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How CIA propaganda works. Every American and non-American should watch this video like 25 times. Else, you're just a brainwashed dummy, regurgitating whatever rubbish that's programmed into your skull. Operation Mockingbird - John Stockwell, CIA agent explains.
Video Transcript AI Summary
The CIA has various functions, some more legitimate than others. One function is to run secret wars, while another is to disseminate propaganda to influence people's minds. They use journalists to spread both true and false stories, exploiting their vulnerabilities to control them. In the past, the CIA had around 400 journalists cooperating with them, including well-known names. An example of their manipulation is seen in the Angola war, where they planted false stories about Cuban atrocities to create an illusion of communist brutality. This shows how the CIA uses the press to further their agenda.
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Speaker 0: There are other functions, however, some of them more legitimate than others. 1 is to run secret wars. Another thing is to disseminate propaganda to influence people's minds. And this is a major function of the CIA. And, unfortunately, of course, it overlaps into the gathering of information.
You you have contact with a journalist. You will give him true stories, you'll get information from him, you'll also give him false stories. You also work on their human vulnerabilities to recruit them in a classic sense, to make them your agent so that you can control what they do. So you don't have to set them up, sort of, you know, by putting one over on them. So you can say, here, plant this this one next Tuesday.
Can you do this with responsible reporters? Yes. The church committee brought it out in 1975 and then Woodward and Bernstein put an article in Rolling Stone a couple of years later. 400 journalists cooperating with the CIA, including some of the biggest names in the business to consciously introduce the stories into the press. Well, give me a concrete example of how you use the press this way.
Well, for example, in my my war, the Angola war that I helped to manage. 1 third of my staff was propaganda. I had propagandists all over the world, principally in in London, Kinshasa, and Zambia. We were we would take stories which we would write and put them in the Zambia Times and then pull them out and send them to a a journalist on our payroll in Europe. But his cover story, you see, would be that he would he'd gotten them from his stringer in Lusaka who had gotten them from the Zambia Times.
But after that point, the journalists, Reuters and AFP, the management was not witting of it. Now our contact man in Europe was, and we pumped just just dozens of stories about Cuban atrocities, Cuban rapists, but we didn't know of 1 single atrocity committed by the Cubans. It was pure, raw false propaganda to to create an illusion of communists, you know, eating babies for breakfast.
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A journalist claims to have been trained to deceive and manipulate public opinion. Another user recommends a book that explains the role of journalists as agents of influence for intelligence services. The conversation revolves around the manipulation of narratives and the importance of understanding disinformation.
@CalliFanciulla - Péonia
🔴 Udo Ulfkotte « Je suis journaliste depuis 25 ans. J’ai été éduqué pour mentir, pour trahir, pas pour dire la vérité au public. » Cet homme est un héros. Il s'est fait passer pour un journaliste rémunéré de la #CIA, a révélé le mécanisme monstrueux par lequel il manipule la narration pour fabriquer les opinions des gens. Voici un extrait de 2017 dans lequel il parle de la guerre de l'Europe contre la Russie. Bien sûr, à l'époque, il a été qualifié de conspirationniste. Écoutez-le et vous verrez à quel point il parle clairement de ce qui allait se passer.
Video Transcript AI Summary
As a journalist for 25 years, the speaker admits to being educated to lie and manipulate the public. They express their concern about the German and American media's efforts to provoke war with Russia. The speaker reveals that journalists are bribed to betray the people and push for war. They discuss their experiences documenting the use of German poison gas in Iraq and how it was not widely reported. The speaker admits to being a non-official cover for intelligence agencies and feeling ashamed for working for a newspaper that was bribed by billionaires and the CIA. They discuss the influence of transatlantic organizations in shaping journalists' pro-American views. The speaker believes that Germany is still a colony of the United States and that journalists from various countries are manipulated by intelligence agencies. They share an example of being asked to write an article by the German foreign intelligence agency without having any secret information. The speaker emphasizes the importance of journalism being independent and not controlled by intelligence agencies. They mention facing house searches and legal accusations but are determined to reveal the truth.
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Speaker 0: Well, I've been a journalist for about 25 years. And I was educated to lie, to betray and not to tell the truth to the public. But seeing right now within the last months how far, how the German and American media tries to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia. This is a point of no return. And I stand I'm going to stand up and say, It is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia.
And it is not right what my colleagues do and have done in the past because they are bribed, to betray the people, not only in Germany, all over Europe. The reason writing this book was that I I'm very fearful of a new war in Europe, and I don't like to have the situation again because, war is never coming from itself. There is always people behind it to push for war. And this is not only politicians, this is journalists too. And I just have written in the book how we have betrayed in the past our, our readers just to push for war.
And because I don't want this anymore. I'm fed up with this propaganda. We live in a banana republic and not in a democratic country where we have press freedom, where we have human rights, when we if you see the German media, especially my colleagues who day by day ride against the Russians who are in transatlantic organizations and who are supported by the United States to do so. Well, people like me, I I got I I became honorary citizen of the state of Oklahoma in the United States. Just why?
Just because I write pro American, I wrote pro American. I was supported by the Central Intelligence Agency, by the CIA. Why? Because I should be pro American. I I'm fed up with it.
I don't wanna do it anymore. And so I've just written a book not to earn money. No, it will cause a lot of trouble for me just to give the people in this country, in Germany, in Europe and all over the world, just to give them a glimpse of a view what goes up behind the closed doors. Yes, there is many examples for that. If we go just back to history, if you go into the year 1988.
If you go to your archives, you will find in March 1988, There was, in Iraq, the Kurdish people have been gassed with poisoned gas. That is known all over the world. But in July 1988, they sent me to a town called Zubaydat that is, on the Iraqi Iranian border. There was war it was war between the Iranians the Iraqis, and I was sent there to photograph how the Iranians have been gassed with poisoned gas, with German poisoned gas. You call it lost.
And tsarien, mustard gas made by Germany. They have been gassed, and I was there to make photographs how these people, have been killed by poison gas from Germany. When I came back to Germany, there was just 1 small photo in a newspaper, in the Frankfurter Allgemeiner. And there was 1 small article not writing how impressive, brutally, how Unhuman, how terrible it was to kill, half to kill decades after the end of the Second World War, people with German poisoned gas. So this was a situation I feel misused, for having been there and just to give a documentary what has been done, but not been allowed to cry out to the world what we have done behind closed doors.
Up to today, it's not well known in the public that with German public gas, there have been hundreds or thousands of people gassed in this city of Zubaydah. Now you asked what have I done for intelligence agencies. So please see, Most of the journalists you see in foreign countries, they claim to be journalists, and they might be journalists, European or American journalists. But, many of them, like me in the past, are so called non official cover. That's what the Americans called that.
I have been a non official cover. Non official cover means what? It means you, too, work foreign intelligence agency. You help them if they want you to help them, but they will never, never, When you are locked or when they find out that you are not only a journalist but a spy, too, they will never say, oh, this was one of our guys. They will not know you.
That means non official cover. So, I have helped them in several situations. And I feel ashamed for that too now. Like I feel ashamed that I have worked for very recommended newspaper like the Frank for Terje Algemeiner because I was bribed by billionaires. I was bribed by the Americans, not to report exactly the truth.
But, I just imagined on in my car while I was driving to this interview. I I just tried to work out in my brain what would have happened if I would have written a pro Russian article in the Frankfurt algemeine. Well, I don't know what would have happened, but, we were all educated to write pro European, pro, American, but please, not pro Russian. So I'm very sorry for that, but this is not what I understand, for, democracy and for press freedom. I'm very sorry for that.
Well, yes, I understand your question very well. Germany is still a kind of a colony of the United States. You'll see that in many points. Like the majority of the Germans don't want to have nukes, in our country, but we still have American nukes. So we are still a kind of a colony of the Americans.
And being a colony, it is very easy to approach, young journalists through what is very important here is transatlantic organizations. All journalists from really respected and recommended big German newspapers, magazines, radio stations, TV stations. They are all members, our guests of those big transatlantic organizations. And there, in these transatlantic organizations, You are approached to be pro American, and there there is nobody coming to you and say, Well, we are the central intelligence agency. Would you like to work for us?
No. This is not the case how it happens. What they do, these transatlantic organizations, is they invite you for seeing the United States. They pay for that. They pay all your expenses and everything.
So you are bright. You get more and more corrupt because, they make you good contacts. You won't know that those good contacts are, let's say, nonofficial nonofficial, covers or officially people working for Central Intelligence Agency our other American agencies. So you make friends. You think they are friends, and you cooperate with them.
They ask you, well, could you do me this favor? Could you do me that favor. And, so your brain more and more is brainwashed through these guys. And, your question was, is this only the case with German journalists. Now I think it is especially the case with British journalists because they have a much closer relationship.
It is especially the case, with Israelis, of course, with French journalists for a part, not that big as with German or with British journalists. It is the case for Australian journalists, for journalists from New Zealand, from Taiwan, from well, there is many countries, countries in the Arab world, like Jordan, for example, like Oman, the Sultanate of Oman. There is many countries where this happens, Where you find people to claim they are respected journalists, but if you look behind them, you'll find they are puppets on a string of the Central Intelligence Agency. I'm sorry I'm interrupting you. I'll give you one example.
Sometimes the intelligence agencies, they come to your office and they want you to write an article. I give you an example not from strange other journalists from me myself. I've just forgotten the year. I just remember that, the German foreign intelligence. It is just, a sister organization of the Central Intelligence Agency.
It was founded by the American intelligence agency. So one day, the BND, this German foreign intelligence agency, came to my office at the Frankfurt Algemeiner in Frankfurt. And they wanted me to write an article about Libya and about Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. I had absolutely no secret informations regarding Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and Libya, but they gave me all these secret informations. And they just wanted me to write to sign the article with my name.
I did that, but it was an article, that was published in the Frankfurt Allgemeiner that originally came from the, Bundesnachtheslied, from the German Freund Intelligence Agency. So do you really think that this is journalism intelligence agencies writing articles? Oh, yes, that article, I have reprinted it partly in my book. That article was, how Libya and Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, how he secretly tried to build a poison gas factory, I think, Enraptor was the name, yeah? And I got all those informations.
It it was a story that was printed worldwide, 2 days later. But I had no information on that. It was the intelligence agency that wanted me to write this article. So but this is not the way journalism should work, that intelligence agencies that they decide what is printed and what not. If I say no, I give you an example from, a very good example if you say no.
Well, we have a rescue unit in Germany with helicopters for traffic accidents. It's called they call themselves the yellow angels. There was 1 guy who, who didn't want to cooperate, and he was a pilot of the helicopter service of the Yellow Angels in Germany. This guy said no to the foreign intelligence service, Bundesnacheschendienst, when they approached him and wanted him as a non official cover to work for, the German foreign intelligence agency, and just to pretend to be somebody from, the Yellow Angels. So what happened was that he lost his job.
And the court in Germany, the judge decided that they were right because such a guy could not be trusted. He was kicked off his job because he didn't cooperate with the foreign intelligence service. So I knew what happened if I would not cooperate with intelligence services. Well, I have had, let me say, 6 times, my house was house searched because I was accused by the public prosecutor, the German public prosecutor. I was accused of leaking states leaking secrets of states.
6 times house searched. Well, they hoped that I wouldn't do that ever again. But, I think it's worth that, the truth will come out one day. The truth won't die. And, I don't mind what will happen.
I've had 3 heart attacks. I have no children. So if they want to bring me to court or to prison, so it's worth
@spe56912 - UnknownSpecies
@CalliFanciulla Le livre Le Montage de Vladimir Volkoff permet de comprendre l'importance des journalistes comme agents d'influence de l'opinion au profit de services de renseignement. Les principes de désinformation y sont clairement expliqués. https://www.lagedhomme.com/ouvrages/vladimir+volkoff/le+montage/1209
Le montage -
Vladimir Volkoff
Le montage -
Vladimir Volkoff
Roman aventureux, sinon d'aventures, roman d'initiation aussi, Le Montage peut être considéré comme un cri d'alerte et une contribution à la connaisance du grand public, à certains mécanismes d'intoxication, de désinformation et d'influence.
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@RaymondZino - ZNO 🇺🇸
Are you paying attention yet? The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion - Yuri Bezmenov (1984)
Video Transcript AI Summary
The speaker discusses the process of ideological subversion, which aims to change Americans' perception of reality so they cannot defend themselves or their country. This brainwashing process occurs over four stages: demoralization, education of generations with enemy ideology, the rise of those graduates to positions of power, and the inability to change their mindset. The speaker predicts that those who have been programmed will eventually revolt against the Marxist Leninist regime. They also mention that the demoralization process in the United States is already complete due to a lack of moral standards. The speaker warns that unless a new generation is educated, it will take 15 to 20 years to restore patriotism. The next stages are destabilization, crisis, and normalization, which could lead to a government with dictators and the elimination of free market competition. The speaker emphasizes that the United States is in a state of war against its own principles and foundations. They urge Americans to wake up before it's too late.
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Speaker 0: The other 85% is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing, process, which goes very slow, and it's divided in 4 basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation.
Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years, which requires to, educate 1 generation of students in the country of of of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxist Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of, of, of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism. The result, the result you can see, most of the people who graduated in sixties, dropouts, or half baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them.
You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.
In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rid society of these people, you have you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and and and, common common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interest of the, of the United States society.
Speaker 1: And yet these people who've been programmed, and as you say, in place and who are favorable to An opening with the Soviet concept. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country.
Speaker 0: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when when they will see in future what the what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously, they will revolt. They they they will, they they will be very unhappy, frustrated people. And the Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. They, obviously, they will join the links of dissenters dissidents.
Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in in future Marxist Leninist America. Here, you can you can get popular, like, Daniel Ellsberg, and filthy rich, like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This, they don't understand, and, it will be greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years. Actually, it's overfulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously, not even Comrad von Drokhov and and all his experts would would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.
The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he he's going to receive a kick in the in his fat bottom. When a military boot crashes his then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization.
So, basically, America is stuck with with demoralization. And unless, Even if if you start right now here, this minute, you start educating new generation of Americans. It will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of, of ideological perception of reality, back to normal normalcy and and, patriotism. The next stage is destabilization. This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption.
Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flab, it doesn't matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. It's what what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as as, defense and economy, the influence of Marxist Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed, in this part of the world, that the process will go that fast.
The next stage, of course, is crisis. It it may take only up to 6 weeks to to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now. And after crisis with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have so called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely.
Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 68, comrade Brezhnev said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all the schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on earth, to to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition and to put a big brother government in Washington DC with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of thing, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of of new generation of Soviet assassins. Never mind.
He will create false illusions that the situation is under control. Situation is not under control. Situation is disgustingly out of control. Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime, falls. United States is in the state of war, undeclared total war against the basic principles, and the foundations of of this system.
And and the initiator of this war is not Comrade Dondropov, of course. It's it's the system. However ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If if you are not scared by now, Nothing can scare you.
But you don't have to be paranoid about it. What what actually happens now that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. That the time bomb is ticking. With every 2nd, the disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in nontactical opinions.
This is it. This is the last country of freedom and and possibility.
@hodgetwins - Hodgetwins
People need to listen to Yuri Bezmenov. He was a KGB defector that explained how marxists brainwash people. Looking at where we’re at now, he was right
Video Transcript AI Summary
The speaker discusses the process of ideological subversion, which aims to change Americans' perception of reality so they cannot defend themselves or their country. This brainwashing process occurs over four stages: demoralization, where Marxist ideology is taught to generations of American students; destabilization, which focuses on the economy and defense systems; crisis, which brings about a violent change in power; and normalization, where false promises and a big brother government take control. The speaker warns that the United States is in a state of undeclared total war against its own principles, and unless the country wakes up, disaster is imminent.
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Speaker 0: The other 85% is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing, process, which goes very slow, and it's divided in 4 basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation.
Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years, which requires to, educate 1 generation of students in the country of of of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxist Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of, of, of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism. The result, the result you can see, most of the people who graduated in sixties, dropouts, or half baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them.
You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.
In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rid society of these people, you have you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and and and, common common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interest of the, of the United States society.
Speaker 1: And yet these people who've been programmed, and as you say, in place and who are favorable to An opening with the Soviet concept. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country.
Speaker 0: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when when they will see in future what the what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously, they will revolt. They they they will, they they will be very unhappy, frustrated people. And the Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. They, obviously, they will join the links of dissenters dissidents.
Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in in future Marxist Leninist America. Here, you can you can get popular, like, Daniel Ellsberg, and filthy rich, like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This, they don't understand, and, it will be greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years. Actually, it's overfulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously, not even Comrad von Drokhov and and all his experts would would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.
The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he he's going to receive a kick in the in his fat bottom. When a military boot crashes his then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization.
So, basically, America is stuck with with demoralization. And unless, Even if if you start right now here, this minute, you start educating new generation of Americans. It will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of, of ideological perception of reality, back to normal normalcy and and, patriotism. The next stage is destabilization. This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption.
Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flab, it doesn't matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. It's what what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as as, defense and economy, the influence of Marxist Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed, in this part of the world, that the process will go that fast.
The next stage, of course, is crisis. It it may take only up to 6 weeks to to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now. And after crisis with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have so called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely.
Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 68, comrade Brezhnev said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all the schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on earth, to to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition and to put a big brother government in Washington DC with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of thing, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of of new generation of Soviet assassins. Never mind.
He will create false illusions that the situation is under control. Situation is not under control. Situation is disgustingly out of control. Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime, falls. United States is in the state of war, undeclared total war against the basic principles, and the foundations of of this system.
And and the initiator of this war is not Comrade Dondropov, of course. It's it's the system. However ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If if you are not scared by now, Nothing can scare you.
But you don't have to be paranoid about it. What what actually happens now that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. That the time bomb is ticking. With every 2nd, the disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in nontactical opinions.
This is it. This is the last country of freedom and and possibility.
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Title: Understanding the Subversion of Democratic Societies
In this article, we explore the process of subverting a democratic society in four steps, based on the insights of Russian KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov. The strategy involves demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization. Subversion targets various aspects of society, such as family, religion, education, and defense. While it is crucial to acknowledge the potential risks, it is also important to consider the limitations and evolving nature of these strategies. Vigilance and a strong adherence to democratic values can serve as a defense against subversion.
@mfphhh - Pedro
Wie funktioniert Zersetzung / Subversion einer demokratischen Gesellschaft? Kurz-Anleitung in 4 Schritten 🧵 Als Diskussions-Grundlage für alle, die sich für den Erhalt der freiheitlich-demokratischen Grundordnung einsetzen. [Meine Vorbehalte und Einschätzung dazu am Ende] 1/28 https://t.co/rTQYPXPCIl
@mfphhh - Pedro
Der russische KGB-Überläufer Yuri Bezmenov machte Anfang der 80er Jahre KGB-Strategien zur Zersetzung von Staaten publik. Durch den Zusammenbruch der UdSSR wurden seine Warnungen nicht mehr ernst genommen. Man sollte sie trotzdem kennen. 2/28 https://t.co/1DypHjEwV4
@mfphhh - Pedro
Die Strategie basiert auf chinesischen Strategemen und der Kriegslist von Sunzi (Kunst des Krieges). Es sei besser, einen Feind zu täuschen, dass er dich nicht für seinen Gegner hält, um ihn dann innerlich zu entzweien und zu zersetzen, als ihn offen militärisch zu bekämpfen 3/28 https://t.co/epO6ztqGF5
@mfphhh - Pedro
Laut Bezmenov ist Subversion eine Form von Kommunikation. Es braucht Opfer, die bereit dazu sind: offene Gesellschaften, die Austausch für erstrebenswert halten. Autokratien schotten sich gegen Subversion ab, da sie sich der Gefahr bewusst sind. Aber wie funktioniert es? 4/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Phase 1: DEMORALISIERUNG Diese Phase kann bis zu 20 Jahre dauern. Ziel: Die Werte des anzugreifen Landes umzudrehen. Positive Werte schlecht zu reden und negative Entwicklungen zu relativieren oder positiv umzudeuten. 5/28 https://t.co/BcjEdFWR0o
@mfphhh - Pedro
Hier nutzt der Angreifer bereits im Zielland vorhandene Gruppen und negative Erscheinungen, die durch finanzielle und mediale Unterstützung und eigene Agenten in eine negative Richtung umgelenkt und verstärkt werden. 6/28 https://t.co/CsiGC3PH9S
@mfphhh - Pedro
Laut Bezmenov war im kalten Krieg die Aufgabe der Mehrheit der KGB-Agenten im Ausland nicht Spionage oder Sabotage, sondern gesellschaftliche Zersetzung/ Subversion, durch Infiltration/Manipulation. Methoden, welche der Sicherheitsapparat in Russland heute noch kennt. 7/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Subversion kann alle Bereiche und Werte einer Gesellschaft angreifen: Familie, Religion, Arbeitswelt, Bildung, soziale Bewegungen, Landesverteidigung. Vorgehensweise: -Schädliche Entwicklungen pushen. -Positive Entwicklungen stören/behindern. 8/28 https://t.co/CyuVlvCTIk
@mfphhh - Pedro
Nützliche Institutionen werden diffamiert, schädliche oder unqualifizierte Akteure werden positiv dargestellt/relativiert. Bürger werden von positivem Verhalten abgebracht, entmutigt und demobilisiert. Hoffnungen werden zerstört, diffuse Unsicherheit geschürt. 9/28 https://t.co/54iG8xh0Xy
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Gregor Gysi accuses Sahra Wagenknecht of wanting to adopt the AfD's refugee policy. He argues that Germany is overwhelmed by the current influx of migrants, which has negative consequences for long-term residents. Gysi believes it is unsustainable to continue accepting hundreds of thousands of people each year. He criticizes the lack of problem-solving in politics and expresses disappointment that the AfD has gained influence. However, he acknowledges that other parties are now addressing the issue of reducing uncontrolled migration, which has become a mainstream concern.
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Speaker 0: Ihr Ex Parteikollege Gregor Gysi sagt, Sahra Wagenknecht will Flüchtlingspolitik der AfD machen. Hat er da recht? Es geht darum, dass wir einfach überfordert sind und dass ein Migrationszustrom, so wie wir ihn jetzt haben, auch in den letzten Jahren, in Deutschland zu ganz Negativen Folgen für viele Menschen, die schon lange hier leben, führen. Da können wir doch nicht jedes Jahr noch Hunderttausende Menschen aufnehmen. Was wie soll die Situation sich Sich noch mehr zuspitzen.
Wir brauchen eine Politik, die wirklich auch Probleme löst und Sie tun's ja nicht. Also ich hab ja auch die Hoffnung, Das ist ja, sieht man bei anderen Themen ja auch. Also ich mein, das ist ja das, was die AFD für sich in Anspruch nehmen kann. Sie hat natürlich schon jetzt geschafft, was Ich schade finde, dass man das der AFD überlassen hat. Aber dadurch, dass sie stärker wurde, ist jetzt endlich die Frage, wie reduzieren wir die Zahl auch der Der der Migranten, wie reduzieren wir die unkontrollierte Migration natürlich in die anderen Parteien reingekommen.
Jetzt ist das inzwischen fast schon Mainstream.
@mfphhh - Pedro
Phase 2: DESTABILISIERUNG Ziele: -Zerstörung von Vertrauen in die der gesellschaftlichen Verhandlungsprozesse. -Radikalisierung /Spaltung von Beziehungen auf allen Ebenen -lange schwelende Konflikte eskalieren und zuspitzen, bis sie nicht mehr durch Aushandeln lösbar sind 10/28 https://t.co/QFLo07bbYL
@mfphhh - Pedro
Das wird erreicht z.B. durch -Schwächung staatlicher / gesellschaftlicher Institutionen. -Schläfer/Agenten werden Anführer neuer politischer Bewegungen und beginnen zerstörerischer Prozesse: Entwicklung hin zu totalen Polarisierung und Spaltung. 11/28 https://t.co/I7fk18w5E7
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Welcome to the new episode of Wagenknecht's Weekly Review. This show combines satire and political self-promotion as the speaker mocks other parties and politicians. They criticize the SPD leader Esken and her two years of coalition politics, while also taking a swipe at Özdemir. The speaker reads from a teleprompter with a hint of disdain for politics. Surprisingly, they are more lenient towards the AfD, even seeming to court their voters. The speaker believes that the way the AfD is criticized is often exaggerated and biased, suggesting that the desire for stricter migration policies is only seen as radical from a green woke perspective. Ultimately, the speaker's main opponent seems to be the "green woke" ideology, rather than the AfD or the Union.
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Speaker 0: Herzlich willkommen zur neuen Folge der besseren Zeiten Wagenknechts Wochenschau.
Speaker 1: Es folgt eine Mischung aus Kabarett und politischer Eigenwerbung. Voller Hohn spricht sie über die anderen Parteien und Politiker, macht sie lächerlich, zu Kaspern.
Speaker 0: Die beeindruckende SPD Vorsitzende Esken nach zwei Jahren Ampelpolitik, wer kann sich denn da noch sicher fühlen? Da holt Onkel Özdemir den Rohrstock raus.
Speaker 1: Alles Deppen außer Sara, ein Hauch von Politikverachtung, zumindest von Politikherrverachtung, abgelesen vom Teleprompter.
Speaker 0: Ja, jetzt haben Sie das, jetzt ist es nämlich verwackelt.
Speaker 1: Etwas nachsichtiger ist sie hingegen mit der AfD, besonders mit deren Wählern. Manchmal wirkt es, als biedere sie sich bei denen ganz gezielt an.
Speaker 0: Die Art, wie man sich mit der AfD auseinandersetzt, ist in der Regel so unsachlich, so überzogen, rechts Radikal ist der Wunsch nach einer restriktiveren Migrationspolitik allenfalls aus dem Blickwinkel der grün woken Meinungsblase.
Speaker 1: Den Begriff benutzt sie obsessiv. Ihr Hauptgegner, so scheint es mir, ist nicht die AFD, nicht die Union. Es sind die Grün Woken.
@mfphhh - Pedro
Phase 3: KRISE Da Konflikte unlösbar sind, arbeiten legitime Machtstrukturen wie Verwaltung, Polizei und die Sozialstruktur nicht mehr produktiv und kollabieren. -Nicht gewählte / unlegitimierte Gruppen erlangen die Deutungshoheit. -Die Bevölkerung sehnt sich nach Ordnung 12/28 https://t.co/ZUAhz2BQEw
@mfphhh - Pedro
Sehnsucht nach einem starken Retter / Führer als Ausweg aus der Krise wächst. - Eingedrungene bzw. medial hochgepushte Akteure beanspruchen Macht und Kontrolle. - Wenn ihnen diese Kontrolle verweigert wird, nehmen sie sich diese mit allen Mitteln, notfalls auch mit Gewalt 13/28 https://t.co/1vgskPQqyP
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Speaker 0 emphasizes the importance of a strong result in the European elections to bring about change in German politics. Speaker 1 criticizes the author's book, claiming it appeals to those who feel culturally left behind. Speaker 2 argues against blindly opposing the AfD and highlights the increase in Russian gas imports due to the rejection of pipeline gas. Speaker 1 further criticizes the author's tendency to label things as absurd and portrays the people as deceived by a corrupt elite. The audience expresses admiration and a desire to engage with the author. Speaker 1 offers support and Speaker 2 compares the author to Christiane Ronaldo.
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Speaker 0: Beispielsweise ist es ja wirklich wichtig, dass wir bei der Europawahl ein sehr starkes Ergebnis bekommen, weil ich sehr überzeugt bin, dass
Speaker 1: Machen, das ist doch gar nicht Ihr Interesse.
Speaker 0: Nein, unser Interesse ist natürlich in der Bundesrepublik und im Bundestag Politik zu machen und hier die Verhältnisse zu verändern.
Speaker 1: Ihre Fans kommen in Scharen. Ihr Buch liest sich in Teilen wie ein Manifest der Achtziger- oder gar Fünfzigerjahre, als Deutschland noch unbehelligt war von aktivistischen Klimaschützern, Transmenschen und anderen skurrilen Minderheiten, wie sie schreibt. Vom Gendern sowieso. Wagenknecht nimmt sehr geschickt die Emotionen von Menschen auf, die sich kulturell abgehängt fühlen. Präsentiert in einer teils ostpeitschenden Sprache, gespickt mit Empörungsvokabeln.
Speaker 2: Also wenn die AFD sagt, der Himmel ist blau, Müssen also alle ehrlichen Demokraten behaupten, er sei grün, weil sie sonst AfD nah sind. Das ist doch absurd. Ich Ich meine, die russischen Flüssiggasimporte in Europa haben sich vervielfacht, seit wir so blöd sind, dass wir kein Pipelinegas mehr haben wollen. Also Kann man machen, ist aber nicht klug.
Speaker 1: Bei ihr können Dinge nicht einfach mal falsch sein. Sie sind mindestens blöd, absurd, Oft völlig absurd. Und oft geht es darum, dass die einfachen Menschen von einer korrupten oder strunzdummen Clique da oben angeblich bewusst hinter die Fichte geführt werden. Die Menschen hier sind begeistert. Nach der Lesung möchten viele mit ihr ins Gespräch kommen.
Speaker 2: Hi. Ich bin wegen dem D-Fuist bei DIE LINKE eingetreten. Müssen Sie sagen, Sie mir, wenn Sie DIE LINKE wieder verlassen werden, komm ich auch wieder mit. Haben Sie überhaupt die Ach, schon mit dabei. Schnee.
Warum nicht?
Speaker 1: So viel Bewunderung habe ich bei Politikern ehrlich gesagt noch nie erlebt, zumindest in Deutschland nicht.
Speaker 2: Ich möchte Ihnen meine Sympathie entgegenbringen. Ich hab Ihnen auch einen Brief in den Bundestag geschrieben. Ah, danke. Schönen Dank.
Speaker 1: Falls Sie irgendeinen Job für mich haben, ich biete Ihnen jegliche Unterstützung an.
Speaker 2: Sie sind mein Christiane Ronaldo.
@mfphhh - Pedro
Phase 4 "NORMALISIERUNG" - Die neuen Herrscher brauchen keine Revolution und keinen Radikalismus mehr. - Die Destabilisierung wird zurückgenommen. - Die infiltrieren Gruppen/Unruhestifter, die das Land vorher destabilisiert hatten, werden jetzt als erste eliminiert. 14/28 https://t.co/0i8qLExwsw
@mfphhh - Pedro
- Die neuen Machthaber etablieren "Stabilität", um das Land auszubeuten. - Freiheiten und Grundrechte werden entzogen. Die Polarisierung wird jetzt aufgelöst, Einigkeit von Volk und neuer Führung betont. Abweichler bekämpft. 15/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Soweit die Theorie der Zersetzungsstrategie des KGB im kalten Krieg. Für die Debatte, ob solche Prozesse heute auch bei uns laufen, füge ich 4 Vorbehalte an der Anwendbarkeit dieser Theorie auf heutige Vorgänge an: 16/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Vorbehalt 1: Wirksamkeit? Auch wenn Bezmenov Beispiele von Staaten nennt, wo der KGB das Verfahren angeblich erfolgreich umsetzte z.B. Bangladesch, gelang es dem KGB z.B. nicht, wie von Bezmenov vorhergesagt die USA zum Kommunismus zu subvertieren. Es gab dort Resilienz. 17/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Vorbehalt 2: Verschwörungserzählung vs. Eigenverantwortung Ich bin vorsichtig, hinter allen negativen Entwicklungen bei uns finstere feindliche Mächte zu suchen. An vielen negativen Entwicklungen tragen wir erst einmal eine Eigenverantwortung. oft gilt einfach occams razor 18/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Problematisch werden Erzählungen über Verschwörung feindlicher Mächte, wenn man dadurch eigenes notwendiges Umdenken und Handeln unterlässt und eigene Verantwortung abgibt, weil man ja gegen die eingebildeten "höheren Mächte" eh nichts ausrichten könne. 19/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Vorbehalt 3: Die Person Bezmenov Da er selbst zugab, sein Leben lang gelogen zu haben, fällt er unter das Lügnerparadoxon. Tatsächlich rutschte er in eine üble rechtsextreme Verschwörungslügner-Bubble ab. Raunte antisemitisch von Bankenverschwörungen, die nie eintraten. 20/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Vorbehalt 4: strategische Weiterentwicklung Bezmenov beschreibt Strategien der UdSSR der 1970er Jahre. Russland, Iran und China werden ihre Zersetzungsstrategien heute verfeinert und angepasst haben. Ziele sind weniger direkte Eroberung, eher Schwächung und Beeinflussung. 21/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Die Vorbehalte im Hinterkopf behaltend sollten wir die Gefahr der Zersetzung trotzdem ernst nehmen. Sie ist asymmetrisch: Autokratien schotten sich dagegen ab durch Verbote von Medien/Organisationen - offene Demokratien sind dafür empfänglich. Es gibt keine Waffengleichheit 22/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Es gibt viele aktuelle Entwicklungen, z.B. Greta Thunbergs Antisemitismus oder das Aufkeimen rechtsextremer, prorussischer Parteien in Europa, bei denen wir zumindest prüfen sollten, wie weit Einflusskampagnen und Subversion von außen eine Rolle spielen könnten. 23/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Was ist das Gegengift gegen Subversion? Indem eine Gesellschaft bei Phase 1 "Demoralisierung" schon dagegenhält und ihre Grundwerte nicht preisgibt. Sara Wagenknecht beanstandet das z.B. als „Moralisieren“ der Grünen. Moral – ist das etwas negatives, nerviges? 24/28 https://t.co/3HpIgUx3LQ
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I dislike the Green Party more than the CDU because of their moral superiority and indifference towards social issues. They claim to be morally superior and better people, which annoys me and many others. This is why the Green Party is unpopular. I believe we are handling the AFD incorrectly. Not everyone in the AFD is a Nazi, including Alice. We should differentiate and engage in more meaningful discussions instead of running exaggerated campaigns.
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Speaker 0: Stimmt das, dass Ihre Abneigung gegenüber den Grünen stärker ist als, sagen wir, gegenüber der CDU? Was mich bei den Grünen besonders nervt, ist wirklich dieses diese moralische Aufgeblasenheit. Und bei den Grünen kommt beides zusammen. Also die wirkliche Gleichgültigkeit gegenüber sozialen Problemen, die dann noch auf aufgehübscht wird durch diese Gestus, wir sind aber doch die besseren Menschen, wir sind moralisch, wir sind die Guten. Und das nervt mich, aber ich glaube, es nervt eben auch ganz viele Menschen, deswegen sind die Grünen so unbeliebt.
Ich finde die Art, wie wir uns mit der AFD auseinandersetzen, falsch. Weil natürlich ist Alice beide kein Nazi. Und es gibt in der AFD Nazis, aber trotzdem heißt das nicht, dass jeder in der AFD solche Positionen vertritt. Und ich finde, wir sollten differenzieren wir sollten uns zum Beispiel auch viel stärker auseinandersetzen und nicht diese Art Kampagnen betreiben, die auch wirklich überzogen sind.
@mfphhh - Pedro
Wagenknecht argumentiert selbst moralisierend, indem sie anderen Parteien unterstellt, denen wären Bürger egal. Auf der anderen Seite diffamiert sie andere Parteien als „Gutmenschen“, wenn diese ihre Entscheidungen moralisch begründen. Die AfD versucht sie zu normalisieren 25/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
Der Vorwurf ist an die Grünen ist nicht, die falschen Moralvorstellungen zu haben, oder ihre Werte nicht wirklich zu vertreten. Sondern die ethische Argumentation der Grünen zu politischen Fragen an sich „nervt“. Ethik nevt, wo „Realpolitik“ „schlauer, vorteilhafter“ wäre. 26/28 https://t.co/JmZfZqR4dS
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The speaker criticizes the use of extreme vocabulary to describe the government, such as "absurd" and "dumbest government in Europe." The other speaker agrees that not all criticisms can be justified but questions if the Hungarian government under Viktor Orbán is smarter than the German government. They acknowledge that they disagree with Orbán's policies but recognize that he prioritizes the interests of his country, such as importing cheaper Russian oil and gas. The speaker concludes that while they don't have to like Orbán, they understand his decision to act in the best interest of Hungary.
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Speaker 0: Kritisieren ist doch vollkommen richtig als Oppositionspolitikerin, gilt auch für uns Journalistinnen und Journalisten. Was mir wirklich aufgefallen ist, sind diese so Vokabeln, die noch mal zwei, drei Nummern weitergehen, wie völlig absurd, dümmste Regierung Europas, so haben Sie die Regierung dargestellt.
Speaker 1: Ja, aber es ist doch so. Also wenn Die Bundesregierung. Also ich find, gut, jetzt kann man nicht alle durchgehen, aber Ist die
Speaker 0: Regierung von Viktor Orbán in Ungarn schlauer als die Bundesregierung?
Speaker 1: Ich lehne vieles von dem ab, was Viktor Orbán vertritt inhaltlich. Aber er hat natürlich in bestimmten Fragen eher die Christen seines Landes im Auge. Also der importiert nach wie vor russisches Öl in Größenordnung, ich glaube auch russisches Gas, weil das einfach billiger ist als das, was er woanders bekäme. Und ich muss Viktor Orbán nicht gut finden, zu sagen, es ist einfach im Interesse seines Landes klüger in dieser Richtung, was er macht.
@mfphhh - Pedro
Wir sollten dann aufmerken, wenn moralische Werte in Frage gestellt und diffamiert werden. Und gleichzeitig versucht wird, unmoralisch agierende Akteure zu normalisieren. Weil jede Zersetzungsstrategie genau da beginnt. Danke an @AlexKohler1 mich auf dieses Thema zu stoßen 27/28
@mfphhh - Pedro
@AlexKohler1 Ein weiteres interessantes Beispiel, bei dem Subversionsstrategien durchaus eine Rolle spielen könnten, ist der Einfluss russischer Wissenschaftler auf die westliche akademische Debatte, z.B. zur Geschichte und Kultur von Russland und Ukraine: 28/28 https://t.co/0JJdJyJThz
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The media claims that Trump attempted insurrection, but it was actually a riot due to failed security. Claims to save democracy by destroying it stem from mass psychosis after years of brainwashing. The Colorado Supreme Court ruling on Trump's ballot eligibility highlights the importance of protecting our democracy. The January 6 propaganda convinced half the country of a false narrative. The successful media propaganda led to increased support for government censorship.
@shellenberger - Michael Shellenberger
We must prevent people from voting for Trump because he attempted insurrection, the media say. But he didn't. January 6 was a riot from failed security, not a coup attempt. Claims that we must save democracy by destroying it stem from mass psychosis after years of brainwashing. https://t.co/Iv8Xjeuobn
@shellenberger - Michael Shellenberger
Hatred, Brainwashing, And Mass Psychosis Behind Democrats' War On Democracy We have to break the hypnotic trance destroying our country by @shellenberger You no doubt saw the news that the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that Trump cannot be on the ballot because he attempted insurrection on January 6. You might have paid little attention to it because you heard that the US Supreme Court would overrule the decision, and the holidays were coming up. But we should all pay attention, no matter your feelings about Trump, because what is at stake is nothing less than our democracy itself. Before saying why I think that is, it’s important for you to know something:
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The Colorado Supreme Court ruled that Trump cannot be on the ballot due to his involvement in the January 6th insurrection. Some may have overlooked this news assuming the US Supreme Court would overturn the decision, especially with the holidays approaching. However, it is crucial for everyone, regardless of their political beliefs, to pay attention because our democracy is at stake.
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Speaker 0: Hey, everyone. You probably saw the news that the Colorado Supreme Court recently ruled that Trump cannot be on the ballot because he attempted insurrection on January 6th. You might have paid little attention to it because you heard that the US Supreme Court would overrule the decision, and the holidays were coming up, and you've probably been busy. But we should all pay attention no matter your politics because what's at stake is nothing less than our democracy itself. Now before saying why I think this is, I wanna
@shellenberger - Michael Shellenberger
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@shellenberger - Michael Shellenberger
I am sorry I did not speak up earlier against the January 6 propaganda. I thought the claims that it was a coup attempt were too ridiculous to be believed. I was wrong. Three years of relentless disinformation from state-controlled media convinced half the country that it was something it wasn't. Here's a thorough debunking of the nonsense by @ZaidJilani & @galexybrane that I wish I had published years earlier. Please share it with brainwashed friends and family and attempt to de-program them before they abolish our democracy. https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1737541647343526200?s=20
@shellenberger - Michael Shellenberger
Years Of Planning Behind Democrats’ Turn Against Democracy War on Trump shows that the most dangerous people are often those who consider themselves incapable of evil by @ZaidJilani & @galexybrane Donna Brazile (left), John Podesta (center), and Rosa Brooks (right) led a 2020…
@shellenberger - Michael Shellenberger
It’s shocking how well the media propaganda worked. Democrats went from 40% to 70% support for government censorship between 2018 and 2023. The last five years will be remembered as one of the most successful disinformation and brainwashing efforts in modern history. https://t.co/vbS4P1cWsg
@WeAreWoke1776_3 - We Have It All
There’s 4 stages to Destroying a country. Ideological subversive demoralization has been extremely active in past years. Where do you think we’re currently at, at this point in time? Have you fallen victim to it? Do you recognize the theater of it all now? #5GWar #PsycologicalWar https://t.co/CPNG6BZB7b
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The speaker discusses ideological subversion, which refers to the slow process of changing Americans' perception of reality so that they cannot make sensible conclusions to defend themselves or their country. This brainwashing process has four stages: demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization. The demoralization stage has already been completed in the United States over the past 25 years, thanks to the lack of moral standards. Exposure to true information no longer matters as demoralized individuals are unable to assess it. The destabilization stage focuses on essentials like the economy and defense systems, while the crisis stage brings a country to the verge of collapse. The period of normalization can last indefinitely and involves the establishment of a big brother government.
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Speaker 0: Well, you spoke several times before about ideological subversion. That is a phrase that, I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand. When, the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by it?
Speaker 1: Ideological subversion is is the slow process, Which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of the KGB, Or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American To such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions In the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing process, Which goes very slow and it's divided in, in 4 basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 Yes.
To demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to Educate 1 generation of students in the country of of of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students Without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism, The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years. Actually, it's overfulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously, not even Comradhan Dropov and and all his experts would Would even dream of such a tremendous success.
Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, Thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force The Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he he's going to receive a kick in the in his fat bottom.
When a military boot crashes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization. The next stage is destabilization. This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your Consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flab, it doesn't matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation.
It's what matters is essentials. Economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as defense And economy. The influence of Marxist Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed, in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.
The next stage, of course, is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now. And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure, and economy, you have so called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely.
Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 68, comrade Brezhnev said, Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these schmucks To bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on Earth, to To destabilize your, economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government In Washington, DC with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of thing, Never mind whether the promises are fulfillable or not. Your leftists in United States, all these professors And all this beautiful civil rights defender, they are instrumental in the process of the, of the, subversion only To destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not they are not needed anymore.
They know too much. Some of them, When they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist Lenin has come to power, obviously, they get offended. They think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot, but they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist Leninists when they come to And that's what happened in Nicaragua.
You remember most of these, former Marxist Leninists were either put to prison or one of them and now he's working against Sandinistas. It happened in in, Grenada when Maurice Bischoff was he was already a Marxist. He was executed by by a new Marxist who was more Marxist than this Marxist. Same happened in Afghanistan when, first there was Taraki. He was killed by Amin.
Then Amin was Killed by Babrakar Khanal with the help of KGB. Same happened in in Bangladesh when Mujibur Rahman, very pro Soviet leftist, Was assassinated by his own Marxist Leninist military comrades. Is
@PatriotPraetori - UltraMAGA-ThreeSixNine
The Four Steps of Subversion. Get to know them. 1. Demoralization 2. Destabilization 3. CRISIS* 4. Normalization We have been Subverted. Yuri Bezmenov - KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov's warning to America 1984 https://t.co/b6Kf2cVa8Q
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The speaker discusses ideological subversion by the Soviets, emphasizing the slow brainwashing process in America through demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization. He warns of the impending danger of socialism and communism, urging education and action to prevent the destruction of freedom. The solution lies in stopping aid to the Soviet regime and understanding the state of war America is in. The speaker stresses the need for real patriotism and awareness of the threat posed by the Soviet military-industrial complex.
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Speaker 0: Well, you spoke several times before about ideological subversion. That is a phrase that, I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand. When, the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by it?
Speaker 1: Ideological subversion is is the process which is legitimate, overt, and open. You you can see it with your own eyes. All all you have to do, all American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes, and they can see it. There's no mystery. There's nothing to do with espionage.
I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising, probably. That's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such.
The other 85% is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of of the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing, process, which goes very slow, and it's divided in in 4 basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation.
Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to, educate 1 generation of students in the country of of of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxist Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of of of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism. The result the result you can see, most of the people who graduated in sixties, dropouts or half baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them.
You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you if you expose them to authentic information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black. You still cannot change the basic perception and the logical behavior.
In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rid society of these people, you have you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of of the, of the United States society.
Speaker 0: And yet these people who have been programmed and, as you say, in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept, Mhmm. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country.
Speaker 1: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when when they will see in future what the what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously, they will revolt. They they they will, they they will be very unhappy, frustrated people. And the Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. They, obviously, they will join the links of dissenters, dissidents.
Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in in future Marxist Leninist America. Here, you can you can get popular, like, Daniel Ellsberg and Filthy Rich, like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This, they don't understand, and, it will be greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years. Actually, it's overfulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Dondropov and and all his experts would would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.
The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he he's going to receive a kick in the in his fat bottom. When a military boot crashes his then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization. So, basically, America is stuck with with demoralization.
And unless even if if you start right now, here, this minute, you start educating new generation of American, it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of, of ideological perception of reality, back to normal normalcy and and, patriotism. The next stage is destabilization. This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and fluff, it doesn't matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation.
It's what what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as as, defense and economy. The influence of Marxist Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed, in this part of the world that the process will go that fast. The next stage, of course, is crisis.
It it it may take only up to 6 weeks to to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in in Central America now. And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have so called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda.
When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 'sixty 8, comrade Brezhnev said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these schmucks to to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on Earth, to to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government in Washington, DC with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale, who will promise lots of thing, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of of new generation of Soviet assassins. Never mind. He will create false illusions that the situation is under control.
Situation is not under control. Situation is disgustingly out of control. Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. United States is in the state of war, undeclared total war against the basic principles and the foundations of of this system.
And and the initiator of this war is not Comrade Dondropov, of course. It's it's the system. However ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If if you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you.
But you don't have to be paranoid about it. What what actually happens now that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. The the time bomb is ticking. With every second, the disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins.
This is it. This is the last country of freedom and and possibility.
Speaker 0: Okay. So what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American policeman?
Speaker 1: Well, the the, the immediate thing that comes to my mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in in in the spirit of real patriotism, number 1. Number 2, to to explain them the real danger of socialist, communist, whatever, welfare state, big brother government. If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, nothing ever can help United States. You may kiss goodbye to your freedom, including freedoms to to homosexuals, to prison inmate. All this freedom will vanish, evaporate in in 5 seconds, including your precious lives.
The second thing, I the moment at least part of United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to force their government. And I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful noble activity. I am talking about forcing United States government to stop aiding communism because there is no other problem more burning and and urgent than to stop the Soviet military industrial complex from destroying what is whatever is left of the free world. And it is very easy to do. No credits, no technology, no money, no political or recognition, and, of course, no such ideas as grain deals to USSR.
The Soviet people, 270,000,000 of of Soviets, will be eternally thankful to you if you stop aiding a bunch of murderers who sit now in Kremlin and whom president Reagan respectfully calls government. They do not govern anything, least of all such complexity as the Soviet economy. So basic 2 2 very simple, maybe 2 simplistic answers or solutions, but never nevertheless, they are the only solutions. Educate yourself. Understand what's going on around you.
You are not living at the time of peace. You are in a state of war, and you have precious little time to save yourself. You don't have much time, especially if you are talking about young generation. There's not much time left for convulsions to the beautiful, disco music. Very soon, it will go just just overnight.
If we are talking about capitalists or or or wealthy businessmen, they I think they are selling the rope on which they will hang very soon. If they don't stop, if they cannot curb their unsettled desire for profit, and if they keep on trading with the monster of the Soviet communism, they are going to hang very soon. And it they will pray to be killed, but, unfortunately, they will be sent to Alaska probably to manage industry of slaves. It's it's simplistic. I know it sounds unpleasant.
I know Americans don't like to listen to things which are unpleasant, but I have defected not to tell you the stories about such idiocy as as microfilm James Bond type espionage. This is garbage. You don't need any espionage anymore. I have come to talk about survival. It's a question of survival of this system.
You may ask me, what is it in for me? Survival, obviously, because unlike I as I said, I am now in your boat. If if we sing together, we'll sing beautifully together. There is no other place on this planet to defect to.
reSee.it AI Summary
The state propaganda media is fearful of Tucker's interview with Putin, as evident in their voices. They are afraid of losing control of the narrative. This is the same media that criticized Tucker for interviewing Putin. These journalists were involved in peddling Russian disinformation and sowing chaos in our elections.
@kylenabecker - Kyle Becker
The state propaganda media is terrified of Tucker's interview with Vladimir Putin. You can hear it in their voices. They are truly afraid of losing control of the narrative. https://t.co/O88aNLijP0
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Tucker Carlson, a right-wing media figure, is in Moscow to interview Vladimir Putin. Critics argue that Carlson is not a journalist and instead spreads misinformation on behalf of the Kremlin. They believe his work is biased and not aligned with the facts. Some compare his interview with Putin to watching a scandalous show. Furthermore, there is concern that the Republican Party, including Donald Trump, is doing Putin's bidding. Although some see this as Republicans supporting Putin, others believe they are actually supporting Trump, who in turn supports Putin.
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Speaker 0: Am I
Speaker 1: allowed to say his name?
Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. I'm just
Speaker 1: His name is Tucker Carlson, and he is the only American journalist who has been able to interview Putin since the invasion in 2022. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist, not even close. He kind of just walks right into Moscow And presents himself on a silver silver platter to the Kremlin, doing the Kremlin's job of misinforming, disinforming the American population.
Speaker 3: His explanation of why he's doing it, that he's a journalist and he needs to inform people, he can call himself whatever he wants. I think, his work is demonstrable as not being just about giving people information. He has a point of view and often it's It's not aligned with the facts.
Speaker 0: Putin talks to an American friend. The Russian president turning to right wing conspiracy theorist Tucker Carlson. And it comes as Kremlin propagandist Tucker Carlson, a leading voice of the right wing disinformation campaign is in Moscow. Ironically, he is there in the name of keeping Americans informed, sitting down for an interview with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson is neither a journalist, nor a reporter, but he has played one on TV.
Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson still doesn't have a job. He's in Moscow house hunting, I hope. But, no, actually, Tucker is there to interview Vladimir Putin, which is so overtly ridiculous. Tucker Carlson interviewing Vladimir Putin, may not be, mean much to you, but for Trump, this is like watching OnlyFans. This is insane.
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Speaker 3: You've seen sharp relief A Republican party that is now doing Vladimir Putin's bidding. Donald Trump always did. Yeah. And somebody that we know, that we used to know, going over, doing Vladimir Putin's bidding.
Speaker 2: It was striking again yesterday To see Republicans across the board, and maybe some of them are doing Vladimir Putin's bidding, but really they're doing Donald Trump's bidding, which is Vladimir Putin's bidding.
@kylenabecker - Kyle Becker
Same vibes: https://t.co/JLAtIUL6vI
@kylenabecker - Kyle Becker
These are the same "journalists" aka "useful idiots" who did Putin's bidding by peddling Russian disinformation in the Clinton Dossier and sowing chaos in our elections https://t.co/B6ZdZ2iCxt
@Cancelcloco - Ian Carroll
The real reason the Putin interview terrified mainstream? Because the US backed a Nazi coup of the democratically elected president in 2014. The US and CIA started the war in Ukraine and they knew exactly what they were doing. https://t.co/O2q7IroXng
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The video discusses the US's history of overthrowing democratically elected governments and its involvement in Ukraine. It highlights the CIA's support for neo-Nazis and far-right extremists in Ukraine, leading to the 2014 coup and the rise of the Svoboda party. The video also mentions the Azov battalion, a neo-Nazi militia that is part of Ukraine's official armed forces. It criticizes the biased portrayal of the conflict by Western media and highlights the financial gains made by the military-industrial complex. The video argues that Putin's actions in response to the coup were predictable and that much of the information presented about the conflict is propaganda.
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Speaker 0: Know that one time when the US helped neo nazis overthrow democratically elected president? Do you know what country I'm talking about? But before we get started, you should brush up on basic facts about the US's involvement in regime change throughout history because we've been doing this all over the world for more than a 100 years now. Although, we sped up considerably after World War 2 with the founding of the CIA. That brings us to Allen Dulles, the godfather of the CIA, who was a very wealthy and influential businessman And largely because of his deep ties to big Nazi money before and after World War 2, and I guess during too Actually.
And after World War 2, the CIA helped set up a whole bunch of what they call stay behind operations, which is just a way of saying they funded that were mostly leftovers from the Nazi party in Europe because the Nazis hated communism. And so they just, like, yeah, these guys are useful. Let's Keep them around. We also poached all the Nazi scientists during operation paperclip. And so all of that is just to set the stage and remind you That the US is great at overthrowing governments, usually democratically elected ones.
Usually because they are too friendly with Russia, And the anecdote is usually to put dictators and far right extremists in power that will bend the need of the US. And also just to remind you, refresh you that The CIA and the US in general have no qualms about working with Nazis and Neo Nazis. So now it's time to learn the real history of the war in Ukraine. Because apparently, Putin nearly bored Tucker to death with a 2 hour long history lesson. So we'll do it faster and with sources.
Maybe I'll get my very own Some your article from the Daily Beast. So in 2010, Ukraine elected this guy, Viktor Yanukovych, to be their president. In what were hailed as remarkably democratic elections, It's giving me awful state of Ukraine at the time. Yanukovych happens to be from Donetsk Oblast where he was previously the governor? That would be this dark red one where Russian is the native language of more than 75% of the population.
In fact, this whole side of Ukraine is largely ethnically Russian. And he was logically very pro Russia. I mean, like, they are literal neighbors. But anyways, that was not cool with the US. And it was also not cool with all of the Nazis in Ukraine, like Tons of Nazis.
And if there's one thing the CIA is good at, it's at not letting a good revolution go to waste. And they actually were totally out in the open this time. John McCain himself went and dined with the opposition leaders including the far right Scoboda party which would eventually take over. He literally shared a stage at the public protest with the leader of this party? This is back in December of 2013 leading up to the US backed coup in 2014.
And back then, everyone knew that Ukraine had a real Nazi Here's the EU talking about it back in 2014. The Svoboda party is a far right party launched in 1991 and it took on this swastika like symbol Composed of I and an n, which stood for Idea Nazi or idea of the nation. Literally, that was their logo Until they had a whole rebranding later on. Like for real, this was an actual Nazi symbol used by Nazi divisions called the Wolfsnagel during World War 2 and that is The Svoboda party's symbol. This article is also from 2014 originally, updated in 2017.
Regrettably, the vaccine against the virus of Nazism produced at the Nuremberg tribunal is losing its original strength in some parts of European countries. That's a quote from Vladimir Putin. Remember when Canada got all kerfuffle because they accidentally had a standing ovation for a Nazi war criminal when Baby boy Ukraine came to give a little speech and they all stood up and applauded the old Nazi war criminal. If that was confusing to you as to why and how that would happen, the answer is because A ton of people from Ukraine are old Nazi war criminals. Ukraine is full of Nazis.
In fact, Most of Ukraine's military fighting power is because of Azov battalion, which is the direct descendant of the Svoboda party that took Over in the 2014 coup, Azov actually reached out around the world and recruited Neo Nazis from foreign countries to come get training to fight in Ukraine. They were banned from Facebook for racist and anti semitic content. They titled one of their pages gas chambers. But when Russia launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 and we all wanted to make a lot of money off of it, some media outlets changed the way they describe days off And Ukraine in general. German state owned media outlets like Deutsche Welle, which once described Azov as a Neo Nazi regiment soon began labeling allegations of Neo naz as Russian propaganda.
My. That's a familiar story. Because the United States literally openly financially and politically supported A neo Nazi militia terrorist group to take over the government of a democratic Ukraine. And then Crimeans who are ethnically Russian voted overwhelmingly to join Russia, and then the bulk of western media abandoned any hint of even Remotely balanced journalism. And now we're comparing Putin to Hitler and completely ignoring the actual Neo Nazis that are committing pogroms on the streets of Ukraine?
The leader of Ukraine's most distinguished fighting battalion, Azov battalion, Once wrote that Ukraine's mission is to quote, lead the white races of the world in a final crusade against the semi led Untermenschen. He is now a deputy in Ukraine's parliament. And the stories of Ukrainian nazism are not coming from Russian media. They're coming from western media like Radio Free Europe, like Jewish Organizations, like the World Jewish Congress, and the Simon Wentz, whatever, Center. Watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House.
Post mid on Ukraine is the world's only nation to have a Neo Nazi Formation in its official armed forces. And sorry, if you don't know what I mean when I say post Maidan Ukraine, that might be because they decided on a more like Nice sounding Wikipedia name. They called it the revolution of dignity instead of the original name, the Maidan Revolution. Because when Neo Nazis Please take over a democratic government. It should be called the revolution of dignity.
So now put yourself in Putin's shoes in 2014. The CIA has just overthrown the government of your next door neighbor. Think Russia overthrowing the government of Mexico. No. And they have installed a Nazi party as the head of it.
And then that Nazi party is going through the streets where they're all ethnic Russians and killing people? I mean, not to mention the NATO connection that now NATO is talking about getting in on Ukraine. I'm not trying to say that Putin is a good guy or that he's never done anything bad. I'm trying to say that literally every single thing that you could say that Putin has done that is bad, The United States government also does all the time. And from a geopolitics standpoint, the outcome of that is obvious.
It started in 2014, And no shit Putin was gonna do something about it. Everyone knew that Putin was gonna do something about it ever since 2014. But We didn't ignore it because we didn't think it was true. The United States did it because we wanted this outcome. We're gonna briefly skip over the whole part where the Biden family, the Biden vice presidency was actually very distinctly involved in the build up to the Ukraine war throughout his vice presidency and all of the kickbacks that his family got from that involvement?
And we'll skip straight To the money that is getting raked in by the military industrial complex ever since the start of the Ukraine war in 2022. US government approved arms sales just to NATO allies Went from 15,000,000,000 to 28,000,000,000. Private sales directly from military contractors to foreign governments went from a 103,000,000,000 to a 153,000,000,000. And all the while, all the corporate shill ass media reports it as though beating Russia in the arms market is part of a wider effort to isolate Moscow and its manufacturing capacity to weaken its forces arrayed against Ukraine? Quick.
Enrich the defense contractors for democracy. The only way to save democracy It's to give 1,000,000,000 of dollars to Lockheed Martin. Otherwise, Putin is gonna win. Except that Putin has said many times that he is willing to negotiate. He's happy to negotiate.
He doesn't even wanna take over all of Ukraine. He just wants that port right there and these Russians to be safe and NATO to stay the fuck away. He does not give a shit about Ukraine. He definitely doesn't give a shit about invading any other countries. He does not want that.
Russia is the biggest country in the world By a long shot. And almost all of it is uninhabited. They have more natural resources than anyone else. They have tons of their own problems to deal with, And they certainly don't want a nuclear conflict with other major world powers. And to this day, basically everything that Americans have been told about this conflict It's complete propaganda.
And the number one rule of propaganda is you need a boogeyman. Once the cold war ended, they needed a new one. So we had Osama bin Laden. Once Osama bin Laden ended, they needed a new one. So we went back to Putin.
Nancy Pelosi actually tried to claim that Pro Palestine protests were Putin's propaganda machine. Anything that they don't like is because of Putin, Which is why they came out guns blazing against this interview because everything that they have been telling you about this is propaganda and lies.
@kevinnbass - Kevin Bass PhD MS
FULL INTERVIEW with Soviet Defector Yuri Bezmenov: The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion (1984) https://t.co/nnK5Jtw45N
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Yuri Alexandrovich Besmionov, a former KGB agent, shares his experiences growing up in the Soviet Union and working for the KGB in this video. He discusses the propaganda and brainwashing techniques employed by the Soviet government to control its citizens and manipulate foreign diplomats. Besmionov emphasizes the oppressive nature of the Soviet system, highlighting the lack of freedom and rights for individuals, as well as the corruption and dishonesty within the country. He compares life in the Soviet Union to that in the United States, warning of the dangers of socialism and urging people to stop supporting the Soviet regime. Besmionov reveals the KGB's strategy of recruiting leftists and intellectuals to destabilize nations, targeting those disillusioned with the Marxist-Leninist regime. He explains the process of ideological subversion, which involves gradually altering a country's perception of reality. Besmionov asserts that the United States is currently in a state of demoralization and urges Americans to educate themselves about the dangers of socialism and communism. He calls for an end to government aid to communism and encourages individuals to take action to save themselves and the country.
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Speaker 0: My father was he's on the left here. My father was officer of the General Staff of the Soviet Army. He was inspector of land forces, Soviet troops stationed in countries like Mongolia, Cuba, East European countries. This is the picture taken at the entrance of my Institute of Oriental Languages. It's a part of Moscow State University.
As every Soviet student, I was quote unquote volunteering for harvesting grain in Kazakhstan. By the end of my training in school, I was recruited by the KGB. This picture was taken on that day and you can see again how happy It feels to be recruited by the KGB. Pay special attention to number of bottles on the table. One of my functions was to keep foreign guests permanently intoxicated the moment they land at Moscow Airport.
In 1967, the KGB attached me to this magazine, Look Magazine. A group of 12 people arrived to USSR from United States to cover the 50th anniversary of October socialist revolution in my country. From the first page to the last page, it was a package of lies.
Speaker 1: Our conversation is with mister Yuri Alexandrovich Besmionov. Mister Besmenov was born in 1939 in a suburb of Moscow. He was the son of a high ranking Soviet Army officer. He was educated in the elite schools inside the Soviet Union and became an expert in Indian culture and Indian languages. He had an outstanding career with Novesty, which was the and still is, I should say, the press arm or the press agency of the Soviet Union, it turns out that this is also a front for the KGB.
One of his interesting assignments was to brainwash foreign diplomats when they visited Moscow. And he'll tell us a little bit about how they did this and how they planted information which eventually wound up in the press of the free world. He escaped to the West in 1970 after becoming totally with the Soviet system, and he did this at great risk to his life. He certainly is one of the world's outstanding experts on the subject of Soviet propaganda and disinformation and active measures. Mr.
Besmionov, I'd like to begin by having you tell us a little bit about some of your childhood memories.
Speaker 0: Well, the most vivid memory of my childhood was 2nd World War, or to be more precise, the end of the 2nd World War when all of a sudden United States from a friendly nation, which helped us to defeat Nazism, turned overnight into a deadly enemy. And it was very shocking because all newspapers were trying to present an image of belligerent, aggressive American imperialism. Most of the things that we were taught is that United States is aggressive power, which is just about to invade our beautiful free socialist country, that American CIA is dropping Colorado beetles on our beautiful potato fields to eliminate our crops. And each Schoolboy had a picture of Colorado bug on the back page of his notebook, and we were instructed to go into collective fields to search for those little Colorado bugs. Of course, we couldn't find any, neither we could find many potatoes.
And that was explained again by the encroachments of the decadent imperialist power. The anti American paranoia hysteria in the Soviet propaganda was to such an of such a higher degree that many less skeptical people or less stubborn would really believe that United States is just about to invade our beautiful motherland, and some secretly hope that it will come true.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yes. Well, getting back to life inside the Soviet Union or inside Communist countries in general, In this country, at the university level primarily, we read and hear that, the Soviet system is different from ours, but not that different, in that there is a convergence developing between all of the systems of the world and that, really, it doesn't make an awful lot of difference what system you live under because you have corruption and dishonesty and tyranny and all that sort of thing. From your personal experience, what is the difference between life under communism and life in the United States?
Speaker 0: Well, life is obviously very much different for for simple reason that, The Soviet Union is a state capitalist economically. It's a state capitalism where an individual has absolutely no rights, no value. His life is nothing. It's just like an insect. He's disposable.
Whereby in United States, even the even the worst criminal is treated as a human being. He has a fair trial, and some of them capitalize on their crimes. They they publish their memoirs in their prisons and get handsomely paid by your crazy publishers. The differences, of course, in the daily life are very various depending on who whom we are talking about. In my own private life, I never suffered from communism simply because I was brought up in the family of high ranking military officer.
Most of the doors were open for me. Most of my expenses were paid by the government, And I never had any troubles in with the authorities or with the police. So in other words, I would say I enjoyed or I had good reasons to enjoy all the advantages of so called socialist system. My main motivations to defect was Had nothing to do with effluents. It was mainly moral indignation, moral protest, rebellion against the inhuman methods of Of the Soviet system?
Speaker 1: Well, specifically, what did you object to? I objected, first
Speaker 0: of all, against oppression of my own dissidents and intellectuals. And that was the most disgusting thing that that I witnessed as a as a young man, young student who was brought up a very troublesome period in our history from Stalin to Khrushchev, from total tyranny and oppression to some kind of liberalization. 2nd, when I started working for the Soviet Embassy in India, I to my horror, I discovered that we are millions times more oppressive than any colonial or imperialist power in the history of mankind, that my country brings to India not freedom, progress, and and friendship between the nations, But, racism, exploitation, and slavery, and and, of course, economical inefficiency to this country. Since I fell in love with India, I developed something which, by KGB standards, is extremely dangerous thing. It's called split loyalty.
When an agent likes a country of assignment more than his own country. I literally fell in love with this beautiful country, a country of great contrasts, But also great humility, great tolerance, and and if philosophically and intellectual freedoms. My ancestors used to live in caves and eat raw meat when India was highly civilized nation 6000 years ago. So obviously, the choice was Not to the advantage of my own nation, I decided to defect and to entirely dissociate myself from the brutal regime.
Speaker 1: Mister Besmianoff, we've read a lot about the concentration camps and the slave labor camps under the Stalin regime. Now the general impression in America is that those things are part of the past. Are they still going on today? Or what is the status?
Speaker 0: Yes. There is no qualitative change in in the Soviet concentration camp system. There are changes in in numbers of prisoners. Again, this is unreliable Soviet statistics. We don't know how many political prisoners are there in the Soviet But we sure know from various sources that at each particular time, there are close to 25 to 30,000,000 of Soviet citizens who are virtually kept as slaves in forced labor camp system.
Size of population of country like Canada is serving terms as as prisoners. Incredible. So I would say that those intellectuals who try to convince American public that Concentration camp system is a thing of a past are either conscientiously misleading public opinion Or they are not in very intellectual people. They they're selectively blind. They don't they lack Intellectual honesty when they say that.
Speaker 1: Well, we've spoken about the intellectuals in this country and also the intellectuals in the Soviet Union. What about down at the broad mass level? Do the people in general, the worker the working people, the workers General in the Soviet Union, do they support the system? Do they tolerate it? What is their attitude?
Speaker 0: Well, every Soviet citizen, if there is such an animal, of course, does not like the system because it hurts. It kills. He may not understand the the reasons. He he may not have enough information or or educational background to understand, but I doubt very much there are many people who are conscientiously supporting the Soviet system. There are no such such people in USSR.
Even those who have all the reasons to enjoy socialism, people like myself, who are a member of journalistic elite, They they also hate system for for different reasons, though, not because they lack material effluents, But because they are unfree to think, they're in constant fear, duplicity, split personality, this is the greatest tragedy for my nation.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think are the chances of the people actually overcoming their system or replacing it?
Speaker 0: There is a great possibility that system will sooner or later be destroyed from within. There is a self destructive mechanism built into any socialist or communist or fascist system because there is lack of feedback because the system does not rely upon loyalty of population. But until and until this Soviet junta is being supported by the Western so called imperialists, that is multinational companies, establishments, governments, And let's face it. Intellectuals, so called academia in the United States is famous for supporting the Soviet system. As long as the Soviet junta will keep on receiving credits, money, technology, grain deals and political recognition from all these traitors of democracy or freedom, there is no hope.
There is not much hope for changes in my country. And the system will not collapse by itself simply because it's it's being nourished by so called American imperialism. This is the greatest paradox in history of mankind when, capitalist world supports and actively nourishes its own destroyer destructor.
Speaker 1: I think you're trying to tell us something. Oh, yes. Country. Mhmm.
Speaker 0: I'm trying to tell you that it it has to be stopped unless you want to end up in in gulag system and enjoy all the advantages of socialist equality, working for free, catching fleas on your body, Sleeping on the planks of plywood in Alaska this time, I guess. That's where Americans will be wrong unless they will wake up, of course, and force their government to stop aiding Soviet fascism.
Speaker 1: Well, you told us a moment ago why you left the system. I'd like to hear the details of how you did it. It must have been a very dangerous thing.
Speaker 0: It was not so dangerous. It was crazy. First of all, because defecting in India is virtually impossible. Thanks to very strong pressure from the Soviet government.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. You were in India on assignment at
Speaker 0: this time. I was working for the Soviet embassy in New Delhi as a press officer.
Speaker 1: Mhmm.
Speaker 0: And, defecting for a Soviet diplomat is next to impossible. It's a suicide, as I said, because a great friend Indira Gandhi pushed a law through parliament which says, and I quote, No defector from any country has a right of political asylum in any embassy on the territory of Indian Republic, which is a masterpiece of hypocrisy. No other defector, but the Soviet one needs a political asylum. So knowing that perfectly well, I I I planned a craziest possible way to defect. I studied counterculture in India.
There are there were thousands of young American boys and girls with no shoes, long hair, smoking hush and marijuana, studying sometimes Indian philosophy, sometimes simply pretending that they study. And they greatly annoyed Indian police, and they were laughing stock of Indians because, obviously, they they were good for nothing students. I studied carefully where they congregate, what routes they travel, what language they speak, what do they smoke. And one day, I simply joined a group of hippies to avoid detection of Indian police. I was dressed as a typical hippie with blue jeans, long Kamiz shirts with all kind of nice decorations like these long hairs.
I I I bought a wig because for several weeks, I had to turn myself from a conservative Soviet diplomat into a very progressive American hippie. And that was the only way that that I could avoid detection. It was very interesting experience, but it was necessary because, From my own knowledge as a as a member of Soviet embassy staff, I knew that there were many cases when Soviet defectors were betrayed by Indian police and also some Western embassies played a very dirty role in betraying the Soviet defectors. According to our information, there were some I wouldn't call them double agents, but simply a model people working for this for the United States embassy and confining in in people like this would be a suicide. So I had to be extremely careful.
I could not trust anyone. And That was the reason for such a crazy way to defect.
Speaker 1: Well, had you been caught in the act of trying to get out, What would have happened to you?
Speaker 0: Oh, most likely, I would end up in in concentration camp. Or Depending on the situation and on on the on the whim of some bureaucrat in KGB, maybe even executed. This is normal practice, Quietly, of course, not publicly. But that would be the end of my introduction, of course.
Speaker 1: Well, when did you finally make it to the United States?
Speaker 0: In 1970, after about 6 months of debriefing in Athens by the CIA, and I presume FBI too. They let me go first to Germany then to Canada. That was my decision. I had to change my identity to protect my family and my friends in in USSR. And, also, I was a little bit paranoid knowing that both Soviet KGB and probably some double agents within American system may be after me.
So I wanted to settle down as far away as possible. I requested CIA to give me some kind of new identity and just let me go on my own. And I settled in Canada. I was a student. I changed many professions from farm help and and laundry truck driver to instruct language instructor and broadcaster for Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in Montreal.
Well, have you had any threats on your life or any Yes. Unpleasant In about 5 years, KGB eventually discovered that I am working for Canadian Broadcasting. See, I made a very big mistake. I started talk I started working for Overseas service of CBC, which is similar to Voice of America in Russian language. And, of course, monitoring service in USSR picked up every new voice.
Every new announcer would They they would make it a point to discover who he is. And in 5 years, sure enough, slowly but surely, they discovered that I am Not Thomas Schuman, that I am Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmianov, and that I'm working for Canadian Broadcasting. And undermining beautiful detente between Canada and USSR. And the Soviet ambassador, Alexander Yakovlev, made it his personal effort to discredit me. He complained to Pierre Trudeau, who is known to be a little bit soft on socialism.
And The management of CBC behaved in a very strange, cowardly way, unbecoming to representatives of an independent country like Canada, they listened to every suggestion that Soviet ambassador gave, And they started shameful investigation, analyzing content of my broadcasts to USSR. And sure enough, they discovered that some of my statements were probably to, would be offending to the Soviet Polidoro. So I had to to leave my my job. And, of course, subtle intimidations. They would say something like, please cross the street carefully because, you know, traffic is very heavy in Quebec.
And, Fortunately, I know about the psychology and and the logic of activity of the KGB, and I never allowed myself to be intimidated. This is the worst thing. This is what they expect a person, the defector to be intimidated. Once they spot that that you are scared, They keep on developing that line. And then eventually, you either have to give up entirely and and and work for them, or you they neutralize you.
They they they would definitely stop all kind of political activity, which they failed to do in my case because I was stubbornly working for the Canadian Broadcasting. And In response to their intimidations, I said that, look, this is a free country, and I am as free as you are. And I also can drive very fast. And gun control is not yet established in Canada. So I had a couple of good shotguns in my basement.
So welcome to visit me someday with your Kalashnikov's machine guns. So, obviously, it didn't work. Intimidation didn't work. So they tried different approach, as I described, they approach on the highest level, on the level of Canadian bureaucracy.
Speaker 1: And at that level, they were successful.
Speaker 0: On that level, they were successful. On an individual level, they failed flat.
Speaker 1: Mister Besmayanov has brought a series of slides with him that he has taken from the Soviet Union, and I think this is a good time to, Take a look at the slides. Now, the viewers will be able to see these slides as we talk about them.
Speaker 0: Yes. This is a collection of slides, which are Some of them are, snapshots from my family album. Some of them are documents which I smuggled from the Soviet Embassy, And some are reproductions from local mass media. I usually show them to establish my credibility as a defector. This is a picture of of my native town, Matish, about 20 miles north from Moscow.
Characteristically, there's a statue of Comrade Lenin in the central square. This is myself at the age of 7. Again, characteristically, under the statue of Comrade Stalin extending his friendly hand to Peoples of the world. At that age, of course, I was still idealistically minded young communist, And, I still believe that sooner or later, things will go for better, but I realized that the system stinks, that something is fishy, And that ideology is is fake and the, propaganda about advanced Soviet agriculture simply didn't meet the criteria of reality. If they talk about, abundance of food and and there's none in the stores, there must be something wrong.
My father was he's on the left here. My father was officer of the general staff of the Soviet Army. He was inspector of land forces, Soviet troops stationed in countries like Mongolia, Cuba, East European countries. Were he alive today, most likely, he would be inspecting Soviet troops in in Nicaragua, Angola, and many other parts of the world. Fortunately, he died, and he didn't see the disgrace because deep inside, he was a Russian patriot.
He didn't He didn't like the idea of expanding Soviet military might, especially in the areas where where we were not welcomed at all. Unlike many other military officers, He was reporting directly to the minister of defense bypassing KGB and diplomatic service. In other words, he was a trusted military professional. And my impression that this type of people are much less hulkish and adventuristic than party bureaucrats In Kremlin, when American mass media described Soviet military as potentially dangerous counterpart for for Pentagon, I simply laugh Because I know better. I know that the most dangerous part of the Soviet power structures are not military at all.
Most likely, if they come to power in my country, there'll be more sensible negotiators for nuclear disarmament and withdrawal of the Soviet troops from many parts
Speaker 1: of the world. But if someone from the party structure or the KGB structure were to give the orders for a military
Speaker 0: They have to obey. They have
Speaker 1: to follow.
Speaker 0: They are professional military. But they you see the triangle of power and hate in USSR is the party at the top, the party elite, the oligarchy of the party, then the military and the KGB at the bottom. They hate each other. And, the most hated triangle, The most hated corner of the triangle is the Communist Party bureaucrats. They are the most adventuristic, senile, megalomaniacs.
They can start war. I wouldn't be surprised. Not the military. They know what war is. At least my father did.
This is the picture taken at the at the entrance of my Institute of Oriental Languages. It's a part of Moscow State University. I, graduated in 1963, and I Excuse me. Which one were you on? I I am on the Right.
You're on the right. And on the left is my, colleague, my schoolmate, Vadim Svyronov, who later was a apparatchik in the Central Committee of the Soviet Union Communist Party. What is an apparatchik? It's it's a it's a function. It's something like civil service in British Empire.
Some someone who is never fired from from the service. He stays there internally. He may not be promoted too high, but he's a dependable bureaucrat who will stay forever. I studied not only languages, but also history, literature, even even music. I'm I'm on this picture, I'm trying to learn how to play musical, Indian musical instrument.
I even tried to look like an Indian when I was 2nd years to
Speaker 1: Not bad. Right?
Speaker 0: Yes. And actually, it was strongly encouraged by the by the instructors in my school because This the graduates of my school were later on employed as diplomats, foreign journalists, or spies. As every Soviet student, I was, quote unquote, volunteering for harvesting grain in Kazakhstan. This is a a biggest, agricultural blunder of the Soviet government. But, I didn't have much choice, course, because the communist motto borrowed from the Bible says, those who do not work shall not eat, and you can see me eating.
Therefore, I was working, and you can see how happy I was about it. I went through a very extensive physical and military training, including the manure, and including the, military gains in in, areas, suburban areas of Moscow. And here, for example, we are on the tour in Arkhangelsk area. And by the end of my training in school, I was recruited by the KGB. This picture was taken on that day, and you can see again how happy It feels to be recruited by the KGB.
Speaker 1: Our conversation with Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmianoff, who was a defector from the Soviet Union, a former propaganda Agent for Novesty and the KGB will continue after this message.
Speaker 0: Alright. As every student in USSR, I I went through very extensive physical and military training and civil defense training too. Unlike in United States, where civil defense is virtually nonexistent, 0. In USSR, every student, whatever is major subject, has to go through very extensive 4 year military and civil defense training. You can see me here with a group of students during one of the war games near Moscow.
The main idea, of course, is to prepare a huge reserve army of of of the USSR. Each student has to to graduate as a junior lieutenant. In my case, it was administrative and military intelligence service. My first assignment was to India as a translator with the Soviet economical aid group building refinery complexes in Dihar state and Gujarat state. At that time, I was still naively, idealistically believing that what I was doing contributes to the understanding and cooperation between the nations.
It took me quite a number of years to realize that what we were bringing to India was a new type of colonialism, thousand times more oppressive and exploitative than any colonialism or imperialism in in history of mankind. But at that time, I was still hoping that, well, maybe it's not that bad, could be worse, and things may go for better. And I even tried to implement the beautiful Marxist motto, proletarians of all the countries unite. I tried to unite with a nice Indian girl, and I was actually, I was fascinated by Indian culture, by by the family life in in this country. But obviously, Communist Party had different plans for my genes, so I had to marry this beautiful Russian girl.
In the span of my career, I married 3 times. Most of these marriages were marriages of convenience on advice from the Department of Personnel. This is normal practice in USSR. When the Soviet citizen is assigned to a foreign job, he has to be married either to keep family in USSR as hostages. Just or if it's a convenience marriage like mine, so that the husband and wife are virtually informers on each other to prevent defection or, contamination by decadent imperialist or capitalist ideas.
In my case, I hated that girl so much that the moment I landed in Moscow, we, we were divorced, and I, I married late the second time. By the end of my first assignment in India, I was promoted to the position of of public relation officer. You can see me here translating a speech by a Soviet Boss.
Speaker 1: And you're on the right.
Speaker 0: I'm on the right here. Yes. And it was the occasion was commissioning of the refinery complex in Bihar Baroni. Back in Moscow, I was immediately recruited by Novasty Press Agency, which is a propaganda and ideological the version front for the KGB. 75% of the members of the Novice Tea are commissioned officers of the KGB.
The other 25 are like myself co opted agents who are assigned to specific operations. In this particular case, you can see me talking to students of Lumumba Friendship University in Moscow. This is the unit a huge school under the, direct control of the KGB and Central Committee where future leaders of the so called National Liberation Movements are being educated and selected carefully. And some of them have absolutely they neither this, for example, is a group of students from Lumumba. They don't look like students at all.
They look more like military, and that's exactly what they were. They were dispatched back to their countries to be leaders of the so called national liberation movements or to be translated into normal human language, leaders of, international terrorist groups. Another, area of activity when I was working for the novice team was to accompany groups of so called progressive intellectuals, Writers, journalists, publishers, teachers, professors of of of colleges. You can see me here in Kremlin. I'm second on on the left with a group of Pakistani and Indian intellectuals.
Most of them pretended they don't understand that, we are actually working on behalf of the Soviet government and the KGB. They pretended that they are actually being guests, a VIP intellectuals, that they are treated according to their merits and and and their intellectual abilities. For us, they were just a bunch of intellectual abilities. For us, they were just a bunch of political prostitutes to be taken advantage for various propaganda operations. Therefore, you can see perfectly well, the senior colleague of mine on the left doesn't really have that much respect on his face and myself with a very skeptical smile, typical KGB sarcastic smile, anticipating another victim of of ideological Brainwashing.
This is how a a typical, conference in Novosti headquarters in Moscow look like. Sitting in the middle is Boris Burkhov, the then director of Novasty Press Agency, high ranking party bureaucrat In the department of propaganda, I am standing next to a famous Indian poet, Sumitranandan Panth. He was famous because he was an author he was the author of a famous poem titled Rapsody to Lenin. That's why he was invited to USSR, and everything was paid, by the Soviet government. The pay special attention to number of bottles on the table.
This is one of the ways to kill the awareness or curiosity of of foreign journalists. My one of my functions was to keep foreign guests permanently intoxicated. The moment they land at Moscow Airport, I had to take them to the VIP launch and Toast to friendship and understanding within the nations of the world, glass of vodka, then the second glass of vodka. And in no time, my guest would be feeling very happy. They would see everything in kind of pink, nice color, and, that's the way I I had to keep them permanently for the next 15 or or 20 days.
At certain point in time, I had to withdraw alcohol from them so that some of them who are the most would feel a little bit shaky, guilty trying to remember what they were talking last night. That's the time to approach them with all kind of nonsense, such as joint communique care or statement for for Soviet propaganda. That's the time they are in the most flexible. And, of course, what they didn't Then they didn't realize or pretended not to realize that myself who was drinking together with them, was not drinking at all. I had ways to get rid of alcohol through various techniques, including special pills, which were given to me by my colleagues.
But they were taking it seriously. In other words, they they they would consume quite a large volumes of alcohol and feel quite uneasy next morning. In 1967, the KGB attached me to this magazine, Look Magazine. A group of 12 people arrived to USSR from United States to cover the 50th anniversary of October socialist revolution in my country. From From the first page to the last page, it was a package of lies, propaganda cliche, which were presented to American readers as opinions and deductions of American journalists.
Nothing could be far from truth. This were not opinions. They were not opinions at all. They were the cliches which the Soviet propaganda wants American public to think that they think that if it does make any sense at all. It sure does because From the viewpoint of the Soviet propaganda, although there are some subtle criticism of the Soviet system, the basic message is that Russia today is a nice functioning, efficient system supported by majority of population.
That's the biggest lie. And, of course, American intellectuals and journalists from Luke Magazine Eliberated on that untruth in various different ways, they intellectualized that lie. They found all kind of justifications for telling lies to American public. This is
Speaker 1: Excuse me, it was partly your job To make sure that they got these ideas and accepted them as their own ideas.
Speaker 0: Right. Actually, even before they arrived to USSR, and they paid astronomical sum of money for that visit. They were submitted the this Novosib press agency developed so called backgrounder, 20, 25 pages of information and opinions, which were presented to the journalists even before they bought their tickets to Moscow. They had to analyze the situation. And judging on their reaction to that background, the local Mavista representative If our local Soviet diplomat in Washington DC would assess whether they have whether they'd be given visa to USSR or not.
Well, they were selected all the time. They were preselected very carefully, and there is not much chance for honest journalists to arrive to USSR and to stay there for 1 year and to bring this, package of lies back home. This, for example, is a centerfold of the tie of of the Look Magazine. They presented this monument erected by Communist Party in Stalingrad as the symbol personification of Russian military might. And they said in the article, which is published on on the side, that Soviets are very proud of the victory in the 2nd World War.
This is another big myth, a lie. Most sensible people would be proud to lose 20,000,000 of their countrymen In a war which was started by Genovese, Hitler, and comrade Stalin and paid by American multinationals, most of the Soviet citizens look at this type of monuments with disgust and sorrow because every family lost father, brother, sister, or child in the 2nd World War. Yet American journalists were trying to appease, to please their hosts, Presented this picture on the centerfold as the symbol and personification of Soviet national, they call it Russian national spirit. And it was greatest greatest misconception and and a very tragic misunderstanding. Of course, Luke Magazine was not distributed in USSR.
The main, audience was in United States. But, I presume that many Americans, millions of Americans who were reading LOOK Magazine at that time had absolutely wrong idea about the sentiments of my nation, about what the Soviets are proud of, and what they hate. This is a group. You see the same lady with the sword in Stalingrad. This is the group of journalists.
Myself is in the center with the same devilish smile, and mister Philip Harrington is on the extreme left there with with his camera. This is the gentleman which was so deaf or so uninterested in what I had to say to him. This is the same picture, a blow up of the same of the same picture. Many many guests from various countries, in this particular case from Asia and Africa were taken by me as a novice press agency employee, for a tour across Siberia, for example. We would show them typical kindergarten.
You see? Nothing special by American standards. Just nice children sitting, eating their breakfast or or lunch. What they could not understand or they pretended not to understand that is an exemplary kindergarten. This is not the kindergarten for every person or every family in USSR, And we maintain that illusion in their minds.
You can see myself under the red spot in the middle there, with the same business like expression. I'm on you know, I'm doing my job. That that's what I'm assigned to do, and that's what I was paid to do. But deep inside, I still hope that at least some of these useful idiots would understand that what they are looking at has nothing to do with the level of affluence in my nation. This is a better picture which reflects the true spirit of of the Soviet, Soviet childhood.
This picture was printed in a Canadian government publication by mistake. In the middle, you can see children playing on a a small courtyard, and the caption goes, this is a typical kindergarten in Siberia. What these idiots didn't understand that it is not kindergarten at all. It is a prison for children of political prisoners. But there was not a single mentioning that what they were visiting actually was an area of concentration camps.
And the job of people like myself To help them to not to notice that they are actually talking to prisoners, most of the children were dressed, especially on the occasion of the foreigners visit. The, of course, there were no corpses in on the ground. There were no machine gun guards. And, the well, it looks Not very pleasant as you see. It's a it it looks dull, but, obviously, it does not create an impression that this is actually a prison.
Speaker 1: Well, did any of the journalists have the curiosity to ask about prisons and that kind of thing? They were in Siberia,
Speaker 0: is what you were saying? Yes. Some of them ask questions and naturally, we we would give them the for the stupid question, we give them stupid answer. No. There are no prisons in Siberia.
No. Most So the people who who you see are free citizens of USSR, they're very happy to be here, and and they are contributing to the glory of the socialist system. Some of them pretended that they they believe what what I was telling them. And Most of them, we may discuss it later. What are the motivations of these people?
Why would they stubbornly bring lies to their own population through their own mass media. I have various answers to this. There is not a single explanation. It's a complex of explanations. It's fear, pure biological fear.
They understand that they are on the territory of an enemy state, a police state. And just to save their rotten skins and their miserable jobs, their effluents back home, they would prefer to tell a lie than to to ask truthful questions and and report truthful information. 2nd, most of these schmucks were, afraid to lose their jobs because, Obviously, if you tell truth about my country, you will not last long as a correspondent of New York Times, or or Los Angeles They will fire you. What kind of correspondent are you? You obviously cannot find common language with Russians if they kick you out in 24 So just by by trying to be conformist to their own editorial bosses, they tried not to offend the sentiments of the Soviet administrators and people like myself.
Deep inside, I hope they would insult my or offend my sentiments. Obviously, they preferred not to. Another reason, I did I I refuse to believe it, but obviously, there is another reason. Obviously, it's agreed. These people earn a lot of money when they come back to USA.
They claim that they are experts in my country. They write books which sells a 1000000 copies, titled like Russians, the truth about Russia. Most of it is lie about Russia, Yet they claim to be Sovietologists. They they bring they play back myths about my country, the propaganda cliches, yet they stubbornly resist the word of truth. If a a person like Solzhenitsyn is either defecting or kicked out of USSR.
They try all their best to dis to discredit him and to discourage him. I don't have much chance to appear on national network, with a true story about my country. But a useful idiot like Kendrick Smith or Robert Kaiser. They are big heroes. They come back from USSR.
They say, oh, we were talking to dissidents in Russia. Big deal. Soviet dissidents are chasing American correspondents in the streets, and they are cowardly escaping from these contacts. For some strange reason, if you want to know more about Spain, you refer to Spanish writers. If you want to learn more about French, you read French writers.
Even about Antarctica, I bet you would read penguins. Only about the Soviet Union for some strange reason, You read Hendricks and Schmendricks and all kind of Kysinger's because they claim that they know more about my country. They know nothing or next to nothing, or they pretend that they know more than they actually do. I would say they are dishonest people who lack integrity and common sense and intellectual honesty. They bring back all kind of stories like that.
A kindergarten in Siberia, Meeting the most important fact, it's a prison for children of political prisoners. Another greatest example of monumental idiocy of American politicians. Edward Kennedy was in Moscow, And he thought that he is a popular charismatic American politician who is easygoing, who can smile, dance at the wedding in in Russian Palace of Marriages. What he done what he did not understand or maybe he pretended not to understand that actually he was being taken for a ride. This is a staged bedding especially to impress foreign media or or useful idiots like Ed Kennedy.
Most of the of the guests there, they they they had security clearance, and they were instructed what to say to foreigners. This is exactly what I was doing. You can see me in the same damn bedding Palace in Moscow where Ed Kennedy was dancing here. You see smiling. He thinks he's very smart.
From the viewpoint of Russian citizens who observe this idiocy, he's he's narrow minded, egocentric idiot who tries to earn his own popularity through the, through participation in propaganda farces like this. Here, you can see myself On the right, again, exemplary Soviet bride. On the left, 3 journalists from various countries, Asia, Africa, and Latin America. Obviously, they enjoying the situation. They they will go back home and write the reports.
We were present in the On the regular Soviet wedding, they were not present on the regular Soviet wedding. They were present. They were parts of a farce of a circus performance. Another thing which I had to sometimes risking my life to explain to foreigners. Time Magazine, for example, is very critical of South African racist regime.
The whole article was dedicated to the shameful internal passport system where black blacks are not allowing to live with whites. For some strange reason, for the last 14 years since my defection, nobody wanted to pay attention to my passport. This is my passport. It also shows my nationality, and it it it has a police rubber stamp, which is called in Russian language, which assigns me to a certain area of residence. I cannot leave that area.
Same way as this black man cannot leave the area in South Africa, yet we call South African government racist regime. Not a single Jane Jane Schmonder or Fonda is brave enough, courageous enough To come to media and say, look. This is what happens in USSR. I send a copy of of my passport to many American liberals and civil rights, defenders and and all the other useful idiots, they never they never bothered to answer me back. This shows what kind of integrity, what kind of honesty these people are.
They're a bunch of hypocrites because they don't want to recognize a good example of racism in my country. This is the first stage of befriending a professor. You can see myself on the left with the same James Bond smile. On my on the right is my KGB supervisor, comrade Leonid Mitrokhin, and in the middle, a professor of political science in Delhi University. The next stage would be to invite him to a gathering of in the Soviet Friendship Society.
There he is sitting next to his wife before he is being sent to USSR for free trip. Everything is paid by the Soviet government. He was made to believe that he's invited to USSR because he's a talented, Sober thinking, intellectual, absolutely false. He's invited because he's a useful idiot, Because he would agree and subscribe to most of the Soviet propaganda cliche. And when he is coming back to to his own country, he is going for years years to teach the beauties of Soviet socialism to, newer and newer generations of his students, thus promoting the Soviet propaganda line.
The KGB was even curious about this gentleman. It may look innocent. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a great spiritual leader or maybe a great charlatan and crook, depending on which from which side you are looking at him. Beetles were trained at his Ashram in in India how to meditate. Mia Farrow and and other, useful idiots from Hollywood visited his school, and they returned back to to United States, absolutely out of their minds with marijuana, Hashish, and crazy ideas of meditation.
To meditate, in other words, to isolate oneself from the current social and political issues of your own country to get into your own bubble, to forget about troubles of the world. Obviously, KGB was very fascinated with such a beautiful school, such a brainwashing center for stupid Americans. I was dispatched by the KGB to check what kind of VIP Americans attend this school
Speaker 1: at UN11.
Speaker 0: Yes. I'm on the left. I I I was trying to get enrolled in that school. Unfortunately, the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi asked too much. He wanted 500 American dollars for enrollment, But my function was not actually to get enrolled in the school.
My function was to discover what kind of people from United States attend this school. And we discovered that, yes, there are some influential members of family, public opinion makers of United States who come back with the crazy stories about Indian philosophy, Indians themselves look up upon them as idiots, useful idiots, to say nothing about KGB who looked at them as as as extremely Naive misguided people. Obviously, a VIP, say, a wife of of of a congressman or or a prominent Hollywood personality after the after being trained in that school is much more instrumental in the hands of of manipulators of public opinion and KGB than a normal person who who understands, who who who looks through this this, this this type of of, fake religious training.
Speaker 1: Why would they be more susceptible to manipulation?
Speaker 0: I just mentioned that because, you see, a A person who is too much involved in in in in introspective meditation. You see, If you carefully look what what Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is teaching to to Americans is that all most of the problems, most of the burning issues of today can be solved simply by meditating. Don't don't don't rock the boat. Don't get involved. Just sit down, look at your navel, and meditate.
And the things due to some strange logic due to cosmic vibration will will will settle down by themselves. This is exactly what the KGB and Marxist Leninist propaganda wants from Americans to distract their opinion, attention and mental energy from real issues of United States into a non issues, into a non world, nonexistent harmony. Obviously, it's more beneficial for the Soviet aggressors to have a bunch of duped Americans than Americans who are self conscious, healthy, physically fit, and alert to to the reality. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi obviously is not on the payroll of the KGB. But whether he knows it or not, he contributes greatly to demoralization of American society, and he's not the only one.
There are hundreds of those gurus who come to you to your country to capitalize on naivete and stupidity of of Americans. It's a fashion. It's a fashion to meditate. It's a fashion not to be involved. So, obviously, you can see that if if KGB were, that curious, if they paid my trip to Hadwar, if they assigned me to that to that strange job, Obviously, they were very much fascinated.
They were convinced that that type of of of brainwashing is very efficient and instrumental in demoralization of the United
Speaker 1: Our conversation with Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmianoff, who is a defector from the Soviet Union, a former propaganda agent for Novesty and the KGB will continue after this message.
Speaker 0: This picture shows the part of the building of USSR embassy and my supervisors. On the left is comrade Meghdi, an Indian communist, And on the right, comrade Mitrokhin, my supervisors in the secret department of research and country propaganda. It has nothing to do with either research or counter propaganda. Most of the activity of that department was to compile huge Amount volume of information on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion, publishers, editors, journalists, actors, educationalists, professors of political science, members of parliament, representatives of business circles. Most of these people were divided roughly in 2 groups.
Those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to the positions of power through media and public opinion manipulation. Those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated or executed physically come revolution. Same way as in a small town of Hue in South Vietnam. Several thousands of Vietnamese were executed in one night when the city was captured by Vietcong for only 2 days. An American CIA could never figure out how could possibly communists know each individual where he lives, where where to get him, and would be arrested in 1 night, basically, in some 4 hours before dawn, put on a van, taken out of the city limits, and shot.
The answer is very simple. Long before communist occupied the city, there was extensive network of informers, Local Vietnamese citizens who knew absolutely everything about people who are instrumental in public opinion, including barbers and taxi drivers. Everyone who is sympathetic to United States was executed. Same thing was done under the guidance of of the Soviet embassy in Hanoi. And same thing I was doing in New Delhi.
To my horror, I discovered that in the files where people were doomed to execution, there were names of of pro Soviet journalists with whom I was personally friendly.
Speaker 1: Pro Soviet.
Speaker 0: Yes. They were idealistically minded leftists who, made several visits to USSR. And yet the KGB decided that come revolution or drastic changes in political structure of India, they will have to go. Why is that? Because they know too much simply because, you see, the useful idiots, the the leftists who are Idealistically believing in the beauty of Soviet socialist or communist or whatever system.
When they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That's why my KGB instructors specifically made the point, never bother with leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. This was my instruction.
Try to get into into, large circulation, established conservative media, Rich, filthy rich moviemakers, intellectuals, so called academic circles, cynical, egocentric people who can look into your eyes with angelic and tell you a lie. These are the most recruitable people, people who lack moral principles, who are either too greedy or to suffer from self importance. They feel that, they they matter a lot. These are the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit.
Speaker 1: But to eliminate the others, to execute the others, don't they serve some purpose? Wouldn't they be the ones
Speaker 0: you rely on? They serve purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in in United States. All these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defender, they are instrumental in the process of the of the, subversion only to destabilize the nation. When their job is completed, they are not they are not needed anymore.
They know too much. Some of them, when when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist Lenin has come to power, obviously, they get offended. They think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot, but they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist Leninists when they come to power.
And that's what happened in Nicaragua. You remember most of these, former Marxist Leninists were either put to prison or one of them split, and now he's working against Sandinistas. It happened in in, Grenada when Boris Bischoff was he was already a Marxist. He was executed by by a new Marxist who was more Marxist than this Marxist. Same happened in Afghanistan when, first, there was Taraki.
He was killed by Amin. Then Amin was killed by Babrakar Mal with the help of KGB. Same happened in in Bangladesh when Mujibur Rahman, very pro Soviet leftist, was assassinated by his own Marxist Leninist military comrades. It's the same pattern everywhere. The moment they serve their purpose, all the useful idiots are used either be executed entirely, All the idealistically minded Marxist or, exiled or put in prisons like in Cuba.
Many many former Marxists are in Cuba, I mean, in prison. So most of the Indians who were cooperating with the Soviets, especially without the Department of of, Information of the USSR Embassy were listed for execution. And when I discovered that fact, of course, I was sick. I was mentally and physically sick. I thought that I'm I'm going to explode one day during the briefing of the ambassador's office.
I would stand up and say something that we are basically a bunch of murderers. That's what we are. We, it has nothing to do with friendship and understanding between the nation and blah blah blah. We are murderers. We behave as as bunch of thugs in in a country which which is hospitable to us, a country which which with ancient traditions.
But I I I did not defect. I tried to get the message across to my horror. Nobody wanted even to listen, least of all to believe what I had to say. And I tried all kinds of tricks. I would I would I would, leak information through letters, or lost documents something like that.
And still, I got no message. The message was not published even in the conservative mass media of of India. The immediate impulse to defect was Bangladesh crisis, which was described by American correspondence as Islamic Grassroot Revolution, which is Absolute baloney. There was nothing to do with Islam, and there was no Grassroot Revolution. Actually, there are no Grassroot Revolutions, period.
Any revolution is a byproduct of a highly organized group, of conscientious and professional, organizers, but Has nothing to do with grassroots. In Bangladesh, it was nothing with grassroots. Most of the, Avami League party members, Avami Lignin's People's Party, were trained in Moscow in the high party school. Most of the Muqtifalje leaders Muqtifalje is in Bengali People's Army, same as Swapo and and all kind of liberation armies all over the world, the same bunch of useful idiots. They were trained at Lumumba University and various centers of the KGB in Simferopol, in in Crimea, and in Tashkent.
So when I saw that India Indian territory is being used as a as a jumping board to destroy East Pakistan, I saw myself thousands of of so called students traveling through India to East Pakistan, through the territory of India, and Indian government pretended not to see what what's going on. They knew perfectly well. The Indian police knew it. The intelligence department of Indian government knew it. The KGB, of course, knew it, and the CIA knew it.
That that was most infuriating because when I defected and I explained to the CIA debriefers, they should watch out because East Pakistan is going to erupt any moment. They said I I I was I was reading too too many James Bond novels. Anyway, so East Pakistan was doomed. One of my colleagues in in the Soviet consulate in Calcutta, when he was dead drunk, he ventured into the basement to to relieve himself. And he found the big boxes, which said printed matter to Dhaka University.
Dhaka is a capitalist, Pakistan. And since he was drunk and curious, he opened one of the boxes, and he discovered not printed matter. He discovered Kalashnikov guns and ammunition in there. Anyway, it's a long story. When I saw the the preparations for the for the invasion into East Pakistan, obviously, I wanted to defect immediately.
The only thing I couldn't I couldn't, at that time, make up my mind when and where and how. One of the reasons, of course, you see, I was In love with India, I mentioned it before. I spoke the languages. I socialized with people, and I understood that I had to to act fast unless I want this beautiful country to be permanently and irreparably damaged by our presence. One of the reasons not to defect was, as you can see, I was living in relative affluence.
Who the hell in in in the normal mind would defect and do what? To be abused by your media? To be called McCarthyist and fascists and paranoid or to drive a taxi in New York City. What for? What the hell for should I defect?
To be abused by by Americans, to be insulted in exchange for for my effort to bring the truthful information about impending danger subversion. As you can see, I was living in quite a comfortable conditions next to swimming pool where Indians were not allowed, by the way. I was highly paid expert in propaganda. I had my family. I was respected by my nation.
My career was cloudless. The third reason, how to defect with the family? To the fact that the baby and the wife would be virtual suicide because according to the law, that hypocritical law which I quoted before, The Indian police will have to hand me over back to the KGB, and that will be the end of my defection and probably my life. Again, I cannot smuggle my wife because she was not quite sure what what I was doing. She was not that idealistically involved, and she was definitely not In in in the total picture, what I was doing for the KGB, she would be shocked if I if I, You know, put her in my van and and drive her to American embassy or elsewhere.
That would be a greatest danger. So, again, I had to defect in such a way that my defection would look as simple disappearance. And there were many cases like that When the Soviet agents simply disappeared, either killed in action or thanks to their curiosity and and their close contacts radical. Some of them were killed by the Marxist, by the way. It happened in many African countries when the Soviet KGB were killed by Africans themselves.
Not because they hated Marxist Leninist, but because they were simply trigger happy bunch of unruly characters. If you give them machine gun, they will shoot. And some of the Soviets, obviously, were not careful enough to protect themselves, and they got into embarrassing situations when they were shot at the crossfire between factions of of so called liberation movements. Anyway, so I I decided, as I said, to study the, counterculture. I decided this probably would be the best way to disappear.
I socialized with characters like this on the left. You See, he's a barefoot American hippie. It took me quite a long time to study exactly what they were doing and how to mix with them, But eventually, I did it. Most of Indian newspapers carried my picture and promise of 2,000 rupees for information about my whereabouts, But they were looking for wrong person because they obviously tried to stop, young Soviet diplomat in white shirt and tie, and this is how I looked at the time of defection. Nobody could possibly think that the Soviet diplomat would be as crazy as to join a bunch of hippies.
That's you. Yes. Travel Indian small cash. So I made it literally almost like a Hollywood style detective story. From under the nose of the KGB in Bombay Airport, I landed the plane, and I flew to to Greece where I was debriefed by the CIA.
That's basically most that's all for for my slides.
Speaker 1: We can turn off the projector, and that's very interesting. Well, you spoke several times before about ideological subversion. That is a phrase that, I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand. When, the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by it?
Speaker 0: Ideological subversion is is the process which is legitimate, overt, and open. You you can see it with your own eyes. All all you have to do, all American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes, and they can see it. There is no mystery. There is nothing to do with espionage.
I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising, probably. That's why Your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of of thrillers. But in reality, The main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such.
The other 85% is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of of the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is To change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, No one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing, process which goes very slow and is divided in in 4 basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years?
Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to, educate 1 generation of students in the country of of of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of of of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism. The result the result you can see, most of the people who graduated in dropouts or half baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, Business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them.
They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic Perception and the logic of behavior. In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible.
To get rid society of these people, you have you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the United States society.
Speaker 1: And yet these people who've been programmed and, as you say, in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept, These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country.
Speaker 0: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock, When when they will see in future what the what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, Obviously, they will revolt. They they they will, they they will be very unhappy, frustrated people. And Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. They obviously, they will join the links of dissenters dissidents.
Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in in future Marxist Leninist America. Here, you can you can get, popular like, Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This, they don't understand, and, it will be greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years. Actually, it's overfulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously, not even Comrad von Drokov and and all his Experts would would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, Thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.
The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until He he's going to receive a kick in the in his fat bottom. When a military boot crashes his then he will understand, But not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization. So, basically, America is stuck with with demoralization.
And unless Even if if you start right now, here, this minute, you start educating new generation of Americans, it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of, of ideological perception of reality, back to normal normalcy and and, patriotism. The next stage is destabilization. This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flab, it doesn't matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation.
It's what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as defense and economy. The influence of Marxist Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed, in this part of the world that the process will go that fast. The next stage, of course, is crisis.
It it it may take only up to 6 weeks to to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in in Central America now. And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have so called the period of Normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda.
When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 'sixty 8, Comrade Brezhiev said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in United States if you allow all the schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on Earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition and to put a big brother government in Washington, DC with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale, who will promise lots of things. Never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of of new generation of Soviet assassins. Never mind.
He will create false illusions that the situation is under control. Situation is not under control. Situation is disgustingly out of control. Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at a peacetime. False.
United States is in the state of war, undeclared total war against the basic principles and the foundations of of this system. And and the initiator of this war is not comrade Dondropov, of course. It's it's the system. However ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy, whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If if you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you.
But you don't have to be paranoid about it. What what actually happens now that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. The the time bomb is ticking. With every second, The disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins.
This is it. This is the last country of freedom and possibility.
Speaker 1: Okay. So what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people?
Speaker 0: Well, the the the immediate thing that comes to my mind is, of course, there must be a very strong National effort to educate people in in in the spirit of real patriotism, number 1. Number 2, to to explain them the real danger of socialist, communist, whatever, welfare state, big brother government. If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, nothing ever can help United States, you may kiss goodbye to your freedom, including freedoms to to homosexuals, to prison inmate. All this freedom will vanish, evaporate in in 5 seconds, including your precious lives. Including your precious lives.
The second thing I the moment At least part of the United States population is convinced that the danger is real. They have to force their government. And I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, noble activity. I am talking about and all this beautiful noble activity. I am talking about forcing United States government to stop aiding communism Because there is no other problem more burning and and urgent than to stop the Soviet military industrial complex from destroying what is whatever is left of the free world.
And it is very easy to do. No credits, no technology, No money, no political or diplomatic recognition. And, of course, no such EDS as great deals to USSR. The Soviet people, 270,000,000 of of Soviets, will be eternally thankful to you if you stop aiding a bunch of murderers who sit now in Kremlin and whom President Reagan respectfully calls government. They do not govern anything, least of all such complexity as the Soviet economy.
So basic 2 2 very simple, maybe 2 simplistic answers or solutions. But never nevertheless, they are the only solutions. Educate yourself. Understand what's going on around you. You are not living at the time of peace.
You are in a state of war, and you have precious little time to save yourself. You don't have much time, especially if you are talking about young generation. There's not much time left for convulsions to the beautiful, disco music. Very soon, it will go Just just overnight. If we are talking about capitalists or or or wealthy businessmen, they I think they are selling the rope on which they will hang very soon.
If they don't stop, if they cannot curb their unsettled desire for profit, And if they keep on trading with the monster of the Soviet communism, they are going to hang very soon. And it they will pray to be killed, But, unfortunately, they will be sent to Alaska probably to manage industry of slaves. It's it's simplistic. I know it sounds Pleasant. I know Americans don't like to listen to things which are unpleasant, but I have defected not to tell you the stories about such idiocy As microfilm James Bond type espionage, this is garbage.
You don't need any espionage anymore. I have come to talk about survival. It's a question of survival of this system. You may ask me, what is it in for me? Survival, obviously, because unlike I as I said, I am now in your boat.
If if we sing together, we'll sing beautifully Together, there is no other place on this planet to defect to.
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KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov warned about ideological subversion in the West, aiming to change Americans' perception of reality. This brainwashing process occurs in four stages, starting with demoralization, which takes 15 to 20 years to achieve. Marxist-Leninist ideology is being taught to multiple generations of American students. Watch the full interview for more details.
@JanJekielek - Jan Jekielek
KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov's 1984 warning to the West: "Ideological subversion…or psychological warfare, what it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent, that despite the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow, and it's divided in four basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy, expose [them] to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxist-Leninist ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students."
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Yuri Bezmenov, a former KGB defector, warned America about Soviet subversion in the 1980s. He highlighted the slow process of ideological subversion, demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization. Bezmenov urged Americans to educate themselves on the dangers of socialism and communism to protect their freedom. The speaker emphasizes the importance of individual awakening and reclaiming creativity to counter divisive messages. It is time for people to realize their role in the awakening and take action to bring truth and light in dark times.
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Speaker 0: We've talked offline a lot about Yuri Bisminoff. Yes. And Yuri Bisminoff, back in the eighties, I think it was 1984. Ironically. Ironically or unironically.
I I don't know actually these days. Right? He he talked about subversion. He talked about active measures. He talks in a language, and you've put together this, you know, amazing short to kind of that encapsulates, you know, all of his ideas that he was trying to desperately share in 1984 or earlier.
Right? That when we see them today, we're thinking, my god. This has all happened. I mean, was it was the oppression? Like, what or or did this actually happen?
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the scary part really and why I I keep drawing from historic warnings, like the work that I featured in The Great Awakening with G. Edward Griffin and his historic war warning in the sixties. He was telling everyone that communism was not dead, it was coming and and and that we need to be aware. And then in 1984, that same man, G. Edward Griffin, interviewed Yuri Besmanov.
And here we have a KGB defector, a man who escaped once he realized truly what kind of psycho logical subversion that the, Soviet forces were forcing upon other nations around the world. And he made the trek to America, risked his life in a really, really, high fashion in the sense that if they knew what he where he was coming or what he was doing, he would have been taken out immediately. I I mean, the bravery and the courage that it took for this man to come here, to go on camera, and to warn America what was coming and and that there was something invisible. And that's that's the real terrifying part of this, is that that we know how to navigate military war, but when it's a psychological war, when it's invisible, when it's happening happening in such a way that that even really wise intelligent people can't perceive, that's the stuff that gets to even the protected. And so he came here to let us know what was taking place, and he was shocked in the eighties because he didn't realize he'd only see visions of America already already had reached in the United States, and it was shocking to him.
So already already had reached in the United States, and it was shocking to him. So he took it upon himself to do interview after interview to warn us, America, let me tell you from my perspective as a former KGB propagandist, this is what's happening to to the minds of your people, and you need to be very careful because, as he said in the film, time bomb is ticking, and the danger is coming closer and closer.
Speaker 2: The the time bomb is ticking. With every second, the disaster is coming closer and closer.
Speaker 1: And no one listened to him. And I think one of the deadliest things that any nation has ever said is that it can never happen here. And we've been saying that for too long, and now, unfortunately, it's happening here.
Speaker 3: Our conversation is with mister Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmianoff. He escaped to the west in 1970 after becoming totally disgusted with the Soviet system, and he did this at great risk to his life. He certainly is one of the world's outstanding experts on the subject of Soviet propaganda and disinformation and active measures. When, the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by that?
Speaker 2: Ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of of the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing, process, which goes very slow, and it's divided in in 4 basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation.
Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years, which requires to, educate 1 generation of students in the country of of of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of of of at least 3 generations of American students. The next stage is destabilization. What matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems.
And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as as, defense and economy, The influence of Marxist Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed, in this part of the world that the process will go that fast. The next stage, of course, is crisis. It it it may take only up to 6 weeks to to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in in Central America now.
And after crisis, with a violent change of of power, structure, and economy, you have so called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely.
Speaker 3: What do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people?
Speaker 2: Well, the the, the immediate thing that comes to my mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in, in, in the spirit of real patriotism, number 1. Number 2, to to explain them the real danger of socialist, communist, whatever, welfare state, big brother government, if people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, Nothing ever can help United States. You may kiss goodbye to your freedom. I as I said, I am now in your boat. If if we sing together, we'll sing beautifully together.
There is no other place on this planet to defect to.
Speaker 0: He was just seeing something that was actually happening. And I think to myself, you know, how is it that so many of us just simply didn't grasp this at all? I mean, like, not even a bit for the longest time.
Speaker 1: It's time for all people to realize that we play a part in this awakening, that we all do. There's been this well, by design, we've been wired to wait for the superhero to sweep in to save us. And it's never happened, and it never will happen. There's a real true calling if you understand what, the work of Joseph Campbell and the hero's journey. What the hero always discovered on the journey ultimately, so much so that it's become cliche through a lot of the iconic movies that have used the hero journey structure, and that is the forces within, we are the one, we are the ones we have been waiting for, whatever the line is.
The hero goes out to find the reluctant hero goes out to find the hero, only to discover that the journey was building him or her up to the point that they could dissolve everything that wasn't the hero, so they could stand and truly awaken to the fact that they are the one they've been waiting for. And so, you know, I think that is a very important message for the masses to understand right now, that that it is like the cells in the body of an organism, all of us bring life, and all of us matter. And when the cells are fighting and when the cells are stagnant, the body the organism is not healthy. And so it's time for us to revive that call for life, that call to procreate, that that call to, take back our creative talents, our creative genius, our music and everything has been hijacked with with these demeaning and demoralizing and divisive messages, and that's our creativity. And we need to reclaim that and bring our truth and the light to shine into these dark moments.
And for me, that is that is what we've been building towards for generations. And when I look at it from that perspective, I feel very fortunate to be alive in this moment and to get to play some little role in this awakening.
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This North Korean explains how communism starts. Brainwashing students. Listen to every word. https://t.co/37yWA0h8tr
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Tyranny arises under the guise of compassion and equality. At Columbia, classmates were being taught that education should be free, healthcare is a human right, and wealth inequality is unfair.
Kim Il-sung used similar rhetoric to initiate the North Korean regime. He told the speaker's grandparents that it was unfair that they were landowners and capitalists, and that their children had to pay for education. Kim Il-sung promised to make everything free if they relinquished private property, freedom of speech, and freedom of movement.
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Speaker 0: Tyranny always comes in the name of compassion and equality of outcomes. When I was at Columbia, they are brainwashing my classmates saying education should be free. Health care is a human right. How unfair is it that there are billionaires and there are homeless people? It should be we are all equal.
This same idea began the living hell of North Korea. When Kim Il sung came to my grandmothers and my grandfather, he said these 2 exact thing to us. How unfair is that? They are landowners. They are capitalists.
And how unfair is that your children cannot be educated. You need to pay for it. If you give me the power, Kim Il sung said, I'm going to make everything free. Government was gonna provide everything for us if we just gave up our private property, our freedom of speech, our freedom of movement.
@DefiyantlyFree - Insurrection Barbie
“American people are the most propagandized people in the whole world and they don’t even know it.” This clip is brutally honest. https://t.co/eG8HsY7Rxg
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Americans are heavily propagandized, often unaware of it. Unlike people in countries like China or the old Soviet Union, Americans believe they are receiving the truth from cable news. It's concerning when prominent figures like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow echo the same narratives. Those who speak out against the war machine, like Julian Assange, face consequences for telling the truth. Many accept what they see on news without question. The shift in the Democratic Party is evident; at the recent convention, there was a lack of critical thought, with attendees cheering for billionaires and the war machine. Conversations reveal a troubling indifference to the party's actions, such as the treatment of Kamala Harris and the dismissal of dissenting voices. The focus on issues like abortion seems superficial, reflecting a deeper disconnect within the party.
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Speaker 0: Americans are the most propagandized people in the entire world, and they don't have any idea that they are. You know, at least people in China know they're being propagandized. The people in the old Soviet Union knew it was propaganda. People in America turn on Anderson Cooper, turn on, Rachel Maddow, Sean Hannity. They think they're getting the truth.
They really do. They think, you know, hey. Don't you think it's a little weird when Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow are saying the exact same thing about Ukraine? Don't you think that's weird?
Speaker 1: Well, yes. In fact, I did. It's funny you mentioned that.
Speaker 0: Yeah. And so, you know, I try to remind people that, you know, that you got fired not because you were going along with the wars and telling the lies of the wars. When you were going along with the Iraq war, they couldn't give you enough TV shows. Right? You were on CNN.
You MSNBC. Your number one guest was Rachel Maddow, then you had the number one show on Fox. It was when you started to tell the truth. They don't fire you for lying about wars. They don't they fire you for telling the truth about the wars, and that's just same reason why Julian Assange was in prison.
He wasn't in prison because he lied about the war machine. He was in prison because he told the truth. And that's what people need to realize. And I try to I ask people when I have these conversations with my old liberal friends from Hollywood, the ones who still talk to me, and I'll say, is there anything you hear on cable news that you don't believe? Is there anything?
And you know what? They never say anything back. They never say, well, I don't believe that. They never say anything. They just change the subject or move on to something else.
Speaker 2: You really think they're just accepting the whole sandwich? Yes. Just swallowing without chewing.
Speaker 0: Just Yes. And that was the, you know, beginning of the end for me was, when I wouldn't go along with Hillary Clinton because I was a big I've always been a liberal progressive, and, I supported Bernie Sanders. I thought we were really close to doing something. At that convention in 2016 in Philadelphia, I was there, and you walked into the convention hall, and half the people in there wanted to overthrow the democratic establishment. Half the people there wanted to get corporate money out of politics, and there was lots of friction.
They were turning the lights out. They were using sound can. It was and it really felt like we were about to do something. Right? And then I went to the last convention just this year in Chicago, and it was like a stepford's wife's convention.
It was brainwashed, brain dead, go alongs. Nobody had a a thought in their head. Nope. There was there's cheering on billionaires and cheering on the war machine, and it was grown. CIA director.
Bill billionaires on stage from from, you know, Oprah talking about how she's a victim of sexism and racism. That was one of the funniest things. That's like, Oprah, since I've been in college, she's been a highly touted celebrity with her own television show. There might have been a time in her life when she was discriminated against, but, boy, she certainly made up for it. And for her to be the voice of that was really disgusting.
And then you had, you know, Pritzker come on stage. I'm a real billionaire, and people are cheering like, is this the Democratic Party? The Democratic Party And so that's what happened with Bill Clinton. They treat
Speaker 2: you, by the way, at the convention?
Speaker 0: I couldn't stay there a lot. I had a pass to be on the floor. It honestly, it depressed me, to the point of almost tears, and I would go up to people. I would go up to delegates, and I would say, does it bother you that the the the party who's putting democracy on the ballot, throughout 14,000,000 ballots and installed Kamala Harris. And to a person, they would all say there was a process.
She followed the process. They didn't care. Nobody cared. They don't care anything. They didn't care that she didn't get a vote.
They don't care that they threw out the guy who did get a vote. They don't care that they were lied to about his mental, his dementia for years. They didn't mind. Nothing. Nothing.
And they were all about it was the only it was and they talk about abortion at the convention like it's a day it's like it's Christmas. And, you know, like, hey. I'm I I always, you know, like Bill Lib Lib the old Liberals, I always was like, you know, let's let's make, abortion safe, legal, and rare.
@SMO_VZ - 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐙
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President Putin sent a draft treaty to NATO, demanding a promise not to expand further, which was a precondition for avoiding war in Ukraine. NATO enlargement is not the true issue; the conflict is fundamentally about democracy and Putin's desire to rebuild a Soviet-like empire. Ukraine's actions, such as banning political parties and restricting freedoms, highlight the struggle for democratic values. The narrative surrounding NATO is a distraction, as Putin's aggression resembles historical tyrants like Hitler. The situation reflects a broader ambition for power rather than a direct response to NATO's presence. Negotiating with such a leader poses significant challenges, as history shows that appeasement often fails.
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Speaker 0: President Putin actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what what he sent us. And that was that that was a precondition for not invade Ukraine. Of course, we didn't sign that. So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO across his borders.
Flashback. This is fundamentally not about NATO expansion.
Speaker 1: It's never about NATO enlargement. It's not about NATO. It's not about NATO expanding toward Russia.
Speaker 2: This was never about NATO.
Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing to do with NATO expansionism.
Speaker 2: And it has nothing to do with NATO. This is not about NATO. It's not really about NATO.
Speaker 1: This is not about NATO.
Speaker 2: Seriously, it's not about NATO. This was never about NATO.
Speaker 1: It was never about NATO.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. This doesn't have anything to do
Speaker 1: with NATO?
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with NATO at all. Yeah. He's claiming it's, like, security purposes, but we can see the clear reason.
Speaker 0: But NATO is not the reason.
Speaker 1: This is not about NATO expansion.
Speaker 2: This is about the democratic expansion.
Speaker 1: Ukraine bans religious organizations. We are protecting democracy right now. Ukraine is banning political parties. Because it's a democracy. Ukraine restricts books and music.
It's about democracy. Ukraine won't hold elections. It's about democracy.
Speaker 2: It's not about NATO expansion.
Speaker 3: This war in Ukraine
Speaker 2: is not about NATO. It's not about NATO. It's not about NATO. It has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with NATO. Nothing to do with NATO expansion.
Speaker 3: It's not about NATO expansion.
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with with NATO. It isn't really about NATO.
Speaker 1: It's not about NATO.
Speaker 2: It's not about NATO enlargement.
Speaker 1: In fact, it has nothing to do with NATO. It's not about NATO encroachment. It's not about NATO encroachment. It's not about NATO encroachment. It's not about NATO.
NATO is just
Speaker 2: as a fictious imaginary adversary for
Speaker 1: for for mister Putin and for Russia. It was never about NATO.
Speaker 2: That's not what it's been about. It's been about him trying to
Speaker 3: expand Hang on. I mean, the 2 are not mutually exclusive. Obviously, Russia has wished for a sphere of influence. Over if the west had not challenged Russian interests so directly, I think that there there was a chance to avoid this war.
Speaker 0: He wanted us to sign the promise never to enlarge NATO. We rejected that.
Speaker 1: The reason why Putin invaded Ukraine is because of his evil Evil.
Speaker 0: It's about that Putin wants to rebuild Soviet empire of evil like president Reagan told.
Speaker 1: It's about Putin being sick.
Speaker 3: I don't
Speaker 1: know how you negotiate peace with a madman,
Speaker 2: but nobody negotiated with Hitler.
Speaker 1: People were comparing him to Hitler.
Speaker 2: To Hitler. Remember Hitler?
Speaker 1: He's a Hitler. We're back when the Nazis invaded Poland. This is exactly the same what Hitler was doing to choose.
Speaker 2: This is the same. Putin will not stop.
Speaker 1: Putin is reminiscent of Hitler. Hitler. This reminds me of Hitler. Hitler. Hitler.
He's the new Hitler.
Speaker 2: Well, Hitler
Speaker 1: This is about a butcher trying to kill people everywhere in the world, just not Ukraine, Syria, all over the place. I hear you. Senator Lindsey Graham, always great to talk to you. Thanks so much. Thank you.
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Братья Донбасса обратились к России за помощью, и было принято решение о проведении специальной военной операции.
Brothers from Donbass appealed to Russia for assistance, leading to the decision to conduct a special military operation.
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Speaker 0: Братья Донбасса обратились к России с просьбой о помощи. Мы приняли решение о ходе проведения специальной военной операции.
@AnonymousDigs - Anon Researcher
@TuckerCarlson continues to blow Russia/Ukraine narratives wide open! https://youtu.be/IYDFzdBQ7SY?si=KJcE0EIWAjZGdqIh
@elonmusk - Elon Musk
Thoughtful rebuttal of propaganda https://t.co/VAGgeo8wYS
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The speakers discuss an anti-Elon Musk/Tesla protest in Ottawa, calling it ridiculous and questioning what Musk has done to warrant it, citing his companies, environmental efforts, and work with the American government. One speaker claims protesters cited a Nazi salute and Musk's involvement with DOGE as reasons for their dislike.
They discuss the coordination of anti-Trump protests and the lack of pre-made signs, linking it to USAID funding cuts. They also mention protesters yelling "Nazi truck alert" at a passing Cybertruck.
The speakers criticize the Department of Education and the state of schools, suggesting that intentional dumbing down may be occurring due to the rise of AI. One speaker says that people against Elon Musk need to do more research and not take ideas from one source. He also notes that many conservative figures are actually libertarians or former liberals who left because the liberal side is "nuts." He saw a poster circulating online depicting Cybertrucks in a Tiananmen Square style image.
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Speaker 0: So what do you think of this anti Elon Musk pro anti Tesla protest happening right here in Ottawa right now? What do think of that?
Speaker 1: One, think it's ridiculous that's happening here in Ottawa, Canada. So far away from what Elon Musk is doing in America. Secondly, what has Elon Musk done to really ruin anybody's well-being or lives to to warrant something like this? All he's been doing is he's he's been creating great companies that that represent, you know, good values. He's trying to hopefully improve the environment with with electric cars.
Although, I mean, we can debate about whether or not the batteries are good for things like that. He just saved a bunch of astronauts Yeah. From being stuck at the space station. Yes. That's him, his company that did that.
But what's he doing for the American government? He's cutting waste and fraud? He's auditing them? Is that why we're mad at him?
Speaker 0: And you know what? That's interesting because I had a conversation with some of these people earlier asking them, why do they hate Elon? First of all, they're gonna throw that he did a he did a Nazi salute. What do you think about that Nazi salute apparently?
Speaker 1: I think that is a a clearly a person who is socially awkward saying his heart goes out to you, and it looked like a Nazi salute. He didn't think that through. Why would he publicly do a Nazi salute if he was a Nazi?
Speaker 0: Doesn't make any sense. So and I they also told me so I asked him, what has Elon done wrong? And the one answer they gave me is that Dodge. What do you think about Dodge?
Speaker 1: No. I mean, so honestly, all Dodge Dodge has done is is is show waste and fraud. Like, a lot of it's ridiculous waste. And we, like, we don't even know how much of that is people recycling money back in to their own pockets and taking in actual fraud and and and washing money.
Speaker 0: That's interesting because I brought that up to them and about specifically the backroom deals and the kickbacks to left wing groups. Because at these protests, even in The United States, look at them. It's a it's a coordinated thing. It's in every city in The US today.
Speaker 1: The website.
Speaker 0: And and then there's the fifty fifty o one or whatever, the the big anti Trump protest today. And if you look at all of these protests in all these places, there's not one manufactured sign. It's all these cardboard cutout signs and homemade homemade arts and crafts signs. You're not seeing those premade signs anymore. Is that a coincidence now that USAID is not funded?
Like, what's going on there?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that that is an an interesting way to look at it. I for sure. But I mean That's a cool thing. I I also, I feel like
Speaker 0: They're yelling Nazi truck alert as there is a cyber truck coming down.
Speaker 1: Oh, where is it?
Speaker 0: Yes. So we'll get that in a second. But, man, what are you thinking about that USAID?
Speaker 1: One that was parked around by back oh, yeah. You USAID was clearly one of the most fraudulent and and wasteful companies in America. But I I just no matter what, I don't understand how democrats or liberals in general are are still looking at and seeing all of this and still think that they're on the right side of history.
Speaker 0: It's a it's an I think it's an issue also with losing power. There's a there's a dynamic there. And they're really influenced by what talking heads on TV say. Like, they take it to heart. They believe it almost full heartedly.
They don't question anything they're told. So when they hear this, they get really worked up and emotional. I really think that's a source of a lot of this. It's the stuff that's going on social media, the stuff especially on the TV news broadcast. Oh, Elon Musk is doing this.
He's doing this. He's taking, you know, lunch away from school children, and they they hear that and they get upset. I think that's part of it. What do
Speaker 1: you think? And and well, honestly, I think, like, as far as the most recent cut, which I don't know if it was DOGE that did it, but it had to do with the education system, the the Department of Education. That is one of the things that maybe it would be a lot easier for people to to argue, oh, no. That's definitely very bad. We're taking money away from these schools.
But when you really dig into it, what's that money ever done for the schools? The kids are coming out stupider and stupider and stupider every year.
Speaker 0: Here comes the Tesla Cybertruck. Let's see how the crowd reacts. Whoo. Crowd not pleased by that Cybertruck coming through here. Sorry about that, man.
Yeah. So what what has the Department of Education done? You look at in Chicago, for example, I think it was reported a couple days ago, dozens of schools where nobody can read at grade level.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I I was hearing all about, the fact that there are dozens of schools where, these kids can barely read. And who knows? Some of that might have to do with some of the the the year of no school because of COVID. It could have to do with a lot of things, but just overall, schools are are bringing people like, you know, the education system is coming down a
Speaker 0: little bit.
Speaker 1: And to some extent, it might be intentional because how intelligent do they need us to be now when humans aren't even gonna be doing most of the thinking going forward? The AI is gonna be doing it, and that's the reality of it. Only our most brilliant are gonna be needed. Anybody with an average brain isn't gonna be
Speaker 0: needed to be doing it. I think
Speaker 1: And it's a lot better when you're not thinking. You're just following the message.
Speaker 0: Matt, so you think this is kinda leading to dystopia almost? This kind of
Speaker 1: I'm this kind of thinking, definitely, if we push back again it against it and we let the pendulum swing back
Speaker 0: It's an interesting that this guy's
Speaker 1: got here. But no matter what, AI AI is gonna be a problem. Who's better? Communist or Trump?
Speaker 0: Who's better? Communist or This is yeah, man. You you meet all kinds here. He's the communist is on his way to the bank, I guess. Can you write this stuff?
You can't write this stuff. You cannot write this stuff. Alright. You talking to the bank. Exactly.
You just went to the bank.
Speaker 1: Capitalism for you. How long we've been to one You forgot it.
Speaker 0: Alright. So if you could say something to these people, what would your message to them be? Like, if you could really get something through to them, what would
Speaker 1: you do? Really want them to do more research than the surface level because I I I really don't understand how people could be against Elon Musk without doing proper research. And if they are only taking all their ideas from one source, one side of the aisle, like, I'm willing to absorb information from both sides. The other thing is a lot of conservative figures nowadays, they're not even truly conservative. There are libertarians that flipped over.
There are liberals that flipped over because the liberal side is nuts. It's insane. They're losing their mind, and that's why they're losing people.
Speaker 0: Yeah, man. Like Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1: What's the last Like Elon. You heard of. What's the last conservative you heard of that flipped the Liberals? They happened.
Speaker 0: It's rare. So are you here today to to see this?
Speaker 1: Yes. I wanted to see when I saw the poster
Speaker 0: The poster is ridiculous. The Tiananmen Square stuff, man. Like, that's that's insulting.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I don't know that I saw anything crazy like that. I just saw that this
Speaker 0: Well, it's the poster that I saw. City,
Speaker 1: and I said, hey. I wanna see what these people look like. And luckily, they're all gray. So that's a good sign because it means that the young people are smart enough to not be caught up in this garbage.
Speaker 0: That's true. That's true. And you know what? I'll tell you this poster was circulating on the Ottawa Reddit and other places. It was Tesla takedown, and it's a picture of two cyber trucks, I believe, in the Tiananmen Square style piece with a person standing in front of
Speaker 1: the the cyber trucks. Okay. So, yeah, that was what I saw, but I
Speaker 0: communicate something. Hopefully, if that doesn't work, people hear this.
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 0: Thank you, Marcus. No problem.
@amuse - @amuse
COLOR REVOLUTION: This 1984 interview with a former Soviet KGB officer describes what the Democrats have been doing to America. Yuri Bezmenov explains the four stages of "ideological subversion" used by Marxists to undermine Western societies. https://t.co/VpMOlZh7IZ
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Ideological subversion, or active measures, aims to change Americans' perception of reality, hindering their ability to defend themselves and their country. This brainwashing process has four stages, starting with demoralization, which takes 15-20 years, the time to educate a generation with the enemy's ideology, like Marxism-Leninism. The speaker claims demoralization in the U.S. is complete, exceeding expectations due to a lack of moral standards.
The next stage, destabilization, focuses on essentials like the economy and defense, taking 2-5 years. The influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in these areas is supposedly significant. Crisis follows, potentially taking only six weeks, leading to a violent power shift and normalization, a term the speaker says is borrowed from Soviet propaganda. Leftists are used to destabilize the nation, but once their job is done, they are eliminated. The speaker warns of a ticking time bomb, emphasizing that unlike him, Americans have nowhere to defect.
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Speaker 0: Ideological subversion is is the slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and it's divided in in four basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from fifteen to twenty years to demoralize a nation.
Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of of of your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of of of at least three generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism. The demoralization process in The United States is basically completed already, for the last twenty five years. Actually, it's overfulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even comrade Andropov and and all his experts would would even dream of such a tremendous success.
Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he he is going to receive a kick in the in his fat bottom.
When the military boot crashes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization. The next stage is destabilization. This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flab, it doesn't matter anymore.
This time, and it takes only from two to five years to destabilize a nation, It's what what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as as defense and economy. The influence of Marxist Leninist ideas in The United States is absolutely fantastic. I I could never believe it fourteen years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast. The next stage, of course, is crisis.
It it it may take only up to six weeks to to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in in Central America now. And after crisis, with a violent change of of power, structure, and economy, you have so called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda.
When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in '68, comrade Brezhov said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in United States if you allow all these schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on earth to to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government in Washington DC with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of thing. Never mind whether the promises are fulfillable or not. Your leftists in in United States, all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders, they are instrumental in the process of the of the, subversion only to destabilize the nation. When their job is completed, they are none they are not needed anymore.
They know too much. Some of them, when when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist Lenin has come to power, obviously, get offended. They think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot.
But they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist Leninists when they come to power. And that's what happened in Nicaragua. You remember most of these, former Marxist Leninists were either put to prison or one of them split, and now he's working against Saint Denistas. It happened in in, Granada when Maurice Bishop was he was already a Marxist. He was executed by by a new Marxist who was more Marxist than this Marxist.
Same happened in Afghanistan when, first, there was Taraki. He was killed by Amin. Then Amin was killed by Babrakarma with the help of KGB. Same happened in in Bangladesh when Mounjibur Rahman, very pro Soviet leftist, was assassinated by his own Marxist Leninist military comrades. It's the same pattern everywhere.
The the time bomb is ticking. But every second, the disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to.
@MediaRival - Darrin McBreen
Learn from the past or fall for the lies again. A gripping tale of propaganda that sold wars then—and still does. Watch ‘The Art of Selling War’! 🕵️♂️ #Propaganda https://t.co/Vrm3EoaMIh
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This transcript details how a staged Kuwaiti testimony helped sell the Gulf War. A tearful teenage Kuwaiti girl known only as Nayyura described Iraqi soldiers storming hospitals and removing incubators, claims broadcast. The testimony was presented as raw and unforgettable, boosting support for intervention. It later emerged that Nuria/Nayyara’s story was organized by a front group close to the Bush administration—Citizens for a Free Kuwait—with Hill and Nalton, a PR firm with CIA ties, aiming to sway congressional opinion to war. Nayyera was given acting lessons; the incubator narrative became the centerpiece, amplified by Hollywood and a 'we are the world' style video, topped by Whitney Houston’s Star Spangled Banner. The era introduced 24/7 live war coverage; CNN coverage faced questions about authenticity and staged elements, including piped sound effects and off-camera demeanor. The Kuwaiti girl's testimony is called a master class in propaganda, illustrating the art of selling war.
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Speaker 0: What you are about to witness is a chilling tale of government deception and propaganda, meticulously designed to rally public support for war. As you're about to see, these tactics have succeeded before, and they are prepared and equipped to manipulate us again. So this is a cautionary tale. This is the art of selling war. In 1990, during the run up to the Gulf War in Iraq, a tearful teenage Kuwaiti girl known only as Nayyura described a horrifying scene.
Iraqi soldiers storming hospitals in Kuwait, ripping babies from incubators, and leaving them to die on the cold floor.
Speaker 1: Mister chairman and members of the committee, my name is Nayira, and I just came out of Kuwait. While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns. They took the babies out of the incubators, took the incubators, and left the children to die on the cold floor.
Speaker 0: Her testimony was raw, emotional, and unforgettable. It was broadcast all across America. The news networks aired her story repeatedly. President George h w Bush referenced it in his speeches, and support for military intervention in the Gulf War skyrocketed.
Speaker 2: They had kids in incubators, and they were thrown out of the incubators so that Kuwait could be systematically dismantled. Babies pulled from incubators and scattered like firewood across the floor.
Speaker 1: It was horrifying.
Speaker 0: But there was a problem. Nayura's story was one big fat lie. Nayura wasn't an ordinary volunteer nurse as she claimed. No. She was Naria Al Saba, the daughter of Kuwaiti's ambassador to The United States and member of the Kuwaiti royal family.
The American public got scammed. Nuria's testimony was a carefully staged performance, and this is how it happened. Nayera's testimony was organized by a front group with close ties to the Bush administration. They came up with the name Citizens for a Free Kuwait, and they hired a powerful PR firm, Hill and Nalton, who had close ties to the CIA. Their objective, launch a massive propaganda campaign to sway public congressional opinion to go to war in Iraq.
Nayyera was even given acting lessons, and focus groups felt the incubator story would strongly resonate with the American people, and it did. It became the centerpiece, a lie so vivid it drowned out skepticism.
Speaker 3: Now is the time to check the aggression of this ruthless dictator whose troops have bayoneted pregnant women and have ripped babies from their incubators in Kuwait.
Speaker 4: Daylight brings only the digging of yet more graves
Speaker 5: as bodies Soon, there were reports of mass burials of premature babies in Kuwait dumped from incubators, which were then trucked to Baghdad. The Iraqis tore
Speaker 4: the respirators from their incubators.
Speaker 6: They stole the incubators and threw the babies out of the incubators.
Speaker 7: 22 newborn babies were in incubators at Athan Hospital, and the troops, the Iraqi troops, turned off the oxygen of those incubators.
Speaker 0: And then there's this guy. Holocaust survivor representative Tom Lantos was brought in to cochair the congressional human rights caucus. After all, he would recognize a Hitler if he saw one.
Speaker 8: Premature infants in incubators were sentenced to die by having the incubators removed and the children allowed to perish. Saddam Hussein has now unleashed on the people of Kuwait unspeakable horrors, and it is the responsibility of all of us to awaken an indifferent and disinterested world community to what this new Hitler means.
Speaker 2: And that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with Hitler revisited.
Speaker 0: And so began the American public's rally cry to support the Gulf War as a moral obligation. But just in case not everyone was on board, enter Hollywood. We praise
Speaker 9: to make the future future right. To make the wrong things right. We're all you remain strong. That's why we're all here and singing. The
Speaker 0: gulf war was now officially commercialized, reinforcing the narrative that it was a good war. And celebrities were brought in to capitalize on Hollywood's flair for spectacle. They produced a we are the world style music video. A compilation of celebrities got together to perform voices that care. That was played over and over again on MTV, CNN, Entertainment Tonight, and all the major news networks.
I mean, you couldn't go anywhere without seeing this music video. And if that didn't appeal to your patriotism, on the eve of Operation Desert Storm, who could ever forget the most iconic and powerful rendition of the Star Spangled Banner in history performed by Whitney Houston at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, the president of The United States.
Speaker 10: Good evening from the White House to everyone in the Sunshine State and around the world enjoying this wonderful game.
Speaker 11: What a pleasure it is to say hello to all the young people on the field tonight.
Speaker 10: But today, we should recognize the men and women in our armed forces far away from home. They protect freedom in the Persian Gulf and around the world. And just as we salute these brave Americans, let's remember their families on the field with you today in Tampa. To the children of these men and women, let me say that as this and every day draws to a close, it's your mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters who are the true champions, the true heroes in our country. Not only do they have the heartfelt thanks and gratitude of this president, but of all Americans as well.
Speaker 11: On behalf of the whole Bush family, thank you for allowing us to be with you tonight.
Speaker 10: And God bless you all, and God bless all freedom loving people around the world.
Speaker 0: When the war began, it was the first time in history when we could all watch live twenty four seven war coverage on television because of satellite technology. Little did we know at the time that it was the architects of war who had us glued to our TV screens. And there we all were watching it live on TV, drinking the Kool Aid, eating popcorn. To be honest, in many ways, this was entertainment.
Speaker 12: Air raid sirens are beginning to sound over Baghdad. The flashes continue throughout the sky. There's obviously an air raid underway right now. Skies over Baghdad have been illuminated. We're seeing bright flashes going off all over the sky.
This is extraordinary.
Speaker 3: If you're still with us, you can hear the bombs now. They're hitting the center of the city.
Speaker 9: Peter, we are hearing
Speaker 3: explosions now in Tel Aviv. There was a missile attack.
Speaker 13: The US government is confirming that there has been a missile attack on Tel Aviv. But you're reporting that a major building has been hit in Tel Aviv, that victims of a chemical warfare attack have been taken to a hospital.
Speaker 12: There were loud explosions, obviously bombing in at least three parts of the outskirts of the city.
Speaker 2: I gather that people throughout the country have been ordered to put their gas masks on.
Speaker 3: That's correct. Put the
Speaker 12: speed around it. We have heard this siren five times in the last four hours.
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how in the middle of the night this comes as
Speaker 12: an enormous shock to people. Obviously, an attack is underway. The whole sky lit up with these flashes continually. Oh, oh, now there's a huge fire that we've just seen that is a new west of our position and we just heard, woah, holy cow. That was a large air burst that we saw.
It was a thrilling time.
Speaker 1: Hello, Emma. Hello. And I think, John, that air burst took out a shallow communication.
Speaker 3: They broadcast the first reports. They may just have broadcast also the last reports live in Baghdad.
Speaker 0: When the bombs began to drop on Baghdad, CNN emerged as the global powerhouse in cable news with exclusive access to live satellite feeds from Iraq. CNN's reporters captivated worldwide. However, allegations have surfaced questioning the authenticity of some of CNN's coverage, particularly regarding the scud missile threat. The use of piped in sound effects.
Speaker 9: Hey. Could somebody please put that Jesus.
Speaker 0: And controlled camera angles, like never panning to the sky when scud missiles are coming in, suggest a staged setup. And the reporter's body language looks exaggerated, like a theatrical performance.
Speaker 9: I have to apologize for that. I I thought I whiffed something and felt momentarily, dizzy or more experienced.
Speaker 6: CD, if you need to take cover, I noticed, that you've got your gas mask in your hands. If you need to put
Speaker 1: it on,
Speaker 6: please do so. If you need to take cover, please do so.
Speaker 0: There were also off camera moments that have surfaced, revealing that during commercial breaks, the crew's demeanor changed abruptly. As soon as the live feeds cut off, they were suddenly relaxed and even laughing and joking with each other.
Speaker 3: Boy, did I almost look stupid.
Speaker 0: But when they went back to live coverage, the theatrical threat of scud missile attacks continued.
Speaker 9: Oh, we heard another dull lure that shook things a little bit, and we're waiting to see what else is going on. Right now, that's about, oh, no. That something is happening with really pops and things shaking.
Speaker 0: The Kuwaiti girls' testimony was a master class in propaganda. Take an emotional story, amplify it through the media, and use it to shape policy and manipulate the masses. Today, the tools have evolved through more sophisticated news cycles and social media. But the strategy remains the same, craft a narrative, pull our heartstrings, and drown out the truth. Nuria's testimony showed how easily public opinion can be swayed when powerful interest control the story.
So be aware. Now you know the art of selling war.
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Rick Sanchez: War Propaganda & Suffocating Censorship Weaken the West https://youtu.be/yvtctPX2sI8 https://t.co/6glVh5h1tj
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Rick Sanchez and Glenn discuss how western and Russian media frame the Ukraine war, the state of journalism, and prospects for ending the conflict.
Rick Sanchez explains that in the United States, the media operates with Pentagon and State Department correspondents who are fed lines to read on air, often about “new documents proving that such and such a bad person” and then follow with praise for allies. He says many correspondents are good people but their job is to articulate the narrative dictated by those institutions, leaving little room for his pushback or for challenging the official line. He notes he was on CNN with a big show and tried to question those narratives, but was pushed off the air or fired when he did. He contrasts his experience in the U.S. with his current environment, where he has more editorial freedom, and argues that in the United States, leadership rarely covers the other side—Putin, Xi, Modi—beyond brief comebacks on comedy shows, while in Russia he can access ministers and officials and report what they say more directly.
He recounts Putin’s remarks last night, noting Putin said “The US media has become in many ways what we used to do back during the Soviet era,” that they block and interfere, and that “Russia has the best intercontinental weapon in the world today, and it's called truth.” Rick emphasizes the difference in how truth and free speech are treated, pointing out RT’s 20-year anniversary of free speech in Moscow and contrasting that with U.S. media practices.
Glenn asks about how the narrative has flipped over time, referencing early Davos moments with Trump and the Chinese delegation, and later Russia’s perspective in Moscow. They discuss accountability gaps in Europe and the U.S.—the lack of accountability for events like the Biden laptop story, the Afghan bounties, the Nord Stream controversy, and the claimed Ukrainian drone deals—arguing that the press often avoids tough questions and veers toward pro-Russian framing by labeling inconvenient facts as Kremlin talking points. Rick argues that the censorship culture makes it seem like presenting the Russian perspective legitimizes it, yet he insists that understanding opposing viewpoints is essential to address the conflict.
Rick claims that after Joe Biden’s administration made it illegal for him to practice journalism in the U.S. (tied to Russian connections with penalties for noncompliance), he found greater editorial freedom in Russia. He asserts that in the U.S., Putin or Xi speeches are rarely covered in full, whereas in Russia, officials publicly present their evidence—such as Boris Johnson allegedly paying bribes to Zelensky’s government to prevent a peace deal in April 2022—and provide data, timelines, and formal declarations, like a stated MI6 operation against Russia’s pipelines and a separate incident involving the destruction of a Russian aircraft fleet.
They discuss the Ukraine conflict as a proxy battle primarily between the United States and Russia, with Trump positioned as a potential mediator who could push for rapprochement with Russia, potentially lifting sanctions to move toward peace. Rick explains his view that Europe’s insistence on continued confrontation with Russia is a sticking point and that the war’s end would require a shift toward diplomacy and a reduction of war propaganda at home. He cites a Guardian article detailing financial incentives to prolong the war and emphasizes that Russia’s strategy—advancing while minimizing civilian casualties and flanking cities—deserves more attention in Western reporting.
They touch on Trump’s stance, suggesting that his administration might seek to end the war by reestablishing relations with Russia, and stress that some discussions could extend beyond Ukraine, potentially involving Odessa and broader regional settlements. They note Merkel’s recent critical commentary about Poland and Baltic states and acknowledge shifts in Western media narratives as war dynamics evolve. The conversation closes with hopes for reduced propaganda, renewed diplomacy, and the possibility that Hungary could host a productive meeting between leaders to move toward peace.
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Speaker 0: Welcome back to the program. We are joined today by Rick Sanchez, the host from the Sanchez effect on RT. So welcome to the program. You, have a unique and very rare insider view of the media in both the West as well as Russia as you have worked for networks such as CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, and now, of course, you are with RT. This seems like a very interesting and unique experience these days given that much of the conflict between the West and Russia now seem to fall within the realm of almost a battle for narratives.
And Mhmm. In this, you it's quite unfortunate because without any mutual understanding, we do have some profound problem. But you have a nice insight into, I guess, both camps. So I wanted to, yeah, pick your brain a bit on on these issues. I thought perhaps a good place to start would be how do you interpret or assess the different ways the Western media and the Russian media frame the the Ukraine war?
Speaker 1: Well, I think first we have to start with what is The US media, and now what is the media that has developed here in what used to be the closed system of the Soviet Union, which has now become a much more expressive opportunity for people in this country to say what they think and as well as for members of the media, which is really surprising for a guy like me. I grew up in a communist country. I was born in Cuba and I've always talked to fear the Soviets and their communist system with their apparatchiks and if you even hinted at something that would upset somebody in the KGB, you would end up, you know, in Siberia or something like that and that's the way a lot of people in The United States still think. Unfortunately, I, as you just mentioned, had the advantage of having worked in the media in The United States. And I worked at CNN and Fox and NBC, and I can tell you what it's like to work there.
And I'll just give you a snippet of an example so you could better understand how the world has actually lived. It's completely different. So I was the guy who had a big show on CNN, it was quite popular. I always tried to buck the system, but it's hard to buck the system. And I'll explain to you why.
So they have somebody in Washington, for example, who is their Pentagon correspondent. Then they have another person who's their State Department correspondent. And at any time in the day when the Pentagon or the State Department decides that it wants to interrupt the news because they have something they want to say to the American people. They literally like ring a bell and the State Department correspondent that stands in front of the camera, they feed him or her a line and they will say, we have just uncovered that there's new documents proving that such and such as a bad person, Vladimir Putin, Xi, Modi, makeup, whoever it is you want. And then they'll come on a half hour later and say something else, usually glowing about one of our allies, for example.
So it becomes this predictable pattern where I start seeing these people who are good people. They're my correspondents on my show and I'd got to know them. Oftentimes I've talked to them before and after the show. But their job, their job in The United States, right? You're watching CNN or you're watching the BBC or you're watching Fox News.
They hire people whose job it is to dictate the palabre that is coming out of the State Department or the Pentagon without questioning it. And then my problem was I would question it, Glenn. I often would say to the correspondent, but wait, that doesn't add up. And suddenly I'd hear my producers say, we're getting a wrap. We gotta go.
And and the more I did this, when we you know, I was there when we were getting ready to go to war in Iraq, we were in Afghanistan, and a lot of things were happening, and I was going, this this doesn't make sense. And I and I felt like I wasn't allowed to control the narratives of my show, which is the supreme thing that a journalist has to be able to do. People talk in journalism all the time about what is, you know, what, you know, what is biased news or there's nothing saying is non biased news because we all bring our biases with us, including me, by the way. But what you can do is you can be fair, right? You can try to be fair to the to the story and to the people that you're talking about.
And and and I tried oftentimes to do that and I ended up on, you know, on my arse as they like to say, got fired every time I push back on this narrative. So that's essentially the way it works. They hire people to basically manifest the dictate that's coming out of these places. And what does that remind you of? And what does it remind you of when people who speak against that, like myself, end up getting fired, for example?
Vladimir Putin last night, because we happen to have been celebrating and here in Moscow, twenty years of free speech as a broadcast entity that we all know is RT, which is airing my shows now, as you mentioned. And the interesting thing that Mr. Putin came out and you know he being the president of the country came out and said a few nice words. And he he he hearkened back to his time as the PGB agent, which he did when you and I were with him meeting in Sochi, by the way, which I found quite interesting. And he said The US media has become in many ways what we used to do back during the Soviet era.
And then he said they block, they stop, they interfere. He says when I used to work, when we used to do in the in he didn't say KGB, he said, you know, Intel or whatever, but we all knew what he was talking about. He said, at least back then we tried to work with people and delicately tried to maybe convert them or get them to maybe see a different point of view. In this case, it's very, very different. And here's the leader of what you and I grew up with is the Soviet Union talking about the importance of truth and free speech.
At one point, by the way, and this has to do with the Tomahawk incident that you and I know is going on in the world right now. He also said. Russia has the best intercontinental weapon in the world today, and it's called truth. I was like, well, if nothing else, you have to give him credit or whoever wrote that for him because that's a hell of a good line, and especially a timely one as well.
Speaker 0: Yeah. This it is a strange to see how things have flipped. I remember also back in 2017 in in Davos, you had the was it Trump then who was making the argument that, you know, we need more protection, and then you had the Chinese delegation arguing for the virtues of free trade. And I was thinking it's the worst communist party there is. And then next, you go now, of course, yeah, in Moscow, a capital of former Soviet Union arguing for for the need for free speech.
Now, obviously, you can say that there's problems in in Russia as well, but but it does touch upon an interesting point that is what has been falling apart in in the West. And especially I see from Europe, the accountability is quite strange. I mean, you were there in The United States during the Russia gate era. We had these headlines for years and years, which are fake. There's been no accountability.
There was no accountability for the for the Biden laptop. There was no accountability for the, you know, so called bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan. We saw now this Wonderlane flight, which was scrambled or by Russians was fake. There's no accountability. And and I guess for me, one of the big things was Nord Stream because we were up in arms.
We're gonna escalate in Ukraine. We're we're talking about possible Article five in NATO. This was essentially an attack by Russia. It's like Pearl Harbor. We were, you know, up in arms.
And then once we found out, oh, it wasn't the Russians after all. This wasn't the Russian playbook as we were told to blow up your own pipelines. It disappeared. Nobody wants to talk about it. And whenever you have some notes coming out from some EU diplomats, it's well, don't ask questions if you don't wanna know the answers.
So this is the the logic, and the the journalists, they all seem to fall in line, which is quite extraordinary. I was wondering how how do you assess what is happening in across Europe? Because at least during the Cold War, we could we could we had the confidence to know the arguments of the Russians. These days, I mean, even if I present cold hard facts, which can't be denied, I would get feedbacks like, well, that's what Putin wants you to think, or or this is Kremlin talking point. So just we make it go away by calling it pro Russian, whatever that might mean.
They don't wanna unpack this concept, but call it pro Russian and has to go away. It has to be censored. Mean, I it's quite how how do you how do you end up here is, I guess, what I'm asking.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'm an American journalist, and I I I decided after Joe Biden and his administration made it illegal for me to practice journalism in The United States. That's literally what they did. They passed the law saying no one who has any kind of ties to Russia is allowed to practice journalism in The United States with under penalty of imprisonment and fines. Yes, by the way, in case you're wondering and you're listening to us at home, The United States Of America decided to make journalism illegal for some people under the Biden administration. And that's when, and I enjoyed doing my show and I have come, I've always had complete dominion of my narrative in my show.
You know, Glenn will tell you because he's probably familiar with it as will any of the guests who've been on my show. I have no questions written down. Nothing is sent to me. I write my own script. I say what I want to say.
I prepare what I want to say. And this is something that I wasn't able to do in The United States, but I'm able to do it, you know, here. And I think that's, you know, that, that's an important part of this story and what, what, and it's allowed me to do things that I never thought I would be able to do because see in The United States, we don't cover the other side. We don't cover like, for example, mister Putin or mister Xi or mister Modi will hold a news conference and say some interesting things or maybe not so much interesting things, but at least it's covered. And if he does say something interesting, if you are a respectable news operation, you share it with your people.
Today, the president of Russia said, blah, blah, blah. Nothing. Zero in The United States. Mr. Putin could give the most profound, perfect speech in the world, or for that matter, the worst, most dangerous speech in the world, they won't cover it.
They don't even tell you what's happening. Every once in a while, they'll take a little snippet if they think they can make a twenty four hour news cycle story out of it where, you know, they can get it to go viral or something because, you know, he scratched his nose and gave the sign of the devil or something. So it's just it's it's it's ludicrous. And then while I've been here and I've had the opportunity to sit down with the Minister of Finance and the Foreign Affairs ministers and other people who I now have access to, just as I did when I went to cover the Shanghai Cooperative Summit, for example, with Mr. Modi and Mr.
Xi. You know, I feel like I'm in a unique position as an American journalist, a Western journalist, to avail myself of at least the opportunity to see who are these people? What are they saying? What do they say? Why are they saying it?
How are they saying it? I find that the Russians, for example, to be very judicious and almost over efficient, boring almost to the point where they'll give the yes. Just yesterday, the head of the Russian security came out and said, now have evidence that MI six MI six was planning to blow up Turk Stream, another pipeline, you know, that belongs to Russia. And we have the goods. And we also now have evidence that they were involved in that spider web operation that blew up many of the Russia's fleet of planes, some of which were actually even used in for future nuclear operations.
And he came out and gave this declaration and he could not have been more boring. He just went like this, Glenn, and he read, We have found out that on such and such a date, such and such a person went to this place. They did this. They did that. No adjectives, no adverbs, you know, no chest thumping, just in a boring way.
He just sat there and read all the information about what they had uncovered that MI6 had done inside of Russia, which is fascinating when you consider that I have sources and I'm sure. So do you who have told me that MI6 was also responsible for the Crimea Bridge, for for for the train derailment that happens six and a half months ago for some of the operations against Russian generals inside of Moscow when they were home with their families. This is very serious stuff. The kind of thing that a country with less restraint would literally attack the other country for. And in fact, most Western countries have and would do something like that.
And they would call it a terrorism operation. Well, this was just announced forty eight hours ago. Where is it? Where's the New York Times with a headline that say the Brits attacked inside of Russia and blew up its nuclear fleet? Under any other circumstances, it would be amazing story.
But yet, where is that story in The Guardian and the BBC and in all of these places? It doesn't exist. And once again, it goes back to the point we started the conversation with. I know we veered off of Ukraine a little bit, and we can get to that. But the essence of what makes truth is the ability to understand and hear things that you would not normally be able to hear just as a common person who's got a job nine to five.
Right? You get home, you turn on the news or you read your newspaper and you want to depend that those people are telling you what's important to you, not just picking the stuff that they think they want to give you based on how they want to come across well, or they want their friends to come across well. No, just tell the damn truth and let it lie where, you know, let things lie where they where they may. That's the problem. And I have found yes, back to my point that I was trying to make.
I have found that because I'm in a unique position, I see that sure there's stuff here that happens too, but that you know you're you're going to get biased biases from government officials and you're going to have stuff that you're going to have to question and you're going to have to stop that you're to have to go. Wait a minute, and it doesn't make sense. But at least you're allowed to do that and you're allowed to present information. I talk about the US government and I talk about the British government and I talk about the German and French governments here. But in The United States, they don't talk about the Indian government or the Xi government or the Putin government.
They just don't even talk about it at all. Do you wanna see anything about Vladimir Putin? You have to see him on comedy shows where they make fun of him.
Speaker 0: Yeah. The well, this is quite explosive news, though, when it comes out of the head of Russian security or the FSB that they now, yeah, have evidence that it's the British who's behind all these different terrorist attacks across Russia. But also, as you said, the most important one that the British were directly behind the attack on Russia's nuclear deterrent. I mean, if you attack the nuclear deterrent of the world's largest nuclear power, you're now gambling with the future of the whole world, and and it's not news. I mean, we don't have to accept whatever the Russian authorities say as evidence, but let let let's let's address the argument.
This is what they accused. Where's the evidence? Do we agree with it? What is the what is the counter response from the British authorities? But, again, pretending as if this was never said, I mean, it's it's quite shocking.
It often feels that a lot of the censorship and as well as the cancellations go back to the idea that if you present the Russian perspective, then you're legitimizing or taking their side. But it's so well, first of all, you need to know what the opposing side is arguing if you want to mitigate the conflicts, but also on a wider frame. I mean, if we take a step back and move away from all this war propaganda that, you know, the Russians want to restore the Soviet Union, they might march on Paris, so all all this nonsense. If if abandon just take a step back, what is it it's not about taking one side or the other. It's the whole idea that this whole war, this conflict, it's it seems quite unnecessary.
I mean, it was very difficult to live next to the Soviet Union because of the ideological differences. But with Russia, how different are they today? I mean, if if if if if they aren't if Putin isn't Hitler trying to invade all of Europe, how difficult would it be to harmonize our strategic interests and visions for how Europe should be organized? I mean, we we could the idea that we're now prepared to go attack a nuclear deterrent instead of looking at diplomacy or how to harmonize their interests. It shows how far the, yeah, the propaganda has gone and how much fear there is that we might be risk seeing taking the side of the Russians.
It's it's
Speaker 1: And it goes against the facts. I mean, I'm sorry, but if you go back from 1991 to the present, the Russians think what you may have about done, hate them for their whatever they did during the Soviet era. Don't let Putin be whatever. The Russians have not done anything since 1990s that has been threatening to the West. In fact, anybody from Professor Jeffrey Sachs to John Mearsheimer to any real student of this Russo American and Anglo relationship will show you, will document.
You can even look at it yourself with any little basic Google search have bent over backwards to cajole the West. They have bent over backwards. We want to be like you. We want to follow you. We want to join you.
We want to be a part of NATO. Please let us in. What does it take? How much does it cost? Where do we buy a ticket?
Done everything possible to try and cajole the West and the West has consistently kicked them in the teeth every single time. And I can't until finally it got to Ukraine and that's where the red line was drawn. You know, president Putin finally said, that's it. I mean, come on. How stupid do you think we are?
We keep coming to you guys, offering our hand and you keep spitting on it. And we're tired of you spitting on our hand, and we're just not gonna take this anymore. And this is, this is really that provocation is what started this whole thing. And it has so little to do with Ukraine in so many ways and so much more to do with the West. This is why this, this meeting in Hungary between Mr.
Trump and Mr. Putin is so important because Mr. Trump, trust and my sources are telling me the Americans are almost there. I have to realize what I just said and the profundity of it. This is not about Russia versus Ukraine.
This is about Russia versus The United States Of America, because that's where the that's what we're really talking about when we look at these two sides who are actually in conflict or at war, you know, beyond even the Tomahawk conversation, which is obviously crazy because I think the Russian perspective is look, no, you give them Tomahawks. That's fine. It's not going to change the course of the war, but it will change the course of relations between The United States and Russia. That might be a red line for us. That tells us what you think of us.
Because if you allow Tomahawks with a range of 1,000 to 1,500 miles to be used out of Ukraine, that means you're willing to hit Moscow. That means you're willing to hit Saint Petersburg and Kazan and other Sochi and other perhaps Russian cities because it falls within that range. And that is a bridge too far. But going back to my more important point is it really behooves mister Trump, and I think we're close. And I think this might happen.
And I and I and I think thank God that Hungary is a much better place for this conversation than Alaska, where US reporters who, as you and I kidded when we were last together, they the multipolarity is a Steven Spielberg movie that's coming out. They're so dumb and so rigid in the West. All they did in Alaska was question mister Putin's right to be on American soil. He's the president of Russia. Like, he's not the president of some tiny country somewhere.
But what I think that what I think mister Trump has to do is he has to, at some point, get to the place where he lets his advisers and the world understand my goal here is not Ukraine. Ukraine is a nice part of this, and this is gonna be part of what the part of the outflow on this conversation. What what why what I need to do as the president of The United States? What we need to do as a country is reestablish relationship with Russia. So either as of this day or within the next couple of months, I will start lifting the sanctions against Russia.
And by doing that, by establishing that relationship with Russia, that's what you're basically saying to the world that this is how I'm gonna end Ukraine. You can't go in there and see that we're going to end this war and we're mediators sitting in the background or sitting on the fence, looking at these two sides who are warring. No. You're warring. You're warring with them.
And until you as long as you continue to punish Russia and punish Russia and punish Russia, you are a part of the Ukraine battle against Russia. So you need to show some kind of sign that you're willing to go back on some of those things. And as soon as you establish a relationship, it doesn't have to be sex in bed every day, like you were having with Bibi Netanyahu and the Israelis, but at least some kind of relationship that shows we're willing to do rapprochement with Russia. And the moment that that that that signal is sent, I think it will begin to dissipate the situation in Ukraine, and that has to happen. And the Russians want that because the Russians are much more interested in rapprochement with with Washington than they are with meeting mister Zelensky demands for one mile of land here, one mile of land there, or whatever other ridiculous or preposterous positions he takes, which is always, by the way, ignoring anything Russians even have brought to the table on this.
I think that's the most important part of this. And the only reason I'm a little confident or not a little bit confident, but confident is because my sources tell me that this is what the Trump administration now wants to do. Post Gaza, this is what they're going to be hell bent on. This is gonna be their bone, and they're gonna be the dog. Right?
And and and Trump will be like a dog with a bone to get this done. And I think they understand that it's important to do the first part before you get to the to to to the latter. And I do think Hungary is a better venue than and I think Orban sets the table well for this discussion, and it's a really neutral friendly country. Alaska wasn't. Alaska was a unfriendly country.
I know it's not a country, but you get the point. It's it was an unfriendly place for these two people to meet.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I I'm very well firmly convinced that, as you suggest, we need to reduce or tame the war propaganda at home if it's gonna be possible to actually make peace. So speaking not that long ago with Jack Matlock, who was, of course, the ambassador to Reagan to The Soviet Union, and he was saying something similar that when him and Reagan wanted to negotiate and end to the Cold War, the one of the biggest obstacles was Washington because the hatred of the Soviets and include including Russians was so fierce that that any peace negotiation would be seen as appeasement almost. So, yeah, like the same language we have today. So he was making the point they first have to sell negotiation to the war hawks at home before they were able to sit down with mister Gorbachev and negotiate an end to this.
But but but this is so I I think the the narratives of war propaganda home is a huge obstacle to preventing nuclear exchange.
Speaker 1: And it's in the psyche of the president. And you know how I know it's in the psyche of the president, and you know as well, and everybody who watched his news conference with Putin and Alaska knows. Remember do you remember, Glenn, when when when Putin said to to Trump, maybe mister president, next time we'll do this in Moscow. And and and suddenly you saw this this almost President Trump's face almost kind of changed colors. And then he looked around almost scared like and mysterious.
He goes, well, don't know. I might get in trouble for that. I'm like, you're the president of The United States. You're just sending to the world that you might get in trouble. Like you're some school kid and your teacher might slap your hand for thinking bad thoughts or something.
You could see what you just talked about, right, was in his psyche. It was as an American and a guy who grew up in the cold war. I mean, he's long in the tooth, obviously. As soon as the president invited him to Moscow, he was that scared rather than saying, well, sure. You've come to my country.
Now maybe I will come to your country, and we'll see if we can figure this out. That's what a man says. That's what a leader says. That's what a friend says or somebody who at least is decent enough to be talking to an enemy who's offering him an olive branch. Instead, he freaked out.
He looked like he had just seen a ghost or something. And that's that that moment was so important. Thought I remember was one of those things as a journalist, I started writing down and then underlining, like, damn. That said volumes more than any speech could have said to me anyway.
Speaker 0: I want to ask you about, you know, one of the key narratives, which you already alluded to, which is the idea that we kinda have to if we wanna solve this war, we do have to recognize, as you said, that it's primarily between The United States and Russia fought, of course, in Ukraine as a proxy. But but we already had people like Marco Rubio, Boris Johnson, Leon Panera openly say, yeah. This is a proxy war. I know you know Marco Rubio, and then even Donald Trump has at times well, more than once referred to the war as being provoked having been provoked by NATO expansion. So we all we all know that this is a proxy war, yet the same people who have defined this as a proxy war only sees the solution as being a Russia Ukraine deal.
And this is where, on one hand, Trump said, well, this war was Biden's war, but also he's a mediator to end the Russia Ukraine war. But at some point, one has to however we should refer to it. He said, you know, I just want peace. Time to end this. Both Russia and Ukraine should claim victory.
And, again, he's the mediator, but no reference to, okay, we're we're prepared to take NATO expansion off the table, the key foundation for the whole war. So we established that this is a proxy war. How come we we ended up with this narrative embraced by the political media leads that the only solution can be Russia Ukraine deal because, you know, the putting an end to NATO expansion, that doesn't have to be put on the shoulders of Ukrainians. That would be very hard for mister Zelenskyy to accept given that he has some problems in his own government, but this is within The US control. I mean, a lot of the things we're discussing here is an issue which The US and Russia could agree between themselves.
How did we how did we end up with this full consensus that this that the the role of Trump is simply to make the Russians and Ukrainians come to an agreement? Because we already accepted. I mean, as I said, Marco Rubio, Boris Johnson, Leo Panetta, Trump, they all recognize this as a Trump war. No. Sorry.
This is a proxy war. Yeah. So so how how do you explain this?
Speaker 1: It's not just a proxy war. Here's the golden goose that was given to Trump. It's not a proxy war. It's an Obama Biden war. So this thing was put on a silver platter for mister Trump.
All he has to do is continue saying where he started this conversation a long time ago, which was, this is not my war. This would not have happened under my administration. I did not do this. And the people who did this were foolish and they allowed themselves to be pulled by the nose by some bad people who were simply trying to make money. They provoked Russia into this situation, thereby creating this war, and and I'm gonna undo this.
Right? So so you've you you you the opportunity to use what is a very sound argument to the American people from your bully pulpit. At at one point, he was there, And everybody thought, oh, I see where this is going. Gonna blame it on Biden, blame it on Obama, rightfully so. And he's gonna blow away, but then something happened.
And you're right. I mean, I know Marco and have covered him most of my life, and we grew up in Miami as two Cuban Americans. And Marco has always been staunchly on the side of neocons and still is on some things, like, obviously, with the case of his friend Miriam Adelson and Bibi Netanyahu. But when it comes to Russia, I watched Marco transition, and his language has very much changed. And he's challenging the Europeans and stating things like you just said that he would state.
So you you you would think if Marco were saying that and he speaks for the neocons and speaks for the people who make money off of wars, the military industrial types, weapons makers, etcetera, you would think then that this thing could really shift in that direction. But somewhere along the line, and I'm not sure when or how, the the those powers, the administrative state that exists inside of my country, The United States Of America, that we now only know too well, somehow was able to undo that narrative and get back on top of mister Trump's assignment in Ukraine. And I'm not sure how they did it, or I'm not sure how they got to him. I mean, you you you talk to MacGregor, and you talk to some of these people who are more insiders than I am, but they they they definitely were able to scare Trump into buying back in partially or wholly into that narrative that it's part of his mission as a US president to somehow defeat Russia and change Russia's government and remove Vladimir Putin for some reason. Not that he's ever expressed that the way Biden did.
Trump has never said those words, so I don't wanna put words in the man's mouth. I take him at his word that deep down he really wants to do this, but he's not doing it with the same kind of furor and the same kind of palabra and the same kind of language that he was using at the outset, which worries me. My sources tell me that now that Gaza is finished, Trump will go back into that mode. And that's one of the things that you and I and others who follow this will see what happens when they meet in Budapest. I'm hopeful that Mr.
Trump will regain that ground that he once established and then somehow lost as you just well articulated?
Speaker 0: Yeah. Because the language recently has been we need more missiles, more escalation in order to force Putin to the negotiation table, but I thought it was already at the negotiation table. Again, the meeting again in Budapest, and, you know, you don't have to, to, you know, threaten the Russians into negotiating. They said along that they never closed the door, that it's the Europeans who haven't wanted to pick up a phone and called Moscow now for the past three and a half years. So Mhmm.
It is the the language is perplexing to me. I mean, if if what they mean is we want Putin to accept deal come closer, what I I I I still miss from the media, though. What what exactly do they expect from Russia? Because do they expect them to move the red line that they will they they they demand the political settlement that is an end to NATO expansion. Yeah.
I just I I don't this all it feels like they're they're only communicating in these very empty narratives. And and, yeah, we we we don't really get any any information beyond the slogans that is we have to force rush the negotiation table. Well, why? Well, they they are there. Well, what exactly is it that we demand?
What are our red lines versus theirs? Where can we move? I don't see any real discussion around this. It's quite it's quite frustrating to
Speaker 1: Well, there are there are some there are some new developments that have recently happened that play to mister Putin's favor going into these negotiations. One of them is the $10,011,300,000.0 dollars that Boris Johnson got as reported by The Guardian in a very well written and very very well documented article to basically make sure that Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian government did not sign a peace deal with Russia in April 2022. That's huge. That basically is like the goods. It's like the Russians walk into the negotiations saying, we were willing to stop.
And a Western leader was flown into our country, paid a bribe to make sure the war continued so his client who paid him, according to the report, could make money by selling drones to the Ukrainians. That's an astounding report that should be hammered away. If I was negotiating, I would hammer away at that. I would also present this new information about what MI6 did. I would also then say quite plainly, right?
We're winning. We're winning. We are way beyond even our own expectations and we're doing it in such a way so that we're gaining ground as we go. We're willing to stop right here and now and draw the line where it is. But if we can't have something other than just the word ceasefire, which to us means nothing, It means the losing side gets a timeout in the fourth quarter when the winning side is up by 25 points.
Why am I gonna let you stop and get your players a rest, etcetera? We're bringing new players perhaps. No. We either come up with an agreement that gives us something or we continue. And if we continue, it's beyond Saporetia, and it's beyond the Donbas, and it's beyond Crimea.
We're now looking at maybe Odessa. So it it it's to your advantage to negotiate something that is important to us. And the thing we really want the most is not even about Ukraine. It's about us being accepted as a as as a as a nation, and as a member of the community of nations. We we would like for some of these castigatory measures that have been taken against us to be removed and to treat us with the respect that we think we're due.
And if you can do that, this thing could be over tomorrow. And that's the argument. I don't I mean, I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but looking at it from here, I think that's all that the that the Russians need to do. And I think they're in a good position to do it. And I think the Americans, my government, I think, is close to understanding that and maybe trying to make that happen, Glenn.
Speaker 0: I guess when if you wanna see how a conflict develops, it can often be good to see how the media narrative changes because, you know, for more than three years, you know, these narratives were always going that, you know, it's an unprovoked war. There are Ukrainians are winning. Russians are taking many more casualties. All the narratives, even how blatantly obvious faults they were, all had the same objective, just to keep public support for continuing the war. What you expect though is when everything starts to go south, that you have to see find some indicators in the media that now the narrative is shifting.
So when people like Angela Merkel goes out to the media and says, well, it's Poland and Baltic states really have to take some blame for this war. They're the one who blocked the diplomacy with the Russians in 2021. I mean, that's what the Russians said. That's what we denied. And now so you see some shifts in the in the in the in in in the narrative.
So that gives some hope that there are some political forces preparing to put an end to this horrible war, though.
Speaker 1: The only and the and the only reason I think they're backing away from that narrative, by the way, if you're referring to, you know, the BBC's and the CNN's of the world who are now being forced to present the truth because because it is the truth that the Russians are, in fact, moving into territories, not losing territories, and they're doing it very judiciously. You know? You notice what they do, they flank around most of the cities. Every city, including the area of Perkos, which they decided not to just take on head on, they're going around it, and in many ways, to protect the people of those cities. So, you know, in terms of avoiding civilian casualties, of all the wars that I've seen in recent memory, including Afghanistan and Iraq and certainly Gaza, if we wanna call that a war, This is the war this is the one war where the rate of civilian casualties vis a vis combatant casualties is completely upside down.
I mean, the latest that I checked is maybe somewhere between thirteen and fifteen thousand civilians that have died in this war, which is horrible. One is too many, obviously, but it's it's a relatively small number compared to what we believe happened in Iraq, which is over 500,000 according to some estimates. And what we know has just taken place in Gaza, for example. So you you could actually make the argument that the Russians are are are moving forward very, diligently, and and they're doing so, trying to minimize the deaths of of civilians. That's an interesting story and which can be documented by military analysts who actually look at the information on the ground, but for some reason, they decide not not to report that.
But they are finally at least reporting that the Russians are advancing and that the Ukrainian military is in really kind of bad in a bad position. But the only reason they're doing that is because anything else would be laughable. If they didn't report that, it would just be like they completely lose their credibility because now they're done. I remember Tucker told me when he and I were talking, and he and I were chatting yesterday about some things, but he told me that he was fired from Fox News when he started questioning the fact that Ukraine was, in fact, not winning the war and by inviting MacGregor on. And and he says to me, you know, because we were sharing about the fact that I was fired from corporate media, and he was fired from corporate media for essentially challenging some of their narratives.
And he said, it's funny because the last time that McGregor was on Fox News was when I had him on. And as soon as they fired me, he hasn't been invited back before again. So I'm not sure if they were actually firing Tucker or firing McGregor. That that that's kind of the way they control things coming back to the beginning.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Well, thank you so much for taking the time. It's yeah. And, also, it's, yeah, great to see you again. And, yeah, I hope this is the final stages of this war.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it, Glenn. It's always a pleasure talking to you, and I think you do a delightful job. Enjoy your podcast and your thoughts and your friendship. Thank you, my friend.
Thanks.
@redpilldispensr - Red Pill Dispenser
"If you don't understand this trick, you will be easy to manipulate." "It's been used by the government, by big corporations and by the media to control public thought and behavior." https://t.co/Tv9I7FXxDH
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Speaker 0 explains a common manipulation in presenting statistics, distinguishing absolute risk from relative risk. Absolute risk is defined as the real chance of something happening. Relative risk compares two small numbers to make one seem much larger, often used to fear-mmonger. The example given is a jar with 10,000 marbles, one red marble. The chance of picking the red marble is one in ten thousand—that is the absolute risk. If there is a second jar with two red marbles, the relative risk comparison would say you have a 100% more chance of getting a red marble in this jar than in the first jar. Even though the absolute probabilities are both very small, the relative risk makes the difference appear dramatic. Relative risk is described as a favorite tool of fearmongers because it makes a tiny number sound huge, whereas absolute risk shows the real-world odds.
The speaker then applies this distinction to headlines. They cite a headline claiming you are “eight hundred and forty times more likely to get sick from raw milk than from pasteurized milk.” This is a relative risk number and is technically true, but the absolute risk of getting sick from raw milk is about one in thirteen thousand for the people who drink it, which is less than one one-hundredth of one percent. The same framing tactic is said to have been used with COVID vaccines.
Regarding vaccines, the Pfizer vaccine is described as “ninety-five percent effective,” a number that was widely publicized. The speaker notes that this figure is the relative risk reduction. When examining the actual trial data, the absolute risk reduction—the real difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups—was about 0.8 percent, less than one percent. The speaker emphasizes that the shot “lowers your actual risk by less than one percent,” but this was not the framing chosen; instead, the larger, scarier-sounding percentage was presented. The argument is that people made significant life decisions based on that framing.
The overall message is that statistics can be technically true yet misleading, influencing public opinion in areas like food safety or medicine. The recommended approach when encountering scary or amazing numbers in headlines is to ask whether the figure refers to relative risk or absolute risk. The speaker concludes: relative risk sells headlines; absolute risk tells the truth.
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Speaker 0: If you don't understand this trick, you will be easy to manipulate. It's been used by the government, by big corporations, and by the media to control public thought and behavior. This is how people use numbers that are technically true to make things sound way scarier or way safer than they actually are. Here's the trick. Absolute risk is the real chance of something happening.
Think about a jar with 10,000 marbles in it and only one of them is red. Your chance of picking the red marble is one in ten thousand. That's the absolute risk. Now relative risk compares two tiny numbers to make one of them sound huge. So if there's another jar and it has two red marbles, they'll say, you have a 100% more chance of getting a red marble in this jar than you do in this jar.
Well, your chance went from one in ten thousand to two in ten thousand, both small numbers, but your chance has doubled. Relative risk is the favorite tool of fearmongers because it makes a tiny number sound huge. Absolute risk shows the real world odds. Now watch how this plays out. You've seen the headline, you're eight hundred and forty times more likely to get sick from raw milk than from pasteurized milk.
That's a relative risk number. It is technically true. But the absolute risk of getting sick from raw milk is about one in thirteen thousand for the people who drink it. That is less than one one hundredth of one percent. They pulled the same move with COVID vaccines.
Do you remember the headlines? The Pfizer vaccine is ninety five percent effective. That number was blasted everywhere. But here's the truth. That was the relative risk reduction.
When you dig into the actual trial data, the absolute risk reduction, the real difference between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated groups was about point eight percent, less than one percent. They could have said this shot lowers your actual risk by less than one percent, but they didn't. They went with the bigger, scarier sounding number, ninety five percent. And people made life changing decisions based on that framing. It wasn't technically a lie, but it was incredibly misleading.
And that should make you angry because it shows how much public opinion can be manipulated by the way statistics are presented. So whether it's food safety or medicine, statistics can be technically true but still used to trick you. Next time you hear a scary or amazing number in a headline, ask, are they talking about relative risk or absolute risk? Relative risk, it sells headlines. Absolute risk tells the truth.
@IntuitMachine - Carlos E. Perez
This is a very important time in history to know the methods of how *you* are being manipulated. https://t.co/xwIcA6RkkR
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Speaker 0: Cognitive control runs deeper than simply changing what you think; it shapes the very process of how you think. Are your thoughts really your own? We’ll break down techniques that sneak past your critical thinking to lead you to a conclusion, often without you realizing it. We’ll start with weaponized language, then show how reality itself can be distorted and simplified, and finish with methods that control someone’s entire environment.
We begin with weaponizing words. Words are the building blocks of thought, and these techniques create emotional shortcuts before logical analysis can wake up. Loaded language uses words packed with emotional baggage to evoke reaction without evidence. Example contrasts: neutral terms versus loaded ones (public servant vs. bureaucrat; estate tax vs. death tax). Paltering is lying by telling the truth—carefully choosing only true statements to create a misleading picture (e.g., “I did not have textual relations with that chatbot” to imply nothing happened). Obfuscation uses jargon to bury a simple truth under complexity. Rationalization uses emotion-then-logic to defend a decision as if it were purely rational.
Section two moves to distorting and simplifying reality. Oversimplification reduces real, messy problems to slogans or black-and-white choices. Out-of-context quotes can make it appear the opposite of what was meant. Limited hangout admits to a small part of a story to appear transparent while hiding the rest. Passe unique (single thought) aims to render opposing viewpoints immoral or unthinkable, narrowing acceptable debate until only one thought remains.
The final section covers controlling the environment. Love bombing lavishes praise to secure acceptance, then isolates the person from prior life to foster dependence. Operant conditioning—rewards and punishments on social platforms—shapes behavior; milieux control creates an information bubble that blocks opposing views, discourages critical thinking, and uses its own language to isolate a population.
The core takeaway: recognizing these techniques is the first and best defense; awareness reduces their power. The toolkit promises to help you spot propaganda in ads, politics, online groups, and everyday arguments.
Speaker 1: Division is a deliberate strategy, not a bug in the system. Chapter one of the playbook focuses on twisting reality to control beliefs. Disinformation is the intentional spread of lies to spark outrage and distrust before facts can be checked, aiming to make you doubt truth itself. FUD—fear, uncertainty, doubt—paralyzes you; the fire hose of falsehood overwhelms with a high volume of junk information across platforms, with no commitment to truth. Euphemism softens harsh realities (civilian deaths becomes collateral damage). The playbook hijacks emotions, demonizes opponents, and sometimes creates manufactured bliss to obscure problems. The long game demoralizes a population to render voting and institutions meaningless, and the endgame is to lock down power by breaking unity among people—pitting departments against each other, issuing nonnegotiable diktats, and launching coordinated harassment campaigns (FLAC) to deter dissent.
The objective is poisoning reality to provoke confusion, manipulate emotions, and induce powerlessness. The antidote is naming and recognizing tactics (disinformation, FUD, demonization, etc.) to regain control of the conversation and build more honest, constructive discourse. The information battlefield uses framing, the half-truth, gaslighting, foot-in-the-door tactics, guilt by association, labeling, and latitudes of acceptance to rig debates before they start. The Gish gallop overwhelms with rapid claims; data overload creates a wall of complexity; glittering generalities rely on vague, emotionally charged terms to persuade without substance.
Chapter two and beyond emphasize that recognizing the rules of the game lets you slow down, name the tactic, and guide conversations back to facts. The playbook’s architecture: control reality, trigger emotions, build the crowd, and anoint a hero to lead. Understanding these plays is not to promote cynicism, but to enable clearer thinking and more honest dialogue.
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Speaker 0: Today, we're diving into something called cognitive control. And look, this isn't just about trying to change what you think. It's actually way deeper than that. We're talking about shaping the very process of how you think. So let me ask you this, are your thoughts really your own?
It's a pretty big question. Right? And it's exactly what we're going to dig into. We're gonna break down the specific nitty gritty techniques people use to kinda sneak past your critical thinking and lead you to a certain conclusion. And the crazy part?
A lot of the time, you don't even know what's happening. Alright. So here's how we're gonna tackle this. First up, we'll look at how simple words and language get weaponized. Then, we'll get into how reality itself gets distorted and oversimplified.
And to wrap it all up, we'll explore the most extreme methods. We're talking about controlling someone's entire environment. Okay. Let's jump right into part one, weaponizing words and language. I mean, think about it.
Words are the basic building blocks of how we think, and the techniques we're about to see, they're all designed to create this little emotional shortcut, right? To get a specific reaction out of you before your logical brain even has a chance to wake up. So first up, we've got something called loaded language. This is all about picking words that are already packed with, you know, a ton of emotional baggage. It's like injecting a feeling directly into a sentence so you don't even need a real argument or any evidence to make your point.
And this slide is a perfect example. Just look at this. On the left, you have neutral terms. On the right, loaded ones. Public servant sounds pretty noble, right?
But bureaucrat? That sounds like someone who loves red tape. Or how about estate tax versus death tax? One's a boring financial term, the other makes it sound like you're being punished for dying. It's the exact same thing but the feeling you get is completely different.
Alright. Next up is a really subtle one. It's called paltering, and get this, it's basically the art of lying by only telling the truth. I know, it sounds weird, but you're not actually saying anything that's false. You're just very, very carefully choosing which true things to say to create a totally misleading picture.
And this hypothetical quote just nails it. I did not have textual relations with that chatbot. Technically, that's true. They didn't text. But it's designed to make you think nothing happened at all when really they might have had, I don't know, vocal relations.
See, it's denial that's not really a denial at all. Super sneaky. Okay. So let's talk about obfuscation. Now if paltering is like a precise surgical strike with the truth, obfuscation is just a giant smoke bomb of complexity.
The whole point is to bury a simple and usually inconvenient truth under this huge mountain of jargon and confusing language so that nobody can figure out what's really going on. And to round out this first section, let's talk about rationalization, and honestly, this is something we probably all do. It's when you make a decision based on emotion or a gut feeling, and then you go back and build this perfect logical sounding argument for it. When it's weaponized, it lets people feel really smart and logical about a choice they actually made for reasons they'd rather not admit to. Alright.
That brings us to our second section, distorting and simplifying reality. Here, we're moving beyond just the words people use and into techniques that actively twist the frame of reality itself. These are tools designed to construct a very particular and often very false way of seeing the world. And we're kicking it off with oversimplification. You know, real world problems are complicated.
They're messy. They take real thought. Well, this technique just throws all that out the window. It boils everything down to a catchy slogan or a simple good versus evil black and white choice. And yeah, it feels simple and decisive but what it's really doing is killing any chance for a nuanced conversation.
Okay. Here's a classic. I guarantee you have seen this a million times, taking quotes out of context. It's an incredibly powerful way to make it look like someone said the exact opposite of what they meant just by, you know, chopping off the beginning or the end of their sentence. And this slide shows you exactly how it works.
Look at the full quote. While our opponent has some valid points, their overall plan is a disaster. Pretty clear, right? It's a condemnation. But you just snip out that middle part, and suddenly you have an ad that says, our opponent has some valid points.
It makes it sound like a full on endorsement. It's completely dishonest, but man, is it effective. Next, we have something called the limited hangout. This term actually comes from the world of spies and intelligence. Here's the scenario.
A big scandal is about to break. So what do you do? You strategically confess to a small, not so bad part of the story. It makes you look transparent, like you're coming clean. And hopefully, it gets everyone to stop digging for the much, much bigger truth you're still hiding.
And this chart just lays it out perfectly, doesn't it? You admit to this little 10% slice of the pie, you hang it out there for everyone to see and that makes people think they've got the whole story while the other 90% stays completely hidden. Okay. This next one, passe unique, which is French for single thought, is really important to understand. The goal here isn't just to argue that an opposing view is wrong.
No. No. The goal is to make that other viewpoint seem immoral, totally socially unacceptable. Basically, to make it unthinkable. It's about shrinking the whole world of acceptable debate until there's only one thought left standing.
Alright. Let's get into our final section, and this is where things get really intense. We're talking about controlling the total environment. These tactics aren't just about swaying you on one issue or getting you to make one decision. This is about managing someone's entire reality.
And a classic example of this is a tactic often used by cults called love bombing, and it's a very clear step by step process. First, you just shower a new person with praise and affection. Make them feel like the most special person in the world. Step two, you start to slowly cut them off in their old life, their friends, their family. And finally, step three, they become totally dependent on the group for their entire sense of who they are.
Now this next one, operant conditioning, might sound like something you'd read about in a dusty old psychology textbook, but trust me, it is being used on a massive scale every single day. It's just a fancy term for a system of rewards and punishments designed to train people to behave in a certain way. And just look at this table. It shows you exactly how social media platforms have pretty much perfected this. You post something the group approves of, boom, you get a reward, likes, shares, positive comments.
But what happens if you say something that goes against the grain? Punishment, down votes, public shaming, and over time what does that do? It trains all of us to just self censor and conform. This brings us to milieu control. This is the big one.
It's about creating a completely sealed off information bubble. You manage a person's environment so tightly that they never come across an opposing viewpoint or a challenging idea. It's simple really. If you can control everything a person sees and hears, you ultimately control what they sync. And this slide basically gives you the playbook for how to build that bubble.
Your strict access to any outside news. You isolate people from anyone who doesn't believe. You create your own special language. You discourage critical thinking at every turn. It is a systematic process of taking apart someone's ability to think for themselves.
So, okay. After going through all of that, from sneaky loaded words all the way to total environmental control, it can feel pretty heavy. Right? But here's the most important takeaway of all. The simple act of knowing these techniques exist, of being able to spot them, that is your single most powerful weapon against them.
Just being aware is your first and best line of defense. And really, that's the thought I want to leave you with. None of this is just theory or history. These techniques are out there right now all around us. You'll see them in ads.
You'll see them in politics. You'll see them in online groups. Alright. Today, we're gonna build a toolkit. This is your personal spotter's guide for one of the most powerful forces out there, propaganda.
We're gonna learn how to see it, how to name it, and most importantly, how to neutralize its effect on us. Let's jump in. You've been there, right? We all have. You're in a debate online, maybe in the comments section, and all of a sudden, the ground just shifts under your feet.
You're left feeling confused, maybe a little angry, and you're not even sure how the conversation got so completely derailed. It feels like you're playing a game but nobody ever told you the rules. Well, that feeling, it's not an accident. It's often the result of very specific time tested techniques that are designed to control the narrative and get you off balance. So yeah, welcome to the information battlefield.
Today, we're gonna learn the strategy. First, let's look at the offensive playbook. These are the proactive tools, the ones used to build a story from the ground up and make it feel solid, inevitable, and, well, true. These are the tools of attack. It all starts with one of the most basic yet incredibly powerful tools in the box, repetition.
See, our brains have this funny little shortcut. We tend to mistake something that's familiar for something that's accurate. So when we hear the same message enough times, our brain just kinda starts to accept it as true even if there's no evidence. Psychologists have a name for this, the illusory truth effect. And this is that principle in action.
It's the engine that drives slogans, talking points, and yeah, unfortunately, some really big falsehoods. The message is just hammered home again and again and again until it carves out a little space in our minds and starts to feel like just common knowledge. Next up is scapegoating. You've definitely seen this one. When things get complicated or tough, it is so much easier to create a simple villain than it is to actually solve the real problem.
This technique takes all that public anger and frustration and just funnels it onto an easy target. It's a perfect distraction from the real issues. And then you've got transfer. This is all about the power of association. You know, think of a politician who's always standing in front of a giant national flag.
The goal is to transfer your positive feelings about the flag, patriotism, respect, onto the person. It's a visual shortcut that completely bypasses your logical brain and goes straight for the emotions. Now this is interesting. This slide breaks down two different ways to kind of borrow credibility. On the one hand you've got testimonials.
That's pretty straightforward, right? A famous person you admire says they like something. But on the other hand you have the much more subtle third party technique. This is where someone creates what looks like an independent source like a research group or a concerned citizens organization to push their message. One relies on fame, the other creates a totally false sense of objectivity.
Okay, so you've built your narrative but what happens when people start poking holes in it? What happens when it comes under attack? Well that's when you switch from offense to defense and you pull out a whole new set of tools designed to protect your position at all costs. The first line of defense is often what aboutism? And let's be clear, this isn't a real argument, it's an escape hatch.
Instead of actually addressing a criticism, the speaker just tries to change the subject by pointing a finger and saying, yeah, but what about them? The goal is just to create chaos and totally derail the conversation. And here's a perfect classic example. Notice how the response doesn't even try to deny the original charge. It doesn't offer any counterargument or evidence, it just pivots.
It forces the person who made the accusation to suddenly start defending a completely different topic. The original point? It's just gone. The debate is neutralized. Another really powerful defensive tool is the misuse of statistics.
We're all taught to trust numbers, right? They feel so objective, so scientific, but data can be twisted and presented in a way to tell pretty much any story you want, giving a totally false conclusion the shiny authoritative veneer of math. Oh, this is a fantastic illustration of how that works. Just look at these two charts. They are showing the exact same data, but in the first chart where the scale goes from zero to 100, the differences look tiny, almost non existent.
But in the second chart, just by changing the scale to zoom in on the very top, those same tiny differences suddenly look like a massive dramatic gap. The data didn't change one bit, only the story it was forced to tell. Okay. This one is incredibly sneaky. The unstated assumption works by smuggling a controversial idea into conversation without ever actually saying it out loud.
The entire argument is built on this hidden foundation that you're forced to accept just to even participate in the discussion, and this question is the perfect example. It's a classic for a reason. I mean, how do you even answer that? If you give a date you're admitting you used to cheat, if you try to deny it you just sound defensive. The question itself is a trap, and all of its power comes from that unstated, totally unproven assumption that you were a tax cheat to begin with.
And finally, we have semantic satiation. This is basically a tactic of neutralization. You take a powerful word that your opponent uses, a word like justice or freedom or reform, and you just repeat it over and over and over again. You apply it to everything until it just becomes meaningless noise. You drain the word of all its power by turning it into an empty buzzword.
So here's the most important point. These tools are almost never used by themselves. They're layered. They're combined into these really sophisticated strategies. Let's take a look at how they might all come together in something like a coordinated smear campaign.
And this slide just lays out the playbook perfectly. Look at how the offensive and the defensive tools work in tandem. It starts with scapegoating, you pick a target, then comes the attack using repetition to hammer home a big lie. To make it all look legit, they'll use misused statistics as proof, and then finally, if anyone dares to challenge it, they throw up defensive shields of whataboutism to deflect the criticism and attack the critic. It's a powerful self reinforcing cycle of disinformation.
Seeing all of this laid out like that, yeah, it can feel a little disheartening. But listen, the goal here isn't to make you cynical or paranoid, it's to make you resilient. The goal is empowerment. Just being able to identify and name these techniques, that's the first and most crucial step to taking away their power over you. The moment you can look at an argument and say, ah, that's what aboutism, or, wait, they're using the transfer technique there, you break the spell.
It lets you take a step back, evaluate the message on its own merits, and just think more clearly. So we'll leave you with this thought. Knowing these techniques, it gives you a defensive shield against manipulation for sure, but it also gives you a much deeper understanding of how communication actually works. So the real question is, once you can see the architecture of these arguments, how can you use that knowledge to build more honest, more constructive, and clearer conversations?
Speaker 1: You ever get that feeling that there's some kind of hidden script out there? One that's designed to turn us against each other? Well, we're not just pulling back the curtain on this division playbook. We're going to show you exactly how it works page by page. I mean, really think about it.
It's a feeling a lot of us have. Right? The disagreements you have, maybe with neighbors or people at work, even your own family. They just feel bigger somehow, amplified, almost engineered, like some invisible force is shoving us all into opposite corners making it almost impossible to find any common ground. And here's the thing you have to understand, that feeling isn't just in your head.
Division isn't some bug in the system. It's a feature. It's a calculated, deliberate strategy used by people who actually benefit when we're all confused and angry. Today, we're exposing those tactics. Alright.
So let's get into it. Chapter one of the playbook is all about twisting your perception of reality. Because think about it. If you can control what people believe is real, you can pretty much control them. This is all about poisoning the well of information itself.
It all starts with the most basic tool in the shed, disinformation. Now we're not talking about a simple mistake or a rumor that gets out of hand, no. This is the intentional creation and spread of lies, like a fake social media post about some new community policy that's totally made up designed for one reason, to spark outrage and distrust before anyone even has a chance to check the facts. See, the real goal isn't just to make you believe a lie, it's to make you doubt what's actually true. And that doubt, it leads right into the next play, FUD, fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
The whole point here isn't to convince you of their side of the story, it's to paralyze you. It's done by spreading whispers that, you know, a new technology might have weird side effects or that a political candidate has a questionable past, all without a shred of proof. It just floods your brain with what ifs, making it pretty much impossible to trust anything or anyone. Now take that FUD tactic and just supercharge it for the Internet age. What you get is something called the fire hose of falsehood.
This is a tactic of pure overwhelm. It's not about crafting one really believable lie. It's about blasting out so many contradictions and crazy things that your brain's critical thinking just short targets. And this just nails how it works. You've got a massive, high volume of junk information.
It's a multi platform, so it's hitting you from every angle, social media, fake news sites, everywhere. It's rapid, it never stops. And here's the key. There is zero commitment to truth or consistency. The goal is just to exhaust you, not persuade you.
It wears you down until you just give up trying to figure out what's real. The final move in poisoning reality is to just change the words we use. It's called euphemism. I mean, look at this. Civilian deaths sounds awful.
Right? But the sterile corporate sounding collateral damage, not so bad. Silencing dissent becomes aggressive criticism. It's all about putting a soft, fuzzy glove on a really ugly reality. Okay.
So once reality is all blurred and confusing, the playbook moves on to hijacking your feelings. You can argue with logic, but raw emotion, that is a much, much more powerful driver of human behavior. This next chapter is all about how they twist your heart, not just the facts. This one. This is probably the most dangerous play in this whole chapter.
It's the huge difference between saying, I disagree with their economic plan and calling them evil monsters who want to destroy our way of life. The moment you demonize an opponent, you're not just arguing anymore. You're creating a moral justification for doing anything to stop them. What's so fascinating here is how this tactic contrasts with the last one. See, manipulation isn't just about fear and hate.
It can also be about creating these artificial highs. Think about a leader who's facing, say, terrible economic news and then suddenly throws a massive week long national festival. It's totally manufactured bliss designed to make people feel so good they don't notice the massive problems bubbling just under the surface. Ah, and here's an emotional trigger that is just incredibly effective. You wrap a policy or some kind of action in the flag.
By doing that, any criticism of that action suddenly becomes criticism of the country itself. And just like that, a simple policy debate gets framed as, are you with us or are you a traitor? It is a wickedly powerful way to shut down any and all dissent. And this one, this is the long game, demoralization. It's this slow grinding campaign to convince an entire population that their institutions are corrupt, that their values are totally meaningless, and that things like voting just don't matter.
The end goal, to make people so hopeless and cynical that they truly believe nothing they do will ever make a difference. And a demoralized people, well, they won't fight back. So you've poisoned reality. You've hijacked emotions. What's the final chapter?
Well, it's about locking down power and making sure nobody can ever challenge you. These are the endgame moves. This is literally the oldest trick in the book, and for good reason. It works like a charm. A united population is a threat to power.
So what do you do? You break them into little squabbling factions. A classic example is a commander who plays up small rivalries between departments to keep them competing with each other instead of, you know, uniting to ask for better pay. They're way too busy fighting each other to notice who's really pulling the strings. And honestly, this slide says it all, doesn't it?
The whole goal is to take something that's unified and just create distance, to wedge suspicion and conflict into places where there used to be solidarity. It is at its core about breaking bonds between people. This is just a raw, unfiltered show of force. A diktat isn't a negotiation. It's not a compromise.
It's a declaration. Imagine after a big dispute, one side just presents a list of nonnegotiable terms designed to humiliate the other side. It's one party saying, here are the terms. We're not discussing it. It makes it crystal clear who's in charge.
And finally, for anyone who still dares to speak up, there's FLAC. This is a coordinated storm of criticism, personal attacks, and harassment. For example, a scientist who publishes a study that's inconvenient for a powerful industry might suddenly find themselves swarmed by an online mob attacking their character, their credentials, everything. The goal is to make the personal cost of speaking out so high that most people decide it's just safer to stay quiet. So that's the playbook.
It's a lot. I know. It's heavy stuff. But understanding these tactics isn't about becoming cynical or paranoid. It's actually about becoming immune.
It's about seeing the game for what it is. When you boil it all down, this is the end result thereafter. Poisoning reality is meant to make you confused. Attacking your emotions is meant to make you reactive and irrational. In all those power plays, they're designed to leave you feeling completely and utterly powerless.
Confusion, emotion, powerlessness, that's the state they want you in. But here it is. This is the antidote. This is the whole point of this explainer. The moment you can put a name to a tactic, oh, that's disinformation or that's FUD or wow, they're demonizing them, it loses its invisible power over you.
You can suddenly see the gears turning. And we're gonna pull back the curtain on some of the most subtle and honestly some of the most common techniques of logical manipulation. These are the kinds of tools that get used everywhere from ads to news headlines, even in arguments with family, all designed to win a debate without actually having a solid point. You know that feeling, right? I mean, you walk in with all the facts on your side, your argument feels totally rock solid, but somehow you walk away feeling confused, maybe a little outmaneuvered, and you might even start to doubt yourself.
It's maddening. Well, here's the thing. It's probably because you were playing a totally different game than your opponent. You were trying to have an honest debate, but they were playing to win using a set of rules you didn't even know existed. So today, we're gonna learn the rules of their game so you can spot it from a mile away.
Okay. First up, let's talk about the really subtle forms of manipulation. These are the techniques that are so tricky because they don't use outright lies. Instead, they just bend your perception of reality, kind of guiding you to a conclusion without you even noticing. A big one is called framing.
And honestly, the best way to think about it is like this. It's like choosing a very specific window to look through. Now the view you see is real, but the frame itself decides what you see and maybe more importantly what you don't see. It sets the terms of the debate before a single word is even spoken. And you can see just how powerful this is.
I mean, is it a public safety initiative or is it mass surveillance? Is it tax relief or is it tax cuts for the wealthy? See, the words chosen here are way more than just labels. They're entire arguments packed into a couple of words designed to get an emotional reaction from you before you've had a chance to even think about the facts. Okay.
The half truth. This one is so, so deceptive because it's really hard to argue with. The statement itself is technically true, which means if you try to challenge it directly, you're the one who looks like you don't know what you're talking about. The real poison is in what's being left out. This is the perfect example.
Right? 50% less fat. I mean, that sounds fantastic, but the real question you have to ask is less fat than what? Than another snack or like this example, than a stick of butter? That missing piece of context isn't some small detail.
It's the whole story. Now this next one is a deeply personal and, frankly, destructive tactic. The entire goal of gaslighting is to just slowly chip away at your confidence in your own mind, in your own memories, making you feel like you have to depend on the manipulator to know what's real. It's all about control. And this is such a classic line.
It's so insidious because it does two things at once. First, it dismisses your feelings. They're not valid. You're just overly sensitive. And second, it rewrites history, making you think your own memory is broken.
It's a really powerful way to grab control of a conversation. Alright. Next up, we have a classic sales and persuasion technique called the foot in the door. It works on a really simple principle of human psychology, getting someone to say yes to something really small and easy. Because once we say yes once, we wanna be consistent.
So we're way more likely to say yes to the next bigger thing. And here's exactly how it plays out. The small ask, hey, can you sign this online petition? It costs you nothing. It's super easy.
But the moment you sign it, you've psychologically committed. You're not just a random person anymore. You're a supporter of the cause. So when that big ass comes later for a $100 and your whole weekend, it feels a lot harder to say no. And you know, this whole family of tactics has a few other cousins.
You've got guilt by association where you just link an idea to a group people already dislike. Then there's labeling, just slap a word like extremist on someone so you don't have to deal with their argument. And latitudes of acceptance, That's the slow, steady process of making a crazy idea seem normal over time. They all do the same thing. Rig the game before it even starts.
Okay. Let's shift gears. We're moving into our second category now, tactics that are way less about subtle manipulation and way more about just brute force. The goal here isn't to convince you, it's to exhaust you, to confuse you, and in the end, just shut you down. So first up is the Gish gallop.
You can think of this as the debate version of a fire hose. The whole point isn't to be accurate or right, it's just to be fast. The person just fires off a dozen different claims, knowing that it takes way, way longer to disprove a bad argument than it does to just make one up. And it feels something like this. They'll just hit you with, well, what about the treaty from '87 and all the economic data is wrong and you completely ignored the ethical problems, and last year's report says something else, and what about the effects on trade, and my expert says you're wrong, and you never even address the footnote on page 42.
See? By the time you pick even one of those to respond to, they just move on, and it looks like you couldn't answer all the other points. This is a pretty similar idea, but instead of arguments, it uses data. It's basically a smokescreen of complexity. They'll bury you in hundreds of pages of reports and spreadsheets, making the whole topic seem so incredibly complicated that you just give up and trust whatever summary they give you.
And this is the classic move right here. It's an impossible chore that's disguised as a good faith offer. The sheer volume of the data becomes a weapon. It's a wall designed to shut down any real discussion and just make them look like the authority. Now let's look at a tactic that works by being empty instead of full.
Glittering generalities are all about using these big emotionally appealing words that everyone loves but that nobody can really pin down. They feel great but they're basically weightless. I mean, think about it. Who is against hope or justice or a better way? Nobody.
Right? And that's the point. These words are like a blank screen and we project all of our own desires onto them. The speaker doesn't need a real plan. They just need a powerful vulg word that you can fill with your own meaning.
So we've seen how reality can be framed and how debates can be totally overwhelmed. So the big question now is what do we actually do about it? How can we defend ourselves against this stuff and pull the conversation back to something more honest? Here's the most important thing to remember. Every single one of these techniques has the same goal.
They are all shortcuts. They are tricks designed to get around having a real good faith argument based on facts and logic. They manipulate. They overwhelm. They exploit emotions.
Anything to avoid an honest debate. And that brings us to your most powerful tool, just being able to spot the tactic. The second you see what they're doing, you can name it. Now you don't have to literally yell, that's a Gish Gallop at someone. You can just calmly say, woah, that's a lot of different points at once.
Can we just focus on the first one for a second? Or that's one way to frame it. Can we maybe look at it from this angle too? By simply showing you see the game, you can choose not to play it, and gently guide things back to the actual facts. Learning this stuff is not about becoming more cynical or getting into more fights.
It's about becoming a clearer thinker. It gives you the tools to demand better conversations from other people and, hey, from yourself too.
Speaker 0: We're cracking open the secret playbook used to build the very narratives that shape our world. And you're not wrong to feel that way. You see, powerful stories, they're almost never an accident. So let's dive right in and see how they're actually built starting from page one chapter one. Yeah.
These narratives are put together with some serious precision. They're architected really, built piece by piece using a very specific set of tools, all designed to influence how you think, how you feel, and ultimately how you act. Alright. First up, let's get into the architect's playbook itself. This is the blueprint, you know, the master plan for building belief from absolute scratch.
So the very first move in this playbook, it's all about controlling the playing field. Think of it like this, it's about drawing the map of reality for everyone else and setting the boundaries of the conversation before anyone else even gets a chance to speak. And the first tool they use is something called agenda setting. It's wow. It's incredibly subtle but so so powerful.
By just highlighting certain issues while totally ignoring others, they get to define what you think is important. They're literally drawing your map of reality by deciding which landmarks even show up. Okay. So if agenda setting is all about carefully drawing the map, the big lie, well, just drops a brand new impossible to miss landmark right in the middle of it. And the reason this technique works is just its sheer audacity.
I mean, the lie is so huge, so completely reality bending that our brains kind of short circuit. We just think, no way. Surely no one would have the guts to make up something that big. In this comparison, it just perfectly shows the two sides of controlling the playing field, doesn't it? Agenda setting, that's all about directing your focus.
It's a gentle guide for your attention. But the big lie, that's about dictating belief. It flat out tells you what to see. So one manages the conversation and the other one, it just invents the topic out of thin air. Okay.
Let's move on to the next chapter in the playbook. Once the stage is set, the game changes. The next step is to just completely bypass our logical, rational minds and go straight for something way more powerful, our primal emotions and our social wiring. First up is the appeal to fear. And let me tell you, this is one of the oldest tricks in the book for a reason.
By showing you something scary, it completely hijacks your brain's threat detection system. Suddenly, logic is just gone, and that primal need for safety totally takes over. And when that happens, we're way more likely to accept solutions we would normally question. It's all about making you feel something before you even get a chance to think. Now this next one, it's kind of like a shortcut.
Instead of trying to create a new feeling from scratch, it just taps into biases that are already there. You see, by framing a new idea so that it confirms a prejudice someone already has, the narrative just feels well instantly familiar and even more dangerously it feels intuitively true all because it's validating a belief they already hold deep down. So after hacking our individual emotions, know, or prejudice, the playbook shifts gears. The focus moves from targeting you and me as individuals to targeting our deepest social instinct. And what's that?
It's that fundamental human need to belong. And this brings us to the classic bandwagon effect. You've definitely seen this one. It's all about creating the impression that everybody is doing it, that a belief is already the majority opinion. This totally exploits our deep seated fear of being the odd one out, you know, of being left out of the group, and that pressure to just conform, it can be absolutely immense.
But then there's inevitable victory, which takes this whole thing a step further. It's not just saying, hey, everyone's doing this right now. No. It's saying this movement is the future. It's on an unstoppable march forward, And that tactic?
Wow. It makes you feel like if you don't jump on board, you're not just gonna be left out of the group, you're gonna be left behind by history itself. Talk about pressure. Do you see the difference there? It's subtle, but it's absolutely crucial.
Join the crowd is all about social pressure in the present, right now. Inevitable victory is about historical pressure from the future. But at the end of the day, they're both preying on the same desire we all have, to be on the winning side. They just play with different timelines. Okay.
So the stage is set, emotions are running high, but a powerful narrative still needs a compelling cast of characters. Because let's be honest, who delivers the message is often just as important, if not more important than the message itself. And to make sure that message really sticks, the playbook rolls out three main character types or archetypes. Each one is designed to build a very specific kind of connection with you, the audience. We're talking trust, desire, or in some cases outright devotion.
So first up, we have the plain folk character. This is the person who's presented as just an average Joe, a regular citizen, just like you and me. The whole goal here is to build trust, to create this sense of a shared identity. They want you to think, hey, they're one of us, even when behind the scenes, they might be representing some really powerful elite interests. Next, we've got the beautiful people archetype.
This one's pretty straightforward. The technique is to associate a cause with really attractive, successful, or famous people. It taps right into our aspirations. We see these folks we admire and the message whether we realize it or not is pretty clear. Hey, if you want to be successful and desirable like them, you should probably believe what they believe.
And that brings us to the final and maybe the most powerful character, the leader at the center of a cult of personality. Now this leader isn't someone you're supposed to relate to or even just aspire to be like. Oh, no. They are elevated to this heroic, almost godlike status. The goal here is to create a figure who is completely beyond criticism, someone you worship, not someone you question.
And you'll hear language that sounds exactly like this. This kind of over the top unquestioning flattery, it isn't just praise. It's a tool. It's used to put that leader up on a pedestal so high that any kind of criticism, any question at all feels like an attack on the savior themself. So the big question is, how does all of this stuff, the controlled reality, the emotional triggers, the social pressure, these larger than life characters, how does it all come together and actually, you know, stick in our minds for the long haul?
Well, are some deeper methods working in the background, almost like a psychological glue. You've got techniques like classical conditioning. That's where you repeatedly link a symbol with an emotion until you can't separate the two. And then there's exploiting cognitive dissonance, where a specific belief is offered up as the only way to solve some kind of painful mental conflict you're having. These are the things that really cement the narrative over time.
So when you really strip it all down, the playbook is, well, it's pretty straightforward, isn't it? Step one, control the reality. Step two, trigger the emotions. Step three, build the crowd. And the final step, anoint a hero to lead the whole show.
Look, knowing these plays, it doesn't have to make you cynical.
@Whiplash437 - Whiplash347
I want to share with you an interview from 1994 that changed my worldview and subsequently began my awakening. https://t.co/34oROsdxIw
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Speaker 0 asserts that the Moon was brought here twelve thousand years ago and is an artificial satellite rather than a real planet, capable of leaving Earth’s orbit under its own power. According to the Andromedans, the Moon was brought from Ursa Minor, from a star system called Chautau that had 21 planets; it belonged to the seventeenth planet and was one of four moons. He mentions ruins on the Moon and pictures that will be released later. He claims Apollo missions stopped because others were already there and told not to go back. The Moon is stated to be 9,100,000,000 years old and older than the Earth, with minerals on the Moon that do not exist on our planet. He says the Moon did not belong to Earth and was brought here, and that eight artificial bodies exist in our solar system that were brought here and can leave on their own power, with beings living on them.
He claims the upper echelon of the world government has known this for a long time but kept it secret due to power. Earth has been colonized for hundreds of millions of years. The first race to chart Earth was from the elephant draconis, described as reptilian beings ranging from seven to twenty-two feet tall and weighing up to eighteen hundred pounds; they do not like humans. They were the first to chart Earth and the first to establish a small colony on the planet eight hundred and nine billion years ago. One of the earliest colonized areas is North America, now the United States. He states there are approximately 1,833 reptilians still existing inside the planet, having lived there for thousands of years. They live 100 to 200 miles beneath the surface, with the planet honeycombed with tunnels and counters.
There are about 18,000 “grays” between Earth and the Moon, from beneath to the surface of the planet and the Moon. The Grays allegedly came from Zeta Reticuli 2, with a timeline of arriving there around 892,000 years ago. They were caught in a six-hundred-thousand-year galactic war in Orion between reptilian forces and humans. During this period, many female Grays were killed and they were genetically altered so they could not reproduce and their sexual organs would atrophy. The Grays supposedly bred out or removed the emotional part of their nature, becoming emotionless, effectively robots. It is claimed that about 2,100 actual Grays with souls remain, forming part of the original lineage in our solar system; the rest are clones or robotic without souls. The Grays allegedly have a problem of dying, which is why they are here, and Earth’s planetary society offers them a chance to save their race.
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Speaker 0: Moon was brought here twelve thousand years ago. Our moon is in fact an artificial satellite. It is not a real planet. It can literally leave our orbit underneath its own power. According to the Andromedans, it was brought here from Ursa Minor, from a star system called Chautau that had 21 planets in it.
It belonged to the seventeenth planet, and it was one of four moons. Now there are ruins all over it. But that was there. There are some pictures there. There's a lot more, which I don't have today, but it will be coming out.
This is why the Apollo astronauts stopped going back. It's because we were there was somebody already there that were told not to go back. This information is out there. K. Our moon is 9,100,000,000 years old.
9,100,000,000 years old. It is in fact older than the earth. K. It is many of the materials that are have been found on the moon. Minerals don't exist on our planet.
The moon did not belong to part of the earth. It was brought here, literally. Our solar system has eight artificial in it that were brought here. And literally, underneath their own power, leave our solar system. And there are beings living on it.
Now the upper echelon, the world government know this. They've known it for a very long time, But they didn't want us to know because of the element of power, and we'll discuss that. Now Earth has been colonized for off and on for many hundreds of millions of years. The first race to actually chart our planet was a group from the elephant draconis. They are reptilian beings.
They're anywhere from seven feet to twenty two feet tall. It can weigh up to eighteen hundred pounds. And they don't like human beings. Not here. Not anywhere.
They were the very first to chart it. They were also the very first to actually have a small colony here eight hundred and nine billion years ago. Now one of the very first colonies or places that was colonized on the planet is North America, what we now call The United States. There are approximately today, 1,833 of these reptilians still existing inside of the planet. They have lived here for thousands of years.
They live thousands of years. Their bodies are not like ours. They live anywhere from 100 to 200 miles beneath the surface. This is where they are, and it's all over. The planet is honeycombed with tunnels and counters.
There are approximately 18,000 what we know as grays between here and our moon, from underneath our to the surface of the planet and the moon. Now the grays. The grays originally came from Zeta Reticuli two. I'm giving you the drama and perspective. I'm not here to challenge anybody else's information.
I'm here to tell you their perspective. The Grays came from Zeta Reticuli 2. They left there eight hundred and ninety two thousand years ago. They got trapped in a war called the Orion War, which lasted six hundred thousand years. It was a galactic war between reptilian forces and human beings.
What happened was they were captured by a group in Orion, the constellation of Orion, which is Rhino Valtrex, Ursa Major, Ursa Minor. They were genetically altered there. Many of the females of their species were killed. So they could not reproduce so they could control the race. They also genetically altered them so that their sexual organs would become atrophied, and eventually, they just wouldn't be there because they weren't being used.
Now the Grays, at the same time this was going on, decided that the emotional part of themselves, of their personality was their weakest link. So they literally bred or thought out the emotional part of their bodies, of their character, which is why they have no emotion. They're robots. Today, there are approximately are approximately 2,100 actual grays, actual physical grays that have a soul that are part of the original race, the lineage of the original race in our solar system. All the rest, virtually every single one that are doing the abductions on people are clones.
They're robots. They're not. They don't have an essence. They don't have a soul in them. They're robots.
Does everybody follow me so far? Okay. The Grays have a problem. They're dying. This is why they basically are here.
Now we, as a planetary race, offer them a great opportunity to possibly save their race.
@DefiyantlyFree - Insurrection Barbie
“American people are the most propagandized people in the whole world and they don’t even know it.” This clip is brutally honest. https://t.co/eG8HsY7Rxg