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Saved - October 8, 2023 at 12:05 AM
reSee.it AI Summary
The conflict between Israel and Palestine is deeply rooted and complex. However, it is important to approach the topic with empathy and respect for all parties involved. The focus should be on finding a peaceful resolution rather than promoting violence or hatred. The goal should be to foster understanding and coexistence, acknowledging the rights and aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians.

@LauraLoomer - Laura Loomer

There is no such thing as Palestine. It’s always been a figment of the imagination of Islamic terrorists and Jew haters. Israel belongs to the Jews . For the sake of humanity and what is righteous and good in the war on evil, Israel must level GAZA, flatten it into a parking lot, and then glass it. The one state solution doesn’t include a world or a scenario where Israelis can coexist with HAMAS ANIMALS and their sympathizers. They must be shown through IDF force that they don’t exist, and their pretend homeland doesn’t exist. We will not recognize these animals and the entire world must unite in rejecting them and denying them any sense of dignity. There is no reasoning with Islamic terrorists. Every single HAMAS terrorist and terror sympathizer must be killed by the @IDF. IDF can give 24 hours to women and children so they can evacuate, but then GAZA must be destroyed. Palestinian terror must be driven from this planet. There’s a reason why no other Islamic country in the Middle East wants the Palestinians in their country. Their entire existence revolves around hating and killing Jews. There is no peace with these people. We can’t coexist with Barbarians who teach their children to kill Jews from the time they are born. There will never be peace in the Middle East. But there is life, and Israel has a right to protect that life.

Saved - December 10, 2023 at 3:17 PM

@MarkBlum - Mark David Blum, Esq.

The case for peace is over. Now, it is time to make sure there is no more threat to Israel; even if it means killing every gaza resident. https://t.co/PjmwQoJCDK

Saved - October 13, 2023 at 9:55 AM
reSee.it AI Summary
Arab countries have not offered refuge to Gaza Palestinians, nor have they criticized Egypt for closing the main passageway. Qatar, with its Hamas Nazi leadership, has not asked any Arab country to take in Gaza Palestinians or urged Egypt to allow their exit. The Arab world's lack of assistance contrasts with the international community's potential support. Surprisingly, American and European media fail to address these issues. As Israel engages in urban warfare against Hamas, the media focuses on casualty numbers and calls for proportionate response, while Blinken lectures Israel on rules of war, despite terrorists being exempt.

@marklevinshow - Mark R. Levin

It's noteworthy that not a single Arab country has offered to accept Gaza Palestinians. Not one. And they are silent about Egypt keeping closed the main passageway for the Gaza Palestinians to leave Gaza, because Egypt doesn't want Gaza Palestinians coming into their country. Want more? Hamas Nazi leadership in Qatar has not asked Qatar, or any Arab country, take any Gaza Palestinians. Nor have Qatar or the Hamas Nazi leadership asked Egypt to stop blocking Gaza Palestinians from leaving Gaza. Of course, the Egyptians could house hundreds of thousands of Gaza Palestinians in the Sinai Peninsula. And no doubt the international community would assist with temporary housing, food, etc. But this would mean that the Arab world actually wants to help Gaza Palestinians rather than use their propaganda machine to attempt to turn Israelis into oppressors. It's also noteworthy that the American and European media don't ask the Biden regime or the other leaders of countries around the world about any of this; they don't even report it. Yet, because the Arabs will not provide refuge to the Gaza Palestinians, and because the Qatar-funded and Iran-funded Hamas wages war against Israel, and Israel must now lose Lord knows how many soldiers in urban warfare in Gaza, the media will report numbers, Israel will be told its response to the Hamas Nazis should be "proportionate," and Blinken will continue to lecture Israel about rules of war when fighting terrorists who -- by the way -- are an exception to rules of war.

Saved - October 17, 2023 at 5:03 PM
reSee.it AI Summary
Israel's response to Gaza should not be criticized. In 2005, Israel handed Gaza over, but instead of peace, Hamas elected to attack Israel. Demanding Israel provide water and electricity to an enemy using those resources to create rockets is unreasonable. Palestinians have a border with Egypt, who should take them in if they care. A proportionate response to attacks is difficult to define. Palestinians elected Hamas and their silence speaks volumes. Innocent people die in wars, but that doesn't justify the war. Comparisons to Nazis are invalid. Israel has the right and moral obligation to eliminate Hamas for a safer world. Hamas seeks to destroy Israel, as evident in their charters. Palestinians rejected peace offers and their agenda is genocidal. Supporting them is antisemitic.

@HilzFuld - Hillel Fuld

Let me say this in the clearest possible terms. If you’re concerned with Israel’s response, if you’re focused on the people of Gaza right now, you’re either ignorant or intentionally hypocritical. 2005: Israel handed Gaza over on a silver platter. No “occupation”, no Israeli presence, nothing. 100% theirs. If they wanted anything other than dead Jews, they had the chance. In what world is it normal to demand a country provide water and electricity to its enemy when there is clear evidence that they are using those water pipes to create rockets that then kill Israelis? You’re worried about the electricity and water in Gaza? You can provide it. Don’t want to? Then keep your mouth shut. They have nowhere to go those poor Palestinians? Why don’t you go look at a map? They have a border with Egypt. Let them take them in if they care so much. Oh, Egypt doesn’t want them? Did you hear that? That was my heart breaking for them. Egypt can take them. They don’t want them? Not my problem. You’re worried about a disproportionate response by Israel? Kindly tell me what a proportionate response would look like. Because if we did what they did to us, that would require the murder, abduction, and rape of over a thousand people. Is that what you’re recommending Israel does? Because that’s pretty sick of you. And once and for all, we need to unequivocally reject the false narrative of “They’re not all Hamas supporters so Israel has no right to attack Gaza.” A- The Palestinian people elected Hamas. Make up your mind. If they’re a people who you believe deserve a state then it’s time you held them accountable as a people. They elected Hamas. They will pay for that tragic decision. B- The Palestinian people, not 100, 1,000, or 10,000 of them, give out candies when innocent Jews are murdered. Have you seen thousands of Palestinians speaking out against Hamas? I haven’t. Where are they? Their silence is all I need to know. C- In every war in the history of the world, innocent people die. That fact, as sad as it might be, has zero relevance to whether the war is justified or not. Need I remind you how many innocent Germans died in WWII? Israel is fighting Nazis now. Zero difference. In war, innocent people die. D- And finally, don’t come at me with the whole “They can’t speak out. Hamas will kill them.” Where have we heard that before? “I was just fulfilling orders. I had no choice.” Oh yes, that was what the Nazis said. It was not a legit argument then and it’s not a legit argument now. What Israel experienced on October 7th was the equivalent of 9/11 times 50. Israel WILL retaliate accordingly and it will not stop no matter how much you throw your double standard at us. We not only have every right to do whatever we can to obliterate Hamas, we have a moral obligation to do so. You might not know this now, but a world without Hamas is a safer world for you and your children. If you didn’t complain when ISIS was defeated, if you think WWII was justified in order to defeat the Nazis, then you can either stand with Israel while we cleanse the world of Hamas savages or you can go ahead and keep your mouth shut while we do the work from which you will benefit. If you have any integrity at all, go read the charters of Hamas and the PLO. If you’re honest, ask yourself what “From the river to the sea” means. Look at a map if you can’t figure it out. It means no Israel. Do you support that? Throwing all Israelis into the sea? Because that’s what that means. If you are still delusional enough to think they want a state, go Google The Partition Plan. They had one. They rejected it. Then google how many times Israel offered them a state. And if, after all that, you still think the Palestinian’s agenda is anything other than total genocide of the Jewish people, congratulations, you have earned the privilege of being named a flaming antisemite who supports murder and rape. I’m sure your mother is proud.

Saved - October 16, 2023 at 11:34 PM

@jess_ih_ka - Iscah 𓂆 יסכה 🇮🇱

WOW The entire conflict in a nutshell– from a SAUDI. There's a reason Arab nations won't take even 1 single Gazan into their land. Every sentence he says is better than the last. Brutal honesty #Israel #Gaza

Saved - October 16, 2023 at 7:46 PM
reSee.it AI Summary
The destructive idea that governments can act like monsters after a tragedy is prevalent. This applies to the US after 9/11 and now to Israel. The belief that a nation can engage in genocide as a response is absurd. Normal people are not exempt from consequences, but governments are. Israel's bombing campaign in Gaza has caused more deaths than the initial attack, with no opposition. The Western public is also swayed by propaganda. We must reject this and seek rational solutions through negotiations, diplomacy, and acknowledging the root causes. Peace is difficult but crucial.

@caitoz - Caitlin Johnstone

One of the most destructive ideas in modern times is this notion that it’s fine and appropriate for governments to act like monsters whenever anything bad happens to their country. We saw it happen with the United States after 9/11, and we’re seeing it now with Israel. Dropping military explosives on children is just as wrong now as it was on October 6th. Wars of aggression were just as wrong on September 12th 2001 as they were on September 10th. But there’s this idiotic belief in mainstream culture that a nation experiencing a traumatic event means it gets to go on a murderous rampage until it feels better. As soon as the Hamas attack occurred we were inundated with messaging from the western political/media class which conveyed the idea that because something bad happened to Israel, Israel now gets to do a little genocide, as a treat. This is stupid nonsense, and should be rejected by all thinking people. No other aspect of human life works like this. A normal guy isn’t permitted to go on a shooting spree at his wife’s workplace just because she cheated on him with Kyle from marketing. He’s not even allowed to be mean to customers at work or he’ll get fired. The rules don’t stop applying to normal people just because something bad happened to them; only when we’re thinking about the giant power conglomerates known as governments is this sloppy thinking ever taken seriously. In fact, in other aspects of life we understand that after a traumatic event it’s actually important to protect our friends and loved ones from making bad decisions in the emotional heat of the moment. You wouldn’t let your sister get an ugly face tattoo after a nasty breakup. If you saw your friend stumbling around with his car keys in one hand and a bottle in the other after losing his job, you wouldn’t tell him you stand with him and support whatever it is he’s getting ready to do. You’d understand that people can make unwise decisions after something bad happens to them, and you’d do what you can to help steer them away from it. But when we extend our thinking out to the world’s deadliest military forces — precisely the things toward which we should be most careful about bad decision-making — all that goes out the window. All of a sudden “You’re either with us or against us” is framed as a perfectly sound and reasonable position to have on issues like multiple full-scale ground invasions, and if you don’t “Stand with Israel” while it bombs Gaza, Lebanon and Syria that means you’re an evil terrorist supporter who probably hates Jews. The death toll from Israel’s bombing campaign in Gaza has already more than doubled the death toll from the Hamas attack, and we can expect it to keep multiplying because there’s no meaningful opposition to the bloodshed. The United States, who as an indispensable backer of Israel could end all this with a word, has refused to draw a single red line on what Israel may or may not do if it wishes to retain US support — even its indiscriminate use of white phosphorus, which violates international humanitarian law. War crimes are being committed not just openly but announced in advance as Tel Aviv commits itself to the collective punishment of Palestinians with a complete siege of Gaza, and Israel’s allies have no objection to this. And it’s pretty bad in the general western public as well. Because of the frenetic propaganda campaign by the western press in the wake of the Hamas attack, a new CNN poll finds that half of Americans have been successfully convinced that because something bad happened to Israel, Israel is “fully justified” in raining hellfire on a giant concentration camp in which half the population are children. The moments after a scary and traumatizing event are the very moments we should be most vigilant against abuses by the nation affected by it. Instead we’re doing the exact opposite as a society and silently agreeing that certain nations get a hall pass on war crimes and mass murder whenever something bad happens to them. At the exact time when the light of wisdom needs to be shining at its very brightest, we’re allowing it to be flushed down the toilet. And now as anti-war voices like Trita Parsi, Branko Marcetic and Connor Echols have noted, we’re looking at a conflict that could easily escalate and expand to include other nations in the middle east and the US alliance. All because the world decided that we are now on a temporary holiday away from reason and compassion. This needs to stop. We need to be thinking rationally not just about the current violence but the factors which gave rise to it. That means taking a full accounting of the apartheid abuses which gave rise to Hamas and the Palestinian resistance, ending those abuses and righting the wrongs. It means negotiations. It means diplomacy. It means reparations. It means making concessions. It means sitting down and talking. It means acknowledging the problem so that it can be fixed. And all of this can be avoided for as long as Israel and its allies want to strut about huffing about how they have special license to kill Palestinians now because blah blah victim story. At this point in history, just as after 9/11, war looks so very, very easy and peace looks so very, very difficult. But it’s at these exact moments that we need to be pushing hardest for peace, because this is when it actually matters. This is where the rubber meets the road, folks. This is where the real work of creating a healthy world takes place.

Saved - October 17, 2023 at 1:13 PM

@EndWokeness - End Wokeness

It wasn’t just Hamas fighters. Mobs of ordinary civilians joined the lynching, kidnapping, and looting that day. No, we should absolutely not take a single refugee from Gaza. There are 59 Muslim-majority countries they can go to.

Saved - October 25, 2023 at 7:54 PM

@richimedhurst - Richard Medhurst

I know Israel want to hide this from you, but armed struggle, like Hamas engages in, is perfectly legal. The Geneva Convention is crystal clear. An occupying power (Israel) killing civilians, forcing transfers of populations (ethnic cleansing), and bombing hospitals, is not.

Saved - November 1, 2023 at 5:58 PM
reSee.it AI Summary
The conflict in Gaza is not just about the immediate violence. It is connected to larger geopolitical and economic factors. The new Silk Road, a trade route stretching from China to Syria, is seen as a rival by the US and Israel. They aim to control gas reserves and pipelines, cutting off Russian and Iranian gas to Europe. Israel's gas field, Leviathan, becomes crucial. The US and Israel have funded the war in Syria, gaining control over oil fields and ports. Now, Israel seeks to exploit gas reserves and establish an economic corridor. The ongoing violence in Gaza is part of a larger struggle for control and dominance in the region.

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

Thread No.7 This Thread is addressed to non-Arab Twitter users. I don't think people have any idea what's really happening in Gaza and why it is happening. So please give us some time to clarify things for you. https://t.co/ciCC2TBHR4

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

A few weeks ago, right before this war in Gaza ignites , Netanyahu goes to the United Nations General Assembly and he holds up this map and declares his plan for a new Middle East. https://t.co/BFxqRvBqfC

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

And people are going, what is this stupid line this guy's drawing with a red marker? it is an economic corridor that stretches all the way from India to the United Arab Emirates into Saudi Arabia, into Jordan, Israel, and then finally to the entire European continent. https://t.co/QZY9djTkcS

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

I mean, the US at this point, their influence starting to fade, seeing the relevance of the $ recede after they stole $300B from Russia you have all these spooks in Washington and Tel Aviv running around desperately trying to counter bricks and counter China's new Silk Road. https://t.co/yCOHAsW4e6

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

And this is their answer. This is a rival to the new Silk Road. Remember, the ancient Silk Road is the largest, most important trade route in human history. This thing is enormous. It stretches all the way from China to Syria to the Mediterranean Sea. https://t.co/ufpZgt6xsU

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

The Chinese know how important this thing is, and they want to revive it. It is the future of world economics, trade and politics. Within the span of a few weeks, iran and Iraq have signed a railway deal. https://t.co/EgFWyUTaCQ

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

So now you have a rail link for the new Silk Road. And President Assad of Syria N.B 📒(War criminal) , is now visiting China, the world's largest economy, and signing a strategic partnership. This is pivotal. https://t.co/eA9STvtLPD

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

So now the new Silk Road has rail access all the way to the Mediterranean Sea through Sirius port in Latakia. So not just land, but maritime trade. This is crucial. And as enormous and important as all of this is, this is just one aspect. (You still have the gas.) https://t.co/l4AY6qU8t7

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

How can we talk about the Middle East without talking about gas and oil? When the US instigated the Maidan coup in 2014, that wasn't just about NATO expansion and encirclement of Russia. https://t.co/vluiqIFycj

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

This was about surrounding, controlling and cutting off Russian gas to Europe. Russia is the country with the largest proven reserves of natural gas. Control Ukraine, and you control the pipelines that feed and supply Russian gas to Europe. https://t.co/pTyDSqWUtq

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

For decades, you've had US politicians, Republican and Democrat, every administration, openly saying on camera, we don't want NS. There will be we there will be no longer a NS too. We will bring an end to it. You want to have pipelines that don't go through Ukraine and Russia. https://t.co/NJR1jsqgXw

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

For years, we've tried to get the Europeans to be interested in different pipeline routes. It's time to do that. You want to depend more on the North American energy platform, the tremendous bounty of oil and gas that we're finding in North America. https://t.co/KRUyrHx1fr

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

Nord stream, one and two are blown up. I mean, this is without question the most egregious the largest terrorist attack on European infrastructure in modern history. There are only three countries on this planet that can pull this off. They are Russia, Britain and the US. https://t.co/9ZHkavW6Ku

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

let me tell you, it was not Russia. You combine that with the sanctioned packages from the European Union banning Russian oil and gas, I mean, talk about shooting yourself in the foot. https://t.co/AlLqJrpZPX

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

So now there's no more Russian gas coming into Europe. And just like that, the United States have achieved a long standing foreign policy objective. https://t.co/TWYlK0OM97

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

Now, the only other country with enormous gas reserves, the second largest in the world, is Iran. Iran signed the nuclear deal in 2015 and 2016. They're complying in every way imaginable. The IAEA at the UN cannot be happier. And then the United States https://t.co/Xzc1HyrEtp

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

And then the United States, the guys who orchestrated the whole deal, go back on their word and they rip it up, just like that and reimpose sanctions on Iran. So now Iran is barred from selling its oil and gas to Europe and others. https://t.co/3SBlAtrR6Q

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

So Russia and Iran, the two countries with the largest gas reserves, are out of the picture. Then Israel all of a sudden proposed themselves as a solution to the European Union's gas shortages. Take our trilateral energy, for example, that we closed in June with Egypt and Israel. https://t.co/Qn7yt3gIRP

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

In 2010, they conduct a geological survey and find this monstrous giant gas field in the Middle East. It's called the Leviathan, and it's in the Mediterranean Sea on the Levantine basin. That means it's right off the coast of Palestine , Lebanon and Syria. https://t.co/HzQyLUE4X3

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

Syria initially declines, offers over its gas reserves, and simultaneously refuses to lay pipes for a Qatari gas project. What a coincidence. Barely a year later, war breaks out in Syria. And who's funding it? Israel and the US are just some of the parties funding and running. https://t.co/FSETbjerTi

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

this war to overthrow the government in Damascus. Today, the United States control one third of Syria. They control all of Syria's oil fields. And Israel is bombing Syria's most vital port, Latakia, on a regular basis. https://t.co/eDRvMT5gAR

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

So they're cutting off all the oil revenue and destroying crippling any maritime activity, such as trade, such as gas exploration. Another major port on the Levantine coast is in Beirut, which mysteriously explodes in 2020. https://t.co/Bii3iL0MSS

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

And so Israel, proposing itself as a solution to Europe's gas shortages, shows up with an FPSO, this enormous gas extraction vessel, and tries sealing gas from Lebanon's Karish gas field. https://t.co/GbJ1OFSD0q

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

And this reignites a huge maritime border dispute. And Israel has to go and beg the United States to solve this diplomatically because Hazballah said, if you steal one cubic inch of our gas, we will fire our missiles on your ship. Now we come to Gaza. https://t.co/HVUmbXY2MK

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

Gaza is also a concentration camp run by the Israelis and it's been under siege , under naval blockade since 2007. I mean you can't even fish properly, let alone extract gas. And so now the Lebanese, the Syrian, thePalestinian ports, they're all out of action. https://t.co/wniUWIq6BH

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

And the only working port left in coast is the Israeli port on Haifa. I mean how convenient. This makes Israel the only one able to explore gas and implement an economic corridor like the one that Netanyahu held up at the UN. https://t.co/BtxR9aFrRR

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

So in other words, Israel and the United States together, killed off all the competition, stole their goods and cornered the market.

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

But as winter is approaching, israel desperately need to get that gas for Europe. But there's no stability, there can never be stability in the region without solving the Palestinian question. And so when Netanyahu shows up at the UN with his brilliant know, the Israelis thought https://t.co/blbYlgyt6a

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

oh, it's a done know, they'll just get Saudi Arabia to normalize ties and thereby extinguish the Palestinian issue once and for all. https://t.co/Simd18OCQj

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

And that is precisely why they are in Gaza, slaughtering Palestinians like crazy, like they're in berserker know, Israel has bombed Gaza before, but this surpasses anything we've ever seen which is truly saying something.

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

I mean this is know, calling people human animals and massacring them. Israel is just hoping the Palestinians will run away in fear into the desert. They've literally said this, they want to put them in the desert. https://t.co/8KrfexrOKU

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

They want people in Gaza to go to the Sinai Desert and push the people in the West Bank into Jordan. This is genocide and ethnic cleansing without question. https://t.co/WZMvKLGUbv

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

But it also has economic and geopolitical implications. Hamas and the collective resistance when they found out about Israel's plan and Saudi Arabia's wishes to normalize ties with Israel, which would destroy any hope of a Palestinian state, I mean this forced their hand. https://t.co/032udh0oAN

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

It became clear they needed to act and respond immediately, lest Palestine be lost forever. https://t.co/2LevmZOJ3v

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

For Palestinians, this is and always has been a matter of life and death. To be or not to be. Either the resistance axis and the global south expel the American and Israeli colonizers from the Middle East, or Israel and the United States will continue occupying the region, https://t.co/3wkzRLVHn0

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

choking off the new Silk Road, plundering Syria's oil and keeping Russian, Iranian and Arab gas cut off from the world market. This is a decisive moment, and not just for Palestine, because the victors will end up drawing the new map of the world to come. https://t.co/PGz7ty3dCE

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

All rights reserved and all effort is attributed to the creator of the original content Richard Medhurst.

@MoatAwesome_ - المعتصم بالله 𓋔

Thread No.7 Done . Free palestine. Free palestine. Free palestine. https://t.co/yKQBtT3KLm

Saved - October 31, 2023 at 2:33 AM
reSee.it AI Summary
The Israeli government's policies have led to the rise of Hamas, a faction favoring violent resistance. Palestinians have been cut off from peaceful avenues of resolution, as illustrated by Israeli soldiers firing on protesters. The blame lies with an abusive apartheid state that keeps millions in a concentration camp, not with Hamas. The disease is an apartheid settler-colonialist project reliant on endless violence.

@caitoz - Caitlin Johnstone

I find nothing less morally or philosophically interesting than pontificating on how the traumatized prisoners of a horrible concentration camp should have conducted themselves once they broke free of its confines. As far as I'm concerned everything that happened on that day was the result of generations of Israeli abuse, the British decisions which made it all possible, and the American backing which has kept it going. Israeli policies created Hamas. I don’t mean this in the usual “Netanyahu boosted Hamas to sabotage peace and undermine its more moderate rivals” sense, I mean it in the "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" sense. If you stomp out every possible peaceful avenue of resistance, naturally you’re going to see the rise of factions which favor violent resistance. One of my most formative experiences in understanding this conflict happened in 2018 when I watched Israeli soldiers firing on protesters with sniper rifles and live ammo. B’Tselem explicitly denounced this as unlawful. There’s nothing that could possibly make such a thing okay, and it was a very clear illustration of the way Israel has cut Palestinians off from all the normal pathways toward peaceful resolution. I said when all this started that I believe the Hamas attack will ultimately be a net negative for Palestinians, but that I can’t in good conscience “condemn Hamas” because nobody can articulate a positive direction that Palestinians should be taking. The fact that all peaceful avenues of resistance have been cut off is not the fault of the Palestinians, and it’s not the fault of Hamas. It’s the fault of the Israeli government. Hamas is just what you get when you create an intolerably abusive apartheid state which keeps millions of people in a concentration camp whose inhabitants are cut off from basic human needs. Hamas isn’t the disease, it’s a symptom of the disease. The disease is an apartheid settler-colonialist project which cannot exist without endless violence, warfare and abuse.

Saved - November 3, 2023 at 4:07 PM

@RagingKuJo1222 - Silas (Ourn) Brown 🇺🇲 🇮🇱

The "Palestinians" brought this upon themselves. Hamas has been in power since 2007. Elections have consequences. If people want to "Free Palestine." Start by getting rid of Hamas as the Government body of the Gaza Strip. https://t.co/qeqH8tMtQ7

Video Transcript AI Summary
Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005, leaving behind valuable resources. However, the Palestinians burned down the greenhouses and elected Hamas as their leaders. Since then, Hamas has used resources from Israel to create rockets and attack the Jewish people, neglecting the needs of the people in Gaza. To truly support a free Palestine, it is necessary to eliminate Hamas. This will lead to a better future for both the people in Gaza and Israel. Eradicating Hamas is the only way to achieve freedom for Palestine.
Full Transcript
Speaker 0: Free Palestine. We did. Israel completely pulled out of the Gaza Strip in 2005 and forcibly expelled all the Israelis living there, leaving behind beautiful land, greenhouse gases, and a thriving environment. And what did the Palestinian people do? Burn down all the greenhouses that Israel left behind and elect Hamas, the terrorist group, as their leaders in 2000 and heaven. And since then, every single resource that has been brought into Gaza from Israel has been used to create rockets by Hamas to attack the Jewish people. None of that water, none of that funding going to educate or enriching the lives of the people living in Gaza. And who's deciding that? The terrorists they elected, Hamas. So if you really want a free Palestine or free the Palestinians, then support Israel in eradicating Hamas from the face of this earth because the day that Hamas disappears will be a better day for the history of the people living in Gaza and the people living in Israel. The only way to free Palestine is to eradicate Hamas forever.
Saved - November 8, 2023 at 10:54 PM
reSee.it AI Summary
Israel must regain control of Gaza to ensure peace and security. The 2005 eviction of Jewish citizens and the rise of Hamas was a grave mistake. Gaza has historical significance to the Jewish people. Israeli rule is crucial to prevent the Jihad from taking over again. Pro-Israel Arabs should be granted residency, but State-hating Jihadists must be kept away.

@YishaiFleisher - Yishai Fleisher يشاي ישי פליישר 🕎

Israel must defeat #Hamas, govern #Gaza, resettle Jews there, and ensure a decent life for decent people including pro-Israel Arabs. Modern Israel had beautiful communities in Gaza and governed it. Israel had a full life there until the great mistake of the 2005 "Disengagement" eviction - where our own country kicked out Jewish citizens and placed the corrupt PA to rule, which quickly became #Hamas. We, the "settlers", warned that the Jihad will take over. Historically, Gaza is ancient Jewish land part of the Tribe of Judah. Now, Israel must return to govern Gaza - that is historical justice. But even more basically, Israeli rule is the ONLY way to peace and security. No one else can ensure that the Jihad won't take over again. Only Israel can properly govern and police in Gaza. As I have said before, I believe that non-Jihad pro-Israel Arabs should gain Israeli residency status. However, Jewish State-hating Jihadists will have no quarter in or adjacent to Israel.

Saved - November 11, 2023 at 10:39 PM

@IDF - Israel Defense Forces

The people of Gaza know that Hamas is responsible for dragging them into war—and they deserve better. https://t.co/WkKgexEbeR

Saved - November 17, 2023 at 2:35 PM

@ASimplePatriot - American.357

The idea that Hamas is a resistance movement is a fairly tale. Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. Nothing to resist. Hamas chose to turn Gaza into a terrorist fortress and rocket launching base. They could have peace at any moment, but they choose war. https://t.co/mUAxpNUw17

Saved - December 8, 2023 at 10:59 PM

@marklevinshow - Mark R. Levin

There Are No ‘Innocent Palestinians’ https://townhall.com/columnists/dwwilber/2023/12/07/there-are-no-innocent-palestinians-n2632056

There Are No ‘Innocent Palestinians’   townhall.com
Saved - December 13, 2023 at 1:46 AM
reSee.it AI Summary
The revised death toll from the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israeli civilians is estimated to be 300-600. While each death is tragic and condemnable, it cannot justify the disproportionate response of targeting Gaza, including schools and hospitals. Israel's actions align with a genocidal intent expressed by some officials, aiming to expel Palestinians from their homeland. This issue goes beyond Hamas's actions and demands attention to the ongoing expulsion of the Palestinian people.

@peterdaou - Peter Daou

QUESTION: How many Israeli civilians did Hamas kill on Oct. 7? 1. The official death toll was revised down from 1400 to 1200. 2. Media sources have listed several hundred of the casualties as Israeli military. 3. Reports indicate that some of the dead were killed by IDF fire. CONCLUSION: A rough estimate is that Hamas killed 300-600 Israeli civilians. Each of those deaths is a horrific tragedy. Each should be vigorously condemned. Civilians must never be targeted. But there is no moral universe in which leveling #Gaza, targeting schools and hospitals, and murdering thousands upon thousands of Palestinian children is an appropriate response. The hideous truth is that Israel and the US are using the 10/7 attack as an excuse to carry out the genocidal intent expressed by a number of Israeli officials. They want to obliterate Palestinians. Period. In the end, this is not about Hamas releasing hostages or surrendering. It's about the continuation of Israel's decades-long expulsion of the #Palestinian people from their homeland.

Saved - December 14, 2023 at 7:57 PM
reSee.it AI Summary
Israel's recent proposal to grant Palestinians the option to leave Gaza is seen as an ultimatum, with potential permanent displacement and ongoing destruction. Right-wing think tanks and politicians have successfully pushed this idea into the mainstream, revealing possible insights into Israel's endgame. Connections between these advocates and lawmakers are also noteworthy. Various individuals and organizations, such as the Tikvah Fund's Churchill Program and Likud activist Amir Weitmann, have been involved in promoting expulsion. This is not an isolated incident, as past initiatives have also aimed to encourage Palestinian emigration from Gaza.

@jonathan_shamir - Jonathan Shamir

Israel's sudden concern to grant Palestinians the "choice" to leave Gaza is an ultimatum of its own contrivance: Between displacement (that every precedent shows will be permanent) and the destruction it is wreaking in realtime. 🧵on my report https://jewishcurrents.org/israels-humanitarian-expulsion

Israel’s “Humanitarian” Expulsion The Israeli right is capitalizing on the aftermath of October 7th to build support for a permanent transfer of Palestinians out of Gaza. jewishcurrents.org

@jonathan_shamir - Jonathan Shamir

The right-wing think tanks and politicians that are advancing this as a "humanitarian" solution have not only managed to launder this idea into the mainstream. Their arguments and ties to lawmakers may also shed light on Israel's endgame

@jonathan_shamir - Jonathan Shamir

Raphael BenLevi, the head of Tikvah Fund's Churchill Program, wrote in a paper that Israel must "create an unbearable situation in the Gaza Strip" to force Palestinians out of Gaza. Ron Dermer, the man tasked by Netanyahu to explore expulsion, is affiliated with the same program https://t.co/89mU0QzkD8

@jonathan_shamir - Jonathan Shamir

Likud activist Amir Weitmann sent his Misgav Institute policy paper on expulsion to Egypt to the Intel Ministry. Soon after, a leaked document revealed that the ministry was considering it as a postwar solution + intel minister Gila Gamliel published an op-ed backing the idea https://t.co/Z29cuhtT3P

@jonathan_shamir - Jonathan Shamir

Finally, it is crucial to recall that this is not an aberration: Besides 1mil Palestinians expelled in past wars, Israel has advanced several "voluntary" initiatives in Gaza—from Meir's plan to pay off 60,000 to leave to Paraguay to Eshkol's emigration offices in refugee camps

Saved - December 21, 2023 at 3:59 PM

@FlyingGus - Gus Safadi

🧵 2/3 "What the Isreali's are interested in doing in the end is Ethnically Cleansing Gaza" John Mearsheimer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXV8tgG2GM&t=1s

Video Transcript AI Summary
The speaker discusses the difference between targeting Hamas and intentionally harming civilians. They claim that the Israeli actions are not solely focused on Hamas, but rather involve purposely killing a large number of civilians. They argue that evidence from Israeli leaders and assessments supports the idea that this is a campaign to punish and ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank by getting rid of Palestinians.
Full Transcript
Speaker 0: There's a difference between going after Hamas and punishing on purpose the civilian population. Those 2 different things. If you go after Hamas, if you're the Israelis and you go after Hamas, there is going to be a significant amount of collateral damage, which is to say a lot of civilians are going to be killed. That's inevitable. And it's in large part because Hamas is woven into the civilian population, but the Israelis are not simply going after Hamas. What the Israelis are doing is they are purposely killing huge numbers of civilians, and the evidence for this is overwhelming. And the evidence comes from inside Israel itself. If you look at the statements that Israeli leaders are making and if you look at the Assessments of the bombing campaign that are coming from inside Israel and are well done assessments, it's quite clear that this is a classic punishment campaign where the aim is to kill large numbers of civilians. And I believe, and there is a good amount of evidence to support this, What the Israelis are interested in doing in the end is ethnically cleansing Gaza. I believe the Israelis would like to ethnically cleanse Gaza, and they would like to ethnically cleanse the West Bank. They'd like to get rid of the Palestinians.
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reSee.it AI Summary
Israeli military commanders and officers have been under scrutiny for their disturbing posts advocating for extreme measures against Gaza and its inhabitants. These posts include calls for the killing of civilians, starving Gazans, erasing Gaza, and spreading diseases among the population. The officers express a lack of pity for Gazans and emphasize the need for victory and the eradication of Hamas. Additionally, some officers have made anti-Islamic posts, further raising concerns about their moral compass. The series of posts reveal a genocidal language, with military personnel advocating for the destruction of Gaza and the expulsion of its people. There are mentions of targeting civilians and using disproportionate force, all in the name of eliminating the enemy and ensuring the safety of Israeli citizens. The posts reflect a strong desire for revenge and a belief that the enemy deserves no mercy. These disturbing sentiments highlight a concerning disregard for human life and raise questions about the ethical standards of these military personnel.

@ytirawi - Younis Tirawi | يونس

Exclusive 🧵 to the [@CIJ_ICJ] (!): disturbing language Israeli military commanders and officers calling to “kill civilians”, “kill children”, “starve Gazans to death”, “erase Gaza”, & “spread diseases among civilians”. 1. Commander & Major. Avinoam Goelman, 98 divsion ->>

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Major. Avinoam has fought in Gaza and taken several pictures among the pictures in Gaza. In the post above from 8. Oct he writes this (I translated to English) full post. “We need to kill them mercilessly. Without distinguishing between Hamas and civilians because there is no such thing” Also some excerpts: “I consider myself a liberal, in favor of equal human rights…. We need to kill them mercilessly. Without distinguishing between Hamas operatives and the civilian population because there is no such thing… To me, anyone who lives in the Strip is a potential murderer. The "innocent" civilians in Gaza are not innocent at all... The residents of Gaza as a society must pay with their bodies and souls the price of nurturing this evil regime. Gaza must be conquered, and all its leadership, including the mid-level leadership, must be killed. All the mosques in Gaza must be destroyed… We need to break the Gazan society from within, sowing in it pain, sorrow, and loss in such a way that it cannot rehabilitate itself as a society with a murderous, evil narrative. We will have no choice.“

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In another post from 22 Dec he writes calling on starving Gazans: "There is only one solution to bring the hostages back home. Israel will prevent all humanitarian aid, Gaza will starve entirely, and when Gaza starves, hundreds of thousands of hungry Gazans will overthrow Sinwar and remove him and Hamas”

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On 10 Oct, calling to wipe out Gazans. "As time passes.. The city of Gaza, with all its residents, must be destroyed. Whoever wants to flee and save their miserable life should flee to Egypt. But the city of Gaza, with all its buildings, must be erased from existence. A city of Sodom that has no right to exist” Full post “"As time passes, the full extent of the horror and pogrom carried out by the cursed beasts from Gaza becomes clear. Rape of women, murder, looting, torture, humiliations, and abuse of babies, the elderly, and soldiers—a true Holocaust. No less. The city of Gaza, with all its residents, must be destroyed. Whoever wants to flee and save their miserable life should flee to Egypt. But the city of Gaza, with all its buildings, must be erased from existence. A city of Sodom that has no right to exist. The Hamas organization and all its people should be destroyed and lost and killed. A prey animal of the lowest kind has no right to exist”

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On two other posts. 8 Oct: "If anyone there at the Chief of Staff's office is listening, I would appreciate it if they would explain that it is enough with the defensive battles and it is time to go on offensive and erase Gaza. Whoever doesn’t evacuate will die” 7 Oct: “"Our war for survival began today. In war, as in war. The state of Gaza must be destroyed without mercy."

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On 8th April: "I will continue to shout this everywhere: There is no other solution except for the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, the elimination of the Nazis to the last one, full security control by the IDF, the renewed annexation of strategic areas and settlement construction, stopping the supply and entry of fuels and goods, while applying pressure for the release of the hostages by evacuating the population to Sinai and annexing additional territories, until they surrender. Anything else will bring further destruction and death to the State of Israel, from the south and north”

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2. Israeli military officer Captain.Eliah Sagron In a post from 22 Nov, calling to spread diseases among the civilian population. “Act against all the residents of Gaza with a siege and permanent expulsion and in ways that will drastically reduce their population. (We don't necessarily have to do it ourselves; we can simply prevent the entry of fuel and medicine, and nature will take its course and they will die from epidemics)." Full post: "It's clear we haven't had our wake-up call! A society that glorifies and praises death is not deterred by being sent to its death. We are currently eliminating Hamas not to punish but to remove the threat. If we want to create deterrence, we need to start openly talking about conquest! We need to start talking about Hamas as an organization acting on behalf of the citizens as it truly is and act against all the residents of Gaza with a siege and permanent expulsion and in ways that will drastically reduce their population. (We don't necessarily have to do it ourselves; we can simply prevent the entry of fuel and medicine, and nature will take its course and they will die from epidemics)."

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On Dec 26: "In the past, the Southern Command General said: 'Whoever conquers Gaza gets a gift - Gaza. The intention was towards the residents of Gaza, and this was the reason to avoid it. Today, the concept is over! Today, we conquer Gaza and push the previous residents Out!"

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On Dec 21 the officer “Throw them [Gazans] by ships or in parachuted containers full of people..Stop providing them with humanitarian supplies, and according to what many nations say this will lead to a humanitarian disaster that could cause epidemics that will quickly wipe out most of them, Full post: “What is the real solution for the citizens of Gaza? First, what it is not! It is not to leave them in the Gaza Strip because that will only keep us in the same place where we started, no matter who controls it. If it is us, it will be with painful attacks like in the West Bank, and if it is another force, it will lead to rearmament as it has since we left in the disengagement. We cannot trust any organization in this matter as we have seen that every Muslim organization turns into Jewish murderers and every foreign organization folds the moment it is under too great a threat (as we saw with UNIFIL). So what then? Around the world, there are several countries that have been supporting Gaza for years, both economically and in terms of armament. Among these countries are Egypt, Qatar, Iran, Syria, Russia, and others, and to them, the Arabs of Gaza should be transferred. How? (1/2)

@ytirawi - Younis Tirawi | يونس

Part 2 of the post from Dec 21 By ships that will drop them a few kilometers from the shore into inflatable boats, or by parachuted containers full of people. Stop providing them with humanitarian supplies, and according to what many nations say this will lead to a humanitarian disaster that could cause epidemics that will quickly wipe out most of them, so those who do not die of starvation will die of diseases. - It may be a bit unpleasant, but it is good pressure on the nations of the world to arrange a replacement location for them.

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On 1 Nov: “Gaza can no longer be the garbage dump for terrorists. We now understand that this garbage dump needs to be cleared to create a new park of life for the residents of Israel” Remember Hiria, which at some point turned into Ariel Sharon Park? So now that's Gaza. So to all my friends who still call for deporting terrorists to Gaza - Gaza can no longer be the garbage dump for terrorists. We now understand that this garbage dump needs to be cleared to create a new park of life for the residents of Israel. The terrorist garbage needs to be thrown out of the promised land areas, and we should return to turn Gaza into one of Israel's beautiful coastal cities through Jewish settlement.

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3. Commander Major Yaakov Madi, Bislamach Brigade * (He is the superior of Cpt. Eliah mentioned above) He wrote in a post a few days ago: "It's the third round, and we are on our way... With God's blessed help, the nation of Israel will win... ERASING GAZA"

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On 17 april Major Yakoov writes: “On Sunday, I'm taking my boy back to Gaza, may it swiftly lay in ruins in our lifetime amen”

@ytirawi - Younis Tirawi | يونس

On 7 April: "The Nazis, may their name be erased, GAZA MUST BE DESTROYED ."

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4. Major. Yochai Greenlick, commander of IDF’s 5645 battalion in a post from 16 Nov. “"Soldiers who have not yet entered Gaza want to enter quickly because they are afraid that by the time they get in, there will be no Gaza left for them as well."

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5. Israeli military officer Captain. Elad Gabian from the Carmeli brigade (which is now located at Netzarim according to some reports) is CALLING TO KILL CHILDREN. Warning: ⚠️ He writes on 11 Oct.. “To clarify, their children also need to die; they suck this evil from the breasts of their pig mothers” Full post: Hi, I am currently serving in reserve duty as a combat officer on the northern border, and I wanted to tell you that all the donations we are receiving are very heartwarming. Yesterday, I swapped my socks for hiking socks that were donated to us, and it’s truly a world of difference. So, thank you very much for that and for all the other support, of course. But, if you really want to contribute, I have one small request if possible... **** In recent days, we are witnessing a kind of evil we have not known before, something that is hard for me even to describe in words, and it will probably take time until we manage to understand and process what is happening here in recent days. Sadly, I have to say that I am not surprised; the writing was on the wall that there are Arabs who are essentially continuing the ways of the Nazis. Personally, and along with others, I tried to cry out mainly after the wake-up call from Guardian of the Walls, but it was probably too late. **** My request is really simple and doesn’t even cost money. My request is that you do not accept the reality that such Nazis still exist in the world. That’s it, that’s all. They need to be exterminated along with their families down to the last one. To clarify, their children also need to die; they suck this evil from the breasts of their pig mothers and will pass this evil on to their children as well. **** Maybe for some of you, it’s hard to say this, to think this, or even to read the words I just wrote out of some distorted and unclear sense of pity. If we do not exterminate them down to the last one, this story will repeat itself. Write a letter now to your grandchildren explaining how and why we did not eradicate this evil when we had the chance. **** Demand from our leadership and our security forces to exterminate them down to Here is the link to his post: https://www.facebook.com/eladgab

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6. Senior Commander Lt Colonel Tal Bibi from the Nahal Brigade. “Take down 100 k or 200 K Gazans and then throw the rest in the sea…. There are no civilians… flatten Gaza”

@ytirawi - Younis Tirawi | يونس

🧵This is one of his least genocidal statements. Lt. Colonel Tal Bibi, a senior commander from Nahal Brigade, has been calling to flatten Gaza & killing of civilians for months. Just yesterday, he called to cut off everything electricity, water, media and then wipe out Gaza -> https://t.co/opYJsAgvrQ

@ytirawi - Younis Tirawi | يونس

7. Senior Commander, Lt. Colonel Sheila Granevich from the Kiryati Brigade, who has been fighting in Gaza, published a post on October 18 that called to “leave no innocents in the strip and the total expulsion of it’s citizens. Full post: It's not clear: The hospital event symbolizes a tremendous loss for Israel. Not because of the assignment of responsibility, but because of the framing of the discussion. Because if a real war is planned, and not just another limp round, at some point Israel will hit a hospital. Or a clinic. Or an UNRWA shelter parking lot. Intentionally or by mistake. That's how it is. And dozens will die there. And Hamas will report hundreds. And the Arab world will 'rage'. That's how it is. We've been there, again and again. So, in light of yesterday's developments, and the underlying assumptions, how do you think the global discussion will look then? That's right. Terrible and damaging. Because as long as Israel's entire conduct signals that we are in another round. And that the 'decisive' goal is to blow off steam, kill some terrorists, and along the way destroy some buildings—maybe after conquering a few neighborhoods and killing a few 'seniors'—we have lost. Because on such a battlefield, the world will say, almost intuitively—okay, so what do you want? They killed 1,500 people, and you killed 5,000. So, can we call it a day? You don't want international condemnation, do you? And in such a distorted balance, when the discussion is not about the strategic situation but about the number of casualties and how many innocents were killed—all that is 'left' for Israel is the hostage situation. So let's assume for the sake of discussion that tomorrow the hostages are released. All of them. You know what? Even not in exchange for prisoner release but 'only' as part of a ceasefire agreement with hollow promises of reconstruction and international aid. A bit theoretical, but let's assume. You can fill in the details. The statements that this time Hamas is really deterred. So with all the immense joy over every returned hostage—has Israel changed anything strategically in such a situation? Has it prevented the next event? Will the Gazan population abandon their eternal fantasy of slaughtering Jews? And on a practical level. In such a development, will the residents of the Gaza envelope agree to return to live hundreds of meters from those murderous Nazis? Does anyone think that the Gazans, who will now commemorate the martyrs of October with songs, posters, and symbols, making them role models throughout the Muslim-Arab world—will abandon their dream of murdering us all? Will Hezbollah, the Arabs of Judea and Samaria, and some of the Israeli Arabs see this development and decide that they don't mess with the Jews? So let's say it again: The declared and resolute goal of Israel must be to cleanse Gaza of Nazis. Every speech must clarify that even if it takes three years, Israeli citizens will no longer live a few hundred meters from bloodthirsty Nazis. That's how it is. And in such a reality, it makes no sense to leave innocents in Gaza, assuming there are such. From here, the means will be derived: a global effort, imposing responsibility on Egypt and the Arab world, evacuating residents, enforcing a curfew, preventing northward movement, establishing refugee camps on the border and as far south as possible, transferring residents to Sinai/Egypt, complete exposure of the 'Upper Gaza' area, siege and fighting until total surrender. It will take as long as it takes. And what will happen afterward? What will the strip look like in the long term? In my opinion, the Nazi strip should be completely evacuated. It should become a security zone. Perhaps shared agriculture and industry areas or some such nonsense could be established there. It's not out of reach. Compared to the 7 million refugees who left Syria—two million Gazans (most of whom are 'refugees' anyway) are small change (1/2)

@ytirawi - Younis Tirawi | يونس

Part 2 of the 18 Oct post: Especially if the world is mobilized and it is set as a clear goal. If we really want—it is not a legend. But even if we define a more 'minor' goal that still marks a territorial price—a very wide security strip in the east (where a strict destruction zone will be enforced), the evacuation of northern Gaza, the selective return of residents, and the setting of an additional territorial price in such and other terrorism scenarios—it makes sense in itself. In any case, Israel is currently in the worst of all worlds. It is enslaved to a distorted world order with different interests than its own. It corresponds with impossible rules of engagement. And creates an incentive system that does not allow for victory. Because if all the residents stay and distorted 'rules of war' are enforced, what exactly is Israel supposed to do? How do you fight under such conditions? And if Israel accepts such a distorted framing, who will even take Israel's demand to evacuate hospitals seriously? If the rules of the game are that there are no demands or responsibilities from the Gazans, and even Egypt is not firmly required to absorb the population— hitting a hospital becomes a kind of lifeline for the Gazans. A card that symbolizes ceasefires, humanitarian aid, and Israeli restraint. And in such a case, why would the Gazans evacuate hospitals? So let's clarify again: logical pragmatism, to a degree. The USA is important to Israel. In armament, in diplomacy, and much more. Everything is clear. And yet, Israel must have red lines. In the current war, loss (or even a draw) is not really an option. The question of whether October 7th will be commemorated in a few years by our enemies as a second Nakba or as a tremendous victory is dramatic for our existence here. We must not lose. We must not close our eyes. We must not get addicted to slogans or an American bear hug. And we must not be stupid and conventional. This is a war for our very existence. This war must be won. Adam Gold

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Responding to the lack of humanitarian aid entering Gaza, Lt. Colonel Granevich writes mockingly about the suffering of Gazans. "HUMANITARIAN AID? LET THEM DRINK THE SEA OF GAZA" https://t.co/LLw2LRnHn4

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8. Colonel. Nir Yogev, head of the IDF’s safety office command in a post on his personal facebook account. “Do not broadcast close-up pictures of the suffering in Gaza, of masses [Gazans] searching among the ruins for belongings or survivors. It's not interesting!! It’s just not interesting.” Full post ..."Do not broadcast close-up pictures of the suffering in Gaza, of masses searching among the ruins for belongings or survivors. It's not interesting!! It’s just not interesting. For the first time in my 46 years of existence, the suffering of the innocent in Gaza no longer interests me. They are completely transparent to me. That's it!! For four days now, I've been seeing the pictures and videos of the residents of the [Gaza] Envelope, and in the few hours I sleep, I hear screams, imagining my children crying in a room engulfed in flames or being taken away by riled up masses into the [Gaza] Strip. In the funerals of my friends, when the wife mourns, for a moment I think it could have been my wife in her stead; when the children mourn, I start to shed tears with them. Do not show me close-up pictures of Gaza, it's just not interesting. I have a feeling that the most difficult sights, those that will emerge from captivity, we have not yet seen, and it will take years to recover from them, if at all. I am not a vengeful person, I have never seen myself as such, but here we are, starting from October 7th, 2023, I yearn for it. And now it's time for victory. I will lose friends yet, and I will carry coffins, eulogize, and console, but I will be on the victor’s side. Just one small request: Do not show me close-up pictures of Gaza. It's not interesting. (Image from the funeral of Lieutenant Colonel Roee Levi, may he rest in peace, a friend whom I had the honor of carrying his coffin.)"

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9. Israeli Major Amit Eylion calling on to kill all Palestinians and flatten Gaza. “.. Now we need to be like a madman who has lost control - to kill and destroy everything and flatten Gaza. Anyone who remains there is as good as dead! I wish all our forces success...” https://t.co/44MgNay6Ef

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10. Senior Commander and Lt.Colonel Tal Torn on his facebook account on Oct 7 and Oct 8 “Human animals. Unbelievable. Wipe out Gaza now!” and … “Gaza need to be destroyed today” https://t.co/ngxuR4kK1m

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11. Lt.Colonel Yair Maen, 252nd division, a senior commander and one of the operational chiefs that is responsible for Israeli airstrikes throughout Gaza.

@ytirawi - Younis Tirawi | يونس

First Publication: Lt. Colonel Yair Maen of 252nd Division, a senior IDF commander, notably appointed as one of the chiefs overseeing Israeli airstrikes on Gaza. He disclosed that Operation Nir and Oz in Khan Younis aimed to wipe out the town of Khirbet Khaza'a as revenge ->> https://t.co/T504vZRcyk

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12. Tank commander Baoz Maman in the Kiryati Brigade, 4th brigade on Jan 11: “Let the Gaza Strip be erased, let all the houses there be destroyed, and let the entire population there live in tents.” Full post: I have a Palestinian friend. She is Israeli, young, beautiful, opinionated. She annoys me many times and I annoy her, and I really love arguing with her and especially finding the places where we see eye to eye. First of all, I highly recommend following her; she is very witty and smart, writes wonderfully, and accurately reflects how the young generation of what we call "Israeli Arabs" thinks, and they courageously call themselves "Palestinian citizens of the state." Today, Hanin wrote an article with many things I (again) disagree with. My response is in the comments on the original post, but also here. You are welcome to respond, argue, share identical or different opinions. I do not allow insults or disrespect, consider this a warning!!! Have a good weekend, everyone. Sorry, I don't feel shame. There are many other things. I feel deep sorrow for the victims and the destruction. I feel immense frustration that we have reached this point. I feel paralyzing fear that I am the only one in this crazy place talking about tomorrow from a place that no one else understands; that to have a different tomorrow, we can no longer speak in hollow slogans. But shame, I do not feel. I do not feel shame because the language that started (and yes, I know this is not really the beginning and that there is a background, etc.) on October 7 erased the concept of shame. On October 7, the Palestinians clearly said: We are here to... On October 7, the Palestinians clearly said: We are here to kill you. No matter what you do, our supreme mission is to eliminate you. Us and our partners from Iran and Hezbollah. So when they come to kill me, I kill. And I try to do it with more force because I have no option but to win. And kill them! So no, I do not feel shame. This does not mean I cannot be a partner for a better future. To continue to strive, to write, to contribute, and to believe that it is possible. Because it is worthwhile. Because we must!!! But since October 7, I also say not at any cost! Want to talk about an arrangement? Want an end to the occupation? Want the removal of checkpoints and the opening of borders? It will start to happen when there is not one person in Gaza who calls for the destruction of Israel without going to prison! Not one imam will sing on his loudspeaker on Friday to kill Israelis without being immediately deported from here. When this starts to happen, I will return to support real steps. Until then? As far as I'm concerned, anyone who continues to call for killing me, I'm done with accepting spit in the face and convincing everyone it's rain!!! Let the Gaza Strip be erased, let all the houses there be destroyed, and let the entire population there live in tents. Because between you and me, Hanin, my true friend, if I have to choose (and they are forcing me to choose!) between it happening to them or happening to my children - the choice since October 7 has never been easier!!!

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13. Major. Don Goldberger, commander in the Netzah Yisrael Combat Reserve Battalion 941. Demands to erase Gaza now from the face of the earth and built settlements on its ruins 20 Nov: "Imagine, an homage to Shlomo Artzi Imagine a beautiful world, less sad than it is now. And we flatten Gaza to pieces And above the roofs, only stars And the hostages return home, And we are going to rebuild Gaza like a paradise anew. Imagine a bit of happiness because it is so, so rare here. A city built out of the darkness and all of us in joy, And she caresses me and tells me, What has been built here is already the pinnacle, And it is full of reflections of sadness and joy. Imagine in the middle of a beautiful day Skies above you, love with you Yes, that's how it happened, After the war, I still remember her, like in a storm. Imagine us avenging all of Gaza's crimes. Imagine a simple world, Sleeping peacefully without fear Smells of trees full of berries, And we are safe "We will never hate each other again," she whispers and roars. Imagine that we take the opportunity to become united again. Imagine life, moving backward and forward What was missing is filled again, what was gone is suddenly there, And I look into her eyes knowing that we have won. Imagine us winning together on all fronts. Imagine in the middle of a beautiful day Skies above you, love with you. Yes, that's how it happened, After the war, I still remember her, like in a storm.. Imagine a new Gaza, a city of inspiration. Imagine a beautiful world, less sad than it is now And we walk on the beach, with the sun in our pockets (Imagine a beautiful world, a city out of the darkness) A simple world, imagine revenge of happiness." 8 Oct: “What Gaza has done to us will not be forgiven. This is a war of survival, a war of good versus evil. The people of Israel are alive and strong. The mission should be to erase the city of terror, murder, and evil that is Gaza from the face of the earth, "like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah," and the” 29 Oct: "Where are there still people like Yitzhak Shamir, may he rest in peace? Gaza demands its due. Instead of housing Nazi murderers, it should house settlements, cities, kibbutzim, a park in memory of the victims, agriculture, yeshivas, schools, and kindergartens. To place beauty there instead of ashes."

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14. Deputy commander Major Amit Deri of the 35th paratrooper brigades.

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[@CIJ_ICJ] (1/3) Israeli Major Amit Deri, a Deputy Commander within the 35th paratrooper brigade. In a facebook post from 10 Oct: “Gaza must be destroyed. All of it. Every building, every home, every school, and also Shifa Hospital. This isn't said by Ben Gvir. This was said clearly by Giora Eiland a moment ago. Giving Gaza residents a few hours to leave to Egypt & immediately start work. It doesn't take much time!! With intensive Air Force activity, it's a matter of a few days. There is no other way”

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15. Officer Captain Meir Rapaport. “Erase the memory of the Amalek”

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(3/3) "We will further erase the memory of Amalek from under the heavens, and we will not forget!" Writes another Israeli military officer from the same brigade. Captain Meir Rapaport. (Apparently a U.S citizen) in a post on 12 of November attaching a picture of himself on the ruins of a Palestinian home in North Gaza city.

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16. Officer Sasha Protasenya, 8163 combat engineering corps “Dea** to the Arab sc*m in Gaza, all of them”

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Dear @CIJ_ICJ. I would like to report on explicit incitement to genocide regarding two Israeli officers from the Combat Engineering Corps' 8163rd Battalion. One is currently in Jabalia. 1. Officer Sashs Protasenya on 11 of Octobe: “Dea*h to the Arab Sc*m in Gaza! ALL OF THEM! EVERY LAST ONE! ALL OF THEM MUST D*E LIKE THE SCUM THEY ARE!!” (1/4)

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17. Sg. Major Alex Garelik: “The task is simple: to turn Gaza into a flat area with beautiful beaches”

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Second: Israeli officer Sg.Major Alex Garelik: “I hope that this time there will be no agreements, postponements, or stops. The task is simple: to turn Gaza into a flat area with beautiful beaches. Am I concerned about the residents of Gaza? I'll say right away, NO. If I used to feel sorry for them (purely on a human level), today I don't. They, under the guise of Islam, have desecrated it. There is no forgiveness for them. An eye for an eye! The people of Israel live” (3/4)

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18. Lt.Colonel Noam Aharon, commander of Israel’s 9300 battalion “Eliminate to pieces every male in the city*, take the property, women, and children, and *flatten the city*.”

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Exclusive: Lt. Colonel Noam Aharon, the commander of Israel’s 9300 battalion, stated that they must act like the biblical Simeon and Levi by, I quote“ Eliminate to pieces every male in the city*, take the property, women, and children, and *flatten the city*.” Full post from 28 of Nov: "Should we have let him treat our sister like a harlot?" In the upcoming Torah portion, Dinah, Jacob's daughter, is raped and cruelly imprisoned in Shechem. Jacob remains silent, the brothers are dejected, but two other brothers, Simeon and Levi, see the situation differently. They make a pact with the people of Shechem—the men of the city will undergo circumcision, Shechem will marry their sister, and thus they can intermarry. While the men of Shechem are at the peak of their pain from the circumcision, Simeon and Levi *maneuver* in the city, rescue their sister Dinah, *eliminate to pieces every male in the city*, take the property, women, and children, and *flatten the city*. Jacob yells at them, What have you done? The Canaanites will finish us! What will the world say?" Simeon and Levi respond— Should we have let him treat our sister like a harlot??? No one will rape our sister, slaughter our children, and live to [tell] about it. Since then, we have only grown stronger, and as is known, the peaple are the same people and history *always* repeats itself, we made mistakes, we got hit. I am now thinking about the girls, about the hostages and how to release them, about the slaughtered children. There is no choice, we must be like Simeon and Levi.

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19. Yonatan Eisenstein ( a normal soldier in the paratroopers reserve brigade, but for Hague-relates purposes will include it here) “Go through neighborhood by neighborhood… Artillery and tank fire turn the neighborhood into a parking lot. A parking lot. Just like that…Bani Suheila may it be destroyed and burned quickly in our days” Full post: 2 Feb Last Tuesday, two days after the battalion left Khan Yunis, we were seated to talk - reservists in the Paratroopers Brigade. We talked about emotions, experiences, sharpened insights, and thoughts for the future. One of the most significant things that emerged was the frustration that we left Gaza while the fighting is still ongoing, that we left and Hamas has not yet been defeated, that we left but have not yet won. And this is quite amazing. After all, these are people who left everything nearly 4 months ago and went out to fight with immense risk and tremendous self-sacrifice, and now the thing they want most is to go back and fight. This gap between the uncompromising sacrifice and determination of the fighting ranks, and the feebleness and weakness of the senior military echelon and the political echelon, who are making noises about stopping the war and diluting its goals, is inconceivable to me. That's it. There's no point here. Just to say that although we were released, for us, staying another year if it means completing the task of destroying Hamas would be worthwhile. In the picture: Bani Suheila may it be destroyed and burned quickly in our days, Amen 11 Oct post: A few thoughts from a reservist soldier during a break between missions: 1. The heart is torn with sorrow from the Simchat Torah pogrom they carried out against us, refusing to calm down and refusing to be comforted. 2. It needs to be said simply: the Hamas terrorists who committed the massacre are Islamist-Nazi terrorists nurtured and fed by an Islamist-Nazi society and ideology. 3. The circumstances have created a unique historical opportunity for us to solve the Gaza problem. This is an opportunity that we must not, simply must not, miss. Missing it will be unforgivable and will be a crying shame for generations. The window of opportunity is short and will close soon because Western powers' support will not last long. 4. Here are the general lines: open the Rafah crossing southward to Egypt for the escape of Gaza residents. 5. Go through neighborhood by neighborhood, starting from the north and ending in the south, announcing that in an hour the neighborhood will be destroyed and residents must leave. 6. Artillery and tank fire turn the neighborhood into a parking lot. A parking lot. Just like that. 7. Do not endanger soldiers out of pity for enemy civilians. There is no forgiveness for the crimes they committed against us, and no mercy for the lives of the enemy. 8. After a week, there will be no residents in Gaza. 9. Restore the Jewish settlements evacuated during the disengagement. If we do not do this, if we do not change the approach and continue with the "rounds" policy, the Gaza problem will never be solved. If we do not do this, the next terrible massacre is only a matter of time. Senior political and security officials, you must understand – the past cannot be changed, and the Simchat Torah failure will forever be on your record. You can currently shape the future for the Jewish state.

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20. Major Avrum Tomer, an infantry company commander, calls for starving the population in Gaza and asserts that civilians in Gaza bear the consequences of all events . He also calls to destroy Gaza. Our moral starting point should be clear….And if we need to starve the entire population so that Hamas also starves, so be it, and if we need to destroy the Strip, we will destroy it. turn the Gaza Strip and perhaps parts of Lebanon into islands of ruins, from the sea, air, and land. ..just as the Gazan people (not Hamas, also the civilians) are responsible for the horrific massacre on Saturday, so every killing and loss in the Strip are solely their fault, and it doesn't matter at all from which direction the missile came. On Oct 18 Our moral starting point should be clear: just as the Gazan people (not Hamas, also the civilians) are responsible for the horrific massacre on Saturday, so every killing and loss in the Strip are solely their fault, and it doesn't matter at all from which direction the missile came. Here’s a reminder: Hamas and the other Nazi organizations can surrender at any moment, return the hostages, and reduce the scale of disaster on their side. As long as they do not do so, there is no step we take and no weapon we deploy that lacks legitimacy. The panic on our side from the government, the media, and all the hasbara fighters, to immediately show the world that we didn't hit the hospital (which had already received an evacuation order) is a worrying sign for the continuation of the war. After all, there will be events where we hit civilians. It’s clear that we won't maintain international support for long. It’s clear that there will be more demonstrations against us worldwide. Should this affect us? Of course not. A bit of backbone. If we are at a Churchillian point in time, we must be clear and abandon the hasbara efforts. Only one message needs to come from us: we are fighting a cruel enemy, and all the consequences of the war are solely his responsibility. We have no pity for any of the enemy's people. Let them surrender and return the hostages. And if we need to starve the entire population so that Hamas also starves, so be it, and if we need to destroy the Strip, we will destroy it. Borrowing from sports – victory is not the most important thing, it is the only thing that matters now. And it is the only moral thing. Biden is with us; he speaks sensibly and chooses a side in an admirable manner, but even to him Bibi should have said: we will be happy to receive assistance, but without any conditions. Either shared fate or nothing (and let’s see them choose nothing a year before elections with overwhelming public support in America). Whoever thinks we are dependent on American aid here is simply wrong and underestimates us. Iron Dome is not a condition for victory, not here, not in Lebanon, not in Syria, nor any American technological weaponry; let the government harness the economy to create enough dumb or smart weapons with enough explosives, allow those who want to flee the combat zones to flee within the Strip or outside it, and turn the Gaza Strip and perhaps parts of Lebanon into islands of ruins, from the sea, air, and land. Those who do not support this from the outset – don’t bother trying to win their support at all. No proportions, no nothing. Everything until absolute victory.

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21. Lt. Col Eran Burg, senior commander from the IDF’s armored 188 brigade calls for a rain of bombs on Gaza. “I really hope that at 11 o'clock, with the sounding of the siren, a rain of munitions will fall on the Gaza Strip, so that they too will remember and not forget 🇮🇱🇮🇱.” https://t.co/ZMjwVVQnHc

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22. Lt. Col Shauli Sanker, the commander of IDF’s 121 battalion that fought in Khan Younis last January.

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🧵Exclusive: Shauli Sanker, Israel's commander of the 121st Battalion, part of IDF's 8th Brigade which fought in Khan Younis back in January, states that all Palestinians, from the oldest to youngest, deserve death. He calls on his superiors to indiscriminately bomb Gaza & WB -> https://t.co/VGPf6fhWn7

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23. Lt. Col Shmuel Yagodaev: “The day after' in the Gaza Strip needs to look in such a way that those who were there 'the day before' simply won't be!”

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🧵Lt. Colonel Shmuel Yagodaev, a chief commander of an IDF unit: On 10 Nov he writes : “To imprint notion of NAKBA 2 in their minds… Gaza returns to its state 56 years ago, where they are small, wounded, battered, busy burying their loved ones & above all, very frightened” ->> https://t.co/YwcloWUjwL

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24. Lt. Col (resv.) Haim Har-Zahav from the Israeli navy. On 29 Nov : “We must not pity the civilians of Gaza; they are human animals, just like Hamas” On 8 Nov he demands : “Everything should be leveled to the ground, even if there are no terrorists there” Full post: “I really don't understand how there are still houses standing in northern Gaza. Everything should be leveled to the ground, even if there are no terrorists there. Moreover, I would stop all the tractors involved in clearing the rubble. Who allows clearing during a war?

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25. Major Hagar Amar, 556 Battalion, Logistic corps. “The children will grow up to be martyrs, not normal people. No mercy. They are all destined to die” And “There is not a single woman or man in Gaza. There are only those destined to die. From the smallest to the greatest”… In other post: Full posts: 5 Nov You're not my beauty queen!!!!! You will not talk about the failure... who are you? You didn't serve in the army, you didn't serve the country. And the children there??? The children grow up to be martyrs, not normal people. No mercy. They are all destined to die. Am Yisrael Chai. Rana Raslan responds. 25 April Overall, they don't suffer there in Gaza. Those destined to die are frolicking in the water. He who shows mercy to the cruel... 19 Feb When you forget... remember!!!! There is not a single male human or female human in Gaza. There are only those destined to die. From the smallest to the greatest. Entire families were murdered and exterminated. No one had mercy on us on 10/7. The compassionate heart of the Jews must not soften!!! Am Yisrael Chai. We will win.

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26. Colonel Daniel Rod. Implicitly calling to Nuke Gaza: “There is no pearl harbor without Hiroshima” featuring Gaza in background. “We are dealing with Human animals” “An Immediate and improportionate response on Gaza” Extremely anti-Islamic posts featuring Islam as snakes. https://t.co/1cuSH53dxh

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27. Israeli machine gunner Avishalom Weinberg, 55th Paratroopers Brigade who was in Gaza for months and showed torched homes by his military. 2 days ago: “No innocents in Gaza. Death to the enemy!” 15 of May: “No innocent in Gaza. Death to the enemy” https://t.co/sXoN59xtS2

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28. Colonel Tsachi Finton, senior commander in IDF’s intelligence and combat units. Advocating to wipe out Gaza: “Every inch in Gaza will be like below”, “No innocents in Gaza”, “Gaza will be hell” and many other genocidal language including towards the people of the West Bank

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This shocking 🧵 reveals to [@CIJ_ICJ] Colonel Tsachi Fenton, a senior Israeli commander. “Gaza will be hell” Tsachi currently holds high-ranking position within special intelligence & combat unit during the war on Gaza & is responsible for central commanding roles in IDF -> https://t.co/JadXkgoss0

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29. Major. Asaf Fred, 460 brigade. “No good arabs. They are all enemies”, “IDF is crushing Gaza”, “Destroy Amalekite cities”, “They have nowhere to return to”.

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🧵 to [@CIJ_ICJ] Major Asaf Fred, currently in Rafah & a commander in IDF’s 460 Brigade, admits to the destruction of IUG university in Gaza, a court & Rimal neighborhood without any military objectives. He also called for the destruction of Amalekite cities + “‘no good arabs” https://t.co/YtNW7bJM1V

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30. Colonel (resv) Efraim Michaeli On Oct 7: ״A severe blow must be inflicted on Gaza, without distinction as to who will be harmed and how many will be harmed. ״If someone comes to kill you, rise early to kill him first." On 30 Nov: “We must bring ships to the sea and get them all out of Gaza. The concept of closing them within borders and not letting them move from Gaza worked against us and to our detriment. We need to open the border for them, to let them exit through the sea to the world.”

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31. Israeli Major. David Portel, a Company commander in the Gaza division On 3 Nov: “I want to win, and there is only one way to win: killing the enemy. To put it bluntly, at least 100,000 enemy corpses. And when I say at least, I expect 100s of thousands more in addition!… We are dealing with human beings. Against the devil, human psychology doesn't work. To the command attack attack end, another command must be added; destruction destruction end! Full post: “We have been at war with the cruelest enemy ever documented for almost a month. Alongside heroic and heart-wrenching stories, we still experience the pains of loss both inside and outside of Gaza. We are the most peace-loving people that ever was and ever will be. And that is precisely our greatest danger! There is no connection between a love of peace and humanity and the existential need to destroy our enemies. We all, especially those in the studios, must stop with these life-endangering nonsense! Let's get rid of this pathetic euphemism once and for all. I don't want to fight heroically when it's unnecessary. I don't want to protect anyone's life but our own. I want to live the day after… in a reality where all weapons hang in museums and not on our hips. I want to win, and there is only one way to win: killing the enemy. To put it bluntly, at least 100,000 enemy corpses. And when I say at least, I expect hundreds of thousands more in addition! Victory is achieved with the help of mathematics, not psychology, certainly not the distorted psychology that led us to think we are dealing with human beings. Against the devil, human psychology doesn't work. After a month of exciting and amazing fighting, we have destroyed more real estate than enemies. A month of fighting should have already eradicated Hamas from the face of the earth, regardless of a ground maneuver. 10,000 enemy dead is virtually nothing compared to what is needed to subdue the enemy and deter the other surrounding enemies. Unfortunately, this is what happens when you constantly act from being cornered, not from a complete path and absolute belief in the righteousness of our way—the difference between the two paths is vast. And regarding Hezbollah, we continue to make the same mistakes as with Hamas, thinking Lebanon matters to them. Hamas, Iran, and Hezbollah are driven by spirit, not material, a spirit of satanic hatred but a spirit nonetheless. Therefore, they cannot be tied to any logical or practical consideration, and we continue to do so repeatedly. In my opinion, Nasrallah will declare war one way or another, and we should have created a surprise yesterday and delivered a sudden blow that would have left him no room for his ridiculous speeches. We must change our approach, and yesterday. For many long years, concepts and demagoguery, supposedly liberal, have raged here, sanctifying nothing but endangering our lives in this land. Don't be blinded by the refined and morally delicate European and American nations. You don't have to be a history professor to know that this is the most hypocritical and cynical show in town. When they fought, there was nothing delicate about them, only a carnivorous lust for the flesh of their enemies. They destroyed their enemies and even enjoyed it. Unlike them, we will not derive any enjoyment from it. We will derive life, beauty, birth, culture, and Judaism. I pray for the millionth time that those called our leaders will wake up and order the IDF to release the trigger in every sense. To the command attack attack end, another command must be added; destruction destruction end! Good news and Shabbat Shalom to us all”

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32. Colonel Gur Rosenblat, head of IDF’s northern infantry brigade

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🧵Exclusive exposure: Colonel Gur Rosenblat, Israel’s edu ministry deputy director & head of IDF’s northern infantry brigade. Reveals not only extreme genocidal posts & call to randomly bomb Gaza. He also admitts that Israel are targeting “various goals vaguely related to Hamas” https://t.co/AjN63zGkfR

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33. Israeli officer Cpt. Yachiam Sharlo from the 55 brigade which fought in Gaza. “Gaza is Sodom and Gomorrah…In Gaza, there's no debate at all about whether there are righteous people in the city... So today too, this city needs to be destroyed. With fire and brimstone.” Full post on 26 of October "And the men of Sodom were exceedingly wicked and sinful unto the Lord"... That's what we read today in the daily portion. And from today, we can add to the expression Sodom and Gomorrah, the city of Gaza... Gaza is Sodom and Gomorrah. Because what happened there that justified the destruction of the city doesn't even come close in evil, in the mutilation of bodies, in kidnappings, in wickedness, in robbery, in rape, to what happened two and a half weeks ago. In Gaza, there's no debate at all about whether there are righteous people in the city... So today too, this city needs to be destroyed. With fire and brimstone. And we continue to train hard, And today we received significant reinforcement from Ezra Yachin, who came to inspire us with the spirit of the underground movements and the generation of 1948. Ezra told us that the power of fire has two roles: The first - to burn, to ignite, to use our firepower to destroy and eliminate Hamas and Hezbollah 🔥💥☄️ And afterward, its second role is to illuminate 🔦💡. To illuminate the way for the whole world 🌍, to illuminate the way for our people 🇮🇱 to believe in our unity, In the righteousness of our path. Oh, if only he were the one pressing the button and making the decisions. A 95-year-old man has been traveling for two weeks across every base in the country, lifting the spirits of the soldiers. Sometimes you need to walk a clear and determined path, Strong like a powerful fist 👊 And then to illuminate the way. Moving from today, the 15th, to the 18th day, It's hard to believe how much time has passed, And how much we miss home 🥹 And we can only wish - Am Yisrael Chai (The people of Israel live) 🇮🇱❤️

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34. Lt. Col (resv.) Avitar Elbaz, from the military rabbinate. “Destroy the enemy no matter the result, mainly to wage war and annihilate Gaza” “I don't understand the demonstrators for the hostages... such hypocrisy! If you want to reach the hostages, you need to fight relentlessly... destroy the enemy no matter the result, mainly to wage war and wipe out Gaza; the hostages are scattered. And the anarchists' demonstrations are not for the hostages... but to topple the government. Hypocrites... including the legal advisor who should be kicked out of the country. Continue bravely, IDF fighters, the nation is with you... the vocal minority is irrelevant. Gantz and Eisenkot, you are among those responsible for the 7.10 failure, you are tainted... you resigned in the midst of fighting... go home. You and your clique are responsible for the 7.10 failure... we will remind”

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35. Dor Eliav, a senior IDF lecturer, giving lectures to various IDF battalions, incl those fighting in Gaza & also established an IDF special forces unit “No innocent civilians in Gaza”, “For too long we’ve been playing games. Crush Gaza to the ground. Flatten Gaza. Were done being polite”

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36. Major. Yoel Tobiana (settler in West Bank) a commander in the IDF’s 9308 Battalion posted on Facebook advocating for starving Gaza. “We do not negotiate with Nazis! We squeeze them until they cry 'enough!' No 'humanitarian' aid to Nazis, no fuel, no electricity, a tight closure kilometer after kilometer day after day until they scream to return our captives.” Full post: The fact that seven months into the fighting there are still Hamasniks who dare to demand any sort of give-and-take negotiation with the State of Israel is a top-notch disgrace. Gaza was supposed to be, and in fact should have been today, on October 8th, so subservient, that the only negotiation that was needed to be conducted with those remaining from them, was how many days we give them to pack up before kicking them out of all 23 of the peace and prosperity states. We don't negotiate with Nazis! We press them until they cry "enough!" No humanitarian aid to Nazis, not fuel, not electricity, tight closure kilometer after kilometer, day after day, until they scream that we're taking their captives from them. Unbelievable that something so simple and basic needs to be explained in writing. Ayala wrote

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37. Sereyet Givati Officer, Shlomi Warmstein now Rafah: “we are all united as one fist for the war to destroy Gaza…there is no reason in the world to let them return.. What a beauty it will be, if we make a decision, erase, destroy and demolish all the houses in Gaza." https://t.co/LitA8X87Jl

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38. Israeli soldier Shaked Tabib who fought in Gaza “Beg for ceasefire no mercy.. no innocents in Gaza” 6 Jun - “Payback…The Gazans got what they asked for… now they're crying because they're losing the war that they started. Dont forget, no one there is innocent. …They can continue to beg for a ceasefire we no longer have mercy.”

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39. Lt. Col David Levi, Givati Brigade Clear Genocide intent calls from A-Z all types.

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🧵Dear [@CIJ_ICJ] Israeli commander Lt. Colonel David Levi, from the Givati Bigade, which is one of the brigades fighting in Gaza is genocidal. He repeatedly called to wipe out Gaza, declare that there are no innocents there, and call Arabs “sons of Satan”. See by yourself ->> https://t.co/ace4uIRTMK

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40. Lt.Col Or, Head of IDF’s 23 battalion, Carmeli Brigade. A brigade currently in Zaitoun in Gaza city: “There’s an opportunity here to do another meaningful battle for the sake of the nation of Israel.. The neighborhood we’re deploying to [Zaitoun] DOES NOT REMAIN” https://t.co/hpjh97mNDl

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41. Colonel Noam Ben-Zvi, senior commander and former head of the elite Megallan unit. Oct 10: Put in a force that will block the crossings between Egypt to Gaza, now. And anyone who tries- shall be put to death. And no food and water. Let them all eat sand. Thousands of civilians entered the [Gaza] envelope to loot and for this they will all pay Nov 4: I have no mercy for the Gazans! Not even the ones I drove to hospitals. Everyone is complicit, whether by action or inaction! with the actions of Hamas. And whoever among them doesn’t obey the army’s warnings, is responsible for their children’s lives. Mercy? Only for those murdered in the [Gaza] envelope

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42. Major. Meir Liosh, an infantry commander, ex-spox for Israel’s ministry of defence & current spox for Israel’s defence & security forum, an organization that represents 1700 high-ranking security officials ״Annhilate Gaza inch by inch”, “rivers of blood will flow Gaza” Oct 7: “Don't give us photo ops of government meetings, don't give us videos from the field, don't give us stern-faced declarations. Show us one short video of rivers of blood flowing in Gaza, not of our soldiers or civilians. Nothing more than that.” Oct 7 : “"To destroy, to kill, and to annihilate." Oct 7: “In every military operation, we think to ourselves, "Now is the time, we've paid a heavy price. Let them feel it." And each time, we are disappointed by the ceasefires. Do we need a heavier price than what it is now? Countless dead, captives, and wounded. Gaza needs to be destroyed. Inch by inch.” Oct 8: “Wipe out Gaza” Oct 11: “wipe out Gaza” Oct 14: “The goal is not to defeat Hamas. The goal is to rebuild Gush Katif thirty times over. The State of Israel cannot tolerate a Nazi terrorist state whose citizens fully identify with it—at the distance of a Nazi assault on a nature party. It is time to put an end to this—and start anew. We are returning.” Oct 22: “Only now have I understood the heavy feeling I've been carrying for two weeks. When there were attacks in Judea and Samaria, we told ourselves, "We are from Petah Tikva/Tel Aviv/Netivot/Ofaqim; it won't happen to us." Then there were bombings during the intifadas in city centers, and we told ourselves, "Home is the safest place. Who would come to us at home? We'll keep our children as close as possible." Then came Simchat Torah, and the massacre of the holy ones in the Gaza Envelope. In their homes. In the shelters. In the most protected rooms. In the cities, among the buildings and apartments. They burned the homes with the families, the babies, the elderly parents, the seniors. There's nowhere left to run. Now we need to take such strong, so brutal, so insane, so disproportionate revenge that even at the end of the world, they will fear. Everyone sitting now and in the coming years in decision-making positions, it's time to bring security back home, to the streets, to the city centers, to the restaurants, to the parks, to the schools, and to the synagogues. Through blood and sweat, a race will be established for us, proud and noble.” 9 Nov “*Trigger Warning* The testimonies about the rape and executions in the massacre of October 7 are exactly what I wrote here from the beginning—that we haven't been exposed to anything yet. There are those here who have already become desensitized from the various testimonies, moved on, said, "This was the hardest it got." No, what happened in the Gaza Envelope has never happened in the modern world. Revenge on an unprecedented scale is the only solution. Gaza needs to be destroyed.”

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43. Israeli soldier Adam Sherman, 401st brigade.

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Read carefully! “ We really are flattening Gaza… There has never been such destruction.. I am glad about it. This is more than the Nakba we "did to them" in '48.”. For every one of ours, 1000 of theirs go!!!” This is the testimony of Israeli soldier Adam Sherman from the 401st Brigade, who is currently in Rafah. Full post: “I have been on temporary leave for 4 days, now, due to the cancellation of our discharge… On Sunday, we return to do our job For four days, I have been feeling the mood that prevails in "civilian life." As someone who was there, inside, in Gaza. And not just been there, but someone moving between all the forces, because that's my role, and seeing everything from a bird's-eye view. I'm saying this here, openly: The IDF is working excellently!!! The IDF is working correctly. Working slowly. Working in an organized way. Working safely! Amazing cooperation between all the forces— infantry, engineering, armor, special forces, the navy, the air force, and many more fine ones. "What’s the problem, missing a Humvee? Go to the 601st Engineering Battalion and take one from them, they aren’t using it and have no problem giving it." Where else is it heard of, transferring equipment between corps? And we really are flattening Gaza. I know a bit of history, in all of Israel's wars, there has never been such destruction. Not Quneitra in '67, not the Dahiya quarter in 2006. Yes, yes. I'm not sorry to say it and I'm glad about it— they brought this on themselves. We are also helping them to start anew. A city of a million people, like Jerusalem, empty of people. This is more than the Nakba we "did to them" in '48. Yes, there are losses. And it hurts, but this is war. And yes, each one is a world unto himself, but this is the price we unfortunately have to pay to live safely in our neighborhood. For every one of ours, 1000 of theirs go!!! The eternal nation is not afraid of a long path. This post was written from the depth of my heart if only to raise the morale of our people. Shabbat Shalom to the whole of the nation of Israel. Am Yisrael Chai [The nation of Israel lives]!!!”

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44. Major Matan Bochner, commander (resv.) of Israel’s coast guard. “I have one message to Israeli airforce. Dracarys*” Dracarys: dragon-fire. In other words burn Gaza. https://t.co/pD8Pr6tk6b

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45. Major Dovi Yudkin, commander of the newly established DORS company, calling on killing Palestinian citizens of Israel and expelling them. Full post this month: Those who divide our enemy are those who divide us within ourselves. Hamas, Jihad, Fatah, the Arab-Israeli enemy, they all live here with one desire — to slaughter all of us, to rape our women and daughters, and to cook our children in ovens. We must wake up. The [mis]conception is now. Expulsion of the Arab enemy to Arab states. Declaration of war against all terrorist organizations. The State of Israel for the nation of Israel. Death to the murderous Arab enemy. This is what we need now, a change in perception, a change in leadership, leadership with courage, leadership with integrity, leadership with purpose and direction. The nation of Israel lives”

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46. Major Uzziel Watik, a commander in IDF’s homefront command sharing a post advocating for “Destroy Gaza.. expel Nazis..and settle there…There is one possible answer to 7.10: occupation, expulsion and settlement” https://t.co/asLaHzo3Th

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47. Brigade General Harel Knefo, head of the influence center at IDF’s southern command “Occupy Gaza. Kick out all Gazans to every possible place in the world and build a villa by the sea [in Gaza] for every family that has lost their loved ones.” Facebook 24 Oct, Top IDF official, Brigadier General Harel Knefo, currently heading the IDF's Influence Center at the Southern Command, and formerly head of the IDF's Southern Command, on his personal Facebook account.

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48. Major Udi Tene, a commander in an elite unit under Colonel Tsachi Fenton (referred to as commander No.28 in this thread), has been fighting in Gaza for several months. "No hostages, there should be no Gaza," "tear apart Gaza," "destroy Gaza now.", “200 buildings for each day hostages aren’t back” On Oct 23: More than 200 of our hostages are in Gaza. The State of Israel should simply announce that for every day the hostages do not return, 200 buildings there will be demolished. If there are no hostages, there should be no Gaza. 20 Dec destroy Gaza now. 23 Oct Let’s go! Tear apart Gaza. Three days ago, he also wrote about reserve soldier Ezrah Handir, who called for the murder of all Palestinian children, women, and their families, leaving none alive. He referred to Handir as his role model, calling him a "walking legend."

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49. Soldier Itay Matok. “In Gaza. No men. No women. But Animals”

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Israeli soldier Itay Matok from the 401st brigade currently in Rafah. “Gaza, a place where there is no man, no woman, no human being, but an animal.” Full post 10 June: "Where there is no human, be a human." How much meaning the sentence gets (he means the sentence gets so much meaning) when you are inside Gaza, a place where there is no man, no woman, no human being, but an animal. Because whoever slaughtered with such cruelty does not deserve to be a person, certainly not a human. Addressing from here to all the friends who were with me every day. You managed to bring the purity of the people of Israel to such a bad place and we were privileged to step on the place from which beasts came out to destroy us, the people of Israel”

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50. Lt. Col Aharon Weizner 28 Nov: Commenting on an article: “Something correct: North Gaza should be annexed”. Then he complained why to wait until its empty of people. 27 Oct: supporting a soldier who said: “Enough with the defense; we need to flatten Gaza and return to the original Zionism of pioneering construction. That’s how we win.” He wrote back: “This is the kind of stuff (and many others in our family) is made of – dedication to the return to Zion, to the state, and to the unity of the people of Israel”

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51. Major. Ilan Arad, a commander within the Northern Nahal Brigade and who previously served as spokesman for the Israeli Air Force “Wipe out the seed of Amalek”, “The city of Gaza, with all its houses, streets, & symbols, will be physically erased from the face of the earth”

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🧵Read this thread ! “All people of Gaza..will pay the most painful price on earth”, “Gaza will be wiped out”, “Amalek!” Major. Ilan Arad was the spox for the Israeli airforce & is currently a military commander who is fighting at the frontlines at the Northern Nahal Brigade -> https://t.co/BTwohtH0sZ

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@DrEliDavid - Dr. Eli David

Arab countries took in 5.5 million Syrian refugees. Ask yourself, why isn't any Arab country willing to take even one Palestinian “refugee”? Why has Egypt spent billions of dollars building a 7-layer wall with Gaza? 👇 What do these Arab states know about Palestinians? https://t.co/tEUnJrz8iK

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@FranceskAlbs - Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt

Israel has NO RIGHT to plan Gaza’s future. The occupation is ILLEGAL. The ICJ ordered Israel to end it, pay reparations. Instead—Israel plans the post-genocide. Unbothered. Unchecked. The world? Silent. Diplomacy has never felt so insignificant and cruel. https://www.euronews.com/2025/05/16/exclusive-israeli-proposal-details-possible-plan-to-rule-gaza-after-hamas

Exclusive: Israeli proposal details possible post-Hamas Gaza plan A document reviewed by Euronews reveals one possible avenue Israel could explore to create a new entity in Gaza post-Hamas. euronews.com
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@TCNetwork - Tucker Carlson Network

Gaza Is Being Ethnically Cleansed https://t.co/X5Er3TdabD

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The speaker claims that Israel views the October 7th attacks as an opportunity for ethnic cleansing in Gaza to solve a demographic problem. This allegation is based on data in the Israeli press, where, according to the speaker, Israelis have openly discussed this idea. The speaker states that the population of Gaza is largely composed of descendants from the 1948 ethnic cleansing, and that there was another massive ethnic cleansing after the 1967 war in the West Bank. The speaker suggests that a third attempt at ethnic cleansing in Gaza is not surprising. According to the speaker, literature on the creation of Israel thoroughly documents that ethnic cleansing was discussed by Zionists from the beginning, as it was seen as necessary to create a greater Israel. The speaker rejects the idea that Palestine was a land without people for a people without land.
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Speaker 0: So October 7 happens, and what the Israelis see is an excellent opportunity for ethnic cleansing, and they make this clear. In other words, it's an excellent opportunity to go to war in Gaza and drive the Palestinians out of Gaza and solve that demographic problem that they face. That's such a a dark thing, and therefore, that's a very strong allegation. On what basis are you making it? Oh, there's just a huge amount of data that supports this in the Israeli press. They have been perfectly willing to make this argument loudly and clearly. And you wanna remember that you had massive ethnic cleansing in 1948 when the state is created. Virtually all of those people in Gaza are descendants of the ethnic cleansing of nineteen forty kicked out of another place. And sent to Gaza. Yeah. By the way, there was another massive ethnic cleansing after the sixty seven war in the West Bank. So this is the third attempt at a massive ethnic cleansing in Gaza. So this is hardly surprising at all. And in fact, if you go back and read the literature, on the creation of Israel, this is all thoroughly documented. Ethnic cleansing was a subject that the Zionists talked about from the get go because there was no way they could create a greater Israel without doing massive ethnic cleansing. Elijah So it wasn't really a land without people for a people without land. Absolutely not.

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John Mearsheimer: What’s happening in Gaza is genocide. The United States should have nothing to do with it. (0:00) An Update on the Ukraine/Russia War (5:13) The West’s Ridiculous Russophobia (15:47) Why Do We Still Have NATO? (25:29) The Growing Threat of China and How the US Empowered Them (39:30) The US Puppet Called Zelensky (41:48) Donald Trump’s Biggest Challenges With Ending the War (48:14) Why the US Foreign Policy Establishment Is So Hawkish on Middle Eastern Wars (51:10) Why the US Puts Israel’s Interests First (56:13) The Palestinian Genocide (1:05:32) The Zionist Mission for Greater Israel (1:11:24) The Power of the Israel Lobby (1:20:53) The Attempts to Shut Down Criticism of Israel (1:32:58) Why Are Christians in the West Supporting Israel’s Killing of Christians in the Middle East? (1:38:10) The Growing Opposition Towards Israel Among Young People (1:42:45) Why Don’t We Know the Death Toll of Any of These Wars? (1:53:27) The Authoritarianism That Has Infected Israel (1:55:25) Will Israel Rebuild the Third Temple? (1:58:22) What Is Being Hidden in the 9/11, Epstein, and JFK Files? (2:01:07) The Future of the Global Stage (2:08:26) Will There Be a US/China War Over Taiwan? Includes paid partnerships.

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The speaker argues the Russia-Ukraine war is a defeat for the West, with Russia poised to win. He claims Ukraine cannot win due to imbalances in weaponry and manpower, and the West is unwilling to negotiate acceptable terms with Russia. Russia's demands include Ukraine's neutrality, demilitarization, and recognition of Russia's annexation of Crimea and four oblasts, which are unacceptable to Ukraine and the West. He asserts the West's Russophobia prevents them from acknowledging Russia's legitimate security concerns, akin to the US Monroe Doctrine. NATO expansion into Ukraine is viewed as the root cause of the conflict. He believes the US mistakenly thought it could "shove" NATO expansion "down their throat," ignoring Russia's red lines. He contends the US foreign policy establishment is incompetent and driven by emotion rather than strategic interests. He dismisses the idea that Russia poses a threat to dominate Europe, arguing their struggles in Ukraine demonstrate otherwise. He accuses the US of driving Russia into China's arms, undermining its own strategic interests in Asia. He further claims the US has a special relationship with Israel that supersedes American interests, pointing to the lack of a Palestinian state and the execution of a genocide in Gaza. He attributes this to the power of the Israel lobby, which he says controls policymakers and suppresses dissenting voices. He predicts a bleak future with increasing Israeli aggression and a growing disconnect between public opinion and US policy.
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Speaker 0: Professor, thank you for doing this. The arc of and it's not the topic of today's conversation, but the arc of your career as someone who's just watched it pretty carefully all of these years. You've wound up where I think all of us wanna be, which is universally respected regardless an oracle. It must be sort of nice to look back and be vindicated. So anyway, so I'm honored to have you. Where are we in Ukraine right now? Well, we're in deep trouble Speaker 1: if you mean The United States Yes. Speaker 0: That's right. Speaker 1: You talk about we. The fact is that the Russians are winning the war, and there's no way that Ukraine can rescue the situation. If you look at the balance of power, in terms of weaponry and in terms of manpower, the number of soldiers that each side has, the Ukrainians are in a hopeless situation. And furthermore, they're heavily dependent on the West for support, and president Trump has made it clear that he's not going to refill the Biden pipeline, once all the weaponry in that pipeline runs out. So the Ukrainians are doomed, and if you look at what's happening on the battlefield, it's quite clear that the Ukrainians understand that. Their defenses are slowly but steadily collapsing. Now one might say, well, can't we get a negotiated settlement? Can't we bring this war to an end? And the fact is that neither the Ukrainians nor the West, and here we're talking mainly about the Europeans, is willing to cut a deal that's acceptable to the Russians. So there's no way you're gonna have a diplomatic settlement to this war. It's gonna be settled on the battlefield, and the Russians are gonna win an ugly victory, and you're gonna have a frozen conflict. Speaker 0: Why can't you have a negotiated settlement? Speaker 1: Because Russia has a set of demands. There are three main demands and I'll spell them out in a second, but they are unacceptable to the Ukrainians. They're unacceptable to the West. Donald Trump may find them acceptable, but he's surrounded by people in his administration and certainly true in the American foreign policy establishment who wouldn't accept those demands. And the big three demands are number one, that Ukraine has to be a neutral state. It cannot be a NATO, and it cannot have a security guarantee from The United States or from the West more generally. So it has to be neutral. Second is that Ukraine cannot have a significant offensive military capability. Ukraine has to be demilitarized to the point where it doesn't present the threat to Russia. And then third, and maybe most important of all, the Ukrainians and the West have to accept the fact that Russia has annexed Crimea and those four oblasts in Eastern one fifth of Ukraine that they now almost occupy. So in other words, you're asking Ukraine to give up about 20% of its territory, and the Ukrainians won't do that. And they won't agree not to be in NATO, and they will not agree to disarm in some meaningful way. So there's no way you get a settlement. Speaker 0: So but there will be a settlement by your description because there will be a victory. So there will just be it's not an official settlement, but there will be a new status quo in which Russia controls a fifth of what was Ukraine, and that's just gonna happen. So why wouldn't you wanna get out of that with Speaker 1: as little destruction as possible? Well, you're gonna get an armistice in all likelihood, and this is why we say you'll have a a frozen conflict that will present all sorts of problems moving down the road. I have long argued that the Ukrainians should cut a deal now because what's gonna happen is the Russians are gonna end up taking more territory, and the Russians have made it clear that any territory they take, they'll keep. And furthermore, more Ukrainians are gonna die the longer the war goes on. So if you believe like I do and many people do that Ukraine is losing, the smart thing to do is cut a deal now and minimize your losses both in terms of territory and people killed on the battlefield. But you just can't sell that argument. And Why why can't you sell that argument? I think it's probably nationalism in the case of the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians view the Russians as existential threat, and they're willing to fight and die in huge numbers. They're willing to make incredible sacrifices to do everything they can to win this war, and they just won't quit. And in terms of the West, it's easy for the So Speaker 0: I I just wanna say I understand that and respect that. First, I think they're wrong, but I I think it's self defeating. But I certainly think it's honorable, those impulses, but I don't understand the West's stake Speaker 1: in this exactly. Well, I don't believe the West has a strategic stake in this for one second, but the Russophobia in the West is so powerful at this point in time that especially among the elites in Europe and in The United States that getting them to concede that the Russians have won this war or going to win this war is just unacceptable. Speaker 0: And have legitimate con security concerns on their border. I mean, that Speaker 1: They're not allowed. The Russians are not allowed to have legitimate security concerns in the minds of most western elites. Why? I don't know. It it befuddles me. If you look at the Russian reaction to NATO expansion into Ukraine, which I believe is the taproot of this war, it's analogous to America's Monroe Doctrine. The United States under those circumstances would allow the Soviet Union to put missiles in Cuba or to locate a naval base at Cienfuegos in Cuba. That was just unacceptable. This is what the Monroe Doctrine is all about. Yes. We'd never allow China to station military forces in Mexico or in Canada, but yet we think we have the right to move NATO far enough eastward to include Ukraine and then put NATO assets, including American military assets in Ukraine, and this is not of concern to the Russians. They shouldn't care. They should recognize that Ukraine has the right to do whatever it wants. NATO has the right to expand wherever it wants, and Russia has no say in the matter. The Russians, of course, don't accept this because they have a Monroe doctrine of their own, But we can't get it through our thick skulls that this is foolish thinking on our part and is destined to lead to trouble as it has. Speaker 0: It's it's interesting that the standard that US foreign policymakers apply to Russia is different from a standard they'd apply to any other country, including China and even North Korea. They just they don't have the same level of emotion about any other place. It's Russia, Ukraine. And I I find it baffling because on on some level, this is as you said at the outset, this is not about America's strategic interests. We don't really have many there. This is about an almost overwhelming emotional response from our leadership class to this conflict, to this region. I think it's weird. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think also at this point in time, we have convinced ourselves, both the Europeans and the Americans, that Russia is a mortal threat to dominate all of Europe. This is a ridiculous argument. Course. Think it is ridiculous? It's a ridiculous argument. As you have seen, the war started in 2022. We're well over five years into this war, and the Russians have had a very difficult time conquering the Eastern 1 Fifth of Ukraine. Just think about that. Over three plus years, they have been unable to conquer all of the territory in those four oblast that they've annexed. Please tell me how this army is gonna overrun all of Ukraine, then overrun Eastern Europe, and then overrun Western Europe. This is a laughable argument. Furthermore, if the Russians are foolish enough to try to occupy Western Ukraine, they're gonna find themselves in a quagmire. They're gonna find themselves dealing with a huge amount of resistance from all of those ethnic Ukrainians in the Western part of Ukraine who hate Russians. This is why I don't think Putin is gonna even try to conquer the western half. Much less Poland and Romania and the rest. Exactly. Their view on that, by the way, in terms of occupying Eastern Europe is we've been there, done that, and it did not work out very well. Remember, they occupied Eastern Europe roughly from 1945 to the early nineteen nineties when they pulled out after the cold war ended. They had to invade Hungary in '56. They had to invade Czechoslovakia in '68. They had to put down a major insurrection in in East Germany in 1953. They almost went into Poland three times. They had their hands full dealing with the Romanians and the Albanians Oh, yeah. And the Yugoslavs. I mean, the idea that a country like Russia is gonna, you know, invade and occupy and run the politics of countries in Eastern Europe is a remarkably foolish idea. And again, they don't even have the military capability to do that. Speaker 0: But that is the idea. And when you talk to Europeans about it, as I often do, they say that Putin's aim is to restore the Soviet empire. And he said that, and, you know, just listen to what he says. He wants Speaker 1: he pines for the Soviet era, and he wants to restore it. He's never said that. In fact, he said that, you know, he can understand why someone in his or her heart pines for the Soviet Union, but in his or her head, it makes absolutely no sense. He said that. The idea that you can recreate the Soviet Union, number one, and then two, recreate the Soviet Empire is a pipe dream. And you might not like Vladimir Putin, but he is a very smart man. He is a first class strategist and he surely understands that, you know, the idea of recreating the Soviet Union or the Soviet empire makes no sense at all. Speaker 0: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. A cliche for a reason because it's pretty good advice, but sometimes it's not true. Cell phones are a glaring exception. You've got your cell phone, you've had it for years, You don't change. Sometimes your cell phone battery life fades or maybe your processor can't keep up, but your phone is bound to run into trouble eventually no matter what the problem is. And replacing it early is much better and often far cheaper than replacing it too late. Enter PureTalk. This month, if you switch to a qualifying $35 plan, $35, PureTalk will give you a Samsung Galaxy a 36 completely free, literally free. Just $35 a month for talk, text, and data, and you get to restart your phone life cycle without paying for a brand new device. So it's a scam free deal. All on America's most dependable five g network. It's like a cell phone that works as well as any other. It's just way cheaper, and they're not scamming you. So switching is a win for everybody. You save money on your cell phone bill. PureTalk grows to hire more Americans to support more veterans, which it does. So go to puretalk.com/talker to get your free phone today. That's puretalk.com/talker to switch to our wireless company. It's America's wireless company. It's PureTalk. You spent ten years in the US military, graduated West Point during the Cold War. Yes. So your life for ten years was focused on the Soviets, of course. No question. No question. So that's ten years. That's a long time in your young life. How were you able to transition mentally from viewing Russia as an enemy to viewing them as another country? It's an interesting question. Why weren't others able to do that? Speaker 1: Well, a lot were, but a lot weren't. I think that what happened was that during the Cold War, when I started to think about The US Soviet Competition, the subject that I got interested in was the conventional balance of forces in Europe. It was the NATO Warsaw Pact balance. And I wrote my dissertation on the subject of conventional deterrence, and it focused on the NATO Warsaw Pact balance. And my argument was, which was very controversial at the time, was that the Soviets were not ten feet tall and actually if a war did break out in Central Europe, the west or NATO would do very well, that we would hold off the Soviets, that they would not win a quick and decisive victory, which is the conventional was the conventional wisdom at the time. So in a very important way, I was engaged in threat deflation. I always thought when you looked at the Soviet Union, this is during the latter part of the cold war when I was coming of age, that we greatly overestimated the threat and that the Soviet Union was not ten feet tall. So once the cold war ends and then we segue into the unipolar moment, I'm already moving in that direction. And then during the nineteen nineties, the Soviet Union, which has become Russia, is a total basket case. I mean, it's the only threat that it represents is to itself. Yes. Does it represent a threat to the West? And in fact, Tucker, NATO expansion, which really gets going in 1994, that's when Bill Clinton decides to expand NATO, It's not designed to contain Russia because there is no Russian threat. So then Putin comes to power, and what happens from about 2000 up until the present is that the West, and here we're talking about The United States as well, of course, becomes increasingly Russophobic and hostile to Putin. And I think it's in large part because Putin stands up to us. I think that we get used to the idea, certainly in the nineteen nineties, that we call the shots. It's the unipolar moment. And when we tell countries to jump, their only question is how high. And we get away with that to some extent with Putin to begin with, but then he begins to play hardball with us. And he gives a very famous speech in Munich in 2007 where he throws down the gauntlet. And from 2007 forward, relations really deteriorate. And as they deteriorate, the Russophobia comes racing to the fore and remains firmly in place today. What what is the point of NATO now? Like, why do Speaker 0: we still have NATO? What's its objective? Speaker 1: Well, I think if you asked most Europeans and even many Americans in the American foreign policy establishment, the argument would be that NATO serves as a pacifier. In other words, it keeps the peace in Europe. The United States is the most powerful state in NATO, and The United States sits on top of all the European countries. It provides security for them. It provides a nuclear umbrella for them, and that prevents the European countries from engaging in security competition with each other. So we are a pacifying force, and this is the reason that the Europeans today Speaker 0: To prevent intra European conflict? Speaker 1: European conflict. Interesting. Well, if you think about it, up until 1945 when World War two ends, he would had two world wars in the first half of the twentieth century. And then if you go back in time, European countries had been fighting against each other almost since the beginning of time. Speaker 0: Well, that's why there are so many European countries and so many languages and different distinct cultures. I mean, you might also make the argument that's why Europe was Speaker 1: so successful because they were You can certainly make that argument, and you can make the argument that that's why they were able to conquer huge chunks of the planet and create these empires because they were very good at projecting military Speaker 0: societies before they became Speaker 1: tourist destinations. Yes. But but anyway, what happens during the Cold War is the Soviets dominate one side of Europe, and we dominate the other side of Europe. And as long as those two great powers are dominating those two halves of Europe, the countries located below them cannot fight among themselves. Okay? So what happens when the Cold War ends in 1989 and then into the nineteen nineties is that we decide that we're gonna expand NATO eastward. And as I said to you, it's very important to understand that when we expand NATO eastward in the nineties and then the early two thousands, we're not aiming at containing Russia. What we're interested in do is doing is taking the pacifier, the American pacifier that sits over Western Europe and putting it over Eastern Europe and making Europe one giant zone of peace. And the Europeans liked that idea. You wanna remember after 1989, lots of Europeans were very worried about Germany, which reunified when the cold war ended. Yes. And you can understand why Europeans were very nervous. Yes. But as long as the Americans stay in Europe, as long as NATO remains intact, the pacifier is there. You know, most people don't realize this, but the Soviets and then the Russians were perfectly content to see The United States remain in Europe and for NATO to remain intact after the cold war because the Soviets slash Russians understood that we served as a pacifier. What they didn't want, and they made this very clear, was NATO expansion. And, of course, what we did starting in 1994 was to expand NATO eastward, again, to move the pacifier from over just Western Europe to over all of Europe. And that is what that is what has produced the catastrophe in Ukraine. Speaker 0: By the time NATO gets to the Baltics and then we start talking openly as the Biden administration did just openly, like at press conferences about moving NATO into Ukraine, it's very obvious that that's gonna trigger a conflict with Russia at some point. You know, how could it not? Why didn't anyone pause and say, okay. NATO's great. Obviously, there's a massive budget. We're all getting richer from NATO also. But is it well, let's balance that against, like, a a war with Russia. We don't want that. Did anyone raise that point? Couple points. Just to get Speaker 1: the dates right, the second big tranche of NATO expansion, which brings the Baltic States in, is 02/2004. Yep. The first big tranche is 1999. That's Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic, '99. Then 2004 is when the Baltic states come in. 2008 is when the critical decision is made, April 2008, to bring Ukraine into NATO. Okay? To get to the heart of your question, what's very interesting is if you go back and look at many of the planning documents from the nineties about NATO expansion, people recognize at the time that Ukraine is a special case, and it will be a huge source of trouble if we move NATO into Ukraine. So you can get away with Poland. You can even get away with the Baltic States, but Ukraine is a different matter. And it's very important to understand that we understood that from the get go. So the question then becomes what you're asking is why did we do it? Right? What's going on here? Why didn't we just back off? And I think the answer is we thought we could shove it down their throat. You wanna understand, they opposed the 99 expansion, the first tranche. We just shoved it down their throat. Speaker 0: Yeah. What's Boris Yeltsin gonna do about it? Speaker 1: That's right. That's exactly right. What's he gonna do about it? And then 02/2004, Putin's in control now. We shove it down their face, down their throat again. So in 02/2008, immediately after NATO says at the Bucharest April 2008, NATO Bucharest summit. Immediately after he says that NATO says that, Ukraine will be brought into NATO, Putin makes it manifestly clear that this is unacceptable, that this is an existential threat, and that Russia will not let it happen. And by the way, at that April 2008 NATO summit, they said they were not only gonna bring Ukraine into NATO, they're gonna bring Georgia into NATO. That's April 2008. A war breaks out in Georgia in August 2008 over this very issue. So you would expect us to back off at that point, but we don't back off. In fact, we double down. And then when the crisis first starts, this is in 02/2014, 02/22/2014, that's when the crisis starts. That's when the Russians take Crimea. This is what you understand or should understand. The Russians mean business. Do we back off? Do we try to accommodate the Russians in any way? Absolutely not. We plow forward. And then, of course, we get the war in 2022. And you ask yourself, why did we do this? And by the way, if you look at the process, the decision making process after Joe Biden moves into the White House in January 2021 January 2021, and then thirteen months later, the war breaks out. Biden makes no effort whatsoever to accommodate the Russians. So, again, the question is why? What's going on here? Yes. We're just gonna shove it down their throat. We think we're Godzilla. 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One should say to him or herself at this point, it's time to put an end to this war and accept the fact that the Russians have won an ugly victory, but we can't bring ourselves to do that. That would be showing weakness. So instead, we continue to plow on. Speaker 0: But in, you know, attempting to show strength, we reveal weakness. I mean, that's my concern is, you know, once you project force and it doesn't work, then you're revealed to the world as weak. The limits of your power are obvious to everybody. It's better to threaten than have your true power concealed. People can guess at what you can do. But now there's no guessing. We couldn't be Russia. Speaker 1: That's correct. Right. So we Speaker 0: lost a war to Russia. It's proxy war, but it was a war. And so what does that mean? Speaker 1: Well, it is a devastating defeat for NATO Yeah. Because we have invested so much in this war. Right? The other problem that we face is that The United States, and this is true of both the Biden and Trump administration, consider China to be the principal threat to The United States. China is a pure competitor. Russia is not a pure competitor. Russia is not a threat to dominate Europe. Russia is not the Soviet Union. China is a pure competitor. It's a threat to dominate Asia. And what we've been trying to do since 2011 when Hillary Clinton announced it when she was secretary of state is we've been trying to pivot to Asia. What's happened here is we've got bogged down in Ukraine, and now we're bogged down in The Middle East, and this makes it difficult to fully pivot to Asia. And this is not in the American national interest. But to make matters even worse, what we have done is we have driven the Russians into the arms of the Chinese. Yes. If you think about it, we live in a world where there are three great powers, United States, China, and Russia. If The United States views China as its principal competitor and The United States is interested in containing China in East Asia, it would make eminently good sense to have Russia on its side of the equation. Instead, what we've done with the Ukraine war is we've driven the Russians and the army, the Russians and the Chinese closer together. Speaker 0: So that's so obvious even to me, a nonspecialist, just like it's obvious. Look at a map. That it had to have been obvious to the previous administration, but they did it anyway. So you have to kind of wonder, did they want that? Speaker 1: I think you're underestimating how much strategic sense the American foreign policy establishment has. Speaker 0: So they're just so incompetent they didn't see that coming? Speaker 1: Yes. I mean, I'll take it a step further. I mean, Speaker 0: come on. Speaker 1: Let's talk about China. This is an even bigger issue. The Cold War ends, and as you well remember, at the end of the Cold War, China and The United States were basically allied together against the Soviet Union. Of course, that was the whole point. Yeah. Right. So the Soviet Union cold war ends, Soviet Union disappears, and there's no longer any need for us to have a close relationship with China. We don't need them to help contain the Soviet Union. So the question is, what do we do with the Chinese moving forward? And economically, China is a backwards country in the early nineteen nineties. What we do is we adopt a policy of engagement with China. Engagement is explicitly designed to turn China into a very wealthy country. This is a country that has over four times the population of The United States, and you're talking about making it very rich. For a realist like me, this is lunacy. You are in effect creating a peer competitor. In fact, you may be creating a country that is more powerful than The United States. But the foreign policy establishment in The United States almost to a person, including hawks like big new Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger, said that China can grow economically. We can integrate it into institutions like the World Trade Organization and so forth and so on, and it will become a democracy, and we will all live happily ever after. Right? So what we did is that we helped fuel China's phenomenal growth between 1990 and 2017 when it became a great power. You wanna remember that when the Cold War ends and then the Soviet Union collapses in December 1991, we enter the unipolar moment, which by definition means there's one great power on the planet. Yeah. That's The United States Of America. By 02/2017, there are three great powers on the planet, and one of those three great powers is a peer competitor. And we helped create that peer competitor on the foolish belief that if we turn China into a rich country, it would become a liberal democracy, and it would become a friend of The United States, and it would allow us to run international politics the way we did during unipolarity. This is a remarkably catastrophic decision. It must be strange for Speaker 0: you having spent your life in this one field, both in the military effectively and then in academia, and you've had tenure at Chicago since '82. Is that right? Speaker 1: I went to Chicago in '82. I got tenure in 1987. Speaker 0: So you've been there over forty years working on this suite of topics, this group of topics. When you look around and everybody, even the most famous people in your field, are buying into something that stupid, how does that make you feel? Brzezinski and Kissinger are saying things that are just, like, obviously dumb. That must be weird. Speaker 1: It's very weird. I remember I debated Zbig in the early two thousands at Carnegie in Washington DC on whether China could rise peacefully. And there's actually a big story in foreign policy, the magazine, that has an abbreviated transcript of our debate. And I remember Zbig was arguing that China can rise peacefully, and I was arguing that China could not rise peacefully and that our policy of engagement was foolish. And as he was speaking and I was sitting on the dais, I was saying to myself, I don't get what's going on here. Svigniew Brzezinski, who's about 10 notches to the right of me on almost all foreign policy issues, shouldn't be making this argument, but he's making this argument. Speaker 0: Yes. Speaker 1: And I'm the one who looks like a super hawk. When at the end of the cold war, I was more on the dovish side arguing the Soviets were not 10. And, of course, Big was always arguing the Soviets were ten feet tall. So it was really perplexing. 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And if you had America's corpus of structural engineers, and they also know each other, the eminent ones are friends, and all the bridges they built started to fall down, there would be an immediate reorganization of the field. You would say, this just put you know, you don't know what you're doing. Look. Look at the results. I don't understand how you could have this many decades of back to back foreign policy disasters and not have a wholesale reorganization of, like, the brain trust. Speaker 1: I agree. Let me just let me I I mean, I let me just tell you one other story. Let's go back to the nineteen nineties, talk about NATO expansion. As I said to you, the Clinton administration made the decision in '94. One might think that there was overwhelming support for NATO expansion in the foreign policy establishment. There actually was not. Bill Perry, who was Clinton's secretary of defense, was adamantly opposed to any NATO expansion and thought about resigning as secretary of defense over the issue. The chairman of the joint chiefs was opposed. Jean Kirkpatrick, Paul Nitza, George Kennan. There's a laundry list of prominent people who were opposed to NATO expansion. Anyway, the decision is made in '94, the first tranche is in 1999, and then the opposition disappears. There's no more opposition. Disappears. Disappears. And as this situation regarding NATO expansion deteriorates over time, especially once the decision is made to bring Ukraine into NATO, you would think that we would begin to do an about face that more and more people would begin to appear who make the argument that NATO expansion into Ukraine is a bad idea. Again, in the nineteen nineties, people were making that argument, but that doesn't happen at all. And I become in many ways the principal person who argues that we're responsible for the February. I wrote a piece in foreign affairs after the crisis broke out in February 2014, but there are remarkably few people who are questioning whether further, pushing down the road to bring Ukraine into NATO makes sense. Right? Speaker 0: No. They're doubling down. Speaker 1: They're doubling Speaker 0: you're getting people at the Atlantic Council say, you know what? Well, I guess we have to use nukes now. I mean, you see people get not just refused to reflect or repent, but become, like, actively crazy. Just crazy. Like, no. Tactical nukes. I mean, you know, we're not gonna win without them. People are saying Speaker 1: that, as you know. What is that? Well, it will be a devastating blow for us to lose the war in Ukraine. And when foreign policy elites get desperate, they do reckless things or they talk in reckless ways. Right. Right. This is why, by the way, the Ukraine war, even once it's settled and becomes a frozen conflict, will be so dangerous. Right? Because it the fact that it is a defeat for the West and that we have been humiliated and that we lost this major war that we were so deeply committed to will give people incentives to try to reverse the tide, to rescue the situation. And when people are desperate, they sometimes pursue very risky strategies. So once this war becomes a frozen conflict, we're gonna have to worry about it reescalating. Speaker 0: It seems very easy for, you know, a reckless government in Kyiv to provoke Moscow, basically. I mean, you've seen it, you know, sending drone swarms onto air bases or in you know, setting the Kremlin on fire, which they did and got no publicity, but they have done that. It's just it's it's this weird asymmetrical arrangement where they Ukraine actually has quite a bit of power to stoke a global conflict and incentive to do it, don't they? Speaker 1: Mhmm. That's exactly right. What they wanna do is they wanna see the war escalate because they wanna bring us in. If if the Ukrainians have any hope of rescuing the situation, it's to bring NATO into the fight. Exactly. Actually doing the fighting. And We've Speaker 0: seen this in other regions. It's it's a bad idea to get allow other countries an incentive to suck in The United States because they will. Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, you see this with the Israelis and Iran. Right? In 2024, the Israelis tried to bait us into the war, into a war against Iran on two separate occasions. And the Biden administration, much to its credit, did not take debate, but Donald Trump did take debate. Right? The Israelis have long had a deep seated interest in getting us involved against Iran because they understand they can't defeat Iran by themselves and they can do it, they think, with us. So this is analogous to the situation with regard to Ukraine. The Ukrainians, as you said, have a deep seated interest in getting us into the fight. Speaker 0: So as long as we're tied to Ukraine, if there's an implicit security guarantee, so kind of is at this point, I mean, there has been, why don't we have an interest in, like, controlling the government of Ukraine? You can't well, in other words, why do we have Zelenskyy running Ukraine, this unelected lunatic running Ukraine, when we have skin in the game? Like, why why do we allow that? Speaker 1: Well, we've been content with Zelenskyy up to now, and the Europeans love Zelenskyy. Why? He's committed to continuing the war, and he is very good at public relations in the West. He has excellent advisers. He's a former actor. He knows how to play the game. So he's good at dealing with the West, and and he does what we want. I mean, it's not like he's doing things that we don't want him to do. No. That's right. He he he is our man. And once he ceases to be our man, we'll go to great lengths to put somebody else in his place. Speaker 0: But both Europe and The United States have become poorer and weaker during the course of the Ukraine war, probably as a result of the Ukraine war. So I don't really see how we're winning. How is The US benefiting from this? How is how is Western Europe benefiting from this? Speaker 1: Well, I think that it's Europe, Western Europe in particular, that's been hurt economically Yes. By this war, not so much us. And one could argue that we've we've benefited on the margins at the expense of the European. Speaker 0: Well, the US dollar kind of is I mean, it's no it's obviously not a safe haven anymore. So, I mean, it's just a matter of time, I would say. Speaker 1: Well, the question is how much of that is due to the Ukraine war versus other American policies? Speaker 0: I'm sure that there are a million factors, but kicking Russia at a swift, just stealing the personal property of the so called oligarchs behavior, lawless crazy behavior like that sends a message to the world that, like, don't keep your wealth in dollars because it can become an instrument of war. I mean, that's my view on it anyway. Speaker 1: Yeah. There's no question about that. Yeah. There's no question about that that but we the problem is that we're now so deeply committed Yeah. That we we just can't turn the ship around. Speaker 0: Do we have any leverage at all left? Notice administration is threatening today that in twelve days we're going to do something with sanctions, then secondary sanctions against China and India if they buy Russian oil. I mean, that any of that meaningful? Speaker 1: I don't think secondary the threat of secondary sanctions is meaningful. I mean, the economic consequences for the world and for The United States would be disastrous if they actually were put into effect and worked. I think the Chinese and Indians would just blow them off at this point. Yeah. So I don't think that they'll work. We have no cards to play. If we had cards to play, Biden would have played those cards. I mean, one fundamental difference between Biden and Trump is that Biden was fully committed to the war and wanted to do everything he could to make sure The United States stayed in the game and continued to support Ukraine no matter what. Trump definitely wanted to end the war. He's been unsuccessful. He really doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't know how to end the war, but he does wanna end it. And the question you really have to ask yourself is what is he gonna put into the pipeline, the Biden pipeline once the weaponry dries up? And I don't think that Trump is gonna end up giving the Ukrainians a lot more weaponry. So I think he's gonna basically allow the Ukrainians to be defeated on the battlefield. This is gonna be a huge problem for Trump because he's gonna be blamed for losing Ukraine. The problem that Trump runs into is the same problem that Biden ran into with Afghanistan. Remember, Trump was the one who wisely decided we're getting out of Afghanistan. Yes. He was smart to do that, but it was Biden who actually took us out of Afghanistan, and that was a disaster. And he got all sorts of mud spilled on him, for taking us out of Afghanistan. Well, what's gonna happen in Ukraine at some point is the Russians are gonna win, and Trump is gonna get blamed for that. Yeah. And I think one of the reasons that Trump is so hesitant on Ukraine is not simply because he's surrounded by advisers who are super hawks Ukraine and wanna hang on to the bitter end. It's also because Trump understands that when Ukraine loses, it will be seen as having happened on his watch. No question. Yeah. No question. He he doesn't want that to happen. This is why Trump was deeply committed to negotiating a settlement. Why couldn't why didn't that work? It didn't work because Trump would have to accept Russia's three key demands that I spelled out to you at the start of the show. And those three key demands are unacceptable to almost every person in the American foreign policy establishment and almost every, foreign policy elite in Europe. Trump is an outlier on the whole issue of Ukraine. He, JD Vance, and a handful of other people, and they're not in a position to bite the bullet and say, we will accept the main Russian demands and go from there. And by the way, even if they do accept the main Russian demands, the fact is that there will be huge resistance from the foreign policy establishments on both sides of the Atlantic. Speaker 0: So sometimes when people sell products on TV, I love this product. I use this product. 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I mean, again, that just seems so totally discredited. It's like dating tips from Jeffrey Epstein. It's like, who cares what they say? Speaker 1: But I guess Well, they still wield enormous power. Speaker 0: Yeah. Apparently. This is Speaker 1: the problem that Trump faces. Right? I mean, Trump had this problem in spades the first time he was elected. Trump comes into the White House, and he has to pick advisers. But it's not like he has a large number or even a small number of foreign policy experts who share his foreign policy views. Right? Because he has to draw from the establishment. Right. So you wanna remember that Trump was very interested in improving relations with Russia and with Putin in particular the first time around, and he failed completely. Where Trump succeeded was on China. Trump abandoned engagement. We talked about engagement being a disastrous policy. Trump abandoned engagement and moved to containment in 02/2017. He ran as a candidate in 2016 explicitly against engagement, got rid of it immediately. I believe that was a smart thing to do and to pursue containment. He also, Trump, wanted to improve relations with Putin, which I think made eminently good sense. He couldn't do that in part because of Russiagate, but also because the foreign policy establishment was so committed to NATO expansion. So he failed on that count. But the problem is he was surrounded by advisers in that first administration who were all very hawkish on Ukraine and very hawkish about American foreign policy in general, very hawkish about the forever wars. Right? So So what's I Speaker 0: don't understand, since you raised it, what is the connection? The same people who are telling me we need to fight a regime change war against Iran are the same ones who are hysterical about supporting Ukraine in its and continuing our war against Russia, the Mark Levin's and and and then the smarter people, but same orientation. What do they have in common? I don't really understand. Speaker 1: Well, you have a foreign policy establishment, whether you're talking about the Republican side or you're talking about the Democratic side Mhmm. That is deeply committed to pursuing hawkish foreign policy. Speaker 0: Just for its own sake? Speaker 1: No. No. They believe that that's what's good for The United States. They believe we should spend exceedingly large amounts of money on defense, that we should be willing to use military force in a rather liberal fashion. They believe that military force can solve all sorts of problems. They believe that The United States, and this was certainly true during the unipolar moment, can use that military force to spread liberal democracy around the world. We can spread democracy at the end of a rifle barrel. This is what the Bush doctrine was all about in the Middle East. Iraq was just the first stop on the train line. Right? We were gonna do Iran, Syria, and eventually, everybody would just throw up their hands. We're gonna democratize the entire Middle East, and we were gonna use military force to do that. So we are, in a very important way, addicted to war. Now it's important to emphasize that a lot of this has to do with Israel. Right? Because Israel's supporters have a deep seated interest in making sure that The United States has a remarkably powerful military and is willing to use that military in a rather liberal fashion because they believe that if Israel ever gets into trouble and it needs help from The United States, the ideal situation is to have a US military that's like a cocked gun. And if you think about the recent war between Israel and Iran, it really wasn't just between Israel and Iran. No. It was Israel and The United States against Iran. Right? Clear clearly. Clearly. Right? And The United States had a huge number of military assets in the Middle East, right, that were there in large part to help the Israelis in their war against Iran. Well, if you think about it, it makes perfectly sense if you're a supporter of Israel to wanna make sure that The United States has a large military and that it is willing to use that military, and that if need be, it can help Israel if it gets into trouble. Speaker 0: I didn't hear any reference to American interests in that Speaker 1: description. Well, when it comes to Israel, right, and what Israel needs, right, that has little to do with American interests. Right? The truth is any two countries in the world are gonna have similar interests plus different interests. Yes. Right? So there's no question that Israel and The United States have sometimes have similar interests Yes. And sometimes have different interests. Let me give you an example of this. The United States has a vested interest in making sure Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Yes. We're against proliferation. It's in the American national interest. It's obviously in Israel's national interest for Iran not to have nuclear weapons. Right? So two states can have similar interests. In the case of Israel and The United States, they also happen to have different interests. And what we have in The United States is a situation where we have this thing called the Israel lobby, which I, of course, have written about with Steve Wald, which goes to great lengths to push The United States to support Israel unconditionally. In other words, no matter what Israel does, we are supposed to support Israel. And the lobby is so effective. It is so powerful. It is so effective that we basically end up supporting Israel unconditionally. What that means, Tucker, is in those cases where Israel's interests are not the same as America's interests, we support Israel. We support Israel's interests, not America's interests because Speaker 0: Over and against America's interests. Of course. Speaker 1: Because the interests clash in those specific instances. Speaker 0: Right. Which is, as you noted at the outset, just the nature of sovereign countries doing business with each other. You're going agree on some things and disagree on others. Absolutely. But can you think of any moment in the last, say, forty years where there was that clash between non converging interests where The United States chose its own interests over Israel's interests? Speaker 1: No. No. I can't think of anything that fits that description. I mean, one could argue that Israel wanted us to fight against Iran in 2024, that they tried to to bait us into attacking Iran in April and then in July. And as I said before, the Biden administration did not take the bait. Speaker 0: Can you think conversely of instances where the US government chose the interests of a foreign power over and against its own interests and its people's interests? Speaker 1: Besides the Israeli case? No. No. Speaker 0: In the case of Israel. You know, we're allied with Israel informally, and, you know, they want us to do something that is hurtful to us, does not help our interest at all, but we do it anyway. Can you think of examples of that? Speaker 1: Two state solution is the best example. Every American president since at least Jimmy Carter has pushed forcefully for creating a Palestinian state. We have long believed that the best solution to the Palestinian problem, which is the taproot of so many other problems that we face in The Middle East, is to create two states. So every president has pushed hard except for maybe Donald Trump for a two state solution in The Middle East. The Israelis have rebuffed us at every turn, and the the end result is we now have a greater Israel, and there's no possibility of a two state solution. Speaker 0: How does it hurt The United States not having a Palestinian state? Why is it in our our interest? Why is every president push for that? Speaker 1: Because The United States has a vested interest in having peace in The Middle East. It's not in our interest to have wars in that region. First of all, it forces us to commit military forces. It forces us to fight wars, and that's not in our interest. And we have long felt from a strategic point of view that what you wanna do is make sure you have peace in that region. You wanna remember right before October 7, Jake Sullivan, was then the national security adviser, was crowing about the fact that we had not seen the Middle East so peaceful in a long period of time. Yeah. He understood full well that this is in our interest. Well, if you compare the world, you know, on 10/06/2023 with the world, that exists in The Middle East today, we are much worse off today. This is not in our interest, and this is in large part because of Israel. And this is just a strategic dimension. We're not even talking about the moral dimension. I mean, the Israelis are executing a genocide in Gaza, and we are complicitous in that genocide. Speaker 0: When you say it's a genocide, what what do you mean? Speaker 1: Well, if you look at what the definition of a genocide is, right, it's where one country tries to destroy either all or a substantial portion of another group, another ethnic or religious or national group for the purposes of basically destroying that group identity. That's what you're talking about here. I think that that's the definition of of genocide. It's laid out in the 1948 convention. I think that what the Israelis are doing fits that description, and lots of people and organizations agree with me on that point. It's very important to understand here that just killing large numbers of Palestinians is not necessarily genocide. I mean, The United States, it firebombed Japan in World War two, killed many more Japanese than the Israelis have killed Palestinians in Gaza. There's no question about that. But no one would ever accuse The United States of executing a genocide against Japan. The United States was killing large numbers of Japanese civilians, and by the way, we killed large numbers of German civilians as well. Millions. Yeah. For purposes of ending the war. We wanted to end the war. And if you look at how we treated the Japanese and how we treated the Germans once the war ended, it was very clear that we were not bent on genocide. This is not to excuse what we did against Japan and Germany, and I do believe we murdered. I would use the word murdered large numbers or millions of Japanese and Germans together. But in the case of what's going on in Gaza, right, what's happening here is that the Israelis are systematically trying to destroy the Palestinians as a national group. Right? They're they're targeting them as Palestinians and they're trying to destroy Palestinian national identity in addition to murdering huge numbers of Palestinians. Speaker 0: And I mean, it's not just a rage reflex. This is a strategy, of course, two and a half years later, almost three years later. What is the strategy? What's what's the the goal of this? Speaker 1: My view on this is that the Israelis have long been interested in expelling the Palestinian population from Greater Israel. If you look at Greater Israel, this include includes the Israel that was created in 1948 and the occupied plus the occupied territories. This is the West Bank. Speaker 0: Post sixty seven. Speaker 1: Post sixty seven. West Bank and Gaza. So West Bank West Bank, Gaza, and what we call Green Line Israel. That's Greater Israel. Inside Greater Israel, there are about 7,300,000 Jews and about 7,300,000 Palestinians. And from the get go, going back to the early days of Zionism and the views of people like David Ben Gurion, they believed that you needed a Jewish state that was about 80% Jewish and 20% Palestinian. In an ideal world, you would get rid of all the Palestinians, but the least bad alternative is eighty twenty. But you actually have a situation in Greater Israel where you have fifty fifty. So October 7 happens, and what the Israelis see is an excellent opportunity for ethnic cleansing, and they make this clear. In other words, it's an excellent opportunity to go to war in Gaza and drive the Palestinians out of Gaza and solve that demographic problem that they face. Speaker 0: That's such a a dark thing, and therefore, that's a very strong allegation. On what basis are you making it? Speaker 1: Oh, there's just a huge amount of data that supports this in the Israeli press. They have they have been perfectly willing to make this argument loudly and clearly. The issue of genocide, which I'll get to in a second, is a different issue. I'm separating ethnic cleansing from genocide. So what happens after October 7 is that the Israelis see an opportunity to drive Palestinians out of Gaza. And you wanna remember that you had massive ethnic cleansing in 1948 when the state is created. Virtually all of those people in Gaza are descendants of the ethnic cleansing of nineteen forty eight. Speaker 0: Kicked out of another place. Speaker 1: And sent to Gaza. Yeah. And by the way, there was another massive ethnic cleansing after the sixty seven war in the West Bank. So this is the third attempt at a massive ethnic cleansing in Gaza. So this is hardly surprising at all. And in fact, if you go back and read the literature, on the creation of Israel, this is all thoroughly documented. Ethnic cleansing was a subject that the Zionists talked about from the get go, and they talked about extensively because there was no way they could create a greater Israel without doing massive ethnic cleansing. You wanna remember that when the Zionists come to Israel starting late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, there are remarkably few Jews in Palestine, and those Jews are not Zionists. The Zionists are the Jews who come from Europe. Right. And they understand that they're moving into a territory that's filled with Palestinian villages and Palestinian people. And the question you have to ask yourself is, how can you create a Jewish state on a piece of territory that's filled with Palestinians without doing ethnic cleansing, massive ethnic cleansing? And the answer is you can't. So they're talking about and thinking about ethnic cleansing from the get go. So the idea that they wouldn't think of what the situation looks like after October 7 is an opportunity to do ethnic cleansing. You know, it belies Speaker 0: So it wasn't really a land without people for a people without land. Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And and David Ben Gurion, Vladimir Jabotinsky, all these key Zionist leaders understood that full well, and they understood that they were going to have to do horrible things to the Palestinians. They understood that, and they were explicit in saying that they did not blame the Palestinians one second for resisting what the Jews from Europe were going to do to them. They fully understood that they were stealing their land, and they fully understood that it made perfect sense for the Palestinians to resist, which of course they did. But anyway, just to fast forward to October 7. What happens after October 7 is that the Israelis see an excellent opportunity to ethically cleanse the Palestinians in Gaza. You have about 2,300,000 Palestinians in Gaza. Just to be clear, you have about 2,300,000 Palestinians in Gaza, about 3,200,000 in West Bank. West Bank, and about 1.8 in grade in Green Line Israel. Okay? So this is an opportunity to get rid of those Palestinians. And the way to do it is to turn the IDF, the Israeli military loose, and let them tear the place apart. And the idea is that that will just drive the Palestinians out. But the problem that the Israelis face is the Palestinians don't leave. Both the Egyptians and the Jordanians, which are the two countries that the Israelis would like to drive the Palestinians into, make it, you know, unequivocally clear that that's not gonna happen. Jordan is just a giant refugee camp already It already is. Speaker 0: From all these other wars that have been inspired for the same reason. So I mean, I think Jordan is what percentage Jordanian is Jordan? I mean, tiny percentage Jordanian. Speaker 1: It's definitely less than 50%. Speaker 0: Way less. Way less. Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. And Egypt has a 100,000,000 people already. So But here's what happens, Tucker. And I think it makes sense if you listen to the logic. They start with the goal of ethnic cleansing. They I don't believe they wanna murder all of the Palestinians in Gaza. They just simply want to drive them out. But the problem is they don't leave. And then the question is, what do you do? And what they do is they continue to up the attacks, increase the attacks, kill more and more people in the hope that they will drive them out. And I'm sorry. Speaker 0: I should have asked this. Why do they want Gaza in the first place? It seems a lot of trouble killing all these people committing, you know, atrocities on camera. I mean, the press are barred, but we're still getting a lot of video out of the area. That's a big hit. Why do you why would you be willing to go through all of that to get Gaza? Why do they want it? Speaker 1: Well, the Zionists from the beginning have wanted a greater Israel. And David Ben Gurion wrote a piece in 1918, and David Ben Gurion, of course, is the founding father of Israel. Yes. Wrote a piece in 1918. I don't think it's ever been published in English. It's just in Yiddish where he describes what his goals are for a greater Israel. Right? And it obviously includes Green Line Israel, Gaza, the West Bank, it includes parts of the East Bank, it includes parts of Southern Syria, It includes parts of Southern Lebanon, and it includes the Sinai Peninsula. Just think about that. That was Ben Gurion's vision. And this was a vision that was shared by almost all the early Zionist leaders, and there are still many people in Israel who are in favor of a greater Israel. They don't want a tiny Israel. The Israel that was created in 1948 is a tiny state. Yes. Even with Gaza and the West Bank, it's quite small. It's a postage stamp like state. Right? They want more territory, and they believe they have a historical right to that territory. Israel has never said these are our final borders. What are Israel's final borders? They've never been articulated. And the reason is the Israelis don't wanna say out loud. The early Zionists did not say out loud what their intentions were. David Ben Gurion didn't get up on a soapbox and say, we are going to create a greater Israel and it's going to include Southern Lebanon, Southern Syria, the occupied territories, Green Line Israel, the Sinai, and so forth and so on. Speaker 0: It's just a little I mean, irony doesn't isn't powerful enough a word. I can't think of one. It's odd that the very same people who are saying we need to consider tactical nukes in order to preserve the territorial integrity of the sovereign nation Ukraine because national borders are sacrosanct, you know, that's our our sacred norms are violated when those borders are violated, are saying it's totally okay for this one country to, like, take over other countries. Speaker 1: But this gets back to my point to you. Right? We yes. We I agree completely. We support Israel unconditionally. Right? In other words, whatever Israel does, especially vis a vis the Palestinians, The United States backs them to the hilt. And the fact that they're changing borders I mean, I look at what they're doing in Lebanon and Syria, and you would think that The United States would have a vested interest in trying to put pressure on the Israelis to stop causing murder and mayhem in Lebanon and in Syria, but we do hardly anything at Speaker 0: all. And those are real countries. Those are ancient countries and beautiful beautiful countries with sophisticated, intelligent people and, like, that the roots of Christianity are there. And, like, it's not in other words, I mean, there's a sense if you're fighting over Sinai or something, it's one thing. But, like, Lebanon? I mean, that's like one of the great countries in the world. Syria, same thing. And they're being destroyed. I don't understand why people allow that to happen. Speaker 1: Well, let me explain to you what Israel's goal is here. First of all, Israel's goal is to create Laban's realm. That's what I was describing to you when I said what Ben Gurion's vision was regarding borders. Speaker 0: So Could you define the word? Speaker 1: Lebensraum means living room. You you want you want a big country. You want lots of space Yes. For your people. Yes. Strategic depth. Strategic depth. Yeah. And so that's one goal. The second goal that the Israelis have is they wanna make sure that their neighbors are weak, and that means breaking them apart if you can, right, and keeping them broken. So the Israelis were thrilled that mainly The United States and the Turks broke apart Syria. One could argue that Syria was even broken before Assad fell, but the Israelis want Syria to be a fractured state. They want Lebanon to be a fractured state. What they want in Iran, you know, we talk about the nuclear program, the nuclear enrichment program, and the argument is sometimes made that the principal goal, the only goal is to go in and and eliminate their nuclear capability. That's a lie. Well, it's just part of the story. You could call it a lie. What what the Israelis wanna do is they wanna break Iran apart. They wanna make it look like Syria. Right? You want neighbors that are not powerful. You want them to be fractured. Jordan and Egypt, they have a different solution there. And what's happened is because those countries are economically backwards, The United States gives them huge amounts of economic aid. I've noticed. Yep. And and that's done for a purpose. And anytime the Egyptians And what's the purpose? Because anytime the Egyptians or the Jordanians get uppity about Israel, The United States reminds them, you better behave yourself because we have huge economic leverage over you. You have to be friendly to Israel. So Jordan and Egypt never caused the Israelis any problem. Speaker 0: It sounds like our entire foreign policy, at least in Speaker 1: the Western Hemisphere, is based on this one country. Well, I would say in The Middle East Well, yeah. In The Middle East, there is no question People now call it West Asia, I believe. I call it The Middle East. In The Middle East, our policy is profoundly influenced by Israel. We give as I said to you before, we have a special relationship with Israel that has no parallel in recorded history. It's very important to understand it. There is no single case in recorded history that comes even close to looking like the relationship that we have with Israel. Because, again, as I said, states sometimes have similar interests, and this includes The United States and Israel Speaker 0: For sure. Speaker 1: But they also have conflicting interests. And when a great power like The United States has conflicting interests with another country, it almost always, except in the case of Israel, acts in terms of its own interests. America first. But when it comes to Israel, it's Israel first. And if you go to the Middle East and look at our policy there, there's just abundant evidence to support that. So then the question Speaker 0: I mean, there's so many questions, but the question is why? Like, what is that? And it's I think it's really causing serious problems in the current ruling coalition because it's the contradiction is too obvious. It's not America first, and people can see that because it's so so evident. But what are the causes of it? Like, why would, for the first time, as you said in recorded history, a nation spend, you know, whatever it is, a trillion dollars a year in effect to serve the interest of another country. Speaker 1: Like, why? Well, I believe there's one simple answer, the Israel Lobby. Think the lobby is an incredibly powerful interest group, and I'm choosing my words carefully. It has awesome power and it basically is in a position where it can profoundly influence US foreign policy in The Middle East, and indeed it affects foreign policy outside of the Middle East. But when it comes to the Middle East, and again, the Palestinian issue in particular, it it has awesome power, and there's no president who is willing to buck the lobby. Speaker 0: What sort of power is it? Because it's not it's not rhetorical. It's not, You know, the most powerful movements in history are fueled by an idea that's usually The most powerful are fueled by an idea that it's like true. Right? But I never hear anybody make a detailed case for why The United States benefits from the current arrangement. Never. No one. Ever. Nikki Haley came as close as anyone by saying The United States gets a lot more out of the relationship than Israel does, but they never explained how exactly that works. So it's not a matter of, like, convincing people clearly. So what is it a matter of? Where does that power come from? Speaker 1: Well, let me put this in a broader context. I think that in the past, when I was younger, the lobby operated on two levels. One was the policy level, and two was the popular discourse. Yes. And I think in terms of the popular discourse for a long long time. Right? And and this would be well into the two thousands. The Israel lobby the Israel lobby basically influenced the discourse in ways that made the Israelis look like the good guys, and it make it look like every time The United States supported Israel, it was because it was in our national interest. Right? So the discourse was not at odds with what was happening at the policy level. Right. Now the situation you described, which I think is perfect description of the situation that we face today, is that the lobby has lost control of the discourse, and people now understand that The United States is doing things for Israel that are not in the American national interest. Furthermore, they see the lobby out in the open engaging in smash mouth politics. People are now fully aware that there is a lobby out there, that it's trying to control the discourse, and in fact, it basically does control maybe that's a bit too strong a word, but it's close. It basically does control the policymakers. So now you have this real disconnect. Speaker 0: Controls the policymakers. I mean, we just that's demonstrable. You know? Yeah. Speaker 1: I think. It's measurable. Yeah. So Yes. But you so you have what you were describing is the disconnect between the discourse and the policy world that now exists. But what I'm saying to you is you wanna remember that the lobby was immensely successful for a long period of time because the disc the discourse and the policy process looked like they were in sync. Speaker 0: So successful that just basic historical facts about the creation of this nation state in 1948 are, like unknown to people, and it's shocking to hear them. And you think, well, that can't be right. That's like so far from what I heard as a child that that's obvious. What? All the Christians were kicked out? All these Christians were kicked out of their historic homelands there, and of course, many more Muslims. And did that really happen? I mean, people just have no idea what the facts are. It's kind of interesting. Speaker 1: Yes. Well, the lobby went to great lengths to make sure that you didn't know the facts. Speaker 0: And anyone who said the facts out loud was a lunatic or a jihadist or or a, you know, hater of some kind. Speaker 1: An anti Semite. Yeah. Self hating Jews. You know, it's very interesting. I often think about my own evolution in this regard. When I grew up as a kid, I was heavily influenced by Leon Urus's book, Exodus and the subsequent movie with I think Paul Newman and Eva Marie Saint. And that, of course, that exodus story portrayed the Israelis in the most favorable light and the Arabs or Palestinians in the most negative light. So for much of my life, you know, up until the late eighties, early nineties, I thought the Israelis were without a doubt the good guys up against the bad guys, and it was really David versus Goliath as well. And the Israelis were David up against an Arab Goliath. That was the picture I had in my head. But then in the late eighties, early nineties, a group of historians in Israel called the New Historians came on the scene. Speaker 0: Benny Morris. Speaker 1: Benny Morris, Avi Schleim Yeah. Ilan Povet. Speaker 0: Some of Speaker 1: them were amazing. Amazing. Speaker 0: Yeah. I agree. Speaker 1: And and what they did was they had access to the archives. Yes. And they told the real story. Speaker 0: And that was a moment where I think the country felt Israel felt confident enough to allow that conversation internally and that honesty. Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. The lobby had been so successful. Israel had been so successful. Speaker 0: Yes. I went there. I was amazed. What a beautiful place. Great people. It was great. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. They thought they controlled they had things under control. They did? That's right. And that they could allow these historians to tell the truth. Now I believe they could have gotten away with it if they had stopped expanding or if they had agreed to a two state solution. The problem is that after the early nineteen nineties when this literature came out, the Israelis continued to act in barbaric ways towards the Palestinians. And Well, Speaker 0: they had a prime minister who tried to reverse the trend and then because he was shot to death. Speaker 1: He was moving in that direction. I think there were a number of Israeli leaders who understood that the course that Israel was on was unsustainable. Speaker 0: Oh, you often heard them say that. Yeah. When a robust debate within the country about this. Speaker 1: Well, whether they would have agreed to a Palestinian state ultimately is an open question, but the fact is Rabin was killed. Ehud Barak who made moves towards a two state solution ultimately couldn't pull it off, and we are where we are today. And the problem is that something else occurred in the late nineties, early two thousands, which fundamentally affected Israel's position and that's the Internet. Because once you get the Internet and once you get social media and the mainstream media is not the sole source of information on these issues, The story about the real creation of Israel and what Israel is doing today is available to the vast majority. It's shocking Speaker 0: to people. So you have to shut down the Internet. You can't allow that. Speaker 1: Yeah. You can try to shut down the Internet, but, you know, there are limits to what you can do. Speaker 0: But it does seem like so you you were describing the two separate tiers, the policy and the discourse about the policy, and that one remains basically the same, but the other has changed just so radically, so radically and so fast that it's going off in some dark directions that I just want to say on the record I totally disapprove of. I don't think you should hate anybody, period, especially groups of people. It's immoral, and I mean it. But that's happened because there's been just like an avalanche of new information, a lot of which is totally real. People haven't seen it before, and their minds are exploding. And so public opinion is moving so radically in the other direction. I feel it all around me. Do you feel this? Of course. Yeah. And your life, I mean, I should say, for people who aren't familiar with your background, you wrote a book with Stephen Walt of Harvard. You're at the University of Chicago, so both of you are have tenure or famous in your world. You're not crazy. And you write this book in 02/2007, and both of you are immediately attacked in, like, pretty shocking ways. Also defended by some of your colleagues, but but really maligned for it. And now eighteen years later, people are saying, that Mearsheimer guy, actually, he was kind of right about everything. So that's a reflection, I think, of the change in public opinion. But that's not sustainable. You can't have, in a democracy, policy that's a 180 degrees from public opinion over time. That just doesn't work. So you have to either change the policy or change public opinion. And no one's even making any attempt at all to change public opinion through good faith argument, through like, hey, I know you think this, but you're wrong, and here's why. There's zero. None. It's shut up, Nazi. Okay? And that's not working. So I really think the only option is to stop the conversation. Or maybe I'm missing something. Like censorship is the only option if you wanna maintain status quo. Speaker 1: Well, there's no question that they're trying to stop the conversation. Speaker 0: Yes. Speaker 1: No question. I mean, they went to great lengths to shut down TikTok, and the evidence is that the lobby played a key role. Speaker 0: Just banning one of the world's biggest social media apps because it says things you don't like? Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is the way they've always behaved. The lobby's always behaved this way. And, I mean, this is what happened to me and Steve. You know, we originally wrote an article, and we at one point thought the article would never be published. After we wrote the article and we went through all sorts of interactions with the Atlantic Monthly that had commissioned the article, we put the article in the back closet and just Speaker 0: So you were to write a piece about the influence of a foreign lobby, the Israeli lobby Israel lobby. In Washington, which is one of many foreign lobbies in Washington, but is by far the most effective and the biggest. And you write the piece, and they didn't run it? Speaker 1: Yeah. Why? Because they got cold feet. I mean, what invariably happens in these cases is that down at the lower levels of a journal or or a newspaper, people will be interested in somebody writing something on Israel lobby or writing a piece that's critical of Israel, but then as it filters up the chain of command and people at the top see it, they kill it. Right? And And that happened to you? Oh, that's definitely what happened at the lobby at the Atlantic Monthly. They killed it. And then Steve and I went to Princeton University Press and a handful of other journals and asked if they would be interested in either the article or turning the article into a book. And in all those cases, everybody at first exudes enthusiasm. They think it's a it's a great topic. Something needs to be written on it, which, of course, is true. But then they think about it for a month and you get a callback, and they've lost interest. So Steve and I actually put the the articles I said in that closet and just said What's wild Speaker 0: is you're both at this point very well known your can you explain who Steve is to your coauthor? Speaker 1: Yeah. Steve is a chaired professor at Harvard University. And at the time that we wrote the lobby article, he was the academic dean at the Kennedy School. Okay. Speaker 0: So I just I'm sure a lot people already know that, but I just wanna make it totally clear. You're not two random guys on the Internet who are like antisemites or something at all. You're like the some of the most famous people in your field, and you're totally moderate. I don't even know what your politics are, but you're not a political activist at all. Speaker 1: No. As I and I as I used to like to say, if Adolf Hitler were alive, he would have thrown Steve's wife and his two children in a gas chamber. Speaker 0: Exactly. Speaker 1: Mean, the idea that we're antisemites, I mean, is a laughable argument. We're both first order filo Semites. I mean, I can't prove that, but it's true in my humble opinion. But, anyway, we we were certainly, you know, at the top of our academic disciplines and highly respected, which is not to say people didn't disagree with what we wrote. Speaker 0: But you weren't crackpots at all. Speaker 1: And and the other thing is I wanna make it clear that we worked very carefully with the Atlantic to get our final draft draft up to their standards. Right? We did what they wanted. And, and you also wanna remember that Steve and I are both excellent writers. Many academics cannot write clearly. Whatever you think of the substance of our views, there's no doubt there were two of the best writers in the business. And it's the two of us working with the editors, at the lower rungs of the Atlantic Monthly that produced what I thought was an excellent article. But, anyway, it was killed there, and we couldn't get it published. Kinda proven your point. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. And, by the way, I probably shouldn't tell this story, but I'll tell you. We told the editor at the Atlantic as we were going through the process that we thought he was getting cold feet, and he was quite offended by that. And he said to us, just to prove that that wasn't true, he would give us a $10,000 kill fee. That means if they didn't take the article, they'd give us $10,000. So I said to Steve, I remember it very well, that's the fastest $10,000 we ever made. He said, oh, John, you're being too cynical. Anyway, we collected the 10,000 paid you? Yes. Yes. I mean but what what he did How ashamed was he when he because I'm not gonna name him. Speaker 0: I know the editor. This is a pretty well known editor who's just been in magazine journalism for decades and, you know, has a high regard for himself and good reputation and all this stuff. And he's told from somebody else who's more powerful than he is, you can't do this. How embarrassed was he in that conversation? Speaker 1: I had no evidence that he was embarrassed. Speaker 0: Oh, so he has no soul. Speaker 1: Okay. No. I I mean, who knows, you know, what kind of face he had to put on things. I I don't know what happened inside the Atlantic. I've never been told. But but, again, he said he'd give us a $10,000 kill fee because he thought the peace was gonna go forward. And somebody sat on him and told him that that was not gonna happen. I I don't know what happened, but I don't wanna be too harsh on him because this is the norm. Yeah. That this was the norm. Speaker 0: And he didn't own the magazine. Speaker 1: And so what we did was we put it in the back closet. And and I remember Steve and I had a a conversation, and I think Steve said to me, this is why we have tenure so that you can spend two years of your life Exactly. Writing something that never gets published, and you're not punished in terms of promotion to tenure. Right? But anyway, what then happened is that somebody inside the Atlantic who was actually involved in the original commissioning of the article gave a copy to a very prominent academic who had who had contacts close contacts at the London Review of Books. And that academic who I knew very well sent me a note and said that Mary Kay Wilmers he said, I got a hold of your manuscript, and I sent it to Mary Kay Wilmers at the London Review of Books, and she'd be very interested in publishing it. And so I then I remember I was in Heidelberg, Germany. I called it Mary Kay, and she published it thankfully. Speaker 0: It was like a bomb went off. I'll I'll remember that. I remember that so rapidly. So the piece the Atlantic killed comes out in the London Review of Books. What's the thesis of the piece if you could just sum it up for people who didn't read it? Speaker 1: Well, the argument basically has four parts to it. The first says that The United States has this special relationship with Israel. It's unparalleled in history. We give Israel unconditional support, huge amounts of military and economic aid. That's the first part. Then the second part says it's not for strategic reasons that we do this. Then the third part is Speaker 0: Not It's can you explain what Speaker 1: that means? Speaker 0: Not for Speaker 1: It's not in the American national interest. In in other words, from a geopolitical point of view. Right? Because Israel and The United States sometime have different interests, it makes no sense for us to support Israel unconditionally. We should support Israel when its interests reflect our interests, but otherwise not. But that's not the case. So that's another way of saying what we're doing is not in our strategic interest. Okay? Third part is it's not in our moral interest because when you look at what the Israelis are doing to Palestinians, this violates basic American precepts, liberal precepts. Right? So from a moral point of view, what's happening in Israel doesn't make sense. So then the fourth part deals with the question of why we do this. Right. Fair. Fair question. Right. If we don't do it for strategic reasons, we don't do it for moral reasons, why do we do it? And the answer is the lobby. So that's the story, the lobby. Speaker 0: Does and the the lobby is a is a very large complex informal organization of which APAC is a part, but not the total. Absolutely. And then you describe how that works. Speaker 1: Yeah. It's very important to emphasize. It's a loose coalition of individuals and organizations like APAC, the Anti Defamation League, and so forth and so on that, work overtime to support Israel. Loosely coordinated. I think your description was right on the money. Very important to understand, it is not a Jewish lobby, and it is not a Jewish lobby because many Jews don't care much about Israel, and many Jews are opposed to what Israel or the Israel lobby is doing. Speaker 0: Including many religious Jews, Torah Jews, sincere sincerely Jewish Jews disagree. I know some, so I know. Speaker 1: Absolutely. There there are a large number of Jews who are anti Zionists. I'm aware. Right? So so you're exactly right. So it's not a Jewish lobby for that reason, but also there are the Christian Zionists Speaker 0: Yes. Speaker 1: Who are a core element of that lobby. I've noticed. You know, Christians United for Israel, for example. So that's why we call it the Israel lobby. Speaker 0: And what explains the enthusiasm of Christian groups for policies that kill Christians in the Middle East? Speaker 1: Well, they have this belief that until Israel controls, all of greater Israel. Right? It gets back all the territory, that is rightfully theirs, you won't have the second coming. So they are deeply committed, these Christian Zionists, to supporting Israel's conquest and supporting Israeli expansion for religious reasons. Speaker 0: And are there defined borders that when reached will trigger the second coming? Speaker 1: No. No. Do when we Speaker 0: say Greater Israel, do we have a clear map in mind of what that will mean? No. Could mean? No. Speaker 1: No. Whenever you talk about Greater Israel, there's hardly ever a real map in mind. I talk about it in terms of the occupied territories plus green line Israel. But obviously, the Israelis themselves, most Israelis, I think, have a bigger map in mind. Do we Speaker 0: know where that ends? I mean, doesn't go to Cairo, I assume. Speaker 1: No. No. I think the Sinai what they take of Egypt, I think, will if they can, will be the Sinai. And I don't think they would take all of Syria or all of Lebanon, but they would take big chunks of the South of those two countries. But but but the idea behind the Christian Zion is is that to facilitate the second coming, you know, for religious reasons, we should support Israel. But this does, as you say, cut against the fact that the Israelis oftentimes treat Christians as badly as they do Muslims. There was recently a case where they bombed Catholic church in Northern Gaza, and Trump was infuriated when he heard this and he called up Netanyahu and told him this is recently, like within the past two weeks, told Netanyahu that he had to apologize. And the pope even spoke out on this. But even there, the criticism is quite muted because, again, hardly anybody in the West really criticizes Israel in a meaningful way. Speaker 0: It is just a little bit odd that you could on Christian ground support the bombing of a Christian church. I mean, there are lots of theological differences between sex and Christianity, but if you're getting to the point like where Mike Johnson, the speaker of the house is, where you think Jesus is commanding you to support the murder of Christians, you don't need to be like a theologian to think maybe I've gone off course. Speaker 1: No? Yeah. You're not gonna get any argument from me on that. Yeah. Speaker 0: So where does it go from here now that things that you know, everyone was afraid to talk about any of this to the extent that people understood it because they don't want be called names, and because those names are It's horrible to be called that, and it's almost Sometimes it's true, but for most people it's not true at all. They're not hateful. That's not why they have these views. So once those slurs lose their power, as I think they quickly are, in the same way the word racist lost its power from overuse, like, where are we? What where do we what happens next? Speaker 1: It's hard to tell a happy story, but here's how I think about it. The first question you wanna ask yourself is what are the Israelis likely to do moving forward? In other words, if the Israelis all of a sudden got reasonable, a lot of these problems would go away. But there is no sign the Israelis are gonna get more reasonable. If anything, the political center of gravity is moving further and further to the right in Israel as the years go by. So Israeli behavior in The Middle East, if anything, is likely to be even more aggressive and more offensive to people around the world. So what does that mean here in The United States? It means that the lobby is gonna have to work even harder than it's now working. And again, you wanna remember the lobby is now out in the open and it's engaging in smash mouth politics, but it's gonna have to work harder. Now you say to Speaker 0: yourself Most vicious people I've ever dealt with ever. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Anybody who's dealt with them, and I've dealt with them for longer than you have, understands full well what you're talking about. But see, here's the problem, Tucker. The problem is that support among younger people for Israel is much weaker than it is among older people. People including Jews. Including Jews. Yes. Yes. Very important to emphasize that. Very important. So the problem is that inside of American society, you're moving towards a situation where increasing numbers of people in the body politic are critical of Israel, extremely critical of Israel because older people are dying off, and those younger people are turning into older people. So the body populace in The United States is going to be more critical of Israel over time, not less critical. At the same time, Israel continues to behave that way. And the question is, how long can we go on with the lobby operating out in the open and engaging in smash mouth politics? I Speaker 0: Attacking Americans in the most vicious way who have no animus toward anyone, but just wanna help their own country, they're somehow criminals? Like that can't go on long. That's too stupid to work over time. No? Speaker 1: I agree. Look at what's happening on campuses. Right? Here you have these students out there protesting, protesting a genocide. Right? Many of the students who are out there protesting are Jewish. This cannot be emphasized enough. Many of them are Jewish. And all of a sudden, they're turned into raving antisemites. This is all about antisemitism. It has nothing to do with the genocide that's taking place in Palestine. This is crazy. Right? And and I talked to people on campuses. Everybody understands this. Everybody understands that this has nothing to do with antisemitism. I've been in academia for decades. I've been at the University of Chicago for forty four years. Before October 7, nobody at Chicago or Harvard talked about an antisemitism problem. It was just unheard of. Huge numbers of administrators, including provosts and presidents, were Jewish. Huge numbers of deans and faculty members were Jewish. Huge numbers of students, graduate and undergraduate, were Jewish. This is a wonderful thing. Nobody was ever critical of it. Was there an antisemitism problem? I never heard about it, and I don't know anybody who was talking about it. But all of a sudden, after October 7, what we discover is that these college campuses are hotbeds of antisemitism. This makes no sense at all because, of course, they were not hotbeds of antisemitism. What they were were hotbeds of criticism of Israel and what it was doing to the Palestinians, But you can't say that Why? Because you are in effect bringing attention to the genocide that's taking place in Gaza, and that is unacceptable. I mean, newspapers like the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, they never even use the word genocide or anything approximating that. It's just verboten. And the idea is to make Israel look like if anything, it's the victim. That's the Wall Street Journal's principal mission. Right? To make Israel look like it's the victim. Wall Street Speaker 0: Journal is so discredited as a newspaper. It's like, I'd I'd I'd rather read The Guardian. I mean, I'd rather read anything other than The Wall Street Journal. Speaker 1: Well, I like to argue that The Wall Street Journal is two newspapers in one. The news and then the opinions It's Speaker 0: all been corrupted. It changed leadership, and it's just the whole thing is total. I I know some great people who work there still, and they're honest people. But the paper is the most dishonest, I would say, of all papers. That's just my view, and I used to write for them. Speaker 1: Well, you'll get no argument from me. As bad as the New York Times and Washington Post are, they pale in comparison to the Wall Street Journal. Speaker 0: I totally agree. And at least the New York Times and especially the Washington Post are just like liberal papers. Okay? There's Democratic Party papers. I know exactly what you are. I'm not like The Guardian, just a left wing paper, socialist paper. I'm not shocked by anything. They're pretty upfront about it. The Wall Street Journal is uniquely offensive to me because of the deception involved. They pretend to be one thing, but they're very much not that thing. They're something entirely different, and they're stealthy and incredibly dishonest. And I look forward to their demise with with unchristian enthusiasm. Excuse me. But anyway, can I just ask you, like, a question I should have asked before? You have this population of over 2,000,000 people. How many remain in Gaza now? Do we know? Or no there's no news coverage allowed, so we don't I guess maybe we don't know. Speaker 1: But Well, there are 2,300,000 to start. Yes. To start. That's that's the approximate number who are there. It appears that some have gotten out. It's hard to gauge how many. There was one person who told me he thought that about a 100,000 had gotten out. Another person told me 50,000. I'm not sure. Speaker 0: But not a million? Speaker 1: Oh, no. No. No. No. The question is how many have been killed. Right. Do we have any idea? Not really. They're you know, the estimates are around sixty million. I'd be sixty million. Excuse me. Sixty thousand. Speaker 0: Do you think it's weird that in 2025, we can measure everything from your heart rate to sunspots that we don't know how many people were killed in Russia, Ukraine, or Palestine. We can't even I've never met anyone who can give me a hard number on Russian casualties, Ukrainian casualties are dead, Palestinians in Gaza. Speaker 1: That's weird. It's weird. They're they're two different cases. I mean, the Ukrainians have a deep seated interest, for example, in not revealing how many people have been killed. Speaker 0: Of course. And so do the Russians, by the way. Yeah. Speaker 1: And with regard to the case of Israel Palestine, the real problem here is that so many people are buried. They're missing. There's a study that somebody did recently as a legitimate study that said that they believe or the study concludes that there are about 400,000 missing people in 400,400. Yeah. Now I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying that there are obviously lots of missing people. Right? Well, if you look at what the Israelis have done in Israel, excuse me, what the Israelis have done in Gaza, I wouldn't be surprised if the number is, you know, 400,000 dead. But who knows? But I I think, you know, 60,000 roughly 60,000 is the number that lots of people use on debt. Speaker 0: So of the remaining, you know, probably less than 2,000,000, but close to 2,000,000 people, it's a lot of people, where do they go? Speaker 1: I mean, this is a great question. Can there Speaker 0: actually be in 2025 a transfer of people like that? I mean, the Second World War wasn't that long ago. Like, people have memories or impressions of what it looks like to move that many people. It's just not that's not good. Speaker 1: Well, the news reports say that the Israelis and the Americans are talking to the Libyans and the Ethiopians and the Indonesians about accepting the Palestinians or at least a substantial portion of that. Let's say 2,000,000 that are left. Speaker 0: But if they actually tried that, I mean, that's so grotesque that you'd think I mean, wouldn't the world just blow up if they tried to do that? Move hundreds of thousands of people against their will from one from their land, which they've been on for thousands of years into some foreign country and just like, that's cool. We're doing this. It's for their safety. Could you actually do that? Speaker 1: Well, I didn't actually think that the Israelis could execute a genocide in Gaza. I didn't think they'd be able to do what they have done since October 7 of Speaker 0: Palestinian. Rules. You just do what you can do. Speaker 1: And Yeah. We're we're at a point where you wanna say that that is a possibility. I'm like you. I find it hard to imagine. I'm sickened by this the whole process, the whole thing. I just I Speaker 0: They all get on boats or something and, like, people have iPhones. They can I mean Speaker 1: Well, also, I think there'll be resistance? Right? I mean, Hamas is still there. The Israelis have not defeated Hamas. Right? Yeah. Mean So but your question is a great one. The question is where do we end up here? What the hell? Where do we end up? You know, just to to go back a bit, when the war starts on October 7 and then the fighting goes on into 2024, the Israeli military is asking Netanyahu to tell them what the, final political plan is. In other words, once the war ends, what's the plan for dealing with the Palestinians? And Netanyahu refuses to give the military a plan. And the military says we can't His own military. His own military, the idea. He the the military says that we can't wage the campaign without knowing what the end game is. Right? Okay. But Netanyahu won't tell them what the end game is because the end game is to drive all the Palestinians out. The reason that Netanyahu has no plan, right, for dealing with the Palestinians at the end of the fighting is because he expect them to he expects them to all be gone. Okay? Now what we're saying here is that hasn't happened. It's hard to imagine that happening. Right? And although the Israelis have been murdering huge numbers of Palestinian, at some point, a substantial number are gonna be left. So the question is, what does that look like? Speaker 0: They probably won't be more moderate by that point. Speaker 1: No. But what they're gonna end up in is a giant ghetto, right, or concentration camp. That's what they're building now. And, again, this gets back to our earlier discussion of what this means Israel's reputation in The United States and in the West more generally. You're gonna build a ghetto. You're gonna put, you know, 2,000,000 people in a ghetto and continue to starve them. Is this sustainable? Speaker 0: What It does tend to affect your moral authority when you do that. Speaker 1: I also think it has a terribly corrupting influence on your society at large. Yeah. I I think once this war comes to a conclusion, hopefully that will be sooner rather than later, and the Israelis take stock of what they have done, this is gonna have a deeply corrosive effect. Speaker 0: Well, yeah. Because I mean I mean, the things that are going on to Jewish Israelis at the hands of their own government right now are I'm not an expert on Israel, but I've been multiple times, and I've always really loved it. I mean, it's such an amazing place. But it was liberal in a fundamental way. That's why I always liked it. I mean, not liberal like Democratic Party liberal, but just like civil liberties liberal. If you were Jewish. Of course. That's a totally fair point that kind of went over my head on my trips there, but you're absolutely right. Speaker 1: And it was designed to go over your head. Speaker 0: Yeah. And it did. You're absolutely right. But my point is the things that are happening now to Israeli citizens are so shocking to me that total elimination of free speech. You say certain things, you go right to jail. Question like, what the hell happened on October 7? Which is a completely fair question. In any free society, that should be allowed. Not allowed. Banning people from leaving the country? Your right to travel, especially to leave, is a foundational right. They're telling Israeli citizens you're not allowed to leave? I don't know. Why is that not a big story? I don't really get it. And then the treatment of Christians, which is disgusting. Those are all signs that the society is becoming illiberal, really, becoming authoritarian. I mean, that's authoritarian. You're not allowed to leave the country? You can't say what you think? That's not a free country. And those are all downstream of the military response post October 7. So I think it makes your point. This is corrupting to their society as the stuff always is. Nine eleven is totally corrupting to our society. Speaker 1: I agree. Just to add a couple points to that, the Israeli military has a huge PTSD problem. Oh, I bet. Really? Yeah. And the Jerusalem Post had a piece I think it was the Jerusalem Post had a piece the other day that said there have been five suicides after the during the past two weeks. So they're having a significant problem with suicide, significant problem with PTSD, and they're having huge problems getting reservists to report for duty. I bet. Because the Israeli military is heavily dependent on reservists. Yes. And the reservists have basically had it. And so this war is having a corrosive effect. And the thing you wanna understand is there's no end in sight. There really isn't. Yeah. And now they're in Southern Lebanon. Now they're in Southern Syria. Speaker 0: Wouldn't The United States shut this down tomorrow? Like, not 1 more dollar for this stuff. You blew up a church? No. No more money for you. Speaker 1: The the fact that the Israelis are so dependent on us as we were talking about before, and we were just, you know, hitting on the tip of the iceberg. They are so dependent on us. Means we have tremendous coercive leverage over them. This is why the this is why the lobby has to work so hard. Right? We have tremendous coercive leverage on them so we could shut this down. We could fundamentally also afternoon. I don't wanna go that far, but we'd need a couple days. But Yeah. No more money for Speaker 0: you if you do one more. Well, we Speaker 1: could also punish them in significant ways. We could easily bring Israel to its knees. And by the way, I have long argued that that would be in Israel's interest. It is not in Israel's interest. Speaker 0: Of course, it would. Speaker 1: It is not interest in in the interest of Jews around the world for this craziness to continue. This craziness should end right away for the good of Israel, for the good of Jews, for the good of The United States. It makes no sense at all. Speaker 0: To what extent is this Netanyahu? Like you often see him singled out as the guy who's pushing this, whose vision this is. If Netanyahu retired tomorrow, would this continue? Speaker 1: Yes. The fact is that he is not unrepresentative of the largest society. There are surely people on, let's use the word left for lack of a better term. There are certainly people on the left who oppose what he's doing and would be more amenable to a political solution, but their numbers are small and dwindling. And I think the overwhelming majority of Israeli support Netanyahu. That's why he's still in office despite the fact he was responsible for what happened on October 7. Of course. He was in charge. The buck is supposed to stop at his desk, but he's not been held accountable because the Israelis want him in charge. So it's not like, you know, he's the odd man out here. Furthermore, if you look at the political spectrum in Israel, there are many people who are to the right of him Yes. Who are growing in political importance. When you and I were young, people like Smotrich, right, and Ben Gavir, right, who are far to the right of Netanyahu, you know. Speaker 0: Well, there weren't that many of or at least that I was I mean, again, I'm not an expert. Don't speak Hebrew. But, I mean, I've, you know, been around it a lot, and I felt like, again, it was a pretty liberal European type society. That was my impression of it. Those days are gone. Yes. No. I know. Speaker 1: Those days are gone. And my point to you is it's only gonna get worse. So the argument that Netanyahu is the problem, it's an argument that many liberal Jews here in The United States like to make the wet like to make. If only we can get rid of Netanyahu, our troubles will go away, and we'll get some sort of moderate leadership and work out a modus vivendi with The United States, but I don't think that's gonna happen. Speaker 0: What happens on the Temple Mount, do you think? So there's the second temple was obviously built on the mountain Jerusalem. It was knocked down by the Romans in AD seventy, and a few hundred years later, the Muslims built the third holiest site in Islam, the Al Aqsa Mosque there, and beneath it is the foundation of the temple. That's the Western Wall. So that's the geography. But there is this push to rebuild the third temple, but there's a mosque on the site. My sense is that's coming to a head. Do you have any feeling about that? Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think the further right Israel moves or the more hawkish it becomes, the more likely it is that will come to a head. There's no question that certainly the religious right in Israel is deeply committed to building a third temple. But you'd have to blow up Speaker 0: the mosque to do it. Yes. And what would happen if someone blew up the third holiest site in Islam in the middle of Jerusalem? Speaker 1: Well, the Israelis are very powerful vis a vis the Palestinian population, and they would, I guess, go to great lengths to suppress any insurrection. If they had to kill lots of people, they'd kill lots of people. Look at what they're doing in Gaza. Yeah. The Israelis are incredibly ruthless. There's just no question about that. And they believe that Palestinians are subhumans, two legged animals, grasshoppers. They use those kind of words. And take what they've been doing in Gaza. It's easy to imagine them doing horrible things to the Palestinians if they were to rise up over what's happening with regard to the Temple Mount. And in terms of the Jordanians or the Egyptians or the Saudis, are they gonna do anything? I doubt it. I mean, they'll make a lot of noise verbally, but in terms of actually doing anything to Israel. The Israelis basically calculate in all these instances that what they can do is horrible things, and then with the passage of time, people will forget. And not only will they forget, but we'll go to great lengths to help them forget. You know, we'll rewrite the history. That's the idea. So I think that your assessment of what we should expect with the Temple Mount is probably correct. Speaker 0: Feels like that's a I mean, that's a you know, there are billion Muslims. So Speaker 1: But they have a huge collective action problem. What are those billion Muslims gonna do? I mean, they they can't organize themselves into armored divisions and strike into Israel. Speaker 0: No. But they could I mean, I think we learned from nine eleven, a small group of determined people can have a big effect on events. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Well, that's all coming too. Right? I mean, this is one of the problems that many Western Jews worry about You know, payback is gonna come not in the form of attacks on Israel, but on in the form of attacks on Western Jews in places like The United States or Europe. And I think that is a real possibility. Let's hope it doesn't happen. But the number of people who are in the in in the Arab and Islamic world who are absolutely enraged by what is going on in Gaza is not to be underestimated. And they have a second strike capability as you point out. You know, I was talking about building armored divisions. That's foolish. They're not gonna build armored divisions, but there are other ways to deal with this. Again, you wanna go back to nine eleven. This gets back to the whole question whether Israel is a strategic liability or a strategic asset. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is the principal planner of nine eleven, now in Guantanamo, and Osama Bin Laden both explicitly said that their principal reason for attacking The United States on nine eleven was The United States' support of Israel's policies against the Palestinians. You just wanna think about that. The conventional wisdom in The United States is that Israel had nothing to do with nine eleven, and these Muslims attacked us because they hate who we are. Nothing could be further from the truth. Obama Obama Osama Bin Laden and KSM, again, have both explicitly said that it was US policy toward Israel that caused nine eleven. Speaker 0: Why do you suppose that so many nine eleven documents are still classified almost twenty five years after the fact? Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, why are so many Jeffrey Epstein documents effectively classified? Why are so many Kennedy assassination documents still not released? Still not released. That's correct. You know, you really do wonder. They obviously have something to hide. In most cases, it's very hard to divine what it is that they're trying to hide, and that's certainly true with regard to nine eleven. But but we just don't know. We don't know. And it Speaker 0: and it does make everybody into a into a wacko thinking about it. I mean, if you want to end so called conspiracy theories, tell the truth, and then, you know, no one has to theorize would be my view. So you just you have a piece out. It's my last question to you. Thank you for spending all this time. You have a piece out that describes what you believe the world will look like in fifty years, and I should say, just to toot your horn since you're not gonna do it, that you've been right on some of the big big big questions, and you've stood essentially alone in your field in your predictions that have been vindicated on them, not just about the power of foreign lobbies, but about China, about NATO. And so I do think your opinion on this matters. Can you just give us a sense of ten years hence, what's America's place in the world? Speaker 1: Well, I think if you look out ten years, even if you were to look out twenty or thirty years, I think in all likelihood, the system, the international system will continue to be dominated by three countries, The United States, China, and Russia. And I think The United States and China will remain the two most powerful countries on the planet, And The US China competition over the next ten years and even beyond that will influence international politics more than any other relationship. I think that once you begin to project out past ten, twenty years, The United States' position vis a vis China, I think will improve for demographic reasons. I think the Chinese population is gonna drop off at a much more rapid rate than the American population. And moreover, the Americans can rely on immigration to rectify the problem. So if you look at population, which is one of the two building blocks population size, one of the two building blocks of military power. The other is wealth. The United States looking out twenty, thirty, forty years looks like it's in quite good shape. Right? Now what's happened since 2017 and really even before that is that with the rise of China, The United States lost its position as the UNIPOL, as the clearly dominant power in the international system, and we now have a peer competitor. So when people talk about American decline, they're correct that we have had decline, let's say, since 2017 when China became a great power, although it Speaker 0: started before That's the second time you made reference to 2017 as the threshold for China. What is the definition? How does a country go from being a big power to a great power? Speaker 1: It develops enough military capability to put up a serious fight against the most powerful state in the system. Thank you. Right. So you wanna remember the two main building blocks of military power are wealth and population size. You take that wealth, you take that population size, and that's what allows you to build the powerful military. That affects your position in the balance of power. And remember when I talked about engagement, we made China rich. We made China wealthy. So China always had that huge population. And as a result of engagement during the unipolar moment from roughly, let's say, nineteen ninety two to two thousand seventeen, we helped China get rich. And that rich, that wealth, coupled with that population side, China becomes a great power. Okay? So we are losing relative power over that entire time period, and that's when China then becomes a great power. And we now have a competition where The United States is still more powerful than China overall, but the Chinese are closing the gap. So we're still losing relative power to the Chinese, and I would bet over the next ten years, we will lose relative power. Not a substantial amount, but some. But still, The United States will probably remain, ten years from now, the most powerful state in the system, and the Chinese will be right behind us. The Russians will remain the weakest of those three great powers. But if you project out, you know, thirty, forty years, that's when I think The United States will widen the gap with China because population wise, the Chinese population, as a result of the one child policy, will decline significantly. And our population size without immigration will not decline as significantly as the Chinese population will, but we also have immigration as our ace in the hole. So we can bring in immigrants as we have done in the past, and we will remain in quite good shape. So I think the long term future for The United States in terms of raw power looks quite good. That's not to say our policies will be wise because as you and I know, The United States has used that massive power that it's had in the past in oftentimes foolish ways. Speaker 0: Yeah. And is is that power worth having? I mean, I don't know. It's more complicated than it sounds. I mean, do people's lives improve, which seems like an important measure? Not the only measure, but certainly one. Well, this Speaker 1: is the realist in me, Tucker. In the international system, in international politics, because there's no higher authority that can protect you if you get into trouble, it's very important to be powerful. Right? The the you can't dial 911 in the international system and have someone come and rescue you. And in a world where another state might be powerful and might attack you, it's very important to be the most powerful state in the system, and the last thing you wanna do is be weak. You wanna remember the Chinese refer to the period from the late eighteen forties to the late nineteen forties as the century of national humiliation. Yes. It was too. Yes. And why did they suffer a century of national humiliation? Because they were weak. Speaker 0: Because they were divided. Speaker 1: Right. And remember we talked earlier in the show about NATO expansion. We talked about why we continued to push and push and push even though the Russians said it was unacceptable. And I said to you, we were gonna shove it down their throat. And why we were gonna shove it down their throat? Because we thought they were weak. You'd never wanna be weak. You wanna be powerful. The problem with making that argument today, for me to make that argument to you and to many people I know, is that we all understand that The United States has been incredibly powerful and it's used that power in foolish ways, in ways that don't make us happy. And therefore, the idea of having all this power leads us to think or leads many people to think that we'll use that power foolishly, and I fully understand that. But my argument is you still wanna be powerful just because it's the best way to survive in the international system. It's the way to maximize your security. But, hopefully, you'll use that power smartly. Although given America's performance in recent decades, there's not a lot of cause for hope. Do we wind up Speaker 0: in a war with China over Taiwan? Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I don't think it's likely in the foreseeable future. The problem is it's an incredibly difficult military operation for the Chinese because it involves an amphibious assault. They have to go across the Taiwan Strait, which is a large body of water, and amphibious assaults are very difficult. And in all likelihood, the Americans will come to the aid of the Taiwanese. The other thing is the Taiwan I mean, the Chinese, unlike the Americans, don't fight wars all the time. The last time China fought a war was in 1979. Just think about that. 1979. In Vietnam. Yeah. Where they they were foolish enough to follow in our footsteps. Yep. And we were fool enough enough to follow in the French footsteps and go in there. So they went in in '79 and got whacked, but they've not fought a war since then. So they don't have a highly trained military that has lots of combat experience that would be capable of launching one of the most difficult military operations imaginable, which is an amphibious assault across the Taiwan Strait into the face of resistance from not only the Taiwanese, but the Americans. So I think that, will keep a lid on things for the foreseeable future. I don't think the Chinese will attack. I think that what they'll wait for is the right moment to hope that the world changes in ways that makes it feasible for them to do it. They're good at waiting. They're good at waiting. That is I I think that's true. So I I don't think and I wanna underline I'm using the word think. The other point, very quickly, we do live in a nuclear world, and we have nuclear weapons and they have nuclear weapons. And the incentive for them to avoid a war with The United States and for us to avoid a war with them because of nuclear weapons is very great. So that may really put a damper on things if we ever get into a serious crisis. Professor, thank you Speaker 0: for spending all this time. That was wonderful. Speaker 1: It's my pleasure, Tucker. Thanks very much for having me on the Thank Speaker 0: And thank you for doing this, and congratulations on being vindicated after all these years. That must be nice. Whether you admit it or not, you have been. So thank you. Speaker 1: I'm gonna plead the Fifth Amendment. Thank you again.
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reSee.it AI Summary
If America faced relentless bombing due to our government's actions, leading to the suffering of innocent people, I would feel devastated and abandoned if the world remained silent. This is the reality for Gaza, where many innocent lives, including children, are being lost, despite not being involved in the violence. Just as we empathize with victims in Israel, we must also show compassion for those in Gaza. I believe all innocent lives matter equally. As a taxpayer, I oppose funding military actions that contribute to such suffering and refuse to remain silent about it.

@RepMTG - Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸

If America was being bombed day and night because of something horrific our government did, and many innocent Americans and American children were being killed and traumatically injured, and we begged for mercy, but the rest of the world said, “Americans voted for their government so they deserve it, their government is bad so all Americans are bad, therefore this is what they get and must be done” And the world was silent to our suffering. And no one came to our aid. And our cities and homes were bombed and turned to rubble. And our infrastructure was destroyed, no farms, no grocery stores, no more organized society. And no one helped our injured and hungry children. How would you feel? What would you think? What would you do? This is what is happening to Gaza where in spite of what we have all been told, many innocent people and children are being killed and they are not Hamas. Does Hamas deserve it? Yes. Do innocent people and children deserve it? No. The innocent people in Gaza did not kill and kidnap the innocent people in Israel on Oct 7th. Just as we spoke out and had compassion for the victims and families of Oct7, how can Americans not speak out and have compassion for the masses of innocent people and children in Gaza? Is one type of innocent life worthy and another type of innocent life worth nothing? For me, I think God sees all innocent lives the same and he loves them all. As a matter of fact, He sent his own son for all people, that’s how much He loves us. America funds Israel $3.8 billion annually for military aid. Actually correction. U.S. taxpayers fund Israel $3.8 billion annually for military aid. That means every U.S. tax payer is contributing to Israel’s military actions. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to pay for genocide in a foreign country against a foreign people for a foreign war that I had nothing to do with. And I will not be silent about it.

Saved - December 12, 2025 at 8:12 PM

@propvstruth - PVT

If you were wondering why X / Elon Musk disabled Hebrew translations .. this is why. Every Hebrew tweet is either something like this or zionists celebrating dead babies.

@AssalRad - Assal Rad

Nothing to see here, just the Israeli minister of national security saying there are no Palestinian people while also calling for ethnic cleansing. There is no peace for Palestinians. https://t.co/O6arIi1NyO

Saved - January 23, 2026 at 8:22 AM

@falasteen47 - Robert Inlakesh

Trump’s “Master-Plan” For Gaza Is Not Only Criminal, It Won’t Work Here is why… https://t.co/4ho0TWYmSX

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The speaker analyzes Donald Trump’s so-called “board of peace for Gaza” plan outlined by Jared Kushner, arguing it is utterly ridiculous, criminal, and unworkable, and would crash and burn if attempted. Key elements are scrutinized point by point. - Plan details and feasibility: Kushner claims there is no plan B for a $25 billion project to build a Dubai/Singapore-like coastal Gaza. This project would depend on Palestinian resistance disarming. Hamas and other groups have said they will not disarm; they propose storing weapons and handing them over to a future Palestinian state’s military, which Israel refuses, insisting on total demilitarization and destruction of all Palestinian resistance. Trump presents two options: the easy path of Hamas surrendering weapons, or the hard path of a military confrontation. The speaker notes Israel has already fought for more than two years in Gaza, destroyed infrastructure, and failed to defeat the resistance, with estimates of roughly the same number of fighters as on 10/07/2023. - Ground force and international stabilization: The plan envisions an International Stabilization Force (ISF) that will not be a peacekeeping force but will provide security inside Gaza to combat the Palestinian resistance and disarm them. The ISF would reportedly consist of tens of thousands of troops from multiple countries, coordinated under U.S. leadership via a civil-military coordination center. The speaker questions how such a multinational force could operate, given potential casualties and differing doctrines, and notes that some countries (e.g., Azerbaijan) have refused to commit troops. There are also five ISIS-linked militias within Israeli-controlled areas. The plan references private military contractors (UG Solutions) and a push to recruit more of them, adding to the confusion and lack of coherent strategy. The speaker emphasizes that Kushner acknowledges there is no plan B, underscoring perceived lack of substance. - Reconstruction and urban model: Kushner’s slides depict a Gaza transformed into a high-end coastal city with “areas mapped out,” implying rapid rebuilding. The speaker compares this to Gaza’s actual humanitarian reality: UN estimates suggest rubble clearance and reconstruction could take ten to fifteen years, not two to three as claimed. Israel continues bulldozing and demolishing infrastructure, even during ceasefire phases, and the speaker questions why a rapid rebuilding project would materialize when such destruction persists. - Governance, accountability, and international law: The plan is criticized as a form of colonial-style governance that would impose a new order in Gaza without granting Palestinian statehood, effectively using Gaza as a site for a “ Disneyland for billionaires.” The speaker highlights that UN Security Council Resolution 2803 (passed last November) allowed Trump’s framework, but eliminated long-standing precedents and Geneva Conventions, raising questions about legality and accountability. The speaker also notes the absence of accountability for Israel’s actions, which have involved heavy aid from US weapons and Western support yet no financial penalties. - Broader consequences and justice: The video argues that the plan presupposes a peaceful reordering of Gaza that ignores the rights and needs of Palestinians. It asserts that the only viable path to lasting peace is granting Palestinians their rights and achieving justice. The speaker warns that continuing with the current approach will backfire and that the arrogance preceding the 10/07/2023 events has led to mounting pressures and resistance, with no settlement in sight. Overall, the speaker contends the board’s proposals are incoherent, impractical, and driven by elite interests, with no credible pathway to genuine Palestinian self-determination or sustainable peace.
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Speaker 0: So it's time to talk about Donald Trump's so called board of peace for Gaza, and the new plan which has just been outlined by his son-in-law Jared Kushner, and why it is utterly ridiculous. It is also criminal, and it cannot work in any way shape or form, and if they try it will crash and burn. And why also it makes the flimsy nation building exercise which was carried out in Iraq look like a professional job. So let's get into a few elements of this. Number one, Jared Kushner says that there is no plan b. And he also says that in order to construct this $25,000,000,000 project where they're going to build all of these skyscrapers along the coast of the Gaza Strip and build a Dubai Singapore type model, which is something the Israeli propaganda has been presenting to us that Gaza could be Singapore and Dubai, if they just gave up their weapons for a very long time. All of this is going to be dependent upon the Palestinian resistance disarming. Now, of course, Hamas and the other Palestinian groups have all said that they will not disarm. What they will do is they will agree to storing their weapons, and then they could hand over their weapons, hypothetically, to a future Palestinian state and Palestinian military, and their forces would be integrated into that Palestinian military force. Israel does not accept this, and the Israelis are adamant that Hamas be totally demilitarized. All of the Palestinian resistance groups will be destroyed. So from the get go, you've got a big problem there. And Donald Trump says there's two ways in order to that they could address this. One is we do it the easy way. So Hamas just hands over weapons. We've gone through the fact that that's just not going to happen, and Israel won't accept what Hamas is proposing. And the second option is that they are going to do it the hard way. Which means what? They're going to have to bring in military force. Now the Israelis, for more than two years, committed a genocide in Gaza. They destroyed the majority of the infrastructure in Gaza, and they failed to defeat the resistance. By the intelligence estimates of The United States and the Israelis, the number of fighters, Palestinian resistance fighters, is roughly the same as it was on 10/07/2023. And so what would it take, for instance, to do it the hard way and eliminate the Palestinian resistance? Well, we have some estimates that we could work on. They are provided by the Israeli military themselves. Last year, prior to the ceasefire, Israel launched what they called Operation Gideon's Chariots two. Now this was an operation, they said, which was seeking at first to occupy all of Gaza, and then they reduced it to just Gaza City. The estimates they had at that time said that at least a 150,000 would be required, but more likely 200,000 plus soldiers would be required in order to occupy Gaza City alone. And this process of occupying Gaza City could take up to a decade. Now the international security force, and this is where this comes in, which will be the ground force implementing what the Board of Peace, the dictatorship over Gaza, is going to try and bring about, this is where that comes in. So the International Stabilization Force, which The US has been very explicit about, will not be a peacekeeping force. It will be tasked with security inside of Gaza. If that is going to be used to combat the Palestinian resistance and disarm them, you're talking about a force now we've heard that this force will be in the tens of thousands. We don't know yet because nothing is for certain and everything is vague, just like with the board of peace. Everything they propose, everything they say, all of the documents, all of the PDFs, all of the slides that they present behind them with the wonderful rhetoric about how they're building peace, prosperity, and accountability, and all of those wonderful things, great words, you know, no substance behind them, but great words. They're saying that there'll be tens of thousands of soldiers. These are tens of thousands at most who will come from, you know, few 100 from this military, few 100 from that, few thousand here, you know, whatever. From different militaries, speak different languages with different doctrines that will come into the Gaza Strip, and I suppose we'll have to work with the new Palestinian police forces they wanna train in Egypt. There can't be all that many of them. And then the five ISIS linked militias that Israel has been backing which are currently inside the territory which Israel controls. Now Israel was supposed to control 53% of the Gaza Strip and it currently controls closer to 60% of the Gaza Strip because violated the ceasefire, and of course violates the ceasefire every single day. We'll get into that a little bit more in a bit. But first, this ISF. So let's say they want to combat Hamas. They don't have anywhere near 200,000 soldiers to do it. They're not talking about a process which could take a decade. No. They're talking about tens of thousands of soldiers, all from different countries, have to coordinate together. They'll end up coming home in body bags, which is going to cause chaos in their own country. The United States is leading this project. They have their own military center, and, of course, they they run as well. They have boots on the ground now. They run the so called civil military coordination center, which is supposed to monitor the ceasefire and stop violations of the ceasefire. Really, what it's acted as is aiding Israel in its war crimes, but regardless. They will be heading this. US troops will be heading this. So they're going to direct a force to disarm Hamas with roughly the same amount of fighters as the Palestinians, apparently. How is that going to work? The answer is it's not going to work. Just like the floating aid pier didn't work, and it was a massive waste of money. And just like the so called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, the private military contractors, and I haven't even mentioned them yet, there's talks with the firm which was employing them, UG Solutions. They're they were talking about recruiting more private military contractors to go into Gaza. Again, this is a big mess, and there's a billion proposals put on the table, and each one contradicts the other, and this is just how this process has been. And Jared Kushner's own admission, there's no plan b. So they don't know what they're doing at all. And this entire time, if you think the military aspect of this is ridiculous and stupid and will crash and burn, which is very obvious that that's the case, and already so many countries have expressed that, well, you know, I'm not going to put troops into this. Azerbaijan, a great ally of the Israelis, has said so far, so far, that they don't want to put troops in to the ISF. They don't want to commit their military. That could be partly to do with the fact that Israel refuses certain militaries from being involved, like the Turkish military and Qatari forces, for instance, but that's not even worth getting into. Let's get into the other aspect of this. They wanna build this this super city. Right? And they have all of these different areas of Gaza mapped out, on their slides, on Jared Kushner's little slides. Okay. So you are proposing, and from the images you can go and check them out for yourself, you're proposing a Gaza which looks more impressive, in my opinion. I've been to Tel Aviv. More impressive than the infrastructure in Tel Aviv. But if you want to dispute that, way more impressive than the surrounding Israeli controlled cities around Gaza. Like, if you look at Eskalan or Estrud, these areas, they don't look anything like that. So you're proposing, and and and we are supposed to believe that Gaza will be transformed in such a drastic way, quickly. You know, Jared Kershner says it's just gonna take two or three years to clear the rubble. Well, according to UN estimates, and these are dated, it could take between ten to fifteen years at minimum. I don't think it would take that long, but it's definitely gonna take probably more than two to three years to clear everything, I would say. I'm no expert, but I mean two to three versus fifteen, there's a massive difference in those numbers. Regardless, anyway, when we're talking about that, the Israelis haven't stopped bulldozing in Gaza. They are still destroying buildings, rigging them up with bombs, detonating them, bringing their bulldozers in, and bombing buildings in Gaza to flatten the infrastructure. Most of Israel's genocide has been destroying infrastructure. They haven't actually engaged in many ground battles with Palestinian forces. In fact, they just avoided that altogether. Every single operation ended up in a hospital or in a school. That was their goal, to go to a hospital or a school, then they ended up just flattening the place and committing a massacre there. They didn't fight. They didn't fight because they didn't want to lose soldiers. Again, another story. But Israeli forces are still bulldozing and demolishing. So why would they still be destroying Gaza if they're readying themselves to rebuild Gaza? Why would they still be flattening everything? Twenty four seven, this is ongoing, monitored by the CMCC, all of the countries that are part of that, and of course headed by The United States. The United States knows this well. It understands what is going on in the Gaza Strip. So you're telling me they've spent over two years demolishing all of Gaza, and continue to do it after the imposition of the so called ceasefire, And suddenly they're just going to, like, allow $25,000,000,000 to come in, rebuild it, and turn Gaza into Dubai. That's gonna happen in in a short period of time, and Hamas is gonna disarm, and they're just gonna do it the way, and all of this stuff. And there's no plan. There's no plan to achieve any of it. None. It's all vague. It's all, you know, nonsense niceties, and and and rhetoric about accountability and all of this. And the question is to everyone watching this, do you really believe any of this stuff after hearing what I've just said? Does and I haven't gone into any of the details. And to be honest, I would just have to go into details of things that have been floated, because there are so many theories and so many different proposals that are being thrown around on a daily basis, and they always change. There's nothing that is set in stone, nothing that is cement, no plan that has looked like it can actually materialize in Gaza. And meanwhile, the people of Gaza can't even get proper shelter. They're still in tents. They haven't brought in adequate supplies and aid for them. They still won't let people in Gaza get the medical care that they need. And they kicked out over 30 different NGOs from the CMCC because there's a component of it which deals with humanitarian aid, for instance. So all of this considered, does this look realistic? No. Because it's not, and it's pure sadism. And then they want to impose this rule over Gaza, and this is where it gets into the death of the United Nations. At the UN Security Council last November, there was UN resolution, Security Council Resolution twenty eight zero three, which allowed for all of this, which allowed for Trump to establish his border peace with Tony Blair, a bunch of Zionist billionaires, you know, a UAE controlled puppet, and a whole bunch of others. Right? On there. Netanyahu has joined, and, you know, a Netflix style, subscription service for the Board of Peace, a billion dollars. I wonder where those billions of dollars are going to end up going. Probably not, I would say, probably not to the people of Gaza, probably to a bunch of the business elite, and in the pockets, lining the pockets of billionaires and corporate interests. But anyway, all of that aside, this UN resolution was passed. It completely eliminated all of the precedent set by decades and decades of UNSC and UNGA resolutions passed. It completely eliminated the Geneva Conventions. It completely ignored the aspirations for Palestinian statehood. All of this. And yet all these countries are on board. Oh yes, mister Trump. Yes, you're so wonderful. You're a peacemaker. You're doing great. It's wonderful prosperity and accountability. I ask everyone watching this, if you've got this far into the video. Israel just committed a genocide. Israel just destroyed Gaza. Why in the world are you okay with your government participating in this colonial style project, which doesn't end in Palestinian statehood which implements a regime change force which, again, like I said, is going to fail and won't work and a board of peace which is doing nation building. If you're American and if you support Donald Trump, the new security doctrine, the National Security Strategy, which was put out late last year by the White House, says there's no more nation building. Then what is Board of Peace other than a nation building project? It's exactly that. You're interfering, and your tax dollars are going towards it. And we talk about accountability. The word accountability always comes up in these stupid conversations. Why is Israel not paying? Why is Israel not paying after it committed the genocide? Yes, it was with US weapons, and of course the entire West supported it. But Israel did it, and Israel doesn't have to pay a single dollar. Israel reaps the benefits from this. Where's the accountability there? Why are your soldiers going to be deployed into Gaza, potentially, if this even works and gets to that stage. Why are your soldiers going to be deployed? Why is it your tax dollars that are going to end up paying for this? You have to ask yourself this question, and then we haven't even considered what this means for the people of Gaza. You want to build your little, you know, Disneyland for billionaires in Gaza. Again, a ridiculous project, which I don't believe is going to work. You want to build this Disneyland for billionaires, you know, the big casino city. Okay, where are the Palestinians going? Where are the Palestinians going? This is a project for either ethnically cleansing them or using them essentially as slaves. That's what the proposal is. And again, I don't think the proposal is going to work. What I do believe is gonna happen, and I'll end on this, is that this will tremendously backfire, and eventually, something is going to give. And the utter arrogance that prevailed prior to 10/07/2023 is exactly what's happening right now. Just kick the can down the road, stay in limbo between phase one, phase two of your ceasefire. Although phase two should have been already happening now. We're, like, three months in, and we still haven't got to it. Just, you know, keep kicking the can down the road. Keep making sure the Gazans are suffering, and, you know, dying of the cold, and and the floods that keep flooding, and and taking away their tents. Don't allow them to have any place to really live in, and make sure they can't come anywhere near to their homes, if they live anywhere close to the area where Israel occupies, because their heads will be blown off. Just wait, and just watch, and just let this all, you know, glide along, and no one's gonna do anything about it, anywhere in the region. And that the resistance forces aren't going to do anything either. It's obvious where this is all heading, and I didn't go into many of the details, which I could have, but this video hopefully will give everyone a little bit of context, and a little bit of an understanding of what has just happened, and how ridiculous this stupid proposal is, and why it won't work, and why the only solution is to grant Palestinians their rights. For there to be justice. There's no such thing as achieving a lasting peace when you don't have justice, when the Palestinian people are not free. The reason why this whole situation has come into being is because the Palestinian people were sidelined, and the Israelis and the American government pretended as if they could just go and just normalize with Arab governments, and ignore Palestinians, and constantly life would get worse and worse and worse for them, and we just leave them there. And they just die and suffer in silence. And evidently that never happens. They don't. They'll keep resisting. And, again, the arrogance with which they operate I don't want to take this into other regional conflicts now but the arrogance with which they operate is ultimately going to be their downfall.
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