationships with Roche/Genentech and Regeneron. HARRIET KLUGER Consulting or advisory role with Bristol-Myers Squibb, Clinigen, Shionogi, Chemocentryx, Calithera, Signatera, GigaGen, GI Reviewers, and Merck. Research funding from Apexigen, Bristol-Myers Squibb, and Merck. OMID HAMID Received honoraria and consulting or advisory role with numerous pharmaceutical companies, including Aduro, Akeso, and Amgen. Research funding from several companies, including Arcus, Aduro, and Amgen. Speaker’s bureau for Bristol-Myers Squibb, Novartis, Pfizer, and Sanofi Regeneron. Eric Whitman Consultant or advisory role with Merck. Research funding received as site principal investigator for multiple studies. Speaker’s bureau for Bristol-Myers Squibb, Regeneron, and Castle Biosciences. Sajeve Thomas Honoraria, consulting or advisory role, research funding, speaker’s bureau, and covered travel expenses with companies like Bristol-Myers Squibb and Merck. Martin Wermke Received honoraria from Novartis, Pfizer, and Roche. Consulting or advisory role with a list of companies including Bristol-Myers Squibb and Novartis. Research funding from Roche. Travel and expenses from Pfizer, Bristol-Myers Squibb, AstraZeneca, and others. Mike Cusnir Speaker’s bureau participation with Sirtex Medical. Evidio Domingo-Musibay Received honoraria from Castle Biosciences. Consulting or advisory role and speaker’s bureau with Regeneron. Research funding from Clinigen. Giao Q. Phan Honoraria from IBSA. Consulting or advisory role with Acella, Amneal, and Terns. Patents, royalties, or other intellectual property with Virginia Commonwealth University. John M. Kirkwood Consulting role with numerous companies including Amgen, Bristol-Myers Squibb, and Merck. Research trial support to institution from companies such as Amgen, Bristol-Myers Squibb, and Novartis. Jessica C. Hassel Received honoraria for talks from various companies including Almirall and Amgen. Advisory boards for companies such as GSK and MSD. Research funding from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Sun Pharma, and Sanofi. Travel, accommodations, and expenses from Sun Pharma. Marlena Orloff Consulting or advisory role with TriSalus, Immunocore, Ideaya, and Delcath. Her husband is an employee of GSK. James Larkin Received honoraria from companies including Eisai and Novartis. Consulting or advisory role with companies such as iOnctura and Merck. Research funding from Bristol-Myers Squibb, MSD, Novartis, and others. Travel, accommodations, and expenses from Pierre Fabre, Roche, and GSK. Jeffrey Weber Owns stock or other ownership interests in Biond, Instil Bio, OncoV4, and Evaxion. Honoraria and consulting or advisory role with companies including Bristol-Myers Squibb and GSK. Research funding from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Moderna, Merck, and others. Patents, royalties, or other intellectual property with Moffitt Cancer Center and Biodesix. Andrew J.S.Furness Consulting or advisory role with Immunocore and GSK. Speaker’s bureau participation with Bristol-Myers Squibb, Ipsen, and Eisai. Travel, accommodations, and expenses from ESMO. Nikhil I. Khushalani Owns stock and other interests in companies like Bellicum Pharmaceuticals. Consulting or advisory role with several companies including Bristol-Myers Squibb and AstraZeneca. Research funding from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Merck, Novartis, and others. Theresa Medina Consulting or advisory role with companies including Merck, Bristol-Myers Squibb, and Iovance Biotherapeutics. Michael E.Egger Consultant or advisory role with Iovance Biotherapeutics. Research funding from SkylineDx. Friedrich Graf Finckenstein, Madan Jagasia, Parameswaran Hari, Giri Sulur, WenFriedrich Shi, and Xiao Wu Are employees of Iovance Biotherapeutics and hold stock and/or stock options. FGF is in a leadership position at Iovance Biotherapeutics; owns stocks from other biotech and pharmaceutical companies; and holds patents or other intellectual property. PH additionally received honoraria and has been paid for consultant or advisory roles by various companies and received travel accommodations from others. Amod Sarnaik (Corresponding Author) Received honoraria and consulting or advisory roles with Iovance Biotherapeutics and other consultancies. Holds patents, royalties, or other intellectual property with institutions like Moffitt Cancer Center. Nothing to see here.

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Notice how tedious they make it to extract COI’s in a easily readable form.

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If you have made it this far, I commend you. I know this thread has not been an easy one to follow but I hope I have conveyed the issue at hand properly. Namely that we have government and industry working hand in glove for decades to get these drugs to market and we are supposed to take their word for it when they "fast track" these drugs and ignore the unbelievable amounts of COI's. They are willing to overlook horrendous side effects in order to kick open the regulatory door and open the floodgates of profit indefinitely. All at the expense of the public whom they are essentially experimenting on for profit.

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Here is a list of all of my threads so far for ease of access. I appreciate the support, more to come. Thread Topics 🧵 1. COVID-19 Vaccines 💉 2. VAERS📉 3. The PCR “Test”🧪 4. Masks 😷 5. Lockdowns 🔒 6. mRNA Approval for Kids 💉 7. Post 💉 Autopsies 8. Excess Death💀

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The FDA Just Fast Track Approved a New Tumor Infiltrating Lymphocyte Treatment (TIL) Called Amtagvi for Advanced Melanoma It's the first approval of its kind for skin cancer, potentially opening the floodgates for a new generation of treatments but at what cost? wethefree.substack.com
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New research reveals extensive conflicts of interest among participants in FDA workshops on hematology and oncology. The study found that 78% of US-based physician participants received industry payments, with an average annual payment of $16,434. Patient advocacy speakers and regulatory agency representatives were also financially supported by the pharmaceutical industry. Disclosure issues were also identified. The study highlights the intertwined relationship between government and industry, raising concerns about exploitation for profit.

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Thread 🧵 New research reveals extensive conflicts of interest among the presenters, panelists and moderators who participate in the FDA’s hematology and oncology workshops. https://t.co/sIAio6bGVj

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The paper, published in the European Society for Clinical Investigation analyzed financial ties between advisors and drug companies. Of course what they found only confirms what anyone who has been paying attention already knows. https://t.co/lsmdPUjLCt

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That we have a system that is so irredeemably corrupt that is simply cannot be entrusted to have our best interests at heart. Every single level is awash in conflicts of interests both blatant and expertly hidden.

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The study examined presenters, panelists, and moderators at FDA workshops from 2018 to 2022, finding that 78% of U.S.-based physician participants received industry payments within five years prior. The analysis focused on general payments, which do not include research funding, revealing an average annual payment of $16,434 within the study group. This amount surpasses the average annual payment of $7,750 typically received by physicians in this field.

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Workshops are uniquely different from advisory committee meetings because they focus on comprehensive regulatory strategies for a particular disease condition rather than being linked to specific drug products. While FDA commissioners cannot directly accept money from the industry to avoid potential bias, there exist several less obvious mechanisms within the agency that result in financial conflicts of interests, workshops and panels being two of them.

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On average, these payments were substantial. The average general payment over 5 years was $82,170, which breaks down to $16,434 per year, well above the median of $2,981 per year. Among the 52 organizations represented, 56% (n= 29) received funding from the industry based on the description of supporters on their webpage or their tax filings.

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23% received between $10,000 and $50,000 per year, 8% received between $50,000 and $100,000 per year and the top 3% received above $100,000 per year https://t.co/VRD1aebaVe

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This is not just physicians, a whopping 69% of patient advocacy speakers represented organizations financially supported by the pharmaceutical industry. The study also highlighted the “revolving door” politics, showing 16% of regulatory agency representatives later worked for the pharmaceutical industry, and 12% of industry reps had regulatory backgrounds.

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Here is the percentage of presenters, panellists and moderators with a conflict of interest among US physicians, representatives of regulatory agencies and representatives of patient advocacy organizations. https://t.co/08rLvUPsjv

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The diagram below illustrates the average annual general payments made to US-based physician presenters, moderators, and panelists, where the highest 3% earn over $100,000 annually. https://t.co/tM5GbyWJ8w

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Disclosure issues compound the problem. Only 50% of the presenters reviewed had disclosed their financial conflicts of interest during the workshops, with discrepancies found in the data from the Open Payments database.

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This study highlights the myriad ways that government and industry are intertwined in hidden ways, all the while insisting they are independent and solely in it for the health of the people they exploit for profit. It truly is “turtles all the way down” with these people and unless we have a major reformation nothing is going to stop the exploitation of the populace at the hands of greed filled ego maniacs with a messiah complex. Here is a link to the study referenced if you’d like to read it yourself: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1APbxEqbwJbNCMT8Ffw0aw2ws1mabMnbs/view?usp=drivesdk

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The Princess Maxima Center is facing criticism for distancing itself from a distinguished academic who claims there is a clear link between COVID vaccines and excess deaths. Some argue that this could be the biggest medical mistake and corporate crime ever.

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BREAKING NEWS NETHERLANDS: ‘It’s an absolute disgrace that the Princess Maxima Center is trying to distance itself from one of its most distinguished academics regarding a very thorough and meticulously peer reviewed paper. For all those critical thinkers with high ethical principles a substantial link with the covid vaccines and excess deaths is clearly based on irrefutable evidence. All those trying to undermine what is likely to turn out to be the greatest medical mistake and corporate crime in history are either incompetent, immoral or both’

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🚨🚨🚨BREAKING: In the Netherlands one of the leading newspapers wrote a hit piece directed against the balanced and carefully phrased Mostert et al. (BMJ Public Health) paper that suggested a possible link with covid vaccines and excess deaths. Instead of defending her, her home institution, the Prinses Maxima Center for Pediatric Oncology, threw the authors under the bus. They distance themselves from the study and are investigating possible wrongdoings. https://www.prinsesmaximacentrum.nl/en/news-events/news/the-princess-maxima-center-distances-itself-from-publication-excess-mortality-during-covid-19-pandemic Mostert is an experienced and courageous researcher, who has previously been applauded for taking on the topic of corruption and conflicts of interest in medical practice in middle and lower income countries. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31657188/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26248847/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22106048/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32613805/ Interesting question in this regard, did the experts cited in the hit piece disclose their potential conflicts of interest? Also the Princess Maxima Center receives funding from the pharmaceutical industry (€800,000 according to their 2023 statement), including from Pfizer sponsored clinical trials and AstraZeneca sponsored projects. Shouldn't the Princess Maxima Center recuse itself from the investigations because of potential conflicts of interest?

The Princess Máxima Center distances itself from publication Excess mortality during COVID-19 pandemic - Prinses Máxima Centrum Serious questions have arisen regarding the publication “Excess mortality across countries in the Western World since the COVID-19 pandemic: ‘Our World in Data’ estimates of January 2020 to December 2022”. Therefore, we will further investigate the scientific quality of this study. The Princess Máxima Center deeply regrets that this publication may give the impression that the importance of vaccinations is being questioned.Originally, the idea was to look at the effect of COVID measures on, among other things, the mortality rate of children with cancer in low-income countries. During the course of the study, the focus shifted and diverted in a direction that we felt was too far from our expertise: pediatric oncology. We are not experts in epidemiology, nor do we want to give that impression. The Máxima Center therefore emphatically distances itself from this publication. We should have been more alert to the formation and results of this publication and will further investigate the way it was created. If it turns out that carelessness was involved in the realization of this publication, it will of course be withdrawn. We, as the Princess Máxima Center, want to emphasize that we strongly support vaccination, and that this publication should certainly not be read as an argument against vaccination. The study in no way demonstrates a link between vaccinations and excess mortality; that is explicitly not the researchers' finding. We therefore regret that this impression has been created. prinsesmaximacentrum.nl
All It Takes for Corruption in Health Systems to Triumph, Is Good People Who Do Nothing Comment on "We Need to Talk About Corruption in Health Systems" - PubMed Numerous investigations demonstrate that the problem of corruption in the health sector is enormous and has grave negative consequences for patients. Nevertheless, the problem of corruption in health systems is far from eminent in the international health policy debate. Hutchinson, Balabanova, and M … pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Corruption in health-care systems and its effect on cancer care in Africa - PubMed At the government, hospital, and health-care provider level, corruption plays a major role in health-care systems in Africa. The returns on health investments of international financial institutions, health organisations, and donors might be very low when mismanagement and dysfunctional structures o … pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Effect of corruption on medical care in low-income countries - PubMed Effect of corruption on medical care in low-income countries pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Global Problem of Hospital Detention Practices - PubMed Although an official definition by the World Health Organization (WHO) or any other authority is currently lacking, hospital detention practices (HDP) can be described as: "refusing release of either living patients after medical discharge is clinically indicated or refusing release of bodies of dec … pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Saved - October 15, 2024 at 1:51 AM
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I’m frustrated with the belief that there are no conflicts of interest within the FDA, CDC, and NIH. While some information is hidden, other sources reveal the truth. They acknowledge the conflict but prioritize their investors, mainly pharmaceutical companies, and their royalty rates are highly profitable. There's even a book detailing this system. Under the Bayh-Dole law, government scientists can earn royalties from their discoveries. Once you understand this, it’s hard to ignore when seeing pharmaceutical ads or receiving prescriptions. Apologies for any typos; my anger makes it tough to spot them.

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A : I’m sick and tired of individuals who believe there are no conflicts of interest within the FDA, CDC, and NIH. They can remove what stories they want, like this one to try to hide it, but there’s always other sources. This link is not available. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2824834?resultClick=…

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This one is available but they try to downplay the issue. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC545012/

Royalty payments to staff researchers cause new NIH troubles ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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Yes, they are very aware of the conflict of interest problem. However, they really do value their investors. Most of which are pharma companies. They make investing a cinch and let them know about royalties. https://www.cdc.gov/os/technology/techtransfer/inventors.htm

Royalty Information for CDC Inventors | OS | CDCMinusSASstats royalty information and frequently asked questions for CDC inventors cdc.gov

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Their royalty rates are extremely profitable. Here’s an example. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Frequency-of-royalty-rates-paid-by-the-top-15-pharmaceutical-companies-5_fig2_312519641#:~:text=According%20to%20one%20study%2C%20the,·0%25%20being%20most%20frequent.

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They even have a book explaining how all this works for biomedical research and drugs. https://techtransfercentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Royalty-Rates-for-Pharmaceuticals-and-Biotechnology-8th-Edition-Sample-Pages.pdf

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Companies even profit selling their patents to other companies. I wonder what they charge for that. 🤔 https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizers-deal-medicines-patent-pool-includes-35-companies-12-countries-produce-generic

Pfizer's deal with Medicines Patent Pool includes 35 companies from 12 countries to produce generic Paxlovid As the coronavirus surged around the globe, Pfizer was among the vaccine makers who had to fend off criticism for protecting the technology behind its COVID-19 shots. fiercepharma.com

@missyTHX1138 - Melissa 🐭

Under a 1984 law known as Bayh-Dole, government scientists have a unique arrangement. They can collect royalties from pharmaceutical companies for discoveries they make while working for us https://fullmeasure.news/news/shows/conflicts-of-interest-02-23-2023

Conflicts of Interest Polls show that public trust in the scientific establishment has suffered immensely in the wake of Covid. That’s prompted many to ask new questions about confli fullmeasure.news

@missyTHX1138 - Melissa 🐭

They even have their own Coalition!https://bayhdolecoalition.org

The Bayh-Dole Coalition bayhdolecoalition.org

@missyTHX1138 - Melissa 🐭

Once you have seen how it works or read up on it, it’s hard to unsee it or not think about it every time you see a pharmaceutical commercial or have a doctor shove the latest drug at you with their prescription notepad. You may wish that you could forget. https://t.co/iNYZ3wEoOo

@missyTHX1138 - Melissa 🐭

Any typos found please forgive me. When I’m angry it’s even harder for me to spot them, and I refuse to pay for a blue check just to be able to correct a few mistakes.

Saved - December 10, 2024 at 10:05 AM
reSee.it AI Summary
I believe @PeterHotez is a sincere scientist, but I also see a troubling pattern in his actions. He initially expressed skepticism about vaccines but later advocated for them, leading to significant criticism. His funding sources raise questions about his motives, and his language towards critics is alarming, labeling them as anti-science or even terrorists. I find his recent claims and publications increasingly absurd, and I’m frustrated with the scientific community's response to dissent. This has pushed me to become a citizen journalist to address these issues.

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

🧵THREAD: @PeterHotez is a sincere and non-corrupt scientist who has been right about everything in the last four years.

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

1/ @PeterHotez has been spreading lies from the beginning. For example, in May 2021, he advocated vaccinating children to achieve herd immunity. His narrative was uncritically pushed by the MSM, and millions of children were harmed because of him. (Just look at his eyes!)

Video Transcript AI Summary
Vaccinating kids before the next school year is realistic. A study with around 1,200 adolescents showed no COVID cases in the vaccinated group, indicating high efficacy. Vaccinating adolescents is crucial, especially as some are being hospitalized, particularly those with underlying conditions. To effectively interrupt virus transmission, we need 80-85% vaccination coverage, which can be achieved by including adolescents. This will lead to a safer school year for students and staff. However, there will be challenges in public acceptance, as some parents may be hesitant about the new mRNA technology. Ongoing communication and advocacy will be essential to address concerns and encourage vaccination, which is expected to increase over time as more kids get vaccinated without adverse effects.
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Speaker 0: What of this? Kids being vaccinated before next school year. Is that realistic? Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it is. I mean, the study is not that big. It's about 1200, adolescents, 12 to 15 in the vaccination group and a similar number in the placebo group. And what it showed is there were 18 cases of COVID in the placebo group and 0 in the vaccinated group. That's how you got to the 100%. I would guess as you get to much larger studies, it'll probably come down a little bit similar. It'll probably be similar to the very x to very high level of protection that we see in in adults. So the question is, where do we go from here? I think there's few reason to vaccinate adolescents. We are seeing adolescents go into pediatric intensive care units. They are getting sick, especially those with underlying risk factors. And as you point out, if we're going to, actually interrupt virus transmission, we have to get to 80, 85 percent of the population vaccinated now that we have the B117 variant, which is so highly transmissible. And I think we could do that by including adolescents. And and now we're going to see a pretty safe fall school year for middle schools, junior high schools, and high schools because the students will be vaccinated, the teachers and staff. So that's there's a lot to look forward to because of this news. Speaker 0: Doctor Hotez, I talked to a Jersey soccer mom who works here at CNBC just yesterday, and she said, you know, I've got a 16 year old, a 12 year old I mean, 13 year old. I don't know. I I think that they probably need to wait. To that soccer mom and millions across the country, what do you say? Speaker 1: Yeah. There's gonna be a have to be a lot of public communication and a lot of advocacy that needs to be done because parents are going to be a bit skittish about at least some parents about a brand new, mRNA technology, for their kids. So that's something that, what number of us have anticipated. So there's gonna have to be a a lot of discussion. So it may take some time. You may not see that full level of compliance, at least for the first few months. And but I think it will grow organically as we see kids get vaccinated with an no one toward effect.

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

2/ The problem is that until April 2020, he was claiming the opposite. Back then, Hotez expressed concerns about a potential vaccine for the seasonal cold virus. But how did it come to pass that he suddenly changed his opinion and labeled all critics as anti-science?

Video Transcript AI Summary
Concerns have arisen regarding the safety of coronavirus vaccines, particularly due to observations made during their development. Laboratory animals exhibited immune pathology similar to issues seen with respiratory virus vaccines in the 1960s, notably with the respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) vaccine, which resulted in adverse effects and even deaths in some cases. This phenomenon, known as paradoxical immune enhancement, occurs when vaccinated individuals experience worse outcomes upon exposure to the virus. The RSV vaccine setbacks halted its development for decades, but efforts are being renewed. The potential for similar issues with coronavirus vaccines has raised alarms among researchers, highlighting the need for caution and further understanding of these immune responses.
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Speaker 0: One of the things that we're not hearing a lot about is the unique potential safety problem of coronavirus vaccines. When we started developing coronavirus vaccines in our colleagues, we noticed in laboratory animals that they started to show some of the same immune pathology that resembled what had happened 50 years earlier. So we said, oh my God, this is going to be problematic. We don't entirely understand the basis of it. But we recognize that it's a real problem for certain respiratory virus vaccines. This was first found in the early 1960s with the respiratory syncytial virus vaccines. Some of those kids who got the vaccine actually did worse. And I believe there were 2 deaths in the consequence of that study because what happens with certain types of respiratory virus vaccines, you get immunized. And then when you get actually exposed to the virus, you get this kind of paradoxical immune enhancement phenomenon. And we don't entirely understand the basis of it, but we recognize that it's a real problem for certain respiratory virus vaccines. That killed the RSV program for decades. Now the Gates Foundation is taking it up again. But when we started developing coronavirus vaccines and our colleagues, we noticed in laboratory animals that they started to show some of the same immune pathology that resembled what had happened 50 years earlier. So we said, oh my god, this is gonna be problematic.

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

3/ Here too, the “follow the money” principle applies. It appears that Peter Hotez is a conscienceless mouthpiece who will do anything for money. In this case, he received funds from the @gatesfoundation. I doubt that these were the only financial contributions he received.

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

4/ It is therefore not surprising that Hotez changes his stance on the typical clinical trials of vaccines in no time. But just see for yourselves – your jaws will drop.

Video Transcript AI Summary
Vaccine development typically takes 10 to 25 years, with the fastest recorded time in the U.S. being around 3 to 4 years. This timeline reflects the necessary clinical testing to ensure safety and efficacy. The development cycle for COVID-19 vaccines aligns closely with previous vaccine timelines, showing only modest variations. It's important for people to understand this process to alleviate concerns about the COVID-19 vaccines.
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Speaker 0: It's usually a 10 to 25 year time frame. People forget how long it really takes to develop, an effective and safe vaccine and do all the adequate clinical testing. I think the current record for developing a vaccine from start to licensure in the United States is around 3 or 4 years. So that's the realistic time frame we have to start thinking about. When you look at the timelines of coronavirus, this COVID 19 vaccines, it really follows the same progression as almost any other vaccine. The vaccine development cycle for COVID 19 vaccines very much goes along with what we've seen before. And there are some very variances, but but modest. And, I think that's an important story for people to know if they're concerned about taking COVID 19 vaccines.

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

5/ Yet, the most dangerous aspect of Hotez is his use of language and the demonization of those who think differently. He did not hesitate to label critical people as anti-science and anti-Semitic, even going so far as to demand that they be treated like terrorists. He stated...

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

6/ "The task force should include experts who have tackled complex global threats such as terrorism because anti-science is now approaching similar levels of peril. It is becoming increasingly clear that advancing immunization requires a counteroffensive.” https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01084-x

COVID vaccines: time to confront anti-vax aggression Halting the spread of the coronavirus will require a high-level counteroffensive against new destructive forces. nature.com

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

7/ In this very publication,@PeterHotez even managed to integrate his hatred of Russia, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Covid vaccines, and his supposed witch-hunt against the "anti-scientists." He also wrote, "The United Nations and the highest levels of governments must take direct, even confrontational, approaches with Russia and move to dismantle anti-vaccine groups in the United States." - What the fvck, Peter?

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

8/ As if this wasn’t already enough, one of his publications reveals the absurdity of his pseudo-scientific fantasy, claiming that we need malnutrition vaccines. In September 2022, Hotez once again managed to publish his mental diarrhea in another high-impact journal. https://t.co/18HHvHdPh1

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

9/ Last June, Hotez said that ‘disease X’ is coming, that will be much worse than Covid. This raises 4 questions: ▪️How'd he know? ▪️Why does he still live that unhealthily? ▪️When will he finally get arrested for his involvement in GoF research? ▪️How much did Pfizer pay him? https://t.co/hK7ESSnpRl

Video Transcript AI Summary
Could the next pandemic surpass the severity of COVID-19? Experts warn that a new threat, referred to as Disease X, is likely to emerge. Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine, emphasizes the need for the U.S. to commit to better pandemic preparedness. He notes that while the next pandemic may not be as severe as COVID-19, it could still pose significant risks. The rise in pandemics is attributed to various factors, including climate change, which affects animal migration and the transmission of viral pathogens. Although the timing of Disease X remains uncertain, scientists agree that it is inevitable. More funding is needed for diagnostics, vaccines, and supporting researchers studying these threats.
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Speaker 0: Well, could the next pandemic make the height of the COVID 19 outbreak look mild? That's what some experts are predicting for what's being called disease x. Speaker 1: So I am very worried that we we just don't. We, as a nation, we haven't made that commitment to really fully protect American people. Speaker 0: We caught up with internationally recognized dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor and codirector of the Texas Children's Hospital Center For Vaccine Development, doctor Peter Hotez, who's traveling to get his take on the topic. Speaker 1: We have a likelihood that new pandemic threats that people call the disease x are going to be rising on a regular basis. Speaker 0: And doctor Hotez says disease x, the next pandemic, could hit hard whenever it arrives. Well, how do you think some experts are predicting the next pandemic will make COVID 19 look like a walk in the park? Speaker 1: I've written about this as well. I wrote for the acoustic chronicle a couple of months back that COVID 19 is just the warm up act. The next pandemic may not be as severe, but it could be much more severe. Speaker 0: After years of pandemics popping up, including SARS and h one n 1 early in the 2000 Speaker 1: Ebola in 2014. We had Zika in 2016, and now we've got COVID 19. Speaker 0: Doctor Hotez says that's why the US Office of Pandemic Preparedness was created, but he believes more should be done. Speaker 1: Having the funds available to make countermeasures for new diagnostics, new vaccines, and at the same time, being able to, support, the virologists, the scientists who actually studying these pathogens. Speaker 0: Why are we seeing so many pandemics? Speaker 1: It's one of the most common questions I've asked is it's a confluence of 21st century forces. A big one is climate change, which is altering the migration of, animals that can transmit these, viral pathogens. Speaker 0: Now no one knows when disease x, the next pandemic will hit, but scientists say it is coming.

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

10/ “We have some big-picture stuff coming down the pike starting on January 21st…” Hotez said this just last week, referencing January 21st — just one day after Trump’s inauguration. He’s telling you their plans right to your face, knowing he's protected by those in power. https://t.co/HWuBRbgivB

Video Transcript AI Summary
We need to pay attention to several emerging health threats. Starting January 21st, H5N1 is spreading among wild birds and poultry in the western U.S., with sporadic human cases reported. There's a risk of human-to-human transmission. Additionally, a new coronavirus may be developing in Asia, and mosquito-borne viruses like dengue and Zika could return along the Gulf Coast. Vaccine-preventable diseases are also on the rise due to anti-vaccine sentiments, with a fivefold increase in whooping cough cases and multiple measles outbreaks this year. Polio has been detected in New York's wastewater. A strong response team is essential to address these challenges effectively.
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Speaker 0: Here's here's the reason why we need to care about this stuff, Nicole, is that we have some big picture stuff coming down the pike starting on January 21st. Mister Bloomberg mentioned h five n one. That I'm really worried about. It's all over, wild, birds, on the western part of the United States and going up in the north. It's getting into the poultry. We're seeing, sporadic human cases, no human to human transmission yet, but that could happen. It's in the cattle. It's in the milk. And that's just the beginning. We have another major coronavirus likely brewing, in Asia. We've had SARS in 2002, SARS 2 COVID 19 in 2019. And we know these viruses are jumping from bats to people thousands of times a year. But that's, there's still more. We know, that we have a big problem with mosquito transmitted viruses all along the Gulf Coast where I am here in Texas. So we're expecting dengue and, possibly Zika virus coming back or a poochae virus, maybe even yellow fever. And there's more. Then we have all this sharp rise in vaccine preventable diseases going up because of in part the anti vaccine activism that's so prominent right now. We have a fivefold rise in pertussis cases, whooping cough over the last year, 15 measles outbreaks this year. We've got polio that's been in the wastewater in in New York state. All that's gonna come crashing down on January 21st on on the Trump administration. We need a really, really good team to be able to handle this.

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

11/ Btw: Whenever someone criticized Hotez in the past, his friends and fellow believers came crawling out of the woodwork to discredit them as anti-Semites. In this case, @GYamey associated "evil" with Judaism. And these were the ‘experts’, MSM listened to for 3 years. FAIL! https://t.co/Z3pOCylq8i

@goddeketal - Dr. Simon Goddek

12/ Holding a PhD in biotech and having worked in academia for over 10 years, I’m done with science. One reason for this is people like @PeterHotez, who participate in propaganda videos like this one. I’ve now become a citizen journalist to combat this corruption. Follow me! https://t.co/tqRhayD4q7

Video Transcript AI Summary
Anti-vaccine activism, which I refer to as anti-science aggression, has emerged as a significant global threat. During the COVID pandemic, 200,000 Americans lost their lives due to vaccine refusal, despite widespread availability. This movement is now spreading to low and middle-income countries and poses a greater risk than gun violence, global terrorism, nuclear threats, or cyber attacks. In the U.S., it has become intertwined with far-right extremism, a trend also seen in Germany. Addressing this issue requires political solutions to combat the rising tide of anti-science sentiment.
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Speaker 0: We have to recognize that anti vaccine activism, which I actually call anti science aggression, has now become a major killing force globally. During the COVID pandemic in the United States, 200,000 Americans needlessly lost their lives because they refused a COVID vaccine even after vaccines became widely available. And now the anti vaccine activism is expanding across the world, even into low and middle income countries. It's a killing force. Antiscience now kills more people than things like gun violence, global terrorism, nuclear proliferation, or cyber attacks. And now it's become a political movement in the US. It's linked to far extremism on the far right, same in Germany. So this is a new face of anti science aggression, and so we need political solutions to address this.
Saved - December 15, 2024 at 6:19 PM
reSee.it AI Summary
I’ve uncovered some troubling connections between UPENN, Pfizer, and IQVIA, suggesting that the data claiming HCQ doesn’t work and Pfizer vaccines do is questionable at best. This data seems to be fabricated, and I recall the protests earlier this year where I noticed suspicious activities involving surveillance and intimidation tactics against students. Additionally, I pointed out a specific connection between Sloan Rachmuth and IQVIA, highlighting their collaboration. I’m committed to using my insights to combat misinformation in this ongoing battle.

@DecentBackup - BackupDecentFiJC

PENN/IQVIA: Well, well, well. How the turntables. 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 👺OBSERVATIONAL HEALTH DATA SCIENCES AND INFORMATICS (OHDSI) *UPENN/PFIZER/HCQ: As it turns out, much of the BULLSHIT “HCQ doesn’t work!” & “PFIZER VACCINES WORK!” DATA that’s largely coming from UPENN (and others) and is being purported by @jsm2334 here… …is being created basically out of thin air, in collaboration with none other than: 👺IQVIA (🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣) *NOTE: This is the ‘trials data’ that we’re totally NOT ALLOWED to see but should all just ‘trust him, bro’ on anyways. And why is IQVIA so important again? Welp… 👺Remember when those (Goldman Sachs-funded) “ON-CAMPUS PROTESTS” happened earlier this year, and I caught the RACHMUTH CREW SPYING ON COLLEGE STUDENTS/FACULTY/STAFF in coordination with fucking MOSSAD/ICC/Israeli MoSA? 👺And how MOSSAD was literally THREATENING AMERICAN COLLEGE STUDENTS with using FACIAL RECOGNITION SOFTWARE against any of them who weren’t “SUFFICIENTLY PRO-ISRAEL”, in order to FUCK UP THEIR FUTURE CAREER PROSPECTS and “MAKE THEIR DEGREES BECOME WORTHLESS”? 👺And how they proceeded to DOXX students/faculty/staff/executive leadership/trustees, tried getting them removed/fired/expelled and even SUCCEEDED at REMOVING THE UPENN PRESIDENT & A TRUSTEES BOARD MEMBER? Yeah, your boy does NOT. FUCKING. MISS.🇺🇸🫡

@DecentBackup - BackupDecentFiJC

@jsm2334, You should get it through your thick head that you’ll want to choose your words and steps wisely going forward. And be careful about throwing out big, defamatory words like “baselessly” at people you don’t know. Someone might just call your punk ass to the canvass for lying one of these days, “Prof”. PS: Tell Julie Platt, Marc Rowan, Leon Black, Ramanan Raghavendran, Ben Levitan, Herb Kleinberger, Jeff Hurst and the rest of the Staley Capital fa***ts up in Boston, MA we all said hello. We’ll see them soon. *By “Staley Capital”, I of course mean IN-Q-TEL, Cerberus, UJA (Mossad), Michael Crow, Apollo Global Management, Chris Darby, etc.

@DecentBackup - BackupDecentFiJC

Wanna see some creepy PROPHETIC shit? *Check out how ODDLY-SPECIFIC AF my comment here was from THREE MONTHS AGO: ✅09/08/2024: “Sloan is NO DIFFERENT than MARC ROWAN at APOLLO GLOBAL MANAGEMENT, UJA & WHARTON SCHOOL…” *As luck would have it, that’s because they ARE no different. They’re literally WORKING TOGETHER. 👺SLOAN RACHMUTH’S HUSBAND, GUY RACHMUTH, is SENIOR VP at IQVIA!!!🤣 *NOTE: It’s not like I ASKED for this freakish ability to recall/discern, or to acquire some mutant-level of intuition. But I’ll damn sure use the gifts God’s given me, just as He’s given to many others close to me whom I fight beside, for the purposes of WINNING this informational, spiritual, existential war. 💥PS: Shoutout to http://arkmedic.info and @Jikkyleaks for the OHDSI, IQVIA and PENN “PFIZER VAX/HCQ DATA” receipts!🔥

Saved - December 15, 2024 at 10:15 PM
reSee.it AI Summary
I question the authenticity of the UPenn Perelman School of Medicine, suggesting it's a facade controlled by foreign interests. I wonder if the staff are genuinely qualified or if they're merely acting under external guidance, possibly even receiving instructions from abroad. It feels like a setup for espionage rather than legitimate education. I doubt that either Jeffrey Morris or the institution could withstand a thorough audit, whether financial or academic.

@DecentBackup - BackupDecentFiJC

UPENN PERELMAN SCHOOL OF MEDICINE 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 What are you actually DOING here? AYFKM? I mean… it’s all fake AF, isn’t it? Be honest.🤦🏻‍♂️ It’s just one big MOSSAD/IQT-controlled ops and espionage apparatus, staffed with a buncha LARP’ing Israeli spies pretending to have degrees and expertise they don’t have, isn’t it? I bet most of these clowns even have Tel Aviv in their earpiece every gat damn day helping them “wing it” through, coaching them on how to carry themselves and answer questions on the spot, just so Israel can steal from the American People and spy on our sons and daughters a little bit longer, amirite? Something tells me neither JEFFREY MORRIS (@jsm2334), nor UPENN, would survive even an halfway-thorough audit, be it accounting, accreditation or otherwise.

@DecentBackup - BackupDecentFiJC

PENN/IQVIA: Well, well, well. How the turntables. 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 👺OBSERVATIONAL HEALTH DATA SCIENCES AND INFORMATICS (OHDSI) *UPENN/PFIZER/HCQ: As it turns out, much of the BULLSHIT “HCQ doesn’t work!” & “PFIZER VACCINES WORK!” DATA that’s largely coming from UPENN (and others) and is being purported by @jsm2334 here… …is being created basically out of thin air, in collaboration with none other than: 👺IQVIA (🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣) *NOTE: This is the ‘trials data’ that we’re totally NOT ALLOWED to see but should all just ‘trust him, bro’ on anyways. And why is IQVIA so important again? Welp… 👺Remember when those (Goldman Sachs-funded) “ON-CAMPUS PROTESTS” happened earlier this year, and I caught the RACHMUTH CREW SPYING ON COLLEGE STUDENTS/FACULTY/STAFF in coordination with fucking MOSSAD/ICC/Israeli MoSA? 👺And how MOSSAD was literally THREATENING AMERICAN COLLEGE STUDENTS with using FACIAL RECOGNITION SOFTWARE against any of them who weren’t “SUFFICIENTLY PRO-ISRAEL”, in order to FUCK UP THEIR FUTURE CAREER PROSPECTS and “MAKE THEIR DEGREES BECOME WORTHLESS”? 👺And how they proceeded to DOXX students/faculty/staff/executive leadership/trustees, tried getting them removed/fired/expelled and even SUCCEEDED at REMOVING THE UPENN PRESIDENT & A TRUSTEES BOARD MEMBER? Yeah, your boy does NOT. FUCKING. MISS.🇺🇸🫡

Saved - December 29, 2024 at 9:22 AM
reSee.it AI Summary
I discovered that the CDC is once again collaborating with the CSTE, a non-profit funded by Bill Gates, to redefine case definitions, this time for Bird Flu. Their recommendations echo previous COVID protocols, including using PCR tests and vague diagnostic criteria. I’m concerned about the implications of these actions, especially with the potential for another "plandemic." It feels like a repeat of past tactics, and I believe it's time for Americans to be vigilant and demand accountability.

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

BREAKING - Bird Flu 🙄 This thread will get you started on the Bill Gates' CDC latest attempt to Plan A Demic. Here's what I found published by the CDC today. THREAD.🇺🇸❤️

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

The CSTE is the same non-profit group paid for by Bill Gates that set the definition for what constitutes a COVID case on April 5, 2020. The CDC adopted their recommendations in violation of 3 Federal Laws on April 14, 2020 and COVID Fraud was born in the USA.

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

The CSTE is 'recommending' death certificate changes... Where did we see that before? http://www.BeyondTheCon.com

Join The Fight for a Grand Jury Investigation! Join the fight to see an independent Special Grand Jury investigate all aspects of COVID and hold anyone guilty of wrong doing accountable! beyondthecon.com

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

The CSTE is 'recommending' to the CDC🙄 how to define a case for the Bird Flu. Where have we seen that before? http://www.BeyondTheCon.com

Join The Fight for a Grand Jury Investigation! Join the fight to see an independent Special Grand Jury investigate all aspects of COVID and hold anyone guilty of wrong doing accountable! beyondthecon.com

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

The CSTE is 'recommending' the CDC to use PCR to diagnose again.🙄 Where have we seen that before? http://www.BeyondTheCon.com

Join The Fight for a Grand Jury Investigation! Join the fight to see an independent Special Grand Jury investigate all aspects of COVID and hold anyone guilty of wrong doing accountable! beyondthecon.com

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

The CSTE is 'recommending' the CDC to use 'close contact' to diagnose again.🙄 Where have we seen that before? http://www.BeyondTheCon.com

Join The Fight for a Grand Jury Investigation! Join the fight to see an independent Special Grand Jury investigate all aspects of COVID and hold anyone guilty of wrong doing accountable! beyondthecon.com

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

The CSTE is 'recommending' the CDC that if you cough ONCE... You can be diagnosed with Bird Flu.🙄 Where have we seen that before? http://www.BeyondTheCon.com

Join The Fight for a Grand Jury Investigation! Join the fight to see an independent Special Grand Jury investigate all aspects of COVID and hold anyone guilty of wrong doing accountable! beyondthecon.com

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

The CSTE is 'recommending' the CDC not really care if they can distinguish one type of flu from another... Hi Deborah Bird... Just like last time huh?🙄 Where have we seen that before? http://www.BeyondTheCon.com

Join The Fight for a Grand Jury Investigation! Join the fight to see an independent Special Grand Jury investigate all aspects of COVID and hold anyone guilty of wrong doing accountable! beyondthecon.com

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

The CSTE is 'recommending' the CDC to reference the WHO.🙄 Where have we seen that before? http://www.BeyondTheCon.com

Join The Fight for a Grand Jury Investigation! Join the fight to see an independent Special Grand Jury investigate all aspects of COVID and hold anyone guilty of wrong doing accountable! beyondthecon.com

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

So who wrote this 'position statement' for the CSTE, a non-profit, non-governmental organization controlled by Bill Gates? Yeah... The CDC. Hey @RobertKennedyJr is this how they will 'resign' ... By preventing the inauguration under the lie of an emergency?

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr Here is the new list of criminals at the CDC and CSTE... I have the old list right here too. http://www.BeyondTheCon.com

Join The Fight for a Grand Jury Investigation! Join the fight to see an independent Special Grand Jury investigate all aspects of COVID and hold anyone guilty of wrong doing accountable! beyondthecon.com

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr So what is the CDC doing in addition to rolling out criminals like Deborah Birx? Hmmm... Lying that person to person is on going.

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr Making sure another bioweapon is ready. Bill Gates has hundreds in development to choose from.

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr Publishing the sequence they created in GENBANK just like they did for COVID... Even though they cant prove it. Read the next post... In this thread.👇️

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr Seriously?! They're making this shit up again! If you fall for this one... 🙄

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr This is what Bill Gates and his 'the next pandemic will get their attention' smirk wants you to believe. That they sequenced it... So read the previous post again.👆️ It is illegal for any federal agency to lie to the taxpayer. @elonmusk DOGE the CDC.

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr @elonmusk They have been trying (and failing) to create this plandemic since Feb of this year. I suspect this is the 'in case of emergency break glass' hail lucifer attempt. Cant have @RobertKennedyJr heading the HHS.🇺🇸❤️

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr @elonmusk Have you had enough yet Americans? I have. It's torch and pitchfork time.🔥

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr @elonmusk @realDonaldTrump @elonmusk @RobertKennedyJr @DrJBhattacharya @AaronSiriSG @RenzTom @naomirwolf @wideawake_media @VigilantFox @ShannonJoyRadio @GenFlynn @P_McCulloughMD @lifebiomedguru Y'all better take a look at this... They're using the COVID playbook again.🇺🇸❤️

@DrHenryEaly - Dr Henry Ealy

@RobertKennedyJr @elonmusk @realDonaldTrump @DrJBhattacharya @AaronSiriSG @RenzTom @naomirwolf @wideawake_media @VigilantFox @ShannonJoyRadio @GenFlynn @P_McCulloughMD @lifebiomedguru References... CSTE https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.cste.org/resource/resmgr/position_statements_files_2023/24-ID-09_Novel_Influenza_A.pdf CDC https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-12232024.html

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I recently watched a heated debate on CNN where I challenged Dr. Paul Offit on his financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry while discussing vaccine safety. I highlighted how conflicts of interest undermine public trust and questioned the focus on measles over pressing health issues like obesity and chronic disease. Despite Offit's assertions about vaccine safety, I argued that the media often overlooks critical health concerns. The segment ended abruptly, showcasing how mainstream media struggles when confronted with challenging viewpoints.

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Calley Means Stuns CNN Viewers With Two Devastating Takedowns Live on Air Paul Offit and Pamela Brown came prepared for a debate. What they received was a reckoning. 🧵 THREAD https://t.co/iUBRquJ8Hf

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Calley Means (@CalleyMeans), ex-pharma consultant turned industry critic, came out swinging on CNN Wednesday in a fiery debate against infamous vaccine pusher Dr. Paul Offit. Offit thought he could call RFK Jr. an anti-vaxxer without his own financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry being exposed—but he was wrong. Things immediately got heated when Means exposed Offit’s shocking conflicts of interest on live TV while CNN’s Pamela Brown stood by and let it happen like a deer caught in headlights. “What’s causing distrust in public health authorities is conflicts of interest, like Dr. Offit taking millions of dollars from pharmaceutical makers like Merck while approving and recommending pharmaceuticals on ACIP committees. “Dr. Offit says that science is always settled when he himself has approved vaccines that have been recalled for causing organ failure in kids. “Dr. Offit is talking about measles… But there were 300 deaths from measles a year before the invention of the vaccine. We have 38% of children right now with prediabetes. Bobby is focused on that. He’s focused on reorganizing the department. And that’s what we should be talking about, not this distraction,” Means argued.

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What's causing distrust in public health isn't the idea of public health itself, but the actions of its leaders. We need to address the conflicts of interest, like Dr. Offit taking millions from pharmaceutical companies while approving their products. It's also about holding people accountable when they make definitive statements about science, yet have approved products, like vaccines, that have later been recalled for causing harm. While measles is important, let's remember that before the vaccine, there were 300 deaths a year from measles. Today, we have a much bigger problem, with 38% of children having prediabetes. It is important that we focus on reorganizing the department to address issues like this, instead of being distracted.
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Speaker 0: Trust in public health. No. It it it's the public health leaders themselves. It's people defending with the record that's happening to health at HHS. Why cuts are bad? Of course, we should make cuts. Of course, the personnel should be changed. What's causing distrust in public health authorities is conflict of interest, like doctor Offutt taking millions of dollars from pharmaceutical makers like Merck while approving and recommending pharmaceuticals on ACIP committees. It's the fact that doctor Offutt's saying that science is always settled, when he himself has approved vaccines that have been recalled for causing organ failure for kids. And it's the fact that doctor Offit is talking about measles, which is important. And I wanna be clear, Hamel. I don't wanna get this out. It's important. But there were three hundred deaths from measles a year before the invention of the vaccine. We have thirty eight percent of children right now having prediabetes. Bobby is focused on that. He's focused on reorganizing the department, and that's what we should be talking about, not this distraction.

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@calleymeans After Offit finished uncomfortably smiling during Means’ rebuke, he responded to the claims, saying, “I don’t have a relationship with a pharmaceutical company.” https://t.co/Z2KBFVNh7P

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I serve on the FDA's vaccine advisory committee because I don't have relationships with pharmaceutical companies, which is a requirement. I actually agree with some of the concerns raised, such as obesity rates, chronic illnesses, and overmedication of children. I even wrote a book about the excesses of modern medicine. However, I strongly disagree with the claim that vaccines are harmful, as RFK Jr. suggests. RFK Jr. continues to falsely claim that vaccines cause autism, and he's now targeting childhood vaccines, which will ultimately harm children.
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Speaker 0: Made a lot of claims there. I want you to respond to that. And we should note, you are a member of the FDA vaccine advisory committee, and you recently told CNN that RFK junior will hurt America's vaccine infrastructure. So please respond to that and tell us Speaker 1: And, Pamela, I hope we can disclose his I hope we can disclose his millions of dollars of pharmaceutical payments while serving in that committee. Speaker 0: Okay. Doctor Offit, please go ahead and respond. Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you're not allowed to serve on the FDA's vaccine advisory committee if you have a relationship with a pharmaceutical company. And so because I don't have a relationship with a pharmaceutical company, I'm able to serve on that committee. Secondly, and most importantly, actually, the things that that, that Cali talks about, I actually agree with in some ways. I think that we are, for example, more obese as a country than than we should be. And that the consequence of obesity like hypertension and type two diabetes, I think we do have, in many ways, more chronic illnesses. I think we overmedicate our children. I think there's many things we can do better. I actually wrote a book called Overkill When Modern Medicine Goes Too Far. So I agree with all that. What I don't agree with is that in any way, vaccines are are, harmful as RFK Jr says. I mean, RFK Jr continues to claim that vaccines cause autism when they don't. He's now made childhood vaccines a major target of this. And and that's that's, only gonna be to the detriment of children. Speaker 0: Hold on. No. No. Callie Callie, I have to let doctor Offit speak. This has to be a civil respectful conversation in order for this to work and for Americans, peep viewers to to soak this up. So I wanna let Doctor Offit finish and then I'll go to you, Callie, I promise. Go ahead Doctor Offit.

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But Means later questioned: “Is it appropriate for a member of a government advisory committee (ACIP) to have a $1.5 million salary paid by Merck and receive millions in pharma royalties while he’s issuing guidance on products those companies make?” https://t.co/uSf5aMFZoL

@calleymeans - Calley Means

Is it appropriate for a member of a government advisory committee to have a $1.5 million salary paid by Merck and receive millions in pharma royalties while he’s issuing guidance on products those companies make? https://t.co/Slm88xdWyH

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NEW: CNN frantically interrupts Calley Means as he exposes Paul Offit’s conflicts of interest and Big Pharma’s incentive to keep people sick. The direction of the conversation clearly had Pamela Brown on edge. @CalleyMeans: “Dr. Offit, as you know, you were the chair at the…

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I am for addressing issues like obesity and overmedicating children. Bobby Kennedy is fighting against the incentive for Pharma to profit from sick children. They don't make money when kids are healthy, and chronic disease is good for the health industry's bottom line. I support getting soda off of SNAP. When the data aren't on their side, RFK Jr. and personal injury lawyers attack the person. I don't have a conflict of interest. The Merck chair is defined by Penn, and there is no quid pro quo with an endowed chair. The science continually shows RFK Jr. is wrong about vaccines.
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Speaker 0: He talked about childhood vaccines, number one. He talked about electromagnetic radiation, number two. He talked about pesticides. He didn't talk about the things that Cali's talking about here, which is things like obesity or overmedicating children or sugar drapes. I'm all for that. I agree with you. You can have both Speaker 1: powerful he gave a he gave a powerful speech about these issues. This this is what Bobby Kinney is fighting against, doctor Offit. As you know, you were the chair at the Children's Hospital, the Merck chair. You you it was like a NASCAR driver wearing their sponsors. Merck paid your $1,500,000 salary. And this is what Bobby is saying, is that fundamentally, pharma can create good innovations, but they're foundationally incentivized for children to be sick. Pharma doesn't make money when children are healthy. The hospitals don't make money when the beds are empty. Chronic disease, just as a demonstrable statement of economic fact, is a great economic invention for the health industry which demonstrably makes money when patients are sick. And that's an incentive Bobby Kennedy is going hard after. I'm in Florida. I'm in I'm in a state senator's office right now. I'm actually lobbying for the state's SNAP bills, which Bobby is really supporting, to get soda off of SNAP. I think the problem is that the public health community, the Merck chairs of pediatricians, I mean, that is just insane. Merck does not have children's interest at heart. Merck itself has settled billions of dollars in criminal penalties for misleading and to know. Speaker 2: For transparency, you used to be a pharmaceutical rep. Right, Cali? Speaker 1: No. No. No. I was there about thirteen years ago with a was a was a lobbyist, which which included Speaker 2: So you were a lobbyist for pharmaceuticals. Okay. Speaker 1: That out. Speaker 2: Right. But really quick, we we do have to go. But doctor Offit, I have to have you respond to his claims about Merck and your ties. Speaker 0: Sure. What he does is what RFK Jr. Does, which is what all personal injury lawyer types do, which is when the the data aren't on their side, then they attack the person. I'm not Bobby Kennedy's ears. Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on, Callie. Let him talk. Chair? Callie, please. Please. Speaker 0: I I wanna I don't receive a a okay. It's it's it's I do not have a conflict of interest. The Merc chair is is defined defined by, Penn. And Penn, there is no quid pro quo to being having an endowed chair. Anybody who receives an endowed chair an endowed chair would know. Secondly, it's like because they they there aren't the data on their side regarding vaccines. They do what all personal injury lawyer types do, which is attack the witness. I'm not RFK Jr's problem. The science that has continually shown he's wrong about vaccines Speaker 1: for sure. Millions of people. That. That's Speaker 2: the problem. Thank you both for coming on. Thank you for Speaker 0: coming again. Of Speaker 2: Okay. Callie, I let you say your piece, doctor Offit. I let you also respond, and I I appreciate you coming on for this spirited discussion, shall we say? Thank you for joining us. We'll be right back.

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Offit went on to say that he doesn’t know what the cause of autism is, mentioning several “interesting” theories. However, he stated with certainty that vaccines are “the one thing that doesn’t cause autism.” “Vaccines, I think, are really the safest, best-tested things that we give to children,” Offit said.

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RFK Jr. continues to falsely claim that vaccines cause autism, and he's made childhood vaccines a major target. This is dangerous and will lead to the death of children. When RFK Jr. says we have more chronic diseases in children than ever before, he's citing the instance of autism spectrum disorder. There are many interesting causes of autism spectrum disorder, like the infant microbiome, genetics, or medicines that pregnant people take during their pregnancy. But by focusing on childhood vaccines, he's focusing on the one thing that doesn't cause autism. Vaccines are really the safest, best-tested things that we give to children, and that's what is making America healthy. To focus on vaccines as a target and claim that they're causing harm when they're not is only a detriment to America's children.
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Speaker 0: What I don't agree with is that in any way, vaccines are are, harmful as RFK Jr. Says. I mean, RFK Jr. Continues to claim that vaccines cause autism when they don't. He's now made childhood vaccines a major target of this. And and that's that's, only gonna be for the death of children. Hold on. Speaker 1: No. No. Callie Callie, I have to let doctor Offit speak. This has to be a civil respectful conversation in order for this to work and for Americans viewers to to soak this up. So I wanna let doctor Offit finish, and then I'll go to you, Cali. I promise. Go ahead, doctor Offit. Speaker 0: So I I think that when, for example, he says we have more chronic diseases in children than ever before, he says that the instance is one in thirty six. Well, that's the instance of autism spectrum disorder. There's a lot of interesting, cause or causes of autism spectrum disorder, like the infant microbiome or genetic or, medicines that women or pregnant people can take during their pregnancy. That's interesting. But by focusing on childhood vaccines, he's focusing on the one thing that doesn't cause autism. And so vaccines, I think, are really the safest, best tested things that we give to children, and that's what make is making America healthy again. And I think to focus on vaccines as as a target and and claim that they're causing harms when they're not is only a detriment to America's children.

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The next disaster for CNN unfolded when host Pamela Brown asked @CalleyMeans a vaccination question that completely backfired. Means flipped the script, using her question to highlight how the media obsesses over “measles” instead of focusing on health concerns that truly matter. PAMELA BROWN: “Is now a time to promote vaccines... especially among children who are being impacted by measles in places like Texas and in these six states where, according to health officials, they are unvaccinated?" CALLEY MEANS: “Pamela, with respect, why aren’t you asking me about the fact that 50% of teens have obesity? There are breathless segments being run and seen on [infectious disease] day after day after day, Pamela. It’s breathless coverage of five measles cases. “Why aren’t we asking why 16% of COVID deaths worldwide were Americans when we’re only 4% of the world population? Because the CDC said our immune system—no, it is related, Pamela. And let me say why: because the entire coverage of Bobby Kennedy is around measles. “The Democrats said the word ‘measles’ 25 times in the first hearing and said the words ‘obesity,’ ‘diabetes,’ and ‘chronic disease’ zero times. The HHS priority document under President Biden said the word ‘equity’ 25 times, said the word ‘vaccines’ countless times, and did not say the word ‘obesity’ or ‘diabetes.’ “There is a problem right now because this is not zero-sum. We are focused on a very small subset that’s important—we need good infectious disease management. Bobby Kennedy, Dr. Offit, is not correct. Bobby Kennedy has said one thing about vaccines and one thing only: that they should be studied like any other product. “Dr. Offit, on the ACIP committee, has recommended vaccines that have ended up being recalled for causing mass issues to kids. Bobby Kennedy has written multiple books, not about being anti-vax, but about having good science. And Dr. Offit is calling him anti-vaccine for literally just saying we need studies. “Bobby Kennedy is not concerned with measles. He wants good policies with measles. He wants to attack the 92% of deaths in the United States, which is chronic conditions,” Means said.

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Why is everyone so focused on measles when so many other health issues plague our country? The media breathlessly covers five measles cases while ignoring the obesity epidemic affecting 50% of teens. Sixteen percent of COVID deaths worldwide were Americans, but our health priorities seem misdirected. The focus on measles is overshadowing other critical health concerns. Bobby Kennedy's stance isn't anti-vaccine; he simply advocates for rigorous studies on vaccines, like any other product. He, and others, are concerned with the chronic conditions responsible for 92% of deaths in the United States, and want to address the bigger picture of health policy.
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Speaker 0: Is it now a time to promote vaccines, which again, the CDC says safe effective that two doses are ninety percent effective against measles? Is it now a time to promote that especially among children who are being impacted by measles in places like Texas and in these states who are unvaccinated according to health officials. Speaker 1: Pamela, with with respect, why aren't you asking me about the fact that fifty percent of teens have obesity? Why aren't there there there are breathless Speaker 0: I have other questions for you, but we're talking about this. Speaker 1: Day after day after day, Pamela. It's breathless coverage of five measles cases. Why aren't we asking why sixteen percent of COVID deaths worldwide were Americans when we're only four percent of the world population because the CDC said, Our immune system, no, it is related, Pamela, and let me say why. Because the entire coverage of Bobby Kennedy is around measles. The Democrats said the word measles twenty five times in the first hearing and said the words obesity, diabetes, and chronic disease zero time. The HHS priority document under President Biden said the word equity 25 times, said the word vaccines countless times, did not say the word obesity or diabetes. There is a problem right now because this is not zero, this is zero sum. We are focused on a very small subset that's important. We need good infectious disease management. Bobby Kennedy, Doctor. Offit is not correct. Bobby Kennedy has said one thing about vaccines and one thing only, that they should be studied like any other product. Doctor. Offit on the ACIP committee has recommended vaccines that have ended up being recalled for causing mass issues to kids. Bobby Kennedy has written multiple books not about being anti vaxx but about having good science. And Doctor. Offit is calling him anti vaccine for literally just saying we need studies. Bobby Kennedy is not concerned with measles. He wants good policies with measles. He wants to attack the ninety two percent of deaths in The United States, which has chronic conditions.

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Means continued to hammer the medical industry, exposing how it “doesn’t make money when children are healthy.” “Pharma doesn’t make money when children are healthy. The hospitals don’t make money when the beds are empty. Chronic disease, just as a demonstrable statement of economic fact, is a great economic invention for the healthcare industry, which demonstrably makes money when patients are sick,” Means said. Visibly frustrated as @CalleyMeans dismantled the narrative CNN wanted to push, Pamela Brown began frantically cutting him off before abruptly ending the segment, calling it a “spirited discussion.”

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I support discussing issues like obesity and overmedicating children. Bobby Kennedy is fighting against the incentive for pharma to profit from sick children, and he's supporting efforts to remove soda from SNAP. The problem is that organizations like Merck don't have children's best interests at heart, considering their history of criminal penalties for misleading information. When the data isn't on their side, RFK Jr. and personal injury lawyers attack the person. My Merck chair is defined by Penn, and there's no quid pro quo. The science continually proves RFK Jr. wrong about vaccines.
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Speaker 0: He talked about childhood vaccines, number one. He talked about electromagnetic radiation, number two. He talked about pesticides. He didn't talk about the things that Cali's talking about here, which is things like obesity or overmedicating children or sugar drapes. I'm all for that. I agree with you. You can have both Speaker 1: powerful he gave a he gave a powerful speech about these issues. This this is what Bobby Kinney is fighting against, doctor Offit. As you know, you were the chair at the Children's Hospital, the Merck chair. You you it was like a NASCAR driver wearing their sponsors. Merck paid your $1,500,000 salary. And this is what Bobby is saying, is that fundamentally, pharma can create good innovations, but they're foundationally incentivized for children to be sick. Pharma doesn't make money when children are healthy. The hospitals don't make money when the beds are empty. Chronic disease, just as a demonstrable statement of economic fact, is a great economic invention for the health industry which demonstrably makes money when patients are sick. And that's an incentive Bobby Kennedy is going hard after. I'm in Florida. I'm in I'm in a state senator's office right now. I'm actually lobbying for the state's SNAP bills, which Bobby is really supporting, to get soda off of SNAP. I think the problem is that the public health community, the Merck chairs of pediatricians, I mean, that is just insane. Merck does not have children's interest at heart. Merck itself has settled billions of dollars in criminal penalties for misleading and to know. Speaker 2: For transparency, you used to be a pharmaceutical rep. Right, Cali? Speaker 1: No. No. No. I was there about thirteen years ago with a was a was a lobbyist, which which included Speaker 2: So you were a lobbyist for pharmaceuticals. Okay. Speaker 1: That out. Speaker 2: Right. But really quick, we we do have to go. But doctor Offit, I have to have you respond to his claims about Merck and your ties. Speaker 0: Sure. What he does is what RFK Jr. Does, which is what all personal injury lawyer types do, which is when the the data aren't on their side, then they attack the person. I'm not Bobby Kennedy's ears. Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on, Callie. Let him talk. Chair? Callie, please. Please. Speaker 0: I I wanna I don't receive a a okay. It's it's it's I do not have a conflict of interest. The Merc chair is is defined defined by, Penn. And Penn, there is no quid pro quo to being having an endowed chair. Anybody who receives an endowed chair an endowed chair would know. Secondly, it's like because they they there aren't the data on their side regarding vaccines. They do what all personal injury lawyer types do, which is attack the witness. I'm not RFK Jr's problem. The science that has continually shown he's wrong about vaccines Speaker 1: for sure. Millions of people. That. That's Speaker 2: the problem. Thank you both for coming on. Thank you for Speaker 0: coming again. Of Speaker 2: Okay. Callie, I let you say your piece, doctor Offit. I let you also respond, and I I appreciate you coming on for this spirited discussion, shall we say? Thank you for joining us. We'll be right back.

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This debate made one thing clear: when mainstream news networks face someone who can challenge their narratives in real time, their arguments crumble, leaving viewers exposed to the truth. While it’s safe to say that @CalleyMeans won’t be invited back on CNN anytime soon, this segment should serve as a stark reminder that the media’s goal is to push narratives, not to report the truth or host an honest debate.

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Video Transcript AI Summary
I defend public health leaders and question why cuts are bad for health at HHS. Distrust stems from conflicts of interest, like Dr. Offit taking money from pharmaceutical companies while recommending drugs. He claims science is settled, yet approved vaccines have been recalled. I want focus on real issues: 38% of children having prediabetes. Measles deaths were high before vaccines, but chronic conditions are a bigger threat now. RFK Jr. isn't anti-vaccine but wants vaccine studies. I question why media covers measles over obesity and diabetes. Sixteen percent of COVID deaths were American, but the CDC didn't discuss metabolic links. I support measures like removing soda from SNAP, aiming for better health policies. Pharma profits from sick children, incentivizing chronic disease.
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Speaker 0: Trust in public health? No. It it it's the public health leaders themselves. It's people defending with the record that's happening to health at HHS why cuts are bad. Of course, we should make cuts. Of course, the personnel should be changed. What's causing distrust in public health authorities is conflict of interest, like doctor Offutt taking millions of dollars from pharmaceutical makers like Merck while approving and recommending pharmaceuticals on ACIP committees. It's the fact that doctor Offutt's saying that science is always settled, when he himself has approved vaccines that have been recalled for causing organ failure for kids. And it's the fact that doctor Offit is talking about measles, which is important. And I wanna be clear, Hamlet. I don't wanna get this out. It's important. But there were three hundred deaths from measles a year before the invention of the vaccine. We have thirty eight percent of children now having prediabetes. Bobby is focused on that. He's focused on reorganizing the department. Mhmm. And that's what we should be talking about, not this distraction. Speaker 1: And I'm gonna come back to you on that central question about the measles and and the bird flu and whether cuts right now are are makes sense. But I want you, doctor Offit, obviously, he made a lot of claims there. I want you to respond to that. And we should note, you are a member of the FDA vaccine advisory committee, and you recently told CNN that RFK Jr will hurt America's vaccine infrastructure. So please respond to that and tell us Speaker 0: And, Pamela, I hope we can disclose his I hope we can disclose his millions of dollars of pharmaceutical payments while serving in that committee. Speaker 1: Okay. Doctor Offit, please go ahead and respond. Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you're not allowed to serve on the FDA's vaccine advisory committee if you have a relationship with a pharmaceutical company. And so because I don't have a relationship with a pharmaceutical company, I'm able to serve on that committee. Secondly, and most importantly, actually, the things that that, that Cali talks about, I actually agree with in some ways. I think that we are, for example, more obese as a country than than we should be. And that the consequence of obesity like hypertension or type two diabetes, I think we do have, in many ways, more chronic illnesses. I think we overmedicate our children. I think there's many things we can do better. I actually wrote a book called Overkill When Modern Medicine Goes Too Far. So I agree with all that. What I don't agree with is that in any way, vaccines are are, harmful as RFK Jr. Says. I mean, RFK Jr. Continues to claim that vaccines cause autism when they don't. He's now made childhood vaccines a major target of this. And and that's that's, only to be the detriment of children. Speaker 1: Hold on. No. No. Callie Callie, I have to let doctor Offit speak. This has to be a civil respectful conversation in order for this to work and for Americans, viewers to to soak this up. So I wanna let doctor Offit finish, and then I'll go to you, Cali. I promise. Go ahead, doctor Offit. Speaker 2: So I I think that when, for example, he says we have more chronic diseases in children than ever before, he says that the incidence is one in thirty six. Well, that's the incidence of autism spectrum disorder. There's a lot of interesting, cause or causes of autism spectrum disorder, like the infant microbiome or genetic or medicines that women or pregnant people can take during their pregnancy. That's interesting. But by focusing on childhood vaccines, he's focusing on the one thing that doesn't cause autism. And so vaccines, I think, are really the safest, best tested things that we give to children, and that's what may is making America healthy again. And I think to focus on vaccines as as a target and and claim that they're causing harms when they're not is only a detriment to America's children. Speaker 0: And just Speaker 1: to be clear, these are two separate issue. There's vaccines which are proven safe and effective, and we're gonna talk more about that. But then there's the issue of chronic disease caused by, you know, the food that we're consuming, processed food and all of that, which as you both agree on, that needs to be dealt with, that needs to be a a priority, of course, which is why in many ways RFK Jr has gained so much popularity among many Americans, on that issue. But but I wanna go to you, Callie, to respond. And, also, you know, with this measles threat, is it now a time to promote vaccines, which, again, the CDC says safe effective that two doses are ninety percent effective against measles? Is it now a time to promote that, especially among children who are being impacted by measles in places like Texas and in these six states who are unvaccinated according to health officials? Speaker 0: Pamela, with with respect, why aren't you asking me about the fact that fifty percent of teens have obesity? Why aren't Speaker 1: there there there are questions for you, but we're talking about this. Speaker 0: Day after day after day, Pamela, it's breathless it's breathless coverage of of of of five measles cases. We why aren't we asking why sixteen percent of COVID deaths worldwide were Americans when we're only four percent of the world population because the CDC said our immune system. No. It is related, Pamela, and let me say why. Because the entire coverage of Bobby Kennedy is around measles. The Democrat said the word measles twenty five times in the first hearing and said the words obesity, diabetes, and chronic disease zero time. The HHS priority document under president Biden said the word equity 25 times, said the word vaccines countless times, did not say the word obesity or diabetes. There is a problem right now because this is not zero, this is zero sum. We are focused on a very small subset that's important. We need good infectious disease management. Bobby Kennedy, Doctor. Offit is not correct. Bobby Kennedy has said one thing about vaccines and one thing only, that they should be studied like any other product. Doctor Offit on the ACEF committee has recommended vaccines that have ended up being recalled for causing mass issues to kids. Bobby Kennedy has written multiple books not about being anti vaxxed, but about having good science. And doctor Offutt is calling him anti vaccine for literally just saying we need studies. Bobby Kennedy is not concerned with measles. He wants good policies with measles. He wants to attack the ninety two percent of deaths in The United States, which is chronic conditions. Speaker 1: I I think it is fair to say given his history in his past remarks though that he is, at the very least, a vaccine skeptic. Alright? A vaccine skeptic is is fair to say. I think he's a science Speaker 0: pro science advocate. Speaker 1: Okay. And and again, doctor Offit, I want you to respond to some of those claims. And, Callie, look, we can we can talk about all of this, and I do wanna talk about obesity. So don't make a claim that I'm not asking about important things because I've covered that on this show. I've covered the movement about what Kellogg's what they're trying to do with Kellogg's and trying to take food coloring out of Kellogg's. I've actually been on the forefront of covering a lot of these issues, so please don't make that claim I'm not asking the right questions. Speaker 0: Worry. I will I will say during COVID, CNN covered this as a pharmaceutical deficiency and did not talk about the metabolic links to COVID and how this really was a warning sign for our immune system. I agree, Pamela. You have covered this issue more than most. But Okay. There is a massive slant talking about measles rather than chronic conditions. Speaker 1: Okay. And that's your and that's your your point of view, and you're you're entitled to that. And on this show, we try to share all kinds of points of view and and different ways of looking at things. Thank you. So I wanna go to this 2016 USDA report that shows sugary beverages are the second most purchased items by households that receive SNAP benefits, while desserts are the fifth most purchased. Senator Mike Lee has introduced the Healthy SNAP Act, which would exclude these items from SNAP. Doctor, do you think that that's important, a bill like this? Are you in favor of that? Speaker 2: Sure. I I mean, I think that it it's certainly true that we we can have better health. I think, you know, that we we do have an increased instance of obesity. I think that things like I think we overmedicate our children in many ways. I think that people are reasonably dissatisfied with the health care system. I think we don't get great bang for our buck with with what we spend per capita. I think we compared to other developed world countries, we don't have the same, length of, say, like, length of, like, longevity or infant mortality rates don't compare favorably. Sure. That's all true. And I think you can have that and also say how important vaccines are. What worries me about our FK Jr, which is why I think he shouldn't be ahead of HHS, is he has been a virulent anti vaccine activist for the last twenty years. And and when he stands in front of of the the HHS, a couple days ago, what did he talk about? He talked about childhood vaccines, number one. He talked about electromagnetic radiation, number two. He talked about pesticides. He didn't talk about the things that Cali's talking about here, which is things like obesity or over medicating children or sugar drape. I'm all for that. I agree with you. You can have both. Speaker 0: Powerful he gave a he gave a powerful speech about these issues. This this is what Bobby Kinney's fighting against, doctor Oph. As you know, you were the chair at the Children's Hospital, the Merck chair. You you it was like a NASCAR driver wearing their sponsors. Merck paid your $1,500,000 salary. And this is what Bobby is saying, is that fundamentally, pharma can create good innovations, but they're foundationally incentivized for children to be sick. Pharma doesn't make money when children are healthy. The hospitals don't make money when the beds are empty. Chronic disease, just as a demonstrable statement of economic fact, is a great economic invention for the health industry, which demonstrably makes money when patients are sick, and that's an incentive Bobby Kennedy is going hard after. I'm in Florida. I'm in I'm in a state senator's office right now. I'm actually lobbying for the state's SNAP bills, which Bobby is really supporting, to get soda off of Snap. I think the problem is that the public health community, the Merck shares of pediatricians, I mean, that is just insane. Merck does not have children's interest at heart. Merck itself has settled billions of dollars in criminal penalties for misleading and falsifying data in the past ten years. Like like, what Speaker 1: do you mean by that? For for transparency, you used to be a pharmaceutical rep. Right, Cali? Speaker 0: No. No. No. I was about thirteen years ago with the was a was a lobbyist, which included So Speaker 1: you were a lobbyist for pharmaceuticals. Speaker 0: Okay. That out. Speaker 1: Right. But really quick, we we do have to go. But doctor Offit, I have to have you respond to his claims about Merck and your ties. Speaker 2: Sure. What he does is what RFK Jr. Does, which is what all personal injury lawyer types do, which is when the the data aren't on their side, then they attack the person. I'm not driving any chairs. Speaker 1: Hold on. Hold on, Callie. Let him Speaker 0: talk. Chair? Speaker 1: Callie, please. Please. Speaker 2: I I wanna I don't receive a a okay. It's it's it's I do not have a conflict of interest. The Merck chair is is defined defined by, Penn. And Penn, there is no quid pro quo to being having an endowed chair. Is anybody who receives an endowed chair an endowed chair would know. Secondly, it's like because they they there aren't the data on their side regarding vaccines. They do what all personal injury lawyer types do, which is attack the witness. I'm not RFK Jr's problem. The science that has continually shown me is wrong about vaccines for sure. Speaker 0: To speak to me about that. Okay. Alright. Speaker 1: Thank you both for coming on. Again, okay, Cali. I let you say your piece, doctor Offit. I let you also respond, and I I appreciate you coming on for this spirited discussion, shall we say? Thank you for joining us. We'll be right back. Speaker 2: Our thoughts and prayers are with those who is

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In 2008, CBS aired a report by Sharyl Attkisson revealing that leading vaccine advocates were funded by pharmaceutical companies, highlighting potential conflicts of interest in vaccine safety claims. I wonder if mainstream media would dare to air something like that today.

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In 2008, CBS actually aired a report by Sharyl Attkisson exposing how top vaccine advocates received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies—raising serious concerns about conflicts of interest in vaccine safety claims. Can you imagine the MSM airing such a report today? 🤣 Credit: @SharylAttkisson

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The American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child by Two, and pediatrician Dr. Paul Offit are trusted voices in vaccine defense, but CBS News found they have financial ties to the vaccine industry. The vaccine industry gives millions to the Academy of Pediatrics for various purposes, but the totals are kept secret. Wyeth gave the Academy $342,000 for a community grant program, and Merck contributed $433,000 the same year the Academy endorsed Merck's HPV vaccine. Sanofi Aventis, a maker of 17 vaccines, is also a top donor. Every Child by Two admits to taking money from the vaccine industry, but wouldn't disclose the amount. An official from Wyeth and a paid adviser to big pharmaceutical clients have been listed as the group's treasurers. Dr. Offit holds a $1.5 million research chair funded by Merck and holds the patent on an anti-diarrhea vaccine he developed with Merck. Future royalties for the vaccine were sold for $182 million. The American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child by Two and Doctor. Offit wouldn't agree to interviews, but all told CBS they're upfront about the money they receive and it doesn't sway their opinions.
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Speaker 0: For years now, parents have wondered if vaccines are linked to conditions like autism and ADD. Government officials and some scientists say there is no connection, and they're often backed by independent experts. But just how independent are they? You may be surprised at what Cheryl Atkinson found when she set out to follow the money. Speaker 1: Just waiting for it to come. They're some of the most trusted voices in the defense of vaccine the American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child by Two, and pediatrician Doctor. Paul Offit. But CBS News has found these three have something more in common. Polio number two Strong financial ties to the industry whose products they promote and defend. The vaccine industry gives millions to the Academy of Pediatrics for conferences, grants, medical education classes, even help pay to build their headquarters. The totals are kept secret, but public documents reveal bits and pieces. Dollars 3 and 42,000 was given to the Academy by Wyeth, maker of the pneumococcal vaccine, for a community grant program. Dollars 4 and 33,000 was contributed to the Academy by Merck, the same year the Academy endorsed Merck's HPV vaccine. Another top donor, Sanofi Aventis, maker of 17 vaccines, and a new five and one combo shot just added to the childhood vaccine schedule last month. Every Child by Two, a group that promotes early immunization for all children, admits the group takes money from the vaccine industry too, but wouldn't tell us how much. A spokesman told us there are simply no conflicts to be unearthed. But guess who has been listed as the group's treasurers, an official from Wyeth and a paid adviser to big pharmaceutical clients. Then there's doctor Paul Offit, perhaps the most widely quoted defender of vaccine safety. He's gone so far as to say babies can tolerate quote 10,000 vaccines at once. This is how Offit described himself in a previous interview. Speaker 2: I'm the chief of infectious diseases at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and a professor of pediatrics at Penns Medical School. Speaker 1: Doctor Offit was not willing to be interviewed on this subject. But like others in our investigation, he has strong industry ties. In fact, he's a vaccine industry insider. Doctor. Offit holds a $1,500,000 research chair CHH funded by Merck. He holds the patent on an anti diarrhea vaccine he developed with Merck, Rotatec, which has prevented thousands of hospitalizations in The U. S. And future royalties for the vaccine were just sold for $182,000,000 cash. Doctor Offit's share of vaccine profits unknown. There's nothing illegal about the possible conflicts of interest, but as one member of Congress put it, Money from the pharmaceutical industry can shape the practices of those who hold themselves out to be independent. The American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child by Two and Doctor. Offit wouldn't agree to interviews, but all told us they're upfront about the money they receive and it doesn't sway their opinions. Today's immunization schedule now calls for kids to get 55 doses of vaccines by age six. Ideally, it makes for a healthier society. But critics worry that industry ties could impact the advice given to the public about all those vaccines.
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@annaemcloughlin - Anna McLoughlin

Helen Petousis-Harris - received seed funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation - was paid by Pfizer to speak at events - was funded by Pfizer to do a research review on misinformation -received US$10mill from HHS to analyse adverse events to the jabs https://t.co/N4YvZ9PesK

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I read two posts arguing flu vaccines may lack convincing evidence to reduce death, hospitalizations, serious complications, or transmission, and that vaccinated individuals may have higher non-influenza respiratory infections; it urges personal choice and notes vaccine injury support. The second post clarifies Gates-affiliated funding isn’t control, and praises a researcher for publishing findings that challenge public-health claims.

@AaronSiriSG - Aaron Siri

For anyone contemplating getting an influenza vaccine (flu shot) or planning to pressure or mandate someone else to get one: A meta-analysis of existing flu shot studies of healthy children by Cochrane (effectively owned by vaccine zealot Bill Gates) concluded that despite decades of published studies, it “could find no convincing evidence that [flu] vaccines can reduce mortality, hospital admissions, serious complications, or community transmission of influenza.” [1] Read that carefully: no convincing evidence—none—that flu shots lowered the chances of dying, being admitted to the hospital, suffering serious complications from the flu, or transmitting flu to others. In fact, studies have found those vaccinated for flu have a statistically significant increased rate of respiratory illnesses. Meaning, it increases the risk of having other respiratory illnesses. For example, a placebo-controlled efficacy (not safety) study by researchers at the University of Hong Kong compared children receiving influenza vaccine with those who did not receive the vaccine. The study found no statistical difference in the rate of influenza between the groups but did find the vaccinated had a four times increased rate of non-influenza infections (“recipients had an increased risk of virologically confirmed non-influenza infections (relative risk: 4.40; 95% confidence interval: 1.31-14.8)”). [2] As another example, researchers at Columbia University found that the risk of “influenza in individuals during the 14-day post-vaccination period was similar to unvaccinated individuals during the same period (HR 0.96, 95% CI [0.60, 1.52])” but that the risk of “non-influenza respiratory pathogens was higher [in the vaccinated individuals] during the same period (HR 1.65, 95% CI [1.14, 2.38]).” [3] A study by the Cleveland Clinic of 53,402 of its employees across multiple states even found an increased risk of influenza among those vaccinated for influenza, explaining that the “cumulative incidence of influenza was similar for the vaccinated and unvaccinated states early, but over the course of the study the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.” [4] I discuss these and other studies in my book, Vaccines, Amen. [5] That said: get a flu shot, don’t get a fu shot. That’s freedom. Everyone should be free to choose. But nobody should be coerced to get this or any medical product, especially, ironically, when the data reflects it has a net overall increase in infections. If you do choose to get this product and are injured, you are always free to call our firm to represent you in the vaccine injury compensation program. [6] Sources: [1]https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD004879.pub5/epdf/full [2]https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3404712/pdf/cis307.pdf [3]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29525279/ [4]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.30.25321421v3.full.pdf [5] https://a.co/d/0DwP3Ux [6]https://www.sirillp.com/vaccine-injury-attorneys/

Assessment of temporally-related acute respiratory illness following influenza vaccination - PubMed Among children there was an increase in the hazard of ARI caused by non-influenza respiratory pathogens post-influenza vaccination compared to unvaccinated children during the same period. Potential mechanisms for this association warrant further investigation. Future research could investigate whet … pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Note: Bill Gates does not own the Cochrane Collaboration, rather his affiliated organizations have provided funding, direct and indirect, to the Cochrane Collaboration. There is also no indication the lead author in the review cited above has received any direct funding from the Gates foundation and he has affirmed as much in writing. It no doubt took courage and conviction to follow and publish the evidence when it revealed findings regarding the influenza vaccine in healthy children that is contrary to what public health authorities often claim about this product. He and his colleagues deserve credit for publishing this review knowing it would result in headwinds from those whose beliefs about this product it offends and whose financial interests it impacts.

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@EduEngineer - Mathew Crawford

It is time to begin documenting a #Plandemonium #GameOfThreads. https://t.co/GdRQDB5XPU

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