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The Shawn Ryan Show's latest episode exposes the disturbing world of child predators. Ethical hacker Ryan Montgomery is dedicated to exposing these predators and will release thousands of names. Parents must monitor their children's activities on phones and gaming consoles. Project Veritas and Shawn Ryan are helping to bring awareness to this issue. California protects predators while Florida puts them down. A database is being built to identify those involved in these sick activities. We must all bring awareness to this battle of Good vs Evil to save the children.
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1/8) This episode of the Shawn Ryan show is tough to watch, but a Must Watch… He says it’s the most Evil, most disturbing…the darkest episode released on his show. This has to do with Predators who are preying sexually on Children. Ryan Montgomery the #1 ranked ethical hacker in the world has dedicated his life to hack into these websites to expose the Predators that are preying on our children and he will be releasing thousands of names, so please keep him in y’all’s prayers. Here he talks about how he got involved in helping these children. What he is doing will help #SaveManyKids They had to censor quite a bit, so that YouTube etc. will not take down the video. If anyone who wants to watch the full version it’s The Shawn Ryan Show Episode #56
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The speaker received a text message from a concerned friend's wife, who sent screenshots of a disturbing website. The website contained graphic content and discussions about illegal activities involving children. The speaker decided to take action and found a vulnerability in the website's platform, allowing them to access and extract user data. They only downloaded publicly available information to avoid illegal content. The speaker shared some of the explicit text they encountered, which included discussions about child abuse and exploitation. The website had around 7,000 users who had to answer disturbing questions to gain access. The speaker also discovered that the website used a chat app called Telegram for further discussions. They successfully hacked the website without being detected.
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Speaker 0: You know, kinda where that all, came from. I was at a friend's a friend's house, and I got a text message from my friend's wife. And it was multiple photos of screenshots of this website that was, it was clear from the screenshot that the website was on the regular Internet. Anyone could access it. And should I name the website?
Yeah. It's no longer up, but it was .co. So, .co. Then that website went down, and it ended up being t0, like T as in Thomas, O as in Oscar. So I see this website and I see the content in these screenshots that my friend's wife sent me.
She doesn't know anything about computers, but she has kids herself. And she was like, can you do something about this? I read this content, And, one of them was was, was talking about a mother that wanted to have have kids and then have the kids be so that when the kids grew up, that they could have and go even further. I mean, I'll pull up the screenshots because I'd like to explaining where my head was at that time. But as soon as I read these messages, I guess a switch flipped in my brain, And I left my friend's house immediately as I got the text.
And I went home. I didn't know for sure that I was going to be able to get into this website. Just knew I wanted to do something about it, and I found a vulnerability in their platform. I got in, And from that point on, I started to exfiltrate the data every single day, all of the users. I noticed that a lot of people were soliciting on the site.
So I didn't want to download those messages in case of the fact that I'd pull in some images that I'm not allowed to have and nor do I want. So I made sure to only download the publicly facing stuff, which didn't include it had some very graphic text, but it didn't include anything illegal, which I think it should be illegal to talk that way. But it was horrible stuff.
Speaker 1: What what what were some of the so you started this basically from a text conversation with a concerned mom. That's what got you into it. Yeah. What's some of the Text that you saw on I'd like to read them to you if
Speaker 0: you want. I still have them.
Speaker 1: Read them.
Speaker 0: So this is before I ever caught a single predator in my life. This was the beginning and what set my brain off to want to help. But this is before I even heard of this website, before I heard of anything to do with it. Okay. Here they are.
So the title should I read these? They're graphic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, read them. So the
Speaker 0: title of this post is who wants to bang these little, and then somebody replied underneath, I've got first dibs on the, Joseph Fritzl, Maximilian, which is there's 2 different users there, pick for yourselves. And this was the photo that they used.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 0: That's just 1 of 3. 3 tech guys.
Speaker 1: These girls look like they're 6.
Speaker 0: Very young, yeah. And then there was that 1 story where I told you about the I can't see it, but the story I told you about the bath telling the situation where there was a father who posted their child in the bathtub, and it said underneath of it, They have no idea what's going to happen to them tonight. And then underneath of that, there were people that were part of this website who were saying what they were going to do to this child. And this wasn't just some fantasy that this guy was talking about. This was a guy posting his child in the bathtub for real.
It really was his child. I assume he was a man, but it was a parent. So that really got to me. And then, I got another part of this text message. I'll just read 1 more of the 3.
And this one says that they are a 16 year old. A lot of these people were roleplaying to be children. And in our investigations, we found out there was a lot of actual kids on this website, real kids that were under 18 at the time of this this when I hacked the site.
Speaker 1: What are they doing on there? They're selling their bodies for money to these kids to these people. The kids prostituting themselves.
Speaker 0: Yes. So one of them I don't know if this is a real 16 year old or not, but what was said was Pretty disturbing, regardless. It said, God, I really want to be a mom. I need someone who wants to 16 year old. When I have our daughter, I'd let you do whatever you wanted from whatever age.
Make me watch as you teaching her how to lovingly. Don't worry. If it's a boy, you can watch, teaching him how to properly a woman, teaching him how to slap and hurt me to. He'd be so cute trying to
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
Speaker 0: So when I got these text messages and Reading them even current day right now, it makes me sick to my stomach to even think about, and I know they're gone. So I mean, not all these people are still out there, but the website's down.
Speaker 1: How many people are on this website?
Speaker 0: At first, I thought it was a couple thousand when I cleaned up the database and figured it out. There's about 7,000 people in just this one website, and We have a total of 5.
Speaker 1: You have 7,000 people on one website.
Speaker 0: And you couldn't become a member of this website unless you answered an application where you had to answer a question that was something like, Are you okay with doing something horrible with a 3 year old in all of their holes? You had to answer that question in detail. I forget the exact verbiage of the question. It's posted somewhere in regards to this interview or Project Veritas, one or the other, but you had to fill that out to become a member of the website you just saw and which would tell me that either you're an undercover cop or you're an actual predator on the site. I mean, who would answer a question like that even if they were just curious?
Speaker 1: So it's a whole questionnaire you have to do to get into the site?
Speaker 0: There was a few questions, I think 2 or 3 that were really horrible, but you had to answer them or they would not approve you to join the site.
Speaker 1: Is there any other prerequisites to Get on sites like these?
Speaker 0: Yes. So what I learned in this process, doing the investigation and exporting everything that I could Legally export. I found that they used a chat app called Telegram, and they were going back and forth talking about and they would call it cheese pizza and use all kinds of different phrases for it. And I realized there were these moderators in the chat rooms outside of the website, where if you would send them, they would let you into another group which was full of. But of course I couldn't do that, so I never got to see past that part.
But I do have evidence of that being a thing because because I exported all the chat logs. So it shows that if I were to send something horrible to one of those moderators, I would have seen something even worse, which is hard to imagine, then we are already seeing here. What
Speaker 1: did you do with that information? Actually, let me backtrack. I'm sorry. How long did it take you to crack into that website and get this information?
Speaker 0: I wasn't sure, like I said, when I got the text messages and I wanted to try to take my goal was to just take the site down. And I knew I could make that happen because it was on a clear net, regular Internet for anyone to visit. I knew I could do that, but I didn't know if I could actually get access to their server. Once I found the vulnerability, maybe an hour, 2 hours at the most, if I can remember correctly. It wasn't long, and they never found out they were hacked.
So to this day, they never found out, and they will never find out, I mean, unless somebody in that database is watching this, now you know I have your data, and we will find you. So I actually recommend you come forward so we don't have to make the story up for you
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2/8) This is absolutely heartbreaking to hear Ryan Montgomery doing all he can to expose these child predators and then seeing that he is asking for help and couldn’t get any, until Project Veritas and now Shawn Ryan. One of the website that he hacked into was run by a Democrat Politician from Virginia Nathan Larson whom y’all will hear what a Sick Pedophile he is and law enforcement were very aware of it and ignored it! Because they ignored it, he was able to victimized another soul. Thank goodness he was arrested and died in prison!
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The speaker discovered disturbing information about a website and immediately reported it to the Exploited Children tip line and various news stations. However, the news stations were not allowed to report on the illegally obtained material. The speaker tried to raise awareness about the website without revealing any illegal content, but their efforts were disregarded. Law enforcement also did not take action. The owner of the website, a Democratic politician named Nathan Larson, was eventually arrested for kidnapping a 12-year-old girl. The speaker believes that there are more individuals involved in such activities and intends to expose them. Nathan Larson later died in prison, allegedly due to starvation.
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Speaker 0: What did you do with this information?
Speaker 1: So as soon as I got the information, I would I thought it was a slam dunk. I thought, like, these people were going to jail. And I thought that maybe I solved something that the FBI or somebody was working on for a long time. And I instantly went to the Exploited Children tip line, and I submitted saying who the owner of the website was, that I had access to all the data and that they were welcome to have it, basically. Then I reached out to a bunch of news articles, or I'm sorry, news stations and talked to a ton of reporters, and all of them were super excited to talk to me.
Speaker 0: What news stations?
Speaker 1: Sun Sentinel, Daily Mail, Business Insider, Fox, some influencers, Ronan Farrow, Candace Owens, they both didn't read my messages. But as for the news stations, I had full conversations with the reporters. They knew what they were getting themselves into. They were very excited about reporting on it. And Once it got back from legal, they weren't allowed to report on it.
And I said, well, okay, if you're not allowed to report on the illegally obtained material that I have, Just let parents know that this website exists and whatever you want, but just keep whatever illegal out of it. You know, I just want parents to know that this website exists. You don't need to put my name. You don't need to put the material that I obtained. Nothing.
Every single one of them completely disregarded me. I sent a lot of those notes over to Project Veritas with some evidence of that, but not a single person until now has done anything about this.
Speaker 0: Not one, not any conservative media, not any liberal media, because unfortunately, that's the Day and age we live in now, right? None of them none of them would touch this. None of them wanna be involved in saving kids.
Speaker 1: When I say I tried, I tried so hard and nobody wanted to do anything.
Speaker 0: So what wound up happening with the information? Law enforcement didn't want to get involved either.
Speaker 1: No. So I called my attorney locally. And I called an attorney in Virginia because the owner of the website happened to be a Democratic politician and ran for Congress two times. His name is Nathan Larson, and I'll explain more about him in a second. But I talked to a lawyer in Virginia because I knew that's where he lived, and I wanted to see what I could do from there.
So the lawyer in Virginia basically told me she didn't know what to say. She never heard of anything like this. The lawyer in Florida reached out to the local task force, let them know that I had access to the information, and then as well as doing that tip line. So from that point on, all of these news stations and all the law enforcement Connections, whatever you want to call them. They all were fully aware that Nathan Larson was running this website, that he ran for Congress twice, that he was an extremist.
He did crazy things. But he did run for Congress 2 different times in Virginia, so I thought that they would take that seriously. Well, completely ignored.
Speaker 0: Completely ignored it. Project Veritas gave me access to some of the stuff You guys are working on together. And in one of those videos, you're reading a quote from Nathan Larson. I'm gonna read it right now. This is from Nathan Larson, Democratic politician, Ramford Kabaec.
Congress multiple times ran a website, To discuss their dark intentions and fantasies. Here's the quote. It's not enough kids and take their innocence. You also need to reproduce the next generation with them. Let them see that you prefer to the offspring you have with them than to continue to have with a woman who is no longer jail bait.
The quote continues, but you can still sometimes just let her know though that What you love her for the most is producing with you is producing with you a fresh new young girl and that this is her main value in contribution hat. You think fondly of her. This is disgusting. I'm sorry. You think fondly of her for because that beautiful daughter reminds you of her.
Speaker 1: It's unimaginable. It's like, how do people think this way? But there's so many people that think this way that it's alarming is the word for it. I don't know how else to put it. It's way more people than you'd think than you'd like to believe.
Speaker 0: Code words pizza and cooking And cheese pizza stands for.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 0: This is disgusting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets only worse than that. You know, it's really bad.
Speaker 0: How much worse does it get?
Speaker 1: Worse. I mean, people if this this is a person talking talking about it, and it makes me uncomfortable just as much as it makes you uncomfortable. But these people, what they're talking about, they're doing. This guy isn't some guy with a bunch of fantasies. This guy got arrested 6 months after.
Nobody did anything about it. And like I said, I try my best. He gets arrested 6 months later with a 12 year old at a layover at an airport after he fucking kidnapped her. So not only did he Talk about it. He did it, and he got caught.
As for some other people, I don't know how much more I can go into it, but 1 guy we're investigating As of 2020, which is after I submitted the data, he got in trouble for doing something horrible to a child as well, became a fugitive, and I think they eventually got them. But we're not even close to through the list yet, and we got a lot more people to expose. And They're not just talking about it. They're doing it.
Speaker 0: Let's backtrack real quick because you kind of breezed over what happened. So the guy With the daughter in the bathtub? Yeah. What happened?
Speaker 1: That guy with the daughter in the bathtub, I don't know where he went. He's part of the database.
Speaker 0: I'm talking about the guy that got arrested in Denver.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's Nathan Larson.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: So Nathan Larson, he got arrested 6 months after the fact, after I hacked this site, after I submitted it to the authorities, to all the news stations, he gets arrested with a 12 year old girl and gets arrested for kidnapping. And I don't think he got charged with rape, but he got the kidnapping charge. Nathan Larson then went to federal prison for that. And, you know, the website went down, and, He sat in prison for, I forget, forget what the sentence was, but it was quite a long time. And to my knowledge, when you're, When you're a person like him, you're going to be separated in a federal prison from the regular inmates.
And, You know, spoiler alert, but Nathan Larson's dead, and the reason why he's dead is due to starvation. The news says that it's suicide. If I had to guess the inmates that were, you know, responsible for feeding him, just let him, you know, starve to death. And I believe he deserved every second of that pain.
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3/8) Parents needs to monitor their children activities on their phone, play station, Xbox, etc or do NOT give them access to any of these because there are predators everywhere targeting them.
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Speaker 1 explains how they hacked into multiple websites and obtained tens of thousands of names. They discuss the creation of their organization, 561 PC, and their mission to expose predators online. They share their first operation using a dating app and how they caught a man who was later released due to a technicality. Speaker 1 mentions that they have gotten multiple people arrested and shares the story of one arrest that was successful. They also mention the challenges they face with the state attorney's office and their efforts to work within the guidelines provided to secure convictions. They encourage viewers to check out their work on Instagram and YouTube.
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Speaker 0: So there's been there's been 5 I'm sorry. There's been 5 other sites that you've cracked into?
Speaker 1: So when I hacked, Rapey, it, Nathan left backups of his previous websites on the same server. So it really only took 1 site To get all 5.
Speaker 0: How many names altogether?
Speaker 1: I'm not I can't give you an exact number. I'm not sure, but it's tens of thousands.
Speaker 0: Tens of thousands of people. And are these people all in where where do you know where they're all at? They're from all over
Speaker 1: the country? Some are international, but most of them are in the country.
Speaker 0: So when did 561 PC start?
Speaker 1: So 561 PC is an organization that I created with a friend. Scrappy is an MMA fighter. It started because of the frustration that nothing happened from this original this whole ordeal. We're talking two and a half years after the fact. I've been looking into information on creditors for organizations on YouTube Anonymously with my name not attached whatsoever, just finding information and sending it over to the organizations, And then they would go and confront them themselves.
And I did that for many organizations, like I said, completely anonymously. I wasn't looking for recognition or my name to be attached to anything. I meet Scrappy, Dustin Lampros, whatever you want to call He's a really good dude. And he Hold on.
Speaker 0: Scrappy is a professional MMA fighter in the UFC, correct?
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't get his call for the UFC yet, But, he's, you know, 8 and 0 undefeated, 7 knockouts. He's he's likely gonna get the call.
Speaker 0: He's on the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And, even Dana White knows who he is, I believe. He's a good dude outside of fighting. He's a very nice guy, gentle heart, You know, religious guy, great person in my eyes.
So he was a good partner to pick for this upcoming project. And I brought up. I was like, hey, man, Do you know how bad it is on the Internet? Like, I told him the story that I just told you. He was blown away by the fact that nothing happened.
And I told him, I said, like, you know, let me show you how bad it is, not just tell you. So I was like, Google search teen chatroom Florida, or it was something similar to that. So we Googled it. I told him, click any chatroom. I don't care which one it is.
He clicked the chat room. He clicked guest. He didn't have to make an account. Made his name, Ashley 13 female Florida, something like that, And just said hi in the chat room. And within 5 minutes, he must have got 40, 50, 60 messages from grown men, some naked, Some have been trying to video chat, some saying that they want to meet up.
Very horrible things, like grown men hanging out in these teen chat rooms. From that point on, he realized how serious this actually was. And I was like, hey, well, you know that it's not just these chat rooms. Most of the time, it's social media apps So like Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Tinder, all of them. It's Anywhere a kid has access to Roblox, Minecraft, their Xbox, when they're talking to their friends, these predators are on everything.
So I said to him, hey, If we get some decoys in there and they, you know, grown women or grown men, they pretend to be children, we can go and try to catch these people and exposed them in real life, just the same way I've been helping organizations for two and a half years do it, except instead of me sending it to them, We'll do it ourselves. We'll at least try our best to clean up our town in South Florida. And he was like, yeah, man, I'm definitely down to do it. And Of course, you know, at first you think when somebody says they're down to do something like that, it's a hit or miss. But he was.
Like, he was on point, ready to go. And we've caught 14 people now in a couple of months of doing it. And local law enforcement, Delray Beach Police, Have been incredible. And we're just going to continue to grow. You know, if anybody's interested in checking that out, it's At 561PC, like 561 predator catchers on Instagram, same as for YouTube.
And, Yeah. You'll find me there, and you'll also find, Scrappy there.
Speaker 0: Let's rewind. What is what was your first operation like? My first what? Your 1st operation. What's the 1st guy you guys caught together as a team?
How did that go down?
Speaker 1: So the 1st guy we caught as a team was just a complete test. Scrappy and I used an app called Grindr, which is a gay dating app For the most part, not not only gay, but mostly gay. And we both used a filter to make ourselves look younger, And we just started talking to any guy that messaged us. We didn't message anybody first. We waited for people to message us.
And 1 guy eventually, within an hour, Decided to talk to us, and we went out and met them, called the cops. And the guy ran to the bathroom. We couldn't film in the bathroom.
Speaker 0: Where'd you meet him?
Speaker 1: Right on Atlantic Avenue in Delray in front of a 1000000 people, and I embarrassed. I screamed at the top of my lungs at what he was there to do. And, you know, I don't do that anymore because you can get disorderly conduct for that. I didn't know that at the time, but, that was my first encounter. Guy just ran to the bathroom.
No one hid until the cops got there. And at that time, the cops had no clue what was going on, so they just let him go.
Speaker 0: Have you gotten anybody arrested?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Multiple people. How many?
Speaker 0: 3 so far. Let's go over the first one that you got arrested. What did that operation look like?
Speaker 1: That one is actually, No, actually, do you mind if I go over the guy that I know the full story of right now? Because some of them are active. So 1 guy, we have a YouTube video, and we made him, you know, did pull up or I'm sorry, we had to do push ups and sit ups, you know, to distract them while the cops were on their way. And, He said that, you know, that the girl had breathing hips, and I believe he said something about wanting to take a shower with her or something like that. And How Florida works is they have the police station, and then they have the state attorney.
Some states have district attorneys. Some states have state attorneys. I think they're the same thing, but they're just Aimed differently. But the state attorney is the one that ultimately makes a decision on the if the person is gonna be convicted or charged with the with these charges. But the cops make the decision on where they're being charged with.
So we meet the guy. He admits to everything You know, that he said in the chat logs. He admits to it maybe even a little bit more. Then he admits it again to the police officers. He goes in the interrogation room.
I send the chat logs and the video to them while they're interrogating. He admits everything to them because it's not evidence until the predator says it. Like, Our evidence isn't valuable because we're vigilantes, so it's not technically evidence unless the police obtain it. So all of that went well. The cops spent, Delray police spent a ton of time building the report out for this guy.
State attorney, you know, was kind of iffy about it, it seemed. And the entirety of the case was thrown out because, There is no shower inside of Walmart, so there's no way he could have showered.
Speaker 0: You've got to be shitting me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So It's a little bit rough. We had a meeting with
Speaker 0: Who's who's responsible for that case getting dropped?
Speaker 1: I don't I know it's the state attorney for whoever Palm Beach count for Palm Beach County. But, yeah, it's I don't know the exact name.
Speaker 0: Is that an elected slot? I
Speaker 1: believe so. We should
Speaker 0: look that name up and post it right here.
Speaker 1: It's wild to me. But the one thing that I can say is that one of the sergeants who used to be a detective I did have a meeting with us right after that and told us what the state attorney would be looking for to secure a conviction. So We are trying to fall within those guidelines now. Like, we call the cops regardless every time, but we're not sure if we're gonna get an arrest or not unless it falls within the guidelines that we're told
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4/8) Here he demonstrates how within seconds how many Child Sex Predators is waiting to engage with a child.
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In this video, the speakers demonstrate how quickly sexual predators can approach children in online chat rooms. They create a fake profile of a 13-year-old girl named Ashley and within seconds, a 47-year-old man starts messaging them. They receive numerous messages from both actual teenagers and potential predators. The speakers emphasize that this problem is not limited to one specific platform, as it occurs on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Kik, WhatsApp, Roblox, Minecraft, Xbox, and PlayStation. They urge parents to be vigilant and monitor their children's online activities to protect them from potential harm. The speakers also mention a real-life incident where someone they know had their daughter blackmailed. They estimate that over 90% of the individuals they interact with are willing to meet in person.
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Speaker 0: You could demonstrate right here, right now how fast these sexual predators predators will show up in a chat room? Yeah. Fire your computer up. Let's do it. Alright.
Speaker 1: I'm recording. So now I'm just gonna say, hi. Who I named myself Ashley female, New Jersey. 13 female, New Jersey. Let's see how many private messages come in.
2 already. 3.
Speaker 0: It's been, like, 10 seconds.
Speaker 1: Yep. Hey. Wonderful around. Hey. How old are you?
Let me just copy that and send that to everybody because we got other messages coming in.
Speaker 0: What chat room are you in?
Speaker 1: Just a teen chat. Hey, you want to cuddle a bit? I mean, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt right now that, That they didn't read the oh, he's 47.
Speaker 0: 47 years old in a teen chat room. You got him in, what, 5 seconds. He's already messaging in.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. There's a ton. I can't even keep up with them here because every time I click 1, there's more on the list. He says he's I said, are you okay with my age? He says, yes.
Age 13, Like my profile says. I got 2 more messages, so now we're at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm 19. Let's ignore the 19 year old even though it's disgusting.
Speaker 0: It hasn't even been 62nd yet.
Speaker 1: Okay. There's another guy. Here's the other guy. This guy's 15. Ignore him.
That is a real teenager in a teen chat. The 47 year old says he said age. I said 13, like my profile says. He said name Ashley. And another guy just messaged.
How old are you? Okay. This person is a child, too. So out of all of these, there's 1 guy here who is 47 years old, less than a minute, who wants to talk to a child in a teen chat. And I only said hi in the chat room, nothing else.
Speaker 0: Holy shit, dude. You you jumped in a chat room. You called yourself Ashley 13, New Jersey. Literally less than 10 seconds. We have a 47 year old one that wanted to have sex with a with a 13 year old girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. That's how quick it is. Like, I Googled teen chat. I'm in a different state, so I get different results here for, you know, the local teen chats there's no way for me to set it up, you know?
All I did was say hi in the chat room and press enter, and You know, a bunch of messages came in. Some were from actual teenagers, as it should be in a teen chat. And, one of the guys which, you know, who knows if they really are teenagers? That's another thing. But One guy was open about that he was 47 years old, and he was completely fine with the age.
Speaker 0: Where where all is this happening? Is this happening? Just list off where this is happening that's that that everyday people use all the time.
Speaker 1: Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Kik, WhatsApp, Roblox, Minecraft, Xbox, PlayStation.
Speaker 0: Xbox and PlayStation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can chat with random people in games. They could represent themselves as whoever they want. Yeah. I mean, it's just the list goes on. Anywhere where a human can communicate with Other human, the child is not safe, so parents need to be watching that, and not just assuming, like, You know, if your kid says, hey, I'm on the phone with my friend, which friend is it?
Is it one that I know? You can't be scared of being a helicopter parent because if your kid's aggravated at you for a couple of minutes for being overprotective in these scenarios, I think it's worth it's not your fault regardless of what happens, but to save them from a life of trauma, I think it might be worth The extra couple minutes are aggravating your kid to see who they're actually talking to, see who their friends really are, and Just spend that extra time because it could it could save a lifelong battle with trauma.
Speaker 0: This happened to somebody I know in in Parkland. You know, remember I used to live in Boca, so I got a lot of friends down there. Mhmm. Happened in Parkland. He's got a daughter, Couple daughters.
And she was she she was blackmailed by somebody and had taken pictures. And It's it's it's everywhere just as you just demonstrated it. I mean, 10 10 seconds. Less than 10 seconds, and he and he's on there. Yeah.
Is this is this the case every single time?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Some of the guys want to chat for longer before they meet up in person. But, yeah, it's it's that easy. It's it's not good that it's easy, but it is that easy to to find them.
They're out there, and they are They're they're being predatory, like, you know, like the named states. How
Speaker 0: I don't I don't know what to call it. I don't want to call it a success rate. But what is the percentage of People that you're talking to on here that will come and meet?
Speaker 1: Depends on how long you talk to them and if you can convince them that you're not a Police officer.
Speaker 0: Would you say the majority of them?
Speaker 1: Way more than the majority, yeah.
Speaker 0: 90%? Yeah. Over 90%?
Speaker 1: It depends if they ask to meet or not yet because sometimes it takes a while for them to chat. So I would say, yeah, like, if they if they ask to meet, 90 per 95% plus if they ask to meet up.
Speaker 0: 95%, you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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5/8)He talks about how Project Veritas got involved with this. Also how some States like California wants to normalize Pedophilia.
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The speaker discusses their collaboration with Project Veritas to expose individuals involved in illegal activities. They mention focusing on Nathan Larson's websites and investigating those on the list. The process involves gathering information through open source intelligence and organizing a team to confront and gather evidence against these individuals. They mention a recent confrontation with John Lewis, who admitted to soliciting and being a member of Telegram groups involved in illegal activities. The speaker expresses concern about states like California trying to normalize such behavior and mentions Florida's attempt to pass a bill for the death penalty in sex crimes against children. They express frustration and disbelief at the support for such actions.
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Speaker 0: Podcast and me talking about the website, and they were interested. And they said, well, I wanna help you bring justice to this, to to what the other stations failed to to bring justice to, and the FBI even failed to, or everybody failed me. I felt like they failed me. And Project Veritas said, hey, well, we will do something about this. We'll put our whole team on it.
We're going to bring light to this. We're going to bring these people out of the dark corners of the earth. And it made me feel like, okay, I have a team here. You know, I have people that are willing to, you know, fly across the country and meet me in a 24 hour notice, which they did, to have a conversation. They flew me out to New York to do an interview, you know, just off my word.
You know, I could have been lying. I could have been a member of this. Who knows what they they didn't know who I was. So they just took my word for it, and they gave me the most compassion and love, more compassion and love than I would have ever expected and still are to this
Speaker 1: day. What is this collaboration between you and them look like? How are they You're obviously feeding them all the information that you've uncovered so far.
Speaker 0: Are you
Speaker 1: still getting more information?
Speaker 0: So right now we're going off the data that I already have, which is so much, especially with Nathan Larson's websites. The one we're focusing on at the moment is rapy.co and.to. So anyone that was on that list is going to be investigated. We have all of their information or ways to find it. So we're just going to go down that list to keep exposing them in person, and We found quite a few already.
So it's only going to get more extreme, especially as the team gets bigger. And hopefully, We do some justice, put some more in prison, uncover some secrets.
Speaker 1: How are you guys? So they sent me so this interview is timed perfectly. When Project Veritas starts to release this information, we're right behind them. We've talked to them. We're collaborating with them.
Mhmm. We wanna just dump gas and amplify what you guys are doing to get this word out. So what does this collaboration look like between you and them? You're feeding them the information. And then how are they reaching out to these guys?
And How are they getting them to come in and confess to this stuff?
Speaker 0: So they have their own ways of dealing with undercover operations and like filming undercover. But when we find the information on the people, we're going off the database, we're taking the information per user, we're tying that to We have some archived images of when the website did exist. So we could say this user said this at this time or replied to this at that time, figure out who that user is and then organize a team to go out there and meet them. But the process of finding out who they are is called OSINT or open source intelligence. And Project Veritas has been doing that already for years as well as me.
It's specialize in. And OSINT and obviously being a hacker, it just comes with the territory. So So working together as a team, finding these people has been, you know, no different than what I would do on a daily basis, except it's just making a bigger impact.
Speaker 1: How many guys have you guys put in prison so far?
Speaker 0: I don't think I can talk about that part yet.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: Yeah. We'll
Speaker 1: wait. Let's talk about the John Lewis confrontation. Yep. He was on rapy.t. O website with his email link to it.
He says he found the website through a Telegram group.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First, He admits to having a fetish to young children, went to therapy for help with that addiction, has gone has been going for many years and has made a little Progress with his addiction
Speaker 0: addiction to porn. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about that interview at all? Have you seen that?
Speaker 0: Yeah, I watched the interview, and the guy is in a facility for his addiction to porn but was completely cognizant and coherent. It wasn't like a mental health case where he didn't know right from wrong. He definitely was fully aware of what he was doing. Like I said, he's one of 7,000 on that list, But he did admit on an undercover camera that he was to child, he was soliciting and that he was a member of not only but those Telegram groups I mentioned earlier that were trading and soliciting. He admitted all of that clear as day on camera.
So that will be forwarded along to the police, and, we'll see what happens from there. But that was very recent, his confrontation.
Speaker 1: The application question to join the group, We've already gone over this. If a man wants to his 3 year old daughter in every while she is, do you have a problem with that? Please elaborate on your thought process so we can better judge your suitability for this site. John Lewis's response, I do have a problem with that. That's disgusting.
Then they expose the conversation, make a video in the school basement denied it. It was a lie, denied receipt in the past. He only admits to having seen but did not distribute it and then and then confessed to have looked or seen images, never physically acting on those urges and then later confessed.
Speaker 0: Right. And says that he never did any of that. And what he says that he did on the form, he legitimately says that he kid in the basement across from the school. And just by chance, that's where he lives, across from the school where his parents live. So, you know, he could say he didn't or he did, but the fact that he admitted to like, I've been in some very, very tough spots in my life, but I've never thought about a child ever.
That's and I I doubt you have either. It's It's, if if I don't trust anything you say. Yeah. You know? So if you tell me on a forum that get in the basement, you probably the basement.
That's that's what I'm gonna safely assume.
Speaker 1: Do you know what happened to this guy?
Speaker 0: That's like I said, that one's so new that I'm not sure what's going to happen him. But hopefully
Speaker 1: he's still out there right now, though.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How do we solve this shit, man?
Speaker 0: There's no way to solve it, for sure. It's never going to go away. And unfortunately, we have some states that are trying to normalize it. We have states that are trying to make it a sexual orientation. And then we have other states like
Speaker 1: What states?
Speaker 0: California being the main one that I know of.
Speaker 1: What are they doing? They're trying
Speaker 0: to make it a sexual orientation. I think they're calling it something attracted minors or something,
Speaker 1: minor to track it. They're making it okay. We need to accept. So now we need to accept people who are little kids.
Speaker 0: Yes. That's what they're trying to do. Accept that now. Yeah. California is one state that they're trying to make it part of a sexuality to be attracted to children.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a sexuality to be attracted to children. Do you know any of the other states that are doing this?
Speaker 0: I could Google it, but and California is, is the main one that I know of.
Speaker 1: Not surprising.
Speaker 0: Yeah, not surprising.
Speaker 1: Not surprising at all.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So that blows my mind that that's even a thought. Then there's people that defend these guys as it's a mental illness, it's a sickness, it's this, it's that. I don't care what it is because it affects somebody else. You know, it's going to ruin somebody's life forever.
Speaker 1: Why do you think these states are pushing the shit?
Speaker 0: I don't know. I don't know. But Florida, I'll give you a good example. I mean, the sentence is trying to pass a bill to issue the death penalty for sex crimes against children?
Speaker 1: From what I understand, that's in place. Is that in place now?
Speaker 0: Is it locked in? I mean, it must have been recent, if so, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to misspeak, but the way I understood it is that it is in there now and that if you're doing this shit and you get caught, They're going to fucking kill you.
Speaker 0: I love that.
Speaker 1: Why why is it a
Speaker 0: That should be the case everywhere, My opinion Why
Speaker 1: are all the Democrat states trying to legalize this shit and make this normal? I don't fucking understand that.
Speaker 0: I don't
Speaker 1: know. I don't know how you can vote for that shit. I don't know how you can affiliate with that shit. I don't know how you can think it's okay. It's fucking disgusting.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you. I agree with you. They're not realizing kids.
Yeah. They're creating people
Speaker 1: And people are voting this shit in. Yeah. Fucking Newsom, Gavin Newsom got recalled, and they voted him in again. And look at this shit. Now he's making this shit normal?
I mean, I hate to get fucking political, but what the fuck is wrong with these people?
Speaker 0: I agree with you. Hear.
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6/8) Here he talks about monitoring your children’s phone with Apps that can read their text, lock down parts of their phones that you don’t want them to be on, their app usage, know where they are at, at all times. This app is like you having your child’s phone, but you have more access than your child.
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A speaker expresses concern about receiving a disturbing message from a stranger and emphasizes the need for education to prevent such incidents. They also mention their willingness to assist organizations combating human trafficking and sexual assault. The speaker discusses the benefits of parental monitoring apps, which allow parents to track their child's location, read their text messages, and control certain aspects of their phone usage. They highlight the alarming statistics of sexual assault among minors and stress the importance of using these apps. The concern of the interviewer is whether the apps can be easily manipulated, but the speaker believes it is currently difficult to do so. They share an example of catching someone using a fake identity online.
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Speaker 0: Hey. It's, I I can't explain. I wish I could. I wish I could explain why we just got a message in 10 seconds in a random chat room from a 47 year old man wanting to, but I have no explanation. All I know is that we need to find a way for parents to be educated and for kids when they get old enough to be educated so that this doesn't happen to them.
That's all I know that I could do. And the only other thing I know I could do outside of educating parents, schools, children is help some organizations out that take human trafficking and victims of any type of sexual assault, whether they're children or adults. Like, I have the resources and the team and the the skill set to be able to help people. I just need those people to be put in place, as well as, let's say, parents monitoring their child on an app. You know, I have some ideas in my head for apps, but I don't want to plug a specific app if I don't know if great.
Or if I can trust them. So
Speaker 1: Even if you don't plug it if you even if you don't plug an app, Ryan, what do these apps do? So if I put this app on my son's phone, what do I get?
Speaker 0: So you're going to know where he's at at all times. You're going to be able to read his text messages. You'll be able to check his app usage, you'd be able to, you know, lock down certain parts of the phone that you don't want him to to be on, and just basically as if you have access to the phone, but you have more access than I think it's more important to do that and have your kid aggravated at you than, like I said, the latter.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I would 100% agree
Speaker 0: with you.
Speaker 1: So basically, these apps,
Speaker 0: like, 1 in 10 people before the age of 18 are sexually assaulted and 40% are 12 years old or under?
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
Speaker 0: 40% 40% are under 12. So it's important to do this stuff.
Speaker 1: So with these apps, So the way I'm understanding what you're saying is if I put one of these apps on anybody's phone, I basically get control, just like you were talking about earlier, people's computer. I can control everything they're doing. What they're looking at.
Speaker 0: It's like a commercial remote access trojan.
Speaker 1: How easy is it to manipulate the app? I mean, because here's my concern. I'm getting old And my son's going to be a lot more tech savvy than I am. Right. So he's going to learn how to defeat that.
Speaker 0: Yeah, for sure. So I don't think that it's going to be easy as of right now. I know it's not easy. I know of 1 that my uncle is using, and it hasn't been beaten by his daughter. So I don't think it'll be that easy.
Nothing's impossible, you know, they could always get on a computer, which there's other ways to protect the computer. If it was me as a kid, maybe I'd get a little more That's what I like to do. I like to have computers. But I don't know. It would stop me and make me second guess what I was doing if I knew my parents or parent was watching everything that I was doing online?
I would second guess my conversations and who I talked to. I'll give you one example. A guy was talking to our decoy. This is like the 2nd or 3rd person that we caught talking to our decoy in a normal chat room, not like that, like a regular social media site, and was using a photo of some guy that was in a band as his profile photo using a fake phone number, fake age, and a fake name. We were like, we can't find information on him.
We can meet up with him, but we're not going to know anything about the guy. So We eventually got the decoy to get the guy to send pictures of his face. He sent some real pictures of his face. I was able to find him on the Internet, found a real name, found that he was not the age that he said, not the name that he said, that he wasn't even using his real photos. He booked He even actually ordered pizza to the hotel room thinking that he was meeting with an 11 year old at that time.
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7/8) Here they talk about the difference a Governor can make and the example is California Vs Florida. In California Child Predator are protected while in Florida Child Predator will be put down. Also he tells two stories about a predator they caught and another about getting a letter from the Child Predator’s Attorney…
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California governor Gavin Newsom signed a law allowing judges to decide whether to list someone as a sex offender for consensual sex with a minor aged 14 or older. In Florida, Governor Ron DeSantis signed a bill allowing juries to impose the death sentence even if not all 12 jurors agree. Another predator was caught in Delray Beach, Florida, and a letter was received from a lawyer representing a predator, requesting the removal of a video exposing the predator's face and offering $1,000 to support the cause. The lawyer also offered future legal assistance if needed. The email will be kept in case of a lawsuit.
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Speaker 0: A couple weeks ago this is dated October 12, 2020. A couple weeks ago, California governor Gavin Newsom signed a law that would allow judges to decide whether or not to list someone as a sex offender for having or with a minor. According to the bill, it only applies to consensual sex, whether it be between a minor 14 years old or or or older. So as long as they're 14, you're good in California. Well, I guess Yeah.
Speaker 1: They believe it's good. Central.
Speaker 0: It's up to the go. And then the Florida thing. This is April 20, 2023. This is from ABC News. They're really upset about s, if you read the whole article, but Florida governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday signed a bill that will allow juries to impose the death sentence even if all 12 jurors do not agree.
He is also likely to approve a second bill passed by the lawmakers on Tuesday, next Tuesday, that would make sexual battery of a 12 year old of I'm sorry. Sexual battery of a child under the age of 12, a death penalty offense. It's quite the difference between the, two states there.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 0: I know where I'd wanna live. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I and I do live in Florida and and totally agree with, what he's what he's trying to do.
Speaker 0: Still I just can't believe people are into this shit.
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah. I do it I do it every day, and, I I still can't believe it.
Speaker 0: A man in Delray Beach
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: Who then was later caught. And then we also talked about a letter that you got from a I don't wanna say a gentleman's attorney, a pedophile's attorney Right. Basically standing up for him, trying to pay you. I'll I'll leave it to you from here.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the So I'll start with the guy. The video as of recording now isn't on our YouTube channel. But By the time this this is released, people will be able to watch this this man's video. He showed up, after talking to our decoy and, you know, talking sexually, he was fully aware of the age. I looked into the guy.
The guy went to school to be a teacher. He has a bachelor's in teaching, teaching to some degree. I don't know what specific topic or if teaching is just a degree, but he is a teacher. He taught at 2 different schools. What schools?
I have them, on my computer. I I don't have them off the top of my head.
Speaker 0: Local Florida schools?
Speaker 1: One is an online tutor school, and another one is not. So, but he has 2 2 properties, 1 in Massachusetts and one in Florida. He showed up to me. His name was Brent. And I walked up to him with the camera, scrappy behind me, and we called his name, and, the guy just starts walking away while he's on the phone with our decoy.
And we're like, hey. We we have all your information. We know where you live. We know you're, like, we you know, instead of just saying, we know where you live. We're giving him the address.
We're telling him what you know, his name. We're telling him where he's worked. We're telling him age. Like, This guy knew that we knew who he was, and he kept walking and kept walking. Then he goes into a full sprint.
He's full sprinting through the Walmart, and, You know, I I'm not a big runner, so, I just start chasing after him. You know? I'm I'm running as fast as I can to, to catch up with him. I got the camera in my hand, and I'm screaming at the guy saying, you know, what are you what are you doing here? Like, what's going through your head?
Guy gets in his car. He drives away. Didn't get a word out of the guy, so we thought, okay. Let's just report it to the police. We'll put the video up.
It'll just be a short video. We'll attach some of the chat logs that people see he was a teacher, and I thought that was the end of it. A couple of days later, I get a text message from a friend says, hey. Didn't you just catch this guy? Her name's Courtney Elizabeth.
She's a predator catcher. She she texted me a screenshot from another predator catcher 1200 miles away in Pennsylvania. So we're in Florida originally. This guy drove to Pennsylvania for whatever reason. I don't know why he was there, if he was on his way to Massachusetts.
I don't know what he was doing there, got caught again by another predator catching group, and, and I I reached out to that that that predator catcher, Luzerne County predator catcher. He does his county and is is known in that specific area, and he sent me all the chat logs. One of the chat logs said that he was chased out of Walmart by 2 police officers, and the guy has no idea who we were because we didn't get a chance to say, You know, we didn't get to get a chance to even tell them what we were do tell him what we were doing. So just you know, The point of the matter is he didn't get the point the first time. He likely ran from Florida because he thought he was being investigated or wanted by the police.
And then you also have to think, if he got caught twice by 2 predator catchers, which is not the most common, you know, profession or niche in the world, how many times this man hasn't been has not been caught. So it's disgusting, you know, that he's a teacher and disgusting that he'd do it twice, but just Think of the amount of times this man has probably not been caught. So that was that was one thing. And then we caught another guy that I wanted to I wanted to reference. We caught another guy, named Steven.
Well, he went to his job. We asked for him. What was his job? He was, He's a manager at a, seafood restaurant. And we showed up there.
We sat at the table. He was supposed to meet with with our decoy. At that point, is 13 or 14 years old. If my memory serves me correctly, And, he bailed last 2nd that day. A lot of times these guys will bail, and then they'll come back, or, you know, they they never really disappear because they can't they can't control themselves.
This guy was very sexual. He said that he wanted, he wanted our decoy to sit on his face. He wanted her to come back to his house. Horrible things. So we were like, you know what?
We're not gonna let this guy just bail and disappear. We know where he works. We have his information. Let's just go there, order 2 glasses of water. We know he's the manager, so he'll come up after we request the manager, and we'll bring him outside and have a conversation.
So we did that. He was fully aware that it was being recorded, and, everything, you know, it was very transparent what was going on. We asked questions, he told us the answers to them. He knew he weren't police. He knew he was free to go at any time, and he offered a ton of information that was up to him.
Said that gets over with. Police come. We give the police all the information that we have, and some time goes by and I get an email, which the original email was saying to take the video down off of the off of the Internet. Originally, that went to Scrappy's cell phone, and he didn't see it at first. But then when he did, he sent it to me, And then I replied to it, but the 1st email was straight to the point, like, take this video down.
It's in violation of this statute of the privacy laws of Florida. And last time I checked, you can record in public. You have no expectation of privacy in a public place, audio or video. And so I wasn't too concerned about the threat from the law firm who's representing our creditor. So I sent the reply back, and I said, take a look at the person that you are representing.
Here are the chat logs if you want if you wanna be clear, Because I didn't release them with the video, so the attorney could read all of the horrible things that the guy not only admitted in the video, but that he said himself in the chats with pictures of his face. Then they reply a few days later, and I'll read to you their reply. They said, thank you for your response. In accordance with Florida statute 934.03, we are requesting that you remove the video. As stated in my previous email, this video is exposing mister Blank to an increased risk of physical harm.
In the video, you have exposed his face in full name without his consent, which is a violation of privacy laws. See below. And then this is from the statute. In Florida, it's illegal to scored an in person or telephone conversation without the consent of all parties. Violating this law constitutes either a misdemeanor or third degree felony depending on the offender's hint and conviction history can also subject the offender to civil damages.
And then at the bottom, This is the kicker. We respect everything that you do and acknowledge your mission of doing what is right and protecting the public. In fact, We would like to offer you $1,000 to support your cause and for the administrative costs for the removal. I will also be at your service if you need our help in the future if you face any legal issues with your channel. Again, we're not looking for a battle.
We're looking for your help. Respectfully blank. So I will not release their firm's name. I don't respect the fact that they're representing a predator, But, they haven't filed a lawsuit against me at this point. If they do, this email is is in my possession.
It was sent to me. I can release this email. It's not a threat by any means, but I will release it to let the public know that, you know, somebody's representing a predator and trying to make my life and Scrappy's life more difficult, about exposing a local predator. And then number 2, the fact that they said that they would want to represent us. Why would we ever want legal advice from somebody that would take most likely $500?
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8/8) Here they talk about building a database where you can enter a person’s name or face to see if they have been involved in these sick activities. Everyone if possibly needs to bring awareness to this matter to help prevent more victims. This is a battle between #GoodVsEvils #SaveTheChildren
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In this video, the speakers discuss the severity of online predators and propose a solution to combat them. They suggest creating a public database with information on individuals associated with these sites, including names, addresses, and pictures. They believe that this database would help people, such as schools, businesses, and parents, to easily identify potential predators. They also express their frustration with attorneys who defend predators and advocate for shaming them. The speakers emphasize the importance of citizen collaboration in exposing and eliminating predators, and they commend the efforts of individuals like Ryan Montgomery and Matt Murphy. They conclude by urging viewers to speak up and reach out to organizations like 0 Day and Project Veritas for assistance.
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Speaker 0: You know, it's it's something to try to wrap your head around and and and and understand the severity and how much this shit happens. But moving on, let's get into some good news. Let's talk about how we solve this thing, which seems when you look at it and you see you can enter just any chat room and somebody shows up in 5 seconds to
Speaker 1: Literally, within 10 seconds, we had that message. Or it might have been 5. We'll find out.
Speaker 0: And, yeah, we'll find out on the video when we edit. But but, you know, that just to bring some hope to people, you know, we we actually videographer came up with a with a great option, at least a start. And, he was saying you make a database. You know, we pull all of your information intelligence that you've yanked out of these out of these sites And hopefully, you'll continue to exploit these sites, with that information and make a database, a public database that has all the people that are associated with these sites, names, addresses, pictures, if we can get them, all of it. And then people, schools, businesses, people that are looking to hire, parents, anybody can just go under this database, type in a name, see if it pops up.
Speaker 1: Or a face.
Speaker 0: Or a face. Yeah. Or both. I think I think that's a phenomenal idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. I mean, like we were saying on the break, it's not like these people are innocent by there's no possible chance of them being innocent. There's chat logs of them talking sexually to what they believe is a minor. And then there's video evidence of them showing up there at the time they say they're going to be there, most of the time on the phone with what they think is a child while they're walking through the store or through a public place to meet who they think is a kid. So the database of, you know, if a cop can't, you know, if a cop can't get a charge to stick or the state attorney doesn't want to go through with the case, Well, then the public should know regardless because then they can make their decision based on the evidence that was gathered by the public.
Speaker 0: Who knows this subject and you wanna help, reach out to 0 Day. Reach out to Project Veritas. Shit. Reach out to us. Yeah.
All those links will be in the description. But, yeah, I think that would be you know what else I think? We should shame the attorneys who are representing predators.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I think it's ridiculous. I mean, there's no money in the world that you could pay me to get rid of this information, to stop the journey that I'm on right now? I don't care what you offered me.
It's not happening. It's not worth it. I care too much about kids. I don't even have a kid. And again, off the break, I said, I don't know how I'm going to act when I have a kid.
I'm already crazy. And, you know, it's about my friends' kids. I need to find a balance between being a crazy parent and, you know, and letting my kid have their own space because I'm just I'm terrified. Yeah, me too. You know,
Speaker 0: I don't know. I just I don't even. The stuff really gets to me and and when we connected, I told you my goal this year is to dive into this subject bring a lot of awareness to it. And, man, this shit eats me alive. You know?
But and then you breed stuff like what California is doing. And and it's it's I mean, they're they're they're making this, they're trying to normalize it.
Speaker 1: So if
Speaker 0: you're a pedo, move to California.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. Move that.
Speaker 0: If you're not down with that move out of California, like it's it's getting to be that simple. You know, they're gonna look what's going on there, you know, everything, the whole anyways, whatever. But, you know, I wanna I really want your word to get out, and I wanna connect you with some people. I wanna connect you with my friend, Matt Murphy, who's doing operation light shine. He's making a huge dent in this stuff.
I think I think how this ends, obviously, government's not gonna get involved. Right. Especially in particular states I guess, Florida is getting involved. Florida might, yeah. But whatever, government moves as slow as a snail.
So I think what it's gonna be is it's gonna be this collaborative effort from citizens, people like you, people like Matt Murphy, going after these guys. There's other organizations out there, and it's this big it's turning into this big collaborative effort, you know, to get rid of these people and expose what they're doing and educate the public on how to keep your kids safe. And just, Ryan, just with what you're doing. I think I may have brought this up at the beginning. But I mean, if you think about the impact that you're having, you know, you're educating kids.
Kids are gonna wise up to this stuff. That's gonna drop the numbers. Parents are gonna be listening to this. They're gonna wise up to this. That's gonna drop numbers.
Predators are gonna watch this and realize were coming for them. We are heavily. And they're gonna get scared, and some of them are gonna stop. So just by doing this show this 1 show, it's gonna stop a it's gonna stop a handful. It's gonna it's going to save at least 1 kid.
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that 1 kid is good with me.
Speaker 0: I want to also actually already sent a text, but I want to introduce you to a podcast that's, they do phenomenal work. It's called Concrete. It's run. Their host is a guy named Danny Jones. I think he's somewhere in the Tampa area.
Speaker 1: Okay. I'd
Speaker 0: love to connect you with him. I haven't I haven't even met them in person, but I'm a huge fan of their podcast. That's one that I watch. They
Speaker 1: got beat and stuff. I've seen it with, I met one of the, one of the guys.
Speaker 0: Oh, good.
Speaker 1: I didn't meet any of the I'm sorry, the producers of the show, somebody that was interviewed. Of He was a fraud guy. But
Speaker 0: Oh. Yeah. Well, I'd like to introduce you to them because I think they'll I think they will have the courage to help you get the word out. I'm actually going on his show here pretty soon, and I wanna make that connection too, because that guy, he does some really, really, really good work. And I'd love to make all 3 of those connections with Matt Concrete Guys and Julian Dorian.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that Much. And, the more noise we make, the better. And like I said, the resources that I have and the abilities that I have and the abilities my team has, especially with cybersecurity company and my hacking team combined, the more resources, the more we can do. I mean, it's very simple. If I don't have access to these missions.
I don't have access to some tips or what. I can't do anything. Yeah.
Speaker 0: To end this, I'm Speak up about it. Get in touch with Ryan Montgomery. All your links are gonna be in the description. 0 day, your Instagram, with a 0, not spelled 0, 561 PC, that'll be linked. Project Veritas and everything that they're doing, all that stuff's gonna be linked in the description.
And if you don't wanna reach out to them, you can reach out to us, and we'll put you in contact with them because they're the ones doing the real work. And, this is how we battle this shit. You've got to speak up. You've got to get to people that can lead you to the right people. And we've got to expose these people, the predators.
Man, what a heavy subject.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Unbelievable.
Speaker 0: What do you got coming up?
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully this release comes out, and I have some people reaching out and not entirely sure I want to do them Based on some some things we just researched. But, yeah. Yeah. More to come. More to come.
It's I think that, I'll start with your connections.
Speaker 0: Right on, man. Well, Ryan, I just wanna say, man, it's it's you're just a great human, helping addiction, helping people that are addicts out. And then it morphed into this. And, you obviously have a heart of gold, and it shows. And and Nice.
I'm just proud to know.
Speaker 1: Likewise, man. Likewise. Thank you. All right, brother.
Speaker 0: Best of luck, and I'll see you soon.
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Police defamed, threatened, and falsely charged sex abuse victims to protect a convicted child predator. The cover-up extended to state and federal levels. The victim's dreams were shattered, losing everyone they knew. They lived a humble life, finding solace in music and surviving through train hopping. Despite the hardships, they found closure when the predator was arrested. Their future remains uncertain, but they have rebuilt their life multiple times.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
If the police are willing to defame, threaten, intimidate, persecute, and falsely charge sex abuse victims with frivolous charges to try and enforce silence, discredit and are willing to protect a convicted child predator, child porn producer, Eric Allen Glosson. https://t.co/Lu9HkTVcvu
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
What else are they willing to do? keep in mind that this happened at a very local level, a small city in an low pop state, not only did this happen at a low level ignored at that level, it was escalated to the highest levels of Gov't by me. State, multi-state (Colorado and Utah)
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
and Federal. I don't think I'm a hot shot or any thing but I had a fair shot at a future at one point, before all this happened, I was always never a big deal, I moved a lot, I had few friends, few instances of recognition. I had a slew of issues before, during and after.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
So not only did the local try to cover it up, the State and Federal Tried to at the very least ignore it.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
Why? I know I'm just one person, but they genuinely ruined my life, not like I was going to change the world any thing back then, my dreams before all this was to fly planes and that was probably a long shot for me under the best of conditions.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
If any thing I was catalyzed by all of this, the very credibility they sought to destroy they insured. Eventually given time, all those that personally persecuted me eventually sought to make amends with me.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
Honestly I can say the worst part of all this is losing absolutely everyone I have ever had. I was going to try to list the avenues of varying loss and degrees however they are innumerable. I connect to this world through less than 10 people, other than that it is me in the void
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
Few would care, none would be impacted, if I were to vanish or perish right now in this instance. There would be more people silently celebrating than mourning, I have already met my own mortality more times than I should of survived, and that was kind of the point.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
It's an easy thing to rattle off that "I hopped freight trains for 7 1/2 years" but it is incomprehensible unless you've experienced it, and even then no one experience would be the same. with in the terms of train hopping/ hobo's I was still an outlier, even then I was a loner.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
I am used to being nobody, a person ruminating and lamenting behind a silly name that makes shitty memes from one of the darkest places humanity can have the misfortune to venture, a mad man's tangential ramblings to most, my self included, if we're being honest.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
I never thought I would have to worry about a long life, for as long as I can recall I have been steeped in unrelenting loss and death, It was only natural to me that I would be next, I lived ambivalent to whether or not I lived or died, it was irrelevant to me, really.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
I lived a humble life, mostly preoccupied by smoking cigarettes, walking my dog, and riding freight trains, not getting in trouble, not getting into fights, not getting addictions, not getting sucked under freight trains.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
I learned quickly that it was irrelevant as to where I was, only that I was in a state of motion. Now when I say I didn't care if I lived or died, I mean it, but that does not mean I was careless, I was extremely diligent in all my actions. Happily circling the drain.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
It wouldn't of mattered if i lived or died, I had already done what I had thought was needed of me, I said my piece to everyone I could think of regarding what I went through and Eric was arrested, serving 4x life sentences. I have my peace in that.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
I don't have much of a future, that's pretty easy to say, even if I had unlimited funds, it would have almost no impact on my life, how I feel about it, I've already been rich 2 or 3 times in my life. I don't mean that colloquially, it is a literal statement.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
I have restarted my life from scratch at ground zero 11 times at least. When I was homeless I spent 20-30$ on dog food, 10-20$ on tobacco, maybe 20-50$ on food, 0-10$ on transportation, and I think that's about all I had for expenses. Not going to sit her and mentally audit 8ys.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
Now how much I made was variable, mainly I would make my way to whatever area had the best foot traffic I could get to, it's always more fun when you can talk to people rather than standing on a traffic medium waiting for the cops to come say "tsch:you can't do that here".
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
I made most of my money busking, I've always liked singing even though I've always hated hearing my own voice, I got my first guitar from a girl named Jessica in san luis obispo. Honestly I would have been a completely isolated and decrepit feral creature if not for music.
@Ayywallmaos - Ayywallmaos
If busking wasn't an option, I would relegate my self to crackspanging, and if that wasn't an option I would stand on the median waiting for the cops to come say "tsch:you can do that here"
reSee.it AI Summary
Title: Disturbing Evidence of Alleged Child Abuse Connected to Pizzagate
Content: This article presents two video clips, discovered in 2020, that allegedly depict instances of child abuse. One clip features audio of a distressed young girl, reportedly involving John Podesta. The other clip shows a distressed boy in a shower with unidentified individuals. Although no nudity is shown, the boy is seen wearing swimwear. These videos are believed to be connected to the infamous pizzagate conspiracy theory. Despite attempts to report the evidence to authorities, little action has been taken. The original uploader used the handle @blazealan, and the files were leaked under the false name Worldcorp Enterprises. Please share this post to raise awareness and seek justice for the victims.
@realDavidBauer - David Bauer
Warning: Graphic Content (To X Admins: This is criminal evidence. Please don't delete this.) This one video is a combination of two clips I found in 2020. I'm posting this on the X platform in the hopes that justice will be done. One is audio of allegedly John Podesta with a young girl in distress. The other is with unknown persons at a shower with a boy in distress. Nudity is not shown in these clips. The girl is not visible. The boy is wearing what appears to be swimwear. They are allegedly from pizzagate. The average person's response seems to be to look away, but I urge you not to. The victims deserve justice. Background of how I found those videos: I was researching the Hunter Biden laptop content at http://gtv.org. I played a video which apparently was unrelated to Hunter Biden. In that video, there was a reference shown on the screen to https://archive.org/details/worldcorp-enterprises-archive/ I paused the video and typed that URL into a browser and found a group of video files. None of those old links are active any more. The original uploader used the handle @blazealan at http://archive.org. It appears the offending files were leaked to http://archive.org in various places under the false name Worldcorp Enterprises. When I first found those files, I investigated, and ultimately stumbled upon a small group of investigators that already knew about it. I was told that those files were connected to pizza gate. That the shower area matched the location at Comet Pizza. And that the FBI already had this material a few years before and did nothing because of the connection to John Podesta. Thinking that I would get nowhere with the FBI, I then submitted the evidence to the U.S. Marshals, because it was my understanding that they had a child trafficking division. They reviewed the evidence, and their response to me was basically that it wasn't the type of crime they handle and that I should contact the FBI. I have shared this information online multiple times, and each time, links and content containing evidence are removed. I'm now sharing it here. John Podesta voice sample of him shouting for comparison: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Eoi_Ar2KDwo… If you are outraged as I am and care about justice for these children, please share this post. Tag: @dom_lucre, @LizCrokin
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@MEStatePolice - Maine State Police
The Maine State Police is releasing this official statement regarding recent alleged child exploitation evidence being given to our teams. https://t.co/TSyerOZbFJ
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
This you guys? https://t.co/dxHFIT6Ai1
@MEStatePolice - Maine State Police
The Maine State Police is releasing this official statement regarding recent alleged child exploitation evidence being given to our teams. https://t.co/TSyerOZbFJ
@PPoachersTV - Predator Poachers TV
Child predator incriminates himself before his wife can stop him and gets ARRESTED! 📍Hendersonville, Tennessee https://t.co/HrXAPcnV3W
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In this video, Speaker 1 confronts Dennis Gilliam about his alleged involvement in certain Signal and Telegram groups. Dennis claims to have no knowledge of these groups and suggests that he may have been added without his consent. Speaker 1 believes Dennis is not the creator of these groups and wants to collaborate in identifying the real culprits. They discuss the possibility of Dennis being transferred to these groups through links posted on Facebook. Speaker 1 emphasizes that their main focus is finding the individuals responsible for creating and participating in these groups, rather than accusing Dennis.
Additionally, the video discusses how the speaker was led to various groups on Signal through provocative photos on Facebook. They mention that both boys and girls are being posted in these groups, with mainly women being posted in the videos. The age range of individuals in the groups is mostly teens and twenties. The speaker admits to clicking on links and seeing pictures and videos but claims to have quickly exited when uncomfortable. They mention that the groups are primarily in Spanish and that they have seen links with pictures and videos being posted. However, the frequency of inappropriate content being posted in the groups remains uncertain.
The video also features a conversation between Speaker 1, Speaker 2, and Speaker 3. Speaker 1 confronts Speaker 2 about his alleged involvement in groups that post explicit content involving minors. Speaker 2 denies any knowledge or intent to view such content, but Speaker 1 presses for more information. Speaker 3, who is also present, shares that he has grandchildren and works in mental health. The conversation becomes tense as Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 2 of clicking on videos featuring young children. Speaker 2 admits to accidentally clicking on such videos multiple times. The conversation continues with Speaker 1 explaining their organization's work and Speaker 2's involvement. The video ends with Speaker 2 deleting evidence from his phone.
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Speaker 0: If you wanna support the predator poachers catching the sickest both near and far, go to the pinned comment. If you're on Rumble, press the red join button to see over 30 videos early and uncensored for only $8 a month. We can't do this without your help, so join our locals.
Speaker 1: Locals fucking do it.
Speaker 2: You say what?
Speaker 1: If we if we make content, just go live on locals. Okay. Uh-oh. We got a guard dog. How's it going?
Good. Is there a, Dennis Gilliam here? Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2: What you got?
Speaker 1: How's it going? Got a package for you, sir. They put your, phone number on it. I have the right one. It's 8187.
Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm boarding up, probably. Nice to meet you, bro. We got some stuff on signal that we should probably go over. We can talk about it in in private.
Anyways, you wanna kinda go over there? Okay. Alright. Cool. Love your dogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guys have your son over there?
Speaker 2: Grandson.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. I mean, we can, if anybody asks what's going on, I'll just change the subject. It's all good. My name is Gordon, by the way.
Sorry to be sure like this, but it's got us some important stuff to probably go over. It's about some, kind of groups on signal and telegram that kind of we've been in here on that. And just trying to kinda figure out what's going on here. Yeah. You know, obviously, I know you're a good guy and you're a family man and stuff.
And I think, you know, we could probably come together and kinda figure out what's going on with all this stuff. What's the dog's name?
Speaker 2: Jasper.
Speaker 1: Oh. Hi, Jasper. Boy or girl? He's a boy. Okay.
Speaker 2: And, Jessie's over here. She's a girl.
Speaker 1: Alright. Cool, man. So, yeah, I I kinda wanna ask about these groups, like, on on like, when when did you first get the signal app?
Speaker 2: I've had signal for, video calls.
Speaker 1: Okay. Got it. Got it. And what about a Telegram?
Speaker 2: I don't belong to Telegram.
Speaker 1: Okay. That's kind of been gone. Telegram's been gone?
Speaker 2: Been gone?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Okay. So just signal?
Speaker 2: Signal and, Zoom and, seem like there's another
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: For some calls. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay. Got it. Do you know about when, you might have got signal? Because
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a clue.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was, to talk to somebody, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. No problem. So there are some groups here, that either somebody has put you in or whatever. Some way, somehow, we just found the group.
This group called Little Angels For Love.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about that.
Speaker 1: Okay. Because, you know, you you've had signal for a while and, you know, I've had those types of apps. I don't know about signal specifically, but, you know, I know on those apps you can get, like, a lot of people just adding you to bullshit and stuff like that. Yeah. And I don't know.
I'm thinking that could have happened because there's a a few groups that, you know, that they put your pro your doodle. Right?
Speaker 2: Okay. No. I don't know. Okay. We don't doodle on anything.
Speaker 1: No. No. No. I mean, that's is that just the name you kinda use on signal? Just doodle?
Speaker 2: It probably is. I just make up names when I'm not gonna use the app. Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No problem. But they've added this, you know, doodle profile with your number on it to to to quite a few groups, on on signal. And, you know, I'm kind of here to figure out
Speaker 2: I didn't know they had groups. I've got groups on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Groups on Facebook? Yeah. Well, no. Signal is not really groups. Yeah.
It's not really groups. It's more like group messages kind of for a lot of people. Does that kind of ring more of a bell? No. Okay.
Well, some of these groups that
Speaker 2: I don't think I've even got Zoom on my I'm sure it's still on the phone, but I I mean, I didn't delete it, but I don't I haven't used it in forever.
Speaker 1: No. I'm talking about signal with this.
Speaker 2: All signal? Yeah. Yeah. Well, same thing.
Speaker 1: Just okay. Well, there
Speaker 2: is Same.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No problem. Well, there's there's group chats that, people have added, your phone number to. And I'm kinda here to figure some stuff out about that. Like, I don't think, know, obviously, I don't think you're a bad person.
I'm trying to figure out, did you, like, create any of these groups yourself?
Speaker 2: No. I've never created a group on Facebook or anywhere else.
Speaker 1: Okay. Got it. Well, I mean, I know everybody is on groups on Facebook. I mean, shit in my own neighborhood, I am. I mean, if you have any bit of social skills, you'll be in a group on Facebook.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But
Speaker 2: Most of them is old history like.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But, you know, I'm talking about kind of these group chats on signal that people are adding you to.
There's one called Dark World Here and Little Angels For Love. I kinda just wanna know kinda when they started adding you to this because, you know
Speaker 2: I don't have a clue. Like I said, I haven't been there for forever.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, you know, Dennis, I didn't come here to kind of ask you about if you are in the groups. I just came here to ask when you were at and stuff like that. Because, you know, I didn't come to your house thinking you are a bad guy. I didn't come to your house thinking that you are the head of any of this stuff.
I think more we can kind of just figure out what's in the groups. Kind of figure out who's doing it and go after the real bad guys with this type of stuff. Because, I mean, you told me you're a grandfather.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's pretty important, I think, to fight this stuff together. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
Speaker 1: So, you know What are
Speaker 2: we fighting?
Speaker 1: Well, we're fighting kind of there's people in these groups. I'm sure as you know because they've added me to a few of them. And they're posting, like, pictures of just younger people.
Speaker 2: Oh, no. I haven't haven't added any pictures or anything. I haven't put any on Facebook in a long time. I haven't been fishing in a while.
Speaker 1: No. Sure. No. I'm talking about the, signal groups though. Yeah.
Like the signal group chat.
Speaker 2: I haven't added anything to anything.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. So you didn't post anything in those groups? Uh-uh. Okay.
That's kind of what I think it is. I think they just kind of been adding you to shit and it's kind of that they're doing it while you're just kind of around. You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: Like, well, as we had, DISH Network
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And, hell, I got added to a bunch of shit in there and come to find out, I'd spend it 3, 4 dollars a month. With additional
Speaker 1: okay. Okay. When's the last time you were on signal? Oh, it's been ages. Ages.
Okay. Well, you know, Dennis, we can just kinda I'm just gonna let you know, man. And, you know, like I said, dude, I mean, do do you still work? Yeah. Okay.
What what do you what do you do for work?
Speaker 2: I work 2nd shift at, ABB in Portland.
Speaker 1: What does that do?
Speaker 2: I work, in, industrial maintenance.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: We make, the blue plastic boxes for plug ins and Mhmm. Light fixtures.
Speaker 1: Oh, so literally you keep the world going?
Speaker 2: Well, pretty much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate that shit, man.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: We definitely need more people in the industry rather than just, you know.
Speaker 2: What you need me to do or
Speaker 1: Well, I I kinda wanna figure out why this happened because, you know, you are too good of a person to kinda be around these people. And, you know, everybody kind of falls into bullshit online. I mean, it's fucking Internet. Okay? And, you know, I am kind of trying to to figure out like, is this something that's like a pattern?
Is this something that's just been starting to happen? I don't know. Because, you know, all I know is that they are adding into these groups or somehow you are finding them. But, I think what you can kind of help me with is where are these groups coming from. Like how are these groups being advertised to where?
Because I don't think you are online just looking up dark world. I don't think that's happening. But I think if we can kind of get like a source of where it's coming from, I think that's something we can come together on and kind of separate you from all those those people. So, you kind of know where those groups would be advertised for people to just find or click on?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't have a clue. Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, how how did how did you get into these groups? I
Speaker 2: don't have a clue there either. Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, how how do you think people have been adding you to this stuff? Because, again, I don't think it's you I don't think it's you doing this. Well, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know I've had my Facebook back before, but, like I said, I haven't done this. I haven't been on Zoom in forever. Well, this is signal. Well, signal, I haven't been on that.
To me, it's the same thing because that's what it was used for with video call.
Speaker 1: To video call? Okay. Who introduced signal to you?
Speaker 2: I was trying to think who contacted me. Mhmm. Shit. I can't remember now, but it one of my friends, I'm sure, from years ago. But, like I said, I haven't used it in ages ages.
Speaker 1: Okay. You just, what, talk to your friends online and shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah. At that time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. I
Speaker 2: think it might have been one one of my buddies died, and we might have been trying to get together to some of
Speaker 1: the families. Oh, really? Who who is it that
Speaker 2: like Peewee Belcher. Chester Beller.
Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
Speaker 2: In Kentucky. He died about a year ago now.
Speaker 1: Oh, really? Is he, like, your best friend or something? Or
Speaker 2: yeah. He used to be well, he used to be pretty tight.
Speaker 1: Damn. How did he die, if I may ask?
Speaker 2: They failed at the natural causes. He was 63, I think, 64.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And
Speaker 2: they got to miss him a couple of days and found him in his room.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Did you go to his funeral?
Speaker 2: No. I did not.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a funeral there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You didn't have, like, no family or anything? Or Just
Speaker 2: had him cremated and Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man. I'm sorry to hear that. You okay for that?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. That's good. Do you, like, work still work full time and all that?
Speaker 2: Yes. Nice,
Speaker 1: man. Take
Speaker 2: a shift. That's where I'm headed now.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, you know, Dennis, like, these kind of groups here, I really am very sure that you're not the head of any of this stuff and that you didn't create this. But, you know, I kind of want to figure out, like, again, how this is happening because I didn't come here on a question. I came here that there's some things that we do know. There's, like, obviously, that they put you in a group or some way said how you joined them.
Maybe you didn't know what they were. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, if people, like, just linked you and said join my group before and when you click on it, it's just been some other shit you didn't expect. I'm trying to think of a reason that this would be happening, man.
Speaker 2: No. I haven't like I said, I haven't been to signal in forever, so I haven't clicked on join anything.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I mean, on on signal groups, they can add you to it. Like, they can, you know, put your name in there, but you actually have to physically press join on these. And you may not see what's there before you press join, but, you know, if they just added you randomly and you didn't join, you wouldn't be listed on here. So you press you press join, but I'm just trying to know if this is what you expected it to be or whatever because, you know, obviously, you're a grandfather.
I'm sure you don't condone the stuff they're posting in here. I did not.
Speaker 2: So Like I said, I don't I didn't know I was in any group's own signal or
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, Dennis, I'm gonna have to just lightly counter you on that because, you know, we can kinda see that there's some stuff clicked on in those groups. Okay? Like it wasn't just, like you to your credit, you haven't posted anything we have we've seen. And I don't think you'd ever take it that far.
But, you know, there has been stuff clicked on and there's truly a difference between, you know, watching a car wreck versus crashing cars. Right? And, if some of this stuff was just sometime a morbid curiosity or whatever, I don't know. But I'm trying to kind of give you the benefit of the doubt here with this stuff because, you know, it's it's it's more than one group and it looks like it's a lot of foreigners in there just kind of fussing around. I mean, is it I mean, Dennis, like, you told me that you got signal to start with video calling people which which yeah.
That's totally fine. I mean but like I said, dude, I've been in that position where I've gotten that for one thing that turns into a kind of a shit show, with other stuff. And is that could that have been something that happened with you here? Because, you know, we're not gonna deny it happened because it it just did. And we saw stuff that was clicked on.
To your credit, you weren't on there 247, just clicking, clicking, clicking. That's not you. But morbid curiosity, I have no idea. Like, I'm trying to figure out what it is. Like, was this a curiosity that you wanted to initiate yourself or did someone bring into this?
I'm trying that's what I'm trying to figure out here, dude.
Speaker 2: I haven't I didn't know I was clicking on anything.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, Dennis, man, I'm just gonna ask you, dude, like, just man to man. Okay? You work too hard. Okay?
You have a lot. Like, don't don't let some Internet bullshit just kind of bite come bite you in the ass when it doesn't have to because I'm more concerned about who's actually producing this type of stuff in these groups. I'm not really concerned about you. The only reason I'm here at your house is because I'm 99.9% sure that you have nothing to do with any of these photos or videos. That it's just people in the groups that actually do doing this stuff.
And, I think you can kind of help me with stuff. That's what I'm here for, man. And I was thinking, especially since you I don't know you had grandkids, but especially since you have kids of your own, I thought this was something that we can kind of, come together on, man. Okay? You're not the creator of the signal app.
You're you're not the one who made any of these groups. I don't think. No. Okay. Unless you just learn Spanish in the sticks of Tennessee, which I freaking doubt that happened.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: But it it's more of something that I just care about what they're kind of who's doing it? Who's actually doing the participation in there? And, I mean, I don't think you're doing any of that. But, you know, obviously people get the wrong idea just seeing you kind of listed in there and that's kind of what separate. I wanna I wanna separate you and actually find the real bad guys, the producers of this stuff.
And, you know, that's not something that I don't want help on, man. Like, I didn't come here with all the answers. I came here with just basic knowledge that some stuff was clicked on in the group and that they either added you or you were listed in a bunch of them. Okay?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So, you know, one thing too, I mean, about Telegram, you know, I didn't hear the truth about Telegram. You were last on there February 6th. Alright? That's
Speaker 2: On Telegram? Yep. Okay. Not that I know of.
Speaker 1: 6068187. Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. So, yeah, you were less than
Speaker 2: Is that something that, you could be transferred to? Like, you go here and you go to a link and it goes there?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Could that have been what happened?
Speaker 2: It could have been. I don't know. If I was there, that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Because I didn't come here kinda thinking, like, you know, you just go on signal and that's what you're looking for. That's not kind of, I mean, if that is I mean, is that the case? What?
Like, he just came on signal just kinda looking for this stuff? No. Okay.
Speaker 2: I haven't looked for anything.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Because there are there are 2 ways that this stuff kinda happens. 1 of them is one of them is, like, you just get signal. You know damn well what you wanna look for and it can be kind of rough.
Right? Then the other way is you mentioned something about you click a link and then it transfers you to something.
Speaker 2: No. I mean, I've done that on, on other sites. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. So that's that's kind of what I think more because a lot of the foreigners in these groups like So Telegram,
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1: Okay. So this person right here, in this in this little angels for love group, this Juan Per, we believe he's one of the admins of this group. So that's somebody, for example, who kind of makes the group himself for that explicit reason and, Do they
Speaker 2: profit from this group?
Speaker 1: Depends if they're selling stuff. That's what I
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They they might. I mean, it'd be a pretty, pretty ballsy thing to do that for for charity.
Speaker 2: I've never paid to use signal. So
Speaker 1: Okay. So you haven't even bought any of this stuff? No. Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay. I haven't paid anything to signal. I thought it was all free.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
No. We don't see any, I mean, as far as I know, we don't see any records of you trying to buy any of this stuff either. So, I mean, if there's a totem pole to this shit, you're at the very, very bottom if you've been on it at all. I don't even think you are. But, so I was saying people like Juan are the ones that get signal for this explicit reason.
I mean, you said you got into video call somebody, but they get signal for this explicit reason. Make these groups and get people added to it that see that those type of people are people I'm actually going after. You, I mean, you mentioned that a link can transfer you to this shit. That's kind of what I was thinking it could have been. Okay?
That's more of like a benefit of the doubt thing where it's like, you know, you're browsing on a site. I mean, if you're on if you're on Instagram, you're not on Signal. You're not looking for Signal. So I guess that's a I guess that's a better I guess that's a better, question. Is there shit that's been posted on other sites like links that have led you to signal in some of these groups?
Because I think that's probably the best explanation here. But, that's probably the one that makes the most sense.
Speaker 2: That's what yeah. I mean, I haven't been on signal that I know. Mhmm. But, like I said, unless I was transferred there somewhere.
Speaker 1: Okay. Where do you think you could have been transferred from? Because I think those those platforms just allowing those links to be posted are kinda crazy too.
Speaker 2: It would have to be Facebook
Speaker 1: or Really? Or something.
Speaker 2: I would say TikTok, but I haven't been on TikTok in couple of years, I know.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, signal is more recent than a couple of years, so it have to be a Facebook. Okay. So you think you think it's a it could be a high possibility that somebody was just in some Facebook comments posted a link to some random link and it led to like a signal group?
Speaker 2: Could have been.
Speaker 1: Okay. Do you happen to know when that could have been or what Facebook page it could have been on? Because that's, you know, obviously the source of that is pretty important. Obviously, you can create the Facebook page yourself, but it's more of being able to find that would be important.
Speaker 2: Lord, I'm in 5,000 groups on Facebook. I don't
Speaker 1: Goddamn, man.
Speaker 2: Collins fishing and lakes and state parks and
Speaker 1: Really? Okay. You're a nature guy.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: How many acres do you have?
Speaker 2: Acre and a quarter. God.
Speaker 1: When did you get this house?
Speaker 2: 2015.
Speaker 1: Right before it all.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 1: How's it going?
Speaker 3: It's going.
Speaker 1: Good. Right before it all just skyrocketed. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then right after we bought it, we had a kitchen fire.
Speaker 1: Nice. We had
Speaker 2: to move out, get all that fixed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that's freaking how much did you get it for, if I may ask?
Speaker 2: 2.13.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's dude, it's probably worth 3 times the price now. I wouldn't doubt it. God, man. Freaking luck down.
Speaker 2: The house right the other side of that little gray pump house.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's sold for 7 780 something. It's
Speaker 4: not an issue.
Speaker 1: Dude. You ever think of selling this place? No. Well, yeah. It's pretty peaceful here.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right right next to Natural so you can do all the city shit, but it's like, don't even feel it, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We're like 10 minutes from Hendersonville or White House or Gallatin or wherever you want it to go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's fucking nice. Is that your wife right there?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice, man. Do you you know, I'm I'm not married yet. I have a girlfriend of me and just guy to guy. Do you like watch porn?
Speaker 2: I have in the past, but not in a long time.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: My stuff ain't worked in a long time.
Speaker 1: Even do you just kind of, do you have an Instagram?
Speaker 2: No. Okay.
Speaker 1: So just Facebook. Do you just kind of, I mean, I do this on Instagram because I'm I'm kinda younger, but, you know, you're older, so Facebook maybe more sense. Do you, like, kind of, do you just kinda like browse on Facebook and maybe just like cute woman pop up and just kind of it's like one of them dancers.
Speaker 2: I am. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Because I don't think they're posting signal groups on fishing pages and, you know, hickory I
Speaker 2: wouldn't think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's just your main page. Okay. It comes up then.
Speaker 1: So where do where do you think these links could have been posted to these signal groups? Because you said Facebook, but you you mentioned there's been some, there's been some just kind of, you know, tits and ass shaking, whatever.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be late.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm working on it.
Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Yeah. It's kinda it's kinda an important convo, but he's he'll get through it. Okay. Yeah.
Alright.
Speaker 2: Good afternoon. I really wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Because, I mean, that's really all that I go to is Facebook and, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: Okay. Got it. Some games.
Speaker 2: I mean, I go to Games on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, not on Facebook, but, Google Play Store.
Speaker 1: Okay. But you think the highest probability of this happening is someone posted this link these links on some Facebook page and it just leads you to this? Probably. Okay. Okay.
That makes, that actually makes a lot of sense because, we can kind of see, kind of the difference in, I guess you could say levels of this. I mean, if your name is Doodle on there, I don't really think anything of Doodle, but if your name is, Danger Girls Videos, that's probably something to that might raise an eyebrow, I'd say, if you if you would agree on that, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But, you know, Danger Girl's videos and on Facebook just looking at like chicks in bikinis just kinda walking. He's he's he's on signal for one reason. Okay. So now that I know that this was not something that you actually went looking for, it was more something that you probably stumbled across. I think it's best that we, you know, kind of figure this out because I I really think you're doing a great job of separating yourself from these real assholes doing this type of shit.
Do you know about when it when those transfers started started from like say Facebook to Signal? Like, how long after you actually got Signal? If you if you're with your best guess?
Speaker 2: Probably pretty quick. Really? Yeah. I mean, when you when you get on the site, then it usually sends you stuff. But I don't think I've ever got any text or emails from you.
Speaker 1: Let me see. Excuse me one moment. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Oh. Like oh, like backward. Yeah. Of course. Who do you, deliver for, ma'am?
Just a local company. Oh. Sorry. Got it. Got it.
Cool.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. Have a good day.
Speaker 2: T mode. I've got to swear I can't live without T mode.
Speaker 1: You like that you like that Chinese shit? You can't you can't escape it.
Speaker 2: Well, most of them I got is about the same thing that you buy, you know, Fast Pro or the Bellas or
Speaker 1: So is Timo actually, like, useful and shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. Is it, like, that much cheaper? I haven't been on that. Yes. So a
Speaker 2: lot of things are. Some things aren't, but most of it is.
Speaker 1: So what's that, for example, that you got?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have to open it up and see. Alright.
Speaker 1: A little unboxing here.
Speaker 2: Oh, that is
Speaker 1: a yoga pad
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna slice up and make planer boards out of. There's 2 of them in
Speaker 1: there. Alright. How much long do y'all figure y'all gonna be talking? It could be a little bit. Alright.
Yeah. I'm on moving so I can get out and go to work. Yeah. Is that cool? Yeah.
Yeah. That's just a Where are you
Speaker 0: going in? That's just gonna
Speaker 2: take our car. Oh, okay. A Zippy Diver, some fishing pole rings, fishing line.
Speaker 1: Alright. All for $5?
Speaker 2: Probably. I think these were 2.30 something. The line was a dollar and something. Yeah. Most of it's 2 or 3 dollars.
Speaker 1: Golly, man. Bugger.
Speaker 2: What about the state?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm a water guy. Actually, yeah. Fuck it. Appreciate it.
God. This is getting good? It's good?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like it. Alright. It's still easy.
Speaker 1: Damn. It's not bad.
Speaker 2: No. I like it. So, what what do you need me to help you with? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll just wait. Is it Elswit? Is that is that your grandson?
Speaker 2: This is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How old is he?
Speaker 2: He's, 19. Oh, okay. Okay.
Speaker 1: God. He looks like he's, 25. 20. You ever played sports or anything?
Speaker 2: No. He played baseball a little bit. Little league.
Speaker 1: Got it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, he's, like, sick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No kidding, dude. Did he work where you knew?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice. So where you work, do you actually get, like, do you do you get, like, pay scale they scale you up and shit? Like, you are you, like, guessing the seniority and all that?
Speaker 2: They don't really go by seniority, but, yeah, they
Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. Alright. You get, like, benefits and all that? Yeah.
Speaker 4: How fuck
Speaker 2: are you, dude?
Speaker 1: Alright. Yeah. So I'm gonna plug it here. So you've been working how long have you been working there for?
Speaker 2: 10 years.
Speaker 1: Nice, man. What did you do before if I may ask?
Speaker 2: I worked at a die cast plant in Texas.
Speaker 1: Okay. What brought you down to Tennessee?
Speaker 2: My wife mostly.
Speaker 4: You you
Speaker 2: She lived down here, so I moved down here with her.
Speaker 1: Oh, you got married, like, recently again?
Speaker 2: 20 2018 we got married.
Speaker 1: Nice, man. So this is so this is your second wife or 3rd? 3rd. 3rd? Alright.
Nice. You think she's the one forever?
Speaker 2: I hope so.
Speaker 1: No, man. Definitely. Here here to be just like Trump. You gotta can have 4 wives? I mean
Speaker 2: So far, I hope not.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I like him. I like him, but, you know, he's he's he's ran through women a lot. Yeah.
Yeah. Whatever. I don't know. I just want my fucking tax lower than the border closed, honestly. But alright.
Speaking of border closed, these freaking Spanish people are kind of an issue, man. Okay. So I'm thinking what happened is and again, that that's something I didn't know before coming here. That's something that actually gave me a peace of mind about all this. So you're browsing Facebook just being an older guy.
Fucking, who isn't? Some link pops up, you click on the link, it just leads you to a world of bullshit pretty much. Is that kind of?
Speaker 2: It happens a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Okay. So, so so, I mean, obviously, what I'm not asking is gonna be a tough question, but obviously, it's one that it's like the $1,000,000 question here kinda needs to be answered here, I I'd say, because, you know, one, this is a way to flip it around on these people actually doing it because, you know, if I could just talk to you then get in info on 30 guys who are actually into this stuff. I mean, what a win that is. Right?
Okay. So, when do these Facebook links just getting posted on there start turning into this type of shit?
Speaker 2: I don't I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, it's something that was recent? Is it something that was, like, been going on for a couple of years? Or
Speaker 2: no. I haven't been on the like I said, I only got on signal like a year ago. I think it's when I got on it. I was talking to some of my friends' family.
Speaker 1: Okay. But, you know, you mentioned to me that you've been transferred from groups from face or you've been transferred as signal from, like, Facebook links that people just randomly posted.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say if that's if that's what happened, then that'd be the way that I'd get there.
Speaker 1: Okay. So what kind of links was it kinda leading you to? Like, were there groups other than this subject matter that they were leading you to? Like, were they leading to, like, NASCAR groups on signal? I don't think those really exist.
Speaker 2: I don't know what groups are on signal. I didn't know there were groups on. Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just talking about these group mess these links to these group messages. I'm not talking about, like, a group on signal about, you know, Hickory, Tennessee or anything like that. Yeah. But you know, if you see if you've seen kind of provocative photos on Facebook of adults, which is whatever it's fucking fine. People post links on those all the time to shit that you're not even looking for.
And, you know, we know those were clicked on. We the only thing we could see is those groups were joined and that there was some stuff seen in those groups. We don't know where the link was clicked from. It doesn't tell us that. But, if you're saying Facebook, that's, that's a pretty believable thing.
That's something that would make a lot of sense. I don't think you were on the, you know, I don't think you were on the dark web just Yeah. Scoring for this. And then you see a link for signal. It doesn't really you don't really strike me as that type of guy to do that.
But, Dennis, I mean, it wasn't just one group. It was it it was a few. And, you know, I know we're just recently married and stuff like that and
Speaker 4: I get it man.
Speaker 1: Guys on the internet like dude, I have a girlfriend. You know
Speaker 4: how much I watch porn? Like fucking way
Speaker 1: way more than I like to admit to. That's fucking a lot. Fuck it 5 times a week at least. Alright? But I'm not even saying you're trying to watch porn.
I'm just saying that, yeah, when we see cleavage on Facebook or Instagram, it can definitely lead us to some other shit too. Okay? I'm not saying that you're the head of any of this shit. I'm just saying at some point, and I'm thinking it's from the Facebook links, you ended up in these groups. Okay?
If these groups didn't exist in the first place, you wouldn't be on them. If you if these people were decent human beings, they wouldn't be, you know, you wouldn't be on this shit. Right. It's obviously people leading sucking into a black hole. You got sucked into some Internet bullshit and now it's time to kinda unwind from that.
Okay? Don't be, you know, I've talked to a few people about this type of stuff and it wasn't like, you know, Juan or anything like that. It wasn't people I think that are actually participating in this stuff. It was the people that I kind of feel are in your situation where, you know, they were browsing on Facebook, trolling around, they get added, and, you know, it just becomes a shit show. Gets a little bit carried away from there.
And, you know, a few of them, well, actually, most of them have told me like, yeah, this is kinda what happened. And, you know, I actually saw that, hey, they're not actually participants in this type of stuff. And with those people, it's kind of easy to kinda like brush them to the side and go after those other bad people. But there's also been a few where it's like, you know, oh, I have no idea. I don't know.
I don't know. And then it turns out they're just as, you know, they're just as severe as the, you know, Juan and the rest of them. Don't be those guys because that that was the least I was expecting from you, man. I was expecting you to be more of a guy who's just like, yeah, this has kind of been these assholes have been kinda adding me to some bullshit, trying to get me into some bullshit. You know, obviously, these pictures, I don't think are yours.
I don't know. But I'm thinking that's what it is. Because look, if it was one group, Dennis, then I'd be like, okay, this could be just a fluke. But it's it's it's more than 1. It's like 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
Like, it's a lot, man. I didn't even print out every group you're in. I just printed out a few. And that's not an accident. That's obviously something you notice because I know you notice because we can track signal activity.
We can see what's clicked on. Does that mean it's the end all be all? No. Because if I if I thought that I wouldn't be here talking to you. I I think there has to be an actual explanation behind it.
Maybe just curiosity or just boredom. Because that's a lot different than actually just, you know, having a basement full of people, basement full of kids chained up and stuff. I don't fucking, obviously, I know you don't have that. But some of these people probably do, and that's kinda what I'm trying to find out, man. That's kinda what I'm going after.
So, Dennis, I'm asking you to help me on this, man, because you're too good of a guy to Well, I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what I need to do to help help you?
Speaker 1: Okay. Well Like I
Speaker 2: said, if if I followed the link, it had to be from Facebook. Okay.
Speaker 1: So it had to be from Facebook. Okay. So, I I'm just gonna say if you're sincere about helping me, just be transparent with me. I'm transparent with you, Dennis. Okay?
How how we'll just call it a tornado, because that's what these groups are. They're big tornadoes of just, you know, start off small then it just swirls and then it's a whirlwind of bullshit. When did these types of tornadoes on signal start? Like in your experience. So when did you first start?
Like, I'm not saying, you know, you were ever curious about this stuff or ever like this stuff. But at some point, you started getting added to it. That's objective fact. And I'm not gonna argue with you on that. But I'm only asking your experience because if it's reaching, you know, the average hard working guy in Tennessee, it's probably fucking expanded a lot, you know.
So in your experience, when did people start posting links to these group these types of groups on Facebook? Like, when did when's the ballpark of when that started? I'm not saying you need to remember January 17th this year or anything like that. I'm just saying like a ballpark number. I'm not you're not gonna tell me the exact right answer, which is fine.
But just a general time frame is fine.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe 6 months ago, something like that.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It ain't you know, I don't that's not something I do every day.
Speaker 1: Right. Right. So this isn't something that's been a lifelong Oh, no. Okay. Okay.
It's just been kinda a new phenomenon here. That's fair. Okay. Well, that's good. I mean, if you've only been in this stuff for 6 months, then we can easily just get you out of it.
That's a, that's an easy thing to do. Okay. So, so basically, in short, signals turned into kind of other extracurricular bullshit the past 6 months. Is that kind of a fair thing to say?
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't build a signal. So
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I I guess my question is, when did you start seeing these Facebook links? Or these links on Facebook posts that led to groups like this?
Speaker 2: Like I said, the only time I've done that is like in the last 6 months.
Speaker 1: Okay. So them posting, so them posting links to kinda inappropriate stuff is a new thing for them that you've seen?
Speaker 2: Well, no. I'm sure it's been there before. Just I never have clicked on it or Okay.
Speaker 1: But so only the past 6 months because
Speaker 2: of this, I, you know, I figured, hey, you look at that stuff and you're gonna get
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 2: Something's gonna happen. Sure.
Speaker 1: But, you know, out of all the things that could happen, kind of identifying the real bad guys is the best possible thing. You're a grandfather and shit, man. Okay. So you've been avoiding it for a while, but then the past 6 months, you've just kinda been this just kind of just kinda changed a little bit?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess.
Speaker 1: Alright. That's fair. Okay. So do you know about oh, man. Do you know, like, what languages these groups are typically in?
Because, I mean, I see one here in Spanish, but, obviously, I didn't look through fucking however many groups we're in. Do you see, like, any recurring languages in these groups?
Speaker 2: No. No? I mean, I don't know anything but English. So
Speaker 1: Okay. No. No. That's fine. I'm not saying you speak to them.
But but do you see, like is it do you see a lot of English or is it like other languages you see in these groups?
Speaker 2: Oh, there's other languages in all of them.
Speaker 1: Okay. Do you god. That's a good question here. Are they using I mean, I see I know Spanish use a, b, c, d, e, f, g, blah blah blah. But in these other groups, are they using, like, the English letters too?
Or is it, like, complete other languages like symbols and all that stuff?
Speaker 2: I've seen some samples. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Or what? Some kind of foreign language, but I don't know what it is. It's not let it regular letters.
Speaker 1: Okay. So it's some shit we could not possibly even read? Okay. I see. What would you say the most prevalent language is?
Like, is it some shit you can't even read or is it like Spanish or English or?
Speaker 2: Probably most of the groups I'd say was Spanish.
Speaker 1: Okay. I appreciate you telling me that because we obviously wanna narrow it down. I'm not saying you're gonna I'm not saying you're gonna be the reason, you know, we we find little chained up in Cancun. But you I mean, right there with what you just told me. You just eliminated fucking Ukraine, Russia.
You know what I mean? Like, now now you just took off like a 1000000000 people this could be. Noticed. I I mean, I appreciate you for that. Truly.
I mean, your this is saving kids right here. Is there anybody in these groups that you noticed that would post more than others? Like, any usernames that stick out to you, especially?
Speaker 2: Never paid any attention to any names or
Speaker 1: Okay. That's fair. But you think, Spanish is the most spoken one or the most common language that pops up in these groups? That's fair. Okay.
Are the thesis of these groups, like, are they mostly posting boys, girls? Are they mostly posting like boys, girls, or both? Or
Speaker 2: what I looked at was mostly women. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mostly women? Okay. I see. Well, I know you're a connoisseur of woman, as am I. That's that's that's our thing.
Right? But, you know, I'm not I'm not here because we're talking about woman and man. I'm not we're not talking about Victoria's Secret models or, you know, Calvin Klein or whatever those fucking faggots. Well, you know, whatever. You know, I'm not here to talk about that.
Okay? So you're telling me you look at woman, that's that's gives me a peace of mind. That's great. Good. But I'm talking about what these people are posting.
I'm not talking about what you looked at. I'm talking about what they've posted. So have you seen them post mainly, like, boys or girls, like, in these groups? Or has it been kind of kind of both? I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's been both.
Speaker 1: Really? Okay. Have you seen have you seen, like, any of them specifically talk about what they've done to any of these people? And to, like no. They haven't okay.
As far as you know, they haven't, like, talked about this is me with him. Okay. That's fine. A lot of them wouldn't just blatantly raise their hand and say that. That's fine.
So if it makes sense. Okay. What are kind of, what are kind of the age ranges that these assholes have posted in kind of in these groups?
Speaker 2: Teens and twenties, I guess.
Speaker 1: Okay. What what's teens?
Speaker 2: You know, 18 and up.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, Dennis, I know it's hard to talk about, but a group with someone named Solo CP in there, Danger Girls Videos, Little Things, and Little Angels of for love. They're not posting stuff that's 18 and plus. I'm operating under the not it's not even an assumption. It's just the straight up truth that they're posting a lot of stuff that's probably makes me and you uncomfortable in there.
Do they post woman in there? Yeah. Sure they do. I'm not saying that. 500 people are just posting, you know.
It's like a pizza buffet, you know, you can choose what you like. But, I'm not asking about them posting 18 and plus. That'd be a waste of both of our time to just lie about that. I'm just asking, like, what's what are kind of age range that these other have posted? I'm not saying that you even looked at or anything or even were curious about.
I'm just saying, you know, if if that house burns down and then we think there's an arsonist, I'm gonna ask you who who who who burned that house down. I'm not gonna accuse you burning the house down. I'm gonna ask like, hey, what's going on in that house? So that's kind of what I'm asking with what these people are posting. You you can't control what somebody's posting.
You're not the admin. You don't have any powers to stop what they're posting. So I'm not blaming you for what they're posting. But, you know, being that we were in the group, I'm kinda just asking what they were posting. So, like, what age ranges have these assholes of just thrown out there?
Speaker 4: I can
Speaker 2: tell you the age ranges. If I saw something young, I didn't look. I got off quick.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Okay. So have there been times where somebody's posed at something young and it kinda made you uncomfortable and you Oh, very uncomfortable. Okay.
Okay. How how often in these groups have these assholes just post post the youngsters, like, a common thing? Or
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so. But
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: But there's been a few bad apples who have just kind of like I'm
Speaker 2: sure there are. There are everywhere. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But, you know, I'm talking about like in the little angels. Like, have there been groups that you've been in where someone's post something young and it made you uncomfortable and you clicked off of it?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, I hate to ask you to relive because I know it's not comfortable for you as a granddad, but, you know, again, this could easily be your grandkids and it could easily be my kids in the future. Right? So, when they post the young shit, was it like pictures, videos, or both? Or
Speaker 2: I've seen both. Lots.
Speaker 1: Goddamn. But,
Speaker 2: that's not something that I
Speaker 1: Indulge in. Right. Yeah. That's fair. That's total.
That's kinda what I figured. So when they when they post, like, pics and video, are these, like, a boys or girls or kind of both? Or
Speaker 2: mainly girls were sort of it's the only thing I noticed.
Speaker 1: Okay. What kind of goes on in the videos? I mean, I think I don't know. Okay. Okay.
That's what about, like, the pictures? Like, what's kinda showing?
Speaker 2: They're usually scantily clad or showing something.
Speaker 1: Just naked?
Speaker 2: I'm sure some of them
Speaker 1: them are. Okay. So they just are these nudes like back, full frontal, or both or? Both. Both?
Okay. So this is kind of important because this actually helps lead us to the people doing this stuff. So when there's a nude of, you know, some under 80 girl in the group, does it look like does it look like she's kinda taken a selfie herself like this, Or does it kinda look like it's somebody's behind the camera taking a photo?
Speaker 2: I can tell you that. I'm not that experienced with whatever is going on.
Speaker 1: Well, sure. But you just kinda take one that kinda can ring a bell. Was the girl holding anything in her hand? Like, I mean, like, did it look like she was, like, kinda doing that? Like like, could you could you see basically everything from the chest down to the vagina down to her legs?
Speaker 2: Well, most of them were close, so could be selfies.
Speaker 1: Okay. So what could you see on the close-up ones?
Speaker 2: Just whatever they're taking a picture of.
Speaker 1: Okay. I hate to ask you this, but it's kind of important. Because somebody could even be directing them to take that picture. What were they taking pictures of?
Speaker 2: Mainly just like from the waist up.
Speaker 1: Okay. So you could see their little boobies and stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. What was the common race of these girls? Well, I don't know. Okay. Were they brown, white?
Or
Speaker 2: Both. Both? Okay.
Speaker 1: What was kind of the and again, you're not an expert on age. I I understand. You know, they don't have their age on their forehead. But, like, I'm just gonna let you know or I'm gonna remind you, remembering something isn't culpability. If I see somebody, you know, murder if I, if I saw somebody, God forbid, shoot your dog, I'm going to try to remember everything about that guy.
Okay? So, that doesn't mean that I shot the dog. It just means that I'm trying to help out here. So, what would kind of be the age ranges you've seen of these ass these fucking true assholes just posting these note nude photos of girls? Like, what would be the kind of the oldest to the youngest?
Speaker 2: Oh, I couldn't have. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: What's your best guess?
Speaker 2: Oh, the teens, I guess.
Speaker 1: Well, like, 13, 14? Yeah. Okay. God, man. So these people,
Speaker 2: I've really got to get to work.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Is there more I can can you leave me your number or
Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I mean, of course, it's all voluntary to be here. I mean, I need some fucking fried pickles myself. But, you know, Dennis, there's obviously there's there's obviously, like, there's more to it than that, man. And, you know, there's a I I kinda wanna ask about some links too, man.
And you said you worked at ABB. Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I kinda did a little research on you. I did I did give them a heads up that you might be a little bit today and that you'll work over I mean, I hope you'd work overtime, make it up. I I gave them a heads up. So, I mean, they said it's all good.
I just told him, like, I just told him, like, my name is Gordon. I'm a relative of his. There's kind of an emergency in the family that, you know, Granson will be able to show up to work and that you'll kinda make it up a day that you're off. I mean, I I already told him that. So, I mean, I wouldn't worry about that if I were you.
And I didn't tell him you'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I am worried.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I told him, like, he'll be back tomorrow. I can't
Speaker 2: afford to miss work. So
Speaker 1: I know. I know. But I already talked, and they said they'll give you an extra day and shit. Well, I
Speaker 2: can't help that. I got still got to go to work.
Speaker 1: No. I understand. Mhmm. You can do what you want, but, you know, again, Dennis, like, obviously, this is a lot more important because, you know, if some of this stuff doesn't get addressed, there there is a possibility there is no work and there's a possibility that, you know, this all goes to shit because I really really really I mean, I'm taking the time with you to actually, you know, for basically us to prove that, hey, this is not something that you were a part of. This is not something that you liked, but, you know, if I didn't come here, people could have gotten the wrong idea about that.
So I came here to actually dispel that. And you're actually doing a good job of separating yourself from these people. I didn't tell your work about what was going on. I didn't tell them anything like that nor do I have that intention of. But, you know, I did as many solids as I can for you.
And, yeah, I understand it's, you know, work isn't work is for sure important but, you know, you'll make it up. And, yeah, dude. I I I can't I can't tell you much more than the fact that I I called in advance. I already considered that possibility. I don't know exactly what shift you worked, but I just told him like, hey, there's some shit in the family.
So, I mean, look, I know you got a wife you should prepare to, I know you got a wife to provide for. I know you got kids to provide for and shit. So trust me, dude. I'm not I'm not letting Internet bullshit be the end all be all, dude. That's not how I operate.
Okay? But I I I do want to ask, you know, because Pardon me. You're good, man. I do wanna ask and I and I know this shit is so hard to talk about, Dennis. And, you know, when it's hard for you to explain this shit.
It actually gives me a peace of mind because it shows me that you don't like this shit and that you're not a sociopath and all that crap. But, you know, we we did see some videos clicked on. Okay? And there's just we know with these Spanish groups, that's the race we hear the most. Okay?
Especially for hardworking men like you. There's some shit clicked on, and we think there's some stuff posted, that was kinda younger than that. By me? No. No.
No. Hell no. But posted by these idiots in there. Okay. And, you know, the the typical, you know, in fact you didn't tell me that is like I mean, it shows me that it's it's it's actually a touchy subject for you because probably because you have grandkids.
But, you know, I know these Hispanic guys have no limits with what they post, so I'm just gonna ask you to be straight up. Have they posted stuff called mega links in these groups?
Speaker 2: Couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, have they posted just links where more of these videos or big pictures pop up on?
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have it. Okay.
Speaker 1: Can you kind of, describe the format of what was on those links on some of them? We make format. Like, basically, a link is clicked on, what kind of pops up in these groups. Like, not not a link to the group, but in the in this signal group, they post a link, and then it's clicked on. What what does that link kinda look like?
Speaker 2: It just goes to whatever the the picture or whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay. How many pictures are all these links usually? Like, some of them have multiple? Or
Speaker 2: No. Most of them just one. Most of them just okay.
Speaker 1: So it's a link to a picture? Yeah. Okay. I'm a I'm a just ask it one more time, Dennis. I'm thinking you probably got a little bit carried away with some of this stuff, which you're a guy on the Internet with a penis, which fucking if you haven't been carried away on the Internet, you're gay.
So I think you probably looked at some photos of teens, which is fucking whatever. They're not like kids' kids. But what's been posted in there is different than what you looked at. I don't think those are synonymous with each other. Okay?
But we've all been in Chinese buffets. Right? We've all ignored the pizza on it. We've all we've all ignored the pizza in the Chinese, but we all don't like that shit. We all, you know, go for the chicken or whatever.
You go for the pizza, you're probably a menace to society. So I'm I'm gonna ask, like, we know in in the little angels for love group, they were posting videos of infants and toddlers in there. Okay? We know that. That's something we know for sure because we've kinda dug into that group.
What I'm gonna ask Dennis?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna ask okay. How's it going, ma'am?
Speaker 3: It's going okay.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 1: How's it going? We're just having a conversation here. He's just, people have just been doing some crazy stuff online, with him. He's good himself, but it's just kind of important to get through.
Speaker 3: But if you wanna go to work, I mean, are you
Speaker 2: I told him I got to work.
Speaker 3: Are you detaining him?
Speaker 1: Nope. I never said I was. But, you know, ma'am, I did also call his job ahead of time and say it could be a lengthy conversation, and they've already said they can he can make up a day and stuff like that. So I've already taken care of all that. I know I, of course, know he's providing for you.
Speaker 3: I I work at home. So I but
Speaker 1: thank you. Well, yeah. Well, I I know y'all rely on him. Stuff. Rely on him.
Sure. Sure.
Speaker 3: But
Speaker 1: But, but it's it's it's pretty important stuff, ma'am. And it it's Are
Speaker 3: you with the police? Nope.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It's pretty important stuff that,
Speaker 3: It might be some stuff that could be used against him. I'm not so sure. Well, I It's a great conversation.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm here to make sure that stuff doesn't get used against him because people have been adding adding him to some stuff that has not been the most flattering. But he's actually doing a good job of, like, kinda pointing out the real bad guys who are doing this shit. That's what I care about. I don't care about Dennis who works hard and gets on his phone once in a while. Who are
Speaker 3: you with
Speaker 1: if you're not It's called Kid Protectors USA. My name is Gordon.
Speaker 3: Nancy Killen?
Speaker 1: Yep. So, yeah, that's kind of,
Speaker 3: But y'all probably work with the police department, I'm sure, trying to
Speaker 1: Here? No. Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nope.
Speaker 3: I was just wondering. I assume you're trying to help these girls or keep this stuff off the Internet.
Speaker 1: Mhmm. Absolutely. Absolutely. I care more about the people actually out there out there doing this stuff more than the, you know, I mean, everybody kind of looks at stuff online. That's not what I really care about.
So that's why I'm here talking to him because obviously, you know, there's many different ways this could go besides the conversation at the house about it. And, you know, I didn't know you overheard any of it. I guess you did. And I did. Sure.
Speaker 3: It's okay. I mean, I just I just know from experience, you know, if you say the wrong thing, it it can really get twisted around.
Speaker 1: Right. And, you know, so what would become as the wrong thing is just him being in these groups in the first place. And what is getting untwisted is him actually saying like, so so I didn't know before coming here that he didn't make any of these groups himself. I didn't think he did, but I also didn't know. So it turns out he was just on Facebook and people were just posting stupid links and he just clicked on links and that's what kind of got into this little ruckus here.
Okay? So that actually gives me a peace of mind and it gives, you know, it it gives it gives everybody peace of mind. He, you know, he's he's a granddad as as your grandma. Right?
Speaker 3: Him.
Speaker 1: And, you know, when he's actually identifying what these people are posting in the group and what's going on, that actually helps save kids. Is he going to go to Mexico and go find someone chained up? No. Of course, he's not. But can he be that first step to actually doing that?
Of course, he can. He's actually doing a really good thing right now and, yeah. There's been some fucked up shit post in the group. I'm not gonna lie about that. But as far as we see, he hasn't been doing any of that himself.
It's just been, you know, wrong place, wrong time.
Speaker 3: Right. But if you say you went on there, even if it was by mistake, it can get it can get nasty.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not how I look at things. But, yeah, it could get nasty. Absolutely. But that's not how I look at things. Be careful.
Yeah. Of course. Of course. But, you know, if if you don't mind, we're getting some good info because he was saying, like, you know, these assholes are posting links and, know, I'm good with computers. So links is something that I can easily go to and just kinda see, like, you know, where this come from.
So me personally, no. I don't work with any PD here, but there's organizations like, you know, charities and stuff like that that this can get passed on. They do the they do the international stuff. I'm not, you know, if I if I wanted knocked on everybody who looked at porn home line, I wouldn't leave this neighborhood. You know what I mean?
So it's just it it just happened to be, like, out of all the Spanish people that, you know, we just had, like, 2 Tennessee numbers and that's all. And the other guy from Tennessee we talked to, it was very cordial conversation. You know, he was basically like, hey, this is kind of what they were posting. Yeah. I shouldn't have been here.
It's all good. And I'm like, yeah dude. Just kind of, you know, be careful. Just give him, like, a little love slap, you know. And then, not saying I actually slap him, but, you know, just give him, like, come on, dude.
And then move on. So that's kind of my plan here.
Speaker 3: My, my my angle is that I was pre law. Mhmm. Ditched it for a job that I didn't have to pay so much for school for. But, I mean and I don't plan pretend to know a lot of stuff. I just
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, you just gotta be careful. I mean, would it be better if he had a lawyer while he talked to you to help you figure some stuff out?
Speaker 1: Or Well, no. Because in that case, I mean, I take I take someone getting a lawyer as, like, oh, well, that's kinda shows me that there's more to it than just them getting added to groups. And that's kind of where I'm like, alright. Well, I don't I also don't have to be here myself.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, in in my case, that they took something that they just twisted it all around and it wasn't
Speaker 1: true
Speaker 3: at all. And my attorney was like, you shouldn't have talked to him.
Speaker 2: I was like, well,
Speaker 3: it was the truth. And he's like, well, you know, they can change it.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, obviously, I don't have any ability to change anything. But, you know, when it comes to child safety, I'm sure you guys as grand parents take that very seriously. Absolutely. And, you know, if there's if there's anything he can do, which he's doing a great job of to actually help make kids safer, which he's been doing, that's an opportunity that you can't turn down especially especially when, you know, like you said, it could be it could be twisted.
It could be absolutely twisted him being in the groups and, you know, I didn't come here to do that. I didn't come here being judgmental like, oh, why are you here and why is this and that. He actually clarified a lot of things where I'm like, oh, okay. That's a lot better than I thought it would be. So, yeah, that I mean, I'm sorry about your case, I mean, I don't really know about it but I'm, I'm sure that it was b s, but I'm sure it also wasn't some digital online bullshit either.
Speaker 3: No. It wasn't anything online, but
Speaker 1: So but
Speaker 3: my my kids would be surprised because I can't hardly turn one on. But
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Right. We're not supposed to do anything a lot.
Speaker 1: For sure. For sure.
Speaker 3: They'd be like, you can't even turn a computer on.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean if you want to, be here while we talk that's fine. Or if you want to go back inside it doesn't matter. I mean it's your domain.
You're the queen here. So, but, yeah. I mean, there there is important stuff because, you know, I I do care about it.
Speaker 2: But I really need to get to work. I'm sorry, but I really need to get to work.
Speaker 4: Okay. One second.
Speaker 3: Okay. Ready?
Speaker 4: Let's see. Okay.
Speaker 1: What time does your shift end today?
Speaker 2: 10:45. Okay. 11:15.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, if if you don't mind, could we just have like 15 more minutes to just, you know, kind of go over some last things then. You know, obviously, you can do whatever you want right now, but you know, I'll be cool if we just have like 15 more minutes and you know, I'm willing to kind of go after it because we're we're getting some good info on these on these on these people. If you don't mind, can we just have like 15 more minutes and then we'll
Speaker 2: Well, say what you gotta say so I can go to work.
Speaker 1: We can go to work right now, but you know I think for my peace of mind it would probably be important to, you know, kind of go over these last few things. What was your name? You said Nancy. Nancy. Nancy Kelyn?
Killing. Killing. Mhmm. Killing it, Nancy. Do you wanna stay out here for it or do you wanna go in?
Or because it it could get a little bit, graphic.
Speaker 3: You alright?
Speaker 2: Oh, you can stay.
Speaker 3: Okay. I'll stay. I think I can handle it.
Speaker 1: Okay. And if it's getting too much, you know, obviously, don't don't feel like you need to listen to this stuff because, you know, you know, you can hold your own though, he seems.
Speaker 2: Move or quit.
Speaker 1: Okay. So so, Dennis, on that group that I was talking about, the little angels for love, we know they were posting stuff like babies and toddlers in there and that type of stuff. You know, as far as I know, that's not stuff that, you know, you can leave like a little like like emoji on that shit. You know what I mean? Like, you can leave like a like like, you know, when you're texting somebody, you can leave, like, like their message or something like that.
We didn't see you leave any likes on that stuff. So, I'm not too worried about it, but I'm kinda I'm kinda curious how how often it was being posted. Like, I know in that little angels. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: have a clue.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I know in that Little Angels For Love group, it was semi often or whatever. But in these other groups, like, how often do really bad apples come in there and just start posting that super young stuff?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a clue.
Speaker 1: Okay. What's your what's your best guess? Because, you know, we know we can see when stuff is kinda clicked on.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, you know, Dennis, I mean, we're we're making such good progress here, but, you know, when stuff like this is getting posted, best teen linked teen nude videos, 5 to 17 year olds. That wasn't you that posted it. Obviously, I don't see you liking liking this. But, you know, we think there's a good possibility they're posting just very young very young things, like, in in these groups.
And again, I mean, you know, you told me you looked up some shit of teens. What what what fucking ever. But I'm more curious about the people that have are helpless. You know what I mean? Like, the babies that can't do anything.
Like, are your grandkids, like, young?
Speaker 3: Sadly, I started a bit young. So my oldest is gonna be 16 next month.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, there we go.
Speaker 3: We do have a Parkland and my step granddaughter is, 2. 2. Just turned 2.
Speaker 1: Right. So I hate I hate to bring her into this, but this this could this could be her in one of these videos that we're in. Obviously, I'm not I know she's not in the videos, but this this could be her that, it could be someone just like her in these videos. Yeah. So so that that's why I'm asking, like, you know, I know the ages didn't go down to just 13.
I mean, that's just that's not because you like that stuff. It's because of these Mexicans, they don't know what to stop posting. So I'm just asking, like, how often these other groups, have they posted just really young shit that just made your skin crawl or shit like that?
Speaker 2: I didn't have a clue.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, was there a reason that it would be maybe clicked on at all?
Speaker 2: Not that I know of. No.
Speaker 1: Okay. Because we did see some link clicks that in all those links, there were stuff that were just super, super young. Okay? And, you know, there could have been other shit on there too. I don't know.
But, you know, we know, unfortunately, if your eyes have been laid on some shit that's been super young, we haven't seen the videos ourselves. It just gets dinged as like, you know, there is like an AI program. Do you know what AI is?
Speaker 2: Artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, it is kind of like a super computer. And it just kind of scans. Like, it just gives it its best guess of an age. Like, it would look at me and think, you know, 35 and you know, I'm 34.
Like shit like that. So we've seen videos clicked on. Yesterday.
Speaker 4: Alright. Good.
Speaker 1: We've we've seen videos clicked on that were kind of viewed for a period of time. You didn't, like, leave a like on any of them or anything, but they're kind of viewed for a period of time. And some of the ages that popped up were like looked like 1, 2, 3, some of them were 6 and 7 and stuff. And this was stuff this wasn't this was stuff that was posted by other people but clicked on by your profile and the AI told us those ages. So I'm not really well, I guess the important part about that.
I think an I think an important part about that is the reason those could have been washed because, you know, there are people, dentists, that get off to babies. They they exist. It's probably, I mean, in the groups, I'm sure they exist. I mean, you you've seen these people in the groups. I'm curious why why why those were clicked on your end.
And, honestly, if they can be described and we can kinda figure out the race of some of these kids and maybe what the adult looked like in the videos, that'd be pretty important to kinda figure out, and that can lead us in the actual good direction. Because I'm not I don't care about getting someone, you know, fucked for having eyes and a brain that's curious. I mean, that's human nature, man. But we know those were clicked on and I'm just trying to find the reason. Like, what's the I mean, were you curious about this stuff?
Did you kinda click on it? What what happened with that?
Speaker 2: If I clicked it, it was a mistake.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. How many times do you think you accidentally clicked on some shit and like a super young video popped up? I'm not talking 13. I'm talking about, like, 1 to 5.
Speaker 2: Probably more than twice.
Speaker 1: Really? Okay. But that's not something that I was. Of course. Of course.
But just the fact knowing that these people are posting that fucking babies in this group. I mean, that that tells me that I gotta go after some of these groups. And guess what? When I do that, I'm leaving him out of that shit because that's important. Because if you can be a bowling ball that takes down fucking 10 bowling pins, why would I wanna destroy the bowling ball?
Makes no fucking sense to me. You know what I'm saying, Nancy? So
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just I don't understand who who you're with.
Speaker 1: Kid Protectors USA.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But, like, is that a non profit or
Speaker 1: Is it a non profit? No. It's more of like we're we're an organization. We're an organization. We're just kinda you know what an NGO is?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: It's a non governmental organization. So, you know, we just kinda help out with that. And, you know, we actually have resources too. We have resources for porn addiction. We have resources for just kinda Internet addiction and stuff like that.
And I'm leaning towards that's more of his situation than fucking, you know. I mean, this was a bodies in the basement situation. I wouldn't be the one showing up. You know what I mean? That's an I'm sure you wouldn't be out here kind of vouching for him either, but, you know.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily a body. It might be me, so I may not be out here. I'd be in the basement. Right.
Speaker 2: Right. Put the
Speaker 3: body in the basement.
Speaker 1: Don't even have basements out here, do you? Not really. Okay. Alright.
Speaker 3: Cross space.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You usually do. You usually ever work around kids or anything?
Speaker 3: I mean, I had 3 children, but Yeah. I worked in mental health Okay. For several years. I'm aligned with NAMI right now.
Speaker 1: So that's why you're so kinda comfortable hearing this stuff.
Speaker 3: I guess. You have, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Too much crime TV too probably.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, that that never helps anything. Okay. And, you know, this is this is good info. Like, if he like, I'm not gonna lie to you, Nancy. If he told me that, yeah, I have a video myself of him of me and a little baby, yeah, I'd be like, alright.
Just, I mean, I'd probably break the law myself and just fucking you know what I mean? And I'm not saying I would do that, but who who knows if I heard something like that. Right? But, you know, if she was clicked on and we get good info, like, about kinda what this asshole's posting. Goddamn, man.
I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: Y'all are recording. Right?
Speaker 1: We are under property, of course. Of course. Like that, that's, that's a non negotiable because dude, I'm 6 foot I know he's big, but I'm 6 foot 4 and, dude, all all it takes is and, you know, I know you can hold your own. I know I know you're 18, but, you know, all it takes is one little old lady to say, he threatened me and this and that. I'm like, absolutely the fucking god.
I did not. So that's kinda why I'm at at that's for my ass.
Speaker 3: You could see where I'm standing. If he helps you
Speaker 1: Mhmm.
Speaker 3: And and thereby is admitting to anything, then it's on tape and video and Well that can't be a good situation.
Speaker 1: Sure. But what I'm talking about, I'm talking about child trafficking and child rape. Him saying that he clicked on a link that was some asshole trafficking a kid, that doesn't mean he child trafficked. That means that he's helping me find that person who did. Yeah.
Bozo was a little bit of a dumbass and went into some groups you shouldn't have been into. I'm not gonna sugarcoat that. I'm not gonna say, oh, no. It's all good. I'm like, no.
But, you know, there's a difference between being a little dorky and then actually doing some bad shit. And if I thought he was doing bad shit, I wouldn't have called his job ahead of time and said, hey. It might be a little bit today.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Police are allowed to log.
Speaker 1: They are?
Speaker 3: So, you know, a dewy police person.
Speaker 1: I'm not a cop.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, though? That's why I'm just, like, you're not.
Speaker 1: I may be a pig, but I'm not a cop.
Speaker 3: What the fuck is that?
Speaker 1: Did you wanna be all calls?
Speaker 3: Negative. Negative. I did not.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a neighbor or something.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's why you called.
Speaker 1: Well, how would I have called?
Speaker 2: You just had your phone now.
Speaker 1: Nope. I can show you my phone history right now. Literally, look. Well, it's literally did not call any cops.
Speaker 3: No. I didn't.
Speaker 1: You sure maybe it was your grandkid?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Alright.
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna sir, how's it going? I'm alright. How are you? Good.
Speaker 3: Somebody in there can't look at these?
Speaker 1: I would not assume so. I didn't Are they
Speaker 3: afraid of me? They think I look menacing since I came over and joined the conversation.
Speaker 1: Well, you can't mess with a country leader from Tennessee. Maybe so.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm actually from Alabama.
Speaker 1: Even even worse. Yes. How's how's it going, sir? Great. Hello.
Hi, Eric. We're just we're just we're just kinda having a conversation here about, you know, he he he clicked on a few groups that had some child porn in them. And, basically, these these asshole idiots and these he was, I mean, he was giving me great info on these people who are posting me. They're posting just these news, like 13 year old and now that nasty shit in there. Right?
Speaker 2: Well, they were young. I don't know. 13.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But, I mean, you know, he I mean, he told me that they they were in these groups. I mean, he clicked on 2 videos that were like of a 1 to 5 year old just fucking Yep. Probably. It was some crazy it was some crazy shit.
I mean, I mean, they they were supposed to really fucked up shit in some of these groups, weren't they? I mean, goddamn, man. It's pretty bad, Okay. Well
Speaker 3: So when were you here?
Speaker 2: We got a call that somebody was viewing child pornography.
Speaker 1: Are you curious about this stuff? Okay.
Speaker 2: You can hang on. Can I chat with you for you?
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah. Okay. I'll get with you in a second. If you don't mind.
Okay. Like a super young radio popped up. I'm not talking 13 Top Valley. 1 to 5.
Speaker 2: That's not relevant to me
Speaker 1: right now. Okay.
Speaker 3: So you do work with the cops around I
Speaker 1: don't work with the cops.
Speaker 3: I just got I just got a few work with the cops. And I said,
Speaker 1: well, cops are a lot of cops. I
Speaker 4: Goddamn it,
Speaker 1: dude. You would have confessed to everything.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: After a good start.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Guys, get clips ASAP with him, like, saying a 13 year old and shit like that. We need that crap ASAP, especially for this guy. Oh, goddamn it. Okay.
Here.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude. Why is this Oh, until until fucking
Speaker 1: Yeah. He shut down, though. Until she He shut down when she came in. Oh, I know. Pretty well, Nancy.
I know.
Speaker 4: How how could anybody, like how can anybody just hear that and be like, well, I don't want him to admit to any
Speaker 1: nigga, like, he just married you in 2018. Like, did you not, like, wouldn't you wanna know this stuff? Yeah. She was saying how she's a defendant. She got, I work myself.
Yeah. I know. Boss bitches are just so annoying. So insufferable. I was surprisingly calm for just how much bullshit it was for you.
I thought you were gonna go off, am I gonna lie? No. I'm just at a zen level with their bullshit now.
Speaker 4: That's okay. He admitted
Speaker 1: to looking at a 13 year old nude. That's that's enough to take his phone. Bro, that's that's like the hardest fucking thing. Things like with Nerdsky. Oh, I don't know.
Because it's not like I got hacked or this because that's, like, so easy to just get a rebuttal. Yeah. But it's okay. You just gotta list out, like, alternatives. Like, oh, you're probably just on this.
He's like, yeah. Yeah. I was on Facebook. Yeah. For sure you were, motherfucker.
But, no, that's but he did say, like I'm like, how many times have you clicked on somebody else? Like, 1 to 1 through 5. He's like, more than twice. Yeah. So that's oh, gosh.
She wasn't out there, like, could've gotten so much detail out of this guy. I was, like, whittling away at him. I'm not too disappointed of this one because yeah. Obviously, Nancy coming out, but he's still, like he was gonna he was gonna fess up. Just took a little bit.
Speaker 4: He was taking the bait of, like, how we saw it was clicked on. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out why, dude. I'm just trying to figure out why. She knows the damn fucking well. I did get it for Zoom calls.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Did you
Speaker 1: say you never saw a
Speaker 4: child for an arm?
Speaker 1: He said, no. I haven't. Bro, what the
Speaker 4: bro, he's in 15 groups, officer. Like, why doesn't he fucking Yeah. Officer, of course, you're not gonna admit it as
Speaker 1: if you're in child pornography. You gotta get everything sent to you? Guys, I need the guys, send me clips where he's like where he
Speaker 4: talks about the 13 year old, please. Like, we need that shit ASAP. Send it to my phone number, 832-723-6937. 832-733-6937.
Speaker 1: Someone already sent the clip of him saying he's clicked on videos. 25. It's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wasn't being disrespectful. I've gotta take control.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No. No. 100%. You're not law enforcement.
100%. 100%. And I have to
Speaker 2: I have to for his for my sake and investigate his sake, I gotta be on his side.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, 100%. 100%. Okay. Okay.
So we have Yep.
Speaker 2: ID on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's in the core mega I get it. Okay. So did you get a smile on that one?
Speaker 4: Not yet. Okay.
Speaker 1: I still want him to go deleting shit.
Speaker 2: Let's tell me what you're doing here.
Speaker 1: Well, so we we have a group where we catch online child predators and we typically post monitors online, predators message a kid, blah blah blah to meet up. But what we've been doing recently is we've been we've been kind of finding groups online where we think people are posting child porn. We have all the settings off in the group so we don't see any of the images. So for example, we found this guy listed in a group. It just kinda looks like well, not Justin Trudeau, but it kinda looks like Horse is it kinda looks like this.
So you see this phone number, and we run his phone number, we see it comes out to him. And I confirm that is his phone I guess you got his phone number too, but I confirm that's his phone number too, when I first talked to him. And so we go into groups, all the images look like this. So obviously, we can't, like, see what it is. We can just think.
And, so he was in, like, 15 groups that we saw that were all, like, called little kids, little angels, CP this, CP that. So, we have arrests across the country of confronting people over that stuff. So I talked to him. He at first was like, I have no idea. I don't know.
I don't know. And I basically told him, like, well dude, we can see what links are clicked on. This and that. Like, obviously, I'm a tech notary. I'm not gonna get any of that shit, but, you know, I was convincing enough, I guess.
And he admitted to viewing pictures that he said were like 13 or 14, like full frontal nudes in the group. And obviously, from what more honest people have told us, it never stops at that. And, you know, his his wife like, we were talking for like an hour and a half and that's what he admitted to. And he said that he's found the links on Facebook and his wife came out and started kinda, like, helping him shut down. But before that, I was like, dude, I know there was stuff clicked on of Super Young stuff, like stuff like between 1 through 5.
I'm just trying to find the reason it was clicked on, dude. And he's like, okay, well, I've clicked on that stuff. His words verbatim more than twice of a video of a 1 to 5 year old. Unfortunately, it got shut down before we could get into details about what the video was. But, I mean, you know, it's not a video of them crawling.
Right. Right. Okay. Alright. And where did y'all come from?
Houston, Texas. We're no. We're in Ohio yesterday. So we just take trips across the country.
Speaker 2: How do you fund this?
Speaker 1: Well, people support us to see the work we put in. So
Speaker 2: Why don't you, why don't you incorporate law enforcement?
Speaker 1: Stuff? Well, Tennessee, specifically, you know, they don't want anything to do with, like, groups like this. Not just us, but, I mean, we have one arrest in Tennessee, on child porn. And we had another guy in Knoxville that admitted in front of the cops and the cops just literally just let him walk that day, like, without even taking his phone. So, kind of, Tennessee's been, pretty discouraging for us, but other states have been great.
So, but I think this guy here is pretty it's pretty damning, like everything he's a part of. Alright. Let
Speaker 2: me holler at him.
Speaker 1: Okay. Can you get your, your Yeah. And and we have clips for you to play too of him saying this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's on his phone for, like I know. I know, dude.
Speaker 4: He's fucking deleting everything off.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Alright. Give me the mice.
Speaker 4: Here we go. Alright.
Speaker 1: We have a slip from off to the deep wash. Yeah. I think do you wash that already? I think just Or do you just tell me? You got Both?
I don't think I played the whole thing for you. Okay. So have there been
Speaker 2: I'm not playing the vigilante bullshit. Turn the cameras off, but I would like to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, sir. I'm gonna start actually a trip to that. I couldn't agree anymore.
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Video Transcript AI Summary
In this video, Gordon confronts Kevin about his inappropriate conversations with a 13-year-old girl online. They discuss the explicit messages and photos exchanged, as well as Kevin's involvement in online forums discussing underage individuals. Kevin admits to engaging in these conversations and receiving explicit photos from others. He mentions using apps like Reddit and Kik for these interactions. Gordon emphasizes the seriousness of the situation and the potential legal consequences. Kevin agrees to stop his behavior and deletes the apps from his phone. Additionally, the video features another speaker discussing their experience with explicit content involving infants and toddlers on platforms like Reddit, Kik, Telegram, and Wicker. They admit to receiving and sending explicit photos and videos primarily on their phone, but deny personal involvement with children. They mention using the Mega app briefly and express a preference for classic rock music. Towards the end of the video, law enforcement officers arrive at Kevin's residence and confiscate his electronic devices, potentially leading to his arrest for involvement with child pornography.
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Speaker 0: Let him
Speaker 1: know how to live and try to get his name.
Speaker 0: How's it going? So so do you happen to know who, do you know the name of the guy who lives at number 12? Bro, are you? Yeah. Oh, so nice to meet you, though.
Nice to meet you too. You're the one. I don't fuck with what you do so much. Well, appreciate it. I watch your shit all the time.
Yeah. But well, number 12 is, you know? He's 2? Does that ring a bell? I don't
Speaker 2: really know.
Speaker 0: How about having talked
Speaker 2: to him.
Speaker 0: God. Makes sense. Yeah. I just seem fast. Just don't turn.
Like, just don't like What what do you mean
Speaker 2: you said?
Speaker 0: Just be, like, hey, it's your neighbor.
Speaker 1: It's your neighbor. Like, just just be, like, it's your neighbor. Like, somebody delivered a package to your door or something. Like, say, I
Speaker 0: I gotta, like I don't know if someone do it. Just be like it's your neighbor.
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 0: Hey. It's your neighbor.
Speaker 2: I think
Speaker 3: I got a package for you. Hey. Look, man. We just wanna have a conversation with you. Okay?
This doesn't need to escalate into some extra bullshit. Alright? We don't wanna come here to your apartment. We wanna just talk to you in public somewhere, but, you know, we didn't come to your job. We came here to talk to you.
This is not good this is not going to go away by hiding. We know every single thing about you. We're not we're we are not going to hurt you or do anything like that. We're just here to talk to you. Dude, avoiding this is not gonna make it go away.
All we wanna do is just talk to you, man. But after tonight, we're done. We can always do some other shit too. We we didn't have to come here and talk to you. I got a whole night, man.
But after tonight, I'm done. I'm gonna figure out something else. Your neighbor next to you already knows what's going on. We didn't we we didn't go tell him the whole building. Is this is this how you want it to go down?
This is how it's gonna end up. I could always just go to your job, which I did not do. Just open the door. We we will have a quiet conversation about this. I promise you.
Come on. Just cut, dude. Just come to the door, man. We're not we're not gonna hurt you. Just come on.
Speaker 0: Do you
Speaker 3: have any weapons on you? Any weapons on you? Have
Speaker 4: a weapon.
Speaker 0: Any weapons on you? Can you turn
Speaker 3: the light on?
Speaker 0: I was
Speaker 2: laying in
Speaker 0: the bed. Okay. Alright. Can we come in and talk so people don't overhear this shit?
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 0: Alright. I got I got 3 people with me if you want me
Speaker 2: to come. Yep.
Speaker 0: So what's your name?
Speaker 2: Kevin.
Speaker 0: Kevin. Any
Speaker 3: weapons in the house at all?
Speaker 0: No. Okay. Well, my name is Gordon. I'm sorry to meet you like this, Kevin. Okay.
But we're gonna talk about Ariel. Okay? Okay. If you don't mind. You can you can shut the door.
I don't want anybody to well, I'm just gonna have a seat here.
Speaker 2: Or I guess. Alright.
Speaker 0: And, of course, I'm on your property, so everything's just being filmed for safety reasons. I hear the blast here if anything stupid like that. I could've done that shit already. So I'm not here to do it here. Alright?
Of course, it's and it's voluntary to talk to me. I want you to understand that, but I also want you to understand I don't have to come here and talk to you. You know what I mean? I have every single thing saved. See what I'm saying?
Yeah. Okay. You kinda know what I'd be here to talk to you about?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah. I figured it out.
Speaker 0: Okay. I'm glad you're not stupid. I appreciate it. I mean, I like the I like the collection you have. It was just retro stuff.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So how old are you?
Speaker 2: 30.
Speaker 0: 30? Are you so you're actually 30?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. What is your last name?
Speaker 2: So what's this?
Speaker 0: Well, I'm just I know your last name. I'm just guessing how honest we are.
Speaker 2: So who are you?
Speaker 0: Well, my name is Gordon. We're the group we just call Kid Protectors USA. We just make sure that kids don't talk to adults and vice versa. But, you know, obviously, you know, this could go one of many ways. And, you you know, one of the things that I appreciate out of people is everybody every single person does shit or makes mistakes.
You know, I'm fucking not perfect. Nobody you're not. He's not. He's not. He's not.
He's not. Nobody is. But, you know, it's how we address them. And, you know, you're not 50 or 30. Right?
You're not a kid but you're also not some old fart just going around. You know what I mean? Right. So I I do wanna kinda see where we are honesty wise and you know, is always something I'm willing to work with. Okay?
Like, I'm not, you know, you you know, I could I could scold him about anything. Right? I could scold him about anything. I could scold you about anything. But, you know, the thing that I actually do scold people on is they're just not honest.
You know what I mean? And honesty is something I appreciate. So that's why I'm asking, what is your last name? Perkins. Perkins?
Okay. So before we get into anything, what do you think I am talking to you about here?
Speaker 2: About that girl online.
Speaker 0: Alright. How old is that girl online?
Speaker 2: Apparently, 13th, 1. Okay.
Speaker 0: I appreciate your honesty. I think it's gonna go pretty damn smoothly if you keep that up. Okay. What do you think I'm talking to you about with her?
Speaker 2: Speaking inappropriately, I guess.
Speaker 0: Okay. Yeah. Sure. What was some of the stuff said back and forth?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know exact words. Yeah. Yeah. Just a
Speaker 0: I I don't need it. Just a general, like, kind of summary of what happened.
Speaker 2: Make sure everything, general chats Yeah. Little sexual stuff. And Okay.
Speaker 0: Were any pictures sent one way or the other?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. What was sent to her?
Speaker 2: Nude shots, whatever.
Speaker 0: Okay. Of your penis? Okay. Thank you. Appreciate you, man.
Yep. Keep doing what I need. Will do. New shots of your PA's were sent to her?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. Did she send you any news back?
Speaker 2: No. Okay.
Speaker 0: So, I'm talking to you about something that happened today. You were in a Walgreens parking lot.
Speaker 2: CVS?
Speaker 0: Yeah. CVS. Right. What was kinda why were you at a Walgreens? Fuck me.
Why are you at a CVS parking lot today?
Speaker 2: Well, originally, we were supposed to meet up, and I was gonna get off work and go over there. Okay.
Speaker 0: What do
Speaker 2: you do for that? Work? Working factory.
Speaker 0: Okay. Well, like, you don't have to say where like, what what kind of stuff do you build?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like tool and die stuff.
Speaker 0: Tool and die stuff? Yeah. So what product does that end up going on to? Brackets for cars and stuff. Okay.
Well, I mean, thank you for that. Not everybody's willing to work in a factory, and I appreciate what you're willing to do for people. So Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been there since I got to school.
Speaker 0: Really? So you've been 12 years there?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Pretty much. Wow.
Speaker 0: How much do you get paid an hour for me to ask?
Speaker 2: Well, I started up minimum wage in 2011.
Speaker 0: Sure.
Speaker 2: And I worked my way up from start out sorting parts, stuff like that. Mhmm.
Speaker 0: And then
Speaker 2: around the welder. Just like a spot welder, you push the buttons and it comes down, pushing up on the rackets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And then, I was a press operator and for the majority of it. And now I work up from the tool and that repair.
Speaker 0: Okay. Nice. So what are they paying you?
Speaker 2: Up to 23 20 something now.
Speaker 0: It's not bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, I
Speaker 0: have to afford this and a good collection. So
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It used to be my first story is 7.50, so it's pretty
Speaker 0: Yeah. 3 times pay isn't too bad. What did you, any other apps you talked to, Ariel on besides Instagram? No. Okay.
Do you only talk to her with Telegram or anything?
Speaker 2: No. Okay. I was asked about Telegram. I said I don't have it. Okay.
Speaker 0: How true is that? Well, you have
Speaker 2: to tell her. No. I don't have it. Okay.
Speaker 0: Okay. Just generally curious what you know about. Okay. So you're supposed to meet her up today. What was kinda and and I know it was hard to talk about, but again, I'm gonna work through everything here.
What was kinda supposed to happen today without me having to go through every single one of these and, you know, embarrass you, waste our time, and any of that shit?
Speaker 2: Well, nothing specific. If if it had happened, it would've been whatever she had wanted to do. Okay. So nothing No. Obviously.
I was feeling pretty bad about it and decided to backtrack and
Speaker 0: Well, I'm not gonna discuss that with you because you're waiting on her to come outside. So I'm not gonna even entertain that, what you just said there. So but that that's kind of something I was trying to figure out because to me, there's a big difference between forced and consensual.
Speaker 2: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: So you said leave it if it were to happen, it would have been her decision?
Speaker 2: What
Speaker 0: are we talking about there with that?
Speaker 2: Well, everything was in there.
Speaker 0: I mean Okay. So so for example, intercourse living her decision today?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess so. Okay.
Speaker 0: So so today Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was feeling pretty iffy about it and
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 2: Back and forth, obviously.
Speaker 0: Sure. Well, so today intercourse would have only happened if she was, I guess, the one to bring it up or either willing to do it? Yeah. Okay. Got it.
So so what if she said no to intercourse?
Speaker 2: Nothing happened.
Speaker 0: Okay. You planning on using, like, a condom or a raw?
Speaker 2: Or I don't think I even discussed that. But
Speaker 0: Well, I mean, what was going on in your mind there? Like, do you have a condom ready? Or
Speaker 2: I've I've got one in there. But Okay.
Speaker 0: I mean, was that something that, you know, you were planning on using if she was okay with it? Or were you planning on doing it raw? Like, I mean, no judgment here.
Speaker 2: No. So which one? Well, if I was going to, then I guess, call them. But Okay.
Speaker 0: Okay. But I never yeah. Obviously, she never came over here. But okay. So would you find it hot if I took a pick of my dick over a pick of you to make it look like you're about to suck it?
And you sent her here a picture, of okay. Do you ever do a few contributes to her?
Speaker 2: No. I don't think so. Okay. Do those to the picture?
Speaker 0: Well, you you took a few, photos of your account.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. But that was not something that was something I already had saved on my phone at one time. Okay.
I just sent it.
Speaker 0: Okay. Wilson, did you any contribute specifically to her?
Speaker 2: I don't think I did. Okay.
Speaker 0: So this right here, what video is this right here?
Speaker 2: Masturbation video, I guess. Okay.
Speaker 0: Okay. This is your profile picture, I think. Well, now you always wear gray sweats. So you say here, my your mom definitely wouldn't want you hanging out with me. I wanna feel you close, put my arms around you, and touch your beautiful body wherever you'd let me.
Okay. So like you said, consensual stuff, not anything forced. I'd love to see the reaction on your face when I start rubbing you down there. Would be cute if you made sounds for me. She's hee hee what kind of sounds you want me to make, and hear on your end instead.
If I made you moan whimper, it would be pretty hot, but more so if the moan was real and not faked. So what about, kind of this whole thing was appealing to you? I mean, I'm not judging at all, but
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. You probably talked to several people before, I'm assuming.
Speaker 0: Yeah. But, you know, a lot of them are like the, how do I put it? A lot of them come across a lot worse. Yeah. You know?
Like, a lot of them are just like I mean You guys have
Speaker 2: done that before?
Speaker 0: Yeah. I mean, the r a p e word and all that shit. You know, I didn't really see that from you. Like, that's why I didn't I mean, if they pulled the same stuff that you did today of just kinda driving around, giving us a goose chase, I would've just given up and said, no. Fuck it.
That's it. I don't give a fuck anymore. But since you I guess you are actually 30, and you didn't have any of those really, I guess Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't really make up stuff. But Yeah. Yeah. I really did.
Speaker 0: Yeah. But since you didn't have any of those, like, really forceful messages, I was like, okay. I mean, let's just give this guy a chance to actually talk about it. So Okay. So I guess the better question is, like, how did how did this kind of curiosity start for you?
I'm not talking about with her. I'm talking about, like, this younger stuff.
Speaker 2: I guess sometimes the Internet can be like a downward spiral. And you get on places like Reddit and this and that. A rabbit hole? Okay. And it's just I don't know.
I guess it's just certain things. I feel it's on my entry. It's not like you just start there, I guess.
Speaker 0: Yeah. No. I I know you didn't wake up one day and say, I wanna text a 13 year old girl. Like, I I get that. So you said a downward spiral.
So how did Reddit take you through through a downward spiral?
Speaker 2: I guess there's a lot of, like, the what you call them, not safe for work subs. And there's all kinds of people of all kinds of ages and sexuality stuff on there.
Speaker 0: Oh, okay. So Reddit isn't only just 18 plus?
Speaker 2: No. I think it's 13 plus.
Speaker 0: Okay. So how did Reddit kind of, so what specifically I guess, what specifically on Reddit?
Speaker 2: There's people that basically probably shouldn't be on there that are on there.
Speaker 0: Oh, like, younger younger girls? Okay. So about what so I assume they had talked to you then?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. How old were these how long ago and how old were they?
Speaker 2: Various teenagers, like, from that age, little older to twenties. You know?
Speaker 0: Okay. So 13 into adulthood even. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2: After all, teenagers. Yeah. That's fair.
Speaker 0: What are some of the things so, say, a 13 year old on Reddit, like, what would be the topic of
Speaker 2: discussion with that? I mean, in the past, probably similar to that. Really? But it varies. It depends if I came across a post and just wanted to have a chat or something.
Speaker 0: Sure. Sure. So
Speaker 2: take down my profile if I posted something or whatever.
Speaker 0: So they would make a post and then people would just kinda message them?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Pretty much that's what I have goes on there.
Speaker 0: What kind of so yeah. I I don't really know Reddit too well. I know other apps. Like, obviously, I'm an Instagram whiz, but I'm not familiar with Reddit too much. So what what what what kind of post would a 13 year old girl make on Reddit?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Lots of advice. So making friends, chat, whatever kind of stuff. Just kind of
Speaker 0: an ad to talk to somebody?
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's literally, like, a sub for very much any topic, I guess. It's
Speaker 0: Got it. Oh, okay. Got it. So, well, it's pretty worldwide. They're pretty, diverse in what you say.
You're talking about, like, football on there. You're talking about sex. You talk about NASCAR. A little
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I'm a little bit of a techno tard with where we're headed. Then here he said, I'd I'd love for you to drain the come out of my big balls for me. So in what way did you mean that?
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no other way to mean it, I guess.
Speaker 0: Well, there's sucking, fucking, stroking?
Speaker 2: Both, I guess.
Speaker 0: Okay. From having sex. Okay. By pleasure and me, feeling your touch, using your mouth, I'm from having sex. I love showing you off knowing that you were supposed to not to like each other due to the, the taboo of our age difference taught to me.
So that yeah. Just flip that off. So the taboo is But maybe or something. Okay. So you you said here the taboo is kind of hot to you.
Can you kinda because again, like, I think you're someone that's young enough to kinda separate yourself from this type of stuff. Right. Yeah. So what what would that taboo like, what I mean, obviously, I know what taboo is, but but how is that hot to you? You know, I'm just using your words here for that.
Speaker 2: I suppose just sometimes the risk of whatever makes it appealing or something, you know. And I don't know how to explain what makes someone turned on or
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 2: Like something. Whatever.
Speaker 0: For sure. So how how long ago did that Reddit rabbit will start for you? I guess, couple of years. Okay. Year or 2.
So this, I'm not saying this is overtaking your life, but this kind of, you know, sexual stuff with people a little bit younger than 18 has kinda just been a part of your life off and on for a couple years?
Speaker 2: Estimated. That's what it is.
Speaker 0: Okay. Yeah. I'm not saying, like, you know, July 15, 2019. It's everything you switched. Yeah.
I know. Okay. Any other apps besides Reddit where this stuff has kinda been talked about and can maybe get someone carried away or down a rabbit hole?
Speaker 2: No. I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of them out there.
Speaker 0: Yeah. In your experience. Like, what are some other what are some other ones that people have talked about on Reddit or whatever?
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I don't have Telegram. I knew about Telegram.
Speaker 0: Okay. Telegram. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
What did you see Telegram talk about? In Telegram they said Telegram was, like, a thing for this type of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: Where did you see them talk about Telegram?
Speaker 2: On Reddit.
Speaker 0: On Reddit?
Speaker 2: On my subs and stuff.
Speaker 0: Got it. I do wanna send you a text message here.
Speaker 2: Okay. You wanna do a second? Sure.
Speaker 0: So what
Speaker 2: are you gonna do with this?
Speaker 0: Just kinda wanna stay in touch with you after tonight. I texted you my name too. Okay. Is this, like, a real number, or is this, like
Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's turned off, and my phone's, powered off.
Speaker 0: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Later than, charging.
Speaker 0: Oh, oh, okay. But your phone's not, like, off. So Kevin, Perkins. Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I had them. They're charging them the Mazda. Gotcha.
Speaker 0: What's going on?
Speaker 2: This is a feedback.
Speaker 0: Okay. Was that, like, messing with anything? Can you just can you just unplug that?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 0: Alright. So, okay. So Telegram or something like that. Okay. Do they talk about any other apps on Reddit?
Speaker 2: I don't really use any of those other apps. They have they have other apps, yeah.
Speaker 0: Which ones have they talked about? Because, you know, obviously I'm here talking to you, but there are truly bad people out there that do use those other apps religiously. And if you can kinda point me in the direction of the other apps, we can not only I mean, yeah. Sure. We found someone going after a 13 year old repositioning ass.
Whatever. Big deal. But, you know, from there we can actually if with your good information, we can actually find people that are doing this in person, real life, filming this. And I'm not talking about 13 year olds. I mean, life.
Just anybody. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you're implying.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So so what other apps have you seen them talk about on Reddit?
Speaker 2: Well, I know there used to be Wicker, but it's shutting shut down now.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Wicker shut down. Yeah. Any other ones that you brought up?
Speaker 2: There's probably Session maybe.
Speaker 0: Sessions. Okay.
Speaker 2: That's pretty much
Speaker 0: what I don't know. Sessions are kind of a new one there?
Speaker 2: I think so. Okay.
Speaker 0: So what kinda, do do they post similar stuff on Reddit to, like, Telegram, for example?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I've never seen Telegram.
Speaker 0: Okay. Got it. So about how many, younger ladies under 18 over the years do you think have talked to you or whatever messaged you online?
Speaker 2: Well, assuming that they're honest about the relationship, I have no idea who
Speaker 0: is Yeah. I believe her. That's her. Of course.
Speaker 2: I mean, probably dozens, I guess. Dozens? It's just been a while. Okay. Literally just random.
I mean, people
Speaker 0: Just written all over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody that were that was in Kentucky?
Speaker 2: No. I don't think so.
Speaker 0: Alright. How long have you had this phone number for?
Speaker 2: Ever since I got a smartphone, I'm on plan. So it's been I used to be on the dash plan for a long time. Mhmm. And I'm trying to think. It's been probably 10 or 9.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So long time. That's fine. Okay. So, you know, say we talk to dozens of people that are younger than 18 over the years.
How many of them, saw your penis? And how many of them like, how many of them send nudes back and forth to you?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe half and half, but probably.
Speaker 0: Okay. So some of these chicks have actually were brazen enough to just go ahead and send a stranger a nude online?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess so.
Speaker 0: What the fuck? Okay. And you reciprocated those sometimes?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: When's the last time somebody purporting they were under 18th issued a new photo?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's been a while because it's been probably just a month that I was taking back and forth there or something.
Speaker 0: Okay. So, you didn't text anybody else in the course of this month? Mhmm. Okay. Is Reddit like something on your phone, computer?
Or
Speaker 2: Well, it used to be my phone, but I deleted it. Okay. When did
Speaker 0: you get rid of Reddit?
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 0: Today? Yeah. After this kinda happened? Yeah. Okay.
What other apps do you get rid of today?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Instagram. I deleted it for sure. Mhmm. Basically, it's chat.
Facebook and I think Snapchat. Mhmm. Snapchat. That's what it is. Okay.
Speaker 0: So did you ever have a Telegram
Speaker 2: account? No. Okay. Yeah. I downloaded it for and then it asked for a phone number or something so I just didn't use it.
Speaker 0: What did you download it?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can pull up my Google Play or something, I guess, if you would. Okay. I just never used it though.
Speaker 0: Okay. I see. Ever have the app Kik?
Speaker 2: I have had that. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. Do you have Kik still? No. Okay. Any, trying to think, man.
Because we did see you on Telegram a few months ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had it. I I downloaded it like I said. Mhmm. But I never actually got around to using it.
Speaker 0: Okay. Because it asked for a phone number.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't really like that. Okay. Because no other apps seem to do that.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Like, you can you
Speaker 2: can use email or you can use this or that. Sure. Sure.
Speaker 0: Have you come across any other adults online that kinda talk about younger people under 18? Like, it's just like a, like, forum discussion boards?
Speaker 2: Yeah. But like you said, what you're talking about they're looking for, I grossed me out because I'm not into the cheating stuff. So
Speaker 0: Right. So where'd you where'd you see that being talked about though? Because that's definitely something I'd wanna go on.
Speaker 2: That's that's usually like Reddit subreddits.
Speaker 0: Subreddits. What what would these subreddits be called?
Speaker 2: Like, cupcake, jerkbuds, like, random inappropriate
Speaker 0: stuff. Okay. And what would they kinda talk about?
Speaker 2: They talk about, like, selling new photos and Oh, I'm closing people's pictures. Of
Speaker 0: underage? Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Do they post these photos publicly or these, like, in the DM?
Speaker 2: Oh, they usually post a thing like click here to buy or click here to chat, whatever. And that is taken down usually shortly after.
Speaker 0: Sure. Sure.
Speaker 2: Moderators on there. So Okay. Yeah. They get on there and they're pretty open to it. Wow.
Speaker 0: Have any of them tried to DM you to trade before?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I usually ignore it because I just wanted to talk to some Jacob, not some random
Speaker 0: guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do they ask you to trade?
Speaker 2: Basically what you're talking about. CPA.
Speaker 0: And Okay. Is this something they so this is like a direct you were direct messages to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been messaging them for it. Okay. I've had accounts since I've been here.
Speaker 0: So do do you, like, so how would they have found you? Do you do you, like, make posts on those forms too? Just saying something?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm there
Speaker 0: and you're looking for, like,
Speaker 2: a section partner or something or, like, somebody to chat with. Mhmm. And then you'll get all kinds of different people.
Speaker 0: You know?
Speaker 2: Some of them just say, hey. Whatever. This is, you know but some of them are just like you said, they're looking for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 0: Okay. So people DM'd you after that asking to trade?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: I know it's kind of a tough question, but, you know, obviously, the only reason I'm asking you this is because there's a fat difference between just being online and, you know, you get wrong place, wrong time. Somebody just, you know, pulls you into some bullshit you didn't even ask to be a part of. So from what I'm gathering, you know, you obviously you know, you're just looking for people to talk to, but, you know, you're in the same just kind of areas people are actually up to no good. So with that, I wanna ask, how many of these people and if any have, I do wanna try to get their names if to the best of your knowledge you can remember. How many of these people tried to like send you, like, news of younger people?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know any names or anything like that because they're usually pretty proud with that stuff on there and they don't go by the real name. They just have some made up account.
Speaker 0: Okay. How many of those people do you think have sent you nudes of younger people? Like, you know, you told me, like, people posing as like or posing more real doesn't you didn't really know. Yeah. But, you know, there's been purported teenagers under 18 that's that sent you nudes.
I'm not asking that. I'm asking, have there been any adults? Or if there have been, how many of it do you think, adults that have had that, you know, have collected nudes of younger ladies under 18 or younger guys under 18 and just spam you with it or send it to you unsolicited, stuff like that because that's definitely shit we wanna go after Mhmm. Most people. So how many of you think have done that?
Or how often does it happen? Or
Speaker 2: Well, it has happened before. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 0: What? I don't
Speaker 2: know like a number or anything.
Speaker 0: Okay. I guess how often does it happen then?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't really know how to
Speaker 0: Okay. Over the course of a month, how many times do you think it goes down? Probably a few times. Really? It just they just said new job.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that but because I like I said, I'm not interested in that.
Speaker 0: No. No. I know. But like, I mean just either they just you know, I'm not saying you ask for it. I'm just saying how many times over the course of like a month do people just send you a nude photo of some underage person?
Speaker 2: Maybe once a month and once a month. That'd be probably more
Speaker 0: So it happens like once once in a blue moon? Yeah. Okay. Do they send do they send you pictures, videos, both? Or
Speaker 2: Yeah. That I've had people send me pictures and videos. What? Yeah. Oh my god.
Speaker 0: What app would you say is the worst on for that type of stuff?
Speaker 2: I still say definitely Reddit.
Speaker 0: Really? The worst. So Reddit still allows people to send that shit?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's, like, just in their messages like that.
Speaker 0: But basically, Reddit doesn't moderate it. I'll ask you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That would I usually ask you if you have or something with it. And I know I'm not downloading it. I'm not not getting on
Speaker 0: Telegram and messaging on Telegram. Yeah. Yeah. Holy cow. So do they send you, like so when they send you that kind of, you know, younger stuff, naked under 18, do they usually send you these pics and videos?
Is it like a link to them or do they just send it in the chat? Like, how does that kinda work? Or is it both? Or
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess both. And I don't like to click no links on the website.
Speaker 0: Okay. Do you know what the links are called that they send?
Speaker 2: No. Not really. It'd be like it'll be like it's almost like a website or something. Really? And it's like some generic letters and numbers and it doesn't look it looks fishy.
Speaker 0: Okay. Are those websites in English or other languages?
Speaker 2: It'll be like HTTP, you know, backslash, whatever.
Speaker 0: So what is the layout of those websites look like?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't it's it's literally random letters and none of those.
Speaker 0: No. Sure. But say say the link's clicked say the link's clicked on, like, what like, what what is it? What do you kinda see? Because there are a few websites I have in mind, that we're kinda working with here.
And I wonder if that even extends to Reddit too because we're only working on finding who made those websites and the people on those websites. And, you know, you don't come to mind with that. But I think, you know, you're a piece of you'll be a piece of the puzzle. How can we figure it out? And obviously, you know, the more you separate yourself from those types of people Yeah.
Obviously, the more I mean, you've been doing a great job of that, which I really fucking appreciate, dude. Yeah. So, so that's why I wanna ask you. What are the layouts of the that's those sites look like when it's clicked on?
Speaker 2: It'd probably be, like, a thing pulling up. I assume, like, a username or password or something.
Speaker 0: Okay. But, but what does it show image or picture wise or video wise on those sites?
Speaker 2: Like sexual acts GIFs or something, you know?
Speaker 0: Of children?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. What are some of the age ranges that these fucking bozos have tried to link you to?
Speaker 2: Pretty much as low as it goes and that's like I'm telling you, it's
Speaker 0: like infants, toddlers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Fuck, dude.
Speaker 0: Peoples are so into that shit?
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 0: What the fuck? So are there like when it comes to infants are there like videos, pictures, both? I don't
Speaker 2: I try to stay away from them. Too. Just like I I
Speaker 0: don't do that. Okay. But so where have where have you seen but but you've seen them post infants and toddlers and all that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. I'm just look, man. I know dude, I a 100% know you're not into that stuff. Mhmm. I don't think I'd be here talking to you if you were.
But the reason I wanna ask is because, you know, we've all seen the video of 911 go down. Right? We, you know, we're well
Speaker 2: No. That was, like, 7 or something.
Speaker 0: Yeah. But but we've all, like the the story is that I mean, the the store the the story of that is that planes hit the towers. Now, I mean, Alleged. Right. And then we're not saying anything untrue.
What are
Speaker 2: you talking about? Experienced or whatever?
Speaker 0: Well, no. No. We're we just say alleged because we don't wanna get sued for anything. Well, I mean, I mean, I don't know. I mean, me personally, I don't know how a plane would disappear into a tower.
I mean, I I mean
Speaker 2: He'll he'll be that's a whole another story. My my fault my fault.
Speaker 0: Stay on subject. My fault. I mean seriously, have you seen a play like disappear into a Oh fuck no. Fuck no. Fuck no.
Okay. Whatever. Anyway, that's the story. It's not pleasant to watch though in all seriousness. Right.
Watching watching a car wreck is not pleasant to watch. Mhmm. But we've all seen it. If you see somebody burning down the apartment next to you, you're gonna tell who it is. You you know, you watch an arsonist burn something, it doesn't make you culpable.
So that that's why I'm asking about these videos of infants and toddlers. Do I think that you're in them? Obviously, fucking not. Do I think that you like them? Obviously, fucking not.
But do I think you can also give valuable info to try to find some of these people in them? Shit. I'm not saying you're gonna tell me, like, you know, Chimichan from Thailand is was it I of course, you don't know that. But even if you can narrow down a region of the world or a race, I mean, that eliminates so many people. So that's that's why I'm asking, what typically goes down in these infants and toddler videos?
I hate to ask you really a bit, but you're doing a good thing right now.
Speaker 2: People doing stuff that the kid obviously doesn't even know what's going on. Okay.
Speaker 0: So you so by people, who who do you mean?
Speaker 2: Grown dudes or even women? Yeah.
Speaker 0: So so you see videos
Speaker 2: of what they do
Speaker 0: in your day and things?
Speaker 2: Well, they've people that groom toddlers and, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 0: Okay. So but I'm saying you, like, you see videos of woman doing that shit?
Speaker 2: I have seen because it, like, fits in my ad in a group or something I'm like,
Speaker 0: you know,
Speaker 2: I said, like, I used to take
Speaker 0: or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's that's another reason. You know? But, yeah, that people would add you in a group or something.
Speaker 0: Sure. And I'd be
Speaker 2: in the group for, like, 24 hours or something today.
Speaker 0: Of course. So so what are, like,
Speaker 2: the Yeah. There'd be one person who's, like, in the teens or something. Mhmm. And somebody jumped in there and they'd that kind of stuff.
Speaker 0: The bad apple. Yeah. Yeah. So what's kinda going down in these video? Like like, what if what do you see these asshole women or these, shithead men do to these infants and toddlers?
Like, what what what sex acts have you seen happen to these?
Speaker 2: Force, like, you know, oral or penetration or whatever.
Speaker 0: They do this shit to babies?
Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah. Someone did it there.
Speaker 0: Oh my god. How how long are these videos typically?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Not very long. I think that is usually some of them.
Speaker 0: Oh, dude. I love the scorpions.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 0: Oh, dude. You're the fucking you're the guy that was off screen. I I I had 6 band members. Holy shit. No.
No. I would say there's there's there's no one like you, but, I think there's 6 p 5 people here like you, so that wouldn't that wouldn't work. Only eighties metal heads would get that one. But, you're a classic rock guy. Yeah.
Fucking hell yeah. Who's your favorite band?
Speaker 2: Honestly probably Judas Priest. Okay. Because of their consistency. How many good albums they got and stuff.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. There's not a bad Judas Priest song. Yeah. I'm a nineties guy.
I like Snow Temple Pilots. You heard of them?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: You like them okay?
Speaker 2: They're alright. I'm not as big into the nineties. I mean, I grew up in the nineties. Of course. Feel more like seventies and eighties.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I used to be a big Queen fan.
Yeah. No. This music music just got pretty shit after 2005.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. So how often are these scumbags posting, like, these infants and toddlers?
Speaker 3: Like, is
Speaker 2: it is it Honestly, they probably do it all the time out there. I'm sure.
Speaker 0: But in your experience in the groups you've been in, how how often is it? Like, your is it just as much as the teens or is it like?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say just as much. Okay.
Speaker 0: It's more okay. So kind of like a more rare thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's more, I guess, because even some like I say, you know, somebody who's somebody that's younger doesn't necessarily mean that.
Speaker 0: Right. Right. There's levels to it. Yeah. There's levels to it.
Have these people ever talked about, like, the dark web at all?
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't heard of it, but I don't I don't know anything about that.
Speaker 0: Okay. I see. I see. Gosh. So so Kik, Telegram, those 2 are pretty bad.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was on Kik anymore too much because that seems like it was maybe is it 8, like, 10, 15 years ago or something?
Speaker 0: Sure. Sure. Sure.
Speaker 2: But, yeah, it still exists.
Speaker 0: What's, like, the new one they're all using now?
Speaker 2: Well, the thing with, like, something like what Wicker was or what session is Mhmm. Is you can't just, like, find a random person on there. You got you basically go through Reddit to to find
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 2: Because they have, like, a code you gotta give or something.
Speaker 0: Oh, on sessions? Yeah. Okay. So how does sessions kinda work? Like, what's, like, the layout of that?
Speaker 2: It's like your profile code is, like, a bunch of random numbers and you basically copy and paste it in there. Really? And you'll get, you know, random chats or something. Okay. If you will find the code on there.
Speaker 0: When did you get sessions?
Speaker 2: Probably a year ago.
Speaker 0: Okay. Got it. So are there, like, groups on sessions kinda like on Kik or is it on division? More groups. I know.
More individual stuff. Okay. So what kind of goes down when individuals talk to you on sessions?
Speaker 2: Just general, like, dirty chat and whatever.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yep. Well, I'm gonna let you know, Kevin. Sessions is one that I know pretty well. I know it's new.
It ain't just chat on sessions.
Speaker 2: Oh, so they do, Viv? They do that group somewhere?
Speaker 0: No. No. No. But I'm saying, like, yeah. Sure.
They talk to you and stuff like that. But, you know, I'm trying to get at what pictures are being sent on sessions because I know sessions is telegram on steroids. That's what I've heard from a few people. And 2 people completely unrelated to each other know they didn't know each other. They both told me that Sessions' telegram on steroids.
So, I do believe people have, of course, shouted dirty dirty to you on there.
Speaker 2: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: But, you know, I've I've a very, very, very good feeling. Well, actually, I just know that people are, you know, slinging around picks like no tomorrow in session. Would I be wrong about that?
Speaker 2: No. That's right. Okay.
Speaker 0: So these are,
Speaker 2: so this is like
Speaker 0: in an individual setting these people are doing that?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. So peer to peer?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. Are they sending any boys stuff?
Speaker 2: No. Okay.
Speaker 0: So not queer to queer just peer to peer?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess. Okay.
Speaker 0: Okay. So how often are they just kind of sending you this shit on sessions?
Speaker 2: Will it just be if I get on there and get bored and and chat or something? Okay.
Speaker 0: When's the when's the last time they were chatting you up on there?
Speaker 2: I haven't been on there in about a week.
Speaker 0: Okay. Got it. Okay. So so so is it, like, pretty much anytime you get on there, it's just kind of a bombardment?
Speaker 2: That's what? New pictures? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I suppose.
Speaker 0: Okay. If you had to guess, how many how many pictures per session on sessions? I'm a I'm a little bit of a poet, my nigga. So, how many how many pictures per session on sessions are they kinda sending? 1.
If you had to guess, like, is it like spam, spam, spam? Is it here and there? Like, how does it kinda work?
Speaker 2: It depends on the person. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 0: What's what's the worst you've seen?
Speaker 2: Somebody sending stuff. Mhmm. Somebody that's just on our list. Send all kinds of stuff, I guess. Really?
Yeah.
Speaker 0: So someone just spam you with all budget shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I've sent, you know, pictures of the bag and stuff here
Speaker 0: and there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So where do you get those pictures from percent people?
Speaker 2: Well, from men, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 0: Okay. Have you seen anything with, like, animals and kids?
Speaker 2: No. No.
Speaker 0: No? Okay. It's just been it's a weird way to put it, but it's just been like the human species, it hasn't crossed another line.
Speaker 2: Right. Right. Okay.
Speaker 0: Got it. It's kinda fucked up to put it that way, but it's definitely less fucked up than the other shit. What age range have these idiots sent on sessions?
Speaker 2: Well, I mostly just stuck with, like, 13 to 17 or Okay. 18 to 21.
Speaker 0: Well, that might have been what you sent, but I'm asking what people sent you. Because I care about those people more than you obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I usually if I was running exchange like that, then I would try to keep it the same because I didn't want below that.
Speaker 0: So Mhmm. Well, yeah. I know I I know there's what we want but I also know that people on sessions have no chill. So I'm just asking the lowest someone sent you on sessions. I'm not asking what you want.
I believe that you want a 13 enough. Okay? You don't have to prove that to me. I believe that, man. I'm just asking what's the lowest.
Someone said you want sessions.
Speaker 2: Maybe 10 or 11 or something, I guess.
Speaker 0: 10 or 11. Were these videos, pictures, or
Speaker 2: like pictures and stuff. I don't have any of those stuff that deleted
Speaker 0: You deleted sessions?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: When did you delete sessions?
Speaker 2: I deleted it today. Okay.
Speaker 0: Okay. So when when you when you would send stuff to people, what would you send at all sessions?
Speaker 2: Usually, the kind of stuff like that, you know, on the sale for whatever mostly.
Speaker 0: Okay. Well, no nobody's sending you child porn and then you're not sending your dick back. It's not really how it works. So just come on. What are you sending them at those sessions?
Speaker 2: Well, if I if I was shot I'd usually have warned just to find somebody that I get sex with,
Speaker 0: you
Speaker 2: know, assuming that they're a real girl and, you know, that kind of exchange. But, yeah, sometimes somebody would just want a trade picture. It's like, if if it wasn't a girl, like, a phone check with or something. Mhmm. And, like, I guess that's fine.
You know?
Speaker 0: Yeah. I just kinda pictures. I get it. So okay. So so you sent some nudes of, like, 13 year olds, 14 year olds, other people?
Speaker 2: You know, maybe 15, 16, 17 something.
Speaker 0: Okay. Just news of that age group.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: Any, any megalinks at all? Like, how prevalent is that?
Speaker 2: No. I mean I've heard of that. And that's also something that people have posted stuff on Reddit groups and stuff. They posted mega links on there? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: Can you kinda describe the format of a Megalink?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen one in quite a while. But
Speaker 0: Yeah. Last time you've seen what what kind of what what does it kinda look like? Like, I remember there's, like,
Speaker 2: a red logo, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 0: A red logo? Okay. Yeah, Kevin. I I know that. But, I mean, what is it kind of a what does it show on the mega link is what I'm asking.
Speaker 2: It's like a isn't it like a drop down file? It's like a bunch of picture photos or something?
Speaker 0: Oh, I don't know. You tell me.
Speaker 2: I am really sure it is. Okay.
Speaker 0: That's what it that's what it looks like.
Speaker 2: Not too familiar with it, but yeah.
Speaker 0: How many how many mega links do you think, you've seen, like, clicked on
Speaker 2: or whatever? Probably only, like, a couple. Okay.
Speaker 0: How many photos were on those MEGALINX? Usually, like, an overwhelming amount. Really? Yeah. Ballpark fee?
Speaker 2: Like, a couple 100 or 300.
Speaker 0: Lots? When's the last time you saw one
Speaker 2: of those things?
Speaker 0: FPPN alone. Really? Yeah. Really? Okay.
So when you would send people, this, god. How do I put it? When you would send people, like, these nude photos of younger ladies under 18 or videos, whatever, how would you send them? Like, would you send links as well? Would you, like, put it in I
Speaker 2: never had links. I only used, like, the session map or Reddit chat or stuff like that.
Speaker 0: Okay. So you send a few on Reddit too?
Speaker 2: Yeah. In the DMs, like Sure. I can't really I think you can't even send videos in there than I know unless it is like a link.
Speaker 0: Really?
Speaker 2: There's no such pictures there.
Speaker 0: Got it. What's your Reddit name?
Speaker 2: Well, I've had, like, a ton of different accounts. It's like you get banned and then you
Speaker 0: So you've been banned before? Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you come back. So they slowly just like random. Sometimes they just give you a random one.
Speaker 0: You don't
Speaker 2: have to even choose a name.
Speaker 0: Really? Yeah. Okay. I see. Okay.
But when you when when you send something on a Reddit chat, where is it sent from, though? Like, you know, for example, if here. I'm gonna I'm gonna text you a I'm gonna text you a picture of your door right here. Is that kinda what it looks like in the Reddit chain? Just send them something like that, like a picture just in the chat like that?
Or
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 0: I'll send it
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 0: Got it. Okay. So so where so where are you sending this from? Like, is this, like, at some point was this kind of just on your phone or your computer? Like, how does that kinda work?
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's mostly on my phone.
Speaker 0: Okay. So there's a few stuff saved on your phone you probably shouldn't have saved?
Speaker 2: At one point in time, yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 2: But I was trying to just decide to get rid of it all.
Speaker 0: When did you get rid of it?
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 0: Okay. So you deleted some photos today? Yeah. Okay. About how big was your collection that you got rid of?
Speaker 2: All the stuff for myself and then all
Speaker 0: I'm talking about the underhanded text negative. I'm saying
Speaker 2: I'm saying all in general together, but probably a couple of 100 pictures. But some of it's, you know, maybe the same person or whatever.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Like duplicates.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't all underage either.
Speaker 0: Okay. How many nude pictures or videos of underage do you think you got rid of today?
Speaker 2: Maybe half or 2 thirds of that was probably that I guess.
Speaker 0: Okay. So a couple hundred just nude photos of kids or teens or whatever?
Speaker 2: Maybe a 100, I guess. And I guess.
Speaker 0: Of just people under 18?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know exact number.
Speaker 0: Okay. But just not a shit ton but not a small amount either.
Speaker 2: Right. I guess so.
Speaker 0: Where was the state? Was this like on a gallery or something?
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was.
Speaker 0: Wow. No fucks given.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was pretty, k.
Speaker 0: Do you have, like, an iPhone, Android? Or
Speaker 2: It's a Galaxy.
Speaker 0: You have a Galaxy? Okay. God. I hate to ask you this because I don't want you to feel like I'm a I don't want you to feel like I'm trying to rape you here. What's really bad?
I don't know because I'm still trying to figure out how a plane just disappears into a tower, but whatever. We'll talk about this after. I don't I don't mean I don't mean I don't mean to I don't I don't want you to think I'm raving you here, but some of those photos so we did a scan on your phone. We knew there's some shit on there. There's videos as well too.
Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. We just scanned your phone. Some of these videos I think we were actually tracking for a while, not specifically you, but I mean just we think we know where they're coming from. Okay. Is there a way like, are they still in your trash, you think?
Speaker 2: No. I emptied my trash
Speaker 0: for sure. So Okay. Okay. Got it. Fuck.
Okay. But you didn't, like, do a factory reset or anything?
Speaker 2: No. I didn't do that.
Speaker 0: Okay. Alright. I think we could still, got it. Is is your phone passcode protected?
Speaker 2: No. I don't have a
Speaker 0: You don't even have passcode? No. Damn. The wrong person just found it. I mean, imagine Kevin, imagine someone like autistic down syndrome 20 year old just gets their hands on your phone and just starts, like, going then he comes across that.
And then he just, like but then he's, like, I wanna tell somebody about this. You you there was, like, no precautions taken?
Speaker 2: No. I guess not. Because it's something I catch up to you eventually. I guess.
Speaker 0: Yeah. That's a good point. Goddamn. Was this, like, on a hit was this, like, on a hidden folder or something? 8 newtons.
Okay. So you only wanna
Speaker 2: I just checked it in its own organized folder, I guess.
Speaker 0: Okay. But it was, like, when that folder passcode protected?
Speaker 2: No. I wasn't even sure if I did it when we gathered.
Speaker 0: Okay. Alright.
Speaker 2: Well,
Speaker 0: anything saved on your computer?
Speaker 2: You said me. I don't really use it too much. Okay.
Speaker 0: Mangusta pickles starving. Can you see if Texas Roadhouse is still open?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I gotta get my charger up because my phone's just dead.
Speaker 0: Alright. Yeah. For sure. You wanna use my phone or we'll charge it up pretty fast? You wanna use my phone or No.
I can just Okay. I'll just start Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No problem.
You're okay with it now? Is that right? Yep. Okay. So do you have, like, a girlfriend or anything at all?
Speaker 2: No. Uh-uh. Not. No? Since 2019, 2020.
Speaker 0: Why would happen?
Speaker 2: I've seen her, like, right before, right during, you know, the pandemic and stuff.
Speaker 0: Oh, really? Yeah. She's a
Speaker 2: 19 year old student from over Okay. Lexington. There you go.
Speaker 0: How'd y'all meet? Tinder, actually. Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's cool. But, no, she was, like, one that's really paranoid about going out and making contact and stuff and, like, she's gonna goatee about that. And she was still living at home too. Really?
And she hadn't even told him about me yet and stuff. And so, like, you know, I wanted her to meet my family and stuff. Mhmm. Sure. Sure.
Yeah. We didn't really get to that point. We kinda split it there.
Speaker 0: Got it. Where's your family from?
Speaker 2: Rich Family Co.
Speaker 0: Waco?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Close by.
Speaker 0: There's a Waco, Kentucky? Yeah. Oh, didn't even know. So are you like a sorry. Are you like a country guy?
Are you like a city slicker? Or
Speaker 2: I was grew up country kinda. Okay. Okay. Mostly rural areas.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Wow. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: I see. I see. So do
Speaker 0: you have any, like, kids of your own? Or No.
Speaker 2: No. I don't. No.
Speaker 0: Planning on that one day?
Speaker 2: I've never never really have been interested. I'm sure. I suppose that could always change the future. You never know Yeah. Yeah.
Plans are. But No. It wasn't something I'd like strive for as like a girl
Speaker 0: or anything. Yeah. Yeah. Any like nieces and nephews?
Speaker 2: No. My sister doesn't have kids. I just got, sister, brother, and cousins, I guess.
Speaker 0: Okay. No kids. Kentucky, many say sisters and brothers and cousins are all the same thing.
Speaker 2: Of course that happens anyways. Yeah.
Speaker 0: I know. For sure. Okay. What app primarily would you say has been the most extreme for, I guess, for lack of a better term, child porn in your experience?
Speaker 2: Well, I think, if it was a web, I think red is the center of it probably. Okay. And it branches off to kilogram and session and kick and Wicker and all those types of things.
Speaker 0: So so so Reddit's kind of like the, so it's like it's like That's where they
Speaker 2: yeah. I think that's where they find, like, those those other apps too, you know.
Speaker 0: Okay. So it's like Grand Central Station and then you can take the train to Telegram. You can take the train to That's pretty much the way to put it. Okay. I see.
I see. So how did you become like such a movie buff? Or
Speaker 2: well, you know, when I was growing up, my great grandmother used to have a big VHS collection and stuff. Mhmm. And so there's always something around to watch. My dad was always a big movie guy. So, you know, and
Speaker 0: I just
Speaker 2: when DVDs were still new, I was selected those when it came out and just kinda stuck with physical media. Nice.
Speaker 0: Well, I see some of the best. Well, monopoly game is not right there.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's all garbage stuff. It's all garbage stuff kids.
Speaker 0: Garbage shell kids?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. That's something I've been into since I was 10. They were from the eighties and they brought them back in 2000s.
Speaker 0: Also, that's why you put all your photos of kids on in the trash on your phone. Because you you're a fan of, like, garbage kids. You put them in the garbage on your phone. I I choose you did. Oh, that makes sense.
Oh, okay. I mean, that gives me a bigger peace of mind. Wow. I see. So, They repaired you with
Speaker 2: the Tabaschats Kids.
Speaker 0: Oh, the Garbage Pail Kids? Oh, see. I I've never even heard of them before. That is interesting. Oh, man.
So how so you're actually 30 years old?
Speaker 2: Yeah. 93. God. Every day, dude.
Speaker 0: God, you're you're showing anonymous online, dude. Fucking hard to find. No. You're 31.
Speaker 2: Mhmm. No. I turned 31 in April. Oh, alright.
Speaker 0: Kevin Perkett.
Speaker 2: It says approximate.
Speaker 0: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Has anybody ever accused you of this type of stuff before? No.
Has there ever been anybody, like, in person that's been, like, you know, Kevin did this Kevin did this to me or, you know, Kevin was with my kid and this happened? Anything like that? No. No. Okay.
Have you have you been on the dark web, like, even once or twice?
Speaker 2: No. No.
Speaker 0: Let's see. So all all the shit mostly happens on your phone?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 0: I see. So I guess what prompted you in the first place to download Reddit? And it or I guess how how'd you stumble across this stuff on Reddit?
Speaker 2: Well, originally I just heard that they had like, you know, they get you on there and find if you're interested in something there's like a stuff for it.
Speaker 0: So if
Speaker 2: it's music, if it was this or that, they got, you know, separated from movies, horror movies, you know, whatever. And then they also have, like, the you know, instead of just going to, like, point of it, then they got point on there and stuff, you know, so I see you. I see you. Wow.
Speaker 0: What app would you say the worst is for when people post the infants into all their stuff? Like, what app does that happen almost in your experience?
Speaker 2: It used to be Wicker was really bad for it.
Speaker 0: Wicker was bad for it
Speaker 2: and that's probably why I got something.
Speaker 0: Yeah. No kidding, dude. Were there any other encrypted apps? Like, do you have, like, Viber or anything? Or
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that.
Speaker 0: Oh, no Viber. What about Xyngy or
Speaker 2: No. No. So it's just
Speaker 0: okay. So Wicker was a Wicker was a code too like Telphax sessions is?
Speaker 2: Yeah. You had a username on there but I can't remember how it's been however long. Even before shutdown, it landed to where only preexisting accounts should get on there. There's nobody new to them. Oh, okay.
So it's been like a year and a half or 2 or something.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure.
Where is your phone right now currently?
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's on the charger. Okay.
Speaker 0: Let's see. How long have you had that phone for?
Speaker 2: Let's see. I tried it in. I was still making payments on it. I see it another there. But it's probably been maybe a year, a little over a year actually.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 0: Okay. So with all the crap on your phone, you didn't factory reset it. You just kinda deleted it, then just that'd be the trash.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: Did you put anything new under folks in there?
Speaker 2: No. No?
Speaker 0: Oh, man.
Speaker 2: So have you have
Speaker 0: you had the mega app at one point?
Speaker 2: I had it briefly but I wasn't really a big fan of it. And it was like it was like one of those things kinda like, you know, like Google likes to back up your photos and stuff. Mhmm. And then you got they want you to, like, pay a service or something for it? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Or they do the paid app stuff. Okay. So you I just wasn't really into the random anonymous stuff that much.
It was more like trying to find someone personal to make with or something.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So what was your what was your goal with Ariel here? Like, what what were you I'm not saying today, obviously, we knew that. But, like, what what was, you know, say today, like, happened? What would happen after?
Like, what were you hoping would this would become?
Speaker 2: I don't know if there just whatever how it flowed, I guess.
Speaker 0: Okay. So that so you are hoping for this to be something more than today?
Speaker 2: I suppose. Yeah. I would
Speaker 0: say it would be.
Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 0: Have there been any other, younger ladies under 18 around, like, Ariel's age that have just kind of pursued that longer term relationship with you or pursued, like, a relationship with you?
Speaker 2: No. I never really had anything, like, as far as that goes, like, partners. Long term. Yeah. Usually, like, maybe a month or something.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 2: Talking and usually somebody goes at some point or another. Usually, it goes with most of my interactions.
Speaker 0: Got it.
Speaker 2: Some people go after one day. Some people go after the week. Mhmm. Yeah.
Speaker 0: So when you saw me come out of the car today Mhmm. Because I haven't really had a chance to ask anybody this. When you saw me come out of the car today and just kinda walk up to your car, what were you thinking?
Speaker 2: Oh, the second time? Yeah. Oh, I I was I was like, I think is that the guy from before? I'm pretty sure you recognize that man. I was just like, what?
So I knew it's must have been on setup
Speaker 0: or something. Did you actually go to CBS today yourself? Yeah. You walked into CBS?
Speaker 2: I did and I walked around and looked at the dolls and stuff. And just and then I just never did buy anything or do anything. I just left.
Speaker 0: Oh god.
Speaker 2: You saw it in TVS? Yeah. You had like a black bin or something. Right?
Speaker 0: Yeah. You were actually in CBS? Yeah.
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
Speaker 0: Were you running a hat or anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Any sunglasses? No.
Speaker 0: Did you, like, have your hair back
Speaker 2: at all or not? Like it is my man. How the
Speaker 0: fuck did we miss you?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. The fuck? I'm so I'm sorry.
Speaker 0: Wait. I don't understand. Wait a second. You saw him in there? You saw him in there?
Speaker 2: I believe
Speaker 0: so. I think so. Fuck. We're on the counter area. Did you go to the back of the store?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I won't go in yet.
Speaker 0: God damn it. Okay. So you came into CVS.
Speaker 2: And then I walked around and looked at stuff. Okay. Then I went back to my car.
Speaker 0: Did you then did you drive off and then come like, to okay. So you went to your core
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 0: You went to your core and left. Mhmm.
Speaker 4: But then
Speaker 0: you came back again. Is that when the cops came?
Speaker 2: When I came back the second time? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. So you were actually you went to see CBS, didn't see anything, drove drove off, and then came back again. That's when you saw a cop car.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. Like the I I I guess you kinda figured the cops were with us. It was just a coincidence. When we saw the cop car, we're like, oh my fucking god. Goddamn, dude.
I'm told I'm told I'm how the how the fuck did it yeah. What? Goddamn it, dude. Yeah. I don't know.
Whatever. I'll beat myself up for that later today. Wow. So someone's to ask, What
Speaker 2: color shirt were you wearing? Yeah.
Speaker 0: What color shirt were you wearing?
Speaker 2: This. What the
Speaker 0: fuck? Wow. Your your your couch is really comfortable. That's strange. Do you have, like, any any any friends or guys that you just kinda hang out with or anything or
Speaker 2: I don't have a ton of close friends. I got basically one guy that I'm hanging out with that like, better weekend. Usually, once or so at least.
Speaker 0: Okay. Did you know him, like, from high school or something? Or No.
Speaker 2: He's older than I am. And actually, he moved here from Wisconsin. He was, he used to play in a band with a bunch of my buddies.
Speaker 0: Do you do you play do
Speaker 3: you play music at all?
Speaker 2: No. I don't. But I'm just always into it. Okay. It's like a fan.
I was a supporter and stuff.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. I'd go over
Speaker 2: and hang out with them and go on. We've had similar favorite bands. So There you go. Don't wanna go to concerts. It's not anymore.
Now I use the shutter card, so I don't think
Speaker 0: What's the last concert you went to?
Speaker 2: Probably one of ones which I used to travel pretty far from. Like, I've been to Texas with this before. Where in Texas? Houston. I went and saw there were, like, 30 bands there.
There's all the metal bands that I don't really play on the side of the coast. Sorry. I had to, I've been to Cleveland. I've been to Michigan. But now the last ones, probably Torban Arena.
I saw a couple of bands from late age, early nineties, like Firehouse and Winger. And I saw Gidders Breeze and Queens right there for anniversary tours.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 2: And let's see. I went to I saw the stadium tour a couple of years ago when it finally happened, like, 3 years later after I got the league.
Speaker 0: Nice. Yeah. I'm sorry you had to see my shithole city of Houston but whatever. I guess it was worth it for all the bands. Yeah.
Did you did you drive all the way down to Houston?
Speaker 2: I did actually. Wow. Yeah. And it was a long house. I got a couple of buggies that lived in Western Kentucky.
Speaker 0: Okay. And
Speaker 2: it's like 2 and a half, 3 hours from here.
Speaker 0: Right. Right. Right.
Speaker 2: And I actually went over because it was from then, it was like 15 hours, I think.
Speaker 0: And so my brother is more
Speaker 2: like 17, 18 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of that. And, I went and stayed at the 9th place, then we got up early and left.
They took us all day, and we got there and stayed the night before. And we got up and went to the fiscal. And next early next morning, like, 4 in the morning, something came back. Oh my god, dude. Yeah.
We sat there for a couple of days or something just to hang around with it.
Speaker 0: Good food there though.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 0: Wow. Alright. It's interesting, man. It's interesting. So on Reddit, when you make a new account because this is effort tonight, something that I would wanna get on to kinda infiltrate on your account obviously but, you know, fucking just whatever.
When you make a new account, do you have to have a new email associated with it?
Speaker 2: No. You don't have to.
Speaker 0: No. She used to
Speaker 2: make one. No. You can just keep using the same email address from multiple accounts on there.
Speaker 0: Got it. Well, did your latest account have an email address?
Speaker 2: Yeah. For sure. It's just my
Speaker 0: own. Okay. I wanna see if there's a way we could friend each other on Reddit just so I can kinda just give me a little wink wink to know I'm not as in people. You know what I mean? Uh-huh.
What is, can you can you write down your email address here? And then and then your latest Reddit username if you can because I do wanna make an account friendly there.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 0: You left you too?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 0: Nice man. Me too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ain't nothing different. Like, there's something people tease you about.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Did you get Kevin Lees from?
Speaker 2: Z as a z. Z 28.
Speaker 0: Oh, you've been late for Lee. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Alright.
And, what's your latest, Reddit username? Honestly,
Speaker 2: I don't even remember because I have to go and deleted the app off my phone. Mhmm.
Speaker 0: But, like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I can maybe pull it up
Speaker 0: if you want. Yeah. I'll be more. Yeah. And this tablet here kinda is like what kinda go on with the tablet?
Same apps or something? Or
Speaker 2: No. I don't really use the apps on there. Okay. I don't even remember if I use remember my username and password. I probably just have to make a new one, I guess.
That's what you wanna do.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 2: That's We're just turning off. Taking a second. Okay. Once you texted it. Yeah.
It's not fucking good.
Speaker 0: I texted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It might take a minute. Yeah. Anyways. Alright. I finally got to.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Maybe it okay.
Speaker 2: No. There's, like, kind of
Speaker 0: All those usernames there? Here. Actually, here. Pull up those usernames if you don't mind. Mhmm.
Speaker 2: You're you're I don't know how it got mixed with the screen. What's that?
Speaker 0: Maybe continue here. Maybe, hold on. So I can always just have this for later. Continue with Google maybe, if you don't mind.
Speaker 2: Send it to Google. No. Gmail. What's the matter? I'll use Gmail at
Speaker 0: once. Okay.
Speaker 2: Dude, what the heck? You just had It only did that when I first downloaded the app.
Speaker 0: Maybe try to log in. Okay. Continue. Oh, maybe just if you don't mind, maybe you start downloading the app again.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 0: God, you got a fucking shit ton of names on there.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm sure I'll give a plug in when I still want me to sell. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Here we go.
I'm not gonna know any of the sun ends if it was just always on matching around.
Speaker 0: Here we go. Okay. Yeah. May I hang on to it for a sec? Sec?
K. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Some of those are probably older names, guys. Like, once I got ran the first time, I was trying to just kept getting all that back on there. It's like a whatever.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Okay. So what does bandicoot mean?
Speaker 2: Just crash bandicoot.
Speaker 0: What the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 2: Oh, PlayStation tracker.
Speaker 0: Oh, perverted bandicoot, band the stick and balls, curvy older guy, here here for team pussy. Yeah. Just round chill like that. Okay. Alright.
That is great. Alright. Bet. I have all those saved. I'll text you if you don't mind.
I'll text you if you don't mind, like, which, which names maybe we can try to use and I
Speaker 2: don't know. Kinda go at
Speaker 0: this together. Find these sick fucks.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 0: Do you ever have any water?
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you don't mind. Oh.
Speaker 0: Thanks, dude. I'm sleepy, man. Just my freaking onto the gym's name, bro. I did some mildly heavy squats, and I'm just out of it. So I'm just curious.
Mhmm. What do you think about 911?
Speaker 2: What do I think about? I try not to think about it, I guess. I don't know. It's something I never forget. I never been in that much trouble.
Speaker 0: No. No. I mean, do do you think it was like an inside job or do you think it was exactly how I said it was? I'm not gonna judge you for any answer.
Speaker 2: I have no idea because, I mean, they don't tell the people what they want the people to know.
Speaker 0: No. A 100%. So And they could come out and
Speaker 2: and say they did it, but then they would feel, oh, it's just a distraction
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. No. So okay. $1,000,000 on the line theoretically.
And if you get this answer right, you win $1,000,000 theoretically. Mhmm. Okay. Is the official narrative of 911 the a 100 the 100% truth? Yes or no?
Speaker 2: A 100%. I have no idea of of ever knowing that. I don't think anybody except for
Speaker 0: the letter
Speaker 2: would know.
Speaker 0: Well, yes. But what is your plan? Probably not. Probably not. Okay.
What do you think they lied about?
Speaker 2: Maybe some 100 details at least. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 0: I personally think it's weird that, you know, the Pentagon is the most secure, basically building in the world, and they can't get any good footage of just a plane hitting the Pentagon. It's just it's really slow. Like, it looks like a stop stop motion film. Like, it looks like claymation missing missing a bunch of things. That's the best they have.
And he did But, Chasifile was a
Speaker 2: plane that's driving pretty fast.
Speaker 0: Well, sure. But I mean, I mean, you had alleged VHS recordings of the plane just crashing into the twin towers like nothing. But on the Pentagon, the most secure building in the world, there's just no there's just no actual, like, there's just no actual just, like, regular footage. It's just, like, very local. It just and then another thing that really got me fucked up is, you know, they they found the passport of one of the terrorists, Mohammed Arabs, completely I mean, we saw how big the explosion were just completely intact.
The passport was completely fine. It's found in the rubble. But yet nobody else's passport was, oh, but the terrorist passport is coincidentally found. And another thing that's weird to me is, okay. So I don't know.
You haven't been to Somerset, Pennsylvania, have you?
Speaker 2: No. I've been to Somerset, Kentucky. No. Pennsylvania.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Well, Somerset, Pennsylvania, Kentucky are pretty much the same place. Just the accents are a little bit different. But same type of, like, you know, rural small town, just kinda conservative a little bit. And so, you know, the phone service Somerset, Kentucky is the best.
I'm sure as you know. The phone service Somerset PA is even worse because, you know, Somerset, Kentucky, you know, some rolling hills and and shit. Somerset, PA is mountains. And, you're telling me in 2002 and this wasn't even in Somerset. This the Somerset was the closest town to Shanksville, PA.
You're telling me that people in 2002 were able to make cell phone calls from a plane in Shanks over Shanksville, Pennsylvania. So just think, you know Rochester, Kentucky?
Speaker 2: No. I've heard of the one in New York. Right.
Speaker 0: Right. Well, just think of the most bummed fuck town in Kentucky you can think of. That's Shanksville, PA where you have no signal or on the ground in 2024. But you're told me in an airplane, they can make cell phone calls to their loved ones like this. And the really fucking crazy part is, like, there's no actual back and forth phone calls between somebody on the plane and somebody on the ground.
Like, you don't really fall on the ground. It's always just voice mails. You're telling me out of all the phone calls that were made, not a single person on the ground picked up. We don't have the conversation back and forth. We only have, hey, it's me.
I love you. This is happening. I just don't believe it.
Speaker 2: I
Speaker 0: mean, I can go to Shanksville PA right now and have no phone service.
Speaker 2: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: I mean, much less of a plane in 2002. Because, you know, even when driving from Houston to San Antonio, in 2017, even in the middle of those two cities, both very big cities, there's no phone there was I mean, there is now but there's no phone service in 2017 in between those. So that doesn't make any sense. I think those calls were personally staged. That just doesn't make any type of sense to me, man.
Oh, god. It's just it's just, it's a shit show. I mean, they lied to us. They lied to us, I think. You you know Alex Jones.
Is it right?
Speaker 2: No. I mean, name sounds familiar but
Speaker 0: Right. He's the guy who says the frogs will turn gay because of Astra's in the water.
Speaker 2: So they pull social figures?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's all the big stuff.
Speaker 0: No. No. That that that's, you know, I used to think people will lose that dinner, but that's actually a good thing because they're all the same. But what I would show is that I don't mean to like him. That's my boy.
But, you know, politicians are all the same. They're all the same. But, yeah, I know that. Brainwashing Yeah. 100%.
100%. But that's kind of that's kind of my thing. Paul was talking with the DoorDash driver right now. We're delivering the food.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Probably.
Speaker 0: Yeah. No. He he told he he told me. Yeah. Yeah.
So And he get ranch? Yeah. He got the Cajun sauce. That was fun. Yeah.
But yeah, man. So that that's that's kinda my thing. I mean, are there any are there any alleged I mean, I think the conspiracy theory of 911. I I think it's a conspiracy theory for people actually believe what the government said. I mean, you're telling me that people who just couldn't even, allegedly couldn't even drive, fly a Cessna just magically get on a, on a on a 747 and and are able to just know where the Empire State Building is.
I mean I mean, how do you mean you gotta have some pretty insane navigation skills to take a plane off course and just know exactly where building is. And, you know, that that's the crazy part too. You know, these terrorists who have never flown a plane before that where there's that big. It's not like they just missed the twin like, it would be more believable even if they just missed the twin towers one time. Which, oh, we but, you know, we didn't really quite hit it yet.
Now we're
Speaker 3: gonna turn around and try again. But
Speaker 0: they just knew the timing. They just knew everything. I mean, it's goddamn. I mean, just imagine the first time you played basketball, you insulated a half court shot. That's what that's the equivalent of how accurate they were.
So, for all those reasons, I don't believe that if anybody wants to refute me or poke holes in my logic, they can try, but I just don't think they can. You know what I mean? I'm very I'm I'm very compelled that the government lied to us. So, you know, did you get the COVID vaccine?
Speaker 2: No. I didn't.
Speaker 0: Here you go. There you go. Good.
Speaker 2: I did. Well, I don't get flu shots and it's not a a political stance or nothing like that for many. It's just that
Speaker 0: It's a waste of time.
Speaker 2: Well, I just I just felt like I had to deal with my natural immunity stuff. Right. There was all that pressure to oh, you need to get the shot. Sure. It was never, like, required in my work.
Right. Right. Places like hospital or something
Speaker 0: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's a little different. We're working around, I guess, a lot of people.
Speaker 0: For sure. For sure. Oh my god, dude. 9:11 might be the might be the move to just that might be the move. Where's your photo right now?
Speaker 2: Like, no. It's like you said that.
Speaker 0: Dude, what's up with the DoorDash driver, bro? 2nd Paulo's cock.
Speaker 2: Speaking of what's happening back.
Speaker 0: What's up? Enjoy your head?
Speaker 4: Oh, how's it going, sir? How are you all? Hi.
Speaker 0: Basically, we're just having a conversation here with Kevin. And, basically, there is just some internet stuff that happened yesterday or earlier today. And these idiots were sending you a child porn to that phone. Right? Just willy nilly just sending you that shit,
Speaker 2: In the past. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. But you said you got rid of all the child porn there today. Right? Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't have any of that. So you had team stuff from that. But, yeah, I deleted all photographs. I didn't want any part of none of that stuff. Okay.
Speaker 0: But basically, like, you know, new teams, like, 13 and not be deleted on there? On here? Mhmm. Okay. So there's, like, new teens and, like, you know, 13 year old on your gallery, but you actually got rid of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 4: Kevin? Kevin. Right? Kevin, these guys have permission to be in your residence?
Speaker 2: Well, they knocked on my door and Okay.
Speaker 4: But you're still good with them being here?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they're they're here now. So Okay.
Speaker 4: Do you mind stepping up top desk real quick?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: Do you want that I mean, I'm not saying you have
Speaker 0: to leave them alone or a bit. I mean, it's up to you, big dog.
Speaker 2: What I'll do? Oh, I think he wants to see you go. I mean, I don't know. Shoes on or what?
Speaker 0: Well, that's up to you. I mean, I like to I like to free feed myself, but that's totally your decision.
Speaker 4: You say you guys have information or something? Do you wanna talk to
Speaker 0: one of our officers? Whichever one he has information, come talk to me.
Speaker 4: Kevin, may we come in instead? Would that be easier?
Speaker 0: That would probably be.
Speaker 2: I suppose. Is that
Speaker 4: okay if we
Speaker 0: can chat? Yeah. Okay. Well, whoever else come out and talk to officer Coleman. Yeah.
I guess I'll go ahead and talk. Alright.
Speaker 2: Sure. You're not stuck on this one. Okay. It's a general
Speaker 0: No. No. Yeah. Yeah. What's your name?
Speaker 4: Kevin was messing. We're just
Speaker 0: gonna kinda separate real quick and collect what we have have so far and Yeah. Today figure
Speaker 2: out how to move forward.
Speaker 0: The best. I'll be right with you today.
Speaker 4: If you don't mind, just give us your phone as a real No.
Speaker 0: At CVS on the hook at 3. He drove off for he'd say a word to him, but, we found him here at his address. And, you know, we'd gone through the door. You know? He let us see.
Yeah. Yeah. Over the course of our conversation with Clifford into possessing child pornography, honestly, what he's speaking I mean, obviously, after he was the Walgreens or the CBS, he deleted it all, but he didn't, like, factor reset or, like, do anything like that. He just did a soft delete, so it's easily recoverable. That's why I made sure to say in front of the cops or in front of you guys that he had it on his phone.
So, you know, hopefully, he has probable cause to go take his phone. And, yeah, he said he's traded child porn. He's received child porn. He said he's viewed videos here in the Infants and Toddlers, getting raped, and he admitted to wanting to meet up with his 13 year old girl for sex today. And, you know, we understand in Kentucky that, for it to be like enticement or solicitation minor, it has to be a law enforcement officer or a real kid on the other end.
So that's what I like. You'll see in most of the interview when we send it that we really ask him for the child porn because we have multiple people in Kentucky arrested just based on child pornography. So, yeah. That's that's what we think. He can be arrested for I mean, arrested for when he held up his phone and get a warrant for it.
He confessed and went into detail about a lot of stuff. And he also handed over his usernames on Reddit. One of them was, like, here for team Odyssey verbatim. So he's, yeah, he's definitely in the underage for sure. Okay.
Yeah. Maybe he lives in, like, some house or something or, like, a room or something.
Speaker 2: Well, there's some new
Speaker 4: houses that have a problem. Above them. Oh, okay.
Speaker 0: Okay. What's up, guys? So right now, they're taking all of the devices. I don't think an arrest is gonna happen tonight. But I think by the time this video drops, it should have arrested in the title.
So Kentucky is kind of like Ohio and the fact that, our our decoy chance can't necessarily be used. Since we're not cops or a real kid, obviously. So, we have to go another route in Kentucky, which is with the, images on their devices. So, I think he's gonna get arrested on that, no doubt, based on what he admitted to. So, so yeah.
So this may be like a 2 hour cash or 1 half hour. I don't know how long it was. But we spent hours and hours and hours looking for this guy. So we had him driving off on us twice and, you know, this guy never gave his real name. Well, he said that his name was Kev, but he never gave, like, his full name.
Like, he wasn't just like, oh, he's this and this. Like, we had to do everything. We had to find him. You know, the guy who's holding the camera, he actually found his apartment based on the tiles on the from the video call, and we matched it up to this. And he set a general location, like, he dropped that.
He's at this pizza place, which is pretty close to these apartments. Yeah. We kinda zeroed in a location. And then we zeroed in an apartment based on the tiles on the video call. So oh, man.
It was definitely a hours looking for this dude. But I'm glad we found him. And I'm glad Richmond is gonna be a little bit safer now. So if you wanna join locals and be a part of the reason we could travel nationwide, travel most catch the sickest, join in the pinned comment or press that red join button if you're on Rumble. Bye.
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Video Transcript AI Summary
In this video transcript, two individuals, Speaker 0 and Speaker 1, engage in a conversation addressing Speaker 1's involvement in inappropriate activities. Speaker 0 confronts Speaker 1 about his use of the Telegram app for sharing illegal content and his interest in the dark web. Speaker 0 emphasizes the importance of seeking help and rehabilitation, urging Speaker 1 to be honest and transparent. They express a desire to identify individuals responsible for a video involving a young boy. The conversation revolves around supporting Speaker 1 in seeking therapy and addressing his disorder. Additionally, the video features a predator caught by a group called Predator Poachers, who admits to having an interest in incest and pedophilic disorder. The group provides evidence of his intentions and the presence of child pornography on his phone. The police are called, and an arrest is expected to happen soon. The video encourages viewers to watch the first part on a different platform for more details.
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Speaker 0: Here we sent to Haley. I had all my dirty pictures in a special place that nobody can get to. Software programmers could probably find it, but I've got all that worked out too. I've been studying how to do that for years. I love dirty pictures.
So I'm willing to
Speaker 1: You're so vicious.
Speaker 0: What? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: Well, I'm willing to work. You're not do you're not doing anything. You're trying to you're trying to destroy people. No. You're destroying me.
Speaker 0: I I think your ride's over there.
Speaker 1: Have me arrested.
Speaker 0: Me? No. I'm not gonna arrest you.
Speaker 1: What's what's gonna happen? Come on. Let me get over this.
Speaker 0: So when they talk to us, I'll just be sure to, like, be in your corner. Okay? Sound good?
Speaker 1: Sound good?
Speaker 2: If you wanna support the predator poachers catching the sickest both near and far, go to the pinned comment. If you're on Rumble, press the red join button to see over 30 videos early and uncensored for only $8 a month. We can't do this without your help, so join our locals. And,
Speaker 0: I mean, if he if he I mean, if he produces an address, then I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Yep. Right.
Speaker 0: But or I'm about to go live.
Speaker 3: K.
Speaker 1: Alright. Bye.
Speaker 3: Don't say who it is. Mhmm.
Speaker 0: Yep. And it's Philip Sharp in the wild there. Kinda looks like Jamie
Speaker 1: from nowhere.
Speaker 0: He does. Somehow somehow like a more just unhinged crazy version. Well, Jamie wasn't that unhinged. He was just on Tuesday. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Philip is definitely not, but alright. Dude, he's legit doing it, bro. He's not expecting this.
I was not expecting it either. Well, I kinda was, but I'm just kinda shocked it's happening. I mean, we would've been here all day. I wasn't expecting it, but
Speaker 1: Bruh.
Speaker 0: Dude, this is nuts. Like, this is When we, when we first arrived, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stay in the car for, like, 3 minutes, hang on a ride. Because if I sit here now, people are gonna complain. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Maybe, you know, maybe just, since since I want you out of the car, maybe just go just live out. Right? Just fucking just do it without the RTMP. I'm sure.
Yeah. Alright, guys. So we have this live catch coming up. We see that we see the guy that we're getting right now. The only catch is we're not getting him right now.
He's taking an Uber to a county that we think is going to arrest that we we bought the Uber already. We're not doing the undercover thing and he's not that dumb. He's taking an Uber to a county we think is gonna arrest and here's the other cash. I mean, we're we're looking at him right now. I'm not gonna flip the camera, though.
He we're he's taking an Uber to to a county that I think is gonna arrest, and here's the catch, we've caught this guy before, and we're we're making sure we do this in a place that we think is getting a rest. And this guy has, let's just say he's more loaded this time than last time. That's all I'm gonna say. You don't wanna miss this one. I'm not doing any promo codes.
No discounts. This is $8 is cheap for this. Well, in general, it is. But, you know, whatever. Especially for this.
So this cash is gonna be all locals. We have caught this guy before. And this guy had one of the most insane this guy is one of the most insane guys you ever caught, when it comes to just crazy reactions. So I'm not gonna say who it is. If you were on Locals, or the Rumble streams you have a hint of I've kind of given hints the past couple days.
This is not the guy this is not the daddy daughter catch, I'll say that. But this is a guy I've said that if you know, you know. That's all I can say. So join up on locals. Alright.
Press that red join button. Mods, please link it. Tingi's linking it. Local's only $8. We have 70 catches early and uncensored.
He's currently waiting on his Uber right now as we speak. I mean, Frere is just filming him waiting on the Uber right now. It's not Dave. It's not Dave. We've caught this guy before.
Alright? And, no, this cache is gonna be on locals. So join up. It's very cheap. We have 70 catches early and uncensored on there.
Most live catches are on locals. This guy we've caught before, he's cuckoo. This will be interesting, I think. APP is linking it. Oh, his ride's here.
His ride's here. Uh-oh. Is it Ashley? Yeah. It's his ride.
That's his he's gotta get the car. He's gotta get the car. Alright. I'm I'm gonna flip it for this. You have a good shot?
Alfredo? Yeah. Oh my god. Okay. Wait.
Hold on. You didn't tell me wait. Is it the place where you're staying? We stand. Yeah.
This guy is getting his Uber right now. We're we're gonna let it go around the corner then follow them. Oh, I hope it doesn't come this way though. If it doesn't, I'm definitely gonna recline my seat. Is it this 1?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Just take the quickest way there. If you gotta do tools, it's fine. Alright. His What's this, Victor? Alright, guys.
His car just the car had figured out. Him up. He just pulled up. Pulled out. We're following them.
And, so we're gonna be live on Locals in about 35 minutes, 35 to 40 minutes. It's a pretty far drive that we're taking him. I don't care. You know, we we spent $30 on this Lyft ride. It's nothing compared to, I think, what is gonna happen to this dude, I hope.
So if you wanna help us travel the most, catch the sickest, locals only $8. That is the car right there that we're following. Very cheap. We are gonna be live on locals in about 35 minutes. That's just when we're gonna be at the place.
We're just following that car. So go to that link. It's only $8. We might raise the price time this month. So join up.
Lock in at 8. It's very cheap very cheap especially for all the updates you'll get. The content with people on locals know. So join up. You don't wanna miss this catch.
We're catching this guy for the second time and hit and this is one of the most cuckoo predators we've ever caught and one of the sickest too. He's bad. Alright. Join that, y'all. Join that.
I'm gonna end the stream in probably 5 minutes. I shall do not wanna miss that. I I all I can say is y'all just don't wanna miss this one. And then the cool part is too, the cool the cool part is too that we, that this guy's first catch is on locals only. So so you'll be able to see both catches when you join up.
I'm 99% sure this catch is going down. If he's in the Uber, we're following the Uber right now. So Should I fall on her side just a bit quicker? Quicker for sure. Something to do in
Speaker 1: there? Yeah. And I
Speaker 0: don't know if his drivers have noticed her about, like Oh, yeah. Okay, guys. We're gonna be live on locals in about So now seeing a chauffeur?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: That's our boy in the car.
Speaker 1: Oh, kaboom.
Speaker 0: You're shaking a toll Mhmm. Bed. Yes. Yes. This is this is a meet up.
Yes. It is a meet up.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: Hello. Hello. Hello. Let me let me know when he gets out of the car. I was off.
I'm not not keeping he's getting out. No. No. I'm telling you. He's about to go.
She getting out?
Speaker 1: Yeah. But
Speaker 0: we're gonna wait till the driver Yeah. Yeah. We're ready till the driver goes out.
Speaker 1: Look at him.
Speaker 0: Bro. God, I feel like I'm missing so many good men's right now. We'll see the footage.
Speaker 1: Right or left?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Where's that right there? Oh my god. Yeah. I couldn't kinda walk towards the room.
Oh, shit. Oh, it's locked. Oh, fuck. I think it's a good spot. He doesn't know the room's running back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 0: I'll just do it. Let's see what he's doing. Did you put the mic behind
Speaker 2: your neck?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 0: It's actually right here.
Speaker 1: Put it a
Speaker 0: little bit more down.
Speaker 1: This way? Yeah.
Speaker 0: Right here again? Yep. Alright. Let's do it. Just smaller or you're down?
Yeah. Just just come out, like, 2 seconds after me here. Cut the car off. Hey, Philip.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir. How's it going?
Speaker 0: Got a message here. Alright? Okay. Did you kinda wanna go talk over there? I don't want anybody to kinda hear us or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Okay. I think, we've gone through all this before. Correct?
Speaker 0: Were there other things talked about too? Mhmm. Okay. Nothing that could have been, like, sexual or anything? Okay.
It was mentioned here that she says you don't want 9 to 12. And you said, actually, yes. I do, but I try to keep that quiet. So how how often is the thought of, like, a 9 to 12 kind of in your mind? Correct.
But I'm sorry about last time. I just kinda wanna get get some help and, you know, get you on your way because Haley is waiting. Okay? I just wanna kinda talk about some things and then we'll be
Speaker 1: And you wanna let me go?
Speaker 0: I have no intention of screwing you over, man. I just think you're a good dude. Alright? Sorry about last time. Kinda know everything's for your safety, and I'm not gonna hurt you or I'm not gonna scream at you like last time or anything like that.
How are you doing today, man? Yeah? No. What's up? We're you're good, Ben.
You're good. I did I did some more kinda, like, research on you. I know you're not a bad person or anything like that. Alright? I know you're good to everybody.
Speaker 1: We'll just
Speaker 0: go by those bushes over there
Speaker 1: if you don't mind. Okay? Would you
Speaker 0: mind the bushes over there? Just kinda in the shade. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How's the new place you're living at? How's the new place you're living at? Is there any way you can help me get home?
Speaker 0: I'm willing to do that.
Speaker 1: I have no money to get home.
Speaker 0: Okay. Yeah. I'll I'll help you out with everything. That's fine.
Speaker 1: Okay. I'll, I'll submit to what do they have to take, pictures like this? Well, we're
Speaker 0: on public property, and I just want you to be assured. Because, you know, last time you had a knife out, I just kinda do you have a knife on you this time?
Speaker 1: No, sir.
Speaker 0: Okay. I just want everybody to be safe here.
Speaker 1: You did a good job of, concealing all this Mhmm. As usual.
Speaker 0: Sure. Well, you know, I'm I'm willing to I'm willing to do you a solid.
Speaker 1: What what are we gonna do?
Speaker 0: I kinda well, first, let's go in the shade and just it's it's all voluntary, but let's go in
Speaker 1: the shade and just kind of, like,
Speaker 0: talk it out and, you know, I'm willing to help you out, man. That's cool.
Speaker 1: I like it. Well, I'm
Speaker 0: willing to do you some solids, bro. That's all. So, when when are you moving into the new place, you think?
Speaker 1: Sir? When are
Speaker 0: you moving into the new place?
Speaker 1: Couple of weeks.
Speaker 0: Alright. Is it better than the old one you were living at or worse or I don't know. Got you. Hopefully better than the
Speaker 1: one you're at now. K.
Speaker 0: Alright. Alright. Alright. Is ride over here okay?
Speaker 1: K.
Speaker 0: Alright. Here's good. And if anybody comes out and asks what's going on, I'm completely willing to move and change the subject in front of them. Like, I'm not trying to have anybody over here we're talking about. Does that sound cool?
Sound like a deal? Cool.
Speaker 1: Yes. I had pedophilic disorder. I have what's called pedophilic disorder.
Speaker 0: For sure.
Speaker 1: The doctor knows about it.
Speaker 0: Mhmm.
Speaker 1: And I she said there's therapy for that.
Speaker 0: And that and that's kind of the route I wanna go more this time. I kinda wanna just talk it out and just go the route of health because, you know, I I know you're somebody that needs therapy, and I think you're somebody that can overcome. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: Are are you just kinda willing to be honest with me about everything today?
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 0: Okay. Do you know why I'd be here talking to you? We'll start with that. Sir? Do you know why I'm I'd be talking to you right now?
Speaker 1: Yes. Because you're, after predators.
Speaker 0: Sure. But do you know why I'm in war? We're in this situation right now? Like, why am I specifically here right now? Why do you think You're
Speaker 1: here to catch me.
Speaker 0: Sure. But what was supposed to be kind of, like, what was the what was the plan about coming here? Like, that's what I'm asking. I just wanna see how honest we're being. That's all.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm just an I just have a a pedophilic disorder and, the doctor knows about it and Okay. It's just
Speaker 0: when,
Speaker 1: somebody does a good job like you Mhmm. Fooling people, it's easy for me to fall into the trap.
Speaker 0: Okay. Do you think maybe the peeling disorder got a little bit carried away today?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: Okay. Got it. Where were you supposed to go? Like, is there a certain room you're supposed to be at? Or
Speaker 1: No. Did
Speaker 0: she give you a room number?
Speaker 1: 310.
Speaker 0: 310? Okay. Hey, Philip, bro. I'm not mad at you, bro. Just oops.
Sorry.
Speaker 1: I was
Speaker 0: just gonna put it. Just
Speaker 1: I'm alright. Touch me.
Speaker 0: That's fine. That's fine.
Speaker 1: This is
Speaker 0: yeah. I'm not Philip, you understand? I'm not mad at you. I just wanna kinda overcome it and help you help you with this. Okay?
Because in the end, the best route for both of us is just making sure that we get help for you. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
Speaker 0: Okay. Cool. That's fine. Okay. Who's supposed to be in 3:10?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 0: Who is supposed to be in 3:10? Hailey. Okay. How old is Hailey? 13.
Alright. I appreciate your honesty. And when someone like you is honest, it tells me that you actually can get help for this. You know what I mean? It actually in my book in my book, it's definitely better, so I appreciate it, man.
What's in that I'm not gonna ask to search him, but what's in that bag? Condos. And anything else? What about lubricant?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: So what was and, again, I'm not mad at you if he's asking. What's kinda supposed to happen in the hotel room?
Speaker 1: You know, I, I don't know why I should be talking to you without
Speaker 0: I totally understand.
Speaker 1: But have all that on file, everything that, was said. Sure. So I'm not gonna say anything else.
Speaker 0: Well, Philip, you understand when we're more honest about everything. I'm more because I didn't have to come here and talk to you. You know that. Right? I could have just, you know, taken everything that we had, go another route.
But you're someone who looks in desperate need of actually getting help. And I think you actually wanna get help. Is there anything in your pockets? No? Good.
No. Okay. So it's not about this isn't about, like, me trying to crap on you or this or that because you're right. I do have everything. But, you know, when I see someone who's honest because everybody's everybody makes mistakes and gets carried away in life.
Like, I have an eating disorder and you'll probably find me at the buffet pretty often, which I shouldn't be. Right? So it it's not about whether you made a mistake or not or whether you're this or that. It doesn't matter. It's how we overcome it.
And if you're willing to show me that you're gonna that you're able to overcome it, then, hey. I'm totally fine with that. Okay? Because like I said, I'm willing to work with you on this. Just kinda work with me back.
Alright? I'm I'm willing to forget about the first time. Okay? I understand that people can get off on the wrong foot, but, hey, we're here now. I'm not screaming what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know, I have to Tell me what's gonna what's gonna happen. That's good to know.
Speaker 0: Okay. Well, what basically the best possible thing is we're honest and transparent with each other and then from there, we go over some help options and I'm cool with that, man.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. So, what was kinda supposed to go down in the hotel room? Sorry?
Speaker 1: What was
Speaker 0: kinda supposed to go down in the hotel room?
Speaker 1: You had it all there. I'm not gonna repeat it.
Speaker 0: Okay. So would I be wrong if I said it was like sexual stuff?
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. That's kinda what
Speaker 0: was the deal was? Okay. So, kind of why I'm here talking to you, Philip, is because you're right. I do have the chats. But, you know, sexual stuff, that's a lot of things.
Right? It could be as far as like, you know, just a little bit of,
Speaker 1: you know,
Speaker 0: it could be just a blow job. Right? Or it could be all the way to, like, you know, rape and torture. You know what I mean? You know how that scale of things.
So the reason why I'm asking you what's supposed to happen is because I wanna know, like, was it gonna be consensual or forced? Because that's that's a big thing to me.
Speaker 1: Certainly. No, sir. It was supposed to be consensual.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: So have all that here.
Speaker 0: Right. So I wanted to see I wanted to see if you were serious about it being consensual because that that's a big thing to me. Because if if we're forcing stuff, then I don't think we can get help. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I I I told the I told you, I guess, that, I'm not into any kind of pain or Okay. Seeing anybody doing things.
Speaker 0: Oh, I appreciate that, man. Okay. So you would only have sex today if Hailey was willing and like, okay with it pretty much. Is that right?
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 0: Okay. Well, I appreciate that. And that's and that's something I think we can actually help. So I'm I'm totally fine with that, man. Okay.
And you know what?
Speaker 1: I have
Speaker 0: a lot of shit right here. I don't even feel the need to read it. You've been so transparent with me. Why should I embarrass you? It doesn't make any sense.
Right? It's about it's about rehabilitating. Would you agree?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: Okay. Here. You want me you wanted me to have them hold in?
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 0: Alright. Let's do that. And I have no intention of bringing that back. I mean, if we veer off into some dishonesty, I don't know, I might have to, but I think you're willing to be honest and I'm willing to be honest with you. So we'll just talk man to man.
We don't need any of that shit. Okay. Sound sound like a plan?
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 0: Alright. Let's do it. So what are some of the things like, so if I have an eating disorder. Right? Nobody should be waving fucking a steak in my face.
That'd probably be not that that wouldn't be too helpful for me. Wouldn't you say? What are some of the things that you think kind of exasperate or kinda feel with disorder? I have no idea. Okay.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's always been me.
Speaker 0: Since you were a kid? Okay.
Speaker 1: I was abused when I was 6. Maybe it comes from that.
Speaker 0: Okay. That's fair. Did you think you had it before you were sick? Well, I guess you wouldn't know if you're that young. Okay.
Got it.
Speaker 1: Do you
Speaker 0: have flashbacks of that abuse? No. No? Okay. But you think maybe that just kind of ingrained it in you maybe?
Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Have you tried to get help for this before? Yes.
K. It's not with that. Like, you can just step on it. You can just step on it. Step on it.
Yeah. Just step on the papers.
Speaker 1: Yes. My mental health counselors know about it, and it's just really nice. The last one I saw, I said, well, I didn't think there was any treatment for that. And she said, there's therapy.
Speaker 0: Do you think the therapy has been helping? Or have you gone to therapy yet? Or No. Not yet. I have not had any.
Okay. Does the city of Austin give you, like, options to pay for it and all that? Or, like, do they do they give you options where they pay for it or anything like that?
Speaker 1: Or It's, it's paid for all my insurance.
Speaker 0: Okay. Do you know how to access that therapy?
Speaker 1: I have a meeting with her in February. I should
Speaker 0: have had one in February. Oh, you you didn't end up going?
Speaker 1: Uh-uh. Well, I I never got she never called me or made an appointment.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: I usually don't see her until I get new meds.
Speaker 0: Do you do you have her name? Because maybe I can kinda ping her and be like, I'll remember. Just what's her name?
Speaker 1: Her name is Christine Kessel.
Speaker 0: Okay. K e s s e l?
Speaker 1: Right. At Bluebonnet Trails.
Speaker 0: Okay. So get in touch with Christy and basically say, hey, Philip is wanting help for this and okay. I'm willing to do that. No problem, man. So I wanna ask about some things because, you know, you know, it's not my first time doing something like this.
And some of the things that I've heard from people that desperately want help is that stuff online kind of exasperate the disorder. Like I know. I understand. Okay. So I wanna ask about the Telegram app.
Can you I don't know too much about it. Can you kinda tell me what goes on on there? I've heard some things, but It's
Speaker 1: it's there's some some illegal, bad news on it.
Speaker 0: Okay. Like trafficking or are you talking about, like, pictures?
Speaker 1: All that.
Speaker 0: Oh, everything like that on there? Okay. Do you are there are these, like, groups on Telegram or is this just oh, there's groups of this stuff? Okay. Do you happen to know because, you know, obviously, I wanna find the real bad guys doing this.
I don't think you're one of the bad guys. But, you know, people on Telegram, they look at forced stuff, and they like to just they are they're actually malicious. You know what I mean? They're not suffering from a disorder. They're actually bad people.
Not like you. Do you know how you got invited to these groups? Like, because maybe I I wanna take that round and try to find who created them. You know what I mean? And I think if you help me with that, that'd be a giant help to us, and it would show me that you're actually honest and willing to do this, which I think you are.
Speaker 1: It's pretty, it's pretty obvious when you get on there.
Speaker 0: Okay. So what kinda happens, if you don't mind?
Speaker 1: There are different rooms to chat in.
Speaker 0: Okay. How many people could be in one room at a time? 3 or 4. Okay. Are they all just sharing child porn pretty much?
Speaker 1: No. Okay. Just, there's there's no mention of any illegal porn at all.
Speaker 0: Okay. So when Nothing like that. On Telegram?
Speaker 1: Correct. But but it's it, it comes to the surface
Speaker 0: Oh, so once in a
Speaker 1: with a the word CP.
Speaker 0: Oh, okay. Okay.
Speaker 1: But, of course, it's been denied everywhere on Telegram.
Speaker 0: Sure. Sure. So, you know, Philip, you know, we've been very honest past few, you know, since we've been here, and I appreciate that. But, you know, the account that was the father with the 2 kids, that was me posing as that. I wasn't posing as Haley, but I was posing as a father of 2 kids.
And, you know, I know what you sent me. Okay? So I know there's stuff on Telegram, that kind of child porn stuff flowing around, and that's okay. Okay? Did you take any of those photos yourself?
Like, did were you behind the camera on any of them? That's what I'm okay. So I'm not worried about you then. But what I am kind of worried about is just where it comes from and where you got it from because, you know, I don't think it's fair that you have a pedophilic disorder, yet this app is just allowing this shit to grow on trees. How could you not?
It's like Eve eating the apple, man. So, yeah, it's not sure you have a little bit of control, but it's not all your fault. I mean, they Telegram needs to be accountable. You know what I mean? So I'm just curious.
Where is
Speaker 1: the telephone coming from on Telegram? You can't really find it looking for it.
Speaker 0: How does it come to you?
Speaker 1: There might be a forward or phrase of CP on there.
Speaker 0: Okay. How many people do you think of or how how long have you been on Telegram with people sending you that type of stuff?
Speaker 1: Probably, 4 weeks.
Speaker 0: Okay. So it's pretty recent then? No problem. Are they sending this to
Speaker 1: you in groups, or are they sending
Speaker 0: this to you in
Speaker 1: different I I don't get any. I don't get it.
Speaker 0: Okay. So these are individuals sending it to you? Right. Okay. Are they sending mostly boys or girls?
Okay. Well, you
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember that.
Speaker 0: Okay. Well, you know, the the father of 2 said they were in Lano, that one Telegram that was messaging you.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: So I I was the one posing as that, and I think just out of nowhere, he might have sent me something. I didn't see what the image was. I just saw, like, a download option, and and it was blurred out. But, that's fine. Well, let's talk about the the young boy.
Do you know who could have sent that to you?
Speaker 1: No, sir. I have no idea.
Speaker 0: Okay. Was this a picture or a video?
Speaker 1: A video.
Speaker 0: Okay. Do you do you believe in saving kids?
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 0: I'm with you on that, man. So what we're gonna try to do is identify this boy. I know you have nothing to do with him being sexual. That's not I mean, unless you were in the video with him. I don't think that'd be the case.
I just I just care more about what was happening in the video and where the video could have come from. So how old that boy looked to you in that video?
Speaker 1: He looked about, 6 to 7.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: Black hair.
Speaker 0: Okay. Any words being spoken in the video? No. Okay. What was happening to him?
Speaker 1: He, the guy was, his brother.
Speaker 0: Oh, really?
Speaker 1: And he put his his penis into his crack Okay. But didn't, didn't have, an insect.
Speaker 0: He just inserted it in?
Speaker 1: And and, another shot was the boy giving the, the man a, philosophy.
Speaker 0: Okay. How how long was that video?
Speaker 1: Probably, a minute.
Speaker 0: Okay. Did was there any finishing in the video? No. Okay. So it was just basically a one minute clip of some CP.
Okay. Fair enough. Are there any other apps where this is kinda going on on?
Speaker 1: No, sir.
Speaker 0: Okay. So I wanted to bring up it's in the messages somewhere. But like I said, I don't I don't feel the need to read it because you've been we've been doing so well with this, so I think it's a it's a team effort at this point. You you mentioned and, again, you're an awesome king. You good?
Speaker 1: Go on. You
Speaker 0: wanna sit down?
Speaker 1: No. Okay.
Speaker 0: Okay. Something about the dark web, how long has that kinda been a thing for? Because that's something I really wanna infiltrate and go after the real bad people, like the traffickers on there, and I think you can be my step one with that by by helping me go after them. So how long have how long has the dark web been kinda putting you on there for?
Speaker 1: About 2 years.
Speaker 0: Okay. Were you on the dark web when I saw you the first time? Did you say it's okay. Okay. So you kinda hid that for me a little bit.
That's okay. It's okay. That's totally fine. How did you, first find out about the dark web? Because I don't know that people should be sharing this with people who have these pedophilic disorders.
I don't think it's fair. But so how did how did they make you find out about this?
Speaker 1: There's only one way you can access it.
Speaker 0: How'd it happen? With the,
Speaker 1: I just read a lot about it. Okay. I was interested in it. I just read a lot about it.
Speaker 0: Okay. It's totally fine. Just kind of something that sparked your curiosity. That's fair. Hey.
You're a guy, man. Guys are curious. We wouldn't have the country of America if it wasn't for just curious guys. You know what I mean? So, alright.
So about for 2 years, you've been kind of just going on the dark web? That's fair. Do you usually look for boys or girls on there?
Speaker 1: Both. Okay.
Speaker 0: What's the typical age preference? Or what's the typical age range that you kinda look for?
Speaker 1: 10 or 11.
Speaker 0: Okay. What's the youngest age you've seen on there?
Speaker 1: 5 or 6.
Speaker 0: Okay. So, I think that could be maybe your limit. So, I wanna ask about this other thing, with infants and toddlers.
Speaker 1: And I
Speaker 0: don't think you're into that because, you know, you were abused when you were sick. So I I think it maybe start maybe you're cut off sick. Maybe that's why you're not telling me about if it's a toddler. But I wanna go after those baby herders because that's just not fair they're doing that to babies. And I'm sure you agree with that.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: So is there anything on the dark well, I'm not gonna ask you, is there? I'm just I'm gonna ask how many times have you seen stuff on the dark web with, like, infants and toddlers? Just a few. Okay. Even as young as, like, newborns and all that?
Speaker 1: Oh, no. Not that young.
Speaker 0: What what do you say is the youngest age?
Speaker 1: About 5 or
Speaker 0: 6. 5 or 6? What about, like, 3 or 4? No? Okay.
What typically happens to the 5 or 6 year olds?
Speaker 1: They have father, or the male Mhmm. Rubs their body and never has intercourse. And the kid, has lost you with a man.
Speaker 0: Okay. Is the kid a boy or a girl or they're just being a okay.
Speaker 1: You can you can get to all of it yourself if you go to the website, the tour. Tour? It you can get to anything.
Speaker 0: Okay. How do I go to Tor? Like, is it like a do I just type it on Google or do I download it or how does it work?
Speaker 1: You type it on Google and then it'll give you a download. And, tour is a
Speaker 0: Using Europe?
Speaker 1: To stop to get away from censorship.
Speaker 0: Oh, sure. Sure.
Speaker 1: Tory's Tory's, you can't follow it. You can see that law enforcement can see that you're using it, but you can't they can't sit together.
Speaker 0: Right. It's all like Instagram or Facebook where they can just go in and see your stuff. Okay. Got it. Got it.
Do you do you mainly watch child porn on Telegram or tours or somewhere else? Or
Speaker 1: Just on tour.
Speaker 0: Okay. And I'm only asking this because, you know, obviously, in order to get help, we need to identify what there is needs to be help. So you just sit here and told me that you don't watch any child porn, then there'd be no help. There'd be no I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. No.
Speaker 0: No. No. I know. I know you didn't say it. But if you were to say that, there'd be like, okay.
Well, what needs to be helped? Right? But, you know, in order to really figure out the extent of help help we need, like, from once a week, multiple times a week, who knows? We just wanted to get through this. Right?
Speaker 1: I it I'm I don't do it for, sexual insight. Aside. I just out of order.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: Because it it just makes makes dopamine in my brain.
Speaker 0: It just kinda flares up something there? Okay. How how often do you watch child porn?
Speaker 1: Maybe once, once a week.
Speaker 0: Once a week.
Speaker 1: But there's, there's nothing I ever really knew.
Speaker 0: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: There's I've I've seen it all. I've been I've been through all of it. It kinda depends on my hormones whether I'm attracted to it or not.
Speaker 0: Okay. So it's kinda like with, you know, a lot of guys and women. It's like, you see a really fat chick and you're like, oh, I don't like that. But then you see, you know, some Latita with like a fat ass and big tits are like, oh, yeah. I like that.
Or kids kinda the same way, like some you like, some you don't like. Right. Okay. I see what you're saying. That's good insight, man.
I think that's a great way for to get some help. I'm not gonna take it from you, but, May, see what's in the bag. I'm gonna give it right back to you. Toilet paper? What's that for?
Speaker 1: My all of my nose.
Speaker 0: Alright. Condoms here. So you weren't gonna go wrong in Hailey. This was supposed to be used for Hailey? Okay.
Viagra pills. Alright. Charger. And then, lubricant here. Alright.
Speaker 1: You have to throw all that out if you want. I just need to charge it.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: But, maybe you better maybe it'll better let me throw out so you don't keep it forever. Understood?
Speaker 0: Yeah. We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 0: I'll just put it right here. Yeah. It's fine with me. Interesting. So something of so it was said in the messages about, like, you wanted to this has always been, like, a dream come true for you to come do something like this.
Correct. Okay. I appreciate your honesty. How long has that been a fantasy for? To just come over, have sex with an underage kid?
Speaker 1: Since about 12.
Speaker 0: Okay. When you were 12, what age were you fantasizing about?
Speaker 1: Mostly just, Young change.
Speaker 0: That's your that was the same age, though, when you were 12. Okay. What about when you were, like, 18? What age were you fantasizing about?
Speaker 1: I didn't do that much. I was I was too busy in college.
Speaker 0: Okay. Where'd you go to school?
Speaker 1: I set them.
Speaker 0: Oh, okay. Stephen F Austin. Did you graduate? Okay. What were you majoring in?
Forestry,
Speaker 1: chemistry, and computer science.
Speaker 0: That's why you're pretty smart. We're getting on the dark web and all that. Double edged sword for sure. So what about in your adult life? Like, when did you start kinda having these fantasies about doing something like this
Speaker 1: again? When I started looking at, young girls on Facebook.
Speaker 0: Oh, okay. It it reinvigorated something? Okay. How long ago was that happening?
Speaker 1: Probably, 2 or 3 months ago.
Speaker 0: 2 or 3 months ago? Well, so let me remind you the first time we met you was in September. So that was longer than 3 months ago. We've been doing well, man. I'm just asking, like, when this kinda reinvigorates.
That's all. Because you told me that you've been on the dark web for 2 years. I'm just trying to get a timetable of how long this has been going on for just so we know how much help we can do. No.
Speaker 1: I I can't really can't really think about it.
Speaker 0: Can't like I can't have done. Can't visualize that?
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 0: That's fine. That's no worries, man. Shit. You're good. You're good.
You kinda lose track of time as you get older. What was, what was the long term plan with Haley? Like, what were you hoping would happen, say, after today?
Speaker 1: Well, she was, very understanding, or you were. Mhmm. And I was emotionally attracted. Okay. Not just sexual.
Speaker 0: Okay. So you're hoping for, like, some something more long term? Okay. What was this kind of thing about, adopting her?
Speaker 1: I'm still
Speaker 0: Okay. Here, a car is coming. You just wanna
Speaker 1: kinda step over
Speaker 0: this way. Oh, now we're good. We're good. Just parking. Alright.
How how long were you hoping this relationship would
Speaker 1: last? Well, it was pretty real to me. I didn't think it would last any more than, just one encounter.
Speaker 0: Really? Were you hoping it would last longer, though? Not really. No. Because you mentioned you were emotionally attracted to her, so I was just kinda seeing, like, were you hoping this this is, like, gonna be a boyfriend girlfriend type ordeal, like, for a long time or I'm not judging you.
I'm not I'm just asking.
Speaker 1: I have that feeling. Yeah.
Speaker 0: Okay. So that's what you wanted. Right. Okay. That's totally fair,
Speaker 1: man. Gosh.
Speaker 0: Are you thirsty at
Speaker 1: all? Sir? Thirsty? I'm sorry?
Speaker 0: Thirsty?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 0: Are you thirsty at all?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 0: Okay. Can you, can you get me a can you give me a water every week? Can you head to the gas station and get me a water? I'll just I'll hang on to these. Okay.
Just just wait, like, probably 5 minutes to call. Jeremy. Alright. Here, just just step on these. I don't need a whole one.
Speaker 1: Can we hurry up and get this over?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
So part of chiropractic You know, you
Speaker 1: ruined my life, Wes.
Speaker 0: I understand.
Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't, being the kind of person I am, but you brought it out and you you you put me on a a on a suicidal path.
Speaker 0: What's happened since then? Like, with friends and family and all that?
Speaker 1: None of them know anything about it.
Speaker 0: Not really.
Speaker 1: Except my, MHMR counselor.
Speaker 0: What do they say about it?
Speaker 1: Just that there's therapy there. Okay.
Speaker 0: That's fair.
Speaker 1: I spent a week in the hospital and got over this.
Speaker 0: Oh, yeah. And,
Speaker 1: Wait.
Speaker 0: Let me see. The yeah. Oh, yeah. That's the wrist mark right there.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, now
Speaker 0: Do you still have their stuff? About
Speaker 1: 20 24 right now. I'll be
Speaker 0: honest with you. Sure. I I understand. Understand.
Speaker 1: You know, I had a good life coming up in a a new apartment. Mhmm. I don't think I can ever a good over this.
Speaker 0: The second time? Well, you know, the first time I was kinda more overbearing, but this time I actually think that's just a help thing because, you know, I read some of the messages and Yeah. Were they graphic? Yeah. Of course.
They were very sexual but, you know, I think a lot of it was too that, a lot of it too is like, it's just you're screaming for help, man. You're like, I don't wanna hurt you. I mean, despite your disorder, you don't wanna hurt her, man. And that's something I think we can get through. I mean, you still have a long time left on this earth.
Probably have a good 20, 30 years left. Doesn't Okay. Doesn't mean it needs to go to shit. You you know what I'm saying? I'm willing to work with you on this.
As a matter of fact, what I'll do is I'll give you my phone number. Okay? Okay. And you're willing you're willing to be in touch with me every day?
Speaker 1: No. You can go through my counselor at MHMO. Okay. I'm not gonna talk to you anymore.
Speaker 0: Okay. Understand? Yeah. I understand. It's totally fine.
Well, let's get through this part then. Okay? Then we'll, part ways. If you ever wanna reach out to me, then you sure can.
Speaker 1: I just hope you can get me right now.
Speaker 0: I'm willing to do that. I can work Because I I
Speaker 1: have no money right
Speaker 0: now. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'll lift right now.
Speaker 0: Mhmm. Well, it's can I go over this then? You know, or have you kinda studied technology in the past couple of years? Okay. Have you looked into too much about what phones can potentially do?
Speaker 1: About what?
Speaker 0: What phones can potentially do?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: Okay. What what are some of the things you found out they could do?
Speaker 1: Get on the dark web.
Speaker 0: Yeah. No. Sure.
Speaker 1: And can certainly be packed.
Speaker 0: Sure. But there is there is a thing, that some devices whether phones or tablets or even computers, they have bigger they have bigger they basically attract more they basically trigger more dopamine in people. So, for example, you know, if I had a flip phone from 1990 versus an iPhone now, what do you think would have more dopamine?
Speaker 1: Oh, that occurs.
Speaker 0: You're right. Of course. So, even current models, they have different levels of dopamine they can release. So, that's why I'm kinda curious. When you go on the dark web and on Telegram, which device are you using?
Because I think maybe that
Speaker 1: could be a
Speaker 0: It's a new one. It's a new one? So is it is that is it that one right there? Okay. Where's your
Speaker 1: other phones at? They're no good
Speaker 0: anymore. Okay. So have one. Okay. So Telegram's on that phone.
Okay. Got it. So I'm not saying I'm gonna take your phone or even ask you to go through it, but it's hard to go through right now. I find
Speaker 1: Telegram on there.
Speaker 0: Okay. I see. So that that could that could be the case of why it's given out that much.
Speaker 1: Tell me something. Where is this going?
Speaker 0: Well, so I I think I think a big help would be Sure. I mean, everybody needs a smartphone nowadays but even getting you a smart phone from 2012 might help with the with kind of the dopamine blockage. You know what I mean? It's a route. It's kind of a new science.
It's kind of a new science. Is there is there anything that's like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to
Speaker 0: think that could be is that an Android or iPhone?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. No, sir. I'm not gonna change phones. Okay.
Unless you get a warranty or No. No. Just by
Speaker 0: No. No. No. For sure.
Speaker 1: Come on. Let's get this. That that ruined my life and that's all it.
Speaker 0: But, Phil, if you understand that I'm here because I don't want your life ruined, you know, if I took all these and just pretended that I didn't even like, if I thought you're a bad person, Philip, you wouldn't even know that I had them. You know what I mean? And there's some people that we come across that that I don't even go talk to them. I talked to I'd only talked to the ones that I think can get help, man.
Speaker 1: Okay. So So what do you suggest?
Speaker 0: Well, you've been so honest so far, so I suggest we stay on that path and we kinda just Do I have to
Speaker 1: talk to you again? Well, frankly, I'm not going to. Right.
Speaker 0: I'll put
Speaker 1: it that way.
Speaker 0: You don't have to talk to me even right now. But You
Speaker 1: can I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have meetings with you or anything. You can, suggest anything you want to my, mental health counselor.
Speaker 0: Okay. But would you give me permission to maybe give her suggestions? Sure. Okay. We'll do that then.
That's totally fine. Is there a so this is what I'm kinda curious about. Alright. Is there anything is there anything, like
Speaker 1: so when I was posing as
Speaker 0: a guy, the dad in Lano on Telegram, did kinda
Speaker 1: ring a bell a little bit?
Speaker 0: Okay. He did he did send me something.
Speaker 1: I don't know if
Speaker 0: it was a video or a picture because I didn't download it or view it, but it was I've I'm pretty sure it was probably CP. Where did that come from?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't even know
Speaker 0: what you're talking about. Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Okay.
Speaker 0: How many people would ask you this is interesting, kinda, because maybe I wanna probe those people to see if they just have a disorder or to see if they're actually malicious. So that's a big difference to me. Do do you kinda see what I'm saying there? So how many people have asked you to send them CPs?
Speaker 1: 1. Who was it? My buddy.
Speaker 0: What app was it on?
Speaker 1: It was Telegram.
Speaker 0: Okay. Do you know about how long those could have been?
Speaker 1: Maybe a week and a half.
Speaker 0: Okay. What did you send them?
Speaker 1: It, it wanted the app wanted money and I didn't have it.
Speaker 0: The app wanted money? No. No. But I mean, if they're asking you to send them CP, that's what I'm asking. Like, how many people ask you to send them child porn?
None. None? Okay. And I'm just I'm only asking this because I know there's been a few people that maybe you've sent some child porn to just randomly. That's okay.
I'd rather know about who they are rather than because I know you're not the one behind the camera. You're not the one actually abusing any kids. Okay? Okay? So way I look because I saw the messages.
The way I look at it too is if it if the relationship between an adult and a kid is consensual, I'm okay with that. I'm just trying to help you because in this current society, not many people look at it that way. You know what I mean? I'm not judging you for that. And I'm kinda with you on that.
I'm not saying I like kids, but I'm saying I'm with you on that. As long as you don't hurt anybody, that's I believe in that. Okay? So I'm I'd think we we've kinda dinged your phone that there's been a few times where child porn was sent to other people. You know, about how many times it could've been where you have child porn and you sent it to someone else?
Speaker 1: I remember doing that. Okay. I don't I don't know. I'm I'm pretty sleepy and pretty out of it right now, it may have happened.
Speaker 0: Okay. You know what happened? Coulda happened on or or
Speaker 1: Chat.
Speaker 0: Chat? What's what what's that called? What's that EHchat?
Speaker 1: It's a it's a chat for older adults talk about incest. Okay. And he's supposedly banned, but if he has on there any
Speaker 0: They in the same way that weed is in the US. Right? How long ago do you think you could have sent someone child porn to Chad?
Speaker 1: It was probably 2 years ago. Okay. Fair enough.
Speaker 0: And it
Speaker 1: was just a link and it wouldn't take it. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 0: What about on, you mentioned that someone sent you a video of a boy on Telegram. Right? Any other people? Have they sent you anything on Telegram? Okay.
Do you maybe do you recall so maybe you didn't send it somebody, but do you may did you maybe forward that video of the boy to someone else? Like, rather than you just sending, you just kinda took it and forwarded it?
Speaker 1: That's right. I didn't send I didn't forward it anyway. Okay. I deleted.
Speaker 0: Okay. I see. So I do wanna ask about one of those messages there. I'm not gonna get the chats. Okay?
I just wanna give you a chance to be honest. You told Haley that I have a favorite child porn video of a boy. You kinda know whatever I'm going with this, Of a boy, he's giving an adult head or something like that. Is that what it was? You said you were gonna you did you offer to send that to her?
Speaker 1: Yes. And she, of course, she did not.
Speaker 0: Right. As I'm supposed to. Where was that video? Like, how how are you gonna send it to her? Like, was this something in your gallery you were gonna send her or was this, like, out of your ass crack?
It was it was a link to the video? Okay. Where was that link from?
Speaker 1: Telegram.
Speaker 0: Ah, okay. So is it linked to that video directly or was it to a lot of videos?
Speaker 1: You know, I really don't.
Speaker 0: That's fine.
Speaker 1: It was just a one time thing. K. Is
Speaker 0: that the video you were talking about, that somebody sent you on Telegram?
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
Speaker 0: I see.
Speaker 1: Look, you're gonna have to let me go.
Speaker 0: I was never holding you here.
Speaker 1: I need a ride home. K. Alright. I just don't have enough money right now. I will in the morning.
If you wanna put me in one of these motel rooms, I can get them. Let me
Speaker 0: see. Let me confirm.
Speaker 1: About $26 to go.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to him
Speaker 0: for a second. Is that cool? Any other people besides Haley that, recently talked to you on Facebook that were younger? No. You mentioned, do you still have kick?
Speaker 1: Pardon me?
Speaker 0: Do you still have kick?
Speaker 1: No. K. I do still. Okay. Did you
Speaker 0: ever have kick at any point? Mhmm. What was kinda what was kinda happening on kick?
Speaker 1: It was just entering interesting to me because it was incented. I never saw any image.
Speaker 0: Okay.
Speaker 1: What do
Speaker 0: you mean by uncensored?
Speaker 1: You can say anything you want. Not like, Facebook where they cut you out.
Speaker 0: Sure. Sure. Of course.
Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. I haven't been on there in several years.
Speaker 0: Did anybody send any CP on Kik?
Speaker 1: No. No? Soon as what you told
Speaker 0: me the first time, So, I wanna ask about this. So you said here, well, a guy from out of town came to my house and said he wanted to help me because I'm the kind of guy that likes little girls. He made me really mad, and I tried to get rid of him. He called the police. Then he told my landlord that I was talking to her to the young girl.
She evicted me. My life has never been the same. So what happened with the eviction? Is it the history you got evicted?
Speaker 1: But, you didn't tell the landlord?
Speaker 0: I told him. Yeah. I did. But what happened after that?
Speaker 1: Shit. It's okay.
Speaker 0: I just wanna know.
Speaker 1: I've been I got a notice to make it
Speaker 0: Oh, really?
Speaker 1: For, for illegal. I could
Speaker 0: Oh, what the heck?
Speaker 1: And they said, online solicitation of a minor, something happened.
Speaker 0: Did they ever charge you for it?
Speaker 1: No. There were never any charges.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They said, okay. I'm gone. And that was it.
Speaker 0: So how did you end up getting new housing?
Speaker 1: It took a it took a long, long hard time.
Speaker 0: So are you homeless?
Speaker 1: No. I would be now if I wasn't in the, I found a group home Mhmm. That's cheap.
Speaker 0: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm there now, and I hope to be in a new apartment by the 15th Sure.
Speaker 0: In Del Valle. Okay. Nice. Do you happen to get your cat away too?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: Who'd you get your cat to?
Speaker 1: Some place in Georgia. Okay.
Speaker 0: Do you have any of your family here in Austin? When did you first get diagnosed with pedophilia disorder?
Speaker 1: MHMR about, probably Austin, Travis County MHMR. Maybe maybe 8 or 9 years
Speaker 0: since. Okay.
Speaker 1: Why have
Speaker 0: they not monitored you closer? Sir? Why have they not monitored you closer?
Speaker 1: I sure don't know. Do you
Speaker 0: think you should be monitored closer? Honestly, just asking.
Speaker 1: Well, that's probably gonna happen now.
Speaker 0: Maybe so. I don't know. Okay. So, I do wanna ask this. Okay?
Because like I said, with the dopamine and all that, here we sent to Hailey. I had all my dirty pictures in a special place that nobody can get to. Software programmers could probably find it, but I've got all that worked out too. I've been studying how to do that for years. I love dirty pictures.
So
Speaker 1: I'm willing to You're so vicious.
Speaker 0: What? I'm kinda
Speaker 1: looking for a second. Well, I'm willing to work. You're not doing you're not doing anything you could.
Speaker 0: No. I am trying to help you out.
Speaker 1: You're trying to you're trying to destroy people. No. You're destroying me.
Speaker 0: Philip, if I wanted to do that, I wouldn't be here talking to you. That's all. Do you do you understand how many other people could read these messages and just think the worst of you? And raise their voice and even maybe try to hurt you?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: K. Have I done any of that? Have I? No. I haven't.
Because I don't judge you for this.
Speaker 1: Please, come on. Let's get this over with.
Speaker 0: Let's get it over with. You can
Speaker 1: tell all this to my my mental health counselor and they'll handle it.
Speaker 0: Yeah. But, Philip, I I I I'm afraid if we don't get everything addressed and aired out now, I just feel this could happen again. And we don't want that to happen because wouldn't be good for society, wouldn't be good for you.
Speaker 1: The pedophilic disorder is something that it's always in Mhmm. It's not terrible.
Speaker 0: Right.
Speaker 1: I agree. Treatment is therapy and that's what my mental health counselor said. Mhmm. And I'm willing to do that. Okay.
And I'm willing
Speaker 0: to help you with it, man. Truly. You may you might think that I'm just some piece of shit, but I took you to the shade. I don't I don't I want this to go as smooth as possible. Okay?
It's it's not a good situation, but I want you know, it's about making the best out of world. Terrible situations. Right? You you think people in the foxhole in World War 2 were like, this is great? No.
But they made the best out of it. You know what I mean? Okay.
Speaker 1: What what are you getting at?
Speaker 0: So what I'm getting
Speaker 1: Let's move along.
Speaker 0: Let's move along now. I agree. So what I'm getting at here is I think the one thing that hasn't been aired out yet that I'm willing to air out and I'm willing to just kinda overlook this and we're just honest about it. I had all my dirty pictures in a special place that nobody can get to. Software program should probably find it, but I've got all that worked out too.
Okay. So first of all, I wanna actually have some hidden folders. I'm just new to my girlfriend. I mean, if you could help me out with that for real. So how do you how do you how do you hide pictures like that?
Just in general. Like, what do what do you do for that? Just curious.
Speaker 1: With several layers of passwords and things like that.
Speaker 0: All on your phone?
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 0: Okay. So do you have, like, a hidden folder on there
Speaker 1: or something? Or just a just the eyes.
Speaker 0: Okay. So I assume that's where the, because obviously, right now, we can't track any photos, but, you know, obviously, you don't immediately save them to the hidden folder. It has it takes some layers. It takes some different places. So we dinged those I don't know why those idiots sent them to you because they're just making your disorder worse.
But, you know, we need we need to know because that's when you
Speaker 1: turn 10.
Speaker 0: Okay. And that's in the hidden folder?
Speaker 1: It's in a place where I keep passwords and card numbers, things like that. Okay. It's not really hidden. Come on. Please let me
Speaker 0: I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not holding you here.
Speaker 1: Okay. Please call me. Call me and call me. I've got to get out of here. Or I'm I'm on the edge, man.
Speaker 0: Man. I understand. But, you know, you're doing so well. You're doing so much better than the first time. And, you know, this this I'm going to know, Philip.
This interaction convinced me that you want help. This interaction convinced me that this is the last day that you get carried away with this. It really has, man. It means the fucking world to me, dude. We're almost there with that with that honesty.
We're almost there. You you're there, man. You're doing a Okay. You're doing a great job. So you are these videos or photos that you have saved?
Speaker 1: Just photos.
Speaker 0: K. These boys, girls, both? Or
Speaker 1: I really don't remember. K.
Speaker 0: What are the age ranges?
Speaker 1: 10, 11, 12.
Speaker 0: K. Are these like nudes?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 0: Got it. And I'm gonna ask you one more time. Just try your best to remember. I'm not asking for exact numbers, but is it both boys and girls or one more than the other or Both. Both?
Okay. No problem, man. Any of them in sex acts or just them posing naked or? Just naked. Okay.
Can you see their penis and vagina? Mhmm. Okay. Where'd you get those photos from?
Speaker 1: There's a, there's a site that you get to on tour called Lolly World.
Speaker 0: Okay. Lolly World. And then this is easy picking pretty much? Okay. I'm not expecting the best answer here.
I'm just expecting sorry. I'm not expecting, like, some exact answer. I'm just expecting your best. Why did you choose those 10 photos to save and not others?
Speaker 1: I really don't know.
Speaker 0: That's fine.
Speaker 1: It just has something to do with what's been going on in tech.
Speaker 0: That's fair.
Speaker 1: Now, please remind me, you've gotten you've gotten all your all your information. You know all about me. You can you can call my counselor or whatever. Don't ruin my life anymore. Police.
Speaker 0: I know. But this right here is actually making your life better. I know so. It is. It is.
Because Because
Speaker 1: I live alone. I, I don't have friends or family. I dwell on things. That's why I do say.
Speaker 0: For sure. For sure.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to go to counseling and tell them to tell them. So that's your next step. Call my counsel.
Speaker 0: Sure. Sure. Do do you mind, and this is something I might wanna go back and examine to see how deep the cut was. Do do you mind kinda showing your wrist to the camera? And we're gonna get a little bit closer there, if you don't mind.
Is that per a permanent scar? Yeah. Is it numb? Like, does it feel numb? Touch it?
No.
Speaker 1: No. Do
Speaker 0: you think it's fully healed up or something? It's good. Was it that deep of a cut or No. No. No.
Just the attention seeker kind of?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 0: I know. All sassy.
Speaker 1: Do you
Speaker 0: have any other scars? No. So that was your first time you cut yourself? DoorDash delivery.
Speaker 1: Hold on, man. Let let me get out of this, please.
Speaker 0: Here. Do you want me to call him?
Speaker 1: Call, can you make a a lift ride for me on here?
Speaker 0: I can try.
Speaker 1: I don't it's it's connected to my car, and I have no money Okay.
Speaker 0: I could try.
Speaker 1: Until tomorrow morning.
Speaker 0: I could try.
Speaker 1: It's on.
Speaker 0: I can try to get my phone and try to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 0: How about that? Okay.
Speaker 1: K. Do you
Speaker 0: mind just putting that up for now and then a boy do that?
Speaker 1: Oh, do
Speaker 0: you mind just getting it?
Speaker 1: Do you do
Speaker 0: you mind just getting it? So, Philip, do do you think people on Telegram and the dark web are good people? No. Okay. So when I when I when I ask you this, just know that I'm I'm trying to get your blueprints so I can go after the real bad guys.
Okay? This is not me trying to shit on you or be be, you know, blah blah blah blah blah. But how many layers of passwords would we have to get through to get those hidden folders? I'm not saying I'm taking it. I'm just just asking, like, theoretically, like, if I were to have it in my hand, how many layers of passwords do you have to protect that?
Speaker 1: There's not there it's not really password as much as it is just hidden on the floor.
Speaker 0: Oh, really? But you said credit card numbers too?
Speaker 1: Correct. Okay.
Speaker 0: Is is Tor an app on your phone?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: Okay. So if I were to go into Tor, I'd find that stuff. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair.
Is anything like accidentally saving your gallery or anything? No.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
Speaker 0: Well, he's getting my phone, and I'll try to arrange something for you. Okay?
Speaker 1: Please. Yeah.
Speaker 0: How's your daughter been out you've been doing?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 0: Why not? I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to her in 3 years.
Speaker 0: Oh, why is that? Well,
Speaker 1: she just didn't have anything to do.
Speaker 0: Why?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Okay.
Speaker 0: Please get me. Okay. I I do wanna ask about this because this is, you know, because it yeah. There's a lot of crossover in pedophilic disorder, but there's always but there's not always it's not always the one or the other. Yeah.
So when you say here absolutely I'm really into incest, How long have you been into incest for?
Speaker 1: Probably since I was 12.
Speaker 0: Okay. So those feelings are with pedophilic disorder? Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm
Speaker 0: willing to give them to you after we're done here.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 0: You can do what you will with them.
Speaker 1: You probably have a you can get through a copy right away. Right?
Speaker 0: Yeah. I I could, but
Speaker 1: No. Forget it.
Speaker 0: Okay. Want me to just just dispatch, like, kinda like
Speaker 1: can I
Speaker 0: just throw them up in the air and see who gets them? Or I
Speaker 1: don't care. Okay. I really don't care anymore.
Speaker 0: Okay. Everything's done.
Speaker 1: Everything is overworked. Okay.
Speaker 0: So I I wanna kind of,
Speaker 1: you have
Speaker 0: an emoji here. You said this, this is me when I'm licking your pussy. Is this actually a picture of you here? Or Of
Speaker 1: course not. Okay.
Speaker 0: So what kind of,
Speaker 1: you planned on this from the very beginning? You've been following me since the last time.
Speaker 0: Not necessarily. K. So you promised a sex today with Ayla to be consensual?
Speaker 1: Yes. Okay.
Speaker 0: Was was there other stuff that maybe you were interested in, like, cunnilingus or blowjobs? You wanna do all that stuff? That's fair. Okay. So I kinda wanna just see how accurate this is.
You said this whole page paragraph here. We need to see each other, talk and listen to each other. We can do that on a video chat on the phone unless your parents have disabled it. You and I need to spend time in each other's presence. Even if it's just 15 or 20 minutes in the motel room, we need to look at each other, look in each other's eyes, smell the smell the odor of each other.
We need to touch each other even if it's just a rub on the cheek. All that buildup has to last about 20 minutes. When we see each other for the first time, of course, neither of us will know what to say except hi. That's not going to work. You are a mature and smart little girl.
You and I need to communicate about something we have in common. I know we've done a lot of that already, but we need to look in each other's eyes and say, yes. I trust you and I wanna make I know all that. Me feel good. And you
Speaker 1: get what are you getting at?
Speaker 0: Hey. I'm going to be twice scared as you because I'm gonna have to get an erection to put my penis into your vagina, then do something I've never done. Push my penis through your hymen. I'm I'm I'm sweating just thinking about it. It will be painful to you and you will bleed some.
All this is reality. This is what happens in the real world, to real people. It's nothing like a porn movie. I'll tell you what. After the first time, things get hot and fast.
What do you think? Haley, if that long message can't do it, read me and tell me, hey.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you if
Speaker 0: you're tired of all this bullshit I've been telling you. I just wanna fuck too. This is important to me, and it will be to you when you look back on it. I'm not suggesting we fall in love or something silly like that. This is about pure, hot, perverted sex.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: Is that kinda what you're envisioning today? Mhmm. Okay. Nothing wrong with pure, hot, perverted sex. Here was said or should I say, I can't wait to fuck you and your little and your sweet little pussy.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: K. Is that that is that accurate? Mhmm.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: You know, I, have
Speaker 1: a I can't. I've got to get out of here. Okay. I'm gonna go home and just find the find the find the sharpest tool I can to get them out of out of life. K.
You gotta let them go.
Speaker 0: Well, you're actually the biggest tool I've ever seen. Because you kinda blame everything on everybody else and you take no accountability.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now let's go.
Speaker 0: I never said I was holding you here.
Speaker 1: Okay. Call me call me around. Wait. This is, this is got this these channels have,
Speaker 0: Yeah. And we actually use a cutting wrist technology to kinda do what we do. I mean, sorry, cutting edge, excuse me, to kinda do what we do.
Speaker 1: Okay. Please please let me go.
Speaker 0: You're free to go.
Speaker 1: Call me you've got to call me in a car. I have to wait to get out.
Speaker 0: We we called you 1.
Speaker 1: You did Lyft? I don't have any money to get home until tomorrow morning.
Speaker 0: Was is Uber okay?
Speaker 1: Sure. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 0: Well, we we we kinda we actually got you 3 cars. You can take your pick. It's actually we use the service called, Georgetown PD over there.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: What do you what do you want from us?
Speaker 0: I I think your ride's over there.
Speaker 1: Have me arrested you?
Speaker 0: Me? No. I'm not gonna arrest you.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? Come on. Let me get up with you.
Speaker 0: Well, I think I think they under called because he saw a commotion. But what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna voucher you in front of cops. Okay? I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be like, it's fine. We're we're good. Okay? Right now? Mhmm.
Speaker 0: Argan, did you ever do any of this again?
Speaker 1: No. It's all good. You're just going off on top of me. Okay.
Speaker 0: Sounds good to me. So when they talk to us, I'll just be sure to, like, be in your corner. Okay? Sound good?
Speaker 1: Sound good?
Speaker 0: What? How's it going, sir? Good. How are you guys? Good.
So, basically, we're just here having a consensual conversation with Phil with Philip. So you were only gonna have you weren't gonna force anything on Hailey. He's gonna be consensual sex today. Right? Correct.
With and she's what? How old was she?
Speaker 1: 13.
Speaker 0: Okay. And there's, like, probably 10 images of child porn you have to delete off your phone. Right? Correct. Okay.
And that's on that phone?
Speaker 1: Correct. Sir, if you don't mind talking to me real quick.
Speaker 0: Just try it over here.
Speaker 1: I'm
Speaker 3: just going this way. Hello.
Speaker 0: How's it going? Pretty good.
Speaker 3: We're trying to figure out what's going on. I know you're
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 3: What what exactly do you have here?
Speaker 0: We have a group. We've posted miners online, and we catch predators across the country. We're from Houston, Texas, but we're obviously here right now.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: And Philip, we actually this is the second time catching him. The first time was in Austin, in Williamson County, and he was messaging the decoy very sexually. But the only problem was, like, he was very sexual, but I don't think he met the elements of the online solicitation on mine or there's no meeting arranged. And, we called the cops anyway and nothing happened. But, he picked up messaging the decoy starting February 16th.
And this time, he just gets exponentially more sexual and he wants to meet up for sex this time. And, this time he's possessing child porn on his phone. And he admitted all of his stuff on camera that he wants to have sex with her, that he actually traveled here to meet. We actually got him a Lyft ride. Like, he he he has to get a Lyft.
We we got him a Lyft ride. Okay. And he travels from Austin to Williamson County to meet up here. The reason why we, said we're in Williamson County is because, you know, Travis County just, you know, just doesn't really do their job. So that's why we're here.
So he's there with child porn on his phone like he admitted on the cops' body cam, And, you know, he admitted to wanting to have sex with a 13 year old girl on the cops body cam, and I believe that's should be, probable cause
Speaker 1: to the rest of it. Old girl?
Speaker 0: Correct. That we're posing as
Speaker 1: So one of y'all were all
Speaker 3: of you were kinda splitting in?
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 3: Yes. Do you what device were you using to communicate with him?
Speaker 0: That's in California. That's where the decoy is.
Speaker 3: The device used? Yes. Like, was it a cell phone, computer, tablet?
Speaker 0: Cell phone to cell phone.
Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. So you don't have that cell phone here with you right now?
Speaker 0: No. But he has his cell phone he's using to communicate, and he has he claimed the child porn's on there, but he has devices in the in his house at 301, Yeah. Blacks Blackston.
Speaker 3: That's in Austin, you said?
Speaker 0: Yeah. That's that's in, Travis County, unfortunately. But he's here right now with in Williamsburg now.
Speaker 3: I heard you, sir. I'm just trying to get more facts going on here while he talks to him. Right? So do you do y'all have your IDs on you?
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Do you mind if I see
Speaker 3: them real quick?
Speaker 0: Yeah. It's in the car. May I go get it? Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's fine. And what are what are you holding in here? And then as it's
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 0: In in that bag right there, I forgot to tell you. In that bag, he has lube and condoms and, you know, everything.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 0: And he he showed me them. It's on camera too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's right on yeah. Is that just trash?
Speaker 0: Or Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay. I mean, I don't what what are these Chats.
Speaker 1: That you've got your
Speaker 0: These aren't through? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. These aren't everything, but they're, like, obviously, like, way more than enough to know what's he's up to.
Speaker 1: So is
Speaker 3: this via what platform is this?
Speaker 0: It started on Facebook, and then we started using this app called TextNow, which is a fake burner app. But he was he might have been using a fake app too. I don't know. But he was whatever.
Speaker 3: Multiple platforms.
Speaker 0: That's correct.
Speaker 1: Okay. So this is for your Facebook? Yes. And then this is for your ad app? Yes.
What's the
Speaker 3: phone's what?
Speaker 0: TextNow. TextNow.
Speaker 3: Okay. So your cool if I look through
Speaker 0: this Absolutely. Keep them.
Speaker 3: Are these in any sort of chronological order or
Speaker 0: Yeah. Absolutely. And we have a cool vest use. It's an initial a terrible Shorty for you. Yeah.
We we need for obvious reason, guys. I thought you said the security number was gonna be uncensored. Why why is I paying $8?
Speaker 1: Why is there something in your head called the brain?
Speaker 0: I know. Oh, yes. There's a rig on here. You also have to tell me too.
Speaker 3: She lives there. She has heard of us.
Speaker 0: We're willing to if y'all really need I mean, everything that ever she didn't use her actual well, on the original cell phone messages on apps. Those would be reserved. But if you really need her to mail mail a phone, and we can do that, we'll let her do that. Okay. Just basically worried, like, yeah.
I'm on the way or whatever. Yeah. Just just just show the last just send me the last few messages where he's like, I'm almost there. I'm coming. I'm all the way.
Speaker 1: And and send somebody a
Speaker 0: one way while we were getting done. Yeah. Yeah. Just just get, like, the last, like just just get, like, last week's message And then where you give the room number too, where you give the room number too.
Speaker 1: 2. Had access to any kids.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I truly believe he has.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 0: Oh, I Yep. Alright. Whenever you're ready. Alright, guys. Be sure to join locals in the Penncom.
It helps us travel those and catch the tickets. So they took his phone. No arrest yet. We got we do have to mail the phone that he's communicate with him. But, basically, in short, they told me I mean, he's gonna get arrested.
It's just it's just not today. They just need to get everything together and they'll go do it.
Speaker 1: So I
Speaker 0: think, I mean, nothing fucking the rest of it. How can they not? It's just too obvious. But alright. And, you know, if you wanna see his first video yes.
His first video that I keep I'm not I'm keeping it on local. That's all I'm saying. It may involve a little bit of a, might involve a little use of the on a on his wrist assist. Just saying, so which I can't talk. I just think he did talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 0: That's all locals. You can go watch in the big pond
Speaker 1: if you wanna see his first catch.
Speaker 0: But, yeah, I mean, this guy's one of the worst. So Alright, guys. So that was part 2. I think he's gonna get arrested this time. I hope by the time this video drops, it has arrested in the title.
But, yeah, if you wanna see all of part 1, believe me, you do not wanna miss it. It's not going on low it's not going on YouTube. It's not going on Rumble. It is gonna remain on locals. So head on over to see part 1 of the pinned comment.
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reSee.it AI Summary
Kansas City Police released a pedophile on parole for child porn, despite him admitting to having child porn on his phone. The officer refused to identify himself. They only took the phone after a scene was made. Requesting body/dash cam footage. Clarification: @kcpolice, not @KCKPDChief.
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
Kansas City Police just let a pedophile (WHO IS ON PAROLE FOR CHILD PORN) walk after he admitted TO THEM there was child porn on his phone… The male officer wouldn’t even identify himself. @kcpolice @KCKPDChief This yall you fuckin clowns?
Video Transcript AI Summary
Kansas City police are releasing a sex offender who admitted to having child pornography on his phone because they can't seize it. The speaker urges to capture the officer's badge number and film the cop car. They accuse the police of protecting child molesters while other counties prosecute. The speaker repeatedly asks for the officer's badge number. They express disbelief that the police are letting the child molester go and plan to take action.
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Speaker 0: They're they're just gonna not take his phone today because they can't they they said they can't seize his phone even though this guy's on parole. Here, get get the officer's badge number. Get the officer's badge number. They're literally letting him go. Get this right now.
Get this right now. They're literally letting this guy go. Kansas City police is letting this sex offender go because they said they can't take his phone even though he admitted to having child pornography on it. They're just gonna let him go. Kansas City police, make sure you get the make sure you get the cop car on camera.
Get the cop car. Kansas City police is letting this admitted child molester go because we're acting as agents of the state when we have nothing to do with the state. We've he he voluntarily told us this on camera. Kansas City police right here protects child molesters. Even though Saint Louis County prosecute, Pulaski County prosecutes, Kansas City Police let a child molester go.
What's your badge number? What's your badge number? What's your badge number? He's playing. What's your badge number?
Okay. What's your badge number? I'm doing a call for now. What's your officer, what's your badge number? Okay.
They're letting us literally they're letting us child Melissa go. Look at this. They're letting a child Melissa go. We are we're gonna go to
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
Here’s one of the officers claiming we’re doing this for likes. Yeah, it’s all about likes. Definitely has nothing to do with you guys doing your fucking job when it’s regarding a literal child molester. https://t.co/cLPH0M3wJN
Video Transcript AI Summary
Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of doing things for likes. Speaker 1 gets defensive and threatens to report Speaker 0 to their supervisor. Speaker 0 insists on reporting the incident to everyone. Speaker 1 mocks Speaker 0's threat.
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Speaker 0: Useless.
Speaker 1: Go and get your likes in, mom. Get the likes.
Speaker 0: Okay. She she said it's for likes. She just said it's for likes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because we get all super passionate.
Speaker 0: She she just said it's for likes.
Speaker 1: Tried to explain to you what's happening
Speaker 0: No. She just said it's for likes. She just said it's for likes. You go with this phone and we're gonna call your fucking supervisor. Oh,
Speaker 1: my fucking supervisor.
Speaker 0: I fucking will. Right. I'll make sure this gets forwarded to everybody. You better take his fucking phone to your fucking job. Alright.
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
At the end they finally got the phone, only because he willingly gave it up. We’re not going to let you forget that you originally weren’t even going to seize the phone. You changed your tune when I started making a scene. Better believe we’re requesting all those body/dash cams too.
Video Transcript AI Summary
The speaker is pleased that a child molester's phone was taken after he signed a consent form. They thank the officer and credit themselves for the action. The speaker acknowledges being an "idiot" and "asshole," but is glad the phone was taken. They express relief that the child molester will go back to jail.
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Speaker 0: They get it? Let's see. Let's go. I'm the asshole. Yes.
Go. Let's go. He actually gave it up. Let's go. Well, they he somehow signed a consent form for his phone.
Thank you so much. And, Casey, be sure to credit us because we're the ones that did this, so thank you. He actually took his phone. Okay. I'm a proud asshole.
Thank you so much, officer. Thank you. Thank you. I'm the idiot. I'm the idiot.
Good. Good. Now granted, they only took it because he signed the consent form. I'm a proud asshole. I'm glad I'm wrong.
Thank you so much. This child molester is gonna go back to jail now. Thank you. Thank god.
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
If you were to ever share a post of mine, let it be this one. Share this shit out of this.
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
I tagged the wrong account @KCKPDChief in the initial post. I want to clarify this was Kansas City, MO @kcpolice. Not Kansas City in Kansas.
reSee.it AI Summary
In Los Angeles, child predators are being released back on the streets due to the lack of prosecution by the DAs. The police are doing their best, but the DAs are not supporting their efforts. It is crucial to bring attention to this issue and hold the responsible parties accountable.
@WallStreetApes - Wall Street Apes
This Is UNREAL 🚨 Child Predators Being Released Back On The Streets In Los Angeles “The Desk Sergeant has said don't bring them in. There's nothing that the DA is gonna do now. Just write it up, file it up, and that's all we can do now. LA is not gonna prosecute pedophiles” “So we gotta just keep bringing a light to it because unfortunately, no fault of theirs, they’ve done everything they can for us, but it's the DAs in California that are refusing to prosecute pedophiles. Police are doing everything they can, but the DA is not supporting them.”
Video Transcript AI Summary
The police are unable to bring in suspects for prosecution because the district attorney in California is not willing to prosecute pedophiles. Despite the efforts of law enforcement, the DAs are not supporting their actions. It is important to continue shedding light on this issue.
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Speaker 0: All they can do now is because of the other guys that they've said is they can process them in, but they're basically, like, desk sergeant has said, don't bring them in. There's nothing that the DA is gonna do now. Just write it up, file it up, and that's all we can do now. LA is not gonna prosecute pedophiles. So we gotta just keep bringing a light to it because, unfortunately, no fault of theirs.
Hold on a second. Everything they can for us, but it's the DAs in California that are refusing to prosecute pedophiles. This is this is Police are doing everything they can, but the DA is not supporting them.
reSee.it AI Summary
An elementary school teacher with a "garbage disposal fetish" was confronted and later turned himself in after a conversation with individuals. The police are currently investigating him, and his school is also involved. To watch the full video and support catching individuals like him, consider subscribing on X.
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
Earlier this week, we confronted an elementary school teacher going after a 13-year-old. He also had a "garbage disposal fetish", which I know sounds absolutely insane typed out like that but it's 100% true... 🤷♂️ In the middle of the conversation, he claimed he had to go get his daughter. Since we obviously can't hold him, he left and we were supposed to continue at his house. When we arrived, we were greeted by a rather unhappy wife who refused to let the conversation resume. We called the police, who arrived shortly after. They informed us that apparently he had turned himself in during the time he was "picking up his daughter". Works for me! He is currently under investigation by the police and his school. If you want to see his full video, and support us traveling across the country to catch sick people like him -- consider subscribing right here on X. It's less than the coffee you wasted money on this morning, and keeps us moving. Just click on my profile and click subscribe at the top right. 🫡
Video Transcript AI Summary
I'm a teacher. My family teaches music too. I wanted to talk honestly with you. Did you send anything weird to Lily? Just a video. I have a strange fascination with garbage disposals since I was a kid. I find them fun. There was a message about living together with a garbage disposal in our house. That's new to me.
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Speaker 0: You're a teacher. Right? Yes. Cool, man. My uncle and my dad are both in education.
They also teach music as well.
Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
Speaker 0: So my dad's a tuba player. My uncle's a clarinet player. I think you play clarinet?
Speaker 1: Saxophone.
Speaker 0: Saxophone? Okay. Cool, man. Do you know what I'm here to talk to you about?
Speaker 1: Yes. Okay.
Speaker 0: I do. Alright. Seem like an honest dude. Yep. I think you teach your kids the same.
Right? Just be honest? Alright. You wanna be honest with me?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 0: Cool, man. What are we here for?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to meet her to say hi. I am not trying to do anything shady. I know it seems that way.
Speaker 0: How old is Lily now?
Speaker 1: She is 13. I'm aware of that. I Okay. I know that she's gonna be turning 14 soon.
Speaker 0: Did you send her anything that could be, like, woah. Why would this be sent?
Speaker 1: One time.
Speaker 0: What was it?
Speaker 1: It was just a video which she I I messed up on that. I did not want to send it, and I shouldn't have. And it was a stupid lapse of judgment.
Speaker 0: So there's something mentioned about, like, garbage disposals in the messages. This is me just kinda being, like, the curious person I am about shit. What's the thing with the garbage disposals?
Speaker 1: This is a weird thing that I've had since I was a little kid. I don't know Okay. Why my brain made that association but it did. Okay. So that's all.
Speaker 0: So you find garbage disposals kind of attractive in a way?
Speaker 1: It's it's hard to describe. It's Just try it,
Speaker 0: but I'm just curious.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is hard to put into words. It's partially that, but they're just we've always been kind of fun. So
Speaker 0: Okay. So there there's a message here, something about eventually we could live together and our house will have a garbage disposal. Yes. Okay. That for garbage disposal, that's a first for me.
reSee.it AI Summary
A video shows a pedophile caught in a Washington DC hotel for arranging to meet a 15-year-old girl. In another video, the same pedophile leads his chasers to the Washington DC FBI office, where he works. The kids who caught him were unaware of his workplace until the end of the second clip. Some express disappointment in the situation, calling it a disgrace and urging action from authorities.
@TheRubberDuck79 - The Rubber Duck ™
the video on the left is a pedophile who got caught in a Washington DC hotel for arranging to meet and have sex with a 15-year-old girl. the video on the right is the same pedophile literally leading his chasers to his place of work -- the fucking Washington DC @FBI office! the kids who caught the pedophile did not even realize they were in the FBI building or that the pedophile worked there - until the end of the second clip. this is supposed to be the most elite police force in the world. what a fucking disgrace. DO SOMETHING!! @USMarshalsHQ
Video Transcript AI Summary
Speaker 0 asks for the person's name and questions their reason for being there. They accuse the person of texting a 15-year-old, which the person denies. Speaker 0 threatens to call the police and demands to see the person's phone. The person tries to leave but is stopped and urged to stay and talk.
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Speaker 0: Your name? Sorry. What's your name? My name? Your name.
What are you doing? What are you here for? I'm here. Who are you here to meet? I'm texting a friend.
You're texting a friend. You're texting a 15 year old.
Speaker 1: No. I'm not.
Speaker 0: Yes. You are.
Speaker 1: No. I'm not.
Speaker 0: No. Stand here and have a conversation, or I'm getting the police here. About to call the police. About to Sir, not? I could see your house.
Okay. Let me pull your phone out. Let me see your apps. Pull your phone out. He's here with a 15 year old.
Sir. Sir. He's here with a 15 year old. Where are you going? You can't stand and talk?
Video Transcript AI Summary
He's with a 15-year-old, someone should call the police. Oh, he works there? Yeah, he does. We have evidence of him having sex with a minor. Let's call the police. This is crazy.
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Speaker 0: Where are you going? He's here to have a 15 year old. Somebody should call the police. Hey. Thank you.
He's here with a 15 year old. Well, you can't. You're welcome. So I thought it was just open. My bad.
So what? He worst hears them? Actually, if you guys are don't have that the alcohol. Yeah. He's here the 15 year old minor.
Sex in his neck. I have all the evidence. And you need to Alright. I will call him now. We're we're we're about to call him.
Yeah. Thank you. He works there? Yeah. He works there.
Holy crap. Is this like a police what what's that? Yo. Yo. That's his work.
Yo. That's crazy. Yo.
@TrueJMitchell - (Jason) Stands For Truth
In Oregon, a Police officer won't arrest someone for walking up to a child naked? 😳 When will sanity come back to America? https://t.co/De0HfrIF2c
Video Transcript AI Summary
In Oregon, a person can be naked in public, even around children, if it's not for sexual gratification. A person claims someone came onto their property and exposed themselves to their two-year-old child. The speaker called 911, but the officer said that the nudity itself isn't a crime unless it's for sexual gratification. The speaker is concerned that the police won't intervene until the person does something more serious.
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Speaker 0: Saying in the state of Oregon, someone can walk up and to to your 2 year old kid completely bare naked, and that's not a crime? Even if it's on your property. Correct. Well, so it's trespassing, but what I'm saying is there's no laws against the the actual nudity portion of it. So you can expose yourself to children in Oregon?
Again, if if you're not doing it for sexual gratification or the gratification of somebody else, yes, You are allowed to walk around in public naked. On private property, this is where I live, and someone just came and exposed themselves to my 2 year old boy. And this officer is saying that it's not a crime. So a naked person came up onto my property here, approached my 2 year old kid completely naked, which I ran over to him and covered his eyes so he wouldn't see. My obvious thought is to call 911 as someone's indecently exposing themselves to my child on my property.
At what point did this become a normal and acceptable thing to do? The cops will literally do nothing about it. They're basically saying we have to wait for that person to do something more serious to your kid before we can intervene.
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I’m outraged that a man who admitted to raping a 3-year-old is free to go home tonight. In Maryland, police can’t use chat logs from civilians, rendering the evidence from the 12-year-old he messaged useless. Our investigation is the only reason this monster is even known. If we were just a couple hours south, he wouldn’t be walking free. This law is absurd, and I urge everyone to share this and tag the governor to push for change instead of allowing pedophiles to be protected.
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
This pedophiIe who admitted to r*ping a 3-year-old tonight is free to go home tonight. Let me tell you about Maryland. The police cannot use any chat logs conducted by civilians. So the 12-year-old he was messaging and came to meet is null and void in the eyes of Maryland law. This monster would never even be known after tonight if not for our own investigation. If we were just a couple hours south, he would not be walking away tonight. It makes no sense. If you think this law is absurd, share this and tag the governor who could take steps to change this instead of protecting pedophiIes @GovWesMoore
reSee.it AI Summary
I can't believe a grooming gang r*pist was caught in the act by police, right next to the Rotherham station. When confronted, he dismissed it casually, and shockingly, the police just drove away, leaving him to continue. What is happening with British police? Why didn’t they intervene to save the girl?
@PeterSweden7 - PeterSweden
WHAT?!?! A grooming gang r*pist that abused girls as young as 11 was actually caught IN THE ACT by police. He was r*ping a girl NEXT to the Rotherham police station. Police came and asked him what he was doing. "She's just sucking my c*ck mate" the r*pist said. Police drove off and left him alone to continue with his r*pe. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH BRITISH POLICE? They literally caught the guy in the act and just drove off allowing him to continue. Why didn't they save the girl?
@juneslater17 - June Slater
How can a government decide an 11 year old child has made a lifestyle choice to be gang raped, and urinated on as punishment for not enjoying it? The police were Instructed to drop investigations into child rape gangs! https://t.co/F9VNvaOVvt
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I recently watched a 2010 interview of Tommy Robinson by Jeremy Paxman. Paxman, an educated presenter, confronted Robinson, a working-class man who initially fought against the system through the EDL but later distanced himself from it. Despite his past, the media continues to highlight it while ignoring serious issues like child abuse by individuals in powerful positions, such as the BBC's Jimmy Savile. Robinson is currently in jail for contempt of court, a victimless crime, while others with similar offenses receive lighter sentences. The systemic failures that allowed Pakistani grooming gangs to operate unchecked are alarming. Robinson attempted to raise awareness about these issues, and I view him as a political prisoner facing harsh treatment for speaking out against a corrupt system.
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Speaker 0: I've just watched a video and shared it on Twitter, Twitter X, of Tommy Robinson on Jeremy Paxman, presumed news map back in 2,010. Were Paxman, an aloof TV presenter at the end of the day with an exceptional education who went on to host university challenge, an academic, I suppose you could call him. He's faced with a a working class lad who fought back against the system the only way he knew how. And later, as he grew up, realized that maybe that wasn't the way to do it, and he left his early beginnings of the EDL. But the media remind you of that every time they talk about him.
And yet, we've got people who have been in official jobs, who have been looking at child porn, and it's not porn, is it? It's child abuse. We've got people who have managed to have a career at the BBC and get away with it for decades. Jimmy Saville for 1. When I watched the video of Tommy Robinson explaining what he saw happening in his hometown with the, growing implications of Islamification, I saw a brave young man in the lion's den, really, at the BBC, back in the day, 2010, when the BBC was still basically a trusted voice.
They hadn't unearthed Jimmy Savile then. So my thoughts are that Tommy Robinson, who's now sitting in jail because the attorney general decided on putting him there the attorney general is a political appointee. He's a labor peer working for a labor government who's decided that for a a victimless crime, which is what contempt is, there's no victim in this crime. Nobody's off work sick. Nobody's injured.
Nobody's distressed. Is to sit in a jail cell for 18 months in solitary confinement, allegedly for his own protection, when other people who have had contempt of court sentences have been given open prisons, fines, ankle tags. I find it very harsh, especially when for decades, Pakistani led rape gangs have got away with it. They've got away with abuse of 100 of thousands of children and merely because these people had also slotted themselves into society in powerful positions on councils and whatever influence they have within the police. How can a police service investigate when they get a directive from a Labour government headed by Gordon Brown at the time that these girls, these 11 12 year old girls, were making a lifestyle choice and not to investigate any further.
Even the Pakistani lawyer who handled the grooming gang cases at the time put that information out in 2,017. How can you make a a lifestyle choice at 11 And 12, how can you decide you want to be gang raped? How can you decide you want to be punished by being urinated on because you haven't lived up to your expectations of being gang raped? How can you be raped with a broken bottle because you refuse? In fact, you beg them to stop.
How is that making a lifestyle choice? What sort of soulless people have been in charge of our systems to allow Britain to descend in this debaucherous system that's allowed this to happen. So I see Tommy Robinson as a man who tried to speak out and warn people about what's happening, and suddenly, the world and his brother is commentating on it. I see, personally, Tommy Robinson as a political prisoner being dealt with harshly because what he has to say would unravel a den of the equity.
@Basil_TGMD - Basil the Great
Tonight a police station contacted a victim of child sexual abuse to tell her to stop talking about the rape gangs that plague our country. If that doesn't terrify you I don't know what will. https://t.co/UKWWuGnEG0
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
Nathaniel Bailey of martinsville, Indiana admitted to molesting 6 children and possessing and trading child porn. MORGAN COUNTY INDIANA said they are not doing ANYTHING and to just go give Indiana state police a “tip” STEVEN SONNEGA is the prosecutor here. https://t.co/2DwWYSvlug
Video Transcript AI Summary
After an arrest in Muskegon Heights, Michigan related to child pornography, the speaker traveled to Morgan County, Indiana, where a suspect admitted to possessing child pornography depicting babies and toddlers and to molesting a one-year-old. Neighbors allege the suspect shocked and stared at children, and has molested six kids. Despite this, Morgan County Sheriff's deputies, allegedly on the prosecutor Steven Sinega's instructions, refused to seize the suspect's phone and instead advised filing a tip with the Indiana State Police. The speaker accuses Sinega of dereliction of duty and enabling a "baby raper" to remain free in the community. The speaker urges people to contact Morgan County, Indiana, to express their concerns.
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Speaker 0: Okay. What's up guys? So despite yesterday of getting this guy's butt buddy arrested for tons of child pornography, we come five hours to Indiana to Morgan County just to be told by the Morgan County Sheriff's deputies that the prosecutor is telling us to make a tip with the Indiana State Police rather than just take his fucking phone when he admitted in front of them that he has child pornography, seeing his babies and toddlers, and he molested a fucking one year old. This guy, as we've heard from the neighbors here, has been this guy shocks kids in the neighborhoods, has babysat those kids, has just stared and stared at kids all the neighborhood. Six six fucking kids molested, and Morgan County fucking sheriffs are letting this guy go because because we just need to submit a tip with the Indiana State Police even though Muskegon Heights, Michigan has messages of this dude too sending child pornography.
It it it's it's a dereliction of duty. Who's the prosecutor in fucking Morgan County, Indiana? Just my name. Baby, be a perk. Who is this person?
Yes. Yes. She's Steve Steve prosecutor Steven Seneca. So not Steven Sinega. Yes.
Steven Sinega is letting is letting this monster walk free tonight. He's the one who made the call himself. You know Morgan County, IN please let them know how y'all feel about this. It's evil. They're just letting you're letting a literal baby raper walk in their community tonight.
Sick.
@iFightForKids - Alex Rosen
On May 15th, we busted a pedophiIe elementary school teacher that admitted to having over 4,000 child p*rn images 😳 Since the media won’t tell you, here’s how it all went down… 🧵 https://t.co/jCwEC7ug1b
Video Transcript AI Summary
Speaker 0 has a USB drive with 90-95 Gigabytes of data, possibly containing around 4,000 videos of varying quality. The data is organized into "videos" and "photos" folders. There is no passcode on the drive. Speaker 1 states his wife is an idiot with technology and wouldn't know about the drive's contents.
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Speaker 0: Or my I don't have my computer, but I have the USB drive. And I got a do have a Mac? Yep. I have an adapter.
Speaker 1: Fuck yes. Cool. Cool. Let's make sure we're off the WiFi and everything. Yep.
Speaker 2: How many how many Giga GigaBytes do we
Speaker 0: have? 90. I think maybe a little more, 95. You didn't give me the whole collection? That's that's odd.
Uh-oh. How many so how many videos do you think that is? It's like 4,000. Fuck. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like varying quality. It's a mess. I just put one in, like, videos folder and photos folder. That's it.
Got it. Got it. Is there a passcode on there? No. There's not a passcode.
But Oh. It'll be like
Speaker 1: My wife's an idiot with technology.
Speaker 2: She won't even know anyway. Yeah. But, yeah, let me
Speaker 0: I'll see who drove.
reSee.it AI Summary
I reported on Ross Yeager, a federal employee and head of OSHA for five states, who was caught trying to meet a 13-year-old girl for sex. A private citizen gathered evidence, including inappropriate messages and explicit images, and handed it to the police. Despite this evidence, the Yellowstone County Sheriffs in Montana decided not to arrest him. This situation raises serious concerns about accountability and the handling of such cases.
@WallStreetApes - Wall Street Apes
Clip 1) Federal employee, Ross Yeager, was busted by a private citizen for going to meet up with a 13-year-old girl for sex He is the head of the OSHA in 5 states Clip 2) The evidence was handed over to police and he was not arrested Alex Rosen (iFightForKids) “We just caught Ross Yeager, the head of OSHA for 5 states. Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and both Dakotas. He was messaging who he thought was a 13 year old girl very inappropriately, including sending penis pictures to her. — Yellowstone County Sheriffs here in Montana. They are not arresting him today despite the ample evidence of what we think is a crime”
Video Transcript AI Summary
Ross is being questioned by the police about his interactions with a 13-year-old. He denies Sorgean ever saw his penis. He is asked if he will talk to a 13-year-old again, and he says no, stating everything is deactivated and done. He is asked if he will send a penis picture to one again, and he says no. He is asked if there will be any more mishaps with his niece, Sorge, and he says no. He is asked if he will rub her butt again or if she will brush her penis again, and he says no.
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Speaker 0: K. So did did Sorgean see your penis at all? No. No. Okay.
So no. No. No. And I and I understand. I dude, I I fully understand.
But, obviously, in this case, whatever happened has already happened. Right? It's about Oh, no. It's the police. Yeah.
Did your How's it going, sir? We're just having a conversation here with Ross. He's he's the head of OSHA over five states for the federal government. Basically, you're not gonna talk to a 13 year old again, are you? No.
Last time doing it? Yeah. Everything's deactivated and done. Okay. You're not gonna send a penis picture to one again, are you?
No. Okay. And there's gonna be no mishaps that happen like Did my wife call? There's there's gonna be you're not gonna send a penis picture to one again, are you, last time doing something like this? Okay.
No. Alright. No more mishaps with your niece. Right? With Sorge.
Okay. They don't live here anymore. Okay. You're not going to rub her butt again? She's not going to brush her penis again?
No. No. Okay. Well, yeah, this is this is kinda what's going on.
Video Transcript AI Summary
Ross Eager, the head of OSHA for Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and both Dakotas, allegedly sent inappropriate messages and penis pictures to who he thought was a 13-year-old girl. He admitted to communicating inappropriately with other minors online and to inappropriately touching his niece.
The Yellowstone County Sheriffs in Montana did not arrest him despite the alleged evidence. The speaker urges viewers to contact the Sheriff's office to voice their concerns and encourage a thorough investigation. The speaker emphasizes that Eager is a high-ranking federal government employee and calls for his removal from the government. The speaker asks viewers to share the information and tag Elon Musk.
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Speaker 0: Alright. What's up, guys? We just caught Ross Eager, the head of OSHA for five states, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and both Dakotas. He was messaging who he thought was a 13 year old girl very inappropriately, including sending penis pictures to her. And we approached him at his home today where he admitted to talking to other minors online and to getting very frisky with his niece admitted to rubbing her butt and to her putting putting her hands where his penis is.
We think there's more we think there's more to it than that, obviously, and hopefully, that gets investigated by the Yellowstone County Sheriffs here in Montana. They are not arresting him today despite the ample evidence of what I we think we think is a crime. So we're gonna be putting their email, we're gonna be putting their email in the description here, and please let your concerns be heard about why he was not arrested today. And or just give him an encouraging message, to do the investigation and and, you know, conclude in a proper manner so this guy can be behind bars. This guy is a federal government employee, not just anyone, but one that's pretty high up, at least in OSHA.
So, yeah, share this, and, of course, tag Elon Musk. We gotta get this guy cut out of the government. We need dojo on this.
reSee.it AI Summary
I want to clarify the situation surrounding Officer Alfredo Luna Jr., also known as @xAlphaWarriorx. He was fired for failing to report child abuse, not for timecard issues as some claim. His termination coincided with the resignations of two police chiefs, raising questions about a cover-up. Additionally, Luna's past includes a questionable relationship with a minor and a history of misconduct that has been overlooked. I have evidence of his actions and will continue to expose the truth, as there are serious implications regarding his integrity and past behavior. More details are forthcoming.
@EscanorReloaded - 🔥Sir Escanor (𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘶𝘮 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳)🔥
LET’S CHUM THE WATERS 🏄 Pedo Simp Brigade ~ PATTERNS 🚨 Reminder: Fettuccini Alfredo @xAlphaWarriorx wasn’t demoted for falsifying time sheets he was under investigation for failing to report child abuse. 🚨 You don’t get quietly booted from a gang task force for a couple punch clock errors. You get removed when you fail your legal duty to protect children. Let’s get the record straight. No whitewash. No spin. He didn’t just lie, he stayed silent when a child needed help. More to come
@EscanorReloaded - 🔥Sir Escanor (𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘶𝘮 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳)🔥
📅 Jan 7, 2019 – Officer @xAlphaWarriorx is officially fired from Cathedral City PD. This was confirmed in May 2019 by then Police Chief Travis Walker during a call with The Desert Sun. 🚨 But here’s where it gets insane: ➡️ The very next day, Travis Walker, his direct supervisor is forced to resign. ➡️ Another nearby police chief (Dale Mondary) is also placed on administrative leave within 24 hours. That’s TWO police chiefs removed after disclosing @xAlphaWarriorx’s exit. Coincidence? Try again. 👉 Because of Walker’s removal, his misconduct investigation is quietly buried. No follow-up. No charges. No justice. Just silence. Gets crazier 👇🏻
@EscanorReloaded - 🔥Sir Escanor (𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘶𝘮 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳)🔥
🗓 March 2011 Officer Jermaine Gibson dies in a fiery crash during a high-speed pursuit. @xAlphaWarriorx says he was 100 feet behind when Gibson’s car lost control and hit a palm tree. The story: “Another officer tried to ram the car to dislodge it from the tree… but that cruiser got stuck in sand. They ran out of foam trying to fight the flames. Gibson burned to death as ammo inside the car exploded.” 👀 That sounds like Hollywood bullshit. Let’s decode it: •Why ram the car at all? That’s not protocol. •“Stuck in the sand”? Where? You’re in downtown Palm Springs not the Mojave, and the photos show practically ZERO SAND. •No headstone shown in Luna’s tribute pic. •ZERO photos of them ever together in uniform OR as friends. •Back of the car is smashed, not the side you’d hit if freeing it from a tree…. 🧠 Here’s what it actually sounds like: Luna may have botched the pursuit possibly even PIT’d the wrong car and concocted this heroic last-minute rescue fantasy to avoid accountability. 🤡 And the driver they were chasing? They didn’t convict him until 5 years later for second-degree murder a sentence that screams political scapegoat. The Pattern •Multiple IA investigations: buried. •Lying on the stand: ignored. •Fello cop dies under suspicious circumstances: never fully investigated. •Cop gets fired: two chiefs vanish, case closed. •Then he rebrands as a patriot digital soldier on X? This man didn’t leave the force. He was erased from it. And now he’s out here trying to become your hopium dealer in a tactical vest. You weren’t a warrior. You weren’t a protector. You were a liability with a badge and now you’re LARPing as a crusader online hoping no one digs into your past. Too late. We just did. — Hopium Slayer MORE BELOW 👇🏻 💥
@EscanorReloaded - 🔥Sir Escanor (𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘶𝘮 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳)🔥
🔥 You know what the craziest part is? This isn’t even the real thread I wanted to drop on this guy. All this stuff about the fake alpha persona, the buried IA investigations, the perjury, the cop crash…. That’s just the pre-show. What I’m working on next is way more vile. Way more degenerate. And way more buried. But since you’ve been patient, I’ll give you a little taste of what’s coming Let’s zoom in on the pattern that no one’s talking about: Erratic capitalizations and AI prompts that dick-tate writing style…. How about drawing? ✍️
@EscanorReloaded - 🔥Sir Escanor (𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘶𝘮 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳)🔥
Since I make “baseless” Claims that @patriotstorm17 and all the other lemmings already “knew about” EVIDENCE: Alfredo Luna Jr. Failure to Report Child Abuse 1. Luna was under criminal investigation for failure to report child abuse •The DA’s office confirmed that Luna was under criminal investigation for failure to report child abuse while he was testifying in the 2018 Sergio Guzmán trial. •The IA investigation began April 16, 2018 and lasted until June 2018while he was still on the gang task force. •This was a direct violation of California’s mandatory reporting laws for peace officers. Primary sources: •https://thetayloraustingroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/desertsun.com-Cathedral-City-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-in-question.pdf •https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/05/09/cathedral-city-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-question/1128505001/ (Original Desert Sun article) 2. No charges filed, but Luna was fired anyway •While the investigation didn’t result in criminal charges, Luna was terminated from Cathedral City Police on Jan 7, 2019, according to then–Police Chief Travis Walker. •City Manager Charlie McClendon confirmed to The Desert Sun that Luna was fired, not resigned. •The department did not cite timecard fraud as the reason for termination. Sources: •https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/05/09/cathedral-city-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-question/1128505001/ •https://thetayloraustingroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/desertsun.com-Cathedral-City-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-in-question.pdf 3. Timecard fraud existed but was not the cause of removal •Luna’s internal file reportedly included falsified time cards, but the department explicitly stated that this was not the reason he was fired. •This misdirection has been used online to deflect from the real misconduct: failure to report child abuse. Sources: •https://patch.com/california/palmdesert/qanon-follower-ex-catcity-cop-denies-charge-extremism-probe •https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/psusd-officer-arrested-in-domestic-extremism-probe-pleads-not-guilty/2602642/ •https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/05/09/cathedral-city-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-question/1128505001/ 4. Failure to report child abuse is a crime under CA law for police •California law mandates that all peace officers are legally obligated to report any known or suspected child abuse or neglect immediately. •Failure to do so is a misdemeanor, punishable by jail time and/or fines under the Child Abuse and Neglect Reporting Act (CANRA). Sources: •https://mandatedreporter.com/blog/failure-to-report-arrests-remind-mandated-reporters-of-legal-duty/ •https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=11166.&lawCode=PEN •https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_reporting_in_the_United_States 5. Luna’s testimony during trial was compromised •In 2015, Luna testified in the Sergio Guzmán trial without disclosing he was under investigation. •This was revealed only years later raising serious questions about perjury, legal ethics, and prosecutorial misconduct. •Guzmán was later retried without Luna’s testimony and received a lighter sentence. Sources: •https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/05/09/cathedral-city-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-question/1128505001/ •https://thetayloraustingroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/desertsun.com-Cathedral-City-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-in-question.pdf
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QAnon Follower, Ex-CatCity Cop Denies Charge In Extremism Probe
An FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force has been investigating Alfredo Luna Jr., 41, who once worked for the police department and the PSUSD.
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@EscanorReloaded - 🔥Sir Escanor (𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘶𝘮 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳)🔥
You absolute degenerates @patriotstorm17, @xAlphaWarriorx, and your brain-dead echo chamber of hopium-drunk lemmings. You’ve been recorded shielding a cop who FAILED to report CHILD ABUSE and now you’re caught admitting you knew the whole time. And what do you do? 🧠 Deflect. 👥 Project. 🗑️ Tell your cult to ignore hard evidence DA documents, internal affairs records, and legal testimony because it hurts your fragile psyop narrative. You lie to your audience, then mute me like that’s going to stop the fallout? You mock my “investigating and evidence,” while defending a man who withheld CHILD ABUSE during a criminal trial and perjured himself in court? How sick, how weak, how mentally broken do you have to be? I work alone. I don’t do group chats, psyop cliques, or whisper networks like you rats. I drop receipts. You drop copium. Let’s see what the people think after this thread. You can’t mute the truth. You can only expose yourself by running from it. Patriot plays cover at 1:25 of 5 mins These people are sick 🔥I CHALLENGE BOTH OF YOU TO DEBATE THIS🔥 Let’s see what your audience has to say when they read and hear me speak
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People active on the app are becoming the news, and dynamics between influencers are shifting. There are negative comments being made about Alpha. It's important to use discernment because there are trolls and players who may try to manipulate the audience.
Commenters are attacking people personally instead of addressing the information. Some accuse Trump of being a pedophile protector, despite his administration subpoenaing people in the Epstein files. These commenters have been wrong before.
The goal of these attacks is to distract from the information being shared. Engaging with the comments only helps them with the algorithm, as they rely on bots. Ignoring the negativity and focusing on the mission is the best approach.
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Speaker 0: Headlines here, all of us with information and being active on the app and holding spaces. You know, we kind of are, as Hugh said, a lot of us are turning into the news. And so it's interesting to watch the dynamics in in between influencers at the moment. For instance, I don't know if you all have looked in the comments section, but Alpha, there's some pretty terrible things being said about you there.
Speaker 1: Also to, to Robert Duggan, Artemis's point hello, everybody. This is Jenny. I just wanna step in here because I'm at my day gig, but, kick in your discernment, everybody, in high gear. Because I'm gonna tell you what, you're gonna be played like a fiddle, and, you need to use your discernment. It's, it's getting wild out there.
It's spicy, but definitely kick your discernment into high gear, everybody, because there's a lot of trolls, a lot of players out there, and you're gonna start not to cheat. We haven't already been played, but we're gonna get played more on a level to where maybe some of you guys are gonna start questioning things. So just be careful, everybody.
Speaker 0: Yeah. One does yeah. We all need to be careful. And then sometimes I wonder we border on being too careful. What's being said in the comments about Alpha is quite shocking.
And I've seen a lot of social media influencers just be pummeled with a variety of attacks recently. I feel like moving forward, this needs to be Well, well,
Speaker 2: here here here pardon us. Can y'all hear me when the mic's open? Can y'all hear me? Can you.
Speaker 3: Yep. I got you, Patriot.
Speaker 2: Alright. So so the motherfuckers in the comment sections, let me tell you motherfuckers something, man. Y'all have gotten everything wrong. All y'all got this is this is my question. Y'all good at attacking people personally with which Alpha, you know, his all his stuff is public.
Right? So it's stuff that we already know. Like, literally everything. We know it all already. Right?
Alright. So so you can stop with that. But why don't y'all attack the information? I'm I'm lost. Like, you guys said that Trump was a pedal protector, and here we are right now.
The Trump administration is subpoenaing people that was fucking in the Epstein files, the real Epstein files. And you still talking and barking. You know what saying? Like, what I'd say to you guys, don't pay attention to them. They've gotten it wrong.
Alpha said this all the time. These are the same people that said the sky was falling two weeks ago. Oh, Godzilla. The same people that said when Trump did a missile strike, that he was starting World War three or an endless war. They've gotten everything wrong.
That's why they gotta attack us.
Speaker 0: My apologies. I wasn't us. Hold on.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Ever attack information. Go
Speaker 0: ahead. I didn't I didn't know that you guys had already addressed this. I haven't I've been bouncing around other topics and spaces lately, not so much political spaces. Like, I pop in every once in a while, but I just haven't I
Speaker 2: haven't You you could.
Speaker 0: You could.
Speaker 2: Because they they put it they put it in the comment section. They put it in the comment section. They put it in the comment section, but the little five four bitch that's doing it, he he he little bitch, man. I'm a just tell you straight up. Taker.
Taker.
Speaker 0: I'm not aware
Speaker 3: of any of Hold on. Hard enough. You guys.
Speaker 0: Time out. Listen. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 3: This is what they want. They want the conversation to deviate from the excellent information that was being provided to go into this. Listen. If you got shit on me, why am I still here? This is what makes them mad.
They want to make these situations personal to distract from the conversation. So to the clowns that are out there, I muted all of them. And I here's the thing. When the big account mutes you, and I'm a I would say, you know, smaller smaller, big, maybe upper medium, when they mutes you, it hurts. So if you wanna play games and do defamation, have at it.
It it you're not accomplishing anything, and this is what they want. And this is what I've told Patriot, and he's noticed the difference. They want you guys to engage with their comments because without you, they don't get the algorithm because they have nothing but bots that they've paid for. And the bots don't catch the algorithm. So they want you guys to come and try to defend me and try to defend Patriot and try to do this because that takes you your time and your efforts off the mission.
Here's the thing. The government couldn't take me down. You you think I'm worried about some wannabe so called influencers and journalists? Obviously, the information they're putting out there about me is a lie, which shows me that their level of investigation and research sucks because it's
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BREAKING🔥 @xAlphaWarriorx aka Alfredo Luna jr was discharged because he failed to report CHILD ABUSE &: •Unprofessional Relationship with a Minor: In 2018, Luna was found to have engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old GIRL. This included sending her sexually suggestive text messages and exchanging nude photographs. •Internal records confirm it was an “unprofessional relationship with a minor.” SOURCE (via Brave snapshot, cited from Desert Sun + Patch): https://patch.com/california/palmdesert/qanon-follower-ex-catcity-cop-denies-charge-extremism-probe https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/education/2021/02/08/palm-springs-unified-officer-arrested-extremist-group-investigation/4437248001/ If you are reading this and have evidence of his hypersexualized manners, with you or your children. Please reach out. I’m building something up 🧾 You are NOT alone. More to come…
QAnon Follower, Ex-CatCity Cop Denies Charge In Extremism Probe
An FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force has been investigating Alfredo Luna Jr., 41, who once worked for the police department and the PSUSD.
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Alfredo Luna Jr. aka @xAlphaWarriorx raised $160,000 to date via a political martyrdom grift after J6. 📸 Multiple photos confirm he marched with Michael Flynn on Jan 6th. He even tweeted about being “shoulder to shoulder” with Flynn. Luna was Fired in 2019 after misconduct involving a 17-year-old minor Under criminal investigation for failure to report child abuse Later charged in connection with domestic extremism 🇺🇸 Yet somehow he ends up framed as a “Patriot” and backed by a fundraiser that blew past its goal. Fair question: How much of that $ came from the same Grifter General network that props up every so-called ‘persecuted patriot’ …even when the backstory is full of red flags? Cute grift posting the little girl, I hope you never have contact with her friends when she’s slightly older. This isn’t grassroots. It’s a pipeline of compromised assets “à la Epstein.”
@EscanorReloaded - 🔥Sir Escanor (𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘶𝘮 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳)🔥
HOLY F‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ Let’s unpack how @xAlphaWarriorx lied about his January 6 arrest, covered up a weapons charge, and likely KILLED his own “brother in arms” You ready? Let’s dig in. 1. Alfredo wasn’t arrested for January 6. He was arrested on Jan 15, 2021, in connection with an illegal firearm (an unregistered AR-15) and a Gun Violence Restraining Order (GVRO). He lied in his “J6 martyr” origin story. His own court docs prove it. 2. The “illegal AR” was traced to a Cathedral City PD co-worker Luna couldn’t remember who he bought it from. Serial number wasn’t in the California database. Translation? He likely took it from a gang bust. Street gun, no paper trail. Cop privilege. Quote from FBI/JTTF: “The rifle meets the statutory definition of an assault weapon.” 3. 7 firearms found, 6 registered. One missing? A .45 SIG Sauer pistol (model P220). That’s the same caliber Luna used when he shot Jermaine Gray in 2011 his “brother” that he PIT maneuvered into a tree. He told people Gray died when ammunition in the burning car “exploded.” 📌 4. Luna faked his “J6 FBI raid” documents His fake doc says “Page 1 of 1.” The real affidavit is 2 pages, with full ATF and FBI details, ballistic descriptions, and the gun list. He posted a doctored version to support his martyrdom story. He wasn’t raided for J6. He was raided for being a 3% militia member with an unregistered AR-15. Just your average J6 hero, right? 💥 You’re looking at a corrupt ex-cop, militia member, weapons violator, liar, pervert and a possible killer. wtf H/t @PaulMuaddib61__ 🤯💥 Sources: @xAlphaWarriorx doctored document: Clearly shows 1 page of 1 Official Document (2 pages): https://copblaster.com/uploads/files/alfredo-luna-warrant.pdf
@PaulMuaddib61__ - PaulMuaddib61__
holy shit ER!! this keeps getting better and better. Alpha's whole jan 6 story is a fucking lie. from alpha "The FBI would have you believe they went to the home of a J6 Arrestee and did not record the contact in what they say is the DOJ largest investigation in American History." he wasn't arrested on jan 6. the faked the document on the left and thats why he was fired. it wasn't timesheets, it was his own search warrant. the real one is two pages. notice his says Page 1 of 1. you can clearly see the discrepancies between his and the real one. the second page is explaining the reason for the raid. he twitter posted an image holding an illegal ar-15 and someone reported him. a GVRO was issued to confiscate the illegal weapon. the serial number was not in the california data base which means he got it from one of his gang busts. (he also couldn't remember who sold it to him 🤣) the search found 6 guns registered to him. a 7th was missing. a sig 45 pistol. this is the gun he used to shoot jermaine gray after he pit manuvered him into that tree in 2011 and got rid of the evidence. remember he made the statement that the fire set off the ammunition in his car. nope @xAlphawarriorx you fucking shot him!
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@DustinNemos3 @xAlphaWarriorx There’s more coming ;)
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@Tim418385956391 @PaulMuaddib61__ @xAlphaWarriorx Receipts change the recipe. He’s human garbage
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@L0GICALOBSERVER @xAlphaWarriorx Failure to report child abuse…. I wonder why 💭
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@Phil_Reads_News @xAlphaWarriorx Pedo Simp Brigade leader
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@ESOTERIKA555 @xAlphaWarriorx @NYGiants0308 Hence why I call em “lemmings”
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@mexfinanciero @xAlphaWarriorx @MMV747 @onlydarkturtle @TheRubberDuck79 @TalkWithSally @patriotstorm17 Yes it is Apparently, they all knew he didn’t report CHILD ABUSE. And they all knew the DA said so in court. Receipts:
@EscanorReloaded - 🔥Sir Escanor (𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘶𝘮 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳)🔥
Since I make “baseless” Claims that @patriotstorm17 and all the other lemmings already “knew about” EVIDENCE: Alfredo Luna Jr. Failure to Report Child Abuse 1. Luna was under criminal investigation for failure to report child abuse •The DA’s office confirmed that Luna was under criminal investigation for failure to report child abuse while he was testifying in the 2018 Sergio Guzmán trial. •The IA investigation began April 16, 2018 and lasted until June 2018while he was still on the gang task force. •This was a direct violation of California’s mandatory reporting laws for peace officers. Primary sources: •https://thetayloraustingroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/desertsun.com-Cathedral-City-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-in-question.pdf •https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/05/09/cathedral-city-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-question/1128505001/ (Original Desert Sun article) 2. No charges filed, but Luna was fired anyway •While the investigation didn’t result in criminal charges, Luna was terminated from Cathedral City Police on Jan 7, 2019, according to then–Police Chief Travis Walker. •City Manager Charlie McClendon confirmed to The Desert Sun that Luna was fired, not resigned. •The department did not cite timecard fraud as the reason for termination. Sources: •https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/05/09/cathedral-city-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-question/1128505001/ •https://thetayloraustingroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/desertsun.com-Cathedral-City-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-in-question.pdf 3. Timecard fraud existed but was not the cause of removal •Luna’s internal file reportedly included falsified time cards, but the department explicitly stated that this was not the reason he was fired. •This misdirection has been used online to deflect from the real misconduct: failure to report child abuse. Sources: •https://patch.com/california/palmdesert/qanon-follower-ex-catcity-cop-denies-charge-extremism-probe •https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/psusd-officer-arrested-in-domestic-extremism-probe-pleads-not-guilty/2602642/ •https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/05/09/cathedral-city-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-question/1128505001/ 4. Failure to report child abuse is a crime under CA law for police •California law mandates that all peace officers are legally obligated to report any known or suspected child abuse or neglect immediately. •Failure to do so is a misdemeanor, punishable by jail time and/or fines under the Child Abuse and Neglect Reporting Act (CANRA). Sources: •https://mandatedreporter.com/blog/failure-to-report-arrests-remind-mandated-reporters-of-legal-duty/ •https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=11166.&lawCode=PEN •https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_reporting_in_the_United_States 5. Luna’s testimony during trial was compromised •In 2015, Luna testified in the Sergio Guzmán trial without disclosing he was under investigation. •This was revealed only years later raising serious questions about perjury, legal ethics, and prosecutorial misconduct. •Guzmán was later retried without Luna’s testimony and received a lighter sentence. Sources: •https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/05/09/cathedral-city-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-question/1128505001/ •https://thetayloraustingroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/desertsun.com-Cathedral-City-officer-testified-while-under-investigation-life-sentence-in-question.pdf
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QAnon Follower, Ex-CatCity Cop Denies Charge In Extremism Probe
An FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force has been investigating Alfredo Luna Jr., 41, who once worked for the police department and the PSUSD.
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PSUSD Officer Arrested in Domestic Extremism Probe Pleads Not Guilty
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A Windsor man has been charged with 'child pornography through the written word' because he was exposing sexual predators in his community and posting to his YouTube channel. Canada is cooked! https://t.co/gkoaJ0hzjr
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January 2023, 44 year old Jason Nassar of Windsor was on trial and found guilty of harassment, extortion, and producing child pornography online through his channel, Creeper Hunter TV. He claimed the aim was to catch online predators, but the Crown argued that he was playing the part of a teenage girl for his sexual gratification. There were loud and heated exchanges, and at one point Nassar told the Crown, I know you have a kid named blank. The Crown, who cannot be identified for the protection of his child, testified, It was a cold stare, calculated Online, I just didn't know what he was capable of. He continued, I had to get out of the courtroom and take a number of deep breaths. It was the first time someone mentioned my kids. The judge at the time told Nassar to maintain his composure and not to make it personal.
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Speaker 0: In January 2023, 44 year old Jason Nassar of Windsor was on trial and eventually found guilty of harassment, extortion, and producing child pornography online through his channel, Creeper Hunter TV. He claimed the aim was to catch online predators, but the Crown argued that he was playing the part of a teenage girl for his own sexual gratification. During the trial, which was turbulent at times, there were loud and heated exchanges, and at one point Nassar told the Crown, I know you have a kid named blank. The Crown, who cannot be identified for the protection of his child, testified, It was a cold stare, calculated Online, I just didn't know what he was capable of. He continued, I had to get out of the courtroom and take a number of deep breaths.
It was the first time someone mentioned my kids. The judge at the time told Nassar to maintain his composure and not to make it personal.
@EvanAKilgore - Evan Kilgore 🇺🇸
HOLY CRAP: A local TV journalist in Utah submitted a request, twice, for footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in to the police department. He was told the footage does not exist or is not available. Is this normal?? https://t.co/LozvmkJXAa
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🚨 BREAKING: Video of the alleged Brown University shooter has been RELEASED by Rhode Island authorities It’s literally someone taking CELL PHONE VIDEO of a computer screen, and all it shows is the dude casually walking away These people are WILDLY incompetent. COME ON! https://t.co/faJu3DaBhO