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Saved - October 11, 2023 at 10:00 PM
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Congressman Dan Crenshaw physically assaulted a right-wing reporter, Noel Fritsch, from National File. This incident adds to a pattern of anger management issues, like when Crenshaw punched a table during the Speaker vote. Such behavior is unacceptable for a U.S. Congressman.

@LauraLoomer - Laura Loomer

WOW @DanCrenshawTX physically assaulted @NoelFritsch, a right wing reporter from @NationalFile today! Crenshaw is so unhinged. He has serious anger management issues. Remember when his knuckles were bloody during the Speaker vote in January because he got so angry with people who didn’t want to vote for @SpeakerMcCarthy, and decided to punch a table? Crenshaw is nuts. Totally unacceptable behavior from a U.S. Congressman.

@TheCharlesDowns - Charles R Downs

Dan Crenshaw kicked a reporter named @NoelFritsch of @nationalfile while @HowleyReporter and I were questioning him for @NationalFile about his support for the war industry. Looks like someone needs to be expelled from Congress.

Saved - November 10, 2023 at 12:52 PM

@MichaelDeLauzon - The TRUMP PAGE 🇺🇸

Investigative Journalist reports Hamas Training Camp on the U.S. Mexico Border and the FBI show up on her front door steps. She believes they want to silence her and her source. https://t.co/6WgTk7vc1b

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Sarah Fields, a Texas activist and journalist, recounts her encounter with the FBI. They wanted her to disclose her sources regarding stories she shared about the border. Sarah refused, citing the potential danger it could pose to her sources. The FBI persisted, even requesting a private meeting. Sarah declined and has since faced harassment from the agency. She has reported on disturbing incidents at the border, including pregnant women having their bellies cut open and drugs being hidden inside. She also exposed a Hamas training camp crossing the border. Sarah stands firm in her refusal to reveal her sources, as she believes the FBI has been weaponized against the right and does not prioritize protecting constitutional rights. She would rather go to jail than compromise her integrity.
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Speaker 0: My name is Sarah Fields. I'm a Texas activist, a constitutional government advocate here in Texas. I work in legislation. I'm also an investigative journalist for the Publica. What is happening to me and my family As Americans on American soil is not okay. A few weeks ago, the FBI Showed up at my door. They did not want information about the stories that I share. They did not want further information or details about the information that I've shared about the border. With boots on the ground experience, they wanted me to out my sources. After the 1st time they came to visit me, I wasn't here. They then called me on my cell phone later on that day, We didn't give them my cell phone number and wanted further information at about about a specific story that I shared about a few weeks ago about a Hamas training camp across the border from, Brownsville, Texas. I told them that I would never give them a source which would compromise and possibly place my source in danger, but that they were welcome to look up a conference that was held in 2021 where this exact thing was actually discussed. They then told me that they were uncomfortable talking about this on the phone and wanted to meet me in private. When is the FBI uncomfortable talking about something on the phone? Aren't we usually the ones who are uncomfortable because we think the FBI is listening? Needless to say, I did not go to their private meeting, and they have harassed my family ever since. They have showed up at my doorstep several times. They have called me. They have texted me, bond, and I will not speak to them. I have been to the border multiple times since 2021. I have shared stories about Women who are having their pregnant bellies cut open and babies left lying on the ground and drugs being stuffed in their bellies and then sewn back up. Stories about portable ultrasound machines owned by the cartel checking for women who are pregnant because then they are more valuable in the traffic in a trafficking situation. And then recently, the story about the Humaz training camp where young men dressed in dark clothing were crossing over the river in the middle of the night to conduct training illegally here in the states and then go heading back over the river to the camp once they were finished. That camp has, now been moved to a different location or has been shut down altogether as of late 2021 or early 2022. But my source is never wrong, and my source is the one who provided me with that information. I would never Provide a source to anyone, let alone a 3 letter agency that has been known to be weaponized against the right, especially in the last 3 years. Not only would I place my source in danger and compromise their position as far as their, availability to be able to report from where they are. I would also lose the trust of the American people as a journalist. I would lose all integrity. I would also be playing the part in possibly silencing someone that is just trying to reveal the truth. I will never reveal a source to an alphabet agency that has no interest in protecting the constitutional rights of the American people. I'd rather you just put me in jail first.
Saved - December 11, 2023 at 12:41 PM

@WallStreetApes - Wall Street Apes

America Is Turning Into A Police State Officers Aren’t Getting Their Way When Independent Journalist Stands Up For His Rights So They Start Making False Accusations Saying He “Sounds Intoxicated” They demand he turns off his camera, Officer Says “What’s The First Amendment?” https://t.co/WtB86uoJnf

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 engage in a heated argument. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of being intoxicated and making false accusations. Speaker 1 asserts their right to record in public and questions why the police are present when no crime has occurred. Speaker 0 insists on knowing Speaker 1's identity and asks for identification. Speaker 1 refuses to provide it and argues that it is the police officer's duty to identify themselves. The conversation continues with Speaker 0 urging Speaker 1 to stop talking and Speaker 1 questioning the use of tax dollars. The exchange ends with Speaker 0 providing their name and badge number.
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Speaker 0: I don't have to listen to you. Speaker 1: Well, I guess we're gonna be here all day then, I got none but I don't care. I don't care either. Speaker 0: You sound like you're intoxicated or or Speaker 1: Are you making false suspicious. Are you making false accusation? Are you making false accusations? Speaker 0: You. Are you It's ringing or not? Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with exercising your first member rights in public. You guys came to me, bro. I was What's the what's Speaker 0: the first amendment. Speaker 1: Pretty much pressed. Speaker 0: Okay. What are you Speaker 1: Right now, I'm recording you guys. Speaker 0: Hands, floor. Let's go. Speaker 1: Because I'm recording you too. Because you guys are funded by tax dollars. Speaker 0: Right. Right. And we're doing our job. Speaker 1: How about since there's no crime happening here, how about you guys disperse? Speaker 0: What we're trying to figure out. Speaker 1: Well, I've already I've already They explained it to you. Speaker 0: They don't called on you. You don't need to explain nothing to us. Speaker 1: Don't you wanna ask you're stupid. Get out of my side now. Speaker 0: For what? Well, I can't do nothing Speaker 1: to you because I go to jail. So get out. Speaker 0: Exactly. Speaker 1: Yeah. Because you got that badge. Speaker 0: That's right. Speaker 1: You got you got that badge. That badge is the only thing that's that's making you stand here right now. That's That's right. That badge Speaker 0: is I got called here. And I'm doing my job. Speaker 1: Well, Now that there's no crime committed, how about get going? Speaker 0: I don't know if there's a crime committed because you will not identify yourself. Speaker 1: I don't have to give my I don't care either. I don't talk to d d u. Speaker 0: Well, okay. So what what is the deal? I asked you if you were in talks to Katie, then you didn't give me an answer. Speaker 1: I don't answer questions. How about that? Oh, okay. How Yep. Well, I got none, But I got none Speaker 0: but time. Speaker 1: You guys can disperse at any time You guys want you guys can disperse it anytime you want. What's your name and best number? Speaker 0: It's written right there. Speaker 1: Written right there? Mhmm. Your name is right here? Yep. Can you pronounce it? Warndam. Bass number. 222. Good job. You already identified yourself. No idea. Next time, when I asked you for your identification. We don't know. What what happened? What what happened? When I asked you for ID, you give it to me. Okay? Speaker 0: You don't have to. How about how about you quit running your head? Do yourself a favor. Speaker 1: You're talking about tax dollars. It's your obligation to identify yourself. How do I know you're not in person? How do you know know, thank police officers. Speaker 0: Think we're a first man who called the police. Speaker 1: Isn't it? Speaker 0: They'll tell you what and not we are. Right. Good. Yeah. Well, that's Speaker 1: the home. For that one, were you? Yeah. That's the home point I've identified you. Sounds good. Sounds good. Yeah. You got me Okay.
Saved - January 9, 2024 at 12:33 AM

@RebelNewsOnline - Rebel News

BREAKING: Rebel News reporter David Menzies (@TheMenzoid) was brutally arrested by police after he tried to ask Chrystia Freeland questions. Visit Rebel News for more on this story: https://rebelne.ws/3RTGZiQ

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The video transcript involves a confrontation between a journalist and a police officer during a press event. The journalist questions why the government supports the IRDC and is subsequently arrested. The journalist claims innocence and requests the incident to be recorded. The journalist expresses frustration with the government's actions and accuses them of prioritizing political correctness over addressing important issues. The journalist's cameraman is also mentioned as being harmless. The police officer provides a brief statement about everyone's safety.
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Speaker 0: Miss Freeland, how come the IRDC is not a terrorist group? Why is your government supporting Islam on that? What? You're under arrest. Speaker 1: I don't fuck. Speaker 0: Police, you're under arrest. How am I under arrest? You bumped into me. You pushed into me. You I was just scrubbing with you. I've got my credentials here, and you just bump into me. So please You're under arrest name in your bag? Speaker 1: What's your name in your bag there, Clinton? We've been told you're under arrest. Speaker 0: Why am I under arrest? Come on over here. Speaker 1: We got a couple of Speaker 0: You know that. He he blocked my race. What? I've been just screaming, with Christian Freeman. Speaker 1: I'm a police officer. You're under arrest. What is your name and your I don't know. That's all. How is that possible? Okay. Because you saw the news for years ago when Black Bay contract Speaker 0: You mean I was asking questions of recipes? Speaker 1: No. No. You're asking Speaker 0: Lincoln, you caught this on video. Right? He's saying I'm pushing people over? Yeah. That's that's an absolute falsehood. Speaker 1: There were there were So Speaker 0: now it appeared that way. That's what you're saying, officer? Speaker 1: It appeared that was pushing people. I wasn't Speaker 0: I didn't touch a single person. I was Speaker 1: a little bit aggressive for what was happening. Get that you got it. You're under arrest. Please take the microphone out of my face. Speaker 0: Well, I'd like a I'd like an ongoing record of this. Can I have the microphone? Can I have the microphone? Can I have Speaker 1: the microphone? I don't know. Can you give me I'm not resisting. Oh, just take your hand out. Why why Speaker 0: why am I in the arena? Speaker 1: I'm just doing Resist. You don't need to resist. Sir, I don't have You don't have to say anything. You want you know the you know you know I I am not saying hi, officer. Speaker 0: Welcome to Black This is what they do to journalists. I was merely scrumming minister Freeland and a RCMP officer blocked And, evidently, this is now a trumped up charge of assault folks. I didn't come here to cause any trouble. I came here to do my job, And now I'm handcuffed. This this is you're Canada now, folks. You know? This is The gestapo taking blackface's orders. Outrageous. And meanwhile, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is Not a terrorist organization is not a terrorist organization. And these liberals have the audacity to show up at a for, for a plane in which almost 200 people were killed. 57 Canadians, 1 unborn child, by the way. And look at this. They don't want it is against the law and black faces Canada to ask insensitive questions, impolite questions. So a The government that props up an Islamo fascist regime, that's okay. But if you ask questions about that, that's not okay. This is an absolute outrage. Okay. I didn't come here to cause trouble, folks. I just came here to ask questions Speaker 1: and have now? Okay. They're conducting So that's Speaker 0: my cameraman, sir. He's not doing anything. Speaker 1: I just wanna provide a brief statement that everybody's safe, sir. Okay?
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Saved - January 9, 2024 at 11:53 PM

@AwakenRoar23 - Awaken The Lion's Roar

🇨🇦 How Bad Is It In Canada?? Rebel News reporter David Menzies was "arrested for assault" for asking Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland questions.. You can clearly see David did not "assault" Freeland or the Cop. It's arguable that he never even made physical contact. https://t.co/3DiCDn3cWk

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A journalist, while interviewing Minister Freeland, is arrested by a police officer. The journalist claims he was just doing his job and denies assaulting anyone. He requests to have the microphone and expresses his disbelief at being arrested. He accuses the police of following orders and compares the situation to the Gestapo. The video ends abruptly.
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Speaker 0: Miss Freeland, how come the IRDC is not a terrorist group? Why is your government supporting Islamo Speaker 1: now? What? You're under arrest Speaker 0: for a song. Why are you Hill? Who are you? You're under arrest. I don't think this is coming. Police, you're under arrest. How am I under arrest? You bumped into me. You pushed into me. You bumped I'm I'm just scrubbing with you. I've got my credentials here, and you just bump into me. So please You're under a registered neck? What is your name in your bag there, cunt? Speaker 1: They told you under Speaker 0: arrest. He he he blocked my on what I was just swimming, with Chris Jeff Freeland. I'm a police officer. You're under arrest. What is your name and your badge on that? How is that possible? Okay. Because you assaulted news 3 years ago, but black Speaker 1: on? You mean Speaker 0: I was asking questions aggressively? Speaker 1: No. No. You're asking. And we're almost pushing everybody. Oh. Speaker 0: Lincoln, you video. Right? He's saying I'm pushing people over? Yeah. That's that's an absolute falsehood. Speaker 1: There were there were people who shuffled over Speaker 0: the phone. So now it appeared that way. That's what you're saying, officer? Speaker 1: It appeared on that front? Speaker 0: I wasn't I didn't touch a single person. I was Speaker 1: a little bit aggressive for what was happening. Get that you got it got you're under arrest. Please take the microphone and out of my face. Speaker 0: Well, I'd like I'd like an ongoing record of this. Speaker 1: Can I Speaker 0: have the microphone? Can I have the microphone? Can I have the microphone? Hold on. Can I have Speaker 1: the microphone? Hold on. Can you give me I know. Speaker 0: I'm just gonna take your hand off. I'm on that? Why why why am I on the road? Speaker 1: I'm just doing my mom's resisting. You don't need to resist. I don't have a You don't have to say anything. You want you know the you know what you know the drill. I I have nothing to Speaker 0: hide, officer. Welcome to Black Faces Canada. This is what they do to journalists. I was merely scrumming minister on their Freeland and a RCMP officer blocked me? And evidently, this is now a trumped up charge of assault, folks. I didn't come here to cause in trouble? I came here to do my job, and now I'm handcuffed. This this is you're Canada now, Canada now, folks? Yeah. You know? This is the gestapo taking blackface's orders. Outrageous. Wow. And meanwhile, the Islam
Saved - March 1, 2024 at 3:36 PM

@theblaze - TheBlaze

Blaze Media Investigative Journalist @TPC4USA has now been taken into FBI custody for his J6 reporting Watch: https://t.co/OF9WVh26ER

@theblaze - TheBlaze

Would you like to know more? theblaze.com/truth

Saved - March 1, 2024 at 5:08 PM

@glennbeck - Glenn Beck

The FBI HANDCUFFED Blaze Media investigative journalist @TPC4USA and made him take a PERP WALK for his reporting on January 6th. This is unbelievable. https://t.co/yA2PILM9yk

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Terry, a gentle man, was handcuffed today. It's unbelievable to see him in a perp walk on Blaze TV.
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Speaker 0: Terry is, the clip of him being handcuffed today. If you're watching Blaze TV Gotta be kidding me. Look at that. Perp walk. This is the nicest, quietest, gentlest man I know. It's incredible. Unbelievable.
Saved - March 3, 2024 at 12:59 AM

@BreannaMorello - Breanna Morello

Just caught up with journalist Steve Baker just moments after being released from federal custody. @TPC4USA details what he’s had to endure at the hands of the corrupt DOJ. Watch my FULL report tonight at 7pm ET on Rumble and @BreannaMShow. https://t.co/mPIjzG7JPr

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I feel terrible after the humiliation I experienced today. Being put in leg chains for my words from 3 years ago is unimaginable. They want to silence us by targeting our speech. I need time to process and write down my thoughts before sharing with the world. This has been tough.
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Speaker 0: How are you feeling? Because that was a lot to take off. You know, I I if I'm being honest, I don't feel good right now. I I I'm, I'm still processing the humiliation that I just was put through. And, it's the most humiliated I've ever been in my life. Yeah. And, and it's for doing something that I believe that I was supposed to be doing back 3 years ago on January 6th. And so, the fact that I'm, you know, I was put in leg chains today is something I never dreamed would ever happen to me. And to be honest with you, it's not for things I said or did. It's for things I said. Yeah. You know, words that I said before or after or whatever because that's what that's what they're after. They're after to suppress our speech. And, I, you know, I I really don't know how to express myself in the way I want to yet. I'm going to have to process this. It's something I'm going to have to think about for 24 hours, you know Yeah. Yeah. And and then do what I do is write it all down. And, and then I'll I'll know what to say and what to, what to tell the world. You know? But this is this is yeah. It's it's been tough.
Saved - March 30, 2024 at 9:11 PM

@TaraBull808 - TaraBull

BREAKING: The FBI admits to spending all day visiting people's homes about their Facebook posts. Is the U.S government using intimidation to silence citizens? https://t.co/x3thkg12Kb

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A man is visited by FBI agents who ask for help in identifying suspicious individuals or groups. Despite reassurances that he is not in trouble, the man refuses to cooperate unless under arrest. The agents imply guilt by association and suggest that knowing someone who commits a crime could have been prevented. The man questions why certain groups are not targeted by the FBI. The encounter ends with the man contemplating how he would react if the FBI came knocking on his door.
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Speaker 0: Man has FBI agents knocking on his door. Speaker 1: And who were you with? FBI. Speaker 0: But the reason for their visit is puzzling. Speaker 1: State your presence. Speaker 2: State my presence and why we're here to talk to you? I'm here to talk to you, see if you can give us a little help. Be honest. Speaker 1: On what? Speaker 2: I I can discuss it, but we need to sit down and talk first. Speaker 1: About what? About what? Yeah. Speaker 2: Well, the FBI has a lot of programs going on where we try to identify some situations or people or groups that may be of interest in. You're not in trouble. You haven't done anything wrong, but you may know somebody that put the hair on the back of your neck up that you'd be willing to talk to us about, and that's why we're here to talk to you. Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I can't talk about something like that. Speaker 2: Okay. You say you're not willing to talk to us? Speaker 1: No. Not unless, I'm under arrest. Speaker 2: No. You have something done anything. Speaker 0: And if you don't know any suspicious facts, they will be softly spoken, but intimidate and suspect you. Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you done anything that may get you some publicity in the past? Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer Speaker 2: any questions. The reason it's you haven't done anything wrong. But you're known, and you're known to have association with sometimes people in your groups. There's always one that does something, and then everybody looks at the group and says, hey. We should have been talking to some people that knew this guy beforehand so that we could have prevented someone. Speaker 1: I see that in a lot of groups. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: Like Antifa, and I don't see nobody from the FBI going after them people. Speaker 0: What would you do if the FBI came to your door like this?
Saved - January 24, 2025 at 8:34 AM

@BigFish3000 - Big Fish

Sharyl Attkisson and Catherine Herridge testify in Congress. If you criticize the government they come after you. https://t.co/PW4YyfkDaS

Saved - June 23, 2024 at 11:15 PM

@therealmrbench - sonofabench

Police in Montreal, Quebec refused to assist and protect the assault of Rebel News reporter Alexandra Lavoie, covering the Pro-Hamas and Antifa encampment. The police have told her to talk to the city mayor. She was attacked with umbrellasand paint https://t.co/ocdKQES6dY

Saved - January 24, 2025 at 2:43 PM
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I discussed CBS News firing Catherine Herridge and the implications of seizing her reporting records. The conversation covered the Trump vs. Biden debate, the evolution of newsrooms, and how journalists are often constrained by intelligence agencies. I highlighted the emergence of independent news organizations and questioned whether Herridge's dismissal was linked to her reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. We also examined failures within the U.S. Defense Department and the potential of the Press Act to safeguard journalism. Finally, I reflected on the golden era of news and hinted at Herridge's next big story.

@PheonixLioness1 - PheonixLioness8379

Tucker Carlson: Why did CBS News fire Catherine Herridge and seize her reporting records? And how the Press Act can save the country. (1:19) The Trump vs. Biden Debate https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=79 (12:46) How Newsrooms Have Changed https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=766 (18:02) Journalists Held Captive by Intel Agencies https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=1082 (24:06) The Rise of Independent News Organizations https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=1446 (30:27) Herridge’s Records, Research, and Reports Being Seized https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=1827 (32:34) Was Herridge Fired for Reporting on Hunter Biden’s Laptop? https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=1954 (46:24) Exposing the Failures of the U.S. Defense Department https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=2784 (55:04) The Press Act https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=3304 (1:10:23) X https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=4223 (1:14:39) The Golden Era of News https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=4479 (1:17:46) Herridge’s Next Big Story https://t.me/police_frequency/121549?t=4666@Policefrequenc Includes paid partnerships.

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There's a significant lack of transparency regarding federal law violations at the border, which raises questions about safety and accountability. Current reporting suggests that federal employees may not face consequences for these violations, except for whistleblowers. The media landscape often sees multiple outlets covering the same stories, possibly due to limited time and shared themes. Independent journalism allows for more diverse storytelling. After decades in major media, the transition to independence has been refreshing, focusing on impactful reporting. The importance of protecting sources has become a central issue. The current climate has made the principles of free press and free speech more crucial than ever, highlighting a need for clarity and commitment in journalism.
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Speaker 0: Talking about. I guess the volume. Speaker 1: So Speaker 0: But there's not but to your point, I don't think there's great transparency on this issue. I hope to bring a little bit more transparency to it. Speaker 1: So in your judgment, that's a big deal story. Speaker 0: Oh, 100%. I yeah. I and it's not just I'm looking at what the the polling shows about the top issues for American, you know, American voters in this election cycle. I'm asking myself, I have information. I think there are violations of federal law and federal regulations every day, at the border. I need to find out if that's really if that's really true. And if it is true, why is it true? And who is really losing in that equation? Is is is the country less safe as a result or or not? I don't know the answer to all of that yet. But that's that's a very legitimate story to Speaker 1: pursue. Also, how does a bankrupt come country, which ours is, pay for all these services? I don't. Yeah. There are many questions. I totally agree. But so you're focused on the question, is the federal government violating its own laws? Speaker 0: Federal employees, yes. Mhmm. Speaker 1: And to the extent that you've reported it out, are you closer to an answer? Speaker 0: I I think based on our reporting so far that it's it really, tips that way. It does appear that way. And so my question is, where's you know, who's been disciplined? Who's been suspended? Who's been fired? Who's been demoted? And I'm not sure the answer is really anyone except the people who blew the whistle on Speaker 1: it. Really? Speaker 0: Don't make me give the story away. No. I don't. I wanna stop you right now. Like, I'm Speaker 1: I'm, like, so shocked. I mean you know? Speaker 0: But I think but that's the kind of, to me, that's the kind of story you wanna be doing. Right? I I just think it's, the thing that has always encouraged me about, the the, the consumers of news in this in this country is that they really understand this idea of accountability. They they they wanna see it. They expect it. They demand it. And and when you do it, I think it can be very gratifying to, you know, to kind of shine a light. I it sounds like so old fashioned, but to shine a light on an issue that really is worthy of that and is sort of screaming out for coverage. Speaker 1: How do you I've had many people ask me this over the years, but, you know, one channel will do a story or one newspaper will do a story, and then every other outlet will do exactly the same story. In some ways, it's like a really boutique story. You know, it's a a story of limited obvious importance, but everyone does the same story. Yeah. How do these like, who decides that? Where how does you know? Speaker 0: Ugh. Where does Speaker 1: that come from? Speaker 0: I mean I mean, this comes from the executives or the show producers. Speaker 1: But have you noticed that you know, I don't know how many news organizations are in the United States in a country of 350,000,000 people. They're they're a lot. Right. They all do, you know, on a in a given week, they do a suite of maybe 20 stories. Mhmm. Themes, you know, variations on the theme perhaps. But but, I I mean, what how why? You'd think that Speaker 0: I really I I wish I could answer that question. Speaker 1: But you've noticed this. Right? Speaker 0: I mean, when you look at the rundown, let's say, for an evening news broadcast, you'll see a lot of the same stories. Now that may be a function of the fact that they have such limited time to tell the story. Was it 18 or 19 minutes or 20 For sure. Or 20 minutes. Speaker 1: But it's the the topics are the same. It's just interesting. I'm not suggesting coordination, but I I do think it's a I don't know what it is. It's I think it's a conspiracy of like minded temperament. They all are kind of the same people. Speaker 0: I I just I don't know. Speaker 1: But you'll concede there are a lot of stories that they could be doing that they're not. Speaker 0: Yeah. I I think so. That's that's the appeal of being independent is that you can tell some of the stories that maybe you couldn't tell before. Speaker 1: Is it weird not to have a boss? Speaker 0: Yeah. It's a big change after nearly 4 decades of working, for major media outlets. It's a it's a huge change. I've had a lot of change in the last 4 months, 5 months. A lot. Speaker 1: Do you miss being scolded? Speaker 0: I miss being scolded. I miss the structure. I'm very used to the structure. And, you know, structure that, you know, has resources that you didn't realize that you needed until you went to do it yourself. I'm sure you understand that. Speaker 1: Been there. Speaker 0: Yeah. You've been there. Right? But I I really like working with a small team and as a group deciding what is it that we're gonna pursue next, and how can we structure this story that it has an impact, and what kind of reporting do we need to be doing, and at what point do we engage with government agencies? And how do we keep moving the story forward after after we do it? I I just find that just kind of exhilarating and refreshing all at all at the same time. And in a marketplace that's really just exploding where you're setting your own boundaries and your own rules. Right? You're saying, okay. I've got almost 4 decades of experience. This is what I believe journalism is. This is how I'm gonna execute it. These are my standards. These are my expectations, and I'm gonna be true to those. I'm I'm gonna follow it through. That's the exciting part of it. And then having a public that responds to it, which I'm, you know, so grateful for. Speaker 1: People like honesty in a world full of lies, I think. Do you feel that? Speaker 0: People are looking for credible, reliable information in a way that I never maybe seen in my lifetime working as a journalist. Speaker 1: So not maybe what you're saying is that as a business, journalism is, like, more discredited than it's ever been and more disliked. But individual journalists who decided to tell the truth are Speaker 0: I don't know. I don't know if I I don't know if I would go that far. I'm not sure how comfortable I am really commenting on the whole, you know, profession that way. How's that? I I just sort of come back to my, you know, I come back to my own, you know, my my own work. I I wrote something recently for the free press, which is really an amazing operation. It's Barry Weiss has really built it into this sort of, you know, engaging, driving thing, you know? It's like it's like a great source for information. I wrote something on on the press act. And, you know, the it's the protection of sources is the hill to die on. And it was such a great experience to work with them and to see the reach of that story and to take an issue that I felt needed to kind of, you know, poke up through the noise and get some attention. Because all of our our futures, our careers, rest on that basic principle. So to me, that's an example of, you know, an independent media outlet, which is really has a lot of impact and made a difference. Speaker 1: How, of the people that you worked with 30 years ago, were any still around in the business? Speaker 0: Oh, I'm trying to think. A lot of them are retired now. I went to a a reunion, an ABC London reunion. I wanna say it was maybe 7 years ago, 7 6 or 7 it was before I just before I went to CBS, and a lot of people were retired. A lot of people had, passed. 5 of them were already gone. Speaker 1: Is that weird? Speaker 0: Yeah. It's sad. But, I learned so much from them. And I think that not to sound, too sentimental, but I think you carry that on. I think one of the greatest things you can do at a certain point in your career is to share your experience and to share the skill set that you that you have. And I really enjoy doing that, especially with younger journalists. Speaker 1: How are you gonna do it? Speaker 0: Oh, you know, we I talk about this with our kids. How long am I gonna do this? And when will I retire? And that, you know, they all have the same verdict, which is like, oh, mom, like, you need to keep working as long as you can work. Because you're if we had you loose in the house all the time, it would just be crazy and you love I mean, I just love it. I feel fortunate to have found something I feel so passionate about. Maybe you feel Oh, passionate about. Maybe you feel Speaker 1: Oh, of course I do. Speaker 0: Maybe you feel the the the same way. Of course. And I I can't sort of both I'm I'm surprised even by the evolution of where I am today. And I'm surprised that I'm fighting in the courts to be protecting confidential sources. But if if there's something that folks who are listening and watching this can take away is that, you know, I came out of February, so it was a tough time. There's no question about it. But I had a lot of clarity, and sometimes crisis gives you clarity. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Speaker 0: And the idea of a free press and free speech, these really became my north star. They really became the driving force of what I'm gonna do in this next chapter. Speaker 1: Yeah. I couldn't agree more. And it's weird to wake up and see things you took for granted under threat. Speaker 0: Mhmm. Speaker 1: Did you ever think that free speech in the United States would be open to question? Speaker 0: No. I I wouldn't have anticipated the situation that I'm in now. That's that's for sure. Speaker 1: Well, we're rooting for you fervently. Speaker 0: Thank you. Speaker 1: Catherine Harris, thank you very much. 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One son asked if I would go to jail, and I couldn't assure him that democracy and a free press are valued here. I was shocked by the firing, but it felt politically motivated due to my reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. The media should release full transcripts of Biden's interviews to assess his cognitive state. There’s a need for accountability journalism, focusing on the powerful rather than the vulnerable. The Press Act is crucial for protecting journalists' sources, especially as independent media rises. My recent investigation revealed failures in the military's treatment of a soldier with a heart condition linked to the COVID vaccine. The public deserves credible information, and I aim to provide it. The landscape has changed, and I’m committed to pursuing impactful stories that hold power accountable.
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Speaker 0: One of our sons asked me, mom, are you gonna go to jail? And I wanted to tell him that in this country where we say we value I could get a little choked up when I think about it, but, you know, in this country where we say we value democracy and we value a vigorous press, that it was impossible. But I couldn't offer him that assurance. Speaker 1: I was shocked that they fired you. And when I reflected for a moment, I was not shocked at all. From my perspective, super obvious they're taking you out before the election because you're reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. 10 days ago ish, there was the debate. I've known Biden for over 30 years, and I thought that's not the guy I know. I mean, he's just completely different. If conspiracy nut, I would think he was a body double because it's that different. I'm so glad you're back here. Speaker 0: I'm so glad to see you. Speaker 1: You are not far away. Speaker 2: It's it's good. Far away. Speaker 1: We work together. We live near each other. It's all in many places. Amazing. How are you enjoying your new life? Speaker 0: Pretty well. It's, good. It's been an adjustment. I've had an energetic few months. Speaker 1: I knew you would. I knew you would. Okay. So I just have to ask you because you're I was in television a long time also, but you were in the the news side of television preparing interviews and packages and every day for decades. And given your extensive knowledge of that, I'm just a little bit confused by how the media people in our business, form of business, could look at the last debate with Biden and Trump and say, I just can't believe that there's something wrong with him. That he's neurologically compromised or ill or senile or whatever, that he's not operating the way that he used to. How could this be news to people who've interviewed him before? Speaker 0: Well, I think this is a real opportunity to gather more data and to take an investigative lens and look at this issue of president Biden and his decision to seek reelection. We've got some data points already. We have the debate Yeah. That you've just referenced that people were so surprised Yeah. His demeanor. And we now have this ABC interview and the full transcript. I think it's a moment where other media organizations who've done interviews with the president over the last couple of years could release the full transcripts from those interviews. I think it makes sense because we'd have broader data points to assess was this a one off, as the White House says, or were there indications of decline earlier on? Were they obvious and apparent, or were they subtle and missed? And and if they were obvious, why was it that they seemed to end up on the cutting room floor? I think that having this broader dataset for an independent review would really inform the public discussion about the president's decision to stay in the race. Speaker 1: And there's a lot of data to look at. I mean, I've known Biden, watched Biden, been around Biden a lot for over 30 years. And I remember my reaction in 2019 when he decided to run, once again for president for the 4th time, I think. I thought that's not the guy I know. I mean, he's just completely different. And then his sister told a friend of mine, actually, we're very upset because he's in cognitive decline. He's got some neurological illness, and we don't want him to run for president. So I immediately said that on Fox News. Speaker 0: So you reported that at the time? Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. And then I showed the tape. Like, look at this guy. And was attacked, of course, and ignored. So that was 5 years ago. I wasn't shocked by his performance of the debate, especially. But then other journalists were. They seem to be. Were they pretending? Or, like, what I don't understand how someone who did an interview with him, like, 2 years ago wouldn't have been aware that there was something wrong. Speaker 0: Well, I think it's an opportunity to provide this broader data set so there can be this independent review by the public. Speaker 1: What would that data look like? Speaker 0: Well, let's look at the what the transcript show. Do they show someone who is, you know, very consistent, very focused, very deliberate in their answering of questions, or does it show someone who's maybe struggling to stay on track or is lacking? Speaker 1: Do we have that case? Speaker 0: Well, media outlets who've conducted interviews with the president should have those transcripts. I mean, it's it's not standard to release video outtakes from an interview, but you could release the transcript. And I say that as someone who released the transcripts of my interview with president Trump back in 2020. Releasing a transcript, I think, is about transparency so you can have a broad overview of the interview. I think it makes sense because there are other headlines in the interview that maybe you your news organization is not gonna look at Right. Per se. You know, just sort of separately, I think you have a tremendous responsibility when you sit down with the president of the United States, probably the ultimate newsmaker, to ask questions that are of interest to your news organization, but also to others. Right? And then finally, I think a transcript, allows you to stand behind the edit that you either post online or that you broadcast. Right? Because then the public can see the sections of the interview that you, you know, condensed or you made edits for clarification. Speaker 1: Right. So I know that in, I haven't thought about this enough, but I know that in 2015 or 2016, the New York Times editorial board sat down with Trump, and they released a full, apparently, unedited transcript, which was chaotic. His speaking style tends to be a little discursive. Speaker 0: Nonlinear. Word, discursive. Speaker 1: Yeah. It is nonlinear. But, you know, that's that's well known. I think he's much better on camera than he is, you know, in transcripts, but but whatever you think of it, that they put that out there. I don't remember in the last 4 years any news organization interviewed Biden, and there have been some releasing a transcript of the interview. Do you? Speaker 0: I, you know, I I don't I can't recall, but I don't really I haven't gone back and looked at all of them. But But Speaker 1: so, like, what would be the so I guess what bothers me is that everyone acts like this is a shock. It was not a shock to me. I have no special knowledge. I'm quite some special knowledge, but I which I revealed immediately. But it was, like, super obvious every time I saw him, there's something wrong with that guy. How could the journalist be shocked? Well, why don't they just release immediately? Speaker 0: Well, they could. That's that's what I think makes a lot of sense right now to do that. That's ultimately up to them, but I think it just goes to transparency. I think it goes to informing the public discussion right now about the president's, fitness for office and to seek reelection. And I think it's also about standing behind your work. Right? Like, you decided to make edits in the process, for for clarity, for time, what you know, whatever the issue is. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 0: And so you can really you can really stand behind that. I think that's that's important. Speaker 1: But so, again, you were in this business for so long and me too and at a time, you know, pre Internet, pre streaming where you have a very small chunk of time, 3, 5, 6 minutes for the long ones, and then you you just can't use the rest. But now news organizations should just put the whole thing. I mean, that's what we do. I do this interview is not edited in any way. And if, you know, we'll just let viewers decide what they think of Katherine Harish or me or whatever. Speaker 2: Why is this? Speaker 1: Harris. Was that you know? But so what would be the excuse that, say, NBC or CBS or ABC or Fox or anybody would have to not put the full thing online now? Speaker 0: I mean, I can't speak to what their rationale would be. I just don't in my case, I felt it was important to to release a transcript Yeah. To allow people to see the work, and to also I mean, it's hard to look at your own transcript because you you look at it and you say, oh, that question could have been more focused, or I should have followed up more, or I missed that little piece of news. I should have drilled down a little further, or I interrupted there when I really shouldn't have. I mean, it's a really kind of warts and all process that you're looking at, but it's it's about sort of the raw integrity of the interview. You know, when you make edits in an interview, you do it for clarity. Sometimes you do it because you have to condense things because you only have a certain amount of time on a broadcast. But it's a real fine line and a balancing act, and you don't want, you know, seeking clarity and brevity or condensing it to cross the line into, you know, a cleanup on aisle 7. Speaker 1: Well, that's what it feels like, though. It does feel like and I don't wanna be too judgy. I was telling you at breakfast this morning, I edited something out of an interview once with somebody. I can't remember ever doing that before since, but and I would not do that now. But several years ago, someone said something so bizarre in the interview that I didn't wanna follow-up on it because I don't wanna I mean, what the hell are you even talking about? Mhmm. And so I asked the editors to take that out just because I didn't think it was relevant to the conversation. It was weird. Mhmm. So whatever. I did that. I'll say that I did that. But if you're interviewing someone, and he seems, like, bizarre through the whole interview, and you find yourself trying to cover that up, then maybe you're a liar. Mhmm. Do you think? Speaker 0: Well, I think the I think the instinct when you sit down with the president of the United States is this is your president. You want them to look their best. I mean, I under I understand that. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 0: But if there were indicators, and I don't know there were, but if there were indicators that he was in decline or he was really struggling to answer a series of questions, I mean, that's news. Right? I mean, that's a news headline. Speaker 1: Well, and the opposite of news is, of course, you know, censorship and deception. So if you're hiding that, then you're committing, well, a moral crime, but you're also committing an offense against the profession that you chose whose purpose is to inform the public of what reality is. Right? And you're hiding things rather than exposing them. And that I mean, that that's pretty clear violation, isn't it? Speaker 0: Yeah. I again, I think it's an opportunity to build the dataset, to better understand what's happened over the last couple of years and, you know, really apply that investigative lens. You know, I I find it so hard to take off my, like, investigative reporter. Right. But that's that's sort of how I see it right now. I'm curious. I'm genuinely curious to see what those transcripts may reflect. Speaker 1: Well, in 2016, you know, NBC went and back into its archives and found an outtake of Donald Trump saying something vulgar to Billy Bush, the host, about women and grabbing them and all this stuff. And then they leaked it to David Fahrenthold. I think I'm remembering this correctly. Speaker 0: Can't remember that exactly, but it came out public. Speaker 1: If I say if I've gotten that wrong, pardon me. But they leaked it to Washington Post reporter who had been a college friend of an NBC executive, and then it became this huge thing that, you know, almost derailed Trump's campaign. And that's why they did it, of course. So there's precedent for showing us the outtakes. Mhmm. Do they have an excuse not to show it to the Biden outtakes? Speaker 0: I mean, I I can't really speak for them. I I'm sorry to sort of be a little evasive about that. I just I just would advocate for it. I think that it's an issue of such import to the country, and it really informs the discussion and the discourse surrounding this this issue. And it and it goes to accountability with the White House. Was it really a bad night, or was was there a broader trend that had been developing? Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm I feel totally qualified to pass judgment on that question. Speaker 0: I'll over to you. Speaker 1: Well, since I knew the guy, that's not Biden. Like, that's not the guy I remember who and I mean this. I always I never agreed with him, but I'm a I'm a shallow person, so is he. So I always kinda liked him because he's throw you know, Irish guy throw his arm around. How are you doing, buddy? You know, rub your chest. Maybe sniff maybe he sniffed me. I don't care. I like sniffing. And that's just not the guy on TV at all, like, at all. And really, I mean, if that was a conspiracy, now they would think he was a body double because it's that different. So anyway. Alright. In your long and varied career working in a bunch of different big media the biggest media outlets in the country, Did you see people's political or social agendas shape news coverage a lot? Speaker 0: I I the short answer is is is yes. I think it's difficult for people to step back and do what I like to say I do is which is balls and strikes. Right? People have their own personal lens through which they see stories, but I think you have to really park that at the front door when you go to work because I think that's when you have the most transparent, credible, authentic journalism. Speaker 1: I agree with that. Do you feel like the composition of newsrooms has changed from when you started in the business? It feels like there was a greater, like, actual diversity of life experience back then, 30 years ago. Speaker 0: Hard to say. I started my career at ABC in London. Yeah. And that was, an extremely rarefied atmosphere in a lot Speaker 1: of That's right. Speaker 0: These are very we're very experienced people. A lot of the correspondents came out of Vietnam. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: You know, very, very deep experience, and I was very fortunate to learn in that environment. I haven't This Speaker 1: is when Jennings was so forced there. Speaker 0: Jennings had just left London by the time I had arrived, and, I I wanted to be a foreign correspondent. You know, when you're that young, you have ideas. I I just it's like it looks so exciting to me. Totally. And some of the correspondents in the office really took me under their wing and taught me how to write a story by looking at the interviews, the strongest elements of the interview, the sound bites, and then they trained me to really sit down and look at the video and identify the strongest video, and then the natural sound, which really can be such an important technique. Speaker 1: That sound. Speaker 0: That's right. When you're when you're editing a a piece together because it's really like this mosaic, the strongest sound, the best video, and the natural sounds. So this was a really rarefied environment. Have I been in in a newsroom like that since? I don't think so. Speaker 1: What was the difference? Was it smarter, more serious? Speaker 0: I I just felt with with that cohort of reporters, they're just it was all about accountability journalism. I mean, to me, if that's part of my DNA, it's it's What does that mean accountability? Accountability journalism is when you're you're curious and you seek the facts, and then you try and figure out where the buck stops. Right? And it's not a question of, well, it's this party or that party. It's whatever entity is responsible. Right. And accountability journalism is, you know, like they say, speaking truth to power on both sides of of the aisle. Speaker 1: So power is the key though. I mean, accountability doesn't necessarily mean, you know, hassling poor rural whites with diabetes, you know, the weakest, most despised people in our society. It means, like, you know, asking questions about BlackRock and the National Security Council and the people who actually have all the power. It it felt to me 30 years ago like that was implied. Like, everyone sort of thought that your job was to hold the powerful accountable, not the weakest. Speaker 0: I still feel that way. Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah. I do too. Speaker 0: We have that in common. I I Speaker 1: do too. Did you see that change? Speaker 0: Boy. You know, I I used to say to people that, you know, technology was supposed to really improve our ability to do journalism, but I sometimes felt that the technology has never been better, but the reporting's never been worse. And and I I don't know why that is except Speaker 1: Is there a connection? Speaker 0: I've never Speaker 2: thought of Speaker 0: I think sometimes what we're missing is that boots on the ground, person to person contact Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 0: In reporting. Years ago when I did a journalism degree at Columbia, I had this professor, Dick Blood. That was his name. Speaker 2: Dick Blood. Speaker 0: Dick Blood. And he was sort of a legend in New York City newsrooms, and he used to always say to me, detail matters and good reporting. You know, if you go to a crime scene, you wanna count how many bullet holes are in the windshield. So I think there's that kind of on the ground, sort of real traditional investigative feel sometimes that's that's missing in that person to person context. Speaker 1: Yes. Well, I agree with that. I remember going to a murder scene and looking down, there was blood all over my shoes. Mhmm. I didn't put that in the story. But I remember thinking, wow, you know, that actually is shoe leather reporting. You get a real sense of things when you can smell them. Speaker 0: You know, when you think back to major events, I I was in New York on 911, and we were down near, the World Trade Center in the days right afterwards. And I I saw someone who was collecting, ash off the top of the cars. And at that point, we'd realized that all of the abandoned cars in downtown Manhattan belong to people who had been killed in the towers. And I stopped this woman, and I asked her what she was doing. And she said, my sister was wasn't, the the windows on the world at the top of the World Trade Center. She didn't survive, and I wanna have something to bury for my family. So the ash is what I'm collecting. Speaker 1: Mhmm. Speaker 0: And that was the moment that I realized that so much of the ash that was spread around the city was really Speaker 1: People. Speaker 0: People and the buildings. And that kind of tactile feel to the reporting is the kind of reporting that really impacts people and stays and stays with them. And I don't know whether it's the technology or whether it's sort of the immediacy of all these deadlines, but the ability to do that, is much harder now than it used to be. Speaker 1: No. No. I and I I think that's really smart. And technology gives you the illusion that all the information is on Google or a text away when actually talking to people makes all the difference. Right. So one phenomenon that I noticed well, that I actually didn't notice until I was in middle age, but came You're Speaker 0: in middle age? Speaker 1: I'm well, that's what they claim. Okay. Actually, I'm way past middle I'm not gonna live to. I'm not good at math a 110. So I guess I'm in late life now. But there are beat reporters, people who've, you know, covering federal agencies, particularly in Washington, who become captive to those agencies, to their sources. You know, not in a literal sense or not held in the basement in chains, but they're I mean, they are sort of puppets of the people they cover. I really noticed that I'm thinking of one specific person who I'm not gonna name, but I would just say a female national security reporter in Washington who and I would watch these, you know, stories come out. I'd be like, that well, that that's a lie. You know it's a lie, and you're doing it on behalf of the people who feed you these lies. Mhmm. Have you seen a lot of that? Speaker 0: I think that the danger is that people become sort of so friendly with the the press offices that work in in these big, agencies that they they find it hard over time to really challenge them. Speaker 1: That was never a problem for you, I noticed. Should stay for we work together. For people who don't know, Catherine Herridge, one thing I've always loved about you, I don't even know who you vote for, and I mean that. But I did notice that a lot of the didn't like you, so I always thought that was a good sign. Speaker 0: You wanna you wanna have the ability to really operate outside the ring. I used I used to say that, one of the advantages to doing reporting as long as I've done it is that you start to build a network of contacts so that that's really where your your stories are coming from. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 0: And that the public affairs office and a major government entity is really the last stop for you. Right? That's where you're trying to get some response. And I really believe in in giving these offices ample time to respond. I did a story recently where we engaged with, the Department of the Army and the National Guard for 2 weeks. I mean, we really gave them time because we wanted to understand their position and what had happened in a particular case. But sometimes the danger is that people become too close. That's why I think it makes sense in in some cases to really rotate reporters so that you don't spend so long on a certain beat that you start to lose your context sort of outside of that circle. Speaker 1: That's exactly or you become a tool of of lies, which some, Pentagon reporters have become, I would say, one in particular. But what's the mechanism for for pulling that person back and putting that person on another beat or for fixing that? Speaker 0: I can I I when I worked overseas, Speaker 2: I saw this with some of the British news organizations, that Speaker 0: they would rotate people into the United States that they would rotate people into the United States for a few years and then they would take them back to Britain? So they would be there an election cycle, let's say, they'd be there long enough to build contacts, and then they would go back overseas, and someone else would come in. So you'd have a fresh set of eyes and ears. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: And I think that that makes a lot of sense. It can be a little frustrating for a reporter because on some beats it takes you a decade or more to really start to build the contacts and the reputation with individuals. But I do think that you have to check yourself. You have to ask yourself, am I really checking it out to the degree, that I need to be? As professor Blood would say, just because your mother says she loves you, doesn't mean you should not Speaker 2: check it Speaker 0: check it out. Right? Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: I I learned that firsthand. Yeah. Speaker 0: That's a that's a different conversation. Speaker 2: It Speaker 1: sucks. No. Totally kidding. It's so dark, but it is funny. So if you're paying any attention at all to what's going on in the world, you probably asked yourself, what would I do, not just for myself, but for the people who love me and I'm responsible for my family? 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Speaker 0: Well, I think within, big corporate media, there was still a sense that they were sort of the the the final word on things. Really? Yeah. Or, you know, sort of and maybe it's not the best phrase, gatekeepers Yeah. For information. But after I lost my job in February, I took a couple of months to really educate myself about the marketplace, and I was surprised at how much the media landscape had really changed just Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy that you wouldn't know that? I didn't know it either. I mean, I'm not criticizing you. I mean, I but isn't it weird that you can work? I'm in the news business, but you really don't know what the news business is. Speaker 0: I think you're very focused on what you're doing day to day, and you're not sort of looking at the bigger picture. But I took some time to to try and understand how the landscape had really shifted, and I was surprised at how much it had really evolved in the four and a half years that I was at CBS News. And I say this as someone who spent my entire career working with big corporations, and I was and I was grateful for those jobs. I don't wanna minimize that. Yeah. But what I see now is that those entities are really shrinking and contracting, and the audiences are getting older. And the real explosive growth is with, smaller independent operations and smaller independent newsrooms. Speaker 1: Why do you think that is though? I mean, if you're someone like Matt Taibbi, who also worked, you know, for Rolling Stone, you know, big worked for a big company, But then went out completely on his own. He has a substack, and then he creates his own news organization. But it's just one guy. And if you look at his growth and revenue, it's so much higher than, like, people with the backing of these huge corporations. Like, why how could Matt Taibbi get a bigger audience than Nora O'Donnell or whoever's hosting the show? I don't even know who's hosting them anymore, but, like, how did that happen? Speaker 0: I think I think the the public is really hungry for credible, reliable information. Speaker 2: So I Speaker 0: don't think it's more, complicated Speaker 1: I agree with you. Speaker 0: Than that. And I'm not here to sort of take shots Speaker 1: I get Speaker 0: it. With employers, but I I just that's what I came away from. Speaker 1: But what's so interesting is, like, if you have like, if you're, you know, General Motors and you have a sort sort of monopoly on your on your area, and all of a sudden, some guy starts building cars in his garage, and, like, they're more popular than you Mhmm. It's kind of an indictment of you, isn't it? Speaker 0: I think the speed at which things have have evolved has really surprised people. I mean, when you start to look at the I think we're at at an inflection point. Speaker 1: For sure. Speaker 0: You start to look at, the numbers. You know, for example, you did some interviews that related to the Biden investigation. Yeah. And these were, you know, 90,000,000 views or, you know, sometimes higher, but these are these are big numbers. And when you compare that to what an evening news broadcast is, you know, 4000000, 7000000, 6000000, I mean, you're just reaching a broader, larger global audience. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: And I would argue, and I don't have the benefit of all the data, but it's also a younger audience. And it may be an audience that's really engaged in gathering information. Speaker 1: Because if Speaker 0: they're on these platforms, they're checking multiple times a day for for headlines, for new video, for new content. So these are real, voracious consumers of information. Speaker 1: I think that's all absolutely true. But it leaves an answer to the question, how did this happen? How did, you know, penniless upstarts beat, you know, the entrenched monopolies? And I just know in my own life, the only moments of growth that have ever occurred for me, the pivot points of my life have all been those moments from, like, wow, I really suck. Like, I really made bad no. For real. Mhmm. You know? I drink too much, or I got caught lying, or I'm just kind of a rotten person. I have to change. Mhmm. And I got fired once for, basically, I was just lazy and not taking my job seriously. I stopped being lazy. I started taking my job. So you notice, like, it's really important to realize how much you suck. Speaker 0: Well, there's a forcing function. Speaker 1: Yes. That's what it is. Long winded question. Do you see that process playing out at in corporate media? Speaker 0: I can I can speak for myself right now? If, you know, I lost my job in February. You Speaker 1: just lost it? Like, you forgot where you put it? Speaker 0: No. I I I didn't actually lose my job. I I Speaker 1: I had a few drinks and lost my job along with my car keys and my cell phone. Speaker 0: Looking around for it. You know, my job was terminated. That was a very public thing. Speaker 1: I know. I'm not the people I put I was fired too. Speaker 0: I lost my company health insurance. That was a very big deal for us because we have a son who's a transplant patient. He's got chronic medical condition. And then I had my record seized by my employer, which was a red line I thought should never have been crossed. And then I was held in contempt of court. So February was a very, very big month for me. But I made a decision once I'd educated myself about the marketplace, which I would never have done if there hadn't been that forcing function, that for now I was gonna go independent. I'd had some opportunities from generous opportunities to sort of go back to a large corporate media outlet, but I decided that I would go independent and I would tell the stories that I couldn't tell before because I was at a point in my career where I had built up a network of contacts, and I felt now is the time. If it's not now, then then when? Speaker 1: Amen. I I couldn't agree more. So since you, brought up and I'm and I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make fun. I know it's it is traumatic to have your life turned upside down in a day. I just think you're gonna be so much happier. But let's talk about that. Like, so you get hired. You were at Fox News where we worked together, and I really enjoyed that. Thank you. Speaker 0: I enjoyed it too. Speaker 1: I thought you were really Speaker 0: You're very well behaved. Honest person. Speaker 2: I thought Speaker 0: the guy was a good moderating influence when we sat down to Speaker 1: I loved it. But then you left and went, to CBS News, which is a, you know, a huge channel with a storied past in decline in decline. This is my assessment because they weren't doing what they're supposed to do, which is, like, tell you interesting stuff that you didn't know and be honest and brave. You are honest and brave, and you specialize in interesting stories. So I thought, wow. This is so this is great. I mean, CBS is a little smarter than I thought they were. And you did break a bunch of stories, and you were the most memorable person on their air, the one doing the fiercest journalism. This is again my assessment, and then they have cutbacks because their business is failing, and they fire you. I'm like, wait. What? Did you see that coming? Speaker 0: I didn't see it coming. Yeah. I didn't. It wasn't a performance issue. I am so proud of the work that we did there, especially the work with veterans. I mean, we really helped be a catalyst for legislation that impacted a 1000000 veterans and civilians for for the better. Yes. I mean, I feel very proud of that. But, that's that's their choice. Whether I work there or not. It's not my company. Speaker 1: Of course. Speaker 0: But the the seizing of the records was, a terrible red line Speaker 2: that was crossed. Speaker 1: If you don't mind, I know this has been written about, but I just wanna get a record on video of what exactly happened. So how how did this unfold? Like, what kind of warning did you have, and what happened? Speaker 0: Well, I testified to congress, about this as well. I was, laid laid off on a Zoom call. I was told my job was terminated. And, Could you Speaker 1: explain why? Speaker 0: No. Not beyond saying that they were they were making cuts. And, I was, locked out of my email and locked out of the office. And, a couple of days later, a courier came to the house with just a couple of boxes of clothing and, some books and, you know, a few awards. And I said, where are all my investigative files and my research and my reporting notes? And she said you're just gonna have to talk to human resources about that. And I got the union involved, SAG, AFTRA. I'm not gonna go into all the details, but there was a very vigorous back and forth about returning the records. What Speaker 1: were the records, like, interview notes? Speaker 0: You know, what I would say is that there were interview notes, research, reporter notes, contact information. And, when I had left other major organizations, ABC and Fox, it was completely different. There was an understanding that you would go through your materials, you would take with you what was essentially your reporting materials, and you would leave what belonged to the company. And I knew from people at CBS that that what was happening to me was not standard. One person in particular said that, when their office was cleaned out, they put in dirty coffee cups and post it notes. I mean, everything came back to them. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 0: I think if the union hadn't gotten involved and there hadn't been a public outcry, I would never have seen those records again. The union really stood up for journalism. And I I testified that when the network of Walter Cronkite sees this your reporting information, including confidential source information, it's an attack on investigative journalism. And I heard from contacts that I've worked with over the years, who've helped me to expose government wrongdoing interruption that they were very concerned that they would be identified. Speaker 1: So you I mean, again, I I doubt you will agree with this. I don't know what you really think. But from my perspective, super obvious they're taking you out before the election because you're reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. And that was that's my take on it. I was shocked that they fired you. And when I reflected for a moment, I was not shocked at all. You know, they took out the Drudge report before the 2020 election. They, you know, whatever. Lots of people who are in the way have been taken out before election. So, what yeah. Do you think there was do you think your notes were did they go through your notes during the time they had them? Speaker 0: I really can't answer that. Speaker 1: Because you don't know? Or Speaker 0: I just don't wanna really answer that that right now. That's okay. Speaker 1: No. Of course. I think Yeah. I think people can draw their own conclusions. Tell us about the reporting you did. Speaker 0: Yeah. Publicly, they said they haven't, but, anyway, I'll leave it at that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Will be kinda tempting to go through your interview notes. I'd like to. I mean, why would they seize your personal report, reporting product, you know? Speaker 0: It was a very sad episode for me, just professionally and personally, because I thought that we had done some really tremendous work, on, not only, the the laptop, but also, the IRS whistleblowers. I mean, this was a major story for CBS News. I did an interview along with one of my colleagues, and I think that really changed the public discussion of a Hunter Biden investigation and this question of whether there was a double standard applied in that So in that case. Speaker 1: For those of us who missed the CBS report, tell us what the the the tax investigation into Hunter Biden. So Hunter Biden in the end got convicted of completely ridiculous gun this is my personal editorializing, but ridiculous gun charge. Like, who cares, actually? But there are other potential crimes. Tell us about the tax Speaker 0: Well, you have to I I would think about the Hunter Biden case as having 2 buckets. The first was the gun charges, and then the second is this tax case. I've always felt the tax case is a much more serious case Yes. And has the greatest legal jeopardy for himself and members of his of his family. It I'd encourage people just to look at the indictment, which is in California, and it's, my memory is that it's on the first page or the second page. They refer to him as a lobbyist. And that to me is an indicator that the special counsel is exploring whether there were violations of FARA, which is the Foreign Agents Registration Act. And that in simple terms means that if you're working on behalf of the interest of a foreign government, you need to be clear with the US government. Speaker 1: Just to register. Speaker 0: That's right. And seated throughout that document is information about his businesses with Ukraine, with China, with with others. So to me, it leaves the door open to a superseding indictment. I'm not saying that's gonna happen, but it certainly, to me, was an indicator or a flag that that was possible. Speaker 1: So, but the tax charges specifically, what what do they amount to? Speaker 0: These are felony tax charges. They're pretty significant. And a tax case, the challenge for any defendant is that these are paper driven cases. They're not really witness driven cases. What did you attest to when you signed the forms? What did your accountant attest to? And, I think one of the important elements in the case is how much of this happened after he was sober. Right? Because there's a whole window with the taxes where he's really, a heavy user and drug addict. But as he told the Delaware court last year when the plea deal fell apart, there was, a period of time where he became clean. So how many of these alleged bad acts happened during that period versus when he was an addict? Speaker 1: And that's relevant because sober people have no excuse? Speaker 0: Well, it just goes to your state of mind. Right? I think I think a Speaker 1: jury mistakes. Speaker 0: Yeah. I think I think any jury wants to understand someone who's come through addiction. They they wanna understand that. They're they're they're sympathetic to that because that's like a daily challenge for individuals. And I think that knowing when they were able to get themselves clean, I think, helps un inform, their view on the evidence and what actions Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's right. So what's the status of those charges? Speaker 0: Last, I haven't been following it as closely, but in the fall, I think that goes to trial. Speaker 1: It was just kind of inter I mean, this is relevant now, and I don't think it's often referred to in daily reporting on what Joe Biden is going through right now. So 10 days ago ish, there was the debate. People were shocked. Democratic donors appear shocked. Some I talked to one of them who really was shocked, didn't know that Biden was impaired. And there was a push, pretty sizable push, from members of congress for Biden to step aside, and he's now issued this letter, which seems to me is written by his son, Hunter, saying I'm staying it. And Hunter, it's been reported widely, is in the White House. He's his father's chief adviser on this. And you're sort of wondering, like, what is this? And you're saying, well, Hunter Biden is facing this trial. Yeah. It's probably better to have your dad be president when Speaker 2: when he's in a trial. Speaker 0: I I really can't really Right. Speaker 2: No. That's just saying Speaker 1: you don't have to connect those dots, but that's not an irrelevant fact that he's facing these charges. 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Mhmm. The gun and the taxes. Speaker 1: The gun and right. Interesting. So why do you think there's been that seems like kind of a big deal. It doesn't seem like there's been a new reported on it, but there hasn't been a ton of reporting on Speaker 0: that. I guess what I would say is that, I felt very proud at CBS News of the of the of the investigative journalism that we did, whether it was with the whistleblowers or whether it was, with a laptop. And I went to a lot of effort to get, data from that laptop, which had a very clean chain of custody Yeah. That I learned through my reporting was, mirrored what was given to the FBI, and I felt that was important to understand the integrity of of the data. Speaker 1: Given that that laptop had been described by a bunch of retired intel officials as Russian pop as fake. Speaker 0: Right. Mhmm. And we went to a lot of effort to, have it, forensically analyzed by a very reputable group and a group that was, with sort of no political attachments that was outside the beltway, a group out out west, and really a stand up group. Great group. They did a terrific forensic scrub of it, and and they concluded that there nothing had been altered or changed on the of the copy of the data that we had. Other journalists, got their data through third parties, And I think that that probably contaminated the data in some way, but I felt extremely confident, about our data. I, I guess what I would we did that story in, late 2022. And, you know, my reputation is for moving quickly and efficiently through complex investigations. Not believable. What does that mean? Not believable. Speaker 1: What does that mean? Speaker 0: I I think that, and I I wanna be respectful of my former employer. I think that there was an opportunity to lead earlier on that story. I guess I would lead leave it at that. Speaker 1: Well, I authenticated at day 1 because there was emails from me on there, and no one knew I knew Hunter Biden. So I knew it was real because no one would ever do you know, no one would ever fake it. Speaker 0: Your typos. Speaker 1: Well, so, like, I I had lived near Hunter Biden. That's how I knew him. And so, just live in Washington because you did. So it's not that weird if you live in Washington. It's like a small city. Everyone knows everybody else. But I knew that nobody knew that I knew Hunter Biden. So, like, if you're assembling a fake laptop, you wouldn't put emails from, like, the Fox News host on there because that's too weird. So I instantly knew it was real. And, I'm just a little bit surprised that it took you that long. So you're saying it didn't actually take you that long. There were roadblocks for Speaker 0: I just think my reputation is for moving quickly and, unfortunately, to a complex investigation. Speaker 1: Yeah. Did so but it took 2 2 years for that story to make air. Speaker 0: And I'm glad it did. Yeah. Because I think it really changed the conversation. Speaker 1: For sure. Mhmm. Interesting. Did you feel could you feel it at the company that, like, people didn't want you to do this? Speaker 0: You know, I I've always tried to be respectful of my former employers. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 0: And I testified to congress that, I mean, there was tension over, the Biden reporting. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 0: Especially when I sort of turned my lens on to president Biden. Speaker 1: Oh, didn't like that. I'm sorry. It it's it's I'll say it. You don't need to. I'm not even speaking of CBS specifically. It's so corrupt to me. It's just absolutely ridiculous. Because it's not a reporter's job to cover for a politician. Right? I'm just checking. Speaker 0: Well, you know, I I like to think that I call balls and strikes. People like to talk about the Hunter Biden reporting at CBS, but I was also the reporter who obtained the audiotape of president Trump apparently bragging about these Iran documents at Mar a Lago. Right. But they don't talk about that. Speaker 1: Well, I well, you should, I mean. Speaker 2: You should, Speaker 0: but I'm just saying, you know, I'm kind of equal opportunity when it comes to the accountability. Speaker 1: Were there any well, I know that, which is I'm what I'm saying is that your supervisors, whoever they were, and you're being very polite, I would say, but they should have the same fair minded attitude and, you know, allow reporters to tell the truth, period, no matter who it's about, I think. Don't you? Speaker 0: I think that's what the public's looking for. Speaker 1: And because they're not delivering that, Matt Taibbi is more influential than CBS News. That's all I'm saying. Like, it finds its own level. People need credible information. They need to Speaker 0: There's such a hunger for it. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: That's that's, we just, did our first investigation, on x, and we looked at, the defense department's, specifically the army and the National Guard's failure to look after a soldier who had a debilitating heart condition that they blamed on, the COVID vaccine. This was someone who had no heart issues before they entered the military, and we did an independent review of their medical records. And the symptoms appeared almost immediately after, being vaccinated, and they're really amplified after they had that that second dose. And, Speaker 1: Can you fill out some of the details? Like, how old is this? Speaker 0: She's 24 years old. Her name is Carolina Stancic. She was, a a soldier in the Army National Guard, and she was on active duty orders when she was diagnosed with this debilitating heart condition called POTS, which is postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. And what it means is that there's kind of a disconnect between the way your heart is working and your blood pressure. People can have blackouts, puts a lot of stress on your heart. And she's had multiple heart attacks. She's had a mini stroke At 24. And we sat down with her, just days before she got a pacemaker at 24. And this story, appealed to me for months because she had paperwork, we learned, from the army, or rather there was army paperwork that, showed that they conceded over time that, her heart condition was in the line of duty, and it it was especially important. And, when we launched that investigation, I felt along with the team that x was probably the only platform that we could have such an authentic and candid and open conversation about the failure of the US military to take care of its people. Speaker 1: But I just find that crazy. I mean, I have a 24 year old daughter, so it makes me emotional thinking about it. But a 25 year old child, this girl, has a peacemaker Mhmm. Because she followed orders. So or it seemed that's what she says, and that's certainly a credible claim given that's happened to a lot of people, and everyone knows that. So why would x, which is not was not designed as really a news platform, like, why are they the last outlet that would run something like that? That's crazy to me. Speaker 0: I I didn't really fully appreciate this until until I started working independently, but we felt that x was the platform where we could really have an open candid conversation and we could put out the records so people could analyze them and fact check them for themselves to understand the issue and make up their own minds as to whether the army and the national guard had really let this soldier down. Right? We just put it all out there for scrutiny. And, I say this, because what I heard anecdotally from from colleagues is that other platforms, that story, even though it was a story about a failure to take care of, of of soldiers, could be de amplified on other platforms or or or labeled something that Speaker 1: But why is NBC News leading with that? I mean, I thought we No. Speaker 0: I can't I can't really answer for those outlets. But But Speaker 1: we both know they would never run that. Speaker 0: I don't know if they would never run it, but I I just felt that it was a completely legitimate story. Of course. It was, it was a story, about accountability, a failure of the government to look out for its own people. And then in her particular case, it took her 19 months to get the acknowledgment that this heart condition was in the line of duty. And what that means is that she's eligible for different benefits and and medical care. But because there was such a delay to get medical care, because there was such a delay to get mental health care, she told us at one point she considered suicide. 24. And, anyway, I we heard from other people who believe that they have similar circumstances, and I and I say this with some humility. That's what good journalism does. Speaker 1: Well, obviously, there's no other point to it. Like, what's the point? I mean, either you're carrying water for people who are paying you to do that, which is just the definition of dishonesty, or you're doing what you're supposed to do. The reason we have First Amendment protections in the first place, which is tell the public what their government is doing, what the powerful people who control their lives are doing. I mean, I don't Speaker 0: And and and to the credit of the army and the national guard, we engaged with them over 2 weeks. I felt it was very important to give them a lot of time to respond to the charges because they were such serious charges, and they engaged with us, which I thought was a very positive thing because I'm now working independently. Right? I'm not working for a big corporation. And it it said to me that they understood sort of the power and the impact of what we were doing. You know, 3,000,000 people watched that video or touched that video. Speaker 1: Yeah. It's Speaker 0: a lot of people. And, you know, global and young people and probably a lot of service members as well. Yeah. So I I I wanna give them credit for that. They they engage. They try to answer our questions. Folks who are watching this can decide whether their answers, you know, pass the sniff test. But that's that's part of what Speaker 1: you're doing. You've got a very generous spirit, and you're trying to give people credit where it's due. I will say I've always thought just watching you from a distance that one of your main kind of advantages over everybody else is you cared less about, you know, what the prevailing view of the group was, and it didn't bother you to go in a direction that you felt was the right direction or to tell the truth even when it was unpopular. Why it does it feel to you like a lot of journalists are you know, it's a big deal to them what their colleagues think Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 1: Back in the newsroom. Speaker 2: Do you Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Mhmm. Speaker 0: I guess it it doesn't matter to me as well. Speaker 1: I can tell. Speaker 0: I I I I I don't really have any other sort of, explanation for it. I I would say, without getting sort of too personal because I'd like to keep the conversation professional Speaker 2: Well, it's just interesting. Speaker 1: It's like, why you Speaker 0: I just I just, if there's anything I hate more, it's injustice. I hate injustice when I when I see it. And, I just think throughout my career, I've taken on a lot of stories which are about the little guy. Speaker 1: Well, they should be. Speaker 0: Fighting the big bureaucracy or the person who says, wait a minute. It's not, you know, it's not adding up. And, so it's that's really what drives me in the end is that sense of there's injustice and there's an opportunity. In the case of this 24 year old, I think that we've seen some incremental, improvements to her situation. I hope that her records issue with the military is resolved quickly because at 24, she's really given up everything. I mean, she's she's given up her health to serve this vaccine. Speaker 1: And a lot of other people. I I mean, I know someone who died from the vaccine. Dead. Speaker 0: But it's not the story was the story was not a moratorium on the vaccine Right. Or the mandate. The story was always about the the alleged failure of the military to take care of its people because that's that's the sacred pledge that you leave no one behind. Speaker 1: Well, I agree, but I would say that pledge applies to the entire country. The government exists only to serve us. That's its only that's its only job. We pay for it. We own it. This is a democracy. And, so if they're hurting people and don't care, then that's the the gravest crime they could commit. That's my personal opinion. I thought that was everybody's opinion. Apparently, it's not. Speaker 0: Apparently not. Speaker 1: Yeah. Apparently not. Right. I'm not in the military, and I'm never gonna be in the military, but an American citizen. And if my government hurts me, I think it's just obvious that they should apologize and try to make it better. Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 1: But, but they don't. So you're saying well, we've had such a similar experience. You're like, you're in this little world, which you think is a much bigger world than it actually is. I'll speak for myself. And then you get ejected from that world, and you're, like, shocked, but then you thank god for it because, wow, there's fresh air and sunlight. And then you look around, and you realize that all these smaller organizations or individuals are having, like, a huge effect, and you didn't even know that. It's amazing. But one and I I just love the whole thing. But one of the problems is it's pretty easy it's pretty hard to take down, like, a big news organization because they have, like, a well staffed legal department. Pretty easy to take down an individual with law fair. Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 1: I mean, great? I don't know. Concern. Speaker 0: Yeah. One of the things I I'd like to talk about is this the press act. The press act is a piece of legislation, that's in the senate right now. It passed unanimously, in the house, and the press act is a federal shield law for reporters. It would allow them to protect confidential sources, and there are just very few exceptions to what I would call common sense exceptions for imminent violence or threats to critical infrastructure. And I've said that I think the protection of confidential sources is the hill to die on. Because if if you don't have that ability, a credible assurance that you're going to protect your source, as an investigative reporter, your toolbox is empty. I mean, you really have nothing to offer. And you know and others, I can't say a lot about it, but I'm in the middle of a major case where I was asked to disclose confidential source information. I refused to disclose. Speaker 1: Who asked you to disclose it? Speaker 0: It was a it's part of a privacy act lawsuit. I'm a witness in the case. And, I So Speaker 1: this is a private entity? Speaker 0: Mhmm. There's a a plaintiff. They're suing, government agencies including the FBI, and they wanna understand, the source of sources for my reporting, a series of stories, national security stories in 2017. And, Speaker 1: This is all public. So just remind me, who's suing? Speaker 0: A Chinese American, scientist, and she's suing the FBI, the Justice Department, Defense Department, I believe Homeland Security as as well. They're, like, 4 or 5 different agencies. And, the the plaintiff wants to understand how I got information, about her and her So Speaker 1: you're not being sued? Speaker 0: No. I'm not. I'm just a witness. Speaker 1: It's just the same thing happened to me. They grabbed all my text messages. I was not named in the suit, but a judge said I had to divulge. So they're trying to violate, among other things, your privacy, but also the the they're trying to violate the the protection that we all assumed was real, that confidential sources had. Speaker 0: Look. I I don't wanna lit I wanna be very careful because I don't wanna litigate, you know, the case the case here. But the issue is, the the forced disclosure of confidential source information. Speaker 1: And So that means you as a reporter talk to people, they tell you stuff on the condition of anonymity. I'm not gonna tell anybody that we spoke, but tell me the truth about what you know. Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 1: Correct? Speaker 0: Right. Speaker 1: And this is something that journalists deal with constantly. Speaker 0: If you don't have that credible pledge of confidentiality as an investigative journalist, you really have very little to offer. Speaker 1: Yeah. I've done it, like, 3 times today already. Speaker 2: Oh, wow. No. But that's just that's Speaker 1: your life. You know? Right. You're talking to people constantly about stuff and but everyone knows you're not gonna rat them out. Right? Speaker 0: The question is in the appellate court right now in Washington, and, the question is when when the need for that information overrides the first amendment and, the reporter's, privilege. I haven't lost a night's sleep over my decision to protect confidential sources. But that doesn't mean I don't feel a tremendous burden and responsibility with this case. Tell Speaker 1: us about the burden. Speaker 0: Well, it's it's so much bigger than just my individual case. It's it's not just about me. It's not about just a single series of stories. It's not about one media outlet. Whatever the courts decide, and and I have respect for the legal process and what's unfolding. Whatever they decide is gonna impact every working journalist in the United States. Speaker 1: Well, in the public. Speaker 0: For the yeah. And the public and for the next generation. And that's why, you know, the press act is an opportunity to really strengthen press freedom and press protections at a time, as as you mentioned, that there's this explosion of smaller and independent outlets. And they can't, you know, they can't withstand the legal and financial pressure. Speaker 1: Tell us about the financial pressures. Like, what does that look like? Speaker 0: Well, right well, right now, I'm, facing fines of $800 a day for refusing to disclose. That has been, put on hold, and I'm grateful for that pending the appeal, in in the court in Washington. But then there's the cost of litigating a case like this. This is not an inexpensive thing to do. I've been fortunate to have, Fox News, which has mounted a very vigorous defense, an excellent legal team. Speaker 1: Because you worked at Fox at the time. Speaker 0: That's correct. I worked at at Fox at the time. But not every outlet can afford to do that. And so having the press act would prevent them from sort of being sort of legally strangled in the future, and and losing that pledge of confidentiality. And if you believe as I do, that an informed electorate and an engaged, reporting core is fundamental to democracy, you're gonna wanna see this opportunity seized and and really realized. Speaker 1: Well, if you think the public has the right to know what its government is doing, which is kind of the bottom line as far as I'm concerned, and I think the public does public has no idea what the government's doing. I I can say that factually. No clue. They should know. And, then you need to make sure the mechanisms exist for them to get that information. Correct, I mean? Speaker 0: Yeah. So I I I testified to congress about this earlier in the year, and, I just feel like we're at an inflection point. There's just this incredible shift in the media landscape. There's this sort of exciting diverse group of new voices doing some really tremendous journalism. So this is the moment to me where you wanna offer these kinds of protections for confidential source protection at the federal level so that it's consistent with what existed in almost every state in this country. And I think it's an acknowledgment of the role that journalism should play and can play in the democratic process. Speaker 1: Yeah. It can't. You know, if you make it too expensive to tell the truth, nobody will. Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 1: And that's kind of where we are. I mean, you can take people out with lawsuits if you're some well funded political group, particularly on the left. They've been doing this at scale. You just you you shut people up by bankrupting them. Speaker 0: Well, one of our kids, as we were really, wrestling with the subpoena and how that was all going to unfold, and there's a certain amount of, you know, you can't keep your kids off their phones. Right? So they're seeing sort of some of this play out. And one of our sons asked me, mom, are you gonna go to jail? Are we gonna lose the house? Are we gonna lose everything that you've worked for? And I wanted to tell him that in this country where we say we value I could get a little choked up when I think about it. But, you know, in this country where we say we value democracy and we value a vigorous press, that it was impossible. But I couldn't offer him that assurance. And, the best part of the story is how he ended it. He said, mom, do what it takes. I've got your back. And I thought Speaker 1: Good day. Speaker 0: If a teenager understands the importance of this pledge of and understands the importance that journalism plays in a democracy, then certainly congress can get this legislation passed. Right now, it's in the senate. Chuck Schumer has said he would like to get it to the president's desk this year, and I hope there'll be movement before the August recess. 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We're on parlor at Tucker Carlson, and you can go there and find us and stay formed about what's happening in the world. So join a place that embraces your right to say what you actually think, and that fosters connections between people. Without free speech, you can't connect with other people. We're all just lying to each other. But Parler offers you that a seamless social media experience tailored to your needs. You can get Parler from the App Store, Google Play, or visit parler.com. At Parler, you are valued, you can say what you think, and you're awarded for doing so. Who's against it? Speaker 0: You know, I think there are some Republican members who have hesitations, about it. What I would say is that Speaker 1: Well, because they hate the media. Speaker 0: I I I can't speak to the their Well, I Speaker 1: hate the media because they're liars, so you wanna protect the truth tellers. I guess that would be my view of it. Speaker 0: I mean, I think the important thing to understand is that this is legislation that would do so much to protect these smaller independent out outlets where you have this diversity of voices, period, on both sides of the left and on the right. And it's a moment when we can codify those protections. And it's a moment when we can say, you know, we talk about the importance of the First Amendment, we talk about the importance of press freedom, and now we can actually really do something concrete to protect it. Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're right. And I I do think the one thing that we can do is just not obey. I mean, I was told to give up my text messages. I never should've done that. I knew I shouldn't have done it. I should've just, oh, they're gonna throw you one joke. Go ahead. Now come to my house. Try it. And I never should've done that, and in a weak moment, I did it. I I mean, clearly, you're facing this right now. I caved. You haven't. Bless you. But, I mean, what are you gonna do if they if they command you to do it? Speaker 0: I mean, I just have to cross that bridge Yeah. When when we get to that. In in the meantime, I've been so encouraged by how many media outlets have really filed briefs in support of of our position, that they understand that it's a case that's gonna impact everyone who's working today. And, that's encouraging. Speaker 1: Does it ever strike you how small our world has become? I mean, so you you work for 30 years or whatever more to become Speaker 0: It is more. More. Speaker 1: I'm not I I actually know how long it is, but I I'm not gonna a long time. And you become, you know, the most, arguably, famous investigative journalist in the United States. Speaker 0: I don't know about that. Speaker 1: Well, I I would say that's true. Or, certainly, you're top 2 or 3. I mean, well, you are. Okay? But you it's like you you'd think that every news organization be like, oh my gosh. Katherine Harris is free. Let's hire her. But you're independent on acts. Like, what does that say about the landscape? It's just it's amazing. Speaker 0: Well, it was a personal choice. Speaker 1: I I know that. Yeah. Yeah. But but, really, I mean, NBC in a normal world would be like, hey. We don't pay you $3,000,000 a year to do what you do. But they didn't. So, like, is is that a little strange? Speaker 0: I think it's an indicator of how the marketplace has really shifted. Yeah. I I think it's I think that's the biggest indicator to me. I didn't really understand how much sort of the Earth had moved moved beneath me in the last four and a half years. And when you start to look at the numbers, you see that, these big corporate out outlets are not, essentially the the gatekeepers on the information anymore. Yeah. That it's that it's much larger on these on these platforms. And I I really believe in my heart that there is a place for investigative journalism on platforms like X and and other platforms. People are just hungry for it. And that's the investigation we did. It's like as I said, about 3,000,000 people. I mean, that's a that's a good healthy number. Speaker 1: Do you don't seem angry, though. Speaker 0: No. I don't. I don't I don't feel angry. Really? Mhmm. Speaker 1: There's not a smoldering ball of rage inside towards your old employers? Speaker 0: No. I I, look. If they don't want me to work there, they don't want me to work there. I know the work was it was not a performance issue. I heard from many of my colleagues who were very, very sad Speaker 1: that Oh, I know. I I heard from them too. Speaker 0: Yep. But that's but that's not my call, in the end. The but the seizing of the records was a completely different thing. That was something that I was gonna go to the MET because I felt so strongly, Speaker 1: about Can you explain why they stole your stuff? Speaker 0: Well, in a letter to congress, they argued that they had not seized the materials. I think the language they used was that they had tried to secure and protect them, which I left me a little, speechless, because it was diminishing reporter materials to work product. And to say that what had happened was an effort to seize or protect my materials was I mean, it just showed that some executives had a very difficult relationship with the facts. Speaker 1: That's kind of a problem for news Speaker 0: I am restrained. I am restrained. Speaker 1: But if you have liars in charge of it, you know, the truth telling business, that's a problem. Speaker 0: Well, I'm not saying I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that. Speaker 2: Oh, I Speaker 1: am saying that. Speaker 0: I okay. Speaker 1: Alright. I'm saying that. I mean, that's just a you know? I don't know. There are certain businesses you sort of expect that, you know, time share sales or whatever, used cars. But, like, if your job is to tell the truth and the people in charge are just, like, lie for fun. Speaker 0: It was fair I said this before. It was very sad. Very, very disappointing, to see that see that happen. And I heard from people I used to work with, and they were really saddened by it as well. Speaker 1: Did any of them say I gotta get the hell out of here? I can't work for these people anymore? Speaker 0: I don't wanna go into the conversation. Speaker 1: But do you feel like people who remain at in corporate media jobs are desperate to get out? Is that your sense Speaker 0: in general? I think there's a lot of anxiety. Yeah. I I think people are starting to feel the sort of the earth move beneath them. You just have to look at the the ratings and the numbers to understand sort of the the for lack of a better term, the old order has has kind of disappeared. Speaker 1: That's for sure. How long can they keep going, do you think? Speaker 0: I don't know. Edge I think this election cycle will be, pivotal. If these town halls go ahead on x I think it's the partnership with NewsNation. I think that the the numbers on those town halls are gonna be just mind blowing in in the true sense of of the word, and it's gonna be global. And, I forget I think Elon Musk or, Linda Yaccarino posted on x what the numbers were with the presidential debate. And, I mean, when you looked at how many people watched it on, you know, traditional outlets versus the kind of, volume and engagement on on that platform, it's I mean, it was many multiple times larger. Speaker 1: Well, the entire political conversation in the United States plays out on x, period. I mean, I I can't speak for, you know, sports, entertainment, culture. I mean, there are many different verticals in any civilization, but the political conversation takes place on acts, period. Does not take place on any TV channel or any newspaper. You think that's fair? Speaker 0: I do. I think it's and I think it's exciting too, actually, to to see it, a little bit unleashed. It's not always pleasant. It's not always easy. But it's, it's sort of unleashed and evolving and engaging, and it's bringing in different points of view, and I think that's what civil discourse, is about. Speaker 1: Did you read it before? Speaker 0: I did. Speaker 2: But you Speaker 0: But I I when I was, when I worked at Fox, I was I was not on what was, Twitter at that time. And then when I went to CBS, I I joined because I thought it would be a good way for people to find me. Speaker 1: What role do you think x is playing in the media landscape right now? Speaker 0: Oof. Wow. You're asking me. That's a big, a big question. Yeah. Speaker 1: I don't know that I know the answer, by the way. Speaker 0: I I from my own experience, when I had an investigation that I thought was a sensitive topic, I felt very confident that I could put it on x and there could be a really engaging, candid, authentic discussion about it. And I thought that was important because, it seemed to be an undercover issue. This is the the soldier story. Yeah. And, I was really grateful for that, and I I would commend Elon Musk in in that way. I I kind of understood it. And then when I actually went to do it, I had a different and sort of larger appreciation for it. That people could have that conversation. And the the comments that we received were, you know, this happened to me or can you look into this. And I mean, it was a very organic thing. And I think that you can't look into every case. You can't follow-up on everything. Speaker 1: That's for sure. Speaker 0: But I think there's something very positive about people sharing their experiences and not feeling so isolated on a subject that's so sensitive. And I I think that's, really commendable. Speaker 1: Well, yeah. And there's no someone who thinks she's sincerely believed she's been injured because she followed an order has nothing to be ashamed of, and she does have a right to tell her story in public. I I I mean, the whole thing is so nuts. Did anyone would prevent a 24 year old girl who thinks she's been injured by following an order from talking in public is just like, you're not on the right side if you're preventing that. Don't you think? Speaker 0: I think it was the right thing to do. I I I first heard about her story last October, and it's always been in the back of my mind as a story that should be done. And so when I decided to launch the first investigation, it just seemed like a natural to me. Speaker 1: So when I thinking back when I got into this business when I left college in 1991, you've been in it for a couple years maybe before no. Not long. But Speaker 0: Yeah. No. 87. Speaker 1: 87. 87. So in 1987, you worked for ABC News in London. Speaker 0: The very the starter job of all starter jobs. Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to convey now to younger people the prestige that attached to that job. And you had, you know, all the all the credentials necessary to get that, and you went to Harvard and Columbia. Speaker 0: Well, the joke with my father was, did you really go to Harvard to make coffee and fax documents and photocopy? I said, absolutely. Yeah. 1000000. I I make the I do the best job photocopying and faxing if anyone I But it's about pride in your work. Speaker 1: Of course. Speaker 2: But it was such Speaker 1: a different world. Like, that was a really rich company then. I mean, they had, like, catering and, you know, executives flew 1st class. You can go wherever you wanted. And, I mean, do you ever look back on that and think, boy, that was just such a different time? Speaker 0: It was I was, in touch recently with there was sort of a little core group of us that were starting out at that time between the news desk and, what they call the production control room. And there were maybe 12 of us, so between maybe 22, 23, and 27. And, we look back on that period as kind of like a like a golden window in television news. The the quality of the correspondence, many had come out of Vietnam, or had come out of Washington and then got a foreign assignment. The crews were incredibly experienced. Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, Speaker 0: if you had a cameraman take your stand up, you know, he probably had been in Beirut during the very For sure. Bombing. Oh, for And the editors were so I mean, he learned so much from from all of them. Speaker 1: Oh, oh, I I grew up around that stuff. Yeah. Those guys were impressive. Speaker 2: I Speaker 0: mean, this was an incredible opportunity for me and very formative. Speaker 1: Yeah. And now yeah. It's just it's I remember filling out my tax return in 1991, my first job. I worked at a gas station on a factory, but I never, like, had a real job. And I remember, you know, occupation journalist. I was like, I'm a journalist. Now it's like, I mean, I don't even know what I would put on there. You know? I don't know. Armed robber would be less embarrassing. But it was you know, it seemed like a pretty honorable profession, I guess. That's what I'm saying. Speaker 0: I I, you know, I I hear what you're saying, and you're gonna accuse me of being so sort of deferential, but I just have always tried to stay focused on my own work. Like, I have to answer to myself. Speaker 1: That's not deference. That's the opposite of deferential and ask kissy. That's, like, that's integrity. Speaker 0: I just I just am like, is this the story I you know, there's stories in front of me. Which is the one that I should really be doing? Where can I make the most impact? What's the story that hasn't been told that I can actually Well, so that's Speaker 1: that's it right there. That I agree with you a 100%. It's like it's not that hard to tell the truth, I don't think. It's pretty easy. Actually, it's easier than lying. What's hard is figuring out what you should be focused on, and I think you're really good at that. What are the stories that should be told that aren't being covered? Speaker 0: Our our next project is gonna look at, the issue of, immigration and and the borders. And I don't wanna give it all away, but, we've got a lot of good data about how, homeland security is in violation of federal law and regulations on a on a daily basis and creating, I think, a significant security risk for many American citizens. And I think that that really deserves a deep dive. Yeah. And it's a story that I can really tell now that might have been hard to tell before. Speaker 1: So I can't even get, and I have tried, like, a clear number on how many people have come into this country illegally over the last 4 years. I mean, it ranges from 5,000,000 to 30,000,000, and I can't and those are all kind of credible estimates, and I don't I have no idea which one is correct. But why can't we get even a real number on that? Speaker 0: I I I I think the the simple answer may be, and I don't know, but my my assessment would be that it's just the volume that that we're talking about. I guess the volume. Speaker 2: So Speaker 0: But there's not but to your point, I don't think there's great transparency on this issue. I hope to bring a little bit more transparency to it. Speaker 1: So in your judgment, that's a big deal story. Speaker 0: Oh, 100%. I yeah. I and it's not just I'm looking at what the the polling shows about the top issues for American, you know, American voters in this election cycle. I'm asking myself, I have information. I think there are violations of federal law and federal regulations every day, at the border. I need to find out if that's really if that's really true. And if it is true, why is it true? And who's really losing in that equation? Is is is the country less safe as a result or or not? I don't know the answer to all of that yet. But that's that's a very legitimate story to Speaker 1: put in. Also, how does a bankrupt come country, which ours is, pay for all these services? I don't. Yeah. There are many questions. I totally agree. But so you're focused on the question, is the federal government violating its own laws? Speaker 0: Federal employees. Yes. Mhmm. Speaker 1: And to the extent that you've reported it out, are you closer to an answer? Speaker 0: I I think based on our reporting so far that it's it really, tips that way. It does appear that way. And so my question is, where's you know, who's been disciplined? Who's been suspended? Who's been fired? Who's been demoted? And I'm not sure the answer is really anyone except the people who blew the whistle on it. Really? Don't make me give the story away. No. I won't. Speaker 1: I won't. Speaker 0: I won't. I won't. Right now. Speaker 2: Like, I Speaker 1: I'm, like, so shocked. I mean you know? Speaker 0: But I think but that's the kind of, to me, that's the kind of story you wanna be doing. Right? I I just think it's, the thing that has always encouraged me about, the the, the consumers of news in this in this country is that they really understand this idea of accountability. They they they wanna see it. They expect it. They demand it. And and when you do it, I think it can be very gratifying to, you know, to kind of shine a light. I it sounds like so old fashioned, but to shine a light on an issue that really is worthy of that and is sort of screaming out for coverage. Speaker 1: How do you I've had many people ask me this over the years, but, you know, one channel will do a story or one newspaper will do a story, and then every other outlet will do exactly the same story. And sometimes it's like a really boutique story. You know, it's a story of limited obvious importance, but everyone does the same story. Yeah. How do these like, who decides that? Where how does you know? Ugh. Where does that come from? Speaker 0: I mean I mean, this comes from the executives or the show producers. Speaker 1: But have you noticed that you know, I don't know how many news organizations are in the United States in a country of 350,000,000 people. They're they're a lot. Mhmm. They all do, you know, in a in a given week, they do a suite of maybe 20 stories. Speaker 2: Mhmm. Speaker 1: Themes, you know, variations on the theme perhaps, but but, I I mean, why? You'd think that Speaker 0: I really I I wish I could answer that question. But Speaker 1: you've noticed this. Right? Speaker 0: I mean, when you look at the rundowns, let's say, for an evening news broadcast, you'll see a lot of the same stories. Now that may be a function of the fact that they have such limited time to tell the story. It was at 18 or 19 minutes or 20 For sure. Or 20 minutes. Speaker 1: But it's the the topics are the same. It's just interesting. I'm not suggesting coordination, but I I do think it's a I don't know what it is. It's I think it's a conspiracy of like minded temperament. They all are kind of the same people. Speaker 0: I I just I don't know. Speaker 1: But you'll concede there are a lot of stories that they could be doing that they're not. Speaker 0: Yeah. I I think so. That's that's the appeal of being independent is that you can tell some of the stories that maybe you couldn't tell before. Speaker 1: Is it weird not to have a boss? Speaker 0: Yeah. It's a big change after nearly 4 decades of working, for major media outlets. It's a it's a huge change. I've had a lot of change in the last 4 months, 5 months. A lot. Speaker 1: Do you miss being scolded? Speaker 0: I'm not even scolded. I miss the structure. I'm very used to the structure, and, you know, structure that, you know, has resources that you didn't realize that you needed until you went to do it yourself. I'm sure you understand that. Speaker 1: Been there. Speaker 0: Yeah. You've been there. Right? But I I really like working with a small team and, as a group, deciding what is it that we're gonna pursue next, and how can we structure the story that it has an impact, and what kind of reporting do we need to be doing, and at what point do we engage with government agencies, And how do we keep moving the story forward after after we do it? I I just find that just kind of exhilarating and refreshing all at all at the same time. And in a marketplace that's really just exploding where you're setting your own boundaries and your own rules. Right? You're saying, okay. I've got almost 4 decades of experience. This is what I believe journalism is. This is how I'm gonna execute it. These are my standards. These are my expectations, and I'm gonna be true to those. I'm I'm gonna follow it through. That's the exciting part of it. And then having a public that responds to it, which I'm, you know, so grateful for. Speaker 1: People like honesty in a world full of lies, I think. Do you feel that? Speaker 0: People are looking for credible, reliable information in a way that I never maybe seen in my lifetime working as a journalist. Speaker 1: So not maybe what you're saying is that as a business, journalism is, like, more discredited than it's ever been and more disliked. But individual journalists who decide to tell the truth are Speaker 2: I don't know I don't know if I I don't know if Speaker 0: I would go that far. I'm not sure how comfortable I am really commenting on the whole, you know, profession that way. How's that? I I just sort of come back to my, you know, I come back to my own, you know, my my own work. I I wrote something recently for the free press, which is really an amazing operation. It's Barry Weiss has really built it into this sort of, you know, engaging, driving thing, you know, it's like it's like a great source for information. I wrote something on on the press act, and, you know, that it's the protection of sources is the hill to die on. And it was such a great experience to work with them and to see the reach of that story and to take an issue that I felt needed to kind of, you know, poke up through the noise and get some attention. Because all of our our futures, our careers rest on that basic principle. So to me, that's an example of, you know, an independent media outlet which is really has a lot of impact and made a difference. Speaker 1: How, of the people that you worked with 30 years ago, were any still around in the business? Speaker 0: Oh, I'm trying to think. A lot of them are retired now. I went to a a reunion, ABC Lending Reunion. I wanna say it was maybe 7 years ago, 7 6 or 7 it was before I just before I went to CBS, and a lot of people were retired. A lot of people had, passed. 5 of them were already gone. Speaker 1: Is that weird? Speaker 0: Yeah. It's sad. But, I learned so much from them. And I think that not to sound, too sentimental, but I think you carry that on. I think one of the greatest things you can do at a certain point in your career is to share your experience and to share the skill set that you that you have. And I really enjoy doing that, especially with younger journalists. Speaker 1: How long are you gonna do it? Speaker 0: Oh, you know, we I talk about this with our kids. How long am I gonna do this, and when will I retire? And, you know, they all have the same verdict, which is like, oh, mom, like, you need to keep working as long as you can work. Because you're really, if we had you loose in the house all the time, it would just be crazy and you love I mean, I just love it. I feel fortunate to have found something I feel so passionate about. Maybe you feel Speaker 2: Oh, of Speaker 1: course I do. Speaker 0: Maybe you feel the the the same way. Speaker 1: Of course. Speaker 0: And I I can't sort of I'm I'm surprised even by the evolution of where I am, today, and I'm surprised that I'm fighting in the courts to be protecting confidential sources. But if if there's something that folks who are listening and watching this can take away is that, you know, I came out of February, so it was a tough time. There's no question about it. But I had a lot of clarity, and sometimes crisis gives you clarity. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Speaker 2: And Speaker 0: the idea of a free press and free speech, these really became my North Star. They really became the driving force of what I'm gonna do in this next chapter. Speaker 1: Yeah. I couldn't agree more. And it's weird to wake up and see things you took for granted under threat. Mhmm. Did you ever think that free speech in the United States would be open to question? Speaker 0: No. I I wouldn't have anticipated the situation that I'm in now. That's that's for sure. Speaker 1: Well, we're rooting for you fervently. Speaker 0: Thank you. Speaker 1: Catherine Hertz, thank you very much. Speaker 2: It's so good to see you. Speaker 0: Thanks for Speaker 1: having me. To you. To watch the rest unlock our entire vast library of content, you can visit tucker carlson.com and activate your membership today. In the name of free speech, we hope you will.
Saved - July 16, 2024 at 3:12 PM

@sav_says_ - Savanah Hernandez

I just confronted Kristen Welker of @NBCNews and asked her what her response was to NBC’s reporting that the attempted assassination against President Donald Trump was just “popping noises” She refused to comment as did the rest of the NBC crew in tow | @TPAction_ https://t.co/sZvWeDLekS

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NBC News reported popping noises during the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Savannah Hernandez confronts Kristen Welkner from NBC, questioning their faulty reporting. No response is given. Hernandez plans to question other mainstream media outlets like CNN and MSNBC about their reporting accuracy.
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Speaker 0: Excuse me, Kristen. I have a question. NBC reported that when was Trump was assassinated, attempted assassination, it was popping noises that, was initially reported. Would you have to respond to that? No? Yep. Alright. Yeah. This is Savannah Hernandez, and this is actually Kristen Welkner right behind me of NBC News. The exact same network that reported after the attempted assassination of Donald Trump that it was just popping noises. Kristen, would you like to say anything? No? Would any anybody, a part of NBC like to say anything about your faulty reporting? Not at all? Okay. So that's your mainstream media, ladies and gentlemen. And, we have CNN here, we have MSNBC, We have NBC. So this week, I'm really gonna try to ask all of these media members what their response is to their networks and this faulty reporting.
Saved - December 17, 2024 at 7:54 PM

@libsoftiktok - Libs of TikTok

Trans activist punches citizen journalist @dittletv in the face. TRANS VIOLENCE IS VIOLENCE https://t.co/bwdM4tftFF

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A woman is being confronted about her actions, with someone insisting she should not be allowed to leave. There’s chaos as people repeatedly ask where she is going and attempt to stop her. Accusations of physical aggression arise, with claims that someone has been hit. The situation escalates, and there are demands for accountability, including pressing charges. The speaker emphasizes that everything is being recorded on video, highlighting the seriousness of the incident.
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Speaker 0: No. Person says you're look. A woman Right. Right. He does not accept. He's not a woman that shouldn't be. Excuse me. The sexualization of children Don't let her go or him go. Yo. Where's he going? Where's he going? Where's he going? Where's he going? Where's he going? Where's he going? Where's he Where's she going? I'm about to have to get her again. Where is she going? Get her. Get her. Get her. Get her. Stop. Get her. Get her. Stop. What are you doing? Stop. What are you doing? Stop. What are you doing? Stop. What are you doing? Stop. What are you doing? Stop. What's up? Stop. He's touching me. He hit me. He hit me. He hit me. What the fuck? You understand me? Put her in a hurry. Put your hands on that again. Letting her go. Listen to me. They're letting her go. They have her right there. Okay? K. Now that They have her right there. You got it? No. Come back. I just got shocked right there. She's right there. Okay? You gonna press charges? Yes. I am. Okay. Oh, no. You got my It's all on video. It's all on video. Yeah.
Saved - January 29, 2025 at 4:36 PM

@Bubblebathgirl - Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸

Reporter at RFK Jr. hearing exposed having her article already written and titled BEFORE the hearing. https://t.co/xq4uO0iP8o

Saved - February 12, 2025 at 1:02 AM

@bennyjohnson - Benny Johnson

🚨BREAKING: Journalist Nick Sortor is contacting DC District Attorney Ed Martin to file assault charges against Maxine Waters and Elizabeth Warren: “I’m doing that right after this. I was taking punches and pushes. I was simply trying to get answers. No aggression.” https://t.co/DVJaKxm8RP

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We're simply turning the tables by asking legitimate questions, like how did these members of Congress get so rich? I think someone has to file charges for assault against these Democrat members and their staff. I'm going to reach out to the DC District Attorney to see what his jurisdiction is. This shouldn't be tolerated. I have a right protected under the First Amendment to simply ask questions. I wasn't being violent. I'm simply trying to get an answer to a question. The only aggression there is is asking aggressive questions that they don't like. I asked Ayanna Presley if she condoned FEMA sending $59 million to house illegals in New York City while people in Western North Carolina have been living in tents for the past four months, and I got the death stare of a lifetime. I'm going to live here in DC, and I'm going to do this on a routine basis.
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Speaker 0: This is nothing compared to what Republicans have to deal with every single day on Capitol Hill. So Republicans, members of Congress, are constantly barraged by reporters who chase them into elevators, who harass them, who are funded by USAID in order to make their lives a living hell. And all you're doing is turning the tables and simply asking legitimate questions. This is a huge question. How did they all get so rich? Massie Waters was named the most corrupt member of Congress. Elizabeth Warren is worth tens of millions of dollars. Nobody can figure out exactly why. So it seems completely and totally legitimate, yet you're assaulted for this. There's new sheriff in town, Nick. Ed Martin is the new DC District Attorney appointed by president Trump. Have you considered reaching out to potentially file charges for assault against these Democrat members and their staff? Speaker 1: No. I I think somebody definitely has to, but the the the issue that we have here is that I would have to go, as far as I'm aware, to the DC District Attorney. The the the district of, you know, the city of Washington, DC would have to be the ones to bring assault charges against these people, and the chances I mean, there's not a snowball's chance in hell that would ever happen. I mean, there's a there's a clear double standard here in Washington, DC. But, you know, Ed Martin's a good guy, man. Just reach out. We'll just see. We'll see what his is. Well, it happened Speaker 0: you know, the way that it works is is his jurisdiction because it happened on federal property, and this is how they were able the DC District Attorney can charge anything that happens in Washington, DC. You were in Washington, DC. And Speaker 1: Beautiful. That's what I'll do right after this then. Well, there we go. We're getting places here on the Benny Show, man. Speaker 0: Don't take legal yeah. Don't take legal advice, but, but I I'm I'm telling you is that that this shouldn't be this shouldn't be tolerated. You have a right. You have a right protected under the first amendment to simply ask questions. And you weren't being violent. Right? You weren't pushing or or or you weren't pushing or fighting anyone or punching anyone? They were punching No. Speaker 1: I was the one taking the punches and taking the pushes. That that's that that was me. I wasn't blocking anybody. I wasn't, you know, I'm not I'm not I I'm not getting in their paths. I'm, you know, simply trying to get an answer to a question. There's no aggression. The only aggression there is is is asking aggressive questions that they don't like. Yeah. Sure. It it's as simple as that. You know, Ayanna Presley, you you're talking about the FEMA situation. I asked her directly in the video that I'm about to post. I asked her if she condoned FEMA sending 25,000,000 or or I'm sorry, $59,000,000 to house illegals in New York City while people in Western North Carolina have been living in tents for the past four months, and I got the death stare of a lifetime. It was like a ghetto death stare, Benny. You're gonna see. I mean, I I've never gotten that look from a congressperson before, but it's like a look of intimidation because, you know, they think that they think they're gods. These Democrat congresspeople think they are god, that they're untouchable, and that nothing will ever happen to them. And, you know, I'm I'm here in DC now. I'm gonna live here in DC, and I'm gonna do this on a routine basis. So Good. They should be ready for it. Maybe I'll have to wear a mask like their, their masked minions so that they can't recognize me.
Saved - March 15, 2025 at 1:42 PM

@GuntherEagleman - Gunther Eagleman™

A reporter just shoved a microphone into Trump's face. "She just became a big story tonight... did you see that?" https://t.co/CGw61TjseW

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President Gaza is asked about his concerns regarding the situation in Gaza and his hopes for getting the homicide back, which has just become a big story. He is then asked if he saw that story.
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Speaker 0: President Gaza, mister president. Do you Gaza, you're concerned you're concerned about the situation in Gaza. What are the hopes now to to get the homicide back? She just became a big story tonight. Right? Yes, sir. Did you see that?
Saved - March 27, 2025 at 11:31 AM

@sav_says_ - Savanah Hernandez

After lunging at a reporter, calling for Ted Cruz to be “knocked over the head hard” and calling Gov. Greg Abbott “hot wheels” Jasmin Crockett is now being protected by Captiol Police. Why are Capitol police shielding Crockett from journalists now? https://t.co/izhqjcT0JC

Saved - March 27, 2025 at 4:36 AM

@LauraLoomer - Laura Loomer

How come none of the Congressional Reps asked @npr today during the House hearing about why the NPR White House reporter hit President Trump in the face with a microphone? Such a missed opportunity.

@LauraLoomer - Laura Loomer

🚨SCOOP🚨 I have identified the reporter who hit President @realDonaldTrump in the face with a boom mic this week while he was speaking to the press on the tarmac. Her name is Danielle Kurtzleben @titonka. She is the newly appointed White House reporter for @NPR and a massive Trump hater and LGBTQ advocate who once suggested during the 2024 campaign that Trump only spoke in Howell, Michigan because it has ties to the KKK. Did she hit President Trump in the face on purpose? RECEIPTS 👇🏻

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In Michigan, Trump will address crime in Howell, a town of approximately 10,000 people. His campaign stated that, in contrast to VP Harris, Trump aims to "overfund the police." The campaign has not explained why Howell was chosen as the location. Howell has historical ties to the Ku Klux Klan and was the site of a white supremacist demonstration last month.
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Speaker 0: In Michigan, Trump will speak about crime in Howell. It's a town of about 10,000. Ahead of that, his campaign emphasized in contrast to what VP Harris has said in the past, Trump wants to, quote, overfund the police. Trump's campaign has not yet responded to NPR's questions about why they chose Howell. Howell has historic links to the Ku Klux Klan and was the site of a white supremacist demonstration last month. Danielle Kurtzleben, NPR News, Detroit, Michigan. Secretary of state Anthony Blinken.
Saved - April 5, 2025 at 12:06 AM

@LauraLoomer - Laura Loomer

Probably just mad I exposed their radical left, Trump hating White House reporter who hit President Trump in the face with a microphone. She was so upset I exposed her, she deleted her X account. DEFUND NPR AND GIVE @LoomerUnleashed THEIR PRESS PASS INSTEAD. She got Loomered. https://t.co/dChFXi1FOj

@RobsRankings - RobsRankings

@LauraLoomer @billmaher Npr is going off on you at this moment. Complete propaganda. Should be defunded

Saved - April 13, 2025 at 10:24 PM

@LauraLoomer - Laura Loomer

WATCH: @LoomerUnleashed @TheCharlesDowns just confronted Democrat Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett @RepJasmine and asked her why she’s running around with tax payer funded security when she’s the violent person who goes around physically attacking independent journalists. https://t.co/WTPS3tAdo1

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Congresswoman Crockett is questioned about using taxpayer-funded private security. The questioner claims Crockett initiated physical contact and asks for an apology. Crockett does not respond or apologize.
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Speaker 0: Congresswoman Crockett, why are you running around with taxpayer funded private security when you're the one who hit me first? Would you like to apologize for your actions, congresswoman? You don't wanna apologize, congresswoman?
Saved - April 28, 2025 at 4:02 PM
reSee.it AI Summary
The White House has allowed Danielle Kurtzleben, an NPR reporter known for her anti-Trump stance, to return to press briefings despite her recent altercation with the former president. This decision follows ongoing claims about NPR's bias and calls for its defunding. Meanwhile, I have yet to receive a response regarding my media press pass application for Loomer Unleashed, despite my impactful reporting that has led to significant consequences for various officials. It's frustrating to see the preference given to mainstream media over independent voices like mine.

@LauraLoomer - Laura Loomer

EXCLUSIVE: The White House press team has allowed Danielle Kurtzleben, the radical, Leftist, anti-Trump @NPR reporter who recently hit President Trump in the face with a microphone, to return to the White House press briefings. This photo was taken this morning around 9:05 am EST during the White House press briefing with @PressSec and @RealTomHoman. This comes after constant gaslighting from the White House about how NPR “should be defunded” because of how much it resembles Deep State propaganda. Meanwhile, despite the fact that my reporting has led to firings at the NSC, NSA, and even got Hunter Biden’s Secret Service detail pulled, I still have not heard back about my application for a new media press pass for @LoomerUnleashed. We are told New Media is doing a better job than the Leftist media, but New Media continues to be disrespected while Trump haters who literally assaulted Donald Trump are allowed back into the White House Press room. Danielle was hoping she would get away with it, but when I exposed her, she literally went into hiding and deleted her X account because she’s guilty of assaulting Donald Trump. How does someone who hit President Trump in the face get allowed back into the White House? If one thing is clear after these first 100 days of the new Trump admin, it’s that the White House has a vetting crisis and it’s business as usual as it relates to Fake News media getting preference over independent media… even though my reports dominate news cycles for weeks on end. Nobody has broken more stories that have helped President Trump than I have. It’s just a fact. My reporting was so consequential, it was even utilized by President Trump’s own legal team. Wonder when I will get my press pass so @LoomerUnleashed can further break stories that benefit our country.

@LauraLoomer - Laura Loomer

🚨SCOOP🚨 I have identified the reporter who hit President @realDonaldTrump in the face with a boom mic this week while he was speaking to the press on the tarmac. Her name is Danielle Kurtzleben @titonka. She is the newly appointed White House reporter for @NPR and a massive Trump hater and LGBTQ advocate who once suggested during the 2024 campaign that Trump only spoke in Howell, Michigan because it has ties to the KKK. Did she hit President Trump in the face on purpose? RECEIPTS 👇🏻

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In Michigan, Trump will address crime in Howell, a town of approximately 10,000 people. His campaign stated that, contrary to VP Harris's previous statements, Trump aims to "overfund the police." The campaign has not explained why Howell was chosen as the location. Howell has historical ties to the Ku Klux Klan and was the site of a white supremacist demonstration last month.
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Speaker 0: In Michigan, Trump will speak about crime in Howell. It's a town of about 10,000. Ahead of that, his campaign emphasized in contrast to what VP Harris has said in the past, Trump wants to, quote, overfund the police. Trump's campaign has not yet responded to NPR's questions about why they chose Howell. Howell has historic links to the Ku Klux Klan and was the site of a white supremacist demonstration last month. Danielle Kurtzleben, NPR News, Detroit, Michigan. Secretary of state Anthony Blinken.
Saved - June 15, 2025 at 7:16 PM

@MrAndyNgo - Andy Ngo

Seattle — Journalist @camhigby was beaten by Antifa while documenting their violent riot in downtown. https://t.co/GiHSTxRe3b

Saved - October 21, 2025 at 7:16 AM

@MilaLovesJoe - Mila Joy

Journalist is filming the front of a local Homeland Security (DHS) office. The Director comes out & goes BALLASTIC at being filmed & ASSAULTS the journalist. Cops called. Cop SCARED of arresting someone from DHS. Detectives called… Will he finally get arrested? https://t.co/vhkEKaENff

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The exchange centers on a confrontation in a public/Louisiana parish building during a first amendment audit conducted by Justin (Speaker 0). Justin explains that he entered a public area and was subjected to aggressive behavior from a man who grabbed his belongings, attempted a headlock, and threw Justin’s phone. Justin asserts that this occurred in front of a deputy, who did not intervene. He claims the man (Ellis Booth) took his phone, assaulted him, and tossed it across the parking lot, while the deputy “did nothing.” Justin emphasizes that he was having a polite conversation when Booth acted aggressively, grabbed his property, and threw his phone multiple times. He argues that if he had done any of these actions, he would be in cuffs, and he questions why Booth has not been arrested. He challenges the deputy’s handling of the incident, insisting that the deputy witnessed the events and should have acted. He also claims the deputy’s inaction contradicts the duty to protect the public and enforce the law, noting he has a large social media following and intends to publicize what he perceives as misconduct. The dialogue includes several attempts to obtain formal statements and to follow proper procedure. Justin asks for a statement from the deputy who witnessed the incident, and for access to video footage (body cam) and other evidence. He asserts that the deputy’s eyewitness account should be sufficient to pursue charges, and he questions why extra steps or warrants are being pursued if the deputy clearly witnessed the events. He also mentions he has filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the body cam footage. Speaker 4, Detective Adams of the Cattle Parish Sheriff’s Office, enters the conversation and tries to mediate. He explains that a new process is necessary: a written statement and a signed affidavit from Justin before any warrants or arrests can proceed, since there is no direct on-site arrest of Booth by the acting officer. Detective Adams clarifies that if a judge signs a warrant based on the deputy’s statements and Justin’s signed affidavit, Booth could be arrested. He notes that the deputy did not witness the exact moment of the phone being thrown in Justin’s hands, but did witness the assault and the destruction of property. He emphasizes following chain-of-command and needing a judge’s warrant to proceed. The discussion includes comparisons of how officers would be treated if the roles were reversed. Justin argues that the officer’s standards should be the same regardless of whether the person is a private citizen or a Homeland Security employee. Detective Adams explains that the Homeland Security director (Beeson) was not present to arrest on-site and that Booth’s arrest is tied to the body camera and the deputy’s written report. The exchange touches on past incidents, including a controversial encounter involving a black officer and other officers, which Detective Adams says he plans to address separately with superiors. Towards the end, it is confirmed that Booth was arrested previously (yesterday) for simple battery and criminal damage to private property, but the battery charge was kept separate from the damage charge after Justin notes his phone’s condition. Booth bonded out at $1,255 cash and would have a court date set by the district attorney. The district attorney asks Justin to forward any video and his written statement. Detective Adams states he will present the materials to a judge, and if a warrant is signed, Booth will be arrested. Beeson is identified as the online security director who previously attended the incident, and there is a discussion about obtaining more video and verifying all witnesses’ statements. In sum, the transcript captures Justin’s allegation of police inaction during a visible assault and property destruction, the procedural requirement for statements and affidavits to pursue warrants, and the subsequent administrative steps that led to Booth’s prior arrest and ongoing cooperation with the district attorney’s office.
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Speaker 0: See? Speaker 1: This is a secure building outside. Speaker 0: It's not, sir. Outside. See? This is what Speaker 1: I do not touch me. Speaker 0: Do not touch me. Speaker 1: Did you ask to come in this building? Speaker 0: I don't have Speaker 1: to. It's a public area. A secure building. Speaker 0: She asked me a question, and I was answering her. We didn't Speaker 1: know what Speaker 0: This is what I was talking about. Get out of my face. Speaker 2: You just lost it. Speaker 0: Get out of Speaker 1: face. Right now. Speaker 0: Dude, are you gonna no. You you just saw him assault me and break my stuff and take my stuff and throw it? You need to take care of this, deputy. No. I I follow the law. He doesn't. Speaker 1: I follow the law. My Speaker 0: attention. My whole job is to follow the law. I know what I'm doing. Speaker 1: Alright. My my job is Speaker 0: Deputy, are what's your name, sir? Deputy. Please please deescalate him. Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna Speaker 0: Get him out of my face now. Speaker 1: What did you Speaker 0: I had I had I had every right to knock the shit out of you back there. Speaker 1: You had all rights? Yeah. Speaker 0: You you tried to put me in a headlock. You took my stuff. What did Dude, I was having a polite conversation. Speaker 1: Office. That is a fair Speaker 0: Deescalate him. He is losing his shit. He's about to lose his job. I guarantee you. Speaker 1: I I knew Speaker 0: Enjoy your last week here, bro. Speaker 1: When you stay in my office, that is just Speaker 0: Enjoy your last week here. Good. I get cops fired all the time because good cops love me and bad cops hate me. Deputy, need to speak with you, sir, please. This is a multiple purpose building, and those ladies invited me in. We're having a very nice conversation. My door. Yes, sir. Yes, buddy. You're right. Brother, I promise there was no he's the only person starting anything with me all day. If you wanna see any video, I'll show it to you in a heartbeat. Speaker 3: And then Speaker 0: he just came detective. And took my stuff. You saw it, dude. I'm gonna let them know what happened. He did the same thing inside before I came out. He did it twice. You need to like, if I did that to him, where would I be right now? In cuffs in the back of your car. So why isn't he? He's Why isn't he? Speaker 1: He's inside. Speaker 2: No. He needs Speaker 1: to be Speaker 0: in the cuffs in the back Speaker 4: of your car. Speaker 0: I understand that. So this isn't fair treatment. That's why I've no. That's why I've got my detectives over here. What chief detective What would you have done if I had done that to him? Be be honest. He grabbed your phone. That was it. And threw your phone. That was it. No. He put me in a headlock inside also. It's on camera. Well, grabbing my phone and throwing it, it's assault and battery. And and But did he hit you with it? And theft. No. Touching me at all, brother. Assault is just I don't even have to touch you. I'd have to threaten you with being touched, and that's assault. When you touch me, it's battery. And then you can add on, he took my phone from me and threw it. Right. Now it's destruction of property, the theft, you name it. If I did any of those to you right now, what would happen to me? I mean. Be honest. Just be honest. It's it's I would go to jail. Speaker 4: I've got Speaker 0: them coming over here. Dude, just do your job. Arrest him like you fucking would me. Alright. Right now, I'm gonna collect the statement from you. Dude, I'm not even gonna talk to you if you're not gonna do what you what's right. If you're not gonna do what's right, I'm not talking to you. Because if you're just gonna try to get my information and then go tell him, no. Call. I have to grab a statement from you of what happened. You don't have to I I did not I don't have to say anything. Okay. You want charges pressed? You saw it. Yes. I know. Okay. So for what you saw in your presence, act on it. You don't need a statement to what you saw with your own eyes. I did not see him physically hit you. You saw him take the phone. Okay. But there's there's Speaker 4: a procedure. Speaker 0: Do what with what you saw. Not what you didn't see. What you saw. Okay. But there's a procedure I have to follow. You wouldn't have followed it. If there's other way around, I'd be in cuffs right now. I still have to get a statement from I wouldn't be in cuffs. If you if you just Bro, just answer the question. Would I be in cuffs? Just answer it. At this point, no. Because Speaker 1: I wouldn't. See what happened Speaker 0: to took his phone and threw it across the parking lot, you no problem. I'll get a statement. I mean Do not tell me that. That's a lie. I have to give this you're not a good cop. You're a bad cop. Okay. You're a bad person, dude. You need to rethink what you're doing. Speaker 1: Okay. I'm post certified. Speaker 0: I'm older. No. You don't. You no. I'm doing my You take his side over the public. Speaker 1: No. I'm trying trying to Speaker 0: You're supposed to protect the public, not Homeland Security. Speaker 1: I am. Speaker 0: You are You're not protecting dude, you just saw a crime and you're doing nothing about it. And you're about to be all over the Internet doing nothing about it. I have a lot of subscribers. A lot. And they're all gonna see you doing nothing about it. Okay. And you're probably gonna lose your job too. I'm gonna make Speaker 2: sure you lose your job too. How about that? Okay. Speaker 0: Go in there and arrest him and do your do the right job. That's why I have my chief detective Why can't you? Are you a cop? I thought you knew what you were doing. You do or don't know what you're doing? I do know what you're doing. Well, then go arrest him. Why do you need someone else? Why do you need anybody else? You just saw it in front of your own eyes. He didn't see it with his own eyes. You did. So go do something, and then I'll talk to you. I don't trust y'all. I don't trust y'all. Who are you? Who are you? I'm the chief detective. I'm only gonna talk to you if you're gonna do the right thing. Speaker 5: Sure. Well, one of your guys just came in. We were talking to him. He come got a complaint form. We were trying to get all that for him. Speaker 0: Alright. So I was just trying to make a public record request. I was told to go do that in that in this building by, like, half a dozen people. I walk in there. The lady at the front desk says, you'll need to do that in the Homeland Security office down at the right. So I go down the hallway on the right, look inside the office, no one's in there, come back out. The ladies are like, hey, what are you doing with the camera? I'm just explaining, have you ever heard of a first name in audit? Speaker 5: Sure. Yes. Speaker 0: That's literally what I'm doing. Yeah. He comes in there, puts me in a headlock, takes my phone out of my out of my hand, throws it on the ground. I have to wrestle my phone out of his hand, then he follows me outside right in front of your deputy, takes my phone out of my hand again, and throws it across the parking lot. And guess what your deputy did? Nothing. Speaker 5: Okay. Let me go over and get some paperwork. Let me go over there. Speaker 0: Thank you. Speaker 5: Steve, where where do you feel comfortable talking to giving me a statement? Speaker 0: So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk unless so that deputy with his own eyes witnessed more than enough to arrest him. If you're gonna do the right thing, I'll come talk to you and tell you everything that happened. I'll show you videos. Speaker 5: That's what Speaker 0: we're doing. If you're not doing well If if you will give it to me, I would like to have your footage for the evidence. And I will. But but before I do anything, because I've been through this road before and I know how cops work, is you're gonna get all the information you can out of me and then tell me to get fucked. No. No. That's not Well and so with before I even make a statement or even show you a video with what that deputy saw with his own eyes is more than enough. Speaker 5: To him too. Speaker 0: So if if you do the right thing with what he saw alone, then we'll talk. Speaker 5: Yeah. Let me go talk to you. Speaker 0: Thank you. And can I get your name, sir? Speaker 5: So Duane Lester. Speaker 0: I'm Justin. Speaker 5: Okay. We're trying to make this right that he's not way superior. He's not don't Speaker 0: work for break the law, though. Speaker 1: I agree. Agree. Speaker 0: And he needs to go to jail just like I would. Speaker 5: And I'm not I'm not saying that that ain't gonna happen. I'm just letting you know that he don't work for us. Speaker 0: I understand that. And and, actually, that makes it better because if he did work for you, you would just give him he wouldn't he definitely wouldn't go to jail, but he's not even your department. So you can act on it. Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm gonna talk to the deputy and see what he's got on. Maybe he's got a body cam. Can watch or something. Speaker 0: I mean, his own I would you call him a liar or because he saw it with his own eyes, he could just tell you. He saw Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. I'm just asking. Speaker 0: He saw him do that Speaker 2: to me. Speaker 5: That my damn show to me so I could see it. Speaker 0: Like, if I if I if I ran up and grabbed your phone out of your pocket and threw it, what happens to me? Speaker 5: Sure. I I I Speaker 0: And that's only one of, like, 10 things that happened. Yeah. But that just that alone, what would happen? Speaker 5: Well, I mean, at at a minimum, it could be he took your phone. And Speaker 0: threw it. Yeah. No. What if I did that to you? What would happen to me? Speaker 1: You probably got jailed. Speaker 5: Thank you. Speaker 0: I mean, Speaker 5: likely, it's according to the yeah. That's what saying. I'm only Speaker 0: Well, was this whole story. It's a lot worse than that, but that alone would take him take me to jail. So let's do it to him. Speaker 4: Well, Speaker 0: he needs to Speaker 5: see what's happening here. Speaker 0: Do you believe that an a law officer has a higher standard or a lower standard that they need to operate on? You think that they should Speaker 5: I I 100% agree that Speaker 0: Higher standard? Standard. Okay. So then He's Speaker 5: not a law officer. So Speaker 0: Alright. Well, then even better then take him, dude. Who's asking? Speaker 4: Detective Adams with the Kettleman Parish Sheriff's Office. Speaker 0: Oh, the scumbags. Yeah. What's going on, dude? Speaker 4: Okay. Let me go ahead and stop you right there, mister McKenney. I'm trying to work this case, but I'm not gonna tolerate you insulting me. I'm not gonna insult you. Speaker 0: Unless you are Speaker 4: tolerate any other board. Hey, dude. Trying to help. Speaker 2: You're not, though. If you that line Hey. Let's let's stop. Okay? Did you arrest Ellis Booth yesterday? Speaker 4: That's the reason for my call. I need a statement from you. Speaker 2: No. You don't. And that's why I'm calling you names. That's why I'm calling you names, dude. You witnessed several Speaker 3: crimes. Speaker 4: No. I did not. Speaker 2: Your officer did. Your officer did. Speaker 4: I have a statement from that officer. Speaker 0: That's all Speaker 1: you need. He witnessed. Speaker 2: If you arrest him, I'll cooperate. Just like I told you yesterday, Until you do the right thing, I don't trust you. And I have a very good reason to not trust you because you didn't do anything when the officer saw it with his own eyes. Do the right thing, then I'll cooperate. Until then, I don't trust you for a very good reason. Speaker 4: So are you gonna write a statement and sign an affidavit Speaker 2: or Not unless you do the right thing because what I'm gonna do actually is I've already spoken to my lawyer, and your department's about to be on the hook, dude. You guys, that's dereliction of duty. That's not honoring your oath. You're gonna be named in the lawsuit. I'm not fucking around. Do the right thing. Speaker 4: I'm not either. Speaker 0: You don't you don't Speaker 2: need me. You don't need me to make the arrest. You don't need me. You need what your officer saw and the body cam and everything. Your officer's statement is more than enough to make the arrest. You decided not to when you had more than enough. Whenever you and him both admitted, had he seen me do the same thing, I'd already be in jail. So why isn't he? Why isn't he? Speaker 4: My first conversation with you. I have not talked to you. I haven't Speaker 2: seen you. Well, the head okay. There was a dude yesterday that said he was the head detective. And so I said, will you please go do the right thing? If you're admitting that if I did that to anyone here, I'd be in jail. Why isn't he? And they said, well, he's Homeland Security. Like, that makes him immune from the law. And I said, I'll make a statement. I will fully cooperate with you guys if you do the right thing, but I don't trust that you will. I know how you work. You want all my information. That way, you can just tell me to off and nothing happens. I've seen this go I've seen this a 100 times. If I can see that you actually want to do the right thing, then I'll cooperate. But there's no point in me cooperating with a bunch of crooks. I even heard you guys talking yesterday about what you could charge me with. Why would you why was that even a fucking conversation? Speaker 4: I don't know. I was not there. I didn't hear that conversation. Speaker 2: So why are you the one talking to me? Why are you the one calling me Speaker 3: right now then? You weren't Speaker 2: even there, dude. This is what I'm talking about. Speaker 4: Are you gonna let me speak for a minute? Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Go ahead. Speaker 4: Okay. The officer that was there yesterday left today going on vacation for a scheduled event. It wasn't because of this. The sheriff is gone. It's LSA conference is what it is. Okay? With that said, I've been left to try to sort this out. I've got a statement from mister Boo saying you attacked him. That's why I need a statement from you telling your side of what happened. The way that I do this is I present this to a judge, and if a judge signs a warrant for, number one, simple battery on you. Number two, destruction of your private property by throwing the phone across the parking lot as the deputy stated in his written statement, his report, then I will if the judge signs the warrant, I will arrest mister Booth. There is no bearing. I don't care if he's on the security or Speaker 3: Dude, your entire department. Speaker 4: Nothing to do with me. Speaker 2: You have enough to arrest him on what your witness on what your officer witnessed. What happened before that is quite frankly irrelevant even though he attacked me. And if you got statements from the two ladies inside, unless they're lying, which I don't they don't seem like the type, they'll vouch that he attacked me. Speaker 4: So when you say the two ladies in the office, that's the little brick building across the road by the White church or is that the court building? Which so I'll know which two ladies to talk to. Speaker 3: So you're I do not Speaker 4: have statements from them is what I'm saying. Speaker 3: What? So this is your department, dude. This is your department. How did they not get statements from them yesterday? So, dude, that's embarrassing. But it's Speaker 2: the listen. I'm gonna talk I'm gonna tell you what happened, but I'm not I'm I just don't trust you guys. Speaker 4: That's not I want it that day. I don't. Can earn the trust I will, but I don't I deal with that. I need you to tell me what happened or either give me something in writing Speaker 0: This is that Speaker 4: I can receive. Speaker 2: I I'll tell you what happened. I was there doing Speaker 3: a first amendment audit. Have you ever heard of that, sir? Speaker 4: I'm very familiar with Speaker 3: that. Speaker 4: Okay. And how it works. Speaker 0: But I Speaker 3: haven't even gotten to a building yet. And he is picking a fight with me where I'm having to back up away from him. He's he's a completely unhinged insane person. And I'm and I'm like, look, dude. Speaker 4: I agree with that. Speaker 3: You agree? Okay. Thank you. Speaker 4: I agree with that. Speaker 3: Yeah. He really is. So I walk in the front office. The lady in the front has nothing to do with him, but Speaker 2: I I don't know that at Speaker 3: the time. I asked her about it, and she says, yeah. His office is the last office down there on the right. Go down there and see if he's in there. So I walked down the public hallway, go to his door. It's wide open. I don't step even my toes inside his doorway. I'm outside of his door frame the entire time. I'm looking inside his Speaker 4: within your right's doing that. Speaker 3: Thank you for understanding that. What do you think your deputy should've done in that moment when he sees this man grab my stuff try to grab me, then grab my stuff, and throw it? Speaker 4: They should have arrested him for a simple battery and a criminal name, mister Frank. Speaker 3: Alright. Well, he didn't even think about it. Speaker 4: With that said, the reason that I called you was see if I could do the right thing on this, but I've already told you that I need a written statement a signed affidavit before I can Speaker 3: go further. No. You don't. With what your your deputy saw with his own eyes is enough to do something. You admitted just a second ago, what would what what should that have deputy have done? You said arrested him. Okay. Go for it, bro. So don't don't go back on your word. Speaker 4: What I have. Speaker 3: The brother, you just told me ten seconds ago, and I'm recording this, that he should have arrested him. Speaker 4: I am not afraid of your attorney. I'm not afraid of being recorded. Recorded. Speaker 3: I can see that. Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you I will do my job, but I've gotta have something to do Speaker 3: it with you. You don't, dude. Speaker 4: I will present listen just a second. Let me tell you what I'm gonna do. I will present what I have to a judge. And if a judge says he will sign a warrant on this, I'll arrest mister Booth. I do not have a problem with that. But a little bit of cooperation and less sarcasm on your part would go a long way with me. Speaker 3: It's not sarcasm, dude. I'm I don't trust you. That's not I'm not being sarcastic. Speaker 4: Word out of your mouth whenever you answer me on the phone and tell I tell you I identify myself as a detective with the Cattles Parish Sheriff's Office and the next word out of your mouth is scumbag Yeah. That's pretty derogatory to me. I make offense to that. Speaker 3: Okay. I don't consider myself Speaker 4: a scumbag. I consider myself a Speaker 3: fair Mhmm. Speaker 4: I try to do my job to the best of my ability. Did we not do exactly what we may have should have done yesterday? I can't do anything about yesterday. I'm trying to make it Speaker 3: right yesterday. You're still not. And You're you're Speaker 4: bent on trying to insult me and this Speaker 3: Well, listen. When you first called no. Speaker 4: But I did. Speaker 3: When you first called, I thought you were the detective I spoke with yesterday. Okay? I don't I didn't okay? And he is a scumbag, and I'll call that to him all day long. Okay? So that's why I called you that. I thought you were him. So I apologize for calling your name. I've never even met you. But your department is still a stumbag. Speaker 4: Seen me. I didn't see you yesterday. All of this was over by Speaker 0: the time I got Speaker 3: involved. But but guess what? You admitted just a minute ago that you wouldn't need a warrant to arrest him and that your officer should have done that yesterday. Speaker 4: I stand by that. He should have arrested mister Booth yesterday. Speaker 3: So you don't need a warrant, and you wouldn't have needed a warrant to arrest me. So why are we doing this? Just go get him, dude. Do your job, please. I'm begging you. Speaker 4: I told you. I'm gonna present what I've got to Speaker 3: a judge, and Speaker 0: it's You're doing Speaker 4: sign on my side. Speaker 3: You okay. Why are you treating him special like this? Be real. You wouldn't do this to if this was me, you wouldn't be doing this. You would have already got me. Speaker 4: I don't think we can get any further. We're not gonna agree on that. Speaker 3: So respectfully, you wouldn't need a warrant to arrest me. Right? If I had done that to anyone there, you would not be Speaker 4: I saw what happened. Speaker 3: Okay. Speaker 4: I did not see it happen. Speaker 3: Well, your officer did. And let's just say your officer came to you and said, he saw me do this. You wouldn't need a warrant to arrest me. So why do you why are you going through all these extra hoops and steps for mister Booth? Speaker 4: Because I did not see it. The officer saw it. Speaker 3: Okay. Please stop deflecting. Sir. Sir. You're literally Speaker 4: contrary to what you're saying. Speaker 3: You are deflecting. It's not contrary. You're deflecting. It's not contrary to what the officer said. And as I just said, what you you would not need a warrant to arrest me. You admit that the officer would have that you could arrest me for any of this. You are definitely 100% going through extra steps for him that you wouldn't do for me or anyone else. Speaker 4: No. I'm not. Speaker 3: You okay. You're so you would do the same thing. So if if your officer came and told you that he saw me grab someone's phone and throw it, you'd say, well, we we better get a warrant first. Speaker 4: No. And he should have arrested me on the spot. Speaker 3: Okay. That no. Answer the question. Don't deflect to a different question. The question is, if that same officer came to you and said that he saw me grab mister Booth's phone and throw it, he saw it. It's on camera, on his body cam. He he's the witness. Do you are you gonna go get a warrant for me, or you're just gonna arrest me? Speaker 4: My next question to that officer would be why don't you why didn't you arrest him? I do not have a problem arresting him. If I have some enough probable cause and a signed affidavit and a voluntary statement from you. Speaker 3: Well, you just got a statement. Speaker 4: Signature on a warrant. Speaker 3: You just got a statement from me, sir. I just I just told you everything. Speaker 4: Well, if you'll sign a voluntary statement and an affidavit at this point, I don't have a complaint in the computer from you. Speaker 3: You don't need a complaint. You're dude, why can't you get this? Your officer witnessed three crimes. So unless you don't believe unless he is he on the Brady list or something? Like, why don't you believe what he says? Go do it. Why are you why is it why are you gonna take my word over your own officers? Speaker 4: I'm gonna call my boss who is the sheriff. And if he tells me to proceed with this Speaker 3: Gotcha. Idea, Speaker 4: I'll do what I need to do. Speaker 3: Extra steps. Speaker 4: And if not, then Speaker 3: Extra steps. Speaker 4: I'm follow my chain of command. Speaker 3: No, dude. Just do the right thing. Why do you why are you putting these extra steps on for Booth that you would not do for anyone else? You're proving my point. Speaker 4: It's not just for Booth. Speaker 0: It is. Speaker 3: Way we do things No. It's not, dude. I do this for a living. I know how you work. I know when you the only time you ever go through all these hoops is whenever it's one of your own. I see I see this is literally what I do twenty four seven. I I know you guys better than you know yourselves. The only time you do these freaking extra steps and hoops and special treatment is when it's one of your own. If it was some some drug addict down the street, you wouldn't ask anybody. Speaker 4: Yes, sir. Called to let you know that been arrested and booked into the jail on 07/2825 at 01:09. Speaker 0: Okay. So you alright. Thank you so much, dude. Hold on one second. And so you arrested him yesterday. Did you go what was the charges? Speaker 4: Charge of simple battery. I did simple battery and criminal damage to private property, but you told me your phone was not damaged. So I took that charge off of the affidavit. Speaker 0: Yeah. Man, my OtterBox I swear by the OtterBox now. This thing is barely scratched. Doubt. Yeah. Speaker 4: I don't leave out of the store without one. It's just they pay for themselves. Speaker 0: I was like, there's no way it's not shattered, but it didn't even have a scratch. So okay. So he was arrested for battery. Did he bond out or anything? Speaker 4: He he did bond out. Yes. It was 1,255 cash bond, so he's bonded out probably back at work today. I told you I was gonna do my job. That's what I did. It's in the district attorney's hands now. But he'll be issued a court date, and I don't know that date or I will give it to you, but I can notify you. You should get a letter from the DA. I actually spoke to the district attorney today, and, he asked that you forward me any video that you had and a written statement, you know, stating your side of what happened. Speaker 1: Did you get Speaker 4: Outside the office. Speaker 0: Okay. I sent an email with a statement. Did you get that? And can I make a Freedom of Information Act request? Sure. I wanted the body cam. Okay. Actually, what's the officer's name that witnessed all this? Speaker 4: William Beeson. Speaker 0: Is he getting any kind of any kind of reprimand or anything? Speaker 4: I have not discussed it with his cap his patrol captain, but I will. Speaker 0: Would I be able to get the body cam for the arrest? Speaker 4: No. He he walked into the office. Here I I don't know if you know his role and all this. He is the online security director for the parish. He walks in and out of dispatch periodically. And when he walked in dispatch, I had already delivered the warrants down there, and he was out of town as a reason. He wasn't arrested on-site. But whenever he came back to town, he was to report to his supervisor, which is the parish police jury secretary, and he was going to be booked in then. He he didn't go to her office. He went straight to dispatch, and that's whenever they told him, hey. We have a warrant for your arrest, and they booked him in. That's where that went. Just kinda got off to a bad start. Like I told you, I'm an open book. I have nothing to hide. I believe in doing my job, and I believe in justice. So you know? Speaker 0: Thank you, man. Yeah. I I I honestly did not expect anything to happen, especially after your chief investigator didn't do anything. Speaker 4: And I I'm not trying to jump in their defense. There's more here that don't, and I'm I'm gonna ask you about it before we don't know. But him being the Homeland Safety Director, the the officer base and that was on the scene, I understand his part. He didn't know if he actually had the power to arrest him since he was a state employee over Homeland Security. And and I'm gonna support him in that decision because he just didn't know. Now had it been a life and death situation, you know, surely he would have done something, but I can get the names. But he's probably been out of the academy less than two years. Speaker 0: Then well, shows his mindset, and he doesn't have a good sense of morality if his default is I can't do anything because he's the government. Then you don't need to be an officer, honestly. Speaker 4: Let me ask you something. Did you when you and when you and mister Booger were standing on the corner by the bank, or on the corner by the courthouse and the black officer was there, did you have that recorded as well, the conversation between him and the black officer? Speaker 0: Oh, I know what you're talking about. And I heard about this through my friends, but I don't think I was there. Speaker 4: Okay. I I have a problem there. Speaker 0: And I Speaker 4: and if you have that on video, I would love if you could send that to me because I'm not happy with that situation there at all. And I have a report on that in my file from that officer, what he said to him, and that that's just not cool. Speaker 0: I mean yeah. That Speaker 4: We should be way past that. And here's my deal with that. I'm I'm being 100% transparent with you. If that guy got this rattled just from you walking into a public lobby and videoing and asking a few questions, is that who you really want over your homeland security in case of an emergency? Come on. Speaker 0: That's a really good question. Yep. Exactly. I Speaker 4: mean and and I if I get the opportunity, I plan on asking that question to his superiors. In fact, I've already met with the secretary treasurer and gave her a copy of this. If you were in a supervisory position, you're trained. You've got to overcome those obstacles and just do better, be better, and handle things differently. And if he can't handle this situation no better than he handled it, god help us if we have a tornado come through the middle of our parish. Alright. Like I said, I have nothing to hide off or anyway I can as long as I'm allowed to. If they shut me down, say, hey. No more correspondence. But I'll give you what I've got until then, till they tell me different. And so far, I thought the sheriff is actually at an LSA conference in Florida out of state right now. And I to him last night, and he said, absolutely. Call him back, you know, as soon as you get a minute. Let him know that Booth has been arrested, and we're gonna cooperate fully. So that's what we're Speaker 3: doing. Awesome.
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@KatKanada_TM - Kat Kanada

Lauren Southern opens up about being pressured by federal agents to work for them. She warn that there are many such cases. She was not the only one. @Lauren_Southern @we_unify https://t.co/RlCFnDOPJY

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The speaker recounts a long-standing pattern of interactions with federal agents, noting that jokes about agents reading their chats stopped being funny for a period. They describe being pressured to work for these agencies for months, a pressure that left no paper trail and was deliberately concealed. Each time agents visited their home, they were asked to shut off their phone and told not to tell anyone about what was happening. The speaker explains that the only reason they can discuss the situation now is that they made a deliberate, fear-driven decision to do so. They recall sweating and nearly vomiting, and they went so far as to clip a DJI microphone to their bra before every visit, anxious that the device would beep or reveal what was being discussed. This precaution reflects the level of fear and the stakes involved in the interactions. They claim to have later confronted Parliament about the surveillance and pressure campaigns they faced, actions taken after they recorded evidence of these activities. The speaker asserts a broader possibility: there exists a very real world in which they did none of that—where they would still be online today as an independent influencer while privately secretly acting on behalf of Canadian intelligence agencies—because they were made to believe they would go to jail. They emphasize that they are not the only person affected by this dynamic, suggesting a wider pattern or network behind these experiences.
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Speaker 0: I have made so many jokes over the years about federal agents reading my chats, and suddenly none of them were funny anymore for a while. And they pressured me to work for them for months, and they left no paper trail. Trail. They were very deliberate about that. Every time they came to my door, they would have me shut off my phone and told me you cannot tell a soul about what is going on. The only reason I can talk about this today is because I made a very deliberate decision that I was terrified to do. I was sweating, almost puking, and I clipped a DJI mic to my bra before every time they came to my house, terrified that it was going to beep or go off at some point when they were talking to me. And then I later confronted the parliament about these surveillance and pressure campaigns against me after recording evidence of them. There is a very real world in which I did none of that, in which you'd still see me online today as an independent influencer while privately secretly acting on behalf of Canadian intelligence agencies because they truly made me believe I was going to go to jail. And I guarantee you, I am not the only one.
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